The Bob Cesca Podcast: Trump Fatigue

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Trump Fatigue — NSFW; The great TRex David Ferguson from the TRex Report podcast is here; Don McGahn resigns; America is tired of Donald Trump; The latest on the Khashoggi murder; Jared Kushner and Trump working with the Saudi coverup; Trump likes due process again; Jared and MBS are texting buddies; The stakes in the governor races; Fusion GPS lawyer nails Fox News on the Russian attack; Trump and Lavrov exchanged makeup; Trump said Obama should be investigated; The Republican started the violent rhetoric; and so much more.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:10:12pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:12:22pm

Wow. Trump is off the hook tonight.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:12:50pm

trump fatigue! that’s what i’ve been predicting

it seems inevitable to me that a steady diet of TRUMPTV 24/7 for three years now will lead to a state where we are all sick of his stupid bloated face, even trumpskites

besides, his act is getting old, and a boring trump is a dead trump

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:13:35pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Wow. Trump is off the hook tonight.

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BUT HILLARY CLINTON SAYS IT’S OK TO NOT BE CIVIL!!!11!!! MAXINE WATERS!!1!! ANTIFA!!!!!!

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Skip Intro  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:13:42pm

re: #3 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Well I’m fatigued, but I don’t know if his cult members are.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:14:41pm
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Belafon  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:14:53pm

re: #4 The Vicious Babushka

BUT HILLARY CLINTON SAYS IT’S OK TO NOT BE CIVIL!!!11!!! MAXINE WATERS!!1!! ANTIFA!!!!!!

White men aren’t being uncivil if they beat up someone. They’re just enforcing the hierarchy.

//

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makeitstop  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:15:42pm

re: #3 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

trump fatigue! that’s what i’ve been predicting

it seems inevitable to me that a steady diet of TRUMPTV 24/7 for three years now will lead to a state where we are all sick of his stupid bloated face, even trumpskites

besides, his act is getting old, and a boring trump is a dead trump

Hell, Fox News isn’t even running his mini-Nurembergs in toto any more.

He’s wearing out his welcome among all but the hard core Red Hats.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:16:24pm

The shit is all the way crazy now.

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Dizzy  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:20:22pm

Meanwhile in Canada:

Nine-year-old sells out of Girl Guide cookies in front of cannabis store on first day

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:20:35pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Yet the MSM keeps demanding that Democrats be civil if we don’t acquiesce to Republican bullying. Sigh.

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:25:17pm

re: #11 Patricia Kayden

Yet the MSM keeps demanding that Democrats be civil if we don’t acquiesce to Republican bullying. Sigh.

And that’s why Democrats are ignoring them.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:25:29pm

re: #10 Dizzy

Meanwhile in Canada:

Nine-year-old sells out of Girl Guide cookies in front of cannabis store on first day

Location, Location, Location…

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TedStriker  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:29:39pm

re: #10 Dizzy

Meanwhile in Canada:

Nine-year-old sells out of Girl Guide cookies in front of cannabis store on first day

Smart girl.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:31:48pm

Still want to lecture us on civility assholes?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:32:05pm

re: #10 Dizzy

Meanwhile in Canada:

Nine-year-old sells out of Girl Guide cookies in front of cannabis store on first day

Brilliant

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Dizzy  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:33:03pm

re: #14 TedStriker

Smart girl.

In my ‘foggy’ youth, my friends and I used to go through several packages of girl-guide cookies after indulging. To a stoner they are heavenly.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:38:38pm

Whenever I hear (or am about to hear) that nasal, Queens trash voice, I turn it the fuck off.

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freetoken  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:39:18pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

I don’t know what to expect.

My belief has been that Mueller will drop some more indictments for the minions before he drops the brick on Congress.

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:39:43pm

About that plan to put the partisan in place to investigate Zinke at the interior:

The new findings came after a chaotic week at the Department of Interior. Hours before the report was released, Interior Department officials said that they did not approve the hiring of a political appointee as their agency’s acting watchdog, calling the announcement of her move by Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson “100 percent false information.”

The backtracking on Suzanne Israel Tufts’s move drew widespread scrutiny, raising questions about how and why she was supposedly chosen to lead Interior’s inspector general’s office, which is conducting at least four investigations into Zinke’s activities. Last week, investigators issued two subpoenas for documents to entities tied to the probes, according to two individuals familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

Top White House officials said Thursday that they had not been made aware of the plan to move Tufts to serve as acting inspector general at Interior. She is a lawyer from Queens who worked on President Trump’s campaign and has served as HUD’s assistant secretary for administration since December.

“Ms. Tufts is not employed by the Department and no decision was ever made to move her to Interior,” Swift said in a statement Thursday.

And in a striking public rebuke of another Cabinet agency led by a close friend of Zinke’s, Swift wrote that HUD “sent out an email that had 100 percent false information in it.” She affirmed that Deputy Inspector General Mary Kendall, who has led the office for nine years, is still in the job.

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TedStriker  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:40:22pm

re: #17 Dizzy

In my ‘foggy’ youth, my friends and I used to go through several packages of girl-guide cookies after indulging. To a stoner they are heavenly.

Stoned or not, some GSUSA cookies are the bomb anytime; my fave:

Thin Mints are a type of cookie sold by the Girl Scouts of the USA. Thin Mints are the most popular Girl Scout Cookies.[40], the second in popularity being Samoas. About 50 million boxes of Thin Mints were sold in 2013 compared with 38 million boxes of Samoas. Thin Mints averages about 38 cookies per box and Samoas 15 cookies per box.[40]

Operation Thin Mint is a program by the Girl Scouts of the USA to provide military members with donated cookies.[41][42]

Keebler manufactures a similar cookie known as a Grasshopper, which is produced in the same factory as Little Brownie Bakers’s Thin Mints.[43]

That bolded bit is to emphasize that Thin Mints are available year-round ;-P

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Archangelus  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:45:00pm

re: #10 Dizzy

Meanwhile in Canada:

Nine-year-old sells out of Girl Guide cookies in front of cannabis store on first day

Pretty much the same tactic as the girl scout earlier this year in Colorado who sold more than 300 boxes in front of dispensaries in one day.
If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:46:42pm

re: #17 Dizzy

In my ‘foggy’ youth, my friends and I used to go through several packages of girl-guide cookies after indulging. To a stoner they are heavenly.

In my foggy present I could really go for some Thin Mints.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:47:26pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:47:44pm

re: #21 TedStriker

Stoned or not, some GSUSA cookies are the bomb anytime; my fave:

That bolded bit is to emphasize that Thin Mints are available year-round ;-P

I’m going to need to forget that information, or I’ll be gaining some weight,

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Archangelus  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:51:06pm

Been seeing a lot of exchanges concerning the Khashoggi murder over his status as a US resident, and what caught my attention is that many people seem to miss a prominent point. The distinction surrounding his or another person’s status as a US citizen or resident is essentially an internal matter that’s simply irrelevant in the eyes of people and elements in most of the countries abroad. As far as the Saudis were concerned, he was categorized among other things as “Amrikun”- American. Not resident, not citizen, simply American. Just like anyone and everyone in the US.
As such, due to either staggering incompetence or stemming from some form of quid pro quo, the Trump administration basically signaled to the world of its new bar for what foreign elements can do to Americans of all kinds without facing consequences.
Per the Trump administration, it’s not duck season or rabbit season now - it’s American Season…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:51:07pm

re: #21 TedStriker

Stoned or not, some GSUSA cookies are the bomb anytime; my fave:

That bolded bit is to emphasize that Thin Mints are available year-round ;-P

Same deal with Samoas and Keebler Coconut Dreams apparently.
dallasobserver.com

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2018 • 6:53:47pm

re: #21 TedStriker

Stoned or not, some GSUSA cookies are the bomb anytime; my fave:

Thin Mints are a type of cookie sold by the Girl Scouts of the USA. Thin Mints are the most popular Girl Scout Cookies.[40], the second in popularity being Samoas. About 50 million boxes of Thin Mints were sold in 2013 compared with 38 million boxes of Samoas. Thin Mints averages about 38 cookies per box and Samoas 15 cookies per box.[40]

Operation Thin Mint is a program by the Girl Scouts of the USA to provide military members with donated cookies.[41][42]

Keebler manufactures a similar cookie known as a Grasshopper, which is produced in the same factory as Little Brownie Bakers’s Thin Mints.[43]

I see them in the store, and I prefer to give my money to Girl Scouts.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:08:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:09:20pm

I’m so sick of this fucker and his cult.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:10:09pm
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Archangelus  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:11:43pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

I’m so sick of this fucker and his cult.

You’re not alone, not by a freaking long shot.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:13:53pm

re: #32 Archangelus

You’re not alone, not by a freaking long shot.

I know. It’s not going to end pretty. Hopefully with him dying in a jail cell.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:18:32pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:19:48pm

re: #24 Ace-o-aces


@ddale8
Trump: “I had heard that he bodyslammed a reporter. And he was way up…and I said…I said oh this is terrible he’s gonna lose…then I said wait a minute, I know Montana pretty well, I think it might help him. And it did.”

8:08 PM - Oct 18, 2018

Of course that’s not what happened — most residents had already voted before the assault occurred. At the time, there were media reports that some voters had queried about changing their vote but that wasn’t an available option. That is often the difficulty with voting early — it cannot reflect important information revealed at a later point but before the final date.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:20:36pm

re: #34 goddamnedfrank

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Exactly Trump doesn’t respect the idea of a free press and authoritarians like MBS know this.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:21:06pm

Dad, the Twitter embeds are acting weird!

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:23:02pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

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Reminder that the Trump base has ALWAYS advocated violence against the media.

Only a matter of time before they start acting on their fantasies
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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:23:58pm

I’m sorry but there’s nothing about Trump that suggests he has any respect at all for our founding principles. He’s a fascist pig and his supporters and enablers who do know are worse.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:24:32pm

re: #38 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Reminder that the Trump base has ALWAYS advocated violence against the media.

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Except journalists like Hannity who suck Trump off.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:28:09pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

Except journalists like Hannity who suck Trump off.

Hannity is not and has never been a journalist.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:29:38pm

They cheer this shit and the very press Trump encourages violence against tells us it’s our fault for “looking down” on them. No, it’s not my fault that the right is full of people who worship Trump and don’t understand the Bill of Rights beyond guns.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:29:51pm

re: #41 The Vicious Babushka

Hannity is not and has never been a journalist.

True true

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:30:49pm
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Sufficient unto the day...  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:31:30pm

“You’ll never go in the water again”

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:32:33pm
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Archangelus  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:36:45pm

re: #45 Sufficient unto the day…

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“You’ll never go in the water again”

“The Return of the Great Adventure” (Raiders of the Lost Ark).
Substitute “Great” for “Insanely Chaotic” and I guess that works for my life’s story… /

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:39:48pm

re: #44 Single-handed sailor

I remember, and people point out, that after Gianforte did that to the reporter, there were Montanans trying to see if they could change their mail-in vote. So, no, not all of Montana was happy with it.

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ckkatz  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:42:29pm

Journalist retweeted by Chris Hayes says he spoke to the Caravan folks in the”Gaetz” video. Confirms that it was in the town of Chiquimula, Guatemala. Says the money distributed came from local merchants pooling their funds to help the impoverished people of the caravan. Another poster mentions that the bills shown in the video are 50 quetzal notes. There are also some comments on what Gaetz wrote.

banknotes.com

edit - misspelled quetzal

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Kilroy was here  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:45:10pm

Here is hoping the backlash will remind sane Montanans who to vote for..
It isn’t a hopeless cause either

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:49:58pm
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Interesting Times  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:54:03pm

re: #50 Kilroy was here

Here is hoping the backlash will remind sane Montanans who to vote for..
It isn’t a hopeless cause either

On a similar note…

Look what Taylor Swift made those polls do!

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:55:14pm

re: #38 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

What the fuck are they laughing at?

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Interesting Times  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:56:43pm

I can’t believe none of us thought of this:

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:56:51pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2018 • 7:58:42pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:04:51pm
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Belafon  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:05:47pm

re: #56 teleskiguy

My parents showed us that movie and the sequel. I was thinking this morning, when the discussion was going on about how Kristen Bell wasn’t showing her daughter some of the older Disney movies while she’s young, and it got me thinking about movies I haven’t shown my kids. That’s one of them. Revenge of the Nerds is another, even though - and probably because - the few things I remember from them were really funny. I won’t be showing them those movies. I also wait a bit before showing them Rocky Horror, around 15, because I want them to understand everything that’s going on.

Edited

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:07:51pm

re: #51 Single-handed sailor

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:08:22pm

Mine was Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid: “Just for the fun of it.” It was the number one movie from September 28th until December 14th.

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retired cynic  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:13:10pm

The Treasure of The Sierra Madre

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:13:50pm
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Archangelus  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:14:03pm

“I’ll take ‘A Good Start’ for $500, Alex…”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:17:45pm

He’s doing this as he works to let the Saudis get away with an atrocity. This is vile.
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ObserverArt  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:20:00pm

I made a comment about Steve Schmidt earlier. I hope I did the video right and it starts at the 37:40 mark, which is right before the comments Steve makes that gave me the reason to make the post in the last thread.

I think it is just a little disingenuous to make Trump so much a Democratic party allowance.

He is saying the Democrats haven’t framed the problem that Trump presents.

No one has been able to for many a reason. How many protests does Steve and Nicole need? How many people arrested in the halls of Congress?

How many times will any Democrat that mentioned Trump corruption, etc. be told it is all politics by the media?

The Republicans then say the Democrats are a mob and the media ponders why there is not more cooperation and both sides need to stop all this partisanship.

Yeah, the Democrats are timid. Anyone want to address why? Look around. Maybe a little help instead of blaming the only entity that can stop Trump, the Democrats.

I want Steve to help as much as some of the comments in the last thread want Steve and Nicole to help.

I don’t think some of what they were saying helps.

By the way…this is the whole show from this evening if you want to drag back and listen to any of Schmidt’s other comments.

I don’t doubt he understands the big issue. I believe he has hasn’t connected his part in it of how the Republicans have been heading this way before Trump. Let’s talk about that Steve, and then I will believe you understand.

The Democrats did not create Trump, lets never forget that.

Deadline White House 4PM 10/18/18 FULL| Nicolle Wallace MSNBC NEWS TODAY Oct 18, 2018 ✫

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:20:24pm

re: #63 Archangelus

“I’ll take ‘A Good Start’ for $500, Alex…”

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To be cynical, it was either going to be the Proud Boys or the cops. And it isn’t going to be the cops.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:26:00pm

No Bible Belt secularist will be surprised by this:

Religious conservatives lead the nation in search for porn

Religious conservatives lead the nation in search for pornReligious conservatives in the Bible Belt search for online porn more than anyone else according to a new study published earlier this month.

The new study, published in the journal Archives of Sexual Behavior and produced by researchers from Canadian Universities, found that American states with more religious conservatives search more for sexual content on Google.

Researchers used Google Trends to analyze porn searches while linking state level information from Gallup polls asking about religious and political attitudes together with a variety of sex and porn-related search terms.

The following is an excerpt from the study’s Abstract:

(researchers) examined associations between state-level religiosity/conservatism and anonymized interest in searching for sexual content online using Google Trends (which calculates within-state search volumes for search terms). Across two separate years, and controlling for demographic variables, we observed moderate-to-large positive associations between: (1) greater proportions of state-level religiosity and general web searching for sexual content and (2) greater proportions of state-level conservatism and image-specific searching for sex.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:28:50pm

It can happen here (in America).

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:28:59pm

Muh ballot came in the mail today. Every office seeker with a ‘D’ next to their name got my vote. Still need to read up on ballot initiatives (it’s a pretty big ballot this year).

