Amazing Time-Lapse Pinhole Movie: Camera Obscura Film Project

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CAMERA OBSCURA FILM PROJECT

This video is a part of a pinhole movie project based on the principle of the Camera Obscura. An apartment is completely darkened. A hole is made in a window, letting lights from outside coming in. Projections are taking place everywhere inside.

Stenop.es is looking for amazing places in order to continue its visual work. Contribute now on www.stenop.es
Film made without projector.

CAMERA OBSCURA PARIS
CAMERA OBSCURA INDIA

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Film by Romain Alary & Antoine Levi
Music by Alexis Venot - VERANDA - Chez The Publishing
Special thanks to Pia, Emma, Younès, Greg, Gildas & Alexandre.

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404 comments
1 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 6:34:03pm

Eerily beautiful.

And well selected Muzak.

2 darthstar  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 6:35:33pm

Dear god…sometimes Americans really fuck shit up.

There are a few basic rules in museums. The first, and most important, is: don’t touch the art. Unfortunately, that’s just what one 55-year-old American tourist from Missouri did during a recent a recent visit to Florence’s Museo dell’Opera del Duomo. The result? A 600-year-old statue lost a finger.

3 darthstar  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 6:37:29pm

re: #2 darthstar

Dear god…sometimes Americans really fuck shit up.

Actually, it was a doctor from CT(daily mail):

Patrick Broderick, 55, from New Fairfield, Connecticut, was attempting to comparing his finger to that on a marble sculpture at the Museo dell’Opera del Duomo (Museum of the Works of the Cathedral) when he amputated the digit.

Italian police confirmed his name to MailOnline this afternoon.

What makes the accident even more embarrassing is that married Broderick is an emergency surgeon at Danbury Hospital, Connecticut - surely someone who is better than most with being careful with his hands.

And in a further excruciating twist, Broderick was arrested and taken into custody in front of his wife and his two college-aged children.

4 Kragar  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 6:38:21pm

More on the Kessler Militia:

Gilberton, Pennsylvania Police Chief Kessler Blocks Town Meeting With Armed Militia

in Gilberton, Kessler is known for a lot more than YouTube videos. In addition to being the town’s police chief, Kessler is the head of the Constitution Security Force (CSF), a 100 man militia that vows to protect gun rights in the small town. For years, residents of Gilberton have been uncomfortable with Kessler’s antics. Some even feared that he could begin using his militia to police the town. After Kessler’s videos were posted, residents of the town finally had something they could use against him in an attempt to remove him from his post as police chief. A town meeting was called, during which Kessler was suspended for using borough property for personal use. The town council ruled that Kessler used police department guns without permission.

But the meeting was all but uneventful. At the meeting, over 100 of Kessler’s militia members showed up. The men, all carrying firearms, blocked the entrance to the Gilberton Town Hall and prevented residents from going inside. Few managed to get past Kessler’s security, but those who did spoke to town councilmen about their disdain for Kessler and the position he holds in the town.

“He’s a nut. I do not feel safe with him at all,” resident Wade Necker said.

Another resident, Gregory Grove, said that even Kessler’s wife fears him.

“She’s afraid of him,” he said. “Kessler is a detriment to this borough.”

Residents then delivered a petition signed by 20,000 people demanding that Kessler be removed from his position with the police department. Ultimately, the town council decided, via a 5-1 vote, to suspend Kessler for a month.

5 darthstar  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 6:38:48pm

BTW, Charles…don’t know if you did some configuring lately, but Chrome on Ubuntu is showing the threads on the left side of the screen, not centered. The top lists, etc. that normallnormally run down the left side of the page are gone.

6 darthstar  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 6:42:41pm

Centered again after F5, but tends to become left justified after posting.

7 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 6:44:15pm

re: #4 Kragar

After that stunt, they should have just fired him and called in the National Guard to maintain law and order, because they’re not going to get it with him.

8 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 6:48:28pm

re: #2 darthstar

Dear god…sometimes Americans really fuck shit up.

Did it fart?

9 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 6:49:56pm

re: #5 darthstar

BTW, Charles…don’t know if you did some configuring lately, but Chrome on Ubuntu is showing the threads on the left side of the screen, not centered. The top lists, etc. that normallnormally run down the left side of the page are gone.

Not seeing it here - chrome Version 28.0.1500.95, Xubuntu 13.04.

10 teleskiguy  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 6:53:07pm

Drone hunting being discussed tonight in Deer Trail, CO. According to @AmandaKost there’s a crew from Comedy Central observing the deliberations. Now, this Vine:

11 Stanley Sea  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 6:58:15pm

re: #8 austin_blue

Did it fart?

Ha.

12 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:02:59pm
13 Stanley Sea  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:03:06pm

Is that vine video supposed to keep playing?

14 Stanley Sea  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:08:29pm
15 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:08:42pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

Drone hunting being discussed tonight in Deer Trail, CO. According to @AmandaKost there’s a crew from Comedy Central observing the deliberations. Now, this Vine:

[Embedded content]

If that man ever actually gets what he wants and shoots down a federal drone, he will be very, very sorry. We’ll see how fun his make-believe rebellion is when the FBI SWAT team breaks down his door.

16 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:09:54pm

I had to create a custom monitor driver to get a game the read the EDID right.
I hate computers sometimes.

17 engineer cat  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:12:06pm

i haz a 20 minute dead zone until the other engineers get into work in east asia

18 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:16:37pm
19 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:16:51pm

re: #17 engineer cat

i haz a 20 minute dead zone until the other engineers get into work in east asia

PrOn!

20 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:17:31pm
21 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:18:30pm

From.

22 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:23:49pm

Forget all Teh Derp for a moment.

The answer is 42!

Zedushka & I are celebrating our 42nd wedding anniversary.

9 kids, 32 grandkids (and 2 more expected any week!)

Do I have any regrets? Yeah that I didn’t buy Apple or Microsoft stock in the ‘90’s.

Tomorrow we will have our traditional Anniversary dinner: grilled London Broil, corn-on-the-cob, chilled Bartenura Malavasia.

23 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:24:27pm

re: #21 Gus

From.

[Embedded content]

Actually, the first Allied P40 unit with those markings was the Royal Air Force’s No. 112 Squadron. Their motto: “Swift in Destruction”

24 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:25:23pm

re: #22 Vicious Babushka

Forget all Teh Derp for a moment.

The answer is 42!

Zedushka & I are celebrating our 42nd wedding anniversary.

9 kids, 32 grandkids (and 2 more expected any week!)

Do I have any regrets? Yeah that I didn’t buy Apple or Microsoft stock in the ‘90’s.

Tomorrow we will have our traditional Anniversary dinner: grilled London Broil, corn-on-the-cob, chilled Bartenura Malavasia.

Congratulations and bravo! You are an inspiration to us all.

25 BongCrodny  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:27:34pm

re: #3 darthstar

Actually, it was a doctor from CT(daily mail):

The important question remains: did they give him the finger?

26 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:27:44pm

re: #23 Dark_Falcon

Actually, the first Allied P40 unit with those markings was the Royal Air Force’s No. 112 Squadron. Their motto: “Swift in Destruction”

That’s a specific P-40 from the Flying Tigers. But yeah, I know about that.

airandspace.si.edu

27 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:29:40pm

Prone to overheating so make sure you keep you cowls open during warm up and get your oil pressure up to operating temperature fast. Get up and go.

28 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:29:45pm

re: #22 Vicious Babushka

Forget all Teh Derp for a moment.

The answer is 42!

Zedushka & I are celebrating our 42nd wedding anniversary.

9 kids, 32 grandkids (and 2 more expected any week!)

Do I have any regrets? Yeah that I didn’t buy Apple or Microsoft stock in the ‘90’s.

Tomorrow we will have our traditional Anniversary dinner: grilled London Broil, corn-on-the-cob, chilled Bartenura Malavasia.

And a Big-Time Texas Mazel Tov to you and yours!

29 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:29:59pm

P-40. I did it again.

30 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:30:10pm

Derp.

31 Kragar  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:33:41pm

re: #27 Gus

Youtube Video

32 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:35:21pm

re: #29 Gus

P-40. I did it again.

It’s OK, Gus. Now, if you were facing a Ki-84, then you’d want a P-47. The Jug matched up better against the Frank, owning to its greater ability to survive damage.

33 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:36:32pm

re: #32 Dark_Falcon

It’s OK, Gus. Now, if you were facing a Ki-84, then you’d want a P-47. The Jug matched up better against the Frank, owning to its greater ability to survive damage.

P-47 was also really good for crash landing.

34 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:39:46pm

Listen to #18.

35 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:40:55pm

Good time for this:

Youtube Video

More here.

36 Kragar  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:47:06pm

re: #22 Vicious Babushka

Old joke:

“Honey, I want to thank you for 20 wonderful years of marriage.”
“We’ve been married for 30.”
“And 20 of them were wonderful.”

37 erik_t  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:50:49pm

re: #15 Dark_Falcon

If that man ever actually gets what he wants and shoots down a federal drone, he will be very, very sorry. We’ll see how fun his make-believe rebellion is when the FBI SWAT team breaks down his door.

(watches video)
((watches video again))

Given facts in evidence, I think his freedumb is quite safe.

38 A Mom Anon  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:54:50pm

Congrats to VB and her hubby on 42 yrs of marriage! !!

39 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 7:56:04pm

re: #38 A Mom Anon

Congrats to VB and her hubby on 42 yrs of marriage! !!

Hear, hear!

40 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:00:08pm
41 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:02:37pm

Yep. No problem.

42 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:04:40pm

One percenter public servants. No problem.

43 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:07:20pm

Oops. I apologize for criticizing the City of Santa, California. I see now that it’s a Democratic Party administration. My mistake.

44 Kragar  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:08:28pm

Meh, even when I see a movie I might otherwise be interested in, I see Jake Gyllenhaal is in it and all I want to do is slap him.

45 alpuz  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:22:09pm

re: #44 Kragar

There will be no slappin’ the Jake tonight.

46 engineer cat  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:26:40pm

chilled Bartenura Malavasia

ah, malavasia, i should have married her when i had a chance…

42 yrs? that deserves a mazel tov fershure!

47 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:28:07pm

George Duke, Crossover Musician With Frank Zappa, Dies at 67

…Mr. Duke, who as a small boy begged his mother to buy him a piano after she took him to see Duke Ellington, began playing professionally at a time when many musicians were interested in blending genres. He played in a trio that backed the singer Al Jarreau while he was still a teenager, then accompanied Dizzy Gillespie and other jazz musicians at clubs in San Francisco. By the early 1970s he had performed and recorded with Adderley, the jazz violinist Jean-Luc Ponty and Zappa’s Mothers of Invention. (His six-year stint with Zappa included an appearance, with the rest of the band, in the feature film “200 Motels.”)…

48 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:29:30pm

Good evening lizards, I’m kicking back watching sports TV..Winston is back from the Groomer and his oatmeal bath..In a few hours it will be hump day at work..And the Earth keeps turning..
So…My goals..
I want to die young at a very old age

49 blueraven  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:36:47pm

POTUS coming up on Jay Leno.

50 blueraven  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:41:52pm

re: #47 Gus

George Duke, Crossover Musician With Frank Zappa, Dies at 67

I was surprised to see a mention about George Duke on FOX news. Not surprised that it was on Shepard Smith’s hour. It was nice.

51 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:42:02pm

Pretty sad that most famous American jazz musicians became famous in Europe instead of America because of all the racists redneck SOUTHERN Americans. Ain’t that right?

52 Kragar  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:42:38pm

re: #45 alpuz

There will be no slappin’ the Jake tonight.

That’s what you think.

53 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:45:05pm
54 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:45:54pm

Caution! Redstate poster comment ahead! A robust answer for correcting the ills within her own Republican party. rightlane111:
“Mr. H. (author of the diary) First…we need to communicate better, more sources to get our words out…not filtered through the MSM. Second…we need…not want a Conservative candidate…otherwise, because we feel like we have already gone over the cliff…we need a candidate that can throw us a life line of hope to pull ourselves up. Every Senator that has not signed Mike Lee’s letter needs to be primaried if they are up. People in Georgia…you want someone who is doing something in Congress WITH A RECORD…and is running for Chambliss’ seat..read about Rep. Paul Broun.

