The House Rules Committee debates and votes on two articles of impeachment against President Trump: abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. https://cs.pn/35nrhmo
Sure, Jan.
Per White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham, how President Trump is spending the day as the impeachment hearings continue:
“The President will be working all day. He will be briefed by staff throughout that day, and could catch some of the proceedings between meetings.”— Jonathan Lemire (@JonLemire) December 18, 2019
re: #1 makeitstop
Sure, Jan.
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“Working” aka watching FNC jack him off and tell him that no one has been victimized more than he has.
I hope Keith Richards says something about what a great birthday present Trump’s impeachment is.
re: #1 makeitstop
Sure, Jan.
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Translation: Watching every second of Congress on Fox News today and ready to pounce on any GOP’er who might not praise him enough.
Wasn’t Trump being impeached suppose to tank the stock market?
re: #4 b.d. (Lock Him Up!)
Translation: Watching every second of Congress on Fox News today and ready to pounce on any GOP’er who might not praise him enough.
Yep definitely taking notes on who to cry about at the rally.
re: #1 makeitstop
Sure, Jan.
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“The President will be working all day…”
if it were true, it would be a first
I just realized something: Tulsi Gabbard’s hairstyle is Keith Richards, 1972 tour.
Abrams Training Division doing #tanktwitter things. pic.twitter.com/0MhLkwRuak
— Red Knight 6, Commander, 1-81 AR (@RedKnightHQ66) December 18, 2019
— Giant Military Cats (@giantcat9) December 18, 2019
re: #7 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)
…
if it were true, it would be a first
The one thing I am thankful for is how much of a lazy slob the POTUS is. Imagine the destruction he could do if he had any interest in doing the job?
What’s the estimated time for the impeachment votes today?
re: #1 makeitstop
Sure, Jan.
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WaPo headline right now:
White house says Trump ‘working all day’ as he tweets again about impeachment proceedings.
Pasty white guy McClintock(!) haz opinions.
Cutting a lot of imaginary food with his right hand. Important to practice up for holiday feasts.
Haha they’re such rancid feckless shitweasels in everything they do. pic.twitter.com/MbZI7pu6li
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
The @GOP is standing up today defending a bankrupt corrupt serial rapist porn-star cheating racist reality show Russian pawn who has destroyed our reputation worldwide.
You pathetic sycophants. Look what you’ve become.
We will not forget.— Elizabeth C. McLaughlin (@ECMcLaughlin) December 18, 2019
They requested: Volker, Morrison, Hale and got them.
NO ONE else on their list has any knowledge of why Trump held up aid to Ukraine. The others are NOT FACT witnesses.
Read here:https://t.co/4SAz0tbfY5— Heidi Przybyla (@HeidiNBC) December 18, 2019
Final fact:
GOP made no deposition request (secret meetings) for Hunter. So … they wanted Hunter but only before a camera.
AS IT HEADS TO THE SENATE, WHERE R’S CONTROL THE ENTIRE PROCESS & CAN RIGHT THIS WRONG, IT APPEARS …THEY DO NOT WANT ANY WITNESSES.— Heidi Przybyla (@HeidiNBC) December 18, 2019
re: #16 Charles Johnson
Man, he’s raging in all CAPS now. Can he make it through today without bursting a blood vessel?
On the 12th day of impeachment my tru love sent 2 me
12 angry Senators
11 blocked subpoenas
10 aides enabling
9 tweeters tweeting
8 liars lying
7 bad excuses
6 shady meetings
5 Ukrainians
4 whistleblowers
3 perfect phone calls
2 counts of impeachment
and a letter to Nancy Pelosi— Rev Slade 🆘 (@Rev_Slade) December 18, 2019
Taking the lead for House Republicans, Rep. Doug Collins opens his prepared remarks on this solemn occasion in history by repeating this lie.👇
Politifact: “Pelosi never said those words. … We rate it False.”https://t.co/AWS0fQVaIj— Ryan Goodman (@rgoodlaw) December 18, 2019
Things Trump is not being impeached for:
- obstructing Justice ten times (per the Mueller Report)
- sexually assaulting two dozen women
- locking kids in cages
- conspiring to violate campaign finance laws
- violating the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution— Michael Cohen (@speechboy71) December 18, 2019
This is ridiculous. You report lies by reporting lies, and if that puts you on the side of THE TRUTH, what the hell is wrong with that?
These are supposed to be smart people, but they’re too smart by half. https://t.co/35cGahPHXF— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
This cowardly attitude of way too many in the media is a huge part of what got us into this mess.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
Checking up on agent Lindsay Graham?
OFFICIALS: RUSSIAN SPY SHIP OFF SC COAST OPERATING IN ‘UNSAFE MANNER’
SOUTH CAROLINA (CNN) — A Russian spy-ship has returned to international waters off the southeastern coast of the United States and is operating in what two US officials told CNN is an “unsafe manner.”
The Viktor Leonov, a Russian surveillance ship, has been sailing off the coast of South Carolina and Florida in the last few days, officials tell CNN, adding that the ship’s actions were determined to be unsafe because it is not using running lights in low visibility weather and it is not responding to commercial vessels’ attempts to communicate to avoid potential accidents.
Kathleen Parker has all the garbage takes of Peggy Noonan but without the vodka, so I’m not sure what her excuse is. https://t.co/xHacfsdejQ
— Deirdre🇺🇸🏴 (@celtichumanscum) December 18, 2019
re: #19 Eclectic Cyborg
Man, he’s raging in all CAPS now. Can he make it through today without bursting a blood vessel?
One can hope.
Before Trump was inaugurated, they knew he was a criminal!
Hi Lizards, can you explain in a few words what the strategy after the impeachment is? It dies in the Senate, as far as I gather. Is it hoped that this will help during the elections?
re: #30 Nyet
Hi Lizards, can you explain in a few words what the strategy after the impeachment is? It dies in the Senate, as far as I gather. Is it hoped that this will help during the elections?
I assume that the message will be “The Senate had a job to do but punted. Now get out and vote and finish what these cowards refused to!”
re: #30 Nyet
Hi Lizards, can you explain in a few words what the strategy after the impeachment is? It dies in the Senate, as far as I gather. Is it hoped that this will help during the elections?
Nobody knows. It is a safe bet that he will triple down on illegal behavior and try to retaliate however.
Umm…what?
ODD MOMENT: Nadler points out that if Trump is removed, Pence becomes president, not Hillary Clinton
To which a cluster of Republicans on the floor … start cheering— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) December 18, 2019
re: #30 Nyet
Hi Lizards, can you explain in a few words what the strategy after the impeachment is? It dies in the Senate, as far as I gather. Is it hoped that this will help during the elections?
I’m hoping they don’t send it to the Senate and announce they’re continuing investigation.
(They’ve already announced that investigations will continue, I just don’t want to give any of them the satisfaction of acquitting Trump.)
I recall the shock that the Russians had when Jerry Ford took over after Nixon and not the Democrats. They assumed that a putsch like that had to involve a change of power…
re: #35 makeitstop
Umm…what?
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It took a Dem to explain this to them
They all thought..well you know
MORE from Stewart: If this impeachment succeeds, “The next president, I promise you, is going to be impeached … Every president in our future will be impeached.”
— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) December 18, 2019
What if the Democratic VP is black?
The GOP is now moving on from whining and obstructing, to threatening. https://t.co/6iR0JCxmWV
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
Rod Dreher takes today to tell Trump to go after trans people in order to change the narrative because trans people ARE JUST LIKE JEREMY CORBYN AND WE ARE COMING TO CUT YOUR KID’S DICK OFF AND MAKE HIM COMPETE AS A GIRL IN WOMEN’S SPORTS.
Uh, he actually says that.
Someday we may just find out how bad Rod’s personal pathology is.
re: #30 Nyet
Hi Lizards, can you explain in a few words what the strategy after the impeachment is? It dies in the Senate, as far as I gather. Is it hoped that this will help during the elections?
The strategy is to do the right thing in the House.
— mike luckovich (@mluckovichajc) December 18, 2019
re: #42 jaunte
“The next president, I promise you, is going to be impeached … Every president in our future will be impeached.”
If a President finds their personal lawyer, campaign chairperson and other personal advisers in jail, has paid a $2 million dollar fine for defrauding a veterans’ charity, has sons and daughters conducting foreign policy while also running the family businesses, then I would have no problem with seeing that President impeached…
re: #38 makeitstop
I’m hoping they don’t send it to the Senate and announce they’re continuing investigation.
(They’ve already announced that investigations will continue, I just don’t want to give any of them the satisfaction of acquitting Trump.)
tribe posted this - it’s interesting. if true, the house could have the vote and still hold the articles up
Senate rules requiring the House to “immediately” present its articles of impeachment to the Senate clearly violate the constitutional clause in Article I giving each house the sole power to make its own rules. It’s up to the House when and how to prosecute its case in the Senate
— Laurence Tribe (@tribelaw) December 18, 2019
re: #42 jaunte
What if the Democratic VP is black?
Yeah well fuck you Stewart. You all impeached a President over perjury about a sexual affair. We’re impeaching one over using a vulnerable foreign policy to investigate his rival. If you can’t see the difference between the two, maybe you should go fuck yourself with a moldy MAGA hat.
Republicans letting noted white supremacist and shunned lawmaker Steve King speak on behalf of Donald Trump and against impeachment is Peak 2019 GOP
— Michael Cohen (@speechboy71) December 18, 2019
re: #30 Nyet
Hi Lizards, can you explain in a few words what the strategy after the impeachment is? It dies in the Senate, as far as I gather. Is it hoped that this will help during the elections?
Same thing as the back of your shampoo bottle: wash, rinse, repeat.
re: #50 jaunte
Man, they are REALLY lacking depth on their bench.
re: #44 Scottish Dragon
Rod Dreher takes today to tell Trump to go after trans people in order to change the narrative because trans people ARE JUST LIKE JEREMY CORBYN AND WE ARE COMING TO CUT YOUR KID’S DICK OFF AND MAKE HIM COMPETE AS A GIRL IN WOMEN’S SPORTS.
Uh, he actually says that.
Someday we may just find out how bad Rod’s personal pathology is.
I’m going to say it here but a lot of right wing Christians like Rod are not right in the head. I mean almost I can understand why transgender people confuse them but lots of things are confusing if you don’t understand them, the sick shit they use to attack transgender people’s humanity is beyond the pale.
Continued GOP lack of defense for the president’s* actions through 2020.
Read Article I. It incorporates facts that establish bribery, conspiracy and other crimes. Still not hearing a defense to any of it. Just kvetching. https://t.co/1zFKaxAARz
— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) December 18, 2019
Reminder. These motherfuckers talked about impeaching HRC before the November election even happened. That was Republicans that did that about Clinton not Democrats and Trump. Trump had been in office for a year and a half before the impeachment inquiry began. Do NOT let Republicans distort who actually wanted to make impeachment into a political weapon.
re: #58 HappyWarrior
They also talked about Impeaching Obama after about the first week or so.
It would be nice if Republicans could actually try a defense of Trump other than just whining that we were upset about his “historic win” in 2016 and that this is unconstitutional. These sobs got into office mostly by crying about Bill Clinton and Barack Obama using the government to expand health care coverage. Some of them were even foot soldiers with Newt in the mid 90’s.
re: #31 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I assume that the message will be “The Senate had a job to do but punted. Now get out and vote and finish what these cowards refused to!”
The basic goal is to force the GOP Reps and Senators to choose between the primary and the general election.
Support Trump and get past the GOP base voters in the primary. Don’t support Trump and face real problems with challengers and funding in the primary.
But, then face the general voting population in the general. The majority of whom, at least right now, detest Trump.
If the Dem’s pick off enough Republican Senators, they may win control of the Senate. And, maybe pick off some of the more despicable Senators in the process.
Additionally, there is hope that bringing out the facts forcibly enough might get that information to more of the voters and sway some part of them.
Well, took some time the other day to transfer my iTunes library off my old laptop to the newer one. Not fond of iTunes, but I also have all my purchased CDs from years passed in that library. And the newer laptop has enough memory that I can browse and play music at the same time.* So now it’s a few new playlists constructed and I’m listening to a mix of Dire Straits and Supertramp while reading comments, drinking coffee, and eating apple pie.
* - Browser and iTunes version bloat eventually it impossible to have both running at the same time on the old laptop.
re: #59 Eclectic Cyborg
They also talked about Impeaching Obama after about the first week or so.
McCarthy, Ryan, and Cantor literally met the day Obama became President and discussed how to make his presidency ineffective as possible. McConnell bragged and still does brag about how he hurt Obama’s judicial appointments. These assholes have no scruples at all.
and to take two who just spoke in sequence:
Madeleine Dean—>Debbie Lesko— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) December 18, 2019
re: #59 Eclectic Cyborg
Not a single of them these feckless, craven, and corrupt GOPers can identify an exonerating piece of information for Trump, so they spew lies, deflections, and threaten Democrats with impeachment.
Kinda like this:https://t.co/ZmaiXGbYuh— lawhawk (@lawhawk) December 18, 2019
re: #62 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
Well, took some time the other day to transfer my iTunes library off my old laptop to the newer one. Not fond of iTunes, but I also have all my purchased CDs from years passed in that library. And the newer laptop has enough memory that I can browse and play music at the same time.* So now it’s a few new playlists constructed and I’m listening to a mix of Dire Straits and Supertramp while reading comments, drinking coffee, and eating apple pie.
* - Browser and iTunes version bloat eventually it impossible to have both running at the same time on the old laptop.
Been using Spotify more here but I still have my iPod classic.
Turley also said that what Trump did was wrong, and his only real objection was that impeachment was moving “too fast” because the courts had not ruled on every subpoena yet.
re: #60 HappyWarrior
It would be nice if Republicans could actually try a defense of Trump other than just whining that we were upset about his “historic win” in 2016 and that this is unconstitutional. These sobs got into office mostly by crying about Bill Clinton and Barack Obama using the government to expand health care coverage. Some of them were even foot soldiers with Newt in the mid 90’s.
The only thing “historic” about Trump’s win is that foreign interference apparently made a noticeable difference in the result.
re: #68 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
The only thing “historic” about Trump’s win is that foreign interference apparently made a noticeable difference in the result.
Exactly.
re: #63 HappyWarrior
McCarthy, Ryan, and Cantor literally met the day Obama became President and discussed how to make his presidency ineffective as possible. McConnell bragged and still does brag about how he hurt Obama’s judicial appointments. These assholes have no scruples at all.
Cantor lol. Now there’s a name I’d forgotten.
chabot lying that trump is asserting EP by blocking all subpoenas
Sort argument from Repubs today: “IF YOU DON’T VOTE AGAINST IMPEACHMENT, WE’RE GONNA IMPEACH THE NEXT DEM…WHICH WE’VE BEEN THREATENING EVER SINCE NIXON!!!”
— Deirdre🇺🇸🏴 (@celtichumanscum) December 18, 2019
re: #67 Targetpractice
Turley also said that what Trump did was wrong, and his only real objection was that impeachment was moving “too fast” because the courts had not ruled on every subpoena yet.
He also said that the witnesses should be produced. Well Mitch isn’t letting those witnesses be produced. What is hurting the ability to convict or not is Mitch and the Trump administration not the House Democrats.
re: #66 HappyWarrior
Been using Spotify more here but I still have my iPod classic.
