Video: Meet the Supporters of Gov. Rick Perry’s Prayer Rally
It’s a kookfest!
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(h/t: Right Wing Watch.)
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Spocomptonite Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:54:57pm |
I turned to Mecca and prayed to Allah just like Perry asked me to.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:56:18pm |
I really hate when people scream in the name of Jesus.
Actually, I just dislike screaming, but when you read the New Testament, it's hard to imagine Him screaming.
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Spocomptonite Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:57:11pm |
And now I'm going to make some holy Pastafarian spaghetti as an offering to The Flying Spaghetti Monster.
(Oh, what's that, Perry? You didn't mean those gods?)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:57:16pm |
I think they missed this guy...
C. Peter Wagner: Japan Is Cursed Because The Emperor Had Sex With A Demon
C. Peter Wagner, an endorser of Gov. Rick Perry's "The Response" prayer rally, explains that the nation of Japan is controlled by a demon spirit (The Sun Goddess) because the Emperor had sexual intercourse with her.
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Only The Lurker Knows Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:59:53pm |
re: #4 EmmmieG
I really hate when people scream in the name of Jesus.
Actually, I just dislike screaming, but when you read the New Testament, it's hard to imagine Him screaming.
Mayhap I am wrong, being an atheist and all, but didn't jesus say it was better to pray in private than speak out on the corner about how pious you were?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:00:12pm |
re: #6 Slumbering Behemoth
I think they missed this guy...
C. Peter Wagner: Japan Is Cursed Because The Emperor Had Sex With A Demon
[Video]
Was she the goddess of cute little things? The Japanese are masters of adorable cute little things.
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darthstar Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:00:25pm |
re: #2 Bubblehead II
And they got how much rain?
One of my facebook "friends" (just someone I know barely) in Texas was complaining about the size of the hail they got in a hail storm just after the three day prayer fest...I responded that they were my fault. I really didn't think god was listening to all those prayers so I said, "Please pelt those ungrateful fuckers with golf ball sized hail" and apparently he thought it was a good idea.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:00:32pm |
Honestly, I worry less about the praying out loud and more about when the praying stops and the "converting" begins.
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elizajane Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:01:13pm |
Is there a secret Republican Party competition to find the nuttiest possible person to run for president? Because otherwise sane commentators have been saying what a perfect choice Perry could be, and I cannot think of any other criteria for which he'd be "perfect."
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:01:22pm |
re: #9 EmmmieG
Was she the goddess of cute little things? The Japanese are masters of adorable cute little things.
Nah, a Sun Goddess. Still makes me wish I was an emperor.
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:02:58pm |
re: #6 Slumbering Behemoth
I think they missed this guy...
C. Peter Wagner: Japan Is Cursed Because The Emperor Had Sex With A Demon
[Video]
I think I saw a Henti about that once...
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Spocomptonite Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:03:02pm |
I think it's time I re-watched Jesus Camp.
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:05:21pm |
re: #16 Spocomptonite
I think it's time I re-watched Jesus Camp.
That was a disturbing documentary. Some rather ardent atheists consider rearing a child in such an environment to be reminiscent of child abuse. I scoff at such comparisons but sometimes I wonder.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:05:27pm |
re: #1 darthstar
Hey, they're all white! What a coincidence!
Actually one of them is black. (Noted for accuracy.)
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darthstar Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:07:15pm |
re: #18 Dark_Falcon
Actually one of them is black. (Noted for accuracy.)
Well, that fixes everything!
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Only The Lurker Knows Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:08:48pm |
re: #10 darthstar
Should have asked for Golf Soft ball size stones. Might have actually gotten their attention.
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jvic Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:09:06pm |
1. Any Republican whom the Bushes can't stand is off to a great start with me, but this is beyond the pale. It is worse than the worst I had imagined.
2. The danger is that something--terrorism, natural disaster, sovereign default, etc.--will make the economy so bad that the voters won't care about anything else.
3. The right blogosphere keeps talking about the terrific Texas economy: supposedly half the nation's new jobs are being created in Texas because of Perry. Any deconstruction of that narrative?
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darthstar Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:09:12pm |
re: #18 Dark_Falcon
Actually one of them is black. (Noted for accuracy.)
Truth be told, I didn't watch the video...I just assumed they were all white. You're free to think less of me.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:09:20pm |
re: #19 darthstar
Well, that fixes everything!
No, I just noted it to be accurate. I am somewhat fixated on accuracy and precision. It runs in my family, my father, his father, and all his brothers are (or were) the same way.
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albusteve Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:10:11pm |
re: #22 darthstar
Truth be told, I didn't watch the video...I just assumed they were all white. You're free to think less of me.
how is that possible?
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darthstar Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:10:42pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:10:55pm |
re: #22 darthstar
Truth be told, I didn't watch the video...I just assumed they were all white. You're free to think less of me.
Assumption is the father of Failure.
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darthstar Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:11:51pm |
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:13:07pm |
re: #27 darthstar
I fucked Failure's sister once...Trust.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:14:02pm |
re: #21 jvic
1. Any Republican whom the Bushes can't stand is off to a great start with me, but this is beyond the pale. It is worse than the worst I had imagined.
2. The danger is that something--terrorism, natural disaster, sovereign default, etc.--will make the economy so bad that the voters won't care about anything else.
3. The right blogosphere keeps talking about the terrific Texas economy: supposedly half the nation's new jobs are being created in Texas because of Perry. Any deconstruction of that narrative?
Commie Bloomberg:
Closer Look Proves the Texas Path to Job Growth Isn’t Best: View
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]
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darthstar Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:14:28pm |
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CuriousLurker Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:15:17pm |
Gah, these people are detestable snakes in the grass.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:15:41pm |
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Iwouldprefernotto Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:16:55pm |
Does he really think that this is going to help him get elected president?
It's not even close to being in the center.
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darthstar Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:18:33pm |
re: #31 CuriousLurker
Gah, these people are detestable snakes in the grass.
[Video]
I like Tom T Hall, but I resent the bad rap snakes get. Of course they're in the grass...they're snakes!
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:18:50pm |
re: #27 darthstar
I fucked Failure's sister once...Trust.
Once was enough. She had a baby and named him Fuck-Up after you. >:D
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:20:22pm |
re: #36 Dark_Falcon
Once was enough. She had a baby and named him Fuck-Up after you. >:D
That was only because they were in the reverse cowboy position.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:20:30pm |
re: #33 Iwouldprefernotto
Does he really think that this is going to help him get elected president?
It's not even close to being in the center.
I'm not so sure that the GOP is worried about reaching the center this election. From all appearances, they've decided to try to drag the center the right by causing the economy to implode and then working to blame it on Obama. They seem to have decided that they can't get anybody to vote for them, so they'll just get everybody to vote against Obama.
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albusteve Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:20:37pm |
re: #36 Dark_Falcon
Once was enough. She had a baby and named him Fuck-Up after you. >:D
and there were cousins...
Fuck Over and
Fuck With
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darthstar Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:21:11pm |
re: #37 Slumbering Behemoth
That was only because they were in the reverse cowboy position.
We only called it "Cowboy" position because I convinced her that eight seconds was a long ride.
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albusteve Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:21:47pm |
re: #37 Slumbering Behemoth
That was only because they were in the reverse cowboy position.
that's called the Romo Buckeroo
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:22:24pm |
re: #39 albusteve
and there were cousins...
Fuck Over and
Fuck With
Word to the wise: don't fuck over Fuck With, and definitely don't fuck with Fuck Over.
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darthstar Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:22:52pm |
re: #41 albusteve
that's called the Romo Buckeroo
We'll have to discuss your familiarity with obscure sexual positions at a later date...time for me to whip up some saffron aoli while my wife sears scallops.
Laters.
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albusteve Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:25:22pm |
re: #43 darthstar
We'll have to discuss your familiarity with obscure sexual positions at a later date...time for me to whip up some saffron aoli while my wife sears scallops.
Laters.
it's true...Romo was my bitch and everything he learned ended up on Leno...I'm nationwide
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BongCrodny Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:25:45pm |
Bryan Fischer:
"Liberals hate God. Liberals hate religion. Liberals hate faith. Liberals hate Christianity."
I think Fischer's confusing "hate" with "would prefer that the country is not run by..."
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What, me worry? Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:26:10pm |
re: #40 darthstar
We only called it "Cowboy" position because I convinced her that eight seconds was a long ride.
You should be careful with the Big Sleepy. His pen is mightier than his sword.
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jaunte Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:26:42pm |
Rick Perry has the oily false sincerity of the true scumbag.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:28:54pm |
re: #48 jaunte
Rick Perry has the oily false sincerity of the true scumbag.
He's a bit skeevy, ain't he.
I'm a little freaked out about the Holocaust dude. Can't say I've heard of him before.
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researchok Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:30:16pm |
re: #49 marjoriemoon
He's a bit skeevy, ain't he.
I'm a little freaked out about the Holocaust dude. Can't say I've heard of him before.
Who/what was the Holocaust dude?
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jvic Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:30:44pm |
re: #48 jaunte
Rick Perry has the oily false sincerity of the true scumbag.
I wish. He looks sincere to me.
He's a natural to play O'Brien in a remake of 1984.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:31:25pm |
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researchok Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:32:08pm |
Which video (go easy on me, I just got here. I was away all day)?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:32:41pm |
re: #53 jvic
I wish. He looks sincere to me.
He's a natural to play O'Brien in a remake of 1984.
Explain. (I really wish Walter was here for this one.)
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researchok Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:33:43pm |
re: #48 jaunte
Rick Perry has the oily false sincerity of the true scumbag.
That's true. He is an opportunist and no more.
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bratwurst Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:34:26pm |
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Lidane Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:34:47pm |
re: #33 Iwouldprefernotto
Does he really think that this is going to help him get elected president?
It's not even close to being in the center.
In this state? Perry's practically a filthy librul compared to some of the freaks in office around here.
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albusteve Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:35:03pm |
why does God hate ZZ Top?...
that's going to far man
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researchok Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:35:24pm |
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jaunte Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:35:48pm |
re: #53 jvic
I think the Holocaust dude was sincere and deluded, but i do think Perry is just an extremely cynical pol. He's been doing more to intentionally appeal to radical right conservatives as he's deciding he has a shot at running for President.
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Interesting Times Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:36:18pm |
re: #59 Lidane
In this state? Perry's practically a filthy librul compared to some of the freaks in office around here.
