Donald Trump Explicitly Advocates Torture: “Torture Works”

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In case you were wondering if Donald Trump really was endorsing torture when he said a few days ago he’d approve interrogation methods “a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding,” today at his town hall event in South Carolina he came right out and explicitly advocated torture.

Not just “enhanced interrogation.” Torture.

The leading Republican candidate for president is a fan of torture. What? It’s a war crime and an egregious violation of the Geneva Conventions? You think Donald Trump cares about that?

During a question and answer session moderated by South Carolina State Rep. Bill Herbkersman, Trump was asked whether he would approve of waterboarding.

“Absolutely,” Trump said, as he has said before. But there was more.

“I said I’ll approve it immediately, but I’ll make it also much worse. They said what do you mean,” Trump said, referring to an ABC News debate in February.

“I said they’re chopping off our heads in the Middle East. They want to kill us. They want to kill us. They want to kill our country. They want to knock out our cities. And don’t tell me it doesn’t work. Torture works, okay folks?…Believe me, it works.”

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229 comments
1
freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:30:04pm

Does watching Ben Carson for half hour count?

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:31:31pm

Now a guy claiming only recently he felt the need to own a gun…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:32:20pm

I don’t what sickens me more. Trump or that a sizable amount of Americans buy this asshole and think he should be President.

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:32:29pm

Explicitly correlates our freedom for a couple of centuries with gun ownership of a couple of centuries… then goes Trump on the San Bernardino shooters…

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lawhawk  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:33:01pm

Derp alert:

Obama set the stage for Trump. Right. Not the GOP going bugnuts - complete with obstructionism to everything Obama suggests, no matter how reasonable. Obama won reelection in 2012, and the GOP took it upon itself to destroy Obama by any means necessary.

That’s on Obama? Really? If only Obama did more outreach, even as the GOP was proposing scorched earth tactics to obstruct and deny everything Obama did from 2009 forward.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:34:45pm

Must be a Trump voter==>

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Skip Intro  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:35:05pm

CBS ought to take a look at their comments section. Breitbart/Stormfront must be envious.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:35:49pm

re: #5 lawhawk

Derp alert:

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Obama set the stage for Trump. Right. Not the GOP going bugnuts - complete with obstructionism to everything Obama suggests, no matter how reasonable. Obama won reelection in 2012, and the GOP took it upon itself to destroy Obama by any means necessary.

That’s on Obama? Really? If only Obama did more outreach, even as the GOP was proposing scorched earth tactics to obstruct and deny everything Obama did from 2009 forward.

John, if you were led to support a conspiracy nutjob who retweets white supremacists, that’s on you and not on President Obama. Stop blaming Obama who’s been actually fairly conservative (by dictionary) standards for the Republican party being willing to nominate a guy who openly advocates torture. That’s your fault. Not his but yours.

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:36:51pm

“political correctness”…

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:37:10pm

re: #5 lawhawk

Derp alert:

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Snarknado!  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:37:44pm

Has anyone asked Trump just how he knows torture works?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:39:26pm

re: #9 freetoken

“political correctness”…

I’m so sick of whining about political correctness especially form people who are icnredibly thin skinned.

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Snarknado!  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:39:57pm

re: #8 HappyWarrior

John, if you were led to support a conspiracy nutjob who retweets white supremacists, that’s on you and not on President Obama. Stop blaming Obama who’s been actually fairly conservative (by dictionary) standards for the Republican party being willing to nominate a guy who openly advocates torture. That’s your fault. Not his but yours.

“The Republicans are about to nominate Donald Trump. I blame Obama….” (must be a day ending in “y” again.)

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Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:41:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:41:31pm

re: #13 Snarknado!

“The Republicans are about to nominate Donald Trump. I blame Obama….” (must be a day ending in “y” again.)

I am so sick of them blaming Obama for their own problems that began years before Obama was even born. The Republican Party has gone after the votes of the angry bigots for years. What a shock that one day that one of them would become the party’s frontrunner.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:41:33pm

re: #11 Snarknado!

Has anyone asked Trump just how he knows torture works?

He saw it in a movie.

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Skip Intro  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:42:00pm

More proof of Justice Robert’s post racial America.

Penn. home hides Confederate flag and lynched black baby doll display after reporters look for answers

rawstory.com

So which Republican candidate are they supporting?

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:44:01pm

Koch, Giuliani and Bloomberg have a lot to answer for, in more ways than just returning Trump’s phone calls.

Where’s the RW outrage about “New York-style politics”?

Oh well, thanks de Blasio. ////

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Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:46:58pm

re: #11 Snarknado!

Has anyone asked Trump just how he knows torture works?

Might explain the Nielsen ratings for The Apprentice.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:47:19pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:47:41pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:48:11pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:49:30pm

re: #20 goddamnedfrank

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Personal responsibility if you’re a child on welfare but it’s Obama’s fault we support racist assholes.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:52:16pm

re: #19 Feline Fearless Leader

Might explain the Nielsen ratings for The Apprentice.

President Trump’s Secretary of the Department of Fart Jokes
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:52:44pm

HUMP DAY

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teleskiguy  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:52:51pm

www.reasonstovotetrump.com

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:52:56pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

I just started reading A War for the Soul of America: A History of the Culture War, by Andrew Hartman. I had no idea that Podheretz, Kristol, etc. have been at their halfassed punditry for so damn long.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:53:24pm

re: #25 FormerDirtDart

HUMP DAY

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Karma.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:54:06pm

re: #27 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I just started reading A War for the Soul of America: A History of the Culture War, by Andrew Hartman. I had no idea that Podheretz, Kristol, etc. have been at their halfassed punditry for so damn long.

Kristol I know was Alan Keyes’ campaign manager when he ran for the Senate in Maryland in ‘88. I think they worked together in the Reagan administration.

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:54:24pm

That’s right Donald. Go ahead and talk like you can unilaterally change the terms of international agreements (NAFTA, Iran Nuclear Compliance, Geneva Convention, etc). Keep throwing out the red meat for your rabid supporters, they have got to be having Trumpgasms by the moment.

