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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:32:25am

Was there ever any doubt?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:32:31am

I hope President Warren turns the tables on Republicans and unleashes her full fury on those traitors using the very powers Trump has been given today.

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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:32:45am

Ha. Every day is a day the GOP betrays the United States.

Today’s acts of GOP treachery will just be more blatant than usual.

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Teukka  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:32:56am

… aaand Sweden has it’s first 2019-nCoV case. 20 year old female. :(
sverigesradio.se

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:33:53am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:33:54am

I will shed no tears if coronavirus takes out a bunch of Republican Senators and Congressmen.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:34:26am

re: #5 jaunte

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The other whistleblower case.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:35:18am

re: #5 jaunte

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Another whistleblower that the Republicans will declare is fair game to destroy.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:35:30am
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:36:28am

re: #9 jaunte

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Hell, cipolloni must testify

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:36:43am

re: #8 Joe Bacon 🌹

Another whistleblower that the Republicans will declare is fair game to destroy.

Someone needs to leak who is paying Rand Paul to parrot the Kremlin.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:37:17am

re: #10 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

Hell, cipolloni must testify

Not gonna happen. Republicans have made it clear that they are above the law and Jay-Zuss will bless any action they do!

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:38:24am

Betraying the US today?

Why should this day be any different from any other day?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:39:29am
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jaunte  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:39:34am
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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:40:24am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:40:46am

I just hold out hope someone just decides that Donald Trump isn’t fucking worth it.

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Teukka  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:41:48am

re: #4 Teukka

… aaand Sweden has it’s first 2019-nCoV case. 20 year old female. :(
sverigesradio.se

Update:

According to GT (GĂśteborgstidningen, Gothenburg Tabloid), the female voluntarily isolated herself (asked friends to leave food outside her door etc.) and took contact with county health care when she got symptoms upon returning from Wuhan.

Sauce: expressen.se

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:41:59am

re: #17 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I just hold out hope someone just decides that Donald Trump isn’t fucking worth it.

Nope. The die is cast.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:42:02am

re: #16 Charles Johnson

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This umpire has a Derek Jeter tattoo in today’s Red Sox-Yankees game. That’s been Roberts since he became CJ. I really get annoyed at how self righteous he acts about the role of the judiciary.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:42:24am

re: #19 Joe Bacon 🌹

Nope. The die is cast.

Yeah I’m not optimistic either.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:42:41am
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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:43:10am
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:44:25am

re: #12 Joe Bacon 🌹

Not gonna happen. Republicans have made it clear that they are above the law and Jay-Zuss will bless any action they do!

Ohmi know but he’s a first hand witness to the conspiracy..actually a part of it

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:46:21am

re: #23 Charles Johnson

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Republicans have gotten away with this for a long time. It’s a relic of McCarthyism that we’ve all seen throughout the last 65 years.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:47:29am
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lawhawk  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:48:29am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:48:50am

re: #26 jaunte

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It really is something out of Putin’s orbit and Garry was witness to that.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:49:52am

re: #17 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I just hold out hope someone just decides that Donald Trump isn’t fucking worth it.

Since the group that are the current representatives of the Republican Party aren’t budging an inch from supporting Trump, even after his lieutenants’ bragging about their breaking multiple laws and Trump himself all but declaring himself dictator, the only bridge that they haven’t crossed yet is the purge of opposition via arrest (or worse). Even that is already in various stages of being begun already.

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lawhawk  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:51:39am

Every last GOPer was in the loop and knew Trump was engaging in criminal wrongdoing. His own lawyers knew, and they’re the ones out there lying on behalf of Trump.

State bar officials should take notice of every last GOPer who is going for this nonsense that they should consider disbarring every last GOP lawyer over failing as officers of the court and upholding their oaths and obligations.

This includes in no particular order: Dershowitz, Cippilone, and Bondi. And the GOP Senators who are backing this crap.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:53:46am
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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:54:31am

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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They’re being open now that they know that there’s no chance that this farce will go beyond today.

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lawhawk  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:55:05am

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Trump has openly flouted that he broke the law and no one was going to stop him. Mulvaney said get over it.

The entire defense argument was so what he did it, get over it. He’s above the law.

The GOP response has been a meh and yeah, we’ll allow it when it’s a GOPer.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:55:10am

re: #31 Charles Johnson

And the truth is 45% of the population will kiss Trump’s ass no matter what because he kicks colored people and gays down. That is what the MAGATS live for!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2020 • 10:59:05am

re: #34 Joe Bacon 🌹

And the truth is 45% of the population will kiss Trump’s ass no matter what because he kicks colored people and gays down. That is what the MAGATS live for!

We really are split into two Americas these days.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:00:13am

re: #35 Eclectic Cyborg

We really are split into two Americas these days.

Yep. Until they lose at the polls a bunch of times and are forced to deal with the fact that they don’t have their traditional power any more.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:03:03am

re: #36 Belafon

Yep. Until they lose at the polls a bunch of times and are forced to deal with the fact that they don’t have their traditional power any more.

Republicans have nothing to fear about losing elections. Putin will see that the machines are hacked while the GOP purges Democrats from the rolls.

My mood right now…I’m ready to sign the initiative to put California secession on the ballot.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:06:31am

re: #1 Targetpractice

No.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:08:29am

This is how the EU Parliament responded to the final vote dealing with BRexit:

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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:08:34am

No witnesses and Republicans behaving like absolute shitbirds in the impeachment trial was always exactly what to expect, down to the exact votes McConnell lets stray, who gets their moments of pretended moderation in the press, and the disgusting protection of the GOP’s main judicial fixer, CJ Roberts.

But IMO the House managers have done an outstanding job of making things clear in the only way that civilized people really can fight back — as fodder for this years election.

So I don’t see any reason for doom and gloom today. Republicans are shit, and they will just confirm that once again today.

What I do hope for is that Senate Democrats will have full discipline on the critical votes — witnesses and removal from office. Even one Democrat breaking ranks there would be a real problem.

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makeitstop  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:10:39am

re: #39 Eric The Fruit Bat

This is how the EU Parliament responded to the final vote dealing with BRexit:

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A better song choice would have been ‘Nearer My God To Thee,’ like on the Titanic.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:12:31am

re: #40 EPR-radar

We now know that one of the witnesses is defending Trump. But we knew this was coming. We knew back when the House impeached Trump. I don’t either see why the actions we’re seeing change our satisfaction over impeachment in any way, or why people’s anger is suddenly turning into gloom since we knew this was going to happen.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:12:52am
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Belafon  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:12:52am

re: #41 makeitstop

A better song choice would have been ‘Nearer My God To Thee,’ like on the Titanic.

That’s the one the British should sing.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:13:50am

re: #39 Eric The Fruit Bat

This is how the EU Parliament responded to the final vote dealing with BRexit:

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They should sing
NA NA NA NA
NA NA NA NA
HEY HEY HEY
GOODBYE!!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:14:28am

re: #45 The Pie Overlord!

Hit the road, Jack.

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marcusgorillius  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:14:58am

There are no heroes or patriots in the Republican Party. None. Putting country first is a thing of the past. This is nothing but white America doing whatever they have to to keep power. If Trump gets away with this it will change the country forever. Who ever has the White House and on chamber will do whatever they want. No more rule of law. I never thought I would see this in America, that’s what made us different , Our government is no better than a banana republic. If by chance the Dems win the White House I hope whoever it is has a long memory and prosecutes everyone involved. This is nothing short of treason.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:15:14am

re: #46 Eclectic Cyborg

Hit the road, Jack.

50 Ways To Leave Your Lover

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b.d. (Is Rush Dead Yet?)  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:15:17am

Now would be a perfect time for John Bolton to hold an open, live press conference but he won’t because he’s John Bolton.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:20:02am

re: #49 b.d. (He’s Impeached)

Now would be a perfect time for John Bolton to hold an open, live press conference but he won’t because he’s John Bolton.

As of this point, the only thing Bolton having a press conference would do is possibly save Bolton from getting chased by the Trump admin.

I am just going to make sure the GOP goes down this fall.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:22:34am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:23:18am

re: #49 b.d. (He’s Impeached)

Now would be a perfect time for John Bolton to hold an open, live press conference but he won’t because he’s John Bolton.

He also won’t because it might hurt his book sales.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:24:45am

re: #52 Eclectic Cyborg

He also won’t because it might hurt his book sales.

If he doesn’t, Trump and Co may make his book unavailable to be released. He almost has to make it worthless to make it sell.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:26:09am

so apparently i’ve been talking to myself downstairs for a while…

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:27:49am

re: #53 Belafon

If he doesn’t, Trump and Co may make his book unavailable to be released. He almost has to make it worthless to make it sell.

he and the publishers really didnt think this through
when it first came out, i thought they had to plan for suppression and see it coming

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:27:51am

re: #54 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

so apparently i’ve been talking to myself downstairs for a while…

Were you arguing with yourself?

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:27:54am
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:28:33am

re: #56 Targetpractice

Were you arguing with yourself?

when i need good advice, that ‘s what i do

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marcusgorillius  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:28:54am

re: #47 marcusgorillius

The Democrats need to pound this everyday, from now till election day

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:28:55am

re: #49 b.d. (He’s Impeached)

Now would be a perfect time for John Bolton to hold an open, live press conference but he won’t because he’s John Bolton.

He has to adjust his glasses this afternoon.

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Citizen K  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:29:08am
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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:29:25am
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lawhawk  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:29:34am

re: #39 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Freedom Turnip  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:32:33am

Out: Kumbaya
In: Raining Blood

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:33:35am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:34:20am

re: #65 Charles Johnson

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It’s so sick.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:34:22am

re: #41 makeitstop

A better song choice would have been ‘Nearer My God To Thee,’ like on the Titanic.

Ah yes - the CNN Doomsday music..

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marcusgorillius  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:34:35am

re: #61 Citizen K

Chickenshit motherfucker

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:35:35am
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:36:12am

re: #61 Citizen K

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if you dont call it a lie you’re not telling them what’s going on

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:37:22am

Let’s not lose focus people. We all knew this was probably going to happen. Does it fucking suck? Yes, but we saw it coming. No sense in getting overly pissed off about it. Stay focused and channel your rage in to guaranteeing a strong turnout in November.

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sagehen  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:39:47am

re: #39 Eric The Fruit Bat

This is how the EU Parliament responded to the final vote dealing with BRexit:

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Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.

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Citizen K  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:42:06am

re: #70 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

if you dont call it a lie you’re not telling them what’s going on

Extremely good point. Not calling out the lie basically means you only get half the story. It’s journalistic malpractice.

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Freedom Turnip  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:42:44am

re: #71 Eclectic Cyborg

Truthfully, with the right strategy, the Dems are positioned to pick up more seats now than at any other point in my life.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:46:51am
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sagehen  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:50:27am

re: #70 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

if you dont call it a lie you’re not telling them what’s going on

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Dread Pirate  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:50:44am

It’s all about power.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:51:34am

putting all the philisophizing aside

i expect that when this is over, i’ll feel much like i did the morning after the 2016 election. because i went to sleep before the results were finalized.

at least this time i see it coming.

and i know what to do already
same as last time

keep on keeping on
get up every morning and run
listen to the birds, watch the sunrise
ride out the emotional see-saw

and focus on the next goddamn vote

after all, look what we did in 2018, without which there would be no investigation or impeachment at all

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:52:38am

re: #77 Dread Pirate

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It’s all about power.