How did things in Texas degenerate to such a point?
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Lidane Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:36:59pm |
re: #38 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
They seem to have decided that they can't get anybody to vote for them, so they'll just get everybody to vote against Obama.
The GOP's been doing that since Clinton. They couldn't get anyone to vote FOR Bush I because of the whole "Read My Lips, No New Taxes" thing and Ross Perot's personal grudge, so they just campaigned AGAINST Clinton.
It's been the Republican MO ever since.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:37:14pm |
re: #46 BongCrodny
Bryan Fischer:
I think Fischer's confusing "hate" with "would prefer that the country is not run by..."
He's also confused in the fact that he thinks only liberals feel that way.
Oh that's right, I forgot. You're not a Real ConservativeTM unless you cow-tow to the reactionary, religious right./
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:37:33pm |
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jaunte Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:37:40pm |
re: #63 publicityStunted
I don't think things have degenerated. It's just easier to find out about now.
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albusteve Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:38:12pm |
re: #63 publicityStunted
How did things in Texas degenerate to such a point?
that's what I'm trying to figure....ZZ Top is a Texas icon
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Lidane Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:38:12pm |
re: #63 publicityStunted
How did things in Texas degenerate to such a point?
I've been asking myself that for the last 20 years. I have no idea.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:38:16pm |
re: #64 Lidane
The GOP's been doing that since Clinton. They couldn't get anyone to vote FOR Bush I because of the whole "Read My Lips, No New Taxes" thing and Ross Perot's personal grudge, so they just campaigned AGAINST Clinton.
It's been the Republican MO ever since.
It's also what the Dems did in 2006-2008. They ran on "Not Bush" and "Change!".
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Digital Display Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:38:19pm |
Final round of the Home run derby is on.. It was been really good this year..It's a summertime tradition.. I'll do an All Star page Tuesday
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What, me worry? Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:38:55pm |
re: #58 bratwurst
This asshole:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Yea, I was just reading about him. I did hear the name before.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:39:17pm |
re: #47 marjoriemoon
This is my pen. There are many like it but this one is mine.
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researchok Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:39:25pm |
re: #62 jaunte
I think the Holocaust dude was sincere and deluded, but i do think Perry is just an extremely cynical pol. He's been doing more to intentionally appeal to radical right conservatives as he's deciding he has a shot at running for President.
Perry is doing whatever he has to do to win the daily beauty contest.
Agree with W or disagree, he held to real beliefs. He didn't pander- which is one of the reasons the wingnuts abandoned him.
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Lidane Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:40:06pm |
re: #68 albusteve
that's what I'm trying to figure...ZZ Top is a Texas icon
So were SRV and Buddy Holly.
I'm just as confused as anyone else how the hell this state got so thoroughly filled with Republican fail.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:40:31pm |
re: #55 researchok
Which video (go easy on me, I just got here. I was away all day)?
(Look up, up, up). (I'm gonna make ya figure it out.)
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researchok Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:41:44pm |
re: #76 marjoriemoon
(Look up, up, up). (I'm gonna make ya figure it out.)
Found em on youtube, smartass.
//
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:42:08pm |
re: #58 bratwurst
This asshole:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
I wish you would tone down your rhetoric a bit. Assholes actually serve a valuable, biological purpose, and I'll not sit idly by while you associate them wish such a vile creature of a man.
/
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Renaissance_Man Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:43:53pm |
re: #74 researchok
Perry is doing whatever he has to do to win the daily beauty contest.
Agree with W or disagree, he held to real beliefs. He didn't pander- which is one of the reasons the wingnuts abandoned him.
Actually, I think it's more that he didn't hate liberals or Democrats.
That's the value that the current media-driven cult really holds dearest, and what they really want to see out of their leaders - someone who will really give voice to the same anger and hate they feel. Their media demagogues do, and in recent years the intensity has been significantly ramped up by the cult media, so now they demand it out of all their leaders.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:43:54pm |
re: #74 researchok
Perry is doing whatever he has to do to win the daily beauty contest.
Agree with W or disagree, he held to real beliefs. He didn't pander- which is one of the reasons the wingnuts abandoned him.
It was more that he was both tainted and content to fade into the background. When George W. Bush left office, he left public life. He's a quiet private person and is content to live as he is living. He also knows that if he were to take any visible role in anything the Democrats would use him as a lightning rod again.
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Lidane Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:46:15pm |
re: #74 researchok
Perry is doing whatever he has to do to win the daily beauty contest.
Agree with W or disagree, he held to real beliefs. He didn't pander- which is one of the reasons the wingnuts abandoned him.
W didn't pander? LOL forever. Of course he pandered. They all pander to one degree or another.
W's sin in the end was not being as much of a bugfuck insane wingnut as the rest of them. I disagreed with damn near everything he stood for. I would've eaten glass before I would've considered voting for him. He's STILL saner than the rest of the freaks in the Texas GOP, including Goodhair.
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:47:56pm |
re: #80 Dark_Falcon
It was more that he was both tainted and content to fade into the background. When George W. Bush left office, he left public life. He's a quiet private person and is content to live as he is living. He also knows that if he were to take any visible role in anything the Democrats would use him as a lightning rod again.
If only Sarah Palin would learn a lesson from him...
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:49:27pm |
re: #80 Dark_Falcon
It was more that he was both tainted and content to fade into the background. When George W. Bush left office, he left public life. He's a quiet private person and is content to live as he is living. He also knows that if he were to take any visible role in anything the Democrats would use him as a lightning rod again.
That, and he likely doesn't want any kind of association with the Teahadi cult the GOP has turned into.
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researchok Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:50:11pm |
re: #80 Dark_Falcon
It was more that he was both tainted and content to fade into the background. When George W. Bush left office, he left public life. He's a quiet private person and is content to live as he is living. He also knows that if he were to take any visible role in anything the Democrats would use him as a lightning rod again.
It's more than that.
W was far more socially aware than his critics.
He really fought for better education for minorities for example, (recall 'The soft bigotry of lowered expectations) and as a result, he garnered great segments of minority votes in his reelection campaign.
He was far more religiously tolerant than the current crop of GOP nobodies. He never wore his religion on his sleeve.
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Only The Lurker Knows Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:50:22pm |
Well it looks like my disbelief in the Great Lord Gravel has come back to haunt me. Despite a bottle of Flow Easy Drain Opener (Virgin Sulfuric Acid) it now looks like I have to break the drain line for the Kitchen sink and snake the line out tomorrow morning. Thankfully, My trusty Black and Decker Wet and Dy Shop Vac has allowed me to drain both sinks prior to this evolution.
On the plus side, A friend of mine gave me some home made venison, cheddar and jalapenoe brautes that I can cook tomorrow after I get the daily chores done. This in itself should be interesting. Fry or Grill? That is the question. Friend says Grill. What say you Lizards?
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darthstar Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:50:26pm |
re: #80 Dark_Falcon
It was more that he was both tainted and content to fade into the background. When George W. Bush left office, he left public life. He's a quiet private person and is content to live as he is living. He also knows that if he were to take any visible role in anything the Democrats would use him as a lightning rod again.
You know, Sam, sometimes I think I love you.
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researchok Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:50:34pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:51:05pm |
re: #82 jamesfirecat
If only Sarah Palin would learn a lesson from him...
She still wants attention, while W. is done wanting it. They're at different stages of their lives and careers.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:53:34pm |
re: #4 EmmmieG
I really hate when people scream in the name of Jesus.
Actually, I just dislike screaming, but when you read the New Testament, it's hard to imagine Him screaming.
OTC, plenty of conservative bigots luvvv Violent, Screaming Butch-Top Jesus. He turns bankers out temples. With a whip!
[Link: bible.cc...]
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researchok Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:53:50pm |
re: #81 Lidane
W didn't pander? LOL forever. Of course he pandered. They all pander to one degree or another.
W's sin in the end was not being as much of a bugfuck insane wingnut as the rest of them. I disagreed with damn near everything he stood for. I would've eaten glass before I would've considered voting for him. He's STILL saner than the rest of the freaks in the Texas GOP, including Goodhair.
I must say I admire your subtlety.
Seriously, Bush was a pretty good Governor overall. The state was growing and he oversaw that, built better schools, etc.
No, he wasn't perfect (who is?) but he did a pretty good job
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:54:03pm |
re: #88 Dark_Falcon
She still wants attention, while W. is done wanting it. They're at different stages of their lives and careers.
Luckily if there's one thing I know about Sarah Palin's career.... it is that we can expect her to quit it halfway through.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:54:18pm |
re: #85 Bubblehead II
I always say grill. Except when I say fry.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:56:29pm |
You know things are bad when today's Republicans evoke nostalgia for W.
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darthstar Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:57:18pm |
re: #85 Bubblehead II
Steam, then grill. You don't want them to dry out, but you do want to carmelize some of the fats under the skin.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:59:06pm |
re: #89 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I had a relative of mine who actually tried to convince me that that was not an act of violence, because Jesus could in no way, shape, or form ever had been violent in his entire, sanctified life.
But I do love it when the Pat Robertsons of the world carry on and on demonizing the modern day "money changers". Anyone who has been to a foreign country and exchanged their currency for that of the local kind has patronized a "money changer".
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:59:30pm |
re: #85 Bubblehead II
On the plus side, A friend of mine gave me some home made venison, cheddar and jalapenoe brautes that I can cook tomorrow after I get the daily chores done. This in itself should be interesting. Fry or Grill? That is the question. Friend says Grill. What say you Lizards?
Boil or steam then grill!
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What, me worry? Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:59:39pm |
re: #89 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
OTC, plenty of conservative bigots luvvv Violent, Screaming Butch-Top Jesus. He turns bankers out temples. With a whip!
[Link: bible.cc...]
The images go from slide to slide. How cool is that?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:59:54pm |
re: #93 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Not great, but still better than Kerry or Gore. Low bar and all that.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:00:13pm |
re: #90 researchok
I must say I admire your subtlety.
Seriously, Bush was a pretty good Governor overall. The state was growing and he oversaw that, built better schools, etc.
No, he wasn't perfect (who is?) but he did a pretty good job
I'll have to go with the glass chewer on this one.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:01:00pm |
re: #98 Slumbering Behemoth
Not great, but still better than Kerry or Gore. Low bar and all that.
Concur. He was basically competent, but not exceptional.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:01:35pm |
re: #85 Bubblehead II
Fry or Grill? That is the question. Friend says Grill. What say you Lizards?
