Truth . . .

seems to be in the eye of the beholder these days.

Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it.

Masochism. Straight up masochism.

I:

truth:

And as the page turns,
so too the head rests upon the pillow
While the night learns
where the wind has taken the willow

Meh, I'll putter with those lines some time when I'm sober. G'night.

Goodnight wlewisiii...

And what a great day for women it was.

Truth: [This statement suppressed due to non-disclosure agreements with Herman Cain]

People who cry racism are the real racists.

Women who cry sexual harassment are the real sexual harassers. just doing it for the money.

Got it.

I'm too tired to be philosophical tonite.

Going to sleep.

Have a great evening/morning all!

swete musick appropriate for dedd threddes

having divers swete hippenesse

re: #8 BigPapa

People who cry racism are the real racists.

Women who cry sexual harassment are the real sexual harassers. just doing it for the money.

Got it.

Except when it's white conservatives complaining about the racism of sexual harassers' targets.

Then it's reeeaaaallll e_e

Morning, all

re: #15 freetoken

Perfect.

TY

from a Balloon Juice comment:

today’s conservatism is the opposite of what liberals want today: updated daily.

I'm going to talk about HanDover some more.

While Cullorblind is still a just... stunning track, I think a few bits on the album have surprassed it. namely, Ashas is the best song on the record, followed by Vyrisis, followed by Cullorblind and Wavy (tied)

re: #17 WindUpBird

I don't see much difference between today's conservatism and flat-out sociopathy, tbh.

Yesterday's either lol

Morning (limited) honcos.

Why are we shooting out our only rememdy?!

Teen accused in Chamberlain rape to be released without bail
TAMPA --

The teenager accused of dragging a fellow Chamberlain High School student into a bathroom and raping her was released from jail today, deputies said.

Bail for Joshua Deandre Bynum, 16, was set last month at $100,000. But during a hearing Tuesday it was agreed he would be released without bail if he followed certain requirements.

As part of the agreement Bynum, who is charged with sexual battery and kidnapping, must wear a GPS monitor, stay home between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m. and attend a different school than the victim, state attorney's spokesman Mark Cox said.

The agreement was made with consent of the victim's mother, who didn't want her daughter to have to appear in court Tuesday, Cox said.

Police said Bynum spotted the 16-year-old victim walking in the school's hallway Oct. 3 and began following her.

The girl, who had a hall pass for the bathroom, walked past the school's gym. That's when police said Bynum grabbed her, dragged her into a bathroom and sexually assaulted her. Then, police said, Bynum returned to class.
[Link: www2.tbo.com...]

So, they're letting this kid back into skool? I'm hoping it's one for kids in trouble with the law, not just a randon high skool. What fucking bullshit.

And here is the original story:
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

Authorities did a medical exam and interviewed the young woman and her suspected attacker, an acquaintance, after Monday's incident. That evening, police arrested Joshua Bynum, 16, on charges of sexual battery and kidnapping. Police say his statements were inconsistent and were refuted by a medical test.

re: #22 Cannadian Club Akbar

Until he's convicted, they can't put him in any sort of juvie school, I believe.

His father said that Bynum said the sex was consensual. Either a gullible father, or that's where his son gets his ethics from.

In addition to the anti-intellectual bullshit we have in the US destroying our educational system, we also have a discipline problem. I know this is far more severe than bullying, but it's happening in the same environment. The indulgence of anti-social behavior is a bad, bad thing.

re: #22 Cannadian Club Akbar

arrrrrrrrggggg.... no shame.... no soul....

re: #23 Obdicut

I know his dad said it was consensual, but this line does follow:
Police say evidence and interviews show otherwise.

And don't get me wrong, I know parents want to give their kids the benefit of the doubt. My mom would pretty much believe anything I told her. But still, to go from 100K bail to being released isn't common, juvie or otherwise.

re: #25 Cannadian Club Akbar

The bail issue I'm just ignorant about and happy to accept your word on. The consensual part-- I was taking it as a given that it was non-consensual, which is why I called his dad either gullible or the source of his son's ethics.

Why do you think the bail was granted? Just more permissiveness of sexual misconduct, or special treatment for some reason?

re: #25 Cannadian Club Akbar

I know his dad said it was consensual, but this line does follow:
Police say evidence and interviews show otherwise.

And don't get me wrong, I know parents want to give their kids the benefit of the doubt. My mom would pretty much believe anything I told her. But still, to go from 100K bail to being released isn't common, juvie or otherwise.

A lot of my daughter's students in juvie jail are awaiting trial. As is normally the case, we're getting a fragment of the facts. Flawed as it is, the system usually has some rationale behind it.

re: #26 Obdicut

re: #27 Decatur Deb

I'm wondering if the kids lawyer knew the girl wouldn't appear in court if a bail reduction hearing was held. If so, I don't blame the lawyer for doing his job. But the victim's mother agreed to the release, either to keep her daughter out of it, or maybe some new fact did come out. But the girls initial reaction to this wasn't one of a girl trying to get someone in trouble.

Then he returned to class. The girl, shaken and crying, found Chamberlain High School's police resource officer.

Can this be faked? Yes. Probability? IMO, low.

re: #28 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #27 Decatur Deb

I'm wondering if the kids lawyer knew the girl wouldn't appear in court if a bail reduction hearing was held. If so, I don't blame the lawyer for doing his job. But the victim's mother agreed to the release, either to keep her daughter out of it, or maybe some new fact did come out. But the girls initial reaction to this wasn't one of a girl trying to get someone in trouble.

Then he returned to class. The girl, shaken and crying, found Chamberlain High School's police resource officer.

Can this be faked? Yes. Probability? IMO, low.

Not suggesting it's a fake, just that a whole lot of things are involved in bail, like his likelihood to make court and to present a continuing threat. Don't argue with me--I've watched Law'n Order for years.

re: #28 Cannadian Club Akbar

Didn't Florida lose a lot of juvenile detention capacity after the Panama City boot camp fatality?

re: #29 Decatur Deb

Not suggesting it's a fake, just that a whole lot of things are involved in bail, like his likelihood to make court and to present a continuing threat. Don't argue with me--I've watched Law'n Order for years.

Me too. I remember S. Empatha Merkerson was originally cast as a maid whose son was killed. The following year? Captain. Hollywood promotes from within very quickly.
/

re: #30 Decatur Deb

Didn't Florida lose a lot of juvenile detention capacity after the Panama City boot camp fatality?

I honestly don't know. I do know there were all kids of problems with juvie boot camp, including around here.

re: #31 Cannadian Club Akbar

Me too. I remember S. Empatha Merkerson was originally cast as a maid whose son was killed. The following year? Captain. Hollywood promotes from within very quickly.
/

Loved their casting--a regular stable like SEM and wild guest roles like Jerry Lewis and Chevy Chase. The greatest triumph has moving Munch from Baltimore Homicide to NYC.

re: #32 Cannadian Club Akbar

I honestly don't know. I do know there were all kids of problems with juvie boot camp, including around here.

I think they shut down all or many. After the PC screwup CNN pulled up at the daughter's jail (Part of a multi-state investigative report). They filmed, interviewed, and moved on to Texas. Her place was never mentioned on-air.

re: #33 Decatur Deb

Loved their casting--a regular stable like SEM and wild guest roles like Jerry Lewis and Chevy Chase. The greatest triumph has moving Munch from Baltimore Homicide to NYC.

