Creation Vacations to Evolution HQ

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Here’s a creationist movement of which we can heartily approve: Creationist Students Take Trip to Evolution Headquarters: The Smithsonian.

Every winter, David DeWitt takes his biology class to the Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History, but for a purpose far different from that of other professors.

DeWitt brings his Advanced Creation Studies [Good grief. – ed.] class (CRST 390, Origins) up from Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va., hoping to strengthen his students’ belief in a biblical view of natural history, even in the lion’s den of evolution.

His yearly visit to the Smithsonian is part of a wider movement by creationists to confront Darwinism in some of its most redoubtable secular strongholds. As scientists celebrate the 200th anniversary of Charles Darwin’s birth, his doubters are taking themselves on Genesis-based tours of natural history museums, aquariums, geologic sites and even dinosaur parks.

“There’s nothing balanced here. It’s completely, 100 percent evolution-based,” said DeWitt, a professor of biology. “We come every year, because I don’t hold anything back from the students.” …

Like the Liberty students, avowed creationists across the country are making a practice of challenging the conventional wisdom at zoos (questioning the evolutionary explanation of giraffe necks), the Grand Canyon (dating the rock layers in thousands, not millions, of years), and cave parks (describing the formations as evidence of rapid drainage after the Great Flood).

In the upcoming issue of Answers, a leading magazine of the young-Earth movement, the list of “creation vacations” includes the Lowell Observatory in Arizona, the New England Aquarium in Boston and London’s Natural History Museum.

“Why should we be afraid to test our worldview against reality?” asked Bill Jack, a Christian leadership instructor who leads groups across the country for a company called Biblically Correct Tours. “If Christianity is true, it better be true in the natural history museums and in the zoos.”

Why do we approve of this? Well, it isn’t what the creationists intend, but maybe one of these students will learn something that breaks through the anti-science brainwashing. Or maybe not.

Near the end of the “Evolution Trail,” the class showed no signs of being swayed by the polished, enthusiastic presentation of Darwin’s theory. They were surprised, though, by the bronze statue of man’s earliest mammalian ancestor.

“A rat?” exclaimed Amanda Runions, a 21-year-old biochemistry major, when she saw the model of a morganucodon, a rodent-like ancient mammal that curators have dubbed Grandma Morgie. “All this hype for a rat? You’re expecting, like, at least an ape.”

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1323 comments
1 zombie  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:38:32pm

"Advanced Creation Studies" = evolution.

2 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:39:03pm
“A rat?” exclaimed Amanda Runions, a 21-year-old biochemistry major

They're always in biochemistry.

3 zombie  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:39:06pm

Charles Darwin founded the field of "Advanced Creation Studies."

4 screaming_eagle  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:39:28pm

The Magical Mystery Tour?

5 Shug  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:40:13pm
In the upcoming issue of Answers, a leading magazine of the young-Earth movement, the list of “creation vacations” includes the Lowell Observatory in Arizona, the New England Aquarium in Boston and London’s Natural History Museum.

I think they need to begin their vacation at Creedmore State mental hospital

6 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:40:28pm
“Why should we be afraid to test our worldview against reality?”

So- he's admitting they deny reality?

7 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:41:12pm

David DeWitt's group is easy to spot. They're the ones with their heads up their ass.

8 Shug  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:41:45pm

Don't they make Jack Daniels in Lynchburg?

/ just sayin'

9 Shug  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:42:43pm

for the previous thread

Shuttle now to Launch on the 16th

10 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:43:10pm
the Grand Canyon (dating the rock layers in thousands, not millions, of years), and cave parks (describing the formations as evidence of rapid drainage after the Great Flood).

Noah's flood did happen. It was localized, however.

11 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:43:44pm
12 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:45:42pm
You’re expecting, like, at least an ape.

The quote could be out of context.
That said, her phrasing indicates ... heh ... subjectivity.

/this wasn't a field trip for the sake of honest scientific enquiry

13 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:46:16pm
14 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:46:17pm

I hear Mr. Dewitt also takes a Noah's Ark study group to the Virginia In-Water Boat Expo every fall.

15 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:46:24pm

Apparently some people haven't evolved past the rat.

16 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:46:36pm

There are groups that travel to Utah to study Mormons. But not with the Mormons. You get my drift.

17 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:46:49pm

Charles, why do you hate the Smithsonian?

18 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:47:04pm
Biblically Correct Tours

Oh brother.

19 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:47:08pm

re: #8 Shug

Don't they make Jack Daniels in Lynchburg?

/ just sayin'

Lynchburg, Tennessee.

20 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:47:36pm

Creation Vacation sounds like a bad sex-ed film.

21 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:47:53pm

re: #11 buzzsawmonkey

Was thinking the same thing. I don't think that tactic will serve them well, though.

22 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:49:54pm

not much explanation why they came to the Smith....something about 'balance'...right...they went there because it is the coolest museum in the world...if the dis it they will become my dire enemy....I am a HUGE Smithsonian fan....beware you stupid apes

23 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:50:14pm

I would love to go to the zoo while there were creationists there challenging the zoologists. I'd have a couple of uncomfortable questions for them to answer such as "explain sexual dimorphisms" and "explain hiccups, hernias and embryology."

24 opnion  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:50:37pm

These are smart kids, that professor is playing with fire.

25 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:50:40pm

re: #14 HelloDare

I hear Mr. Dewitt also takes a Noah's Ark study group to the Virginia In-Water Boat Expo every fall.

exactly

26 Shug  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:51:14pm

re: #23 Sharmuta

I would love to go to the zoo while there were creationists there challenging the zoologists. I'd have a couple of uncomfortable questions for them to answer such as "explain sexual dimorphisms" and "explain hiccups, hernias and embryology."

explain Tinky Winky

27 DEZes  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:51:18pm

re: #6 Sharmuta

So- he's admitting they deny reality?


He certainly said it!
Bong hits for Jesus.

28 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:52:01pm

The Smithsonian should reciprocate and take a group down to visit Mr. Dewitt at Liberty University to see atavism in action.

29 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:52:01pm
At the Smithsonian, officials said they were unaware of any organized visits by avowed creationists but said they are welcome. Still, all visitors should come knowing that the museum -- like all mainstream natural history institutions -- is fundamentally Darwinian, said spokesman Randall Kremer.

Those scary Darwinian Fundamentalists! I hear they speak with their tongues.

30 Rob with a mind  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:52:28pm

I saw a billboard sign that said:


NEED HELP, CALL JESUS
[no phone numbers allowed]

Out of curiosity, I did.


An illegal alien showed up with a lawnmower.

31 Soona'  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:52:32pm

re: #22 albusteve

not much explanation why they came to the Smith....something about 'balance'...right...they went there because it is the coolest museum in the world...if the dis it they will become my dire enemy....I am a HUGE Smithsonian fan....beware you stupid apes

I've never been to the Smithsonian. If or when I do visit, I'll probably spend most of my time in the air and space or transportation parts.

32 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:52:40pm

re: #8 Shug

Don't they make Jack Daniels in Lynchburg?

/ just sayin'

Wrong Lynchburg....Jack's made in Lynchburg, TN, Liberty University is in Lynchburg, VA.

33 Shug  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:52:52pm

re: #9 Shug

for the previous thread

Shuttle now to Launch on the 16th

Now they don't know when it's going to launch. It's a real mess

34 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:53:20pm

re: #31 Soona'

I've never been to the Smithsonian. If or when I do visit, I'll probably spend most of my time in the air and space or transportation parts.

oh man...I'm speechless

35 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:53:28pm

re: #30 Rob with a mind

I saw a billboard sign that said:

NEED HELP, CALL JESUS
[no phone numbers allowed]

Out of curiosity, I did.

An illegal alien showed up with a lawnmower.

He does exist!

36 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:53:30pm

re: #20 acwgusa

Creation Vacation sounds like a bad sex-ed film.

Procreation Porn.

37 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:53:48pm

re: #23 Sharmuta

I'd have a couple of uncomfortable questions for them to answer such as "explain sexual dimorphisms"...

Which would make you think less of me, that I had to look that up, or that I was disappointed that it wasn't dirty?

38 Racer X  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:53:56pm

God created everything a long time ago. We have been evolving ever since.

Its not that hard to get.

39 Shug  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:54:08pm

re: #20 acwgusa

Creation Vacation sounds like a bad sex-ed film.

Conjunction junction
What's your function

40 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:54:28pm

Lynchburg, Virginia, where they brew Jack Daniels, in a dry county?
That Lynchburg, Virginia?

/tolerance.......

41 laxmatt1984  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:54:40pm

For Liberty U.

42 laxmatt1984  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:55:22pm

re: #40 IslandLibertarian

Lynchburg, Tennessee. Not Virginia

43 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:55:25pm

re: #40 IslandLibertarian

Lynchburg, Virginia, where they brew Jack Daniels, in a dry county?
That Lynchburg, Virginia?

/tolerance.......

yes

44 slartybartfast  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:55:26pm

You know, I don't look at a legal contract and say, "That doesn't rhyme, it has no meter, no imagery...that is really poor poetry."

Why then to some people try to convince themselves that sacred writing is actually a science text?

You get my drift?

45 DEZes  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:55:45pm

re: #40 IslandLibertarian

Tennessee! but yes it is s dry County.

46 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:55:52pm

re: #43 albusteve

yes

whoops....no

47 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:55:58pm

I've never been to the Smithsonian. Do they have a display of human-like fossils? I would have to assume they do. How do creationists explain them?

48 Wild Knight  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:56:33pm

Good Grief! Professors of Biology? Biochemistry majors? What kind of degrees are these? The Pope would cry if he knew.

49 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:56:42pm

re: #41 laxmatt1984

Give me Liberty or give me a good education.

50 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:57:29pm

re: #47 Sharmuta

Mutations from the Winter. No, wait, the Fall.

51 Russkilitlover  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:57:33pm

re: #31 Soona'

I've never been to the Smithsonian. If or when I do visit, I'll probably spend most of my time in the air and space or transportation parts.

You can spend a week in all the museums and not see everything. The air and space museum has moved a bit out of town to much bigger space and takes a full day, if not more, to see/experience.

52 screaming_eagle  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:57:41pm

re: #47 Sharmuta

I've never been to the Smithsonian. Do they have a display of human-like fossils? I would have to assume they do. How do creationists explain them?

The Smithsonian has everything. It's huge, like 2 dozen different buildings.

53 Shug  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:57:44pm

Young-earthers are the new Flat-earthers

54 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:57:57pm

re: #23 Sharmuta

I would love to go to the zoo while there were creationists there challenging the zoologists. I'd have a couple of uncomfortable questions for them to answer such as "explain sexual dimorphisms" and "explain hiccups, hernias and embryology."

1) G-d did it
2) G-d did it
3) G-d did it
"Please come again! Tell your friends!"

55 laxmatt1984  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:58:25pm

re: #47 Sharmuta

The natural history museum is actually pretty weak, especially the dinosaurs and fossils section. The area is still has a 70's color scheme.

I'm pretty sure they planning to renovate large chunks of the museum, though.

56 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:58:25pm

re: #51 Russkilitlover

You can spend a week in all the museums and not see everything. The air and space museum has moved a bit out of town to much bigger space and takes a full day, if not more, to see/experience.

the original A and S is there.....?

57 Sparkizzy  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:58:32pm
58 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:58:58pm

re: #37 Slumbering Behemoth

Which would make you think less of me, that I had to look that up, or that I was disappointed that it wasn't dirty?

No- I'm not disappointed. I think it's cool I could mention something and someone would take the time to look up what I'm talking about and learn something. I certainly would have needed to look up "sexual dimorphisms" a couple of weeks ago, but the cool thing about having an inquisitive mind is that one is willing to learn. I'm enjoying learning more and more about evolution and I'm glad I could pass on any of the information I've come across.

59 Soona'  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:59:03pm

re: #51 Russkilitlover

You can spend a week in all the museums and not see everything. The air and space museum has moved a bit out of town to much bigger space and takes a full day, if not more, to see/experience.

That's where I want to go. I'll stay as long as it takes.

60 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:59:06pm

re: #52 screaming_eagle

The Smithsonian has everything. It's huge, like 2 dozen different buildings.

One of my brothers used to work there. The best tours are apparently in the back rooms.

61 Wild Knight  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:59:16pm

Dear Lord, I admit that when I read Daniel Dennett's "Darwin's Dangerous Idea", I was afflicted by some doubt about some epistemological implications of the argument Dennett pushes through. But Young Earth Creationists? The Grand Canyon thousands of years old? The Great Flood in America? Deucalion would cry if he knew.

62 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 3:59:49pm

re: #42 laxmatt1984

Lynchburg, Tennessee. Not Virginia

I never bothered to read the label too closely..........hated bourbon anyway..........

63 Sean  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:00:05pm

If I may point out that the Smithsonian engages in revisionist history:

Enola Gay Controversy

Thank you Harry Truman, for having the guts to save my Dad from invading Japan!

64 Russkilitlover  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:00:07pm

re: #59 Soona'

That's where I want to go. I'll stay as long as it takes.

The Shuttle simulator is Da Bomb!

65 laxmatt1984  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:00:10pm

re: #51 Russkilitlover

Yes, the Dulles Air and Space Museum is one of the very best museums I have ever been to. Anyone going to DC should definitely schedule a day to get out there, it's worth it.

66 njdhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:00:26pm

re: #20 acwgusa

Creation Vacation sounds like a bad sex-ed film.

I thought it was the next Chevy Chase movie.

67 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:00:45pm

re: #55 laxmatt1984

The natural history museum is actually pretty weak, especially the dinosaurs and fossils section. The area is still has a 70's color scheme.

I'm pretty sure they planning to renovate large chunks of the museum, though.

So other museums are better, like NY or Chicago?

68 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:00:50pm

re: #55 laxmatt1984

The natural history museum is actually pretty weak, especially the dinosaurs and fossils section. The area is still has a 70's color scheme.

I'm pretty sure they planning to renovate large chunks of the museum, though.

it is a huge undertaking...the History museum was closed for almost two years for a redo...aside from that the Smithsonian is a destination in and of itself...a must see for everybody...the A and S is utterly mind boggling

69 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:01:22pm

re: #58 Sharmuta

Bummer. I was hoping for a slap and a derisive stare. I can't get any excitement today.
/

70 Racer X  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:01:25pm

re: #62 IslandLibertarian

..........hated bourbon anyway..........

*shudder*

71 laxmatt1984  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:01:40pm

re: #64 Russkilitlover

Don't know what the Smithsonian has done with the Enola Gay in the past, but its current spot at Dulles is very tasteful. Very dramatic, ominous lighting.

72 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:01:43pm

re: #57 Sparkizzy

OT

Talks with Taliban moderates 'worth exploring': Biden

Taliban say Obama's call on moderates "illogical"

How can that BE?! They're not being nice! It's not right!
/

Biden meeting with the Taliban would be great. He'd probably come back with a time-share in Rawalpindi and tell us what a great deal he got.

73 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:01:54pm

re: #62 IslandLibertarian

I never bothered to read the label too closely..........hated bourbon anyway..........

It's NOT bourbon. It's sour mash. Big difference.

74 laxmatt1984  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:02:08pm

re: #67 Sharmuta

For natural history, yes. The Smithsonian is free, though.

75 Soona'  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:02:14pm

re: #57 Sparkizzy

OT

Talks with Taliban moderates 'worth exploring': Biden


Taliban say Obama's call on moderates "illogical"

How can that BE?! They're not being nice! It's not right!
/

The zero will send a strongly worded letter telling the taliban to free the moderate terrorists.

76 njdhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:02:47pm

re: #67 Sharmuta

So other museums are better, like NY or Chicago?

When I was a kid my dad took me to a NY museum to see a moon rock brought back by the astronauts. It was way cool.

77 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:02:56pm

re: #60 wrenchwench

One of my brothers used to work there. The best tours are apparently in the back rooms.

That could be taken many ways.

78 Soona'  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:02:59pm

re: #63 Sean

If I may point out that the Smithsonian engages in revisionist history:

Enola Gay Controversy

Thank you Harry Truman, for having the guts to save my Dad from invading Japan!

Ditto!

79 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:03:12pm

re: #57 Sparkizzy

To paraphrase: No, no, fuck the Taliban.

80 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:03:20pm

re: #67 Sharmuta

So other museums are better, like NY or Chicago?

the Field Museum is world renowned...tough call and of course the Met in NYC puts any art museum to shame in this country altho there again the art museum in Chicago is right up there

81 Russkilitlover  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:03:53pm

Not quite On Topic, but it is Natural History museum related - I am going to see the Body Works show at the San Diego Nat His museum this weekend. Has anyone else seen it at other museums?

82 clgood  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:04:26pm

She was worried about the rat? Wait until she learns that if you look even farther back we were a fish.

83 laxmatt1984  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:04:40pm

re: #81 Russkilitlover

Yes, and it is mind blowing.

Have fun.

84 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:04:47pm

re: #76 njdhockeyfan

When I was a kid my dad took me to a NY museum to see a moon rock brought back by the astronauts. It was way cool.

And my grandfather took me to Chicago where we hit 4 scientific attractions in one day. My favorite was the planetarium.

85 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:05:44pm

re: #82 clgood

She was worried about the rat? Wait until she learns that if you look even farther back we were a fish.

Pull my fin!

86 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:05:48pm

re: #8 Shug

It's a dry county.

/Go figure

87 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:05:51pm

re: #57 Sparkizzy

OT

Talks with Taliban moderates 'worth exploring': Biden

Taliban say Obama's call on moderates "illogical"

How can that BE?! They're not being nice! It's not right!
/


Strong in Biden the stupid is. Herh herh herh. --Yoda

88 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:06:26pm

he is taking the students to the smithsonian only because he has them so indoctrinated he knows he can use real science and knowledge to his advantage.
and push the students further backwards.
it makes me so uncomfortable to even think abt. this field trip and the treacherous motivation behind it.
these students have truth in front of them and they are mocking it.

89 Sparkizzy  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:06:43pm

re: #75 Soona'

The zero will send a strongly worded letter telling the taliban to free the moderate terrorists.

And the U.N will follow with 2 more. THAT should get their attention.

No wait, they'll threaten to send a threatening letter.

90 clgood  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:07:25pm

Speaking of good museums, one that's off the beaten path and nothing fancy is the Johnson Farm Dinosaur Tracks museum in St. George, Utah. What's cool about it is seeing dinosaur tracks from about 200 million years ago. Yes, I mean before the Jurassic. You can see the texture of the dino's skin in some places.

91 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:07:43pm

re: #88 nyc redneck

he is taking the students to the smithsonian only because he has them so indoctrinated he knows he can use real science and knowledge to his advantage.
and push the students further backwards.
it makes me so uncomfortable to even think abt. this field trip and the treacherous motivation behind it.
these students have truth in front of them and they are mocking it.

on your dime

92 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:07:49pm

re: #13 buzzsawmonkey

Actually- I highly enjoyed the program and recommend it to anyone interested to see what happens when real science and the Bible meet.

93 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:08:04pm

OT

A bucket of piss on the mavens of finance.

94 Soona'  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:08:11pm

Nice talking with everyone today. See ya' later.

95 laxmatt1984  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:09:02pm

re: #31 Soona'

Avoid the Air and Space Museum on the Mall. Way too crowded and all the best pieces have been relocated to Dulles. The new American history museum is fantastic, the art museums are fantastic (the galleries hidden behind the Castle are the best - always empty), the Hirshorn is fantastic, and the American Indian museum is a fine study of gift shops. The Holocaust museum is also a must see, but not actually a part of the Smithsonian system.

96 quickjustice  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:09:07pm

re: #8 Shug

I've been to Lynchburg, TN. It's in a dry county.

97 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:09:31pm

re: #90 clgood

Speaking of good museums, one that's off the beaten path and nothing fancy is the Johnson Farm Dinosaur Tracks museum in St. George, Utah. What's cool about it is seeing dinosaur tracks from about 200 million years ago. Yes, I mean before the Jurassic. You can see the texture of the dino's skin in some places.

That is so cool!

98 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:09:39pm

I wonder how creationists explain the growth rings of corals.

99 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:09:44pm

re: #95 laxmatt1984

Avoid the Air and Space Museum on the Mall. Way too crowded and all the best pieces have been relocated to Dulles. The new American history museum is fantastic, the art museums are fantastic (the galleries hidden behind the Castle are the best - always empty), the Hirshorn is fantastic, and the American Indian museum is a fine study of gift shops. The Holocaust museum is also a must see, but not actually a part of the Smithsonian system.

the Flyer is out at Dulles?

100 Racer X  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:09:55pm
101 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:10:12pm

re: #63 Sean

My dad flew P-38s in the Pacific theater.

He and his pilot buddies to a man did not expect to survive the invasion of the Japanese home islands.

102 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:10:36pm

re: #95 laxmatt1984

For those in "flyover country", the SAC Museum in Nebraska is also incredible.

103 quickjustice  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:10:37pm

re: #40 IslandLibertarian

To repeat, Jack Daniels is distilled in Lynchburg ,TN, which is in Moore County. Moore County is a dry county.

104 DEZes  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:10:53pm

re: #98 Sharmuta

I wonder how creationists explain the growth rings of corals.


I wonder how they explain the cement in their heads.

105 laxmatt1984  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:10:59pm

re: #99 albusteve

yup

106 callahan23  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:11:05pm
“Why should we be afraid to test our worldview (fantasy!) against reality?” asked Bill Jack, a Christian leadership instructor who leads groups across the country for a company called Biblically Correct Tours.


There you have it.
It is fact what science has discovered with and through evolution. That dumb-ass says it himself.
A WORLDVIEW is nothing more than a construct of the brain. Other such constructs are: fantasy, fiction, religion, theorems and delusions of all kind (in no particular order).
Things in the reality are fact based, proven and double checked theories.

107 quickjustice  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:11:43pm

Well props to the Sunday School class for venturing into Satan's Lair for a few short hours! ;-)

108 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:11:58pm

re: #102 Sharmuta

For those in "flyover country", the SAC Museum in Nebraska is also incredible.

great museums are everywhere...you have to find them tho....the Bill Cody Museum in Wyoming is just fantastic for Am west history

109 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:12:34pm

Museum thread! I was at the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History last November. They've got some interesting new exhibits in the ocean section, but it's very hard to maneuver around. It's like trying to get through Wal-Mart with all the exhibit cases and signs at weird angles to one another. It was also insanely crowded the weekend before Thanksgiving.

110 laxmatt1984  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:12:49pm

re: #99 albusteve

Wait, the Wright Flyer or Burt Rutan's Flyer?

111 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:13:04pm

re: #105 laxmatt1984

yup

I thought that was going to be just an annex for the overflow...I did not know that

112 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:13:30pm

re: #110 laxmatt1984

Wait, the Wright Flyer or Burt Rutan's Flyer?

the Wright Flyer

113 Racer X  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:13:57pm
114 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:14:32pm

re: #108 albusteve

great museums are everywhere...you have to find them tho....the Bill Cody Museum in Wyoming is just fantastic for Am west history

I would love to take a drive West for a vacation. A Lizard "Travel Guide" would be a good idea for a book!

115 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:14:33pm

re: #88 nyc redneck

he is taking the students to the smithsonian only because he has them so indoctrinated he knows he can use real science and knowledge to his advantage.
and push the students further backwards.
it makes me so uncomfortable to even think abt. this field trip and the treacherous motivation behind it.
these students have truth in front of them and they are mocking it.

NYC Redneck:
aha!

we've been found out.

116 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:14:45pm
117 quickjustice  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:14:53pm

re: #73 MandyManners

Technically, Jack Daniels is Tennessee Sipping Whiskey because of the charcoal filtration process. IIRC, George Dickel is the only other distiller that has this distinction. Both products are made with corn mash.

118 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:15:27pm

A rat! Like omg, I was like expecting like an ape or something... u call like a rat a challenge to my scientific faith?

Where are the monkeys I did not evolve from! I mean like gross totally! How could anyone believe we came from something as disgusting as a monkey! Don't you know we came from dirt and were born wallowing in original sin!?! That is like sooooo much more dignified!

And like who said rocks are like old and stuff anyway! Those scientists don't know how to carbon date anything! I mean like, if God made the Earth like not fully formed and all, everything would like die from the magma! I mean like how stupid are u? Well, I do not really think you are stupid, only your belief in following the whore of Babylon into hell. But, that's like your choice. When the end comes, I'll like be whisked away in the rapture and then you will not be so smug and scientific!

Let's see you use all that math to get u out of HELL!

I can only like pray for you. I love you even if you are a sinner and you believe in like evolution which causes nazis and the abomination of homoism.

////

119 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:16:13pm

re: #114 Bloodnok

I would love to take a drive West for a vacation. A Lizard "Travel Guide" would be a good idea for a book!

I've tromped all over out here...let me know if you need some ideas...the West is where it's at....

120 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:16:18pm
121 dedalus  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:16:34pm
Before heading back to Lynchburg each year, DeWitt makes a point of stopping by the Jefferson Memorial. The quotes on the wall there (his favorite: "Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God?") make for a better ending to the trip than the secular shades of the museum, he said.

It is ironic that DeWitt uses the Jefferson Memorial as a counterbalance to the museum. Jefferson adhered to a rational examination of the natural world as a source of understanding its creator, as opposed to searching for clues revealed to us via scripture.

122 laxmatt1984  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:16:54pm

re: #112 albusteve

Oh, that's in the DC Air and Space.

Here's the wiki for the Dulles Air and Space. I live just outside DC and go to the Smithsonian regularly. Believe me, if you ever visit DC schedule a day to go to this place. It's way better than the Air and Space on the mall.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

123 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:17:20pm

re: #117 quickjustice

Technically, Jack Daniels is Tennessee Sipping Whiskey because of the charcoal filtration process. IIRC, George Dickel is the only other distiller that has this distinction. Both products are made with corn mash.


Yum!

But, I am a Springbank 15 man or a Lagavulin :)

124 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:17:27pm

re: #119 albusteve

I've tromped all over out here...let me know if you need some ideas...the West is where it's at....

In the US I've never been west of Lake Placid, NY.

125 callahan23  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:17:53pm

Thanks {Sharm}!
Just checked now that you said the same in a way more succinct fashion in your

re: #6 Sharmuta

comment.

126 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:17:57pm

re: #118 ludwigvanquixote

heh

Gag you with a spoon, fer sure, fer sure.

127 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:18:40pm

re: #126 pre-Boomer Marine brat

heh

Gag you with a spoon, fer sure, fer sure.

That is so like retro!

128 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:18:48pm

re: #68 albusteve

it is a huge undertaking...the History museum was closed for almost two years for a redo...aside from that the Smithsonian is a destination in and of itself...a must see for everybody...the A and S is utterly mind boggling


I tried to see it on that same Thanksgiving weekend as I saw the natural history museum. It had just reopened that week and the line for the star-spangled banner (the real flag that flew over Fort McHenry) was over 2 hours long. The whole place was a mob scene. Everywhere you turned were people dressed as historical characters and bands playing -- I don't even know what, it was so loud. But I had been to the old, unrenovated museum and it was terrific. I hope to go back on a quieter day.

129 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:18:51pm

re: #120 buzzsawmonkey

I'm not arguing with the information; I just hate the showmanship conventions of such programs, which includes the portentiousness of irritating background atonal piano music.

It's been a few weeks since I watched it, but I think the worst is at the beginning with the re-enactment of the discovery of the text of Gilgamesh.

130 quickjustice  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:19:17pm

re: #121 dedalus

DeWitt should stop at the Library of Congress, which has the Jefferson Bible. Jefferson cut, rearranged, and pasted the Bible to make logical sense and to be internally consistent. He worked very hard at that.

131 itellu3times  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:19:46pm

They must have hissed the mystery lectures.
/spoonerisms

132 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:19:53pm

re: #122 laxmatt1984

Oh, that's in the DC Air and Space.

Here's the wiki for the Dulles Air and Space. I live just outside DC and go to the Smithsonian regularly. Believe me, if you ever visit DC schedule a day to go to this place. It's way better than the Air and Space on the mall.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

I will...I love Washington...that museum was yet to be opened last I was back there..
I'd go just to see the Enola Gay!....maybe this year...thanks

133 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:20:05pm

re: #126 pre-Boomer Marine brat

heh

Gag you with a spoon, fer sure, fer sure.

*grin*
I've (gratefully) exhausted my knowledge of Valley Girl lingo.

134 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:20:32pm

re: #115 reine.de.tout

LOL,
psychic twins for sure.

135 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:20:43pm

re: #73 MandyManners

It's NOT bourbon. It's sour mash. Big difference.

see..........that's 'cause I didn't read the label........but I drank it, puked it..........scotch was my drug of choice...........but I'd lift any bottle if it was all there was...........

136 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:21:25pm

re: #124 Bloodnok

In the US I've never been west of Lake Placid, NY.

OMG!...you are in for the treat of a lifetime amigo....really...do it

137 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:21:59pm

re: #127 ludwigvanquixote

That is so like retro!

re: #133 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*grin*
I've (gratefully) exhausted my knowledge of Valley Girl lingo.

Ludwig, looks like I can't aim my mouse, either. #133 was meant to be a reply to yours!

138 DistantThunder  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:22:30pm

*Groan*

139 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:23:06pm

re: #128 doppelganglander

I tried to see it on that same Thanksgiving weekend as I saw the natural history museum. It had just reopened that week and the line for the star-spangled banner (the real flag that flew over Fort McHenry) was over 2 hours long. The whole place was a mob scene. Everywhere you turned were people dressed as historical characters and bands playing -- I don't even know what, it was so loud. But I had been to the old, unrenovated museum and it was terrific. I hope to go back on a quieter day.

trips to the Mall need to be well thought out...I saw them cleaning and refurbishing Old Glory down in the basement....makes you think

140 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:23:10pm
141 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:24:15pm
142 mfarmer1  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:24:29pm

I suggest given the current economic climate and what must be an avalanche of resumes burying employers these days that the federal government mandate the following questions to be included on top of every application for employment:

1) Is the Earth more than 10,000 years old? Y N

2) Has the USA landed men on the Moon? Y N

3) Were 19 crazed Muslims responsible for 9-11? Y N

Answering NO to any of the questions automatically disqualifies you for any job in the country except for "Smithsonian tour guide for fellow creation studies losers" and "nutty school board members."

143 DistantThunder  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:25:42pm

Anyone here online in the LA area? I have a question.

144 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:25:49pm

re: #113 Racer X

Does Glenn Beck have some sort of publicity stunt planned for Friday night?

145 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:26:28pm

re: #133 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*grin*
I've (gratefully) exhausted my knowledge of Valley Girl lingo.

It's come back in fad as text speak. I have threatened to beat students for it...

146 clgood  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:26:48pm

The more I think about it, the more I think Charles' enthusiasm is misplaced. Having been on the other side (though never really much of a "young earther") I know how a visit to the Smithsonian could be used to reinforce an "us vs. them" attitude. I frankly wouldn't count on any museum to provide that critical bit of evidence that causes scales to fall from the eyes of a creationist. My fear is that they'll just come away more inoculated against the evidence.

But I hope I'm wrong and Charles is right.

147 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:27:04pm

re: #136 albusteve

OMG!...you are in for the treat of a lifetime amigo....really...do it

I'll really consider it for this summer. My company is forcing us to take a minimum of two consecutive weeks vacation. If I can afford it I will try it.

148 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:27:05pm

re: #141 buzzsawmonkey

I'm sorry, but it's been re-named the Enola LGBT to conform to modern sensibilities.

damnit!....nothing is sacred

149 DistantThunder  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:27:08pm

re: #144 Killgore Trout

Does Glenn Beck have some sort of publicity stunt planned for Friday night?

It's a round table discussion with a live audience about values and principles, and the future of the country.

150 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:27:27pm

But in defense of the ID/Biblical Creation crowd, we should all remember that there is actual basis in fact that gives rise to mythology. Take for instance the mythology of the Unicorn. From what I understand, there is soon to be a re-emergence of that incredible creature on my doorstep any day now.

/ID at the Smithsonian............

151 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:27:27pm

re: #139 albusteve

trips to the Mall need to be well thought out...I saw them cleaning and refurbishing Old Glory down in the basement....makes you think

Our trips are rarely well thought-out, despite my husband's best efforts, but we have a great time. We've been in D.C. a lot in the last few years because of my daughter's internships -- we always seem to be heading up or back with a minivan full of stuff. I never get tired of the Mall, but I'd like to see some of the less well-known sites too.

152 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:28:12pm

re: #82 clgood

She was worried about the rat? Wait until she learns that if you look even farther back we were a fish.

I'm a Pisces....so I guess I still am.
:)

153 DistantThunder  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:28:23pm

re: #151 doppelganglander

Our trips are rarely well thought-out, despite my husband's best efforts, but we have a great time. We've been in D.C. a lot in the last few years because of my daughter's internships -- we always seem to be heading up or back with a minivan full of stuff. I never get tired of the Mall, but I'd like to see some of the less well-known sites too.

The native American museum is very impressive.

154 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:28:36pm

It's been said before, but it always bears repeating, that these creationists surely do not deny medical treatments that evolutionary theory has made possible.

155 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:28:51pm

re: #147 Bloodnok

I'll really consider it for this summer. My company is forcing us to take a minimum of two consecutive weeks vacation. If I can afford it I will try it.

ask them for an extra week...you'll need it and even then you won't even see the whole enchillada...not by a long ways

156 DistantThunder  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:29:07pm

re: #154 Sharmuta

It's been said before, but it always bears repeating, that these creationists surely do not deny medical treatments that evolutionary theory has made possible.

Ain't that the truth.

157 clgood  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:29:20pm

If you're into aircraft, call for a tour (you can't just stop by) of the Paul Garber Facility in Silver Springs. That's where the Smithsonian does the aircraft restorations. They were just putting the Enola Gay together when I went, and we got really close. (In fact, I broke a rule and touched the fuselage, just to say I had.) You get a knowledgeable guide and a great tour.

158 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:29:30pm
159 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:29:48pm

re: #145 ludwigvanquixote

It's come back in fad as text speak. I have threatened to beat students for it...

Maybe Mandy has a well-broken-in 2x4 which she'll loan you.

160 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:29:49pm

re: #137 pre-Boomer Marine brat


All good buddy!

161 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:29:51pm

re: #143 DistantThunder

Anyone here online in the LA area? I have a question.

Me. not sure if I can answer but ....shoot.

162 screaming_eagle  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:29:59pm

re: #150 IslandLibertarian

Take for instance the mythology of the Unicorn. From what I understand, there is soon to be a re-emergence of that incredible creature on my doorstep any day now.

The mythology I've been studing says they taste great with Hickory BBQ sauce.

163 itellu3times  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:30:06pm

re: #143 DistantThunder

Anyone here online in the LA area? I have a question.

Well I'm behind the orange curtain right now, but I'll escape shortly, wassup?

164 Russkilitlover  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:30:41pm

re: #119 albusteve

I've tromped all over out here...let me know if you need some ideas...the West is where it's at....

but the Coast is the most!

165 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:31:18pm

re: #151 doppelganglander

Our trips are rarely well thought-out, despite my husband's best efforts, but we have a great time. We've been in D.C. a lot in the last few years because of my daughter's internships -- we always seem to be heading up or back with a minivan full of stuff. I never get tired of the Mall, but I'd like to see some of the less well-known sites too.

it's the American way to bang around like that...I like to get in early and find a cheap ramp...have coffee etc...I've done it otherwise too....try a turn around the mall at 1am sometime....unbelievable

166 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:31:18pm

re: #113 Racer X

Glenn Beck- Arrogance and Ignorance

American State Department Official interviewed by the Sunday Telegram: "Britain is no more important than any other of the 190 members of the U.N."

Glenn Beck suggested sending letters of apology to:

British Embassy
3100 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington DC 20008

167 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:31:20pm

I just want to say that I had the most enjoyable poop in the bathroom. It seemed the best commentary for these people.

168 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:31:26pm

re: #164 Russkilitlover

but the Coast is the most!

Bloody expensive, too.

169 callahan23  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:31:32pm

re: #158 buzzsawmonkey

Somebody should start marketing Uni Corn Whiskey™.

Drain enough horns of it, and you will see unicorns--as well as other interesting things.

What kind of additive is needed to create such an effect? LSD?

170 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:32:01pm

re: #167 ludwigvanquixote

I just want to say that I had the most enjoyable poop in the bathroom. It seemed the best commentary for these people.

Was it intelligently designed, or was it created?

171 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:32:05pm

re: #149 DistantThunder

Ah, the Koskidz had a thread speculating that he was going to call for a revolution and get himself arrested or something.

172 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:32:14pm
173 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:32:40pm

re: #158 buzzsawmonkey

go fot it..you'll make millions..billions..........trillions..........obama-bucks.......

174 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:33:11pm

re: #158 buzzsawmonkey

Somebody should start marketing Uni Corn Whiskey™.

Drain enough horns of it, and you will see unicorns--as well as other interesting things.

Question would be "Hominy can you drink?"......

175 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:33:13pm

re: #173 IslandLibertarian

go fot it..you'll make millions..billions..........trillions..........obama-bucks.......

Monopoly Money is worth more.

176 quickjustice  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:33:33pm

re: #140 buzzsawmonkey

As I said earlier, Tennessee Sipping Whiskey goes through a charcoal filtration process. Ordinary bourbon does not. Jack Daniels also has its own unique yeast blend, which gives it its unique taste.

177 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:33:41pm
178 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:34:06pm

re: #154 Sharmuta

It's been said before, but it always bears repeating, that these creationists surely do not deny medical treatments that evolutionary theory has made possible.

Not being contentious, Sharmie, but which are those? I ask from a place of genuine curiosity, not adversity. I love modern medicine and daresay I would not be here typing without it.

179 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:34:15pm

re: #146 clgood

The more I think about it, the more I think Charles' enthusiasm is misplaced. Having been on the other side (though never really much of a "young earther") I know how a visit to the Smithsonian could be used to reinforce an "us vs. them" attitude. I frankly wouldn't count on any museum to provide that critical bit of evidence that causes scales to fall from the eyes of a creationist. My fear is that they'll just come away more inoculated against the evidence.

But I hope I'm wrong and Charles is right.

I think it's all about a seed of doubt being planted. It is possible for a creationist looking to go into a scientific field to get a wake-up call. Karl Giberson is a prime example.

In his book Saving Darwin, Giberson discusses his own evolution as a creationists to a "Darwinist"- he'd originally planned to pursue science so he could prove creation, but somewhere in the course of his studies, he came to realize the scientific evidence was too compelling to not be fact.

