New Obama Campaign Ad: Mitt Romney Out of Context
“They better vote for the other guy”
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The Obama campaign brilliantly turns the tables on Mendacious Mitt in their new web advertisement.
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Obdicut Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:27:02am |
Kinda meta. Very playful. And a good demonstration.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:27:41am |
Yow, you could hear that slap coming a mile away.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:28:58am |
Can't wait to hear the wingnuts bitch about the editing.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:30:27am |
Burnt Orange Report published a picture of a chair hanging from a tree in front of a house in Austin, Texas. In a dark twist on Clint Eastwood’s empty chair meme, it appears the resident, Bud Johnson, lynched the chair as an effigy of President Obama. When asked about the unnerving racist display, Johnson, a Republican, responded, “I don’t really give a damn whether it disturbs you or not. You can take [your concerns] and go straight to hell and take Obama with you. I don’t give a shit. If you don’t like it, don’t come down my street.” Another chair was lynched last week in Virginia.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:30:40am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:30:41am |
re: #6 47 turn it up to 11
How *are* they gonna respond to this?
Tears and tantrums, it's the wingnut way.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:31:04am |
It really is refreshing to see the Democrats running with confidence and determination. The Republicans have no idea what to make of it.
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MikeTheModerateDemocrat Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:31:10am |
I'm a little confused as to the timing of this. Arguably Romney's most egregious abuse in this area was pulling "If we talk about the economy we will lose" out of Obama's mouth (when he was merely quoting McCain), and that was what, six months ago?
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MikeTheModerateDemocrat Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:32:01am |
re: #10 Targetpractice
It really is refreshing to see the Democrats running with confidence and determination. The Republicans have no idea what to make of it.
Back in the 1980s and early 90s it would have been unfathomable,
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:32:15am |
re: #11 MikeTheModerateDemocrat
I'm a little confused as to the timing of this. Arguably Romney's most egregious abuse in this area was pulling "If we talk about the economy we will lose" out of Obama's mouth (when he was merely quoting McCain).
That was just the first offense. The second was "You didn't build that." Now, he's trying it with "I believe in redistribution." The Romney campaign has been fighting an opponent that didn't exist for months.
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Obdicut Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:32:47am |
re: #11 MikeTheModerateDemocrat
It's a jab back at the 'redistribution' meme that the GOP are trying right now. I think it's good timing because Romney's 47% remarks sound terrible in full context, while Obama's 'redistribution' comments sound fine in context.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:33:02am |
re: #13 Targetpractice
That was just the first offense. The second was "You didn't build that." Now, he's trying it with "I believe in redistribution." The Romney campaign has been fighting an opponent that didn't exist for months.
A campaign running on half-truths appears to be totally half-ass.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:34:41am |
Watch Romney on cue complain about this ad.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:36:42am |
Fox And Friends: Obama Spurns Netanyahu For Pirate (He Didn’t)
“TOO BUSY FOR ISRAEL / PRESIDENT FINDS TIME FOR PIRATE, LETTERMAN,” Fox and Friends’ screen read Thursday. “This pirate got a sit-down in the Oval Office yesterday,” Fox and Friends co-host Brian Kilmeade said on-air. “So much for the Middle East peace. The White House doesn’t even have time to meet with Israel, but the president got a private sit-down with a pirate yesterday in the Oval Office. Sorry, Bibi,” Steeve Doocy added.
One small problem: the photo was taken in May 2009 for use as a joke during the White House Correspondents’ dinner.
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Gus Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:37:39am |
If Obama wins both Ohio and Virginia, the election is OHVA— Nate Silver (@fivethirtyeight) September 20, 2012
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:38:42am |
re: #18 Kragar
Fox And Friends: Obama Spurns Netanyahu For Pirate (He Didn’t)
FOX pwned by Talk Like a Pirate Day. Comes from searching for anti-Obama material without any cultural awareness or principles.
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simoom Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:38:57am |
The DNC web ad that just consists of media talking heads discussing Romney's remarks is pretty good too:
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MikeTheModerateDemocrat Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:38:58am |
re: #14 Obdicut
True, but the economy quote was the only one out of the three that was an outright lie. That was the day that I went from being not crazy about Romney to hating and despising him.
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erik_t Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:39:30am |
re: #17 HappyWarrior
Watch Romney on cue complain about this ad.