Grill, def.
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Obdicut Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:02:10pm |
re: #98 Slumbering Behemoth
Not great, but still better than Kerry or Gore. Low bar and all that.
No, in retrospect, Gore was the best choice, by spades. We'd be well into doing a ton about global warming by now, if Gore had been elected. He would have addressed the issue head-on.
It's the biggest challenge facing us.
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Only The Lurker Knows Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:02:27pm |
re: #92 Slumbering Behemoth
Well I have NO (0, Nada, Zip) experience with cooking venison (deer).
My Mother (Bless her) sucked at cooking it and more or less turned me off on wild game because She didn't know how to prep/cook it and as a result I really never learned how myself. I am in foreign territory here.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:03:29pm |
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jaunte Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:04:28pm |
re: #21 jvic
3. The right blogosphere keeps talking about the terrific Texas economy: supposedly half the nation's new jobs are being created in Texas because of Perry. Any deconstruction of that narrative?
Here's a little piece of the new jobs picture in Texas that they don't talk about much:
"...two of the state’s biggest employers and campaign contributors depend on immigrant workers. Bob Perry and Bo Pilgrim gave almost $13 million to state candidates and political action committees in the last two election cycles, with Perry contributing the lion’s share. Most of that money went to Republicans. Pilgrim needs immigrants for his Pilgrim’s Pride Corp. chicken factories. Perry depends on immigrants to build houses for Perry Homes."
[Link: www.texasobserver.org...]
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Only The Lurker Knows Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:04:56pm |
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:05:03pm |
re: #104 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Right. Simmer.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:05:21pm |
re: #98 Slumbering Behemoth
Not great, but still better than Kerry or Gore. Low bar and all that.
Impossible to tell. Kerry and Gore lost so we'll never know what kind of pres they would have been.
Shrubya, otoh, no room for guessing there.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:08:53pm |
re: #102 Obdicut
No, in retrospect, Gore was the best choice, by spades. We'd be well into doing a ton about global warming by now, if Gore had been elected. He would have addressed the issue head-on.
It's the biggest challenge facing us.
In perfect conditions, maybe. You do have a point there. But he would have been saddled with the 9/11 terrorist attacks just as Bush was, and I'll wager that would have fucked his whole program up.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:09:06pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:10:50pm |
re: #88 Dark_Falcon
She still wants attention, while W. is done wanting it. They're at different stages of their lives and careers.
Anybody see the latest News Weak?
Groan.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:12:12pm |
re: #108 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Impossible to tell. Kerry and Gore lost so we'll never know what kind of pres they would have been.
Shrubya, otoh, no room for guessing there.
Well, the question with Bush will always be, what would his presidency have looked like without 9/11?
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jvic Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:12:33pm |
re: #56 Dark_Falcon
Explain. (I really wish Walter was here for this one.)
1. It's my visceral impression to the video, DF. Embedded among his cohorts, Perry strikes me as a fanatic: all the more dangerous for his air of hardnosed competence. (In contrast, I perceive Bachmann as fanatical but ditzy, and Palin as a flat-out opportunist. I associate Huckabee with the sleaziness that many here impute to Perry.)
2. I've been reading Charles' posts about Perry's appointments. It seems to me that Perry wouldn't throw that much red meat to religious extremists unless he was one of them.
3. Doublethink: The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.
Consider the sweatshop owner who squeezes every ounce of blood out of his workers while regarding himself as a model Christian. That owner is far less dangerous than the politician who seeks, not money, but transformational power over other people and over society.
4. Palin, Bachmann, Huckabee and their counterparts on the Left worry me not in themselves but in what they could blunder the country into. Seeing Perry face-on, my instinct was This is a dangerous man.
5. As I indicated above, my reaction is visceral. I haven't justified it as well as I'd like, but neither have I talked myself out of it.
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alpuz Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:12:48pm |
re: #75 Lidane
Keep an eye on Wisconsin. Being born and raised here, and living about a quarter of my life around Austin, I'm thinking we're about to see the transformation in real time.
I hope not, but the force is strong.
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Lidane Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:12:56pm |
re: #90 researchok
I must say I admire your subtlety.
Seriously, Bush was a pretty good Governor overall. The state was growing and he oversaw that, built better schools, etc.
No, he wasn't perfect (who is?) but he did a pretty good job
Bush was a terrible governor. Perry's worse. Neither of them were worth a damn because the Texas Governor is little more than a figurehead.
The guy who should get credit for everything W "accomplished" was Bob Bullock.
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Lidane Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:15:47pm |
re: #105 jaunte
Pilgrim needs illegal immigrants for his Pilgrim’s Pride Corp. chicken factories. Perry depends on illegal immigrants to build houses for Perry Homes."
Editing that article for honesty.
And Perry paints himself as tough on immigration? Lawl. He needs illegals just as much as the next rich businessman in this state.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:16:49pm |
re: #112 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, the question with Bush will always be, what would his presidency have looked like without 9/11?
I would say, just as bad minus the excuses.
I do understand there are some Bush loyalists in the press like Parker, Frum, even Rove to an extent -- that really resent what Palin/TP/Bachmann et al have done to their party. But my sympathy for their plight is really, REALLY limited lol
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Gus Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:17:01pm |
re: #6 Slumbering Behemoth
I think they missed this guy...
C. Peter Wagner: Japan Is Cursed Because The Emperor Had Sex With A Demon
[Video]
The man is psycho.
Controversial Spiritual Warfare Against Catholic Saints
In Hard-Core Idolatry – Facing the Facts, Wagner asserted that Catholic saints bring honor to the spirits of darkness, and promoted the burning of their statues in Argentina, which was done. Wagner describes how the Holy Spirit came to his associate, Cindy Jacobs (a prophet in Wagner’s Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders) and “told her that in [the Argentinian city of] Resistencia they must burn the idols, like the magicians did in Ephesus. Ed Silvoso, Cindy Jacobs… …the kinds of material things that might be bringing honor to the spirits of darkness: pictures, statues, Catholic saints, Books of Mormon, pictures of former lovers, pornographic material, fetishes, drugs, Ouija boards, zodiac charms, good luck symbols, crystals for healing, amulets, talismans, tarot cards, witch dolls, voodoo items, love potions, books of magic, totem poles, certain pieces of jewelry, objects of Freemasonry, horoscopes, gargoyles, Native [American] art, foreign souvenirs, and what have you…. the witches and warlocks had surrounded the area and done their occult sacrifices… When the flames shot up, a woman right behind Doris screamed and manifested a demon, which Doris immediately cast out!”
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jaunte Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:17:37pm |
re: #113 jvic
This is one reason I regard Perry as more of an opportunist than a fanatic:
Governor Perry, a Republican, has collected a total of $6.1-million from 97 of the 155 nonstudent board members he has appointed during his 10 years in office. The average campaign contribution by an appointee was $39,251.Some regents gave much more. Of the 16 people the governor has appointed to the Board of Regents of the University of Texas system, 13 donated to his campaign, at an average of $99,301.
[Link: chronicle.com...]
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Lidane Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:18:24pm |
re: #112 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, the question with Bush will always be, what would his presidency have looked like without 9/11?
It would have ended in 2004 because of the Enron scandal, which would have been his albatross.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:18:54pm |
re: #116 Lidane
Editing that article for honesty.
And Perry paints himself as tough on immigration? Lawl. He needs illegals just as much as the next rich businessman in this state.
And no where was that more apparent than the bill that would have made it illegal to knowingly hire an illegal immigrant...at least so long as they aren't a maid or yardman. Probably because if they didn't carve out that exception, the bulk of the state's elite would be behind bars.
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Digital Display Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:19:29pm |
Man I got some good stuff today.. I got this killer glass set.. The coffee table is like 3/4 inch glass with oval stainless steel legs.. Same with the Kitchen table.. All thick glass with stainless steel legs. Real modern shit..
It's pretty cool.. I have to buy chairs to match the table...
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:20:06pm |
re: #114 alpuz
Keep an eye on Wisconsin. Being born and raised here, and living about a quarter of my life around Austin, I'm thinking we're about to see the transformation in real time.
I hope not, but the force is strong.
Walker's no failure, and even Rahm Emmanuel is demanding concessions from the teacher's union. Walker's actions will be remembers well in time, and that time will be soon. Lower taxes, more jobs, and a more flexible government that spends less. What's not to like?
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Only The Lurker Knows Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:21:14pm |
re: #110 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Sounds good. But I warn you, my first attempts at a new meal more often than not have the habit of turning into an unmitigated disaster that have to be mitigated by delivery. I:E 1 Clove of garlic DOESN"T equate to one BULB of Garlic. Live and learn. Besides, I will not be responsible for your plane ticket. :-)
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jaunte Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:21:51pm |
re: #122 HoosierHoops
Stainless steel or glass chairs sound kinda hard.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:22:27pm |
re: #118 Gus 802
The man is psycho.
Controversial Spiritual Warfare Against Catholic Saints
Classic hard-line Protestant rhetoric. While most evangelicals have dropped the anti-Catholic rhetoric (as the Catholic Church has proven an ally on some issues, such as abortion), Wagner sticks to the hateful words of yesteryear.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:22:29pm |
re: #118 Gus 802
The man is psycho.
Controversial Spiritual Warfare Against Catholic Saints
Bishop Muthee, mentioned in this post, is a Wagneroni.
Fukn freakazoids.
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alpuz Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:23:01pm |
re: #106 Bubblehead II
Here's a tip from a life long Brat griller. You chop at least one onion and add it to enough beer to cover the brats. You can also add crushed peppercorns and garlic. You bring the mix to a boil for about 5 minutes and then add the brats.
The brats should take the boil out of the 'broth'... once the boil resumes, let it boil for around a minute or two and take it all off the heat covered. Let sit for as long as you desire.
When you put them on the grill do it away from direct heat. But, after slow cooking, you're going to want to have them flame licked until they appear a little 'crusted' in spots. I like to shower them with beer as I cook them over the flames... the smell is awesome. Squirting juices is a good sign they are ready to get off the grill. You want them plump off the grill... not shriveled.
After that, a beer and onion bath does do wonders. Good luck.
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Digital Display Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:23:39pm |
re: #125 jaunte
Stainless steel or glass chairs sound kinda hard.