Suggestion for how to get Hildabeast to present herself as she really is…replay her screeching “what difference does it make” reply to Congress, followed by the coffins of those dead…and then the back story of the guns being run via Libya to Syria.

Republicans…you expect the people of this country to recognize humility? Do you? Get a life…you have to present your story in the same light as the DNC…then people see apples and apples. Those of us that follow politics don’t need the hype…BUT WE LOST THE LAST ELECTION JUST BECAUSE OF THIS.”

55 engineer cat  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:46:19pm

tonite i will be preforming as jake leg slappy

56 alpuz  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:46:50pm

re: #52 Kragar

The Gyllenhaal? Well then.. that’s entirely up to you. I watched Zodiac, and didn’t mind it!

57 dell*nix  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:47:34pm

re: #51 Gus

Let us not forget the NORTHERN redneck contributions.

58 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:49:31pm

re: #57 dell*nix

Let us not forget the NORTHERN redneck contributions.

Pennsylvania!

59 alpuz  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:49:31pm

re: #51 Gus

Mingus probably agrees.

60 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:52:19pm

re: #59 alpuz

Mingus probably agrees.

Last country to ban slavery so it makes sense.

61 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:53:58pm

30 years before my mom’s dad was born. Cough.

62 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:56:48pm
63 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 9:02:05pm

Derp.

64 engineer cat  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 9:06:12pm

re: #62 Gus

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he said ‘mount’ hyuk hyuk

65 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 9:08:22pm

OK. re: #64 engineer cat

he said ‘mount’ hyuk hyuk

Gilad Atzmon is nuts.

66 Carlos Danger  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 9:10:06pm

It’s amazing people are defending that shooter in PA based on some insane idea that he was defending his property rights from the government. Too many of these dudes think he’s Michael Douglas in Falling Down.

67 Gus  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 9:10:42pm
68 sagehen  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 9:27:42pm

re: #40 Gus

[Embedded content]

I’m sure managing the City of Santa Ana is more difficult and complicated and requires more specialized skills than Presidenting the entire United States; that’s got to be the explanation for why he’s paid more. “If we don’t pay that much, he’ll go elsewhere!”

//

69 Kragar  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 9:41:50pm

So what did my brother do today? He spent the day talking to Bret Easton Ellis about sci-fi movies.

Bastard.

70 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 9:45:57pm

re: #69 Kragar

So what did my brother do today? He spent the day talking to Bret Easton Ellis about sci-fi movies.

Bastard.

Man!

71 Kragar  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 10:10:44pm

Meanwhile, I’ve finished the first act of the movie draft I’ve been working on, and the head of the production team said he’s going to buy me the voice to text software I was looking at so I could be more comfortable getting my thoughts into hard copy.

72 darthstar  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 10:20:20pm
73 darthstar  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 10:20:59pm

re: #72 darthstar

I thought my hashtag was a nice touch.

74 freetoken  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 10:59:18pm

MP3 Audio

75 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 11:04:46pm

re: #74 freetoken

[Embedded content]

Composer?

76 freetoken  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 11:16:39pm

re: #75 prairiefire

Ralph Vaughn Williams.

77 freetoken  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 11:33:06pm

I still get the “comment is too long” warning box, even though the counter on the bottom is no where near run out to 0.

78 freetoken  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 11:33:41pm

Legal fight of the day:

In Supreme Court, Republicans Defend Opening Prayers

Members of Congress are sending the U.S. Supreme Court a message: Let us pray.

In two amicus briefs filed this week, 34 (mostly) Republican senators and 85 (mostly) Republican representatives are urging the justices to allow the House and Senate to start their daily sessions with prayers that, as one brief puts it, seek “God’s blessing and guidance in making consequential decisions.”

The Supreme Court has agreed to hear arguments this session in Greece v. Galloway, where the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit ruled in 2012 that the town’s legislative prayers were unconstitutional endorsements of Christianity. The ruling could shape the interpretation of the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause.

[…]

The brief for the group of mostly-Republican representatives, written by Kenneth Klukowski, counsel for Family Research Council in Washington, argues that confusion is the result of the “endorsement test” adopted in two Supreme Court cases—County of Allegheny v. ACLU, Greater Pittsburgh in 1989 and Van Orden v. Perry in 2005.

That test, which examines whether the selection of prayer-givers or exploitation of the prayer opportunity is an endorsement of a religion, should be thrown out and replaced with an objective standard, the brief argues.

[…]

[continued]

79 freetoken  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 11:35:44pm

[cont]

Here’s the brief from the FRC that several Reps (almost all Republicans) wanted:

BRIEF FOR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AS AMICI CURIAE IN SUPPORT OF PETITIONER

Amici curiae are 85 Members of Congress in the United States House of Representatives, and are
individually named in the Appendix to this brief. This
group is bipartisan [barely] and multi-faith.

These elected Representatives regard legislative
prayer as important for policymaking bodies, both to
solemnize official occasions and to seek God’s blessing
and guidance in making consequential decisions. Each
Member also represents municipalities—not unlike
Petitioner Town of Greece—and part of a sovereign
State, each of which is governed by a body that
practices legislative prayer at the outset of its meetings
and sessions.

Moreover, amici are concerned over the growing
exclusion of longstanding and historically-accepted
acknowledgments of the Divine and expressions of
religious faith in this Nation—whether religious speech
or passive displays. Congress now regularly sees its
actions set at naught by an erroneous view of the
Establishment Clause. […]

ARGUMENT

Legislative prayer jurisprudence has gone seriously
awry. Rather than doing so of its own accord, the
disarray in the lower courts is the direct and
predictable result of the endorsement test, with its
insurmountable subjectivity and latent hostility toward
even benign an d h i s t o r i c a l l y - a c c ep t ed
acknowledgments of faith.

[…]

B. But there are many other areas where Congress
has acted on matters intersecting religion, which are
also imperiled by the judiciary’s recent jurisprudence.

A Federal war memorial in the Mojave Desert was held
unconstitutional as an endorsement of Christianity,
and saved only by transferring the plot of land where
the memorial sat to a private veterans’ organization.
Salazar v. Buono, 130 S. Ct. 1803, 1813–14, 1819, 1821
(2010) (plurality opinion). After 24 years of litigation,
another congressionally-sanctioned memorial—the Mt. Soledad Veterans Memorial—has been invalidated as an endorsement of Christianity in its current form, and is now undergoing modifications in an attempt to save it. See Trunk v. San Diego, 629 F.3d 1099, 1103, 1124–25 (9th Cir. 2011).

Other matters pertaining to faith codified in Federal
law by Congress have likewise been challenged over the
past decade as endorsements of religion. These include
the National Motto, 36 U.S.C. § 302, the National Day
of Prayer, 36 U.S.C. § 119, and the Pledge of
Allegiance, 4 U.S.C. § 4. Even the Chief Justice of this Court has been sued because of traditional language said when administering the President’s Oath of Office at Inaugurations. […]

[continued]

80 engineer cat  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 11:36:17pm

re: #76 freetoken

Ralph Vaughn Williams.

nice

we used to sing vaughn williams’ ‘allelulia’ in high school

81 freetoken  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 11:37:05pm

[cont]

[…]

As Justice Kennedy predicted at the outset, the endorsement test has led to outcomes evincing “hostility [toward religion] inconsistent with our history and our precedents.” Allegheny, 492 U.S. at 655
(Kennedy, J.). Ubiquitous expressions and displays of
widely-held beliefs integral to our national fabric are regularly beset by hostile attacks divorced from the historical understanding of the Establishment Clause.

[…]

And so on. The FRC is bringing up all these old issues because they’ve been on the losing case of the overall battle for 30 some years now, and they are hoping to tie this case (about legislative prayer) into a bigger play.

The 85 Representatives who are signers to the FRC associated team who write this:

1. Rep. Robert B. Aderholt of Alabama
2. Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota
3. Rep. Andy Barr of Kentucky
4. Rep. Kerry L. Bentivolio of Michigan
5. Rep. Gus M. Bilirakis of Florida
6. Rep. Rob Bishop of Utah
7. Rep. Diane Black of Tennessee
8. Rep. Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee
9. Rep. Kevin Brady of Texas
10. Rep. Jim Bridenstine of Oklahoma
11. Rep. Mo Brooks of Alabama
12. Rep. Paul C. Broun of Georgia
13. Rep. Tom Cole of Oklahoma
14. Rep. Chris Collins of New York
15. Rep. Doug Collins of Georgia
16. Rep. K. Michael Conaway of Texas
17. Rep. Kevin Cramer of North Dakota
18. Rep. John A. Culberson of Texas
19. Rep. Ron DeSantis of Florida
20. Rep. Jeff Duncan of South Carolina
21. Rep. Blake Farenthold of Texas
22. Rep. Stephen Fincher of Tennessee
23. Rep. Chuck Fleischmann of Tennessee
24. Rep. John Fleming of Louisiana
25. Rep. Bill Flores of Texas
26. Rep. J. Randy Forbes of Virginia
27. Rep. Jeff Fortenberry of Nebraska
28. Rep. Virginia Foxx of North Carolina
29. Rep. Trent Franks of Arizona
30. Rep. Scott Garrett of New Jersey
31. Rep. Phil Gingrey of Georgia
32. Rep. Louie Gohmert of Texas
33. Rep. Bob Goodlatte of Virginia
34. Rep. Tim Griffin of Arkansas
35. Rep. Gregg Harper of Mississippi
36. Rep. Andy Harris of Maryland
37. Rep. Vicky Hartzler of Missouri
38. Rep. Jeb Hensarling of Texas
39. Rep. Richard Hudson of North Carolina
40. Rep. Tim Huelskamp of Kansas
41. Rep. Randy Hultgren of Illinois
42. Rep. Bill Johnson of Ohio
43. Rep. Sam Johnson of Texas
44. Rep. Walter B. Jones of North Carolina
45. Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio
46. Rep. Mike Kelly of Pennsylvania
47. Rep. John Kline of Minnesota
48. Rep. Doug LaMalfa of California
49. Rep. Doug Lamborn of Colorado
50. Rep. James Lankford of Oklahoma
51. Rep. Robert E. Latta of Ohio
52. Rep. Bill Long of Missouri
53. Rep. Mike McIntyre of North Carolina
54. Rep. Mark Meadows of North Carolina
55. Rep. Luke Messer of Indiana
56. Rep. Jeff Miller of Florida
57. Rep. Markwayne Mullin of Oklahoma
58. Rep. Randy Neugebauer of Texas
59. Rep. Kristi Noem of South Dakota
60. Rep. Alan Nunnelee at Mississippi
61. Rep. Pete Olson of Texas
62. Rep. Steven Palazzo of Mississippi
63. Rep. Stevan Pearce of New Mexico
64. Rep. Robert Pittenger of North Carolina
65. Rep. Joseph R. Pitts of Pennsylvania
66. Rep. Ted Poe of Texas
67. Rep. Mike Pompeo of Kansas
68. Rep. Bill Posey of Florida
69. Rep. Tom Price of Georgia
70. Rep. Tom Reed of New York
71. Rep. Phil Roe of Tennessee
72. Rep. Todd Rokita of Indiana
73. Rep. Keith Rothfus of Pennsylvania
74. Rep. Matt Salmon of Arizona
75. Rep. Steve Scalise of Louisiana
76. Rep. Austin Scott of Georgia
77. Rep. Adrian Smith of Nebraska
78. Rep. Steve Southerland of Florida
79. Rep. Michael R. Turner of Ohio
80. Rep. Tim Walberg of Michigan
81. Rep. Daniel Webster of Florida
82. Rep. Brad Wenstrup of Ohio
83. Rep. Lynn Westmoreland of Georgia
84. Rep. Joe Wilson of South Carolina
85. Rep. Rob Woodall of Georgia

82 engineer cat  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 11:38:25pm

ignatz really does watch teevee

he’s up at the screen right now trying to catch the swimming dinosaurs

83 freetoken  Tue, Aug 6, 2013 11:59:50pm

Speaking of religion, Ross Douthat wrote a particularly misleading column last weekend, as part of the Reza Aslan brouhaha:

Return of the Jesus Wars

BEFORE “The Da Vinci Code” and “The Gospel of Judas,” before Mel Gibson’s “Passion” and Martin Scorsese’s “Last Temptation,” before the Dead Sea Scrolls were unearthed and the Gnostic gospels rediscovered, there was a German scholar named Hermann Samuel Reimarus.

