More Evidence of Obama's Nefarious Plot to Indoctrinate the Children of America

More Evidence of Obama’s Nefarious Plot to Indoctrinate the Children of America

Charles Johnson

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Still more photographic proof that Barack Obama has the diabolical power to brainwash young children.

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reloadingisnotahobby Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:04:23pm

Need my foil hat before watching this!
Can't be too careful...///

Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:05:53pm

Fascism results: Salute!
"hey, it works!"

GCM29 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:06:49pm

Clearly he is trying to gain her knowledge.

CommonCents Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:06:52pm

Looks to me like Obama is saying "no questions, please" as he pushes the little inquisitor down.
/

CommonCents Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:08:03pm

re: #3 GCM29

Clearly he is trying to gain her knowledge.

Wouldn't he need to have his fingers split around her ear to use the Vulcan method?

Honorary Yooper Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:08:15pm

Obviously Obama is not an American citizen. He is an alien, and he is attempting a Vulcan mind meld in the photograph.

/Do I really need this sarc tag?

DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:08:17pm

re: #2 Killgore Trout

Fascism results: Salute!
"hey, it works!"

Is it just me or does the Secret Service agent in that one look like he's asleep on his feet?

Ben Hur Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:08:28pm

re: #6 Honorary Yooper

Obviously Obama is not an American citizen. He is an alien, and he is attempting a Vulcan mind meld in the photograph.

/Do I really need this sarc tag?

Yes.

DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:08:40pm

Gah... you keep sucking me back in. Must work on report...

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:09:00pm

Well, that's all the proof I need. Clearly this man is the worst embodiment of evil this world has ever seen.
/

Honorary Yooper Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:09:22pm

re: #8 Ben Hur

I guess. If you read it in the Weekly World News, it must be true.

GCM29 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:09:23pm

Seriously...since I registered this site has become a productivity thief.

shutdown Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:09:37pm

re: #7 DaddyG

Is it just me or does the Secret Service agent in that one look like he's asleep on his feet?

He has already been sucked dry by Obama-man's braindraining "Hand o' Doom".

reine.de.tout Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:09:40pm

Another photo in that series.
How cool is that, for these kids?

Kragar Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:09:54pm

Look out! He's about to deploy his ovipositor!

Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:10:01pm

I don't see intimidation or mind-melding, I see him healing this poor child. Light-worker and all that.

DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:10:37pm

Dunn speaks about controlling the message with the press about 2:00 into this clip. Oops... How soon before she ends up under the bus?

Youtube Video

re: #14 reine.de.tout

Very cool. I don't care who he is if my kids got to be in a classroom with the President I'd tell them to be good and treasure the moment.

Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:11:09pm

re: #12 GCM29

Seriously...since I registered this site has become a productivity thief.

Just conform already!!
/ and grab some beer.

Kragar Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:11:11pm

re: #16 Guanxi88

I don't see intimidation or mind-melding, I see him healing this poor child. Light-worker and all that.

//

I heard he once cured a ham.

Sharmuta Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:11:27pm

Won't somebody please think of the children!!1!

Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:12:08pm

re: #14 reine.de.tout

Another photo in that series.
How cool is that, for these kids?

They'll be talking about this for years. Why, years from now, they'll be telling their kids "Hey, you see President Obama there on TV? When I was a kid, he came and visited me at my school."

DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:12:16pm

re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I heard he once cured a ham.

That's a myth but he is going to allow us to smoke hams now. /

shutdown Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:12:38pm

What has truly happened in this picture is that the unfortunate child has an Obama-shaped growth coming out the top of her head. At the time this photograph was taken, the President was hundreds of miles away.

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Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:12:42pm

re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I heard he once cured a ham.

Funny, I'd always heard him described as the Ham that smokes itself, in reference to his theatrical flair and fondness for Kools.

Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:12:54pm

re: #7 DaddyG

Heh. It's probably one of the few times they get to relax on duty. Keeping on eye on the kids is probably a pretty easy gig.

Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:12:57pm

re: #22 DaddyG

That's a myth but he is going to allow us to smoke hams now. /

I'm gonna need a bigger bong.
/

Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:13:15pm

re: #23 imp_62

Heh.

DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:13:43pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout
That's what I was thinking. Those guys have it tough...

Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:14:05pm

re: #14 reine.de.tout

Kids really seem to like him.

dwells38 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:14:30pm

Of course it's laughable that Obama meeting with school children is anything other than super cool to meet the prez and get out of class for an assembly.

I'm more concerned about the concerted effort of the WH to forcefully delegitimize a media outlet merely because it's critical of them. It seems unprecedented and very Chaves-like.

White House Steps Up Fox News Attacks

DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:14:33pm

"Obama catches H1N1 Cooties from touching girls."

Kragar Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:14:45pm

re: #27 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm gonna need a bigger bong.
/

Get me 8" of cardboard tubing, some aluminum foil and some rubber bands!

/the Macgyver smoker

erraticsphinx Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:15:13pm

re: #31 dwells38

Heh.

Fox News lost my sympathies a long time ago.

Yashmak Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:15:21pm

It seems to me like the Man is trying to keep that little girl down.

Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:16:03pm

Vitter gearing up for a massive fail?
Vitter Alone In Silence Over Justice Who Refuses To Marry Biracial Couple

freetoken Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:16:10pm

re: #17 DaddyG

I commend her for being so transparent. Don't know why you think this is important... except that it is yet another "outrage" trying to make it to the top spot on the "outrage of the day" in the ugly-o-sphere.

Do you not believe that the previous Presidents and their staffs worked hard to make sure their administrations' spin was put on various issues and pieces of news?

DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:16:39pm

re: #31 dwells38

If I were the president I'd be visiting schools, scout camps, church picnics and every other kind of baby kissing, grandma hugging, kid teaching opportunity imaginable. ...and the country would probably be better off for my priorities.

John Neverbend Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:17:10pm

re: #35 Yashmak

It seems to me like the Man is trying to keep that little girl down.

As I mentioned in an earlier thread, I think he's curing "the King's evil".

soundboard fez Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:17:19pm

re: #14 reine.de.tout

Another photo in that series.
How cool is that, for these kids?

Mike Dukakis came to my school once and it wasn't very cool. But I was in high school by then and it was a couple years after he got waxed in the presidential election.

This looks way better.

Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:17:39pm

re: #39 John Neverbend

As I mentioned in an earlier thread, I think he's curing "the King's evil".

Scrofula is vanishingly rare. I think it's cooties, as another lizard suggested.

Ben Hur Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:18:03pm

I've met Reagan and Clinton.

Sharmuta Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:18:03pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

Kids really seem to like him.

Kids seemed to like President Bush too. They understand this is an important person for the country, and it's a treat for them to get this opportunity, regardless of grown-up politics.

You could tell Bush loved visiting the kids too, so I'm sure you're right it's special for the president too, and likely his most relaxing audience.

Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:18:03pm

re: #31 dwells38

It seems unprecedented and very Chaves-like.

No it's not. FOX is Obama's best friend keeping conservatives loony and deranged. There's no way in hell Fox News is going to be silenced.

Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:18:08pm

re: #40 soundboard fez

Mike Dukakis came to my school once and it wasn't very cool. But I was in high school by then and it was a couple years after he got waxed in the presidential election.

This looks way better.

Bet you were taller than Dukakis.

arethusa Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:18:18pm

re: #31 dwells38

Hugo Chavez actually shuts down radio and TV stations he doesn't like. There's a big difference.

pdc_lgf Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:18:31pm

re: #34 erraticsphinx

Re Fox:

Somebody on lgf did a nice post analyzing the distinction between media bias and having an agenda. If I wasn't a computer moron, I could find it for the group.

As for cooties - there's a cure?

SpaceJesus Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:18:59pm

stalkerblog is peddling the conspiracy that obama didn't go to columbia

Yashmak Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:19:11pm

re: #40 soundboard fez

Mike Dukakis came to my school once and it wasn't very cool.

As I recall, Dukakis wasn't really ever described as 'very cool'.

DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:19:35pm

re: #37 freetoken
It isn't important other than the fact that the White House should be more careful in their public pronouncements that they control the news cycle. Everyone with an ounce of intelligence controls their own spin but they have been careless in bragging about how well they do it. That's gonna bite them in the butt given their stance regarding Fox news and how welcome they are at the White House.

I don't see professionals on either end of this peeing contest. The White House needs to put some grown ups in charge of communications that aren't enamored with their own gee whiz talents.

Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:19:44pm

re: #47 pdc_lgf

Re Fox:

Somebody on lgf did a nice post analyzing the distinction between media bias and having an agenda. If I wasn't a computer moron, I could find it for the group.

As for cooties - there's a cure?

Circle, circle, dot dot, now you have a cootie shot?
/

Spare O'Lake Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:19:52pm

I'm glad the POTUS has time for these publicity shoots.

Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:19:59pm

This is certainly getting serious.

Kragar Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:20:20pm

re: #49 Yashmak

As I recall, Dukakis wasn't really ever described as 'very cool'.

Not cool? But he rode in a tank!

DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:20:37pm

re: #42 Ben Hur

I've met Reagan and Clinton.

They finally got the restraining order in place by Bush 2 huh? /

erraticsphinx Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:20:43pm

re: #52 Spare O'Lake

It's not like our previous president was in elementary school classrooms cause he was so busy.

Right?

Yashmak Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:21:24pm

re: #54 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Not cool? But he rode in a tank!

Yeah, I remember that. I think it's what got him stripped of any 'very cool' label he might ever have had. Not that he rode in the tank, but that he looked like such a goofball doing so.

DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:21:51pm

re: #56 erraticsphinx

It's not like our previous president was in elementary school classrooms cause he was so busy.

Right?

9/11 happened when Bush was reading a children's book to a class. Obama should be more careful. ///

Soundboard Fez Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:22:05pm

re: #49 Yashmak

As I recall, Dukakis wasn't really ever described as 'very cool'.

I dunno. The swarthy chest, the bushy eyebrows, his command behind the wheel of an armored combat vehicle ... The Duke was a man's man. /s

Yashmak Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:22:37pm

re: #58 DaddyG

9/11 happened when Bush was reading a children's book to a class. Obama should be more careful. ///

Heh. Yep, I hear the baddies time their attacks to coincide with these things.

John Neverbend Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:22:38pm

re: #31 dwells38

I'm more concerned about the concerted effort of the WH to forcefully delegitimize a media outlet merely because it's critical of them. It seems unprecedented and very Chaves-like.

As the article mentioned, so far this has only helped Fox News.

freetoken Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:22:48pm

re: #48 SpaceJesus

stalkerblog is peddling the conspiracy that obama didn't go to columbia

Some no doubt think "columbia" isn't even a school...

shutdown Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:22:50pm

re: #55 DaddyG

They finally got the restraining order in place by Bush 2 huh? /

Smoked lol.

dwells38 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:22:51pm

MSNBC has nothing but left-leaning hosts some of which are obviously peddling unfair characterizations of conservatives and their intents. That doesn't cause me to say they aren't a legitimate news organization.

Shawn Hannity doesn't tell Fox News what news to cover as I'm sure Rachel Maddow doesn't either over at MSNBC.

And those who say Chaves actually does close media outlets evidently do not realize how it started there. It was first a war of accusations and words just like this.

John Neverbend Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:23:22pm

re: #41 Guanxi88

Scrofula is vanishingly rare. I think it's cooties, as another lizard suggested.

I'm a bit behind the times. When Ojoe talks about Whigs, I think of Plantagenet Palliser and Mr. Mildmay.

Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:23:31pm

re: #48 SpaceJesus

Looking for evidence of Obama's past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there, but none remembered him.

Lol

Kragar Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:23:47pm

re: #57 Yashmak

Yeah, I remember that. I think it's what got him stripped of any 'very cool' label he might ever have had. Not that he rode in the tank, but that he looked like such a goofball doing so.

He forgot he had the mic running so they heard him making the engine noises and going "BLAM BLAM BLAM...KABOOM!" as he drove around.

DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:24:09pm

re: #63 imp_62

Smoked lol.

