Fox Celebrates Christmas: Obama is a ‘Skinny Ghetto Crackhead’

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The racist commentary has become almost unbelievably overt at Fox News. Today’s example is from the Sean Hannity show with Mark Steyn hosting, as Media Research Center chief Brent Bozell says President Obama looks like a “skinny ghetto crackhead.”

Mark Steyn’s reaction to this blatantly bigoted remark: a chuckle.

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207 comments
1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:10:57am

ID10T!

2 thatthatisis  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:11:15am

"Have you no shame, Senator? At long last, have you no shame?"

3 makeitstop  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:11:57am

Remember the good old days, when criticizing the president got you labeled un-American?

Nowadays, disrespecting the president gets you on TV.

Bozell should be ashamed of himself, but he's far too stupid for that.

4 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:13:14am

Is he a skinny ghetto crackhead or uppity? Please decide.

5 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:13:48am

re: #4 EmmmieG

Is he a skinny ghetto crackhead or uppity? Please decide.

Can't one be an uppity, but skinny, ghetto crackhead?

6 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:15:07am

re: #5 SanFranciscoZionist

Can't one be an uppity, but skinny, ghetto crackhead?

No, no I'm pretty sure you have to be one or the other.

Skinny ghetto crackheads do NOT eat arugula.

I don't either, but I've never so much as seen crack, so I suppose I have no category to fit myself into.

7 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:16:03am

re: #6 EmmmieG

No, no I'm pretty sure you have to be one or the other.

Skinny ghetto crackheads do NOT eat arugula.

I don't either, but I've never so much as seen crack, so I suppose I have no category to fit myself into.

I suspect that there's a fairly large chunk of American society that consumes neither crack nor arugula.

8 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:16:57am

Meh, this one's a wash. He hedges his bets by saying "imagine the outrage if I said....". The Chris Mathews quote they're discussing is pretty bad but not quite as classless.

9 Ming  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:17:39am

I canceled my cable TV service a couple of years ago, and I really don't have a need for it these days. Of course, Fox is bundled with a bunch of other TV channels, but do you really need any of those? It's time people started to vote with their wallets on this.

10 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:17:54am

re: #4 EmmmieG

Is he a skinny ghetto crackhead or uppity? Please decide.

He's uppity because he doesn't publicly admit to being a skinny ghetto crackhead, and conform to the socially-mandated, non-arugula-eating, behavior patterns of a skinny ghetto crackhead. In fact, he dares to present himself as a civil, educated family man.

///(just in case it wasn't already obvious)

11 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:18:19am

re: #9 Ming

I canceled my cable TV service a couple of years ago, and I really don't have a need for it these days. Of course, Fox is bundled with a bunch of other TV channels, but do you really need any of those? It's time people started to vote with their wallets on this.

I did the same. I don't miss TV at all.

12 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:18:58am

re: #7 SanFranciscoZionist

I suspect that there's a fairly large chunk of American society that consumes neither crack nor arugula.

I myself am an occasional recreational arugula user.

13 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:19:56am

re: #7 SanFranciscoZionist

I suspect that there's a fairly large chunk of American society that consumes neither crack nor arugula.

We are the...95%...you think?

You can have our romaine when you prise it from our cold, dead fingers.

14 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:20:05am

re: #8 Killgore Trout

Meh, this one's a wash. He hedges his bets by saying "imagine the outrage if I said...". The Chris Mathews quote they're discussing is pretty bad but not quite as classless.

No, actually he did make these words his own. Here's the quote:

BOZELL: How long do you think Sean Hannity's show would last if four times in one sentence, he made a comment about, say, the President of the United States, and said that he looked like a skinny, ghetto crackhead? Which, by the way, you might want to say that Barack Obama does. Everybody on the left would come forward and demand he be fired within five minutes for being so insulting towards a leader of the United States.

Watch the video. He co-signs on this one.

15 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:21:18am

re: #14 Charles

No, actually he did make these words his own. Here's the quote:

Watch the video. He co-signs on this one.

Yeah, I caught that.

16 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:22:40am

re: #12 SanFranciscoZionist

I myself am an occasional recreational arugula user.

That's a gateway to a hard-core radicchio habit. Next thing you know, you're shambling through the farmer's market begging for a few leaves of escarole.

17 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:23:35am

My husband grew up on iceberg lettuce with mayonnaise dressing as a "salad."

He hated it, growing up.

I introduced him to such finery as croutons, romaine lettuce, and dressings with spices in them. Oh, and bacon bits.

Now he eats a salad about five times a week.

I suppose he is growing uppity.

18 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:24:52am

re: #16 The Ghost of a Flea

That's a gateway to a hard-core radicchio habit. Next thing you know, you're shambling through the farmer's market begging for a few leaves of escarole.

It's a gateway to a root vegetable habit. Good luck finding celeriac out of season.

19 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:25:00am

The stupidity here is amazing. He says "imagine how long the Sean Hannity show would last" if someone made a blatantly racist remark -- then makes exactly that blatantly racist remark.

20 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:25:11am

re: #16 The Ghost of a Flea

That's a gateway to a hard-core radicchio habit. Next thing you know, you're shambling through the farmer's market begging for a few leaves of escarole.

I just bought a head of butter lettuce, grown hydroponically, with the roots still attached for freshness.

Trying to decide if I can taste a difference.

21 Atlas Fails  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:26:35am

Bozell comes off as creepy in person and is an objectively horrible writer (seriously, check out some of his columns. He sucks at putting words together.) He'd be a nobody if he wasn't William Buckley's nephew.

22 chunkymonkey  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:27:16am

re: #9 Ming

I canceled my cable TV service a couple of years ago, and I really don't have a need for it these days. Of course, Fox is bundled with a bunch of other TV channels, but do you really need any of those? It's time people started to vote with their wallets on this.

Where are we supposed to get NHL games without cable? I don't have cable either, so I only get to watch the games at my in-laws in Canada.

23 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:28:01am

re: #20 EmmmieG

I just bought a head of butter lettuce, grown hydroponically, with the roots still attached for freshness.

Trying to decide if I can taste a difference.

The great thing about that stuff is that it stays fresh for up to three weeks, if you take care of it. It's still alive! Unwind the roots and give it a little water.

24 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:28:22am

re: #23 wrenchwench

The great thing about that stuff is that it stays fresh for up to three weeks, if you take care of it. It's still alive! Unwind the roots and give it a little water.

Um. I have digested most of it already, but thanks for the suggestion.

25 makeitstop  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:28:36am

re: #19 Charles

The stupidity here is amazing. He says "imagine how long the Sean Hannity show would last" if someone made a blatantly racist remark -- then makes exactly that blatantly racist remark.

Not to mention that Hannity's bread and butter is just that kind of inflammatory statement.

The answer to the hypothetical question of 'what would happen to Hannity's show?' is Fox News would run it for years.

