AZ Gov. Brewer's Crusade to Deprive Gays of Health Insurance

AZ Gov. Brewer’s Crusade to Deprive Gays of Health Insurance

The party of homophobia

US NewsJuly 2012 • Views: 36,677

No state exemplifies what happens when wingnuts take control as much as Arizona, where right wing Gov. Jan Brewer is now asking the Supreme Court to let her take away the health insurance of state employees’ same-sex partners.

Arizona Governor Jan Brewer (R) has requested that the Supreme Court overturn a ruling that allows state employees to keep their same-sex partners on their benefits, including health insurance.

Brewer filed a petition for a writ of certiorari on July 2, requesting that the high court overturn the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit’s September 2011 ruling in Diaz vs. Brewer. The pushback comes three months after the Ninth Circuit denied a request by Arizona state lawyers to re-hear the case with an 11-judge panel.

Last September, the Ninth Circuit’s ruling prevented Arizona from implementing a law that would have barred state employees’ same-sex partners from remaining on their health plans. The ruling affirmed a lower court’s decision to place a preliminary injunction on the law.

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245 comments

Bulworth Mon, Jul 9, 2012 12:28:41pm

Just going out of her way to be an as$hole.

HappyWarrior Mon, Jul 9, 2012 12:29:22pm

Somehow the opposite of the redeem yourself scene in Dumb and Dumber applies here. Really, I didn't think Jan Brewer could get any more nasty and then she does something like this. So sick of right wing homophobic bullshit.

Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 12:29:51pm

They're all for individual liberty and freedom if it means buying a gun or not hiring or serving a minority, but as soon as you decide to allocate your benefits in a way they don't like, its time to step on the brakes.

Mattand Mon, Jul 9, 2012 12:30:55pm

This needs to be sent to the Log Cabin Republicans and GOP Proud ASAP.

Why, why, why do some people in the LGBT community support the GOP? I really don't understand this. It literally makes no sense.

HappyWarrior Mon, Jul 9, 2012 12:34:19pm

re: #4 Mattand

This needs to be sent to the Log Cabin Republicans and GOP Proud ASAP.

Why, why, why do some people in LGBT community support the GOP? I really don't understand this. It literally make no sense.

Knowing them, they'd whine about Obama just like they did after the president declared support for SSM even though their party nominated a guy who has in fact devolved on gay rights.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Mon, Jul 9, 2012 12:34:38pm

re: #4 Mattand

This needs to be sent to the Log Cabin Republicans and GOP Proud ASAP.

Why, why, why do some people in LGBT community support the GOP? I really don't understand this. It literally make no sense.

masochistic tendencies?
Self-loathing?
stockholm syndrome?

labman57 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 12:34:40pm

Governor Palpatine and the rest of the social conservatives and tea party fanatics of the Republican Party are the scorpions on the frog's back as it crosses the river.

These socially-regressive pundits and policy-makers are undermining the party's chances in the upcoming Fall elections, but alas, they cannot help themselves.

erik_t Mon, Jul 9, 2012 12:39:34pm

Why? Because fuck you, that's why.

Stay classy, Arizona.

dragonfire1981 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 12:40:32pm

Christian love, that's all it is.

Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 12:45:07pm

re: #9 dragonfire1981

Christian love, that's all it is.

You haven't heard?

Video: Scott Lively tells Bryan Fischer gays, Christians are 'at war'

wrenchwench Mon, Jul 9, 2012 12:45:54pm

Arizona: The Meth Lab of Democracy.

Targetpractice Mon, Jul 9, 2012 12:47:03pm

re: #4 Mattand

This needs to be sent to the Log Cabin Republicans and GOP Proud ASAP.

Why, why, why do some people in the LGBT community support the GOP? I really don't understand this. It literally makes no sense.

Selective deafness. They hear the "We want lower taxes, lower spending, and to make America 'business-friendly'" while blocking out "And we want gays back in the closet, at least until we can make 'curing' them legal."

Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Mon, Jul 9, 2012 12:50:05pm

re: #6 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

masochistic tendencies?
Self-loathing?
stockholm syndrome?

Influence.

On the one side you are simply one voice among many similar ones. On the other your voice stands out - even though it will be ignored.
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S'latch Mon, Jul 9, 2012 12:56:04pm

I don't know anything about this case. But I am fairly sure that Arizona is not one of the (few) states that prohibits discrimination based on sexual orientation. So, it makes me wonder, if Arizona wants to take away the health insurance of state employees' same-sex partners, why doesn't Arizona just fire the state employees' same-sex partners?

GunstarGreen Mon, Jul 9, 2012 12:59:21pm

I can understand (not condone, but understand) denying homosexual people the ability to get married.

But denying them the ability to put their partners -- that is, their family -- on their health insurance like everyone else?

I mean, for pete's sake, is she trying to legitimately earn the title "Darth Brewer"?

researchok Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:01:15pm

It's a moron contest with hard right idiots trying to outdo each other.

There appears to be real depth on that moron bench

erik_t Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:01:28pm

re: #15 GunstarGreen

I can understand (not condone, but understand) denying homosexual people the ability to get married.

But denying them the ability to put their partners -- that is, their family -- on their health insurance like everyone else?

It's one better -- she's trying to take away coverage that already exists. As usual, 'conservative' actually means 'regressive'. The status quo must be blown up in favor of the year 1924.

Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:01:30pm

re: #15 GunstarGreen

I can understand (not condone, but understand) denying homosexual people the ability to get married.

But denying them the ability to put their partners -- that is, their family -- on their health insurance like everyone else?

I mean, for pete's sake, is she trying to legitimately earn the title "Darth Brewer"?

It's like voter fraud. Once you allow it everyone will be putting their unemployed uncle or cousin on their policy while claiming the person is actually their lover.
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S'latch Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:04:21pm

re: #14 Lawrence Schmerel

I did not edit my comment in time. I meant ". . . state employees with same-sex partners?"

Ming Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:04:22pm

How much contact does Governor Brewer have with Arizona's state employees? I have to wonder how many of these state employees with same-sex partners she personally knows. If she stopped to think about it (not necessarily something she would do), she might wonder if people she works with, or people whom they know, are state employees with same-sex partners.

I have no idea where Gov. Brewer works most of the time, or whom she interacts with from day to day, but it seems odd that she's crusading against precisely those people whom she's either likely to know personally, or people she knows are likely to know personally.

erik_t Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:05:45pm

re: #20 Ming

If you think Brewer acts the way she does out of mere cluelessness, you're dramatically more charitable than I.

Vicious spiteful person is vicious and spiteful.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:12:27pm

I wonder if the people of AZ are really as crazy as the people they elect? Just look at them: Brewer, McCain, Flake, Arpaio. Are these people really that bat shit insane or are they embarrassed by these clowns too? I know when i was visiting friends in phoenix they seemed to all love "Sheriff Joe" but was before the Gestapo-esque tactics on brown people.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:14:55pm

sorry to go O/T but: BWAHAHAHAHA

goddamnedfrank Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:16:04pm

re: #19 Lawrence Schmerel

I did not edit my comment in time. I meant ". . . state employees with same-sex partners?"

There's litigation pending. If the State of Arizona tried to fire the entire class of plaintiffs now the Court would treat that action as the most egregious kind of contempt.

Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:17:35pm

re: #23 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

sorry to go O/T but: BWAHAHAHAHA

"Dean's lawyer is Larry Klayman"

I know that name...

Larry Klayman Wonders if John Roberts was 'Bribed or Blackmailed' into Upholding Health Care Reform

Targetpractice Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:24:05pm

re: #25 Kragar

"Dean's lawyer is Larry Klayman"

I know that name...

Larry Klayman Wonders if John Roberts was 'Bribed or Blackmailed' into Upholding Health Care Reform

Nothing has filled my black heart with more mirth in the last two weeks than watching the wingnuts work themselves into a lather over how Roberts "betrayed" them. Or how quickly they've dropped any support of him, like Romney backing away from his promises of nominating future justices in the same mold.

lawhawk Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:24:28pm

Okay, the legal reason she's (Arizona) claims in pushing ahead with the appeal to the US S.Ct. is that the Ninth Circuit misconstrued the Equal Protection clause.

The relevant part of the 14th Amendment:

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Considering that the courts have construed this to require extending benefits for same sex partners, she's looking to narrow the Equal Protection clause so it doesn't apply to gays and lesbians.

