Some More News Explains: American Media Is Bad and Here’s Why [VIDEO]

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In today’s episode, Cody explores just some of the reasons the American media is, for lack of a better term, not really something that could be described as doing an a-ok job.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:22:33am

So I was thinking about mass shootings earlier.

Specifically the oft-used anti-Gun Control argument that “Bad guys are still going to get get guns no matter what.”

I think on one level the statment is accurate. Obviously, if a person is 100% determined to get ahold of a weapon and shoot people NO MATTER WHAT, they are going to find a way to succeed at doing so.

Here’s the problem though: Real Life isn’t always so black and white.

Consider this scenario: A guy has no criminal record but has been going through a bit of a rough patch. Close friend died not too long ago, separated from an ex-wife and single at the moment. Struggling to pay his bills.

Now imagine this same guy goes in to work tomorrow morning only to be told he is being let go and to pack up his things and leave the premises.

Currently, it would be VERY EASY for this person, after he gathered his things up and left his workplace, to drive to the nearest gun store, purchase a small arsenal and return to either his workplace or go somewhere else and take out his frustrations on whomever happened to be convenient at the time.

But what if it WASN’T very easy to drive to the nearest gun store and purchase a small arsenal. What if there were more barriers in place?

The guy STILL might be determined enough to try and get a gun some way, but there are good odds he might deem getting a gun too difficult or inconvenient and find some other way to deal with his frustration that DOESN’T involve shooting his office up or killing innocent people.

Living in Canada, I never felt “vulnerable” because I didn’t have a gun but the bad guys still might. Also bear in mind most mass shootings are committed by people who were NOT violent criminals PRIOR to the shooting. It’s not gangbangers and drug dealers shooting up Night Clubs and Garlic Festivals, it’s young white guys who are angry about the world and easily able to procure military style weapons and high capacity magazines to let their anger be known in a very public way. When I was bullied in school, I at one point got angry enough I probably could have talked myself into committing a violent act if I had easy access to weaponry. Of course, I didn’t have such access and so nothing ever happened.

I do NOT advocate for banning all guns. I enjoy target shooting myself from time to time. But I do believe we should at least make it a lot harder to purchase weapons like an AR-15 if an outright ban is unrealistic.

I just get so angry that we can’t even get something as logical as Universal Background Checks passed.

Again, a reminder: After a mass shooter killed 51 people in New Zealand, the politicians there managed to enact new gun laws in THREE WEEKS. Australia is also notable as a place that quickly changed their gun laws after a massacre.

But not in America. In America the bodies keep piling up and piling up and piling up as the NRA conveniently buys all the Senators it needs to maintain the status quo and keep the blood flowing, no matter how much the rest of us are screaming about how fucked up this all is…after we attend the funerals of friends and family we have lost.

If the Founding Fathers could see how we’ve twisted the Second Amendment they’d say: “What the fucking hell is wrong with you people?!”

Will America ever learn? I’m starting to wonder if the answer is no.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:23:42am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:28:00am

I’ve been warning about de facto church militias for quite a while. Looks like they’re ready to come out into the open. This is a serious threat because Evangelical church networks provide the local organizational framework that armed right wing nutjobs otherwise lack.

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gocart mozart  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:28:41am

Scum tweeting scum. Malkin pimps Loomer lies

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:31:12am

The average uniformed private militia would have trouble mustering 20 armed members for an operation, and their motivation is certainly open to question once things become real. There are plenty of nutter churches that could raise a force of 200 or more armed fanatics on a moment’s notice.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:34:02am

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

Heck, I’d propose that your scenario is so humane you’re missing out on sizable chunk of likely outcomes to waiting lists:

Some shitty people with rage issues won’t be able to sustain that urge to kill and therefore won’t, though they will remain shitty people.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:35:27am

re: #5 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

There are plenty of nutter churches that could raise a force of 200 or more armed fanatics on a moment’s notice.

In Pashto, the word they use to describe those kind of folks is “ṭālibān” (طالبان‎).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:36:34am

re: #5 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The average uniformed private militia would have trouble mustering 20 armed members for an operation, and their motivation is certainly open to question once things become real. There are plenty of nutter churches that could raise a force of 200 or more armed fanatics on a moment’s notice.

I worry that in the wake of a major natural and/or man-made catastrophe that large parts of America are going to start looking like Somalia on steroids

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:40:57am

You can practically hear the flop sweat:

Rees-Mogg accuses Letwin of “stunning arrogance”. He says Letwin has misunderstood parliament. Its authority comes from the people, he argues (which is why he says it should not be challenging the referendum result).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:43:21am

re: #8 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I worry that in the wake of a major natural and/or man-made catastrophe that large parts of America are going to start looking like Somalia on steroids

We got a taste of that in the post-Katrina South. Lots of gun toting folks around threatening to shoot anyone on sight if they caused problems.

And that WAS before, Obama and Trump ratcheted the RWNJs up to 11.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:43:59am

re: #9 Targetpractice

You can practically hear the flop sweat:

And Speaker Bercow verbally pimp-slapped Mogg down.

Today has been a complete disaster thus far for the Brexiteers. They’re not entirely done yet, but they’re sure as hell on the ropes. After BoJo’s absolute train wreck earlier in Parliament - nicely topped off with him losing his majority, LOL - he’s probably kicking that poor dog he and his girlfriend just adopted.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:47:00am

re: #11 Dr Lizardo

And Speaker Bercow verbally pimp-slapped Mogg down.

Today has been a complete disaster thus far for the Brexiteers. They’re not entirely done yet, but they’re sure as hell on the ropes. After BoJo’s absolute train wreck earlier in Parliament - nicely topped off with him losing his majority, LOL - he’s probably kicking that poor dog he and his girlfriend just adopted.

And now Mogg is pulling the “I want them to impeach me!” gambit:

Rees-Mogg says parliamentary rules (the ones he has accuses John Bercow of subverting) are there to protect people from tyranny. He says there is a tried and tested means of removing an unpopular government - a confidence vote. But Labour has not tabled one, because it is afraid of losing, he claims.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:47:47am

re: #11 Dr Lizardo

And Speaker Bercow verbally pimp-slapped Mogg down.

Today has been a complete disaster thus far for the Brexiteers. They’re not entirely done yet, but they’re sure as hell on the ropes. After BoJo’s absolute train wreck earlier in Parliament - nicely topped off with him losing his majority, LOL - he’s probably kicking that poor dog he and his girlfriend just adopted.

They only have to stall. If no one else does anything, they win be default, even if they never win office again. Hopefully enough of the right people will do the right thing.

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MsJ  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:49:05am

re: #12 Targetpractice

And now Mogg is pulling the “I want them to impeach me!” gambit:

Labour MP:

This is going well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:53:06am

re: #14 MsJ

Labour MP:

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This is going well.

It’s just spectacularly inept

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MsJ  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:54:02am

Surprised?

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MsJ  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:55:44am

Now he’s catching on.

Rees-Mogg says the bill involves a deliberate attempt to allow an extension long enough to allow a second legislation, or to allow Brexit to be revoked.

He says this procedure could be used again to have a further Brexit delay.

This would create a marionette government, he says.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:59:29am

re: #18 MsJ

Now he’s catching on.

Yep. That’s the idea, Jacob.

Frankly, a second referendum would be the most ideal. And if the Leavers lose in a second referendum, there will be virtually zero political will to go through this shower of shit for a good long time - and that explains why they’re getting increasingly desperate to ram through a no-deal.

This is it. This is their one and only chance, probably for a generation….and they damn well know it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:59:56am

re: #16 MsJ

Surprised?

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Ugh. Think about all the damage this guy has done.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:00:51pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:01:36pm

Irish leaders naively thought Pence wouldn’t be a Trump puppet with malicious intentions:

Pence’s Brexit backing catches Dublin unawares

US vice-president’s unexpected support for British position on EU talks not expected

US vice-president Mike Pence leaves for London on Wednesday following a visit to Ireland that did not go entirely to plan. Pence made an unexpected intervention during his press conference with Taoiseach Leo Varadkar on Brexit that is far from helpful as Ireland enters a crucial period in the those negotiations.