26 HappyWarrior  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:37:24am

But but the liberals are the real racists not the patriots on Fox News. Fuck them.

27 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:39:42am

Twitter accounts for Bozell and Steyn:

@BrentBozell

@MarkSteynOnline

Let 'em know how you feel.

28 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:39:55am

Wow, dumb conservative white bigots at Fox, who would'a thought.

29 Ming  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:46:49am

re: #22 chunkymonkey

Where are we supposed to get NHL games without cable? I don't have cable either, so I only get to watch the games at my in-laws in Canada.

This is a rhetorical stretch, but I can honestly say that I feel the same way about not paying for Fox News (and, for that matter, those execreable "pundits" on CNN and MSNBC) as I do about not eating "land animals" (I'm a longtime pesca-vegetarian). It's nice to look at a dog or a cat, or a chicken or cow for that matter, and know that I don't participate in the hellacious "meat industry". And my feeling about not paying for cable is not that different from my feeling about not eating meat: I can read this LGF post, about racism on Fox, and experience some MEANING in the fact that I don't help to support that.

In today's Information Age, I have a feeling you'll be able to find alternatives to ESPN... and meanwhile, enjoy your visits to your in-laws anyway.

30 Obdicut  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:49:30am

I lived in what a lot of people would call 'the ghetto', the Tenderloin of San Francisco. I had a lot of crackheads on my block.

None of them really bore a resemblance to President Obama.

For example: Image: sheen_webcam1.jpg

That's a crackhead.

This is President Obama:

Image: president-obama2012.jpg

31 Digital Display  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:56:06am

re: #30 Obdicut

I lived in what a lot of people would call 'the ghetto', the Tenderloin of San Francisco. I had a lot of crackheads on my block.

None of them really bore a resemblance to President Obama.

For example: Image: sheen_webcam1.jpg

That's a crackhead.

This is President Obama:

Image: president-obama2012.jpg

mmmm... I had a 53 Nash Ambassador stolen from me in the Tenderloin.. Still had the plastic on the seats.. It made me ill.. The Cop writing out the report told me I'd probably never see it again..He was right..

32 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:57:49am

re: #3 makeitstop

Remember the good old days, when criticizing the president got you labeled un-American?

Nowadays, disrespecting the president gets you on TV.

Bozell should be ashamed of himself, but he's far too stupid for that.

Brent Bozell, you're an insufferable asshole...go play footsies with Ron Paul or something.

33 Kragar  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:57:59am

WTF is this horseshit?

34 wilburs  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:00:38pm

Brent Bozell is near the top of the very short list of "people I would love to punch in the face"

A useless wingnut welfare recipient who makes a living from the outrage machine that appeals to the worst qualities in people.

35 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:02:47pm

re: #30 Obdicut

I lived in what a lot of people would call 'the ghetto', the Tenderloin of San Francisco. I had a lot of crackheads on my block.

None of them really bore a resemblance to President Obama.

For example: Image: sheen_webcam1.jpg

That's a crackhead.

This is President Obama:

Image: president-obama2012.jpg

Um, yeah they do. We all look alike to them. Doesn't matter how you dress, talk, education level, what you drive, what you do for a living.

No sarc tags, because it's true...that is the entire point of saying he looks like one.

36 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:05:05pm

And now we have the usual wingnut dead thread hero apologizing for racism in the previous thread.

37 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:05:44pm

re: #35 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Um, yeah they do. We all look alike to them. Doesn't matter how you dress, talk, education level, what you drive, what you do for a living.

No sarc tags, because it's true...that is the entire point of saying he looks like one.

Y'all look like Charlie Sheen?

/

38 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:05:44pm

re: #34 wilburs

His dad was McCarthy's guy. Like father, like son in this case.

39 Obdicut  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:20:50pm

re: #35 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

That was pretty much my point, yes.

40 Obdicut  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:31:21pm

It's like the concept of a white crackhead doesn't even exist to these people.

Here's another crackhead:

Image: Tatum-O%E2%80%99Neal.jpg

Skinny, too. Still not seeing the resemblance to Obama.

41 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:35:33pm

re: #40 Obdicut

It's like the concept of a white crackhead doesn't even exist to these people.

Here's another crackhead:

Image: Tatum-O%E2%80%99Neal.jpg

Skinny, too. Still not seeing the resemblance to Obama.

That's true. He doesn't pluck his eyebrows nearly that much.

42 chunkymonkey  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:38:28pm

re: #36 Charles

And now we have the usual wingnut dead thread hero apologizing for racism in the previous thread.

Wingnut hero? Seriously?

43 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:38:47pm

re: #40 Obdicut

It's like the concept of a white crackhead doesn't even exist to these people.

Here's another crackhead:

Image: Tatum-O%E2%80%99Neal.jpg

Skinny, too. Still not seeing the resemblance to Obama.

Crack addiction comes in all shapes and sizes.

Fawn Hall.

44 Jaerik  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:39:06pm

"How long do you think Sean Hannity's show would last if four times in one sentence, he made a comment about, say, the President of the United States, and said that he looked like a skinny, ghetto crackhead?" Bozell wondered.

Huh. That's a decent point. Matthew's comments were equally out of line, and an appeal to rational discourse instead of ad hominem crazytalk is appreciated.

"Which, by the way, you might want to say that Barack Obama does."

*facepalm*

Here's the problem. You don't get to just tack on that cutesy little dig as a red-meat throw to the actual biggoted asshats in your audience, and have your overall point remain intact. Your entire argument has been reduced to the level of the lowest statement you make.

You're done. Get off the air.

45 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:39:38pm

re: #42 chunkymonkey

Wingnut hero? Seriously?

No, dead thread hero, who is also a wingnut.

46 Atlas Fails  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:40:18pm

re: #36 Charles

And now we have the usual wingnut dead thread hero apologizing for racism in the previous thread.

KT? He may be to the right of many on this site, myself included, but I wouldn't call him a wingnut hero. Especially after the HotAir fiasco.

EDIT: Oops, I am an idiot.

47 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:41:43pm

re: #46 Atlas Fails

Not KT. chunkymonkey I think

48 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:42:23pm

A belated good afternoon to the Lizard World from the Great White North of western New York. Got about an inch of snow overnight and things are suddenly pretty (and slippery).

Shopping is all done and supplies laid in for a weekend of cooking and consumption of food and drink. During a preparation lull I sit here tending a fire in the woodstove and running a load of laundry.

How are things elsewhere in Lizard-dom?

Per the current topic, does behavior like this by the talking heads on Fox actually surprise anyone any more?

49 Atlas Fails  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:42:26pm

re: #47 Rightwingconspirator

Not KT. chunkymonkey I think

Yeah, I caught that and edited my original post.

50 ArchangelMichael  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:42:43pm

re: #45 wrenchwench

No, dead thread hero, who is also a wingnut.