SPIT. Each time I think that the current GOP can go no lower, they find yet another way to lower the bar. The worst part is that now many of them are going to adapt the same positions, but just phrase it in a more ‘civilized’ tone.

What can this man do that will cause his fans to go “Hey, now that’s over the top…. what was I thinking?”.

RBS

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Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:55:48pm

re: #27 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I just started reading A War for the Soul of America: A History of the Culture War, by Andrew Hartman. I had no idea that Podheretz, Kristol, etc. have been at their halfassed punditry for so damn long.

The movement cannot fail. It can only be failed. (And it thus can be a profitable grift for a very long time.)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:56:06pm

re: #30 Reality Based Steve

That’s right Donald. Go ahead and talk like you can unilaterally change the terms of international agreements (NAFTA, Iran Nuclear Compliance, Geneva Convention, etc). Keep throwing out the red meat for your rabid supporters, they have got to be having Trumpgasms by the moment.

SPIT. Each time I think that the current GOP can go no lower, they find yet another way to lower the bar. The worst part is that now many of them are going to adapt the same positions, but just phrase it in a more ‘civilized’ tone.

What can this man do that will cause his fans to go “Hey, now that’s over the top…. what was I thinking?”.

RBS

I keep on asking myself that same question. I honestly have no idea.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 17, 2016 • 5:56:14pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:00:46pm
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TedStriker  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:01:08pm

re: #33 FormerDirtDart

Fed indict charges 3 Bundys, Ryan Payne, P.Santilli w/ conspiracy, assault, threatening fed officer, obstruction of justice,use firearms,

— Maxine Bernstein (@maxoregonian) February 18, 2016

Fed indict also alleges 5 counts criminal forfeiture;if convicted, require forfeiture of property derived from crimes’ proceeds of $3mill

— Maxine Bernstein (@maxoregonian) February 18, 2016

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No Country For Old Haters  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:01:14pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:02:31pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

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re: #5 lawhawk

Derp alert:

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Obama set the stage for Trump. Right. Not the GOP going bugnuts - complete with obstructionism to everything Obama suggests, no matter how reasonable. Obama won reelection in 2012, and the GOP took it upon itself to destroy Obama by any means necessary.

That’s on Obama? Really? If only Obama did more outreach, even as the GOP was proposing scorched earth tactics to obstruct and deny everything Obama did from 2009 forward.

I guess once you let a black guy be President, you’ll elect just ANYONE!
///

Seriously.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:02:32pm

re: #33 FormerDirtDart

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I can hear their supporters now…

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b.d.  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:05:30pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

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Barack Obama made the GOP embrace Trump?

Best. President. Ever.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:06:18pm

re: #38 De Kolta Chair

I can hear their supporters now…

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“Honestly, if I paid taxes, I’d be outraged!”

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lawhawk  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:08:59pm

The feds finally caught up with indictments - the Bundy militia welfare queens are finally getting their comeuppance over the Ranch encounters from back in 2014.

That’s in addition to all the charges stemming from the Malheur NWR.

They’re going to be going away for a very long long long time.

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MsJ  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:09:57pm

re: #16 Decatur Deb

He saw it in a movie.

‘24’. Ask Southerland the Younger. Kiefer proved torture works. /

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Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:11:35pm

Here’s the video of Trump calling for the US to torture people.

YouTube

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:12:03pm

The hacked live streams on youtube have been cut…

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MsJ  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:14:15pm

re: #20 goddamnedfrank

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teleskiguy  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:14:34pm

Former president G.W. Bush, over eight years ago. You’ll need to turn the volume up on this video.

George W. Bush: ‘United States Does Not Torture’ - 11/05/2007

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worldknot  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:17:47pm

re: #46 teleskiguy

Former president G.W. Bush, over eight years ago. You’ll need to turn the volume up on this video.

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RINO!

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:19:12pm

Big deal going on here over the names of the Walton family kids. I suggest avoiding the area for the foreseeable futur… nyah, everybody’s over it. Never mind.

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:19:22pm

I’ve always like the take on torture between Humphrey Bogart and Sydney Greenstreet in “The Maltese Falcon”

Sam Spade: If you kill me, how are you going get the bird? And if I know you can’t afford to kill me, how are you going to scare me into giving it to you?

Kasper Gutman: Well, sir, there are other means of persuasion besides killing and threatening to kill.

Sam Spade: Yes, that’s… That’s true. But, there’re none of them any good unless the threat of death is behind them. You see what I mean? If you start something, I’ll make it a matter of your having to kill me or call it off.

Kasper Gutman: That’s an attitude, sir, that calls for the most delicate judgment on both sides. Because, as you know, sir, in the heat of action men are likely to forget where their best interests lie and let their emotions carry them away.

Sam Spade: Then the trick from my angle is to make my play strong enough to tie you up, but not make you mad enough to bump me off against your better judgment.

Kasper Gutman: By gad, sir, you are a character.

“Welcome to Trump Torture Towers, Would you like a Waterboarding or a No-Waterboarding room tonight?”

RBS

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Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:20:14pm

Honestly, I don’t know why this statement from Trump endorsing torture isn’t leading all the news broadcasts. This is giant news. He’s talking about America turning its back on the Geneva Conventions, for Pete’s sake.

I know we all have Trump fatigue, but seriously. This should be major news.

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:22:00pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

Many of the punditry still likely believe that Trump won’t be elected President.

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Targetpractice  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:22:15pm

We’ll carpet bomb innocent people, kill the families of terrorists, torture people, and even joke about the usage of nuclear weapons…but we’re the “good guys.”

Is it any wonder the rest of world thinks America is one big insane asylum?

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MsJ  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:22:52pm

re: #51 freetoken

Many of the punditry still likely believe that Trump won’t be elected President.

While they do everything they can to help elect him.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:23:39pm

Well, at 51 pages I think I’ll be giving reading this one a pass…

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:23:55pm

Rubio is taking up all his time with almost one question… his mouth doesn’t stop.

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MsJ  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:24:14pm

re: #52 Targetpractice

We’ll carpet bomb innocent people, kill the families of terrorists, torture people, and even joke about the usage of nuclear weapons…but we’re the “good guys.”

Is it any wonder the rest of world thinks America is one big insane asylum?

