PJTV: LGF on Media Bankruptcies
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Here I am via webcam at PJTV with Joe Hicks, discussing the recent rash of Chapter 11 filings by mainstream newspaper owners: Media 1.0 Deathwatch - Video.
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saberry0530 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:02:31am |
THe more failures the closer we get to the truth!
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DistantThunder Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:03:15am |
Newspapers cannot defend against the obvious fact that they are NOT a green business.
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:03:24am |
You’re a star. Now don’t get cocky, we like you as your nice humble self.
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:05:32am |
re: #3 DistantThunder
Newspapers cannot defend against the obvious fact that they are NOT a green business.
No, they are a red business. As in “in the red”.
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Maximu§ Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:05:49am |
Act III of this drama will be when the government bails out the newspapers and they all become Pravda.
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Crimsonfisted Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:06:15am |
re: #6 Ford_Prefect
No, they are a red business. As in “in the red”.
With sickles and hammers?
/quoting from the previous thread
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:06:28am |
How long before Barry, Nan and Harry step in with the Media Relief Act?
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Diamond Bullet Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:06:39am |
What is an appropriate form of celebration when the NY Times finally rolls over and dies? I can’t even use it as fish wrap anymore because it spoils the flavor. If anyone has any good ideas as to how to commemorate the end of the NY Times deathwatch I’d love to hear them.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:06:42am |
Well, now the MSM’s financial standing is coming to match their moral standing.
That’s it for me. I’ve got to go to work.
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lawhawk Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:07:18am |
re: #3 DistantThunder
Newspapers cannot defend against the obvious fact that they are NOT a green business.
Not true. They constantly recycle the same canards and memes. They also provide excellent composting materials. /
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Crimsonfisted Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:08:34am |
re: #10 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
How long before Barry, Nan and Harry step in with the Media Relief Act?
I would LOVE to get some relief FROM the media, will that work?
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pat Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:08:37am |
Gee, i wold not through a life ring to any of those papers. spit.
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:08:55am |
So what do we have planned for when NYT declares bankruptcy?
Just A Guy over at Dear President Obama has a great name for Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner.
Turbo Tax Timmy. I like it.
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vxbush Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:09:06am |
re: #3 DistantThunder
Newspapers cannot defend against the obvious fact that they are NOT a green business.
That’s actually a very interesting idea, given the love affair that many libs have with sustainable agriculture and other issues. I have no problem with such green initiatives as long as they are reasonable and do not put a huge burden on people. But newspapers are definitely a problem.
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Crimsonfisted Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:09:44am |
re: #3 DistantThunder
Newspapers cannot defend against the obvious fact that they are NOT a green business.
I need the newspapers to light in our chimney starter. What would I use?
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:11:15am |
re: #7 Maximu§
Act III of this drama will be when the government bails out the newspapers and they all become Pravda.
part of that has already occurred…. except for the ones that are Izvestia.
/white smoke
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:11:32am |
re: #19 Crimsonfisted
I need the newspapers to light in our chimney starter. What would I use?
junk mail?
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jorline Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:11:39am |
The vast majority of newspapers were only good for toilet paper…now they’re not worth that.
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debutaunt Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:12:19am |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:12:31am |
OT: I know it’s HuffPo but…..
Red States Gobble Up Omnibus Earmarks
Mississippi Republican Sen. Thad Cochran led his colleagues by raking in more than $470 million in 204 earmarks. Mississippi’s junior Republican, Roger Wicker, pulled in more than $390 million. The totals can’t be added together because the figure includes earmarks each received solo and with others, so the same earmark could be in both senators’ column. Cochran, on his own, pulled in roughly $76 million and Wicker brought home $4 million.
Cochran’s $76 million ranks him sixth among solo earmarkers. (Earmarks can be requested individually, with other members of Congress or along with the president.)
Senate Democrats and Republican ate roughly the same amount from the government trough on a solo basis, although Democrats have one and half times as many members. Democratic members secured about $677 million in individual earmarks; Republicans brought home $669 million. Those solo figures, however, don’t tell the entire story, because about six billion more was requested by groups of lawmakers.
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Erik The Red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:12:38am |
re: #21 redc1c4
Good G_d red what sleep did you get 3 hours? Good Morning
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:13:08am |
re: #18 pat
Also has alienated advertisers.
They’ve not just alienated advertisers, but have lost other ones through consolidations in other industries. A great example would be all the department store advertising lost over the last couple of decades as smaller chains were bought up by larger chains in their markets. As they were bought up, there were fewer advertising dollars to go around.
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Gella Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:13:21am |
re: #20 redc1c4
part of that has already occurred…. except for the ones that are Izvestia.
/white smoke
same thing, same waist of paper
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:13:25am |
re: #19 Crimsonfisted
I need the newspapers to light in our chimney starter. What would I use?
Obama’s Little Blue Book?
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debutaunt Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:13:43am |
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:15:03am |
re: #7 Maximu§
Act III of this drama will be when the government bails out the newspapers and they all become Pravda.
Nyet. Some will be Pravda; some will be Izvestiya.
But in pravda there is no izvestiya, and in isvestiya there is no pravda.
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pat Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:15:14am |
the San Diego Union, used to be a fine paper. Went total moonbat
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vxbush Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:16:08am |
re: #34 pat
the San Diego Union, used to be a fine paper. Went total moonbat
Who was the first paper to go online? Wasn’t it the Mercury News? From San Jose?
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SasquatchOnSteroids Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:16:47am |
Why read a newspaper when you can just watch The Daily Show.
/Entertain me, dammit
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Gella Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:16:59am |
so, can we rename leftists into communists?
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:17:07am |
OT:
I just wanted to repost something from the overnight thread that I thought everyone should read. Originally posted by formercorpsman.
re: #386 formercorpsman
Good morning folks.
Really good read from the spin-off links.
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:17:19am |
re: #26 Erik The Red
Good G_d red what sleep did you get 3 hours? Good Morning
to quote Warren Zevon: “I’ll sleep when I’m dead.”
personally, i blame it on the Army…… %-)
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:17:31am |
re: #30 redc1c4
Apparently if you are too responsible to fuck up these days, you are going to be penalized for it.
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:18:02am |
re: #33 Kosh’s Shadow
Nyet. Some will be Pravda; some will be Izvestiya.
But in pravda there is no izvestiya, and in isvestiya there is no pravda.
GMTA!
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Miss Molly Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:18:03am |
If newspapers like the NY Times finally close maybe a few newspapers that are left might consider printing fair and truthful news again. Probably wishful thinking on my part.
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Last Mohican Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:18:21am |
re: #10 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
How long before Barry, Nan and Harry step in with the Media Relief Act?
At about 8:20 in this video, Joe Hicks says that some former editor of the Washington Post claims that the Post is “too big to fail.” I would absolutely expect Obama and his thugs to sink a few billions of dollars into their media mouthpieces soon.
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Dr. Gene Squat Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:20:09am |
re: #44 Last Mohican
At about 8:20 in this video, Joe Hicks says that some former editor of the Washington Post claims that the Post is “too big to fail.”
Nothing is too big to fail…
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Cygnus Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:20:21am |
re: #6 Ford_Prefect
No, they are a red business. As in “in the red”.
Or a yellow business. As in ‘yellow journalism’.
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cronus Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:20:28am |
re: #25 Killgore Trout
Mississippi Republican Sen. Thad Cochran led his colleagues by raking in more than $470 million in 204 earmarks.
No wonder his reelection theme was: Thad Cochran: “Now more than ever”
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:20:39am |
re: #40 turn
Crap, I can’t ever get PJTV to load.
this Vista POS doesn’t like it either…. gotta get old reliable fixed today.
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ThinkRight Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:20:40am |
Abdullah KhaligFlorida Man Accused of Strangling Girlfriend With Bra
ORLANDO, Fla. — Orlando police call it a combative relationship that ended when the boyfriend strangled his girlfriend using a bra.Abdullah Khalig was arrested Tuesday on one count of first-degree murder. The 37-year-old was being held at the Orange County Jail without bail.
He denies killing 29-year-old Lolitta Flores. He told police he last saw her Feb. 18 when he was cited with trespassing at her home during a domestic dispute.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:20:54am |
re: #46 Cygnus
Or a yellow business. As in ‘yellow journalism’.
“You provide the pictures, I’ll provide the war.”
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subsailor68 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:21:05am |
re: #38 Ford_Prefect
OT:
I just wanted to repost something from the overnight thread that I thought everyone should read. Originally posted by formercorpsman.
re: #386 formercorpsman
Good morning folks.
Really good read from the spin-off links.
Thanks so much for re-posting that. It was absolutely terrific. And God rest that great man’s soul.
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bolivar Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:21:09am |
Cannot watch at work will have to do at home. I get a lot out of PJTV and when Bill Whittle is on I am glued to the tube. Only seen Charles briefly. Am looking forward to this one.
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Just Another Four-letter Word Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:21:10am |
re: #19 Crimsonfisted
I need the newspapers to light in our chimney starter. What would I use?
The junk mail that I’m sure you get…
JAFLW
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ThinkRight Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:21:15am |
re: #49 ThinkRight
Abdullah KhaligFlorida Man Accused of Strangling Girlfriend With Bra
Those evil mormans again
/
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Maximu§ Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:21:17am |
re: #33 Kosh’s Shadow
Nyet. Some will be Pravda; some will be Izvestiya.
But in pravda there is no izvestiya, and in isvestiya there is no pravda.
Spasiba Comrade.
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Miss Molly Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:21:19am |
Even if they sink a ton of money in to the Washington Post who will read in outside the beltway? Obama might find it really hard to control the news if only a few newspapers survive and no one is reading any of them.
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Erik The Red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:21:24am |
re: #38 Ford_Prefect
OT:
I just wanted to repost something from the overnight thread that I thought everyone should read. Originally posted by formercorpsman.
re: #386 formercorpsman
Good morning folks.
Really good read from the spin-off links.
Damn it Ford I don’t tear up easily. That story has done it twice today.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:21:37am |
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:21:39am |
I read a rumor here the other day that said the NYT will be gone in about three months. Anyone else hear this elsewhere?
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Dustyvet Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:22:05am |
Funeral March (Chopin; High Audio Version)
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yma o hyd Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:22:08am |
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JacksonTn Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:22:36am |
re: #38 Ford_Prefect
OT:
I just wanted to repost something from the overnight thread that I thought everyone should read. Originally posted by formercorpsman.
re: #386 formercorpsman
Good morning folks.
Really good read from the spin-off links.
That made me cry …I love those guys …
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:22:43am |
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:22:53am |
re: #38 Ford_Prefect
OT:
I just wanted to repost something from the overnight thread that I thought everyone should read. Originally posted by formercorpsman.
re: #386 formercorpsman
Good morning folks.
Really good read from the spin-off links.
Wow.
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Gella Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:23:13am |
re: #59 MandyManners
I read a rumor here the other day that said the NYT will be gone in about three months. Anyone else hear this elsewhere?
so as America according to Russkie
[Link: www.breitbart.com…]
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:23:25am |
re: #57 Erik The Red
Damn it Ford I don’t tear up easily. That story has done it twice today.
I hear ya’. It was posted very early this morning (Here in the US that is) and so not many people were around. I thought more people should see it.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:23:27am |
Makes me wonder how Media Boy is taking the imminent implosion of all these media outlets.
And they have no one but themselves to blame for their predicament since they were such long term boosters of economic collapse.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:23:35am |
re: #59 MandyManners
I read a rumor here the other day that said the NYT will be gone in about three months. Anyone else hear this elsewhere?
No, but all I have to say is,
buh-bye.
/They advertise nationally, but I’ve never seen why I want a New York paper with New York news when I live in Illinois and have two perfectly good papers with local news.
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ThinkRight Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:24:02am |
re: #63 MandyManners
He ain’t a fucking Mennonite.
When Obama gets his brown shirts out they will come for you first
LOL
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:24:32am |
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brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:24:38am |
re: #49 ThinkRight
Re: Fox. “Khalig had just completed his sentence for an earlier attack on her.”
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:24:52am |
re: #39 redc1c4
to quote Warren Zevon: “I’ll sleep when I’m dead.”
personally, i blame it on the Army…… %-)
Sounds similar to one of my favorite quotes, which I use to dismiss annoying enviro-whackos.
“Time enough for the Earth in the grave.”
-Conan the Barbarian
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onslow Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:25:08am |
My newspapers land on my lawn wrapped in three or four clear plastic bags, which I’ve learned, are great for picking up dog shit. Never realized the local rag had such utility.
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Miss Molly Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:25:22am |
If the New York Times might be gone in 3 months then that doesn’t leave much time to plan the celebration. And, if it actually does happen I would think it would scare the bejeepers out of other newspapers.
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Erik The Red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:25:25am |
re: #59 MandyManners
I read a rumor here the other day that said the NYT will be gone in about three months. Anyone else hear this elsewhere?
Florida has the death penalty don’t they? Hang the fucker and send him to meet his pedophile maker.
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ThinkRight Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:25:33am |
re: #71 brookly red
Re: Fox. “Khalig had just completed his sentence for an earlier attack on her.”
I read that
But she was asking for it
/
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:25:40am |
re: #56 Miss Molly
Even if they sink a ton of money in to the Washington Post who will read in outside the beltway? Obama might find it really hard to control the news if only a few newspapers survive and no one is reading any of them.
Large tracts of trees sigh with relief contemplating the imminent collapse of the biased media.
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Conservative in Liberal Hands Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:26:20am |
Slightly OT…
The Background on who developed the bail-out plan
Young Chuck bought a horse from a farmer for $100.
The farmer agreed to deliver the horse the next day.
The next morning, the farmer had bad news. ‘Sorry son, I have some bad news, the horse died.’
Chuck replied, ‘Well, then just give me my money back.’
The farmer said, ‘Can’t do that. I went and spent it already’
Chuck said, ‘Ok, then, just bring me the dead horse.’