Sort of like when Beavis and Butthead were discussing the ins and outs of "Juice-heads" and the like while making fun of Jersey Shore.

"You can be a wingnut, but not necessarily a dead thread hero, but all dead thread heroes are wingnuts.... or some... shit."

51 chunkymonkey  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:43:41pm

re: #36 Charles

And now we have the usual wingnut dead thread hero apologizing for racism in the previous thread.

OK, I wasn't sure before, but now I'm sure that you're referring to me. How was that a dead thread? I came in at post 85.

And seriously, "apologizing for racism"?!? Don't dare impugn me honor! I did nothing of the sort. You'd better back up that claim if you're going to make it.

52 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:44:10pm

re: #49 Atlas Fails

Heh. That makes mine a ghost post. :-)>

53 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:45:13pm

OT... Oh brother...

@DanielEllsberg Daniel Ellsberg
Obama gave #BradleyManning verdict first, trial later. [Link: ow.ly...]

54 Jaerik  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:45:24pm

Edit: We weren't talking about KT. Disregard!

55 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:50:31pm

re: #48 oaktree

A belated good afternoon to the Lizard World from the Great White North of western New York. Got about an inch of snow overnight and things are suddenly pretty (and slippery).

Shopping is all done and supplies laid in for a weekend of cooking and consumption of food and drink. During a preparation lull I sit here tending a fire in the woodstove and running a load of laundry.

How are things elsewhere in Lizard-dom?

Per the current topic, does behavior like this by the talking heads on Fox actually surprise anyone any more?

Not really, but I think it's important that we keep saying it's appalling, and not acceptable.

This is not OK public discourse.

56 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:52:55pm

Folks, I am outta here, jet-lagged to a smoldering ash of an austin_blue, but I've got to tell you, in all my years, I haven't seen this level of raw but veiled racism since the Nixon years.

57 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:52:55pm

re: #48 oaktree

Frankly? Racism surprises the hell out of me every time I see it. I mean, the calendar saying what year it is and all that.

58 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:54:48pm

Can't say I'm surprised Steyn chuckled. I've been following him for years, ever since he was a columnist for The Toronto Sun, which is our version of The New York Post.

He's always been a chucklehead.

59 darthstar  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:58:13pm

That's "Mr. Skinny Ghetto Crackhead President" to you, asshole. Hannity and his friends aren't worthy of the peanuts in Obama's shit.

60 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:00:03pm

re: #59 darthstar

ew

61 wilburs  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:00:49pm

re: #58 Romantic Heretic

Can't say I'm surprised Steyn chuckled. I've been following him for years, ever since he was a columnist for The Toronto Sun, which is our version of The New York Post.

He's always been a chucklehead.

really

why doesn't he follow his own "immigration policy" and go back to his own country.

asshole

62 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:03:20pm

re: #61 wilburs

really

why doesn't he follow his own "immigration policy" and go back to his own country.

asshole

Because like many 'conservative' Canadians his dream is to be an American. He thinks Canada is a Communist dictatorship. He said so often in his columns for the Sun.

He's not going to leave the land of the free and home of the brave.

He was a wingnut long before it was cool.

63 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:03:48pm

re: #61 wilburs

really

why doesn't he follow his own "immigration policy" and go back to his own country.

asshole

Um. Are you mad? He's white!

///

64 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:05:23pm
65 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:05:34pm

re: #59 darthstar

That's "Mr. Skinny Ghetto Crackhead President" to you, asshole. Hannity and his friends aren't worthy of the peanuts in Obama's shit.

Looks like Bozell and Steyn have each put on a few pounds in recent years. The "skinny" part is probably a big part of why they're peeved. Kinda like Senselessbrenner.

66 wilburs  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:06:03pm

I was hoping some one would say that he is here because Canadians have too much sense to pay attention to his kind of idiocy.

67 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:09:32pm

re: #66 wilburs

I was hoping some one would say that he is here because Canadians have too much sense to pay attention to his kind of idiocy.

Well... to be fair... they live in Canada.

It's America's Hat!

68 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:17:07pm

What a stupid asshole. All he had to say was simply "... now imagine if Sean Hannity had said the same thing about Obama". But NOOOO, he had shoot for a stupid racial stereotype.

And really, Matthews is an unprofessional dumb ass for saying what he said. But you can't expect to highlight someone's stupidity by being stupid yourself.

69 Obdicut  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:17:44pm

re: #67 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Or are we theirs?

Image: diversophy-large.jpg

Forgive me if I just blew your mind.

70 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:17:50pm

I'm in a rural McDonalds on Friday night. The redneck teens are starting to show up. Camouflage and shit kickers.

Just sitting around. None of them are buying anything. Just hanging out.

I'd throw their asses out if it was my restaurant.

I'm loitering too, but at least I bought apple pies and coffee.

71 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:18:38pm

re: #64 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Jordan's been retired for a while. But folks still gotta have his shoes.

Eventually people are going to pepper spray each other to get at the pepper spray supply.

72 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:18:40pm

re: #69 Obdicut

Ouch. Mah brain hurts!

73 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:19:24pm

re: #69 Obdicut

Or are we theirs?

Image: diversophy-large.jpg

Forgive me if I just blew your mind.

Looks like a hat and a little tushie cover.

74 Obdicut  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:19:30pm

re: #72 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ouch. Mah brain hurts!

Because of Alaska, we're also their codpiece.

75 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:21:26pm

re: #74 Obdicut

Because of Alaska, we're also their codpiece.

I guess we just assume that the aliens will show up with their spacecraft aligned with our North/South orientation.

76 darthstar  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:22:04pm

This is good...I'm done with my travels for the day and can now catch up on old episodes of Burn Notice at my sister's via On Demand.

It's starting to feel like a vacation day after all.

77 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:22:13pm

re: #69 Obdicut

That's the way all our maps would have likely looked had Genghis Khan's empire not crumbled so quickly.

At an old office job I had CA, we used to coordinate with an office in NY. A couple of them thought it was clever to refer to my area as the "Left Coast", and theirs as the "Right Coast".

I corrected them by saying, anatomically speaking CA is on the right coast, while NY is on the left. For some reason they did not find that humorous.

78 Atlas Fails  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:22:19pm

re: #65 wrenchwench

Looks like Bozell and Steyn have each put on a few pounds in recent years. The "skinny" part is probably a big part of why they're peeved. Kinda like Senselessbrenner.

Yeah, Michelle Obama is a hypocrite because she's fat (???) and Barack's gay or a crackhead or something because he's thin.

/wingnut logic

79 chunkymonkey  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:24:13pm

re: #78 Atlas Fails

Yeah, Michelle Obama is a hypocrite because she's fat (???) and Barack's gay or a crackhead or something because he's thin.

/wingnut logic

He's not gay, he's a hipster doofus.

80 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:25:04pm

re: #79 chunkymonkey

You clearly do not understand the term "hipster".