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ObserverArt  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:30:13pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

Muh ballot came in the mail today. Every office seeker with a ‘D’ next to their name got my vote. Still need to read up on ballot initiatives (it’s a pretty big ballot this year).

Mine is laying here next to my keyboards. I am getting it in the mail this weekend.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:30:33pm

re: #68 DodgerFan1988

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It can happen here (in America).

It has happened here.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:31:01pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

Muh ballot came in the mail today. Every office seeker with a ‘D’ next to their name got my vote. Still need to read up on ballot initiatives (it’s a pretty big ballot this year).

Yeah I’m voting a straight ticket too.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:31:31pm

re: #68 DodgerFan1988

Of course it can. Rush was “asking the questions that needed to be asked” today.

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:31:52pm

Jesus Fucking Christ.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:32:22pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

Turn that orange motherfucker off, please.

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:33:43pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:35:30pm

re: #75 Ace Rothstein

No. Fucker needs to be monitored closely.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:36:31pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

Jesus Fucking Christ.

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Raise less corn and more hell!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:43:25pm

Well, I’m way late on this….

I got Ivanhoe:

“The Legends and Loves of the Greatest Knight of Them All!”

So I got that goin’ for me.

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danarchy  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:44:02pm

Red Sox going back to the World Series.

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BeachDem  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:46:36pm

Annnnddd, the team with the best record in MLB is going to the World Series.

So to all the Boston haters, I simply say: too bad, so sad. Go Bosox!

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:47:17pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:48:10pm

re: #81 BeachDem

Annnnddd, the team with the best record in MLB is going to the World Series.

So to all the Boston haters, I simply say: too bad, so sad. Go Bosox!

I’m just a lowly Cleveland fan. Their recent run might be over. Lots of free agency coming up.

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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:48:41pm

re: #80 danarchy

Red Sox going back to the World Series.

To get beat by the Brewers?

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:49:16pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

It has happened here.

You’re right. I forgot about the Right Wing Smear Machine’s whisper campaigns against Trayvon Martin, Tamir Rice, Laquan McDonald, Renisha McBride, Philandro Castile, Walter Scott, Jordan Edwards, and other murdered African-Americans.

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ObserverArt  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:49:54pm

re: #84 William Lewis

To get beat by the Brewers?

More likely to be The Dodgers.

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Interesting Times  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:54:20pm

😂

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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:56:03pm

re: #86 ObserverArt

More likely to be The Dodgers.

All the Brewers need to do is open the roof and let the 33 degree F Wisconsin air in :D

(yes, you’re probably right but still, even though I’m not a baseball fan unless in need of treatment for insomnia, it would be fun to see them finally recover from the damage done by the Selig incompetency.)

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:56:30pm

re: #79 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m so screwed on that one. Disney Pollyanna.

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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:56:37pm

re: #87 Interesting Times

😂

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That one is a great reminder that every good pun is it’s own reword…

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makeitstop  Oct 18, 2018 • 8:57:09pm

‘The boldest book of our time - honestly, fearlessly on the screen!’

From Here to Eternity

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 18, 2018 • 9:00:22pm

re: #67 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

No Bible Belt secularist will be surprised by this:

Religious conservatives lead the nation in search for porn

Who the hell uses Google to search for porn? There are any number of specific porn search engines that would do a much better job.

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Brian J.  Oct 18, 2018 • 9:04:20pm

re: #79 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, I’m way late on this….

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I got Ivanhoe:

“The Legends and Loves of the Greatest Knight of Them All!”

So I got that goin’ for me.

“At last, a film that shows kids as they really are.”

The Bad News Bears. Not bad.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 18, 2018 • 9:13:38pm

re: #45 Sufficient unto the day…

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“You’ll never go in the water again”

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plansbandc  Oct 18, 2018 • 9:16:22pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

I can’t really even properly describe my loathing.

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Sea Mexican!  Oct 18, 2018 • 9:17:06pm

re: #94 Joe Bacon 🌹

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The battle continues …

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plansbandc  Oct 18, 2018 • 9:18:16pm

re: #45 Sufficient unto the day…

The Most WONDERFUL Entertainment EVER! EVER!

heh!

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sagehen  Oct 18, 2018 • 9:22:41pm

re: #45 Sufficient unto the day…

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“You’ll never go in the water again”

Elmer Gantry

“If there was a dollar to be made - Gantry would make it…”

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wheat-dogg  Oct 18, 2018 • 9:29:39pm

I’ve been resisting that movie/birthday thing all morning, but dang it, y’all made me do it.

Truth is, I know only one other Sheree, and she was a student of mine in Louisville. She’s probably in her 40s now.

I should look her up.
;-)

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ckkatz  Oct 18, 2018 • 9:38:25pm

re: #65 ObserverArt

Sorry, I wanted to respond earlier to your very good points. But my mouse was freezing. After multiple reboots and reloading of the software, it appears that problem was… a dying battery in the mouse. <*sigh*> I guess that I am truly a software guy.

Thank you for posting this, btw!

Disclaimer - As always ymmv.

You did correctly set the video to 37:40.

I agree that Schmidt did argue that the Democrats are not framing the question correctly. Rick Wilson has the same criticism, by the way.

I think this is because the Republicans right now are functioning in a highly centralized and disciplined fashion. And that is how Schmidt, as a former operative, is used to working. Plus, I would suspect that he is drumming up business for his consulting firm, by presenting what he can offer.

I also agree that the Democrats are currently operating on an ad hoc, decentralized fashion. I suspect that this is for a lot of reasons including the following:

- Trump truely upended the political landscape. The Dems are still learning this new political landscape.
- The Dems also have a lot of new and inexperienced candidates.
- The Dems lost a lot of visibility when they lost both the Presidency and Congress. We will need to regain some power to get the MSM to listen to them.

I agree that, as you point out, many of the initiatives are beginning to be effective. But it will take time to crawl out of the hole we are finding ourselves.

Then there is the question of centralized versus de-centralized. The Republicans as a centralized organization are marching in lockstep to Trump. That might be effective in the short-term, but where is he leading them? As Will Rogers is reputed to have said “I don’t belong to an organized party. I’m a Democrat”.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 18, 2018 • 9:55:55pm

Here’s my entry:

Also movie related, there’s a new seasonal scary tale on Netflix that I really enjoyed. It has suspense and terror, laughs and tears, pratfalls and torment. It has it all!! ;)

ERREMENTARI: THE BLACKSMITH AND THE DEVIL (EL HERRERO Y EL DIABLO)

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makeitstop  Oct 18, 2018 • 10:00:24pm

re: #101 Amory Blaine

Here’s my entry:

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Also movie related, there’s a new seasonal scary tale on Netflix that I really enjoyed. It has suspense and terror, laughs and tears, pratfalls and torment. It has it all!! ;)

ERREMENTARI: THE BLACKSMITH AND THE DEVIL (EL HERRERO Y EL DIABLO)

Carrie Snodgress was married to Neil Young for a time.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 18, 2018 • 10:03:43pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 18, 2018 • 10:12:39pm

re: #103 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Don’t ask me why they have the video from two days ago in the tweet from today.

Félicette, first cat in space

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mmmirele  Oct 18, 2018 • 10:34:19pm

Well. The most popular movie when I was born was Alfred Hitchcock’s “Psycho,” which was released three days before I was born.

i don’t know if that says anything about ME…

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 18, 2018 • 10:34:36pm
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meteor  Oct 18, 2018 • 10:38:52pm
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piratedan  Oct 18, 2018 • 10:41:52pm

re: #105 mmmirele

for me it was 101 Dalmatians…. so go figure :-)

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2018 • 10:47:54pm
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sagehen  Oct 18, 2018 • 10:50:17pm

re: #103 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

On This Day in Space! Félicette Becomes the 1st Cat in Space!

Which totally screwed up everybody’s research, because cats have never been subject to the law of gravity…

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 18, 2018 • 10:54:10pm

Looks like we got ourselves a convoy.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 18, 2018 • 10:58:33pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2018 • 11:01:14pm
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austin_blue  Oct 18, 2018 • 11:05:27pm

Good Dog I’m stuck with The Ten Commandments. “Moses, Moses!” Anne Baxter with Cadillac Bumper Bullets for tits, and Yul Brenner, (Jewish) fighting Charlton Heston (not even close to Jewish) to let his people free.

It’s just embarrassing.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 18, 2018 • 11:08:06pm
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austin_blue  Oct 18, 2018 • 11:08:30pm

re: #113 teleskiguy

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During the interrogation, he just went to pieces.

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freetoken  Oct 18, 2018 • 11:10:02pm

re: #89 Unshaken Defiance

I was born on a Thursday, and way back then I don’t think movies in the US were released until Friday.

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freetoken  Oct 18, 2018 • 11:12:48pm

re: #114 austin_blue

Where are you finding release dates?

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austin_blue  Oct 18, 2018 • 11:19:03pm

re: #115 DodgerFan1988

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Keep in mind that there are two very different black populations in NO. There are black Protestants, who have always been marginalized, and mixed race blacks often referred to as Creoles, mostly Catholic, who have been solidly entrenched in the middle class for centuries (Xavier University is the largest “black” Catholic University in the country). I don’t know who the Proud Boys will target, but if they go after the Creoles they are going to be terribly disappointed. They will get their asses kicked from the Treme to the Quarter.

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austin_blue  Oct 18, 2018 • 11:22:40pm

re: #118 freetoken

Where are you finding release dates?

google.com

Type in your birth year. Prepare to cringe.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 18, 2018 • 11:29:10pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2018 • 11:29:51pm

re: #56 teleskiguy

E.T. came out about five weeks later. Darn!

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mmmirele  Oct 18, 2018 • 11:31:50pm

I’m still going with Psycho, because it was released just days before I was born.

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2018 • 11:33:42pm

re: #123 mmmirele

I’m still going with Psycho, because it was released just days before I was born.

That was back in the day when they wouldn’t let cinema patrons into the theater after the film had started, at Alfred Hitchcock’s request.

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freetoken  Oct 18, 2018 • 11:34:47pm

re: #120 austin_blue

Well the top movie in the US on my day of birth, not released but number one at the theatre was… a Disney flick. For the year it was not a Disney movie.

Note the tagline for the top movie on the day of my birth had many taglines, according to IMDB. Hard to pick one, they all seem so lame. And when Disney re-released the film they change the tagline.

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austin_blue  Oct 18, 2018 • 11:41:57pm

And I’m off to the rack. Sweet scaly dreams, dear Lizards.

We are getting kitchen wallpaper installed tomorrow! Our house was built in 1950, and we are installing period paper. The company that makes it did the wallpaper in the living areas of The Shape of Water. The guy who is doing the install has a one-man company called “Hang ‘em High!”

Just way too Austin.

Oh, and Formula One is coming to town this weekend. Man-buns, skinny jeans, “We will dance now”, euro-trash, it’s all bigly. I’m hunkering down.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 18, 2018 • 11:42:50pm

re: #125 freetoken

Well the top movie in the US on my day of birth, not released but number one at the theatre was… a Disney flick. For the year it was not a Disney movie.

Note the tagline for the top movie on the day of my birth had many taglines, according to IMDB. Hard to pick one, they all seem so lame. And when Disney re-released the film they change the tagline.

Same here. In my case “Pollyanna.”
playback.fm
I hope it says more about me than the year’s number one film, “Psycho.”

Pollyanna (1960) Disney Home Video Australia Trailer

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 18, 2018 • 11:45:13pm

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹

Same here. In my case “Pollyanna.”
playback.fm
I hope it says more about me than the year’s number one film, “Psycho.”

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I liked Juliet much more than Hayley. Fight me!

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2018 • 11:49:26pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 18, 2018 • 11:54:22pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Wow. Trump is off the hook tonight.

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Gianforte is favored in his race, but his opponent, Kathleen Williams, has a real chance of winning. Let’s hope there are enough Montanans who aren’t fascists.

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:01:35am
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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:02:53am
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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:07:45am

Dude. Whoa.

UHD Orbits of Saturn

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:10:27am

re: #129 teleskiguy

A *deep dive* into Homer Simpson’s skiing technique (I’m not kidding).

That’s nothing:

The Simpsons and Their Mathematical Secrets

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:12:42am
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:13:26am

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Yeah I’m voting a straight ticket too.

I’ll never vote for a Republican again.

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ckkatz  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:19:18am

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

Somebody pointed out that it appears to still have the price tag on the trigger guard.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:22:38am

“A Mighty Spectacle of Action and Adventure!” Lawrence of Arabia, which doesn’t describe my life in the slightest.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:28:36am
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Single-handed sailor  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:31:24am

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

Did they tattoo those eyebrows on her?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:41:58am

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

LOL

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:43:02am

I’m giving genuine thought to writing a guidebook for staying at hotels from the perspective of a hotel employee. Because I quite honestly think that’s something we need in 21st century America: A book to convey to the legions of gobshites who travel that their stays will go a lot better if they don’t act like total morons. Mostly because it seems like at least once a week, I encounter a situation that would not have been a situation had the other party done something that demonstrated evidence of an IQ higher than room temp.

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:50:35am

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

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Kaitlin keeps acting in a fashion that, were she of the opposite political persuasion, would lead to wingnuts calling her a “feminazi” and making crude suggestions that the reason she acts like this is because she can’t find a man.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:52:48am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:59:42am

If we’re going for Billboard Hot 100 top songs, on my birthday I weigh in with “Cathy’s Clown.”

Could have been predictive, since my wife long went by her middle nickname “Kathy.”

Everly Brothers - Cathy’s Clown (1960)

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2018 • 1:02:30am

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

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Not to get all conspiracy minded but almost immediately after I sent that tweet it looks like Twitter hit me with the quality filter. So now this tweet …

… which was doing pretty well, suddenly doesn’t show up in the results when you click on the tweet from @thedad that it’s a reply to. My guess is that I got reported by some of Kaitlin’s nutjob followers for making fun of her and this was the automated response.

Lesson learned, again, only verified users can afford to engage with the crazies.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 1:10:30am

re: #146 goddamnedfrank

Not to get all conspiracy minded but almost immediately after I sent that tweet it looks like Twitter hit me with the quality filter. So now this tweet …

… which was doing pretty well, suddenly doesn’t show up in the results when you click on the tweet from @thedad that it’s a reply to. My guess is that I got reported by some of Kaitlin’s nutjob followers for making fun of her and this was the automated response.

Lesson learned, again, only verified users can afford to engage with the crazies.

Clicking on his original tweet, I only see about ten or twelve tweets in response total, so it’s not just you apparently.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 1:28:37am

The so-called “Firefighter Prophet” Mark Taylor claimed leftist chemtrails caused California’s wildfires. He also claimed there was some sort of conspiracy why firefighters didn’t fight fires and instead evacuated people (duh, something something a real firefighter would know why).

(7:26, Utah Outcasts, caution for coarse language):

Mark Taylor Blames California Wildfires on Leftist Chemtrails

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 1:41:43am
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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2018 • 2:07:51am
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LastYearsMan  Oct 19, 2018 • 2:16:55am

“He Rode The Fast Lane On The Road To Nowhere.”
- 5 Easy Pieces

… Hrm … A little too on-the-nose.

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2018 • 2:18:27am

re: #151 LastYearsMan

I’ve never seen that film, and yet I know all about the ordering coffee and toast scene. Weird that.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2018 • 2:43:30am

re: #148 Anymouse 🌹

The so-called “Firefighter Prophet” Mark Taylor claimed leftist chemtrails caused California’s wildfires. He also claimed there was some sort of conspiracy why firefighters didn’t fight fires and instead evacuated people (duh, something something a real firefighter would know why).