“Compromise”? He keeps using that word. I do not think he knows what it means.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:52:39am

re: #75 Charles Johnson

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I fully expect Zelensky to follow the script and announce an investigation of the Bidens.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:52:40am

re: #77 Dread Pirate

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It’s all about power.

There is strength in compromise. Jared’s shit is going to put a lot of people in danger.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:53:20am

re: #80 Joe Bacon 🌹

I fully expect Zelensky to folks the script and announce an investigation of the Bidens.

They’re actually investigating Rudy now I believe

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:56:19am

re: #81 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

There is strength in compromise. Jared’s shit is going to put a lot of people in danger.

Christians want Armageddon and they’re gonna get it.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:57:33am

re: #83 Joe Bacon 🌹

Christians want Armageddon and they’re gonna get it.

Yep

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:58:08am

re: #83 Joe Bacon 🌹

Christians want Armageddon and they’re gonna get it.

Armageddon it?

//

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:58:13am

I think a lot of us are down, not because we are going to lose, not because America is going to lose, but also because trump is going to gloat and keep on gloating. (At least that’s how I’m feeling about it). And if the Democrats do even the smallest protest during the state of the union, they will be the poor sports. It sucks, when victory comes it will be sweet.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 11:59:18am

re: #86 I Would Prefer Not To

I think a lot of us are down, not because we are going to lose, not because America is going to lose, but also because trump is going to gloat and keep on gloating. (At least that’s how I’m feeling about it). And if the Democrats do even the smallest protest during the state of the union, they will be the poor sports. It sucks, when victory comes it will be sweet.

Yes

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Citizen K  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:00:24pm

re: #86 I Would Prefer Not To

I think a lot of us are down, not because we are going to lose, not because America is going to lose, but also because trump is going to gloat and keep on gloating. (At least that’s how I’m feeling about it). And if the Democrats do even the smallest protest during the state of the union, they will be the poor sports. It sucks, when victory comes it will be sweet.

It’s between that and the sincere possibility that the GOP will even further compromise the 2020 elections to the cheering of the press and there may not be a damn thing we can do about it because, as it’s been so aptly proven, #IOKIYAR is de facto law in this country.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:00:25pm

re: #64 Amory Blaine

Out: Kumbaya
In: Raining Blood

Slayer - Raining Blood HD

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:00:40pm

re: #86 I Would Prefer Not To

Agreed, he’s just going to turn the SOTU into another rally.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:01:09pm

re: #88 Citizen K

It’s between that and the sincere possibility that the GOP will even further compromise the 2020 elections to the cheering of the press and there may not be a damn thing we can do about it because, as it’s been so aptly proven, #IOKIYAR is de facto law in this country.

That still only gets them so far. See 2018.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:01:14pm

My oldest son is a Trumporrhoid & my 2 youngest sons are junior Trumporrhoids. I have declared my space a TRUMP FREE ZONE and if they want to talk about the impeachment or any Trump shit they have to go out on the smoker’s porch.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:01:18pm

re: #90 Eclectic Cyborg

Agreed, he’s just going to turn the SOTU into another rally.

He’s definitely going to single out Schiff by name.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:01:49pm

re: #91 Belafon

That still only gets them so far. See 2018.

19 too.

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lawhawk  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:02:26pm

re: #85 Targetpractice

Are you Def? Does a Leppard change its spots? /

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:02:33pm

re: #86 I Would Prefer Not To

I think a lot of us are down, not because we are going to lose, not because America is going to lose, but also because trump is going to gloat and keep on gloating. (At least that’s how I’m feeling about it). And if the Democrats do even the smallest protest during the state of the union, they will be the poor sports. It sucks, when victory comes it will be sweet.

Our job, in this instance, is to stand up for Democrats and tell other people they can just pound sand.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:02:36pm

I really feel they act this way because they’re petrified of Trump campaigning for primary challengers.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:02:59pm

re: #94 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

19 too.

Yep. VA being in an odd year makes it hard to remember.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:03:39pm

My oldest daughter is a Democrat. She is allowed to talk about Trump in my space. Yes I know that is “unfair” to the Trumporrhoids but tough shit.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:04:58pm

re: #98 Belafon

Yep. VA being in an odd year makes it hard to remember.

Kentucky and Louisiana too. Either way, I’m not despairing. The catch is this. There is no national election in 2020 but rather 50 state ones. The Republicans don’t control it all.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:05:23pm

re: #77 Dread Pirate

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It’s all about power.

I will admit that I have not reviewed the plan itself, nor is my understanding of all the Palestinian-Israeli issues anything more than superficial—but where is Israel compromising in this proposal?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:05:46pm

re: #92 The Pie Overlord!

My oldest son is a Trumporrhoid & my 2 youngest sons are junior Trumporrhoids. I have declared my space a TRUMP FREE ZONE and if they want to talk about the impeachment or any Trump shit they have to go out on the smoker’s porch.

I don’t have any in my immediate family but I really worry that my younger brothers don’t see the magnitude of how serious the shit Trump has done is.

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sagehen  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:09:15pm

re: #92 The Pie Overlord!

My oldest son is a Trumporrhoid & my 2 youngest sons are junior Trumporrhoids. I have declared my space a TRUMP FREE ZONE and if they want to talk about the impeachment or any Trump shit they have to go out on the smoker’s porch.

Are you sure the hospital didn’t switch labels in the neonate room?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:13:52pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:15:13pm

re: #56 Targetpractice

Thinking out loud.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:17:10pm

I’m really sick seeing the Trumpers and both sides come out in my former philosophy teacher’s post on the subject. They really are either totally ignorant/indifferent to what actually happened or just want to act like Trump did nothing wrong and MAGA. I hope the dumbass Trumpers know that the precedent the Senate created could easily be used against Republicans too. So enjoy having Donald Trump, Jr investigated by other countries, you assholes.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:20:52pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:21:14pm

re: #92 The Pie Overlord!

My oldest son is a Trumporrhoid & my 2 youngest sons are junior Trumporrhoids. I have declared my space a TRUMP FREE ZONE and if they want to talk about the impeachment or any Trump shit they have to go out on the smoker’s porch.

Isn’t it because Netanyahu was on the Trump train — because Netanyahu basically said that only the GOP can be trusted on Israel when he gave the 2015 speech in Congress at the request of the GOP?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:23:47pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

I really hope Rudy being like this exposes Rudy not as a fallen hero but the same cynical asshole he’s always been. Rudy has been using the tragedy of 9/11 to paint himself in the best possible light for close to 20 years. The real heroes of 9/11 were not Rudy Giuliani but the emts and volunteers who came from all walks of life to save lives that day. Rudy just liked being in front of a camera and even tried to expand his mayoral term.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:24:00pm

re: #92 The Pie Overlord!

It’s too bad they don’t see that Trump would abandon them in an instant if he needed more support from End Times Evangelicals.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:26:15pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:26:31pm

re: #110 jaunte

It’s too bad they don’t see that Trump would abandon them in an instant if he needed more support from End Times Evangelicals.

I’m really hoping if Bibi goes and is replaced by a PM who isn’t knee deep in Evangelical American shit, the mask come off and how they show that they never cared about Israel or Israelis but rather creating conditions for political violence in the ME which would justify their sick end times prophecies.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:27:07pm

re: #111 jaunte

I still hold out some hope that Mitch may be in over his head here and a lot of what we’re seeing is flailing.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:27:56pm

re: #112 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I alternate between thinking this is why Trump put his inexperienced son in law in charge of Mideast Peace or whether it’s just because he couldn’t care less.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:29:30pm

re: #1 Targetpractice

Was there ever any doubt?

Nope. GOP: Loyalty to Dear Leader. Period.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:29:38pm

re: #113 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I still hold out some hope that Mitch may be in over his head here and a lot of what we’re seeing is flailing.

Optimism is never a bad thing.

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Citizen K  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:29:53pm

re: #106 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m really sick seeing the Trumpers and both sides come out in my former philosophy teacher’s post on the subject. They really are either totally ignorant/indifferent to what actually happened or just want to act like Trump did nothing wrong and MAGA. I hope the dumbass Trumpers know that the precedent the Senate created could easily be used against Republicans too. So enjoy having Donald Trump, Jr investigated by other countries, you assholes.

Nah, it would never be used against Republicans. If Dems even dared try, the press would savage them and never let go, the GOP would pounce on any little misstep and get the courts to lay every single hammer down they could and destroy Dem standing as immediately as possible.

Our system is gov’t has been hardwired for permanent conservative dominance it feels like, and any attempt to fight back against it just ends up with us getting our teeth kicked in and told we deserve it.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:29:54pm

re: #114 jaunte

I alternate between thinking this is why Trump put his inexperienced son in law in charge of Mideast Peace or whether it’s just because he couldn’t care less.

When in doubt, it’s the nepotism IMO. Which is why Jared is also in charge of the wall and probably also in charge of a lot of other things that Jared knows nothing about. This eventually will crash and burn on them. I don’t know when but it won’t end well for a lot of the Trump lackeys.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:30:50pm

re: #117 Citizen K

Nah, it would never be used against Republicans. If Dems even dared try, the press would savage them and never let go, the GOP would pounce on any little misstep and get the courts to lay every single hammer down they could and destroy Dem standing as immediately as possible.

Our system is gov’t has been hardwired for permanent conservative dominance it feels like, and any attempt to fight back against it just ends up with us getting our teeth kicked in and told we deserve it.

At this point, play hard ball with the sons of bitches and who gives a shit what the press says. Trump’s making new rules. Someone expose some more of Don Jr’s illegal hunting that he’s done through bribery.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:32:02pm

re: #116 Eclectic Cyborg

Optimism is never a bad thing.

Listen, the polls seem to suggest that people want witnesses. I can’t see any situation where they don’t allow the witnesses and Trump gets acquitted where there aren’t some political casualities. Maybe I am a little over optimistic but if I despair, I’ll go nuts.And as I’ve said, Trump can’t even cancel the election if he wants to, it’s 50 state elections not one giant one.

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Citizen K  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:32:03pm

re: #118 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

When in doubt, it’s the nepotism IMO. Which is why Jared is also in charge of the wall and probably also in charge of a lot of other things that Jared knows nothing about. This eventually will crash and burn on them. I don’t know when but it won’t end well for a lot of the Trump lackeys.

The problem is if/when it all goes down, it won’t just be Jared or the nepotism triplets that go down, it will be our entire state apparatus. And the blame will be portioned out not to those who caused the shit to go down, but to those who don’t fix it fast enough. Same fucking movie as it has been for decades at this point.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:32:05pm

re: #111 jaunte

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Well. Dear Leader needs his praise just like babies need milk. #notnormal.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:33:21pm

re: #121 Citizen K

The problem is if/when it all goes down, it won’t just be Jared or the nepotism triplets that go down, it will be our entire state apparatus. And the blame will be portioned out not to those who caused the shit to go down, but to those who don’t fix it fast enough. Same fucking movie as it has been for decades at this point.

You know? I was speaking frustrated. I actually don’t want a foreign power to investigate those nepotistic pieces of crap. Point is this. It’s a whole new world that’s been created out of this madness.

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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:35:34pm

re: #41 makeitstop

A better song choice would have been ‘Nearer My God To Thee,’ like on the Titanic.

