Trump Attacks Hillary’s Health: “Think Hillary Would Be Able to Stand Up Here for an Hour?”

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I have to admit I thought he’d be attacking Hillary for having pneumonia before this. His campaign put out the word to refrain from mentioning her health after that fainting episode on 9/11, and they kept Trump on the leash for three whole days before he couldn’t stop himself any more.

I don’t know, folks, ya think Hillary would be able to stand up here for an hour and do this? I dunno…

UPDATE at 9/14/16 6:40:58 pm by Charles Johnson

Would you be surprised to learn that Trump was even lying about how hot it was in that arena?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 14, 2016 • 4:59:07pm

Alright, who had Wednesday in the pool?

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(alpuz)  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:00:26pm

re: #1 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Tuesday did.

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lawhawk  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:01:44pm

What’s Trump going to say when Clinton wipes the walls with him at the debate (yeah, that’s upcoming). She’s going to be doing laps around the pudgy bastard who’s skin tone is unhealthy to say the least. And that doesn’t even begin to touch on the mental health aspects.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:01:55pm

Hillary answered bullshit questions about Benghazi for 11 FUCKING HOURS.

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danarchy  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:03:34pm

re: #4 The Vicious Babushka

Hillary answered bullshit questions about Benghazi for 11 FUCKING HOURS.

Body double obviously

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insert_funny  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:06:21pm

You mean they have Trumplestiltskin live in the little window, and on tape oranging up the rest of the screen!? What in the actual flipping f*** is going on here?

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Anymouse  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:06:35pm

Prudishness is not limited to the USA’s conservatives:

English woman has sexy knickers snatched off clothesline for being too close to a primary school (goes to Huffington Post)

She’s also endured complaints to her local council about hanging her underclothes on her line.

She lives in a small village that is apparently more uptight than my own.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:08:52pm

re: #4 The Vicious Babushka

Hillary answered bullshit questions about Benghazi for 11 FUCKING HOURS.

“But she wasn’t standing.”

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:09:42pm

Kurt Eichenwald is on the Chris Hayes show right now talking about Trump’s extensive shady overseas business dealings.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:10:34pm
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Mattand  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:11:56pm

re: #4 The Vicious Babushka

Hillary answered bullshit questions about Benghazi for 11 FUCKING HOURS.

My first thought as well.

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Skip Intro  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:13:02pm

Beyond parody.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:13:19pm

re: #4 The Vicious Babushka

Hillary answered bullshit questions about Benghazi for 11 FUCKING HOURS.

She’s even tougher than a General.

General Petraeus Passing Out During Senate Armed Services Committee meeting 6-15-10

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:15:21pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

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Christ, what an asshole.

I bet the press give this one a pass too.

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Mattand  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:15:45pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Kurt Eichenwald is on the Chris Hayes show right now talking about Trump’s extensive shady overseas business dealings.

My relief that actual journalists are bringing Trump’s bullshit out into the open is tempered by my sadness that what Eichenwald is saying won’t make one bit of difference to a huge swath of America. Particularly our nation’s oh-so-precious-fucking “independent” voters.

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petesh  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:17:17pm

re: #12 Skip Intro

Beyond parody.

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Increasingly, he looks like someone trying to imitate his own idea of what a Preznit oughta look like.

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VegasGolfer  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:17:32pm

re: #4 The Vicious Babushka

Hillary answered bullshit questions about Benghazi for 11 FUCKING HOURS.

But she was sitting down..

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TedStriker  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:17:35pm

re: #2 (alpuz)

Tuesday did.

Tuesday’s gone with the wind…

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Mike Lamb  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:17:39pm

re: #11 Mattand

My first thought as well.

She was sitting. ..

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:18:35pm

re: #2 (alpuz)

Tuesday did.

Sunday’s on the phone to Monday. Tuesday’s on the phone to me….

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Interesting Times  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:18:36pm

What will all the polls-from-hell dropping today and resulting panic attacks (me including - what the actual fuck, America?!?) I decided to google which poll was the most accurate in 2012. PPP won out, so I went to their website and, based on a quick skim, there’s this:

This is something we’re consistently finding in our polling- the voters who are undecided vastly prefer continuing the direction of Obama to the sharp pivot of Trump’s vision for the country. These folks don’t like Hillary Clinton or they’d already be voting for her, but it seems likely for most of these folks the choice is Clinton, third party, or stay home. The least likely possibility is that they’ll end up in Trump’s column and that means if he’s going to come back, he’s probably not going to do it by winning over undecideds.

That was re Virginia. This is what they have to say re Florida:

PPP’s newest Florida poll finds a very tight race for President in the state. In the full field Donald Trump gets 44% to 43% for Hillary Clinton, with Gary Johnson at 5%, and Jill Stein and Evan McMullin each at 1%. But in a head to head between Clinton and Trump, the nominal lead flips to Clinton at 47/46. That’s because voters who support one of the minor candidates or are undecided in the full field pick Clinton by 12 points over Trump if they had to choose just between the two major candidates.

So…here’s hoping everyone who speculated that people won’t want to throw away their votes on third parties come election day are correct.

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Skip Intro  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:18:37pm

re: #15 Mattand

My relief that actual journalists are bringing Trump’s bullshit out into the open is tempered by my sadness that what Eichenwald is saying won’t make one bit of difference to a huge swath of America. Particularly our nation’s oh-so-precious-fucking “independent” voters.

It won’t make any difference to our media of Trump sycophants either, and that’s where the real danger is.

He could put his tiny hands all over any woman he chose, on camera, and the media would start talking about Bill Clinton.

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:18:47pm

You know what, I honestly couldn’t give a damn if Hillary wasn’t able to stand for five minutes. We’re electing her for her mind, not her body. She could be a brain in a jar for all I care.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:20:08pm

re: #15 Mattand

Trump can go shoot someone on 5th Avenue, and his current supporters will not waver. All this charity stuff is meaningless to them.

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TedStriker  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:20:54pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

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re: #14 Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)

Christ, what an asshole.

I bet the press give this one a pass too.

No way, there’s got to be no way that’s an actual, real quote from Cheeto Jesus, is it?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:21:33pm

re: #23 Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)

We’ve already got Bill… well… in 984 more years…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:21:35pm

re: #7 Anymouse

Prudishness is not limited to the USA’s conservatives:

English woman has sexy knickers snatched off clothesline for being too close to a primary school (goes to Huffington Post)

She’s also endured complaints to her local council about hanging her underclothes on her line.

She lives in a small village that is apparently more uptight than my own.

In Spokane it is (or maybe just used to be) illegal to hang men’s and women’s underwear on the same clothesline.

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Unabogie  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:22:15pm

re: #23 Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)

I read that the debates are going to be replaced by a push-up contest because all that matters is physical stamina and feats of strength.

