Rudy Giuliani: “Economic Genius” Trump “A Lot Better for the US Than a Woman”

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It’s hard to believe and even harder to overstate how irrational and misogynistic Rudy Giuliani comes off in his interview today with George Stephanopoulos.

Giuliani says “a man who has this kind of economic genius is a lot better for the United States than a woman.” Yes, he really said this!

He also went on Meet the Press today and defended Trump’s accusation that Hillary Clinton cheats on her husband, saying “everybody does.” And yes, he really said this too!

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SteelPH  Oct 2, 2016 • 11:55:42am

What the fuck

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 2, 2016 • 11:56:48am

Please, Rudy, tell us more about Trump’s superiority to women and how all men cheat on their wives.

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Lidane  Oct 2, 2016 • 11:57:29am

That sound you hear is the Clinton campaign editing several ads from this interview.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 2, 2016 • 11:58:52am

Giuliani is so far off in the deep end that he doesn’t realize that his political career will be dead on Nov 9th.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2016 • 11:58:52am

Never liked Rudy. He’s showing why.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:01:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:02:23pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Please Rudy show us where the poor man touched you.

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dangerman  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:02:48pm

re: #4 Dr. Matt

Giuliani is so far off in the deep end that he doesn’t realize that he’s political career will be dead on Nov 9th.

Giuliani is so far off in the deep end that he doesn’t realize that his political career and influence died years ago

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:03:31pm

re: #8 dangerman

Giuliani is so far off in the deep end that he doesn’t realize that his political career and influence died years ago

Yeah it’s been dead since he lost in the 2008 primary.

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calochortus  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:03:37pm

re: #2 Big Beautiful Door

Please, Rudy, tell us more about Trump’s superiority to women and how all men cheat on their wives.

Apparently all women cheat on their husbands too. Mr. C and I will have to discuss this over dinner tonight. Probably won’t be as interesting as Giuliani supposes.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:04:07pm

This guy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:05:27pm

Rosh Hashana Good Wishes from the (Muslim) Mayor of London

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dangerman  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:06:20pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

Yeah it’s been dead since he lost in the 2008 primary.

i think he started telegraphing instability when he was looking for a way to extend his term as mayor

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:07:03pm

These dicks are letting it all hang out.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:07:51pm

re: #13 dangerman

i think he started telegraphing instability when he was looking for a way to extend his term as mayor

Agreed.

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:07:53pm

re: #14 Nyet

These dicks are letting it all hang out.

Hopefully there will be lots of pointing and laughing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:07:54pm
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calochortus  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:07:56pm

Newsflash: There is water falling out of the sky here on the SF Peninsula!
What sort of magick is this?

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:08:53pm

re: #12 The Vicious Babushka

TAQYIAAAA!!1

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ObserverArt  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:09:07pm

re: #4 Dr. Matt

Giuliani is so far off in the deep end that he doesn’t realize that his political career will be dead on Nov 9th.

His political career is already dead. Now he is down to following around Trump and picking up loose change that falls out of Donny’s pockets.

He sure does have crazy eyes though!

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dangerman  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:11:24pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

This guy.

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[Embedded content]FWIW: The NYT’s headline says “could have avoided paying taxes.”

So, it’s also possible Trump could have paid his taxes in following years.

i remind everyone that its not the 900m loss that’s the story

that only goes to being a bad businessman and all the tax shaming hes done for years

and nol carryforward losses were legal and perfectly legitimate in and of themselves and do offset the other years income

its whether the loss itself is phony

- did he actually lose 900m of his own money
or
- is it generated out of leveraged debt he has neither paid off nor has taken into income as forgiven

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allegro  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:11:36pm

From the last thread (hi CL!):

Hillary: Trump has been cheating the American people his entire career, using loopholes created by the rich for the rich, enabling him to profit from his own bad decisions and incompetent management, even wishing for harm to come to the American people so he can increase his personal wealth while paying no taxes. He believes that makes him smart and he brags about it. Do you think this man will ever be on your side?

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:13:08pm

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:13:11pm

re: #21 dangerman

i remind everyone that its not the 900m loss that’s the story

that only goes to being a bad businessman and all the tax shaming hes done for years

and nol carryforward losses were legal and perfectly legitimate in and of themselves and do offset the other years income

its whether the loss itself is phony

- did he actually lose 900m of his own money
or
- is it generated out of leveraged debt he has neither paid off nor has taken into income as forgiven

The big stories out of it are:
1. Is he that bad a businessman?
2. Has he been avoiding paying taxes when he bashes other people for not paying them?

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allegro  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:15:31pm

re: #24 Belafon

The big stories out of it are:
1. Is he that bad a businessman?
2. Has he been avoiding paying taxes when he bashes other people for not paying them?

And his tax plan includes raising taxes on the middle class while reducing those of the rich.

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ObserverArt  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:16:29pm

Heh, saw this comment at the Washington Post article Sleuth posted at the end of the last thread.

PapaMcGill
3:12 PM EDT

Attention Young First-Time Voters:

If any sleazy Nazi Republican campaign lawyer “Poll-Watcher” (equals storm-trooper in a tie) challenges your credentials or your right to vote at your designated polling place on election day… immediately challenge said person’s right to exist!
You can have the s.o.b ARRESTED!
All it takes is an immediate 911 phone-call.
And… try to have a friend cell-phone-video the entire exchange — and stream it LIVE!
People fought and dies for your right to vote!
People trying to keep you from voting should be treated as the ENEMY!

Edit…it was a Washington Post Article!

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makeitstop  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:16:54pm

re: #4 Dr. Matt

Giuliani is so far off in the deep end that he doesn’t realize that his political career will be dead on Nov 9th.

It’s pretty much been dead since he attempted to cancel the NYC mayoral election after 9/11.

Oh, and ‘genius’ must have been on the campaign’s talking points for today - Christie used it as well.

They think they can get out in front of this with pure bluster, but it’s already way too late. Trmpanzees are going to love it, Clinton supporters already hate it - but undecideds are going to look at 18 years of zero taxes and think nothing but ‘who the fuck does this guy think he is?’

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dangerman  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:17:30pm

re: #14 Nyet

Evangelical Leaders Sell Their Souls To Support Trump

Nyet,

I dont want to flog a dead horse (too much)

the other day we were talking about an article on dkos - if you’re trump supporter i know 10 things about you - or something like that. and maybe the writer’s using “christian” was a poor selection of words.

this is, i think sort of the idea behind his #6 and it is redstate.com so take that fwiw

This is all about partisan politics, nothing more. Dobson and Falwell would be better off admitting that, instead of looking like hypocritical fools, beating their bibles for Donald Trump.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:17:43pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Feezus Jucking Key-Rye-ist! Was Rudy snorting from Tribblehead’s coke stash?

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Joe Bacon  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:19:19pm

re: #28 dangerman

Evangelical Leaders Sell Their Souls To Support Trump

These pulpit pimps worship Ayn Rand!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:20:57pm

oh….

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calochortus  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:22:35pm

re: #27 makeitstop

It’s pretty much been dead since he attempted to cancel the NYC mayoral election after 9/11.

Oh, and ‘genius’ must have been on the campaign’s talking points for today - Christie used it as well.

They think they can get out in front of this with pure bluster, but it’s already way too late. Trmpanzees are going to love it, Clinton supporters already hate it - but undecideds are going to look at 18 years of zero taxes and think nothing but ‘who the fuck does this guy think he is?’

A Freeper or two are explaining that to the “educated” people Trump’s taxes are perfectly understandable, but the (and I quote) “little people, the sheeple” it’s terrible.

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:23:59pm

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dangerman  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:24:10pm

re: #24 Belafon

The big stories out of it are:
1. Is he that bad a businessman?
2. Has he been avoiding paying taxes when he bashes other people for not paying them?

those are imminent, obvious and hopefully immediately politically damaging

im adding that a possible story may be that the -900m is fake. that would be an exponentially larger and different kind of story

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calochortus  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:25:06pm

Aaaand, water has stopped falling from the sky here. Probably will get another shower or two, but not enough to even make the roads slippery (first real rain of the season floats all the oil that has accumulated over the last few months on the road which provides a lovely slippery surface) but hey, we haven’t seen any precip at all in months.

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Naked Bunny with a Whip  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:25:50pm

Wow. The dog whistles they used until recently seem so quaint now.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:27:41pm

Ashburn Colored School in Virginia which was being restored to be a museum, was vandalized with white power and swastika slogans.

bbc.com

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Naked Bunny with a Whip  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:28:08pm

It’s a curious notion they’re pushing now, that Trump is a “genius” for not paying taxes. Like Trump actually does his own taxes.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:28:30pm

re: #37 GlutenFreeJesus

Ashburn Colored School in Virginia which was being restored to be a museum, was vandalized with white power and swastika slogans.

bbc.com

Jesus. That’s not too far from here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:30:03pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:30:48pm

re: #34 dangerman

those are imminent, obvious and hopefully immediately politically damaging

im adding that a possible story may be that the -900m is fake. that would be an exponentially larger and different kind of story

I would be surprised if Trump’s “losses” were not entirely on paper and didn’t reduce his actual income by a single dollar.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:31:06pm
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Belafon  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:31:59pm

re: #34 dangerman

those are imminent, obvious and hopefully immediately politically damaging

im adding that a possible story may be that the -900m is fake. that would be an exponentially larger and different kind of story

OK. I didn’t quite get it the first time. You’re saying that Trump may have filed a $900M tax loss but he made that up.