Pretty scary. If I was living elsewhere I’d have to wonder how long before the nuts (American republicans) were going to come for me.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:24:26pm

The self-hater @Nero showed up in my neck of the woods.

“It’s enormously good fun,” said Yiannopoulos, a telegenic 31-year-old college dropout from London who is now senior editor for the conservative Breitbart News Network. “All of the very worst people in the world get triggered by the mere mention of my name.”

Yep, Milo: and they’re all your fans, too.

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Brian J.  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:26:22pm

re: #55 freetoken

Rubio is taking up all his time with almost one question… his mouth doesn’t stop.

Let’s dispel with the idea that he doesn’t know what he’s doing. Let’s just dispense with him. (He sounds like a damn fool when he says that wrong.)

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Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:27:05pm
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Reality Based Steve  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:27:16pm

re: #51 freetoken

Many of the punditry still likely believe that Trump won’t be elected President.

That doesn’t excuse not covering it IMHO. This man has given the press so much rope and done such outrageous things, but still he hangs on like a hair on a biscuit. At this point I just have to hope that “Trump Fatigue” sets in, that the voters start viewing him like that one (blatant sexism ahead) really hot girl we all knew… the one that was a super good time and HAWT, along with super crazy. It was a lot of fun at first, but eventually you realized that no amount of entertainment was worth the mental anguish that came with it.

That’s Trump. He’s crazy, he does all the things the other candidates won’t do, nothing seems outside his limits. But he’s crazier than a shithouse rat.

RBS

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:27:33pm

… boy Rubio can ramble…

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Targetpractice  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:28:13pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

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That’s just it, we’re supposed to be better than that shit, or at least the wingnuts insisted for years that we were. But ow here they are, actually suggesting we just dispense with the fiction and admit out loud that we’re a bunch of hypocrites. That we’re cool with torture, maiming, and killing…but only if we’re the ones doing it.

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retired cynic  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:29:50pm

OT for brain cleansing:

slate.com

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:30:05pm

re: #58 Brian J.

Let’s dispel with the idea that he doesn’t know what he’s doing. Let’s just dispense with him. (He sounds like a damn fool when he says that wrong.)

It’s not unusual…

//// Sorry, I’m got a cold and reading Tom Jones’ autobio and everything is Tom Jones right now.

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:30:06pm

Young Turks roasting Anderson Cooper… and Cooper deserves it…

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No Country For Old Haters  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:30:11pm

re: #57 Eric The Fruit Bat

Narcissist, with a shallow, self-oriented belief that the people he annoys are the worst people in the world.

A lot of creepy guys love Milo, and the worst people in the world have never even heard of him. He’s a zero playing hero.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:31:07pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:33:22pm

I guess Donald missed the torture report.

nytimes.com

Torture doesn’t work. Perhaps Donald would like to prove us wrong by subjecting himself to any of the methods used. Preferable waterboarding.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:33:27pm

Shepard Fairey, who made the iconic Obama poster, is designing Bernie swag

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:34:06pm

re: #54 FormerDirtDart

Well, at 51 pages I think I’ll be giving reading this one a pass…

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And there is also a suit by Shawana Cox for 666 billion dollars.

PORTLAND, Ore. (KOIN) — Shawna Cox, one of the original occupiers at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge who is now facing federal charges, has sued the US government for $666 billion.

The counter suit seeks “damages from the works of the devil in excess of $666,666,666,666.66 Six hundred sixty six billion, six hundred sixty six million, six hundred sixty six thousand, six hundred sixty six dollars and sixty six cents.”

Read More at KOIN

I’m just going to shake my head and eat a Poo-Tart.

RBS

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BeachDem  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:35:41pm

OMG, the Republican commercials. MAKE THEM STOP. Jeb (Right to Rise—no coordination, of course) now not only going after Rubio but also running anti-Kasich spots (actually comparing him to Bernie Sanders for some reason.) Then there’s a new pro-Rubio spot with Trey Gowdy talking like he’s inside an orange juice can. ARRGGGGGHH.

Two and a half days until the Republican primary. Thank dog.

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Jenner7  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:35:57pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:38:07pm

re: #66 No Country For Old Haters

The person he’s traveling with is an AEI shill-so it really isn’t much of a debate, but more of mutual admiration society-thingy.

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lawhawk  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:43:25pm

So, Obama met god. No wonder it’s news-y.

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:45:32pm

“New American Century” - Rubio get’s the ad placement in for his sponsors.

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:45:53pm

TYT are having a spasm over Anderson Cooper… don’t blame them…

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lawhawk  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:47:13pm

Maine’s Gov. LePetomane (LePage) goes off on minorities again - this time blaming asylum seekers for AIDS and Ziki (sic):

Yeah, demonizing minorities and going after people for a tropical disease that is increasingly prevalent due to climate change and global travel.

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:47:15pm

TYT don’t seem to accept that CNN is doing this for ratings… and thus CNN is indebted to the RNC for arranging this.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:48:28pm

re: #39 b.d.

Barack Obama made the GOP embrace Trump?

Best. President. Ever.

That’s what I was thinking. Trump is beatable. He’s so toxic and bloviating that he writes his own attack ads. Thanks Obama!!!

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Decatur Deb  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:48:45pm

re: #62 Targetpractice

That’s just it, we’re supposed to be better than that shit, or at least the wingnuts insisted for years that we were. But ow here they are, actually suggesting we just dispense with the fiction and admit out loud that we’re a bunch of hypocrites. That we’re cool with torture, maiming, and killing…but only if we’re the ones doing it.

We get to prove we’re better in November. If we’ve done our homework.

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:49:18pm

Also, TYT don’t seem to realize that many of their fellow citizens don’t care about this or that policy point, but vote on more visceral reactions, or simple personality.

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plansbandc  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:49:21pm

How in the hell did that vile piece get elected Governor of Maine. Holy shit.

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lawhawk  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:50:12pm

re: #82 plansbandc

I didn’t hear a harumph out of that guy.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:50:49pm

re: #82 plansbandc

How in the hell did that vile piece get elected Governor of Maine. Holy shit.

Voters like him?