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Skip Intro  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:23:59pm

re: #6 insert_funny

You mean they have Trumplestiltskin live in the little window, and on tape oranging up the rest of the screen!? What in the actual flipping f*** is going on here?

Trump was right. The election is fixed.

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TedStriker  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:24:09pm

re: #23 Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)

You know what, I honestly couldn’t give a damn if Hillary wasn’t able to stand for five minutes. We’re electing her for her mind, not her body. She could be a brain in a jar for all I care.

Head in a Jar Nixon (or Clinton or Carter or Ford) for President (again)!

/Futurama

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:25:37pm

re: #29 Skip Intro

The election is fixed.

That’s what Jesse Ventura claims will be the case should she win.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:25:44pm

Youtube Video

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:25:47pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:25:47pm

re: #15 Mattand

My relief that actual journalists are bringing Trump’s bullshit out into the open is tempered by my sadness that what Eichenwald is saying won’t make one bit of difference to a huge swath of America. Particularly our nation’s oh-so-precious-fucking “independent” voters.

Many of these independents are just shy Republicans. That’s easy enough to understand. If I still voted Republican, the last thing I’d do is admit it in public.

True independents are impossible to me to understand, especially the lefty purity morons. They are offered two sandwiches. One is seasoned with mustard and they hate mustard. The other is seasoned with arsenic and ground glass. They think their hate of mustard makes it rational to dine on arsenic and ground glass.

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Tigger2  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:27:18pm
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Unabogie  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:28:44pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

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Dude, you should be using package managers for everything. Bower/npm for JavaScript.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:31:06pm

Flint Pastor Demonstrates That You Can Get Donald Trump to Shut the Fuck Up

All over the nation, Americans who have been in gatherings for Trump have to be thinking, “Wait, wait, wait. You mean we can do that? We can just tell him to shut the fuck up? That’s a thing?”

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:31:57pm

re: #21 Interesting Times

What will all the polls-from-hell dropping today and resulting panic attacks (me including - what the actual fuck, America?!?) I decided to google which poll was the most accurate in 2012. PPP won out, so I went to their website and, based on a quick skim, there’s this:

That was re Virginia. This is what they have to say re Florida:

So…here’s hoping everyone who speculated that people won’t want to throw away their votes on third parties come election day are correct.

“Gary Johnson” and “Jill Stein” when translated from 2016 to 2000 mean “Ralph Nader”

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Stanley Sea  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:34:24pm

Someone replied to JoshTPM that right now is very similar to after the first debate in 2012. Remember how fucked up we felt?

Hillary will pull through this shitshow.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:35:07pm

re: #36 Unabogie

Dude, you should be using package managers for everything. Bower/npm for JavaScript.

I am - Composer was the last hurdle. I’m working on a cross-posting app for Medium, and the PHP SDK was giving me major headaches because it basically depends on Composer.

It’s great to just have one autoloader that loads all required class files.

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calochortus  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:35:21pm

If Trump feels as good as he did when he was 30, he must have been in lousy shape back then.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:39:36pm

re: #41 calochortus

If Trump feels as good as he did when he was 30, he must have been in lousy shape back then.

He’s LYING of course.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:41:57pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

I am - Composer was the last hurdle. I’m working on a cross-posting app for Medium, and the PHP SDK was giving me major headaches because it basically depends on Composer.

It’s great to just have one autoloader that loads all required class files.

at one time (long ago) i programmed on hollerith cards and channeled paper tape. i was also fluent in more than a dozen programming languages (yeah ok only 2, 3, and 4 gls)

i have no effin idea what you said or what it means

doesnt mean i couldnt learn it. just that im clueless

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whitebeach  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:43:33pm

re: #41 calochortus

If Trump feels as good as he did when he was 30, he must have been in lousy shape back then.

Well, a few years before that he was already so unhealthy that the army gave him a 4-F exemption from the draft. I don’t know what keeps the flabby old bastard hanging on, and I say that as a FOB myself.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:44:11pm

OK ya’ll.

@fahrenthold is searching for a painting

(damn it, tweet won’t post because I’m putting text in)

It was shipped to Trump National Golf Club Westchester in Briarcliff Manor, N.Y.

I do not know facebook at all. You who do, do a search. There is someone who saw that painting & posted it. I have no doubt.

His tweet, next comment.

GET TO WORK

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Stanley Sea  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:44:27pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:44:44pm

re: #14 Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)

Yeah I am beginning to reisgn myself to this. No matter how much any of us work, the media is dead set on Trump becoming president.

Which leaves nowhere on the Planet for me.

Europe hates Muslims, Canada doesn’t take Autistic Immigrants (and the Autism makes it incredibly difficult to learn a second language), and the Muslim World is still such a catastrophic mess that someone as Liberal as myself would end up in Jail.

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Tigger2  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:44:47pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:47:38pm

re: #43 dangerman

at one time (long ago) i programmed on hollerith cards and channeled paper tape. i was also fluent in more than a dozen programming languages (yeah ok only 2, 3, and 4 gls)

i have no effin idea what you said or what it means

doesnt mean i couldnt learn it. just that im clueless

Composer is an application that lets you easily manage the software libraries you use with PHP. Once it’s installed, it takes care of loading all the required files and all the files they depend on, and it also makes it super easy to update to the latest versions of everything you use.

It basically removes a lot of the manual labor from PHP programming and lets you focus on the code.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:48:21pm

PRESIDENTIAL AILMENTS:

WOODROW WILSON: Stroke
FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT: Polio
DWIGHT EISENHOWER: Heart attack
JOHN F. KENNEDY: Excruciating back pain
RONALD REAGAN: Alzheimer’s
GEORGE H. W. BUSH: Vomited on Japanese PM
GEORGE W. BUSH: Choked on a pretzel (also mentally challenged)

But tell me about Hillary’s pneumonia.

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EPR-radar  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:48:28pm

re: #48 Ziggy_TARDIS

Yeah I am beginning to reisgn myself to this. No matter how much any of us work, the media is dead set on Trump becoming president.

Which leaves nowhere on the Planet for me.

Europe hates Muslims, Canada doesn’t take Autistic Immigrants (and the Autism makes it incredibly difficult to learn a second language), and the Muslim World is still such a catastrophic mess that someone as Liberal as myself would end up in Jail.

The media has their thumb on the scale, but they aren’t the deciders here. There’s no need to prematurely panic and despair.

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Anymouse  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:50:14pm

re: #48 Ziggy_TARDIS

Yeah I am beginning to reisgn myself to this. No matter how much any of us work, the media is dead set on Trump becoming president.

Which leaves nowhere on the Planet for me.