That would get both him and his accountants in trouble, unless he did some playing with numbers that I don’t think he’s smart enough to do.

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:32:33pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

DailyStormer must be orgasming over this.

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dangerman  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:34:22pm

re: #38 Naked Bunny with a Whip

It’s a curious notion they’re pushing now, that Trump is a “genius” for not paying taxes. Like Trump actually does his own taxes.

you are *never* smart for losing money or spending money you otherwise wouldnt only to reduce taxes.

spending $1 to save $0.33 in taxes doesnt work
same for 900m

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dangerman  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:36:00pm

re: #41 Big Beautiful Door

I wlould be surprised if Trump’s “losses” were not entirely on paper and didn’t reduce his actual income by a single dollar.

exactly - i do not believe he lost almost 1bn of his own money

i have no support for this opinon (yet)

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:37:16pm

I wonder which candidate is going to mention Rosh Hashanah first. My penny is on Hillary. That Trump person may have to be reminded of it.

Happy Rosh Hashanah to all.

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dangerman  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:37:38pm

re: #43 Belafon

OK. I didn’t quite get it the first time. You’re saying that Trump may have filed a $900M tax loss but he made that up.

That would get both him and his accountants in trouble, unless he did some playing with numbers that I don’t think he’s smart enough to do.

more or less yes. and on that we’ll just wait and see

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:37:39pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“International blood-suckers”? WTF? Yeah, that’s pretty obviously anti-Semitic.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:38:04pm

re: #49 Dr Lizardo

“International blood-suckers”? WTF? Yeah, that’s pretty obviously anti-Semitic.

No kidding.

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calochortus  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:40:02pm

re: #49 Dr Lizardo

“International blood-suckers”? WTF? Yeah, that’s pretty obviously anti-Semitic.

Mosquitoes from other countries?

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:40:06pm

re: #49 Dr Lizardo

“International blood-suckers”? WTF? Yeah, that’s pretty obviously anti-Semitic.

Um, no. He obviously meant sheriffs.

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allegro  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:43:19pm

re: #32 calochortus

A Freeper or two are explaining that to the “educated” people Trump’s taxes are perfectly understandable, but the (and I quote) “little people, the sheeple” it’s terrible.

I think they are quite understandable as do most. We understand the story they tell is terrible.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:44:25pm

re: #46 dangerman

exactly - i do not believe he lost almost 1bn of his own money

i have no support for this opinon (yet)

This point is starting to get some traction. Trump is far more likely to have borrowed money to buy assets which became worthless, hence the $915e6 loss.

But what happened to that debt?

If it was forgiven, that’s income and negates the Net Operating Loss. But we know that the Trump Campaign is NOT denying that he has used the NOL to pay no income tax for years, so that doesn’t seem likely.

If it was NOT forgiven, then somebody or some thing is holding it.

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:44:33pm

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calochortus  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:45:31pm

re: #53 allegro

I think they are quite understandable as do most. We understand the story they tell is terrible.

Yeah, I mean writing off real estate depreciation and losses is perfectly legal, but a.) it’s a great example of the unfairness of the tax code, and b.) I wouldn’t brag about it after complaining poor people don’t pay income taxes.

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dangerman  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:49:26pm

re: #54 Blind Frog Belly White

This point is starting to get some traction. Trump is far more likely to have borrowed money to buy assets which became worthless, hence the $915e6 loss.

But what happened to that debt?

If it was forgiven, that’s income and negates the Net Operating Loss. But we know that the Trump Campaign is NOT denying that he has used the NOL to pay no income tax for years, so that doesn’t seem likely.

If it was NOT forgiven, then somebody or some thing is holding it.

this exactly.
there are “loopholes” and there are LOOPHOLES

and this too
re: #53 allegro

I think they are quite understandable as do most. We understand the story they tell is terrible.

no matter what it turns out to actually be

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:51:20pm

Meanwhile some berniebro deadenders merge with the far right:

caucus99percent.com

I think of myself as a socialist, and would be called such by most people, but this is the most sane video I’ve seen today, and it was posted by a user called “The Right Wing Conspiracy”. I really didn’t want to post this video I found linked from reddit, I feel embarrassed, but I wanted to share this with y’all. It’s actually a decent vid, but I feel like apologizing for posting it.

Panel features: Tom Fitton, Peter Schweizer, Chris Farrell, Jerome Corsi, and Joe diGenova.

Yes, I feel the world has turned upside down; that I am so far left that I am now standing shoulder-to-shoulder with those on the right.

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:54:17pm

re: #58 Nyet

Sun, 10/02/2016 - 1:30pm — Caerus
No apologies needed
We are now getting the REAL news from different places. I don’t even bother to read NYTimes, or WashPost, and they were my first go to places.

Try this:
breitbart.com…

I’m as sick as everybody at what the MSM is doing to Jill Stein, Gary Johnson ( tho I don’t support him) and Donald trump. At least Trump did nothing illegal in his taxes, that we know of, not true for Billy & Her Heinious. Think the Clintons are jealous.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:54:49pm

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

Same here.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:57:07pm

re: #59 Nyet

Corsi, Breitbart, guess Stormfront is next.

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dangerman  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:58:09pm

re: #56 calochortus

i might be a little careful to recognize that many parts of the tax code only apply to some people.

even basics like itemized deductions or schedule c income

real estate depreciation - whether for trump or a guy who just bought his first 2BR rental property. same rule

and there is (was) sound accounting theory behind the idea of depreciation and why some things can be, some cant, and over how long

this doesnt mean any rule cant be misused or abused

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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2016 • 12:58:31pm

re: #49 Dr Lizardo

“International blood-suckers”? WTF? Yeah, that’s pretty obviously anti-Semitic.

I totally jumped when he said it. Of course it was with a snarl.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:00:08pm

re: #63 Stanley Sea

I totally jumped when he said it. Of course it was with a snarl.

I have little doubt that Trump is an anti-Semite.

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calochortus  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:02:32pm

re: #62 dangerman

i might be a little careful to recognize that many parts of the tax code only apply to some people.

even basics like itemized deductions or schedule c income

real estate depreciation - whether for trump or a guy who just bought his first 2BR rental property. same rule

and there is (was) sound accounting theory behind the idea of depreciation and why some things can be, some cant, and over how long

this doesnt mean any rule cant be misused or abused

I understand that, but the way many of these investment-related rules were written tend to favor the rich. Sometimes there really are good reasons for it, sometimes it’s because rich people have better tax lawyers.

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allegro  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:04:33pm

re: #65 calochortus

I understand that, but the way many of these investment-related rules were written tend to favor the rich. Sometimes there really are good reasons for it, sometimes it’s because rich people have better tax lawyers.

A lot of the time it’s because they are the lawmakers.

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MsJ  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:04:52pm

re: #26 ObserverArt

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:06:22pm

re: #58 Nyet

Meanwhile some berniebro deadenders merge with the far right:

caucus99percent.com

If you’re “standing shoulder to shoulder” with the likes of Jerome Corsi, you were never a Socialist, or a Sander supporter. You just hate Hillary, and you hate her so much that you have lost all ideology.

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:09:34pm

re: #68 Blind Frog Belly White

Don’t forget the Soviet-Nazi pact…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:12:57pm

re: #69 Nyet

Don’t forget the Soviet-Nazi pact…

Good point.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:13:18pm

re: #18 calochortus

Newsflash: There is water falling out of the sky here on the SF Peninsula!
What sort of magick is this?

This is making my decision to forgo my Sunday bike ride seem more like good planning, instead of simply being a lazy lard-ass!

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allegro  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:17:17pm

re: #71 Blind Frog Belly White

This is making my decision to forgo my Sunday bike ride seem more like good planning, instead of simply being a lazy lard-ass!

Being a lazy lard-ass is what Sunday is for. Innit?

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calochortus  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:21:19pm

re: #72 allegro

Being a lazy lard-ass is what Sunday is for. Innit?

You mean I didn’t have to (finally) get around to moving a sprinkler head in my back yard so I can move some paving stones around? If only I’d known before I started digging the stupid thing out (12” pop-up means 12” of digging to get the sprinkler body out.)

Oh well. At least the procrastination gave a chance to figure out that I don’t actually need to go to the hardware store for that “one more thing.” There is a workaround. Yay.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:21:30pm

re: #72 allegro

Being a lazy lard-ass is what Sunday is for. Innit?

It’s the only day I can justify taking 4 hours out to ride, then an hour afterwards for cool-down, lunch, and shower, and then a 1-2 hour nap!

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dangerman  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:24:47pm

re: #65 calochortus

I understand that, but the way many of these investment-related rules were written tend to favor the rich. Sometimes there really are good reasons for it, sometimes it’s because rich people have better tax lawyers.

