Happy Mom’s Day
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Here are our very best LGF wishes to all mothers everywhere, on this, their day, with an open thread for the afternoon.
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_RememberTonyC Sun, May 9, 2010 2:03:07pm |
Happy Mother’s Day to all Moms out there. Moms are the best!
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PhillyPretzel Sun, May 9, 2010 2:04:02pm |
Ahh. A fresh thread. A very Happy Mother’s Day to all of the mothers in the LGF family.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, May 9, 2010 2:06:49pm |
So far I have heard from 4 of my 9 kids.
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Ojoe Sun, May 9, 2010 2:06:56pm |
Always be nice to your mother. You only have one mother.
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Political Atheist Sun, May 9, 2010 2:07:18pm |
Happy Mothers Day indeed. ‘specially yours Charles. She did good. And now I gotta logoff and go cook up dinner for D_L’s mom. My Mom gets thanks each year in my prayers. R.I.P.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, May 9, 2010 2:07:52pm |
re: #5 Ojoe
True. Unfortunately mine died about 10 years ago. I still miss her.
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_RememberTonyC Sun, May 9, 2010 2:08:32pm |
My mom became a widow when I was 3 and my sister was 7. She basically sacrificed her life to make sure ours were good. She is 83 years old and spunky as ever. G-d Bless Her!
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PhillyPretzel Sun, May 9, 2010 2:09:33pm |
re: #8 _RememberTonyC
Amen. Wish her a Happy Mother’s Day.
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_RememberTonyC Sun, May 9, 2010 2:09:35pm |
Time for the second half of Cavs/Celtics ….. later folks
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_RememberTonyC Sun, May 9, 2010 2:09:59pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 2:12:41pm |
Momma didn’t mean to make you cry…
If I’m not back again this time tomorrow, carry on.
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Ojoe Sun, May 9, 2010 2:13:39pm |
A photo of moms and babies from 1922.
Which mom would you pick for your mom?
I’d take the one on the far right in the bottom row.
BBL
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 2:15:15pm |
re: #13 Ojoe
Dang Ojoe! There’s some fat babies in that picture.
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 2:15:42pm |
Happy Birthday Mom I hope tommorrow I can make you extra proud of me by doing well enough on my final, final, final to graduate…
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PhillyPretzel Sun, May 9, 2010 2:16:31pm |
re: #13 Ojoe
hmm. I can’t pick one. They all look very good Moms.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 2:18:33pm |
re: #13 Ojoe
Are you older than I think? Or is your mother the baby there?
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Ojoe Sun, May 9, 2010 2:19:15pm |
re: #14 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Good. Fat Baby Good. One of ours was born early & until he was fat I was jealous of other people’s fat babies.
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Four More Tears Sun, May 9, 2010 2:19:33pm |
Just got back from taking mom out to see Iron Man 2.
Hey, who do you think got me into all this stuff?
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Vicious Babushka Sun, May 9, 2010 2:20:28pm |
My daughter gave birth to the fattest. baby. ever.
12 lbs. I do not know how she got that thing through her.
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Ojoe Sun, May 9, 2010 2:21:06pm |
re: #17 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
No, but she could have been, because my mom was born in 1922 as well. She lived until 2007.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 2:23:36pm |
re: #20 Alouette
My son was three weeks early, 9lbs 3oz.
He came out through the widow, not through the door.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 2:27:23pm |
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Vicious Babushka Sun, May 9, 2010 2:30:10pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 2:31:47pm |
If you’ve got a moment, please visit the previous thread and downding the troll that just popped up. It’s attacking SFZ and needs a beatdown.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, May 9, 2010 2:32:05pm |
I can say I am an aunt. Two nephews that are bigger than me.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 2:36:03pm |
re: #29 PhillyPretzel
That “rooster” person?
Yep the very same. It’s now gone and insulted Alouette.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 2:36:43pm |
re: #30 Dark_Falcon
The chicks’ll kick his ass.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 2:37:21pm |
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PhillyPretzel Sun, May 9, 2010 2:38:03pm |
re: #30 Dark_Falcon
I think I messed up on one rating but I know I got the others correct.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 2:39:28pm |
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reine.de.tout Sun, May 9, 2010 2:40:56pm |
re: #33 PhillyPretzel
I think I messed up on one rating but I know I got the others correct.
You can correct it.
If you upding in error, hit the “-” to cancel, and hit it again to downding.
Works in reverse also.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 2:42:36pm |
re: #33 PhillyPretzel
You can fix it. Go and re-ding.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, May 9, 2010 2:44:01pm |
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SteveC Sun, May 9, 2010 2:44:21pm |
When the child has a disability, moms are instinctively more protective and worry more. Their children’s lives may not be what they imagined or hoped for, but good moms adapt and hang in there.
Your Cardiac Kid loves you.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, May 9, 2010 2:46:27pm |
re: #40 SteveC
Moms always worry about their disabled kids. Come to think it they always worry.
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 2:47:54pm |
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reine.de.tout Sun, May 9, 2010 2:48:46pm |
re: #41 PhillyPretzel
Moms always worry about their disabled kids. Come to think it they always worry.
And they worry forever.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 2:49:45pm |
re: #40 SteveC
Your Cardiac Kid loves you.
That’s true. My sister had a disability growing up (though she’s gotten past it since), and my parents have always been more protective of her than of me. I’ve never minded since I was about 8 (when I first understood it), and I’ve always been protective of her myself when I could.
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SteveC Sun, May 9, 2010 2:50:11pm |
re: #43 jamesfirecat
It’ll move him that much closer to taking the entire bottom ten…
I checked him into the glass!
//Gimmie the 2 minutes, ref! I’ll take one for the team!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, May 9, 2010 2:50:24pm |
re: #13 Ojoe
Actually, one of those babies, to my eyes, appears to have failure to thrive.
Or has a genetic predisposition to being very thin. My second was born normal weight and then just dropped off the charts. Despite our best efforts, he remains there, at 13, although his height is fine.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, May 9, 2010 2:56:54pm |
re: #20 Alouette
It’s not the weight, it’s the size and shape of their head. I have a nephew I look at and say “owowowow”
Big and squarish.
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SteveC Sun, May 9, 2010 3:00:09pm |
True story -
I was 10 or 11 years old, feeling pretty nasty - but no fever, and couldn’t really put my finger on it. So I got up, felt a little better (but not much) after breakfast, and went to school anyway.
During first recess I got into a coughing fit and started coughing up blood. Blood coming out of my mouth and my nose and I couldn’t seem to stop. The teacher walked me up to the office where I scared the hell out of the secretary, who called the local volunteer rescue squad and mom.
Mom was 25 miles away at work. She ran to the car - a POS AMC Ambassador - and floored it. Jeff Gordon couldn’t have caught her that day. She got to the school in less than 20 minutes and skidded to a stop with two wheels up on the sidewalk! She left the car right where it was and rode with me in the ambulance.
(Long story short: Two weeks later I had my 2nd heart surgery.)
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 3:02:16pm |
Repost from this morning:
MOTHERS
Real Mothers don’t eat quiche;
They don’t have time to make it.Real Mothers know that their kitchen utensils
Are probably in the sandbox.Real Mothers often have sticky floors,
Filthy ovens and happy kids.Real Mothers know that dried play dough
Doesn’t come out of carpets.Real Mothers don’t want to know what
The vacuum just sucked up…….Real Mothers sometimes ask ‘Why me?’
And get their answer when a little
Voice says, ‘Because I love you best.’Real Mothers know that a child’s growth
Is not measured by height or years or grade…
It is marked by the progression of Mommy to Mom to Mother…..The Images of Mother
4 YEARS OF AGE - My Mommy can do anything!
8 YEARS OF AGE - My Mom knows a lot! A whole lot!
12 YEARS OF AGE - My Mother doesn’t know everything!
14 YEARS OF AGE - My Mother? She wouldn’t have a clue.
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16 YEARS OF AGE - Mother? She’s so five minutes ago.18 YEARS OF AGE - That old woman? She’s way out of date!
25 YEARS OF AGE - Well, she might know a little bit about it!
35 YEARS OF AGE - Before we decide, let’s get Mom’s opinion.
45 YEARS OF AGE - Wonder what Mom would have thought about it?
65 YEARS OF AGE - Wish I could talk it over with Mom.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure she carries, or the way she combs her hair
The beauty of a woman must be seen from in her eyes,
Because that is the doorway to her heart,
The place where love resides.
The beauty of a woman is not in a facial mole,
But true beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul.
It is the caring that she lovingly gives, the passion that she
Shows, and the beauty of a woman with passing years only grows!
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reine.de.tout Sun, May 9, 2010 3:05:57pm |
From a friend of mine - what it’s like to be a mom:
Before you were conceived, I wanted you. Before you were born, I loved you. When you were born, I saw your face and knew I was in love. Before you were a minute old, I knew I would die for you & would to this day.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 3:09:39pm |
re: #48 EmmmieG
Actually, one of those babies, to my eyes, appears to have failure to thrive.
Or has a genetic predisposition to being very thin. My second was born normal weight and then just dropped off the charts. Despite our best efforts, he remains there, at 13, although his height is fine.
Skinny isn’t so bad!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 3:14:34pm |
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PhillyPretzel Sun, May 9, 2010 3:19:10pm |
re: #58 SteveC
You lucky son of a gun. You have 7000 in Karma.
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Randall Gross Sun, May 9, 2010 3:21:25pm |
It was rough, but I got everything my wife wanted for mother’s day dinner back to the house fresh/warm and without a ticket. Three different appetizers — Salt and Pepper Calamari from PF Chang’s, Shrimp toast from Bo Ling’s, and Shrimp midori roll from Kyoto. I think I scared some people on the drive back however.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 3:21:57pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 3:22:25pm |
Got a question for the Moms here.
How do you win a game by 30, three days later lost a game by 30 and then two days later win a game by 10?
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 3:22:54pm |
Fun Mother’s day archaelogical fact—among Viking era graves, the most lavish men’s burials tend to be of young-to-middle-aged warriors, men who died in battle.
The most lavish women’s burials are of old women, because they were buried by their grown children.
They may have been the terror of the North Sea, but they loved their mothers!
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PhillyPretzel Sun, May 9, 2010 3:24:01pm |
re: #64 SanFranciscoZionist
Yes. The most vicious fighters love their moms.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 3:24:03pm |
re: #62 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Got a question for the Moms here.
How do you win a game by 30, three days later lose a game by 30 and then two days later win a game by 10?
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 3:24:16pm |
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 3:24:31pm |
re: #64 SanFranciscoZionist
Fun Mother’s day archaelogical fact—among Viking era graves, the most lavish men’s burials tend to be of young-to-middle-aged warriors, men who died in battle.
The most lavish women’s burials are of old women, because they were buried by their grown children.
They may have been the terror of the North Sea, but they loved their mothers!
His rivals used to say quite a bit
That as a monarch he was most unfit
But still in all they had to admit
That he loved his mother!
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SteveC Sun, May 9, 2010 3:24:49pm |
re: #59 PhillyPretzel
You lucky son of a gun. You have 7000 in Karma.
Patience, Grasshopper. Learning the ways of the LGF Warrior will serve you well in time. :)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 3:27:17pm |
The A’s had a perfect game today. 19th time in Major League history.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 3:28:20pm |
re: #72 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The A’s had a perfect game today. 19th time in Major League history.
Dallas Braden pitched only the third MLB perfect game in the past 10 years as the A’s romped past the Rays 4-0 on Sunday.
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Randall Gross Sun, May 9, 2010 3:29:09pm |
re: #72 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The A’s had a perfect game today. 19th time in Major League history.
Very cool.
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SteveC Sun, May 9, 2010 3:31:01pm |
re: #72 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The A’s had a perfect game today. 19th time in Major League history.
The Braves pitching staff is doing really well. Everything they throw ricochets off of a bat.
“And there’s a double! Much more of this and I’ll be having one myself.” - Skip Carey, R.I.P.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 3:31:21pm |
re: #72 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The A’s had a perfect game today. 19th time in Major League history.
Amazing! Thanks!
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 3:34:08pm |
re: #76 SteveC
The Braves pitching staff is doing really well. Everything they throw ricochets off of a bat.
“And there’s a double! Much more of this and I’ll be having one myself.” - Skip Carey, R.I.P.
That’s the end of the over and drinks!
Gin and Tonic!
No no, the players are having drinks!
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 3:35:59pm |
Police: Hudson woman stabs common-law husband for bed behavior
A Hudson woman was arrested early Tuesday, accused of stabbing her common-law husband because she was unhappy with his performance in the bedroom, an arrest report stated. Hudson Police officers were called around 1 a.m. Tuesday to the Ted Trout Drive home Michelle Thomas, 26, shared with the man.
The man told police Thomas became angry with him when she was not satisfied by a sexual encounter the two shared just before the incident, the report stated. He said she grabbed a pair of scissors and began slashing at him, according to the report. Officers noted the man had minor cuts to his chest, left thumb and left knee.
Thomas told officers the man was drunk and had grabbed her by the wrists, threw her on the bed and began choking her, according to the report. Officers saw no visible injuries on Thomas. The man said the only time he put his hands on her was during the sexual encounter, the report stated.
Thomas was arrested and charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, although the man told officers he didn’t want to press charges.
Thomas faces a second-degree felony charge, carrying a sentence up to 20 years in prison and up to a $10,000 fine.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 3:36:24pm |
re: #62 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Got a question for the Moms here.
How do you win a game by 30, three days later lost a game by 30 and then two days later win a game by 10?
great game. i gotta go, but even though the Cavs lost, i still enjoyed it. they won’t miss that many open shots again…good series.
one last happy mothers’ day to all…enjoy the troll roast…bbl
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Killgore Trout Sun, May 9, 2010 3:36:51pm |
Iran hangs woman, four other ‘enemies of God’
Not surprisingly, this has some people upset….
Iranian Embassy in London Attacked by Protesters, May 09 2010
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lostlakehiker Sun, May 9, 2010 3:38:01pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 3:38:51pm |
re: #79 NJDhockeyfan
Police: Hudson woman stabs common-law husband for bed behavior
If her last name hadn’t been given, I would have asked if Lorena Bobbit had a sister. :D
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 3:40:08pm |
re: #79 NJDhockeyfan
Police: Hudson woman stabs common-law husband for bed behavior
There is a reason that cops dread the domestic violence call.
Although I loved the one in Southland, where the cops answer a call because a woman has thrown a cat at her husband. I loved that episode in general. It’s the same one where they answer a call to a tattoo parlor because the tattoo artist has put ‘Dennis’ rather than ‘Denise’ on a guy’s back, and the customer calls 911.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 3:40:22pm |
re: #81 Killgore Trout
Iran hangs woman, four other ‘enemies of God’
Not surprisingly, this has some people upset…
Iranian Embassy in London Attacked by Protesters, May 09 2010[Video]
Sign on cranes used in Iranian hangings:
Warning: Religion of Peace at Work
ROPMA
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 3:41:44pm |
re: #84 SanFranciscoZionist
There is a reason that cops dread the domestic violence call.
Although I loved the one in Southland, where the cops answer a call because a woman has thrown a cat at her husband. I loved that episode in general. It’s the same one where they answer a call to a tattoo parlor because the tattoo artist has put ‘Dennis’ rather than ‘Denise’ on a guy’s back, and the customer calls 911.
That’s a great scene. Happily, Southland got renewed by TNT. It got ten new episodes that will start showing in January.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, May 9, 2010 3:42:34pm |
Religion of Peace. They think if they repeat it often enough people will believe it.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 3:42:59pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 3:44:18pm |
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PhillyPretzel Sun, May 9, 2010 3:44:33pm |
re: #88 NJDhockeyfan
I can picture it. ‘Cuse me while I inhale my Viagra.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 3:44:57pm |
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PhillyPretzel Sun, May 9, 2010 3:47:16pm |
oh well that one fell flat. I am not good with one liners.
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austin_blue Sun, May 9, 2010 3:47:59pm |
Dang, Scrooster’s gone.
((sniff))
I’ll miss the little guy. He was just so..so.. typical.
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SteveC Sun, May 9, 2010 3:48:58pm |
Massive traffic jam in Chicago -
A barge carrying Viagra sank, and all the drawbridges are now stuck open….!
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 3:49:02pm |
re: #95 austin_blue
Dang, Scrooster’s gone.
((sniff))
I’ll miss the little guy. He was just so..so.. typical.
Maybe if we start a new thread he’ll show up again….
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 3:51:21pm |
re: #97 SteveC
Massive traffic jam in Chicago -
A barge carrying Viagra sank, and all the drawbridges are now stuck open…!
I don’t need wooden stakes for my tomato plants anymore. I gave them viagra and they stood right up!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 3:53:07pm |
re: #99 NJDhockeyfan
I don’t need wooden stakes for my tomato plants anymore. I gave them viagra and they stood right up!
This thread has hardly begun…
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SteveC Sun, May 9, 2010 3:53:55pm |
Need to go, everyone - family Mother’s day dinner!
Best wishes to all the mothers and my LGF friends!
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 3:55:47pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 3:55:49pm |
re: #99 NJDhockeyfan
Does it bother you when you bite into a tomato and it squirts out in your mouth?
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Jadespring Sun, May 9, 2010 3:57:06pm |
Afternoon all.
