Disgusting behavior. I wonder if Krugman's "stalker", Donald Luskin, will have anything to say about this? Not to mention there's a group of bloggers that do a Krugman-watch.

Um... yeah. So basically Frank J of IMAO.US could get dragged in by the FBI at any time?

A good waste of the FBI's time. Disgusting. I hope everything works out zee.

IronFist, I do hope you forget the sarcasm tag there...

And as Glenn would say: More crushing of Dissent in John Ashcroft's Amerika...

The Krugman Truth Squad.

The problem is not the FBI, it's Krugman. Krugman clearly feels more influential than he is. Anyone know what his economic credentials are? Funny story, I got my degree in economics from the plain old California State University system, my younger brother (total el cubo, BTW) got his degree in economics from Princeton. So I try to talk shop with him, nuts and bolts stuff about econ, and he has no idea about what I'm talking. This was around 1990 when supply-side was all the rage and he had no clue what it was. I asked what kind of cirriculum they had and he went on to give me a littany of couses like "The Economics of Women", "The Economics of the Underprivilidged", and "Healthcare Economics" (whereby they designed national healthcare plans as class projects), etc. Poor kid brother couldn't even read a graph.

Effective immediately, Paul Krugman has been added to my list of pilchards & planks. He joins the ranks with Rosie O'Donnell, Michael Kinsley, and Michael Moore. Many more to come, list started today.

The Real Travis-if that wasn't so sad I'd laugh. That's what they taught him at Princeton? Jeez.

FH

I don't think this has anything to do with the supposed jack booted thugs of "Adolf Ashcroft".

More than likely, this is a case of a whiney self-important jackass who feels that he is above the hoi-poloi (how the hell do you spell that?) of society. And as such, reports every nasty letter the the Fibbies because he feels persecuted.

The Feds have to follow up to cover their own asses. If they didn't, Krugman would whine and seethe about it publically.

hoi polloi. Also, hoi means the. So no need for the the.

Yo Krugman - FOAD.

This guy makes me angry. He is using up valuable resources for his own whinging and crappy illusions. Who cares about how he feels? Not me. I can't remember if he's one the ones I've written ugly letters too. I'll have to check.
I have updated M, that we may have a visit too.

Un-flipping beleiveable that our precious law enforcement resources have been wasted like this. I think every one of us should fire off our own letters -- and not only that -- force this into the public eye to show what a pathetic, wimpering puddle PK is. (If zee's cool with it, of course). This is the power of blogging -- 5 yrs. ago, how many people would have known about such an incident? Now, we might "make some lemonade" -- and the fact that's it at his expense is of course a happy bonus!

#14 quark2-girl, you trying to kill him?!
I'm kidding :-)

Heh, thanks evariste.

While you are at it, what is that? Latin? Greek?

OT

Tomorrow, I have a meeting with the biggest (prospective) client my company has ever had. I am even going to wear a damned sport jacket and tie (with blue jeans, of course).

This morning, I woke up to find a freakin' zit the size of Uranus (or Myanus, if you will) on the tip of my proboscis. I am 37 and have never had a problem with acne.

I prayed 5 times to the omnipotent one, Allah 5 times today and the damned stop-light still shines. Maybe I should have hit his paypal button??

I can just see it tomorrow at 9 AM:

"Hi. I am Mr. Smith with XYZ Company. Nice to meet you."

"Hi, my name is Jeff, but just call me Rudolph."

I prayed 5 times to the omnipotent one, Allah 5 times today

Actually, I only prayed 5 times.

Maybe 25 would have worked??

RightIsRight-LOL!! I rarely get zits, but it always seems like they pick embarrassing occasions to appear. I always wonder if I should pop it and risk having an obvious zit wound, or leave it alone and have pus on my face all day. I usually go for popping it, and hang the consequences! Don't take my advice though.
I'm pretty sure it's Greek.

Oh my gosh. I've gone from lurker to a thread.

I have to have to get to the airport. For Once a flight from Chicago is actually coming in early. So I have to, really have to hit the road

But, this is the second time this has happened to me. I posted about it way back in here somewhere and if this conversation is pertinent when i get back from this run I'll link it.