Did you ever watch "The Practice"? Best guest star ever: John Laroquette. Stabs his boyfriend in the chest with a butcher knife and gets away with it. Then, he does it again a year later. Heh.

re: #32 Cannadian Club Akbar

I honestly don't know. I do know there were all kids of problems with juvie boot camp, including around here.

kids= kinds, pimf. And I ain't gonna bother with the pencil.:)

re: #35 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did you ever watch "The Practice"? Best guest star ever: John Laroquette. Stabs his boyfriend in the chest with a butcher knife and gets away with it. Then, he does it again a year later. Heh.

Missed that, but I loved Laroquette's bus-station gig.
"This is a Dark Ride."

re: #37 Decatur Deb

Missed that, but I loved Laroquette's bus-station gig.
"This is a Dark Ride."

There was a woman on that show who was SOOOOOO hot. Odd name. Can't remember it.

re: #38 Cannadian Club Akbar

There was a woman on that show who was SOOO hot. Odd name. Can't remember it.

Gigi Rice.
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re: #39 Cannadian Club Akbar

Gigi Rice.
Image: GigiRice.jpg

Wiki'd it--she married him IRL.

Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it.

— Emily Dickinson

A recent study showed that the average person tells 88,000 lies in their lifetime.

I don't think that number included internets and politicians.

"I didn't have sex with that woman."

re: #41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A recent study showed that the average person tells 88,000 lies in their lifetime.

I don't think that number included internets and politicians.

You are a very handsome man.

re: #42 ralphieboy

"I didn't have sex with that woman."

And we believe you.

re: #41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A recent study showed that the average person tells 88,000 lies in their lifetime.

I don't think that number included internets and politicians.

I think I went over that number in a single explanation to my parents as to why I was coming home at one in the morning.

re: #40 Decatur Deb

Wiki'd it--she married him IRL.

More Wiki doesn't support that, since this is a 'truth' thread.

re: #45 Obdicut

I think I went over that number in a single explanation to my parents as to why I was coming home at one in the morning.

This is were you hand your father an empty condom wrapper and say, "Sorry I'm late. And BTW, these come in three packs, so I might be late again tomorrow night". Heh.

re: #45 Obdicut

I think I went over that number in a single explanation to my parents as to why I was coming home at one in the morning.

You know, I'm an honest guy. But, honestly? I lie ALL the time.

Yesterday, I told a masterful, clever lie that helped a person, and made some money for me. The truth would have never gotten them where they wanted to be.

re: #47 Cannadian Club Akbar

This is were you hand your father an empty condom wrapper and say, "Sorry I'm late. And BTW, these come in three packs, so I might be late again tomorrow night". Heh.

Definition of a dilemma?

Your 17 year old daughter comes home at 3am with a Gideon Bible under her arm.

I’ve had arguments with people, but I never carry a grudge. Know why? While you’re carrying a grudge? They’re out dancing.
-Buddy Hackett

re: #47 Cannadian Club Akbar

This is were you hand your father an empty condom wrapper and say, "Sorry I'm late. And BTW, these come in three packs, so I might be late again tomorrow night". Heh.

Son comes in at 3am. Father is waiting up, demainding an explanation.

"Well, father," the son starts, "I guess I should tell you the truth. I had my first sexual experience this evening."

"Well, that's different," replies the father. "Have a drink and sit down and tell me about it."

To which the son replies, "I would like to sit down, father, but my butt is really sore!"

re: #47 Cannadian Club Akbar

This is were you hand your father an empty condom wrapper and say, "Sorry I'm late. And BTW, these come in three packs, so I might be late again tomorrow night". Heh.

"Never let your girlfriend move anything into your apartment. If she wants to bring a toothbrush, give her one--from a fresh 6-pack."

--some 60s radio comedian

re: #51 ralphieboy

Guy walks into a bar. Tells bartender, "Give me six shots of tequila! I'm celebrating my first blow-job."
Bartender says, "Sure, congrats. I'll toss in an extra on the house!"
Guys says, "Nah. Six'll get the taste out."

re: #48 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Christine "bad theology" O'Donnel betrayed her ignorance when she said you should never ever lie, even to the Gestapo about where Jews are hiding.

The Bible forbids us to "bear false witness against our neighbor", which means the sort of malicious lie that brings harm to them. There are a lot of lies that do not fall under that category, like lying to the Gestapo...

yo, nevermore

re: #55 Sergey Romanov

yo, nevermore

What are you crowing about?

re: #55 Sergey Romanov

That's So Raven.

re: #54 ralphieboy

Christine "bad theology" O'Donnel betrayed her ignorance when she said you should never ever lie, even to the Gestapo about where Jews are hiding.

The Bible forbids us to "bear false witness against our neighbor", which means the sort of malicious lie that brings harm to them. There are a lot of lies that do not fall under that category, like lying to the Gestapo...

Christine must read the Cliff's notes version, the so-called Living Bible.

"You must not lie" (Exodus 20:16, TLB).

re: #53 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Guy walking into a bar, orders 5 shots. Bartender ask if everything is OK. Guy says, "I just found out my brother is gay".
A week later same guy walks into the same bar and orders 10 shots. Bartender ask if everything is OK. Guy says, "I just found out my other brother is gay".
A week later guy walks into the same bar and orders 15 shots. Bartender says "Doesn't anyone in your family like women"? Guy says, "Yea, my sister".

re: #59 Cannadian Club Akbar

The logic of that joke implies that the guy himself is also gay.

I think he just likes to drink a lot.

re: #56 Decatur Deb

re: #57 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Was just going old skool. Can't stand modernism.//

(h/t:Obdi)

re: #60 Obdicut

The logic of that joke implies that the guy himself is also gay.

I think he just likes to drink a lot.

OK.
A guy walks into a bar in Wyoming. He orders 2 drafts and sits in a corner and drinks his beers. A week later he goes into the same bar, orders 2 drafts, sits in the corner and drinks his beers. The following week he goes into the bar, orders 2 drafts. The bartender says, "I can give you those beers one at a time if you'd like". Guy explains, "Well, my one brother is a cowboy in Utah, the other is a cowboy in Arizona. We would usually sit down and all have a beer together. But since they're not here, I have one for them". Bartender says, "Well, wouldn't you need 3 beers for that?" Guy says, "No, I'm a Southern Baptist, so I don't drink".

Image: Dr.-Dre-is-a-poor-source-for-animal-care-advice.png

re: #48 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I lie ALL the time.

You lie.

re: #63 Sergey Romanov

Image: Dr.-Dre-is-a-poor-source-for-animal-care-advice.png

Had him confused with Dr. Drew. Never could keep the pop bullshitters straight.

re: #62 Cannadian Club Akbar

One of the most common things I heard as a bartender was "I never get drunk!"

From very drunk people.

Alrighty. Gotta run. Wish me luck.

re: #67 Cannadian Club Akbar

Alrighty. Gotta run. Wish me luck.

Good luck, whatever good you're up to.

My MIL thought of herself as a very strict Baptist. Wife took sadistic pleasure in explaining the chemistry of her brandied fruit jar. She tossed it.

re: #69 Decatur Deb

My MIL thought of herself as a very strict Baptist. Wife took sadistic pleasure in explaining the chemistry of her brandied fruit jar. She tossed it.