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Decatur Deb  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:51:02pm

re: #82 plansbandc

How in the hell did that vile piece get elected Governor of Maine. Holy shit.

The nice people were busy that Tuesday.

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lawhawk  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:51:11pm

re: #77 lawhawk

And showing my work - here’s where I got the figures for Maine.

ccmaine.org

Refugees in Maine have come from over 30 countries in: Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe, Former Soviet Republics, Middle East, Eastern Africa, South/Central America, Caribbean and Cuba. Current refugee populations that are coming to Maine are from Somalia, Sudan, Congo, Ethiopia, Burma, Iran and Iraq. Trends in refugee resettlement mirror the conflicts and tragedies that are happening worldwide and as such, Maine has most recently assisted in the resettlement of Eastern African and Middle Eastern refugees.

In the last 40 years, RIS has assisted over 9,000 people through its resettlement program and assisted over 20,000 with refugee and asylee support services. In fiscal year 2015, RIS resettled 442 primary refugees and assisted more than 66 secondary migrants and 77 asylees in becoming self-sufficient new members of our community. Similar populations and arrivals are expected to be resettled in FY16.

Oh, and the regions where the refugees/asylum seekers are coming from aren’t exactly Zika regions - Central and South America is the primary area where Zika is active, not Africa or Asia.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:51:38pm

re: #82 plansbandc

How in the hell did that vile piece get elected Governor of Maine. Holy shit.

Low voter turn out? I stand corrected, Maine has high voter turn outs. Holy shit indeed.
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Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:51:45pm

Torture works…

…if you’re trying to make someone say something, anything, to avoid discomfort.

Scream “tell the truth” at them and they’ll just keep inventing shit until a statement makes you stop hurting them—even if only momentarily. Feed them a scenario and demand they confirm or deny it…and they’ll do whichever one they think will end the pain.

If the factual Truth of a matter does match the expectation of the torturer, then they will keep inflicting pain. If there is a fiction that the torturer deems true., they can prompt the tortured to “confess” this fiction as fact

Veracity is non-sequitur to compliance. Which is why there are so many dead “witches.”

Now let’s look at this backward: what’s the standard of veracity that this current crop of pro-torture jerks cleave to? Not just the Trumpenproletariat…every asshole who cited “24” to justify AbU Gharib. It’s a trick question: they don’t have one. They belief things to be true, then works backwards to confirm their position. Contradictory information is the product of conspiracy and delusion.

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Interesting Times  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:51:51pm

re: #82 plansbandc

How in the hell did that vile piece get elected Governor of Maine. Holy shit.

The so-called “sane” vote split between the Dems and an Independent candidate (same dynamic that helped Rubio get elected to the Senate in the first place).

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Amory Blaine  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:52:36pm

re: #81 freetoken

Also, TYT don’t seem to realize that many of their fellow citizens don’t care about this or that policy point, but vote on more visceral reactions, or simple personality.

Yep. If he tamed his hair his approval ratings would go up 10 point.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:53:47pm

re: #82 plansbandc

How in the hell did that vile piece get elected Governor of Maine. Holy shit.

Twice, even.

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:54:33pm

re: #90 Amory Blaine

Yep. If he tamed his hair his approval ratings would go up 10 point.

TYT were having a spasm over Cooper asking softball questions, questions such as about sports.

Well, of the 130 million or so votes that will be cast come election day, I suspect many of them will be done simply on a feeling that ‘I like him (or her)’, with no analytic process at all.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:54:43pm

Chuck C. Johnson has found the love of his life in New Zealand.

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Jenner7  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:55:54pm

Snyder is trying to stall replacing the pipes, now wants another study by a contractor that he gets to pick. What a dirty son of a bitch.

The Mayor has a plan to replacing the pipes and will start regardless of what Snyder does.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:57:14pm

So the next Supreme Court Justice might actually be a guy named… Charles Johnson.

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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:57:28pm

re: #41 lawhawk

The feds finally caught up with indictments - the Bundy militia welfare queens are finally getting their comeuppance over the Ranch encounters from back in 2014.

That’s in addition to all the charges stemming from the Malheur NWR.

They’re going to be going away for a very long long long time.

I know I’ve posted this before, but:

Ain’t nothing like a federal indictment to complicate your life.

In federal court, the rules are different.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:58:53pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

Ewwwww(e)!!!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:59:36pm

OT, but has anyone figured what David Bowie’s Blackstar music video was about?

David Bowie - Blackstar

I’m still scratching my head.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 17, 2016 • 6:59:46pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

So the next Supreme Court Justice might actually be a guy named… Charles Johnson.

Jeh.

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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:00:06pm

re: #54 FormerDirtDart

Well, at 51 pages I think I’ll be giving reading this one a pass…

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How many counts?

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danarchy  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:01:14pm

re: #85 Decatur Deb

The nice people were busy that Tuesday.

Apparently twice since he was re-elected in 2014

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Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:03:11pm

re: #98 Ziggy_TARDIS

OT, but has anyone figured what David Bowie’s Blackstar music video was about?

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I’m still scratching my head.

It’s up for interpretation, but I’d saying it’s about being an artist confronting mortality. Basically you are a creator (an artist) and you will inevitably die, and to choose to look at that inevitability rather than away from it.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:04:21pm

re: #98 Ziggy_TARDIS

OT, but has anyone figured what David Bowie’s Blackstar music video was about?

I’m still scratching my head.

Good question, but after 48 years, I’m still trying to figure out what the hell the Grateful Dead’s “Dark Star” is about. (Full disclosure: I gave up at least 35 years ago)

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:04:38pm

Cruz sounding as creepy as ever…

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:05:32pm

Cruz: Obama is going to give Gitmo back to Cuba.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:06:50pm

re: #105 freetoken

Cruz: Obama is going to give Gitmo back to Cuba.

Is he doing a presser tonight?

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:07:44pm

re: #106 De Kolta Chair

Is e doing a presser tonight?

This is the CNN townhall, first night.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:08:35pm

re: #107 freetoken

This is the CNN townhall, first night.

Thanks, ft, I’m in the mood for some comedy. Now, if I could only find the remote…

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No Country For Old Haters  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:09:22pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

So the next Supreme Court Justice might actually be a guy named… Charles Johnson.