The farmer asked, ‘What are you going do with him?
Chuck said, ‘I’m going to raffle him off.’
The farmer said, ‘You can’t raffle off a dead horse!’
Chuck said, ‘Sure can. I just won’t tell anybody he’s dead.’
A month later, the farmer met up with Chuck and asked, ‘What happened with that dead horse?’
Chuck said, ‘I raffled him off. I sold 500 tickets at $2 apiece and made a profit of $998.’
The farmer said, ‘Didn’t anyone complain?’
Chuck said, ‘Just the guy who won. So I gave him his two dollars back.’
Chuck grew up and works now for the government, he was the one who figured out the bail out plan.
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:26:22am |
re: #73 onslow
My newspapers land on my lawn wrapped in three or four clear plastic bags, which I’ve learned, are great for picking up dog shit. Never realized the local rag had such utility.
The only reason we get the Sunday paper is for the coupons. We don’t get any of the other days.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:26:33am |
re: #77 FurryOldGuyJeans
Large tracts of trees sigh with relief contemplating the imminent collapse of the biased media.
Biased media collapse = more carbon sinks.
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Afrocity Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:26:40am |
Found this picture of Timothy Geitner testifying in front of the Senate today.
Someone should tell him that he shouldn’t talk about his personal anatomy or lack thereof in public that way.
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:26:44am |
re: #65 Gella
so as America according to Russkie
[Link: www.breitbart.com…]
that’s been printed before….. any guesses as to why they keep dragging that carcass out?
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:27:34am |
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Conservative in Liberal Hands Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:27:41am |
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Gella Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:28:09am |
re: #82 redc1c4
that’s been printed before….. any guesses as to why they keep dragging that carcass out?
lets see, history might repeat itself with Russia threading USA with cold war again, i hope not
everybody keep riposting it
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jorline Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:28:12am |
re: #77 FurryOldGuyJeans
Large tracts of trees sigh with relief contemplating the imminent collapse of the biased media.
This should make the lib tree huggers happy.
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debutaunt Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:28:14am |
re: #71 brookly red
Re: Fox. “Khalig had just completed his sentence for an earlier attack on her.”
I pronounce - death by jockstrap.
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bolivar Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:28:14am |
re: #38 Ford_Prefect
Thank you Ford, this was a wonderful tribute. Any idea was this the Collings Foundation airshow? I went when it was in Lincoln RI and was just amazed. I took a long time going through every plane they had and the courage it took to get into those things and do the things they had to do just amazes me. I was so honored to see them and even meet some people that flew in them. Local TV even interviewed one guy. The Foundation also sold flights in a fighter - P38 I think and they also had a bomber up and maybe it was a B24.
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Cygnus Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:28:20am |
re: #38 Ford_Prefect
OT:
I just wanted to repost something from the overnight thread that I thought everyone should read. Originally posted by formercorpsman.
re: #386 formercorpsman
Good morning folks.
Really good read from the spin-off links.
What a beautiful story. Thanks to all of our dads, living or not, for their service. *salute*
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:28:27am |
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onslow Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:28:56am |
re: #79 Ford_Prefect
I hate myself every time I cut the check but I continue to subscribe to ensure ‘domestic tranquility.’
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brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:29:10am |
re: #59 MandyManners
I read a rumor here the other day that said the NYT will be gone in about three months. Anyone else hear this elsewhere?
They may be “bankrupt” in 3 months… but there is plenty of money with agenda available to them. That ain’t going anywhere but further left.
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subsailor68 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:29:17am |
Pinch Sulzberger’s final editorial:
“As you probably know, this is the final edition of The New York Times. We here at the old Gray Lady, the paper that always included all the news fit to print, wish to thank all our loyal subscribers. So, a heartfelt thanks goes to Bobby Earl Frappe of Boise, and to Phil Spittle of Muncie. You two guys have been great. Bye now.”
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Erik The Red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:29:26am |
re: #75 Erik The Red
Florida has the death penalty don’t they? Hang the fucker and send him to meet his pedophile maker.
Quoted wrong number sorry 2M should have quoted re: #49 ThinkRight
Abdullah KhaligFlorida Man Accused of Strangling Girlfriend With Bra
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Ward Cleaver Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:30:11am |
re: #45 Dr. Gene Squat
Nothing is too big to fail…
I like your nic. I used to get a kick out of watching Gene Scott.
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Miss Molly Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:30:11am |
FurryOldGuyJeans — I am not exactly a tree hugger but in this case I would love to save a forest of trees if it means these biased newspaper rags would close their doors. I wonder if any newspaper remembers that if we are entitled to a free press we are also entitled to a fair press.
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:30:24am |
re: #68 Honorary Yooper
No, but all I have to say is,
buh-bye./They advertise nationally, but I’ve never seen why I want a New York paper with New York news when I live in Illinois and have two perfectly good papers with local news.
They provide that service just in case your local papers weren’t left enough. Awfully nice of them to do that.
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:30:51am |
re: #89 bolivar
Thank you Ford, this was a wonderful tribute. Any idea was this the Collings Foundation airshow? I went when it was in Lincoln RI and was just amazed. I took a long time going through every plane they had and the courage it took to get into those things and do the things they had to do just amazes me. I was so honored to see them and even meet some people that flew in them. Local TV even interviewed one guy. The Foundation also sold flights in a fighter - P38 I think and they also had a bomber up and maybe it was a B24.
quite likely the Collins people…… my wife went for an hour long flight in the P-51, and they also take donations for flights in the bombers.
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Cygnus Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:31:03am |
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FloridaAnole Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:31:28am |
Well, demean and insult the beliefs of half of your customer base, and what do you expect? As to the other (liberal) half of their customer base, 2/3 of them prefer to spend their time listening to bonka-bonka-binka-binka music on their IPODs, or watching American Idol or Wheel of Fortune reruns rather than read; as Ann Coulter noted: “Conservatives read; Liberals don’t.”
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:31:34am |
re: #93 onslow
I hate myself every time I cut the check but I continue to subscribe to ensure ‘domestic tranquility.’
i lucked out: the LA Times managed to piss off the wife, so dropping them was *her* idea. %-)
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CommonCents Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:31:59am |
re: #13 lawhawk
Not true. They constantly recycle the same canards and memes. They also provide excellent composting materials. /
Nothing soaks up my dog’s urine like a NYT Editorial section.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:32:02am |
re: #65 Gella
so as America according to Russkie
[Link: www.breitbart.com…]
The same was being said as the Soviet Union disintegrated.
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Just Another Four-letter Word Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:32:43am |
re: #38 Ford_Prefect
Ford, thank you very much for pointing us to this blog. I literally cried when I read the last part… It *could be* that my father and his had the same fate? Although my father has been gone for over ten years, I keep him in my heart whenever I see/hear/touch one of the old warbirds - I never pass up a chance to “visit” them when possible. Dad was a mechanic and Flight Engineer on the 17/24/25’s…
Sigh. These wonderful people are almost all gone now. Sad.
JAFLW
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:32:46am |
I let the subscription on my newspaper lapse. A month later, I got a letter (hand addressed) from the paper asking me to renew.
The envelope was hand addressed. Can you believe that?
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CommonCents Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:32:53am |
re: #94 brookly red
They may be “bankrupt” in 3 months… but there is plenty of money with agenda available to them. That ain’t going anywhere but further left.
They won’t shut down until Soros is out of money.
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notutopia Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:33:35am |
Head ‘em up, Move ‘em out!
Here’s another Media Bankruptcy story,
Chavez Declares War on Opposition Media in Venezuela
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:33:46am |
re: #104 CommonCents
Nothing soaks up my dog’s urine like a NYT Editorial section.
So you use bullshit to soak up piss?
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Cygnus Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:33:53am |
re: #104 CommonCents
Nothing soaks up my dog’s urine like a NYT Editorial section.
Your dog has to walk on the NYT? I’m calling PETA! :D
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:34:14am |
re: #102 FloridaAnole
bonka-bonka-binka-binka music
What in the hell is “bonka-bonka-binka-binka music”?
hahahahaha!
Really. What is it?
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Afrocity Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:34:29am |
re: #107 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I let the subscription on my newspaper lapse. A month later, I got a letter (hand addressed) from the paper asking me to renew.
The envelope was hand addressed. Can you believe that?
Sounds like they created a job for someone.
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rexatosis Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:34:31am |
The problem with newspapers is they have forgotten they are a product. People read the paper for Sports (especially what ESPN doesn’t, that means you have the low guy on the staff call up all the local leagues and get their standings and stats—it will sell papers), Comics (Continuity Strips and Funnies, not PC garbage—my local paper has the obligatory “Latino” strip, the only problem is it is a Mexican Latino strip and the dominate Latino group in my neck of the woods are from PR, these idiots don’t even know who their customers are), Obits (which has become a racket that just pisses people off), Op-eds (it means “Opposing Editorials” not “group think”), the police blotter, How Congress Voted (my paper has dropped this, I dropped them), Local Boards Meetings-Agendas (not covered by TV in any way shape or form.) Local arts-music-movie listings (one stop shopping compared with the internet). If the NY Times etc. focused on their product they will do well enough, if they continue to act as propoganda machines they will continue to tank until they go out of business. Why? BECAUSE IT IS A BUSINESS!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:34:45am |
re: #98 Miss Molly
FurryOldGuyJeans — I am not exactly a tree hugger but in this case I would love to save a forest of trees if it means these biased newspaper rags would close their doors. I wonder if any newspaper remembers that if we are entitled to a free press we are also entitled to a fair press.
The Republic has had a grand tradition of Partisan media from even before the beginning. This whole concept of a fair and unbiased media is one big con of recent decades.
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bolivar Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:34:55am |
re: #100 redc1c4
I was thoroughly impressed and gave them more than the admission. It was well worth every penny. Keeping these planes in flying condition is not cheap nor easy. If I had the dough I would help more but, the messiah is depressing my funds even more and I will be out of work in 2 weeks. Not to despair though I will bounce back and be in fine form. Maybe even have a job - though no thanks to obambi.
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saberry0530 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:34:56am |
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tackle Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:34:58am |
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:35:03am |
re: #89 bolivar
I don’t know any more than what is in the link.
I used to work in a bookstore where an older gentleman worked part time. He was well past retirement age and just worked there part time for something to do. I knew that he had been in WWII, but he never really wanted to talk about it. One day, at the end of our shifts it was raining, so I offered to give him a ride home (he lived within easy walking distance). I don’t remember how we started talking about it, but the next thing I knew he was telling me about how he had been captured by the Japanese and spent nearly two years in their prison. Much of that time was spent in solitary. I can’t imagine the strength that it took for him to come out of that sane. We owe his generation more than we could ever repay.
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:35:19am |
re: #75 Erik The Red
Florida has the death penalty don’t they? Hang the fucker and send him to meet his pedophile maker.
To quote Hanover Fist, “Hangin’s too good for him! Burnin’s too good for him! He should be TORN INTO ITSY BITSY PIECES AND BURIED ALIVE!”
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Cygnus Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:36:04am |
re: #113 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What in the hell is “bonka-bonka-binka-binka music”?
hahahahaha!
Really. What is it?
Is it like ‘ding-dang-doodle-rang’? (a name I got from a dear friend who’s 84 and still sharp as a tack!)
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brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:36:08am |
re: #88 debutaunt
I pronounce - death by jockstrap.
I still haven’t made up my mind about the death penalty yet (well OK preemptively it works) but life, full life, at hard labor, like breaking rocks in the hot sun works OK for me.
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:36:37am |
re: #107 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I let the subscription on my newspaper lapse. A month later, I got a letter (hand addressed) from the paper asking me to renew.
The envelope was hand addressed. Can you believe that?
the last time the times called begging for us to resubscribe, the guy got angry with me, and told me i was “wrong”…. i told him it was that sort of attitude that drove people away from the paper….. then i told him the only thing they had that i might be interested in was a loft when they converted the HQ building downtown LA, and did he know when that was going to occur?
he was speechless when i hung up on him
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joncelli Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:36:47am |
re: #7 Maximu§
Bingo. If the government doesn’t explicitly purchase a news service it will at least give a bailout, and the media will be happy to thank their new overlords.
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vxbush Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:37:36am |
I’m just going to dump an idea out of my brain, and it hasn’t been well formulated, so take this with a huge grain of salt:
Some seem to have this assumption that liberals are more technically savvy, and liberals have been the ones to get on the Internet first: Amazon, Google, eBay, etc. etc. (No idea of the political leanings of each of those organizations.)
And Yet….
The bastion of liberal, democrat thought, newspapers, haven’t kept up with the technology. Sure, they have websites, but the websites really offer nothing *different* from the newspapers. It’s not an additional service, it’s just a different venue—sort of like how the local TV station and the newspaper get together to produce some stories that are presented in both media. It’s not new, and it’s certainly not better.
The thing I see that blogs do that newspapers cannot is take personal ability in each topic and shine light on the news stories of the day with regard to each person’s speciality. They are also much better about having a blog train citing their own blog or others that give background, more analysis, or other related stories that newspapers just don’t seem to do. The subject matter expertise, together with historical context or linking information, is what often puts a blog above any newspaper.
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Miss Molly Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:37:42am |
Even if the NYTimes doesn’t go out in 3 months a lot of other newspapers that are on the brink of backruptcy may finally be getting a dim picture of why they are in trouble. A lot of companies that advertize in these papers are using the internet which is so much cheaper for them.
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subsailor68 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:38:00am |
On the WWII topic, my wife’s mom ran Red Cross clubs on the bomber bases in England. She told us that the girls would watch the bombers take off. They’d pick up a pebble for each plane that left.
When the guys returned, they’d drop a pebble for each plane that landed.
Her saddest day was the one where she didn’t drop a single pebble.
