It's an "I feel your pain" sort of campaign.
Where'd he learn that from?

Kerry is a turd. But if we keep hammering on him now, will we have any steam left when people start paying attention to the campaigns?

John F---king Kerry, political whore 'til the day he dies. To borrow a phrase from you Charles: Let's give him the Presidency!

"Provocative", "counterproductive", "legitimate."

They all mean about the same thing, right?

#2 Thom

But if we keep hammering on him now, will we have any steam left when people start paying attention to the campaigns?

Unless Kerry's managers keep him away from, well, people, there will probably be more than enough material :-)

Why bring up things the man said to smear him? It's something he said four months ago! He was young(er) and it was caused by the times he was living in. Let's move on, shall we?

/confused

For entertainment purposes only, I had a take on the Israeli wall a couple of weeks ago.

Wow. Kerry said one thing and then backtracked and said something different. This must be a new thing for him. I'm shocked I tell you, shocked.

Sorry for the early OT, but

Hezbollah is paying bonuses for each person Palestinian suicide bombers kill, the head of Israel's parliamentary defense and foreign affairs committee said Tuesday

Now remember, don't say anything hateful towards Hiz b'Allah. You wouldn't want people to think we are hateful towards them.

#5 Colt

Oh, there's plenty of material, but people have this distressing habit of settling into "oh-this-is-old-news-let's-get-over-it" syndrome.

I REALLY, REALLY want to believe he's got a multiple-personality disorder - at least it's treatable. Extreme lack of character is far more destructive and harder to change.

Kerry is smart, humble, and not afraid to tell others what they want to hear.In other words he is the consummate politician.Lets hope he rescues the US (and by default the world) from Bush and his oil-worshipping cronies..

Remember "the leaked memo" from October?

"Are we capturing, killing, or deterring and dissuading more terrorists every day than the madrassahs and the radical clerics are recruiting, training, and deploying against us?" asked Donald Rumsfeld.

Well, here is an example of a college newspaper's idea of working this memo into an anti-Bush editorial, blaming terrorism on Bush, and dropping all references to Muslims:

"How embarrassing it must have been for the Bush administration to have Donald Rumsfeld speculate that our occupation might be more creating terrorists than killing them."

Too much "Gainesville Green" for the Alligator editors?

I've sent letters to the editor at letters@alligator.org, and they have not responded to any of the seven I know they've received.

Just venting...

If there was a "but" at the end of the second quote followed by "Israel has the right defend itself from the terror attacks from militants" Then yes they would have something in common. Kerry is a fuck wit crowed pleaser but he will still probably get the Jewish vote this election.

Being a Skitzo is a definate advanatge in the back-stabbing world of politics.You can always catch the opponent off-balance.

In fact I really think Kerry and Blair will hit it off au naturalunlike the staged, creepy bum-chum-like relationship currently going on between the White House and 10 Downing Street.Get a grip, vote Kerry so you can be led by a real man-Tony Gilbert Blair.

Frank J. #7,

That was the best parody I've read in quite a while! Congrats! I hope that becomes one of your "best of" posts.

But Frank J, who would win in a fight between the fence and Aquaman?

(Proud that one of her letters made Ask Frank)

Kerry used these words...we have to talk about the ROOT CAUSE of the ME situation...ROOT CAUSE is code for ITS THE JOOOS FAULT. Its Code for TWO PEOPLES in the ONE Land..and that ISNT the truth. The Land of the Palistianians was Jordan. When they couldnt get ahold of that, with the help of the World...they went after a piece of Israel..hoping to get a foot hold and go on to taking ALL of Israel. They have said it OUTLOUD over and over again..

Once you use that particular phrase, ie ROOT CAUSE we know what you are all about..THE END..and the end for Kerry for me the minute he slippped up. Believe me he knows he slipped and he is figuring out how to spin it the OTHER way now. We pay attench to whats said when it isnt prepaared..We pay attench..to whats said in a moment of anger..Thats when you REALLY hear what people think and beliieve.

If you are new to this situation...only focused on it since 09/11 you many not know all the Code Speek and the GAMES...but we do, those who have been really focused on it for 30 or so years. There are people alive that go back further that that in their knowledge. IM new to the situation comparitively.

It looks like we are being Mobyed again.

What can I say...

...The guy is a professional politician, WHO by the way served in Viet Nam...on a short tour.

I wonder how big the walls are around the Heinz Mansion these days?

