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1 godfrey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:05:07pm

Song of the Day: Big Rock Candy Mountain

Coming to you courtesy the Obama Administration.

2 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:05:11pm

Fresh thread! What a scent!

3 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:05:14pm

So, I got nothing.

4 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:05:22pm

Ah! Big Breath of Fresh Thread Air! Getting a little farty in there.

5 Broomer  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:05:36pm

What's the best way to send a message to Israel not to agree to a ceasefire until Gilad Shalit comes home?

6 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:06:14pm

re: #5 Broomer

What's the best way to send a message to Israel not to agree to a ceasefire until Gilad Shalit comes home?

Put a message in a Pizza?

7 filetandrelease  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:06:29pm

Please someone tell me Israel will not halt operations for 10 days!@!

If they do, I may go jihad.

8 godfrey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:06:34pm

Personally, I'm glad to see a name like "Lionel Chetwynd" on PJTV.

9 Confuzed  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:06:57pm

To: Hamas, Hamas Supporters, Muslims, CAIR, Moonbats
Cc: World
Subject: How would YOU feel?

How would you (Muslims) feel if 10% of the Infidel world tried our
very best to terrorize you and kill you? What if this were not only allowed
in our holy book, but a required religious duty?

Which Infidels would you trust if you knew the surest way for Infidels to get to heaven was to kill Muslims?

Which group of Infidels would you trust if male and female, young and old,
sick and healthy, even handicapped and pregnant Infidel women, tried and frequently succeeded killing as many Muslims as possible worldwide, whenever and wherever?

Mohammed Atta, the 9/11 leader of the 1st plane to hit the WTC was before 9/11, law-abiding, respectful, polite, and well-mannered.

If model citizens can turn on Infidels like the 19 hijackers did, please tell us which Muslims we can trust?

How would you feel if you were given the following choice:
Convert from Islam and live, or remain in Islam and die?

How would you feel if Infidels conquered Muslim lands through force, violence and war?

What if Infidels believed that "once Infidel land, always Infidel land" and we
tried our best through force and violence to get these lands back?

How would you feel if it were our religious duty to make the whole world Infidels, through peaceful means if possible, violent means if necessary?

How would you show love and kindness to Infidels, if from the moment we were born, we were taught to hate and despise Muslims, even going so far as to call Muslims monkeys and apes?

/Infidels mean you no harm, but for a millennium and a half, you have been terrorizing, raping, torturing and killing Infidels because we choose to believe differently than you do.
We reserve the right to self defense and self preservation.

10 Broomer  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:07:04pm

re: #6 notutopia

Put a message in a Pizza?

How about sending them "empty wallets"?

11 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:07:04pm

re: #2 Outrider

Fresh thread! What a scent!

Deep breath! Rondildo was beginning to affect the last one.

12 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:07:28pm

re: #7 filetandrelease

Please someone tell me Israel will not halt operations for 10 days!@!

If they do, I may go jihad.

Postal not Jihad.

13 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:07:41pm

Blimey - was that a tank just driving on the road below the roostercam?

14 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:08:08pm

re: #5 Broomer

What's the best way to send a message to Israel not to agree to a ceasefire until Gilad Shalit comes home?

Have them put it in the conditions?

15 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:08:30pm
16 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:08:47pm

re: #10 Broomer

How about sending them "empty wallets"?

Only if they'll take a credit card. Mine is empty of greenbacks. Thanks to MOAB.

17 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:09:42pm

Quickly...someone post a "Do Not Disturb" sign on this fresh thread.

Please no dumb-ass comments from rondeldon an mrseener like the previous thread.

18 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:10:08pm

I am not an animal.

/Joseph Merrick

19 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:10:29pm

re: #17 jorline

Quickly...someone post a "Do Not Disturb" sign on this fresh thread.

Please no dumb-ass comments from rondeldon an mrseener like the previous thread.

Were those two potential trolls masquerading as Lizards that fell through the cracks into the lair?

20 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:11:19pm

Well, Ringo's Pictures seems to be up and rolling again.

21 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:11:25pm

Breaking News! It's cold out there.

22 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:11:55pm

re: #13 yma o hyd

Blimey - was that a tank just driving on the road below the roostercam?

I keep an eye on it but I never get to see the cool stuff.

23 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:12:08pm

re: #20 Ringo the Gringo

Well, Ringo's Pictures seems to be up and rolling again.

Good job.

24 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:12:21pm

re: #8 godfrey

Personally, I'm glad to see a name like "Lionel Chetwynd" on PJTV.

Me, I've always like the Wodehousian names:

Augustus "Gussie" Finknottle
"Cattsmeat" Potter-Pierbright
Honoria Glossop
Roderick Spode
Cyril Basington-Basington

25 filetandrelease  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:12:39pm

re: #12 notutopia

Postal not Jihad.


Yea, that is probably better put, but still......

26 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:12:39pm

re: #17 jorline

Quickly...someone post a "Do Not Disturb" sign on this fresh thread.

Please no dumb-ass comments from rondeldon an mrseener like the previous thread.

I'm afraid we may need to go back to the other thread to defend the new turf Jorline. They're still up to it over there. BB

27 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:12:42pm

re: #21 JammieWearingFool

Breaking News! It's cold out there.

Really?

Well, I never! And in January, too!

28 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:12:50pm

re: #19 Jetpilot1101

Were those two potential trolls masquerading as Lizards that fell through the cracks into the lair?

rondeldon

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29 CommonCents  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:12:54pm

re: #9 Confuzed

To: Hamas, Hamas Supporters, Muslims, CAIR, Moonbats
Cc: World
Subject: How would YOU feel?

Well said.

30 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:13:09pm

re: #21 JammieWearingFool

Really? Shocker!

31 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:13:16pm

Never had watched '24' until this year. Taped the first 4 hours and am completely hooked. I will now have to rent the previous seasons.

32 godfrey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:13:23pm

re: #24 Guanxi88

lol -- And don't forget Waugh. He had some stingers. In fact, "Beste-Chetwynde" was a surname in, what, Decline and Fall?

33 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:13:26pm

re: #21 JammieWearingFool

Breaking News! It's cold out there.

Well, put on some winter clothing instead of jammies!

34 zombie  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:13:42pm
the ratings for articles on the front page are now live — they automatically refresh every 10 seconds.

Does that mean that LGF now "pushes" content to the browser, Charles? I remember in earlier tech discussions, you mentioned you didn't want to do that -- force browser page refreshes automatically (as CNN and I think Drudge do).

How "invasive" are these updates? It's not a full page refresh, but some portion of it refreshes.

For example, if I have CNN open on a browser window as the toppermost thing on my screen, and then I "put my computer to sleep" (by choosing "sleep" from the Apple drop-down menu), which means turns the display off and spins down the hard drive -- the computer will constantly wake itself up because CNN is pushing content to the browser application. If I close CNN, the problem goes away.

If I leave LGF as the top window on my screen, will my computer now "wake up" from sleep, unwittingly?

35 DaddyG  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:14:12pm

Just 2 short of 1000 Karma!

/Are there prizes?

(sigh) gotta go back to work.

36 CommonCents  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:14:14pm

re: #31 newsjunkie_ky

Never had watched '24' until this year. Taped the first 4 hours and am completely hooked. I will now have to rent the previous seasons.

Make sure you clear your calendar. I remember when I had to play catch up on season's 1,2,3. It's addicting.

37 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:14:18pm

re: #34 zombie

If I leave LGF as the top window on my screen, will my computer now "wake up" from sleep, unwittingly?

The sleeper has awakened" - Paul Atreides

38 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:14:38pm

re: #20 Ringo the Gringo

Well, Ringo's Pictures seems to be up and rolling again.

You have all the good luck. Such great pictures and such great nuts. Here in Golden, even when we have something as big a Al-Jazeera come to town, all we get is a 100 or so for's and against's and we still all meet for BBQ afterwards.

39 zombie  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:14:56pm

re: #15 buzzsawmonkey

There sure as hell ain't gonna be no cigarette trees on Big Obama Mountain.

40 Eowyn2  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:15:05pm

re: #3 Guanxi88

So, I got nothing.

I got 2 dimes, 1 quarter, grey pocket lint, and a dirty kleenex

41 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:15:22pm

re: #39 zombie

There sure as hell ain't gonna be no cigarette trees on Big Obama Mountain.

How, then, is He to get His fix?

42 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:15:25pm

re: #35 DaddyG

Just 2 short of 1000 Karma!

/Are there prizes?

(sigh) gotta go back to work.

Up-ding,There's one more ;>}

43 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:15:32pm

re: #37 Guanxi88

The sleeper has awakened" - Paul Atreides

LGF is a killing word.... to the mainstream media... /

44 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:15:33pm

re: #34 zombie

Does that mean that LGF now "pushes" content to the browser, Charles? I remember in earlier tech discussions, you mentioned you didn't want to do that -- force browser page refreshes automatically (as CNN and I think Drudge do).

How "invasive" are these updates? It's not a full page refresh, but some portion of it refreshes.

For example, if I have CNN open on a browser window as the toppermost thing on my screen, and then I "put my computer to sleep" (by choosing "sleep" from the Apple drop-down menu), which means turns the display off and spins down the hard drive -- the computer will constantly wake itself up because CNN is pushing content to the browser application. If I close CNN, the problem goes away.

If I leave LGF as the top window on my screen, will my computer now "wake up" from sleep, unwittingly?

Great question Zombie.

45 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:15:36pm

re: #41 Guanxi88

How, then, is He to get His fix?

Or do you figure He'll snag 'em all?

46 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:16:07pm

re: #22 MandyManners

I keep an eye on it but I never get to see the cool stuff.

It was pure chance - and I'm not sure it was one, but there are odd noises in the background.

Gah. I wish I knew more about that stuff ...

47 DaddyG  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:16:25pm

re: #35 DaddyG

1000 woo hoo!

48 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:16:31pm

re: #30 lawhawk

Really? Shocker!

Some more of that weird white stuff due to come down tonight. Yay! Hopefully it thaws a bit by later Saturday or Sunday so I can take Junior sledding.

It's starting to feel like a long winter considering it's been cold since early November. Oh well. Makes me enjoy spring and summer that much more.

49 zombie  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:16:50pm

re: #20 Ringo the Gringo

Well, Ringo's Pictures seems to be up and rolling again.

The problem with getting big linkage is that one's server gets overwhelmed and then no one can see the pix! happens to me sometimes too. Very frustrating!

I'm right now making a post that will include extensive linkage to you too! Look for it later today.

50 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:16:56pm

re: #47 DaddyG

1000 woo hoo!

Loud Applause!

51 Diamond Bullet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:17:03pm

It's been interesting being here in DC during the inauguration prep. It is totally overboard, way beyond anything in 2000 or 2004. The Feds shut down a chunk of the city last Sunday just to practice all the marches. (I know, because I got caught in traffic and had to watch part of it). Yesterday, they pre-emptively salted roads north of the White House, apparently just in case it snows in the next 4 days. The salt was so thick it actually blows into your mouth and you have to wash it out. Well over $100 million is being spent on the whole thing. Come Inauguration, they are shutting down all the major highways and roads in from northern Virginia, which is kinda ironic since that was the portion of Virginia that swung the state for Obama. The entire place is taking on a Roman triumphal march sort of vibe for Obama's coronation, so much so that the line from Gladiator sums it up: "He enters Rome as a conquering hero...but what has he conquered?"

52 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:17:07pm
53 gop_patriot  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:17:20pm

re: #21 JammieWearingFool

Breaking News! It's cold out there.

Not here. It's 55 and sunny. Nice, but not for January. I like some winter in my winter, thanks. ;)

I've enjoyed reading comments and chatting with y'all today, hope everyone has a great afternoon.

/changed my avatar to portray my current state. Going to watch the Gaza Cam for a little while then taking a nap.

54 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:17:34pm

re: #31 newsjunkie_ky

Never had watched '24' until this year. Taped the first 4 hours and am completely hooked. I will now have to rent the previous seasons.

Watch the first four seasons, they're great. The last year sucked...Fox was playing to the PC crowd. One time my entire family sits down together to watch the same show...popcorn and ice cream!

55 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:17:44pm

re: #51 Diamond Bullet

It's been interesting being here in DC during the inauguration prep. It is totally overboard, way beyond anything in 2000 or 2004. The Feds shut down a chunk of the city last Sunday just to practice all the marches. (I know, because I got caught in traffic and had to watch part of it). Yesterday, they pre-emptively salted roads north of the White House, apparently just in case it snows in the next 4 days. The salt was so thick it actually blows into your mouth and you have to wash it out. Well over $100 million is being spent on the whole thing. Come Inauguration, they are shutting down all the major highways and roads in from northern Virginia, which is kinda ironic since that was the portion of Virginia that swung the state for Obama. The entire place is taking on a Roman triumphal march sort of vibe for Obama's coronation, so much so that the line from Gladiator sums it up: "He enters Rome as a conquering hero...but what has he conquered?"

Look, if it's the last one you're gonna have, you gotta do it up right.

56 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:17:45pm

re: #33 Kosh's Shadow

Well, put on some winter clothing instead of jammies!

Full disclosure: I normally wear clothes and don't own any jammies.

57 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:17:51pm

re: #47 DaddyG

1000 woo hoo!

Way to go.

58 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:17:55pm

re: #48 JammieWearingFool

Some more of that weird white stuff due to come down tonight. Yay! Hopefully it thaws a bit by later Saturday or Sunday so I can take Junior sledding.

It's starting to feel like a long winter considering it's been cold since early November. Oh well. Makes me enjoy spring and summer that much more.

We're due for 3 more inches of Global Warming tonight and tomorrow. This afternoon I'll be chipping the ice off my driveway so I can actually get the car in the garage and won't have to contend with snow covered ice tomorrow.

59 faraway  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:18:02pm

Lizards never sleep.

60 zombie  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:18:06pm

re: #31 newsjunkie_ky

Never had watched '24' until this year. Taped the first 4 hours and am completely hooked. I will now have to rent the previous seasons.

Skip the season or two prior to this one. They were moonbattish. The first few seasons were better. And, needless to say, the one season with the realistic actual Islamic terrorists was the best one!

61 Yashmak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:18:20pm

re: #21 JammieWearingFool

Breaking News! It's cold out there.

According to PowerLine, Pravda is now claiming the next ice age is on the way.

PREPARE FOR THE NEW HYSTERIA. (It's just like the old hysteria, only new)

62 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:18:44pm

re: #9 Confuzed

To: Hamas, Hamas Supporters, Muslims, CAIR, Moonbats
Cc: World
Subject: How would YOU feel?

How would you (Muslims) feel if 10% of the Infidel world tried our
very best to terrorize you and kill you? What if this were not only allowed in our holy book, but a required religious duty? THAT'S WHAT THEY ALREADY THINK IS HAPPENING.

Which Infidels would you trust if you knew the surest way for Infidels to get to heaven was to kill Muslims? THAT'S WHAT THEY ALREADY TEACH THEIR CHILDREN WE BELEIVE.


Which group of Infidels would you trust if male and female, young and old, sick and healthy, even handicapped and pregnant Infidel women, tried and frequently succeeded killing as many Muslims as possible worldwide, whenever and wherever? THAT'S WHAT THEY ALREADY THINK WE ARE DOING.


Mohammed Atta, the 9/11 leader of the 1st plane to hit the WTC was before 9/11, law-abiding, respectful, polite, and well-mannered.

If model citizens can turn on Infidels like the 19 hijackers did, please tell us which Muslims we can trust?

How would you feel if you were given the following choice:
Convert from Islam and live, or remain in Islam and die? THAT'S WHY THEY THINK WE ARE IN DAR AL-ISLAM RIGHT NOW.

How would you feel if Infidels conquered Muslim lands through force, violence and war? THAT'S WHAT THEY BELEIVE IS ALREADY HAPPENING.

What if Infidels believed that "once Infidel land, always Infidel land" and we tried our best through force and violence to get these lands back?

How would you feel if it were our religious duty to make the whole world Infidels, through peaceful means if possible, violent means if necessary? THAT'S WHAT THEY THINK WE ARE DOING.

How would you show love and kindness to Infidels, if from the moment we were born, we were taught to hate and despise Muslims, even going so far as to call Muslims monkeys and apes? THAT'S WHAT THEY THINK WE ARE DOING.

/Infidels mean you no harm, but for a millennium and a half, you have been terrorizing, raping, torturing and killing Infidels because we choose to believe differently than you do.
We reserve the right to self defense and self preservation.

63 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:18:50pm
64 Yashmak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:19:22pm

re: #60 zombie

Skip the season or two prior to this one. They were moonbattish. The first few seasons were better. And, needless to say, the one season with the realistic actual Islamic terrorists was the best one!


How many seasons ARE there?!? I thought they were only up to the 2nd or 3rd! (I haven't had TV in a few years though, so I'm not surprised to be a bit out of date)

65 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:19:26pm

re: #59 faraway

Lizards never sleep.

We wait....

66 zombie  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:19:32pm

re: #38 Walter L. Newton

You have all the good luck. Such great pictures and such great nuts. Here in Golden, even when we have something as big a Al-Jazeera come to town, all we get is a 100 or so for's and against's and we still all meet for BBQ afterwards.

Well, you did have the DNC convention in Denver, which (as I discovered all too well) had plenty of photogenic nutcases!

67 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:19:39pm
68 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:20:32pm

re: #6 notutopia

Put a message in a Pizza?

Message in a warhead works for me.

69 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:20:34pm

re: #51 Diamond Bullet

It's been interesting being here in DC during the inauguration prep. It is totally overboard, way beyond anything in 2000 or 2004. The Feds shut down a chunk of the city last Sunday just to practice all the marches. (I know, because I got caught in traffic and had to watch part of it). Yesterday, they pre-emptively salted roads north of the White House, apparently just in case it snows in the next 4 days. The salt was so thick it actually blows into your mouth and you have to wash it out. Well over $100 million is being spent on the whole thing. Come Inauguration, they are shutting down all the major highways and roads in from northern Virginia, which is kinda ironic since that was the portion of Virginia that swung the state for Obama. The entire place is taking on a Roman triumphal march sort of vibe for Obama's coronation, so much so that the line from Gladiator sums it up: "He enters Rome as a conquering hero...but what has he conquered?"

They don't want any escape routes when he summons the Elder Gods, and lesser beings like Cthulu come along for the feast.

70 Yashmak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:20:54pm

re: #67 buzzsawmonkey

"Sage Presages New Stage Ice Age?"

That's rather good, I must say!

71 filetandrelease  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:21:31pm

re: #61 Yashmak

According to PowerLine, Pravda is now claiming the next ice age is on the way.

PREPARE FOR THE NEW HYSTERIA. (It's just like the old hysteria, only new)

The scary part is that it is back up by actual science.

72 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:21:40pm

Egypt and Hamas were negotiating a proposal for a 10-day cease-fire

Egyptian and Palestinian officials said they hoped to seal Hamas' agreement on a temporary halt in fighting, which would be presented to Israel for approval. Key uncertainties remained for a longer-term deal under which Gaza's borders would be open and Israeli troops would withdraw. Israel, meanwhile, prepared to dispatch two envoys - one to Egypt to present the Jerusalem government's stance, and one to Washington to discuss a possible American role in security on the porous border between Egypt and the Gaza Strip.
73 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:22:00pm

re: #21 JammieWearingFool

Breaking News! It's cold out there.

Thanks for the flash freeze!

74 Yashmak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:22:01pm

re: #71 filetandrelease

The scary part is that it is back up by actual science.

Well, I guess it's not EXACTLY like the old hysteria then.

75 godfrey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:22:02pm

In Russia, Global Warming is what's behind Global Cooling, comrades! Don't you see the kapeetalist plotnik?

76 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:22:04pm

re: #34 zombie

Does that mean that LGF now "pushes" content to the browser, Charles? I remember in earlier tech discussions, you mentioned you didn't want to do that -- force browser page refreshes automatically (as CNN and I think Drudge do).

How "invasive" are these updates? It's not a full page refresh, but some portion of it refreshes.

For example, if I have CNN open on a browser window as the toppermost thing on my screen, and then I "put my computer to sleep" (by choosing "sleep" from the Apple drop-down menu), which means turns the display off and spins down the hard drive -- the computer will constantly wake itself up because CNN is pushing content to the browser application. If I close CNN, the problem goes away.

If I leave LGF as the top window on my screen, will my computer now "wake up" from sleep, unwittingly?

Nope. It's all Ajax-driven, no page reloads. Sleep mode works normally.

77 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:22:31pm
78 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:22:50pm

re: #72 Kenneth

Egypt and Hamas were negotiating a proposal for a 10-day cease-fire

They couldn't get a 10 year hudna, so they were going to see if they could rearm in 10 days.
Crush Ham-ass!

79 faraway  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:23:19pm

re: #76 Charles

Nope. It's all Ajax-driven, no page reloads. Sleep mode works normally.

All hail Ajax

80 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:23:23pm

Why is the Hamas "negotiator" alive?

81 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:23:26pm

BBIAB

82 Dainn  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:23:36pm

re: #21 JammieWearingFool

I had the top down on my way to work today. Gotta love living in a state with no weather (CA). I wonder if the tax rate and global temperature are connected in some way: both are nice and high here.

83 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:23:47pm

re: #79 faraway

All hail Ajax

Ajax is the Messiah.

84 FightingBack  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:23:49pm

I was watching NPR's Mara Eliason on Fox yesterday, and they were commenting on Obama's Pre-Inauguration Administration Legislative Failure: Tax Credits for Businesses that Create Jobs. They showed clips of Obama campaigning on this idea all over (massive applause, audience goes wild); and then, Schumer said that it had not one single legislator in support. He checked his back to be sure.
Ms Eliason, eyes popping all the way, still maintained that this was the wonderful way of the O. She said that the "Obama camp" must be given credit for greatness (!) because once they realized that it was a big loser, they backed off. (Of course, not before the election was over.)

85 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:24:07pm

Dispatch Ajax, to bring back his body!

86 Digital Display  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:24:09pm

re: #80 Ben Hur

Why is the Hamas "negotiator" alive?

Cause he never uses a cell phone?

87 subsailor68  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:24:30pm

Hey, you guys wanna talk about evolution and at what age girls should get married?

(ducks, runs, hides....)

88 Yashmak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:24:36pm

re: #82 Dainn

I had the top down on my way to work today. Gotta love living in a state with no weather (CA). I wonder if the tax rate and global temperature are connected in some way: both are nice and high here.

Cali here too. . .I have to say, it is unseasonably warm here at the moment. I took the liner out of my motorcycle jacket on the way in at 6am this morning.

89 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:24:46pm

re: #72 Kenneth


Kripes.. I almost spit out my drink. Israel is coming here for advice on border security?

/I'm speechless

90 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:24:50pm

re: #34 zombie

Does that mean that LGF now "pushes" content to the browser, Charles? I remember in earlier tech discussions, you mentioned you didn't want to do that -- force browser page refreshes automatically (as CNN and I think Drudge do).

How "invasive" are these updates? It's not a full page refresh, but some portion of it refreshes.

For example, if I have CNN open on a browser window as the toppermost thing on my screen, and then I "put my computer to sleep" (by choosing "sleep" from the Apple drop-down menu), which means turns the display off and spins down the hard drive -- the computer will constantly wake itself up because CNN is pushing content to the browser application. If I close CNN, the problem goes away.

If I leave LGF as the top window on my screen, will my computer now "wake up" from sleep, unwittingly?

Charles is using standard "web 2.0 / AJAX" html/xml features to update specific page elements without refreshing the page.

Drudgereport, for example, tells your browser to automatically refresh the page at an interval given when the page first loads. That is "old school" and eats up bandwidth.

Charles uses the latest browser technology so that elements update without having to hit refresh (or set a refresh interval like Drudge and CNN) so as to sip bandwidth and give you a better experience.

BTW - here is the "refresh" code at CNN.



So you shouldn't have the "wake up" problem like CNN does.

91 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:24:53pm

The fighting in Gaza is over when the Rooster says it's over.
//

92 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:24:58pm

re: #72 Kenneth

Egypt and Hamas were negotiating a proposal for a 10-day cease-fire

Egyptian and Palestinian officials said they hoped to seal Hamas' agreement on a temporary halt in fighting, which would be presented to Israel for approval. Key uncertainties remained for a longer-term deal under which Gaza's borders would be open and Israeli troops would withdraw. Israel, meanwhile, prepared to dispatch two envoys - one to Egypt to present the Jerusalem government's stance, and one to Washington to discuss a possible American role in security on the porous border between Egypt and the Gaza Strip.

Good intentions, bad plan. That would do nothing but amplify the "Greater and Lesser Satan" rant.

93 filetandrelease  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:25:06pm

re: #78 Kosh's Shadow

They couldn't get a 10 year hudna, so they were going to see if they could rearm in 10 days.
Crush Ham-ass!

If Israel agrees I am going jihad postal!

94 godfrey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:25:06pm

So I'm guessing Haniyeh and Zahar are in hiding and will suffer a severe loss of face. No? Is Hamas down for the count? I hope Abbas is feeling like the IAF sights will next train on him.

95 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:25:08pm
96 bulwrk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:25:09pm

re: #79 faraway

Ajax Akbar

97 zombie  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:25:13pm

re: #76 Charles

Nope. It's all Ajax-driven, no page reloads. Sleep mode works normally.

That Ajax is some sneaky stuff! Thanks.

How come CNN and Drudge (and many others) haven't entered the Ajax Age? Some of their code is pretty primitive. Messes with the browser too much.

How can one man out-code CNN's entire tech department with a multi-million dollar budget?

98 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:25:15pm

re: #58 Jetpilot1101

Hey Jet, My nic is blue, send me some contact info, we can get started on that Mass lizard convention.

99 Taqiyyotomist  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:25:22pm

re: #9 Confuzed

A thousand updings.
Indeed. Who can we trust who says they follow Islam, Mohammad, and the Quran?

100 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:25:28pm

The IDF should develop a mechanical rooster and send it in to do reconnaisance.
Call it Robo-Rooster.........

101 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:25:29pm

If there's grass in the field, play ball!

/bye bye, thread!

102 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:25:39pm

re: #75 godfrey

This was explained to me by a moonbat last week: the cooling we are seeing in the weather is caused by Global Warming. So is the warming.

103 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:25:47pm

re: #76 Charles

Shoulda just waited for the big lizard to respond ...

104 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:25:49pm

My husband is not afraid of getting his hands dirty...
Ajax

105 Yashmak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:25:54pm

re: #94 godfrey

So I'm guessing Haniyeh and Zahar are in hiding and will suffer a severe loss of face. No? Is Hamas down for the count? I hope Abbas is feeling like the IAF sights will next train on him.

Nah, they'll just blame it on the Syrian branch of Hamas. . .in fact, they're already doing so, blaming them for a dearth of material support.

106 faraway  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:25:57pm

Ajax is always waiting... watching...

107 Texas Heathen  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:25:58pm

re: #9 Confuzed

well said.

108 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:26:29pm

re: #78 Kosh's Shadow

If you want war, have a ceasefire. If you want peace, let the IDF finish the job.

109 zombie  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:26:36pm

re: #90 karmic_inquisitor

Thx!

110 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:26:38pm
111 Eowyn2  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:26:40pm

re: #20 Ringo the Gringo

Well, Ringo's Pictures seems to be up and rolling again.


I especially like the sign stating "who would think the Israelis would be the cause of the next holocaust"

Weren't the Jews the cause of the nazi holocaust?
/

112 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:27:06pm

re: #96 bulwrk

Ajax Akbar

Abha (Arabic for "Most Glorious.")

113 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:27:24pm

re: #90 karmic_inquisitor

Charles - I tried using the < code > tag back there and it didn't work but it has in the past. Change?

114 Dainn  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:27:29pm

re: #89 x-wing

LOL! Yeah I can imagine what we would tell them: "Let em all in and watch demographics change while singing "Que Sera Sera" to a latin beat.

115 Taqiyyotomist  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:28:04pm

"re: #24 Guanxi88

Me, I've always like the Wodehousian names:

Augustus "Gussie" Finknottle
"Cattsmeat" Potter-Pierbright
Honoria Glossop
Roderick Spode
Cyril Basington-Basington

The esteemed Charles Emerson Winchester the Third had a sister named Honoria. (love m*a*s*h)

116 godfrey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:28:15pm

re: #105 Yashmak

Are the Teherannical leaders in Iran are pulling out their beards yet?

117 Bob Dillon  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:28:19pm

re: #5 Broomer

What's the best way to send a message to Israel not to agree to a ceasefire until Gilad Shalit comes home?

That is a good question - I don't understand why it's not a precondition.

It's a shame but it would seem the Israeli leadership lacks the huevos to make it one.

I think it sends a poor signal to the Israeli military.

118 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:28:20pm

re: #9 Confuzed

You get my vote for Comment of the Day. Well said.

119 Kragar  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:28:22pm

re: #21 JammieWearingFool

Breaking News! It's cold out there.

Thats due to Global Warming.

/

120 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:28:36pm

re: #109 zombie

Thx!

You are welcome.

Here is that CNN refresh code in a way that gets past Charles' parser:

< meta >

121 midwestgak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:28:51pm

re: #17 jorline

Quickly...someone post a "Do Not Disturb" sign on this fresh thread.

Please no dumb-ass comments from rondeldon an mrseener like the previous thread.

Thanks for saying that.

122 SWPaul  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:28:53pm

Wow, Ringo's pictures are pretty disturbing... I'd be terrified to go to a counter-protest cause I'd think the pro-Hamas side would tear me apart. It's really disturbing that so many people in this country are just insane.

123 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:28:56pm

re: #97 zombie

That Ajax is some sneaky stuff! Thanks.

How come CNN and Drudge (and many others) haven't entered the Ajax Age? Some of their code is pretty primitive. Messes with the browser too much.

How can one man out-code CNN's entire tech department with a multi-million dollar budget?

they probably have a non-geek telling them how to do it.

124 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:28:58pm

re: #91 jorline

The fighting in Gaza is over when the Rooster says it's over.
//

And the Rooster aint in a talking mood right now;>}

125 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:29:00pm

re: #117 Bobibutu

That is a good question - I don't understand why it's not a precondition.

It's a shame but it would seem the Israeli leadership lacks the huevos to make it one.

I think it sends a poor signal to the Israeli military.

Eggs?

126 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:29:01pm

re: #58 Jetpilot1101

We're due for 3 more inches of Global Warming tonight and tomorrow. This afternoon I'll be chipping the ice off my driveway so I can actually get the car in the garage and won't have to contend with snow covered ice tomorrow.

We only have a one-car garage and since I'm a nice guy my wife gets that. After Saturday's storm I cleared all the ice from the driveway Sunday. Got a giant new bag of ice melt recently so I'll spread it out before I hit the rack tonight and hopefully it isn't that big a mess in the morning. Just have to get up earlier to commute. I'd work from home but I have a couple of meetings tomorrow. Maybe I can work at home Friday.

127 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:29:07pm

re: #98 CapeCoddah

Hey Jet, My nic is blue, send me some contact info, we can get started on that Mass lizard convention.

Email is on the way. This should be a blast!

128 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:29:08pm

re: #96 bulwrk

Ajax Akbar

This is the Messiah, the chosen one !

[Link: sfy.ru...]

129 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:29:12pm

re: #104 notutopia

My husband is not afraid of getting his hands dirty...
Ajax

lmao

Love the "Boss" 302 Mustang at the beginning of the clip also. I can't remember if they made a Mach I in 1969.

130 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:29:44pm

re: #115 Taqiyyotomist

"

The esteemed Charles Emerson Winchester the Third had a sister named Honoria. (love m*a*s*h)

the stutterer who almost married an Italian ;-)>

131 Yashmak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:29:46pm

re: #111 Eowyn2

I especially like the sign stating "who would think the Israelis would be the cause of the next holocaust"

Weren't the Jews the cause of the nazi holocaust?
/

That depends on what you mean by 'cause'. If you mean cause as in, the Jews mere existence caused the holocaust, then yes.

132 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:29:53pm

re: #119 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thats due to Global Warming.

/

Add it to The List

133 godfrey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:30:10pm

Night is day! We are the Ones
Our Carbon beneath the moon
and Under the Sun

134 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:30:14pm

re: #127 Jetpilot1101

Email is on the way. This should be a blast!

Could not possibly be anything but!

135 zombie  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:30:19pm

re: #120 karmic_inquisitor

You are welcome.

Here is that CNN refresh code in a way that gets past Charles' parser:

< meta http-equiv="refresh" content="1800;url=?refresh=1" >

CNN must stand for "Code Not New."

136 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:30:31pm

re: #102 Kenneth

This was explained to me by a moonbat last week: the cooling we are seeing in the weather is caused by Global Warming. So is the warming.

There's a certain symmetry to their idiocy.......Heads I win, Tails you lose.
Bastards.

137 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:30:33pm

This is rich.

After screaming about WHITE PHOSPHORUS shells, that the Int'l Red Cross said was legal because Israel was using them for smokescreens and not war-heads, we have this:

Phosphorus mortar shell detected in Negev

One of the mortar shells fired from northern Gaza at the Eshkol Regional Council Tuesday contained white phosphorus.

138 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:30:40pm

re: #115 Taqiyyotomist

You asked for it...

139 faraway  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:30:50pm

MSM: when will you negotiate with hamas for a cease fire?
IDF: we don't negotiate with terrorists

140 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:31:04pm

re: #126 JammieWearingFool

We only have a one-car garage and since I'm a nice guy my wife gets that. After Saturday's storm I cleared all the ice from the driveway Sunday. Got a giant new bag of ice melt recently so I'll spread it out before I hit the rack tonight and hopefully it isn't that big a mess in the morning. Just have to get up earlier to commute. I'd work from home but I have a couple of meetings tomorrow. Maybe I can work at home Friday.

Solution : Stop being a nice guy.
/

141 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:31:09pm

re: #126 JammieWearingFool

I was an idiot and didn't clear the snow which promptly partially melted and then froze overnight in a giant ice rink. I'm going to clear it today so I can actually use the driveway.

142 Yashmak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:31:11pm

re: #116 godfrey

Are the Teherannical leaders in Iran are pulling out their beards yet?

Probably too busy watching women's beach volleyball with Ahmadinnajacket.

143 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:31:26pm

re: #129 jorline

lmao

Love the "Boss" 302 Mustang at the beginning of the clip also. I can't remember if they made a Mach I in 1969.

I love looking at the old commercials too. You never know what memories they drag up with them.

144 opnion  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:31:41pm

re: #89 x-wing

Kripes.. I almost spit out my drink. Israel is coming here for advice on border security?

/I'm speechless


Wait, we must be doing something right. We don't have a bunch of Palistinians tunnleing here. I bet after conulting with us, Israel won't have Mexiacans sneaking across their border.

145 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:32:11pm

re: #125 notutopia

Eggs?

we have a joint down here in ABQ....Garcias Kitchen....serves the very best huevos locos evah!....mmmmm

146 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:32:16pm

re: #48 JammieWearingFool

Yeah, I'm looking forward to the snow too. Hate having all this cold without some white stuff on the ground. It's a waste of cold air if you ask me.

147 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:32:29pm

re: #134 CapeCoddah

Could not possibly be anything but!

Looking forward to it! We need to get loppyd and the rest of the gang involved.

148 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:32:40pm

re: #144 opnion

upding. Impeccable logic!

149 CommonCents  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:32:44pm

re: #48 JammieWearingFool

Some more of that weird white stuff due to come down tonight. Yay! Hopefully it thaws a bit by later Saturday or Sunday so I can take Junior sledding.

It's starting to feel like a long winter considering it's been cold since early November. Oh well. Makes me enjoy spring and summer that much more.

Some people say their glass is half full. They just don't say what it's full of.

150 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:33:29pm

re: #135 zombie

CNN must stand for "Code Not New."

Just to be fair, rewriting a site to use AJAX features ain't trivial. Charles has done a whole lot to rewrite the LGF engine (and would have done more if he had gone with Ruby on Rails. BTW - anyone know if that asshat at dKos is still trying to rewrite it in Ruby? )

151 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:33:31pm

re: #145 albusteve

we have a joint down here in ABQ....Garcias Kitchen....serves the very best huevos locos evah!....mmmmm

Crazy eggs...are they mountain oysters or eggs?

152 Eowyn2  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:33:38pm

re: #97 zombie

That Ajax is some sneaky stuff! Thanks.

How come CNN and Drudge (and many others) haven't entered the Ajax Age? Some of their code is pretty primitive. Messes with the browser too much.

How can one man out-code CNN's entire tech department with a multi-million dollar budget?

cuts down on

budget staff meetings
planning staff meetings
budget planning meetings with staff planning budget

153 Soona'  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:33:43pm

re: #91 jorline

The fighting in Gaza is over when the Rooster says it's over.
//

All hail the rooster! (Can anyone get roostercam today? I'm having trouble getting the website)

154 vagabond trader  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:33:53pm

Just called my senator and wrote to him. Joe Lieberman,shame on you for remaining silent while American Jews are threatened on their own streets.I am steamed that he is falling all over the Clinton hag and licking the boots of his "progressive" friends in DC. Next he'll be going to Shul with his new best friend Barry.

155 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:33:56pm

Well Lizards, time to go. Time to get to work on the driveway.

156 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:33:58pm

re: #149 CommonCents

Some people say their glass is half full. They just don't say what it's full of.

wrong sized glass to start with then. ;-)>

157 opnion  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:34:22pm

re: #148 jwb7605

upding. Impeccable logic!

Why thank you & I thoroughly agree with me.

158 HippieforLife  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:34:35pm

re: #20 Ringo the Gringo

Well, Ringo's Pictures seems to be up and rolling again.

Great pictures. I am so saddened that parents would expose their children to such hate. These people live in the USA because they can enjoy the freedom to make sickening protests without being shot or run over by tanks.

I will be giving my grandsons an extra hug tonight.

159 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:34:42pm

re: #150 karmic_inquisitor

Just to be fair, rewriting a site to use AJAX features ain't trivial. Charles has done a whole lot to rewrite the LGF engine (and would have done more if he had gone with Ruby on Rails. BTW - anyone know if that asshat at dKos is still trying to rewrite it in Ruby? )

I hadthe impression they were just writing it in Stupid v.2.03

160 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:34:42pm

Iranians trying to play cute - and run the blockade into Gaza, but the Egyptians aren't showing them any love either.

On Tuesday, the boat docked in Port Said, Egypt, but the Egyptians refused to allow it to unload its cargo and at midnight Wednesday the boat tried sailing into Gaza.

A Navy Sa'ar 4.5-class missile ship intercepted the Iranian boat and transmitted a clear message on Channel 16 - the international communication line for ships - that it would not allow the boat to dock in Gaza.

On Wednesday morning, when it was 30 miles off the Gaza coast, the Iranian boat again tried to move toward the Strip, and the Navy again intercepted it. It then returned to el-Arish, Egypt, and two Egyptian boats prevented it from docking there.

Since that time, the boat has been sitting 30 miles off the coast of Gaza and is being closely tracked by the Israeli navy. Israel and the Egyptians have been coordinating all activity regarding the Iranian boat.

They're refusing to allow the Iranian ship to dock and/ or offload there either.

161 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:34:45pm

re: #144 opnion

Wait, we must be doing something right. We don't have a bunch of Palistinians tunnleing here. I bet after conulting with us, Israel won't have Mexiacans sneaking across their border.

ROTFLMAO.

162 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:35:10pm

re: #141 Jetpilot1101

I was an idiot and didn't clear the snow which promptly partially melted and then froze overnight in a giant ice rink. I'm going to clear it today so I can actually use the driveway.

My driveway is often a mess right outside the garage since when it thaws it all runs off the roof onto the driveway, which is on a slight slope. Then every night it freezes over. And since I'm leaving in the dark I must tread carefully. Haven't has that problem this week since it hasn't been above 30 except maybe for a little while yesterday afternoon.

163 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:35:16pm

re: #49 zombie

The problem with getting big linkage is that one's server gets overwhelmed and then no one can see the pix! happens to me sometimes too. Very frustrating!

I'm right now making a post that will include extensive linkage to you too! Look for it later today.

I seem to be able to handle a lot of hits to my site on the same day, but when Charles links to me I get hit all at once, and that knocks me off.

I look forward to seeing your post. Tonight I'm going to go and fix the typos that I now see at my site and I may add a few more pictures as well.

Back to my real job now.

164 godfrey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:35:32pm

Apparently Sarkozy is an inch shorter than Napoleon.

165 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:35:59pm

re: #153 Soona'

All hail the rooster! (Can anyone get roostercam today? I'm having trouble getting the website)


Roostercam

[Link: switch206-01.castup.net...]

166 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:36:09pm

re: #153 Soona'

All hail the rooster! (Can anyone get roostercam today? I'm having trouble getting the website)

I'm getting it pretty well.

167 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:36:28pm

re: #151 notutopia

Crazy eggs...are they mountain oysters or eggs?

scrambled eggs/meat/potatoes/onions, peppers, tomatoes....all smothered in a green chile gravy

168 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:36:34pm

re: #153 Soona'

All hail the rooster! (Can anyone get roostercam today? I'm having trouble getting the website)

I was able to log after two hours of trying.

Nothing like light shows, roosters, kittens and an occasional horse clopping down the street.

169 vagabond trader  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:36:40pm

re: #164 godfrey

SMS-short man syndrome. Used to see it a lot with height impaired surgeons I worked with.

170 Taqiyyotomist  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:36:48pm

re: #138 Kenneth

LOL! Never knew Wodehouse had ever been done on TV.

171 DeafDog  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:36:49pm

re: #102 Kenneth

This was explained to me by a moonbat last week: the cooling we are seeing in the weather is caused by Global Warming. So is the warming.

It's all so obvious now. Thanks.

/

172 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:36:51pm
173 Bob Dillon  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:37:02pm

re: #125 notutopia

Eggs?

testosterone

174 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:37:18pm

re: #159 Outrider

I hadthe impression they were just writing it in Stupid v.2.03

Does anybody here know anything about Qt?
Serious job-search-related question. It's pronounced "Cute".

175 Eowyn2  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:37:19pm

re: #129 jorline

lmao

Love the "Boss" 302 Mustang at the beginning of the clip also. I can't remember if they made a Mach I in 1969.

once had a 75 Mustang II Mach I; cant remember if it was a fastback or a hatchback.

176 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:37:25pm

re: #127 Jetpilot1101

Email is on the way. This should be a blast!

Got it,but cannot open the attachment. Sent an e-mail back to you with the explaination

177 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:37:42pm

re: #160 lawhawk

There is no love between the Iranians and the Egyptian gov't. The mullahs renamed the street in Tehran on which the Egyptian embassy sits after the man who assassinated President Anwar Sadat. For some reason, the Egyptians are rather annoyed about that.

178 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:37:51pm

re: #165 x-wing

Roostercam

[Link: switch206-01.castup.net...]

Am I the only one who sometimes reads "castup" as "catsup"?

179 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:38:04pm

Bolivia severs ties with Israel over Gaza

This really hurts.

What will Israel do without all of Bolivia's technological developements?

Their leading research in agriculture, science, cancer research, child care, etc etc.

What will Israel do without all the information that Bolivian astronauts bring back from shuttle missions?

I mean, does this mean Israel can't use Bolivia's satellites anymore?

What if Bolivian university professors stop sharing their knowledge with Tel Aviv University, Hebrew University, Technion, etc etc?

Devolution has begun in ISrael!

180 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:38:36pm

re: #167 albusteve

scrambled eggs/meat/potatoes/onions, peppers, tomatoes....all smothered in a green chile gravy

Muy Bien ! Sounds like a great idea for supper tonite.

181 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:38:40pm

re: #174 jwb7605

Does anybody here know anything about Qt?
Serious job-search-related question. It's pronounced "Cute".

So am I but, I can't help with your tech question.

182 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:38:40pm

re: #165 x-wing

Roostercam

[Link: switch206-01.castup.net...]

Thanks for that linky, x-wing...I've been using LGF's for several days now.

183 Taqiyyotomist  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:38:40pm

Got to go snowblowing and shovelling. Later, Lizardia.

184 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:38:45pm

re: #178 MandyManners

Am I the only one who sometimes reads "castup" as "catsup"?

on. Must be a disorder.
/

185 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:38:55pm

re: #178 MandyManners

Am I the only one who sometimes reads "castup" as "catsup"?

I always do but I couldn't mustard the courage to admit it.....
:)

186 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:38:55pm

Look, seriously, somebody needs to get over there and point the Roostercam properly. Hardly anything worth seeing for some time now.

I'm sure Foghorn Al-Leghorn ain't at the controls (haven't heard him all day), and that explains the crappiness, but please, somebody, get it right.

187 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:39:08pm

re: #170 Taqiyyotomist

Oh yes! You've got to see the series: it stars Hugh Laurie, now of "House" fame. Brilliantly silly stuff.

188 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:39:14pm

re: #181 MandyManners

So am I but, I can't help with your tech question.

Are you cross platform compatible?

189 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:39:41pm

re: #178 MandyManners

Am I the only one who sometimes reads "castup" as "catsup"?

Must be. I do it every single time.

190 Desert Dog  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:39:46pm

re: #138 Kenneth

You asked for it...


Great clip....here's another from the same team:


191 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:39:57pm

gaza cam is up and running this evening...

[Link: switch434-01.castup.net...]

[Link: switch206-01.castup.net...]

192 aggieann  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:40:05pm

re: #31 newsjunkie_ky

Never had watched '24' until this year. Taped the first 4 hours and am completely hooked. I will now have to rent the previous seasons.

I rented it two years ago and watched one or two episodes a night until I got caught up. During that time I developed a rash on my chest and hands (sensitive skin sucks) and hubby swears it was because I got so emotionally caught up in 24. I envy you, getting to see it for the first time!

193 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:40:08pm

re: #174 jwb7605

Does anybody here know anything about Qt?
Serious job-search-related question. It's pronounced "Cute".

just looking it up. it was known as Troll tech initially? lol

194 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:40:15pm
195 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:40:30pm

re: #178 MandyManners

Am I the only one who sometimes reads "castup" as "catsup"?

LOL, I thought it was catsup myself.

196 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:40:41pm

re: #160 lawhawk


Wow.

Egypt is the new Austria to our Zio-Germany.

197 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:40:55pm

re: #175 Eowyn2

once had a 75 Mustang II Mach I; cant remember if it was a fastback or a hatchback.

I had a "69" light blue Grande Mustang with a three speed 302...boy I miss it. :)

198 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:41:31pm

re: #196 Ben Hur

Wow.

Egypt is the new Austria to our Zio-Germany.

Egypt ain't the new anything.

199 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:41:43pm

re: #180 notutopia

Muy Bien ! Sounds like a great idea for supper tonite.

I can be sitting in front of a plate in 15min...lots of really great chow in my hood....doesnt your daughter live here?

200 Taqiyyotomist  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:41:51pm

re: #187 Kenneth

I still feel I am too young to have even attempted to read PGW. Found "The Most of P. G. Wodehouse" in a box of old books a few years ago, and loved it, but I'm a Midwestern boy, it takes the accent to really get the feel, and, indeed, the humor. I want to see more.

Gotta go, shovellin time.

201 bulwrk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:42:12pm

re: #129 jorline

lmao

Love the "Boss" 302 Mustang at the beginning of the clip also. I can't remember if they made a Mach I in 1969.

IIRC in 1969 it was the GT350 which was the forerunner of the Mach I

202 3 wood  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:42:36pm

Despite the market bombing today, sentiment is starting to turn just a little bit for improvements in the future:

Stock Market Bears Worldwide Recede on Stimulus Plan, Rate Cuts

Jan. 14 (Bloomberg) -- Investors from New York to Sao Paulo grew less pessimistic about stocks over the next six months on speculation a U.S. stimulus plan and the lowest interest rates on record will revive the global economy, a survey of Bloomberg users showed.

Fewer respondents in the Bloomberg Professional Global Confidence Survey are predicting declines for the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index, Brazil’s Bovespa, the U.K.’s FTSE 100, the CAC 40 in France, Germany’s DAX and Spain’s IBEX 35, the poll of 2,390 users taken Jan. 5 to Jan. 9 showed. Only in Mexico did investors turn bullish and forecast gains, while pessimism increased in Japan, Switzerland and Italy.

I guess they did not hear Obama's "We have everything to fear" speech of last week.

The credit markets appear to still be easing:

Government efforts to reduce borrowing costs and lend unprecedented amounts of cash directly to banks have also helped boost sentiment toward stocks as credit markets thaw.

The London interbank offered rate, or Libor, that banks say they charge each other for three-month loans in dollars slid to 1.09 percent yesterday, the lowest level since June 2003, according to British Bankers’ Association data. The difference between the rate the U.S. Treasury and banks pay for three-month loans, the so-called TED spread, dropped below 100 basis points for the first time in five months.

Part of the deal is that Paulson and Bernanke scared the daylights out of people with their comments in October and since then, and it will take a while for the investing public to recover from that fear.

203 Dainn  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:42:52pm

re: #179 Ben Hur

This is sad news. They will likely also lose Paraguay and most of the other nations of South America I got wrong on my 3rd grade geography exam.

204 Soona'  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:43:11pm

re: #165 x-wing

Roostercam

[Link: switch206-01.castup.net...]

Thanks. Although the screen comes up and it shows that I'm connected to the server, I'm not getting a picture or sound. I'll try again later.