She's hoping to get the S.Ct. to overturn the 9th Circuit. Procedurally, the 9th has looked at the issue twice. First as a 3-judge panel, and the second time, it refused to look it at a full-11 member panel. The 9th had upheld the trial court's ruling. The S.Ct. has until August 9 to issue a response on cert. Brewer v. Diaz Dkt No 12-23.

The 9th Circuit had found that the AZ law would have been discriminatory on a rational basis (the lowest level of review - strict scrutiny being highest):

In sum, the district court correctly recognized that barring the state of Arizona from discriminating against same-sex
couples in its distribution of employee health benefits does not constitute the recognition of a new constitutional right to such benefits. Rather, it is consistent with long standing equal protection jurisprudence holding that “some objectives, such as ‘a bare . . . desire to harm a politically unpopular group,’ are not legitimate state interests.”

HappyWarrior Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:30:59pm

re: #26 Targetpractice

Nothing has filled my black heart with more mirth in the last two weeks than watching the wingnuts work themselves into a lather over how Roberts "betrayed" them. Or how quickly they've dropped any support of him, like Romney backing away from his promises of nominating future justices in the same mold.

From model justice to traitor in a day. They were totally unprepared for Roberts not taking their side because they thought Roberts would take their side and never thought about the possibility he'd rule against them.It wold be hilarious started voting more with the court's liberal bloc just to spite them.

Targetpractice Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:38:12pm

re: #28 HappyWarrior

From model justice to traitor in a day. They were totally unprepared for Roberts not taking their side because they thought Roberts would take their side and never thought about the possibility he'd rule against them.It wold be hilarious started voting more with the court's liberal bloc just to spite them.

I was as surprised as they were on Robert's ruling and have my own theories as to why, most of them starting with "Avoid becoming the most despised court since Dredd Scott," as he's been on record as worrying about the reputation of the court in light of rulings like Citizens United.

But the wingnuts can't seem to make up their minds whether he's a traitor or that he was "forced" to vote contrary to what they expected. The latter reads pretty much like desperation, some vain hope that they can "prove" that Roberts was forced by Obama into ruling ACA constitutional.

goddamnedfrank Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:38:32pm

re: #25 Kragar

"Dean's lawyer is Larry Klayman"

I know that name...

Larry Klayman Wonders if John Roberts was 'Bribed or Blackmailed' into Upholding Health Care Reform

I've been wanting to make that baseless, inflammatory and libelous claim about Kennedy for some time. The dude sides with the majority 95% of the time, therefore it makes sense that he'd be the Justice to try and corrupt. One can explain the times he sided with the liberal wing as his price not having been met.

Actually I don't really believe any of that. I just think he's addicted to his role as being "the Decider." That he's wrapped up too much of his ego there.

Amory Blaine Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:40:30pm

Romney will shine his riding boots while these fascists take over. Vote at your peril.

Mr. Hammer Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:43:26pm

re: #17 erik_t

As I read the opinion, I think the law that is at stake was signed in 2008 by Governor Napolitano - to expand the definition of the term "dependant" to include qualified domestic partners, who could be of either sex.

I think the current AZ administration wanted to eliminate the cost to the state of offering coverage to domestic partners as a whole, and did so in 2009 by redefining "dependents" as spouses or children below a certain age only - thus eliminating all domestic partners regardless of orientation.

Check out the opinion. It is an interesting case.
[Link: tinyurl.com...]

HappyWarrior Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:44:31pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

I was as surprised as they were on Robert's ruling and have my own theories as to why, most of them starting with "Avoid becoming the most despised court since Dredd Scott," as he's been on record as worrying about the reputation of the court in light of rulings like Citizens United.

But the wingnuts can't seem to make up their minds whether he's a traitor or that he was "forced" to vote contrary to what they expected. The latter reads pretty much like desperation, some vain hope that they can "prove" that Roberts was forced by Obama into ruling ACA constitutional.

It's always easy to have a ready made conspiracy in case things don't go your way. I think that's what we're seeing out of Klayman.

freetoken Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:50:22pm

Florida Republicans hail Donald Trump as ‘Statesman of the Year’

Conspiracy theorist and millionaire real estate mogul Donald Trump will be regaled by Florida’s Sarasota Republican Party as “Statesman of the Year,” in an elaborate fundraiser dinner set to take place on the eve of the 2012 Republican National Convention (RNC) in Tampa.

Trump, who is not a statesman but has been raising funds for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R), was selected by Florida Republicans because, as Sarasota GOP Chair Joe Gruters told Talking Points Memo, “He’s a sage, skillful and respected leader” who’s doing “all he can to take our country back.”

[...]

Idiots.

The only thing of which Trump could be a "statesman" is a failed hair product.

Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:50:31pm

Don't these bozos have anything better to do with their lives? Time and time again Republicans, not only in Arizona, have gone out of their way to disenfranchise minorities.

Lidane Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:51:15pm

re: #26 Targetpractice

Nothing has filled my black heart with more mirth in the last two weeks than watching the wingnuts work themselves into a lather over how Roberts "betrayed" them. Or how quickly they've dropped any support of him, like Romney backing away from his promises of nominating future justices in the same mold.

Just imagine what they'll be like should Barack Obama win a second term.

Mr. Hammer Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:53:57pm

re: #27 lawhawk

I think the district court ruled that the elimination of domestic partner coverage was not discriminatory on its face, but that it had a discriminatory effect in Arizona because opposite-sex domestic partners can get around the change by marrying, whereas same-sex partners cannot.

Amory Blaine Mon, Jul 9, 2012 1:56:37pm

I Was A Right-Wing Child Star

By Jonathan Krohn

Excerpt:

But then, earlier this week, Politico released an interview in which I announced I wasn’t a conservative anymore — and the proverbial crap hit the fan. Since then, I have been treated by the political right with all the maturity of schoolyard bullies. The Daily Caller, for instance, wrote three articles about my shift, topping it off with an opinion piece in which they stated that I deserved criticism because I wear “thick-rimmed glasses” and I like Ludwig Wittgenstein. Why don’t they just call me “four-eyes”? These are not adults leveling serious criticism; these are scorned right-wingers showing all the maturity of a little boy. No wonder I fit in so well when I was 13.

Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:00:34pm

Reality as Seen from the Right

Earlier this year, a virus infected millions of computers around the world that caused the infected computers to visit fake websites and prevented owners from visiting security websites to remove it. In an effort to stop the virus, the FBI set up several clean servers so that those infected would still be able to access the internet and remove the virus from their computers.

The FBI's efforts were only temporary and today the clean servers it had set up were scheduled to be turned off and therefore any person with an infected computer that had not gotten rid of the virus by today risked losing access to the internet.

So how is Janet Porter and her Faith2Action organization reporting this news? By suggesting that the FBI is trying to take away your internet access:

freetoken Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:01:29pm

Rush Smears NY Muslims: We're Letting "The People Who Participated In That Destruction" On 9-11 "Build A Mosque There"

Yup, that what he said. Go listen to the recording.

Lidane Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:03:13pm

re: #38 Amory Blaine

These are not adults leveling serious criticism; these are scorned right-wingers showing all the maturity of a little boy. No wonder I fit in so well when I was 13.

Heh. So true.

Perfect summary of the modern right wing in just two sentences.

Bulworth Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:03:24pm

re: #40 freetoken

Rush Smears NY Muslims: We're Letting "The People Who Participated In That Destruction" On 9-11 "Build A Mosque There"

Yup, that what he said. Go listen to the recording.

Yes, the exact same people who flew the airplanes into the towers. The exact same people, Rushbo. They didn't die. //

erik_t Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:04:03pm

re: #40 freetoken

Rush Smears NY Muslims: We're Letting "The People Who Participated In That Destruction" On 9-11 "Build A Mosque There"

Yup, that what he said. Go listen to the recording.

Low even for Rush. Such a low bar to clear that he had to dig a trench underneath it.

Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:04:14pm

re: #11 wrenchwench

Arizona: The Meth Lab of Democracy.

Arizona: The Bath Salts of State Governance

Mattand Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:05:16pm

re: #40 freetoken

Rush Smears NY Muslims: We're Letting "The People Who Participated In That Destruction" On 9-11 "Build A Mosque There"

Yup, that what he said. Go listen to the recording.