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MsJ  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:04:27pm

re: #22 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Irish leaders naively thought Pence wouldn’t be a Trump puppet with malicious intentions:

Pence’s Brexit backing catches Dublin unawares

When fucking up your own country just isn’t enough.

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MsJ  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:06:10pm

This sounds familiar.

Ian Blackford, the SNP leader at Westminster, is speaking now. He accuses Boris Johnson of acting like a dictator. And he says the Conservative party is now acting like a cult.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:06:38pm

re: #24 MsJ

This sounds familiar.

Deja f’n vu.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:06:57pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:07:25pm

re: #24 MsJ

The Scottish reps are surely straightforward. They are speaking now.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:09:10pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:09:44pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:10:01pm

“Shooting yourself in the foot is no negotiation position” - a Scot minister.

He is of course right.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:11:43pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:13:27pm

re: #23 MsJ

When fucking up your own country just isn’t enough.

They are absolutely shooting to fuck the planet entirely, on purpose.

Some because they want the Apocalypse so bad they’re doing that Lady MacBeth bit where they’re gonna do it themselves and pretend they’re not as hard as possible as long as possible.

(Which puts me in the weird position of being on-side with the Book of Revelations, which accurately described these fuckers.)

Some because gambling with other people’s money and lives for that hit of self-importance has led to the ultimate all-in gesture.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:13:49pm

re: #27 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The Scottish reps are surely straightforward. They are speaking now.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:14:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:16:10pm
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MsJ  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:17:08pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:17:43pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:17:47pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

One thing about mass shooters is that they largely seem to be poorly socialized loners, generally not swimming in money. Right now, they can walk into a sporting goods store in many states and walk out with an AR15 and a crapload of ammunition, plus extended magazines to put it in. They don’t need social skills for that, and they don’t need a lot of money.

Now imagine if such guns were not legal in the US. Imagine the same poorly socialized loner, with a low wage job, trying to buy an AR15 on the black market. Imagine the sort of folks who would sell them, and imagine how much they’d charge, to cover the risk of arrest and imprisonment.

Jim Jeffries does a bit on this, saying that an AR15 on the black market in Australia costs $20K. I don’t know if it’s true, but that puts it squarely outside what a guy making minimum wage can afford.

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MsJ  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:18:26pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

😂😂😭😭😭

Literally crying at that one.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:20:38pm

re: #39 MsJ

😂😂😭😭😭

Literally crying at that one.

I threw up in my mouth a little….

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Mescalero09  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:23:11pm

re: #5 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The average uniformed private militia would have trouble mustering 20 armed members for an operation, and their motivation is certainly open to question once things become real. There are plenty of nutter churches that could raise a force of 200 or more armed fanatics on a moment’s notice.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:25:31pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:25:36pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:25:59pm

There’s a lot of talk about “Cancel Culture”, almost invariably talking about criticism of famous people who, strange as it may seem, never lose their platforms.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:28:49pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The smell of desperation is utterly thick. So long as there’s neither a no-confidence vote or a snap election, the Tories are utterly powerless to do much of anything without a majority. Hence the efforts to goad the Remain crowd into a no-confidence vote, as even if Boris loses the vote, he’ll get a general election if Labour and the Lib Dems can’t form a new majority gov’t.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:33:24pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Clever at fucking over people to get what you want, primarily leveraging their desire to be helpful and open, is not actually a skillset that translates to anything else. “

It’s kind of like when people declare serial killers genius when they all just get…as far they get…because normal people wouldn’t consider doing what they do, let alone counting it a win.

But the telling thing is that the shameless manipulation is presented as “genius” because people that deal in rhetoric…other politicians, commentators of all stripes…are evaluating the use of rhetoric orthogonal to honesty and morality. It’s the same shit that turns US analysis into discussions of “optics.” It’s like a bunch of actors that play surgeons trying to speak authoritatively about a real surgery but instead they end up calling Ted Bundy a criminal mastermind because they actually have shit for brains.

And I’ll go for the bonus points and observe that “love of rhetoric with nothing to it of meaning or conscience” explains the arc of fawning over Ben Shapiro as “smart guy” that continues even as he openly says stupid shit. If you only care about “winning” in rhetorical exercises his “I get the couch at a discount because I went to the store and defecated on” style of argument is pretty cool.

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:36:36pm

re: #5 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

But it’s also a central location to arrest/ambush them. Have a reaper at altitude watching and once they’re gathered? Boom goes the AGM-114… ;)

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:48:31pm

re: #44 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s a lot of talk about “Cancel Culture”, almost invariably talking about criticism of famous people who, strange as it may seem, never lose their platforms.

As they yell at Deborah Messing and Brie Larson to stick with acting.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:50:27pm

Extra funny points to the world for setting things up such that people high on the idea they’re the culmination of Western Civilization, and thus the successors of Hellenic philosophy, are sophists or individuals gulled by sophists.

I mean, the only thing that could be funnier was if the people screaming about the danger of postmodernists were exactly the kind of people the postmodernists warned us about, doing the exact thing the postmodernists said would fuck everybody up.

And the only thing funnier than that would be the same thing, but with Karl Marx.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:52:09pm

In Brexit news:

Emily Thornberry, the shadow foreign secretary, has just told Sky News that Labour is desperate to hold a general election. But, asked if Labour would support a vote for a general election tomorrow, she says the party might abstain, or vote against. She says the party wants to see the bill ruling out a no-deal Brexit on 31 October passed first.

Under the Letwin plan, the bill could become law on Monday.

No 10 has been saying that, if the government loses the vote tonight, Boris Johnson will push for a vote on an early election tomorrow. But without Labour’s support, he will not get the two-thirds majority required under the Fixed-term Parliaments Act for the vote to be operable.

Good. They’re worried that Boris might try some shenanigans so by not collapsing his government right now, it’ll hold his feet to the fire. It makes it difficult for him to wriggle off the hook.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:55:55pm

re: #50 Dr Lizardo

In Brexit news:

Good. They’re worried that Boris might try some shenanigans so by not collapsing his government right now, it’ll hold his feet to the fire. It makes it difficult for him to wriggle off the hook.

Boris figures he wins either way. A snap election would either give him back a majority with the votes to force through his plan or it would deny Parliament time to accept another extension.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 3, 2019 • 12:58:03pm

Is it possible that there could be a vote of “no confidence” regarding Boris? If so, pope John Paul I will have served a longer term.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:01:06pm

re: #52 Ace Rothstein

Do I hear Year of the 4 PMs?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:04:53pm

re: #53 lawhawk

Do I hear Year of the 4 PMs?

We’ve got four months left.

Let’s shoot the moon and see if we can get a Perkin Warbeck and a False Dmitri in there.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:07:29pm

re: #52 Ace Rothstein

Is it possible that there could be a vote of “no confidence” regarding Boris? If so, pope John Paul I will have served a longer term.

Not until there’s either a definitive vote ruling out a no-deal Brexit or a long-enough extension to run a second referendum.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:07:39pm

I’m not sure where I am today, but the part you’re not seeing is that at some point in the last 24 hours I stored a tube of Icy Hot in the spice cabinet.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:11:21pm

This looks like a good film. I might have to see it when it opens here.

JOJO RABBIT | Official Trailer [HD] | FOX Searchlight

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:18:13pm

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

Forgot to add: Jojo Rabbit was filmed entirely on location in Czech Republic.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:18:59pm

re: #44 Blind Frog Belly White

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There’s a lot of talk about “Cancel Culture”, almost invariably talking about criticism of famous people who, strange as it may seem, never lose their platforms.

Hell im seeing tons of ads for Dave. FFS people disagreeing with a person and saying this is why they’re wrong isn’t silencing them. I loved Dave back in the day. I’m sick of conservatives acting like every criticism of conservative views is silencing them. It’s utter bs and I’m disappointed to see comedians falling for it.

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:19:54pm

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

This looks like a good film. I might have to see it when it opens here.

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That could be the best WWII movie since Kelly’s Heroes. Loved the use of the auf Deutsch version of Heroes too.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:24:01pm

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

This looks like a good film. I might have to see it when it opens here.

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Could be fun.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:25:33pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

Hell im seeing tons of ads for Dave. FFS people disagreeing with a person and saying this is why they’re wrong isn’t silencing them. I loved Dave back in the day. I’m sick of conservatives acting like every criticism of conservative views is silencing them. It’s utter bs and I’m disappointed to see comedians falling for it.