Europe hates Muslims, Canada doesn’t take Autistic Immigrants (and the Autism makes it incredibly difficult to learn a second language), and the Muslim World is still such a catastrophic mess that someone as Liberal as myself would end up in Jail.

Well, the media dead set on Trump does not make Trump president, votes do. They were dead set on Romney over Obama as well.

Remember that though the media made a pile of money on Trump’s rise, they will make an equal pile of money tearing him apart. As soon as the first media outlet of significance weighs in, the rest will follow because they don’t want to be scooped or lose money.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:50:59pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

Composer is an application that lets you easily manage the software libraries you use with PHP. Once it’s installed, it takes care of loading all the required files and all the files they depend on, and it also makes it super easy to update to the latest versions of everything you use.

It basically removes a lot of the manual labor from PHP programming and lets you focus on the code.

quietly googles ‘php programming’…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:51:07pm

re: #48 Ziggy_TARDIS

Yeah I am beginning to reisgn myself to this. No matter how much any of us work, the media is dead set on Trump becoming president.

Which leaves nowhere on the Planet for me.

Europe hates Muslims, Canada doesn’t take Autistic Immigrants (and the Autism makes it incredibly difficult to learn a second language), and the Muslim World is still such a catastrophic mess that someone as Liberal as myself would end up in Jail.

As I said yesterday, the Media’s usual Magic Balance Fairy crap morphed into their current frantic push to get Trump elected after he threatened to launch The Trump Network™ if he loses. They figure if they can get him in the White House, they can put off that competition for eight years, anyway.

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VegasGolfer  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:51:08pm

re: #45 dangerman

It shouldn’t take a hack to get Colin Powell and other Republicans’ true thoughts on Trump

LA times

RNC. Party before country.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:51:27pm

re: #52 EPR-radar

The media has their thumb on the scale, but they aren’t the deciders here. There’s no need to prematurely panic and despair.

It’s nice that you’re still trying to point out reality.

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Unabogie  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:51:38pm

re: #43 dangerman

at one time (long ago) i programmed on hollerith cards and channeled paper tape. i was also fluent in more than a dozen programming languages (yeah ok only 2, 3, and 4 gls)

i have no effin idea what you said or what it means

doesnt mean i couldnt learn it. just that im clueless

What Charles said. But also, package managers allow a developer of an open source library to make the library available in a central repository. Node.js is a popular platform for running JavaScript back ends, and npm (Node Package Manager) allows people to publish their libraries in a way that Node can use them. Since Node uses JavaScript (the language that web browsers understand), you can also use npm to publish libraries for the web. When a library is updated, developers can run a single command and they’ll get the latest code.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:52:21pm

re: #53 Anymouse

Well, the media dead set on Trump does not make Trump president, votes do. They were dead set on Romney over Obama as well.

Remember that though the media made a pile of money on Trump’s rise, they will make an equal pile of money tearing him apart. As soon as the first media outlet of significance weighs in, the rest will follow because they don’t want to be scooped or lose money.

ive been waiting for this for quite some time

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:54:10pm

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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:54:26pm

re: #41 calochortus

If Trump feels as good as he did when he was 30, he must have been in lousy shape back then.

Well, he was recovering from his own private Vietnam.

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EPR-radar  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:54:54pm

re: #57 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s nice that you’re still trying to point out reality.

The debates this year might end up being more important than usual. If the Clinton campaign decides that goading Trump into a carpet-chewing frenzy in the first debate is what it will take to get the media to start reporting at last, then I think that’s exactly what they will try to do.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:55:33pm

re: #55 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

As I said yesterday, the Media’s usual Magic Balance Fairy crap morphed into their current frantic push to get Trump elected after he threatened to launch The Trump NetworkTM if he loses. They figure if they can get him in the White House, they can put off that competition for eight years, anyway.

maybe his network woudl be a threat - maybe not
why would most of the media act in unison though?
and how does that explain print media?
no one’s got guts anymore? or they just havent figured how to monetize taking the high ground?

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Anymouse  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:55:44pm

re: #61 BeachDem

Well, he was recovering from his own private Vietnam.

STD’s were his private Vietnam.

I got your private Vietnam up there in my avatar, Mr. Trump.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:56:01pm

re: #60 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:56:19pm

re: #53 Anymouse

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re: #55 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:56:23pm

re: #46 Stanley Sea

OK ya’ll.

@fahrenthold is searching for a painting

(damn it, tweet won’t post because I’m putting text in)

It was shipped to Trump National Golf Club Westchester in Briarcliff Manor, N.Y.

I do not know facebook at all. You who do, do a search. There is someone who saw that painting & posted it. I have no doubt.

His tweet, next comment.

GET TO WORK

Damn—if this had come out in May, I could have done my own private investigation while spending a month in Westchester!

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EPR-radar  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:56:48pm

re: #60 Ziggy_TARDIS

You definitely shouldn’t pay too much attention to the polls right now. We still haven’t had the debates (or debate cancellation) yet, and it is so obvious that the media wants their damn horse race.

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calochortus  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:57:41pm

re: #61 BeachDem

Well, he was recovering from his own private Vietnam.

True. A heavy burden, I’m sure.

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Interesting Times  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:57:51pm

re: #62 EPR-radar

The debates this year might end up being more important than usual. If the Clinton campaign decides that goading Trump into a carpet-chewing frenzy in the first debate is what it will take to get the media to start reporting at last, then I think that’s exactly what they will try to do.

What’s to stop trump from simply raising his voice and constantly interrupting/talking over her?

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:58:01pm

re: #58 Unabogie

What Charles said. But also, package managers allow a developer of an open source library to make the library available in a central repository. Node.js is a popular platform for running JavaScript back ends, and npm (Node Package Manager) allows people to publish their libraries in a way that Node can use them. Since Node uses JavaScript (the language that web browsers understand), you can also use npm to publish libraries for the web. When a library is updated, developers can run a single command and they’ll get the latest code.

got it. sorta
thank you and charles both
i think i’ll leave this to the pros

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:58:30pm

When you’ve lost David Gergen:

‘Ludicrous on its face’: David Gergen bursts with disgust for Trump’s Dr. Oz fiasco

David Gergen: Trump made election a national joke

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Anymouse  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:58:34pm

re: #63 dangerman

maybe his network woudl be a threat - maybe not
why would most of the media act in unison though?
and how does that explain print media?
no one’s got guts anymore? or they just havent figured how to monetize taking the high ground?

At the moment, his “network” is a bunch of speculation.

The media will not act in unison for the same reason they never do: Each outlet is trying to outdo the other. Sooner or later one of them is going to start tearing apart Mr. Trump, and that will make that outlet stand out from the others.
As for print media, I cannot say. My local paper is heavily-GOP leaning. As for the New York Times, they’ve had what appears to be a vendetta against the Clintons for a while. The Washington Post is starting to become more critical of Mr. Trump, as are outlets like the Economist.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:59:05pm

re: #68 EPR-radar

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calochortus  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:59:26pm

BBIAB

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EPR-radar  Sep 14, 2016 • 5:59:44pm

re: #70 Interesting Times

What’s to stop trump from simply raising his voice and constantly interrupting/talking over her?