I couldn’t help it

Harry Chapin sings DANCE BAND on the TITANIC Live

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:36:27pm

I just cannot give into despair. If other people want to, that’s their choice but I refuse to. As soon as we’ve got a preemptive nominee, I’m volunteering my ass. I may even consider doing what I did for Kerry in 2004 and do some stuff out of state since Pennsylvania needs to be flipped back. I also think that in a way we may not understand the situation. Republican senators vote for witnesses, Trump will campaign for every last one of their opponents. Maybe there is a fix in. I have no idea but we knew that acquittal wasn’t happening. So let’s use that acquittal in our case ot the voters. We’ve got tons of ads in the making that show just how duplicitous the GOP is both in and outside the WH.Don’t let them claim he was exonerated.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:36:59pm

re: #124 BeachDem

I couldn’t help it

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Hey, got your email from yesterday. Didn’t see it till yesterday since I was out for a lot of the day.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:38:49pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:39:05pm

I just hope you all who despair remember that we flipped 2/3 very Trump states last fall. Do we really think Trump is gonna stop giving us ammo to vote his ass out?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:40:11pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

Fascism is a virus. It is designed to destroy democracy slowly. It’s why democracy and not a rigid economic ideology needs to be the bulwark against tyranny of whatever form it calls itself.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:42:26pm
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Dread Pirate  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:43:15pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:43:52pm

Well, I just submitted my 60-day notice to move out of my apartment.
Now I wait and see if they offer me a decent discount to retain my residency.
Last year when I was planning to move they ended up offering a lease keeping my rent at the previous rate, with the first month of the 12-month lease rent free.

Or, they call my bluff…lol

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PrairieQueen  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:49:00pm

re: #119 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I actually think it would work better for the Dems if they did play hardball instead of taking the high road and ending up #2 most of the time. High road doesn’t pay shit in this climate, but media outrage and involvement seems to work out alright. I’m a Dem and I wouldn’t play nice. I don’t get what chip is missing in the party where they haven’t figured it out yet.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:50:41pm

re: #133 PrairieQueen

I actually think it would work better for the Dems if they did play hardball instead of taking the high road and ending up #2 most of the time. High road doesn’t pay shit in this climate, but media outrage and involvement seems to work out alright. I’m a Dem and I wouldn’t play nice. I don’t get what chip is missing in the party where they haven’t figured it out yet.

I dunno yet either. I’m just trying to stay glass half full. I really need it after the year I had.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:51:24pm

re: #133 PrairieQueen

Pelosi and Schiff aren’t playing nice. Neither are a lot of the others.

What they are trying to do is maintain that one party actually cares about the country.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:52:33pm

And I don’t think Warren’s question to Roberts was playing very nice either.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:53:53pm

re: #135 Belafon

Pelosi and Schiff aren’t playing nice. Neither are a lot of the others.

What they are trying to do is maintain that one party actually cares about the country.

Yeah I’ve been watching a lot of this. They’re not letting their excuses get by.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:54:06pm

re: #120 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Listen, the polls seem to suggest that people want witnesses. I can’t see any situation where they don’t allow the witnesses and Trump gets acquitted where there aren’t some political casualities. Maybe I am a little over optimistic but if I despair, I’ll go nuts.And as I’ve said, Trump can’t even cancel the election if he wants to, it’s 50 state elections not one giant one.

polls say a sizable chunk of R’s want to see witnesses
when they dont get em i dont see that changing any voting habits

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:55:15pm

re: #138 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

polls say a sizable chunk of R’s want to see witnesses
when they dont get em i dont see that changing any voting habits

Well I’m not worried about getting R’s out. The 75% of independents though who decidely both want witnesses and think Trump ahs committed an impeachable offense otoh.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:55:35pm

Now I don’t get how anyone could be an independent after the past twelve or even twenty years but ehre we are.

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stpaulbear  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:56:30pm

I hope Murkowski has enough self-awareness to need to go barf her guts out in the capitol women’s room after voting to have no witnesses.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:57:06pm
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:58:22pm

re: #139 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Well I’m not worried about getting R’s out. The 75% of independents though who decidely both want witnesses and think Trump ahs committed an impeachable offense otoh.

true enough

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piratedan  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:58:38pm

re: #136 Belafon

to be honest, SCJ Roberts isn’t exactly deserving of much respect… if he was taking the proceedings seriously, Senators would have been seated and they would have at least been made to spend time paying attention to the testimony. He wouldn’t have allowed certain “jurors” to have even been seated due to their disqualifying statements before any evidence had even been presented.

You want to be treated with respect, then show some to the office you hold. This isn’t some fucking lawsuit about Tide Pods, this is the impeachment preceding of the highest elected office of the land, if you can’t take that seriously or even fucking fake it, then in this case, you open yourself up to whatever criticism comes your way. It’s not as if Senator Warren wasn’t also a lawyer, who taught law at Harvard.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:59:15pm

re: #141 stpaulbear

I hope Murkowski has enough self-awareness to need to go barf her guts out in the capitol women’s room after voting to have no witnesses.

would require a conscience, which with one, wouldnt twist oneself into this kind of knot in the first place.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 12:59:32pm

re: #143 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

true enough

I’m tryign to stay optimistic as long as possible. I hope for the best while dreading the worst.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:00:57pm

re: #144 piratedan

to be honest, SCJ Roberts isn’t exactly deserving of much respect… if he was taking the proceedings seriously, Senators would have been seated and they would have at least been made to spend time paying attention to the testimony. He wouldn’t have allowed certain “jurors” to have even been seated due to their disqualifying statements before any evidence had even been presented.

You want to be treated with respect, then show some to the office you hold. This isn’t some fucking lawsuit about Tide Pods, this is the impeachment preceding of the highest elected office of the land, if you can’t take that seriously or even fucking fake it, then in this case, you open yourself up to whatever criticism comes your way. It’s not as if Senator Warren wasn’t also a lawyer, who taught law at Harvard.

the senate, led by the majority R’s set the rules and then voted on them.
roberts didnt enforce them at all

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Dread Pirate  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:02:42pm
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garzooma  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:02:55pm

re: #135 Belafon

Pelosi and Schiff aren’t playing nice. Neither are a lot of the others.

How do we get Biden to not play nice? Since, you know, he’s the target of the crimes.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:05:25pm

re: #70 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

if you dont call it a lie you’re not telling them what’s going on

i’m gonna actually amend this

if you don’t call it a lie, you are omitting material facts.
By omitting material facts, you have written a story that is not accurate.
You have created ‘news’ but not news.

that news you are creating is, in fact, fake news.
why?
because what you reported is not what happened.

if your stories are so ambiguous that you’re leaving it to the reader to research every aspect of every story you write, then you’re not in the news business any longer.

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makeitstop  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:08:35pm

re: #124 BeachDem

I couldn’t help it

Even more obscure - Jamie Brockett!

Jaime Brockett - Legend of the USS Titanic (FULL)

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piratedan  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:09:22pm

re: #147 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

agreed, they can’t even do a sham properly. Part of the trouble is, there was absolutely zero to exonerate Trump with and treating the whole affair with the seriousness that it deserved involved morals and ethics and an understanding of the law, well the GOP certainly couldn’t have that.

They’ve made their political calculation and now, as Americans, we’ll hopefully be able to execute our franchise of the ballot and see where that goes.

Myself, if Trump wanted heads on pikes, he may just may get that wish if I read the undernotes of seething that is taking place, not a proponent of mob rule, but when the people who have made the laws and abide by them find that their leaders are declaring themselves no longer subject to them… well bad things tend to happen as a result of that.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:09:27pm

You’re a true non-hero John.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:12:05pm

re: #153 Dread Pirate

You’re a true non-hero John.

Oh but he was fine hanging out with Pam Geller and pushing outrageous crap theories not only about the Obama administration’s policies but about Obama himself. Bolton may despise Trump but he’s a gutless punk still.

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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:16:54pm

re: #154 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Oh but he was fine hanging out with Pam Geller and pushing outrageous crap theories not only about the Obama administration’s policies but about Obama himself. Bolton may despise Trump but he’s a gutless punk still.

I still like the following as a preface to any comment about Bolton’s acts, book or possible testimony: “Bolton is a Republican, therefore he is a turd.”

It really is that ridiculously simple. Republicans are pure shit.

Assuming we find some way to get out of the Trump years and still have a representative democracy, there’s the larger problem of an electorate that is at least 30% hard core shitvoters and another 30% of mindless weathervanes that can vote with the shitvoters for the most stupid and frivolous reasons.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:18:09pm

re: #155 EPR-radar

I still like the following as a preface to any comment about Bolton’s acts, book or possible testimony: “Bolton is a Republican, therefore he is a turd.”

It really is that ridiculously simple. Republicans are pure shit.

Assuming we find some way to get out of the Trump years and still have a representative democracy, there’s the larger problem of an electorate that is at least 30% hard core shitvoters and another 30% of mindless weathervanes that can vote with the shitvoters for the most stupid and frivolous reasons.

Yeah that’s something I’ve been thinking about. A good chunk of our electorate are shitheads.

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Citizen K  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:19:38pm

In other news…

Fantastic state Mitch has there. I hope Beshear can get things in order there, but…considering the pattern of Dem governors with extremely Republican state legislatures, I expect instead yet another push to strip power from said Dem gov and tons of impassible stonewalling instead.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:19:57pm

re: #41 makeitstop

Except only Britain will be adrift on a door.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:22:00pm

re: #2 Joe Bacon 🌹

I hope President Warren turns the tables on Republicans and unleashes her full fury on those traitors using the very powers Trump has been given today.

Maybe she can out-source FEMA camp and send them all to the Russian gulag. I’m sure Putin would like the business, as sort of a consolation prize.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:24:02pm

re: #153 Dread Pirate

You’re a true non-hero John.

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bolton is of a piece with the rest of them
he worked in the administration - that says it all / enough

just because he was booted and is looking in from the outside, and writing a tell-something-if-not-all book is no reason to think he’s changed one iota

just because he could have helped the prosecution side of the case is no reason to think he’s changed one iota

he is one of them and is angling to be back inside again

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:25:09pm

re: #160 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

bolton is of a piece with the rest of them
he worked in the administration - that says it all / enough

just because he was booted and is looking in from the outside, and writing a tell-something-if-not-all book is no reason to think he’s changed one iota

just because he could have helped the prosecution side of the case is no reason to think he’s changed one iota

he is one of them and is angling to be back inside again

See Gravano, Salvatore.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:25:44pm

re: #64 Amory Blaine

Out: Kumbaya
In: Raining Blood

Think this might work as well.

Drowning Pool - Bodies

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:25:50pm

re: #157 Citizen K

In other news…

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Fantastic state Mitch has there. I hope Beshear can get things in order there, but…considering the pattern of Dem governors with extremely Republican state legislatures, I expect instead yet another push to strip power from said Dem gov and tons of impassible stonewalling instead.

sorry - i didnt see “Gun rights activists carrying semi-automatic firearms walk through the Capitol Building on January 31, 2020 in Frankfort, Kentucky.”

i saw a bunch of cowards afraid to show their faces while they “stand up for what they believe”

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:26:58pm

re: #161 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

See Gravano, Salvatore.

sammy?
oh yeah.