(7:26, Utah Outcasts, caution for coarse language):

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Always sad to see an example of untreated mental illness.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2018 • 2:47:13am

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹

Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Linux San Francisco wgah’nagl fhtagn! Iä! Iä!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 3:32:53am

An organisation called “Data for Progress” is working on fundraising to try to flip eight vulnerable GOP state legislatures.

Not a big fan of The Intercept, but they have an article on this project.

Noting one race where they raised enough money for the candidate to hire canvassers in Minnesota:

For [Kristen] Bahner, the money couldn’t have come at a better time. “Candidly, in some measure, it sort of restored my faith in humanity and democracy,” she said, describing a disturbing experience she had just this past Sunday while out door-knocking.

A man was mowing his lawn, she said, and even though he wasn’t on her list, she stopped to talk to him. He shut her down immediately, saying that if she wasn’t a Republican, he didn’t want to hear from her.

Bahner has had success persuading Republicans to support her, she said, so she asked if he would just be willing to hear her out.

“Nope, you got two strikes against ya,” he told her.

“Yeah, what is that?” Bahner said she asked him.

“Have you looked in the mirror lately? First, you’re a Democrat, and second, you’re a woman, and there ain’t no fixin’ that,” the man told her. [bold mine]

Bahner was stunned by “the sheer rawness of what he had to say,” she recalled.

(more: theintercept.com)

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2018 • 3:52:09am

No.

Just no.

Is Donald Trump considering appointing former Republican Congresswoman and failed presidential candidate Michele Bachmann as the new United Nations ambassador? If the religious right has their way, he will.

Former UN ambassador Nikki Haley abruptly resigned shortly after ethics complaints were lodged against her. Her resignation means the alleged violations will never be investigated.

Bachmann, best known for her outlandish conspiracy theories and anti-LGBTQ activism, has about as much respect on the world stage as Donald Trump. Nicknamed “Crazy Eyes” after a photo of her on the cover of TIME Magazine showed her in mid-froth, Bachmann has about as much respect for civil rights and the truth as Trump.

So, of course, modern-day evangelical leaders are pushing her forward.

lgbtqnation.com

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2018 • 3:52:20am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 4:01:11am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2018 • 4:05:05am

re: #158 Anymouse 🌹

Still a thing …

Catholic Exorcist Holding Special Mass to Counter Witches’ Hex on Kavanaugh (Newsweek)

“Your mother sews socks that smell” (SNL reference)

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 4:06:24am

Economic Development Secretary resigns from Scott Walker administration and $208,000 job, slamming Walker for only promoting policies that increase national spotlight on Walker and then endorsing Democratic opponent for Governor.

Fourth former Scott Walker secretary comes forward to criticize governor (Wisconsin State-Journal)

On Thursday, Jadin released to the Wisconsin State Journal an open letter, co-signed by former Corrections Secretary Ed Wall and former Financial Institutions Secretary Peter Bildsten, slamming Walker and endorsing Walker’s Democratic opponent, state Superintendent Tony Evers. Both Wall and Bildsten have recorded videos for Evers’ campaign.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2018 • 4:15:45am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2018 • 4:25:11am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest’s fingers, arms, head, torso….”

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wheat-dogg  Oct 19, 2018 • 4:26:24am

re: #162 Barefoot Grin

Summon the Royal Bone Sawyer!!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 4:54:19am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Will no one did me of this meddlesome journalist?”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 4:54:57am

re: #162 Barefoot Grin

“Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest’s fingers, arms, head, torso….”

I swear I didn’t see you reference Becket first :)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 4:55:53am

re: #156 Dr Lizardo

No.

Just no.

lgbtqnation.com

And I found a choice that would be worse than Ivanka.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 4:58:14am

Russian hackers target Beto, Cruz and Manu (News 4 San Antonio, more at the link).

Russian trolls have attempted to influence the Senate race between incumbent Senator Ted Cruz and his opponent, U.S. Representative Robert “Beto” O’Rourke, using fake Twitter accounts.

We discovered the tweets in a recently-released database of three million tweets associated with Russian trolling, which targeted Cruz as well as many of the state’s other congressional leaders.

Dr. Aaron Delwiche, a Trinity University social communications professor, says the messages are designed to look like they came from real people, but were instead part of a larger campaign from a foreign country injecting its voice in American affairs and politics.

“They’re based in St. Petersburg, headed by someone with close ties to Putin, and they have been engaging in acts of information warfare since 2014,” said Delwiche.

Cruz was blasted with what appeared to be tweets from left-leaning activists, but were instead Russian trolls, going by names like “KANIJJACKSON,” “HOUSTONTOPNEWS” and “LBGTUNITEDCOM.” The Russian Twitter accounts were discovered and shut down just as the Cruz vs. O’Rourke race was amping up.

The most recent tweets mentioning Cruz and O’Rourke were sent to nearly 140,000 followers, but the bulk of the tweets mentioning Cruz date back to his presidential bid.

The television station notes in the article that a single troll might control twenty or more accounts, appearing to be supporters of all sorts of different candidates left and right.

The San Antonio Spurs star was mentioned on some of the accounts going back before the race heated up, to lend those accounts legitimacy.

Veterans organisations were also targeted, claiming violence against veterans by Black Lives Matter activists.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2018 • 4:58:23am

re: #166 HappyWarrior

And I found a choice that would be worse than Ivanka.

The fundie wackjobs would be over the moon if Bachmann were appointed.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 5:00:06am

re: #166 HappyWarrior

And I found a choice that would be worse than Ivanka.

Could have been one-L Michele Fiore, or two-R Sharron Angle.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 5:05:30am

re: #168 Dr Lizardo

The fundie wackjobs would be over the moon if Bachmann were appointed.

I know. That it’s seriously being considered is wow.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 5:06:00am

re: #169 Anymouse 🌹

Could have been one-L Michele Fiore, or two-R Sharron Angle.

Ha true.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2018 • 5:16:34am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2018 • 5:22:26am
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2018 • 5:26:02am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 5:29:46am

Conservative cognitive dissonance, how does it work?

Don’t tell them Saudis own a significant fraction of FOX News’s parent company’s stock either …

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2018 • 5:33:01am
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2018 • 5:34:33am

Jesus.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 5:38:56am

re: #177 goddamnedfrank

Jesus.

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If Grant could be arrested for speeding on his horse, no reason Trump can’t for incitement.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 5:39:20am

re: #175 Anymouse 🌹

Conservative cognitive dissonance, how does it work?

Don’t tell them Saudis own a significant fraction of FOX News’s parent company’s stock either …

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Because it’s all a big con.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 5:41:38am

They tell us we can’t get over it …

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2018 • 5:44:08am

re: #177 goddamnedfrank

Jesus.

“But I was just following orders!”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 5:44:52am

re: #180 Anymouse 🌹

They tell us we can’t get over it …

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Mitt didn’t have to go away. Why should she? She’s a citizen who frankly would be President if not for meddling. And no one is forcing you to listen to her.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2018 • 5:45:47am

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹

They’re worse. Their actual religion is BSD.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2018 • 5:48:23am

re: #131 teleskiguy

It’s not real if he doesn’t lose fingers.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 5:54:03am

Interestingly, from Trump’s word salad last night there doesn’t seem to be any press about his proposal to nominate an industrialist to the Supreme Court (rather than someone versed in law).

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 19, 2018 • 5:58:10am

Remember yesterday when I said I wasn’t going to argue or engage with idiots on FB?

I never said anything about Twitter.

so worth it

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 5:59:03am

Surprise, conservative voter suppression in Kansas:

Iconic Dodge City moves its only polling place outside town (AP):

Access to the ballot box in November will be more difficult for some people in Dodge City, where Hispanics now make up 60 percent of its population and have remade an iconic Wild West town that once was the destination of cowboys and buffalo hunters who frequented the Long Branch Saloon.

At a time when many rural towns are slowly dying, the arrival of two massive meatpacking plants boosted Dodge City’s economy and transformed its demographics as immigrants from Mexico and other countries flooded in to fill those jobs.

But the city located 160 miles (257 kilometers) west of Wichita has only one polling site for its 27,000 residents. Since 2002, the lone site was at the civic center just blocks from the local country club — in the wealthy, white part of town. For this November’s election, local officials have moved it outside the city limits to a facility more than a mile from the nearest bus stop, citing road construction that blocked the previous site.

(more)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:03:54am

Laura’s movie was The Dirty Dozen

Mine is “What a Glorious Feeling”…Singing in the Rain

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:08:01am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:09:41am

re: #158 Anymouse 🌹

Still a thing …

Catholic Exorcist Holding Special Mass to Counter Witches’ Hex on Kavanaugh (Newsweek)

Are we still not allowed to say “retarded”?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:09:42am

They trained him to kill for their pleasure…but they trained him a little too well. .

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:13:25am

re: #186 I Would Prefer Not To

Remember yesterday when I said I wasn’t going to argue or engage with idiots on FB?

I never said anything about Twitter.

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so worth it

He gets a lot of insane replies reinforcing his delusions, from people who lie to each other, desperately trying to prop up a propaganda-based worldview.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:13:46am

re: #191 I Would Prefer Not To

They trained him to kill for their pleasure…but they trained him a little too well. .

Someone predicted here a couple days ago the Saudi narrative would change to “overzealous interrogators.”

Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia’s lobbying money in the USA has tripled since Trump was elected:

time.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:15:01am

re: #192 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He gets a lot of insane replies reinforcing his delusions, from people who lie to each other, desperately trying to prop up a propaganda-based worldview.

You didn’t engage with his “Carter was the stupidest president” recon of Donald Trump though.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:19:23am

re: #194 Anymouse 🌹

You didn’t engage with his “Carter was the stupidest president” recon of Donald Trump though.

You can take on that part if you like. Carter is a great man, but his presidency is hard to defend.

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jeffreyw  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:21:50am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:22:38am

re: #195 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You can take on that part if you like. Carter is a great man, but his presidency is hard to defend.

I cannot, because I won’t sign up for Twitter’s libertarian paradise.

I don’t know what’s hard to defend about Carter’s presidency. I proudly voted for him in 1980 against the guy who opened his campaign on the site of slain Civil Rights workers only seven years before.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:26:50am

re: #196 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

kitteh found the catnip/catmint.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:33:49am

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

kitteh found the catnip/catmint.

An oldie but a goodie:

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:34:43am

Jimmy Carter’s Unheralded Legacy (New York Times)

Amongst other things, creating the Department of Education (and increased college grants for the needy), creating the Department of Energy, the Camp David Accords which led to the landmark peace treaty between Israel and Egypt, being the first President to make a vice-President a full informed partner in the White House, limiting arms sales to dictatorships (reversed by Reagan), promoted clean energy (reversed by Reagan, notably by ripping out the solar panels from the White House), returning the Panama Canal to local control (gaining respect for the USA from Latin America), promoting human rights around the world (reversed by Reagan and Trump).

Not too bad for four years.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:37:07am

Found my movie that was number one when I was born…

They’re young…they’re in love…and they kill people.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:41:32am

Revealed: Israel’s Cyber-spy Industry Aids World Dictators Hunt Dissidents and Gays (Haaretz)

Haaretz investigation spanning 100 sources in 15 countries reveals Israel has become a leading exporter of tools for spying on civilians. Dictators around the world - even in countries with no formal ties to Israel - use them eavesdrop on human rights activists, monitor emails, hack into apps and record conversations

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:43:55am
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Weaselone  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:44:13am

re: #192 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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He gets a lot of insane replies reinforcing his delusions, from people who lie to each other, desperately trying to prop up a propaganda-based worldview.

By Dinesh’s logic, Obama must also have been stupid because he increased US power and wealth.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:44:58am

re: #202 Anymouse 🌹

Revealed: Israel’s Cyber-spy Industry Aids World Dictators Hunt Dissidents and Gays (Haaretz)

Haaretz investigation spanning 100 sources in 15 countries reveals Israel has become a leading exporter of tools for spying on civilians. Dictators around the world - even in countries with no formal ties to Israel - use them eavesdrop on human rights activists, monitor emails, hack into apps and record conversations

Wait, what?

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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:47:02am

re: #199 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

An oldie but a goodie:

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Kitteh catnip den.

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Kilroy was here  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:48:02am

This is my movie

The screen commits the perfect comedy!

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:52:30am

re: #55 Single-handed sailor

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So this week the president has helped cover up the murder of one journalist and is now praising the assault of another journalist

And the band (Congress) played on….

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lizardofid  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:53:13am

Good morning!

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 6:54:41am

re: #62 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Can we really call this scumbag “president” as betrays everything that makes America great? Other descriptors are more relevant to the threat he poses. How about Traitor Trump, or Betrayer Trump? Complete piece of shit Trump

I’m happy with “Unindicted Co-conspirator” for now

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:06:53am

re: #68 DodgerFan1988

If you wondered how low right wing hacks could go, read about their sleazy smear campaign against a man who was tortured and cut to pieces while still alive because he championed reform in his Washington Post columns

It can happen here (in America).

it doesnt matter what his job was (to an extent)
it doesnt matter what his views, positions or politics were
it doesnt matter who he was or where he came from
it (almost) doesnt matter how brutal and grisly his murder was

he is/was a US resident (green card holder)
even the saudi’s saw him as an ‘american’
THAT is all that matters

Our government is being complicit in actively dismissing that a foreign country planned, then abducted and killed an American.

the rest is distraction

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:07:53am

So Facebook hired Nick Clegg to head their “global affairs”.

What does this say about Facebook?

What if Facebook are really in charge of “global affairs” (he asked conspiratorially…)??

Clegg was an anti-Brexit guy but still, with this hiring it is very obvious that the monster called Facebook is more in bed with politicians around the world than all those grandmas on Facebook who post pics of grandchildren have any clue about.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:09:17am

re: #79 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, I’m way late on this….

me too

The last word of the movie: “MADNESS!”

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:11:08am

re: #110 sagehen

Which totally screwed up everybody’s research, because cats have never been subject to the law of gravity…

buttered cat array paradox

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:12:37am
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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:14:43am

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Yeah I’m voting a straight ticket too.

i dont take sexual orientation into account ;-)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:16:09am

re: #216 dangerman

i dont take sexual orientation into account ;-)

I didn’t even know they put that on the ballot.

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jeffreyw  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:18:27am

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

kitteh found the catnip/catmint.

Yup, Mrs J planted some one year and we’ve had it ever since.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:21:04am

re: #182 HappyWarrior

Mitt didn’t have to go away. Why should she? She’s a citizen who frankly would be President if not for meddling. And no one is forcing you to listen to her.

(bernie)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:21:21am

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

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Robocop: Part Man, Part Machine. All cop. The future of law enforcement.

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:21:30am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:21:49am

re: #216 dangerman

i dont take sexual orientation into account ;-)

Well played sir.

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jeffreyw  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:26:11am

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:28:59am

re: #219 dangerman

(bernie)

and to reiterate
- bernie lost to hillary (40% to 60%)
- virtually no one is questioning that he could run for president all over again (except some of his previous staff actually are)
- as a dem, again
- while he’s not a dem, still and ever

but hillary, who beat him, and yes, then lost to trump, should shut up and never be heard from again

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:30:27am

re: #223 jeffreyw

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Wasnt “Twelve Angry Men” ‘a story of twelve men as their women never knew them…”?