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Afrocity Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:39:11am |
re: #124 redc1c4
the last time the times called begging for us to resubscribe, the guy got angry with me, and told me i was “wrong”…. i told him it was that sort of attitude that drove people away from the paper….. then i told him the only thing they had that i might be interested in was a loft when they converted the HQ building downtown LA, and did he know when that was going to occur?
he was speechless when i hung up on him
When the Chicago Tribune called me in January, I said I was not interested. The salesperson pressed me and I told him I would pay one penny for that liberal rag of a newspaper. He hung up on me.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:39:22am |
re: #110 notutopia
Head ‘em up, Move ‘em out!
Here’s another Media Bankruptcy story,
Chavez Declares War on Opposition Media in Venezuela
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]
Did he get the idea from Obama?
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Maximu§ Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:39:24am |
re: #103 redc1c4
i lucked out: the LA Times managed to piss off the wife, so dropping them was *her* idea. %-)
Same thing with the LA Times happened at my house, I showed my wife a front page color picture of a Taliban terrorist complete with the story of the inbedded reporter who followed the Taliban around while they administered “Islamic Justice”
Now that our Son is going to Afghanistan of November, I think it finally sunk in with her that the LA Times is not on our side. They will never get a penny from me again.
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:39:26am |
re: #123 brookly red
I still haven’t made up my mind about the death penalty yet (well OK preemptively it works) but life, full life, at hard labor, like breaking rocks in the hot sun works OK for me.
chain him to a tree, and leave him for the gators.
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Last Mohican Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:40:09am |
re: #124 redc1c4
the last time the times called begging for us to resubscribe, the guy got angry with me, and told me i was “wrong”
He told you that you were “wrong” for not wanting to spend your money on his newspaper?
Well that’s a new one. I suppose if your decision was objectively “wrong,” then the “right” thing to do would be for the government to just appropriate a little more of your money in taxes, and send it to the newspaper company, which would then continue your subscription.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:40:19am |
re: #129 Afrocity
When the Chicago Tribune called me in January, I said I was not interested. The salesperson pressed me and I told him I would pay one penny for that liberal rag of a newspaper. He hung up on me.
That sure would have been paying too much. ;)
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CommonCents Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:40:35am |
re: #38 Ford_Prefect
It’s a shame I can only ding it up once.
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brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:40:45am |
re: #127 Miss Molly
Even if the NYTimes doesn’t go out in 3 months a lot of other newspapers that are on the brink of backruptcy may finally be getting a dim picture of why they are in trouble. A lot of companies that advertize in these papers are using the internet which is so much cheaper for them.
actually pay per click ain’t working out so good… (you can actually count the clicks), so that trend is in trouble too. Hey, do you really click? huh?
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ThinkRight Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:40:54am |
Clinton speaks up for Abbas, and aid for Gaza
RAMALLAH, West Bank (AP) - U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton promised personal involvement in stalled Mideast peace efforts Wednesday and expressed concern about the supply of humanitarian aid to a recovering Gaza.
On her first Mideast visit as secretary of state, Clinton also displayed strong support for Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas. Standing next to him, she told a news conference the Palestinian Authority is the “only legitimate government of the Palestinian people.”
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton
Traitor
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bolivar Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:41:25am |
re: #120 Ford_Prefect
I don’t know any more than what is in the link.
I used to work in a bookstore where an older gentleman worked part time. He was well past retirement age and just worked there part time for something to do. I knew that he had been in WWII, but he never really wanted to talk about it. One day, at the end of our shifts it was raining, so I offered to give him a ride home (he lived within easy walking distance). I don’t remember how we started talking about it, but the next thing I knew he was telling me about how he had been captured by the Japanese and spent nearly two years in their prison. Much of that time was spent in solitary. I can’t imagine the strength that it took for him to come out of that sane. We owe his generation more than we could ever repay.
Amen brother. My Dad was in the Philipines and would never talk about what happened in the war. My Aunt told us that when he came home he would wake up screaming and that told me a lot. The terrible things they put our guys through were inexcusable. I don’t think the Japanese (got in trouble for calling them Japs) ever admitted or apologised for anything. The whole peace thing was a sham in my opinion - they should have investigated more and got the miserable little bas….ok let it go - Dad is gone and nothing will come of it. Yeah it will dammit - they did some terrible things and have never been held to account - much to my dismay.
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Miss Molly Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:42:18am |
Afrocity — I do the same thing with the LA Times. When they call to ask for a subscription I tell them I would not pay a penny for that biased liberal rag. The last time some guy started yelling at me after I said that so I got to hang up on him. They haven’t called back in a long time.
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:42:25am |
re: #133 Last Mohican
He told you that you were “wrong” for not wanting to spend your money on his newspaper?
Well that’s a new one. I suppose if your decision was objectively “wrong,” then the “right” thing to do would be for the government to just appropriate a little more of your money in taxes, and send it to the newspaper company, which would then continue your subscription.
he meant i was wrong about my opinion of the paper. absolute arrogance.
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Last Mohican Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:42:56am |
re: #137 ThinkRight
[Hillary Clinton] told a news conference the Palestinian Authority is the “only legitimate government of the Palestinian people.”
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham C
The “Palestinian people?” What “Palestinian people”?
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Cygnus Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:43:00am |
re: #132 redc1c4
chain him to a tree, and leave him for the gators.
Or drop him off barefoot and wearing only shorts in the middle of an a’a lava field on the Big Island and see if he makes it out alive. Those lava rocks are quite nasty to walk on.
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:44:26am |
re: #143 Cygnus
Or drop him off barefoot and wearing only shorts in the middle of an a’a lava field on the Big Island and see if he makes it out alive. Those lava rocks are quite nasty to walk on.
we could always sign him up for HANO training….. %-)
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brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:44:47am |
re: #132 redc1c4
chain him to a tree, and leave him for the gators.
Well, a. that won’t bring her back, b. he gets off too easy, & c. it only encourages the gators… but we can agree that he is a POS.
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albusteve Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:44:59am |
re: #138 bolivar
Amen brother. My Dad was in the Philipines and would never talk about what happened in the war. My Aunt told us that when he came home he would wake up screaming and that told me a lot. The terrible things they put our guys through were inexcusable. I don’t think the Japanese (got in trouble for calling them Japs) ever admitted or apologised for anything. The whole peace thing was a sham in my opinion - they should have investigated more and got the miserable little bas….ok let it go - Dad is gone and nothing will come of it. Yeah it will dammit - they did some terrible things and have never been held to account - much to my dismay.
the General in charge of the Philipine was hung…forget his name right now
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Maximu§ Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:45:15am |
re: #125 joncelli
Bingo. If the government doesn’t explicitly purchase a news service it will at least give a bailout, and the media will be happy to thank their new overlords.
These papers could turn things around overnight.
-Try supporting our soldiers once in awhile.
-Try supporting our brave Police Officers once in awhile.
-Try calling out the enemy by name.
-Try asking and questioning the Obama Administration the same way you did with the Bush administration.
-Report the Truth and the Facts and leave your opinions for the opinion section.
-Don’t use the AP or BBC as a “source” until their story checks out as Truth.
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Miss Molly Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:45:42am |
I wonder if Hamas got the memo from Hillery that they aren’t going to get to govern.
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Erik The Red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:46:14am |
Good Night Lizards. I am crashing early tonight. See you insomniacs on the LNDT.
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ThinkRight Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:46:16am |
Catholics are urged to give up texting for Lent
ROME (AP) - Roman Catholic bishops in Italy are urging the faithful to go on a high-tech fast for Lent, switching off modern appliances from cars to iPods and abstaining from surfing the Web or text messaging until Easter
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subsailor68 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:46:47am |
re: #146 albusteve
the General in charge of the Philipine was hung…forget his name right now
How ever did you find that out? Was he naked when they hanged him?
(Just teasin’)
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bolivar Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:46:48am |
re: #146 albusteve
the General in charge of the Philipine was hung…forget his name right now
More than I knew already. That is a start. To think we rebuilt their country after destroying it and they kicked our ass after they got their act together.
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Afrocity Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:50:06am |
The Dow is up +144.08 .
I suppose Obama actually convinced some of his minions to buy.
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:50:35am |
re: #138 bolivar
In no way do I defend what the Japanese did in those camps or in Pearl Harbor, but they did pay a huge price in the end; as did all of the countries involved in that war. I just hope that we have learned the lessons that that war taught us and never go down that path again. With the weapons that are available, the results could be truly catastrophic next time.
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bulwrk Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:50:51am |
re: #147 Maximu§
I agree,the internet is great but there are many old timers like myself who miss siting with a cup of joe lazily thumbing through a newspaper in the morning.
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Miss Molly Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:51:15am |
When Hillary telly you to do something you better damn well do it right now or she will have to “deal” with you. I just know everyone will shape up now that Hillary is taking charge.
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ThinkRight Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:51:19am |
re: #154 Afrocity
The Dow is up +144.08 .
I suppose Obama actually convinced some of his minions to buy.
Nah
It is a real Bull Rally
/
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jorline Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:51:31am |
OT
Germany raids over 200 suspected neo-Nazi premises
More than 60 years after World War Two and the Nazi Holocaust, right-wing radicalism is still a problem in Germany, particularly in the former communist eastern part of the country where unemployment is nearly double the rate in the west.
The BKA said last year that neo-Nazis appeared to have shifted their tactics and stepped up violent attacks. Government figures show anti-Semitic crimes rose at the end of last year.
Just the tip of the iceberg.
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Afrocity Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:51:43am |
re: #156 bulwrk
I agree,the internet is great but there are many old timers like myself who miss siting with a cup of joe lazily thumbing through a newspaper in the morning.
Or actually getting a letter from a friend in the mail that is handwritten.
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:51:48am |
re: #154 Afrocity
The Dow is up +144.08 .
I suppose Obama actually convinced some of his minions to buy.
Sorry, I am not paying any attention to the market. The One asked us not to.
/
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:51:48am |
re: #154 Afrocity
The Dow is up +144.08 .
I suppose Obama actually convinced some of his minions to buy.
He just needs to keep his yap shut.
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brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:52:23am |
re: #154 Afrocity
The Dow is up +144.08 .
I suppose Obama actually convinced some of his minions to buy.
I bought ACORN.com, & Little Blue Stickers R Us… :)
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Dianna Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:53:13am |
re: #154 Afrocity
The Dow is up +144.08 .
I suppose Obama actually convinced some of his minions to buy.
The dead cat is bouncing.
I hope you’re feeling better.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:53:33am |
re: #160 Afrocity
Or actually getting a letter from a friend in the mail that is handwritten.
Even I have trouble reading what I wrote at times.
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Afrocity Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:53:40am |
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Dianna Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:54:27am |
re: #165 FurryOldGuyJeans
Even I have trouble reading what I wrote at times.
Sounds like my boss’ handwriting!
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:54:28am |
re: #154 Afrocity
The Dow is up +144.08 .
I suppose Obama actually convinced some of his minions to buy.
Nah. Just some bargain hunting. If Geithner speaks, watch out below.
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brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:54:49am |
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azul93gt Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:54:50am |
At least they’ll go down with their red banners held high.
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:55:45am |
OT, one of 3 screeds in this mornings in box:
Dear MoveOn member,
Want to see what change looks like? Real change?
Well, here it is. Last week, President Obama unveiled his budget—his blueprint for America—and it’s ambitious, amazing, and unapologetically progressive. As Paul Krugman said, it will set America on a “fundamentally new course.”1
President Obama called his budget “a threat to the status quo,” and trust me, the status quo noticed. Oil companies, big banks and insurance companies are already mobilizing to stop it.2
Unfortunately, most folks don’t realize how far-reaching and progressive the plan is—that’s where we all come in.
Here are 10 really incredible things about Obama’s plan. Check them out and then send them on to your friends and family so that millions of people will have the information they need to fight to make this vision a reality.
10 things you should know about Obama’s plan (but probably don’t)
The plan:
1. Makes a $634 billion down payment on fixing health care that will go a long way toward paying for a more efficient, more affordable health care system that covers every single American.3
2. Reduces taxes for 95% of working Americans. And if your family makes less than $250,000, your taxes won’t go up one dime.4
3. Invests more than $100 billion in clean energy technology, creating millions of green jobs that can never be outsourced.5
4. Brings our troops home from Iraq on a firm timetable, finally bringing the war to a close—and freeing up almost ten billion dollars a month for domestic priorities.6
5. Reverses growing income inequality. The plan lets the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans expire and focuses on strengthening the middle class.7
6. Closes multi-billion-dollar tax loopholes for big oil companies. 8
7. Increases grants to help families pay for college—the largest increase ever.9
8. Halves the deficit by 2013. President Obama inherited a legacy of huge deficits and an economy in shambles, but his plan brings the deficit under control as soon as the economy begins to recover.10
9. Dramatically increases funding for the SEC and the CFTC—the agencies that police Wall Street.11
10. Tells it straight. For years, budgets have used accounting tricks to hide the real costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Bush tax cuts, and too many other programs. Obama’s budget gets rid of the smokescreens and lays out what America’s priorities are, what they cost, and how we’re going to pay for them.12
This is the change we voted for. President Obama has done his part, now we need to do ours.
Can you pass this on to your personal network and then click here to let us know how many people you told, so we can track our impact together:
link deleted
Thanks for all you do.
–Daniel, Tanya, Peter, Justin and the rest of the team
P.S. Turns out there are way more than 10 amazing things in Obama’s budget and we couldn’t resist sharing just a few more.
1. Stops unnecessary government subsidies to big banks, health insurance companies and big agribusinesses.13,14,15
2. Expands access to early childhood education and improves schools by investing in programs that make sure every child has a qualified, strong teacher.16
3. Negotiates for better prescription drug prices using Medicaid’s tremendous bargaining power.17
4. Expands access to family planning for low-income women.18
5. Caps the pollution that causes global warming, and makes polluters pay to support clean energy innovation.19
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DaddyG Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:56:04am |
re: #49 ThinkRight
Abdullah KhaligFlorida Man Accused of Strangling Girlfriend With Bra
Amish right?