I always found it rather funny the the last name of the president of the Arab American Institue is "ZOGby". Isn't ZOG the short form of "Zionist Occupational Government", you know, our organized, behind-the-scenes effort to control the world? If I were James, I might be thinking about changing my name, lest I be accused of being of them there iniquitous Hebes.

Slightly OT, but still regarding the Junior Senator from Massachussets:

He (Kerry) laid out specific guidelines for companies wanting to send jobs overseas, including at least three months' advance notice for affected employees as well as notification of the Labor Department, state agencies and local government officials.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u =/nm/20040225/pl_nm/campaign_kerry_dc

This is typical Democrazy tactics...mandate some silly rule that doesn't legally prevent something that one couldn't outlaw anyway, like hiring subcontractors. Probably useless. Hard to put into action. Doesn't actually affect the end result.

But does allow him to say, "I have a plan to keep jobs here." The fact that his plan is not worth the powder to blow it to hell is immaterial. It is a news-bite for the evening news to run and for him to say, "Now Mr. Bush, what is your plan??

Right. What the hell is "sending a job overseas" mean? If I am HP and I own a frigging factory in Singapore, does that mean each time I want a widget designed I have to give the government notice? If I need some software written and the low bid comes from Ukraine, what business is it of my mayor?

Idiocy passing passing as policy.

#8 RWC- - "Sorry for the early OT, but

Hezbollah is paying bonuses for each person Palestinian suicide bombers kill, the head of Israel's parliamentary defense and foreign affairs committee said Tuesday"

I expect the DNC response, probably to be ennunciated by Washington State's own Patty ("Osama Mama") Murray, to run along the following lines:

"While we can all agree to disagree about the appropriateness of the tactics employed by militant organizations, at least Hezbollah is willing to pay a respectable minimum wage and, unlike the Bush Administration, is not exporting their jobs."

Hanoi John at it again, huh?

The guy is your typical two faced, lying liberal/dimocrat. "What day is it?" "What blatant lies for soundbites did they write for me to perform today?"

The leftists are so incensed about a decent man being president that they'd sacrifice their own children to get ANYONE else elected. Of course their "fellow liberal" would be willing to do the same.

Geez, sounds like palestinean islamofacists doesn't it?

Kerry's always played both side of the fence.

"Thank you for contacting me to express your opposition ... to the early use of military force by the US against Iraq. I share your concerns. On January 11, I voted in favor of a resolution that would have insisted that economic sanctions be given more time to work and against a resolution giving the president the immediate authority to go to war.

--letter from Senator John Kerry to Wallace Carter of Newton Centre, Massachusetts, dated January 22 [1991]

"Thank you very much for contacting me to express your support for the actions of President Bush in response to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. From the outset of the invasion, I have strongly and unequivocally supported President Bush's response to the crisis and the policy goals he has established with our military deployment in the Persian Gulf."

--Senator Kerry to Wallace Carter, January 31 [1991]

Oops, looks like Kerry got Wallace Carter's name in both the pro and anti mailing lists. Talk about being two faced. But Kerry gets bonus points for talking out of both sides of his mouth, at the same time.

Same Senator, Same Constituent - different day:
(hat tip: abu-Hoo-Hoo)

Perhaps I'm misreading Kerry's statements but they seem consistant to me. He thinks the Fence is a good idea but does not agree with its course (cutting deep into Palestinian territory).

One could argue that it is the course that makes the fence more effective but that's tactical, not political.

As Bush and Condi entered his office, Arafat started cleaning his Nobel Peace Prize with a baby wipe. "Wow!" Bush exclaimed, "That's a prestigious award you have there!" "It was prestigious," Arafat uttered, "until they gave one to Carter."

That's Gold, Frank J.!

You could say they aren't contradictory. In the earlier quote, he is condemning the placement of the fence, but I view it as telling the audience what they want to hear.

As I posted yesterday, he seems to say what is easy to say at that time to the group he is talking to.

A leader will say what he believes no matter how unpopular it is. I don't see John Kerry leading with long range vision. If I can quote George W..."I will not take a poll to decide on where to vacation." Nor will he take a poll on what the mid-east policy should be this month.

Not So OT

Go and read Wretchards latest entry at
[Link: www.belmontclub.com...]

Awesome and frightening.

I can see right through that two faced idiot even though I can't even stand looking at him.

Yet, on the other side our guy GW promised to give the go ahead to move the American Embassy to Jerusalem and well...hmmm.
Seems like that is the election promise du jur when these guys are making the run to the white house. Gee, if we Jews had all the power they say we do, I wonder why this long lived promise never comes to fruition ; - )). Also, seeing we Jews are a small voting minority, I am confused as to why (other than votes) they even allude to it.