Perhaps something along those lines will happen with these kids.

180 DistantThunder  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:34:40pm

Chicago Dystopia: 26th Chicago Public School Student Slain in 2008-2009 school year

Franco Avila made no secret he was in a gang, but he had told relatives he was trying to change his ways, his father said.

On Tuesday night Avila was shot in the abdomen in the 3600 block of West Ainslie Street shortly before 8 p.m. He was then found by police on the ground in the 4900 block of North Ridgeway Avenue, approximately three blocks away.

"He was trying to get out [of the gang] and get his life back up, said Dennis Kuhn, Avila's stepfather. "It's just messed up."

Avila was the 26th Chicago Public Schools student slain this school year, tying last year's mark.

181 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:34:57pm

re: #170 acwgusa

Was it intelligently designed, or was it created?

ummm... it was artisitcally delivered?

182 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:35:31pm

re: #167 ludwigvanquixote

I just want to say that I had the most enjoyable poop in the bathroom. It seemed the best commentary for these people.

i wonder if they even study coprolites.

183 callahan23  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:36:58pm

re: #172 buzzsawmonkey

I was referring to the good old-fashioned DTs.

Wow, you're referring to the good old 'Delirium Tremens'.
Heavy drinking. I'm afraid my liver will wave the white flag.

184 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:37:20pm

re: #153 DistantThunder

The native American museum is very impressive.

That's one I haven't seen. We were actually in town shortly after it opened in 2004, but of course it was insanely crowded. I read a very negative review of it, so it hasn't been a priority. And to be honest, I've never been as interested in American Indians or westward expansion as I am in other aspects of American history. I'm fascinated by the Revolution, the Civil War, and American social history, things like the Industrial Revolution and the Gilded Age. But I will try to visit next time, based on your recommendation.

185 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:37:41pm

re: #182 nyc redneck

i wonder if they even study coprolites.


Well, with all the bullshit they throw around, it would be a natural topic.
Of course, seeing that to look into it, would require the abilility to think in terms of causal chains and logical connections.

186 Russkilitlover  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:37:50pm

re: #168 acwgusa

Bloody expensive, too.

Well, yeah. There is that.

187 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:38:06pm

Liberty University was founded by Jerry Falwell, by the way.

188 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:38:26pm

re: #165 albusteve

it's the American way to bang around like that...I like to get in early and find a cheap ramp...have coffee etc...I've done it otherwise too....try a turn around the mall at 1am sometime....unbelievable

My daughter says one of her nicest dates was a moonlight walk around the Lincoln Memorial. I also think the Jefferson Memorial by night is just gorgeous.

189 DistantThunder  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:39:12pm

re: #179 Sharmuta

I think it's all about a seed of doubt being planted. It is possible for a creationist looking to go into a scientific field to get a wake-up call. Karl Giberson is a prime example.

In his book Saving Darwin, Giberson discusses his own evolution as a creationists to a "Darwinist"- he'd originally planned to pursue science so he could prove creation, but somewhere in the course of his studies, he came to realize the scientific evidence was too compelling to not be fact.

Perhaps something along those lines will happen with these kids.

Sounds like an interesting read.

190 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:39:28pm

re: #187 Charles

Liberty University was founded by Jerry Falwell, by the way.

Yes indeed, and I asked around the Dept. It was Liberty University that had the push to get their people into Biology and Chemistry programs about ten years back in order to have PhD shills for their cause.

191 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:39:30pm

re: #187 Charles

Liberty University was founded by Jerry Falwell, by the way.

My dad was from Lynchburg, Virginia, Jerry's hometown. I don't think I can repeat his opinions about Jerry on a family blog.

192 DistantThunder  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:39:51pm

re: #184 doppelganglander

That's one I haven't seen. We were actually in town shortly after it opened in 2004, but of course it was insanely crowded. I read a very negative review of it, so it hasn't been a priority. And to be honest, I've never been as interested in American Indians or westward expansion as I am in other aspects of American history. I'm fascinated by the Revolution, the Civil War, and American social history, things like the Industrial Revolution and the Gilded Age. But I will try to visit next time, based on your recommendation.

I thought the artwork and tools were spectacular.

193 itellu3times  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:39:58pm

What is the creationist response to the size of the universe - just ignore it? I mean, with billions of stars in this galaxy, and billions of galaxies floating around, are they all empty except this one, or does God intelligently design (the same or differently?) for each, or wot? How many Jesii are required? Stuff like that.

194 Pietr  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:40:12pm

re: #144 Killgore Trout

re: #149 DistantThunder

My wife has family members that are supposed to participate-from western Pa......so it'll be on the tube here Friday....Cheers.

195 Salamantis  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:40:41pm

Here's betting that a tour of the Smithsonian has more of a chance of changing the minds of creationists than a tour of the Creation Museum has of changing the minds of evolution accepters.

Which is why their visits are chaperoned by propagandistic 'minders.'

196 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:40:56pm

re: #188 doppelganglander

My daughter says one of her nicest dates was a moonlight walk around the Lincoln Memorial. I also think the Jefferson Memorial by night is just gorgeous.

all of it...the Korean War Mem is a must see at night...very moving indeed

197 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:41:43pm

re: #178 rawmuse

Not being contentious, Sharmie, but which are those? I ask from a place of genuine curiosity, not adversity. I love modern medicine and daresay I would not be here typing without it.

Just about any antibiotic your doctor would prescribe, for starters.

198 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:42:05pm

While we're on evolution, I just started reading "Summer for the Gods" by Edward J. Larson. It's about the Scopes trial, but it includes a lot of background about the gradual acceptance of Darwinism, along with the gradual hardening of fundamentalist opinion against it. I'm enjoying it so far. Has anyone else read it?

199 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:42:19pm

re: #184 doppelganglander

That's one I haven't seen. We were actually in town shortly after it opened in 2004, but of course it was insanely crowded. I read a very negative review of it, so it hasn't been a priority. And to be honest, I've never been as interested in American Indians or westward expansion as I am in other aspects of American history. I'm fascinated by the Revolution, the Civil War, and American social history, things like the Industrial Revolution and the Gilded Age. But I will try to visit next time, based on your recommendation.

the opening of the Am west is one of the great stories of world history...imo

200 Russkilitlover  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:42:43pm

re: #197 Sharmuta

Just about any antibiotic your doctor would prescribe, for starters.

Not to mention vaccines.

201 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:42:57pm

re: #115 reine.de.tout

Left a question for you in the last thread if you are interested (about the cookbook (V2.0)).

202 Salamantis  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:42:59pm

re: #197 Sharmuta

Just about any antibiotic your doctor would prescribe, for starters.

Not to mention any vaccine; they have to be periodically updated to counter evolution in the diseases they target.

203 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:43:03pm

re: #193 itellu3times

What is the creationist response to the size of the universe - just ignore it? I mean, with billions of stars in this galaxy, and billions of galaxies floating around, are they all empty except this one, or does God intelligently design (the same or differently?) for each, or wot? How many Jesii are required? Stuff like that.

After God created marijuana, His attention span wandered. It was a cosmic High, man.

/Yeah, I'm going to Hell.

204 Salamantis  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:43:32pm

GMTA, Russkiltlover!

205 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:44:08pm

re: #177 buzzsawmonkey

It depends whether or not you have true grits.

I tried a snappy comeback but I only have mush in my brains.........

206 itellu3times  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:44:10pm

re: #199 albusteve

the opening of the Am west is one of the great stories of world history...imo

Starting with the exploration, and the mountain men, sure, me too. Of course, the indigenes have to see it as the nabka.

207 querent  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:44:10pm

re: #203 acwgusa

and then He designed the platypus...

208 Russkilitlover  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:44:43pm

re: #199 albusteve

the opening of the Am west is one of the great stories of world history...imo

Oh, I agree! It is the American Spirit writ in wide open spaces and huge skies. There are so many wonderful places to visit throughout the west and imagining the intrepids who settled the land from freaking covered wagons, no less!

209 Salamantis  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:45:14pm

re: #207 querent

and then He designed the platypus...

No, that was after He created psilocybin mushrooms and peyote cacti.

210 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:45:21pm

re: #189 DistantThunder

Sounds like an interesting read.

I liked Ken Miller's Only A Theory better, but Giberson's story of his transformation and his inclusion of the history of the creationist movement is something I've so far not found in another book. It's worth a read.

211 itellu3times  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:45:25pm

re: #203 acwgusa

After God created marijuana, His attention span wandered. It was a cosmic High, man.

/Yeah, I'm going to Hell.

You ever read Venus on the Half-Shell? By one Kilgore Trout (aka Phillip Jose Farmer). Runs along some of those same lines.

212 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:45:28pm
213 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:45:28pm

re: #195 Salamantis

Here's betting that a tour of the Smithsonian has more of a chance of changing the minds of creationists than a tour of the Creation Museum has of changing the minds of evolution accepters.

Which is why their visits are chaperoned by propagandistic 'minders.'

We are like the prohet Daniel going into the very lions den of the evolutionists! Of course Daniel was a Jew, and he is now burning in eternal damnation - but he still did pretty good for a Jew and we can do even better because WE ARE SAVED!

The chaperones are there to prevent students from straying from the righteous path and being seduced by Satan's outside thoughts and science. Science is the greates trick ever of the Devil. It caused the Nazis! It causes young men to want to be with other men - you know- that way!

The chaperones are doing the Lord's work preventing young minds from being sullied by unclean thoughts. They also prevent innocent 19 year olds from the evils of kissing!

214 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:46:25pm

re: #209 Salamantis

No, that was after He created psilocybin mushrooms and peyote cacti.

Unfortunately for God, Doritos wouldn't be invented for another couple billion years.

215 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:46:28pm

oh and sarc tag for 213 in case it was not obvious

216 itellu3times  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:46:33pm

re: #207 querent

and then He designed the platypus...

Not to mention the chamelion. I'm tellin' ya, the Creator has some good days, and some not so good.

217 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:46:39pm

re: #206 itellu3times

Starting with the exploration, and the mountain men, sure, me too. Of course, the indigenes have to see it as the nabka.

it is just an enormous and profound story...certainly not all good or ethical...the destruction of the Indian cultures disturbs me a great deal to this day...but it is all part of the great tale

218 callahan23  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:46:39pm

re: #188 doppelganglander

My daughter says one of her nicest dates was a moonlight walk around the Lincoln Memorial. I also think the Jefferson Memorial by night is just gorgeous.

Was once in may of 2005 at the southern corner of 14th St NW and Pennsylvania Ave NW. Saw G.W. Bush's motorcade exit the white house grounds. Drove right past me.
Quite a sight.

219 zombie  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:47:14pm

re: #187 Charles

Liberty University was founded by Jerry Falwell, by the way.

I thought it had just evolved naturally from his Sunday School classes.

220 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:47:17pm

re: #216 itellu3times

Not to mention the chamelion. I'm tellin' ya, the Creator has some good days, and some not so good.

I wonder if God gets bored.

221 Russkilitlover  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:47:18pm

re: #207 querent

and then He designed the platypus...

LOL! And the tapir and the warthog.

222 njdhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:47:30pm

WTF? The One is going to send a love letter to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

US may soon make overture to Iran leader

WASHINGTON - The Obama administration is leaning toward making a major diplomatic overture to Iran before the country's presidential elections in June. This initiative could come in the form of a letter from President Obama to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, according to two senior European diplomats who have met in recent weeks with key State Department officials crafting a new US policy toward Iran.

The letter would be aimed at initiating talks over the Iranian nuclear program and Iran's role in neighboring Iraq and Afghanistan, the diplomats said, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

223 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:47:35pm

re: #197 Sharmuta

Just about any antibiotic your doctor would prescribe, for starters.

Ah, the evolution of the bacteria having been observed as a method of countering it. I get it. Antibiotics are an ever changing field since we find ourselves fighting ever stronger strains. Thanks, Sharmie, I forgot about that.

224 DistantThunder  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:48:17pm

And just for Clarification - Brigham Young University was named after the founder.

A recent BYU article states:

Science professors don't view evolution as an 'either-or' proposition
By Alicia Moulton - 9 Feb 2009


Most biology faculty and students do not have a problem reconciling faith with their study of evolution, and many even find it spiritually inspiring.

"Too often we assume a false dichotomy," said biology professor Jerry Johnson. "Yet one can accept evolution and still be a faithful follower of Christ."

Students study evolution every semester, whether in the senior capstone class Biology 420, evolutionary biology, or in Biology 100. Charles Darwin's theories are not a controversial side-topic for the sciences but a core, connecting theme.

Johnson and biology department chair Keith Crandall referred to a quote by geneticist Theodosius Dobzhansky that "Nothing in biology makes sense, except in the light of evolution."

BYU biology professors Johnson, Crandall, Michael Whiting and Jack Sites said they have had positive experiences teaching evolution and few problems. They are careful to teach evolution so students' concerns are addressed, and they spend time in class discussing the issues. Professors resolve religious questions by referring students to the packet of LDS First Presidency statements on evolution. They said they pay close attention to feedback on student ratings and that many students say taking the class strengthened their testimonies.

"We spend time dispelling the myth that evolution and religion are incompatible," Johnson said. "We try to unburden students from the idea of either-or. That's baggage they don't have to carry."

"Faith-affirming" evolution

Johnson said his study of evolution has not diminished his faith, but has strengthened it by giving him a greater understanding of the creation.

"It gives me insight into the creator's mechanism," Johnson said. "I hope every student comes out of my class with a greater testimony of the creation God has made."

Whiting, who teaches a Book of Mormon class this semester as well as evolutionary biology, said he finds it much more impressive to view God creating species through the mechanism of evolution rather than individually.

"I find it very faith-affirming," Whiting said. "We learn about the nature of the creator."

.....

Evolution at BYU

Professors do not avoid the topic of evolution at BYU or modify Darwin's theories in class.

"We're teaching a solid, rigorous evolution course," Johnson said.

Johnson said in national standardized exams, Biology 420 students score higher in evolution and ecology than the national averages.

Read the whole thing...

225 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:48:25pm

re: #212 buzzsawmonkey

Whenever I am in Washington, I always drop a small bouquet of dollar bills at the Tomb of the Unknown Lobbyist. Yes, I'm just a sentimental guy.

zingdinger!...what a patriot

226 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:48:42pm

re: #205 LGoPs

I tried a snappy comeback but I only have mush in my brains.........

I'm sure you have Polenta of brains in there...

227 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:49:04pm

re: #193 itellu3times

It's all a hoax done with mirrors.

/////////////

228 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:49:21pm

re: #212 buzzsawmonkey

Whenever I am in Washington, I always drop a small bouquet of dollar bills at the Tomb of the Unknown Lobbyist. Yes, I'm just a sentimental guy.

In all seriousness, I knew the sister of the man who was once the Unknown Soldier representing Vietnam. Obviously he's no longer unknown and has been removed to the family plot. His sister is a remarkable woman, also a veteran, who did tremendous work in bringing her brother home.

229 VioletTiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:49:25pm

re: #63 Sean

If I may point out that the Smithsonian engages in revisionist history:

Enola Gay Controversy

Thank you Harry Truman, for having the guts to save my Dad from invading Japan!

re: #78 Soona'

Ditto!

Me three. My Dad was in the Pacific, too. The Enola Gay exhibit was very well done. I was amazed to learn that the pilot named the plane after his mother--before he knew the nature of his mission.

231 screaming_eagle  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:49:36pm

re: #220 acwgusa

I wonder if God gets bored.

Prolly not. Imagine, you could just blow up a star anytime you want. Create a black-hole and suck the Earth in if you get really pissed off.

232 itellu3times  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:49:44pm

re: #222 njdhockeyfan

US may soon make overture to Iran leader

Ought to make it an entire symphony, I think I got one for them right here ...

233 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:51:03pm

re: #220 acwgusa

I wonder if God gets bored.

He was bored. Then he made man. Now he's amused.

234 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:51:17pm

re: #223 rawmuse

Ah, the evolution of the bacteria having been observed as a method of countering it. I get it. Antibiotics are an ever changing field since we find ourselves fighting ever stronger strains. Thanks, Sharmie, I forgot about that.

Well- it's very important in HIV/AIDS research as some of the treatments that had been devised are already starting to lose their effectiveness.

235 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:51:42pm

re: #207 querent

and then He designed the platypus...

When there's more than one they can either be referred to as Platypuses or Platypi.
(Platypi also goes good with a scoop of vanilla ice cream and a glass of milk......)
:)

236 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:52:45pm

Ire: #140 buzzsawmonkey

What is the difference? Are they not both corn products?

Everybody seems to be gung-ho on bourbon these days; single malt Scotches are almost passe. I've never particularly liked bourbon, but on the other hand I haven't spelunked through the various boutique offerings as I have through some of the Scotches. I might, if my liver holds out.

Google Basil Hayden's. Think "rye", not "corn".

237 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:52:47pm
238 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:52:50pm

re: #235 LGoPs

When there's more than one they can either be referred to as Platypuses or Platypi.
(Platypi also goes good with a scoop of vanilla ice cream and a glass of milk......)
:)

crushed Thin Mints over the Platypi....mmmmm

239 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:52:53pm

re: #226 wrenchwench

I'm sure you have Polenta of brains in there...

LOL. I also try not to be mealymouthed..........

240 brookly red  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:52:57pm

re: #222 njdhockeyfan

WTF? The One is going to send a love letter to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Why the surprise? He said he would... as much as I despise the man he has kept more campaign promises that any one else ever.

241 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:53:14pm

re: #222 njdhockeyfan

WTF? The One is going to send a love letter to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

US may soon make overture to Iran leader

You expected what?

242 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:53:36pm

re: #229 VioletTiger

Me three. My Dad was in the Pacific, too. The Enola Gay exhibit was very well done. I was amazed to learn that the pilot named the plane after his mother--before he knew the nature of his mission.

Yes, it was rather dissapointing - the whole affair with the Enola Gay. The Japanese formally protested.

When their history books cover Pearl Harbor, Bataan, Nanking and Harmin accurately, I might have a little more sensitivity to their whining about history - but probably not. Because if Japanese textbooks did cover that accurately, they would realize that the US was a lot nicer in war than they were - even with the atomics.

243 njdhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:53:48pm

re: #230 HelloDare

I got the perfect gift for Ahmadinejad when he comes to the white house.

And he could give him this stool to stand on for the gift exchange.

244 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:54:16pm

re: #240 brookly red

he's picking out the DVDs personally this time....he's learning

245 DistantThunder  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:54:32pm

re: #236 MandyManners

I

Google Basil Hayden's. Think "rye", not "corn".

My son's named Hayden - I had no idea.

246 Racer X  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:54:54pm

It always irks me when young earth creationists explain hidden fossils as "things that God has planted for us to find", or far off galaxies as "illusions put there by God for us to see".

I really doubt that God is playing games with us. It does not make sense for God to be deceitful.

It makes more sense that He has the ability to put things in motion while knowing the exact outcome Billions of years later.

247 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:54:56pm

re: #234 Sharmuta

Well- it's very important in HIV/AIDS research as some of the treatments that had been devised are already starting to lose their effectiveness.

One life span of a bacterium or a virus being a millionth or less of a human being, I can see where that would be a problem. By the time a treatment is devised, the bug it was designed for is long dead and we are fighting its distant progeny.

248 DistantThunder  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:55:09pm

re: #244 albusteve

he's picking out the DVDs personally this time....he's learning

They should have at least included Rear Window.

249 itellu3times  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:55:15pm

re: #234 Sharmuta

Well- it's very important in HIV/AIDS research as some of the treatments that had been devised are already starting to lose their effectiveness.

If I wanted to play devil's advocate, most ID'rs pretend to allow for minor evolution of existing creatures, they protest about creation and major features. Precisely for these reasons - pretty durn obvious.

I'd try to make the anti-ID case for the new molecular biology treatments like Enbrel on the grounds that they require studying the genome and variations thereof, but again, the ID'rs will try to allow for that.

Best arguments I can make that they don't allow for would be genetic drift that sure looks like it takes tens of thousands and millions of years, but I suppose some subset of ID'rs not YEC could allow for that, too.

After all, can you PROVE that the world, if not the universe, were not created five minutes ago with an entire false history, hmmmm?

250 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:55:16pm

In fact to continue the thought, I will say that the Japanese were legitimately just as horrible as the Germans. I am saying this as a Jew who knows the history very well.

251 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:55:18pm

re: #239 LGoPs

LOL. I also try not to be mealymouthed..........

Yeah, just go straight for the kernel of truth.

253 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:56:03pm

re: #248 DistantThunder

They should have at least included Rear Window.

the Outlaw Barry Wales will be included I hear

254 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:56:07pm

re: #228 doppelganglander
Wow - I'd really like to hear the story of how she brought him home.
Is it long or do you have a link or anything?

255 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:56:27pm

re: #246 Racer X

It always irks me when young earth creationists explain hidden fossils as "things that God has planted for us to find", or far off galaxies as "illusions put there by God for us to see".

I really doubt that God is playing games with us. It does not make sense for God to be deceitful.

It makes more sense that He has the ability to put things in motion while knowing the exact outcome Billions of years later.

Me too.

So God is trying to deceive us? He's lying to us?

GAH!

256 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:56:48pm

re: #246 Racer X

It always irks me when young earth creationists explain hidden fossils as "things that God has planted for us to find", or far off galaxies as "illusions put there by God for us to see".

I really doubt that God is playing games with us. It does not make sense for God to be deceitful.

It makes more sense that He has the ability to put things in motion while knowing the exact outcome Billions of years later.


Ahhh but when they do that with me, I begin to salivate. I ask them if God were willing to create the entire universe as a lie, then how do you know that the bible was also not another of his tests to figure out was incorrect?

257 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:56:51pm

re: #198 doppelganglander

While we're on evolution, I just started reading "Summer for the Gods" by Edward J. Larson. It's about the Scopes trial, but it includes a lot of background about the gradual acceptance of Darwinism, along with the gradual hardening of fundamentalist opinion against it. I'm enjoying it so far. Has anyone else read it?

Nope but, if you ever get the chance, read Iriving Stone's biography of Clarence Darrow. It'll give you some good background about the defense.

258 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:57:21pm

re: #253 albusteve

the Outlaw Barry Wales will be included I hear

Or the Sean Penn political biopic about the life of 0bama, "Milquetoast".

259 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:57:25pm

re: #251 wrenchwench

Yeah, just go straight for the kernel of truth.

Amaize-ing.

261 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:58:05pm

re: #239 LGoPs

LOL. I also try not to be mealymouthed..........

That was corny.

262 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:58:13pm

re: #252 jcm

The latest in high tech gadgets.

That reminds me of the "No Martini" signs. I guess other alcohol is okay.

263 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:58:20pm

I see no one appreciated my post illustrating the evolution of juvenile humor.

264 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 4:59:26pm

re: #258 Bloodnok

Or the Sean Penn political biopic about the life of 0bama, "Milquetoast".

heh....his other based on true life...the Munchurian Candidate....wink wink

265 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:00:09pm

I'm trying to cobble together another pun, but I don't want you to think I'm stalking you.

266 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:00:13pm

re: #260 itellu3times

Cold-war unicorns play set

If you're going to go Unicorn, go for this.

267 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:00:18pm

re: #263 MandyManners

Oops. I was wrong. Never mind.

268 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:00:18pm

re: #261 LudwigVanQuixote

That was corny.

I know. No matter hominy times people tell me.........

269 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:00:30pm

re: #264 albusteve

heh....his other based on true life...the Munchurian Candidate....wink wink

Howz 'bout The Munchausian Candidate?

270 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:00:42pm

re: #263 MandyManners

I see no one appreciated my post illustrating the evolution of juvenile humor.

We haven't evolved that much, we're still on potty humor.

271 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:00:45pm

re: #265 wrenchwench

I'm trying to cobble together another pun, but I don't want you to think I'm stalking you.

Let's be civlized and not get into a tassle.

272 godfrey  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:01:09pm

Bill Jack's quotation proves that the root of this problem is poor theology. Science? He hasn't even got that far.

273 VioletTiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:01:11pm

re: #250 LudwigVanQuixote

In fact to continue the thought, I will say that the Japanese were legitimately just as horrible as the Germans. I am saying this as a Jew who knows the history very well.

I can never understand why some continue to deny and hide from history. It happened, and we can only learn the lessons and vow to imitate the good and never to repeat the bad. History, like science, should not be a PC affair. Facts are facts, whether we like them or not.

274 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:01:25pm

re: #268 LGoPs

I know. No matter hominy times people tell me.........

That's just the gritty reality. I imagine these puns will be serialized!

275 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:01:40pm

re: #269 Bloodnok

Howz 'bout The Munchausian Candidate?

Bardoz!

276 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:01:46pm

BBIAM

277 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:01:47pm

re: #273 VioletTiger

I can never understand why some continue to deny and hide from history. It happened, and we can only learn the lessons and vow to imitate the good and never to repeat the bad. History, like science, should not be a PC affair. Facts are facts, whether we like them or not.


Amen.

278 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:02:03pm

re: #247 rawmuse

One life span of a bacterium or a virus being a millionth or less of a human being, I can see where that would be a problem. By the time a treatment is devised, the bug it was designed for is long dead and we are fighting its distant progeny.

The medical treatment is an evolutionary pressure. The pathogen either must adapt or face extinction.

279 godfrey  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:02:21pm

/he said in a husky voice

280 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:02:31pm
281 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:02:47pm

Good God above, I'm bored! All the systems shut down for batch processing, and I have no paperwork left! I still have a half hour left!

282 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:03:12pm

re: #273 VioletTiger

I can never understand why some continue to deny and hide from history. It happened, and we can only learn the lessons and vow to imitate the good and never to repeat the bad. History, like science, should not be a PC affair. Facts are facts, whether we like them or not.

No, no, history just shows what went wrong. If we try again we'll get it right this time, 'cause we're smarter than they were!

///////

283 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:03:46pm

re: #222 njdhockeyfan
Huh. I'd like to talk to 'em about the taking of our embassy in 1979, holding our civilians captives for 444 days, torturing said captives, enabling Hezbollah to blow up the Marine's Barracks in Lebanon and their assisting the "foreign fighters" in killing American Troops in Iraq.
But I don't think that - even if Obama agreed with me, we'd speak to them in the same "language".

284 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:03:59pm

re: #281 acwgusa

Good God above, I'm bored! All the systems shut down for batch processing, and I have no paperwork left! I still have a half hour left!

It's Wednesday. Conga line!

285 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:04:14pm

re: #281 acwgusa

Good God above, I'm bored! All the systems shut down for batch processing, and I have no paperwork left! I still have a half hour left!

Go to your neighbors cube. Super glue is stapler to the desk.

286 Achilles Tang  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:04:25pm

re: #246 Racer X

It makes more sense that He has the ability to put things in motion while knowing the exact outcome Billions of years later.

Then what is the point of waiting billions of years instead of making it happen immediately?

Perhaps it be a test?/

287 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:04:47pm

So just asking, what happened to the troll from the Nazi war criminal thread? He was one of the first to truly get me furious.

288 brookly red  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:04:54pm

re: #230 HelloDare

I got the perfect gift for Ahmadinejad when he comes to the white house.

The very thought of Ahmadinejad coming to the White House

289 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:05:03pm

re: #201 Bubblehead II

Left a question for you in the last thread if you are interested (about the cookbook (V2.0)).

I'll check.

290 screaming_eagle  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:05:18pm

re: #285 jcm

Go to your neighbors cube. Super glue is stapler to the desk.

Super glue a quarter to the floor and watch how many people try to pick it up.

291 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:05:24pm

re: #246 Racer X

They worship a trickster god, a deceiver.

292 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:05:33pm

re: #287 LudwigVanQuixote

So just asking, what happened to the troll from the Nazi war criminal thread? He was one of the first to truly get me furious.

ashes are over there--------->

293 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:05:34pm

re: #249 itellu3times

If I wanted to play devil's advocate, most ID'rs pretend to allow for minor evolution of existing creatures, they protest about creation and major features. Precisely for these reasons - pretty durn obvious.

I'd try to make the anti-ID case for the new molecular biology treatments like Enbrel on the grounds that they require studying the genome and variations thereof, but again, the ID'rs will try to allow for that.

Best arguments I can make that they don't allow for would be genetic drift that sure looks like it takes tens of thousands and millions of years, but I suppose some subset of ID'rs not YEC could allow for that, too.

After all, can you PROVE that the world, if not the universe, were not created five minutes ago with an entire false history, hmmmm?

Yes- IDers allow for microevolution, but never seem to want to answer for how many adaptations are required before microevolution has become macroevolution.

294 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:05:37pm

re: #285 jcm

Go to your neighbors cube. Super glue is stapler to the desk.

She'll know its me, and take revenge. Scary, Scary revenge.

295 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:06:11pm

re: #284 Bloodnok

It's Wednesday. Conga line!

By the way I hope 0bama is taking it easy at the soiree tonight. He needs his sleep and it is a school work night.

296 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:06:20pm

re: #90 clgood

Speaking of good museums, one that's off the beaten path and nothing fancy is the Johnson Farm Dinosaur Tracks museum in St. George, Utah. What's cool about it is seeing dinosaur tracks from about 200 million years ago. Yes, I mean before the Jurassic. You can see the texture of the dino's skin in some places.

Another excellent museum of paleontology is the Royal Tyrrell Museum in Drumheller, Alberta. (Not far from where I hang my hat, incidentally.) I have to say that their Web site is less than impressive at first glance, but the museum itself is first-rate.

Curiously enough, there is an oxymoronically-named "Creation Science" museum, not too many miles up Highway 56, in Big Valley. One day, I want to go there and take photos and do a report on it for you folks.

297 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:06:21pm

Time for a alcohol run.

I will not bbiaw.

and yes, I am sober.

/for now

298 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:06:25pm

re: #290 screaming_eagle

Super glue a quarter to the floor and watch how many people try to pick it up.

that's just so juvenile....where's the best spot?

299 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:06:25pm

re: #283 realwest

Hi Realwest! you doing ok?

300 marwan's daughter  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:06:26pm

re: #224 DistantThunder

Thank you for that article. It's refreshing to see a sectarian school that doesn't push the creationist agenda. Now I wonder where other sectarian schools stand on this.

301 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:06:40pm

re: #201 Bubblehead II

Left a question for you in the last thread if you are interested (about the cookbook (V2.0)).

Send anything you have!
I'll start working when I have 100 recipes -have about 5 or 6 thus far.

302 wiffersnapper  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:07:10pm

Lucky them, I haven't been to the Smithsonian yet :(

303 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:07:17pm

re: #290 screaming_eagle

Super glue a quarter to the floor and watch how many people try to pick it up.

Hah!

304 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:07:28pm

re: #285 jcm

Go to your neighbors cube. Super glue is stapler to the desk.

LOL!
I like the way you think.

305 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:07:55pm

re: #274 LudwigVanQuixote

That's just the gritty reality. I imagine these puns will be serialized!

Long as we keep a grain of truth in them.......

306 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:08:12pm

re: #300 marwan's daughter

Thank you for that article. It's refreshing to see a sectarian school that doesn't push the creationist agenda. Now I wonder where other sectarian schools stand on this.

Catholic schools stand firmly on the side of evolution and science.

307 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:08:27pm

re: #252 jcm

The latest in high tech gadgets.

I'm normally not a vandal, but I am so gonna do that next time I see one of those.

308 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:08:43pm

re: #287 LudwigVanQuixote

So just asking, what happened to the troll from the Nazi war criminal thread? He was one of the first to truly get me furious.

He went down under a hail of down dings.........

309 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:09:08pm

re: #301 reine.de.tout

Send anything you have!
I'll start working when I have 100 recipes -have about 5 or 6 thus far.

I will send one soon. Please do not send your hired goons after me, either. I have seen them menacing people on other threads and I won't stand for it!
///

310 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:09:25pm

re: #222 njdhockeyfan

WTF? The One is going to send a love letter to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

US may soon make overture to Iran leader

o is out of his mind. khamenei he is a hard liner.
women in the burqua , no music in schools it corrupts young minds, the west is evil, destroy israel.
iirc he is the one who really pushed child brides after the shah was overthrown.
this guy is not going to unclench for o.
o should just send out form apology letters. mass mailing.
he might get one person to pat his head.

311 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:09:34pm

re: #309 Bloodnok

haha!
OK.

312 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:09:51pm

re: #294 acwgusa

She'll know its me, and take revenge. Scary, Scary revenge.

Find a logged in computer. Set the desktop to white, the folders to white, and the text to white.........

313 useless  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:10:40pm

So, someone catch me if I am wrong here, but Creationists think that the bible is true based off of the fact that the bible exists?

"Why should we be afraid to test our worldview against reality?” asked Bill Jack, a Christian leadership instructor who leads groups across the country for a company called Biblically Correct Tours. “If Christianity is true, it better be true in the natural history museums and in the zoos.”"

The bible is it's own evidence that it is true and correc? Is this not somehow a flawed scientific principal? Wasn't this decided back in the 1500's? I wonder too if these morons are going to start demanding that the sun rotate around the earth now, in order to prove Christianity.

314 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:10:51pm

re: #312 jcm

Find a logged in computer. Set the desktop to white, the folders to white, and the text to white.........

And have the IT guys rat me out. I'll get you next time, Gadget! Neeeeeeeeeeext Time!

315 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:11:39pm

re: #273 VioletTiger

It happened, and we can only learn the lessons and vow to imitate the good and never to repeat the bad.

The problem is the definition of "good" and " bad." Some people work to repeat lessons of history that should appall any decent human being, but doesn't.

316 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:12:00pm

re: #308 LGoPs

He went down under a hail of down dings.........

Really? When I looked at the thread he hadn't been banned. Still, the trolls karma dropped by almost 500 in one day. And every single downding was well deserved.

317 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:12:05pm

re: #254 realwest

Wow - I'd really like to hear the story of how she brought him home.
Is it long or do you have a link or anything?

You bet. His name is Lt. Michael Blassie. His sister Pat attended my church for a time. Here are a couple of links:

"Unknown" Vietnam Soldier Now Has a Name

Lt. Michael Blassie, Unknown No More

Arlington National Cemetery (not an official site) -- this one has links to dozens of stories. Warning: hideous colors and layout.

Basically, the tags identifying the remains went astray. Officials very much wanted to include a Vietnam unknown in the memorial, and went ahead, despite evidence that the remains were not unknown at all. Pat and other family members pressed for exhumation and DNA testing that ultimately identified Michael.

318 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:12:10pm

re: #287 LudwigVanQuixote

So just asking, what happened to the troll from the Nazi war criminal thread? He was one of the first to truly get me furious.

That is a fucked-up place to appear as a troll.

319 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:12:15pm

re: #285 jcm

Go to your neighbors cube. Super glue is stapler to the desk.

Put a piece of tape on the bottom of the mouse, over the track-ball.

320 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:12:35pm

re: #312 jcm

Find a logged in computer. Set the desktop to white, the folders to white, and the text to white.........

If the person is French, they'll stand up, salute and sing the Les Marseilles

321 Racer X  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:12:35pm

Don't get me wrong - I do not have any ill will towards young-earth creationists. They can believe whatever they want. I just point out that there are differing opinions on the subject. Doesn't mean they ALL need to be taught in public school.

322 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:12:40pm

re: #293 Sharmuta

Yes- IDers allow for microevolution, but never seem to want to answer for how many adaptations are required before microevolution has become macroevolution.

And the reason why IDers allow for microevolution is because of the scientific body of evidence- they just cannot deny this happens, as pathogens are a clear example of adaptation. There are other examples as well besides micro-organisms, but I think the biggest issue is that the IDers have a false notion of evolution in the first place. You can see this in many ID/Evolution threads where they want to see a fish change into a cat. It doesn't work that way, but correcting them is an uphill battle.

323 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:13:06pm

re: #285 jcm

Go to your neighbors cube. Super glue is stapler to the desk.

Raise or lower the chair.

324 Racer X  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:13:29pm

re: #312 jcm

Find a logged in computer. Set the desktop to white, the folders to white, and the text to white.........

That was you?

That was YOU?!?

325 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:13:34pm

re: #316 Dark_Falcon

Really? When I looked at the thread he hadn't been banned. Still, the trolls karma dropped by almost 500 in one day. And every single downding was well deserved.

You're right. He didn't get blocked. Just electronically machine gunned......like Sonny Corleone.

326 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:13:36pm

re: #298 albusteve

that's just so juvenile....where's the best spot?

On the first step of one of the bridges across the Riverwalk in downtown San Antonio ...

327 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:13:41pm

re: #310 nyc redneck

o is out of his mind. khamenei he is a hard liner.
women in the burqua , no music in schools it corrupts young minds, the west is evil, destroy israel.
iirc he is the one who really pushed child brides after the shah was overthrown.
this guy is not going to unclench for o.
o should just send out form apology letters. mass mailing.
he might get one person to pat his head.

Did you see this?Genius Joe Biden: Only "5% of the Taliban Is Incorrigible"

Joe Biden impressed his European colleagues this week with his vast knowledge of the Taliban terrorist organization:

5 percent of the Taliban is incorrigible, not susceptible to anything other than being defeated. Another 25 percent or so are not quite sure, in my view, the intensity of their commitment to the insurgency. And roughly 70 percent are involved because of the money, because of them being -- getting paid.”

Unfortunately, the Taliban disagree with Joe Biden and Barack Obama about the so-called moderate elements of the organization

"This does not require any response or reaction for this is illogical," Qari Mohammad Yousuf, a purported spokesman for the insurgent group, told Reuters when asked if its top leader Mullah Mohammad Omar would make any comment about Obama's proposal.

"The Taliban are united, have one leader, one aim, one policy...I do not know why they are talking about moderate Taliban and what it means?"
Obama, in an interview with the New York Times, expressed an openness to adapting tactics in Afghanistan that had been used in Iraq to reach out to moderate elements there.

328 Salamantis  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:13:46pm

Instant Amusement!

Materials Required:

One high speed drill.
One chromed nut and bolt.
One high speed drill bit of the same size as the bolt.
One can clear lacquer.
One sneakily obtained duplicate set of boss' car keys.

Go down to your boss' car (works best with newer, more expensive models).
Drill hole in windshield.
Screw nut and bolt in place.
Seal with clear lacquer.
Find a hiding place with a good view, and wait for boss to get off work.

Voila! Hilarity Ensues!

329 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:13:53pm

re: #319 Slumbering Behemoth

Put a piece of tape on the bottom of the mouse, over the track-ball.

Optical mice here.re: #323 MandyManners

Raise or lower the chair.

My office is the kind of office where petty larceny counts as a prank.

330 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:14:34pm

re: #252 jcm

The latest in high tech gadgets.

