Stephen Colbert on Marco Rubio’s Hazy Marijuana History
He’s worried it may set a bad example for his legions of young fans
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Justanotherhuman May 23, 2014 3:32:51pm |
The party that brought you “Just Say No”, first as a drug policy, then as an entire platform.
Bwahahahaha!
Did Marco indulge a bit when he was younger in the drug that built Miami? Oh wait, he was 16 when this happened, although his sister was never charged, just the BIL who is now out of prison and lives with Rubio’s mother in a house they co-own.
This is pretty funny:
Marco Rubio: “Cocaine Is Not The Answer!”
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Charles Johnson May 23, 2014 3:48:59pm |
Colbert gets off a couple of really good zingers in this one.
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Gus May 23, 2014 3:51:39pm |
Saturday's Telegraph - “Surge by UKIP throws Labour into poll crisis” #tomorrowspaperstoday #BBCPapers pic.twitter.com/E8HSLEpw5b— BBC News (UK) (@BBCNews) May 23, 2014
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Charles Johnson May 23, 2014 3:51:53pm |
Rubio’s evasive answers are a microcosm of what’s wrong with GOP - he thinks just covering up the truth is the best way to handle the issue. The excuse about his young fans being influenced because he’s so successful is a narcissistic fantasy. Kids are impressed by people who tell the truth instead of this transparent bullshit.
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wrenchwench May 23, 2014 3:52:12pm |
I’d like to see the audition tapes for the drink of water.
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EPR-radar May 23, 2014 3:53:02pm |
re: #2 Charles Johnson
Colbert gets off a couple of really good zingers in this one.
“Just say No” as the entirety of the GOP platform.
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thedopefishlives May 23, 2014 3:55:32pm |
re: #6 EPR-radar
“Just say No” as the entirety of the GOP platform.
Just Say No to drugs, immoral sex, race/gender equality, fair taxation, and human rights!
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Gus May 23, 2014 3:56:51pm |
The terrifying rise of #UKIP 1997 0 Councils 0 MPs 2001 0 Councils 0 MPs 2005 0 Councils 0 MPs 2010 0 Councils 0 MPs 2014 0 Councils 0 MPs— CJ de Mooi (@cjdemooi) May 23, 2014
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EPR-radar May 23, 2014 3:58:58pm |
re: #7 thedopefishlives
Just Say No to drugs, immoral sex, race/gender equality, fair taxation, and human rights!
It goes much farther than this.
Just say no to science.
Just say no to any trace of human decency.
Just say no to any policy proposal put forth by a Democrat, a liberal or a progressive (even if that policy was the GOP approach until yesterday).
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thedopefishlives May 23, 2014 3:59:36pm |
re: #11 EPR-radar
It goes much farther than this.
Just say no to science.
Just say no to any trace of human decency.
Just say no to any policy proposal put forth by a Democrat, a liberal or a progressive (even if that policy was the GOP approach until yesterday).
I was trying to think of more examples, but my brain’s a little fogged right now. I’m sure there’s more that can be added.
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Charles Johnson May 23, 2014 3:59:40pm |
re: #10 thedopefishlives
Who are these guys and why are they so scary?
UKIP is a nationalist party with unsavory views. Sort of a cleaned-up BNP.
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Gus May 23, 2014 3:59:55pm |
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thedopefishlives May 23, 2014 4:00:15pm |
re: #13 Charles Johnson
UKIP is a nationalist party with unsavory views. Sort of a cleaned-up BNP.
I kind of figured, but I’d never heard of them before so I wanted to make sure. Charming little lot.
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EPR-radar May 23, 2014 4:00:37pm |
re: #4 Charles Johnson
Rubio’s evasive answers are a microcosm of what’s wrong with GOP - he thinks just covering up the truth is the best way to handle the issue. The excuse about his young fans being influenced because he’s so successful is a narcissistic fantasy. Kids are impressed by people who tell the truth instead of this transparent bullshit.
Can anyone imagine a GOP apologist dealing in truth, even heavily spin-doctored truth?
They lie all the time for the exceedingly simple reason that lies are all they have.
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thedopefishlives May 23, 2014 4:05:41pm |
RE: my previous entry that part of the GOP platform is “Just Say No to immoral sex”, that should probably be amended to: Just Say No to immoral sex, unless you are a prominent white male Republican leader, in which case it’s fine if you keep a mistress or mistresses or even sleep with men, as long as you keep it under wraps, and even if it does come out, it’s not that big of a deal. But it is for everybody else, so Just Say No!
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wrenchwench May 23, 2014 4:15:14pm |
OFFS.
Enforced stupidity.
House GOP votes to ban the Pentagon from using funds to assess climate change's impact on national security. http://t.co/DQZTY3yStH— Jamil Smith (@JamilSmith) May 23, 2014
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thedopefishlives May 23, 2014 4:17:37pm |
re: #18 wrenchwench
OFFS.
Enforced stupidity.
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What the… Why the… I don’t get it. Look, I’ve made no secret that I’m agnostic on the “A” part of AGW, but even I think it’d be stupid not to allow our national security forces to spend money to study its consequences. Anti-science? This goes beyond that, this is … I don’t even know WHAT to call it besides anti-Democrat-ism.
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Decatur Deb May 23, 2014 4:19:40pm |
re: #18 wrenchwench
OFFS.
Enforced stupidity.
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Do you know how many GIs it takes to push an M1 Abrams all the way across Iraq?
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EPR-radar May 23, 2014 4:19:46pm |
re: #19 thedopefishlives
What the… Why the… I don’t get it. Look, I’ve made no secret that I’m agnostic on the “A” part of AGW, but even I think it’d be stupid not to allow our national security forces to spend money to study its consequences. Anti-science? This goes beyond that, this is … I don’t even know WHAT to call it besides anti-Democrat-ism.
Aggressive stupidity? I wonder if these pinheads even realize there’s a reason the militaries of the world have started to war-game a navigable Arctic ocean.
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wrenchwench May 23, 2014 4:23:55pm |
re: #19 thedopefishlives
What the… Why the… I don’t get it. Look, I’ve made no secret that I’m agnostic on the “A” part of AGW, but even I think it’d be stupid not to allow our national security forces to spend money to study its consequences. Anti-science? This goes beyond that, this is … I don’t even know WHAT to call it besides anti-Democrat-ism.
Four Democrats voted for it. Three Republicans voted against it. The language includes AGENDA 21!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!
None of the funds authorized to be appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to implement the U.S. Global Change Research Program National Climate Assessment, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s Fifth Assessment Report, the United Nation’s Agenda 21 sustainable development plan, or the May 2013 Technical Update of the Social Cost of Carbon for Regulatory Impact Analysis Under Executive Order 12866.
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thedopefishlives May 23, 2014 4:24:42pm |
re: #22 wrenchwench
Four Democrats voted for it. Three Republicans voted against it. The language includes AGENDA 21!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!
My head just asploded. I’m literally sitting here looking at the computer with an utterly boggled look on my face. What is this I don’t even.
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Charles Johnson May 23, 2014 4:25:37pm |
How I spent today: working on the code to make it possible to log in on more than one device simultaneously.
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Decatur Deb May 23, 2014 4:25:43pm |
re: #21 EPR-radar
Aggressive stupidity? I wonder if these pinheads even realize there’s a reason the militaries of the world have started to war-game a navigable Arctic ocean.
This is good for the Marines. A much larger part of the world will be in reach of an LCAC.
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thedopefishlives May 23, 2014 4:25:45pm |
More on the topic of Stephen Colbert, his new Emerald Pistachios commercials are a hoot.
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thedopefishlives May 23, 2014 4:26:41pm |
re: #24 Charles Johnson
How I spent today: working on the code to make it possible to log in on more than one device simultaneously.
That would be fan-freakin’-tastic.
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wrenchwench May 23, 2014 4:26:46pm |
re: #23 thedopefishlives
My head just asploded. I’m literally sitting here looking at the computer with an utterly boggled look on my face. What is this I don’t even.
It’s coal money, standing on two legs and talking.
The amendment, from Rep. David McKinley (r-w.va.)
But of course, money doesn’t talk, it swears.
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EPR-radar May 23, 2014 4:28:28pm |
re: #23 thedopefishlives
My head just asploded. I’m literally sitting here looking at the computer with an utterly boggled look on my face. What is this I don’t even.
This is the entirely predictable outcome of having a US House of Representatives cursed with a GOP majority.
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jaunte May 23, 2014 4:30:12pm |
Apollo 10 launched this week in 1969. This old photo is the greatest http://t.co/LT79YIByRa pic.twitter.com/5pPANaEXOQ
— pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) May 23, 2014
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wrenchwench May 23, 2014 4:32:23pm |
I think I've figured out how the NFL handles punishment, you guys: pic.twitter.com/fUCPgfcwpg— Tyler Conway (@tylerconway22) May 23, 2014
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The War TARDIS May 23, 2014 4:32:50pm |
I just found this on Wikipedia:
Exploration Mission 2 or EM-2 is scheduled to be the first manned mission of NASA’s Orion project, which is to restart manned exploration of the Solar System. It is to be launched as early as 2021 and will take a 2 person crew, for the first time, to a captured asteroid in lunar orbit.