His chief campaign tool is lying and whining... whining and lying... His two campaign tools are lying and whining... and misquoting... His three campaign tools are lying, whining, misquoting and an almost fanatical devotion to Grover Norquist... Amongst his campaign tools are such elements as lying, whining.... He'll try again in 2016.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:40:21am |
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b_sharp Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:40:46am |
This floundering Romney campaign isn't all Romney, there are a number of people contributing. I think the general incompetence of the campaign is an excellent indicator of Romney's inability to recognize and hire competent people.
How the heck did Bain succeed, and how did he turn the Olympics around?
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:41:07am |
re: #25 erik_t
His chief campaign tool is lying and whining... whining and lying... His two campaign tools are lying and whining... and misquoting... His three campaign tools are lying, whining, misquoting and an almost fanatical devotion to Grover Norquist... Amongst his campaign tools are such elements as lying, whining.... He'll try again in 2016.
Do you really think he'll run again in 2016? In my life time, I've never seen someone nominated by their party for president and then run again. I think if Romney ran again in 2016, he'd lose big in the primaries.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:41:21am |
re: #19 Gus
[Embedded content]
Heh, John Marshall just posted a story from a TPM reader, and it really brightened my afternoon:
If you don't want to read the whole thing, the gist is that if the Democrats not only keep the White House and Senate, but make 18-20 seats in the House or better, then the legislative picture post-Election is gonna be serious progress despite Tea Party opposition. When Boehner has only a 10-15 seat margin in any vote, and a handful of Republicans crossing the aisle could win it for the Democrats, then compromise will very likely win the day.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:41:47am |
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:42:04am |
re: #27 reflections of a redneck
This floundering Romney campaign isn't all Romney, there are a number of people contributing. I think the general incompetence of the campaign is an excellent indicator of Romney's inability to recognize and hire competent people.
How the heck did Bain succeed, and how did he turn the Olympics around?
Bain did not deal with public scrutiny. The Olympics had government funding.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:42:19am |
re: #26 Kragar
The GOP doesn't do 2nd chances.
Well yes and no. They give you a second chance if you fail the first time you run for the nomination e.g. Reagan, Bush I, Dole, McCain, and now Mitt but yeah outside of Nixon in 1968 they haven't given anyone a second run after they've been nominated which is actually understandable.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:42:23am |
re: #27 reflections of a redneck
This floundering Romney campaign isn't all Romney, there are a number of people contributing. I think the general incompetence of the campaign is an excellent indicator of Romney's inability to recognize and hire competent people.
How the heck did Bain succeed, and how did he turn the Olympics around?
From all appearances, Bain succeeded because he was hardly around to do more than accept the paychecks and sign whatever important documents were necessary.
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erik_t Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:42:27am |
re: #28 HappyWarrior
Do you really think he'll run again in 2016? In my life time, I've never seen someone nominated by their party for president and then run again. I think if Romney ran again in 2016, he'd lose big in the primaries.
The Pythoning will continue until morale improves.
(and no, certainly I do not think he will run again in 2016)
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Lidane Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:42:57am |
Gee. Why didn't I think of that?
Rand Paul's solution for lowering health costs: Have patients pay in cash thkpr.gs/SF1j0f— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) September 20, 2012
*facepalm*
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:43:28am |
re: #28 HappyWarrior
Do you really think he'll run again in 2016? In my life time, I've never seen someone nominated by their party for president and then run again. I think if Romney ran again in 2016, he'd lose big in the primaries.
Who will the Dems pick in 2016? Could be Hillary?
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erik_t Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:43:33am |
re: #35 Lidane
Gee. Why didn't I think of that?
Need some doctorin'? Borrow, say, twenty thousand dollars from your parents?
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:43:51am |
re: #29 Targetpractice
Heh, John Marshall just posted a story from a TPM reader, and it really brightened my afternoon:
If you don't want to read the whole thing, the gist is that if the Democrats not only keep the White House and Senate, but make 18-20 seats in the House or better, then the legislative picture post-Election is gonna be serious progress despite Tea Party opposition. When Boehner has only a 10-15 seat margin in any vote, and a handful of Republicans crossing the aisle could win it for the Democrats, then compromise will very likely win the day.
That may make Boehner more easier to work with. Boehner really isn't the problem in the House. It's the Tea Party idiots and Cantor.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:44:04am |
re: #35 Lidane
Gee. Why didn't I think of that?
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*facepalm*
I've lost count of the number of wingnuts who assure me that you can just "shop around" and get doctors to give you a better deal than the insurance companies. Problem of course is that we're not all independently wealthy.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:45:00am |
re: #36 Sheila Brovlofski
Who will the Dems pick in 2016? Could be Hillary?