I think someone posted that a shadowy group is amassing money to attack journalists’ reputations as well as media outlets. The “cancel culture” thing will be just a part of this hyper-working-the-refs (and endangering lives) effort in 2020.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:26:17pm

re: #60 William Lewis

That could be the best WWII movie since Kelly’s Heroes. Loved the use of the auf Deutsch version of Heroes too.

With Taika Waititi having written the screenplay, directed the film and starring as Hitler? I’ve got some high hopes for it.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:26:37pm

I remember something from the 80s that seems relevant now. There was an organization called Future Aviation Professionals of America. It helped newly licensed A&Ps find jobs in the aviation industry, especially the airlines. Their resume-writing guide included a strong warning against including any reference to guns or an interest in guns. It included some bad examples. For instance, don’t mention that you enjoy reloading or target shooting, or that you are an NRA certified instructor. I don’t know if these kinds of standards still exist but it’s a fair bet. I will mention it to my friend Carol, who is an expert on HR evaluation. She confirmed to me a while back that belief in batshit conspiracy theories was a disqualifier in many industries, so it wouldn’t surprise me if the closely related gun cult would be the same.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:27:24pm

re: #62 Barefoot Grin

I think someone posted that a shadowy group is amassing money to attack journalists’ reputations as well as media outlets. The “cancel culture” thing will be just a part of this hyper-working-the-refs (and endangering lives) effort in 2020.

I had never heard of a SJW until 3 years ago or virtue signaling. For all their complaints about PC being Orwellian, the true Orwellians are them who reduce basic decency or not being a judgmental dick to buzzwords.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:32:20pm

Re: Cancel Culture

Okay, fine. If we have to make Dave Chappelle, Alyssa Milano and Chrissy Teigen shut up then you need to the same for Ted Nugent, James Woods, Chuck Woolery and Kanye West.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:32:40pm

re: #64 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The FAPs?

(giggles uncontrollably)

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KGxvi  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:33:33pm

re: #66 Eclectic Cyborg

Re: Cancel Culture

Okay, fine. If we have to make Dave Chappelle, Alyssa Milano and Chrissy Teigen shut up then you need to the same for Ted Nugent, James Woods, Chuck Woolery and Kanye West.

You forgot the “biggest” right wing celebrity there is… some dude that used to play business man on a reality TV show.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:34:46pm

re: #68 KGxvi

You forgot the “biggest” right wing celebrity there is… some dude that used to play business man on a reality TV show.

Yes. Yes, I did.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:35:30pm

Time to call it a day. Have fun, Lizards.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:36:31pm

re: #68 KGxvi

You forgot the “biggest” right wing celebrity there is… some dude that used to play business man on a reality TV show.

Yeah funny how no one ever told him to shut up about politics. By far the most unqualified person but he got treated like a serious person which rest assured he’s never been.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:37:14pm

Thought I would mosey over to the fever swamp and see how the freepers are reacting to the Walmart declaration. It’s the expected mass of conspiracy theories, outhouse lawyering, threats, and gun-cult pedantry.

This one seems to have it pretty well covered. Note that he is also an antivaxxer.

I expect these fools to self-eradicate, possibly within my lifetime.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:43:59pm

Ian’s livetweeting of this shitstorm is nothing short of fecking amazing

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:46:07pm

you thought the world was in trouble before?

i just read a review of the ‘new’ harley road glide
it’s got a thing called VHC that i never heard of till today

Vehicle Hold Control (VHC) applies and holds brake pressure when activated and prevents the motorcycle from rolling after the rider has released the brake controls. The primary function of VHC is to prevent the motorcycle from rolling when it is stopped - for example at a stop sign on a hill, in stop-and-go traffic on a slope, or on a steep decline out of a parking structure. VHC is designed to make it easier to ride away with confidence by minimizing the number of controls needed to pull away smoothly.

i dont know how long this nonsense has been going on
last new bike i bought was in 2001

don’t these people know how to ride that they need crutches like this?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:46:23pm

Idea: The EU countries have every right in the world to exclude anyone they consider to be a danger to public safety. This could very reasonably include NRA officials, prominent member and advocates, since it is their influence that keeps guns easily available in America. In turn this increases their illicit availability in Europe. Organized terror gangs can get their guns from colleagues in the middle east or Africa but garden variety scumbags use a different channel. They typically get them from the seemingly endless and relatively cheap supply in America.

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danarchy  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:50:39pm

re: #74 DangerMan

you thought the world was in trouble before?

i just read a review of the ‘new’ harley road glide
it’s got a thing called VHC that i never heard of till today

i dont know how long this nonsense has been going on
last new bike i bought was in 2001

don’t these people know how to ride that they need crutches like this?

Are you opposed to automatic transmissions on cars too ;)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:51:32pm

re: #76 danarchy

Are you opposed to automatic transmissions on cars too ;)

I am…

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austin_blue  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:51:47pm

re: #76 danarchy

Are you opposed to automatic transmissions on cars too ;)

Yes. And get off my lawn.

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:52:06pm

re: #74 DangerMan

They mostly sell to old fucks who don’t know how to ride and would be happier on a Gold Wing but want to pretend they are rebels. Modern Harley Davidson cycles suck as a result.

Put them on a kickstarter hardtail with a knucklehead engine and springer forks for an 8 hour run ;)

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:52:25pm

re: #74 DangerMan

Cars have stuff like hill descent/control. It puts the emergency brake on while you take your foot off the brake pedal to hit the accelerator - preventing the car from rocking back (and potentially hitting the car behind you).

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:52:50pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

I had never heard of a SJW until 3 years ago or virtue signaling. For all their complaints about PC being Orwellian, the true Orwellians are them who reduce basic decency or not being a judgmental dick to buzzwords.

“SJW” and “virtue signalling” are shitty people’s way of trying to portray all people as just as shitty as they are.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:53:20pm

Times like these I remember that I’m a young punk basically hanging around in a nursing home.

//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:54:04pm
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mmmirele  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:54:09pm

re: #3 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’ve been warning about de facto church militias for quite a while. Looks like they’re ready to come out into the open. This is a serious threat because Evangelical church networks provide the local organizational framework that armed right wing nutjobs otherwise lack.

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It’s worth noting that one of Rick’s daughters, Anna Jane Joyner, is a prominent environmentalist. And, according to Anna Jane, none of her siblings are involved with dad’s business/church. Also, ole Rick here has had a bad couple of weeks, as his protege, Todd Bentley, has been accused of, YET AGAIN, inappropriate behavior ofva sexual nature, both here in the USA and also in Pakistan. Dude’s under a lot of stress and needs to have lots of eyeballs on him.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:54:17pm

Don’t be surprised if Texas or some other Russian collaborator occupied state attempts to pass a law against discrimination based on gun ownership or pro-gun opinions.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:56:10pm

re: #80 lawhawk

Cars have stuff like hill descent/control. It puts the emergency brake on while you take your foot off the brake pedal to hit the accelerator - preventing the car from rocking back (and potentially hitting the car behind you).

You haven’t lived till you’ve driven a car with a manual transmission and not a lot of power up Divisadero in San Francisco. Hint: Never stop before the crosswalk.

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:57:12pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

So I was thinking about mass shootings earlier.

Specifically the oft-used anti-Gun Control argument that “Bad guys are still going to get get guns no matter what.”

I think on one level the statment is accurate. Obviously, if a person is 100% determined to get ahold of a weapon and shoot people NO MATTER WHAT, they are going to find a way to succeed at doing so.

Here’s the problem though: Real Life isn’t always so black and white.

Consider this scenario: A guy has no criminal record but has been going through a bit of a rough patch. Close friend died not too long ago, separated from an ex-wife and single at the moment. Struggling to pay his bills.

Now imagine this same guy goes in to work tomorrow morning only to be told he is being let go and to pack up his things and leave the premises.

Currently, it would be VERY EASY for this person, after he gathered his things up and left his workplace, to drive to the nearest gun store, purchase a small arsenal and return to either his workplace or go somewhere else and take out his frustrations on whomever happened to be convenient at the time.

