The Bob Cesca Podcast: A Puddle of Self Loathing

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show, powered by Oleg Fastovsky Attorney at Law:

A Puddle Of Self Loathing — NSFW! Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; John Bolton resigns; Bolton accuses Trump of lying about the resignation; House of Commons speaker John Bercow stepping down; No deal Brexit blocked by Parliament; The special election in the North Carolina 9th; Trump denies knowing anything about Air Force planes landing at Prestwick airport; Scottish officials reveal Trump Org agreement; Why did NBC News report the whereabouts of a U.S. spy; The NOAA Alabama scandal continues; With music by The Scenic Route; and more!

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317 comments

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 10, 2019 • 6:41:50pm
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 10, 2019 • 6:44:43pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 10, 2019 • 6:46:19pm
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Kilroy was here  Sep 10, 2019 • 6:46:49pm

Mecklenburg county is a Democratic strong hold and all the large Republican counties are done reporting.

Fingers crossed.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 10, 2019 • 6:53:13pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 6:53:48pm

Left on the last thread
re: #385 Belafon

I’m curious when North Carolina’s redistricting will occur and what those maps will look like.

re: #390 Anymouse 🌹🎃

They are required to have the redistricting complete by September 18.

The NC House and Senate have started on the project.

North Carolina legislators who are redrawing dozens of General Assembly districts that judges deemed illegal partisan gerrymanders turned Monday to considering district lines generated by a key expert for those who successfully sued over the maps.

The House and Senate redistricting committees met to figure how they would enact new boundaries for the 2020 election by a court-mandated Sept. 18 deadline. Last week, a three-judge panel declared Republican mapmakers violated the state constitution by manipulating districts created in 2017 to help elect a maximum number of GOP candidates and make it nearly impossible for Democrats to win majorities.

Read more here: newsobserver.com

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Belafon  Sep 10, 2019 • 6:55:56pm

re: #5 Dread Pirate

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 6:56:17pm

A winter weather advisory went up west of us in Carbon County, Wyo. (frost advisory)

Here, all the thunderstorms moved across the Wyoming line into Nebraska, and a bunch of thunderstorms in Colorado have now moved into my area as well.

wunderground.com

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retired cynic  Sep 10, 2019 • 6:59:02pm

Bishop still adding votes. It looks tough.

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b.d.  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:00:32pm

re: #7 Belafon

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BUT FOXNEWS SAID THAT FARMERS WERE CHEERFUL & THANKFUL AND THAT THE CROPS WERE ABUNDANT THIS YEAR

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teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:06:10pm

My Twitter is still periodically getting polluted with Twitchy fuckmooks. It’s annoying.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:06:35pm

NC-09 gonna be close, but turnout is lower than 2018 because it is a special election. Low turnout favors the R candidate.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:07:32pm
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Belafon  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:07:36pm

re: #10 b.d.

BUT FOXNEWS SAID THAT FARMERS WERE CHEERFUL & THANKFUL AND THAT THE CROPS WERE ABUNDANT THIS YEAR

Crops might have been abundant, but he deported all the people who pick them.

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teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:07:49pm

Looks like they’re calling it for Bishop.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:10:22pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

Looks like they’re calling it for Bishop.

NBC has it too close to call. The NYT has it leans Republican, but too close to call.

nbcnews.com
nytimes.com

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Belafon  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:14:01pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

Looks like they’re calling it for Bishop.

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If I had a boatload of money, one of the things I would spend it on is finding out why some people only vote every four years.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:14:34pm

re: #17 Belafon

If I had a boatload of money, one of the things I would spend it on is finding out why some people only vote every four years.

Because people don’t care.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:15:27pm

The NYT just called it for Bishop. NBC still has it too-close-to-call. The Charlotte Observer has it too-close-to-call.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:15:30pm

re: #18 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Because people don’t care enough.

FTFY

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Belafon  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:16:51pm

Seen on a car at work:

Firefly
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:17:00pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:17:07pm

Unless there is a voting app on Twitch or Instagram, don’t expect the under 25yo to go vote in an off election.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:17:42pm
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Belafon  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:18:18pm

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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He is weakening, and there’s a reason we have the “cornered rat” analogy.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:21:38pm

re: #24 Dread Pirate

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jaunte  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:22:39pm

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Malignant narcissists WILL fight to the death

I expect he’s had Don Jr.and Eric tested in case he needs spare parts.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:23:29pm

Bishop barely held NC12 for the GOP.

Reminder that this district has not sent a Democrat to the House since the 60s.

The main thing to take away is that he barely held on to an R + 12 district.

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jaunte  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:25:02pm

Seems unlikely.

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MsJ  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:26:54pm

re: #28 Joe Bacon 🌹

Bishop barely held NC12 for the GOP.

Reminder that this district has not sent a Democrat to the House since the 60s.

The main thing to take away is that he barely held on to an R + 12 district.

What’s the worst is how trump is gonna gloat.

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teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:27:57pm
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Belafon  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:29:22pm

re: #29 jaunte

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Seems unlikely.

That’s frustrating, but there are still a lot of registered Democrats that vote Republican all the time, like that clerk who tried to stop gay marriage.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:30:25pm

Hot takes coming in.

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Belafon  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:30:26pm

re: #30 MsJ

What’s the worst is how trump is gonna gloat.

“Just think folks, we cheated and you still voted for us. There’s nothing we can do that will make you turn against us.”

*Cheers from the crowd*

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jaunte  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:30:48pm
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MsJ  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:31:01pm

Justified, from the beginning on a broadcast channel. Hot dog.

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retired cynic  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:32:12pm

re: #33 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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Hot takes coming in.

Redistricting should help.

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Belafon  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:34:21pm

re: #33 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I suspect most of them register D these days just to vote in primaries.

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Belafon  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:36:44pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:37:54pm

re: #39 Belafon

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This is true. We are all extras in “Celebrity Apprentice: Government!”

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teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:38:36pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:40:59pm

You’ll have to get capitalism out of it first.

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jaunte  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:44:26pm

re: #41 teleskiguy

You could try quoting John Bercow at them: “I require no assistance.”

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teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:44:31pm

Oh fuck, he’s gloating.

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jaunte  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:45:39pm

“Congrats to Whatshisname!”

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Belafon  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:52:46pm

re: #44 teleskiguy

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:54:59pm

re: #41 teleskiguy

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Just FYI, subscribing to my block list would have significantly cut down on the deluge.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:56:19pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:56:44pm

Just found out why I’ve been getting bombarded with the dumbest dumb fucking bullshit from brain dead RWNJ Twitter warriors.

Tables have turned. I have now blocked her.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:58:58pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

Just found out why I’ve been getting bombarded with the dumbest dumb fucking bullshit from brain dead RWNJ Twitter warriors.

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Tables have turned. I have now blocked her.

Thanks for the heads up. VB blocked this creature years ago. Pie blocked it just now.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 10, 2019 • 7:59:41pm
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Dread Pirate  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:00:15pm

She’s running for Republican nomination.

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teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:00:30pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

Tables have turned. I have now blocked her.

I think that did it. My mentions have stopped, uh, mentioning.

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plansbandc  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:02:28pm

Frontline is about Flint tonight. Going to be brutal.

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teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:05:20pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:06:16pm

re: #47 goddamnedfrank

Just FYI, subscribing to my block list would have significantly cut down on the deluge.

THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!!

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teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:07:29pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

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Dread Pirate  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:10:08pm
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jaunte  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:10:16pm

This also seems unlikely.

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Belafon  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:11:55pm

re: #59 jaunte

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This also seems unlikely.

Is it weird that I don’t trust the GOP on this voting?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:12:19pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

Just found out why I’ve been getting bombarded with the dumbest dumb fucking bullshit from brain dead RWNJ Twitter warriors.

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Tables have turned. I have now blocked her.

I blocked that circle jerk over a year ago. No regrets.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:13:59pm

re: #59 jaunte

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This also seems unlikely.

Given the history of this district, let’s hope that the voting would be investigated thoroughly. Of course, this may just prove that the Russians have upped their game and it will be a Republican landslide next year.

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austin_blue  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:14:03pm

re: #40 The Pie Overlord!

This is true. We are all extras in “Celebrity Apprentice: Government!”

I think you are right, and it’s just terrifying, isn’t it? Bit by bit, we are losing our democracy to a kakiostracy/kleptocracy.

At this rate we will be Venezuela in three years if the Mango Metamusellini gets re-elected

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plansbandc  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:16:22pm

It’s the Legionnaire’s disease that’s the thing they’ve been trying to hide even more than the lead contamination.

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Belafon  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:17:35pm

It’s all really likely that a lot of Democrats didn’t turn out for this one, because it wasn’t on the first tuesday after the first money of an election year. Which is just frustrating.