Too early to tell if you ask me. I expect it to be a contested primary though.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:45:58am |
re: #38 HappyWarrior
That may make Boehner more easier to work with. Boehner really isn't the problem in the House. It's the Tea Party idiots and Cantor.
If the Dems make serious inroads in the House, Boehner's history. The Tea Party won't hesitate to launch a coup to have him replaced.
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jaunte Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:46:35am |
GOP to Jobless Vets: Drop Dead
[Link: www.motherjones.com...]
"President Obama's policies threaten to break faith with our veterans and our military," Romney's campaign literature states. "We can do better."
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:46:42am |
re: #41 Targetpractice
If the Dems make serious inroads in the House, Boehner's history. The Tea Party won't hesitate to launch a coup to have him replaced.
Ah, I hadn't thought of that. Would they replace him with Cantor or someone else?
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:47:24am |
re: #42 jaunte
GOP to Jobless Vets: Drop Dead
[Link: www.motherjones.com...]
Yeah "We can do better", I agree, but Mitt's policies and those that the GOPers in the Senate voted against aren't better.
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:47:47am |
re: #28 HappyWarrior
Do you really think he'll run again in 2016? In my life time, I've never seen someone nominated by their party for president and then run again. I think if Romney ran again in 2016, he'd lose big in the primaries.
The last time the Reps did this was Nixon in 1968 after he'd lost to Kennedy in 1960 - and he actually won the second time. Dems last did it in the 50's, running Adlai Stevenson twice against Eisenhower. Apparently both parties have become less forgiving of electoral failure in recent years.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:48:53am |
re: #42 jaunte
GOP to Jobless Vets: Drop Dead
[Link: www.motherjones.com...]
My support for Romney is currently doing missionary work in France and will be unable to participate in this year's election.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:49:02am |
re: #43 HappyWarrior
Ah, I hadn't thought of that. Would they replace him with Cantor or someone else?
Very likely Cantor, being he's the grand vizier behind the throne. You may remember that, when Boehner was trying to make a deal last year to get out of the debt limit crisis, it was Cantor making the most noise about how any deal wouldn't be accepted if it included tax increases.
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Lidane Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:49:06am |
re: #39 Targetpractice
I've lost count of the number of wingnuts who assure me that you can just "shop around" and get doctors to give you a better deal than the insurance companies. Problem of course is that we're not all independently wealthy.
A single trip to my endocrinologist would run me almost $250 each time. $95 for the visit, and and another $150 to get my blood drawn and for the lab work. And that was with me paying in cash because my student health insurance only covered catastrophic injury.
She made me come in every three months like clockwork until I just couldn't afford it anymore. It's a wonder I saw her as long as I did.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:49:21am |
re: #45 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
The last time the Reps did this was Nixon in 1968 after he'd lost to Kennedy in 1960 - and he actually won the second time. Dems last did it in the 50's, running Adlai Stevenson twice against Eisenhower. Apparently both parties have become less forgiving of electoral failure in recent years.
It's pretty rare actually.Last time before Nixon was Dewey and the last time before Stevenson was Jennings Bryan. Anyhow, can't see Mitt running again because I think even his ego knows that the American people just don't want him if he loses this election and besides I think he'd lose anyhow in the primaries overwhelmingly.
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lawhawk Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:49:51am |
re: #39 Targetpractice
Even the insurance companies are starting to tell people to shop around for doctors/procedures within their own networks, because some doctors/procedures are cheaper at some locations than others.
But that still presupposes that you can afford whatever procedures are in question.
A cancer treatment protocol can run into the tens of thousands of dollars, regardless of whether you're with or without insurance. Most people don't have emergency funds to deal with that kind of financial hit.
A serious car accident with major trauma? Easily tens of thousands of dollars in hospital bills, rehab, etc., and shopping around isn't even a possibility.
Most Americans don't have an emergency fund equal to 6 months salary lying around, let alone 3 months. A medical emergency can quickly run through those amounts in a flash, plus lost income for the affected person, and the spouse/caregiver who has to take time to attend to the other. It's a huge hit financially. I've seen it with friends and family alike - and they're among the luckier ones - they have insurance.
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jaunte Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:50:07am |
re: #44 HappyWarrior
"...chief among the bill's attackers was Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), top Republican on the Senate Banking Committee. "Americans don't trust us," he said. "And why should Americans trust us when we keep using gimmicks and budget sleight of hand to hide more spending and drive the country further into debt?"