Bonus points if it's in Arabic or Farsi. Triple bonus points for both.

331 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:14:42pm

re: #314 acwgusa

And have the IT guys rat me out. I'll get you next time, Gadget! Neeeeeeeeeeext Time!

LOL!

Try this......

A co-worker built a smaller version about 6 years ago, I told him we should market it.

332 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:14:43pm

re: #294 acwgusa

Find a "hunt and peck" typist and rearrange the keys on their keyboard.

333 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:15:38pm

re: #325 LGoPs

You're right. He didn't get blocked. Just electronically machine gunned......like Sonny Corleone.

Pity. He shouldn't have been treated like Sonny... when it was clear that he was more like Fredo.

334 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:16:09pm

re: #324 Racer X

That was you?

That was YOU?!?

No, I grab a screen shot of someone's desktop, then hide the desktop and use the screen shot of the desktop as wallpaper.....

It's amazing how much time they'll spend clicking on the "icons."

335 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:16:16pm

re: #328 Salamantis

Instant Amusement!

Materials Required:

One high speed drill.
One chromed nut and bolt.
One high speed drill bit of the same size as the bolt.
One can clear lacquer.
One sneakily obtained duplicate set of boss' car keys.

Go down to your boss' car (works best with newer, more expensive models).
Drill hole in windshield.
Screw nut and bolt in place.
Seal with clear lacquer.
Find a hiding place with a good view, and wait for boss to get off work.

Voila! Hilarity Ensues!

OK, here's a good one that doesn't actually involve any actual damage to the car: Take one of those plastic binding strips, like the ones the cops sometimes use in lieu of handcuffs, get under the car and strap it to the axle.

Makes a horrific noise that will scare the ever-lovin' daylights out of any normal person - but no actual damage is actually done.

336 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:16:17pm

re: #329 acwgusa

My office is the kind of office where petty larceny counts as a prank.

Have a really powerful magnet?

337 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:16:21pm

re: #332 Slumbering Behemoth

Find a "hunt and peck" typist and rearrange the keys on their keyboard.

Just stick a Dvorák keyboard on.

338 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:16:30pm

re: #317 doppelganglander

You bet. His name is Lt. Michael Blassie. His sister Pat attended my church for a time. Here are a couple of links:

"Unknown" Vietnam Soldier Now Has a Name

Lt. Michael Blassie, Unknown No More

Arlington National Cemetery (not an official site) -- this one has links to dozens of stories. Warning: hideous colors and layout.

Basically, the tags identifying the remains went astray. Officials very much wanted to include a Vietnam unknown in the memorial, and went ahead, despite evidence that the remains were not unknown at all. Pat and other family members pressed for exhumation and DNA testing that ultimately identified Michael.

My uncle was the only soldier on active duty in the US Army to attend the WW2/Korean War internment and the 1984 Vietnam War internment.

339 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:16:31pm

My dad just said "Colmes is a dick" ha ha LOL ROFLMAO

340 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:16:58pm

re: #334 jcm

No, I grab a screen shot of someone's desktop, then hide the desktop and use the screen shot of the desktop as wallpaper.....

It's amazing how much time they'll spend clicking on the "icons."

You are so evil!
these are great.
Next time I want to get back at somebody, I'm gonna call you.

341 godfrey  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:17:06pm

re: #313 useless

Some read the Bible like Osama reads the Koran, but it's difficult to generalize. I have audio of a S Baptist preacher reading allegorically. My guess is that the overall Prot approach to Genesis is chaotic because Prot is chaotic. Often enough, that is.

342 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:17:17pm

re: #257 MandyManners

Nope but, if you ever get the chance, read Iriving Stone's biography of Clarence Darrow. It'll give you some good background about the defense.

Neat. Just did a quick Amazon search and it's called "Clarence Darrow for the Defense." Sadly, it appears to be out of print. I also discovered that Stone wrote a "biographical novel," as he called it, of Darwin, called "The Origin." If these two are half as good as "Lust for Life" or "The Agony and the Ecstasy," I will seek them out.

343 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:17:21pm

re: #319 Slumbering Behemoth

Put a piece of tape on the bottom of the mouse, over the track-ball.

Or just switch the settings for the left and right mouse buttons.

344 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:17:26pm

re: #336 MandyManners

Have a really powerful magnet?


Man, and lose all the data around here? They'd never find my corpse.

345 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:17:29pm

re: #332 Slumbering Behemoth

Find a "hunt and peck" typist and rearrange the keys on their keyboard.

Set their language to anything foreign.

346 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:17:51pm

re: #326 OldLineTexan

On the first step of one of the bridges across the Riverwalk in downtown San Antonio ...

How 'bout at the bottom of an escalator...........

347 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:17:56pm

I'm going to write this comment, but... with a signing statement.

348 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:18:01pm

re: #341 godfrey

Some read the Bible like Osama reads the Koran, but it's difficult to generalize. I have audio of a S Baptist preacher reading allegorically. My guess is that the overall Prot approach to Genesis is chaotic because Prot is chaotic. Often enough, that is.

What does "Prot" mean?

349 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:18:44pm

re: #343 Bloodnok

Or just switch the settings for the left and right mouse buttons.

dude, that is completely evil. i couldn't think of something like that! I would probably just hide the power cord.

350 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:18:54pm

re: #312 jcm

Find a logged in computer. Set the desktop to white, the folders to white, and the text to white.........

That one is just AWESOME! I used to take screenshots of innocuous webpages and set them as desktop backgrounds. "Why can't I close this webpage"?

351 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:19:16pm

re: #313 useless

So, someone catch me if I am wrong here, but Creationists think that the bible is true based off of the fact that the bible exists?

"Why should we be afraid to test our worldview against reality?” asked Bill Jack, a Christian leadership instructor who leads groups across the country for a company called Biblically Correct Tours. “If Christianity is true, it better be true in the natural history museums and in the zoos.”"

The bible is it's own evidence that it is true and correc? Is this not somehow a flawed scientific principal? Wasn't this decided back in the 1500's? I wonder too if these morons are going to start demanding that the sun rotate around the earth now, in order to prove Christianity.

First- I love your avatar.

Second- yes. They think the fact the Bible exists is enough to prove it's true. It's a similar line of thinking with muslims concerning islam and the koran.

I'm still waiting for a Biblical literalist to tell me which of the four Passions I should read literally, because there are discrepancies between them. They never seem to have an answer for this. Go figure.

352 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:19:27pm

re: #334 jcm

No, I grab a screen shot of someone's desktop, then hide the desktop and use the screen shot of the desktop as wallpaper.....

It's amazing how much time they'll spend clicking on the "icons."

We put a screen saver on a friends machine that said "Press any key to delete all files"

353 brookly red  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:19:29pm

re: #332 Slumbering Behemoth

Find a "hunt and peck" typist and rearrange the keys on their keyboard.

Amateurs...
save the desk top a as screen saver.

354 Racer X  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:19:32pm

Open up this web page.

Set view to full screen.

Stand back and watch the hilarity.

355 Racer X  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:20:24pm

re: #334 jcm

No, I grab a screen shot of someone's desktop, then hide the desktop and use the screen shot of the desktop as wallpaper.....

It's amazing how much time they'll spend clicking on the "icons."

Evil. Truly evil.

I'm gonna try it.

356 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:20:31pm

re: #340 reine.de.tout

You are so evil!
these are great.
Next time I want to get back at somebody, I'm gonna call you.

A really evil one requires knowledge of regedit, and diving into the registry.

Up through WinXP all the GUI interfaces for windows are buried in the code. You can make the GUI interface in XP look like 2000 in themes control panel. But in the registry you can the interface look like Windows 3.1.

357 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:20:33pm

re: #354 Racer X

Open up this web page.

Set view to full screen.

Stand back and watch the hilarity.

My next door cubemate has a MAC. I'll use that, and watch the fireworks.

358 godfrey  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:20:36pm

Prot estant

Y'all are having fun while I hunt and peck on this damned thing.

359 Salamantis  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:20:49pm

re: #342 doppelganglander

Neat. Just did a quick Amazon search and it's called "Clarence Darrow for the Defense." Sadly, it appears to be out of print. I also discovered that Stone wrote a "biographical novel," as he called it, of Darwin, called "The Origin." If these two are half as good as "Lust for Life" or "The Agony and the Ecstasy," I will seek them out.

Used copies of Clarence Darrow For The defence available here - one of them for only #3.50:

[Link: used.addall.com...]

360 Basho  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:20:57pm
Morganucodon is a genus of early mammals that lived over 200 million years ago. 200 million years ago. We're talking about the Upper Triassic, in the early part of the Mesozoic. She is expecting apes? She thinks the only animals worth getting excited about must be primates? She is surprised by the fact that paleontology reveals a succession of forms, with the only mammals in the early Mesozoic being small rat-like forms? Oh, dear, don't introduce her to the Paleozoic, she'll be shocked at the mere fish that represent our ancestors of the time.

The real story here, the one that the staff writer for the Washington Post ignored, is that Liberty University is victimizing young people like that woman and making them believe that they are biochemistry majors when they're actually being intellectually abused by an anti-scientific propaganda mill. There was a time when investigative journalism was actually practiced, and this would be an opportunity to expose a disgraceful pseudo-academic fraud.


[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

361 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:21:09pm

re: #342 doppelganglander

Neat. Just did a quick Amazon search and it's called "Clarence Darrow for the Defense." Sadly, it appears to be out of print. I also discovered that Stone wrote a "biographical novel," as he called it, of Darwin, called "The Origin." If these two are half as good as "Lust for Life" or "The Agony and the Ecstasy," I will seek them out.

I'd be careful about that. Darrow was an atheist who despised Christianity. As such, I find it probable that he would have ignored or belittled the fact that Darwin was a Christian and his faith was why he was an abolitionist.

362 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:21:51pm

1) Sneak into White House offices.

2) Remove all "O" keys.

363 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:21:58pm

re: #339 bellamags

My dad just said "Colmes is a dick" ha ha LOL ROFLMAO

I brought my mother her LGF Cookbook this past weekend. She has never visited the site, but collects cookbooks. It was worth the price of the book just to hear her say the words "Buzzsawmonkey", "FlakMusic" and "MandyManners" among others. It's like teaching a small child to say something you think is funny.

364 itellu3times  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:22:08pm

re: #322 Sharmuta

And the reason why IDers allow for microevolution is because of the scientific body of evidence- they just cannot deny this happens, as pathogens are a clear example of adaptation. There are other examples as well besides micro-organisms, but I think the biggest issue is that the IDers have a false notion of evolution in the first place. You can see this in many ID/Evolution threads where they want to see a fish change into a cat. It doesn't work that way, but correcting them is an uphill battle.

Well, it's a hard problem. It's probably simply a matter of scale, and the limitations of the human mind. Sort of like when we try to reason about trillion-dollar budgets. But it is a problem. Some very similar things pop up in discussions of artificial intelligence or philosophy of mind - many supposedly sophisticated people will say stuff like, "Well, my intuition just calls for something simpler." So much the worse for your intuition, is what I was taught as long ago as grade school in another context entirely, but so it goes.

365 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:22:23pm

re: #352 LGoPs

We put a screen saver on a friends machine that said "Press any key to delete all files"

If netsend is enabled on a network you can send a message to a co-workers computer.

FATAL ERROR:
Click OK to Format C: Drive.

The only button on a netsend message window is OK.

366 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:22:35pm

re: #362 Sharmuta

1) Sneak into White House offices.

2) Remove all "O" keys.


"O" keys and "0" keys!

367 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:22:41pm

re: #327 reine.de.tout

i did see it.
we have the enemy telling us exactly who they are and what they intend to do.
and o and biden just keep ignoring them.
like they are not beasts who just stated they want us dead.
o is dangerous. biden is his useful idiot.
and we are in trouble.

368 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:22:47pm

re: #305 LGoPs

Long as we keep a grain of truth in them.......

Not so much with Pesach coming up...

But seriously, I was bread for puns like these.

369 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:22:50pm

re: #345 jcm

Set their language to anything foreign.

Stupid but true story. Years ago, living overseas I got a huge Sony Trinitron. I made the mistake of getting drunk while I was going thru the setup menu. I saw the different language selections and thought it would be interesting to 'hear' programs in Chinese.
It took me 3 frigging days to backtrack successfully out of the menu and get back to an English language selection so I could finish the programming.
Summa cum Laud I ain't..........

370 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:22:52pm

re: #339 bellamags

My dad just said "Colmes is a dick" ha ha LOL ROFLMAO

Your dad is a wise man.

371 godfrey  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:23:06pm

re: #362 Sharmuta

Set their QWERTY's to AZERTY's.

372 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:23:15pm

re: #334 jcm

No, I grab a screen shot of someone's desktop, then hide the desktop and use the screen shot of the desktop as wallpaper.....

It's amazing how much time they'll spend clicking on the "icons."

That is freaking BRILLIANT.

373 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:23:50pm

re: #334 jcm

No, I grab a screen shot of someone's desktop, then hide the desktop and use the screen shot of the desktop as wallpaper.....

It's amazing how much time they'll spend clicking on the "icons."

I am so doing that to my dad for April Fools' Day.

374 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:23:51pm

re: #345 jcm

Set their language to anything foreign.

Set the language on their cell phone to a different language.

375 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:23:59pm

re: #363 Bloodnok

I brought my mother her LGF Cookbook this past weekend. She has never visited the site, but collects cookbooks. It was worth the price of the book just to hear her say the words "Buzzsawmonkey", "FlakMusic" and "MandyManners" among others. It's like teaching a small child to say something you think is funny.

You didn't tell her what my nic means, did you?!

376 itellu3times  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:24:09pm

re: #327 reine.de.tout

?Genius Joe Biden: Only "5% of the Taliban Is Incorrigible"

And Sally is just a little bit pregnant.

377 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:24:21pm

re: #369 LGoPs

Stupid but true story. Years ago, living overseas I got a huge Sony Trinitron. I made the mistake of getting drunk while I was going thru the setup menu. I saw the different language selections and thought it would be interesting to 'hear' programs in Chinese.
It took me 3 frigging days to backtrack successfully out of the menu and get back to an English language selection so I could finish the programming.
Summa cum Laud I ain't..........

Word of warning....

Make sure you can quickly and easily undone your prank!

I'll usually practice one of my computers first.

378 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:24:34pm

re: #375 Sharmuta

You didn't tell her what my nic means, did you?!

I'm waiting to hear what his Mom thinks of Mandy's Guide to filling your car's gas tank.

379 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:24:39pm

re: #371 godfrey

Set their QWERTY's to AZERTY's.

Replace their QWERTY with a Dvorak.

380 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:24:50pm

re: #342 doppelganglander

Neat. Just did a quick Amazon search and it's called "Clarence Darrow for the Defense." Sadly, it appears to be out of print. I also discovered that Stone wrote a "biographical novel," as he called it, of Darwin, called "The Origin." If these two are half as good as "Lust for Life" or "The Agony and the Ecstasy," I will seek them out.

I got mine at either Poor Richard's in Colorado Springs or Musquaw books in Renton, WA, or in some other bookstore between Seattle and Ft. Bragg, N.C..

381 godfrey  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:25:02pm

Replace the O's *with* zeroes.

382 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:25:05pm

re: #363 Bloodnok

I brought my mother her LGF Cookbook this past weekend. She has never visited the site, but collects cookbooks. It was worth the price of the book just to hear her say the words "Buzzsawmonkey", "FlakMusic" and "MandyManners" among others. It's like teaching a small child to say something you think is funny.

How freaking cool..Very nice of you

383 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:25:06pm

re: #338 OldLineTexan

My uncle was the only soldier on active duty in the US Army to attend the WW2/Korean War internment and the 1984 Vietnam War internment.

That's amazing. If your uncle is still with us, please thank him for his service on my behalf.

384 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:25:07pm

re: #363 Bloodnok

I brought my mother her LGF Cookbook this past weekend. She has never visited the site, but collects cookbooks. It was worth the price of the book just to hear her say the words "Buzzsawmonkey", "FlakMusic" and "MandyManners" among others. It's like teaching a small child to say something you think is funny.

That's great. I would have loved to hear that!

385 brookly red  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:25:20pm

re: #367 nyc redneck

i did see it.
we have the enemy telling us exactly who they are and what they intend to do.
and o and biden just keep ignoring helping them...

had to edit, sorry

386 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:25:25pm

re: #381 godfrey

Replace the O's *with* zeroes.

GODFREY!
How are you today?

387 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:25:25pm

re: #368 LudwigVanQuixote

Not so much with Pesach coming up...

But seriously, I was bread for puns like these.

Have you been lucky enough to baguette that gift to your children?

388 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:25:27pm

Completely OT, but has anyone been following the Chinese naval antics with the Impeccable?

Obviously, everyone wants to see how far they can push us.

389 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:25:29pm

re: #337 FurryOldGuyJeans

I want one of these. Too expensive, though.

390 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:25:40pm

re: #368 LudwigVanQuixote

Not so much with Pesach coming up...

But seriously, I was bread for puns like these.

We don't knead puns like that here. :)

391 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:25:59pm

re: #370 doppelganglander

Your dad is a wise man.

Ha! I know. he is pretty cool.

392 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:26:00pm

re: #375 Sharmuta

You didn't tell her what my nic means, did you?!

I was nervous she would ask! She didn't! I was prepared to engage in "Lying for Sharmie".

393 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:26:02pm

You guys are certainly planning April Fool's Day long in advance....

394 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:26:21pm

re: #363 Bloodnok

I brought my mother her LGF Cookbook this past weekend. She has never visited the site, but collects cookbooks. It was worth the price of the book just to hear her say the words "Buzzsawmonkey", "FlakMusic" and "MandyManners" among others. It's like teaching a small child to say something you think is funny.

So, how does she pronounce "reine.de.tout"?

395 lostlakehiker  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:26:25pm
“Why should we be afraid to test our worldview against reality?” asked Bill Jack, a Christian leadership instructor who leads groups across the country for a company called Biblically Correct Tours. “If Christianity is true, it better be true in the natural history museums and in the zoos.”


Well, Catholics take a different perspective. Creation, being God's work, is automatically true.

If an interpretation of Christianity is correct, it better square with the natural history facts. And these Christians, the most numerous of any single denomination, don't have the dilemma of trying to somehow shoehorn reality into their worldview. Their worldview begins with the premise that the world is real and true. This is wise, because reality really is real.

396 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:26:34pm

re: #344 acwgusa

Man, and lose all the data around here? They'd never find my corpse.

I can just imagine Jessica Fletcher's book about it: Deadly Data.

397 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:26:43pm

re: #380 MandyManners

That narrows it down. Thanks!

398 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:26:50pm

re: #392 Bloodnok

I was nervous she would ask! She didn't! I was prepared to engage in "Lying for Sharmie".

I'm a nice, good girl! Sometimes.

399 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:27:04pm

re: #393 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You guys are certainly planning April Fool's Day long in advance....

3 weeks...

400 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:27:20pm

re: #388 LudwigVanQuixote

Completely OT, but has anyone been following the Chinese naval antics with the Impeccable?

Obviously, everyone wants to see how far they can push us.

Its OK. Don't worry, Hillary is on it. They had a very "productive" meeting today.

401 godfrey  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:27:24pm

re: #386 reine.de.tout

back from r&r and almost out of battery

402 VioletTiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:27:25pm

re: #390 Dark_Falcon

We don't knead puns like that here. :)


They're half baked.

403 Achilles Tang  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:27:33pm

re: #312 jcm

Find a logged in computer. Set the desktop to white, the folders to white, and the text to white.........

You have done this? Evil evil person.

404 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:27:38pm

re: #368 LudwigVanQuixote

Not so much with Pesach coming up...

But seriously, I was bread for puns like these.

That's a rye comeback........

405 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:27:39pm

re: #391 bellamags

Ever notice how much the center unicorn in your avatar looks like Prince?

406 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:27:41pm

re: #365 jcm

If netsend is enabled on a network you can send a message to a co-workers computer.

FATAL ERROR:
Click OK to Format C: Drive.

The only button on a netsend message window is OK.

I always liked the program that displayed an error message that Windows has detected your Video card is installed incorrectly..
When you click ok..It makes the screen go upside down..

407 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:27:52pm

re: #378 reine.de.tout

I'm waiting to hear what his Mom thinks of Mandy's Guide to filling your car's gas tank.

She didn't read it while I was there. I think she started to wonder what the hell kind of site it was when she read Ward Cleaver's comment about Barney Frank "That's probably the cleanest thing he has had in his mouth" in the back of the book.

408 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:27:57pm

re: #401 godfrey

back from r&r and almost out of battery

Find an outlet!
Quick.

409 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:28:02pm

OT:

Bill O'Reilly: "Another terrorist released from Gitmo shows up fighting Americans in Afghanistan. What say you, President Obama?"

BHO: "Present."

410 Racer X  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:28:03pm

re: #389 Slumbering Behemoth

I want one of these. Too expensive, though.

?

$130 bucks for a blank keyboard?

411 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:28:13pm

re: #352 LGoPs

We put a screen saver on a friends machine that said "Press any key to delete all files"

What happened?

412 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:28:49pm

re: #334 jcm

No, I grab a screen shot of someone's desktop, then hide the desktop and use the screen shot of the desktop as wallpaper.....

It's amazing how much time they'll spend clicking on the "icons."

That is brilliantly evil... Would you care to join my army of crazed cyborg fanatics? We are planning on "vacationing" in Europe sometime soon...

We offer great health benefits (to those who survive) and we have a jacuzzi with a giant view screen hooked into the big honking laser array.

Fun for the whole family.

You will have to sign a waiver in case of early vaporization, but otherwise, we could use you.

413 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:28:54pm

re: #410 Racer X

?

$130 bucks for a blank keyboard?

I've used one. Increased my typing speed to insane levels.

414 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:29:07pm

re: #354 Racer X

Open up this web page.

Set view to full screen.

Stand back and watch the hilarity.

I'd hunt you down.

415 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:29:18pm

re: #394 reine.de.tout

So, how does she pronounce "reine.de.tout"?

Ha! In NH we learn French (big French population). She knew what it meant.

416 Cygnus  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:29:23pm

re: #30 Rob with a mind

I saw a billboard sign that said:


NEED HELP, CALL JESUS
[no phone numbers allowed]

Out of curiosity, I did.


An illegal alien showed up with a lawnmower.

"I am the Lawn, you are the grass blades...My Father is the Landscaper."

/a slightly reworded version of John 15.

417 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:29:25pm

re: #297 Bubblehead II

looks like I misrepresented myself.

Pops the top of a cold one.

418 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:29:32pm

re: #379 acwgusa

Replace their QWERTY with a Dvorak.

Someone put a Spanish keyboard in a conference room just before I had a presentation.

It's just enough different to drive you NUTS!

The laughter told me who's gonna' get paybacks!

419 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:29:33pm

re: #380 MandyManners

I got mine at either Poor Richard's in Colorado Springs or Musquaw books in Renton, WA, or in some other bookstore between Seattle and Ft. Bragg, N.C..

Thanks, that narrows it down. ;)

420 Achilles Tang  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:29:33pm

re: #411 MandyManners

What happened?

The user froze.

421 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:29:37pm

re: #405 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ever notice how much the center unicorn in your avatar looks like Prince?

Oh man. That's hilarious. I can picture him in some stiletto boots and a sparkly purple tuxedo jacket!

422 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:29:40pm

re: #404 LGoPs

That's a rye comeback........

Dough!

423 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:29:42pm

re: #390 Dark_Falcon

We don't knead puns like that here. :)

Your wit will crumble before mine!

424 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:29:52pm

re: #16 EmmmieG

There are groups that travel to Utah to study Mormons. But not with the Mormons. You get my drift.

"Indians have been cursed above any people in creation. Indians have anthropologists."

425 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:29:56pm

re: #415 Bloodnok

Ha! In NH we learn French (big French population). She knew what it meant.

I am most impressed.

426 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:30:10pm

re: #381 godfrey

Replace the O's *with* zeroes.

Replace the O's with W's.

427 Salamantis  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:30:11pm

One thing you can do is make a duplicate of a friend's housekey, and file off one of the tines, then replace the real one with it on their keychain.

428 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:30:12pm

re: #404 LGoPs

That's a rye comeback........

I gotta quit loafing and come up with another...

429 Basho  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:30:14pm

re: #375 Sharmuta

You didn't tell her what my nic means, did you?!

=O I had no idea!

430 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:30:31pm

re: #362 Sharmuta

1) Sneak into White House offices.

2) Remove all "O" keys.

Better still, remove all "H" keys.

431 Tigger2005  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:30:40pm

"Why should we be afraid to test our worldview against reality?"

Whoa, there. Is he saying evolution is reality?

432 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:30:54pm

re: #418 jcm


It's just enough different to drive you NUTS!

You're gonna love my nuts!
-The Slap Chopper Guy.

(Just never gets old)

433 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:31:08pm

re: #404 LGoPs

That's a rye comeback........


Are you trying to get a rise out of me? If you do, Obama will be the yeast of your problems!

434 Cygnus  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:31:11pm

re: #53 Shug

Young-earthers are the new Flat-earthers

And as an Old-Earther, I find them quite embarrassing.

435 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:31:25pm

re: #383 doppelganglander

That's amazing. If your uncle is still with us, please thank him for his service on my behalf.

I will. As a small boy, he sent me a set of cut-down tiger stripes and my own green beret. Last fall, he gifted me with his combat knife.

436 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:31:31pm
437 clgood  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:32:05pm

re: #179 Sharmuta

I hope so. And not everybody's journey will be like mine.

438 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:32:06pm

re: #416 Cygnus

"I am the Lawn, you are the grass blades...My Father is the Landscaper."

/a slightly reworded version of John 15.


Don't fear the reaper?

439 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:32:08pm

re: #411 MandyManners

What happened?

He jumped back from the keyboard and threw his hands up in the air like a cartoon character. Hilarious.
We used to do stupid things to each other while each was away on vacation........

440 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:32:09pm

re: #328 Salamantis

Instant Amusement!

Materials Required:

One high speed drill.
One chromed nut and bolt.
One high speed drill bit of the same size as the bolt.
One can clear lacquer.
One sneakily obtained duplicate set of boss' car keys.

Go down to your boss' car (works best with newer, more expensive models).
Drill hole in windshield.
Screw nut and bolt in place.
Seal with clear lacquer.
Find a hiding place with a good view, and wait for boss to get off work.

Voila! Hilarity Ensues!

Destroying a windshield worth hundreds of dollars is funny? I think you got the stunt screwed up, Sala. What you could do is to take that chrome bolt, saw it off flush with the head, and then counterbore the head to accept a powerful rare-earth magnet. Then screw the nut on flush with the cut-off end of the bolt's shank. You could then place half the apparatus on the inside of the windshield, and the other half on the outside, and the magnet would hold them together through the glass. It would look like the windshield had been drilled, but no damage at all would result.

Maybe that's what you intended, eh?

441 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:32:10pm

re: #412 LudwigVanQuixote

That is brilliantly evil... Would you care to join my army of crazed cyborg fanatics? We are planning on "vacationing" in Europe sometime soon...

We offer great health benefits (to those who survive) and we have a jacuzzi with a giant view screen hooked into the big honking laser array.

Fun for the whole family.

You will have to sign a waiver in case of early vaporization, but otherwise, we could use you.

SIGN ME UP!

442 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:33:26pm

re: #30 Rob with a mind

I saw a billboard sign that said:


NEED HELP, CALL JESUS
[no phone numbers allowed]

Out of curiosity, I did.


An illegal alien showed up with a lawnmower.

Friend of mine in HR once got a note on her desk saying "Jesus passed his physical."

She was happy to hear it, but unclear on the theological implications. Turned out the Jesus in question was one of the campus maintenance supervisors, and had hurt his back earlier in the year.

443 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:33:42pm

re: #397 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That narrows it down. Thanks!

I endeavor to render satisfaction!

444 Cygnus  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:34:19pm

re: #404 LGoPs

That's a rye comeback........

I refuse to rise to that.

445 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:34:32pm

re: #423 LudwigVanQuixote

Your wit will crumble before mine!

That barley qualifies as a pun.........

446 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:35:00pm

re: #440 Alberta Oil Peon

UhOh. An engineer showed up.

heh

447 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:35:18pm

We're safe!

Obama: Moving Guantanamo inmates won't harm U.S. towns

President Barack Obama said Wednesday that he would never put communities like Leavenworth, Kan., at risk in deciding where to relocate prisoners once the Guantanamo detention camp is closed.

Leavenworth — "where my mother was born, by the way," Obama said — is the home of Fort Leavenworth, site of a military prison and one of several places under consideration as a replacement for the camp.

"We would never put people into a situation that elevated the risks for surrounding communities," the president said during an interview at the White House with McClatchy and several other journalists. "That would obviously be something we would take very seriously as we make these decisions."

Aren't you relieved?

448 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:35:20pm

re: #440 Alberta Oil Peon

I still haven't heard if you got my package?

449 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:35:53pm

re: #439 LGoPs

He jumped back from the keyboard and threw his hands up in the air like a cartoon character. Hilarious.
We used to do stupid things to each other while each was away on vacation........

One co-worker can back and his cube was occupied by someone else, personal effects, name tag everything gone....

The IT guy is on vacation right now.... He and I have "religious war" over Mac vs. PC all the time.

The computer in his cube for when he comes back?

A Mac 512.

450 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:35:55pm

re: #436 buzzsawmonkey

I love it! The only change I'd suggest is to remove the word "gross" from the second line of the first chorus. Not because it isn't accurate, but in the interest of keeping to the music. It's nitpicking, I know. But I sometimes actually sing your parodies, so I want them to flow correctly.

451 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:36:05pm

re: #419 doppelganglander

Thanks, that narrows it down. ;)

Moving is always a treat! Heck, I have boxes of books I've not unpacked in four years.

452 Cygnus  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:36:31pm

re: #327 reine.de.tout

Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.

453 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:36:31pm

re: #420 Naso Tang

The user froze.

I woud've run, screaming.

454 Salamantis  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:36:36pm

re: #440 Alberta Oil Peon

Destroying a windshield worth hundreds of dollars is funny? I think you got the stunt screwed up, Sala. What you could do is to take that chrome bolt, saw it off flush with the head, and then counterbore the head to accept a powerful rare-earth magnet. Then screw the nut on flush with the cut-off end of the bolt's shank. You could then place half the apparatus on the inside of the windshield, and the other half on the outside, and the magnet would hold them together through the glass. It would look like the windshield had been drilled, but no damage at all would result.

Maybe that's what you intended, eh?

Actually, I was describing an actual prank that a master chief machinist played on a pilot's new Vette back when I was in the Navy. The nut and bolt being clear lacquer sealed, they didn't let air or water in or otherwise affect the windshield - except for the annoying sight of it in the upper left hand corner, and the whistling noise that it made in the wind.

455 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:36:49pm

re: #433 LudwigVanQuixote

Are you trying to get a rise out of me? If you do, Obama will be the yeast of your problems!

If you're trying to scare me you better hops to it......

456 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:37:45pm

re: #452 Cygnus

Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.

Amazing, isn't it?
NYC Redneck did a good job of analyzing that:

re: #367 nyc redneck

i did see it.
we have the enemy telling us exactly who they are and what they intend to do.
and o and biden just keep ignoring them.
like they are not beasts who just stated they want us dead.
o is dangerous. biden is his useful idiot.
and we are in trouble.

457 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:38:17pm

re: #398 Sharmuta

I'm a nice, good girl! Sometimes.

Talking with people "on the outside" about this website is a strange mixture of reality, a dose of fantasy and two parts complete insanity. No sense can be made of it. I don't intend to do it again!

458 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:38:28pm

re: #107 quickjustice

Well props to the Sunday School class for venturing into Satan's Lair for a few short hours! ;-)

Yeah. You know, at least they're going and they're willing to take a look-see at this stuff. It speaks to an at least slightly open mind.

459 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:38:39pm

What's on the menu at the White House tonight? Perhaps baby seal clubs?

460 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:38:47pm

re: #439 LGoPs

He jumped back from the keyboard and threw his hands up in the air like a cartoon character. Hilarious.
We used to do stupid things to each other while each was away on vacation........


Did he eventually laugh?

461 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:38:49pm

re: #438 LudwigVanQuixote

Don't fear the reaper?

462 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:39:00pm
463 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:39:23pm

re: #436 buzzsawmonkey

Damn that's good.

464 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:39:39pm

re: #447 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

We're safe!

Obama: Moving Guantanamo inmates won't harm U.S. towns


Aren't you relieved?

I WANT them moved to Houston. I have SEVERAL places to suggest. Fear not, it is safety first with me, so all locations have suitable backstops.

/

465 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:39:49pm

re: #363 Bloodnok

I brought my mother her LGF Cookbook this past weekend. She has never visited the site, but collects cookbooks. It was worth the price of the book just to hear her say the words "Buzzsawmonkey", "FlakMusic" and "MandyManners" among others. It's like teaching a small child to say something you think is funny.

Try the chili, it's fantastic!

466 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:39:58pm

re: #448 Walter L. Newton

I still haven't heard if you got my package?

Dang, Walter.

467 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:40:03pm

re: #463 Bloodnok

Damn that's good.

I tried to sing it, but couldn't make it work! Wah!

But it is damn funny.

468 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:40:11pm

re: #437 clgood

I hope so. And not everybody's journey will be like mine.

I feel lucky that my father protected me from religious fundamentalists while I was growing up. I wasn't raised in an anti-science household, but there wasn't a focus on it either. Most of what I've learned about evolution has happened in the last year since I've learned about the deceptiveness of the ID movement. I've always been more of a cosmology kind of girl, so YEC is something I do find to be weird.

469 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:40:21pm

re: #466 MandyManners

Dang, Walter.

What?

470 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:41:02pm

re: #449 jcm

One co-worker can back and his cube was occupied by someone else, personal effects, name tag everything gone....

The IT guy is on vacation right now.... He and I have "religious war" over Mac vs. PC all the time.

The computer in his cube for when he comes back?

A Mac 512.

What, you couldn't find a 128?

/

471 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:41:41pm

re: #301 reine.de.tout

Will do. I think the Lizard hoard will like them.

472 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:41:43pm

re: #352 LGoPs

We put a screen saver on a friends machine that said "Press any key to delete all files"

A friend of mine used to have "WHAT THE HELL YOU LOOKIN' AT?" on his.

473 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:41:54pm

re: #448 Walter L. Newton

I still haven't heard if you got my package?

Sure did, Walter.

Kind of puts my humble contribution to shame, it does. Thank you very much.

474 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:42:01pm

re: #460 MandyManners

Did he eventually laugh?

Yeah. He got me back while I was away by putting a jack under my Toyota 4-Runner and lifting the rear axle about a 1/4 " off the ground. I didn't see it of course and took a few minutes to figure out why my truck wasn't going anywhere.......

475 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:42:15pm

"Who ya gonna believe, the literal truth of everything in a volume that is not so much a book as a library, including poetry, erotica, quasi-historical chronicles, myths, spiritual teachings and some stuff that nobody knows what the heck it means - or your lyin' eyes?"

476 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:43:23pm

re: #469 Walter L. Newton

What?

Nothing. I spat out my cigarette when I read your post, something which I never had done until I started reading LGF years ago but which I've done several times since then.

477 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:43:32pm

re: #470 OldLineTexan

What, you couldn't find a 128?

/

I wish ;-)

478 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:43:56pm

bbiab

479 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:44:04pm

re: #469 Walter L. Newton

What?

MAISEY!

480 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:44:25pm

re: #473 Alberta Oil Peon

Sure did, Walter.

Kind of puts my humble contribution to shame, it does. Thank you very much.

I love the items you sent me, and they are on display with my other goodies. I just wanted to make sure the postal service didn't eat the package.

I'm glad it got there safely.

481 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:44:37pm

re: #474 LGoPs

Yeah. He got me back while I was away by putting a jack under my Toyota 4-Runner and lifting the rear axle about a 1/4 " off the ground. I didn't see it of course and took a few minutes to figure out why my truck wasn't going anywhere.......

Car tricks.

Run a jumper wire on the fuse block from the brake lights to the horn.......

482 ArmyWife  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:44:41pm

Good evening, Honcos! This house hunting garbage is really affecting my LGF time and it needs to stop!

483 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:44:53pm

Rush called Barney Frank a "butt boy" today. Is that right? did anyone else hear that?

484 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:45:00pm

OT Question from a computer dummy. I just found a cool photo blog with pictures from my neighborhood. Have never been on the site before. When I got to the bottom of the comments, here was my nic and e-mail info already there. Probably a word press blog. Is this how it works?

485 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:45:09pm

re: #480 Walter L. Newton

Wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more, say no more.

486 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:45:17pm

re: #477 jcm

I wish ;-)

I had one in 1984 ... burned out the power supply in 28 days. Upgraded to a 512 board, finally donated it after 1990 sometime.

487 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:46:00pm

re: #482 ArmyWife

I spent the night in Chesterfield last night.

488 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:46:03pm

re: #465 Alouette

Try the chili, it's fantastic!

It must be- it's in the cookbook twice. I can add beans to that, right?

489 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:46:09pm

re: #441 jcm

SIGN ME UP!


OK, here is the entrance exam to Ludwig's crazed cyborg commando unit...

1) Man eating zombies come from?

a) nuclear waste
b) toxic chemicals
c) retro virus
d) voodoo rituals
e) It doesn't matter. Shoot them in the head and don't get bit.

2) Say you are invading France. The best method is:

a) Through Belgium
b) Have your angry and religiously fanatical lower classes migrate there and form an alliance with the Socialists while vowing to tear down French culture and living of off French welfare.
c) Bail them out a third time, maybe they will love you now.
d) It doesn't matter. Just say that you are taking over menecingly enough and promise to lower the wine taxes.

3) You have just installed your orbital fleet of neutron death ray cannons. The best use for an orbital neutron death ray is?

a) A deeper suntan for Bin Ladin?
b) Turning Iowa into the largest bowl of popcorn ever
c) Invading France
d) Carving mystical looking signs and sigils into the English country side

490 brookly red  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:46:19pm

re: #483 bellamags

Rush called Barney Frank a "butt boy" today. Is that right? did anyone else hear that?

he has been using that term a lot lately...

491 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:46:34pm

re: #483 bellamags

Rush called Barney Frank a "butt boy" today. Is that right? did anyone else hear that?

he's been calling all the O sycophants "butt boys".
it's true.
i laugh every time he does it.

492 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:46:54pm

re: #487 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I spent the night in Chesterfield last night.

There's a country song there, somewhere.