I know..But it was a wicked buy...It looks really cool...I need the perfect chairs
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Lidane Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:23:54pm |
re: #121 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
And no where was that more apparent than the bill that would have made it illegal to knowingly hire an illegal immigrant...at least so long as they aren't a maid or yardman. Probably because if they didn't carve out that exception, the bulk of the state's elite would be behind bars.
Every construction company and meat packing plant in this state would be forced to shut down if they couldn't hire illegals. And farms would rot without illegal labor out in the fields.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:24:46pm |
re: #118 Gus 802
In Hard-Core Idolatry – Facing the Facts, Wagner asserted that Catholic saints bring honor to the spirits of darkness, and promoted the burning of their statues in Argentina, which was done. Wagner describes how the Holy Spirit came to his associate, Cindy Jacobs (a prophet in Wagner’s Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders) and “told her that in [the Argentinian city of] Resistencia they must burn the idols, like the magicians did in Ephesus. Ed Silvoso, Cindy Jacobs… …the kinds of material things that might be bringing honor to the spirits of darkness: pictures, statues, Catholic saints, Books of Mormon, pictures of former lovers, pornographic material, fetishes, drugs, Ouija boards, zodiac charms, good luck symbols, crystals for healing, amulets, talismans, tarot cards, witch dolls, voodoo items, love potions, books of magic, totem poles, certain pieces of jewelry, objects of Freemasonry, horoscopes, gargoyles, Native [American] art, foreign souvenirs, and what have you…. the witches and warlocks had surrounded the area and done their occult sacrifices… When the flames shot up, a woman right behind Doris screamed and manifested a demon, which Doris immediately cast out!”
Wait, what? What the fuck?
I guess I'll have to go burn my aspirin now.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:25:01pm |
re: #126 Dark_Falcon
Classic hard-line Protestant rhetoric. While most evangelicals have dropped the anti-Catholic rhetoric *in public* (as the Catholic Church has proven an ally on some issues, such as abortion), Wagner sticks to the hateful words of yesteryear.
Fixed.
They love those antigay antiabortion votes on election day, but every other day they're hellbound idol worshippers.
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Lidane Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:26:02pm |
For once, Newt isn't being a raging hypocrite:
Thrice-Married Gingrich Won’t Sign FAMiLY LEADER’s Fidelity Pledge Unless Changes Are Made
Of course, he still plans on signing the damn thing, but only if they change it. ROFL Newt.
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Mocking Jay Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:26:31pm |
re: #123 Dark_Falcon
Walker's no failure, and even Rahm Emmanuel is demanding concessions from the teacher's union. Walker's actions will be remembers well in time, and that time will be soon. Lower taxes, more jobs, and a more flexible government that spends less. What's not to like?
More jobs for prisoners...
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Only The Lurker Knows Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:27:35pm |
re: #128 alpuz
Thanks for the input. You should post more often on subjects that interest you. LGF isn't completely dedicated to politics you know.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:27:36pm |
re: #132 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Fixed.
They love those antigay antiabortion votes on election day, but every other day they're hellbound idol worshippers.
Not so sure. But most have lowered the rhetorical volume, at least, while Wagner has not and does not. He's a Out-and-Proud religious bigot.
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jvic Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:28:14pm |
re: #119 jaunte
This is one reason I regard Perry as more of an opportunist than a fanatic:
This is not a discussion that I want to prevail in. You may be correct. I hope so.
As I indicated, I view the American political class as dangerous only because of the mismatch between their power grubbing pretensions and their competence. But if we don't recover some kind of equilibrium, inevitably someone competent and dangerous will emerge.
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McSpiff Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:29:03pm |
re: #126 Dark_Falcon
Classic hard-line Protestant rhetoric. While most evangelicals have dropped the anti-Catholic rhetoric (as the Catholic Church has proven an ally on some issues, such as abortion), Wagner sticks to the hateful words of yesteryear.
I'm surprised he made it the whole way through without screaming about the whore of Babylon.
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alpuz Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:29:33pm |
re: #123 Dark_Falcon
I guess we'll see. I don't see lower taxes and more jobs. I also don't see a more flexible government. You may, but I don't... did I mention growing up here?
The response was to Lidane wondering what happened to Texas. I've split my time between the two states. I was just offering what I thought would be a good comparison. Wisconsin seems to be going dumb.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:29:37pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:30:13pm |
re: #141 alpuz
I guess we'll see. I don't see lower taxes and more jobs. I also don't see a more flexible government. You may, but I don't... did I mention growing up here?
The response was to Lidane wondering what happened to Texas. I've split my time between the two states. I was just offering what I thought would be a good comparison. Wisconsin seems to be going dumb.
I disagree, strongly.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:31:10pm |
re: #130 Lidane
Every construction company and meat packing plant in this state would be forced to shut down if they couldn't hire illegals. And farms would rot without illegal labor out in the fields.
It sucks to think of how dependent some things are on exploiting the labor of illegal immigrants.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:31:35pm |
re: #123 Dark_Falcon
Walker's no failure, and even Rahm Emmanuel is demanding concessions from the teacher's union. Walker's actions will be remembers well in time, and that time will be soon. Lower taxes, more jobs, and a more flexible government that spends less. What's not to like?
Lol, teacher's unions are just this year's Emanuel Goldstein.
Last year it was al qaeda anchor babies from Mexico.
Next year it will be the entire cast of Glee, just watch.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:32:45pm |
re: #137 Bubblehead II
Thanks for the input. You should post more often on subjects that interest you. LGF isn't completely dedicated to politics you know.
Quite Concur.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:32:56pm |
re: #142 Dark_Falcon
It creates an ethical problem that I am not comfortable with.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:33:33pm |
re: #138 Dark_Falcon
Not so sure. But most have lowered the rhetorical volume, at least, while Wagner has not and does not. He's a Out-and-Proud religious bigot.
Personally, I prefer the out and proud to closet cases.
And like all closet cases, it's not like they are kidding anyone but themselves, anyway.
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Mocking Jay Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:34:20pm |
re: #142 Dark_Falcon
Counties have serious budget problems. money needs to be saved and this is a good way to do it. It's better than cutting funds for schools.
Wait till the felons are the ones teaching...
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Lidane Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:34:23pm |
re: #148 Lidane
Hmm. Not sure what I did there. Serves me right for not hitting Preview. =P
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justaminute Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:34:46pm |
We lost our trough guy Anthony Weiner, but guess what on Ed tonight Alan Grayson announced he was running for Congress in 2012. The talk is in a heavily Democratic district.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:34:58pm |
re: #146 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Lol, teacher's unions are just this year's Emanuel Goldstein.
Last year it was al qaeda anchor babies from Mexico.
Next year it will be the entire cast of Glee, just watch.
It's not just the gOP that has union troubles, as I just mentioned. Here, have a read:
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:35:14pm |
re: #85 Bubblehead II
On the plus side, A friend of mine gave me some home made venison, cheddar and jalapenoe brautes that I can cook tomorrow after I get the daily chores done. This in itself should be interesting. Fry or Grill? That is the question. Friend says Grill. What say you Lizards?
Let soak in a basic american style lager and sliced onions all day (one of the only things Lite beer is good for). Then boil in that lager for 10~15 minutes.
Then grill. Serve with kraut on a good hard roll.
Nummy.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:36:18pm |
re: #154 justaminute
We lost our trough guy Anthony Weiner, but guess what on Ed tonight Alan Grayson announced he was running for Congress in 2012. The talk is in a heavily Democratic district.
He's a horse's ass, and worse than Weiner. I hope Alan Grayson gets a thumping in the primary and fades swiftly away.
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Lidane Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:36:23pm |
re: #152 JasonA
Wait till the felons are the ones teaching...
At the rate Walker's going, prisoners will be teaching in poor neighborhoods while all those mean former teachers that had the gall to be unionized are out picking up trash on the highway.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:36:49pm |
re: #150 Slumbering Behemoth
It creates an ethical problem that I am not comfortable with.
Explain, please.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:37:25pm |
re: #113 jvic
(In contrast, I perceive Bachmann as fanatical but ditzy, and Palin as a flat-out opportunist. I associate Huckabee with the sleaziness that many here impute to Perry.)
But he has such cute dimples.
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jvic Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:37:31pm |
re: #154 justaminute
We lost our trough guy Anthony Weiner, but...
There are lots of trough guys in DC!
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Lidane Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:39:42pm |
re: #145 Slumbering Behemoth
It sucks to think of how dependent some things are on exploiting the labor of illegal immigrants.
And we KNOW it's dependent on exploiting illegal labor, but there are still people who think we're going to be able to deport them all? Pfft. The industrial impact would be huge.
We might as well just have a general amnesty for the illegals that are already here and some sort of guest worker program. It's the only thing that would be honest and would make the most sense. Except that guest workers would have to be paid better and have better working conditions. Oops.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:39:53pm |
re: #158 Lidane
At the rate Walker's going, prisoners will be teaching in poor neighborhoods while all those mean former teachers that had the gall to be unionized are out picking up trash on the highway.
It's not the gall of joining a union, its them pushing for compensation packages that proved unsustainable. Walker's legislation curtails the power sources that let public sector unions ratchet up benefits packages that have proven unaffordable.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:39:54pm |
re: #155 Dark_Falcon
The Compensation Monster Devouring Cities
...
Steven Malanga is the senior editor of City Journal and a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute.
Rotfl, the fine folks who brought you The Bell Curve.
Better source, pls.
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jaunte Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:40:20pm |
re: #161 jvic
Senator Joseph Paine: "Let me go! I'm not fit to be a senator! I'm not fit to live! Expel me, not him! Willet Dam is a fraud! It's a crime against the people who sent me here - and I committed it! Every word that boy said is the truth! Every word about Taylor and me and graft and the rotten political corruption of my state! Every word of it is true! I'm not fit for office! I'm not fit for any place of honor or trust! Expel me, not that boy!"
Not intended to be a true-to-life example.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:41:39pm |
re: #164 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Rotfl, the fine folks who brought you The Bell Curve.
Better source, pls.
You can't throw the baby out with the bath water . . .
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:42:42pm |
re: #164 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Rotfl, the fine folks who brought you The Bell Curve.
Better source, pls.
He's also quite smart and City Journal is well respected. It's a good source. Was Knopf tarnished forever for publishing Arming America after that book was proven a fraud?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:43:06pm |
re: #158 Lidane
At the rate Walker's going, prisoners will be teaching in poor neighborhoods while all those mean former teachers that had the gall to be unionized are out picking up trash on the highway.