[…]

That’s just disingenuous because Reimarus wasn’t writing pop fiction for movie scripts, but attempting something serious. Even the next paragraph encapsulates Douthat’s slight handedness while also showing how self-incriminating his column is:

It was Reimarus, writing in the 18th century, who basically invented the modern Jesus wars, by postulating a gulf between the Jesus of history and the Christ of faith. The real Jesus of Nazareth, he argued, was a political revolutionary who died disappointed, and whose disciples invented a resurrection — and with it, a religion — to make sense of his failure.

What’s left out is that German scholars were beginning to approach the entire of the “Scriptures” with a more critical eye, after a couple of centuries of the growth of science had started to change European minds to not automatically accepting what the Church had to say, about anything, including the Bible.

The punch line is at the end:

And they’re reminders that every modern account of how an alternative Christianity might have changed the world is itself indebted to the many ways the historical Christianity actually did.

And this is what Douthat attempted to do all along - to try and paint this Aslan book as one more victimization of Christians and Christianity.

While most of the commenters on that NYT piece fall into the usual trap of arguing their own religious ideas, a couple do take Douthat to task for his slipshod approach. One points out quite rightly:

Douthat says that the “real Jesus” histories “raise the question of how a pedestrian figure — one zealot among many, one mystic in a Mediterranean full of them — inspired a global faith.” By that comment, Douthat reveals his failure to grasp and engage the central point of those histories - that Jesus didn’t create a religion at all; his disciples and St. Paul did that after he died.

On top of that, Douthat fails to point out that Aslan is writing a summary and never claims to be an original researcher on the problem.

84 engineer cat  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 12:20:41am

re: #83 freetoken

one zealot among many

a quibble - “zealot” is a technical term in this context, in that it refers to a particular group in 1st century judea with a particular approach to fighting the romans

jesus wasn’t one of them

85 freetoken  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 1:20:27am

SoundCloud

86 simoom  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 4:12:14am

bbc.co.uk

Yemen says it has foiled an al-Qaeda plot to blow up oil pipelines and seize some of the country’s main ports.

Security remains tight - and hundreds of armoured vehicles have been deployed to protect key targets.

Both the US and UK have withdrawn diplomatic staff from Yemen, prompted by intelligence reports of renewed terrorist activity.

The US is reported to be preparing special operations forces for possible strikes against al-Qaeda in Yemen.

The BBC’s correspondent in Washington, David Willis, says it appears that Yemen was at the centre of a complex and audacious plot which - had it succeeded - would have given al-Qaeda control over a crucial aspect of the country’s infrastructure.

Yemeni government spokesman Rajeh Badi said the plot involved blowing up oil pipelines and taking control of certain cities - including two ports in the south, one of which accounts for the bulk of Yemen’s oil exports and is where a number of foreign workers are employed.

…

Al-Qaeda members dressed as soldiers were to be outside the ports, he said. On a given signal they were to invade the facility and take it over.

Yemeni officials quoted by AP news agency said they believed the motive for the planned attacks was retaliation for the killing of senior al-Qaeda figure Said al-Shihri, who was critically wounded in a November drone strike and later died of his injuries.

The BBC’s Abdullah Ghorab, in Sanaa, says there are unprecedented security measures in the capital, with hundreds of armoured vehicles deployed around the city.

Tanks and troops have surrounded foreign missions, government offices and the airport, and senior officials are being advised to limit their movements.

87 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 4:12:59am

re: #65 Gus

OK.

Gilad Atzmon is nuts.

He’s the Dudebro that MJayRosenberg wants to be when he grows up.

88 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 4:18:38am

Bryan is Derping bright and early about his “god-given right” to Oppress Teh Ghey.

89 No Country For Old Haters  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 4:45:15am

re: #88 Vicious Babushka

90 A Mom Anon  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 4:48:03am

re: #40 Gus

Our county schools superintendent makes close to that by the time you throw in his gold plated health insurance and the use of a car. It’s gross no matter what party it is.

What I don’t have time for though is to constantly go”yes, Democrats are awful too” all freaking day. As a general rule, right now, today, it’s Republicans in charge who are doing the most damage, every. single. day. They’re chipping away at everything from how the animal shelters are run, to trying to sell off our schools to private companies, to defunding parks and infrastructure maintenance and repair, stripping away voting rights bit by bit, to intentionally suppressing wages and stopping job creation, to fucking with people’s health insurance. I’d rather focus on that because it’s that stuff that’s killing the country.

I do think if enough people in that California town raised hell about that salary it would get changed. But honestly, I’m currently surrounded by Paul Broun signs in my neighborhood, these people really want this nutbag for Senator, they’re going to take time off work and go vote for him in the primaries and go have coffee with him an hour away at some rile the base meeting. Broun has the potential to do a shit ton of damage, way beyond this ass in CA. Triage man, triage.

91 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 4:48:04am

re: #88 Vicious Babushka

He can believe it all he wants.

My response to people like him:

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92 A Mom Anon  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 4:50:26am

re: #91 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

He reminds me of Gladys Kravits(the super nosy neighbor/gossip, for you youngsters who aren’t familiar) on Bewitched. On Meth. And meaner.

93 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 4:52:36am

What is this…I can’t even…

94 A Mom Anon  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 4:57:16am

re: #93 Vicious Babushka

Can you imagine what a private detective would find out about this guy in a couple of days? I have a feeling that would unearth some rather interesting info. He really just needs to embrace who he is and let go of the hatred. He thinks about homosexuality more often than actual homosexuals do. Just sayin’…

95 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 5:04:02am

re: #94 A Mom Anon

Can you imagine what a private detective would find out about this guy in a couple of days? I have a feeling that would unearth some rather interesting info. He really just needs to embrace who he is and let go of the hatred. He thinks about homosexuality more often than actual homosexuals do. Just sayin’…

It would be so awesome if somebody, like George Takei, made a “Gay Bryan Fischer” parody Twitter account. I would so follow that!

96 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 5:05:03am

First Tweet: I’m here, I’m Queer, Jesus loves me, I have fabulous hair!

97 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 5:17:32am

DERP. How many times does it have to be repeated METADATA IS NOT SURVEILLANCE!!!! The phone company and the Internet carriers collect this exact same metadata ARE THEY SPYING ON YOU? Collecting websites and searches so they can decide what adverts to throw at you?

Glenn Greenwald retweeted:

98 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 5:23:56am

re: #94 A Mom Anon

Can you imagine what a private detective would find out about this guy in a couple of days? I have a feeling that would unearth some rather interesting info. He really just needs to embrace who he is and let go of the hatred. He thinks about homosexuality more often than actual homosexuals do. Just sayin’…

Well, after reading this splcenter.org it’s not hard to figure out that a big ego, years of resentment, and revenge against those who dared question him, plus a big dose of help from those in power in Idaho politics and media, propelled him to national prominence.

I think you’d have to go all the way back to Stanford (1969-1973—he was in a fraternity) or even before. He has said his dad introduced him to a “relationship with Christ”. Who knows, maybe that’s his substitute for a real man.

99 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 5:23:56am

Is today the end of Ramadan? Happy Eid!

100 A Mom Anon  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 5:25:59am

re: #97 Vicious Babushka

I guess Glenn can shut up now. Mission Accomplished. He totally clouded and confused the issue and scared everyone, got a book deal and gets his face plastered all over TV. Could he go away now? Sigh. No of course he won’t.

It would be lovely if he’d take all that outrage and channel it towards the poverty, corruption and social problems in his chosen country of residence.

101 A Mom Anon  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 5:27:36am

re: #98 Justanotherhuman

Or as we say here: That man has so many issues, he has subscriptions. (a little publishing humor, har, har )

(edited to add) I’d almost bet money that a PI would find some pretty interesting “hobbies” in Bryan’s present life, besides being a miserable jerk on the internet.

102 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 5:35:50am

re: #97 Vicious Babushka

Also, the NSA isn’t doing domestic surveillance of metadata.

(The FBI totally is).

103 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 5:39:44am

re: #102 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Also, the NSA isn’t doing domestic surveillance of metadata.

(The FBI totally is).

I have pointed out before, every cop show on TV shows their “computer nerd” expert pulling up “phone records” as a first step.

Penelope on “Criminal Minds” shows off her mad SQL skillz as she inner joins phone metadata with unsolved cold cases within a radius, confidential psychiatric files and sealed juvie records. Fuck warrants, we’re hunting a serial killer!

104 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 5:39:57am

Yemen says it has foiled an al-Qaeda plot bbc.co.uk

“The BBC’s correspondent in Washington, David Willis, says it appears that Yemen was at the centre of a complex and audacious plot which - had it succeeded - would have given al-Qaeda control over a crucial aspect of the country’s infrastructure.”

105 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 5:46:03am

re: #89 JeffFX

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BY TAKING AWAY BRYAN FISCHER’S RIGHT TO OPPRESS TEH GEHYS, YOU’RE OPPRESSING BRYAN FISCHER

or something to that effect.

And Happy Anniversary to VB.

106 No Country For Old Haters  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 5:47:17am

re: #98 Justanotherhuman

107 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:00:31am

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108 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:05:20am

Looks like President Obama has canceled the meeting with President Putin in Moscow.

bigstory.ap.org

Just came over the wires a couple of minutes ago.

109 b.d.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:06:52am

re: #108 Dr Lizardo

Looks like President Obama has canceled the meeting with President Putin in Moscow.

bigstory.ap.org

Just came over the wires a couple of minutes ago.

Good

110 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:07:53am

re: #109 b.d.

Good

More here.

hosted.ap.org

111 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:09:30am

I couldn’t agree more:

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(my wife’s sister is visiting and she sleeps until 11 so I have to be quiet so keep it down guys)

112 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:11:43am

re: #111 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I couldn’t agree more:

Image: WY9wOjS.gif

(my wife’s sister is visiting and she sleeps until 11 so I have to be quiet so keep it down guys)

WHAT DID YOU SAY!

113 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:11:53am

re: #111 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I couldn’t agree more:

Image: WY9wOjS.gif

(my wife’s sister is visiting and she sleeps until 11 so I have to be quiet so keep it down guys)

A TV show I’d like to see: “The News Hour with Stephen Fry and George Takei”.

Epic.

114 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:20:20am

re: #113 Dr Lizardo

A TV show I’d like to see: “The News Hour with Stephen Fry and George Takei”.

Epic.

Oh my.

115 darthstar  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:20:33am

re: #108 Dr Lizardo

Looks like President Obama has canceled the meeting with President Putin in Moscow.
Yep…and our favorite asshole is already out with the redirects

116 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:21:48am
117 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:22:26am
118 darthstar  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:23:11am

Parrots are squawking.

119 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:23:39am

Is there even a remote possibility that these accused are not likely to receive a fair trial if they are extradited?

120 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:23:45am

I’m glad that we’re in agreement that those who broke the law should be denied asylum, Glenn.

121 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:24:49am

IT HAD 10’S OF K OF RAM!

122 b.d.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:26:02am

Now the whole lunatic fringe are Putin defenders who demand that Obama goes and has some tea with him?

123 darthstar  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:27:27am
124 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:30:48am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Kenyan authorities are dealing with a massive fire that has seriously damaged the International Airport in Nairobi. So far, they have yet to identify the cause, but note that today marks the 15th anniversary of the al Qaeda bombings of the US embassies in Africa.

125 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:33:18am
126 b.d.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:35:26am

re: #125 Vicious Babushka

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Media figures discussing Obama/Putin/extradition should talk about what I want them to talk about!!1!