I was in Lynchburg, VA once, watching a barge get blowed up a couple of times. Fun fun fun.

493 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:47:03pm

re: #487 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I spent the night in Chesterfield last night.

near Marlboro isn't it....

494 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:47:08pm

re: #483 bellamags

No. Way.

But, he probably played "My Boy Lollipop!"

495 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:47:13pm

re: #488 Sharmuta

It must be- it's in the cookbook twice. I can add beans to that, right?

INFIDEL!

496 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:47:29pm

re: #481 jcm

If a car has the old style hubcaps, pop one off and put a couple of bolts in there. *rattlerattlerattle*

497 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:47:47pm

re: #490 brookly red

re: #491 nyc redneck

I haven't been able to listen to him for a while.

498 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:47:47pm

re: #489 LudwigVanQuixote

OK, here is the entrance exam to Ludwig's crazed cyborg commando unit...

1) Man eating zombies come from?

a) nuclear waste
b) toxic chemicals
c) retro virus
d) voodoo rituals
e) It doesn't matter. Shoot them in the head and don't get bit.

2) Say you are invading France. The best method is:

a) Through Belgium
b) Have your angry and religiously fanatical lower classes migrate there and form an alliance with the Socialists while vowing to tear down French culture and living of off French welfare.
c) Bail them out a third time, maybe they will love you now.
d) It doesn't matter. Just say that you are taking over menecingly enough and promise to lower the wine taxes.

3) You have just installed your orbital fleet of neutron death ray cannons. The best use for an orbital neutron death ray is?

a) A deeper suntan for Bin Ladin?
b) Turning Iowa into the largest bowl of popcorn ever
c) Invading France
d) Carving mystical looking signs and sigils into the English country side

1. e
2. d
3. a

499 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:47:58pm

re: #494 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No. Way.

But, he probably played "My Boy Lollipop!"

go giddyup!

500 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:48:02pm

re: #493 albusteve

near Marlboro isn't it....

Richmond, but I smoked a Marlboro there.

501 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:48:06pm

re: #494 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No. Way.

But, he probably played "My Boy Lollipop!"

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwww

502 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:48:27pm

OT: Courtesy of Planetmoron. Conversation overhead at the Treasury Department.

Geithner: Mr. President, have you gotten around to nominating people for the 17 vacant positions below me?
Obama: What? Oh, yeah, that. Sorry, let me take a look at…
David Axelrod: Mr. President? Excuse me, but we need you right away. It appears the nation’s healthcare system still hasn’t been completely overhauled, our ten-year budget projections need to be addressed before the end of the day and your 40-year plan to reduce carbon emissions is in dire need of immediate attention.
Obama: Sorry Timothy, another fire I have to put out. It's a wonder I can get anything done at all!
Geithner: Um, sir, could I get a janitor to come around just to… sir?...

503 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:48:31pm

re: #500 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Richmond, but I smoked a Marlboro there.

that's Kool

504 Cygnus  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:48:47pm

re: #456 reine.de.tout

"Moderate Taliban" is an oxymoron.

BTW, have you seen the latest iPhone software? Sure to be 'ripping' fun!

505 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:49:08pm

re: #496 Slumbering Behemoth

If a car has the old style hubcaps, pop one off and put a couple of bolts in there. *rattlerattlerattle*

Ball bearings in the rocker panel.......

506 snowcrash  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:49:20pm

butt boy is like the new "brown nose"

507 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:49:20pm

re: #501 bellamags

No, really. He used to play that song for Barney Frank.

508 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:49:28pm

re: #488 Sharmuta

It must be- it's in the cookbook twice. I can add beans to that, right?

If you insist, but I don't recommend it.

509 ArmyWife  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:49:38pm

re: #487 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did you find a house for me?

510 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:49:45pm

re: #489 LudwigVanQuixote

2) Say you are invading France. The best method is:

a) Through Belgium
b) Have your angry and religiously fanatical lower classes migrate there and form an alliance with the Socialists while vowing to tear down French culture and living of off French welfare.
c) Bail them out a third time, maybe they will love you now.
d) It doesn't matter. Just say that you are taking over menecingly enough and promise to lower the wine taxes.

e) Have the German Army march in backwards. The French will think they're leaving........

511 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:50:18pm

re: #306 reine.de.tout

Catholic schools stand firmly on the side of evolution and science.

We sure do!

512 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:50:32pm

re: #498 Dark_Falcon

1. e
2. d
3. a

So close,

Bin Ladin is most likely dead. The answer to 3 is d. To properly rule the world, you need to keep the moonbats entertained.

513 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:50:40pm

re: #507 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No, really. He used to play that song for Barney Frank.

I don't think calling Frank a butt boy is appropriate on air...not cool

514 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:50:58pm

re: #489 LudwigVanQuixote

OK, here is the entrance exam to Ludwig's crazed cyborg commando unit...

1) Man eating zombies come from?

a) nuclear waste
b) toxic chemicals
c) retro virus
d) voodoo rituals
e) It doesn't matter. Shoot them in the head and don't get bit.

2) Say you are invading France. The best method is:

a) Through Belgium
b) Have your angry and religiously fanatical lower classes migrate there and form an alliance with the Socialists while vowing to tear down French culture and living of off French welfare.
c) Bail them out a third time, maybe they will love you now.
d) It doesn't matter. Just say that you are taking over menecingly enough and promise to lower the wine taxes.

3) You have just installed your orbital fleet of neutron death ray cannons. The best use for an orbital neutron death ray is?

a) A deeper suntan for Bin Ladin?
b) Turning Iowa into the largest bowl of popcorn ever
c) Invading France
d) Carving mystical looking signs and sigils into the English country side

1-e
2-d

3 is a tough one......
Multiple choice c&d!

Mom is from Iowa, OBL is already dead.

515 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:51:10pm
516 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:51:12pm

re: #507 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No, really. He used to play that song for Barney Frank.

Barney Frank is one of the most unattractive men I have ever seen. Imagining him with a lollipop is just flat out disturbing.

517 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:51:25pm

re: #513 albusteve

I don't think calling Frank a butt boy is appropriate on air...not cool

He has been referring to the media as the "Butt Boy Media" as well.

518 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:51:28pm

re: #509 ArmyWife

Did you find a house for me?

Sorry. Was coughing up a lung.

519 brookly red  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:51:47pm

re: #497 bellamags

re: #491 nyc redneck

I haven't been able to listen to him for a while.

by choice or by technicality?

520 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:51:48pm

re: #474 LGoPs

Yeah. He got me back while I was away by putting a jack under my Toyota 4-Runner and lifting the rear axle about a 1/4 " off the ground. I didn't see it of course and took a few minutes to figure out why my truck wasn't going anywhere.......

A couple of years ago on my Birthday some folks enclosed the doorway on my cube with 4" tape and filled it to the top with packing peanuts. Completely to the top..It was a mess but funnier than hell

521 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:51:55pm
522 Salamantis  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:52:03pm

How to revenge yourself upon a bank:

1) Have fake ID made up, and get a disguise to match.
2) Rent a safety deposit box from them.
3) Deposit a fish in it.
4) Wait.

523 Mirage  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:52:30pm

re: #489 LudwigVanQuixote

OK, here is the entrance exam to Ludwig's crazed cyborg commando unit...

1) Man eating zombies come from?

a) nuclear waste
b) toxic chemicals
c) retro virus
d) voodoo rituals
e) It doesn't matter. Shoot them in the head and don't get bit.

2) Say you are invading France. The best method is:

a) Through Belgium
b) Have your angry and religiously fanatical lower classes migrate there and form an alliance with the Socialists while vowing to tear down French culture and living of off French welfare.
c) Bail them out a third time, maybe they will love you now.
d) It doesn't matter. Just say that you are taking over menecingly enough and promise to lower the wine taxes.

3) You have just installed your orbital fleet of neutron death ray cannons. The best use for an orbital neutron death ray is?

a) A deeper suntan for Bin Ladin?
b) Turning Iowa into the largest bowl of popcorn ever
c) Invading France
d) Carving mystical looking signs and sigils into the English country side

1) e
2) d
3) b

We can eat the popcorn while watching Predators chase Bin Ladin

524 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:52:57pm

re: #515 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thank you veggie. Now I have a audible to go along with the visual. Thanks. No reallly, thanks. (runs crying)

525 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:52:57pm

re: #507 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No, really. He used to play that song for Barney Frank.

I here that ol' Barney is going to be in a play. He's going to be one of the Butt Pirates in Mutiny On the Booty. :D

526 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:53:03pm

re: #517 Jetpilot1101

He has been referring to the media as the "Butt Boy Media" as well.

what is the point?....it does not advance his argument

527 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:53:44pm

Speaking of april fools

“One thing kids like is to be tricked. For instance, I was going to take my little nephew to Disneyland, but instead I drove him to an old burned-out warehouse. "Oh, no," I said. "Disneyland burned down." He cried and cried, but I think that deep down, he thought it was a pretty good joke. I started to drive over to the real Disneyland, but it was getting pretty late.”

-Jack Handy

528 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:53:58pm

re: #520 HoosierHoops

A couple of years ago on my Birthday some folks enclosed the doorway on my cube with 4" tape and filled it to the top with packing peanuts. Completely to the top..It was a mess but funnier than hell

Guys at work got a cube panel from storage and filled in the entry for one guy.... no way into his cube except over.

529 Cygnus  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:54:18pm

re: #525 Dark_Falcon

I here that ol' Barney is going to be in a play. He's going to be one of the Butt Pirates in Mutiny On the Booty. :D

Like the "Raging Queen" bit they did on SNL ages ago. Manly men and their manly ship.

530 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:54:29pm

re: #519 brookly red

by choice or by technicality?

technical. not able to listen at work. i can only listen to top 40. if i hear "Live Your Life" one more time, i will hurl. (used to like the song until they played it into the ground)

531 brookly red  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:54:34pm

re: #507 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No, really. He used to play that song for Barney Frank.

"Banking Queen" aka dancing queen is much better...

532 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:55:08pm

re: #526 albusteve

what is the point?....it does not advance his argument

My guess is he is simply trying to goad the left and get better ratings. He's an entertainer after all and he's going to do what it takes to ensure he stays on top. Incidentally, the parody of Abba's Dancing Queen (Barney Frank singing "Banking Queen") is hilarious.

533 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:55:11pm
534 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:55:27pm

re: #522 Salamantis

How to revenge yourself upon a bank:

1) Have fake ID made up, and get a disguise to match.
2) Rent a safety deposit box from them.
3) Deposit a fish in it.
4) Wait.

A fun variation of that is how to revenge yourself upon an former employer:

Poke potato with fork.
Deposit potato in a spot where it will go undetected for weeks.

535 Shug  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:56:02pm

re: #502 Jetpilot1101

OT: Courtesy of Planetmoron. Conversation overhead at the Treasury Department.

Geithner: Mr. President, have you gotten around to nominating people for the 17 vacant positions below me?
Obama: What? Oh, yeah, that. Sorry, let me take a look at…
David Axelrod: Mr. President? Excuse me, but we need you right away. It appears the nation’s healthcare system still hasn’t been completely overhauled, our ten-year budget projections need to be addressed before the end of the day and your 40-year plan to reduce carbon emissions is in dire need of immediate attention. Rush Limbaugh is at it again and we need to work on our retort.
Obama: Sorry Timothy, another fire I have to put out. It's a wonder I can get anything done at all!
Geithner: Um, sir, could I get a janitor to come around just to… sir?...


fixed

536 jackfetch  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:56:04pm

I swear to God, the fundamentalist wing of the out-there, American, born-again-and-again, protestant, evangelical, circus-tent, Christian religion was created to make Roman Catholicism look open-minded and "progressive" (in the true sense of the word). I've always assumed they get a lot of press because they tend to make Christians look silly and blockheaded, and the enlightened press prefers it that way.

Haven't they ever stopped to think that maybe, just maybe, even if God did dictate the bible in pieces to some ancient Hebrew scholars (and as far as I'm aware, the only piece the Old Testament claims came from God directly were the Ten Commandments), that He wouldn't have tried to explain the ins and outs of setting the universe in motion in a certain way to effect a certain outcome, but might just spin it into an easily digestable myth?

I mean, I believe that God did create... well... Creation, just that since we're part of that Creation, things that we take for granted as "the way things are" like how atomic and sub atomic particles work, how waves work and all the rest of it... might be something He made up. What I don't believe is that God spent most of a week making everything out of mud.

{Personally, I love it when a guy highlighting his bible at the coffee shop tries to prove how wrong Catholics are by quoting lines at me. I mean, seriously, who does he think wrote the book?}

537 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:56:05pm

re: #528 jcm

Guys at work got a cube panel from storage and filled in the entry for one guy.... no way into his cube except over.

It was fun. Management finally made it a firing offense to "modify your cubicle". We made all kinds of arrangements.

538 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:56:05pm

re: #512 LudwigVanQuixote

So close,

Bin Ladin is most likely dead. The answer to 3 is d. To properly rule the world, you need to keep the moonbats entertained.

Sorry. How about this for question 3.

e. Char Achmadinnerjacket to a crisp. Make sure to not overcook his Gamey Buttocks.

539 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:56:09pm

re: #514 jcm

1-e
2-d

3 is a tough one......
Multiple choice c&d!

Mom is from Iowa, OBL is already dead.

Your check is in the mail... The correct answer to three was D, you need to give the moonbats something to fixate on.

When the black surgical van comes don't worry. You will like the particle beams we are going to mount in your new robotic eyes. Ohhh... the eyes also get 322 channels of programming for you leisure time.

540 ArmyWife  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:56:15pm

re: #518 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

that doesn't sound very healthy!

541 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:56:49pm

re: #532 Jetpilot1101

My guess is he is simply trying to goad the left and get better ratings. He's an entertainer after all and he's going to do what it takes to ensure he stays on top. Incidentally, the parody of Abba's Dancing Queen (Barney Frank singing "Banking Queen") is hilarious.

music in between is something else again....maybe I'm no fun anymore but homo jokes on air is not cool imo

542 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:56:57pm

re: #534 Sharmuta

The most disgusting odor I have ever smelled was a rotten potatoe.

543 brookly red  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:57:02pm

re: #530 bellamags

technical. not able to listen at work. i can only listen to top 40. if i hear "Live Your Life" one more time, i will hurl. (used to like the song until they played it into the ground)

oh, sorry... he still has a site, but i understand.

544 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:57:13pm

re: #465 Alouette

Try the chili, it's fantastic!

Which one do you recommend, RW2's?

I love to cook and want to try as many of these as I can. Although I don't think I can bring myself, as a man, to cook anything called "Pee-Wee Pistolettes".

I just can't. /

545 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:57:34pm

re: #527 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Handey's awesome.

If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.

546 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:57:36pm

re: #534 Sharmuta

A fun variation of that is how to revenge yourself upon an former employer:

Poke potato with fork.
Deposit potato in a spot where it will go undetected for weeks.

That's not how you fuck with somebody..Go to the bait store..Buy a thousand crickets..Dump them in his car..It takes months before the chirping goes away.
after a lot of work..

547 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:57:45pm

re: #542 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The most disgusting odor I have ever smelled was a rotten potatoe.

Truly a nasty stench.

548 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:58:03pm

re: #523 Mirage

1) e
2) d
3) b

We can eat the popcorn while watching Predators chase Bin Ladin

I like the way you think... Did I mention that we have a jaccuzzi and a wet bar with umbrella drinks?

549 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:58:09pm

re: #532 Jetpilot1101

My guess is he is simply trying to goad the left and get better ratings. He's an entertainer after all and he's going to do what it takes to ensure he stays on top. Incidentally, the parody of Abba's Dancing Queen (Barney Frank singing "Banking Queen") is hilarious.

I love One Night in Baghdad.

550 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:58:25pm

re: #531 brookly red

"Banking Queen" aka dancing queen is much better...

I imagined him in a Gay Disco, in 70's clothes, dancing to ABBA. Now I'm having trouble keeping my food down.

551 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:58:29pm

re: #542 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The most disgusting odor I have ever smelled was a rotten potatoe.

you have never smelled dead flesh?...a rotten potato is worse?

552 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:58:35pm

re: #542 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The most disgusting odor I have ever smelled was a rotten potatoe.

Simply the worst smell on earth. I found that out after Christmas break in college.

553 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:58:43pm
rapid drainage after the Great Flood

Uhhh, if the whole Earth was flooded, where did the fricking water drain to?

These folks need to stay out of church more often.

554 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:58:45pm

re: #540 ArmyWife

that doesn't sound very healthy!

Cognitive Dissonance.

A vegetarian who smokes.

555 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:58:46pm

re: #507 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No, really. He used to play that song for Barney Frank.

Still does, every once in a while...

556 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:59:11pm

re: #552 Radicchio ad Absurdum

Simply the worst smell on earth. I found that out after Christmas break in college.

I would say the worst smell is burnt hair.

557 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:59:52pm

re: #552 Radicchio ad Absurdum

Simply the worst smell on earth. I found that out after Christmas break in college.

Hey, newbie. Nice nic.

558 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:59:54pm

re: #551 albusteve

you have never smelled dead flesh?...a rotten potato is worse?

Oh gosh. You will try to find dead flesh to get the potato smell out of your nose.

559 brookly red  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:59:54pm

re: #547 Sharmuta

Truly a nasty stench.

Spanish Mackrel sushi will do just fine thank you.

560 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 5:59:55pm

re: #549 jcm

I love One Night in Baghdad.

I can feel a tingle running up my pants...LOL

561 Shug  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:00:08pm

I hear LOST is a rerun tonight.

can anybody confirm?

562 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:00:27pm

re: #549 jcm

I love One Night in Baghdad.

I prefer the original:

563 razorbacker  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:00:27pm

Suppose that you were a Nevada pol. Suppose that you were mightly concerned about the recent drop on visitors to Las Vegas and the cancellation of over 300 conventions to Las Vegas. What would you do?

Senate passes hotel room tax hike

I'll say one thing about this current economic challenge. It has totally destroyed the satire market. No matter what outlandish idea that you propose in jest, the ideas proposed by the actual pols will put them in the shade.

564 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:00:37pm

re: #556 Sharmuta

I would say the worst smell is burnt hair.

So sorry, but I humbly disagree. I'll take a mound of burnt hair any day over a plastic bag full of liquefied potato.

565 ArmyWife  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:00:38pm

re: #546 HoosierHoops

I might need to use this! GREAT idea!

566 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:00:49pm

re: #557 doppelganglander

Thanks

567 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:00:51pm

re: #552 Radicchio ad Absurdum

Do tell...

568 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:01:04pm

re: #506 snowcrash

butt boy is like the new "brown nose"

lol, exactly.
and he says it w/ such derision in his voice.

569 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:01:18pm

re: #564 Radicchio ad Absurdum

...*shudder*...

570 apachegunner  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:01:25pm

re: #541 albusteve

music in between is something else again....maybe I'm no fun anymore but homo jokes on air is not cool imo

what. homo(s) don't poke jokes at straight people?

571 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:01:25pm

re: #561 Shug

I hear LOST is a rerun tonight.

can anybody confirm?

Rerun.

572 Salamantis  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:01:31pm

re: #556 Sharmuta

I would say the worst smell is burnt hair.

Skunks really stink. So does buzzard vomit.

I know because I have had the horrible misfortune of hitting both of them in my car.

573 Shug  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:01:45pm

The worst smell is a rotten potatoe

/JDQ

574 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:02:01pm

re: #553 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Uhhh, if the whole Earth was flooded, where did the fricking water drain to?

These folks need to stay out of church more often.

Don't you realize that God did not kill the fish or the ducks with the flood? They drank the water. Geeze. You don't understand creation science at all!

//////

575 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:02:11pm

re: #563 razorbacker

poopy link!

576 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:02:44pm

re: #558 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh gosh. You will try to find dead flesh to get the potato smell out of your nose.

I guess in my sheltered , sophisticated life I've never smelt a potato that's liquified...no comprende amigo

577 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:03:18pm

re: #576 albusteve

I guess in my sheltered , sophisticated life I've never smelt a potato that's liquified...no comprende amigo

I found half a bag in the pantry once ... truly epic.

578 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:03:29pm

re: #563 razorbacker

Suppose that you were a Nevada pol. Suppose that you were mightly concerned about the recent drop on visitors to Las Vegas and the cancellation of over 300 conventions to Las Vegas. What would you do?

Senate passes hotel room tax hike

I'll say one thing about this current economic challenge. It has totally destroyed the satire market. No matter what outlandish idea that you propose in jest, the ideas proposed by the actual pols will put them in the shade.

next....the pennies on your eyes

579 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:03:42pm

re: #572 Salamantis

Skunks really stink. So does buzzard vomit.

I know because I have had the horrible misfortune of hitting both of them in my car.

I smelled a pig sty once that took years to get out of my memory.....

580 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:03:45pm

re: #561 Shug

I hear LOST is a rerun tonight.

can anybody confirm?

Yes, they are taking a two week break, they are repeating last week's episode again.

581 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:04:22pm

re: #577 OldLineTexan

I found half a bag in the pantry once ... truly epic.

that's why I don't hang out with you...

582 Racer X  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:04:29pm

re: #563 razorbacker

Suppose that you were a Nevada pol. Suppose that you were mightly concerned about the recent drop on visitors to Las Vegas and the cancellation of over 300 conventions to Las Vegas. What would you do?

Senate passes hotel room tax hike

I'll say one thing about this current economic challenge. It has totally destroyed the satire market. No matter what outlandish idea that you propose in jest, the ideas proposed by the actual pols will put them in the shade.

Rush was ranting about this today. Kerry, Dodd, et al are badmouthing the travel industry saying how wrong it is for corporations to have off-site meetings right now. Do they know they are killing the hotel / travel industry? Probably.

They do not care.

583 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:04:50pm

re: #577 OldLineTexan

The perfect word for it...epic.

584 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:05:32pm

re: #570 apachegunner

what. homo(s) don't poke jokes at straight people?

maybe they do...so what's the point?

585 Cygnus  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:05:48pm

re: #579 LGoPs

I smelled a pig sty once that took years to get out of my memory.....

I was assigned to Altus AFB, OK for a while. There was (and probably still is) a feedlot just south of the base. After a good rain and with a south wind (AKA "The Brown Breeze") things would get to smelling quite ripe!

586 apachegunner  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:05:57pm

by the way, hello from Birmingham lizards

587 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:05:58pm

re: #576 albusteve

I guess in my sheltered , sophisticated life I've never smelt a potato that's liquefied...no comprende amigo

Quite easy to do really. All you need is about 5lbs. of potatoes (any variety will do). Forget that you put it in a dark drawer in your kitchen. Wait a month, maybe two . . .and PRESTO: liquefied potato with a stench that makes you believe that Hell truly exists.

588 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:06:13pm

re: #542 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The most disgusting odor I have ever smelled was a rotten potatoe.

Dan Quayle, is that you?

589 apachegunner  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:06:28pm

re: #584 albusteve whats your point?

590 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:07:08pm
591 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:07:21pm

re: #588 Cato the Elder

Dan Quayle, is that you?

707!

592 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:07:27pm

re: #589 apachegunner

whats your point?

my point was stated earlier up thread

593 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:07:27pm

More Handey:

I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.

594 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:07:37pm

re: #564 Radicchio ad Absurdum

Many years ago I had an accident trying to light a friends gas burning heater- the flame burst out, and burned my hand and a clump of my hair. Thankfully, my face wasn't in the way, but my hair was long, so it took a hit. I was taken to the ER for the burn and given a tetanus booster (which I was due for anyways) but I sat there for hours waiting for a stupid shot and smelling burnt hair. I never want to smell burnt hair ever again.

595 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:08:03pm

re: #590 buzzsawmonkey

That's what's known as Edgar Allen Poe-tato.

Don't you need to bury that in the floor next to the Telltale Heart?

596 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:08:13pm

re: #579 LGoPs

OK! We have a winner. Pig farms are the worst smell ever.

597 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:08:16pm

re: #578 albusteve

next....the pennies on your eyes

Old joke (from like when I was ten)

Kid: Grandma? Why did they put those quarters over Grandpa's eyes in the coffin?

Grandma: To pay his way over the River Jordan, child.

Kid: Well, I hope Grandpa can swim, cause I stoled 'em!

598 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:08:44pm

re: #590 buzzsawmonkey

That's what's known as Edgar Allen Poe-tato.

Quoth the Raven: Norgold more . . .

599 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:08:45pm
600 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:08:50pm

re: #590 buzzsawmonkey

That's what's known as Edgar Allen Poe-tato.

Or Spudyard Kipling.

601 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:09:01pm

re: #534 Sharmuta

A fun variation of that is how to revenge yourself upon an former employer:

Poke potato with fork.
Deposit potato in a spot where it will go undetected for weeks.

The divorce version when you're the one to lose the house: fill the hollow centers of round, metal curtain rods with shrimp.

602 apachegunner  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:09:17pm

re: #592 albusteve if it was beyond 541 I missed it, something relative to the conversation?

603 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:09:25pm

re: #594 Sharmuta

Okay . . .THAT I can understand. My sympathies. :)

604 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:09:43pm

re: #601 MandyManners

The divorce version when you're the one to lose the house: fill the hollow centers of round, metal curtain rods with shrimp.

*Note to self: stay on Mandy's good side.*

605 BatGuano  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:09:49pm

re: #572 Salamantis

Skunks really stink. So does buzzard vomit.

I know because I have had the horrible misfortune of hitting both of them in my car.

Anybody smelled catfish bait?

606 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:09:51pm

re: #564 Radicchio ad Absurdum While my Mother was away on vacation, the fridge in her basement died. We didn't realize it until a few days later when i went to check on her house and noticed the smell. Well, my daughter and I had to clean the damn thing out. There was a turkey in the freezer that thawed and turned to complete mush! It was decomp to the max! We were bother running in and out of the basement and throwing up until we finally got it all out. The smell was in our clothes! We decided to take our shirts off and drive really fast down the road to blow the stink off. It didn't work. Now THAT is nasty.

607 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:09:55pm

re: #585 Cygnus

I was assigned to Altus AFB, OK for a while. There was (and probably still is) a feedlot just south of the base. After a good rain and with a south wind (AKA "The Brown Breeze") things would get to smelling quite ripe!

Occasionally I drive between LA and San Francisco on I-5 and about halfway in between there's a huge cattle spread. It has to be one of the vilest smells I've ever smelled in my life. I've learned to try to seal the car miles before I get there but it only helps a little. Especially in warm weather.

608 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:10:23pm

re: #596 Sharmuta

OK! We have a winner. Pig farms are the worst smell ever.

in August...90deg with 80% humidity....potato like

609 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:10:37pm

Ok here is the most evil practical joke ever (from college).

Explain the following evil bit of physics to your non physicist roomate.

1. Hook up a high voltage generator to a piece of tin foil on one lead and a wire on the other. High voltage, no amps. You just want a big potential differnence. you don't want permanent injuries.

2. Put the tin foil underneath the bathroom rug and the other lead into the toilet tank.

3. Explain that ions in water are what carries current and that by standing on the carpet, he will have a lot of electrons stripped off of him. When he pees, he will complete the circuit and get them back.

4. As your buddy considers this explain the pain of an electrical arc bouncing up his stream to a private place.

5. Mention that it is no problem, because a voltage generator would be easy to detect from the red on light and the loud hum.

6. Put a remote controlled box with knobs and dials in the bathroom off to the side... make sure it hums.

7. Turn it on when your roomate groggily goes in to do his morning thing. He will see the red light, hear the humm and jump.

610 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:10:43pm

re: #588 Cato the Elder

That was on purpose, was counting posts...

Kind of like a smart ass race.

611 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:11:13pm

re: #602 apachegunner

if it was beyond 541 I missed it, something relative to the conversation?

no not really anymore...it's a gonner

612 BatGuano  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:11:43pm

re: #585 Cygnus

I have fond memories of visitng and living in Altus, OK.

613 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:11:55pm

re: #610 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That was on purpose, was counting posts...

Kind of like a smart ass race.

Did I win? Did I? Did I?

;^)

614 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:12:04pm

re: #606 UberInfidel67

While my Mother was away on vacation, the fridge in her basement died. We didn't realize it until a few days later when i went to check on her house and noticed the smell. Well, my daughter and I had to clean the damn thing out. There was a turkey in the freezer that thawed and turned to complete mush! It was decomp to the max! We were bother running in and out of the basement and throwing up until we finally got it all out. The smell was in our clothes! We decided to take our shirts off and drive really fast down the road to blow the stink off. It didn't work. Now THAT is nasty.

and my wife is wondering why I am laughing and gagging at the same time.

615 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:12:05pm

re: #601 MandyManners

The divorce version when you're the one to lose the house: fill the hollow centers of round, metal curtain rods with shrimp.

That is evil. But funny........

616 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:12:05pm

Darwin Award Honorable Mention candidate:

Woman Injured in Power Tool Sex Toy Encounter

LEXINGTON PARK, Md. -- Some sexual experimentation landed a southern Maryland woman in a hospital with injuries tough to imagine and even more difficult to forget.

Maryland State Police airlifted the 27-year-old woman to Prince George's County Hospital Center early Sunday morning after she was injured in an incident involving a sex toy attached to a saber saw blade, TheBayNet.com first reported.

The man who called 911 about the incident admitted attaching the sex toy to the saw and then using the high-powered, homemade device on his partner, according to the St. Mary's County Sheriff's Office.

The saw cut through the plastic toy and wounded the woman, according to TheBayNet.com. The injuries were severe enough for medevac, but the woman was released from the hospital Monday and is recovering from her unusual injuries.

Investigators talked to the woman, who told them she suffered the injuries during a consensual act and that she and her partner were trying something new and no crime was committed, the sheriff's office said.

617 apachegunner  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:12:11pm

re: #611 albusteve

no not really anymore...it's a gonner


yes, i agree. doesn't make sense to quibble over nothing.

618 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:12:18pm

re: #591 HoosierHoops

707!

I really want to get that. Really I do. But I don't.

619 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:12:22pm

re: #608 albusteve

in August...90deg with 80% humidity....potato like

Drove past a pork plant once. Couldn't eat bacon for a year and a half afterwards.

But I've been through Iowa a few times. The worst was a patch that had a pig farm next to a turkey farm.

620 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:12:44pm

re: #599 buzzsawmonkey

Nah. Just wall it up in the wine cellar.

Can't do that. I'm saving that for walling in Dick Durbin. I just need to figure out what to use as bait...

621 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:12:51pm

re: #613 Cato the Elder

Did I win? Did I? Did I?

;^)

You are the wiener.

622 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:13:32pm

re: #619 Sharmuta

Drove past a pork plant once. Couldn't eat bacon for a year and a half afterwards.

But I've been through Iowa a few times. The worst was a patch that had a pig farm next to a turkey farm.

Albusteve, I may not be making that cross-country drive this summer after all...

623 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:14:05pm

re: #574 LudwigVanQuixote

You don't understand creation science at all!

Yeah I do. You read the bible literally and then create the science to back it up.

624 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:14:11pm

Does anyone own an IPhone and is there a significant difference in performance (or is it more storage?) between the 8 gig and 16 gig? Do you like it? I need to upgrade my phone.

625 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:14:22pm

re: #619 Sharmuta

Drove past a pork plant once. Couldn't eat bacon for a year and a half afterwards.

But I've been through Iowa a few times. The worst was a patch that had a pig farm next to a turkey farm.

yes...it is light years between food processing and the old Weber...you wonder sometimes what the hell?

626 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:14:23pm

re: #614 Radicchio ad Absurdum
I can only imagine that is what a dead body would smell like. The gagging and hurling was hilarious though. Even the bones must have decomposed because it felt like a bag of....of......goosh!

627 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:14:26pm

re: #604 Sharmuta

*Note to self: stay on Mandy's good side.*

Oh, I'm Little Miss Mary Fucking Sunshine.

628 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:14:30pm

re: #618 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I really want to get that. Really I do. But I don't.

707 is LOL but I fell over backwards laughing in my chair..
:)

629 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:14:42pm

re: #612 BatGuano

I have fond memories of visitng and living in Altus, OK.

Speaking of that....what does batguano smell like?
:)

630 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:14:44pm
631 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:15:21pm

re: #623 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Yeah I do. You read the bible literally and then create the science to back it up.


yep....

632 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:15:29pm

re: #581 albusteve

that's why I don't hang out with you...

What?

633 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:16:08pm

re: #615 LGoPs

That is evil. But funny........

It's about the same as pissing in your wife's pot of soup during a dinner party. (War of the Roses.)

634 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:16:10pm

re: #620 Dark_Falcon

Can't do that. I'm saving that for walling in Dick Durbin. I just need to figure out what to use as bait...

Use cheese. Rats like cheese.

635 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:16:35pm

re: #624 bellamags

Does anyone own an IPhone and is there a significant difference in performance (or is it more storage?) between the 8 gig and 16 gig? Do you like it? I need to upgrade my phone.

Only difference is the memory size.

Specifications
Screen size
3.5 inches (diagonal)
Screen resolution
480 by 320 pixels (163 ppi)
Input method
Multi-Touch
Storage
8GB and 16GB1

Cellular
UMTS/HSDPA (850, 1900, 2100 MHz)
GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Wireless data
Wi-Fi (802.11b/g)
UMTS/HSDPA (850, 1900, 2100 MHz)
EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR
GPS
Assisted-GPS
Camera
2.0 megapixels
Battery2
Talk time: Up to 5 hours on 3G;
up to 10 hours on 2G
Standby time: Up to 300 hours
Internet use: Up to 5 hours on 3G;
up to 6 hours on Wi-Fi
Video playback: Up to 7 hours
Audio playback: Up to 24 hours
Dimensions
4.5 by 2.4 by 0.48 inches
(115.5 by 62.1 by 12.3 mm)
Weight3
4.7 ounces (133 grams)

636 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:16:40pm

re: #630 buzzsawmonkey

"It was during carnival time. I came upon Durbin, greeted him, and said, "I still have a nest egg."

"Savings!" he cried.

"I have my doubts," I replied. "I had hoped for your opinion."

etc.

Works for me.

637 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:16:48pm

re: #626 UberInfidel67

I can only imagine that is what a dead body would smell like. The gagging and hurling was hilarious though. Even the bones must have decomposed because it felt like a bag of....of......goosh!

Sigh . . . . the things we do for mommy dearest.

638 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:16:48pm

Met a guy in a bar one time who claimed there was no real such thing as an Idaho Potato. Some kind of conspiracy (I am being totally serious).

I told him about my Uncle Steve who has a very large potato farm in Idaho.

Shut the guy up, I drank for free the rest of the night. Obviously this guy brought up the subject quite often. The bartender was ecstatic!

She was even happier later when she found out that my Uncle Steve is a dairy farmer.

As bizarre as that story sounds, every word is true.

639 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:16:55pm

re: #621 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You are the wiener.

I prefer to be known as a brat.

640 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:17:59pm

re: #637 Radicchio ad Absurdum
So true. *sigh*

641 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:18:03pm

re: #632 OldLineTexan

What?

I'll hang out with you if you promise not to discover a sack of liquid potatos

642 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:18:07pm

re: #633 MandyManners

It's about the same as pissing in your wife's pot of soup during a dinner party. (War of the Roses.)

Funniest line in an althogether 'black' movie. "Excuse me, I have to go piss on the fish"........

643 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:18:10pm

re: #526 albusteve

what is the point?....it does not advance his argument

Rush isn't advancing an argument. He's an entertainer. He happens to be a "conservative" entertainer who makes jokes about liberals. There's no dearth of grist for his mill, that's for sure.

644 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:18:44pm

re: #633 MandyManners

It's about the same as pissing in your wife's pot of soup during a dinner party. (War of the Roses.)

In college, I had two aquaintences who were dating. He was a chemist. He collected fish and spent lots of money on them. She was a biochemist. They had a really nasty split in the way that only college kids can have convoluted drama.

She poured some sort of goop into the fish tank that disolved them. It was a fetid pinkish brown mess when he got back.

645 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:19:38pm

re: #641 albusteve

I'll hang out with you if you promise not to discover a sack of liquid potatos

It's a deal.

/I never want to do that again

646 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:19:54pm

re: #642 LGoPs

Funniest line in an althogether 'black' movie. "Excuse me, I have to go piss on the fish"........

Remember the pate scene? "Woof!"

647 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:20:15pm

re: #603 Radicchio ad Absurdum

Okay . . .THAT I can understand. My sympathies. :)

It was terrible. Why they made me sit there for hours to get a shot is beyond me. Just give me the shot and free up this bed for someone who needs it! Hours of burnt hair stench with a clump of it right next to my face. Horrible.

But I recant. Worst stench is pig farm.

648 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:20:34pm

re: #646 MandyManners

Remember the pate scene? "Woof!"

Yeah. I forgot about that. LOL :)

649 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:20:41pm

re: #646 MandyManners


The moral of the story is that cat people should not marry dog people.

650 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:20:44pm

re: #622 Bloodnok

Albusteve, I may not be making that cross-country drive this summer after all...

Now you know why they call it "flyover country". ;p

651 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:20:58pm

re: #644 LudwigVanQuixote

Dissolved the fish?

Why am I laughing? That is awful!

652 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:21:00pm

re: #643 Alberta Oil Peon

Rush isn't advancing an argument. He's an entertainer. He happens to be a "conservative" entertainer who makes jokes about liberals. There's no dearth of grist for his mill, that's for sure.

of course...I see it as a distraction whatever his motives...I don't like the conjured visuals...I'm a new millenium prude I guess

653 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:21:03pm

re: #644 LudwigVanQuixote

In college, I had two aquaintences who were dating. He was a chemist. He collected fish and spent lots of money on them. She was a biochemist. They had a really nasty split in the way that only college kids can have convoluted drama.

She poured some sort of goop into the fish tank that disolved them. It was a fetid pinkish brown mess when he got back.

Now, that's just plain mean. She deserved some time in county lock-up and to pay restitution.

654 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:21:07pm

re: #563 razorbacker

Suppose that you were a Nevada pol. Suppose that you were mightly concerned about the recent drop on visitors to Las Vegas and the cancellation of over 300 conventions to Las Vegas. What would you do?

Senate passes hotel room tax hike

I'll say one thing about this current economic challenge. It has totally destroyed the satire market. No matter what outlandish idea that you propose in jest, the ideas proposed by the actual pols will put them in the shade.

Well, you've got a NYS politician pushing for a Pole Tax. That's even as Gov. Paterson has pulled the plug on trying to tax Internet downloads and sodas.

655 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:21:29pm

re: #609 LudwigVanQuixote

Thats a long way to go for some yucks. Why not just steal his beer instead?