205 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:43:33pm

re: #174 jwb7605

Does anybody here know anything about Qt?
Serious job-search-related question. It's pronounced "Cute".

yeah. its what the KDE desktop system is written in.
its a C++ toolkit for developing GUI apps..

download the Kubuntu distro , and then apt-get install kdevelop
(plus you can also grab the source code of KDE itself if you want to have a play..)

[Link: www.trolltech.com...]
[Link: www.kde.org...]
[Link: www.kde-apps.org...]

and if you like hacking in it, you could always sign up to be a KDE developer and get involved...

206 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:43:46pm

re: #134 CapeCoddah

Could not possibly be anything but!


Count me in.....shoot me an email!

207 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:43:50pm

re: #175 Eowyn2

once had a 75 Mustang II Mach I; cant remember if it was a fastback or a hatchback.

had a '64 1/2 years back that someone had slapped a 289 in. Couldn't bring it back to USA because it had no certificate.

Then had a '79 Mustang. Dumped the 4 cyl. that was in it and put in a 302 from a wrecked truck. Not a real good marriage.

208 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:43:55pm

re: #200 Taqiyyotomist

I still feel I am too young to have even attempted to read PGW. Found "The Most of P. G. Wodehouse" in a box of old books a few years ago, and loved it, but I'm a Midwestern boy, it takes the accent to really get the feel, and, indeed, the humor.

Thing about Wodehouse in general, and Jeeves & Wooster in particular, is, of course, you don't read the stuff for the plot. It's for the dialogue and the narration. Think of it as a sort of hyper-intellectualized version for pR0n.

209 zombie  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:44:11pm

re: #179 Ben Hur

Bolivia severs ties with Israel over Gaza

This really hurts.

What will Israel do without all of Bolivia's technological developements?

Their leading research in agriculture, science, cancer research, child care, etc etc.

What will Israel do without all the information that Bolivian astronauts bring back from shuttle missions?

I mean, does this mean Israel can't use Bolivia's satellites anymore?

What if Bolivian university professors stop sharing their knowledge with Tel Aviv University, Hebrew University, Technion, etc etc?

Devolution has begun in ISrael!

You're overlooking the one thing that matters: Israel will now face a cocaine shortage!

210 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:44:14pm

re: #203 Dainn

This is sad news. They will likely also lose Paraguay and most of the other nations of South America I got wrong on my 3rd grade geography exam.

the sad news is the spread of mindless mass hysteria....even govts want in on it...it's tre cool

211 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:44:14pm

re: #201 bulwrk

IIRC in 1969 it was the GT350 which was the forerunner of the Mach I

Could have been, I can't remember. I know there was a "Boss 302".

212 faraway  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:44:31pm

re: #202 3 wood

Market Up: Obama said...
Market Down: Weather was bad...

213 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:44:36pm

re: #209 zombie

You're overlooking the one thing that matters: Israel will now face a cocaine shortage!

True, ya needs the marching powder.

214 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:44:57pm

re: #193 Outrider

just looking it up. it was known as Troll tech initially? lol

Yes. This company was using Delphi, but now wants a C++ guy. I talked to a recruiter, and thought I might be a good fit (I'd been using C++Builder), but now I'm not so sure.

The recruiter tells me they've gone through a couple of programmers, and I remember I applied there back in September (when I still had money). Going through several programmers (singular position) like that waves some red flags to me.

It's a really nice product and concept.

215 Dainn  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:45:38pm

re: #212 faraway

Market up: Hope and Change
Market down: Bush legacy

216 Alaska Kim  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:45:54pm

Good morning lizards.

217 jamgarr  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:46:04pm

re: #115 Taqiyyotomist

"


The esteemed Charles Emerson Winchester the Third had a sister named Honoria. (love m*a*s*h)

My favorite CEW quote: "I do one thing at a time, I do it very well, then I move on."

218 zombie  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:46:19pm

re: #216 Alaska Kim

Good morning lizards.

You Alaskans and your crazy time zones!

219 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:46:32pm

re: #149 CommonCents

Some people say their glass is half full. They just don't say what it's full of.

I actually enjoy the change of seasons, although once you hit late January things start to drag. I do appreciate it being light out until around 5 pm now and staying lighter a minute or so per day. So long as the wind isn't kicking up I don't mind being outside even in subzero weather. I dress appropriately. Played some hockey on my friend's lake a couple weeks ago, possibly again this weekend. We drilled a hole and tried to fish but nothing was biting. Ice was already four inches thick back then.

Got some skates on my boy but he hasn't gotten it down yet. A work in progress. So after awhile he lays in a little sled and we take him for a ride on the ice. He loves it.

220 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:46:42pm
221 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:47:07pm

re: #214 jwb7605

Yes. This company was using Delphi, but now wants a C++ guy. I talked to a recruiter, and thought I might be a good fit (I'd been using C++Builder), but now I'm not so sure.

The recruiter tells me they've gone through a couple of programmers, and I remember I applied there back in September (when I still had money). Going through several programmers (singular position) like that waves some red flags to me.

It's a really nice product and concept.

wish I knew C++. GBasic and VisualBasic is the extent of my abilities. ;-)>

222 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:47:21pm
Investors from New York to Sao Paulo grew less pessimistic about stocks over the next six months on speculation a U.S. stimulus plan and the lowest interest rates on record will revive the global economy, a survey of Bloomberg users showed.

English?

223 Alaska Kim  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:47:34pm

re: #218 zombie

You Alaskans and your crazy time zones!

Yeah, and the land of the midnight sun!

224 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:47:53pm

re: #219 JammieWearingFool

Your friend has his own lake?

225 Taqiyyotomist  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:47:54pm

re: #208 Guanxi88

Thing about Wodehouse in general, and Jeeves & Wooster in particular, is, of course, you don't read the stuff for the plot. It's for the dialogue and the narration. Think of it as a sort of hyper-intellectualized version for pR0n.

Yes. (got my coat and boots on...:)) Maybe also akin to Quentin Tarantino's Pulp Fiction and Resevoir Dogs. Dialogue is the main attraction.

Never thought I would equate Wodehouse with Tarantino!

226 Soona'  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:48:03pm

re: #186 Guanxi88

Look, seriously, somebody needs to get over there and point the Roostercam properly. Hardly anything worth seeing for some time now.

I'm sure Foghorn Al-Leghorn ain't at the controls (haven't heard him all day), and that explains the crappiness, but please, somebody, get it right.

It looks like it's in a totally different location.

227 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:48:08pm

re: #223 Alaska Kim

Yeah, and the land of the midnight sun!

ok., its not alaska, but "ice road truckers" is on british tv right now. awesome series...

228 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:48:19pm

re: #179 Ben Hur

Bolivia severs ties with Israel over Gaza

This really hurts.

What will Israel do without all of Bolivia's technological developements?

Their leading research in agriculture, science, cancer research, child care, etc etc.

What will Israel do without all the information that Bolivian astronauts bring back from shuttle missions?

I mean, does this mean Israel can't use Bolivia's satellites anymore?

What if Bolivian university professors stop sharing their knowledge with Tel Aviv University, Hebrew University, Technion, etc etc?

Devolution has begun in ISrael!

Best response for Israel would be to say..."I don't bolivia we've ever heard of you"........

229 DeafDog  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:48:22pm

re: #215 Dainn

Market up: Hope and Change
Market down: Bush legacy

Need some good news?

Now we can play the Bailout Game at home, too!

230 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:48:53pm

re: #192 aggieann

I rented it two years ago and watched one or two episodes a night until I got caught up. During that time I developed a rash on my chest and hands (sensitive skin sucks) and hubby swears it was because I got so emotionally caught up in 24. I envy you, getting to see it for the first time!

They had them archived on the FOXTV website for all the past 24
series. Search your regional FOX affiliate for programming and search 24.

231 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:49:06pm

re: #205 buzzdroid

yeah. its what the KDE desktop system is written in.
its a C++ toolkit for developing GUI apps..
[SNIP]


Rebit is apparently using it for the "embedded" and "desktop appliance" part, too.
Without knowing what's connected to the disk drive, I don't know much about whether the job would be mostly host-side, and how much would be controller side. Embedded Linux or Windows CE might be at the device side.

At present, the user interface (PC host) is Windoze only.

232 conservativeChick  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:49:11pm

Wow. We weren't kidding when Obama's campain became a cult:
Comcast to Broadcast All-Obama Channel

For some reasom I keep picturing that the only people will watch this crap are a bunch of 27 year olds who still live in mommy and daddy's basement smoking pot and lighting candles around the t.v with a Che flag in the backgound.

233 Alaska Kim  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:49:26pm

re: #227 buzzdroid

ok., its not alaska, but "ice road truckers" is on british tv right now. awesome series...

Those Canadians crack me up with the way they talk. Rather than "about" it's "aboot." heh

234 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:49:45pm

Hmmmm . . . just got back from a meeting and noticed it is getting chilly out. I made the mistake of checking my local forecast. I'm thinking of taking work home with me for the next few days, grabbing my snuggie and going into mild hibernation:

AN ARCTIC HIGH WILL PUSH INTO THE DAKOTAS TONIGHT...SENDING VERY
COLD AIR SOUTH INTO THE GREAT LAKES. THIS COLD AIR WILL REMAIN IN
PLACE FOR THE REST OF THE WEEK. AIR TEMPERATURES EXPECTED TONIGHT
THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT ARE THE COLDEST OBSERVED OVER SOUTHERN
WISCONSIN IN 13 YEARS.

LOW TEMPERATURES TONIGHT ARE EXPECTED TO DROP INTO THE LOW 20S
BELOW ZERO OVER MUCH OF SOUTH CENTRAL WISCONSIN...AROUND 18 BELOW
OVER SOUTHEAST WISCONSIN...AND AROUND 13 BELOW NEAR THE LAKE.
GUSTY NORTHWEST WINDS BETWEEN 10 TO 20 MPH WILL PRODUCE DANGEROUS WIND CHILL VALUES OF 35 TO 45 BELOW.

HIGH TEMPERATURES ON THURSDAY WILL STRUGGLE TO EVEN REACH
5 BELOW.
..DESPITE SUNSHINE. CONTINUED GUSTY NORTHWEST WINDS OF
10 TO 20 MPH WILL PRODUCE WIND CHILL VALUES AROUND 30 BELOW
THROUGHOUT MUCH OF THE DAY.

HIGH PRESSURE WILL SINK SOUTH INTO MISSOURI FOR THURSDAY NIGHT.
CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHTER WINDS WILL ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO PLUMMET INTO THE 20S BELOW MOST PLACES...EXCEPT TEENS BELOW NEAR THE LAKE. SOME LOCATIONS IN THE WISCONSIN RIVER VALLEY MAY REACH 30 BELOW. WIND CHILLS WILL AGAIN RANGE FROM 35 BELOW TO 45 BELOW.

235 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:49:46pm

re: #209 zombie

You're overlooking the one thing that matters: Israel will now face a cocaine shortage!

And those extra tall bowler hats the Bolivian women wear. You don't want to run out of those.

236 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:49:50pm

re: #233 Alaska Kim

Those Canadians crack me up with the way they talk. Rather than "about" it's "aboot." heh

And that weird thing with their heads!

237 faraway  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:49:55pm

re: #232 conservativeChick

Wow. We weren't kidding when Obama's campain became a cult:
Comcast to Broadcast All-Obama Channel

For some reasom I keep picturing that the only people will watch this crap are a bunch of 27 year olds who still live in mommy and daddy's basement smoking pot and lighting candles around the t.v with a Che flag in the backgound.

You are describing CNN employees

238 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:50:23pm

re: #206 loppyd

Count me in.....shoot me an email!

I will, we need a list... BBev, Kosh, FBV, Bloodnok...I know there are more, gotta get the word out to them, also. I will shoot you an e-mail now...

239 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:50:25pm

re: #236 Guanxi88

And that weird thing with their heads!

LOL!

Was trying to figure out a way to put it.

240 Alaska Kim  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:50:43pm

re: #234 Creeping Eruption

Hmmmm . . . just got back from a meeting and noticed it is getting
chilly out. I made the mistake of checking my local forecast. I'm
thinking of taking work home with me for the next few days, grabbing my
snuggie and going into mild hibernation:

AN ARCTIC HIGH WILL PUSH INTO THE DAKOTAS TONIGHT...SENDING VERY
COLD AIR SOUTH INTO THE GREAT LAKES. THIS COLD AIR WILL REMAIN IN
PLACE FOR THE REST OF THE WEEK. AIR TEMPERATURES EXPECTED TONIGHT
THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT ARE THE COLDEST OBSERVED OVER SOUTHERN
WISCONSIN IN 13 YEARS.

LOW TEMPERATURES TONIGHT ARE EXPECTED TO DROP INTO THE LOW 20S
BELOW ZERO OVER MUCH OF SOUTH CENTRAL WISCONSIN...AROUND 18 BELOW
OVER SOUTHEAST WISCONSIN...AND AROUND 13 BELOW NEAR THE LAKE.
GUSTY NORTHWEST WINDS BETWEEN 10 TO 20 MPH WILL PRODUCE DANGEROUS WIND CHILL VALUES OF 35 TO 45 BELOW.

HIGH TEMPERATURES ON THURSDAY WILL STRUGGLE TO EVEN REACH
5 BELOW.
..DESPITE SUNSHINE. CONTINUED GUSTY NORTHWEST WINDS OF
10 TO 20 MPH WILL PRODUCE WIND CHILL VALUES AROUND 30 BELOW
THROUGHOUT MUCH OF THE DAY.

HIGH PRESSURE WILL SINK SOUTH INTO MISSOURI FOR THURSDAY NIGHT.
CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHTER WINDS WILL ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO PLUMMET INTO THE 20S BELOW MOST PLACES...EXCEPT
TEENS BELOW NEAR THE LAKE. SOME LOCATIONS IN THE WISCONSIN RIVER VALLEY
MAY REACH 30 BELOW. WIND CHILLS WILL AGAIN RANGE FROM 35 BELOW TO 45
BELOW.

You are getting that brutal cold snap that just left Alaska. Anchorage was in the minus double digits for almost 2 straight weeks.

241 zombie  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:50:54pm

re: #223 Alaska Kim

Yeah, and the land of the midnight sun!

Or, at this time of year: The Noon Moon!

242 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:51:09pm

re: #235 Kenneth

And those extra tall bowler hats the Bolivian women wear. You don't want to run out of those.

wonder if you can cook or wash up in those puppies like the old steel pot helmets?

243 conservativeChick  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:51:12pm

re: #237 faraway

Not that far off huh?

244 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:51:22pm
245 Alaska Kim  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:51:23pm

re: #236 Guanxi88

And that weird thing with their heads!

I haven't noticed that before!

246 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:51:38pm

re: #242 Outrider

wonder if you can cook or wash up in those puppies like the old steel pot helmets?

Don't think ya'd want to. Hell, bet they stink if you burn 'em.

247 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:51:45pm

re: #221 Outrider

wish I knew C++. GBasic and VisualBasic is the extent of my abilities. ;-)>

heh® ... when I look at new and different IDE's, I often make the same comment. I've been coding in C++ for 12 years.

248 avanti  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:51:59pm

re: #58 Jetpilot1101

We're due for 3 more inches of Global Warming tonight and tomorrow. This afternoon I'll be chipping the ice off my driveway so I can actually get the car in the garage and won't have to contend with snow covered ice tomorrow.

I'll try and avoid a climate change argument, but will point out a Alberta clipper out of the arctic is not climate change, it's a weather pattern. take last year as a example, coolest in 8 years but still in the top 10 warmest since 1880.
If we get a heat wave in May, that not necessarily global warming either, it's the trend over many years to watch.

249 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:52:14pm

re: #232 conservativeChick

ROSA SAT SO MARTIN COULD WALK

MARTIN WALKED SO OBAMA COULD RUN

OBAMA RAN SO OUR CHILDREN WILL FLY

/Big sign in window of Upper East clothing store.

Even my moonbat friend had to admit that it's effen weird.

250 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:52:26pm

re: #240 Alaska Kim

You are getting that brutal cold snap that just left Alaska. Anchorage was in the minus double digits for almost 2 straight weeks.

Its all Alaska's fault! Sun half of the year straight and this is the best you can send us?

251 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:52:42pm

re: #244 Iron Fist

My ex-wife was four foot, eleven and a half inches tall, and she would get pissed if you left that half inch off.

Us shorties need all the help we can get!

I am five foot one and three quarters inches tall. :)

252 Alaska Kim  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:52:47pm

re: #241 zombie

Or, at this time of year: The Noon Moon!

no kidding! The days are getting longer now though. Gets dark at about 4:15 rather than 3:15.

253 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:53:00pm

Somehow over the Christmas break, several articles of The Kid's uniform went missing--three pairs of pants out of six and three shirts out of seven. Just *poof*. High and low, to and fro, I've searched and searched. (I have my suspicions.) So this afternoon we're going to the uniform store for replacements. And, he wrote on his Nikes in red ink on the leather. Well, he's gonna' hafta' live with that. No way, no how am I replacing them.

*grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr*

Bbl if I don't go get arrested for throttling him first.

254 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:53:12pm

re: #247 jwb7605

heh® ... when I look at new and different IDE's, I often make the same comment. I've been coding in C++ for 12 years.

attempting to learn XHTML now. perhaps C++ is in the future?

255 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:53:18pm

re: #247 jwb7605

heh® ... when I look at new and different IDE's, I often make the same comment. I've been coding in C++ for 12 years.

Much truth in that post.

256 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:53:27pm

re: #231 jwb7605

Rebit is apparently using it for the "embedded" and "desktop appliance" part, too.
Without knowing what's connected to the disk drive, I don't know much about whether the job would be mostly host-side, and how much would be controller side. Embedded Linux or Windows CE might be at the device side.

At present, the user interface (PC host) is Windoze only.

they might be using this flavour of QT
[Link: www.qtsoftware.com...]

257 Dainn  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:53:33pm

re: #229 DeafDog

Hilarious. I can't wait for the Larry Flint version.

258 DeafDog  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:53:41pm

re: #232 conservativeChick

Wow. We weren't kidding when Obama's campain became a cult:
Comcast to Broadcast All-Obama Channel

For some reasom I keep picturing that the only people will watch this crap are a bunch of 27 year olds who still live in mommy and daddy's basement smoking pot and lighting candles around the t.v with a Che flag in the backgound.

I picture 1984

259 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:54:10pm

re: #206 loppyd

Count me in.....shoot me an email!

E-mail in your inbox

260 Alaska Kim  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:54:15pm

re: #250 Creeping Eruption

Its all Alaska's fault! Sun half of the year straight and this is the best you can send us?

Oh no, not another thing to blame on Palin!

261 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:54:15pm

re: #238 CapeCoddah

I will, we need a list... BBev, Kosh, FBV, Bloodnok...I know there are more, gotta get the word out to them, also. I will shoot you an e-mail now...

There are lots more. We need to send out an APB for MA/NE Lizardry

262 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:54:15pm

re: #252 Alaska Kim

no kidding! The days are getting longer now though. Gets dark at about 4:15 rather than 3:15.

Coppertone time!

263 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:54:16pm

re: #234 Creeping Eruption

Thankful to be in south TX. After an overnight temp of 38 we're at 67 degrees now. People are fishing in the bay right now catching reds and trout.

264 lobo91  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:54:23pm

re: #211 jorline

Could have been, I can't remember. I know there was a "Boss 302".

There was, indeed, a Mach 1 in 1969. My wife's uncle has one.

265 avanti  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:55:13pm

re: #237 faraway

You are describing CNN employees

I won't watch it, and I voted for the guy. Give me a TV channel like the POTUS station on XM that is ALL politics and I might tune in.

266 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:55:15pm

re: #224 loppyd

Your friend has his own lake?

He lives on one. But this time of year it may as well be his since nobody's ever out there. He's up in a town where a lot of residents are seasonal.

Ton of people on the lake in the spring and summer, but desolate in the winter. Only about 18 miles from me but at higher elevation so it's always about 10 degrees cooler up there.

If there's a ton of snow you can't do much, but if it's not so bad we can usually clear up enough space for a small hockey rink. Just watch out for those frozen pucks at high speed.

267 conservativeChick  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:55:19pm

re: #258 DeafDog

I was picturing that also. This is starting to feel more and more like a Orwell novel with each passing day. Scary.

268 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:55:29pm
269 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:55:39pm

re: #249 Ben Hur


OBAMA RAN SO OUR CHILDREN WILL FLY

/Big sign in window of Upper East clothing store.

What, is acid back in? 'Cause, I hate to tell ya, but no matter how much electric kool-aid you down, you ain't gonna fly.

270 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:56:13pm

OK, have to go pick up Junior. Later folks!

271 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:56:21pm

re: #256 buzzdroid

they might be using this flavour of QT
[Link: www.qtsoftware.com...]

That's the problem and/or opportunity. The suite looks good for any part of the product. I've done a bunch of embedded work, but I've always used a compiler for the particular chip. This smacks of an embedded Linux or Windows CE application. I've never done either of those.

272 offendi  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:56:22pm

On a change of topic, I am wondering what parts of the United States might remain safe to locate to now that Leon Panetta will be CIA chief?
Obviously NYC is out given that the Obama administration will interrogate terrorists with hot chocolate and cookies. Yes, no torture for our smooth-tongued future President. He will use his superior powers of persuasion on the zealous religious nuts that want to do a suitcase nuke in our cities.
That will certainly work. Wonder if it will be good to invest in companies that build bomb shelters, like I read about in the '60s.
Thank you you brilliant Obama voters. Yes, I know who you are, I see your bumper sticker on the Volvo. I hope the cost of your brie goes up when President Lincoln light is in office.

273 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:56:23pm

re: #260 Alaska Kim

Someone will

274 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:56:23pm

re: #267 conservativeChick

I was picturing that also. This is starting to feel more and more like a Orwell novel with each passing day. Scary.

That's a slur! Orwell was a damned fine author; he'd never try to float crap like this.

275 Soona'  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:56:26pm

re: #236 Guanxi88

And that weird thing with their heads!

And the way they're always picking their noses.
/

276 nyc redneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:56:46pm

re: #249 Ben Hur

ROSA SAT SO MARTIN COULD WALK

MARTIN WALKED SO OBAMA COULD RUN

OBAMA RAN SO OUR CHILDREN WILL FLY

/Big sign in window of Upper East clothing store.

Even my moonbat friend had to admit that it's effen weird.

that is pathetic and frightening.
they have surrendered completely to him.

277 Alaska Kim  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:57:05pm

re: #262 karmic_inquisitor

Coppertone time!

Naw. Seal oil!

278 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:57:12pm

re: #263 jorline

Thankful to be in south TX. After an overnight temp of 38 we're at 67 degrees now. People are fishing in the bay right now catching reds and trout.

Hey - plenty of people are fishing here too. You just need an ice auger to drill through a foot of ice to get at the fish.

279 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:57:28pm

re: #253 MandyManners

Oh the joys of parenthood. ;>}

280 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:57:28pm

re: #232 conservativeChick

Wow. We weren't kidding when Obama's campain became a cult:
Comcast to Broadcast All-Obama Channel

For some reasom I keep picturing that the only people will watch this crap are a bunch of 27 year olds who still live in mommy and daddy's basement smoking pot and lighting candles around the t.v with a Che flag in the backgound.

The channel will watch you.

281 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:57:30pm
282 winston06  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:57:41pm

A good piece on Canada's support for Israel

[Link: www.nationalpost.com...]

283 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:57:43pm

re: #240 Alaska Kim

Looks warm to me.

284 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:57:46pm

re: #253 MandyManners

Somehow over the Christmas break, several articles of The Kid's uniform went missing--three pairs of pants out of six and three shirts out of seven. Just *poof*. High and low, to and fro, I've searched and searched. (I have my suspicions.) So this afternoon we're going to the uniform store for replacements. And, he wrote on his Nikes in red ink on the leather. Well, he's gonna' hafta' live with that. No way, no how am I replacing them.

*grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr*

Bbl if I don't go get arrested for throttling him first.

Mandy, a product called GONZO will take the ink out. If you cant find it in the laundry aisle, look on the web. Miracle stuff, never without it.

285 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:57:50pm

re: #253 MandyManners

Somehow over the Christmas break, several articles of The Kid's uniform went missing--three pairs of pants out of six and three shirts out of seven. Just *poof*. High and low, to and fro, I've searched and searched. (I have my suspicions.) So this afternoon we're going to the uniform store for replacements. And, he wrote on his Nikes in red ink on the leather. Well, he's gonna' hafta' live with that. No way, no how am I replacing them.

*grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr*

Bbl if I don't go get arrested for throttling him first.

Mandy, use a dab of saddle soap on his Nikes. It will come off. I had a whole sharpee explode on one of our leather saddles and it took it right off.

286 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:57:54pm

re: #280 Kosh's Shadow

The channel will watch you.

In Soviet America....

287 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:58:10pm

re: #264 lobo91

There was, indeed, a Mach 1 in 1969. My wife's uncle has one.

Sweeeeeeeeeettttttttt!

288 DeafDog  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:58:20pm

re: #269 Guanxi88

What, is acid back in? 'Cause, I hate to tell ya, but no matter how much electric kool-aid you down, you ain't gonna fly.

Communism spreads the wealth misery, Comrade.

289 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:58:37pm

re: #261 loppyd

There are lots more. We need to send out an APB for MA/NE Lizardry

Thats what I thought. We can keep announcing it every couple of hours here.

290 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:58:52pm

re: #278 Creeping Eruption

Hey - plenty of people are fishing here too. You just need an ice auger to drill through a foot of ice to get at the fish.

lmao

291 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:59:06pm

re: #282 winston06

A good piece on Canada's support for Israel

[Link: www.nationalpost.com...]

Dammit! If we can't make fun of the Canadians, who's left?

Still, nice going, Harper. You sure you're not really an American?

292 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:59:40pm

re: #191 buzzdroid

gaza cam is up and running this evening...

[Link: switch434-01.castup.net...]

[Link: switch206-01.castup.net...]

Like watching paint dry, when paint's applied with a paintball gun. /

293 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 12:59:58pm

re: #272 offendi

On a change of topic, I am wondering what parts of the United States might remain safe to locate to now that Leon Panetta will be CIA chief?
Obviously NYC is out given that the Obama administration will interrogate terrorists with hot chocolate and cookies. Yes, no torture for our smooth-tongued future President. He will use his superior powers of persuasion on the zealous religious nuts that want to do a suitcase nuke in our cities.
That will certainly work. Wonder if it will be good to invest in companies that build bomb shelters, like I read about in the '60s.
Thank you you brilliant Obama voters. Yes, I know who you are, I see your bumper sticker on the Volvo. I hope the cost of your brie goes up when President Lincoln light is in office.

Wyoming, if you're worried about terroristas. Cheyenne has an Air Force base, but the state is surrounded on 3 sides by true flyover country.

Southern border is Colorado, but the eastern part of the state can no longer be termed "fly-over".

294 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:00:00pm

re: #272 offendi

On a change of topic, I am wondering what parts of the United States might remain safe to locate to now that Leon Panetta will be CIA chief?
Obviously NYC is out given that the Obama administration will interrogate terrorists with hot chocolate and cookies. Yes, no torture for our smooth-tongued future President. He will use his superior powers of persuasion on the zealous religious nuts that want to do a suitcase nuke in our cities.
That will certainly work. Wonder if it will be good to invest in companies that build bomb shelters, like I read about in the '60s.
Thank you you brilliant Obama voters. Yes, I know who you are, I see your bumper sticker on the Volvo. I hope the cost of your brie goes up when President Lincoln light is in office.

Just make sure they don't put marshmallows in the Hot Chocolate. I'm almost certain that the Koran strictly prohibits marshmallow....
Oh and I almost forgot. No pork cookies. Those are right out......
/

295 filetandrelease  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:00:13pm

re: #234 Creeping Eruption


Damn, it is suppose to get close to 40 here tonight. Bums me out, can't ride the Harley home.

296 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:00:13pm

Here is a blast from the (recent) past-

Earth Warming Past Point Of No Return


20 January, 2006
The Independent

The world has already passed the point of no return for climate change, and civilisation as we know it is now unlikely to survive, according to James Lovelock, the scientist and green guru who conceived the idea of Gaia - the Earth which keeps itself fit for life.

In a profoundly pessimistic new assessment, published in today's Independent, Professor Lovelock suggests that efforts to counter global warming cannot succeed, and that, in effect, it is already too late.

The world and human society face disaster to a worse extent, and on a faster timescale, than almost anybody realises, he believes. He writes: " Before this century is over, billions of us will die, and the few breeding pairs of people that survive will be in the Arctic where the climate remains tolerable."

Maybe I lead a "sheltered" life, but I can't imagine going outdoors in the Arctic right now and breeding.

297 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:00:26pm

re: #266 JammieWearingFool

Sounds great!

Just watch out for those frozen pucks at high speed.

My brother took a puck in the face during a pick up pond hockey game back when we were kids. I've never seen so much blood.

298 bulwrk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:01:04pm

re: #291 Guanxi88

Dammit! If we can't make fun of the Canadians, who's left?

We'll always have the French.

299 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:01:10pm

re: #291 Guanxi88

Dammit! If we can't make fun of the Canadians, who's left?

Still, nice going, Harper. You sure you're not really an American?

Shhh.... the Liberals & NDP are always saying Harper is American and wants to turn Canada into the 51st state.

300 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:01:16pm

re: #289 CapeCoddah

Thats what I thought. We can keep announcing it every couple of hours here.

OK!

Replied to your email, BTW.

301 lobo91  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:01:18pm

re: #268 Iron Fist

I'm going to really piss off the Mesiah and the Donks if we get another "stimulus" check. Which should I spend it on, guns, knives, or tattoos? Just doing my part to contribute to the GDP :-)

Last I heard, they were talking about lowering the withholding by an amount equal to either $500 or $1000 (depending on whether you're single or married), spread over the entire year.

In other words, you'd actually see about $83 (or $41) a month extra in your paychecks.

302 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:01:19pm

re: #292 lawhawk

Like watching paint dry, when paint's applied with a paintball gun. /

LO - Is that thunder I hear? Nope, don't think so.

303 conservativeChick  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:01:57pm

re: #274 Guanxi88

I didn't mean it like that. I meant that Obama and folwers are becoming more and more cult like with each passing day. Pretty soon we might all be force like Winston Smith's to be force to love Obama. That what I meant by scary.

304 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:02:08pm

re: #296 karmic_inquisitor

The idiocy of James Lovelock is past the point of no return.

305 offendi  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:02:14pm

re: #274 Guanxi88

The Road to Wigan Pier, I think it was, was pretty good.

Orwell pretty much nailed the liberal democrats that will now sadly run this country as a futurist of sorts.

Yes, some pigs are more equal than others.

306 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:02:17pm

re: #295 filetandrelease

Damn, it is suppose to get close to 40 here tonight. Bums me out, can't ride the Harley home.

Drink enough while sitting in your deluxe ice fishing shack, and I guarantee you there will be some idiot who drives his Harley home tonight.

307 Sunlight  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:02:22pm

re: #179 Ben Hur

Bolivia severs ties with Israel over Gaza

This really hurts.

What will Israel do without all of Bolivia's technological developements?

Their leading research in agriculture, science, cancer research, child care, etc etc.

What will Israel do without all the information that Bolivian astronauts bring back from shuttle missions?

I mean, does this mean Israel can't use Bolivia's satellites anymore?

What if Bolivian university professors stop sharing their knowledge with Tel Aviv University, Hebrew University, Technion, etc etc?

Devolution has begun in ISrael!

As Aussie Dave (6:50pm) says, "We'll really miss the... coke?"

308 Alaska Kim  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:02:36pm

re: #296 karmic_inquisitor

Here is a blast from the (recent) past-

Earth Warming Past Point Of No Return

Maybe I lead a "sheltered" life, but I can't imagine going outdoors in the Arctic right now and breeding.

It ain't so bad! It helps to have a hot tub on your back deck though!

309 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:02:41pm

Holla at the lizards.
How y'all be?

310 smokefire  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:03:02pm

re: #261 loppyd

loppy,
We, myself, and other half (vagabondtrader),are CT. lizards. Just a hop, skip, and jump from MA/RI, right up there in Northeast corner of CT. We would like to attend the NE. Lizards convention/jamboree/convocation/confab.
Whatever it is to be called. Who do we contact for this?

311 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:04:21pm

re: #295 filetandrelease

Damn, it is suppose to get close to 40 here tonight. Bums me out, can't ride the Harley home.

Get you some Widders.

312 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:04:35pm

All right, I've gotta ask:

What name befits this strange new beast, slouching toward DC to be born?

The nation of his acolytes and worshippers, shall we call it, as others have, "obamanation"? Seems kinda lame. I'm up for suggestions.

313 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:04:52pm

re: #39 zombie

There sure as hell ain't gonna be no cigarette trees on Big Obama Mountain.

They will just bonsai the cigar trees.

314 sattv4u2  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:04:59pm

re: #261 loppyd

don;t forget me! Even though I'm in Georgia, I'm from Mass and go "home" often to visit the parents and other relatives. Depending on when/ where you have it I'd love to come

315 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:05:01pm

re: #298 bulwrk

Dammit! If we can't make fun of the Canadians, who's left?

We'll always have the French.

True, but we won't always have Paris.

316 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:05:18pm

re: #308 Alaska Kim

It ain't so bad! It helps to have a hot tub on your back deck though!

Yeah, all that consternation about global warming and we have the first victim. Woman dies after stressing over having to take a second mortgage to make her home eco-friendly.

317 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:05:20pm

re: #310 smokefire

loppy,
We, myself, and other half (vagabondtrader),are CT. lizards. Just a hop, skip, and jump from MA/RI, right up there in Northeast corner of CT. We would like to attend the NE. Lizards convention/jamboree/convocation/confab.
Whatever it is to be called. Who do we contact for this?

Excellent! For now, email CapeCoddah and give her your contact info and we'll go from there.

CapeCoddah - you have my permission to give my email to anyone wanting to attend.

318 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:05:38pm

re: #282 winston06

A good piece on Canada's support for Israel

[Link: www.nationalpost.com...]

Hooray Harper!

(I guess we can't sing "Blame Canada" any more ;~)

319 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:06:03pm

re: #314 sattv4u2

don;t forget me! Even though I'm in Georgia, I'm from Mass and go "home" often to visit the parents and other relatives. Depending on when/ where you have it I'd love to come

Yay! Excellent! See my 317...

320 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:06:22pm

re: #300 loppyd

OK!

Replied to your email, BTW.

Got it, replied back!

321 VioletTiger  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:06:36pm

re: #240 Alaska Kim

You are getting that brutal cold snap that just left Alaska. Anchorage was in the minus double digits for almost 2 straight weeks.

You could have kept it up there, no need to share ;)

322 3 wood  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:06:36pm

re: #268 Iron Fist

I'm going to really piss off the Mesiah and the Donks if we get another "stimulus" check. Which should I spend it on, guns, knives, or tattoos? Just doing my part to contribute to the GDP :-)

Oh, you won't see a dime of it. This "stimulus" will be pork projects, welfare handouts to the Democratic party base, and nationalized health care. The public works projects will hit just about the time the economy grows out of this anyway, and then we will have one heck of an inflationary run.

323 offendi  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:06:47pm

re: #293 jwb7605

Certainly something to consider. If the democrats can't handle Blago, how can they even begin to handle terrorists?

324 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:07:01pm

re: #312 Guanxi88

The nation of his acolytes and worshippers


Obamatrons?

325 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:07:02pm

re: #317 loppyd

Excellent! For now, email CapeCoddah and give her your contact info and we'll go from there.

CapeCoddah - you have my permission to give my email to anyone wanting to attend.

Every lizard is welcome!

326 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:07:24pm

re: #316 lawhawk

Yeah, all that consternation about global warming and we have the first victim. Woman dies after stressing over having to take a second mortgage to make her home eco-friendly.

Hey - at least she won't have to witness our Inevitable War With Canada caused by Global Warming.

327 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:07:28pm
328 sattv4u2  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:07:34pm

oh ,, ,goody ,, a Pali talking head!

329 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:07:42pm

Judge lets Bernard Madoff remain free


A Manhattan federal judge has refused to revoke Bernard Madoff’s $10 million bail, allowing the accused Wall Street swindler man to remain free.

U.S. District Court Judge Lawrence McKenna this afternoon upheld a federal magistrate’s Monday decision to let Madoff stay essentially under house arrest.

330 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:08:03pm

re: #324 redstateredneck

Obamatrons?

Eh, heard it already. I'm looking for a name that captures the:

sloth, stupidity, cupidity, ignorance, avarice, poor hygiene, blind faith in anything but G-d, etc.

331 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:08:04pm

re: #317 loppyd

Excellent! For now, email CapeCoddah and give her your contact info and we'll go from there.

CapeCoddah - you have my permission to give my email to anyone wanting to attend.

Same here, Loppy, give mine to anyone who needs it, you can give my business # also, as it is no secret.

332 3 wood  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:08:08pm

re: #212 faraway

Market Up: Obama said...
Market Down: Weather was bad...

If the market drops it's Bush's fault. He's the new Hoover.

333 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:08:19pm

those darn guns are out of control again...

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

334 spidly  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:08:39pm

SWEET!
You can get an al Jiz news widget!

install and hope it doesn't launch a jihad on the kernal.

335 Alaska Kim  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:08:40pm

re: #321 VioletTiger

You could have kept it up there, no need to share ;)

That was really, really cold. We were ready for it to leave. Today it is 45 degrees.

336 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:08:41pm

re: #268 Iron Fist

I'm going to really piss off the Mesiah and the Donks if we get another "stimulus" check. Which should I spend it on, guns, knives, or tattoos? Just doing my part to contribute to the GDP :-)

I vote tattoo. ;-)>

337 Cathypop  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:08:41pm

re: #312 Guanxi88

All right, I've gotta ask:

What name befits this strange new beast, slouching toward DC to be born?

The nation of his acolytes and worshippers, shall we call it, as others have, "obamanation"? Seems kinda lame. I'm up for suggestions.


El Crapp-O

338 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:08:49pm

re: #324 redstateredneck

Obamatrons?

Hey there! How's things in the deep South?

339 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:09:14pm

re: #325 CapeCoddah

I love your avatar! Ready to ride.
:-)

340 sattv4u2  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:09:21pm

re: #336 Outrider

I vote tattoo. ;-)>

De Plane,,, De Plane!

341 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:09:37pm

re: #322 3 wood

Oh, you won't see a dime of it. This "stimulus" will be pork projects, welfare handouts to the Democratic party base, and nationalized health care. The public works projects will hit just about the time the economy grows out of this anyway, and then we will have one heck of an inflationary run.

I am so glad that we have pulled out the 1930's "solution" guide to economics. If there are enough Americans sentimental for the Great Depression then we will have one.

342 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:09:38pm

re: #249 Ben Hur

You should mail that image to the Grand Poobah.

343 Alaska Kim  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:10:03pm

re: #330 Guanxi88

Obamatards.

344 3 wood  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:10:24pm

re: #222 Ben Hur

Investors from New York to Sao Paulo grew less pessimistic about stocks over the next six months on speculation a U.S. stimulus plan and the lowest interest rates on record will revive the global economy, a survey of Bloomberg users showed.

English?

Not ready to jump off the bridge anymore.

345 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:10:35pm
346 Cathypop  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:10:36pm

re: #343 Alaska Kim

Obamatards.

ObamaTurds

347 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:10:51pm

re: #330 Guanxi88

Eh, heard it already. I'm looking for a name that captures the:

sloth, stupidity, cupidity, ignorance, avarice, poor hygiene, blind faith in anything but G-d, etc.

Thinking...thinking...

348 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:11:00pm

re: #335 Alaska Kim

That was really, really cold. We were ready for it to leave. Today it is 45 degrees.


I don't know how you all live with those winter temps and only minutes of daylight.

349 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:11:02pm

re: #164 godfrey

TWPS

Teenie Weeny Peenie Syndrome.

350 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:11:06pm

re: #298 bulwrk

Dammit! If we can't make fun of the Canadians, who's left?

We'll always have the French.

seems like we will ~always~ have the Fwench. ;-)>

351 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:11:39pm

re: #309 redstateredneck

F*cking freezing today.

352 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:11:42pm

Ricardo Montalban died?

353 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:11:49pm

re: #327 buzzsawmonkey

Well, then, the hell with it: drill NOW. I'm buying an SUV, cranking the thermostat, and throwing the windows open. No more recycling, and a kick in the nether regions to anyone who suggests it. Screw public transportation.

Don't forget to breed with abandon (or at least practice breeding).

"Billions will die by the end of the century" is my favorite assertion - how is it that the 6 or so Billion alive today could survive this century? Not many 135 year olds walking around.

354 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:11:52pm

re: #327 buzzsawmonkey

Here Here ..if we're spinning to extinction, let's not screw around. Full steam ahead. I might go start my truck up and let it idle, just because.

355 midwestgak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:12:09pm

re: #309 redstateredneck

Holla at the lizards.
How y'all be?

Hey red - is it my turn? Can't access the gameboard from here.

356 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:12:09pm

re: #336 Outrider

I vote tattoo. ;-)>

could always endorse the check over to the GOP and let them cash it. ;-)>

357 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:12:16pm

re: #339 redstateredneck

I love your avatar! Ready to ride.
:-)

Thanks! He is my sweetie!

358 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:12:18pm

re: #351 WriterMom

F*cking freezing today.

Quit yer bitching. :)

359 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:12:21pm

re: #351 WriterMom

F*cking freezing today.

Hell, it's even cold here in the deeeep south. Down in the 20's this morning.

360 sattv4u2  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:12:35pm

re: #348 newsjunkie_ky

I don't know how you all live with those winter temps and only minutes of daylight.

lemme think ,, lemme think ,, what would me and my wife/ girlfreind/ significant other do to A) stay warm and B) do in the dark !

lemme think ,, lemme think !

361 lobo91  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:12:54pm

re: #330 Guanxi88

Eh, heard it already. I'm looking for a name that captures the:

sloth, stupidity, cupidity, ignorance, avarice, poor hygiene, blind faith in anything but G-d, etc.

I was going to suggest "Democrats," but that's already taken...

362 Spider Mensch  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:12:55pm

...

363 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:12:56pm

From their own mouths:

Hamas using children in combat support roles

Not that 'Dr' Mads will ever say so ...

364 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:13:12pm

What's the soundtrack on Gazacam today? Sounds like Drums from a Grateul Dead concert ca. 1983.

365 filetandrelease  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:13:14pm

re: #311 redstateredneck

Sweet, just might. But then I would never drive my truck.

366 Soona'  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:13:19pm

re: #343 Alaska Kim

Obamatards.

Or just 'bamatards.

367 Alaska Kim  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:13:26pm

re: #348 newsjunkie_ky

I don't know how you all live with those winter temps and only minutes of daylight.

Well, I live in SE Alaska, so our weather isn't usually as brutal as further north. And even on our shortest days, we have daylight for about 6 hours.

All the fishing, hunting and pristine beauty keeps me here. The wildlife and northern lights, etc.

368 smokefire  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:13:28pm

re: #320 CapeCoddah

Cape, just emailed you re:meeting.

Be Safe

369 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:13:30pm

re: #326 karmic_inquisitor

Hey - at least she won't have to witness our Inevitable War With Canada caused by Global Warming.

After delaing with the Canadian menace we'll need to watch out for those godammed Icelanders. Devious little bastards......
/

370 3 wood  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:13:36pm

re: #272 offendi

On a change of topic, I am wondering what parts of the United States might remain safe to locate to now that Leon Panetta will be CIA chief?
Obviously NYC is out given that the Obama administration will interrogate terrorists with hot chocolate and cookies. Yes, no torture for our smooth-tongued future President. He will use his superior powers of persuasion on the zealous religious nuts that want to do a suitcase nuke in our cities.
That will certainly work.

I don't know but you better find it quick. I figure we got no more than 6 months until they hit us again.

371 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:13:40pm

re: #360 sattv4u2

lemme think ,, lemme think ,, what would me and my wife/ girlfreind/ significant other do to A) stay warm and B) do in the dark !

lemme think ,, lemme think !

watch TV?

372 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:13:48pm

It's so cold, the chickens are laying frozen eggs.

373 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:13:52pm

PEACEKEEPER I SEE THAT DING

/you can run, but you can't hide

374 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:14:12pm

re: #359 redstateredneck

Hell, it's even cold here in the deeeep south. Down in the 20's this morning.

And still pretty cool this afternoon!
I'm loving it.

375 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:14:12pm

re: #364 Who Watches the Watchmen?

What's the soundtrack on Gazacam today? Sounds like Drums from a Grateul Dead concert ca. 1983.

winds are up sounds like.

376 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:14:28pm

re: #345 Iron Fist

This is just bad science fiction, with a heavy emphasis on the fuiction part. The truth is all these so-called "climatologists" can't predict what the weather will be like two weeks from now, but they are claiming that they know what it will be like in 100 years.

Yeah, that's believable. Sure. And of course the only solution is to destroy the American economy. Yep, gotcha.

We'll get right on that...

Somebody should lock this lunatic up. He is clearly a danger to himself and others.

I take your suggestion seriously....almost...subverting the economy by mental hysteria and tossing it over to commies...there oughta be a law

377 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:14:28pm

PIMF.....delaing = dealing

378 itellu3times  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:14:32pm

re: #363 yma o hyd

From their own mouths:

Hamas using children in combat support roles

Not that 'Dr' Mads will ever say so ...

The ummah is at war. This is not news.

379 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:14:33pm

Comcast to Broadcast All-Obama Channel

Has your life been empty since November 4 when the Dish Network ceased broadcasting all Obama all the time on Channel 73? Not to worry. Comcast is about to fulfill all the spiritual yearnings of you Barack Obama acolytes by broadcasting all Obama all the time leading into the inauguration so you won't have a minute of your day or night alone without The One as reported by Michael Calderone at Politico:

Do you need Obama coverage 24 hours a day? In several markets, Comcast cable is launching an all-Obama, On Demand channel. (In D.C., it's channel 963).

Leading up to Inauguration, the channel will offer a number of Obama-related programs, according to a release: "Barack Obama’s most famous speeches to date, from his keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in 2004 through his election night victory speech in Grant Park; Barack Obama biography; Michelle Obama’s 2008 Democratic National Convention speech; a tour of the White House; and the history of Air Force One."

/and he hasn't even worked any miracles yet

380 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:14:36pm

re: #358 loppyd

LOL. Lopps, I am telling you...it's colder than Dr. Mads feelings about Jews and Israel.

381 DaddyG  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:14:38pm

re: #330 Guanxi88

Eh, heard it already. I'm looking for a name that captures the:

sloth, stupidity, cupidity, ignorance, avarice, poor hygiene, blind faith in anything but G-d, etc.

The Zero values crowd?

382 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:14:42pm

re: #364 Who Watches the Watchmen?

What's the soundtrack on Gazacam today? Sounds like Drums from a Grateul Dead concert ca. 1983.

Blues for Allah?

383 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:14:44pm

re: #373 WriterMom

PEACEKEEPER I SEE THAT DING

/you can run, but you can't hide

It's always someding with you isn't it?

And where's that fooking OR?

384 smokefire  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:14:57pm

re: #358 loppyd

Quit yer bitching. :)

Helllooooo, It's winter in New England, what do you expect dear. Just think..............only a month and change until Spring Training, and Jim Rice is in the Hall.

385 Desert Dog  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:15:07pm

re: #363 yma o hyd

From their own mouths:

Hamas using children in combat support roles

Not that 'Dr' Mads will ever say so ...

They have hammered nothing but hatred and death into those kids since they day they were born...

386 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:15:13pm

re: #333 albusteve

those darn guns are out of control again...

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

That's worse than dropping your cell phone into the toilet ;-)

387 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:15:13pm

re: #355 midwestgak

Hey red - is it my turn? Can't access the gameboard from here.

{Gak}! You'll be up when you get home. It's fun, huh?

388 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:15:18pm

re: #368 smokefire

Cape, just emailed you re:meeting.

Be Safe

I will, looking now..

389 Sunlight  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:15:22pm

Has somebody already put this up?

390 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:15:33pm

re: #364 Who Watches the Watchmen?

What's the soundtrack on Gazacam today? Sounds like Drums from a Grateul Dead concert ca. 1983.

Actually not too far off. The Rhythm Devils (the Dead's two drummers) did much of the soundtrack for Apocalypse Now including the bombing scenes.

391 sattv4u2  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:15:37pm

re: #379 Killian Bundy

Comcast to Broadcast All-Obama Channel


/and he hasn't even worked any miracles yet

Yes he has. He turned millions of voters into beleivers!@

392 3 wood  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:15:42pm

re: #341 karmic_inquisitor

I am so glad that we have pulled out the 1930's "solution" guide to economics. If there are enough Americans sentimental for the Great Depression then we will have one.

I just hope we can avoid the World War, but I have my doubts.

393 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:15:45pm

re: #366 Soona'

Or just 'bamatards.

That may offend Alabama residents.

394 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:15:48pm

re: #380 WriterMom

LOL. Lopps, I am telling you...it's colder than Dr. Mads feelings about Jews and Israel.

It's colder than a plumber's brass ballcock.

395 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:15:48pm

re: #360 sattv4u2

lemme think ,, lemme think ,, what would me and my wife/ girlfreind/ significant other do to A) stay warm and B) do in the dark !

lemme think ,, lemme think !