Do we really have to have this fight again?

Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:06:01pm

re: #38 Amory Blaine

I Was A Right-Wing Child Star

By Jonathan Krohn

Excerpt:

"I would love it if a bunch of angry right-wingers stopped saying stupid things about me. I also want a six-pack, a mansion in the Hamptons and a beautiful woman with cans the size of my head. "

HUZZAH!

Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:06:47pm

Gee whiz. I can think of WWII; Germans; Japanese; other former Axis nations. Would an ignorant toad.

Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:07:54pm

OT - Sergey's doing fine. Taking a break.

Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:07:56pm

re: #47 Gus

Gee whiz. I can think of WWII; Germans; Japanese; other former Axis nations. Would an ignorant toad.

We must destroy Britain!!!

Varek Raith Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:08:30pm

re: #48 Gus

OT - Sergey's doing fine. Taking a break.

Yeah?
Well tell him to knock it off!
/

CuriousLurker Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:09:54pm

re: #42 Bulworth

Yes, the exact same people who flew the airplanes into the towers. The exact same people, Rushbo. They didn't die. //

That's what I was just thinking, "Wait, I thought all the hijackers died on 9/11..."

Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:10:11pm

re: #50 Varek Raith

Yeah?
Well tell him to knock it off!
/

I get a little worried sometimes. Plus I've been watching all those car crashes from Russia on Liveleak.

Varek Raith Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:10:20pm

re: #23 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

sorry to go O/T but: BWAHAHAHAHA

So true...

Moral: If you lead a hate group, be prepared for Karma. She will run over your Dogma like a semi over an armadillo on an Oklahoma highway.

Varek Raith Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:12:15pm

Romney Campaign’s Favored News Source Pushes Conspiracy That President Obama Was Secret CIA Agent In Pakistan

You can't make this shit up.

CuriousLurker Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:13:36pm

re: #54 Varek Raith

Romney Campaign’s Favored News Source Pushes Conspiracy That President Obama Was Secret CIA Agent In Pakistan

You can't make this shit up.

I thought POTUS hated America...I'm sooo confused. O_o

freetoken Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:13:44pm

re: #54 Varek Raith

Romney Campaign’s Favored News Source Pushes Conspiracy That President Obama Was Secret CIA Agent In Pakistan

You can't make this shit up.

Well, yes, they do - they do make it up.

erik_t Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:13:46pm

re: #54 Varek Raith

Romney Campaign’s Favored News Source Pushes Conspiracy That President Obama Was Secret CIA Agent In Pakistan

You can't make this shit up.

The crazed conspiracy theory sure to bring down this house of cards is... that Obama served his country overseas in a dangerous capacity?

Are they even trying?

freetoken Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:15:51pm

Consumer warning: Watch out for Obama utility bill scheme

Have you heard that President Obama has plans to pay your utility bills? Sounds too good to be true, doesn't it?
And it is. It's a cruel scheme to seal your identity.

Criminals are making their way across the country, and they're tricking people into believing there's a special federal government assistance program that will pay their utility bills.

It's sometimes described as a bailout from the Obama administration.

Victims are given bank account and routing numbers to use when paying their bills online.

[...]

They ask for your Social Security number and other personal information during registration, which they can use to steal your identity.

Beware, because it’s a trick. There's no such utility payment assistance program.

Last week, 2,000 people fell for it in Tampa, Fla.

[...]

2000 people, in one city, in one week?

And here we wonder how Joe Farah makes his money.

Lidane Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:16:29pm

re: #54 Varek Raith

Romney Campaign’s Favored News Source Pushes Conspiracy That President Obama Was Secret CIA Agent In Pakistan

You can't make this shit up.

I just...I can't with these people. WTF.

So according to the fucking loons, Barack Obama is a Kenyan Seekrit Mooslim Commie Nazi Overlord who hates America on one hand, and a secret CIA agent in Pakistan helping America on the other? I wish these people would make up their goddamn minds. Either he's Satan incarnate or he's a black Jason Bourne.

iossarian Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:16:45pm

re: #57 erik_t

The crazed conspiracy theory sure to bring down this house of cards is... that Obama served his country overseas in a dangerous capacity?

Are they even trying?

It works for them though, because it keeps their supporters in this haze of nightmarish fear and suspicion. So much easier than actually thinking about issues and stuff.

SteelGHAZI Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:17:02pm

re: #55 CuriousLurker

I thought POTUS hated America...I'm sooo confused. O_o

Clearly he's a triple agent!

Amory Blaine Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:19:43pm

I never click on Matt Drudges pre-WWII website anymore. It seemed every other link went to Big Douches web world. Breitbart owed his career to Drudge.

Killgore Trout Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:19:49pm

re: #48 Gus

OT - Sergey's doing fine. Taking a break.

Good news. I was kinda concerned it might be related to his political situation back home.

darthstar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:20:01pm

I think Jan Brewer is secretly trying to help turn Arizona blue in November...at least I hope that's what's happening.

erik_t Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:21:42pm

re: #61 Artist

Clearly he's a triple agent!

DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION!

Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:21:52pm

re: #63 Killgore Trout

Good news. I was kinda concerned it might be related to his political situation back home.

Thought about that as well.

darthstar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:22:13pm

re: #59 Lidane

I just...I can't with these people. WTF.

So according to the fucking loons, Barack Obama is a Kenyan Seekrit Mooslim Commie Nazi Overlord who hates America on one hand, and a secret CIA agent in Pakistan helping America on the other? I wish these people would make up their goddamn minds. Either he's Satan incarnate or he's a black Jason Bourne.

We'll know if in the debate he disarms Mitt and shoves a varmint up his ass.

Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:22:30pm

Apparently Chris Christie is a RINO.

Just weeks after New Jersey lawmakers passed a bill that would establish a program offering medical treatment instead of jail time for nonviolent drug offenders, Christie, a possible vice presidential contender, praised the measure during a speech in Washington, D.C.

"If you're pro-life, as I am, you can't be pro-life just in the womb. Every life is precious and every one of God's creatures can be redeemed," Christie said during a wide-ranging Monday morning address at the Brookings Institution, a public policy research organization. "But they won't be if we ignore them. ... I believe that the results will show, after this is fully implemented, will be startling because people can be treated and miracles happen every day at these facilities. Lives are restored."

In a move that sets Christie apart from the many Republicans who take a hard line on drug enforcement, Christie predicted that the recently passed measure, which mandates drug rehabilitation treatment for first-time nonviolent offenders, would be a success. He added that drug abuse should be considered an issue of "disease" in the eyes of the law, and not a criminal one.

Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:23:02pm

re: #67 darthstar

We'll know if in the debate he disarms Mitt and shoves a varmint up his ass.

So would that mean Satan or Bourne?

Schadenfreude 'r' Us Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:25:04pm

re: #54 Varek Raith

Romney Campaign’s Favored News Source Pushes Conspiracy That President Obama Was Secret CIA Agent In Pakistan

You can't make this shit up.

As I keep saying, the more I hear about this guy, the more impressed I am. (Thank you for your service, Mr. President!)

Lidane Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:25:39pm

re: #69 Kragar

So would that mean Satan or Bourne?

That depends. Are we talking about Matt Damon's version of Bourne or Jeremy Renner's, which should be out before the debates?

Heh.

dragonath Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:25:43pm

Is anyone else getting "We Came Unarmed... This Time" ads featuring pitchforks and torches? It links to some crappy Breitbart site.

CuriousLurker Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:26:24pm

re: #63 Killgore Trout

That's a really heavy subject he deals with. Ditto for people who deal with other types of horrific crimes & abuse. It has to be soul-crushing work to be exposed to such things day in & day out. May they be rewarded for their efforts.

sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:26:30pm

re: #72 Be Zorch, Daddio

Is anyone else getting "We Came Unarmed... This Time" ads featuring pitchforks and torches? It links to some crappy Breitbart site.

Nope

I only get penis enlargement ads

Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:26:31pm

re: #72 Be Zorch, Daddio

Is anyone else getting "We Came Unarmed... This Time" ads featuring pitchforks and torches? It links to some crappy Breitbart site.

I got insurance commercials.

Varek Raith Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:27:24pm

Name's Obama.
Barack Obama.

dragonath Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:29:59pm

re: #75 Kragar

I got it loaded up now... it's some rinky dink blog called "youviewed.com". Goddamn that is one ugly website.

Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:30:13pm

Fate Of Ron Paul Campaign Comes Down To Nebraska

Ron Paul’s last hope of challenging Mitt Romney for the presidential nomination at the Republican National Convention comes this Saturday at the Nebraska state GOP convention. If he gets a plurality of delegates in Nebraska, Paul’s name will be put forward for nomination, and he will be given 15 minutes to speak before the first round of balloting in Tampa — an embarrassing situation that Romney wants to avoid.

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!

darthstar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:30:29pm

re: #71 Lidane

That depends. Are we talking about Matt Damon's version of Bourne or Jeremy Renner's, which should be out before the debates?

Heh.

They're already remaking the Bourne Identity? Jesus fucking Christ, are there no script writers left? I'm looking forward to the remake of "The Dark Knight Rises" starring The Situation since I haven't seen the current release. I believe it should be out in time for Xmas.

Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:32:28pm

re: #78 Kragar

Fate Of Ron Paul Campaign Comes Down To Nebraska

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!

Ron Paul can still pull this off!

iossarian Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:33:52pm

re: #80 Gus

Ron Paul can still pull this off!

GOLD

Lidane Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:33:55pm

re: #79 darthstar

They're already remaking the Bourne Identity? Jesus fucking Christ, are there no script writers left? I'm looking forward to the remake of "The Dark Knight Rises" starring The Situation since I haven't seen the current release. I believe it should be out in time for Xmas.

It's not a remake. They're using the James Bond conceit that there was always more than one agent in the same program that Bourne was in.

Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:34:19pm

re: #81 iossarian

GOLD

Audit the Fed!!

Varek Raith Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:34:43pm

re: #83 Gus

Audit the Fed!!

FED THE GOLD!

iossarian Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:34:47pm

re: #83 Gus

Audit the Fed!!

Bring back segregation!

sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:36:05pm

re: #81 iossarian

GOLD

TEETH!

sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:36:48pm

re: #83 Gus

Audit the Fed!!

I think the feds drive Fords, not Audi's!

Varek Raith Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:37:07pm

Past 12 months warmest ever for U.S.

Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:37:57pm

BTW. Two air display show stoppers at Farnbourough this year has so far been the Qatar Airlines Boeing 787 and Malaysia Airlines Airbus A380.

iossarian Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:38:00pm

re: #88 Varek Raith

Past 12 months warmest ever for U.S.

Nope, not happening. Fingers in ears! NAHNAHNAH

Lidane Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:38:09pm

re: #88 Varek Raith

Past 12 months warmest ever for U.S.

Pfft. Everyone knows that climate science is just a liberal plot.

Enjoy a longer summer and stop being an anti-American traitor.

Amory Blaine Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:39:00pm

Yeah well it cooled off 30 degrees here yesterday!!1111Ty !@!1

sO MUCH FOR GLOOBAL WARMING!@@2!!!!!!TQy

Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:39:07pm

It has begun, the viral marketing for the Robocop remake

Youtube Video

Varek Raith Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:39:31pm

re: #89 Gus

BTW. Two air display show stoppers at Farnbourough this year has so far been the Qatar Airlines Boeing 787 and Malaysia Airlines Airbus A380.

Bigass planes being flown like fighters.
Awesome.

Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:40:56pm

re: #94 Varek Raith

Bigass planes being flown like fighters.
Awesome.

Yep. Low fuel weight and basically no pax/cargo weight.

BenghaziHoops Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:41:22pm

re: #88 Varek Raith

Past 12 months warmest ever for U.S.

Let's set the record straight.. Last summer was the hottest summer of all time in Oklahoma..It was horrible...But a few months ago the Weather service confirmed the statistics..It wasn't the hottest summer in Oklahoma. It was the hottest summer for all time in all the United States. Effen you Texas..We are #1!

Lidane Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:41:44pm

re: #93 Kragar

The trailer for the Judge Dredd reboot is out too:

Youtube Video

Varek Raith Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:42:28pm

re: #95 Gus

Yep. Low fuel weight and basically no pax/cargo weight.

Attention passengers, there is a Soviet MiG on our 6. Brace for evasive maneuvers

Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:42:45pm

re: #97 Lidane

The trailer for the Judge Dredd reboot is out too:

[Embedded content]

For a few weeks now, I'm withholding judgement for now.

100

Varek Raith Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:43:03pm

And Total Recall...
:/

101

Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:43:41pm

But still no Buckaroo Banzai...

102

Amory Blaine Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:44:03pm

I'd like to see a grittier remake of Gone With The Wind.

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:44:07pm

re: #98 Varek Raith

Attention passengers, there is a Soviet MiG on our 6. Brace for evasive maneuvers

Please place your trays in the upright position and ,,,, oh, hell,, who the hell am I kidding,, FREE DRINKS!!

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Varek Raith Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:44:42pm

re: #101 Kragar

But still no Buckaroo Banzai...

Please tell me Hollywood dropped the Akira remake.
Please.

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Amory Blaine Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:44:51pm

Pineapple juice and macadamia nuts please.

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Lidane Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:45:12pm

re: #99 Kragar

For a few weeks now, I'm withholding judgement for now.

I want to like it because I like Karl Urban as an actor despite some questionable choices on his part. I just can't help but have a bad feeling about how it's going to do in theaters.

107

sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:45:28pm

re: #102 Amory Blaine

I'd like to see a grittier remake of Gone With The Wind.

The Wizard of Oz

Upon meeting Oz, the lion eats him!

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iossarian Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:46:09pm

re: #99 Kragar

For a few weeks now, I'm withholding judgement for now.

Lol "withholding judgement".

JUDGE DREDD DOES NOT WITHHOLD JUDGEMENT.

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Four More Beers Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:46:23pm

The party of "limited government" and "individual liberty" strikes again. I don't know whether to laugh or cry about a Republican governor actually uttering anything about health care without the word

SOCIALISM!!!

creeping in every other sentence.

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BenghaziHoops Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:46:36pm

re: #105 Amory Blaine

Pineapple juice and macadamia nuts please.

I flew to Europe once and they gave you warm nuts...
Need I say more about service?
*wink*

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Amory Blaine Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:46:39pm

re: #107 sattv4u2

They're doing an Oz prequel.

Oz: The Great and Powerful

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Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:47:28pm

re: #106 Lidane

I want to like it because I like Karl Urban as an actor despite some questionable choices on his part. I just can't help but have a bad feeling about how it's going to do in theaters.

I'm preparing my "Don't fuck this up... don't fuck this up... DAMN IT!!! YOU FUCKED UP!" rant even now.

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:48:14pm

re: #111 Amory Blaine

They're doing an Oz prequel.

Oz: The Great and Powerful

I'll have to put it on my calender to make sure I miss it!!

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Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:48:46pm

re: #104 Varek Raith

Please tell me Hollywood dropped the Akira remake.
Please.

Still in development.

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Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:48:51pm

Alcoa beats estimates as carmakers buy more aluminum | bloom.bg/Ncgb52
— Bloomberg News (@BloombergNews) July 9, 2012

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Varek Raith Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:49:16pm

re: #114 Kragar

Still in development.

@#@#%@#$!#@%^!#@

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Randall Gross Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:49:26pm

Shit like this is exactly why we can't afford another GOP Supreme court pick or two over the next four years.

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:50:24pm

re: #117 Randall Gross

Shit like this is exactly why we can't afford another GOP Supreme court pick or two over the next four years.

I dunno

You've done pretty well with Roberts and Kennedy over the years

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Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:51:49pm

Rodeo creates effigy of President Obama, bull tackles it, Clown kicks it in the chest repeatedly bit.ly/OSh46e @FreakOutNation #p2
— Bret (@crewislife) July 9, 2012

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:52:16pm

re: #117 Randall Gross

re: #118 sattv4u2

I dunno

You've done pretty well with Roberts and Kennedy over the years

Not to mention the retired Souter

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iossarian Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:52:19pm

re: #118 sattv4u2

I dunno

You've done pretty well with Roberts and Kennedy over the years

A terrifying glimpse into an alternate reality where Kennedy is somehow a bastion of progressivism by dint of not being an out-and-out right-wing lunatic.

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iossarian Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:52:50pm

Not to mention Roberts lol. The lion of the left!

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Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:53:20pm

re: #116 Varek Raith

@#@#%@#$!#@%^!#@

How bad could it.. oh my god...