100% agree
and i would add further many people factor the odds of getting caught into what they put on their returns - “rich” and not so rich alike

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calochortus  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:28:32pm

And speaking of things I ought to be doing-I think I’ll go finish up the sprinkler relocation project. Because then I can cross it off of my “to-do” list. I love crossing things off my to-do list. I’ve been known to write things I’ve already done on my list, just so I can cross them off. I’m probably nuts.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:29:44pm
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Joe Bacon  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:30:40pm

And now for something completely different…Its Groucho Marx’s birthday. Here’s Groucho singing in The Mikado…

Groucho Marx in THE MIKADO — first time on DVD!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:35:30pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:36:56pm

The flip side of Your Crazy Uncle getting acceptance and reinforcement of his crazy right wing conspiracy theories from the web is the ability of nerds to be annoyingly literal to strangers thousands of miles away.

To wit:

A friend posted this on FB. The comments are CHOCK FULL of “But that’s life expectancy at birth! Once they survived infancy their life expectancies were much higher!”

Yeah, we all know that. Shouldn’t you be someplace else, discussing whether the Enterprise could take out an Imperial Star Cruiser?
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makeitstop  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:38:05pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart

Due to security concerns at the Ecuadorian Embassy, Julian Assange’s balcony announcement on Tues has been cancelled, per @wikileaks

Putin’s check hasn’t cleared.
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:38:33pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart

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Ri-i-ight. Pull the other one.

Nobody’s gonna bother shooting that fucker off a balcony. He’s already destroyed his own credibility with all but hardcore ‘Intercept’ types with his embrace of Putin’s hackers and Trump’s campaign.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:38:55pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart

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Scottishdragon  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:42:13pm

re: #1 SteelPH

What the fuck

Rudy took whatever was left of his reputation from 9/11 and set it on fire, doused it with nitric acid, defecated repeatedly on whatever was left and then sprayed the surrounding area with phosgene gas to make absolutely sure it was dead dead dead.

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b.d.  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:44:28pm

Why won’t the London police ramp up security to ensure Julian’s safety?!?!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:44:36pm

re: #84 Scottishdragon

Rudy took whatever was left of his reputation from 9/11 and set it on fire, doused it with nitric acid, defecated repeatedly on whatever was left and then sprayed the surrounding area with phosgene gas to make absolutely sure it was dead dead dead.

I never liked the America’s mayor spiel personally.

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dangerman  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:45:26pm

re: #80 Blind Frog Belly White

The flip side of Your Crazy Uncle getting acceptance and reinforcement of his crazy right wing conspiracy theories from the web is the ability of nerds to be annoyingly literal to strangers thousands of miles away.

To wit:

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A friend posted this on FB. The comments are CHOCK FULL of “But that’s life expectancy at birth! Once they survived infancy their life expectancies were much higher!”

Yeah, we all know that. Shouldn’t you be someplace else, discussing whether the Enterprise could take out an Imperial Star Cruiser?
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as if lo carb, vaccines and antibiotics are the *only* three things different

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:45:31pm

I’ve just seen the first woolly worm of the season.
According to folklore weather forecasting, this worm being a solid brown indicates a mild winter forthcoming here in the Backwoods.
YAY!

(I’ll take whatever good news I can get…)

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scottslemmons  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:45:54pm

re: #84 Scottishdragon

Rudy took whatever was left of his reputation from 9/11 and set it on fire, doused it with nitric acid, defecated repeatedly on whatever was left and then sprayed the surrounding area with phosgene gas to make absolutely sure it was dead dead dead.

And then ate the whole thing, which is why he looks like that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:46:18pm

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:46:18pm

Everything you need to know about Assange’s audience.

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gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:51:04pm
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Jenner7  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:54:09pm

Maybe Hillary’s response to the email thing from now on should be “everybody does it.” You think that’ll work?

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gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:56:18pm
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b.d.  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:58:58pm
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Pretty hot take.
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 1:59:42pm

re: #97 gocart mozart

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So, at the same time when his surrogates are out there saying “It’s business, everybody does it”, Trump is claiming it’s some kind of genius?

O-o-okay.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:00:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:00:40pm

re: #99 Blind Frog Belly White

So, at the same time when his surrogates are out there saying “It’s business, everybody does it”, Trump is claiming it’s some kind of genius?

O-o-okay.

Throwing shit against the wall, hoping it sticks.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:02:09pm

re: #99 Blind Frog Belly White

Also, does ANYONE actually believe that Trump, who can’t even take the time to study up for the most important moment of his campaign, really put in the time and concentration to study the tax code?

No, he didn’t. He hired lawyers and accountants.

Then he probably didn’t pay them - which could be why Mr. Mitnick, his old accountant, was happy to confirm that the tax documents were real.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:03:19pm

re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White

Finally, does ANYONE believe that if Trump has control of ‘rewriting the tax code’, that he’ll do ANYTHING that would cost him more money?

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Snarknado!  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:03:34pm

re: #64 Dr Lizardo

I have little doubt that Trump is an anti-Semite.

Well, except for the little guys in yarmulkas he’ll keep to do his accounts.

ExcusemeIhavetogopuke.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:03:52pm

re: #96 gocart mozart

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Charles Johnson  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:03:58pm
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Joe Bacon  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:07:47pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:08:02pm

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nines09  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:08:25pm

Rudy removed all doubt that he is not a world class mega creep.

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dangerman  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:09:05pm

re: #99 Blind Frog Belly White

So, at the same time when his surrogates are out there saying “It’s business, everybody does it”, Trump is claiming it’s some kind of genius?

O-o-okay.

they dont think this stuff through or coordinate “message” in any way

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dangerman  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:10:45pm

re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White

Also, does ANYONE actually believe that Trump, who can’t even take the time to study up for the most important moment of his campaign, really put in the time and concentration to study the tax code?

No, he didn’t. He hired lawyers and accountants.

Then he probably didn’t pay them - which could be why Mr. Mitnick, his old accountant, was happy to confirm that the tax documents were real.

i was slightly surprised that mitnick was so forthcoming
granted its not quite attorney-client and he is retired
but trump has wrath

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Timothy Watson  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:12:16pm

re: #112 dangerman

i was slightly surprised that mitnick was so forthcoming
granted its not quite attorney-client and he is retired
but trump has wrath

Me too, kinda surprise he wasn’t bound by a NDA.

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gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:12:45pm
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:14:40pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve just seen the first woolly worm of the season.
According to folklore weather forecasting, this worm being a solid brown indicates a mild winter forthcoming here in the Backwoods.
YAY!

(I’ll take whatever good news I can get…)

Co-worker said the same thing the other day. Dark, solid color rather then a rust, lighter colored coat like most times. Mild PA winter would be fine by me.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:16:43pm

re: #115 Eventual Carrion

A mild winter. That would great.

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gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:16:57pm
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:18:36pm

re: #99 Blind Frog Belly White

So, at the same time when his surrogates are out there saying “It’s business, everybody does it”, Trump is claiming it’s some kind of genius?

O-o-okay.

Only the little people pay taxes

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gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:20:16pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:21:54pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:25:56pm

re: #94 Jenner7

Maybe Hillary’s response to the email thing from now on should be “everybody does it.” You think that’ll work?

The Bush Administration did do it. Hilary’s mistake was acting like a Republican.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:28:09pm

On 538, Hillary’s chances have slipped by 1 point.

However, a look into the new polls he is showing reveals that those polls are shitty junk.

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allegro  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:31:16pm

re: #110 nines09

Rudy removed all doubt that he is not a world class mega creep.

I thought the cross dressing was bad enough. No taste there either.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:31:38pm

re: #112 dangerman

i was slightly surprised that mitnick was so forthcoming
granted its not quite attorney-client and he is retired
but trump has wrath

heavy.com

5 things about Jack Mitnick.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:31:41pm

re: #123 Ziggy_TARDIS

On 538, Hillary’s chances have slipped by 1 point.

However, a look into the new polls he is showing reveals that those polls are shitty junk.

A lot of them are pre-debate polls.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:33:49pm

re: #126 Big Beautiful Door

No, I mean polls that are worthless for other reasons.

CVoter? They have been involved in corruption issues in India.

LA Times? Extreme outlier, with weird procedures.

Then, the online polls.

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Scottishdragon  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:34:12pm

Over at the Washington Post. This is fucking insane. Bugfuck batshit run screaming for the hills and never come back insane.

“So beautiful,” Melanie said as Ivanka Trump walked onto the convention stage to introduce her father, and soon the soaring score of the movie “Air Force One” was blasting through the TV. Melanie sat up straighter. This is what she had been waiting for.

“Here comes Big Daddy,” she said, clapping. “The Donald. Big Daddy.”

Kevin was snoring.

“Here he is, babe,” she said. “Donald’s here, babe.”

Trump walked onto the stage, chanting “U-S-A! U-S-A!”

“That’s right, Donald — USA, baby,” Melanie said to the Republican nominee for president, who began his speech by marveling at all the Americans who had gotten him here.

“Who would have believed that when we started this journey on June 16th of last year we — and I say we, because we are a team — would have received almost 14 million votes?” Trump said, looking out on the cheering crowd.

“I would,” Melanie said to the TV. “I would, Donald.”