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PrairieQueen  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:27:29pm

re: #160 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

Bolton has a distinguished history being a sullen shitbag that toes the party line and isn’t about doing the right thing outside party lines. I was hoping he might be a useful shitbag, but he’s only John Bolton. You can’t expect a turd to stop being a turd. SMH

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:27:30pm

re: #163 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

sorry - i didnt see “Gun rights activists carrying semi-automatic firearms walk through the Capitol Building on January 31, 2020 in Frankfort, Kentucky.”

i saw a bunch of cowards afraid to show their faces while they “stand up for what they believe”

Hmmm I wonder what would happen if those guys were black?

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SteelPH  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:29:35pm

re: #166 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hmmm I wonder what would happen if those guys were black?

Corpses.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:29:47pm

re: #81 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

There is strength in compromise. Jared’s shit is going to put a lot of people in danger.

But not him, so he doesn’t give a shit.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:30:20pm

re: #17 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I just hold out hope someone just decides that Donald Trump isn’t fucking worth it.

Awwww. You’re so cute. That wide-eyed, Rose colored glasses look is totes adorbs!

(Totally razzing you!)

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:30:42pm

re: #165 PrairieQueen

Bolton has a distinguished history being a sullen shitbag that toes the party line and isn’t about doing the right thing outside party lines. I was hoping he might be a useful shitbag, but he’s only John Bolton. You can’t expect a turd to stop being a turd. SMH

The difference is that there is no clear party line. When the shit hits the fan it’s going to be everyman for himself. Bolton is an ass, but he is smart enough to know that it’s going to get ugly in the near future. His plan will probably not work, but he doesn’t have many options. I can’t wait until I get to watch off of them squirm.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:30:50pm

re: #164 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

sammy?
oh yeah.

Yes.

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lizardofid  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:31:28pm

re: #159 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Maybe she can out-source FEMA camp and send them all to the Russian gulag. I’m sure Putin would like the business, as sort of a consolation prize.

Then what will we do with all those empty Walmart stores Obama bought?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:32:01pm

re: #167 SteelPH

Corpses.

That’s what I always try to point out when someone and almost always a white person tries to point out that gun control is racist. Do they not know that even with open carry that black people still get killed. Until we can fix a lot of this shit, maybe these fucking assholes shouldn’t be able to open carry and threaten people.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:33:01pm

re: #169 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Awwww. You’re so cute. That wide-eyed, Rose colored glasses look is totes adorbs!

(Totally razzing you!)

I know you are. I’ve had a tough past few months. Optimism is the only thing that keeps me from goign totally off the rails.

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gocart mozart  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:33:56pm

Not many people know that “The Titanic” was a remake. The original was a 1943 German movie. It’s the same plot, the love story about the girl being married off to the rich asshole but in love with the poor kid, and the stolen jewel etc.

The Nazi Titanic (1943) | Watch Old Movies Online

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Citizen K  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:34:00pm

re: #163 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

sorry - i didnt see “Gun rights activists carrying semi-automatic firearms walk through the Capitol Building on January 31, 2020 in Frankfort, Kentucky.”

i saw a bunch of cowards afraid to show their faces while they “stand up for what they believe”

I mean, 6 of one, half-dozen of the other…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:34:51pm

re: #175 gocart mozart

Not many people know that “The Titanic” was a remake. The original was a 1943 German movie. It’s the same story, the love story about the girl being married off to the rich asshole and the stolen jewel etc.

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Except this one is Antisemitic.

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:35:07pm

re: #87 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We have never known what triumphalism feels like from the losing side.

Just imagine it’s Marching Season every day in Northern Ireland. You’re a Catholic. The Protestants are marching down your street. Every day. No ceasing.

Or you’re black and the guys with white hoods are doing the same with a few firebombs thrown in (and through).

That’s what it feels like to me.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:35:16pm

re: #176 Citizen K

I mean, 6 of one, half-dozen of the other…

And they call us snowflakes. At least I don’t hide behind guns.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:35:49pm

re: #172 lizardofid

Then what will we do with all those empty Walmart stores Obama bought?

They’ll be recreation centers for the UN occupation troops she will bring in.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:36:54pm

re: #178 Sherlock Hound

We have never known what triumphalism feels like from the losing side.

Just imagine it’s Marching Season every day in Northern Ireland. You’re a Catholic. The Protestants are marching down your street. Every day. No ceasing.

Or you’re black and the guys with white hoods are doing the same with a few firebombs thrown in (and through).

That’s what it feels like to me.

I know I sound like a pie in the sky dreamer at times but I keep on thinking this. I am more worried about the implications of Trumpism. That hasn’t changed even if I think we can win in November.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:39:16pm

The notion that Hillary and the devil-crats caused Kobe Bryant’s death isn’t enough for the true failthful by itself and has picked up some, er, enhancement.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:39:42pm

re: #174 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I know you are. I’ve had a tough past few months. Optimism is the only thing that keeps me from goign totally off the rails.

I feel ya, my friend. The last few months have sucked donkey balls.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:40:08pm

Preview of how Donald Trump and the party faithful view today’s Senate vote:

Loyalty is mandatory and absolute.
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sagehen  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:42:05pm

re: #163 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

sorry - i didnt see “Gun rights activists carrying semi-automatic firearms walk through the Capitol Building on January 31, 2020 in Frankfort, Kentucky.”

i saw a bunch of cowards afraid to show their faces while they “stand up for what they believe”

Imagine, just for one moment, how Fox would be covering if those gun rights activists were black. Just imagine.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:42:06pm

re: #183 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I feel ya, my friend. The last few months have sucked donkey balls.

At the same time though, I did see that Graham is in a fight for his life and his opponent is raising otns of money.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:42:58pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:43:01pm

re: #184 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Preview of how Donald Trump and the party faithful view today’s Senate vote:

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It really feels to me Trumpism as an ideology if you can call it one takes on the worst features of past authoritarian mindsets.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:47:39pm

re: #166 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hmmm I wonder what would happen if those guys were black?

they’re wearing masks. how do we know they’re not? //

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:48:10pm

Travel ban now includes. I’m waiting for him to try to include Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala, etc in one.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:49:14pm

re: #170 I Would Prefer Not To

The difference is that there is no clear party line. When the shit hits the fan it’s going to be everyman for himself. Bolton is an ass, but he is smart enough to know that it’s going to get ugly in the near future. His plan will probably not work, but he doesn’t have many options. I can’t wait until I get to watch off of them squirm.

i reiterate that bolton (and to an extent simon and schuster) is not as smart as he appears if he doesnt have a plan already for how to get around the admin squashing his book into library paste

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:51:43pm

re: #175 gocart mozart

Not many people know that “The Titanic” was a remake. The original was a 1943 German movie. It’s the same plot, the love story about the girl being married off to the rich asshole but in love with the poor kid, and the stolen jewel etc.

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read The Wreck of the Titan

prescient it was

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:52:02pm

re: #157 Citizen K

In other news…

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Fantastic state Mitch has there. I hope Beshear can get things in order there, but…considering the pattern of Dem governors with extremely Republican state legislatures, I expect instead yet another push to strip power from said Dem gov and tons of impassible stonewalling instead.

The GOP has a supermajority in the state legislature, and they can override a gubernatorial veto with a simple majority, so they can pretty much do anything they want in Kentucky.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:54:15pm

re: #193 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The GOP has a supermajority in the state legislature, and they can override a gubernatorial veto with a simple majority, so they can pretty much do anything they want in Kentucky.

The GOP really are the heads I win, tails you lose party. I’d like to play that kind of hardball and watch them squeal.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:54:58pm

re: #182 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The notion that Hillary and the devil-crats caused Kobe Bryant’s death isn’t enough for the true failthful by itself and has picked up some, er, enhancement.

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she can down a helicopter by ‘special powers’ but not just reach through the ether and nail him directly?

and what, the other 8 lost lives were for cover?

this is why we are here and cant win an impeachment trial or even get witnesses
and why we cant have nice things
and why all the rum is always gone

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:56:29pm

re: #182 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The notion that Hillary and the devil-crats caused Kobe Bryant’s death isn’t enough for the true failthful by itself and has picked up some, er, enhancement.

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As sometimes it may happen
That a victim must be found
I’ve got a little list
I’ve got a little list…

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:56:33pm

[Roy Batty]
“I have seen history you would not believe.
Congressmen, voting to impeach a Republican president in the 1970s before he resigned.
Republican Senators, ignoring the truth of the 45th Republican President.

All of these moments, to be all lost in time, like tears in the rain.

Time to die.
[/Roy Beatty]

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:57:26pm

re: #189 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

they’re wearing masks. how do we know they’re not? //

They’re still alive.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 31, 2020 • 1:57:46pm

re: #187 Dread Pirate

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this is why you dont look for logic in these arguments
or point out hypocricy
it doesnt matter
and it’ll just make you mad and crazy

they can do this because they have the votes. there is no other reason necessary.

if they didnt have the majority they would have had to put on a real defense

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:06:07pm

re: #192 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

read The Wreck of the Titan

prescient it was

Ah, good ol’ Morgan Robertson.

There’s a subset of people who are like “OMG, he predicted Titanic!” and although the similarities between both his fictional incident and the real Titanic are striking, there are significant differences (for example, there were only 13 survivors in the book, compared to over 700 on the real Titanic).

But Robertson had extensive experience at sea and knew a lot about shipbuilding. In other words, he was very familiar with industry trends at the time and where the potential shortcomings were.

It’d be like if a veteran chemist wrote a fictional account of a Texas Chemical Plant with lax safety standards that ends up going boom.

Not psychic intuition, just plain old intuition from experience.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:08:38pm

re: #195 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

she can down a helicopter by ‘special powers’ but not just reach through the ether and nail him directly?

and what, the other 8 lost lives were for cover?

She bribed the pilot to crash the helicopter. The presence of the others and the girls basketball game was just to mask the true purpose of the mission.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:09:41pm

re: #200 Eclectic Cyborg

Ah, good ol’ Morgan Robertson.

There’s a subset of people who are like “OMG, he predicted Titanic!” and although the similarities between both his fictional incident and the real Titanic are striking, there are significant differences (for example, there were only 13 survivors in the book, compared to over 700 on the real Titanic).

But Robertson had extensive experience at sea and knew a lot about shipbuilding. In other words, he was very familiar with industry trends at the time and where the potential shortcomings were.

It’d be like if a veteran chemist wrote a fictional account of a Texas Chemical Plant with lax safety standards that ends up going boom.

Not psychic intuition, just plain old intuition from experience.

Always figured a lot of that was overblown like the famous Kennedy-Lincoln similarities. There are of course some genuine ones but some aren’t true- Lincoln never had a secretary named Kennedy.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:12:24pm
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Belafon  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:13:10pm

As mistermix says:

The only thing left is to take this vote and hammer away at all the senators who were part of it. It’s Democrats’ turn to wrap ourselves in the flag, quote the Constitution, and amp up the traitor rhetoric that Republicans love to use at every convenient occasion.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:14:24pm

Moron is flailing again.

Plenty of entertaining replies on this one.

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BigPapa  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:14:59pm

I am absolutely going to continue to hammer Trumpers as being unAmerican and anti-patriotic, incessantly noting how they’ve suborned the destruction of the Constitution they mindlessly fetishize.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:16:11pm

re: #205 Eclectic Cyborg

Moron is flailing again.

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And lying. Never forget the lying.