There are so, so many ways this could go wrong.
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Charles Johnson May 23, 2014 4:33:44pm |
re: #27 thedopefishlives
That would be fan-freakin’-tastic.
Had to edit a lot of files to make it happen. Required rethinking some pretty basic infrastructure.
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Backwoods_Sleuth May 23, 2014 4:34:26pm |
re: #18 wrenchwench
OFFS.
Enforced stupidity.
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My congresscritter, Thomas Massie, an MIT graduate, voted for this crap.
spit
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Charles Johnson May 23, 2014 4:34:51pm |
Warning: the ‘Show Users’ feature may act a little weird while I work on this stuff.
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thedopefishlives May 23, 2014 4:38:18pm |
re: #34 Charles Johnson
Had to edit a lot of files to make it happen. Required rethinking some pretty basic infrastructure.
It’s funny how some of our initial architectural decisions, when revisited during feature upgrades, wind up touching so many points of impact.
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Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 4:38:40pm |
re: #24 Charles Johnson
How I spent today: working on the code to make it possible to log in on more than one device simultaneously.
Thank you!!!!
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Justanotherhuman May 23, 2014 4:39:07pm |
Good grief—that’s right up against I-85; I took that road a lot in the ’90s. I hope there are plenty of CCTVs on that lot.
Police: Bomb reportedly found in parking lot of BMW facility in South Carolina’s Spartanburg County, authorities on scene - @wyffnews4
Read more on wyff4.com
Nevermind. They’re now saying it wasn’t a “bomb”.
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EPR-radar May 23, 2014 4:39:42pm |
re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth
My congresscritter, Thomas Massie, an MIT graduate, voted for this crap.
spit
He’s just choosing to be stupid. It’s how to get ahead in the GOP these days.
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Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 4:45:20pm |
Having a Picnic tomorrow.
My contributions:
Potato salad. Gah I hate peeling those things, but am done.
Chicago style hot dogs. I’m doing my best from SoCal. Don’t have the poppy seed buns :( but I did get the neon relish from a local hot dog stand that makes original Chicago ones. I’m using Hebrew National because those are the only dogs I’ll ever use, not sure if that is Chicago style either.
My friends are going to love them though, I can guarantee it.
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Ryan King May 23, 2014 4:53:15pm |
Checked into a hotel room: there was a bottle of wine in there.
It’s almost like… they knew. They freaking knew.
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darthstar May 23, 2014 4:55:14pm |
re: #42 Ryan King
Checked into a hotel room: there was a bottle of wine in there.
It’s almost like… they knew. Then freaking knew.
Welcome to California.
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Killgore Trout May 23, 2014 5:05:29pm |
Pickety findings undercut by errors
Prof Piketty, 43, provides detailed sourcing for his estimates of wealth inequality in Europe and the US over the past 200 years. In his spreadsheets, however, there are transcription errors from the original sources and incorrect formulas. It also appears that some of the data are cherry-picked or constructed without an original source.
For example, once the FT cleaned up and simplified the data, the European numbers do not show any tendency towards rising wealth inequality after 1970.
Is it?
Vox:
Piketty’s own response here seems a little half-baked and it will be interesting to see what he comes up with when he has more time. For the moment, the FT’s strongest claims don’t seem all that clearly supported by their analysis. But the disagreement about UK trends is large and interesting.
While it’s quite natural for a journalist to emphasize the differences between his findings and those of a famous author, the most striking fact is how closely The F.T.’s analysis agrees with Mr. Piketty’s. Their preferred time series for the evolution of wealth inequality in the United States, Britain, France and Sweden are remarkably similar.
Even Pickety’s defenders don’t agree with the UK numbers. Is the difference “large and interesting” (vox) or “remarkably similar” (NYT)?The only thing they sort of agree on is Pickety’s initial defense was weak and the both hope for a better response later.
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Backwoods_Sleuth May 23, 2014 5:07:26pm |
re: #33 The War TARDIS
I just found this on Wikipedia:
There are so, so many ways this could go wrong.
So, we should just sit here safely on Earth and not try.
OK
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Killgore Trout May 23, 2014 5:10:08pm |
The Pickety thing sounds like something Nate Silver might be a good source for. Checked 538, nothing yet. I haven’t checked the site for a while, not much of interest going on there.
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Backwoods_Sleuth May 23, 2014 5:10:31pm |
re: #40 EPR-radar
He’s just choosing to be stupid. It’s how to get ahead in the GOP these days.
He’s a flaming Libertarian and one of Rand Paul’s proteges.
First thing Massie did after being elected was nominate Amash for Speaker of the House.
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Backwoods_Sleuth May 23, 2014 5:10:58pm |
re: #42 Ryan King
Checked into a hotel room: there was a bottle of wine in there.
It’s almost like… they knew. They freaking knew.
NSA…
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Backwoods_Sleuth May 23, 2014 5:12:06pm |
re: #47 Killgore Trout
The Pickety thing sounds like something Nate Silver might be a good source for. Checked 538, nothing yet. I haven’t checked the site for a while, not much of interest going on there.
The “Pickety thing” is really old news.
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wrenchwench May 23, 2014 5:13:21pm |
re: #41 Stanley Sea
Having a Picnic tomorrow.
My contributions:
Potato salad. Gah I hate peeling those things, but am done.
Chicago style hot dogs. I’m doing my best from SoCal. Don’t have the poppy seed buns :( but I did get the neon relish from a local hot dog stand that makes original Chicago ones. I’m using Hebrew National because those are the only dogs I’ll ever use, not sure if that is Chicago style either.
My friends are going to love them though, I can guarantee it.
They ain’t Chicago Style, but damn, they are good.
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Justanotherhuman May 23, 2014 5:13:25pm |
Photo: Thunderstorm moves into New York City, bringing possible flash floods - @EarthCam via @brianstelter
see original on twitter.com
33m
All airports in New York City on ground stop as severe thunderstorm hits city - @NYCAviation
End of alert
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thedopefishlives May 23, 2014 5:13:26pm |
re: #47 Killgore Trout
The Pickety things sounds like something Nate Silver might be a good source for. Checked 538, nothing yet. I haven’t checked the site for a while, not much of interest going on there.
Or maybe it’s just not a big deal.
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Killgore Trout May 23, 2014 5:14:05pm |
Looks like Mark Cuban was tried and convicted of outraging public sensitivities. He’s lucky his sentence was commuted and he gets lifelong probation.
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CuriousLurker May 23, 2014 5:15:30pm |
Outside my window, about and hour ago:
Sudden storm, hail the size of brussels sprouts, cats totally freaked out by loud bangs on window glass (it sounded a LOT louder than what you can hear on the video as I have about half a dozen windows).
It only lasted about 20 minutes. Still drizzling, but quietly now and no more hail.
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Killgore Trout May 23, 2014 5:16:06pm |
re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth
The “Pickety thing” is really old news.
Most of the articles are a few hours old. Sorry but I’ve been busy this afternoon unclogging a drain and missed it.
google.com
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jaunte May 23, 2014 5:17:10pm |
re: #55 CuriousLurker
hail the size of brussels sprouts
Can you give the readers in Texas a sports-based metaphor as well?
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Justanotherhuman May 23, 2014 5:17:22pm |
Wowser.
Purple lightning over NYC. pic.twitter.com/haq5d3w8si
— Rafat Ali (@rafat) May 23, 2014
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Justanotherhuman May 23, 2014 5:18:37pm |
The purple lightning was after this was taken…
Impressive T-storm rolling into NYC right now… this is the view from the Statue of Liberty via @EarthCam pic.twitter.com/bLUcDyPMOU
— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) May 23, 2014
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CuriousLurker May 23, 2014 5:19:26pm |
re: #57 jaunte
Can you give the readers in Texas a sports-based metaphor as well?
Hail the size of foosballs? Sorry, that’s all I’ve got. //
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Killgore Trout May 23, 2014 5:19:50pm |
It’s a bit early to draw conclusions about the FT’s report. But the disagreement over Britain is jarring. And given that Piketty’s book is seeking to make universal claims about the nature of capitalism, he’s going to need to provide a more detailed rebuttal.
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Justanotherhuman May 23, 2014 5:20:20pm |
re: #55 CuriousLurker
Outside my window, about and hour ago:
Sudden storm, hail the size of brussels sprouts, cats totally freaked out by loud bangs on window glass (it sounded a LOT louder than what you can hear on the video as I have about half a dozen windows).
It only lasted about 20 minutes. Still drizzling, but quietly now and no more hail.
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Will be lots of “hail damage repaired” ads tomorrow…
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Gus May 23, 2014 5:20:22pm |
I am outraged that you’re not outraged about something. //
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thedopefishlives May 23, 2014 5:21:25pm |
re: #64 Gus
I am outraged that you’re not outraged about something. //
You’re an outrageoholic. My prescription is a once-daily infusion of Rush Limbaugh until your brain melts and you become a vegetable. Sorry for the loss, but it’s preferable to the traditional remedy, which is a lead pill.