Hot chocolate and a roaring fire?

396 Pyrocles  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:16:00pm

Damn. So Barry will only bestow the gift of flight to our children?! I want to fly TOO, damnit!

re: #249 Ben Hur

ROSA SAT SO MARTIN COULD WALK

MARTIN WALKED SO OBAMA COULD RUN

OBAMA RAN SO OUR CHILDREN WILL FLY

/Big sign in window of Upper East clothing store.

Even my moonbat friend had to admit that it's effen weird.

397 offendi  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:16:01pm

re: #312 Guanxi88

All right, I've gotta ask:

What name befits this strange new beast, slouching toward DC to be born?

The nation of his acolytes and worshippers, shall we call it, as others have, "obamanation"? Seems kinda lame. I'm up for suggestions.

I think the best course of action is to get in touch with the Scientologists. They are no doubt pissed that so many of their Hollywood acolytes were/are Obama supporters. And cultish "religious" groups don't like competition. I am sure they will put in a bad word to Xenu that this Obama cult thing isn't "kosher" as Obama is being portrayed as the new Messiah. Plus you don't want to tick Tom Cruise off.

398 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:16:17pm

re: #370 3 wood

I don't know but you better find it quick. I figure we got no more than 6 months until they hit us again.

True. I think we will see a major strike before the year is out that will make 9/11 pale in comparison. I'm also thinking it will come by sea, as in a ship entering a harbor. just an opinion.

399 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:16:29pm

re: #382 Kosh's Shadow

Blues for Allah?

Lots of Blues for Allah these days. LOL

400 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:16:30pm

re: #272 offendi

On a change of topic, I am wondering what parts of the United States might remain safe to locate to now that Leon Panetta will be CIA chief?
Obviously NYC is out given that the Obama administration will interrogate terrorists with hot chocolate and cookies. Yes, no torture for our smooth-tongued future President. He will use his superior powers of persuasion on the zealous religious nuts that want to do a suitcase nuke in our cities.
That will certainly work. Wonder if it will be good to invest in companies that build bomb shelters, like I read about in the '60s.
Thank you you brilliant Obama voters. Yes, I know who you are, I see your bumper sticker on the Volvo. I hope the cost of your brie goes up when President Lincoln light is in office.

Berkeley, CA would probably be safe. Terrorists would figure it's already in the bag......
Bastards.

401 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:16:42pm

re: #383 Peacekeeper

Hehehehehehheeh...yes-my long lost gentile twin brother is conspiciously absent this afternoon.

Anyway-what are you complaining about? Most men would be delighted that their ding attracts my immediate attention.

402 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:16:54pm

re: #392 3 wood

I just hope we can avoid the World War, but I have my doubts.

How can we avoid it? The war has already started; most people just don't realize it yet.

403 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:16:59pm

re: #360 sattv4u2

lemme think ,, lemme think ,, what would me and my wife/ girlfreind/ significant other do to A) stay warm and B) do in the dark !

lemme think ,, lemme think !


"Johnny always says you can just drink so much and screw so much." --Slap Shot

404 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:17:03pm

re: #374 reine.de.tout

And still pretty cool this afternoon!
I'm loving it.

The dachshund pack make quick trips outside and then run back in. They really hate cold weather!

405 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:17:10pm

re: #397 offendi

I think the best course of action is to get in touch with the Scientologists. They are no doubt pissed that so many of their Hollywood acolytes were/are Obama supporters. And cultish "religious" groups don't like competition. I am sure they will put in a bad word to Xenu that this Obama cult thing isn't "kosher" as Obama is being portrayed as the new Messiah. Plus you don't want to tick Tom Cruise off.

Eh, all they do is sue people.

406 spidly  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:17:17pm

re: #351 WriterMom

F*cking freezing today.

you are not feeling the freezing!
globa' warmin' is cooking you.

407 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:17:20pm

I got good news & bad news from the local comic book store. The good news, the new G.I. JOE series, written by noted conservative comic book writer Chuck Dixon, hit the shelves today. The bad news is that the Spider-Man meets Obama issue sold out in 10 minutes & the phone hasn't stopped ringing from people asking for it.

408 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:17:23pm

re: #379 Killian Bundy

Comcast to Broadcast All-Obama Channel

/and he hasn't even worked any miracles yet

hell, he hasn't even taken his first dump in the presidential loo yet.

409 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:17:39pm

re: #401 WriterMom

Hehehehehehheeh...yes-my long lost gentile twin brother is conspiciously absent this afternoon.

Anyway-what are you complaining about? Most men would be delighted that their ding attracts my immediate attention.

Dang!

410 Texas Heathen  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:17:45pm

re: #330 Guanxi88

Lemmings?

411 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:17:54pm

re: #384 smokefire

Helllooooo, It's winter in New England, what do you expect dear. Just think..............only a month and change until Spring Training, and Jim Rice is in the Hall.

Good times, good times.

412 Alaska Kim  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:18:05pm

re: #398 Outrider

True.
I think we will see a major strike before the year is out that will
make 9/11 pale in comparison. I'm also thinking it will come by sea, as
in a ship entering a harbor. just an opinion.

We have plenty of room in Alaska. Kinda cold for lizards though!

413 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:18:17pm

re: #410 Texas Heathen

Lemmings?

There! I think something along those lines. I'll keep the little grey cells churning away.

414 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:18:28pm

re: #367 Alaska Kim

Well, I live in SE Alaska, so our weather isn't usually as brutal as further north. And even on our shortest days, we have daylight for about 6 hours.

All the fishing, hunting and pristine beauty keeps me here. The wildlife and northern lights, etc.


I have always wanted to visit but don't know if I could take that much cold. One day I will get there, it is one of my goals.

415 sattv4u2  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:18:37pm

re: #408 Outrider

hell, he hasn't even taken his first dump in the presidential loo yet.

Please. You really the The One does something as pedestrian as that !?!?!

416 3 wood  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:18:45pm

re: #402 Kosh's Shadow

How can we avoid it? The war has already started; most people just don't realize it yet.

Obama is going to try to surrender and walk away hoping we are left alone, but I don't think it will work.

417 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:18:55pm

re: #399 Creeping Eruption

Lots of Blues for Allah these days. LOL

ha...Rockin Hamas in the Gaza...
doin the Jihad Jitterbug...

418 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:19:01pm

re: #380 WriterMom

LOL. Lopps, I am telling you...it's colder than Dr. Mads feelings about Jews and Israel.

Damn. That's some serious mo fo cold then.

419 midwestgak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:19:01pm

re: #387 redstateredneck

{Gak}! You'll be up when you get home. It's fun, huh?

Yes it is. I'm starting to play around with some of the neat lists and the dictionary and bingo thingy.

420 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:19:05pm

re: #406 spidly

Listen mister-do a quick calculation mmmmkay.

It's a high of -16 CELSIUS here today, without the wind chill factor.

The wind chill is making it feel like -32 CELSIUS.

421 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:19:05pm

re: #330 Guanxi88

Eh, heard it already. I'm looking for a name that captures the:

sloth, stupidity, cupidity, ignorance, avarice, poor hygiene, blind faith in anything but G-d, etc.

Oh, I don't know.......what about commie bastards?

422 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:19:20pm

re: #391 sattv4u2

Yes he has. He turned millions of voters into beleivers!

That's not a miracle.

/he just ran a ginormous bait and switch scam on every single moron in the United States

423 sattv4u2  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:19:34pm

re: #414 newsjunkie_ky

I have always wanted to visit but don't know if I could take that much cold. One day I will get there, it is one of my goals.

It's AMAZING. I took a summer cruise there. Two words

DO IT!

424 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:19:40pm

re: #368 smokefire

Cape, just emailed you re:meeting.

Be Safe

Smoke, Just replied to you

425 Alaska Kim  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:19:48pm

re: #414 newsjunkie_ky

I have always wanted to visit but don't know if I could take that much cold. One day I will get there, it is one of my goals.

Come in May, June or July. That's the best time. Bring your fishing pole!

426 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:20:04pm

re: #420 WriterMom

Listen mister-do a quick calculation mmmmkay.

It's a high of -16 CELSIUS here today, without the wind chill factor.

The wind chill is making it feel like -32 CELSIUS.

You know what I say when people talk about the cold? Render unto celsius that which is celsius'...

427 Sunlight  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:20:09pm

389 is a video from the IDF Spokesperson showing a night op.

428 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:20:14pm

re: #420 WriterMom

Listen mister-do a quick calculation mmmmkay.

It's a high of -16 CELSIUS here today, without the wind chill factor.

The wind chill is making it feel like -32 CELSIUS.

/Celsius? Is it time for some Canada jokes?

429 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:20:17pm

re: #410 Texas Heathen

Lemmings?

You know what you do when you have lemmings?
You make lemmingade....
:)

430 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:20:19pm

re: #421 LGoPs

Oh, I don't know.......what about commie bastards?

Naah! See, a commie, at least, has some concrete beliefs he shares with others. These guys are all over the map, and yet they're all together, and they're sure the One agrees with them in all respects. This is a much more difficult pathology.

431 3 wood  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:20:23pm

re: #384 smokefire

only a month and change until Spring Training, and Jim Rice is in the Hall.

He was so strong I saw him once snap his bat on a checked swing.

Frank Howard was like that.

432 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:20:24pm

re: #410 Texas Heathen

{Heathen}!
How the hell are ya'?

433 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:20:30pm

re: #418 loppyd

Colder than a menopausal goat in the Arabian desert.

434 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:20:38pm

re: #385 Desert Dog

They have hammered nothing but hatred and death into those kids since they day they were born...

Yes - reminds me forcefully of the Hitler Youth - and those lads were also abused, as messengers and worse.

But - if the MFM don't report it, who knows, who cares ...

May the hamsthugs rot in an extra hell for what they are doing to their own children.

435 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:20:47pm

re: #411 loppyd

Good times, good times.

it's funny how no one mentions Ricky Henderson...his feets will never be bested...

436 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:20:57pm

re: #352 redstateredneck

Ricardo Montalban died?

Apparently so. RIP

437 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:21:06pm

re: #382 Kosh's Shadow

Kosh, we are putting together a NE lizard meet, e-mail me if you are interested.

438 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:21:09pm

re: #428 Creeping Eruption

Joke not until your skin has felt -32 F.

439 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:21:10pm

re: #410 Texas Heathen

Hey there! It's been so long! Hope all is well, Heathen!

440 MJ  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:21:22pm

Thieves nab 2 bikes belonging to Jimmy Carter


No arrests in theft from Carter Center near downtown Atlanta

441 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:21:29pm

re: #160 lawhawk

Good for them.

442 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:21:40pm

re: #407 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I got good news & bad news from the local comic book store. The good news, the new G.I. JOE series, written by noted conservative comic book writer Chuck Dixon, hit the shelves today. The bad news is that the Spider-Man meets Obama issue sold out in 10 minutes & the phone hasn't stopped ringing from people asking for it.


Is that with the gay superhero?

443 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:21:50pm

re: #419 midwestgak

Yes it is. I'm starting to play around with some of the neat lists and the dictionary and bingo thingy.

It really takes a game or two to get your bearings. I've been dead assed last in every one up to this one...and you're close on my heels!

444 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:21:55pm

re: #437 CapeCoddah

Need a guest speaker? Air band? Haiku committee?

445 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:21:56pm

re: #433 WriterMom

Colder than a menopausal goat in the Arabian desert.

GAH. Where do you and peacekeepah come up with this stuff?

446 sattv4u2  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:21:57pm

re: #431 3 wood

He was so strong I saw him once snap his bat on a checked swing.

Frank Howard was like that.

AND, he made himself into a very good left fielder at Fenway

447 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:22:18pm

re: #412 Alaska Kim

We have plenty of room in Alaska. Kinda cold for lizards though!

Thanks. You are correct. It is waaay to cold for this lizard. I did survival training one Jan-Mar up in NE Alaska back in the late 70s and I'm still trying to get warm. ;-)>

448 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:22:23pm

re: #319 loppyd

It would be better if I didn't attend!

449 offendi  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:22:35pm

re: #329 loppyd

Judge lets Bernard Madoff remain free

Obviously Obama should make Bernie the new Secretary of the Treasury.
He is obviously much smarter than Paulsen and can sucker the Chinese and other foreigners to keep buying our crappy bonds. Bernie also won't warn us about irrational exuberance, either. He could also do a great job with social security.

450 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:22:44pm

re: #445 loppyd

It's a dirty job, but somebody's gotta do it.

451 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:22:51pm

re: #438 WriterMom

Joke not until your skin has felt -32 F.

I'm with you WM. See my #234. We are about to get hit with -35-45 wind chill starting about now.

452 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:22:54pm

re: #433 WriterMom

Colder than a menopausal goat in the Arabian desert.

ROFLMAO! X10

453 lobo91  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:23:04pm

re: #398 Outrider

True. I think we will see a major strike before the year is out that will make 9/11 pale in comparison. I'm also thinking it will come by sea, as in a ship entering a harbor. just an opinion.

That's a distinct possibility.

It's also possible that they could go low-tech, with a number of coordinated suicide bombings scattered across the country.

Just think what 19 suicide bombers in the crowds outside Walmarts the morning after Thanksgiving would do.

/Gives a whole new meaning to the term Black Friday

454 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:23:08pm

re: #433 WriterMom

Colder than a menopausal goat in the Arabian desert.

I'M sick, she says.

455 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:23:08pm

re: #401 WriterMom

Anyway-what are you complaining about? Most men would be delighted that their ding attracts my immediate attention.

Not. Going. To touch. That.

456 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:23:14pm

re: #443 redstateredneck

It really takes a game or two to get your bearings. I've been dead assed last in every one up to this one...and you're close on my heels!

And I have a very firm grasp on last place!

don't care - it's fun any way you look at it.

457 MJ  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:23:27pm

Khan has died:

Actor Ricardo Montalban has died at age 88

No word if the coffin will be made of rich Corinthian leather.

458 Alaska Kim  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:23:33pm

re: #447 Outrider

Thanks.
You are correct. It is waaay to cold for this lizard. I did survival
training one Jan-Mar up in NE Alaska back in the late 70s and I'm still
trying to get warm. ;-)>

Hey, you survived!
NE Alaska? where?

459 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:23:37pm

re: #437 CapeCoddah

I sent email a little while ago with the subject 'MA Lizards".
If you didn't get it, let me know.

460 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:23:37pm

re: #449 offendi

Obviously Obama should make Bernie the new Secretary of the Treasury.
He is obviously much smarter than Paulsen and can sucker the Chinese and other foreigners to keep buying our crappy bonds. Bernie also won't warn us about irrational exuberance, either. He could also do a great job with social security.

Why not? Beats any other plan I've heard to date, and the guy does have a pretty good track record, all things considered.

461 spidly  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:23:38pm

re: #420 WriterMom

Listen mister-do a quick calculation mmmmkay.

It's a high of -16 CELSIUS here today, without the wind chill factor.

The wind chill is making it feel like -32 CELSIUS.

you know the cold chill you get when you scald yourself? This is what you are feeling. I discussed this with the Goracle and he assures me this is true.

462 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:23:46pm

re: #430 Guanxi88

Naah! See, a commie, at least, has some concrete beliefs he shares with others. These guys are all over the map, and yet they're all together, and they're sure the One agrees with them in all respects. This is a much more difficult pathology.

How about malignant narcissistic bastards?
At the very least we need to keep bastards in the name. I like that word.

463 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:23:47pm

re: #435 albusteve

it's funny how no one mentions Ricky Henderson...his feets will never be bested...

In the Boston sports world, this is huge because it was Jim Ed's last chance...and the drama surrounding his repeated failures to make the cut.

464 Texas Heathen  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:23:48pm

re: #432 redstateredneck

{Heathen}!
How the hell are ya'?

{redstate} Doing better than I deserve.
You got here late today so it's hello and goodbye. Hope I see ya tomorrow.

465 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:24:00pm

re: #454 Ben Hur

BenHur-ya don't know the half of it.

466 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:24:13pm

re: #444 WriterMom

Need a guest speaker? Air band? Haiku committee?

Mom, It would be AWESOME if you could come. I will take care of your ground transpo and hotel if you want to come!

467 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:24:21pm

re: #455 Kenneth

Party pooper!

468 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:24:25pm
469 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:24:29pm

re: #418 loppyd

Damn. That's some serious mo fo cold then.

Colder than a whore's goodbye.

470 midwestgak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:24:32pm

re: #443 redstateredneck

It really takes a game or two to get your bearings. I've been dead assed last in every one up to this one...and you're close on my heels!

Well, your play is certainly very healthy in this game.

471 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:24:32pm

re: #457 MJ

Khan has died:

Actor Ricardo Montalban has died at age 88

No word if the coffin will be made of rich Corinthian leather.

Sad that he died, but that is some funny sh*t you just wrote. LOL LOL LOL

472 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:24:36pm

re: #436 lawhawk

Apparently so. RIP

That man could roll "fine Corinthian leather" off the tongue like no other.

473 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:24:44pm

re: #462 LGoPs

How about malignant narcissistic bastards?
At the very least we need to keep bastards in the name. I like that word.

I think, given certain facts of demography among likely voters for the One, that the bastards can be taken as a given.

474 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:24:46pm

re: #423 sattv4u2

It's AMAZING. I took a summer cruise there. Two words

DO IT!


Our local conservative talk radio guy is taking a bunch of like minded people on a cruise and extended NW trip next Aug. Just don't have anyone to go with me. So will have to wait awhile, but I'll get there.

475 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:25:03pm

re: #457 MJ

OMG how sick and funny sick and funnnneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey

476 sattv4u2  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:25:04pm

re: #398 Outrider

re: #453 lobo91

That's a distinct possibility.

It's also possible that they could go low-tech, with a number of coordinated suicide bombings scattered across the country.

Just think what 19 suicide bombers in the crowds outside Walmarts the morning after Thanksgiving would do.

/Gives a whole new meaning to the term Black Friday

I agree. I think whatever Bush has done on the past 7+ years has shown Al Q. that they can't do something on a grand scale, but I've been saying that they can do many things at the same time on a small scale

477 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:25:30pm

re: #389 Sunlight

We need this "In the shitcam" on a live stream. Roostercams' missing most of the action.

478 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:25:32pm

re: #426 Peacekeeper

You know what I say when people talk about the cold? Render unto celsius that which is celsius'...

Hello? Comedy gold here!

479 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:25:32pm

re: #463 loppyd

In the Boston sports world, this is huge because it was Jim Ed's last chance...and the drama surrounding his repeated failures to make the cut.

I actually thought he was in already...one of the good guys

480 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:25:34pm

re: #404 redstateredneck

The dachshund pack make quick trips outside and then run back in. They really hate cold weather!

I heard that dachshunds have practised to perfection how to look pitiful, to get their humans to do everything for them ..

481 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:25:37pm

re: #415 sattv4u2

Please. You really the The One does something as pedestrian as that !?!?!

hmmm So you are saying the Chosen One has had an colostomy and wears a device?

I was going to say he had a shitbag on his side; but that would open up so many jokes........ lol

482 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:26:19pm

re: #464 Texas Heathen

{redstate} Doing better than I deserve.
You got here late today so it's hello and goodbye. Hope I see ya tomorrow.

Well, bye then!

483 debutaunt  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:26:24pm

re: #23 MandyManners

Good job.

ALERT! ALERT!

"FECES THROWING MONKEY ON LOOSE IN TAMPA BAY... "

484 Stonemason  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:26:24pm

re: #330 Guanxi88

Eh, heard it already. I'm looking for a name that captures the:

sloth, stupidity, cupidity, ignorance, avarice, poor hygiene, blind faith in anything but G-d, etc.

progressive?

485 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:26:29pm

re: #479 albusteve

I actually thought he was in already...one of the good guys

He had a rep for being less than cordial with the press here...but he was the man back in the day.

486 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:26:39pm

re: #457 MJ

Kahn!

487 3 wood  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:26:49pm

re: #446 sattv4u2

AND, he made himself into a very good left fielder at Fenway

Yep.

Strongest overall hitter I've ever seen myself was Carl Yastremski (I never saw Teddy Ballgame play).

I used to go to Old Comiskey when Yaz was in his late 30's and early 40's and watch him in batting practice. He would hit these line drives that were still going up when they hit the upper deck. I was up there one time and he was shattering chairs with his line drives.

I saw Ron Kittle hit them farther, but not harder than Yaz.

488 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:26:49pm

re: #478 Peacekeeper

Nice try. The dingers have spoken >DUD.

489 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:26:51pm

re: #459 Kosh's Shadow

I sent email a little while ago with the subject 'MA Lizards".
If you didn't get it, let me know.

Checking...

490 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:27:04pm

re: #470 midwestgak

Well, your play is certainly very healthy in this game.

It's a fluke!
:D

491 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:27:08pm

re: #484 Stonemason

progressive?

We're getting there. "progressive bastards" is good place to start, anyway.

492 offendi  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:27:14pm

re: #400 LGoPs

Berkeley, CA would probably be safe. Terrorists would figure it's already in the bag......
Bastards.

Actually I think I will just move in with Jimmah Carter. You know those bastards want him to be our President if they can wipe out Washington.

493 lobo91  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:27:22pm

re: #416 3 wood

Obama is going to try to surrender and walk away hoping we are left alone, but I don't think it will work.

This goes back to the earlier discussion about the value of studying the enemy's ideology.

Anyone who's paying attention would know what will happen after we "walk away" from the current conflict.

Ask the Israelis how well that withdrawal from Gaza worked for them...

494 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:27:24pm
495 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:27:38pm

re: #490 redstateredneck

It's a fluke!
:D

redstate you're a gamer now? :~)

496 3 wood  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:27:39pm

re: #457 MJ


Actor Ricardo Montalban has died at age 88

Can't say "You look marvelous" anymore about him.

497 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:27:50pm

re: #466 CapeCoddah

You're too cute. What are the details? Can you e-mail me?

498 sattv4u2  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:27:52pm

re: #479 albusteve

I actually thought he was in already...one of the good guys

he wasn't percieved that way in his playing days. He came off as surly and distant. Thats the big reason he hadn't been voted in till now. Too many old sportswriters who had the vote were pissed at him

499 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:27:58pm

re: #483 debutaunt

ALERT! ALERT!

"FECES THROWING MONKEY ON LOOSE IN TAMPA BAY... "

That's no way to refer to Democrats.......
/

500 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:28:20pm

re: #497 WriterMom

You're too cute. What are the details? Can you e-mail me?

COME!

501 midwestgak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:28:28pm

re: #456 reine.de.tout

And I have a very firm grasp on last place!

don't care - it's fun any way you look at it.

Hey {reine} - I enjoy coming home to it. It's fun to see what everyone has come up with.

502 smokefire  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:28:28pm

re: #424 CapeCoddah

Smoke, Just replied to you

got it, replied.

Will be waiting further info, in our igloo, er ice house, er snowbound home.

503 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:29:00pm

re: #480 yma o hyd

I heard that dachshunds have practised to perfection how to look pitiful, to get their humans to do everything for them ..

Mine certainly have!
My fourteen year old has entered into an "assisted living" phase. He can't get on or off the couch by himself any more and he's stone deaf. Poor old boy.

504 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:29:09pm

re: #459 Kosh's Shadow

I sent email a little while ago with the subject 'MA Lizards".
If you didn't get it, let me know.

Kosh, I did NOT get your e-mail...try again.Or Blue your nic.

505 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:29:17pm

re: #500 loppyd

I'm officially thinking about it.

506 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:29:19pm

re: #485 loppyd

He had a rep for being less than cordial with the press here...but he was the man back in the day.

a built in problem when writers are the voters..same in the NFL..Ricky Henderson was a pompous ass most of the time but he sucked up to the media (that word again)

507 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:29:38pm

Okay, we've gotta work "coprophage" and/or variations thereof into the name:

Coprophagic lemming bastards!

Bastardly coprophagic progressives.

Something along those lines

508 debutaunt  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:30:23pm

re: #438 WriterMom

Joke not until your skin has felt -32 F.

I start to get frostbite when it's 55 degrees.

509 bulwrk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:30:26pm

re: #483 debutaunt

ALERT! ALERT!

"FECES THROWING MONKEY ON LOOSE IN TAMPA BAY... "

I wonder if he's related to beer drinking victory monkey

510 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:30:35pm

re: #498 sattv4u2

he wasn't percieved that way in his playing days. He came off as surly and distant. Thats the big reason he hadn't been voted in till now. Too many old sportswriters who had the vote were pissed at him

good for the sport, and the league

511 sattv4u2  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:30:42pm

re: #487 3 wood

I met Yaz about 15 years ago. Retired, living with a GORGEOUS blonde on a small farm. I installed a satellite dish/ surround sound/ media room for them. very nice guy, but I never saw him w/o a beer or martini in his hands (and I saw him as early as 9 a.m most days)

512 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:30:54pm

re: #495 loppyd

redstate you're a gamer now? :~)

reine, vxbush, gak and I have a little scrabble game going on. Email reine if you want to get in on the next one.

513 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:31:01pm

re: #506 albusteve

a built in problem when writers are the voters..same in the NFL..Ricky Henderson was a pompous ass most of the time but he sucked up to the media (that word again)

I heard on the radio this morning that he used to stand nekkid in front of a full length mirror before every game and tell himself how wonderful he is.

BS? I don't know.

514 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:31:10pm

re: #458 Alaska Kim

Hey, you survived!
NE Alaska? where?

you got me. They jumped in us in and we met some of the Alaskan National Guard Scouts who were our instructors. We roamed all over that part of the country. If it helps there was no sign of civilization anywhere to be seen. Not even a Mars bar wrapper or coke can. ;-)>

515 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:31:30pm

re: #497 WriterMom

You're too cute. What are the details? Can you e-mail me?

Will do!

516 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:31:42pm

re: #496 3 wood

Can't say "You look marvelous" anymore about him.

That was Fernando Lamas.
Actually, if was Billy Crystal doing Fernando Lamas.

517 vxbush  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:32:07pm

re: #490 redstateredneck

It's a fluke!
:D

You promise? I'd like to at least make second place....

518 midwestgak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:32:22pm

re: #490 redstateredneck

It's a fluke!
:D

FLUKE = 12 LOL

519 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:32:29pm

More manipulation of climate data?

Statistical analysis shows NASA published climate data may be hand manipulated

Amazing when you apply science (in this case statistics) to validate "scientific" data.

This should upset every taxpayer and warrant a full investigation and audit of NASA's climatology numbers and methods.

520 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:32:32pm

re: #512 redstateredneck

reine, vxbush, gak and I have a little scrabble game going on. Email reine if you want to get in on the next one.

Sounds fun. Is reine's email enabled? If not and you have mine, feel free to send it along.

521 3 wood  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:32:32pm

re: #468 Iron Fist

So it's pretty obvious that whatever hocus pocus they try to use to hide it, they're going to effectively be printing money to cover the bailouts. How high do you think inflation is likely to go? I don't know enough to even make a guess at it, but it sounds like when all is said and done the bailouts will be about equivilent to a year's GDP.

Unreal amounts of money.

15% to 20%.

Take the amount of money pumped into the system and multiply it by about a factor of 10 and that will be the impact. Plus the velocity of money (how fast a dollar changes hands in a year) will likely speed up as the economy turns around and that will make the inflation even worse.

Part of the problem is that the Keynesians have taken back over. Bernanke is swinging the Fed back to being run under a Keynesian view.

FWIW, Keynesians don't see interest rates as being particularly important.

522 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:32:40pm

re: #478 Peacekeeper

Hey, it got a small *snicker* out of me. :)

/but I do have a warped sense of humour I have been told.

523 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:33:19pm

re: #396 Pyrocles

Damn. So Barry will only bestow the gift of flight to our children?! I want to fly TOO, damnit!

He'll get GM and Ford to work on making those "Iron Man" flying suits for everyone!

524 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:33:19pm

re: #519 karmic_inquisitor

More manipulation of climate data?

Statistical analysis shows NASA published climate data may be hand manipulated

Heh. "hand manipulated" Goes back to the Pee Wee Herman discussion some threads ago.

525 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:33:20pm

re: #504 CapeCoddah

Kosh, I did NOT get your e-mail...try again.Or Blue your nic.


Resent. Also enabled email

526 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:33:37pm

re: #517 vxbush

You promise? I'd like to at least make second place....

Oh, girl, you have won sooooo many times!

527 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:33:48pm

re: #511 sattv4u2

I met Yaz about 15 years ago. Retired, living with a GORGEOUS blonde on a small farm. I installed a satellite dish/ surround sound/ media room for them. very nice guy, but I never saw him w/o a beer or martini in his hands (and I saw him as early as 9 a.m most days)

That is kind of disturbing....

528 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:34:03pm

The Israeli Long View In Gaza
Considering Israel v. Hamas Phase II – With Egypt, Enable Fatah in Gaza

Just as the demise of al-Qaeda in Iraq required popular rejection and revolt by Iraqis, the ultimate demise of Hamas as a viable threat to Israel likewise requires a Palestinian Muslim victor, not a Jewish Israeli victor. With this - some Palestinian alternative - Hamas can not be defeated as a movement, and therefore Israeli war with it would be a continuous cycle of a growing terrorist movement; Israeli debilitating strikes; terrorist re-supply, resurgence and attacks; and more Israeli strikes. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

Interesting analysis

529 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:34:11pm

re: #518 midwestgak

FLUKE = 12 LOL

LOL!

530 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:34:18pm

re: #503 redstateredneck

Mine certainly have!
My fourteen year old has entered into an "assisted living" phase. He can't get on or off the couch by himself any more and he's stone deaf. Poor old boy.

Aahhh - he deserves all the help he can get! Golden Oldies are wonderful/

Its the young ones who can be limping around - you pick them up, poor things, and they see a swuirrle and are off like streaked lightning - no more limping!

Have seen this in the park a few times, really funny!

531 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:34:50pm

re: #476 sattv4u2

re: #453 lobo91

I agree. I think whatever Bush has done on the past 7+ years has shown Al Q. that they can't do something on a grand scale, but I've been saying that they can do many things at the same time on a small scale

I'm thinking they will do something on a grand scale as it would have to top 9/11. They keep getting bigger each time.

The airports are pretty sewed up. People can cross the borders but not much more than people.

That leaves the ports. The ships are inspected when they get in port and the manifest is checked prior. But what would happen if a ship detonated just entering NYC harbor? Or San Fran? Or Alaskas harbor? Seattle?

532 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:34:56pm

re: #505 WriterMom

I'm officially thinking about it.

Start pushing for the fun pass now. :~)

533 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:35:00pm

re: #513 loppyd

I heard on the radio this morning that he used to stand nekkid in front of a full length mirror before every game and tell himself how wonderful he is.

BS? I don't know.

well I do that myself!...what's the problem?...
I'm big on team guys and sportsmanship...I'm easily jaded by blowhards and selfish players in any game...if I could pick the perfect illustration it might be Brett Favre or someone similar...Scotty Pippin maybe

534 opnion  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:35:46pm

re: #516 redstateredneck

That was Fernando Lamas.
Actually, if was Billy Crystal doing Fernando Lamas.

Yeah, but there was a basis for the Billy Crystal skit on SNL.
As a guest on the Tonight Show, Fernando Lamas actually said "It is better to look good than to feel good>"

535 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:35:58pm
536 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:36:01pm

re: #530 yma o hyd

Aahhh - he deserves all the help he can get! Golden Oldies are wonderful/

Its the young ones who can be limping around - you pick them up, poor things, and they see a swuirrle and are off like streaked lightning - no more limping!

Have seen this in the park a few times, really funny!

Oh, they can be pitiful!

537 vxbush  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:36:39pm

re: #519 karmic_inquisitor

More manipulation of climate data?

Statistical analysis shows NASA published climate data may be hand manipulated

Amazing when you apply science (in this case statistics) to validate "scientific" data.

This should upset every taxpayer and warrant a full investigation and audit of NASA's climatology numbers and methods.

I love the smell of good statistical analyses in the afternoon. Smells like victory.

In this case, the specific methods I'm not familiar with. But the probabilities are off enough to make this a pretty open and shut case.

Bad, NASA. Bad bad bad.

538 debutaunt  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:36:52pm

re: #534 opnion

Yeah, but there was a basis for the Billy Crystal skit on SNL.
As a guest on the Tonight Show, Fernando Lamas actually said "It is better to look good than to feel good>"

Where did Billy get the "rook" good from?

539 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:36:55pm

re: #533 albusteve

well I do that myself!...what's the problem?...
I'm big on team guys and sportsmanship...I'm easily jaded by blowhards and selfish players in any game...if I could pick the perfect illustration it might be Brett Favre or someone similar...Scotty Pippin maybe

/Yeah, the Jets players just loved Favre's inclusiveness, and "team spirit."

[disgruntled Packer fan happy to see the tool go]

540 Kragar  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:37:06pm

re: #503 redstateredneck

Mine certainly have!
My fourteen year old has entered into an "assisted living" phase. He can't get on or off the couch by himself any more and he's stone deaf. Poor old boy.

At first I thought you meant your son. I know my mom swore I was stone deaf and wouldn't get off the couch at 14.

541 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:37:07pm

re: #534 opnion

Yeah, but there was a basis for the Billy Crystal skit on SNL.
As a guest on the Tonight Show, Fernando Lamas actually said "It is better to look good than to feel good>"

"I didn't know that."
/Johnny Carson impersonation

542 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:37:17pm

A View To A Kill
Why Israel Is Likely Preparing Future Fatah Battlespace Against Hamas in Gaza


...what Israel is actually doing is preparing (softening, if you will) the future battlespace for a rejuvenated Fatah to ultimately rise and challenge Hamas for control of Gaza. Operation Cast Lead is not the operation that will 'defeat Hamas' or even stop the rocket fire into Israel. In fact, the latter cannot be achieved until the former is realized.
543 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:37:18pm

re: #533 albusteve

well I do that myself!...what's the problem?...
I'm big on team guys and sportsmanship...I'm easily jaded by blowhards and selfish players in any game...if I could pick the perfect illustration it might be Brett Favre or someone similar...Scotty Pippin maybe

Two words. Manny Ramirez.

544 vxbush  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:37:31pm

re: #526 redstateredneck

Oh, girl, you have won sooooo many times!

I'm just talking about this game! Man, you three are making me work hard!

545 3 wood  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:37:43pm

re: #516 redstateredneck

That was Fernando Lamas.
Actually, if was Billy Crystal doing Fernando Lamas.

Ooops.

My mistake.

546 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:37:57pm
547 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:37:58pm

re: #535 buzzsawmonkey

Don't forget Johnny Rotten

548 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:38:19pm

Neil Cavuto on Fox just announced Ricardo Montalban has died.

549 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:38:28pm

re: #497 WriterMom

You're too cute. What are the details? Can you e-mail me?

Check your inbox, mom

550 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:38:32pm

re: #540 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

At first I thought you meant your son. I know my mom swore I was stone deaf and wouldn't get off the couch at 14.

Ha! I believe it!

551 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:38:50pm

re: #547 Kenneth

Don't forget Johnny Rotten

And conversely, Johnny Be Good....

552 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:39:07pm

re: #542 Kenneth

A View To A Kill
Why Israel Is Likely Preparing Future Fatah Battlespace Against Hamas in Gaza

Now, that is an interesting idea. Kinda like stirring up Syria to attack Iran. Kinky!

553 3 wood  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:39:09pm

re: #511 sattv4u2

but I never saw him w/o a beer or martini in his hands (and I saw him as early as 9 a.m most days)

Sad, that.

554 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:39:24pm

re: #545 3 wood

Ooops.

My mistake.

They were kind of interchangeable.

555 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:39:25pm
556 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:39:30pm
557 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:39:49pm

re: #539 Creeping Eruption

/Yeah, the Jets players just loved Favre's inclusiveness, and "team spirit."

[disgruntled Packer fan happy to see the tool go]

well there is that...I was pretty disappointed how that ended up there...my boy modeled his game on Brett and I like to remember those MVP years etc...he seems to have lost it I agree...but in all my years few players were as tough and fun to watch

558 lobo91  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:40:00pm

re: #531 Outrider

I'm thinking they will do something on a grand scale as it would have to top 9/11. They keep getting bigger each time.

The airports are pretty sewed up. People can cross the borders but not much more than people.

That leaves the ports. The ships are inspected when they get in port and the manifest is checked prior. But what would happen if a ship detonated just entering NYC harbor? Or San Fran? Or Alaskas harbor? Seattle?

It depends on your definition of "bigger."

Think back to the day 9/11 happened. Unless you were in NYC, you were probably more pissed off than scared.

If, on the other hand, a few nutcases blew themselves up in crowds at random locations across America, half the country wouldn't leave their houses for the next month.

559 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:40:12pm

Gotta peel meself and Madame Dog off the sofa! I don't think the rooster will be heard tonight - its too dark - he's fast asleep, if he' not been eaten.

Seeya tomorrow, all being well.

God bless and protect Israel and all who fight for her survival!

560 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:40:20pm

More...

So if international political protest prevents the sustained Israeli operations necessary to significantly de-fang Hamas in Gaza, yet the world would not bat an eye at Fatah fighting to achieve the same ends, the logical strategic conclusion is to assist them in doing just that. Considering the longer view of things, this is exactly what Israel seems quite prepared to do.

561 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:40:22pm

re: #557 albusteve

well there is that...I was pretty disappointed how that ended up there...my boy modeled his game on Brett and I like to remember those MVP years etc...he seems to have lost it I agree...but in all my years few players were as tough and fun to watch

I'll give ya that.

562 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:40:23pm

re: #548 jwb7605

Neil Cavuto on Fox just announced Ricardo Montalban has died.

No shit?

/jk - we've been discussing it for about the past 50 posts!

563 vxbush  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:40:24pm

re: #555 Iron Fist

Better chocolate is the Breakfast of Champions. :-)

Now that, I'll believe.

564 opnion  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:40:26pm

re: #538 debutaunt

Where did Billy get the "rook" good from?

I think that he was just miming Fernando's pronunciation.
Fernando was not a bit amused. He said the skit disturbed his wife Esther Williams, who was legally blind by that time.

565 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:40:51pm

re: #525 Kosh's Shadow

Resent. Also enabled email

Got it Kosh, and replied

566 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:40:56pm

re: #555 Iron Fist

Beer is the Breakfast of Champions :-)

And....it's not just for breakfast.
:)

567 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:41:22pm

re: #555 Iron Fist

Beer is the Breakfast of Champions :-)

HEY!...pass the Red Stripe amigo!

568 opnion  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:41:48pm

re: #541 redstateredneck

"I didn't know that."
/Johnny Carson impersonation

'Heyyoh" Ed McMahon

569 Soona'  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:42:04pm

re: #469 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Colder than a whore's goodbye.

Colder than my last wife's goodbye.

570 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:42:04pm

Steve Jobs is stepping down as day to day CEO.

/watch AAPL take another dive

571 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:42:09pm

re: #556 buzzsawmonkey

I was trying to restrict the list to the various Johnny Moneynames.

John Money

572 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:42:09pm

re: #566 LGoPs

And....it's not just for breakfast.
:)

There is a Chili restaurant near my office. Their motto? "Real Chili, it's not just for breakfast anymore."

573 jcm  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:42:13pm

re: #524 Guanxi88

Heh. "hand manipulated" Goes back to the Pee Wee Herman discussion some threads ago.

Massaging data..... a time honored tradition.

574 big steve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:42:21pm

OT here but an obscure site dedicated to mathematical detection of fraud by statistical analysis is reporting that NASA's GISS data, which is the main source of global warming information shows evidence of "massaging". The reseacher is inviting critical review of his work (good science!) and some others are also chiming in. He also does not imply fraud and comments that there could be innocent reasons......but it is worrisome. GISS (global warming) Data shows evidence of Manipulation

575 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:42:25pm

Is this old news?

(This pc is running so slow it will take me forevah to check the links)

NJ kids with Nazi-inspired names removed from home


HOLLAND TOWNSHIP, N.J.—Three New Jersey siblings whose names have Nazi connotations have been placed in the custody of the state, police said. The children, ranging in age from 3 to under 1, were removed from their home Friday. They drew attention last month when a supermarket bakery refused to put the name of the oldest -- Adolf Hitler Campbell -- on a birthday cake.

State workers didn't tell police why the children were taken, police Sgt. John Harris said. A family court hearing is scheduled for Thursday.

576 faraway  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:42:30pm

Hurray. I've got audio on the GazaCam for the first time. But, alas, no rooster.

577 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:42:36pm

re: #538 debutaunt

Where did Billy get the "rook" good from?

Jackie Chan?

578 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:42:38pm

re: #222 Ben Hur

Investors from New York to Sao Paulo grew less pessimistic about stocks over the next six months on speculation a U.S. stimulus plan and the lowest interest rates on record will revive the global economy, a survey of Bloomberg users showed.

English?

Translation:
Now that we've made it all into Monopoly money why not come in and play for laughs?

579 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:42:52pm

re: #556 buzzsawmonkey

I was trying to restrict the list to the various Johnny Moneynames.

I knew a guy in college named John Dong - it is the unit of currency in Vietnam!

580 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:43:01pm

re: #575 loppyd

Is this old news?

(This pc is running so slow it will take me forevah to check the links)

NJ kids with Nazi-inspired names removed from home

Nope. I just saw that this am myself.

581 vxbush  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:43:23pm

re: #570 Killian Bundy

Steve Jobs is stepping down as day to day CEO.

/watch AAPL take another dive

Actually, that could be good for the stress level of the workers. Let him keep his hands on the design phase, and let everyone else breathe.

582 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:43:31pm

re: #537 vxbush

I love the smell of good statistical analyses in the afternoon. Smells like victory.

In this case, the specific methods I'm not familiar with. But the probabilities are off enough to make this a pretty open and shut case.

Bad, NASA. Bad bad bad.

Time to tell them the "debate is over?"

/

583 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:43:33pm

re: #531 Outrider

I'm thinking they will do something on a grand scale as it would have to top 9/11. They keep getting bigger each time.

The airports are pretty sewed up. People can cross the borders but not much more than people.

That leaves the ports. The ships are inspected when they get in port and the manifest is checked prior. But what would happen if a ship detonated just entering NYC harbor? Or San Fran? Or Alaskas harbor? Seattle?

Some possibilities:
Something like the Mumbai attacks in a US city.
Multiple simultaneous attacks, as someone suggested. This could be on some store chain, or other target.
Bio or chem attack. Easier to hide than radioactive material. I've figured out a way to distribute inhalable diseases without catching attention, but it is something I'd rather not put in a public location.
Or since AQ doesn't like the 0ne, an attack at the inauguration would be possible, if planned early - they could have hidden the bomb years ago.

For harbors, NY or LA; believe it or not the ports of LA and Long Beach carry a huge amount of cargo. Blowing up the port would kill China's economy, and wouldn't be so great for ours; blowing up something with radiological, bio, or chemical, would get a lot of people in the area.

584 ~BfromTX  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:43:34pm

OT: Trek fans...it's a sad day. An Icon has passed. Fox News just popped up with: Ricardo Montalban has passed at 88. Best villain in ST history. RIP. ~B

585 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:43:34pm

re: #556 buzzsawmonkey

I was trying to restrict the list to the various Johnny Moneynames.

Here's one...Dr. John Money
Writer:
Armed Robbery Orgasm (2005) (TV) (book)

I Am Not a Freak (1987) (TV)

586 aggieann  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:43:49pm

re: #530 yma o hyd

Aahhh - he deserves all the help he can get! Golden Oldies are wonderful/

Its the young ones who can be limping around - you pick them up, poor things, and they see a swuirrle and are off like streaked lightning - no more limping!

Have seen this in the park a few times, really funny!

Our greyhound will be stoic as hell with a real injury (found by following the blood trail, no fun!) but will squeal like a banshee if her paw gets hidden between the cushions of the couch.

587 3 wood  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:44:01pm

re: #558 lobo91

If, on the other hand, a few nutcases blew themselves up in crowds at random locations across America, half the country wouldn't leave their houses for the next month.

I think some people would be taking security of their community into their own hands and the rules of political correctness wold quickly fall by the wayside.

588 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:44:05pm

re: #562 redstateredneck

No shit?

/jk - we've been discussing it for about the past 50 posts!

I was talking to a recruiter on the phone! I couldn't hear you. Then I hit the "new comments" button exactly when Cavuto announced the "breaking news". Cavuto is so behind the times!

589 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:44:07pm

re: #558 lobo91

It depends on your definition of "bigger."

Think back to the day 9/11 happened. Unless you were in NYC, you were probably more pissed off than scared.

If, on the other hand, a few nutcases blew themselves up in crowds at random locations across America, half the country wouldn't leave their houses for the next month.

True enough. I've always wondered why we haven't seen this stuff. Is our domestic security apparatus that good, are the bad guys that ineffective, or what?

590 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:44:19pm

The Prisoner's Patrick McGoohan dies aged 80

He died yesterday after a short illness, his son-in-law film producer Cleve Landsberg said.

McGoohan played the title character Number Six in the surreal 1960s show filmed in Portmeirion in Wales.

/so long Number Six

591 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:44:39pm

re: #563 vxbush

Now that, I'll believe.

[Link: www.ifood.tv...]

592 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:44:52pm

re: #575 loppyd

Is this old news?

(This pc is running so slow it will take me forevah to check the links)

NJ kids with Nazi-inspired names removed from home

These people are asses for what they named their kids, and their beliefs but, I really hope the state has more than that.

593 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:45:17pm

re: #543 loppyd

Two words. Manny Ramirez.

dont know much about him...a god guy eh?...I dont follow baseball anymore...I'm a fifties and sixties guy

594 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:45:37pm

Jeff Jacoby: The lone voice of reason at the Boston Globe.

Why should a journalist's race matter?

"Obama, Like His Predecessors, Will Face a Press Corps Lacking in Minorities," laments the Washington Post on the front page of Monday's Style section. Media reporter Howard Kurtz describes "the relative paucity of black journalists at the White House" as a "cause for concern," and he isn't the only one who thinks so. Even President Bush is quoted as saying that "there need to be more minorities in the press corps."

But why should it matter to anyone but a racist whether a White House reporter is black or white? Well, says Michael Fletcher, a colleague of Kurtz's, "you would want to have black journalists there to bring a different racial sensibility." By the same token, more evangelical journalists would presumably bring a different religious sensibility to the White House, more journalists from the Deep South would bring a different regional sensibility, and more Republican journalists would bring a different political sensibility. Do you know of any news organizations that are fretting over the "relative paucity" of evangelicals, Southerners, or Republicans on their payrolls? Me neither.

595 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:45:45pm

re: #575 loppyd

Is this old news?

(This pc is running so slow it will take me forevah to check the links)

NJ kids with Nazi-inspired names removed from home

Somebody posted the birthday cake story.

596 vxbush  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:45:45pm

re: #582 karmic_inquisitor

Time to tell them the "debate is over?"

/

No, because there is the possibility that the problem is the result of converting from Celsius to Fahrenheit. At least, that's one explanation put forth by the NASA folks. But I'm honestly not buying it, based on other analyses I've seen where folks are trying to reproduce the graphs created by NASA.

597 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:45:50pm

re: #584 ~BfromTX

OT: Trek fans...it's a sad day. An Icon has passed. Fox News just popped up with: Ricardo Montalban has passed at 88. Best villain in ST history. RIP. ~B

Khan you believe it?

No disrespect intended.....RIP

598 Viking6  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:46:14pm

re: #296 karmic_inquisitor

Well this is welcome news. We can now offically do away with OwlGore and Carbon Credits cuz it is toooo late.

599 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:46:18pm

re: #574 big steve

OT here but an obscure site dedicated to mathematical detection of fraud by statistical analysis is reporting that NASA's GISS data, which is the main source of global warming information shows evidence of "massaging". The reseacher is inviting critical review of his work (good science!) and some others are also chiming in. He also does not imply fraud and comments that there could be innocent reasons......but it is worrisome. GISS (global warming) Data shows evidence of Manipulation

It is enough to warrant an investigation of a government agency potentially engaged in "waste, fraud and abuse". We should not take James Hansen's word for it, though he will claim we should.

600 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:46:25pm

re: #575 loppyd

Heard about the family about a month ago. This is the first I heard the kids were taken away.
I glad they took them .Some people shouldn't reproduce.

601 3 wood  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:46:26pm

re: #539 Creeping Eruption

/Yeah, the Jets players just loved Favre's inclusiveness, and "team spirit."

[disgruntled Packer fan happy to see the tool go]

I have it on pretty good authority that half the Packers were willing to drive Favre to the airport when he left.

There were not a whole lot of tears on the Jets roster either. during practices he would go sit off by himself. Thomas Jones, a strong team guy, could not stand him.

602 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:46:35pm

re: #581 vxbush

Actually, that could be good for the stress level of the workers. Let him keep his hands on the design phase, and let everyone else breathe.

His health situation is "more complicated" than he thought.

/it sounds like he's dying

603 DisturbedEma  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:46:39pm

re: #584 ~BfromTX

OT: Trek fans...it's a sad day. An Icon has passed. Fox News just popped up with: Ricardo Montalban has passed at 88. Best villain in ST history. RIP. ~B

KHAN!

604 opnion  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:46:41pm

re: #584 ~BfromTX

OT: Trek fans...it's a sad day. An Icon has passed. Fox News just popped up with: Ricardo Montalban has passed at 88. Best villain in ST history. RIP. ~B

Wasn't he the host on Fantasy Island?

