An Excellent Solo Concert by Laura Marling in Her Living Room: Tiny Desk (Home) Concerts

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The Tiny Desk is working from home for the foreseeable future. Introducing NPR Music’s Tiny Desk (home) concerts, bringing you performances from across the country and the world. It’s the same spirit — stripped-down sets, an intimate setting — just a different space.

April 16, 2020 | Bob Boilen — While many artists have postponed the release of their new music in the face of the COVID-19 pandemic, Laura Marling rushed to change the release date of her album from late summer to April. On this Tiny Desk (home) concert, we find her in her living room, with an intimate performance of songs from her just-released record Songs For Our Daughter. The album is an homage to a future generation of women and to Maya Angelou’s Letter to My Daughter, a collection of essays addressed to a fictional daughter. The warm, home setting makes room for Laura Marling’s extraordinary voice to shine.

SET LIST
“Held Down”
“Strange Girl”
“Song For Our Daughter”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 16, 2020 • 7:48:07pm

The internets and companies relying on them are breaking for me tonight. Besides my hassles with the IRS website, a company I’m trying to contact that is supposed to be open isn’t taking my calls… and another company I’m trying to access seems to have their database down.

Our highly connected, highly complex society may not be so solid the more we stress it.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 16, 2020 • 7:49:01pm

OH HAI! I was off for 2 days, what did I miss?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 16, 2020 • 7:52:40pm

Left hanging a thread ago:

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Belafon  Apr 16, 2020 • 7:52:45pm

From yesterday:

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 16, 2020 • 7:53:11pm
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Ace-o-aces  Apr 16, 2020 • 7:54:09pm
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Dread Pirate  Apr 16, 2020 • 7:58:43pm

oops

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Dread Pirate  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:02:54pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:04:40pm

Holy Crap! This is my home county (Beaver) in Pennsylvania!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:05:25pm

I had thought that the Communist Party USA would be in hog-heaven now that capitalist pigdom has openly endorsed genocide for profit, but, no, they seem to have barely noticed.
One major concern, as always, is the effect of US sanctions on Cuba during the crisis. They also have an article denouncing the “capitalist concept” of social distancing, though they endorse the medically proven insistence on physical distance, which is about all anyone has asked for anyway.
Their swag store (run by the Swag Collective, for real) has a few nifty items, all union made of course, but on the whole it is rather sparsely stocked, sort of a zombie version of the infamous GUM department store in communist Moscow.
It is a source of endless, if dark, amusement that this earnest but clueless little club is the number one threat in the world in millions of wingnut minds.

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retired cynic  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:05:42pm

re: #9 Joe Bacon 🌹

Holy Crap! This is my home county (Beaver) in Pennsylvania!

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Holy cow! How awful!

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Jay C  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:13:51pm

re: #8 Dread Pirate

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Oh, crap! Coronavirus tests have a high false-negative rate?
And just as we were feeling assured….

Add: “We “ here means my wife and I: we got our tests a week ago when Mrs Jay had to be hospitalized. Though I guess the generalized “we” is applicable as well.

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gocart mozart  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:15:27pm
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Dave In Austin  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:18:23pm
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austin_blue  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:18:31pm

Too Late?

en.wikipedia.org

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teleskiguy  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:23:49pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:27:05pm

JFC

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Belafon  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:28:35pm

re: #17 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

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They should bring up gun deaths.

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William Lewis  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:30:55pm

re: #18 Belafon

They should bring up gun deaths.

First March in something like 18 years without a school shooting.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:31:20pm

re: #17 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

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These people are so fucking stupid. If I read the charts correctly we’ve had more deaths today from Covid-19 in the US than ever before. Why would you not wait until it at least appears to be going down. I know they don’t give a fuck, but their main problem is that they are too stupid to listen to themselves and figure out that that they sound heartless. Fuck em all.

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jaunte  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:31:27pm

re: #17 The Pie Overlord!

The big teevee doctors are really dragging themselves through the mud lately.

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teleskiguy  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:33:22pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:33:54pm

re: #21 jaunte

The big teevee doctors are really dragging themselves through the mud lately.

Goddamn, he was right about something!

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:34:43pm

Passover has passed over. My son is putting away the Passover stuff for next year and tomorrow I will bake challah. This year we will forego the traditional post-Passover pizza.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:34:52pm

Republicans still trying to find ways to cover for Comrade Combover:

Top Republicans call on Trump to fund WHO pending director-general’s resignation (The Hill)

Still trying to shift blame to WHO somehow, now by claiming it’s really Dr. Tedros’s fault, while still blaming China and WHO for their own failures.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:36:53pm

re: #22 teleskiguy

DT will try to get him into some sort of trouble.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:40:48pm

re: #6 Ace-o-aces

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Dave In Austin  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:41:13pm
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Belafon  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:42:05pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:42:47pm

Instagram

It’s that time of year when we normally put on our best spring ski gear and soak up some sun. Cheers to the eventual return to normal. Well, at least our version of normal, since 1938.⁣
⁣😎
📸: Alan Engen Ski History Collection, circa 1940⁣
#throwbackthursday #springskiing

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Belafon  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:43:07pm

re: #17 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

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Belafon  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:44:20pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:45:55pm
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Ace Rothstein  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:46:53pm

re: #17 The Pie Overlord!

You choose to drive, smoke, and swim.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:47:13pm

re: #34 Ace Rothstein

You choose to drive, smoke, and swim.

I’m doomed.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:48:08pm

re: #34 Ace Rothstein

You choose to drive, smoke, and swim.

At this point I think they are saying crazy shit just to get on TV. I’m going to bed I had enough of the nonsense for one week. Hoping tomorrow is better.

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Jay C  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:52:35pm

re: #20 I Would Prefer Not To

These people are so fucking stupid. If I read the charts correctly we’ve had more deaths today from Covid-19 in the US than ever before. Why would you not wait until it at least appears to be going down. I know they don’t give a fuck, but their main problem is that they are too stupid to listen to themselves and figure out that that they sound heartless. Fuck em all.

SRSLY. I know Phil McGraw isn’t an actual medical doctor (I don’t think), but he ought to be smart enough not to blather bad-statistic nonsense in public like that. Yeah, we don’t close down things for “automobile deaths”, but if our cars suddenly decided to turn on us and start killing thousands more drivers all at once, it might be smart to start locking down garages….

Someone should show Dr. Phil that chart showing the numbers of various causes of death (as a per-thousand rate) - diseases, accidents, etc. all display as relatively level lines over even a short timeframe: the COVID-19 rate, though, shoots up from zero at a steep peak like a Trump-recession stock chart in reverse.

Jeez! I’m virtually innumerate when it comes to statistics, and even I can see through that bullshit argument.

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Belafon  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:54:44pm
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bratwurst  Apr 16, 2020 • 8:56:39pm

One of the shocking effects of this virus is that is causes white men to think they are expert virologists.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 16, 2020 • 9:02:00pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 16, 2020 • 9:08:16pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 16, 2020 • 9:09:08pm
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austin_blue  Apr 16, 2020 • 9:10:25pm

re: #22 teleskiguy

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Meanwhile, tens of thousands of prisoners are being held in jails, not because they are convicted, but because they cannot make their bail. Shouldn’t other non-violent prisoners accused of crimes be released?

They are sitting in plague factories, awaiting trial.

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gocart mozart  Apr 16, 2020 • 9:15:28pm
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sagehen  Apr 16, 2020 • 9:22:28pm

re: #41 gocart mozart

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that’s… oddly disturbing.

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EPR-radar  Apr 16, 2020 • 9:23:08pm

re: #43 austin_blue

Meanwhile, tens of thousands of prisoners are being held in jails, not because they are convicted, but because they cannot make their bail. Shouldn’t other non-violent prisoners accused of crimes be released?

They are sitting in plague factories, awaiting trial.

From an arch-conservative point of view, this is the system working as it should. Being poor is a sign of god’s disfavor to the prosperity gospel crowd, therefore society should help these sinners get to hell expeditiously.

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Citizen K  Apr 16, 2020 • 9:27:56pm
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Jack Burton  Apr 16, 2020 • 9:31:19pm

re: #47 Citizen K

With “friends” like these…

I’m getting real tired of these Unicorn Hunters that are completely ignorant of how things actually work.

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austin_blue  Apr 16, 2020 • 9:34:59pm

re: #46 EPR-radar

From an arch-conservative point of view, this is the system working as it should. Being poor is a sign of gods’ disfavor to the prosperity gospel crowd, therefore society should help these sinners get to hell expeditiously.

I know. It’s also evil for someone like Cohen, a convicted felon who helped usurp a US election in 2016, to be released from prison because he *might* become infected while serving his well deserved sentence, while poor people languish, before trial, to die in custody.

Evil. It’s disgusting.

I’m out. Good night. May flights of scaly angels sing thee to thy rest.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 16, 2020 • 9:35:37pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 16, 2020 • 9:39:17pm

re: #40 Dread Pirate

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There’s some dispute over whether young Phil McGraw actually played for the University of Tulsa football team in their infamous 100-6 loss to Houston in 1968 but, given the result, it seems at least plausible. Phil played linebacker btw.

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gocart mozart  Apr 16, 2020 • 9:49:20pm

Glenn makes a joke that isn’t bad. I don’t recognize the world anymore.

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Jack Burton  Apr 16, 2020 • 9:52:26pm

re: #52 gocart mozart

Being an Russian agent doesn’t necessarily rule out even a slight sense of humor.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 16, 2020 • 9:58:20pm

Explaining the Pandemic to my Past Self

Explaining the Pandemic to my Past Self

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 16, 2020 • 9:58:39pm

re: #16 teleskiguy

PUT IT DIRECTLY IN MY VEINSSSSSSS

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 16, 2020 • 10:01:31pm

re: #10 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Heh. Yeah, not exactly a great selection…..Cthulhu for President has much better selection in their store.

Nonetheless, the one thing I did like was their “Billionaires Are Thieves” mug.

cpusaswag.myshopify.com

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piratedan  Apr 16, 2020 • 10:02:54pm

re: #12 Jay C

will try and answer some questions and dispel some possible misconceptions about how this process works out and why there’s such tremendous wiggle room in both the numbers and what they can supposedly mean…

First my bonafides… I work as support staff for a hospital laboratory system in the pacific NW and have been working in laboratory software since 1990, now I am not a bench tech or a microbiologist, what I do is build the software tests that they use, support the software that they use and help them in reporting said test results to the lab application and then from there, those results go to a fair number of places…

So, first of all, not all tests are created equally, there’s a huge difference in just what testing protocol would be adopted and what media and methodology would be used to result it. Never mind the fuckups from the current administration as to what test would be used or simply adopting the WHO protocol that was out there because these guys are the fuckups that they are…

In short, there are clinical tests and there are “clinical tests”… the biggie testing item that was promoted to a fare thee well was that Abbott Laboratories had developed a Point of Care testing methodology for COVID-19, the thing is, POC testing is not nearly as accurate as testing run inside a laboratory itself, namely because of the differences in the media and the markers that are used to identify a positive versus a negative result. POC is great for a snapshot of your glucose levels or if you’re pregnant but beyond that… its never been done for anything like microbiology worth a damn because micro is a bit more involved, since your counting and classifying cell types. Doing that takes expertise and training or a rather sophisticated instrument to handle it once a sample is prepared for analysis.

so if a POC test is a snap shot, a clinical laboratory test done by an accredited lab is like a film short… sure you can tell a lot about a single picture, but context and depth are much more likely with a longer look at something and while you can have a 55-60% accuracy from a POC test, you’re getting a roughly 90%+ rating from something that is run thru a clinical instrument, more chemical markers are checked and cross referenced, more cells are examined and evaluated, hence the result is more accurate, again, not perfect, but much better. It takes longer to process, but just like most things, do you want good, fast or accurate. the POC test is fast, not necessarily accurate.