***

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump speaks July 21, the final day of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland. (Ricky Carioti/The Washington Post)

The first time she had seen him, at a rally in June, she was just beginning to realize how many people saw the world the way she did, that she was one among millions. At the time, her hips were still sore from a series of injections intended to calm her. She had gotten them in February, during a difficult time in her life, when she had been involuntarily hospitalized for several weeks after what she called a “rant,” a series of online postings that included one saying that Obama should be hanged and the White House fumigated and burned to the ground. On her discharge papers, in a box labeled “medical problem,” a doctor had typed “homicidal ideation.”

Read the whole thing if you can. This is one of the most terrifying and depressing glimpses of working class paranoia, rage and depression I have ever seen.

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dangerman  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:35:01pm

it’s now official:

LGF is now a default page that opens when I open chrome

as i was welcomed to your party, you are now welcomed to mine

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:35:23pm

re: #113 Timothy Watson

Me too, kinda surprise he wasn’t bound by a NDA.

He’s 80-something. NDA’s, like life sentences, have a shelf life.

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freetoken  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:36:17pm

re: #129 Scottishdragon

Reads like what happens daily on Facebook…

People see what they want to see. It takes a lot of discipline to step back and reevaluate what one believes. I believe that most people only do that when they are forced to, by circumstances.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:36:18pm

Yet, he supports Trump. who has been telling us he’s smarter than everyone his entire campaign…

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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:37:00pm

re: #117 gocart mozart

I don’t know who that was, but it was spot on.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:37:14pm

re: #133 FormerDirtDart

Yet, he supports Trump. who has been telling us he’s smarter than everyone his entire campaign…

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dangerman  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:39:05pm

re: #125 Stanley Sea

heavy.com

5 things about Jack Mitnick.

a lawyer as well
assume he knows how to protect himself

apparently lives near my neck of the woods

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MsJ  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:39:21pm

re: #129 Scottishdragon

It’s really sad. She’s mentally ill. And she’s found others just like her.

Her neighbor at the end really made me sad. This lady is demonstrably mentally ill…and the neighbor was sweet about it, as bugfuck nuts as she is.

That whole article depressed the hell out of me. There are too many nuts out there who believe in ghosts, conspiracy theories, Alex fucking Jones. It’s horrifyingly depressing.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:39:27pm

re: #108 Joe Bacon

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:39:28pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:39:59pm

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MsJ  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:43:52pm

re: #133 FormerDirtDart

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:44:06pm

re: #134 Stanley Sea

He’s a Christian writer, graduating from Wheaton College.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:44:36pm

re: #137 MsJ

It’s really sad. She’s mentally ill. And she’s found others just like her.

Her neighbor at the end really made me sad. This lady is demonstrably mentally ill…and the neighbor was sweet about it, as bugfuck nuts as she is.

That whole article depressed the hell out of me. There are too many nuts out there who believe in ghosts, conspiracy theories, Alex fucking Jones. It’s horrifyingly depressing.

It is. I don’t feel anger towards people like her but sympathy. I have a special hatred for people like Trump and Akex Jones who use their resentments and fears to attain power and influence.

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Scottishdragon  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:47:13pm

re: #132 freetoken

She went down a conspiracy theory rathole after a federal judge screwed her over on a 450,000 dollar sexual harassment case she had won in a jury trial. She started having severe anxiety problems and she eventually got fired from her railroad engineer job. That seems to be when she went completely bonkers online with saying the FLOTUS as a ‘transexual’ pervert and the kids were all abducted from some other person. Then she went into the demands that the Clinton family and the Obama family all be rounded up and executed and the White House be burned to the ground.

Something broke in her and she is not going to come back from it.

She is far from the only one who has fallen through the social safety net and is retaliating in this fashion. We have 40 years of the GOP destroying the tax base and the industries that these people relied on, and then made sure these “moochers” had no support from the government when everything went all to hell.

Even if Hillary does win, we have a massive social nightmare on our hands and no ready means of fixing it.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:47:54pm

re: #129 Scottishdragon

Absolutely bug fuck crazy.

Plus the part where she ran a red light with her fucking train to get out of the job she hated.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:48:57pm

re: #136 dangerman

I used to live in NPB!

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Scottishdragon  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:49:11pm

re: #143 HappyWarrior

It is. I don’t feel anger towards people like her but sympathy. I have a special hatred for people like Trump and Akex Jones who use their resentments and fears to attain power and influence.

This.

I don’t blame her. I sure as fuck blame the people who pushed her in this direction and then used her as an audience for their poison.

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MsJ  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:49:48pm

re: #143 HappyWarrior

It is. I don’t feel anger towards people like her but sympathy. I have a special hatred for people like Trump and Akex Jones who use their resentments and fears to attain power and influence.

I know. Both she and her husband are from and remain in an area that’s virtually economically dead. She had men shit in her for years. She had and lost a good job all while a bunch of asshole men harassed her for daring to have a guy’s job. Her husband fared just as well.

I don’t know how you fix that. I don’t know if you can. I do know that her pain (as well as the illness) is real. And I’m sure that frustration is felt in small and dying towns across America.

I also know the GOP doesn’t give the first shit. But theee folks can’t see through the pain.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:50:29pm

re: #140 Ziggy_TARDIS

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:50:43pm

Now he’s telling Bernie what to think.

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ObserverArt  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:51:17pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve just seen the first woolly worm of the season.
According to folklore weather forecasting, this worm being a solid brown indicates a mild winter forthcoming here in the Backwoods.
YAY!

(I’ll take whatever good news I can get…)

I’ve noticed the squirrels aren’t packing on the pounds and fur and they don’t seem to be as active this year burying walnuts in the area around the base of my big ass spruce tree in the backyard. I hope that too is a sign.

Also, natural gas prices are up a bit. I have to renew my contract for gas supplier and the prices are higher. I’m thinking they know they won’t be selling as much gas for home heating so they are going to make it up by lifting the costs.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:51:47pm

re: #149 Stanley Sea

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Scottishdragon  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:52:37pm

re: #145 Stanley Sea

Absolutely bug fuck crazy.

Plus the part where she ran a red light with her fucking train to get out of the job she hated.

I doubt she did that deliberately. She sounds genuinely ill and should have been in a long term outpatient treatment program before that ever happened.

But here in the USA, we tend to not get involved with mental illness until it gets bad enough that the cops have to show up. Then, the person gets shot as often as not.

She was lucky. She actually made it to the facility alive…but she is an older white woman after all.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:52:40pm

Dim Jim being SMOTI

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Charles Johnson  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:53:58pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:54:18pm

re: #152 Ziggy_TARDIS

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jeffreyw  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:54:31pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve just seen the first woolly worm of the season.
According to folklore weather forecasting, this worm being a solid brown indicates a mild winter forthcoming here in the Backwoods.
YAY!

(I’ll take whatever good news I can get…)

uuhhh… I have a bad feeling about this…

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thedopefishlives  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:55:04pm

re: #157 jeffreyw

uuhhh… I have a bad feeling about this…

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Well, we’re boned.

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:56:34pm

re: #128 Ziggy_TARDIS

No, I mean polls that are worthless for other reasons.

CVoter? They have been involved in corruption issues in India.

LA Times? Extreme outlier, with weird procedures.

Then, the online polls.

So what. The poll results are *weighted*.
I’m pretty sure Silver knows this stuff better than you do.

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:58:56pm

re: #159 Nyet

So what. The poll results are *weighted*.
I’m pretty sure Silver knows this stuff better than you do.

We’ve talked about Silver a lot. Silver knows numbers, but he likes to play with numbers. And, as Sam Wang said, Silver has clicks to get now.

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Sionainn  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:59:35pm

re: #10 calochortus

Apparently all women cheat on their husbands too. Mr. C and I will have to discuss this over dinner tonight. Probably won’t be as interesting as Giuliani supposes.

LOL. I was just thinking that.

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 2:59:39pm

re: #160 Belafon

We’ve talked about Silver a lot. Silver knows numbers, but he likes to play with numbers. And, as Sam Wang said, Silver has clicks to get now.

None of which says anything about the accuracy of his model.

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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:00:44pm
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Sionainn  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:00:49pm

I am so tired of misogynists. I was called a “****” today because I had the audacity to have an opinion contrary to that of a man. And, to my credit, was actually being polite to the asshole the entire time.

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TedStriker  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:02:36pm

re: #150 The Vicious Babushka

Now he’s telling Bernie what to think.

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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:03:59pm

More evidence that The Dilbert Guy is an utterly amoral scuzzball.

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makeitstop  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:04:16pm

A friend sent this link over, and I just spent 90 minutes watching the whole thing.

It’s a New Musical Express Poll Winners’ Concert from 1965. Practically the entire damned British Invasion is there:

Moody Blues
Freddie & The Dreamers
Georgie Fame & The Blue Flames
The Seekers
Herman’s Hermits
The Ivy League
Sounds Incorporated
Wayne Fontana & The Mindbenders
Rolling Stones
Cilla Black
Donovan
Them (Van Morrison)
The Searchers
Dusty Springfield
The Animals
The Beatles
The Kinks

If you’re a fan like I am, it’s well worth your time. Dusty, Burdon and The Fabs in particlar are excellent.

Beatles/Stones/Kinks/Animals & more! — Live Full Concert 1965

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ObserverArt  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:04:49pm

re: #150 The Vicious Babushka

Now he’s telling Bernie what to think.