Well.
They deserve worse than that. These branch librarians and kindergarten teaching thugs are responsible for the utter decimation of the fabric of our economy!
They need to be taught a lesson and what better man than someone bought out by God's Favorite Patriots the Kochs?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:43:39pm |
re: #166 ggt
You can't throw the baby out with the bath water . . .
Tell that to the people who funded The Bell Curve /rotfl
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:44:25pm |
re: #167 Dark_Falcon
He's also quite smart and City Journal is well respected. It's a good source. Was Knopf tarnished forever for publishing Arming America after that book was proven a fraud?
It Knopf a rwnj anti-government think tank?
Since when?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:45:14pm |
re: #170 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
It Knopf a rwnj anti-government think tank?
Since when?
Learn how to spell, then get back to me.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:45:16pm |
re: #159 Dark_Falcon
Explain, please.
By hook or crook, the prison population will need to be kept at a certain level to maintain labor demands, and we have already seen one instance of a judge taking bribes from a juvenile detention center to send kids their way for abnormally long sentences. As much as I loath the phrase, "slippery slope" does come to mind.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:45:31pm |
re: #123 Dark_Falcon
Walker's no failure, and even Rahm Emmanuel is demanding concessions from the teacher's union. Walker's actions will be remembers well in time, and that time will be soon. Lower taxes, more jobs, and a more flexible government that spends less. What's not to like?
Not to like? Poor roads, thrown away jobs, thrown away rail improvements, damaged schools, decaying infrastructure, damaged social services, damaged ecology (especially if the Taconite mine up north goes through)?
He'll be fired next spring DF. He's riding the tiger and has no clue what to do next. He rammed through his immediate short term goals at the cost of every bridge he has. Even the Republicans I know up state despise him for his lying during the campaign and for the damage he's doing to the schools.
People here have parents who had their lives saved by unions. We still remember what it's like to have no way to defend ourselves against predatory corporations.
Walker will be the shortest term governor in our states history.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:46:15pm |
re: #167 Dark_Falcon
City Journal is well respected. It's a good source.
It's the propaganda arm of the Manhattan Institute.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:46:36pm |
re: #172 Slumbering Behemoth
By hook or crook, the prison population will need to be kept at a certain level to maintain labor demands, and we have already seen one instance of a judge taking bribes from a juvenile detention center to send kids their way for abnormally long sentences. As much as I loath the phrase, "slippery slope" does come to mind.
Do it like this for a few years, and it will seem shocking, no matter how good the economy gets, to PAY free people for this work.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:46:40pm |
re: #172 Slumbering Behemoth
By hook or crook, the prison population will need to be kept at a certain level to maintain labor demands, and we have already seen one instance of a judge taking bribes from a juvenile detention center to send kids their way for abnormally long sentences. As much as I loath the phrase, "slippery slope" does come to mind.
That is a risk but proper oversight can guard against it.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:47:04pm |
re: #176 Dark_Falcon
That is a risk but proper oversight can guard against it.
But when is there ever proper oversight?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:47:30pm |
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alpuz Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:47:39pm |
re: #163 Dark_Falcon
Walker himself admitted his moves did little for the budget. Fitzgerald was on Fox news excitedly claiming they had busted the unions. My old man, a life long Republican and a good friend has gone Glen Beck crazy over this shit.
I live, work, and really like many people in my Wisconsin community who will be hit by this nastiness... on both sides. Do you live here, Falcon?
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austin_blue Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:48:19pm |
Ah, my Governor Pointy Boots/Good Hair.
Be afraid my friends, be very afraid. The man has not lost an election, either as a Dem or an R. And yes, he has won both. Charismatic on the stump, he is a force to be reckoned with. His Tea Party/Hardcore Right bona fides cannot be touched.
He shot a coyote while jogging with his always available .38 auto!
No shit.
He's a golden boy.
(The following is Austin gossip)
Except for the fact that he is rumored to be a secret peter puffer. A bone smoker. A guy who would be happy to push a stool up for you at a bar. A man who who hasn't slept with his wife Anita since before their daughter Sidney was born.
Not that there is anything wrong with that, except for the blatant hypocrisy.
Oh, and our Lieutenant Governor is even more out there.
Who could have imagined that the top two most visible elected officials in the State of Texas could be gay?
(End of Austin gossip.)
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Mocking Jay Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:48:35pm |
re: #176 Dark_Falcon
That is a risk but proper oversight can guard against it.
No. Not when you make putting people behind bars profitable.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:49:08pm |
re: #174 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
It's the propaganda arm of the Manhattan Institute.
Horseshit. And it call it "anti-government" is risible. Long has it supported smart infrastructure improvements, better government organization, and effective policing. And many are its profile of government leaders who succeed, both Democrats and Republicans.
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Lidane Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:49:27pm |
re: #176 Dark_Falcon
That is a risk but proper oversight can guard against it.
Proper oversight from the same people making the laws that would set up prisoners as free labor?
Foxes, hen houses, and all that.
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Digital Display Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:49:35pm |
re: #179 alpuz
Walker himself admitted his moves did little for the budget. Fitzgerald was on Fox news excitedly claiming they had busted the unions. My old man, a life long Republican and a good friend has gone Glen Beck crazy over this shit.
I live, work, and really like many people in my Wisconsin community who will be hit by this nastiness... on both sides. Do you live here, Falcon?
I have a fishing cabin at Lake Tomahawk.. My dad was born in Wisc.. I know the politics..I love the state
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:49:35pm |
re: #182 Dark_Falcon
Horseshit. And to call it "anti-government" is risible. Long has it supported smart infrastructure improvements, better government organization, and effective policing. And many are its profile of government leaders who succeed, both Democrats and Republicans.
PIMF
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:51:16pm |
re: #183 Lidane
Proper oversight from the same people making the laws that would set up prisoners as free labor?
Foxes, hen houses, and all that.
It's Racine County that is running this program. The state can oversee the county.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:51:26pm |
re: #176 Dark_Falcon
That is a risk but proper oversight can guard against it.
When peoples lives are being destroyed for pure profit there will never be proper oversite. The only reason the PA ring ended was they went after a kid who could get representation instead of sticking to destroying poor kids without attorneys.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:51:36pm |
re: #172 Slumbering Behemoth
By hook or crook, the prison population will need to be kept at a certain level to maintain labor demands, and we have already seen one instance of a judge taking bribes from a juvenile detention center to send kids their way for abnormally long sentences. As much as I loath the phrase, "slippery slope" does come to mind.
Hey now, let's not look a gift horse in the mouth. What better way to provide America with the plentiful, low-cost, and obedient labor she needs to become competitive in the world market than in our very own prison system? Why spend money on workers who are so needy, asking for things like health benefits, safe workplaces, and holidays off when we can simply lease prisoners from the state for a "reasonable" fee? It's a win-win all around: The state gets much-needed funds, businesses get cheaper labor, and the days of union thuggery come to an end. Sure, the working class will disappear, but hey, there's always room in the new private prison up the block!
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Only The Lurker Knows Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:51:57pm |
re: #158 Lidane
At the rate Walker's going, prisoners will be teaching in poor neighborhoods while all those mean former teachers that had the gall to be unionized are out picking up trash on the highway.
Well at least they will learn how to survive out on the street. Whether or not you would like to meet one of their "students" out on the streets is another question. But then again, would you really want to meet one of Walker's "students" on those same streets if you didn't meet his and those who controls him social beliefs?
Goons, Well they are, well, goons.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:52:23pm |
re: #182 Dark_Falcon
Horseshit.
Is it?
[Link: www.city-journal.org...]
A quarterly magazine of urban affairs, published by the Manhattan Institute, edited by Brian C. Anderson.
And it call it "anti-government" is risible.
Mmm, hasty sentence.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:53:05pm |
re: #176 Dark_Falcon
That is a risk but proper oversight can guard against it.
If proper oversight existed, the whole fiasco wouldn't have happened in the first place.
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Lidane Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:53:31pm |
re: #186 Dark_Falcon
It's Racine County that is running this program. The state can oversee the county.
The same state that could easily make a law turning prisoners into free labor?
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Mocking Jay Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:53:59pm |
re: #187 wlewisiii
When peoples lives are being destroyed for pure profit there will never be proper oversite. The only reason the PA ring ended was they went after a kid who could get representation instead of sticking to destroying poor kids without attorneys.
The most obscene part of that case, to me...
Ciavarella is a defendant in a class action lawsuit filed by the Juvenile Law Center on behalf of the juveniles who were adjudicated delinquent by him despite not being represented by counsel or advised of their rights.[18][19] He has moved to dismiss this lawsuit as it pertains to him based on judicial immunity.[20] He is also named as a defendant in three other lawsuits, however, all four lawsuits have been consolidated into one master class action lawsuit which was filed in June and then amended in late August.[21][22]
The plaintiffs, in a 75-page court filing on September 9, argued that the actions of Ciavarella and Conahan should not be "fully shielded by absolutely judicial immunity or legislative immunity", because their actions went beyond their judicial and administrative duties.[23]
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 8:58:24pm |
re: #190 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Is it?
[Link: www.city-journal.org...]
Mmm, hasty sentence.
I don't deny it's published by the Manhattan Institute, I deny it's anti-government.
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Mocking Jay Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:00:09pm |
Here's a nice feel-good story:
NY DA to Town/City Clerks: Don't Want to Issue Marriage Licenses to Same-Sex Couples? Tough Sh*t.
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Digital Display Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:00:51pm |
re: #194 danhenry1
I cannot see much difference in the Evangelical Christian movement, and Nazism.
Come on..That is so wrong on so many levels...
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fire at night Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:01:48pm |
He easily comes across as a slime-ball in his address. I felt like he was trying to sell me a seedy mini-van from a used resale lot. I definitively will not support this guy, even though I currently hold Texas voter registration.
/Yikes. Fundies are scary.
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Only The Lurker Knows Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:02:09pm |
re: #194 danhenry1
I cannot see much difference in the Evangelical Christian movement, and Nazism.
Please, Explain your posisition
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austin_blue Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:02:12pm |
re: #194 danhenry1
I cannot see much difference in the Evangelical Christian movement, and Nazism.
Don't invoke Nazis here. Stupid, stupid, stupid. A sure-fire action to get you shunned.
Stupid.