The Actual Live-Action Akira Script: Worse Than You Think

Every once in a while we'll kick off a movie parody by saying "so we got a hold of the script" and then we make up a bunch of stupid crap, because we're giant man-children. But this time it's for real: Some poor, confused soul saw my column last week, about the ill-advised Akira live-action remake, and they sent me the actual, real script for the film. Again, and in no uncertain terms: I did not write the following script excerpts. They are not parody or fiction.

I have every reason to believe this script is authentic, but I do not have confirmation from the studios. If it is real, this script is the thing that pulled the movie out of Development Hell, where it had been sitting for decades. This is the script that finally got Hollywood to stand up and take notice. This is the script that made studio executives bolt out of their chairs and say "yes, we have to do this!" And it's easy to see why: Nearly every aspect of the film has been altered to fit the most tired, hackneyed, bullshit Hollywood cliches in existence. As low as your opinion of this production might have been, the script proves one thing: Even if you have to dig the damn hole yourself, there is always a downhill.

Before we start, I'd just like to say two things:

One: This script is ostensibly the version just before the infamous whitewashing, where they changed Tetsuo's name to Travis.

Two: I can't believe somebody actually sent me a script. In the big book of "People Who Matter in the Entertainment Industry," how the hell did you land on my name? Did somebody scribble it next to "for a good time call"? Hahaha, how filled with regret are you, right about now? Like on a scale from 1 to 10? Is it a 10?

I hope it's a 10.

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:53:42pm

re: #121 iossarian

A terrifying glimpse into an alternate reality where Kennedy is somehow a bastion of progressivism by dint of not being an out-and-out right-wing lunatic.

Where did I say he's a "bastion of progressivism "?

And if you want/ need justices to be "bastions" on either side, I totally disagree!

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:54:17pm

re: #122 iossarian

Not to mention Roberts lol. The lion of the left!

And again

I don't want ANY of the justices to be "lions" of EITHER side

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Varek Raith Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:55:44pm

re: #123 Kragar

How bad could it.. oh my god...

The Actual Live-Action Akira Script: Worse Than You Think

I read the first paragraph about the basic plot.
I need to blow a planet or two up.

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aagcobb Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:56:23pm

re: #121 iossarian

A terrifying glimpse into an alternate reality where Kennedy is somehow a bastion of progressivism by dint of not being an out-and-out right-wing lunatic.

The reason Kennedy doesn't always vote with the right is he is a libertarian. Thus he supports gay rights and opposed the health care mandate.

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Amory Blaine Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:56:40pm

re: #122 iossarian

Not to mention Roberts lol. The lion of the left!

Image: meow.jpg

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:56:56pm

re: #126 Varek Raith

I read the first paragraph about the basic plot.
I need to blow a planet or two up.

Can you spare Mercury?

I have some hot property there!!

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iossarian Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:57:18pm

re: #125 sattv4u2

And again

I don't want ANY of the justices to be "lions" of EITHER side

Unfortunately human nature dictates that justices are just as politically motivated as anyone else.

I'd rather have people in power who care about human beings than people who care about corporate profits, but that's just me.

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Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:57:48pm

Atheist S.E. Cupp: ‘I Would Never Vote for an Atheist President’

And you know what? I would never vote for an atheist president. Ever… Because I do not think that someone who represents 5 to 10 percent of the population should be representing and thinking that everyone else in the world is crazy, but me.

…

I like that there is a check, OK? That there‘s a person in the office that doesn’t think he’s bigger than the state… I like religion being a check and knowing that my president goes home every night addressing someone above him and not thinking all the power resides right here… Atheists don’t have that.

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BARACK THE VOTE Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:57:54pm

re: #49 Kragar

We must destroy Britain!!!

Yeah!
...
...
Wait, what?

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:58:10pm

re: #130 iossarian

Unfortunately human nature dictates that justices are just as politically motivated as anyone else.

I'd rather have people in power who care about human beings than people who care about corporate profits, but that's just me.

Don't forget the CHILDREN ,, and PUPPIES!!

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Daniel Ballard Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:58:14pm

re: #126 Varek Raith

Hey did you what your tech did for my truck? :-)

3rd pic down.

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Varek Raith Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:58:56pm

re: #134 Daniel Ballard

Hey did you what your tech did for my truck? :-)

3rd pic down.

Warp tunnel.
Neat.
:)

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wrenchwench Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:59:14pm

re: #131 Kragar

Atheist S.E. Cupp: ‘I Would Never Vote for an Atheist President’

She's a freakin' moron.

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Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:59:18pm

re: #131 Kragar

Atheist S.E. Cupp: ‘I Would Never Vote for an Atheist President’

It has been established that S.E. Cupp is indeed a moran.

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iossarian Mon, Jul 9, 2012 2:59:42pm

re: #133 sattv4u2

Don't forget the CHILDREN ,, and PUPPIES!!

Yup. Figures.

Did you ever get around to acknowledging the NRA's role in opposing the regulation of international arms dealing?

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:00:06pm

re: #134 Daniel Ballard

re: #135 Varek Raith

Warp tunnel.
Neat.
:)

I just had a 70's flashback

I thought all those drugs would have been flushed out by now!!!

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Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:00:11pm

re: #131 Kragar

Atheist S.E. Cupp: ‘I Would Never Vote for an Atheist President’

Guess that would include Jews too according to her "logic."

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wrenchwench Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:00:16pm

re: #137 Gus

It has been established that S.E. Cupp is indeed a moran.

My 'mind reader' lacks spellcheck.

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Randall Gross Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:00:31pm

re: #118 sattv4u2

I dunno

You've done pretty well with Roberts and Kennedy over the years

Actually the only thing that keeps the left winning these cases is that the right is crafting wingnut grandstanding legislation. If they crafted it slightly better and toned it down a bit they would roll over the left with this court. It's crappy wingnut legislation & challenges that's failing, not the judges.

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:00:34pm

re: #138 iossarian

Yup. Figures.

Did you ever get around to acknowledging the NRA's role in opposing the regulation of international arms dealing?

I'm still waiting for the drones to be unleashed on them

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Varek Raith Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:00:40pm

re: #131 Kragar

Atheist S.E. Cupp: ‘I Would Never Vote for an Atheist President’

Hmmm.
Does she apply the same to other minorities?
Jews?
Muslims? (DUH!)
Creationists?

145

Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:00:41pm

She's as much an atheist as 2 drunk frat chicks making out at a college party are lesbians.

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dragonfire1981 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:01:11pm

re: #54 Varek Raith

Romney Campaign’s Favored News Source Pushes Conspiracy That President Obama Was Secret CIA Agent In Pakistan

You can't make this shit up.

Obligatory:

Youtube Video

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Daniel Ballard Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:01:18pm

re: #125 sattv4u2

Well said. The Justices have less partisan influence than any congressman, senator or President. Far too much criticism of the Supreme Court can easily be written off as sour grapes. No wonder they tried for decades to avoid a decision on the 2nd. It took a truly egregious violation to make it.

148

Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:01:18pm

re: #145 Kragar

She's as much an atheist as 2 drunk frat chicks making out at a college party are lesbians.

I which I'd rather watch.

149

dragonfire1981 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:01:52pm

re: #106 Lidane

I want to like it because I like Karl Urban as an actor despite some questionable choices on his part. I just can't help but have a bad feeling about how it's going to do in theaters.

Could be potential future cult classic though.

150

wrenchwench Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:02:43pm

re: #142 Randall Gross

Actually the only thing that keeps the left winning these cases is that the right is crafting wingnut grandstanding legislation. If they crafted it slightly better and toned it down a bit they would roll over the left with this court. It's crappy wingnut legislation & challenges that's failing, not the judges.

But Kris Kobach makes more money that way!

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aagcobb Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:02:46pm

re: #142 Randall Gross

Actually the only thing that keeps the left winning these cases is that the right is crafting wingnut grandstanding legislation. If they crafted it slightly better and toned it down a bit they would roll over the left with this court. It's crappy wingnut legislation & challenges that's failing, not the judges.

And that works for the Right, because then they can get their base all outraged again about "activist judges."

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iossarian Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:03:28pm

re: #143 sattv4u2

No

I'm still waiting for the drones to be unleashed on them

Tiresome. Do you deny the factuality of the following news articles?

[Link: globalsolutions.org...]