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Bernie should pull his endorsement of Crooked Hillary after she decieved him and then attacked him and his supporters.
5:48 PM - 2 Oct 2016
802 802 Retweets 1,928 1,928 likes

He’s too late. Bernie already agreed to what Hillary said. I believe it was already posted earlier today here at LGF.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:05:52pm

re: #162 Nyet

None of which says anything about the accuracy of his model.

It’s useful to remember that his models (2 out of 3) are designed to change results as the campaign closes. ‘Polls-plus’ includes inputs from historical trends and changing economic numbers, among other things. We also don’t have the state and precinct level data he uses in his special sauce. Can’t get wrapped up in daily shifts. The most important take-away is that Florida is essentially tied.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:06:10pm

hmmmmm

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:07:50pm

re: #162 Nyet

None of which says anything about the accuracy of his model.

I’d probably have more respect for him if after asserting there was high volatility in this election cycle he’d bothered to come back and address Sam Wang’s contradiction.

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plansbandc  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:07:58pm

re: #170 Stanley Sea

Seems a tad Rage Furbyesque

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:09:35pm

re: #171 goddamnedfrank

Wang and Silver have a long-standing feud and will say things about each other. It’s normal. An evidence-free insinuation of foul play for clicks - not normal.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:11:43pm

Yikes! This is what happens when you add senility to a lifetime of promoting foolishness.

Pat Robertson Attributes Trump’s Sniffing to the Holy Spirit

Televangelist Pat Robertson has come to the defense of Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, who had a disastrous performance at Monday night’s debate. Apart from lying repeatedly and interrupting Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton several times, Trump was also seen to be sniffing.

Howard Dean, a medical doctor and former Democratic presidential candidate, suggested Trump may been using cocaine, but Robertson had a more spiritual explanation.

“Trump sniffing may have been a sign of the Holy Spirit coming out of him,” said Robertson on “The 700 Club.” “The Holy Spirit affects people in strange ways. Some people go into a frenzy, some people start laughing uncontrollably, some people bark like dogs. Apparently, Trump sniffs.”

Addendum: The highlighted portion indicates that fundies will have a ready explanation if their thrice married, casino profiteer hero should, in fact, go into a frenzy, laugh uncontrollably, and bark like a dog during the next debate.

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ObserverArt  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:12:01pm

re: #157 jeffreyw

uuhhh… I have a bad feeling about this…

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From the Old Farmers Almanac site:

www.almanac.com WOOLLY BEAR CATERPILLARS AND WEATHER PREDICTION

WHITE ONES ARE NOT WOOLLY BEARS!

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I keep seeing people post about white “woolly bears”. There is no such thing. There are a couple of different species of moth caterpillars that are white and fluffy or fuzzy, but they are not true Woolly Bears(Isabella Tiger Moth). If you check online photos, you can see what the white fuzzy caterpillars are. I see the lovely fuzzy white ones around this time of year as well. They have much longer hair, are smaller and thinner.

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freetoken  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:12:15pm

re: #173 Nyet

538 is ESPN. Outside of elections, they spend a lot of effort on sports odds. Because sports betting is a giant international business.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:15:00pm

re: #176 freetoken

538 is ESPN. Outside of elections, they spend a lot of effort on sports odds. Because sports betting is a giant international business.

IIRC, Silver developed his political tools as a sideline to his first love-sports betting.

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ObserverArt  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:15:10pm

re: #166 teleskiguy

More evidence that The Dilbert Guy is an utterly amoral scuzzball.

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freetoken  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:16:04pm

re: #177 Decatur Deb

I’m just appreciating the irony that 538 is in the same business as Drumpfskind Casinos….

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allegro  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:16:07pm

re: #167 makeitstop

Wow! What a find. I’m already blown with the Moody Blues doing Do Diddly. Saving it to watch the whole thing later. Thank you!

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EPR-radar  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:16:42pm

re: #174 Shiplord Kirel

Robertson is slandering his own god by suggesting that Trump’s debate performance was inspired by the Holy Spirit.

I suppose an omniscient and omnipotent entity can be divinely incompetent, but that isn’t how the omni- stuff is usually interpreted.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:17:18pm

re: #179 freetoken

I’m just appreciating the irony that 538 is in the same business as Drumpfskind Casinos….

Apparently not. Silver seems to make money.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:17:53pm

re: #150 The Vicious Babushka

Now he’s telling Bernie what to think.

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scottslemmons  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:19:16pm

re: #181 EPR-radar

Robertson is slandering his own god by suggesting that Trump’s debate performance was inspired by the Holy Spirit.

I always figured Pat was working for the Other Side.

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ObserverArt  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:19:29pm

re: #167 makeitstop

A friend sent this link over, and I just spent 90 minutes watching the whole thing.

It’s a New Musical Express Poll Winners’ Concert from 1965. Practically the entire damned British Invasion is there:

If you’re a fan like I am, it’s well worth your time. Dusty, Burdon and The Fabs in particlar are excellent.

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I found that about a month ago. Pretty cool.

I don’t know if you caught my comment last Sunday night…but I got a chance to see The Dandy Warhols here in Columbus at Skullys Music Diner and they put on one of the best sounding trippy music experiences I’ve seen. Sound wise, they impressed me in the same way I’ve been impressed in the past by the likes of Genesis and King Crimson.

Just thought I’d mention that since you are (hopefully) on the board right now. I think they are headed to the east coast right about now too.

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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:19:38pm

re: #174 Shiplord Kirel

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:19:52pm

re: #157 jeffreyw

uuhhh… I have a bad feeling about this…

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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:20:03pm

re: #178 ObserverArt

Any luck on your ebook travails?

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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:21:09pm
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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:21:35pm

re: #177 Decatur Deb

IIRC, Silver developed his political tools as a sideline to his first love-sports betting.

And, strictly speaking, neither Wang, nor Silver are trained statisticians, so of course one should treat what they say with a grain of salt. They still probably know more about this stuff than anyone here, and while there may be problems with both models, dismissing the one or the other on the basis of “the polls the model uses are crappy”, apparently not understanding that the poll data is not used raw but rather weighted, is just not serious.

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retired cynic  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:22:05pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve just seen the first woolly worm of the season.
According to folklore weather forecasting, this worm being a solid brown indicates a mild winter forthcoming here in the Backwoods.
YAY!

(I’ll take whatever good news I can get…)

I’ve only seen a few, and they were pale yellow. <!>

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:23:21pm

re: #189 teleskiguy

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:24:19pm

re: #190 Nyet

And, strictly speaking, neither Wang, nor Silver are trained statisticians, so of course one should treat what they say with a grain of salt. They still probably know more about this stuff than anyone here, and while there may be problems with both models, dismissing the one or the other on the basis of “the polls the model uses are crappy”, apparently not understanding that the poll data is not used raw but rather weighted, is just not serious.

At the moment, I use Wang for comfort and Silver for motivation. We’ll be back in Florida at dawn tomorrow.

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ObserverArt  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:27:21pm

re: #188 Stanley Sea

Any luck on your ebook travails?

Yes! I found Android likes to keep files that you thought were deleted, even if they were the same damn filename. As I mentioned in my rather long rant last night, I found where they were stored on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 tablet, wiped them out and sure enough the new files were just fine once downloaded.

I am not impressed with that little quirk. As I said last night, I’ve found the Android Operating System to be odd in a few ways.

Now I need to find out how to also make the epub or pdf files into freaking Amazon mobi files. I wish there was one standard for ebooks. Unfortunately Adobe InDesign does not create mobi files. Must be an Amazon control/rights thing. They sure don’t make it easy for a designer.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:29:10pm

re: #194 ObserverArt

I guess I missed last nights report. Felt you pain & hoped you’d solve it. That pang of wanting to help but having zero clue!

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:29:30pm

re: #190 Nyet

And, strictly speaking, neither Wang, nor Silver are trained statisticians, so of course one should treat what they say with a grain of salt.

Neuroscientist PhDs are in fact trained statisticians.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:29:49pm

re: #194 ObserverArt

Yes! I found Android likes to keep files that you thought were deleted, even if they were the same damn filename. As I mentioned in my rather long rant last night, I found where they were stored on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 tablet, wiped them out and sure enough the new files were just fine once downloaded.

I am not impressed with that little quirk. As I said last night, I’ve found the Android Operating System to be odd in a few ways.

Now I need to find out how to also make the epub or pdf files into freaking Amazon mobi files. I wish there was one standard for ebooks. Unfortunately Adobe InDesign does not create mobi files. Must be an Amazon control/rights thing. They sure don’t make it easy for a designer.

Calibre can do that (and it’s a free software you can download).

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ObserverArt  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:30:24pm

re: #191 retired cynic

I’ve only seen a few, and they were pale yellow. <!>

Did you see my #175? The link might explain those colors and if they are actually woolybears. White fuzzy caterpillars apparently are not.

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Sionainn  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:30:50pm

re: #164 Sionainn

I am so tired of misogynists. I was called a “****” today because I had the audacity to have an opinion contrary to that of a man. And, to my credit, was actually being polite to the asshole the entire time.

And I didn’t realize that LGF automatically *** the nasty words. I like it.