Jeff Sessions:
Voted NO on investigating contract awards in Iraq & Afghanistan.
(Nov 2005)
Voted NO on requiring on-budget funding for Iraq, not emergency funding.
(Apr 2005)
Voted NO on investigating contract awards in Iraq & Afghanistan.
(Nov 2005)
Voted NO on requiring on-budget funding for Iraq, not emergency funding.
(Apr 2005)
[Link: www.ontheissues.org...]
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b_sharp Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:50:56am |
re: #24 Gus
Fox and Friends. Too busy for facts.
Fox and Friends. Too busy exercising their confirmation bias, flexing their cognitive dissonance and rubbing down their motivated reasoning for facts.
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:51:15am |
re: #50 HappyWarrior
It's pretty rare actually.Last time before Nixon was Dewey and the last time before Stevenson was Jennings Bryan. Anyhow, can't see Mitt running again because I think even his ego knows that the American people just don't want him if he loses this election and besides I think he'd lose anyhow in the primaries overwhelmingly.
One difference between this year's primaries and the ones in 2016 will be that the voters 4 years from now will already know how bad a general election candidate Romney can be.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:52:25am |
re: #42 jaunte
GOP to Jobless Vets: Drop Dead
[Link: www.motherjones.com...]
Already hearing wingnuts make excuses, though most seem to be sticking to the vague "There must have been something wrong with the bill," while a few are trying to argue that it's good the bill died because the "free market" should make the effort to help those vets and not the government.
Yeah, I'm keep a running list of those who can never say "Support the troops" in my face again without getting read the Riot Act.
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Lidane Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:52:27am |
re: #51 lawhawk
One trip to the ER for a minor injury or illness can easily run anywhere from $4-$6k. Anything more severe and you might as well declare bankruptcy if you don't have insurance or a good enough job to pay the installment plans.
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b_sharp Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:53:47am |
re: #35 Lidane
Gee. Why didn't I think of that?
[Embedded content]
*facepalm*
Where have we heard that before?
"If they'd rather die, then they had better do it and decrease the surplus population."
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Gus Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:53:50am |
re: #56 jaunte
He's an expert on budget sleight of hand.
Typical Bush era double talking asshole. These guys didn't even care about funding the Iraq and Afghanistan wars properly. The no-bid contracts and the BS pulled by companies like Haliburton were the tip of the iceberg. Many things that could still be investigated today but never will be.
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Lidane Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:54:10am |
Schumer: Mainstream Republicans planning resurgence if Obama wins tpm.ly/OJeEn8— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) September 20, 2012
I'll believe that when I see it.
My guess is the opposite will happen. If Mitt Romney loses, the teabaggers and the far right will push harder than ever to get rid of everyone they see as moderate and/or as RINOs.
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BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:54:19am |
re: #58 Lidane
One trip to the ER for a minor injury or illness can easily run anywhere from $4-$6k. Anything more severe and you might as well declare bankruptcy if you don't have insurance or a good enough job to pay the installment plans.
Medical costs are the number one cause of personal bankruptcies in the US.
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b_sharp Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:54:49am |
re: #41 Targetpractice
If the Dems make serious inroads in the House, Boehner's history. The Tea Party won't hesitate to launch a coup to have him replaced.
A chicken coup.
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Gus Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:55:06am |
re: #60 Gus
Typical Bush era double talking asshole. These guys didn't even care about funding the Iraq and Afghanistan wars properly. The no-bid contracts and the BS pulled by companies like Haliburton were the tip of the iceberg. Many things that could still be investigated today but never will be.
[Link: costofwar.com...]
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nines09 Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:55:30am |
re: #57 Targetpractice
Already hearing wingnuts make excuses, though most seem to be sticking to the vague "There must have been something wrong with the bill," while a few are trying to argue that it's good the bill died because the "free market" should make the effort to help those vets and not the government.
Yeah, I'm keep a running list of those who can never say "Support the troops" in my face again without getting read the Riot Act.
"Support The Troops! Just Not With My Tax Dollars!"
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Lidane Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:55:45am |
re: #62 The Left
Medical costs are the number one cause of personal bankruptcies in the US.
I believe it. And that's obscene to me. No one should have to go bankrupt because they get sick. WTF.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:55:45am |
re: #58 Lidane
One trip to the ER for a minor injury or illness can easily run anywhere from $4-$6k. Anything more severe and you might as well declare bankruptcy if you don't have insurance or a good enough job to pay the installment plans.