as more facilities get the permission to run their own tests in house, the speed of this will improve , anecdotally prior to COVID-19, flu tests sent to a reference lab or a department of health facility had a routine turn-around time of 3-5 days because they only ran them twice a week. Now, with the demand being so high, the turn around is quicker. As always the bottleneck is not enough kits and the human element of sample handling and identification being possible issues. Plus, there’s the issue of who is going to pay and how to be reimbursed. We also have the issues of the instruments being used now being run 24/7 and the maintenance needed to maintain them and the reagents used by the instruments to handle the workload of the processing.

the other issue with this damn virus is that the length that it can lurk without any symptoms, especially in those that are healthy and are carriers… If we’re talking realistically, we’re looking at like two weeks of being asymptomatic while you are a potential carrier, infecting who knows how many people unknowingly. So a snap shot may show you as being negative, when you;re really positive because its only a snap shot, so you merrily go along and infect other people thing that you’re cleared, really insidious. So yeah, that’s the clinical challenge we’re facing and how do you try and square that with everyone in today’s immediate gratification society being what it is…

Just hoping that the pressure from the most idiotic among us gets ignored by those with the power to do so, namely because these fucking people are stupid and are generally stupid about every fucking thing as well… hell, they’re the same SOB’s who voted this asshat into office, so I would trust their authority and knowledge about these things accordingly.

and my apologies for being away so long, but as might expect… work has been busy

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 16, 2020 • 10:21:37pm

Viva l’Orchestra : La valse n°2 de Chostakovitch avec l’Orchestre National de France

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 16, 2020 • 10:36:09pm

re: #17 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

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Nice to see both assholes brought into the public arena by Oprah appear on Fox to recite GOP talking points…

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teleskiguy  Apr 16, 2020 • 10:53:43pm
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Ace-o-aces  Apr 16, 2020 • 11:05:24pm
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 16, 2020 • 11:12:56pm

Looks like Brazil’s nutburger President Bolsonaro has sacked his Health Minister, Dr. Luiz Henrique Mandetta.

Brazil’s President Jair Bolsonaro fired his health minister on Thursday after a series of disagreements over government efforts to contain the new coronavirus. “I just heard from the President Jair Bolsonaro the news of my dismissal from the health ministry,” Luiz Henrique Mandetta posted on his verified Twitter profile, adding that he wished success to his replacement, who is yet to be named officially. He confirmed the announcement in a press conference later.

Mandetta, a doctor, garnered popular support for his pandemic response that included promotion of broad isolation measures enacted by state governors. Bolsonaro, for his part, repeatedly characterized the virus as a “little flu,” said shutting down the economy would cause more damage than confining only high-risk Brazilians, and touted the yet-unproven efficacy of an anti-malarial drug.

Republicans close to the White House say Trump has complained about Fauci’s positive media attention and sought to leave him out of task force briefings. Bolsonaro, likewise, had convened doctors without inviting Mandetta and, in a televised interview earlier this month, said Mandetta had failed to show “humility.” A few days later, on April 5, Bolsonaro told a group of supporters that he would act against officials in his government who “are full of themselves.”

time.com

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Targetpractice  Apr 16, 2020 • 11:14:35pm

re: #61 Ace-o-aces

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You know that one character in a horror film that thinks the rest of the group are being ridiculous for taking caution and trying avoid obvious danger? The one who sees something they want (sweets/shiny trinkets/luxury goods/etc) out in the open and so goes to grab it, only to find herself ripped to shreds by the monsters/zombies/crazies/etc?

That’s Canned Ass.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2020 • 11:28:46pm

re: #19 William Lewis

First March in something like 18 years without a school shooting.

I checked stats on that, and it seems true although there was nearly one mass shooting per day in March, none of them happened at a school.

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unproven innocence  Apr 16, 2020 • 11:36:46pm

More evidence that many Covid-19 infections are going unnoticed: Coronavirus clue? Most cases aboard U.S. aircraft carrier are symptom-free
Phil Stewart, Idrees Ali
Excerpt(s):

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Sweeping testing of the entire crew of the coronavirus-stricken U.S. aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt may have revealed a clue about the pandemic: The majority of the positive cases so far are among sailors who are asymptomatic, officials say.
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Roughly 60 percent of the over 600 sailors who tested positive so far have not shown symptoms of COVID-19, the potentially lethal respiratory disease caused by the coronavirus, the Navy says. The service did not speculate about how many might later develop symptoms or remain asymptomatic.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 16, 2020 • 11:36:59pm

The important question of these times is…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2020 • 11:42:07pm

re: #66 Dread Pirate

The important question of these times is…

I believe there are any number of sites where you can find plenty of both…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 17, 2020 • 12:12:05am

I think he blew it.

“Pierre Cardin Reveals New Look for Nurses”—AP, 1970, silent film, 0:40)

SYND 26-10-70 PIERRE CARDIN REVEALS NEW LOOK FOR NURSES

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Dread Pirate  Apr 17, 2020 • 12:23:37am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 17, 2020 • 12:34:29am

Unlike our government’s thieves, at least China paid for it.

As the coronavirus took hold in Wuhan earlier this year, staff from the Chinese government-backed global property giant Greenland Group were instructed to put their normal work on hold and source bulk supplies of essential medical items to ship back to China.

A whistleblower from the company has told the Herald it was a worldwide Greenland effort - and the Sydney office was no different, sourcing bulk supplies of surgical masks, thermometers, antibacterial wipes, hand sanitisers, gloves and Panadol for shipping.

The company even posted its efforts of packing pallets in the company’s Sydney headquarters on social media.

(more)

Chinese-backed company’s mission to source Australian medical supplies (Goes to the Sydney Morning Herald)

The company in question is Greenland Group, a worldwide real estate acquisition group.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 17, 2020 • 12:39:57am

Grand Island’s rate of COVID-19 cases is higher than Michigan’s, close to Louisiana’s (Omaha World-Herald)

The Grand Island area — by far Nebraska’s biggest coronavirus hot spot — now has rates of illness comparable to some of the hardest-hit states in the country.

Not only does surrounding Hall County now have more cases than any county in Nebraska, its per capita case rate is almost 12 times that of Douglas County and more than 25 times that of Lancaster County, a World-Herald analysis found.

(more)

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teleskiguy  Apr 17, 2020 • 12:45:29am
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Dread Pirate  Apr 17, 2020 • 1:28:06am
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electrotek  Apr 17, 2020 • 1:29:53am

This pandemic has made me nostalgic for the 2008/2009 recession days. Geez.

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Targetpractice  Apr 17, 2020 • 1:36:34am

*facepalm*

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Dread Pirate  Apr 17, 2020 • 1:48:47am
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2020 • 1:49:01am

re: #74 electrotek

This pandemic has made me nostalgic for the 2008/2009 recession days. Geez.

I think the global recession (or maybe even depression) from this pandemic is gonna be one for the history books.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 17, 2020 • 1:50:51am

re: #64 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I checked stats on that, and it seems true although there was nearly one mass shooting per day in March, none of them happened at a school.

Shoot-at-Home Orders Work!!

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Targetpractice  Apr 17, 2020 • 1:51:59am

re: #77 Dr Lizardo

I think the global recession (or maybe even depression) from this pandemic is gonna be one for the history books.

Hence the desperation evident in the voices of those arguing that we just throw open the doors and “reopen” at the end of the month. They know that if we get to Election Day and we’re in the midst of a recession or even a depression, then Donny’s chance of reelection, let alone those of many Republicans on Capital Hill, will be lower than a snake’s balls. Hence why they’re prepared to sacrifice whoever they have to (children, the elderly, workers) on the Altar of the Magic Line.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 17, 2020 • 1:57:00am

re: #79 Targetpractice

Hence the desperation evident in the voices of those arguing that we just throw open the doors and “reopen” at the end of the month. They know that if we get to Election Day and we’re in the midst of a recession or even a depression, then Donny’s chance of reelection, let alone those of many Republicans on Capital Hill, will be lower than a snake’s balls. Hence why they’re prepared to sacrifice whoever they have to (children, the elderly, workers) on the Altar of the Magic Line.

Wife and I have discussed it, and we would rather not die to improve his re-election chances. Perhaps, if he were more likeable…

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Dread Pirate  Apr 17, 2020 • 1:57:11am

re: #75 Targetpractice

*facepalm*

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2020 • 1:57:57am

re: #79 Targetpractice

If we end up with a ~20% unemployment rate by Election Day, the GOP is probably going to suffer an electoral blowout the like of which hasn’t been seen in a generation or more.

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Targetpractice  Apr 17, 2020 • 1:58:46am

re: #81 Dread Pirate

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Decatur Deb  Apr 17, 2020 • 1:59:16am

re: #82 Dr Lizardo

If we end up with a ~20% unemployment rate by Election Day, the GOP is probably going to suffer an electoral blowout the like of which hasn’t been seen in a generation or more.

Unemployment is a hoax staged by crisis actors.

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sagehen  Apr 17, 2020 • 2:01:49am

re: #82 Dr Lizardo

If we end up with a ~20% unemployment rate by Election Day, the GOP is probably going to suffer an electoral blowout the like of which hasn’t been seen in a generation or more.

If a D president is sworn in with significant D majorities in the House and Senate during a depression… isn’t that how the New Deal happened?

Socialism, here we come.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 17, 2020 • 2:06:03am

re: #85 sagehen

If a D president is sworn in with significant D majorities in the House and Senate during a depression… isn’t that how the New Deal happened?

Socialism, here we come.

Do we have to write new songs, or can we stick with Woody, Cisco, and Pete?

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teleskiguy  Apr 17, 2020 • 2:07:19am

*dons tinfoil hat*

What if the second wave of coronavirus infections coming after we “open up the country” convinces William Barr, Fuckface Von Clownstick, and their far-right minions in Congress and the Supreme Court to cancel the election?

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Decatur Deb  Apr 17, 2020 • 2:08:18am

Cisco Houston - Trouble In Mind

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 17, 2020 • 2:08:31am

My wife says she keeps getting junk E-mails saying someone wants to buy her home at 3448 Crosswinds Drive.

She can’t quite figure out the particular scam here, except maybe phishing, since there is no such street in the whole Nebraska Panhandle.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 17, 2020 • 2:08:59am

re: #87 teleskiguy

*dons tinfoil hat*

What if the second wave of coronavirus infections coming after we “open up the country” convinces William Barr, Fuckface Von Clownstick, and their far-right minions in Congress and the Supreme Court to cancel the election?

Then the shit gets weird.

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sagehen  Apr 17, 2020 • 2:10:29am

re: #87 teleskiguy

*dons tinfoil hat*

What if the second wave of coronavirus infections coming after we “open up the country” convinces William Barr, Fuckface Von Clownstick, and their far-right minions in Congress and the Supreme Court to cancel the election?

we’ve been through this.

The federal government doesn’t run the election. States do.

Are there 270 EV worth of states with Trumper governors and compliant Trumper state legislatures?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 17, 2020 • 2:19:35am

Exchange Student’s Parents Ship 500 Masks From China To Manor (Goes to the Western Nebraska Observer, Kimball’s newspaper).

Kimball High School foreign exchange student Carina Chen’s parents in Shanghai, China, sent a special package to help Kimball County Manor get through the coronavirus pandemic.

Carina is the foreign exchange student who is living in Kimball with Dawn Hickman, Noah and Bob Hinton. She was telling her parents that some of the employees from the Kimball County Manor were having to wear their masks for more than a day at a time because the supplies were so limited. [Kimball County Manor is a convalescent home]

Carina said her parents “know some manufacturers” and were able to ship a lot of 500 masks for the manor. Originally they were going to send 1,000, but due to the customs regulations they reduced the number of masks.