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:30:29am

re: #221 freetoken

Just this paragraph:

For instance, we project that by the time they file their 12G reports later this month — the last filings due before the election — 144 Democrats on November House ballots will have raised at least $1 million in individual contributions, not counting self-funding or outside money. But we project just 84 Republicans will have done the same. We also project that 73 Democratic House candidates will have raised at least $2 million, as compared to just 17 Republicans.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:30:58am

re: #224 dangerman

and to reiterate
- bernie lost to hillary (40% to 60%)
- virtually no one is questioning that he could run for president all over again (except some of his previous staff actually are)
- as a dem, again
- while he’s not a dem, still and ever

but hillary, who beat him, and yes, then lost to trump, should shut up and never be heard from again

I don’t get how you can say new voices should be heard and at the same time say Bernie should be the nominee. Bernie is on his fifth President since being elected.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:33:34am

Saw in the Post that Trump’s right wing buddies are smearing Jamal Khashoggi. These fuckers are evil.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:36:07am

A ton of misogynistic conservaderp in response to this article and tweet:

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:37:24am

re: #227 HappyWarrior

I don’t get how you can say new voices should be heard and at the same time say Bernie should be the nominee. Bernie is on his fifth President since being elected.

electoral-vote.com

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) is clearly expecting to pick up right where he left off in 2016, and perhaps even to take things to the next level. Many of his former staffers, including some people who served in key positions (like chief of staff Michaeleen Earle) are not so sure that’s a good idea, and many of them say they are unlikely to sign up for another hitch.

there’s a list of his ‘problems’ over at ev

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:38:15am

re: #221 freetoken

Nate is concerned… that his model may go wonky:

Election Update: Democrats’ Unprecedented Fundraising Edge Is Scary For Republicans … And Our Model

All-in-all, if he really wants to drill down, he should look at how ads vs GOTV spending has worked in elections, and map that to the money now. We do know that there’s diminishing returns on ad spending (there are only so many commercials in a day), but, especially in a midterm, there’s a whole lot of people to get out to vote. For example, if Texas could get every Democrat that voted in the presidential year to vote now, we’d win a whole lot of races.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:38:49am

POS45 brags about a candidate who physically beat up a reporter & this delicate snowflake is all triggered that another reporter said a cuss word.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:38:52am

re: #228 HappyWarrior

Saw in the Post that Trump’s right wing buddies are smearing Jamal Khashoggi. These fuckers are evil.

Limbaugh was on it almost instantly.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:39:21am

re: #230 dangerman

electoral-vote.com

there’s a list of his ‘problems’ over at ev

All legitimate problems. Honestly my biggest one with him is that he just hasn’t shown me anything that suggests he’s a leader. The not being a Democrat, 80 in 2021, and other things are too but the biggest is his lack of real leadership qualities.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:39:56am

re: #233 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Limbaugh was on it almost instantly.

Of course he was.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:40:28am

I caught an ad from Beto this morning where he wants universal health care.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:40:56am

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

POS45 brags about a candidate who physically beat up a reporter & this delicate snowflake is all triggered that another reporter said a cuss word.

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Reminds me of the snowflakes crying about Beto O’Rourke’s language. Fuckers care more about curse words than the shit Trump does.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:42:24am

re: #237 HappyWarrior

Reminds me of the snowflakes crying about Beto O’Rourke’s language. Fuckers care more about curse words than the shit Trump does.

They always have. These rotten people will accept anything Republicans do, but if you say “fuck”, you’re a monster.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:43:53am

re: #238 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

They always have. These rotten people will accept anything Republicans do, but if you say “fuck”, you’re a monster.

Variation on sealioning.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:46:36am

re: #238 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

They always have. These rotten people will accept anything Republicans do, but if you say “fuck”, you’re a monster.

Yep. Force children under the age of 5 to represent themselves in immigration court but don’t you dare say fuck. God I hate these hypocritical shitbags.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:47:49am

Here’s some real history for you - old news reports from NYC, when the Son of Sam had the whole city on edge. It’s genuinely fascinating, especially for those Lizards who might be history buffs.

1977 SPECIAL REPORT: “SUMMER OF SAM”

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Sea Mexican!  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:48:13am

re: #190 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Are we still not allowed to say “retarded”?

Lewis Black was correct on his assessment. We don’t use the word “retarded” to describe people with mental disabilities; we use it to describe fully abled people who should know better.

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:49:22am

re: #10 Dizzy

Meanwhile in Canada:

Nine-year-old sells out of Girl Guide cookies in front of cannabis store on first day

A future marketing genius!

If you’ve ever had Girl Guide cookies, that is quite the feat, no matter how badly you have the munchies. Those cookies are absolutely terrible.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:50:47am

re: #243 MsJ

A future marketing genius!

If you’ve ever had Girl Guide cookies, that is quite the feat, no matter how badly you have the munchies. Those cookies are absolutely terrible.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:51:51am

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

POS45 brags about a candidate who physically beat up a reporter & this delicate snowflake is all triggered that another reporter said a cuss word.

Not just that delicate snowflake, but scores of other delicate snowflakes in the comments.

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:55:36am

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

Epshteyn works for Trump, and Sinclair, which are sort of the same thing.

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Dizzy  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:55:46am

re: #243 MsJ

A future marketing genius!

If you’ve ever had Girl Guide cookies, that is quite the feat, no matter how badly you have the munchies. Those cookies are absolutely terrible.

I respectfully disagree! The sugar and cream overdose is a perfect chaser for a joint hit.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:56:27am
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:56:46am

re: #45 Sufficient unto the day…

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“You’ll never go in the water again”

I can’t find a tagline, but mine was West Side Story

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KGxvi  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:57:44am

re: #230 dangerman

electoral-vote.com

there’s a list of his ‘problems’ over at ev

This is his true problem, ultimately:

He’s not running against Clinton any more, and so cannot carry the sizable anti-Clinton banner.

He gained ground because he was the “only” alternative to Clinton last cycle. A challenger like that almost always does better than expected when there is a candidate who is perceived as “clearing the field.” That’s how McCain did well in 2000, it’s Obama’s win in 2008 started. About the only recent example I can think of when this didn’t happen was on the Democratic side in 2000.

In a field of many interesting/intriguing candidates, Bernie is going to quickly find himself on that second or third tier where nobody really cares what he has to say by the time the Iowa State Fair rolls around.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:58:26am

re: #244 Scottish Dragon

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 7:59:02am

re: #244 Scottish Dragon

As I saw your post, I was flipping through new Steam VR games on my phone, and happened on The Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth. It’s for regular PC or VR.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:00:13am

Breaking news: Yuimetal has left Babymetal! (according to my asahi . com source)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:04:07am

re: #248 Scottish Dragon

He’s so dumb, he didn’t even understand that he’s been dumped!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:05:19am

Why do people find Peterson compelling ? He’s an obnoxious self righteous boob.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:06:53am

re: #255 HappyWarrior

Why do people find Peterson compelling ? He’s an obnoxious self righteous boob.

They identify with him.

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gwangung  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:07:18am

re: #255 HappyWarrior

Why do people find Peterson compelling ? He’s an obnoxious self righteous boob.

Awful lot of obnoxious self righteous boobs out there. Like are drawn to like.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:08:06am

re: #248 Scottish Dragon

LOL. Perhaps it was the “lobster energy” that repelled her.

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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:09:31am

re: #212 freetoken

So Facebook hired Nick Clegg to head their “global affairs”.

What does this say about Facebook?

What if Facebook are really in charge of “global affairs” (he asked conspiratorially…)??

Clegg was an anti-Brexit guy but still, with this hiring it is very obvious that the monster called Facebook is more in bed with politicians around the world than all those grandmas on Facebook who post pics of grandchildren have any clue about.

Just like Zuckerberg wanted all along. Power and money. Politics.

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jeffreyw  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:09:37am

re: #225 dangerman

Wasnt “Twelve Angry Men” ‘a story of twelve men as their women never knew them…”?

They knew them as what they were but they held their tongues, as was the style at that time.
//

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:09:52am

re: #252 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

As I saw your post, I was flipping through new Steam VR games on my phone, and happened on The Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth. It’s for regular PC or VR.

I haven’t gotten that far in the books yet.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:11:23am

Sigh…

Neyla Pekarek, a member of the Lumineers, has exited the band, Variety has confirmed. She will pursue a solo career and has completed a concept album inspired by Katherine McHale, known as Rattlesnake Kate, a legend of the band’s home state of Colorado, who killed 140 rattlesnakes while protecting her infant son. According to an interview with Pekarek published over the summer, the cellist sees McHale as a feminist icon and hopes to work on a musical based on her story. The album will be released by S-Curve in 2019.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:15:11am

re: #248 Scottish Dragon

The original post at Reddit:

reddit.com

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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:17:34am

re: #227 HappyWarrior

I don’t get how you can say new voices should be heard and at the same time say Bernie should be the nominee. Bernie is on his fifth President since being elected.

They aren’t considering age and length in politics.

The thinking seems to be Democrats have stayed the same and all they talk about are social issues.

Bernie is “fresh and new” because he is talking about jobs, cost of college, universal healthcare, etc.

Stuff Clinton talked about back in 1992. Which I guess makes that old…or, something.

I still remember BeachDem pointing out Charles Pierce of Esquire calling Politico “the Tiger Beat on the Potomac”…which is really too good a designation for them.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:17:56am

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

POS45 brags about a candidate who physically beat up a reporter & this delicate snowflake is all triggered that another reporter said a cuss word.

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I’m confused. Why do they object? Is it because a non-Trump person appropriated the word?

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:20:02am

re: #263 Anymouse 🌹

The original post at Reddit:

reddit.com

The ratio on that kid is utterly brutal.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:21:15am

re: #255 HappyWarrior

Why do people find Peterson compelling ? He’s an obnoxious self righteous boob.

Bill Maher, who is also obnoxious and self-righteous, finds him compelling. At least enough to have him on his show without criticizing his message.

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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:22:17am

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

POS45 brags about a candidate who physically beat up a reporter & this delicate snowflake is all triggered that another reporter said a cuss word.

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Go away Boris.

I note you don’t say anything about the way Trump acts and speaks. He has a bigger responsibility as a President than Acosta does addressing one idiot on Twitter.

I’d still like to dig in to see where Boris came from. He’s another creep that cropped up due to Trump and the media giving him a platform.

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sagehen  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:28:10am

re: #145 Anymouse 🌹

If we’re going for Billboard Hot 100 top songs, on my birthday I weigh in with “Cathy’s Clown.”

Could have been predictive, since my wife long went by her middle nickname “Kathy.”

Sadly, mine could also have been predictive,
Connie Francis - Everybody’s Somebody’s Fool

Connie Francis - Everybody’s Somebody’s Fool (1960) HQ

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:30:16am

re: #79 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, I’m way late on this….

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I got Ivanhoe:

“The Legends and Loves of the Greatest Knight of Them All!”

So I got that goin’ for me.

As am I, late that is. Anatomy of a Murder. No wonder…that explains a lot. :-D

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:34:52am
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ericblair  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:42:11am


Julian Assange launches legal action against Ecuador

Ahahaha. Anyone in Ecuador who expected any gratitude from that shitbag had it coming.

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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:43:41am

re: #272 ericblair


Julian Assange launches legal action against Ecuador

Ahahaha. Anyone in Ecuador who expected any gratitude from that shitbag had it coming.

Kick his butt out!

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:48:01am

re: #272 ericblair


Julian Assange launches legal action against Ecuador

Ahahaha. Anyone in Ecuador who expected any gratitude from that shitbag had it coming.

It’s probably only a matter of time now before the Ecuadorian Ministry of Foreign Affairs orders Assange’s ass kicked to the curb.

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Skip Intro  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:50:45am

re: #228 HappyWarrior

Saw in the Post that Trump’s right wing buddies are smearing Jamal Khashoggi. These fuckers are evil.

It’s starting appear all over Trumpland now. Evil doesn’t even come close to describing these monsters. Everything is to protect Trump at all costs, no matter what.

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Skip Intro  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:51:53am

re: #274 Dr Lizardo

It’s probably only a matter of time now before the Ecuadorian Ministry of Foreign Affairs orders Assange’s ass kicked to the curb.

I thought that was supposed to happen months ago. He still has an election to hack, I guess, so he gets to stay.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:57:49am

ok boys and girls, get ready.

i’m going to put a string of words together i never thought would be possible.
and no, it’s not about the current state of politics or world affairs
here it is:

“Today i ran with a pig.”

where i live is a small semi rural, no zoning, anything goes area surrounded by normal south florida suburbia. people keep horses, donkeys, chickens, goats, peacocks. and there’s wildlife too as we’re just a couple miles from the edge of the everglades.

im at the end of my hour, heading down my road and there’s a small dog? no wait…it’s a pig walking around. new to the neighborhood. we havent had pigs in years

i see further down a bunch of folks keeping an eye on it, so i jog past the porker.
he, she? takes up with me. actually is a tad faster as it starts heading the same direction - for ‘home’

we pace for nearly a minute, then it sees something more interesting in the grass and stops (squirrel!)

short legs and all it mighta beat me home if it hadnt got distracted

What a wonderful day. I ran with a pig.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:59:51am

re: #275 Skip Intro

It’s starting appear all over Trumpland now. Evil doesn’t even come close to describing these monsters. Everything is to protect Trump at all costs, no matter what.

i think half of em couldnt articulate what they’re doing or why
or why it’s ‘good’ for the country or foreign policy or ….

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:00:03am

re: #244 Scottish Dragon

Lemme tell you just how bad those Girl Guide cookies are.

I am a cookie fiend. I could and have eaten a box at a time of Girl Scout cookies. (I don’t eat them any longer but let me tell you, cookies are my Achilles Heel, moreso than bread or any other carb, which I no longer eat unless it is green and leafy.)

I also like to support local groups, especially girl groups.

I bought three boxes of Girl Guide cookies. And threw out two and a half of them. That is how bad they are.

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sagehen  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:01:42am

re: #195 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You can take on that part if you like. Carter is a great man, but his presidency is hard to defend.

He was in over his head. He meant well.

On economics and other domestic issues, he was incompetent and ineffective. On foreign policy, he was hit and miss.

That said… a lasting peace between Israel and Egypt is a massive achievement, and makes up for a lot.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:02:54am

Looking at the stuff about Trump’s speech last night, Hillary Clinton has taken on a totemic aspect like Snowball from Animal Farm. She is the Forever Foe, the Unending Villain who is both all powerful and somehow also pathetic and helpless.

This is also a significant element in fascism as well as Stalinism.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:03:31am

re: #279 MsJ

Lemme tell you just how bad those Girl Guide cookies are.

I am a cookie fiend. I could and have eaten a box at a time of Girl Scout cookies. (I don’t eat them any longer but let me tell you, cookies are my Achilles Heel, moreso than bread or any other carb, which I no longer eat unless it is green and leafy.)

I also like to support local groups, especially girl groups.

I bought three boxes of Girl Guide cookies. And threw out two and a half of them. That is how bad they are.

What cookies were they??!!

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:03:49am

re: #277 dangerman

What a wonderful day. I ran with a pig.

Pics of the little porker?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:04:37am

re: #275 Skip Intro

It’s starting appear all over Trumpland now. Evil doesn’t even come close to describing these monsters. Everything is to protect Trump at all costs, no matter what.

Yeah in this case evil might be an understatement. You’re right. All about protecting Trump no matter what.

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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:05:15am

re: #281 Scottish Dragon

Looking at the stuff about Trump’s speech last night, Hillary Clinton has taken on a totemic aspect like Snowball from Animal Farm. She is the Forever Foe, the Unending Villain who is both all powerful and somehow also pathetic and helpless.

This is also a significant element in fascism as well as Stalinism.

And the media gleefully enable the eternal Two-Minute Hate against her.