81 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:25:43pm

Rogozin as a vice-premier (if anybody pays attention to Russian news) is a very bad news. Basically, Joerg Haider. And a very savvy one, at that. His 2007 clip below caused his party to be prohibited from participation in Moscow Duma elections that year. That was then. Now some even say he may become Putin's successor years from now.

("Let's cleanse Moscow from trash!")

82 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:27:57pm

re: #78 Atlas Fails

Yeah, Michelle Obama is a hypocrite because she's fat (???) and Barack's gay or a crackhead or something because he's thin.

/wingnut logic

JJ & Florida Evans?

Idiots.

83 chunkymonkey  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:30:15pm

re: #80 Slumbering Behemoth

You clearly do not understand the term "hipster".

For. The. Love. Of... you people have no sense of humor. The great Christopher Hitchens is rolling in his grave.

84 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:31:31pm

re: #83 chunkymonkey

Chunkymonkey is a hipster doofus.

Nope. Still not funny.

85 Atlas Fails  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:32:32pm

LOL, TOP 10 "GAY" ABUSES OF 2011!!!

Prancing drill sergeants!!!1

86 Obdicut  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:33:19pm

re: #84 Slumbering Behemoth

Hipster doofus is a pleonasm anyway.

87 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:33:26pm

re: #83 chunkymonkey

Wasn't a fan. He seemed to revel in his lack of civility.

88 Obdicut  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:33:37pm

re: #85 Atlas Fails

Boy they're fascinated by gay people over at WND.

89 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:33:44pm

re: #86 Obdicut

A wut?

90 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:34:13pm

re: #89 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A wut?

You're not a hipster doofus, you won't get it!

//

91 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:34:38pm

re: #85 Atlas Fails

"And the No. 1 abuse of homosexual activism in the United States in 2011, was the implementation of the repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," allowing open homosexual behavior in our military. No one can yet know how damaging the repeal of the ban on sodomy will be – we can only guess – but there's no question that it will damage the character of our armed forces and undermine their effectiveness."

Stupidity like that should be painful to the offender.

92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:34:52pm

re: #86 Obdicut

Off to Dictionary.com...

93 Achilles Tang  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:35:08pm

re: #83 chunkymonkey

For. The. Love. Of... you people have no sense of humor. The great Christopher Hitchens is rolling in his grave.

You would do well to not assume that your logic or deductions have anything in common with those of Christopher Hitchens.

94 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:35:51pm

re: #90 Sergey Romanov

You're not a hipster doofus, you won't get it!

//

I got it before it was cool to get it.

95 Atlas Fails  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:36:11pm

re: #88 Obdicut

Boy they're fascinated by gay people over at WND.

Yep. It's the duty of every Bible-believin' Xtian to keep a watchful eye on the Sodomite perverts and all the disgusting things they do with their sweaty bodies to me...I mean each other. Because, you know, America needs to know how disgusting they are.

96 Obdicut  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:36:24pm

re: #89 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A wut?

A pleonasm is like a tautology without the two terms being congruent.

So, saying someone is an "educated guy with a PhD", that's a pleonasm, since anyone with a PhD is educated. But it's not a tautology, since they don't mean the same thing. Saying someone was a jarhead Marine would be a tautology, since the two terms mean the same thing.

97 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:37:46pm

re: #96 Obdicut

You coulda said redundant.

ELITIST!

98 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:38:28pm

re: #91 Slumbering Behemoth

Stupidity like that should be painful to the offender.

Although it occurs to me that it might not be stupidity at play there, but deliberate dishonesty. Fear mongering, even.

99 darthstar  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:38:50pm

re: #88 Obdicut

Boy they're fascinated by gay people over at WND.

Only because Obama has such a nice firm ass...it's distracting for them.

100 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:39:17pm

re: #95 Atlas Fails

Yep. It's the duty of every Bible-believin' Xtians to keep a watchful eye on the Sodomite perverts and all the disgusting things they do with their sweaty bodies to me...I mean each other. Because, you know, America needs to know how disgusting they are.

"Repeal of "Don't Ask Don't Tell" Paves Way For Gay Sex Right on Battlefield, Opponents Fantasize".

101 Achilles Tang  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:39:45pm

re: #96 Obdicut

A pleonasm is like a tautology without the two terms being congruent.

So, saying someone is an "educated guy with a PhD", that's a pleonasm, since anyone with a PhD is educated. But it's not a tautology, since they don't mean the same thing. Saying someone was a jarhead Marine would be a tautology, since the two terms mean the same thing.

you didn't explain congruent.

102 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:40:51pm

re: #99 darthstar

Only because Obama has such a nice firm ass...it's distracting for them.

No ones ass is firmer than mine.

103 Obdicut  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:42:24pm

re: #101 Naso Tang

you didn't explain congruent.

I relied on context to communicate that; being prolix when talking about pleonasms is bromidic.

105 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:45:03pm

re: #104 Gus 802

Etta James hospitalized; care decisions remain in husband's hands

Why is the article emphasizing that? Isn't that usual?

106 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:47:05pm

re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist

Why is the article emphasizing that? Isn't that usual?

Probably because of this:

A judge ruled Monday that James' husband since 1969, Artis Mills, would keep decision-making control over her finances and her healthcare, but released only $350,000 for the singer's medical costs from her $1-million estate instead of the half-million Mills had requested. According to Mills, James' at-home care runs about $30,000 a month. Donto James, Sametto's brother, had requested a temporary conservatorship because of concerns over those expenses and his mother's care.

107 blueraven  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:49:25pm

re: #83 chunkymonkey

For. The. Love. Of... you people have no sense of humor. The great Christopher Hitchens is rolling in his grave.

Here's something funny...Your karma is -999

108 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:49:26pm

re: #106 Gus 802

Gosh, she's only got a million dollars? Holy cow!

Everyone who's "gotten busy" to "At Last" should send some money.

109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:49:49pm

re: #107 blueraven

Here's something funny...Your karma is -999

Quick! Turn it over!

110 darthstar  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:51:22pm

re: #107 blueraven

Here's something funny...Your karma is -999

The Herman Cain of karma.

111 blueraven  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:51:37pm

re: #109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Quick! Turn it over!

-999 and counting!

112 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:52:24pm

re: #51 chunkymonkey

OK, I wasn't sure before, but now I'm sure that you're referring to me. How was that a dead thread? I came in at post 85.

And seriously, "apologizing for racism"?!? Don't dare impugn me honor! I did nothing of the sort. You'd better back up that claim if you're going to make it.

This:

My point is that to Charles, and apparently you, are keen to over apply the term racist. It's a fault because it waters down the meaning and effect when the claim is made. When everything is racist, nothing is.

Of course, that doesn't count because you hadn't typed it yet when he called you that....

113 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:55:45pm

re: #111 blueraven

(that's why I said "quick")

Getting into discussions of race is dicey, at best.