If I can't pwn fellow Lizards who can I pwn? (I'm gonna have to watch my back Ben Hur seems like the revenge served cold type).

John Neverbend Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:24:36pm

re: #62 freetoken

Some no doubt think "columbia" isn't even a school...

Of course he didn't go there. The fact that two of my colleagues who attended Columbia actually remember him just proves that they are hallucinating and should take extended leave from the office.//

Yashmak Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:24:39pm

re: #67 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

He forgot he had the mic running so they heard him making the engine noises and going "BLAM BLAM BLAM...KABOOM!" as he drove around.

Sad thing is, I probably would've been doing exactly that, had I been in that position.

Shiplord Kirel Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:24:53pm

re: #21 Guanxi88

They'll be talking about this for years. Why, years from now, they'll be telling their kids "Hey, you see President Obama there on TV? When I was a kid, he came and visited me at my school."

Very true. When I was 6 years old (in 1956), none other than Winston honest-to-God Churchill himself came to our school and spoke to us and even shook my little hand.

freetoken Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:24:55pm

re: #66 Killgore Trout

Dude... everybody knows he was on Tau Ceti at that time!

/get with the program...

Sharmuta Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:25:06pm

re: #66 Killgore Trout

Looking for evidence of Obama's past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there, but none remembered him.

Lol

I wonder if Fox's source was Chicken Kiev.

Kragar Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:25:07pm

re: #62 freetoken

Some no doubt think "columbia" isn't even a school...

Some are probably wondering about this unexplored Central American connection.

pdc_lgf Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:25:08pm

re: #51 Cannadian Club Akbar

Walter L. Newton has a point: this is getting seriously serious.

As for you, Cannadian Club Akbar, either you are being cruel to be kind - or just being cruel.

I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy the agony these cooties are causing me. It's comparable to - but worse than - staring at that photo of Mr. Dukakis in the tank. He looked like Rick Moranis in Revenge of The Nerds. I got taunted for days at work for kinda-sorta defending the guy.

... Nobody knows the trouble I've seen, ...

DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:25:47pm

re: #71 Shiplord Kirel

Very true. When I was 6 years old (in 1956), none other than Winston honest-to-God Churchill himself came to our school and spoke to us and even shook my little hand.

I am jealous! Of course in 1956 I was a decade shy of being 1.

Crimsonfisted Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:26:02pm

He is probing the brain for skeletal girth before he eats it.

I could be wrong.

William of Orange Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:26:12pm

Must be a Midas touch.

Ain't it great to wind up the right wing kooks.

Sharmuta Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:26:32pm

re: #72 freetoken

Dude... everybody knows he was on Tau Ceti at that time!

/get with the program...

He was "possibly" spending time with the weather underground. That was the pre-election kook-fodder, anyways. Interesting it's being revived.

shutdown Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:26:34pm

Snack. Grocery shopping. BBL.

Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:26:35pm

re: #64 dwells38

MSNBC has nothing but left-leaning hosts some of which are obviously peddling unfair characterizations of conservatives and their intents. That doesn't cause me to say they aren't a legitimate news organization.

Shawn Hannity doesn't tell Fox News what news to cover as I'm sure Rachel Maddow doesn't either over at MSNBC.

And those who say Chaves actually does close media outlets evidently do not realize how it started there. It was first a war of accusations and words just like this.

You may not say it, but the administration has spoken, and I think this is a lesson to those who think they can continue to oppose his policies.

Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:26:43pm

re: #71 Shiplord Kirel

Very true. When I was 6 years old (in 1956), none other than Winston honest-to-God Churchill himself came to our school and spoke to us and even shook my little hand.

I'd never shut up about something that cool. I saw David Byrne on the street once, said hello, and still haven't stopped boring people with this brush with greatness.

Yashmak Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:27:15pm

re: #71 Shiplord Kirel

Very true. When I was 6 years old (in 1956), none other than Winston honest-to-God Churchill himself came to our school and spoke to us and even shook my little hand.

Lucky guy. If I had to point to one person I've always idolized, it would be him. The volume of his life experience, his accomplishments (and failures!), man oh man what an incredible individual.

Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:27:54pm

re: #31 dwells38

Of course it's laughable that Obama meeting with school children is anything other than super cool to meet the prez and get out of class for an assembly.

I'm more concerned about the concerted effort of the WH to forcefully delegitimize a media outlet merely because it's critical of them. It seems unprecedented and very Chaves-like.

White House Steps Up Fox News Attacks

This is a case of a commercial news network reporting on itself, something that causes me to be even more critical in assessing it.

Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:28:12pm

re: #82 Guanxi88

I'd never shut up about something that cool. I saw David Byrne on the street once, said hello, and still haven't stopped boring people with this brush with greatness.

No, really, if I'd ever met Churchill in any way, shape, manner or form, I'd put it on my resume, business cards, etc. and wear t-shirts to inform mere mortals of the fact.

erraticsphinx Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:28:54pm

re: #64 dwells38

Fox News was chief cheerleader and pom-pom giver outer at the Tea Parties.
It was quite shameful and it made them, in my eyes, not a legitimate news organization but rather an opinion station.

I don't think anyone wants them shut down, just relegated to the fringes of society (like their evening lineup).

Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:28:57pm

re: #31 dwells38

Yeah poor Fox, getting called on endlessly lying and promoting craziness.

Yashmak Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:29:06pm

re: #85 Guanxi88

No, really, if I'd ever met Churchill in any way, shape, manner or form, I'd put it on my resume, business cards, etc. and wear t-shirts to inform mere mortals of the fact.

No joke. I'd start every conversation with "Have I told you about the time Churchill shook my hand?".

Spare O'Lake Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:29:28pm

re: #56 erraticsphinx

It's not like our previous president was in elementary school classrooms cause he was so busy.

Right?

THEY DID IT TOO!
Oh brother.

shutdown Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:30:06pm

re: #85 Guanxi88

No, really, if I'd ever met Churchill in any way, shape, manner or form, I'd put it on my resume, business cards, etc. and wear t-shirts to inform mere mortals of the fact.

Hmmm. I used to walk by Donald Trump on my way to the office. He was outside Trump Tower putting little Ivanka on the school bus. I tried to say hello to him once but his bodyguard wasn't so interested in making the introduction. True story.

John Neverbend Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:30:25pm

re: #71 Shiplord Kirel

Very true. When I was 6 years old (in 1956), none other than Winston honest-to-God Churchill himself came to our school and spoke to us and even shook my little hand.

One of my earliest memories is watching Churchill's funeral on black and white television.

When you saw him, did he tell you the Stanley Baldwin joke or advocate the study of Latin and Greek?

erraticsphinx Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:31:30pm

re: #89 Spare O'Lake

Uh, I don't think that was the point of what I said.
I wasn't attacking Bush for his visits, every president should/has done them.
So you should have the same standard for Obama.

But go ahead.

Kragar Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:31:54pm

re: #82 Guanxi88

I'd never shut up about something that cool. I saw David Byrne on the street once, said hello, and still haven't stopped boring people with this brush with greatness.

I almost got run over by Weird Al while walking thru a parking lot. Plus I met Rikki Rocket (or Rick as my mom called him) from Poison when he came over to parent's place

Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:31:56pm

re: #86 erraticsphinx

Fox News was chief cheerleader and pom-pom giver outer at the Tea Parties.
It was quite shameful and it made them, in my eyes, not a legitimate news organization but rather an opinion station.

I don't think anyone wants them shut down, just relegated to the fringes of society (like their evening lineup).

"cutting legs off"? "bringing knives to a gunfight"?

Just the tone of the article makes on queasy. No wonder they are being called out for going beyond being critical and going over the top with unsubstantiated fear and hate mongering.

Yashmak Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:32:07pm

re: #90 imp_62

Hmmm. I used to walk by Donald Trump on my way to the office. He was outside Trump Tower putting little Ivanka on the school bus. I tried to say hello to him once but his bodyguard wasn't so interested in making the introduction. True story.

Now him, I did meet. He happened to be in the Windows of the World restaraunt atop the WTC in 1989, when I ate there. I got his autograph on a napkin.

Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:32:10pm

re: #91 John Neverbend

One of my earliest memories is watching Churchill's funeral on black and white television.

When you saw him, did he tell you the Stanley Baldwin joke or advocate the study of Latin and Greek?

I saw the repeat of the funeral in 1966, during the summer sweeps.

Shiplord Kirel Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:32:38pm

re: #85 Guanxi88

No, really, if I'd ever met Churchill in any way, shape, manner or form, I'd put it on my resume, business cards, etc. and wear t-shirts to inform mere mortals of the fact.

I do bring it up once in a while;)
Our teacher, Mrs. Rice, told us he was the greatest man in the world and threatened us with hideous consequences if we misbehaved in any way. It was some time before I understood just how important a person he was and how cool it really was to have met him.

Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:33:15pm

re: #96 Walter L. Newton

I saw the repeat of the funeral in 1966, during the summer sweeps.

I remember being really annoyed that none of my favorite cartoon shows were because of the JFK funeral on all the channels.

pdc_lgf Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:33:28pm

re: #88 Yashmak

I'm with you, brother. Which might cause you to change your position.

I met Mayor Harold Washington. A remarkable man. He was already ailing with the heart problems which killed him, but he had a kind of Santa Klaus glow. A mixture of sweetness and intellect.

As for Fox. As the fellow said, Fox has crossed the line: they organize Tea Parties.

All the outlets are biased. Some more than others. But there truly is a difference here.

As for going after critics, isn't that what, say, President Truman did?

100

arethusa Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:33:40pm

re: #69 John Neverbend

Exactly, and the articles he wrote for the Columbia student paper were planted much later.

///

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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:34:08pm

re: #86 erraticsphinx

Fox News was chief cheerleader and pom-pom giver outer at the Tea Parties.
It was quite shameful and it made them, in my eyes, not a legitimate news organization but rather an opinion station.

I don't think anyone wants them shut down, just relegated to the fringes of society (like their evening lineup).

You're right. It was nothing like that wall to wall coverage CNN gave the gay rights rally a week ago. Bad Fox, Bad.
//

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Yashmak Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:34:28pm

re: #99 pdc_lgf

I'm with you, brother. Which might cause you to change your position.

I don't see why it would :)

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dwells38 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:34:46pm

re: #86 erraticsphinx

Evidently covering the story equates in your mind to chief cheerleader and pom-pom giver

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pdc_lgf Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:34:56pm

re: #101 Walter L. Newton

But they didn't organize that rally.

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erraticsphinx Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:37:10pm

re: #103 dwells38

They didn't just "cover" the story. Glenn Beck's various fan clubs organized a big bunch of them. They were promoting for weeks and week, "Come on down! Every patriotic opposer of Obama is here!".

They weren't a neutral observer, but an active participant. Who has the video of the Fox host rallying the crowd for a tv shot?

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simoom Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:37:12pm

re: #50 DaddyG

It isn't important other than the fact that the White House should be more careful in their public pronouncements that they control the news cycle. Everyone with an ounce of intelligence controls their own spin but they have been careless in bragging about how well they do it. That's gonna bite them in the butt given their stance regarding Fox news and how welcome they are at the White House.

I just don't get what folks are seeing in that clip. She's just participating in a postmortem on the campaign, shortly after the election (she was the Communications Director for OFA), describing why they used so much alternative media (fightthesmears, youtube videos of all events, etc) and preferred live events over the editing/editorial decisions of the sound-bite media.

How is that shocking or any different than others in the Obama campaign were saying in response to press questions about their robust alternative media strategy? I mean it's not like their use of additional mediums of getting out their message meant Obama was seriously curtailing tradition press conferences and interviews; isn't the Right's usual talking point here that he's doing too many and is overexposed?

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pdc_lgf Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:37:22pm

re: #100 arethusa

It was those traveling-back-in-time particles which keep breaking the super-collider. They were used to rewrite history. ... Yeah, that's the ticket.

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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:37:35pm

re: #104 pdc_lgf

But they didn't organize that rally.

So? How many times have news agencies arranged special reports. What's a special report but a hour or two of bias reporting, highlighting a subject. Oh, I know, no other news agency has ever produced a special report that is biased.