656 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:21:33pm
657 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:21:45pm

re: #649 LudwigVanQuixote

The moral of the story is that cat people should not marry dog people.

yep.

658 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:21:53pm

re: #644 LudwigVanQuixote

In college, I had two aquaintences who were dating. He was a chemist. He collected fish and spent lots of money on them. She was a biochemist. They had a really nasty split in the way that only college kids can have convoluted drama.

She poured some sort of goop into the fish tank that disolved them. It was a fetid pinkish brown mess when he got back.

So help me, I could see him decking her for that.

659 BatGuano  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:22:16pm

re: #647 Sharmuta

It was terrible. Why they made me sit there for hours to get a shot is beyond me. Just give me the shot and free up this bed for someone who needs it! Hours of burnt hair stench with a clump of it right next to my face. Horrible.

But I recant. Worst stench is pig farm.

I can imagine. It is too bad everything doesn't smell like bat guano.

660 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:22:34pm
661 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:22:35pm

bbiab

662 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:22:39pm

re: #639 Cato the Elder

I prefer to be known as a brat.

That's the wurst pun ever.

663 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:22:52pm

re: #650 Sharmuta

Now you know why they call it "flyover country". ;p

just get to Denver and start from there...I teleport, it's a time saver too

664 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:23:04pm

re: #662 Dark_Falcon

That's the wurst pun ever.

LOL

665 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:23:32pm

re: #656 buzzsawmonkey

Amazing.

All these posts about various stenches and not one person has mentioned a large "peace demonstration."

The thought of hippies did cross my mind.......doesn't count though since I didn't post.

666 Syrah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:24:12pm

I would like to propose a tax on proposing taxes.

It's too damn cheap and easy for those cretins to propose them. We should make them pay for the privilege.

667 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:24:17pm

re: #554 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Cognitive Dissonance.

A vegetarian who smokes.


FBV:
Quit. Please.

668 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:24:20pm

re: #662 Dark_Falcon

That's the wurst pun ever.

it just had no schwagger

669 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:24:59pm

re: #564 Radicchio ad Absurdum

So sorry, but I humbly disagree. I'll take a mound of burnt hair any day over a plastic bag full of liquefied potato.

Obviously, you have never had the pleasure of experiencing a deep freezer full of squid. That was left unplugged. For a month. In July.

670 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:25:06pm

re: #666 Syrah

OT: picked up a copy of A Conflict of Visions.

671 CapeCoddah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:25:08pm

Hey everyone... My vote for worst smell is one of two things, first, a decomposing whale carcass, and second, a decomposing leatherback turtle. Stumbling on one of these at night during a romantic beach walk really does a lot more than sand to spoil the mood.

672 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:25:28pm

re: #668 albusteve

it just had no schwagger

Don't knock it.......

673 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:25:36pm

re: #667 Jim in Virginia

Going to. New taxes are going to hit, not gonna pay like a New Yorker to smoke in VA. I'll just quit.

Thanks though. That was kind.

674 Syrah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:25:47pm

re: #670 Sharmuta

OT: picked up a copy of A Conflict of Visions.

Me too. Its a great book.

675 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:25:49pm
676 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:25:50pm

re: #666 Syrah

I would like to propose a tax on proposing taxes.

It's too damn cheap and easy for those cretins to propose them. We should make them pay for the privilege.

Clearly your tax plan is from the Devil.

677 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:25:52pm

One more Handy quote, and then I'm out:

“If God dwells inside us like some people say, I sure hope He likes enchiladas, because that's what He's getting”

Later Lizards.

678 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:25:57pm

re: #668 albusteve

it just had no schwagger

I never sausage a poor pun.

679 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:26:12pm

re: #669 Alberta Oil Peon

Obviously, you have never had the pleasure of experiencing a deep freezer full of squid. That was left unplugged. For a month. In July.

Lord. Al. Mighty.

Uh, was the deep freeze ever used again?

680 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:26:18pm

re: #662 Dark_Falcon

That's the wurst pun ever.

Knackwurst pun ever, but close

681 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:26:18pm

re: #616 NJDhockeyfan

Looks like someone got their idea from this place.

F**king Machines.com

Defiantly NSFW.

/Isn't the internet such a wonderful place

682 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:26:37pm

re: #650 Sharmuta

Now you know why they call it "flyover country". ;p

Heh. Nah. I am going to drive someplace this summer. I haven't taken a real honest to G-d travel vacation since 1997. I think seeing the backroads of the US would be perfect.

683 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:26:39pm

re: #651 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dissolved the fish?

Why am I laughing? That is awful!

Yes. I saw the mess. It was very, very gruesome. One moral of the story is that the worst sort of science girl friend to utterly piss off is a bio-chemist or a chemist. They have access to really "fun" things.

684 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:26:40pm

re: #668 albusteve

it just had no schwagger

Oh, Schapps!

685 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:26:48pm

re: #669 Alberta Oil Peon

Obviously, you have never had the pleasure of experiencing a deep freezer full of squid. That was left unplugged. For a month. In July.

My God . . . No I haven't

686 Syrah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:27:07pm

re: #676 Sharmuta

Clearly your tax plan is from the Devil.

I am glad that you helped me out with that. After I wrote that, I was worried that I would end up with the bill. Now I can pass it on to Ol' Sctatch.

687 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:27:30pm

re: #639 Cato the Elder

I prefer to be known as a brat.

You have some kishkas bringing that.

688 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:27:30pm

re: #678 OldLineTexan

Hot Dog! That was funny!

689 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:27:43pm

re: #616 NJDhockeyfan

Darwin Award Honorable Mention candidate:

Woman Injured in Power Tool Sex Toy Encounter

Yikes!

690 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:28:14pm

"Contrary to what most people say, the most dangerous animal in the world is not the lion or the tiger or even the elephant. It's a shark riding on an elephant's back, just trampling and eating everything they see."
-Jack Handy

691 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:28:18pm

re: #572 Salamantis

Skunks really stink. So does buzzard vomit.

I know because I have had the horrible misfortune of hitting both of them in my car.

Skunk scent, in small doses, ain't too bad. I've noticed if I'm on a long road trip, and beginning to get a little drowsy, that a whiff of skunk scent really blows the cobwebs out. Some enterprising researcher should study that effect.

692 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:28:39pm

re: #658 MandyManners

So help me, I could see him decking her for that.


He didn't. Actually, he saw it and sat in the corner and cried.

693 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:28:44pm

re: #669 Alberta Oil Peon

...a deep freezer full of squid.

OK. I'll ask the obvious question. Why would one have a deep freezer full of squid?

694 Gearhead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:28:48pm

re: #666 Syrah

I would like to propose a tax on proposing taxes.

It's too damn cheap and easy for those cretins to propose them. We should make them pay for the privilege.

A tax on ALL legislation. Tax pork at the highest bracket.

695 CapeCoddah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:28:55pm

re: #669 Alberta Oil Peon

Obviously, you have never had the pleasure of experiencing a deep freezer full of squid. That was left unplugged. For a month. In July.

Um, that case calls for the lid to be sealed and the freezer tossed without opening it. Worth a couple of hundred bucks to replace it. Blech.

696 razorbacker  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:28:58pm

re: #605 BatGuano

Anybody smelled catfish bait?

Back in the day, we were commercial fishermen. We used something called a 'fiddler net'. These nets were baited with rotten cheese bought by the barrel from a Memphis concern.

Man, there is nothing like baiting nets with your bare hands all morning and then chowing down on a nice cheeseburger for lunch.

697 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:29:05pm

re: #678 OldLineTexan

I never sausage a poor pun.

you hit that one out of the Ball Park frank!....

698 Salamantis  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:29:19pm

re: #659 BatGuano

I can imagine. It is too bad everything doesn't smell like bat guano.

Bat guano doesn't smell too bad; just kind of musty.

When I was 12, there was a barn across the street from me with bats roosting in its roof joists; they shat guano onto the straw underneath. I had read that it was the world's richest fertilizer, so I planted some tomato seeds, and when the plants sprang up, I placed bat guano all around them. It must have been too rich for them; it killed them doornail dead within days.

699 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:29:23pm

re: #693 Mich-again

OK. I'll ask the obvious question. Why would one have a deep freezer full of squid?

I don't think it would take much squid, really.

700 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:29:40pm

re: #693 Mich-again

OK. I'll ask the obvious question. Why would one have a deep freezer full of squid?

bait

701 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:30:09pm
702 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:30:26pm

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]re: #693 Mich-again

OK. I'll ask the obvious question. Why would one have a deep freezer full of squid?

Because it is delicious.

Squid run in Monterrey, CA. Best.bar.food.ever.

Squid on stick in Taipei Night Market (be sure to spit out the beak).

703 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:30:31pm

re: #680 Radicchio ad Absurdum

Knackwurst pun ever, but close

That's just a bunch of baloney.

704 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:31:03pm
705 Gearhead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:31:40pm

re: #693 Mich-again

OK. I'll ask the obvious question. Why would one have a deep freezer full of squid?

Preparing for the great calamari festival, of course.

706 CapeCoddah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:31:40pm

re: #693 Mich-again

OK. I'll ask the obvious question. Why would one have a deep freezer full of squid?

Calamari!

707 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:31:42pm

re: #704 buzzsawmonkey

Why, to squeeze for the ink, of course.

Aha. So it was a tattoo parlor.

708 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:31:44pm

re: #655 Mich-again

Thats a long way to go for some yucks. Why not just steal his beer instead?


Well largely because it was one of those deals where he slept with one of her friends after she and he had a really big argument involving her drinking habits.

709 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:31:50pm

re: #703 LGoPs

That's just a bunch of baloney.

Someone's a sauerkraut tonight.

710 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:31:51pm

re: #704 buzzsawmonkey

Why, to squeeze for the ink, of course.

Yes. Squid pro quo.

711 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:31:56pm

re: #675 NYCHardhat

Has the MSM jumped off the bandwagon?

I can't belive Yahoo had that one their site.

712 Syrah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:32:04pm

re: #698 Salamantis

Bat guano doesn't smell too bad; just kind of musty.

When I was 12, there was a barn across the street from me with bats roosting in its roof joists; they shat guano onto the straw underneath. I had read that it was the world's richest fertilizer, so I planted some tomato seeds, and when the plants sprang up, I placed bat guano all around them. It must have been too rich for them; it killed them doornail dead within days.

It was probably the dosage that killed them.

Fertilizers can burn if they are too rich or spread to heavy.

The trick that I use with Tomatoes is to put a fish under them when I plant them.

713 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:32:06pm

So, Hillary says that the PA "unity" government must accept the Quartet's three requirements - renounce terrorism, accept Israel, and accept prior Palestinian-Israel agreements.

Senior diplomats said Tuesday that Clinton "reiterated" during her visit that the "Quartet and the Arab League are in agreement" that those three principles are ones that Hamas would have to adopt in order for there to be engagement with Hamas.

The diplomat's comments come amid attempts by some European countries to look for ways to circumvent the international community's three benchmarks that for the most part have kept the world from dealing with the terror group.

Anyone think that Hamas will buy into any of this? I don't.

Yet, that news report contains this interesting tidbit:

Meanwhile, Likud MK Yuval Steinitz dismissed the significance of a meeting between Likud MK Ayoub Kara and Syrian officials in Washington in January, before the elections.

Steinitz, who is close to Netanyahu, told Israel Radio that the official Kara had met was exiled Syrian opposition leader Farid Ghadry. Steinitz stressed that Ghadry's citizenship had been revoked by Syria, that he was not connected to the Damascus regime and that he headed a reformist camp seeking to topple Assad.

He also noted that Ghadry had been sentenced to death in absentia. The Syrian opposition figure had visited Israel in the past, and had even participated in a Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee meeting.

Kara, however, told Israel Radio that Steinitz's statements were inaccurate, and that he had also met with official Syrian government representatives.

Kara made clear that the meetings did not take place with Netanyahu's knowledge, as was originally reported by a Lebanese Web site.

Curiouser and curiouser.

714 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:32:22pm

re: #702 OldLineTexan

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Because it is delicious.

Squid run in Monterrey, CA. Best.bar.food.ever.

Squid on stick in Taipei Night Market (be sure to spit out the beak).

get the fuck outa here....do they pluck it first?

715 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:32:56pm

re: #710 Bloodnok

Yes. Squid pro quo.

Don't you mean squid pro quill?

716 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:32:57pm

re: #710 Bloodnok

Yes. Squid pro quo.


I'm a sucker for puns like that.

717 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:33:23pm

re: #701 buzzsawmonkey

Frankly, I think that the cruelty to the fish was disgusting--and the fact that this showed him what his girlfriend was capable of was an indication that he was well out of it.

Got to agree. If she'll kill your fish, what the hell is she going to do to the kids, or your mother, or your genitals...who the hell kills living things just to get revenge on a boyfriend?

718 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:33:33pm
719 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:33:38pm

Kanye West is on American Idol..He acts like such a stud. Every dude I know could drop him with one punch..what a inner city fraud...
/maybe he is carrying a weapon..ok..maybe he is a stud..hopefully a bad shot

720 brookly red  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:33:47pm

re: #714 albusteve

get the fuck outa here....do they pluck it first?

we have been down this road before...

721 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:33:53pm

re: #715 bellamags

Don't you mean squid pro quill?

Excellent!

722 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:33:55pm

re: #715 bellamags

Don't you mean squid pro quill?

the elusive quilly squid

723 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:34:00pm

re: #701 buzzsawmonkey

Frankly, I think that the cruelty to the fish was disgusting--and the fact that this showed him what his girlfriend was capable of was an indication that he was well out of it.


At no point did I say that she was nice, stable or someone I would want to date.

724 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:34:12pm

re: #711 bellamags

I can't belive Yahoo had that one their site.

I think the honeymoon was over before it got started. Barry was a two pump chump.

725 Ateam  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:34:34pm

Did I missed something? How can educated people prefer to ignore proofs concerning tests of carbonate 14?

Is creationist r offering reliable upon Bible studies? cause so determination should lead to the conclusion that the old testimony prevails more then Christianity. Sound crazy enough for me. Both ways theology & scientific.

726 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:34:51pm

re: #717 SanFranciscoZionist

Got to agree. If she'll kill your fish, what the hell is she going to do to the kids, or your mother, or your genitals...who the hell kills living things just to get revenge on a boyfriend?


Like I said she was not fun.

727 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:34:54pm
728 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:35:01pm
729 BatGuano  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:35:05pm

re: #698 Salamantis

Might have been a little too hot for them. I've grown tomatoes before and I always used a mild commercial fertilizer.

730 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:35:12pm

Its been fun. Later lizards.re: #709 OldLineTexan

Someone's a sauerkraut tonight.

That I ham......

731 razorbacker  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:35:31pm

Back in the '60s there was a market for freshwater mussel shells. I think that they were shipped to the Far East and used to make buttons and to seed oysters for pearls. Whatever. Before you could sell them, you had to clean out the mussels.

You do that by boiling the shells in big vats or barrels, scooping out the actual mussels, and throwing the dead critters away. That place, where you threw the dead mussels, that place stank.

The buzzards used to fly over in huge looping circles because they were holding their beaks closed with one wing to avoid the stench.

732 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:35:45pm

re: #724 NYCHardhat

I think the honeymoon was over before it got started. Barry was a two pump chump.

omg. that is the second time i have heard "two pump chump" in a week, and amazingly i have never heard that term. hilarious. (hey sweetie)

733 brookly red  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:36:01pm

re: #719 HoosierHoops

Kanye West is on American Idol..He acts like such a stud. Every dude I know could drop him with one punch..what a inner city fraud...
/maybe he is carrying a weapon..ok..maybe he is a stud..hopefully a bad shot

Who the F is Kanye West, and why should anyone care?

734 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:36:22pm

For our honeymoon, the wife and I flew Lufthansa to Europe. In flight movie was Der Rosenkrieg.

735 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:36:46pm

re: #732 bellamags

omg. that is the second time i have heard "two pump chump" in a week, and amazingly i have never heard that term. hilarious. (hey sweetie)

Well, I'm sure any man would be a two pump chump with you ;)

736 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:37:01pm
737 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:37:03pm

re: #728 NYCHardhat

Who needs to laugh?


LOL! His man on street interviews are ear popping.

738 BatGuano  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:37:06pm

re: #712 Syrah

It was probably the dosage that killed them.

Fertilizers can burn if they are too rich or spread to heavy.

The trick that I use with Tomatoes is to put a fish under them when I plant them.

That wouldn't work for me: I'd rather eat the fish. :)

739 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:37:10pm

re: #728 NYCHardhat

Who needs to laugh?

It's that, or cry.

"He's a good oratator"? Did that guy say "Oratator"?

740 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:37:10pm

re: #733 brookly red

Who the F is Kanye West, and why should anyone care?

with a nickname like sugar?....I agree

741 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:37:30pm

I've been overmatched in punning. Time to run. Later reptiles.......

742 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:37:41pm

re: #735 NYCHardhat

Well, I'm sure any man would be a two pump chump with you ;)

did you really say that? i am sorry mandy but i need to whack someone. LOL

743 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:37:41pm

re: #659 BatGuano

I can imagine. It is too bad everything doesn't smell like bat guano.

Rotating title nomination?

744 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:37:41pm

re: #727 buzzsawmonkey

Her name wasn't Lorena Bobbit, by any chance?

Wow no... But she would be the type to see Ms. Bobbit as a patron saint.

745 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:37:44pm

re: #739 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It's that, or cry.

"He's a good oratator"? Did that guy say "Oratator"?

Like Jesse Jackson!

746 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:37:50pm

re: #733 brookly red

Who the F is Kanye West, and why should anyone care?

Kanye West is a rapper, IIRC. I suppose his fans care...I have never heard any of his stuff.

747 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:37:53pm

re: #739 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It's that, or cry.

"He's a good oratator"? Did that guy say "Oratator"?

trying to say orderer...

748 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:38:10pm

re: #742 bellamags

did you really say that? i am sorry mandy but i need to whack someone. LOL

Thats a compliment sweets!

749 Syrah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:38:32pm

re: #738 BatGuano

That wouldn't work for me: I'd rather eat the fish. :)

I use bait fish. You could probably eat them, but you might not want to.

750 Ateam  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:39:03pm

Did I missed something? How can educated people prefer to ignore proofs concerning tests of carbonate 14?

Is creationist r offering reliable upon Bible studies? cause so determination should lead to the conclusion that the old testimony prevails more then Christianity. Sound crazy enough for me. Both ways theology & scientific

751 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:39:33pm

re: #714 albusteve

get the fuck outa here....do they pluck it first?

Plucked squid?

/sounds like a Navy joke

752 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:39:42pm

re: #739 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It's that, or cry.

"He's a good oratator"? Did that guy say "Oratator"?

Quote:

"He's a great oratator, like Jesse Jackson."

753 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:39:44pm

re: #748 NYCHardhat

Thats a compliment sweets!

; )

754 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:39:47pm

re: #749 Syrah

I use bait fish. You could probably eat them, but you might not want to.

Shackleton will eat anything according to legend

755 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:40:17pm

re: #733 brookly red

Who the F is Kanye West, and why should anyone care?

Hi Red..apparently one of the most popular singers in the world...
He acts like a stud..ala 50 cent. but I'm not buying it...I'd be more afraid of Chris Carter..( cause I know he really hits)

756 Luigi  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:40:21pm

[Link: www.smalldeadanimals.com...]

It reminds me a little bit of my experience with him when he was president of the Harvard Law Review. You know, I hesitated to say a lot about this during the campaign because I really thought maybe it wasn't fair. That maybe, finally, when he got to be President, this would be a job big enough to engage and hold Barack Obama's sustained interest, because really, is there a bigger job out here?

[...]

[W]hen he was at the HLR you did get a very distinct sense that he was the kind of guy who much more interested in being the president of the Review, than he was in doing anything as president of the Review.

A lot of the time he quote/unquote "worked from home", which was sort of a shorthand - and people would say it sort of wryly - shorthand for not really doing much. He just wasn't around. Most of the day to day work was carried out by the managing editor of the Review, my predecessor, a great guy called Tom Pirelli whose actually going to be one of the assistant attorney generals now.

757 Gearhead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:40:28pm

re: #739 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It's that, or cry.

"He's a good oratator"? Did that guy say "Oratator"?

re: #747 albusteve

trying to say orderer...

"order taker" perhaps?

"Oratator" sounds like the subject of a Billy Mays infomercial.

758 brookly red  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:40:34pm

re: #736 buzzsawmonkey

He's the rapper who announced that George Bush "hated black people" after Katrina.

Oh, that guy... did he ever actually sell a CD?

759 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:40:54pm

re: #753 bellamags

; )

You sooooo want to whack me!

760 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:41:14pm

re: #734 Jim in Virginia

For our honeymoon, the wife and I flew Lufthansa to Europe. In flight movie was Der Rosenkrieg.

Damn you, you made me look....didn't you mean The War of the Roses?

;-p

761 Syrah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:41:18pm

re: #754 albusteve

Shackleton will eat anything according to legend

Who is Shackleton?

762 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:41:20pm

re: #683 LudwigVanQuixote

Yes. I saw the mess. It was very, very gruesome. One moral of the story is that the worst sort of science girl friend to utterly piss off is a bio-chemist or a chemist. They have access to really "fun" things.

The moral to me is to not date psycho-bitch from hell.

763 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:41:59pm

re: #758 brookly red

Oh, that guy... did he ever actually sell a CD?

millions and millions and millions.

764 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:42:11pm

re: #758 brookly red

Oh, that guy... did he ever actually sell a CD?

A lot of them, actually. Sad to say, there are a lot of people who think he was right to say that.

765 BatGuano  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:42:18pm

re: #761 Syrah

Who is Shackleton?

Ted Shackleton was a Ewing on Knotts Landing

766 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:42:19pm

OT:
What national foreclosure mess? 32 counties account for 50% of nation's foreclosures. And many of those are in CA.

767 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:42:42pm

re: #756 Luigi

That's a little gem!

He hasn't changed a bit, has he?

768 brookly red  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:42:48pm

re: #763 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

millions and millions and millions.

quick! name one!

769 Unakite  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:42:48pm

re: #31 Soona'

I've never been to the Smithsonian. If or when I do visit, I'll probably spend most of my time in the air and space or transportation parts.

Go to the annex at Dulles. They have a space shuttle, the Enola Gay, an SR-71, and lots of other cool stuff.

770 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:42:50pm

re: #679 SanFranciscoZionist

Lord. Al. Mighty.

Uh, was the deep freeze ever used again?

No, we carried it bodily out into the alley for the trash collectors' benefit. I was helping a friend and his family move into a rented house. There was a bit of funny smell about the place. We found the freezer in the basement, and made the mistake of opening it. I'd swear that stench was strong you could have skied on it.

771 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:43:01pm

re: #763 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

millions and millions and millions.

Just another no talent ass clown.

772 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:43:06pm

re: #719 HoosierHoops

Kanye West is on American Idol..He acts like such a stud. Every dude I know could drop him with one punch..what a inner city fraud...
/maybe he is carrying a weapon..ok..maybe he is a stud..hopefully a bad shot

Carlos Mencia destroyed him.NSFW

773 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:43:11pm

re: #761 Syrah

Who is Shackleton?

the guy from the South Pole that ate a penguin then complained it tasted bad...

774 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:43:35pm

re: #752 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Quote:

"He's a great oratator, like Jesse Jackson."

JEEEEEEZUS!
It is lame brain knuckle heads like that that got "0" elected.
No critical thinking.
Is our country really that stupid?
It just pisses me off to no end............

775 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:43:46pm

re: #762 MandyManners

The moral to me is to not date psycho-bitch from hell.

I thought it was bad enough when I scrubbed the toilet with my stbx's toothbrush.

776 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:44:03pm

re: #762 MandyManners

The moral to me is to not date psycho-bitch from hell.

The only problem is, I'm sure that at least one of my old boyfriends probably thinks of me that way.

And I'm really not psycho-bitch from hell. Really!

777 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:44:10pm

re: #763 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

millions and millions and millions.

avanti has the largest collection in North America...

778 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:44:24pm

re: #768 brookly red

Can't.

Oh! Gold Digger!

779 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:44:33pm

re: #772 OldLineTexan

Carlos Mencia destroyed him.NSFW

I'd love to kick the shit out of that POS Chris Brown for beating on Rhianna.

780 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:44:51pm

re: #749 Syrah

I use bait fish. You could probably eat them, but you might not want to.

I know a real southern lady who told me about a soup her mother used to make with coquina clams. [Link: www.smithsonianmag.com...]

781 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:45:13pm

re: #766 lawhawk

OT:
What national foreclosure mess? 32 counties account for 50% of nation's foreclosures. And many of those are in CA.

I just had a realtor on my doorstep. He specializes in REOs and bank-owned properties. I believe you.

782 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:45:33pm

re: #693 Mich-again

OK. I'll ask the obvious question. Why would one have a deep freezer full of squid?

Well, calamari, when fresh, are pretty tasty. But I have to stress the "fresh" part.

783 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:45:34pm

re: #759 NYCHardhat

You sooooo want to whack me!

you don't even know how bad

784 Luigi  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:45:46pm

No, he hasn't changed. When he was at Harvard Law he racked up 15 parking tickets which he never bothered to pay..


Obama pays parking tickets 17 years late
[March. 8, 2007]

BOSTON - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama got more than an education when he attended Harvard Law School in the late 1980s. He also got a healthy stack of parking tickets, most of which he never paid.

The Illinois Senator shelled out $375 in January - two weeks before he officially launched his presidential campaign - to finally pay for 15 outstanding parking tickets and their associated late fees.

Harvard Law. Harvard was for him, the Law was for the rest of us.

785 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:45:54pm

re: #624 bellamags

Does anyone own an IPhone and is there a significant difference in performance (or is it more storage?) between the 8 gig and 16 gig? Do you like it? I need to upgrade my phone.

I just got mine Monday. Love it!

If you want tons of songs (it doubles as a full-function iPod), you'll want the bigger storage. No difference in performance. Since my main music library is on a 30G iPod Classic, the 8G model was enough for me. You can select which songs you want to sync with iTunes. Right now you can get one refurbished on ATT for $99. New will cost you twice that.

The available apps are amazing. I already have:

1. A bible reader from Olive Tree with about ten versions, many of them free. Hebrew, Greek, Latin, German, French, Italian, Spanish. The Hebrew and Greek will cost you. Oddly enough, if you want the KJV, it's five bucks, but the "Modern KJV" (whatever that means) is free. Ditto the Albanian, which I can't read for squat, but I downloaded it to see what Medaura's native language looks like.

2. Facebook (free).

3. NYT (free).

4. Google Earth (free, but I can't seem to make it work right).

5. The complete Liddell-Scott Greek-English lexicon (free).

6. The complete Lewis and Short Latin-English lexicon (free).

7. A German-English dictionary (paid).

8. A Portuguese vocabulary trainer (paid).

9. Chess, solitaire (free). There are lots of paid versions, but I'm a lousy player, so why pay to have a program whup my ass?

10. A "fake caller" you can set to sent a bogus phone call for those times when you want to get away from someone who won't quite talking (free).

Syncing with your calendar, contacts, songs etc. couldn't be easier on a Mac. Everything goes through iTunes. Probably not much harder on a PC, but how would I know that? Now every major computing device I have is Mac.

Good luck!

786 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:46:12pm

re: #783 bellamags

you don't even know how bad

*blushing*

787 Gearhead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:46:33pm

re: #782 Alberta Oil Peon

Well, calamari, when fresh, are pretty tasty. But I have to stress the "fresh" part.

Not so fresh and what you have is a lot of breaded rubber bands.

788 Syrah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:46:33pm

re: #765 BatGuano

Ted Shackleton was a Ewing on Knotts Landing

That was a show that I was never able to sit through.

789 Unakite  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:46:49pm

re: #53 Shug

Young-earthers are the new Flat-earthers

The earth was flat when it was young. It just got pudgy in its old age.

790 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:46:57pm

re: #776 Dianna

The only problem is, I'm sure that at least one of my old boyfriends probably thinks of me that way.

And I'm really not psycho-bitch from hell. Really!

You don't strike me as the type to kill a bunch of fish with chemicals. Well, on purpose.

791 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:47:13pm

re: #784 Luigi

Old news...we kicked that around with the rest of Dear Leader's crap sometime during the campaign.

792 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:47:16pm

re: #775 MandyManners

I thought it was bad enough when I scrubbed the toilet with my stbx's toothbrush.

LOL
You know I have a really funny story about a tooth brush and an ex that a buddy told me once..But I don't think I can post it here..
/let your imagination go wild..I ain't getting banned

793 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:47:31pm

re: #762 MandyManners

The moral to me is to not date psycho-bitch from hell.

My last ex told me how she cut up all the clothes of a boyfriend that had pissed her off. She had other tales of mayhem. Of course, she waited 'til after the wedding to inform me of her "behaviors". (Columbia PhD, IQ 167)

794 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:47:33pm

re: #779 NYCHardhat

I'd love to kick the shit out of that POS Chris Brown for beating on Rhianna.

I'd like to throttle her for GOING BACK.

795 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:47:33pm

re: #785 Cato the Elder

I love your apps.

796 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:47:42pm

I dvr'd "Big Trouble in Little China" the other day.

Thinking about watching it.

797 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:47:53pm

re: #787 Gearhead

Not so fresh and what you have is a lot of breaded rubber bands.

there is no reason for human beings to eat a squid....none except possibly starvation

798 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:47:53pm

re: #785 Cato the Elder

THANKS. I have a 30g Ipod already. Prob should go with the 8g phone.

799 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:48:08pm

re: #794 MandyManners

I'd like to throttle her for GOING BACK.

Yeah thats just called Stockholm Syndrome. Stupid girl.

800 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:48:33pm

re: #766 lawhawk

I've heard somewhere, I think it may have been on Rush Limbaugh a couple of weeks ago, that Nevada is by far the worst state for foreclosures and mortgages underwater right now. California is a distant second.

The national average for mortgages underwater is apparently a 17% now.

Nevada was over 40% and California was like 25% I think. If I had more time right now I would search rushlimbaugh.com and see if that's where I heard it, and if so what was the original source.

801 BatGuano  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:48:35pm

re: #749 Syrah

I use bait fish. You could probably eat them, but you might not want to.

It's fish. I probably would eat it. In order to refer to this to thread we are on, let me point out that I am probably evolving, returning to the sea, and my descendants will live in the ocean and eat all forms of sea life and will do so with opposeable thumbs.

802 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:48:44pm

re: #790 MandyManners

You don't strike me as the type to kill a bunch of fish with chemicals. Well, on purpose.

Not at all!

I don't throw things, either.

I do, however, object - strenuously! - to finding my vehicle being used for illegal purposes.

803 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:48:54pm

re: #796 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I dvr'd "Big Trouble in Little China" the other day.

Thinking about watching it.

"You know what ol' Jack Burton always says: What the hell!"

804 Salamantis  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:48:59pm

A word to the wise: If your neighbors have pit bulldogs chained in their back yard, toss them your table scraps. If they ever get loose, you want them to think of you as a friend.

805 Zimriel  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:49:00pm

Pharyngula has a link : Regulatin' Genes

806 Mirage  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:49:07pm

re: #601 MandyManners

The divorce version when you're the one to lose the house: fill the hollow centers of round, metal curtain rods with shrimp.

Hook up a pressurized air pump and you have the makings of a shrimp air-soft. :)

807 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:49:11pm
808 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:49:22pm

re: #766 lawhawk

OT:
What national foreclosure mess? 32 counties account for 50% of nation's foreclosures. And many of those are in CA.

What about the areas shaded in red?

809 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:49:23pm

re: #802 Dianna

Not at all!

I don't throw things, either.

I do, however, object - strenuously! - to finding my vehicle being used for illegal purposes.

There is a story there, just waiting to be told.

810 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:49:23pm

re: #806 Mirage

Hook up a pressurized air pump and you have the makings of a shrimp air-soft. :)

Ewwwwww!

811 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:49:28pm

re: #794 MandyManners

I'd like to throttle her for GOING BACK.

no doubt. that is a HORRIBLE precedent to set, with regards to her young audience. just not good at all.

812 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:50:14pm

re: #792 HoosierHoops

LOL
You know I have a really funny story about a tooth brush and an ex that a buddy told me once..But I don't think I can post it here..
/let your imagination go wild..I ain't getting banned

My imagination stops at one point.

813 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:50:22pm

re: #797 albusteve

there is no reason for human beings to eat a squid....none except possibly starvation

I had a squid "steak" at a bar in Monterrey ... it was an inch thick ... big old rectangle with some fingers cut into it ... breaded and fried. Tasted like the best shrimp ever. As tender as your mother's love. Man, it was good.

814 Gearhead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:50:23pm

re: #797 albusteve

there is no reason for human beings to eat a squid....none except possibly starvation

Squid rings I can handle. Octopus - no.

We were on a cruise a few years back and I pick up something off of my plate to try to identify it. When I realized it was little octopus I nearly chucked across the dining room.

815 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:50:26pm

re: #804 Salamantis

A word to the wise: If your neighbors have pit bulldogs chained in their back yard, toss them your table scraps. If they ever get loose, you want them to think of you as a friend.

It doesn't always help. It depends on how psycho the dog's become.

816 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:50:29pm

re: #804 Salamantis

A word to the wise: If your neighbors have pit bulldogs chained in their back yard, toss them your table scraps. If they ever get loose, you want them to think of you as a friend.

I wondered why our neighbors had pit bulls chained in their yards. Figured it out after my car was stolen out of my driveway.

817 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:51:08pm

China and USA to cool Naval tensions ?

818 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:51:14pm

re: #816 bellamags

I wondered why our neighbors had pit bulls chained in their yards. Figured it out after my car was stolen out of my driveway.

LMAO!

819 brookly red  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:51:23pm

re: #802 Dianna

Not at all!

I don't throw things, either.

I do, however, object - strenuously! - to finding my vehicle being used for illegal purposes.

OK, don't tell us... we really don't want to know.

820 razorbacker  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:51:26pm

Let us imagine that you are a trifle upset with someone and that person is so unfortunate as to park his vehicle in an area to which you have access.

You're not mad at the guy; you're not going to run a spark plug cable to the gas tank and dangle a spark plug just inside the filler tube. That would be wrong.

But you could remove the schrader valves from two tires each morning and then replace the valve after the air has escaped. Why two, because so few people carry more than one spare tire. There is nothing wrong with the tire, valve, or wheel and it will be distracting, as well as aggravating.

Or, you could take a syringe with a longish needle and inject doe-in-heat or skunk scent into the passenger compartment through the weatherstripping around the window.

Or, you could exchange license plates with another car. Who checks?

Vasiline on a windshield, anyone?

You know what? Those security parking spots are worth the money.

821 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:51:34pm

re: #793 IslandLibertarian

My last ex told me how she cut up all the clothes of a boyfriend that had pissed her off. She had other tales of mayhem. Of course, she waited 'til after the wedding to inform me of her "behaviors". (Columbia PhD, IQ 167)

My X's first wife did that to him. Of course, I didn't find out the truth until during our divorce. Let's just say it involved a TDY and an SDT.

822 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:51:39pm

re: #809 Radicchio ad Absurdum

There is a story there, just waiting to be told.

It's pretty pedestrian, most ways. Though I doubt he thought so.

823 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:52:07pm

re: #731 razorbacker
You wasted good mussels? Don't you know there are children starving in Appalachia?
They probably wouldn't touch mussels but that's not the point.

824 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:52:28pm

re: #779 NYCHardhat

I'd love to kick the shit out of that POS Chris Brown for beating on Rhianna.

Me too. While we were doing that, though, I'd have Mandy sit down with Rhianna. Mandy could explain to her how unlikely it is that a scumbag like that will ever change, and how she needs to kick him twice: Once in the balls, and then kick him to the curb.

But what I really would like is to have Russell Crowe pay him a house call:

825 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:52:39pm

Speaking of Women...
Mandy? Shar? Dianna? Lizard Ladies? Were you guys honored today by Hillary and Michelle? Eight women were honored today. Figured they all had to be "The Women of LGF".

None of y'all were around here while the speechifying was going on.

If not, I honor all of you.

826 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:53:08pm

re: #817 avanti

China and USA to cool Naval tensions ?

Let me guess ... relaxing underwear yoga, maybe a SuperSoaker fight?

/

827 BatGuano  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:53:45pm

re: #788 Syrah

That was a show that I was never able to sit through.

I understand. First season was good, then declined every every year.re: #765 BatGuano

Ted Shackleton was a Ewing on Knotts Landing

I am wrong. It was Ted Shackleford.

828 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:53:48pm

re: #825 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thank you, I am honored that you honor us!

829 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:54:05pm

re: #807 jcm

Shackleton's Way was interesting also. Did you see the movie? Well done.

Kenneth Branagh is a talent.

830 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:54:46pm

re: #829 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Shackleton's Way was interesting also. Did you see the movie? Well done.

Kenneth Branagh is a talent.

That and the film Endurance are on my list, haven't got to them yet.

831 abolitionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:54:46pm

re: #10 Sharmuta

Noah's flood did happen. It was localized, however.

[Video]

That 5-part vid was very interesting. Thanks.

832 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:54:57pm

re: #822 Dianna

It's pretty pedestrian, most ways. Though I doubt he thought so.

OMG. He used your car to remove the tags from mattresses, even though HE WASN'T THE CONSUMER?

/gasp

833 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:55:01pm

re: #828 Dianna

Thank you, I am honored that you honor us!

Well, it's some big women day thing. They prattled on about something...I wasn't really paying attention.

(ducks and runs!)

834 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:55:06pm

Mussels? Squid? Octopus?

I'm glad I keep kosher. I can't think of any really weird food that's kosher.

Other than petcha borscht. And the jelly from jarred gefilte fish.

835 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:55:06pm

re: #813 OldLineTexan

I had a squid "steak" at a bar in Monterrey ... it was an inch thick ... big old rectangle with some fingers cut into it ... breaded and fried. Tasted like the best shrimp ever. As tender as your mother's love. Man, it was good.

then you are deferred...I live in the desert, no such thing as a squid taco

836 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:55:22pm

re: #794 MandyManners

I'd like to throttle her for GOING BACK.

You know I would agree with you Mandy.. And I don't know what happened..What has been missing from this story is all the rumors of that women getting into guy's face and hitting them in fits of rage...
I was reading about those stories months and months ago..Suddenly..they all disappear..Something doesn't add up...And I'm not defending Chris..But what ever happened to all the stories of a pycho crazy bitch that would hit guys in crazy fits of rage? Something doesn't add up...
they may deserve each other

837 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:55:33pm

re: #784 Luigi

No, he hasn't changed. When he was at Harvard Law he racked up 15 parking tickets which he never bothered to pay..