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freetoken May 23, 2014 5:22:20pm |
re: #62 Killgore Trout
These kind of scenes are played out over and over.
Some academic publishes something on a topic that gets hot.
Someone notices an error of some sort in a single publication.
Then the media runs with sensationalistic stories about the entire story collapsing.
I’ll note here that recognition of wealth inequality growth is not based on a single paper by a single person.
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jaunte May 23, 2014 5:22:58pm |
re: #64 Gus
Brussels sprouts are pelting a major eastern city and everyone just shrugs.
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Killgore Trout May 23, 2014 5:23:26pm |
re: #64 Gus
I am outraged that you’re not outraged about something. //
Somebody needs to be fired or lose their business. Unemployment is the only thing that soothes outrage.
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wrenchwench May 23, 2014 5:23:30pm |
re: #57 jaunte
Can you give the readers in Texas a sports-based metaphor as well?
Bicycle metaphors would be kind of lame.
Hail the size of quarter-inch ball bearings.
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Gus May 23, 2014 5:23:35pm |
re: #68 jaunte
Brussels sprouts are pelting a major eastern city and everyone just shrugs.
Why isn’t this in the headlines!?
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CuriousLurker May 23, 2014 5:24:20pm |
re: #59 Justanotherhuman
The purple lightning was after this was taken…
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Storms rolling in off the ocean are usually pretty dramatic & intimidating. When I lived in Atlantic City you could take cover inside one of the buildings or casinos along the boardwalk and watch them bearing down on you. It’s scary as hell—a big reality check whenever you’ve forgotten that humans are NOT such a big deal nor are we oh-so-in-control of things.
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thedopefishlives May 23, 2014 5:24:36pm |
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Ryan King May 23, 2014 5:25:24pm |
re: #68 jaunte
Brussels sprouts are pelting a major eastern city and everyone just shrugs.
Because they’re not caramelized in butter.
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CuriousLurker May 23, 2014 5:25:41pm |
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jaunte May 23, 2014 5:26:30pm |
Friday night, time to relax.
This is a Japanese Snow Monkey settles into a hot spring bath (via @Know) pic.twitter.com/iI1HYW2hA9
— Strange Real Animals (@StrangeAnimaIs) May 24, 2014
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Killgore Trout May 23, 2014 5:26:34pm |
re: #66 freetoken
These kind of scenes are played out over and over.
Some academic publishes something on a topic that gets hot.
Someone notices an error of some sort in a single publication.
Then the media runs with sensationalistic stories about the entire story collapsing.
I’ll note here that recognition of wealth inequality growth is not based on a single paper by a single person.
It’s interesting for me as a layman to poke around and try to figure it out. There’s a lot of variety of opinion even among Pickety’s defenders. I am reminded that the French were very unimpressed with his work and they were surprised to find the Americans liked it. Maybe the French were right.
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Ryan King May 23, 2014 5:27:15pm |
I noticed the FT stories with pics of Piketty have him… scratching his head.
And his response to the allegations… that story is behind registry.
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William Barnett-Lewis May 23, 2014 5:27:52pm |
You do realize, KT, that the Financial Times is economically conservative and has, like the WSJ, a vested interest in preventing the acceptance of information that might lead the exploited away from willingly accepting their roles as serfs? That their bias might have a greater impact on the truth of their story than any possible errors in Mr. Piketty’s work?
Or are you simply reading what you want to read into it since it’s by a skeery leftist who might reinvigorate those terrible OWS people and send you running to hide in your bed again?
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freetoken May 23, 2014 5:28:56pm |
Atavists, flocking:
DINO SKELETON TO GO ON DISPLAY AT CREATION MUSEUM
A new exhibit of a 30-foot-long fossil skeleton of an Allosaurus, which resembles a Tyrannosaurus rex, is set to open at a Kentucky museum that asserts dinosaurs lived alongside humans a few thousand years ago.
[…]
The Allosaurus, named Ebenezer, was donated to the museum by the Elizabeth Streb Peroutka Foundation, which purchased the bones over a decade ago.
Michael Peroutka, a member of the foundation and the Constitution Party’s candidate for president in 2004, said the fossil “is a testimony to the creative power of God in designing dinosaurs, and … it also lends evidence to the truth of a worldwide catastrophic flooding of the earth in Noah’s time.”
Panda’s Thumb summarizes about Peroutka:
Dinosaur fossil donor affiliated with hate group
More League Of The South crap.
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thedopefishlives May 23, 2014 5:32:12pm |
re: #83 Ryan King
Freedom! Liberty! Deep Fried Tater Morsels!
Dogs and cats living together!
/Oh wait
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Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 5:34:15pm |
re: #61 freetoken
If only it would rain here…
Yeah, we were threatened the last 2 days. Nope absolutely zero.
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CuriousLurker May 23, 2014 5:35:56pm |
re: #82 Gus
Gun grabbing tyrannical POTUS! No respect for the Constitution!
The oppression & persecution is unconscionable. //
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Justanotherhuman May 23, 2014 5:38:06pm |
Everyone getting rain except some who need it.
Street flooded at intersection of Canosa/7th in Denver. Fire hydrant nearly under water. #cowx #CBS4 pic.twitter.com/ROlYRp0pIv— Kelly Werthmann (@KellyCBS4) May 24, 2014
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Justanotherhuman May 23, 2014 5:38:31pm |
re: #87 CuriousLurker
Gun grabbing tyrannical POTUS! No respect for the Constitution!
The oppression & persecution is unconscionable. //
Remind me never to eat in that joint.
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Justanotherhuman May 23, 2014 5:41:34pm |
Manipulate trade much?
Goldman, JPMorgan sued over zinc prices
The case is Duncan Galvanizing Corp v. The London Metal Exchange, et al, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, No. 14-03728.
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Killgore Trout May 23, 2014 5:41:59pm |
re: #80 William Barnett-Lewis
You do realize, KT, that the Financial Times is economically conservative and has, like the WSJ, a vested interest in preventing the acceptance of information that might lead the exploited away from willingly accepting their roles as serfs? That their bias might have a greater impact on the truth of their story than any possible errors in Mr. Piketty’s work?
Or are you simply reading what you want to read into it since it’s by a skeery leftist who might reinvigorate those terrible OWS people and send you running to hide in your bed again?
So far the majority of Picketty defenders agree his UK numbers are seriously wrong and his initial response was lacking. I did read his book (most of it anyways) so I’m interested in learning how accurate it was.
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Lidane May 23, 2014 5:43:26pm |
re: #82 Gus
Once more with feeling: if you feel the need to strap a gun to your body when you go to eat a burger, maybe find a different place to eat? I’m having this discussion with a friend of mine on FB right now.
I saw a bunch of these open carry idiots yesterday when I was leaving the happy hour networking event I’d gone to. They were walking around with huge guns like that strapped to their bodies, waving flags that said COME AND TAKE IT AUSTIN! and looking like complete tools.
The funniest part to me, aside from the fact that they looked ridiculous, was that they were in a part of Austin filled with hotels, bars, and restaurants that have TABC licenses, meaning that by law, they aren’t allowed in the buildings anyway. They were stuck just wandering around like morons with these huge guns strapped to their bodies. WTF.
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NJDhockeyfan May 23, 2014 5:43:39pm |
Greg Cook hugs his dog Coco after finding her inside his destroyed home in Alabama following the tornado pic.twitter.com/Vp0OV7ADYQ— Powerful Pictures (@Powerful_Pics) May 23, 2014
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freetoken May 23, 2014 5:46:31pm |
Latest Guardian article about the “Islamic schools” outrage in the UK:
The Muslim ‘Trojan Horse’ schools frenzy hides a need for integration
Is it a witch-hunt? The investigation into a host of Muslim majority schools in Birmingham, Luton, Leicester, Bradford and elsewhere has a flavour of panic about it. Some with long memories compare it to the Cleveland child abuse alarm when more than 100 children were removed from their parents in the late 1980s, most later returned. Are children in these schools being trained up as future terrorists? That’s the tenor of the outcry.
[…]
The presence of one-third faith schools often unbalances the local intake. Park View is not a faith school but has 98% Muslim pupils. In many areas that happens when local Christian schools become white-flight refuges, leaving nearby state schools to become mainly Muslim.
What is needed is socially and religiously integrated education. All children should be taught religious education, learning about all religions. But what serious programme of sex education or prevention of homophobic bullying can there be in schools where most teachers adhere to ancient texts that punish gays? It’s hard to complain of some of the teachings in the Qur’an when Gove sends a Bible to every school, filled with the most extreme and bizarre prohibitions.
I think it is a good point to consider - what is happening is first a form of segregation. If the schools were better integrated then even accusations such as the “Trojan horse” allegations would not have arisen.
Yet another reason why I think the voucher madness in this country will end poorly.