That time it was a high up Muslim around here who stopped the production of a play in Playhouse in the park. He had the police call me and that time it was going to be "confiscation of my computer" on an ethnic intimidation charge.
I must write nasty letters, and i do, and it is immature but, god i get so pissed...
i have to hit the road, but is there a way to poll to see who else has had this type of intimidation...it would be interesting to see.

zee-would love to read your other story, please be sure to post it when you get back from the airport! If you have the time.

#17 RightisRight:

You know what you have to do in the morning:

-Walgreen's
-Makeup aisle
-Coverup stick in your shade.

What the hell, buy a Chunky or Snickers to keep it company.

That's your mission, trooper.

John Wayne voice off//

#17 {RightIsRight]: It's Greek.

andthenblammo!-you're a smart man. RiR, you know they usually have some chick standing there looking useless at the makeup counter at Walgreens, I'm sure you could conscript her to beautify your hideous visage!

Hoi polloi is Greek. (evariste, you are a person of many talents.)

RightIsRight-- zits on the face can sometimes develop in people over 30-- stress seems to make the bacteria that cause zits multiply faster. Have you tried holding a washcloth soaked in hot water on the spot? Sometimes moist heat will cause the zit to soften and open up on its own. Good luck!

LOL

Thanks for all the info.

I think I am just going to chop the end of my nose off and cover it with a band-aid.

Actually, I am not really worried about it. I will make some off handed remark pertaining to its majesty early on in the meeting.

That way, Mr. Smith won't feel like Austin Powers staring at Fred Savage's mole in Goldmember.

"Hi! Oh, that. It's a bud. I'm sprouting another me. I think I'll name him Spuds."

I wish I had thought of that in high school, I went through 3 woodburning tools and a belt sander working on my complexion.

Let's see, we started off talking about Paul Krugman, then a zit, so we really didn't veer off topic.

Go ahead, sic the Hoovers on me, make my day!

@16 evariste

Nah, he's copacetic with the news. :)
I'll have to be sure he's taken his prozac daily though. *lol

Zee - I'm glad you're OK.

How dare you criticize the great Krugman, former high-priced Enron consultant and confidant of antisemitic dictators. While Krugman can attack his enemies in the ugliest manner, you are a nobody and you should keep your mouth shut.

/sarcasm off

zee,

Keep writing those letters. The world needs more people like you.

Boy, this thread is all over the place! *lol

Zee must be really profficient at raising letter recievers dander. *lol
Maybe she should start a letter writing business, for those who are not so profficient or talented. :)

She's right, she ain't no lurker no more.

I hope she prints the letter on her website. I bet I could learn some new invective.

#8 The Real Travis

Krugman got his PhD from MIT in 1977, and his aesthetically pleasing website is here.

An interesting letter showing how a constructive debate with him is virtually impossible (written by one of his former classmates) is here.

#8 The Real Travis

I didn't study economics, but I have had very similar experiences with people who got Ivy League degrees. One had to do with someone who had actually taken undergraduate courses in statistics but understood neither the most basic laws of probability (even as expressed in the chances of turning up a particular card in poker or bridge) nor the notion of the coefficient of causation (you know, from 0 for no relation to 1 for a perfect correspondence). Another was with a couple of computer science graduates who couldn't program their way out of a paper bag in any programming language or even just DOS command lines. Many prestige universities, at least outside the hard sciences, have become something like Japanese universities; very selective about admission so that almost everyone allowed in is smart, but once you're in you might not learn anything much afterward. The state universities are often a mirror image; they let in just about everyone who asks, but then flunk many or even most of them out. It's a bizarre development.

For some reason I this thread reminds me of a conversation I had with my 6 y/o nephew who, upon discovering a Seal CD in my wife's car, stated "Boy, he musta really had zits bad when he was a kid." Seal and Tom Kite, the very odd-looking golfer, are the only very rich guys I actually feel sorry for.

Another case of a low-grade celebrity goin' "help, help, I'm bein' repressed!" Nowhere in federal law does it state that a person has the inherent right to be free of criticism. That sorta sh*t doesn't tend to go well with freedom of speech. Where or not it'd be the smart thing to do, the common sense thing to do would be for the FBI to tell Krugman that if he can't stand the heat, get outta the kitchen. And their time is supposed to be reserved for actual threats, not angry letters.