I’d never run across the name Jeh before.

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:10:05pm

re: #108 De Kolta Chair

Thanks, ft, I’m in the mood for some comedy.

Trump is on tomorrow night.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:10:13pm

Where have I heard this before?

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scottslemmons  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:11:12pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

Honestly, I don’t know why this statement from Trump endorsing torture isn’t leading all the news broadcasts. This is giant news. He’s talking about America turning its back on the Geneva Conventions, for Pete’s sake.

I know we all have Trump fatigue, but seriously. This should be major news.

I’m sure the ratings are sky-high. They put Trump on the TV, everyone says they hate him, but the ratings go up and up and up. At this point, I’m sure most stations are gleeful at the idea of Trump at the GOP convention, and ecstatic at the idea of Trump in the White House. Can you imagine the ratings? They’d make so much money — so I’m sure the bigwigs are doing all they can to promote him at this point. Sure, it’ll suck for almost everyone. But TV people are rich, and that means Trump will make sure they’re okay.

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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:12:08pm

re: #83 lawhawk

I didn’t hear a harumph out of that guy.

“Gentlemen!

This bill will be a giant step forward in the treatment of the insane gambler,”

Governor La Petomane

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:12:22pm

re: #107 freetoken

This is the CNN townhall, first night.

The brick wall comedy club backdrop is perfect.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:13:08pm

LaPage I remember was the TP governor that had a freak out about a union mural in the state legislative building. Likened it to Soviet realism IIRC.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:14:34pm

Ted Cruz will spend the USSR into bankruptcy. Finally, a politician with vision!

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:15:18pm

WHUT

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Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:16:36pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

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And these are same people spouting off constantly how exceptional America is.

So it’s time to go wade in the ditch with these countries and peoples we are supposedly so much morally superior to?

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:16:54pm

I posted the Trump video at a rightwing board I visit. I expect to see posts in the thread praising him for advocating the use of torture. Trump calling for the commission of war crimes requires me to post this again:

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Joe Bacon  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:17:02pm

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

WHUT

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I’d rather see Bernie and Hillary sing “Mockingbird”…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:17:05pm

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

WHUT

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Between this and his Simpsons impressions, he really shouldn’t do pop culture.

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teleskiguy  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:17:57pm

Wingnuts be like

So many scattered brains all over the place.

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Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:18:18pm

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

WHUT

I suspect that Ted gets to the parts about love and togetherness and begins to smoke like a demon struck with holy water.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:18:58pm

Cruz: “Rather than engage with ISIL we should get engaged with them, starting with purity rings.”

Wait — Linking Donald Trump to Michael Moore? The spirit of Luis Bunuel lives on!

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:19:16pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

Honestly, I don’t know why this statement from Trump endorsing torture isn’t leading all the news broadcasts. This is giant news. He’s talking about America turning its back on the Geneva Conventions, for Pete’s sake.

I know we all have Trump fatigue, but seriously. This should be major news.

Remember how Obama said ‘we need to look forward.’ He has been involved in our forgetting. Trump is making us remember and that implicates not only GWB but also this administration.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:19:34pm

re: #124 De Kolta Chair

Cruz: “Rather than engage with ISIL we should get engaged with them. starting with purity rings.

Wait — Linking Donald Trump to Michael Moore? The spirit of Luis Bunuel lives on!

Who’s been engaging with ISIL?

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:19:54pm
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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:22:06pm

re: #126 HappyWarrior

Who’s been engaging with ISIL?

Putin!!11!!

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Belafon  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:22:24pm

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

But was it running iOS.

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:22:25pm

re: #119 Big Beautiful Door

I posted the Trump video at a rightwing board I visit. I expect to see posts in the thread praising him for advocating the use of torture. Trump calling for the commission of war crimes requires me to post this again:

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If we’re going to elect an Evil Clown, let’s elect the BEST Evil Clown….

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Joe Bacon  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:22:28pm

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

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Hollywood Presbyterian—there was a big billing scandal there a couple years ago where they were claiming insurance reimbursement for services they never provided. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving racketeering ring!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:22:44pm

re: #128 De Kolta Chair

Putin!!11!!

But Putin good, he hate gay too. //

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:23:56pm

re: #130 Reality Based Steve

If we’re going to elect an Evil Clown, let’s elect the BEST Evil Clown….

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“I shot Ted Cruz in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas I’ll never know…” — Dick Cheney

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:24:28pm

“Stabilizing oil prices?” Is that even a thing?

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:24:34pm

re: #130 Reality Based Steve

If we’re going to elect an Evil Clown, let’s elect the BEST Evil Clown….

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Spaulding/Pennywise ‘16, nearly as evil clowns as Trump!

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:25:55pm

re: #134 De Kolta Chair

“Stabilizing oil prices?” Is that even a thing?

Russia and KSA and VZ just made an agreement.

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:26:38pm

“audit the federal reserve”… “tie to gold”….

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:27:00pm

re: #131 Joe Bacon

Hollywood Presbyterian—there was a big billing scandal there a couple years ago where they were claiming insurance reimbursement for services they never provided. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving racketeering ring!

Somebody downloaded the virus in an email attachment. There are a lot of stupid people using computers at work, but it looks like their virus scanners were not up to date.

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teleskiguy  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:28:36pm

Gonna go bowling with some folks from the ski shop. Who should I be tonight, Walter Sobchak or Ernie “Big Ern” McCracken?

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:29:27pm

re: #139 teleskiguy

Gonna go bowling with some folks from the ski shop. Who should I be tonight, Walter Sobchak or Ernie “Big Ern” McCracken?

Shut Up Donnie!!!!

RBS

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withak  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:29:48pm

re: #139 teleskiguy

Gonna go bowling with some folks from the ski shop. Who should I be tonight, Walter Sobchak or Ernie “Big Ern” McCracken?

I think you should go with the Jesus Quintana motif.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:30:16pm
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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:30:57pm

Cruz: “I was born in a shoebox in Calgary, Alberta…”

“Cardboard box? You were lucky.”