127 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:36:08am

re: #121 Vicious Babushka

Hey, I remember those monsters from the 60s, too. Mainframes we had to fill out forms to send to “data processing” to input into the ‘puter. Put in many hours of overtime at the gas co. Then I still had to manually bill for service calls and sales. As late as 1968 we were still manually billing for gas usage, also, until the switch was made. Took months.

128 darthstar  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:39:14am
129 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:41:20am

LOL FAIL

130 Internet Tough Guy  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:41:35am

re: #125 Vicious Babushka

Maybe Glenn should Google Alexei Navalny, Pussy Riot, and Boris Berezovsky.

Among others.

131 darthstar  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:42:12am
132 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:42:24am

re: #124 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Kenyan authorities are dealing with a massive fire that has seriously damaged the International Airport in Nairobi. So far, they have yet to identify the cause, but note that today marks the 15th anniversary of the al Qaeda bombings of the US embassies in Africa.

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One tidbit I heard when I was watching France 24 this morning was that some folks who owned or operated shops in the duty-free area were evicted a few days ago, and that area is extremely close to where the fire started. Kenyan authorities aren’t ruling anything in or out at this point, but it’s a point to consider that perhaps some disgruntled shop owners may have torched the place out of revenge for their being shown the door.

133 darthstar  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:43:18am

re: #130 Internet Tough Guy

Maybe Glenn should Google Alexei Navalny, Pussy Riot, and Boris Berezovsky.

Among others.

Shorter Greenwald: “America bad! Look at me!”

134 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:47:16am

EXCLUSIVE-Saudi offers Russia deal to scale back Assad support -sources trust.org

AMMAN/DOHA, Aug 7 (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia has offered Russia economic incentives including a major arms deal and a pledge not to challenge Russian gas sales if Moscow scales back support for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, Middle East sources and Western diplomats said on Wednesday.

The proposed deal between two of the leading power brokers in Syria’s devastating civil war was set out by Saudi intelligence chief Prince Bandar bin Sultan at a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow last week, they said.

135 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:47:39am

re: #125 Vicious Babushka

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Glenn’s counter examples to Edward Snowden include an ex-CIA station chief who ran from a conviction for his involvement in the kidnapping an imam, a Bolivian ex-president whose successors want him to answer for deaths in protests they organized, and a Cuban ex-pat and ex-CIA agent who can’t be deported either to Cuba or Venezuela because it’s been ruled that he faces torture in both countries.

Oy.

136 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:49:34am

re: #133 darthstar

Shorter Greenwald: “America bad! Look at me!”

That is what it all boils down to. He’s busy complaining that the US is backing out of talks with Putin due in part to Snowden (and what that percentage that part is isn’t clear - but the anti-gay law enforcement could be part of the decision too). He then comes up with examples of people the US granted asylum to that are bad people or even convicted criminals, which apparently is an unintended recognition that Snowden too is a criminal.

137 b.d.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:51:56am

re: #129 Vicious Babushka

LOL FAIL

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Silly NBC. He now spells his name EЯIK

138 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:55:24am

Each of Glenn’s examples show his double-standard, as he doesn’t believe Snowden should stand trial, doesn’t think he should have to answer for any charges because they’re “made-up,” and doesn’t want Snowden extradited because he fears “torture.”

139 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:57:28am

Breaking News: Mittens and Teabag Party still want healthcare for people to “go away”.

And how can you not love this sentence:

This of course caused a furor among the Tea Party set, members of which tripped all over their own dicks to tell ace cub reporter Matthew Boyle of Corpse Breitbart’s Virtual Dude Ranch for Sociopathic Llama Felchers…

Internet’s been won today. Everybody go home.

141 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:58:32am

re: #139 Bulworth

Breaking News: Mittens and Teabag Party still want healthcare for people to “go away”.

And how can you not love this sentence:

Internet’s been won today. Everybody go home.

Wonkette even managed to work Inez in there.

142 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:59:00am

re: #138 Targetpractice

Also, too: Russia’s great. Freedom. //

143 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 6:59:57am

Revisionist Derp NOW EVEN MOAR DERANGED.

144 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:01:09am
145 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:01:31am

Al Qaeda Conference Call Intercepted by U.S. Officials Sparked Alerts thedailybeast.com

“Al Qaeda members included representatives or leaders from Nigeria’s Boko Haram, the Pakistani Taliban, al Qaeda in Iraq, al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, and more obscure al Qaeda affiliates such as the Uzbekistan branch. Also on the call were representatives of aspiring al Qaeda affiliates such as al Qaeda in the Sinai Peninsula, according to a U.S. intelligence official. The presence of aspiring al Qaeda affiliates operating in the Sinai was one reason the State Department closed the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv, according to one U.S. intelligence official. “These guys already proved they could hit Eilat. It’s not out of the range of possibilities that they could hit us in Tel Aviv,” the official said.”

146 Internet Tough Guy  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:03:37am

re: #143 Vicious Babushka

LOL at someone named “Stand Your Ground” caring about African-American rights

Like to life, for example.

147 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:06:24am

Good morning lizards!

148 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:09:17am

re: #141 Vicious Babushka

Hmmmm. Missed that..

149 b.d.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:21:29am

Why Did the Obama Administration Deny Bolivia’s Extradition Request? by Jake G’Damn Tapper; Sept. 10th 2012

“The former president is accused of genocide for ordering security forces to suppress some violent demonstrations where people were killed,” the source recalled. “For extradition requests to be successful, there are two standards that must be met. One, the accused crime has to be a crime in both jurisdictions, and two, there has to be a reasonable belief that the individual committed the crime.”

The Bolivian request failed to meet both of these requirements, the source said.

As a technical matter, while there exists a charge for “genocide” in U.S. criminal code — 18 USC 1091 - what the Bolivians are alleging falls short of the U.S. charge, the source said. It might be better, the source suggested, to allege charges of murder or conspiracy to commit murder.*

Moreover, the source said, “the accusation is of genocide but there was no proof presented” in the extradition request that Sanchez de Lozada knowingly ordered the killing of these individuals. Clearly the military forces were acting on his orders to suppress the demonstrations, but so far the U.S. has yet to see any evidence that Sanchez de Lozada ordered anyone killed.

“The was virtually no evidence presented in the petition,” the source said, adding that the Bolivian government by reputation often sends “very defective requests” to the U.S. government, and suggesting that this may have been more of an attempt by the Bolivian president to get on his “anti-American soapbox” than anything else.

150 Carlos Danger  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:22:06am

Yahoo joins the sans-serif club

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151 Bubblehead II  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:26:49am

re: #22 Vicious Babushka

Morning Lizards. Happy anniversary V.B.

152 Ian G.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:29:40am

re: #143 Vicious Babushka

I know it’s just for the echo chamber, but do any of these people have an answer (besides “false consciousness!!!111”) for why African-Americans continue to vote for Democrats in overwhelming numbers? It’s almost as if they know it’s not 1865 anymore, and that Thaddeus Stevens would spit on the “Republican” name today….

153 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:30:32am
154 Ian G.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:31:35am

re: #149 b.d.

I’m waiting for Greenwald’s outrage over Obummer’s refusal to extradite a North Korean exile who was convicted of not believing that the birth of Kim Jong-Il was heralded by a new star in the sky.

/// (sort of, as I wouldn’t put anything past Greenwald at this point)

155 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:31:51am

re: #152 Ian G.

I know it’s just for the echo chamber, but do any of these people have an answer (besides “false consciousness!!!111”) for why African-Americans continue to vote for Democrats in overwhelming numbers? It’s almost as if they know it’s not 1865 anymore, and that Thaddeus Stevens would spit on the “Republican” name today….

IT’S BECAZ THEY GET FOOD STAMPS & FREE STUFF!!!!11 HURR HURR!!!11!!!!

156 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:35:15am

re: #152 Ian G.

I know it’s just for the echo chamber, but do any of these people have an answer (besides “false consciousness!!!111”) for why African-Americans continue to vote for Democrats in overwhelming numbers? It’s almost as if they know it’s not 1865 anymore, and that Thaddeus Stevens would spit on the “Republican” name today….

Let Bryan Fischer explain it for you:

157 Ian G.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:38:51am

re: #156 Vicious Babushka

Sigh….

How about that majority of food stamp recipients who are white, Bryan? Do they need to be led off the “nanny state plantation” too?

Wait, why am I complaining about this? I want the GOP to keep losing, and it certainly helps in that regard if they just continue the “Democrats are the real racists” circle-jerk while African-Americans continue to vote 90%+ for Dems.

158 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:40:43am

re: #157 Ian G.

Sigh….

How about that majority of food stamp recipients who are white, Bryan? Do they need to be led off the “nanny state plantation” too?

Wait, why am I complaining about this? I want the GOP to keep losing, and it certainly helps in that regard if they just continue the “Democrats are the real racists” circle-jerk while African-Americans continue to vote 90%+ for Dems.

Did you miss the discussion last night of Inez’s Great Ouevre on Breitbart LIBRULZ IS TEH SLAVE OWNERS OF TEH MODERN TIMES!!!11!! Breathtaking, vomit-inducing Derp.

159 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:41:33am

It seems as thought the RW is stuck on slavery imagery.

160 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:42:40am

Breitbart do com: Race experts realists.

161 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:43:44am
162 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:44:40am

Oh look who’s practicing slavery.

HURR HURR IT TEH FREE MARKET!!11!! NOBODY FORCES THEM TO WORK THEIR!!!11 DON’T BELIEVE TEH YOONYUN LIES TAHT WORKERS WAS FORCED TO WORK THEY’RE WITHOUT PAY. YOONYUN COMMIE LIES!!!11!!!!!

163 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:44:40am

Fight the good Fight ‏@morehouse64 16h
The Very Best Form of #Socialism:The Pro-Slavery Roots of the Modern Left

Which leads to that crap by Inez.

164 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:46:35am

Inez found one slaveocrat thinker that espoused what appeared to be socialist policies who was buddies with Calhoun therefore liberals being socialists (cough) are really slaveocrats tooo!!!!

165 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:47:24am

re: #163 Gus

Fight the good Fight ‏@morehouse64 16h
The Very Best Form of #Socialism:The Pro-Slavery Roots of the Modern Left

Which leads to that crap by Inez.

I actually read the whole big pile of Derp. And she has the chutzpah to call LIBRULS “incoherent”?

This is what you get when you slave (there’s “that word” again!) all day in the Quote Mine.

166 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:47:52am

Let’s go back to the roots of the Catholic Church then and talk about those wild and crazy crusades. And. SLAVERY.

167 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:48:01am

Up to 13: More women accuse Bob Filner

Two more women are accusing embattled San Diego Mayor Bob Filner of sexual harassment, bringing the number to 13.

Veterans Eldonna Fernandez and Gerri Tindley join the other 11 women who have publicly accused Filner of unwanted sexual advances, CNN reports.

168 Internet Tough Guy  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:48:20am

re: #161 Gus

Needs more racism.

169 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:48:38am

Breaking: The pro-slavery roots of the old testament. Developing.

170 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:48:55am

re: #161 Gus

VOTING IS JUST LIKE SLAVERY!!!1!!

171 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:49:08am
172 Bubblehead II  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:50:00am

Sun Valley was birthplace of Washington Post-Amazon deal

Amazon founder and CEO Jeff Bezos and The Washington Post Co.’s Donald Graham used Allen & Co.’s media conference in Sun Valley last month to solidify the sale of one of the country’s most venerable news organizations.

Reuters reports that the $250 million deal was agreed to after just two meetings during the July conference in Idaho’s most well known mountain resort community.

173 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:50:06am

Is Slavery really over simply because Black Americans voluntarily wear the chains Democrats have them wrapped in

174 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:51:57am

YEAH THAT WOULD TOTALLY WORK.//

175 Dave In Austin  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:54:09am

re: #170 Vicious Babushka

It’s a Groundswell I tell ya!!