Just got back from seeing Iron Man.
Fun movie to see in the theatre.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 3:57:58pm |
re: #105 Jadespring
Afternoon all.
Just got back from seeing Iron Man.
Fun movie to see in the theatre.
I waiting on “Irony Man; The Apathetic Hero”
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 3:58:10pm |
re: #104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Does it bother you when you bite into a tomato and it squirts out in your mouth?
No, it bothers me when it squirts on to my white shirt when I’m in town.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 4:01:40pm |
re: #95 austin_blue
Dang, Scrooster’s gone.
((sniff))
I’ll miss the little guy. He was just so..so.. typical.
THey’re like streetcars Austin. There’ll be another one along in a minute.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, May 9, 2010 4:02:29pm |
re: #109 SanFranciscoZionist
True. Maybe a little longer than a minute
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, May 9, 2010 4:02:40pm |
I can’t post for very long, but I have a terrible story to share. Sometimes, in oh so enlightened circles, the fundamental need for the existence of Israel and the central tenant of Zionism are completely dismissed, mocked and otherwise disparaged.
This is a story illustrates why Israel will always be needed as a state.
Yeshiva student murdered in Ukraine
Body reportedly found in 10 pieces; police suspect anti-Semitism.
A Chabad student was murdered two weeks ago in the Ukraine and his body was cut up into ten pieces, according to reports released to the media on Saturday night. Police were reportedly investigating whether the murder was an act of anti-Semitism.
Haredi news sources reported that the victim, Aryeh Leib Misinzov, was a 25-year-old student at the Lubavitcher Yeshiva in Kiev.
Police found pieces of Misinzov’s body in a suburb of the Ukrainian capital, sources said, adding that he was kidnapped and murdered by a gang member on Hitler’s birthday.
The gang leader was reportedly undergoing questioning by Kiev police.
On Sunday, haredi news sources reported that Misinzov himself was involved in organized crime.
According to Chabad sources, the Ukrainian chief rabbi, Rabbi Moshe Reuvein Asman, was in Israel at the time of the murder, and cut his trip short in order to arrange for the body’s release and burial.
It is at times like this that I would love to shake President Obama and remind him that the problems that Jewish people outside of America face very real and determined enemies, that Israel is, was and has always been the truest ally of America, and that oh yes, it actually is our homeland and no one else’s
As a Jew I have a very hard time with President Obama’s policies towards Israel. Political “realities” and ideologies always seem to replace moral and historical truths. But this has been true of every president since Truman.
People sometimes ask me how I can support president Obama given my desire to see Israel safe and secure. The answer I give is three fold.
1. Obama is better for America than anyone the GOP has to offer. As an American, I am not interested in living in a backwards so-con theocracy that strips my basic rights, halts scientific progress or abuses the underprivileged. However, seeing Obama as the much lesser of evils is hardly a ringing endorsement. He means well, but is a weak president who suffers from falsely believing that the world is much more reasonable than it is.
2. Israel is a major AGW loser. If Obama’s policies unfairly pressure and endanger Israel, GOP policies would guarantee its destruction.
3. Obama shows and has shown the capacity to learn from his errors. The GOP mantra is to never admit anything less than a personal revelation at Sinai booming out the perfect correctness of all their doctrines. There is hope that Obama can be reasoned with.
I just personally hope that he sees stories like the one above and understands what it is that the world at large is really like for the Jewish people.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 4:02:42pm |
re: #105 Jadespring
Hey, if you ever get a chance to see Don Cheadle in the Rat Pack movie as Sammy Davis, Jr.? Do it. They guy is an amazing actor.
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reine.de.tout Sun, May 9, 2010 4:03:30pm |
re: #95 austin_blue
Dang, Scrooster’s gone.
((sniff))
I’ll miss the little guy. He was just so..so.. typical.
Oh, no.
He’ll show up again at around 3 a.m. to post the most articulate and intelligent flounce evah …
/
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Jadespring Sun, May 9, 2010 4:03:58pm |
re: #112 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hey, if you ever get a chance to see Don Cheadle in the Rat Pack movie as Sammy Davis, Jr.? Do it. They guy is an amazing actor.
I will look that one up. I agree he’s a great actor.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 4:05:11pm |
re: #114 Jadespring
I will look that one up. I agree he’s a great actor.
Ray Liotta as Sinatra.
Joe Mantegna as Deano.
Flipping fantastic. HBO, 1998.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, May 9, 2010 4:06:34pm |
The Viagara fell into the spaghetti.
If it still won’t wind on the fork in four hours I’ll have to call my doctor.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 4:07:22pm |
Al-Qaeda threatens to kidnap Prince Harry
LONDON: Supporters of Osama Bin Laden’s terrorist organization Al Qaeda have threatened to kidnap Prince Harry if he flies an Apache attack helicopter in Afghanistan.The members of the terrorist group have posted several direct warnings on a known Al Qaeda Arabic website used by followers in Britain, reports a newspaper.
Prince Harry, 25, was recently presented with his pilot’s “wings” by his father Prince Charles, and has been selected for Apache training.
But Al Qaeda supporters are not happy with his military ambitions.
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Bubblehead II Sun, May 9, 2010 4:08:33pm |
Evening all. Just a drive by to wish all of those who are Mothers a good day and my condolences for having to put up with the little monster (like me) who wonder what really happens when you add vinegar to baking soda in a sealed container (in the kitchen) and to contribute in my small part to the demise of a Annafrance wanna be.
Night.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 4:10:49pm |
re: #117 NJDhockeyfan
The kid seems to really enjoy a military career, and it’s a shame that his family’s position means that this kind of thing keeps coming up.
OTOH, once you’ve appeared in public in a Nazi ‘uniform’, my sympathies for you tend to stay low.
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Macha Sun, May 9, 2010 4:10:55pm |
Happy Mother’s Day Lizardettes. Wishing you all a fun filled evening.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, May 9, 2010 4:11:56pm |
re: #120 Spare O’Lake
He could use a good shaking.
Yes he could. Now give me an alternative that isn’t vastly worse and I will vote for them.
Remember. GOP policies on AGW guarantee the destruction of Israel.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 4:12:45pm |
re: #117 NJDhockeyfan
They can try fighting with British Apaches, but they’ll just lose. They try to bust into a British firebase, they’ll lose worse. Let them come. The UK’s forces are strong and we will help if need be. The Islamist scum haven’t got a chance. This is a shriek in retreat be an enemy whom we have pounded.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 4:14:41pm |
re: #111 ludwigvanquixote
It is at times like this that I would love to shake President Obama and remind him that the problems that Jewish people outside of America face very real and determined enemies, that Israel is, was and has always been the truest ally of America, and that oh yes, it actually is our homeland and no one else’s
As a Jew I have a very hard time with President Obama’s policies towards Israel. Political “realities” and ideologies always seem to replace moral and historical truths. But this has been true of every president since Truman.
Your post explains why Obama has lost a large amount of Jewish supporters recently.
Poll: Obama has Lost Almost Half of his US Jewish Support
United States President Barack Obama has lost nearly half of his support among American Jews, a poll by the McLaughlin Group has shown.
The US Jews polled were asked whether they would: (a) vote to re-elect Obama, or (b) consider voting for someone else. 42% said they would vote for Obama and 46%, a plurality, preferred the second answer. 12% said they did not know or refused to answer.
In the Presidential elections of 2008, 78% of Jewish voters, or close to 8 out of 10, chose Obama. The McLaughlin poll held nearly 18 months later, in April 2010, appears to show that support down to around 4 out of 10.
The poll showed that key voter segments including Orthodox/Hassidic voters, Conservative voters, voters who have friends and family in Israel and those who have been to Israel, are all more likely to consider voting for someone other than Obama.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, May 9, 2010 4:15:35pm |
re: #111 ludwigvanquixote
PIMF I apologize, but the typos in the first attempt were too much.
I can’t post for very long, but I have a terrible story to share. Sometimes, in oh so enlightened circles, the fundamental need for the existence of Israel and the central tenant of Zionism are completely dismissed, mocked and otherwise disparaged.
This is a story illustrates why Israel will always be needed as a state.
[Link: www.jpost.com…]
Yeshiva student murdered in Ukraine
Body reportedly found in 10 pieces; police suspect anti-Semitism.
A Chabad student was murdered two weeks ago in the Ukraine and his body was cut up into ten pieces, according to reports released to the media on Saturday night. Police were reportedly investigating whether the murder was an act of anti-Semitism.
Haredi news sources reported that the victim, Aryeh Leib Misinzov, was a 25-year-old student at the Lubavitcher Yeshiva in Kiev.
Police found pieces of Misinzov’s body in a suburb of the Ukrainian capital, sources said, adding that he was kidnapped and murdered by a gang member on Hitler’s birthday.
The gang leader was reportedly undergoing questioning by Kiev police.
On Sunday, haredi news sources reported that Misinzov himself was involved in organized crime.
According to Chabad sources, the Ukrainian chief rabbi, Rabbi Moshe Reuvein Asman, was in Israel at the time of the murder, and cut his trip short in order to arrange for the body’s release and burial.
It is at times like this that I would love to shake President Obama and remind him that the problems that Jewish people outside of America face are very real and they have determined enemies, that Israel is, was and has always been the truest ally of America, and that oh yes, it actually is our homeland and no one else’s
As a Jew, I have a very hard time with President Obama’s policies towards Israel. Political “realities” and ideologies always seem to replace moral and historical truths. But this has been true of every president since Truman.
People sometimes ask me how I can support president Obama given my desire to see Israel safe and secure. The answer I give is three fold.
1. Obama is better for America than anyone the GOP has to offer. As an American, I am not interested in living in a backwards so-con theocracy that strips my basic rights, halts scientific progress or abuses the underprivileged. However, seeing Obama as the much lesser of evils is hardly a ringing endorsement. He means well, but is a weak president who suffers from falsely believing that the world is much more reasonable than it actually is.
2. Israel is a major AGW loser. If Obama’s policies unfairly pressure and endanger Israel, GOP policies would guarantee its destruction.
3. Obama shows and has shown the capacity to learn from his errors. The GOP mantra is to never admit anything less than a personal revelation at Sinai booming out the perfect correctness of all their doctrines. There is hope that Obama can be reasoned with.
I just personally hope that he sees stories like the one above and understands what it is that the world at large is really like for the Jewish people.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 4:15:57pm |
re: #121 SanFranciscoZionist
The kid seems to really enjoy a military career, and it’s a shame that his family’s position means that this kind of thing keeps coming up.
OTOH, once you’ve appeared in public in a Nazi ‘uniform’, my sympathies for you tend to stay low.
He was a kid when he did that. I’m gonna give him a pass just this once.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 4:17:00pm |
re: #111 ludwigvanquixote
I can’t post for very long, but I have a terrible story to share. Sometimes, in oh so enlightened circles, the fundamental need for the existence of Israel and the central tenant of Zionism are completely dismissed, mocked and otherwise disparaged.
This is a story illustrates why Israel will always be needed as a state.
[Link: www.jpost.com…]
Yeshiva student murdered in Ukraine
Body reportedly found in 10 pieces; police suspect anti-Semitism.
It is at times like this that I would love to shake President Obama and remind him that the problems that Jewish people outside of America face very real and determined enemies, that Israel is, was and has always been the truest ally of America, and that oh yes, it actually is our homeland and no one else’s
As a Jew I have a very hard time with President Obama’s policies towards Israel. Political “realities” and ideologies always seem to replace moral and historical truths. But this has been true of every president since Truman.
People sometimes ask me how I can support president Obama given my desire to see Israel safe and secure. The answer I give is three fold.
1. Obama is better for America than anyone the GOP has to offer. As an American, I am not interested in living in a backwards so-con theocracy that strips my basic rights, halts scientific progress or abuses the underprivileged. However, seeing Obama as the much lesser of evils is hardly a ringing endorsement. He means well, but is a weak president who suffers from falsely believing that the world is much more reasonable than it is.
2. Israel is a major AGW loser. If Obama’s policies unfairly pressure and endanger Israel, GOP policies would guarantee its destruction.
3. Obama shows and has shown the capacity to learn from his errors. The GOP mantra is to never admit anything less than a personal revelation at Sinai booming out the perfect correctness of all their doctrines. There is hope that Obama can be reasoned with.
I just personally hope that he sees stories like the one above and understands what it is that the world at large is really like for the Jewish people.
Sadly, the Ukraine has often seen horrible Anti-Semitism. Many Ukrainians collaborated with the SS is rounding up and murdering Jews. Though the czarist Okhra and the SS are gone, the antisemitic poison they injected into the Ukraine’s bloodstream still does great evil at times.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 4:19:22pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 4:20:30pm |
re: #121 SanFranciscoZionist
The kid seems to really enjoy a military career, and it’s a shame that his family’s position means that this kind of thing keeps coming up.
OTOH, once you’ve appeared in public in a Nazi ‘uniform’, my sympathies for you tend to stay low.
True, but he’s doing much better now. I hope Prince Harry is allowed to go to Afghanistan. By valiant service, he is proving that he’s a true man and a brat no longer.
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compound idaho Sun, May 9, 2010 4:21:40pm |
re: #116 Spare O’Lake
The Viagara fell into the spaghetti.
If it still won’t wind on the fork in four hours I’ll have to call my doctor.
My 16 year old son looked at me with a worried expression when the commercial gave the warning about an erection lasting more that 4 hours. It OK buddy. You are 16. No need to worry.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, May 9, 2010 4:23:28pm |
re: #125 NJDhockeyfan
Yes, but that is a very skewed poll in that it asked if they would consider voting for someone else. It did not suggest who.
Jews as a whole are very dedicated to notions like social justice, feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, fair courts for all, equal protections under the law, and resistance to “perfection” by folks like Pat Robertson. We are traditionally really anti slave and anti confederate. We are deeply pro education and pro science as a group. We tend to be pro environment as well.
The only issue that the GOP has is Obama’s less than warm stance towards Israel. The fact that it is not particularly more warm than the GOP stance under people like Reagan, Bush Sr. and Baker is not lost on the educated Jewish voter.
And most of us are pretty well educated.
So the issue is, who that second person would be…
I can guarantee that Palin (in particular, since the culture has a strong aversion to morons) Huckabee, Jindal, etc.. would not carry much of the Jewish vote.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, May 9, 2010 4:24:04pm |
re: #128 Dark_Falcon
Sadly, the Ukraine has often seen horrible Anti-Semitism. Many Ukrainians collaborated with the SS is rounding up and murdering Jews. Though the czarist Okhra and the SS are gone, the antisemitic poison they injected into the Ukraine’s bloodstream still does great evil at times.
It goes back much longer and more virulently than the SS. It is a long history I would rather not get into.
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austin_blue Sun, May 9, 2010 4:24:24pm |
re: #111 ludwigvanquixote
((snip))
I just personally hope that he sees stories like the one above and understands what it is that the world at large is really like for the Jewish people.
Horrible story. Great post.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 4:24:27pm |
A Congressional Shout Out to Hemp History Week
Yesterday, to honor Hemp History Week (who knew?), Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) used the occasion to promote his proposal to legalize the domestic production of industrial hemp, a genetic but non-psychoactive relative of marijuana. Paul’s sprawling speech touched on more topics surrounding the plant than you knew existed.
…
Ron Paul!
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 4:25:10pm |
re: #136 ludwigvanquixote
Yes, but that is a very skewed poll in that it asked if they would consider voting for someone else. It did not suggest who.
Jews as a whole are very dedicated to notions like social justice, feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, fair courts for all, equal protections under the law, and resistance to “perfection” by folks like Pat Robertson. We are traditionally really anti slave and anti confederate. We are deeply pro education and pro science as a group. We tend to be pro environment as well.
The only issue that the GOP has is Obama’s less than warm stance towards Israel. The fact that it is not particularly more warm than the GOP stance under people like Reagan, Bush Sr. and Baker is not lost on the educated Jewish voter.
And most of us are pretty well educated.
So the issue is, who that second person would be…
I can guarantee that Palin (in particular, since the culture has a strong aversion to morons) Huckabee, Jindal, etc.. would not carry much of the Jewish vote.
Ahh good old Bobby Jindal what is he doing these days? I haven’t heard anything from him since he tried to give rebuttal to Obama a year or so ago….
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, May 9, 2010 4:25:19pm |
re: #138 austin_blue
((snip))
I just personally hope that he sees stories like the one above and understands what it is that the world at large is really like for the Jewish people.
Horrible story. Great post.
Thank you.
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 4:26:15pm |
re: #139 NJDhockeyfan
A Congressional Shout Out to Hemp History Week
Ron Paul!
Ron Paul, less government and more mary jane what’s not to love? Except for the fact that he’s Ron Paul of course….
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, May 9, 2010 4:27:18pm |
re: #140 jamesfirecat
Ahh good old Bobby Jindal what is he doing these days? I haven’t heard anything from him since he tried to give rebuttal to Obama a year or so ago…
Yeah, the GOP is really looking for a torch bearer. They have yet to find one.
I am very certain that with the purges of the GOP going on, they will pick someone profoundly cave dwelling.
That will usher in Obama in a landslide for a second term.