But what if it WASN’T very easy to drive to the nearest gun store and purchase a small arsenal. What if there were more barriers in place?

The guy STILL might be determined enough to try and get a gun some way, but there are good odds he might deem getting a gun too difficult or inconvenient and find some other way to deal with his frustration that DOESN’T involve shooting his office up or killing innocent people.

Living in Canada, I never felt “vulnerable” because I didn’t have a gun but the bad guys still might. Also bear in mind most mass shootings are committed by people who were NOT violent criminals PRIOR to the shooting. It’s not gangbangers and drug dealers shooting up Night Clubs and Garlic Festivals, it’s young white guys who are angry about the world and easily able to procure military style weapons and high capacity magazines to let their anger be known in a very public way. When I was bullied in school, I at one point got angry enough I probably could have talked myself into committing a violent act if I had easy access to weaponry. Of course, I didn’t have such access and so nothing ever happened.

I do NOT advocate for banning all guns. I enjoy target shooting myself from time to time. But I do believe we should at least make it a lot harder to purchase weapons like an AR-15 if an outright ban is unrealistic.

I just get so angry that we can’t even get something as logical as Universal Background Checks passed.

Again, a reminder: After a mass shooter killed 51 people in New Zealand, the politicians there managed to enact new gun laws in THREE WEEKS. Australia is also notable as a place that quickly changed their gun laws after a massacre.

But not in America. In America the bodies keep piling up and piling up and piling up as the NRA conveniently buys all the Senators it needs to maintain the status quo and keep the blood flowing, no matter how much the rest of us are screaming about how fucked up this all is…after we attend the funerals of friends and family we have lost.

If the Founding Fathers could see how we’ve twisted the Second Amendment they’d say: “What the fucking hell is wrong with you people?!”

Will America ever learn? I’m starting to wonder if the answer is no.

correct

there is no way to prevent the next specific mass shooting - by definition the next one that ‘gets through’ will be ‘next’

what we can easily do is prevent a lot of them overall - ie bring that veritable, predictable average of a mass shooting every single goddamned day down to something substantially less

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:57:18pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:57:48pm

re: #79 William Lewis

They mostly sell to old fucks who don’t know how to ride and would be happier on a Gold Wing but want to pretend they are rebels. Modern Harley Davidson cycles suck as a result.

Put them on a kickstarter hardtail with a knucklehead engine and springer forks for an 8 hour run ;)

“I’m a rebel, so I ride a motorcycle that is common as dirt.”

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gocart mozart  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:58:14pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2019 • 1:59:37pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #78 austin_blue

Say what you will about automatics, but every time they test any of the new muscle cars, stick vs automatic, the automatic always wins.

EDIT: That is, wins the race muscle cars are about - acceleration, whether 0-60 or 1/4 mile.

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BeachDem  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:00:41pm

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ian’s livetweeting of this shitstorm is nothing short of fecking amazing

I can’t see Mogg without thinking of Tracey Ullman as his “nanny.” She is hilarious, as always.

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:00:49pm

re: #19 Dr Lizardo

Yep. That’s the idea, Jacob.

Frankly, a second referendum would be the most ideal. And if the Leavers lose in a second referendum, there will be virtually zero political will to go through this shower of shit for a good long time - and that explains why they’re getting increasingly desperate to ram through a no-deal.

This is it. This is their one and only chance, probably for a generation….and they damn well know it.

a ‘win for us’ at all costs
we dont care what the term ‘win’ means

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:01:42pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Because I’ve been on a weird sleepless journey making a forum post that heavily involved Milton and Goethe, my observation about the entire anti-SJW thing is that it smacks of the same shit that drives the literary devils.

They love order so long as order permits them what they want, but hate order that forbids them or is permissive to others; they celebrate power as long as it buoys them, but despise power that makes them feel governed.

And at the bottom, there is a wheedling cowardly love of the technicality and “to the letter” precisely because fine print and exceptions allow them to argue away the humane general principles of the law…whether that law is divine, of the state, or of general social mores. This is why regardless of country or context, in different arguments, the same elevation of rhetoric over episteme occurs: words do not exist to describe or express, only to convince. And why consent is a technicality, and why general principles suddenly develop exceptions when pointed towards their wants.

And what we’re watching as this fails to produce particularly good results, even relative to their limited and dull wants, is that they will accept the illusion of victory, coins with no worth, rather than reconsider their framing of the world [that what they want is wrong (incorrect) and wrong (inaccurate)]. Which is why they’re trapped in a cycle of conning and being conned by each other, all pretending that they’re acting in good faith until the simply can’t hide the bad faith…and the re-starting the same cycle, with the same obvious bad faith, the same pretending, and the same shitty outcome.

It would be funny except in the process they have to destroy anyone that won’t turn life in sad narcissistic point-scoring exercise.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:01:45pm

There’s only two real good explanations for Moss’ attitude today. The first is that he’s purposefully trying to provoke the opposition into calling a no-confidence vote, in the hopes that they’ll fail to put together a coalition gov’t and force an election. The second is he’s a twat so massive he could use Cleopatra’s Needle as a sex aid (h/t Yahtzee Croshaw).

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KGxvi  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:02:42pm

re: #74 DangerMan

you thought the world was in trouble before?

i just read a review of the ‘new’ harley road glide
it’s got a thing called VHC that i never heard of till today

i dont know how long this nonsense has been going on
last new bike i bought was in 2001

don’t these people know how to ride that they need crutches like this?

My Challenger has a stick shift and “hill assist” (if I’m on a hill and in first gear, when I take my foot off the brake, it won’t roll back). It’s mostly nice since they decided to put in a pedal parking brake instead of a traditional hand break.

As far as the Harley’s go… the bigger ones are really made for old guys.

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:03:24pm

re: #30 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

“Shooting yourself in the foot is no negotiation position” - a Scot minister.

He is of course right.

this works re brexit as well as that nra story just above

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KGxvi  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:04:12pm

re: #91 Blind Frog Belly White

Say what you will about automatics, but every time they test any of the new muscle cars, stick vs automatic, the automatic always wins.

The Euro supercars don’t even have manual transmissions as an option anymore. You might get the flappy panels, but even those are phasing out because the engine timing has to be so precise.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:04:18pm

re: #93 DangerMan

a ‘win for us’ at all costs
we dont care what the term ‘win’ means

I’ve seen the suggestion in recent weeks that the motivation behind the money men who run the Conservative Party is getting out of the EU before next January, when new tax and financial records laws go into effect, which would mean those men would have to show where they’re hiding their wealth or risk legal action.

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:10:21pm

re: #48 Belafon

As they yell at Deborah Messing and Brie Larson to stick with acting.

because they dont like what they say

ever hear one of them chastise heston, james woods, ted nugent, any of that ilk? of course not

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:11:48pm

re: #52 Ace Rothstein

Is it possible that there could be a vote of “no confidence” regarding Boris? If so, pope John Paul I will have served a longer term.

he still outlasted the mooch

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:12:58pm

re: #98 KGxvi

The Euro supercars don’t even have manual transmissions as an option anymore. You might get the flappy panels, but even those are phasing out because the engine timing has to be so precise.

My Challenger has the old Mercedes Benz NAG5 automatic from when Daimler Benz owned Chrysler, and it has lovely aluminum paddles for shifting, but if I just leave it in Sport mode, it generally shifts when I would. Except making left turns from a stop. It always hits second too early.

Oh, and it’s too anxious to get into 4th on long freeway on ramps if there’s someone ahead of me.

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:13:48pm

re: #66 Eclectic Cyborg

Re: Cancel Culture

Okay, fine. If we have to make Dave Chappelle, Alyssa Milano and Chrissy Teigen shut up then you need to the same for Ted Nugent, James Woods, Chuck Woolery and Kanye West.

once again, i should read ahead…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:16:08pm

re: #48 Belafon

As they yell at Deborah Messing and Brie Larson to stick with acting.

Political Correctness for the Right.

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:16:19pm

re: #72 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Thought I would mosey over to the fever swamp and see how the freepers are reacting to the Walmart declaration. It’s the expected mass of conspiracy theories, outhouse lawyering, threats, and gun-cult pedantry.