#35 Alyosha:

That is a seriously lame website, and it looks like it is almost as out of date as Krugman is. I do know high school kids that do better work.

#36 CJ

I agree. I took some econ/business classes at MIT, and one of them was on options pricing. On the first day of class, it was standing room only. Near the end of the semester, there was plenty of seating. The only people left were the engineers - the economics and business majors bailed because of the math. In fact, sometimes the engineers had to correct the professors on their math (and I'm not talking minus sign errors).

At another well-known university, a friend of mine was taking a statistics course on experimental design and analysis. He said that the psychology and sociology students had no clue on what to do (couldn't calculate a standard deviation). These were graduate students at a school with a top ranking psychology department. Kind of makes you wonder where you hear on the news "A new psychology study came out today saying ... "

You are right about the state schools. I remember taking a numerical methods class at the University of Minnesota where 25% of the class failed and an organic chemistry class where almost two thirds of the class flunked the first exam. I also remember hearing about a chemical engineering class where about 20-25% of the senior class was told to come back the next year and retake a required course. Ouch!

#38 Targetpractice and all others - why is the FBI involved in this? I mean, ok Zee sent something though the mail (federal territory) but why the FBI and not the postal police (STOP LAUGHING, there is a law enforcement organzation called the US Postal Police).
I don't know Paul Krugman, but I know his kind. You know, if people disagree with me, even vehemently, it really doesn't bother me - I just sort of figure that they don't understand what I'm saying, cause what I say is always correct, right?(I made myself LOL with that one!); and even if Zee perhaps said something, er, threatening, he calls the fucking FBI? Instead of dealing with it himself? What a maroon.
I AM however asking the question why the FBI seriously - does anyone know?

#38 Targetpractice and all others - why is the FBI involved in this? I mean, ok Zee sent something though the mail (federal territory) but why the FBI and not the postal police (STOP LAUGHING, there is a law enforcement organzation called the US Postal Police).
I don't know Paul Krugman, but I know his kind. You know, if people disagree with me, even vehemently, it really doesn't bother me - I just sort of figure that they don't understand what I'm saying, cause what I say is always correct, right?(I made myself LOL with that one!); and even if Zee perhaps said something, er, threatening, he calls the fucking FBI? Instead of dealing with it himself? What a maroon.
I AM however asking the question why the FBI seriously - does anyone know?

Hey WTF? I didn't mean to post twice - even though I'm envious of those top 100 posters charles listed on another thread).
That's the first time I've ever posted and didn't have the comment removed from my "comments" screen.
Jeez, it wouldn't be so bad if it was a more intelligent or humorous post.

Why dont all us LGFer's start flooding a**hole Krugman's email with nasty, though non-threatening emails.

Sheesh! I wrote to Krugman a while back and called him (redundantly) a dhimmi, a collaborator, and a terrorist appeaser. There was no response at all. Perhaps he took these things as compliments.
That doesn't explain his non-reaction to "Quisling" "liar" "true son of Joseph Goebbels" or "pompous braying ass."

Shiplord Kirel (#45)

zee wrote to him in October, I believe. Did you write more than 4 months ago?

Krugman's complaint doesn't seem to have been a particularly high priority for the FBI.

They called my son after 9/11 because he was working at a flight school and taking lessons, and there had been a Saudi student who suddenly pulled out his money and left in August.

There are no wells of contempt this side of the Inferno deep enough to express what i think of Krugman's mathematics, economics, or personality, so i won't.

However, for those of you having complexion problems, have you tried the egg yolk treatment?
Before you go to bed, rub your face with one fresh raw egg yolk, and let it set for 10 minutes. Wash it off and go to bed. Repeat for 4-5 days and even very stubborn pimples/zits/acne will soften if not go away.

/OT silliness

dave

zee

I must write nasty letters

Either that and/or you are dealing with particularly sensitive individuals.

I must write really nasty letters

If it they're anything like this:

Maybe because they know that Gibson isn’t going to be blowing up their children in malls and on buses if he gets pissed off. How very brave.

. Then, yes. You must.

Not that I think the FBI need to waste time in such a way. But, after reading some of the writings on that site, I must concur that you must write really nasty letters. Flame away.

Seperated at Birth?

Anton Lavey

Paul Krugman

#42 realwest

why is the FBI involved in this?