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Killgore Trout May 23, 2014 5:46:56pm |
So far the NYT is the only one to claim his UK numbers are “remarkably similar” . Slate called the differences “jarring” Vox said the differences were “large and interesting”.
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wrenchwench May 23, 2014 5:49:27pm |
We got a ton of wind and a little rain yesterday. Elsewhere, they got the wind, but it was too dry, so they got dust.
Six people are dead and all that remained of the several vehicles involved in a fiery crash along Interstate 10 in southwestern New Mexico were charred hunks of nearly indiscernible metal.
New Mexico State Police said the crash in Hidalgo County, several miles from the Arizona border, came as New Mexico and the region was struck Thursday afternoon by a violent storm system.
Severe weather and large hail caused multiple car wrecks in northern New Mexico on Thursday and the eastern part of the state saw damaging winds reaching more than 60 mph.
Thick dust was reported in southern New Mexico on Thursday. Signs along the stretch of the interstate where the crash happened warn of dust storms.
[…]
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Killgore Trout May 23, 2014 5:50:19pm |
re: #94 freetoken
I think it is a good point to consider - what is happening is first a form of segregation. If the schools were better integrated then even accusations such as the “Trojan horse” allegations would not have arisen.
Yet another reason why I think the voucher madness in this country will end poorly.
The Islamist angle in the investigation is still dubious but it does seem that there was a very serious lack of oversight in their education program. The problems in these schools went on for a very long time without any action being taken. That’s unacceptable.
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CuriousLurker May 23, 2014 5:52:13pm |
re: #82 Gus
Hmm, I wonder what the reaction would be if some Muslim women wearing hijab showed up open carrying, like these female cops from Pakistan…
Okay, I lied. I don’t really wonder what the reaction would be,
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Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 5:53:21pm |
re: #96 wrenchwench
We got a ton of wind and a little rain yesterday. Elsewhere, they got the wind, but it was too dry, so they got dust.
Oh how horrible.
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Gus May 23, 2014 5:54:29pm |
re: #96 wrenchwench
We got a ton of wind and a little rain yesterday. Elsewhere, they got the wind, but it was too dry, so they got dust.
Looks like the road to Baghdad from the Gulf War.
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wrenchwench May 23, 2014 5:55:07pm |
re: #99 Stanley Sea
Oh how horrible.
Yeah, I heard about the wreck yesterday, but just now saw the photos. Yikes.
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goddamnedfrank May 23, 2014 5:55:53pm |
re: #79 Ryan King
I noticed the FT stories with pics of Piketty have him… scratching his head.
And his response to the allegations… that story is behind registry.
Here’s Piketty’s response to Chris Giles. Weird of FT to hide the article link to Piketty’s response behind the registry when the original blog entry doesn’t require it.
Edited: The trick is to click on the link in a google search. Here’s a google search for “Piketty response to Financial Times.” Click on the top link.
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Lidane May 23, 2014 5:57:27pm |
Oh fun. We’ve now gotten to the BANNING GUNS IZ IS DISCRIMINATION part of the discussion. We’re talking about Jack in the Box banning all guns from their restaurants, concealed or not, and this is the latest bit of derp I’m faced with:
Well, its kind of discriminatory in a way. If the state gives you the right, and a store says “we don’t want your kind here”, kind of like a bakery refusing to bake a cake for gay marrige, right?
*sigh*
I love my friends, but guns make some of them stupid.
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wrenchwench May 23, 2014 5:58:38pm |
Here’s my plan.
Flap. Repeat. Stay in the air— Crow, Streetcrow (@streetcrow) May 24, 2014
Later, lizards.
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EPR-radar May 23, 2014 5:59:09pm |
re: #102 goddamnedfrank
Here’s Piketty’s response to Chris Giles. Weird of FT to hide the article link to Piketty’s response behind the registry when the original blog entry doesn’t require it.
Nothing weird about FT making Piketty’s response harder to get to than the original FT criticism. Banking on laziness in the media is seldom wrong.
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Backwoods_Sleuth May 23, 2014 5:59:33pm |
re: #56 Killgore Trout
Most of the articles are a few hours old. Sorry but I’ve been busy this afternoon unclogging a drain and missed it.
google.com
beating. dead. horse.
the “pickety thing” is really OLD news.
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jaunte May 23, 2014 5:59:45pm |
re: #104 Lidane
Well, its kind of discriminatory in a way. If the state gives you the right, and a store says “we don’t want your kind here”, kind of like a bakery refusing to bake a cake for gay marrige, right?
It’s like when you’re sitting in a restaurant, next to a gay married couple, when one of them drops their marriage on the floor and it goes off, and suddenly another patron gets mortally gay married.
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goddamnedfrank May 23, 2014 6:00:42pm |
re: #102 goddamnedfrank
Edited. Reload for directions to Piketty’s response.
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CuriousLurker May 23, 2014 6:00:58pm |
re: #108 jaunte
It’s like when you’re sitting in a restaurant, next to a gay married couple, when one of them drops their marriage on the floor and it goes off, and suddenly another patron gets mortally gay married.
Hahahahahahaha…
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EPR-radar May 23, 2014 6:02:42pm |
re: #80 William Barnett-Lewis
You do realize, KT, that the Financial Times is economically conservative and has, like the WSJ, a vested interest in preventing the acceptance of information that might lead the exploited away from willingly accepting their roles as serfs? That their bias might have a greater impact on the truth of their story than any possible errors in Mr. Piketty’s work?
Or are you simply reading what you want to read into it since it’s by a skeery leftist who might reinvigorate those terrible OWS people and send you running to hide in your bed again?
First, pretend that Piketty is the only source of data on income/wealth inequality.
Second, find flaws in his work. Real ones are preferable, but imaginary ones will do if necessary.
Three, deny the reality of income/wealth inequality.
Four, increase inequality because the poor are too rich and the rich are too poor.
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Gus May 23, 2014 6:03:46pm |
re: #104 Lidane
Oh fun. We’ve now gotten to the BANNING GUNS IZ IS DISCRIMINATION part of the discussion. We’re talking about Jack in the Box banning all guns from their restaurants, concealed or not, and this is the latest bit of derp I’m faced with:
*sigh*
I love my friends, but guns make some of them stupid.
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goddamnedfrank May 23, 2014 6:03:50pm |
re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth
beating. dead. horse.
the “pickety thing” is really OLD news.
The “thing” is Chris Giles at FT purporting to have found errors in Pikety’s work. It seems more like he didn’t understand the methodology Piketty was using and simply asserted his own very problematic numbers instead. From Piketty’s response:
Finally, let me say that my estimates on wealth concentration do not fully take into account offshore wealth, and are likely to err on the low side. I am certainly not trying to make the picture look darker than it it. As I make clear in chapter 12 of my book (see in particular table 12.1-12.2), top wealth holders have apparently been rising a lot faster average wealth in recent decades, at least according to the wealth rankings published in magazines such as Forbes. This is true not only in the US, but also in Britain and at the global level (see attached table). This is not well taken into account by wealth surveys and official statistics, including the recent statistics that were published for Britain.
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Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 6:04:44pm |
re: #111 EPR-radar
First, pretend that Piketty is the only source of data on income/wealth inequality.
Second, find flaws in his work. Real ones are preferable, but imaginary ones will do if necessary.
Three, deny the reality of income/wealth inequality.
Four, increase inequality because the poor are too rich and the rich are too poor.
Fifth, feeding troll is harmful to blog.
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Gus May 23, 2014 6:05:14pm |
I tell ya. Not being able to drive around in a fork-lift at my local Safeway is just like discriminating against blacks.
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darthstar May 23, 2014 6:05:33pm |
Rescued a penguin this morning on the beach. Turns out I'm a bad influence. pic.twitter.com/sJGNvweUFQ— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) May 24, 2014
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Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 6:05:39pm |
Fuck it, I’m going to test one of these Chicago dogs.
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darthstar May 23, 2014 6:06:27pm |
re: #82 Gus
@JoyAnnReid you really can't call the places those gun nuts go “restaurants”— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) May 24, 2014
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darthstar May 23, 2014 6:06:54pm |
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thedopefishlives May 23, 2014 6:09:48pm |
re: #108 jaunte
It’s like when you’re sitting in a restaurant, next to a gay married couple, when one of them drops their marriage on the floor and it goes off, and suddenly another patron gets mortally gay married.
Okay, you win an Internet for that one. Very well done.
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Killgore Trout May 23, 2014 6:11:21pm |
re: #111 EPR-radar
First, pretend that Piketty is the only source of data on income/wealth inequality.
Second, find flaws in his work. Real ones are preferable, but imaginary ones will do if necessary.
Three, deny the reality of income/wealth inequality.
Four, increase inequality because the poor are too rich and the rich are too poor.
Or maybe there’s an error in his work. Why insist on believing something that might not be true? Wouldn’t it be best to learn if there’s a problem and how serious that problem might be?
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palomino May 23, 2014 6:12:31pm |
re: #78 Killgore Trout
It’s interesting for me as a layman to poke around and try to figure it out. There’s a lot of variety of opinion even among Pickety’s defenders. I am reminded that the French were very unimpressed with his work and they were surprised to find the Americans liked it. Maybe the French were right.