176 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:54:40am


Let’s have a look:

George Fitzhugh - Sociology for the South

Sociology for the South, or, the Failure of Free Society (1854) was George Fitzhugh’s most powerful attack on the philosophical foundations of free society. In it, he took on not only Adam Smith,[7] the foundational thinker of capitalism, but also John Locke,[8] Thomas Jefferson, and the entire liberal tradition. He argued that free labor and free markets enriched the strong while crushing the weak. What society needed, he wrote, was slavery, not just for blacks, but for whites as well. “Slavery,” he wrote, “is a form, and the very best form, of socialism.”[9]

Fitzhugh believed that slavery reduced the pressure on the poor and lower classes; in other words, he advocated slavery for poor whites as well as blacks.[10] He also strongly opposed the racial doctrines of the time.

177 erik_t  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:54:52am

re: #174 Vicious Babushka

YEAH THAT WOULD TOTALLY WORK.//

Someone tell gramps that granny ran out of her meds.

178 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:56:08am

Also

Cannibals All!

Cannibals All!, or Slaves Without Masters (1857) was a critique further developing the themes that Fitzhugh had introduced in Sociology for the South. Both the book’s title and its subtitle were phrases taken from the writing of Thomas Carlyle, the Scottish social critic and a great hero to Fitzhugh’s generation of proslavery thinkers.[12] The aim of his book, Fitzhugh claimed, was to show that “the unrestricted exploitation of so-called free society is more oppressive to the laborer than domestic slavery.”[13]

Cannibals All! was a sharp criticism of the system of “wage-slavery” found in the north.[14] Fitzhugh’s ideas were based on his view that the “negro slaves of the South” were considerably more free than those trapped by the oppression of capitalist exploitation.[15] His idea to rectify social inequality created by capitalism[16] was to institute a system of universal slavery, based on his belief that “nineteen out of every twenty individuals have… a natural and inalienable right to be slaves.”[17]

Fitzhugh’s ideas in Cannibals All!, while often used in the defense of anti-abolition, have a more socially egalitarian undertone which attempted to remedy inequalities in “Property of man.”[18] His ideas of reform could be seen in terms of a non-Marxist socialist ideology.[19] The extremes advocated by Fitzhugh’s writing led even some of his allies to denounce his bold claims. Fitzhugh was also an advocate of women’s rights. In Cannibals All!, he asserts that women deserve the right to vote.

179 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:56:58am

“…nineteen out of every twenty individuals have… a natural and inalienable right to be slaves.”

He seems nice.

180 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:57:24am

re: #176 Gus

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Let’s have a look:

George Fitzhugh - Sociology for the South

THAT’S WHAT OBAMA WANTS!!11!! OBAMA WANTS EVERYBODY TO BE TEH SLAVES FOR OBAMACARE AND WELFARE AND FOOD STAMPS AND TEH YOONYUNZ AND DETROIT!!!11!!!!!!!!

181 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:58:33am

re: #178 Gus

Also

Cannibals All!

U INCOHERENT HISTORY DENIER!!11!1 #LOLFAIL #SELFABSORBEDNARCISSIST #LIBRULSARERETARDED

182 Ian G.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:59:25am

re: #161 Gus

Yup, just like the slavery of old white people voting GOP in exchange for Paul Ryan promising not to gut Medicare and Social Security for their age cohort.

And I guess it’s not slavery when Exxon Mobil gets generous subsidies from Uncle Sam in exchange for campaign contributions. That’s more like mafia shakedowns.

Wingnut logic.

183 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:00:26am

He argued that “the negro is but a grown up child” who needs the economic and social protections of slavery.

See! Slavery is a form of socialism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

184 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:01:08am

Does this mean Ariel Castro is a socialist?

185 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:02:05am

“Slavery, he contended, ensured that blacks would be economically secure and morally civilized.”

186 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:02:22am

re: #184 Gus

Does this mean Ariel Castro is a socialist?

HE IS TEH TYPICAL DEMOCRAT WHO VOTED FOR OBAMA!!!!111!!!!1

187 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:02:35am

Remember now that Thomas Jefferson had 200 slaves.

188 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:03:55am

BTW all these comments in Wingnut font represent actual Derp seen on Teh Twitters.

189 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:04:48am

re: #188 Vicious Babushka

BTW all these comments in Wingnut font represent actual Derp seen on Teh Twitters.

Yep.

190 Mattand  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:05:27am

So, even when Romney appears to be approaching an actual common sense idea:

Romney Warns ‘Our Party Would Suffer’ If Government Shuts Down

he uncorks this derp bomb:

“I badly want Obamacare to go away, and stripping it of funds has appeal,” Romney said at a private GOP fundraiser in Wolfeboro, N.H., in remarks quoted by the Washington Post.

I mean, WTF? It’s amazing to watch a guy who set up mandated health care when he was MA governor insist that the ACA/Obamacare is bad.

I’m absolutely blown away by the sheer magnitude of self-delusion it takes to hold that view.

MA’s mandate and the ACA are basically the same, fucking thing. I just don’t get it.

191 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:06:32am

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

192 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:07:35am

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

193 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:07:58am

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

194 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:08:05am

Roots.

195 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:09:10am

It’s not about justice or an equal society. It’s about control.

196 Stanley Sea  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:09:57am

re: #161 Gus

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And he claims he isn’t a racist I betcha. That graphic is so vile.

197 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:10:52am

re: #196 Stanley Sea

And he claims he isn’t a racist I betcha. That graphic is so vile.

Don’t you know the meme by now? TEH DEMOCRATS IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!111!!!

198 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:12:36am

In case you forgot who R TEH REAL RACISTS!!!11!!!

199 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:14:21am

Image: buOl9Of.jpg

200 Mattand  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:14:25am

re: #192 Gus

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

If the slave survives for a third day, the owner shall give thanks unto the LORD. Not two, for that shall be too few. Nor shall the day be five, for that number is too numerous.

Three shall be the day of rejoicing, and the owner shall prepare a feast. The feast will be glory unto the LORD, and it shall be replete with delicious repast. The people will feast upon the breakfast cereals, and the lunchables, and the goat livers, and the fruitbats, and the scrapple, and the mimosas with those adorable little umbrellas.

(Python 342:45-3.14 WTF)

201 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:15:41am

re: #199 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

To the Max.

202 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:16:51am

RT following the party line on Snowjob…

Kremlin: ‘Disappointing’ Obama decision to cancel Putin talks ‘clearly connected to Snowden’

rt.com

203 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:17:29am

GAH


Stephen Smoot.

204 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:20:34am

re: #203 Vicious Babushka

GAH

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Stephen Smoot.

Spawn. This should help the GOP. Thanks Breitbart! //

205 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:25:15am

re: #204 Gus

Spawn. This should help the GOP. Thanks Breitbart! //

Image: 2Lp6mMU.gif

206 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:27:13am

re: #205 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Image: 2Lp6mMU.gif

Gif! On my 4G card.

207 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:29:49am
208 Lidane  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:30:48am

Morning, Lizards! Brief mental health break in the form of the new Thor trailer:

Youtube Video

209 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:32:56am

FUCKER

210 Lidane  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:33:32am
211 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:34:34am

DERP

David T Breaker

212 Mattand  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:34:37am

re: #191 Gus

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

For the hell of it, I looked this up on Google specifically for religious interpretation/commentary. I’m wondering how people would interpret God telling slaves to suck it up and worship their master.

As usual, the apologists never fail to disappoint:

In the first century, slaves formed a distinct group within the society of the Roman Empire. Although they were the property of their masters, in practice this did not prevent many of them from experiencing a good deal of freedom and social mobility. Many earned a living or worked in partnership with their owners. Some actually held positions of authority within businesses or administrative posts in lower levels of the government. It was also not unusual for a slave to receive a good education. On the whole, the slaves in the churches of Asia Minor who heard Paul’s message lived in a time when conditions were improving. Nevertheless, the desire to be free of slavery was always present. It might be won by outstanding service. But some saw in the gospel a more direct route.

A minor quibble from me: THEY WERE STILL SLAVES.

I’ve actually paid more attention to the Bible as an atheist than I ever did as a lazy Catholic. The sheer amount of insane read-between-the-lines that people apply is overwhelming. I’m guessing it’s the same for the Koran, Torah, et. al.

If you draw strength from this stuff, have at it. It just seems like trying to apply Bronze Age stories in a world where we can walk on the freaking moon is a lot of work.

213 Internet Tough Guy  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:35:43am

re: #209 Vicious Babushka

A real conservative father would have told her the unvarnished truth - Erick obviously is an elitist RINO.

214 Mike Lamb  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:36:00am

So, is there a test to make sure derpes isn’t contagious? I read the tweets and whatnot that get re-posted here, and I get scared.

215 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:36:44am

HURR HURR!! ARE RELIGULUS FREEDUMZ IS BEIN’ HURTED BY TEH GHEY!!!111!!

216 Mattand  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:37:37am

re: #209 Vicious Babushka

FUCKER

My 7yo this morning said she wanted the new Barbie and the Pink Shoes movie. I laughed and laughed and laughed. Couldn’t tell her why.

Yes, you can. Daddy is a sexist pig who uses children’s toys to justify his twisted worldview.

See? Simple.

217 Lidane  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:39:46am

re: #215 Vicious Babushka

Exactly how does gay marriage infirnge on religious liberty? Last I checked, no one was forcing religious groups to marry gay people.

218 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:43:07am

re: #217 Lidane

Exactly how does gay marriage infirnge on religious liberty? Last I checked, no one was forcing religious groups to marry gay people.

I seem to recall Bryan Fischer derping about some church in the UK that was sued by a gay couple for not performing their wedding ceremony.

Except that the UK HAS AN OFFICIAL STATE CHURCH.

BUT TEHY RR BEIN FORCED TO BAKE TEH GHEY WEDDING CAKE!!11!!

219 gwangung  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:43:40am

Hmmm….looks like Pam Geller has a recruit in the media in Chicago….

suntimes.com

220 Mattand  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:44:22am

re: #217 Lidane

Exactly how does gay marriage infirnge on religious liberty? Last I checked, no one was forcing religious groups to marry gay people.

Every time I see some piece of derp from guys like Erickson and Fischer (and it’s almost always guys), all I can think of is Greg Stillson, the religious fanatic from Stephen King’s The Dead Zone.

We are so fucked if guys like these keep gaining power. A 16th century worldview lumbering around with 21st century tech.

221 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:44:55am

Hasan is trying to become a martyr…

222 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:45:53am
223 erik_t  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:46:31am

re: #222 Vicious Babushka

That’s not a very nice thing to call John Boehner.

224 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:50:28am

re: #212 Mattand

When looking at this also remember that this is one of the “epistles” that was written in Paul’s name, not by Paul. There is a rather large difference between the letter to Phieimon (where Paul was talking about an actual slave and arguing his owner should set him free) as opposed to Timothy 1 & 2 and Titus which were written much later to codify Roman cultural standards in the young church instead of the earlier Jewish cultural standards of the earliest church. Accepting them in the Canon was the 2nd largest mistake made by early Christians; the biggest being accepting the hallucinations of John of Patmos in the Canon.

225 Internet Tough Guy  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:51:07am

re: #217 Lidane

Because gay-bashing is a fundamental religious right.

It’s even more important the right to pray, or own slaves.

226 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:51:31am

So excited about Teh Derp!

227 Internet Tough Guy  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:54:11am

re: #226 Vicious Babushka

Why do I have a hard time seeing Inez voting for Lincoln in 1860?

228 erik_t  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:57:10am

re: #227 Internet Tough Guy

Why do I have a hard time seeing Inez voting for Lincoln in 1860?

Well, aside from the rich white people not letting her kind vote.

Hmm. Doesn’t sound familiar.

229 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:58:21am

Pres Obama schedules visit to Sweden instead of with Putin.

Obama cancels meeting with Putin amid Russia tensions

worldnews.nbcnews.com

230 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:58:44am

Cuteness break:

Youtube Video

231 Lidane  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 8:59:45am

OUTRAGE!