605 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:47:30pm

re: #588 jwb7605

I was talking to a recruiter on the phone! I couldn't hear you. Then I hit the "new comments" button exactly when Cavuto announced the "breaking news". Cavuto is so behind the times!

Really....helloooo, Neil, that was like so five minutes ago.

606 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:47:34pm

re: #587 3 wood

I think some people would be taking security of their community into their own hands and the rules of political correctness wold quickly fall by the wayside.

it would here at Ft. Willow....instantly

607 DisturbedEma  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:47:35pm

re: #594 loppyd

Jeff Jacoby: The lone voice of reason at the Boston Globe.

Why should a journalist's race matter?


BECAUSE- the race card will be played if dear leader's feelings get hurt. . .chum in the waters. . .

608 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:47:44pm

re: #600 x-wing

Heard about the family about a month ago. This is the first I heard the kids were taken away.
I glad they took them .Some people shouldn't reproduce.

They need more than that, or it becomes a wicked slippery slope for everyone else.

609 vxbush  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:47:59pm

re: #591 TaeJohnDo

[Link: www.ifood.tv...]

Heh. But get rid of the doughnut under the chocolate.

610 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:48:02pm

re: #584 ~BfromTX

OT: Trek fans...it's a sad day. An Icon has passed. Fox News just popped up with: Ricardo Montalban has passed at 88. Best villain in ST history. RIP. ~B

With him & Patrick McGoohan passing, this is a bad day for all sci-fi fans.

611 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:48:08pm

re: #564 opnion

I think that he was just miming Fernando's pronunciation.
Fernando was not a bit amused. He said the skit disturbed his wife Esther Williams, who was legally blind by that time.

In that case, it is definitely better to feel good than to look good.

612 bulwrk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:48:09pm

re: #519 karmic_inquisitor

Statistical analysis shows NASA published climate data may be hand manipulated


There's an Emily Litella skit waiting to happen.

613 DisturbedEma  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:48:21pm

re: #604 opnion

Wasn't he the host on Fantasy Island?

Yes, Mr. Rourke. . your host. . .and

KHAN!

614 faraway  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:48:43pm

re: #608 CapeCoddah

They need more than that, or it becomes a wicked slippery slope for everyone else.

people that believe in torture will be next.

615 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:48:44pm

re: #601 3 wood

I have it on pretty good authority that half the Packers were willing to drive Favre to the airport when he left.

There were not a whole lot of tears on the Jets roster either. during practices he would go sit off by himself. Thomas Jones, a strong team guy, could not stand him.

man that's just sad...he coulda been somebody!

616 ~BfromTX  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:48:46pm

re: #597 LGoPs

LOL...no I thought that guy would live forever...he will be missed.

617 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:49:15pm

re: #613 DisturbedEma

Yes, Mr. Rourke. . your host. . .and

KHAN!

So, do you figure, now that he's crossed over, that Herve Villachez was there waiting for him?

618 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:49:31pm

re: #587 3 wood

I think some people would be taking security of their community into their own hands and the rules of political correctness wold quickly fall by the wayside.

I agree. One of the reasons airlines are safe is that there are potentially hundreds of quasi sky marshalls on each flight - the passengers.
Same would probably happen on the ground, although that would present an interesting conundrum to the libtards who already dislike the idea of an armed citizenry.....

619 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:49:39pm

re: #613 DisturbedEma

Yes, Mr. Rourke. . your host. . .and

KHAN!

and pusher of the Chrysler Cordoba

620 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:49:40pm

re: #604 opnion

Wasn't he the host on Fantasy Island?

Yes, Tatoo, you cheap device for exposition.

Thanks, Boss.

621 vxbush  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:49:51pm

re: #602 Killian Bundy

His health situation is "more complicated" than he thought.

/it sounds like he's dying

I don't know what he and his doctors have discussed, but his "protein deficiency" sounded a bit like a smokescreen to me. I hope he can get over this.

622 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:50:03pm

re: #593 albusteve

dont know much about him...a god guy eh?...I dont follow baseball anymore...I'm a fifties and sixties guy

In the months leading up to his trade to LA he:

Struck out intentionally against the Yankees

Faked an injury

Hit a teammate in the face (during a game while in the dugout)

Pushed the 67 yr. old traveling secretary to the ground when he was unable to procure 16 tickets for the game THAT NIGHT

623 Soona'  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:50:03pm

re: #579 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I knew a guy in college named John Dong - it is the unit of currency in Vietnam!

I thought Vietnamese money was the piastre.

624 lobo91  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:50:13pm

re: #589 Guanxi88

True enough. I've always wondered why we haven't seen this stuff. Is our domestic security apparatus that good, are the bad guys that ineffective, or what?

I would guess "or what" out of those three choices.

It wouldn't take much to get a few people to strap on bomb belts. Happens every day in some parts of the world.

And in a country this big, acquiring the needed explosives wouldn't be that hard. After all, they were able to do it in London, which is a virtual police state compared to most of the US.

And domestic security? Don't make me laugh. Other than airports and government facilities, most of America is an open target still.

625 spidly  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:50:14pm

re: #590 Killian Bundy

The Prisoner's Patrick McGoohan dies aged 80

/so long Number Six

will the big ballon things show up at the funeral?

626 faraway  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:50:14pm

This is so great having gazaCam audio, I feel like Rush after surgery.

627 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:50:35pm

re: #619 redstateredneck

and pusher of the Chrysler Cordoba

Buddy of mine had one of those in the late 80's. when it finally breathed its last, we were all kinda sad.

Set the thing on fire and pushed it into the river.

628 DisturbedEma  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:50:39pm

re: #601 3 wood

I have it on pretty good authority that half the Packers were willing to drive Favre to the airport when he left.

There were not a whole lot of tears on the Jets roster either. during practices he would go sit off by himself. Thomas Jones, a strong team guy, could not stand him.

STOP IT. . .I love my Packers, and hope Favre has a looooong time to think about the scortched tundra he left- but the past is done- Rodgers did well, and when in doubt? A building season. . .

629 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:50:43pm

re: #596 vxbush

No, because there is the possibility that the problem is the result of converting from Celsius to Fahrenheit. At least, that's one explanation put forth by the NASA folks. But I'm honestly not buying it, based on other analyses I've seen where folks are trying to reproduce the graphs created by NASA.

I agree, but at the same time it would be nice to hit James Hansen (who heads up the folks who's data are suspect) with some of his own rhetoric. He has been an alarmist for some time and a big proponent of the Hockey Stick which has not materialized. He is more showman that scientist, and the fact that none of his predictions have come to pass ought to get people to question why his budget keeps going up. And they have been caught before manipulating numbers, but after the last time they said the data are clean.

In other endeavors such people are regarded as charlatans.

630 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:50:45pm

re: #617 Guanxi88

So, do you figure, now that he's crossed over, that Herve Villachez was there waiting for him?

I took the day off from school when he died.

631 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:50:52pm

re: #614 faraway

people that believe in torture will be next.

Not what I meant. Look at what happened in Texas. As much as this couple suck, and should be reviled, If the names were why these kids were taken, it undermines parental rights for every citizen.

632 DisturbedEma  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:51:32pm

re: #617 Guanxi88

So, do you figure, now that he's crossed over, that Herve Villachez was there waiting for him?

Only if he goes by plane. . .

633 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:51:45pm

re: #624 lobo91

I would guess "or what" out of those three choices.

It wouldn't take much to get a few people to strap on bomb belts. Happens every day in some parts of the world.

And in a country this big, acquiring the needed explosives wouldn't be that hard. After all, they were able to do it in London, which is a virtual police state compared to most of the US.

And domestic security? Don't make me laugh. Other than airports and government facilities, most of America is an open target still.

See, it's that "what" option that bothers me. Are they waiting? if so...

634 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:51:47pm

re: #614 faraway

people that believe in torture will be next.

Actually I misunderstood your post. I believe in torture for terrorists. I agree with you.

635 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:51:51pm

re: #549 CapeCoddah

Nothing yet..nothing in junk file either. I can get loppyd to send it to me.

636 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:51:53pm

re: #600 x-wing

Heard about the family about a month ago. This is the first I heard the kids were taken away.
I glad they took them .Some people shouldn't reproduce.

The state can't remove a kid for having a vile name. Something pretty bad must have been alleged for the kids to be taken.

637 3 wood  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:51:58pm

re: #593 albusteve

Two words. Manny Ramirez.

dont know much about him...a god guy eh?...I dont follow baseball anymore...I'm a fifties and sixties guy

Rameriez is one of the most selfish, me first hot dogs I've ever seen. He's a cancer in the clubhouse. I would not have him on my roster if he played for free.

638 faraway  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:52:04pm

re: #631 CapeCoddah

Not what I meant. Look at what happened in Texas. As much as this couple suck, and should be reviled, If the names were why these kids were taken, it undermines parental rights for every citizen.

I am agreeing with you.

639 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:52:15pm

re: #630 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I took the day off from school when he died.

Milk and Cheese went on a death-panic rampage, as I recall.

640 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:52:17pm

re: #635 WriterMom

Nothing yet..nothing in junk file either. I can get loppyd to send it to me.

I'll do it right now.....

641 vxbush  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:52:29pm

re: #629 karmic_inquisitor

I agree, but at the same time it would be nice to hit James Hansen (who heads up the folks who's data are suspect) with some of his own rhetoric. He has been an alarmist for some time and a big proponent of the Hockey Stick which has not materialized. He is more showman that scientist, and the fact that none of his predictions have come to pass ought to get people to question why his budget keeps going up. And they have been caught before manipulating numbers, but after the last time they said the data are clean.

In other endeavors such people are regarded as charlatans.

As a scientist, I must keep my mind open. There could be any number of explanations and issues with the data that must be clarified.

As a taxpaying member of society, I say he needs to go.

642 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:52:34pm

re: #623 Soona'

I thought Vietnamese money was the piastre.

Nope. It's the dong.

643 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:52:34pm

re: #619 redstateredneck

and pusher of the Chrysler Cordoba

Corinthian Leather!

644 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:52:43pm

re: #570 Killian Bundy

Steve Jobs is stepping down as day to day CEO.

/watch AAPL take another dive

I was discussing his no-show last fall with my son-in-law, and said it might have had a lot to do with his health.

That got poo-pooed big time. I was assured it was a business and marketing direction decision.

I stand by my remarks at the time, and just e-mailed my son-in-law stating so.

I met Wozniak once, but I've never met Jobs.

645 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:52:45pm

re: #632 DisturbedEma

Only if he goes by plane. . .

I'd hate to think he took a chrysler to the other side.

646 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:52:51pm

re: #627 Guanxi88

Buddy of mine had one of those in the late 80's. when it finally breathed its last, we were all kinda sad.

Set the thing on fire and pushed it into the river.

You coulda saved the seats of "fine Corinthian leather"!

647 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:52:54pm

re: #622 loppyd

In the months leading up to his trade to LA he:

Struck out intentionally against the Yankees

Faked an injury

Hit a teammate in the face (during a game while in the dugout)

Pushed the 67 yr. old traveling secretary to the ground when he was unable to procure 16 tickets for the game THAT NIGHT

holy cow...a role model for a spoiled prima dona

648 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:53:02pm

re: #622 loppyd

In the months leading up to his trade to LA he:

Struck out intentionally against the Yankees

Faked an injury

Hit a teammate in the face (during a game while in the dugout)

Pushed the 67 yr. old traveling secretary to the ground when he was unable to procure 16 tickets for the game THAT NIGHT

Yup, He did all that. Boston is well rid of him.

649 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:53:07pm

re: #640 loppyd

Great-thanks.

650 vxbush  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:53:09pm

re: #635 WriterMom

Nothing yet..nothing in junk file either. I can get loppyd to send it to me.

Do I need to act as a gobetween? At one time Loppy had my email address.

651 faraway  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:53:18pm

re: #642 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Nope. It's the dong.

I have been going long on the dong for weeks now.

652 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:53:19pm

re: #579 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I knew a guy in college named John Dong - it is the unit of currency in Vietnam!

I read Spike Milligan's book, "Hitler, my part in his downfall" (actually quite a clever book by a clever and witty man) He recounts, when in asia somewhere, the troops heard of a guy called Fuk Yoo, so when they were going past his hut all the troops would bellow out "Fuck You" only to have this old withered gentleman stand there waving furiously with a broad toothless grin, bemused by his sudden noteriety.

653 ~BfromTX  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:53:33pm

re: #610 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey


Yes it is....I am hoping (cross fingers) this new crop coming out in the new movie version will hold a candle to the old/semi new ST groups. I know...but just trying to be a lil hope and changey! ;-) ~B

654 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:53:42pm

Roostercams waking up . big fireball off in the distance.

655 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:53:46pm

re: #649 WriterMom

Great-thanks.

done!

656 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:53:48pm

re: #592 CapeCoddah

These people are asses for what they named their kids, and their beliefs but, I really hope the state has more than that.

Excellent!

I wonder when Child Protective Services will start apprehending kids named "Mohammed?"

Oh, wait. /

657 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:54:27pm

re: #635 WriterMom

Nothing yet..nothing in junk file either. I can get loppyd to send it to me.

HMMM, Kosh had trouble e-mailing me, too. Is it against the rules to post my business e-mail, which is all over the place publicly?

658 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:54:29pm

AAPL halted in after hours trading.

/ruh roh

659 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:54:30pm

re: #646 redstateredneck

You coulda saved the seats of "fine Corinthian leather"!

They burned quite nicely, as I recall.

660 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:54:46pm

re: #647 albusteve

holy cow...a role model for a spoiled prima dona

You wouldn't believe the Manny apologists that still defend him.

661 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:54:47pm

re: #628 DisturbedEma

STOP IT. . .I love my Packers, and hope Favre has a looooong time to think about the scortched tundra he left- but the past is done- Rodgers did well, and when in doubt? A building season. . .

I would never be able to put it away...with football the past is just right there all the time in my mind...

662 Kragar  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:54:53pm

Khan the Pimp

663 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:54:53pm

re: #640 loppyd

I'll do it right now.....

Thanks!

664 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:54:59pm
665 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:55:07pm

re: #651 faraway

I have been going long on the dong for weeks now.

Oh, no you didnt.

666 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:55:56pm

re: #636 loppyd

The state can't remove a kid for having a vile name. Something pretty bad must have been alleged for the kids to be taken.


I agree, but when you name your kid Adolph Hitler, somethings bound to go wrong.

/cause-effect thingy.

667 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:56:03pm

Writer mom, It may take a few minutes to get there, I just got Kosh's original e-mail. He sent it a while ago.

668 Soona'  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:56:42pm

re: #589 Guanxi88

True enough. I've always wondered why we haven't seen this stuff. Is our domestic security apparatus that good, are the bad guys that ineffective, or what?

Why attack us again? Keith Ellison is now a US senator, B. Hussein Obama is our president. Our schools are teaching Islam. PC has crippled any mention of the pitfalls of sharia law. Shall I go on?

669 faraway  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:56:51pm

zeroing in

670 midwestgak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:57:07pm

bbl

671 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:57:09pm

re: #641 vxbush

As a scientist, I must keep my mind open. There could be any number of explanations and issues with the data that must be clarified.

As a taxpaying member of society, I say he needs to go.

Agree - I am open minded too.

But if no plausible, data-conforming explanation comes forth then Hansen et al will have damaged their reputations irreparably, IMO. They will have also undermined public confidence in climate theory altogether. That is why scientists aren't supposed to cheat - it inevitably comes back on them.

Just the same, I put "may" in my original link even though Watts used "is".

672 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:57:13pm
673 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:57:17pm

re: #666 x-wing

I agree, but when you name your kid Adolph Hitler, somethings bound to go wrong.

/cause-effect thingy.

Oh absolutely!

674 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:57:24pm

re: #670 midwestgak

bbl

see ya'.

675 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:57:24pm

re: #659 Guanxi88

They burned quite nicely, as I recall.

Indeed, I suggest a Viking funeral for any older, POS vehicle.

Drain the gas outta the tank, take whatever change is in the cupholders, open the windows, douse it in gas, start it rolling toward a river or other body of water, and light that sucker on fire before it splashes.

Deeply gratifying, and very stupid. The two often go together.

676 3 wood  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:57:43pm

re: #628 DisturbedEma

Rodgers did well, and when in doubt? A building season. . .

You have the best young offensive line I've seen this year and they helped Rodgers a lot.

If you can find a couple linebackers who can actually, well, tackle, and find something for A.J. Hawk to do other than try to play linebacker, you should win the division easy next year.

677 alegrias  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:57:43pm

re: #521 3 wood

15% to 20%.

Take the amount of money pumped into the system and multiply it by about a factor of 10 and that will be the impact. Plus the velocity of money (how fast a dollar changes hands in a year) will likely speed up as the economy turns around and that will make the inflation even worse.

Part of the problem is that the Keynesians have taken back over. Bernanke is swinging the Fed back to being run under a Keynesian view.

FWIW, Keynesians don't see interest rates as being particularly important.

* * * *
Jimmy Carter didn't care interest rates were nearly 20%.
Carter II it is, my friends.
My fellow Americans, we're going back to the USSR!
Heavy handed thuggish politburo, government sponsored hockey teams.
Forget we used to believe in miracles...like the US 1980 Winter Olympics Hockey team.

678 opnion  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:57:54pm

re: #643 karmic_inquisitor

Corinthian Leather!

For the man who knows who I am.

679 faraway  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:58:02pm

re: #668 Soona'

Why attack us again? Keith Ellison is now a US senator, B. Hussein Obama is our president. Our schools are teaching Islam. PC has crippled any mention of the pitfalls of sharia law. Shall I go on?

Yea, we will probably get something in the mail any day now asking us to convert to Islam or pay the tax.

680 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:58:04pm

re: #672 buzzsawmonkey

Weird link. Never heard of him before.

Your challenge caused a Google search. I'd never heard of him, either.

681 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:58:09pm

re: #672 buzzsawmonkey

Weird link. Never heard of him before.

And here you thought you knew all the sexologists.

682 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:58:26pm

re: #668 Soona'

Why attack us again? Keith Ellison is now a US senator, B. Hussein Obama is our president. Our schools are teaching Islam. PC has crippled any mention of the pitfalls of sharia law. Shall I go on?

Yeah, but these guys, from what I hear, still like to terrorize the infidels in their midst. We haven't seen much of that, thank goodness.

683 spidly  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:58:27pm

re: #631 CapeCoddah

Not what I meant. Look at what happened in Texas. As much as this couple suck, and should be reviled, If the names were why these kids were taken, it undermines parental rights for every citizen.

germany has laws regarding the names you give kids. the name chosen is supposed to reflect your nationality/ethnicity

Whether a name is acceptable or not is the decision of the registry office in the place of birth of the child. If you want to give your child an unusual German name, you should consult the competent registry office prior to the birth in order to find out whether the name will be accepted without any problems.

The legal regulations regarding first names are often more generous if one or both parents come from abroad. Naming rules prevelant in the respective country of origin can be, but do not necessarily have to be taken into consideration.

what's that smell like?

684 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:58:40pm

Pet dogs rival humans for emotional satisfaction


Who needs children when a puppy can provide a similar emotional experience? After playing with their pets, dog owners experience a burst in a hormone linked to infant care, not to mention romantic love and friendship, new research finds.

Nicknamed the "cuddle chemical" and the "love drug", oxytocin has been found to dampen stress, combat depression, and breed trust in humans. Studies of voles, mice and rats also point to oxytocin's role in pair bonding and social memory.

Note the lack of cats in this study.

/ducking from cat lovers

685 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:58:45pm
Hamas accepts Gaza cease-fire initiative 'in principle'
Mohammed Nazzal, a senior Hamas official in Syria, outlined Hamas's demands as follows: an immediate end to the Israeli military offensive, the reopening of the Rafah border crossing, a rejection of a long-term cease-fire, the presence of an international force in the Gaza Strip and a refusal to stop the smuggling of weapons.

Nazzal said that the Hamas delegation in Cairo made it clear to the Egyptians that these demands were final and that Hamas would not make any concessions.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

686 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:58:57pm
687 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:58:57pm

re: #657 CapeCoddah

I wouldn't do that if I were you. Loppy sent me a note..I'll check now.

688 vxbush  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:59:04pm

re: #671 karmic_inquisitor

Agree - I am open minded too.

But if no plausible, data-conforming explanation comes forth then Hansen et al will have damaged their reputations irreparably, IMO. They will have also undermined public confidence in climate theory altogether. That is why scientists aren't supposed to cheat - it inevitably comes back on them.

Just the same, I put "may" in my original link even though Watts used "is".

But there are already so many problems with the way temperatures are collected at the sites with urban heat island issues, poor sensor control, etc. etc. that he has never addressed. If Hansen was serious about collecting good data, he would have fixed those problems first.

It always seemed to me to be a political theatre.

689 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:59:13pm

What will happen to BHOs halo when some comic get s tired of being in the pac and just starts ranking him out and publicly humiliating him? He has now stepped into a bubble so he is guaranteed that for the next four years he will not be exposed to the daily tensions and humiliations that normal people face. There is no chance that any storekeeper or restauranteur will look at him and say "Get out of here you bum."

690 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:59:17pm

re: #675 Guanxi88

Deeply gratifying, and very stupid. The two often go together.


Often announced by, "Hey, y'all watch this!".

691 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:59:20pm

re: #677 alegrias

* * * *
Jimmy Carter didn't care interest rates were nearly 20%.
Carter II it is, my friends.
My fellow Americans, we're going back to the USSR!
Heavy handed thuggish politburo, government sponsored hockey teams.
Forget we used to believe in miracles...like the US 1980 Winter Olympics Hockey team.

That just gave me a headache.

692 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 1:59:52pm

re: #677 alegrias

* * * *
Jimmy Carter didn't care interest rates were nearly 20%.
Carter II it is, my friends.
My fellow Americans, we're going back to the USSR!
Heavy handed thuggish politburo, government sponsored hockey teams.
Forget we used to believe in miracles...like the US 1980 Winter Olympics Hockey team.

Don't forget having Pravda as our new media.....

693 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:00:03pm

re: #660 loppyd

You wouldn't believe the Manny apologists that still defend him.

fans are like that...idolatry is blind sometimes

694 DisturbedEma  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:00:05pm

re: #668 Soona'

Why attack us again? Keith Ellison is now a US senator, B. Hussein Obama is our president. Our schools are teaching Islam. PC has crippled any mention of the pitfalls of sharia law. Shall I go on?

In the words of Achmed the dead terrorist;

Silence! I will keeeeell you. . .

695 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:00:12pm

How the hell does one even respond to a post like this?

Roll Back the Reagan Tax Cuts
Fix this mess in a Jiffy.

Thoughts?

696 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:00:49pm

re: #666 x-wing

I agree, but when you name your kid Adolph Hitler, somethings bound to go wrong.

/cause-effect thingy.

True, but, we are still free to name our children. Since I find I cannot hope the kids were abused and taken, I hope the state took them wrongfully, and gets their ass kicked.

697 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:00:54pm

re: #692 LGoPs

Don't forget having Pravda as our new media.....

Didn't know whether to upding or downding that.
I followed my rule, and didn't shoot the messenger (prophet, in this case).

698 faraway  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:00:55pm

re: #692 LGoPs

Don't forget having Pravda as our new media.....

I am not joking when I say that Pravda reads more down the line than NBC

699 3 wood  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:01:06pm

Apple shares halted; financial stocks mixed

LOS ANGELES (MarketWatch) -- Apple Inc. shares were halted Wednesday evening as the technology company said that Chief Executive Steve Jobs will take a medical leave of absence until the end of June.
Apple shares were halted at 4:30 pm ET. The last trade was at $85.30, unchanged from the regular session.
Jobs, in a statement, said that during the past week he's learned that his health-related issues "are more complex than I originally thought."
Chief Operating Officer Tim Cook will be responsible for day to day operations

Best wishes Steve, but I don't think this is going to end well for you.

700 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:01:13pm

re: #684 loppyd

Nicknamed the "cuddle chemical" and the "love drug", oxytocin has been found to dampen stress, combat depression, and breed trust in humans.


I had to read that twice. I thought it said oxycontin.

701 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:01:44pm

re: #699 3 wood

Apple shares halted; financial stocks mixed

Best wishes Steve, but I don't think this is going to end well for you.

I have a bad feeling about it as well.

702 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:01:50pm

re: #683 spidly

what's that smell like?

Smells like a neighborhood I DO NOT want to live in. Those kids can change their names, and I suspect they will.

703 Soona'  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:02:03pm

re: #642 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Nope. It's the dong.

In this economy, I hope the dong isn't sold short.
/

704 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:02:11pm

re: #558 lobo91

It depends on your definition of "bigger."

Think back to the day 9/11 happened. Unless you were in NYC, you were probably more pissed off than scared.

If, on the other hand, a few nutcases blew themselves up in crowds at random locations across America, half the country wouldn't leave their houses for the next month.

true. I'm probably looking at it from a different perspective.

705 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:02:17pm

re: #700 redstateredneck

I had to read that twice. I thought it said oxycontin.

LOL - same warm fuzzy feeling.

706 opnion  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:02:32pm

re: #684 loppyd

Pet dogs rival humans for emotional satisfaction


Note the lack of cats in this study.

/ducking from cat lovers

With good reason. If you pick up a cat & look into it's murderous eyes all you can think is "Thank God it doesn't have opposable thumbs. This thing would try to strangle me."

707 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:02:53pm

re: #684 loppyd

Pet dogs rival humans for emotional satisfaction

Note the lack of cats in this study.

/ducking from cat lovers

Sure. When you get home from work, the dogs want to be pet; they're excited to see you and show how much they love you.
The spouse wants to say how her day went and what you have to do that night.

708 ted  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:02:58pm

Steve Jobs on Medical Leave:

IMO: Terminal Pancreatic Cancer.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

709 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:02:58pm

re: #687 WriterMom

I wouldn't do that if I were you. Loppy sent me a note..I'll check now.

No, I wont. I thunk about it!

710 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:03:07pm

re: #703 Soona'

In this economy, I hope the dong isn't sold short.
/


It has to be said, a long dong is better than short dong, or so I'm told.

711 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:03:09pm

re: #688 vxbush

But there are already so many problems with the way temperatures are collected at the sites with urban heat island issues, poor sensor control, etc. etc. that he has never addressed. If Hansen was serious about collecting good data, he would have fixed those problems first.

It always seemed to me to be a political theatre.

A CEO of a public company in the US would be facing a fairly stringent investigation and potential jail time it the same anomalies showed up regarding financial records. We will see what standard is applied here - an investigation/audit is in order.

712 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:03:10pm

re: #696 CapeCoddah

True, but, we are still free to name our children. Since I find I cannot hope the kids were abused and taken, I hope the state took them wrongfully, and gets their ass kicked.

Giving a kid that name is prima facie evidence of child abuse, I should think.

713 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:03:13pm

re: #690 redstateredneck

Often announced by, "Hey, y'all watch this!".

Look Ma No Hands!

714 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:03:13pm

re: #685 Spare O'Lake

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Fire at will...happy hunting boys

/salute

715 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:03:17pm

re: #697 jwb7605

Thanks....
:)

716 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:03:37pm

re: #709 CapeCoddah

Check your e-mail.

717 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:04:07pm

re: #713 lifeofthemind

Look Ma No Hands!

Often spoken AFTER deeply gratifying but stupid stuff involving black powder, blasting caps, and/or railroad torpedoes.

718 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:04:07pm
719 lobo91  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:04:49pm

re: #688 vxbush

But there are already so many problems with the way temperatures are collected at the sites with urban heat island issues, poor sensor control, etc. etc. that he has never addressed. If Hansen was serious about collecting good data, he would have fixed those problems first.

It always seemed to me to be a political theatre.

Pretty much the definition of Congressional hearings, actually.

720 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:05:02pm

re: #706 opnion

With good reason. If you pick up a cat & look into it's murderous eyes all you can think is "Thank God it doesn't have opposable thumbs. This thing would try to strangle me."

Cats size you up, literally, they wait for the day you are the size of mice.

721 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:05:16pm

re: #705 loppyd

LOL - same warm fuzzy feeling.

I was gonna go home and have a big group cuddle with the pack!

722 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:05:32pm

Re: the death of Ricardo Montalbam

He lived a long and comfortable life. Unlike many others of his generation.

Here is a footnote you won't find in his obituary: while the Stewarts, Alberts, and Gables were enlisting. Ricardo stayed home and worked on his career. He would not report, he was a Conscientious Objector don't you know.

723 opnion  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:05:41pm

re: #707 Kosh's Shadow

Sure. When you get home from work, the dogs want to be pet; they're excited to see you and show how much they love you.
The spouse wants to say how her day went and what you have to do that night.

Your dog doesn't care if you just did an ax murder. Still damn glad to see ya.

724 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:06:17pm

re: #717 Guanxi88

Often spoken AFTER deeply gratifying but stupid stuff involving black powder, blasting caps, and/or railroad torpedoes.

And before the British Taxpayer is sent another bill to wipe Capt. Hook's backside.

725 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:06:21pm

re: #696 CapeCoddah

True, but, we are still free to name our children. Since I find I cannot hope the kids were abused and taken, I hope the state took them wrongfully, and gets their ass kicked.


We are not in disagreement. If the state jumped the gun then yes, hammer them. I would like to see the "real" reason they yanked those kids.

726 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:06:37pm

re: #683 spidly

germany has laws regarding the names you give kids. the name chosen is supposed to reflect your nationality/ethnicity

My (American) brother, who lives in Germany with his German wife, wanted our last name to be his daughters' middle names (no hyphenating allowed) so he had to convince the authorities that our last name is used as a girl's name here in the US. He made the claim and got away with it. I won't say what the name is, but it would be like having a girl named Johnson or something.

727 opnion  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:06:41pm

re: #720 lifeofthemind

Cats size you up, literally, they wait for the day you are the size of mice.

Yeah, they are always plotting & who knows what they talk about?

728 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:06:46pm

re: #706 opnion

With good reason. If you pick up a cat & look into it's murderous eyes all you can think is "Thank God it doesn't have opposable thumbs. This thing would try to strangle me."

My cat was the devil's spawn. My mom (forever scarred) calls all cats miniature panthers.

The only good thing about him was it alerted us that I am allergic to cats and have the ultimate excuse to never EVAH have one again!

729 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:06:50pm

re: #724 lifeofthemind

And before the British Taxpayer is sent another bill to wipe Capt. Hook's backside.

Oh, yeah! I'd forgotten about Abu Hamza. He still around, is he?

730 Soona'  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:07:07pm

re: #682 Guanxi88

Yeah, but these guys, from what I hear, still like to terrorize the infidels in their midst. We haven't seen much of that, thank goodness.

They're waiting for Congress to declare that there can be "sharia neighborhoods" like they have in the UK.

731 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:07:31pm

re: #575 loppyd

Is this old news?

(This pc is running so slow it will take me forevah to check the links)

NJ kids with Nazi-inspired names removed from home

I'm not sure if that is good news or bad news. I don't care for the idea of state authorities rushing in and "confiscating" kids without even giving a reason, merely saying "see ya in court".

It seems a short step from rationalizing taking kids from a neo-nazi family to taking kids from a family the state "feels" has "bad" political beliefs. I suspect I have worded this badly, but hope not.

732 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:07:56pm

re: #635 WriterMom

Nothing yet..nothing in junk file either. I can get loppyd to send it to me.

Got it and replied Writermom

733 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:08:02pm

re: #730 Soona'

They're waiting for Congress to declare that there can be "sharia neighborhoods" like they have in the UK.

Thought they had that already, without an act of Congress, in Hamtramk (Spelling?) and Dearborn. Who knew>

734 jcm  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:08:04pm

re: #695 Who Watches the Watchmen?

How the hell does one even respond to a post like this?

Major tax cuts have happened 4 times.
Wilson, Kennedy, Reagan, Bush. Each time the economy grew and revenue to the government increased. Ireland cut corporate taxes 80%, and is booming.

Tax cuts work every time they are tried.

735 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:08:08pm

re: #722 The Shadow Do

Re: the death of Ricardo Montalbam

He would not report, he was a Conscientious Objector don't you know.


He was a lover, not a fighter.
;-)

736 Kragar  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:08:08pm

re: #695 Who Watches the Watchmen?

How the hell does one even respond to a post like this?

I like pie.

737 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:08:37pm

re: #707 Kosh's Shadow

Sure. When you get home from work, the dogs want to be pet; they're excited to see you and show how much they love you.
The spouse wants to say how her day went and what you have to do that night.

"You talk about your day... How was your day today? Did you have a good day today or a bad day today? Well, what kind of day was it? Well, I don't know. How 'bout you? How was your day?"

/seinfeld

738 JustABill  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:08:41pm

re: #51 Diamond Bullet

It's been interesting being here in DC during the inauguration prep. It is totally overboard, way beyond anything in 2000 or 2004. The Feds shut down a chunk of the city last Sunday just to practice all the marches. (I know, because I got caught in traffic and had to watch part of it). Yesterday, they pre-emptively salted roads north of the White House, apparently just in case it snows in the next 4 days. The salt was so thick it actually blows into your mouth and you have to wash it out. Well over $100 million is being spent on the whole thing. Come Inauguration, they are shutting down all the major highways and roads in from northern Virginia, which is kinda ironic since that was the portion of Virginia that swung the state for Obama. The entire place is taking on a Roman triumphal march sort of vibe for Obama's coronation, so much so that the line from Gladiator sums it up: "He enters Rome as a conquering hero...but what has he conquered?"

Memento mori
/latin

739 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:08:54pm

re: #719 lobo91

Pretty much the definition of Congressional hearings, actually.

sadly you are exactly right...oversight is dead

740 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:09:03pm

re: #718 buzzsawmonkey

BDS refuses to go quietly into that good night.

Hey, Tim O'Brien...

"Fuck you"

-LGoPs

741 vxbush  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:09:24pm

re: #711 karmic_inquisitor

A CEO of a public company in the US would be facing a fairly stringent investigation and potential jail time it the same anomalies showed up regarding financial records. We will see what standard is applied here - an investigation/audit is in order.

Agreed. I expect nothing will be done, to be honest. I hope to be proven wrong.

742 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:09:48pm

re: #727 opnion

Yeah, they are always plotting & who knows what they talk about?

The other night one of our cats was on my lap, and the other cat was on my wife's lap.

In about ten minutes, the two traded positions.

I said to my wife "You know they're setting us up for something, don't you?"

743 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:09:55pm

re: #731 Outrider

I'm not sure if that is good news or bad news. I don't care for the idea of state authorities rushing in and "confiscating" kids without even giving a reason, merely saying "see ya in court".

It seems a short step from rationalizing taking kids from a neo-nazi family to taking kids from a family the state "feels" has "bad" political beliefs. I suspect I have worded this badly, but hope not.

I suspect something sinister was going on. If it was based on the name only then as much as I think these people are pigs the state has no right.

744 opnion  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:10:16pm

re: #728 loppyd

My cat was the devil's spawn. My mom (forever scarred) calls all cats miniature panthers.

The only good thing about him was it alerted us that I am allergic to cats and have the ultimate excuse to never EVAH have one again!

You can usually find your dog. Take a step & you usually trip over it.
But your cat? The thing disappears, usually to some seditious meeting to learn how to kill it's owner.

745 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:10:18pm

re: #708 ted

Terminal Pancreatic Cancer

/redundant

746 faraway  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:10:25pm

boom

747 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:10:33pm

re: #712 Alberta Oil Peon

Giving a kid that name is prima facie evidence of child abuse, I should think.

NO, Not in the US it is not. It IS however, prima facia evidence that the parents are complete assholes.

748 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:10:43pm

Much of the Islamic world did have advances in the sciences over Western Europe, not due to any superiority of Islam, but because they conquered and subjugated the peoples of Persia and Eastern Rome (also known as Byzantine Greeks).
In the West, though there were brief revivals of ancient culture and learning, the barbarians effectively destroyed the links with ancient Western Rome. It was not until the people of Europe began on a wide scale to discover and recover the ancient arts that modern arts and science began to flourish in the West.

Both the scientists of Europe and of Islam stand upon the same roots—ancient Rome, ancient Greece, ancient Persia. But despite the similarity of roots, the fruit is extraordinarily different. Europe has grown and flowered and expanded its influence far beyond any historical precedent. The peasants of Europe now live in luxury that rivals ancient emperors and kings. The Islamic world has taken the same roots and managed to mimic and parrot some of the ancient arts. But on the whole, there is no encouragement to explore science or to invent anything new in the Islamic world. How many westerners flock to Islamic schools to learn the latest advances in science? The Middle East has most of the worlds oil, so when a country decides to open up a new oil field, whom do they call for advice? Middle Easterners? No. Americans and Europeans.
Islam suffers from an intellectual and developmental disability. It is anti-creative and destructive. It only flowers and reaches higher when its people begin to follow Islam in a shallow minimalistic way. Islam does not grow and expand because of anything positive it has to offer—it grows and expands like a blight overtaking the crops in a farmer's field.

/This is a response to some things said in the previous "pedophile" thread

749 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:10:48pm

re: #731 Outrider

I'm not sure if that is good news or bad news. I don't care for the idea of state authorities rushing in and "confiscating" kids without even giving a reason, merely saying "see ya in court".

It seems a short step from rationalizing taking kids from a neo-nazi family to taking kids from a family the state "feels" has "bad" political beliefs. I suspect I have worded this badly, but hope not.

I keep thinking of those kids in Zombies California videos, and the ones singing those little anthems to the Chosen One, and others here in the country that have popped up.

750 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:11:11pm

re: #744 opnion

You can usually find your dog. Take a step & you usually trip over it.
But your cat? The thing disappears, usually to some seditious meeting to learn how to kill it's owner.

In my case it was laying in wait in my mom's Boston fern.

751 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:11:34pm

re: #734 jcm

Major tax cuts have happened 4 times.
Wilson, Kennedy, Reagan, Bush. Each time the economy grew and revenue to the government increased. Ireland cut corporate taxes 80%, and is booming.

Tax cuts work every time they are tried.

creation of wealth beats redistribution every time.

752 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:11:40pm

re: #743 loppyd

I suspect something sinister was going on. If it was based on the name only then as much as I think these people are pigs the state has no right.

That whole deal reeked of Randy Weaver scenarios.
I'm glad a pre-emptive strike was probably made.

753 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:11:42pm

re: #712 Alberta Oil Peon

Giving a kid that name is prima facie evidence of child abuse, I should think.

So is naming your daughter "Reignbeaux" - Vin Diesel, I'm looking in your direction!

754 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:11:51pm

re: #736 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I like pie.

so do I....give me yours

755 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:11:51pm
756 vxbush  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:11:54pm

re: #744 opnion

You can usually find your dog. Take a step & you usually trip over it.
But your cat? The thing disappears, usually to some seditious meeting to learn how to kill it's owner.

I must disagree. The cats don't look on you as human. They look on you as larger cats than themselves. Thus, it's all a matter of show to make them look badder and meaner than you.

But if it's nap time and you curl up with them just right, they purr on you like you're from the same litter.

That, and a little nip goes a long way.

757 lobo91  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:12:11pm

re: #739 albusteve

sadly you are exactly right...oversight is dead

Those House Banking Committee hearings sure were productive...

Barney Frank asking one witness after another, "So, tell us why you think this whole sub-pwime mowgatge cwisis is all Bush's fault..."

758 vxbush  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:12:23pm

re: #745 Killian Bundy

/redundant

Indeed. I had a friend who developed pancreatic cancer and died after only six months.

759 Soona'  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:12:38pm

re: #720 lifeofthemind

Cats size you up, literally, they wait for the day you are the size of mice.

One of the most accurate things that Stephen King wrote once is that cats are the gun-slingers of the animal world.

760 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:12:42pm

re: #756 vxbush

That, and a little nip goes a long way.

Racist! (or alcoholic!)

761 Kragar  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:12:56pm

Dog Diary versus Cat Diary

Dog Diary
8:00 am - Dog food! My favorite thing!
9:30 am - A car ride! My favorite thing!
9:40 am - A walk in the park! My favorite thing!
10:30 am - Got rubbed and petted! My favorite thing!
12:00 pm - Milk bones! My favorite thing!
1:00 pm - Played in the yard! My favorite thing!
3:00 pm - Wagged my tail! My favorite thing!
5:00 pm - Dinner! My favorite thing!
7:00 pm - Got to play ball! My favorite thing!
8:00 pm - Wow! Watched TV with the people! My favorite thing!
11:00 pm - Sleeping on the bed! My favorite thing!

Cat Diary

Day 983 of My Captivity

My captors continue to taunt me with bizarre little dangling objects. They dine lavishly on fresh meat, while the other inmates and I are fed hash or some sort of dry nuggets. Although I make my contempt for the rations perfectly clear, I nevertheless must eat something in order to keep up my strength.

The only thing that keeps me going is my dream of escape. In an attempt to disgust them, I once again vomit on the carpet. Today I decapitated a mouse and dropped its headless body at their feet. I had hoped this would strike fear into their hearts, since it clearly demonstrates my capabilities. However, they merely made condescending comments about what a "good little hunter" I am. Bastards!

There was some sort of assembly of their accomplices tonight. I was placed in solitary confinement for the duration of the event. However, I could hear the noises and smell the food. I overheard that my confinement was due to the power of "allergies." I must learn what this means, and how to use it to my advantage.

Today I was almost successful in an attempt to assassinate one of my tormentors by weaving around his feet as he was walking. I must try this again tomorrow, but at the top of the stairs.

I am convinced that the other prisoners here are flunkies and snitches. The dog receives special privileges. He is regularly released, and seems to be more than willing to return. He is obviously retarded. The bird must be an informant. I observe him communicate with the guards regularly. I am certain that he reports my every move. My captors have arranged protective custody for him in an elevated cell, so he is safe. For now ...

762 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:13:29pm

re: #752 jwb7605

That whole deal reeked of Randy Weaver scenarios.
I'm glad a pre-emptive strike was probably made.

Is that the Ruby Ridge dude?

763 Kragar  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:13:29pm

re: #754 albusteve

so do I....give me yours

Go fuck youself :)

764 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:13:30pm

re: #754 albusteve

so do I....give me yours

Socialism in action, folks!

765 NuDreamer  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:13:36pm

NYTimes Magazine quote (they are getting desperate):

"...This past year has been catastrophic for the New York Times. Advertising dropped off a cliff. The stock sank by 60 percent, and by fall, the paper had been rated a junk investment, announced plans to mortgage its new building, slashed dividends, and, as of last week, was printing ads on the front page. So dire had the situation become, observers began to entertain thoughts about whether the enterprise might dissolve entirely—Michael Hirschorn just published a piece in The Atlantic imagining an end date of (gulp) May. As this bad news crashed down, the jackals of Times hatred—right-wing ideologues and new-media hecklers alike—ate it up, finding confirmation of what they'd said all along: that the paper was a dinosaur, incapable of change, maddeningly assured as it sank beneath the weight of its own false authority."

jackals? okeey.

[Link: nymag.com...]

766 spidly  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:13:37pm

re: #726 wrenchwench

My (American) brother, who lives in Germany with his German wife, wanted our last name to be his daughters' middle names (no hyphenating allowed) so he had to convince the authorities that our last name is used as a girl's name here in the US. He made the claim and got away with it. I won't say what the name is, but it would be like having a girl named Johnson or something.

Wonder what they do if a goy wants to name a kid Avi or Yitzhak?

767 opnion  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:13:52pm

re: #742 jwb7605

The other night one of our cats was on my lap, and the other cat was on my wife's lap.

In about ten minutes, the two traded positions.

I said to my wife "You know they're setting us up for something, don't you?"


Be very careful & take turns sleeping. You have to watch them at all times. Two working together, whoa!

768 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:13:58pm

re: #725 x-wing

We are not in disagreement. If the state jumped the gun then yes, hammer them. I would like to see the "real" reason they yanked those kids.

Me too. But, these agencies have a LOOOONG track record of making shit up to suit themselves. They cannot be trusted, they follow no law but what they think should be followed, and they are protected by saying they cannot release info to protect the minor child.

769 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:14:04pm

re: #762 loppyd

Is that the Ruby Ridge dude?

Yes.

770 vxbush  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:14:12pm

re: #760 Guanxi88

Racist! (or alcoholic!)

I prefer alcoholicist, thank you.

771 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:14:27pm

re: #761 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

That is great! Sending to my traumatized mom.

772 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:14:32pm

re: #770 vxbush

I prefer alcoholicist, thank you.

My favorite denomination, by the way.

773 faraway  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:14:35pm
Memories of death camps and fascism have kept parents from christening their kids Adolf for quite some time. But one unlucky youngster acquired the name in 1949. He was the son of William Patrick Hitler—the dictator’s nephew, who moved to America in the 1930s to fight against his uncle. It isn’t clear why William preserved the name, but his four sons (including Alexander Adolf Hitler, now 57) made a pact to never have children in an effort to stunt der Fuehrer’s family tree at its branches.

[Link: www.mentalfloss.com...]

774 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:14:57pm

re: #731 Outrider

I'm not sure if that is good news or bad news. I don't care for the idea of state authorities rushing in and "confiscating" kids without even giving a reason, merely saying "see ya in court".

It seems a short step from rationalizing taking kids from a neo-nazi family to taking kids from a family the state "feels" has "bad" political beliefs. I suspect I have worded this badly, but hope not.

Perfect.

775 alegrias  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:14:57pm

re: #722 The Shadow Do

Re: the death of Ricardo Montalbam

He lived a long and comfortable life. Unlike many others of his generation.

Here is a footnote you won't find in his obituary: while the Stewarts, Alberts, and Gables were enlisting. Ricardo stayed home and worked on his career. He would not report, he was a Conscientious Objector don't you know.

* * *
Was Montalban a socialist raised south of the border, or did he become leftist here in the USA?

There are SO many spanish speaking latinos named "Vladimiro" "Ivan" "Illich" and other stalinist names, it's disturbing their parents named them after mass murderers.

776 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:14:59pm

re: #743 loppyd

I suspect something sinister was going on. If it was based on the name only then as much as I think these people are pigs the state has no right.

I also suspect that even if it wasn't, it will be reported as such and the burden of proof will end up going to the nutjob. If I remember the story a couple of days ago, they have very little money.

777 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:15:12pm
778 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:15:16pm

re: #759 Soona'

One of the most accurate things that Stephen King wrote once is that cats are the gun-slingers of the animal world.

Someone called them the gangsters of the animal world. Short, violent lives.

By that standard, my cat IS a puss.

/

779 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:15:29pm

re: #769 jwb7605

Yes.

Thanks...

780 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:15:30pm

re: #755 buzzsawmonkey

Now, is that any way to talk to a Time Magazine cover artist?

I tried hard to be that nuanced and genteel.......
/ :)

781 alegrias  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:15:50pm

re: #695 Who Watches the Watchmen?

How the hell does one even respond to a post like this?

* * *
"Loved the Carter Years?"

782 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:15:59pm

re: #763 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Go fuck youself :)

It's always pie with that guy.

I give him high marks for consistency.

;)

783 vxbush  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:16:01pm

re: #772 Guanxi88

My favorite denomination, by the way.

Actually, I don't think that means what you think it means.....

784 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:16:05pm

re: #752 jwb7605

That whole deal reeked of Randy Weaver scenarios.
I'm glad a pre-emptive strike was probably made.

You can't wish for the pre-emptive strike, those are YOUR rights being trampled, also.

785 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:16:11pm

re: #757 lobo91

Those House Banking Committee hearings sure were productive...

Barney Frank asking one witness after another, "So, tell us why you think this whole sub-pwime mowgatge cwisis is all Bush's fault..."

yeah...I'm thinking Jamie Gorlick...cya, subvert history

786 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:16:17pm

re: #722 The Shadow Do

Re: the death of Ricardo Montalbam

He lived a long and comfortable life. Unlike many others of his generation.

Here is a footnote you won't find in his obituary: while the Stewarts, Alberts, and Gables were enlisting. Ricardo stayed home and worked on his career. He would not report, he was a Conscientious Objector don't you know.

Do you have a link for that?

He was born in Mexico in 1920, was he a US citizen when WW-II broke out? I'd be surprised if he was allowed to take citizenship during the war if he wouldn't serve and if he was drafted and left to avoid service he would have been barred from reentry.

787 opnion  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:16:18pm

re: #748 David IV of Georgia
GHood post. What would be a really short book? try, 'Muslims in Space"

788 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:16:22pm

re: #753 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

So is naming your daughter "Reignbeaux" - Vin Diesel, I'm looking in your direction!

and all them kids in Zombies photos aren't? Double standards suck.

789 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:16:22pm

re: #776 Outrider

I also suspect that even if it wasn't, it will be reported as such and the burden of proof will end up going to the nutjob. If I remember the story a couple of days ago, they have very little money.

In my line of work sometimes you have to hold your nose to uphold the law...

790 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:16:27pm

re: #761 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I love that. Was looking to see if I could find it. Thanks......
:)

791 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:17:04pm

re: #761 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

LOL. Kitty Air Force reporting for duty.

792 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:17:19pm

re: #783 vxbush

Actually, I don't think that means what you think it means.....

What? Those are the Baptists who drink, aren't they?

793 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:17:21pm

re: #772 Guanxi88

My favorite denomination, by the way.

Does that mean my Al-Anon meetings are hate groups?