Monty Python - Four Yorkshiremen

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teleskiguy  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:31:14pm

re: #141 withak

I think you should go with the Jesus Quintana motif.

“8-year-olds dude.”

“What’s a pederast?”

“Shut the fuck up, Donny.”

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:33:34pm

TYT are really struggling with how people really work.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:34:45pm

re: #98 Ziggy_TARDIS

OT, but has anyone figured what David Bowie’s Blackstar music video was about?

It’s about ten minutes long.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:35:28pm

Because according to Rafael Edward “Ted” Cruz of Canada, the USA is only 80 years old…

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:35:49pm

And I’m getting the exact responses I expected. Molly, who supports Trump because she wants to make America white again, posted

You’re right.

Waterboarding is too gentle for these monsters.

How about sticks under fingernails?

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:35:50pm

TYT complaining that this is an infomercial for the Republicans.

Yes, but that is not a bug, it’s the feature.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:36:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:37:23pm

re: #147 De Kolta Chair

Because according to Rafael Edward “Ted” Cruz of Canada, the USA is only 80 years old…

Is he still doing this Supreme Court lie because FDR actually did appoint someone in 1940, a couple years after the court packing controversy no less who was approved quite easily. The Calgary Kid is hoping his supporters don’t actually check him on his crap and they probably won’t.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:38:05pm
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Reality Based Steve  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:38:50pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

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BEARS!!!!

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:39:37pm

How does he tweet while talking? For he is the Kwisatz Derperach!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:40:26pm

re: #154 De Kolta Chair

How does he tweet while talking? For he is the Kwisatz Derperach!

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Good, he’d protect Christian churches that are okay with gay marriage. Oh wait. //

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:41:44pm

This inept idiot argued several times before the SCOTUS? LOL!

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Lidane  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:42:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:42:32pm

re: #156 De Kolta Chair

This inept idiot argued before the SCOTUS? LOL!

From what I gather about Cruz, he’s an intelligent guy but he panders to the lowest common denominator. He takes his supporters for idiots and sure enough they are.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:43:17pm

re: #105 freetoken

Cruz: Obama is going to give Gitmo back to Cuba.

And?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:43:34pm

re: #156 De Kolta Chair

Ah-yep, sad to say. This is one dude who scares me worse than Trump. He’s a Dominionist, and will bring the destruction to Israel even as he says he’ll protect it as President. That’s the way they roll.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:45:57pm

re: #148 Big Beautiful Door

And I’m getting the exact responses I expected. Molly, who supports Trump because she wants to make America white again, posted

Why not just lynch them like what you used to do to Blacks?
The fact that a leading Presidential Candidate endorses torture shows just how debased we are. Wow.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:46:24pm

Jim DeMint? This guy is so relevant.

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:46:26pm

OT… I’m watching a BBC series called “The Stories of Maths”, and it’s got me wanting to go and do an online calculus class. It kicked my ass severely in college, and now is time for a rematch. To me it seemed like we are dividing infinity by 0 then taking the square root of that.

RBS

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:46:27pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

Honestly, I don’t know why this statement from Trump endorsing torture isn’t leading all the news broadcasts. This is giant news. He’s talking about America turning its back on the Geneva Conventions, for Pete’s sake.

I know we all have Trump fatigue, but seriously. This should be major news.

Because polls regularly show half of Americans approve of torturing terror suspects. Also, the news networks don’t have the fucking balls to actually call torture what it is since the Cheney/Addington/Yoo wing of the GOP rewrote the last 700 years of English language to turn torture into a college prank. The intelligence agencies also have influence here..and don’t think that private notices haven’t been sent to the NYT and elsewhere that backdoor access will be shut off if they make a stink.

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nines09  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:47:51pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Then they killed the bear and made jerky and sold the fur. Then the jerky ran out and they had to support the family. That’s when goverment got involved. They gave out jerky even to those who were not attacked by bears. Then people started to say they were attacked by bears just to get jerky. Then they sold the jerky to get hard cider. Pretty soon people who were attacked by bears couldn’t get jerky because the jerky jerks got it all. And that’s where we are today.”

And that makes more sense than half of what he says….

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:48:26pm
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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:48:39pm

re: #122 teleskiguy

BREAKING: President Barack Obama expected to visit Cuba in March.
8:57 PM - 17 Feb 2016

Wingnuts be like

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So many scattered brains all over the place.

There is no shortage of 2nd gen Cuban-Americans ready to do business with a non-embargoed Cuba.

Suspect the major worry is how long until the Cuban Adjustment Act (Wet Foot Dry Foot) is rescinded.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:48:47pm

re: #163 Reality Based Steve

I made sweet, sweet love to her in college. Now, she would deny even knowing me. Sigh.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:49:38pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:51:45pm

re: #169 Charles Johnson

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Lovely.

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:51:53pm

re: #169 Charles Johnson

Wait… what is Fox News?

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Lidane  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:52:39pm
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danarchy  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:53:09pm

re: #149 freetoken

TYT complaining that this is an infomercial for the Republicans.

Yes, but that is not a bug, it’s the feature.

What the heck is TYT?

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:53:48pm

re: #169 Charles Johnson

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I read about that earlier today. A web site with the cajones to fight against trolls and haters, from Rupert Murdoch. I guess the domain name irony.com was already taken.

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:54:04pm

re: #171 freetoken

Wait… what is Fox News?

What is Fox News? He is supposed to be Fair and Balanced. Some say his father was Australian. Nobody believed he was real. Nobody ever saw him or knew anybody that ever worked directly for him, but to hear Kobayashi tell it, anybody could have worked for Fox. You never knew. That was his power. The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist. And like that, poof. He’s gone.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:54:41pm
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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:54:42pm

re: #173 danarchy

What the heck is TYT?

The Young Turks - they livestream the audio of the townhall while commenting…

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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:54:56pm

re: #139 teleskiguy

Gonna go bowling with some folks from the ski shop. Who should I be tonight, Walter Sobchak or Ernie “Big Ern” McCracken?