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Jadespring Sun, May 9, 2010 4:27:56pm |
So it’s amazing how a really sucky cold and snowy weather day that led to some wistful surfing of tropical (and warmer) locales has turned into what may be a life direction change. Yesterday I posted about looking at property in various Carribean countries and making a few discoveries about what it would take to actually make a move south. Mainly that it’s entirely feasible and not as crazy a dream idea as I thought it would be.
Today after several hours of surfing looking at nuts and bolts and a long conversation with the hubby, we’re giving it some serious thought. We figure that with some careful planning and some hard work we could feasibly think about doing it in four to five years! We also decided that we’re serious enough about the idea that we’re tentatively planning a winter holiday next year in Costa Rica to check things out and get an idea about the reality of it all.
I haven’t been this excited about the future in a heck of long time. I never thought I’d be able to even consider something like this!
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 4:28:47pm |
re: #142 jamesfirecat
Ron Paul, less government and more mary jane what’s not to love? Except for the fact that he’s Ron Paul of course…
He scares me.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, May 9, 2010 4:29:25pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 4:29:57pm |
re: #137 ludwigvanquixote
It goes back much longer and more virulently than the SS. It is a long history I would rather not get into.
Understood, and accepted.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, May 9, 2010 4:30:50pm |
re: #144 Jadespring
So it’s amazing how a really sucky cold and snowy weather day that led to some wistful surfing of tropical (and warmer) locales has turned into what may be a life direction change. Yesterday I posted about looking at property in various Carribean countries and making a few discoveries about what it would take to actually make a move south. Mainly that it’s entirely feasible and not as crazy a dream idea as I thought it would be.
Today after several hours of surfing looking at nuts and bolts and a long conversation with the hubby, we’re giving it some serious thought. We figure that with some careful planning and some hard work we could feasibly think about doing it in four to five years! We also decided that we’re serious enough about the idea that we’re tentatively planning a winter holiday next year in Costa Rica to check things out and get an idea about the reality of it all.
I haven’t been this excited about the future in a heck of long time. I never thought I’d be able to even consider something like this!
I am deeply happy for your optimism and the liberating feeling that gives you.
Scientifically, it is a very bad idea to move to that region. In 20-30 years it will not be such a nice place to live.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 4:30:55pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 4:31:24pm |
re: #148 ludwigvanquixote
I am deeply happy for your optimism and the liberating feeling that gives you.
Scientifically, it is a very bad idea to move to that region. In 20-30 years it will not be such a nice place to live.
How so?
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 4:32:16pm |
Illegal immigrant’s 145G ‘deport gift’
An illegal immigrant with a long rap sheet got a $145,000 parting gift from New York City taxpayers before he was deported, after city lawyers decided his civil rights had been violated when he was held too long on Rikers Island.
Federal rules allow local law enforcement to detain suspected illegal immigrants for 48 hours after their criminal cases are resolved, to give Immigration and Customs Enforcement a chance to pick them up and move them to federal facilities.
Former Brooklyn resident Cecil Harvey, 55 — backed by an immigration-rights advocacy group — argued that his rights were violated when he spent more than a month in a Rikers holding pen before being transferred to ICE.
Harvey was shipped to his native Barbados in October 2007; the city settled his civil suit late last year.
The landmark settlement has prompted the Correction Department to dump scores of illegal immigrants on the streets, since federal officials often fail to pick them up within the required two-day window.
Federal immigration agents have office space on Rikers Island, and the city allows them to interview roughly 4,000 inmates each year. They put a hold, or “detainer,” on 3,200 of those inmates who they discover are illegals.
But ICE often fails to transfer those detainees within the required 48 hours of their criminal cases being resolved, multiple jail sources said.
“We just release them now,” one high-ranking jail supervisor said. “It’s ICE’s problem to go find these guys.”
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Jadespring Sun, May 9, 2010 4:33:39pm |
re: #148 ludwigvanquixote
I am deeply happy for your optimism and the liberating feeling that gives you.
Scientifically, it is a very bad idea to move to that region. In 20-30 years it will not be such a nice place to live.
That is actually a concern that’s in the back of my mind. Do you have any info or links to general predictions of what may happen to areas in that region? Where would I look to find out about this sort of thing?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, May 9, 2010 4:34:07pm |
re: #150 Dark_Falcon
How so?
Flooding, drought, famine, massive heat spells in summer. All that AGW stuff.
Exactly which will be the worst depends on where you are talking.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 4:35:13pm |
re: #151 NJDhockeyfan
And here we see the reasons for Arizona’s immigration law. The Feds need to get themselves together. This sort of catch and release is a very bad thing.
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austin_blue Sun, May 9, 2010 4:39:25pm |
re: #144 Jadespring
I haven’t been this excited about the future in a heck of long time. I never thought I’d be able to even consider something like this!
Jade:
Just be sure to talk to folks who moved there permanently. There are always downsides with living in “paradise”, and you need to go into it eyes wide open.
Not trying to piss on your cornflakes, here, but I’ve had some friends who decided to go Ex-Pat (various versions of Paradise) who were back in the States three years later mumbling “Oops, that kinda sucked.”
In any event, great good luck!
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austin_blue Sun, May 9, 2010 4:41:06pm |
re: #153 ludwigvanquixote
Flooding, drought, famine, massive heat spells in summer. All that AGW stuff.
Exactly which will be the worst depends on where you are talking.
Water. Whikey’s for drinkin’, water’s for fightin’, as we say in Texas.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 4:41:48pm |
Senior Citizens Told They Can’T Pray Before Meals
PORT WENTWORTH, Ga. (AP) To pray or not to pray. That’s the dillemma that has senior citizens upset in the small Georgia town of Port Wentworth near Savannah.
The organization that provides meals at a senior citizens center has told the elderly citizens who visit the center it would violate federal rules for them to pray outloud before meals. Instead they have been asked to observe a moment of silence.
The meals are partially paid for with federal funds.
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Killgore Trout Sun, May 9, 2010 4:42:44pm |
re: #144 Jadespring
Good luck. I’m so jealous.
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Interesting Times Sun, May 9, 2010 4:43:02pm |
re: #153 ludwigvanquixote
By how much do carbon emissions need to decrease (in, say, the next 10 years) in order to avoid the irreversible “tipping points” you’ve spoken of before?
Apologies if that question is too simplistic…
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brookly red Sun, May 9, 2010 4:44:18pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 4:44:51pm |
re: #157 NJDhockeyfan
That’s horseshit. I can see the rules meaning that their cannot be an organized group prayer (though I don’t agree with that interpretation), but that would not prohibit all spoken prayers).
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 4:45:42pm |
re: #160 brookly red
I am thinking that this may end up in court…
But the seniors will get no help from the ACLU.
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brookly red Sun, May 9, 2010 4:46:11pm |
re: #161 Dark_Falcon
That’s horseshit. I can see the rules meaning that their cannot be an organized group prayer (though I don’t agree with that interpretation), but that would not prohibit all spoken prayers).
I am thinking that their right to practice is being infringed upon…
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Killgore Trout Sun, May 9, 2010 4:46:43pm |
re: #144 Jadespring
…and don’t let all the “Gloomy Gus” types here get to you. It sounds fantastic and I’ve known plenty of expats who live very happily. If I were a little younger and a little richer I’d do it too.
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 4:46:55pm |
re: #162 Dark_Falcon
But the seniors will get no help from the ACLU.
The conservatives on this site seem to say that a lot. But they ACLU defended the kids who wore the “Islam is of the devil” shirts and they’re defending the kids who wore the American Flag get up… maybe we should stop saying “the ACLU won’t defend this” until we actually see them fail to defend something…
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Killgore Trout Sun, May 9, 2010 4:48:09pm |
re: #161 Dark_Falcon
This quote is hilarious…
The mayor of Port Wentworth, Glenn “Pig” Jones. said he’s “outraged” that people would be told they can’t pray before meals.
lol
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 4:49:02pm |
re: #132 compound idaho
My 16 year old son looked at me with a worried expression when the commercial gave the warning about an erection lasting more that 4 hours. It OK buddy. You are 16. No need to worry.
HOWL!
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, May 9, 2010 4:49:42pm |
re: #152 Jadespring
That is actually a concern that’s in the back of my mind. Do you have any info or links to general predictions of what may happen to areas in that region? Where would I look to find out about this sort of thing?
Yes, tons.
I think the most effective place to start is this page from Princeton Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Lab
These are a series of visualizations of world wide effects of AGW.
In particular watch this:
As a supplement, if you wish to get technical, here are two works that focus on Latin America in specific.
Tropical drying trends in global warming models and observations
Modeling biodiversity loss by global warming on Pantepui, northern South America: projected upward migration and potential habitat loss
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 4:49:46pm |
re: #165 jamesfirecat
The conservatives on this site seem to say that a lot. But they ACLU defended the kids who wore the “Islam is of the devil” shirts and they’re defending the kids who wore the American Flag get up… maybe we should stop saying “the ACLU won’t defend this” until we actually see them fail to defend something…
They reached out to help a pedophile who raped & murdered a child. I have nothing good to say about the ACLU.
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brookly red Sun, May 9, 2010 4:50:09pm |
re: #165 jamesfirecat
The conservatives on this site seem to say that a lot. But they ACLU defended the kids who wore the “Islam is of the devil” shirts and they’re defending the kids who wore the American Flag get up… maybe we should stop saying “the ACLU won’t defend this” until we actually see them fail to defend something…
fair nuff… I would think there would be no shortage of groups ready to take this up.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, May 9, 2010 4:50:15pm |
re: #156 austin_blue
Water. Whikey’s for drinkin’, water’s for fightin’, as we say in Texas.
Watch this from Princeton:
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Jadespring Sun, May 9, 2010 4:50:18pm |
re: #155 austin_blue
Jade:
Just be sure to talk to folks who moved there permanently. There are always downsides with living in “paradise”, and you need to go into it eyes wide open.
Not trying to piss on your cornflakes, here, but I’ve had some friends who decided to go Ex-Pat (various versions of Paradise) who were back in the States three years later mumbling “Oops, that kinda sucked.”
In any event, great good luck!
Oh I totally agree. I’ve already searched out the ‘real deal’ sort of info and not just the brochure come to paradise and we’ll sell you a beautiful house by the beach marketing crap. That’s not me anyways. There’s actually quite a bit of info out there if you search from ex-pats who left POV as well as the reality of what it’s like to live in these places from an ex-pat POV.
Chances are we’d do some testing out before making a permanent move or decision. Like going and spending the winter months there for a couple of years prior and not like a tourist holiday. I’ve discovered for instance that there are several institutes that offer internships in permaculture and eco-building which is something I’m very interested in. I may actually be able to spend a couple of months in the country and do one of these sorts of programs as early as next winter if a few things pan out.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 4:51:04pm |
re: #136 ludwigvanquixote
Yes, but that is a very skewed poll in that it asked if they would consider voting for someone else. It did not suggest who.
Jews as a whole are very dedicated to notions like social justice, feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, fair courts for all, equal protections under the law, and resistance to “perfection” by folks like Pat Robertson. We are traditionally really anti slave and anti confederate. We are deeply pro education and pro science as a group. We tend to be pro environment as well.
The only issue that the GOP has is Obama’s less than warm stance towards Israel. The fact that it is not particularly more warm than the GOP stance under people like Reagan, Bush Sr. and Baker is not lost on the educated Jewish voter.
And most of us are pretty well educated.
So the issue is, who that second person would be…
I can guarantee that Palin (in particular, since the culture has a strong aversion to morons) Huckabee, Jindal, etc.. would not carry much of the Jewish vote.
There’s highly unlikely to be a mass migration of the Jewish vote GOPward in 2012, let’s just put it like that.
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Racer X Sun, May 9, 2010 4:51:35pm |
re: #169 NJDhockeyfan
They reached out to help a pedophile who raped & murdered a child. I have nothing good to say about the ACLU.
Sadistic monsters are people too.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 4:52:41pm |
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lostlakehiker Sun, May 9, 2010 4:52:45pm |
re: #111 ludwigvanquixote
who suffers from falsely believing that the world is much more reasonable than it is.
Comes of being in an academic environment for so much of his life. Nobody ever brought a gun to a faculty meeting.
(Well, almost.) No fury like a biology professor scorned
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 4:53:09pm |
No fucking way….this is pure insanity…
Group Backs Ritual ‘Nick’ as Female Circumcision Option
In a controversial change to a longstanding policy concerning the practice of female circumcision in some African and Asian cultures, the American Academy of Pediatrics is suggesting that American doctors be given permission to perform a ceremonial pinprick or “nick” on girls from these cultures if it would keep their families from sending them overseas for the full circumcision.
The academy’s committee on bioethics, in a policy statement last week, said some pediatricians had suggested that current federal law, which “makes criminal any nonmedical procedure performed on the genitals” of a girl in the United States, has had the unintended consequence of driving some families to take their daughters to other countries to undergo mutilation.
“It might be more effective if federal and state laws enabled pediatricians to reach out to families by offering a ritual nick as a possible compromise to avoid greater harm,” the group said.
But some opponents of female genital mutilation, or F.G.M., denounced the statement.
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brookly red Sun, May 9, 2010 4:53:24pm |
so if grandma refuses and prays anyway what are they gonna do starve her? taze her? I don’t think the rule is enforceable anyhow, but hey these are strange times.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, May 9, 2010 4:53:57pm |
re: #173 SanFranciscoZionist
There’s highly unlikely to be a mass migration of the Jewish vote GOPward in 2012, let’s just put it like that.
At the rate Obama has been veering to the right he may have to run as a Republican.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 4:54:06pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 4:54:08pm |
re: #154 Dark_Falcon
And here we see the reasons for Arizona’s immigration law. The Feds need to get themselves together. This sort of catch and release is a very bad thing.
I’d argue, however, that Arizona’s immigration law wouldn’t change the basic situation, here. If AZ is willing to keep people in their jails indefinitely until ICE comes to get them, more power to them, however it will be just as expensive and space-eating for them as it is in NY.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 4:55:15pm |
re: #171 ludwigvanquixote
Watch this from Princeton:
[Link: www.gfdl.noaa.gov…]
Your fanclub is watching Ludwig. And flinging insults at both of us.
[waves at the Stalkers]
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Jadespring Sun, May 9, 2010 4:55:17pm |
re: #168 ludwigvanquixote
Thanks. I’ll take a look.
I’m of different minds on this sort of thing. I know there are going to be changes regardless of where one lives. I already have those changes in mind with the way I live here in terms of adaptation. One of the reasons I find that region appealing is some of the work that’s being done there both at the private level as well as the state level to some extent around issues of adaptation. It’s a recognized problem and something I’m interested in working on regardless of where I end up living.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 4:55:31pm |
re: #157 NJDhockeyfan
There’s no reason why they can’t pray before meals. What they probably can’t do is have the whole group led in prayer as an official part of the function.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, May 9, 2010 4:55:43pm |
They are telling little old ladies they can’t pray? Good luck.
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Sun, May 9, 2010 4:55:46pm |
re: #160 brookly red
I am thinking that this may end up in court…
Probably, but they will lose, that is just how it is now. If the Feds are helping to pay for the meals which they are then someone cannot lead a communal “Christian” pray before the meals. If you want to say your own pray out loud from out of your own head they can’t stop you, or if if you want to pray silently then obviously they won’t even know to object if they wanted to right?
It is the exact same reason prayers before school lunches were done away with, because a staff member or student would get up and lead all the rest through a set “Christian” prayer. Even the Muslims, the sikhs, the Jews, and the atheists, everyone had to stand and bow their heads.
They certainly can’t stop you from praying on your own, (which by the way is how Jesus said to do it in order to avoid being a “pious hypocrite”) but they sure can stop you from being lead in a ‘common prayer’ while at a venue being supported by the government.
I agree with the reasoning, I have no desire to live in a theocracy…
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, May 9, 2010 4:55:53pm |
re: #173 SanFranciscoZionist
There’s highly unlikely to be a mass migration of the Jewish vote GOPward in 2012, let’s just put it like that.
To say the least.
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Nimed Sun, May 9, 2010 4:55:59pm |
re: #180 NJDhockeyfan
Not in my book. They are monsters.
That we don’t take away the rights of those we loathe and despise, is something to be proud of.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 4:56:01pm |
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jaunte Sun, May 9, 2010 4:56:03pm |
re: #178 brookly red
Sounds like the meal provider is being a little over-zealous about protecting their federal funding.
accessnorthga.com
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 4:56:41pm |
re: #181 SanFranciscoZionist
I’d argue, however, that Arizona’s immigration law wouldn’t change the basic situation, here. If AZ is willing to keep people in their jails indefinitely until ICE comes to get them, more power to them, however it will be just as expensive and space-eating for them as it is in NY.
That last is not entirely true. Joe Arpaio’s tent city is far cheaper to operate than Riker’s Island. However, it would not be possible in New York, as the winters are too cold.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, May 9, 2010 4:57:11pm |
re: #183 Jadespring
Thanks. I’ll take a look.
I’m of different minds on this sort of thing. I know there are going to be changes regardless of where one lives. I already have those changes in mind with the way I live here in terms of adaptation. One of the reasons I find that region appealing is some of the work that’s being done there both at the private level as well as the state level to some extent around issues of adaptation. It’s a recognized problem and something I’m interested in working on regardless of where I end up living.