Wouldn’t be the first time in recent memory. Anyone remember the Iraq War?
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Ryan King May 23, 2014 6:16:38pm |
re: #108 jaunte
Just so you know, Wifey wanted to give you an upding but alas, she’s not registered.
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palomino May 23, 2014 6:17:42pm |
re: #54 Killgore Trout
Looks like Mark Cuban was tried and convicted of outraging public sensitivities. He’s lucky his sentence was commuted and he gets lifelong probation.
Do you actually know anything about the Mark Cuban situation? Or is this post the extent of your “thoughts” on the matter?
There’s a context I doubt you understand. It has to do with Cuban being the only NBA owner to come to Donald Sterling’s defense, though somewhat limited. That’s part of the reason Cuban is on the hot seat. Furthermore, Cuban has a long history of saying things to get attention. He carries on the “proud” tradition of sports team owners like Steinbrenner and Donald Trump.
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TedStriker May 23, 2014 6:19:29pm |
re: #82 Gus
Nothing says “freedom!” like carrying your rifles on your shoulders down to Sonic.
Fucking schmucks…
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Ryan King May 23, 2014 6:22:51pm |
re: #122 Killgore Trout
Or maybe there’s an error in his work. Why insist on believing something that might not be true?
I’m not insisting on believing in something that might not be true… I’m being balanced and not assuming something is true merely because.
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Lidane May 23, 2014 6:23:22pm |
re: #128 TedStriker
Nothing says “freedom!” like carrying your rifles on your shoulders down to Sonic.
Fucking schmucks…
They’ve gotta protect their tater tots and cheese and Route 44 drinks from the flies and bugs that are around outside.
It’s a dangerous thing, eating at Sonic. :p
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TedStriker May 23, 2014 6:24:13pm |
re: #96 wrenchwench
We got a ton of wind and a little rain yesterday. Elsewhere, they got the wind, but it was too dry, so they got dust.
Jesus…that looks a lot like the pictures of the “Highway of Death” from Gulf War I.
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Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 6:27:02pm |
re: #127 Gus
If a bullet cost 5K there’d be no innocent bystanders.
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Killgore Trout May 23, 2014 6:27:13pm |
re: #126 palomino
Do you actually know anything about the Mark Cuban situation? Or is this post the extent of your “thoughts” on the matter?
Nope, I don’t care what Mark Cuban thinks about anything. I’m sure he’s a nice guy but it’s not important to me.
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Killgore Trout May 23, 2014 6:29:04pm |
re: #129 Ryan King
I’m not insisting on believing in something that might not be true… I’m being balanced and not assuming something is true merely because.
I don’t know either. I don’t have the economic background to know if the criticisms are valid or not. It’s something to keep an eye on.
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Charles Johnson May 23, 2014 6:30:10pm |
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Lidane May 23, 2014 6:30:19pm |
re: #126 palomino
Mark Cuban has a long history of shooting his mouth off. If anybody is going to be a lightning rod in the NBA after Sterling, it’s going to be Cuban. He can’t help himself.
I think he’s wrong to defend Sterling, but I’m not surprised. He does have a point, though. We’re all prejudiced in our own ways, but it’s not always conscious. HOWEVER, he’s blurring the line between being prejudiced and being racist and they’re two different things. Cuban might have his prejudices like the rest of us, but Sterling was openly racist. That’s indefensible. Cuban is trying to thread a needle when he doesn’t need to.
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EPR-radar May 23, 2014 6:32:00pm |
re: #133 Killgore Trout
Nope, I don’t care what Mark Cuban thinks about anything. I’m sure he’s a nice guy but it’s not important to me.
What is important, apparently, is that the likes of Mark Cuban be allowed to do whatever the hell they want to do without even being criticized by normal people.
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Justanotherhuman May 23, 2014 6:33:49pm |
re: #138 EPR-radar
What is important, apparently, is that the likes of Mark Cuban be allowed to do whatever the hell they want to do without even being criticized by normal people.
Libertarians are like that.
There are plenty of examples of them out there. #1: Godwald.
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Gus May 23, 2014 6:33:49pm |
.@TxDPS @WendyDavisTexas Report: Threat to gubernatorial candidate Wendy Davis. https://t.co/A3jSrFirvm pic.twitter.com/WUkWzFdcsK— Gus (@Gus_802) May 24, 2014
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dog philosopher May 23, 2014 6:37:49pm |
re: #34 Charles Johnson
Had to edit a lot of files to make it happen. Required rethinking some pretty basic infrastructure.
i hate when that happens
‘thinking’, i mean
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RealityBasedSteve May 23, 2014 6:37:58pm |
re: #140 Gus
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yea… that’s somebody who’s going to get a visit from the men in the snap-brim fedoras.
ijiot.
RBS
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dog philosopher May 23, 2014 6:40:08pm |
what’s all this i hear about beating a dead trojan horse?
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Killgore Trout May 23, 2014 6:41:28pm |
re: #139 Justanotherhuman
Libertarians are like that.
There are plenty of examples of them out there. #1: Godwald.
Thankfully our courts still have the classical liberal interpretation of our founders. Classical liberals and progressives have different ideas about free speech.
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Ryan King May 23, 2014 6:41:29pm |
Because nothing says FREEDOM better than a guy in a mask with high powered assault weapons.
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goddamnedfrank May 23, 2014 6:41:48pm |
re: #137 Lidane
Mark Cuban has a long history of shooting his mouth off. If anybody is going to be a lightning rod in the NBA after Sterling, it’s going to be Cuban. He can’t help himself.
I think he’s wrong to defend Sterling, but I’m not surprised. He does have a point, though. We’re all prejudiced in our own ways, but it’s not always conscious. HOWEVER, he’s blurring the line between being prejudiced and being racist and they’re two different things. Cuban might have his prejudices like the rest of us, but Sterling was openly racist.
Sterling also displayed a blatant slave owners mentality.
“Who makes the game? Do I make the game, or do they make the game?”
“I give them food, and clothes, and cars and houses!”
I am certain that if NBA players decided to play at neighborhood community courts there’d be a massive audience. The players make the game, it’s their talent that draws the crowd, that creates the value and generates the revenue. Sterling and the other owners are just monopolistic rent seeking parasites, they add absolutely nothing of value and just siphon off the profits. The owners exploit sentiment in the cities their teams play in and command tax dollars pay for stadiums primarily dedicated to their use. The owners could all die tomorrow and “the game” would go on as if they had never existed.
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RealityBasedSteve May 23, 2014 6:42:11pm |
I’m going to SCUBA school tomorrow, start my pool training. Boy, has stuff changed a bunch in the 30-40 years since I first did it.
May also go to Lane Auto Museum, they are having an exhibit of Tatra cars and trucks.
RBS
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freetoken May 23, 2014 6:42:32pm |
Thunderstorm over the mountain - I can see darks skies in the east.
But here, not a drop.
The weather can be such a tease at times.
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Killgore Trout May 23, 2014 6:42:55pm |
re: #146 Ryan King
Because nothing says FREEDOM better than a guy in a mask with high powered assault weapons.
His next selfie will be from a jail cell.
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Justanotherhuman May 23, 2014 6:45:31pm |
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Killgore Trout May 23, 2014 6:46:49pm |
Speaking of outrage: Iranian actress apologises for hurt feelings after kissing 83-year-old Cannes film festival president on the cheek.
“I am so sorry for hurting the feelings of some people,” she wrote in a letter to Iran’s cinema organisation, cited by IRNA.
Hatami underlined her respect for Islamic rules of behaviour in public, but festival president Gilles Jacob, 83, “had forgotten the aforementioned rules, which comes with old age”.
…
A group of female Iranian students is seeking legal action against Hatami, calling for her to be sentenced to a jail term and lashed, according to the Iranian website Tasnim News.
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EPR-radar May 23, 2014 6:47:24pm |
re: #147 goddamnedfrank
…
I am certain that if NBA players decided to play at neighborhood community courts there’d be a massive audience. The players make the game, it’s their talent that draws the crowd, that creates the value and generates the revenue. Sterling and the other owners are just monopolistic rent seeking parasites, they add absolutely nothing of value and just siphon off the profits. The owners exploit sentiment in the cities their teams play in and command tax dollars pay for stadiums primarily dedicated to their use. The owners could all die tomorrow and “the game” would go on as if they had never existed.
This description also applies to big companies and executives vs. everyone else at the company. It’s not a perfect match, and varies from time to time and company to company, but there are many rent-seeking parasites in the corner offices of corporate America.
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Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 6:48:33pm |
re: #147 goddamnedfrank
Sterling also displayed a blatant slave owners mentality.
I am certain that if NBA players decided to play at neighborhood community courts there’d be a massive audience. The players make the game, it’s their talent that draws the crowd, that creates the value and generates the revenue. Sterling and the other owners are just monopolistic rent seeking parasites, they add absolutely nothing of value and just siphon off the profits. The owners exploit sentiment in the cities their teams play in and command tax dollars pay for stadiums primarily dedicated to their use. The owners could all die tomorrow and “the game” would go on as if they had never existed.