My niece is a Spotify fan. Haven’t experimented with it at all yet.
re: #70 Eclectic Cyborg
Cantor lol. Now there’s a name I’d forgotten.
His seat I say with pride even though I didn’t work on that campaign is now held by a Democrat. I don’t always agree with Abigail but suburban Richmond going to a Dem in Congress is huge.
re: #75 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
My niece is a Spotify fan. Haven’t experimented with it at all yet.
I recommend it. Got it for both parents. They love it.
“Guilty of doing the things he said he would do!” Well, that’s certainly an interesting excuse for trying to sic a foreign gov’t upon a political rival.
re: #62 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
Well, took some time the other day to transfer my iTunes library off my old laptop to the newer one. Not fond of iTunes, but I also have all my purchased CDs from years passed in that library. And the newer laptop has enough memory that I can browse and play music at the same time.* So now it’s a few new playlists constructed and I’m listening to a mix of Dire Straits and Supertramp while reading comments, drinking coffee, and eating apple pie.
* - Browser and iTunes version bloat eventually it impossible to have both running at the same time on the old laptop.
re: #72 Targetpractice
Sort argument from Repubs today: “IF YOU DON’T VOTE AGAINST IMPEACHMENT, WE’RE GONNA IMPEACH THE NEXT DEM…WHICH WE’VE BEEN THREATENING EVER SINCE NIXON!!!”
It’s their same tantrum they have whenever a right wing asshole judge like Kavanaugh gets scrutinized for what they are. They’re not over Bork or Nixon. GOP policy on a national level since Nixon resigned for the most part has been petty revenge, rewards to their donors, and reactionary bullshit. Maybe at some point they could have been saved by a moderating influence but the GOP is fucked as a mainstream party by their own creating.
re: #78 Targetpractice
“Guilty of doing the things he said he would do!” Well, that’s certainly an interesting excuse for trying to sic a foreign gov’t upon a political rival.
I heard that Mexico would pay for a wall but not that Ukraine would investigate his opponents while knowing if they didn’t give him what he wanted, they would have to fear a Russian invasion. God only knows how the average Ukrainian feels about our country because of Trump.
re: #72 Targetpractice
Sort argument from Repubs today: “IF YOU DON’T VOTE AGAINST IMPEACHMENT, WE’RE GONNA IMPEACH THE NEXT DEM…WHICH WE’VE BEEN THREATENING EVER SINCE NIXON!!!”
Standard rhetoric from reactionaries and terrorists.
Pre-US Civil War was constant secession threats from the fire eaters over this or that particular issue.
During the height of the Israeli-PLO and Israeli-Hezbollah fighting were constant threats from the PLO or Hezbollah after one of their bases were attacked.
Always wondered why any of it was taken seriously when the basic premise being put forward was to destroy something. If that something does something you don’t like threatening to attack it *more* is a pretty empty thing to say since that was already your clearly stated intention.
Doug Collins is making a comical effort to sound happy to be there.
Trump’s WH feed is a nonstop barrage of baffling bulkshit. All lies, deflections, and projecting like IMAX.
Not a single one can make a substantive defense of Trump on the facts. Not one.
It’s all baseless claims that no quid pro quo, or other nonsense.
They live in an alt reality where facts don’t matter.
Repeating the same lie doesn’t make it true.
Trump engaged in felony conduct. He admitted it on video. Mulvaney corroborated. Sondland corroborated. Taylor too.
Trump refuses to let his cronies testify under oath because they can’t exonerate him.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) December 18, 2019
And yeah I gladly stand with Ukraine over Russia for the same reasons why Americans stood with Hungary in 1956 and Czechoslovaks in 1968 and Afghanis in the 80’s.
re: #85 lawhawk
Trump’s WH feed is a nonstop barrage of baffling bulkshit. All lies, deflections, and projecting like IMAX.
Not a single one can make a substantive defense of Trump on the facts. Not one.
It’s all baseless claims that no quid pro quo, or other nonsense.
They live in an alt reality where facts don’t matter.
The cronies would probably further incriminate him. They would either perjure themselves or save themselves because none of them really like him.
I love this talking about that reminds everyone that the 66 million people who voted for Hillary Clinton actually had their votes overturned. https://t.co/JDn4UfS4rF
— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) December 18, 2019
re: #81 HappyWarrior
It’s their same tantrum they have whenever a right wing asshole judge like Kavanaugh gets scrutinized for what they are. They’re not over Bork or Nixon. GOP policy on a national level since Nixon resigned for the most part has been petty revenge, rewards to their donors, and reactionary bullshit. Maybe at some point they could have been saved by a moderating influence but the GOP is fucked as a mainstream party by their own creating.
fwiw bork mostly borked himself
- fired archibald cox
- the body of his own opinions
OFFS, Trump now apparently is as put upon as Jesus.
Yegods.
re: #61 ckkatz
Additionally, there is hope that bringing out the facts forcibly enough might get that information to more of the voters and sway some part of them.
The standards and level of discourse at these hearings and trial are somewhat more serious than the clusterfuck of mainstream media and the fever swamps of social media.
There are still clowns and grandstanders but they do not come across as well when confronted with expert testimony and eyewitnesses.
loudermilk just went there
Jesus got more due process than trump
Well, we could put Trump in a tomb for three days and see what happens.
re: #75 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
My niece is a Spotify fan. Haven’t experimented with it at all yet.
I was impressed with my ex GF’s weekly playlist and how it quickly adapted itself to our taste based on what we had selected over time.
re: #93 jaunte
Trump is no Jesus.
One just needs to be a bit more specific:
My good friend and creative co-conspirator @benhowe has a new book out that demonstrates how evangelicals sold their principles for Cheeto Jesus. It’s already enraging Trump and his minions.
You should get it. https://t.co/0udHwnbit2— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) May 28, 2019
Omg. This is delicious. https://t.co/Gh687AJ9pw
— Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) December 18, 2019
re: #44 Scottish Dragon
Rod Dreher takes today to tell Trump to go after trans people in order to change the narrative because trans people ARE JUST LIKE JEREMY CORBYN AND WE ARE COMING TO CUT YOUR KID’S DICK OFF AND MAKE HIM COMPETE AS A GIRL IN WOMEN’S SPORTS.
Uh, he actually says that.
Someday we may just find out how bad Rod’s personal pathology is.
I read that whole piece, - even the irrelevant side-trip to Britain and BS about Jeremy Corbyn - and man, do trans issues send Dreher over the edge (it used to be gay issues, but he seems to have backed off slightly on the full-metal homophobia)! He seriously thinks that trans rights are going to be the killer issue in next year’s campaign(s)? That Democrats even tangentially making it a factor are going to alienate vast masses of voters, and send them rushing to the ballot boxes in revulsion to massively vote in Republicans? Out of fears over “womens’ athletics”?? SRSLY??
re: #98 Interesting Times
One just needs to be a bit more specific:
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I’m glad Rick sees that but Evangelicals were doing that when he was an active Republican strategist too.
re: #100 Jay C
I read that whole piece, - even the irrelevant side-trip to Britain and BS about Jeremy Corbyn - and man, do trans issues send Dreher over the edge (it used to be gay issues, but he seems to have backed off slightly on the full-metal homophobia)! He seriously thinks that trans rights are going to be the killer issue in next year’s campaign(s)? That Democrats even tangentially making it a factor are going to alienate vast masses of voters, and send them rushing to the ballot boxes in revulsion to massively vote in Republicans? Out of fears over “womens’ athletics”?? SRSLY??
They’ll lose the trans issue like they have the gay issue but they’ll keep using it to stir up the base.
re: #93 jaunte
Trump is no Jesus.
Except on the golf course where his scorecard performs miracles.
(And on the golf course Jesus thinks he is Arnold Palmer.)
re: #99 lawhawk
#MerryImpeachmas @kathygriffin pic.twitter.com/SkxY8KSucs
— AddictedLivesMatter (@LivesAddicted) December 18, 2019
interesting about the two articles
art 1 - re ukraine is more or less simple for everyone to understand
art 2 - a bit more boring and obscure is about defending the separation and balance of powers
art 1 is easier to sell and has more ‘political’ ramifications
art 2 s/b way more serious and important to the congress people themselves.
so i wonder if the R’s are smart enough and figure:
let the dems own the impeachment. we’ll acquit and still the entire house will have made the point that the president overstepped with the total blockade of oversight
probably not, but maybe
I just want Never Trump conservatives to acknowledge when this is done that their ideology has been harmful and that Trump didn’t just come out of nowhere. Reagan particularly had the ugliness and corruption Trump does and it’s time we acknowledge that if we want to prevent a demagogue like Trump.
re: #90 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)
fwiw bork mostly borked himself
- fired archibald cox
- the body of his own opinions
And not to mention his repeated commentary about how (if confirmed) he was going to vote on any number of issues (on “principle”, of course) not even pretending that he would judge cases impartially.
Yet Poor Old Bob The Martyr is still a classic character in the RW mythology….
I do not like Donald Trump. He’s an absolutely repellent human being in every respect, and I’m quite sure a lot of us feel that way.
But he should be impeached because he’s an unhinged criminal who endangers national security. And it’s normal to not like criminals.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
re: #91 Targetpractice
OFFS, Trump now apparently is as put upon as Jesus.
Yegods.
So we get to nail him to a piece of wood?
re: #25 Charles Johnson
On journalism: “If someone says it’s raining, and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. Your job is to look out the fucking window and find out which is true.” -Sally Claire
— Michael Okuda (@MikeOkuda) July 19, 2018
re: #30 Nyet
Hi Lizards, can you explain in a few words what the strategy after the impeachment is? It dies in the Senate, as far as I gather. Is it hoped that this will help during the elections?
Ha! A Russian banshee has come to keen from our roofbeam.
re: #100 Jay C
I read that whole piece, - even the irrelevant side-trip to Britain and BS about Jeremy Corbyn - and man, do trans issues send Dreher over the edge (it used to be gay issues, but he seems to have backed off slightly on the full-metal homophobia)! He seriously thinks that trans rights are going to be the killer issue in next year’s campaign(s)? That Democrats even tangentially making it a factor are going to alienate vast masses of voters, and send them rushing to the ballot boxes in revulsion to massively vote in Republicans? Out of fears over “womens’ athletics”?? SRSLY??
You can tell he is hiding something with the way he looks for this stuff and obsesses over it. I’m a trans woman and I go for months at a time without looking for or reading stuff about trans issues.
re: #104 Dave In Austin
Drink more Kool-aid.
The claim that *this* impeachment lowers the bar either ignores 1998-1999, or constitutes an argument that the Constitution mandates impeachment for Democratic presidents but not Republican ones.
— Jonathan Bernstein (@jbview) December 18, 2019
The classic Republican argument. When the only tool you have is a Bible, you pound that sucker. https://t.co/CIEy44pmoR
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
Every BananaRepublican speaker sounds like a deranged AM radio whack job a’ la Levin, Savage, Gallagher, etc. I’ll never forget these cretins.
Imagine your grandkids & great-grandkids being able to read the Congressional record where you compared a thrice married, serial cheater w porn stars, fraudulent charity running (fined $2 million), fake school running ($25 mil settlement) guy who grabs women by the pussy w Jesus. https://t.co/m2FfbKcvZO
— KD (@Fly_Sistah) December 18, 2019
re: #112 Scottish Dragon
You can tell he is hiding something with the way he looks for this stuff and obsesses over it. I’m a trans woman and I go for months at a time without looking for or reading stuff about trans issues.
Mencken famously said that puritainism is “The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.” I’ve taken to calling fundamentalism the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be enjoying their life by not living by your morals (and you might too!).
Dreher is the epitome of both of those definitions.
re: #117 BigPapa
Every BananaRepublican speaker sounds like a deranged AM radio whack job a’ la Levin, Savage, Gallagher, etc. I’ll never forget these cretins.
They are solidly proving to anyone who is paying attention that the rot is not just Trump but goes to the core of the GOP. Lying and coverup is standard behavior - which is pretty much blatant contempt of their oaths and constituents.
Trump impeachment: Undisputed evidence that he abused his powerhttps://t.co/x8mvmz9tnE
— Judge Napolitano (@Judgenap) December 18, 2019
re: #95 jaunte
Well, we could put Trump in a tomb for three days and see what happens.
After a crucifixion.
re: #115 Scottish Dragon
republican president gerald ford, when still a congressman:
“high crimes and misdemeanors” should be defined as “whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers them to be at a moment in history.”
The claim that *this* impeachment lowers the bar either ignores 1998-1999, or constitutes an argument that the Constitution mandates impeachment for Democratic presidents but not Republican ones.
— Jonathan Bernstein (@jbview) December 18, 2019
Trump gets to be Jesus on condition we all agree with are living in Month Python’s “Life of Brian” and Trump then has to sing *Always look on the Bright Side of Life* while being crucified.
— Deirdre🇺🇸🏴 (@celtichumanscum) December 18, 2019
re: #92 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The standards and level of discourse at these hearings and trial are somewhat more serious than the clusterfuck of mainstream media and the fever swamps of social media.
There are still clowns and grandstanders but they do not come across as well when confronted with expert testimony and eyewitnesses.
I agree with you.
The members of Congress can bs and grandstand in their house, but the witnesses generally are expected to tell the truth under legal penalty.
This is an institutional right that, hopefully, most members will protect due to self interest. Sell that out, as the GOP House did 2016-18 and they undermine their own power.
The media has different set of masters. And is deliberately unregulated.
“hunter biden doesnt get a pass because his dad was vice president”
well trump doesnt get a pass because he is president
re: #115 Scottish Dragon
I still tend to think that Clinton’s impeachment was warranted - he lied under oath in a civil trial and in doing so undermined the legal system; and in doing so violated his oath to protect and defend the constitution and to see that the law is faithfully executed. It’s probably about as low as the bar should be for impeachment.
Trump’s actions, specifically in the case of Ukraine but also more broadly, are well beyond Clinton’s actions. (For what it’s worth, I think Trump could have (and should have) faced a couple dozen articles of impeachment).
Other presidents that probably should have faced impeachment, off the top of my head: Reagan for Iran-Contra; GWB for lying about Iraq; Ford for his abuse of the pardon power re: Nixon; LBJ re the Gulf of Tonkin; Truman for the steel mill nationalization attempt underlying the Youngstown Steel case. That’s just in “modern” times. Further back, Jackson should have been impeached for sure.
re: #120 lawhawk
Next up:
Trump got less due process than Jesus.
Jesus didn’t blow off a bunch of subpoenas.
As pointed out by others, the comments about Pilate are suggestive of anti Semitic attacks against both Nadler and Schiff.
Not to mention the only one acting like they’re leading the Roman Empire is Trump. https://t.co/griEBpemqj
— Charles #GetCovered-ba (@charles_gaba) December 18, 2019
re: #127 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)
“hunter biden doesnt get a pass because his dad was vice president”
well trump doesnt get a pass because he is president
Republicans would actually agree with that. In their view, Trump doesn’t get a pass for everything because he is president. Trump gets a pass for everything because magic R.
gooden (r-tx) apparently founding fathers were afraid of a political party using impeachment
imagine before there even were parties
re: #127 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)
“hunter biden doesnt get a pass because his dad was vice president”
well trump doesnt get a pass because he is president
I’m still waiting for an explanation of what, exactly, Hunter Biden did that was illegal…
Um, Jesus only ended up being Crucified because Pilate was a chickenshit who wanted to placate the people so as not to lose his grip on power. He HIMSELF proclaimed he could not find any fault in Jesus, even going so far as to PHYSICALLY WASH HIS HANDS of responsibility for the act, as in: “I’m doing this because YOU people want me to, not because I think it should be done.”