For those of us who believe it will happen some day we should conduct a poll as to what year this very brave and righteous decision will be set in stone. (Jerusalem stone, of course!)

@28 John Gibbon

Hell, that wasn't even a short tour! It wasn't hardly noticable as a vacation for rich gigilo.
He sure as hell didn't see over 180 days of firefighting!

Steve Rabinowitz, a Democratic strategist in Washington, said he sees no contradiction.
"Kerry's position is no different from Bush's,"

And what does this say about Bush?

Can somebody enlighten me as to the connection between this Zogby, the Zogby pollster and the Zogby blog? Are all or some of these Zogbies the same person?

Kerry is very different from Bush. There will be no Don Rumsfeld in a Kerry adminstration, only the Euroweenies and Lawrence of Arabia wannabes from the State Department, plus the Dennis Rosses of the world (i.e. thesame people who brought you Arafat and the Intifada).

It makes a big difference.

Kerry can kiss my patootie! G.D. hypocrite.

I really needed to tell that to someone today.

Kerry is "His own worst critic"???

Who'da thunk it?

Oh wait, most of us with fully functional brains had that a long time ago.

Luddite (#33),

They're brothers.

Don't know who publishes the Zogby blog.

Luddite

Can somebody enlighten me as to the connection between this Zogby, the Zogby pollster and the Zogby blog? Are all or some of these Zogbies the same person

Yup. Zogby's very prolific. He's even got a TV program which apparently airs in the middle of the night on some obscure public access channel in the US but is shown non-stop on Jordanian TV

#35 -- DC Law -- "Kerry is very different from Bush. There will be no Don Rumsfeld in a Kerry adminstration, only the Euroweenies and Lawrence of Arabia wannabes from the State Department, plus the Dennis Rosses of the world (i.e. thesame people who brought you Arafat and the Intifada).

It makes a big difference."

All of that is, of course, true. But then think of the upside, Kerry has promised the Iranian Mullahs that he will bring the US back to "the community of nations".

Pathetic, isn' it?

#33 Luddite

I know that the pollster and Arab activist Zogbys are brothers. Not sure about the blogger.

I don't understand why Zogby is getting so much coverage, and why their polling company is being used.

They seem to be advocates and seems like there is a conflict of interest somewhere.

Both brothers

29 quark2

who is Wretchard

I think he is fabuloso

#35 -- DC Law

Kerry is very different from Bush. There will be no Don Rumsfeld in a Kerry adminstration, only the Euroweenies and Lawrence of Arabia wannabes from the State Department, plus the Dennis Rosses of the world (i.e. thesame people who brought you Arafat and the Intifada).

Kerry has also said he would appoint Clinton or [gasp] Carter as his ME Grand High Exaulted Mystic Ruler.

oh wait, nevermind. There's John Zogby, who's the pollster. And James Zogby, who has a TV program and is a pro-Palestinian activist.

Stop Hillary - Pathetic is right. When he says the "community of nations" (e.g. Cuba, Iran, France, Belgium, Saudi Arabia) all that comes to mind is some horrific social disease.

Brklyn Birny - that's just the point. Kerry, per se, may not be all that different from Bush. But the people Kerry will appoint are far different, and it is these appointees who can, and will, cause terrible harm. Don't forget, the Clintonistas, including Dennis Ross, Martin Indyk, and their enablers in Israel, resurrected Arafat. Dead babies have been the result.

#26 ruprecht, #28 dave--

Right and right. You can harmonize the two statements by saying that Kerry supports a security fence in light of the PA's failure to rein in terror (or, if he had the guts, in light of the PA's terror campaign carried out with international sanction), but that Israel's failure to route the fence largely along the Green Line is improper, counterproductive, unnecessarily provocative, a war crime, etc. You can debat the merits of such a position, but it is coherent, and in fact it is a position supported by many observers.

But the fact is that Kerry does give this full answer; he only says the part of it that is most likely to be well-received by his audience at any given time. His different answers do not contradict each other, but they do conflict with each other, because each is silent on a point where the other is specific. Kerry does not lead; he panders. He instills no confidence whatsoever.

On the other hand, Kerry's opponent has decided to turn aside for a moment from his project to refashion the Arab world by introducing freedom, representative government, and individual rights, while limiting clerical authority. Kerry's opponent has decided that now is the ideal time to back a campaign to insert an element of Protestant religious doctrine into the United States Constitution.