Because the F**king Bureaucratic Idiots are too d**ned stupid and lazy to get off their donut-filled backsides long enough to do some real police work, such as finding the members of their own Ten Most Wanted.

It's a lot easier and safer for those lazy good-for-nothing POS's to harass someone like zee than it is to hunt down assorted Islamozoids in America or Whitey Bulger, one of their informants.

Krugman has no class, and he is an idiot on matters political and economical.

I am not surprised at all. I expect the far left will use the jack-boot of government against those that do not agree with them. If you read [Link: www.frontpagemag.com...] on a regular basis you know whats been going on in schools and colleges.

Now its coming to the rest of America.

Krugman is just trying to improve his chances at the coveted Idiotarian of the Year. This would have been good enough to snatch IotM for February but for all the yapping about Bush and his ANG service. Watch out for Krugman. He's very competitive and will only try harder.

My letter is going to the NYT editor to ask them if they approve of using FBI time for these matters. I mean don't they have complaint counselors. Every school nowdays has grief counselors. Surely the NYT can spring for staff when some columnist has their feelings hurt by an especially cruel and insensitive piece of reader feedback. Come to think of it, for the amount of crap the NYT has been putting out, they should hire about six ego massagers to help sweep up all that shattered self esteem.

I know we've never been friendly, hell most of you hate me, but for once I'm not in much a combative mood. First off, I like Krugman's essays and opinions (not much surprize there!) but this is an abuse of FBI time and resources. I don't know enough about who is resposible, however (that is the extant of my Krugman apologia for the day.) I can identify with zee, as I have also been visited by the FBI over asinine issues, but I'd rather not go into details. Really what I'd like to address is the issue some posters have brought to bare over the difference between "good" colleges and public ones.

In my experience as a drop out of a "good" college and then later as a returning student to a state college I found the level of expectation between the two standards to be quite different. "Good" colleges had "gentleman C's", over-privledged faculity and students, and handed out degrees like Halloween candies to the sons and daughters of privledge. State college, on the other hand, wanted to produce people who would be active members of society and (gasp) the business community. If someone didn't show up to class, they lost points towards their grade. If someone didn't understand the material, they did'nt do well on tests and exams. At the "good" college, everyone was liberal and well funded. To express a conservative viewpoint was an anathema to the faculity and students were unnecessarily badgered if they didn't fall into line. There was no moraly objective standard as everyone was taught PoMo and etc. State college, however, was a place where robust debate occured from many different viewpoints and students learned skills and how to apply those skills within a intellectially diverse community. When my children are of college age I hope they attend a real college. A public college. A college where they won't skate through on my reputation, but on their own.

I realize my politics and outlook are miles away from the average LGF poster's, but on this level I'm with you. Schools should teach 'back to the basics' not moral relativity (I fully realize I'm accused of MR, but I do believe there are objective standards - the categorical imperative, for one). Let students figure out where they stand on their own, but give the tools they need to reach their conclusions.

I've been busy as hell, but I look forward to arguing with you some more.

That's "former Enron advisor Paul Krugman".

#51 Big Digger - loved your post, but I was serious - what the hell is their jurisdiction on this matter?
What can possibly justifiy taking their time away from more serious and significant matters?

#20 zee - check your e-mail.

I've never read anything of PK's but I've seen his photo and he looks separated at birth from all those useless academics who swan around universities poisoning the atmosphere and filling the heads of the young with gibberish.
They also drag out academic meetings so that nothing of consequence ever gets done. However, they do complain a lot about the custodial staff at these get togethers because the blackboards in their classrooms are not dusted off to their high specifications.
And they are paid vast sums for doing nothing. Did I forget to mention that they intimidate students who dare to challenge any of the nonsense they dish out as high octane cerebral stuff.
The Krugmans of academia used to make me wonder if Mao wasn't on to a good thing in the cultural revolution when he sent such types into the countryside to do some actual physical work.

Krugman must be bitter about losing the "Idiotarian of the Year" vote and, sensing the severe competition from Moore and Tonge, is really campaigning hard this time.

#45 - I'd close the blinds if I were you.