114 Varek Raith  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:57:55pm

re: #83 chunkymonkey

For. The. Love. Of... you people have no sense of humor. The great Christopher Hitchens is rolling in his grave.

Hitchens would laugh at you.

115 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:58:00pm

re: #107 blueraven

Here's something funny...Your karma is -999

Quick! Buy him a pizza!

116 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:01:02pm

TNR Exclusive: A Collection of Ron Paul’s Most Incendiary Newsletters

For years, Ron Paul published a series of newsletters that dispensed political news and investment advice, but also routinely indulged in bigotry. Here's a selection of some especially inflammatory passages, with links to scanned images of the original documents in which they appeared.

...

They've got quit a collection.

117 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:02:35pm

re: #116 NJDhockeyfan

TNR Exclusive: A Collection of Ron Paul’s Most Incendiary Newsletters

They've got quit a collection.

Indid they do.

118 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:02:42pm

re: #116 NJDhockeyfan

TNR Exclusive: A Collection of Ron Paul’s Most Incendiary Newsletters

They've got quit a collection.

There's an awful lot of this stuff, isn't there?

119 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:04:08pm

re: #118 SanFranciscoZionist

There's an awful lot of this stuff, isn't there?

Chunky, I know you do not actually want to read the newsletters, but this passes my test for "Yo, Is This Shit Racist":

An October 1990 edition of the Political Report ridicules black activists, led by Al Sharpton, for demonstrating at the Statue of Liberty in favor of renaming New York City after Martin Luther King. The newsletter suggests that “Welfaria,” “Zooville,” “Rapetown,” “Dirtburg,”and “Lazyopolis ” would be better alternatives—and says, “Next time, hold that demonstration at a food stamp bureau or a crack house.”

120 jaunte  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:04:36pm

re: #116 NJDhockeyfan

An October 1990 edition of the Political Report ridicules black activists, led by Al Sharpton, for demonstrating at the Statue of Liberty in favor of renaming New York City after Martin Luther King. The newsletter suggests that “Welfaria,” “Zooville,” “Rapetown,” “Dirtburg,”and “Lazyopolis ” would be better alternatives—and says, “Next time, hold that demonstration at a food stamp bureau or a crack house.”

Damn. But I understand the new talking point is that racism doesn't really exist because we're all one race.

121 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:04:41pm

re: #116 NJDhockeyfan

Thanks. That's the point Paulites refuse to acknowledge: there was so much of it that Paul couldn't have not known under most charitable assumptions.

122 Varek Raith  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:05:40pm

re: #119 SanFranciscoZionist

re: #120 jaunte

re: #116 NJDhockeyfan

o_O

123 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:05:53pm

re: #120 jaunte

Damn. But I understand the new talking point is that racism doesn't really exist because we're all one race.

Dr. Bronner's been telling us this for years, but do people listen?

124 darthstar  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:06:05pm

re: #118 SanFranciscoZionist

There's an awful lot of this stuff, isn't there?

It keeps the obsessive people obsessing. For the rest of us, Ron Paul is a nonentity.

125 Obdicut  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:07:56pm

re: #123 SanFranciscoZionist

Dr. Bronner's been telling us this for years, but do people listen?

Dr. Bronner is my favorite religious lunatic. He is so feel-good, and his soap is goddamn awesome.

126 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:09:02pm

Brine is done and waiting to chill. Yippie!

127 darthstar  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:10:33pm

re: #126 Slumbering Behemoth

Brine is done and waiting to chill. Yippie!

I cooked brine up for our TG Turkey...fun times.

128 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:14:26pm

re: #127 darthstar

I cooked brine up for our TG Turkey...fun times.

That was my original plan, but everyone got sick or couldn't get off work to make it down for TG, so I canceled it.

Now TG turkey is XM turkey.

129 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:15:11pm

re: #127 darthstar

BTW, what ingredients did you use in your brine?

130 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:15:58pm

Brine? Saltwater? WTF?

131 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:16:05pm

re: #125 Obdicut

Dr. Bronner is my favorite religious lunatic. He is so feel-good, and his soap is goddamn awesome.

All one! All one!

And good soap, too.

132 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:16:24pm

re: #130 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Question(s)?

133 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:16:56pm

re: #132 Slumbering Behemoth

Question(s)?

Yes. Why in the hell would someone use brine?

134 Obdicut  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:17:21pm

re: #131 SanFranciscoZionist

About six months ago, my wife stormed into the bedroom holding a bottle of Dr. Bronner (which I'd bought) and said, "Hey, look. There's some crazy shit on this bottle!" She was nonplussed that I already knew about it, and needed some convincing we weren't sending money to some dude that would wind up in a Waco like situation.

135 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:18:24pm

re: #134 Obdicut

About six months ago, my wife stormed into the bedroom holding a bottle of Dr. Bronner (which I'd bought) and said, "Hey, look. There's some crazy shit on this bottle!" She was nonplussed that I already knew about it, and needed some convincing we weren't sending money to some dude that would wind up in a Waco like situation.

Dr. Bronner will not end up in a Waco-like situation. This I feel confident about.

136 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:18:51pm

re: #134 Obdicut

About six months ago, my wife stormed into the bedroom holding a bottle of Dr. Bronner (which I'd bought) and said, "Hey, look. There's some crazy shit on this bottle!" She was nonplussed that I already knew about it, and needed some convincing we weren't sending money to some dude that would wind up in a Waco like situation.

Damn hippies make great backpacking soap...makes me naughty bits tingle.

;-P

137 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:19:09pm

re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist

Dr. Bronner will not end up in a Waco-like situation. This I feel confident about.

Especially since he's dead, IIRC.

138 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:20:07pm

re: #137 talon_262

Especially since he's dead, IIRC.

How do you think they make the soap?

(I don't know who he is)

139 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:20:20pm

re: #119 SanFranciscoZionist

Chunky, I know you do not actually want to read the newsletters, but this passes my test for "Yo, Is This Shit Racist":

An October 1990 edition of the Political Report ridicules black activists, led by Al Sharpton, for demonstrating at the Statue of Liberty in favor of renaming New York City after Martin Luther King. The newsletter suggests that “Welfaria,” “Zooville,” “Rapetown,” “Dirtburg,”and “Lazyopolis ” would be better alternatives—and says, “Next time, hold that demonstration at a food stamp bureau or a crack house.”

Oh my...

In the April 1993 Ron Paul Survival Report, the author—writing in the first person—states, “Whether [the 1993 World Trade Center bombing] was a setup by the Israeli Mossad, as a Jewish friend of mine suspects, or was truly a retaliation by the Islamic fundamentalists, matters little.” The newsletters also warns readers to “do your very best to keep your family away from inner cities. If you can’t, have a haven remote from the metropolitan areas.”

140 darthstar  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:20:42pm

re: #129 Slumbering Behemoth

BTW, what ingredients did you use in your brine?