This one seems to have it pretty well covered. Note that he is also an antivaxxer.

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I expect these fools to self-eradicate, possibly within my lifetime.

wtf does walmart care whether they’re paid via a bank debit card, credit card or snap card (oh, ok, or cash)?

i thought the R’s believed all money was fungible

insane asshattery

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KGxvi  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:17:09pm

re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White

My Challenger has the old Mercedes Benz NAG5 automatic from when Daimler Benz owned Chrysler, and it has lovely aluminum paddles for shifting, but if I just leave it in Sport mode, it generally shifts when I would. Except making left turns from a stop. It always hits second too early.

Oh, and it’s too anxious to get into 4th on long freeway on ramps if there’s someone ahead of me.

One feature that annoys me on the stick shift is that it has a “fuel saving” feature, so if you’re quarter throttle and going about 20 mph, it sends you from first to fourth. And it always finds a way to kick in at the worst times, like when I’m in line turning onto a freeway on ramp. Or it does it in relatively stop-n-go traffic where I can’t get the RPMs up to suit fourth gear.

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:21:13pm

re: #76 danarchy

Are you opposed to automatic transmissions on cars too ;)

i knew this was coming ;-)
and absolutely not

it’s an (arguable) convenience - and they’ve been battling it out since the 1920’s - really since the beginning
it’s not a crutch designed because you cant in fact work a couple of controls in various conditions

(rant off)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:21:49pm

re: #106 KGxvi

One feature that annoys me on the stick shift is that it has a “fuel saving” feature, so if you’re quarter throttle and going about 20 mph, it sends you from first to fourth. And it always finds a way to kick in at the worst times, like when I’m in line turning onto a freeway on ramp. Or it does it in relatively stop-n-go traffic where I can’t get the RPMs up to suit fourth gear.

At least you don’t have the MDS, that shuts off 4 out of 8 cylinders when cruising. Mostly, I don’t even notice it, but at certain speeds, on the freeways around here which go up and down a bit, the engine tries too hard to keep being 2.85L instead of 5.7 when I’m going up a mildish grade.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:24:34pm

re: #107 DangerMan

i knew this was coming ;-)
and absolutely not

it’s an (arguable) convenience - and they’ve been battling it out since the 1920’s - really since the beginning
it’s not a crutch designed because you cant in fact work a couple of controls in various conditions

(rant off)

I’d always had manuals, but I got an automatic in the Challenger - too much time crawling in stop-and-go traffic with the awful clutch in my old Outback! - and then the week after I got it I developed painful sciatica in my left leg that would have made it pure torture to drive a stick.

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:24:42pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am…

i have constantly owned at least one stick shift vehicle
at times every single one of them was

and ps - i think a bike with an auto trans is a totally kludge idea

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:25:47pm

re: #105 DangerMan

wtf does walmart care whether they’re paid via a bank debit card, credit card or snap card (oh, ok, or cash)?

i thought the R’s believed all money was fungible

insane asshattery

Probably because if there was no SNAP, those people wouldn’t be spending any money stolen from hard workin’ merikans….?

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Jay C  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:26:05pm

re: #99 Targetpractice

I’ve seen the suggestion in recent weeks that the motivation behind the money men who run the Conservative Party is getting out of the EU before next January, when new tax and financial records laws go into effect, which would mean those men would have to show where they’re hiding their wealth or risk legal action.

Makes sense: one thing the Brexiteer Brigade have been really reticent to do is to encourage any deep analysis as to exactly WHO is going to benefit the most from the UK being out of Europe*. I’ve seen a number of opinion pieces since the referendum noting that certain sectors of Big Money were hoping to cash in big in a non-EU London financial scene, as they were/are counting on a much “freer” attitude towards market regulations post-Bexit. Which, AFAIC, simply means turning the UK financial markets into a combination of Cyprus/The Caymans/Las Vegas, with just enough money being turned back to buy off any regulators that the “free market” might leave in place.

*besides the usual “everybody will benefit” boilerplate BS….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:26:46pm

re: #110 DangerMan

i have constantly owned at least one stick shift vehicle
at times every single one of them was

and ps - i think a bike with an auto trans is a totally kludge idea

and electric start…

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:27:57pm

re: #80 lawhawk

Cars have stuff like hill descent/control. It puts the emergency brake on while you take your foot off the brake pedal to hit the accelerator - preventing the car from rocking back (and potentially hitting the car behind you).

i’m just having a bit of fun here

though i gotta say i never heard of this until today - car or bike

and i do get the perceived ‘benefit’, though in all my years of driving stick shift bikes and cars i never once rolled backwards into another vehicle

and we do learn to assess the camber and pick our parking spots carefully ;-)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:28:04pm
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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:28:50pm

re: #82 Targetpractice

Times like these I remember that I’m a young punk basically hanging around in a nursing home.

//

i dont recall, did you opine on my pink floyd query the other day?

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KGxvi  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:29:10pm

I’m mostly over newer cars (and motorcycles), if/when I buy another car, it’ll probably be older than me.

Though I will admit, I am slightly intrigued by the HD livewire electric bike they’re introducing. Not good for cruising (95 mile range highway, 140ish city), but as a cafe racer, it might not be a bad idea.

But I never got my motorcycle license and I’m fairly certain that particular midlife crisis cliche has passed me by.

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:30:12pm

re: #86 Blind Frog Belly White

You haven’t lived till you’ve driven a car with a manual transmission and not a lot of power up Divisadero in San Francisco. Hint: Never stop before the crosswalk.

exactly

or half the motel parking lots in branson, MO

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:30:40pm

re: #115 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:30:40pm

re: #112 Jay C

Makes sense: one thing the Brexiteer Brigade have been really reticent to do is to encourage any deep analysis as to exactly WHO is going to benefit the most from the UK being out of Europe*. I’ve seen a number of opinion pieces since the referendum noting that certain sectors of Big Money were hoping to cash in big in a non-EU London financial scene, as they were/are counting on a much “freer” attitude towards market regulations post-Bexit. Which, AFAIC, simply means turning the UK financial markets into a combination of Cyprus/The Caymans/Las Vegas, with just enough money being turned back to buy off any regulators that the “free market” might leave in place.

*besides the usual “everybody will benefit” boilerplate BS….

Narrator’s Voice: WHO benefits doesn’t include the vast majority of those who voted “Leave”. Those who voted “Remain” already knew the answer.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:30:58pm

re: #116 DangerMan

i dont recall, did you opine on my pink floyd query the other day?

I was comfortably numb.

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KGxvi  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:31:13pm

re: #118 DangerMan

exactly

or half the motel parking lots in branson, MO

I spent a month there, one week.

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:31:44pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

you have NO say in what names we use to belittle you
besides, if the shoe fits…
act differently. see what happens.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:32:42pm
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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:33:35pm

re: #91 Blind Frog Belly White

Say what you will about automatics, but every time they test any of the new muscle cars, stick vs automatic, the automatic always wins.

EDIT: That is, wins the race muscle cars are about - acceleration, whether 0-60 or 1/4 mile.

true
i dont drive manual in order to speed

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:34:02pm

tapping foot in anticipation…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:34:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:35:20pm

re: #125 DangerMan

true
i dont drive manual in order to speed

often overlooked major benefit: manual transmission systems are easier and less expensive to repair

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:35:58pm

re: #122 KGxvi

I spent a month there, one week.

I went there once - one of my Imaginary Friends (as Mrs. FBW called my friends from the Bowsite) organized a get together there as part of the Farewell Tour for a beloved member of the crowd.

As I neared the place, I started seeing signs for acts I thought had long since given up the ghost. I mean, it was 2003, the Soviet Union hadn’t existed for a dozen years, and Yakov Smirnoff was headlining? “Eeen Amerrika, subject verbs object. BAHT, een Soviet Union, object verbs subject!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:36:13pm

re: #103 DangerMan

once again, i should read ahead…

Lol. Some points are good enough to be made twice.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:37:13pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:39:06pm

re: #131 jaunte

Not just Citizens United.

The NRA, Fox News, Koch Brothers, Devos Family…this list could get pretty long.