Oh, Zee - this feeling that you're writing letters from a good citizen's point of view and then get "the law" after you - I think I know how that must feel. Seeing destruction happening right in front of your eyes, reacting against it, and then only finding out that the situation is worse than you thought, they actually called and manipulate the law in a manner so that those seem to be working for them. I think a person cannot and may not be allowed to occupy a job in the public eye if he cannot handle criticism. What does he think he's doing anyway? Shutting people up that don't agree with him? Preventing them from completely legally uttering their opnions? In my eyes that's a serious form of terror. I can't plae myself in your shoes, and I won't pretend to know what I would do in a situation like that, but I hope that one day someone will take this man to court and make a fool out of him.

(PS - I'm not living in the US) - But I hate it when people use their power to scare others off.

It's true that zee was the victim of overzealous and misdirected FBI attention, and I applaud her ferocious patriotism - something I wish we were all guilty of.

But has anybody actually read her blog? This appeared in the second entry down today, written by Tom, in response to comments written by a Jew criticizing the Passion. Yes, this is out of context, but how much context is enough to ameliorate the following?

How does the number of Jews killed by Roman hands or how many times Jews were blamed for those deaths prove that “The Passion” is anti-Semitic?

It doesn't.

Finally we arrive at Jake’s crowning glory.

“Maybe the Jews put themselves into the gas chambers and ovens in Auschwitz too!”

Actually, they did. But how can I expect you to know anything about history when you can’t even put together one intelligent paragraph.

This is what frightens me - that otherwise compassionate and bright people - who ought to know better - lose themselves in their own passion when confronted with legitimate and civilly stated reservations about Mel Gibson's motives. "There they go again - the Holocaust was their own fault and now they're asking for it again!" Can you blame me for worrying that there's an undercurrent here that needs to be addressed?

I truly believe that the following sums up the current state of affairs vis-a-vis Christain vs. Muslim views of the Jews:

1492
Islam: Convert or die, infidel!
Christianity: Convert or die, infidel!

2004
Islam: Convert or die, infidel!
Christianity: May I ask you to take a look at this very interesting pamphlet, sir?

But when a POS Jew-baiter like Tom the Blogger on Spiced Sass is allowed to spew like that, I worry. Oh, yes, indeed, O do worry.

Wow. Here's more from Tom at Spiced Sass - just scroll down to his first comments on The Passion.

Jews having tantrums over "The Passion" only make it seem that there IS reason to blame them for Christ's death. I’ll even go so far as to say that they encourage anti-Semitism, not because of anything in the film, but because mainstream America is simply growing sick of hearing them scream. Just as we have sickened of the unending and unearned anger coming from our political Left, so we quickly tire of the same baseless hysteria from others, even those we otherwise admire and support.

I'm not sure these guys are my friends.

#54 aglossia

Good point.

I have posted on this entire issue here if anyone wishes to read it.

#34

I hope she prints the letter on her website. I bet I could learn some new invective.

I actually can't find the damn letter. I may have responded to a piece where contact was within the website. I'm going to keep looking. Yeah, invective is what you get if you get one of those letters. Which I'm going to stop writing out of respect to the FBI.

#41

why is the FBI involved in this? I mean, ok Zee sent something though the mail

I actually sent an email

#49

Not that I think the FBI need to waste time in such a way. But, after reading some of the writings on that site, I must concur that you must write really nasty letters. Flame away.

Actually the text you are referring to is (taken out of context) from Tom, Yankee Jihad, who guest writes on my site.
If you want to tackle something i actually wrote, feel free to do so. I am sure I go beyond most folk's tolerance for invective or belligerence. Perhaps, to be more effective, I need to calm down. However, that isn't who I am.

I note there are others who have pointed out Tom's posts on my site. I would never have invited him to write if he were anti-Semitic. He, like me, I'm thinking, writes with the assumption the reader knows his positions. I know he isn't anti-Semitic but I do realize that it might be inferred. I'll ask him to address that but I'm not going to censor his anger. Which is why I invited him to write. Because he loves this country, and like many of us, can be incautious as to how that is expressed.
For all of you who have been supportive, I am grateful.
I will gladly hear constructive criticism about the tone on my blog, but as far as being questionable...

# 62

But when a POS Jew-baiter like Tom the Blogger on Spiced Sass is allowed to spew like that, I worry. Oh, yes, indeed, O do worry.

I hope those who have drawn that conclusion will spend more time in the archives.

