The Bob Cesca Podcast: A Complete Lack of Understanding

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

A Complete Lack Of Understanding — NSFW; The Goth Ninjas David Ferguson and Jody Hamilton are here; And it’s time to fight; The Trump coverup of the Mueller Report is underway; Trump attempts to defund Special Olympics; Trump tries kill the ACA again; Calls for Adam Schiff to resign; The other collusion; Mark Corallo says Hope Hicks is lying; Adam Schiff lists the Trump crimes; Voters think there’s collusion; With music by the Mike Farley Band and After The Fight; and so much more.

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256 comments
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Ace Rothstein  Mar 28, 2019 • 8:00:01pm

FUCK TRUMP.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 28, 2019 • 8:06:27pm
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jaunte  Mar 28, 2019 • 8:09:47pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 28, 2019 • 9:26:26pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 28, 2019 • 9:29:27pm

Fuck yes!!! Biden should fire every one of this advisors who advocated for this terrible idea and then decided to shop it around in public before seeking Abrams’ permission.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 28, 2019 • 9:30:02pm

Y’all need some Trey.

Liberal Redneck - Mueller Report Schmueller Report

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William Lewis  Mar 28, 2019 • 9:39:52pm

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

Fuck yes!!! Biden should fire every one of this advisors who advocated for this terrible idea and then decided to shop it around in public before seeking Abrams’ permission.

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He won’t though. Both are still, blatantly, seeing if it will work and ignoring any evidence that it won’t. This is extremely damaging to the democrats that will deal with reality in 2020.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 28, 2019 • 9:48:41pm

hmm…scuse me, I gotta go build myself a workshop…

Real Working Fold Out Metal Shield

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 28, 2019 • 10:03:02pm
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Amory Blaine  Mar 28, 2019 • 10:12:54pm

re: #8 Sufficient unto the day…

Very cool. I’d add safety glasses though.

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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2019 • 10:14:06pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

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*siggggggh*

I swear to Zod, it’s the same shit every 4 years: “Hey, look at how much I care about rural voters! I’m eating a corn dog at a county fair! I’m wearing a button shirt with the sleeves rolled up! Joe Sixpack, you can definitely tell I care about you here in Bumfuck, Iowa!”

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Amory Blaine  Mar 28, 2019 • 10:16:51pm

Aww shucks those city slickers ain’t the salt of the earth like you God fearing folks.
*Gag

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Mar 28, 2019 • 10:18:04pm

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2019 • 10:19:12pm

In the latest news from the ongoing Brexit fiasco:

LOL no one knows WTF is going on anymore.

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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2019 • 10:19:33pm

re: #13 Grunthos the Flatulent

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I can’t help but wonder just how many MPs right now truly regret ever removing from her the ability to dissolve the gov’t and call elections on her own initiative.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2019 • 10:21:57pm

re: #15 Targetpractice

I can’t help but wonder just how many MPs right now truly regret ever removing from her the ability to dissolve the gov’t and call elections on her own initiative.

Apparently, repealing the Fixed-term Parliaments Act (the legislation that removed the Queen’s power to dissolve Parliament) was part of the Tories 2017 campaign manifesto.

Like so much else (looks at Brexit) it’s obvious they’ll do fuck all about it.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2019 • 10:25:24pm

re: #17 Amory Blaine

Trump Curses Out Democrats on Live Television: ‘Defrauding the Public With Ridiculous Bullsh*t!’

As always, Trump is actually speaking about himself.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 28, 2019 • 10:32:36pm

re: #17 Amory Blaine

Trump Curses Out Democrats on Live Television: ‘Defrauding the Public With Ridiculous Bullsh*t!’

Fuck Fat Bastard.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 28, 2019 • 10:32:55pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2019 • 10:37:09pm

re: #20 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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The only good thing about Tulsi is that she, Mayor Pete and Pulpit Pimp Marianne Williamson will pull primary votes away from Bernie.

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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2019 • 10:39:27pm

re: #17 Amory Blaine

Trump Curses Out Democrats on Live Television: ‘Defrauding the Public With Ridiculous Bullsh*t!’

So old I remember when the press collectively got the vapahs when Obama used ni-CLANG! in an editorial about the need for the nation to address its issues with racism, how they moaned about how he’d “demeaned the office” by “stooping” to use such a forbidden word.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 28, 2019 • 10:42:09pm

re: #22 Targetpractice

So old I remember when the press collectively got the vapahs when Obama used ni-CLANG! in an editorial about the need for the nation to address its issues with racism, how they moaned about how he’d “demeaned the office” by “stooping” to use such a forbidden word.

I’m so old I remember when a freshman Congresswoman was chastised for using colorful language to describe the traitor-in-chief.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 28, 2019 • 10:46:10pm
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2019 • 10:58:42pm

HBO has a new miniseries coming up.

Chernobyl (2019) | Official Trailer | HBO

Looks good in a terrifying sort of way.

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sagehen  Mar 28, 2019 • 11:48:11pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

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Pete Buttigieg thinks Democrats are too reliant on identity politics.

He says this in an interview with the local, low-power public radio station that serves the district where Harvey Milk was assassinated for having the nerve to think gay guys should have the same civil rights as anyone else. That gay guys should be able to run for public office. (Harvey died 5 years before Pete was born).

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 29, 2019 • 12:08:38am

John Lee Hooker & Canned Heat - Whiskey & Wimmen’ [HQ]

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 29, 2019 • 12:20:38am

I can’t not tap my foot to boogie.

John Lee Hooker & Canned Heat - Boogie Chillen No. 2

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Dave In Austin  Mar 29, 2019 • 12:37:39am
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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 29, 2019 • 12:43:25am

re: #29 Dave In Austin

I have a hard time getting over a half gram a day.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 29, 2019 • 12:45:51am

Randall Knife - from Guy Clark’s 70th Birthday Concert

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 29, 2019 • 12:46:39am

re: #26 sagehen

Pete Buttigieg thinks Democrats are too reliant on identity politics.

He says this in an interview with the local, low-power public radio station that serves the district where Harvey Milk was assassinated for having the nerve to think gay guys should have the same civil rights as anyone else. (Harvey died 5 years before Pete was born).

I don’t know exactly what to make of Pete. He’s clearly whip smart and even though I don’t think he can win, yet, I’m very glad he’s in the race just because it expands the idea of who can run in a necessary direction. But stuff like this feels like Stockholm Syndrome, as if he knows his fortunes are held hostage to a particular electorate that he is acutely aware supports him only so far, and that while they tolerate or even celebrate his gayness the real architectural structure underpinning that support depends on pillars marked White, Male, and Christian. I also suspect that his exceptional biography, his Rhodes scholarship and veteran status are politically necessary to counterbalance and cantilever the public perception of his sexual preference.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 29, 2019 • 12:47:41am

re: #30 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

I have a hard time getting over a half gram a day.

I’ve got a pic of me back in the day that looks very similar. My hair was longer and my eyes were bleeding out of my head.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2019 • 12:48:33am

So, the Bristol Museum and Art Gallery is exhibiting a work by Banksy, the internationally-renowned graffiti artist, entitled “Parliament of Chimps”.

And holy shit, I had no idea he was such a damned good artist.

dailymail.co.uk

Parliament of Chimps by Banksy
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Dave In Austin  Mar 29, 2019 • 12:51:42am

re: #33 Dave In Austin

I’ve got a pic of me back in the day that looks very similar. My hair was longer and my eyes were bleeding out of my head.