Point is, the same type of people who wanted to crucify Christ are the ones wearing the red hats today.
re: #133 KGxvi
He was Joe’s kid. And was doing business in Ukraine.
Trump decided that this would be pretext for alleging the need for an investigation to harm Biden and to force Ukraine to investigate by withholding critical military aid that the US Congress appropriated.
Oh wait, you asked for a Biden crime, not Trump’s mindset and criminal acts.
/nevermind
re: #133 KGxvi
I’m still waiting for an explanation of what, exactly, Hunter Biden did that was illegal…
As if that will ever happen. Republicans are the party of Trump, and they all share his pathologies, mostly in laser degrees.
re: #128 KGxvi
Lying about sex in a civil suit after a special prosecutor goes on a no holds barred fishing expedition is one thing, and people understood that. I thought he should have resigned…but the impeachment really did get into inquisition territory. The efforts by Kavanaugh to get every single salacious detail into public record really exposes what it was about. They didn’t give a damn about the legal issue. It was all about prurient voyeurism.
re: #128 KGxvi
I still tend to think that Clinton’s impeachment was warranted - he lied under oath in a civil trial and in doing so undermined the legal system; and in doing so violated his oath to protect and defend the constitution and to see that the law is faithfully executed. It’s probably about as low as the bar should be for impeachment.
Trump’s actions, specifically in the case of Ukraine but also more broadly, are well beyond Clinton’s actions. (For what it’s worth, I think Trump could have (and should have) faced a couple dozen articles of impeachment).
Other presidents that probably should have faced impeachment, off the top of my head: Reagan for Iran-Contra; GWB for lying about Iraq; Ford for his abuse of the pardon power re: Nixon; LBJ re the Gulf of Tonkin; Truman for the steel mill nationalization attempt underlying the Youngstown Steel case. That’s just in “modern” times. Further back, Jackson should have been impeached for sure.
fwiw, in your list, clinton is the only one where the proximate act was not part of executing official presidential duties. - ie it was his personal behavior in his personal life
re: #134 Eclectic Cyborg
Um, Jesus only ended up being Crucified because Pilate was a chickenshit who wanted to placate the people so as not to lose his grip on power. He HIMSELF proclaimed he could not find any fault in Jesus, even going so far as to PHYSICALLY WASH HIS HANDS of the act. The point being: “I’m doing this because YOU people want me to, not because I think it should be done.”
Point is, the same type of people who wanted to crucify Christ are the ones wearing the red hats today.
Better rush some and sanitizer up to the GOP caucuses.
re: #133 KGxvi
I’m still waiting for an explanation of what, exactly, Hunter Biden did that was illegal…
That is always tacitly understood in GOP cant, just like it is always understood the Hillary Clinton somehow killed people at Benghazi.
It doesn’t matter that these things are never explained or documented or have no relation to observable reality. They are simply understood.
President Trump complains that he doesn’t get due process, even though he refused to participate in the House impeachment inquiry and blocked witnesses and documents.
Still, we are offering him due process.@realDonaldTrump: Allow your aides to testify in a Senate trial. pic.twitter.com/cxzBJUDIbJ— Chuck Schumer (@SenSchumer) December 18, 2019
I’ve been tuning in and out — has a single Republican challenged the facts at hand, or has it all just been yelling about the process and how mean the mean old mean Democrats are being to Jesus H. Trump?
— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) December 18, 2019
re: #138 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)
fwiw, in your list, clinton is the only one where the proximate act was not part of executing official presidential duties. - ie it was his personal behavior in his personal life
If he was impeached for having an affair, I’d agree. But it was lying in a civil trial that was the real offense. That’s the moment it became public.
The entire investigation that got us to that point was a fishing expedition, and went incredibly far off the rails. So, maybe we never should have got there in the first place. But once there, it raises the same “above the law” questions about the president that Trump’s actions do - if the president is free to lie to the court (a co-equal branch) without repercussions, then what is to stop him from lying to everyone?
re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth
I’ve been tuning in and out — has a single Republican challenged the facts at hand, or has it all just been yelling about the process and how mean the mean old mean Democrats are being to Jesus H. Trump?
comparing it to
A Witch Hunt
An Attempt to Overturn the Election
Pontius Pilate
Tulsi Gabbard, who has been skeptical of impeachment, did not show up for the first four votes today - and her office hasn’t told @byrdinator if she will show up for vote on the articles
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) December 18, 2019
re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth
If she doesn’t even show up she needs to drop out of the Presidential race. Period.
re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth
Don’t worry. She’s just rehearsing what she will say on Tucker’s White Power Hour tonight!
re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth
Profile of courage. Skipping an historic vote is neglecting your duty (if she doesn’t vote).
re: #145 KGxvi
If he was impeached for having an affair, I’d agree. But it was lying in a civil trial that was the real offense. That’s the moment it became public.
The entire investigation that got us to that point was a fishing expedition, and went incredibly far off the rails. So, maybe we never should have got there in the first place. But once there, it raises the same “above the law” questions about the president that Trump’s actions do - if the president is free to lie to the court (a co-equal branch) without repercussions, then what is to stop him from lying to everyone?
IMO an ordinary penalty for Bill Clinton’s perjury in that case should have been applied, but it was not impeachable. IIRC, Clinton (rightly) lost his law license for that.
The GOP witch hunt vs. Clinton was absolutely grotesque. Half of it was sheer rage that the era of permanent GOP rule that they expected after Reagan ended in 1992, and the other half, by instinct, was a desire to soil the impeachment process by making it intrinsically partisan, as one way to cope with that embarrassing Nixon history.
Meanwhile, in non-impeachment moves… the Russians are stealing the north pole.
The north magnetic pole has been slowly moving across the Canadian Arctic toward Russia since 1831, but its swift pace toward Siberia in recent years at a rate of around 34 miles per year has forced scientists to update the World Magnetic Model — used by civilian navigation systems, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, and US and British militaries — a year ahead of schedule.
The World Magnetic Model 2020 forecasts that the pole will continue on its path to Russia, but now the speed is slowly decreasing to about 24.8 miles per year. Since its discovery in 1831, the pole has traveled 1,400 miles.
re: #151 EPR-radar
What’s lost in all this is that Reagan should have been impeached as part of Iran Contra. There was more than enough evidence pointing to corrupt and criminal acts from Reagan on down.
re: #152 KGxvi
Meanwhile, in non-impeachment moves… the Russians are stealing the north pole.
So does this mean Santa is going to start giving people vodka for Christmas?
/
Not that I care much about these kinds of milestones, but after all these years, I am only 26 followers away from 5k on twitter.
re: #130 lawhawk
He’s my rep. Sadly. And he really does think he only represents his Republican constituents. He’s awful.
re: #145 KGxvi
If he was impeached for having an affair, I’d agree. But it was lying in a civil trial that was the real offense. That’s the moment it became public.
The entire investigation that got us to that point was a fishing expedition, and went incredibly far off the rails. So, maybe we never should have got there in the first place. But once there, it raises the same “above the law” questions about the president that Trump’s actions do - if the president is free to lie to the court (a co-equal branch) without repercussions, then what is to stop him from lying to everyone?
you’re exactly right, when clinton lied it became ‘public’ behavior and fair game
im not disagreeing on any of that
just splitting a hair
all the republicans did what they did officially in the office acting as president - secret or not
reagan - iran-contra
gwb - iraq
ford - presidential pardon
nixon - using the power of the office to obstruct and cover up the crime (he was not initially part of)
LBJ - Gulf of Tonkin
Truman the steel mill nationalization
They just lock step together, lying to our faces. It is quite remarkable, and dangerous.
Just unfollowed Steve Kornacki, he’s in full-on BOTHSIDES mode today.
re: #161 Charles Johnson
Just unfollowed Steve Kornacki, he’s in full-on BOTHSIDES mode today.
Bothsidesing gets you tyranny.
Y’know, there’s a simple answer to all the Repub screaming fits about how this “precedent” means that the next president will be impeached: Just don’t impeach the next president. We’d gone 20 years without a president being impeached after Clinton, nearly 24 years prior to that.
The more realistic translation of what Repubs are saying is that, much like after Nixon was forced to resign to avoid impeachment, they will now feel pressured to retaliate and will be even less scrupulous about it.
re: #94 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)
loudermilk just went there
Jesus got more due process than trump
I can’t wait for the Trump flogging and watching him carry the cross.
this is just a marathon recopy of the two committee hearings
Hugh Hewitt is sounding more like a trollbot every day. https://t.co/NugvuhblG8
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
re: #164 Belafon
I can’t wait for the Trump flogging and watching him carry the cross.
Don’t think they teach the stations of the Golf Cart in parochial school.
Don’t both-sides me, bro.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
re: #167 HappyWarrior
Don’t think they teach the stations of the Golf Cart in parochial school.
Or the MAGAtitudes
Blessed are the Dealmakers
re: #164 Belafon
I can’t wait for the Trump flogging and watching him carry the cross.
That would be anti-climactic. I want something like the end of Randall Flagg in “The Stand”, a giant glowing hand… Semi-///
re: #166 Charles Johnson
The vaguely animate cream cheese scupture also known as Hugh Hewitt.
— Deirdre🇺🇸🏴 (@celtichumanscum) December 18, 2019
Really, when you hear Repubs tell you that there’s “precedent” being set today and that future presidents will be impeached, what they’re doing is stating their intent. They’re making it clear that they will continue in the mission they set for themselves in 1974: Forcing the resignation or removal of a Democrat from the presidency in order to “get even” for Nixon. They failed in that with Clinton and have nursed that grudge for decades since.
re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Or the MAGAtitudes
Blessed are the Dealmakers
Blessed are the porn star raw-doggers.
re: #159 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)
There’s another interesting aspect about impeachment, with respect to presidents at least:
Because it has been so sparingly used, and in incredibly questionable circumstances until now, we don’t know how presidents would have acted if it had been used semi-regularly.
Johnson’s impeachment was sort of bullshit in that the law he was accused for violating was probably unconstitutional. And since that impeachment failed, it got put away and never really used again. And thus another example of Congress deferring to the executive branch.
re: #173 Targetpractice
Really, when you hear Repubs tell you that there’s “precedent” being set today and that future presidents will be impeached, what they’re doing is stating their intent. They’re making it clear that they will continue in the mission they set for themselves in 1974: Forcing the resignation or removal of a Democrat from the presidency in order to “get even” for Nixon. They failed in that with Clinton and have nursed that grudge for decades since.
They still have a long-standing grudge or two going back to at least FDR. They want the New Deal repealed.
re: #176 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
They still have a long-standing grudge or two going back to at least FDR. They want the New Deal repealed.
They also want Nixon avenged.
Merry Christmas! And here’s a deranged, wildly abusive rant from the president, full of lies and conspiracy theories! Enjoy! https://t.co/p0QAGP7S7m
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
re: #94 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)
loudermilk just went there
Jesus got more due process than trump
It was put to the popular vote, right? And the majority got their preference?
re: #128 KGxvi
Other presidents that probably should have faced impeachment, off the top of my head: Reagan for Iran-Contra; GWB for lying about Iraq; Ford for his abuse of the pardon power re: Nixon; LBJ re the Gulf of Tonkin; Truman for the steel mill nationalization attempt underlying the Youngstown Steel case. That’s just in “modern” times. Further back, Jackson should have been impeached for sure.
When you think about it there was probably grounds to impeach some of our greatest presidents. FDR for creating the Japanese Internment camps, Lincoln for suspending the writ of habeas corpus. Those were times of war and all but still were pretty egregious examples of presidential over reach.
re: #173 Targetpractice
Really, when you hear Repubs tell you that there’s “precedent” being set today and that future presidents will be impeached, what they’re doing is stating their intent. They’re making it clear that they will continue in the mission they set for themselves in 1974: Forcing the resignation or removal of a Democrat from the presidency in order to “get even” for Nixon. They failed in that with Clinton and have nursed that grudge for decades since.
none of this is precedent of any kind
in fact they are misusing the word in this context
while it is a historical example there is nothing compelling it to be a guide
there is no stare decisis w/r/t impeachment
the constitution says what it says (and doesnt) - argue that
there are house rules and there are senate rules and any / all of them can be changed for any or no reason
re: #176 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
They still have a long-standing grudge or two going back to at least FDR. They want the New Deal repealed.
Their donor class wants the entire 20th century repealed, and have not been quiet in their intent. Only in the GOP can you actually hear someone suggest that things would be better in this country if child labor laws were abolished.
re: #175 KGxvi
There’s another interesting aspect about impeachment, with respect to presidents at least:
Because it has been so sparingly used, and in incredibly questionable circumstances until now, we don’t know how presidents would have acted if it had been used semi-regularly.
In a sane world, Trump would have been forced to actively divest his business interests before assuming office or face almost immediate charges of conflict of interest and Emoluments Clause violations.
Remember the Post Office located in one of his properties and all the Secret Service personnel renting rooms from him?
re: #128 KGxvi
I still tend to think that Clinton’s impeachment was warranted - he lied under oath in a civil trial and in doing so undermined the legal system; and in doing so violated his oath to protect and defend the constitution and to see that the law is faithfully executed. It’s probably about as low as the bar should be for impeachment.
Trump’s actions, specifically in the case of Ukraine but also more broadly, are well beyond Clinton’s actions. (For what it’s worth, I think Trump could have (and should have) faced a couple dozen articles of impeachment).
Other presidents that probably should have faced impeachment, off the top of my head: Reagan for Iran-Contra; GWB for lying about Iraq; Ford for his abuse of the pardon power re: Nixon; LBJ re the Gulf of Tonkin; Truman for the steel mill nationalization attempt underlying the Youngstown Steel case. That’s just in “modern” times. Further back, Jackson should have been impeached for sure.
I don’t think Ford abused his pardon power re: Nixon. Many people disagreed with his decision but, it was his to make. IIRC, I remember Ford explaining his decision saying he did not want to be President while his predecessor sat in a jail cell. It was the image of the US being seen as a “Banana Republic” to the rest of the World that bothered him.
Maybe he should have waited until Nixon was actually convicted of something before making that choice but, what’s done, is done.
re: #179 sagehen
It was put to the popular vote, right? And the majority got their preference?
they didnt have a contemporaneous recording secretary so the documentation is a bit unclear and apparently is open to wide interpretation
An abusive Unibomber rant is just the thing I want slipped under my office door for Christmas. Nothing says holiday cheer like a screed that sounds like it was penned in a plywood shack 200 miles out of Coeur d’Alene.
— Deirdre🇺🇸🏴 (@celtichumanscum) December 18, 2019
re: #180 danarchy
When you think about it there was probably grounds to impeach some of our greatest presidents. FDR for creating the Japanese Internment camps, Lincoln for suspending the writ of habeas corpus. Those were times of war and all but still were pretty egregious examples of presidential over reach.
The constitution specifically gives the power to suspend habeas corpus to Congress. The internment camps were obvious violations of the Fifth Amendment, regardless of what the Supreme Court said in Korematsu.
So, yeah, there’s plenty of examples.
re: #128 KGxvi
FWIW, the Clinton pardon of Mark Rich was probably a more serious problem than the lie about Monica Lewinsky.