Again, Coates only recounted history. h/t ww.
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dog philosopher May 23, 2014 6:50:26pm |
re: #145 Killgore Trout
Thankfully our courts still have the classical liberal interpretation of our founders. Classical liberals and progressives have different ideas about free speech.
you know, nothing says “wingnut” to me more clearly than blithe declarations about what other people believe
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klys May 23, 2014 6:55:21pm |
re: #155 dog philosopher
you know, nothing says “wingnut” to me more clearly than blithe declarations about what other people believe
Although, apparently “classical liberals” think any consequences to speech, even if it is private action by private citizens, should be outlawed.
Ignoring the very, very blatant hypocrisy.
Oh, wait, my bad. Not outlawed. We just need to be flogged to death with things telling us why it’s bad, repeatedly, and so outrageous as to be potato.
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EPR-radar May 23, 2014 6:55:43pm |
On the subject of the OP, it is difficult to imagine what could be so wrong with mocking Rubio’s evasive bullshit on the subject of marijuana use as to warrant a downding for the article.
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William Barnett-Lewis May 23, 2014 6:56:16pm |
re: #155 dog philosopher
you know, nothing says “wingnut” to me more clearly than blithe declarations about what other people believe
It’s a nice way to troll too. So much easier than thinking.
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freetoken May 23, 2014 6:58:38pm |
I do wonder about this fall’s election. A lot of bandwagon management going on these days in the media so it’s hard to get a good impartial analysis.
My gut is telling me that turnout will be low. Even around here there is little local advertising yet, and we have a primary coming up in less than two weeks.
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Charles Johnson May 23, 2014 6:58:59pm |
“I love you, mom!” pic.twitter.com/G8Q4XnRzEy— Luv Kittens Daily (@LuvKittensDaily) May 23, 2014
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Gus May 23, 2014 6:59:07pm |
Well, that was easy. People don’t realize how easy it is to find out a lot of things on the intertubes.
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klys May 23, 2014 7:00:00pm |
re: #159 freetoken
I do wonder about this fall’s election. A lot of bandwagon management going on these days in the media so it’s hard to get a good impartial analysis.
My gut is telling me that turnout will be low. Even around here there is little local advertising yet, and we have a primary coming up in less than two weeks.
I could send you some of the fliers that keep showing up in the mailbox, if you’re feeling deprived.
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freetoken May 23, 2014 7:00:05pm |
I don’t even know if there will be a hot-button proposition on the ballot to drive a few people to vote.
Jerry Brown will be governor until he gets carted off to the old-folks home. The GOP is no longer relevant at the state level.
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William Barnett-Lewis May 23, 2014 7:00:19pm |
classical liberal
A fancy term for a libertarian.
Tom: I for one believe in maximum civil liberty and economic freedom. I quite fancy that idea. Indeed, yes.Julie: So.. you’re a libertarian?
Tom: Quite. Although I prefer to be labeled a ‘classical liberal.’
Julie: Fancy.
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klys May 23, 2014 7:01:23pm |
For Bay Area folks, the series at the Stanford Theater right now is highlighting Fred Astaire. Starts tomorrow.
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Justanotherhuman May 23, 2014 7:01:32pm |
re: #163 Ryan King
‘It was my opinion’: Utah man jailed for threatening to cut black teenager’s throat
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Threatening a kid, at that. Racist bastard. Who the hell does he think he is?
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Justanotherhuman May 23, 2014 7:06:03pm |
re: #167 klys
For Bay Area folks, the series at the Stanford Theater right now is highlighting Fred Astaire. Starts tomorrow.
Only if Ginger Rogers is included. : )
And she did the same thing in high heels.
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klys May 23, 2014 7:06:43pm |
re: #172 Justanotherhuman
Only if Ginger Rogers is included. : )
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And she did the same thing in high heels.
I think there are 10 films including her on the schedule.
I’m trying to decide which ones I’d really like to see.
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Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 7:07:29pm |
re: #158 William Barnett-Lewis
o/t but hoping your job is fair buddy.
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freetoken May 23, 2014 7:08:33pm |
Silicon Valley, like the robber barons of old?
Google, Apple, Intel and Adobe Systems Agree To Pay $324 Million In Anti-Poaching Suit
[…]
The plaintiffs were all former engineers who said the agreement between the companies allowed the firms to keep wages low. One said the payout was also too low.
The lawsuit exposes systematic anti-poaching schemes that took place over many years at Silicon Valley’s biggest firms. According to PC World, the ‘anti-poaching’ scheme went as high as former Apple CEO Steve Jobs. A written affidavit from the former president and CEO of Palm says in 2007 Jobs threatened Palm with a patent lawsuit if it didn’t take part in the scheme.
Jobs also went after Google’s Eric Schmidt for Google’s hiring of Apple employees from the iPod department. Circa says Facebook’s COO, Sheryl Sandberg, fought off Google’s own attempts to get her participate as well.
[…]
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Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 7:09:50pm |
re: #168 Justanotherhuman
Threatening a kid, at that. Racist bastard. Who the hell does he think he is?
Black boy is gonna date these white girls in the neighborhood.
He’s a fucking dangerous racist. Just like the dude next door.
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EPR-radar May 23, 2014 7:12:48pm |
re: #175 freetoken
Let’s not forget that this is not just a few bad apples. This is what capitalism is.
Systematically driving down the price of labor in order to maximize the return on capital by any means physically possible is the whole point.
Globalization, union busting, and the immigration mess are just three of the ways this agenda has been legally pursued.
The legalization of wage-fixing is doubtless an ALEC agenda item.
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jaunte May 23, 2014 7:13:27pm |
re: #163 Ryan King
‘It was my opinion’: Utah man jailed for threatening to cut black teenager’s throat
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More domestic terrorism.
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Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 7:14:16pm |
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Ryan King May 23, 2014 7:14:54pm |
re: #179 Stanley Sea
But Coates is talking about the PAST you idjitsl
Coates is a Wall Of Text Racist.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce May 23, 2014 7:15:21pm |
re: #175 freetoken
Keep in mind that Google’s median starting salary is $87k.
I can’t really make myself listen to FNGs making $87k whining about how their wages were kept artificially low.
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Justanotherhuman May 23, 2014 7:15:44pm |
Boy Scouts President Robert Gates says he would have allowed gay adults in organization, but opposes further attempts to address policy - @AP
Read more on seattlepi.com
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EPR-radar May 23, 2014 7:16:09pm |
re: #180 Ryan King
Coates is a Wall Of Text Racist.
Anything that is long and hurts my fee-fees is just a wall of text.
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Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 7:16:56pm |
re: #180 Ryan King
Coates is a Wall Of Text Racist.
Dog, the ignorance.
So, missed your info - you in a sweet spot of CA?
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klys May 23, 2014 7:17:06pm |
re: #181 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce
Keep in mind that Google’s median starting salary is $87k.
I can’t really make myself listen to FNGs making $87k whining about how their wages were kept artificially low.
Oh, the chances that this applied to the low-level folks is about nil.
The senior levels are where the money is, and there tends to be a lot of movement there. They’re also the ones who could afford lawyers once they figured it out.
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William Barnett-Lewis May 23, 2014 7:17:22pm |
re: #174 Stanley Sea
o/t but hoping your job is fair buddy.
Ain’t the best but it’s way far from the worst. Imagine standing in front of a hot injection molding machine making plastic laundry soap bottles for a 12 hour shift for example or boxing freshly cooked chicken fried steak into cardboard boxes as it comes out of the fryer or, possibly the worst, working at Armour’s meats making the burgers that White Castle would cook and sell… Shudder. I’ll _never_ eat there.
With arch supports in my shoes and a back brace around my waist, working the grill for 7:22 hours a day at $7.40 is doable. Hopefully the school bus gig will come through and I can cut back the McD’s hours to a more easy to tolerate level. But it isn’t the easiest way to make $250 gross a week I’ve ever found.
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EPR-radar May 23, 2014 7:17:50pm |
re: #181 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce
Keep in mind that Google’s median starting salary is $87k.
I can’t really make myself listen to FNGs making $87k whining about how their wages were kept artificially low.
Divisions among those who work for a living aren’t helpful.
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Killgore Trout May 23, 2014 7:18:29pm |
Thank You, Mark Cuban, for Speaking Up
the only way to address Cuban’s biases, and the views of millions of others who think like him, is to create a space where those views can be heard. Conversely, the way we get the Donald Sterlings of tomorrow is by shutting up the Mark Cubans of today. If the misguided views that each of us hold about other groups are allowed to fester in the dark, they will become more caustic, bitter. Eventually, they’ll explode into the light—maybe through a surreptitious recording, maybe a nasty outburst in a diner, or maybe in other, darker ways.