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Teukka  Mar 29, 2019 • 12:55:21am

re: #25 Dr Lizardo

HBO has a new miniseries coming up.

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Video

Looks good in a terrifying sort of way.

Yep. Looks like “Surviving Disaster: Chernobyl”, but without any fucking nerfing at all… My kind of nightmare fuel :D

Chernobyl - Surviving Disaster

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 29, 2019 • 2:01:49am

20 minutes apart…

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2019 • 2:21:07am

re: #37 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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20 minutes apart…

That’s gotta be some kind of record.

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unproven innocence  Mar 29, 2019 • 2:27:50am

OT - public service announcement ( ht bleepingcomputer[dot]com )
Vigilantes Counter Christchurch Manifesto with Weaponized Version
By Ionut Ilascu - March 28, 2019 10:49 AM
Intro:

A modified version of the Christchurch shooter manifesto circulating online includes a payload that overwrites the master boot record in Windows to show a custom message upon system reboot.

Modifying the master boot record (MBR), which contains details about available partitions and helps load the operating system, allows the malicious payload to start immediately when the computer boots, even before the operating system is started.

It is suspected that this weaponized version of the manifesto is being distributed as a vigilante attack against those who want to download the original document and to halt its spread.
Old-school approach

Researchers at network protection company Blue Hexagon discovered a file that pretends to be the original 74-page manifesto of the Christchurch shooter, but has been altered to include a malicious payload.

Hidden inside the modified document is a VBA script downloads a binary payload. The code is obfuscated, which makes it more difficult to determine its intention.

In layman’s terms, there are now versions of the manifesto available for download that include extra stuff that will mess over your PC(s) in really bad ways.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 29, 2019 • 2:35:51am

I used to enjoy waking up to find that about 1/3 of twitters Worldwide Trends were from Japan. In the last couple of weeks there have been none. I’m wondering if twitter is sectioning off its WW Trends by region.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 29, 2019 • 3:15:11am

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

Yeah, that “real America” b.s. should have disappeared with Sarah Palin. So I’m an elitist because I live in Maryland along the east coast? Really dude?

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 29, 2019 • 3:17:54am

re: #35 Dave In Austin

You look like a rockstar.

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Teukka  Mar 29, 2019 • 3:20:48am

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

That’s gotta be some kind of record.

Admin is being seen as lepers, or is it the GOP as well?

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2019 • 4:15:29am

So, I was out shopping at a nearby supermarket…..I’m standing in the checkout line, and a woman comes in behind me. And she looks exactly like the “weird fuckin’ cat” from that meme video by Michael Rappaport.

I had to bite my lip to keep from bursting into laughter: I could hear Rappaport’s voice saying, “It…..it looks like grandma!”

A crazy looking cat at his mom’s house!” 🐱😳😂

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dirkdigglerjr  Mar 29, 2019 • 4:15:58am

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

Scientists are referring to her “tenure” in nano-Scaramuccis.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2019 • 4:30:52am

So, Rammstein dropped a new vid last night, and it’s…..well, it’s Rammstein, what more can be said?

Their new single, “Deutschland”.

Might be NSFW, so in private tag.

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Weaselone  Mar 29, 2019 • 4:43:15am

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

I haven’t had the opportunity to review what was said, but would I be wrong if I assumed that Buttigieg never uttered the phrase “coastal elite”, didn’t expound for more than 60 seconds on the topic and only did so in response to a leading question in which coastal elitism was presumed?

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 29, 2019 • 4:45:55am

re: #37 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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20 minutes apart…

So they oppose her because she’s too liberal? Pro-abortion rights and against Alito? Both the Department of Justice and the judiciary are being perverted by the evil that is the Republican Party.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 29, 2019 • 4:47:02am
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 29, 2019 • 4:56:00am

re: #47 Weaselone

I haven’t had the opportunity to review what was said, but would I be wrong if I assumed that Buttigieg never uttered the phrase “coastal elite”, didn’t expound for more than 60 seconds on the topic and only did so in response to a leading question in which coastal elitism was presumed?

I’ve never heard him say “coastal elites” before, but he does consistently use his experience as the mayor of a rust-belt city with a diverse population to tout his unique perspective on leadership among Dem candidates. As a New Englander, I’m not offended (mainly because I’m a transplant from the midwest).

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2019 • 5:12:42am

re: #46 Dr Lizardo

I should have added that this will probably be remembered as one of Rammstein’s most controversial videos.

I could hear heads exploding as I was watching it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 29, 2019 • 5:13:40am

re: #50 Barefoot Grin

I’ve never heard him say “coastal elites” before, but he does consistently use his experience as the mayor of a rust-belt city with a diverse population to tout his unique perspective on leadership among Dem candidates. As a New Englander, I’m not offended (mainly because I’m a transplant from the midwest).

His real drawbacks? Too young, too intellectual, and for Democratic voters, too thin a resume. Mayor of South Bend is not the same as mayor of New York. I’m not sure how much his being gay would hurt him, except among voters who aren’t voting for “Demonrats” anyway.

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jeffreyw  Mar 29, 2019 • 5:28:57am

Good morning!

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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 5:28:59am
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steve_davis  Mar 29, 2019 • 5:30:03am

re: #21 Joe Bacon 🌹

The only good thing about Tulsi is that she, Mayor Pete and Pulpit Pimp Marianne Williamson will pull primary votes away from Bernie.

yes, but then the Gabbardings and Mayor Petophiles will insist on launching their flying monkeys at whoever wins the primary.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2019 • 5:30:32am

Here’s the latest episode of Monty Python’s Flying Circus Brexit:

theguardian.com

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lizardofid  Mar 29, 2019 • 5:32:27am

re: #53 jeffreyw

Coming in hot!

Good morning.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 29, 2019 • 5:37:26am

re: #53 jeffreyw

WowZa!! Great catch!!

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Dave In Austin  Mar 29, 2019 • 5:39:22am

re: #54 MsJ

I’m assuming Paterson NJ? That wouldn’t surprise me.

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steve_davis  Mar 29, 2019 • 5:41:36am

re: #50 Barefoot Grin

I’ve never heard him say “coastal elites” before, but he does consistently use his experience as the mayor of a rust-belt city with a diverse population to tout his unique perspective on leadership among Dem candidates. As a New Englander, I’m not offended (mainly because I’m a transplant from the midwest).

I’ve traveled through both Indiana and Vermont. If I had to make a choice between the two, I’ll take the coastal elites over the Walking Fucking Dead eaten-out rustbelt with its spooky-assed evangelical fervor any damned day.

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2019 • 5:43:21am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2019 • 5:44:19am

re: #60 steve_davis

I’ve traveled through both Indiana and Vermont. If I had to make a choice between the two, I’ll take the coastal elites over the Walking Fucking Dead eaten-out rustbelt with its spooky-assed evangelical fervor any damned day.

I grew up in rust belt Indiana and would not go back and live there if you paid me to

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2019 • 5:49:02am

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

I would like someone to ask these people if they took a person from San Francisco and someone from South Bend, Indiana, and asked them what they worry about and need, what would be different. I’m pretty sure most of it would be, politics aside, the need to feed their children, keep them safe, and get them an education; to be able to have a stable job; and a chance to have some fun every now and then because money wouldn’t be that tight.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2019 • 5:55:27am

re: #63 Belafon

I would like someone to ask these people if they took a person from San Francisco and someone from South Bend, Indiana, and asked them what they worry about and need, what would be different. I’m pretty sure most of it would be, politics aside, the need to feed their children, keep them safe, and get them an education; to be able to have a stable job; and a chance to have some fun every now and then because money wouldn’t be that tight.