Sorry, my bad.

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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:38:17pm

re: #91 John Neverbend

One of my earliest memories is watching Churchill's funeral on black and white television.

When you saw him, did he tell you the Stanley Baldwin joke or advocate the study of Latin and Greek?

None of that. I remember being struck by how ruddy he was in appearance. I had only seen him on B&W television before that and, like many children of the time, I probably assumed that he was monochrome in real life. He asked me what my dad did with the USAF and when I named the squadron and wing, Mr. Churchill was able to reel off its WW2 history in a few seconds, as though from casual memory.

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erraticsphinx Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:40:39pm

re: #108 Walter L. Newton

Fox News' "special reports" last...all day. Every day.

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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:41:07pm

He's got good kid presence.

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pdc_lgf Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:41:18pm

re: #108 Walter L. Newton

It's not your bad. You've made your point. News organizations select what to cover, and sometimes cross the line into shaping events. Like only covering town-hall meetings which got ugly.

But Fox promoted the Tea Parties. Aggressively.

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dwells38 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:41:55pm

re: #105 erraticsphinx

Yes who has it? I would like to see how it is so beyond the pall that they are now no longer a legitimate news outlet and the TV version of Newsmax which of course will run with any old conspiracy such as birthers and the like without fact-checking and double sourcing.

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Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:42:17pm

re: #110 erraticsphinx

Fox News' "special reports" last...all day. Every day.

Trying to understand where this is going - shall we just snub them, shun them, or do you propose that they just be frozen out by the WH, whose example should be followed by all other right-thinking news outlets?

Perhaps some other intervention you have in mind, or is it just griping?

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badger1970 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:43:07pm

re: #105 erraticsphinx

OK, so Fox should have their FCC license pulled? It's one thing to call out a news outlet as being unfair, another one all together to encourage Fox competitors, who are friendly to the WH, to band together on one common message.

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erraticsphinx Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:43:52pm

re: #114 Guanxi88

I don't think they should be snubbed. Just treated like an opinion news outlet, not a legitimate news source.
Don't really see anything Chavez-like about that.

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dwells38 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:44:26pm

re: #115 badger1970

Yes and the latter is downright creepy.

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Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:46:17pm

re: #116 erraticsphinx

I don't think they should be snubbed. Just treated like an opinion news outlet, not a legitimate news source.
Don't really see anything Chavez-like about that.

Nor do I. So, to clarify, then, just ignored, by the WH and the legitimate press corps alike?

Secondly, if they're a purely opinion-driven outlet, I wonder what effect this would have on the public-service provisions of their broadcast licenses? Maybe there is, or will be, some action on that front.

Goodness knows, though, we have no cause for concern over anything Chavez-like at the FCC. There's certainly no sympathy for his regime and way of operating at ANY level of our government, and certainly not in the FCC.

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pdc_lgf Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:46:24pm

re: #115 badger1970

Look, the WH is pretty much calling a spade a spade. I've watched Fox and they really do come across as a mouthpiece for the Republicans.

And that's all they're doing - calling a spade a spade. There's nothing nefarious or underhanded about it.

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erraticsphinx Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:49:30pm

re: #118 Guanxi88

Where is the sympathy for Chavez at the FCC?
Do tell.

But yes, they should be shunned by both the White House and legitimate news media.

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Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:51:24pm

re: #120 erraticsphinx

Where is the sympathy for Chavez at the FCC?
Do tell.

But yes, they should be shunned by both the White House and legitimate news media.

Mark Lloyd, Diversity Chief of the FCC;

Youtube Video

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Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:53:20pm

re: #120 erraticsphinx

But yes, they should be shunned by both the White House and legitimate news media.

Follow-up question, then:

Should FoxNews' exile from respectability be continued until such time as the White House determines that their content is more in line with their expectations, or would a simple groveliing apology suffice?

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erraticsphinx Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:57:52pm

re: #121 Guanxi88

Thanks for that, but the poster's profile is a little interesting, don't you think?

re: #122 Guanxi88

What Fox chooses to do will be their own business decision.