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Carina notes her parents say that Shanghai is about back to normal now.

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ericblair  Apr 17, 2020 • 2:23:27am

re: #91 sagehen

we’ve been through this.

The federal government doesn’t run the election. States do.

Are there 270 EV worth of states with Trumper governors and compliant Trumper state legislatures?

If Alabama doesn’t want to send their congressional delegation and electoral votes to Congress, that’s their decision.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 17, 2020 • 2:26:53am
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Targetpractice  Apr 17, 2020 • 2:27:09am

re: #91 sagehen

we’ve been through this.

The federal government doesn’t run the election. States do.

Are there 270 EV worth of states with Trumper governors and compliant Trumper state legislatures?

Wouldn’t matter, those states would have to rewrite their electoral laws to cancel the popular vote and have the legislature appoint its own electors. And there are enough red states with Dem governors that that would never work.

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ericblair  Apr 17, 2020 • 2:37:39am

re: #95 Targetpractice

Wouldn’t matter, those states would have to rewrite their electoral laws to cancel the popular vote and have the legislature appoint its own electors. And there are enough red states with Dem governors that that would never work.

Then you get to the 14th Amendment:

Section 2.
Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state.

So congratulations, you just wiped out your entire Congressional delegations, automatically, if you have the state government appoint electors or congresscritters. It looks like this would include any Senators not up for election as well.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2020 • 2:39:52am

re: #93 ericblair

If Alabama doesn’t want to send their congressional delegation and electoral votes to Congress, that’s their decision.

Exactly. And if they then start screaming that they’re not being represented, or that they’ve been disenfranchised, then Alabama can kindly sit down and STFU.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 17, 2020 • 2:44:08am

re: #94 Dave In Austin

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 17, 2020 • 2:47:51am

If Hillary Clinton Made Coronavirus In A Bathtub In Wuhan, TRUMP GON’ FIND OUT! (You can probably guess this article comes from Wonkette based on the headline)

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2020 • 2:48:44am

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Dawn of the Dumb.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 17, 2020 • 3:03:11am

Driftglass:

Just as sure as President Stupid’s administration damn well knew months ago that COVID-19 was a lethal threat to this country but chose to lie about it — to pretend it was a Democratic hoax or that it was a trivial thing, no worse than the flu — until it was far, far too late…

…so too did your new Never Trump Republican friends know damn well that the base of their party was a toxic shitpile of bigots and imbeciles but chose to lie about it — to pretend it was all crackpot Libtard alarmism or that it didn’t matter because Both Sides Did It — until it was far, far too late:

We used to keep them in the basement.

— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) April 17, 2020

Because of course they knew.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Apr 17, 2020 • 3:16:01am

re: #80 Decatur Deb

Wife and I have discussed it, and we would rather not die to improve his re-election chances. Perhaps, if he were more likeable…

Maybe he should smile more.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 17, 2020 • 3:17:11am

re: #102 Grunthos the Flatulent

Maybe he should smile more.

He has a nice Vogon smile.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 17, 2020 • 3:17:47am

The Divine Right of Trumps (Goes to The Rude Pundit, I wonder what he really thinks, more at the link):

Something Donald Trump said last week has just stuck in my craw. Well, to be fair, every goddamn word out of that shit-ogre’s mouth sticks in my craw. My craw is fuckin’ full. But this is a little snippet that got no attention whatsoever, but just seems to me to indicate exactly how perverse this entire depressing situation has always been.

Last Tuesday, on April 7, prior to jacking off for the media at his Coronavirus Task Force presser, Trump held the “Small Business Relief Update Meeting,” another session where he gets his balls massaged by having everyone tell him how awesome his awesomeness is. In his introductory remarks, prior to lying again about the number of jobs his daughter/genetic spank bank Ivanka has created, Trump said this: “My daughter, Ivanka Trump, who just wants to have people working. That’s what — I gave her lots of options, and - ‘What do you like?’” And then he went on to lie-brag, “She started off with a goal of 500,000 jobs, and now she’s up to over 15 million.”

Look at what he’s admitting there. The motherfuckin’ president of the United States, who is elected and doesn’t inherit the position, said that he asked his daughter, “What do you want to do in my administration?” Not what was she qualified for. And, honestly, all she’s qualified to do is be the mascot for a company of cheap knock-offs of other designers’ work and putting her stupid name it. A person with any self-awareness would have said, “Oh, that’s okay. I’m just gonna keep on abusing sweatshop workers.” But, no, in this telling, Ivanka said, “Daddy, I wish to work on getting Americans jobs.” It’s not just that the whole story is a lie (really, Ivanka’s there to make sure Donald doesn’t shit himself and keel over). It’s that the lie is disturbing as fuck: The president let his daughter choose her job in the White House, like a toy at FAO Schwarz.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Apr 17, 2020 • 3:20:37am

re: #103 Decatur Deb

He has a nice Vogon smile.

Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz objects to the comparison.

He also wants to read you some of his poetry.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 17, 2020 • 3:26:13am

re: #105 Grunthos the Flatulent

Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz objects to the comparison.

He also wants to read you some of his poetry.

As soon as I finish this rather large anthology of Paula Jennings.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 17, 2020 • 3:59:48am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 17, 2020 • 4:02:59am

Why aren’t these people in jail? This is crazy even for Lou Dobbs, and that’s saying a lot.

(video, 2:04)

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Ming5000  Apr 17, 2020 • 4:14:15am

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹🏡

And MAGAs across the land are going to be spouting this nonsense, and media will spend countless hours exploring, “Did the Chinese Military use Corona-19 as a Biological Weapon?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 17, 2020 • 4:15:03am

re: #109 Ming5000

And MAGAs across the land are going to be spouting this nonsense, and media will spend countless hours exploring, “Did the Chinese Military use Corona-19 as a Biological Weapon?”

And why did the Chinese and the Deep State hide the extent of the pandemic from Trump?

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 17, 2020 • 4:19:43am

re: #17 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 17, 2020 • 4:27:43am

re: #109 Ming5000

And MAGAs across the land are going to be spouting this nonsense, and media will spend countless hours exploring, “Did the Chinese Military use Corona-19 as a Biological Weapon?”

I was speaking to my cousin last night on the telephone, and she brought that up.

She is not a conservative, but that bullshyte claim is sinking into general discussion.

I disabused her of the notion (Really? China would unleash a bioweapon on its own population to attack the USA? How does that work?)

Unlike a conservative, bring up the cognitive dissonance of a claim and she’ll drop the idea.

This is the cousin who voted for Jill Stein in 2016 in Michigan because “I just can’t trust that woman.” She says she won’t make the same mistake now, and is all in on Joe Biden.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 17, 2020 • 4:28:51am

US alerted Israel, NATO to disease outbreak in China in November — report (The Times of Israel):

US intelligence agencies alerted Israel to the coronavirus outbreak in China already in November, Israeli television reported Thursday.

According to Channel 12 news, the US intelligence community became aware of the emerging disease in Wuhan in the second week of that month and drew up a classified document.

Information on the disease outbreak was not in the public domain at that stage — and was known only apparently to the Chinese government.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 17, 2020 • 4:29:55am

re: #111 Eventual Carrion

Q: What do you call someone who graduated dead last in the class in medical school?
A: Doctor.

that person still knows more about medicine than someone who just downlaods medical sites fro the Internet

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BigPapa  Apr 17, 2020 • 4:30:29am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 4:30:38am

Lindsey and the RS new argument…we’re better than nothing:

Moments later, Graham redefined what a successful federal response will look like by saying that he believes if the president had “just let it play out, there would be a couple million Americans dead.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 17, 2020 • 4:33:32am

WHO controversy is another red herring.

The point is that

a) he fired the Pandemic Response team
b) he called it a “hoax”
c) he said it would go away in April “like a miracle”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 17, 2020 • 4:34:41am

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

WHO controversy is another red herring.

The point is that

a) he fired the Pandemic Response team
b) he called it a “hoax”
c) he said it would go away in April “like a miracle”

They have to keep lying to protect their faith. It’s literally all a conservative has when faced with facts.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 17, 2020 • 4:50:27am

The liberal war on Christmas, 102 years ago.

In the western Nebraska town of Gering, Santa Claus was actually arrested when he was swarmed by local youngsters following his arrival at the Union Pacific train station for an appearance at a local store. Children pooled their money to pay his fine, reported Kristin Watkins in her 2015 master’s thesis from the University of Nebraska Medical Center, “It Came Across the Plains: The 1918 Influenza Pandemic in Rural Nebraska.”

Panic buying, bans on large crowds: Omaha went through this before when Spanish flu hit in 1918 (Omaha World-Herald, on what Omaha did to try to stop the flu pandemic of 1918-1920)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 17, 2020 • 4:53:56am

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹🏡

My wife says she keeps getting junk E-mails saying someone wants to buy her home at 3448 Crosswinds Drive.

She can’t quite figure out the particular scam here, except maybe phishing, since there is no such street in the whole Nebraska Panhandle.

Phishing, or “3448 Crosswinds” is a secret code word indicating that the secret forces of Conservatism are gathering for the coup that will sweep away the last remnants of the old republic so that Emperor Donald I can reign unhindered.
//

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 17, 2020 • 4:58:42am

re: #109 Ming5000

And MAGAs across the land are going to be spouting this nonsense, and media will spend countless hours exploring, “Did the Chinese Military use Corona-19 as a Biological Weapon?”

And you know what? It *doesn’t matter* regarding the clusterfuck response by the Trump Administration towards this pandemic and the threat of them in general whether the virus was directly at that wet market, got there via a lab, or was engineered.

These claims are a bit of stupid distraction. (And if any of my Facebook “friends” start spouting it I’m ripping them a new one.)

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 17, 2020 • 5:04:51am

Not if you’re a Conservative.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 17, 2020 • 5:06:58am

“loss of our way of life” in the sense of “1% of the population owning 40% of the country’s wealth”?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 17, 2020 • 5:12:26am

Okie dokie.

During a protest against Gov. Andy Beshear’s coronavirus-related restrictions on businesses Wednesday evening, Lewis made his way through the crowd and was seen speaking to some of the protesters. He was not among the speakers at the event.

So now, all the police, ambulance workers and hospital personal - not to mention all the people in the jail - are potentially impacted by one Republican asshat.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2020 • 5:13:01am

re: #109 Ming5000

And MAGAs across the land are going to be spouting this nonsense, and media will spend countless hours exploring, “Did the Chinese Military use Corona-19 as a Biological Weapon?”

SARS-CoV-2 would be pretty useless as a biological weapon. If it had a CFR on the order of 80%, then it’d be a different story. And what, was the Chinese military just field testing it in Wuhan or something? LOL.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 17, 2020 • 5:16:19am

re: #125 Dr Lizardo

SARS-CoV-2 would be pretty useless as a biological weapon. If it had a CFR on the order of 80%, then it’d be a different story. And what, was the Chinese military just field testing it in Wuhan or something? LOL.

That is not the point, it is the Chinese virus, and they are our enemies, get it?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 17, 2020 • 5:18:29am
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2020 • 5:21:36am

re: #126 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is not the point, it is the Chinese virus, and they are our enemies, get it?

That’s how they’ll spin it.

A couple of years ago, I regaled a group of students with the story of the 1979 Sverdlosk anthrax incident, when some weaponized Anthrax 836 leaked out of a bioweapons research facility. Officially, it killed a little over 100 people but the true death toll remains unknown; all records of the incident, including hospital records, were destroyed by the KGB. They thought I was just telling tall tales until one of them looked it up, and then they weren’t laughing anymore.