I don't exactly know what this is, suppose a sort of conservation, but doesn't the name "brandied" kinda softly gives a hint?

re: #67 Cannadian Club Akbar

Alrighty. Gotta run. Wish me luck.

Good luck running from whatever you're running from.

re: #69 Decatur Deb

My MIL thought of herself as a very strict Baptist. Wife took sadistic pleasure in explaining the chemistry of her brandied fruit jar. She tossed it.

Does she also not eat bread?

BTW, Obdi, I managed to split the file. Loaded it in Word and ran a VBA script I found somewhere. Worked for a few hours, but in the end I ended up with 621 .docx. I wanted .txt, but I guess that'll do.

re: #70 Sergey Romanov

I don't exactly know what this is, suppose a sort of conservation, but doesn't the name "brandied" kinda softly gives a hint?

It's a recipe that combines only sugar, fruit, and time. She didn't know about the wild yeast that does the magic.

re: #74 Decatur Deb

It's a recipe that combines only sugar, fruit, and time. She didn't know about the wild yeast that does the magic.

You have the recipe?

re: #72 Obdicut

Does she also not eat bread?

I was terribly shocked and dismayed my first Pesach week in Israel, when I found out that the stores treat beer as bread.

re: #73 Sergey Romanov

PS: that coder's Java didn't work. Was always out of heap.

re: #76 Decatur Deb

I was terribly shocked and dismayed my first Pesach week in Israel, when I found out that the stores treat beer as bread.

Most hard liquor too.

re: #73 Sergey Romanov

Glad to hear it. Now you just need a batch converter to change docx to txt.

This claims to be able to do that.

[Link: www.softinterface.com...]

re: #75 Alouette

You have the recipe?

That is the recipe. (You start from canned fruit salad.)

re: #79 Obdicut

Glad to hear it. Now you just need a batch converter to change docx to txt.

This claims to be able to do that.

[Link: www.softinterface.com...]

Thanks. Actually docx may be even more suitable (tho I don't know at this moment). My plan is to upload it all on google docs for private use by our team. Speaking of that, if I upload x files to google docs, can I then give a single link and a password to my buddies, where they will see a full list of file names they can choose from? I can test it, but you've been using it longer than I.

re: #78 Alouette

Most hard liquor too.

Funny--I just don't remember liquor sales stores in Israel, unless they were there in the groceries.

re: #81 Sergey Romanov

Thanks. Actually docx may be even more suitable (tho I don't know at this moment). My plan is to upload it all on google docs for private use by our team. Speaking of that, if I upload x files to google docs, can I then give a single link and a password to my buddies, where they will see a full list of file names they can choose from? I can test it, but you've been using it longer than I.

No, if the documents are stored individually you'll have to share them individually. Also, there's no password-- the permission is simply keyed to their google login.

re: #81 Sergey Romanov

You could create a new google identity for the docx files, upload them all there to google docs with that identity as the owner, and then share that login and password. I do not know if this would violate Google's TOS and their multiple-IP catching security would probably make it uncomfortable.

You could use dropbox, and that might be more in line with what you want-- I think that'd allow you to define a group of documents with a single link and permission.

re: #53 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Guy runs into a bar, tells the bartender, "Quick give me six shots! Hurry!"
Bartender starts pouring, says, "What's the hurry?"
Guy says, as he drinks the second one, "I just left my doctor's office. If you had what I have? You'd be in a hurry too!"
Still pouring, the bartender says, "Oh, goodness. What do you have?"
Guy finishes the last shot, "Fifty cents!"

Morning Lizardim. What's new out there in the land of the odd?

Last night's "South Park" was the lamest episode I have ever seen.

re: #75 Alouette

You have the recipe?

Ah--consulted my wife. Forgot that you add a couple spoons of "starter" fruit that you get from a Catholic friend. That's the Kentucky Baptist equivalent of a 'Shabbos Goy'.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and predict that Killgore is going to be posting photos of the Oakland OWS events before the day is out.

Because, you know, he's concerned about the lawless elements in the group.

re: #84 Obdicut

Whenever I see someone explaining something "computer" on the web I think back to a communication experiment from the (IIRC) 5th grade (Bless you, Mrs. Caldwell, wherever you are. You were a great, creative teacher.)

Half of the class had to explain to a Martian (who can read and understand English) in writing, how to tie a shoe. No pictures or diagrams allowed.

Half of the class had to explain to a Martian verbally how to tie a shoe. No hand gestures or drawing allowed.

We knew we were in trouble when Mrs. Caldwell said (she was pretending to be the Martian), "What is a shoe?"

It was a most challenging assignment.

re: #85 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The French President, is sitting in his office when his telephone rings.

"Hallo, Mr. Sarkozy!" a heavily accented voice said. "This is Paddy down at the Harp Pub in County Clare, Ireland. I am ringing to inform you that we are officially declaring war on you!"

"Well, Paddy," Sarkozy replied, "This is indeed important news! How big is your army?"

"Right now," says Paddy, after a moment's calculation, "there is meself, me cousin Sean, me next door neighbour Seamus, and the entire darts team from the pub. That makes eight!"

Sarkozy paused. "I must tell you, Paddy, that I have 100,000 men in my army waiting to move on my command."

"Begoora!" says Paddy. "I'll have to ring you back."

Sure enough, the next day, Paddy calls again. "Mr. Sarkozy, the war is still on. We have managed to get us some infantry equipment!"

"And what equipment would that be Paddy?" Sarkozy asks.

"Well, we have two combines, a bulldozer, and Murphy's farm tractor."

Sarkozy sighs amused. "I must tell you, Paddy, that I have 6,000 tanks and 5,000 armored personnel carriers. Also, I have increased my army to 150,000 since we last spoke."

"Saints preserve us!" says Paddy. "I'll have to get back to you."

Sure enough, Paddy rings again the next day. "Mr. Sarkozy, the war is still on! We have managed to get ourselves airborne! We have modified Jackie McLaughlin's ultra-light with a couple of shotguns in the cockpit, and four boys from the Shamrock Bar have joined us as well!"

Sarkozy was silent for a minute and then cleared his throat. "I must tell you, Paddy, that I have 100 bombers and 200 fighter planes. My military bases are surrounded by laser-guided, surface-to-air missile sites. And since we last spoke, I have increased my army to 200,000!"

"Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!" says Paddy, "I will have to ring you back."

Sure enough, Paddy calls again the next day. "Top o' the mornin', Mr. Sarkozy! I am sorry to inform you that we have had to call off the war."

"Really? I am sorry to hear that," says Sarkozy. "Why the sudden change of heart?"

"Well," says Paddy, "we had a long chat over a few pints of Guinness, and we decided there is no fookin' way we can feed 200,000 prisoners.

re: #84 Obdicut

Thanks, will try.

re: #89 Talking Point Detective

What happened in Oakland?

re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've occasionally had, as part of my job description, the role of explaining to very untechnical people very technical concepts.

It is something I'm good at, but not something I enjoy. I do have a near endless amount of patience for it, partially because technology, on the whole, is so badly goddamn designed, usually a mishmash of convention and half-baked new ideas.

re: #91 NJDhockeyfan

I am totally stealing that one.

Daylight come, and the dog wants to leave home...BBL

re: #91 NJDhockeyfan

Why did whoever came up with that joke use the Irish? They're like the least successful nation ever, militarily. Or is that the joke-- the Irish grandiose schemes that generally amount to nothing?