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jvic Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:04:14pm |
re: #194 danhenry1
I cannot see much difference in the Evangelical Christian movement, and Nazism.
Please say you posted this on a dare. Or a bet.
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Mocking Jay Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:04:27pm |
re: #202 austin_blue
Don't invoke Nazis here. Stupid, stupid, stupid. A sure-fire action to get you shunned.
Stupid.
Though, to be fair, we often let the comparison between them and the Taliban slide, and they're not there...yet...
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:04:33pm |
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Mocking Jay Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:06:42pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:06:44pm |
re: #196 Dark_Falcon
I don't deny it's published by the Manhattan Institute, I deny it's anti-government.
All they do is whine and complain about the public sector under the guise of advocating "small government". Same old states rights bullshit. The Bell Curve did not discredit them at all, it represents them perfectly.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:07:07pm |
re: #202 austin_blue
Don't invoke Nazis here. Stupid, stupid, stupid. A sure-fire action to get you shunned.
Stupid.
WHat if they are Illinois Nazis?
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Varek Raith Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:07:35pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:08:47pm |
re: #210 ggt
WHat if they are Illinois Nazis?
Then you use your 1972 Monaco to chase them over the side of the bridge.
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jaunte Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:08:56pm |
re: #21 jvic
3. The right blogosphere keeps talking about the terrific Texas economy: supposedly half the nation's new jobs are being created in Texas because of Perry. Any deconstruction of that narrative?
Here's some good background info that could explain a lot of the job creation. It's simply cheaper for a company to create a new job in Texas:
Texas has a greater share of low-wage workers than other states for two main reasons.First, Texas has a lower minimum wage than most other states. As inflation eroded the real federal minimum wage through the 1990s and 2000s, an unprecedented number of states passed laws that set their floors above the federal rate. Before the national increase in 2007, 31 states and the District of Columbia had minimum wages that exceeded the federal level of $5.15.
Not setting a higher wage floor has its advantages. Low employment costs attracted businesses, encouraged entrepreneurship and spurred job growth in Texas, particularly on the low-skill end. Consumers benefited from lower prices, and some low-wage workers found jobs. At the same time, the policy likely enticed more low-wage workers to move to the state because of job opportunities that might not have existed under a high minimum wage policy.
Second, characteristics of both employees and employers contribute to the relatively low wages. For example, Texas workers have fewer years of education, are slightly younger and are much more likely to be immigrants from Latin America—all characteristics associated with lower wages. Non-Hispanic whites, who tend to earn higher wages, make up only 52 percent of Texas workers, compared with 75 percent in the rest of the nation.
Industry and occupation distributions in Texas are more concentrated in relatively low-paying sectors, such as food service, retail and transportation. In addition, unionization rates—which are associated with higher compensation—are low in Texas. [Link: dallasfed.org...]
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Digital Display Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:08:58pm |
re: #207 Dark_Falcon
I think we may have a Moby, folks.
That's pretty rare these days..I'll bet Moby meat is pretty pricey in the Windy city..
//
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Only The Lurker Knows Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:09:38pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:09:58pm |
re: #208 JasonA
Do we have RoE for Mobys...?
Sure: Work to confirm Moby status. If target is confirmed by spewing as a Moby tenderize with clue bats until banned, then fire up the grill.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:10:50pm |
re: #216 Dark_Falcon
Sure: Work to confirm Moby status. If target is confirmed by spewing as a Moby tenderize with clue bats until banned, then fire up the grill.
chop lots of garlic . . .
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:10:57pm |
re: #197 JasonA
Here's a nice feel-good story:
NY DA to Town/City Clerks: Don't Want to Issue Marriage Licenses to Same-Sex Couples? Tough Sh*t.
Oppression!
Tyranny!
First, the government made us give marriage licenses to interracial couples, now they won't let us run roughshod over the gays anymore!!!! Poor us!
/dumbbigots
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:11:49pm |
re: #214 HoosierHoops
That's pretty rare these days..I'll bet Moby meat is pretty pricey in the Windy city..
//
They're rare, but we've seen them here as recently as last year. They pretend to be part of the group, but fire off ugly comments to discredit the blog they are posting on. It's a real-life "false-flag" tactic.
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Only The Lurker Knows Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:13:19pm |
YOH! danhenry1. Still waiting for a response.
Toes tapping.............
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:14:17pm |
I had a nice evening with friends in the Very Far Southern parts of Chicagoland this evening. Drive there and back took about 45 minutes during rush hour --pretty amazing.
didn't see any obvious Illinois Nazis tho. Which is good because I wasn't driving a Monaco and I really don't relish the idea of driving off the Des Plains River Valley bridge.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:15:18pm |
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jvic Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:15:59pm |
re: #219 Dark_Falcon
They're rare, but we've seen them here as recently as last year. They pretend to be part of the group, but fire off ugly comments to discredit the blog they are posting on. It's a real-life "false-flag" tactic.
Fascinating. How do you tell? Presumably from excessive links to the ugly comments?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:17:15pm |
re: #207 Dark_Falcon
I think we may have a Moby, folks.
Honestly, he gave himself away with "the Evangelical Christian movement".
Really? Which one, there are about 11,000 of them.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:22:02pm |
re: #176 Dark_Falcon
That is a risk but proper oversight can guard against it.
Unfortunately the system isn't perfect. It's run by humans, which is just one or two grades better than having it run by robots.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:22:04pm |
re: #224 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Honestly, he gave himself away with "the Evangelical Christian movement".
Really? Which one, there are about 11,000 of them.
I prefer the general term Whacko. There are many groups with unfortunate names, labels just don't apply anymore. They mean different things to different people (usually on alternate days of the week).
"Whacko" seems to be holding its definition. At least, today.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:22:57pm |
re: #223 jvic
Fascinating. How do you tell? Presumably from excessive links to the ugly comments?
That's part of it. Some Moby's have really been Sockpuppets, used by the Stalkers to try to defame Charles and LGF.
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Mocking Jay Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:25:24pm |
re: #226 Slumbering Behemoth
Unfortunately the system isn't perfect. It's run by humans, which is just one or two grades better than having it run by robots.
Not so sure of that anymore...
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:26:36pm |
re: #226 Slumbering Behemoth
Unfortunately the system isn't perfect. It's run by humans, which is just one or two grades better than having it run by robots.
All I care to know is that a man is a human being--that is enough for me; he can't be any worse. I can get right down and grovel with him.
- Mark Twain's notebook #42
Notice he said "grovel" not "gravel"
Night all!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:28:36pm |
re: #218 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Oppression!
Tyranny!
First, the government made us give marriage licenses to interracial couples, now they won't let us run roughshod over the gays anymore!!! Poor us!
/dumbbigots
It's communism, don't ya know.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:28:49pm |
re: #227 ggt
I prefer the general term Whacko. There are many groups with unfortunate names, labels just don't apply anymore. They mean different things to different people (usually on alternate days of the week).
"Whacko" seems to be holding its definition. At least, today.
Yeah, I'm trying to stay away from lapsing into my bad habit of religion-rolodexing, especially around that guy's trollbait. But let's just say there are lot of whackos that are neither ECs nor Nazis lol
That guy Vander Plaats, I'm not so sure "Evangelical" is an accurate description for him.
Alright I'm about to religion-rolodex so I'm signing off for now to go get some beers. All this Wisconsin and bratwurst talk has made me thirsty. bbl
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blueraven Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:30:10pm |
re: #129 HoosierHoops
I know..But it was a wicked buy...It looks really cool...I need the perfect chairs
Maybe something like this but with a stainless base?
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Only The Lurker Knows Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:31:01pm |
re: #208 JasonA
Do we have RoE for Mobys...?
Going back here a bit Lizards.
What are the RoE for dealing with a Troll/Moby
Well, first we stun them with logic.
Second, we crush them with facts.
Third, after Jaunte and Reine.De. Touut vett the recipe, we have a good meal.
Any Questions?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:31:39pm |
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Digital Display Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:33:28pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:36:10pm |
re: #234 Bubblehead II
Going back here a bit Lizards.
What are the RoE for dealing with a Troll/Moby
Well, first we stun them with logic.
Second, we crush them with facts.
Third, after Jaunte and Reine.De. Touut vett the recipe, we have a good meal.
Any Questions?
Eh, I've just been grilling them. Quick, simple and they have good flavor.
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Mocking Jay Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:36:35pm |
re: #235 Slumbering Behemoth
Where's the sequel, where the outdated iPods are crushed by the newer, sexier, iPod Touches?
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The Ghost of a Flea Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:43:08pm |
re: #196 Dark_Falcon
I don't deny it's published by the Manhattan Institute, I deny it's anti-government.
Surveying the independent publications of the contributors, it certainly seems like they're not anti-government...there is, however, a running trend of publications rooted in "the old ways are best and stuff that happened since the sixties have degraded our society" version of social conservatism as policy-shaper.
Theodore Dalrymple as a contributor does not inspire confidence--he's been harping the same couple of memes for his entire public career and is a master of deflecting discussion while positioning himself as possessing of erudition far above his detractors. Hymowitz has been spiralling deeper into paleo-traditionalism with each book: "Manning Up" isn't worth the paper it's written on. MacDonald's career is based on victim-blaming supported by selective use of anecdotal cases plus unjustified extrapolation of the statements of a few moonbats dumbasses into a "elite intellectual position."
Malanga is anti-government in the libertarian radical sense: his entire niche is pimping radical free market-ism plus demogoguery about ever-growing big government.
I'm actually unfamiliar with the works of Anderson, but feel that the blurb to Democratic Capitalism and Its Discontents reinforces my impression:
Despite its victory over the messianic creeds of communism and national socialism, democratic capitalism, the economic-political system that has provided the nations of the West with an unprecedented degree of prosperity and freedom, faces extraordinary challenges in the new millennium. Not only has a fanatical form of Islam disrupted the peace of the postcommunist era, which some had wrongly heralded as the "end of history," Western societies also remain haunted by internal demons: egalitarian fantasies, moral libertinism, an arid and unsustainable secularism, a suicide of culture.
Basically, I have a very hard time taking City Journal seriously as a source, because the magazine and the organization that runs it seem to be purpose-built to provide an intellectual sheen to a limited framework of concepts.
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BeenHereAwhile Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:44:42pm |
re: #93 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
You know things are bad when today's Republicans evoke nostalgia for W.
Ummmmm - I never thought I'd feel nostalgic for Richard Nixon.