Probably nothing. However, I’m quite sure that the Clinton campaign is planning for that as one of the possibilities to prepare for. She will also not be caught by surprise if Trump tries a Gish gallop like Romney did in his first debate ‘win’ vs. Obama.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:00:09pm

re: #73 Anymouse

ABC is stilling peddling this:

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:00:54pm

re: #74 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:00:55pm

And the media is just allowing this to stand.

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EPR-radar  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:01:51pm

re: #74 Ziggy_TARDIS

All I’m saying is that this is too early to panic. If we have really shitty polling in late Oct. then plan accordingly. Between now and then, the media just wants to sell ad time at the best rate.

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TedStriker  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:02:15pm

re: #76 EPR-radar

Probably nothing. However, I’m quite sure that the Clinton campaign is planning for that as one of the possibilities to prepare for. She will also not be caught by surprise if Trump tries a Gish gallop like Romney did in his first debate ‘win’ vs. Obama.

She needs to pack an air horn away at her podium.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:02:15pm

re: #67 BeachDem

Damn—if this had come out in May, I could have done my own private investigation while spending a month in Westchester!

DAMN IT TO HELL.

Anything fuck up that needs your immediate review? Nah, they’ve pulled that painting off the wall yesterday.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:02:29pm

re: #70 Interesting Times

What’s to stop trump from simply raising his voice and constantly interrupting/talking over her?

isolation booths?

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:03:33pm

re: #60 Ziggy_TARDIS

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You probably shouldn’t look at the polls then. Clinton is leading, and there is so much damaging stuff about Trump building up I feel like the dam is getting ready to burst and spill it all out.

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Anymouse  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:03:36pm

re: #66 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:03:40pm
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Anymouse  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:04:57pm

re: #75 calochortus

What does that mean?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:05:25pm

re: #85 Anymouse

I want Trump supporters to suffer for this after the election.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:05:57pm

re: #77 Ziggy_TARDIS

ABC is stilling peddling this:

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getting away with it by saying “in her view”

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:06:23pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:06:41pm

re: #88 Ziggy_TARDIS

I want Trump supporters to suffer for this after the election.

Not any more acceptable than any of the other times you have done it.

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EPR-radar  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:07:34pm

re: #88 Ziggy_TARDIS

I want Trump supporters to suffer for this after the election.

May they have long lives filled with debilitating psychosomatic symptoms from choking on their own bile as they see the nation decisively reject their views.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:10:57pm

re: #72 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

When you’ve lost David Gergen:

‘Ludicrous on its face’: David Gergen bursts with disgust for Trump’s Dr. Oz fiasco

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I LOVE David Gergen. I’ve said before, he has the smoothest voice on cable news. I remember listening to him when Obama won in 2008.

He’s fair.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:11:08pm

re: #60 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:11:34pm

re: #94 Sherlock Hound

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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:12:36pm

re: #74 Ziggy_TARDIS

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TedStriker  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:13:15pm

re: #88 Ziggy_TARDIS

Not cool…too much vagueness that someone could read into to insinuate that you wish harm to come to people even as odious as Trumpsters.

re: #92 EPR-radar

May they have long lives filled with debilitating psychosomatic symptoms from choking on their own bile as they see the nation decisively reject their views.

See, PLL, this is the way to do it.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:13:38pm

re: #96 BeachDem

I need the ability to upding this lots.

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Anymouse  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:14:16pm

re: #88 Ziggy_TARDIS

I want Trump supporters to suffer for this after the election.

Well, I don’t want anyone to suffer. I do want people to realise that what they think Mr. Trump will give them could not possibly come to pass. I want them to see him as a con artist and decisively reject his message.

I am an atheist, but this Bible verse comes to mind:

1 Corinthians 13:11 King James Version (KJV)

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

Mr. Trump is appealing as a childish thing might appeal to a child (and 1st Corinthians is not his favourite book, that would be Two Corinthians walking into a bar).

At some point, a good number of his supporters are going to put away that childish thing, and the rest will return to the shadows from whence they came. The nation has survived far worse than Mr. Trump, and his extremist supporters (to be clear, all of them are not extremists) will go back under the rocks from whence they came as well.

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Interesting Times  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:15:24pm

re: #83 dangerman

isolation booths?

Ha, I was thinking of a variation on that very thing. As I recall, the first 2012 debate imposed time limits for responses/rebuttal, with some kind of warning light system (red/yellow/green). If they’re going to do that this time, they should cut the mike of whoever doesn’t have the floor at that moment.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:16:02pm

re: #94 Sherlock Hound

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childless aunts and uncles rule
we get into all kinds of trouble with our nieces/nephews and theres little our brothers/sisters can do in retaliation

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Mike Lamb  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:17:31pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

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Gack…this isn’t subjective.

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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:19:43pm

re: #98 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I need the ability to upding this lots.

Just don’t have a clove of garlic in your hand when you do! (Thanks)

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Stanley Sea  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:20:02pm

re: #74 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:20:35pm

re: #88 Ziggy_TARDIS

Nope. I don’t know how many times you need to be told that this kind of comment isn’t welcome.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:21:52pm

More …”journalism”… from the NYT:

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:22:10pm

re: #103 BeachDem

Just don’t have a clove of garlic in your hand when you do! (Thanks)

No worries, I’ll just eat it first. ;)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:25:58pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:27:48pm

re: #108 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Working the refs is the only plan the Trump campaign has.

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Interesting Times  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:28:37pm

re: #108 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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…in which Cosmo asks follow-up questions but the traditional MSM does not.

Shoot me now -_-

Then again, if Cosmo reaches more potential voters than the MSM anyway, never mind. I’ll take it.

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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:29:21pm

I know I often sound like a cheerleader for involvement, but it really is good for you. Few live in a redder state than south by dog carolina—1 out of 7 Representatives, no Senators, no statewide offices held by Dems. Little money, little hope of winning most contests, but our candidates work their asses off, traveling around the state, doing appearances and rallies, and putting forth great platforms that, if our citizens weren’t willing to vote for a fiddle fern as long as it had an R after its name, would be so good for our state and its people.

But they soldier on. Last night we had an opening for our county campaign office—probably close to 75 people showed and it was really great. Our Senate candidate, who has probably about a .0005% chance of beating Tim Scott, came up from Charleston to talk—he is a great candidate (Tom Dixon) and he has a great story and wonderful ideas. He has about $50,000 and Tim Scott has several million. Scott won’t debate him. But he’s the most upbeat, optimistic man I’ve ever met.