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Belafon  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:19:58pm

From Virginia:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:21:28pm

re: #66 Belafon

From Virginia:

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Not far from me.

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austin_blue  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:23:51pm

re: #51 The Pie Overlord!

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This is why Marines and sailors routinely get into bar fights. Marines look like warriors, sailors pluck their eyebrows, shave their legs, and wear pre-soiled uniforms.

(As told to me by USMC father, who had his nose broken in one memorable melee during a Med cruise.)

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Interesting Times  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:24:33pm

re: #65 Belafon

It’s all really likely that a lot of Democrats didn’t turn out for this one, because it wasn’t on the first tuesday after the first money of an election year. Which is just frustrating.

Freudian typo? :/

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:26:13pm

It could be simple apathy but skepticism is completely understandable too. Man I really don’t like direction we’re headed in. Next November could be great or just another case of feeling sick.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:27:42pm

re: #63 austin_blue

I think you are right, and it’s just terrifying, isn’t it? Bit by bit, we are losing our democracy to a kakiostracy/kleptocracy.

At this rate we will be Venezuela in three years if the Mango Metamusellini gets re-elected

It all feels like a bad movie. I knew something obviously not Bolton and Trump having a I resigned-no, I fired you spat was going to happen this morning.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:31:03pm

All storm warnings and watches have been dropped here. The last couple severe thunderstorms are moving toward my town, with a bunch of lightning to the WNW
lightningmaps.org;

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:35:15pm

Man, just north of town there is a severe smiting of lighning.

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austin_blue  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:38:57pm

re: #64 plansbandc

It’s the Legionnaire’s disease that’s the thing they’ve been trying to hide even more than the lead contamination.

Well, real dead people rather than permanently damaged children, there’s the choice, isn’t it?

They hid the deaths, blamed it on the hospitals, and denied everything. Two judges ruled to advance the cases to trial for manslaughter to two high ranking members of the previous (Republican) Governor’s Admin, but when new D Governor and AG were elected, they declined to adavance the cases.

Fuck my life.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:39:22pm

My defence would be “Trump drives his golf carts on the greens” and try to get a plea for trespassing.

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gocart mozart  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:54:35pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:55:09pm

Oh and we have a President who doesn’t seem to understand why we need spies in hostile countries because he wants to be buddies with their leaders. I don’t know if Trump is that stupid, a willing asset, both, or something else but every day I’m sick to my stomach he’s President because he has no idea what he’s doing. It’s going to be a long road cleaning up his mess.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:55:56pm

re: #76 gocart mozart

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Good. I’m glad they are because they’ve gotten the kiddie gloves treatment for too long.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:56:22pm
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austin_blue  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:57:07pm

That young man needs to learn that you don’t do that shit without removing the plates on your car, or learn to hot-wire any of the maintence vehicles at a facility like that that can tear up greens, like backhoes and graders.

Dumb shit.

But points for originality.

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austin_blue  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:58:14pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Oh and we have a President who doesn’t seem to understand why we need spies in hostile countries because he wants to be buddies with their leaders. I don’t know if Trump is that stupid, a willing asset, both, or something else but every day I’m sick to my stomach he’s President because he has no idea what he’s doing. It’s going to be a long road cleaning up his mess.

Useful idiot.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 8:58:35pm

re: #76 gocart mozart

LOL

Having a person who used to work on the insides of corporations and who understands law will be important to rein in corporate excesses.

I can compose a lot of fantasy presidential tickets in my head right now, and Elizabeth Warren would either be on the ticket or in the cabinet.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 10, 2019 • 9:00:13pm

If President Oba……
Oh fuck it. What’s the use

//

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2019 • 9:02:26pm

re: #83 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

If President Oba……
Oh fuck it. What’s the use

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He’s going to try it. And if it happens, Obama needs to say fuck it and run a scorched earth campaign against him.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 10, 2019 • 9:07:26pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

He’s going to try it. And if it happens, Obama needs to say fuck it and run a scorched earth campaign against him.

He’s planning on making Pence resign in 2022, and having Jr. nominated for VP. Then Jr. runs in 2024, with Ivanka for VP

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austin_blue  Sep 10, 2019 • 9:10:25pm

re: #83 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

If President Oba……
Oh fuck it. What’s the use

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It really just encapsulates the complete ignorance of the Drumpf, voter doesn’t it?

Fanatical, ignorant, and committed.

I get so tired of the media trying to convince me that I should try to “understand” these people. They are mouth-breathing fuckwits.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 10, 2019 • 9:11:35pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2019 • 9:11:50pm

re: #85 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

He’s planning on making Pence resign in 2022, and having Jr. nominated for VP. Then Jr. runs in 2024, with Ivanka for VP

I think he would have Ivanka first. Either way, I’m sick thinking about where we are headed. He’s leading us down a dangerous path. I genuinely fear we will see a second civil war in my lifetime.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2019 • 9:14:38pm

re: #86 austin_blue

It really just encapsulates the complete ignorance of the Drumpf, voter doesn’t it?

Fanatical, ignorant, and committed.

I get so tired of the media trying to convince me that I should try to “understand” these people. They are mouth-breathing fuckwits.

They treated Obama like a tyrant for wanting to make health care more affordable using a Republican inspired plan. And I’ll never forget or forgive that. Not to mention the treatment of Michelle and the girls. They simply could not accept that the country liked Obama so they had to delegitimize him.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 10, 2019 • 9:15:04pm

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2019 • 9:16:43pm

re: #90 Dread Pirate

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OFFS it’s a bright red Republican district. But if NcCreedy had won, he’d be crying fraud.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 10, 2019 • 9:18:29pm

re: #88 HappyWarrior

I think he would have Ivanka first. Either way, I’m sick thinking about where we are headed. He’s leading us down a dangerous path. I genuinely fear we will see a second civil war in my lifetime.

No. If he trusted Ivanka with real authority she would be running Trump Org., and not Beavis & Butthead
He’s even given Jared more responsibility than Ivanka.
Ivanka is in the White House to perform the high level FLOTUS tasks, To be his lil’ show pony

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2019 • 9:20:49pm

re: #92 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

No. If he trusted Ivanka with real authority she would be running Trump Org., and not Beavis & Butthead
He’s even given Jared more responsibility than Ivanka.
Ivanka is in the White House to perform the high level FLOTUS tasks, To be his lil’ show pony

Ah true. You make valid points. Either way, what he’s doing and done to our country brings me to the point of a combined anger and sadness that’s hard to describe in words.

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austin_blue  Sep 10, 2019 • 9:30:37pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

They treated Obama like a tyrant for wanting to make health care more affordable using a Republican inspired plan. And I’ll never forget or forgive that. Not to mention the treatment of Michelle and the girls. They simply could not accept that the country liked Obama so they had to delegitimize him.

I would change the word in the last sentence to “domonize” him. They made him into a monster. Now that we have a POTUS who is an absolute disaster of a human being and leader of the country, they are just piling on to make it worse.

Like I said, mouthbreathing fuckwits.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 10, 2019 • 9:35:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2019 • 9:39:28pm

re: #95 Dread Pirate

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JFC.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2019 • 9:41:46pm

re: #94 austin_blue

I would change the word in the last sentence to “domonize” him. They made him into a monster. Now that we have a POTUS who is an absolute disaster of a human being and leader of the country, they are just piling on to make it worse.

Like I said, mouthbreathing fuckwits.

It’s ironic isn’t it? Everything they said Obama was, Trump is. Hell I could even joke Trump is a secret Muslim due to his not drinking booze and love of the Saudi government. I won’t obviously since I don’t believe that but goddamn. Just goddamn. I’m so sick thinking about all this.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 9:42:21pm

Poor woman who posts YouTube videos about animals was confused with Kim Iverson the “journalist” (has a camera) who does apologetics videos for Tulsi Gabbard.

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austin_blue  Sep 10, 2019 • 9:46:31pm

Welp, I’m off to bed.

Not sorry to see the ‘Stache go, but loved that the Mango Metamusellini did his usual Full On Coward removal of a senior staff member. At least the pussy ass bitch is consistent.

He got pummeled today in the Press, which should result in some epic shit-tweeting this morning.

One waits with bated breath.

Night all. Sweet dreams.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2019 • 9:49:04pm

I should call it a night too. Night guys.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 9:59:07pm

re: #99 austin_blue

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Well, then if everyone is leaving, I will too.

Good-night, AB and HW.

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Belafon  Sep 10, 2019 • 9:59:56pm

According to twitter, Ted Lieu liked this one.

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Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2019 • 10:12:21pm

re: #102 Belafon

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According to twitter, Ted Lieu liked this one.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 10, 2019 • 10:19:36pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 10:32:28pm

re: #102 Belafon

According to twitter, Ted Lieu liked this one.