/

794 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:17:24pm

re: #753 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

So is naming your daughter "Reignbeaux" - Vin Diesel, I'm looking in your direction!

No, really?

795 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:17:25pm

Time to head home.

BBL maybe.

796 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:18:23pm

re: #778 OldLineTexan

Someone called them the gangsters of the animal world. Short, violent lives.

By that standard, my cat IS a puss.

/



Mafia Kitty

797 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:18:23pm

re: #726 wrenchwench

My (American) brother, who lives in Germany with his German wife, wanted our last name to be his daughters' middle names (no hyphenating allowed) so he had to convince the authorities that our last name is used as a girl's name here in the US. He made the claim and got away with it. I won't say what the name is, but it would be like having a girl named Johnson or something.


Like "Wallace" for example.

798 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:18:32pm

re: #793 OldLineTexan

Does that mean my Al-Anon meetings are hate groups?

/

No more than Lutherans are a hate group to Catholics.

799 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:18:42pm

re: #784 CapeCoddah

You can't wish for the pre-emptive strike, those are YOUR rights being trampled, also.

Depends on how high the circumstantial evidence pile is.
You might be right.

800 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:18:43pm

re: #762 loppyd

Is that the Ruby Ridge dude?

Yup.

801 opnion  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:19:04pm

re: #761 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

That is great! Where did you find it?

802 vxbush  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:19:40pm

re: #792 Guanxi88

What? Those are the Baptists who drink, aren't they?

Heh. If a racist hates other races, then an alcoholicist is....

/you fill in the blank.

803 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:19:43pm

re: #797 A Kiwi Infidel

Like "Wallace" for example.

Or "Grommit."

804 faraway  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:20:00pm

If they take away kids named Hitler, just think what they would do with a kid named Hussein.

805 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:20:08pm

re: #784 CapeCoddah

You can't wish for the pre-emptive strike, those are YOUR rights being trampled, also.

if the child is not in immediate physical danger, then the state should have to prove how the child (ren) are being abused and the impact on society.

This has the capability of being expanded to encompass a whole range of "crimes" against the state.

806 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:20:34pm

re: #804 faraway

If they take away kids named Hitler, just think what they would do with a kid named Hussein.

Elect him?

807 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:20:55pm

re: #751 Outrider

creation of wealth beats redistribution every time.

Redistribution merely shifts around the existing wealth, though some is lost in the process so you end up with a little less.

Creation of wealth, building factories, machines, inventions and such to enable more wealth to be produced, more crops harvested with less environmental damage, more metals mined without poisoning the soil, harnessing better and cleaner fuels all end up with a net increase in total wealth.

Chopping profits out too much too soon is like harvesting a crop before it is mature—you get a smaller inferior harvest. Indiscriminate taxing and redistribution ends up hurting everyone.

808 vxbush  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:20:57pm

Well, I have to go dig out my car from all the snow so I can start it up and warm it up while I'm scraping the windows so I can drive home bare knuckled until I slide into my driveway and my garage. I can't wait. Later, y'all

809 spidly  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:21:02pm

How about a dog named Phideaux?

810 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:21:02pm

re: #798 Guanxi88

No more than Lutherans are a hate group to Catholics.

Well, now I'm confused. Last Lutheran service I attended was chapel in kindergarten, and the only times I have been in a Catholic church have been for weddings and funerals.

I really don't know how mad they are at each other over the nail-hole in that door. ;)

811 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:21:09pm

re: #765 NuDreamer

Welcome, NuDreamer.

812 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:21:17pm

re: #794 redstateredneck

No, really?

Yeah. Makes "Apple" look wonderful in comparison.

813 lobo91  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:21:36pm

re: #785 albusteve

yeah...I'm thinking Jamie Gorlick...cya, subvert history

Ugh...I hadn't thought of her recently.

She seems to be one of the few morons left from the Clinton Administration who hasn't been nominated for something by Obambi.

I wonder why?

There's still plenty of stuff she could screw up...

814 vxbush  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:21:36pm

re: #809 spidly

How about a dog named Phideaux?

I would expect that dog to be named thus in Reine's home town.

/ah, the French

815 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:21:37pm

re: #808 vxbush

Well, I have to go dig out my car from all the snow so I can start it up and warm it up while I'm scraping the windows so I can drive home bare knuckled until I slide into my driveway and my garage. I can't wait. Later, y'all

Sounds like fun!

816 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:21:42pm

re: #802 vxbush

Heh. If a racist hates other races, then an alcoholicist is....

/you fill in the blank.

What? Come on, I think you're failing to distinguish between alcoholics and drunks, aren't you? A drunk is a nuisance, an alcoholic, well ...

817 Kragar  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:21:47pm

re: #806 jwb7605

Elect him?

ZING!

818 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:21:50pm

re: #799 jwb7605

Depends on how high the circumstantial evidence pile is.
You might be right.

were the kids in any immediate danger? They looked fed and taken care of a couple of days ago.

819 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:22:04pm

re: #731 Outrider

I'm not sure if that is good news or bad news. I don't care for the idea of state authorities rushing in and "confiscating" kids without even giving a reason, merely saying "see ya in court".

It seems a short step from rationalizing taking kids from a neo-nazi family to taking kids from a family the state "feels" has "bad" political beliefs. I suspect I have worded this badly, but hope not.

You did not word that badly at all, I understand your point.

The real problems that would come from allowing the child protection services to publicly announce the reasons for taking the kids come from the damaging nature of an accusation, not whether or not it is true. Say for instance my son was innocently injured in an accident, but the school nurse thought it was abuse and reported it, then some lazy flunkie (or over-zealous do-gooder) didn't believe my explanation, a public release of the accusation could be very damaging to me. On the other hand, if an accusation were true, what happens to the kids as a result of the public release of what happened to them? Peers can be quite cruel, as can the feelings that come from embarrassing revelations which the kids (or any actual victim) may be ill-equipped to deal with.

My only hope is that oversight of such services is rigorous.

820 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:22:22pm

re: #809 spidly

How about a dog named Phideaux?

That is a highly regarded Louisiana pet name.

821 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:22:23pm

re: #804 faraway

If they take away kids named Hitler, just think what they would do with a kid named Hussein.

zing. lol

822 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:22:33pm

re: #803 wrenchwench

Or "Grommit."


Grommits are for ears, no?

No, I was thinking more along the lines of Wallace Simpson who stole away with the Brit's Edward (the 7th?)

823 Soona'  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:22:35pm

re: #778 OldLineTexan

Someone called them the gangsters of the animal world. Short, violent lives.

By that standard, my cat IS a puss.

/

Same for mine.

824 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:22:36pm

re: #795 loppyd

Time to head home.

BBL maybe.

Night, Loppy, Stay in touch

825 vxbush  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:22:38pm

re: #816 Guanxi88

What? Come on, I think you're failing to distinguish between alcoholics and drunks, aren't you? A drunk is a nuisance, an alcoholic, well ...

Sorry, but I had an alcoholic for a parent who died of cirrhosis of the liver. It's still hard to get over sometimes.

Now, I really need to get out of here.

826 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:22:41pm

re: #808 vxbush

Well, I have to go dig out my car from all the snow so I can start it up and warm it up while I'm scraping the windows so I can drive home bare knuckled until I slide into my driveway and my garage. I can't wait. Later, y'all

Sliding into home. It's like baseball season.

827 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:23:04pm

re: #812 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Yeah. Makes "Apple" look wonderful in comparison.

How about "Moon Unit" and "Dweezil"?

828 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:23:07pm

re: #807 David IV of Georgia

Redistribution merely shifts around the existing wealth, though some is lost in the process so you end up with a little less.

Creation of wealth, building factories, machines, inventions and such to enable more wealth to be produced, more crops harvested with less environmental damage, more metals mined without poisoning the soil, harnessing better and cleaner fuels all end up with a net increase in total wealth.

Chopping profits out too much too soon is like harvesting a crop before it is mature—you get a smaller inferior harvest. Indiscriminate taxing and redistribution ends up hurting everyone.

legal plunder. (bastiat)

829 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:23:12pm

re: #810 OldLineTexan


I really don't know how mad they are at each other over the nail-hole in that door. ;)

Well, I once burned down a neighbor's woodpile over their failure to keep their tree trimmed and off my roof. I imagine that folks with larger differences could do more.

830 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:23:35pm

re: #813 lobo91

Ugh...I hadn't thought of her recently.

She seems to be one of the few morons left from the Clinton Administration who hasn't been nominated for something by Obambi.

I wonder why?

There's still plenty of stuff she could screw up...

she's a conceited, lying crook...
I hate the feds...they get people killed

831 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:24:42pm
832 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:24:49pm

re: #806 jwb7605

Elect him?

That deserves so many more updings than I can provide.

833 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:24:51pm

re: #826 OldLineTexan

Sliding into home. It's like baseball season.

the squeeze...the greatest play ever in any game...says I

834 Mike in Boulder  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:24:54pm

Lizards,

I had never heard of this writer, but I just became a fan.


Gaza's True 'Disproportion'

Carlos Alberto Montaner is a Cuban-born writer, journalist, and former professor. He is one of the most influential and widely-read columnists in the Spanish-language media, syndicated in dozens of publications in Latin America, Spain and the United States

835 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:25:13pm

re: #743 loppyd

I suspect something sinister was going on. If it was based on the name only then as much as I think these people are pigs the state has no right.

At some point a name is obviously a form of child abuse if there is a good chance that the name will cause the child to be harmed or to harm others.
For example, should you be allowed to name your child the "N" word?

836 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:25:15pm

re: #819 CyanSnowHawk

You did not word that badly at all, I understand your point.

The real problems that would come from allowing the child protection services to publicly announce the reasons for taking the kids come from the damaging nature of an accusation, not whether or not it is true. Say for instance my son was innocently injured in an accident, but the school nurse thought it was abuse and reported it, then some lazy flunkie (or over-zealous do-gooder) didn't believe my explanation, a public release of the accusation could be very damaging to me. On the other hand, if an accusation were true, what happens to the kids as a result of the public release of what happened to them? Peers can be quite cruel, as can the feelings that come from embarrassing revelations which the kids (or any actual victim) may be ill-equipped to deal with.

My only hope is that oversight of such services is rigorous.

There seems to have been an awful lot of people hurt through the services of Child Protective Services in various names throughout the country. Because it is "for the kids" we seem to be willing to overlook certain rights and procedures.

837 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:25:16pm
838 ted  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:25:19pm

re: #745 Killian Bundy

/redundant

True


3% Survival Rate.

839 lobo91  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:25:24pm

re: #830 albusteve

she's a conceited, lying crook...
I hate the feds...they get people killed

Maybe they're saving her as a backup nominee for DCI, in case Leon Panetta develops some sort of "illness" or something...

840 avanti  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:25:29pm

re: #519 karmic_inquisitor

More manipulation of climate data?

Statistical analysis shows NASA published climate data may be hand manipulated

Amazing when you apply science (in this case statistics) to validate "scientific" data.

This should upset every taxpayer and warrant a full investigation and audit of NASA's climatology numbers and methods.


Let me get this straight. Someone runs a computer program on the distribution of numbers in a data set and decides that they do meet some math model, so NASA is conspiring to fake the data ?
If I flip a coin 10 times, I should get 5 heads and 5 tails, but even if I get 10 heads, it's statistically a 50-50 chance that I'll get another head or tail. I doubt if NASA would even bother to reply, but perhaps we can spent a few million to see if NASA scientests are part of a conspiracy.
There are plenty of area's where climate change needs more research, but I personally don't see a government plot here.

841 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:26:39pm

re: #809 spidly

How about a dog named Phideaux?

Or a bar fighter named Phileaux Bedeaux ;>}

/it's your fault ,you made me think of it.

842 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:26:45pm

re: #805 Outrider

if the child is not in immediate physical danger, then the state should have to prove how the child (ren) are being abused and the impact on society.

This has the capability of being expanded to encompass a whole range of "crimes" against the state.

I have done so much research on this, thousands of hours, when a friends child was taken illegally. You would not believe the sewer that is the social services system. They can be rather SS like themselves. They have no respect for state or federal law. I was at my friends home when a social worker showed up there, and several minutes into the conversation, I pointed out that they were CLEARLY violating my friends constitutional rights. the reply, and I kid you not was and I quote, "We don't go by that here." I damned near had to have my jaw wired shut, it fell so far.

843 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:26:52pm

re: #834 Mike in Boulder

Good piece.

844 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:27:05pm
845 Peter Verkooijen  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:27:27pm

Eric Cantor on Fox talking about the bailouts 5 minutes ago. Please don't let this weasel be the future of the Republican party!

I thought Cantor was one of the good guys, but he's horrible. He was asked whether he supported the bailouts and couldn't give a straight answer.

Cantor was striking so many bipartisan notes any anti-bailout message got completely lost. He had some weak criticism for the Dems in Congress, but was sucking up to Obama, taking his "support for the middle class" rhetoric at face value.

Disgusting performance.

846 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:28:10pm

I just waded through the Democratic Underground sewar and guess what?

They hate Obama already.

Calling him a Stalin instead of a Lenin.

/I gotta go take a shower...

847 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:28:11pm

re: #818 Outrider

were the kids in any immediate danger? They looked fed and taken care of a couple of days ago.

I have no idea.
I read the original story, and thought "this isn't headed anywhere good".
Naming your kids like that has more fundamental issues, several of which are traceable to internet activity in a lot of cases.
I mentioned Randy Weaver -- Ruby Ridge -- because I had always hoped there were other ways to deal with the issue. I'd much rather see this than what happened to Randy's 13-year old.

I've always thought that Tim McVeigh was getting even for Ruby Ridge.

How about Waco?

848 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:28:30pm

re: #757 lobo91

Those House Banking Committee hearings sure were productive...

Barney Frank asking one witness after another, "So, tell us why you think this whole sub-pwime mowgatge cwisis is all Bush's fault..."

Simple answer?
Because he did not call for your resignation for malfeasance Mr. Frank.

849 opnion  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:28:42pm

Well no matter what you think of the New Administarton & Congress at least Roland Burris will be on the case. He will do well because he has accomplished, uh, um, er, well you know, has to be something.

850 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:28:48pm

re: #839 lobo91

Maybe they're saving her as a backup nominee for DCI, in case Leon Panetta develops some sort of "illness" or something...

a perfect fit...

851 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:28:50pm

re: #842 CapeCoddah

I have done so much research on this, thousands of hours, when a friends child was taken illegally. You would not believe the sewer that is the social services system. They can be rather SS like themselves. They have no respect for state or federal law. I was at my friends home when a social worker showed up there, and several minutes into the conversation, I pointed out that they were CLEARLY violating my friends constitutional rights. the reply, and I kid you not was and I quote, "We don't go by that here." I damned near had to have my jaw wired shut, it fell so far.

I've seen the exact same thing here in Georgia and in Florida. I see the need for child protective services. But, like any other agency, they should have to go before a judge and get the warrant. I would have no problems with it being a "sealed" judge; as long as there was SOME form of accountability, which at present is lacking.

852 faraway  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:29:13pm

re: #833 albusteve

the squeeze...the greatest play ever in any game...says I

Several years ago, I witnessed the ultimate suicide squeeze. Runner at 3rd took off as the pitcher is winding up. Batter just stood there. Slid in safe.

The kid was later named SEC freshman of the year

853 alegrias  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:29:53pm

re: #849 opnion

Well no matter what you think of the New Administarton & Congress at least Roland Burris will be on the case. He will do well because he has accomplished, uh, um, er, well you know, has to be something.

* * *
Burris' pre-carved tombstone has his resume printed on it, yes, look it up.

854 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:29:59pm

re: #827 OldLineTexan

How about "Moon Unit" and "Dweezil"?


With names like that, your destiny is pretty much mapped out at birth. ;>}

855 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:30:02pm
856 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:30:08pm

I'm heading home, Lizards. Have a good night, y'all.

857 filetandrelease  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:30:18pm

There is more and more talk off a ten day truce. I think a good puke is in order.

If this truce happens Hamas is going to declare victory and Israel will once again look foolish in the eyes of the 4.9 billion people who aren't really paying attention. I take that back, if Israel agrees to this 10 day truce they are foolish and it will be blatantly obvious to the entire world.

858 faraway  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:30:27pm

re: #835 Spare O'Lake

At some point a name is obviously a form of child abuse if there is a good chance that the name will cause the child to be harmed or to harm others.
For example, should you be allowed to name your child the "N" word?

If the state issues you a birth certificate, they must be "blessing" the name.

859 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:30:28pm

re: #731 Outrider

I'm not sure if that is good news or bad news. I don't care for the idea of state authorities rushing in and "confiscating" kids without even giving a reason, merely saying "see ya in court".

It seems a short step from rationalizing taking kids from a neo-nazi family to taking kids from a family the state "feels" has "bad" political beliefs. I suspect I have worded this badly, but hope not.

No, you worded it well. I find the naming of those kids despicable and just plain stupid but unless there were other aggravating factors, the State needs to stay away.
I used to smoke when my kids were young......we're not far from a time when that may be considered abusive and justification for the State to take away kids.
The State can be very dangerous - whichever political persuasion controls it - and it needs to be watched carefully. And for the watching to be effective, it requires an armed citizenry.

860 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:30:30pm

re: #835 Spare O'Lake

At some point a name is obviously a form of child abuse if there is a good chance that the name will cause the child to be harmed or to harm others.
For example, should you be allowed to name your child the "N" word?

What about naming a boy "Sue"?
(Maybe he'll grow to be a lawyer?)

861 yochanan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:30:30pm

re: #849 opnion

if roland just shows up he will be doing more than the ZERO ever did

862 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:30:48pm
863 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:30:54pm

re: #854 x-wing

With names like that, your destiny is pretty much mapped out at birth. ;>}

What is that Olympic skier's name? Something rather hippie, she turned out just fine.

864 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:31:08pm

re: #854 x-wing

With names like that, your destiny is pretty much mapped out at birth. ;>}

Those are Frank Zappa's kid's names.

865 Mike in Boulder  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:31:08pm

re: #843 redstateredneck

Glad you liked it. It is comforting to know there are "voices of reason" speaking outside the U.S.

866 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:31:17pm

re: #813 lobo91

Ugh...I hadn't thought of her recently.

She seems to be one of the few morons left from the Clinton Administration who hasn't been nominated for something by Obambi.

I wonder why?

There's still plenty of stuff she could screw up...

They'll put her in charge of Homeland security.....you watch.
///

867 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:31:45pm

re: #786 lifeofthemind

Do you have a link for that?

He was born in Mexico in 1920, was he a US citizen when WW-II broke out? I'd be surprised if he was allowed to take citizenship during the war if he wouldn't serve and if he was drafted and left to avoid service he would have been barred from reentry.

No, no link though he is on record somewhere at the time making such a statement. In fairness, he was always a Mexican citizen. He also garnered a lot of ill will from American men his age as he set about backfilling acting jobs.

868 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:31:46pm

re: #847 jwb7605

I have no idea.
I read the original story, and thought "this isn't headed anywhere good".
Naming your kids like that has more fundamental issues, several of which are traceable to internet activity in a lot of cases.
I mentioned Randy Weaver -- Ruby Ridge -- because I had always hoped there were other ways to deal with the issue. I'd much rather see this than what happened to Randy's 13-year old.

I've always thought that Tim McVeigh was getting even for Ruby Ridge.

How about Waco?

no. These parents aren't Good Housekeeping front page material. But, taking the kids on that basis alone is not what this country is about. I suspect the story about the birthday cake pushed some "well meaning" bureaucrat into action.

869 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:31:48pm

re: #862 taxfreekiller

McCain will lead about 14 RINO's to the aid of Obama and the Commies.

We have to deal with these within the R's first. Then we deal with the commies who took over the Democrat Party.

Once we do that, this global warming, climate change loon dip shit crap will be next, then the msm liars.

Then we will be able to defend the Constitution and our Country and its borders.

First things first.

The RINO's are a real danger to us all.

I'm worried McCain will lead "the gang of forty".

870 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:31:59pm
871 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:32:12pm

re: #863 jwb7605

What is that Olympic skier's name? Something rather hippie, she turned out just fine.

Except for the chapped lips.

Picabo (pronounced Peek-a-boo) Street.

I'm not sure if that's hippie or just foreign.

872 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:32:29pm

re: #868 Outrider

no. These parents aren't Good Housekeeping front page material. But, taking the kids on that basis alone is not what this country is about. I suspect the story about the birthday cake pushed some "well meaning" bureaucrat into action.

I hope you're wrong.
You're probably not.

873 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:32:38pm
874 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:32:45pm

series of explosions in Gaza town tonight.

875 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:32:52pm

re: #761 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

ROTFLMAO

I regrett that I only have one ding to give that post.

876 yochanan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:33:00pm

re: #862 taxfreekiller

this type of thing will lead the gop to become a twin of the LOZERTARIAN PARTY.
FRANKLY THIS WHOLE R.I.N.O. STUFF JUST S....S

877 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:33:02pm

re: #798 Guanxi88

No more than Lutherans are a hate group to Catholics.

My wife is a Lutheran and I'm a Catholic. She hates me when I don't help around the house.........
/

878 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:33:04pm

re: #852 faraway

Several years ago, I witnessed the ultimate suicide squeeze. Runner at 3rd took off as the pitcher is winding up. Batter just stood there. Slid in safe.

The kid was later named SEC freshman of the year

dont see it much at all anymore and I dont know why...it takes the right combination of players to pull it off and it's a risk...

879 jamgarr  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:33:10pm

40 below! Is that Fahrenheit or Celsius?

First one - then t'other

/props to Futurama

880 Stonemason  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:33:23pm

re: #840 avanti

AGW is being debunked more all the time, get over it.

881 Soona'  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:33:36pm

re: #835 Spare O'Lake

At some point a name is obviously a form of child abuse if there is a good chance that the name will cause the child to be harmed or to harm others.
For example, should you be allowed to name your child the "N" word?

My drill sergeant changed my name to Shithead. Does that count?

882 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:33:46pm

re: #864 OldLineTexan

Those are Frank Zappa's kid's names.

And his comment was to the effect of, "It's their last name that will give them trouble."

883 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:33:48pm

re: #868 Outrider

no. These parents aren't Good Housekeeping front page material. But, taking the kids on that basis alone is not what this country is about. I suspect the story about the birthday cake pushed some "well meaning" bureaucrat into action.

The parents should sue, and they will end up with tax money in their pockets.

Thanks, dufii.

884 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:33:51pm

re: #744 opnion

You can usually find your dog. Take a step & you usually trip over it.
But your cat? The thing disappears, usually to some seditious meeting to learn how to kill it's owner.

Cats most definitely do not want to kill their owners. They would then have no one to wait on them.

I know, I have 4 cats. Plus a dog.

885 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:34:01pm

re: #631 CapeCoddah

Not what I meant. Look at what happened in Texas. As much as this couple suck, and should be reviled, If the names were why these kids were taken, it undermines parental rights for every citizen.

My grandson has the same name as a notorious serial killer, but it also happens to be a family name (we are not related to the serial killer with the same name). The difference is that my grandson was NOT named after the serial killer, but this couple did knowingly name their innocent child after a mass murderer because they admire his genocidal acts.

886 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:34:02pm

re: #734 jcm

Major tax cuts have happened 4 times.
Wilson, Kennedy, Reagan, Bush. Each time the economy grew and revenue to the government increased. Ireland cut corporate taxes 80%, and is booming.

Tax cuts work every time they are tried.

And I don't think we've ever hit the optimum set of tax rates for collecting revenues...... the point called T* on the Laffer curve..... meaning that even the four cuts you mention could have been larger and more effective.

887 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:34:05pm

fecal matter is hitting the fan in Gaza

888 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:34:13pm

re: #871 OldLineTexan

Except for the chapped lips.

Picabo (pronounced Peek-a-boo) Street.

I'm not sure if that's hippie or just foreign.

Both, I think. I thought the chapped lips were attractive. Outdoorsey.
MSM checked out her parents and family, and it was definitely hippie looking.

889 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:34:18pm

Lizards, if social services EVER knocks on your door, tell them to leave. DO NOT let them in the house. Ask them for a warrant, which they MUST HAVE as an agent of the state. If they say they will go get the police, tell them to do so. Then ready a tape recorder. When they get back with the police, which they will, the officer will demand entrance. Ask HIM if he has a warrant, and when he says no, ask him to leave, and take the social worker with him. If they force their way in, they are screwed. They may only enter your home without permission under exigent circumstances, or, they lose their immunity, and can be sued personally and professionally.

890 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:34:26pm

Something going on at gazacam, but I can't see it, I can only hear it.

891 yochanan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:34:29pm

MAYBE THE PERFECT CIRCULAR FIRING SQUAD CROWD SHOULD START THERE OWN PARTY.

892 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:34:31pm

blasts all over the place now

893 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:34:36pm
894 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:34:40pm

Lots of really loud explosions on the GazaCam.

895 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:34:45pm

Tanks gone wild baby. Getting real up -close now.

896 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:35:21pm

re: #871 OldLineTexan

Except for the chapped lips.

Picabo (pronounced Peek-a-boo) Street.

I'm not sure if that's hippie or just foreign.

I thought it was an American Indian tribe?

897 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:35:27pm

re: #744 opnion

You can usually find your dog. Take a step & you usually trip over it.
But your cat? The thing disappears, usually to some seditious meeting to learn how to kill it's owner.

Oh, your cat is doing more than that. . . . .

898 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:35:33pm

Heavy automatic weapons fire now.

899 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:35:41pm

re: #866 LGoPs

They'll put her in charge of Homeland security.....you watch.
///

What, Huma Abedin's got another job?

900 faraway  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:35:45pm

duck

901 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:35:47pm

re: #882 wrenchwench

And his comment was to the effect of, "It's their last name that will give them trouble."

Well, Dweezil did end up as an MTV vee-jay for a while...

902 spidly  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:35:57pm

What if you just want to use IPA spelling for a name?

say.... ˈdʒɛnəfər or ˈmaɪkəl

903 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:36:03pm

The names of the children, H*tler, Aryan and Hinler, alone are no reason for Child Protective Services to get involved. That the parents named the children these atrocious names gives reason to suspect there might be reason to investigate further. But unless there is more than these names at stake, I think the parents should get their children back no problem.

Gaza just got noisy.

904 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:36:04pm

re: #863 jwb7605

What is that Olympic skier's name? Something rather hippie, she turned out just fine.


Peekaboo Street. That is kinda cool tho'

905 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:36:07pm

lot of tracers going off from the one tank

906 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:36:16pm

Heads up Gaza cam!

Merkava fire point blank.

Rockets all over the place and auto weapons fire.

ACHMED
RUN!,
R

907 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:36:31pm

Gazacam showing heavy tank fire and looks like RPG's.

908 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:36:33pm

re: #849 opnion

Well no matter what you think of the New Administarton & Congress at least Roland Burris will be on the case. He will do well because he has accomplished, uh, um, er, well you know, has to be something.

More than Obama. I grew up in Chicago and I'm familiar with Burris' name. Can't remember what ed zachary he did but I know it was a helluva lot more than community organizing....

909 Soona'  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:36:47pm

re: #871 OldLineTexan

Except for the chapped lips.

Picabo (pronounced Peek-a-boo) Street.

I'm not sure if that's hippie or just foreign.

It's hippie. She said so once in an interview.

910 akak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:36:53pm

I'm optimistic about all the optimism in Gaza.

/optimism off

Optimistic that Hamas pisses on Obama's day, and the IDF can finish the job. Only question is who monitors the Egypt/Gaza border.

911 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:36:54pm

Lots of flashes.

Camera guy woke up, is trying to find the action.

912 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:37:08pm

re: #851 Outrider

I've seen the exact same thing here in Georgia and in Florida. I see the need for child protective services. But, like any other agency, they should have to go before a judge and get the warrant. I would have no problems with it being a "sealed" judge; as long as there was SOME form of accountability, which at present is lacking.

Dont get me wrong, Outrider, the need for child protection cannot be understated. But, The current system is so broken, it needs to be dismantled in every state and fixed.

913 opnion  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:37:08pm

re: #853 alegrias

* * *
Burris' pre-carved tombstone has his resume printed on it, yes, look it up.

Yes he does. It is actually a mausoleum & the listing begins with 'Trailblazer"
He left enough room for Governor or Senator & now he has it.

914 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:37:09pm

wonder what happened to that bus that was driving that way just before this stuff erupted?

915 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:37:48pm

re: #891 yochanan

MAYBE THE PERFECT CIRCULAR FIRING SQUAD CROWD SHOULD START THERE OWN PARTY.

Too late; some of the Conservatives here are already shooting their fellow nominal Republicans...the "socons" /cue "Empire" theme music

916 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:37:48pm

re: #894 Bubblehead II

Lots of really loud explosions on the GazaCam.

Achmed was right on the fight, and now he decides to move the camera around.

/grrr,Achmed,grrrr

917 Peter Verkooijen  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:37:49pm

re: #846 experiencedtraveller

I just waded through the Democratic Underground sewar and guess what?
They hate Obama already.
Calling him a Stalin instead of a Lenin.
/I gotta go take a shower...

I looked up that post. Here it is:

oldbolshevik Donating Member (4 posts)
Sun Jan-11-09 06:59 PM
Response to Original message
89. Unexamined Cult of Personality

Comrades

During the election, Comrade Obama distanced himself from his progressive collectivist roots and denied that he was a true socialist.

Instead his handlers built a cult of personality and his managed speeches were only platitudes where we heard what we wanted to hear. It should have been an indicator when the only time Comrade Obama spoke truthfully about the reactionary forces in fascist Amerikkka was in front of a secret meeting with billionaires and industrialists on "Nob Hill".

The cadres in the media sold themselves to this flashy cult of personality and failed to examine why a committed progressive socialist denied his mentors - revolutionary heroes like Comrades Frank Davis; Bill Ayers; and Bernadine Dohrn - and his roots as a enemy of the plutocrats in order to curry favor with class enemies like the Wall Street blood suckers Jim Johnson and Franklin Raines.

Consider that Comrade Obama rejected public financing and his handlers deliberately set up his web site to allow fictitious donations. Who bought the election? Who bought our HOPE so they could derail CHANGE and make sure it was MORE OF THE SAME.

We have been sold a Stalin where we believed in a Lenin, comrades.

International financiers like Soros are manipulating the progressive popular front to ensure that the working classes are kept in slavery to the plutocrats. Obama is a class traitor.

Wow. Weird, revealing stuff. Very depressing.

918 gregg  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:38:12pm

Camille Paglia on Katie Couric:

And let me take this opportunity to say that of all the innumerable print and broadcast journalists who have interviewed me in the U.S. and abroad since I arrived on the scene nearly 20 years ago, Katie Couric was definitively the stupidest. As a guest on NBC's "Today" show during my 1992 book tour, I was astounded by Couric's small, humorless, agenda-ridden mind, still registered in that pinched, tinny monotone that makes me rush across the room to change stations whenever her banal mini-editorials blare out at 5 p.m. on the CBS radio network. And of course I would never spoil my dinner by tuning into Couric's TV evening news show. That sallow, wizened, drum-tight, cosmetic mummification look is not an appetite enhancer outside of Manhattan or L.A. There's many a moose in Alaska with greater charm and pizazz.

[Link: www.salon.com...]

919 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:38:27pm
920 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:38:44pm

re: #896 reine.de.tout

I thought it was an American Indian tribe?

Indian name from hippie parents

921 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:38:47pm

re: #896 reine.de.tout

I thought it was an American Indian tribe?

I am no expert on the hundreds of tribe names. It very well could be. Obviously the Picabo were always delighting infants...

922 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:38:47pm

Who snuffed the rooster?

923 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:38:48pm

re: #904 x-wing

Peekaboo Street. That is kinda cool tho'

I totally agree!
Somebody (Reine) posted that it is spelled "Picabo".

924 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:39:01pm

re: #906 Render

Heads up Gaza cam!

Merkava fire point blank.

Rockets all over the place and auto weapons fire.

ACHMED
RUN!, DIE!
R


Fixed it, as long as Achmed is a terrorist.

925 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:39:08pm

re: #912 CapeCoddah

Dont get me wrong, Outrider, the need for child protection cannot be understated. But, The current system is so broken, it needs to be dismantled in every state and fixed.

just bring in the requirement to appear before a judge and justify your request for a warrant. (the records can be sealed as long as there is oversight.

926 opnion  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:39:23pm

re: #884 reine.de.tout

Cats most definitely do not want to kill their owners. They would then have no one to wait on them.

I know, I have 4 cats. Plus a dog.

Actually, I am only having a little fun about cats. You do know that cats are Democrats, they take your stuff & then despise you anyway.

927 jcm  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:39:24pm

re: #840 avanti

Let me get this straight. Someone runs a computer program on the distribution of numbers in a data set and decides that they do meet some math model, so NASA is conspiring to fake the data ?
If I flip a coin 10 times, I should get 5 heads and 5 tails, but even if I get 10 heads, it's statistically a 50-50 chance that I'll get another head or tail. I doubt if NASA would even bother to reply, but perhaps we can spent a few million to see if NASA scientests are part of a conspiracy.
There are plenty of area's where climate change needs more research, but I personally don't see a government plot here.

The famous of "Hockey Stick" of Global Warming is a out and out fraud. Both the model and the data where altered to get the hockey stick.

The Hockey Stick scam that heightened global warming hysteria

The hockey stick fiasco was unmasked by a basic scientific test known as reproducible results. Other scientists use the same data and procedures to try and reproduce the original findings. Steve McIntyre and Ross McKitrick (M&M) attempted, but failed to reproduce the MBH98 findings. A debate ensued with claims M&M were wrong or not qualified climate experts. They replied that Mann had refused to disclose all the codes he used to achieve the results, but even without them the major problem was a misuse of data and statistical techniques. In effect the hockey stick was meaningless.
928 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:39:34pm

re: #885 Alouette

My grandson has the same name as a notorious serial killer, but it also happens to be a family name (we are not related to the serial killer with the same name). The difference is that my grandson was NOT named after the serial killer, but this couple did knowingly name their innocent child after a mass murderer because they admire his genocidal acts.

They are free to do that. Sick as it is.

929 Mike in Boulder  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:39:49pm

Here is an interesting perspective on demographics, UNRWA and how they are fomenting the problems with Gaza.

Ending the West's Proxy War Against Israel

930 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:39:55pm

re: #840 avanti

They are not saying it's a conspiracy by a governmental agency, just the conspiracy of one person. It's simple really, all numbers in nature aren't simple numbers. Knowing this you can scan a database of readings and find true randomness. If the readings are recorded correctly, in a scientific database they should be, this will show up in an analysis. If the numbers are too neat, that will show up as well. What the analysis is showing is that the numbers are too neat and tidy.

931 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:40:03pm

lotsa stuff goin off in the stripre: #909 Soona'

It's hippie. She said so once in an interview.

one of the most fun skiiers ever to watch...very aggressive

932 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:40:06pm

Was that a tank gun I just saw?

933 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:40:07pm

re: #914 Outrider

wonder what happened to that bus that was driving that way just before this stuff erupted?

Safer there than in New Orleans.

/fewer fish in it, too

934 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:40:11pm

re: #909 Soona'

It's hippie. She said so once in an interview.

Her parents were hippies. I believe the name is American Indian of some sort

935 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:40:12pm

re: #920 eschew_obfuscation

Indian name from hippie parents

Right! I remember that now! upding!

936 ted  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:40:34pm

re: #820 redstateredneck

That is a highly regarded Louisiana pet name.

How about a dog named Stains ?

937 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:40:49pm
938 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:40:59pm

re: #920 eschew_obfuscation

Indian name from hippie parents


Her given name was inspired by the nearby Idaho town of Picabo, Idaho, (pronounced "Peekaboo"), which in turn takes its name from a Native American word meaning "shining waters".
939 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:41:19pm

re: #922 Killgore Trout

Who snuffed the rooster?

Wasn't me!

/hides jar of thyme

940 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:42:13pm

re: #917 Peter Verkooijen

That came from dkos? They arer a little slow on the uptake.

941 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:42:21pm

fourth of July down there.

942 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:42:38pm

re: #924 Kosh's Shadow

Achmed is our camerman, I'd like to keep him around for a while if you don't mind. He sux at camera work, but he's all we got.

re: #932 Guanxi88

Yes.

120MM
FTW,
R

943 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:42:49pm

re: #884 reine.de.tout

Cats most definitely do not want to kill their owners. They would then have no one to wait on them.

I know, I have 4 cats. Plus a dog.

I like cats, honest carnivores, I have had both cats and a dog. The cats came in two flavors one was dumb but lovable the other was very smart and meaner than spit.

944 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:42:52pm

yippie ki yay! Lit that puppy up!

945 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:43:16pm

re: #940 x-wing

That came from dkos? They arer a little slow on the uptake.

Do we have rotating understatements? I have found one...

946 filetandrelease  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:43:20pm

re: #918 gregg

HaHa, Camille is great.

947 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:43:41pm

re: #520 loppyd

Sounds fun. Is reine's email enabled? If not and you have mine, feel free to send it along.

nic is blue.

948 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:43:42pm

WP air burst.

BURN,
R

949 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:43:45pm

re: #925 Outrider

just bring in the requirement to appear before a judge and justify your request for a warrant. (the records can be sealed as long as there is oversight.

In most states, this happens in juvenile court. Also in most states, Juvenile judges cannot issue warrants.

950 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:43:58pm

Willie-P. Whatever they hit, it sure is burning pretty.

951 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:44:00pm

re: #942 Render

Achmed is our camerman, I'd like to keep him around for a while if you don't mind. He sux at camera work, but he's all we got.

re: #932 Guanxi88

Yes.

120MM
FTW,
R


OK; I thought you were referring to another terrorist. The cameraman is unwittingly feeding info to the Israelis as well as making the rooster an international star. (I hope he doesn't get cocky.)

952 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:44:03pm

I'm outta here.
Later, lizards.

953 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:44:09pm

It's about damned time something happened down there. Finally, the producers in Tel Aviv got my email and are turning this show around!

954 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:44:12pm

re: #916 x-wing

Probably trying to find where they are coming from and where they are hitting. Just pull the zoom back and give us a wide angle view already.

955 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:44:43pm

re: #926 opnion

Actually, I am only having a little fun about cats. You do know that cats are Democrats, they take your stuff & then despise you anyway.

One of my two cats was playing with one of my grandkids at Christmas. Grandson was playing with our olde "Mr. Potatohead". (screw you, spellchecker, I'm no Dan Quayle!).

When the grandkids left for the evening, the cat stole every part except for the head, and piled them up neatly on the spare bed, and slept with the pieces.

And that's the "evil" cat! He's good buddies with the grandkids, never scratched them once.

OT: my wife tried to buy "spare parts" for Mr. Potatohead, and discovered the design has changed, and the parts won't fit the original models.

956 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:45:14pm

Nominations to name the Roostercam worker?

HAMASTAN Harry?
Gaza Town Gerry?

957 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:45:27pm

re: #937 Iron Fist

More generally, don't talk to a cop any more than absolutly necessary without a lawyer present. That part when they say "Anything you say can and will be used against you...", they mean that.

That is what the tape recorder is for. When the cop and the worker knock, you answer the door, make sure they see you turn it on, and ask for the warrant. Any cop with a single working brain cell will understand and go away, taking the worker with them.

958 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:45:58pm
959 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:46:32pm

re: #923 jwb7605

I totally agree!
Somebody (Reine) posted that it is spelled "Picabo".

Reine nailed it. I wasn't sure so I just put it up the best way I could.(the way it sounds) ;>}

960 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:46:37pm

Heads up. I just received an email from my vet.....

PET HEALTH ALERT!

There are increasing reports of serious illness and kidney
failure associated with feeding pet treats containing chicken that
are made in China. Please check the country of origin of any treats you
might be feeding your furry friends. At his time we are
recommending that you discontinue feeding ALL products that are made in China until further notice.

961 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:46:38pm

re: #949 CapeCoddah

In most states, this happens in juvenile court. Also in most states, Juvenile judges cannot issue warrants.

that can be changed to make this entire family services more accountable than it is presently.

962 Peter Verkooijen  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:46:43pm

re: #862 taxfreekiller

We have to deal with the clueless conservatives who don't understand economic issues, don't know how to counter the socialists and are most likely to give Obama the benefit of the doubt.

I'd count McCain among the clueless conservatives. The "conservative base" rejected Giuliani and Romney. Conservatives by definition make the Republican party the party of the past.

963 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:46:52pm

BIG boom on gazacam...

flares going off.

IDF night time battle kicking off again.

964 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:47:07pm

re: #958 buzzsawmonkey

It's a potato, fer cryin' out loud.

I knoe that. Spell checker was pissy.

965 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:47:24pm

Good (almost) evening, Lizards!

966 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:47:40pm

Is there another Gazacam feed? I am seeing nothing interesting on [Link: switch434-01.castup.net...]

967 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:47:47pm

re: #840 avanti

Let me get this straight. Someone runs a computer program on the distribution of numbers in a data set and decides that they do meet some math model, so NASA is conspiring to fake the data ?
If I flip a coin 10 times, I should get 5 heads and 5 tails, but even if I get 10 heads, it's statistically a 50-50 chance that I'll get another head or tail. I doubt if NASA would even bother to reply, but perhaps we can spent a few million to see if NASA scientests are part of a conspiracy.
There are plenty of area's where climate change needs more research, but I personally don't see a government plot here.

What they have done is run a statistical test that tries to determine if the distribution of certain digits in the numerical data is truly random (as it should be, if the data are all genuine). If some digits are under or over-represented in the presented data, that suggests there may have been some manual editing.

It's not proof that the GISS data are falsified, and it is not being claimed as such. But it is a very good reason to be subjecting the GISS data to more stringent oversight.

FWIW, Steve McIntyre at Climate Audit doesn't see a smoking gun here either, although he has plenty of evidence of plain bad data in Hansen's work.

968 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:48:19pm
969 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:48:31pm

re: #943 lifeofthemind

I like cats, honest carnivores, I have had both cats and a dog. The cats came in two flavors one was dumb but lovable the other was very smart and meaner than spit.

My cats - the calico is crazy, certifiably so
then we have a shy one, a stupid one, and a very old one (18 years) who moves very slowly and can't really jump up anymore.

They are hilarious - follow us when we walk the dog.

970 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:48:34pm

re: #836 Outrider

There seems to have been an awful lot of people hurt through the services of Child Protective Services in various names throughout the country. Because it is "for the kids" we seem to be willing to overlook certain rights and procedures.

But that's the thing. CPS everywhere, no matter the name is walking a fine line between pulling apart families on suspicions and letting abuse go on too long. I have a friend in the area that worked for the local CPS and making the wrong choice was a constant fear. To take it to the extremes on the one side you have the potential for a huge lawsuit that will damage your ability to do your job and protect children from abuse and on the other you fail to protect children from abuse and potentially have dead children. You lose and kids are hurt either way if you make the wrong choice. On top of that, you are making these choices in the context of the conditions in your department, where you likely have much too big a caseload, possible political pressure from the latest screwup that made the news (even if it wasn't your department that did it), and the mix of employees in your department, which run the gamut from enlightened guardian angel to lazy slob collecting a paycheck who can't be fired due to union rules.

Frankly, I'm surprised we don't have more failures in this endeavor. (On second thought no I'm not, the vast majority of people in these CPS services do the right thing and we only hear about the screwups. Problem is, we keep hearing about them no matter how good the service is.)

971 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:48:35pm

Saw one inbound rocket.

Another WP airburst.

Lots of AK rattle.

This is all much closer to Achmeds position then anything yet. Hard to tell for sure but it looks like no more then 20 or 30 city blocks away.

HANG
ON,
R

972 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:48:37pm

re: #966 lifeofthemind

Is there another Gazacam feed? I am seeing nothing interesting on [Link: switch434-01.castup.net...]


[Link: switch206-01.castup.net...]

973 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:49:01pm

re: #968 buzzsawmonkey

No, I meant, "How can the parts not fit a potato--any potato?"

>

hahaha!...they dont get it!

974 DeafDog  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:49:05pm

re: #962 Peter Verkooijen

It took a while for me to warm up to Romney, but I liked him towards the end of the Primaries. I hope he runs again.

975 avanti  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:49:28pm

re: #880 Stonemason

AGW is being debunked more all the time, get over it.

This is not the forum to discuss the issue. I can't even prove we didn't land on the moon to some skeptics because of conspiracy theories. As long as this is a left/right issue, neither side will give it a fair discussion.
The issue the right is going to have to deal with is that even the Bush administration flipped on the issue, and you know how Obama feels. There is no question that the world will start to deal with climate change, the right will have to make sure they don't throw the baby out with the bath water in the attempt and push for restraint.

976 jamgarr  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:49:36pm

re: #958 buzzsawmonkey

It's a potato, fer cryin' out loud.

You're talkin' the orginal, original Mr. Potatohead! LOL!

977 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:49:43pm

Wow, see that?

978 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:49:55pm
979 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:50:35pm

re: #962 Peter Verkooijen

We have to deal with the clueless conservatives who don't understand economic issues, don't know how to counter the socialists and are most likely to give Obama the benefit of the doubt.

I'd count McCain among the clueless conservatives. The "conservative base" rejected Giuliani and Romney. Conservatives by definition make the Republican party the party of the past.


In retrospect, Fred! was as energetic as McCain. He just knew that he should quit. I would have voted for him or Duncan Hunter if they'd just kept in the race and not even campaigned.

980 jcm  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:50:36pm

re: #930 BlueCanuck

They are not saying it's a conspiracy by a governmental agency, just the conspiracy of one person. It's simple really, all numbers in nature aren't simple numbers. Knowing this you can scan a database of readings and find true randomness. If the readings are recorded correctly, in a scientific database they should be, this will show up in an analysis. If the numbers are too neat, that will show up as well. What the analysis is showing is that the numbers are too neat and tidy.

James Hansen the NASA Climate top dog has an agenda.

re: #972 Outrider

[Link: switch206-01.castup.net...]

How's the rooster?

981 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:50:37pm

re: #959 x-wing

Reine nailed it. I wasn't sure so I just put it up the best way I could.(the way it sounds) ;>}

OldLineTexan actually got the spelling right - I remembered it was an American Indian word. Took a committee to get it right.

982 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:50:44pm

re: #970 CyanSnowHawk

But that's the thing. CPS everywhere, no matter the name is walking a fine line between pulling apart families on suspicions and letting abuse go on too long. I have a friend in the area that worked for the local CPS and making the wrong choice was a constant fear. To take it to the extremes on the one side you have the potential for a huge lawsuit that will damage your ability to do your job and protect children from abuse and on the other you fail to protect children from abuse and potentially have dead children. You lose and kids are hurt either way if you make the wrong choice. On top of that, you are making these choices in the context of the conditions in your department, where you likely have much too big a caseload, possible political pressure from the latest screwup that made the news (even if it wasn't your department that did it), and the mix of employees in your department, which run the gamut from enlightened guardian angel to lazy slob collecting a paycheck who can't be fired due to union rules.

Frankly, I'm surprised we don't have more failures in this endeavor. (On second thought no I'm not, the vast majority of people in these CPS services do the right thing and we only hear about the screwups. Problem is, we keep hearing about them no matter how good the service is.)

true enough. I still think a judge (even secret) would fix a lot of the problems if someone had to explain something to justify a warrant.

Peoples lives are ruined if there is a mistake either way.

983 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:50:55pm

you need a phony potato these days

984 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:51:09pm

re: #968 buzzsawmonkey

No, I meant, "How can the parts not fit a potato--any potato?"

We had the second generation Potato Head and crew that had plastic veggies. The original points were pointy, and you know how dangerous we were with pointy things...

985 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:51:13pm
986 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:51:28pm

Big doin's at gazacam right now.

Where's the rooster, I wonder?

987 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:51:32pm

re: #966 lifeofthemind

Is there another Gazacam feed? I am seeing nothing interesting on [Link: switch434-01.castup.net...]

try the Nana TV one... here:
[Link: switch206-01.castup.net...]

988 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:51:39pm

Another WP air burst, much closer.

Achmed is praying.

WON'T
HELP,
R

989 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:51:45pm

Whoa...what was that? Yellow smoke?

990 jcm  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:51:55pm

re: #975 avanti

I can't even prove we didn't land on the moon to some skeptics because of conspiracy theories.....

We didn't huh?

Hoo-boy!

991 BBev  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:52:15pm

re: #960 Killgore Trout

Heads up. I just received an email from my vet.....


Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh,,,,, Heads up to eating anything from china!

992 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:52:32pm

re: #978 ploome hineni

I check my dooggies food.never give them anything from China

My dog eats Hills W/D Rx, stuff is $2.50 a can and $55.00 for a 20lb bag. The dry would be the same price shipped and they failed to get the supplies in for the cans.

993 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:52:50pm

re: #971 Render

Saw one inbound rocket.

Another WP airburst.

Lots of AK rattle.

This is all much closer to Achmeds position then anything yet. Hard to tell for sure but it looks like no more then 20 or 30 city blocks away.

HANG
ON,
R

I thought it was closer. It seems the camera shakes every now and then and I haven't seen that happen before.

994 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:52:52pm

re: #975 avanti

I can't even prove we didn't land on the moon to some skeptics because of conspiracy theories.

So you're saying we did, or we didn't?

/

995 Areozol  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:52:53pm

NEWS: Muslims in Europe boycott Coca-cola, Lidl and other corporations, after SMS action urging them to do that, because "These companies have announced on television that during the conflict in Gaza they will provide a portion of their income to Israel". Total bullcrap!