The only way we can ever win is if we show up and get in the game. It’s not going to happen anytime soon here, but it’s a wonderful feeling to be among like-minded people working to make things better for everyone. And eventually, we’ll start winning.

That concludes the cheerleading segment of our program. I now return you to gloom and doom of poll-watching.

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TedStriker  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:29:52pm

re: #100 Interesting Times

Ha, I was thinking of a variation on that very thing. As I recall, the first 2012 debate imposed time limits for responses/rebuttal, with some kind of warning light system (red/yellow/green). If they’re going to do that this time, they should cut the mike of whoever doesn’t have the floor at that moment.

I’d laugh my ass off if they cut Trump’s mike, but I doubt any of the debate hosts have the balls to do it.

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Anymouse  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:31:50pm

re: #108 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Perhaps Cosmopolitan is working on being that first media outlet (along with Newsweek to crack the Teflon around the Donald and his family?

First Newsweek, then Cosmo, the Economist has been going after him for a while on economic issues; the New York investigation into his foundation; I don’t think the Trump campaign is going to be able to hold back the damn much longer.

CNN is being pilloried for still having Lewandowski on their staff while working with the campaign, questions are arising around where the heck Cory Lewandowski and Katrina Pierson disappeared off to, more Republicans are publicly condemning Mr. Trump’s remarks.

It would seem there is only a matter of time before the fawning media bails on him.

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TedStriker  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:33:42pm

re: #111 BeachDem

I know I often sound like a cheerleader for involvement, but it really is good for you. Few live in a redder state than south by dog carolina—1 out of 7 Representatives, no Senators, no statewide offices held by Dems. Little money, little hope of winning most contests, but our candidates work their asses off, traveling around the state, doing appearances and rallies, and putting forth great platforms that, if our citizens weren’t willing to vote for a fiddle fern as long as it had an R after its name, would be so good for our state and its people.

But they soldier on. Last night we had an opening for our county campaign office—probably close to 75 people showed and it was really great. Our Senate candidate, who has probably about a .0005% chance of beating Tim Scott, came up from Charleston to talk—he is a great candidate (Tom Dixon) and he has a great story and wonderful ideas. He has about $50,000 and Tim Scott has several million. Scott won’t debate him. But he’s the most upbeat, optimistic man I’ve ever met.

The only way we can ever win is if we show up and get in the game. It’s not going to happen anytime soon here, but it’s a wonderful feeling to be among like-minded people working to make things better for everyone. And eventually, we’ll start winning.

That concludes the cheerleading segment of our program. I now return you to gloom and doom of poll-watching.

I’m in TN, so I feel your pain, though 2 of our 9 reps are Dems (Steve Cohen and, my rep, Jim Cooper). The rest of your post, bang on.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:34:02pm

re: #108 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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yes its quite clear - his proposal does not cover men.
same sex couples or otherwise
no leave time for the husband/man

the ramifications are just…wow

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Anymouse  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:35:26pm

re: #111 BeachDem

I know I often sound like a cheerleader for involvement, but it really is good for you. Few live in a redder state than south by dog carolina—1 out of 7 Representatives, no Senators, no statewide offices held by Dems. Little money, little hope of winning most contests, but our candidates work their asses off, traveling around the state, doing appearances and rallies, and putting forth great platforms that, if our citizens weren’t willing to vote for a fiddle fern as long as it had an R after its name, would be so good for our state and its people.

But they soldier on. Last night we had an opening for our county campaign office—probably close to 75 people showed and it was really great. Our Senate candidate, who has probably about a .0005% chance of beating Tim Scott, came up from Charleston to talk—he is a great candidate (Tom Dixon) and he has a great story and wonderful ideas. He has about $50,000 and Tim Scott has several million. Scott won’t debate him. But he’s the most upbeat, optimistic man I’ve ever met.

The only way we can ever win is if we show up and get in the game. It’s not going to happen anytime soon here, but it’s a wonderful feeling to be among like-minded people working to make things better for everyone. And eventually, we’ll start winning.

That concludes the cheerleading segment of our program. I now return you to gloom and doom of poll-watching.

Even as red as South Carolina is, Nebraska’s right there with you, and we managed to get the death penalty repealed in the last legislative session. What works is work; one of our state senators bailed out of the Republican Party and joined the Libertarian Party last month; cracks are appearing here.

In 2012 NE-2 went for President Obama, delivering him one electoral vote. (You would think you could not gerrymander a state with only three districts but you would be wrong.) NE-2 is likely to go for Hillary Clinton, and the race is close in NE-1. That would be enough to deliver four electoral votes to Mrs. Clinton out of our five; four votes the GOP cannot afford to give up (which is why Mrs. Clinton made a campaign stop here last month).

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:36:44pm

re: #115 dangerman

yes its quite clear - his proposal does not cover men.
same sex couples or otherwise
no leave time for the husband/man

the ramifications are just…wow

What, you mean the male is supposed to contribute something to childrearing besides the sperm?

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:37:29pm

re: #113 Anymouse

Perhaps Cosmopolitan is working on being that first media outlet (along with Newsweek to crack the Teflon around the Donald and his family?

First Newsweek, then Cosmo, the Economist has been going after him for a while on economic issues; the New York investigation into his foundation; I don’t think the Trump campaign is going to be able to hold back the damn much longer.

CNN is being pilloried for still having Lewandowski on their staff while working with the campaign, questions are arising around where the heck Cory Lewandowski and Katrina Pierson disappeared off to, more Republicans are publicly condemning Mr. Trump’s remarks.

It would seem there is only a matter of time before the fawning media bails on him.

that one is so, uh “transparent” someones gotta have something damaging on someone else. its such a naked, bonehead move for a network that cares at all about its image (ok never mind)

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:39:44pm

re: #117 klys (maker of Silmarils)

What, you mean the male is supposed to contribute something to childrearing besides the sperm?

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i was going the other direction
the thing is so sexist — women make the babies and get leave, men work / support the family.

it will keep women off the fast track to promotions and limit their upward mobility

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TedStriker  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:41:18pm

re: #118 dangerman

that one is so, uh “transparent” someones gotta have something damaging on someone else. its such a naked, bonehead move for a network that cares at all about its image (ok never mind)

The only good thing on CNN is Anthony Bourdain.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:41:32pm

re: #119 dangerman

i was going the other direction
the thing is so sexist — women make the babies and get leave, men work / support the family.

it will keep women off the fast track to promotions and limit their upward mobility

By Trump’s logic, that’s exactly how it’s supposed to be. And he’s said things before that make it clear he thinks men aren’t supposed to contribute at all to the actual “childrearing” portion of things.