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Digital Display Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:45:20pm |
re: #239 Gus 802
[Link: www.fritzhansen.com...]
NO! The Kitchen table is a huge slab of clear glass on stainless steel legs..
I like the coffee table and end table.. The glass is huge and awesome looking.. I got a deal...But now I've got this Austin Powers Vibe going on.../
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:45:37pm |
re: #240 Gus 802
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:47:00pm |
re: #241 The Ghost of a Flea
Well, i don't see those writers in a badly light at all, with the exception of Hymowitz (who has problems). But I guess it just comes down to what you already believe. It's conservative and not wingnutty, and I've liked it for years. Those facts form much of my view.
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engineer cat Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:47:25pm |
Western societies also remain haunted by internal demons: egalitarian fantasies, moral libertinism, an arid and unsustainable secularism, a suicide of culture
i want one of my alma mater's famous college crest t-shirts featuring the motto "communism, atheism, free love"
got to get busy and send away for one soon...
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:48:15pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:48:33pm |
re: #249 engineer dog
Western societies also remain haunted by internal demons: egalitarian fantasies, moral libertinism, an arid and unsustainable secularism, a suicide of culture
i want one of my alma mater's famous college crest t-shirts featuring the motto "communism, atheism, free love"
got to get busy and send away for one soon...
Who said those lines in italics. They strike me as quite true.
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engineer cat Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:51:49pm |
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Gus Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:53:16pm |
re: #244 HoosierHoops
NO! The Kitchen table is a huge slab of clear glass on stainless steel legs..
I like the coffee table and end table.. The glass is huge and awesome looking.. I got a deal...But now I've got this Austin Powers Vibe going on.../
That's interesting because Fritz Hansen is the only manufacturer of the Egg Chair used on Austin Powers. Fritz Hansen would be the place to get the Austin Powers vibe.
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The Ghost of a Flea Mon, Jul 11, 2011 9:58:35pm |
re: #194 danhenry1
I cannot see much difference in the Evangelical Christian movement, and Nazism.
Down-dinged for generalization plus a failure to use a dictionary to find out what "evangelical" means. Presumably you're meaning to take a potshot at the Christian Right. Though I'm not a Christian, I have no problem saying there are some truly fantastic evangelical Christian liberals out there: you should start by reading Fred Clark on the Slackivist blog.
I'm also going to say that it's...inadvisable...to use Nazism as your basic quasi-historical comparison for a contemporary movement you don't like. Read a bit more broadly and you'll realize that the trends people quickly elide with the rise of the Nazi Party are part-and-parcel of authoritarian social movements independent of the specific ideology. It diminishes the specific tragedy of Nazism to simply fall back on that event as a one-size-fits-all condemnation. There are far better comparisons to be made if one wishes to critique the movement of the Christian Right in historical terms.
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jvic Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:01:05pm |
re: #228 Dark_Falcon
That's part of it. Some Moby's have really been Sockpuppets, used by the Stalkers to try to defame Charles and LGF.
I'd forgotten all about them.
I just went over there.
Jeezis.
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Digital Display Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:02:01pm |
re: #253 Gus 802
That's interesting because Fritz Hansen is the only manufacturer of the Egg Chair used on Austin Powers. Fritz Hansen would be the place to get the Austin Powers vibe.
I'll be pissed off when I get home Tuesday night.. I know there is going to be dog hair on my new tables...I know how Winston is.. I'm gone all day and he is playing in the closet destroying my clothes or chasing shadows...
Then when I walk in the house with groceries and look around..
He has the effen nerve to stroll into the living room Yawning...and stretching
Slow day Winston?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:02:23pm |
re: #257 jvic
I'd forgotten all about them.
I just went over there.
Jeezis.
The hate and butthurt are some else, aren't they?
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Gus Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:06:26pm |
re: #258 HoosierHoops
I'll be pissed off when I get home Tuesday night.. I know there is going to be dog hair on my new tables...I know how Winston is.. I'm gone all day and he is playing in the closet destroying my clothes or chasing shadows...
Then when I walk in the house with groceries and look around..
He has the effen nerve to stroll into the living room Yawning...and stretching
Slow day Winston?
Animals. If they only weren't so lazy and learned how to speak English.
//
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Only The Lurker Knows Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:09:15pm |
Night Lizards. Time to call it a day. May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:09:40pm |
What was it about the 60s and 70s? Did the entire country suffer a 20-year case of bad taste in...well, everything?
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Varek Raith Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:10:21pm |
re: #261 Gus 802
Some people like these chairs.
[Link: www.modernity.se...]
I'm not crazy about 'em.
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Digital Display Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:11:33pm |
re: #261 Gus 802
Some people like these chairs.
[Link: www.modernity.se...]
I'm not crazy about 'em.
I'll probably go old school tall wood chairs to offset the glass and steel look..
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Cheechako Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:14:25pm |
re: #258 HoosierHoops
Just wait until you have guests sitting around that clear, glass-topped table looking down at each others dirty shoes, socks, and other pieces/parts which should remain hidden during meals.
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engineer cat Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:15:09pm |
re: #263 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
What was it about the 60s and 70s? Did the entire country suffer a 20-year case of bad taste in...well, everything?
i put the lapse in taste starting in about 1952
i can tell you that my 70s was spent somewhere else far far away from disco and leisure suits trying to counteract them with acoustic instruments and worn out denim
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Digital Display Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:17:00pm |
re: #267 Cheechako
Just wait until you have guests sitting around that clear, glass-topped table looking down at each others dirty shoes, socks, and other pieces/parts which should remain hidden during meals.
agreed..Need a cover...But the look is clear glass...
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:17:46pm |
re: #256 The Ghost of a Flea
It diminishes the specific tragedy of Nazism to simply fall back on that event as a one-size-fits-all condemnation. There are far better comparisons to be made if one wishes to critique the movement of the Christian Right in historical terms.
Yeah, and one can start with their own history, rightchere. Running to Nazi Germany to find comparisons lets the bigots' own history in the USA off the hook.
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laZardo Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:18:14pm |
re: #260 Gus 802
Animals. If they only weren't so lazy and learned how to speak English.
//
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:18:44pm |
re: #259 Dark_Falcon
The hate and butthurt are some else, aren't they?
I love their weekly stats of member posts.
Absurd.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:19:29pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:19:43pm |
re: #260 Gus 802
Animals. If they only weren't so lazy and learned how to speak English.
//
:sigh: You're supposed to eat them or put them to work, not accommodate them.
/
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:20:16pm |
re: #263 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
What was it about the 60s and 70s? Did the entire country suffer a 20-year case of bad taste in...well, everything?
How about the early 60s? I love those styles.
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laZardo Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:20:18pm |
re: #256 The Ghost of a Flea
There are far better comparisons to be made if one wishes to critique the movement of the Christian Right in historical terms.
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Gus Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:21:26pm |
re: #263 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
What was it about the 60s and 70s? Did the entire country suffer a 20-year case of bad taste in...well, everything?
Depends. There was some bad stuff and good stuff. The high end designs were very good in the 60s and 70s. Popular design was another matter. But if you look at the Ferraris of the 60s and 70s for example.
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Cheechako Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:21:54pm |
re: #269 HoosierHoops
Then, if you need to cover the glass, why glass? (Is this a variation of an oxy-moron?)
P.S. My wife does not let me decorate as she says I have no taste.
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engineer cat Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:23:07pm |
re: #275 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
How about the early 60s? I love those styles.
narrow lapel suits, skimpy brim hats and pink jackie kennedy outfits with pillbox hats?
stuff didn't look good on ya unless you looked like sean connery or jackie kennedy..
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:23:12pm |
re: #264 Varek Raith
Just what I need when I've had a few too many, a chair that can literally tear me a new one.
:sigh: are skull thrones really that far out of fashion?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:24:16pm |
re: #243 BeenHereAwhile
Ummm - I never thought I'd feel nostalgic for Richard Nixon.
I know what you mean. I think I got this from Charles, but News Corp is making Watergate look like a fox trot out by the bandstand on the gazebo.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:24:49pm |
re: #267 Cheechako
Just wait until you have guests sitting around that clear, glass-topped table looking down at each others dirty shoes, socks, and other pieces/parts which should remain hidden during meals.
Really? I would have thought the biggest concern would be the visible ass-prints.
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Gus Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:27:09pm |
re: #279 engineer dog
narrow lapel suits, skimpy brim hats and pink jackie kennedy outfits with pillbox hats?
stuff didn't look good on ya unless you looked like sean connery or jackie kennedy..
[Link: digilander.libero.it...]
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Digital Display Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:27:24pm |
re: #278 Cheechako
Then, if you need to cover the glass, why glass? (Is this a variation of an oxy-moron?)
P.S. My wife does not let me decorate as she says I have no taste.
I just realized that there are fingerprints on the glass tables every where!
Bummer! Well guess I'd better wipe down the tables before I hit the sack...Looks like a NCSI crime scene..Maybe all glass wasn't the way to go..LOL
Good Night Lizards...
/Where the heck did I put the German Shammy?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:27:35pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:29:01pm |
re: #279 engineer dog
narrow lapel suits, skimpy brim hats and pink jackie kennedy outfits with pillbox hats?
stuff didn't look good on ya unless you looked like sean connery or jackie kennedy..
Yeah but see, on them, it was hottttt. Then there was the way Motown did it.
I have no argument.
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jvic Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:30:37pm |
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engineer cat Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:31:52pm |
re: #286 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Yeah but see, on them, it was hottt. Then there was the way Motown did it.
[Video]I have no argument.
oh if only my early 1960s had been spent in some motown place with a solid beat!
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:35:15pm |
re: #290 engineer dog
oh if only my early 1960s had been spent in some motown place with a solid beat!
You should have seen my parent's record collection. Well, before they went and got saved. :/
They always kept it, though, even post-Come-to-Jesus. Some of the best stuff on the planet.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:38:56pm |
re: #290 engineer dog
oh if only my early 1960s had been spent in some motown place with a solid beat!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:40:08pm |
re: #291 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
You should have seen my parent's record collection. Well, before they went and got saved. :/
A friend of mine got sucked into a christian cult for a brief period, and his kids lost all their video game, music, and what not. Thrown or given away. He got better.
The kids, made of steel I think, just shake their heads and laugh about it in remembrance of that time.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:40:28pm |
re: #292 Gus 802
Gravel be with you.