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Targetpractice  Apr 17, 2020 • 5:23:28am

re: #125 Dr Lizardo

SARS-CoV-2 would be pretty useless as a biological weapon. If it had a CFR on the order of 80%, then it’d be a different story. And what, was the Chinese military just field testing it in Wuhan or something? LOL.

The general “theory” is that the Chinese intended the virus’ release on the US population as a way to scare Trump into backing down. Wuhan? They think it was either a test run or that it was an accidental release that Beijing tried to cover up. And (of course) they believe that all the research showing this virus came about naturally and crossed the animal-human barrier is manufactured, that the WHO is actively helping Beijing in the cover-up and that’s why Trump is angry with them.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 17, 2020 • 5:24:09am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 17, 2020 • 5:28:07am
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2020 • 5:29:56am

re: #131 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Well, well, well…..looks like the great state of Virginia has a new hotzone. Well done, Jerry, Jr.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 17, 2020 • 5:31:06am

Mother Earth really wants to do away with us.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 17, 2020 • 5:39:11am

hubs told me about this yesterday and there’s practically no mention anywhere. It’s NYT so I have little access but…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 17, 2020 • 5:43:07am

re: #134 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

hubs told me about this yesterday and there’s practically no mention anywhere. It’s NYT so I have little access but…

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A source close to the president predicted that Meadows, as the fourth chief of staff of Trump’s presidency, may be headed for one of the briefest tenures in a revolving-door West Wing known for quick exits. “Act four could be the shortest one yet,” said the source, who is a friend to Meadows.

Hmmm… Will Meadow Micro-Minutes replace Scaramucci Seconds?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 17, 2020 • 5:49:07am

You know, if Lourdes was actually a place of healing, why would they shut it down now?

Coronavirus: Lourdes shrine closes temporarily (Goes to the Vatican News Service)

For the first time since it opened, the Shrine of Our Lady of Lourdes in France will temporarily close its gates from midday, 17 March. This closure is in adherence to the measures taken by the French government to curtail the spread of coronavirus in the country. France presently has over 6500 confirmed cases of coronavirus infection. The Shrine’s website had already announced on 28 February that “as a precaution, the pools have been closed until further notice”.

The Rector of the Shrine, Msgr. Ribadeau Dumas made the announcement through a message published on Twitter. “For the first time in its history, the shrine will close its doors for some time,” he announced.

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lawhawk  Apr 17, 2020 • 5:49:39am

re: #23 teleskiguy

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 17, 2020 • 5:50:49am

re: #136 Anymouse 🌹🏡

You know, if Lourdes was actually a place of healing, why would they shut it down now?

Nailed it.

Sick superstition.

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Jay C  Apr 17, 2020 • 5:58:30am

re: #134 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

True that the NYT paywall is a PITA, but that article was just a basic rehash of what we already know: ETTD. Nut graf, IMO:

But administration officials say he has been overwhelmed at times by a permanent culture at the White House that revolves around the president’s moods, his desire to present a veneer of strength and his need for a sense of control. It is why, no matter who serves as chief of staff, the lack of formal processes and the constant infighting are unavoidable facts of life for those working for Mr. Trump.

Even though the article cites Meadows’ ex-colleagues as praising his get-along abilities (FreeDumb Caucus stalwart though he was), the idea that - for anybody - working in the Trump WH is a dead-end shitshow with no good outcomes is pretty inescapable.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:06:03am

re: #137 lawhawk

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lawhawk  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:07:10am

re: #139 Jay C

Trumpworld was, is, and will forever be, a shitshow and a bastion of incompetence, unqualified sycophancy, and unmitigated evil. They don’t give a shit about anyone or anything other than their own enrichment.

Meadows is in over his head. Fuck him. He deserves to be ground to dust over this and all he’s ever done.

ETTD? Yeah, that’s not helpful. GOP delenda est is. Destroy the enabling and complicit GOP who have covered up Trump crimes and are responsible for the situation we now face.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:08:17am

re: #140 Patricia Kayden

Richard Marx with conservative douchecanoes on Twitter (4:22)

Richard Marx - Right Here Waiting

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lawhawk  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:10:25am
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jeffreyw  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:13:11am

Backyard Bobcat

Good morning!

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:15:15am
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Belafon  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:15:42am

re: #85 sagehen

If a D president is sworn in with significant D majorities in the House and Senate during a depression… isn’t that how the New Deal happened?

Socialism, here we come.

Yep, complete with a Supreme Court that will be hostile to anything they try.

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Belafon  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:16:40am

re: #87 teleskiguy

*dons tinfoil hat*

What if the second wave of coronavirus infections coming after we “open up the country” convinces William Barr, Fuckface Von Clownstick, and their far-right minions in Congress and the Supreme Court to cancel the election?

THEY. CANNOT. CANCEL. THE. ELECTION. SINCE. IT’S. RUN. BY. THE. STATES.

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lawhawk  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:18:56am

States that haven’t already moved to make vote by mail a reality, need to consider doing so now, ahead of November (or the primaries that have been shifted due to covid19 limitations). It’ll be a sea change in how we vote, but one that prioritizes public involvement instead of the current mess that disenfranchises people due to limited polling places, long lines, and results in civic disengagement, voter suppression, and enables the GOP to remain in power despite continually getting fewer votes across elections.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:19:04am

Panhandle Public Health District reports the only Covid-19 case in my county, a woman in her seventies, has recovered and has returned home from the hospital.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:31:24am

re: #143 lawhawk

And nothing of value was lost.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:34:24am

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

Zero Hedge, which had more than 670,000 followers, was permanently suspended from Twitter

670,000 idjits now have to go find another source for unfounded conspiracy theories

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Jay C  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:35:31am

re: #151 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

670,000 idjits now have to go find another source for unfounded conspiracy theories

And they will probably run into very few problems in finding one.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:36:32am

starherald.com

In what may have been the first trial of its kind in Nebraska, an up-and-coming teen girl who was training to become an Olympian and alleged she was sexually assaulted by her female teacher in a private school, saw the teacher tried entirely over the Internet.

The teacher was convicted and sentenced to thirty years.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:38:58am

Good day for seastacks I think. As for Sleestaks, it might depend on how vulnerable they are to COVID-19.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:40:05am

re: #151 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There’s always Trump’s account.

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John Hughes  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:40:45am

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Nebraska, North Carolina, like more or less the same place, right?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:43:49am

re: #139 Jay C

Even though the article cites Meadows’ ex-colleagues as praising his get-along abilities (FreeDumb Caucus stalwart though he was), the idea that - for anybody - working in the Trump WH is a dead-end shitshow with no good outcomes is pretty inescapable.

Good. Bye Meadows.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:46:19am

re: #156 John Hughes

Nebraska, North Carolina, like more or less the same place, right?

LOL.

They have water along their beach, we have sandhills and more sandhills. There hasn’t been an ocean here in 23 million years (give or take a few weeks).

Western Interior Seaway (goes to Wikipedia)

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Dr. Matt  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:49:13am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:49:27am

re: #151 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

670,000 idjits now have to go find another source for unfounded conspiracy theories

Q is waiting with open arms.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:51:45am

re: #160 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Q is waiting with open arms.

Q already knows what they want to hear, remember?

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lawhawk  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:52:04am

re: #151 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

670,000 idjits now have to go find another source for unfounded conspiracy theories

So, infowars, Q, and Trump/GOP via OAN?

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Dr. Matt  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:52:11am

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

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And nothing of value was lost.

If they only applied those same standards to IMPOTUS, Nunes, foxtard hosts, and the millions of magats out there…..

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:53:39am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 6:55:14am

re: #141 lawhawk

Trumpworld was, is, and will forever be, a shitshow and a bastion of incompetence, unqualified sycophancy, and unmitigated evil. They don’t give a shit about anyone or anything other than their own enrichment.

Meadows is in over his head. Fuck him. He deserves to be ground to dust over this and all he’s ever done.

ETTD? Yeah, that’s not helpful. GOP delenda est is. Destroy the enabling and complicit GOP who have covered up Trump crimes and are responsible for the situation we now face.

The gaslight presidency

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:00:20am

Passover ended last night, but tonight is Shabbat! This means I have to bake CHALLAH.

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jaunte  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:00:29am
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Dr. Matt  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:01:21am

Floriduh’s finest

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:03:43am

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:07:27am

re: #166 The Pie Overlord!

Passover ended last night, but tonight is Shabbat! This means I have to bake CHALLAH.

I need a good bake. Recipe? I’ve never had luck with yeast. Like… Never. But whatever, I’ll try again.

I saw an essay recipe for Passover sponge cake. I’m going to try that.

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Teukka  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:09:26am

So this passed by in one discord…

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:14:10am

Seeing nuts comparing the resistance to reopening the economy; e.g. “we are not willing to die for your convenience” to people being willing to abort babies for their own convenience. Yes, strawman after strawman all the way down, and zero empathy attached as well.

Some of the same group all upset that California is using funds to help out illegal immigrants that the virus has hurt. Money not being distributed directly, but via a network of non-profits and in combination with funds raised by charities. Once again, zero empathy, just kneejerk sociopathy from who some who I know are fairly religious in their personal beliefs. (Tempted to toss some Bible references their way since even the Devil can quote scripture when it serves his purposes.)

Edit: Story they’re quoting is from a Fox station, so without further investigation it might well be inaccurate or putting an outrage spin upon it at well.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:17:08am
…”unemployment rate” measures the percentage of Americans who are looking for a job, but don’t have one. At the moment, however, most out-of-work people aren’t actually looking, either because they expect/hope to return to their old jobs, or they fear for their health, or both…take the 22 million unemployment claims and add them to the 5 million or so people who were already on unemployment when this whole thing began, then the real unemployment rate is around 16%. If we add another 3 million people per week through the end of the month, then the real unemployment rate will be around 20%, which is approaching Great Depression levels. Worth keeping in mind when BLS announces a figure of 6% or so in a couple of weeks.

electoral-vote.com

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:20:06am

re: #129 Targetpractice

The general “theory” is that the Chinese intended the virus’ release on the US population as a way to scare Trump into backing down. Wuhan? They think it was either a test run or that it was an accidental release that Beijing tried to cover up. And (of course) they believe that all the research showing this virus came about naturally and crossed the animal-human barrier is manufactured, that the WHO is actively helping Beijing in the cover-up and that’s why Trump is angry with them.

isnt preparing for any eventuality, no matter what the cause - natural, intentional by enemies, negligence, part of the president’s job?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:22:32am
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:23:40am

re: #87 teleskiguy

*dons tinfoil hat*

What if the second wave of coronavirus infections coming after we “open up the country” convinces William Barr, Fuckface Von Clownstick, and their far-right minions in Congress and the Supreme Court to cancel the election?

re: #147 Belafon

THEY. CANNOT. CANCEL. THE. ELECTION. SINCE. IT’S. RUN. BY. THE. STATES.

Have you seen this Supreme Court? I go along with Teleskiguy — the elections may be run by the states, but this SCOTUS will vote 5-4 with whatever the Trump administration proposes. It doesn’t matter if it conflicts with their position on the Wisconsin primary.

The blue states will still have elections for other races but the red states? For example, what do you think will happen in Kentucky? The Kentucky governor might want to hold the election, but the GOP that controls the legislature? They will overrule him, especially if McConnell is afraid he would lose.

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Citizen K  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:26:34am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:27:21am

The annual Festival of Hope here is a fundraiser for cancer patients and their families.

In the era of the Trumpian Plague, that festival has drawn this headline from the Star-Herald this morning:

Festival of Hope organizers cancel event

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:29:12am

re: #177 Citizen K

Wow. “Keep people at their machinery” Scott Walker said.