The Big Lebowski - Jesus scene

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Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:55:02pm

re: #163 Reality Based Steve

OT… I’m watching a BBC series called “The Stories of Maths”, and it’s got me wanting to go and do an online calculus class. It kicked my ass severely in college, and now is time for a rematch. To me it seemed like we are dividing infinity by 0 then taking the square root of that.

RBS

That’s the actual measurement of the bottom of the Derp Hole. You do not want to go there.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:56:40pm

I thought town halls were supposed to mostly be about taking questions from townspeople. Silly me.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:56:48pm

re: #172 Lidane

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I can totally see him with a popped collar.

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:57:52pm

That was painful. Anderson Cooper whoring himself out. Anderson could have been replaced by Vanna White and she would have done better.

But this was about CNN wanting ratings, and they sought this out. It really is an infomercial for the GOP.

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Bensoner  Feb 17, 2016 • 7:58:21pm

I used to buy into the theory that Trump was a joke or even a plant. Stopped believing it after he did so well in the polls and said such awful racist things. Now that he’s going after W. on Iraq and 9/11, I’m starting to wonder again if he’s trolling the GOP. Explicitly referencing torture in this way could be another example of trolling. But more likely that’s wishful thinking unfortunately…

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:01:09pm

Oh, I get it. It was all a trap to get me to watch Don Lemon.

Fuck you, CNN.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:01:19pm

Too bad our stenographers media doesn’t call out The Donald on his noxious behavior during the Central Park Jogger Case.

But examples of overt racism were perhaps kept behind closed doors in the late 1980s.

One year after the Central Park Five were convicted, John O’Donnell, a former executive who ran Trump Plaza hotel and casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey, published a tell-all alluding to his former boss’s casual racism behind closed doors.

He quoted Trump as saying: “I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”

In a later interview with Playboy magazine, Trump labelled his former employee a “fucking loser” but added: “The stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”

Trump is the political Honey Badger-“He don’t care, he don’t give a shit.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:01:23pm

re: #159 Patricia Kayden

And?

YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

You Can’t Handle the Truth! - A Few Good Men (7/8) Movie CLIP (1992) HD

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Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:01:28pm
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Lidane  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:01:40pm

re: #182 freetoken

That was painful. Anderson Cooper whoring himself out. Anderson could have been replaced by Vanna White and she would have done better.

But this was about CNN wanting ratings, and they sought this out. It really is an infomercial for the GOP.

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Kragar  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:02:18pm

re: #154 De Kolta Chair

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:02:41pm
Or maybe you’re just a strange simpleton?
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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:03:35pm

re: #187 Charles Johnson

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So thinking torture is wrong means you want to hold hands with terrorists and go kumbaya. Uh no. Man these people are helpless.Fucking hlelpless.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:04:54pm

re: #183 Bensoner

I used to buy into the theory that Trump was a joke or even a plant. Stopped believing it after he did so well in the polls and said such awful racist things. Now that he’s going after W. on Iraq and 9/11, I’m starting to wonder again if he’s trolling the GOP. Explicitly referencing torture in this way could be another example of trolling. But more likely that’s wishful thinking unfortunately…

Welcome, hatchling!

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:05:18pm

re: #189 Kragar

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Don’t tell anybody at The American Conservative. Those other religions aren’t real if they didn’t cite some Greek guy in the bronze age.

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Lidane  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:05:23pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:06:52pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:08:30pm

re: #194 Lidane

So Fallows is advocating a massive ratfucking campaign against the GOP to make Cruz it’s nominee.

Uh-huh. Yeah. That’ll work.

/

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Kilroy01  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:11:20pm

re: #190 De Kolta Chair
So Ayn Rand worked for Dr Evil?


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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:12:33pm

re: #197 Kilroy01

So Ayn Rand worked for Dr Evil?

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She does kind of look like Frau. That does make me wonder, if Rosa Klebb, the real inspiration for Frau was inspired by Ayn Rand in anyway. Probably just a coiincidence but the character is Russian IIRC From Russia With Love.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:15:55pm

re: #183 Bensoner

I used to buy into the theory that Trump was a joke or even a plant. Stopped believing it after he did so well in the polls and said such awful racist things. Now that he’s going after W. on Iraq and 9/11, I’m starting to wonder again if he’s trolling the GOP. Explicitly referencing torture in this way could be another example of trolling. But more likely that’s wishful thinking unfortunately…

As a New Yorker, I can assure you that for ages The Donald has been trolling the taxpayer via tax abatements and exemptions and the shirking of other civic duties that the average citizen takes for granted. That’s his shtick: avoiding responsibility and making buko bucks off of it.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:16:09pm

Jeb? hangs by a thread. Two polls of the SC primary show him within striking distance of Cruz and Rubio for second; the rest show him battling for fourth with Kasich and Carson. A shift of a few thousand votes either way will decide if his campaign survives to Super Tuesday or not.

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:18:51pm

Well gang, I’m off to bed. Study for a while and then turn off the light and sleep the sleep of the innocent. (Damned if I know how I manage to pull that off… but not complaining).

Catch you all later on. Remember, keep your stick on the ice.

RBS

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:20:32pm

re: #200 Big Beautiful Door

I believe that the powers that be can make Rubio the nominee, still.

At least that is clearly the plan.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:21:32pm

re: #172 Lidane

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Lot of Dean Wormer in Cruz.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:23:47pm

re: #202 freetoken

I believe that the powers that be can make Rubio the nominee, still.

At least that is clearly the plan.

That requires a quick elimination of other candidates so that the anti-Trump vote can coalesce. If Rubio could manage a clear second place finish in SC, it would hugely facilitate that process.

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BeachDem  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:26:53pm

re: #200 Big Beautiful Door

Jeb? hangs by a thread. Two polls of the SC primary show him within striking distance of Cruz and Rubio for second; the rest show him battling for fourth with Kasich and Carson. A shift of a few thousand votes either way will decide if his campaign survives to Super Tuesday or not.