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ObserverArt  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:31:31pm

re: #195 Stanley Sea

I guess I missed last nights report. Felt you pain & hoped you’d solve it. That pang of wanting to help but having zero clue!

Thanks for asking. It cost me about two days trying to figure it out. And of course, that does not pay.

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:31:45pm

re: #193 Decatur Deb

At the moment, I use Wang for comfort and Silver for motivation. We’ll be back in Florida at dawn tomorrow.

IIRC Wang was the only one to predict a Dem win in the 2014 midterms, so be careful with this kind of comfort ;)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:32:11pm

Art! Here’s the link to Calibre.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:33:24pm

re: #199 Sionainn

And I didn’t realize that LGF automatically *** the nasty words. I like it.

Don’t be too relaxed. Everything shows up as written if you’re viewing from Spy.

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ObserverArt  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:33:56pm

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

Calibre can do that (and it’s a free software you can download).

I have! I am going to mess with it tomorrow.

I’ve read where it might not keep the formatting and the fonts and all that. We shall see.

I have both the epub and pdf files looking like the InDesign document that will be used for actual printed books. Hopefully converting one or the other will give me what I want.

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unproven innocence  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:35:00pm

I remain unconvinced that everyone cheats on Hillary’s husband.

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calochortus  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:36:09pm

So, the stupid sprinkler is in it’s new location. All I need to do is flush the line, pressure test it and fill in the rest of the little trench. Tomorrow. I did partly fill it on the grounds that a 12” deep trench 3 feet from the back door is probably not a great idea, but I left the connections reasonably visible in case of leaks.

Now we’re getting ready to head off to my daughter’s place for dinner and a little family get-together.
Hasta mañana, all.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:36:42pm

IIRC Ioffe was attacked by the alt-right BEFORE they went after Baby Whiplash

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makeitstop  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:37:15pm

re: #185 ObserverArt

I found that about a month ago. Pretty cool.

I don’t know if you caught my comment last Sunday night…but I got a chance to see The Dandy Warhols here in Columbus at Skullys Music Diner and they put on one of the best sounding trippy music experiences I’ve seen. Sound wise, they impressed me in the same way I’ve been impressed in the past by the likes of Genesis and King Crimson.

Just thought I’d mention that since you are (hopefully) on the board right now. I think they are headed to the east coast right about now too.

Thanks for the heads up! I’ll see when they’re getting here, if I’m not otherwise spoken for I’ll check them out.

I saw Cactus (with the legend and one of my all time heroes, Jim McCarty) and Pat Travers on Friday night, and spent yesterday at Rock Carnival over in Jersey, which closed with the last NY area appearance of Twisted Sister before they hang up their cleats at the end of the year. I took a lot of pics, and for the first time in 15 years I shot from the stage for part of the show. Here’s a couple.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:37:19pm

re: #204 ObserverArt

I have! I am going to mess with it tomorrow.

I’ve read where it might not keep the formatting and the fonts and all that. We shall see.

I have both the epub and pdf files looking like the InDesign document that will be used for actual printed books. Hopefully converting one or the other will give me what I want.

I’ve used it to convert epub to mobi and it’s not been a problem format-wise. Fonts, I’ve never bothered to check.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:37:39pm

re: #162 Nyet

None of which says anything about the accuracy of his model.

The thing is, in the end they’re all models.

Wang and Silver are actually saying the same thing - “Hillary is ahead where she needs to be” - but each has his own view of how to mode the uncertainty of that conclusion. And because there’s only one actual trial of their predictions, it’s not possible to determine whose uncertainty calculations are accurate.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:37:57pm

re: #207 The Vicious Babushka

IIRC Ioffe was attacked by the alt-right BEFORE they went after Baby Whiplash

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:40:23pm

Not to mention Ben was pals with Milo.

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:40:54pm

re: #210 Blind Frog Belly White

The thing is, in the end they’re all models.

Wang and Silver are actually saying the same thing - “Hillary is ahead where she needs to be” - but each has his own view of how to mode the uncertainty of that conclusion. And because there’s only one actual trial of their predictions, it’s not possible to determine whose uncertainty calculations are accurate.

Absolutely.

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retired cynic  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:41:47pm

re: #198 ObserverArt

Did you see my #175? The link might explain those colors and if they are actually woolybears. White fuzzy caterpillars apparently are not.

Yep, posted before reading all the rest of the thread. Sad!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:41:49pm

re: #167 makeitstop

A friend sent this link over, and I just spent 90 minutes watching the whole thing.

It’s a New Musical Express Poll Winners’ Concert from 1965. Practically the entire damned British Invasion is there:

If you’re a fan like I am, it’s well worth your time. Dusty, Burdon and The Fabs in particlar are excellent.

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Whoa - and introduced by notorious child molester Jimmy Savile, too.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:42:01pm
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BeachDem  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:42:16pm

re: #136 dangerman

a lawyer as well
assume he knows how to protect himself

apparently lives near my neck of the woods

My parents used to live in Lake Worth—I was trying to remember if his name sounded familiar, but then realized that my folks died 25+ years ago, so Jack would have been a “yoot” back then and was obviously still living up north.

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ObserverArt  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:43:18pm

re: #208 makeitstop

Thanks for the heads up! I’ll see when they’re getting here, if I’m not otherwise spoken for I’ll check them out.

I saw Cactus (with the legend and one of my all time heroes, Jim McCarty) and Pat Travers on Friday night, and spent yesterday at Rock Carnival over in Jersey, which closed with the last NY area appearance of Twisted Sister before they hang up their cleats at the end of the year. I took a lot of pics, and for the first time in 15 years I shot from the stage for part of the show. Here’s a couple.

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Just checked. They may have been on the east coast this past week. I think they headed that way after Columbus. Looks like they are heading south to Georgia and Florida next. Sorry.

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Archangelus  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:43:47pm

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:43:58pm

OK I am signing off now. Happy Sweet New Year Everyone!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:44:20pm

re: #216 The Vicious Babushka

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In fact, Ben only turned against them when they attacked him. As usual the manbaby has his history wrong.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:44:42pm

re: #219 Archangelus

{{gentle hugs}}

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:44:48pm

re: #219 Archangelus

{{{Archangelus}}} My condolences!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:45:22pm

The discussion of what polls to include is an interesting one. TPM’s PollTracker allows you to delete pollsters from the average, which is educational, but one must be cautious. Overall, however, if deleting a single poll causes a significant shift, you can conclude the poll is an outlier - which doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

For fun, try deleting Rasmussen from the national horserace average and watch what happens to the trendlines.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:45:36pm
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ipsos  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:46:35pm

re: #219 Archangelus

{{{{archangelus}}}}

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:47:37pm

re: #225 Charles Johnson

LGF had been onto the alt-right, the Breitbrats, the Eurofascists before everyone else caught up.

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freetoken  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:48:13pm

re: #219 Archangelus

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:48:25pm

re: #219 Archangelus

Hope he had a wonderful life—it certainly must have been an interesting one.

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makeitstop  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:49:09pm

re: #218 ObserverArt

Just checked. They may have been on the east coast this past week. I think they’re headed that way after Columbus. Looks like they are heading south to Georgia and Florida next. Sorry.

No worries, there’s always next year. :)

On my list now.

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ObserverArt  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:49:55pm

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve used it to convert epub to mobi and it’s not been a problem format-wise. Fonts, I’ve never bothered to check.

Yeah, I have some special little flourishes screened behind the chapter titles and quotes and fancy initial caps in the InDesign files that were a bit hard to get into the epubs, but managed to do it.

Some epub readers converted them to standard fonts and that looked terrible. But the client/author had them in an original version and she wanted me to update the book and make it both ebook and audiobook (she recorded the wave files).

I used a Chrome app called Readium that worked pretty well to check files against Play Books on my Tab 4 tablet. I guess not all ebook readers are of the same quality…which is a shame.

It has been an experience!

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:50:53pm

Well I was correct that Hillary would be the first to wish a Happy New Year. How long will it take for that Trump person to do similar?

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TedStriker  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:51:44pm

re: #184 scottslemmons

I always figured Pat was working for the Other Side.

I’m sure that Robertson and Ol’ Scratch would become fast friends when the time comes.

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:52:22pm

re: #232 PhillyPretzel

Well I was correct that Hillary would be the first to wish a Happy New Year. How long will it take for that Trump person to do similar?

Greedo Trump was first:

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ObserverArt  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:52:45pm

re: #219 Archangelus

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BeachDem  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:53:33pm

re: #163 teleskiguy

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:53:47pm

re: #234 Nyet

Dang. No doubt it was his wife who prodded him to do it.

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makeitstop  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:53:54pm

re: #232 PhillyPretzel

Well I was correct that Hillary would be the first to wish a Happy New Year. How long will it take for that Trump person to do similar?

Actually, he seems to have edged Hil by about 40 minutes.

re: #189 teleskiguy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:54:05pm
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MsJ  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:54:06pm

re: #219 Archangelus

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:54:40pm

re: #237 PhillyPretzel

He’s still Not Good for the Jews.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:55:21pm

re: #241 Nyet

I know. That is why I said months ago I am splitting my ticket.

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jeffreyw  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:56:25pm

re: #175 ObserverArt

They have much longer hair, are smaller and thinner.