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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:16:25pm

In a small and totally OT bit of good news, the latest trailer for the Final Fantasy 7 remake is looking most excellent.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:16:39pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:17:37pm

re: #207 Mike Lamb

And lying. Never forget the lying.

Yeah there were Republican witnesses. His whining is so pathetic. He’s not going to let this go.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:17:38pm

re: #195 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

she can down a helicopter by ‘special powers’ but not just reach through the ether and nail him directly?

and what, the other 8 lost lives were for cover?

this is why we are here and cant win an impeachment trial or even get witnesses
and why we cant have nice things
and why all the rum is always gone

If she can do that, why is DT still breathing?

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:18:04pm

Jason Momoa out and about in my neck of the woods, surprisingly far from the ocean, too.

Sam’s Seafood Steakhouse is used to serving up fish, but this time they caught a real star.

Patrons might have thought they were seeing things when they spotted what appeared to be Aquaman on dry land in the Johnstown eatery. But it was none other than Jason Momoa — beloved by fans for his roles in “Game of Thrones” and the DC universe, among others.

timesunion.com

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:18:09pm

re: #206 BigPapa

I am absolutely going to continue to hammer Trumpers as being unAmerican and anti-patriotic, incessantly noting how they’ve suborned the destruction of the Constitution they mindlessly fetishize.

Their fake patriotism is disgusting.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:18:57pm

Are we worried about any Dem NO votes?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:19:24pm

re: #211 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

If she can do that, why is DT still breathing?

HRC is the most diabolical criminal yet she couldn’t defeat Trump.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:19:43pm

re: #214 Teddy’s Person

Are we worried about any Dem NO votes?

Maybe Manchin.

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sagehen  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:20:17pm

re: #212 Shropshire Slasher

none other than Jason Momoa — beloved by fans for his roles in “Game of Thrones” and the DC universe, among others

He’ll always be Ronon Dex to me.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:20:25pm

Dammit, I threw my new flannel shirt down to the basement to wash, and the cat deposited a nice mound of vomit on it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:21:08pm

re: #218 Shropshire Slasher

Dammit, I threw my new flannel shirt down to the basement to wash, and the cat deposited a nice mound of vomit on it.

Well…you planned to wash it anyway.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:21:14pm

re: #214 Teddy’s Person

Are we worried about any Dem NO votes?

I hope they all at least vote for the Obstruction one. As for how it will impact this November, I don’t think it will matter.

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:22:56pm

re: #205 Eclectic Cyborg

Moron is flailing again.

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Plenty of entertaining replies on this one.

You’ve every opportunity now to call up Mitch and tell him to whip his caucus to support calling witnesses. Yet you refuse, which can only mean that witnesses will not help your “defense” but only serve to further bury you. And you were allowed lawyers, what you were not allowed was guard dogs who would help you coordinate testimony between those witnesses while also ensuring that any witnesses you did permit would not stray into testimony that would hurt your case.

You are a joke, sir, and the events of today will ensure you never lift that stain from your legacy. After today, you will go down in history as a living symbol of corruption, a man whose infamy eclipses that of Nixon in the memories of the electorate. A rigged trial is not going to erase that asterisk next to your name, you are impeached and you will remain so forevermore. Now scuttle off back to your cheeseburgers and your gold-plated toilet and darken our lives no more.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:25:16pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:26:13pm

re: #222 goddamnedfrank

I’m sure the “Everyone is triggered by me” crowd won’t have a problem wtih this.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:27:04pm

re: #221 Targetpractice

You’ve every opportunity now to call up Mitch and tell him to whip his caucus to support calling witnesses. Yet you refuse, which can only mean that witnesses will not help your “defense” but only serve to further bury you. And you were allowed lawyers, what you were not allowed was guard dogs who would help you coordinate testimony between those witnesses while also ensuring that any witnesses you did permit would not stray into testimony that would hurt your case.

You are a joke, sir, and the events of today will ensure you never lift that stain from your legacy. After today, you will go down in history as a living symbol of corruption, a man whose infamy eclipses that of Nixon in the memories of the electorate. A rigged trial is not going to erase that asterisk next to your name, you are impeached and you will remain so forevermore. Now scuttle off back to your cheeseburgers and your gold-plated toilet and darken our lives no more.

He wanted a show trial where they’d get the Bidens and Jim Jordan, Meadows, and the rest of the Freedumb Caucus incels could yell at them.

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gocart mozart  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:27:41pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:30:47pm

re: #225 gocart mozart

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Should be good.

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gocart mozart  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:31:04pm
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Dave In Austin  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:31:19pm

Manchin was just seen jovially chatting with Trump’s lawyers…….

He’s going to do it again.

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:37:20pm

re: #228 Dave In Austin

Manchin was just seen jovially chatting with Trump’s lawyers…….

He’s going to do it again.

Yeah, it’s going to be Kavanaugh Part II. It’s not going to be the fact that Trump was “acquitted” or the precedents set that will be so much salt in the wound, but rather the insistence that Manchin and/or Jones putting their “bipartisan” stamp on it means that it must be legit because “If Democrats voted against it, then it must mean the House failed to make their case!”

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:41:00pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:42:48pm

re: #230 Charles Johnson

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For all the good that it will do.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:43:04pm

Evening Lizardim. Is it done yet?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:43:44pm

re: #232 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Evening Lizardim. Is it done yet?

Nope, the acquittal won’t go down until late this evening as the GOP tries to bury it at the bottom of the news cycle.

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:43:59pm

51-49 against. Now we know why Murkowski changed her vote.

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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:45:08pm

re: #229 Targetpractice

Yeah, it’s going to be Kavanaugh Part II. It’s not going to be the fact that Trump was “acquitted” or the precedents set that will be so much salt in the wound, but rather the insistence that Manchin and/or Jones putting their “bipartisan” stamp on it means that it must be legit because “If Democrats voted against it, then it must mean the House failed to make their case!”

This is why my biggest hope in this whole process has always been that Manchin, Jones et al. do the right thing and vote with the rest of the Democrats.

There’s a huge difference between a message of “Corrupt POTUS skates on all charges on a party-line vote” and a message of “Bipartisan Senate exonerates Trump.”

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:45:12pm

re: #232 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I do not think so.

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piratedan  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:45:25pm

re: #234 Targetpractice

speculation was to prevent Roberts from being shown for the partisan actor that he is…. if he had to break the tie.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:45:34pm
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Dr. Matt  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:45:47pm

What happened in finance today? Why did the DOW shit out 600 points?

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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:46:12pm

re: #234 Targetpractice

51-49 against. Now we know why Murkowski changed her vote.

Of course. The GOP has to protect CJ Roberts because he is an important ‘fixer’ for their crime syndicate.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:46:21pm

Be prepared for your Trump supporting friends and family to make your life miserable for the next few days.

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Chrysicat  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:46:22pm

From downstairs:

re: #315 PhillyPretzel

Keep in mind that the SDNY has some investigations going on. DT cannot avoid them.

Can’t avoid them as such, but Barr believes more than any AG before him that no federal district should have any independence from the president and especially from the AG.

He’ll officially kill any investigations into Trump from anything other than a state AG, possibly as soon as Monday.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:46:34pm

re: #231 Targetpractice

For all the good that it will do.

Daddy Donald, Uncle Mitch, is it ok if I vote for witnesses?

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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:46:45pm

re: #239 Dr. Matt

What happened in finance today? Why did the DOW shit out 600 points?

Probably the coronavirus issue.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:47:35pm

re: #239 Dr. Matt

What happened in finance today? Why did the DOW shit out 600 points?

Mostly coronavirus concerns. That’s what CNBC said.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:47:47pm

re: #244 EPR-radar

Probably the coronavirus issue.

Also Brexit, which will be official in (checks clock) about 13 minutes.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:49:03pm

re: #239 Dr. Matt

What happened in finance today? Why did the DOW shit out 600 points?

According to CNN, might be worries over the coronavirus.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:49:36pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:50:31pm

GOP: “Nobody is above the law!”

Also GOP: “The law doesn’t apply to Donald Trump!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:51:08pm

Consider the precedent the GOP are setting here.

Now consider how it can be used against them.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:51:28pm

re: #250 Eclectic Cyborg

Consider the precedent the GOP are setting here.

Now consider how it can be used against them.

Don’t worry. They’ll change the rules for the next President.

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Chrysicat  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:52:23pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:53:59pm

re: #251 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Don’t worry. They’ll change the rules for the next President.

Not to worry, once they take the House again with a Dem in the WH, they’ll be back to endless investigations in the hope that they can find some grounds to launch their own impeachment proceedings, when they’ll drag in Derpowitz and others to insist that impeachment is about “cleansing the office.”

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:55:01pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:55:05pm

re: #241 Eclectic Cyborg

Be prepared for your Trump supporting friends and family to make your life miserable for the next few days.

They already were.

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Chrysicat  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:55:58pm

re: #253 Targetpractice

Not to worry, once they take the House again with a Dem in the WH, they’ll be back to endless investigations in the hope that they can find some grounds to launch their own impeachment proceedings, when they’ll drag in Derpowitz and others to insist that impeachment is about “cleansing the office.”

Which is why we have to win the state elections this winter and no matter how morally repugnant the process is, gerrymander the House districts as far in our favour as we can manage one last time before they can be made nonpartisan after 2030.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:56:02pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

Hi, CSPAN, I’m a lifelong Democrat but I’m reading a script that sounds like the RNC wrote it. //

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gocart mozart  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:56:11pm
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Chrysicat  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:56:47pm
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Dave In Austin  Jan 31, 2020 • 2:57:10pm

Please report this Fuck AGAIN!!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:00:01pm

re: #258 gocart mozart

Somewhere in the comments, I bet there is a bot telling Monica that she doesn’t understand the Clinton impeachment.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:00:47pm

re: #259 Chrysicat

Huh who’s not up until 24? Mitch is up this year.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:01:03pm

It is now 11:01 PM Greenwich Mean Time.

The United Kingdom is no longer a member of the EU.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:01:23pm

re: #241 Eclectic Cyborg

Be prepared for your Trump supporting friends and family to make your life miserable for the next few days.

i am fortunate

i have none
(trump supporting that is)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:03:05pm

re: #262 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Huh who’s not up until 24? Mitch is up this year.

Romney.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:04:02pm

re: #263 Eclectic Cyborg

It is now 11:01 PM Greenwich Mean Time.

The United Kingdom is no longer a member of the EU.

Enjoy being alone English nationalists.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:04:16pm

re: #265 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Romney.

Ohhhhhhhh. My bad. I’m sorry. Way off.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:06:27pm

re: #266 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Hmm. Should I plan a trip to see Highclere Castle? Or maybe Chatsworth?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:09:18pm

re: #268 PhillyPretzel

Hmm. Should I plan a trip to see Highclere Castle? Or maybe Chatsworth?

I mean I’m sure the tourism will still be fine but they’re shooting themselves in the arse economically to appease a bunch of nativist jackasses who want the wealth of the British Empire but with only British people.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:11:19pm

re: #269 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yes. The jackasses have been shooting themselves and now are trying to take the rest of us down too.

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Chrysicat  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:11:57pm

re: #264 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

i am fortunate

i have none
(trump supporting that is)

As far as RL goes, I just have none in terms of friends. The only one I had was arrested as a pedo in April and I have no intention of re-connecting even if she ever gets freed. Aside from that, every last person I know IRL is a friend of either my parents or sister.