Really. Muslims seems more paranoic than everyone's else.

Translated article: [Link: translate.google.com...]

996 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:52:55pm

re: #961 Outrider

that can be changed to make this entire family services more accountable than it is presently.

It should not be changed, there is no reason for a juvvie judge to need the power to issue warrants. If social services and the police suspect illegal activity, they can go to a district judge like everyone else. Trouble with that is they must show PROBABLE CAUSE, or they will not get it. That is why they try to do the end run with bringing a police officer. It is for intimidation. Most people think if an officer demands entrance, they must open the door. Nothing could be further from the truth.

997 spidly  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:53:00pm

re: #968 buzzsawmonkey

No, I meant, "How can the parts not fit a potato--any potato?"

New Mr. Potato head parts will work on the standard but just look funny. Trying to get standard Mr. Potato head parts on a new potato though....

998 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:53:14pm
999 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:53:19pm

re: #979 jwb7605

In retrospect, Fred! was as energetic as McCain. He just knew that he should quit. I would have voted for him or Duncan Hunter if they'd just kept in the race and not even campaigned.

I would have, too. McCain was my LAST choice.

1000 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:53:22pm
1001 kcladderman  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:53:31pm

re: #885 Alouette

My grandson has the same name as a notorious serial killer, but it also happens to be a family name (we are not related to the serial killer with the same name). The difference is that my grandson was NOT named after the serial killer, but this couple did knowingly name their innocent child after a mass murderer because they admire his genocidal acts.

So? Thats makes it ok to take away their rights. No one is in here saying these are Ward and June type parents but if the reason they took that kid out of the house was just because of his name, thats a very very slippery slope.

1002 Attaboid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:53:46pm

Lots of action on Gazacam!

1003 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:54:01pm

re: #983 albusteve

you need a phony potato these days

It does suck when your toys rot.

Or Mom bakes them and feeds them to Dad.

1004 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:55:06pm

Woohoo! Get in on, IDF!, Get it on!

"How do you feel, Yitzak?"

"Like a mean motherf***er, Sir!"

- Channeling Apocalypse Now.

1005 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:55:30pm

re: #1003 OldLineTexan

It does suck when your toys rot.

Or Mom bakes them and feeds them to Dad.

rofl!

1006 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:55:53pm

re: #1003 OldLineTexan

It does suck when your toys rot.

Or Mom bakes them and feeds them to Dad.

Ha!...drink!

1007 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:56:00pm

re: #1003 OldLineTexan

It does suck when your toys rot.

Or Mom bakes them and feeds them to Dad.

My daughter found out that putting Mr. Potato head glasses on a real potato and then putting that into the "easy-bake oven" with the light bulb will result in a potato that wears contact lenses.

1008 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:56:08pm

re: #1005 reine.de.tout

rofl!

Hey, I bet it wouldn't be so danged funny if it was YOUR Erector set!

/

1009 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:56:09pm
1010 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:56:45pm

re: #1007 jwb7605

My daughter found out that putting Mr. Potato head glasses on a real potato and then putting that into the "easy-bake oven" with the light bulb will result in a potato that wears contact lenses.

L-rd Bless her! That's the kind of little kid engineering this country needs more of!

1011 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:56:55pm

I wonder if the gazacam guys realize their mic is on and we can hear them - I'm guessing they're making plans to get the hell outta Dodge.

1012 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:57:00pm

re: #979 jwb7605

In retrospect, Fred! was as energetic as McCain. He just knew that he should quit. I would have voted for him or Duncan Hunter if they'd just kept in the race and not even campaigned.

Fred was eloquent and can't be blamed for sizing up the media and knowing it wasn't going to work. That clear headedness is one reason he would have been good for the job. Never got to know much about Hunter.

1013 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:57:00pm

re: #1007 jwb7605

My daughter found out that putting Mr. Potato head glasses on a real potato and then putting that into the "easy-bake oven" with the light bulb will result in a potato that wears contact lenses.

This is why I have faith in this country; kids like yours.

1014 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:57:47pm

re: #1011 reine.de.tout

I wonder if the gazacam guys realize their mic is on and we can hear them - I'm guessing they're making plans to get the hell outta Dodge.

And the roosters are awake.

1015 avanti  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:57:54pm

re: #917 Peter Verkooijen

Again, just to be clear, that was not a post about Obama from a left wing site, but a loony comment on a right wing maxedoutmama.blogspot.com...]>site/a>

1016 Soona'  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:58:13pm

re: #989 x-wing

Whoa...what was that? Yellow smoke?

Just started listening to roostercam again. The war sounds like it's a lot closer tonight.

1017 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:58:13pm

About 5 hr 40 minutes till sun up in Israel. Be interesting to see what damage has been done.

1018 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:58:14pm

re: #1002 Attaboid

Lots of action on Gazacam!

I'm hearing what sounds like a man and a woman and lotsa' explosions. The only video I've seen had thick smoke.

1019 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:58:18pm

Cranked the volume up really high, and I think I hear the Rooster. It's unconfirmed at this point, but I think I heard the Rooster.

1020 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:59:11pm
1021 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:59:15pm

re: #1009 buzzsawmonkey

Does Mrs. Potato give Mr. Potato head?

Oh, you naughty, naughty man.

1022 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:59:17pm

re: #1019 Guanxi88

Cranked the volume up really high, and I think I hear the Rooster. It's unconfirmed at this point, but I think I heard the Rooster.

I agree - it sounds like him.

1023 broomer  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:59:28pm

I'm deaf so of course I'm not hearing anything on the Gazacam but are you SERIOUS about hearing the Rooster?

1024 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:59:34pm

That target must be something important. What is that now 3 or 4 times it's been hit?

1025 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:59:42pm

re: #957 CapeCoddah

That is what the tape recorder is for. When the cop and the worker knock, you answer the door, make sure they see you turn it on, and ask for the warrant. Any cop with a single working brain cell will understand and go away, taking the worker with them.

Here is a great case in point: Calebretta V. Floyd.
The cop and social worker lost everything, immunity, jobs, homes...
[Link: www.bountylicenserecovery.com...]
It is an easy, and very enlightening read. Keep in mind, also, this is the nutso San Francisco third circuit decision. Even those moonbats could not have ruled any other way.

1026 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:59:54pm

re: #972 Outrider

[Link: switch206-01.castup.net...]

Thank you that shows action

1027 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:00:14pm

re: #1023 broomer

I'm deaf so of course I'm not hearing anything on the Gazacam but are you SERIOUS about hearing the Rooster?

Yes, the Rooster is alive. Unless, like OBL, it's just all spliced together from older stuff.

1028 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:00:45pm

re: #1016 Soona'

Just started listening to roostercam again. The war sounds like it's a lot closer tonight.

Hey one rooster's alive. There's hope for ours yet.

1029 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:01:04pm
1030 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:01:05pm

Heap-big explosion in the middle.

1031 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:01:20pm

re: #996 CapeCoddah

It should not be changed, there is no reason for a juvvie judge to need the power to issue warrants. If social services and the police suspect illegal activity, they can go to a district judge like everyone else. Trouble with that is they must show PROBABLE CAUSE, or they will not get it. That is why they try to do the end run with bringing a police officer. It is for intimidation. Most people think if an officer demands entrance, they must open the door. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I have not noticed any need to go before a judge before taking action down here. I could be wrong.

I'm just questioning the timing of this particular kid "confiscation" and believe it will end in a court fight.

1032 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:01:44pm

Charles - Can we get a fresh open post pls?

===

This started with a bunch of RPG and AK fire from left to right. And then the Merkava responded with about a dozen rounds and what looked like a LAHAT missile, followed by every ammo can they had.

After that the WP rounds started coming in (looks like mortars).

I'm wondering who is firing the red flares.

THREAD
JAM,
R

1033 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:02:13pm

re: #1020 ploome hineni

mine eat HIlls w/d cans only....(mine were a little chubby)

:D..I don;t lik the dry

I pay less than 2$ for the can from my vets office

you may find it cheaper elsewhere

And I need to add the cost of renting a car to get the stuff every couple of months if the mail order doesn't provide.

1034 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:02:44pm

These two links have the same picture:

[Link: switch206-01.castup.net...]

[Link: switch434-01.castup.net...]

1035 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:03:10pm

re: #995 Areozol

NEWS: Muslims in Europe boycott Coca-cola, Lidl and other corporations, after SMS action urging them to do that, because "These companies have announced on television that during the conflict in Gaza they will provide a portion of their income to Israel". Total bullcrap!

Really. Muslims seems more paranoic than everyone's else.

Translated article: [Link: translate.google.com...]

Lidl is a supermarket.

here's hoping the IslamoNazis boycott all supermarkets...

/they'll get hungry and starve and blame the jooooss...

1036 Soona'  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:03:22pm

re: #1019 Guanxi88

Cranked the volume up really high, and I think I hear the Rooster. It's unconfirmed at this point, but I think I heard the Rooster.

The roosters are still telling the palis: "Run, you fuckers. Run!"

1037 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:03:23pm

is the Gazatron down?

1038 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:04:06pm

Gone black. Dammit the show was getting good...

Ah well.

FEED
THE
DOGS,
R

1039 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:04:08pm

re: #881 Soona'

My drill sergeant changed my name to Shithead. Does that count?

Pronounce Shi theed?

1040 Archimedes  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:04:10pm

re: #38 Walter L. Newton

You have all the good luck. Such great pictures and such great nuts. Here in Golden, even when we have something as big a Al-Jazeera come to town, all we get is a 100 or so for's and against's and we still all meet for BBQ afterwards.

Damn the luck!

1041 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:04:14pm

re: #1037 albusteve

is the Gazatron down?

This one still has video

1042 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:04:58pm

The Israelis should blow mouse holes in every wall and go through every "mosque" and "school" and "hospital" basement until they get their missing soldier back.

1043 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:05:02pm

re: #1038 Render

Gone black. Dammit the show was getting good...

Ah well.

FEED
THE
DOGS,
R

This one still has video

1044 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:05:10pm

I'm falling way behind here lizards, slow down! Or do y'all ignore work more than I do?

1045 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:05:12pm

re: #1032 Render

Charles - Can we get a fresh open post pls?

===

This started with a bunch of RPG and AK fire from left to right. And then the Merkava responded with about a dozen rounds and what looked like a LAHAT missile, followed by every ammo can they had.

After that the WP rounds started coming in (looks like mortars).

I'm wondering who is firing the red flares.

THREAD
JAM,
R

thanks for the analysis. non-military here, so i wouldnt a have a clue about what an AK47 sounds like.

1046 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:05:38pm

re: #1041 reine.de.tout

This one still has video

it does...thanks

1047 caliredst8r  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:05:39pm

The radio station they are listening to is in English, sounds British.

1048 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:05:40pm

English, I hear somebody lying in English under the bombs and such

1049 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:05:42pm

The rooster is alive, but I bet the hens aren't laying eggs.

I had trouble with Gaza cam with Firefox. Firefox add-ons were limiting my streaming to about a minute. I switched to Cameo and all is fine.

I hear at least three or four roosters now.

1050 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:05:43pm

re: #1037 albusteve

is the Gazatron down?

Yep, black screen, I mean, screens dark, oops. It died.

1051 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:05:47pm
1052 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:05:48pm

As my son said as a tiny tike, Wooster...Wooster!

1053 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:06:06pm

re: #1045 buzzdroid

thanks for the analysis. non-military here, so i wouldnt a have a clue about what an AK47 sounds like.

you need to watch more TV

1054 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:06:22pm

re: #1044 CyanSnowHawk

I'm falling way behind here lizards, slow down! Or do y'all ignore work more than I do?

uk here, so its just after 11pm.

1055 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:06:41pm

re: #1050 x-wing

Yep, black screen, I mean, screens dark, oops. It died.

There are two links.

this one is still working

1056 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:06:41pm

re: #1031 Outrider

I have not noticed any need to go before a judge before taking action down here. I could be wrong.

I'm just questioning the timing of this particular kid "confiscation" and believe it will end in a court fight.

Are you a police officer?

1057 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:06:42pm

How old does a hen have to be before the Imams say you can have sex with it?

1058 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:06:44pm

re: #1046 albusteve

it does...thanks

thanks. it does.

1059 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:06:49pm

re: #1052 jorline

As my son said as a tiny tike, Wooster...Wooster!

And so, we come back to Wodehouse.

1060 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:07:03pm
1061 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:07:34pm

re: #1056 CapeCoddah

Are you a police officer?

no. why?

1062 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:07:39pm

re: #885 Alouette

My grandson has the same name as a notorious serial killer, but it also happens to be a family name (we are not related to the serial killer with the same name). The difference is that my grandson was NOT named after the serial killer, but this couple did knowingly name their innocent child after a mass murderer because they admire his genocidal acts.

And to think Charisma Carpenter doesn't like that her Mom named her after a perfume.

1063 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:08:14pm

re: #1057 lifeofthemind

How old does a hen have to be before the Imams say you can have sex with it?

9 months. but you can't eat it afterwards or sell it to your neighbors for food. ;-)>

1064 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:08:17pm

re: #1041 reine.de.tout

This one still has video


Thanks reine.

1065 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:08:30pm

re: #1052 jorline

As my son said as a tiny tike, Wooster...Wooster!

Jorline!
How ya doin'?

Check your e-mail.

1066 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:08:35pm
1067 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:08:43pm

re: #1059 Guanxi88

And so, we come back to Wodehouse.

You have something against brick houses?

1068 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:08:50pm

re: #1053 albusteve

you need to watch more TV

well thats kind of close up (hamas crazy firing into the air...)

hard to judge when the gunshots are echoing in the distance , like on gazacam.

liked that analysis above - if anyone military would like to chip in , please do so...

oooh - big blast just happened.. cam is zooming in. near the yellow smoke.

1069 avanti  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:09:12pm

re: #1015 avanti

OK,in fairness, I screwed up. The quote was posted on a right wing site that was pulled from a troll comment in a 100 plus long thread about Obama's. Tax plan on a leftie site. No different the if daily Kos cherry picked a loon quote on here and reposted it.

1070 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:09:17pm

re: #1067 David IV of Georgia

You have something against brick houses?

Depends. How old is she?

1071 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:09:29pm

re: #1065 reine.de.tout

Jorline!
How ya doin'?

Check your e-mail.

Hi, reine.

Checking email.

1072 Age Of Freedom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:09:31pm

IDF's latest video:

IDF pwnage at night -

1073 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:09:40pm

Woo-hoo!

There was a good blast on the gaza-cam!

1074 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:09:42pm

re: #1068 buzzdroid

well thats kind of close up (hamas crazy firing into the air...)

hard to judge when the gunshots are echoing in the distance , like on gazacam.

liked that analysis above - if anyone military would like to chip in , please do so...

oooh - big blast just happened.. cam is zooming in. near the yellow smoke.

flash to bang is remarkably short

1075 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:09:43pm

re: #1057 lifeofthemind

How old does a hen have to be before the Imams say you can have sex with it?

I don't think hens are allowed. Now goats and camels....

1076 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:09:50pm

WOOAH - thats a new type of flare.. not seen that before!

like the phosphorous ones , but goes UPWARDS from the ground.

anyone got a clue what that is?

1077 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:10:00pm
1078 Archimedes  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:10:02pm

It's so damned ironic how these protesters equate Israel with the Nazis (lunacy cubed), and yet they are the ones who I've heard lavish praise on the Nazis. We all know Mein Kampf sells well among Palestinians (anybody have that old link?). Leftists=collectivists=Nazis. Never be fooled into the notion that the Nazis were "right wing". They were as left as left can be.

1079 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:10:13pm

Finally caught the camera while some action is happening.

1080 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:10:17pm

re: #1061 Outrider

no. why?

The taking action comment. I am only talking about police and social workers trying to get into private homes without a warrant. It opens up a world of hurt for both if they try to do it by intimidation, without permission of the parents/ homeowners.

1081 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:10:52pm

Israel is really pouring it on tonight.

/settling in, got my beer.

1082 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:10:58pm

I hear a douchbag whining in English now.

boothefuckhoo.

SUFFER,
R

1083 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:11:27pm

re: #1060 ploome hineni

here

[Link: www.rxpetfood.com...]

Thank you

1084 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:11:37pm

another "flare" just went off... big chunks of it arcing from the ground towards surrounding buildings...

what is that? rockets blowing up?

1085 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:11:38pm

Does anyone here know why this fighting seems to take place at night instead of during the day?

Or am I just missing the daytime stuff?

1086 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:11:46pm
1087 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:12:00pm

re: #1055 reine.de.tout

You're da' bomb.

1088 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:12:26pm

re: #1 godfrey

Song of the Day: Big Rock Candy Mountain

Coming to you courtesy the Obama Administration.

Mongo like candy...:)

1089 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:12:33pm

re: #1085 reine.de.tout

Does anyone here know why this fighting seems to take place at night instead of during the day?

Or am I just missing the daytime stuff?

night-vision goggles.

the IDF rule the night.

/best guess...

1090 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:12:43pm

re: #1080 CapeCoddah

The taking action comment. I am only talking about police and social workers trying to get into private homes without a warrant. It opens up a world of hurt for both if they try to do it by intimidation, without permission of the parents/ homeowners.

i understand

1091 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:12:44pm

Gazacam is happen'.

1092 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:12:52pm

re: #1085 reine.de.tout

Does anyone here know why this fighting seems to take place at night instead of during the day?

Or am I just missing the daytime stuff?

My guess? IDF own the night, civvies stay inside, aren't out and about. Makes working a lot easier for the good guys, and keeps the bad guys at a decided disadvantage.

Nothing says "Die," quite like tank fire at 3 in the a.m.

1093 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:12:54pm

re: #1085 reine.de.tout

Does anyone here know why this fighting seems to take place at night instead of during the day?

Or am I just missing the daytime stuff?

Until tonight, I thought that most of the action took place during the day.

What do I know?!

1094 lobo91  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:13:34pm

re: #1085 reine.de.tout

Does anyone here know why this fighting seems to take place at night instead of during the day?

Or am I just missing the daytime stuff?

SOP for any modern force when fighting third world scumbags.

We have state-of-the-art night vision gear, and they don't.

1095 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:13:44pm

re: #968 buzzsawmonkey

No, I meant, "How can the parts not fit a potato--any potato?"

You really are old buzz. Mr. Potatoheads have been made of plastic from a long time now.
/

1096 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:14:02pm

re: #1091 Silhouette

Gazacam is happen'.

I am just awe-struck that we can watch and listen to this as it happens.

1097 avanti  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:14:10pm

re: #994 OldLineTexan

So you're saying we did, or we didn't?

/

I didn't, but we did. :)

1098 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:14:35pm

re: #1063 Outrider

9 months. but you can't eat it afterwards or sell it to your neighbors for food. ;-)>

There was a guy fired from a turkey processing plant because he decided to stuff a few of them personally.

/had Ham for thanksgiving that year.

1099 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:14:36pm

re: #1092 Guanxi88

My guess? IDF own the night, civvies stay inside, aren't out and about. Makes working a lot easier for the good guys, and keeps the bad guys at a decided disadvantage.

Nothing says "Die," quite like tank fire at 3 in the a.m.

yeah that too.. avoids unnecessary civilian casualties.
hamas would only hide behind stone throwing children during the daytime..


that doesnt happen at night.

1100 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:14:48pm
1101 lobo91  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:14:48pm

re: #1096 reine.de.tout

I am just awe-struck that we can watch and listen to this as it happens.

I'm jealous. No streaming video or audio here at work.

1102 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:14:52pm

re: #1092 Guanxi88

My guess? IDF own the night, civvies stay inside, aren't out and about. Makes working a lot easier for the good guys, and keeps the bad guys at a decided disadvantage.

Nothing says "Die," quite like tank fire at 3 in the a.m.

Dedicated to the IDF.

1103 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:14:53pm

re: #1085 reine.de.tout

Does anyone here know why this fighting seems to take place at night instead of during the day?

Or am I just missing the daytime stuff?

I believe it is as simple as the fact that the terrorists cannot see at night, while it is no problem for the Israelis, or significantly less problem with their technology.

Night is 'cover'.

1104 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:15:35pm
1105 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:15:45pm

Yes, of course. Anyone out at the hour isn't likely to be going to a wedding or school.

1106 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:15:48pm

50cal firing.

The whiner shut up. I don't he realizes that we can see what he's lying about in real time.

KEEP
FIRING,
R

1107 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:16:07pm

Any rooster sightings?

1108 jcm  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:16:10pm

re: #1085 reine.de.tout

Does anyone here know why this fighting seems to take place at night instead of during the day?

Or am I just missing the daytime stuff?

IDF like our military own the night. Night vision, etc... something Hamas does not have a lot of. IDF can see at night, Hamas can't hide in the dark, Hamas cannot see the IDF so can't fight back effectively.

Big, big force multiplier for the IDF.

1109 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:16:12pm

re: #1094 lobo91

SOP for any modern force when fighting third world scumbags.

We have state-of-the-art night vision gear, and they don't.

we used to train to conduct almost all of our operations and virtually all of our movement at night. I'm sure that is even more so now that all soldiers have NVG, instead of one Starlight per platoon.

1110 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:16:51pm

re: #1098 x-wing

There was a guy fired from a turkey processing plant because he decided to stuff a few of them personally.

"Cavity of depravity," to quote Imus.

1111 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:16:53pm

re: #1107 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Any rooster sightings?

no full auto Rooster yet....waiting

1112 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:17:04pm

That and the fact that everyone knows that all members of the IDF are indeed vampires.

1113 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:17:19pm

re: #1085 reine.de.tout

Does anyone here know why this fighting seems to take place at night instead of during the day?

Or am I just missing the daytime stuff?


Israre has night vision. Hamas...probably not.

/tactical advantage

1114 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:17:24pm

re: #1098 x-wing

There was a guy fired from a turkey processing plant because he decided to stuff a few of them personally.

/had Ham for thanksgiving that year.

adds a whole new dimension to stuffing the bird with sausage stuffing. ;-)>

1115 jcm  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:17:57pm

re: #1097 avanti

I didn't, but we did. :)

Whew, that's good to hear, you had me worried.

1116 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:18:23pm

i notice that the fighting seems to kick off at roughly the same time each evening...

WOOOAH -- just saw a Hamas missile being launched! white streak went upwards ...

1117 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:18:41pm

re: #982 Outrider

true enough. I still think a judge (even secret) would fix a lot of the problems if someone had to explain something to justify a warrant.

Peoples lives are ruined if there is a mistake either way.

The oversight that I hope for. It's an ugly problem, isn't it?

1118 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:18:46pm

That sure looked like a Hamas rocket firing from the base of Achmed's Chicke Coop tower...

/clue the IDF to take out the area.

1119 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:18:48pm

re: #1112 Silhouette

That and the fact that everyone knows that all members of the IDF are indeed vampires.

Yes, now this is the first explanation I can believe.
/

So, the war comes down to about one one-hour or so battle each night?

1120 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:19:11pm

re: #1114 Outrider

adds a whole new dimension to stuffing the bird with sausage stuffing. ;-)>

I'm sure all the poultry plant workers are natures noblemen.

Never worked in food service, like to eat and like not knowing, thank you very much.

1121 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:19:43pm

re: #1117 CyanSnowHawk

The oversight that I hope for. It's an ugly problem, isn't it?

one that I just don't have any answers for. ;-(>

1122 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:19:51pm

re: #1112 Silhouette

That and the fact that everyone knows that all members of the IDF are indeed vampires.

why of course they are. Joooos drink the blood of your children dont they?

1123 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:19:59pm

re: #1107 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Any rooster sightings?


One so far, but it aint ours. If you listen close you can hear him over the other noise.

1124 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:20:11pm

re: #1085 reine.de.tout

Does anyone here know why this fighting seems to take place at night instead of during the day?

Or am I just missing the daytime stuff?

If it was broad daylight the media would still keep everybody in the dark.

1125 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:20:11pm

That seemed to be on a loop for a second.

Who runs this cam? If it is Hamas, I expect they'll find out the world is watching, and "augment" some segments.

1126 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:20:22pm

re: #1107 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Any rooster sightings?

Achmed's still trying to get an egg...:)

1127 Bobblehead  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:20:30pm

Anything interesting on the Gazacam tonight? How's our rooster?

1128 bloodnok  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:20:42pm

We got live pissing and moaning on the Gazacam.

(He's probably on live with CNN...)

1129 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:20:47pm
1130 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:20:57pm

Another HAMAS rocket went up from the base of the smoke cloud.

The whiner is back. "The children..." "Appeal to the Egyptian authorities..."

It's rocket science you asshole, stop trying to kill Jews, you won't get blasted.

THEN
DIRT,
R

1131 engineboss  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:21:06pm

I heard about a hospital that named a wing after Picabo Street.......Picabo ICU

1132 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:21:07pm

just for Hamas...yeppers

1133 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:21:12pm

ambulance sounds now..

/sure sign that the IDF has whacked some bad guys...

1134 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:21:15pm

IDF must be finished Achmed got the ambulance out.

1135 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:21:17pm

Saw a nice close-up on a logistics vehicle/troop transport; darned thing looked like an ambulance.

1136 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:21:34pm

re: #1126 Dustyvet

Achmed's still trying to get an egg...:)

He has to choke the chicken harder.

/Ambulance coming to get Achmed...

1137 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:21:35pm

re: #1128 bloodnok

We got live pissing and moaning on the Gazacam.

(He's probably on live with CNN...)

yeah - sounds like a background TV ...

1138 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:22:13pm

Hamas must be running low on ammo. An ambulance just went by, siren blaring.

1139 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:22:28pm

Hear a phone off the hook in the background.

1140 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:22:32pm
1141 bloodnok  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:22:33pm

re: #1137 buzzdroid

yeah - sounds like a background TV ...

Hang up that phone Achmed.

(Sounds great with headphones. Stereo is back)

1142 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:22:52pm

Pardon me, but I am having one of those barf moments. The WSJ has some video up about the Israeli action in Rafa with the following caption: " Town of Rafa in Gaza Now Under Attack Israeli warplanes continue to pound Rafa, the southern town of Gaza with bunker-busting bombs. Pleas for a ceasefire continue to be ignored by Israelis. Courtesy Reuters. Town of Rafa in Gaza Now Under Attack Israeli warplanes continue to pound Rafa, the southern town of Gaza with bunker-busting bombs. Pleas for a ceasefire continue to be ignored by Israelis. Courtesy Reuters. israeli soldiers execution of israeli soldiers warplanes bunker-busting bombs southern town of gazaz rafa pleas for ceasefire "

Straight from al-Reuters and obviously not proof read. My opinion of the WSJ just went down 10 notches.

1143 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:22:58pm

some seriously BIG bangs going on in the background... airstrikes probably..

1144 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:23:13pm

...Children have trouble breathing phosphorous smoke...

An easy solution is to quit firing rockets.

1145 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:23:15pm

These transmissions are routed through Israeli servers in Tel Aviv, if the IDF wanted to pull the plug, they will.

BY
YOUR
COMMAND,
R

1146 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:23:52pm

Notice that the Hamas side doesn't seem to have a problem with press egoists sketching out their positions on camera to violate OPSEC?

1147 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:24:02pm

Looks like the IDF has a lot of interest in that zone Achmed is spending all his time on, with the mortar blasts.

/warms the heart to see a good FFE coming in. ;-)

1148 Archimedes  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:24:30pm

re: #1086 buzzsawmonkey

Moebius logic, as I observed last night.

Twilight Zone stuff.

But, really, these protesters and other appeasers of Hamas and Islamic thugs are really to blame for the deaths here, and I mean on both sides: Israeli and Palestinian. So, they can spare me their crocodile tears and empty rhetoric.

Hamas guns down Palestinians who sing at weddings, without warning! This is who these people support. With friends like that!

1149 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:25:30pm

rooster has kicked off.. in the background.. faintly..

1150 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:25:37pm

re: #1142 Shr_Nfr

Pardon me, but I am having one of those barf moments. The WSJ has some video up about the Israeli action in Rafa with the following caption: " Town of Rafa in Gaza Now Under Attack Israeli warplanes continue to pound Rafa, the southern town of Gaza with bunker-busting bombs. Pleas for a ceasefire continue to be ignored by Israelis. Courtesy Reuters. Town of Rafa in Gaza Now Under Attack Israeli warplanes continue to pound Rafa, the southern town of Gaza with bunker-busting bombs. Pleas for a ceasefire continue to be ignored by Israelis. Courtesy Reuters. israeli soldiers execution of israeli soldiers warplanes bunker-busting bombs southern town of gazaz rafa pleas for ceasefire "

Straight from al-Reuters and obviously not proof read. My opinion of the WSJ just went down 10 notches.

Night watch did that, is there a 24 hour phone contact to get an editor?

1151 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:27:07pm

Rooster again.

Israel may be using this footage for reconnaissance value.

1152 callahan23  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:27:19pm

There I heard the rooster again!
...in between the blasts... definitely our good ol' trusted rooster.

Yep it's him!

1153 Jr ewing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:27:48pm

Must see music vid!

Terrorism against freedom

1154 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:28:11pm

All right, a technical question:

If I was wanting to record this Rooster-cam stuff later (you know, when what we see looks like a cross between the Beijing Olympics opening ceremony, the napalm in the morning scene in Apocalypse now, and a close-up of a solar flare) how would I go about doing it?

1155 MJ  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:28:29pm

Sound just went off?

1156 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:28:44pm

re: #1148 Archimedes

Twilight Zone stuff.

But, really, these protesters and other appeasers of Hamas and Islamic thugs are really to blame for the deaths here, and I mean on both sides: Israeli and Palestinian. So, they can spare me their crocodile tears and empty rhetoric.

Hamas guns down Palestinians who sing at weddings, without warning! This is who these people support. With friends like that!

that vid is simply one the most shocking examples of the horror these animals are capable of...right up there with the highrise pitch vids

1157 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:28:52pm

That was the same damn ambulance!

1158 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:29:21pm

re: #1128 bloodnok

We got live pissing and moaning on the Gazacam.

(He's probably on live with CNN...)

Bloodnok, and any other New England lizard, well, all lizards, Loppyd, Jetpilot and I are setting up a lizard meet. No time/ date or location set yet. (probably in Boston) Anyone interested, please e-mail me, my nic is blue.

1159 jcm  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:29:47pm

re: #1157 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

That was the same damn ambulance!

That was the same damn ambulance troop carrier or ammo run!

FIFY!

1160 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:29:52pm

You know, watching the gaza-cam, what's really remarkable is just how normal most of the place is. It scans around, and 95% of what you see is just city lights twinkling, just like they would in your town.

The explosions and firing appear to very restricted in scope. Really gives the lie to hamas' claims of "devastation."

1161 debutaunt  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:30:16pm

re: #742 jwb7605

The other night one of our cats was on my lap, and the other cat was on my wife's lap.

In about ten minutes, the two traded positions.

I said to my wife "You know they're setting us up for something, don't you?"

hahahahhahahahahahaaaaa

1162 callahan23  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:30:42pm

re: #1155 MJ

Yes, indeed sound went off.

1163 jcm  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:30:48pm

re: #1160 Alberta Oil Peon

You know, watching the gaza-cam, what's really remarkable is just how normal most of the place is. It scans around, and 95% of what you see is just city lights twinkling, just like they would in your town.

The explosions and firing appear to very restricted in scope. Really gives the lie to hamas' claims of "devastation."

Don't believe your lying eyes, it's a blitzkrieg on a concentration camp!
/troof

1164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:30:52pm

What's up, yo?

1165 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:31:12pm

re: #1159 jcm

That was the same damn ambulance troop carrier or ammo run!

FIFY!

No argument here... my point was it was the same footage...

uh-oh... screen went blank...

1166 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:31:27pm

re: #1155 MJ

Sound just went off?

Mine just went out

1167 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:31:43pm

Back on... no sound.

1168 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:31:44pm

re: #1153 Jr ewing

Must see music vid!

Terrorism against freedom

Quite a contrast with the way things are here in the U.S.A.
Kids are expelled from school for just drawing a stick figure with a gun.

Moonbats are still apparently encouraged to bring kids to protests, though.

1169 nyc redneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:32:10pm

i really like and admire israeli people.

1170 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:32:37pm

re: #1169 nyc redneck

i really like and admire israeli people.

... and the women are quite hot, too. ;-)

1171 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:32:58pm

re: #1157 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

That was the same damn ambulance!

Routine Hamas Troop movement LT, if it was an UN ambulance it's sure not being used to transport the sick and injured. Oh and speaking of the UN:

NY Daily News: United Nations tries to outlaw criticism of Islam!

1172 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:32:58pm

re: #1160 Alberta Oil Peon

You know, watching the gaza-cam, what's really remarkable is just how normal most of the place is. It scans around, and 95% of what you see is just city lights twinkling, just like they would in your town.

The explosions and firing appear to very restricted in scope. Really gives the lie to hamas' claims of "devastation."

Yes, I noticed that too.
Seems like life is fairly normal in most of the place. The people there certainly don't seem to be in any fear for their lives - when the mic was on earlier, it sounded like the camera-guy had a lot of company in that room with him.

1173 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:33:15pm

re: #1145 Render

These transmissions are routed through Israeli servers in Tel Aviv, if the IDF wanted to pull the plug, they will.

BY
YOUR
COMMAND,
R

it would seem to work in their favor at the moment.

1174 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:33:28pm

re: #1166 reine.de.tout

Mine just went out

It just came back for me. Maybe too many watchers, and the server's hamsters are struggling?

1175 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:33:40pm

re: #1170 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

... and the women are quite hot, too. ;-)

Is that woman on NCIS Israeli in real life?
If not, she acts well.
She is hot, too.

1176 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:34:11pm

re: #1160 Alberta Oil Peon

You know, watching the gaza-cam, what's really remarkable is just how normal most of the place is. It scans around, and 95% of what you see is just city lights twinkling, just like they would in your town.

The explosions and firing appear to very restricted in scope. Really gives the lie to hamas' claims of "devastation."

I think some of it has to do with the fact that Hamas comes out to defend a high value target... spends themselves quickly and scoots...they just cant put up a sustained resistance for very long...thus damage is limited to a smaller area...I could be wrong tho

1177 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:34:26pm

re: #1174 Alberta Oil Peon

It just came back for me. Maybe too many watchers, and the server's hamsters are struggling?

I still have no sound. Just a picture.

1178 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:34:34pm

re: #1163 jcm

Don't believe your lying eyes, it's a blitzkrieg on a concentration camp!
/troof

Yes, it looks identical to Dresden ;>}

///why is it some people can't see that?///////////////heavy, heavy sarc

1179 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:35:29pm

re: #1158 CapeCoddah

Bloodnok, and any other New England lizard, well, all lizards, Loppyd, Jetpilot and I are setting up a lizard meet. No time/ date or location set yet. (probably in Boston) Anyone interested, please e-mail me, my nic is blue.

heh. I won't be up in the South Shore area until October. Sorry. ;-)>

1180 little blessing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:35:56pm

re: #1171 Dustyvet

Now I'm really convinced that the UN building is taking up space. What a worthless organisation.

1181 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:36:02pm

Israel should refuse to make access to Israeli territory a part of any cease fire. Gaza has a border with Egypt and Gaza has a seaport. Israel can insist on inspecting to keep weapons out but when not imposing a blockade during combat does not need to prevent Gazans from trading without going through Israel. If they can not make it a success like Hong Kong, Singapore or Gibraltar were when cut off from their hinterlands then that is their problem.

1182 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:36:28pm

I would note that this Open Thread has gotten off topic.
/

1183 Age Of Freedom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:36:38pm

re: #1079 BlueCanuck

Finally caught the camera while some action is happening.

You should check out the latest video from IDF at post (1072)

1184 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:36:41pm

Ambulance musta run over the microphone.

1185 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:37:19pm

re: #1170 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

... and the women are quite hot, too. ;-)

my dad thought the Israeli women where the most beautiful he'd seen anywhere in the world....he really liked pretty girls as a rule...Charlie knew his girls

1186 Pickle  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:37:32pm

Has anyone noticed the latest, and most disgusting, blood libel the BBC has published? They're now accusing the IDF of shooting at fleeing civilians waving white flags.

No independent verification, no real facts other than the usual Pallywood storytelling, and look, at the bottom, at who reported it:

Research and reporting by Hamada Abu Qammar in Gaza and Heather Sharp, Fouad Abu Ghosh and Raya el-Din in Jerusalem

Gee, I wonder who was responsible for the bulk of that tripe.

Something seriously, seriously needs to be done about Jeremy "Lord Haw-Haw" Bowen, the BBC's middle east editor and raving Israel-hater. He's nothing more than the English Propaganda Liason of Hamas.

1187 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:37:32pm

re: #1181 lifeofthemind

Israel should refuse to make access to Israeli territory a part of any cease fire. Gaza has a border with Egypt and Gaza has a seaport. Israel can insist on inspecting to keep weapons out but when not imposing a blockade during combat does not need to prevent Gazans from trading without going through Israel. If they can not make it a success like Hong Kong, Singapore or Gibraltar were when cut off from their hinterlands then that is their problem.

and if the Arabs really sympathized with them, they could open the Egyptian border instead of shooting the Gazans.

1188 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:37:33pm

Is that a hint of dawn or just fire?

1189 Bobblehead  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:38:26pm

re: #1177 reine.de.tout

I still have no sound. Just a picture.

I have neither.

1190 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:38:44pm

re: #1178 x-wing

Yes, it looks identical to Dresden ;>}

///why is it some people can't see that?///////////////heavy, heavy sarc

Remember that time are Dachau when the prisoners held the guards at bay with mortar, rocket and RPG fire? And then the guards attacked with tanks and airstrikes? The prisoners shopping at the open air market found it very distracting.

1191 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:39:11pm

re: #1189 Bobblehead

I have neither.

No sound, no picture, no bowl of rice...:)

1192 jcm  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:39:31pm

re: #1175 jwb7605

Is that woman on NCIS Israeli in real life?
If not, she acts well.
She is hot, too.

Cota de Pablo,

Cote de Pablo was born in Santiago, Chile, but was raised in Miami
1193 Perplexed  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:39:34pm

Ah, Obambi administration? Mark my words that his administration will be the most corrupt since Grant's and what we now see is just the tip of the iceberg for corruption.

1194 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:39:39pm

re: #1181 lifeofthemind

Israel should refuse to make access to Israeli territory a part of any cease fire. Gaza has a border with Egypt and Gaza has a seaport. Israel can insist on inspecting to keep weapons out but when not imposing a blockade during combat does not need to prevent Gazans from trading without going through Israel. If they can not make it a success like Hong Kong, Singapore or Gibraltar were when cut off from their hinterlands then that is their problem.

I agree on every point...they need absolute control in and out

1195 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:40:11pm

re: #1188 lifeofthemind

Is that a hint of dawn or just fire?

האם הוא אמר את האקדח אש? אש! Boom!

was it close?

1196 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:40:13pm

re: #1188 lifeofthemind

Is that a hint of dawn or just fire?


Just fire. No dawn for another four and a half hours, give or take.

1197 lobo91  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:40:24pm

re: #1175 jwb7605

Is that woman on NCIS Israeli in real life?
If not, she acts well.
She is hot, too.

No, she's Spanish.

1198 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:41:10pm

re: #1188 lifeofthemind

Fire. Sunrise is still 5 hours away.

1199 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:41:12pm

re: #1192 jcm

Thanks! Ziva. She steals half the scenes.

1200 MJ  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:41:57pm

Music to listen to while your Gazacam sound is out:

1201 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:42:20pm

supper is served. biab

1202 lobo91  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:42:38pm

re: #1197 lobo91

No, she's Spanish.

Okay, Chilean.

Close enough.

1203 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:43:18pm

re: #1186 Pickle

Has anyone noticed the latest, and most disgusting, blood libel the BBC has published? They're now accusing the IDF of shooting at fleeing civilians waving white flags.

No independent verification, no real facts other than the usual Pallywood storytelling, and look, at the bottom, at who reported it:

Research and reporting by Hamada Abu Qammar in Gaza and Heather Sharp, Fouad Abu Ghosh and Raya el-Din in Jerusalem

Gee, I wonder who was responsible for the bulk of that tripe.

Something seriously, seriously needs to be done about Jeremy "Lord Haw-Haw" Bowen, the BBC's middle east editor and raving Israel-hater. He's nothing more than the English Propaganda Liason of Hamas.

Israeli TV spoofs the BBC:

1204 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:43:31pm

re: #1193 Perplexed

Ah, Obambi administration? Mark my words that his administration will be the most corrupt since Grant's and what we now see is just the tip of the iceberg for corruption.

Kind of like Clinton's was going to be the most ethical administration.......

1205 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:43:39pm
1206 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:44:20pm

Video: Israeli TV goofs on BBC’s Gaza bias

Check it out. Israelly funny.

/ducking

1207 Archimedes  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:46:10pm

re: #1156 albusteve

that vid is simply one the most shocking examples of the horror these animals are capable of...right up there with the highrise pitch vids


Oh yeah, they throw women off of high rises for "adultery" and other minor things, and the stonings. I saw footage of stonings in Iran about ten years go on Usenet. Unwatchable.

1208 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:46:27pm

Ooh! Something really pretty, with lots of little sparkly bits, just blowed up!

1209 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:46:57pm

re: #1186 Pickle

Hey, look--it's Wailing Hijab Lady!

1210 nyc redneck  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:47:20pm

re: #1187 Outrider

and if the Arabs really sympathized with them, they could open the Egyptian border instead of shooting the Gazans.

it doesn't seem like any arabs really sympathize w/ them anymore.
and in fact, they are such a disgusting bunch of junk yard dogs, no one even sees any value in using them anymore, against israel.
that's the way it goes when you wear out your welcome as a "victim".
and become more trouble than you're worth.

1211 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:47:31pm

That was a doozy of a strike. Sucks w/o sound tho'

1212 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:47:46pm

re: #1202 lobo91

Okay, Chilean.

Close enough.

If she is a little chile I could offer to warm her up

1213 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:48:18pm

re: #1205 buzzsawmonkey

Remembering Lord Ha Ha and his propaganda broadcasts to the UK during WWII. After the war the Brits tried the bastard for treason, then hanged him.

1214 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:49:11pm

re: #1212 lifeofthemind

If she is a little chile I could offer to warm her up

Get in line, buddy.

1215 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:49:20pm

re: #1207 Archimedes

Oh yeah, they throw women off of high rises for "adultery" and other minor things, and the stonings. I saw footage of stonings in Iran about ten years go on Usenet. Unwatchable.

I made myself do it as well...speechless

1216 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:49:41pm

Just jumped back to "switch 2" cam and it's still dead.

1217 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:49:45pm
1218 MJ  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:52:04pm

Sound is back on!

1219 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:52:18pm

Audio back up.

1220 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:52:29pm

mic. fixed. Resume the ass-whooping

1221 So?  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:52:58pm

Steve Jobs is taking a leave of absence till June. I wish a speedy recover and great health.

1222 Bloodnok  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:53:07pm

re: #1158 CapeCoddah

Bloodnok, and any other New England lizard, well, all lizards, Loppyd, Jetpilot and I are setting up a lizard meet. No time/ date or location set yet. (probably in Boston) Anyone interested, please e-mail me, my nic is blue.

I done sent you an e-mail.

(Bloodnok is interested)

1223 So?  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:53:22pm

re: #1221 So?

Steve Jobs is taking a leave of absence till June. I wish a speedy recover and great health.

I wish HIM.....

1224 jcm  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:53:24pm

re: #1216 x-wing

Just jumped back to "switch 2" cam and it's still dead.

Honco Rooster wants some privacy.

1225 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:53:41pm

I tell you something about all of this that has me both depressed and in admiration:

The IDF appear to care more about the civilians in Gaza than the HAMASSholes do. The savages do everything they can to bring down the wrath of Israeli counter fire directly on civilian areas, and the IDF & IAF do everything they possibly can to keep civilians out of harm's way while they go in and clean the place up.

HAMAS? They CALL civilians to an area AFTER the Israelis have specifically warned them off.

Depressing, yet admirable.

1226 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:54:02pm

re: #1217 buzzsawmonkey

Weird. My comment--"Nice posed pic at the top of the article in that first link"--jumped to the middle of the quoted post.


Thread getting to long. My computer is acting up too. A new thread would .....

1227 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:54:05pm

Sound returns with an ambulance carrying humanitarian ordinance to the front lines. How fitting.

1228 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:54:08pm

re: #1206 loppyd

That's damn funny.

1229 Bloodnok  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:54:43pm

Which feed is working? The catsup one?

1230 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:55:45pm

re: #1177 reine.de.tout

I still have no sound. Just a picture.

You have mail.

1231 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:55:56pm

re: #1213 Dustyvet

Remembering Lord Ha Ha and his propaganda broadcasts to the UK during WWII. After the war the Brits tried the bastard for treason, then hanged him.

What is interesting is how they got the conviction. It turns out that he wasn't even a British citizen by birth, he was born in the United States but hadn't known it. So he was really a US citizen when he traveled to Germany and renounced his British citizenship and the US was then a neutral. He claimed that he broadcast as a German citizen and did not owe England his allegiance. His ancestry was Anglo-Irish and his Father had sided with the English during the Irish rebellion of 1916-1922. What got him was that he had used a British passport to travel from England to Germany. Since he had taken advantage of the protection of The Crown to go to Germany his subsequent allegiance to the enemy constituted treason.

1232 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:56:19pm

Anybody up to wading through the libtard cesspools to see what comments they are posting about us watching this video feed.

There's a Scoobie Snack in for you.

1233 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:56:35pm

I still have nothing... :-(

1234 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:56:48pm

re: #1224 jcm

Honco Rooster wants some privacy.

he's tougher than Hamas I'd wager...he's gotta have some down time...clean up, reload etc...

1235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:56:49pm

Ricardo Montalban died. Wow. He was 88.

"Ricardo Montalban is to improvisational acting what Mount Rushmore is to animation."
-John Cassavetes

"Fine Corinthian Leather"
-Ricardo Montalban

"Smiles, everyone, smiles"
-Mr. Roarke

"KIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRK!"
-Kahn

1236 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:56:50pm

I'm hearing three-round bursts of SA fire. That's the good guys! and they're close! Hang on, Rooster, they'll get you out of there yet!

1237 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:57:00pm

re: #1224 jcm

Honco Rooster wants some privacy.

I thought for sure those ambulance siren would stir him at least a little. But after the last couple of days, he probably needs the rest

1238 jcm  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:57:08pm

re: #1232 Bubblehead II

Anybody up to wading through the libtard cesspools to see what comments they are posting about us watching this video feed.

There's a Scoobie Snack in for you.

Ruh, Rno!

1239 Bloodnok  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:57:12pm

Got it! No sound though (From the link on the Gazacam Reprise thread on Monday)

1240 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:57:32pm

re: #1235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ricardo Montalban died. Wow. He was 88.

"Ricardo Montalban is to improvisational acting what Mount Rushmore is to animation."
-John Cassavetes

"Fine Corinthian Leather"
-Ricardo Montalban

"Smiles, everyone, smiles"
-Mr. Roarke

"KIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRK!"
-Kahn

I bow to the superior intelllect...

1241 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:57:32pm

re: #1228 Killgore Trout

That's damn funny.

I thought so!

1242 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:57:36pm

Fedex just delivered my Adobe Creative Suite upgrade.

1243 little blessing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:57:44pm

re: #1232 Bubblehead II

Why? Have they got a problem with self-education?

1244 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:57:53pm

Is it looping ?saw the ambulance again

1245 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:57:55pm

re: #1239 Bloodnok

Got it! No sound though (From the link on the Gazacam Reprise thread on Monday)

Please share it here...

1246 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:58:04pm

re: #1229 Bloodnok

Which feed is working? The catsup one?

This one

[Link: switch434-01.castup.net...]

1247 jcm  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:58:20pm

re: #1242 Alouette

Fedex just delivered my Adobe Creative Suite upgrade.

*green with envy*

Gotta run, later Honco's!

1248 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:58:27pm

re: #1240 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I bow to the superior intelllect...

Of whom? Certainly not me.

1249 Archimedes  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:58:43pm

re: #1186 Pickle

Has anyone noticed the latest, and most disgusting, blood libel the BBC has published? They're now accusing the IDF of shooting at fleeing civilians waving white flags.

No independent verification, no real facts other than the usual Pallywood storytelling, and look, at the bottom, at who reported it:

Research and reporting by Hamada Abu Qammar in Gaza and Heather Sharp, Fouad Abu Ghosh and Raya el-Din in Jerusalem

Such Anglo sounding names. What ever happened to the "Smiths", "Blairs" and "Holmes" in the UK? Is there a giant Mosque at 10 Downing Street?

1250 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:59:16pm

re: #1242 Alouette

Fedex just delivered my Adobe Creative Suite upgrade.

I don't know what that is, but it sure sounds cool.

1251 Bobblehead  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:00:26pm

re: #1235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ricardo Montalban died. Wow. He was 88.

"Ricardo Montalban is to improvisational acting what Mount Rushmore is to animation."
-John Cassavetes

"Fine Corinthian Leather"
-Ricardo Montalban

"Smiles, everyone, smiles"
-Mr. Roarke

"KIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRK!"
-Kahn

I think I heard that Patrick McGoohan died yesterday.