A lot of generalization going on here…and an awful lot of those “coastal elites”, especially on the West Coast, are people who arrived there from somewhere else in America…

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jeffreyw  Mar 29, 2019 • 6:01:33am

re: #57 lizardofid

re: #59 Dave In Austin

Look! Up there in the sky! It’s Torpedo Bird!

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 29, 2019 • 6:07:39am

re: #60 steve_davis

I’ve traveled through both Indiana and Vermont. If I had to make a choice between the two, I’ll take the coastal elites over the Walking Fucking Dead eaten-out rustbelt with its spooky-assed evangelical fervor any damned day.

I don’t think I’d want to live again in Indiana unless it were Bloomington or certain vibrant Indy neighborhoods. I took a summer course in Richmond, IN at Earlham College (super liberal) and the town/gown contrast was stark. I was jogging through a poorer neighborhood one day when a kid yelled at me “whatcha running from?” (I don’t think he meant it as an existential or metaphysical question.) But rural Vermont is pretty fucking rural in places!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2019 • 6:09:32am

re: #66 Barefoot Grin

I don’t think I’d want to live again in Indiana unless it were Bloomington or certain vibrant Indy neighborhoods. I took a summer course in Richmond, IN at Earlham College (super liberal) and the town/gown contrast was stark. I was jogging through a poorer neighborhood one day when a kid yelled at me “whatcha running from?” (I don’t think he meant it as an existential or metaphysical question.) But rural Vermont is pretty fucking rural in places!

I attended school in Bloomington and I guess that Indianapolis has grown big enough to have some life and culture. But of six siblings, only one remained anywhere near Gary (in Valparaiso, a little university town about 30 miles southeast)

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2019 • 6:13:21am

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

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My mind immediately jumped to cultural stuff, which would’ve been ironic (of course, its impressive that an openly gay man was elected mayor in a mid-sized Indiana town. Sure, its a college town, but the college is a private Catholic University). But he’s actually talking about economic policy which did result in the loss of a lot of manufacturing jobs, so I think he’s got a point.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2019 • 6:15:29am

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

Fuck yes!!! Biden should fire every one of this advisors who advocated for this terrible idea and then decided to shop it around in public before seeking Abrams’ permission.

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That wasn’t a very good way to kick off your presidential campaign. Biden is supposed to be the “electable” candidate, but he has a long public record that can be used against him like Clinton’s was, and he has a habit of shooting himself in the foot and being tone deaf on racial and gender issues.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 29, 2019 • 6:17:44am
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 29, 2019 • 6:18:23am

re: #69 NO SMOCKING GUN!

That wasn’t a very good way to kick off your presidential campaign. Biden is supposed to be the “electable” candidate, but he has a long public record that can be used against him like Clinton’s was, and he has a habit of shooting himself in the foot and being tone deaf on racial and gender issues.

A characteristic he shares with the “progressive left” Bernie, though the Bernie cult would never recognize this.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2019 • 6:22:38am

re: #25 Dr Lizardo

HBO has a new miniseries coming up.

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Video

Looks good in a terrifying sort of way.

Stephen King couldn’t write a more terrifying story.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 29, 2019 • 6:24:01am

re: #67 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I attended school in Bloomington and I guess that Indianapolis has grown big enough to have some life and culture. But of six siblings, only one remained anywhere near Gary (in Valparaiso, a little university town about 30 miles southeast)

I taught high school in Tippecanoe County (Lafayette/West Lafayette). That wasn’t a terrible experience, but it’s still not Bloomington.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2019 • 6:26:56am

re: #36 Teukka

Yep. Looks like “Surviving Disaster: Chernobyl”, but without any fucking nerfing at all… My kind of nightmare fuel :D

[Embedded content]

Video

And the problem is we are going to need nuclear power at least for awhile because its carbon neutral.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2019 • 6:29:52am

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

That’s gotta be some kind of record.

Someone calculate that in Scaramuccis!

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2019 • 6:30:46am

re: #72 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Indeed.

Real-life events like the Chernobyl disaster are often what inspire sci-fi or horror authors to write their stories.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2019 • 6:37:18am

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I grew up in rust belt Indiana and would not go back and live there if you paid me to

Back in the eighties I drove up to South Bend for a job interview. The roads were so pot holed it was a jarring experience.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2019 • 6:44:06am

Off to work and then it’s the weekend.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2019 • 6:47:06am

I hear a very interesting segment on Make It Plain (a radio show on Progessive Radio on Sirius) this morning. The reason for the timing of the release of the Tucker Carlson statements on the Love Sponge Show is that Fox News was having a meeting with corporate sponsors because it needed to sell 70% of its advertising time for 2020 to ensure enough revenue to prevent a shareholders lawsuit (Tucker Carlson has dropped from 32 to 9 paying advertisers). This is also why they had to suspend Pirro. Progressives are trying to push Fox News deep into a wedge between a rock and a hard place, that being that advertisers don’t want to support white nationalist propaganda, but if Fox News eases back on it they will face a backlash from their white nationalist viewing audience.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 29, 2019 • 6:49:43am

On the coastal elitism stuff…who are the ones claiming that they, and they alone, represent “real” America? Who are the ones that lay claim to have superior moral values?

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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 6:50:31am

re: #79 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I hear a very interesting segment on Make It Plain (a radio show on Progessive Radio on Sirius) this morning. The reason for the timing of the release of the Tucker Carlson statements on the Love Sponge Show is that Fox News was having a meeting with corporate sponsors because it needed to sell 70% of its advertising time for 2020 to ensure enough revenue to prevent a shareholders lawsuit (Tucker Carlson has dropped from 32 to 9 paying advertisers). This is also why they had to suspend Pirro. Progressives are trying to push Fox News deep into a wedge between a rock and a hard place, that being that advertisers don’t want to support white nationalist propaganda, but if Fox News eases back on it they will face a backlash from their white nationalist viewing audience.

I like MIP. I used to listen to them a lot.

And I love this rock and hard place Fox has put itself into. I hope it dies a horrible death. The US can never be America again with the likes of Fox. The rest (even Rush) are noise; none have the reach that Fox bullshit does.

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makeitstop  Mar 29, 2019 • 6:57:24am

re: #46 Dr Lizardo

So, Rammstein dropped a new vid last night, and it’s…..well, it’s Rammstein, what more can be said?

Their new single, “Deutschland”.

Might be NSFW, so in private tag.

[Embedded content]

I’m not sure what they’re getting at (rusty German and all), but that was a fuckin’ epic video.

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2019 • 6:59:26am

re: #80 Mike Lamb

On the coastal elitism stuff…who are the ones claiming that they, and they alone, represent “real” America? Who are the ones that lay claim to have superior moral values?

More than 1 out of every 3 Americans can trace their immigration to the US as passing through NYC. Think about that a moment. Millions passed through NYC, settled in NYC metro, before heading elsewhere in the nation. It’s not like the white folks in Nebraska sprang up there without coming from somewhere else.

The whole notion of coastal elites is bunk. It’s an effort to claim that rugged individualism and frontier folk are more like the American ideal than someone living in NYC metro or Miami or Boston. More people live in urban areas - because that’s where the jobs are. And this is accelerating.