I understand, however, you are talking about moving to a region where the changes will be more pronounced sooner.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 4:57:34pm |
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, May 9, 2010 4:58:42pm |
re: #176 lostlakehiker
Comes of being in an academic environment for so much of his life. Nobody ever brought a gun to a faculty meeting.
(Well, almost.) No fury like a biology professor scorned
Ahh yes…. How to deal with a Climate denier…
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 4:59:45pm |
re: #177 NJDhockeyfan
No fucking way…this is pure insanity…
Equality Now is speaking out against it.
I am jumping in with this before we start to hear any BS about feminist groups being OK with this. The American Pediatric Association is on their own.
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brookly red Sun, May 9, 2010 5:00:10pm |
re: #186 ausador
Probably, but they will lose, that is just how it is now. If the Feds are helping to pay for the meals which they are then someone cannot lead a communal “Christian” pray before the meals. If you want to say your own pray out loud from out of your own head they can’t stop you, or if if you want to pray silently then obviously they won’t even know to object if they wanted to right?
It is the exact same reason prayers before school lunches were done away with, because a staff member or student would get up and lead all the rest through a set “Christian” prayer. Even the Muslims, the sikhs, the Jews, and the atheists, everyone had to stand and bow their heads.
They certainly can’t stop you from praying on your own, (which by the way is how Jesus said to do it in order to avoid being a “pious hypocrite”) but they sure can stop you from being lead in a ‘common prayer’ while at a venue being supported by the government.
I agree with the reasoning, I have no desire to live in a theocracy…
perhaps, the article did not mention if the prayer was organized or not…
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 5:00:22pm |
re: #188 Nimed
That we don’t take away the rights of those we loathe and despise, is something to be proud of.
They didn’t have to go out of their way to provide free legal services for that scum. He could have gotten his own lawyer.
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 5:00:29pm |
re: #193 Dark_Falcon
The ACLU is not a friend of religion, IMO.
I think your opinion might be wrong Dark. I men they sided with those kids who wore the “Islam is of the devil” T-shirts for religious reasons, or does that not count because protecting one religion while insulting another makes the entire thing a wash?
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 5:01:10pm |
re: #195 SanFranciscoZionist
Equality Now is speaking out against it.
I am jumping in with this before we start to hear any BS about feminist groups being OK with this. The American Pediatric Association is on their own.
That’s great news. Is NOW on board as well?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 5:01:14pm |
re: #177 NJDhockeyfan
No fucking way…this is pure insanity…
The Academy is taking the wrong position. The law already allows doctors to report parents who they believe will mutilate their children. Doctors should elect this option instead. Those who will take their children to a foreign country to be brutalized should be detained, their children taken from them, then deported.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, May 9, 2010 5:01:16pm |
re: #195 SanFranciscoZionist
Equality Now is speaking out against it.
I am jumping in with this before we start to hear any BS about feminist groups being OK with this. The American Pediatric Association is on their own.
And a big *smack* to anybody who compares this to “male circumcision”
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brookly red Sun, May 9, 2010 5:01:24pm |
re: #191 Dark_Falcon
That last is not entirely true. Joe Arpaio’s tent city is far cheaper to operate than Riker’s Island. However, it would not be possible in New York, as the winters are too cold.
/so we can out source…
to Arizona.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, May 9, 2010 5:01:34pm |
re: #186 ausador
It doesn’t say if they wanted to pray out loud as a group, or individually.
For the record, I would pray in silence, in a non-religious public setting like that, but that’s my personal preference.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 5:01:55pm |
re: #193 Dark_Falcon
The ACLU is not a friend of religion, IMO.
I have never seen that in their work. What cases would you say they’ve shown a bias against religion on?
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Jadespring Sun, May 9, 2010 5:03:09pm |
re: #192 LudwigVanQuixote
I understand, however, you are talking about moving to a region where the changes will be more pronounced sooner.
Yes I know. And there’s part of me who would rather be working on those problems and try to be part of working on solutions then just sitting around and watching them happen from a far.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, May 9, 2010 5:03:10pm |
I just planted my tomatoes, and there is a frost warning tonight.
I went out and covered up my babies with plastic bags.
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allegro Sun, May 9, 2010 5:03:19pm |
re: #190 jaunte
Federal funding or not, I think this is an excellent policy. Not long ago I was at a business meeting and at the luncheon we were all ordered to stand up and hold hands for a prayer. Ohhhkay. I figured it would be a thanks for this food ditty, not a big deal but nope. It was a long-winded come to Jesus, accept Jesus now or face an eternity of hell, on and on. The lady to my left was Jewish, the lady to my right was east Indian. I’m surprised none of us had broken bones in our hands the way our rage was making us squeeze.
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Decatur Deb Sun, May 9, 2010 5:05:02pm |
re: #206 Alouette
…snip
I went out and covered up my babies with plastic bags.
Can’t wait to see how that’s quoted on the blogs.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 5:05:09pm |
re: #199 NJDhockeyfan
That’s great news. Is NOW on board as well?
They have a policy on FGM, dunno if they’ve addressed this one directly.
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Jadespring Sun, May 9, 2010 5:05:12pm |
re: #206 Alouette
I just planted my tomatoes, and there is a frost warning tonight.
I went out and covered up my babies with plastic bags.
I was planning on planting some of mine this past weekend but it snowed. Now it’s warming up again so maybe in a couple of days. They’re getting too big for my plant light stand. :)
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 5:05:30pm |
re: #206 Alouette
I just planted my tomatoes, and there is a frost warning tonight.
I went out and covered up my babies with plastic bags.
Same here. I didn’t cover them but surrounded them with grass clipping from my yard.
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jaunte Sun, May 9, 2010 5:05:33pm |
re: #207 allegro
That would have been really annoying. What kind of business was it, if you don’t mind saying?
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Gus Sun, May 9, 2010 5:07:08pm |
re: #207 allegro
Federal funding or not, I think this is an excellent policy. Not long ago I was at a business meeting and at the luncheon we were all ordered to stand up and hold hands for a prayer. Ohhhkay. I figured it would be a thanks for this food ditty, not a big deal but nope. It was a long-winded come to Jesus, accept Jesus now or face an eternity of hell, on and on. The lady to my left was Jewish, the lady to my right was east Indian. I’m surprised none of us had broken bones in our hands the way our rage was making us squeeze.
Or according to Matthew 6.5-8
And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, May 9, 2010 5:08:17pm |
re: #214 Gus 802
Mormons have endless mental comedy routines about saying prayers asking the Lord to bless the brownies and punch we are about to eat for a church activities.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, May 9, 2010 5:08:35pm |
re: #205 Jadespring
Yes I know. And there’s part of me who would rather be working on those problems and try to be part of working on solutions then just sitting around and watching them happen from a far.
If it gets to that point, you will not be working on those problems there. You will be forced to move.
Some more really useful stuff to look at from Princeton…
NOAA GFDL Climate Research Highlights:
Summaries, Graphics and Animations
about these summaries, images and animations and connections to the IPCC 2007 report
Scientific research conducted at NOAA’s Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory (GFDL) figures prominently in climate change assessment studies, such as those assembled by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and the United States Climate Change Research Program (US CCSP). On this web page, we provide links to short summaries, high resolution graphics, and animations that describe some of GFDL’s recent research highlights regarding climate change - results that illustrate and complement findings reported on in the IPCC WG1 Summary for Policymakers released on 2 February 2007.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 5:09:05pm |
re: #201 Alouette
And a big *smack* to anybody who compares this to “male circumcision”
Sort of like the similarity between a manicure and getting your fingers cut off.
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Nimed Sun, May 9, 2010 5:09:28pm |
re: #197 NJDhockeyfan
They didn’t have to go out of their way to provide free legal services for that scum. He could have gotten his own lawyer.
I’m not that familiar with the case, I just never pass up an opportunity to be a sanctimonious jerk. It is my understanding that it’s often very difficult to find legal representation for this and other sorts of crimes, and that’s why the ACLU takes them?
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Decatur Deb Sun, May 9, 2010 5:09:28pm |
re: #214 Gus 802
At sponsored feasts you always want the Catholic chaplain to offer grace. It’s 15 seconds flat without unseemly rush.
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Gus Sun, May 9, 2010 5:09:37pm |
re: #215 EmmmieG
Mormons have endless mental comedy routines about saying prayers asking the Lord to bless the brownies and punch we are about to eat for a church activities.
Sounds interesting. I’ll have to look into that.
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Sun, May 9, 2010 5:12:11pm |
re: #193 Dark_Falcon
The ACLU is not a friend of religion, IMO.
Yeah, you might think that unless your actually paying attention to the cases that don’t engender widespresd Christian outrage…they fight for religious 1st amendment rights too, here are some of the cases…
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lostlakehiker Sun, May 9, 2010 5:13:17pm |
re: #152 Jadespring
That is actually a concern that’s in the back of my mind. Do you have any info or links to general predictions of what may happen to areas in that region? Where would I look to find out about this sort of thing?
Climate science isn’t in a position to make specific predictions for specific regions. The general thinking seems to be that it will get less than 1 degree Fahrenheit warmer and that sea level will rise some amount measured in centimeters and millimeters. The big changes come later, as the Greenland ice cap melts. If your time horizon is 25 years, the climate isn’t likely to change all that much by then. Of course, knowledge of bad things to come can affect real estate prices ahead of the event. Who will buy oceanfront property when it becomes general knowledge that said property will eventually be underwater?
Changes in climate can have indirect effects. Who would think that a heat wave in Kansas would lead to riots in Egypt? But the thing is, crop yields are linked to food prices and food prices that rise just a little, to where they’re a bit more than the poor can pay rather than a bit less, can put people in desperate fixes where they’ll do desperate things.
Poor countries that prosper moderately due to tourism can be hit hard by a modest recession back in the wealthier nations.
Military storms that cannot inflict more than a glancing blow on great powers can overwhelm the weak. Hugo Chavez will never put an army on U.S. soil, but his forces can perfectly well make trouble for Costa Rica, as Castro’s forces made trouble for Grenada.
The U.S. is a gilt-edged bond when it comes to stability, rule of law, truth, justice, and the American way. :-) For all that our economy and educational system are mismanaged, for all that we’re spending more than we can afford, and for all the rancor and strife that divides us, these problems are the problems of the wise and happy. Relatively speaking.
If you do move, it would be wise to retain U.S. citizenship. That way, if things go sour there, and if you can make it to the exits before they go totally sour, when you hit customs, they’ll say ‘welcome home’.
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Gus Sun, May 9, 2010 5:14:30pm |
re: #219 Decatur Deb
At sponsored feasts you always want the Catholic chaplain to offer grace. It’s 15 seconds flat without unseemly rush.
Oremus. Benedic, Domine, nos et hæc tua dona, quæ de tua largitate sumus sumpturi. Per Christum, Dominum nostrum. Amen.
From Wiki, of course.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 5:16:11pm |
re: #223 ausador
Yeah, you might think that unless your actually paying attention to the cases that don’t engender widespresd Christian outrage…they fight for religious 1st amendment rights too, here are some of the cases…
[Link: www.aclufightsforchristians.com…]
So noted.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 5:16:23pm |
re: #226 Gus 802
Oremus. Benedic, Domine, nos et hæc tua dona, quæ de tua largitate sumus sumpturi. Per Christum, Dominum nostrum. Amen.
From Wiki, of course.
Translated?
“Good bread, good meat; Good God, let’s eat!”
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Killgore Trout Sun, May 9, 2010 5:16:24pm |
re: #206 Alouette
I just planted my tomatoes, and there is a frost warning tonight.
I went out and covered up my babies with plastic bags.
I made the same mistake a couple weeks ago.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 5:16:28pm |
re: #223 ausador
Yeah, you might think that unless your actually paying attention to the cases that don’t engender widespresd Christian outrage…they fight for religious 1st amendment rights too, here are some of the cases…
[Link: www.aclufightsforchristians.com…]
I like: ACLU of Virginia Defends Christian Students’ Right to Protest Against ACLU at Public School
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Decatur Deb Sun, May 9, 2010 5:17:09pm |
re: #226 Gus 802
Yeah. And you shave the last sentence for an ecumenical nosh.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 5:17:45pm |
re: #218 Nimed
I’m not that familiar with the case, I just never pass up an opportunity to be a sanctimonious jerk. It is my understanding that it’s often very difficult to find legal representation for this and other sorts of crimes, and that’s why the ACLU takes them?
The state provides legal counsel for anyone who can’t afford a lawyer. The ACLU provide the best lawyers money can buy. There is a difference.
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 5:17:58pm |
Next step to stop oil: Throw garbage at it
Venice, Louisiana (CNN) — If using a massive dome to cover the source of the oil gushing into the Gulf of Mexico doesn’t work, crews are preparing for another option: clogging it.Engineers are examining whether they can close a failed blowout preventer by stuffing it with trash, said Adm. Thad Allen, the commandant of the Coast Guard. The 48-foot-tall, 450-ton device sits atop the well at the heart of the Gulf oil spill and is designed to stop leaks, but it has not been working properly since the oil rig Deepwater Horizon exploded April 20 and later sank.
“The next tactic is going to be something they call a junk shot,” Allen told CBS’s “Face the Nation” on Sunday. “They’ll take a bunch of debris — shredded up tires, golf balls and things like that — and under very high pressure, shoot it into the preventer itself and see if they can clog it up and stop the leak.”
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Jadespring Sun, May 9, 2010 5:18:00pm |
re: #224 lostlakehiker
I’m Canadian. I already looked up citizenship issues and have no plans to give mine up. If I ever got to the point of taking citizenship in another country I would go the dual route.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, May 9, 2010 5:18:47pm |
re: #224 lostlakehiker
Climate science isn’t in a position to make specific predictions for specific regions. The general thinking seems to be that it will get less than 1 degree Fahrenheit warmer and that sea level will rise some amount measured in centimeters and millimeters.
Uhh that has already happened. Please define your time frame and yes we can make numerous regional predictions. In fact, I just linked two pages of such predictions.
The big changes come later, as the Greenland ice cap melts. If your time horizon is 25 years, the climate isn’t likely to change all that much by then.
That depends on where you are and what you consider a big change. Certain Pacific Islands will be completely submerged by that point, and it would look very bad for Bangladesh.
Of course, knowledge of bad things to come can affect real estate prices ahead of the event. Who will buy oceanfront property when it becomes general knowledge that said property will eventually be underwater?
That is part of the point.
Changes in climate can have indirect effects. Who would think that a heat wave in Kansas would lead to riots in Egypt? But the thing is, crop yields are linked to food prices and food prices that rise just a little, to where they’re a bit more than the poor can pay rather than a bit less, can put people in desperate fixes where they’ll do desperate things.
This is a very important point.
Poor countries that prosper moderately due to tourism can be hit hard by a modest recession back in the wealthier nations.
And they will.
Military storms that cannot inflict more than a glancing blow on great powers can overwhelm the weak. Hugo Chavez will never put an army on U.S. soil, but his forces can perfectly well make trouble for Costa Rica, as Castro’s forces made trouble for Grenada.
Good point.
The U.S. is a gilt-edged bond when it comes to stability, rule of law, truth, justice, and the American way. :-) For all that our economy and educational system are mismanaged, for all that we’re spending more than we can afford, and for all the rancor and strife that divides us, these problems are the problems of the wise and happy. Relatively speaking.
Well said.
If you do move, it would be wise to retain U.S. citizenship. That way, if things go sour there, and if you can make it to the exits before they go totally sour, when you hit customs, they’ll say ‘welcome home’.
VERY well said.
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Gus Sun, May 9, 2010 5:19:07pm |
re: #231 Decatur Deb
Yeah. And you shave the last sentence for an ecumenical nosh.
Ugh, now I’m thinking about food again.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, May 9, 2010 5:19:17pm |
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Killgore Trout Sun, May 9, 2010 5:19:23pm |
We’ve finally had a few days of nice spring weather here. Beans are finally sprouting, my potatoes finally stared growing, kohlrabi is doing well, celeriac is surviving. I had to start all over with tomatoes and peppers but it might be a good year in the garden after all.
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lostlakehiker Sun, May 9, 2010 5:19:36pm |
re: #177 NJDhockeyfan
No fucking way…this is pure insanity…
Is it? Anything that saves the girl from a grievous injury is worth considering. Especially if the alternative is an injury so inconsequential as to hardly merit a wince.
The insanity, and cruelty, of current practice, is evidently not going to be stamped out by the wrath of an outraged government. We avert our eyes and mumble that it’s out of our jurisdiction. If force is off the table, what’s wrong with persuasion?
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 5:19:37pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 5:20:14pm |
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Nimed Sun, May 9, 2010 5:20:27pm |
re: #230 SanFranciscoZionist
I like: ACLU of Virginia Defends Christian Students’ Right to Protest Against ACLU at Public School
You just can’t win!
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 5:20:49pm |
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Spare O'Lake Sun, May 9, 2010 5:21:19pm |
re: #232 MandyManners
Frost? On May 9th?
I had snow last night and it stayed on the ground until this morning.
Very unusual.
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Decatur Deb Sun, May 9, 2010 5:23:15pm |
re: #232 MandyManners
Frost? On May 9th?
In Northern NJ they have a phrase: “The Frozen Days of May”. Wife started planning my next change of station the day she heard it.