Okay then.

Politicians Write to 'West Wing' Character

Clinton, D-N.Y., and McHugh, R-N.Y., fired off a letter Thursday to Deputy White House Chief of Staff Joshua Lyman, the TV character played by Bradley Whitford.

"Dear Josh," begins the letter from Clinton and McHugh, who are real, to Lyman, who is not.

And next Clinton and McHugh are working on an appropriations bill to fund a Navy expedition to find and rescue the crew of the S.S. Minnow.

#65 zee:

I actually have spent quite a bit of time today going through your archives. I've seen the posts that take Islamofascists to task, and again, I applaud your zeal in defense of our country and I share your anger at those who haven't the courage to stand up for the right thing. I can't disagree with a single word you have written.

But I am desperately interested to know in what context the suggestion that Jews are responsible for the Holocaust - the Jews put themselves in the ovens and gas chambers - can be construed as anything but a thoughtless, ill-informed, knee-jerk ejaculation that comes from a self-victimizing neurotic who believes that Christians are more put-upon in the US than any other group.

And this:

Jews having tantrums over "The Passion" only make it seem that there IS reason to blame them for Christ's death. I’ll even go so far as to say that they encourage anti-Semitism, not because of anything in the film, but because mainstream America is simply growing sick of hearing them scream. Just as we have sickened of the unending and unearned anger coming from our political Left, so we quickly tire of the same baseless hysteria from others, even those we otherwise admire and support.

is simply hateful.

He is referring to Jews in general here. It's not out of context. He even goes so far as to point out that he's NOT talking just about "liberal" Jews. Criticism of Mel Gibson and his motives is not "baseless hysteria." Screaming about how Christians are under attack in America is. Telling Jews they cause anti-Semitism by raising their voices isn't even an original thought. It's just gutter-trash Jew-baiting, and I'd be interested to hear how you defend it.

#56 realwest

what the hell is their jurisdiction on this matter? What can possibly justifiy taking their time away from more serious and significant matters?

Thanks. Whenever I see the FBI mentioned, I lose it. My reasoning is from the book Black Mass by Dick Lehr and Gerard O'Neill.

Seriously, the only justification that I can think of is that zee sent her letter across state lines. This assumes that she and that waste of oxygen, Paul Krugman, live in different states. The Feds have traditionally limited themselves to interstate activities.

Obviously, this little episode suggests that Krugman will act to bring legal reprocussions on people criticizing him vehemently. That said, does anyone know whether its legal to make "compliments" or "affirmations" concerning Krugman? Comments such as "There is no public evidence whatsoever that Mr. Krugman likes to bugger little Malaysian boys." or "We don't know that Paul Krugman is hustling crack out of his office at Princeton." come to mind.

Krugman's is the classic response of a liberal to someone who dares to disagree. Bring in the totalitarian police who will then threaten, intimidate and worse. This is what Krugman does as a private citizen who makes a living writing dreck. Can you imagine what he'd be doing if he held a post in Hillary Clinton's administration? Just ask the Whitehouse Travel Office staff.

Liberals are hypocrites. Their systems for social order can only be enforced by fear and violence and they resort to those tools quickly and frequently. Krugman is clearly made of that stuff. The FBI is a praetorian guard for the elite. Think any of us could get the FBI to react that way, that quickly and that personally? Not that we should, but understand they wouldn't if we wanted it. You also just have to know that the FBI will include this little incident as a success when they publish statistics of terrorist threats they have dealt with.

That the FBI wasted it's time is shame, that Krugman ordered it up is a shame. The FBI can do squat to protect us from real murdering terrotists but won't hesitate to harrass Joe Six Pack. That the FBI lacks the common sense to know when their resources are being wasted is the most revealing and sad aspect of this affair. Krugman should have been told to stuff it.

Despite the pathetic rants of the left about Ashcroft=Hitler, the horrors of the Patriot Act, look who is the first to trot out the full might of the Federal Government to redress a mere insult?

#40 Alyosha:

I had a series 7 license for a prevous job and had to learn some basic options rules (including some pricing stuff) to pass the test. I had never taken a business course before and had only taken lower level econ courses and thought it was no big deal, but the business majors I knew from high ranking universities often had to take the test multiple times because of the options sections.