Wooly Bears with a cocaine habit! We. Are. Doomed!!

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:56:36pm

re: #242 PhillyPretzel

I know. That is why I said months ago I am splitting my ticket.

Splitting?

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:59:11pm

re: #244 Nyet

In November it will be a general election. I can vote for whomever I choose. Even though I am one of those Republicans I will be pushing the button for Hillary.

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jeffreyw  Oct 2, 2016 • 3:59:41pm

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh boy…that’s the caterpillar that gives away very painful stings.

This right here is why people stock canned goods and bunker up.

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Skip Intro  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:02:54pm

re: #181 EPR-radar

Robertson is slandering his own god by suggesting that Trump’s debate performance was inspired by the Holy Spirit.

I suppose an omniscient and omnipotent entity can be divinely incompetent, but that isn’t how the omni- stuff is usually interpreted.

Robertson’s god is Money.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:03:30pm

Imagine if the Clintons haven’t paid taxes since 1995…

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CleverToad  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:03:44pm

re: #219 Archangelus

{{sympathies for you and your family}}

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Sionainn  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:03:54pm

re: #219 Archangelus

My heart goes out to you.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:05:18pm

re: #208 makeitstop

Pat Travers. Music from the past.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:06:54pm

re: #219 Archangelus

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:06:55pm

nocturnal me - echo and the bunnymen

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BeachDem  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:06:56pm

re: #199 Sionainn

And I didn’t realize that LGF automatically *** the nasty words. I like it.

Wait, so fuck isn’t considered a nasty word? Good to know since it appears in at least 50% of my comments.

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:07:30pm

re: #216 The Vicious Babushka

The truth is that Ben didn’t give a shit about the attacks from the “alt-right” until they went after him.

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retired cynic  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:09:33pm

re: #217 BeachDem

My parents used to live in Lake Worth—I was trying to remember if his name sounded familiar, but then realized that my folks died 25+ years ago, so Jack would have been a “yoot” back then and was obviously still living up north.

I had family in Lake Worth, also. My Godmother, and a great-aunt and uncle. Enjoyed visiting the area, when I was a ‘yoot’.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:09:50pm

re: #219 Archangelus

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:09:56pm

re: #254 BeachDem

Wait, so fuck isn’t considered a nasty word? Good to know since it appears in at least 50% of my comments.

I suspect it’s the N-word and the C-word.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:11:09pm

re: #255 Belafon

The truth is that Ben didn’t give a shit about the attacks from the “alt-right” until they went after him.

No kiddin’.

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Great White Snark  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:11:14pm

re: #248 GlutenFreeJesus

Imagine if the Clintons haven’t paid taxes since 1995…

I can’t imagine that anymore than having not paid any taxes since last paycheck.

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Sionainn  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:11:56pm

re: #254 BeachDem

Wait, so fuck isn’t considered a nasty word? Good to know since it appears in at least 50% of my comments.

No fucking way! It was the c-word that assholes like to throw at women when they’ve got nothing else.

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makeitstop  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:11:58pm

re: #251 Stanley Sea

Pat Travers. Music from the past.

He was pretty good! I forgot that he always did have a little style. :)

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gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:13:22pm
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A Cranky One  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:13:49pm

re: #219 Archangelus

(((Archangelus}}} My sincere condolences.

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Sionainn  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:14:55pm

re: #263 gocart mozart

No, Rudy, everyone does not have their own infidelities.

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b.d.  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:15:14pm

re: #261 Sionainn

No fucking way! It was the c-word that assholes like to throw at women when they’ve got nothing else.

I think he was referring to the word Crack*r as the C-Word, I have been told that it is one of the most offensive words there is.

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Sionainn  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:17:50pm

re: #267 b.d.

I think he was referring to the word Crack*r as the C-Word, I have been told that it is one of the most offensive words there is.

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Okay, that made me really laugh out loud. Thanks! My family probably thinks I’m a lunatic.

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(((The Engineer Lobuno)))  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:18:14pm

re: #219 Archangelus

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:18:28pm

awwwwwww

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STFU Rudy.

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gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:19:27pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:19:29pm

re: #263 gocart mozart

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:20:05pm

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is sweet.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:31:21pm

re: #76 calochortus

I’ve been known to write things I’ve already done on my list, just so I can cross them off. I’m probably nuts.

Not nuts! You did the thing, damn it, you get to check it off a list!
(Or I am also nuts…)

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:37:41pm

re: #254 BeachDem

Wait, so fuck isn’t considered a nasty word? Good to know since it appears in at least 50% of my comments.

LGFsuffers from The Scunthorpe Problem though. I started out with a link to Wikipedia, but the URL is sanitised as well, so here’s a video about Penistone and web filters instead.

Why Web Filters Don’t Work: Penistone and the Scunthorpe Problem

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:40:36pm

re: #219 Archangelus

I’m so sorry for your loss.

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CleverToad  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:42:05pm

re: #254 BeachDem

Wait, so fuck isn’t considered a nasty word? Good to know since it appears in at least 50% of my comments.

These days it seems to be considered merely a standard adjective or interjection.

I still give my teenager grief for using it in front of me; and give his father grief for using it in front of him. Mixed company rules! Not to mention my mother still gives me grief if I say ‘crap’ in front of her, which cracks the kid up when she says it.

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:42:33pm

How the fuck does Netflix Marvel manage to be so good?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:42:55pm

re: #281 Nyet

How the fuck Netflix Marvel manage to be so good?

Luke Cage?

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philosophus invidius  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:43:07pm

Trump tells it like it is.

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Fast to 10:00 to see this part of the exchange.

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:43:16pm

re: #282 Blind Frog Belly White

Of course.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:44:15pm

re: #280 CleverToad

These days it seems to be considered merely a standard adjective or interjection.

I still give my teenager grief for using it in front of me; and give his father grief for using it in front of him. Mixed company rules! Not to mention my mother still gives me grief if I say ‘crap’ in front of her, which cracks the kid up when she says it.

I cuss like a sailor, after years of working in the lab. Never bothered Mom and Dad, but every so often on FB people get their panties in a twist.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:44:54pm

re: #284 Nyet

Of course.

Haven’t started it yet, myself, but I LOVED Daredevil and Jessica Jones.

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:45:19pm

re: #286 Blind Frog Belly White

Haven’t started it yet, myself, but I LOVED Daredevil and Jessica Jones.

Then you’ll love it too.

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vgranucci  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:45:39pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart

I just had a vision of Assange attempting an “Urbe et Orbi” blessing from his balcony.

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Great White Snark  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:45:46pm

re: #281 Nyet

How the fuck does Netflix Marvel manage to be so good?

Seems to me a fresh look how to make a show. Well apart from the usual structure of who makes and who pays. Shorter-Not The Big Studios.

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gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:46:25pm
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freetoken  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:46:26pm

RT brings us the truth:

NASA cuts live feed from ISS after ‘UFO’ spotted

Why is American media hiding this from us?????????

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TedStriker  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:47:43pm

re: #280 CleverToad

These days it seems to be considered merely a standard adjective or interjection.

I still give my teenager grief for using it in front of me; and give his father grief for using it in front of him. Mixed company rules! Not to mention my mother still gives me grief if I say ‘crap’ in front of her, which cracks the kid up when she says it.

Fuckin’ A!

///

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Great White Snark  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:49:47pm

re: #291 freetoken

RT brings us the truth:

NASA cuts live feed from ISS after ‘UFO’ spotted

Why is American media hiding this from us?????????

Double check you might have had Nat Geo cable and ancient aliens.
///

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TedStriker  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:51:14pm

re: #278 Grunthos the Flatulent

LGFsuffers from The S****horpe Problem though. I started out with a link to Wikipedia, but the URL is sanitised as well, so here’s a video about Penistone and web filters instead.

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I always enjoy watching the Top Gear episode where Clarkson & Co. construct the Hover Van at their “top secret” engineering facility in Penistone.

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:51:38pm

re: #291 freetoken

RT brings us the truth:

NASA cuts live feed from ISS after ‘UFO’ spotted

Why is American media hiding this from us?????????

Ask Ed Schultz and Larry King…

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CuriousLurker  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:53:33pm

re: #219 Archangelus

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b.d.  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:56:35pm

DUDE, THAT WAS YOUR SECURITY BRIEFING NOT FOXNEWS!!!

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BeachDem  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:58:26pm

re: #290 gocart mozart

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Speaking of which, Hillary’s latest email includes:

a man who thrills in standing in front of his supporters and accusing his opponent of everything from treason to mental illness.

Last night, at a rally in Manheim, Pennsylvania, Donald Trump offered this new demonstration of his wisdom and sober judgment:

(with a gif of him imitating Hillary here)

And his supporters ate it up.

Her team is good.

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:58:39pm

Meanwhile Kadyrov orders to shoot all drug abusers.

Sorry for a RT link, that’s the only one I found in English:

rt.com

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:59:25pm

re: #297 b.d.

DUDE, THAT WAS YOUR SECURITY BRIEFING NOT FOXNEWS!!!