Unfortunately this attitude is not limited to Trump.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:41:35pm

CNN Gives Trump The Lead In Ohio By Under Polling Voters Under 50 Years Old
 via Politicususa

“…Younger voters have made up 44%-51% of those who voted in the last three election cycles. CNN’s sample was made of 18% younger voters. In essence, CNN cut the number of younger voters in Ohio in half…”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:41:54pm

re: #108 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Kudos to the Cosmo reporter for pressing Ivanka further. Ivanka was spouting campaign drivel and getting defensive, and Cosmo wasn’t having any of it.

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Anymouse  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:42:08pm

re: #119 dangerman

i was going the other direction
the thing is so sexist — women make the babies and get leave, men work / support the family.

it will keep women off the fast track to promotions and limit their upward mobility

I would guess any sort of child leave proposal is vapourware, and one that discriminates against one sort of marriage (same sex) and single parents would be likely unconstitutional.

It is an attempt to make Mr. Trump more appealing to the middle. It won’t work.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:42:30pm
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dangerman  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:44:49pm

re: #123 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Kudos to the Cosmo reporter for pressing Ivanka further. Ivanka was spouting campaign drivel and getting defensive, and Cosmo wasn’t having any of it.

the more they do this the better:

give me a straight answer to a straight question and dont mention the other candidate

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petesh  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:44:58pm

re: #117 klys (maker of Silmarils)

What, you mean the male is supposed to contribute something to childrearing besides the sperm?

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Too many moms have to go back to work just days after their babies are born. … And too many dads and parents of adopted children don’t get any paid leave at all. Neither do sons and daughters struggling to take care of their aging parents. None of this is fair to families.
Hillary, May 23, 2016

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:45:48pm

Here’s the Tweet from the reporter, since an excellent act of journalism deserves credit.

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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:47:21pm

re: #114 TedStriker

I’m in TN, so I feel your pain, though 2 of our 9 reps are Dems (Steve Cohen and, my rep, Jim Cooper). The rest of your post, bang on.

We have Jim Clyburn and that’s it. Word/rumor is that when Clyburn retires, Bakari Sellers will probably go for and win his seat. But the rest of our House gang includes such luminaries as Mark “Appalachian Trail” Sanford, Joe “You Lie” Wilson and Trey “flop sweat” Gowdy among others. Ugh.

I also feel your pain, but hey, you have Memphis!

Marc Cohn - Walking In Memphis Official Video

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:47:37pm

re: #128 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Here’s the Tweet from the reporter, since an excellent act of journalism deserves credit.

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MSM, why does it take Cosmo to give us some real journalism? You are being shown up by a magazine that has a headline about GREAT SEX! on every cover.

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calochortus  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:51:08pm

re: #87 Anymouse

What does that mean?

Be Back In A Bit. As opposed to “later.” In this case, less than an hour, so you won’t be able to escape me.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:51:29pm

re: #130 Big Beautiful Door

MSM, why does it take Cosmo to give us some real journalism? You are being shown up by a magazine that has a headline about GREAT SEX! on every cover.

Helen Gurley Brown founded the magazine with the premise that women could look great and still have brains. Also, they liked sex.

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TedStriker  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:53:02pm

re: #120 TedStriker

The only good thing on CNN is Anthony Bourdain.

To expound on this, I have to admit, that at first, I was scratching my head when CNN had gotten Bourdain away from Travel Channel and commissioned him and ZPZ Productions to do Parts Unknown for them. However, he’s done more international current events and actual journalism in his shows (while still doing it in his trademark irreverently smartassed style) than the rest of the network seems to be these days; if one hasn’t watched the show, I highly recommend it.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:54:50pm

re: #133 TedStriker

To expound on this, I have to admit, that at first, I was scratching my head when CNN had commissioned him and ZPZ Productions to do Parts Unknown for them. However, he’s done more international current events and actual journalism in his shows than the rest of the network seems to be these days; if one hasn’t watched the show, I highly recommend it.

American Horror Story starts now on FX……. FWIW…

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Stanley Sea  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:55:14pm

re: #96 BeachDem

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re: #111 BeachDem

Bless you Beach Dem in my most South Carolina accent.

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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:55:30pm

re: #116 Anymouse

Even as red as South Carolina is, Nebraska’s right there with you, and we managed to get the death penalty repealed in the last legislative session. What works is work; one of our state senators bailed out of the Republican Party and joined the Libertarian Party last month; cracks are appearing here.

In 2012 NE-2 went for President Obama, delivering him one electoral vote. (You would think you could not gerrymander a state with only three districts but you would be wrong.) NE-2 is likely to go for Hillary Clinton, and the race is close in NE-1. That would be enough to deliver four electoral votes to Mrs. Clinton out of our five; four votes the GOP cannot afford to give up (which is why Mrs. Clinton made a campaign stop here last month).

We FINALLY managed to get the confederate flag taken down—only took 9 murders, including a state senator, to accomplish it.

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gwangung  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:57:42pm

re: #122 FormerDirtDart

CNN Gives Trump The Lead In Ohio By Under Polling Voters Under 50 Years Old
 via Politicususa

Good god, how could they even think about using that Crap….

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:57:58pm

re: #118 dangerman

that one is so, uh “transparent” someones gotta have something damaging on someone else. its such a naked, bonehead move for a network that cares at all about its image (ok never mind)

Any news organization that quotes a CNN item with a Lewandowski piece and doesn’t cite that he’s still on Trump’s payroll on each and every cite is practicing journalistic malfeasance.

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EPR-radar  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:58:38pm

re: #137 gwangung

Good god, how could they even think about using that Crap….

They used that crap precisely because it led to the desired outcome. Horse race = higher advertising rates.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2016 • 6:59:20pm

re: #130 Big Beautiful Door

MSM, why does it take Cosmo to give us some real journalism? You are being shown up by a magazine that has a headline about GREAT SEX! on every cover.

Never underestimate great sex.

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:00:10pm

Hey Ziggy_TARDIS, if you, or anyone else, is truly worried about the polls, you could help the Clinton campaign. Do data entry, make calls, donate, or whatever they need. That’s far better than freaking out, keeps you busy, and helps Hillary. That’ll be a measure of how worried you are.

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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:00:47pm

re: #135 Stanley Sea

Bless you Beach Dem in my most South Carolina accent.

You KNOW whereof I speak.

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gwangung  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:01:13pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

Never underestimate great sex.

Yeah, that’s practical for anyone.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:01:43pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

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Note to Trump’s working class supporters, this is WHAT he thinks of you. But hey if you hate Hillary, liberals, and minorities that much. Go ahead and vote for an elitist asshole who could care less about you and your family and just uses your resentments for his own power.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:01:46pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

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Yeah, you look like it.

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TedStriker  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:01:48pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

Never underestimate great sex.