Why would a serious wartime leader divide his country over an issue such as this at a time when unity of purpose is so important? And effectively violate a campaign pledge in doing so? (The Bush campaign never disavowed candidate Cheney's position that the gay marriage issue should be taken up state-by-state.) And how will a Muslim world that is already suspicious of Bush's motives (and that's putting it mildly) view a Presidential initiative to include a ban on polygamy in the U.S. Constitution?

Looks like it's gonna be another lesser of two weevils election.

if you haven't read this gem yet, do:

A Tale of Two Fences

The I's and the P's have been at war for over half a century. Over the past several years the level of suspicion, hostility and paranoia between the two has been unprecedented. I has been the target of a terror campaign by Islamic terrorists who infiltrated its territory and conducted horrific attacks against both soldiers and innocent civilians. I accuses P of training and arming these militants and not lifting a finger to stop them. After a long series of failed attempts to reach a peace deal or even a temporary cease fire, the government of I decided it must erect a fence as a security barrier separating it from P. I's fence project infuriates the P's. Their uniformed leader called the government of I to immediately halt the construction. But despite strong international pressure I does not seem to bend and its white haired prime minister recently called to expedite the project and finish the fence by the end of 2004.

If you thought the above 160 words describe the controversial fence currently being erected in the West Bank between Israel and the Palestinians you are in good company. Look again. I is not Israel and P is not Palestine. The story above describes another fence, three time zones away from the Middle East in the disputed area of Kashmir between India and Pakistan. Indeed, since Pakistani militants tried to storm the Indian Parliament in December 2001, India has embarked on an ambitious project aimed to seal its border with its enemy. The fence is only part of a multi-tiered system that includes mines, sensors, trenches and, in some parts, a high mud wall.

Now, ask yourself why you associated the above story with the Middle East and not with South Asia. Why does the action of a nation of six million people loom larger in your consciousness than that of one billion people? After all, the India-Pakistan conflict is just as enduring and fierce. It threatens world peace no less than the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. The Indian fence is at least twice as long as the Israeli. It too creates facts on the ground unilaterally; it too entails land grabs and separation of innocent farmers from their land.

Read the rest of this piece here (hattip, the volokh conspiracy)

The Avalon Project of Yale University lists documents in law, history and diplomacy in a searchable data base going back centuries.

Today my attention was directed to the Hamas Covenant of 1988. Read and contemplate
the insights into the propaganda and goals of the Islamist movement. I hope it will be circulated widely to illustrate both the chilling mindset and
stated intent of Israel's enemies, and by extension toward those of all non-Muslim countries.

It is located here: Hamas Charter

What IS the problem? It's okay to lie to the Kuffirs, so talking out of both sides of your mouth is SOP for the ROP.

All this discussion abouts Kerrys "flip flops" and now a "Stunning Back Flip" is more than a little bit offensive. I mean, here is a pathetic politician who doesn't even know how to fall on his ass properly (yes I know he's been practicing a lot lately) and all of a sudden he's being built up like he's some kind of circus performer. The next thing you know, the press is going to say that he can defy the laws of gravity while twisting in the wind. This Kerry guy does not have the skills to make the first team of dwarf acrobats in a second rate sideshow and is sure to tumble if he ever does does make it into the big meet.

More Kerry gymnastics

Recently John Kerry indicated that he would solve the Arab-Israeli conflict by appointing either Jimmy Carter, James Baker or BJ Clinton to a position as special envoy. Needless to say that many in the pro-Israel community were aghast at the first two suggestions. So Kerry blamed the insertion of those names into the list on a "staffer."

Follow the link. You will not believe how this one ends. Let's just say. Kerry LIED!!!

What are the chances of this cartoon characters chance of beating Bush? Anybody here know the odds?

#25 Geepers - great post. Really. and a "tip" of the hat to good ole abu hoo hoo, too!

realwest (#53),

Thanks. Kerry is creepy in how easily he lies. Calm, forthright, total bullshit. He's trouble.

J. Litchy (#52),

So Kerry blamed the insertion... on a "staffer."

Ah, so that's what they're calling interns now.

#54 Geepers - ah,so that's what they're calling interns now. LOL!!!
He is trouble but only because he's mastered the art of the true politician : tell 'em what they want to hear, without showing any sort of conscience or independent thinking at all.

Luddite: Both come from an Arab Christian Family. I think the Pollster is John and the Lobbiest is James..but not sure..They are NOT members of the Islamic Religion..last I heard. They seem to be more interested in ETHNIC Identity than Religious Identity..but then James *uses his Religion when and where he can to find commonality with citizens here. Loves to do that..Lots of divide and conquor. BOTH never met a Terrorist that they didnt defend... THATS where you can here "Root Cause" used alot..stolen from the African America Civil Rights Movement..as is "Flying While Arab"...