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ObserverArt  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:00:43am

re: #53 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

Morning!

Nice image Jeffrey. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a bird in mid-air with no wings or legs out.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:04:11am

re: #83 lawhawk

More than 1 out of every 3 Americans can trace their immigration to the US as passing through NYC. Think about that a moment. Millions passed through NYC, settled in NYC metro, before heading elsewhere in the nation. It’s not like the white folks in Nebraska sprang up there without coming from somewhere else.

The whole notion of coastal elites is bunk. It’s an effort to claim that rugged individualism and frontier folk are more like the American ideal than someone living in NYC metro or Miami or Boston. More people live in urban areas - because that’s where the jobs are. And this is accelerating.

Giving Mayor Pete the benefit of the doubt, I think that’s his point; the Midwest needs jobs as well.

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ObserverArt  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:12:17am

re: #64 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A lot of generalization going on here…and an awful lot of those “coastal elites”, especially on the West Coast, are people who arrived there from somewhere else in America…

It is not about Red States or Blue States, it is about the United States.

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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:15:02am

re: #86 ObserverArt

It is not about Red States or Blue States, it is about the United States.

Unless you’re a republican.

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:16:02am

re: #86 ObserverArt

It is not about Red States or Blue States, it is about the United States.

Well, as someone who grew up in West Texas (which to be fair, is a whole other country), I wish the discussion would be geared towards people having the same basic problems, jobs, food, health care.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:16:13am

re: #83 lawhawk

More than 1 out of every 3 Americans can trace their immigration to the US as passing through NYC. Think about that a moment. Millions passed through NYC, settled in NYC metro, before heading elsewhere in the nation. It’s not like the white folks in Nebraska sprang up there without coming from somewhere else.

Then they settled in the South or Midwest before relocating to the West Coast…

The other issue is that densely populated areas make it easier for people to change jobs or even careers as the economy evolves. That looks a lot different in rural areas where there are only a few industries or employers in the region.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:16:50am

I’m kinda thinking the Mueller report says there’s no “official/direct” collusion with the Russian government. But lots with everyone with connections.

We probably won’t know for another 50 years.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:17:56am

re: #77 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Back in the eighties I drove up to South Bend for a job interview. The roads were so pot holed it was a jarring experience.

Sounds like my block in Chicago. heh

Still. I would never live in Indiana by choice. NO. WAY.

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ObserverArt  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:18:07am

re: #80 Mike Lamb

On the coastal elitism stuff…who are the ones claiming that they, and they alone, represent “real” America? Who are the ones that lay claim to have superior moral values?

I look at it this way. There are plenty of assholes on the coasts too. Nunes and McCarthy are coastals and who the hell do they represent?

Florida is coastal as all get out but look at its politics. Who the hell do the nutty Republicans in that state represent?

I’m sick of this coastal, flyover country bullshit. It is stupid and all it does is feed dangerous, split thinking.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:20:04am

re: #75 NO SMOCKING GUN!

0.69% (nice!) of one Scaramucci.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:22:35am

re: #93 Sufficient unto the day…

0.69% (nice!) of one Scaramucci.

Well done!

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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:22:38am

re: #88 Belafon

Well, as someone who grew up in West Texas (which to be fair, is a whole other country), I wish the discussion would be geared towards people having the same basic problems, jobs, food, health care.

That doesn’t serve republican needs to divide and conquer.

The problem with areas other than those in or adjacent to a metropolis is that there is not enough of a potential employee pool to satisfy the kinds of jobs we see growth in. Manufacturing is dying (which Republicans are all for) and not everyone can do something related to tech. Retail is dying, it’s just too expensive to maintain facilities for most retailers, especially those where people want to browse and then buy online.

Jobs are never going to go to smaller areas, the talent pool ensures that. Coupled with people who may barely finish high school and it’s just not happening.

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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:23:27am

re: #90 GlutenFreeJesus

I’m kinda thinking the Mueller report says there’s no “official/direct” collusion with the Russian government. But lots with everyone with connections.

We probably won’t know for another 50 years.

I’d be betting on a leak somewhere. A Deep Throat kind of leak.

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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:25:40am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:26:00am

re: #95 MsJ

Jobs are never going to go to smaller areas, the talent pool ensures that. Coupled with people who may barely finish high school and it’s just not happening.

Which is why they have such a sentimental yearning for coal mining: work that can be done by people with minimal education and training in rural areas…

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sagehen  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:27:00am

re: #83 lawhawk

The whole notion of coastal elites is bunk. It’s an effort to claim that rugged individualism and frontier folk are more like the American ideal than someone living in NYC metro or Miami or Boston. More people live in urban areas - because that’s where the jobs are. And this is accelerating.

ah yes. The rugged individualist frontier folk whose great-grandparents got 160 acres for free from the federal government, before that same federal government sent troops to remove the people who used to live on that land, and built railroads so the rugged individualists could get their crops to market. Those rugged individualists.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:28:23am

re: #97 MsJ

Source says RNC and America First are prepared to attack reporters. “Any reporter who tries [to attack Trump] will be hit with 30-second spots of all their ridiculous claims about collusion. Their tweets have all been screencapped. It’s all ready to go.”

and this is the amazingly assymetrical aspect of Trump: you could produce a 30-minute spot of all his lies, boasts, threats, ridiculous and unfounded claims, and crude utterances and it would have little effect on anything.

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:28:28am

re: #97 MsJ

Considering the majority of the country doesn’t believe Barr’s summary and even more want the Mueller report released, where are they getting the idea those commercials would be useful?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:28:56am

re: #101 Belafon

Considering the majority of the country doesn’t believe Barr’s summary and even more want the Mueller report released, where are they getting the idea those commercials would be useful?

see post above

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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:30:31am

re: #101 Belafon

Considering the majority of the country doesn’t believe Barr’s summary and even more want the Mueller report released, where are they getting the idea those commercials would be useful?

They’re republicans. Ideas are not their thing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:31:12am

Fox News doing what Fox News does…

Because of course HALF of Americans are perfectly able to give their thoughts on a report that NO ONE HAS FUCKING SEEN YET!

And this is the TOP story on the Google News subsection about the Mueller Report right now. ARRGH.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:32:38am

re: #101 Belafon

Considering the majority of the country doesn’t believe Barr’s summary and even more want the Mueller report released, where are they getting the idea those commercials would be useful?

Trump thinks he won a great victory in 2016 (he actually won on a fluke) so he’s convinced that catering to his base in the crudest way possible is a great strategy.

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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:35:20am

Troll house! LOL

(and yes, this milk in the packaging thing is a joke)

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plansbandc  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:36:02am

re: #53 jeffreyw

Pretty dive bomber!

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ObserverArt  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:36:40am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and this is the amazingly assymetrical aspect of Trump: you could produce a 30-minute spot of all his lies, boasts, threats, ridiculous and unfounded claims, and crude utterances and it would have little effect on anything.

And so too are the RNC commercials. All this crap does is feed the people already Trumpers and piss off those that are not.

In my opinion this is just immature tit for tat bullshit that junior high kids might pull in a school student government.

Trump has really lowered the political trappings of this country. Everyone in the sewers…

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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:36:56am
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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:38:07am

re: #105 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Trump thinks he won a great victory in 2016 (he actually won on a fluke) so he’s convinced that catering to his base in the crudest way possible is a great strategy.

