Boehner vs. Tea Party - Boehner Loses

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The Tea Party contingent in the House of Representatives gave John Boehner another public spanking today: Vote shows Boehner’s lack of control.

House Republicans tried a fresh strategy Wednesday night: Go it alone on a spending bill.

The result was an embarrassing setback.

Wednesday night’s rank-and-file rebuke of GOP leadership — with 48 Republicans bolting on a temporary spending bill — underscored the fact that the House Republican majority is still struggling to find unity on major spending bills. It also showed they still need Democratic votes to help them govern.

The pressure from an angry Speaker John Boehner didn’t work — he even threatened to strip committee assignments. Four dozen Republicans —mostly conservatives — wanted more cuts, and they just said no, creating an uncomfortable scene on the House floor as the funding bill failed on a 195-230 vote. Democrats showed a rare moment of unity in overwhelmingly opposing the continuing resolution, which would keep the government funded through Nov. 18.

Now, to prevent a government shutdown, Republicans will have to rewrite the bill and figure out how to get the votes.

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51 comments
1 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:05:40am

Boehner’s lack of control

(sob!)

2 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:07:02am

Could it be that the GOP will have to become just a little reasonable because they will have to deal with Dems? Amazing.

3 Four More Tears  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:09:06am

After how many failed bills does everyone finally just acknowledge that Boehner is very very bad at being Speaker?

4 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:10:16am

re: #3 JasonA

After how many failed bills does everyone finally just acknowledge that Boehner is very very bad at being Speaker?

You are clearly racist against orange skinned freaks without souls like Boehner! The have feelings too! Not hearts or souls, but feelings!

5 Flounder  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:10:20am

re: #1 engineer dog

Depends

they make undergarments for elected officials too

6 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:10:50am

figure out how to get the votes

so you're implying that the tea party doesn't get to dictate policy unilaterally and own the future just because republicans took over the house in the last election?

that's not what i heard

7 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:11:11am

On a serious note we can only pray that the coming teabag split in the GOP heats up enough in the next ten months to split the party.

8 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:12:50am
Now, to prevent a government shutdown, Republicans will have to rewrite the bill and figure out how to get the votes.

Anything radical enough to pass the house will never make it in the senate. If the GOP was just playing games it wouldn't be so bad but this is just incompetence. I'll be very surprised if they pass anything reasonable.

9 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:13:37am

Republicans failing to vote lock step with each other while possessing a large enough majority to insure victory if only they managed to all agree on what they wanted?

Must.... restrain.... schadenfreude....

10 Kragar  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:14:21am

Any deal attempted by Boehner should be ignored by the Democrats unless he pays off his side of the deal first. They can't be trusted to keep their word at a later date.

11 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:14:44am

And in the mean time, there is serious work to be done by sober individuals to address the nation's many problems. This is what the GOP gets for turning crazy and allowing astroturfed imbeciles, incompetent to be on the PTA, into positions of actual authority.

12 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:17:06am

re: #7 LudwigVanQuixote

On a serious note we can only pray that the coming teabag split in the GOP heats up enough in the next ten months to split the party.

After months of a Republican nomination race that struggled to catch fire, Rick Perry and Mitt Romney are now locked in a fight they both predict will extend well into 2012.

Republicans expect a split decision in the early voting states with neither Perry, the Tea Party favorite, nor Romney, the establishment candidate, able to land a knock-out blow for the Republican presidential nomination.

looks like that's what's happening

it seems to me that the perrygasm has now peaked, but the wingnuts will hang on to him for dear life because they will never - never! - vote for a socialist liberal socialist like romney

13 Lidane  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:18:14am

re: #7 LudwigVanQuixote

On a serious note we can only pray that the coming teabag split in the GOP heats up enough in the next ten months to split the party.

Just wait. If Obama wins a second term, the infighting in the GOP will be epic.

14 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:18:55am

Speaker Boehner: ‘No Threat of Government Shutdown’

“There’s no threat of government shutdown,” Boehner, R-Ohio, said confidently. “This continuing resolution was designed to be a bipartisan bill, and we had every reason to believe that our counterparts across the aisle were supportive. Once they began to see where some of our votes were, they decided to play politics and vote against disaster relief for millions of Americans who have been affected by this.”

15 tomg51spence  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:19:16am

re: #7 LudwigVanQuixote

On a serious note we can only pray that the coming teabag split in the GOP heats up enough in the next ten months to split the party.

Interesting. Would a Romney nomination lead to more tea-partiers being elected to balance him out, and a Perry or Palin nomination lead to more moderates elected in republican districts.

16 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:20:21am

When is the debate tonight?

And what channel?

Sitting in Sweden and hoping for CNN so I can watch it on cable.

17 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:21:10am

re: #14 Killgore Trout

Yeah it's not like they made a deal the Democrats that they're breaking now, or anything. Really. You can trust them.

18 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:21:19am

re: #15 tomg51spence

Interesting. Would a Romney nomination lead to more tea-partiers being elected to balance him out, and a Perry or Palin nomination lead to more moderates elected in republican districts.