Jerry Falwell, Jr. will do no such thing (go to the FBI). If he does, he’ll be laughed out of the office.

Publishing a photograph you took in a public place is not “a leak.” However, the Evangelical right-wing will get an outrage bone for a couple days.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 10:34:13pm

So this happened today in North Carolina. In drafting district maps to comply with the courts, the state senate called in state lottery officials to randomly pick one of the maps to be submitted. The claim is there can be no assertion of partisanship. (That would depend on how the maps were drawn: If they were all gerrymandered, a lottery pick means bupkis.)

Video, 0:31

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Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2019 • 10:40:44pm

re: #33 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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Hot takes coming in.

Repub barely pulls off a win in a special election after spending double what the Dem did, in a ruby red district where he should have been able to sit at home and eat donuts for the entire race. And yet this is supposed to be a sign that the Dems need to forego a progressive candidate and adopt a Repub-lite one.

Fucking hell.

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teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2019 • 10:43:34pm

re: #107 Targetpractice

Repub barely pulls off a win in a special election after spending double what the Dem did, in a ruby red district where he should have been able to sit at home and eat donuts for the entire race. And yet this is supposed to be a sign that the Dems need to forego a progressive candidate and adopt a Repub-lite one.

Fucking hell.

I’m trying to say…

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 10:47:46pm

re: #107 Targetpractice

Repub barely pulls off a win in a special election after spending double what the Dem did, in a ruby red district where he should have been able to sit at home and eat donuts for the entire race. And yet this is supposed to be a sign that the Dems need to forego a progressive candidate and adopt a Repub-lite one.

Fucking hell.

I’m not sure how a special election which does not change the makeup of the House at all means bupkis anyway.

No party wins every election. The idea that the Democratic Party needs to change its strategy based on one of 435 seats (particularly when the 2018 election was a blowout for the Democrats) is ludicrous.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 10:49:01pm

re: #108 teleskiguy

I’m trying to say…

How’d you get privacy button to say what you wanted?

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teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2019 • 10:54:01pm

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Some slight editing of code. So slight no one even notices.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 10, 2019 • 10:55:22pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2019 • 10:56:15pm

re: #111 teleskiguy

Some slight editing of code. So slight no one even notices.

Except you, Anymouse!

Here, have a song. It is fun.

None of Them Knew They Were Robots

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 10:59:36pm

re: #111 teleskiguy

Some slight editing of code. So slight no one even notices.

Well, I still have the code text Mr. Johnson wrote for spinning comments. I can figure out how to change the text in that, but I have no idea how to change any other code (‘cause dumb).

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 11:04:05pm

Of course, the North Carolina senate could have rigged the lotto map draw if they cheated with the lotto balls:

1980 Pennsylvania Lottery scandal (goes to Wikipedia)

I hope the lotto balls were independently checked for weight.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 11:06:08pm

Sure he can, Ms. Jong-Fast. It’s what conservatives do.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 11:14:17pm

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹🎃

This is what Ms. Jong-Fast is responding to:

Bolton is a leftist. By tomorrow Trump will wind up tweeting this and the entire Conservative Religion will believe what their prelate has decreed.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 10, 2019 • 11:32:31pm

I just went out to lower the flags for 9/11.

I got pulled over by a deputy sheriff in the alley next to the park. (He followed me from my house.)

He wanted to know what I was doing, so I told him. He asked if he could help. “Sure.”

He got out of his car and rendered a hand salute as I lowered the flag to half-staff. He then followed me over to the village hall and did the same there.

He then asked about the Gold Star Family plate, which I explained; asked if I’d been in the military (yes), and thanked us both for our service (sigh). I thanked him for helping with the flags.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:02:57am

On the Jerry Falwell, Jr. club photo incident where he threatened to call the FBI … the FBI has a response:

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Dread Pirate  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:20:33am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:29:59am
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:32:00am

re: #120 Dread Pirate

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There’s also the matter of pissing off an ascendent World Power, which is an outcome nobody with dreams of selling into the Chinese domestic market relishes. They’ve already shown how much leverage they can bring to bear on US farmers, the last thing most corporate boardrooms want right now is to give Beijing a reason to view their companies as acting on behalf of Trump.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:43:13am

re: #122 goddamnedfrank

There’s also the matter of pissing off an ascendent World Power, which is an outcome nobody with dreams of selling into the Chinese domestic market relishes. They’ve already shown how much leverage they can bring to bear on US farmers, the last thing most corporate boardrooms want right now is to give Beijing a reason to view their companies as acting on behalf of Trump.

Moreover, China can bring more woe to bear on any House district which went for Trump. China doesn’t have to worry too much about things like public opinion if imposing retaliatory tariffs or outright refusing to trade in certain sectors of the USA market.

The idea that “China could sink the US Dollar or the US economy by dumping Treasury bills” always seemed unlikely to me. Sure they could, but there are more effective and faster ways to do it (like what they’re doing now).

Unfortunately, the GOP is fine with carving up the USA and selling it off for parts, as long as they get their cut and remain in power.

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teleskiguy  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:43:55am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:47:33am

A Special Request: Pitch In (goes to Juanita Jean’s: The World’s Most Dangerous Beauty Salon)

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We are having a special election in Texas for a State House seat vacated by a Republican who thought he might have problems winning again. He was part of Texodus - Republican incumbents dropping like flies.

The special election is Tuesday, November 5th. In Texas, a special election is a free for all - everybody runs and it’s winner take all. If nobody wins with 50% plus one, there will be a run-off between the top two vote getters.

Republicans are running six candidates. Six. In political science terms that’s officially referred to as a crap shoot. The sole Democratic candidate is Eliz Markowitz. Yeah, yeah, it’s hard to believe that Democrats got our act together and fielded only one candidate so that the Democratic vote isn’t split six ways to hell and back.

I know Eliz personally and I am asking you to toss a few dollars her way. She’s smart as the dickens and has all the right bright ideas. She’s hardworking and willing to do her part. She’ll make you proud.

This is a flippable district and will give the winner a leg-up on the 2020 election. Texas redistricting happens every ten years and 2020 is the year. So, we have a real chance in this seat but she needs money now to get the vote out. Send her some damn money.

Then email her with your best wishes and to let her know that you’re not some weirdo in Montana stalking her. Eliz@Eliz4TX.com

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:53:47am

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹🎃

The GOP is running six candidates?

Good lord. It some of them don’t drop out before November 5th, I can foresee a situation where they all end up splitting the vote and Markowitz gets an outright win because it’s 50% + 1.

I can’t help but think the GOP is getting increasingly nervous about their prospects in Texas - if they lose Texas, it’s pretty much all over for them as a national party.

On a side note, got around to watching the Season 3 premiere of The Deuce yesterday evening, and it was great. Looks like this is gonna be a great final season for one of the most criminally underappreciated shows on TV.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:59:13am

re: #126 Dr Lizardo

The GOP is running six candidates?

Good lord. It some of them don’t drop out before November 5th, I can foresee a situation where they all end up splitting the vote and Markowitz gets an outright win because it’s 50% + 1.

I can’t help but think the GOP is getting increasingly nervous about their prospects in Texas - if they lose Texas, it’s pretty much all over for them as a national party.

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Well, six different people running in the GOP sounds just like conservatives to me: All think they are the chosen one of their conservative religion, and none will cede power to others since conservatism is about gaining and maintaining power, never sharing it.

I don’t live in Texas so I don’t know if Ms. Juanita’s assessment is correct, but she is right there to gauge the local mood. Moreover, a whole bunch of Texas Republicans have decided to take a powder. (It appears they seem to think they will lose.)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:04:14am

re: #126 Dr Lizardo

This is Texas House District 28.
texastribune.org

It is just west of Sugar Land, so it’s in Juanita Jean’s stomping grounds.

This is Dr. Eliz Markowitz’s Act Blue donation page for the special election:
secure.actblue.com

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:48:41am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:06:05am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:10:04am

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹🎃

ted cruz meeting with Alyssa_Milano on gun control

Ted Cruz may be a self-righteous, sanctimonious twit, but he does seem to be capable of a civil discussion, which is rare in his party these days.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:32:57am

Jamal Khashoggi ‘murder recording transcript’ is published (goes to the BBC, more at the link):

A Turkish newspaper has published new details of a recording which reportedly captured the final moments of murdered Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

The prominent government critic was killed in Saudi Arabia’s consulate in Istanbul last October.

The pro-government Sabah newspaper says the transcript is from a recording taken inside and later obtained by Turkish intelligence.

It includes information such as the journalist’s alleged last words.

Khashoggi wrote a column for the Washington Post newspaper and was based in the US before his disappearance.

He was last seen entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on 2 October 2018 to obtain papers he needed to marry his Turkish fiancée.