I understand trump…it is the GOP and long time elected officials jumping on board that baffles me.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:39:53am

re: #110 MsJ

I understand trump…it is the GOP and long time elected officials jumping on board that baffles me.

They’re opportunists. Coat tails are visible so why not ride them for all they’re worth?

It’s just a money and power game.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:41:11am

re: #110 MsJ

I understand trump…it is the GOP and long time elected officials jumping on board that baffles me.

Doesn’t baffle me.

Putin has Kompromat on them.

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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:42:13am
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Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:43:09am

re: #99 sagehen

ah yes. The rugged individualist frontier folk whose great-grandparents got 160 acres for free from the federal government, before that same federal government sent troops to remove the people who used to live on that land, and built railroads so the rugged individualists could get their crops to market. Those rugged individualists.

But that wasn’t socialism!!!
////

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:44:15am

re: #106 MsJ

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Troll house! LOL

(and yes, this milk in the packaging thing is a joke)

it has to do with those bread-sliced bagels in St. Louis yesterday morning

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:46:21am

re: #113 MsJ

You boarded a plane and got seated beside man in a MAGA hat, who
started praising Trump.

what would you do?

ask him where his hat was made

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:46:25am

jeebus

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:46:30am

re: #54 MsJ

Paterson’s in our veritable backyard. And that is just the latest issues they’ve had with their police force. The city has been dealing with a financial crisis for years, and that included deep cuts to the police force, and then hiring back a bunch of people more recently. The arrests of the cops for the hospital assault kicked over a bunch of other criminal misconduct by Paterson cops.

At the same time, there were other Paterson cops arrested for illegal traffic stops to shake down people and who also stole money and drugs. One of the arrested cops admitted to stealing heroin, cocaine, crack, and pot from crime scenes to resell them later.

Another cop pleaded to stopping motorists who they thought were carrying large amounts of money to shake them down for cash (how they knew who to pull over is up for debate, but Paterson has several major highways, including Interstate 80, Routes 46, 21, 19, and 20 running through it).

It appears all these cops were in same same training class at the police academy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:48:16am

re: #118 lawhawk


It appears all these cops were in same same training class at the police academy.

There’s a movie plot right there

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danarchy  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:48:33am

re: #37 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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20 minutes apart…

So those are two different things no? She withdrew from consideration as associate AG(She was nominated at the beginning of the month) and it looks like this is Barr giving her a consolation prize. Apparently he and Mike Lee got into a shouting match over them blocking her nomination in the senate.

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:49:33am

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

“If you or a loved one died in Vietnam…”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:51:06am

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

[Embedded content]

“Thank you for your service to our great nation…and for not getting bone spurs.”

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sagehen  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:51:13am

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

it has to do with those bread-sliced bagels in St. Louis yesterday morning

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:53:15am

re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg

Fox News doing what Fox News does…

[Embedded content]

Because of course HALF of Americans are perfectly able to give their thoughts on a report that NO ONE HAS FUCKING SEEN YET!

And this is the TOP story on the Google News subsection about the Mueller Report right now. ARRGH.

No one has actually seen or read the goddamned Mueller report, including apparently Barr or Trump. Had they read the whole thing, it would be clear that Trump wasn’t vindicated especially as relating to obstruction of justice (an impeachable offense) - as Barr’s “summary” concedes.

No one knows the full contents, let alone what it found re: coordinating efforts with Russia, improper contacts, etc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:53:38am
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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:54:33am

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

We’re so fucked.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:54:44am

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

On this Vietnam War Veterans Day, we celebrate the brave Vietnam Veterans and all of America’s Veterans. Thank you for your service to our great Nation!

Tell us about your own personal Vietnam, Donny…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:56:34am

re: #123 sagehen

it has to do with those bread-sliced bagels in St. Louis yesterday morning

If you are going to be serving them at work or at a pot luck, I can understand the concept of bread-sliced bagels. But I would never do so at home.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:57:34am
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wrenchwench  Mar 29, 2019 • 7:59:02am

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

[…we celebrate the brave Vietnam Veterans …]

He can tweet that now that McCain is no longer with us.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:00:40am

re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

Parliament called her bluff. Buh-bye, PM May.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:01:24am

Meanwhile in a UK located in a galaxy far far away…

Robot Chicken: This Deal’s Getting Worse All The Time

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:01:52am
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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:02:19am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:02:37am

re: #130 wrenchwench

He can tweet that now that McCain is no longer with us.

And I guess nobody told him that Obama established this particular day of recognition.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:04:26am

re: #134 MsJ

If I were a gambling man, I’d buy up some pounds now.

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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:07:22am

re: #136 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

If I were a gambling man, I’d buy up some pounds now.

you have faith they will fix this situation?

I don’t.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:08:05am

re: #137 MsJ

you have faith they will fix this situation?

I don’t.

It’s why I stated it as a hypothetical

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:08:20am

re: #136 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

If I were a gambling man, I’d buy up some pounds now.

I will wait until they reach parity with the dollar…

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:09:35am

re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I will wait until they reach parity with the dollar…

Any day now

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:12:06am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:13:18am

Jim Carrey’s latest Trump cartoon (in private tags because NSFW)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:16:10am

Theresa May needs to get the hell out of the way and let someone else take over. I just can’t believe how clusterfucked this has become.

Are there any functioning adults left in the UK Parliament?

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:17:48am

re: #143 Eclectic Cyborg

Theresa May needs to get the hell out of the way and let someone else take over. I just can’t believe how clusterfucked this has become.

Are there any functioning adults left in the UK Parliament?

She pledged to step down if this vote did not go her way. We shall see.

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:19:39am

re: #143 Eclectic Cyborg

Theresa May needs to get the hell out of the way and let someone else take over. I just can’t believe how clusterfucked this has become.

Are there any functioning adults left in the UK Parliament?

No.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:19:49am

re: #143 Eclectic Cyborg

Theresa May needs to get the hell out of the way and let someone else take over. I just can’t believe how clusterfucked this has become.

Are there any functioning adults left in the UK Parliament?

Game theory in action. Individuals acting in their own perceived short-term interest totally scuppering any long-term benefits.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:21:23am
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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:22:12am

re: #144 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

She pledged to step down if this vote did not go her way. We shall see.

No, she pledged to step down if the vote DID go her way.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:25:42am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:27:57am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:30:59am

re: #148 MsJ

No, she pledged to step down if the vote DID go her way.

More’s the pity

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danarchy  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:31:05am

re: #144 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

She pledged to step down if this vote did not go her way. We shall see.

I thought she pledged to step down if they did vote for it? Apparently because she is so bad it sweetened the deal.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:31:40am
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ObserverArt  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:31:55am

re: #116 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

ask him where his hat was made

Hey, hey, hey…if China is going to help Trump make America Great Again, then I bet the Trumper base will be just fine with it. Whatever Trump says and does, whatever it takes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:34:39am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:37:06am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:37:32am

Parliament is going to be voting again on Monday on the options that failed by the lowest margins, such as a customs union with the EU or a second vote. if they can’t agree on anything, it looks likely the UK will crash out of the EU on April 12, because the EU isn’t going to approve a long extension which will require the UK to participate in EU elections unless the UK has a plan going forward. Also May wants to try for a fourth vote on her plan, even though the DUP is unalterably opposed, and Labour is enjoying watching her twist in the wind.

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:38:24am

Someone should announce that they’re going to have a vote to revoke Article 50 and that they will revisit it at a future date.