Went to the ER a few years back, $3500.
Still paying that shit off. Figure in the last 10 years, I've lost about $6-7k on medical expenses. This is with insurance.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:55:51am |
re: #60 Gus
Typical Bush era double talking asshole. These guys didn't even care about funding the Iraq and Afghanistan wars properly. The no-bid contracts and the BS pulled by companies like Haliburton were the tip of the iceberg. Many things that could still be investigated today but never will be.
If there's anything I will never forgive Obama for, it's pulling a Ford-style "Let's put the past behind us" bit when he got into the White House.
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lawhawk Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:56:18am |
re: #58 Lidane
I broke my ankle a while back and the ER visit was covered by insurance minus the copays. Rehab was likewise covered by insurance minus copays. Out of pocket costs were around $1k, but I fortunately was able to offset those costs with a FSA, so the hit wasn't as bad as it could have been. Moreover, I was fortunate that I didn't shred my ankle ligaments (not tendons), which would have required surgery and much more significant costs.
On the plus side, I can now forecast rain 24 hours in advance. /
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:56:38am |
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Kragar Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:56:48am |
re: #70 Gus
Total Cost of Wars Since 2001
$1,374,756,080,596
And Romney promises to spend about the same in the next 4 years.
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BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:57:15am |
re: #67 Lidane
I believe it. And that's obscene to me. No one should have to go bankrupt because they get sick. WTF.
Friends of mine lost everything when their son was in a motorcycle accident. The insurance company decided that facial reconstruction was an elective procedure(s) and wouldn't cover it.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:57:20am |
re: #71 lawhawk
I broke my ankle a while back and the ER visit was covered by insurance minus the copays. Rehab was likewise covered by insurance minus copays. Out of pocket costs were around $1k, but I fortunately was able to offset those costs with a FSA, so the hit wasn't as bad as it could have been. Moreover, I was fortunate that I didn't shred my ankle tendons, which would have required surgery and much more significant costs.
On the plus side, I can now forecast rain 24 hours in advance. /
I broke my ankle 10 years ago and did not go to the ER because I didn't have insurance. I am disabled today. Yay me.
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wrenchwench Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:57:27am |
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erik_t Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:57:45am |
re: #68 Kragar
Went to the ER a few years back, $3500.
Still paying that shit off. Figure in the last 10 years, I've lost about $6-7k on medical expenses. This is with insurance.
I made off with a $9000 visit for $50 out of pocket.
Do you think my job was dozens of times more important than your job (assuming your insurance was employer-provided)? I don't.
What a broke-ass system.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:58:16am |
re: #61 Lidane
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I'll believe that when I see it.
My guess is the opposite will happen. If Mitt Romney loses, the teabaggers and the far right will push harder than ever to get rid of everyone they see as moderate and/or as RINOs.
Me too. And McConnell seems like his feet are planted in the TP crazy camp. Saw that he hired Ron Paul's campaign manager to help direct his re-election campaign in 2014. I think the only way they'll start to regain sanity is if they do a lot of introspection or if Obama really beats Romney bad.
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A Mom Anon Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:58:22am |
My wingnut neighbor is back at it again. sigh. The one who's upset that Catholics have to pay for abortions and contraception in their healthcare coverage(she's mixing up the church with Catholic employers,she really thinks that Obama is forcing everyone in the church to buy this insurance) This time she's pissed because her daughter's athletic scholarship doesn't cover the full cost of college. She's mad because her kid has this scholarship and so she can't get a government subsidized loan to cover the rest. She then goes on to call the President a liar about making college affordable. And she's pissed because there may be taxes she has to pay on the scholarship itself.
She's doing all this on Facebook where her daughter,who is in an out of state school can see it. I've known this kid since she was 3,she's an awesome young woman and I can bet you she now feels like crap because she feels like she's burdening her parents. She and her husband make a decent salary,he works for a defense contractor,she works as an admin for a chain of nursing homes. And so now she's bitching she's being"punished for being successful".
I want to tell her she could have an autistic kid who will never have that sort of college opportunity,that there are families like mine that are living on half of what they made before summer 2008 when my husband's job was downsized,that our retirement went up in a puff of smoke when the economy imploded,but I'm not going to war with my neighbors. I just hate what the misinformation and divisive politics has done to people who used to be smart and sane. WTF? I'm waiting for the anti liberal stuff to start,then I may go full metal asshole on her,but for now,I'm venting...