And the communism allegory aside, Trump is a damn good parallel for Napoleon.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:05:22am

re: #277 dangerman

ok boys and girls, get ready.

i’m going to put a string of words together i never thought would be possible.
and no, it’s not about the current state of politics or world affairs
here it is:

“Today i ran with a pig.”

where i live is a small semi rural, no zoning, anything goes area surrounded by normal south florida suburbia. people keep horses, donkeys, chickens, goats, peacocks. and there’s wildlife too as we’re just a couple miles from the edge of the everglades.

im at the end of my hour, heading down my road and there’s a small dog? no wait…it’s a pig walking around. new to the neighborhood. we havent had pigs in years

i see further down a bunch of folks keeping an eye on it, so i jog past the porker.
he, she? takes up with me. actually is a tad faster as it starts heading the same direction - for ‘home’

we pace for nearly a minute, then it sees something more interesting in the grass and stops (squirrel!)

short legs and all it mighta beat me home if it hadnt got distracted

What a wonderful day. I ran with a pig.

Runs with Pigs—maybe Costner can play you in the movie!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:07:50am

Queensland votes to legalize abortion
edition.cnn.com

This overturns a XIX Century ban on the procedure.

Abortion will be legalized in Queensland, after lawmakers in the Australian state overturned 19th-century legislation banning the procedure. The Legislative Assembly voted 50-41 to make termination available on request up to the 22nd week of pregnancy.

The bill also creates “safe access zones” of 150 meters around abortion clinics to protect women from harassment by anti-abortion campaigners.

Terminating a pregnancy has been illegal in Queensland since 1899, punishable by up to seven years in prison and classified as an “offence against morality” in its criminal code.

(more)

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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:11:32am

After a year of #MeToo, American opinion has shifted against victims

ONE year ago Alyssa Milano, an American actress, posted on Twitter: “If you’ve been sexually harassed or assaulted write ‘me too’ as a reply to this tweet.” Within 24 hours she had received more than 500,000 responses using the hashtag “#MeToo”. Ms Milano’s tweet came days after the New York Times and New Yorker had published detailed allegations of sexual harassment by Harvey Weinstein, a Hollywood producer. Mr Weinstein was the first in a long line of prominent entertainers and executives to be toppled by such investigations, which dominated the headlines throughout late 2017 (see chart below).

Even as these stories broke, it was #MeToo that resonated most on social media, as millions of women shared their experiences of abuse, intimidation and discrimination. In the past 12 months, the hashtag has been tweeted 18m times according to Keyhole, a social-media analytics company. The phrase has come to encapsulate the idea of sexual misconduct and assault. In recent months American journalists have used the hashtag in their articles more frequently than they have mentioned “sexual harassment”, according to Meltwater, a media analytics company.

Yet surveys suggest that this year-long storm of allegations, confessions and firings has actually made Americans more sceptical about sexual harassment. In the first week of November 2017, YouGov polled 1,500 Americans about their attitudes on the matter, on behalf of The Economist. In the final week of September 2018, it conducted a similar poll again. When it came to questions about the consequences of sexual assault and misconduct, there was a small but clear shift against victims

The graphs show that most of the increase is obviously carried by Trump voters, because of fucking course. But the fact that the increases have been almost across the board is fucking depressing. The God of Spite and the Backfire Effect may as well fucking rule the day it seems.

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jeffreyw  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:11:39am

re: #281 Scottish Dragon

Looking at the stuff about Trump’s speech last night, Hillary Clinton has taken on a totemic aspect like Snowball from Animal Farm. She is the Forever Foe, the Unending Villain who is both all powerful and somehow also pathetic and helpless.

This is also a significant element in fascism as well as Stalinism.

She is Emmanuel Goldstein.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:12:35am

re: #288 Citizen K

After a year of #MeToo, American opinion has shifted against victims

The graphs show that most of the increase is obviously carried by Trump voters, because of fucking course. But the fact that the increases have been almost across the board is fucking depressing. The God of Spite and the Backfire Effect may as well fucking rule the day it seems.

That’s depressing.

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jeffreyw  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:13:48am

re: #286 Barefoot Grin

Runs with Pigs—maybe Costner can play you in the movie!

There was an actual movie that was being made along those lines but one of the characters didn’t survive the cast picnic.

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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:15:06am

re: #291 jeffreyw

There was an actual movie that was being made along those lines but one of the characters didn’t survive the cast picnic.

I heard he was canned because his performance was too hammy.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:15:13am

re: #281 Scottish Dragon

Looking at the stuff about Trump’s speech last night, Hillary Clinton has taken on a totemic aspect like Snowball from Animal Farm. She is the Forever Foe, the Unending Villain who is both all powerful and somehow also pathetic and helpless.

This is also a significant element in fascism as well as Stalinism.

It’s really getting old. The latest is how she shouldn’t have said Bill’s affair with Monica was an abuse of power. Unprofessional? Yes but I wouldn’t say it was an abuse of power either. Amazing how Mitt Romney who actually lost the popular vote and is a much worse person is allowed to run for the Senate without any scrutiny to him by the media.

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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:15:13am

re: #195 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You can take on that part if you like. Carter is a great man, but his presidency is hard to defend.

I bet you’d take him over the lump in the seat now…wouldn’t you?

Trump elevates just about everyone before him a few notches.

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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:17:16am

re: #293 HappyWarrior

It’s really getting old. The latest is how she shouldn’t have said Bill’s affair with Monica was an abuse of power. Unprofessional? Yes but I wouldn’t say it was an abuse of power either. Amazing how Mitt Romney who actually lost the popular vote and is a much worse person is allowed to run for the Senate without any scrutiny to him by the media.

Because there’s no long-term consequences for anything as a Republican except 1) being gay, or 2) working with Dems without plans to backstab them in the end.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:18:23am

re: #288 Citizen K

That’s because conservatives have been using the MeToo movement to claim victimhood.

Remember, a conservative is always a victim, especially when he is not.

Kavanaugh passed the Senate because conservatives cast him as a victim. The entire MRA movement is based on the idea they are victims. Jordon Peterson paints men as victims of feminism. Rush Limbaugh calls women “feminzis.”

For decades conservative men have been programmed by their cult leaders they are victims. (See also Christians and the “war on Christmas” first launched not by FOX, but by the JBS in the Fifties.)

Ohio Senate Candidate Jim Renacci Tries To #MeToo Sherrod Brown (Wonkette)

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:18:53am

re: #291 jeffreyw

There was an actual movie that was being made along those lines but one of the characters didn’t survive the cast picnic.

They usually don’t roast the star until after the movie has had its run.

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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:20:46am

re: #296 Anymouse 🌹

That’s because conservatives have been using the MeToo movement to claim victimhood.

Remember, a conservative is always a victim, especially when he is not.

Kavanaugh passed the Senate because conservatives cast him as a victim. The entire MRA movement is based on the idea they are victims. Jordon Peterson paints men as victims of feminism. Rush Limbaugh calls women “feminzis.”

For decades conservative men have been programmed by their cult leaders they are victims. (See also Christians and the “war on Christmas” first launched not by FOX, but by the JBS in the Fifties.)

Ohio Senate Candidate Jim Renacci Tries To #MeToo Sherrod Brown (Wonkette)

I posted a bunch of the Renacci BS yesterday. He’s a real low-down dirty dealing Republican now that he is desperately trying to win.

I hope he gets stomped bad enough he is out of politics.

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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:22:46am

Forgot who said it (think it was one of the Balloon Juice commentariat), but it was along the lines of ‘the press is terrible at convincing people how to think, but are especially good at telling them what to think about’. If they don’t say anything about it, it may as well not exist.

If the Dems have an actual platform and run on it, but the media ignores it, do they really have a platform? The answer apparently is ‘yes, but they may as well not’. It’s hard not to ‘preach to the choir’ when there’s no way to get your voice past the choir.

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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:25:21am

re: #296 Anymouse 🌹

That’s because conservatives have been using the MeToo movement to claim victimhood.

Remember, a conservative is always a victim, especially when he is not.

Kavanaugh passed the Senate because conservatives cast him as a victim. The entire MRA movement is based on the idea they are victims. Jordon Peterson paints men as victims of feminism. Rush Limbaugh calls women “feminzis.”

For decades conservative men have been programmed by their cult leaders they are victims. (See also Christians and the “war on Christmas” first launched not by FOX, but by the JBS in the Fifties.)

Ohio Senate Candidate Jim Renacci Tries To #MeToo Sherrod Brown (Wonkette)

The fact that they seem to be successful in claiming the mantle of victimization is wholly depressing and demoralizing. All the while actual victims get punched back into the shadows.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:27:05am
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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:28:22am

re: #299 Citizen K

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Forgot who said it (think it was one of the Balloon Juice commentariat), but it was along the lines of ‘the press is terrible at convincing people how to think, but are especially good at telling them what to think about’. If they don’t say anything about it, it may as well not exist.

If the Dems have an actual platform and run on it, but the media ignores it, do they really have a platform? The answer apparently is ‘yes, but they may as well not’. It’s hard not to ‘preach to the choir’ when there’s no way to get your voice past the choir.

Republican violence is always authentic American feeling while Democratic anger is dangerous and suspect.

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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:34:23am

re: #302 Scottish Dragon

Republican violence is always authentic American feeling while Democratic anger is dangerous and suspect.

That’s because Republicans are ‘Real America’. They’re always more ‘American’ than us no matter what they do. The media says so.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:34:31am

Off-topic: Mega-Millions hits $1 Billion for tonight’s draw.

Win that and I might be able to repaint my house.

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TedStriker  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:35:55am

re: #304 Anymouse 🌹

Off-topic: Mega-Millions hits $1 Billion for tonight’s draw.

Win that and I might be able to repaint my house.

In real gold and/or platinum…

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gocart mozart  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:36:24am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:38:09am

re: #305 TedStriker

In real gold and/or platinum…

I’ll settle for a new coat of latex paint.

I would definitely finance a massive fireworks display for my town on July 4, ‘cause I like fireworks displays and we never have any near here.

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:38:21am

I cannot say, in words, just how much I absolutely despise anything and everything republican. There are no words, truly.

There is not a single republican worth spitting at let alone voting for. They all look at this and shrug.

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:40:40am

re: #304 Anymouse 🌹

Off-topic: Mega-Millions hits $1 Billion for tonight’s draw.

Win that and I might be able to repaint my house.

In liquid 14k gold and then build a little second home that’s 50,000 sq feet and paint it in liquid gold…and put 10k diamonds around every window.

And have enough left over to buy an island.

:-D

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:42:09am

re: #309 MsJ

In liquid 14k gold and then build a little second home that’s 50,000 sq feet and paint it in liquid gold…and put 10k diamonds around every window.

And have enough left over to buy an island.

:-D

He wants to buy the new kind of paint that will change color on command.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:43:21am

Here’s a rabbit hole in the Internet mostly full of snark:

Enough Jordon Peterson Spam (Reddit)

Mostly full of memes, but other stuff too.

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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:44:10am

I see YouTube has the Sherrod Brown debate with Jim Renacci. It is the full debate, but I set it to start with the debate question to them regarding the Kavanaugh hearings.

This is where it gets hot between the two when Renacci responds to Brown’s answer by bringing up Brown’s old divorce issues even his own ex-wife said she wants out of the debate.

That doesn’t stop Renacci. They think they can Bill Clinton Brown with a # MeToo attack.

Ohio Senate Debate 2018

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Skip Intro  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:45:30am

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:46:44am

re: #313 Skip Intro

Where’s the link for that?

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:48:10am

re: #310 Belafon

He wants to buy the new kind of paint that will change color on command.

Chameleon. My favorite!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:48:22am

Bill Maher gets taken apart on his stances on “SJWs” and “Campus Rhetoric” (7:14)

As pointed out to him, there are thousands of speeches on campuses every year, but the media calls on the sensational few that make the news, usually from right-wing outrage.

Bill Maher Gets Schooled On ‘Campus Protests’ & ‘SJW’ Rhetoric

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Skip Intro  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:49:08am

re: #314 Belafon

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:49:40am

re: #228 HappyWarrior

Saw in the Post that Trump’s right wing buddies are smearing Jamal Khashoggi. These fuckers are evil.

No one could have pred— oh wait yes everyone could predict this would happen with today’s GOP.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:52:33am

re: #318 Sir John Barron

No one could have pred— oh wait yes everyone could predict this would happen with today’s GOP.

I’ve stopped being shocked. There’s nothing that won’t be done.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:53:58am

re: #316 Anymouse 🌹

Bill Maher gets taken apart on his stances on “SJWs” and “Campus Rhetoric” (7:14)

As pointed out to him, there are thousands of speeches on campuses every year, but the media calls on the sensational few that make the news, usually from right-wing outrage.

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Most of those speeches are by people specifically trying to incite shit. Milo was outing transgendered students on campuses & encouraging harassment.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:57:37am

re: #283 MsJ

Pics of the little porker?

alas, no. i don’t carry a phone when i run

i’ll try if i go out later and it’s still here….

a little meta: note how natural it is that “pics” means “phone” and not “camera”

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:59:41am

re: #288 Citizen K

After a year of #MeToo, American opinion has shifted against victims

The graphs show that most of the increase is obviously carried by Trump voters, because of fucking course. But the fact that the increases have been almost across the board is fucking depressing. The God of Spite and the Backfire Effect may as well fucking rule the day it seems.

they do not want to acknowledge that it is so widespread

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:01:23am

re: #320 HappyWarrior

Most of those speeches are by people specifically trying to incite shit. Milo was outing transgendered students on campuses & encouraging harassment.

That was the idea of the video, and Yiannopolis was mentioned in it.

The sensationalism part for the press is when there is pushback.

Conservative bloviators on the radio and Internet claim they are being “silenced” even though thousands of conservatives make speeches or write books every year.

Anti-abortion protests at clinics by churches and conservatives are so ubiquitous that the press doesn’t even report on them (unless violence breaks out).

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Interesting Times  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:06:14am

re: #322 dangerman

they do not want to acknowledge that it is so widespread

The money quote from that article is the final paragraph:

Surprisingly, these changes in opinion against victims have been slightly stronger among women than men. Rather than breaking along gendered lines, the #MeToo divide increasingly appears to be a partisan one. On each of these three questions, the gap between Trump and Clinton voters is at least six times greater than the one between genders.

This is entirely in line with earlier polls that showed GOPer women were the group most likely to disbelieve Dr. Christine Blasey Ford.

Why?

To me, it looks like classic cognitive dissonance - either they acknowledge systemic misogyny or they cling to GOPer ideology/”wins.” The ones who still held some sanity (e.g. Jennifer Rubin, Ana Navarro) have already abandoned (or are in the process of abandoning) today’s GOP. And that means the ones who remain become all the more fanatical and irrational and cult-like.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:06:36am

re: #321 dangerman

alas, no. i don’t carry a phone when i run

i’ll try if i go out later and it’s still here….

a little meta: note how natural it is that “pics” means “phone” and not “camera”

* Holds up rotary phone receiver, looking for camera lens. *

I have two cameras to take pictures with though (both Polaroids: a digital, and a One-Step.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:08:14am

re: #323 Anymouse 🌹

That was the idea of the video, and Yiannopolis was mentioned in it.

The sensationalism part for the press is when there is pushback.

Conservative bloviators on the radio and Internet claim they are being “silenced” even though thousands of conservatives make speeches or write books every year.

Anti-abortion protests at clinics by churches and conservatives are so ubiquitous that the press doesn’t even report on them (unless violence breaks out).