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]
Obama pays parking tickets 17 years late
[March. 8, 2007]

Harvard Law. Harvard was for him, the Law was for the rest of us.

Thus setting the high standard for his cabinet nominees.

838 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:55:57pm

re: #824 Dark_Falcon

I loved that character.

839 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:56:08pm

re: #817 avanti

China and USA to cool Naval tensions ?

I think you misquoted that one. I read anything where BHO talks about the need to "ease tensions" to mean: "Obama to America: BOHICA!"

840 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:56:11pm

re: #821 MandyManners

My X's first wife did that to him. Of course, I didn't find out the truth until during our divorce. Let's just say it involved a TDY and an SDT.

Huh?

/speak English for the acronymically-challenged ;-P

841 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:56:22pm

re: #798 bellamags

THANKS. I have a 30g Ipod already. Prob should go with the 8g phone.

You're welcome. Don't be afraid of the "refurb" option. Mine was unblemished, not a scratch on it. And saving a hundred bucks - me like that.

842 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:56:23pm

re: #760 talon_262

Damn you, you made me look....didn't you mean The War of the Roses?

;-p

It was Lufthansa. English subtitles.

843 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:56:46pm

re: #799 NYCHardhat

Yeah thats just called Stockholm Syndrome. Stupid girl.

It goes beyond that. IIRC, the average victim of DV goes back seven times.

844 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:57:01pm

re: #834 Alouette

Mussels? Squid? Octopus?

I'm glad I keep kosher. I can't think of any really weird food that's kosher.

Other than petcha borscht. And the jelly from jarred gefilte fish.

ONE kind of locust, IIRC other Lizard's teachings.

845 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:57:23pm

Query for female lizards:

At what age did you begin your skin-care routines?

846 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:57:24pm

re: #802 Dianna

Not at all!

I don't throw things, either.

I do, however, object - strenuously! - to finding my vehicle being used for illegal purposes.

Worse than donoughts in a bank's parking lot?

847 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:57:29pm

re: #798 bellamags

THANKS. I have a 30g Ipod already. Prob should go with the 8g phone.

Did you see the new shuffle, 1000 songs, the size of a AA battery, $80.00, amazing.

Ipod

848 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:57:52pm

re: #834 Alouette

Mussels? Squid? Octopus?

I'm glad I keep kosher. I can't think of any really weird food that's kosher.

Other than petcha borscht. And the jelly from jarred gefilte fish.

Real Kishka? . . . Tongue? . . .CHOLENT?!

849 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:58:05pm

re: #806 Mirage

Hook up a pressurized air pump and you have the makings of a shrimp air-soft. :)

Squick.

850 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:58:25pm

re: #798 bellamags

P.S. I meant to mention that an iPhone requires a two-year contract with ATT. $175 fee to cancel early. I'm looking at it as an act of faith in the future, even though I'm unemployed right now.

851 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:58:27pm

re: #838 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I loved that character.

Me too. LA Confidential is my favorite movie of all time.

852 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:58:36pm

re: #825 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Speaking of Women...
Mandy? Shar? Dianna? Lizard Ladies? Were you guys honored today by Hillary and Michelle? Eight women were honored today. Figured they all had to be "The Women of LGF".

None of y'all were around here while the speechifying was going on.

If not, I honor all of you.

Thank you. Why did they miss International Women's Day?

853 lobo91  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:58:37pm

re: #821 MandyManners

My X's first wife did that to him. Of course, I didn't find out the truth until during our divorce. Let's just say it involved a TDY and an SDT.

I assume that was supposed to be STD?

854 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:58:37pm

re: #811 bellamags

no doubt. that is a HORRIBLE precedent to set, with regards to her young audience. just not good at all.

Do we have another Whitney Houston?

855 BatGuano  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:58:45pm

re: #817 avanti

China and USA to cool Naval tensions ?

That is per Hillary. I think the answer is, no. We have confrontations with the Red Chinese in the air and sea. They will probably probe us further too see if we are going to rollover.

856 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:58:50pm

re: #824 Dark_Falcon

Me too. While we were doing that, though, I'd have Mandy sit down with Rhianna. Mandy could explain to her how unlikely it is that a scumbag like that will ever change, and how she needs to kick him twice: Once in the balls, and then kick him to the curb.

But what I really would like is to have Russell Crowe pay him a house call:


[Video]

EFFING A FALCON! EFFING A!

857 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:58:51pm

re: #834 Alouette

Mussels? Squid? Octopus?

I'm glad I keep kosher. I can't think of any really weird food that's kosher.

Other than petcha borscht. And the jelly from jarred gefilte fish.

Pickled herring.

858 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:59:08pm

re: #835 albusteve

then you are deferred...I live in the desert, no such thing as a squid taco

Hey, I get outta the Gulf Coast every once in a while. ;) I love the high desert. My wife's sister's family lives in Palmdale and we visit once in a great while.

859 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:59:08pm

re: #838 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I loved that character.

Crowe is the shit.

860 lostlakehiker  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 6:59:35pm

re: #375 Sharmuta

You didn't tell her what my nic means, did you?!

Now you made me go and look it up. Put it this way: English will accept into itself just about any word from anywhere. If English were a woman, English would be a sharmuta.

And with that, ``sharmuta'' has been uploaded into English. Just goes to show what a skank English is.

861 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:00:00pm

re: #820 razorbacker

Let us imagine that you are a trifle upset with someone and that person is so unfortunate as to park his vehicle in an area to which you have access.

You're not mad at the guy; you're not going to run a spark plug cable to the gas tank and dangle a spark plug just inside the filler tube. That would be wrong.

But you could remove the schrader valves from two tires each morning and then replace the valve after the air has escaped. Why two, because so few people carry more than one spare tire. There is nothing wrong with the tire, valve, or wheel and it will be distracting, as well as aggravating.

Or, you could take a syringe with a longish needle and inject doe-in-heat or skunk scent into the passenger compartment through the weatherstripping around the window.

Or, you could exchange license plates with another car. Who checks?

Vasiline on a windshield, anyone?

You know what? Those security parking spots are worth the money.

Depending on the door handles, poop behind them could be nifty.

862 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:00:03pm

re: #857 Walter L. Newton

Pickled herring.

Pickled herring is Jewish sushi. It is cooked, though, from the vinegar.
Good stuff.

863 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:00:12pm

re: #846 MandyManners

Worse than donoughts in a bank's parking lot?

Is that a Southern spelling? If so I love it! I've never seen it before. Sheltered Yankee here.

864 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:00:16pm

re: #833 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, it's some big women day thing. They prattled on about something...I wasn't really paying attention.

(ducks and runs!)

Women's history month me thinks.

865 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:01:00pm

re: #824 Dark_Falcon

FUCK YEAH!

866 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:01:02pm

re: #825 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Speaking of Women...
Mandy? Shar? Dianna? Lizard Ladies? Were you guys honored today by Hillary and Michelle? Eight women were honored today. Figured they all had to be "The Women of LGF".

None of y'all were around here while the speechifying was going on.

If not, I honor all of you.

*deep bow*

867 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:01:02pm

re: #832 OldLineTexan

OMG. He used your car to remove the tags from mattresses, even though HE WASN'T THE CONSUMER?

/gasp

No.

He was Irish. Make a few guesses.

I made him take my car, and I took his. When I got home from work, I bundled up every single thing he had in my apartment and waited downstairs. When he pulled up, I gave him his property - neatly packed - and his keys. I demanded mine, and the key to my place, and told him if I ever saw him again, I'd call the FBI.

Actually, I wouldn't have had to. I got tailed for several weeks.

I took to bringing the FBI guy a cup of coffee in the mornings. He told me I wasn't supposed to notice him. I told him he needed to park further away, then.

868 brookly red  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:01:05pm

re: #835 albusteve

then you are deferred...I live in the desert, no such thing as a squid taco

calamari tostadas, mmmmmm

869 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:01:06pm

re: #821 MandyManners

My STD story involves my other ex.

Boy, you'd think I'd learn.............

870 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:01:23pm

re: #834 Alouette

Mussels? Squid? Octopus?

I'm glad I keep kosher. I can't think of any really weird food that's kosher.

Other than petcha borscht. And the jelly from jarred gefilte fish.

The ocean is positively full of tasty things to eat, besides the sea kittens. Nothing like fresh sea urchin gonads.

For those of us not subject to dietary laws, of course. I respect your choice.

871 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:01:29pm

re: #862 Kosh's Shadow

Pickled herring is Jewish sushi. It is cooked, though, from the vinegar.
Good stuff.

Yuck...

872 razorbacker  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:01:32pm

re: #823 Jim in Virginia

Never even occurred to us. Funny, that. You'd think that someone who'd eat chitterlings, or brains, or ears, or tripe, or frog legs, or eels wouldn't think twice about eating mussels.

873 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:01:41pm

re: #846 MandyManners

Worse than donoughts in a bank's parking lot?

Much.

See #867.

874 outsidephilly  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:01:48pm

re: #825 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Speaking of Women...
Mandy? Shar? Dianna? Lizard Ladies? Were you guys honored today by Hillary and Michelle? Eight women were honored today. Figured they all had to be "The Women of LGF".

None of y'all were around here while the speechifying was going on.

If not, I honor all of you.


An honor from FBV, I'm flattered . . . . . , an honor from H or M, I'd quickly decline.

((thanks for the honor, FBV))

875 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:02:21pm

re: #825 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Speaking of Women...
Mandy? Shar? Dianna? Lizard Ladies? Were you guys honored today by Hillary and Michelle? Eight women were honored today. Figured they all had to be "The Women of LGF".

None of y'all were around here while the speechifying was going on.

If not, I honor all of you.

BTW, didn't FCBBHO establish a Whtie House office on women and children today?

THANKS FOR INFANTILIZING US, YOU ASSHOLE!

876 Syrah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:02:43pm

re: #780 bellamags

I know a real southern lady who told me about a soup her mother used to make with coquina clams. [Link: www.smithsonianmag.com...]

Hmm. From their recipe:

Donax or Coquina Broth

This delicate broth is a gift of the sea. The tiny coquina clams burrow into the sand as the tide washes them ashore during the summer months. Once scooped from the sand, rinse the coquinas and place them in a pot with enough water to cover. Cook over medium heat until shells pop open (usually about 5 minutes). Strain broth and discard shells. Add a little butter and light cream to taste. Garnish with chopped parsley or chives to add color. No quantities are given, as the amounts are determined by the success of the coquina collector.

Sounds pretty good.

I don't think I have seen anything like these on the West Coast. Here in the Puget Sound, the crows and the seagulls scour the tidal zones pretty throughly.

The other problem is that it is not recommended to eat the local mollusks and bottom feeding fish. Too much pollution. Though I know that people around here will go and dig up the Geoducks.

877 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:03:34pm

re: #855 BatGuano

That is per Hillary. I think the answer is, no. We have confrontations with the Red Chinese in the air and sea. They will probably probe us further too see if we are going to rollover.

I agree, it's the dance that has good on forever. I was reading where we would shadow Soviet boomers from 1000 yards back, undetected for a entire a patrol. I'm sure we are doing the same with the Chinese.

878 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:03:36pm

One more vid for Chris Brown. This one sums up the mildest of my feeling towards that individual who does not deserve to be called a man:

879 Racer X  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:03:36pm

re: #847 avanti

Did you see the new shuffle, 1000 songs, the size of a AA battery, $80.00, amazing.

Ipod

iPod Flea

880 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:03:37pm

re: #871 Walter L. Newton

Yuck...

So it's Jewish ceviche! Not sushi.

881 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:03:41pm

re: #867 Dianna

No.

He was Irish. Make a few guesses.

I made him take my car, and I took his. When I got home from work, I bundled up every single thing he had in my apartment and waited downstairs. When he pulled up, I gave him his property - neatly packed - and his keys. I demanded mine, and the key to my place, and told him if I ever saw him again, I'd call the FBI.

Actually, I wouldn't have had to. I got tailed for several weeks.

I took to bringing the FBI guy a cup of coffee in the mornings. He told me I wasn't supposed to notice him. I told him he needed to park further away, then.

Wow...

882 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:04:09pm

re: #871 Walter L. Newton

Yuck...

To each his own.
I have to say, though, that when I started keeping kosher, I found some smoked herring, and it was the best thing I've ever eaten. However, the next time I found it, it was so salty it was inedible.

883 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:04:19pm

re: #836 HoosierHoops

You know I would agree with you Mandy.. And I don't know what happened..What has been missing from this story is all the rumors of that women getting into guy's face and hitting them in fits of rage...
I was reading about those stories months and months ago..Suddenly..they all disappear..Something doesn't add up...And I'm not defending Chris..But what ever happened to all the stories of a pycho crazy bitch that would hit guys in crazy fits of rage? Something doesn't add up...
they may deserve each other

It's the rare exception that I would countenance a man hitting back with all his might since the average man's strength is far greater than that of the average woman. Also, I seem to recall that the victim here wound up in the hospital.

884 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:04:29pm

re: #858 OldLineTexan

Hey, I get outta the Gulf Coast every once in a while. ;) I love the high desert. My wife's sister's family lives in Palmdale and we visit once in a great while.

funny...I love the gulf coast...I'll try to man up and do some squid next time I'm over there

885 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:04:43pm

re: #872 razorbacker

Never even occurred to us. Funny, that. You'd think that someone who'd eat chitterlings, or brains, or ears, or tripe, or frog legs, or eels wouldn't think twice about eating mussels.

We used to fish 'em out of the creek in New Caney and cook 'em on a campfire grill until they popped.

886 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:04:46pm

re: #844 OldLineTexan

ONE kind of locust, IIRC other Lizard's teachings.

That's kosher only for Yemenites.

887 outsidephilly  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:04:58pm

re: #845 Dianna

Query for female lizards:

At what age did you begin your skin-care routines?


Are you talking sun screen, moisturizers?

888 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:05:00pm

re: #877 avanti

I agree, it's the dance that has good on forever. I was reading where we would shadow Soviet boomers from 1000 yards back, undetected for a entire a patrol. I'm sure we are doing the same with the Chinese.

Until the 0ne decides our subs need to broadcast "we're not threatening you" messages in 100 different languages.
/

889 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:05:08pm

re: #882 Kosh's Shadow

To each his own.
I have to say, though, that when I started keeping kosher, I found some smoked herring, and it was the best thing I've ever eaten. However, the next time I found it, it was so salty it was inedible.

A Kipper. Good on dark Rye.

890 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:06:16pm

re: #840 talon_262

Huh?

/speak English for the acronymically-challenged ;-P

He gave her an STD following a deployment to a Third World region.

891 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:06:31pm

re: #888 Kosh's Shadow

Until the 0ne decides our subs need to broadcast "we're not threatening you" messages in 100 different languages.
/

As ludicrous as that seems, I can see Dear Leader doing something like that...

/

892 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:06:33pm

re: #884 albusteve

funny...I love the gulf coast...I'll try to man up and do some squid next time I'm over there

No squid here, bro, (or at least nothing good). Try the left coast next time you're there. The Gulf Coast is shrimp country!

893 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:06:36pm

re: #887 outsidephilly

Are you talking sun screen, moisturizers?

Mostly, the evening routine with cleanser and moisturizer.

894 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:06:37pm

re: #832 OldLineTexan
Mattress police. Show me your mattress tags and no one gets hurt.

895 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:06:42pm

re: #847 avanti

Did you see the new shuffle, 1000 songs, the size of a AA battery, $80.00, amazing.

Ipod

sweet.

896 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:07:03pm

re: #845 Dianna

Query for female lizards:

At what age did you begin your skin-care routines?

Pre-teen.

897 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:07:04pm

re: #888 Kosh's Shadow

Until the 0ne decides our subs need to broadcast "we're not threatening you" messages in 100 different languages.
/

Won't happen. The Greens will complain that it disturbs the whales.
Running lights maybe?

Or just cut 'em out of the budget.

898 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:07:34pm

re: #853 lobo91

I assume that was supposed to be STD?

Ayup.

899 outsidephilly  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:07:45pm

re: #833 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, it's some big women day thing. They prattled on about something...I wasn't really paying attention.

(ducks and runs!)


?big women?
As in size 14 and up?

900 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:08:01pm

I just got done cleaning up a broken bottle of Kahlua from the tile floor. fabulous.

901 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:08:33pm

re: #845 Dianna

Query for female lizards:

At what age did you begin your skin-care routines?

I really don't have one.

902 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:08:34pm

re: #900 bellamags

I just got done cleaning up a broken bottle of Kahlua from the tile floor. fabulous.

Oh.

How's the grout?

903 brookly red  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:08:37pm

re: #880 OldLineTexan

So it's Jewish ceviche! Not sushi.

Correct! (there are some places in NYC that will roll smoked salmon, cream cheese & scallions in rice & call it sushi, but I call it blasphemy!)

904 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:08:38pm

re: #900 bellamags

I just got done cleaning up a broken bottle of Kahlua from the tile floor. fabulous.

The horror! Alcohol abuse!
That's sad.

905 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:08:51pm

re: #883 MandyManners

It's the rare exception that I would countenance a man hitting back with all his might since the average man's strength is far greater than that of the average woman. Also, I seem to recall that the victim here wound up in the hospital.

I agree with you my friend..But I had read stories months ago she liked going crazy and hitting guys...
How do you love someone and hit them? Man or Woman? Hollywood sucks..
kind regards...
/maybe I should have not brought this up...

906 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:08:56pm

re: #900 bellamags

I just got done cleaning up a broken bottle of Kahlua from the tile floor. fabulous.

need a ShamWow

907 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:08:59pm

re: #863 Bloodnok

Is that a Southern spelling? If so I love it! I've never seen it before. Sheltered Yankee here.

Donuts. Doughnuts.

I was a bit addled after the post about the psycho-bitch from hell who killed all those fish.

908 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:09:00pm

re: #890 MandyManners

He gave her an STD following a deployment to a Third World region.

Sounds like he took better care of his rifle than he did his gun!

/classy...

909 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:09:01pm

re: #867 Dianna

I took to bringing the FBI guy a cup of coffee in the mornings. He told me I wasn't supposed to notice him. I told him he needed to park further away, then.

The coffee comment reminded me of this great picture.

910 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:09:10pm

re: #808 MandyManners

What about the areas shaded in red?

Those aren't actually areas shaded in red. Those are the 35 highest counties as they are outlined. You can see this slightly more clearly here.

911 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:09:14pm

re: #880 OldLineTexan

You're right. But compared with the way my mother overcooked stuff, it is raw.

912 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:09:18pm

re: #901 bellamags

I really don't have one.

Huh.

This survey is being conducted in the interests of my novel. Feel free to answer entirely at random.

913 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:09:22pm

re: #902 Dianna

Oh.

How's the grout?

charcoal gray. no prob. ; )

914 BatGuano  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:09:28pm

re: #900 bellamags

I just got done cleaning up a broken bottle of Kahlua from the tile floor. fabulous.

Yeah, I've had to lick that up a few times myself.

915 Syrah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:09:40pm

re: #807 jcm

Sir Ernest Henry Shackleton

His Book is an absolute must read.

Looks interesting. The Wiki makes him sound a bit like a real life version of Conrad's Marlow.

916 CapeCoddah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:09:44pm

re: #814 Gearhead

Squid rings I can handle. Octopus - no.

We were on a cruise a few years back and I pick up something off of my plate to try to identify it. When I realized it was little octopus I nearly chucked across the dining room.

There are restaurants here that put live baby octopus in salads. If one is not careful, they will try to get away. I have seen more than one tourist order it completely freak out. It is kinda funny to watch.

917 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:09:53pm

re: #869 IslandLibertarian

My STD story involves my other ex.

Boy, you'd think I'd learn.............

I had no idea what he did to his first X until she and I had a talk during my divorce. Goodness me.

918 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:10:00pm

re: #904 Van Helsing

re: #906 albusteve

LOL. yeah. a shamwow.

919 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:10:26pm

re: #909 avanti

The coffee comment reminded me of this great picture.

Good for the Hooters girls!

920 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:10:26pm

re: #837 Van Helsing

Thus setting the high standard for his cabinet nominees.

You know what is really screwed up?
There's no need to fabricate any stories of the "0"'s past.
Drug use to Terrorists to parking tickets.
It's all there and THEY. JUST. DON'T. CARE.............

921 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:10:35pm

re: #894 Jim in Virginia

Mattress police. Show me your mattress tags and no one gets hurt.

You mock, but ignoring my wife's protests, I tore off the tags on my new mattresses. When she went to complain to the Manufacturer about the quality, they offered to replace them under warranty. All they needed was the number off of the tag. Think I'll ever hear then end of that?

(As I'm typing this, she throws out: "So what are you typing there . . Endive")

922 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:10:55pm

re: #916 CapeCoddah

There are restaurants here that put live baby octopus in salads. If one is not careful, they will try to get away. I have seen more than one tourist order it completely freak out. It is kinda funny to watch.

I knew an Italian who talked about how an octopus they thought was dead was moving around in their refrigerator.

923 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:11:14pm

re: #873 Dianna

Much.

See #867.

Oh, my stars! I'd have wanted to kick his Blarney Stones up to his shoulders.

924 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:11:17pm

re: #913 bellamags

charcoal gray. no prob. ; )

That's a relief!

Grout is the bane of my existence.

925 razorbacker  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:11:20pm

re: #896 MandyManners

Pre-teen.

Daughter is 35. On a business trip last year, her roomie asked why she bothered with the skin care hassle every night.

But, as she said to me, "I was the only one to be carded in the restaurant when ordering wine."

926 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:11:34pm

re: #902 Dianna

Oh.

How's the grout?

Got most of it up with a straw.

927 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:11:36pm

re: #794 MandyManners

I'd like to throttle her for GOING BACK.

She's getting a lot of shit for it too.

928 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:11:49pm
929 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:11:57pm

re: #909 avanti

The coffee comment reminded me of this great picture.

Loves it! Upding.

930 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:12:02pm

The new gun grips are here!

The new gun grips are here!

/Navin Johnson voice

931 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:12:06pm

re: #920 IslandLibertarian

It'd have a level of humor if it wasn't being inflicted on us.

932 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:13:00pm

re: #917 MandyManners

I had no idea what he did to his first X until she and I had a talk during my divorce. Goodness me.

Forgive me, but I can top that.

A lady I know discovered her husband had given her chlamydia when she went in for her pregnancy test.

Then, when the baby was born, he was in a motel room with someone else.

933 outsidephilly  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:13:09pm

re: #893 Dianna

Mostly, the evening routine with cleanser and moisturizer.


Around 12, was when my daughter began to focus on her looks, depends on the skin.

My kids were swimmers, summer & winter, they were diligent about showering after swim practice/swim meets because the chlorine would tint their hair.

Although, good cleansing at bedtime, changing the pillow case, frequently, does help curb hormonal break-outs.

934 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:13:29pm

re: #926 OldLineTexan

Got most of it up with a straw.

Irishman pulls a fly out of his beer, squeezes it and says...
"SPIT IT OUT, YA BASTARD!"

935 pink freud  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:13:42pm

re: #893 Dianna

Mostly, the evening routine with cleanser and moisturizer.

I started around 30, Dianna, right about the time I had both of my kids and realized the changes I was starting to see weren't completely related to pregnancy changes. I'm pretty religious about it, missing only a handful of days in the two decades since. It pays off. The cheap stuff is a waste of your money.

I have a friend in her 50's who's taken glucosamine/chondroitin since she was in her 20's. Not a wrinkle on her face. She glows.

936 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:13:55pm

re: #924 Dianna

That's a relief!

Grout is the bane of my existence.

We had a house once that had white 10 x 10 tile in the kitchen and dining room. The brilliant interior "designer" installed this tile with almost 3/4 inch grout lines, with WHITE GROUT. I just let it turn to a nice gray brown patina. What is the use of trying to keep it white with three dogs, two cats and a husband. (our driveway was mostly leaves and grass) no hope.

937 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:14:03pm

re: #923 MandyManners

Oh, my stars! I'd have wanted to kick his Blarney Stones up to his shoulders.

I was too angry for that.

938 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:14:10pm

re: #930 Occasional Reader

The new gun grips are here!

The new gun grips are here!

/Navin Johnson voice

Pretty...

939 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:14:54pm

re: #930 Occasional Reader

The new gun grips are here!

The new gun grips are here!

/Navin Johnson voice

The perfect fashion accessories: Stylish, practical, and they'll piss off moonbats.

940 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:15:01pm

re: #929 Dark_Falcon

Loves it! Upding.

When you say a picture is worth a 1000 words, that one is a perfect example.

941 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:15:19pm

re: #845 Dianna

Query for female lizards:

At what age did you begin your skin-care routines?

I started worrying about the state of my skin and trying to do something about it when I was about 15 or so.

The actual "routine" I follow has, of course, changed from time to time as I've aged.

942 BatGuano  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:15:37pm

re: #940 avanti

When you say a picture is worth a 1000 words, that one is a perfect example.

Me too.

943 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:15:45pm

re: #939 Dark_Falcon

The perfect fashion accessories: Stylish, practical, and they'll piss off moonbats.

matches his eye shadow perfectly

944 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:15:54pm

re: #934 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Good one.

945 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:16:05pm

Bristol and Levi split up. Didn't see that comin'.

Sigh.

946 brookly red  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:16:08pm

re: #935 pink freud

"I have a friend in her 50's who's taken glucosamine/chondroitin since she was in her 20's. Not a wrinkle on her face. She glows.

I thought that was for joint health?

947 Syrah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:16:19pm

re: #935 pink freud

I started around 30, Dianna, right about the time I had both of my kids and realized the changes I was starting to see weren't completely related to pregnancy changes. I'm pretty religious about it, missing only a handful of days in the two decades since. It pays off. The cheap stuff is a waste of your money.

I have a friend in her 50's who's taken glucosamine/chondroitin since she was in her 20's. Not a wrinkle on her face. She glows.

Giving up smoking will do wonders too.

Cigarette smoke destroys the skin.

948 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:16:46pm

re: #893 Dianna

Mostly, the evening routine with cleanser and moisturizer.

To this day, I use baby shampoo and moisturizer. I have no wrinkles and I'm in my 40s. No gray hair, either.

949 rain of lead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:16:55pm

re: #820 razorbacker
Hey RB
one of my all time favs
remove plug from oilpan
catch waste oil
replace plug
2-3 miles down road.....
what's that ungodly noise and why is there smoke comming from the air vents

950 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:16:58pm

re: #925 razorbacker

Daughter is 35. On a business trip last year, her roomie asked why she bothered with the skin care hassle every night.

But, as she said to me, "I was the only one to be carded in the restaurant when ordering wine."

She sounds like my kind of girl. I love creams and magical face potions.

951 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:17:00pm

Man... I see I've had pretty tame relationships, by lizardoid standards.

952 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:17:04pm

Thank you, ladies. I was trying to decide if a girl of 12 going on 13 would have a routine.

I did, but I was fighting acne.

953 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:17:20pm

re: #900 bellamags

Remember this from SNL?
MOM: "It's a desert topping and a floor cleanser."
KIDS: "MMMMMMMM, good mom!"
Chevey: "And look at that shine!"

954 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:17:42pm

re: #946 brookly red

"I have a friend in her 50's who's taken glucosamine/chondroitin since she was in her 20's. Not a wrinkle on her face. She glows.

I thought that was for joint health?

It is, but it's got some interesting side-benefits for your skin.

955 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:17:53pm
956 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:18:01pm

re: #953 IslandLibertarian

Remember this from SNL?
MOM: "It's a desert topping and a floor cleanser."
KIDS: "MMMMMMMM, good mom!"
Chevey: "And look at that shine!"

LOL.

957 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:18:02pm

re: #909 avanti

The coffee comment reminded me of this great picture.

That's sexist!

958 CapeCoddah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:18:02pm

re: #922 Kosh's Shadow

I knew an Italian who talked about how an octopus they thought was dead was moving around in their refrigerator.

Yeah, that stuff happens. Hunters with deer, turkeys etc... they thought they had killed.... kind of disconcerting.
My brother was driving down the highway on Cape years ago, a seagull flew in the open window and damned near killed him between flapping around trying to get out and the shock of the bird flying into the car. Darned near lost control of the car, and was bleeding profusely from the birds beak while it was in full panic mode.
He managed to pull over and get the Gull out. Said it flew off after sitting there for a couple of minutes.

959 pink freud  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:18:02pm

re: #946 brookly red

"I have a friend in her 50's who's taken glucosamine/chondroitin since she was in her 20's. Not a wrinkle on her face. She glows.

I thought that was for joint health?

That's what I thought too. She doesn't creak when she walks, either. :-)

960 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:18:09pm

re: #916 CapeCoddah

There are restaurants here that put live baby octopus in salads. If one is not careful, they will try to get away. I have seen more than one tourist order it completely freak out. It is kinda funny to watch.


Please tell me you're kidding.
Does PETA know?

961 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:18:26pm

re: #905 HoosierHoops

I agree with you my friend..But I had read stories months ago she liked going crazy and hitting guys...
How do you love someone and hit them? Man or Woman? Hollywood sucks..
kind regards...
/maybe I should have not brought this up...

Being emotionally unstable is not quite the same as beating the living fuck out of someone in order to dominate them.

Now, let's be done with this topic. Okay?

962 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:18:37pm

re: #936 bellamags

Bella? I design kitchens. Once or twice a week, I have to talk a customer out of ceramic tile counter-tops.

I tell them that they are the "worst idea since communism".

963 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:18:51pm

re: #948 MandyManners

To this day, I use baby shampoo and moisturizer. I have no wrinkles and I'm in my 40s. No gray hair, either.

Some wrinkles, not many. Good ones, though.

But I'm graying rapidly. Actually, silvering - so no one notices.

964 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:18:51pm

re: #941 reine.de.tout
I am 41 and have never had a routine for my face. I never had pimples in school and all the other girls were pissy about that. I never had to wear the yukky makeup to cover them. I use plain old dial soap....because it is antibacterial, maybe twice a week and a warm washcloth otherwise. No wrinkles here. Simple is better.

965 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:18:58pm

re: #952 Dianna

Thank you, ladies. I was trying to decide if a girl of 12 going on 13 would have a routine.

I did, but I was fighting acne.

It's never too early to take care of the face! Sun is the biggest culprit. I wish I hadn't spent so much time baking when I was a teen.

966 pink freud  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:19:09pm

re: #947 Syrah

Giving up smoking will do wonders too.

Cigarette smoke destroys the skin.

...and teeth, gums, arteries, circulation, eyes, sinuses .....

967 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:19:26pm
968 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:19:34pm

re: #908 talon_262

Sounds like he took better care of his rifle than he did his gun!

/classy...

Considering what he did in the military, it also could've damaged his clearance.

969 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:19:45pm

re: #954 Dianna

Dianna, probably most 12 to 13 year old girls would do something simple, like cleanser and a clearasil pad or oxy cream. Their skin is typically oily and needs strong anti-bacterial and de-greasing. Light light moisturizer if necessary.

970 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:20:17pm

re: #962 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Bella? I design kitchens. Once or twice a week, I have to talk a customer out of ceramic tile counter-tops.

I tell them that they are the "worst idea since communism".

You design kitchens? are you married? LOL

971 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:20:18pm

re: #945 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Bristol and Levi split up. Didn't see that comin'.

Sigh.

I'm not surprised.

972 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:20:18pm

re: #964 UberInfidel67

I am 41 and have never had a routine for my face. I never had pimples in school and all the other girls were pissy about that. I never had to wear the yukky makeup to cover them. I use plain old dial soap....because it is antibacterial, maybe twice a week and a warm washcloth otherwise. No wrinkles here. Simple is better.

Good genes too, I'll bet.

973 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:20:23pm

re: #845 Dianna

Query for female lizards:

At what age did you begin your skin-care routines?

A good buff and polish.

974 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:20:30pm

re: #962 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Bella? I design kitchens. Once or twice a week, I have to talk a customer out of ceramic tile counter-tops.

I tell them that they are the "worst idea since communism".

You deserve major updings for that!

Grout! Grrrrr!

975 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:20:32pm

re: #946 brookly red

"I have a friend in her 50's who's taken glucosamine/chondroitin since she was in her 20's. Not a wrinkle on her face. She glows.

I thought that was for joint health?

Keeping your stash in a humidor works for that. With a couple of pieces of apple.

Not that I know anything about that personally. But I hear things.

976 outsidephilly  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:21:03pm

re: #954 Dianna

It is, but it's got some interesting side-benefits for your skin.


didn't know that, I shall check that out.

977 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:21:05pm

re: #946 brookly red

"I have a friend in her 50's who's taken glucosamine/chondroitin since she was in her 20's. Not a wrinkle on her face. She glows.

I thought that was for joint health?

Me, I sprinkle embryonic stem cells on my Shredded Wheat every morning. And as a result, I have the glutes of a 22 year old.

978 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:21:10pm
979 brookly red  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:21:13pm

re: #954 Dianna

It is, but it's got some interesting side-benefits for your skin.

Really? I work in pharma/CME, (& a lot w/RA & Ostio) & I never heard about that...

980 CapeCoddah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:21:47pm

re: #960 Jim in Virginia

Please tell me you're kidding.
Does PETA know?

No, not kidding. But it does pay to know WHAT you are ordering before you get it.

981 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:21:52pm

re: #973 jcm

That was unkind!

982 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:21:54pm

re: #973 jcm

A good buff and polish.

Sweet jebus! It looks like the "AFTER" picture in a Taser test.

983 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:22:15pm

re: #944 Cognito

Good one.

cognita!....seen any rampant idiots around lately?

984 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:22:16pm

re: #910 lawhawk

Those aren't actually areas shaded in red. Those are the 35 highest counties as they are outlined. You can see this slightly more clearly here.

How many of the counties across the nation had a lot of CRA efforts to give mortgages to those who could not afford them, and pardon the hell out of my racial insensitivity but, did those urban areas have a large per centage of minorities?

985 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:22:32pm

re: #983 albusteve

Heh

986 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:22:34pm

re: #972 Bobblehead
My Mom always had pretty good skin. Even at 60, you would never guess her age. As I said simple is better. She grew up in a Catholic orphanage so none of that fancy face care stuff.

987 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:22:58pm

re: #893 Dianna

Mostly, the evening routine with cleanser and moisturizer.

My 16 yo girl said at 12. My 11 yo girl looked at her like "Really?"

/

988 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:23:09pm

re: #983 albusteve

cognita!....seen any rampant idiots around lately?

All too many.

989 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:23:31pm

re: #981 Dianna

That was unkind!

Sorry, but after what she did to my wallet I think a paid for a few unkind shots.

;-P

990 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:23:33pm

re: #979 brookly red

Really? I work in pharma/CME, (& a lot w/RA & Ostio) & I never heard about that...

I heard about it a while ago, I don't remember where. I use it (not in the huge doses everyone talks about, either, since it makes my stomach hurt), and I've noticed my skin seems more elastic.

991 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:23:44pm

re: #984 MandyManners

How many of the counties across the nation had a lot of CRA efforts to give mortgages to those who could not afford them, and pardon the hell out of my racial insensitivity but, did those urban areas have a large per centage of minorities?

Ha. gmta

992 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:23:51pm

re: #986 UberInfidel67
Oooops, I should have said at 69 years of age.

993 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:23:53pm

re: #932 Dianna

Forgive me, but I can top that.

A lady I know discovered her husband had given her chlamydia when she went in for her pregnancy test.

Then, when the baby was born, he was in a motel room with someone else.

Please tell me she's booted his ass.

994 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:24:07pm

re: #957 Walter L. Newton

That's sexist!

He used to a sailor. You've got to allow him occasional acts of outright female-ogling.

995 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:24:09pm

re: #964 UberInfidel67

I am 41 and have never had a routine for my face. I never had pimples in school and all the other girls were pissy about that. I never had to wear the yukky makeup to cover them. I use plain old dial soap....because it is antibacterial, maybe twice a week and a warm washcloth otherwise. No wrinkles here. Simple is better.

Yes, I basically used soap & water and Noxzema 'til I was about 35. Then I had to start using stronger/better moisturizers - but the basic routine is still the same - soap & water, then the moisturizer, that's it.
Who has time for more?

996 gearhead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:24:10pm

re: #916 CapeCoddah

There are restaurants here that put live baby octopus in salads. If one is not careful, they will try to get away. I have seen more than one tourist order it completely freak out. It is kinda funny to watch.

Why would a restaurant want to encourage projectile vomiting?

997 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:24:21pm

re: #962 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Bella? I design kitchens. Once or twice a week, I have to talk a customer out of ceramic tile counter-tops.

I tell them that they are the "worst idea since communism".

I want to market the Next Big Thing for countertops, after granite.

I'm thinking depleted uranium.

998 outsidephilly  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:24:24pm

re: #977 Occasional Reader

Me, I sprinkle embryonic stem cells on my Shredded Wheat every morning. And as a result, I have the glutes of a 22 year old.


LOL

999 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:24:36pm

re: #961 MandyManners

Being emotionally unstable is not quite the same as beating the living fuck out of someone in order to dominate them.

Now, let's be done with this topic. Okay?

I agree..let us let this topic rest...
I wasn't trying to upset you..I had just read some stuff a couple of months ago...Hope you understand

1000 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:24:54pm

re: #957 Walter L. Newton

That's sexist!

I'm about to make a sexist comment. IMHO the gal protesting is not pissed that attractive women are being objectified, she's pissed that she's not a attractive girl.
The Hooters girls were just being sweet, and without saying a word, let her know that it's their choice of employment, not the protesters.

1001 CapeCoddah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:24:55pm

re: #964 UberInfidel67

I am 41 and have never had a routine for my face. I never had pimples in school and all the other girls were pissy about that. I never had to wear the yukky makeup to cover them. I use plain old dial soap....because it is antibacterial, maybe twice a week and a warm washcloth otherwise. No wrinkles here. Simple is better.

Wow, I thought I was the only one who has not spent billions on makeup. Same age, exact same story here. One of my sisters nailed me once with the makeup. Felt like I had a pillow over my face. When I went to "Look" in the bathroom, I scrubbed it off. Man, was she pissed.

1002 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:25:03pm

re: #993 MandyManners

Please tell me she's booted his ass.

Oh, yes. But it's become my "You are not serious" story.

1003 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:25:12pm
1004 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:25:19pm

re: #988 Cognito

All too many.

Yes- we're aware of that, asshole. Interesting you'd still want to hang out with people you hold in such low regard.