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steve_davis  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:38:44am

re: #66 Barefoot Grin

I don’t think I’d want to live again in Indiana unless it were Bloomington or certain vibrant Indy neighborhoods. I took a summer course in Richmond, IN at Earlham College (super liberal) and the town/gown contrast was stark. I was jogging through a poorer neighborhood one day when a kid yelled at me “whatcha running from?” (I don’t think he meant it as an existential or metaphysical question.) But rural Vermont is pretty fucking rural in places!

When I went to Vermont this past summer, I had to find a gas station with garmin out in the middle of the Green Mountain national forest. Finally wound up at one of those stations that apparently only exist in the northeast, with one of the weird names. Somebody I thought had gotten bought out by Exxon back in the late 70’s. “I love your state,” I said to the guy inside. I told him there was something slightly different about the way the farms were laid out that I found really lovely. He pointed out that the farms I’m used to, in upstate Pennsylvania, were laid out by the British, whereas, the farms in Vermont were all laid out by the French, and they just do things a little differently. Then, when I told him I was up for Bread Loaf as a poet, the son of a gun quoted a stanza from Kinell’s “The Bear.” Maybe he’d just had that thing tucked away since high school, and brought it out on all occasions. Or, maybe he was Galway Kinell, having faked his own death so that he could finally do what he’d always wanted to do—run a little gas station out in the middle of fucking nowhere in Vermont.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:40:07am

re: #158 Belafon

Someone should announce that they’re going to have a vote to revoke Article 50 and that they will revisit it at a future date.

That might have been one of the options that failed this week.

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freetoken  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:40:17am

re: #148 MsJ

No, she pledged to step down if the vote DID go her way.

And even that didn’t work.

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ObserverArt  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:40:42am

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

And I guess nobody told him that Obama established this particular day of recognition.

Shhh. Don’t make that common knowledge or Trump will sign an EO to stop Obama’s declaration and change it to Trump’s Day for Recognition of Vietnam Veterans.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:42:37am

moron needs to get taken out to the golf course…

(it’s taking a while for him to write the next tweet..)

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:44:57am

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

If he closes the border, it will hurt US border states as much as Mexico. Probably more. Mexico has other trade partners, after all.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:50:55am

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron needs to get taken out to the golf course…

[Embedded content]

(it’s taking a while for him to write the next tweet..)

If he was stupid enough to actually close the border, the economic devastation would be so bad even Texas might go blue.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:52:15am

re: #164 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

If he closes the border, it will hurt US border states as much as Mexico. Probably more. Mexico has other trade partners, after all.

Don’t kid yourself; it would hurt the entire economy. There would be massive layoffs at plants dependent on Mexican parts.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:53:40am

re: #166 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Don’t kid yourself; it would hurt the entire economy. There would be massive layoffs at plants dependent on Mexican parts.

True, and he would still do it, because he gives fuck-all about anything but his damned wall.

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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:55:29am

You’re kidding me!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2019 • 8:57:08am

re: #168 MsJ

If she lost again, she’d have to request a long extension - and then potentially call a general election?

Long Extension means UK would have to participate in the upcoming EU elections, which would be a total farce.

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:00:34am

Who would have thought the British would be OK with the Pound valuing around the Peso.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:00:58am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Long Extension means UK would have to participate in the upcoming EU elections, which would be a total farce.

No way the EU would go for that. No effing way.

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Kilroy was here  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:01:38am

NSE

Theresa May: An Obituary

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:03:38am

FUN FACT: At the Detroit/Windsor border, Canada is DUE SOUTH of the United States.

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ObserverArt  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:05:17am

Posting just because her smile makes me smile. Saw this reading about the Columbus Blue Jackets important win last night. They are fighting to get into the playoffs in the tough Metro Division.

And I need some smiles.

I feel for all the kids at Nationwide Children’s Hospital. Seeing one smile can brighten a day.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:07:29am

re: #159 steve_davis

When I went to Vermont this past summer, I had to find a gas station with garmin out in the middle of the Green Mountain national forest. Finally wound up at one of those stations that apparently only exist in the northeast, with one of the weird names. Somebody I thought had gotten bought out by Exxon back in the late 70’s. “I love your state,” I said to the guy inside. I told him there was something slightly different about the way the farms were laid out that I found really lovely. He pointed out that the farms I’m used to, in upstate Pennsylvania, were laid out by the British, whereas, the farms in Vermont were all laid out by the French, and they just do things a little differently. Then, when I told him I was up for Bread Loaf as a poet, the son of a gun quoted a stanza from Kinell’s “The Bear.” Maybe he’d just had that thing tucked away since high school, and brought it out on all occasions. Or, maybe he was Galway Kinell, having faked his own death so that he could finally do what he’d always wanted to do—run a little gas station out in the middle of fucking nowhere in Vermont.

Great story!

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:15:43am

This is a War Crimes Administration.

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freetoken  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:19:24am
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plansbandc  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:20:38am

re: #177 freetoken

That is disturbing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:21:23am

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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:21:45am

re: #161 freetoken

And even that didn’t work.

Worked for her. She’s still there and nothing is happening.

She got more votes For this time because she promised to go away and Mogg and Johnson are having delusions of Prime Ministership floating through their tiny monkey brains,

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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:22:50am

re: #164 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

If he closes the border, it will hurt US border states as much as Mexico. Probably more. Mexico has other trade partners, after all.

China went to Mexico…the Mexican economy is expected to surpass the US in 2020 (something I saw yesterday). WTG, Republicans.

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Danack  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:23:30am

re: #34 Dr Lizardo

So, the Bristol Museum and Art Gallery is exhibiting a work by Banksy,

That’s about 100 meters from my home……I should probably go have a look at it, before inevitably going to their mineral collection again and lusting over some of the specimens they have there

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:23:41am

re: #181 MsJ

China went to Mexico…the Mexican economy is expected to surpass the US in 2020 (something I saw yesterday). WTG, Republicans.

It’s expected to have better growth in 2020.

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danarchy  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:27:12am

re: #181 MsJ

China went to Mexico…the Mexican economy is expected to surpass the US in 2020 (something I saw yesterday). WTG, Republicans.

Huh? Mexico’s GDP is a fraction of the US GDP. Do you mean their growth will surpass our growth?

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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:30:26am

re: #184 danarchy

Huh? Mexico’s GDP is a fraction of the US GDP. Do you mean their growth will surpass our growth?

My bad. See Belafon’s note above.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:31:16am

re: #171 Eclectic Cyborg

No way the EU would go for that. No effing way.

They will, IF the UK has a plan going forward, like a customs Union with the EU. A hard Brexit would be bad for them as well.

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gocart mozart  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:32:10am

Billy Bragg & Wilco - All You Fascists

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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:33:00am

Where’s my puking gif? I know it is here somewhere.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:34:44am

re: #188 MsJ

Where’s my puking gif? I know it is here somewhere.

[Embedded content]

Its hard to run for President from prison, where they both should end up.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:40:16am

re: #188 MsJ

Where’s my puking gif? I know it is here somewhere.

[Embedded content]

You can use mine.

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Teukka  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:47:01am
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gocart mozart  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:48:49am
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sagehen  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:48:55am

re: #189 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Its hard to run for President from prison, where they both should end up.

Eugene Debs did; he got 6% of the popular vote in 1912.