Even though hundreds of conservative hate talkers on radio are free to bloviate their hatred and dissension.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:09:52am

re: #228 HappyWarrior

Saw in the Post that Trump’s right wing buddies are smearing Jamal Khashoggi. These fuckers are evil.

my response is still:

“how does —insert smear here— make this ok?”

he could be the lowest, vilest, liberal, socialist, democrat, alinsky acolyte, soros payoff receiving……whatever

an american resident kidnapped and killed by a foreign government, in their embassy

it was organized

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:10:12am

re: #317 Skip Intro

Well, we must be doing a terrible job of it since Fox News (The ratings leader!) is still on the air and conservative talk radio still dominates that market.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:11:39am

re: #324 Interesting Times

The money quote from that article is the final paragraph:

This is entirely in line with earlier polls that showed GOPer women were the group most likely to disbelieve Dr. Christine Blasey Ford.

Why?

To me, it looks like classic cognitive dissonance - either they acknowledge systemic misogyny or they cling to GOPer ideology/”wins.” The ones who still held some sanity (e.g. Jennifer Rubin, Ana Navarro) have already abandoned (or are in the process of abandoning) today’s GOP. And that means the ones who remain become all the more fanatical and irrational and cult-like.

exactly so

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:13:46am

re: #325 Anymouse 🌹

* Holds up rotary phone receiver, looking for camera lens. *

I have two cameras to take pictures with though (both Polaroids: a digital, and a One-Step.

i tried carrying a ‘rotary’ phone on a run once

when i got to the cord’s limit, i ended up running in ever smaller circles
then i had to run the other direction to unwind myself

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Skip Intro  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:18:39am

re: #328 Sir John Barron

Well, we must be doing a terrible job of it since Fox News (The ratings leader!) is still on the air and conservative talk radio still dominates that market.

“Suppression” = criticism.

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gocart mozart  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:21:19am

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trade you

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wrenchwench  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:27:16am

re: #330 dangerman

i tried carrying a ‘rotary’ phone on a run once

when i got to the cord’s limit, i ended up running in ever smaller circles
then i had to run the other direction to unwind myself

I dressed up as a pay phone once for Halloween. This was before cell phones existed. The idea of a phone walking up to you and ringing and saying, ‘It’s for you’ and handing the receiver to a surprised person was actually funny back then.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:31:27am

re: #327 dangerman

my response is still:

“how does —insert smear here— make this ok?”

he could be the lowest, vilest, liberal, socialist, democrat, alinsky acolyte, soros payoff receiving……whatever

an american resident kidnapped and killed by a foreign government, in their embassy

it was organized

Precisely

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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:32:35am

Oh look…here is the group behind the MeTooOhio movement which only was formed to attack Sherrod Brown. This article goes into some depth of what is going on.

It sounds to me the allegations that were dug up from the Brown’s divorce are those kind of allegations lawyers ask their client to make for a divorce claim. He was mean and abusive. Was he really…was that found as true in the divorce proceedings?

Canton Repository - Sherrod Brown’s ex-wife refutes claims of domestic abuse

Larke Recchie, Brown’s former wife, calls the video aired by supporters of Jim Renacci ‘shameless’ and ‘disgusting’

WASHINGTON Larke Recchie, the ex-wife of Sen. Sherrod Brown, said she is “dismayed” supporters of Brown’s re-election opponent Jim Renacci resurrected a three-decade old accusation Thursday that Brown engaged in domestic violence against her, calling the use of her divorce records for a political campaign “shameless” and “disgusting.”

Just hours after the Daily Caller in Washington reported a video was airing accusing Brown of abusing his former wife in the 1980s, Renacci, a Republican congressman from Wadsworth, told The Columbus Dispatch: “Sherrod Brown’s well-documented history of domestic violence is deeply troubling. Ohioans deserve to know all the facts, and judge his fitness for public office for themselves.”

But in a statement issued by Brown’s office, Larke Recchie said “this isn’t the first time someone has gone after my family to score cheap political points. I’m dismayed that Congressman Renacci would do something this shameless, despite the fact that I’ve already addressed this matter.”

“I was proud to support Sherrod in 2006 and 2012 — just as I am this time around. Anyone who suggests he is not an honorable man is just wrong,” she said.

“He’s a great father to our daughters Emily and Liz and he’s a wonderful grandfather to our grandchildren,” she said. “Disparaging my family for political gain is disgusting, and Congressman Renacci should know better.”

Recchie and her husband Joe held a fundraiser in their central Ohio home last weekend for Brown’s re-election campaign.

The 60-second commercial is being shown digitally by a group called MeTooOhio, which according to the Federal Elections Commission was formed last week. The spokeswoman for the super pac is Alice Stewart, a Republican consultant in Washington who served on the Republican presidential campaigns of Mike Huckabee and Ted Cruz.

In an interview, Stewart said her organization is spending less than $100,000 on the commercial.

The MeTooOhio posted documents to Brown’s divorce and linked them to Majority Strategies in Florida, a firm headed by Brett Buerck, a former Ohio Republican Party official. Majority Strategies has done printing and production work for Renacci’s Senate campaign. Asked about their involvement in the ad, a spokesman for Majority Strategies said the organization’s long-standing policy is not to confirm or deny any media requests.

Stewart said “there is no coordination” between her super pac and the Renacci campaign. “I understand there is always the hunt to track down who is involved in the effort, but I truly think it’s more important to focus on the information” in the commercial, she said in an interview.

In a statement, Stewart called on Brown to resign.

“Senator Brown’s #MeToo moment is here and it’s time for him to step aside,” Stewart said. “It’s the height of hypocrisy for him to claim to be an advocate for women with these charges in his past.”

A press release sent out by MeTooOhio compared Brown to Bill Cosby, who is accused of drugging and raping women as far back as the 1960s, Sen. Al Franken, who resigned over inappropriate behavior that occurred before he served in the Senate, and retired NFL player Ray Rice, who was suspended after a tape of him assaulting his wife in an elevator was released. Rice’s wife later forgave him, the release noted, saying while Brown has called the allegations “a family matter” in the past, “times have changed.”

A website affiliated with the video includes a PDF of Brown’s divorce records, including an affidavit testifying that Recchie felt “intimidated” by Brown and “in fear for the safety and well-being of myself and our children due to the defendant’s physical violence and abusive nature.”

The ad resuscitates charges made by Ohio Treasurer Josh Mandel in 2012. Recchie reacted similarly in 2012, rebutting the charges and saying she supports Brown’s political campaign. That year, she told a reporter the allegations were “angry words” made during “an unfriendly ordeal.”

In 2006, during Brown’s first U.S. Senate campaign, Recchie and Brown’s current wife, Connie Schultz, filmed an ad with his daughter Liz to discuss the charges, but then Sen. Mike DeWine never went public with his attack and the ad never aired.

Records from the 1986 divorce stand in stark contrast to a Tweet posted by Recchie from April 27 of this year: It shows Recchie and her husband Joe and Brown and his wife Connie Schultz in a raucous group shot on Grandparents Day at one of the grandchildren’s school. “So much fun!” she tweeted of the photo, which was a retweet of a photo Schultz had posted.

Ohio Republican Chair Jane Timken released the following statement in response to the new video:

“The rise of the #MeToo movement has helped women across the country find the courage to speak out against their abusers. In 2018, more women are coming forward than ever before and the culture of sweeping abuse and harassment under the rug is no longer acceptable. Sherrod Brown must be held to the same standard he claims to support. He owes Ohioans an explanation.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:35:34am

re: #335 ObserverArt

Oh look…here is the group behind the MeTooOhio movement which only was formed to attack Sherrod Brown. This article goes into some depth of what is going on.

It sounds to me the allegations that were dug up from the Brown’s divorce are those kind of allegations lawyers ask their client to make for a divorce claim. He was mean and abusive. Was he really…was that found as true in the divorce proceedings?

Canton Repository - Sherrod Brown’s ex-wife refutes claims of domestic abuse

Sketchy as hell. Glad his ex wife is standing by him. I guess Renaci knows he can’t win on his own merits so he has to resort to crap like that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:35:42am

re: #322 dangerman

they do not want to acknowledge that it is so widespread

It’s how they work - someone they like gets accused, and rather than recalibrate their view of that person, they recalibrate their view of the entire world.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:36:46am

Stephen Colbrt goes after Rev. Pat Robertson for putting a price of selling arms on human life?

“Thank you for capturing the core message of Christianity: How important can the death of one man be?” (appears at the four minute mark)

(6:45)

Trump Goes Out On A Limb, Predicts Khashoggi Is Dead

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:38:20am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:39:21am
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KGxvi  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:39:27am

re: #337 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s how they work - someone they like gets accused, and rather than recalibrate their view of that person, they recalibrate their view of the entire world.

Reminds me of this for some reason:

Creative problem solving
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Interesting Times  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:40:03am

re: #337 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s how they work - someone they like gets accused, and rather than recalibrate their view of that person, they recalibrate their view of the entire world.

Also, when the #MeToo movement exploded last year, the majority of the taken-down men were either Dems (Weinstein, Franken) or members of the media seen by RWNJs as “liberal” (Matt Lauer, Charlie Rose, etc). In comparison, the RWNJ culprits got off easy (Roger Ailes and Bill O’Reilly with their obscene golden parachutes). And child-molester Moore was only defeated due to high turnout among Alabama’s Black population (women especially).

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:40:15am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:40:42am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:41:02am

re: #339 jaunte

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I also like showing I don’t understand Grammar 101!

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KGxvi  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:41:26am

re: #339 jaunte

I’m in one of those moods, apparently, because all I can think of as a response is “isn’t there an ‘o’ in country?”

Quagmire’s Great Cross C—try Tour

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:41:28am
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jaunte  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:42:32am

Houston Chronicle Editorial Board Endorses Beto O’Rourke houstonchronicle.com

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:43:29am

“…With eyes clear but certainly not starry, we enthusiastically endorse Beto O’Rourke for U.S. Senate. The West Texas congressman’s command of issues that matter to this state, his unaffected eloquence and his eagerness to reach out to all Texans make him one of the most impressive candidates this editorial board has encountered in many years. Despite the long odds he faces - pollster nonpareil Nate Silver gives O’Rourke a 20 percent chance of winning - a “Beto” victory would be good for Texas, not only because of his skills, both personal and political, but also because of the manifest inadequacies of the man he would replace.

Ted Cruz — a candidate the Chronicle endorsed in 2012, by the way — is the junior senator from Texas in name only. Exhibiting little interest in addressing the needs of his fellow Texans during his six years in office, he has kept his eyes on a higher prize. He’s been running for president since he took the oath of office — more likely since he picked up his class schedule as a 15-year-old ninth-grader at Houston’s Second Baptist High School more than three decades ago. For Cruz, public office is a private quest; the needs of his constituents are secondary.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:43:40am

Event? FFS it was a grisly murder and dismembering not a fucking family picnic. Sigh we’re never going to recover from this guy. We’ll get better but he is our herpes sore on our nation’s collective asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:44:44am

re: #349 jaunte

Damn and Houston is Cruz’s home turf too iirc.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:45:19am

re: #299 Citizen K

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Forgot who said it (think it was one of the Balloon Juice commentariat), but it was along the lines of ‘the press is terrible at convincing people how to think, but are especially good at telling them what to think about’. If they don’t say anything about it, it may as well not exist.

If the Dems have an actual platform and run on it, but the media ignores it, do they really have a platform? The answer apparently is ‘yes, but they may as well not’. It’s hard not to ‘preach to the choir’ when there’s no way to get your voice past the choir.

I can’t remember who it was, but I listened to an interview with a Democratic operative who worked for Dean recently. He said something like, ‘I was there and no one thought it strange [the whoop] because it sounded right in the context; they way it was played endlessly in the news seemed to amplify, distort, and completely remove it from its context. He got shivved by the media.’

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:46:07am

re: #344 Charles Johnson

“No stupid teacher tell me how to language!”

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:46:14am
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KGxvi  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:46:31am

re: #348 jaunte

Houston Chronicle Editorial Board Endorses Beto O’Rourke houstonchronicle.com

They seem to be on the fence about Ted Cruz:

Ted Cruz — a candidate the Chronicle endorsed in 2012, by the way — is the junior senator from Texas in name only. Exhibiting little interest in addressing the needs of his fellow Texans during his six years in office, he has kept his eyes on a higher prize. He’s been running for president since he took the oath of office — more likely since he picked up his class schedule as a 15-year-old ninth-grader at Houston’s Second Baptist High School more than three decades ago. For Cruz, public office is a private quest; the needs of his constituents are secondary.

It was the rookie Cruz, riding high after a double-digit win in 2012, who brazenly took the lead in a 2013 federal government shutdown, an exercise in self-aggrandizement that he hoped would lead to the repeal of the Affordable Care Act. Cruz, instead, undercut the economy, cost taxpayers an estimated $2 billion (and inflicted his reading of Dr. Seuss’s “Green Eggs and Ham” on an unamused nation). Maybe the senator succeeded in cementing in his obstructionist tea party bona fides, but we don’t recall Texans clamoring for such an ill-considered, self-serving stunt.

All that’s missing is an old guy saying, “c’mon… Ted.”

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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:47:42am

re: #345 HappyWarrior

I also like showing I don’t understand Grammar 101!

A President can Capitalize anything he Wants, because he Is the PRESIDENT!

See Nixon: “When a president does it, that means it is not bad grammar.”

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:48:38am
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KGxvi  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:49:19am

re: #348 jaunte

Houston Chronicle Editorial Board Endorses Beto O’Rourke houstonchronicle.com

Also, it seems they’re lukewarm on Trump as well:

There’s one more reason O’Rourke should represent Texas in the U.S. Senate: He would help to serve as a check on a president who is a danger to the republic. Cruz is unwilling to take on that responsibility. Indeed, the man who delighted in calling the Texas senator “Lyin’ Ted” all through the 2016 presidential campaign, who insulted Cruz’s wife and his father, is bringing his traveling campaign medicine show to Houston next week to buoy the Cruz campaign. The hyperbole, the hypocrisy and the rancorous hot air just might blow the roof off the Toyota Center.

You’d think the editorial board were commenters here.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:50:26am

re: #358 KGxvi

I anticipate a lot of huffy letters to the editor.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:51:36am

Right now, one of the ads I’m seeing on my FB feed is from Amazon - not surprising since we have a Prime membership.

But it’s the specific ad that has me perplexed……

?
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CongoJack  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:52:46am

re: #357 Charles Johnson

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Just another reason upon about the other dozen for me to absolutely hate the SF Giants.

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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:53:52am

re: #360 Blind Frog Belly White

Right now, one of the ads I’m seeing on my FB feed is from Amazon - not surprising since we have a Prime membership.

But it’s the specific ad that has me perplexed……

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What was your wife doing on the computer searching for cattle prods???

You been slacking off lately?

(I am so much trouble now… : )

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:54:02am

re: #357 Charles Johnson

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That ad was one of the most bizarre retrograde things I’ve ever seen from a GOP pac.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:54:28am

re: #359 jaunte

I anticipate a lot of huffy letters to the editor.

Written in crayon.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:55:13am

re: #357 Charles Johnson

And by the way, this is not me

You just can’t catch a break.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:56:12am

One day, Trump voters are going to wake up and wonder what happened to their local economies.

“…back at Tigertown, some trailer manufacturers say that if they can’t find enough welders, they would consider moving their entire operations to Mexico.”

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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:56:27am

re: #363 HappyWarrior

That ad was one of the most bizarre retrograde things I’ve ever seen from a GOP pac.

Old time radio ads…it brings back nostalgia for an older crowd.

The way politics was done afore them new fangled TeeVees came out with all their filth.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:58:25am

re: #367 ObserverArt

Old time radio ads…it brings back nostalgia for an older crowd.

The way politics was done afore them new fangled TeeVees came out with all their filth.