232 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:00:15am

From George Fitzhugh’s Sociology for the South, or, The Failure of Free Society, 1854:

Pages 27-28: The dissociation of labor and disintegration of society, which liberty and free competition occasion, is especially injurious to the poorer class; for besides the labor necessary to support the family, the poor man is burdened with the care of finding a home, and procuring employment, and attending to all domestic wants and concerns. Slavery relieves our slaves of these cares altogether, and slavery is a form, and the very best form, of socialism. In fact, the ordinary wages of common labor are insufficient to keep up separate domestic establishments for each of the poor, and association or starvation is in many cases inevitable. In free society, as well in Europe as in America, this is the accepted theory, and various schemes have been resorted to, all without success, to cure the evil. The association of labor properly carried out under a common head or ruler, would render labor more efficient, relieve the laborer of many of the cares of household affairs, and protect and support him in sickness and old age, besides preventing the too great reduction of wages by redundancy of labor and free competition. Slavery attains all these results. What else will?

233 Ian G.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:05:30am

re: #221 NJDhockeyfan

Yet another reason to oppose capital punishment. It gives jihadis what they want.

Lock him up in Leavenworth forever. Don’t give him the satisfaction.

234 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:06:11am

Oh look. Joshua Treviño did this in 2009.

A Southern socialism.
by Joshua Treviño on 19 May 2009 * 3 comments

235 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:07:51am

US State Department response to unspecified al-Qaida threat

US officials say Yemen’s claim about disrupting an al-Qaida terror plot is unrelated to ongoing threat against western interests - @NBCNews

14 mins ago by editor

236 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:08:07am

re: #233 Ian G.

Yet another reason to oppose capital punishment. It gives jihadis what they want.

Lock him up in Leavenworth forever. Don’t give him the satisfaction.

Solitary confinement or in the general population would be fine with me.

237 Ian G.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:08:47am

You know, there is something to be said for slavery being like the most extreme forms of left-wing totalitarianism like we had under Stalin and Mao (and like we still have in North Korea).

Still, who in their right mind (which excludes the majority of the GOP) thinks the center-right technocrats of the modern Democratic Party are anything like Kim Il-Sung?

238 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:12:27am

re: #232 Gus

From George Fitzhugh’s Sociology for the South, or, The Failure of Free Society, 1854:

Is there any direct line of influence of Fitzhugh to anyone in the present day? Fitzhugh seems to have been regarded by everyone as a total crackpot. It would be like some historian in 2213 claiming that Pat Buchanan was the true voice of the Republican party.

Oh wait.

239 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:12:53am

re: #235 Justanotherhuman

US State Department response to unspecified al-Qaida threat

US officials say Yemen’s claim about disrupting an al-Qaida terror plot is unrelated to ongoing threat against western interests - @NBCNews

14 mins ago by editor

“The US forced Yemen to create a false-flag terror plot so critics of the NSA domestic surveillance program would be silenced!”
~ Glenn Greenwald

240 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:15:34am

Look at what I found on my own website:

THE BIBLE VIEW OF SLAVERY by Rabbi Morris J. Raphall, 1861.

And a rebuttal.

And another rebuttal.

241 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:16:18am
242 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:17:14am

re: #238 Vicious Babushka

Is there any direct line of influence of Fitzhugh to anyone in the present day? Fitzhugh seems to have been regarded by everyone as a total crackpot. It would be like some historian in 2213 claiming that Pat Buchanan was the true voice of the Republican party.

Oh wait.

Coupled with the technocratic features of the Confederate Constitution (also elaborated upon by Stephens in the “Cornerstone” speech), the heritage of American Progressivism in this light assumes an altogether more sinister — and today, highly relevant — cast.
— Joshua Treviño

243 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:17:33am

So. Fucking. Stupid.

244 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:18:17am

re: #241 NJDhockeyfan

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Damn socialists are at it again!

//

245 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:18:45am

re: #242 Gus

Coupled with the technocratic features of the Confederate Constitution (also elaborated upon by Stephens in the “Cornerstone” speech), the heritage of American Progressivism in this light assumes an altogether more sinister — and today, highly relevant — cast.
— Joshua Treviño

WTF does that even MEAN?

246 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:19:32am

And now, some brain bleach

247 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:19:37am

re: #245 Vicious Babushka

WTF does that even MEAN?

The Confederate Constitution had technocratic features just like today’s Democrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!

248 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:20:18am

re: #226 Vicious Babushka

So she’s equating a famous Southern-slavery, Confederate apologist to 21st century multicultural, pluralist-liberalism? Um, OK.

249 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:20:57am

Unlike Lincoln who created the massive Department of Agriculture. Nope. That’s not a technocratic feature.

250 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:21:05am

Argle bargle.

251 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:21:16am

re: #241 NJDhockeyfan

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Atrocious. That this kind of shit goes on in 2013 just breaks my heart.

252 Bubblehead II  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:22:32am

Navy Drops Plans to Repair USS Miami Sub

PORTLAND, Maine — The Navy has decided to scrap the USS Miami instead of repairing the nuclear-powered submarine because of budget cuts accompanied by growing costs of repairing damage from a fire set by a civilian worker at Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, officials said Tuesday.

And the dip-shit that torched Her only got 17 years.

A shipyard worker, Casey James Fury, of Portsmouth, N.H., was sentenced to 17 years in prison after admitting he set fire to the Miami, which was in dry dock during a 20-month overhaul at the Kittery shipyard.

253 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:23:34am

Socialist-slaveholder author George Fitzhugh said socialism a lot and socialism equals Democrats therefore Democrats are socialist-slaveholders.

255 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:25:13am

Remember now how that Kinist at CPAC was babbling about how good slaves had it back in the day.

256 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:25:18am

re: #245 Vicious Babushka

WTF does that even MEAN?

In contrast to the equality-loving, hedonistic, atheistic liberal North, the southern Confederacy was founded upon and recognized the virtues of a hierarchical, patriarchical, non-equal, slavery-based society, which was just like today’s liberalism because shut up.

257 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:25:48am

Don’t worry Inez I’ll send u a Grumpy Cat.

258 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:26:02am

Snowden is waiting for his: Image: RussiaWithLove-350x209.jpg

259 Dr. Matt  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:26:20am

I refuse to click on GGs twitter profile, but did he find a way to make the President’s appearance on Leno about him?

260 Lidane  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:26:57am

re: #251 Eclectic Cyborg

Atrocious. That this kind of shit goes on in 2013 just breaks my heart.

Also happening in 2013:


But racism doesn’t exist anymore.

261 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:27:52am

re: #260 Lidane

Also happening in 2013:

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But racism doesn’t exist anymore.

BUT TEH DEMOCRATS IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!11111 IF U SAY SOMETHING IS RACIST TAHT MAKE U TEH RACIST11!!!!!!

262 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:28:19am

Heh. PED investigation by MLB involved tracking down Facebook posts, posted photo, instant messages, and other electronic communications. When MLB went to the union and the players involved, they had stacks of evidence showing complicity with Bosch.

Facebook enabled the investigators to link individuals to players and created a web of links that they could track down.

263 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:28:34am

re: #259 Dr. Matt

The fact that Jay Leno didn’t wear a Snowden mask is proof that Leno is a total tool and is working to silence GG and Snowden. //

264 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:28:36am

Henry Ford was a bigot therefore if you drive a Ford today you’re a bigot apologist!

//

265 Lidane  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:28:38am

re: #257 Vicious Babushka

Too many uninteresting, incoherent words.

266 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:29:13am

re: #260 Lidane

Also happening in 2013:

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But racism doesn’t exist anymore.

Good God, that’s nearly enough to bring tears to my eyes.

We’re all HUMAN BEINGS DUMBASSES!!

267 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:30:05am

re: #265 Lidane

Too many uninteresting, incoherent words.

268 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:30:14am

Lee Atwater… Welfare queens… Southern Strategy… Southern Avenger…

Just sayin’.

269 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:30:36am

re: #259 Dr. Matt

Has Leno invited GG on his show? If not, it proves an effort to silence him. /

270 Dr. Matt  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:30:43am

re: #263 Bulworth

The fact that Jay Leno didn’t wear a Snowden mask is proof that Leno is a total tool and is working to silence GG and Snowden. //

Leno is another croc-wearing Obama twitter legion drone!

271 darthstar  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:30:46am

Listening to MSNBC on the way to work this morning, I heard this gem from Michael Steele:

272 Lidane  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:32:18am

re: #271 darthstar

When Michael Steele comes across as a more rational, competent party chair, you know the GOP is fucked.

273 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:32:32am

re: #257 Vicious Babushka

Because it’s the left’s job to respond to every tweet from Inez. //

274 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:34:05am

re: #273 Bulworth

Because it’s the left’s job to respond to every tweet from Inez. //

But when we do respond she says she doesn’t want any critique from us.

275 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:36:05am

IntellectualSkeletonsUncovered?

re: #234 Gus

Oh look. Joshua Treviño did this in 2009.

A Southern socialism.
by Joshua Treviño on 19 May 2009 * 3 comments

276 Lidane  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:36:31am

re: #274 Vicious Babushka

But when we do respond she says she doesn’t want any critique from us.

Some days I really wonder about the modern RWNJs. They claim to want to engage liberals in a debate over ideas, but when you question their ideas they clam up, block you, or call you a meanie doodie-head.

They’re utterly spineless.

277 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:37:45am

And now for something completely different…

David Brock backs RNC’s call for NBC, CNN to pull Hillary Clinton films

In an unexpected bipartisan alliance, the liberal watchdog Media Matters For America is planning to back the Republican National Committee’s campaign to pressure NBC and CNN into canceling their respective Hillary Clinton film projects, POLITICO has learned.

On Tuesday evening, Media Matters founder and longtime Clinton ally David Brock will send letters to the leadership at NBC Entertainment and CNN International expressing support for RNC chairman Reince Priebus and his pledge to pull the two networks’ rights to moderate or sponsor Republican primary debates unless they pull their film projects.

Brock’s motive is different from Priebus’s, of course. In addition to heading MMFA, Brock is the chairman of American Bridge super PAC, which recently launched an effort called “Correct the Record” to protect Clinton and other Democrats from “Republican smears.” In his letters to NBC and CNN, Brock suggests that the “right-wing noise machine” is already pressuring those networks “to adopt its ideological lens on Clinton.”

“Given that this project could coincide with a potential Clinton campaign, the timing raises too many questions about fairness and conflicts of interest ahead of the 2016 election,” Brock writes in letters to both NBC Entertainment chairman Robert Greenblatt and CNN Worldwide president Jeff Zucker, which were obtained by POLITICO.

278 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:38:08am

re: #276 Lidane

Some days I really wonder about the modern RWNJs. They claim to want to engage liberals in a debate over ideas, but when you question their ideas they clam up, block you, or call you a meanie doodie-head.

They’re utterly spineless.

They just want to swap insults.

It’s so juvenile.

279 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:38:35am

*sigh*

280 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:39:17am

re: #278 Vicious Babushka

They just want to swap insults.

It’s so juvenile.

“My God’s better than your God!”

281 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:39:32am

re: #275 Gus

IntellectualSkeletonsUncovered?

Never got around to it:

At some point I’ll make the effort to move this ideological lineage forward to Woodrow Wilson, but it won’t be soon.

282 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:40:05am

re: #275 Gus

IntellectualSkeletonsUncovered?

Any plagiarism?

283 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:40:35am

How come no lefty liberals are responding to my tweet?

After response

Because you’ve proven yourself unserious and unsincere and not as historically smart as me I won’t engage with any responses. So I and Conservatives everywhere win.

284 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:41:21am

re: #282 Vicious Babushka

Any plagiarism?

Thought about that but haven’t really scrubbed.

285 Dr. Matt  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:45:30am

Santorum: Liberals ‘make it uncomfortable’ to shower at the YMCA

WTF? Why are teatards do damned creepy?

286 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:46:07am

Confederate Flag = Socialist Flag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

287 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:50:04am

what. the. fuck.

288 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:50:23am

Schumer: Putin stuck a knife into the U.S.

(CNN) - President Barack Obama canceled a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow next month, according to a White House official.