Wanna just chain them up to it? Maybe provide overseers with whips to ensure the work continues?

Scratch a conservative, find a slavery apologist.

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stpaulbear  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:30:59am

re: #177 Citizen K

I didn’t think it would be possible, but his eyes look even more dead that they did while he was governor.

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William Lewis  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:31:27am

re: #146 Belafon

Yep, complete with a Supreme Court that will be hostile to anything they try.

First thing is to pack the court to at least 11. Then nuke the filibuster. Then we can get down to business fixing the nation.

I’d really like to see an amendment that says “no votes in either house of congress shall require more than a simple majority unless otherwise specified in the Constitution.” but getting any amendment passed is a fools game.

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jaunte  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:32:29am

Thread:

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lizardofid  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:33:31am

re: #179 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Wow. “Keep people at their machinery” Scott Walker said.

Wanna just chain them up to it? Maybe provide overseers with whips to ensure the work continues?

Scratch a conservative, find a slavery apologist.

You know, if we’re serious about preventing the spread of the virus, maybe it would be better if the workers didn’t go home at night.

Oh, good morning everyone!

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:34:32am

re: #171 Teukka

Sounds like a Mitchell and Webb sketch, LOL.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:39:39am

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:39:53am

re: #174 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Exactly. Whatever the source of the Coronavirus, the reaction of our federal government should be our focus. We can’t control the source.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:42:08am

re: #185 Dr. Matt

Sigh.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:44:19am

He does know Republicans left Washington too, right?

/

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William Lewis  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:45:39am

re: #187 Patricia Kayden

Sigh.

That’s one to tell to “run along child. Adults are trying to talk here.”

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Dr. Matt  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:45:57am

re: #187 Patricia Kayden

Sigh.

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FFS. Ugh

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stpaulbear  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:47:15am

re: #188 Eclectic Cyborg

He does know Republicans left Washington too, right?

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“No one Told me that republicans left Washington!”

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sagehen  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:47:57am

re: #171 Teukka

So this passed by in one discord…

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I like this one:

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:49:08am

re: #177 Citizen K

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Scott Walker is a 24/7 tool.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:49:14am

This thread needs to be read. It’s heartbreaking really.

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lawhawk  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:51:00am

Fuck Trump.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:51:01am

Well, this is nice to hear - a former student of mine, the general manager of the Avion shopping center.

(Translated):

Among the shopping centers giving affected businesses a break was Avion Shopping Park. “We have decided that all rental units that are closed due to the decision of the Czech government will be exempted from the payment of rent and service fees for the period of closure,” said Avion manager Zuzana Pilipčincová.

moravskoslezsky.denik.cz

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:51:45am

re: #194 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

When you think of South Dakota, what do you think of?

Mt. Rushmore?

Been to the Black Hills when I was little, have very few memories of that but did pick up a momento that I have somewhere still in storage.

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Citizen K  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:52:16am

re: #187 Patricia Kayden

Sigh.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:52:48am

re: #176 Hecuba’s daughter

Have you seen this Supreme Court? I go along with Teleskiguy — the elections may be run by the states, but this SCOTUS will vote 5-4 with whatever the Trump administration proposes. It doesn’t matter if it conflicts with their position on the Wisconsin primary.

The blue states will still have elections for other races but the red states? For example, what do you think will happen in Kentucky? The Kentucky governor might want to hold the election, but the GOP that controls the legislature? They will overrule him, especially if McConnell is afraid he would lose.

i’ve posted this a few times
maybe i’ll make it a page
electoral-vote.com has covered this from every reasonable angle imaginable
can trump postpone the election
and
can trump postpone the election II
in short - there is no way to do this that would benefit him

a related issue: yes, there are, in the end, five ways that Donald Trump might try to stay in office beyond January 20, 2021:

- Actually win the election
- Stop the elections from being held - see above - won’t work
- Game the Electoral College - There is no scheme that ends with Trump getting a second term; there are too many counter-moves available for the Democrats, particularly at the Electoral College level.

- Muddy the results, and then get the courts to step in: (really what you’re talking about). yes, possible. not terribly likely. (read the whole paragraph at the link)

- Stage a coup: Even if Trump were to declare martial law, that does not suspend the Constitution, and thus does not change the deadline for the end of his first term. (read the whole paragraph at the link)

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jaunte  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:53:17am

re: #187 Patricia Kayden

Julio is not keeping up:

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Dr. Matt  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:54:45am

re: #193 Barefoot Grin

Scott Walker is a 24/7 tool.

He was Nunes before Nunes.

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Belafon  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:55:35am

re: #194 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Many liberals cast ugly shadow on the state.

I will have to read the thread later, but I do want to make a statement about this. Most liberals wouldn’t care about what the people in the state do if their choices didn’t affect what places with liberals could do. A lot of us liberals support farms, farmers, and would never deny any aid for rural people. But when South Dakota, and other conservative states, elect people that make it hard for NY to take care of it’s people, then of course it’s going to get knocked on by liberals.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:57:04am

A non-apology, apology….I’m sorry you didn’t appreciate and understand my bloodlust:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:57:20am

China just added a whopping 1,290 to their death count, due to additional data from the Hubei local authorities.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:57:39am

re: #187 Patricia Kayden

Sigh.

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- yes it is
- basic math says so

in any event i guess electoral-vote.com is on fire (for me) this morning
(paraphrased)

- Warren has endorsed Biden.
- Sanders has endorsed Biden.
- Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) has endorsed Biden.

If voters who call themselves “progressive” hear what that trio has to say, and respond with “I’m never voting for Biden” or, even more significantly, “I’m voting Trump,” then how can one possibly consider them to be part of the same movement or political faction as Warren/Sanders/AOC?

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lawhawk  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:57:46am

re: #194 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’ve visited SD. Went to Badlands and Mount Rushmore and drove the Needles Highway and saw Crazy Horse. I did Wall Drug and visited Rapid City.

Covid19 doesn’t care if you’re a conservative or liberal. It will just keep spreading if you don’t engage in stay-at-home practices, social distancing, and isolating those who are sick.

The GOP doesn’t care. They just want to reopen as though nothing’s wrong. Liberals want to make sure as few people die and get sickened from this knowing that SD health care resources are limited. They don’t have the ICU beds or ventilators to deal with a crush of cases. And those cases are coming. The dead will pile up - not in the thousands as we see in NY metro, but in dozens - at the same or higher per capita rates in NY.

That’s what we’re trying to prevent. Decimation.

Fuck Trump. Fuck the death cult GOP.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 17, 2020 • 7:59:40am

re: #200 jaunte

Mississippi is purple????

MISSISSIPPI IS PURPLE?!

Well damn, there’s something I’d never thought I ‘d see.

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jaunte  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:01:42am

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

One poll, margin of error 5%, but still, a hopeful sign.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:02:31am

re: #202 Belafon

I will have to read the thread later, but I do want to make a statement about this. Most liberals wouldn’t care about what the people in the state do if their choices didn’t affect what places with liberals could do. A lot of us liberals support farms, farmers, and would never deny any aid for rural people. But when South Dakota, and other conservative states, elect people that make it hard for NY ** to take care of it’s people , then of course it’s going to get knocked on by liberals.

** and everywhere else to possible lose access to the foodchain and..

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:08:32am

re: #202 Belafon

I will have to read the thread later, but I do want to make a statement about this. Most liberals wouldn’t care about what the people in the state do if their choices didn’t affect what places with liberals could do. A lot of us liberals support farms, farmers, and would never deny any aid for rural people. But when South Dakota, and other conservative states, elect people that make it hard for NY to take care of it’s people, then of course it’s going to get knocked on by liberals.

Agree completely.

I don’t think she’s shitting on liberals really and I don’t think many liberals are cheering death and destruction in SD (Or ND or anywhere).

Watching what conservative states are doing to themselves is still completely heartbreaking.

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retired cynic  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:09:27am

re: #148 lawhawk

States that haven’t already moved to make vote by mail a reality, need to consider doing so now, ahead of November (or the primaries that have been shifted due to covid19 limitations). It’ll be a sea change in how we vote, but one that prioritizes public involvement instead of the current mess that disenfranchises people due to limited polling places, long lines, and results in civic disengagement, voter suppression, and enables the GOP to remain in power despite continually getting fewer votes across elections.

Yesterday (seems like a year ago!), I posted a link to Greg Palast’s blog: Rush to Vote-by-Mail could cost Dems the Election
Mail-in Voting puts Millions of Minority Ballots at Risk

I get it: We all must vote by mail—or we die. There is really no other safe choice.

But there is much to fear, especially for minority and young voters, with a switch to all-mail voting—unless our broken absentee ballot system is fixed.

Here’s what the “Go Postal” crowd doesn’t tell you: In 2016, 512,696 mail-in ballots—over half a million—were simply rejected, not counted. That’s official, from the federal Elections Assistance Commission (EAC).

But that’s just the tip of the ballot-berg of uncounted mail-in votes. A study by MIT, Losing Votes by Mail, puts the total loss of mail-in votes at a breathtaking 22%.

I don’t know how true this is, but knowing who we are up against, it seems possible.

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Citizen K  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:09:48am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:10:13am

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plansbandc  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:11:13am

re: #23 teleskiguy

The worst ever “president” is a celebrity “president”.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:12:42am

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:14:04am

re: #206 lawhawk

I did that same tour of SD. It was a great trip.

I think SD deaths will be in the hundreds not dozens, which is significant in a state with less than a million people.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:14:31am

France reports 40% of aircraft carrier group crew test positive for Covid-19

Some 940 of the 2,300-strong crew aboard the Charles De Gaulle aircraft carrier group have tested positive for Covid-19, the French Senate said in a statement on Friday, citing the military’s chief medical officer.

After a closed hearing with Maryline Gygax Genero, the Senate said that 500 crew from the carrier itself had shown symptoms of the illness.

[…]

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:15:23am

re: #144 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Happy Friday!

I’m a predator too!
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:17:03am

re: #210 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Agree completely.

I don’t think she’s shitting on liberals really and I don’t think many liberals are cheering death and destruction in SD (Or ND or anywhere).

Watching what conservative states are doing to themselves is still completely heartbreaking.

im fine with people believing (faith without proof) whatever they want - politically, religiously, ‘scientifically’.

one big reason for the 40-45% intransigence is there’s no effective challenge to those beliefs.

covid-19 is reality slapping their “personal, sincere and firmly held” beliefs in the face

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:19:04am

Interesting article:

My Wild, Totally Surreal Experience Covering a Trump Coronavirus Briefing

POLITICO - Your forehead, please,” said the woman in a mask.

She was a medical technician sitting in a tent outside the northwest gate of the White House in the otherwise deserted section of Pennsylvania Avenue that is usually crammed with tourists in April.

Donald Trump’s daily 5 p.m. show — officially described on the White House schedule as a press briefing by Members of the Coronavirus Task Force — was scheduled to start. It is at this surreal moment in American politics the only news event that really matters. The entire country is sitting at home looking for expert guidance. On some days, we get it. Early on when Dr. Anthony Fauci first explained the idea behind social distancing or when Dr. Deborah Birx introduced us all to the concept of bending the curve, the briefings were crucial— perhaps the closest thing in modern times to one of FDR’s fireside chats during the Depression and World War II, a news briefing from government officials who your life actually depended on.

But they quickly descended into Trumpian theater. Useful information from the doctors became mixed in with long rants from Trump on peripheral issues. The relationship between Trump and the task force members themselves, especially Fauci, who became a media hero, gradually started to dominate the sessions, as if Trump couldn’t help but turn the crisis into a reality show about himself and his staff and his peculiar obsessions of the moment.