Yeah I was thinking Amos and Andy or something like that. It was just so brazenly racist even for a Republican ad.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:58:59am

re: #366 jaunte

One day, Trump voters are going to wake up and wonder what happened to their local economies.

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No worries. Trump will blame the Hispanics and they’ll all feel better.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:00:24am

re: #369 HappyWarrior

“Don’t worry about the trailer businesses going south, there’s a Caravan coming north!!!”

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KGxvi  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:03:42am

re: #366 jaunte

“…back at Tigertown, some trailer manufacturers say that if they can’t find enough welders, they would consider moving their entire operations to Mexico.”

So much winning

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:04:50am

re: #366 jaunte

One day, Trump voters are going to wake up and wonder what happened to their local economies.

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There was a woman interviewed on Morning Edition this morning who is a Trump supporter. She showed off her ceramics that she makes and sells and noted that it’s harder since her one long time worker was deported. She likes that Trump is going after “illegal” immigrants, but wonders why they can’t leave the good ones (i.e. those with skills she valued and used) alone. Then she almost started crying as she explained how her friends have turned on her and suffer from “TDS.” It was a clinical example of the deluded (and wealthy) Trump supporter who won’t admit the horror they are complicit in.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:05:19am

re: #366 jaunte

One day, Trump voters are going to wake up and wonder what happened to their local economies.

“…back at Tigertown, some trailer manufacturers say that if they can’t find enough welders, they would consider moving their entire operations to Mexico.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
*gasp*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
*cough, cough*

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:05:20am

One reason Americans aren’t welding as much anymore is that Republicans have been so effective at dismantling unions.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:06:39am

re: #372 Barefoot Grin

There was a woman interviewed on Morning Edition this morning who is a Trump supporter. She showed off her ceramics that she makes and sells and noted that it’s harder since her one long time worker was deported. She likes that Trump is going after “illegal” immigrants, but wonders why they can’t leave the good ones (i.e. those with skills she valued and used) alone. Then she almost started crying as she explained how her friends have turned on her and suffer from “TDS.” It was a clinical example of the deluded (and wealthy) Trump supporter who won’t admit the horror they are complicit in.

Do these morons think they gain sympathy by saying that their friends are deranged, simply for making better choices than cult-members do?

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:06:51am

re: #357 Charles Johnson

There sure are a lot of assholes named Charles Johnson, no offence. ///

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:07:40am

re: #372 Barefoot Grin

There was a woman interviewed on Morning Edition this morning who is a Trump supporter. She showed off her ceramics that she makes and sells and noted that it’s harder since her one long time worker was deported. She likes that Trump is going after “illegal” immigrants, but wonders why they can’t leave the good ones (i.e. those with skills she valued and used) alone. Then she almost started crying as she explained how her friends have turned on her and suffer from “TDS.” It was a clinical example of the deluded (and wealthy) Trump supporter who won’t admit the horror they are complicit in.

This is great, Morning Edition. Just a few more thousand of these MAGAs and you’ll eventually reach them all.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:08:12am

re: #376 Single-handed sailor

There sure are a lot of assholes named Charles Johnson, no offence. ///

It’s a common name, and you only hear about them if they’re either very successful, or a complete embarrassment.

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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:10:01am

Columbus is in a huge building boom with apartments and condos. Huge construction going on downtown.

I see a lot of men of dark skin working the jobs. Especially in concrete, brick work, electrical and roofing.

I would wager the dark skin covers Hispanic/Latino to Middle Eastern.

They seem to be doing their jobs very well too.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:10:03am

re: #372 Barefoot Grin

“Nothing I do is wrong, unless God tells me, and so far, he’s been quiet.”

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:10:33am

Republicans dancing to Three Dog Night.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:10:49am

re: #376 Single-handed sailor

The disambiguation page on wikipedia is long.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:11:38am

re: #372 Barefoot Grin

There was a woman interviewed on Morning Edition this morning who is a Trump supporter. She showed off her ceramics that she makes and sells and noted that it’s harder since her one long time worker was deported. She likes that Trump is going after “illegal” immigrants, but wonders why they can’t leave the good ones (i.e. those with skills she valued and used) alone. Then she almost started crying as she explained how her friends have turned on her and suffer from “TDS.” It was a clinical example of the deluded (and wealthy) Trump supporter who won’t admit the horror they are complicit in.

so she was employing an ‘illegal’, er ‘illegally’?

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calochortus  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:12:47am

re: #366 jaunte

One day, Trump voters are going to wake up and wonder what happened to their local economies.

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Over on FR there was much discussion of how companies using cheap illegal labor needed to pay a living wage so Americans would do those jobs. These are the same people who think you’re a sucker if you pay a little extra for products that are made by companies who are environmentally conscious, or who are treating their employees well.
I just keep going back to Walmart in the ’80s advertising things being “Made in America” and switching to “Always the Low Price” because that’s what sold.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:13:16am

re: #374 jaunte

One reason Americans aren’t welding as much anymore is that Republicans have been so effective at dismantling unions.

“Manufacturing workers are being paid too much!”

“Okay, let’s break up the unions.”

“Americans aren’t taking the low paying manufacturing jobs!”

“Okay, then hire undocumented aliens.”

“Illegal aliens are coming in and taking jobs!”

“Okay, let’s get rid of the undocumented aliens.”

“We can’t find any workers for our factory at a wage we want to pay!”

“Okay, move the plant to Mexico.”

“Manufacturing jobs are going to other countries!”

“Okay, let’s put tariffs on imported goods.”

“Other countries are putting tariffs on our goods! Our sales are falling!”

As the King of Siam would say, “Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera…”

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:13:29am
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calochortus  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:15:37am

re: #383 dangerman

so she was employing an ‘illegal’, er ‘illegally’?

But, but, she had to do it!

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:16:23am

What fresh hell is this?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:16:56am

re: #383 dangerman

so she was employing an ‘illegal’, er ‘illegally’?

That’s how Conservatives make money. Undocumented residents are the cheapest source of labor since slavery.

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Alephnaught  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:16:57am

That’s okay, Donald. I have, and I’m sure I’m not alone in this view, long considered you to have cornered the ultimate capitalisation of the first syllable of this word.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:18:05am

re: #375 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Do these morons think they gain sympathy by saying that their friends are deranged, simply for making better choices than cult-members do?

“Forget it, Jake, it’s the OC.”

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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:18:12am

re: #383 dangerman

so she was employing an ‘illegal’, er ‘illegally’?

“Oh, look at my illegal over here. Look at ‘em,” she said. “Are you the greatest?”

(Borrowed a bit of that from The BIG Donny)

She just wanted all the other illegals gone.

The trailer builder in Texas knows they were his illegals, all those ‘others’ and yet the Trumpublicans can’t figure out percentage-wise, they may use more illegals than Democrats.

Let’s get ‘em all out of here!!!

Hey, wait…where did they all go???

Strange this whole thing. Pod People Politics.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:18:15am
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calochortus  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:18:18am

In other news, a deer ran into my car last night. Sigh. At least the car was still driveable and it wasn’t anything I could have prevented, but damn, it was stressful and will be a nuisance to deal with the damage.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:19:57am

re: #333 wrenchwench

I dressed up as a pay phone once for Halloween. This was before cell phones existed. The idea of a phone walking up to you and ringing and saying, ‘It’s for you’ and handing the receiver to a surprised person was actually funny back then.

I went really quirky one year. I actually costumed as a Christmas present, ribbons, bows and all. Worked out great till a lovely young lady wanted to “open the present”.. sadly she was not my less than thoroughly amused wife.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:20:07am

re: #394 calochortus

In other news, a deer ran into my car last night. Sigh. At least the car was still driveable and it wasn’t anything I could have prevented, but damn, it was stressful and will be a nuisance to deal with the damage.

They seem to be moving around a lot in dangerous areas this time of year.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:20:07am

re: #393 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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I’m totes ready to go get a Warhammer game started in the ruined city he has there….

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:20:16am

re: #388 Scottish Dragon

What fresh hell is this?

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Socialist Realism on acid.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:22:06am

I see he has a bunch of UN blue beret soldiers all being blinded by the vision of angelic Trump.

This is beyond crazy.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:24:00am
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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:24:25am

re: #387 calochortus

But, but, she had to do it!

how many times ive heard that if we had to pay on the books and follow all the rules we wouldnt survive

well then your business model sucks and should die
you’re artificially keeping it alive by playing by a different set of rules cheating

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:24:44am

“This is my painting based on a vision of George Washington.”

I was thinking if it’s a vision George Washington had, it might have been delirium from dental abcesses, or maybe the lead used in making up his dentures.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:25:16am

American Atheists released a tool to check the “state of the Secular States.”

After explaining what the tool does, it provides a map of the fifty states and DC. You can look at eighteen metrics of liberal and conservative policies to see how committed your state is to keeping church and state separate.

atheists.org

For example, my state scores very poorly. The metrics are (asterisk equals that protection exists):

STATE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS
State Establishment Clause
State Free Exercise Clause (*)

No Aid Clause:
Educational Organizations (*)
All Religious Organizations

Direct Funding (^)
Indirect Funding
Strong Taxpayer Standing (^)
Religious Tests for Office

SCHOOLS & YOUTH
Protection from Child Marriage
Protection from Conversion Therapy
Sex Education:
Comprehensive Sex Education
Abstinence Only Sex Education
Laws that Restrict Inclusion of LGBTQ Topics
Anti-Science Education Laws
Elective Bible Courses
Mandatory Religious Displays
Prohibitions on Student Non-Discrimination Policies
School Voucher Programs

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:25:18am

re: #395 Unshaken Defiance

I went really quirky one year. I actually costumed as a Christmas present, ribbons, bows and all. Worked out great till a lovely young lady wanted to “open the present”.. sadly she was not my less than thoroughly amused wife.

Maybe you’ve made a terrible mistake in not being FLDS.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:25:23am

re: #394 calochortus

In other news, a deer ran into my car last night. Sigh. At least the car was still driveable and it wasn’t anything I could have prevented, but damn, it was stressful and will be a nuisance to deal with the damage.

Once cycling over an interstate highway I saw a deer run into the path of a car. It was terrifying and the damage was significant (and the poor deer….).

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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:26:36am
Jon McNaughton
@McNaughtonArt
* Oct 18, 2018
This is my painting based on a vision of George Washington. See the full image and learn more here: bit.ly

Do they still make the concoction that Washington may have been using as “medicine” which brought on this vision?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:28:00am

re: #405 Barefoot Grin

Once cycling over an interstate highway I saw a deer run into the path of a car. It was terrifying and the damage was significant (and the poor deer….).

Three times while driving I saw a deer run into the path of a car. MY car. In my family, they call me Deerslayer.

My sister with no sense of direction, we call Pathfinder.

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KGxvi  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:28:17am

re: #388 Scottish Dragon

I couldn’t help myself, I clicked through… this is apparently based on a story:

In the National Tribune, 1880, an article appeared giving an account of the “Vision of Washington” at Valley Forge. The account was told by a gentleman named Anthony Sherman, who supposedly was at Valley Forge during the winter of 1777-78. The story has been published several times.

Like the Cherry Tree, there’s probably not much truth to this story, first written down 100 years after it supposedly happened. And it makes no fucking sense whatsoever.

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calochortus  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:28:29am

re: #396 Blind Frog Belly White

They seem to be moving around a lot in dangerous areas this time of year.

Yeah, bucks are chasing the does about now. I try to be careful on back roads and I-280, but this was on Farm Hill just before it becomes Jefferson, so fairly solidly suburban, though not far from places you’d expect them.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:29:21am
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calochortus  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:29:33am

re: #401 dangerman

how many times ive heard that if we had to pay on the books and follow all the rules we wouldnt survive

well then your business model sucks and should die
you’re artificially keeping it alive by playing by a different set of rules cheating

Unless your competitors are cheating. A race to the bottom.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:30:04am

re: #372 Barefoot Grin

There was a woman interviewed on Morning Edition this morning who is a Trump supporter. She showed off her ceramics that she makes and sells and noted that it’s harder since her one long time worker was deported. She likes that Trump is going after “illegal” immigrants, but wonders why they can’t leave the good ones (i.e. those with skills she valued and used) alone. Then she almost started crying as she explained how her friends have turned on her and suffer from “TDS.” It was a clinical example of the deluded (and wealthy) Trump supporter who won’t admit the horror they are complicit in.

Gee, if we’d only had a president who was focusing on deporting violent criminals instead of easy targets… .

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:30:13am

re: #393 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Yeah, that “vision” of Washington is apparently a bunch of hooey.

snopes.com

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:30:33am

re: #407 Blind Frog Belly White

Three times while driving I saw a deer run into the path of a car. MY car. In my family, they call me Deerslayer.

My sister with no sense of direction, we call Pathfinder.

Ha!

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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:31:33am

re: #410 Dave In Austin

on McNaughton
@McNaughtonArt
Here is the original image for “Fahrenheit 11/9” Have you seen the Michael Moore movie poster using my painting concept? Based on my painting Obama Foreign Policy. See more here: bit.ly

2:00 PM - Oct 19, 2018

ACK!

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:31:44am

re: #394 calochortus

In other news, a deer ran into my car last night. Sigh. At least the car was still driveable and it wasn’t anything I could have prevented, but damn, it was stressful and will be a nuisance to deal with the damage.

sorry for your troubles.
i wrote this above because i ran with a piglet this AM re: #277 dangerman

now, last weekend i was in New Jersey. Ordinary, suburban Wayne.
out around 5:30 am. I was nearly run over by a deer.
Over the course of 6 miles, I saw 11 deer, unless some were roaming duplicates.
On peoples lawns, backyards, etc. At first I thought they were holiday decorations….

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calochortus  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:31:51am

re: #405 Barefoot Grin

Once cycling over an interstate highway I saw a deer run into the path of a car. It was terrifying and the damage was significant (and the poor deer….).

Yeah. Fortunately I was doing about 30 mph, so even if I had run into it, rather than the other way around it wouldn’t have been catastrophic (except for the deer, of course.) I’m terrified of deer on the interstate at this time of year.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:32:22am

re: #409 calochortus

Yeah, bucks are chasing the does about now. I try to be careful on back roads and I-280, but this was on Farm Hill just before it becomes Jefferson, so fairly solidly suburban, though not far from places you’d expect them.

I passed a dead doe on Canada while bicycling Wednesday evening, right across from the Water Temple.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:32:35am

re: #410 Dave In Austin

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His paintings are so stupid. Meanwhile Mitt Romney actually did smirk regarding Benghazi.

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CongoJack  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:32:55am

re: #410 Dave In Austin

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Ignoring the BS iconography… the painting itself is horribly done. Should have stuck with the crayons.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:33:45am
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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:33:51am

re: #420 CongoJack

Ignoring the BS iconography… the painting itself is horribly done. Should have stuck with the crayons.

It’s hard to believe this was done with a straight face. I would swear to God it was a satire if I didn’t know who painted it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:33:57am

re: #394 calochortus

In other news, a deer ran into my car last night. Sigh. At least the car was still driveable and it wasn’t anything I could have prevented, but damn, it was stressful and will be a nuisance to deal with the damage.

I’m glad you’re alright, and sorry you have to deal with the car damage.

It is noteworthy that cars today are built far better to withstand an accident like that. (That’s why our Smart car has survived two car-deer accidents.)

When we were looking for a house to buy in Valentine, a bunch of hunters were sitting around a restaurant table, and one was complaining he hadn’t seen a deer all season, but his daughter bought a $75 beater car and bagged one that very day.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:34:30am

You fed him, you keep him.

I wonder if they thought of consulting with the Saudis. /Too soon?

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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:35:59am

re: #420 CongoJack

Ignoring the BS iconography… the painting itself is horribly done. Should have stuck with the crayons.