Ireland's neutrality in WWII is still a rather large national embarrassment, except for those for whom it is no embarrassment whatsoever.

re: #93 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What happened in Oakland?

After a day of peaceful protesting, chaos ensued.

After Oakland's Occupy strike, some turn to chaos

A long day of mostly peaceful protest on Wednesday in Oakland descended into chaos after midnight. Masked vandals shattered windows, set fires and plastered downtown businesses with graffiti before police moved in, dispersing crowds with tear gas and concussive grenades and making mass arrests.

The street clashes - which hospitalized at least three protesters and left several officers with minor injuries - happened near Occupy Oakland's tent city in a plaza outside City Hall, which had been the center of Wednesday's "general strike." That event peaked when thousands of people angry at economic inequality marched to the Port of Oakland, shutting it down.

Most of those people had gone home by 11 p.m. Wednesday, when dozens of protesters took over a vacant 2-story building at 16th Street and Broadway - two blocks from the City Hall encampment - that once housed the nonprofit Travelers Aid Society.

Hundreds of others looked on as protesters barricaded the block at both ends with wooden pallets, trash cans, tables and tires. They hung banners from the building's roof, spray painted its exterior and chanted, "Whose street, our street!" One group of protesters broke cement blocks into baseball-size rocks.

Police had kept their distance from Occupy Oakland protesters since coming under scrutiny for deploying tear gas and concussive grenades, and firing projectiles, in a clash last week that left one demonstrator with a serious head injury. Police critics said officers used excessive force and violated city policies on crowd control.

But late Wednesday, hundreds of police officers responded to the area just before midnight. They found that protesters - many covering their faces with bandanas, and some in gas masks - had started a massive trash fire at 16th and Broadway that sent flames 15 feet high.

re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Whenever I see someone explaining something "computer" on the web I think back to a communication experiment from the (IIRC) 5th grade (Bless you, Mrs. Caldwell, wherever you are. You were a great, creative teacher.)

Half of the class had to explain to a Martian (who can read and understand English) in writing, how to tie a shoe. No pictures or diagrams allowed.

Half of the class had to explain to a Martian verbally how to tie a shoe. No hand gestures or drawing allowed.

We knew we were in trouble when Mrs. Caldwell said (she was pretending to be the Martian), "What is a shoe?"

It was a most challenging assignment.

Hehe. The key pretty much is always establishing the bounds of what is known in common in advance.

I took a Technical Writing course in college. That was an education in trying to write concise and detailed descriptions with an absolute minimum of words and phrases open to alternate interpretations. And an absolute killer following right on the tail of a Composition course that was trying to push creative writing where you avoided repeating things the same way in a dry manner... O_o

re: #97 Obdicut

Why did whoever came up with that joke use the Irish? They're like the least successful nation ever, militarily.

Ireland's neutrality in WWII is still a rather large national embarrassment, except for those for whom it is no embarrassment whatsoever.

Calm down, it's not a history lesson. It's a joke.

An Irish priest is driving down to New York and gets stopped for speeding in Connecticut.

The state trooper smells alcohol on the priest's breath and then sees an empty wine bottle on the floor of the car. He says, "Sir, have you been drinking?"

"Just water," says the priest.

The trooper says, "Then why do I smell wine?"

The priest looks at the bottle and says,
"Good Lord! He's done it again!"

re: #100 NJDhockeyfan

Calm down, it's not a history lesson. It's a joke.

I'm not sure why you think I'm not calm, but what I'm interested in about it is the jokey part-- see my edit above. You can take the joke as a dig on the French, as a lot of people probably foolishly will, but if you actually know history, it's a dig on the Irish.

Pretty nifty shibboleth, really.

re: #102 Obdicut

I'm not sure why you think I'm not calm, but what I'm interested in about it is the jokey part-- see my edit above. You can take the joke as a dig on the French, as a lot of people probably foolishly will, but if you actually know history, it's a dig on the Irish.

Pretty nifty shibboleth, really.

I like Irish jokes. My great-grandfather would be proud. :)

Here's one more...

Two Irishmen were adrift in a life boat following a dramatic escape from
a burning freighter. While rummaging through the boat's provisions, one
of the men stumbled across an old lamp. Secretly hoping that a genie
would appear, he rubbed the lamp vigorously. To the amazement of the
castaways, a genie came forth. This particular genie, however, stated
that he could only deliver one wish, not the standard three.

Without giving much thought to the matter the man blurted out, "Make the
entire ocean into beer!"

The genie clapped his hands with a deafening crash, and immediately the
entire sea turned into the finest brew ever sampled by mortals.

Simultaneously, the genie vanished. Only the gentle lapping of beer on
the hull broke the stillness as the men considered their circumstances.

One man looked disgustedly at the other whose wish had been granted.
After a long, tension filled moment, he spoke: "Nice going idiot! Now
we're going to have to piss in the boat."

re: #103 NJDhockeyfan

Two Irishmen were walking down the street one day. They saw an advertisement hanging in the window of a logging establishment that read, "Tree fellers wanted." They looked at each other, and the one says, "Blast, 'tis a pity there's only the two of us."

re: #103 NJDhockeyfan

The genie could have been more of a dick and turned the ocean into Budweiser, whereupon pissing in it would actually improve the taste.

re: #104 thedopefishlives

Padraic Flaherty came home drunk every evening toward ten.
Now, the Missus was never too happy about it, either.

So one night she hides in the cemetery and figures to scare the beejeezus out of him.

As poor Pat wanders by, up from behind a tombstone she jumps in a red devil costume screaming, "Padraic Sean Flaherty, sure and ya' don't give up you're drinkin' and it's to Hell I'll take ye'".

Pat, undaunted, staggered back and demanded, "Who the hell ARE you?".

Too that the Missus replied, "I'm the divil ya' damned old fool".

To which Flaherty remarked,
"Damned glad to meet you sir, I'm married to yer sister."

re: #102 Obdicut

I'm not sure why you think I'm not calm, but what I'm interested in about it is the jokey part-- see my edit above. You can take the joke as a dig on the French, as a lot of people probably foolishly will, but if you actually know history, it's a dig on the Irish.

Pretty nifty shibboleth, really.

It has been said that God created whiskey in order to prevent the Irish from taking over the world.

re: #106 NJDhockeyfan

good ones

re: #107 oaktree

It has been said that God created whiskey in order to prevent the Irish from taking over the world.

I more think of whiskey as a consolation prize to the Irish for being invaded and fucked over by everyone but the Romans, who it would have actually been useful to be invaded by.

re: #106 NJDhockeyfan

An Irishman walks into a bar one day and orders three shots. He closes his eyes and bows his head over them for a moment, then drinks them down in quick succession. The next day, he comes in and does the exact same thing, and the next day as well. By this point, the bartender is intrigued, so he asks the Irishman about it. "Well, I had these two buddies in the army, and when we split up, we agreed we'd drink to each other wherever we were, in memory of the good times we had." This continued for a few weeks, until one day, when the Irishman sat down at the bar, he gestured to the bartender and said, "No, only two this time." The bartender, curious, said, "What, did one of your buddies pass on?" "No, I quit drinking."

re: #110 thedopefishlives

#62

re: #111 Sergey Romanov

#62

Of course, that's what I get for not reading the whole thread before posting.

re: #97 Obdicut

Why did whoever came up with that joke use the Irish? They're like the least successful nation ever, militarily. Or is that the joke-- the Irish grandiose schemes that generally amount to nothing?