This week, especially Monday’s event, the briefings reached the zenith of showcasing unusual behavior, peripheral issues and petty intrigue. On Monday, Trump played a propaganda video, angrily attacked reporters sitting a few feet away, declared himself to have “total authority,” and pressed officials — some more reluctantly (Fauci) than others (Mike Pence) — to stand before the cameras and deliver obsequious praise while he hovered nearby.

The briefings have sent Trump’s political opponents, particularly Joe Biden, who continues to be quarantined at home in Delaware, scrambling for ways to gain attention. And they have created a crisis in the news media, as networks and online publications struggle with how to cover them and whether it’s appropriate to play the briefings, which are larded with erroneous information and campaign-like speechifying, live.

Watching these events on television doesn’t capture how surreal they really are, so on Monday and Wednesday, I ventured to the White House to see them up close.

I highly recommend reading the whole thing.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:19:42am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:21:51am

re: #219 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

im fine with people believing (faith without proof) whatever they want - politically, religiously, ‘scientifically’.

one big reason for the 40-45% intransigence is there’s no effective challenge to those beliefs.

covid-19 is reality slapping their “personal, sincere and firmly held” beliefs in the face

You can’t challenge the beliefs of people in their bubble. Death of a loved one might do it but I’m not even counting on that.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:24:14am

Sigh. Germany mortality rate (deaths / total cases) has reached 3%. And Diamond Princess is up to 1.8%. There were 7 serious/critical cases yesterday associated with DP, there are still 7 in that category. That suggests either the most recent death was NOT among the serious/critical cases — or perhaps another active case slipped into that category. This disease may have a CFR of over 3%, even in the best of circumstances, at least until we develop an effective treatment.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:25:50am

re: #214 plansbandc

The worst ever “president” is a celebrity an amateur “president”.

either way

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:28:46am

In South Korea, A Growing Number Of COVID-19 Patients Test Positive After Recovery

A growing number of recovered COVID-19 patients are relapsing in South Korea, raising new questions and concerns among scientists and health authorities after the country successfully flattened the curve.

By Friday, Korean health authorities had identified 163 patients who tested positive again after a full recovery. The number more than doubled in about a week, up from 74 cases on April 9. Those patients — just over 2% of the country’s 7,829 recovered patients — are now back in isolation.

[…]

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mmmirele  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:29:34am

re: #146 Belafon

Yep, complete with a Supreme Court that will be hostile to anything they try.

The Court in FDR’s time was also very hostile. That’s when FDR suggested court packing. The Court suddenly found room in the Constitution for what FDR was doing. Amazing, that.

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lawhawk  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:29:36am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:29:37am

re: #222 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

You can’t challenge the beliefs of people in their bubble. Death of a loved one might do it but I’m not even counting on that.

agreed

and i dont necessarily expect current circumstances to change any of their minds or even cause reflection.

they’ll argue over the cause but dead is still dead.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:31:52am

re: #226 mmmirele

The Court in FDR’s time was also very hostile. That’s when FDR suggested court packing. The Court suddenly found room in the Constitution for what FDR was doing. Amazing, that.

i dont get ‘court packing’
‘expand the court’ sounds more on point

im pedanting cause i have nothing to do

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William Lewis  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:33:33am

re: #226 mmmirele

The Court in FDR’s time was also very hostile. That’s when FDR suggested court packing. The Court suddenly found room in the Constitution for what FDR was doing. Amazing, that.

Don’t trust the Chief Justice this time though. Pack it anyway. 11/13/15 whatever it takes to gut their majority for a generation.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:33:53am

The President of the United States is telling some of its citizens to go to war against their own state governments.

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Belafon  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:34:03am

re: #226 mmmirele

The Court in FDR’s time was also very hostile. That’s when FDR suggested court packing. The Court suddenly found room in the Constitution for what FDR was doing. Amazing, that.

And conservative Democrats stopped supporting FDR, effectively ending any legislative remedies until Pearl Harbor.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:35:02am

re: #227 lawhawk

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Trump is actively promoting violence in states run by Democrats. Is he getting these ideas from his BFF Putin? Promoting an armed uprising so he could send in forces and take over the state?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:35:44am

I normally supplement my diet with a full range of vitamins and minerals, always have as my diet is often erratic and, shall we say, idiosyncratic.

But now with a big hoopla being made over vitamin D in regards to helping with Covid-19, I wonder when I go to the store today if any will be left on the shelf? Are we about to see a hoarding of vitamin D like we see in toilet paper?

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stpaulbear  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:37:46am

re: #227 lawhawk

“LIBERATE MINNESOTA!”

Seize Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing!! Take their products!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:37:50am

re: #177 Citizen K

Scott Walker thinks we should reopen the manufacturing sector by closing breakrooms and lunchrooms to “keep people at their machinery”

[Great Film Scenes] Metropolis (1927) - Freder and the M-Machine

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:39:18am

So, getting ready for my morning early, Mrs. Lapin took a picture e of my in my home cubicle. I have an office and door at work, gonna have to speak to management here for an upgrade.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:41:46am

here’s a sentence i never thought i’d write (or say)

“caterpillar poop has jammed my scanner”

we are growing a small forest of milkweed
the caterpillars decimated some of the plants so mrs dm brought the stripped plants inside to — quarantine.

well there were eggs.
and they hatched and more caterpillars grew on the plants now inside
some of the plants hang over the scanner
and it was fine till the caterpillars got bigger and mobile

use your imagination for the rest

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stpaulbear  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:42:01am

re: #234 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I normally supplement my diet with a full range of vitamins and minerals, always have as my diet is often erratic and, shall we say, idiosyncratic.

But now with a big hoopla being made over vitamin D in regards to helping with Covid-19, I wonder when I go to the store today if any will be left on the shelf? Are we about to see a hoarding of vitamin D like we see in toilet paper?

I bought some at a Walgreen’s about a week ago. The hoopla about D had already started so I was worried that it would be gone, but there was a lot of it available at my store. Only problem was the brand/dosage I wanted was down to one bottle so I had to get a different version to get BOGO.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:42:15am

re: #234 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I normally supplement my diet with a full range of vitamins and minerals, always have as my diet is often erratic and, shall we say, idiosyncratic.

But now with a big hoopla being made over vitamin D in regards to helping with Covid-19, I wonder when I go to the store today if any will be left on the shelf? Are we about to see a hoarding of vitamin D like we see in toilet paper?

Dr has me taking high doses of Vitamin D and I get it from the GNC store a block away from me.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:44:01am

re: #237 Colère Tueur de Lapin

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:44:51am

re: #237 Colère Tueur de Lapin

So, getting ready for my morning early, Mrs. Lapin took a picture e of my in my home cubicle. I have an office and did at work, gonna have to speak to management here for an upgrade.

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at least you got pants on

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:47:12am

re: #177 Citizen K

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Chains! I think we need more chains. And shackles, definitely more shackles.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:47:18am

Jeff Sessions, running of course again, is full on yellow-peril and ban the foreigners bandwagon, now stating that the US should not all employment-based immigration until the unemployment rate is below 3.5%.

Of course that is nonsense as employment visas are usually for specific skills that are needed, and these tend to be professional jobs.

And 3.5% is one of those numbers that is irrelevant as unemployment figures, as has often been discussed, are largely misleading in regards to the facts of what happens in jobs for most people.

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mmmirele  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:52:07am

My congressman is Andy Biggs, winner of the American Family Sweepstakes (the source of his wealth) and current head of the “Freedom Caucus”. This is his current rant.

Facebook Post

I proceeded to post links to several articles noting how churches have experienced illness and death because they met or continue to meet. Then I let him have it.

As you can tell, I truly loathe this asshat.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:53:38am

re: #223 Hecuba’s daughter

Sigh. Germany mortality rate (deaths / total cases) has reached 3%. And Diamond Princess is up to 1.8%. There were 7 serious/critical cases yesterday associated with DP, there are still 7 in that category. That suggests either the most recent death was NOT among the serious/critical cases — or perhaps another active case slipped into that category. This disease may have a CFR of over 3%, even in the best of circumstances, at least until we develop an effective treatment.

Remember what age group we’re talking about for the DP. 3% might even be low. (I’ve only heard of five DP crew getting it, which wouldn’t bring the average down much..)

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lawhawk  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:55:00am

re: #235 stpaulbear

Seize Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing!! Take their products!

The trifecta of m’s.

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Belafon  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:56:56am

re: #245 mmmirele

My congressman is Andy Biggs, winner of the American Family Sweepstakes (the source of his wealth) and current head of the “Freedom Caucus”. This is his current rant.

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As you can tell, I truly loathe this asshat.

To Andy and John, that’s fine if they want to attend, but they are not allowed to go anywhere for two weeks after they go into the church, because their need to worship in a hive does not give them the right to spread disease to other people.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:56:59am

re: #245 mmmirele

My congressman is Andy Biggs, winner of the American Family Sweepstakes (the source of his wealth) and current head of the “Freedom Caucus”. This is his current rant.

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As you can tell, I truly loathe this asshat.

your right to swing your religious liberty ends where my respiratory system begins

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BigPapa  Apr 17, 2020 • 8:59:46am

I just blocked an Uncle in Law for wingnutery. He posted ‘90% of whats wrong right now? THE MEDIA.’ The first reply to him was ‘We should quarantine all libtards for 90 days.’ To which Uncle Liked. Uncle is retired on the East Coast from a long military career but most family is in Hawaii and the Philipines. The Wife Unit lived with him for 5 years before she met me

My policy is to Block or engage on toxic bullshit like that. But this won’t be over. Uncle has been working on getting caught up on Facebook. The Philipino family is very large and very spread out and Facebook is the perfect mechanism to keep in touch. A few months ago mom was on the phone for a large part of the day dealing with some family turmoil and I thought somebody died: Wife Unit told me there was some kerfuffle on Facebook and somebody blocked somebody.

Stay tuned… LOL

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:00:46am

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

Mississippi is purple????

MISSISSIPPI IS PURPLE?!

Well damn, there’s something I’d never thought I ‘d see.

Two of my cousins are doing their part in MS to help that along. But I have an aunt and uncle that are canceling them out. So purple it is.

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lawhawk  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:01:10am

re: #249 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

your right to swing your religious liberty ends where my respiratory system begins

And stay-at-home applies to everyone, religious gatherings and businesses. Weddings and funerals. Gender reveal parties and sweet sixteens. Confirmations and board meetings. Everything. But these fucknuts think that religious groups are excepted from these rules? We have clear cases of specific outbreaks due to religious gatherings here in the US and worldwide.

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sagehen  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:01:58am

re: #245 mmmirele

My congressman is Andy Biggs, winner of the American Family Sweepstakes (the source of his wealth) and current head of the “Freedom Caucus”. This is his current rant.

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“Government, in my opinion, has no business putting restrictions on religious worship at any time.
It is the peoples’ determination to decide whether they go out and exercise their religious liberties.”

Unless they’re Muslim. Then how dare they want to build a place of worship in a place where I don’t want to have to see it.

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steve_davis  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:02:00am

re: #66 Dread Pirate

The important question of these times is…

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depends. have you ever zoom conferenced with me?

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makeitstop  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:02:29am

Fred Guttenberg ain’t havin’ this ‘Liberate Virgina’ shit.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:02:59am

re: #242 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

at least you got pants on

After the walk and shower I changed in to my work pajamas. Once it warms up, pants will be optional.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:04:22am

re: #245 mmmirele

My congressman is Andy Biggs, winner of the American Family Sweepstakes (the source of his wealth) and current head of the “Freedom Caucus”. This is his current rant.

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As you can tell, I truly loathe this asshat.

I wonder how many Republican Congressmen, Governors and Senators have to take a dirt nap before they come to their senses…10, 20, 50, 100????