I saw on Twitter that Republicans also brought up abortion. Can anyone confirm that?
re: #184 Cheechako
I don’t think Ford abused his pardon power re: Nixon. Many people disagreed with his decision but, it was his to make. IIRC, I remember Ford explaining his decision saying he did not want to be President while his predecessor sat in a jail cell. It was the image of the US being seen as a “Banana Republic” to the rest of the World that bothered him.
Maybe he should have waited until Nixon was actually convicted of something before making that choice but, what’s done, is done.
Without a conviction we don’t get to the truth. The pardon swept everything under the rug. We are not so forgiving when the accused are not white men.
re: #188 Scottish Dragon
FWIW, the Clinton pardon of Mark Rich was probably a more serious problem than the lie about Monica Lewinsky.
True, but it was a midnight pardon, and not really much that anyone could do since Clinton was termed out and hours away from not being president.
re: #187 KGxvi
The constitution specifically gives the power to suspend habeas corpus to Congress. The internment camps were obvious violations of the Fifth Amendment, regardless of what the Supreme Court said in Korematsu.
So, yeah, there’s plenty of examples.
I could understand the arguments for internment for “protection” but these people (many of the citizens and legal resident aliens) found their property confiscated and were treated as prisoners and suspected criminals instead of internees and people under protection.
Rep. Mike Kelly compares the impeachment of Donald Trump to the bombing of Pearl Harbor pic.twitter.com/Kdu1CdragH
— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) December 18, 2019
Come to think of it, the impeachment speeches from his GOP colleagues are kinda like the Michael Bay Peal Harbor movie….
re: #184 Cheechako
I don’t think Ford abused his pardon power re: Nixon. Many people disagreed with his decision but, it was his to make. IIRC, I remember Ford explaining his decision saying he did not want to be President while his predecessor sat in a jail cell. It was the image of the US being seen as a “Banana Republic” to the rest of the World that bothered him.
Maybe he should have waited until Nixon was actually convicted of something before making that choice but, what’s done, is done.
I understand his logic. And he gets credit for actually being willing to testify before Congress himself about it. But the only real limit to the president’s pardon power is impeachment, so if we think that the president went too far with his pardons, he should face impeachment. And I think a pardon under those circumstances isn’t right. But I will concede that reasonable minds can disagree.
re: #194 Scottish Dragon
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Come to think of it, the impeachment speeches from his GOP colleagues are kinda like the Michael Bay Peal Harbor movie….
Long, boring, and full of shit that has nothing to do with the actual events?
re: #182 Targetpractice
Their donor class wants the entire 20th century repealed, and have not been quiet in their intent. Only in the GOP can you actually hear someone suggest that things would be better in this country if child labor laws were abolished.
it’s not coming back
- coal is not coming back
- factories employing hundreds/thousands are not coming back - think programmers, engineers and robots
- the bucolic ‘family farm’ is not coming back - with technology one person can now do the work that used to take scores
- one dairy farmer, with tech, can manage 60-100 cows, not have to get up before 8am, and not touch a cow. no more three legged stools and milkmaids
what’s keeping all the above afloat?
subsidies and other artificial market means
re: #161 Charles Johnson
Just unfollowed Steve Kornacki, he’s in full-on BOTHSIDES mode today.
The real Both Sides issue we have: Banana Republicans+Trump, then the rabid left including aggressive Talibern, ToolsiBots, Young Turk Jerks.
We all know Russia is priming all this stuff.
re: #128 KGxvi
Other presidents that probably should have faced impeachment, off the top of my head: Reagan for Iran-Contra; GWB for lying about Iraq; Ford for his abuse of the pardon power re: Nixon; LBJ re the Gulf of Tonkin; Truman for the steel mill nationalization attempt underlying the Youngstown Steel case. That’s just in “modern” times. Further back, Jackson should have been impeached for sure.
Reagan: there’s a plausible case to be made that he was deep enough into the Alzheimer’s by then to have not understood what his team were up to. 25th Amendment, not impeachment.
GWB: a plausible case to be made that it was Cheney doing all the lying, and Bush not realizing. Impeach Cheney, get a better VP in there and then 25th Amendment GWB.
Ford: I have mixed feelings about this one. Won’t fit into a couple of sentences.
Johnson: the evidence didn’t become available until much, much later.
Truman: it wasn’t unconstitutional until after the supremes ruled, then he backed off.
Jackson: okay, I’ll agree with you on that one.
re: #183 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
In a sane world, Trump would have been forced to actively divest his business interests before assuming office or face almost immediate charges of conflict of interest and Emoluments Clause violations.
Remember the Post Office located in one of his properties and all the Secret Service personnel renting rooms from him?
i know what you mean
still, in a sane world, he never would have been elected, nor won the nom in the first place
re: #194 Scottish Dragon
Come to think of it, the impeachment speeches from his GOP colleagues are kinda like the Michael Bay Peal Harbor movie….
re: #196 Targetpractice
Long, boring, and full of shit that has nothing to do with the actual events?
Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing….
re: #184 Cheechako
I don’t think Ford abused his pardon power re: Nixon. Many people disagreed with his decision but, it was his to make. IIRC, I remember Ford explaining his decision saying he did not want to be President while his predecessor sat in a jail cell. It was the image of the US being seen as a “Banana Republic” to the rest of the World that bothered him.
Maybe he should have waited until Nixon was actually convicted of something before making that choice but, what’s done, is done.
i’d have settled for indicted
re: #175 KGxvi
There’s another interesting aspect about impeachment, with respect to presidents at least:
Because it has been so sparingly used, and in incredibly questionable circumstances until now, we don’t know how presidents would have acted if it had been used semi-regularly.
Johnson’s impeachment was sort of bullshit in that the law he was accused for violating was probably unconstitutional. And since that impeachment failed, it got put away and never really used again. And thus another example of Congress deferring to the executive branch.
Just IMO, Johnson’s “violation” of the Tenure Of Office Act (which was indeed, later found unconstitutional) was pretty much the merest excuse for his impeachment and trial: his “real” offense was being an immovable and unconvincible roadblock to Congressional (Republican) policies - especially as regarded Reconstruction and racial issues in general. As the Republicans had a united Party, a significant Congressional majority and a cohesive Cabinet on the Executive level, I think they just got tired of Johnson’s vetoes and obstructionism, and seized on the TOA as a “rationale” to oust him.
But I’d definitely take issue with your last sentence: in the aftermath of Johnson’s impeachment, Presidents - from Grant onward pretty much right up until FDR - tended to defer to Congress in most matters (the “traditional” American system); wartimes being the only significant exceptions.
re: #187 KGxvi
The constitution specifically gives the power to suspend habeas corpus to Congress. The internment camps were obvious violations of the Fifth Amendment, regardless of what the Supreme Court said in Korematsu.
So, yeah, there’s plenty of examples.
as we’re seeing here now, today, you need more than even obvious grounds to impeach
it also takes a willing congress
By the way, if you’re someone who paid money to watch Pearl Harbor in the hopes that you’d see a movie about the actual event rather than “Titanic with guns,” I really suggest checking out Midway when it comes out on DVD.
re: #190 Belafon
I saw on Twitter that Republicans also brought up abortion. Can anyone confirm that?
is it a day ending in ‘-day’?
re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg
So when’s the vote, yo?
Some time between now and the heat death of the universe.
Leclerc MBT pic.twitter.com/953ihscKhI
— Giant Military Cats (@giantcat9) December 17, 2019
re: #199 sagehen
Reagan: there’s a plausible case to be made that he was deep enough into the Alzheimer’s by then to have not understood what his team were up to. 25th Amendment, not impeachment.
GWB: a plausible case to be made that it was Cheney doing all the lying, and Bush not realizing. Impeach Cheney, get a better VP in there and then 25th Amendment GWB.
Ford: I have mixed feelings about this one. Won’t fit into a couple of sentences.
Johnson: the evidence didn’t become available until much, much later.
Truman: it wasn’t unconstitutional until after the supremes ruled, then he backed off.
Jackson: okay, I’ll agree with you on that one.
I need to read more about it, but I believe with LBJ and the Gulf of Tonkin there was Senator Morse arguing that something wasn’t right. And Johnson sort of rushed the resolution to avoid further investigation.
The 25th wouldn’t really work with GWB under your circumstances. Which is why impeachment would be needed.
re: #206 Targetpractice
By the way, if you’re someone who paid money to watch Pearl Harbor in the hopes that you’d see a movie about the actual event rather than “Titanic with guns,” I really suggest checking out Midway when it comes out on DVD.
Refused to spend money in Midway at the theater. Waiting for Red Box.
Airborne kitteh gonna take a little trip….
C-130 pic.twitter.com/cNgzzXdSVF
— Giant Military Cats (@giantcat9) December 18, 2019
re: #214 Scottish Dragon
Airborne kitteh gonna take a little trip….
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And, obviously, land on its feet……
re: #215 Jay C
And, obviously, land on its feet……
…unless there’s a slice of buttered toast strapped to it’s back…
Gohmert is a moron. Not sure what the hell he’s even trying to say except Asparagus.
re: #192 KGxvi
True, but it was a midnight pardon, and not really much that anyone could do except nurse that grudge and hold it against Hillary years later as an example of something she’d been okay with.
since Clinton was termed out and hours away from not being president.
GOHMERT! pic.twitter.com/67x94x9J1F
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
JFC!
My phone just buzzed with an unfamiliar tone: it was a NWS “Snow Squall Warning” for the NYC metro area from 16:15 on.
And checking, I see marine warnings as well: so any Big Apple Lizards out at sea ought to head for harbor ASAP….
re: #216 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)
…unless there’s a slice of buttered toast strapped to it’s back…
Dems: Here is a list of the impeachable offenses, facts supporting same, etc.
GOP: Here’s a bunch of ahistorical, hysterical analogies.
Press: Both sides.
If I’m having to cruise around in an M5 Stuart in the December Argonnes forest, I want a giant warm fluffy kitteh in my tank turret too.
— Deirdre🇺🇸🏴 (@celtichumanscum) December 18, 2019
re: #214 Scottish Dragon
Airborne kitteh gonna take a little trip….
C-130 pic.twitter.com/cNgzzXdSVF
— Giant Military Cats (@giantcat9) December 18, 2019
Airborne Kitteh, Airborne Kitteh, what did you do?
I killed a li’l mousy for me and you.
Hey, keep control of the articles. Good man!
Nailed it!
— Andy Hausman (@Ahaus101) December 18, 2019
I’m so bored w the “impeachment tries to ‘undo’ an election argument.”
Cf: A presidential pardon serves to “undo” the findings and sentencing of the judicial system. Are the GOP speaking out about that?
Of course not. It’s a power built into the Constitution. LIKE IMPEACHMENT.— Asha Rangappa (@AshaRangappa_) December 18, 2019
i’d like someone to ask an R
how do you impeach someone who is not the duly elected president of the united states?
(no i dont mean other civil officers and judges)
Wow - After Gohmert spoke, Nadler said: “I’m deeply concerned that any member of the House would spew Russian propaganda on the floor of the House.” Gohmert starts yelling
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) December 18, 2019
Fighting Kitties from the sky
Fearless felines who jump and die
Cats who mean just what they say
The brave kitties of the Green Beret
Silver Wings upon their chest
These are cats America’s best
100 cats will test today
But only 3 win the Green Beret— 𝘞𝘉 𝘠𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘨 🍕🐀 (@FormerDirtDart) December 18, 2019
re: #229 Dread Pirate
Republicans are literally throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. It’s grimly entertaining to see the exact same ‘arguments’ being made by online right-wing trolls and by Congressional Republicans.
What I’d really like to see is something like this in a NYT or WaPo headline: “Impeachment Day: Democrats bring reality-based charges, Republicans fling shit in response”
The malicious refusal of the mainstream political media to do its only fucking job will be the death of us all.
re: #228 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
I know it doesn’t fit, but “that’s no moon”
Trump’s letter to Nancy Pelosi contains what psychoanalysts define as delusional projection. We rarely see this deteriorated level of functioning outside an in-patient psychiatric ward. He is on the verge of what we call ego “decompensation.” The letter is a 6 page tweet.
— JustinAFrankMD (@JustinFrankMD) December 17, 2019
“They continue to play footsie with the Trump administration, not really realizing they’re doing so to the detriment of their credibility with lots of influential stakeholders,” said this source, an American who frequently engages with the Ukrainian government.
— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) December 18, 2019
re: #235 Scottish Dragon
while he may have ‘directed’ it, everyone now knows he didnt write it
oh, unless you mean the actual authors…Eric Ueland, Stephen Miller, and Michael Williams
Trump’s letter to Nancy Pelosi contains what psychoanalysts define as delusional projection. We rarely see this deteriorated level of functioning outside an in-patient psychiatric ward. He is on the verge of what we call ego “decompensation.” The letter is a 6 page tweet.
— JustinAFrankMD (@JustinFrankMD) December 17, 2019
re: #236 Dread Pirate
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“the guy i tried to shake down cleared me”
really?
i weep for sanity in that’s where he is, and the R’s are 100% behind this nonsense
re: #235 Scottish Dragon
I had to look that up on Wiki and it says…
In psychology, the term refers to the inability to maintain defense mechanisms in response to stress, resulting in personality disturbance or psychological imbalance.[2][3] Some who suffer from narcissistic personality disorder or borderline personality disorder may decompensate into persecutory delusions to defend against a troubling reality.[4]
Sounds about right to this layman.
re: #237 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)
while he may have ‘directed’ it, everyone now knows he didnt write it
oh, unless you mean the actual authors…Eric Ueland, Stephen Miller, and Michael Williams
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He wrote it. They cleaned up the obvious spelling errors and edited it.
GOP Rep Sensenbrenner just complained that Democratis spent “millions of taxpayer dollars” on the Mueller investigation
Robert Mueller was appointed special counsel by the Trump Justice Department— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) December 18, 2019
If you want to listen to something else.
re: #241 Scottish Dragon
He wrote it. They cleaned up the obvious spelling errors and edited it.
i got it from this: (i cant read the actual article)
New York Times: “Some of the president’s closest advisers were involved in drafting the letter, but they did not include Pat A. Cipollone, the White House counsel who will play a large role in a Senate trial.”
“Instead, Eric Ueland, the director of the Office of Legislative Affairs, led the process, with input from Stephen Miller, the president’s top policy adviser, who often scripts many of Mr. Trump’s public remarks. Michael Williams, an adviser to Mick Mulvaney, the president’s acting chief of staff, also weighed in, and Mr. Ueland’s draft was framed over the last few days.”
jason smith (R-mo) “impeachment is not a political weapon”
talk to mcconnell, graham, et al
re: #100 Jay C
I read that whole piece, - even the irrelevant side-trip to Britain and BS about Jeremy Corbyn - and man, do trans issues send Dreher over the edge (it used to be gay issues, but he seems to have backed off slightly on the full-metal homophobia)! He seriously thinks that trans rights are going to be the killer issue in next year’s campaign(s)? That Democrats even tangentially making it a factor are going to alienate vast masses of voters, and send them rushing to the ballot boxes in revulsion to massively vote in Republicans? Out of fears over “womens’ athletics”?? SRSLY??