///rant over.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:59:23am |
DERPTY DERP
Hardee's CEO: Obamacare increasing insurance costs 150%. Repeal this monstrosity in its entirety. newsmax.com/Ronald%2520Kes...— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) September 20, 2012
How much does the CEO of Hardee's make and how much (little) are the workers paid?
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erik_t Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:59:27am |
re: #78 HappyWarrior
Me too. And McConnell seems like his feet are planted in the TP crazy camp. Saw that he hired Ron Paul's campaign manager to help direct his re-election campaign in 2014. I think the only way they'll start to regain sanity is if they do a lot of introspection or if Obama really beats Romney bad.
I don't think McConnell is a True Believer, particularly. I think that, like Romney, he's just seeking to do what it takes to get (re)elected.
Unlike Romney, he's not the World's Most Stunningly Incompetent Politician.
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nines09 Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:00:26am |
May no one who has a loved one read the words "beyond reasonable and customary" in the bill, or the real kick in the groin; "Not covered; Experimental." Try to buy insurance on your own when you are late 50's and have had some leaks and dents. That will wake you up.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:00:48am |
re: #80 Sheila Brovlofski
DERPTY DERP
[Embedded content]
How much does the CEO of Hardee's make and how much (little) are the workers paid?
Yeah this is like when the owner of Papa Johns bitched. It's like dude you're worth how much. You can't spare a little more to pay for your employees' insurance? Yeah it's so tough being a rich CEO these days. Sigh. Fucking greedy bastards.
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Gus Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:01:32am |
I broke my ankle after being pushed by some other kid back when I was a young teenager. Hairline fracture and was put in a cast for a month. Blue Cross payed the tab and we sued (claim) the kids family for pushing me. Got $1,700 buck and bought model airplane stuff, guitar, amp, etc. Used to also be able to predict rain or an incoming low pressure system for years!
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erik_t Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:01:36am |
re: #80 Sheila Brovlofski
How much does the CEO of Hardee's make and how much (little) are the workers paid?
Nice source you've got there, Bryan.
(Carl's Jr/Hardees founder/owner/CEO) Karcher was an early supporter of John Schmitz, a Republican and member of the John Birch Society, who represented Orange County in the California State Senate and later Congress.
In 1978, he contributed US$1 million to California's anti-gay Proposition 6 initiative, also known as the Briggs Initiative. He was the initiative's biggest financial supporter. The proposition was a ballot measure requiring the termination of all gays and lesbians from employment in public schools. The initiative was defeated by over one million votes.
(Hardee's is no longer privately-held, but the CEO was hired under Karcher and worked for him for nearly a decade until the latter's death)
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:01:44am |
re: #81 erik_t
I don't think McConnell is a True Believer, particularly. I think that, like Romney, he's just seeking to do what it takes to get (re)elected.
Unlike Romney, he's not the World's Most Stunningly Incompetent Politician.
I suppose you're right. Anyhow, we'll see what happens. I hope Schumer is right about what will happen because it's just gotten ridiculous.
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jaunte Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:01:46am |
re: #80 Sheila Brovlofski
Restaurant crews are not currently covered by company health insurance but can buy it on their own through a plan the company offers. Obamacare will require CKE to provide all employees with health insurance beginning in 2014.
Companies like mine that already provide all their workers with the same coverage as management are experiencing reduced costs because of the ACA.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:02:27am |
re: #83 HappyWarrior
Yeah this is like when the owner of Papa Johns bitched. It's like dude you're worth how much. You can't spare a little more to pay for your employees' insurance? Yeah it's so tough being a rich CEO these days. Sigh. Fucking greedy bastards.
Like Gina Rinehart, who's worth something like 80 billion, complains that there are no people in Australia who are willing to work for $2 a day, even if they quit drinking long enough to do an honest day's work.
Gina earned her billions the good old fashioned way, she bootstrap inherited it!
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:03:03am |
re: #35 Lidane
Gee. Why didn't I think of that?
Rand Paul’s solution for lowering health costs: Have patients pay in cash
*facepalm*
Or bring a chicken...
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lawhawk Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:03:10am |
re: #83 HappyWarrior
The added costs for health care for Papa John's was less than the cost of an extra topping per pie IIRC. All to make sure that you had a healthy workforce. Where every study done regarding the workplace has shown that a healthy workforce is a more productive workforce, and a more efficient workforce.