The decision came not long after Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer reiterated his call for the White House to reconsider the scheduled summit, following the country’s decision to grant temporary asylum to NSA leaker Edward Snowden.

…”Look, Putin doesn’t deserve the respect after what he’s done with Snowden,” the senator said. “He goes out of his way to stick the knife into the United States.”

I think we’re gonna need a bigger reset button.

289 darthstar  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:52:03am

I’ll have to try this next time I get a spam text.

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290 Dr. Matt  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:52:43am
291 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:53:01am

re: #287 Vicious Babushka

what. the. fuck.

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292 darthstar  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:54:05am

re: #289 darthstar

I’ll have to try this next time I get a spam text.

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Only without the violence part.

293 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:54:30am

re: #291 Gus

The Pursuit of Happiness Fabric
This hunky Uncle Sam fabric is sure to bring a smile to recipients and sewing enthusiasts alike

Do they have a corresponding fabric featuring Betsey Ross, Martha Washington, Abigail Adams, Sally Hemings?

294 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:54:41am

A Henry Fabric The Pursuit of Happiness Uncle Sam Pin Ups Drummers Flag

This is a top of the line fabric from The Alexander Henry Fabric collection called “the pursuit of happiness “. 100% cotton. 44/45” wide. The fabric has a white background with different sized George Washington Type Pin-Ups!! There is an all over repeat pattern of Pin-Up Hunks. They are all dressed in U.S.A. early American solider uniforms — we see the men with drums, flutes and the American Flag, Uncle Sam pointing his finger saying “I Want You to Love Your Country.” Another Hunk resembles George Washington with the words “Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness in red letters next to him. We see tiny stars scattered all around the pin up Hunks! Very Fun! This is great fabric for Quilts, Curtains, Pillows and More!!

295 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:55:24am
296 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:55:26am
297 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:55:43am

re: #291 Gus

Yeah, it’s fabulous!

298 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:55:58am

re: #293 Vicious Babushka

Do they have a corresponding fabric featuring Betsey Ross, Martha Washington, Abigail Adams, Sally Hemings?

Just dudebros.

299 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:56:20am

re: #295 Vicious Babushka

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SOCIALISTS!!!!!!!!!

300 Ian G.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:56:29am

re: #287 Vicious Babushka

what. the. fuck.

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Between this and her tweets about whiny men not wanting to be fathers because Al Bundy and Homer Simpson, I think she really needs to start looking to date/befriend guys from a different social circle.

301 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:56:54am
302 Ian G.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:58:22am

re: #295 Vicious Babushka

Of course, none of the 3 would be Republicans today. What do you think Teddy’s response to climate change denial would be?

303 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 9:59:07am

re: #302 Ian G.

Of course, none of the 3 would be Republicans today. What do you think Teddy’s response to climate change denial would be?

He was also very big on trust-busting and regulations.

304 Lidane  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:00:34am

Please proceed:

305 Dr. Matt  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:01:42am

re: #304 Lidane

Please proceed:

Bozell: GOP could have a presidential debate with Breitbart or Newsmax instead of NBC or CNN.
— Tim Graham (@TimJGraham) August 7, 2013

Ah, more of that GOP outreach we keep hearing about.

306 Lidane  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:06:20am


307 Dr. Matt  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:09:29am

Looks like some lefty agitators are trying to get Erick son of Erick put into twitter gulag

:)

308 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:10:46am

Dear Ms. Koch-head, I don’t know if this is the best guy for you to be quoting:

309 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:11:46am

re: #232 Gus

From George Fitzhugh’s Sociology for the South, or, The Failure of Free Society, 1854:

Did anyone think of asking Mr Fitzhugh whether the concept of unions and collective bargaining might have some effect on the income capabilities of the poor laborers?

310 erik_t  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:11:52am

We’ve… rehabilitated Herbert Hoover.

Somehow I am not surprised.

311 Lidane  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:13:18am

re: #308 Vicious Babushka

She must have some of David Barton’s history books.

312 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:13:53am

Gone With the Wind - Grand Rapids Classic Movies | Examiner.com

…George Fitzhugh, one of the Old South’s most prominent pro-slavery intellectuals, was engaged in this self-delusion when he wrote Sociology for the South. And Gone With the Wind’s conception of what the pre-war South was “really like” is a virtual carbon copy of Fitzhugh’s vision. GWTW’s antebellum South isn’t realistic, it’s a dream state born out of this self-delusion, a depiction of the South as the film’s aristocratic characters thought it really was. Like Fitzhugh, Gone With the Wind is concerned with the “character of the master.”

“Domestic slavery in the Southern States has produced the same results in elevating the character of the master that it did in Greece and Rome. He is lofty and independent in his sentiments, generous, affectionate, brave and eloquent; he is superior to the Northerner in everything but the arts of thrift.” — George Fitzhugh, Sociology for the South, 1854…

313 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:14:20am

Question for Inez: Can you name two prominent 20th century liberals who were influenced by George Fitzhugh?

YES!! HITLER & STALIN!!!!1111 HAHA GOT U LIBTARD!!111!! #BUSTED #PWN3D

314 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:14:43am

re: #253 Gus

Socialist-slaveholder author George Fitzhugh said socialism a lot and socialism equals Democrats therefore Democrats are socialist-slaveholders.

I somehow doubt that “socialism” in his vocabulary means the same thing as “socialism” in the current cultural vocabulary. A whole lot of political philosophy has been written and heavily discussed since then. Some Marx guy in particular.

315 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:17:32am

re: #312 Gus

Gone With the Wind - Grand Rapids Classic Movies | Examiner.com

Years ago, I wrote a review for Civil War Book Review on “In The Master’s Eye: Portrayal of Blacks and Women in Antebellum Literature”

I’ll have to look it up and see what it says about Fitzhugh, although it mainly focused on works of fiction.

316 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:17:33am

re: #314 Feline Fearless Leader

I somehow doubt that “socialism” in his vocabulary means the same thing as “socialism” in the current cultural vocabulary. A whole lot of political philosophy has been written and heavily discussed since then. Some Marx guy in particular.

Many of those who run around shrieking “SOCIALISM!” have little idea of what socialism actually is. Chiefly, a system where the workers own and control the means of production.

317 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:20:03am

re: #314 Feline Fearless Leader

I somehow doubt that “socialism” in his vocabulary means the same thing as “socialism” in the current cultural vocabulary. A whole lot of political philosophy has been written and heavily discussed since then. Some Marx guy in particular.

318 Lidane  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:21:40am

I should say I’m surprised by a bunch of so-called conservatives quoting a pro-slavery crank, but that would be a lie.

319 Lidane  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:22:18am

More proof that racism doesn’t exist in 2013:

320 Ian G.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:22:18am

re: #315 Vicious Babushka

“Gone with the Wind” is a fantastic piece of filmmaking, but its political slant is…..well, let’s just say that the next time I watch it, I’m doing a double feature with “Django Unchained” in order to wash the taste out of my mouth.

321 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:23:36am

re: #317 Gus

SOCIALIST, MARXIST, COMMUNIST, OBAMA, N-WORD, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE!!!111!!!!!

322 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:24:56am

re: #318 Lidane

I should say I’m surprised by a bunch of so-called conservatives quoting a pro-slavery crank, but that would be a lie.

The whole purpose of this little exercise is to establish a “connection” from Fitzhugh to modern progressives.

323 Lidane  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:25:36am

re: #322 Vicious Babushka

The whole purpose of this little exercise is to establish a “connection” from Fitzhugh to modern progressives.

While ignoring every bit of history between then and now. It’s cherry picking of the worst sort.

324 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:26:00am

Police and Wal-Mart investigate homophobic assault on Toddler

It was the kind of galling story that prompts the Internet into action:
a toddler boy really, really wanted to wear a hot pink ruffled headband out shopping with his mom. So he did. Then a burly fellow shopper snatched the accessory off his head, hit him, and called him by an anti-gay slur. “You’ll thank me later, little man,” the dude allegedly said.

The child’s mother didn’t tell store management or the police, and blogged about it. The post got attention, went viral, and was republished on the Huffington Post. You’ll notice that we’re not linking to it, though, because the post has been pulled from the Post and her personal blog taken down as well. That’s because some of the attention that comes from everyone sharing your story on Facebook is inevitably negative, and the mother didn’t cope well.

News outlets in central Florida report that on Monday, she was taken into custody at a psychiatric institution after expressing suicidal thoughts online. She was released late yesterday. She claimed that attention and actual threats to her family after the post became popular caused a mental breakdown.

Local police continue to investigate the incident, looking at surveillance footage from the store during the period of the alleged assault and insult.

What the hell is wrong with people?

I bet some of the individuals making threats against this woman will be preaching in a pulpit tonight.

325 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:27:44am

re: #323 Lidane

While ignoring every bit of history between then and now. It’s cherry picking of the worst sort.

It’s Quote Mining. One of Inez’s first Tweets to me after I said the article was total bullshit was BUT THOES R REAL QUOTES I FOUND IN A REAL BOOKZ!!11 U CAN’T SAY ITZ A FAKE QUOTE!!11!!!!

326 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:31:29am
327 darthstar  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:35:37am

Look who’s flinching!

328 Lidane  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:36:48am
329 Internet Tough Guy  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:38:00am

re: #326 Vicious Babushka

Someone remind me: Were the NYT’s sources cowards who sold American secrets for the low, low price of one year’s asylum in Russia?

330 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:38:09am

re: #303 Vicious Babushka

He was also very big on trust-busting and regulations.

Not to mention progressive towards labor rights and getting a fair wage. “The Square Deal” and all that.

331 Bubblehead II  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:38:59am

re: #324 Eclectic Cyborg

The veracity of this story is in question.

Was The Walmart Pink Headband Gay Toddler Bashing Story A Hoax?

“Now removed from her site claims included having survived 3 failed kidnapping attempts and 1 successful one; claiming to be a stewardess for an airline and quitting just weeks before the flight crashed twice in three months; that she was “meant to be in NYC on 9/11, but I cancelled last minute”; that she missed catching a train that later crashed… Other claims include suffering from Celiac disease, diabetes, lactose intolerance, BPD, manic depression, ADHD, and apparently her breasts are so spectacular they cause bar fights.”

332 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:41:18am

re: #331 Bubblehead II

The veracity of this story is in question.

Was The Walmart Pink Headband Gay Toddler Bashing Story A Hoax?

“Now removed from her site claims included having survived 3 failed kidnapping attempts and 1 successful one; claiming to be a stewardess for an airline and quitting just weeks before the flight crashed twice in three months; that she was “meant to be in NYC on 9/11, but I cancelled last minute”; that she missed catching a train that later crashed… Other claims include suffering from Celiac disease, diabetes, lactose intolerance, BPD, manic depression, ADHD, and apparently her breasts are so spectacular they cause bar fights.”

Munchausen Syndrome.

333 darthstar  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:41:31am

re: #331 Bubblehead II

The veracity of this story is in question.

and apparently her breasts are so spectacular they cause bar fights.”

I’m sorry, but we’ll need graphical proof of this claim before we can discuss the pink headband story further.

334 darthstar  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:43:29am
335 jaunte  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:45:20am

re: #319 Lidane

“We have gone back so many years,” Judy Burris told the Republic, arguing Obama had taken the nation back to pre-Civil Rights era levels of racism. “He’s divided all the races. I hate him for that.”

The Party of Personal Responsibility.

336 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:46:39am

Shorter Inez in slavery piece: A reductio ad absurdum Venn diagram.

337 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:51:26am

re: #336 Gus

Shorter Inez in slavery piece: A reductio ad absurdum Venn diagram.

Or a “slavery is bad, liberals are bad, let me cherry pick a connection between the two” diagram.

338 jaunte  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:51:28am

re: #275 Gus

Trevino’s head is still firmly in the same place.

339 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:53:53am

re: #337 Feline Fearless Leader

Or a “slavery is bad, liberals are bad, let me cherry pick a connection between the two” diagram.

Add 4 cups of Obama derangement.

340 darthstar  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:55:15am
341 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:56:51am

re: #257 Vicious Babushka

Don’t worry Inez I’ll send u a Grumpy Cat.