Whether it’s with someone else or with your own self, great sex is great.

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Interesting Times  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:03:31pm

re: #130 Big Beautiful Door

MSM, why does it take Cosmo to give us some real journalism? You are being shown up by a magazine that has a headline about GREAT SEX! on every cover.

Reply
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:10:31pm

re: #147 Interesting Times

Lookis like @wapo was missing…

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:10:43pm

And just to be realistic we’re not talking about much. Donate $5 every time you get worried. It might not seem like you’re putting much in their fund, but they’ll tell you it will help.

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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:12:39pm

re: #138 Eric The Fruit Bat

Any news organization that quotes a CNN item with a Lewandowski piece and doesn’t cite that he’s still on Trump’s payroll on each and every cite is practicing journalistic malfeasance.

I do love the footer on every HuffPo Trump Story:

Editor’s note: Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims—1.6 billion members of an entire religion—from entering the U.S.

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Interesting Times  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:17:09pm

re: #148 Eric The Fruit Bat

Lookis like @wapo was missing…

They’ve actually done good work this cycle, like David Fahrenthold’s dying art of investigative journalism.

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whitebeach  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:17:25pm

re: #146 TedStriker

Whether it’s with someone else or with your own self, great sex is great.

Sounds right, at least to the best of my memory.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:19:41pm

re: #128 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Here’s the Tweet from the reporter, since an excellent act of journalism deserves credit.

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The continual “He’s employed women bullshit. Like that’s a pass? There are people not employing women?? (no response needed, I know there are, but we’re talking POTUS nominee)

So primitive, so fucking ENTITLED.

They’ve given nothing.

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lawhawk  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:23:22pm

re: #51 The Vicious Babushka

LBJ - heart attack in 1955.

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TedStriker  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:23:33pm

re: #152 whitebeach

Sounds right, at least to the best of my memory.

To paraphrase Richard Pryor as Mudbone, there’s only two times you have sex: your first and your last, and everything else in between is just gravy.

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teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:29:12pm

re: #88 Ziggy_TARDIS

Dude, no. Just, no. What the fuck?

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danarchy  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:29:38pm

re: #122 FormerDirtDart

CNN Gives Trump The Lead In Ohio By Under Polling Voters Under 50 Years Old
 via Politicususa

Bloomberg also released an Ohio poll today that showed Trump up by 5 and it looks like 44% of respondents were under 50.

assets.bwbx.io

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:31:16pm
Reply
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:34:33pm

re: #43 dangerman

at one time (long ago) i programmed on hollerith cards and channeled paper tape.

I had to learn different overpunch sequences depending on which machine I was running: an equal sign was 0-8-5 on one, and 0-8-6 on another, ARRGH.

70mq95BY7sCZRds+zATQygn/BTSyEj8aAIIVvT17qWCs+ihhGCxtj1mOlNr0tBY8rAbGeq1WF543vM/PTfNHJuK8PIsLjet1sWv6w6FV9pdLik092IoXS/DjJVF1aVvNlEFxAnzyctvCKHwfM4O8J3VOxjTwZXU8xFh6TXKCIYWACca+6eO9HnQH+kJT3lWKFkEpixWysih6+omrExzwheKjHMWDEMqcdeatxxJi3CPt1BfxkMK2gwzhKOVP9OJ2PRJy0TiJIP3nLcF0MMmdKVBsM6SToYorG+ivkwnEJKg=

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whitebeach  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:42:17pm

re: #155 TedStriker

To paraphrase Richard Pryor as Mudbone, there’s only two times you have sex: your first and your last, and everything else is just gravy.

To paraphrase Rudyard Kipling, a woman is only a woman, but a nice gravy is good eats.

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CleverToad  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:43:20pm

Drive by OT
I owe a whole lotta Lizards some righteous updings, but I’m trying not to stay on the hospital wifi too long at a time. Cranky old mother got a nosebleed on Monday night that’s led to two days in hospital so far, and not sure if they’ll let her out tomorrow. Sounds ridiculous unless you saw the amount of kleenex soaked in the hour+ it took the paramedics and ER staff to stop the bleeding.

I don’t want to see what the bills will look like, but she has Medicare and AARP HMO-style supplemental insurance. Will see how it goes. HCA will be making some major bucks off this, I’m sure, but the nurses are doing a great job.

See you guys for real when I get back to the home ‘net. Kudos to the muck waders amongst us — you’re earning your hazard pay.

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retired cynic  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:44:15pm

re: #161 CleverToad

Thinking of you and your mother!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:48:24pm

re: #160 whitebeach

To paraphrase Rudyard Kipling, a woman is only a woman, but a nice gravy is good eats.

To wit:

“A woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke.”

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:53:44pm
Reply
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jaunte  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:56:24pm
Reply

This is the strangest election ever.

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whitebeach  Sep 14, 2016 • 7:58:40pm

re: #163 Eric The Fruit Bat

To wit:

“A woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke.”

Precisely. Kipling was the only poet my dad ever liked, possibly the only one he ever read, and this stuff is hardwired into my CPU to this day.

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ObserverArt  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:04:42pm

re: #122 FormerDirtDart

CNN Gives Trump The Lead In Ohio By Under Polling Voters Under 50 Years Old
 via Politicususa

I heard the two polls that have him leading Clinton in Ohio that came out today are tilted Republican too.

So…who the hell knows. This election is so messy. It seems there are thumbs on all the scales.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:05:53pm

re: #165 jaunte

I heard the same commentary on BBC World Service. Obviously, The Kremlin is spooked.

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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:06:43pm

I think I am beginning to loathe Ivanka almost an much as I detest her father. She is not only as big a liar as he is, but she always acts totally appalled when anyone (the few, the proud…) calls her on her bullshit.

The male spawns, it goes without saying, are beneath contempt.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:11:00pm

re: #157 danarchy

But it also has 44% of them voting 3rd Party.

Something about that seems off.

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allegro  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:13:10pm

re: #169 BeachDem

I think I am beginning to loathe Ivanka almost an much as I detest her father. She is not only as big a liar as he is, but she always acts totally appalled when anyone (the few, the proud…) calls her on her bullshit.

The male spawns, it goes without saying, are beneath contempt.

I doubt she’s acting. It’s a creepy relationship and I can see her stunted as “daddy’s little girl” quite easily.

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ObserverArt  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:16:34pm

re: #169 BeachDem

I think I am beginning to loathe Ivanka almost an much as I detest her father. She is not only as big a liar as he is, but she always acts totally appalled when anyone (the few, the proud…) calls her on her bullshit.

The male spawns, it goes without saying, are beneath contempt.

She sure seems to have picked up the ol’ man’s arrogance. They all have. I just get this vibe they are very weird. Nothing normal about them…like some kind of a grifter cult.