I refer to them more as commercial art illustrations. Done for a “job” so to say and rendered to a theme needed for the product/story.

Plus, when you have a ready audience for these, they don’t have to be masterpieces. Those take time. He is cranking this stuff out as product.

Sadly, he probably does quite well with them.

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calochortus  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:36:36am

re: #416 dangerman

Running with a pig sounds like more fun than deer doing anything…

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:37:39am
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calochortus  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:38:30am

re: #423 Anymouse 🌹

I recall your run-ins, so to speak, with deer. No injuries is always a good thing.

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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:38:38am

re: #422 Scottish Dragon

It’s hard to believe this was done with a straight face. I would swear to God it was a satire if I didn’t know who painted it.

Oh, it’s satire for sure!

McNaughton and his audience may not realize it fully.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:39:03am

re: #383 dangerman

so she was employing an ‘illegal’, er ‘illegally’?

Lock her up. Immigration law clearly states that knowingly hiring an undocumented immigrant is a felony, carries a huge fine, and your business assets can be seized.

Wanna be a “law ‘n’ order” conservative, pay for your crimes.

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CongoJack  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:40:59am

re: #427 Charles Johnson

Beating a dead horse….

The angle of the legs is wrong. The angle of the portrait is wrong. Has this person never golfed before.. BO isnt going to be looking left when he is swinging left handed (like a left handed batter looking at the catcher instead of the pitcher). Color tone is off… the face is aged (as compared to the rest of the painting and the object being represented).

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:41:35am
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calochortus  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:41:56am

re: #430 Anymouse 🌹

Lock her up. Immigration law clearly states that knowingly hiring an undocumented immigrant is a felony, carries a huge fine, and your business assets can be seized.

Wanna be a “law ‘n’ order” conservative, pay for your crimes.

Just like all those good, conservative, Trump-loving Iowa dairy farmers who are dependent on undocumented workers.

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KGxvi  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:44:08am

re: #432 Charles Johnson

Look closely. I think that angel is supposed to be Trump.

That was my first thought as well. But I don’t think it is.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:46:15am

The angel needs more tie.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:46:54am

re: #407 Blind Frog Belly White

Three times while driving I saw a deer run into the path of a car. MY car. In my family, they call me Deerslayer.

My sister with no sense of direction, we call Pathfinder.

back in ‘92 or 93 i was riding across the mountains from carlsbad, NM to alamagordo. for no particular reason, i just had to get there that day. as i remember it, over 8000 feet, dark, and curvy. 1 lane each way, and lots of deer xing signs.

its dark and cold, you want to get there, so…speed limit (likely 55 or so)
but any deer meets a bike and i lose and likely dead.

so i plod along at 30 or so and every time i get passed, try to draft the car in front of me as long as i could.

i could have (should have) stopped in any town earlier and just left in the light (and warm) of the AM. while i was young(er) stupid and invincible it was true peril and i knew it. one of the four or five dumbest things i ever did on a bike. (yes i have a list)

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:47:27am

re: #408 KGxvi

I couldn’t help myself, I clicked through… this is apparently based on a story:

Like the Cherry Tree, there’s probably not much truth to this story, first written down 100 years after it supposedly happened. And it makes no fucking sense whatsoever.

kinda like…the bible?

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BigPapa  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:49:13am

Information on that painting from his website:

CHOOSE OPTIONS
Angel of Liberty - The Vision of George Washington The Vision of George Washington is not so well known by most Americans, but it is worth consideration as our country stands in peril of loosing everything we hold…

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:50:15am

re: #432 Charles Johnson

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Yeah, it’s Trump.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:50:19am

re: #436 dangerman

back in ‘92 or 93 i was riding across the mountains from carlsbad, NM to alamagordo. for no particular reason, i just had to get there that day. as i remember it, over 8000 feet, dark, and curvy. 1 lane each way, and lots of deer xing signs.

its dark and cold, you want to get there, so…speed limit (likely 55 or so)
but any deer meets a bike and i lose and likely dead.

so i plod along at 30 or so and every time i get passed, try to draft the car in front of me as long as i could.

i could have (should have) stopped in any town earlier and just left in the light (and warm) of the AM. while i was young(er) stupid and invincible it was true peril and i knew it. one of the four or five dumbest things i ever did on a bike. (yes i have a list)

I have had deer run out in front of me while riding, but in my case it was a BICYCLE.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:50:35am

re: #426 calochortus

Running with a pig sounds like more fun than deer doing anything…

‘twas

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:50:54am

I’m pretty sure that is supposed to be Trump. The full image has Washington in it. This is sofa king insane.

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Kragar  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:51:56am
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jaunte  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:52:52am

re: #442 Charles Johnson

To the right near Washington floats Ivanka, getting in on the grift as usual.

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danarchy  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:53:35am

re: #442 Charles Johnson

I’m pretty sure that is supposed to be Trump. The full image has Washington in it. This is sofa king insane.

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I dunno, when I look at a full size of it, it looks nothing like Trump to me.

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BigPapa  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:54:38am

I won’t like to other pieces from his twitter feed, but Mcnaughton is bonkers.

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calochortus  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:54:40am

re: #443 Kragar

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Well, that sounds like a great idea. I’m sure they have more foster families than children in need, right?
/

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calochortus  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:55:14am

re: #445 danarchy

I dunno, when I look at a full size of it, it looks nothing like Trump to me.

He’s not a very good artist, so who knows?

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:56:12am

re: #430 Anymouse 🌹

Lock her up. Immigration law clearly states that knowingly hiring an undocumented immigrant is a felony, carries a huge fine, and your business assets can be seized.

Wanna be a “law ‘n’ order” conservative, pay for your crimes.

yup. printed right there on the I-9.
doesnt even begin to explain the payroll tax exposure

oh wait, you ‘contracted’ with this person as an ‘independent’ so you wouldnt have to pay payroll and taxes? yeah. that was smart.
then did you request and receive a W-9, you know signed and with a federal id or SSN on it?

and did they actually have a business of their own? with a phone and clients, and invoices and they could make their own hours and you didnt tell them what to do when to do it or how to do it?

cheap, conniving, double dealing, dissembling cheaters
lock her up indeed

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:56:22am

re: #443 Kragar

And here we go.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:56:32am

Sure looks like it’s supposed to be Trump to me.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:57:08am

unre: #413 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, that “vision” of Washington is apparently a bunch of hooey.

snopes.com

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wrenchwench  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:57:10am

re: #440 Blind Frog Belly White

I have had deer run out in front of me while riding, but in my case it was a BICYCLE.

Terminology is getting so difficult. Lots of people want to call ones with motors ‘bicycles’.

We will need to bring back ‘moped’. But this time let’s get real; ‘less-ped’.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:57:38am

re: #445 danarchy

I dunno, when I look at a full size of it, it looks nothing like Trump to me.

Melania with Assange hair?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:58:44am

re: #451 Charles Johnson

Sure looks like it’s supposed to be Trump to me.

[Embedded content]

It doesn’t even look like the strong, alternative-reality, Trump that wingnuts imagine to me.

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wrenchwench  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:59:13am

re: #454 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Melania with Assange hair?

‘Artist’s rendition’ used to cover a lot of ground. Should have covered more paintings.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:59:22am

Try that again.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:00:14pm

Have no idea but man is it tacky.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:00:16pm

That’s Trump’s scowl.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:00:54pm

re: #455 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It doesn’t even look like the strong, alternative-reality, Trump that wingnuts imagine to me.

Ben Garrison’s Trump is hilarious albeit unintentionally.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:01:03pm
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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:01:12pm

re: #440 Blind Frog Belly White

I have had deer run out in front of me while riding, but in my case it was a BICYCLE.

we are all fortunate we are here to tell the tales

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:01:54pm

re: #461 Charles Johnson

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God I hate NRO. Just fold already you racist fucknuggets.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:04:00pm

re: #443 Kragar

[Embedded content]

you want to continue to take federal money AND be able to discriminate?

no
- if you want to discriminate in this way, stop taking federal money
- if we did that our business model couldnt survive…..

oh wait re: #401 dangerman

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:06:14pm

re: #435 jaunte

The angel needs more tie.

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CongoJack  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:07:39pm

re: #465 Anymouse 🌹

[Embedded content]

Jared is sitting and making Ivanka stand… douche.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:09:59pm

I responded to a bot.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:10:41pm

re: #466 CongoJack

Jared is sitting and making Ivanka stand… douche.

He’s frail and sickly. and she’s not.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:11:55pm

re: #443 Kragar

And it wouldn’t end at banning Jewish parents from adopting. Catholics, atheists, Protestants from other churches, Muslims, you name it.

If that hole is blown in the I Amendment, religious freedom and separation of church and state would be effectively dead.

You could then use such a ruling to ban the same groups from your business, &c.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:12:02pm

re: #467 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

“our retirement has doubled”

We used to retire at 65, now we can retire at 130.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:13:26pm

re: #453 wrenchwench

Terminology is getting so difficult. Lots of people want to call ones with motors ‘bicycles’.

We will need to bring back ‘moped’. But this time let’s get real; ‘less-ped’.

well they are bicycles
except the ones that arent - three wheels (two in back or front (wtf?)) or side cars

but no
engine, gears and no rotating pedals is of course a motor bicycle or motorcycle - a portmanteau

pedal assist and/or no gears - a swedish portmanteau - moped

the mo/less reminds me of something andy rooney once said on 60 minutes
and what kind of a name is morley (safer)
is it the opposite of leslie?

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gocart mozart  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:17:52pm
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KGxvi  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:18:26pm

re: #452 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It’s not even clear how religious Washington was. From what I’ve read of him, he seemed to be the sort that practiced civil religion more than anything - he’d rarely go to church when at home and but would go when he was in Philadelphia or New York as president. And that makes sense because through most of his life, religion was tied up way too much in civic life and vice versa.

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calochortus  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:22:28pm

BBL

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:25:12pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:26:57pm

re: #473 KGxvi

It’s not even clear how religious Washington was. From what I’ve read of him, he seemed to be the sort that practiced civil religion more than anything - he’d rarely go to church when at home and but would go when he was in Philadelphia or New York as president. And that makes sense because through most of his life, religion was tied up way too much in civic life and vice versa.

Wasn’t he a deist like many of our early founders? I think he had a religious background but he was a part of The Enlightenment and came to understand the thinking of others at the time like Jefferson and Franklin.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:27:42pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:27:52pm

re: #475 Unshaken Defiance

All the comments in that thread read like a Trump dating site (or the Church of Trump).

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:28:24pm

Right wingers are clutching their pearls again.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:31:12pm

re: #479 Charles Johnson

Right wingers are clutching their pearls again.

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Yeah? So the fuck what.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:32:02pm

re: #473 KGxvi

It’s not even clear how religious Washington was. From what I’ve read of him, he seemed to be the sort that practiced civil religion more than anything - he’d rarely go to church when at home and but would go when he was in Philadelphia or New York as president. And that makes sense because through most of his life, religion was tied up way too much in civic life and vice versa.

Like many wealthy and powerful men of his day, George Washington supported a church by buying a pew (in his case, #5 at Christ Church in Alexandria).

historicchristchurch.org

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:33:28pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:34:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:35:21pm

Trump: fire the sons of bitches
Media: Trump bring Trump
Acosta: *curses*
Other media: Oh dear, a potty word by Jim Acosta.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:38:09pm

IDAF Trump curses. I give a fuck he thinks he can encourage people to be fired for expressing opinions he doesn’t like.

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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:40:48pm

re: #484 HappyWarrior

Trump: fire the sons of bitches
Media: Trump bring Trump
Acosta: *curses*
Other media: Oh dear, a potty word by Jim Acosta.

Tone policing once again making bad words out to be a crime while defending state-sanctioned murder and sexual assault with genteel words is civil discourse.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:42:20pm

Trump Is Planning A New Rule To Let Federal Contractors Fire Employees For Religious Reasons (Buzzfeed):

When the Trump administration issued a directive in August that expanded a “religious exemption” for federal contractors who are accused of discrimination, activists feared the worst. The policy was essentially legal guidance, but it targeted LGBT rights specifically.

Now their fears have escalated.

The Trump administration is currently planning to create a formal religious-liberty regulation for businesses with federal contracts, which would create a loophole in an Obama administration policy protecting LGBT workers, according to several people familiar with the Labor Department’s plans who spoke to BuzzFeed News. Unlike the August directive, a regulation would carry more legal force and is tremendously difficult to undo.

It is unclear if the regulation will limit its scope to strictly religious corporations — for instance, a Jewish charity with a federal contract. The directive refers to the Supreme Court’s decisions in Hobby Lobby and Masterpiece Cakeshop, which concerned closely held, for-profit businesses with religious owners, not religious corporations.

(more)

See also proposal at the Office of Management and Budget: reginfo.gov

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:43:14pm
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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:43:32pm
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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:43:49pm

re: #487 Anymouse 🌹

Trump Is Planning A New Rule To Let Federal Contractors Fire Employees For Religious Reasons (Buzzfeed):

(more)

See also proposal at the Office of Management and Budget: reginfo.gov

Freedom of Religion extending only to owners/employers, not employees and customers. Sounds about right. After all, it’s all about empowering those at the top of the chain, never at the bottom.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:44:45pm

re: #484 HappyWarrior

Trump: fire the sons of bitches
Media: Trump bring Trump
Acosta: *curses*
Other media: Oh dear, a potty word by Jim Acosta.

Pedantic objection: Acosta did not curse. One can argue he used a vulgarity (the old Anglo-Saxon word for the euphemism “intercourse”) but not curse.

He didn’t call down the wrath of God on someone for example.

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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:45:03pm

Heh,

Just saw this checking my email on ATT/Yahoo. It is a couple days old, but what is time these days?

Trump is his own media guy now and for the midterms he needs to speak for himself…look out.

Trump Talks Directly to Journalists Without Media Team October 16, 2018

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:45:33pm

re: #491 Anymouse 🌹

Pedantic objection: Acosta did not curse. One can argue he used a vulgarity (the old Anglo-Saxon word for the euphemism “intercourse”) but not curse.

He didn’t call down the wrath of God on someone for example.

Fuck. You know what I meant.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:47:28pm

re: #490 Citizen K

Freedom of Religion extending only to owners/employers, not employees and customers. Sounds about right. After all, it’s all about empowering those at the top of the chain, never at the bottom.

When religions are weak, they seek the protection of the state. When they are strong, they try to become the state.

Should this march to theocracy continue, I fully expect to be marginalised from society.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:47:44pm

re: #388 Scottish Dragon

What fresh hell is this?

[Embedded content]

FTFY

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2018 • 12:50:07pm

re: #483 goddamnedfrank

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TL;DR: guy takes his girlfriend to see Jordan Peterson speak, she immediately tells him she wants to see other people, he doesn’t understand why

Any other people

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2018 • 1:00:34pm

re: #483 goddamnedfrank

smart gal

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 1:02:24pm

Yay, our ballots just arrived in the mail. Need to vote with extreme prejudice.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 19, 2018 • 1:04:03pm

Well now. A voice from long ago.

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2018 • 1:05:54pm

re: #476 ObserverArt

Wasn’t he a deist like many of our early founders? I think he had a religious background but he was a part of The Enlightenment and came to understand the thinking of others at the time like Jefferson and Franklin.

My understanding is that he attended Anglican services but would leave before or without taking communion. I am not, however, able to find my reference for that.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 1:33:00pm

re: #272 ericblair


Julian Assange launches legal action against Ecuador

Ahahaha. Anyone in Ecuador who expected any gratitude from that shitbag had it coming.

Even a three toed sloth knew this was coming!


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