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Alephnaught  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:44:01am

Another day in Brexit-land, another shit-hits-the-fan moment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:53:21am

re: #133 Alephnaught

Another day in Brexit-land, another shit-hits-the-fan moment.

A pro-rogue nation!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:55:38am

It’s 0500 in hurricane-ravaged Alabama, and Wife and I are starting our evacuation. Comments will be sketchy as we make our way to dry land in Arizona.

Anymouse—you have my email in a comment from a day or so ago. We might be ale to do some route shift on this trip or next.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:56:54am

re: #135 Decatur Deb

It’s 0500 in hurricane-ravaged Alabama, and Wife and I are starting our evacuation. Emails will be sketchy as we make our way to dry land in Arizona.

Anymouse—you have my email in a comment from a day or so ago. We might be ale to do some route shift on this trip or next.

Too late, a Pacific Tsunami is expected to swamp Yuma in the next 24 hours

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:57:43am

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Too late, a Pacific Tsunami is expected to swamp Yuma in the next 24 hours

Damn. Missed the sharpie edit.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:58:05am

re: #135 Decatur Deb

It’s 0500 in hurricane-ravaged Alabama, and Wife and I are starting our evacuation. Emails will be sketchy as we make our way to dry land in Arizona.

Anymouse—you have my email in a comment from a day or so ago. We might be ale to do some route shift on this trip or next.

Hey, have a safe trip. My E-mail is behind the privacy bar. My wife’s E-mail and our home phone number are in my profile.

57DvsHnauYy52IUAT93i6Yj9Elsj6WKZgkT0RRMEMEDx8T3WCKJlFeonNLqRot/r

I hope we can get together. My wife and I had a good time with Ipsos and Ms. Ipsos when we were in New York.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:18:57am

Not my favourite place to link (Fox & Friends Facebook page), but they have the article I’m looking for here.

(video, 3:10 with an interview of the film makers now exempt from public accommodation laws because they are Christians)

A so-called religious liberty case was brought in 2017 against a pair of film makers in Minnesota who film events such as weddings. They refused to film a wedding because of Teh Geyh.

Minnesota courts ruled the film makers violated public access and state human rights law.

Enter Christian legal people to carry the case forward on their behalf (Alliance Defending Freedom, a group which argues legal cases to impose theocracy on the nation). A Federal appeals court overturned the Minnesota courts, arguing their I Amendment right to freedom of religion was unfairly restricted by Minnesota human rights laws.

Just looking up the case, churches across the spectrum from moderate so-called mainline Protestants and Catholics to the fundamentalist evangelical churches are all praising the ruling as a victory for religious freedom (over human rights).

I can see the day coming when I won’t be able to go grocery shopping within a hundred miles because I am Teh Geyh adjacent (my sister and everyone here knows that) or because I an atheist.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:37:50am

re: #133 Alephnaught

Another day in Brexit-land, another shit-hits-the-fan moment.

This ruling means that

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:41:56am

re: #140 Dr Lizardo

This ruling means that

he goes to the Tower of London for an extended stay?

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Varek Raith  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:48:27am

Good morning.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:49:32am

re: #141 Anymouse 🌹🎃

he goes to the Tower of London for an extended stay?

Heh.

I’m seeing news that some MP’s are apparently seriously considering heading back to Parliament as this ruling from the Scottish Court has found that Boris’ prorogation of Parliament is “null and void”.

I’m tellin’ ya - the HBO series of this fiasco is gonna make Chernobyl look like Sleeping Beauty.

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Varek Raith  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:52:11am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:58:50am

re: #144 Varek Raith

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Follow request sent. @michele_out

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Varek Raith  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:03:30am

re: #144 Varek Raith

Feel free to keep following my old account. That is, if you don’t mind weird gaming and vtuber shit. :)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:07:11am

re: #143 Dr Lizardo

Heh.

I’m seeing news that some MP’s are apparently seriously considering heading back to Parliament as this ruling from the Scottish Court has found that Boris’ prorogation of Parliament is “null and void”.

I’m tellin’ ya - the HBO series of this fiasco is gonna make Chernobyl look like Sleeping Beauty.

Chernobyl II: Westminster Edition, where a radioactive glow-in-the-dark Sleeping Beauty kicks butt and takes names in the House of Commons

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steve_davis  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:30:50am

re: #10 b.d.

BUT FOXNEWS SAID THAT FARMERS WERE CHEERFUL & THANKFUL AND THAT THE CROPS WERE ABUNDANT THIS YEAR

don’t ask me. i live in one of the red states. Mrs. Mcready drew this year’s black dot, and we proceeded to stone her to help grant a successful crop.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:37:34am

re: #148 steve_davis

don’t ask me. i live in one of the red states. Mrs. Mcready drew this year’s black dot, and we proceeded to stone her to help grant a successful crop.

Here we have the Children of the Corn, who sacrifice tourists.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:49:55am

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Here we have the Children of the Corn, who sacrifice tourists.

Here, there’s Radegast, said to be the pagan Slavic god of hospitality (though no one really knows 100% - it’s been speculated that he could also have been a deity of war, night, fire and the evening sky).

That statue of him isn’t all that far from where I live, actually. On Radhošť mountain, about 50 km south from me.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:51:34am

Well, I’m off to bed.

This was an exciting night, being pulled over by a sheriff’s deputy in an alley one block from my house at 12:30 in the morning.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:52:33am

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

He (?) looks like something out of Thailand.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:57:13am

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

Here, there’s Radegast, said to be the pagan Slavic god of hospitality (though no one really knows 100% - it’s been speculated that he could also have been a deity of war, night, fire and the evening sky).

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That statue of him isn’t all that far from where I live, actually. On Radhošť mountain, about 50 km south from me.

He’s cool looking.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:58:18am

Brexshyte continues:

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:01:39am

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Most likely, they’re waiting for the UK’s Supreme Court to have their say. Which makes sense, to be honest. If the SCOTUK rules that the prorogation was obtained under false pretenses (IOW, Boris lied to the Queen) and therefore is null and void, then things could get……highly interesting.

Or who knows? We’ll have to wait until next week to see how that goes.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:04:28am

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Well, six different people running in the GOP sounds just like conservatives to me: All think they are the chosen one of their conservative religion, and none will cede power to others since conservatism is about gaining and maintaining power, never sharing it.

I don’t live in Texas so I don’t know if Ms. Juanita’s assessment is correct, but she is right there to gauge the local mood. Moreover, a whole bunch of Texas Republicans have decided to take a powder. (It appears they seem to think they will lose.)

The big thing that happened in 2018 here is the state House went from being a supermajority Republican to them just having a majority. Hopefully, because the Democrats begin to taste victory and Trump, more seats will flip.

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jeffreyw  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:11:45am

Good morning!

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:23:38am

Weezer just dropped a new track.

Weezer - The End Of The Game (Official Video)

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:01:11am

re: #47 goddamnedfrank

Just FYI, subscribing to my block list would have significantly cut down on the deluge.

Thanks.

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MsJ  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:08:56am

re: #47 goddamnedfrank

Just FYI, subscribing to my block list would have significantly cut down on the deluge.

The best thing about this list is the follower count. Block everyone with a large following to keep you from getting attacked like Teleskiguy did (that happened to me before, too), because those with large followings are the worst in terms of scorching your mentions.

Getting rid of them now is a lot easier than having to deal with 1000+ assholes individually later.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:10:46am
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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:20:30am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It’s 9/11. The day is reminiscent in some respects of that fateful day 18 years ago. Commuting to work with a loved one, looking out at a sunny sky, but instead of twin towers, there’s just a solitary skyscraper there. 1WTC. The Freedom Tower.

But what exactly do people remember about the day? What about it still resonates? What about those who were there and saw it in person, or smelled the indescribable smell that hung over Lower Manhattan for months afterwards?

I have written endlessly about the WTC, Ground Zero, the rebuilding process, and my thoughts about the entirety of the event. I’ve written about it here and at my old blog. I don’t write at my old place anymore, but this is what I wrote on the 15th anniversary.

In the three years since I wrote that, I remember that I rode in with my dad on the fateful morning and that I left him in Hoboken to take my PATH train to the West Village, while he would take PATH to the WTC.

He never got on PATH. He stayed in Hoboken. He watched from there. I wouldn’t know that for more than an hour, as phone lines jammed as everyone in NYC metro was on the phone simultaneously trying to figure out who was where and if you were safe. It was total chaos and unnerving to so many. And then the silence after the towers fell and that the only sounds heard across much of the city was sirens of emergency vehicles flooding towards lower Manhattan as NYPD and FDNY and emergency personnnel from the entire region went to help those who went into the towers to fight the fires and rescue people. 343 firefighters were killed on 9/11. 23 NYPD were killed. 37 PAPD and NJ PD were killed. 8 EMT from other emergency services were killed.