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Gus Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:03:38am |
Right-Wing Media's Misplaced Outrage Over Obama Campaign Poster
Right-wing media expressed outrage over the Obama campaign's use of flag imagery in a campaign poster. But this is not unique to the Obama campaign: a modified American flag was used as a banner for Abraham Lincoln's 1860 presidential campaign.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:03:45am |
re: #86 HappyWarrior
I suppose you're right. Anyhow, we'll see what happens. I hope Schumer is right about what will happen because it's just gotten ridiculous.
I think Schumer's engaged in wishful thinking, like a lot of "moderates" in the party are. If they really think that Willard's defeat is gonna be a vindication of the need for moderation over lunacy and that the party base will realize that they lost because they went full wingnut, then I got a bridge I'm selling for cheap.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:04:42am |
re: #90 lawhawk
The added costs for health care for Papa John's was less than the cost of an extra topping per pie IIRC. All to make sure that you had a healthy workforce. Where every study done regarding the workplace has shown that a healthy workforce is a more productive workforce, and a more efficient workforce.
Yeah the extra cost was fairly mimimial but Schafter or whatever his name is was acting like oh no this is the worst ever. Heh fuck that, besides Paisanos is better pizza anyhow.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:06:12am |
re: #90 lawhawk
The added costs for health care for Papa John's was less than the cost of an extra topping per pie IIRC. All to make sure that you had a healthy workforce. Where every study done regarding the workplace has shown that a healthy workforce is a more productive workforce, and a more efficient workforce.
Yeah, but the days of worrying about the health and well-being of workers was back when a company's success or failure was measured by the work those workers did. Now, when the short-term game is played in the stock market, those workers are seen as cogs that can be replaced as easily as the ones in the machines they work at.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:06:12am |
My brother-in-law the homeless doc, or DR. HOUSELESS, M.D. as we call him, is bitching that AHCA will put him out of business. He has a nice racket going on with all the Medicaid scams he's been running for years, the only way he can lose is if somebody in charge starts paying attention to where all the money is going.
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Amory Blaine Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:06:20am |
re: #57 Targetpractice
Already hearing wingnuts make excuses, though most seem to be sticking to the vague "There must have been something wrong with the bill," while a few are trying to argue that it's good the bill died because the "free market" should make the effort to help those vets and not the government.
Yeah, I'm keep a running list of those who can never say "Support the troops" in my face again without getting read the Riot Act.
Yeah the scuttlebutt is that the bill is laden with pork. Like which bill isn't?
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:06:28am |
re: #94 Gus
Outrage!
Oh come on that's different. Reagan's allowed to do that because he's Reagan. Not Obama because he's Obama and right wing media has to promote him as anti American. Really do those idiots just sit around all day looking for shit to get upset about? Oh the president sneezed! Communist conspiracy!
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Gus Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:07:20am |
re: #98 lawhawk
Seems that nearly every campaign had some form of flag-type pin.
They're all guilty of desecrating the Murican flag! Look at how they're all distorted! Treason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:07:30am |
re: #97 Amory Blaine
Yeah the scuttlebutt is that the bill is laden with pork. Like which bill isn't?
No shit. I lost track of the number of defense appropriations bills, especially during the Bush years, laden with enough pork to feed an army.
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Lidane Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:08:05am |
The 538 "Now-cast" has Obama's chance of winning at 94.4%. fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com— James Ledbetter (@ledbetreuters) September 20, 2012
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:08:41am |
re: #91 Gus
Right-Wing Media's Misplaced Outrage Over Obama Campaign Poster
Right-wing media expressed outrage over the Obama campaign's use of flag imagery in a campaign poster. But this is not unique to the Obama campaign: a modified American flag was used as a banner for Abraham Lincoln's 1860 presidential campaign.
OMG Obama's comparing himself to Lincoln. The chutzpah!!!!111!!
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:08:47am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:08:47am |
re: #100 Gus
They're all guilty of desecrating the Murican flag! Look at how they're all distorted! Treason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll never forget the fourth of july weekend when Bible Spice quit as governor. I posted a HuffPo slide show of American flag bikinis and people claimed to be offended by it. ha!
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Gus Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:09:00am |
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wrenchwench Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:09:51am |
Romney didn't used to be running for President of the 100%. He used to think 90-95% was plenty. From Feb. 1, 2012:
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Gus Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:10:10am |
re: #107 The Left
I'll never forget the fourth of july weekend when Bible Spice quit as governor. I posted a HuffPo slide show of American flag bikinis and people claimed to be offended by it. ha!