I think there might be something else to this. Over in Britain, there’s been a lot of anti-trans activity by campaigners popularly known as “TERFs”. (Which stands for “Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists”) A lot of folx in the queer community are noting that:
a) The arguments used against trans people are virtually identical to those used against gay men decades before
b) It has been noticed that certain US social conservatives are developing this as a strategy, a wedge issue- using the arguments against trans people to normalise the same attacks against the rest of the queer community
c) These TERF groups in Britain are generally very small, yet they seem to have got enough money from somewhere to be able to afford adverts in newspapers, poster campaigns, etc.
So perhaps Mr Dreher backing off the homophobia and concentrating on trans issues is him hammering away at a wedge issue.
re: #236 Dread Pirate
Unfortunately, that’s the down side to “there’s only one president at a time.” Ukraine, like all our allies, really have no choice but to work with the Trump administration because we only have the Trump administration.
Hopefully, they are also developing ties to leaders in Congress, but foreign policy is (mostly) the purview of the executive branch.
This is the GOP. pic.twitter.com/iqGgFnzXgE
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
This is the GOP. pic.twitter.com/GIyMTBa5bP
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
This is the GOP. pic.twitter.com/Hccfw76FJz
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
This is the GOP. pic.twitter.com/CM88ZBgmF5
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
This is the GOP. pic.twitter.com/sZBbhs3n7j
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
This is the GOP. pic.twitter.com/6LR0q3foKV
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
Justin Amash has moved to the Democratic side and looks like he’ll get some time shortly.
— Jim Newell (@jim_newell) December 18, 2019
This is the GOP. pic.twitter.com/jdZ2DD0R1s
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
The whole thing about Impeachment being used as a means to undo the election is stupid. Even if Trump WAS Removed, REPUBLICANS KEEP THE FUCKING PRESIDENCY!
That doesn’t “undo” anything. Stupid fuckers.
I wonder if they’ll drag this out and hold the actual vote in prime time. That would grind Trumps gears big time.
possibly because of the 100% house R recalcitrance and maybe it’s telegraphing what we already know the senate is gonna do, here’s two stories about delay:
“A group of House Democrats is pushing Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other leaders to withhold the articles of impeachment against President Trump that are expected to emerge on Wednesday, potentially delaying a Senate trial for months,” the Washington Post reports.
“The notion of impeaching Trump but holding the articles in the House has gained traction among some on the political left as a way of potentially forcing Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) to conduct a trial on more favorable terms for Democrats. And if no agreement is reached, some have argued, the trial could be delayed indefinitely, denying Trump an expected acquittal.”
—-
“House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, the second-ranking lawmaker in the House, said Wednesday that Democrats must discuss a last-ditch gambit to delay sending articles of impeachment to the Senate and prevent the Republican controlled chamber from summarily discarding the case against President Trump,” Politico reports.
Said Hoyer: “Some think it’s a good idea. And we need to talk about it.”
re: #252 Eclectic Cyborg
The whole thing about Impeachment being used as a means to undo the election is stupid. Even if Trump WAS Removed, REPUBLICANS KEEP THE FUCKING PRESIDENCY!
That doesn’t “undo” anything. Stupid fuckers.
I remember talking to someone in 2016, it was around the time of the VP debate and they said something along the lines of, “I feel like this is the one to watch because one of them is going to end up being president before the next election.” They may have been joking, but I wonder if a lot of people felt that way
Does everyone in the house get to speak?
This is the GOP. pic.twitter.com/OPlhvV6MVa
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
re: #256 I Would Prefer Not To
Does everyone in the house get to speak?
Not sure, but it’d be nice if AOC did.
re: #252 Eclectic Cyborg
The whole thing about Impeachment being used as a means to undo the election is stupid. Even if Trump WAS Removed, REPUBLICANS KEEP THE FUCKING PRESIDENCY!
That doesn’t “undo” anything. Stupid fuckers.
its totally effective for the multitude of rubes screaming ‘read the transcript’ who admit they havent/didnt/wont
I almost feel bad for the number of F-bombs I’m dropping today…almost. :P
Rep. Fred Keller ended his little speech by saying “I’ll pray for them” (meaning Democrats) and dredging up another bible quote: “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.”
I think I’m gonna hurl.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
re: #253 Eclectic Cyborg
I heard this morning that once the vote was held tonight, the GOP idiots’ talking point was then going to be blaming the Democrats for holding the vote in the dead of night (at 8:00 PM??!!). Having it in prime time is absolutely the right thing to do. I want everyone to tune in.
re: #225 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Airborne Kitteh, Airborne Kitteh, what did you do?
I killed a li’l mousy for me and you.
love to eat them mousies
mousies what i love to eat
bite they tiny heads off
nibble on they tiny feet
A table behind me just prayed for Trump before their lunch. Texas.
Wow. The NWS was spot-on in its (apparently first-time) “snow squall” warning: I got back from shopping at 4:12, and at 4:15, an instant blizzard materialized outside, and there looks to already be about 1/4-inch down.
Glad to be indoors, warming myself with the thoughts of Trump’s discomfiture…..
In other news:
With that, the panel’s extremely important Katie quota has been met.
— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) December 18, 2019
(and if you’re having trouble remembering which Katie is which:)
I’m excited to announce that I’m joining @OversightDems. I’ve worked hard during my time in Congress to hold CEOs and top officials accountable to everyday Americans. I’ll be using this new position to continue speaking up for working families. Stay tuned for updates.
— Rep. Katie Porter (@RepKatiePorter) December 18, 2019
i do like that each time an R makes a wild statement, schiff, nadler or whoever slaps it right down
re: #262 Ace Rothstein
I heard this morning that once the vote was held tonight, the GOP idiots’ talking point was then going to be blaming the Democrats for holding the vote in the dead of night (at 8:00 PM??!!). Having it in prime time is absolutely the right thing to do. I want everyone to tune in.
they tried to delay one of the committee votes to get the same optics
nadler outsmarted them
re: #262 Ace Rothstein
I heard this morning that once the vote was held tonight, the GOP idiots’ talking point was then going to be blaming the Democrats for holding the vote in the dead of night (at 8:00 PM??!!). Having it in prime time is absolutely the right thing to do. I want everyone to tune in.
That’s what happened last week. GOP delays etc. would make the final vote that day ‘happen in the dead of night’. The Democrats avoided that trap, and the ‘dead of night’ charge should have far less bite to it now that the schedule has been set in advance.
oooh, socialistic, left, democrats, and unborn babbbies!
re: #241 Scottish Dragon
He wrote it. They cleaned up the obvious spelling errors and edited it.
and did a shit job of it
This is the GOP. pic.twitter.com/aq4LlCvhBF
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
re: #261 Charles Johnson
Jesus made that statement in reference to the people WHO WERE CRUCIFYING HIM, the same people that are roughly analogues of todays GOP.
It’ll never happen, but I do kinda like the idea.
Pelosi and Schumer should hold a somber press conference where they offer to drop the impeachment vote if Trump is willing to resign today, and then say they look forward to starting a new chapter with Vice President Pence.
It’s the kind of thing McConnell would do! https://t.co/K72nGKKPPL— Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) December 18, 2019
re: #253 Eclectic Cyborg
I wonder if they’ll drag this out and hold the actual vote in prime time. That would grind Trumps gears big time.
what would grind his gears if the vote is taken after his little pep rally in Battle Creek
re: #267 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)
i do like that each time an R makes a wild statement, schiff, nadler or whoever slaps it right down
This is what I described earlier about how the general tone of these hearings is a lot more serious and elevated than what we are used to on social and broadcast media, which puts the GOP at a disadvantage.
re: #262 Ace Rothstein
I heard this morning that once the vote was held tonight, the GOP idiots’ talking point was then going to be blaming the Democrats for holding the vote in the dead of night (at 8:00 PM??!!). Having it in prime time is absolutely the right thing to do. I want everyone to tune in.
“We interrupt the Presidents rally to bring you this breaking news….”
Yeah, I know. Not gonna happen, but I can dream. Right?
Another version of “This is the GOP” is this:
Republicans are a shit party having shit elected officials beholden only to shitty rich psychopaths. They use shit propaganda to get their shit-for-brains voters to the polls (and to drag along a few dipshit both-siderists too).
I hate to be region biased—I was raised by a mother from deep rural Georgia and I spent considerable time there—but the inane defenses of Trump and accusations that Democrats are “far-left socialists who just discovered the Constitution” seems to come most often with a drawl.
No Tweets from the Tangerine Tyrant for four hours now.
re: #281 Eclectic Cyborg
No Tweets from the Tangerine Tyrant for four hours now.
he’s “working” all day
his press sec even said so this morning
re: #281 Eclectic Cyborg
No Tweets from the Tangerine Tyrant for four hours now.
Someone at the White House must have dropped his phone in wet cement.
re: #275 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
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Someone saw this on reddit. Is the money sticking out of his pocket photoshopped there, or is he actually sitting there with that sticking out for all to see?
(Might also be some of those fake 2020 bills with Trump’s picture on them of course.)
probably not Photoshopped
might not be money
This is the GOP. pic.twitter.com/GIyMTBa5bP
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
re: #280 Barefoot Grin
I hate to be region biased—I was raised by a mother from deep rural Georgia and I spent considerable time there—but the inane defenses of Trump and accusations that Democrats are “far-left socialists who just discovered the Constitution” seems to come most often with a drawl.
You are not wrong.
Although there ARE some more liberal areas in the South, the vast majority of the region is still conservative to the bone, largely because a lot of people in these states STILL think the wrong side won the Civil War.
re: #275 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
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Someone saw this on reddit. Is the money sticking out of his pocket photoshopped there, or is he actually sitting there with that sticking out for all to see?
(Might also be some of those fake 2020 bills with Trump’s picture on them of course.)
It’s not shopped, you can see it in all the photos I posted above. Can’t really tell from the screenshots what it is, though. Could be a bill, could be something that just happens to look similar.
re: #285 Eclectic Cyborg
You are not wrong.
Although there ARE some more liberal areas in the South, the vast majority of the region is still conservative to the bone, largely because a lot of people in these states STILL think the wrong side won the Civil War.
gee that’s the argument the r’s are making about the d’s today
Oh, to see the uncensored draft…
Hey everyone, I will be speaking on the House Floor today at approx 5:20pm ET about #impeachment.
Unfortunately, House rules prevent me from saying everything I’d like to say, but I will share my full message about all of the reasons why 45 should be impeached this evening.— Maxine Waters (@RepMaxineWaters) December 18, 2019
Your annual festive reminder that Saint Nicholas bears a surprising resemblance to Lieutenant Worf. pic.twitter.com/8ERF9OojMk
— Beau (@DrBeauBeaumont) December 17, 2019
re: #285 Eclectic Cyborg
The confederate traitor flag flies quite a bit here. In our little town’s downtown area is a civil war railroad museum and across the street is a shop owned by a dude named Dent Myers. It’s full of “memorabilia” including post cards featuring photos of lynchings. He was named citizen of the year a couple years ago. Because he runs a summer camp to teach kids civil war history in full regalia. It’s gross. The whole downtown area has been redone, except his shabby ass building.
I have never seen most of these Republican reps, and is it just me, or are they an odd looking bunch? I realize I am odd looking, too, but jeeze Louise!
re: #272 Charles Johnson
It’s almost as if all of them are old white men.
re: #281 Eclectic Cyborg
No Tweets from the Tangerine Tyrant for four hours now.
He’s reached catatonia. Reality is setting in, maybe.
re: #290 A Mom Anon
Believe me, I get it. There’s a dude three minutes up the road from me who flies FIVE Confederate flags in his yard.
I’m also not far from the Jefferson Davis Presidential Library, the unofficial Library of the first and only President of the CSA.
Not to mention the Confederate Battle Flag is part of our official state flag, so yeah.
re: #292 Ace Rothstein
It’s almost as if all of them are old white men.
And they all repeat the same bullshit talking points ad nauseam.
re: #281 Eclectic Cyborg
No Tweets from the Tangerine Tyrant for four hours now.
his last tweet was full on cracked
SUCH ATROCIOUS LIES BY THE RADICAL LEFT, DO NOTHING DEMOCRATS. THIS IS AN ASSAULT ON AMERICA, AND AN ASSAULT ON THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!!!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 18, 2019
Rep. Justin Amash: “I come to this floor not as a Democrat, not as a Republican, but as an American who cares deeply about the Constitution, the rule of law, and the rights of the people … Impeachment is about maintaining the integrity of the office of the presidency.” Via ABC pic.twitter.com/9OUToqnOVZ
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) December 18, 2019
Good on ya, Congressman.
re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth
his last tweet was full on cracked
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re: #297 makeitstop
Agreed. I’m impressed with Amash. He seems to be a genuine “country over party” guy which is so rare these days.
When Gohmert is gone, who will speak for the brain worms?
— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) December 18, 2019
re: #298 Eclectic Cyborg
Wait until you see the ones AFTER the vote.
I have a bottle of wine uncorked and waiting…
and cheese…stinky delicious cheese…
radical socialist wing of the party
drink!
I love the talking point that goes: ‘Nancy Pelosi said she wouldn’t impeach unless it was bipartisan, and we’re going to defend the president no matter what, so it’s not bipartisan, so let’s go home.’
NYC metro area hit by severe snow squalls: these photos were taken about a minute apart.
Snow squall moving into Hoboken and Lower Manhattan pic.twitter.com/4O3TlcmoKD
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) December 18, 2019
re: #305 lawhawk
NYC metro area hit by severe snow squalls: these photos were taken about a minute apart.
What photos?
now I see
re: #298 Eclectic Cyborg
Wait until you see the ones AFTER the vote.
every tweet after the vote (presumably) will be from an impeached president.
another first!
re: #305 lawhawk
NYC metro area hit by severe snow squalls: these photos were taken about a minute apart.
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I’d hate to be driving when that happened.
The final myth blown to smithereens Wednesday is the notion that there are Republicans of goodwill in the House ready to call out Trump’s conduct as wrong and unacceptable but arguing that it does not quite amount to an impeachable offense https://t.co/VpQejmBKaQ
— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) December 18, 2019
re: #305 lawhawk
how’s powerlines v ice situation in Jersey?
re: #304 Barefoot Grin
I love the talking point that goes: ‘Nancy Pelosi said she wouldn’t impeach unless it was bipartisan, and we’re going to defend the president no matter what, so it’s not bipartisan, so let’s go home.’
dont ever try and unravel any of this.
it doesnt have to make sense.
it just has to be effective
re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth
how’s powerlines v ice situation in Jersey?
I’m going to be finding out shortly…. but there’s scattered outages all over Northern NJ where the ice storm from yesterday still slicked trees and lines.
elsewhere…
This kind of assault on a woman’s identity is not OK. Also, Tom Kludt reached out to Sally Albright as well to try to get her to dox me as well. Interesting because most people think #IAmSally@BernieSanders never denouncers his supporters who harass women online in his name. pic.twitter.com/lGfdMQQm1F
— M. Mendoza Ferrer (@m_mendozaferrer) December 18, 2019
re: #312 lawhawk
I’m going to be finding out shortly…. but there’s scattered outages all over Northern NJ where the ice storm from yesterday still slicked trees and lines.
good deal…doesn’t look too bad right now
This is the GOP. pic.twitter.com/ixgA8VNE6H
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 18, 2019
Just had a small earthquake in SE Alaska - 5.5
Just a small shaking here at the Homestead.
Edit: Changed the intensity
re: #305 lawhawk
NYC metro area hit by severe snow squalls: these photos were taken about a minute apart.