[Link: thehill.com...]

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:03:54pm

re: #149 dragonfire1981

Could be potential future cult classic though.

If you can't get Ed Wood to produce it, I ain't watchin it!!

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dragonfire1981 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:04:06pm

re: #126 Varek Raith

I read the first paragraph about the basic plot.
I need to blow a planet or two up.

I've got just what you need.

155

iossarian Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:05:09pm

re: #147 Daniel Ballard

Well said. The Justices have less partisan influence than any congressman, senator or President. Far too much criticism of the Supreme Court can easily be written off as sour grapes. No wonder they tried for decades to avoid a decision on the 2nd. It took a truly egregious violation to make it.

Why didn't the justice system just throw out all the cases brought against the healthcare act? The vast majority of constitutional scholars, across the political spectrum, agreed that the law was constitutional.

Why did we have to have the whole showdown?

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Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:05:52pm

re: #153 sattv4u2

If you can't get Ed Wood to produce it, I ain't watchin it!!

//

How about Hal Needham?

The greatest use of greenscreen technology ever made.

Youtube Video

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:06:02pm

re: #152 iossarian

Tiresome. Do you deny the factuality of the following news articles?

[Link: globalsolutions.org...]

[Link: thehill.com...]

Lobbyists doing what lobbyists do

Oh My!
You don't like it, blame your (universal) congressman that accepts the lobbyists money/ gifts

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Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:06:25pm

re: #131 Kragar

Atheist S.E. Cupp: ‘I Would Never Vote for an Atheist President’

Oh yeah. Cupp said,

And you know what? I would never vote for an atheist president. Ever… Because I do not think that someone who represents 5 to 10 percent of the population should be representing and thinking that everyone else in the world is crazy, but me.

Guess she won't be voting for Mitt Romney. As a Mormon, his religion represents 1.9 percent of the US population.

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iossarian Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:06:31pm

re: #157 sattv4u2

Lobbyists doing what lobbyists do

Oh My!
You don't like it, blame your (universal) congressman that accepts the lobbyists money/ gifts

So you accept that the NRA opposes international arms control treaties, via its lobbying efforts.

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:06:46pm

re: #156 Kragar

How about Hal Needham?

The greatest use of greenscreen technology ever made.

[Embedded content]

A close second to Ed!

Cheesy,,, it's what cult classics are!!

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Varek Raith Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:08:18pm

re: #156 Kragar

How about Hal Needham?

The greatest use of greenscreen technology ever made.

[Embedded content]

0:35
Back tire isn't spinning.
:P

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:08:38pm

re: #159 iossarian

So you accept that the NRA opposes international arms control treaties, via its lobbying efforts.

From your article

"Any international Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) that in any way, shape or form affects the constitutional rights of American gun owners is unacceptable,” Chris Cox, execuctive director of the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action,"

I accept that is what they believe

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Varek Raith Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:08:40pm

re: #158 Gus

Oh yeah. Cupp said,

Guess she won't be voting for Mitt Romney. As a Mormon, his religion represents 1.9 percent of the US population.

Lol.

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Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:09:16pm

re: #160 sattv4u2

A close second to Ed!

Cheesy,,, it's what cult classics are!!

And how can I forget the touching Skydiving love scene...

Youtube Video

Complete with the hero's rainbow parachute

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:09:32pm

re: #161 Varek Raith

0:35
Back tire isn't spinning.
:P

I prefer the cheesy porn mustache at :10

166

Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:10:18pm

re: #165 sattv4u2

I prefer the cheesy porn mustache at :10

The turquoise headband really accentuates his hair.

167

iossarian Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:10:20pm

re: #162 sattv4u2

From your article

"Any international Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) that in any way, shape or form affects the constitutional rights of American gun owners is unacceptable,” Chris Cox, execuctive director of the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action,"

I accept that is what they believe

So you accept that the NRA opposes the arms trade treaty. The treaty which seeks to regulate international arms trade, to prevent people like Viktor Bout from selling guns to warlords in central Africa.

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Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:10:31pm

re: #163 Varek Raith

Lol.

I had one of those "wait a minute" moments. She's such a dork.

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Varek Raith Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:10:40pm

re: #165 sattv4u2

I prefer the cheesy porn mustache at :10

Image: MV5BMjA4MTMzMzYyOF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTQ5NzEyMQ@@._V1._SX260_SY475_.jpg

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Daniel Ballard Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:10:46pm

re: #155 iossarian

First, I'll admit you and I disagree here.
Your answer is in their decision, which I respect. I happen to think it reasonably clear that mandates are a power left to the states. And withheld from the Federal gov. Of course the power to tax is far more clear in the affirmative. The commerce clause (too broad IMO, decisions I disagree with but respect) has muddied the legal waters on the mandate AFAIK.

To me we got the best possible decision. But we likely disagree there too.

I can think of better ways to get it done. Like an all ages medicare buy in option. But the powers certainly don't ask me about anything. So that's moot apart from trying to project my wishes on the matter.

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:12:44pm

re: #167 iossarian

So you accept that the NRA opposes the arms trade treaty. The treaty which seeks to regulate international arms trade, to prevent people like Viktor Bout from selling guns to warlords in central Africa.

Do you really think if the NRA didn't have that position on it is going to STOP people like Viktor Bout from selling guns to warlords in central Africa?

Really???

Do you really think if the treaty IS signed it's going to stop people like Viktor Bout from selling guns to warlords in central Africa??

Really??

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Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:12:49pm

NRA isn't always just speaking for gun owners. The other aspect of the NRA is to lobby for gun manufacturers and their interests which includes international sales. Any obstacle to those sales such as arms treaties obviously would have an affect on profits/revenue.

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Amory Blaine Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:13:18pm

LEGO Portal Gun

Youtube Video

BEHOLD!!

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:13:29pm

re: #169 Varek Raith

Image: MV5BMjA4MTMzMzYyOF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTQ5NzEyMQ@@._V1._SX260_SY475_.jpg

The requested content cannot be loaded.
Please try again later.

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iossarian Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:13:55pm

re: #170 Daniel Ballard

I'm not really disagreeing with you on the outcome, more with your assertion that the justices (both the SC and more generally the justice system) don't wield partisan political power.

I think their partisan influence is, in fact, substantial. In my own field Republican-appointed justices have led to the virtual elimination of affirmative action. I think you can make a strong argument that their efforts have met with greater success than attempts to accomplish the same through legislative means.

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Varek Raith Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:14:55pm

re: #174 sattv4u2

The requested content cannot be loaded.
Please try again later.

:(

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

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Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:15:00pm

.@DRUDGE pushes conspiracy theory that Obama was a secret CIA agent in Pakistan thkpr.gs/OS6Fax #embarassing
— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) July 9, 2012

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:15:14pm

Why am I going to grill outdoors in 95 + degree heat??

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Kronocide Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:15:16pm

re: #40 freetoken

Rush Smears NY Muslims: We're Letting "The People Who Participated In That Destruction" On 9-11 "Build A Mosque There"

Yup, that what he said. Go listen to the recording.

Wait... he was just joking, just poking fun at liberals...?

Nope, prolly not.

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:15:31pm

re: #176 Varek Raith

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

Better Much

Tanks

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iossarian Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:16:02pm

re: #171 sattv4u2

Do you really think if the NRA didn't have that position on it is going to STOP people like Viktor Bout from selling guns to warlords in central Africa?

Really???

Do you really think if the treaty IS signed it's going to stop people like Viktor Bout from selling guns to warlords in central Africa??

Really??

So you do accept it. And now you move on to the second stage, whereby you try to minimize the nature of the NRA's opposition to the treaty.

Of course, the treaty isn't perfect, and of course there will always be people trying to work against the system. But the fact is that the treaty is designed to reduce the flow of weapons to places like Sudan, DRC etc. And the NRA opposes it.

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goddamnedfrank Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:16:27pm

re: #174 sattv4u2

The requested content cannot be loaded.
Please try again later.

:(

Whenever that happens try opening the link in a new tab or page.

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Amory Blaine Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:16:47pm

re: #180 sattv4u2

HAHAHA!!! Love the unitard and headband combo.

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:16:57pm

re: #182 goddamnedfrank

Whenever that happens try opening the link in a new tab or page.

Copy the link then open a new tab?

Thanks

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Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:17:15pm

re: #176 Varek Raith

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

Men should not have visible camel toe.