Image: sarah_palin_the_tea_party_flag_poster-r4a0a5a22e91b4aae9c5d6dc60af77291_w2u_400.jpg
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jaunte Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:10:42am |
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Kragar Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:11:07am |
re: #102 Lidane
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"You see that glow flashing in your eye? It's called your career dissipation light and it just went into high gear."
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Big Steve Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:11:33am |
There is only one way to properly show and respect the American Flag
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BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:11:54am |
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Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:13:12am |
French man held over Mohammad cartoon revenge plot
Anti-terrorism magistrates near the Mediterranean port city of Toulon questioned the 18-year-old after he threatened in a message on Facebook to cut the throats of anyone he could find at the offices of Charlie Hebdo, a judicial source said.
The suspect had no police record but he was already known to security services, the source said, without giving further details.
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Gus Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:13:15am |
re: #115 The Left
I laughed!
And I laughed like I always do
And I cried like I cried for you
And Balloon Man blew up in my hand
Balloon Man blew up in my hand
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erik_t Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:14:28am |
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b_sharp Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:14:37am |
re: #114 Big Steve
There is only one way to properly show and respect the American Flag
I'll take #9 please, to go.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:15:17am |
re: #119 Amory Blaine
America Fuck Yeah!!
Wrong quote.
"Everywhere around the world,
They're coming to America"
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erik_t Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:16:51am |
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Kragar Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:17:02am |
re: #123 Lidane
Outrage!
[Link: www.google.com...]
Like the fucktards bitching the loudest don't have at least one of these in their closet.
[Link: www.google.com...]
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:20:26am |
FFS SHMULEY ARE U REALLY THAT DUMB?
what's romney during wrong please in his campaign? give me your thoughts please? what could he do better?— Rabbi Shmuley (@RabbiShmuley) September 20, 2012
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:21:22am |
re: #128 Sheila Brovlofski
FFS SHMULEY ARE U REALLY THAT DUMB?
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What's he doing wrong? Would you like that list alphabetically or categorically?
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:21:31am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:21:39am |
re: #128 Sheila Brovlofski
FFS SHMULEY ARE U REALLY THAT DUMB?
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Romney's doing absolutely nothing wrong. Stay the course!
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Gus Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:22:09am |
re: #131 Sheila Brovlofski
I'd look for the Borat cowboy shirt but I'm at work.
Too bad Barton wasn't wearing a pair of red, white and blue suspender Speedos!
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:22:50am |
re: #133 Gus
Too bad Barton wasn't wearing a pair of red, white and blue suspender Speedos!
...is there something you want to share with us, Gus?
///
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Four More Tears Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:27:48am |
What war on women?
New Mexico Gov. requires women seeking childcare assistance to prove they were ‘Forcibly raped’ thkpr.gs/SFkRS1
— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) September 20, 2012
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Lidane Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:30:14am |
re: #138 Mocking Jay
Because the only women who need childcare assistance are the ones who've been raped.
Ugh. Fuck these people. I'd say more, but it's not worth the effort.
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Charleston Chew Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:30:16am |
re: #10 Targetpractice
It really is refreshing to see the Democrats running with confidence and determination. The Republicans have no idea what to make of it.
It's not Democrats showing confidence and determination. It's Obama. When he's gone, spineless cowardice will continue to be a party staple.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:30:26am |
re: #138 Mocking Jay
What war on women?
[Embedded content]
What the hell is wrong with that party when it comes to women? Jesus Christ on a goddamn stick.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:34:27am |
re: #43 HappyWarrior
Ah, I hadn't thought of that. Would they replace him with Cantor or someone else?
Zombie Jefferson Davis.
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wrenchwench Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:34:34am |
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lawhawk Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:48:02am |
re: #128 Sheila Brovlofski
Pascrell is going to win (and that's my district to boot). But my response to Schmuley?
@rabbishmuley can't confine to 140, but how about starting with his belief that 47% of nation are takers, ignoring everyone pays s/l taxes— lawhawk (@lawhawk) September 20, 2012
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MikeTheModerateDemocrat Thu, Sep 20, 2012 12:48:06pm |
re: #140 Charleston Chew
It's not Democrats showing confidence and determination. It's Obama. When he's gone, spineless cowardice will continue to be a party staple.
I must respectfully disagree. The days of being the apologetic, meek opponent in the face of Saint Ronnie and Desert Storm are in the rear view mirror. Beginning with the ascension of Clinton, braving the frauds known as the Contract with America and Tea Party, and seizing on the electronic age years sooner than the GOP, the democrat campaigning machine is the equal or, or better than, their republican counterpart. They'll still lose from time to time, but they won't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory like they used to.
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