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:39:14pm

re: #111 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Probably because if there was no SNAP, those people wouldn’t be spending any money stolen from hard workin’ merikans….?

right $68 billion dollars of the food economy removed and replaced with….nothing….///

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:39:35pm
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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:41:49pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

and electric start…

my first harley had a kicker and an electric start
i always pressed the button….

sometimes i’d fake/ pretend to kick it and press the start
they never knew…..;-)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:42:37pm

re: #135 DangerMan

my first harley had a kicker and an electric start
i always pressed the button….

sometimes i’d fake/ pretend to kick it and press the start
they never knew…..;-)

teehee…that’s the ticket…

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:43:24pm

re: #122 KGxvi

I spent a month there, one week.

ditto

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:44:49pm
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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:45:01pm

re: #127 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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KGxvi  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:45:59pm

re: #129 Blind Frog Belly White

I went there once - one of my Imaginary Friends (as Mrs. FBW called my friends from the Bowsite) organized a get together there as part of the Farewell Tour for a beloved member of the crowd.

As I neared the place, I started seeing signs for acts I thought had long since given up the ghost. I mean, it was 2003, the Soviet Union hadn’t existed for a dozen years, and Yakov Smirnoff was headlining? “Eeen Amerrika, subject verbs object. BAHT, een Soviet Union, object verbs subject!”

My cousin and her then-girlfriend moved out there after the housing bubble/crash. I flew out to visit for a week. I was very intrigued by the day trip to Eureka Springs in Arkansas. But the Ozarks otherwise didn’t do much for me. Too much a city boy, I guess.

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:46:02pm

re: #129 Blind Frog Belly White

I went there once - one of my Imaginary Friends (as Mrs. FBW called my friends from the Bowsite) organized a get together there as part of the Farewell Tour for a beloved member of the crowd.

As I neared the place, I started seeing signs for acts I thought had long since given up the ghost. I mean, it was 2003, the Soviet Union hadn’t existed for a dozen years, and Yakov Smirnoff was headlining? “Eeen Amerrika, subject verbs object. BAHT, een Soviet Union, object verbs subject!”

1984 or 85 for me

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:46:20pm

re: #138 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Stupid, stupid waste.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:46:50pm

Wheeee! Tropical Depression Eight! This is the one moving NW from the coast of Africa.

At 500 PM AST (2100 UTC), the center of Tropical Depression Eight
was located near latitude 19.0 North, longitude 32.3 West. The
depression is moving toward the northwest near 8 mph (13 km/h), and
this general motion with some increase in forward speed is
anticipated during the next few days

Maximum sustained winds are near 35 mph (55 km/h) with higher gusts.
The depression is forecast to become a tropical storm on Wednesday,
although it is not anticipated to become a hurricane during the
work week.

The estimated minimum central pressure is 1006 mb (29.71 inches).

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:47:15pm

re: #132 Eclectic Cyborg

Not just Citizens United.

The NRA, Fox News, Koch Brothers, Devos Family…this list could get pretty long.

that dumbass senate rule that says a single senator loathed by his own state (mitch) controls everything

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:48:07pm

re: #140 KGxvi

My cousin and her then-girlfriend moved out there after the housing bubble/crash. I flew out to visit for a week. I was very intrigued by the day trip to Eureka Springs in Arkansas. But the Ozarks otherwise didn’t do much for me. Too much a city boy, I guess.

Oh, it’s pretty there, no doubt. But, ya know, it’s pretty here, too.

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:50:09pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

teehee…that’s the ticket…

‘81 lowrider

the last year AMF had the franchise. they could afford to do belt and suspenders

i think the kicker was more a sales gimmick. i dont think anyone actually used it. even with a dead battery it was easier to just push start

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:55:46pm

re: #146 DangerMan

‘81 lowrider

the last year AMF had the franchise. they could afford to do belt and suspenders

i think the kicker was more a sales gimmick. i dont think anyone actually used it. even with a dead battery it was easier to just push start

The kicker with a discretely placed electric start button is really great when you find yourself in front of one of your favorite gathering places, amongst a group of fellow travelers who are desperately kicking their bikes in the dead of winter.

One or two kicks, and instantly you become a god/goddess…

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:56:42pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wheeee! Tropical Depression Eight! This is the one moving NW from the coast of Africa.

Would someone please blessing the rains down in Africa.

//

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mmmirele  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:57:32pm

re: #64 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Ooh, let us know what your HR friend says.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:58:28pm

re: #148 Targetpractice

Would someone please blessing the rains down in Africa.

//

I would, but I would like to see MrBWS come home sometime before Christmas.

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Danack  Sep 3, 2019 • 2:58:41pm

re: #16 MsJ

He’s on the list:

gayhomophobe.com

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:00:02pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

The kicker with a discretely placed electric start button is really great when you find yourself in front of one of your favorite gathering places, amongst a group of fellow travelers who are desperately kicking their bikes in the dead of winter.

One or two kicks, and instantly you become a god/goddess…

precisely

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mmmirele  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:01:00pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am…

Some of us can’t drive without automatic. Seriously.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:01:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:01:45pm

re: #153 mmmirele

Some of us can’t drive without automatic. Seriously.

and that’s just fine

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:07:36pm

the one time an automatic would have been fine for me was when the cat broke my right arm.

That would have made shifting a problem.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:09:03pm

The Night of the Long Knives comes to London:

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:10:00pm

re: #146 DangerMan

Ive known a couple of hard cases who felt a starter was dead weight and only kick started their rides. The one also loved ape hangers.

I’ll take a nice Bonneville TUVM. :D

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:10:42pm

re: #157 Targetpractice

The Night of the Long Knives comes to London:

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“Lose whip in all circumstances”? What’s that mean?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:10:49pm

re: #157 Targetpractice

The Night of the Long Knives comes to London:

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Boris just can’t help making a fool out of himself.

I hope that Larry is scratching up the place and telling the new dog that it’s OK to chew the furnishings

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:11:56pm

re: #74 DangerMan

you thought the world was in trouble before?

i just read a review of the ‘new’ harley road glide
it’s got a thing called VHC that i never heard of till today

i dont know how long this nonsense has been going on
last new bike i bought was in 2001

don’t these people know how to ride that they need crutches like this?

I grew up driving manual transmissions. I’m also a pretty damn good navigator, I can look at a map and do a good job of getting from a to b without having to look at it more than once .

And you will pry automatic transmission and google maps out of my cold dead hands.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:12:14pm

In the early 1980s I was in Japan as an exchange student; a couple of years later my homestay brother came to America as an exchange student. He was placed in a small town in the Osarks area (think Winter’s Bone and not Branson). As I passed broken down home with old cars and appliances in the yards when I went to pick him up to visit us in Illinois for a few days my heart sank.

Surprise: he was treated like a star in the community. It was so cool for them to have a kid from Japan and he had a great experience! His English was already pretty good, but he really improved. Today he’s an executive for Japan Airlines.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:12:18pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:13:38pm

re: #159 Blind Frog Belly White

“Lose whip in all circumstances”? What’s that mean?

Basically, those 21 Tories are no longer members of the party. Oh, they’ll still be counted on the rolls and can vote with the party, but they’ve been effectively cut off and will have to either join another party or run as independents to retain their seats.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:13:51pm
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CleverToad  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:16:24pm

re: #122 KGxvi

I spent a month there, one week.

Dang it, now I have an ear worm going:
You ask how I know so much of Toledo,
Well, I spent a week there one day

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:20:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:22:39pm

re: #167 jaunte

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first time in 125 years…
that is almost page-worthy

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Jay C  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:23:57pm

Well, one small victory on the boards, anyway: remember the Lebanese Palestinian student who came to Boston to attend Harvard and got bounced back because some CPB agent didn’t like his (or his friends’) Facebook links or whatever?

Somebody seems to have pulled some strings, because Ismail Ajjawi was just admitted back into the US (via TPM), and will be attending school as planned.

Personally, I would have flown back wearing a “Fuck Trump” t-shirt, but that’s just me….

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Danack  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:24:03pm

re: #167 jaunte

Posted without comment: en.wikipedia.org

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:24:06pm

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m glad Ian Dunt is such a clear writer; I almost understand what happened now.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:25:29pm
“… Not long ago, it had all seemed so jolly. Johnson’s Cabinet appointments weren’t really considered in any normal way. They were selected as trolling gags, intended to upset Remainers as much as possible and prove his Brexit virility.