Couple gallons of apple juice, few cups of kosher salt, sugar, a stalk of fresh ginger sliced into bits, garlic, 8 oranges quartered...

141 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:21:23pm

re: #138 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How do you think they make the soap?

(I don't know who he is)

Emanuel Bronner

142 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:21:45pm

re: #133 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The salt content in the brine is higher than the salt content in the turkey. Soaking the turkey in the brine creates a salt imbalance that the process of osmosis attempts to correct.

The brine solution, and any herbs and spices within it, get sucked into the turkey at a cellular level. Not only does this infuse the turkey with flavor, but it also breaks down the connective tissue in the meat, making it more tender and juicy.

Any other questions?

143 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:23:32pm

re: #140 darthstar

Wow, that sounds good.

I used salt, distilled water, apple cider vinegar, brown sugar, molasses, sage, rosemary, time, and pepper corns.

144 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:23:36pm

re: #142 Slumbering Behemoth

Any other questions?

Yeah. What did the turkey do to you?
/

145 darthstar  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:24:23pm

re: #143 Slumbering Behemoth

Wow, that sounds good.

I used salt, distilled water, apple cider vinegar, brown sugar, molasses, sage, rosemary, time, and pepper corns.

That sounds equally good.

146 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:25:02pm

re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist

Dr. Bronner will not end up in a Waco-like situation. This I feel confident about.

Agreed. He has had a treatment course. I'm sure he got better./

In 1947, while promoting his "Moral ABC" at the University of Chicago, Bronner was arrested and committed to a mental hospital in Elgin, Illinois, from which he escaped after shock treatments.[1]

147 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:25:16pm

re: #144 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Trust me, it is awesome. Brining also makes the turkey cook faster. All useless info for a vegetarian, but you did ask. :P

148 Obdicut  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:25:43pm

re: #144 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yeah. What did the turkey do to you?
/

It looked at me all delicious.

Speaking of which, this is a comic I think you'd enjoy:

Reginald D. Hunter.

149 jaunte  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:26:16pm

re: #134 Obdicut

"Hey, look. There's some crazy shit on this bottle!"

It's good for people who like to read in the shower.

150 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:27:20pm

re: #138 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How do you think they make the soap?

(I don't know who he is)

Amiable gentleman who founded a company that makes Castile soaps. Said soaps are sold in bottles and wrappers covered with the happy, somewhat hyper writings of the company's founder about peace and the unity of man.

151 Obdicut  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:28:42pm

re: #150 SanFranciscoZionist

To dream the impossible dream! To reach that unreachable star! 41 AII-One, All-One we are! To fight that unbeatable foe! To go where the brave dare not go! To right the unrightable wrong! To love pure, chaste, from afar! To try when your arms are too weary! 'Til All- One, AII4ne we are! For this is my goal! To reach that unreachable star. No matter how hopeless, no matter how far! To fight for the right without question or pause, to be willing to march into hell for a heavenly cause! For I know that if I follow this glorious quest, my heart will lie peaceful & calm when I'm laid to my rest! And I know that the world will be better for this, that one man, tortured, blinded, covered with scars, still strove with his last ounce of courage, to reach that unreachable star 'til united All-one, All-one we are!

A fire, a mist, a planet, a crystal & a cell; a jellyfish, a dinosaur, caves where cavemen dwell! Then, a sense for work-love-song-art-law-play-beauty, a face turned up from the sod! Sure, it's constructive-evolution, guided by One, ever-recreating God! One almighty, all-embracing, ever-loving, everevolving Eternal Father, guiding all mankind up from dust, driven by hungers, half-true hate, up by hard work, full-truth, great love, song speech-&-Profitsharing State, up into the Kingdom. the dictatorship of God's law uniting All-One-God-Faith; "Listen Children Eternal Father Eternal One!" Exceptions? None! Thank God we don't descend down from perfect Adam & Eve to sinful sinner. Brother's Keeper, divided slave! United-brave, from dust we ascend up!

152 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:29:14pm

re: #148 Obdicut

It looked at me all delicious.

Hen had it coming.

153 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:29:28pm

re: #147 Slumbering Behemoth

Trust me, it is awesome. Brining also makes the turkey cook faster. All useless info for a vegetarian, but you did ask. :P

Well, if you're ovo-lacto you could use brining to create Limburger....

154 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:29:49pm

re: #143 Slumbering Behemoth

Wow, that sounds good.

I used salt, distilled water, apple cider vinegar, brown sugar, molasses, sage, rosemary, time, and pepper corns.

How long does it take?

yes, you deserved that

155 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:32:17pm

My No. 8 incident of homosexual abuse is Macy's Department Store and its cooperation with sex-change anarchy. The clothing store fired an employee in San Antonio, Texas, who refused to let a man use the women's fitting room. She claimed her religious rights under employment law; Macy's claimed transvestite rights superseded faith. What happened to the Constitution? And what's happening to America? I hope America avoids Macy's after this anti-Christian, anti-family, anti-woman decision.

What does either the Constitution have to say about transgendered people using the ladies' fitting room?

156 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:32:57pm

re: #154 wrenchwench

How long does it take?

yes, you deserved that

A stitch in thyme saves nine.

//

157 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:34:58pm

re: #154 wrenchwench

How long does it take?

I mixed in about 30 cellular minutes. It's okay though, the weren't roll-over minutes, so they would have been wasted anyway.

and don't ever hesitate to poke fun at any of my typos, especially if they're hilarious

158 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:37:38pm

re: #155 SanFranciscoZionist

My No. 8 incident of homosexual abuse is Macy's Department Store and its cooperation with sex-change anarchy. The clothing store fired an employee in San Antonio, Texas, who refused to let a man use the women's fitting room. She claimed her religious rights under employment law; Macy's claimed transvestite rights superseded faith. What happened to the Constitution? And what's happening to America? I hope America avoids Macy's after this anti-Christian, anti-family, anti-woman decision.

What does either the Constitution have to say about transgendered people using the ladies' fitting room?

Or sex-change anarchy, for that matter?

159 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:38:03pm

re: #156 Gus 802

A stitch in thyme saves nine.

//

Sage wisdom indeed.

160 jaunte  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:38:45pm

re: #155 SanFranciscoZionist

"Texas sex-change anarchy"

Russ Meyer working titles.

161 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:39:52pm

At this rate, Fox News "contributors" will start getting visits from the Secret Service for making threats against the POTUS


America! People actually watch this shit!

162 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:40:34pm

re: #158 wrenchwench

Or sex-change anarchy, for that matter?

Sex change; anarchy; transvestites; and homosexuality. The whole thing is rather discordant since none of each leads to the other.

163 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:40:49pm

Well, I am off to buy a few items before the city rolls up the sidewalks for the next two days.

Laters all.

164 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:41:14pm

re: #159 Slumbering Behemoth

Sage wisdom indeed.