Mark Cuban: I’m glad you made your implicit biases explicit. If we ever have a chance to talk, I’ll tell you what I know about those young men in hoodies—they’re probably a lot more like you than you think. And yes, I’m going to talk a bit about history, like Ta-Nehisi Coates did this week, because you need to know that, too. Then you can tell me about those white guys in hidden boardrooms that sometimes scare the crap out of me. We’ll have a real conversation, not some phony PC charade where everyone lives in fear of a soundbite or a negative headline.
Because ultimately, that’s the only way we’ll figure this stuff out—this painful, hidden, hurtful stuff called race.
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Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 7:19:43pm |
re: #186 William Barnett-Lewis
XXXOOO from a major supporter. Take it with you.
| 191 |
Ryan King May 23, 2014 7:20:38pm |
re: #184 Stanley Sea
Dog, the ignorance.
So, missed your info - you in a sweet spot of CA?
Market St. In the City of Teh Ghey Sin, Sin Francisco. Looking to murder a delicious all beef patty and deep fried potato morsels.
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freetoken May 23, 2014 7:20:52pm |
re: #181 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce
$87k/yr may sound high, but for many parts of California, including up there, even a little old cottage goes for $500k.
That’s the thing about “wages” in the US - where you live very dramatically affects the ability to own a house. Here in San Diego most everything is more expensive than in great swaths of this country, but first and foremost is real estate.
That’s one reason I sort of cringe at national minimum wage arguments. A modest apartment (1 bed, 1 bath) around here goes for $1000/mo, and even making $10/hr you can’t afford that.
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freetoken May 23, 2014 7:23:08pm |
re: #188 Killgore Trout
That is a silly argument, made to look better by enveloping it in a bigger discussion.
| 194 |
jaunte May 23, 2014 7:23:14pm |
I’m in favor of creating a space where the views of billionaires and multi-millionaires can be heard.
…
Ah, wish granted.
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Gus May 23, 2014 7:25:08pm |
re: #194 jaunte
I’m in favor of creating a space where the views of billionaires and multi-millionaires can be heard.
…
Ah, wish granted.
Poor Mark Cuban was about to be silenced and we didn’t know it. Who knew. Poor guy. Must be rough.
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klys May 23, 2014 7:25:26pm |
Huh.
Spicy bacon and brew muffins, with a streusel topping. I am …skeptical.
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jaunte May 23, 2014 7:26:09pm |
re: #195 Gus
It’s true, I was working this week and not keeping up with his opinions.
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Gus May 23, 2014 7:26:37pm |
re: #197 jaunte
It’s true, I was working this week and not keeping up with his opinions.
I don’t even know what he said.
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freetoken May 23, 2014 7:27:28pm |
“Conversely, the way we get the Donald Sterlings of tomorrow is by shutting up the Mark Cubans of today.”
I’m finding it hard to believe someone can write that and do it with a straight face.
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Gus May 23, 2014 7:27:53pm |
First they came for the Donald Sterlings, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Donald Sterling.
Then they came for the Marc Cubans, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Marc Cuban.
| 201 |
klys May 23, 2014 7:28:35pm |
Also, I’m going to go out on a limb and say that Donald Sterling’s racist views probably have more to do with the era he grew up in and less to do with people no longer being able to express racist views in public.
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EPR-radar May 23, 2014 7:29:52pm |
re: #193 freetoken
That is a silly argument, made to look better by enveloping it in a bigger discussion.
Tone-trolling writ large. If all that is done in response to the ravings of a racist is to say nothing and change the subject to avoid hurting the racist’s fee-fees, then nothing will change.
It is mainly conservatives who have made a conversation about race impossible by simultaneously saying/doing racist shit and getting the vapors at any suggestion that they have ever said or done racist shit.
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klys May 23, 2014 7:31:27pm |
But anyway. outrage. potato.
Did you know that the potato thing with Ireland is not just a stereotype? My husband was floored to find that they offered fries at the pasta station in the company cafeteria.
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thedopefishlives May 23, 2014 7:33:01pm |
re: #203 klys
But anyway. outrage. potato.
Did you know that the potato thing with Ireland is not just a stereotype? My husband was floored to find that they offered fries at the pasta station in the company cafeteria.
You could’ve just asked. I am, after all, half Irish.
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freetoken May 23, 2014 7:33:04pm |
Meanwhile, down in the land of smiles:
Thailand coup leader a strong defender of monarchy
The general who led the military takeover of Thailand is known as an ardent defender of the monarchy, an adversary of the former prime minister at the center of the nation’s political crisis, and a prickly personality prone to snap at unwanted questions.
[…]
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William Barnett-Lewis May 23, 2014 7:33:37pm |
re: #192 freetoken
That’s one reason I sort of cringe at national minimum wage arguments. A modest apartment (1 bed, 1 bath) around here goes for $1000/mo, and even making $10/hr you can’t afford that.
Around here, my one bedroom single wide trailer will set me back $500 a month PLUS utilities. That last bit sucks really hard. I may have $100 a month to eat on beyond my $189 a month in SNAP (assuming I _don’t_ make more than $900 a month which would cut SNAP fast).
I’d be ecstatic to make the $10.10 that’s been bandied about. To go from $250 a week to $350 would make a world of difference in my life. Remember my name when you think about this debate.
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William Barnett-Lewis May 23, 2014 7:34:07pm |
re: #199 freetoken
“Conversely, the way we get the Donald Sterlings of tomorrow is by shutting up the Mark Cubans of today.”
I’m finding it hard to believe someone can write that and do it with a straight face.
They didn’t. It’s pure propaganda for the gullible.
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klys May 23, 2014 7:34:12pm |
re: #205 thedopefishlives
You could’ve just asked. I am, after all, half Irish.
But potatoes with pasta…?
| 210 |
Lidane May 23, 2014 7:34:31pm |
re: #195 Gus
Poor Mark Cuban was about to be silenced and we didn’t know it. Who knew. Poor guy. Must be rough.
Hilariously, Mark Cuban would disagree with the whole “safe space” idea in the first place. Cuban’s whole point is that there IS no safe space and no non-sensitive time to talk about our own individual prejudices and biases, and that the best time to do it is when people are talking about racism already.
All this blather about creating safe places to be heard about race misses what he was saying in the first place. Yeah, Cuban is threading a needle he doesn’t need to bother with when it comes to Sterling because Sterling is an out and out racist, but his arguments about bias and prejudice have validity.
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thedopefishlives May 23, 2014 7:35:41pm |
re: #209 klys
But potatoes with pasta…?
Well, YEAH. Potatoes go with everything. Even other potatoes. We invented the twice-baked potato.
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Justanotherhuman May 23, 2014 7:35:46pm |
re: #192 freetoken
$87k/yr may sound high, but for many parts of California, including up there, even a little old cottage goes for $500k.
That’s the thing about “wages” in the US - where you live very dramatically affects the ability to own a house. Here in San Diego most everything is more expensive than in great swaths of this country, but first and foremost is real estate.
That’s one reason I sort of cringe at national minimum wage arguments. A modest apartment (1 bed, 1 bath) around here goes for $1000/mo, and even making $10/hr you can’t afford that.
People who move here to this area from other, more expensive parts of the country cannot believe how much house and/or land they can get for half a million. And that’s high as hell for most of us native to the area where paying $250K can get you a pretty decent place. This is 4 BR, 3 bths, 2325 sq ft: Image: image-24251451-1.jpg
And I pay $550/mo for a well-kept, older 2 BR apt in a quiet, safe area. Most of us have been here several years, some longer.
| 213 |
William Barnett-Lewis May 23, 2014 7:35:57pm |
re: #203 klys
But anyway. outrage. potato.
Did you know that the potato thing with Ireland is not just a stereotype? My husband was floored to find that they offered fries at the pasta station in the company cafeteria.
Is that wrong or something? ////
At least leaks never got turned into a major thing so my ancestors don’t have to face-palm in heaven all the time.
| 214 |
klys May 23, 2014 7:36:03pm |
re: #207 William Barnett-Lewis
Around here, my one bedroom single wide trailer will set me back $500 a month PLUS utilities. That last bit sucks really hard. I may have $100 a month to eat on beyond my $189 a month in SNAP (assuming I _don’t_ make more than $900 a month which would cut SNAP fast).
I’d be ecstatic to make the $10.10 that’s been bandied about. To go from $250 a week to $350 would make a world of difference in my life. Remember my name when you think about this debate.
Believe me, if I could wave my magic wand and make that happen it would.
When I moved out here for grad school, my one bedroom apartment on campus set me back $1400 a month. That thankfully included utilities, but…
| 215 |
freetoken May 23, 2014 7:36:07pm |
re: #208 William Barnett-Lewis
They didn’t. It’s pure propaganda for the gullable.
I assume the writer was simply churning out pages for the DailyBeast internet machine. I even wonder if he actually believes it, or only wrote it because he thought it might be a way to be noticed.
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The Ghost of a Flea May 23, 2014 7:36:08pm |
re: #200 Gus
First they came for the Donald Sterlings, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Donald Sterling.Then they came for the Marc Cubans, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Marc Cuban.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Slow down.
The progressive death camp is still in the “filing the permits” stage.