But the toll continues to this day. Hundreds have died since of 9/11 related ailments. In fact, we’re close to the number who have died of 9/11 ailments as those who died on 9/11 itself.

The GOP fought tooth and nail to prevent passage of the Zadroga Act to help those first responders. They fought and delayed passage of its extension. They fought and delayed making it permanent. They had to be shamed into action.

So when you see GOPers like Trump honor first responders, know that it is only about using them as props - the moment the cameras are shut, the GOP don’t care, because they never cared. Had they cared, they’d have done so much more so much sooner.

Construction at the WTC continues to this day. 2WTC is still just a stub and the developers are looking for an anchor tenant. The old Deutsche Bank building site is still in development, but the performing arts center is underway and the transit hub and shopping mall is done.

The museum is there, as is the memorial. I urge those who haven’t visited NYC to see the memorial; I can’t bring myself to go the museum - too many bad memories of the day. I can picture it all.

And yet we have a guy in the WH who thinks only of events like 9/11 about how he lied about having the tallest building in Manhattan or NYC (he didn’t), made up conspiracies about Muslims celebrating, and a host of other nonsense. He even made today’s memorial about him (posting photo of him and Melania in silhouette looking out over Shanksville). It’s not about those who lost loved ones or who were murdered. It’s about how he can promote himself and his brand. Heck, his first tweets this morning were about polling poorly. This is how a sociopath thinks.

This is not what we need.

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DangerMan  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:29:03am

Totally stolen

Look Trump has taken a decisive move to clarify and clear the record on Bolton …he fired Bolton …

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MsJ  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:30:14am

re: #163 DangerMan

Totally stolen

Look Trump has taken a decisive move to clarify and clear the record on Bolton …he fired Bolton …

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Why does this even matter? What am I missing?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:31:22am

re: #115 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Of course, the North Carolina senate could have rigged the lotto map draw if they cheated with the lotto balls:

1980 Pennsylvania Lottery scandal (goes to Wikipedia)

I hope the lotto balls were independently checked for weight.

Yep. Mom watched that INFAMOUS lotto draw and said that she only saw the 4 and 6 balls bouncing. She said it was rigged.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:32:21am

re: #164 MsJ

Trump wants to show that he’s in control, so firing him instead of letting him resign shows who controls the situation. Trump is so vain and such a snowflake that he can’t let alone else take control of a situation such as the firing/resignation. Trump also can’t fire anyone personally because he doesn’t know how to do something without a script telling him what to say. For a guy whose reality tv schtick was “you’re fired”, he’s awful at personnel decisions. Hiring and firing.

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makeitstop  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:32:44am

This GIF needs a theme song.

Imgur

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:36:14am

Pepperdine again has the Wave of Flags display on 9/11. One national flag for each victim. 90 flags from other nations. 9/11 was an attack on us all. Every decent human being.

pepperdine.edu

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:36:49am

What a dream last night…

Turned on the TV wanting to watch the Three Stooges and here comes the music…but it’s the Three Fox And Friends assholes slapping and poking each others eyes out…With Steve Doocey doing the woo woo woos…

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:59:27am

re: #168 Rightwingconspirator

9/11 has become, after the passage of 18 years, something of a theme recently on alt-history discussion boards, usually, “What if 9/11 never happened?” and variants of that theme.

As something of a casual aficionado of alternative history, for me, it’s an interesting point to ponder.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2019 • 7:00:22am

re: #146 Varek Raith

Feel free to keep following my old account. That is, if you don’t mind weird gaming and vtuber shit. :)

I followed you but since your account is protected you will have to approve.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 11, 2019 • 7:02:21am

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2019 • 7:05:52am

Who wants to jump on the grenade & watch this?

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2019 • 7:15:59am

Here is how POS45 observes 9/11

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DangerMan  Sep 11, 2019 • 7:23:04am

re: #166 lawhawk

Trump wants to show that he’s in control, so firing him instead of letting him resign shows who controls the situation. Trump is so vain and such a snowflake that he can’t let alone else take control of a situation such as the firing/resignation. Trump also can’t fire anyone personally because he doesn’t know how to do something without a script telling him what to say. For a guy whose reality tv schtick was “you’re fired”, he’s awful at personnel decisions. Hiring and firing.

and sharpie-gate. it’s indelible.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 7:34:52am

re: #174 The Pie Overlord!

Here is how POS45 observes 9/11

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He’s such a miserable asshole. I’m so glad he wasn’t President when 9/11 happened. He would have made things much worse.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2019 • 7:36:45am
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Belafon  Sep 11, 2019 • 7:37:04am

re: #174 The Pie Overlord!

Here is how POS45 observes 9/11

First two and a half years:
Obama: Recovered from recession
Bush 2: 9/11
Clinton: Recovered from recession
Bush 1: Gulf War.

Trump: Scandals.

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DangerMan  Sep 11, 2019 • 7:37:46am

re: #174 The Pie Overlord!

Here is how POS45 observes 9/11

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aside from giving rich people a tax cut, what have you done?

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plansbandc  Sep 11, 2019 • 7:43:07am

re: #176 HappyWarrior

The world would be in ashes right now had he been.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 7:43:09am

re: #177 lawhawk

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He always says so little. Oh and dumbass the people who did 9/11 don’t care about your bragging. You want to prevent future 9/11’s. Weaken their soft power and you do that by not being a dickhead.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 7:43:28am

re: #180 plansbandc

The world would be in ashes right now had he been.

It would be.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 11, 2019 • 7:54:10am

Cops searching for couple accused of vandalizing sacred Native American site

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DangerMan  Sep 11, 2019 • 7:54:23am

in the “i dont know what to believe anymore and none of this would surprise me department”:

CBS News reports: “Aggravation over Iran and the Taliban had intensified recently as Mr. Trump wanted a meeting to take place at Camp David and is open to a meeting with Iran’s president. But three sources directly involved tell CBS News White House correspondent Major Garrett that the main irritant that drove Mr. Trump to distraction was his belief that Bolton or those close to Bolton leaked a story about Mr. Trump asking about whether nuclear weapons could be used to abate hurricanes.”

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2019 • 7:57:44am
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DangerMan  Sep 11, 2019 • 7:58:07am

Multiple People Stabbed At Florida Industrial Park

It wasn’t immediately clear how many people were injured. Tallahassee Memorial HealthCare said in a statement that it had received six people from the incident and was evaluating their conditions.

“The suspect is in custody,”

apparently no one dead

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:03:31am

Fort Worth police say mass shooting prevented by father who reported own son

Police in Fort Worth said Tuesday that a mass shooting was averted after they received a call from a father who reported his own son.

The father said that his 27-year-old son wanted to buy guns and go on a rampage, according to our sister station KXAS.

“He wanted to kill many people. He wanted to do something that was very similar that took place in the Midland-Odessa area and he basically wanted to mimic that,” said Ofc. Buddy Calzada with the Fort Worth Police Department.

According to local police, the man withdrew between $600 and $700 and then went to several shops to by guns. He was denied because he failed background checks.

“The great part is that somebody, which would be the father in this case, was able to reach out to police with valid information and we were able to do something very significant,” Calzada said.

Police say the man has had multiple interactions with law enforcement and was diagnosed with several mental health issues.

He is now at a local clinic receiving treatment.

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Disloyal Archangel  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:08:11am
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sagehen  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:09:03am

re: #170 Dr Lizardo

9/11 has become, after the passage of 18 years, something of a theme recently on alt-history discussion boards, usually, “What if 9/11 never happened?” and variants of that theme.

As something of a casual aficionado of alternative history, for me, it’s an interesting point to ponder.

Or…

If Bush v Gore had gone otherwise.

Would Gore have paid attention to Richard Clarke and John O’Neill and taken appropriate action to prevent 9/11? Or would it have happened anyway and it been hung around Democrats’ necks for generations? Would President Gore have done appropriate follow-through in Tora Bora instead of getting sidetracked by Iraq, and caught Bin Laden within a few months? Would Iran’s considerable assistance in our original invasion of Aghanistan provided a basis for improving our relations with them?

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sagehen  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:12:30am

re: #179 DangerMan

aside from giving rich people a tax cut, what have you done?

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Installed hundreds of Federalist Society judges. Supreme Court, Appellate Courts, District Courts. Almost half of whom are actually qualified to be judges.

Really more McConnell’s doing than Trump’s, but he did wield the pen.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:19:24am

The world witnessed the power of American defiance.

I had to read that a couple times to figure out what the fuck Trump meant by that. I still don’t know. I don’t think he knows either. American resilience to be sure, but defiance? We were laid low on 9/11.

Because on 9/11, we got hit by a small group of terrorists who exploited all kinds of failures in security, intel, and killed nearly 3,000 directly and had opportunity to kill thousands more had the towers fallen across lower Manhattan instead of essentially within the WTC site.