Ireland's neutrality in WWII is still a rather large national embarrassment, except for those for whom it is no embarrassment whatsoever.

I've heard the same joke, only it was Israel declaring war on the USSR.

re: #110 thedopefishlives

A man stumbles up to the only other patron in a bar and asks if he could buy him a drink.

"Why of course," comes the reply.

The first man then asks: "Where are you from?"

"I'm from Ireland," replies the second man.

The first man responds: "You don't say, I'm from Ireland too! Let's have another round to Ireland."

"Of Course," replies the second man. Curious, the first man then asks: "Where in Ireland are you from?" "Dublin," comes the reply.

"I can't believe it," says the first man. "I'm from Dublin too! Let's have another drink to Dublin."

"Of course," replies the second man. Curiosity again strikes and the first man asks: "What school did you go to?"

"Saint Mary's," replies the second man. "I graduated in '62."

"This is unbelievable!" the first man says. "I went to Saint Mary's and I graduated in '62, too!"

About that time in comes one of the regulars and sits down at the bar. "What's been going on?" he asks the bartender. "Nothing much," replies the bartender. "The O'Malley twins are drunk again."

re: #113 Alouette

I've heard the same joke, only it was Israel declaring war on the USSR.

Now that I think about it, it's a whole lot funnier with Israel and the USSR.

re: #115 Alouette

Now that I think about it, it's a whole lot funnier with Israel and the USSR.

Why do you hate the Irish?

//

Fun Father of the Bide and Bride dance:[Link: screen.yahoo.com...]

re: #116 NJDhockeyfan

Why do you hate the Irish?

//

THEY TKK RRR JKKS!

re: #84 Obdicut

Actually I just checked and yes, I can create a collection of files at gdocs and share them with one link (or by permission). Nifty.

re: #119 Sergey Romanov

Actually I just checked and yes, I can create a collection of files at gdocs and share them with one link (or by permission). Nifty.

How?

re: #120 Obdicut

How?

At docs.google.com in the left-side menu bar at the bottom are options for dealing with collections. Create a new one, move files there, share the collection.

re: #121 Sergey Romanov

At docs.google.com in the left-side menu bar at the bottom are options for dealing with collections. Create a new one, move files there, share the collection.

Right, but you can't share it with a password protection, right? You can only make it 'anyone with the link can access', right?

re: #122 Obdicut

That's what I said in #119. Password is not crucial, I can live with permission.

re: #123 Sergey Romanov

That's what I said in #119. Password is not crucial, I can live with permission.

Ah, okay. To me, the link isn't 'permission' since it can be spread promiscuously, it's just security through obscurity. If you're concerned about preventing people from seeing it, that setting won't help.

I guess I'm not understanding the scenario in which you're using the docs.

re: #115 Alouette

Now that I think about it, it's a whole lot funnier with Israel and the USSR.

In Soviet Russia joke laugh at you!
;)

re: #124 Obdicut
Ah, OK, I indeed confused a link and a permission. Seems like permission doesn't involve giving out a link. How does it work with non-google accounts?

re: #126 Sergey Romanov

Ah, OK, I indeed confused a link and a permission. Seems like permission doesn't involve giving out a link. How does it work with non-google accounts?

I don't actually know that last part; I've attempted to share with non-gmail accounts but they haven't reported back how it works. Easy to test yourself if you want, of course.

The sharing part talks about giving permission to groups-- maybe you could define a group and then do a batch sharing of those documents to that group? That might be the best solution.

ROFL. The Moonies published an interesting new whine from the Cain camp about the sexual harassment scandal. It's all Rahm Emanuel's fault:

Source - Rahm Emanuel involved in Cain sexual harassment accuser attacks

Herman Cain's campaign is revealing suspicions about who is behind the story regarding the former unidentified employees who accused Mr. Cain of sexual harassment in the late 1990's.

According to a source who is friends with the Cain campaign, not only is the Rick Perry campaign involved but also the Mayor of Chicago and former Obama White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel is likely involved with the sexual harassment accuser attacks. A friend of the Cain campaign believes a National Restaurant Association (NRA) employee out of the Chicago office leaked the story to the Perry campaign via information and influence from Mayor Rahm Emanuel's office.

So Rick Perry and Rahm Emanuel are working together to bring down Herman Cain, according to the Cain camp. Who knew?

re: #128 Lidane

And why? I mean, maybe if Rahm thought that this scandal would help Cain get the nomination, since he'd be Obama's dream opponent.

re: #127 Obdicut

OK, I'll dig around more. Dropbox seems like a bother BTW (don't want to install programs; or is it available as an online-only application?).

re: #130 Sergey Romanov

OK, I'll dig around more. Dropbox seems like a bother BTW (don't want to install programs; or is it available as an online-only application?).

You need to install it. I use it professionally so that part isn't an issue for me, but I understand not wanting to require everyone you're sharing with to add yet another program.

re: #130 Sergey Romanov

And by group, I meant a google group, not just a group.

Wee, language is fun.

re: #129 Obdicut

And why? I mean, maybe if Rahm thought that this scandal would help Cain get the nomination, since he'd be Obama's dream opponent.

But...but... Rick Perry! Rahm Emanuel! It's proof the left is plotting with the RINOs in the party to influence the election!

Why do you hate America?

///

re: #128 Lidane

ROFL. The Moonies published an interesting new whine from the Cain camp about the sexual harassment scandal. It's all Rahm Emanuel's fault:

Source - Rahm Emanuel involved in Cain sexual harassment accuser attacks

So Rick Perry and Rahm Emanuel are working together to bring down Herman Cain, according to the Cain camp. Who knew?

The enemy of my enemy, something something, right. Print it.

re: #132 Obdicut

And by group, I meant a google group, not just a group.

Wee, language is fun.

"Inflammable means flammable? What a country!"

If you want to terminally OD on election wonkishness, check Nate Silver's 2012 Tracker:

[Link: fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com...]

re: #135 Varek Raith

"Inflammable means flammable? What a country!"

I'm trying to push a new definition of those words, where inflammable means 'capable of self-igniting without a heat source' and flammable means 'can be ignited only by a heat source'.

It's not going very well.

re: #134 thedopefishlives

The enemy of my enemy, something something, right. Print it.

Hilariously, the fever swamp reacts as you'd expect:

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

O'Reilly: "Intelligent Design Does Not Contradict Science"

You can't explain that!

re: #138 Lidane

Hilariously, the fever swamp reacts as you'd expect:

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

There's always something new for the vast unhinged, isn't there.

re: #139 Varek Raith

O'Reilly: "Intelligent Design Does Not Contradict Science"

You can't explain that!

Dear Bill,

Yes, it does. It really, really does. Intelligent Design and science are not compatible. At all. Get Bill Nye to explain it to you again.

No love,
Me

re: #137 Obdicut

I'm trying to push a new definition of those words, where inflammable means 'capable of self-igniting without a heat source' and flammable means 'can be ignited only by a heat source'.

It's not going very well.

You're going to slam into the difference between flammable and combustible using NFPA definitions.

LOL.
Image: epic-win-photos-wi-fi-win.jpg

re: #141 Lidane

Dear Bill,

Yes, it does. It really, really does. Intelligent Design and science are not compatible. At all. Get Bill Nye to explain it to you again.