But now these people had to actually perform.”

Owning the libs, Parliament Edition.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:25:51pm

re: #169 Jay C

I am very happy to hear this news but the fact the string pulling was necessary in the FIRST FUCKING PLACE still galls me to no end.

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MsJ  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:26:11pm

re: #171 jaunte

I’m glad Ian Dunt is such a clear writer; I almost understand what happened now.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:27:06pm

re: #169 Jay C

Well, one small victory on the boards, anyway: remember the Lebanese Palestinian student who came to Boston to attend Harvard and got bounced back because some CPB agent didn’t like his (or his friends’) Facebook links or whatever?

Somebody seems to have pulled some strings, because Ismail Ajjawi was just admitted back into the US (via TPM), and will be attending school as planned.

Personally, I would have flown back wearing a “Fuck Trump” t-shirt, but that’s just me….

“and the Stephen Miller he rode in on.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:32:13pm

re: #171 jaunte

I’m glad Ian Dunt is such a clear writer; I almost understand what happened now.

I’m amazed that he was able to pull together a coherent article after livetweeting this crap all day

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:33:34pm

re: #174 MsJ

“The Conservative party is turning into something much darker, more toxic and brutal. It is now represented on the front bench by a collection of incompetents and reactionaries who cannot perform at the level government demands.”

Christ, that has a familiar ring to it.

And this…

“Johnson’s Cabinet appointments weren’t really considered in any normal way. They were selected as trolling gags, intended to upset Remainers as much as possible and prove his Brexit virility.”

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:35:46pm
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:36:27pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:36:39pm

History seems to keep kicking Boris in the bollocks for a laugh. First he whipped Leave fervor so much that it won the referendum, but then got drug down by Cameron in the conflagration that immediately followed. He spent years in the political wilderness because he was an utter asshole on the foreign policy circuit. And now that he’s managed to succeed May to Number 10, he’s lost the first vote of his time as PM and will only remain in the post because the opposition wants to keep him neutralized now that he’s lost his majority.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:36:50pm

re: #34 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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So then pass a law making the private sale of guns illegal. Works for me. This is not an impossible problem to tackle if our politicians are willing to do something.

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KGxvi  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:37:35pm

re: #166 CleverToad

Dang it, now I have an ear worm going:
You ask how I know so much of Toledo,
Well, I spent a week there one day

First time I heard the expression was when I bought the Harry Chapin live CD in high school. He’s got a line in the lead up to A Better Place to Be where he talks about the town that inspires it and when some in the audience applaud he says “that’s more than it deserves… I spent a week there one afternoon.”

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MsJ  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:37:57pm

re: #177 Blind Frog Belly White

“The Conservative party is turning into something much darker, more toxic and brutal. It is now represented on the front bench by a collection of incompetents and reactionaries who cannot perform at the level government demands.”

Christ, that has a familiar ring to it.

And this…

“Johnson’s Cabinet appointments weren’t really considered in any normal way. They were selected as trolling gags, intended to upset Remainers as much as possible and prove his Brexit virility.”

That article is brutal. Well written, easy to understand and brutal.

And yes, Johnson thinks he’s trump and those in his party have been compromised like our Republicans. Apparently, that’s not the case.

Fascinating and sad.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:38:29pm

re: #181 Patricia Kayden

So then pass a law making the private sale of guns illegal. Works for me. This is not an impossible problem to tackle if our politicians are willing to do something.

Narrator: Unfortunately, they are not willing to do anything.

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MsJ  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:39:17pm

re: #180 Targetpractice

History seems to keep kicking Boris in the bollocks for a laugh. First he whipped Leave fervor so much that it won the referendum, but then got drug down by Cameron in the conflagration that immediately followed. He spent years in the political wilderness because he was an utter asshole on the foreign policy circuit. And now that he’s managed to succeed May to Number 10, he’s lost the first vote of his time as PM and will only remain in the post because the opposition wants to keep him neutralized now that he’s lost his majority.

That’s some freaking legacy right there.

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MsJ  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:44:38pm

LOL!

Theresa May, whose premiership was wrecked by Brexit, has been photographed leaving Parliament after her successor, Boris Johnson, suffered defeat in his very first Commons vote.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:45:05pm

re: #184 Eclectic Cyborg

Lol! Shouldn’t laugh but I needed that.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:48:02pm

re: #163 jaunte

This is part of what I mean when I say that the media are part of an claque who value rhetoric for its own sake because ultimately that admire the power to get away with shit just usage persuasion. They practice the craft of sounding clever with nothing to back it up, so they value those skills and imagine them paramount in good leadership.

Signifiers have overtaken what they’re supposed to signify.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:50:01pm

Spattered reports of rebel Tory MPs saying they won’t stand for election again, which pretty much says it all right now. It appears that Boris’ threat has totally backfired, hardening the resolve of those who oppose him rather than scaring them back into line.
Both he and Moss have said they’ll respect the law if it’s passed tomorrow, but considering all the questions of whether he’d step down if he lost a no-confidence vote…

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danarchy  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:50:12pm

re: #144 DangerMan

that dumbass senate rule that says a single senator loathed by his own state (mitch) controls everything

If his state loathes him so much why the hell do they keep sending him back to the senate election after election since 1984?

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:50:28pm

re: #186 MsJ

She looks positively giddy! Lol. Never seen her smile so brightly. Don’t blame her.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:52:08pm

re: #190 danarchy

If his state loathes him so much why have the hell do they keep sending him back to the senate election after election since 1984?

“He’s a bastard, but he’s our bastard.”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:52:55pm

re: #189 Targetpractice

Spattered reports of rebel Tory MPs saying they won’t stand for election again, which pretty much says it all right now. It appears that Boris’ threat has totally backfired, hardening the resolve of those who oppose him rather than scaring them back into line.
Both he and Moss have said they’ll respect the law if it’s passed tomorrow, but considering all the questions of whether he’d step down if he lost a no-confidence vote…

Like my mammy always said: Never trust a pile of cured meat in a wig to lead anyone. Ham is notoriously devoid of nuance and respect for institutions.

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KGxvi  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:53:33pm

re: #193 The Ghost of a Flea

Like my mammy always said: Never trust a pile of cured meat in a wig to lead anyone. Ham is notoriously devoid of nuance.

It’s all in how you cook it.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:54:17pm

re: #194 KGxvi

It’s all in how you cook it.

He’s British.

Boiled.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:54:27pm
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:54:52pm

re: #74 DangerMan

you thought the world was in trouble before?

i just read a review of the ‘new’ harley road glide
it’s got a thing called VHC that i never heard of till today

i dont know how long this nonsense has been going on
last new bike i bought was in 2001

don’t these people know how to ride that they need crutches like this?

Boomers buying these bikes lack the hand/foot control to keep the rear brake on with the right foot while gradually rolling on the throttle and letting out the clutch.

And no, they don’t know how to ride. They just want to grab a piece of their youth back. Which is why accident stats for old farts are going through the roof…

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MsJ  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:56:20pm

re: #191 Patricia Kayden

She looks positively giddy! Lol. Never seen her smile so brightly. Don’t blame her.

I’ve barley ever seen her smile at all.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 3, 2019 • 3:57:49pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:00:45pm

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:01:48pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:02:11pm

Spent the afternoon watching Doug Jones answer tough questions from college students. He is sane, moderate, forthright. He doesn’t have much of a chance in this state.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:10:23pm

re: #202 Decatur Deb

If Judge “touching teenagers” Moore is the Republican nominee, Jones may win again.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:11:47pm

…and no negotiations planned.

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plansbandc  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:12:54pm

So since we can’t fix any other countries, we shouldn’t try to do anything about climate change here.

Hot take from my libertarian friend.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:13:33pm

re: #203 Patricia Kayden

If Judge “touching teenagers” Moore is the Republican nominee, Jones May win again.

Yep, and I’ll pound pavement for him. Tommy Tuberville, ex-Auburn coach, is also in the mix. If they run any competent officeholder we’re screwed.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:17:42pm

re: #198 MsJ

Even her eyes are gleeful. Lol!