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 5:23:33pm |
re: #230 SanFranciscoZionist
I like: ACLU of Virginia Defends Christian Students’ Right to Protest Against ACLU at Public School
DOWN WITH US!
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 5:24:00pm |
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 5:24:32pm |
re: #234 Varek Raith
Wait, I saw this plot on Futuerama already, we needed a ball of junk in order to knock the other ball of junk into the sun….
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Nimed Sun, May 9, 2010 5:24:46pm |
re: #224 lostlakehiker
If you do move, it would be wise to retain U.S. citizenship. That way, if things go sour there, and if you can make it to the exits before they go totally sour, when you hit customs, they’ll say ‘welcome home’.
Who doesn’t do that? I did, when I asked for my awesome Portuguese dual citizenship. Well, when my parents did 25 years ago. But still.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 5:24:50pm |
re: #241 lostlakehiker
Is it? Anything that saves the girl from a grievous injury is worth considering. Especially if the alternative is an injury so inconsequential as to hardly merit a wince.
The insanity, and cruelty, of current practice, is evidently not going to be stamped out by the wrath of an outraged government. We avert our eyes and mumble that it’s out of our jurisdiction. If force is off the table, what’s wrong with persuasion?
Female Circumcision is torture no matter how you package it.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 5:26:16pm |
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Decatur Deb Sun, May 9, 2010 5:27:38pm |
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Gus Sun, May 9, 2010 5:28:43pm |
re: #234 Varek Raith
Either that or build a 5000 foot coffer dam. That would be something if they could do that.
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Racer X Sun, May 9, 2010 5:28:59pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 5:29:00pm |
I like this review of the Porsche 911 GT3.
Something strange is going on in this country. In the run-up to the general election David Cameron was constantly accused of being unfit for office because of his excellent education at Eton and Oxford. Isn’t that like suggesting an athlete should be barred from the British Olympic team because they are “too fast”?It was much the same story with Nick Clegg. People loved him … right up to the point when they learnt he had been educated at Westminster and Cambridge. Somehow, that immediately precluded him from being any good at anything. It’s hard, really, to understand what the critics are suggesting. Do they think that a fat and idiotic woman from Mansfield would make a better leader because she is thick? Or am I missing something?
And so it was with the vulgar subject of money. There was a time, not that long ago, when no one in this country ever spoke about how much anyone earned. I remember once being in a Swedish tank when all of a sudden the captain turned and asked: “Right. How much did you make last year?” I couldn’t have been more taken aback if he’d asked me how often I had anal sex.
Now, though, things are different. We are told, often, that the director-general of the BBC earns more than £800,000 and that this is an obscene amount of money. Right. I see. So what should he be paid? Half that? A quarter? Is £50,000 acceptable? To someone on the minimum wage, probably not.
Doubtless the bitter and the twisted looked at all those multi-millionaires in this newspaper’s recent Rich List and thought: “How can any one man possibly have a fortune of £1 billion?”
Why shouldn’t he? It is no skin off your nose. At the very least, you don’t have to sit next to him on a plane. And anyway, if the government took all his money away and distributed it evenly among the rest of the population, you’d be £16 richer and he’d be wondering why he spent his whole life working so damn hard.
He did. One thing I’ve noticed over the years is that if you drive into London at 6am, half of the cars on the roads are Porsches and Astons. Whereas if you go in at ten to nine, they’re all Renaults. Simple solution, then. You want a nice car? Get up earlier and do more work.
This opinion no longer washes, though. I appear to be in a minority of one. People still want to be rich, but they don’t want anyone else to get there first; a point that becomes blindingly obvious when you try to pull out of a side turning in an ice-white Porsche 911 GT3.
…
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 5:30:54pm |
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Bear Sun, May 9, 2010 5:31:06pm |
I just got back from a Sunday drive over to the eastern side of the island. There is an overlook where you may see the ice bergs from the southern most glacier on the west side of the North American Continent that flows into salt water. This time I saw very few ice bergs when normally the bergs form a white mass across the bay. I wonder if the temperature was cooler than usual?
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 5:31:31pm |
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Racer X Sun, May 9, 2010 5:32:17pm |
Flooding in Tennessee
Last weekend, powerful thunderstorms drenched Tennessee, Kentucky and Mississippi, dumping over 13 inches of rain on the region in two days. Creeks, lakes and rivers swelled with the rainwater, overflowing their banks, washing away roads, and causing the deaths of at least 24 people so far.
The Cumberland River, which winds through downtown Nashville, Tennessee, crested Monday at 51.9 feet, 12 feet above flood stage, spilling into the city and surrounding neighborhoods. As the waters are now receding, cleanup and recovery begins, as municipal workers begin to repair power supplies and water treatment plants, and residents return to their homes to recover what they can. (38 photos total)
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 5:32:34pm |
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Decatur Deb Sun, May 9, 2010 5:34:45pm |
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lostlakehiker Sun, May 9, 2010 5:37:23pm |
re: #126 ludwigvanquixote
Oh, speaking of Ukraine and Jews, here is a true story I have from a colleague and friend. For real, family story. I didn’t write down the names, so those, I’ll invent. The dialogue is approximate.
Anatoly [relative of my source for the story] was a kulak in a village outside Kiev. His friend Moshe, the local tinker, came to him one day, just ahead of the pogrom. Quick, behind the door. Be still.
Cossack captain comes up to the door. We’re looking for this yid on the run. You seen anything?
Fuck em. Filthy kikes. Hope you get the lot. Come on in, look around if you like, but no, sorry.
We have work to do. He’s getting away as we speak. See you.
Yaroslav, Anatoly’s son, arrives emaciated and haggard at Isaac’s Kiev office in the commisariat for identity papers. Isaac, Moshe’s son.
I’m on the lam. They’re starving and killing everybody. Can you get me papers as a worker? I’m good with engines.
It’s my life if I’m found out. But yes, I know a way.
And so it was. A life for a life. The gift regiven.
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Interesting Times Sun, May 9, 2010 5:38:31pm |
re: #259 Gus 802
Either that or build a 5000 foot coffer dam. That would be something if they could do that.
Could this concept work?
To whom it may concern at BP Oil,
I think I may have come up with an idea that will help contain the Gulf spill and can be manufactured relatively quickly. I am not an engineer, but I do have a Master of Industrial Design degree from The Rhode Island School of Design, where I received the Rachel Carson Environmental award for ecologically responsible design.Please find the attached jpeg sketch of a “Permeable Cone Stocking” concept.
This approach would avoid the complicated chemistry involved in deep sea high-pressure capture efforts by making the tube between the ocean floor leak and the water surface PERMEABLE. As a result, this method allows some oil to escape, but more or less contains it within the cone.
The drawing shows the bottom of the cone nailed to the ocean floor, but upon further consideration, it could simply be attached to a rigid steel hoop and positioned less precisely over the leak - so long as the majority of the spewing was going into the cone.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 5:40:44pm |
re: #271 MandyManners
If I have a flood? Y’all have a biiig problem. I’m on the side of a mountain…1800 feet above sea level.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 5:41:11pm |
Woman alleges capture, threats by parents
A Campbell woman of Yemeni descent says she was abducted by her parents and taken to Hermitage, Pa., where they threatened to send her back to her homeland.
The victim, 32, told police she was leaving a doctor’s appointment at an office on U.S. Route 224 when her father came up behind her, grabbed her in a bear hug and put her in the back seat of her car.
The father then got into the driver’s seat, and her mother in the back seat with her. They drove to the Sheetz gas station in Hermitage.
No charges have been filed.
“I’m still gathering information and still trying to talk to witnesses,” said Boardman Detective Glenn Patton.
The woman told police that her parents, who are Muslim, don’t approve of her marriage to a Christian man.
Reached Friday, the woman, who was born in the United States, said she’s OK and she wasn’t injured.
Unidentified men brought the rental van the woman’s parents had been driving to Sheetz, she told police. The men then took the woman’s car. Police entered the car as a stolen vehicle.
She and her parents argued, and the parents told her that her brother was going to meet them, take her to New Jersey and that she would be sent to Yemen.
The woman sent her husband a text message, telling him she needed help.
….
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 5:42:17pm |
Have been watching the story of us on the History channel. The 400 ships the British assemble to retake New York was the largest gathering of Royal Navy ships until D-Day.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 5:42:39pm |
re: #274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
If I have a flood? Y’all have a biiig problem. I’m on the side of a mountain…1800 feet above sea level.
Me too. Then again my uncle used to own a farm in Tennessee with sea shell fossils all over the mountain. Could happen again.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 5:43:22pm |
re: #276 pingjockey
Have been watching the story of us on the History channel. The 400 ships the British assemble to retake New York was the largest gathering of Royal Navy ships until D-Day.
I saw that. Outstanding series so far. I’ve learned a lot so far.
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Gus Sun, May 9, 2010 5:44:07pm |
re: #273 publicityStunted
Would have to be rather large. At least 5000 feet in length. Then it would have to withstand underwater currents.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 5:44:55pm |
re: #275 NJDhockeyfan
Woman alleges capture, threats by parents
A Campbell woman of Yemeni descent says she was abducted by her parents and taken to Hermitage, Pa., where they threatened to send her back to her homeland.
The victim, 32, told police she was leaving a doctor’s appointment at an office on U.S. Route 224 when her father came up behind her, grabbed her in a bear hug and put her in the back seat of her car.
The father then got into the driver’s seat, and her mother in the back seat with her. They drove to the Sheetz gas station in Hermitage.
No charges have been filed.
“I’m still gathering information and still trying to talk to witnesses,” said Boardman Detective Glenn Patton.
The woman told police that her parents, who are Muslim, don’t approve of her marriage to a Christian man.
Reached Friday, the woman, who was born in the United States, said she’s OK and she wasn’t injured.
Unidentified men brought the rental van the woman’s parents had been driving to Sheetz, she told police. The men then took the woman’s car. Police entered the car as a stolen vehicle.
She and her parents argued, and the parents told her that her brother was going to meet them, take her to New Jersey and that she would be sent to Yemen.
The woman sent her husband a text message, telling him she needed help.
…
I’m glad she got away. If not, she would have either been forced into divorce of her husband and into marriage with a Muslim or she would have been an “honor killing”. Her parents should be ashamed, and I hope a prison sentence will serve to remind them that we don’t so things like that in America.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 5:45:13pm |
re: #278 NJDhockeyfan
Heh. Baron von Steuben was bitchin’ about the US soldier. The Prussians, British, etc… take orders without asking why, the US soldiers have to be told why they’re doing certain drills.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 5:46:44pm |
re: #279 MandyManners
There are no creeks near your house?
Not close enough to get to me. Now… down in the holler? Dif’rent.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 5:49:17pm |
re: #285 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
If we get a flood here it means all the dams on the upper Columbia river have busted and Portland is toast! There are 3 dams above us until you get to Grand Coulee Dam.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 5:50:11pm |
Fired Homestead manager files bias complaint
HOMESTEAD — A man of Palestinian descent who was fired from his nearly $180,000 city government job after allegedly viewing a fetish website at work and sending sexually suggestive text messages to a subordinate on his city-issued Blackberry has filed an employment discrimination complaint.
Former Homestead City Manager Mohammad Aref “Mike” Shehadeh, 52, was placed on administrative leave on Nov. 4, pending the outcome of an investigation into his work activities. He was fired for conduct unbecoming a city manager at a special Feb. 3 city council meeting after a private investigative firm reported the results of its probe into his work activities.
The probe revealed that Shehadeh used his city computer to spend time at Arab dating websites, with more than 300 visits. He also allegedly solicited business for his brother’s firm, engaged in political activities on behalf of some council members, and visited GoddessQetesh.com, a dominatrix website.
The hostess of GoddessQetesh.com describes herself as being interested in forced bi-curious activities, and states that she is seeking personal and financial slave servants.
The hostess further states that she enjoys doling out whippings, public humiliation and other risqué desires.
Shehadeh could not be reached for comment.
Heh.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 5:50:40pm |
re: #286 pingjockey
If we get a flood here it means all the dams on the upper Columbia river have busted and Portland is toast! There are 3 dams above us until you get to Grand Coulee Dam.
Johnstown, Pa knows about busted dams.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 5:50:51pm |
re: #281 MandyManners
What’s next? They kill her for their “tarnished” honor?
Not now they won’t. They’ll get his and hers cells in separate prisons. Her father will then acquire a ‘daddy’ of his own.
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 5:52:30pm |
re: #289 Dark_Falcon
Not now they won’t. They’ll get his and hers cells in separate prisons. Her father will then acquire a ‘daddy’ of his own.
I normally find jokes like that distasteful, but in allowing their religious beliefs to overcome their supposedly unending love for their family members, they deserve every bit of it…
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 5:53:27pm |
re: #287 NJDhockeyfan
Fired Homestead manager files bias complaint
Heh.
He won’t win. Surfing porn is a pretty solid reason for termination.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 5:53:48pm |
re: #290 jamesfirecat
I normally find jokes like that distasteful, but in allowing their religious beliefs to overcome their supposedly unending love for their family members, they deserve every bit of it…
Quite Concur.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 5:56:59pm |
re: #293 MandyManners
Damn straight. Kidnapping is a federal offense.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 5:57:50pm |
re: #291 Dark_Falcon
He won’t win. Surfing porn is a pretty solid reason for termination.
I wonder if he will get kicked out of his mosque for surfing bi-curious dominatrix websites.
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Decatur Deb Sun, May 9, 2010 5:58:18pm |
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 5:58:58pm |
re: #296 NJDhockeyfan
Boy, I could throw out some stuff about imams and preachers, but I won’t.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, May 9, 2010 5:59:13pm |
re: #296 NJDhockeyfan
I wonder if he will get kicked out of his mosque for surfing bi-curious dominatrix websites.
Does the imam visit the same sites?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 5:59:56pm |
re: #299 pingjockey
Boy, I could throw out some stuff about imams and preachers, but I won’t.
No, do it. I need a laugh.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 6:01:04pm |
re: #287 NJDhockeyfan
The dude claims the city is discriminating against his sexual orientation or his freedom of sexual expression. /// Actually I have no idea why he thinks he has a bias claim.
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Racer X Sun, May 9, 2010 6:01:08pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 6:01:15pm |
re: #301 MandyManners
I wonder how long they can be locked away?
For kidnapping? At least a decade. And since they were trying to leave the country, they’ll most likely be denied bail as flight risks.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 6:01:54pm |
Taliban Vows Attacks While Karzai Visits U.S.
KABUL %P% In an attempt to steal the spotlight from Afghan President Hamid Karzai’s trip to Washington, the Taliban on Saturday threatened to launch a series of attacks across Afghanistan - a claim the defense minister quickly dismissed as insurgent propaganda.
The Taliban said its spring offensive, targeting Afghan and NATO military and staff plus foreign contractors, would begin on Monday - the same day that Karzai begins meetings in Washington.
A statement in English posted on the group’s website said the offensive dubbed “al-Faath,” which means victory, will include “ambushes, detonations of explosive devices, assassinations of government officials, suicide bombings and detainment of foreign invaders.”
All in the name of peace, I’m sure.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 6:01:56pm |
re: #302 Dark_Falcon
Alouette went there!!! I was gonna say the imam hit the guy up for the addy of the website.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 6:02:45pm |
re: #303 MandyManners
I wouldn’t think so. Taking somebody somewhere against their will is kidnapping.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 6:03:44pm |
re: #304 pingjockey
The dude claims the city is discriminating against his sexual orientation or his freedom of sexual expression. /// Actually I have no idea why he thinks he has a bias claim.
It doesn’t matter what his sexual orientation is, he was on a sex-oriented website while on the clock. That’s a firing offense, clean and simple.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 6:04:15pm |
re: #307 NJDhockeyfan
Of course. Then again after this weekend Karzai maybe ready to quit. He was visited by Pelosi and host of other congress critter experts!
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Spare O'Lake Sun, May 9, 2010 6:04:46pm |
re: #304 pingjockey
Actually I have no idea why he thinks he has a bias claim.
Maybe he made a bi ass claim.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 6:04:50pm |
US Pole Dance Championship 2010
When is pole dancing going to get a place in the Olympics?
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Vicious Babushka Sun, May 9, 2010 6:05:00pm |
re: #310 pingjockey
I wouldn’t think so. Taking somebody somewhere against their will is kidnapping.
How would they get her on a plane. Put duct tape over her mouth and cover her with a burqa?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 6:05:51pm |
re: #311 MandyManners
Maybe letting them leave would be okay.
I’d consider that; They agree to renounce any rights to remain in the US (including citizenship, if they have it), in exchange for being allowed to leave for Yemen without prison time.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 6:06:06pm |
re: #317 Alouette
Maybe the Islamists have their own airline for doing such returns?! /
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 6:06:17pm |
re: #316 NJDhockeyfan
US Pole Dance Championship 2010
[Video]When is pole dancing going to get a place in the Olympics?
When Starcraft gets in!
Though, the South Koreans would always win.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, May 9, 2010 6:06:39pm |
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Nimed Sun, May 9, 2010 6:08:37pm |
re: #321 Varek Raith
When Starcraft gets in!
Though, the South Koreans would always win.
Are there still international Starcraft tournaments? :O
Long-lived game, indeed.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 6:10:35pm |
Researchers in Austria and Germany are developing a process to store renewable electricity as synthetic natural through a combination of electrolysis to produce hydrogen combined with methanation using CO2.