After 9/11, we learned that the US would strike out at Iraq and minimized the effort to go after al Qaeda, which carried out the attack, or the Taliban, who harbored the al Qaeda leaders. Trump now invited and disinvited Taliban from Camp David just this past week.

What defiance did the world witness? That Americans would lash out at completely unrelated bad actors? That we’d waste resources and capital on endless war with uncertain results? That we’d engage in nonstop security theater ever since?

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makeitstop  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:21:02am

re: #177 lawhawk

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Is it me, or is he sedated like a motherfucker?

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:21:31am

re: #191 lawhawk

We did defy the attempt by the world to bring everyone together after the tragedy and act like a single community with shared interests, so there’s that.

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sagehen  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:21:44am

re: #191 lawhawk

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What defiance did the world witness? That Americans would lash out at completely unrelated bad actors? That we’d waste resources and capital on endless war with uncertain results? That we’d engage in nonstop security theater ever since?

FREEDUMB FRIES!!

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KGxvi  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:22:06am

re: #189 sagehen

Or…

If Bush v Gore had gone otherwise.

Would Gore have paid attention to Richard Clarke and John O’Neill and taken appropriate action to prevent 9/11? Or would it have happened anyway and it been hung around Democrats’ necks for generations? Would President Gore have done appropriate follow-through in Tora Bora instead of getting sidetracked by Iraq, and caught Bin Laden within a few months? Would Iran’s considerable assistance in our original invasion of Aghanistan provided a basis for improving our relations with them?

It’s been a while, but I believe some of the hijackers had been in the US for over a year before the attack. So it’s likely it still would have happened. We likely don’t go into Iraq, but it is entirely possible that Saddam Hussein dies of natural causes in the ensuing decade (he was 69 when executed) and Iraq devolves into a civil war as his sons fight for control - one which destabilizes the region and possibly sees other powers in the region enter the war (and given our alliances, possibly sees us enter).

Afghanistan remains the real question. Would there have been some sort of Marshall Plan for Afghanistan, or would we be fixated on an exit strategy no matter what?

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DangerMan  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:24:15am

re: #191 lawhawk

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The world witnessed the power of American defiance.

I had to read that a couple times to figure out what the fuck Trump meant by that. I still don’t know. I don’t think he knows either. American resilience to be sure, but defiance? We were laid low on 9/11.

Because on 9/11, we got hit by a small group of terrorists who exploited all kinds of failures in security, intel, and killed nearly 3,000 directly and had opportunity to kill thousands more had the towers fallen across lower Manhattan instead of essentially within the WTC site.

After 9/11, we learned that the US would strike out at Iraq and minimized the effort to go after al Qaeda, which carried out the attack, or the Taliban, who harbored the al Qaeda leaders. Trump now invited and disinvited Taliban from Camp David just this past week.

What defiance did the world witness? That Americans would lash out at completely unrelated bad actors? That we’d waste resources and capital on endless war with uncertain results? That we’d engage in nonstop security theater ever since?

and whatever gains were subsequently made to address those failures, trump and to a large extent bolton have torn them apart

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:24:17am
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Citizen K  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:26:16am

re: #197 lawhawk

And we’ll see if the NCGOP succeeds in making a mockery of the re-mapping efforts, because they may just succeed at doing that too because absolute power only seems to beget absolute power these days.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:32:19am

re: #196 DangerMan

and whatever gains were subsequently made to address those failures, trump and to a large extent bolton have torn them apart

It really is a good thing that Bolton is gone. I know some are worried about getting someone worse, but Bolton is the worse; he is desperate to start a war, any war, but he really, really wants a war with Iran. salon.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:33:09am

re: #187 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

You mean background checks work?!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:37:28am

re: #198 Citizen K

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And we’ll see if the NCGOP succeeds in making a mockery of the re-mapping efforts, because they may just succeed at doing that too because absolute power only seems to beget absolute power these days.

They are making a mockery of it, but fortunately the court planned for that, and since its decision is entirely based on the state constitution, there is no appeal for the GOP to take. NC will have fairly drawn districts in 2020, even if a master commissioner has to draw them.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:47:40am

RUDY LETS HIS FASCIST FREAK FLY

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:49:51am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:53:38am

re: #200 GlutenFreeJesus

You mean background checks work?!

Not if you buy privately…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:54:15am

Fuck NC Republicans. FUCK ALL OF THEM.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:55:40am

Imagine if Obama…

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:55:51am

re: #205 Eclectic Cyborg

Fuck NC Republicans. FUCK ALL OF THEM.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:56:32am
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William Lewis  Sep 11, 2019 • 8:57:12am

New Green Day lp drops Feb 7, 2020. First track out today &, it’s, uh, a bit different :)

Green Day - Father Of All…(Official Audio)

Lyrics according to Youtube:

I woke up to a message of love/choking up on the smoke from above/I’m obsessed with the poison and us/what a mess because there’s no one to trust

Huh uh Come on honey/huh uh count your money/huh uh what’s so funny? there’s a riot living inside of us

I got paranoia baby/and it’s so hysterical/cracking up under the pressure/looking for a miracle

Huh uh come on honey lying in a bed of blood and money
Huh uh what’s so funny?
We are rivals in the riot inside us

I’m impressed with the presence of none
I’m possessed by the heat of the sun
Hurry up cause I’m making a fuss
Fingers up 🖕🖕🖕
Cause there’s no one to trust

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:01:47am

re: #206 The Pie Overlord!

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William Lewis  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:04:02am

re: #208 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’d be surprised if that were anything other than a movie prop. Transferable M2HB’s are obscenely expensive ($25k & up) and I just don’t imagine even a fool gun nut leaving one out like that. That mount is one designed for .30 cal too so it wouldn’t hold up to .50 cal recoil (why yes, I was in a gun jeep scout platoon once upon a lifetime ago. We had goddamn worn out M-60’s because the M151 jeep couldn’t handle M-2’s. ).

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:05:32am

re: #208 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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makeitstop  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:06:46am

re: #209 William Lewis

New Green Day lp drops Feb 7, 2020. First track out today &, it’s, uh, a bit different :)

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Video

Lyrics according to Youtube:

I woke up to a message of love/choking up on the smoke from above/I’m obsessed with the poison and us/what a mess because there’s no one to trust

Huh uh Come on honey/huh uh count your money/huh uh what’s so funny? there’s a riot living inside of us

I got paranoia baby/and it’s so hysterical/cracking up under the pressure/looking for a miracle

Huh uh come on honey lying in a bed of blood and money
Huh uh what’s so funny?
We are rivals in the riot inside us

I’m impressed with the presence of none
I’m possessed by the heat of the sun
Hurry up cause I’m making a fuss
Fingers up 🖕🖕🖕
Cause there’s no one to trust

Kind of reminds me of Foxboro Hot Tubs.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:08:03am
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Dread Pirate  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:08:40am
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jaunte  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:14:19am
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:14:41am

re: #214 lawhawk

Welp.

Tweet you responded to consolidates everything that fucks with me about US views of 9/11 and guns.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:15:38am
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:22:04am

re: #207 The Pie Overlord!

Fuck NC Republicans. FUCK ALL OF THEM

Yep. This not a Trump thing or NC thing — it’s the entire Republican Party that is hostile to democracy; that disenfranchises minorities whenever it has a majority. Before Newt there were some decent Republicans in Washington — but now? no way. This is no different from the Brexit debacle and Johnson’s prorogation of Parliament. An effort to silence dissenters — a la the Putin approach though, so far, without the polonium and defenestration.

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DangerMan  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:22:24am

re: #212 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

the country is not insane
it merely tolerates insane people.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:23:24am

re: #220 DangerMan

I’m at the vet. There’s a guy here in a USA T-shirt with a diseased dog and a 50cal M2 MACHINE GUN mounted in the back of his truck and what the actual fuck?

Just waiting for an excuse to turn the USA into the next Somalia

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DangerMan  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:25:24am

re: #215 Dread Pirate

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from this am’s electoral-vote.com:

- Despite the trade war, the trade gap with China is growing

- The trade gap with other major trade partners is also growing

- Business investment was down sharply in Q2

- The New York Fed announced this week that it predicts a 1-in-3 chance of a recession in the next 12 months, its most bearish prediction since 2007 (when, in fact, a recession did happen)

- In August, the U.S. manufacturing sector shrunk for the first time in three years

- Also in August, job growth slowed significantly, with the result that the U.S. is averaging 143,000/month this year compared to 208,000/month last year

- It was just announced that the number of uninsured Americans rose last year, the first time that’s happened since the adoption of the ACA

- The Senate is arguing bitterly about next year’s spending bills, specifically wall money and abortion coverage, and another government shutdown is possible

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:26:08am
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DangerMan  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:27:05am

re: #219 Hecuba’s daughter

Yep. This not a Trump thing or NC thing — it’s the entire Republican Party that is hostile to democracy; that disenfranchises minorities whenever it has a majority. Before Newt there were some decent Republicans in Washington — but now? no way. This is no different from the Brexit debacle and Johnson’s prorogation of Parliament. An effort to silence dissenters — a la the Putin approach though, so far, without the polonium and defenestration.

any means to get what we want

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:28:00am
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DangerMan  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:28:22am

re: #223 jaunte

theresa, the current president had nothing to do with 9/11

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:30:24am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:30:30am

re: #223 jaunte

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Did he do that? He’s the one whining about polls today. So no I won’t stop bashing Trump today. Today is yet another example of why he’s unfit. He bragged about his building size after 9/11,

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Dread Pirate  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:30:31am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:30:54am

re: #227 The Pie Overlord!