No love,
Me

Image: nye_large.jpg

re: #139 Varek Raith

O'Reilly: "Intelligent Design Does Not Contradict Science"

You can't explain that!

I think I can. (Without watching:) he probably uses the moving definition. Probably means bare "god or aliens" by that. The problem is that "ID" as relevant to the actual discussion necessarily contains an anti-evolution element - "we don't know how it could have evolved, therefore it couldn't have evolved so it must have been designed", an old argument from ignorance. That sure does contradict science.

re: #145 Sergey Romanov

I think I can. (Without watching:) he probably uses the moving definition. Probably means bare "god or aliens" by that. The problem is that "ID" as relevant to the actual discussion necessarily contains an anti-evolution element - "we don't know how it could have evolved, therefore it couldn't have evolved so it must have been designed", an old argument from ignorance. That sure does contradict science.

Yes, but, how'd the moon get there?!?!

re: #146 Varek Raith

Yes, but, how'd the moon get there?!?!

Very Carefully^tm.

re: #146 Varek Raith

Yes, but, how'd the moon get there?!?!

It was attracted by Tides.

(Cue Beck about Soros...)

re: #148 Sergey Romanov

It was attracted by Tides.

(Cue Beck about Soros...)

If it wasn't for ketchup...

re: #128 Lidane

And Perry's blaming Mitt.

Someone blames Rove.

And everyone blames Teh Juice.

re: #150 lawhawk

And Perry's blaming Mitt.

Someone blames Rove.

And everyone blames Teh Juice.

I blame Gus.
/

Iossarian, I see you're here. I (mostly) solved the problem with the file, but if you have any ready software utility in mind, please tell.

re: #151 Varek Raith

I blame Gus.
/

I thought OWS was to blame for everything in this time period.
/

A little more on the asshole child-beating judge:

[Link: www.kztv10.com...]

Including an interview with the judge minimizing it and the daughter and mother going into more detail as well.

I'm cold. My hands are cold. My head feels cold. My mouse and computer feel cold. Another fucking weird situation.

re: #153 oaktree

I thought OWS was to blame for everything in this time period.
/

Yeah. OWS caused the housing bubble and the collapse of the economy. Common knowledge.

re: #155 Gus 802

I'm cold. My hands are cold. My head feels cold. My mouse and computer feel cold. Another fucking weird situation.

It was about 24 degrees this morning on my way into work. Loved it. It's supposed to warm up this weekend, it's almost depressing. IT'S WINTER TIME, DAMMIT.

re: #155 Gus 802

I'm cold. My hands are cold. My head feels cold. My mouse and computer feel cold. Another fucking weird situation.

Have you recently been anywhere near improperly sealed kegs with "Property of the Army. Call xxx-xxxxx" on them?/

re: #156 Gus 802

Yeah. OWS caused the housing bubble and the collapse of the economy. Common knowledge.

I thought it was GWB. I am so confused.

re: #157 thedopefishlives

It was about 24 degrees this morning on my way into work. Loved it. It's supposed to warm up this weekend, it's almost depressing. IT'S WINTER TIME, DAMMIT.

Yeah. Winter time and I'm sitting here with no heat on my side of an already cold house. Yep. I love it.

re: #150 lawhawk

re: #151 Varek Raith

re: #153 oaktree

re: #159 NJDhockeyfan

Folks, you're all missing the mark.

President Obama. That is all.

re: #159 NJDhockeyfan

I thought it was GWB. I am so confused.

They all suck. So what's on Obama's agenda for today? Another speech?

re: #159 NJDhockeyfan

I thought it was GWB. I am so confused.

Greed, poor oversight, deregulation and more greed.

re: #163 Varek Raith

Greed, poor oversight, deregulation and more greed.

Oh, and fraud.

re: #160 Gus 802

Yeah. Winter time and I'm sitting here with no heat on my side of an already cold house. Yep. I love it.

Okay, that sucks. I like the cold, but a cold house? Nope, not happening. I'll run the furnace on my generator if necessary.

re: #160 Gus 802

Yeah. Winter time and I'm sitting here with no heat on my side of an already cold house. Yep. I love it.

NEED MOAR KITTEHS!

re: #165 thedopefishlives

Okay, that sucks. I like the cold, but a cold house? Nope, not happening. I'll run the furnace on my generator if necessary.

It sucks. It's worse than 100 degree Summer crap. You can't move. You can't sleep. I slept like shit. I have to re-group fast and get the fucking hell out of here. Like soon.

re: #166 oaktree

NEED MOAR KITTEHS!

Hand kittens? Only problem is... Oh nevermind.

re: #156 Gus 802

Yeah. OWS caused the housing bubble and the collapse of the economy. Common knowledge.

Dirty welfare mother cadillac hippies.

re: #169 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Dirty welfare mother cadillac hippies.

And Daily Kos!!11ty

re: #170 Gus 802

And Daily Kos!!11ty

Huffpo
YOUNG PEOPLE USE CURSE WORDS

re: #170 Gus 802

And Daily Kos!!11ty

Now, DailyKoch is another matter entirely...

Mornin' fellow peasantry...what is it we are powerless to do anything about today?
(I always like to start with a positive)

30 Major Corporations Paid No Income Taxes In The Last Three Years, While Making $160 Billion

WE'RE OVERTAXED!

re: #171 Varek Raith

Huffpo
YOUNG PEOPLE USE CURSE WORDS

And teh commentators at HuffPo!11ty

Huff Po and Daily Kos will lead to the eventual American theocracy! It will be their fault! Just you wait and see!

//

re: #167 Gus 802

It sucks. It's worse than 100 degree Summer crap. You can't move. You can't sleep. I slept like shit. I have to re-group fast and get the fucking hell out of here. Like soon.

I actually find it easier to sleep in an overly cold house than an overly warm one, but I'm very unusual in that regard. Hope things get resolved for you soon. I remember when I used to live in the lakeside cabin I used to rent; the wind went right through that thing, and in the dead of winter the heater would run pretty much constantly and could barely keep up. It was miserable. The only place in the house you could live in was the spare bedroom, which I had converted into my computer room. Everywhere else was just frigid, to the point where I had frost on my bedroom windows in the morning. ON THE INSIDE.

Image: ctjtaxdodge.jpg

Says it all.

re: #170 Gus 802

And Daily Kos!!11ty

Speaking of dKos - check out today's Fiore cartoon...the 0.0.0 plan

re: #129 Obdicut

And why? I mean, maybe if Rahm thought that this scandal would help Cain get the nomination, since he'd be Obama's dream opponent.

Oh but that's wrong. Rahm is obviously afraid of the troo black man in the race. As is every liberal in the whole entire werrelled.

re: #172 Sergey Romanov

Now, DailyKoch is another matter entirely...

Yep. And one is worth billions with vast and wide political influence while the other is probably in the red and just has Markos.

re: #176 thedopefishlives

I actually find it easier to sleep in an overly cold house than an overly warm one, but I'm very unusual in that regard. Hope things get resolved for you soon. I remember when I used to live in the lakeside cabin I used to rent; the wind went right through that thing, and in the dead of winter the heater would run pretty much constantly and could barely keep up. It was miserable. The only place in the house you could live in was the spare bedroom, which I had converted into my computer room. Everywhere else was just frigid, to the point where I had frost on my bedroom windows in the morning. ON THE INSIDE.