Tonight’s SC television spots (and I only watched TV for about an hour—none of the clowns; thought I’d be safe on Food Network or HGTV, but NOOO)
Right to Rise—anti-Rubio ad
Right to Rise—anti-Kasich ad
Club for Growth—anti-Trump/pro Jeb ad
Trey Gowdy mush-mouthing through a Rubio ad
and/as a palate cleanser
a really good Hillary ad about systemic racism

Thank dog I didn’t have to see the Cruz ad with the Trump action figure (that looks more like Cruz than trump) knocking over a doll house. Last night it gave me nightmares.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:27:10pm

re: #178 BeenHereAwhile

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Video

I never realized what an asshole Walter is. And I just now caught that the song was a Spanish version of Hotel California. I hate the fuckin’ Eagles! LOL

There’s always something new in The Big Lebowski.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:29:21pm

re: #201 Reality Based Steve

Catch you all later on. Remember, keep your stick on the ice.

Speaking of which, only 31 days until Bobby Orr’s birthday! ;-)

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:30:19pm

re: #205 BeachDem

Tonight’s SC television spots (and I only watched TV for about an hour—none of the clowns; thought I’d be safe on Food Network or HGTV, but NOOO)
Right to Rise—anti-Rubio ad
Right to Rise—anti-Kasich ad
Club for Growth—anti-Trump/pro Jeb ad
Trey Gowdy mush-mouthing through a Rubio ad
and/as a palate cleanser
a really good Hillary ad about systemic racism

Thank dog I didn’t have to see the Cruz ad with the Trump action figure (that looks more like Cruz than trump) knocking over a doll house. Last night it gave me nightmares.

I feel for you. We don’t usually see presidential campaign commercials in Kentucky since our vote rarely matters.

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Jenner7  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:31:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:33:17pm

re: #209 Jenner7

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This is correct.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:35:22pm

“Torture works, okay folks?…Believe me, it works.”

I’d rather believe John McCain.

In any case, Trump’s enthusiasm for torture raises an important question: What else does the Donald want to do that we used to hang war criminals for?

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BeachDem  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:35:41pm

re: #208 Big Beautiful Door

I feel for you. We don’t usually see presidential campaign commercials in Kentucky since our vote rarely matters.

Not only the ads, but the klowns are here every fucking day, rambling from town to town, spreading their bullshit far and wide. Good for the hotels and restaurants and media (ad buys have been astronomical), but painful for the rest of us.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:35:52pm

re: #211 Shiplord Kirel

“Torture works, okay folks?…Believe me, it works.”

I’d rather believe John McCain.

In any case, Trump’s enthusiasm for torture raises an important question: What else does the Donald want to do that we used to hang war criminals for?

Gas chambers?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:36:14pm

re: #212 BeachDem

Not only the ads, but the klowns are here every fucking day, rambling from town to town, spreading their bullshit far and wide. Good for the hotels and restaurants and media (ad buys have been astronomical), but painful for the rest of us.

Almost over but I know it’s gotta be frustrating as hell.

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Bensoner  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:40:14pm

re: #192 Big Beautiful Door

Thanks! I’ve been coming to this site for years and really value the posts and comments here. Finally decided to take the plunge and get an account to join the fun.

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BeachDem  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:40:56pm

re: #214 HappyWarrior

Almost over but I know it’s gotta be frustrating as hell.

Just hope we’ve done enough outreach to the Dems to make sure they know our primary is the 27th, so they don’t go out to vote this Saturday, realize it’s the Repubs primary and say fuckit and vote in theirs.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:42:19pm

re: #216 BeachDem

Just hope we’ve done enough outreach to the Dems to make sure they know our primary is the 27th, so they don’t go out to vote this Saturday, realize it’s the Repubs primary and say fuckit and vote in theirs.

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Hopefully. It would be a lot less confusing if they just had these on the same day.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:44:23pm

re: #211 Shiplord Kirel

“Torture works, okay folks?…Believe me, it works.”

I’d rather believe John McCain.

In any case, Trump’s enthusiasm for torture raises an important question: What else does the Donald want to do that we used to hang war criminals for?

I actually cited McCain along with an Army Lt when i did a paper on torture in college. You know, people who actually know something about torture rather than a demagogue asshole who thinks his womanizing is equivalent to what people went through serving in Vietnam.

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Tigger2  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:44:53pm

re: #215 Bensoner

Thanks! I’ve been coming to this site for years and really value the posts and comments here. Finally decided to take the plunge and get an account to join the fun.

Sometimes you just have to feel it to plunge in. : )) Welcome

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:45:07pm

re: #190 De Kolta Chair

No one with a working brain cares what you think, Ms. Rosenbaum.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:46:50pm

re: #216 BeachDem

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Stanley Sea  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:49:11pm

OK, I’m going to leave you late-nighters. Have a good one!

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BeachDem  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:51:49pm

re: #221 Stanley Sea

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:53:36pm
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Feb 17, 2016 • 9:05:34pm

re: #139 teleskiguy

Gonna go bowling with some folks from the ski shop. Who should I be tonight, Walter Sobchak or Ernie “Big Ern” McCracken?

Sometimes when I get breakfast, Big Ern’s already there!

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Feb 17, 2016 • 9:07:34pm

re: #159 Patricia Kayden

And?

It’s a small section of an island, not the fucking Panama canal. I don’t get where this agnst about giving Gitmo back comes from.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Feb 17, 2016 • 9:10:35pm

re: #165 nines09

“Then they killed the bear and made jerky and sold the fur. Then the jerky ran out and they had to support the family. That’s when goverment got involved. They gave out jerky even to those who were not attacked by bears. Then people started to say they were attacked by bears just to get jerky. Then they sold the jerky to get hard cider. Pretty soon people who were attacked by bears couldn’t get jerky because the jerky jerks got it all. And that’s where we are today.”

And that makes more sense than half of what he says….

Yeah, that’s some authentic frontier gibberish Ben’s dishing out.

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unproven innocence  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:39:51am

re: #11 Snarknado!

Has anyone asked Trump just how he knows torture works?

He’s already explained that he’s a great negotiator and has billions of dollars. Are you sure you want to know?

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unproven innocence  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:37:20am

re: #185 Eric The Fruit Bat

Too bad our stenographers media doesn’t call out The Donald on his noxious behavior during the Central Park Jogger Case.

Trump is the political Honey Badger-“He don’t care, he don’t give a shit.”

Quote from the video: Police obtained the confessions by force.


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