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pdc_lgf Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:58:02pm

re: #115 badger1970

Correction: "And that's all they're doing - calling a spade a spade. "
Should read "And that's all the WH is doing - calling a spade a spade."

The ambiguity of what I wrote is one thing. The ugly double-entendre - entirely unintentional - belatedly occurred to me. My apologies.

Nobody should do anything about Fox. The WH is free to comment on what Fox does. Fox is free to continue behaving like a European-style media outlet, keeping its POV front and center.

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Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:58:30pm

re: #121 Guanxi88

Mark Lloyd, Diversity Chief of the FCC;

[Video]

A bit more about this fellow:

[Link: www.americanprogress.org...]

re: #123 erraticsphinx

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Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 1:02:16pm

re: #123 erraticsphinx

Thanks for that, but the poster's profile is a little interesting, don't you think?

re: #122 Guanxi88

What Fox chooses to do will be their own business decision.

Fine, pull it in from any other person who posted it. It was the first one I grabbed off Youtube.

Exclude the package, what about the content?

And as far as their business decision-making, I think this whole thing is good for both sides.

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erraticsphinx Mon, Oct 19, 2009 1:03:59pm

re: #126 Guanxi88

Thanks for the article and the video.

And yes, I suspect it will be a temporary boon for Fox News as conservatives flock to defend them.

I don't know about the long-term effects. We'll have to see.

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Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 1:05:06pm

re: #127 erraticsphinx

Thanks for the article and the video.

And yes, I suspect it will be a temporary boon for Fox News as conservatives flock to defend them.

I don't know about the long-term effects. We'll have to see.

I've got a theory that there's some strategery in play here:

The WH would love to have the opposition to rally to, and be tainted by, the worst whackiness of Fox.

Fox would love to have more eyes on its commercials.

It's a win/win, really.

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erraticsphinx Mon, Oct 19, 2009 1:05:35pm

re: #128 Guanxi88

Hmm, I suspect you're right.

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watching you tiny alien kittens are Mon, Oct 19, 2009 1:16:42pm

Why is no one saving these poor children from being indoctrinated into socialism by the Presidents "koolaid touch" ™. Please wont someone think of the children?

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pdc_lgf Mon, Oct 19, 2009 1:16:52pm

re: #128 Guanxi88

I think the old saw "friends come and go; enemies accumulate" applies. For the WH, friends come and go. In any event the current POTUS will be gone in 3 or 7 years. For Fox, enemies accumulate.

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aagcobb Mon, Oct 19, 2009 1:34:23pm

re: #6 Honorary Yooper

Obviously Obama is not an American citizen. He is an alien, and he is attempting a Vulcan mind meld in the photograph.

/Do I really need this sarc tag?

My nirther theory is that Stanley Ann Obama didn't go to Kenya as a pregnant teenager, but rather went to Cape Canaveral where she stowed away on a unmanned mercury spacecraft being test launched in September, 1961, and that she gave birth to Barack while in orbit, making him an ET, not a natural born citizen! NASA, of course, covered it all up, just like they cover up for the aliens who are abducting and probing real citizens. I have recalled memories of being probed dozens of times. /

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GCM29 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 2:49:58pm

Fox is loving every minute of this nontroversy, I wish they would muzzle Beck but they aren't going to because he's getting them ratings. If I was Obama I wouldn't be on that network either. This is pretty common politics, Bush didn't appear all that often on MSNBC as I recall. MSNBC is a left leaning orangization, going so far as to have their dayside 'straight news anchors' fill in for the prime time hosts on Countdown, Rachel Maddow, and Chris Matthews shows which are obviously leftist opinion programs. So, basically, if you're looking for news without slant you're probably going to be looking for a long time.

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kellygrrrl Mon, Oct 19, 2009 4:17:42pm

Oh Noez! next he'll be sucking the brains out of Barfing Balloon Boy!

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dwells38 Tue, Oct 20, 2009 5:13:15am

re: #87 LudwigVanQuixote

Unreal double standared you lefties have. Maybe you're like Bill Maher and wax wistfully about Chinese dictatorship?

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