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Joe Bacon  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:17:10pm

I’m not a Dr but I play one on TV!

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:20:18pm

re: #169 BeachDem

I think I am beginning to loathe Ivanka almost an much as I detest her father. She is not only as big a liar as he is, but she always acts totally appalled when anyone (the few, the proud…) calls her on her bullshit.

The male spawns, it goes without saying, are beneath contempt.

Well, her claim that no one had ever done any significant political work on child care was incredibly ignorant and easily avoided.

175
Joe Bacon  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:21:31pm

re: #159 Eric The Fruit Bat

Brings back memories of computer programming in college 40 years ago, punching cards, using flowchart templates and the language was FORTRAN with WATFOR and WATFIV…

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Stanley Sea  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:21:59pm

re: #172 ObserverArt

She sure seems to have picked up the ol’ man’s arrogance. They all have. I just get this vibe they are very weird. Nothing normal about them…like some kind of a grifter cult.

Ivanka saying her dad always encouraged them to follow their dreeeeeeeeeams.

Then they all worked for dad. Money = their dreams.

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calochortus  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:22:27pm

re: #174 jaunte

Well, her claim that no one had ever done any significant political work on child care was incredibly ignorant and easily avoided.

Not to mention her comment that Hillary has been around for a long time and hasn’t fixed the childcare problem yet. She may have been around, but not in positions where she could single handedly fix it.

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retired cynic  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:23:48pm

re: #177 calochortus

Not to mention her comment that Hillary has been around for a long time and hasn’t fixed the childcare problem yet. She may have been around, but not in positions where she could single handedly fix it.

As if anyone, alone, could wave a wand and fix it. Sheesh!

179
teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:23:58pm

Soon.

Instagram

First snow of the season in the Wasatch mtns today has me thinking about this! Who else is stoked for winter?
#poweryourpassion @jaybirdsport photo: @acpictures

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Stanley Sea  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:25:04pm

re: #177 calochortus

Not to mention her comment that Hillary has been around for a long time and hasn’t fixed the childcare problem yet. She may have been around, but not in positions where she could single handedly fix it.

Ivanka’s child care proposal, as Lawhawk says is VAPOR

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retired cynic  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:25:06pm

re: #179 teleskiguy

Actually, I’m not looking forward to winter myself, but I enjoy your enjoyment!

182
teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:27:08pm

re: #181 retired cynic

My favorite thing ever. Me:

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:27:35pm

re: #182 teleskiguy

Hey, where’s the rest of you?

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calochortus  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:27:49pm

re: #180 Stanley Sea

Ivanka’s child care proposal, as Lawhawk says is VAPOR

But of course it is.

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teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:28:16pm

re: #183 jaunte

Disappeared. It’s called the white room.

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calochortus  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:28:56pm

re: #181 retired cynic

Actually, I’m not looking forward to winter myself, but I enjoy your enjoyment!

I don’t mind winter. Of course, I live in the SF Bay Area, so we have “winter” rather than WINTER.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:30:03pm

I’m looking forward to winter; need to get back out on the snowboard.

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allegro  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:30:10pm

re: #174 jaunte

Well, her claim that no one had ever done any significant political work on child care was incredibly ignorant and easily avoided.

Not unlike her dad who claimed that no one was talking about illegal immigration until he came along and other similar examples. The world revolves around them and nothing existed before them or outside of them. I think they are quite sincere in that belief.

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retired cynic  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:31:03pm

re: #188 allegro

Not unlike her dad who claimed that no one was talking about illegal immigration until he came along and other similar examples. The world revolves around them and nothing existed before them or outside of them. I think they are quite sincere in that belief.

Not sure of the last sentence, but believe it is possible.

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allegro  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:31:11pm

re: #176 Stanley Sea

Ivanka saying her dad always encouraged them to follow their dreeeeeeeeeams.

Then they all worked for dad. Money = their dreams.

I dunno. Ivanka may actually dream about shoes.

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MsJ  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:34:52pm

re: #72 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

When you’ve lost David Gergen:

‘Ludicrous on its face’: David Gergen bursts with disgust for Trump’s Dr. Oz fiasco

[Embedded content]

I wasted 6.5 minutes of my life that I will never get back. That was atrocious. Both sides. Too much info they’re soooo overloaded. Man, journalism died in 2016. That was really some shit there.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:37:19pm

re: #176 Stanley Sea

Then they all worked for dad. Money = their dreams.

There’s probably a psychological term for not separating far enough from your parent to develop a distinct personality, but it’s not coming to me.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:41:03pm

re: #175 Joe Bacon

In my case, it was dealing with the equal sign (0-8-5) on a Honeywell 58 or a IBM 1130 (0-6-8).

My High School had the Honeywell, the local college had the a 1130 clone (Meta/4.)
What was weird is that the computer our high school had was made in France, so a lot of its OS commands were French (AFFECT DAFILE)-weird. It’s COBOL compiler was an 18-pass beast-you could tell which pass it was on because the system had a 10-digit numeric display on it, which it used one of the digits to display which pass of the compiler it was on. Originally it was part of General Electric when they were in the computer business before they bailed and sold out to to Honeywell.

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allegro  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:41:03pm

re: #192 jaunte

There’s probably a psychological term for not separating far enough from your parent to develop a distinct personality, but it’s not coming to me.

Failure to launch?

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allegro  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:42:46pm

re: #192 jaunte

There’s probably a psychological term for not separating far enough from your parent to develop a distinct personality, but it’s not coming to me.

Actually what you may be looking for is Oedipal and Electra complexes. The first is a son’s unhealthy attachment to mama, the second daughter to father.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:48:34pm

re: #193 Eric The Fruit Bat

I sincerely hope that compiler used magtape rather than cards.

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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:50:09pm

re: #188 allegro

Not unlike her dad who claimed that no one was talking about illegal immigration until he came along and other similar examples. The world revolves around them and nothing existed before them or outside of them. I think they are quite sincere in that belief.

Other things that Donald Trump ‘made very important’

SATIRE (but pretty funny)washingtonpost.com

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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2016 • 8:51:19pm

re: #190 allegro

I dunno. Ivanka may actually dream about STEALING DESIGNS FROM OTHER PEOPLE FOR shoes.

fify

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MsJ  Sep 14, 2016 • 9:00:25pm

re: #169 BeachDem

I think I am beginning to loathe Ivanka almost an much as I detest her father. She is not only as big a liar as he is, but she always acts totally appalled when anyone (the few, the proud…) calls her on her bullshit.

The male spawns, it goes without saying, are beneath contempt.

The whole family is simply disgusting. Liars every one. No morals at all. And every one is a loathsome entitled asshat.

Every. Last. One. Of. Them.


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