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engineer cat Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:47:17pm |
re: #293 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
[Video]
i hate to inflict it on you, but in 1962 i was trying to escape from this:
...and the only weapon i had was my little transistor radio
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The Ghost of a Flea Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:48:11pm |
re: #248 Dark_Falcon
Well, i don't see those writers in a badly light at all, with the exception of Hymowitz (who has problems). But I guess it just comes down to what you already believe. It's conservative and not wingnutty, and I've liked it for years. Those facts form much of my view.
As someone who used to be in the field of social sciences I have serious issues with the above authors (who I'm familiar with independent of their activities with the Manhattan Institute) because their popular publications involve a lot of cunning rhetorical tricks to make an opinion look like an academically well-founded argument. In particular, their analysis of culture-as-process is purposefully shallow so that they can make claims of simple causation unsustained by sampling. Their argumentation of "what was, was better" starts by generating a false and over-general image of a past time that's really more of an idyll or eidolon than an actual sociological/anthropological model. Their construction of the present is equally smoothed-out.
None of this is wingnutty, but that alone doesn't mean that what they propose/model is valid: really, MI is continuous with eons-old position of nostalgia conservatism--that things used to be simpler and better. The Anderson quote above demonstrates precisely the kind of ellson that troubles me:
Western societies also remain haunted by internal demons: egalitarian fantasies, moral libertinism, an arid and unsustainable secularism, a suicide of culture
I mean, those three proposed elements of "a suicide of culture" sound compelling but make no structural sense if one examines history of Western culture at a depth finer than global post-analysis. Basically, the author--be it Burke generations ago or this fellow Anderson--has the luxury of sampling: they assess the "true culture" of a time/place by picking and choosing examples while dismissing context.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:48:25pm |
re: #294 Slumbering Behemoth
A friend of mine got sucked into a christian cult for a brief period, and his kids lost all their video game, music, and what not. Thrown or given away. He got better.
The kids, made of steel I think, just shake their heads and laugh about it in remembrance of that time.
Yeah, I can relate. In fact, I once confronted them -- inasmuch as that is possible with authoritarian con parents -- asking why they would throw my crap away but keep all their secular music.
Answer: well, our music doesn't control us. Gateway drug, rebellion, disobedience, backward masking, blah blah blah.
After that, it was just contraband. Listened to it anyway, oh well. TBH parents like mine and your friends should be grateful the worst thing they had to worry about was us bringing home some Oingo Boingo cassette lol!
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:56:00pm |
re: #297 The Ghost of a Flea
None of this is wingnutty, but that alone doesn't mean that what they propose/model is valid: really, MI is continuous with eons-old position of nostalgia conservatism--that things used to be simpler and better. The Anderson quote above demonstrates precisely the kind of ellson that troubles me:
Western societies also remain haunted by internal demons: egalitarian fantasies, moral libertinism, an arid and unsustainable secularism, a suicide of culture
I mean, those three proposed elements of "a suicide of culture" sound compelling but make no structural sense if one examines history of Western culture at a depth finer than global post-analysis. Basically, the author--be it Burke generations ago or this fellow Anderson--has the luxury of sampling: they assess the "true culture" of a time/place by picking and choosing examples while dismissing context.
Same old states rights bigots, different year. The quote above is no different than Glenn Beck's bigoted garbage. Same exact anxiety, same exact content.
None of these concern-troll cons like the Manhattan Institute ever had any problems with so-called "government overreach" or inefficiency or taxes or bloated government until the legal end of jim crow. That kind of bloated government overreach, and the judicial activism that made it possible, was just fine with them.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 10:59:11pm |
re: #296 engineer dog
...and the only weapon i had was my little transistor radio
What were you picking up on your transistor radio?
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engineer cat Mon, Jul 11, 2011 11:00:21pm |
Western societies also remain haunted by internal demons: egalitarian fantasies, moral libertinism, an arid and unsustainable secularism, a suicide of culture
i take the statement as no more than an attempt to cast the worst possible light on the desire for equal rights, economic security, and freedom from superstitious and unnatural restrictions on ordinary human behavior
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 11:00:52pm |
re: #298 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I was a teen during the Satanic Panic of the 80's. I can relate.
After that, it was just contraband. Listened to it anyway, oh well.
That's the part about parents who think they can mold their children into perfect little [insert political/religious affiliation here] that cracks me up. Like those kids won't successfully seek out and enjoy such forbidden fruit of their own free will.
Of course, there are influences and substances that a conscientious parent should be wary of and protect their children from, but the arts?
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engineer cat Mon, Jul 11, 2011 11:01:21pm |
re: #300 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
What were you picking up on your transistor radio?
motown and rock and fucking roll! yeah!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 11:03:56pm |
re: #300 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
What were you picking up on your transistor radio?
I found a half melted one in the garbage that still worked, and I was picking up Kool and the Gang, and Bocephus.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 11:13:25pm |
re: #302 Slumbering Behemoth
I was a teen during the Satanic Panic of the 80's. I can relate.
That's the part about parents who think they can mold their children into perfect little [insert political/religious affiliation here] that cracks me up. Like those kids won't successfully seek out and enjoy such forbidden fruit of their own free will.
Of course, there are influences and substances that a conscientious parent should be wary of and protect their children from, but the arts?
Yeah, the conventional wisdom is, limit the choices to one thing. Then tell them they have free will lol
You better exercise your free will to do exactly as you're told, or else!
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jul 11, 2011 11:14:43pm |
re: #303 engineer dog
motown and rock and fucking roll! yeah!
Sounds good to me. Did it seem very subversive, or was it just dang good music. Or both/neither?
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The Ghost of a Flea Mon, Jul 11, 2011 11:24:31pm |
re: #299 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
None of these concern-troll cons like the Manhattan Institute ever had any problems with so-called "government overreach" or inefficiency or taxes or bloated government until the legal end of jim crow. That kind of bloated government overreach, and the judicial activism that made it possible, was just fine with them.
What I don't like is the way the word culture is used as vehicle for "...people behaving the way I want them to" or "...the values I project onto the past/present and will now pretend were/are universal and capital-T true (therefor people who disagree with me are capital-W Wrong).
I've seen Marxists, anarchists, conservatives, religious folk, et ceterra, all use this construct of "culture" as camoflauge for an authoritarian agenda where they get to "rectify" everybody's else's life choices and options. It is always bullshit.
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engineer cat Mon, Jul 11, 2011 11:26:12pm |
re: #306 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Sounds good to me. Did it seem very subversive, or was it just dang good music. Or both/neither?
it was disreputable, subversive, and most excellent. it cut through the bullshit of suburbia and musak like a hot knife with a fine ass with a saucy wiggle. our parents hated it and barely tolerated our listening to it, and said knowingly to each other that when we grew up we would realize that it was just noise for kids and appreciate perry como and rogers and hammerstein
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jul 11, 2011 11:29:50pm |
re: #305 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
When I became a teenager and exercised much more of that free will (read: rebellion), as is perfectly natural and necessary in the course of human development, I began 'receiving' a lot of religious, woo woo counseling.
And a lot of Jack Chick comic books. I still have this one.
It was truly pathetic.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jul 12, 2011 12:29:39am |
re: #307 The Ghost of a Flea
culture
...
I've seen Marxists, anarchists, conservatives, religious folk, et ceterra, all use this construct of "culture" as camoflauge for an authoritarian agenda where they get to "rectify" everybody's else's life choices and options. It is always bullshit.
In the abstract, there's not a whole lot of difference between doctrinal purity/orthodoxy, purge-happy socialists and McCarthyites, and political correctness. Take it from someone who fought and survived both Christian fundagelicalism and the moralistic feminism/monosexuality wars and left both sects of fundos in the dust decades ago.
Difference is, those who used to be derided as PC (and I've been derided as such for most of my adult life despite never believing or endorsing it), have never roped in the state to punish or eliminate those who don't comply.
And now that the rwnj are appropriating old PC rhetoric for their reactionary, Victorian era ends, well, it's going to get very interesting.
It all looks the same to me, regardless of what corner it's coming from.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jul 12, 2011 12:35:08am |
re: #308 engineer dog
it was disreputable, subversive, and most excellent. it cut through the bullshit of suburbia and musak like a hot knife with a fine ass with a saucy wiggle. our parents hated it and barely tolerated our listening to it, and said knowingly to each other that when we grew up we would realize that it was just noise for kids and appreciate perry como and rogers and hammerstein
Yeah, I love me some Perry. (And in my book, there is no more perfect a person than Ms. Charisse.)
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jul 12, 2011 12:38:24am |
re: #311 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Yeah, I love me some Perry. (And in my book, there is no more perfect a person than Ms. Charisse.)
[Video]
From the same movie...the Velvet Fog himself
And this is FUCKING AWESOME.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jul 12, 2011 12:48:10am |
re: #309 Slumbering Behemoth
When I became a teenager and exercised much more of that free will (read: rebellion), as is perfectly natural and necessary in the course of human development, I began 'receiving' a lot of religious, woo woo counseling.
And a lot of Jack Chick comic books. I still have this one.
It was truly pathetic.
I remember those Chick comics. I had the whole series. To me, one of the grand ironies of all this anti-teacher anti-public school yapping the rwnj does is, my mother (a public schoolteacher) used to take her kids on tours of Chick Publications, both in Chino and Rancho KooKKoomonga. Oh yay, today we are going on a field trip to one of the worst anti-Catholic conspiracy theory propaganda houses in America, whee ain't that swell.
How in blazes she got away with that year after year, I'll never know. Hopefully, she got a smackdown for it, but I kind of doubt it. Whackodoodle environment, whackodoodle behavior.
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Fozzie Bear Tue, Jul 12, 2011 6:15:01am |
re: #123 Dark_Falcon
Walker's no failure, and even Rahm Emmanuel is demanding concessions from the teacher's union. Walker's actions will be remembers well in time, and that time will be soon. Lower taxes, more jobs, and a more flexible government that spends less. What's not to like?
Teacher's Unions don't even begin to approach being a significant part of the fiscal problems our country faces. You are talking about a drop in an ocean, forget about buckets.
As for taxes, how low is low enough? Where's the floor? How little governance will you accept as appropriate?
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JeffM70 Tue, Jul 12, 2011 6:31:17am |
It drives me crazy to see idiots like Rick Perry complain about moral relativism without realizing how often they use moral relativism to justify their own beliefs.
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