…Our demonstration system in Stuttgart splits water using surplus renewable energy using electrolysis. The result is hydrogen and oxygen. A chemical reaction of hydrogen with carbon dioxide generates methane—and that is nothing other than natural gas, produced synthetically.
Science!
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Nimed Sun, May 9, 2010 6:12:23pm |
From Gates’ recent speech:
Does the number of warships we have and are building really put America at risk when the U.S. battle fleet is larger than the next 13 navies combined, 11 of which belong to allies and partners? Is it a dire threat that by 2020 the United States will have only 20 times more advanced stealth fighters than China?
These are the kinds of questions Eisenhower asked as commander-in-chief. They are the kinds of questions I believe he would ask today. And they are the kinds of question that we must all – civilian, military, in government and out – be willing to ask and answer in order to have a balanced military portfolio geared to real world requirements and a defense budget that is fiscally and politically sustainable over time.M
Inevitable large budget cuts loom on the horizon. I just hope people don’t forget the Defence Department when the time comes.
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 6:12:38pm |
re: #327 Nimed
Are there still international Starcraft tournaments? :O
Long-lived game, indeed.
I think so.
I haven’t played Starcraft online since about 2001
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 6:13:14pm |
re: #269 MandyManners
Doubtless the bitter and the twisted looked at all those multi-millionaires in this newspaper’s recent Rich List and thought: “How can any one man possibly have a fortune of £1 billion?”
Why shouldn’t he? It is no skin off your nose. At the very least, you don’t have to sit next to him on a plane. And anyway, if the government took all his money away and distributed it evenly among the rest of the population, you’d be £16 richer and he’d be wondering why he spent his whole life working so damn hard.
Politics of envy.
Actually, in that case, it’s the politics of defending the rich against the strawman hordes of imaginary bitter and twisted people who might want to take away the money of the beleaguered hard-working rich man.
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 6:14:17pm |
StarCraft Cheating Scandal Rocks South Korea
See?
Crazy.
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 6:15:48pm |
re: #320 pingjockey
Maybe the Islamists have their own airline for doing such returns?! /
Please I don’t think you suggest that even in jest, I don’t want to think this is a common event… it’s totally killing the entire “happy mother’s day” mood of this thread….
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 6:15:56pm |
re: #296 NJDhockeyfan
I wonder if he will get kicked out of his mosque for surfing bi-curious dominatrix websites.
I don’t know if you can be kicked out of a mosque, but I expect there will be a certain amount of muffled laughter at the oneg.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 6:16:02pm |
re: #329 Nimed
Talk to congress! They spend the money. The Marines did not want the V-22 Osprey, the tilt wing rotor craft. However, congress said you’ll take it and like it.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 6:16:06pm |
re: #317 Alouette
How would they get her on a plane. Put duct tape over her mouth and cover her with a burqa?
I’d guess they hadn’t thought it through. Their focus was on getting her back into line through threats and fear. “Reclaiming their honor” was the sole concern. Any love for their daughter took a backseat, as in Arab culture she had put the family in danger by disobeying. The logic goes like this: If the daughter defies her father and gets away with it, then he is shown as weak. And among the Arabs tribes of old, those seen as weak were inevitably attacked by those who wanted their possessions. These two parents had not learned that in America the advent of the Rule of Law means such old tribal rules are no longer in play, or they simply did not care.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 6:17:17pm |
re: #317 Alouette
How would they get her on a plane. Put duct tape over her mouth and cover her with a burqa?
Threatening the husband might get her to cooperate. It wouldn’t be easy, though.
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Nimed Sun, May 9, 2010 6:17:47pm |
re: #331 SanFranciscoZionist
Actually, in that case, it’s the politics of defending the rich against the strawman hordes of imaginary bitter and twisted people who might want to take away the money of the beleaguered hard-working rich man.
If a liberal is not well off, his ideology is fueled by envy. If he is wealthy, he is out of touch and full of misplaced liberal guilt.
Though, in fairness, when a conservative is rich, he is, well, a selfish rich bastard. And when he is not, he can you believe the peasant mentality?
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 6:18:57pm |
re: #337 pingjockey
Should’ve used a tag, oops.
No, you did use a tag… I just think some things sometimes are even beyond the list of things to taken sarcastically, and the fact that we’re talking about a mother betraying her daughter today is a bit of a mood killer you know?
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 6:19:34pm |
Katty Kay On MTP: Racial Profiling May Turn Muslim-Americans To Extremism
This is a theory I have not heard explored before. During a Meet the Press roundtable discussion this morning about Faisal Shahzad, and how he presents a new kind of threat in so far as he is an American citizen. Guest Katty Kay speculated that the very racial profiling that Muslim-Americans are forced to undergo whilst traveling in the United States in the end might be precisely what radicalizes them.
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Nimed Sun, May 9, 2010 6:19:35pm |
re: #335 pingjockey
Talk to congress! They spend the money. The Marines did not want the V-22 Osprey, the tilt wing rotor craft. However, congress said you’ll take it and like it.
I take your word for it. As long as the total amount of spending is cut in proportion to social services.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 6:20:00pm |
re: #336 Dark_Falcon
I’d guess they hadn’t thought it through. Their focus was on getting her back into line through threats and fear. “Reclaiming their honor” was the sole concern. Any love for their daughter took a backseat, as in Arab culture she had put the family in danger by disobeying. The logic goes like this: If the daughter defies her father and gets away with it, then he is shown as weak. And among the Arabs tribes of old, those seen as weak were inevitably attacked by those who wanted their possessions. These two parents had not learned that in America the advent of the Rule of Law means such old tribal rules are no longer in play, or they simply did not care.
I read an interview with the first Beduin woman in Israel to get a doctorate. Apparently, when she went to college, her father came under considerable pressure to remove her from school and get her married.
He told the rest of the tribe to BTFO off, that this was his daughter, and she was going to do what HE, and not THEY thought was best. There was some muttering and threats, but they backed down.
It’s guys like that who keep progress rolling forward.
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Nimed Sun, May 9, 2010 6:21:55pm |
re: #332 Varek Raith
StarCraft Cheating Scandal Rocks South Korea
See?
Crazy.
Indeed. They sure live the game over there. I wonder what will happen to the kids who spent their lives from 14 to 23 playing 10 hours a day.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 6:22:13pm |
re: #339 Nimed
If a liberal is not well off, his ideology is fueled by envy. If he is wealthy, he is out of touch and full of misplaced liberal guilt.
Though, in fairness, when a conservative is rich, he is, well, a selfish rich bastard. And when he is not, he can you believe the peasant mentality?
The only time I think about extremely rich people is when I read People Magazine. Or when Bill Gates gets profiled doing some new tzedakeh project.
One of those, the Gateses were invited in for tea by a woman in some big urban slum in India. They sat down, and talked to her through an interpreter about her kids, thanked her for the tea, and headed out.
One of the reporters asked the lady of the house if she knew that was one of the richest men in the world. She shrugged, and told him that compared to her, most people are rich.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 6:24:47pm |
re: #342 Nimed
Are you talking about cutting social services the same amount as the defence cut?
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Killgore Trout Sun, May 9, 2010 6:24:48pm |
President Obama at Hampton University
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 6:24:58pm |
re: #335 pingjockey
Talk to congress! They spend the money. The Marines did not want the V-22 Osprey, the tilt wing rotor craft. However, congress said you’ll take it and like it.
Yes, but now that they’ve got it they love it. It’s much faster than the UH-60, and it can fly higher and farther. I understand what Secretary Gates is saying, but we do need weapons to fight big wars too. We need to change how we procure defense items, so that these cost overruns are reduced (they cannot be eliminated entirely). We also need to look into ways to reduce non-defense spending, because National Defense is the Federal Government’s most important job.
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Decatur Deb Sun, May 9, 2010 6:26:27pm |
re: #343 SanFranciscoZionist
I read an interview with the first Beduin woman in Israel to get a doctorate. Apparently, when she went to college, her father came under considerable pressure to remove her from school and get her married.
He told the rest of the tribe to BTFO off, that this was his daughter, and she was going to do what HE, and not THEY thought was best. There was some muttering and threats, but they backed down.
It’s guys like that who keep progress rolling forward.
A Bedouin escort told us that his father lived in a tent divided into men’s and women’s quarters by a screen. If the ladies became too loud, the father would cough and they would go quiet. He said he tried coughing in his tent, and his wife yelled over the divider “You should have a doctor look at that.” There is some kind of progress, if only in his joke.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 6:26:59pm |
re: #343 SanFranciscoZionist
I read an interview with the first Bedouin woman in Israel to get a doctorate. Apparently, when she went to college, her father came under considerable pressure to remove her from school and get her married.
He told the rest of the tribe to BTFO off, that this was his daughter, and she was going to do what HE, and not THEY thought was best. There was some muttering and threats, but they backed down.
It’s guys like that who keep progress rolling forward.
Entirely Concur.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 6:27:55pm |
re: #350 Dark_Falcon
Really? I just remember the maintenance was very intensive and they kept crashing! Congress does make the Pentagon buy stuff they don’t want and then again the Pentagon will get a pet project and keep throwing money at it.
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Nimed Sun, May 9, 2010 6:27:59pm |
re: #348 pingjockey
Are you talking about cutting social services the same amount as the defence cut?
I’m saying they should do that (at least) in the next “bipartisan commission for fiscal responsibility”, when the time comes.
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Sun, May 9, 2010 6:28:30pm |
re: #259 Gus 802
Either that or build a 5000 foot coffer dam. That would be something if they could do that.
Not In My BackYard!
/besides they could screw with the Gulf stream and seriously mess things up for Floridians. ;)
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 6:28:56pm |
re: #350 Dark_Falcon
Yes, but now that they’ve got it they love it. It’s much faster than the UH-60, and it can fly higher and farther. I understand what Secretary Gates is saying, but we do need weapons to fight big wars too. We need to change how we procure defense items, so that these cost overruns are reduced (they cannot be eliminated entirely). We also need to look into ways to reduce non-defense spending, because National Defense is the Federal Government’s most important job.
Alright, incoming rant!
This drives me nuts. I hear people saying “we don’t need weapons that aren’t useful against the WoT” Things like air superiority fighters and the like. Hello?! Terrorists aren’t going to be the only enemies we’re going to face! Good grief, that line of thinking leads to us getting caught with our pants down.
Rant off.
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Decatur Deb Sun, May 9, 2010 6:30:12pm |
re: #353 pingjockey
Really? I just remember the maintenance was very intensive and they kept crashing! Congress does make the Pentagon buy stuff they don’t want and then again the Pentagon will get a pet project and keep throwing money at it.
The hydraulics weren’t up to the pressures required by the wing transition. They fixed it when they were done blaming the pilots.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 6:30:16pm |
re: #354 Nimed
Heh. Those bipartisian commissions are never made up of folks actually serving in congress. It’s always folks who’ve retired or been voted out. This allows sitting congress critters to tell their constituents “we didn’t cut this or that, the commission did!”
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, May 9, 2010 6:31:16pm |
re: #356 Varek Raith
Alright, incoming rant!
This drives me nuts. I hear people saying “we don’t need weapons that aren’t useful against the WoT” Things like air superiority fighters and the like. Hello?! Terrorists aren’t going to be the only enemies we’re going to face! Good grief, that line of thinking leads to us getting caught with our pants down.
Rant off.
This from a guy whose defense budget includes funding for star destroyers, man-eating barracudas, impenetrable shields, laser guns, and, most importantly, a weapon that can destroy peeps?
Black-pot-kettle, dude.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 6:31:36pm |
re: #357 Decatur Deb
Cool. All that was going on abut the time I retired. Since it’s been fixed it hasn’ been in the news. Glad it works.
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Decatur Deb Sun, May 9, 2010 6:33:07pm |
re: #360 pingjockey
Think they lost one in SWA recently, don’t know the cause.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 6:33:38pm |
re: #353 pingjockey
Really? I just remember the maintenance was very intensive and they kept crashing! Congress does make the Pentagon buy stuff they don’t want and then again the Pentagon will get a pet project and keep throwing money at it.
Really really. The V-22 is battle in Afghanistan and Iraq and it has proved itself. The Marines now like it, because its higher, faster flight allows them to more quickly reach the battlefield and it minimizes their exposure to ground fire. The Osprey is now here to stay.
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 6:33:56pm |
re: #359 EmmmieG
This from a guy whose defense budget includes funding for star destroyers, man-eating
barracudasTerentateks, impenetrable shields, laser guns, and, most importantly, a weapon that can destroy peeps?Black-pot-kettle, dude.
FTFY.
:)
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Killgore Trout Sun, May 9, 2010 6:34:05pm |
re: #349 Killgore Trout
President Obama at Hampton University
[Video]
Wingnuts are seething over this speech. They are taking great offense about references to Ipods and playstation.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 6:34:08pm |
Holy Blizzard! Talking about the Donner Party. 5 feet of snow overnight, then the drifts piled up to 60 feet.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 6:35:40pm |
re: #362 Dark_Falcon
Thanks for the info. I was in the gulf during the abortive rescue attempt of the hostages in 1980 and with all the engine/sand issues, I wondered how the V-22 was going to make out in the field.
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 6:36:23pm |
re: #365 pingjockey
Holy Blizzard! Talking about the Donner Party. 5 feet of snow overnight, then the drifts piled up to 60 feet.
Good gravy, where are you, Antarctica???
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brookly red Sun, May 9, 2010 6:36:52pm |
re: #356 Varek Raith
Alright, incoming rant!
This drives me nuts. I hear people saying “we don’t need weapons that aren’t useful against the WoT” Things like air superiority fighters and the like. Hello?! Terrorists aren’t going to be the only enemies we’re going to face! Good grief, that line of thinking leads to us getting caught with our pants down.
Rant off.
yes some day we will need to deal with those send them too…
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 6:37:13pm |
Evening Honcos. I see one person owns the Bottom 10. Did I miss a flounce?
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 6:38:20pm |
re: #367 Varek Raith
Watching the History Channel. That was the size of the blizzard the Donner Party got caught in. The ended up resorting to canabalism! This was 1846.
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 6:38:41pm |
re: #369 Cannadian Club Akbar
Evening Honcos. I see one person owns the Bottom 10. Did I miss a flounce?
Nope, but a hell of an entrance!
Karma: -543scrooster
lover, fighter, wild bull rider
Registered since: May 8, 2010 at 4:43 pm
No. of comments posted: 34
No. of links posted: 0
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Sun, May 9, 2010 6:38:46pm |
re: #359 EmmmieG
This from a guy whose defense budget includes funding for star destroyers, man-eating barracudas, impenetrable shields, laser guns, and, most importantly, a weapon that can destroy peeps?
Black-pot-kettle, dude.
What? No “Sharks with Laser Beams on their Fricckin Heads?”
What kind of Dr. Evil national defense plan is that?
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 6:39:01pm |
re: #369 Cannadian Club Akbar
Evening Honcos. I see one person owns the Bottom 10. Did I miss a flounce?
He didn’t exactly flounce, he just sort of spewed.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 6:39:36pm |
re: #372 ausador
What? No “Sharks with Laser Beams on their Fricckin Heads?”
What kind of
Dr. Evilnational defense plan is that?
That’s not a national defense plan, that’s just Varek’s home security system!
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HoosierHoops Sun, May 9, 2010 6:39:37pm |
Happy Mother’s Day!
So today I watched a documentary on The Greatest hitter in Baseball.. Ted Williams…(as a kid in little league baseball I always used a Ted Williams Bat..but knew little of him)
The first half of the Doc I learned to hate his guts…I had no idea he was such a frigging jerk..I mean an asshole just like Ty Cobb.. Then after he went to war he became a changed man..He was a pilot during WW2…Mostly trained pilots for combat and then was sent to the Korea war as a jet pilot…Still hated his guts…Then they have this rare tape of Ted crash landing his Jet..
As his jet is going down the runway on it’s belly.. Ted yelled every curse word known to man in about 15 secs..It was so funny..I almost fell off the couch laughing…I mean every bad word known in the English language in just a few seconds…I’m still laughing..Anyway.. Ted Williams Story ended up fantastic and to tell you truth.. I cried at the end..Dang it..
But his sliding down the runway screaming you son of a bitch! and every bad word invented was just funny as heck..
RIP Ted
/Ted was old school…But the thing the doc brought out was he didn’t have a raciest bone in his body..He loved and encouraged Negro players in a time when most of America was raciest..He was a dickhead but never had a raciest bone in his body..To see Tony Gwynn speak of his love for him with tears in his eyes was very moving..
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 6:39:53pm |
re: #371 Varek Raith
Fuck. -543 in a 24 hour period. Gotta be a record.
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 6:40:08pm |
re: #370 pingjockey
Watching the History Channel. That was the size of the blizzard the Donner Party got caught in. The ended up resorting to canabalism! This was 1846.
Oh, off by a few years, I was…
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Nimed Sun, May 9, 2010 6:40:22pm |
re: #356 Varek Raith
Alright, incoming rant!
This drives me nuts. I hear people saying “we don’t need weapons that aren’t useful against the WoT” Things like air superiority fighters and the like. Hello?! Terrorists aren’t going to be the only enemies we’re going to face! Good grief, that line of thinking leads to us getting caught with our pants down.