Haven’t had much response from the left yet. Too many words? t.co #IntellectualSkeletonsUncovered #tcot
— Inez Feltscher (@InezFeltscher) August 7, 2013

No. I think the reason is more “Don’t argue with a crazy person. They will just drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience”.

342 A Mom Anon  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:56:58am

re: #190 Mattand

I get it, he’s LYING. He’s desperately trying to remain in the spotlight because his giant ego won’t let him just STFU and go roll in a big pile of money so we don’t have to look at him. He knows he’s lying and he could give a flying fuck on a rolling donut how transparent he is.

343 Bubblehead II  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:58:45am

re: #332 Vicious Babushka

Munchausen Syndrome.

Had to go and look that up. So, since I learned something new today, it hasn’t been a wasted day. :-)

344 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 10:59:20am

re: #339 Gus

Add 4 cups of Obama derangement.

And they’ll have their Obama derangement converted to Democrat derangement by 2016.

345 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:00:04am
346 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:01:24am

re: #345 Vicious Babushka

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And back we go to subtly defending the Confederacy.

347 jaunte  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:01:25am

re: #345 Vicious Babushka

“Don’t you have something better to read than a bunch of crap from people who don’t like me? I mean that won’t make for much of an interview if I have to sit through reading after recitation of people calling me a racist.”

LIBERTARIANS NEVER APOLOGIZE!!!

348 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:01:41am

GACK

349 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:03:06am

I don’t remember the time when MLK stole a bunch of classified information and went to Russia.

350 jaunte  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:03:54am

re: #348 Vicious Babushka

Humblebragtweet.

351 Lidane  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:04:04am

re: #344 Feline Fearless Leader

And they’ll have their Obama derangement converted to Democrat derangement by 2016.

LOL no. They’ll just add it to the Obama derangement. ODS is a permanent feature of the GOP now. We’ll be hearing about how much of a tyrant he was for the next 50 years at least.

352 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:05:48am

re: #334 darthstar

353 Ian G.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:05:52am

re: #335 jaunte

The Party of Personal Responsibility.

Speaking of that, there was this guy I went to high school with who apparently was injured as a child and got a massive settlement from whatever company it was that was negligent. He just wasn’t able to touch the money until he turned 18. So what happened on his 18th birthday? He dropped out of high school and bought a pickup truck and decided he would make a living playing in punk rock bands.

Now, of course, he’s a wingnut. Personal responsibility.

354 Lidane  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:06:51am
355 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:07:17am

Were Breitbart commenters being their usual racist selves?

356 jaunte  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:08:03am

re: #349 Vicious Babushka

The article sort of skipped over the ‘willing to pay the price’ part.

Asked in interview with the Guardian whether Snowden was engaged in an act of civil disobedience, Lewis nodded and replied: “In keeping with the philosophy and the discipline of non-violence, in keeping with the teaching of Henry David Thoreau and people like Gandhi and others, if you believe something that is not right, something is unjust, and you are willing to defy customs, traditions, bad laws, then you have a conscience. You have a right to defy those laws and be willing to pay the price.”

357 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:08:19am

Inez changed her Twitter avi. She has some kind of Children-of-the-Corn dead eyes thing going on.

358 Lidane  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:08:40am

re: #353 Ian G.

The biggest wingnuts I know are people who had to be carried out of bars 10-15 years ago or who did some pretty crazy things.

It’s almost like they want to impose their personal issues and/or guilt over their actions on the rest of us. Pfft.

359 Ian G.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:10:29am

re: #356 jaunte

The article sort of skipped over the ‘willing to pay the price’ part.

Or the part where Gandhi and Thoreau reached out to vile dictatorships for support.

360 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:11:54am

It’s pretty sad but I think she has really bought into all this revisionist Derpshit and thinks that mining a bunch of random quotes is HISTORY.

HURR HURR SOME GUY SAID SLAVERY & SOSHULISM IN TEH SAME SENTENCE!!11!! THIS IS WHAT ALL LIBRULS THINK!!!!111

361 jaunte  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:13:12am

re: #359 Ian G.

I would expect Lewis to defend the principle of civil disobedience, but given who he is, his mentioning ‘being willing to pay the price’ should be seen as a pretty sharp critique of Snowden.

362 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:13:17am

re: #348 Vicious Babushka

GACK

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re: #356 jaunte

The article sort of skipped over the ‘willing to pay the price’ part.

What Jaunte said.

363 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:13:34am

re: #357 Vicious Babushka

Inez changed her Twitter avi. She has some kind of Children-of-the-Corn dead eyes thing going on.

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364 Internet Tough Guy  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:13:35am

re: #349 Vicious Babushka

You’ve never read MLK’s classic, “Letters from a Soviet Dacha”?

365 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:13:47am
366 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:14:15am

re: #364 Internet Tough Guy

You’ve never read MLK’s classic, “Letters from a Soviet Dacha”?

He must have deleted “Tweets From a Hong Kong Luxury Hotel”

367 b.d.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:14:30am

re: #348 Vicious Babushka

GACK

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Wow: Veteran civil rights campaigner says Snowden should “be willing to pay the price”

368 jaunte  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:14:52am

Argument from authority for $200, Alex.

369 b.d.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:16:14am

re: #365 Vicious Babushka

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Great, glad to see Mini-G chime in right on cue.

370 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:17:38am

I don’t know who is generating MOAR DERP, Inez or the Dudebros.

371 darthstar  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:17:46am

re: #345 Vicious Babushka

Rand Paul is pretty defensive:

Paul appeared on NPR’s “On Point” yesterday, interviewed by CNBC’s John Harwood, and got quite unusually testy when asked about his former aide and co-author, telling Harwood the host didn’t want “an intelligent discussion.”

When the host read from an item published by The Economist about “racist and nativist” elements within libertarian politics, Paul said, “Don’t you have something better to read than a bunch of crap from people who don’t like me? I mean that won’t make for much of an interview if I have to sit through reading after recitation of people calling me a racist.”

372 engineer cat  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:18:23am

re: #355 Vicious Babushka

Were Breitbart commenters being their usual racist selves?

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i take it they are participating in a group hug and vigorously absolving themselves of participation in republican racism

when the awful truth is staring you in the face, the denials of reality become ever more hysterical

373 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:18:28am
374 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:19:35am
375 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:21:05am

re: #371 darthstar

“Don’t you have something better to read than a bunch of crap from people who don’t like me? I mean that won’t make for much of an interview if I have to sit through reading after recitation of people calling me a racist.”

Rand is admitting there is so much stuff out there calling him racist that it would be boring to list them all.

376 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:21:23am

re: #368 jaunte

Argument from authority for $200, Alex.

377 geoffm33  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:22:18am

Hey all. Just getting caught up.

Whats the most outrageous outrage of the day?

378 b.d.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:24:54am

re: #373 Vicious Babushka

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OH NO! Dronez!

379 kirkspencer  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:26:50am

re: #285 Dr. Matt

Santorum: Liberals ‘make it uncomfortable’ to shower at the YMCA

WTF? Why are teatards do damned creepy?

(I know, late to this party.)

Actually this isn’t a teatard issue. It’s projection and self-blindness. People like Santorum are reacting as though the gay men will treat them as they treat women.

‘Can’t put women in men’s showers because the women will be sexually harassed/assaulted’ becomes ‘they might sexually harass/assault me.’

They can’t see the mirror they’re using but from my point of view it says a lot about them.

381 b.d.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:28:47am

re: #377 geoffm33

Hey all. Just getting caught up.

Whats the most outrageous outrage of the day?

Hard to narrow it down it really considering all the horrible things Obama has done today.

//

382 Lidane  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:39:32am
383 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:39:58am

re: #378 b.d.

But they’d apparently have no problem with Blue Thunder. Drones, however, give them the willies. /

384 geoffm33  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:41:34am

re: #382 Lidane

But, what has MLK Jr. done for GA Republicans lately?

385 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:41:48am

re: #377 geoffm33

Hey all. Just getting caught up.

Whats the most outrageous outrage of the day?

king5.com

Woman all pissy about a cafe owner criticizing her about her children dumping crumbs on the freshly cleaned carpets.

386 Lidane  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:42:01am
387 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:45:25am

re: #385 Feline Fearless Leader

king5.com

Woman all pissy about a cafe owner criticizing her about her children dumping crumbs on the freshly cleaned carpets.

WTF. You have a restaurant, customers are going to eat food and drink beverages and they MIGHT SPILL STUFF. Rip out the carpeting and install linoleum.

388 geoffm33  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:45:27am

re: #385 Feline Fearless Leader

king5.com

Woman all pissy about a cafe owner criticizing her about her children dumping crumbs on the freshly cleaned carpets.

Well, that takes the cake. What a nimrod.

389 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:49:10am
390 Internet Tough Guy  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:53:14am

I find Glenn’s definition of “bravely” fascinating.

391 EPR-radar  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:53:29am

re: #370 Vicious Babushka

I don’t know who is generating MOAR DERP, Inez or the Dudebros.

Different flavors of derp, perhaps. Inez appears to be a specialist in inventing ‘facts’ to support her position. GG et al. are more into ignoring real facts that don’t fit their narrative.

392 EPR-radar  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:53:59am

re: #390 Internet Tough Guy

I find Glenn’s definition of “bravely” fascinating.

Brave Sir Robin, without the mockery.

393 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:54:50am

re: #348 Vicious Babushka

He completely fucking distorts the quote.

Asked in interview with the Guardian whether Snowden was engaged in an act of civil disobedience, Lewis nodded and replied: “In keeping with the philosophy and the discipline of non-violence, in keeping with the teaching of Henry David Thoreau and people like Gandhi and others, if you believe something that is not right, something is unjust, and you are willing to defy customs, traditions, bad laws, then you have a conscience. You have a right to defy those laws and be willing to pay the price.”

394 b.d.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:57:29am

re: #390 Internet Tough Guy

I find Glenn’s definition of “bravely” fascinating.

Brave Sir Snowden ran away.

He bravely ran away away.

395 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:58:16am

Now we know who Inez wants to be when she grows up

396 b.d.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:58:21am

re: #389 Gus

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Snowden is the most wanted man of the US Government?

397 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:58:46am

For Inez:

398 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:58:58am

re: #396 b.d.

Snowden is the most wanted man of the US Government?

Nope, he isn’t.

399 Gus  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 12:01:05pm

For Inez:

400 darthstar  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 12:03:03pm

re: #396 b.d.

Snowden is the most wanted man of the US Government?

More than AQ’s #2!

401 Lidane  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 12:06:56pm

re: #390 Internet Tough Guy

I find Glenn’s definition of “bravely” fascinating.

And I find Glenn’s definition of “Most Wanted” hilarious. Really? We’re focused solely on Snowden and not worrying about anyone else out there?

402 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 12:12:41pm

re: #388 geoffm33


And people claim they want “privacy” but broadcast every single slight instead?

So tired of these public squabbles.

403 A Mom Anon  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 12:32:11pm

re: #295 Vicious Babushka

Oh that’s rich, coming from a party today that doesn’t give a fucking damn if our roads and bridges fall apart. Yeah, INVEST IN AMERICA you assholes, then maybe, just maybe I’ll believe a fraction of what you say. But noooo, keep that laser like focus on jobs, oh, wait, what was that? Waste of money, pork barrel spending you say? STFU. Stop abortion and Benghazi!! IRS, OMGHEWASBORNINKENYA!!!!! Shut. Up.

See, this is why I couldn’t do Twitter, I’d be a mess after the first hour. Sigh.

404 BeenHereAwhile  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 12:59:21pm

My introduction to being inside of a camera obscura was the second floor of our recording studio. The room was for the most part empty, approx 4,000 sq ft, and faced Broadway in downtown Macon GA.

Being familiar with the concept of photography and camera obscura, it was illuminating to stand in that dark room on that day, and watch traffic being projected through a tiny hole in the window covering; enlarged upside down and backwards on the ceiling and back wall. Realizing - that’s what took place inside my SLR.

Wow, hadn’t thought of that room in years.


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