#44 Jim Brown. I'm with you there. Perhaps the bloggers could spend a month advertising a deluge of hundreds of vulgar yet non-threatening e-mails/snailmails/etc.

I think the FBI would roll it's eyes if the bastard tried to file a thousand different complaints (which, if I understand it right, would have to be done if he wanted each person to receive a personal visit from the FBI)

At one point or another, they would have to tell him to take a flying leap.

I think we can distill what I will call the "Krugman" rule for defining the difference between the left and the right.

"A leftist criticizing conservatives gets "fisked". A conservative criticizing a leftist gets "frisked".

Dread

You pathetic, self-righteous, gutless, ingnoramus, you're lack of historical knowledge is second in enormity only to your Christian hating arrogance.

You didn't even have the guts to confront me directly, you spineless bag of wind. In fact, you aren't really concerned at all about the content of what I said, or you'd have placed your comments beneath my post. Instead you hoped that the masses at LGF would huddle around your slobbering vituperation, so posted here, where you could feel nice and safe.

You can intimidate and brainwash Zee, but you I have a little more spine than that. Both posts have been moved to my own site, where they willl stay, unaltered, regardless of your self-important whining.

Tom,
This is absolutely amazing. Both your reprehensible conduct here and my stunning lack of judgment in allowing you to guest write on my blog. With this vile post you've made here, you have just made my day easier. I will now not waste my time in an attempt to refute the irresponsible statements and lies you expressed on my site with some reasoned conversations. I had thought that these type of conversations go on in "real" life - two "acquaintances" coming to heads over their individual stances regarding the Jews and Israel. I thought I could prevail upon the intelligence I had mistakenly assumed was available to you, to try to distinguish where your anger towards the Jews over this issue suggests something more menacing operative in your thinking. As one person has said, in the end, you may not be hateful but your words are.. however, since you stand by those words, I charge that you are, indeed, hateful.

I was going to attempt to handle this with diplomacy and with a mind to make a final request that you examine your premises . I was going to ask you to step outside the circle of your words and examine your hearing. I was going to suggest that, having never been a victim of the type of attacks the Jews have undergone for centuries, it is likely that you'd not be able to distinguish where some of your crass and insensitive treatment of Jewish reaction to the Passion is wrong and is , in essence anti-Semitic. Maybe you want to call your particular blend of bile and animosity something else, but, as i always have said, it's the fruit that counts. The fruit of your posts has been unanimous opprobrium. Not from stupid people and definitely from those who know a damn lot more about anti-Semitism than either you or me. But you'll not have the benefit of their wisdom now. I never had sufficient traffic to attract notice to either one of us and have not had the feedback that I have heard here and in email that has allowed me to see where your heart appears to be on this.

I fault myself for inviting you on board. I see that what I latched onto was your damn anger. Because anger is what this bloody fool , damn my contrary soul, so easily resonates with, I didn't dig deeper to see that, at least , in part, your anger derives with sentiments I can not abide. I felt uneasy when I saw that icon ( " If Jews are descended...")on your site but I erroneously concluded that it was stated in a way to have shock value, and to point out the idiocy of Arab calumnies against Jews. As usual, the first instincts that I frigging ignore were on the money. Now I see it is along the same vein as your having "less respect" for the Jews, given their ( some Jews, not all, like you stupidly infer) reception of the Gibson film.
What is absolutely ludicrous here, is now, all of a sudden I'm spineless and brainwashed. What happened to your ( uninvited) effusive praise for my intelligence and passion. Why in the world would you guest write for a sponge-brained coward? Is there perhaps something faulty in the way you assess people and words?
Could the fault possibly lie with you?
Don't bother with a response. My own idiocy in this has been sufficient punishment for today. Hearing from you again will be more than even I deserve.

To those on LGF, I apologize for the anti-Semitism that I allowed - through carelessness - not assent- to appear on my site for those of you who visited. I also apologize to "Dread Pirate" and "capitalist Blonde " who made me aware of my negligence and were gracious enough not to chew me up and spit me out. I can learn from you two on confrontational tactic, to be sure. And, I apologize to you, Charles. I know you get your share of unpleasant visitors, but I'm sorry to have added to the count.
I will post an apology on my site when I get back off the road.
I wish the hell I drank. I sure as hell need one now.