1252 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:00:30pm

re: #1250 loppyd

Remember "The Adobe" on SNL. Commercial for a car made of clay. If you dinged it? Just get it wet, shape it back up. Everybody who got out of it was filthy.

1253 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:00:42pm

re: #1247 jcm

*green with envy*

Gotta run, later Honco's!

The Zionists pay me well.

1254 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:01:09pm

re: #1249 Archimedes

BBC needs to take that up with HAMAS, who insists there are no white flags any where.

JUST
US,
R

1255 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:01:32pm

re: #1252 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Remember "The Adobe" on SNL. Commercial for a car made of clay. If you dinged it? Just get it wet, shape it back up. Everybody who got out of it was filthy.

that was "the sassy new import from Mexico," as I recall, with Phil Hartman as the pitch-man

1256 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:02:38pm

re: #1235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ricardo Montalban died. Wow. He was 88.

"Ricardo Montalban is to improvisational acting what Mount Rushmore is to animation."
-John Cassavetes

"Fine Corinthian Leather"
-Ricardo Montalban

"Smiles, everyone, smiles"
-Mr. Roarke

"KIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRK!"

SNL...Who's most macho skits.

RIP Ricardo
-Kahn

1257 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:02:49pm

re: #1252 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Remember "The Adobe" on SNL. Commercial for a car made of clay. If you dinged it? Just get it wet, shape it back up. Everybody who got out of it was filthy.

I don't remember that at all. What era?

1258 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:02:50pm

re: #1254 Render

BBC needs to take that up with HAMAS, who insists there are no white flags any where.

JUST
US,
R

Oh they will, at the next staff meeting.

1259 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:03:04pm

re: #1251 Bobblehead

I think I heard that Patrick McGoohan died yesterday.

Just another number.

1260 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:03:20pm

Phil Hartman. Sigh.

Hey, Jon Lovitz beat up Andy Dick cause he's the one who got Bryn back on cocaine three or four months before she shot Phil.

1261 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:03:25pm

re: #1248 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Of whom? Certainly not me.

Khan...

1262 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:03:30pm

re: #1235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How sad.

I once saw him in an interview and he said that he just made up "Corithian" leather on the set of the commercial.

1263 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:03:59pm

re: #1260 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Phil Hartman. Sigh.

Hey, Jon Lovitz beat up Andy Dick cause he's the one who got Bryn back on cocaine three or four months before she shot Phil.

Do you really need a reason to beat up Andy Dick?

1264 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:04:15pm
1265 Bobblehead  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:04:24pm

There's our rooster.

1266 MJ  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:04:30pm

Rooster is on.

1267 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:04:40pm

re: #1263 Guanxi88

Do you really need a reason to beat up Andy Dick?

Not really, but that, my friend, was a good reason.

1268 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:05:00pm

re: #1260 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Phil Hartman. Sigh.

Hey, Jon Lovitz beat up Andy Dick cause he's the one who got Bryn back on cocaine three or four months before she shot Phil.

Good for Lovitz.

Smackdown, thank you!

1269 Bloodnok  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:05:21pm

Seems they moved the microphones (or moved the roosters).

1270 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:05:22pm

re: #1244 lifeofthemind

Is it looping ?saw the ambulance again

I thought I saw a loop before. An explosion kept repeating.

1271 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:05:40pm

re: #1268 CyanSnowHawk

Good for Lovitz.

Smackdown, thank you!

The fact that it was Lovitz makes it even better.

1272 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:06:14pm

re: #1257 loppyd

I don't remember that at all. What era?


Adobe

Spokesman.....Phil Hartman


Spokesman: These days, everyone's talking about the Hyundai, and the Yugo. Both nice cars, if you've got $3,000 or $4,000 to throw around. But, for those of us whose name doesn't happen to be Rockefeller, finally there's some good news - a car with a sticker price of $179. That's right, $179. The name of the car?

Adobe. The sassy new Mexican import that's made out of clay. German engineering and Mexican know-how helped create the first car to break the $200 barrier. At this price, you might not expect more than reliable transportation - but, brother, you get it! Extra features: like the custom contour seats, or the beverage-gripping dash. And the money you save isn't exactly small change!

Jingle:
"Hey, hey, we're Adobe!
The little car that's made out of clay!
We're gonna save you some money
that you can spend in some other way!
Hey, hey, we're Adobe!
Hey, hey, we're Adobe!
Adobe!"

[ show Adobe driver get into a fender-bender. She casually steps out of the vehicle and uses her hands to mold her bumper back into its proper shape, in under six minutes! ]

Spokesman: Adobe. You can buy a cheaper car. But I wouldn't recommend it!

Announcer: Not approved for street use in some states. No warranty either expressed or implied. All sales final.

1273 So?  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:06:30pm

re: #1264 buzzsawmonkey

If he has pancreatic cancer, then all the wishes in the world will, alas, do him little good.

Well, nobody, including himself, has said that, now have they? Why imply the worst? Take him at his word.

1274 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:06:47pm

re: #1260 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Phil Hartman. Sigh.

Hey, Jon Lovitz beat up Andy Dick cause he's the one who got Bryn back on cocaine three or four months before she shot Phil.

I watched that era, but don't recall the skit - that was end of HS/beginning of college.

1275 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:07:24pm

Methinks the sound is looping.

1276 Archimedes  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:07:38pm

re: #1242 Alouette

Fedex just delivered my Adobe Creative Suite upgrade.

I'm learning Flex 3 Builder from Adobe. It's an impressive editor for Flex, and Flex is an impressive language for doing web pages.

1277 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:07:50pm

re: #1274 loppyd

I watched that era, but don't recall the skit - that was end of HS/beginning of college.

And good for John Lovitz.

EAT SHHHHHTEAK!

1278 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:07:56pm

re: #1271 Guanxi88

The fact that it was Lovitz makes it even better.

There was a t-shirt, Mount Rushmore is on it, Jon Lovitz beside it waving, the caption read, "What about Jon Lovitz?"

I still kick myself for not buying it when I could.

1279 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:08:33pm

re: #1273 So?

re: #1264 buzzsawmonkey


Well, nobody, including himself, has said that, now have they? Why imply the worst? Take him at his word.

/he has pancreatic cancer and it's terminal, incurable

1280 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:08:37pm
1281 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:08:42pm

re: #1265 Bobblehead

There's our rooster.

Nope that's not ours. I have the Beak Recognition Determinator&#8482 on and that is not him. ;>}

1282 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:08:46pm

Sounds like there is a lot of activity in Gaza, fires too.

1283 doppelganglander  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:08:52pm

re: #1272 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I remember the Adobe. I loved Phil Hartman. He's one of the very few celebrities whose death personally disturbed me.

1284 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:08:56pm

re: #1278 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There was a t-shirt, Mount Rushmore is on it, Jon Lovitz beside it waving, the caption read, "What about Jon Lovitz?"

I still kick myself for not buying it when I could.

Oh, and the Critic. Don't forget "The Critic," a favorite, just behind "Duckman."

1285 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:09:01pm

re: #1272 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I love it. Clay car.

1286 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:09:30pm

re: #1278 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There was a t-shirt, Mount Rushmore is on it, Jon Lovitz beside it waving, the caption read, "What about Jon Lovitz?"

I still kick myself for not buying it when I could.

My favorite Lovitz bit was when he and Jon Lithgow faced off as the Actor and his mentor.

1287 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:09:44pm

re: #1243 little blessing

Apparently. Otherwise they wouldn't be supporting these assholes. I am just curious to see if the stalkers have been paying attention to what is going on here and if they are making snide remarks about how blood thirsty we are for watching the feed or how ignorant we are not to "see" the massive genocidal assault that the Israeli's are carrying out on the poor oppressed palestinians when the evidence is right in front of us, live.

1288 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:10:27pm

re: #1283 doppelganglander

I remember the Adobe. I loved Phil Hartman. He's one of the very few celebrities whose death personally disturbed me.

John Lennon goin down broke my heart real bad....

1289 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:10:40pm

re: #1285 loppyd

I love it. Clay car.

Spokesman: Adobe. You can buy a cheaper car. But I wouldn't recommend it!

1290 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:11:00pm

Aw jeez, Islam is a category on Jeopardy! tonight.

1291 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:11:22pm

It is so frickin' cold here in Ohio I wanna puke. Hey, AL GORE! The planet does not have a fevah. It has an ice-pack on its head!

1292 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:11:24pm
1293 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:11:26pm

re: #1290 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Aw jeez, Islam is a category on Jeopardy! tonight.

Is every answer, "BOOM!"?

1294 USBeast  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:11:29pm

Charles. We need a new thread. Jon Lovitz? Sheesh!

1295 Bloodnok  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:11:33pm

Achmed's throwing a party

1296 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:11:39pm

re: #1287 Bubblehead II

remarks about how blood thirsty we are

I keep thinking that every kaboom, there may be one less terrorist, and with his death, so much LESS blood shed by innocents.

Dead terrorist!
Dead terrorist!
Dead terrorist!

/nugent

1297 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:11:44pm

re: #1290 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Aw jeez, Islam is a category on Jeopardy! tonight.

Speaking of John Lovitz....

1298 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:11:51pm

Meeting to discuss unconditional surrender?

1299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:12:22pm

re: #1294 USBeast

Charles. We need a new thread. Jon Lovitz? Sheesh!

What about Jon Lovitz?

1300 pingjockey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:12:34pm

re: #1290 Who Watches the Watchmen?

A. Islam, Q. What is the religion of death.

1301 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:12:35pm

What's with the people speaking.... on Gazacam.

1302 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:12:43pm

I can hear folks speaking off-mike. It has that "asthmatic stutterer with Tourettes" quality of demotic Arabic, so probably some Pali's talking.

1303 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:12:50pm

re: #1292 buzzsawmonkey

Has anyone ever seen Doric or Ionic leather?

No, but I've heard of Corellian leather. And never ask a Corellian the odds.

1304 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:12:53pm

re: #1250 loppyd

I don't know what that is, but it sure sounds cool.

Loppyd - nic is blue, if you want to contact me about the online scrabble.

1305 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:12:56pm
1306 USBeast  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:12:59pm

re: #1298 ArmyWife

Meeting to discuss unconditional surrender?

By whom to whom?

1307 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:12:59pm

re: #1292 buzzsawmonkey

Has anyone ever seen Doric or Ionic leather?

No, but my old VW had Mixolydian leather.

1308 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:13:22pm

re: #1304 reine.de.tout

Loppyd - nic is blue, if you want to contact me about the online scrabble.

OK - will do it right now.

1309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:13:23pm

re: #1303 Silhouette

Inconceivable!

1310 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:13:44pm

re: #1299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What about Jon Lovitz?

It all started when it was mentioned that he beat up Andy Dick for getting Phil Hartman's hooked on coke again a few months before she killed him.

1311 CynicalConservative  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:13:53pm

Sounds like someone is vacuuming around the camera.

1312 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:13:53pm

re: #1290 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Aw jeez, Islam is a category on Jeopardy! tonight.

I'll take "jihad on the Joooos" for $400, Alex.

/submission

1313 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:13:58pm

re: #1305 buzzsawmonkey

Un-pre-conditional surrender, in honor of the President-to-be.

No, I think he'll treat us to unconditional pre-surrender.

1314 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:14:05pm

re: #1292 buzzsawmonkey

Has anyone ever seen Doric or Ionic leather?

only in grease...

1315 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:14:11pm

They just turned a generator on.

1316 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:14:15pm

re: #1304 reine.de.tout

Loppyd - nic is blue, if you want to contact me about the online scrabble.

Mail call, reine.

1317 USBeast  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:14:15pm

re: #1299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What about Jon Lovitz?

Surely there are more important/entertaining subjects.

1318 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:14:28pm

re: #1292 buzzsawmonkey

Has anyone ever seen Doric or Ionic leather?

No....but I've got a down filled pillar. Rest my head on it every night.....

1319 Bloodnok  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:15:01pm

If they are using an external microphone I am guessing they brought it inside. Or they are switching audio feeds.

1320 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:15:02pm

re: #1292 buzzsawmonkey

Has anyone ever seen Doric or Ionic leather?


No, but I remember the time when poor little Naugas were deprived of their hydes.

1321 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:15:02pm

Still seeing tracer fire going up. Saw several rockets as well. Still hearing lots of automatic fire.

I think most of this is in the direction of Merkava Ridge, but it's kinda difficult to tell without landmarks.

ROCK
ON,
R

1322 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:15:10pm

re: #1293 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Is every answer, "BOOM!"?

That kinda in a weird way reminds me of a joke our preacher told making fun of the, shall we say, single theme in Christian Sunday School, especially for the really young children.

The teacher asks the child, "Who has two big teeth, a long furry tail, and hides nuts for the winter?"

The kid answers, "I know the answer is Jesus but it sure sounds like a squirrel to me."

1323 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:15:14pm

re: #1311 CynicalConservative

Sounds like someone is vacuuming around the camera.

Gotta spruce up the place, the IDF is coming over for breakfast.

1324 pingjockey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:15:25pm

re: #1310 CyanSnowHawk
Who the hell is Andy Dick? I could've probably went the rest of the year in blissful ignorance, now I want to know. Sheesh.

1325 doppelganglander  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:15:29pm

re: #1290 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Aw jeez, Islam is a category on Jeopardy! tonight.

Any lizard could run the board without breaking a sweat.

1326 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:15:36pm

re: #1154 Guanxi88

All right, a technical question:

If I was wanting to record this Rooster-cam stuff later (you know, when what we see looks like a cross between the Beijing Olympics opening ceremony, the napalm in the morning scene in Apocalypse now, and a close-up of a solar flare) how would I go about doing it?

on Linux the Kaffeine media player has a save stream option...

maybe the VLC Player has something similar?

1327 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:15:51pm
1328 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:16:19pm

re: #1303 Silhouette

Whoops! Wrong reference. Was thinking Vizzini from "The Princess Bride". What was I thinking? Dunno.

1329 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:16:32pm

re: #1324 pingjockey

Who the hell is Andy Dick? I could've probably went the rest of the year in blissful ignorance, now I want to know. Sheesh.

I could not recall any of those people mentioned....darn

1330 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:16:34pm

re: #1309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

LOL! A Corellian, not a Sicillian. From Corellia, the home planet of Han Solo and Wedge Antilles.

/but you knew that, right?

1331 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:16:43pm

Gazacam...the IDF is kicking Hamas's butt right now.

1332 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:16:45pm

re: #1292 buzzsawmonkey

Has anyone ever seen Doric or Ionic leather?

And where exactly does Naugahyde come from. Ain't never seen me a Nauga......

1333 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:16:49pm

re: #1325 doppelganglander

Any lizard could run the board without breaking a sweat.

I got four out of five. Each question was one of the five pillars of Islam.

1334 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:17:04pm

re: #1324 pingjockey

Who the hell is Andy Dick? I could've probably went the rest of the year in blissful ignorance, now I want to know. Sheesh.

Some asshole, thinks he's a comedian.

1335 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:17:09pm

U.S. authorities remove 'Adolf Hitler,' 2 siblings with Nazi-like names from family home

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Police say three New Jersey siblings whose names have Nazi connotations have been removed from their parents' home and placed in the custody of the state.

And I thought there was no way I could be anymore embarrassed being from NJ?

1336 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:17:26pm
1337 Bloodnok  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:17:27pm

re: #1332 LGoPs

And where exactly does Naugahyde come from. Ain't never seen me a Nauga......

That's because they're hiding.

1338 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:17:34pm

re: #1327 buzzsawmonkey

re: #1320 rightymouse


Dr. Jekyll had his office re-done by Mr. Naugahyde.


And THAT was an ugly sight to behold. Completely fauxstian.

1339 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:17:42pm

Looks like three seperate points of contact. More tank fire...

CRA-BOOM-CK,
R

1340 little blessing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:17:45pm

re: #1287 Bubblehead II

Apparently. Otherwise they wouldn't be supporting these assholes. I am just curious to see if the stalkers have been paying attention to what is going on here and if they are making snide remarks about how blood thirsty we are for watching the feed or how ignorant we are not to "see" the massive genocidal assault that the Israeli's are carrying out on the poor oppressed palestinians when the evidence is right in front of us, live.

Couldn't care less for their snide remarks. If any of them are reading this then I offer the following advice:

WAKEUP! You have a unique opportunity to see for yourself what really is going on in Gaza. If you have any honest conscience at all, you would pay careful attention and learn something. War is never pretty but what we are seeing in front of us is not what I would call the destruction of war. These are just calculated strikes against ones enemy, taking civilians (whose innocence can be argued) into consideration so that few get hurt.

However, it is unlikely that you have any desire to learn something for yourself and would rather spout whatever filth the media promotes. Go ahead. I wouldn't get in the way of cockroaches.

1341 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:17:54pm

re: #1317 USBeast

Surely there are more important/entertaining subjects.

As your punishment, I shall mention Jon Lovitz every time I see your nic for a week!

/

1342 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:18:25pm

re: #1332 LGoPs

And where exactly does Naugahyde come from. Ain't never seen me a Nauga......

Related to the snipe. Larger and easier to skin.

1343 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:18:26pm

re: #1333 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I got four out of five. Each question was one of the five pillars of Islam.

LGoPs says he's got himself a pillar.

1344 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:18:27pm

re: #1304 reine.de.tout

Loppyd - nic is blue, if you want to contact me about the online scrabble.

Email on the way. My name is the same initials as my nic....

1345 pingjockey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:18:37pm

re: #1333 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Murder innocents
Kill infidels
Beat your wife
Rape children
Kill all the Jews
Is that all 5?

1346 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:18:37pm

re: #1332 LGoPs

And where exactly does Naugahyde come from. Ain't never seen me a Nauga......

The Jurassic swamps of New Jersey

1347 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:19:09pm
1348 USBeast  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:19:13pm

re: #1341 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

As your punishment, I shall mention Jon Lovitz every time I see your nic for a week!

/

Yeah, that's the ticket.

1349 doppelganglander  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:19:52pm

re: #1333 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I got four out of five. Each question was one of the five pillars of Islam.

Excellent. Jeopardy is like that -- once you answer the first couple of questions, the rest of the category just falls into place. That's why you always work it top to bottom.

1350 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:19:59pm

re: #1342 CyanSnowHawk

Related to the snipe. Larger and easier to skin.

I was shocked when in adulthood I found out there really is an animal called the snipe.

1351 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:20:23pm

re: #1348 USBeast

Jon Lovitz.

Gotta run. Beast? (Best Yul Brenner impression)

"So it is written, so it shall be done."

1352 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:20:28pm

Something is on fire.

1353 pingjockey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:20:36pm

re: #1334 CyanSnowHawk
Ah. Don't know of him so good for me, I guess.

1354 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:20:36pm

re: #1343 Silhouette

LGoPs says he's got himself a pillar.

Sleeps on it even. I usually wake up with one.

1355 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:20:45pm

re: #1233 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I still have nothing... :-(

have you tried this one?

1356 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:21:11pm
1357 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:21:29pm

re: #1346 lifeofthemind

The Jurassic swamps of New Jersey

You mean the Meadowlands?

1358 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:21:30pm

I hope Achmed has plenty of fuel for that generator. If he runs out in the middle of this...I'll have to find something else to do. And I'll be pissed.

1359 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:21:31pm

Barack Obama: it is no longer important to kill Osama bin Laden

Barack Obama last night suggested it was no longer important to kill Osama bin Laden.

In an interview with CBS news the president-elect indicted he believes that it was more important now to simply contain the al-Qaeda leader.

He said: "I think that we have to so weaken his infrastructure that, whether he is technically alive or not, he is so pinned down that he cannot function.

And don't count on many of the Gitmo detainees going to trial if they're removed from Cuba.

/and justice for no one

1360 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:21:32pm

re: #1345 pingjockey

Murder innocents
Kill infidels
Beat your wife
Rape children
Kill all the Jews
Is that all 5?

I think you combine "kill infidels", "kill Jews", and "Murder innocents" into "Kill everyone"

And then you have room to add

4) Whining
5) Seething

1361 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:21:34pm

re: #1350 Silhouette

I was shocked when in adulthood I found out there really is an animal called the snipe.

fun to kill with a gun....very fast

1362 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:21:35pm

Long bursts of 50cal. Probably DsHK. Short bursts of M-240 and Negev (M-249) SAW fire. More tank rounds.

Very close to the mic.

DRIVE
ON,
R

1363 USBeast  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:21:48pm

re: #1350 Silhouette

I was shocked when in adulthood I found out there really is an animal called the snipe.

I remember a vacation when my grandmother was shocked to learn that there really was such a bird as a Roadrunner.

1364 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:21:51pm

re: #1292 buzzsawmonkey

Has anyone ever seen Doric or Ionic leather?

Enuff about whether it's Doric or Corinthian or whatever. If you're that interested, write a column about it........
:)

1365 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:22:21pm

re: #1352 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Something is on fire.

not Arthur Brown again....groan

1366 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:22:39pm

re: #1352 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Something is on fire.

Can't sleep, bed's on fire:

Or, if you prefer, Burning Down the House:

1367 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:22:55pm

re: #1361 albusteve

fun to kill with a gun....very fast

So you have actually been on a snipe hunt?

Very nifty.

1368 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:22:56pm

re: #1359 Killian Bundy

Barack Obama: it is no longer important to kill Osama bin Laden

And don't count on many of the Gitmo detainees going to trial if they're removed from Cuba.

/and justice for no one

I read somewhere that the US Naval Base in Charleston, SC is going to be the new Gitmo.

1369 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:22:59pm

re: #1333 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I got four out of five. Each question was one of the five pillars of Islam.

Was one of 'em a comfy piller?
:)

1370 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:23:02pm

re: #1350 Silhouette

I was shocked when in adulthood I found out there really is an animal called the snipe.

With cryptic plumage even.

/What's that? Plumage run through an Enigma?

1371 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:23:10pm

re: #1363 USBeast

Jon Lovitz.

1372 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:23:19pm

re: #1296 Silhouette

Ted Nugent. Kiss My Glock. NSFW

1373 pingjockey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:23:27pm

re: #1360 Silhouette
Of course, how could I forget those two?!

1374 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:23:39pm

re: #1347 buzzsawmonkey

re: #1338 rightymouse


Fauxstian, perhaps, but a bargain at the price.


I must confess that the Fauxstian couch I bought at a bargain had a tendency to Liszt to one side.

1375 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:23:43pm

re: #1363 USBeast

I remember a vacation when my grandmother was shocked to learn that there really was such a bird as a Roadrunner.

That's hilarious.

1376 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:24:13pm

re: #1292 buzzsawmonkey

Has anyone ever seen Doric or Ionic leather?

Isn't that what Bill Gates wears when he wants to get kinky? Oh! Dor-IK! Sorry--never mind.

1377 CynicalConservative  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:24:15pm

BOOM!

1378 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:24:18pm

re: #1363 USBeast

I remember a vacation when my grandmother was shocked to learn that there really was such a bird as a Roadrunner.

there is a fine bird there....they visit me everyday to eat Lizards...

1379 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:24:27pm

re: #1374 rightymouse

I must confess that the Fauxstian couch I bought at a bargain had a tendency to Liszt to one side.

Don't Goethe me started...

1380 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:24:44pm

O.K. did anybody else jump after that last blast, or just me?

1381 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:24:45pm

All I can see are the dreaded genocidal night flares.

1382 USBeast  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:24:46pm

re: #1371 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Jon Lovitz.

You have a funny way of leaving.

1383 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:25:27pm

re: #1380 x-wing

O.K. did anybody else jump after that last blast, or just me?

guilty!

1384 pingjockey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:25:53pm

re: #1380 x-wing
Where are y'all seeing this at?

1385 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:26:03pm

re: #1378 albusteve

there is a fine bird there....they visit me everyday to eat Lizards...

I saw my very first one a few months ago when I was in your fair city. Visiting the petroglyphs.

1386 USBeast  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:26:22pm

re: #1378 albusteve

there is a fine bird there....they visit me everyday to eat Lizards...

I hope you are taking protective measures.

1387 Bobblehead  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:26:25pm

re: #1384 pingjockey

Where are y'all seeing this at?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

1388 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:26:33pm

BBIAB

1389 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:26:35pm

re: #1368 loppyd

I read somewhere that the US Naval Base in Charleston, SC is going to be the new Gitmo.

Rumors yesterday that they might move some of them to Camp Pendleton. Many people in San Diego not happy about that.

1390 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:26:50pm

re: #1384 pingjockey

Where are y'all seeing this at?

In Gaza.

1391 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:26:57pm

re: #1367 Silhouette

So you have actually been on a snipe hunt?

Very nifty.

no...my best friend has a coupla times...told me all about it...I dont think he ever got more than a couple...you need to be an expert or better

1392 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:27:07pm

Something so big it almost blew out my speakers. Parachute flare. Two more rockets.

Saw some landmarks, confirm most of the firing is from the direction of Merkava Ridge. This side of the ridge...

DRIVE
ON,
R

1393 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:27:14pm

what just blew up?

1394 Attaboid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:27:24pm

re: #1383 loppyd

OOH another!

1395 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:27:31pm

re: #1379 Guanxi88

re: #1374 rightymouse


Don't Goethe me started...

Marlowe out, would ya?

1396 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:27:34pm

re: #1389 CyanSnowHawk

Rumors yesterday that they might move some of them to Camp Pendleton. Many people in San Diego not happy about that.

And for good reason.

Really gone now.

BBL

1397 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:28:00pm

re: #1395 rightymouse

Marlowe out, would ya?

Nice, very literate.

1398 Bloodnok  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:28:04pm

re: #1380 x-wing

O.K. did anybody else jump after that last blast, or just me?

Go and change your armor.

1399 CynicalConservative  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:28:11pm

re: #1393 Outrider

what just blew up?

Splodeydopes.

1400 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:28:18pm

re: #1389 CyanSnowHawk

Rumors yesterday that they might move some of them to Camp Pendleton. Many people in San Diego not happy about that.

I think they should room one with each liberal that voted for Obama. Like rotate them around the country till all 52% get at least a few nights.

1401 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:28:18pm
1402 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:28:34pm

re: #1368 loppyd

re: #1359 Killian Bundy


Barack Obama: it is no longer important to kill Osama bin Laden

And don't count on many of the Gitmo detainees going to trial if they're removed from Cuba.

/and justice for no one


I read somewhere that the US Naval Base in Charleston, SC is going to be the new Gitmo.

With a whole different set of laws, where almost all the evidence won't come in because of how it was obtained or for national security reasons.

/oh, and potential double jeopardy issues for the HVTs currently on trial if their trials are interrupted and the venue is changed

1403 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:28:38pm
1404 Unakite  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:28:51pm

re: #1333 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Jeez, you ruined the surprise. Jeopardy! isn't on here yet.

1405 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:28:54pm

Another big one. I can see the water tower that is just above the cemetary that HAMAS was firing from last night.

DRIVE
ON,
R

1406 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:28:56pm

re: #1394 Attaboid

OOH another!

Holy Smokes.

I haaaaave to go change the clothes over.

BBL damn it! :)

1407 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:29:00pm

re: #1393 Outrider

what just blew up?

Da Owl?

1408 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:29:11pm
1409 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:29:38pm

re: #1399 CynicalConservative

Splodeydopes.

must of been a whole gang..... (herd? flock? swarm?) Must have been a whole swarm of them then. ;-)>

1410 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:29:44pm

re: #1408 buzzsawmonkey

BBL

Later buzz.

1411 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:29:51pm

re: #1403 buzzsawmonkey

Leave the owls, save the rooster!

before the Rooster sleeps with the fishes

1412 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:30:03pm

Great interview with Dick Cheney on the Lehrer show

1413 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:30:19pm

re: #1401 taxfreekiller

Five miles - maximum. Ten to twelve would be inside Israel.

OVER,
R

1414 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:30:20pm

re: #1385 Silhouette

re: #1386 USBeast

I welcome them...they are fun to have around....they dont seem to be too spooked by people...pretty cool to see them run down a lizard

1415 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:30:38pm

re: #1409 Outrider

must of been a whole gang..... (herd? flock? swarm?) Must have been a whole swarm of them then. ;-)>

Clique?

1416 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:30:39pm

re: #1384 pingjockey

Where are y'all seeing this at?


Here

[Link: switch434-01.castup.net...]

1417 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:30:41pm

re: #1340 little blessing

If you have any honest conscience at all, you would pay careful attention and learn something.

And that is the crux of the problem. When it comes to Israel, they have no conscience, just emotions. All of them negative.

1418 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:30:54pm

Sounds like the fighting is getting closer to the rooster. Fires all along the horizon.

1419 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:31:16pm

re: #1415 CyanSnowHawk

Clique?

eh I think I'm sticking with swarm. lol seems more appropriate.

1420 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:31:27pm

re: #1409 Outrider

must of been a whole gang..... (herd? flock? swarm?) Must have been a whole swarm of them then. ;-)>

Gaggle......

1421 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:31:33pm

re: #1234 albusteve

he's tougher than Hamas I'd wager...he's gotta have some down time...clean up, reload etc...

get a shave and some sleep...:)

1422 CynicalConservative  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:32:13pm

re: #1419 Outrider

eh I think I'm sticking with swarm. lol seems more appropriate.

Gaggle? Murder? (mean to crows, I know). Plethora?

1423 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:32:30pm

re: #1419 Outrider

eh I think I'm sticking with swarm. lol seems more appropriate.

Swarm happens after.

Clique, BOOM, swarm. In that order.

1424 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:32:57pm

I keep hearing these three round bursts. Now, unless these HAMASSholes have got better fire-discipline than the average Arab, those are the good guys I hear.

1425 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:32:57pm

The string of lights in the distance is the Israeli border. In daylight you can see cars driving along the border road inside Israel.

Yes, it's all that close.

DRIVE
ON,
R

1426 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:32:59pm

re: #1316 jorline

Mail call, reine.

GOT IT

1427 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:33:16pm

re: #1398 Bloodnok

Go and change your armor.

Had the volume up, listening for rooster. I do that during thunder storms sometimes, even when I know it's coming ;>}

1428 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:33:16pm

re: #1422 CynicalConservative

Gaggle? Murder? (mean to crows, I know). Plethora?

How 'bout... infestation?

1429 buzzdroid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:33:20pm

photos of IDF tanks during operation cast lead

Image: 496df75021cc40622.jpg

Image: 496df75021cc40623.jpg

1430 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:33:20pm

re: #1420 LGoPs

Gaggle......

ahh gaggle is alright also. I used swarm because of car swarm, building swarm, etc...

1431 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:33:26pm

re: #1422 CynicalConservative

Gaggle? Murder? (mean to crows, I know). Plethora?

Jeffe, what is a plethora?

1432 legalpad  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:33:30pm

re: #1235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ricardo saved the Star Trek movies.

1433 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:33:49pm

re: #1397 Guanxi88

re: #1395 rightymouse


Nice, very literate.

I am to please. :)

Marlowe was one of the first to popularize Faust. Goethe made him more of a tormented type a couple of centuries later.

1434 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:33:52pm

re: #1422 CynicalConservative

Gaggle? Murder? (mean to crows, I know). Plethora?

I can get behind crows and murder.... and grackles...

1435 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:34:09pm

It's all part of the global war on terrorism.....
Saudi 'fighter-priest' killed in Gaza battle

....a Web site identified with a radical Islamic organization that preaches jihad and features the logo of Hamas' military wing, reported that Abu Muhammed Mari, a Saudi sheikh mujahid ("fighter-priest"), who previously fought in Afghanistan, Bosnia and Chechnya, was killed in the fighting in Gaza.

1436 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:34:26pm

re: #1423 CyanSnowHawk

Swarm happens after.

Clique, BOOM, swarm. In that order.

ding. that works

1437 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:34:27pm

re: #1424 Guanxi88

I keep hearing these three round bursts. Now, unless these HAMASSholes have got better fire-discipline than the average Arab, those are the good guys I hear.

up close...

1438 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:34:28pm

Rocket going up, WP coming down.

FAIR
TRADE,
R

1439 CynicalConservative  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:34:29pm

re: #1428 LGoPs

How 'bout... infestation?

We have a winnah!

1440 little blessing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:34:37pm

re: #1417 Bubblehead II

If you have any honest conscience at all, you would pay careful attention and learn something.

And that is the crux of the problem. When it comes to Israel, they have no conscience, just emotions. All of them negative.

Of course. I forgot who we're dealing with.

1441 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:34:49pm

re: #1433 rightymouse

I am to please. :)

Marlowe was one of the first to popularize Faust. Goethe made him more of a tormented type a couple of centuries later.

Yeah, always thought Marlowe's take was better, more authentic. Goethe's? Eh, so he becomes an enlightened do-gooder, and gets to welch on the deal? I think not.

1442 Cathypop  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:35:21pm

re: #1375 Silhouette

re: #1363 USBeast


That's hilarious.


And they don't go beep-beep

1443 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:35:43pm

That was 'aim to please' for #1433.

PIMF

1444 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:35:51pm

re: #1381 Silhouette

All I can see are the dreaded genocidal night flares.

They just light up the horror of those high-rise concentration camp bunkers.

1445 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:35:56pm

Wondering if Roosters got his jump wings, and been to recondo school...

1446 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:36:37pm

re: #1445 Dustyvet

Wondering if Roosters got his jump wings, and been to recondo school...

I'll bet he's just a leg.......

1447 realwest  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:37:16pm

Hey y'all - how is everyone tonight?

1448 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:37:49pm

re: #1251 Bobblehead

I think I heard that Patrick McGoohan died yesterday.

I heard he died yesterday today.

1449 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:37:51pm

re: #1445 Dustyvet

Wondering if Roosters got his jump wings, and been to recondo school...

I bet he's a leg. he crows to much until the fire starts... then he hides. When its over he comes out and crows. dang; kinda like the Gazans.

1450 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:38:05pm

Very few light on in Gaza tonight. The rooster is still quiet.

1451 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:38:12pm

re: #1437 albusteve

up close...

Wait, Baron! My brother is coming with many Fremen warriors!

1452 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:38:35pm

re: #1447 realwest

Hey y'all - how is everyone tonight?

Not bad Real....working on the longest thread in the history of mankind. Or at least in the last few hours.....
:)

1453 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:38:55pm

re: #1447 realwest

Hey y'all - how is everyone tonight?

We're fine, but Ricardo Montalban won't be down for breakfast.

1454 USBeast  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:39:35pm

re: #1442 Cathypop

And they don't go beep-beep

Can't swear to that. We were going down Ike's Interstate in a '59 Caddy.

1455 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:39:38pm

Multiple big ones, very close. Was HAMAS stashing an artillery piece of their own?

Couple of very large flashes on the horizon.

DRIVE
ON,
R

1456 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:39:45pm

re: #1453 Guanxi88

We're fine, but Ricardo Montalban won't be down for breakfast.

he'll be down... just ain't coming back up.

1457 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:39:50pm

re: #1453 Guanxi88

We're fine, but Ricardo Montalban won't be down for breakfast.

That's cold!

1458 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:39:57pm

re: #1447 realwest

Hey y'all - how is everyone tonight?

Hey, RW. You have mail.

1459 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:40:11pm

This thread smells of old farts, stale smoke, spilt beer, sweat and socks.........and thats just the chicks. You wouldnt wanna go anywhere near the bloke's corner

New thread?

Oh, and boom booms over at Gaza.

1460 doppelganglander  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:40:42pm

I think the rooster cam is just a little too depressing for me tonight. This week I lost a high school classmate (car accident), found out my husband may be getting laid off at the end of the month, and my mom is going in for surgery tomorrow. So I really prefer the Jon Lovitz aspect of the thread.

1461 realwest  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:40:43pm

re: #1452 LGoPs
Well I reckon Charles is busy and just hasn't had time to put up a new thread. But this IS kinda long for a non- GazaCam thread or a non-creationist/ID thread.
How are ya?

1462 Clutch  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:40:57pm

re: #207 Outrider

had a '64 1/2 years back that someone had slapped a 289 in. Couldn't bring it back to USA because it had no certificate.

Then had a '79 Mustang. Dumped the 4 cyl. that was in it and put in a 302 from a wrecked truck. Not a real good marriage.

Sounds like me. My first car was a 74 Mustang II fastback with the crappy V-6. Pulled the six and dropped in a 289 that I pulled from a wrecked (but not that badly) 67 Mustang hardtop. I wish I was smarter then, because I should have fixed the '67 (rear end damage mostly. Parted it out and made what I spent on acquiring it) and canned the Mustang II (sigh...), but I wanted to build something different. The 289 had all the Cobra goodies including a deep-sump oil pan, mild street cam, headers, the whole enchilada. Never did get the Mustang II to run worth a damn, since it would always overheat no matter what i tried, but it was mighty quick when it did run! Traded it in on a loaded 1980 Dodge Mirada, but I always wonder what happened to my old project car...

1463 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:41:12pm

re: #1448 jwb7605

I heard he died yesterday today.

I heard he died yesterday tomorrow, since its Thursday, here.

1464 avanti  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:41:21pm

re: #1359 Killian Bundy

Barack Obama: it is no longer important to kill Osama bin Laden

I love the way the press picks comments for a catchy title. "Obama wants to kill Osama" just would not work from the preceding paragraph,although it is kinda catchy too.


"My preference obviously would be to capture or kill him. But if we have so tightened the noose that he's in a cave somewhere and can't even communicate with his operatives then we will meet our goal of protecting America."

1465 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:41:28pm

re: #1459 A Kiwi Infidel

This thread smells of old farts, stale smoke, spilt beer, sweat and socks.........and thats just the chicks. You wouldnt wanna go anywhere near the bloke's corner

New thread?

Oh, and boom booms over at Gaza.

the spittoon in the corner ain't been emptied of the used RedMan yet either. ;-)>

1466 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:41:43pm

re: #1447 realwest

Still hanging in. GazaCam has been very active tonight. You?

1467 Attaboid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:41:56pm

3 whoomps in a row. What was that?

1468 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:42:03pm

re: #1461 realwest

Well I reckon Charles is busy and just hasn't had time to put up a new thread. But this IS kinda long for a non- GazaCam thread or a non-creationist/ID thread.
How are ya?

Good evening, Realwest!
This may be a non-Gazacam thread, but it's been pretty much the hottest topic here for awhile.

Big bunches of fighting a little earlier.

1469 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:42:06pm

re: #1461 realwest

Well I reckon Charles is busy and just hasn't had time to put up a new thread. But this IS kinda long for a non- GazaCam thread or a non-creationist/ID thread.
How are ya?

I'm well my friend. And you're right...any thread is a good thread

1470 USBeast  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:42:07pm

re: #1459 A Kiwi Infidel

This thread smells of old farts, stale smoke, spilt beer, sweat and socks.........and thats just the chicks. You wouldnt wanna go anywhere near the bloke's corner

New thread?

Oh, and boom booms over at Gaza.

Who...spilled...BEER?

1471 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:42:07pm

re: #1463 A Kiwi Infidel

I heard he died yesterday tomorrow, since its Thursday, here.

Word does get around!

1472 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:42:14pm

re: #1441 Guanxi88

re: #1433 rightymouse


Yeah, always thought Marlowe's take was better, more authentic. Goethe's? Eh, so he becomes an enlightened do-gooder, and gets to welch on the deal? I think not.

Reading Geothe always made me want to slit my wrists for some reason.

Do you remember that bloody AWFUL movie Burton and Taylor did - "Doctor Faustus"? It was based on Marlowe's work apparently. Could have fooled me. lol!

1473 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:42:46pm

re: #1472 rightymouse

Reading Geothe always made me want to slit my wrists for some reason.

Do you remember that bloody AWFUL movie Burton and Taylor did - "Doctor Faustus"? It was based on Marlowe's work apparently. Could have fooled me. lol!

NO, glad to say I missed it.

1474 realwest  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:42:52pm

re: #1458 jorlineHi jorline - I know I do and have read it but I made a HUGE error in my medications today and am not really able to repond right now.
Sorry about that my friend.

1475 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:42:56pm

re: #1460 doppelganglander

I think the rooster cam is just a little too depressing for me tonight. This week I lost a high school classmate (car accident), found out my husband may be getting laid off at the end of the month, and my mom is going in for surgery tomorrow. So I really prefer the Jon Lovitz aspect of the thread.

Prayer go out to you and your family, doppel.

1476 Attaboid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:42:59pm

Yahoo! Big Un's

1477 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:43:03pm

re: #1447 realwest

Hey y'all - how is everyone tonight?

Allo Realwest...How's things?

1478 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:43:08pm

re: #1464 avanti

I love the way the press picks comments for a catchy title. "Obama wants to kill Osama" just would not work from the preceding paragraph,although it is kinda catchy too.

"My preference obviously would be to capture or kill him. But if we have so tightened the noose that he's in a cave somewhere and can't even communicate with his operatives then we will meet our goal of protecting America."

So . . . basically he agrees with the GWB take on this? The policy that has had everyone so up-at-arms at Bush for not going after Osama?

1479 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:43:25pm

Muslim woman, rabbis to pray at inaugural service

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

And the lamb will lay down with the wolf and yada yada yada

1480 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:43:37pm

re: #1462 Clutch

Sounds like me. My first car was a 74 Mustang II fastback with the crappy V-6. Pulled the six and dropped in a 289 that I pulled from a wrecked (but not that badly) 67 Mustang hardtop. I wish I was smarter then, because I should have fixed the '67 (rear end damage mostly. Parted it out and made what I spent on acquiring it) and canned the Mustang II (sigh...), but I wanted to build something different. The 289 had all the Cobra goodies including a deep-sump oil pan, mild street cam, headers, the whole enchilada. Never did get the Mustang II to run worth a damn, since it would always overheat no matter what i tried, but it was mighty quick when it did run! Traded it in on a loaded 1980 Dodge Mirada, but I always wonder what happened to my old project car...

most valuable lesson off of mine? Know what you are buying. The '79 was the worst Mustang made. Far too light. Project was jinxed from the start. ;-)>

Them Fastbacks were bitchen cars.

1481 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:43:38pm

re: #1447 realwest

Hey y'all - how is everyone tonight?

Can't speak for everyone else, but I'm BOOMING with excitement. Israel is really taking it to Hamas.

Here, see for yourself.

[Link: switch434-01.castup.net...]

1482 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:43:59pm

re: #1460 doppelganglander

Best wishes from this mean SOB, doppel

1483 Clutch  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:44:11pm

re: #1292 buzzsawmonkey

Has anyone ever seen Doric or Ionic leather?

How about poor or middle-class Corinthian leather?

1484 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:44:14pm

re: #1462 Clutch

Sounds like me. My first car was a 74 Mustang II fastback with the crappy V-6. Pulled the six and dropped in a 289 that I pulled from a wrecked (but not that badly) 67 Mustang hardtop. I wish I was smarter then, because I should have fixed the '67 (rear end damage mostly. Parted it out and made what I spent on acquiring it) and canned the Mustang II (sigh...), but I wanted to build something different. The 289 had all the Cobra goodies including a deep-sump oil pan, mild street cam, headers, the whole enchilada. Never did get the Mustang II to run worth a damn, since it would always overheat no matter what i tried, but it was mighty quick when it did run! Traded it in on a loaded 1980 Dodge Mirada, but I always wonder what happened to my old project car...

Had that problem with a '64 Rancho that had a 351 showhorned into her.

/What do you mean that's too much engine for that radiator?

1485 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:44:33pm

re: #1478 reine.de.tout

So . . . basically he agrees with the GWB take on this? The policy that has had everyone so up-at-arms at Bush for not going after Osama?

Is he (Obama) still in favor of invading Pakistan? (Osama seems to have beat him to it, but ... )

1486 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:44:34pm

re: #1460 doppelganglander

I think the rooster cam is just a little too depressing for me tonight. This week I lost a high school classmate (car accident), found out my husband may be getting laid off at the end of the month, and my mom is going in for surgery tomorrow. So I really prefer the Jon Lovitz aspect of the thread.

Thought and prayers for you and your family........

1487 jorline  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:44:56pm

re: #1474 realwest

Hi jorline - I know I do and have read it but I made a HUGE error in my medications today and am not really able to repond right now.
Sorry about that my friend.

Take care and get your meds right.

1488 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:44:58pm

Jeez, if this fighting keeps up, I'm gonna need new speakers.

1489 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:45:22pm

Big guns close to the area of camera 2.

1490 USBeast  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:46:20pm

re: #1460 doppelganglander

I think the rooster cam is just a little too depressing for me tonight. This week I lost a high school classmate (car accident), found out my husband may be getting laid off at the end of the month, and my mom is going in for surgery tomorrow. So I really prefer the Jon Lovitz aspect of the thread.

Whew! I'm sure I speak for all in hoping things get better. My best to your mom and good luck to you and your husband.

1491 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:46:21pm

re: #1484 CyanSnowHawk

Had that problem with a '64 Rancho that had a 351 showhorned into her.

/What do you mean that's too much engine for that radiator?

Shoehorned. PIMF

1492 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:46:31pm

re: #1484 CyanSnowHawk

Had that problem with a '64 Rancho that had a 351 showhorned into her.

/What do you mean that's too much engine for that radiator?

ahh therein lies one of the problems we had with the '79. had to put on a puller electrical fan. use a Chevy air cleaner because there was almost no room left up top. stock brakes wouldn't hold it back either.

1493 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:46:43pm

Sometimes it sounds and looks like the fourth of july, chinese new year, and a freakin' Afghan wedding party all rolled into one. Other times? Looks like a crappy diorama.

1494 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:47:21pm

re: #1473 Guanxi88

re: #1472 rightymouse


NO, glad to say I missed it.

You're lucky and don't bother renting it either. It's really bad.

1495 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:47:29pm

Another 2000 comment thread? We can do it!

1496 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:47:46pm

re: #1478 reine.de.tout

So . . . basically he agrees with the GWB take on this? The policy that has had everyone so up-at-arms at Bush for not going after Osama?

his learning curve is like vertical...he says whatever he needs to...he's an idiot

1497 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:47:50pm

re: #1495 lifeofthemind

Another 2000 comment thread? We can do it!

[Video]

fell just shy of it the other night?

1498 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:48:05pm

re: #1494 rightymouse

You're lucky and don't bother renting it either. It's really bad.

Shame, I've always like Sir Richard. Thought of him as thinking man's Heston.

1499 avanti  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:48:27pm

re: #1478 reine.de.tout

So . . . basically he agrees with the GWB take on this? The policy that has had everyone so up-at-arms at Bush for not going after Osama?


I have no doubt that both GW or Obama would kill Osama in a New York minute if they could find the cave rat. Hopefully, with more resources after a draw down in Iraq, we'll get the bastard. BTW, the success of surge makes it easier for Obama to do the draw down before you ask.

1500 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:48:33pm

The big ones may be 155mm artillery hitting.

HAMAS and Gaza are damn lucky it's single tubes firing and not whole batteries or battalions.

Something that sounded like 40mm Bofors. Five round bursts. Some 20 or 23mm single barrel.

I'm thinking that some of the other terror groups inside Gaza are reinforcing HAMAS.

LAY
WASTE,
R

1501 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:49:03pm

re: #1499 avanti

I have no doubt that both GW or Obama would kill Osama in a New York minute if they could find the cave rat. Hopefully, with more resources after a draw down in Iraq, we'll get the bastard. BTW, the success of surge makes it easier for Obama to do the draw down before you ask.

eh, that old boy assumed room temperature long ago.

1502 doppelganglander  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:49:07pm

re: #1490 USBeast

re: #1475 jorline

re: #1482 Guanxi88

re: #1486 LGoPs

Thanks, all. I know I can always count on the lizardim for a virtual hug. jorline, I haven't forgotten about you, either.

1503 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:49:10pm

U.S., Israel close in on deal to halt arms smuggling from Gaza

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Seems like just more typical bullshit and words to me? But what do I know?

1504 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:49:55pm

re: #1464 avanti

I love the way the press picks comments for a catchy title. "Obama wants to kill Osama" just would not work from the preceding paragraph,although it is kinda catchy too.

Right.

But if we have so tightened the noose that he's in a cave somewhere and can't even communicate with his operatives then we will meet our goal of protecting America."

Apparently bin Laden is still able to communicate with his operatives enough to publish audio tapes worldwide.

/Obama is a one man, security clearance ineligible, walking hazard to U.S. national security

1505 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:50:01pm

re: #1501 Outrider

eh, that old boy assumed room temperature long ago.

Yeah, I always figured he kicked the oxygen habit some time back.

1506 realwest  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:50:06pm

re: #1466 Bubblehead II
and
re: #1468 reine.de.tout
and
re: #1472 rightymouse

Hey hi y'all - if you see my #1474 you'll see that I'm not really functioning all that well right now - took the wrong meds late this afternoon and slept for like 2+1/2 hours and am still barely awake. It's good to see you all,though!
I understand there's been lots of fighting today, does anyone know anything a truce or ceasefire supposedly asked for by Hamas?

1507 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:50:43pm

re: #1497 Outrider

fell just shy of it the other night?

Beat it

Gazacam Reprise
MIDDLE EAST %P% Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:01:00 pm PST

2,040

1508 Archimedes  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:51:01pm

re: #1286 CyanSnowHawk

My favorite Lovitz bit was when he and Jon Lithgow faced off as the Actor and his mentor.

Acting! Brilliant!

1509 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:51:06pm

Ya know, the irony is that this Gazacam has been put up to show the world "the illegal zionist atrocities against the palestinian prisoners" yet I think most viewers cant wait to see a good old fashion ass-whupping to be shown just to show that the Israelis are still kickin ass. Yes, I know there will be innocent victims but if the hamastines want to fight their war using women and children as shields, they only have themselves to blame.