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BenghaziHoops Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:17:16pm

It's Monday Afternoon and time for guitar practice.. One or two hours every week.. It's the law.
Anyway..The amps are humming the board is on pause ready to shake the joint and send Winston under the bed.
I wanted to share this..I've been working on a wicked lead and words for a punk style backing track.. I'd like to mix it before August.. I really love the words I wrote.. Here is the Bridge..What do you think?

I'm over the Edge
Girl I'm fading away
There is nothing more I can do
There is nothing more I can say
I'm over the edge
Baby I'm Falling away
There is no more love I can give
There is no more love to save
I'm over the edge
I'll Falling away..

Youtube Video

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:17:38pm

re: #183 Amory Blaine

HAHAHA!!! Love the unitard and headband combo.

Thats his Stayin' Alive attire!!

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iossarian Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:18:34pm

re: #171 sattv4u2

Do you really think if the NRA didn't have that position on it is going to STOP people like Viktor Bout from selling guns to warlords in central Africa?

Really???

Do you really think if the treaty IS signed it's going to stop people like Viktor Bout from selling guns to warlords in central Africa??

Really??

By the way, for such an apparently ineffectual stance by the NRA, you went a long way to avoid saying that you accepted it existed.

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Daniel Ballard Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:19:25pm

re: #172 Gus

I'd like to see language that set's aside any conflict with our second amendment. Take the wind from the wingnut sails. If/when the UN has a treaty that seemed by some reads to impact our 1st amendment I think we would see a more broad reaction. The 2nd is easily the least popular of the early amendments. Easily the least supported outside us gun owners and right leaners.

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:20:01pm

re: #188 iossarian

By the way, for such an apparently ineffectual stance by the NRA, you went a long way to avoid saying that you accepted it existed.

waytomissthepoint

Effectual,, INeffectual

It matters not one wit

As you acknowledged, the treaty will do little, if anything, to stop the trafficking

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Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:20:37pm

re: #183 Amory Blaine

HAHAHA!!! Love the unitard and headband combo.

And that was the field uniform. Their dress uniform was a shiny navy blue jump suit with bell bottoms with a powder blue ascot.

Image: Megaforce+6.jpg

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BARACK THE VOTE Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:20:52pm

re: #186 Digital Display

It's Monday Afternoon and time for guitar practice.. One or two hours every week.. It's the law.
Anyway..The amps are humming the board is on pause ready to shake the joint and send Winston under the bed.
I wanted to share this..I've been working on a wicked lead and words for a punk style backing track.. I'd like to mix it before August.. I really love the words I wrote.. Here is the Bridge..What do you think?

I'm over the Edge
Girl I'm fading away
There is nothing more I can do
There is nothing more I can say
I'm over the edge
Baby I'm Falling away
There is no more love I can give
There is no more love to save
I'm over the edge
I'll Falling away..

[Embedded content]

Hoops, we liked it! I didn't know you played guitar!

(Have you checked your email yet?! Nudge, nudge...)

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iossarian Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:21:14pm

re: #190 sattv4u2

waytomissthepoint

Effectual,, INeffectual

It matters not one wit

As you acknowledged, the treaty will do little, if anything, to stop the trafficking

I acknowledged no such thing. A treaty is obviously far better than no treaty. As evidenced by the fact that the NRA is in opposition - they know very well that this hurts their industry allies.

All I was saying was that, if you really think that the treaty is ineffectual, then why deny that the NRA opposes it?

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Daniel Ballard Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:21:28pm

re: #178 sattv4u2

Why am I going to grill outdoors in 95 + degree heat??

Hey fire up an oven and you get 95 inside.... Looks like the right call to me. Explains that cold brew in hand while you are at it too.

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Amory Blaine Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:21:47pm

re: #191 Kragar

And that was the field uniform. Their dress uniform was a shiny navy blue jump suit with bell bottoms with a powder blue ascot.

Image: Megaforce+6.jpg

Ooooohh. An ascot would really round it out.

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iossarian Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:22:01pm

re: #189 Daniel Ballard

I'd like to see language that set's aside any conflict with our second amendment.

Come on. International arms treaties prevent Joe Buck in Texas from buying a shotgun?

Anyway, time marches on - got to go...

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Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:22:04pm

re: #187 sattv4u2

Thats his Stayin' Alive attire!!

Hey You!

Image: megaforce5.jpg

You know what?

Image: mfthumb2.jpg

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BARACK THE VOTE Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:22:42pm

re: #196 iossarian

Come on. International arms treaties prevent Joe Buck in Texas from buying a shotgun?

Anyway, time marches on - got to go...

See you later!

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Varek Raith Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:22:46pm

re: #191 Kragar

And that was the field uniform. Their dress uniform was a shiny navy blue jump suit with bell bottoms with a powder blue ascot.

Image: Megaforce+6.jpg

*Shudders*

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Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:23:29pm

re: #199 Varek Raith

*Shudders*

DEPLOY THE WIDE STANCE!!!

Image: Megaforce.jpg

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:23:45pm

re: #193 iossarian

then why deny that the NRA opposes it?

I did that,,, where?
I stated it matters not one wit whether they do or don't because AS YOU STATED of course there will always be people trying to work against the system

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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:24:23pm

And I'm GONE!!!

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Kronocide Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:24:50pm

Alleged Atheist SE Cupp would not vote for an atheist because LOL Whut?

So much hashtag fodder, so little time.

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darthstar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:25:07pm

This my friends is why Al Sharpton is killing CNN in the ratings. twitpic.com/a5v7eq
— Andrew Kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) July 9, 2012

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Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:25:39pm

Wide stance did not deploy! Attempting to redeploy!

Image: Megaforce.jpg

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darthstar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:26:00pm

Ooh...I like the addition of Spy mode. Nice feature, Charles.

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Varek Raith Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:26:34pm

re: #204 darthstar

[Embedded content]

That's funny.

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darthstar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:26:42pm

re: #204 darthstar

The twit-pic is of the "Great Mittsby"...funny shit.

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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:26:49pm

re: #186 Digital Display

I think you're a sweetie.
So there!

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darthstar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:27:29pm

@Romney's campaign seems to be as much about rubbing against money as Palin's VP run was about trying on fancy clothes. #p2 @VanityFair
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) July 9, 2012

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Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:29:30pm

Gov. Chris Christie: The War On Drugs ‘Has Been A Failure’

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Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:29:33pm

re: #204 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Reminds of something one would see on the old Glenn Beck show on Fox News.

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jaunte Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:30:05pm

Pre-existing Condition

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Mattand Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:30:57pm

re: #131 Kragar

Atheist S.E. Cupp: ‘I Would Never Vote for an Atheist President’

I had never heard of this woman until that MSNBC show came on a few weeks ago.

Seriously; what the fuck? I'm getting a little sick of this woman's "I'm an atheist, but I hate atheism" shtick. If you're an atheist who thinks we need religion as a calming check on atheism, you ain't an atheist.

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CuriousLurker Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:31:24pm

re: #206 darthstar

Ooh...I like the addition of Spy mode. Nice feature, Charles.

Woohoo, we can ding in Spy mode now! Thanks, Charles. *happy dance*

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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:32:25pm

re: #205 Kragar

Wide stance did not deploy! Attempting to redeploy!

Image: Megaforce.jpg

Why did Hollywood think that in the future everyone would be wearing skin-tight metallic jumpsuits?

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Killgore Trout Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:32:49pm

update: Terror charges for three Birmingham men

Mr Uddin, Mr Khan and Mr Hasseen were charged under the Terrorism Act 2006, accused of preparing for an act or acts of terrorism with the intention of committing such acts.

They are accused of manufacturing an improvised explosive device, as well as acquiring firearms and other weapons, and vehicles connected with their alleged plans.

Four other men detained in connection to the investigation remain in custody.

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goddamnedfrank Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:33:22pm

re: #214 Mattand

I had never heard of this woman until that MSNBC show came on a few weeks ago.

Seriously; what the fuck? I'm getting a little sick of this woman's "I'm an atheist, but I hate atheism" shtick. If you're an atheist who thinks we need religion as a calming check on atheism, you ain't an atheist.

Here she is getting goosed by Joe the Plumber next to a dead black bear.

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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:33:25pm

re: #214 Mattand

I had never heard of this woman until that MSNBC show came on a few weeks ago.