Rant off.
We spend nearly as much as the rest of the world combined in defence. Are you saying that there is no room for cuts when the time comes to make some very hard choices to balance our budget?
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Decatur Deb Sun, May 9, 2010 6:40:26pm |
re: #370 pingjockey
Watching the History Channel. That was the size of the blizzard the Donner Party got caught in. The ended up resorting to canabalism! This was 1846.
Family fare for Mother’s Day.
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 6:40:55pm |
re: #376 Cannadian Club Akbar
Fuck. -543 in a 24 hour period. Gotta be a record.
I don’t know, how much did did Buck’s karma sink during the Andrew Britebart thread?
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 6:41:37pm |
re: #378 Nimed
We spend nearly as much as the rest of the world combined in defence. Are you saying that there is no room for cuts when the time comes to make some very hard choices to balance our budget?
Of course not.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 6:42:16pm |
re: #380 jamesfirecat
I don’t know, how much did did Buck’s karma sink during the Andrew Britebart thread?
Missed it. But I remember it.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 6:42:20pm |
re: #376 Cannadian Club Akbar
Fuck. -543 in a 24 hour period. Gotta be a record.
Dunno, maybe. How fast did the AnneFrance thing go down?
This one was not so interesting, he just had a set of talking point about why Obama was the worst thing ever, then he started getting, I don’t know, intellectual or something.
Plus, he told Alouette to pound sand in an uncomfortable place, so as far as I’m concerned, he’s PNG.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 6:42:37pm |
re: #379 Decatur Deb
I’m actually surprised the History Channel didn’t have the True story of Mothers’ Day or some such thing. They’re running all of the previous episodes of “America, the story of us.”
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 6:42:46pm |
re: #380 jamesfirecat
I don’t know, how much did did Buck’s karma sink during the Andrew Britebart thread?
That one was also fun, but Buck was much better behaved than this guy.
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 6:43:06pm |
re: #381 Varek Raith
Of course not.
The Zumwalt is a good example. We’re going to build, what, three of them???
What use is that???
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brookly red Sun, May 9, 2010 6:43:58pm |
re: #378 Nimed
We spend nearly as much as the rest of the world combined in defence. Are you saying that there is no room for cuts when the time comes to make some very hard choices to balance our budget?
no doubt we could spend some monies better… but as far as the rest of the world is concerned we spend more cause for better or worse we actually use our.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 6:44:04pm |
re: #380 jamesfirecat
I went and looked. That is an impressive (?) total for just being a hatchling.
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Nimed Sun, May 9, 2010 6:44:13pm |
re: #376 Cannadian Club Akbar
Fuck. -543 in a 24 hour period. Gotta be a record.
That’s weird. He wasn’t that bad for a troll (generally, I don’t know about LGF). He just spouted a bunch of common (a bit outdated, even) clichés about Obama. Oh, and one racial epithet, but not one of the worst.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 6:45:01pm |
re: #386 Varek Raith
What the hell is my navy gonna build now?
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 6:45:04pm |
re: #386 Varek Raith
The Zumwalt is a good example. We’re going to build, what, three of them???
What use is that???
Then again, I’m a number of units kind of guy.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 6:45:41pm |
re: #384 pingjockey
I’m actually surprised the History Channel didn’t have the True story of Mothers’ Day or some such thing. They’re running all of the previous episodes of “America, the story of us.”
I don’t know how much drama you can get out of the story of Mothers Day.
The only remotely exciting Mothers Day story I’ve ever heard was in one of Jennifer Weiner’s books, when one woman explains that she got fired from her job at the Canal House Restaurant when, because the manager was mean to her, she and her boyfriend came by in the small hours and removed the C from the sign just in time for Mothers Day brunch.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 6:45:44pm |
re: #383 SanFranciscoZionist
I saw the Alouette comment. I’m sure the Lirard Army’s response was swift.
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brookly red Sun, May 9, 2010 6:46:07pm |
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 6:46:09pm |
re: #389 Nimed
That’s weird. He wasn’t that bad for a troll (generally, I don’t know about LGF). He just spouted a bunch of common (a bit outdated, even) clichés about Obama. Oh, and one racial epithet, but not one of the worst.
Well it’s because he wasn’t bad enough to get banned before he could rake up a truly impressively low Karma score.
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 6:46:24pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 6:47:24pm |
re: #389 Nimed
That’s weird. He wasn’t that bad for a troll (generally, I don’t know about LGF). He just spouted a bunch of common (a bit outdated, even) clichés about Obama. Oh, and one racial epithet, but not one of the worst.
He was just being a jerk. And people here work very hard not to fall for the kind of stuff he was spouting, and know the facts, so we get annoyed when some guy who hasn’t bothered to look any farther than FR comes along.
Also, the racial stuff doesn’t fly here. Ever.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 6:47:28pm |
re: #376 Cannadian Club Akbar
Fuck. -543 in a 24 hour period. Gotta be a record.
Yeah, I think that actually beats AnneFrance for the most downdings in a single thread.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 6:48:06pm |
re: #393 Cannadian Club Akbar
I saw the Alouette comment. I’m sure the Lirard Army’s response was swift.
Dark Falcon led everyone back from this thread, and some stomping took place.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 6:48:47pm |
re: #396 Varek Raith
Yep, went and looked. They already screwed up the Burke DDGs, no fucking helo hangar. This looks like a lot of cash for a R&D ship. 3 ships doesn’t amount to squat.
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 6:49:01pm |
re: #399 SanFranciscoZionist
Dark Falcon led everyone back from this thread, and some stomping took place.
DUN-TA-LUNTA-DUN-DUAH!
CHARGE!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 6:49:13pm |
re: #399 SanFranciscoZionist
Dark Falcon led everyone back from this thread, and some stomping took place.
Cool. You da man, DF. And props to the stompers.
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Nimed Sun, May 9, 2010 6:49:15pm |
re: #395 jamesfirecat
Well it’s because he wasn’t bad enough to get banned before he could rake up a truly impressively low Karma score.
You’re absolutely right. That was his major talent - he could really walk the rope.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 6:49:54pm |
re: #403 Nimed
You’re absolutely right. That was his major talent - he could really walk the rope.
But can he piss up one?
/
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Decatur Deb Sun, May 9, 2010 6:51:10pm |
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lostlakehiker Sun, May 9, 2010 6:51:27pm |
re: #255 NJDhockeyfan
Female Circumcision is torture no matter how you package it.
The question is, which is worse? A ritual pinprick/nick which will be of no lasting consequence, or full-bore the works, as recounted by Ayaan Hirsi Ali? I’m a great believer in mitigation and damage control. Sometimes there is just no way to absolutely and entirely avoid harm. If the harm down one road is less painful than a paper cut, and heals as completely, well? Again, if we had the option to prevent this, that would be best. We just don’t. Or, maybe we do, but the will isn’t there. Either we cannot, or we will not, defend the girl. That’s not how I’d run things but I’m not in charge. Now, from there, with that reality a given, what do you do?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 6:52:06pm |
I got a friend request on FB. The guy had the same name as a guy I knew, that died 2 years ago. Turns out it was a cousin I didn’t know I had. Weird.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 6:52:25pm |
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brookly red Sun, May 9, 2010 6:52:40pm |
re: #405 Decatur Deb
That drawing looks a bit like the CSS Virginia.
So does this:
if it ain’t broke don’t fix it…
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 6:53:11pm |
re: #408 Dark_Falcon
Had to be done. The troll’s assaults on Alouette and SFZ were vile and indecent. They demanded prompt pounding.
Bugger, I missed it.
Though, I assume you put that heavy artillery to good use.
:)
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 6:54:12pm |
re: #408 Dark_Falcon
Had to be done. The troll’s assaults on Alouette and SFZ were vile and indecent. They demanded prompt pounding.
Was he pimping FR?
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 6:54:37pm |
re: #409 brookly red
if it ain’t broke don’t fix it…
I’m so gonna get a Man of War and go pirate hunting!
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lostlakehiker Sun, May 9, 2010 6:54:45pm |
re: #277 NJDhockeyfan
Me too. Then again my uncle used to own a farm in Tennessee with sea shell fossils all over the mountain. Could happen again.
Those fossils were formed before the mountain. They predate the mountain. The rocks, with the fossils in them, were lifted from the seabed by plate tectonics forces.
As old as the hills is not actually all that old. Mere millions of years. The contours of the earth, seen in time lapse photography with one frame shot every ten thousand years, toss and heave. Mountain ranges come and go. Fossils abide.
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HoosierHoops Sun, May 9, 2010 6:55:39pm |
re: #410 Varek Raith
Bugger, I missed it.
Though, I assume you put that heavy artillery to good use.
:)
I missed it also..Frigging trolls
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 6:58:55pm |
re: #412 Varek Raith
Know just the thing we need . Typhoon class patrol boat. We had a couple alongside my cruiser getting fuel in the PG. Twin .50s on each brdge wing, auto 40mm/25mm chain gun combo midships and m60s or .50 any where else you could put them.
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lostlakehiker Sun, May 9, 2010 6:59:39pm |
re: #350 Dark_Falcon
Yes, but now that they’ve got it they love it. It’s much faster than the UH-60, and it can fly higher and farther. I understand what Secretary Gates is saying, but we do need weapons to fight big wars too. We need to change how we procure defense items, so that these cost overruns are reduced (they cannot be eliminated entirely). We also need to look into ways to reduce non-defense spending, because National Defense is the Federal Government’s most important job.
You can take what Gates says to the bank. He’s the real thing. We may need weapons for big wars too, but we have 5113 of those. Military power grows out of a barrel of money. If we throw all our money at current readiness, there will be less of a civilian economy, which must mean weakness down the road. On the long view, the right level of military spending has to take into account the need for a military decades hence, and the need for money with which to buy what it needs then.
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HoosierHoops Sun, May 9, 2010 7:01:34pm |
OBTW…I opened the pool today..That’s right..The pool is open! There isn’t a chance in hell I’ll even dip a toe in it for 3 weeks…It looks so pretty…You dive in and I promise you an instant heart attack..The water is like 41 degrees..
But..THE POOL IS OPEN!
/
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 9, 2010 7:01:50pm |
re: #376 Cannadian Club Akbar
Not even 24 hours, more like 6!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 7:02:32pm |
re: #419 HoosierHoops
OBTW…I opened the pool today..That’s right..The pool is open! There isn’t a chance in hell I’ll even dip a toe in it for 3 weeks…It looks so pretty…You dive in and I promise you an instant heart attack..The water is like 41 degrees..
But..THE POOL IS OPEN!
/
That’s weird, I just bought beer!!!
//
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 7:02:43pm |
re: #419 HoosierHoops
Hah! My pool has been open for 2 weeks. However, no one has been mad enough to jump in, not even the 10 yr old!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 7:03:04pm |
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brookly red Sun, May 9, 2010 7:03:31pm |
re: #417 lostlakehiker
You can take what Gates says to the bank. He’s the real thing. We may need weapons for big wars too, but we have 5113 of those. Military power grows out of a barrel of money. If we throw all our money at current readiness, there will be less of a civilian economy, which must mean weakness down the road. On the long view, the right level of military spending has to take into account the need for a military decades hence, and the need for money with which to buy what it needs then.
yes to some extent I agree, for big wars you don’t as much need hardware as the perception that you will use it.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 9, 2010 7:03:55pm |
re: #419 HoosierHoops
OBTW…I opened the pool today..That’s right..The pool is open! There isn’t a chance in hell I’ll even dip a toe in it for 3 weeks…It looks so pretty…You dive in and I promise you an instant heart attack..The water is like 41 degrees..
But..THE POOL IS OPEN!
/
You better NOT have thrown Winston in it yet…
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HoosierHoops Sun, May 9, 2010 7:05:26pm |
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HoosierHoops Sun, May 9, 2010 7:06:44pm |
re: #426 Floral Giraffe
You better NOT have thrown Winston in it yet…
No..He would freeze and get sick..I spoil him..
Hope today finds you well
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 9, 2010 7:08:18pm |
re: #429 HoosierHoops
No..He would freeze and get sick..I spoil him..
Hope today finds you well
LOL! You spoil him, like you deserve to be spoiled!
All is good here! Mom had a super Mother’s Day.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 7:08:43pm |
She founded, and fought, Mother’s Day
Anna Jarvis’ life was consumed by the holiday she started
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Vicious Babushka Sun, May 9, 2010 7:09:12pm |
re: #343 SanFranciscoZionist
I read an interview with the first Beduin woman in Israel to get a doctorate. Apparently, when she went to college, her father came under considerable pressure to remove her from school and get her married.
He told the rest of the tribe to BTFO off, that this was his daughter, and she was going to do what SHE, and not THEY thought was best. There was some muttering and threats, but they backed down.
It’s guys like that who keep progress rolling forward.
FTFY
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Sigma_x Sun, May 9, 2010 7:11:03pm |
NRO’s Judicial Attack Dog Calls Elena Kagan A Prostitute
Ed Whelan, a former law clerk to Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, is at the forefront of the fight against President Obama’s judicial nominees. Writing at National Review Online on May 7, 2010, Whelan attacked Kagan for allowing military recruiters at Harvard Law despite her opposition to “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.”
Whelan wrote:
“But, as George Bernard Shaw would have said to Kagan for selling out her supposedly deeply held principles, “We’ve already established what you are, ma’am. Now we’re just haggling over the price.’”
Stay classy, Republicans!
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 7:11:11pm |
re: #406 lostlakehiker
The question is, which is worse? A ritual pinprick/nick which will be of no lasting consequence, or full-bore the works, as recounted by Ayaan Hirsi Ali? I’m a great believer in mitigation and damage control. Sometimes there is just no way to absolutely and entirely avoid harm. If the harm down one road is less painful than a paper cut, and heals as completely, well? Again, if we had the option to prevent this, that would be best. We just don’t. Or, maybe we do, but the will isn’t there. Either we cannot, or we will not, defend the girl. That’s not how I’d run things but I’m not in charge. Now, from there, with that reality a given, what do you do?
I do not believe that families which would demand ‘the works’ will accept a ritual nick of no consequence. If they did, they’d do it. Certainly, a husband who expects his wife to be fully altered won’t accept “She had a ritual nick!”
I don’t like going down this road at all, certainly not with the blessing of the AAP.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 7:11:40pm |
re: #410 Varek Raith
Bugger, I missed it.
Though, I assume you put that heavy artillery to good use.
:)
Of course. I gave him two full turbolaser broadsides. He was firing very little and leaking atmosphere as he retreated. Hopefully his hyperdrive failed before he got back to normal space.
/Stay on Target!
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 7:11:43pm |
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Killgore Trout Sun, May 9, 2010 7:12:16pm |
Big garbanzo is ripping us off!
Lebanon fires latest salvo in hummus battle with Israel
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 7:12:33pm |
re: #432 Alouette
FTFY
Well, yes, but I don’t think that’s how a Beduin dad facing down his cousins put it!!
:)
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Killgore Trout Sun, May 9, 2010 7:13:15pm |
re: #436 SanFranciscoZionist
No, but he did refer to the POTUS as ‘Obango’.
…and the Tea Baggers still complain about being labeled as racist.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, May 9, 2010 7:13:24pm |
re: #437 Killgore Trout
Big garbanzo is ripping us off!
Lebanon fires latest salvo in hummus battle with Israel
Buy the LGF Cookbook Vol. 2 for my super homemade authentic Israeli falafel recipe!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 7:14:01pm |
re: #433 Sigma_x
NRO’s Judicial Attack Dog Calls Elena Kagan A Prostitute
Ed Whelan, a former law clerk to Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, is at the forefront of the fight against President Obama’s judicial nominees. Writing at National Review Online on May 7, 2010, Whelan attacked Kagan for allowing military recruiters at Harvard Law despite her opposition to “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.”
Whelan wrote:
“But, as George Bernard Shaw would have said to Kagan for selling out her supposedly deeply held principles, “We’ve already established what you are, ma’am. Now we’re just haggling over the price.’”
Stay classy, Republicans!
Politicians and political appointees are often compared to whores. Whelan’s words are fairly normal, actually.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 9, 2010 7:14:08pm |
re: #437 Killgore Trout
Big garbanzo is ripping us off!
Lebanon fires latest salvo in hummus battle with Israel
Beans!
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 7:14:20pm |
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McSpiff Sun, May 9, 2010 7:14:41pm |
OT, but I’m using my iphone to stream my local radio station over the net. I can’t decide if technology is amazing or horrible… But it sure is damn cool.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 9, 2010 7:15:18pm |
re: #435 Dark_Falcon
Of course. I gave him two full turbolaser broadsides. He was firing very little and leaking atmosphere as he retreated. Hopefully his hyperdrive failed before he got back to normal space.
/Stay on Target!
The grill awaits his 2 AM flounce!
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HoosierHoops Sun, May 9, 2010 7:15:51pm |
re: #430 Floral Giraffe
LOL! You spoil him, like you deserve to be spoiled!
All is good here! Mom had a super Mother’s Day.
That’s awesome! I put my mom in first billing this morning on the Prayer List..
She was a wonderful person.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 9, 2010 7:16:05pm |
re: #444 McSpiff
OT, but I’m using my iphone to stream my local radio station over the net. I can’t decide if technology is amazing or horrible… But it sure is damn cool.