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The Mosul build-up and rough timing have been in the military news for at least 2 months. Even building dedicated fields for air support.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 2, 2016 • 4:59:57pm

re: #278 Grunthos the Flatulent

LGFsuffers from The Scunthorpe Problem though. I started out with a link to Wikipedia, but the URL is sanitised as well, so here’s a video about Penistone and web filters instead.

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Not any more!

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philosophus invidius  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:00:12pm
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BeachDem  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:01:25pm

re: #300 Decatur Deb

The Mosul build-up and rough timing have been in the military news for at least 2 months. Even building dedicated fields for air support.

But, as with all other things (like that Princess Diana was attractive, or that Bill Clinton was impeached, etc.) NOBODY KNEW ABOUT IT until Trump brought it up!!!

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CuriousLurker  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:02:51pm

re: #291 freetoken

Oh hey, thought of you last night when I bought Herding Hemingway’s Cats: Understanding how our genes work last night. It’ll prolly be ages before I have time to read it, but it looked really good for someone like me that doesn’t know a lot about the subject, especially since the Kindle version was on sale for $1.99! I also got Spirals in Time: The Secret Life and Curious Afterlife of Seashells (also on sale for $1.99), which was on my wish list and led me to the one above.

Too many books, no enough timeeeeeeee…

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Scottishdragon  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:03:12pm

Probably going to get some nasty feedback on twitter…but today is Nat Turner’s bday and a number of folks (including a now infamous movie maker) are pushing a line that he is an indesputable hero.

If your definition of heroism includes taking an axe and butchering children and women in their beds…dude, your definition needs a little fucking work.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:05:31pm

re: #297 b.d.

DUDE, THAT WAS YOUR SECURITY BRIEFING NOT FOXNEWS!!!

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Because the accumulation of troops and the increase in bombing runs definitely wouldn’t have given them a hint.

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:06:03pm

re: #306 Scottishdragon

I remember a discussion here 6 years ago or so where people tried to sort of apologize for that sick murderer.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:06:27pm

re: #166 teleskiguy

More evidence that The Dilbert Guy is an utterly amoral scuzzball.

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When to look at Adams’ webpage you’ll see he’s a full blown Objectivist Ayn Randite.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:09:10pm

re: #300 Decatur Deb

The Mosul build-up and rough timing have been in the military news for at least 2 months. Even building dedicated fields for air support.

This is how stupid Trump is. He doesn’t realize that you can’t just suddenly bring a lot of force to bear on an entrenched opponent without preparations, which are plainly visible. But then, this is they guy who thinks he’s so smart to propose pulling all our troops back from foreign bases and deploying from the US.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:09:48pm

re: #299 Nyet

Meanwhile Kadyrov orders to shoot all drug abusers.

Sorry for a RT link, that’s the only one I found in English:

rt.com

So him & the new president of the Philippines, huh? Duterte: Hitler killed millions of Jews, I will kill millions of drug addicts

That’s how Iran dealt with drug addicts too. Didn’t stop their drug problem though:

VERDIJ, Iran (AP) — Iran is breaking bad.

Officials say methamphetamine production and abuse of hard drugs are skyrocketing in the country despite potentially lethal criminal penalties for users if they are caught. The increase is partly because of Iran’s status as the gateway for the region’s top drug exporter, Afghanistan — and partly because Iranian dealers are profiting so handsomely from sales to overstressed students and exhausted double-jobbers. […]

timesofisrael.com

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freetoken  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:10:12pm

re: #305 CuriousLurker

Your Amazon links aren’t working for me for some reason.

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BeachDem  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:10:36pm

re: #310 Blind Frog Belly White

This is how stupid Trump is. He doesn’t realize that you can’t just suddenly bring a lot of force to bear on an entrenched opponent without preparations, which are plainly visible. But then, this is they guy who thinks he’s so smart to propose pulling all our troops back from foreign bases and deploying from the US.

And by running the whole operation via courier.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:12:21pm

re: #312 freetoken

Refresh the comment and they’ll work now - there was an extraneous space at the end of the links.

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Interesting Times  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:13:42pm

re: #227 Nyet

LGF had been onto the alt-right, the Breitbrats, the Eurofascists before everyone else caught up.

On that note, check out what some dKos members are saying about LGF on this comment thread:

Yeah, that place is full on liberal now. Never saw that coming.
…
I had no idea that this had happened. There must be an interesting story behind this.

I replied with a link and excerpt from Charles’s “Why I Parted Ways with the Right” thread, and pointed out it was written in 2009.

Talk about prescience - the 2016 GOP nominee for president lives up to every item on that list.

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Nyet  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:14:51pm

re: #315 Interesting Times

Funnily enough, I have seen that exchange just recently. Serendipity.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:14:52pm

re: #313 BeachDem

And by running the whole operation vis courier.

He overestimates the value of surprise by radically underestimating the difficulty of achieving it. This is really dangerous thinking, because his approach would require you to sacrifice force and proper preparation, as well as effective communications, for surprise. Surprise is great but you need to attack with more than a couple Boy Scouts and an angry badger.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:15:59pm

re: #312 freetoken

Your Amazon links aren’t working for me for some reason.

Thanks, fixed now. I guess whatever regex Charles is using to rewrite the URLs is choking on my use of smile.amazon.com for charity stuff.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:17:16pm

re: #278 Grunthos the Flatulent

See also “Clbuttic”.

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Jay C  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:19:32pm

re: #315 Interesting Times

Aaah, give the KosKids a break, IT: it usually takes them a while to catch up with stuff.

Tho, SRSLY, not recognizing LGF as a former RW site??

Dude!: hit “refresh” once in a while…

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CuriousLurker  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:20:49pm

re: #314 Charles Johnson

Refresh the comment and they’ll work now - there was an extraneous space at the end of the links.

Hm, I went back & took out the smile part because I was seeing smile.amazon.com.

Testing: The Devil and the Jews: The Medieval Conception of the Jew and Its Relation to Modern Anti-Semitism.

I restarted my browser, but it’s still breaking my links.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:21:17pm

re: #317 Blind Frog Belly White

He overestimates the value of surprise by radically underestimating the difficulty of achieving it. This is really dangerous thinking, because his approach would require you to sacrifice force and proper preparation, as well as effective communications, for surprise. Surprise is great but you need to attack with more than a couple Boy Scouts and an angry badger.

And sometimes, depending on their state of morale and the quality of their leadership, you want them to see the hammer raising for a long time.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:22:44pm

re: #301 Charles Johnson

Not any more!

Well played, that man.

I had fun with a user of our website some years back, complaining they could browse index pages, but not view any documents.

They were using WinGate content filtering, and it objected to URLs with the word “document” in them.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:25:41pm

re: #219 Archangelus

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:26:09pm

re: #193 Decatur Deb

At the moment, I use Wang for comfort and Silver for motivation.

That is an awesome sentence that could never be interpreted in any way other than how you meant it.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:26:48pm

re: #280 CleverToad

These days it seems to be considered merely a standard adjective or interjection.

I still give my teenager grief for using it in front of me; and give his father grief for using it in front of him. Mixed company rules! Not to mention my mother still gives me grief if I say ‘crap’ in front of her, which cracks the kid up when she says it.

I got in trouble with my RWNJ (but I still love em) faux Christian parents for saying OMG a few times. Puleeze.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:27:36pm

re: #326 Jebediah, RBG

That is an awesome sentence that could never be interpreted in any way other than how you meant it.

Including initials would have been superfluous.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:28:38pm

re: #323 Decatur Deb

And sometimes, depending on their state of morale and the quality of their leadership, you want them to see the hammer raising for a long time.

I could see Trump in a discussion with the Joint Chiefs about attacking ISIS, and not letting them know we were coming, and then getting really upset when the Generals point out that you can’t just make 10,000 heavily armed troops with tanks, artillery, close air support, and strategic bombing suddenly appear outside the city without a lot of preparation, not to mention all the logistical support that they’d need.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:31:06pm

re: #329 Blind Frog Belly White

I could see Trump in a discussion with the Joint Chiefs about attacking ISIS, and not letting them know we were coming, and then getting really upset when the Generals point out that you can’t just make 10,000 heavily armed troops with tanks, artillery, close air support, and strategic bombing suddenly appear outside the city without a lot of preparation, not to mention all the logistical support that they’d need.

Trump learned his tactics firsthand, when he was a young Marine captain helping to raise the siege of Khe Sanh. Or maybe that was someone else.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:35:09pm

re: #330 Decatur Deb

Trump learned his tactics firsthand, when he was a young Marine captain helping to raise the siege of Khe Sanh. Or maybe that was someone else.

I thought ‘firsthand’ was how he avoided STDs during his personal Vietnam, the dating scene of the 1970s?

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stpaulbear  Oct 2, 2016 • 5:43:30pm

re: #273 Blind Frog Belly White

Hearing that again, it made me think of a Sesame Street song, “Everybody Sleeps”, only with Giuliani, it’s “Everybody Cheats”. This is certainly true of his circle of friends.

Everybody hurts…
…someone.

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majii  Oct 2, 2016 • 6:36:35pm

re: #219 Archangelus

You have my very sincere condolence. I lost a brother to lung and brain cancer in January 2014, and one to stomach/colon cancer in October 2015, so I have firsthand experience with losing a loved one to this disease. I’m still reeling from these losses.


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