Though I do live with both types of brainwashed family: my mother never made plan one to evacuate because she was sure sooner or later someone would successfully end the Trump dictatorship before it fully began one, and Dad’s a MAGAt who nonethless claims to despise Trump more than any politician below him.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:13:46pm

Just popped up in my feed.

Connecticut opera singer, 30, is arrested after Secret Service open fire on her SUV when she crashed through two security checkpoints at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort

A Connecticut opera singer has been arrested following a police-involved shooting after she crashed her SUV through two security checkpoints near President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort.

Hannah Roemhild, 30, was taken into custody following the ordeal near Trump’s resort in Palm Beach, Florida on Friday just hours before the President was due to arrive.

Police say the incident unfolded after they responded to reports of a white woman acting irrationally and dancing on the top of a car in the parking lot of a motel near Mar-a-Lago.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:14:33pm

re: #261 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Somewhere in the comments, I bet there is a bot telling Monica that she doesn’t understand the Clinton impeachment.

And not all of them will be bots. There are some deeply stupid people in the country who have twitter accounts and aren’t ashamed to let their fool flags fly.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:14:58pm

re: #272 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I hope her car was a rental.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:15:36pm

re: #270 PhillyPretzel

Yes. The jackasses have been shooting themselves and now are trying to take the rest of us down too.

It’s awful. I have cousins in England and Wales. The funny thing was though hearing my cousin’s little boy talk about Boris the way my niece does Trump.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:15:55pm

Berner

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:16:29pm

re: #273 Teddy’s Person

And not all of them will be bots. There are some deeply stupid people in the country who have twitter accounts and aren’t ashamed to let their fool flags fly.

Oh I know, it’s the bots are funnier because of their awkward English syntax.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:17:06pm
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stpaulbear  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:17:59pm

Trump is going to spend all weekend tweeting hate tweets about Romney and Collins (and everyone else he can think of). He’s not going to get one second of satisfaction at getting away with the crime. It’s going to be all vendetta, all of the time, and I hope the stress wrecks him. Soon.

I’m going to call both my senators on Monday to tell them THANK YOU for putting up the good fight. The House managers were fantastic throughout, and Warren’s dig at Roberts is going to be legend.

We knew it was going to end this way, but the republicans chose to do it in the worst way possible. They and Trump’s defenders did everything they could to do this in the absolute worst way possible. Congrats, assholes.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:18:10pm

re: #278 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

That’s going to get locked, but good on ya, mate, whoever you are.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:19:13pm

re: #272 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Just popped up in my feed.

Connecticut opera singer, 30, is arrested after Secret Service open fire on her SUV when she crashed through two security checkpoints at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort

A Connecticut opera singer has been arrested following a police-involved shooting after she crashed her SUV through two security checkpoints near President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort.

Hannah Roemhild, 30, was taken into custody following the ordeal near Trump’s resort in Palm Beach, Florida on Friday just hours before the President was due to arrive.

Police say the incident unfolded after they responded to reports of a white woman acting irrationally and dancing on the top of a car in the parking lot of a motel near Mar-a-Lago.

I guess, as with Republicans, motivation is the key. If Trump had been convicted and removed, I would have danced on top of my car, the Rolls-Royce at that.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:24:20pm

America is officially a third-rate shithole thanks to GOP Nazi scum.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:26:46pm

“Security breach at Mar-a-Lago” is kind of howler, considering all the classified info Trump doles out to paying members.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:26:52pm

Sappy Schlaappy……

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stpaulbear  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:30:22pm

re: #284 Dave In Austin

I wonder if Romney might be capable of getting to a point where he just doesn’t give a shit any more, and turns into Jennifer Rubin?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:31:52pm

Perhaps we should dub Jan 31 as “Putin Day.”

[video, 0:59]

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stpaulbear  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:33:38pm

re: #286 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Wow.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:34:23pm

re: #287 stpaulbear

Wow.

Poignant, isn’t it?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:35:39pm

re: #288 Eclectic Cyborg

Poignant, isn’t it?

Several wags are noting “save the space, Scotland will be back.”

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stpaulbear  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:37:37pm

I need to go to a Medicare seminar. One of the topics is how expensive it will be to be an old. BBL.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:38:09pm

re: #284 Dave In Austin

Sappy Schlaappy……

Now get out. You’re banned from this historical society. cult centered around an orange shitgibbon. You and your children, and your children’s children… for three months

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:38:46pm
Atari is opening a chain of hotels.

The video game pioneer — whose classic titles included “Pong,” “Asteroids” and “RollerCoaster Tycoon” — announced this week that its first hotel will break ground this spring in Phoenix.

The video game-themed hotels will “level up hotel entertainment with fully immersive experiences for every age and gaming ability” and will feature “the latest in virtual and augmented reality,” Atari said.

I was already bored with the idea. Ah nostalgia.
nypost.com

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:39:45pm

re: #285 stpaulbear

I wonder if Romney might be capable of getting to a point where he just doesn’t give a shit any more, and turns into Jennifer Rubin?

He is due for a software patch isn’t he? Joking aside, I think Trump’s going to lose it. Also 51-49 so no Dems joined the Republicans. Good.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:40:34pm

re: #289 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Several wags are noting “save the space, Scotland will be back.”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:42:40pm

re: #276 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Berner

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Yep. Now that her sympathies are known, the usual suspects will have her as the reincarnation of Osama bin Laden, Pol Pot, and Lavrenti Beria before the day is out.
Hannah Roemhild: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

One post on her Facebook page contained a sign reading “not my president” in reference to Trump. In 2016, she indicated support for Bernie Sanders on social media. She’s a registered Democrat, according to Connecticut records.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:42:43pm

My cousin’s husband posted on it. He’s rarely political but he’s not happy at all about this. I have no idea what his party is though he’s definitely small letter l- liberal. He also had me do a great gag on a Welsh friend of theirs when he had me ask the man if it iwas true that Wales was owned by England. Guy immediately knew who put me up to it but I reminded him that I was getting a pint out of it and we all had a good laugh about it.

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Chrysicat  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:45:06pm
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HRH Stanley Sea  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:46:03pm

re: #222 goddamnedfrank

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Long laugh. Gasp. Longer laugh.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:48:56pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:51:02pm

em>re: #297 Chrysicat

Yep, it was really nice for a change. I never celebrated it anyhow. Trash holiday for awful people.

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Chrysicat  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:51:33pm

re: #299 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:52:05pm

re: #222 goddamnedfrank

Several people in that thread say it looks like Speed Racer.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:52:26pm
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Semper Fi  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:54:35pm

re: #303 Charles Johnson

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We have officially joined the axis of evil.

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BigPapa  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:55:50pm

re: #304 Semper Fi

We have officially joined the axis of evil.

We’re a Shithole Country now.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:57:06pm

re: #303 Charles Johnson

Land mines: When you absolutely, positively need to make sure that your enemies, your enemies’ children, and your enemies’ grandchildren hate you for the entirety of their lives.

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cat-tikvah  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:57:38pm

re: #305 BigPapa

We’re a Shithole Country now.

Guess it’s time for decent countries to put us on a travel ban list.

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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:58:07pm

re: #304 Semper Fi

We have officially joined the axis of evil.

For all of Trump’s endlessly rancid, deplorable shittiness, the cumulative scale of his crimes (thus far) pale in comparison to those of W Bush.

The W Bush regime legitimized torture and waged an aggressive war of choice in Iraq.

Trump is doing nothing that is new for Republicans, and still has much to do if he wants to claim the distinguished title of worst US president ever from W Bush.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:58:23pm

re: #272 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Just popped up in my feed.

Connecticut opera singer, 30, is arrested after Secret Service open fire on her SUV when she crashed through two security checkpoints at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort

She’s pretty cute and obviously a bit nuts in a fun way. Except for the DUI and the felony charges… I wonder if she’s single.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 31, 2020 • 3:59:02pm

re: #307 cat-tikvah

Guess it’s time for decent countries to put us on a travel ban list.

Lots of eight-digit Russian employee numbers in that list trying to whatabout it.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:02:38pm
The impeachment trial of President Donald Trump will be the first such trial in U.S. history to feature no witness testimony after Senate Republicans voted on Friday against hearing from any of the firsthand witnesses to the president’s conduct.

COVER-UP COMPLETE: SENATE NIXES WITNESSES (goes to Huffington Post), more at the link.

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Jay C  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:04:00pm

re: #269 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I mean I’m sure the tourism will still be fine but they’re shooting themselves in the arse economically to appease a bunch of nativist jackasses who want the wealth of the British Empire but with only British people.

Well, it probably IS likely that Brexit is going to have negative effects on the economy in the log run, but I wasn’t really surprised to find out that while 1/31 was the official “exit day”, the withdrawal agreement gives the UK and the EU until the end of this year to finalize the details of the separation (customs, tariffs, trade regs, etc.) I guess the Brexiteers (however misguided, IMO) aren’t stupid enough to actually “crash out”, and will try to spin out any negative effects of their “new” “independence” as long as possible.

One thing I haven’t seen much analysis of, though: is what, exactly, they are planning to do about the Irish border. I read about their plan to “put the border into the Irish Sea”, but since the actual Ulster/Eire border is on land, that proposal makes little sense.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:04:12pm

re: #303 Charles Johnson

Like we’ve always said about them: The cruelty is the point.

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Chrysicat  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:04:59pm

He’s going to mine the ersatz Inner German Border he’s putting up. There’s no other reason to legalise land mines.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:05:15pm

re: #303 Charles Johnson

Jim Wright speculated a couple days ago when this was promoted that Trump intends to mine the Mexican border.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:05:26pm

I bet the landmine idea was Stephen Millers.

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Chrysicat  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:07:33pm

re: #312 Jay C

Well, it probably IS likely that Brexit is going to have negative effects on the economy in the log run, but I wasn’t really surprised to find out that while 1/31 was the official “exit day”, the withdrawal agreement gives the UK and the EU until the end of this year to finalize the details of the separation (customs, tariffs, trade regs, etc.) I guess the Brexiteers (however misguided, IMO) aren’t stupid enough to actually “crash out”, and will try to spin out any negative effects of their “new” “independence” as long as possible.

One thing I haven’t seen much analysis of, though: is what, exactly, they are planning to do about the Irish border. I read about their plan to “put the border into the Irish Sea”, but since the actual Ulster/Eire border is on land, that proposal makes little sense.

It makes little sense, but it’s literally the only way to prevent a resumption of The Troubles. As far as I can tell, it’s placing a bet that de facto Irish reunification will get fewer Orangist terrorists in Belfast and Dublin than re-arming the marchlands will get in Liverpool and London.

It is is too bad that it has to remain de facto, because the Tories are so obsessed at perpetuating an illusion of a UK that is anything other than England.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:08:00pm

Tre: #312 Jay C

Well, it probably IS likely that Brexit is going to have negative effects on the economy in the log run, but I wasn’t really surprised to find out that while 1/31 was the official “exit day”, the withdrawal agreement gives the UK and the EU until the end of this year to finalize the details of the separation (customs, tariffs, trade regs, etc.) I guess the Brexiteers (however misguided, IMO) aren’t stupid enough to actually “crash out”, and will try to spin out any negative effects of their “new” “independence” as long as possible.