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Annar Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:56:22am |
The Washington Post getting stimulus money!? Government funded newspapers?! Think Pravda of the old USSR and almost all current newspapers in the Arab world.
If that happens the industry really would become the official sopokesman of one party rule and some super editor would get a cabinet level position.
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subsailor68 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:56:27am |
re: #166 Afrocity
I bought Rezko Industries.
Rats. I bought Geithner Securities because I heard they make Turbo Tax. How was I supposed to know it was only a nickname?
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DaddyG Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:56:40am |
re: #163 brookly red
I bought ACORN.com, & Little Blue Stickers R Us… :)
You snark good! I appreciate that in a poster.
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realwest Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:56:46am |
I really enjoyed the interview, but I think Charles’ main point, which is that the print media’s editorial bias to the Left (which I think clearly carries over to their “reporting of the news” not just on the editorial pages) is also going to doom their attempt at on-line editions and blogs.
Folks just want better balance in the reporting of, and discussing (editorializing) of the news. If they don’t get it in the print media (which they haven’t been) and they don’t have it on their “On-Line” versions, they are doomed without the “endowment” from the government which Joe brought up.
And yes, I expect the WaPo and other papers of their ilk which feel that they are too big to go under, will be looking for some of the government’s “stimulus” money. I hope they don’t get it, but given their incredibly biased reporting and editorializing on the last Presidential election, they just might get something like an “endowment” from Obama - sort of the way Obama is trying hard to reward his Union supporters with the bail(ing) out of the Big 3.
This, of course however, brings up all sorts of possible constitutional challenges to a “Free Press”.
Good interview Charles - and enlightening too.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:57:10am |
re: #38 Ford_Prefect
OT:
I just wanted to repost something from the overnight thread that I thought everyone should read. Originally posted by formercorpsman.
Good morning folks.
Really good read from the spin-off links.
I humbly submit that we should all go back to formercorpsman’s original comment on the Overnight Thread (I’ve added a hyperlink, above) and upding th’ hell out of it.
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:57:33am |
re: #166 Afrocity
I bought Rezko Industries.
I went with that new Syrian chemical company and some Gaza import/export firms.
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:57:36am |
re: #156 bulwrk
I agree,the internet is great but there are many old timers like myself who miss siting with a cup of joe lazily thumbing through a newspaper in the morning.
Kind of the way I feel about books. These digital book things intrigue me, but I think I would seriously miss holding a real book in my hands; opening a new hardcover book; adding that book to my shelves when I am done. There is something to be said for the old ways.
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jaunte Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:57:46am |
re: #171 redc1c4
“2. Reduces taxes for 95% of working Americans. And if your family makes less than $250,000, your taxes won’t go up one dime.”
Magic!
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yma o hyd Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:57:58am |
re: #138 bolivar
Amen brother. My Dad was in the Philipines and would never talk about what happened in the war. My Aunt told us that when he came home he would wake up screaming and that told me a lot. The terrible things they put our guys through were inexcusable. I don’t think the Japanese (got in trouble for calling them Japs) ever admitted or apologised for anything. The whole peace thing was a sham in my opinion - they should have investigated more and got the miserable little bas….ok let it go - Dad is gone and nothing will come of it. Yeah it will dammit - they did some terrible things and have never been held to account - much to my dismay.
They have never apologised or payed for damages.
The British soldiers who ended up as Japanese POW (and the women!) were the last to get some recompensation from a begrudging British government.
‘The Bridge over the River Kwai’ gives only a very prettified picture of the true horrors, based on actual events as it is.
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lawhawk Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:58:01am |
re: #154 Afrocity
The Dow is up +144.08 .
I suppose Obama actually convinced some of his minions to buy.
After 5 days of down, they’ve got buy opportunities in - programmed buys and all that - but the fundamentals haven’t exactly changed overnight.
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:58:32am |
re: #177 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I humbly submit that we should all go back to formercorpsman’s original comment on the Overnight Thread (I’ve added a hyperlink, above) and upding th’ hell out of it.
Absolutely. I did that earlier. I would do it again if I could.
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brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:58:35am |
re: #175 DaddyG
You snark good! I appreciate that in a poster.
Thanks, I am a New Yorker… snark is my birth-right.
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FloridaAnole Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:59:00am |
re: #113 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What in the hell is “bonka-bonka-binka-binka music”?
hahahahaha!
Really. What is it?
If you’ve ever listened to stuff by say, Brooke (Hogan) or Natasha Bedingfield or sometimes Rihanna- mostly young woman singers, heavy on the bass drums and plinkety-plunkety techno percussion — sort of hip-hop for girls, I guess — that’s what I meant. (Makes you almost want to yell “bring on the Stones!” , or maybe, not quite.
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:59:11am |
re: #180 jaunte
“2. Reduces taxes for 95% of working Americans. And if your family makes less than $250,000, your taxes won’t go up one dime.”
Magic!
you misspelled “horseshit”…… %-)
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:59:15am |
re: #183 Ford_Prefect
Absolutely. I did that earlier. I would do it again if I could.
Ford, thank you VERY much for re-posting that!
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:59:20am |
re: #171 redc1c4
This “Daniel, Tanya, Peter, Justin and the rest of the team” of MoveOn is highly delusional. Has anyone suggested padded cells for them yet?
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subsailor68 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:59:55am |
re: #177 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I humbly submit that we should all go back to formercorpsman’s original comment on the Overnight Thread (I’ve added a hyperlink, above) and upding th’ hell out of it.
Great idea. Just did it.
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DaddyG Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:59:59am |
re: #179 Ford_Prefect
Kind of the way I feel about books. These digital book things intrigue me, but I think I would seriously miss holding a real book in my hands; opening a new hardcover book; adding that book to my shelves when I am done. There is something to be said for the old ways.
“There must be something in books, things we can’t imagine, to make a woman stay in a burning house; there must be something there. You don’t stay for nothing.”
- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451, Part 1
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bolivar Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:59:59am |
re: #155 Ford_Prefect
Ford, I realize to get a pound of flesh is not possible but dammit, they took the life out of so many of these guys. Some carried terrible baggage the rest of their lives (and did so without complaint). These men and women were the REAL HEROES and deserve better than to be a footnote in some report or squirreled away in an archive. The Japs did terrible things - many of which are only now beginning to come out.
No, sadly the Japanese military did NOT pay for their terrible deeds - nor could they ever do so in my estimation. This would come from the emperor on down - they all share in the guilt. We let them off easy and you know it. They never acknowleged their misdeeds nor has a real official apology been offered as far as I know (not that it would be genuine or even acceptable at this late date). They save face this way - we should have smacked that face repeatedly. I just cannot let it go - we were not the only ones to benefit from their largesse. China paid an awful price for what - existing nearby? Just cannot forgive and forget - to this day I cannot nor will I ever own a Japanese car. Some things just cut too deep.
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jcm Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:00:19am |
re: #182 lawhawk
After 5 days of down, they’ve got buy opportunities in - programmed buys and all that - but the fundamentals haven’t exactly changed overnight.
It’s a good time to buy, for the long term.
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yma o hyd Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:00:20am |
re: #159 jorline
OT
Germany raids over 200 suspected neo-Nazi premises
Just the tip of the iceberg.
Yep - but the Germans seem to be doing something about it.
Here, there are no raids on neo-Nazis, here they get elected …
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realwest Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:00:35am |
re: #177 pre-Boomer Marine brat Agreed and done.
And sypathies and condoloences to formercorpsman and his family as well.
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:00:39am |
re: #189 Honorary Yooper
This “Daniel, Tanya, Peter, Justin and the rest of the team” of MoveOn is highly delusional. Has anyone suggested padded cells for them yet?
i believe they have thwir own office in the White House now….
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brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:00:41am |
re: #178 redc1c4
I went with that new Syrian chemical company and some Gaza import/export firms.
Tunnel Rat Co? Ohhhh, I head they were re-structuring…
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Afrocity Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:00:50am |
re: #176 realwest
I really cannot remember the exact moment that the media went so wrong. What happened to the Walter Cronkites of journalism. They are supposed to report the news- not shape public opinion. Maybe it is because of cable and the extensive air time.
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saberry0530 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:01:34am |
re: #180 jaunte
“2. Reduces taxes for 95% of working Americans. And if your family makes less than $250,000, your taxes won’t go up one dime, they will go up by 30 to 40%.”
Magic!
///Sometimes the truth is omitted.
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lawhawk Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:01:43am |
re: #181 yma o hyd
There’s a reason it was called the Bataan Death March. Those Japanese involved were truly brutal. Some Japanese were given war crimes trials, but some of the crimes were never fully investigated - particularly those against the Chinese and Koreans on the mainland.
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:01:54am |
re: #188 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Ford, thank you VERY much for re-posting that!
You are very welcome. I suggested to formercorpsman this morning that he should repost it later, but since I haven’t seen him around I wanted to make sure it got reposted. I thank everyone that gave me an upding, but really he is the one that should get them.
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bulwrk Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:02:47am |
re: #179 Ford_Prefect
Sort of weird but I love the smell of a new book.
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lawhawk Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:02:49am |
re: #180 jaunte
“2. Reduces taxes for 95% of working Americans. And if your family makes less than $250,000, your taxes won’t go up one dime.”
Magic!
And like magic, you’ll have to ignore all the other taxes and fees that go up to cover for the massive spending spree that is without comparison in all of US history.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:02:55am |
re: #167 Dianna
Sounds like my boss’ handwriting!
I have taken to actually printing each letter instead of writing them cursively. My signature is how I write, a scrawl.re: #198 Afrocity
I really cannot remember the exact moment that the media went so wrong. What happened to the Walter Cronkites of journalism. They are supposed to report the news- not shape public opinion. Maybe it is because of cable and the extensive air time.
Even Walter Cronkite was exceedingly biased left. It was well hidden since there was no real alternative to show the bias.
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brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:03:04am |
re: #198 Afrocity
I really cannot remember the exact moment that the media went so wrong. What happened to the Walter Cronkites of journalism. They are supposed to report the news- not shape public opinion. Maybe it is because of cable and the extensive air time.
It’s not so much when they went wrong as when they got caught… I guess the internet had something to do w/that no?
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formercorpsman Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:03:12am |
re: #177 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Well thanks. But I can’t take credit for it. Pink Freud was who posted it in the spin-off links.
Go under military, it should be first, and give him/her the credit. I would not have known of it otherwise.
I appreciate the sentiment though.
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Rexatosis Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:03:22am |
Re# 154 Afrocity
This is just the usual bargain hunting for blue chips that follows a big drop. Good div. rate and P/E (that’s actually a math sign in there Mr. President, you do remember math?) and solid cap will give the bargain buyers a good idea of which good stocks have been driven down by the frenzy of the decline and are undervalued which they will scoop up and as a result you get a little rally against the dominant bear market but the bears will still dominate.
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subsailor68 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:03:31am |
re: #198 Afrocity
I really cannot remember the exact moment that the media went so wrong. What happened to the Walter Cronkites of journalism. They are supposed to report the news- not shape public opinion. Maybe it is because of cable and the extensive air time.
Back in the 70’s, my wife worked in television news, first in Jacksonville, FL, then in San Diego, CA. It was right at the time that station owners started bringing in “news consultants” - who really didn’t know anything about news at all. They were the idiots who created the “happy news” concept that we’re still suffering from today. They also pushed the idea of advocacy journalism.
My wife, and tons of really qualified folks on both sides of the camera resigned in total disgust.
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jorline Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:03:57am |
re: #171 redc1c4
I will bet any amount of money their home don’t have carpet…the floors are lined with the New York Times.
Watch for low fling birds and don’t look up.
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yma o hyd Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:04:13am |
re: #177 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I humbly submit that we should all go back to formercorpsman’s original comment on the Overnight Thread (I’ve added a hyperlink, above) and upding th’ hell out of it.
Done.
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Afrocity Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:04:28am |
75 Billion to help people with mortgages.
The home’s value must be less than $700,000.
Silly me. I have rented all of my life because I thought I could not afford a home. Little did I know that the black man would come riding in on his white horse to save little ol’ me from big bad mean America.
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pink freud Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:04:33am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:04:58am |
re: #201 Ford_Prefect
You are very welcome. I suggested to formercorpsman this morning that he should repost it later, but since I haven’t seen him around I wanted to make sure it got reposted. I thank everyone that gave me an upding, but really he is the one that should get them.
I did a user search on him, saw your suggestion, and immediately figured that he wasn’t in “after sun-up”.
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:05:00am |
re: #202 bulwrk
Sort of weird but I love the smell of a new book.
Not weird at all. Unless you hang out in bookstores sniffing the binding glue.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:05:40am |
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FloridaAnole Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:05:55am |
re: #192 bolivar
Ford, I realize to get a pound of flesh is not possible but dammit, they took the life out of so many of these guys. Some carried terrible baggage the rest of their lives (and did so without complaint). These men and women were the REAL HEROES and deserve better than to be a footnote in some report or squirreled away in an archive. The Japs did terrible things - many of which are only now beginning to come out.
No, sadly the Japanese military did NOT pay for their terrible deeds - nor could they ever do so in my estimation. This would come from the emperor on down - they all share in the guilt. We let them off easy and you know it. They never acknowleged their misdeeds nor has a real official apology been offered as far as I know (not that it would be genuine or even acceptable at this late date). They save face this way - we should have smacked that face repeatedly. I just cannot let it go - we were not the only ones to benefit from their largesse. China paid an awful price for what - existing nearby? Just cannot forgive and forget - to this day I cannot nor will I ever own a Japanese car. Some things just cut too deep.
This is why I get annoyed whenever liberals try to “guilt” us on every anniversary of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but leave out everything that preceded.