It’s contagious!
| 448 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 7:17:03pm |
re: #439 Killgore Trout
…and the Tea Baggers still complain about being labeled as racist.
This guy was quite mad about being thought a racist, actually.
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 7:18:01pm |
re: #448 SanFranciscoZionist
This guy was quite mad about being thought a racist, actually.
And this was his story of how he came up with the name “Obango”
Just lovely isn’t it?
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McSpiff Sun, May 9, 2010 7:18:24pm |
re: #448 SanFranciscoZionist
This guy was quite mad about being thought a racist, actually.
I honestly do wonder if some of them don’t realize that they are indeed racist.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, May 9, 2010 7:19:22pm |
re: #449 jamesfirecat
And this was his story of how he came up with the name “Obango”
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
Just lovely isn’t it?
I think that comment needs to be down pounded until Annefrance’s record is broken.
| 453 |
freetoken Sun, May 9, 2010 7:20:09pm |
re: #443 Varek Raith
The RR are having kittens over her… they just can’t seem to understand why someone would think that a person being homosexual is not a beastly abomination.
| 454 |
jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 7:20:35pm |
re: #451 Alouette
I think that comment needs to be down pounded until Annefrance’s record is broken.
Well I’ve already done my part for the great ding…
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 7:22:43pm |
re: #451 Alouette
I think that comment needs to be down pounded until Annefrance’s record is broken.
I just added to it. Heh.
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Killgore Trout Sun, May 9, 2010 7:22:44pm |
re: #440 Alouette
Buy the LGF Cookbook Vol. 2 for my super homemade authentic Israeli falafel recipe!
Yeehaw!
| 457 |
darthstar Sun, May 9, 2010 7:24:29pm |
Had lunch with my mother, father, brother & his family and my wife today…was quite nice…two dozen oysters, three bottles of Artessa chardonnay, calamari, escargot…and then, of course, there was lunch. Money well spent, and mom enjoyed her day.
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HoosierHoops Sun, May 9, 2010 7:27:45pm |
re: #451 Alouette
I think that comment needs to be down pounded until Annefrance’s record is broken.
Nah..It’s not a hall of fame downdingable comment…Anne was an all time classic..That was just a run of the mill shit comment..
Hey! your Chicken Shwarma in the cookbook looks yummy!
| 460 |
albusteve Sun, May 9, 2010 7:27:46pm |
hi Mom!
happy Mothers Day!!!
(I don’t think she’s listening)
| 461 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 7:27:58pm |
| 462 |
Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 7:28:49pm |
re: #458 brookly red
calamari, grilled, sautéed or fried?
Just don’t order calamari around Admiral Ackbar!
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sagehen Sun, May 9, 2010 7:28:55pm |
re: #443 Varek Raith
Princeton undergrad, Harvard Law. And a Dean at Harvard.
Can I just say there’s too many Harvard/Yale on that bench? There’s another dozen law schools in the T14; some very fine schools that aren’t T14; and a number of very fine attorneys and judges have even come from 2nd tier schools.
I’m afraid this is telling our children that if they don’t get into an Ivy their lives are permanently constrained, they can never reach the top rung of their professions.
That’s not the message I want to send to 18-year-olds.
| 464 |
Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 7:29:16pm |
re: #460 albusteve
hi Mom!
happy Mothers Day!!!
(I don’t think she’s listening)
Hey, Steve!
What’s up?
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albusteve Sun, May 9, 2010 7:29:53pm |
re: #461 Cannadian Club Akbar
In Florida, it’s called “bait”. :)
and barely…anyone who would eat that shit needs their hat loosened
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brookly red Sun, May 9, 2010 7:30:03pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 9, 2010 7:30:36pm |
From an interview with Lucianne Goldberg…
The state of the GOP. Your thoughts.I ‘m waiting for some of our heroes…I mean REAL men and women…to get back from the war zones and start to rumble. That is where the next wave of GOP leaders is coming from. Can’t wait.
I do like that answer!
| 468 |
albusteve Sun, May 9, 2010 7:31:56pm |
re: #464 Varek Raith
Hey, Steve!
What’s up?
down time…finally wheeled into ABQ about 6….time to drink
| 469 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 7:32:11pm |
| 470 |
Eclectic Infidel Sun, May 9, 2010 7:32:45pm |
re: #20 Alouette
My daughter gave birth to the fattest. baby. ever.
12 lbs. I do not know how she got that thing through her.
You know, I don’t have a birth canal but just reading that made me flinch.
| 471 |
jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 7:33:24pm |
re: #467 Floral Giraffe
From an interview with Lucianne Goldberg…
I do like that answer!
My translation?
All our current presidential candidates are unlikeable f***bends so we need someone who people will salute and vote for automatically! That’s how we broke our streak of loosing six elections straight in the 30-50’s!
| 472 |
albusteve Sun, May 9, 2010 7:33:59pm |
re: #470 eclectic infidel
You know, I don’t have a birth canal but just reading that made me flinch.
Boone and Crockett
fer sure
| 473 |
Nimed Sun, May 9, 2010 7:34:28pm |
re: #467 Floral Giraffe
From an interview with Lucianne Goldberg…
The state of the GOP. Your thoughts.
I ‘m waiting for some of our heroes…I mean REAL men and women…to get back from the war zones and start to rumble. That is where the next wave of GOP leaders is coming from. Can’t wait.
I do like that answer!
What I like about that answer is that she implicitly calls her own son a chicken hawk.
| 474 |
Nimed Sun, May 9, 2010 7:36:31pm |
re: #467 Floral Giraffe
From an interview with Lucianne Goldberg…
The state of the GOP. Your thoughts.
I ‘m waiting for some of our heroes…I mean REAL men and women…to get back from the war zones and start to rumble. That is where the next wave of GOP leaders is coming from. Can’t wait.
I do like that answer!
Also, if that’s her criterion, I wonder if she voted for Kerry in 2004.
| 475 |
HoosierHoops Sun, May 9, 2010 7:36:39pm |
| 476 |
brookly red Sun, May 9, 2010 7:41:55pm |
re: #467 Floral Giraffe
From an interview with Lucianne Goldberg…
I do like that answer!
like I have said before the next wave of GOP candidates are names we have not heard of as of yet.
| 477 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 7:42:24pm |
| 478 |
Nimed Sun, May 9, 2010 7:46:12pm |
re: #476 brookly red
like I have said before the next wave of GOP candidates are names we have not heard of as of yet.
I think so too. But what about 2012? A candidate needs some name recognition, he can’t just show up out of the blue.
This is the GOP playing field for the next presidential election. There may be a dark horse or two missing, but chances are the next candidate is coming from this graph.
| 479 |
Oh no...Sand People! Sun, May 9, 2010 7:48:22pm |
To any lurkers and lizard mothers, “Happy Mothers Day!”
Mom’s rule.
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brookly red Sun, May 9, 2010 7:48:25pm |
re: #478 Nimed
I think so too. But what about 2012? A candidate needs some name recognition, he can’t just show up out of the blue.
This is the GOP playing field for the next presidential election. There may be a dark horse or two missing, but chances are the next candidate is coming from this graph.
who had more name recognition? Clinton or Obama? In today’s climate name recognition is not a plus.
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sagehen Sun, May 9, 2010 7:50:12pm |
re: #471 jamesfirecat
My translation?
All our current presidential candidates are unlikeable f***bends so we need someone who people will salute and vote for automatically! That’s how we broke our streak of loosing six elections straight in the 30-50’s!
If they could find an Eisenhower analogue for a new generation, I’d vote for him.
| 482 |
sagehen Sun, May 9, 2010 7:51:13pm |
re: #478 Nimed
I think so too. But what about 2012? A candidate needs some name recognition, he can’t just show up out of the blue.
This is the GOP playing field for the next presidential election. There may be a dark horse or two missing, but chances are the next candidate is coming from this graph.
The GOP’s 2012 candidate is going to be a sacrificial lamb; figure less than 100 electoral votes.
| 483 |
Nimed Sun, May 9, 2010 7:51:36pm |
re: #480 brookly red
who had more name recognition? Clinton or Obama? In today’s climate name recognition is not a plus.
Right, Obama was behind Clinton, Edwards and even Biden in the beginning. But there were lots of people throwing around his name since his twin speeches - against going to war with Iraq and in the 2004 Democratic National Convention. In my opinion, he wouldn’t stand a chance without it.
Who do you think stands a chance in 2004 besides those names? 2 years and 6 months left…
| 484 |
brookly red Sun, May 9, 2010 7:53:23pm |
re: #483 Nimed
Right, Obama was behind Clinton, Edwards and even Biden in the beginning. But there were lots of people throwing around his name since his twin speeches - against going to war with Iraq and in the 2004 Democratic National Convention. In my opinion, he wouldn’t stand a chance without it.
Who do you think stands a chance in 2004 besides those names? 2 years and 6 months left…
as I said we have not heard their name as of yet…
| 485 |
Nimed Sun, May 9, 2010 7:55:04pm |
re: #482 sagehen
The GOP’s 2012 candidate is going to be a sacrificial lamb; figure less than 100 electoral votes.
Maybe (less than 100 electoral votes is very, very hard). Depends on way too much stuff that will happen in between. Unemployment, another major terrorist attack, some scandal in the WH, etc.
| 486 |
sagehen Sun, May 9, 2010 7:55:31pm |
re: #483 Nimed
re: #483 Nimed
I watched Meet the Press right after that keynote speech, the panel was gushing over Obama like a bunch of 12-year-old fangirls. Margaret Carlson literally squeed “A Star is born, OMG!!”
Finding Obama for that speech, and knocking more than ten years off his career trajectory (he’d otherwise have looked to maybe 2020 or 2024 before he’d have been ready to run for president) is the greatest service John Kerry ever did for this nation.
| 487 |
Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 7:56:20pm |
I think the GOP is just gonna flounce in 2012.
;)
| 488 |
albusteve Sun, May 9, 2010 7:57:11pm |
re: #485 Nimed
Maybe (less than 100 electoral votes is very, very hard). Depends on way too much stuff that will happen in between. Unemployment, another major terrorist attack, some scandal in the WH, etc.
predicting candidates is out the door since BO…the GOP will trot out some nobody who is equal to BOs rep in every way…if he can win it, anybody can, even you
| 489 |
brookly red Sun, May 9, 2010 7:57:31pm |
re: #487 Varek Raith
I think the GOP is just gonna flounce in 2012.
;)
well maybe you need to get out more often?
| 490 |
jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 7:57:33pm |
re: #487 Varek Raith
I think the GOP is just gonna flounce in 2012.
;)
What are they gonna take their money and move to Dubai or something?
| 491 |
brookly red Sun, May 9, 2010 7:59:55pm |
re: #488 albusteve
predicting candidates is out the door since BO…the GOP will trot out some nobody who is equal to BOs rep in every way…if he can win it, anybody can, even you
well yes, Obama ran on “I am not Bush”… the next election will be a referendum on Obama, at the moment his poll numbers are not so hot.
| 492 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 9, 2010 8:00:15pm |
re: #467 Floral Giraffe
From an interview with Lucianne Goldberg…
I do like that answer!
I think the best part of her answer, is that she’s NOT a Sarah Palin fan!
(And her website is COVERED in Teaparty people!)
| 493 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, May 9, 2010 8:00:25pm |
Just for this Mother’s Day thread…
I just called my mother (my church runs exactly oppositie of hers). I had to call back after my youngest sister got off the phone, and then I was bumped when my youngest brother showed up at the door.
Who do they think they are, taking up my mother’s time on Mother’s Day?
| 494 |
Cato the Elder Sun, May 9, 2010 8:00:38pm |
Mom’s Day at Cato’s ancestral demesne:
Mom just turned 2,576. She still insists on cooking dinner for the family. Dad’s only role is firing the braziers for the meat.
Mom combines Mother’s Day with her birthday, and asks for no more stuff in her life. Still, her seven-year-old granddaughter brings her a present, and I go early to mow the lawn and trim the trees, under Dad’s careful eye.
And halfway through the dinner she gets a new silk shawl woven by Afghani women halfway around the world, women, like her, who are free to make their own choices. And tears come to her eyes, and I put the shawl over my head and pretend to be a soothsayer, and everybody from my niece to my dad laughs until the cheesecake comes out, and coffee, and there’s a toast: “Seventy-six years now have passed, one hundred more until the last.”
Cent’ anni to all the mothers!
| 495 |
Nimed Sun, May 9, 2010 8:01:22pm |
re: #488 albusteve
predicting candidates is out the door since BO…the GOP will trot out some nobody who is equal to BOs rep in every way…if he can win it, anybody can, even you
Atheist, single - don’t stand a chance in either party.
Seriously, BO didn’t come that out of left field (no pun intended) in the Democratic party.
The closest thing I see to BO in the GOP is Paul Ryan, but I don’t think he has a chance because of the GOP demographics.
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 8:01:58pm |
re: #491 brookly red
well yes, Obama ran on “I am not Bush”… the next election will be a referendum on Obama, at the moment his poll numbers are not so hot.
Remember some of his “bad” numbers are liberals who want him to be more liberal and will vote for him in a heart beat over whoever the GOP puts forward.
| 497 |
Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 8:02:41pm |
re: #489 brookly red
well maybe you need to get out more often?
Dammit, Jim! I’m a doctor not a comedian!
/Joke fail.
:)
| 498 |
brookly red Sun, May 9, 2010 8:04:39pm |
re: #496 jamesfirecat
Remember some of his “bad” numbers are liberals who want him to be more liberal and will vote for him in a heart beat over whoever the GOP puts forward.
that is true, for better or worse it will as it always does come down to the economy.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 8:08:46pm |
re: #496 jamesfirecat
Remember some of his “bad” numbers are liberals who want him to be more liberal and will vote for him in a heart beat over whoever the GOP puts forward.
But if they are frustrated enough, they might stay home. Managing one’s base is a tricky science.
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brookly red Sun, May 9, 2010 8:11:36pm |
re: #499 Dark_Falcon
But if they are frustrated enough, they might stay home. Managing one’s base is a tricky science.
if the unemployment figures don’t improve by millions & millions of jobs no incumbent of any party is re-electable. and that is that.
| 501 |
Mark Pennington Sun, May 9, 2010 8:13:41pm |
re: #457 darthstar
Had lunch with my mother, father, brother & his family and my wife today…was quite nice…two dozen oysters, three bottles of Artessa chardonnay, calamari, escargot…and then, of course, there was lunch. Money well spent, and mom enjoyed her day.
Sounds very nice, darthstar. I’m about to pop from all the food today. We had brunch with my wife’s family. We had cafe con leche, Cuban bread, ham croquetas and 2 Spanish style omelettes. One was made with sweet plantains in it and the other one was ham and cheese.
Then we grilled steaks by the pool at my parent’s house. Very nice day, indeed.
| 502 |
jamesfirecat Sun, May 9, 2010 8:18:16pm |
re: #500 brookly red
if the unemployment figures don’t improve by millions & millions of jobs no incumbent of any party is re-electable. and that is that.
I bet they GOP said the same thing about FDR in 1935.
So long as the job numbers keep trending up (which they have been in March and April) then Obama will be sitting pretty even if we’re still down a few million jobs…
| 503 |
brookly red Sun, May 9, 2010 8:19:58pm |
re: #502 jamesfirecat
I bet they GOP said the same thing about FDR in 1935.
So long as the job numbers keep trending up (which they have been in March and April) then Obama will be sitting pretty even if we’re still down a few million jobs…
I guess we shall see when the time comes.
| 504 |
Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sun, May 9, 2010 8:21:37pm |
I just got back from taking my wife, my daughter and my grandson out to supper for Mom’s day. Boy did we pig out.
And to my mom - Mom, you just missed seeing your first great-grandson by one year. He’s turning into one great teenager. I’m sorry you missed it.
| 506 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 8:30:26pm |
re: #500 brookly red
if the unemployment figures don’t improve by millions & millions of jobs no incumbent of any party is re-electable. and that is that.
True that.
| 507 |
jvic Sun, May 9, 2010 8:33:11pm |
re: #463 sagehen
Princeton undergrad, Harvard Law. And a Dean at Harvard.
Can I just say there’s too many Harvard/Yale on that bench? There’s another dozen law schools in the T14; some very fine schools that aren’t T14; and a number of very fine attorneys and judges have even come from 2nd tier schools.
I’m afraid this is telling our children that if they don’t get into an Ivy their lives are permanently constrained, they can never reach the top rung of their professions.
That’s not the message I want to send to 18-year-olds.
Couldn’t agree more. In an open society, a college acceptance letter should not lock (just about all) people into a track for life. (Iirc I viewed Kagan as a superior alternative to Sotomayor, and I’ll stand by that.)
*** *** *** *** *** ***
Supposedly Kagan was known as being fair to the conservative student minority at Harvard Law. Since we have troops fighting abroad and the home front is vulnerable, her attitude toward the military is important to me: see this and this for opposing interpretations.
Btw, my respect for Glenn Reynolds has ratcheted down another notch: he presented under his own byline, i.e. without quotes, Peter Beinart’s materially incorrect statement that Obama’s potential Supreme Court pick banned military recruiting at Harvard Law (link is to Google cache).
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