Not me. I can't stand that cold face feeling.

re: #170 Gus 802

And Daily Kos!!11ty

Are you prepared for today's inevitable gloat-fest from all two of the OWSDS mavens here? Should be good for a laugh.

re: #182 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Are you prepared for today's inevitable gloat-fest from all two of the OWSDS mavens here? Should be good for a laugh.

re: #182 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Are you prepared for today's inevitable gloat-fest from all two of the OWSDS mavens here? Should be good for a laugh.

Regading what went down in Oakland?

re: #174 Varek Raith

30 Major Corporations Paid No Income Taxes In The Last Three Years, While Making $160 Billion

WE'RE OVERTAXED!

That's misleading. It's not that they paid no taxes...they actually got over 10 billion dollars in tax refunds...from us.

re: #183 Gus 802

re: #182 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Regading what went down in Oakland?

Yes, that.

So when you hear a GOPer bitch about half of America not paying income taxes, just bring up the fact that a lot of major corps don't either.
;)

re: #185 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yes, that.

Yeah. Thought that started happening yesterday. They're a little late. But sure. I can't wait for the wingnut videos and the Drudge and Andrew Breitbart spawned links.

re: #187 Gus 802

Yeah. Thought that started happening yesterday. They're a little late. But sure. I can't wait for the wingnut videos and the Drudge and Andrew Breitbart spawned links.

What happened?

Damn squirrels in the attic. Very strange around here. BRB

re: #189 Gus 802

Damn squirrels in the attic. Very strange around here. BRB

If we don't hear from you in 15 minutes, can we assume the squirrels won?

morning all!

It's blustery in the Very Far Western Parts of Chicagoland this morning.

Kinda kewl.

AND, (this one is obligatory) this morning's dose of kitteh!

How are you?

re: #189 Gus 802

Damn squirrels in the attic. Very strange around here. BRB

A squirrel died in my attic over the summer. Great fun wandering around a 120 degree attic looking for it.
Oy.

re: #189 Gus 802

Damn squirrels in the attic. Very strange around here. BRB

Metaphorical ,, or should I call a mental health pro for you!?!?!

//

re: #189 Gus 802

Damn squirrels in the attic. Very strange around here. BRB

It's probably warmer up there, squirrels aren't stupid.

re: #152 Sergey Romanov

Iossarian, I see you're here. I (mostly) solved the problem with the file, but if you have any ready software utility in mind, please tell.

Hey there. Well, I've basically "solved" the same problem in the past, and so I had a perl script lying around that does what you need (I think):


$fc = 0;
$fn = "myfile";
$writing = 0;

while (<>) {
$line = $_;
if ($line =~ m/^bBd/) {
print "opening file $fn$fcn";
$fc = $fc + 1;
open (OH, "> $fn$fc") or die "can't open file for writing";
$writing = 1;
}
if ($writing) {
print OH $line;
}
}


It reads shell input and spits it out to "myfile1", "myfile2", etc., updating the file number each time it hits a line that begins with "bBd". So you could do something like:

$ cat hugefile | perl script.pl

and it would break up "hugefile" for you. Not sure exactly how input redirection works under a windows shell but presumably there's similar syntax for that.

re: #186 Varek Raith

So when you hear a GOPer bitch about half of America not paying income taxes, just bring up the fact that a lot of major corps don't either.
;)

But that's millions of lowlife citizen non-payers compared to thirty corporations!

re: #192 Varek Raith

A squirrel died in my attic over the summer. Great fun wandering around a 120 degree attic looking for it.
Oy.

I had a knocking sound in my Nissan's engine. I checked and found a squirrel shammy, nicely tanned.

re: #195 iossarian

That's why god gave us cygwin

re: #197 prairiefire

I had a knocking sound in my Nissan's engine. I checked and found a squirrel shammy, nicely tanned.

ewwwww

re: #198 darthstar

That's why god gave us cygwin

Is that a WOW character?

Gazan terrorists continue barrages against Israel. It was a sustained skirmish, and no Israelis were injured in the attack on the Israelis who were fixing the security barrier between Israel and Gaza.

Armed Palestinians on Thursday opened fire on IDF forces that were working on the security fence near Kibbutz Zikim, north of the Gaza Strip.

The force was positioned near the fence when suddenly shots and mortar shells were fired at them from the Gaza Strip. The force responded with fire, hitting several members of the terrorist cell. No injuries reported among the IDF forces, but a military vehicle sustained light damage.

This may have been an attempt to capture an Israeli a la Shalit but were thwarted by a concerted effort by the Israelis to pin down and kill the terror cell attacking them.

re: #200 ggt

Is that a WOW character?

[Link: www.cygwin.com...]

re: #200 ggt

Is that a WOW character?

A shell of one.

re: #193 sattv4u2

Metaphorical ,, or should I call a mental health pro for you!?!?!

//

Literally. Maybe both considering this cold weather.

re: #195 iossarian

Ah, OK. Thanks. VBA is a more comfortable solution for me, it seems. I'm not averse to installing things, but quick&dirty is OK for this particular thing.

re: #201 lawhawk

Gazan terrorists continue barrages against Israel. It was a sustained skirmish, and no Israelis were injured in the attack on the Israelis who were fixing the security barrier between Israel and Gaza.

This may have been an attempt to capture an Israeli a la Shalit but were thwarted by a concerted effort by the Israelis to pin down and kill the terror cell attacking them.

Give them a state!

re: #194 ggt

It's probably warmer up there, squirrels aren't stupid.

Maybe I should join them.

re: #205 Sergey Romanov

OK, not particularly quick, as it took hours, but I was not in a hurry.

Short visit this morning.

Have a great day all!

re: #197 prairiefire

I had a knocking sound in my Nissan's engine. I checked and found a squirrel shammy, nicely tanned.

It just wanted to go for a spin - and things went poorly from there.

There were constant issues like that when I lived in northern NY state. Engine blocks are *warm* after cars have been run so there were repeatedly issues in the neighborhood with wildlife and cats getting mangled because they would crawl up into the engine space from underneath to take advantage of that in periods of cold weather.

re: #207 Gus 802

Maybe I should join them.

Where

in the attic

or in their non-stupidity!?!?!

///

re: #209 ggt

Short visit this morning.

Have a great day all!

re: #206 NJDhockeyfan

Give them a state!

The way I see it one side doesn't want to accept the state of Israel and the other side doesn't want to accept the state of Palestine. Ironic don't you think? Lots of room for optimism don't you think?

re: #197 prairiefire

I had a knocking sound in my Nissan's engine. I checked and found a squirrel shammy, nicely tanned.

Ouch! On my car, I once found what I thought was a twig stuck in one of the hubcaps. Upon closer inspection, it turned out to be the tail of a field mouse. Its foot was sticking out a little further away *_*

re: #201 lawhawk

Not to nitpick, but when engaging in open fire with an adversary, doesn't that elevate one from 'terrorist' to 'militant'? Terrorists usually sneak into places and blow themselves and/or others up in a seemingly random and senseless manner. They don't openly engage much larger forces. I know, I know...I need to look at the context here. Damn terrorists.

Off to the salt mines.
Later gators.

re: #216 Varek Raith

Off to the salt mines.
Later gators.

Supervising I presume, or simply off to practice Force powers on the downtrodden?

re: #188 Varek Raith

What happened?