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:06:04am |
re: #197 brookly red
Tunnel Rat Co? Ohhhh, I head they were re-structuring…
yeah, but they just got a big capital infusion……….
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Miss Molly Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:07:01am |
Barry didn’t take math because he knew he would not follow “the gyrations of the day to day stock market”. So why waste his time in math classes. Besides, if he needs money for programs he can tax everything that moves and everything that dosen’t move.
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subsailor68 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:07:23am |
re: #216 FloridaAnole
This is why I get annoyed whenever liberals try to “guilt” us on every anniversary of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but leave out everything that preceded.
That makes two of us. Can you imagine the death and destruction (on both sides) if we’d been forced to invade instead? Mind-boggling.
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brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:07:30am |
re: #217 redc1c4
yeah, but they just got a big capital infusion……….
Well OK, but I wouldn’t hold them too long…
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:07:32am |
re: #206 formercorpsman
Well thanks. But I can’t take credit for it. Pink Freud was who posted it in the spin-off links.
Go under military, it should be first, and give him/her the credit. I would not have known of it otherwise.
I appreciate the sentiment though.
Well, hell, then I’ll go looking for Pink Freud’s spinoff link and up-whack that one too!
Thanks for giving it more visibility. Some of us don’t usually have time to peruse the spinoffs.
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yma o hyd Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:07:42am |
re: #192 bolivar
Ford, I realize to get a pound of flesh is not possible but dammit, they took the life out of so many of these guys. Some carried terrible baggage the rest of their lives (and did so without complaint). These men and women were the REAL HEROES and deserve better than to be a footnote in some report or squirreled away in an archive. The Japs did terrible things - many of which are only now beginning to come out.
No, sadly the Japanese military did NOT pay for their terrible deeds - nor could they ever do so in my estimation. This would come from the emperor on down - they all share in the guilt. We let them off easy and you know it. They never acknowleged their misdeeds nor has a real official apology been offered as far as I know (not that it would be genuine or even acceptable at this late date). They save face this way - we should have smacked that face repeatedly. I just cannot let it go - we were not the only ones to benefit from their largesse. China paid an awful price for what - existing nearby? Just cannot forgive and forget - to this day I cannot nor will I ever own a Japanese car. Some things just cut too deep.
I’m quoting you in full - becaus this is exactly how so many of our Brithish POWs see it.
It is very interesting - the British WWII veterans have now no qualms to meet and speak with their former German enemies. But not one will go to speak to the Japanese vets.
Says it all …
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:08:17am |
re: #216 FloridaAnole
This is why I get annoyed whenever liberals try to “guilt” us on every anniversary of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but leave out everything that preceded.
And the Japanese Military would have gleefully used “the bomb”, and kept on using it repeatedly, if they had gotten it first.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:08:49am |
re: #212 pink freud
I posted the original link in the spinoffs where formercorpsman found it. Here’s the link.
Lots of lizard monitor the spinoffs rather than follow the threads and may have a better chance of seeing it there. This deserves its place in the top-rated links of all time.
Thanks! … Just up-dinged it.
Bless you for posting it!
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pink freud Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:08:54am |
re: #221 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Well, hell, then I’ll go looking for Pink Freud’s spinoff link and up-whack that one too!
Thanks for giving it more visibility. Some of us don’t usually have time to peruse the spinoffs.
Here’s the link, PBMR: My Father Asks For Nothing
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:09:40am |
re: #211 Afrocity
A couple of years ago, I was in a house designing a kitchen for a very nice couple. Very nice house, well appointed.
Couple seemed well to do…
Took their credit application. Between the two of them…$38,000.00. Three kids, $400,000.00 house. When their credit was declined, I asked them…
“How in the hell can you afford to live in a home like this with 38,000.00 in income.”
The answer they gave me sent a “We’re heading for some weird times” shudder through me.
They answered, “Two more years.”
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bolivar Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:10:12am |
re: #216 FloridaAnole
I hear ya. I love my Dad and wish I could talk with him today. The things he could tell me would be rich and fruitful. We never appreciate a golden thing until it is gone. I will keep the flame alive for him and his comrades in arms. It is the absolute least I can do.
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brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:10:44am |
re: #223 FurryOldGuyJeans
And the Japanese Military would have gleefully used “the bomb”, and kept on using it repeatedly, if they had gotten it first.
Oh, that’s F’ed up… I we thought like that today Iran would just be a smoking hol… never mind.
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FloridaAnole Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:10:52am |
re: #218 Miss Molly
Barry didn’t take math because he knew he would not follow “the gyrations of the day to day stock market”. So why waste his time in math classes. Besides, if he needs money for programs he can tax everything that moves and everything that dosen’t move.
So? He’s not proficient in technical analysis. Unfortunately, he doesn’t seem to have any grasp of fundamental analysis , either. I’d love to see some wiseass reporter quiz him on the ROI on the discounted cash flow from the Stimulouse Scam.
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:11:13am |
re: #212 pink freud
I posted the original link in the spinoffs where formercorpsman found it. Here’s the link.
Lots of lizard monitor the spinoffs rather than follow the threads and may have a better chance of seeing it there. This deserves its place in the top-rated links of all time.
Thank you for posting it. I looked for the original link but couldn’t find it. If there was some way I could give you all of the updings I have gotten for the repost I would.
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realwest Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:11:26am |
re: #198 Afrocity
Hi Afrocity - I understand what you mean, but you unwittingly picked the wrong guy to exemplify “the old news and reporting”. Cronkite’s distorted coverage of the Tet Offensive in early 1968 of the Vietnam War gave Americans at home the impression that the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese Army had won a great victory, when in fact Tet nearly destroyed both. Indeed, General Giap (the military genius behind the Communist forces in Vietnam) wrote in his book (which was a semi-autobiography) that had the South Vietnamese and US forces followed up and pursued his forces, they could have easily destroy the Communist forces in Vietnam.
I honestly can’t think of a news man - so out front that the public immediatley recognized his name AND TRUSTED HIM, since Edward R. Murrow. Exactly WHEN the media went so off the rails is hard to pin down. “Uncle Walter” Cronkite was certainly perceived by the public to be carrying on Murrow’s legacy, but he clearly (with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight) was a part of the problem. I wish I had an answer for you but I just don’t.
Of course, biased reporting was around long before TV (see, e.g., William Randolph Hearst and the Spanish American War) but it didn’t have the IMPACT that TV news does.
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:11:35am |
re: #220 brookly red
Well OK, but I wouldn’t hold them too long…
or too close.
just a quick flip, and then i’m buying into the Iranian radiological research program….. i hear they’re set for explosive growth soon, and are looking at the possibilities of the export market too.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:11:40am |
re: #225 pink freud
Got it from your earlier … see my prior.
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Ben Hur Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:12:58am |
After telling you that the end of the world was eminent, does this man look worried?
[Link: www.wwl.com…]
Add it to the list.
Parties.
Reading books to kids.
Camp David.
Shopping.
Basketball game.
And they gave Bush crap for being on Air Force One.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:13:01am |
re: #236 buzzsawmonkey
No. That’s what confused me. The knew they would simply lose the house in two years when the “nut” came due.
I was reeeeeeally pissed off. Spent 5 hours with them, designing, etc.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:13:23am |
re: #232 Ford_Prefect
Thank you for posting it. I looked for the original link but couldn’t find it. If there was some way I could give you all of the updings I have gotten for the repost I would.
You deserved the up-dings for re-posting it.
Just be quiet (heh) while the rest of us take care of the “original/s”.
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:13:35am |
Can Sulzburger send a reporter over to slap Sean Penn in the face now?
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pink freud Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:13:39am |
re: #232 Ford_Prefect
Thank you for posting it. I looked for the original link but couldn’t find it. If there was some way I could give you all of the updings I have gotten for the repost I would.
I appreciate you sharing it! I read it at 3 a.m. and teared up. A must read for everyone.
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azul93gt Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:14:20am |
#198 Afrocity
I really cannot remember the exact moment that the media went so wrong. What happened to the Walter Cronkites of journalism. They are supposed to report the news- not shape public opinion. Maybe it is because of cable and the extensive air time.
Cronkite was almost as bad as his successors in terms of leftist bias.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:14:47am |
re: #240 CyanSnowHawk
It’s all how you define opposition in Penn’s view.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:14:51am |
re: #237 Ben Hur
After telling you that the end of the world was eminent, does this man look worried?
[Link: www.wwl.com…]
Add it to the list.
Parties.
Reading books to kids.
Camp David.
Shopping.
Basketball game.And they gave Bush crap for being on Air Force One.
You forgot:
Fiddling.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:14:55am |
re: #240 CyanSnowHawk
Can Sulzburger send a reporter over to slap Sean Penn in the face now?
There’s a chance you’ld castrate Hugo doing that.
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brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:15:06am |
re: #234 redc1c4
or too close.
just a quick flip, and then i’m buying into the Iranian radiological research program….. i hear they’re set for explosive growth soon, and are looking at the possibilities of the export market too.
Nawww, too much competition from Pakistan & North Korea… plus they got distribution issues.
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yma o hyd Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:15:10am |
re: #200 lawhawk
There’s a reason it was called the Bataan Death March. Those Japanese involved were truly brutal. Some Japanese were given war crimes trials, but some of the crimes were never fully investigated - particularly those against the Chinese and Koreans on the mainland.
True.
And then there is the fall of Singapore - and the Alexandra Hospital Massacre - which pales in comparison with the Bataan Death March but shows the same spirit.
And let us not forget Okinawa, and what the Japanese did to the Okinawans, besides to how they fought the US Marines.
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Leonidas Hoplite Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:15:24am |
re: #128 subsailor68
On the WWII topic, my wife’s mom ran Red Cross clubs on the bomber bases in England. She told us that the girls would watch the bombers take off. They’d pick up a pebble for each plane that left.
When the guys returned, they’d drop a pebble for each plane that landed.
Her saddest day was the one where she didn’t drop a single pebble.
The black days/months of that bomber offensive must have been awful.
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:15:37am |
re: #245 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
There’s a chance you’ld castrate Hugo doing that.
then we’ll just have to take that chance, won’t we?
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Miss Molly Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:15:40am |
FloridaAnole — I think Barry has the press conferences covered so he will ask only reporters who he has previously notified that he will call on them and of course knows what questions will be asked. Anyone who actually asked a real question which he can’t answer will be banned forever from the news conferences, White House, Air Force One or anywhere else Barry shows up.
Personally, I think it is only a matter of short time when we will begin to hear questions that Barry will not be able to answer but will give us his stupid answer anyway.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:16:03am |
re: #240 CyanSnowHawk
Can Sulzburger send a reporter over to slap Sean Penn in the face now?
How long before 0bama does the same in the US?
Oh wait, there isn’t much opposition media, and he has declared war on Rush.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:16:03am |
re: #238 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
No. That’s what confused me. The knew they would simply lose the house in two years when the “nut” came due.
I was reeeeeeally pissed off. Spent 5 hours with them, designing, etc.
Don’t you pre-qualify before you do all the leg work? Or at least get some idea of where they stand so you can know if you can up sell or even walk away?
Five hours seems a lot of time to spend with 2 people who you had no idea could even cover your time.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:16:05am |
re: #242 azul93gt
Cronkite was almost as bad as his successors in terms of leftist bias.
I personally think Cronkite is worse because he had the mantle of respectability to hide his bias under.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:16:06am |
re: #226 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
A couple of years ago, I was in a house designing a kitchen for a very nice couple. Very nice house, well appointed.
Couple seemed well to do…
Took their credit application. Between the two of them…$38,000.00. Three kids, $400,000.00 house. When their credit was declined, I asked them…
“How in the hell can you afford to live in a home like this with 38,000.00 in income.”
The answer they gave me sent a “We’re heading for some weird times” shudder through me.
They answered, “Two more years.”
I once took a mortgage app for a couple in San Diego who wanted to buy a $400,000 house. They both worked for fast food restaurants making $8.00/hr. I told him to find a lower priced house and he said “There aren’t any houses priced lower around here.”
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:16:28am |
re: #237 Ben Hur
Let the man have a beer. Sheesh.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:16:31am |
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bulwrk Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:16:34am |
re: #222 yma o hyd
I’m quoting you in full - becaus this is exactly how so many of our Brithish POWs see it.
It is very interesting - the British WWII veterans have now no qualms to meet and speak with their former German enemies. But not one will go to speak to the Japanese vets.
Says it all …
I’ve noticed what I find to be a disturbing trend in fashion here in L.A.There is a clothing manufacturer that uses the the flag of the Imperial Japanese Navy on its line and it seems to be popular with kids.
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formercorpsman Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:17:29am |
re: #212 pink freud
Sorry for not attributing in my original post. I read it quick, and was trying to get out the door to fix a burst water pipe elsewhere.
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yma o hyd Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:17:49am |
re: #206 formercorpsman
Well thanks. But I can’t take credit for it. Pink Freud was who posted it in the spin-off links.
Go under military, it should be first, and give him/her the credit. I would not have known of it otherwise.
I appreciate the sentiment though.
And that what I so love about Lizards - always ready with the hat-tip, never taking praise if the work is not their own.
Thank you, {formercorpsman}!
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:18:04am |
re: #236 buzzsawmonkey
Were they gambling on being able to meet the bills for 2 years and then flipping the house, taking advantage of a presumed rise in price?
Two years ago, well maybe three now, that was the general plan all over.
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subsailor68 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:18:33am |
re: #248 Leonidas Hoplite
The black days/months of that bomber offensive must have been awful.
They truly must have been. IIRC, the original bomb group mom-in-law was attached to was so decimated that it actually went away, with the remaining pilots/crews being assigned to other groups.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:18:38am |
re: #252 Walter L. Newton
That’s a problem. Can’t do it. It’s weird, I know…just doesn’t work that way. Sometimes you have an idea, take some short-cuts… They had me totally flim-flammed.