I honestly thought that Boris Johnson was intelligent but it appears he’s as buffoonish as our dumb President. He is destroying his own party. And for what? There will be dire consequences if a no-deal Brexit goes through.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:22:27pm

re: #192 Targetpractice

“He’s a bastard, but he’s our bastard.”

No, he is NOT our bastard.
Just need to get people to be bothered to vote instead of just whine

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danarchy  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:24:48pm

I need someone to explain UK parliament to me. So the commons is going to vote tomorrow to take a no deal Brexit off the table. Boris Johnson says he will not go to the EU and request an extension and calls for a snap election. The opposition says they won’t grant an election until no deal is off the table. So if they take no deal off the table and refuse a new election and Boris refuses to ask for an extension, wont no deal happen anyway just because the clock runs out?

The commons can’t just say we won’t leave without a deal, someone has to go negotiate that with the EU right?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:25:23pm

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

No, he is NOT our bastard.
Just need to get people to be bothered to vote instead of just whine

also, he’s actually from Alabama

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:25:55pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

also, he’s actually from Alabama

We cared enough to send our very best.

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retired cynic  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:25:55pm

RBG giving a lecture on Facebook Live at the Clinton Center in Little Rock.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:31:44pm

re: #207 Patricia Kayden

Even her eyes are gleeful. Lol!

I honestly thought that Boris Johnson was intelligent but it appears he’s as buffoonish as our dumb President. He is destroying his own party. And for what? There will be dire consequences if a no-deal Brexit goes through.

Johnson has capacities for learning and some erudition, but ultimately his personality cancels out the beneficial effect.

It’s stupidity emanating from fundamentally not caring about the worth of information and people beyond super fucking basic selfish ends, and thus neglecting skills for handling information and people that do anything other than buoy their (super fucking basic selfish) worldview. He and has cohort are specifically losing their shit because they can’t conceive their power doesn’t grant deference, even when they’ve undermined the norms and rules that undergird and justify that power.

Everything we’re watching is basically entitlement taken to the point it’s brain damage.

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retired cynic  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:32:13pm

re: #212 retired cynic

I must be stupid, as I’m not seeing anything. Supposed to be on cspan as well.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:33:51pm

re: #209 danarchy

I need someone to explain UK parliament to me. So the commons is going to vote tomorrow to take a no deal Brexit off the table. Boris Johnson says he will not go to the EU and request an extension and calls for a snap election. The opposition says they won’t grant an election until no deal is off the table. So if they take no deal off the table and refuse a new election and Boris refuses to ask for an extension, wont no deal happen anyway just because the clock runs out?

The commons can’t just say we won’t leave without a deal, someone has to go negotiate that with the EU right?

The “Benn bill” that’s coming to a vote tomorrow says that Boris has to either get a deal that Parliament agrees to by Oct 19th or else must seek an extension from the EU for no earlier than Jan 31st, 2020. And if the EU offers a longer extension, then Boris has to agree to it within two days unless the Commons votes to oppose the offered date.

Yeah, Boris could refuse to execute the bill if passed, but the bill also allows time for litigation in such a situation. And considering the revelations today in the courts about his reasons for prorogation, as well as other members of his Cabinet being on record as admitting they don’t believe Boris will seek a deal, the odds that he wins in the courts are…remote.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:36:24pm

tell that to the US Virgin Islands you orange asshat

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retired cynic  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:36:46pm

re: #214 retired cynic

Starting now

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:38:43pm
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Belafon  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:39:23pm

re: #157 Targetpractice

The Night of the Long Knives comes to London:

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If Johnson loses everything he has been after, it won’t matter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:43:22pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:45:08pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:46:15pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:46:33pm

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Bad people.” “People issue.” I mean, how can you argue with such a sophisticated grasp of the facts of the matter as that?

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:47:41pm

in our house, we like to think we respect the last grain or bean….
out of the can or box
on the spoon
out of the pot onto the plates
eating from the plates, etc

cous cous is quite the challenge
a single cous is a real test of determination

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:52:19pm
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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 4:52:37pm

re: #181 Patricia Kayden

So then pass a law making the private sale of guns illegal. Works for me. This is not an impossible problem to tackle if our politicians are willing to do something.

im fine with private sales
make every sale subject to background checks - otherwise the idea, as we’ve seen, is worthless

if you dont reasonably vet the buyer, it’s an invalid transfer and whatever he does with your gun is on you

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:02:44pm

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yellow lines are original coastline. You couldn’t comprehend the amount of flooding and destruction they’ve seen

Is the “disappeared” coastal plain a temporary effect of water that is piled up for the moment, or have hydro forces scoured away layers of the land? Anyone’s guess?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:07:29pm

re: #227 Decatur Deb

Is the “disappeared” coastal plain a temporary effect of water that is piled up for the moment, or have hydro forces scoured away layers of the land? Anyone’s guess?

at this point, I have no idea since there is still massive flooding

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:11:58pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

at this point, I have no idea since there is still massive flooding

Usually, some lurking lizard pulls out a hydrology degree and a circular slide rule…

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:13:57pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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I guess he’s never seen chimps go to war.

When Chimps Go to War

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:14:36pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:17:27pm

re: #229 Decatur Deb

Usually, some lurking lizard pulls out a hydrology degree and a circular slide rule…

For shit’s sake—There is a Circular Slide Rule Museum, and one is for hydrology.


sliderulemuseum.com
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:19:55pm
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Romantic Heretic  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:21:55pm

re: #182 KGxvi

Had that album on vinyl. One of my all time faves.

I was really bummed when I heard he’d died In a car accident.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:21:58pm

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dread Pirate  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:24:44pm

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Those sleeves and her arms look like anti rat cones on hemp dock lines.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:24:49pm

DD: here’s an explanation for that image

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A Mom Anon  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:25:51pm

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

What is it with rich women and expensive, dumb and obviously uncomfortable dress choices? That’s just dumb and hideous. I bet she paid more for that than most people make in a month, or more. Gross.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:26:27pm

re: #238 A Mom Anon

What is it with rich women and expensive, dumb and obviously uncomfortable dress choices? That’s just dumb and hideous. I bet she paid more for that than most people make in a month, or more. Gross.

it was probably one of her own stupid designs.

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b.d.  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:27:25pm

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

it was probably one of her own stupid designs.

yep, probably had some extra dog cones and green streamer tape laying around.

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b.d.  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:28:14pm

re: #238 A Mom Anon

What is it with rich women and expensive, dumb and obviously uncomfortable dress choices? That’s just dumb and hideous. I bet she paid more for that than most people make in a month, or more. Gross.

poor women would wear hideous clothes too but they can’t afford them.

//

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:31:07pm

Can Ivanka be impeached for wearing that outfit? Can she be imprisoned for crimes against humanity? There should be a dress penalty.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:32:56pm

OH HAI WE ARE HOME!

CL’ed. Gone upstairs.

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stpaulbear  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:39:52pm

re: #197 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Boomers buying these bikes lack the hand/foot control to keep the rear brake on with the right foot while gradually rolling on the throttle and letting out the clutch.

And no, they don’t know how to ride. They just want to grab a piece of their youth back. Which is why accident stats for old farts are going through the roof…

I’ll confess that I’m one of those people who can’t coordinate my hands and feet to brake and shift at the same time. To get around that, I bought a 250cc scooter with a CVT transmission and brakes that work just like my bicycle. I was about 55 when I bought it and it was the most fun decision I’ve ever made.

I don’t remotely care about the cool factor (it’s a Kymco, not a Vespa). I like that guys on Harley’s don’t want to be seen within 500 feet of me. I like that I don’t have to care that I can’t afford the clothes that go with the Harley image.

I upgraded to a 300cc fuel injected scooter a couple years ago (another Kymco) and I love it. The third best thing about it is that it can go 85 mph if I need to. The second best thing about it is that it’s a lot more comfy at 55-70 mph. The absolute best thing about it is that it can’t go 120 mph.

edit: and of course the thread is now dead.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:36:56pm

re: #234 Romantic Heretic

Had that album on vinyl. One of my all time faves.

I was really bummed when I heard he’d died In a car accident.

Harry Chapin was a headliner at a University of Illinois dance marathon when I was in high school. It was a great set.

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gocart mozart  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:19:04pm

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth


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