Hey Lawhawk, are you knowledgeable about Nikon dslrs? I’ve been getting the itch to expand my digital capabilities with a D3200 and a 35/1.8.
.@RepAdamSchiff’s speech will be on the right page of the history books. “They have made their choice, and I believe they will rue the day that they did,” he said about the gutless gang of @GOP eunuchs enabling the Syphilitic Sock Monkey, leader of the #TurdReich. #ResignTrump
— Lesley Abravanel🆘 (@lesleyabravanel) December 18, 2019
It is pure Gimmetarianism.
I want what I want. https://t.co/rxhxfr0iuN— David Waldman-1, of Yorktown LLC™ (@KagroX) December 18, 2019
re: #317 William Lewis
I shoot Nikon. That 3200 is a DX meaning the sensor is a 1.5 crop. A 35mm lens on that wouldn’t make such sense since it effectively makes it a 50mm.
The GOP are putting on a show for their fundamentalist base.
That the rest of us are aghast at that shitheadery just shows how difficult it is today to find a way to reach those who are so into hiding from modernity that they can’t even acknowledge when Trump’s activity clearly is wrong by even their own (previously preached) standards.
re: #322 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
The GOP are putting on a show for their fundamentalist base.
That the rest of us are aghast at that shitheadery just shows how difficult it is today to find a way to reach those who are so into hiding from modernity that they can’t even acknowledge when Trump’s activity clearly is wrong by even their own (previously preached) standards.
Good luck getting the media to acknowledge that’s why bipartisanship doesn’t sell. But yeah this is exactly right. When Clinton was impeached, Democrats acknowledged he acted improperly. They didn’t think it was impeachable obviously but they didn’t deny wrongdoing either. There have been few House Republicans that have offered even a mild condemnation let alone criticism.
re: #315 Charles Johnson
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Are those benjamins? What kind of fool goes around with hundred dollar bills hanging out of his pocket? Never mind, we already have our answer.
All roads…
EXCLUSIVE: Trump admin quietly working to sink new sanctions on Russia. https://t.co/bBVBAE9QpG
— Noah Shachtman (@NoahShachtman) December 18, 2019
re: #324 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
And where the fuck did that money come from? That’s my question.
Hours before the House votes on articles of impeachment, President Trump greets supporters but does not speak to reporters. pic.twitter.com/CJUP2iQzH8
— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) December 18, 2019
Coward.
re: #325 Dread Pirate
All roads…
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“The Trump administration is quietly fighting a new package of sanctions on Russia, the Daily Beast has learned. A Trump State Department official sent a 22-page letter to a top Senate chairman on Tuesday making a wide-ranging case against a new sanctions bill.”
“Sen. Lindsey Graham—usually a staunch ally of the White House—introduced the legislation earlier this year. It’s designed to punish Russian individuals and companies over the Kremlin’s targeting of Ukraine, as well as its 2016 election interference in the U.S., its activities in Syria, and its attacks on dissidents.”
re: #326 A Mom Anon
And where the fuck did that money come from? That’s my question.
They sell their votes for cheap.
re: #321 Ace Rothstein
I shoot Nikon.
I shot some Nikon but mosty Canon in film days. I’ve got Olympus m4/3 for digital now but I have the urge to try Nikon for a dslr experience.
Driving back from skiing today I was listening to the house floor on the radio. I could tell that Republicans are doing everything they can to avoid saying things like “lying sons of bitches,” “those motherfucking demonrats on the other side of the aisle,” “Trump ought to kick your lily asses for this,” “you all should be hanged for treason,” and “this will start a second civil war.” The rage they have for Democrats is disgusting, their mouth-breathing constituents hear them loud and clear, they’re angling for the “unAmerican” descriptor of their fellow Americans who are Democrats.
andy biggs conflates 100% stonewalling with ‘asserting EP”
I definitely worry for the safety of anyone who voted for impeachment especially in the more Trump friendly districts.
re: #326 A Mom Anon
And where the fuck did that money come from? That’s my question.
Koch Industries..
re: #326 A Mom Anon
And where the fuck did that money come from? That’s my question.
The Mercer’s, Foster Fries, Adelson and other assorted rich Pimps!
re: #333 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)
andy biggs conflates 100% stonewalling with ‘asserting EP”
This is why you elect “common sense conservatives” who will stand up to Professor Obama, the ignorant constitutional law professor.//
half these guys are reading stuff other people have written for them
they couldnt explain or support any of these talking points themselves
re: #338 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)
half these guys are reading stuff other people have written for them
they couldnt explain or support any of these talking points themselves
Sincerity matters. There isn’t a damn thing sincere about the Trump GOP.
r’s conflating federal rules of evidence and process with constitutional /congressional ones
if they really believed this stuff, then wow, none of them belong in congress
sadly, i know they know better and this is all theater
Joe Wilson is a terrible reader. Among other terrible things…
Florida Man Matt Gaetz the job done. pic.twitter.com/Y14yF7pA8C
— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) December 18, 2019
Clay Higgins of LA takes the cake though. He’s worth 2 Gohmerts and a Nunes plus Louisiana has Scalise batting cleanup. LA has a Cinderella team is all I’m saying.
— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) December 18, 2019
re: #343 gocart mozart
Poor Louisiana but at least they re-elected Bel-Edwards.
Appeals court rules ACA’s individual mandate unconstitutional, asks lower court to decide whether rest of law can stand without it
Now watch the corrupted courts kill Obamacare and give Republicans the orgasm they’ve been craving for years!
re: #291 retired cynic
I have never seen most of these Republican reps, and is it just me, or are they an odd looking bunch? I realize I am odd looking, too, but jeeze Louise!
there are 435 reps in the house and aside from the ones that do the cable news rounds I can’t recognize most of them.
re: #345 BeachDem
NO PROOF that Virginia Foxx is an actual human.
I forgot about her. It’s crazy the whole day I’ve only heard from a few GOP women. If this really is their party’s future, they’re fucked in the long run.
i have a desktop with two monitors on my desk - center and right
a left handed trackball and keyboard in a kb drawer
my 2019 tax software wont run on win 7 and i refuse to upgrade
so now there’s an old laptop sitting on the left corner of my desk (win 10)
there’s a right hand mouse next to it because i hate mouse pads
so right hand on the mouse controlling the left screen and left hand simulaneously on the trackball controlling the center and right screens
there will be bourbon tonight. some of it celebratory though
I ran out of stamina about three hours into the hearings (same Repug crap over and over) and went out for a manicure and lunch, also seasonal peppermint ice cream. And I was given this fortune cookie:
Finding exotic uses for what others ignore will make your special fortune.
Not touching that with a stick.
re: #347 danarchy
there are 435 reps in the house and aside from the ones that do the cable news rounds I can’t recognize most of them.
We’re probably used to the ones that have been around a long time, are on important committees, and the biggest social media presence.
Has Jennifer Wexton spoke yet or we only hearing from Republicans?
Rice just lying and lying and again, a really poor reader (perhaps a reflection on SC education?)
It’s always 1 - transactional (what’s in it for him, trademarks? condos? etc) and 2 - to destabilize the democratic world order (Bannon’s footprint). All the while the rubes eat it up—‘yeah, ‘Murica first!’.
— I need more sleep (@PomWhisperer) December 18, 2019
re: #355 Dread Pirate
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Short thread…
One of the things I did not have on my impeachment bingo card is that the GOP would have to sideline the top Republican on the Intelligence Committee from these proceedings…
1/3— Rachel Maddow MSNBC (@maddow) December 18, 2019
Where is Devin???
re: #357 makeitstop
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Where is Devin???
Devin getting the old Trump bus ride?
Giuliani used his job as Trump’s lawyer to seek a payday of at least $200K from Yuriy Lutsenko while helping him get Yovanovitch fired - because she opposed his corruption. That’s what’s corrupt. For Rudy to call her that is a silly projection but still a disgraceful smear. https://t.co/31ACmopF9b
— Dan Friedman (@dfriedman33) December 17, 2019
And Firtash paid Parnas $1 million, prosecutors said Tuesday. Giuliani, paid by Parnas, picked an especially bad time to accuse a civil servant of corruption. https://t.co/sZ9GhUCrmY
— Dan Friedman (@dfriedman33) December 17, 2019
Firtash pays Parnas. Parnas pays Rudy. Rudy, through free legal help, pays Trump. There’s corruption.
— Dan Friedman (@dfriedman33) December 17, 2019
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers and sisters;
For s/he to-day that votes with me
Shall be my brother/sister; be ye ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle your condition;
And Republicans in DC now a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Impeachment Day.
re: #351 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!
I ran out of stamina about three hours into the hearings (same Repug crap over and over) and went out for a manicure and lunch, also seasonal peppermint ice cream. And I was given this fortune cookie:
Finding exotic uses for what others ignore will make your special fortune.
Not touching that with a stick.
I’m just listening to the Ds and muting the Rs. Keeps me busy on these 35 second clips!
I’m working on a big analysis of the Fifth Circuit’s Obamacare case, but my initial impression is that the two Republicans everyone expected to strike down Obamacare got spooked.
It’s still a bad opinion, but it’s not nearly as awful as I was expecting.— Ian Millhiser (@imillhiser) December 18, 2019
re: #363 retired cynic
I’m just listening to the Ds and muting the Rs. Keeps me busy on these 35 second clips!
Did that last time. Doing it now. But for a while, I just couldn’t.
re: #369 BeachDem
Maxine gets applause. Collins is pissed.
Collins was born pissed. He’s had a lot of practice.
re: #368 HappyWarrior
Michael Tracey just wet his pants.
And he just went and hid in the corner with his security blanket! 😂
Are the repugs only talking (if you can call it that) for 35 seconds so as to save their time for their “big guns?” Save us, please, from a diatribe from Gym later in the proceedings (although, I hear he has to wear a jacket today to speak from the floor, so there’s that.)
re: #346 Joe Bacon 🌹
Appeals court rules ACA’s individual mandate unconstitutional, asks lower court to decide whether rest of law can stand without it
Now watch the corrupted courts kill Obamacare and give Republicans the orgasm they’ve been craving for years!
And then, if they play it right, watch Democrats take all three branches of government in 2021.
loser…
Thank you Michigan, I am on my way. See everybody soon! #KAG pic.twitter.com/GP9SbH67CN
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 18, 2019
re: #321 Ace Rothstein
I shoot Nikon. That 3200 is a DX meaning the sensor is a 1.5 crop. A 35mm lens on that wouldn’t make such sense since it effectively makes it a 50mm.
Yes, it’s a normal view. To me, that is the proper lens for a camera. I’d need a 24 for wide and a 50 for portrait lengths eventually. I suppose the 18-55VR kit lens would be smarter in many ways but I’m an old fart an like my primes.
re: #368 HappyWarrior
Michael Tracey just wet his pants.
He can’t help it, that’s involuntary due to the brain damage after his savage beating.
//
re: #374 Barefoot Grin
And then, if they play it right, watch Democrats take all three branches of government in 2021.
That is probably why the 5th Circuit didn’t declare the ACA unconstitutional, instead of punting it back to the trial court. They won’t kill Obamacare before the election.
Evening Lizardim. How go things?
Large poster showing map of 2016 election results spotted in the Oval Office as House prepares for impeachment vote and Trump heads to Christmas rally in Michigan pic.twitter.com/Lu7IdyoHN9
— Kevin Liptak (@Kevinliptakcnn) December 18, 2019
The posters appear to be on their way to Michigan pic.twitter.com/89NEukqZfW
— Kevin Liptak (@Kevinliptakcnn) December 18, 2019
re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth
loser…
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re: #321 Ace Rothstein
I shoot Nikon. That 3200 is a DX meaning the sensor is a 1.5 crop. A 35mm lens on that wouldn’t make such sense since it effectively makes it a 50mm.
I shot Nikon as well. When I had a D90, which has a similar sensor size to the 3200, for a time I used a 35mm, precisely because it would effectively act like a 50mm prime lens, and I could get really good results in available light. And given I was doing photography for club nights, that means pretty low light levels. (I’d normally put the lens down to f1.8, up the ISO, and do a bit or de-noising and sharpening in Adobe Lightroom.) Here’s an example of the kind of shot I could get out of the setup.
EDIT: I now currently use a Nikon D750, which has a full frame sensor, so I now tend to use a 50mm lens.
re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth
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So he’s playing his old songs tonight. I’m sure we’ll hear “ Lock Her Up” and “Mexico Will Pay For It” but also new hits like “Perfect Letter” and “ No Quid Pro Quo.” I wish he would find a better songwriting partner tho.
re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers and sisters;
For s/he to-day that votes with me
Shall be my brother/sister; be ye ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle your condition;
And Republicans in DC now a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Impeachment Day.
Then every Representative kill his prisoners.
Give the word through.
re: #383 HappyWarrior
So he’s playing his old songs tonight. I’m sure we’ll hear “ Lock Her Up” and “Mexico Will Pay For It” but also new hits like “Perfect Letter” and “ No Quid Pro Quo.” I wish he would find a better songwriting partner tho.
I’m sure Kid Rock will show up to whizz on Oprah!
Trump campaign email today:-
“I’m calling on my most FIERCE and LOYAL defenders to step up. There has never been a more critical time to show where you stand. Remember, this is WAR and America’s future depends on us winning.”
Did the President just declare WAR on citizens?— Impeach Now (@Impeach45Party) December 18, 2019
I watched the OAN Ukraine impeachment special so you don’t have to: https://t.co/z4ykA9BcXW
— Josh Kovensky (@JoshKovensky) December 18, 2019
re: #385 Joe Bacon 🌹
I’m sure Kid Rock will show up to whizz on Oprah!
Ted Nugent will be pooping himself with Trump.
There’s something just weirdly “welcome to the Duma in our autocracy” about the way Republicans are, in succession, loudly and hysterically performing for Donald Trump. #ImpeachmentDay #TrumpImpeachment
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) December 18, 2019
re: #387 Dread Pirate
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That Rudy went on OAN is a good way you know they’re not winning. That even FNC found this a bridge too far is telling.
re: #389 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
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Party members used to perform for Stalin and Lenin too. I guess this is Bannon‘s Leninism in action.
Apparently Billy Long took the cash out of his pocket before his 30 seconds in the sun. Guess he decided it wasn’t a good look.
Krishnamoorthi: “But rather than giving them a chance to speak, POTUS has silenced them. Witnesses from Defense, State, the WH. He even silenced the loquacious Mick Mulvaney.”
By blocking this testimony, he’s not proving his innocence, he adds..— Brandi Buchman (@BBuchman_CNS) December 18, 2019
re: #369 BeachDem
Maxine gets applause. Collins is pissed.
Rep. Maxine Waters: “It is no secret that this President could have been impeached a long time ago…In the final analysis, justice will have been served in America, and Donald Trump will have been impeached.” pic.twitter.com/WcqZH525PQ
— Keith Boykin (@keithboykin) December 18, 2019
re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Now the Rs are using their 30 seconds to read Hallmark cards and talk about the sun coming up tomorrow (no, I promise I won’t sing…)
I’ve been in the truck crawling across Houston in traffic for an hour, listening to Republicans lie, lie, lie, lie. Tiresome projection. Deeply unserious.
re: #397 BeachDem
Now the Rs are using their 30 seconds to read Hallmark cards and talk about the sun coming up tomorrow (no, I promise I won’t sing…)
I really think the GOP has completely lost the narrative on this. There’s a reason why impeachment is supported at historical levels.
re: #383 HappyWarrior
So he’s playing his old songs tonight. I’m sure we’ll hear “ Lock Her Up” and “Mexico Will Pay For It” but also new hits like “Perfect Letter” and “ No Quid Pro Quo.” I wish he would find a better songwriting partner tho.