You did see my correction earlier? Who a comment was pointed at…correct?
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:18:55am |
re: #251 Kosh’s Shadow
How long before 0bama does the same in the US?
Oh wait, there isn’t much opposition media, and he has declared war on Rush.
Why wait?
Gibbs Takes Off Gloves to Challenge Reporters, Hosts Who Cross Obama
White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs has singled out media personalities Jim Cramer, Rush Limbaugh and Rick Santelli in the course of less than two weeks.
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realwest Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:19:31am |
re: #206 formercorpsman
I completely apologize for my comment #195 - I got confused reading the link to link and though it was your link and that you were talking about your father.
I’m truly sorry for that.
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:19:46am |
re: #257 bulwrk
I’ve noticed what I find to be a disturbing trend in fashion here in L.A.There is a clothing manufacturer that uses the the flag of the Imperial Japanese Navy on its line and it seems to be popular with kids.
haven’t seen that yet, but i’m sure it will piss me off when i do.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:20:10am |
re: #263 NJDhockeyfan
Everytime Gibbs or 0bama mention Rush’s name… oh, ten thousand or so new listeners.
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pink freud Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:20:24am |
re: #258 formercorpsman
Sorry for not attributing in my original post. I read it quick, and was trying to get out the door to fix a burst water pipe elsewhere.
Pshaw! It’s not about attribution, it’s about spreading it around. (Which you did admirably, I was so pleased to see you had linked it here ….the response has been great; I am so glad so many got to read it.) These guys deserve all the honor we can give them.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:20:51am |
re: #265 realwest
Cool story though, huh. Don’t sweat it.
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WriterMom Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:20:59am |
re: #237 Ben Hur
Silly boy. Catastrophe just translates into: FORK OVER THE PORK and I WON. Otherwise, everything’s cool, man.
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FloridaAnole Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:21:13am |
re: #250 Miss Molly
FloridaAnole — I think Barry has the press conferences covered so he will ask only reporters who he has previously notified that he will call on them and of course knows what questions will be asked. Anyone who actually asked a real question which he can’t answer will be banned forever from the news conferences, White House, Air Force One or anywhere else Barry shows up.
Personally, I think it is only a matter of short time when we will begin to hear questions that Barry will not be able to answer but will give us his stupid answer anyway.
Unfortunately, you are absolutely right. In the meantime, I guess we have to hope for accidental ad lib stupidities, no?
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:21:43am |
re: #262 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
… You did see my correction earlier? Who a comment was pointed at…correct?
What? That point above, I don’t have any idea what you are talking about. I just got back in, and saw your comment about financing, and I was just wondering about the process.
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formercorpsman Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:21:47am |
re: #269 pink freud
Indeed. It was one I could truly relate to.
I am going to try and get in touch with that guy.
No doubt, his Pop is proud.
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subsailor68 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:21:54am |
re: #264 buzzsawmonkey
Thanks for the recommendation! I’ll add that book to my reading list. (Great synopsis by the way.)
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Miss Molly Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:22:21am |
Robert Gibbs is after 3 reporters who challenge Obama. Well, that list will get a lot longer soon enough!
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Silvergirl Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:22:22am |
re: #19 Crimsonfisted
I need the newspapers to light in our chimney starter. What would I use?
See if you can get your hands on a copy of the stimulus bill. I heard it’s over 1000 pages, and about 8” thick, and nobody’s reading it anyway. It’s helping our country go up in smoke. Oughta work in the fireplace.
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avanti Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:22:57am |
re: #154 Afrocity
The Dow is up +144.08 .
I suppose Obama actually convinced some of his minions to buy.
My broker called me yesterday saying he was putting me back in this A.M., I’m sure I was not the only one. I doubt it had much to do with BO, just cheap stocks.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:23:19am |
re: #278 Miss Molly
Robert Gibbs is after 3 reporters who challenge Obama. Well, that list will get a lot longer soon enough!
What? Link, what are you referring to?
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WriterMom Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:23:34am |
re: #279 Silvergirl
Could be a great cure for insomnia if you weren’t footing the bill for the insanity. It’s like getting a bill for a dinner party on your credit card that you weren’t even invited to.
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Leonidas Hoplite Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:23:42am |
re: #216 FloridaAnole
This is why I get annoyed whenever liberals try to “guilt” us on every anniversary of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but leave out everything that preceded.
Not too mention that Hiroshima and Nagasaki porbably saved more Japanese lives than American.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:23:43am |
re: #275 Walter L. Newton
Earlier (a few flights down) I pointed you toward a comment I made. You thought I was referring to you (because of the smart-aleck way I approached it)…you took a smidge of umbrage. Was pointed in another direction….if you forgot it though…forget it.
S’ok.
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Dustyvet Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:24:04am |
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bolivar Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:24:05am |
re: #269 pink freud
I agree Pink Freud, I will try to write a tribute to my Dad for Memorial Day. I cannot think of a better thing to do for that occasion. Hope Charles will have a thread - he usually does. Only one reason I love this place - so many kindred spirits - and the other ones that keep you in line. Kinda like a wife or something right?
/ducking from the brickbats
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yma o hyd Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:24:07am |
re: #257 bulwrk
I’ve noticed what I find to be a disturbing trend in fashion here in L.A.There is a clothing manufacturer that uses the the flag of the Imperial Japanese Navy on its line and it seems to be popular with kids.
Kids - yeah, they probably think its a pretty design!
No idea of history.
Disturbing indeed, and disgusting.
They probably think the commie symbol of hammer and sickle also looks pretty …
I cannot understand why the Japanese have been let off so lightly, compared with the Nazis. Ok, the Japanese did not institute the Holocaust, but on a scale of inflicting misery on nations, and de-humanise them, they rank up there with Hitler, Stalin, Mao …
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Ben Hur Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:24:15am |
re: #255 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Let the man have a beer. Sheesh.
Uhhh…No.
Going to a game and having a bear? Normal, no?
Not after the “Sky is Falling” worst situation/emergency since 1929 schtick.
He played on our fears.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:24:30am |
re: #280 avanti
My broker called me yesterday saying he was putting me back in this A.M., I’m sure I was not the only one. I doubt it had much to do with BO, just cheap stocks.
He must be a Republican and knows you voted for the Savior. LOL.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:24:37am |
re: #278 Miss Molly
Robert Gibbs is after 3 reporters who challenge Obama. Well, that list will get a lot longer soon enough!
O sure loves his Enemies List. Will he start using military action to distract from his incompetence in office?
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WriterMom Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:24:57am |
re: #282 buzzsawmonkey
Where this woman thinks she has a right to a house—especially one costing so much—is beyond me. I also can’t fathom anybody being crazy enough to write the mortgage
.
Definitely central issues, the feeling of being ‘entitled’ to things that you actually CAN’T afford, and the fact that she was enabled by a bank to take on an insane level of debt.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:25:17am |
re: #264 buzzsawmonkey
“showing” or “demonstrating” a weapon—in effect, saying “we could use this but don’t want to”—does not show strength, but weakness, a failing of will.
This is true also of Iran. We won’t have proof that they have a bomb until they use one. Thus, they must be stopped before they have one.
So many peaceniks don’t realize that waiting means there will be nuclear war. Once Iran has a bomb, they will use it.
I think Israel is the only country in the Mideast that could have a bomb and NOT use it!
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Miss Molly Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:25:21am |
FlorigaAnole — Oh I am thinking there will be accidental ad libs aplenty and then the fun of who will Barry blame them on. Since Barry is “perfect” it just can never be his fault.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:25:22am |
re: #286 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Earlier (a few flights down) I pointed you toward a comment I made. You thought I was referring to you (because of the smart-aleck way I approached it)…you took a smidge of umbrage. Was pointed in another direction….if you forgot it though…forget it.
S’ok.
I love you brother… don’t worry (what the fuck is he talking about, was I here?).
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:25:36am |
re: #280 avanti
My broker called me yesterday saying he was putting me back in this A.M., I’m sure I was not the only one. I doubt it had much to do with BO, just cheap stocks.
go all in!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:25:39am |
re: #282 buzzsawmonkey
This is the dawning of the age of Hysteria
Age of Hysteria, Hysteria, Hysteria….
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WriterMom Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:26:00am |
re: #289 yma o hyd
Actually, the Japanese had methods of torture that are among the most horrific ever.
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Sharmuta Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:26:14am |
When your product is dependent upon your credibility and you have none, your product will suffer. It’s like a snowball effect.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:26:15am |
re: #290 Ben Hur
Okay, I agree. Let him have a bear.
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:26:20am |
OT: Not sure if this has been posted:
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:26:25am |
re: #280 avanti
A one day bounce and now you are acting all euphoric over the munificence that is O.
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:26:25am |
re: #280 avanti
My broker called me yesterday saying he was putting me back in this A.M., I’m sure I was not the only one. I doubt it had much to do with BO, just cheap stocks.
i forgot to add: “a fool and his money…..”
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:26:28am |
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WriterMom Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:27:09am |
re: #290 Ben Hur
I agree with you. If he wants to show a resolute, ‘business as usual’ casual attitude, then it should be universally applied.
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HoosierHoops Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:27:17am |
re: #257 bulwrk
I’ve noticed what I find to be a disturbing trend in fashion here in L.A.There is a clothing manufacturer that uses the the flag of the Imperial Japanese Navy on its line and it seems to be popular with kids.
Didn’t you ever see the Karate Kid? That stuff is just cool for kids..Crazy headbands, Che’ Tee-Shirts..I think all kids go through that phase…
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:27:21am |
re: #305 FurryOldGuyJeans
A one day bounce and now you are acting all euphoric over the munificence that is O.
Up ding
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realwest Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:27:32am |
re: #278 Miss Molly
From your lips to God’s ears. The number of “reporters” or “journalists” who will go after Obama is terrifyingly few in number NOW.
If Obama tries to pick them off, by name, in public then I fear fewer and fewer will come forward with any criticism they have.
At least as long as Obama’s popularity ratings remain relatively high (depending on your source for those ratings!).
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azul93gt Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:27:35am |
#253 FurryOldGuyJeans
I personally think Cronkite is worse because he had the mantle of respectability to hide his bias under.
I know what you mean. Cronkite was stealthy and damaging, but even he looks good compared to the likes of the Olber-Loon.
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ziggyelman Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:27:40am |
re: #38 Ford_Prefect
OT:
I just wanted to repost something from the overnight thread that I thought everyone should read. Originally posted by formercorpsman.
re: #386 formercorpsman
Good morning folks.
Really good read from the spin-off links.
Very nice! Am I reading it correctly? Went on Saturday, then passed the next day?
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avanti Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:27:49am |
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Ben Hur Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:27:55am |
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brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:27:56am |
re: #292 FurryOldGuyJeans
O sure loves his Enemies List. Will he start using military action to distract from his incompetence in office?
/Distract from or make up for?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:28:14am |
Avanti seems to be pulling me toward the light that is 0bama.
/
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jcm Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:28:29am |
re: #278 Miss Molly
Robert Gibbs is after 3 reporters who challenge Obama. Well, that list will get a lot longer soon enough!
An enemies list!
A good omen! May Obama’s first term end like Nixon’s second!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:28:40am |
So, the deal isn’t that he was having a beer (which I, personally, don’t have a problem with, as it isn’t against his religion), but that he was grinning and drinking a beer so soon after screaming that we are doomed! doomed! so hand over all the cash to me and I’ll make it all better?
Is that it?
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brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:28:59am |
re: #318 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Avanti seems to be pulling me toward the light that is 0bama.
/
that’s hunger… eat something.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:29:34am |
re: #315 avanti
I have no idea, and don’t care as long as he makes me money.
No kidding, you wouldn’t care if he was fucking the world, just like your Savior, as long as you are sated.
Yep, you just about summed up everything you stand for, what we have known for months, what we have seen and heard from you in such “nuanced” ways, but you just slipped and yes, that was your own shit that you just slipped in.
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ThinkRight Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:29:40am |
re: #319 jcm
An enemies list!
A good omen! May Obama’s first term end like Nixon’s second!
I was thinking more like an earlier Presidents
/
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Ben Hur Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:31:03am |
re: #308 WriterMom
I agree with you. If he wants to show a resolute, ‘business as usual’ casual attitude, then it should be universally applied.
Do you think any of his measures have been applied yet and had any effect?
I don’t think so.
It was all bs fear mongering to get Dems their money.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:31:18am |
re: #312 azul93gt
#253 FurryOldGuyJeans
I know what you mean. Cronkite was stealthy and damaging, but even he looks good compared to the likes of the Olber-Loon.
And the looking good is why I rate Cronkite to be worse since he was never called to account for his bias since there was no exposure of it. Now that there are alternatives to the packaged pablum the media tries to spoon feed us all the bias is hard to hide.
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:31:24am |
OT: A little mid-week seething for the ROP: International Court issues arrest warrant for Sudanese leader
From the article:
Within minutes of the court’s announcement, thousands of people gathered in central Khartoum, the Sudanese capital, waving national flags and posters showing the Mr. Bashir’s face and denouncing the court’s decision.
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avanti Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:31:28am |
re: #305 FurryOldGuyJeans
A one day bounce and now you are acting all euphoric over the munificence that is O.
Not at all, just commenting on the fact that my broker put me back in, not BO. He thinks we are probing the bottom, so it could go down again Friday when some big numbers come out.
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:31:38am |
re: #315 avanti
I have no idea, and don’t care as long as he makes me money.
say it a few more times, and even you might begin to believe it.
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:31:50am |
re: #264 buzzsawmonkey
I hope that no one takes my earlier comment as an expression of regret that we used the bomb in Japan. There is no question that using it greatly reduced the number of deaths that would otherwise have occurred. My only point was that everyone involved in that war paid a very high price. Particularly when you figure that it is always those that don’t really have much choice in the matter that pay the highest price.