.. Moderate Republican?

In 2011?

I beg your pardon?

19 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:21:19am

re: #15 tomg51spence

Interesting. Would a Romney nomination lead to more tea-partiers being elected to balance him out, and a Perry or Palin nomination lead to more moderates elected in republican districts.

A Romney nomination might lead to a Tea Party third party challenger, but from what I've seen there just aren't enough reasonable/moderate republicans (or those that are out there aren't being loud enough) to launch a credible challenge to a crazy GOP candidate, they'd be more likely to vote for Obama or just stay home.

20 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:22:56am

re: #14 Killgore Trout

I think I get now why the GOP and their media allies like to talk about "Taqiyya" so much. It's just more of their projection. It's fine for Perry to lie and claim that the stimulus created not a single job. It's an obvious, total, idiotic lie, but it's fine for him to say it-- even though everyone knows it's a lie-- because it's in the service of his ideology.

Shouldn't it worry the GOP that they closely resemble what they profess to hate?

21 allegro  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:24:00am

re: #14 Killgore Trout

Speaker Boehner: ‘No Threat of Government Shutdown’

Boehner is whining about Democratic obstruction? Really?

Hahahahaha! I love that. Really. I do.

22 Cinnabar  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:24:09am

re: #9 jamesfirecat

Republicans failing to vote lock step with each other while possessing a large enough majority to insure victory if only they managed to all agree on what they wanted?

Must... restrain... schadenfreude...

Indeed. But this would be much more fun if we weren't the ones getting screwed.

23 Kragar  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:24:28am

re: #17 Obdicut

Yeah it's not like they made a deal the Democrats that they're breaking now, or anything. Really. You can trust them.

I trust Boehner to keep a deal and reign in the Tea Party as much as I trust Abbas to control Hamas and keep them from firing rockets from Gaza.

24 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:24:28am

re: #16 HAL2010

When is the debate tonight?

And what channel?

Sitting in Sweden and hoping for CNN so I can watch it on cable.

ithink it's 9pm eastern time, should be on CNN.

25 Lidane  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:24:55am

re: #14 Killgore Trout

Speaker Boehner: ‘No Threat of Government Shutdown’

My first thought when I read this is that Boehner is Mr. Stubborn:

26 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:25:06am

re: #24 Killgore Trout

ithink it's 9pm eastern time, should be on CNN.

Cheers!

27 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:25:30am

re: #15 tomg51spence

Interesting. Would a Romney nomination lead to more tea-partiers being elected to balance him out, and a Perry or Palin nomination lead to more moderates elected in republican districts.

I don't know for sure... I think that it would go district by district. Deep red and rural would likely go more fundie teabag. Other areas would go more libertarian teabag. Other areas would go more traditional corporate GOP that pays lipservice to both.

What matters then is that as a fragmented party, the GOP would eviscerate itself in presidential elections. I personally predict a teabag revolt of some sort in the wake of a Romney election and a corporate, "what? you are cutting OUR federal money?!?" revolt in the wake of a Perry nomination - though that would be slower and more subtle.

Either way though, it ultimately weakens the bad guys. I am praying for the so far abated GOP mass self cannibalism event to come sooner rather than later.

28 Kragar  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:25:41am

re: #24 Killgore Trout

ithink it's 9pm eastern time, should be on CNN.

Another "debate"?

29 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:27:18am

re: #28 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Another "debate"?

A derp duel.

30 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:27:19am

re: #24 Killgore Trout

ithink it's 9pm eastern time, should be on CNN.

If I've got it right, thats five hours difference compared to Sweden then.
So two at night.

I'm going to go ahead and say .. maybe

31 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:28:33am

re: #20 Obdicut

I think I get now why the GOP and their media allies like to talk about "Taqiyya" so much. It's just more of their projection. It's fine for Perry to lie and claim that the stimulus created not a single job. It's an obvious, total, idiotic lie, but it's fine for him to say it-- even though everyone knows it's a lie-- because it's in the service of his ideology.

Shouldn't it worry the GOP that they closely resemble what they profess to hate?

Yes, the whiny projection of GOP types is astonishing in its breadth and depth.

32 makeitstop  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:29:14am

re: #14 Killgore Trout

Speaker Boehner: ‘No Threat of Government Shutdown’

Hahaha. Point that finger, asshole.

33 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:30:38am

re: #30 HAL2010

If I've got it right, thats five hours difference compared to Sweden then.
So two at night.

I'm going to go ahead and say .. maybe

You are in a beautiful country with gorgeous blondes, sound energy and fiscal policy and some respect for science. You don't really need to sully your night with rat turds.

34 tomg51spence  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:31:47am

My guess is that a Romney nomination will bring congressional tea party challengers out of the woodwork. Perry, I don't know -some republicans may be encouraged to go all out, others may just turn it all off.

35 Kragar  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:32:44am

re: #29 Killgore Trout

A derp duel.

An actual debate would be informative and entertaining. These things are just venues for them to push out soundbites.

36 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:33:03am

re: #33 LudwigVanQuixote

You are in a beautiful country with gorgeous blondes, sound energy and fiscal policy and some respect for science. You don't really need to sully your night with rat turds.