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
| 217 |
klys May 23, 2014 7:37:30pm |
I like leeks. I did a leek and potato soup that didn’t come out too bad, although further iterations are needed.
After I’ve detoxed from potatoes for like another week.
| 218 |
William Barnett-Lewis May 23, 2014 7:37:45pm |
re: #204 Gus
What on earth is this a picture from originally? I’ve seen it here a bit of late & yeah, it’s pretty silly which is helpful for the meme’s but really …
219 |
sagehen May 23, 2014 7:40:02pm |
re: #181 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce
Keep in mind that Google’s median starting salary is $87k.
I can’t really make myself listen to FNGs making $87k whining about how their wages were kept artificially low.
At a company with a market capitalization higher than WalMart, with a profit higher than Walmart, but with less than 1/10 as many employees… they have grounds for whining.
| 220 |
Gus May 23, 2014 7:41:25pm |
re: #218 William Barnett-Lewis
What on earth is this a picture from originally? I’ve seen it here a bit of late & yeah, it’s pretty silly which is helpful for the meme’s but really …
| 221 |
Justanotherhuman May 23, 2014 7:41:42pm |
re: #214 klys
Believe me, if I could wave my magic wand and make that happen it would.
When I moved out here for grad school, my one bedroom apartment on campus set me back $1400 a month. That thankfully included utilities, but…
Haha, I don’t even get $1400/mo in SS. : )
| 222 |
darthstar May 23, 2014 7:43:11pm |
re: #140 Gus
[Embedded content]
It’s times like this when I appreciate geo-location being standard on smart phones…and yes, it is.
| 223 |
klys May 23, 2014 7:43:23pm |
re: #221 Justanotherhuman
Haha, I don’t even get $1400/mo in SS. : )
It was reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally tight until my ex got a job and could start paying his half. And a decent contributor to moving in with the husband after the first 8 months of dating. :)
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calochortus May 23, 2014 7:43:53pm |
re: #207 William Barnett-Lewis
Around here, my one bedroom single wide trailer will set me back $500 a month PLUS utilities. That last bit sucks really hard. I may have $100 a month to eat on beyond my $189 a month in SNAP (assuming I _don’t_ make more than $900 a month which would cut SNAP fast).
I’d be ecstatic to make the $10.10 that’s been bandied about. To go from $250 a week to $350 would make a world of difference in my life. Remember my name when you think about this debate.
I think having workers make enough money to live decently is a great idea. If it means I pay a little bit more for a sandwich, or whatever, so be it.
I also don’t want the people picking grapes for me to eat to die because of working conditions. More expensive grapes? Maybe, but once again, I really don’t want people to die (or live in unsafe conditions) so I can have cheap grapes.
One wonders about people who don’t care.
| 225 |
freetoken May 23, 2014 7:45:23pm |
re: #207 William Barnett-Lewis
Perhaps the best solution would be for each state to designate minimum wage scales biased locally to expenses.
I still think that a strong progressive income tax (and treating many “capital gains” as income) is the best way to address the forces of economic inequality.
| 226 |
Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 7:45:37pm |
re: #201 klys
Also, I’m going to go out on a limb and say that Donald Sterling’s racist views probably have more to do with the era he grew up in and less to do with people no longer being able to express racist views in public.
Nope. No excuse. His income is made with African American men. He described them as sharecroppers basically. He gave them what they got.
No excuse. Change or get the fuck out. No more hiding racism.
| 227 |
sagehen May 23, 2014 7:46:55pm |
re: #212 Justanotherhuman
People who move here to this area from other, more expensive parts of the country cannot believe how much house and/or land they can get for half a million. And that’s high as hell for most of us native to the area where paying $250K can get you a pretty decent place. This is 4 BR, 3 bths, 2325 sq ft: Image: image-24251451-1.jpg
And I pay $550/mo for a well-kept, older 2 BR apt in a quiet, safe area. Most of us have been here several years, some longer.
I have a friend in Bloomington IN. She’s got a 2000 sqare foot house, on 3 acres, with a creek running through it… that cost her less than I’d get if I sold my 600 sq ft Manhattan co-op. And her property taxes are less than half my co-op maintenance fee.
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klys May 23, 2014 7:47:25pm |
re: #227 sagehen
I have a friend in Bloomington IN. She’s got a 2000 sqare foot house, on 3 acres, with a creek running through it… that cost her less than I’d get if I sold my 600 sq ft co-op. And her property taxes are less than half my co-op maintenance fee.
On the plus side, it can be fun to look at real estate not in CA and dream about what retirement could be like. :)
| 229 |
darthstar May 23, 2014 7:48:04pm |
re: #142 Ryan King
Want to see a stupid juggalo with no dick? —> .@FirefighterBand pic.twitter.com/LzokUSYZcO— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) May 24, 2014
| 230 |
calochortus May 23, 2014 7:49:51pm |
re: #228 klys
On the plus side, it can be fun to look at real estate not in CA and dream about what retirement could be like. :)
But then you wouldn’t be in California.
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klys May 23, 2014 7:50:55pm |
re: #230 calochortus
But then you wouldn’t be in California.
Sadly, the Vancouver area in BC is not substantially cheaper.
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Charles Johnson May 23, 2014 7:51:42pm |
Nightmarish.
A meeting of the Mickey Mouse Club in the 1930s… pic.twitter.com/fvBHUwxmg5— Behind the Scenes (@MakingOfs) May 24, 2014
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Justanotherhuman May 23, 2014 7:52:43pm |
re: #223 klys
It was reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally tight until my ex got a job and could start paying his half. And a decent contributor to moving in with the husband after the first 8 months of dating. :)
When we first moved here, 4 yrs ago, my grandson was on UI, but the State cut him off a few mos later because he had moved from Charlotte and didn’t get his mail properly to know that he had to “report in” or some such thing. They were totally unforgiving. No second chances. Anyway, we lived from Oct until the next April on my SS and food stamps with the baby getting his formula through WIC (and then milk after he was off the bottle). It was tough, but so are we. He finally got a job at BK and worked there for 2 yrs until this latest one sort of landed in his lap. It’s good to have a little more money, but I try to put it in perspective, too. My grandson is terrible at handling money, and I’m trying to teach him if he wants to learn (and with a kid, he’ll have to).
| 236 |
Decatur Deb May 23, 2014 7:55:07pm |
The NASA/Slooh live cam of the Camelopardalid meteor shower starts in 5 minutes. Fortunate for us a few hundred miles south of Huntsville, assuming they have better sky than our high thin cluds.
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Gus May 23, 2014 7:56:20pm |
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calochortus May 23, 2014 7:59:30pm |
So, I slipped on a shallow step in the back yard this morning, twisted my ankle and fell. No damage except for a badly bruised or possibly broken middle toe.
How do you suppose that happened? I can’t figure it out.
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klys May 23, 2014 8:03:48pm |
re: #239 calochortus
So, I slipped on a shallow step in the back yard this morning, twisted my ankle and fell. No damage except for a badly bruised or possibly broken middle toe.
How do you suppose that happened? I can’t figure it out.
Talent.
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William Barnett-Lewis May 23, 2014 8:11:56pm |
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Bear May 23, 2014 8:15:05pm |
About a month ago I was walking somewhat fast for an Old F**t in a store when bam, fell flat on my chest. Had a small cell phone and a small plastic case in my shirt pocket. Could have cracked a rib. When I started to get up I found that one of my shoes had come off, almost as if something grabbed my shoe.
Falling is no fun at all!!
| 245 |
William Barnett-Lewis May 23, 2014 8:15:37pm |
re: #225 freetoken
Perhaps the best solution would be for each state to designate minimum wage scales biased locally to expenses.
I still think that a strong progressive income tax (and treating many “capital gains” as income) is the best way to address the forces of economic inequality.
The problem with that remains the states in the hands of “states rights” or “classical liberals” or the people who by any other name would rather that the poor starve for the crime of being poor. Thus a federal baseline must be established and it must be indexed to inflation.
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calochortus May 23, 2014 8:16:57pm |
re: #244 Bear
The hazards of aging that one never sees coming…
That would be the hazards one doesn’t see coming, not the aging. That we expect.
| 247 |
Jocko's Rocket Ship May 23, 2014 8:52:14pm |
I recognize the compelling nature of sports. There’s real, unpredictable drama. But when people get all wrapped up in local pride about their team, as if it it reflects on them, it’s silly.
I miss my favorite onion t-shirt: “The sports team from my local area is superior to the sports team from your local area”
Then again, I’m a Cub fan. But also a Blackhawks fan. Baseball sucks! Chicago Rules! Dynasty mofos.
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palomino May 23, 2014 11:08:17pm |
re: #145 Killgore Trout
Thankfully our courts still have the classical liberal interpretation of our founders. Classical liberals and progressives have different ideas about free speech.
You’re in teabag territory now.
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Decatur Deb May 23, 2014 11:16:23pm |
The Camelopardalid shower is producing few meteors. Thanks, Obama.
‘Nite, all.
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