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:04:42am
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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:04:53am

Seeing the extended family gearing up to puff out their chests and go to mass right-wing rallies to defy “Damn Gummint Lib’rals Telling Us How To Live And All” because Fox News, is depressing me beyond words today.

So this:

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:06:51am

re: #259 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Seeing the extended family gearing up to puff out their chests and go to mass right-wing rallies to defy “Damn Gummint Lib’rals Telling Us How To Live And All” because Fox News, is depressing me beyond words today.

So this:

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I’m just waiting to see the lawsuits filed against Screwpert Murdoch and his Stooges…those lawsuits are coming…and perhaps the pitchforks and torches will appear in front of anyone who works for Screwpert…

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:11:40am

re: #256 Colère Tueur de Lapin

After the walk and shower I changed in to my work pajamas. Once it warms up, pants will be optional.

um, erm…

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:12:27am

re: #245 mmmirele

Looks like Stieber is saying the 1st amendment *is* a past with death. He doesn’t strike me as a particularly sharp critter.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:12:43am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:13:27am

re: #256 Colère Tueur de Lapin

After the walk and shower I changed in to my work pajamas. Once it warms up, pants will be optional.

gosh at least I keep my Speedo on! 😉

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makeitstop  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:13:29am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:13:56am

re: #255 makeitstop

Fred Guttenberg ain’t havin’ this ‘Liberate Virgina’ shit.

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once again this is the goddamned fucking president of the united states.
who is - supported in this
- by his staff
- and his administration
- and his republican senate

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:15:20am
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Eventual Carrion  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:16:30am

re: #217 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

France reports 40% of aircraft carrier group crew test positive for Covid-19

Have they fired the chief medical officer yet?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:17:39am

I got a feeling the Joint Chiefs Of Staff isn’t gonna take much more of Trump’s shit….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:18:49am

re: #251 Eventual Carrion

Two of my cousins are doing their part in MS to help that along. But I have an aunt and uncle that are canceling them out. So purple it is.

My own wife is quite conservative but even she is getting pretty fed up with Trump these days.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:19:53am

re: #266 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:19:56am

re: #263 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Hopefully, this antibody test is specific for COVID 19 and not a general coronavirus test. There were earlier articles that mentioned initial antibody tests had to be followed up because they did not distinguish among various types of coronavirus, many of which are basically varieties of the common cold (which are normally caused by rhinoviruses).

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:20:43am
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William Lewis  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:21:17am

re: #270 Eclectic Cyborg

My own wife is quite conservative but even she is getting pretty fed up with Trump these days.

The wingnut at work the other day agreed with me when I referred to the people ranting about opening up were wanting their “Free-Dumb”.

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Teukka  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:24:08am

*breathes fire*
“Karen” lets her son steal a blind womans cane
Don’t be a “Karen”.
*empties fire extinguisher on burning wall*

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:24:19am
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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:24:59am

re: #272 Hecuba’s daughter

Hopefully, this antibody test is specific for COVID 19 and not a general coronavirus test. There were earlier articles that mentioned initial antibody tests had to be followed up because they did not distinguish among various types of coronavirus, many of which are basically varieties of the common cold (which are normally caused by rhinoviruses).

So 95% of us do not have immunity.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:27:15am

re: #244 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Jeff Sessions, running of course again, is full on yellow-peril and ban the foreigners bandwagon, now stating that the US should not all employment-based immigration until the unemployment rate is below 3.5%.

Of course that is nonsense as employment visas are usually for specific skills that are needed, and these tend to be professional jobs.

And 3.5% is one of those numbers that is irrelevant as unemployment figures, as has often been discussed, are largely misleading in regards to the facts of what happens in jobs for most people.

And remember that to Sessions “foreigners” as a designation has a built-in skin color factor included.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:28:04am

re: #211 retired cynic

Yesterday (seems like a year ago!), I posted a link to Greg Palast’s blog: Rush to Vote-by-Mail could cost Dems the Election
Mail-in Voting puts Millions of Minority Ballots at Risk

I don’t know how true this is, but knowing who we are up against, it seems possible.

What I don’t think he accounts for is that mail in ballots significantly increases turnout, and there would still be more total votes even accounting for breakage. Relatedly, he fails to account for the fact that voting by mail might be the only means by which lots of people can participate (i.e. for folks that can’t get out of work to get to a polling booth or don’t have an ID, etc.).

Fact is, Colorado, as an example, has universal mail in balloting. Turnout is extremely high and it is blue (and getting bluer).

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:29:34am

re: #275 Teukka

*breathes fire*
“Karen” lets her son steal a blind womans cane
Don’t be a “Karen”.
*empties fire extinguisher on burning wall*

karen my ass

as AG said “some people are just monsters’

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:31:03am
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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:31:31am

re: #195 lawhawk

Fuck Trump.

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Heartbreaking.

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gwangung  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:31:58am

re: #273 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Acting how they think Crips and Bloods act like. But it’s OK because they’re white and Republican.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:32:42am

re: #276 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Opinion: ” I want my kids to get coronavirus - and you should too “

because you know this is all so inconvenient

should read “i want my kids to get coronavirus even though they might die from it - and you should too”

anyone can die from it
young, old, healthy, compromised - especially those who don’t know they are somehow compromised specifically to this

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:33:44am

Jesus fucking Christ.

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Teukka  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:34:50am

re: #284 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Opinion: ” I want my kids to get coronavirus - and you should too “

because you know this is all so inconvenient

should read “i want my kids to get coronavirus even though they might die from it - and so should you too”

anyone can die from it
young, old, healthy, compromised - especially those who don’t know they are somehow compromised specifically to this

Having coronavirus has been described such by more than one person in Swedish media:
My fucking lungs were on g-ddamn fire.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:34:54am

re: #285 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Jesus fucking Christ.

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Let me take a wild guess at the gender of the landlords in question…

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:37:08am
Susan Glasser: “His two most memorable lines of the COVID-19 pandemic, proclaiming ‘absolute authority’ and ‘no responsibility at all,’ are wildly contradictory, and yet also completely consistent with his approach to governing.”

“The novel coronavirus is truly a new type of American crisis, but it has been met by the same old, same old from America’s President: unhinged press conferences and unfounded conspiracy theories; lies, attacks, and bizarre non sequiturs; and abrupt, seemingly incomprehensible policy shifts from a leader who has no problem changing course at the expense of his own credibility.”

he has no ‘approach to governing’

this is just a long way to go to say the president is an insane crackpot

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Dr. Matt  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:37:48am

He’s in shit-flinging mode

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Mike Lamb  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:39:22am

re: #289 Dr. Matt

He’s in shit-flinging mode

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I mean, if they were incompetent, what does that make him?

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:39:35am

re: #289 Dr. Matt

He’s in shit-flinging mode

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Donnie must have seen some poll numbers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:40:51am

re: #289 Dr. Matt

Biden/Obama were a disaster in handling the H1N1 Swine Flu. Polling at the time showed disastrous approval numbers. 17,000 people died unnecessarily and through incompetence! Also, don’t forget their 5 Billion Dollar Obamacare website that should have cost close to nothing!

shut up. unless you are going to tell us about what you are doing to help mitigate the ongoing crisis and help save lives

okay. just shut up.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:41:09am

re: #229 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

i dont get ‘court packing’
‘expand the court’ sounds more on point

im pedanting cause i have nothing to do

Also “expand” doesn’t sound as loaded of a word as “packing”

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:41:42am

re: #291 b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)

Donnie must have seen some poll numbers.

Yep….and then promptly saw a vision of himself being frogmarched out of the White House on Inauguration Day.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:42:51am

re: #281 goddamnedfrank

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Unless I am mis-remembering, I thought the general philosophical belief underpinning libertarianism is that you can basically do whatever you want provided that you didn’t hurt others and/or intrude on other’s individual liberties. Seems the idea that people could be walking around, spreading COVID-19 will-nilly, is antithetical to libertarian thought.

Of course, I am falling into the trap of believing that people professing to be libertarian actually have a coherent core philosophy.

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Jack Burton  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:43:05am

re: #289 Dr. Matt

That 17000 number, unless I’m mistaken, is worldwide deaths, not just the US which was like 4000.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:43:07am

re: #289 Dr. Matt

He’s in shit-flinging mode

1. Your Small Business Loan program was a fucking disaster.

2. Coronavirus deaths have more than doubled Swine Flu deaths in the United States…and they are still going up.

3. You have disastrous approval numbers right now.

4. You’re an Asshole.

5. You’re an Asshole.

6. You’re an ASSHOLE!

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Belafon  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:43:38am

re: #289 Dr. Matt

He’s in shit-flinging mode

According to wikipedia, 12,469 Americans died over the entire course of the disease. en.wikipedia.org. This time we’re going to do this every couple of weeks until things settle down.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:44:56am

re: #295 Mike Lamb

Unless I am mis-remembering, I thought the general philosophical belief underpinning libertarianism is that you can basically do whatever you want provided that you didn’t hurt others and/or intrude on other’s individual liberties.

the core philosophy is that of the privileged twat: you should be able to do anything you can get away with, by bribery, threats or intimidation.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:46:18am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:46:22am

re: #297 Eclectic Cyborg

1. You have no background in government or public service

2.Your history of private “service” is largely unknown because you refused to release any tax returns

3. You called Corona a “hoax”

4. You’re an Asshole.

5. You’re an Asshole.

6. You’re an ASSHOLE!

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mmmirele  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:46:48am

re: #282 The Pie Overlord!

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:48:18am

re: #296 Jack Burton

That 17000 number, unless I’m mistaken, is worldwide deaths, not just the US which was like 4000.

just from the first google hit:

The CDC estimated that from April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, there were 60.8 million H1N1 cases, with 274,304 hospitalizations and 12,469 deaths in the U.S. alone.

12k deaths
in 12 months
60m total cases

he’s an idiot

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Dr. Matt  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:49:53am

re: #303 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

just from the first google hit:

12k deaths
in 12 months
60m total cases

he’s an idiot

Donnie killed 35,000 Americans with his failed leadership on covid19

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:50:05am

re: #295 Mike Lamb

Unless I am mis-remembering, I thought the general philosophical belief underpinning libertarianism is that you can basically do whatever you want provided that you didn’t hurt others and/or intrude on other’s individual liberties. Seems the idea that people could be walking around, spreading COVID-19 will-nilly, is antithetical to libertarian thought.

Of course, I am falling into the trap of believing that people professing to be libertarian actually have a coherent core philosophy.

And it seems often that libertarians often have strange filters or conditions to define which “others” are allowed individual liberties equal to their own.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:50:35am

re: #277 Rightwingconspirator

So 95% of us do not have immunity.

Yes. But we do need a test that can identify people who may be immune to the disease. OTOH, we do not yet know whether these antibodies do protect you from a subsequent re-infection.

However, if these numbers hold up statewide (which they probably won’t), this suggests that there were at least 800,000 cases in California instead of the 28,000 cases now reported from that state. Wait until there is a followup to confirm that this test indeed identified exposure to COVID 19. And whether it proves anything about individual immunity.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:50:43am
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Jack Burton  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:51:10am

re: #303 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

The numbers I got from the CDC from April 2009 to October 2009.

Deaths Total: Mid-Level Range: ~3,900 Estimated Range: ~2,500 to ~6,100

cdc.gov

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:52:19am

re: #304 Dr. Matt

Donnie killed 35,000 Americans with his failed leadership on covid19

35000 AND COUNTING.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:55:51am

re: #307 goddamnedfrank

CHERNOBYL (HBO) - A Typical Day at Work for Comrade Dyatlov

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:56:04am

Damn!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:56:55am

re: #311 goddamnedfrank

Why can’t I be comfortable when I am working, asshole?