Seriously; what the fuck? I'm getting a little sick of this woman's "I'm an atheist, but I hate atheism" shtick. If you're an atheist who thinks we need religion as a calming check on atheism, you ain't an atheist.

She's not really an atheist. She's pretending to be one so that she can have a Jesus moment in the media.

220

Amory Blaine Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:34:08pm

re: #216 Learned Mother of Zion

Why did Hollywood think that in the future everyone would be wearing skin-tight metallic jumpsuits?

Wishful thinking?

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BenghaziHoops Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:35:56pm

re: #192 Millicent Islam

Hoops, we liked it! I didn't know you played guitar!

(Have you checked your email yet?! Nudge, nudge...)

Hi Ice..I have been playing music since I was 12. I'm surprised I haven't sent you a CD yet.. I'm not shy.. LOL
I have always been an average player that sits around the campfire playing songs everybody can sing to.
But I love to write words..I suck but who cares..
Got your email..Look forward to chatting with you this week.

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Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:36:11pm

Seasonal firefighters seek health care coverage on9news.tv/PHYKiH #9NEWS
— 9NEWS Denver (@9NEWS) July 9, 2012

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Targetpractice Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:36:24pm

re: #216 Learned Mother of Zion

Why did Hollywood think that in the future everyone would be wearing skin-tight metallic jumpsuits?

Could be worse, we could all be wearing togas.

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BARACK THE VOTE Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:36:52pm

re: #221 Digital Display

Hi Ice..I have been playing music since I was 12. I'm surprised I haven't sent you a CD yet.. I'm not shy.. LOL
I have always been an average player that sits around the campfire playing songs everybody can sing to.
But I love to write words..I suck but who cares..
Got your email..Look forward to chatting with you this week.

Send us a CD! We'd love it!

225

Targetpractice Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:37:08pm

re: #222 Gus

[Embedded content]

Socialist parasites! What have they done to deserve my hard-earned money!? If they want healthcare, they can pay for it!

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Kragar Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:37:22pm

re: #222 Gus

[Embedded content]

Firefighting is a calling, like teaching or law enforcement. If they want healthcare, they should go and get a real job!
///

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Amory Blaine Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:39:21pm

re: #223 Targetpractice

Could be worse, we could all be wearing togas.

No way!! Togas would be way better.

228

Daniel Ballard Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:42:29pm

re: #196 iossarian

Come on. International arms treaties prevent Joe Buck in Texas from buying a shotgun?

Anyway, time marches on - got to go...

I hope ya see this later.

I don't really expect that. I'll say it like this- Signing treaties that include obligations that conflict with any part of the bill of rights at a minimum or the constitution at all is risky at best. Hyperbole aside that is...

229

wrenchwench Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:45:10pm

Lance Armstrong gets a hasty smackdown.

Within seven hours of Lance Armstrong filing a lawsuit that sought to block the United States Anti-Doping Agency from punishing him for alleged doping violations, a federal judge in Austin, Tex., struck down the complaint, dealing Armstrong a swift and smarting blow in his own hometown.

Sam Sparks, of United States District Court, chastised Armstrong’s lawyers for submitting an 80-plus page complaint filled with allegations that “were totally irrelevant to Armstrong’s claims.” Sparks said the court was left to presume that the lengthy list of allegations “were included solely to increase media coverage of this case, and to incite public opinion against” the antidoping agency and Travis Tygart, the agency’s chief executive who is also named as a defendant.

“This Court is not inclined to indulge Amstrong’s desire for publicity, self-aggrandizement or vilification of Defendants, by sifting through eighty mostly unnecessary pages in search of the few kernels of factual material relevant to his claims,” Sparks said.

The judge added that Armstrong could refile his case within 20 days, but only if he limits his pleadings to information that is legally relevant to his case.

[...]

230

Gus Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:46:40pm

Conservative Radio CEO Defends Anti-Asian Comments By Blaming "Political Left"

231

wrenchwench Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:46:55pm

And there's my cue to follow Lawhawk's tweets....

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Kronocide Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:47:10pm

bulged disc, going to the chiro for my second crack session today

Laying on my ass sucks.

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wrenchwench Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:48:12pm

re: #232 Kronocide

bulged disc, going to the chiro for my second crack session today

Laying on my ass sucks.

I hear it's cracked also....

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researchok Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:48:13pm

re: #222 Gus

Loaded topic.

See this, Do veterans have a right to free health care for life?

....Clearly, these folks feel betrayed, so The Rumor Doctor set out to see if there is any truth to this belief that troops and veterans are entitled to free health care for life.

"The short answer is no," said Peter Graves, a spokesman for the assistant defense secretary for health affairs. "Health care benefits for military members, retirees, and their families are, and have always been, as provided by law, and the law has never promised free health care for life."

The law provides free medical care for servicemembers on active duty and their families, Graves said in an email.

Congressional Research Service, which provides analysis for Congress, issued a 2003 report that found veterans were not entitled to free medical care for life, even though they may have been promised exactly that by their recruiters.

Since 1956, veterans and their families can be treated at military medical facilities "subject to the availability of space and facilities and the capabilities of the medical and dental staff," the report found.

"They have no right to military health care and the military services have total discretion in when and under what circumstances retirees and their dependents will get care in military treatment facilities," the report said.

Several veterans have taken their claims to court, alleging that recruiters promised them free medical care, but one court ruled that such promises did not constitute a contract, the report said.

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Decatur Deb Mon, Jul 9, 2012 4:02:17pm

re: #234 researchok

Loaded topic.

See this, Do veterans have a right to free health care for life?

Yup, that was settled as a legal issue a decade ago, and the active duty soldiers know it. The may be treated (and usually are, or included in the TriCare insurance program). They never really had the legal right. For the record, Fed employees retired with the 'gold-plated' health insurance are also bumped into applicable Medicare parts on reaching 65.

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Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate Mon, Jul 9, 2012 4:20:45pm

re: #230 Gus

HankWilliams Jr., to Rush Limbaugh, to Chris Collins

These are the first three "Republican" or "Right Wing" public figures that pop up in his head huh? LOL.

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Egregious Philbin Mon, Jul 9, 2012 6:40:30pm

As usual, I have to apologize for my state.

Trust me, GED Jan will not get her way. No one takes Leatherface seriously any more.

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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 9, 2012 6:44:48pm

re: #237 Egregious Philbin

As usual, I have to apologize for my state.

Trust me, GED Jan will not get her way. No one takes Leatherface seriously any more.

Downding for calling Gov. Brewer 'Leatherface'. This is not in defense of her actions, but rather because I find personal attacks based on a woman's looks offensive.

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Egregious Philbin Mon, Jul 9, 2012 6:51:05pm

re: #238 Dark_Falcon

I've met her a few times, that is the nice thing I can say about her. She got out of a DWI, she got favors for her son Ron, who is a dangerously SMI person who has attacked women (not his fault he is SMI, but, he shouldn't be out on the streets).

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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 9, 2012 6:57:05pm

re: #239 Egregious Philbin

I've met her a few times, that is the nice thing I can say about her. She got out of a DWI, she got favors for her son Ron, who is a dangerously SMI person who has attacked women (not his fault he is SMI, but, he shouldn't be out on the streets).

SMI?

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Egregious Philbin Mon, Jul 9, 2012 6:58:56pm

Severely Mentally Ill.

He is dangerous, I've met him several times...

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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jul 9, 2012 7:08:25pm

re: #241 Egregious Philbin

Severely Mentally Ill.

He is dangerous, I've met him several times...

OK, now I understand. I updinged this comment to compensate for the earlier downding.

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Stephen T. Mon, Jul 9, 2012 7:54:25pm

re: #107 sattv4u2

The Wizard of Oz

Upon meeting Oz, the lion eats him!

There is a prequal coming out. I don't know if I'm happy about this or depressed.

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labman57 Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:00:48am

Governor Palpatine is the Orly Taitz of the tea party clan -- obsessed to the extreme, driven by her personal demons, unwilling to admit when she's wrong, and irrationally eager to waste taxpayers' money in her "Ahab vs. the white whale" quest.

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danhenry1 Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:42:29pm

Four of the largest Defense contractors are now looking at their liabilities in having facilities in Arizona. Doesn't look good for 100,000's of jobs.
We'll take them. NM, CO, Fl even

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