1005 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:25:25pm

re: #988 Cognito

All too many.

Geez, Sharm. What did he do to merit that downding?

1006 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:25:29pm

I am 47. Not even a crows foot, much less feet.

Eat enough to fill up your skin, I always say.

1007 pink freud  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:25:43pm

re: #986 UberInfidel67

My Mom always had pretty good skin. Even at 60, you would never guess her age. As I said simple is better. She grew up in a Catholic orphanage so none of that fancy face care stuff.

I have an aunt in her 80's who smiled ALL the time. I've never in my life seen her angry, yelling, or frowning. She raised ten children, too. Now that she has wrinkled, her entire face is set in that happy countenance. How cool is that!?

1008 Aye Pod  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:25:56pm

re: #6 Sharmuta

“Why should we be afraid to test our worldview against reality?”

So- he's admitting they deny reality?

LOL. Catch of the year.

1009 gearhead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:25:58pm

re: #973 jcm

A good buff and polish.

Yikes. The surgeon connected her eyebrows to her scapulae.

1010 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:26:09pm

re: #995 reine.de.tout
My Dad was always urging me to use Noxzema...my Mom does too. It always made me break out though.

1011 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:26:11pm

re: #951 Occasional Reader

Man... I see I've had pretty tame relationships, by lizardoid standards.

What about the cop you dated who handcuffed you to the Brazillian embassy and teased you with an ice-pick?

Oh, wait. Do I have a few things mixed up?

1012 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:26:14pm

re: #1004 Sharmuta

Yes- we're aware of that, asshole. Interesting you'd still want to hang out with people you hold in such low regard.

As I said the first time you reposted it, Sharmuta, no one need take up the mantle unless it fits.

Although you do seem particularly eager.

1013 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:26:27pm

re: #988 Cognito

All too many.

say...as a favor could you point them out so we can tell who they are...gotta separate the wheat from the chaff you know...

1014 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:26:56pm

BBIAB.

I want some wine while I write.

1015 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:26:59pm

re: #1011 MandyManners

What about the cop you dated who handcuffed you to the Brazillian embassy and teased you with an ice-pick?

Oh, wait. Do I have a few things mixed up?

She was coked up at the time, so it doesn't count.

1016 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:27:00pm
Creation Vacations to Evolution HQ

On that same note, I think liberals with grand visions of how social programs help people should make a trip to Detroit to see the end result of their agenda.

1017 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:27:02pm
1018 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:27:06pm

re: #955 taxfreekiller

Evolution of the size of B. Obama's lies surprises even the queen loon Nancy Pelosi. Now they compete in the last loon liar standing contest.

All it takes to keep them up and telling lies larger and larger is your last tax dollar.

ps
ANY ONE NOTICE B. OBAMA IS A FORE FLUSHING LIAR, LIAR PANTS ON FIRE COMMIE LOON DISASTER FOR AMERICA.

No! Do tell!

1019 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:27:08pm

re: #1005 Dark_Falcon

Geez, Sharm. What did he do to merit that downding?

He insulted the Lizards.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

1020 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:27:17pm

re: #955 taxfreekiller

Evolution of the size of B. Obama's lies surprises even the queen loon Nancy Pelosi. Now they compete in the last loon liar standing contest.

All it takes to keep them up and telling lies larger and larger is your last tax dollar.

ps
ANY ONE NOTICE B. OBAMA IS A FORE FLUSHING LIAR, LIAR PANTS ON FIRE COMMIE LOON DISASTER FOR AMERICA.

Yeah, I'd kinda picked up on that.

1021 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:27:24pm

re: #977 Occasional Reader

Me, I sprinkle embryonic stem cells on my Shredded Wheat every morning. And as a result, I have the glutes of a 22 year old.

I had a eye lift done with a bit of my foreskin, but now I'm cockeyed.

1022 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:27:28pm

re: #957 Walter L. Newton

That's sexist! a great picture!

sexist too.............

1023 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:27:30pm

re: #1011 MandyManners

What about the cop you dated who handcuffed you to the Brazillian embassy and teased you with an ice-pick?

Oh, wait. Do I have a few things mixed up?

He asked us, very nicely I might add, not to bring up that, ahhhh, little incident.

1024 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:27:53pm

re: #1013 albusteve

say...as a favor could you point them out so we can tell who they are...gotta separate the wheat from the chaff you know...

If you insist on being offended by that post, then feel free to include yourself.

1025 CapeCoddah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:28:05pm

re: #996 gearhead

Why would a restaurant want to encourage projectile vomiting?

LOL, It is an acquired taste. One I thankfully never acquired. I don't like my food to cling to the plate in protest.

1026 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:28:20pm

re: #1021 avanti

I had a eye lift done with a bit of my foreskin, but now I'm cockeyed.

wtf? lol

1027 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:28:22pm

re: #1003 buzzsawmonkey

If G-d had intended us to have tile countertops, He would never have given us Formica.

I mean, doesn't everyone just take that for granite?

I wood, but the evidence just isn't concrete enough.

1028 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:28:27pm

I hope all of those who whined for cognito to be let back in are fucking happy now.

1029 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:28:32pm

re: #1001 CapeCoddah
My Dad taught me the "less is more" idea about makeup. And he would know....he was a guy who liked women so I trusted his judgment. Hell, when I wanna dress up a little now, I borrow from from my daughter. She has really good skin too though. She doesn't use coverup and gunk like that.

1030 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:28:35pm

re: #1019 Sharmuta

He insulted the Lizards.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Yeah, I saw that one. Still, I don't want a flame war. How can we patch this up?

1031 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:28:43pm

Whats up mah peeps.

1032 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:28:53pm

re: #994 Dark_Falcon

He used to a sailor. You've got to allow him occasional acts of outright female-ogling.

If it does not move, paint it, if it does, fondle it.

1033 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:28:56pm
1034 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:29:07pm

re: #1023 jcm

He asked us, very nicely I might add, not to bring up that, ahhhh, little incident.

It was fine, my three Korean harem girls kicked her ass with taekwondo and rescued me. All good.

1035 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:29:25pm
1036 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:29:28pm

re: #1028 Sharmuta

I hope all of those who whined for cognito to be let back in are fucking happy now.

Thats going on my facebook page too. lol

1037 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:29:30pm

re: #1019 Sharmuta

If you repeat something often enough, it just might become true.

Right?

1038 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:29:35pm

re: #955 taxfreekiller

Evolution of the size of B. Obama's lies surprises even the queen loon Nancy Pelosi. Now they compete in the last loon liar standing contest.

All it takes to keep them up and telling lies larger and larger is your last tax dollar.

ps
ANY ONE NOTICE B. OBAMA IS A FORE FLUSHING LIAR, LIAR PANTS ON FIRE COMMIE LOON DISASTER FOR AMERICA.

"B. OBAMA IS A FORE FLUSHING LIAR, LIAR PANTS ON FIRE COMMIE LOON DISASTER FOR AMERICA."

Rotating title!

1039 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:29:35pm

re: #1024 Cognito

If you insist on being offended by that post, then feel free to include yourself.

I am and I do....what about that mantle?....describe this mantle

1040 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:29:35pm

re: #1033 Iron Fist

ow.

1041 unclassifiable  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:29:56pm

re: #1028 Sharmuta

Doesn't Mandy get a hat tip for that?

1042 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:30:04pm

re: #1000 avanti

I'm about to make a sexist comment. IMHO the gal protesting is not pissed that attractive women are being objectified, she's pissed that she's not a attractive girl.
The Hooters girls were just being sweet, and without saying a word, let her know that it's their choice of employment, not the protesters.

You're a typical liberal. When it suits your purpose, all that equality stuff goes right out the fucking window and you act just like some dude that just learned to walk upright a few hours ago.

Jerk.

1043 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:30:05pm

re: #1033 Iron Fist

(I just spent the last two hours getting roughly one quarter of my back tattooed :

Again?! IF, are you auditioning for the lead role in a play based on a certain Ray Bradbury book?

1044 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:30:18pm

UNCLE.

1045 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:30:33pm

re: #1030 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, I saw that one. Still, I don't want a flame war. How can we patch this up?

Get cog to apologize for insulting LGFers.

1046 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:30:36pm

re: #1021 avanti

I had a eye lift done with a bit of my foreskin, but now I'm cockeyed.

Ah yes, you've been circums-eye-sed.

1047 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:30:43pm

re: #1010 UberInfidel67

My Dad was always urging me to use Noxzema...my Mom does too. It always made me break out though.

I found I couldn't use any of the oxy products, they gave me a rash. So I used neutrogena and oil of olay. It got the acne under control, and didn't make me feel like my face was going to crack.

I've pretty much stuck with that, except that I've gone to a non-soap cleanser and the regenerist line. So far, I think I'm holding up.

1048 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:30:47pm
1049 pink freud  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:31:10pm

re: #1021 avanti

I had a eye lift done with a bit of my foreskin, but now I'm cockeyed.

Maybe that's why you can't seem to see Dear Leader for what he is.

/sorry, I couldn't help myself. :-)

1050 VioletTiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:31:36pm

re: #965 Bobblehead

It's never too early to take care of the face! Sun is the biggest culprit. I wish I hadn't spent so much time baking when I was a teen.


Yes, the sunscreen is the thing. I can tell immediately if somebody my age has used it or not. Sun ages the skin something fierce and those tanning beds are the worst. I'm married to a chemist in the personal care industry so I get all kinds of nice goodies for the skin. He made up this really nice cream during my pregnancy and it totally prevented stretch marks.
But none of that has stopped me from sprouting gray hair! Yuck.

1051 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:31:40pm

re: #1028 Sharmuta

I hope all of those who whined for cognito to be let back in are fucking happy now.

Again, I say: I knew what I was asking for, Sharmuta, and I do not regret it.

Still, Cog, remember this before you go too far:

The definitive When Did Cognito Get Banned timeline

1052 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:31:41pm

re: #1021 avanti
Dude! LMAO**************** That was just tacky. lol lol

1053 Aye Pod  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:31:41pm

re: #193 itellu3times

What is the creationist response to the size of the universe - just ignore it? I mean, with billions of stars in this galaxy, and billions of galaxies floating around, are they all empty except this one, or does God intelligently design (the same or differently?) for each, or wot? How many Jesii are required? Stuff like that.

These are the kind of details I'd love to see fleshed out as well.

1054 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:31:45pm

re: #1042 Walter L. Newton

You're a typical liberal. When it suits your purpose, all that equality stuff goes right out the fucking window and you act just like some dude that just learned to walk upright a few hours ago.

Jerk.

Actually, in this particular instance, I agree with avanti.

1055 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:31:59pm

re: #1045 Sharmuta

Get cog to apologize for insulting LGFers.

I didn't insult LGFers, Sharmuta.

I insulted idiots and moronic commenters.

If you feel insulted, then, so be it. Up to you.

1056 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:32:29pm
1057 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:32:45pm

re: #1030 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, I saw that one. Still, I don't want a flame war. How can we patch this up?

I've wondered if we can't manage to start leaving fights on the threads they happened on.

1058 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:33:02pm

re: #1051 Dark_Falcon

Doesn't matter to me a whit.

I'd rather be right. And barring that -- which is always possible -- I'd rather be honest.

1059 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:33:09pm

Why is Dennis Kuchinich even relevant ? How is he still in office? My chihuahua could do a better job.

1060 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:33:13pm

re: #986 UberInfidel67

My Mom always had pretty good skin. Even at 60, you would never guess her age. As I said simple is better. She grew up in a Catholic orphanage so none of that fancy face care stuff.

I agree about the simple part. I've found a some products and a routine that works for me and I've stuck with it.

1061 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:33:19pm

re: #795 Dianna

I love your apps.

Just added the complete American Heritage Dictionary, 4th ed., for thirty bucks! No more wrestling with that thing in bed.

1062 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:33:31pm

re: #1054 Occasional Reader

Actually, in this particular instance, I agree with avanti.

Well, so, in this case, you agree with Advanti, there, I said it. Take that, you cod, I mean cad.

1063 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:33:56pm

re: #1047 Dianna

So I used neutrogena and oil of olay.

Did you ever try the low-cost Mexican alternative, Oil of Olé!?

1064 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:34:11pm

re: #1042 Walter L. Newton

You're a typical liberal. When it suits your purpose, all that equality stuff goes right out the fucking window and you act just like some dude that just learned to walk upright a few hours ago.

Jerk.

I'm a libertarian when it comes to what a person wants to do with their own body. If a gal wants to make a good living serving beer and wings in hot pants, it's not of my business. I don't see that as a conservative, liberal issue, it's simply freedom of choice.

1065 VioletTiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:34:11pm

re: #982 Occasional Reader

Sweet jebus! It looks like the "AFTER" picture in a Taser test.

If she gets another eye lift, her eybrows are going to be on the back of her head.

1066 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:34:35pm

re: #1042 Walter L. Newton

Walter? The picture was funny, and illustrative. It was even kind of sweet.

How are you, tonight?

1067 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:34:42pm
1068 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:34:56pm

re: #1045 Sharmuta

Get cog to apologize for insulting LGFers.

That's not as bad as Myrddin Emrys who insulted not just us but, also 29,000 dead people and their relatives, as well as the concept of justice.

1069 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:35:06pm

My darling, dear wife (whom I adore) has apparently erased "Big Trouble in Little China" from the DVR.
*temperature rising*
How nice. I am truly a lucky, lucky man. Now I can't watch "Big Trouble in Little China"
*vision blurring*
She knew if I began to watch "Big Trouble in Little China" at this late hour, I would watch the whole thing until the wee hours.
*rage...taking over*
Sometimes I complain, but she really does try to take care of me.

1070 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:35:15pm

re: #1047 Dianna
For awhile there I was using the ORIGINAL Oil of Olay product. The smell reminded me of my Mother. lol Now they went and got all fancy with it, I am not interested. Can't anyone just leave anything alone?

1071 brookly red  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:35:35pm

re: #1057 Dianna

I've wondered if we can't manage to start leaving fights on the threads they happened on.

Whhha? you from Venus or something?

1072 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:35:45pm

re: #1049 pink freud

Maybe that's why you can't seem to see Dear Leader for what he is.

/sorry, I couldn't help myself. :-)

Nope, it's the rose colored glasses. BTW, I sort of set you up for that burn didn't I ?

1073 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:35:48pm
1074 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:35:50pm

re: #1059 bellamags

Why is Dennis Kuchinich even relevant ? How is he still in office? My chihuahua could do a better job.

When Gates leaves, Kookinich gets the nomination and promptly changes the Department of Defense into the Department of Whirled Peas.

1075 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:36:02pm

re: #1064 avanti

I'm a libertarian when it comes to what a person wants to do with their own body. If a gal wants to make a good living serving beer and wings in hot pants, it's not of my business. I don't see that as a conservative, liberal issue, it's simply freedom of choice.

"beer and wings in hot pants" is a conservative issue.

Some things need to be conserved.

1076 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:36:04pm

re: #1055 Cognito

I didn't insult LGFers, Sharmuta.

I insulted idiots and moronic commenters.

If you feel insulted, then, so be it. Up to you.

what do you have against idiots and morons...I might be one...do I get a Mickey Mantle?...

1077 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:36:06pm

re: #1068 MandyManners

That's not as bad as Myrddin Emrys who insulted not just us but, also 29,000 dead people and their relatives, as well as the concept of justice.

He/she didn't even present an opinion, just flat out said it was a waste of time.

1078 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:36:07pm
1079 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:36:15pm

re: #1004 Sharmuta

Yes- we're aware of that, asshole. Interesting you'd still want to hang out with people you hold in such low regard.

Busted....

1080 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:36:16pm

re: #1063 Occasional Reader

Did you ever try the low-cost Mexican alternative, Oil of Olé!?

Doesn't that attract bulls?

1081 razorbacker  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:36:16pm

re: #975 Alberta Oil Peon

You want to change that apple slice out pretty regular.

Or so I hear.

1082 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:36:17pm

re: #1050 VioletTiger

Yes, the sunscreen is the thing. I can tell immediately if somebody my age has used it or not. Sun ages the skin something fierce and those tanning beds are the worst. I'm married to a chemist in the personal care industry so I get all kinds of nice goodies for the skin. He made up this really nice cream during my pregnancy and it totally prevented stretch marks.
But none of that has stopped me from sprouting gray hair! Yuck.

Good advice.

I never go out in the sun without a hat.

1083 wee fury  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:36:30pm

re: #1067 taxfreekiller

Obama lies to get elected,,,,"I will not allow ear marks."

Obama lies after elected,,,,"We need these ear marks to save America".

Obama lies to himself even more.

Obama has big ears . . . and possibly marked.

1084 gearhead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:36:39pm

re: #1061 Cato the Elder

Just added the complete American Heritage Dictionary, 4th ed., for thirty bucks! No more wrestling with that thing in bed.

A true lover of words...

;-)

1085 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:36:40pm

Speaking of Neutrogena... for those of you who, like me, have ancestry that goes back to some foggy, chilly island, Neutrogena's latest iteration of their waterproof/sweatproof/everythingproof sunscreen is da bomb. I used it on my beach excursion in Uruguay a few weeks back; protects amazingly well, astonishingly free of any greasy feeling, odorless, doesn't run into you eyes and sting. It comes in a silver squeeze tube. Kind of pricey, but works very, very well.

1086 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:36:41pm

re: #1074 jcm

When Gates leaves, Kookinich gets the nomination and promptly changes the Department of Defense into the Department of Whirled Peas.

what a perfect answer. blended well with my buzz.

1087 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:36:50pm

re: #1061 Cato the Elder

Just added the complete American Heritage Dictionary, 4th ed., for thirty bucks! No more wrestling with that thing in bed.

Uh, dude ... TMI.

/

1088 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:37:03pm
1089 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:37:21pm

re: #1063 Occasional Reader

Did you ever try the low-cost Mexican alternative, Oil of Olé!?

Do any female lizards use the Jewish version, Oil of Oy Vay?

1090 Gus  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:37:26pm

OK, what happened? Over 1000 posts in a creationism thread and no comments deleted?

1091 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:37:45pm

re: #1078 buzzsawmonkey

Popular with matadors.

As Monty Hall used to say, picador.

1092 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:37:53pm

re: #1078 buzzsawmonkey

Popular with matadors.

I DID THAT ONE ALREADY! HA!

1093 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:37:59pm

re: #1063 Occasional Reader
I did once, but now I find Pepe having one hell of a time sneaking it across the border for me : (

1094 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:38:09pm

re: #1090 Gus 802

OK, what happened? Over 1000 posts in a creationism thread and no comments deleted?

Natural Selection.

1095 pink freud  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:38:18pm

re: #1072 avanti

Nope, it's the rose colored glasses. BTW, I sort of set you up for that burn didn't I ?

Did I say sometimeortheother that you saw the zero through rose colored glasses?

It's entirely possible, as that is what I believe of you.

So yes, I suppose you did.

1096 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:38:18pm
1097 bellamags  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:38:39pm

me too. sleepytime.

1098 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:38:49pm

re: #1050 VioletTiger

Yes, the sunscreen is the thing. I can tell immediately if somebody my age has used it or not. Sun ages the skin something fierce and those tanning beds are the worst. I'm married to a chemist in the personal care industry so I get all kinds of nice goodies for the skin. He made up this really nice cream during my pregnancy and it totally prevented stretch marks.
But none of that has stopped me from sprouting gray hair! Yuck.

Some women look wonderful with gray hair but my coloring is not compatible with any shade of gray. I'd save a lot of money every 6 weeks if it were.

1099 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:38:54pm

re: #1058 Cognito

Doesn't matter to me a whit.

I'd rather be right. And barring that -- which is always possible -- I'd rather be honest.

Still, sometimes you do come across as abrasive, and you really hit a nerve with Sharmuta this morning. Speaking only for me, I'd suggest that you apologize for any offense given. Your point (that some of the comment were hostile and snarky) had merit, but you delivered it in away that guaranteed a hostile response, especially given your history.

1100 Gus  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:38:58pm

re: #1094 jcm

Natural Selection.

They have evolved! We have converted them all!

//

1101 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:39:02pm

re: #1070 UberInfidel67

For awhile there I was using the ORIGINAL Oil of Olay product. The smell reminded me of my Mother. lol Now they went and got all fancy with it, I am not interested. Can't anyone just leave anything alone?

The original's still available. It just doesn't do the job any more, as I've gotten older and my skin's gotten drier.

1102 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:39:19pm

re: #1087 OldLineTexan

Uh, dude ... TMI.

/

(Do you think he cries out in ecstasy, "Oh, Edie! Oh, Edie!"?)

1103 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:39:20pm

re: #1081 razorbacker

You want to change that apple slice out pretty regular.

Or so I hear.

The apple survives past one session?

1104 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:39:39pm

re: #1047 Dianna

I found I couldn't use any of the oxy products, they gave me a rash. So I used neutrogena and oil of olay. It got the acne under control, and didn't make me feel like my face was going to crack.

I've pretty much stuck with that, except that I've gone to a non-soap cleanser and the regenerist line. So far, I think I'm holding up.

I used Prescriptives' All You Need, as well as their custom-blended foundation for years and years. Now, I use Balm Bar and Bare Minerals. The Balm Bar is what my nanny used for ages and it's reasonable but, that Bare Minerals plays out to about $75.00/oz.. But, it goes a long way.

1105 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:39:41pm

re: #1055 Cognito

I'm not the one spending time with people I think are beneath me. But please feel free to continue posting your honest opinions of us for all to see. Eventually people who stick up for you will get a clue.

1106 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:39:43pm

re: #1069 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It's available on Comcast OnDemand. I have a DVD burner. Would you like me to make you a copy? : )

1107 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:39:43pm

re: #1037 Cognito

If you repeat something often enough, it just might become true.

Right?

I don't know...care to enlighten us idiots?

/you said it, you own it...

1108 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:39:52pm

re: #1097 bellamags

me too. sleepytime.

Good night beautiful Lizard..weet dreams and a wonderful day tomorrow

1109 gearhead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:39:53pm

re: #1087 OldLineTexan

Uh, dude ... TMI.

/

Don't ask him about paper cuts.

1110 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:40:02pm

re: #1071 brookly red

Whhha? you from Venus or something?

Nah.

I'm just really, really peaceable in my inclinations.

1111 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:40:10pm

re: #1087 OldLineTexan

Uh, dude ... TMI.

/

Hey, I share my bed with a dog and about a dozen books at a time...if I could even afford to think about it, Charles would have sold me a Kindle already!

1112 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:40:11pm

re: #1076 albusteve

what do you have against idiots and morons...I might be one...do I get a Mickey Mantle?...

Yes, you get to touch his bat:

POW!

(kidding)

1113 outsidephilly  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:40:27pm

me three, my eyelids are gettin' heavy . . . . . . , g'night, all

1114 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:40:39pm

re: #1048 taxfreekiller

The ultimate Democratic dream is to enslave a minority of Americans to work their lives away paying the dole for the majority permanent underclass. The Founding Fathers warned us about the tyranny of the majority. The Dems think that is a swell way to keep their grip on power.

1115 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:40:52pm

re: #1070 UberInfidel67

For awhile there I was using the ORIGINAL Oil of Olay product. The smell reminded me of my Mother. lol Now they went and got all fancy with it, I am not interested. Can't anyone just leave anything alone?

My Dad always said "new and improved" usually meant "not as good and more expensive".

1116 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:41:08pm

re: #1101 Dianna

The original's still available. It just doesn't do the job any more, as I've gotten older and my skin's gotten drier.

And as I have gotten older, they have started printing books with smaller type, stairs are longer and I'm not sure if my mirror in the bathroom is working since I don't recognize anyone in that mirror.

1117 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:41:15pm

re: #1073 Iron Fist

I dated a cop when I was just out of high school. We both found the situation highly amusing. She didn't blink at much, not even when one of my boys put a gun to her head and assured her in no uncertain terms that if she hurt me he'd kill her.

I think that would probably send most girls screaming into the night :-)

I might've kicked down his door at night just to fuck with his head.

1118 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:41:25pm

re: #1073 Iron Fist

I dated a cop when I was just out of high school. We both found the situation highly amusing. She didn't blink at much, not even when one of my boys put a gun to her head and assured her in no uncertain terms that if she hurt me he'd kill her.

I think that would probably send most girls screaming into the night :-)

Not really. I'd probably take his gun away and break his arm.

Then run like hell, giggling.

1119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:41:30pm

re: #1106 UberInfidel67

Nah, thanks anyway. It'll come back on. Freakin' love that movie.

Guilty pleasure movie.

I love it when he shoots his gun in the air in the dungeon and dislodges a rock onto his own head. Laugh my ass off every time I see it.

1120 CapeCoddah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:41:32pm

re: #1029 UberInfidel67

My Dad taught me the "less is more" idea about makeup. And he would know....he was a guy who liked women so I trusted his judgment. Hell, when I wanna dress up a little now, I borrow from from my daughter. She has really good skin too though. She doesn't use coverup and gunk like that.

Yeah, Same here, only it was my husband who remarked one day Just before we got married that he really liked that I never wore it, which was a good thing, because I would not have started wearing it had his opinion been the opposite. My dad likes women in makeup. Our oldest daughter does not wear it, but, our 19 year old uses something skin toned that I find splattered all over the sink, adjoining shower and wall, like something was brutally murdered during the application process. I am beginning to think she uses a hydro-seeder or something to put it on. Drive me batty and is a bitch to cleanup.

1121 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:41:37pm

re: #1109 gearhead

Don't ask him about paper cuts.

Or the fact that the entire "H - L" section is stuck together.

1122 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:41:51pm

re: #1067 taxfreekiller

Obama lies to get elected,,,,"I will not allow ear marks."

Obama lies after elected,,,,"We need these ear marks to save America".

Obama lies to himself even more.

Well, can you blame him?

He's a little sensitive about ear remarks.

*whispers from off camera*
"...ear marks miss litella... ear marks."

*looks confused*

Ear marks?

Well, never mind!

/Emily Litella

1123 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:41:53pm
1124 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:42:00pm

re: #1077 Walter L. Newton

He/she didn't even present an opinion, just flat out said it was a waste of time.

I hope EVERYONE dings that shit-head.

1125 unclassifiable  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:42:12pm

re: #1096 taxfreekiller

[Link: www.nws.noaa.gov...]

check out the snow for New Mexico and the Texas Panhandle next few days

got that global warming ,,climate change deal a bit off base,,,,,,

sort of a double play...........

It's all economic.

When you are a Democrat getting thrown out in the snow right NOW, government help is a little more of an immediate concern than needing a federal A/C subsidy 50 years from now.

1126 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:42:22pm

cognita...you are pretty ordinary...your flowery words don't mean shit, did you know that?....

1127 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:42:27pm
1128 moonflower  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:42:28pm

re: #718 buzzsawmonkey

Actually the dye came from the murex mollusk, I believe. I have one of the shells that I dug up in Ashkelon, where they did alot of dye manufacture in antiquity.

1129 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:42:28pm

re: #1085 Occasional Reader

Thank you. I'll look for it.

1130 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:42:34pm

re: #1116 Walter L. Newton

And as I have gotten older, they have started printing books with smaller type, stairs are longer and I'm not sure if my mirror in the bathroom is working since I don't recognize anyone in that mirror.

Funny how that age thing works, isn't it?

1131 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:42:53pm

re: #1101 Dianna
I never see the original one. I may have to look harder.

1132 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:43:11pm

re: #1123 jcm

Hey! where did my road go.............

THEY have it now.

1133 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:43:17pm

re: #1083 wee fury

Well... dammit. :)

1134 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:43:18pm

re: #1119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nah, thanks anyway. It'll come back on. Freakin' love that movie.

Guilty pleasure movie.

I love it when he shoots his gun in the air in the dungeon and dislodges a rock onto his own head. Laugh my ass off every time I see it.

Don't be guilty. It's a great flick.


When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail."
1135 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:43:30pm

re: #1075 Harry Tuttle

"beer and wings in hot pants" is a conservative issue.

Some things need to be conserved.

Did you see that survey on porn use on the Net ? Guess which states had the users/ 1000 ? Not that I've ever watched any./s

porn

1136 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:43:31pm

re: #1047 Dianna

I found I couldn't use any of the oxy products, they gave me a rash. So I used neutrogena and oil of olay. It got the acne under control, and didn't make me feel like my face was going to crack.

I've pretty much stuck with that, except that I've gone to a non-soap cleanser and the regenerist line. So far, I think I'm holding up.

Well, these days I've dispensed with the noxzema, and I now only use
Oil of Old Age.

1137 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:43:42pm

re: #1124 MandyManners

I hope EVERYONE dings that shit-head.

Clean sweep of the bottom 10.

1138 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:44:05pm

re: #1129 Dianna

Thank you. I'll look for it.

YOU need it?! I thought you were Brazilian!

1139 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:44:18pm

re: #1127 taxfreekiller

Got some oil field buds from my Vietnam days who know the Bush family, I may get them to talk just past Pres. Bush to watch for a log on moment in time and he get an account here and I'll have him down ding Avanit so's Avanti can feel real put on by Bush Hitler , sort of a double ding down.

They did say GWB has been on the internet a lot.... spacejesus?

1140 cronus  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:44:34pm
DeWitt brings his Advanced Creation Studies class (CRST 390, Origins) up from Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va., hoping to strengthen his students’ belief in a biblical view of natural history, even in the lion’s den of evolution.

"You must unlearn what you have learned" Yoda

1141 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:44:52pm

re: #1082 Dianna

Good advice.

I never go out in the sun without a hat.

I spent my summers at the ****ry club growing up but, I flipped a moped off a 30-foot cliff and wound up needing surgical dermabrasion at 17.

1142 gearhead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:45:24pm

re: #1121 Occasional Reader

Or the fact that the entire "H - L" section is stuck together.

ROTFL!

1143 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:45:30pm

re: #1116 Walter L. Newton

And as I have gotten older, they have started printing books with smaller type, stairs are longer and I'm not sure if my mirror in the bathroom is working since I don't recognize anyone in that mirror.

But the last is in a good way!

1144 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:45:58pm

re: #1119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I like when he standing there looking like a hardass, with the red lipstick on. lol lol

1145 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:46:02pm

re: #1085 Occasional Reader

Speaking of Neutrogena... for those of you who, like me, have ancestry that goes back to some foggy, chilly island, Neutrogena's latest iteration of their waterproof/sweatproof/everythingproof sunscreen is da bomb. I used it on my beach excursion in Uruguay a few weeks back; protects amazingly well, astonishingly free of any greasy feeling, odorless, doesn't run into you eyes and sting. It comes in a silver squeeze tube. Kind of pricey, but works very, very well.

Your check is in the mail.

1146 brookly red  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:46:25pm

re: #1110 Dianna

Nah.

I'm just really, really peaceable in my inclinations.

ight

1147 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:46:25pm

re: #1141 MandyManners

I spent my summers at the ****ry club growing up but, I flipped a moped off a 30-foot cliff and wound up needing surgical dermabrasion at 17.

Don't be embarrassed about spending time with the Rotary Club.

1148 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:46:44pm

re: #1145 MandyManners

Your check is in the mail.

But wait! There's more!

NOW how much would you pay?

1149 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:46:50pm

re: #1147 Radicchio ad Absurdum

Don't be embarrassed about spending time with the Rotary Club.

LOL

1150 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:47:07pm

re: #1141 MandyManners

I spent my summers at the ****ry club growing up but, I flipped a moped off a 30-foot cliff and wound up needing surgical dermabrasion at 17.

What were you doing mopping a cliff in the first place?

1151 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:47:08pm

re: #1099 Dark_Falcon

Still, sometimes you do come across as abrasive, and you really hit a nerve with Sharmuta this morning. Speaking only for me, I'd suggest that you apologize for any offense given. Your point (that some of the comment were hostile and snarky) had merit, but you delivered it in away that guaranteed a hostile response, especially given your history.

Ah, no.

Firstly, Sharmuta's taken up a fight that doesn't even belong to her. She went back hours after my comment to be offended by it.

Secondly, I'm right. As you said, my comment "had merit."

I won't apologize to Sharmuta any more than I will apologize to someone else who, faced with a right assertion, takes solace hiding behind the broad legs victimhood.

No.

1152 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:47:09pm

re: #1139 Harry Tuttle

They did say GWB has been on the internet a lot.... spacejesus?

Hell no...GWB has infinitely more class than SpaceFungus.

1153 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:47:42pm
1154 VioletTiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:47:51pm

re: #1014 Dianna

BBIAB.

I want some wine while I write.

What do you write Dianna?

1155 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:47:53pm

re: #1105 Sharmuta

I'm not the one spending time with people I think are beneath me. But please feel free to continue posting your honest opinions of us for all to see. Eventually people who stick up for you will get a clue.

I was gonna' mention a psycho truck driver but I won't.

1156 CapeCoddah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:48:05pm

re: #1059 bellamags

Why is Dennis Kuchinich even relevant ? How is he still in office? My chihuahua could do a better job.

Your Chihuahua is certainly smarter!

1157 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:48:32pm

re: #1138 Occasional Reader

YOU need it?! I thought you were Brazilian!

I'm sort of blonde, OR. Remember? Mostly Irish...and I turn into a lobster after fifteen minutes in the sun.

1158 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:48:47pm

re: #1124 MandyManners

I hope EVERYONE dings that shit-head.

On every one of that troll's posts. And here's a link I would have liked to post on that thread. Its the Wiki page of Alexander Pechersky, the Soviet lieutenant who lead the revolt at Sobibor and gave the SS a very day. He was a true hero.

Alexander Pechersky

1159 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:48:48pm

re: #1153 Iron Fist

And Cognito thinks that that is just good journalism. It makes me wonder which side the Times is really on.

Quote please.

1160 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:48:56pm

This is a strange thread is it not? Skin care for the mature woman and a dust up between Shar and Cog.

1161 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:49:01pm

re: #1152 talon_262

Hell no...GWB has infinitely more class than SpaceFungus.

/thought that didn't need a sarc tag

1162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:49:14pm

Getting old and looking older is a part of life. Wish everyone wasn't so bummed about it.

My wife is a beautiful now (even though she has apparently erased "Big Trouble in Little China" from the DVR) as she has ever been. She doesn't think so, but she doesn't see what I see.

You want to know what I don't see? "Big Trouble in Little China". It's erased.

1163 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:49:17pm

re: #1141 MandyManners

Ouch.

1164 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:49:34pm

re: #1141 MandyManners

I spent my summers at the ****ry club growing up but, I flipped a moped off a 30-foot cliff and wound up needing surgical dermabrasion at 17.

Oh, noez. I mispelled "country". I'm sorry.

1165 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:50:17pm

re: #1154 VioletTiger

What do you write Dianna?

Currently engaging in the re-write of a novel about an abducted girl who survives.

Not fun.

Ask Walter - he's read the first draft.

1166 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:50:26pm

re: #1127 taxfreekiller

Got some oil field buds from my Vietnam days who know the Bush family, I may get them to talk just past Pres. Bush to watch for a log on moment in time and he get an account here and I'll have him down ding Avanit so's Avanti can feel real put on by Bush Hitler , sort of a double ding down.

Yep, if you can get some sock puppets to help you ding me down, I can get that ding down record a lot faster. With just your work, you can't exceed the one ding per post mark.

1167 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:50:26pm

re: #1162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
.......but you're not bitter. lol lol

1168 Aye Pod  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:50:29pm

Darwin's Dangerous Idea

1169 gearhead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:50:46pm

I knew it, OR is Vince Offer.

1170 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:50:47pm

re: #1147 Radicchio ad Absurdum

Don't be embarrassed about spending time with the Rotary Club.

ROFLMAO!

1171 irongrampa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:51:01pm

re: #1153 Iron Fist

You wonder which side the Times is on?

Please don't be offended, but after reading (and greatly enjoying) past comments, that strikes me as pretty niave.

Or did i miss sarcasm?

1172 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:51:25pm

re: #1148 Occasional Reader

But wait! There's more!

NOW how much would you pay?

How much do you charge?

1173 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:51:46pm

Pakistani Police Arrest Hundreds Of Activists
By Pamela Constable
Washington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, March 12, 2009; Page A08

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, March 11 Pakistani authorities arrested hundreds of political activists and banned public gatherings in two provinces Wednesday as President Asif Ali Zardari attempted to squelch a massive protest march organized by a coalition of opponents that includes lawyers and a former prime minister.
1174 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:51:47pm

re: #1160 Bobblehead

This is a strange thread is it not? Skin care for the mature woman and a dust up between Shar and Cog.

I'm just standing up for my fellow Lizards. If I had to choose between spending time with Lizards or employees of the NYT, I'd pick Lizards every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

1175 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:52:18pm

re: #1150 Walter L. Newton

What were you doing mopping a cliff in the first place?

About 25 m.p.h. when I hit the mailboxes.

1176 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:52:24pm

re: #1174 Sharmuta

I'm just standing up for my fellow Lizards. If I had to choose between spending time with Lizards or employees of the NYT, I'd pick Lizards every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

You've repeated your assertion once again.

And yet it remains untrue.

Odd.

1177 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:52:32pm

the broad legs of victimhood...whoa....I used to defend you Cognita and twice you cut my throat because you got so frusrtated you forgot who your friends are...it's all about you and your words...you forgot about principle and manners thinking about your image...you are no larger than the smallest person here....

1178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:52:42pm

I need to go to bed.

"Big Trouble in Little China"

sigh

1179 itellu3times  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:53:36pm

re: #1037 Cognito

If you repeat something often enough, it just might become true.

you rang?

1180 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:53:44pm

re: #1158 Dark_Falcon

On every one of that troll's posts. And here's a link I would have liked to post on that thread. Its the Wiki page of Alexander Pechersky, the Soviet lieutenant who lead the revolt at Sobibor and gave the SS a very day. He was a true hero.

Alexander Pechersky

Thank you for that link.

1181 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:53:52pm

re: #1160 Bobblehead

This is a strange thread is it not? Skin care for the mature woman and a dust up between Shar and Cog.

I could make it stranger and talk about a great prescription med for any man over 40.

1182 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:54:18pm

re: #1176 Cognito

Cog, if you start bad-mouthing Sharm, I'm going to go after you so hard you'll leave skid marks.

1183 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:54:34pm

re: #1178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I need to go to bed.