Uh oh, here we go, peppering another thread with puns.

165 engineer cat  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:41:26pm

allowing open homosexual behavior in our military.

dog knows what bizarre fantasies they have in mind when they say this

166 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:42:08pm

re: #134 Obdicut

About six months ago, my wife stormed into the bedroom holding a bottle of Dr. Bronner (which I'd bought) and said, "Hey, look. There's some crazy shit on this bottle!" She was nonplussed that I already knew about it, and needed some convincing we weren't sending money to some dude that would wind up in a Waco like situation.

Your wife would not like my bookshelf, hahaha

167 reine.de.tout  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:45:26pm

re: #150 SanFranciscoZionist

Amiable gentleman who founded a company that makes Castile soaps. Said soaps are sold in bottles and wrappers covered with the happy, somewhat hyper writings of the company's founder about peace and the unity of man.

"somewhat" hyper? Completely ADD, if you ask me.

168 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:46:01pm

re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist

Dr. Bronner will not end up in a Waco-like situation. This I feel confident about.

What a shootout involving Dr. Bronner might look like:

169 Obdicut  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:52:26pm

re: #168 goddamnedfrank

The hell?

170 Varek Raith  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 2:58:37pm

re: #169 Obdicut

The hell?

Do not question the double rainbow.

171 Varek Raith  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:02:22pm
172 Obdicut  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:04:52pm

re: #171 Varek Raith

Justice Department Blocks South Carolina’s Voter ID Law

Nobama's inJustice Department allows convicted gay felon Muslim illegal immigrant murders to vote.

173 Aye Pod  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:13:52pm

re: #28 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Wow, dumb conservative white bigots at Fox, who would'a thought.

Why are you attacking all white people? //

PS Iceweasel, 2 mins ago: "Why is the toilet seat always up when I go in there?"

174 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:14:21pm

re: #172 Obdicut

Atheistfelonmuslimillegalimmigrantmurdererabortiondoctorssecularprancingdrillsergeantskinnycrackheadedmormonsexchangenarcy!

175 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:14:48pm

Oops. I broke the internet.

176 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:15:14pm

re: #173 Jimmah

Why are you attacking all white people? //

PS Iceweasel, 2 mins ago: "Why is the toilet seat always up when I go in there?"

Hi Jimmah. How are you and Ice doing?

177 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:15:43pm

re: #156 Gus 802

A stitch in thyme saves nine.

//

Hi all. I'm preparing my grocery list for Christmas. Crabmeat stuffed cornish game hens. Been awhile, but I'm excited for the yum.

Hope everyone is good and ready for at least the time off. Funny how we had more days off for thanksgiving, but I'll survive.

To the thread topic: The assholes at fox get away with so much, how times have changed.

178 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:20:17pm

re: #156 Gus 802

A stitch in thyme saves nine.

//

Niche in time saves Stein.

(Court ruling from an Asimov SF story.)

179 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:21:06pm

And having viewed the clip, I concur in saying shame on Brent Bozell for flinging that insult at Obama, and shame as well (though to a lesser degree) on Mark Steyn for not calling him on it. But also shame on Chris Mathews for saying Newt Gingrich "looks like a car bomber", because that was also a ugly line.

Steyn should apologize for failing to take Bozell to task, and both Mathews and Bozell should be suspended from their jobs for their vile words.

180 Achilles Tang  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:21:37pm

Trivia moment:

A cylinder of mozzarella of length a and radius z has a volume equal to pizza.

(Credits Sci Am )

181 jaunte  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:21:47pm

re: #173 Jimmah

Why are you attacking all white people? //

PS Iceweasel, 2 mins ago: "Why is the toilet seat always up when I go in there?"

"Training!"

...his long-suffering Chinese servant, Cato, who is instructed by Clouseau to attack him when least expected to sharpen his martial arts skills. [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

182 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:23:19pm

re: #179 Dark_Falcon

And having viewed the clip, I concur in saying shame on Brent Bozell for flinging that insult at Obama, and shame as well (though to a lesser degree) on Mark Steyn for not calling him on it. But also shame on Chris Mathews for saying Newt Gingrich "looks like a car bomber", because that was also a ugly line.

Steyn should apologize for failing to take Bozell to task, and both Mathews and Bozell should be suspended from their jobs for their vile words.

Bozell is pretty much "self-employed."

183 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:24:20pm

Hmmm. Twitter thinks I should follow Snoop Dog and Rob Lowe.

184 Aye Pod  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:25:04pm

re: #176 Dark_Falcon

Hi Jimmah. How are you and Ice doing?

Great! Today is our second annivwersary. Can't believe it's 2 years since that day in Manhattan when we tied the knot. Shout out to Basho who was our best man at the ceremony :)

185 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:25:57pm

Before I leave for reals this time, I just had to say...

re: #174 Gus 802

Atheistfelonmuslimillegalimmigrantmurdererabortiondoctorssecularprancingdrillsergeant ...

I am now trying to picture a prancing R. Lee Ermy in Full Metal Jacket.

RLE: "Where you from son"!

Private Cowboy: "SIR! TEXAS, SIR!"

RLE: "Holy dog shit. Texas? Only steers and queers come from Texas, Private Cowboy. And sweetie, trust me when I say you look like the latter, 'cuz I would know honey."

186 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:28:54pm

re: #184 Jimmah

Great! Today is our second annivwersary. Can't believe it's 2 years since that day in Manhattan when we tied the knot. Shout out to Basho who was our best man at the ceremony :)

Happy anniversary you two! Beautiful blessings!

That made my night!!!

187 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:29:44pm

Oh, and for old times sake, will you please post the two cats fucking?? ;)

188 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:30:35pm

re: #185 Slumbering Behemoth

Before I leave for reals this time, I just had to say...

I am now trying to picture a prancing R. Lee Ermy in Full Metal Jacket.

RLE: "Where you from son"!

Private Cowboy: "SIR! TEXAS, SIR!"

RLE: "Holy dog shit. Texas? Only steers and queers come from Texas, Private Cowboy. And sweetie, trust me when I say you look like the latter, 'cuz I would know honey."

RLE: WHAT have you done to my beloved Corps!?!?!

189 Aye Pod  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:33:59pm

re: #187 Stanley Sea

Oh, and for old times sake, will you please post the two cats fucking?? ;)

Best weishes to you Stanley Sea and our best for a wondeful new year!

You read our minds :)

And here's our other song for this time of year:

190 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:34:37pm

One of the African-American then-teenagers shot by Bernhard Goetz in 1984 has died in a possible suicide.

A man who was injured by Manhattan subway gunman Bernhard Goetz has been found dead in what appears to be a drug overdose 27 years to the day after the shooting, NBCNewYork.com reported Friday.

James Ramseur, one of four then-teenagers wounded in the notorious 1984 incident, was discovered dead in a Bronx motel room on Thursday, with two empty prescription pill bottles next to the bed. The labels were scratched off of the bottles, The New York Daily News reported.