It’s not like my coworkers are here in my house with me.

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ericblair  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:57:41am

re: #269 Joe Bacon 🌹

I got a feeling the Joint Chiefs Of Staff isn’t gonna take much more of Trump’s shit….

That’s where it ends up if we start getting carried away with “what if the Supreme Court just hands the election to Trump!” Yes, it’s happened in a lot of other countries, and that’s when you start looking at what the Joint Chiefs are doing because then it’s a coup and it’s about when and where the tanks start rolling.

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stpaulbear  Apr 17, 2020 • 9:58:59am

re: #256 Colère Tueur de Lapin

After the walk and shower I changed in to my work pajamas. Once it warms up, pants will be optional.

Boxer shorts are the new pajama pants.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:01:11am

re: #314 stpaulbear

Boxer shorts are the new pajama pants.

that’s all I ever sleep in, that and a t-shirt…never wore pyjamas in any form

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:02:29am

My wife texted me that the “dumbass brigade” (her words) are driving around the Capitol honking their horns since they are no longer allowed to gather together for mass protests.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:02:45am

re: #316 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yep…same here. I think the last time I wore pajamas was when I was a little kid.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:04:01am

Fuck

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:04:19am

Approaching this point.

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sagehen  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:05:36am

re: #296 Jack Burton

That 17000 number, unless I’m mistaken, is worldwide deaths, not just the US which was like 4000.

17K is a bit of an exaggeration; it’s more like 13K in the U.S.

But that’s over an entire year; the first month of which Obama was still in transition mode and hadn’t been inaugurated yet.

13K from Covid was last week. And it’ll probably be higher this week.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:05:44am

re: #319 goddamnedfrank

Fuck

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So it begins….

Just like I told you, deep red states will go along with Dear Leader and reopen while blue states will do things on their own terms.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:06:17am

re: #318 Dr Lizardo

Yep…same here. I think the last time I wore pajamas was when I was a little kid.

even in the dead of winter, I am too warm in pyjamas

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:07:22am

re: #323 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

even in the dead of winter, I am too warm in pyjamas

I wore pajamas when I was a kid. When I got to be a preteen, I transitioned to boxer shorts and a t-shirt. Now I usually sleep naked. No shame, I find it the most comfortable way.

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cat-tikvah  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:08:18am

re: #257 Joe Bacon 🌹

Or more forcefully, their families. Cheap bravado.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:09:26am

re: #319 goddamnedfrank

Fuck

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And Utah has had very few deaths up to now. Probably due to that healthy Mormon lifestyle.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:10:30am

I think Ice Cube speaks for many of us here.

Ice Cube - Arrest The President [Audio]

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jeffreyw  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:10:31am

re: #293 Eventual Carrion

Also “expand” doesn’t sound as loaded of a word as “packing”

Due to the increased load on our courts, we are going to expand our federal system to help ease the burden on our overworked judges and help to deliver justice faster, rather than see cases become moot because the parties have died before their cases were heard.

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stpaulbear  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:10:52am

re: #294 Dr Lizardo

Yep….and then promptly saw a vision of himself being frogmarched out of the White House on Inauguration Day.

He’s going to be a flight risk, but most countries other than Russia would drag him off to The Hague the moment he lands.

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Citizen K  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:11:15am

re: #295 Mike Lamb

Unless I am mis-remembering, I thought the general philosophical belief underpinning libertarianism is that you can basically do whatever you want provided that you didn’t hurt others and/or intrude on other’s individual liberties. Seems the idea that people could be walking around, spreading COVID-19 will-nilly, is antithetical to libertarian thought.

Of course, I am falling into the trap of believing that people professing to be libertarian actually have a coherent core philosophy.

The secret to Libertarian thought is that you can invalidate other people’s sense of harm and pain so that you can do whatever you want. And their claims of being hurt or you infringing on their liberties are invalid because they aren’t you.

Libertarianism is, at it’s core, a justification for individual greed.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:11:52am

re: #278 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And remember that to Sessions “foreigners” as a designation has a built-in skin color factor included.

Not always. If you ask Jefferson Beauregard Sessions THE THIRD, he will tell you my White Pittsburgh-Irish ass is a foreigner cluttering up his confederacy.

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William Lewis  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:12:30am

re: #316 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that’s all I ever sleep in, that and a t-shirt…never wore pyjamas in any fore

sweat pants and a t-shirt for me.

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bratwurst  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:13:43am
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:13:52am

re: #329 stpaulbear

He’s going to be a flight risk, but most countries other than Russia would drag him off to The Hague the moment he lands.

There’s pretty much nowhere he could go without facing the risk of extradition. Russia would probably welcome him.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:20:13am

I would lay strong odds that when we hear that a bankrupt company with no employees got a huge contract to make masks, there are kickbacks; and when a GOP-donor’s company gets a nearly $600 million contract to build two sections of wall that is estimated to cost far less than that, there are kickbacks. I hope investigative reporters can find the shell companies Trump and Kushner are using to stash the cash.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:20:43am

MSNBC reporting more meat packing plants are closing, so we may all be vegans soon.

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Citizen K  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:22:02am

re: #319 goddamnedfrank

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:22:03am

re: #331 Decatur Deb

Not always. If you ask Jefferson Beauregard Sessions THE THIRD, he will tell you my White Pittsburgh-Irish ass is a foreigner cluttering up his confederacy.

Though I’m quite sure his Confederacy was quite happy using the Scotch and Irish small farmers as infantry resisting the Union scourge trying to take away their right to own slaves.

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danarchy  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:22:07am

re: #319 goddamnedfrank

Fuck

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In principle there should be a commission coming up with a plan. As along as the plan isn’t to throw open the floodgates. Part of the problem with this whole thing is there has really been no planning. Unfortunately this is probably a prelude to screwing things up.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:23:23am

re: #339 danarchy

In principle there should be a commission coming up with a plan. As along as the plan isn’t to throw open the floodgates. Part of the problem with this whole thing is there has really been no planning. Unfortunately this is probably a prelude to screwing things up.

Sounds an awful lot like “invade Iraq now” without a meaningful plan for the peace afterwards doesn’t it?

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stpaulbear  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:25:05am

re: #322 Eclectic Cyborg

So it begins….

Just like I told you, deep red states will go along with Dear Leader and reopen while blue states will do things on their own terms.

The MN gov has decided to ease some restrictions on some recreational activities like golfing and fishing. There are still lots of limitations to the fishing rule. Unnecesary travel is still strongly discouraged.

I can guarantee that he didn’t do this out of fear of Trump.

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Citizen K  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:25:11am

re: #339 danarchy

In principle there should be a commission coming up with a plan. As along as the plan isn’t to throw open the floodgates. Part of the problem with this whole thing is there has really been no planning. Unfortunately this is probably a prelude to screwing things up.

I mean…the comment in that second tweet makes it clear that they’re willing to throw open the floodgates long as they get that short-term goosing of the economy. That’s ‘mission accomplished’ for them, no care for if/when the virus reemerges.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:26:05am

re: #338 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Though I’m quite sure his Confederacy was quite happy using the Scotch and Irish small farmers as infantry resisting the Union scourge trying to take away their right to own slaves.

In the 1860 census, 700 Americans answered to our family name. By 1865, 64 became Union soldiers. Don’t know how many Confederates.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:27:22am

re: #337 Citizen K

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There’s your “pro-life” philosophy for you. As Lord Farqad would say, “Some of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make.”

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Citizen K  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:29:19am

re: #344 NO SMOCKING GUN!

There’s your “pro-life” philosophy for you. As Lord Farqad would say, “Some of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make.”

The Task Force to Libera-…er…Re-Open America
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jaunte  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:29:34am
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:30:07am

re: #326 NO SMOCKING GUN!

And Utah has had very few deaths up to now. Probably due to that healthy Mormon lifestyle.

Meanwhile a Trumpster and skiing-aficionado friend just sold his home in suburban Chicago and is currently driving with his wife to their new home in Utah. Utah may have few cases now but let’s see what happens over the next couple months. It’s not as though Utah has an impenetrable wall separating themselves from the rest of the world. After all Idaho’s outbreak arose from skiing enthusiasts visiting from elsewhere.

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plansbandc  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:32:34am

re: #275 Teukka

Too many people in our country act like that mother and son.

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jaunte  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:43:52am
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:44:31am

re: #335 Barefoot Grin

I would lay strong odds that when we hear that a bankrupt company with no employees got a huge contract to make masks

Funny you should mention that - a story similar to that just broke in Czech media regarding the Minister of Health (who’s not a doctor, btw, but a failed musician and lawyer for our oligarch PM’s media outlet).

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:45:09am

re: #336 NO SMOCKING GUN!

MSNBC reporting more meat packing plants are closing, so we may all be vegans soon.

Panic buying of meat to ensue in 3…2…1…

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:45:28am

re: #313 ericblair

That’s where it ends up if we start getting carried away with “what if the Supreme Court just hands the election to Trump!” Yes, it’s happened in a lot of other countries, and that’s when you start looking at what the Joint Chiefs are doing because then it’s a coup and it’s about when and where the tanks start rolling.

the supreme court route is different from the coup route
if the court distorts or destroys the system that badly, they lose their own power.
and robert’s place in history becomes what?

as to a coup:
- trump hasnt filled the upper military with loyalists
- soldiers tend to very seriously take their oaths to defend the Constitution - not him
- there would no doubt be a rebellion of tens of millions of people to put down.

this from a president who talks big and then blinks every single time?

nah

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Teukka  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:46:09am

re: #348 plansbandc

Too many people in our country act like that mother and son.

Too many people in my country are not that far away from acting like that mother and son. I have many horror stories I’ve experienced, I’ve been around blind and visually impaired for decades.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:48:52am

re: #337 Citizen K

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you cant legislate a virus

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 17, 2020 • 10:49:05am

re: #322 Eclectic Cyborg

So it begins….

Just like I told you, deep red states will go along with Dear Leader and reopen while blue states will do things on their own terms.

So it’s a good thing there are only two deep red states left.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2020 • 11:14:22am
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sagehen  Apr 17, 2020 • 11:27:07am

re: #335 Barefoot Grin

I would lay strong odds that when we hear that a bankrupt company with no employees got a huge contract to make masks, there are kickbacks; and when a GOP-donor’s company gets a nearly $600 million contract to build two sections of wall that is estimated to cost far less than that, there are kickbacks. I hope investigative reporters can find the shell companies Trump and Kushner are using to stash the cash.

Or possibly AG Kamala Harris can find out next year.

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unproven innocence  Apr 17, 2020 • 11:44:35am

re: #234 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I normally supplement my diet with a full range of vitamins and minerals, always have as my diet is often erratic and, shall we say, idiosyncratic.

But now with a big hoopla being made over vitamin D in regards to helping with Covid-19, I wonder when I go to the store today if any will be left on the shelf? Are we about to see a hoarding of vitamin D like we see in toilet paper?

I’m not particularly worried about individuals hoarding the available stockpiles. I worry more about the Feds confiscating much of the current supply and the means of production, and seeking to seize control of imports. Because “national security” —but really just corruption/theft/profiteering —like they’ve already done with stockpiles and shipments of PPE and ventilators.

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gocart mozart  Apr 17, 2020 • 11:47:25am
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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 17, 2020 • 11:50:56am

re: #307 goddamnedfrank

As I replied to you on Twitter:

I’ve been to the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone, back in 2009. It was beyond freaky.

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John Hughes  Apr 17, 2020 • 11:46:56pm

re: #316 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that’s all I ever sleep in, that and a t-shirt…never wore pyjamas in any form

You wear clothes in bed? How odd.


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