I had a teacher in 8th grade who told a story about one of her former students at another school. Her father never showed up to any of the parent teacher meetings. When she asked the mother about it, she was told that he had been on one of the planes that flew over Japan and dropped the bomb. He never went out in public anymore because of the guilt that he felt over all those deaths. I don’t remember all the specifics, but I always thought that it was a shame that he felt this way. He, and the others on those planes, are heroes who saved many lives.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:31:54am |
Gonna do some ironing. Y’all need anything ironed?
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realwest Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:32:09am |
re: #292 FurryOldGuyJeans
Hell, how’s he gonna use military action to distract from his ineptitude so far? I don’t see him as any more competent in military matters than he is in social policy or financing!
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Silvergirl Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:32:09am |
re: #284 WriterMom
Could be a great cure for insomnia if you weren’t footing the bill for the insanity. It’s like getting a bill for a dinner party on your credit card that you weren’t even invited to.
That too. Insomnia, firestarter. Not stimulus.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:32:34am |
re: #319 jcm
An enemies list!
A good omen! May Obama’s first term end like Nixon’s second!
Soon. And Biden’s term end shortly thereafter, the same way.
And the next few in line as well.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:33:00am |
re: #315 avanti
So all you care about is being a greedy pig snout down in the trough, to hell with the rest of the country and the world.
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yma o hyd Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:33:09am |
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lawhawk Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:33:14am |
re: #282 buzzsawmonkey
Heck, her home costs more than mine… and I’m just able to afford mine. How did she ever get the mortgage in the first place? It takes two to make a mortgage - the lender and the borrower. This is one of those cases where both should suffer the pain of failure.
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Miss Molly Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:33:29am |
Walter L. Newton — I didn’t have a link for the comment that Robert Gibbs was gong after 3 reporters. It was a written comment on several places that noted that Robert Gibbs was being very hostile to Rush, Rick Santorium (spelling) and one other because they had the nerve to question or critize Obama. I am guessing that Robert Gibbs will trash anyone who questions Obama to the point that many others will be afraid to make comments about Obama. Robert Gibbs is a nasty piece of work and I wonder how long reporters will put up with him.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:33:32am |
re: #327 Creeping Eruption
OT: A little mid-week seething for the ROP: International Court issues arrest warrant for Sudanese leader
From the article:
What? What are they going after him for? He isn’t Israeli.
/do I need to?
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:33:34am |
re: #325 Ben Hur
Do you think any of his measures have been applied yet and had any effect?
I don’t think so.
It was all bs fear mongering to get Dems their money.
oh, all those measures have had an effect: look at the market.
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Kenneth Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:33:39am |
re: #200 lawhawk
There’s a reason it was called the Bataan Death March. Those Japanese involved were truly brutal. Some Japanese were given war crimes trials, but some of the crimes were never fully investigated - particularly those against the Chinese and Koreans on the mainland.
The father of our fellow lizard, Dustoff, was at Bataan in WWII and survived. He’s posted a bit about it.
Hell. On. Earth.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:33:47am |
re: #328 avanti
Try convincing someone else with your blatant bullshit.
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tfc3rid Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:33:48am |
re: #311 realwest
Obama and his minions are just a bunch of street thugs… And their behavior is showing that…
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brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:34:23am |
re: #334 Kosh’s Shadow
Soon. And Biden’s term end shortly thereafter, the same way.
And the next few in line as well.
Gee, how far down do we have to go to get a keeper?
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yma o hyd Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:34:30am |
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bulwrk Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:34:36am |
re: #309 HoosierHoops
I think all kids go through that phase…
yeah I remember when I was a kid I bought this real cool looking iron cross necklace at the swap meet, it was shit canned two seconds after my father laid eyes on it.
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bolivar Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:34:49am |
re: #331 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Gonna do some ironing. Y’all need anything ironed?
I have a suit that needs to be cleaned - do you do windows too?
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avanti Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:34:55am |
re: #322 Walter L. Newton
No kidding, you wouldn’t care if he was fucking the world, just like your Savior, as long as you are sated.
Yep, you just about summed up everything you stand for, what we have known for months, what we have seen and heard from you in such “nuanced” ways, but you just slipped and yes, that was your own shit that you just slipped in.
You got all that from me choosing a good broker without checking to see what party he votes for ?
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:35:19am |
re: #333 Silvergirl
That too. Insomnia, firestarter. Not stimulus.
chop it up and eat it…. all the fiber ought to stimulate something. %-)
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:35:21am |
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jcm Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:35:31am |
re: #315 avanti
I have no idea, and don’t care as long as he makes me money.
What happen to spread the wealth? You greedy, unpatriotic…………
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WriterMom Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:35:43am |
re: #325 Ben Hur
I think it’s a crap sandwich smothered in pork that will have very little effect. It will make him very popular with the bloated, pork-ridden constituent beasts that he is feeding though.
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Silvergirl Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:35:44am |
re: #313 ziggyelman
Very nice! Am I reading it correctly? Went on Saturday, then passed the next day?
That’s the way I read it. He said Saturday and Sunday, without dates, so we can guess that they’re successive.
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Ben Hur Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:35:46am |
re: #340 redc1c4
oh, all those measures have had an effect: look at the market.
OK, so it’s not such a big deal for giving The One sh*t for spending so much leisure time.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:35:47am |
re: #285 Leonidas Hoplite
Not too mention that Hiroshima and Nagasaki porbably saved more Japanese lives than American.
Up-Ding! THAT is something which few have mentioned (and probably not even thought of.) The cost to Japan in military casualties would have been higher than our own, but the cost in civilian lives might have been greater. Japan’s infrastructure would have been destroyed, the cities would have starved, and — as they committed seppuku — Army jingoists would have congratulated themselves on their righteousness.
/Japan has not faced up to this yet
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:36:06am |
re: #332 realwest
Hell, how’s he gonna use military action to distract from his ineptitude so far? I don’t see him as any more competent in military matters than he is in social policy or financing!
Clinton did it, and I can see O trying the same. It didn’t work for Clinton either.
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brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:36:28am |
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realwest Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:37:13am |
re: #343 tfc3rid Yep. Better dressed, perhaps, but still street thugs nonetheless.
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:37:34am |
re: #356 Ben Hur
OK, so it’s not such a big deal for giving The One sh*t for spending so much leisure time.
i just wished he’d retired *before* taking office, not after.
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avanti Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:37:39am |
re: #329 redc1c4
say it a few more times, and even you might begin to believe it.
I’m confused, are you saying you pick your broker based on his/her politics, or are you just being disagreeable because I’m a leftie.
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Kenneth Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:38:30am |
re: #212 pink freud
What a touching story. Thank you for reposting it here.
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Miss Molly Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:38:45am |
jcm — “enemies List” coming up. And they may get so busy writing names down that maybe they won’t have to keep doing more damage to the country.
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:39:15am |
re: #365 avanti
I’m confused, are you saying you pick your broker based on his/her politics, or are you just being disagreeable because I’m a leftie.
look at your post: you quoted yourself twice.
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avanti Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:39:19am |
re: #353 jcm
What happen to spread the wealth? You greedy, unpatriotic…………
I’d love to get to that tax bracket, but never made that much money in my life.
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realwest Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:40:19am |
Well y’all it’s been grand - and as I indicated in my #176 above, a truly good interview by Charles - raised a lot of GREAT questions that I’m not sure have any answers!
But I gotta go eat lunch and all.
Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!
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doppelganglander Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:40:35am |
re: #208 subsailor68
Back in the 70’s, my wife worked in television news, first in Jacksonville, FL, then in San Diego, CA. It was right at the time that station owners started bringing in “news consultants” - who really didn’t know anything about news at all. They were the idiots who created the “happy news” concept that we’re still suffering from today. They also pushed the idea of advocacy journalism.
My wife, and tons of really qualified folks on both sides of the camera resigned in total disgust.
Are you married to Veronica Corningstone?!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:40:46am |
re: #365 avanti
You certainly get confused when plain unvarnished words are spoken to you. Enhanced Nuance is more to your understanding.
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brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:41:40am |
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:41:53am |
re: #339 Kosh’s Shadow
What? What are they going after him for? He isn’t Israeli.
No, he isn’t, but he probably met one once. Good enough.
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Caboose Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:42:37am |
re: #57 Erik The Red
Damn it Ford I don’t tear up easily. That story has done it twice today.
I’m right there with you, EtR. While I may be a crusty old curmudgeon, I have a soft spot for stories like that. ‘Scuze me while I go blow my nose… (My dad, Col. Big Bad Ben, USAF Ret., has been gone to that big air base in the sky for sixteen years now. I still miss him.)
| 377 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:43:21am |
re: #350 avanti
You got all that from me choosing a good broker without checking to see what party he votes for ?
No stupid, I got that from your cavalier attitude about how you see this country. You’re the one that made the dumb-assed statement, that you don’t care about what ever, as long as you make money.
Do you even have the smallest idea of how you come across to other people? No, of course not. You are the type of person that doesn’t even consider anything unless you see some plus that will benefit you.
And this, in total deference to any damage that your decisions or opinions will have for the rest of the world around you.
You’re gonna have a very lonely fucking ill-attended funeral when you finally snap off.
I know your type.
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Silvergirl Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:43:32am |
You know, we all watch movies where at least one actor in it is leftist. We shop at stores where the owners/management voted for Obama. It’s nice to give our support to those on “our side” when we can, but if I had a broker, I don’t think I would look into his politics first. Isn’t this tackle on Avanti a little overdone? Especially since he got punched last night as sucking on the gov’t teat (or words to that effect) just for having a Navy and Social Security retirement.
Kinder, gentler, anyone?
| 379 |
subsailor68 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:43:34am |
re: #372 doppelganglander
Are you married to Veronica Corningstone?!
LOL! Nope, and I ain’t even gonna say I wish I were - just in case my wife reads this.
;-)
| 380 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:45:10am |
re: #378 Silvergirl
You know, we all watch movies where at least one actor in it is leftist. We shop at stores where the owners/management voted for Obama. It’s nice to give our support to those on “our side” when we can, but if I had a broker, I don’t think I would look into his politics first. Isn’t this tackle on Avanti a little overdone? Especially since he got punched last night as sucking on the gov’t teat (or words to that effect) just for having a Navy and Social Security retirement.
Kinder, gentler, anyone?
Er, let’s consider for a moment what you you said. Moment over… NO.
| 381 |
redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:45:27am |
re: #377 Walter L. Newton
No stupid, I got that from your cavalier attitude about how you see this country. You’re the one that made the dumb-assed statement, that you don’t care about what ever, as long as you make money.
Do you even have the smallest idea of how you come across to other people? No, of course not. You are the type of person that doesn’t even consider anything unless you see some plus that will benefit you.
And this, in total deference to any damage that your decisions or opinions will have for the rest of the world around you.
You’re gonna have a very lonely fucking ill-attended funeral when you finally snap off.
I know your type.
those that do show up will eat asparagus before hand and be drinking water.
| 382 |
Kenneth Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:46:08am |
re: #363 WriterMom
The Orwellian word is “apartheid”.
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Cognito Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:46:32am |
re: #378 Silvergirl
Don’t worry about Avanti. People making those arguments — “But is your broker Republican?” — look transparently foolish.
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jcm Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:46:59am |
re: #370 avanti
I’d love to get to that tax bracket, but never made that much money in my life.
I work for the government 5 months out of 12.
Too much or not enough?
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:47:01am |
re: #378 Silvergirl
You know, we all watch movies where at least one actor in it is leftist. We shop at stores where the owners/management voted for Obama. It’s nice to give our support to those on “our side” when we can, but if I had a broker, I don’t think I would look into his politics first. Isn’t this tackle on Avanti a little overdone? Especially since he got punched last night as sucking on the gov’t teat (or words to that effect) just for having a Navy and Social Security retirement.
Kinder, gentler, anyone?
lets all sing a song:
“Hymn, Hymn, fuck hymn…….”
| 386 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:47:41am |
re: #381 redc1c4
those that do show up will eat asparagus before hand and be drinking water.
I don’t know what that means, but it doesn’t sound good.
| 387 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:48:27am |
re: #381 redc1c4
those that do show up will eat asparagus before hand and be drinking water.
He is actually making O appear humble and compassionate in comparison.
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:48:40am |
re: #378 Silvergirl
You know, we all watch movies where at least one actor in it is leftist. We shop at stores where the owners/management voted for Obama. It’s nice to give our support to those on “our side” when we can, but if I had a broker, I don’t think I would look into his politics first. Isn’t this tackle on Avanti a little overdone? Especially since he got punched last night as sucking on the gov’t teat (or words to that effect) just for having a Navy and Social Security retirement.
Kinder, gentler, anyone?
This doesn’t seem to be the place for “kinder” and “gentler” but I do agree. I don’t know about the thread last night, but if my broker was not out there trying to earn me every single cent he could, I would argue that he is not doing his job properly.
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DaddyG Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:48:53am |
re: #386 Walter L. Newton
I don’t know what that means, but it doesn’t sound good.
It doesn’t smell good either. Ba-bump-crash
| 390 |
WriterMom Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:49:08am |
re: #382 Kenneth
Losers. A hundred people? Big effing deal.
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avanti Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:49:35am |
re: #377 Walter L. Newton
You’re gonna have a very lonely fucking ill-attended funeral when you finally snap off.I know your type.
To be honest, if I’m dead, I won’t have a clue who showed up. Well, I take that back, I’ll at least have my Studebaker friends and the VFW guys. BTW, the VFW guys/gals are mostly on the right, but we treat each other with respect, even when we disagree. which is most of the time.
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HoosierHoops Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:49:42am |
re: #318 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Avanti seems to be pulling me toward the light that is 0bama.
/
NO No No..Don’t go towards the light Veggie!