And with the poster a big dose of “Look at all the Empty Space that voted for ME!”
re: #390 HappyWarrior
That Rudy went on OAN is a good way you know they’re not winning. That even FNC found this a bridge too far is telling.
That TPM piece is worth a read: basically, Rudy G blathering BS about the “corrupt” Bidens, while relying on a supporting cast of shady Ukrainians (all of whom, the writer notes, have some sort of grudge against US anti-corruption efforts; including one dude who can’t even go home because of indictments) to “bolster” his CT case.
Yeah, Rudy, your Big Reveal is very convincing….
re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth
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How many diapers did Michael Tracey go thru while Maxine was slapping Trump’s ass on live TV?
Now for a little “more in sadness than anger” theatrics.
re: #403 Jay C
That TPM piece is worth a read: basically, Rudy G blathering BS about the “corrupt” Bidens, while relying on a supporting cast of shady Ukrainians (all of whom, the writer notes, have some sort of grudge against US anti-corruption efforts; including one dude who can’t even go home because of indictments) to “bolster” his CT case.
Yeah, Rudy, your Big Reveal is very convincing….
Rudy and Trump are actually hurting anti corruption efforts. That’s the most infuriating thing. And it benefits Putin friendly people.
re: #406 HappyWarrior
Rudy and Trump are actually hurting anti corruption efforts. That’s the most infuriating thing. And it benefits Putin friendly people.
Just waiting for someone to expose Rudy as a THRUSH agent!
I am a dentist, Gosar now up—he’s rambling about all kinds of shit that has nothing to do with the subject at hand (and my body-language knowledge tells me he’s full o’shit)
Republicans are going to write down the names of everyone who votes for impeachment.
re: #409 jaunte
Republicans are going to write down the names of everyone who votes for impeachment.
Um… doesn’t the House clerk record that anyway? And make it available on the House’s website?
re: #398 jaunte
I’ve been in the truck crawling across Houston in traffic for an hour, listening to Republicans lie, lie, lie, lie. Tiresome projection. Deeply unserious.
re: #410 KGxvi
Yes. They have no defense so they keep making threats.
Adam putting it all in perspective—calling the Repugs out for whining as opposed to saying anything constructive. I yield all my time to Adam Schiff!
Yup. A bunch of hateful dishonest jackals who would sell out their own grandmothers for an extra dollar. A horde of racist shitheads who want to turn our society into Nazi Germany. https://t.co/1QWAlA8bDy
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) December 18, 2019
re: #409 jaunte
Republicans are going to write down the names of everyone who votes for impeachment.
OMG!
Yeah! That’ll show ‘em!!
They can’t get away with voting for impeachment and not expect a…..
Whassat? House votes are public record, anyway??
Never mind: they STILL won’t get away with it!
re: #127 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)
“hunter biden doesnt get a pass because his dad was vice president”
well trump doesnt get a pass because he is president
Hunter Biden did nothing wrong. He’s not on trial. I’m tired of hearing his name being thrown around just because Trump is a crook.
There’s something just weirdly “welcome to the Duma in our autocracy” about the way Republicans are, in succession, loudly and hysterically performing for Donald Trump. #ImpeachmentDay #TrumpImpeachment
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) December 18, 2019
This is the legacy of the Tea Party Movement. An ignorant movement that brought to power and influence a bunch of people don’t actually understand the Constitution.
re: #409 jaunte
Republicans are going to write down the names of everyone who votes for impeachment.
It’s a hit list for their ammosexual constituents itching for CWII.
re: #408 BeachDem
I am a dentist, Gosar now up—he’s rambling about all kinds of shit that has nothing to do with the subject at hand (and my body-language knowledge tells me he’s full o’shit)
There is something wrong with that man, body language like!
“Liberal elitist agenda” everybody drink!
— Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) December 18, 2019
re: #416 Patricia Kayden
Hunter Biden did nothing wrong. He’s not on trial. I’m tired of hearing his name being thrown around just because Trump is a crook.
Hunter had the appearance of a conflict of interest. Meanwhile Trump has his son in law in charge of the Israel-Palestine peace process.
The president’s Chief of Staff confirmed the president’s election-manipulation scheme on live television.
Let’s stop playing games with the facts and move along to the real question facing the GOP: will you hold him accountable or not? #DefendOurDemocracy https://t.co/eY2JsZNUAf— Rep. Val Demings (@RepValDemings) December 18, 2019
Now they’re recycling—Kelly Armstrong already ran his ignorant mouth once, now we have to hear from him again?
If there is a more accurate caricature of today’s Republican Party in one image I’m not sure what it is. pic.twitter.com/EN5UJXw7P3
— Jeremy (@DSky3) December 18, 2019
Hey Lee, guess who works in the White House? The presidents daughter, who used to make plastic shoes.
— Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) December 18, 2019
Hey Mark, who did you think the Russians are paying??
Ah, time for the “big guns”—Meadows gets THREE minutes. Mute button. (reading their words on closed-caption is painful enough.)
Imagine if, in 1998, Bill Clinton had come out on national TV and said, “I didn’t do anything wrong! It was a perfect blowjob!”.
Dance, Markie Mark, dance for the orange thing in the white house.
Me: A lot of these guys making bullshit arguments are from the south, it seems to me.
Lee Zeldin: I’m from New York and I’m here to tell you to hold my beer— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) December 18, 2019
After Lee Zeldin ended his speech by calling the impeachment a “Schiff show,” Chairman Schiff chuckled and kept going with the procedure.
— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) December 18, 2019
The TRUMP administration is opposing a provision in a Russia sanctions bill requiring the administration to certify the Kremlin is not meddling in U.S. elections.
The provision is “designed for failure,” per a @StateDept letter obtained by @woodruffbets. https://t.co/afgEvAwkkr— Kenneth P. Vogel (@kenvogel) December 18, 2019
re: #432 Blind Frog Belly White
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re: #435 HappyWarrior
It’s a Republican thing not a Southern thing. The really dumb ones are Southern because there’s more Southern GOP reps than they are the other regions.
The Republican death-cult is a check your brain at the door experience.
I’m just saying. The Democrat on the left is a triathlete. The Republican on the right is a triple-chinned heart attack waiting to happen. pic.twitter.com/3A43hhJID7
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) December 18, 2019
Ratcliffe is really an annoying twit—I find him among the 10 most loathsome. (and it’s quite a battle at the top of the list)
Happy—Jennifer’s up—she just entered her remarks, as most of them are now doing.
I wonder, after Schiff’s remarks, if any Republicans will further clown themselves by trying to defend Trump as ethical.
re: #411 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
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re: #439 BeachDem
Ratcliffe is really an annoying twit—I find him among the 10 most loathsome. (and it’s quite a battle at the top of the list)
I can’t even imagine trying to top-10 Republicans. They are all such shit.
Every Republican elected official at the Federal level is entirely corrupt and mostly to entirely a traitor. Republicans differ from each other only in the details of their mental and moral deficiencies. That’s just as true of GOP voters as it is of the ropy pig-turds they put into office.
re: #440 BeachDem
Happy—Jennifer’s up—she just entered her remarks, as most of them are now doing.
Thanks
And as Gym (in a jacket!) screams on, here’s a pic of the happy camper getting ready to head for Michigan.
The president, just before he heads to Michigan for tonight’s rally. Photo by @dougmillsnyt pic.twitter.com/MGG1L4FzNv
— Robert Costa (@costareports) December 18, 2019
re: #442 Alephnaught
I have to say, about that Thompson Twins video: It’s clearly their best video in technical terms, but I can’t get beyond those Oriental and Arabic stereotypes, both musically, and particularly visually…
Indicative of the time they were made. You could still do that stuff in the mid-80s and not get a lot of push-back about it, or at least effective push-back that could easily blossom into something threatening income and contracts.
I noted it as well when I reviewed it before posting the link.
morons, all of them
THANK YOU! #KAG https://t.co/CltmJQdm1t
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 18, 2019
re: #448 Backwoods_Sleuth
morons, all of them
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Thank you risking catching cold to see me insult your intelligence!
Jesus was crucified to save an undeserving humanity from sin; Trump was elected to save people who own Truck Nutz from feeling bad about using the n-word in public. https://t.co/AXSFTXXlZ8
— TwoArticleHat (@Popehat) December 18, 2019
re: #449 retired cynic
Devin
Devin will not stop talking about those nudes. Ever.
— Schooley (@Rschooley) December 18, 2019
re: #452 Blind Frog Belly White
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Seinfeld voice: “Nunes!” https://t.co/J67PKBLEIP
— Laffy (@GottaLaff) December 18, 2019
Devin Nunes, who subpoenaed me, is currently shitting publicly live on TV screaming about naked Trump pictures and begging everyone to stop following and retweeting his Dem challenger @PhilArballo2020
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) December 18, 2019
The more I look at Chunk’s stuff, the more impressed I get.
if someone could get him to retweet one of these I would be grateful af.I would try, but I’m still #BlockedByTrump.be sure to compliment his judge nominations and how he makes you cry lots of happy tears pic.twitter.com/LrnS4FNZ0W
— ᑕᕼᑌᑎK (@chunkled) December 18, 2019
I just have this funny feeling Devin has *seen* nude pictures of Donald Trump.
Don’t ask me why.
There’s something about the way he says it.— Elizabeth C. McLaughlin (@ECMcLaughlin) December 18, 2019
re: #416 Patricia Kayden
Hunter Biden did nothing wrong. He’s not on trial. I’m tired of hearing his name being thrown around just because Trump is a crook.
you are right of course
the quote was one of the R’s bloviating
the second line was me
Jim Jordan uncorks a crazy conspiracy theory about Adam Schiff being the puppetmaster behind impeachment, and then claims that Trump is the will of the American people, even though Hillary Clinton got more votes. #impeachmentday pic.twitter.com/jr4qy0mmNk
— PoliticusUSA (@politicususa) December 18, 2019
The GOP bringing their heavy hitters now ..
Sniff .. Nunes, the guy under federal investigatory scrutiny now for his involvement with Parnas.— King Edward of Belugas👑🐋 (@KingEdOfBelugas) December 18, 2019
re: #460 Backwoods_Sleuth
My guess is that Trump gave him the old LBJ treatment and called him into the residence while on the toilet.
re: #422 HappyWarrior
Hunter had the appearance of a conflict of interest. Meanwhile Trump has his son in law in charge of the Israel-Palestine peace process.
protecting and defending the interests of amurika!! dontcha see?
re: #467 Blind Frog Belly White
I see hollow people!
Fuck the GOP.
Vet vs. sheep: a dance-off… pic.twitter.com/bDKVJE9d1q
— Dick King-Smith HQ (@DickKingSmith) December 17, 2019
Probable approval of the day. pic.twitter.com/MpRbDF2uBp
— Dick King-Smith HQ (@DickKingSmith) December 18, 2019
re: #463 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #463 Backwoods_Sleuth
The will of the people who count. You know, REAL Americans.
Hillary Clinton was the will of Those People.
GOP argument that abuse of power is not impeachable because it is not a crime is so obviously wrong that I can only conclude that members are deliberately trying to mislead the public. Call the question!
— Barb McQuade (@BarbMcQuade) December 18, 2019
Yes, ALL of them are knowing fucking liars.
re: #472 Blind Frog Belly White
The will of the people who count. You know, REAL Americans.
Hillary Clinton was the will of Those People.
They treat Americans who live in diverse areas like we’re not real Americans.
Well, this Drew Ferguson (whoever he is) is a bit of an asshole.
re: #475 HappyWarrior
They treat Americans who live in diverse areas like we’re not real Americans.
Only Republican rule is legitimate, therefore any vote for anyone not a Republican is illegitimate.
One person claps for Devin Nunes… pic.twitter.com/r1Iwdixhqe
— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) December 18, 2019
And the grift continues…
‘Trump Hotel room prices spiked 13x last weekend. We finally know why.’
The Trump Victory Committee’s winter retreat at Trump’s Hotel - the cheapest room was $6,719 (normally $500 a night.)
Putting money right in Trump’s pocket. 😑https://t.co/3jcCcFHP2W— RynheartTheReluctant (@TheRynheart) December 18, 2019
Jeez—another 30 minutes of this crap before they get to the vote? I am exhausted. (the only day I wish I had more work to do and duh…)
re: #475 HappyWarrior
They treat Americans who live in diverse areas like we’re not real Americans.
They’re going to become a regional party. And their only means of holding power will be the Senate (where Wyoming gets two Senators despite have a population that would make the entire state the 15th largest county in California).
And if you are not following Crouton and Luscious and Ruby Roo and Big and the Geeses and the………………….
Start now.
So happy everyone is getting their calendars!!! It is scary putting your trust in a company you don’t know. Glad they came out well and they shipped. YAY! https://t.co/WDclWcUn5T
— M_Crouton (@m_crouton) December 18, 2019
re: #409 jaunte
Republicans are going to write down the names of everyone who votes for impeachment.
I fully expect that Donald Trump will demand that everyone who votes for impeachment be arrested for treason at tonight’s rally.
Just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse—Liz Cheney gets 4 minutes—MUTE.
re: #480 Teddy’s Person
And the grift continues…
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re: #484 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos
I fully expect that Donald Trump will demand that everyone who votes for impeachment be arrested for treason at tonight’s rally.
His reaction is going to prove why it’s necessary.
Anti-Trump protesters gathering at Division and Michigan in Battle Creek. @bcenquirer @LSJNews pic.twitter.com/MgpQ56VwCN
— Nick King (@nickkingphoto) December 18, 2019
Anti-Trump protesters marching to Friendship Park in Battle Creek. @bcenquirer @LSJNews pic.twitter.com/pwFx2zMXUS
— Nick King (@nickkingphoto) December 18, 2019
re: #482 KGxvi
They’re going to become a regional party. And their only means of holding power will be the Senate (where Wyoming gets two Senators despite have a population that would make the entire state the 15th largest county in California).
Yep. Keep on treating urbanites and diverse communities with contempt guys. It’s a great look!://
Ladies and Gentlemen, our next-next President, Val Demings.
re: #486 HappyWarrior
None dared call it a mafia inspired racket.
I wish violating the emoluments clause would have been included in the articles of impeachment.
#NowPlaying NOFX > The Longest EP > You’re Wrong https://t.co/5UaKj5YTWb
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) December 19, 2019
re: #491 Barefoot Grin
She’s so impressive. What a contrast with the opposition.
Heh.
Liz Cheney loves to shoot her mouth off. Her dad, he loved to shoot his friends’ mouth off.
— Jeremy Newberger (@jeremynewberger) December 19, 2019
JFC
To reporters asking if @DHS_Wolf is watching the Schiff sham…. No. The Secretary is far too busy securing our country by air, land, sea and cyberspace to be distracted by the impeachment circus in House.
— DHS Press Secretary (@SpoxDHS) December 18, 2019
re: #496 Teddy’s Person
or maybe his cow?
NYT: “What some described as a ‘boo’ others described as a ‘moo’.”
re: #491 Barefoot Grin
Ladies and Gentlemen, our next-next President, Val Demings.