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Disgusting

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:33:18am

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:34:22am

Remind me again why we got rid of the Iran Deal? Oh right, Trump can’t stsnd Obama having a positive legacy.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:36:05am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:37:32am

re: #233 lawhawk

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Trump isn’t a dove. He’s not a neoconservative but neither is Henry Kissinger.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:38:03am

Of course it came from the top. Trump needs to show everyone who’s boss no matter the lie he spews and the chaos he sows with his lies (forcing NWS Birmingham to issue clear tweet indicating AL was not in Dorian’s path).

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:39:01am

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Trump is a reactionary know nothing. He will bomb and attack based on whatever voices flitter in his ear.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:39:02am

re: #220 DangerMan

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the country is not insane
it merely tolerates insane people.

That’s insane :-)

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:40:03am

Fucker. You denied healthcare for 9/11 first responders.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:40:21am

Christina-Taylor Green was born on September 11, 2001, and shot and killed at the Tucson shooting at the Gabby Giffords event on January 8, 2011.

Christina should be turning 18 today.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:40:40am

re: #236 lawhawk

Trump is a reactionary know nothing. He will bomb and attack based on whatever voices flitter in his ear.

Exactly

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DangerMan  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:42:07am

re: #233 lawhawk

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there aint no plan
there is never a plan

no long game, no strategy, no deep thought, no consideration of consequences

there is only flailing

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DangerMan  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:44:49am

re: #235 lawhawk

“the few remaining shreds of american integrity were saved by the NWS”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:47:10am

I’ll take the day off from bashing Trump as soon as he takes a day off from bashing people like me.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:47:23am

re: #242 DangerMan

“the few remaining shreds of american integrity were saved by the NWS”

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I have to admit. I knew Trump would be awful. I didn’t see this one. So I wonder, what’s next?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:47:58am

re: #243 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ll take the day off from bashing Trump as soon as he takes a day off from bashing people like me.

Or siding with dictators. His admiration of dictators is disgusting.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:48:11am

re: #242 DangerMan

“the few remaining shreds of american integrity were saved by the NWS”

I would actually love for one of the Democratic candidates to say to all remaining federal employees “Stand up to this administration, and you will have a job in the next one, because we need those willing to stand up for the country and constitution over those that seek to undermine truth and freedom.”

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DangerMan  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:51:42am

re: #198 Citizen K
seen on the ‘net w/r/t the below:

“Alternate headline; GOP launch sneak attack during 9-11 commemorations.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:53:31am

re: #247 DangerMan

seen on the ‘net w/r/t the below:

“Alternate headline; GOP launch sneak attack during 9-11 commemorations.”

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Yep. Republicans calling for civility is a goddamn sham.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:54:12am

re: #236 lawhawk

Trump is a reactionary know nothing. He will bomb and attack based on whatever voices flitter in his ear.

The voices from Fox News, Putin, and OANN?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:54:42am

re: #249 Hecuba’s daughter

The voices from Fox News, Putin, and OANN?

And Jared and Ivanka.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 11, 2019 • 9:57:28am

re: #248 HappyWarrior

Yep. Republicans calling for civility is a goddamn sham.

I think their definition of “civility” is not the one used by most humans.

Like a lot of words, it just means that they get what they want and everyone else can shut up.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:04:40am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:07:03am

re: #211 William Lewis

I’d be surprised if that were anything other than a movie prop. Transferable M2HB’s are obscenely expensive ($25k & up) and I just don’t imagine even a fool gun nut leaving one out like that. That mount is one designed for .30 cal too so it wouldn’t hold up to .50 cal recoil (why yes, I was in a gun jeep scout platoon once upon a lifetime ago. We had goddamn worn out M-60’s because the M151 jeep couldn’t handle M-2’s. ).

“Attention, drug-dealers, gangsters, and free-lance crazy people! Free to good home, .50 M-2 machine gun for anyone who can sucker punch this dweeb and run off with his pickup. Probably doesn’t work, but this is Florida so it’s worth the chance.”

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retired cynic  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:09:50am
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William Lewis  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:13:39am

re: #253 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“Attention, drug-dealers, gangsters, and free-lance crazy people! Free to good home, .50 M-2 machine gun for anyone who can sucker punch this dweeb and run off with his pickup. Probably doesn’t work, but this is Florida so it’s worth the chance.”

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:15:33am

A whole raft of options/pdf explainers at link.

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retired cynic  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:17:52am

Kentucky Democrats Should Not Play it Safe Against McConnell Nancy LeTourneau, WaPo

Some criticism of Amy McGrath:

Not long after McGrath announced her candidacy, she said that, if she’d been in the Senate at the time, she probably would have voted to confirm Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court. After a backlash broke out among Democrats, she changed her mind and said that was a mistake. The whole episode made her look weak, which is deadly in a race against McConnell.

During an interview on MSNBC, McGrath identified herself as a “moderate,” which might not be a bad position to take in Kentucky. But take a look at how she defined the race.

“Kentuckians voted for Trump, they wanted to drain the swamp,” McGrath said. “And Trump said he was going to do that. Trump promised to bring back jobs, he promised to lower drug prices for so many Kentuckians. And that is very important. And who stops them along the way, who stops the president from doing these things? Well, Mitch McConnell.”

That sounds like a calculated strategy to pursue in a state that Trump won by almost 30 points in 2016. But to blame Mitch McConnell for Trump’s failures strains the imagination. The two have consistently worked as a team in efforts that have hurt the working people of Kentucky.

LeTourneau is afraid that McGrath will lose the race by imitating Alison Lundgren Grimes.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:18:46am

A reminder to all: Trump’s 40 Wall Street was not the tallest building in New York after the Twin Towers were destroyed — another Trump lie. en.wikipedia.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:19:06am

re: #250 Eclectic Cyborg

And Jared and Ivanka.

I can’t wait to see Trump try to fire his own family…

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:21:02am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:23:29am

re: #208 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Aw, he wants to play Rat Patrol!!!!!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:26:12am

re: #260 Charles Johnson

Social media connects all the people who have no critical thinking skills and feeds them narratives that end-run around nuance and self-reflection. White supremacists and other con men are using it as a Skinner box.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:26:28am

re: #258 Hecuba’s daughter

It wasn’t tallest in NYC after 9/11, let alone tallest in Lower Manhattan.

Tallest in NYC after 9/11: Empire State Building
Tallest in Lower Manhattan: 70 Pine. Trump’s 40 Wall was shorter.

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William Lewis  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:27:28am

re: #231 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Saddest part is that they just don’t have a clue what an insurrection would entail much less require of them. One could pull off a VCesque revolution in America if you had 1) a superpower or surrogate providing arms, ammunition and explosives (and ECM to counter the Reaper Drones) and 2) a constant stream of recruits because casualties will be much higher than those fools understand.

More likely anything here would end up like the post WWII communist uprisings in Greece or Malaysia (Communists in Greece had no outside support, in Malaysia they had inadequate support) where all that happens is the rebels end up dead and the government has an excuse to become even more authoritarian.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:34:10am

The current lead Google story about the 9/11 anniversary is about the son of one of the victims using a speech he made at a memorial service to attack IIhan Omar for her “some people did something” comments.

Oh and it’s from the Washington fucking Examiner.

America, 2019.

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MsJ  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:34:12am
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gocart mozart  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:36:38am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:37:37am

Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths

Six people have died from vaping related illnesses so far. SIX.

And that’s enough for the government to plan a ban on E-cigarettes.

But hundreds of people die from guns EVERY year and…

*crickets*

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:37:40am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:38:21am

re: #267 gocart mozart

What?

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:39:27am

re: #269 Charles Johnson

His rapid mental decline is accelerating.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:40:58am

re: #269 Charles Johnson

This tweet response is the same as my reaction:

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:42:07am

Trumpworld proposing a ban on e-cig flavorings?

What does that actually mean? No one knows. It’s not a ban on e-cigs. It’s a ban on flavor compounds, even though there’s some evidence that it might be a form of vitamin E involved, or cannabis compound? Or something yet to be identified.