"Big Trouble in Little China"

sigh

If a bull terrier went on a rampage in a dinnerware factory, would that be "Little Trouble in Big China/"

1184 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:54:37pm

Limbaugh versus Carville on hoping presidents fail
By Dave Cook

Bill Sammon is a gentleman of the first order and a fine journalist. He has accurately transcribed an audio recording of the Monitor breakfast held on the morning of September 11, 2001 with Democratic strategists James Carville, Stanley Greenberg, and Robert Shrum. Sammon himself was not at the breakfast, but he was given a recording to help with a book he was writing. I did attend the breakfast.
1185 Wishing  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:54:39pm

re: #1150 Walter L. Newton

What were you doing mopping a cliff in the first place?

Dirt bikes leave a mess behind?

1186 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:54:42pm

re: #1053 Jimmah

These are the kind of details I'd love to see fleshed out as well.

There are discrepancies in Genesis itself. I like how God created man and women on the 6th day (Genesis 1:27) Then he rested on the 7th day. (Genesis 2:2) Then he created man again. (Genesis 2:7) Then God created woman again (Genesis 2:22). But you can only create something once. After that its a copy.

1187 itellu3times  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:54:56pm

re: #1178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I need to go to bed.

"Big Trouble in Little China"

sigh

Pork chop express, makin' bacon.

The chinese have a lot of hells.

Yeah, I know.

sleep now

1188 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:55:10pm

re: #1174 Sharmuta

I'm just standing up for my fellow Lizards. If I had to choose between spending time with Lizards or employees of the NYT, I'd pick Lizards every day of the week and twice on Sunday.


I'm with you on that sister!

1189 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:55:12pm

re: #1175 MandyManners

About 25 m.p.h. when I hit the mailboxes.

The the Postal Service know about your vandalism of their property?

1190 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:55:32pm

re: #1175 MandyManners

About 25 m.p.h. when I hit the mailboxes.

Ow!

1191 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:55:47pm

re: #1182 Walter L. Newton

Cog, if you start bad-mouthing Sharm, I'm going to go after you so hard you'll leave skid marks.

Bad-mouthing?

Walter, I'd invite you to read the exchange.

1192 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:56:32pm

re: #1164 MandyManners

Oh, noez. I mispelled "country". I'm sorry.

OMG, I thought YOU did that as a funny.

LOL.

1193 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:56:41pm

re: #1191 Cognito

Bad-mouthing?

Walter, I'd invite you to read the exchange.

I invite you to shut your mouth, period.

1194 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:57:09pm

re: #1193 Walter L. Newton

Bluster is easy. Facts are hard.

1195 lobo91  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:57:14pm

re: #1153 Iron Fist

It makes me wonder which side the Times is really on.

I quit wondering about that years ago...

1196 razorbacker  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:57:20pm

Municipal Poverty Pimps

Now you know why cities insist on having such poor public schools;

Because only morons would vote people in time and time again believing it's "outside forces" keeping them poor and not piss poor management on the part of inept socialist mayors and city councils.

Such a simple solution to the poorest people in America and they won't have any of it simply because they've been brainwashed to hate capitalism, free markets and independence.

Sad.

What I call a bug, others see as a feature.

1197 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:57:21pm

re: #1176 Cognito

You've repeated your assertion once again.

And yet it remains untrue.

Odd.

You have two options that will more or less restore the peace.

1) Say sorry.

2) Don't engage.

Either is acceptable, but please stop this. The remark didn't make me feel happy with you.

1198 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:57:55pm

re: #1151 Cognito

You and I deal with situations like this differently. When I find people offended, I tend to apologize unless the point is of paramount importance. Most points are not worth badly offending someone you spend a good bit of time with. But, I know you think otherwise, so it's just my 2 cents.

1199 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:58:04pm

re: #1163 Dianna

Ouch.

It was not long before my senior prom, too! Looking back, I was lucky that I had a superb plastic surgeon deep in the Smokey Mountains who had hospital privileges at Duke University's medical center.

I'm thinking of a face lift in a few years. I'd rather have wrinkles than gravity. It's easier to get rid of the former than it is the latter. And, it hurts less.

1200 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:58:25pm

The breaking news on a former FBI informant turning on Ayers/Dohrn tomorrow could be big. It's in the links above.

1201 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:58:57pm

re: #1178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I need to go to bed.

"Big Trouble in Little China"

sigh

Sleep well. You know about the stages of loss don't you? Sooner or later you'll reach the stage of acceptance. It may take a couple of days, but it will come. Have faith. We're here for you.

1202 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:58:57pm

See y'all in the morning. Hope y'all stop fighting.

The enemy is out there. He is Lo Pan.

1203 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:59:35pm

re: #1158 Dark_Falcon

On every one of that troll's posts. And here's a link I would have liked to post on that thread. Its the Wiki page of Alexander Pechersky, the Soviet lieutenant who lead the revolt at Sobibor and gave the SS a very bad day. He was a true hero.

Alexander Pechersky

PIMF

1204 Zimriel  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:59:37pm

re: #1173 jcm

Pakistani Police Arrest Hundreds Of Activists
By Pamela Constable
Washington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, March 12, 2009; Page A08

With that, and the Jawa Report telling me that Somalia is now an al-Qaeda emirate, I'm feeling about as warm and fuzzy as Otiluke's Freezing Sphere.

1205 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:59:42pm

Shall we go to the fresh thread?

1206 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:59:49pm

re: #1176 Cognito

You've repeated your assertion once again.

And yet it remains untrue.

Odd.

Keep it up, Ink-Boy, and you might edge out Myrddin Emrys in one of the Bottom Comments' slots.

1207 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:59:54pm

re: #1197 Dianna

Yes, terrible how I showed up on this thread and disturbed the peace.

I did it somewhere around comment... ah, comment... where was it again?

(Come on, Dianna. You're a smart lady.)

1208 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:01:01pm

re: #1198 Dark_Falcon

You and I deal with situations like this differently. When I find people offended, I tend to apologize unless the point is of paramount importance. Most points are not worth badly offending someone you spend a good bit of time with. But, I know you think otherwise, so it's just my 2 cents.

When I find people offended, I tend to examine whether I'm done or said something wrong. And if I have, I apologize.

There's an old definition of a gentleman: Someone who is never rude, except on purpose.

1209 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:01:19pm

re: #1182 Walter L. Newton

Cog, if you start bad-mouthing Sharm, I'm going to go after you so hard you'll leave skid marks.

START? He's been yapping at her heels for simply ages.

1210 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:02:08pm

re: #1176 Cognito

You've repeated your assertion once again.

And yet it remains untrue.

Odd.

You know what you little fuck? You've insulted the lizards way too many times around here..You, of great genius, can't smooth out any disagreements among any Lizards at level.. you always seem to enjoy being a jerk..
Anytime you want..meet me in the lounge..Let's take this off-line privately.

1211 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:02:21pm

re: #1190 Dianna

Ow!

More like a "thud".

I had no idea facial wounds bled that much.

1212 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:02:35pm

re: #1207 Cognito

Yes, terrible how I showed up on this thread and disturbed the peace.

I did it somewhere around comment... ah, comment... where was it again?

(Come on, Dianna. You're a smart lady.)

you disturbed my peace two weeks ago for no good reason...you are not who you think you are....ruffians in the gutter don't count to you do they?....you are laughable....

1213 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:02:40pm

re: #1184 jcm

Limbaugh versus Carville on hoping presidents fail
By Dave Cook

That is what as known as a smoking gun and confirms the Fox news story. Even Carville can't spin that. I'll predict he'll say since he retracted it before it went public, it's no foul, but it still is.

1214 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:02:50pm

re: #1207 Cognito

Yes, terrible how I showed up on this thread and disturbed the peace.

I did it somewhere around comment... ah, comment... where was it again?

(Come on, Dianna. You're a smart lady.)

I didn't see the original exchange. I clicked Sharmuta's link. It seemed a mean-spirited remark.

You are, of course, free to do what you like. But this sort of sniping is tiresome. Unless you really feel you have something to prove, why not just say "I'm sorry, that was badly worded and offensive"?

1215 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:03:04pm

re: #1192 OldLineTexan

OMG, I thought YOU did that as a funny.

LOL.

Oh, no. I despise that word.

1216 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:04:03pm

re: #1194 Cognito

Bluster is easy. Facts are hard.

'Cmon! Poke da bar sum moor.

1217 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:04:09pm

re: #1209 MandyManners

START? He's been yapping at her heels for simply ages.

Fascinating.

I was under the distinct impression it was the other way around. Please cite a single thread where I've showed up and accosted Sharmuta in any fashion whatsoever. And I'll provide you ten where it's the other way around. Starting with this one.

1218 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:04:29pm

re: #1211 MandyManners

More like a "thud".

I had no idea facial wounds bled that much.

Yes, they do.

Though when it's one's own, precious blood, even a few drops look like an ocean.

1219 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:04:36pm

re: #1210 HoosierHoops

Let's head on over.

1220 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:04:50pm

re: #1215 MandyManners

Oh, no. I despise that word.

Mandy, all I saw were asterisks. I thought you typed asterisks for a little homophonic fun. I'm a tad slow this evening.

1221 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:05:03pm

re: #1214 Dianna

I didn't see the original exchange. I clicked Sharmuta's link. It seemed a mean-spirited remark.

You are, of course, free to do what you like. But this sort of sniping is tiresome. Unless you really feel you have something to prove, why not just say "I'm sorry, that was badly worded and offensive"?

Because I am not wrong.

1222 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:05:15pm

re: #1177 albusteve

the broad legs of victimhood...whoa....I used to defend you Cognita and twice you cut my throat because you got so frusrtated you forgot who your friends are...it's all about you and your words...you forgot about principle and manners thinking about your image...you are no larger than the smallest person here....

And the thing is that I think Cog really doesn't care...I really do believe he feels he is one of our betters, with all of the haughtiness and bluster that entails.

1223 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:05:16pm

re: #1207 Cognito

Yes, terrible how I showed up on this thread and disturbed the peace.

I did it somewhere around comment... ah, comment... where was it again?

(Come on, Dianna. You're a smart lady.)

You patronizing sonofabitch!

1224 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:05:22pm
1225 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:05:45pm

re: #1217 Cognito

Fascinating.

I was under the distinct impression it was the other way around. Please cite a single thread where I've showed up and accosted Sharmuta in any fashion whatsoever. And I'll provide you ten where it's the other way around. Starting with this one.

girly mon....nice tutu

1226 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:06:03pm

re: #1091 Bloodnok

As Monty Hall used to say, picador.

and he would opun the the door

1227 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:06:39pm

re: #1218 Dianna

Yes, they do.

Though when it's one's own, precious blood, even a few drops look like an ocean.

It was a cut to the frontalis plate that narrowly missed my eye.

I freaked out a lot of people that day.

1228 unclassifiable  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:06:49pm

re: #1224 taxfreekiller

Dick heads do what Dick heads do.

not new this

Maybe we need the NIH to try to find the dickhead gene.

1229 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:06:51pm
1230 Aye Pod  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:06:57pm

re: #1186 Mich-again

There are discrepancies in Genesis itself. I like how God created man and women on the 6th day (Genesis 1:27) Then he rested on the 7th day. (Genesis 2:2) Then he created man again. (Genesis 2:7) Then God created woman again (Genesis 2:22). But you can only create something once. After that its a copy.

And the less said about Cain and Ebel's wives the better ;-)

1231 Aye Pod  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:07:27pm

re: #1230 Jimmah

Cain and Abel.

goddammit

1232 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:08:53pm
1233 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:09:25pm

re: #1223 MandyManners

You patronizing sonofabitch!

Let it go. I'm too freakin' tired to fight.

He can patronize me. It's no skin off my nose. I do my best to be pleasant, and offer reasonable options. If he doesn't want to listen, well, he doesn't have to.

1234 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:10:27pm

re: #1221 Cognito

Because I am not wrong.

I think your position's a little more ambiguous than that.

Whatever. Your problem from here on out.

1235 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:10:38pm

re: #1229 Iron Fist

This is your post. The post reads:


Do you deny thaqt the Times

1236 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:10:54pm

re: #1233 Dianna

There was no patronization. I meant it. You're a smart lady, and so I think you know -- and I'm assuming, but what the heck -- that you know exactly who here is picking fights.

1237 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:11:20pm

re: #1233 Dianna

Let it go. I'm too freakin' tired to fight.

He can patronize me. It's no skin off my nose. I do my best to be pleasant, and offer reasonable options. If he doesn't want to listen, well, he doesn't have to.

Your graciousness humbles me, Dianna.

1238 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:11:30pm
1239 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:11:33pm

re: #845 Dianna

Query for female lizards:

At what age did you begin your skin-care routines?

Depends on what you mean by routine. I was diagnosed with lupus when I was around 32, so I got very serious about using a moisturizer with sunscreen. I use a mild cleanser like Cetaphil, sunscreen in the morning (Blue Lizard, recommended by my dermatologist) and Oil of Olay Age Defying Night Cream. I'm 46 and people do not believe I am old enough to have grown children, so apparently it's working.

1240 pink freud  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:11:34pm

re: #1213 avanti

That is what as known as a smoking gun and confirms the Fox news story. Even Carville can't spin that. I'll predict he'll say since he retracted it before it went public, it's no foul, but it still is.

See? TRUTH.

Carville's a sneaky, slimy, oily POS, isn't he? 0bama makes him look like a saint in comparison.

1241 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:12:38pm

re: #1236 Cognito

Why don't you read Iron Fist's No. 1229?

1242 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:12:50pm

re: #1237 MandyManners

Your graciousness humbles me, Dianna.

It's not grace. It's exhaustion.

I'm actually horrified by some on-line fights I've witnessed. The venom makes me recoil. I don't want to be like that.

1243 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:13:14pm

re: #1047 Dianna

I found I couldn't use any of the oxy products, they gave me a rash. So I used neutrogena and oil of olay. It got the acne under control, and didn't make me feel like my face was going to crack.

I've pretty much stuck with that, except that I've gone to a non-soap cleanser and the regenerist line. So far, I think I'm holding up.

Please try the Dead Sea products. From the Zionist Mall, of course.

1244 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:13:18pm
1245 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:13:41pm

re: #1236 Cognito

There was no patronization. I meant it. You're a smart lady, and so I think you know -- and I'm assuming, but what the heck -- that you know exactly who here is picking fights.

you are a sissy...you insulted me and when I called you on it you ignored me....you went over the line and now you play stupid...you are a small person, not some trumped up victim...you stand for nothing, you are empty, you got no game...just words than can be refuted

1246 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:13:54pm

re: #1241 MandyManners

Why don't you read Iron Fist's No. 1229?

I tried to. I don't see his point.

He's making an assertion, best I can tell, about the New York Times and wiretapping. Which has nothing whatsoever to do with anything I've said. At all.

1247 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:14:27pm

re: #1236 Cognito

There was no patronization. I meant it. You're a smart lady, and so I think you know -- and I'm assuming, but what the heck -- that you know exactly who here is picking fights.

Not going there.

That's why I wish we'd adopt a lizard rule that fights stay in the thread they started in.

I'm trying my best to abide by that rule, even if I'm the one who made it up, and the only one complying.

1248 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:15:25pm

re: #1247 Dianna

I agree.

We'll move on.

1249 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:15:30pm

re: #1246 Cognito

I tried to. I don't see his point.

He's making an assertion, best I can tell, about the New York Times and wiretapping. Which has nothing whatsoever to do with anything I've said. At all.

Reminds me of a kid on a merry go round, trying to catch the brass ring...just aint going to happen lad.

1250 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:15:38pm

re: #1243 Alouette

Please try the Dead Sea products. From the Zionist Mall, of course.

I'll have a look. But I tend to stick with what I can find at the grocery store - it's easier, and I'm really lazy.

1251 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:16:36pm

re: #1230 Jimmah

And the less said about Cain and Abel's wives the better ;-)


And lets just all forget about the details in Genesis about the heavens and the firmament layer.

The YEC's can't just pick and choose which passages in Genesis they want to defend by disputing science. If they really believe Genesis is a historical account of creation than they should defend every detail.

1252 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:16:46pm

re: #1198 Dark_Falcon

You and I deal with situations like this differently. When I find people offended, I tend to apologize unless the point is of paramount importance. Most points are not worth badly offending someone you spend a good bit of time with. But, I know you think otherwise, so it's just my 2 cents.

I think the issue is largely like my analogy of the Redskins fan in the Dallas bleachers. If you are the Redskins fan and hear a Dallas guy yell "You suck", you might think twice about responding in kind.
I'm called every name in the book on here, but I know who's bleachers I'm seated in don't toss the insults back. It'll just result a dog pile like Cog is in

1253 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:16:53pm
1254 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:18:01pm
1255 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:18:57pm

re: #1247 Dianna

That's why I wish we'd adopt a lizard rule that fights stay in the thread they started in.

I'm trying my best to abide by that rule, even if I'm the one who made it up, and the only one complying.

I live by that rule.

1256 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:18:57pm
1257 albusteve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:19:02pm

re: #1254 Iron Fist

At least it wasn't Mr. Holland's Opus...

I think that was before your time, though. Damn, but I'm old...


but still effective....hang in there

1258 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:21:37pm

re: #1252 avanti

The analogy doesn't quite work. I'll give it a try:

Some Dallas fans: "That was a touchdown!"

Redskins fan: "Ah, they're at the 50 yard line..."

Some Dallas fans: "Sputtery sputt sputt spittle!"

Redskins fan: "Ha -- what?"

The vast majority of other Dallas fans: "Eh. Let's watch the game."

1259 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:21:56pm
1260 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:21:58pm

re: #1256 taxfreekiller

Of some note:

Few call me a dog and not get peed on.

That's odd since I've never said a unkind word to you, yet you've been pissing away on me regardless.

1261 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:23:40pm

re: #1242 Dianna

It's not grace. It's exhaustion.

I'm actually horrified by some on-line fights I've witnessed. The venom makes me recoil. I don't want to be like that.


Me too.
It's very easy, with the anonymity of the internet, to say rash things that one would probably not otherwise say.

1262 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:23:57pm

re: #1242 Dianna

It's not grace. It's exhaustion.

I'm actually horrified by some on-line fights I've witnessed. The venom makes me recoil. I don't want to be like that.

I wasn't exactly Polly-Pure today.

1263 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:24:02pm
1264 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:24:16pm

Isaiah 40:24

Yea, they shall not be planted; yea, they shall not be sown: yea, their stock shall not take root in the earth: and he shall also blow upon them, and they shall wither, and the whirlwind shall take them away as stubble.

I guess if you read the Bible you should know to stay away from investing in stocks.

1265 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:24:56pm

re: #1258 Cognito

The analogy doesn't quite work. I'll give it a try:

Some Dallas fans: "That was a touchdown!"

Redskins fan: "Ah, they're at the 50 yard line..."

Some Dallas fans: "Sputtery sputt sputt spittle!"

Redskins fan: "Ha -- what?"

The vast majority of other Dallas fans: "Eh. Let's watch the game."

OK, I get it, you enjoy making your point in a manner sure to encourage the dog pile. To each his own.

1266 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:25:18pm

re: #1258 Cognito

The analogy doesn't quite work. I'll give it a try:

Some Dallas fans: "That was a touchdown!"

Redskins fan: "Ah, they're at the 50 yard line..."

Some Dallas fans: "Sputtery sputt sputt spittle!"

Redskins fan: "Ha -- what?"

The vast majority of other Dallas fans: "Eh. Let's watch the game."

What do they call a drug ring in Dallas?
A huddle!
/man jorline is going to kick my ass for that one! LOL

1267 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:25:25pm
1268 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:26:08pm

re: #1246 Cognito

I tried to. I don't see his point.

He's making an assertion, best I can tell, about the New York Times and wiretapping. Which has nothing whatsoever to do with anything I've said. At all.

He is reposting your insult. Do you deny you wrote that?

1269 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:26:59pm

re: #1267 taxfreekiller

1270 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:27:39pm
1271 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:27:52pm

re: #1247 Dianna

Not going there.

That's why I wish we'd adopt a lizard rule that fights stay in the thread they started in.

I'm trying my best to abide by that rule, even if I'm the one who made it up, and the only one complying.

Doesn't that ignore trends? Remember Gordon? Should his history have been ignored unless he committed heinous acts in every thread? What about Savage_Nation?

1272 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:27:58pm

re: #1250 Dianna

I'll have a look. But I tend to stick with what I can find at the grocery store - it's easier, and I'm really lazy.

What could be easier than ordering something online, and get it delivered to your door? I'm really into the Ahava products.

Here is a tip: if you see the Dead Sea products from an Israeli kiosk at the mall, DO NOT PAY the first price they ask. They will ask 3-4x the price, just for the fun of bargaining.

1273 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:28:39pm
1274 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:28:48pm

re: #1262 MandyManners

I wasn't exactly Polly-Pure today.

What days have you been exactly Polly-Pure?

1275 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:29:20pm

re: #1272 Alouette

What could be easier than ordering something online, and get it delivered to your door? I'm really into the Ahava products.

Here is a tip: if you see the Dead Sea products from an Israeli kiosk at the mall, DO NOT PAY the first price they ask. They will ask 3-4x the price, just for the fun of bargaining.


This is absolutely true.
Whenever I say I can't or won't buy, they ALWAYS come down on the price. By a lot.

1276 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:30:03pm

re: #1274 Alouette

What days have you been exactly Polly-Pure?

Maisey: What!

1277 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:30:09pm

re: #1260 avanti

That's odd since I've never said a unkind word to you, yet you've been pissing away on me regardless.

It might be cheeky of me to say this but, you've pissed on just about everything TFK--and many of others here--honors and holds true.

1278 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:30:29pm

re: #1273 Iron Fist

OK, since you are determined to play stupid, let me break it down into something that my Parrot can understand.
You said


To which I replied, though maybe with to many big words for you, that we already know that the New Yorh Times has worked against the authorities, the real authorities, as opposed to, well, other ethically challenged people who call themselves "journalists". Or do you believe that the New York Times was deliberatelym, and with malice aforethought, working fo al Qaeda, whom they believe to be the "authorities" which they should be helping.

In simple terms, the New York Times is run by, at best people who were so anti-Bush that they did not mind helping America's enemies if it could harm the public image of the Administration. At worst, they were active accessories in treason.

Simple enough for you?

Nice post..
So do you think that the Times wanted Bush to fail? amazing!

1279 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:30:44pm
1280 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:31:29pm

re: #1267 taxfreekiller

Can not run with the big dogs, find a cat pile.

Cats are just as mean and deadly.

1281 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:31:36pm

re: #1261 reine.de.tout

Me too.
It's very easy, with the anonymity of the internet, to say rash things that one would probably not otherwise say.

Not confined to LGF, most blogs have folks that love tossing insults out over the net that they would never make in public. On a Studebaker blog, I made a enemy that said the nastiest stuff you could imagine. I knew I would finally meet him in person at a Studebaker meet and figured he would attempt to kick my ass. When I finally met him, he was one of the meekest guys I'd ever met, pleasant, but quite and unassuming. I figured we'd buried the hatchet until he got back on the keyboard, and off he went.

1282 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:31:37pm

re: #1277 MandyManners

It might be cheeky of me to say this but, you've pissed on just about everything TFK--and many of others here--honors and holds true.

Thank you Mandy...nice comment

1283 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:32:52pm

re: #1271 MandyManners

Doesn't that ignore trends? Remember Gordon? Should his history have been ignored unless he committed heinous acts in every thread? What about Savage_Nation?

Oh, I don't deny that you have a point. But there is a tendency to jump someone just because you're annoyed from the last thread.

There are times when it's justified. If you have to report someone more than three times, you probably want to track them. But...generally? I'd like to see more of us let things go than currently do.

1284 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:33:11pm

re: #1281 avanti

Not confined to LGF, most blogs have folks that love tossing insults out over the net that they would never make in public. On a Studebaker blog, I made a enemy that said the nastiest stuff you could imagine. I knew I would finally meet him in person at a Studebaker meet and figured he would attempt to kick my ass. When I finally met him, he was one of the meekest guys I'd ever met, pleasant, but quite and unassuming. I figured we'd buried the hatchet until he got back on the keyboard, and off he went.

LOL
you dang used car salesmen..Who knows what to expect?

1285 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:33:34pm

re: #1274 Alouette

What days have you been exactly Polly-Pure?

You gottafuckingask?

1286 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:34:13pm

re: #1280 MandyManners

Cats are just as mean and deadly.

1287 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:34:40pm

re: #1272 Alouette

What could be easier than ordering something online, and get it delivered to your door? I'm really into the Ahava products.

Here is a tip: if you see the Dead Sea products from an Israeli kiosk at the mall, DO NOT PAY the first price they ask. They will ask 3-4x the price, just for the fun of bargaining.

I've never bought from them, but they always have the hottest young Israeli men selling the products.

1288 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:34:45pm
1289 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:35:10pm
1290 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:35:57pm

re: #1283 Dianna

Oh, I don't deny that you have a point. But there is a tendency to jump someone just because you're annoyed from the last thread.

There are times when it's justified. If you have to report someone more than three times, you probably want to track them. But...generally? I'd like to see more of us let things go than currently do.

Sometime's a Lizard's history mandates that she or he be held accountable. Cognito has been banned already.

1291 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:37:30pm

I've tried to reply to posts but, it's just not happening.

1292 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:38:26pm
1293 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:39:55pm
1294 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:40:41pm

re: #1277 MandyManners

It might be cheeky of me to say this but, you've pissed on just about everything TFK--and many of others here--honors and holds true.

Mandy, in a alternate universe, you and I could share a beer and be fine, as long as we avoided politics. I have and will continue to disagree with many on here, but I've never made it personal. You voted for your guy, and me, mine. That does not automatically make either of us bad people, we just have different political agenda's. If I ever call anyone on here a name, or curse at them, please call me on it because that's me.

1295 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:41:13pm

re: #1290 MandyManners

Sometime's a Lizard's history mandates that she or he be held accountable. Cognito has been banned already.

Let me know when you catch me being wrong.

1296 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:42:26pm
1297 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:42:32pm

My impression of Obama as President so far is simply that he's not a very smart person. Average intelligence, average ability to convey a thought. Messiah? Not hardly. A random person from the phone book wouldn't have done much worse so far.

1298 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:43:27pm

re: #1283 Dianna

In my defense, I raised that insulting comment on the Shuttle thread because no one had seen it on the dead NYT thread. On this thread, the issue was raised by another poster, and I was asked why I had dinged down cog.

As far as I'm concerned, he's made a bed for himself, and he will get called on it on occasion as I think he should be. Letting people slide with bullshit is not the LGF way, imo. If it's upsetting to some Lizards that the bullshitter gets called out on multiple threads, I'm sorry. It's not a frequent occurrence however.

1299 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:44:32pm
1300 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:46:50pm

re: #1295 Cognito

Let me know when you catch me being wrong.

Cog, for crying out loud, no one is always right. Hell, it's politics, your right might be wrong to them and the reverse. Mandy is just as sure that she made the right choice with her vote as I am with mine, deal with it.

1301 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:46:52pm
1302 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:47:28pm

re: #1296 Iron Fist

You mean calling you a fluffy, huggable kitten doesn't provoke you? Damn! ;)

1303 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:47:35pm
1304 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:51:33pm

re: #1300 avanti

Cog, for crying out loud, no one is always right. Hell, it's politics, your right might be wrong to them and the reverse. Mandy is just as sure that she made the right choice with her vote as I am with mine, deal with it.

No, no. I'm wrong often enough. Take it at face value.

1305 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:52:00pm
1306 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:52:15pm
1307 Zimriel  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:54:06pm
1308 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:57:22pm

re: #1306 Iron Fist

I would be honored to have a drink with you. I've been thinking about heading to Chicago where there are a number of Lizards I would love to hook up with. Maybe that would be a good opportunity.

1309 useless  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:58:08pm

re: #351 Sharmuta

Hey, thanks.

Being a godless pagan my self, I only remember the childhood Christian stuff they used to make me go to. I don't understand (and I mean this) how Christians could and did laugh at my Indian (American) myths, but in the next sentence say that Genesis was completely true. It all sounds like bunk to me.

1310 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:00:20pm
1311 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:03:50pm
1312 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:04:45pm
1313 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:05:52pm

re: #1303 Iron Fist

Oh. no, I think a random person out of the phone book wouldn't have been this bad.

We spend billions of dollars on campaigns and waste all that time with primaries, debates, and elections not to mention the non-stop commercials, polls, and celebrity endorsements, and when we're all done we have an egomaniac dolt for President. He couldn't explain the Laffer Curve if his life depended on it. He never ran anything besides his mouth. He makes a box of rocks look smart.

1314 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:06:23pm

re: #1308 Sharmuta

I would be honored to have a drink with you. I've been thinking about heading to Chicago where there are a number of Lizards I would love to hook up with. Maybe that would be a good opportunity.

If you organize that Sharm, please do include me.

1315 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:08:00pm

re: #1314 Dark_Falcon

If you organize that Sharm, please do include me.

Okay! We'll see though- it might not be in the budget for me, but I do so love visiting Chicago, and it's been ages since I've had the chance to go.

1316 SummerSong  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:27:59pm

re: #1136 reine.de.tout

Well, these days I've dispensed with the noxzema, and I now only use
Oil of Old Age.

My family calls it, "Oil of Old Lady"...probably why I don't use it!

1317 Miles  Thu, Mar 12, 2009 1:17:05am

Wait a minute, here.

What we need is a poll.

Are most of you (including Charles), atheists?

Are you pro-atheism, in our school system (who the liberals have taken over)?

Is there a trend for Republicans to deny God?

My thoughts on the whole Creationism argument (which might lean toward a theistic totalitarian oversight, unlikely with overseers, like the ACLU) is rudimentary and feeble, with the real problems we have with kids bringing guns to school to kill people.

Children are now indoctrinated to resent the government, resent authority and resent their so-called "teachers", who preach atheism and the idea that God does not exist and your actions will not be accountable.

And, it's not only confined to America. A kid in Germany just shot up a classroom, full of kids and teachers, who were made victims by the government's disarming of law-abiding citizens. I'm sure that that kid was taught that there was no God and he would just wither away, when he turned his own gun on himself.

These inept "gun-free-zones" are nothing more than a "turkey-shoot" for sociopaths and murders to complete their psychopathic rampage, uninterrupted, via threat of an armed .

Christians believe to "turn the other cheek", until confronted with someone who wants to kill them and their family, to take their money, in exchange for drugs.

The whole premise is confusing to liberals, who want to disarm law-abiding citizens, for a strawman argument that Mexican drug cartels are spilling into America.

I'm being presumptuous and probably pissed a few of you off, here. Do I care? Nope. I'm a veteran of Desert Storm and a firm believer of the Constitution. And, I believe this country should acknowledge the fact that this country was founded on Christianity.

With all the problems in the world, I think getting back to the moral roots that our forefathers believed in and cherished, we need to reconsider the Republican Party and elect another Ronald Reagan, even if she is a woman and the MSM wants to focus on how her daugher's fiance just broke up with her, while John's mistress had a love-child and they barely broke a sweat.

But people are not perfect, Republican or Democrat.

I've been a disappointed Republican for so long that I'm praying for a responsible Democratic party.

/Dinosaur Rex=Albert Einstein

1318 Sharmuta  Thu, Mar 12, 2009 1:33:03am

re: #1317 Miles

No, I'm not an atheist, I'm a Christian. Accepting evolution has nothing to do with "denying God". It's possible to have both empirical science and belief in the Divine.

Gun control has nothing to do with evolution or science. School shootings have more to do with sociopathic tendencies and psychotropic drugs than atheism.

And this country was not founded on Christianity. It was founded on Enlightenment principles, and Greco-Roman political philosophy. Many of the Founders were Deists.

As for the indoctrination of children in public schools- the solution isn't more indoctrination from the right, but rather that of a focused curriculum based on real knowledge and not emotion based propaganda. If we want the children to be able to look at facts and ascertain the truth, then our best bet is to protect science education.

1319 Mich-again  Thu, Mar 12, 2009 3:28:46am

re: #1317 Miles

And, I believe this country should acknowledge the fact that this country was founded on Christianity.

I disagree with that. Thomas Jefferson would as well.

It sounds like you are equating evolution with atheism, which is wrong.

1320 Salamantis  Thu, Mar 12, 2009 4:03:04am

Miles seems to think that one cannot both embrace religious dogma and accept facts based upon empirical evidence. But one can indeed do so, provided that the dogma in question does not stray into empirical science terrain. The belief in a creator of the universe does not so stray; the belief that this creation happened a few thousand years ago, and that all the stars, planets, plants, animals, and people were created independently and as is in the space a six days does indeed transgress that line.

Ethics and morality does not depend upon the tenets of a particular religion, and in fact all religions appropriated their ethical tenets from the societies and cultures in which they arose and emerged:

[Link: pinker.wjh.harvard.edu...]

And even truth that is unpalatable to some is truth nonetheless:

[Link: www.naturalhistorymag.com...]

Excerpt:

Many people cannot bear to think that they are cousins not just of chimpanzees and monkeys, but of tapeworms, spiders, and bacteria. The unpalatability of a proposition, however, has no bearing on its truth. I personally find the idea of cousinship to all living species positively agreeable, but neither my warmth toward it, nor the cringing of a creationist, has the slightest bearing on its truth.

The same could be said of political or moral objections to Darwinism. “Tell children they are nothing more than animals and they will behave like animals.” I do not for a moment accept that the conclusion follows from the premise. But even if it did, once again, a disagreeable consequence cannot undermine the truth of a premise. Some have said that Hitler founded his political philosophy on Darwinism. This is nonsense: doctrines of racial superiority in no way follow from natural selection, properly understood. Nevertheless, a good case can be made that a society run on Darwinian lines would be a very disagreeable society in which to live. But, yet again, the unpleasantness of a proposition has no bearing on its truth.

Huxley, George C. Williams, and other evolutionists have opposed Darwinism as a political and moral doctrine just as passionately as they have advocated its scientific truth. I count myself in that company. Science needs to understand natural selection as a force in nature, the better to oppose it as a normative force in politics. Darwin himself expressed dismay at the callousness of natural selection: “What a book a Devil’s Chaplain might write on the clumsy, wasteful, blundering low & horridly cruel works of nature!”

Quotes from the first link in the next post.

1321 Salamantis  Thu, Mar 12, 2009 4:12:38am

[Link: pinker.wjh.harvard.edu...]

Finally, there’s the fear of nihilism: the fear that biology strips life of meaning and purpose. It says that love, beauty, morality, and all that we hold precious, are just figments of a brain pursuing selfish evolutionary strategies. For most people who ask the question “Why am I here,” the answer “To pass on your genes” is less than comforting.

To address this discomfort, one first has to distinguish between religious and secular versions of the fear of nihilism. The religious version is that people need to believe in a soul, which seeks to fulfill God’s purpose, and is rewarded or punished in an afterlife. According to this fear, the day that people stop believing in a soul, we will have, in Nietzsche’s words, “the total eclipse of all values.”

The answer to the religious fear is that a belief in a life to come is not such an uplifting idea, because it necessarily devalues life on Earth. Think about why you sometimes mutter the cliché “Life is short.” That realization is an impetus to extend a gesture of affection to a loved one, to bury the hatchet in some pointless dispute, to vow to use your time productively instead of squandering it. I would argue that nothing makes life more meaningful than a realization that every moment of consciousness is a precious gift.

Also, there is a problem in appealing to God’s purpose. Have you ever noticed that in practice, God’s purpose is always conveyed by other human beings? This opens the door to a certain amount of mischief or worse. Many of you are familiar with the satirical newspaper called The Onion. Four years ago, they ran the following notorious headline: “Hijackers Surprised to Find Selves in Hell. ‘We Expected Eternal Paradise for This,’ say Suicide Bombers.’” Admittedly, it’s in dubious taste, but makes an important point. Even if there are might be some people who can’t be deterred from mass murder by anything short of the threat of spending eternity in hell, we know that there are people who are attracted to mass murder by the promise of spending eternity in heaven.

To sum up: I’ve suggested that the dominant theory of human nature in modern intellectual life is based on the Blank Slate, the Noble Savage, and the Ghost in the Machine, and that these doctrines have been challenged by the sciences of mind, brain, genes, and evolution. The challenges have also been seen to threaten sacred moral values. But, in fact, that doesn’t follow. On the contrary, I think a better understanding of what makes us tick, and of our place in nature, can clarify those values. This understanding shows that political equality does not require sameness, but rather policies that treat people as individuals with rights; that moral progress does not require that the mind is free of selfish motives, only that it has other motives to counteract them; that responsibility does not require that behavior is uncaused, only that it responds to contingencies of credit and blame; and that meaning in life does not require that the process that shaped the brain have a purpose, only that the brain itself have a purpose.

Finally, I’ve argued that grounding values in a blank slate is a mistake. It’s a mistake because it makes our values hostages to fortune, implying that some day, discoveries from the field or lab could make them obsolete. And it’s a mistake because it conceals the downsides of denying human nature, including persecution of the successful, totalitarian social engineering, an exaggeration of the effects of the environment (such as in parenting and the criminal justice system), a mystification of the rationale behind responsibility, democracy, and morality, and the devaluating of human life on Earth.

1322 Yashmak  Thu, Mar 12, 2009 7:25:24am

re: #1317 Miles

Wait a minute, here.

What we need is a poll.

Are most of you (including Charles), atheists?

Agnostic here. I am pro-separation of church & state, which is different than "pro-atheism, in our school system" (in which certain Christian fundamentalists are trying to insert religion as science). Opposing creationism in the science classroom cannot be equated to a "trend for Republicans to deny God". . .especially since the Pope himself has no problem with the theory of evolution.

Children are now indoctrinated to resent the government, resent authority and resent their so-called "teachers", who preach atheism and the idea that God does not exist and your actions will not be accountable.

Teachers shouldn't be preaching any sort of religious belief, atheism, christianity, buddhism or otherwise. I've never heard of teachers indoctrinating children to believe that their actions will not be accountable. I've heard of politicians legislating measures that have that effect though. As for the school shootings, it wasn't the government that made the students victims. Regardless of gun carry laws, only a few school districts in this nation would allow teachers/staff to carry firearms on the job. The blame here should be placed squarely where it belongs, on the student who did the shooting. You really have no way of knowing what that kid believed or didn't believe.

Christians believe to "turn the other cheek", until confronted with someone who wants to kill them and their family, to take their money, in exchange for drugs.

I don't recall that caveat being in that biblical passage.

The whole premise is confusing to liberals, who want to disarm law-abiding citizens, for a strawman argument that Mexican drug cartels are spilling into America.

It's obviously confusing to you too, as you've been closely associated weakly connected (if at ALL connected) issues throughout your whole comment.

1323 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 13, 2009 4:31:55am

What is it you **** face?

-The Sound of Music...

Does LGF fix this ugly word?


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