One thing I haven’t seen much analysis of, though: is what, exactly, they are planning to do about the Irish border. I read about their plan to “put the border into the Irish Sea”, but since the actual Ulster/Eire border is on land, that proposal makes little sense.

Yeah I’m sure there’s other things that need to be done before it’s really finalized. As for ROI/NI, I have roots in both. I really hope this isn’t the return of the Troubles and instead is a start towards unification. I have roots in County Fermanagh which is where the border would be. They’re going to need to set up some sort of agreement with Dublin. God this is so stupid.

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Chrysicat  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:08:44pm

re: #315 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Jim Wright speculated a couple days ago when this was promoted that Trump intends to mine the Mexican border.

It should also be noted that this is almost certainly not even primarily to keep people out in the long run.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:09:09pm

re: #314 Chrysicat

He’s going to mine the ersatz Inner German Border he’s putting up. There’s no other reason to legalise land mines.

Didn’t he want the Bond movie villain special with a moat with alligators too? God if he mines the border and people get killed or hurt, try his ass for crimes against humanity.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:09:44pm

re: #320 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Didn’t he want the Bond movie villain special with a moat with alligators too? God if he mines the border and people get killed or hurt, try his ass for crimes against humanity.

Sharks with FRICKIN’ laser beams!

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aatharuv  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:10:25pm

It looks like the third round of the Muslim ban is out — it affects immigration rather than tourist/business travel. All the countries speculated about were on the list…. except Belarus. “Why’s that?”

From Trump administration expands Travel Ban

Immigrant visas will be suspended for citizens of four countries — Nigeria, the most populous country in Africa, Myanmar (also known as Burma), Eritrea and Kyrgyzstan — while people from Sudan and Tanzania will be barred from the U.S. diversity visa program, which awards green cards to immigrants.

Burma is the only one which is neither Muslim majority, nor has a large Muslim minority (Tanzania), and ironically, is engaging in ethnic cleansing of it’s own mostly Muslim minority, the Rohingya).

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:10:52pm

re: #316 Eclectic Cyborg

I bet the landmine idea was Stephen Millers.

If there’s an idea that is cruel and almost comic book cruel, you can bet that Miller was the brainchild. Miller is the worst person in this administration not named Trump probably.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:11:10pm

re: #321 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Sharks with FRICKIN’ laser beams!

Do you think he would settle for sea bass?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:11:15pm

re: #314 Chrysicat

He’s going to mine the ersatz Inner German Border he’s putting up. There’s no other reason to legalise land mines.

They’re trying to spin it as “timed landmine which deactivate in a certain number of days are different.”

The landmine treaty makes no distinction between them. Timers can fail.

Back in 1984 when Pat Robertson was running for the GOP nomination, he specifically wanted to build a wall with both borders and lay landmines. His argument was it was to prevent people like atheists and minority religions from escaping their “proper punishment.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:12:26pm

re: #322 aatharuv

It looks like the third round of the Muslim ban is out — it affects immigration rather than tourist/business travel. All the countries speculated about were on the list…. except Belarus. “Why’s that?”

From Trump administration expands Travel Ban

Immigrant visas will be suspended for citizens of four countries — Nigeria, the most populous country in Africa, Myanmar (also known as Burma), Eritrea and Kyrgyzstan — while people from Sudan and Tanzania will be barred from the U.S. diversity visa program, which awards green cards to immigrants.

Burma is the only one which is neither Muslim majority, nor has a large Muslim minority (Tanzania), and ironically, is engaging in ethnic cleansing of it’s own mostly Muslim minority, the Rohingya).

Point of reference but Burma has a lot of Muslims who are fleeing persecution. I really expect him to do El Salvador, Mexico, Guatemala, and other Central American countries with more indigenous people next.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:12:33pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:13:03pm

re: #326 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Point of reference but Burma has a lot of Muslims who are fleeing persecution. I really expect him to do El Salvador, Mexico, Guatemala, and other Central American countries with more indigenous people next.

I’m waiting for the day he goes full South Park and bans Canadians.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:13:42pm

re: #328 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m waiting for the day he goes full South Park and bans Canadians.

Don’t let Stephen Miller know that you have Muslims from your birth country buddy.

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gocart mozart  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:14:46pm
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aatharuv  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:18:00pm

re: #326 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Oh trying to block Rohingya refugees — that makes sense from a Bannon/Miller point of view.They’re a relatively small minority, compared to Tanzania (where they’re 1/3rd of the population, but if they’re a majority of Burma-born immigrants…

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steve_davis  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:18:42pm

re: #129 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Fascism is a virus. It is designed to destroy democracy slowly. It’s why democracy and not a rigid economic ideology needs to be the bulwark against tyranny of whatever form it calls itself.

you know, it would never work, but Mortimer Adler and the other guy had the right idea. Give people the great works and encourage them to read. You can even produce study guides. Part of the reason we’re in this shite is because large numbers of people who are considered reasonably well educated can’t actually think their way out of a wet paper bag. Instead, our entire society is infected with a kind of moral rot, and where what used to be a pretty orthodox sense of religion has turned into fundie bullshit where there’s like a combination of cheap grace and snake handling. Force people through the Summa and I assure you they will have no goddamned patience for carnival barkers like trump.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:20:05pm

re: #331 aatharuv

Oh trying to block Rohingya refugees — that makes sense from a Bannon/Miller point of view.They’re a relatively small minority, compared to Tanzania (where they’re 1/3rd of the population, but if they’re a majority of Burma-born immigrants…

Yeah someone must have told him that there were Muslims there being persecuted. But yeah more Muslims in Tanzania for sure given its location and history. I didn’t know they were that big of a percentage of the population but given Swahili’s Arabic influences I guess I’m not too surprised. Tanzania IIRC is experiencing some economic growth right now.

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steve_davis  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:20:12pm

re: #132 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Well, I just submitted my 60-day notice to move out of my apartment.
Now I wait and see if they offer me a decent discount to retain my residency.
Last year when I was planning to move they ended up offering a lease keeping my rent at the previous rate, with the first month of the 12-month lease rent free.

Or, they call my bluff…lol

yeah, i tried that with mine. I offered them the entire year’s rent in advance if they’d basically discount it by a month’s rent. Not interested. So, they got their full year’s rent, at the cost of my almost certainly moving out when the summer rolls around and I have time to look for alternatives.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:21:08pm

re: #316 Eclectic Cyborg

I bet the landmine idea was Stephen Millers.

Well if you can’t have fucking crocodiles and snakes, or sharks with friggin’ lasers strapped on their heads. Landmines are the next best thing.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:21:40pm

re: #332 steve_davis

you know, it would never work, but Mortimer Adler and the other guy had the right idea. Give people the great works and encourage them to read. You can even produce study guides. Part of the reason we’re in this shite is because large numbers of people who are considered reasonably well educated can’t actually think their way out of a wet paper bag. Instead, our entire society is infected with a kind of moral rot, and where what used to be a pretty orthodox sense of religion has turned into fundie bullshit where there’s like a combination of cheap grace and snake handling. Force people through the Summa and I assure you they will have no goddamned patience for carnival barkers like trump.

I’ve been wanting to change how we teach the 20th century for years. We always rushed through post WWII in history class. That I always thought was a big mistake.

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gocart mozart  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:22:31pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:24:17pm

re: #336 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

In the School District of Philadelphia one rarely gets past WWI. The only reason why I know as much as I do about WWII was because my late dad served in WWII in SHAEF HQ.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:24:37pm

re: #337 gocart mozart

Just as long as he doesn’t give Cailou a tax cut.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:26:16pm

re: #338 PhillyPretzel

In the School District of Philadelphia one rarely gets past WWI. The only reason why I know as much as I do about WWII was because my late dad served in WWII in SHAEF HQ.

10th grade for me was 2002-3 so I want to say we ended perhaps with Apartheid or the Gulf War but we really rushed things a little after WWII ended. I don’t blame my teacher, who was a capable guy but it was rushed. And I know a lot of what I know because I always try to learn more about the subjects that I learn about. WWI in 7th grade made me want to read All Quiet on the Western Front for example.

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:28:36pm

Republicans are pursuing acquittal in the worst possible way, Jen Rubin

• The public should understand fully that the Republican Party has become the authoritarian party. Instead of limited government, separation of powers and self-rule, Republicans embrace — when it suits their fancy — unlimited executive power, executive domination of the other branches and selling our democracy to the highest foreign bidder. They have mutilated the Constitution so they can claim its broken remains. They have been willing to sacrifice an ally to Russian domination, a signal to the Kremlin and others that we are feckless friends. Voters should be forewarned that neither the legislative branch nor executive branch can be entrusted to this crowd.
• Americans who actually adhere to conservative beliefs should give up the fantasy that the GOP can be rescued. In not only electing and defending Trump but also shredding long-held constitutional principles, it poses a threat to the rule of law, equal justice under the law and the American creed (“All men …”). Their energies are best spent in the short run trying to nominate and help elect a centrist Democrat and then creating a principled center-right party from the ground up.
• The country needs to have a robust discussion about the electoral college, the Senate filibuster, the defects in the impeachment process, firewalls between the White House and the Justice Department, the power to indict sitting presidents, the War Powers Act, statutory emergency powers (which Trump has abused) and voting rights. (When Republicans hear that presidential contender Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has a long list of executive orders ready to go, perhaps they will reflect on the path to tyranny they have paved.)

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Dread Pirate  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:30:55pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:31:28pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:32:20pm

re: #340 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

10th grade for me was 2002-3 so I want to say we ended perhaps with Apartheid or the Gulf War but we really rushed things a little after WWII ended. I don’t blame my teacher, who was a capable guy but it was rushed. And I know a lot of what I know because I always try to learn more about the subjects that I learn about. WWI in 7th grade made me want to read All Quiet on the Western Front for example.

12th grade for me was 1977-8 (I missed mandatory history class in 11th grade because I was out of the country that year). We got as far as the end of WW2.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:33:19pm

re: #344 Anymouse 🌹🎃

12th grade for me was 1977-8 (I missed mandatory history class in 11th grade because I was out of the country that year). We got as far as the end of WW2.

12th grade for me was 2001-2002. We covered the Gulf War and the fall of the Soviet Union… then we lived history in the fall. Mine was the Class of 9/11.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:35:08pm
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Chrysicat  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:36:00pm

At this point, do we even know which side of the border Trump plans to put the land mines on? He’s alienated so much else of the rural vote, can his vote totals afford to emplace booby traps half a mile onto American soil instead of Mexican?

(Yes, I know that’s an act of war. The Confederacy may have no way to maintain air superiority thanks to the F-35 being the worst warplane built in 70 years, but they also have more tanks than Mexico has men and women under arms, so I think they’re not worried about that just yet and may actively want to drive Obrador to war).

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:37:12pm

re: #347 Chrysicat

I’m sure the cartels will never think of herding cattle north over the minefield to clear a path.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:39:29pm

Of course, they have enough money to use robots.

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Florida Panhandler  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:39:33pm

re: #348 jaunte

I’m sure the cartels will never think of herding cattle north over the minefield to clear a path.

Forget cattle. Enough Wild Feral hogs and deer and coyotes to render any minefield a joke. No organization needed.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:39:43pm

re: #348 jaunte

I’m sure the cartels will never think of herding cattle north over the minefield to clear a path.