Of course this is precisely the kind of tact Trump would take. Make some grand statement, but when you dig in, you find it’s vaporware and no one knows anything about the specifics.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:46:42am

re: #271 Dr Lizardo

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jeffreyw  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:47:54am
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b.d.  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:48:06am

re: #269 Charles Johnson

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Beautiful young man? Shouldn’t it be handsome young man?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:48:36am

re: #274 The Ghost of a Flea

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:48:51am

re: #275 jeffreyw

Good idea, thanks. Dinner tomorrow.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:49:18am

re: #277 Eclectic Cyborg

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MsJ  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:49:49am

re: #274 The Ghost of a Flea

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:53:03am
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Dread Pirate  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:53:24am
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Belafon  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:54:07am

re: #282 Dread Pirate

Just call him Individual-1.

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plansbandc  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:56:58am

re: #268 Eclectic Cyborg

I was thinking similar thoughts while watching some bozo rant and rave a bunch of propaganda about e-cigs on the CBS Morning Show a couple of days ago.

I’m guessing it’s all about big tobacco throwing $$$$ around to protect their profits.

Funny how e-cigs are such a desperate crisis, but guns are not.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 11, 2019 • 10:57:57am

re: #280 MsJ

G6uH1R8Brta8Yl6F762NIRd0ATVgRu0RtZAwG9dBEGI3+JDFEZFC8wAzwumJ2pnOrc6Zt6Em/6nDaZ59nPFSXgbqtZiBVuxGuRU22Y9YfHMUXik/v+p4FvNpfqT/zeteTbB4i2XASWJRNTOwZxfq9lav7AXFcv5NoHG/DFy5Gip98YRp/C10Ubr7NWhDgI4CyvT/61mqM7PvrLWoZ6/WsE0f2NnQIprR70eNzBdtk81xK/f8SVvEDODJi2I87oXkhhsu7VXFUg3IChOaCB3rrC0cacFczc3TqPYZXIm7kkcdyJVrVTLiwJ+YV3f5XXFTvAqLBztCopRCDh/aja2Y5eC6mec3mqo+hYXRsS2f1nyzsWtmcfbfhd6spSL8gLW1zeQkrWh5wvt2VGp/FLBbsMaklymFqI4t7itZrOGwMO08FsPbr4KroNewG1LRcgo2

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:02:12am
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Citizen K  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:10:28am

It’s always a little strange, trying to follow links on twitter and then finding out you’re blocked by someone whose name you were only aware of that day. I’m not sure what I did to get blocked by James Adomian.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:13:02am

re: #268 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths

Six people have died from vaping related illnesses so far. SIX.

And that’s enough for the government to plan a ban on E-cigarettes.

But hundreds of people die from guns EVERY year and…

*crickets*

Thousands die every year because of guns — accidents, suicides, homicides…

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:13:42am

re: #284 plansbandc

I was thinking similar thoughts while watching some bozo rant and rave a bunch of propaganda about e-cigs on the CBS Morning Show a couple of days ago.

I’m guessing it’s all about big tobacco throwing $$$$ around to protect their profits.

Funny how e-cigs are such a desperate crisis, but guns are not.

Philip Morris is really pushing their Iqos e-cigarette here in the Czech Republic - I’ve seen a few stories about the purported dangers of classic e-liquids/e-cigarettes…..yet strangely (ahem!) I see nothing about the purported dangers of Iqos or Glo e-cigarettes.

Funny that.

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retired cynic  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:19:58am

Greg Sargent, WaPo: Trump’s war on truth just got a lot more cult-like

Some really strange things as you get down into the article.

The first: Republicans are now accusing the Republican National Committee of concealing internal data about Trump’s unpopularity from down-ballot Republican candidates.

and

… the second new example of this war on information: Trump is now using data provided to him by the Mexican government to paint a misleading picture of what’s happening at the border — and is even using it to displace information provided by his own government.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:20:08am

The attempt to present post-9/11 as a period of unity is itself telling, since reactionaries and revanchists immediately leveraged the feeling of common grief to coerce people into compliance.

I keep saying it, but like the invocation of “civility” the invocation of 9/11/01 is a bad faith exercise for many of these people.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:20:49am

re: #290 retired cynic

… the second new example of this war on information: Trump is now using data provided to him by the Mexican government to paint a misleading picture of what’s happening at the border — and is even using it to displace information provided by his own government.

Talk about deep state…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:21:45am

re: #291 The Ghost of a Flea

I would argue there was an increased sense of unity on 9/12 and 9/13…but it certainly didn’t last long.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:22:28am

Assholes all the way down.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:23:03am

re: #293 Eclectic Cyborg

I would argue there was an increased sense of unity on 9/12 and 9/13…but it certainly didn’t last long.

We were just holding onto each other for mutual support over the shock of it all

then the Ugly Rage came roaring to the surface and has remained

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Citizen K  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:25:58am

re: #294 Dread Pirate

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Assholes all the way down.

The criminalization of asylum.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:28:03am

re: #293 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s not really a one or the other thing.

It’s more like…emotional abuse in a domestic settings, where the abuser takes an event that has shared emotional resonance or trauma and turns it into a means to get compliance. It works precisely because the social emotion is genuine for most.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:29:14am

May 23, 2016 but she’s still around and in fact she and her ilk are in charge.

Billy Graham’s daughter: ‘9/11 was God’s punishment for trans people, evolution, and secularism’

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:31:56am

re: #294 Dread Pirate

“WHY ARE WE SEPARATING CHILDREN FROM THE BAHAMAS FROM THEIR PARENTS?!”

Because Stephen Miller, that’s why.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:34:41am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:40:17am

heh

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mmmirele  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:40:48am

re: #298 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

May 23, 2016 but she’s still around and in fact she and her ilk are in charge.

Billy Graham’s daughter: ‘9/11 was God’s punishment for trans people, evolution, and secularism’

I hate this bulkshit. If God was really judging us, don’t you think he would have stepped in with some smiting when our forefathers committed genocide against Native Americans and brought slaves from Africa? Nothing of the sort happened. You can say this is because God doesn’t exist or because God doesn’t do that kind of interfering, but holy crap! Don’t say this is God’s judgment when terrible, terrible things happened in thr past and nothing happened. One might come away with the idea that your god doesn’t care about genocide and slavery.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:41:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:43:43am
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Amory Blaine  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:44:01am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:45:52am

re: #302 mmmirele

I hate this bulkshit. If God was really judging us, don’t you think he would have stepped in with some smiting when our forefathers committed genocide against Native Americans and brought slaves from Africa?

They do not really believe any of this shit, they are just spouting it because they know that their target audience will lap it up and keep the donations coming to help them “combat sin” and keep our country safe from God’s ongoing wrath.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:47:16am

Another place I visited for several days..

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MsJ  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:47:44am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:48:26am

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

On this day in 1297, a Scottish army led by William Wallace defeats the English at the Battle of Stirling Bridge.

It was nothing at all like what they showed in Braveheart with the English cavalry attacking in line and getting impaled on spears.

They came over the bridge four abreast, and tried to reform on boggy ground, The Scots took advantage of that and set on them with spears.

But I guess that cinematographic image would have evoked a degree of sympathy for the poor helpless horses getting set upon and so they reworked it to show the arrogant English nobility getting hoist by the petard of their own arrogance.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:53:45am

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

We’re you grooving with several small animals?

Several Species Of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together In A Cave And Grooving With A Pict

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:02:21pm

re: #310 Amory Blaine

We’re you grooving with several small animals?

[Embedded content]

from a golf course on Black Isle:

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:13:08pm

re: #167 makeitstop

This GIF needs a theme song.

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The Monkeys TV show theme.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:18:34pm

re: #287 Citizen K

It’s always a little strange, trying to follow links on twitter and then finding out you’re blocked by someone whose name you were only aware of that day. I’m not sure what I did to get blocked by James Adomian.

[Embedded content]

It’s called a block list. Lay odds your name was on one and Adomian used it to preemptively block you. I suspect.

A Lizard earlier today posted his/hers block list in response to a post by Teleski getting bombarded by followers of an individual he was critical of. Block lists are both a blessing (filter out the asshole preemptively) or a curse (you blocked someone whose tweets you want to see) without knowing it.

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gocart mozart  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:50:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:54:19pm

re: #314 gocart mozart

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Washington Monument is a phallic symbol that they know they can never measure up to…

I’ll go sit in the corner now…

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:51:00pm

re: #239 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Christina-Taylor Green was born on September 11, 2001, and shot and killed at the Tucson shooting at the Gabby Giffords event on January 8, 2011.

Christina should be turning 18 today.

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Such a terrible waste of a promising life. It was my middle sons 10th birthday the day of the attack, he turns 28 today.


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