Demings notes how she served 12 years on a hostage negotiation team. “I used to enforce the law and now I write the law. But the laws mean nothing if you destroy evidence… and blanketly refuse to cooperate.”
When she concluded, light applause in the chamber from Dems— Brandi Buchman (@BBuchman_CNS) December 19, 2019
Tell Dick Cheney’s daughter that the calls are coming from inside the gene pool. https://t.co/fgWSV9xhNQ
— Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) December 19, 2019
— JΞSŦΞR ✪ ΔCŦUΔL³³º¹ (@th3j35t3r) December 18, 2019
Susan Davis, short and sweet—we are not impeaching the president; the president is impeaching himself…end of story.
He said this on a radio station in *Denver* of all places, a metro area that suffered through both Columbine and the Aurora theater shooting. https://t.co/9Cb4Y49gEY
— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) December 19, 2019
re: #447 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
Indicative of the time they were made. You could still do that stuff in the mid-80s and not get a lot of push-back about it, or at least effective push-back that could easily blossom into something threatening income and contracts.
I noted it as well when I reviewed it before posting the link.
It’s definitely indicative of the time. In the UK, a lot of satirical TV shows that imagined themselves to be both left-of-centre and “edgy” (eg BBC2’s “Not the Nine O’Clock News” and Channel 4’s “Who Dares Wins”) still did “comedy Arab” stereotypes in their sketches. And the Thompson Twins started out as a genuine anarcho-Communist collective, and then went Pop in an ‘entryist’ sense. (As did Scritti Politti and ABC.) And this was an early result of their experiment. Well…
The irony is that a couple of years later, the Thompson Twins did this (semi) title track for their best selling album “Into the Gap”, and, although it’s a bit- okay, a fair bit- okay, almost totally- ham-fisted in it’s musical and lyrical articulation of a theme, it actually appears to be sincere in wanting to reconcile traditions.
Schiff on the GOP: “What they can’t say is that this president’s conduct was ethical. What they can’t say was that this president’s conduct was legal. What they can’t say was that this president’s conduct was constitutional … All they can say is, ‘we don’t like the process’.” pic.twitter.com/RmtvftXwQ6
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) December 19, 2019
re: #503 BeachDem
Susan Davis, short and sweet—we are not impeaching the president; the president is impeaching himself…end of story.
I loved her!
re: #501 jaunte
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I just wonder if any of the GOPers actually have an iota of second thoughts about how they are doing all this damage to the credibility of the US governmental systems. And that’s it’s damage that will take decades to even start recovering from.
re: #503 BeachDem
Susan Davis, short and sweet—we are not impeaching the president; the president is impeaching himself…end of story.
She needed a mic to drop.
These are all facts that would be true of any president who was impeached and hadn’t been convicted yet https://t.co/1bNbSerBW2
— ric flair drippini (@jesseltaylor) December 19, 2019
re: #508 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
I think they’re all in on the idea that nothing matters past the end of their own lives.
I’m watching Steve Scalise on mute, and he’s waving around a piece of paper like a regular old Joe McCarthy.
re: #510 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Scalise now screaming and ripping up papers—yeah, that’ll show ‘em. What a doofus.
re: #510 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Kevin’s little rant, while better in the original German, left off a “Hail Trump” at the end.
Pelosi moving around the House floor, just greeted Demings as she finished her remarks. She made her way to another section, where she conferred with aides and she’s now huddling with Schiff and looking at some papers with him.
— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) December 19, 2019
Oh please—the “forgotten men and women” who voted for the yam. How can we fucking forget them when they won’t shut up for a single second.
re: #504 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Puts the ‘Anus’ in KNUS, I suppose?
Rep Steve Scalise says Ds “hate all 63 million people” who did not vote for Trump, This prompts loud booing from Ds for several seconds and then GOP members call out “Order! Order!” asking for Rep DeGette (who has presided all day) to call the chamber to order.
— Brandi Buchman (@BBuchman_CNS) December 19, 2019
Fun watching all these white men on TV screaming and doing their best to impress Trump when they all go and tell big corporations and reporters privately they think Trump is a deranged nut but don’t want to lose their seat in 2020 because of him. Worked well for Matt Bevin.
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) December 19, 2019
Trump is holding a campaign rally in Battle Creek, Michigan. Quotes and fact checks in this thread.
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) December 18, 2019
re: #504 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Fuck you assholes forever. “Joking” about school shootings on the radio in the Denver metro area. You people are scum, I wouldn’t piss on y’all if you were on fire.
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) December 19, 2019
Can’t believe Scalise is still trying to sell Trump as a friend to the common man.
re: #523 jaunte
Can’t believe Scalise is still trying to sell Trump as a friend to the common man.
Not just common, but also forgotten!
Donald Trump should have been impeached the day he decided not to divest from his businesses.
He has been shredding the Constitution since day one. Only the blind partisanship of the GOP and Fox News delayed the inevitable this long.#ImpeachmentDay— Nunca Trump (@NeverTrumpTexan) December 19, 2019
re: #523 jaunte
Can’t believe Scalise is still trying to sell Trump as a friend to the common man.
Homer Stokes: “Homer Stokes is the friend of the little man!”
re: #525 jaunte
The Undiscovered Diner!
Scalise will soon lead a safari expedition deep into the unexplored interior of the United States to discover the lost tribes of Cletus in their hidden food huts.
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Kudos to whoever mentioned Questionable Content the other day with a link. I’ve been binge-reading it over the past few days and have found it fairly witty and amusing so far.
Scalise said he was “David Duke without the baggage,” but I think he meant “without the volume control.” https://t.co/T3SPLK91d3
— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) December 19, 2019
Rep Val Demmings is amazing…..#ImpeachAndRemove #ImpeachTrump pic.twitter.com/kXNsmw4K8W
— WeThePeople🇺🇸🇺🇸 (@PrincessBravato) December 19, 2019
re: #508 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
I just wonder if any of the GOPers actually have an iota of second thoughts about how they are doing all this damage to the credibility of the US governmental systems. And that’s it’s damage that will take decades to even start recovering from.
They don’t care. They —- every last one of them —- have no remaining loyalty to our nation. Don’t assume that they know the truth and are doing this solely because of fear or desire to hold power. Most are captive of alternative facts: they believe everything they are saying; recall that many (almost all?) support the Confederate flag, even though its origins are widely known. This is the behavior of members of extremist organizations who are totally brainwashed and march in lockstep with their leader. There are some exceptions: McConnell is just evil and not a Trump acolyte — but the rest? they have joined the Trump mob.
re: #530 Blind Frog Belly White
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Once again, Kevin Kruse comes through with the goods. That made me laugh out loud.
with a straight face he says this…
.@RepDevinNunes (@DevinNunes): “The only thing President Trump is guilty of is beating Hillary Clinton. The Democrats refuse to accept that loss… The Democrats need a long period of rehabilitation.”
Full video: https://t.co/8RMQxkzEFx pic.twitter.com/zyHOt8Hevg— CSPAN (@cspan) December 19, 2019
Yes, we’re kind.
Yes, we’re polite.
Yes, we’re apologetic.
Until we’re not. 🇨🇦pic.twitter.com/PLyHOxp4Eg— Canadian Forces in 🇺🇸 (@CAFinUS) December 18, 2019
Do you underestimate our toques, Jane?
Don’t underestimate the toques, Jane.#toques— Canadian Forces in 🇺🇸 (@CAFinUS) December 18, 2019
Impeachment is reserved for moments of grave danger, when the constitutional order becomes dangerously out of balance.
Moments like this one.
And that is why I will cast my vote to impeach President Donald J. Trump. pic.twitter.com/h25mLqFzJl— Rep. Richard Neal (@RepRichardNeal) December 19, 2019
How many different ways can you pretend like flipping the house wasn’t the voice of the majority that didn’t vote for Trump.
— Schooley (@Rschooley) December 19, 2019
I bet a Trump three-expletive parlay at his Michigan cross burning tonight with my bookie just now. I got “fuck,” “bullshit,” and “motherfucker(s).”
Good lord, this is going to make his jacked CPAC rally look like his somnambulant UN address. https://t.co/1xI3QH3pCe
— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) December 19, 2019
Has Tulsi put in an appearance today? I haven’t seen her, but could have missed her when I went to puke once or twice.
Thread/story about a letter from another raging narcissist. Amazing parallels.
Short story: I “dated” a man who had been my college professor starting at 19. He came on to me when I was a student in his class.
He was 17 years older than me and an abusive narcissist. I was a child sex abuse survivor trying to come to terms with trauma, and a mess.— Elizabeth C. McLaughlin (@ECMcLaughlin) December 18, 2019
re: #540 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Christmas tree with a red MAGA hat atop it is on stage.
LOL
Republicans just stood in a solemn moment of silence to honor the 63 million Americans who voted for Trump.
— Arthur Delaney (@ArthurDelaneyHP) December 18, 2019
Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md.: “Never in all my years of serving did I ever expect to encounter such an obvious wrongdoing by the President of the United States.”
A GOP member voices a deep, “boo.”— Brandi Buchman (@BBuchman_CNS) December 19, 2019
Hoyer says much is said of the 63 million people who voted for Trump, but looking directly to the GOP, he says: “But little is said about the 65 million people who voted for Hillary Clinton.”
— Brandi Buchman (@BBuchman_CNS) December 19, 2019
Hoyer: “The witnesses who had personal knowledge did not come, either at POTUS request or at the committees.’
Perhaps the testimony would have exonerated him, Hoyer says of Trump.
This patent refusal, Hoyer underlines, “is unprecedented.”— Brandi Buchman (@BBuchman_CNS) December 19, 2019
“We did not want it but President Trump’s misconduct has forced the constitutional republic to protect itself,” Steny Hoyer says.
Applause from several Dems in the chamber, including, as I observed, Rep Raskin, Rep Deutch.— Brandi Buchman (@BBuchman_CNS) December 19, 2019
Steny Hoyer reminding Republicans of foundational virtues, now derided as “virtue signaling.”
I just heard Devin Nunes speak. He’s definitely not a Democrat. https://t.co/ogrfDql2Am
— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) December 19, 2019
He is a top hat away from being a character in a Gilded Age cartoon about robber barons. https://t.co/nFRbaDkgap
— Zeddy (@Zeddary) December 19, 2019
re: #545 Backwoods_Sleuth
I emailed his office to let him know that he made his constituents proud with that stirring speech.
Holy shit, they have an auctioneer speaking in the House now?
Hailing Rep. Amash, who left GOP after becoming first Republican to back impeachment, Rep. Hoyer says, “We need not ask who will be the first to show courage by standing up to Pres. Trump. The question we must now ask is, who will be the last to find it?” https://t.co/ZoBoRVHMA6 pic.twitter.com/nZousZRySp
— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) December 19, 2019
but wait! now we have … Demosthenes? Pericles? no … Doug Collins , blowhard, bluster and balderdash
— Simon Schama (@simon_schama) December 19, 2019
Z: I’d like more missiles
T: Then I’d like you to us a “favor.”
Yet they keep saying—yelling!—there is “no conditionality.”#ImpeachmentDay— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) December 19, 2019
Fuck me—the scumbags are giving Collins a standing O (well, except for the blond lady behind him who can’t decide whether to stand up or not.)
Oh, now Kevin McCarthy will play the role of “everyman.”
I’d like to remind everyone that McCarthy is the MINORITY LEADER, not the Republican leader as he insists.
“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump.” That was @GOPLeader on June 15, 2016. He added, “Swear to God.”https://t.co/MFVNubCIeY
— Evan Hurst (@EvanHurst) December 19, 2019
Kevin McCarthy, speaking now, was paid off by indicted Giuliani goon Lev Parnas, who was paid by Dmitry Firtash, a mobbed up oligarch tied to the Kremlin https://t.co/GvtNNAYOmo
— Sarah Kendzior (@sarahkendzior) December 19, 2019
meanwhile in Battle Creek
Pence boasts, as Trump has, “apprehensions on our southern border are down by 70%.” They are only down that much from *the Trump-era peak in May*. They’ve been higher under Trump than they were in the late Obama era. pic.twitter.com/5A9khBXs8L
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) December 19, 2019
re: #559 jaunte
Evan Hurst
@EvanHurst
“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump.” That was @GOPLeader on June 15, 2016. He added, “Swear to God.”washingtonpost.com …
Obviously Putin has expanded his payroll to include the rest of the Republican Party, but they probably are cheap compared to the costs for Trump, especially when you look at Pamela Bondi, who only required a $25,000 check from the Trump charity for her to sell out her state in its lawsuit against Trump University.
Pence regularly just starts saying false claims Trump has made up. Trump himself hasn’t even used this one in a while. https://t.co/16OkfYpaq1
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) December 19, 2019
re: #467 Blind Frog Belly White
I noticed something, in a story about how the WH delivered - in the same package - a copy of yesterday’s
cry for helpletter to Nancy Pelosi and two Christmas cards.Look at their signatures….
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She uses the same “seismograph trace” stuff he does.
There is absolutely no way to wrestle the words “Melania Trump” out of that nonsense.
The 5th Circuit’s cowardly decision, which likely delays a Supreme Court decision until after 2020, is obviously an attempt to shield Republicans from the massive blowback they would receive if the highest court in the land were to strike down the ACA before the upcoming election https://t.co/W4Qkoz0DF7
— Chuck Schumer (@SenSchumer) December 19, 2019
re: #566 BeachDem
I’ve held off as long as I could, but it’s wine time
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Hey, it’s 5:00. Go nuts!
Adam Schiff: “We *used* to stand up to Putin and Russia. I know the party of Ronald Reagan used to.”
How very awkward to be a Republican right now.— Kaili Joy Gray (@KailiJoy) December 19, 2019
Main event is coming up.
Calling Michael Buffer…
Adam Schiff is speaking truth and Gospel. Can America hear it?
jfc
My stupid redneck congresscritter, who is also a poor reader (sense a pattern?).
You’re aiding and abetting a degenerate criminal. 81637
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) December 19, 2019
First article of impeachment is up for vote now.
I just came home from Canada! Do I need to turn around and go back?
If I wanted to hear morally bankrupt cowards deny reality and praise the dear leader in identical talking points I’d have stayed in Russia. The GOP has sealed its fate as the party of Trump and Trumpism, and nothing else.
— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) December 19, 2019
it’s good to look at this straight on and remember that fascism will always have popular appeal. they’re not naive, deluded or “just too poor to understand things” as some journos think. they see hate and absolute rule and like it. https://t.co/S0gGPgTuQ3
— Talia Lavin (@chick_in_kiev) December 18, 2019
re: #576 jaunte
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re: #580 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
It’s likely that douche from NJ
That’s my guess. Or Peterson from Minnesota.
re: #580 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
It’s likely that douche from NJ
Sigh—I guess he’s still technically a Dem.
re: #580 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
It’s likely that douche from NJ
re: #581 HappyWarrior
That’s my guess. Or Peterson from Minnesota.
re: #582 BeachDem
Sigh—I guess he’s still technically a Dem.
Van Drew, a Democrat switching parties, has voted no on article one, as expected. Kind, a moderate Dem who did not say how he would vote, has voted yes. Another, Golden voted yes but plans to vote no on the second article. Gabbard has not voted, and I don’t think she’s here.
— Addy Baird (@addysbaird) December 19, 2019
210…211…212…213…214…215…aaaannnnnd—217 IMPEACHED!
re: #523 jaunte
Can’t believe Scalise is still trying to sell Trump as a friend to the common man.
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