His death is being investigated as an apparent overdose and as a possible suicide, sources told The Daily News.

Two takeaways from the article:

Ramseur was freed from prison last year after serving 25 years for a rape, according to NBCNewYork.com.

According to Biography.com, Goetz still lives in New York City and has opened a store called Vigilante Electronics.

I don't mean this to be about race. Other black men have responded to both racism and being stopped from committing a crime (whichever you think the shooting incident was) with a determination to succeed and prove their detractors wrong. Ramseur made the wrong choice and committed a very serious crime. He wound up spending most of his life in prison, and like Brooks of The Shawshank Redemption, found himself ill prepared to deal with life once released. But given the horrendous hand life dealt him starting out, one must at least feel a small amount of pity for James Rameur. Goetz, on the other hand, was dealt a much better hand in life and after paying for his crime went back to playing it decently.

The fact that one man owns a business and the other died broken says a great deal about both how you get your start and how you live your life.

191 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:36:17pm

re: #184 Jimmah

Great! Today is our second anniversary. Can't believe it's 2 years since that day in Manhattan when we tied the knot. Shout out to Basho who was our best man at the ceremony :)

Congratulations! I wish you many more, and may they all be happy.

192 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:37:59pm

re: #190 Dark_Falcon

Ya, but Goetz is making money OFF his crime. Proud to be a vigilante. Works in America.

193 Obdicut  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:37:59pm

re: #190 Dark_Falcon

I don't mean this to be about race.

That was kind of unnecessary. As was talking about 'other black men'. If you hadn't introduced the subject of race, it wouldn't have been necessary to address it, would it?

194 Aye Pod  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:41:22pm

re: #191 Dark_Falcon

Congratulations! I wish you many more, and may they all be happy.

Thanks DF! Wishing you and yours a very happy new year!

195 makeitstop  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:41:27pm

re: #178 oaktree

Niche in time saves Stein.

(Court ruling from an Asimov SF story.)

A Lichtenstein saves nine.

(Your post made me think of 'Lichtenstein.')

196 darthstar  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:44:31pm

re: #195 makeitstop

A Lichtenstein saves nine.

(Your post made me think of 'Lichtenstein.')

Frankenstein drinks wine.
Image: apen25l.jpg

197 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:48:31pm

Bbl!

Thanks for the nostalgia Jimmah. Major love to you & Ice.

198 Aye Pod  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:52:54pm

ITV fuddy-duddies (probably pals of extremely silly Tory prime Minister David Cameron) censor (as in completely pull) highly amusing Jesus song by Tim Minchin - Woody Allen Jesus:

Story Here

199 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:59:01pm

re: #193 Obdicut

That was kind of unnecessary. As was talking about 'other black men'. If you hadn't introduced the subject of race, it wouldn't have been necessary to address it, would it?

Goetz's actions were thought by many to be based on racism, and as such I thought that an article on the Goetz shooting automatically had race as an element. I also thought that discussing Goetz's relative success versus Ramseur's failure could possibly be taken the wrong way, so for both of those reasons I thought the disclaimer wise. I wanted to be clear I wasn't trying to say something racist via 'code words', as some on Fox News are wont to do.

BBL, but will reply then.

200 Obdicut  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 4:04:23pm

re: #199 Dark_Falcon

Goetz's actions were thought by many to be based on racism, and as such I thought that an article on the Goetz shooting automatically had race as an element. I also thought that discussing Goetz's relative success versus Ramseur's failure could possibly be taken the wrong way, so for both of those reasons I thought the disclaimer wise. I wanted to be clear I wasn't trying to say something racist via 'code words', as some on Fox News are wont to do.

BBL, but will reply then.

It's just nothing you were talking about had to do with race. You were talking about background having an effect on outcome, which is kind of indisputable.

201 darthstar  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 4:07:42pm

re: #200 Obdicut

It's just nothing you were talking about had to do with race. You were talking about background having an effect on outcome, which is kind of indisputable.

I watched the social experiment documentary with Eddie Murphy and Dan Ackroyd. It was the Dukes. People can change. Jamie Lee Curtis was a hooker back then and look at her now...she's famous!
//

202 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 4:23:30pm

re: #199 Dark_Falcon

Goetz's actions were thought by many to be based on racism, and as such I thought that an article on the Goetz shooting automatically had race as an element. I also thought that discussing Goetz's relative success versus Ramseur's failure could possibly be taken the wrong way, so for both of those reasons I thought the disclaimer wise. I wanted to be clear I wasn't trying to say something racist via 'code words', as some on Fox News are wont to do.

If I were going to disagree with your optics, it wouldn't be about race as motive for shooting, but how Goetz's crime was perceived--and justified in public consciousness--through the filter of him middle class, "mad as hell and not going to take it," and, yeah, also as a white guy shooting for young black men with criminal records. It's the stuff modern jury nullification strategies are made of--a crime and perp you can market as not deserving the charge, a victim that's easy to make look deserving of what they got.

Basically, Goetz had a shit ton of privilege to cushion him. That his crime was/is lionized by any sub-segment of the society he dwells in sets him drastically apart from your typical ex-con. This is not a Horatio Alger bootstraps story.

Similarly, barring a lot more detail about Ramseur, I find your attributions about what prompted his suicide to be opportunistic and clearly derived from a desire for narrative contrast rather than actual knowledge of his intentions.

203 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 4:30:16pm

re: #185 Slumbering Behemoth

Before I leave for reals this time, I just had to say...

I am now trying to picture a prancing R. Lee Ermy in Full Metal Jacket.

RLE: "Where you from son"!

Private Cowboy: "SIR! TEXAS, SIR!"

RLE: "Holy dog shit. Texas? Only steers and queers come from Texas, Private Cowboy. And sweetie, trust me when I say you look like the latter, 'cuz I would know honey."

Mixing R. Lee Ermey from FMJ and Saving Silverman?

Well played, sir ;-P

204 Wozza Matter?  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 5:45:10pm

Oh sweet lumbering christ.

How do any of these people have careers?. Hell.

I mean, and he'll be invited back, again and again and again.

205 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 7:18:48pm

re: #120 jaunte

Damn. But I understand the new talking point is that racism doesn't really exist because we're all one race.

And!!

All humans started in Africa!

So I can't be a racist so stop saying that!!!@1

206 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 8:02:26pm

re: #200 Obdicut

It's just nothing you were talking about had to do with race. You were talking about background having an effect on outcome, which is kind of indisputable.

True. I'd say I was just acting with an abundance of caution.

207 RogueOne  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 5:10:21am

re: #184 Jimmah

Great! Today is our second annivwersary. Can't believe it's 2 years since that day in Manhattan when we tied the knot. Shout out to Basho who was our best man at the ceremony :)

Major Congrats to the both of ya!


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