/
| 393 |
redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:50:17am |
re: #386 Walter L. Newton
I don’t know what that means, but it doesn’t sound good.
it’s how i plan to get rich after Jane Traitor Fonda dies…. just set up a food cart outside the cemetery where they place her carcass, selling fresh steamed asparagus to all the Viet Nam vets who will be coming to visit her grave.
i’ll give them the water for free, as a fellow veteran.
| 394 |
Creeping Eruption Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:50:55am |
re: #393 redc1c4
it’s how i plan to get rich after Jane Traitor Fonda dies…. just set up a food cart outside the cemetery where they place her carcass, selling fresh steamed asparagus to all the Viet Nam vets who will be coming to visit her grave.
i’ll give them the water for free, as a fellow veteran.
Would that have something to do about pissing on her grave?
| 396 |
redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:51:33am |
re: #394 Creeping Eruption
Would that have something to do about pissing on her grave?
you catch on quick, grasshopper!
| 397 |
Silvergirl Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:52:09am |
re: #380 Walter L. Newton
Er, let’s consider for a moment what you you said. Moment over… NO.
When someone gets dogpiled, it should be for what they posted, not who they are. Who they are shows through in other posts often enough, and there are plenty of chances for attack.
| 398 |
redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:52:16am |
re: #395 buzzsawmonkey
You said the Secret Word! You win an extra $100, payable in Zimbabwe dollars.
and for only $5 billion US dollars, you can save the whole country!
| 399 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:52:56am |
re: #391 avanti
To be honest, if I’m dead, I won’t have a clue who showed up. Well, I take that back, I’ll at least have my Studebaker friends and the VFW guys. BTW, the VFW guys/gals are mostly on the right, but we treat each other with respect, even when we disagree. which is most of the time.
Typical Avanti. Don’t address my point, just the ad-hominem. Because you are incapable of answering me. I will post it again, minus the ad-hominem and see if you can debate me honestly.
No stupid, I got that from your cavalier attitude about how you see this country. You’re the one that made the dumb-assed statement, that you don’t care about what ever, as long as you make money.
Do you even have the smallest idea of how you come across to other people? No, of course not. You are the type of person that doesn’t even consider anything unless you see some plus that will benefit you.
And this, in total deference to any damage that your decisions or opinions will have for the rest of the world around you.
| 400 |
redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:52:58am |
re: #397 Silvergirl
When someone gets dogpiled, it should be for what they posted, not who they are. Who they are shows through in other posts often enough, and there are plenty of chances for attack.
i’d suggest that what they post shows who they are.
| 402 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:53:51am |
re: #397 Silvergirl
When someone gets dogpiled, it should be for what they posted, not who they are. Who they are shows through in other posts often enough, and there are plenty of chances for attack.
Gotcha, now back to Avanti.
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redc1c4 Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:54:14am |
i gotta go get something done today.
catch some of you on the LNDT, unless i get lured back sooner by the siren’s call.
/white smoke
| 404 |
Silvergirl Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:54:25am |
| 405 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:54:52am |
re: #378 Silvergirl
I’m not qualified to give an opinion re: the ruckus over Avanti’s posts … because I’ve deliberately ignored the offending posts and the retorts.
That said, I agree with you in principle. This is a tough room, but sometimes, some of us (*waving hand*) have made it tougher than reason would justify.
| 406 |
debutaunt Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:55:20am |
re: #123 brookly red
I still haven’t made up my mind about the death penalty yet (well OK preemptively it works) but life, full life, at hard labor, like breaking rocks in the hot sun works OK for me.
I’d also have him wearing a burka.
| 407 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:55:42am |
re: #397 Silvergirl
When someone gets dogpiled, it should be for what they posted, not who they are. Who they are shows through in other posts often enough, and there are plenty of chances for attack.
So now you are the Official Thread Censor, approving of what can or can’t be posted? And making the determinant of why someone said what they said?
| 408 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:56:19am |
| 409 |
Silvergirl Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:56:58am |
re: #407 FurryOldGuyJeans
So now you are the Official Thread Censor, approving of what can or can’t be posted? And making the determinant of why someone said what they said?
Do I have a right, though I’m pretty new around here, to have an opinion?
| 410 |
Creeping Eruption Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:57:13am |
re: #408 brookly red
kinky.
“Burka” and “kinky” - two words I never thought I would see in conjunction with each other.
| 411 |
Cognito Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:57:42am |
re: #407 FurryOldGuyJeans
So now you are the Official Thread Censor, approving of what can or can’t be posted? And making the determinant of why someone said what they said?
Don’t be a moron.
Seriously.
Sometimes the eager claims to victimhood around here would seem right at home in the mouths of Al Sharpton or any representative of CAIR.
Toughen up.
| 412 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:57:53am |
re: #409 Silvergirl
Do I have a right, though I’m pretty new around here, to have an opinion?
You have every right.
| 413 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:58:10am |
re: #409 Silvergirl
Do I have a right, though I’m pretty new around here, to have an opinion?
You certainly do have a right to an opinion, just don’t think you won’t get challenged. This is a tough room and you have to be prepared to defend yourself.
| 414 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:58:29am |
re: #410 Creeping Eruption
“Burka” and “kinky” - two words I never thought I would see in conjunction with each other.
/what part of the word submit did you not undrestand?
| 415 |
Cognito Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:58:42am |
re: #413 FurryOldGuyJeans
You certainly do have a right to an opinion, just don’t think you won’t get challenged. This is a tough room and you have to be prepared to defend yourself.
You’re the one acting like a crybaby, not Silvergirl.
| 416 |
DaddyG Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:59:26am |
re: #410 Creeping Eruption
“Burka” and “kinky” - two words I never thought I would see in conjunction with each other.
Just add “Goat” and you have “Girls Gone Wild Afganistan”.
| 417 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:59:40am |
re: #411 Cognito
Highly ironic you spouting about claims to victimhood since you you make that claim a lot.
| 418 |
Cognito Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:00:01pm |
re: #417 FurryOldGuyJeans
Highly ironic you spouting about claims to victimhood since you you make that claim a lot.
I’m sure you’ll cite an example.
| 419 |
DaddyG Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:01:16pm |
It is starting to sound like Rush vs. Steele II in here.
| 420 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:03:55pm |
re: #416 DaddyG
Just add “Goat” and you have “Girls Gone Wild Afganistan”.
just on GPs I Googled “burka, kinky, goat”… do NOT go there.
| 421 |
avanti Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:04:37pm |
re: #409 Silvergirl
Do I have a right, though I’m pretty new around here, to have an opinion?
I appreciate your opinion, but don’t get tossed into the pit with me. It is nice to know that there some them are willing to disagree, without being disagreeable, but don’t set yourself up for attack. I’m the Stranger in a Strange Land and expect some flack.
| 422 |
Creeping Eruption Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:05:47pm |
re: #419 DaddyG
It is starting to sound like Rush vs. Steele II in here.
Time for Celebrity Cage Match?
| 423 |
bolivar Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:05:51pm |
re: #419 DaddyG
I got popcorn - anybody got the asparagus and spring water? This could be interesting and then during intermission we can “water” the grass or something right? Jane Fonda is not on my list of approved actors so won’t be paying money for ANY movie she is in. Still hear from time to time about the stickers of her picture they stick in urinals in VFW halls - have actually seen one and of course contributed to the cause.
| 424 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:06:35pm |
re: #421 avanti
I appreciate your opinion, but don’t get tossed into the pit with me. It is nice to know that there some them are willing to disagree, without being disagreeable, but don’t set yourself up for attack. I’m the Stranger in a Strange Land and expect some flack.
hope you are sitting down… you just got an upding.
| 425 |
avanti Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:06:59pm |
| 426 |
avanti Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:07:38pm |
re: #424 brookly red
hope you are sitting down… you just got an upding.
Holy crap, alert the MSN. :)
| 427 |
HoosierHoops Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:08:36pm |
re: #407 FurryOldGuyJeans
So now you are the Official Thread Censor, approving of what can or can’t be posted? And making the determinant of why someone said what they said?
Hey..In the bail-out package there are plenty of thread censor positions that will be created..and the jobs are Green! [Link: wwweeeeee!…]
| 429 |
Ben Hur Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:12:27pm |
Does censoring the censoror make you a censororor? And what if you censor the consorororororor?
| 430 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:13:37pm |
re: #429 Ben Hur
Does censoring the censoror make you a censororor? And what if you censor the consorororororor?
a bureaucrat.
| 431 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:16:11pm |
re: #428 Iron Fist
I’ll take your word for it. Right after 9-11 there was a model (a black chick) who did a photo-shoot in the full headscarf Mohammedan gang-colors bullshit.
And that was all she wore. It was a huge slap at the Mohammedans, not to mention a nice sight for sore eyes. I can’t remember her name, though.
No goats were
molestedharmed in the making of said pictures :-)
/after the shoot the rap party was a BBQ…
| 432 |
debutaunt Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:16:51pm |
re: #139 buzzsawmonkey
If the papers keep faltering, we may actually find out whether no news is good news.
ahahahahhahahahahahhahahahaaa
| 433 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:19:22pm |
In her #378 Silvergirl asked, “Isn’t this tackle on Avanti a little overdone?”
I’m staking out a position in the middle, unrelated to Avanti’s posts prior to the one about his broker putting him “back in.”
Silvergirl’s question was appropriate, and worth of reflection.
I’ve given my caveat in my #405. I disagree (sometimes strongly) with Avanti’s political views. However, I don’t recall even Killgore The Contrarian being hammered the way Avanti has been.
I . am . just . saying .
| 434 |
Picayune Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:25:23pm |
re: #200 lawhawk
For a personal account of the war in the Philippians and the Bataan Death March, I recommend this from a man I have known who survived the ordeal, and kicked ass through it all - “I Came Back From Bataan” , see it here:[Link: www.amazon.com…]
In the end, while in an abandoned POW camp in Japan, he saw the Enola Gay flying overhead - heading west!
I also knew the man that “Mr. Roberts” (book, bway play, & Full length feature w/ Fonda/Lemon) was based on.
These heroes were giants, like so many previous American citizens.
I just pray that we, and the generations of Americans to come can summon the courage and moral integrity displayed by the Greatest Generation, when the time comes, and it may be more near than we would like to believe.
(excellent interview by CJ, its the bias more than techno change)
| 435 |
debutaunt Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:29:05pm |
re: #433 pre-Boomer Marine brat
In her #378 Silvergirl asked, “Isn’t this tackle on Avanti a little overdone?”
I’m staking out a position in the middle, unrelated to Avanti’s posts prior to the one about his broker putting him “back in.”
Silvergirl’s question was appropriate, and worth of reflection.
I’ve given my caveat in my #405. I disagree (sometimes strongly) with Avanti’s political views. However, I don’t recall even Killgore The Contrarian being hammered the way Avanti has been.
I . am . just . saying .
I’m positive that Killgore is actually a pastafarian, not at all a contrarian, sir.
| 437 |
Unakite Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:43:02pm |
re: #25 Killgore Trout
OT: I know it’s HuffPo but…..
Red States Gobble Up Omnibus Earmarks
Hey, if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em.
/
| 438 |
wiffersnapper Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:48:32pm |
I finally get to see what Charles looks like!
| 439 |
Unakite Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:49:47pm |
re: #107 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I let the subscription on my newspaper lapse. A month later, I got a letter (hand addressed) from the paper asking me to renew.
The envelope was hand addressed. Can you believe that?
They have time to do that when there aren’t that many people to write too anymore. Plus, probably got rid of the computer and printer because of budget problems.
| 440 |
bolivar Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:56:17pm |
re: #434 Picayune
Sorry, $83 is just out of the budget right now but will look in library system for it. Thanks for the info.
| 441 |
Kenneth Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:57:46pm |
| 442 |
Picayune Wed, Mar 4, 2009 1:02:52pm |
re: #440 bolivar
Oops, my error, I had not noted the $. I received my copy by way of the author. Good read, though.
| 443 |
Promethea Wed, Mar 4, 2009 2:14:08pm |
re: #126 vxbush
I’m just going to dump an idea out of my brain, and it hasn’t been well formulated, so take this with a huge grain of salt:
Some seem to have this assumption that liberals are more technically savvy, and liberals have been the ones to get on the Internet first: Amazon, Google, eBay, etc. etc. (No idea of the political leanings of each of those organizations.)
And Yet….
The bastion of liberal, democrat thought, newspapers, haven’t kept up with the technology. Sure, they have websites, but the websites really offer nothing *different* from the newspapers. It’s not an additional service, it’s just a different venue—sort of like how the local TV station and the newspaper get together to produce some stories that are presented in both media. It’s not new, and it’s certainly not better.
The thing I see that blogs do that newspapers cannot is take personal ability in each topic and shine light on the news stories of the day with regard to each person’s speciality. They are also much better about having a blog train citing their own blog or others that give background, more analysis, or other related stories that newspapers just don’t seem to do. The subject matter expertise, together with historical context or linking information, is what often puts a blog above any newspaper.
The collective knowledge of the people who post on this blog is enormous. I’ve learned so much just from reading LGF comments and links. I’m also trying to understand the financial crisis via Belmont Club, Just One Minute, and Ace of Spades and some other blogs. For daily world news, I usually check out Gateway Pundit.
My local paper—the Chicago Tribune—is a sick joke. I read it while I eat dinner for “Mutts” and a few other comics and for the latest info on stupid “celebrities” (I’ve never seen most of them in performance) so I don’t spill on my computer.
If my husband didn’t want the Trib, I wouldn’t subscribe at all.
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Why Did More Than 1,000 People Die After Police Subdued Them With Force That Isn’t Meant to Kill? An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that, over a decade, more than 1,000 people died after police subdued them through physical holds, stun guns, body blows and other force not intended to be lethal. More: Why ... Cheechako
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The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ... Cheechako
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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
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