They are Brothers. James is THE prime Lobbiest for the ISLAMIC World. He spends day and night in with the most powerful in DC and around the world..trashing Israel and Jews. He is part of an ENTIRE Family it seems that make their living in the area of Lobbying for Islam. Theres a Charles also. Then are the next generation. They are in all sorts of allied businesses..Security Analyist. Stuff like that.

It was James..that coined or stole the phrase"Flying While Arab". This is what he was doing BEFORE 9/11. He was constantly at the State Dept..having PRIVATE under the radar meetings to see about overturning the scruitiny that Arab Citizens recieved at Airports. Was he effective? Did he threaten Airlines with Legal Action if they didnt stop "profiling"? And did the Airlines themselves STOP or cut down on the profiling..especially when they got calls from Zogbys friends at the State Dept? Yes, Yes, Yes, and Yes. Could you say Zogby prepared the way for 9/11? He might not have known about it..but what he did SURE HELPED. Where is the investigation on who met with James..how many times and what happened because of these secret meetings? He isnt just some SCHLUB with a little TV Cable Show. Get that out of your mind quick...

They run in the Diplomatic/State Dept/MilitaryDepts/Spook /Lobbiest/MegaBiz/some Media circles in Washington. This is a world unto themselves. Each separate but they form allied biz and SOCIAL groups..Some of their children go to school together, live in certain neighborhoods together, go to Church together, go to 5 or 6 of the same Hairdressers, go to 5 or 6 of the same Specialty Stores for Clothes. some in the same Country Clubs..and on and on. IF you are a certain "element" (Jews are the element not wanted--that is unless you are Pro Pal)you have NO chance to really join with them...Even IF you are part of one of these separate groups. If a Jew is Pro Pal..you are sort of on the outside of the circle..with maybe your little toe inside the line..FOR A WHILE.

Jews took notice when Zogby when into the "polling" biz.
We know who he is, what he believes, (he has spoken out before and even NOW)..We know he will watch it..for a long while and then try to "manipulate" when no one is looking..But we will always be looking.

Trashing Israel and Ameria as well...IS the Family Biz..several generations of the Zogbys.

James is supposedly a Democrat and just was handed a seat at the upper table..John..well hes a Repub. and same thing..they handed HIM a seat at the table..Both of them didnt work for it like OTHER PEOPLE do. They both have alot of power withing their respective parties. You have to get past them for BOTH the National Parties ...when you are formulating ME policy for your Party. THATS POWER..that these two didnt even work for... Aint it so convenient that one is a Dem..and one is a Repub?

I want to praise President Bush for backing the marriage Amendment to the Constitution. It is not strictly Christiani beliefs that marriage is ONLY between a man and woman. It is in society's best interest to uphold and defend the institution that is best for raising children.

Jamuka (#52)

What are the chances of this cartoon characters chance of beating Bush? Anybody here know the odds?

You may find this interesting.
[Link: www.businessreport.co.za...]

thoughts?

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RAMALLAH, West Bank (Reuters) - The Palestinian central bank chief accused
Israel on Thursday of armed robbery after Israeli troops seized over $8
million from banks in the West Bank city of Ramallah.

Israeli security forces said Wednesday's raids on three banks in Palestinian
President Yasser Arafat's headquarters city aimed to empty accounts used by
Palestinian militant factions to fund suicide bombings and other attacks on
Israelis.

"(This is) baseless and untrue," Amin Haddad, head of the Palestinian
Monetary Authority, said in an interview.

"What happened yesterday was a blunt, unjustified ungrounded daylight theft
at gunpoint by the Israeli army from two Jordanian banks operating in
Palestine, as well as the Arab Bank and the Cairo-Amman Bank," he said,
speaking in English.

Local newspapers quoted Palestinian Finance Minister Salam Fayyad, whose
efforts to reform murky Palestinian finances have won Western praise, as
saying the raid was another serious blow to a Palestinian economy crippled by
Israeli army crackdowns.

The Palestine Monetary Authority oversees banking in the West Bank and Gaza
Strip, where Palestinians are in conflict with Israel in their quest for an
independent state.

Haddad said Israeli forces singled out 400 institutional, charity and
individual accounts, commandeering vaults, counting out money and putting
what they wanted into bags for removal. A number of larger accounts were
cleaned out, he said.