They’ll just do more tunnels. Go under the mines just like they do with the “wall” now.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:40:01pm

re: #347 Chrysicat

At this point, do we even know which side of the border Trump plans to put the land mines on? He’s alienated so much else of the rural vote, can his vote totals afford to emplace booby traps half a mile onto American soil instead of Mexican?

(Yes, I know that’s an act of war. The Confederacy may have no way to maintain air superiority thanks to the F-35 being the worst warplane built in 70 years, but they also have more tanks than Mexico has men and women under arms, so I think they’re not worried about that just yet and may actively want to drive Obrador to war).

Has he, though? Look, they may express displeasure with the economic situation, or with specific policies, but at the end of the day, Middle America will vote for God, Guns, and Abortion just as they always have, because they refuse to acknowledge that Christianity is not a political ideology.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:42:12pm

re: #344 Anymouse 🌹🎃

12th grade for me was 1977-8 (I missed mandatory history class in 11th grade because I was out of the country that year). We got as far as the end of WW2.

I think there’s gotta be a way to focus more on that time period. The problem is of course that may leave less time for the early history which is also important. Now in 6/7 grade, we divided history. It was US history until Reconstruction and then from Reconstruction on. 8th was Civics. 9/10 World history to the Renascence and then the Present. 11th was just US and definitely rushed. 12th was Government. I dunno. THere’s gotta be a better way of how we teach our history.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:43:02pm

re: #352 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Has he, though? Look, they may express displeasure with the economic situation, or with specific policies, but at the end of the day, Middle America will vote for God, Guns, and Abortion just as they always have, because they refuse to acknowledge that Christianity is not a political ideology.

We will see what happens but I think there may be some farmers out there who may not be willing to give him a vote again. Maybe enough of them stay home this time and let him fend for himself because they’re tired of winning.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:43:04pm

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aatharuv  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:43:40pm

re: #351 Eventual Carrion

Speaking of tunnels, this was just from a couple of days back.

Longest cross border drug tunnel in history discovered in Otay Mesa

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:43:52pm

re: #344 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Little do I recall from the HS history class. All I remember is that in class one day I correctly answered the question “what is Manifest Destiny?”

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:43:59pm
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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:44:27pm

re: #249 Targetpractice

GOP: “Nobody is above the law!”

Also GOP: “The law doesn’t apply to Donald Trump!”

Therefore, logically, Donald Trump is nobody.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:44:54pm

re: #355 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Over on Twitter:

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#ImpeachmentTrialSham
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You’re going to see the same social media machine that help elevate Trump bring him down. Probably not what Jack, Mark, and friends thought but the hashtags here lend themselves to the Republican cowardice more than anything the Dems have done.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:46:08pm

re: #356 aatharuv

Our “war on drugs” has only made international drug trade even more lucrative. When billions of dollars are on the line, a mile long tunnel is not such a big deal.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:47:44pm

re: #357 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Little do I recall from the HS history class. All I remember is that in class one day I correctly answered the question “what is Manifest Destiny?”

Oh I remember it well because I was always the kid that was a savant in the games that we played to prepare for tests. My history knowledge was always strong because I remember since I knew all the Presidents when I was 4. It was probably in hindsight the first sign I had Asperger’s but it’s something that people I grew up with still talked about in high school.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:48:18pm

re: #357 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Little do I recall from the HS history class. All I remember is that in class one day I correctly answered the question “what is Manifest Destiny?”

I don’t remember if I was ever directly asked that, though I probably would have been marked wrong even as a teenager for “the Christian supremacist justification for genocide and land theft.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:49:39pm

re: #358 Charles Johnson

They really do want to kill people for being undocumented. You read it in the comments and you want to puke at how cruel people can be.

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Chrysicat  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:50:36pm
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mmmirele  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:50:47pm

re: #316 Eclectic Cyborg

I bet the landmine idea was Stephen Millers.

I see him airdropped amongst his evil creation, and nowhere to move.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:53:25pm

re: #365 Chrysicat

Supporters of the F-35 aircraft program became proponents of the “sunk cost fallacy” (which happens a lot with defence contracts).

We’ve already spent billions on this! We can’t abandon it now!

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:55:03pm

re: #342 Dread Pirate

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“The frothy right,” as Marcy Wheeler refers to them, are always all cooked up about Deep State, Illuminati, etc. But when it really is just the ultra-privileged who actually run the media that complains about the Deep State and Illuminati, they are silent.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:56:29pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:57:23pm

Stalking Horse (goes to Stonekettle Station), put up about three hours ago.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:58:26pm
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jaunte  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:58:46pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:59:17pm

re: #367 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Supporters of the F-35 aircraft program became proponents of the “sunk cost fallacy” (which happens a lot with defence contracts).

We’ve already spent billions on this! We can’t abandon it now!

I was never high on the F-35 to begin with. The F/A-18 was the closest thing to a truly universal aircraft. Otherwise, the various air roles are too different in flight and munitions profiles to truly reconcile in a single one-size-fits-all plane. And in trying to engineer the perfect interceptor/air superiority/ground support aircraft, they got a steaming pile of outlandishly expensive garbage.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 4:59:58pm

re: #372 jaunte

You know for all Trump’s talk about ohw the impeachment is a SHAM. This sounds like a sham to me. But then again Trump thinks anything that isn’t Kim Jong Unsque worship of him is a hoax and a sham.

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gocart mozart  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:05:18pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:06:41pm

re: #337 gocart mozart

My friend used to read out loud to her baby whatever novel she happened to be reading. By the time Shoni was 18 months old she could carry on a understandable discussions with anyone.

I was completely amazed.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:07:41pm

So, was Hitler doing what was in the best interest of Germany? A lot of people thought so.

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sagehen  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:10:56pm

re: #354 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We will see what happens but I think there may be some farmers out there who may not be willing to give him a vote again. Maybe enough of them stay home this time and let him fend for himself because they’re tired of winning.

If they lost their farm, they’ve had to move and their address is no longer current. Wouldn’t it be funny if they get caught up in voter suppression efforts that weren’t intended for them?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:11:11pm

re: #377 Barefoot Grin

So, was Hitler doing what was in the best interest of Germany? A lot of people thought so.

Well according to Candece Owens, Hitler was fine before he invaded Poland because you know Dachau, the Night of Long Knives, annexing Austria and Czechoslovakia, the Nuremberg Laws are just fine for TPUSA and Hitler was MDGAing.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:12:20pm

re: #378 sagehen

If they lost their farm, they’ve had to move and their address is no longer current. Wouldn’t it be funny if they get caught up in voter suppression efforts that weren’t intended for them?

Karma.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:12:20pm

re: #378 sagehen

If they lost their farm, they’ve had to move and their address is no longer current. Wouldn’t it be funny if they get caught up in voter suppression efforts that weren’t intended for them?

It would be I concede darkly funny to see Trump lose because of Republican voters being purged by their own secretaries of states. However, I’d settle for a trashing at hte polls.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:15:24pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:19:41pm

re: #382 jaunte

If they do not acknowledge the question it will not exist. At least that is their way of thinking.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:20:39pm

re: #378 sagehen

If they lost their farm, they’ve had to move and their address is no longer current. Wouldn’t it be funny if they get caught up in voter suppression efforts that weren’t intended for them?

Ever since Reconstruction ended, conservatives have been willing to sacrifice a few votes through suppression as long as the sacrificed more from “those” people.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:20:45pm

dscc.org

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:20:59pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:23:35pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:24:54pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:28:10pm

Navajo Code Talker dies at 96; less than a handful remain (Goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, more at the link):

WINDOW ROCK, Ariz. (AP) — One of the few remaining Navajo Code Talkers who used their native language to confound the Japanese in World War II has died.

Joe Vandever Sr. died of health complications Friday in Haystack, New Mexico, according to his family. He was 96.

Tribal leaders called Vandever a “great warrior” and a “compassionate family man” and asked Navajos to keep his spirit and his family in their prayers.

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gocart mozart  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:28:28pm

I like this song even though it’s a straight early 60s pop ditty

Anyway The Wind Blows

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:32:27pm

Governments and laws derive their just powers from the consent of the governed.
If governments and laws are seen to be shams, the governed will withdraw their consent to both.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:33:20pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:34:37pm

re: #391 jaunte

Governments and laws derive their just powers from the consent of the governed.
If governments and laws are seen to be shams, the governed will withdraw their consent to both.

“Maybe you do not care much about the future of the Republican Party. You should. Conservatives will always be with us. If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy.”—David Frum.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:35:28pm
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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:35:48pm

re: #391 jaunte

Governments and laws derive their just powers from the consent of the governed.
If governments and laws are seen to be shams, the governed will withdraw their consent to both.

This. The only present restraint on further Trump/Republican steps toward a full dictatorship is the belief by the powers that be that this would be bad for business.

But what would make it bad for business is only the resulting political unrest. No unrest = no problems for the powers that be. Capitalism can do just fine with an arbitrarily repressive political system, as long as it’s basically right-wing.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:37:18pm

re: #394 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Lisa Murkowski’s name will forever be mud from this point forward. Like Santorum.

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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:37:40pm

re: #393 Anymouse 🌹🎃

“Maybe you do not care much about the future of the Republican Party. You should. Conservatives will always be with us. If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy.”—David Frum.

True. It’s also true that in a real clash between democracy and conservatism, the only acceptable outcome is a lot fewer conservative after their futile rebellion is thoroughly stamped out.

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gocart mozart  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:37:51pm
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jaunte  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:38:41pm
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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:39:09pm

re: #396 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Lisa Murkowski’s name will forever be mud from this point forward. Like Santorum.

All DC Republicans are shit. Even Mitch McConnell has at least a dozen equivalents in the Senate just as shitty as he is, who would have acted completely the same on every issue as McConnell did.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:44:25pm

re: #395 EPR-radar

We hear a lot about Trump breaking norms, but I think this Senate vote shows it’s the entire Republican establishment that’s gone down the might-is-right road. People obey laws mostly out of habit, not because we have enforcement on every corner. This is hugely corrosive to a civil society.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:45:45pm

re: #399 jaunte

Sasse was +55 and -26 (approve v disapprove) when he was elected here.

Morning Consult now has him at +45 and -35. Still a steep hill to climb but not impossible, plus he’s being primaried from the right by a card-carrying wingnut Trumper.

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Chrysicat  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:45:59pm

re: #399 jaunte

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:47:30pm

Corruption of the courts, not the OMG socialism boogeyman, is what leads to a crime- and bribe-ridden society like Venezuela today.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:50:40pm

re: #399 jaunte

All five of those are winnable.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:52:18pm

re: #406 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

All five of those are winnable.

And assuming no Democrats lose their seats, that flips the Senate.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 31, 2020 • 5:57:06pm
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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2020 • 6:04:30pm

re: #406 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

All five of those are winnable.

And can I hear an amen for Jaime Harrison? From December

Republican South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham is statistically tied with Democratic challenger Jaime Harrison, with the staunch pro-Trump incumbent seeing his favorability ratings plummet among independent voters.

Graham, who was first elected to the U.S. Senate in 2002, is clinging to a 2-percentage point lead over Harrison, 47 to 45 percent, with nearly 10 percent of voters surveyed still remaining undecided about their 2020 vote.

newsweek.com

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gocart mozart  Jan 31, 2020 • 6:11:20pm

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