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William Lewis  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:53:22am

1912. That was a messed up election.
Taft, Debbs, Teddy & Wilson all splitting the vote and we ended up with the worst possible winner as a result with only 41.8% of the popular vote.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:53:41am
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Teukka  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:02:49am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:07:39am

re: #192 gocart mozart

“You can’t possibly get away with putting something like that on this sculpture!”

“Wanna bet? Hand me that chisel.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:11:39am

re: #197 Eclectic Cyborg

“You can’t possibly get away with putting something like that on this sculpture!”

“Wanna bet? Hand me that chisel.”

I have wonder who sat as model for it…

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:15:16am
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ckkatz  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:16:59am

re: #31 Dave In Austin

[Embedded content]

I’ve not heard that song before. And found it moving. Thanks for posting.

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Teukka  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:19:02am

New word of the day: Incelephant…

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:24:38am

Not gone soon enough: Joe Crowley, the Democrat AOC defeated, is now working for a lobbying firm that promotes GOP plans: dailykos.com.

Now, we just need to get rid of Hoyer.

Edited

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:25:55am

We all know Morning Joe, but I still enjoy this swipe:

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freetoken  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:26:24am

re: #199 lawhawk

The rich benefit from having Trump on top. They do not care if the world burns.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:27:33am

re: #201 Teukka

New word of the day: Incelephant…

not enough updings to give for that one

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:30:23am

re: #202 Belafon

Should say “now working” instead of “not working”. I got confused for a moment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:31:23am

re: #206 Eclectic Cyborg

Should say “now working” instead of “not working”. I got confused for a moment.

you can edit

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freetoken  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:36:11am

The physical anthro folk are having their annual meeting, and one entire session is devoted to Denisovans, and one of the presentations:

Multiple deeply divergent Denisovan ancestries in Papuans

Genome sequences are known for two archaic hominins - Neanderthals and Denisovans - which interbred with anatomically modern humans as they dispersed out of Africa. By excavating archaic haplotypes from 161 new genomes spanning 14 island groups in Island Southeast Asia and Papua, we find large stretches of DNA that are inconsistent with a single introgressing Denisovan origin. Instead, modern Papuans carry hundreds of gene variants from two deeply divergent Denisovan lineages, separated by over 350 thousand years. Geographical structure in these lineages implies introgression from Denisovans living east of the Wallace line and suggests considerable complexity in archaic contact among Papuan groups. A third Denisovan lineage occurs in modern Siberians, Native Americans and East Asians. This regional mosaic suggests that modern humans interbred with multiple Denisovan populations, which were geographically isolated from each other over deep evolutionary time.

The big news was not revealed in the program abstract, but was given in the presentation yesterday:

Our mysterious cousins—the Denisovans—may have mated with modern humans as recently as 15,000 years ago

[…]

In another startling suggestion, the study implies one of those groups may have survived and encountered modern humans as recently as 15,000 to 30,000 years ago, tens of thousands of years later than researchers had thought. […]

While it seems everyone agrees with the idea of multiple populations of Denisovans, there is apparently some skepticism about the very recent extent of their interbreeding with modern humans.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:39:18am

re: #208 freetoken

The physical anthro folk are having their annual meeting, and one entire session is devoted to Denisovans, and one of the presentations:

Multiple deeply divergent Denisovan ancestries in Papuans

The big news was not revealed in the program abstract, but was given in the presentation yesterday:

Our mysterious cousins—the Denisovans—may have mated with modern humans as recently as 15,000 years ago

While it seems everyone agrees with the idea of multiple populations of Denisovans, there is apparently some skepticism about the very recent extent of their interbreeding with modern humans.

We tend to forget that genus homo had many representatives up until relatively recent times

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:39:38am

re: #206 Eclectic Cyborg

Should say “now working” instead of “not working”. I got confused for a moment.

Thanks. Fixed.

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freetoken  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:41:26am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We tend to forget that genus homo had many representatives up until relatively recent times

The question is how recent is recent.

But yes, among the many aspects of reality that some many people may not be aware, or may be in denial, is that the genus Homo had quite a number of populations through a couple of million years, and that many of us evidence hybridization between two or more of them.

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jaunte  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:41:52am

re: #199 lawhawk

But McMahon has also criticized Trump in the past. During a 2016 interview with Yahoo! News, McMahon chastised Trump and then-candidate Ted Cruz for going after each other in personal terms.

“I think the rhetoric has really gone over the top. Some of the comments that have been made, I think, are quite deplorable,” she said. “I would like to see our candidates focus on the issues.”

You can see why the slow purge finally caught her.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:42:49am

re: #211 freetoken

The question is how recent is recent.

tens of thousands of years ago, a blink of an eye in geological/evolutionary time

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wrenchwench  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:44:01am

re: #208 freetoken

…considerable complexity in archaic contact…

Books have been written. More books will be written. Speculation and science have considerable complexity.

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jaunte  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:45:48am
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freetoken  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:46:07am

re: #212 jaunte

Her husband is trying to restart his XFL business, and during the startup press conference Vince McMahon mentioned that he wouldn’t allow players to kneel during the national anthem - this was when that was a hot topic for Trump, and McMahon played into it.

(All of which is ironic because at McMahon’s big shows, like the coming Wrestlemania, McMahon has artists sing America the Beautiful instead of the national anthem because he doesn’t like the latter.)

Anyway, Linda will be needed to help her husband if the XFL does consume a lot of his time. Linda has done this previously, being the top exec at WWE.

So it is in Linda’s self interest to help her husband make untold millions of more dollars.

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ObserverArt  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:47:04am

re: #188 MsJ

Where’s my puking gif? I know it is here somewhere.

[Embedded content]

OH HELL NO!!!

Fuck The Trump Crime Family.

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wrenchwench  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:47:58am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

tens of thousands of years ago, a blink of an eye in geological/evolutionary time

Evolutionary time is a blink of an eye in geological time, IIANM.

/the rates at which eyes blink exhibit much diversity…

//edited to look smrtr

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KGxvi  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:49:12am

re: #199 lawhawk

Allegedly, she was on the list to take over at Commerce if/when Wilbur Ross were to drink from the goblet with iocane powder return to the private sector

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steve_davis  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:52:54am

re: #192 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

because ron jeremy is a vampire and immortal.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:54:29am

re: #208 freetoken

The physical anthro folk are having their annual meeting, and one entire session is devoted to Denisovans, and one of the presentations:

This was my professional association until I went to law school. I was awarded the association’s first-ever award for grad student research accomplishments in 1975. It was named after Aleš Hrdlička. Academic glory days for me, sigh.

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ckkatz  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:54:40am

re: #37 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

[Embedded content]

20 minutes apart…

The Jessie Liu understory is that she is the US Attorney for the District of Columbia. (USAO-DC)

A lot of the Trump associated crimes are being investigated by that office. Barr attempted to move her out of the office by promoting her to the head the Civil Rights Division of DOJ. That action would have allowed Trump to bring in someone else of his choice to supervise the investigation of he and his friends.

I wonder if Senator Lee’s shutting down of this promotion was more due to the above than to her activities of more than a decade ago. Granted he objected to her appointment as US Attorney for DC. But sometimes politics works in strange ways. And, of course, sometimes a cigar is, indeed, just a cigar.

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KGxvi  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:56:19am

re: #216 freetoken

Her husband is trying to restart his XFL business, and during the startup press conference Vince McMahon mentioned that he wouldn’t allow players to kneel during the national anthem - this was when that was a hot topic for Trump, and McMahon played into it.