Lots of black block vandalism. One Whole Foods had some windows broken and graffiti sprayed upon it. But I also heard the other demonstrators surrounded that same Whole Foods to stop these guys. A demonstrator was also hit by a car. Think he's going to be OK. Lots of mayhem in places.

Aw, fuck...the sun just came up...again. Time to go run the boys.

re: #213 Gus 802

The way I see it one side doesn't want to accept the state of Israel and the other side doesn't want to accept the state of Palestine. Ironic don't you think? Lots of room for optimism don't you think?

Not true. Israel has repeatedly shown itself willing to accept a Palestinian state; the Palestinians have repeatedly shown itself unwilling to accept a 2-state solution as per Oslo. It hasn't stopped terror attacks against Israel; it hasn't stopped incitement to violence; and it refuses to make any kind of concession relating to any kind of deal.

Any deal proffered by Israel has been rebuffed without so much as a counter proposal. In other words, the Palestinians want Israel to continue negotiating with itself until the Palestinians wear Israel down and accept Palestinians' terms - which are to eliminate Israel and any notion of a Jewish state on what is currently Israel.

Oh. And they also managed to close down the Port of Oakland.

re: #213 Gus 802

The way I see it one side doesn't want to accept the state of Israel and the other side doesn't want to accept the state of Palestine. Ironic don't you think? Lots of room for optimism don't you think?

The other side has acknowledged its readiness to accept the state of Palestine, but one side does not want to recognize the state of Israel in any way, shape or form, at all, ever.

Sorry but I'm not optimistic.

re: #220 lawhawk

Not true. Israel has repeatedly shown itself willing to accept a Palestinian state; the Palestinians have repeatedly shown itself unwilling to accept a 2-state solution as per Oslo. It hasn't stopped terror attacks against Israel; it hasn't stopped incitement to violence; and it refuses to make any kind of concession relating to any kind of deal.

Any deal proffered by Israel has been rebuffed without so much as a counter proposal. In other words, the Palestinians want Israel to continue negotiating with itself until the Palestinians wear Israel down and accept Palestinians' terms - which are to eliminate Israel and any notion of a Jewish state on what is currently Israel.

OK. Anyway. I have nothing else to say on that topic.

re: #222 Alouette

The other side has acknowledged its readiness to accept the state of Palestine, but one side does not want to recognize the state of Israel in any way, shape or form, at all, ever.

Sorry but I'm not optimistic.

I have nothing else to say on that topic.

re: #213 Gus 802

Strictly speaking, Israel gave quite a lot of chances to PA. Israel was even ready to give up the East Jerusalem as a capital for Palestine. Palestinian leadership refused. Now, I don't know if there were any "catches" in these plans for Palestinians, or if the refusals were pure temper tantrums, but in light of the present situation they sound like actual good solutions.

re: #220 lawhawk

Not true. Israel has repeatedly shown itself willing to accept a Palestinian state; the Palestinians have repeatedly shown itself unwilling to accept a 2-state solution as per Oslo. It hasn't stopped terror attacks against Israel; it hasn't stopped incitement to violence; and it refuses to make any kind of concession relating to any kind of deal.

Any deal proffered by Israel has been rebuffed without so much as a counter proposal. In other words, the Palestinians want Israel to continue negotiating with itself until the Palestinians wear Israel down and accept Palestinians' terms - which are to eliminate Israel and any notion of a Jewish state on what is currently Israel.

Even if Israel agreed to totally withdraw from all territories captured in June 1967 and remove 500,000 Jews from all "settlements" including all the neighborhoods around Jerusalem, the Palestinians continue to insist on a "Right of Return" into what remains of pre-1967 Israel.

re: #215 darthstar

Nitpicking rebuttal:
Hamas was among the groups involved; and they are a designated terror group. Their members are terrorists. Can terrorists also be militants? Presumably.

re: #224 Gus 802

I have nothing else to say on that topic.

So then you shouldn't have brought it up.

re: #228 Alouette

So then you shouldn't have brought it up.

Not here that's for sure. Wrong venue.

re: #229 Gus 802

Just yesterday windsagio and Bob had a lengthy discussion on the topic. Without any fur flying. I think this is a right venue.

re: #230 Sergey Romanov

Just yesterday windsagio and Bob had a lengthy discussion on the topic. Without any fur flying. I think this is a right venue.

I got my own problems.

re: #231 Gus 802

No prob.

Cop lifts subdued protesters head up and pepper sprays him directly in the face.

re: #230 Sergey Romanov

Just yesterday windsagio and Bob had a lengthy discussion on the topic. Without any fur flying. I think this is a right venue.

We're lizards. We don't have fur, we have scales.

re: #234 thedopefishlives

We're lizards. We don't have fur, we have scales.

Well...

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re: #237 Gus 802

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I think I'm struck more by how cyclical that graph appears than by the severity of the current spike. Remarkable.

@TPM Talking Points Memo
AP: Greek bailout referendum has been scrapped [Link: t.co...]

re: #237 Gus 802

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That looks like a hockey stick graph, and we know those are nothing but a liberal government conspiracy.

Someone notify the DOW...

11,954.83
+118.79 (1.00%)

Timeo Danaos et referenda ferentes.

re: #239 Gus 802

@TPM Talking Points Memo
AP: Greek bailout referendum has been scrapped [Link: t.co...]

And the Greeks will riot on the news in 3, 2, 1...

Then again, they were going to riot either way.

At least now the EU and creditors can claim some certainty under the deal that was struck instead of giving the referendum a chance to vote down the deal and throw open the potential for defaults and an even bigger mess.

re: #241 Gus 802

Someone notify the DOW...

11,954.83
+118.79 (1.00%)

Already priced in?

Besides, scrapping the referendum would be a positive for the markets, you would think, since it would guarantee at least some money getting back to the banks who speculated in the Greek economy.

If the Greek people reject the bailout deal, those banks could wind up with nothing.

re: #243 lawhawk

And the Greeks will riot on the news in 3, 2, 1...

Then again, they were going to riot either way.

At least now the EU and creditors can claim some certainty under the deal that was struck instead of giving the referendum a chance to vote down the deal and throw open the potential for defaults and an even bigger mess.

Yep. And the USA will start another war.

re: #233 recusancy

It is true that they're resisting arrest.

Obviously it's a pick for cops to have people with their arms linked, and obviously they're going to have to use force to unlink them to arrest them. The cops will argue that the pepper spray in the face is a kinder way of doing this than physically yanking on their arms, but that's a contention rather than a proof.

Furthermore, if the underlying arrest is improper-- the curfew violation-- then resisting it is legal.

I'm cold. Talking to myself here and I feel like breaking something. Maybe I should drive to Oakland.

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Wait for it! It's starting to swing down...

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re: #247 Gus 802

I'm cold. Talking to myself here and I feel like breaking something. Maybe I should drive to Oakland.

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Well, what exactly is one supposed to say in response to

Yep. And the USA will start another war.

Wait! Going back up.

re: #249 thedopefishlives

Well, what exactly is one supposed to say in response to

Try not to think about it too much. I have no influence on policy. I'm just some guy in Denver who could die tomorrow and poof! All gone.

Uh oh!

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RT @ChadPergram: House panel votes 14-9 to subpoena White House on Solyndra.

re: #247 Gus 802

I'm cold. Talking to myself here and I feel like breaking something. Maybe I should drive to Oakland.

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