1510 pingjockey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:51:17pm

re: #1503 Nevergiveup
I don't see Iran in on the agreement so arms smuggling will continue unabated.

1511 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:51:34pm

re: #1504 Killian Bundy

Apparently bin Laden is still able to communicate with his operatives enough to publish audio tapes worldwide.

/Obama is a one man, security clearance ineligible, walking hazard to U.S. national security

those tapes can't be real and are spliced. if he were alive he would have been just as vocal as he had been two years ago instead of these weird disjointed tapes spread over many months saying nothing in particular.

1512 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:52:11pm

re: #1478 reine.de.tout

re: #1464 avanti


So . . . basically he agrees with the GWB take on this? The policy that has had everyone so up-at-arms at Bush for not going after Osama?

The "O" probably was shown pictures of Osama at Tora Bora after we blew up da joint and he's decided 'never mind'.

1513 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:52:14pm

I will never be too bored or depressed to see the people who have sworn to butcher me and my family being crushed like the feces they are. Never.

DRIVE
ON,
R

1514 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:52:16pm

re: #1506 realwest

and
re: #1468 reine.de.tout
and
re: #1472 rightymouse

Hey hi y'all - if you see my #1474 you'll see that I'm not really functioning all that well right now - took the wrong meds late this afternoon and slept for like 2+1/2 hours and am still barely awake. It's good to see you all,though!
I understand there's been lots of fighting today, does anyone know anything a truce or ceasefire supposedly asked for by Hamas?

Yes, you can watch the negotiations on the Rooster-cam right now.
HAMAS has agreed that, in exchange for an immediate Israeli withdrawal and ceasefire, they'll keep on shooting off rockets and digging tunnels.

We are just now watching the Israeli response and counter-offer.

1515 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:52:16pm

re: #1492 Outrider

ahh therein lies one of the problems we had with the '79. had to put on a puller electrical fan. use a Chevy air cleaner because there was almost no room left up top. stock brakes wouldn't hold it back either.

Every now and then I think I would like to get a '69 T-bird and trick it out, and then I remember all the "fun" I had with my '67 Camaro, '65 Fairlane, '64 Ranchero, and my little monster truck, an '84 Bronco II. Then I decide that I prefer to have a life outside the garage.

1516 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:52:19pm

re: #1505 Guanxi88

Yeah, I always figured he kicked the oxygen habit some time back.

kicked the oxygen habit haha. I like that.

1517 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:52:37pm

re: #1508 Archimedes

Acting! Brilliant!

Genius!

1518 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:52:39pm

re: #1507 lifeofthemind

Beat it

Gazacam Reprise
MIDDLE EAST %P% Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:01:00 pm PST

2,040

bonus!

1519 pingjockey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:52:52pm

Later on.

1520 avanti  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:52:52pm

re: #1485 jwb7605

Is he (Obama) still in favor of invading Pakistan? (Osama seems to have beat him to it, but ... )

He never said he'd "Invade" Pakistan, just that he'd go after Osama anywhere we had actionable intelligence on and GW would do the same. A chopper for of special forces is not a invasion, just a vermin extermination job. The Pakistanis would bitch in public, but high five us privately.

1521 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:53:06pm

re: #1497 Outrider

fell just shy of it the other night?

It went over 2000 or do you mean you weren't there to do it?

I got tossed around 1350. My hamsters were threatening strike. ;>}

1522 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:53:14pm

re: #1509 A Kiwi Infidel

Ya know, the irony is that this Gazacam has been put up to show the world "the illegal zionist atrocities against the palestinian prisoners" yet I think most viewers cant wait to see a good old fashion ass-whupping to be shown just to show that the Israelis are still kickin ass. Yes, I know there will be innocent victims but if the hamastines want to fight their war using women and children as shields, they only have themselves to blame.

well. That and to play "find the rooster".

1523 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:53:18pm

re: #1506 realwest

re: #1466 Bubblehead II
and
re: #1468 reine.de.tout
and
re: #1472 rightymouse

Hey hi y'all - if you see my #1474 you'll see that I'm not really functioning all that well right now - took the wrong meds late this afternoon and slept for like 2+1/2 hours and am still barely awake. It's good to see you all,though!
I understand there's been lots of fighting today, does anyone know anything a truce or ceasefire supposedly asked for by Hamas?

Dang it! Take care of yourself. Kay?

1524 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:53:58pm

re: #1510 pingjockey

I don't see Iran in on the agreement so arms smuggling will continue unabated.

iran said if hamas went with the Egypt brokered plan, the arms shipments would stop. wonder if anything changed?

1525 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:54:05pm

re: #1511 Outrider

those tapes can't be real and are spliced. if he were alive he would have been just as vocal as he had been two years ago instead of these weird disjointed tapes spread over many months saying nothing in particular.

This reminds me of the "South Park" episode they made with archived sound clips of Isaac Hayes, after he quit the show in a huff over Scientology.

1526 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:54:24pm

re: #1522 Outrider

well. That and to play "find the rooster".


and "topple that minaret"?

1527 legalpad  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:54:26pm

re: #1513 Render

I will never be too bored or depressed to see the people who have sworn to butcher me and my family being crushed like the feces they are. Never.

DRIVE
ON,
R

Yep.

1528 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:54:30pm

re: #1516 Outrider

kicked the oxygen habit haha. I like that.

I got a million of 'em:

won't be down for breakfast
kicked the oxygen habit
failed the freshness test
went to his eternal reward

Oaky, maybe not a million, but there are some pretty witty ways to describe life's final act.

1529 avanti  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:54:36pm

re: #1501 Outrider

eh, that old boy assumed room temperature long ago.

I hope you're right, but the administration just verified today's tape as authentic.

1530 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:54:49pm
1531 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:55:02pm

re: #1522 Outrider

well. That and to play "find the rooster".

Some folks prefer the hiding part of that game.

1532 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:55:07pm

re: #1502 doppelganglander

{dopple} prayers being sent up to you and your family.

1533 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:55:29pm

re: #1515 CyanSnowHawk

Every now and then I think I would like to get a '69 T-bird and trick it out, and then I remember all the "fun" I had with my '67 Camaro, '65 Fairlane, '64 Ranchero, and my little monster truck, an '84 Bronco II. Then I decide that I prefer to have a life outside the garage.

an expensive hobby at best. and if you are happily married you don't even need it to pick up chicks. ;-)>

But your hands stay cleaner.

1534 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:55:31pm

Flare!

1535 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:55:46pm

re: #1528 Guanxi88

I got a million of 'em:

won't be down for breakfast
kicked the oxygen habit
failed the freshness test
went to his eternal reward

Oaky, maybe not a million, but there are some pretty witty ways to describe life's final act.

Oh, here's another, from Kinky Firedman: "Stepped on a rainbow and went to J*sus."

1536 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:55:55pm

re: #1528 Guanxi88

I got a million of 'em:

won't be down for breakfast
kicked the oxygen habit
failed the freshness test
went to his eternal reward

Oaky, maybe not a million, but there are some pretty witty ways to describe life's final act.

I like 'Taking a dirt nap'....

1537 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:56:21pm

re: #1521 x-wing

It went over 2000 or do you mean you weren't there to do it?

I got tossed around 1350. My hamsters were threatening strike. ;>}

i racked out around 1930 or so. give or take a few.

1538 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:56:26pm

re: #1536 LGoPs

I like 'Taking a dirt nap'....

Yes, first heard that one from Howie Carr.

1539 Clutch  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:56:28pm

re: #1492 Outrider

ahh therein lies one of the problems we had with the '79. had to put on a puller electrical fan. use a Chevy air cleaner because there was almost no room left up top. stock brakes wouldn't hold it back either.

Yeah, went the electric fan route on the '74, but i probably should have gone the three-core radiator route and a larger e-fan. But i just got, fed up with sinking money into it and getting little return on my time and $$$ plus I needed something to take the ladies out in on the weekend. The company let me take my vehicle home on the weekend, but a big ol' white stripped-down Chevy van with parts racks in the back was not conducive to making romance. Plus drinking and driving a company vehicle, even a single beer, even no accident, was a terminal offense (good thing the bossman never caught me...). Hence the blue Mirada with the Corinthian leather interior and the leaky T-tops. But, now I was stylin' and I was more successful with the mamacitas...

1540 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:56:52pm

re: #1529 avanti

I hope you're right, but the administration just verified today's tape as authentic.

They verified that it is his voice. The tape was not current, there was not ONE single thing in the tape that was contemporary. Bin Laden could have been speaking about Jihad, any Jihad, any time, not in any relation to current events. Read a transcript.

I've heard authentic speeches by Winston Churchill, on tape, damn, he's dead, long time ago.

1541 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:57:09pm

re: #1530 Dustyvet


Read it, asshole. Someone might just pay him a "drive by"

1542 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:57:27pm

re: #1501 Outrider

eh, that old boy assumed room temperature long ago.

I figure he is far above room temperature now. And his 72 virgins all go by the name "Fury"

1543 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:57:41pm

They didn't ask for one and pretty much refused to desist in their activities.

1544 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:57:47pm

re: #1533 Outrider

an expensive hobby at best. and if you are happily married you don't even need it to pick up chicks. ;-)>

But your hands stay cleaner.

my sisters whole family builds race cars...they all love it...it's a whole lifestyle and a money maker as well

1545 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:58:01pm

re: #1498 Guanxi88

re: #1494 rightymouse


Shame, I've always like Sir Richard. Thought of him as thinking man's Heston.

I love him too. His voice, particularly, was mesmerizing. I went looking just now and found some comments at Amazon.com - the reviews are mixed, but this one is apt:

An adaptation of the Christopher Marlowe masterpiece, Doctor Faustus allows Richard Burton (who also co-directed) to sink his teeth into one of the great theater roles, with loyal wife Elizabeth Taylor along for the ride. Now, there were a few good movies and many follies born of the epic marriage of Burton and Taylor; Faustus is one of their most curious progeny. Alas, Burton's performance is hardly scaled back from a big, bellowing stage turn, while elsewhere the film fails to work up the most rudimentary cinematic life. And Liz? She keeps appearing, wordlessly, as a sexed-up dream temptation for poor Faustus, and finally as Helen of Troy, of "Is this the face that launched a thousand ships?" fame. The only real fun to be had here is wondering whether Burton saw the project as a metaphor for his own career: a man who sold his soul in return for earthly pleasures... as embodied by Elizabeth Taylor. --Robert Horton

1546 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:58:10pm

re: #1530 Dustyvet

Yank his business license.

1547 realwest  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:59:02pm

re: #1502 doppelganglander Hey, just read your comment about how things are going for you and I'm very sorry to hear about the surgery and possible job loss and of course about the loss of your friend. I'm gonna send up prayers for your mom and pray there is no job loss and extend my sympathies to you on the loss of your friend - you take care of YOURSELF, ok?

1548 seekeroftruth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:59:05pm

re: #1520 avanti

He never said he'd "Invade" Pakistan, just that he'd go after Osama anywhere we had actionable intelligence on and GW would do the same. A chopper for of special forces is not a invasion, just a vermin extermination job. The Pakistanis would bitch in public, but high five us privately.

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama issued a pointed warning yesterday to Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, saying that as president he would be prepared to order U.S. troops into that country unilaterally if it failed to act on its own against Islamic extremists.

1549 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:59:05pm

re: #1511 Outrider

re: #1504 Killian Bundy


those tapes can't be real and are spliced. if he were alive he would have been just as vocal as he had been two years ago instead of these weird disjointed tapes spread over many months saying nothing in particular.

Right, he planned ahead for ridiculing Obama by name and other current events.

/pretty spooky [expletive deleted] for someone that's supposedly dead, and the CIA doesn't think he is

1550 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:59:13pm

re: #1546 CyanSnowHawk

Yank his business license.

Revoke his citizenship/residency, and make him walk home.

1551 doppelganglander  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:59:14pm

re: #1520 avanti

That sounds way too much like the way the Nazis described the murder of Jews. Please keep it civil.

1552 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:59:21pm
1553 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:59:26pm

Jets going over...and this thread is now beyond my limit.

CYA on the next thread...

DRIVE
ON,
R

1554 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:59:38pm

re: #1540 Walter L. Newton

They verified that it is his voice. The tape was not current, there was not ONE single thing in the tape that was contemporary. Bin Laden could have been speaking about Jihad, any Jihad, any time, not in any relation to current events. Read a transcript.

I've heard authentic speeches by Winston Churchill, on tape, damn, he's dead, long time ago.

Hmmm, it would be an interesting experiment to put together an audio of Winston Churchill to make it sound contemporary. I'd bet it could be done...

1555 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:59:45pm

re: #1545 rightymouse

Ooh, that was a good, nasty review. And thoughtful.

1556 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 4:59:54pm

re: #1541 A Kiwi Infidel

Read it, asshole. Someone might just pay him a "drive by"

re: #1541 A Kiwi Infidel

Read it, asshole. Someone might just pay him a "drive by"

Tekinkaya's where we serve...nah that's too easy...:)

1557 USBeast  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:00:03pm

re: #1528 Guanxi88

I got a million of 'em:

won't be down for breakfast
kicked the oxygen habit
failed the freshness test
went to his eternal reward

Oaky, maybe not a million, but there are some pretty witty ways to describe life's final act.

Here are the classics.

1558 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:00:08pm

re: #1460 doppelganglander

Sounds like you could use a hug.

{doppelganglander}

1559 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:00:11pm

re: #1529 avanti

I hope you're right, but the administration just verified today's tape as authentic.

as his voice? no doubt. as being his recent voice, doubt it.

1560 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:00:13pm

re: #1541 A Kiwi Infidel

Read it, asshole. Someone might just pay him a "drive by"


Sorry, Dusty, I re-read that post, be assured it is the Turkish barista who is the asshole, not you. It certainly didnt read well.

1561 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:00:29pm

re: #1546 CyanSnowHawk

Yank his business license.

not good...he may have a right to refuse service for any reason...what about that guy in Philly that demanded you order in English?...jus sayin

1562 keyword  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:00:43pm

Anybody know what's up with Ace of Spades? All entries are crossed out.

1563 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:01:23pm

re: #1550 Guanxi88

Revoke his citizenship/residency, and make him walk home.

Walk north from Auckland, till his hat floats...:)

1564 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:02:09pm

re: #1560 A Kiwi Infidel

Sorry, Dusty, I re-read that post, be assured it is the Turkish barista who is the asshole, not you. It certainly didnt read well.

Otays...:)

1565 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:02:13pm

re: #1563 Dustyvet

Walk north from Auckland, till his hat floats...:)

That's the idea.

1566 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:02:51pm

re: #1563 Dustyvet

Walk north from Auckland, till his hat floats...:)

Better still, as he is in Invercargill, make him walk south till his nuts freeze off in a block of ice.

1567 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:02:54pm

re: #1562 keyword

Anybody know what's up with Ace of Spades? All entries are crossed out.

Yes, I suspect he left a cross out tag un-closed, so it crossed out everything from the opening tag down.

1568 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:03:17pm

re: #1566 A Kiwi Infidel

Better still, as he is in Invercargill, make him walk south till his nuts freeze off in a block of ice.

Either way, just so long as he takes a hike.

1569 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:03:28pm

re: #1566 A Kiwi Infidel

Better still, as he is in Invercargill, make him walk south till his nuts freeze off in a block of ice.

Even better...:)

1570 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:03:44pm

re: #1544 albusteve

my sisters whole family builds race cars...they all love it...it's a whole lifestyle and a money maker as well

excellent! I was never that good. But, if I have an open Chiltons, I can do almost all of it. ;-)>

1571 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:04:10pm

re: #1562 keyword

Looks like an HTML error. Kinda funny.

1572 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:04:29pm

re: #1567 Walter L. Newton

1573 realwest  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:04:37pm

re: #1563 Dustyvet
Hi ya Dusty! Hope you're doing well tonight!

1574 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:04:55pm

re: #1561 albusteve

not good...he may have a right to refuse service for any reason...what about that guy in Philly that demanded you order in English?...jus sayin

If he refused to serve based on race or other 'protected minority' status he would have been crucified. The language one speaks doesn't fall into that category yet.

1575 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:05:14pm

re: #1555 Guanxi88

re: #1545 rightymouse

Ooh, that was a good, nasty review. And thoughtful.

It sums it up quite well I think. :)

1576 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:05:32pm

re: #1573 realwest

Hi ya Dusty! Hope you're doing well tonight!

I am, and hope you doing the same.

1577 keyword  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:05:44pm

re: #1567 Walter L. Newton

Makes sense. Thanks!

1578 avanti  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:05:59pm

re: #1368 loppyd

I read somewhere that the US Naval Base in Charleston, SC is going to be the new Gitmo.

I read two prisons that have never had a escape one underground somewhere.

1579 loppyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:06:10pm

re: #1573 realwest

{real}

Hey there handsome....hope you are well.

I'm off to do some couch surfing now.

Latah Tatahs!

1580 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:06:12pm

re: #1572 Killian Bundy

Killian Bundy, next.

1581 USBeast  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:06:15pm

"and suddenly everything went blank" Bugs Bunny.

Looks like Gazacam took a hit.

1582 doppelganglander  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:06:39pm

re: #1547 realwest

Thanks, sweetie. All my best to you, too. Gotta watch those afternoon benders. ;)

1583 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:06:48pm

re: #1578 avanti

I read two prisons that have never had a escape one underground somewhere.

Safest place to put a dangerous crook is in a grave. anything less, and you can never be sure.

1584 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:07:18pm

re: #1578 avanti

I read two prisons that have never had a escape one underground somewhere.

does bringing these prisoners into the USA mean they will be falling under US criminal law with full constitutional rights?

1585 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:07:59pm

re: #1580 Walter L. Newton

Killian Bundy, next.

/it's not like he won an award for HTML competence

1586 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:08:02pm

re: #1570 Outrider

excellent! I was never that good. But, if I have an open Chiltons, I can do almost all of it. ;-)>

they have quite the amateur operation....youngest son races a 70 Maverick that runs in the high 10s...he's a beast...his older brother keeps all the records, deals with trailoring and accomodations etc...dad has his two cool street rods and mom just runs around feeding them and the rest...they have a coupla shops...pretty cool...lots of travel and videos and good times

1587 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:08:06pm

re: #1581 USBeast

"and suddenly everything went blank" Bugs Bunny.

Looks like Gazacam took a hit.

mine is still good.

1588 realwest  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:08:06pm

re: #1548 seekeroftruth
Gee, must be the drugs but that sure reads to me as if Obama intended to send US forces into Pakistan!

1589 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:08:09pm

re: #1584 Outrider

does bringing these prisoners into the USA mean they will be falling under US criminal law with full constitutional rights?

Yeah, I think that's a given.

1590 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:08:21pm

re: #1584 Outrider

does bringing these prisoners into the USA mean they will be falling under US criminal law with full constitutional rights?

As far as the ACLU is concerned, YES.

1591 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:08:29pm

re: #1584 Outrider

does bringing these prisoners into the USA mean they will be falling under US criminal law with full constitutional rights?

Did German POWs in WWII? Or does the whole unlawful combatant thing confuse all the determinations on that?

1592 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:09:15pm

re: #1581 USBeast

"and suddenly everything went blank" Bugs Bunny.

Looks like Gazacam took a hit.

Reload the site page. It shuts off when the counter in the lower right of the frame hits 60:00. It's best to refresh before it gets near there so you don't lose your
spot on the network.

1593 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:09:18pm

I'm not hearing many drones tonight.

1594 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:09:54pm

re: #1590 Spiny Norman

As far as the ACLU is concerned, YES.

Yeah, these SOB's treat our constitution like it's a charter for a freakin' potlatch/suicide party

1595 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:09:57pm

re: #1584 Outrider

does bringing these prisoners into the USA mean they will be falling under US criminal law with full constitutional rights?

And since they probably don't have a source of income, do they get taxpayer funded lawyers appointed for them..........
*shaking head*

1596 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:10:00pm
1597 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:10:12pm

NCIS is on and the GazaCam is back up. Decisions, decisions....... NCIS wins. Later all. Will try to check back in later when the graveyard crew shows up.

L8R

1598 doppelganglander  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:10:15pm

re: #1591 CyanSnowHawk

Did German POWs in WWII? Or does the whole unlawful combatant thing confuse all the determinations on that?

There's no telling anymore. It's not like judges actually enforce the law or anything.

1599 USBeast  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:10:15pm

re: #1587 Outrider

mine is still good.

Okay, I hit play and it came back up. My browser must have gotten bored.

1600 realwest  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:10:33pm

re: #1576 Dustyvet
Well if y'all see my #1474 - you'll see I'm not doing too well right now. In fact you could say I'm doing fairly poorly, I'm afraid.

1601 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:10:49pm

re: #1574 CyanSnowHawk

If he refused to serve based on race or other 'protected minority' status he would have been crucified. The language one speaks doesn't fall into that category yet.

dont know...I wouldnt want to be him but maybe he has a legal out...that's all I'm saying...he's already taken the low road and it would be interesting to follow the story and see what come of it...

1602 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:10:52pm

re: #1590 Spiny Norman

As far as the ACLU is concerned, YES.

Fuck the ACLU.

1603 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:11:05pm

re: #1591 CyanSnowHawk

Did German POWs in WWII? Or does the whole unlawful combatant thing confuse all the determinations on that?

Yes, it does indeed. They are, by their own volition, completely outside the law.

OTOH, with today's "make it up as we go along" Federal courts and "human rights advocates", I truly believe the German POWs of WWII would have had full Constitutional rights.

1604 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:11:14pm

re: #1586 albusteve

they have quite the amateur operation....youngest son races a 70 Maverick that runs in the high 10s...he's a beast...his older brother keeps all the records, deals with trailoring and accomodations etc...dad has his two cool street rods and mom just runs around feeding them and the rest...they have a coupla shops...pretty cool...lots of travel and videos and good times

full family operation!

Maverick eh? I used to own a puke green 72 Maverick with the straight four. I could go from 0 to 60 in 90 seconds easy. lol

1605 keyword  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:11:34pm

re: #1585 Killian Bundy

It appears to be fixed. I've cached the source code so he can't deny it, and will do the 'Dan Rather fake font' trick on it to bury his ass. You might as well kiss the 2009 Award goodbye, Ace!


/kidding

1606 tradewind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:11:35pm

re: #1578 avanti

Here in my county we have a ' penal farm' that used to actually be one... **it produced all its own food and grew crops, etc, as well as providing labor for the county. Specialty was a sophisticated hog farm that was well known for its tasty pork.
Oughta be just about right for some Gitmo repatriates.
**Now, of course, that is considered inhumane punishment, so the cons just spend their time lifting weights and chatting on the internet until they're paroled.

1607 realwest  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:11:35pm

Well y'all I gotta go now. Hope you have a great evening and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

1608 avanti  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:11:44pm

re: #1584 Outrider

does bringing these prisoners into the USA mean they will be falling under US criminal law with full constitutional rights?

Not a US ctizens rights, but the courts already gave them some very basic rights like Habeas Corpus.

1609 seekeroftruth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:11:58pm

re: #1588 realwest

Gee, must be the drugs but that sure reads to me as if Obama intended to send US forces into Pakistan!

Yup. That's what he was saying during the campaign.
I would imagine that he has rethought this now that he would catch the fall out of this action. At least I hope so.....

1610 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:11:58pm

re: #1589 Guanxi88

Yeah, I think that's a given.

that is just wrong. military tribunal. get er done.

1611 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:12:01pm

re: #1600 realwest

Well if y'all see my #1474 - you'll see I'm not doing too well right now. In fact you could say I'm doing fairly poorly, I'm afraid.

Lay down and rest awhile.......should you call the doctor?

1612 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:12:03pm

re: #1586 albusteve

they have quite the amateur operation....youngest son races a 70 Maverick that runs in the high 10s...he's a beast...his older brother keeps all the records, deals with trailoring and accomodations etc...dad has his two cool street rods and mom just runs around feeding them and the rest...they have a coupla shops...pretty cool...lots of travel and videos and good times

Oh, I know this story. I'll bet the older brother has a wreck and goes undercover after he recovers in order to expose the corruption in the racing league.
/

1613 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:12:15pm

re: #1583 Guanxi88

Safest place to put a dangerous crook is in a grave. anything less, and you can never be sure.

We got the "Bird man of Alcatraz" Robert Stroud buried in Metropolis, Illinois. I'd guess he's a registered Illinois voter.

1614 jaunte  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:12:26pm

re: #1604 Outrider

Now that's puke green.
Image: john_maltinsky_72_maverick.jpg

1615 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:13:11pm

re: #1591 CyanSnowHawk

Did German POWs in WWII? Or does the whole unlawful combatant thing confuse all the determinations on that?

if i recall bringing those Germans here from Germany was against international law back then.

But silly me, I always read the law as combatants in civilian clothes could be shot out of hand.

1616 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:13:12pm

re: #1485 jwb7605

Is he (Obama) still in favor of invading Pakistan? (Osama seems to have beat him to it, but ... )

I think Obama was so clueless during the campaign. Might have had something to do with the fact that he was late for or missed most of his meetings? I think he had not one clue what he was talking about, just saying whatever seemed like a good idea to say at the moment.

Anyhow - he has now had some briefings as to the international situation - I would suspect now that he knows what he is actually facing, what sorts of things he will have to make decisions on, he is scared shitless.

1617 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:13:18pm

re: #1608 avanti

Not a US ctizens rights, but the courts already gave them some very basic rights like Habeas Corpus.

Abraham Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus using his Presidential powers.

1618 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:13:19pm

re: #1600 realwest

re: #1576 Dustyvet
Well if y'all see my #1474 - you'll see I'm not doing too well right now. In fact you could say I'm doing fairly poorly, I'm afraid.

Honey, do you have someone near you who could organize your meds so you don't do this again?

1619 seekeroftruth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:13:21pm

re: #1600 realwest

Well if y'all see my #1474 - you'll see I'm not doing too well right now. In fact you could say I'm doing fairly poorly, I'm afraid.

Realwest - I hope you feel better soon! I enjoy your posts.

1620 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:14:14pm

re: #1600 realwest

Well if y'all see my #1474 - you'll see I'm not doing too well right now. In fact you could say I'm doing fairly poorly, I'm afraid.

Very sorry my friend, your still on my prayer list as well MS. C's.

1621 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:14:16pm

re: #1594 Guanxi88

Yeah, these SOB's treat our constitution like it's a charter for a freakin' potlatch/suicide party

Of course they do. Their intent, from the moment the group was founded, was to use our own legal system to bring down the whole system. The ACLU has been a Marxist front group from the very beginning.

1622 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:14:18pm

re: #1610 Outrider

that is just wrong. military tribunal. get er done.

Look, to my mind, these guys are worth only

the cost of a round of ammunition
minus
any valuable intel we can persuade them to provide.

Otherwise? They're a waste of skin and living slurs on the human race.

1623 Russkilitlover  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:14:20pm

OT on an open thread, if possible.......

I GOT A JOB! Have been looking since being laid off in August. I feel so HUMAN again.

1624 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:14:20pm

re: #1601 albusteve

dont know...I wouldnt want to be him but maybe he has a legal out...that's all I'm saying...he's already taken the low road and it would be interesting to follow the story and see what come of it...

I don't know what they can do either. It was New Zealand, right?

1625 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:14:34pm

re: #1595 LGoPs

And since they probably don't have a source of income, do they get taxpayer funded lawyers appointed for them..........
*shaking head*

I'm sure there are waiting lists of lawyers just dying for the chance to defend them

1626 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:15:23pm

re: #1623 Russkilitlover

OT on an open thread, if possible.......

I GOT A JOB! Have been looking since being laid off in August. I feel so HUMAN again.

CONGRATS!

1627 kcladderman  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:15:26pm

re: #1501 Outrider

eh, that old boy assumed room temperature long ago.

I tend to agree.

1628 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:15:45pm

re: #1621 Spiny Norman

The ACLU has been a Marxist front group from the very beginning.

Really? I heard it was the other way around.

1629 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:15:45pm

Realwest, Take care. I pray you feel better.
{Realwest}

1630 seekeroftruth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:16:00pm

re: #1623 Russkilitlover

OT on an open thread, if possible.......

I GOT A JOB! Have been looking since being laid off in August. I feel so HUMAN again.

Congratulations!

1631 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:16:35pm

Notice from the the Department of Redundancy Department:

This should read "...use our own legal system to bring down the whole country."

1632 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:16:44pm

re: #1623 Russkilitlover

OT on an open thread, if possible.......

I GOT A JOB! Have been looking since being laid off in August. I feel so HUMAN again.

Well, here's a little congratulatory music:

1633 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:16:46pm

re: #1606 tradewind

Here in my county we have a ' penal farm' that used to actually be one... **it produced all its own food and grew crops, etc, as well as providing labor for the county. Specialty was a sophisticated hog farm that was well known for its tasty pork.
Oughta be just about right for some Gitmo repatriates.
**Now, of course, that is considered inhumane punishment, so the cons just spend their time lifting weights and chatting on the internet until they're paroled.

Georgia still raises it's own crops, livestock, chickens, and dairy for prisoner consumption. prisoners do the work.

1634 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:16:49pm
1635 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:16:51pm

re: #1623 Russkilitlover

OT on an open thread, if possible.......

I GOT A JOB! Have been looking since being laid off in August. I feel so HUMAN again.

Well Done!

1636 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:16:59pm

re: #1616 reine.de.tout

I think Obama was so clueless during the campaign. Might have had something to do with the fact that he was late for or missed most of his meetings? I think he had not one clue what he was talking about, just saying whatever seemed like a good idea to say at the moment.

Anyhow - he has now had some briefings as to the international situation - I would suspect now that he knows what he is actually facing, what sorts of things he will have to make decisions on, he is scared shitless.

I always thought he was just stupid during the primaries, and now I think he is scared stupid.

That rhetoric during the primaries was serious bullshit. I hope.

I can also dig up video outlining a promise he made to gut the military.

1637 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:17:11pm

re: #1623 Russkilitlover

OT on an open thread, if possible.......

I GOT A JOB! Have been looking since being laid off in August. I feel so HUMAN again.

Mazal tov to you! I've kind of given up on returning to full time work since my last contract 2 years ago. I work(ed) in the automotive field, ya know.

1638 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:17:15pm

re: #1604 Outrider

full family operation!

Maverick eh? I used to own a puke green 72 Maverick with the straight four. I could go from 0 to 60 in 90 seconds easy. lol

the kid was taking out seasoned vets at the track at 15yrs old! in a 68 Camero SS...he still it and it's worth a small fortune right there....he is really into detail so his Maverick is like a show car...fire engine red...no chrome, no decals...none of that stuff....runs a worked over 351 Cleveland in it....he's almost unstoppable the last season or so...he's made quite a rep for 30yrs old

1639 tradewind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:17:16pm

re: #1616 reine.de.tout
The more I see/read of Obama, the more I tend to believe reports that said Buffet and Rubin sat him down last year and said ' we'll support you if you promise to focus only on domestic/economic issues and leave the rest of the world to the Clintons'.

1640 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:17:42pm

re: #1623 Russkilitlover

OT on an open thread, if possible.......

I GOT A JOB! Have been looking since being laid off in August. I feel so HUMAN again.

:D

1641 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:17:42pm

re: #1632 Guanxi88

Well, here's a little congratulatory music:


[Video]

Courtesy of David Byrne.

1642 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:18:13pm

re: #1639 tradewind

The more I see/read of Obama, the more I tend to believe reports that said Buffet and Rubin sat him down last year and said ' we'll support you if you promise to focus only on domestic/economic issues and leave the rest of the world to the Clintons'.

Ah , gawwwwddd.

::puke::

1643 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:18:23pm

re: #1589 Guanxi88

re: #1584 Outrider


Yeah, I think that's a given.


Maybe they could all be sent to Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Arizona. Methinks he'd turn them around in no time.

1644 tradewind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:18:26pm

re: #1633 Outrider

Seriously? That's cool.... I wonder why Tennessee has wussed out and they haven't.....

1645 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:18:35pm

re: #1608 avanti

Not a US ctizens rights, but the courts already gave them some very basic rights like Habeas Corpus.

unless they were US citizens to start with, I see no reason they should have any at all. Maybe at least as many as they have in their country of origin.

1646 tradewind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:19:01pm

re: #1642 Spiny Norman

I wasn't joking....
But I second the gag reflex.

1647 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:19:07pm

re: #1623 Russkilitlover

OT on an open thread, if possible.......

I GOT A JOB! Have been looking since being laid off in August. I feel so HUMAN again.

Doing what? In your profession, I hope?
Congratulations!

... me next! me next!

1648 Clutch  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:19:08pm

re: #1623 Russkilitlover

OT on an open thread, if possible.......

I GOT A JOB! Have been looking since being laid off in August. I feel so HUMAN again.

Allright! Pop a bottle of bubbly for your good fortune! Congratulations!

1649 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:19:18pm

re: #1624 CyanSnowHawk

I don't know what they can do either. It was New Zealand, right?

yes...I like these stories because it's the front line and ordinary people involved...

1650 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:20:20pm

re: #1614 jaunte

Now that's puke green.
[Link: www.maverickcometclub.org...]

damn if that don't look like it. same boring black interior. the only extra mine had was an AM radio.

1651 avanti  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:20:28pm

re: #1617 Alouette

Abraham Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus using his Presidential powers.

Bush could have tried it too, but I think the Supreme Court would strike it down. It's the most basic right, the right to ask for proof of a offense.

1652 USBeast  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:20:31pm

re: #1623 Russkilitlover

OT on an open thread, if possible.......

I GOT A JOB! Have been looking since being laid off in August. I feel so HUMAN again.

Hooray, hallelujah and hot damn! I know the feeling. Now cool your jets and make a plan.

1653 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:21:02pm

re: #1625 Outrider

I'm sure there are waiting lists of lawyers just dying for the chance to defend them

No shit. I'll bet they'd see it as their 'patriotic' duty......

1654 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:21:04pm

re: #1649 albusteve

yes...I like these stories because it's the front line and ordinary people involved...


and also for the fact that antisemitism can stretch all the way to the far south pacific. We are not immune from here, sadly.

1655 Wishing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:21:14pm

re: #1474 realwest

Man o man, RW! You just cant let this kinda thing happen!
Is there any way we can help?

1656 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:21:19pm

re: #1623 Russkilitlover

OT on an open thread, if possible.......

I GOT A JOB! Have been looking since being laid off in August. I feel so HUMAN again.

Congrats.

1657 x-wing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:21:22pm

re: #1623 Russkilitlover

OT on an open thread, if possible.......

I GOT A JOB! Have been looking since being laid off in August. I feel so HUMAN again.

What does "the man" have you doing ;>}

1658 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:21:45pm
1659 Stonemason  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:21:48pm

re: #1574 CyanSnowHawk

His employees speak English, he has every right to have that sign. How can one be sure of good service if one can not understand the customer?
The other guy was sure to point out that he confirmed Israeli connection before refusing service, did not refuse on language alone.

Also, one can speak any language at Geno's, Joey just wants the order in English.

1660 kcladderman  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:21:49pm

re: #1592 notutopia

Reload the site page. It shuts off when the counter in the lower right of the frame hits 60:00. It's best to refresh before it gets near there so you don't lose your
spot on the network.

Mines been on for 2 hours plus.

1661 Wishing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:22:12pm

re: #1623 Russkilitlover

OT on an open thread, if possible.......

I GOT A JOB! Have been looking since being laid off in August. I feel so HUMAN again.

Way to go! Happy Dancing with you!

1662 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:22:14pm

re: #1634 buzzsawmonkey

Worth noting that there are no provisions for imprisonment as punishment in the Torah. Death, yes; financial restitution (which might involve the malefactor being sold for a period of servitude), yes; imprisonment, no. Also, there are no provisions for the mutilations (e.g., hand lopping for theft) which are sanctioned by the Koran.

but they are on our turf now. and we got provisions, if we would use them

1663 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:22:41pm

I'm still black screened BTW, even tho I've tried to reload twice. Tells me I'm all good but all I get is just a shot up abdulls black asshole I'm afraid.

1664 BBev  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:23:05pm

re: #1623 Russkilitlover

OT on an open thread, if possible.......

I GOT A JOB! Have been looking since being laid off in August. I feel so HUMAN again.

Fantastic, what are you doing?

1665 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:23:10pm

re: #1639 tradewind

The more I see/read of Obama, the more I tend to believe reports that said Buffet and Rubin sat him down last year and said ' we'll support you if you promise to focus only on domestic/economic issues and leave the rest of the world to the Clintons'.

I will never over estimate BO...he is a fraud plain and simple...I think he can place this country in extreme danger...he and his droolers...what a way to serve eh?

1666 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:23:18pm

re: #1638 albusteve

the kid was taking out seasoned vets at the track at 15yrs old! in a 68 Camero SS...he still it and it's worth a small fortune right there....he is really into detail so his Maverick is like a show car...fire engine red...no chrome, no decals...none of that stuff....runs a worked over 351 Cleveland in it....he's almost unstoppable the last season or so...he's made quite a rep for 30yrs old

he put a 351c in there? wow. bet it goes like a raped ape.

1667 tradewind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:23:21pm

re: #1651 avanti

You don't even have to go that far back.....
Ask anyone of Japanese-American descent whose relatives were here and working during WWII......

1668 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:23:24pm

re: #1654 A Kiwi Infidel

and also for the fact that antisemitism can stretch all the way to the far south pacific. We are not immune from here, sadly.

I don't think it's anti-semitism that is the problem in this case; I think it's the vector of the disease you gotta worry about.

See, you can fight malaria with quinine, or you can make sure there aren't mosquitoes around, by draining swamps, getting rid of standing water, and, in general, not creating mosquito habitat.

1669 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:23:54pm

re: #1644 tradewind

Seriously? That's cool.... I wonder why Tennessee has wussed out and they haven't.....

Sen Gore maybe? lol

1670 brookly red  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:24:10pm

re: #1639 tradewind

The more I see/read of Obama, the more I tend to believe reports that said Buffet and Rubin sat him down last year and said ' we'll support you if you promise to focus only on domestic/economic issues and leave the rest of the world to the Clintons'.

she seems to be on board with that...

1671 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:24:21pm

re: #1634 buzzsawmonkey

Worth noting that there are no provisions for imprisonment as punishment in the Torah. Death, yes; financial restitution (which might involve the malefactor being sold for a period of servitude), yes; imprisonment, no. Also, there are no provisions for the mutilations (e.g., hand lopping for theft) which are sanctioned by the Koran.

A thief who lacked the ability to repay the amount of his theft could be sold into slavery by the Beit Din until he worked off the restitution, so that would be the equivalent of imprisonment in Torah law.

1672 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:24:35pm

re: #1660 kcladderman

Mines been on for 2 hours plus.

I'm on
[Link: switch434-01.castup.net...]
1 hour and it goes black screen on me.

1673 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:24:38pm

re: #1659 Stonemason

His employees speak English, he has every right to have that sign. How can one be sure of good service if one can not understand the customer?
The other guy was sure to point out that he confirmed Israeli connection before refusing service, did not refuse on language alone.

Also, one can speak any language at Geno's, Joey just wants the order in English.

I fully agree with Joey. It's an important thing to know and use English in America. Knowing the lingua franca of where you are at helps in so many ways.

1674 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:24:49pm

re: #1654 A Kiwi Infidel

and also for the fact that antisemitism can stretch all the way to the far south pacific. We are not immune from here, sadly.

it's a disease really...a bending of history and truth...it will go anywhere there are people with access to the MSM

1675 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:24:51pm

Whoa... longest. thread. evah!

What's the record?

1676 tradewind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:25:45pm

re: #1665 albusteve

I believe he's a really brilliant politician. Unfortunately, we have absolutely no way of knowing what kind of statesman or protector/defender of the US constitution and way of life he will be. It's a total crapshoot.
I will certainly hope and pray for the best.

1677 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:25:52pm

re: #1668 Guanxi88

I don't think it's anti-semitism that is the problem in this case; I think it's the vector of the disease you gotta worry about.

See, you can fight malaria with quinine, or you can make sure there aren't mosquitoes around, by draining swamps, getting rid of standing water, and, in general, not creating mosquito habitat.


Problem is, it spreads. Like all disease, others get infected. Google "John Minto", "Keith Locke" and you will see what I mean.

1678 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:26:01pm

re: #1675 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Whoa... longest. thread. evah!

What's the record?


And the hamsters are hanging tough!

1679 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:26:02pm

re: #1623 Russkilitlover

OT on an open thread, if possible.......

I GOT A JOB! Have been looking since being laid off in August. I feel so HUMAN again.


YAYYYYYYYYYYY!

1680 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:26:13pm

re: #1675 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Whoa... longest. thread. evah!

What's the record?

not even close...not EVEN

1681 Age Of Freedom  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:26:17pm

IDF diverts missiles shot at Hamas terrorists that flee into civilian areas, in order to avoid killing innocent folks.

This is an incredibly good video, which of course, the media will ignore and bury:

1682 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:26:54pm

re: #1680 albusteve

not even close...not EVEN

Seriously? Wow.

1683 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:26:58pm

re: #1675 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Whoa... longest. thread. evah!

What's the record?

I don't know, but Monday's GazaCam thread went to 2040

1684 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:27:04pm

re: #1677 A Kiwi Infidel

Problem is, it spreads. Like all disease, others get infected. Google "John Minto", "Keith Locke" and you will see what I mean.

Oh, no denying that. Still, you keeps the 'skeeters down. In the case in question, it was a mosquito.

1685 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:27:05pm

re: #1675 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Whoa... longest. thread. evah!

What's the record?

I think there was a thread with over 5,000 comments.

1686 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:27:31pm

re: #1676 tradewind

I believe he's a really brilliant politician. Unfortunately, we have absolutely no way of knowing what kind of statesman or protector/defender of the US constitution and way of life he will be. It's a total crapshoot.
I will certainly hope and pray for the best.

I'm safe personally from the feds but I gave up alot...I hate the feds

1687 Wishing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:27:46pm

re: #1660 kcladderman

Mines been on for 2 hours plus.

I can't get the Gaza-cam to load either. Bummer.

1688 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:27:55pm
1689 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:28:01pm

re: #1685 Alouette

I think there was a thread with over 5,000 comments.

Before Charles fed his hamsters steroids?
That must have been fun.

1690 tradewind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:28:05pm

re: #1669 Outrider
Probably. The county demographics are undoubtedly responsible as well, since we're one of only two counties that supported his WH bid. The state as a whole has much more sense.

1691 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:29:13pm

Hey! Somebody get GAZA on the line and tell them to point the Rooster cam at the action, already.

1692 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:29:15pm

re: #1685 Alouette

I think there was a thread with over 5,000 comments.

yes...at least...I was on one that was well over 4k a coupla years ago...in fact I posted number 4k if I recall...it's all in the archives

1693 avanti  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:29:38pm

re: #1667 tradewind

You don't even have to go that far back.....
Ask anyone of Japanese-American descent whose relatives were here and working during WWII......

Were they imprisoned for the entire war or did the courts step in before the end ?

1694 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:29:38pm

re: #1673 CyanSnowHawk

I fully agree with Joey. It's an important thing to know and use English in America. Knowing the lingua franca of where you are at helps in so many ways.

And it's also showing basic courtesy to your adopted country. Drives me nuts when people insist that we accomodate them and learn their language, here in America.....

1695 USBeast  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:30:11pm

re: #1687 Wishing

I can't get the Gaza-cam to load either. Bummer.

It might just be possible that the powers that be behind Gazacam have discovered...never mind. It just came back up.

1696 tradewind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:30:22pm

re: #1686 albusteve

/Huh/?

1697 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:30:57pm
1698 tradewind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:31:03pm

re: #1693 avanti

I wasn't around....
:)
I'll have to google it up.

1699 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:31:37pm

re: #1608 avanti

Not a US ctizens rights, but the courts already gave them some very basic rights like Habeas Corpus.

They'll be tried in U.S. Federal courts, take it to the bank, where most of the evidence will be inadmissible because of the way it was obtained or for national security reasons. It's already being contemplated that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, facing death before a military tribunal for 9/11, won't be tried for that once he hits U.S. soil because the evidence was obtained by "torture" (waterboarding).

/instead, he's going to be tried on existing criminal charges for his role in the 1993 WTC bombing

1700 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:31:54pm
1701 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:31:58pm

re: #1697 buzzsawmonkey

Yes. But that's not simply consigning someone to a dungeon, is it? It has three social advantages: restitution to the wronged; a saving on the public expenditure for the construction and maintenance of prisons; and a potentially rehabilitative punishment for the wrongdoer.

That's why I say, for the dangerous ones, the grave, nothing less.

1702 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:32:40pm

re: #1696 tradewind

/Huh/?

not entirely obviously...they can find me and hassle me if they want...they have before...I'n not worth much to them anymore...they have bigger fish to fry...I hope....maybe someday they will run me down...I dunno

1703 BBev  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:33:12pm

re: #1687 Wishing

I can't get the Gaza-cam to load either. Bummer.

I have had it on for over 24 hours

1704 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:33:28pm

re: #1639 tradewind

The more I see/read of Obama, the more I tend to believe reports that said Buffet and Rubin sat him down last year and said ' we'll support you if you promise to focus only on domestic/economic issues and leave the rest of the world to the Clintons'.

Oh. First time I've heard this. Interesting.

1705 Wishing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:33:52pm

re: #1671 Alouette

A thief who lacked the ability to repay the amount of his theft could be sold into slavery by the Beit Din until he worked off the restitution, so that would be the equivalent of imprisonment in Torah law.

But please note: the indentured *slave* had to be treated in a particular way: no beatings, no missed meals, etc.

1706 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:33:59pm

Hallelujah!
new thread.

1707 tradewind  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:34:03pm

re: #1702 albusteve

Ohhhhhkayyyy.

1708 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:35:04pm

re: #1703 BBev

I have had it on for over 24 hours

It played all day in our store.

1709 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:35:06pm

re: #1675 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Whoa... longest. thread. evah!

What's the record?

/5145

1710 BBev  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:35:44pm

re: #1708 Silhouette

It played all day in our store.

cool

1711 Outrider  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:37:02pm

re: #1699 Killian Bundy

They'll be tried in U.S. Federal courts, take it to the bank, where most of the evidence will be inadmissible because of the way it was obtained or for national security reasons. It's already being contemplated that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, facing death before a military tribunal for 9/11, won't be tried for that once he hits U.S. soil because the evidence was obtained by "torture" (waterboarding).

/instead, he's going to be tried on existing criminal charges for his role in the 1993 WTC bombing

don't know why there is even a question. I'm sure they will walk if they are tried in the US in open court. don't know if the government is willing to reveal many secrets to ensure their continued imprisonment or not.

1712 avanti  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:37:33pm

re: #1676 tradewind

I believe he's a really brilliant politician. Unfortunately, we have absolutely no way of knowing what kind of statesman or protector/defender of the US constitution and way of life he will be. It's a total crapshoot.
I will certainly hope and pray for the best.

It is a crap shoot. Brilliant politicians can get things done, it's a open question as to good or bad things. I liked that he kept Gates, liked it more when Hillary and Gates agreed to work together. Defense and state are often at odds, but the jury is still out.

1713 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:38:08pm

Live cam back, Abdull must have got off the camera and wiped up afterwards, which would be a miracle in itself.

1714 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:38:12pm

re: #1709 Killian Bundy

/5145

what a monster eh?...before my time

1715 avanti  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:38:43pm

re: #1698 tradewind

I was around, but learning how to walk and stuff.

1716 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:41:33pm

re: #1711 Outrider

don't know why there is even a question. I'm sure they will walk if they are tried in the US in open court. don't know if the government is willing to reveal many secrets to ensure their continued imprisonment or not.

And Obama will surely eliminate the rendition programs and foreign terrorist wiretaps.

/will be swinging in wildly the dark waiting for the inevitable hammer to come down on our heads

1717 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:42:24pm

Time to leave, off to the CNN pallywood movies.

1718 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:43:18pm

re: #1685 Alouette

I think there was a thread with over 5,000 comments.

Sweet mother of smoking hamsters!

Bet that whole crew had to be put to pasture after that one.

1719 Wishing  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:43:50pm

re: #1703 BBev

I have had it on for over 24 hours

I had to change which link I am viewing...new one works fine, ty!

1720 spirochete  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:44:53pm

re: #699 3 wood

Apple shares halted; financial stocks mixed


Best wishes Steve, but I don't think this is going to end well for you.

This means the biopsies came in and they aen't good. "protein deficiency" can mean several things and they aren't good.

1721 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:47:21pm

re: #1709 Killian Bundy

/5145

What on earth caused a Thursday afternoon open thread to blow up like that?

/I'll admit I'm too much of a wimp to wade through it to find out.

1722 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:50:44pm

re: #1703 BBev

Hey BBev, working on a NE lizard meet, e- mail me if you want in!

1723 BBev  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 5:53:11pm

re: #1722 CapeCoddah

Hey BBev, working on a NE lizard meet, e- mail me if you want in!

I just saw that from up thread, hell ya!

1724 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 6:18:02pm

re: #1382 USBeast

You have a funny way of leaving.

Jon Lovitz.

1725 angrymimi  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 6:53:15pm

and there he is! AWESOME!

1726 NuDreamer  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 6:58:32pm

re: #811 wrenchwench

Thanks wrenchwench!


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