(All of which is ironic because at McMahon’s big shows, like the coming Wrestlemania, McMahon has artists sing America the Beautiful instead of the national anthem because he doesn’t like the latter.)

Anyway, Linda will be needed to help her husband if the XFL does consume a lot of his time. Linda has done this previously, being the top exec at WWE.

So it is in Linda’s self interest to help her husband make untold millions of more dollars.

The difference between now and the last time he tried the XFL, is that there is a new generation of McMahons that can lead the family business (WWE) between Stephanie McMahon and her husband, HHH. Plus Shane McMahon also returned to the family business recently (though I’m not sure how much say he has in the business operations).

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jaunte  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:57:43am
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Teukka  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:59:42am

Now Watching:

Denial as a Tool of the Radical Right

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gocart mozart  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:02:05am

Going on now Sam Seder vs Michael Tracey

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:06:11am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:06:23am

re: #82 makeitstop

I’m not sure what they’re getting at (rusty German and all), but that was a fuckin’ epic video.

Basically, Till Lindemann (the lead singer) is saying he wants to love Germany, but because of its dark history, he just can’t bring himself to give Germany his heart.

And there’s some nice trolling there too……the black woman in the video is the model/actress Ruby Commey - and her character is Germania: in essence, she represents Germany. Sort of Rammstein’s little “fuck you” to German nationalists and believers in blut und boden.

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freetoken  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:07:16am

So, the single PowerBall jackpot winner was from Wisconsin.

We can only hope that person is not a Bircher.

In other news, my CPT Symmetry Violator was correct:

littlegreenfootballs.com

calottery.com

Sad thing: I bought a few plays, and did pick 16, 20, and 37, but only in pairs, and getting two white ball numbers pays nothing.

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freetoken  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:13:34am

0kw2+iSRWuU6bdBAfHV6vsEojb/jegTwrtbmpbNKa5DhXiAH39yjZxITke/53IBumvYpvO9aOw+fXT6DBJSaheZw3x8Nfc7cxOmwU0JEjKdXVTRwFV5i/ogdwxuadutr7yPOX6J29E18OglK6hFlAD/TMM9s+hjFghQlWPaZjfjdUJGN/g/Kmmo1nFIpZlmqY184xCndMIvfV/NdMgKPxCogxGN1njckv8Skq7fmxa5YVZyFoRo8z+jSy5/MHjtfmGfiU9nw3InZYtiJO8Anf/G3dxu0nxM+Zlq49VzGxMhoBIIkEr3bTWToADRkcl4c0ROZjX5rbCyoiCJG4YRKtM1aAo1dxAD0zXP536LH2nXV/zZZ87QCtdwQnVhiGoduboJJkYyDxRzqm2gtpYFhJQ==

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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:15:10am

re: #42 Patricia Kayden

You look like a rockstar.

A pretty dang happy rockstar!

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jaunte  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:19:55am
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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:22:06am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:24:39am

5 risks to watch in 2019 2.0:

1. Uncertainty rules supreme
2. U.S. alliances are breaking
3. Global supply chain is fragmenting
4. Alternatives to capitalism are trending
5. Designer babies are here

6. The U.S. President is fucking insane

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Amory Blaine  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:26:02am

re: #229 freetoken

Odds are not good. New Berlin is RWNJ central.

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Teukka  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:27:01am

re: #234 Eclectic Cyborg

5 risks to watch in 2019 2.0:

1. Uncertainty rules supreme
2. U.S. alliances are breaking
3. Global supply chain is fragmenting
4. Alternatives to capitalism are trending
5. Designer babies are here

6. The U.S. President is fucking insane

7. Environment going sideways, in a pear shape, into the fan, much earlier than expected.

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freetoken  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:27:27am

re: #235 Amory Blaine

Odds are not good. New Berlin is RWNJ central.

I know. If a Trump mark wins (and even after taxes it’s a lot of money) I wonder how many millions will be sent to help build “the wall”??

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Amory Blaine  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:33:18am

re: #237 freetoken

A RWNJ pissing their money away warms my heart.

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jaunte  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:34:48am

Animals in revolt thread of the day

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jaunte  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:37:28am

“…In the association health plans case, Judge John Bates of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia said the move was “clearly an end-run around the A.C.A.” and unlawful. The rule must be set aside, he wrote, because it “does violence” to the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974. That law created the framework for employer-provided health insurance, and Bates says Trump’s rule alters the statutory definition of “employer” to include “virtually any association of disparate employers connected by geographic proximity,” and even self-employed individuals with no employees.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:40:27am

apparently historic massive floods weren’t enough:

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:43:47am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:48:23am

re: #233 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

[Embedded content]

If Trump goes through with his threat to close the border next week, that would effectively sabotage the USMCA.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:50:50am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:51:59am

I’m really surprised Nunes and the rest of them had the balls to formally submit that letter.

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jaunte  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:53:02am

re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg

They’re more disconnected from reality than we might have thought

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freetoken  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:53:49am

Even with Trump and the world burning, etc…. I still get distracted about how bad of a payout these lotteries provide for correctly picking numbers.

Other than getting the red ball, i.e., the PowerBall or MegaBall, or winning the jackpot, the payouts no way resemble the odds of actually picking say 2 or 3 numbers, or even 4 numbers.

This isn’t just about how desperate the states are for revenue (though that is true too) but how our society continually reinforces innumeracy and bad thinking.

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jaunte  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:57:30am
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wrenchwench  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:57:47am

re: #247 freetoken

…our society continually reinforces innumeracy and bad thinking.

Isn’t that how gambling has always worked?

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freetoken  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:59:49am

re: #249 wrenchwench

Isn’t that how gambling has always worked?

In the sense of a carney type atmosphere, I suppose.

But it has long been that in both pari-mutuel and casino gambling, the games are such that the payouts correspond more or less with the probability of winning.

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jaunte  Mar 29, 2019 • 12:00:07pm

Closing the border will kill off one of my major clients.

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Teukka  Mar 29, 2019 • 12:07:00pm
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sagehen  Mar 29, 2019 • 12:16:17pm

re: #250 freetoken

In the sense of a carney type atmosphere, I suppose.

But it has long been that in both pari-mutuel and casino gambling, the games are such that the payouts correspond more or less with the probability of winning.

Sorta kinda.

In casino gambling, the odds are based on physical likelihood.

In pari-mutual gambling, the odds are based on the other gamblers’ choices. If you’re a lot smarter, or they’re being reckless, your odds of winning (and the odds a winning ticket pays) could be significantly more than the actual physics&math odds. It’s like poker that way.

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ObserverArt  Mar 29, 2019 • 12:29:46pm

re: #239 jaunte

Animals in revolt thread of the day

[Embedded content]

That was fun.

Go Antifa the Rooster!

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Sir John Barron  Mar 29, 2019 • 12:43:32pm

re: #232 jaunte

DJT: Can I pardon this guy, too?

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steve_davis  Mar 29, 2019 • 1:29:49pm

re: #250 freetoken

In the sense of a carney type atmosphere, I suppose.

But it has long been that in both pari-mutuel and casino gambling, the games are such that the payouts correspond more or less with the probability of winning.

the odds are close enough for the house in blackjack to where they actually worry about card counters, which is too bad, because I might be smart enough to count cards and make a reasonable living, if it wouldn’t result in my hands being broken in a back room by one of Robert DeNiro’s henchmen.


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