I've got a seminar tomorrow on the rise of Chinese Nationalism after 1989, I could do with watching something fun before the serious stuff.

And you know what they say about Swedish women?

Well, its all true. In a good way, of course.

37 makeitstop  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:33:25am

re: #28 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Another "debate"?

I really don't understand why the TGOP feels they need to have 50 debates this early in the cycle.

It's got to be something else - probably the media trying to curry favor with the whack-jobs. Maybe they think that giving the Teahadis unlimited face time will ingratiate them with the wingnut demographic.

38 Kragar  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:33:26am
39 Targetpractice  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:37:05am

re: #14 Killgore Trout

Speaker Boehner: ‘No Threat of Government Shutdown’

What's the matter, Mr. Speaker? Your ass still sore from Pelosi spanking it yesterday by publicly calling you out over the stupidity of demanding disaster relief be "paid for," while there was no effort to "pay for" Iraq and Afghanistan or Medicare Part D?

40 allegro  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:45:30am

re: #39 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

What's the matter, Mr. Speaker? Your ass still sore from Pelosi spanking it yesterday by publicly calling you out over the stupidity of demanding disaster relief be "paid for," while there was no effort to "pay for" Iraq and Afghanistan or Medicare Part D?

No, no, no, don't you see? It's the Democrats obstructing that means people won't get their disaster relief.

Boehner: Once they began to see where some of our votes were, they decided to play politics and vote against disaster relief for millions of Americans who have been affected by this.

41 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:47:03am

re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Perry rewrites history, claims he never advocated secession

What you mean he lied... and he assumes that Americans have the memory capacities of goldfish? Shocka!

42 Targetpractice  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:47:47am

re: #40 allegro

No, no, no, don't you see? It's the Democrats obstructing that means people won't get their disaster relief.

Yeah, the Democrats not only refused to vote for the bill, they managed to convince 48 Tea Partiers to rise up and snub the party leadership. Damn, Pelosi is a political genius!

/

43 dragonfire1981  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:49:58am

I always suspected many Republicans had underestimated the Tea Party.

I also always suspected that it would come back to bite them in the ass in spectacular fashion.

Hmmm...

I wonder what I'll "suspect" next.

44 Kragar  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:52:41am

re: #41 LudwigVanQuixote

What you mean he lied... and he assumes that Americans have the memory capacities of goldfish? Shocka!

But look at his hair! How can you not be impressed by the hair?

45 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 10:55:43am

Boehner: "No Threat of Government Shut-down".

Tea Party: "Opportunity of Government Shut-down".

46 darthstar  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 11:01:22am

To quote Rachel Maddow, "John Boehner is really, really bad at his job."

47 Mattand  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 11:40:25am

re: #21 allegro

Boehner is whining about Democratic obstruction? Really?

Hahahahaha! I love that. Really. I do.

The conservatives I know will absolutely take this tactic. This is the same shit I heard in August. You've a got a core group of Republicans purposely precipitating government funding crises. Yet the people who support them, instead of spine-ing up and admitting their party triggered this mess, will pull the whole "it's everyone's fault/all politicians suck" gambit.

These same GOP supporters wouldn't punish all of their kids if only one did something bad. Yet when it comes to the shortcomings of their chosen party, they bury their heads so far in the sand they split their heads open when striking bedrock.

48 Mattand  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 11:42:34am

re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Perry rewrites history, claims he never advocated secession

LOL, I'm never sure whether to vote up or down on these posts. Since the subject matter is Perry lying, I want to vote down. But if I vote up, does it appear I agree with Perry?

Yes, I am that neurotic...

49 leftynyc  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 12:24:02pm

re: #12 engineer dog

After months of a Republican nomination race that struggled to catch fire, Rick Perry and Mitt Romney are now locked in a fight they both predict will extend well into 2012.

Republicans expect a split decision in the early voting states with neither Perry, the Tea Party favorite, nor Romney, the establishment candidate, able to land a knock-out blow for the Republican presidential nomination.

looks like that's what's happening

it seems to me that the perrygasm has now peaked, but the wingnuts will hang on to him for dear life because they will never - never! - vote for a socialist liberal socialist like romney

Plenty of wingnuts are still waiting for caribou barbie to announce she's running to save the country. Her newest pitch to send her money is freeking hilarious and will, for sure, beef up her bank account while she strings along her merry band of morons.

[Link: caucuses.desmoinesregister.com...]

50 Amory Blaine  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 1:41:34pm

re: #44 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

It really is newspeak coming out of Washington.

51 Hal_10000  Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:02:06pm

Ahem, did you guys read this part?

Democrats, including Appropriations Ranking Democrat Norm Dicks, said they’d support the bill, but reversed course because of pressure from Democrats opposed to an offset that cut a subsidy for automobile manufacturers.

II think Boehner has a legitimate beef here with the Democrats. He tried to bypass the radical wing of his own party to get a reasonable budget. And the Democrats bailed on him. And their excuse is that they wanted more corporate welfare?


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