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Belafon  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:03:39am

For a brief moment, oil was trading at $.90/barrel, though it’s now up to $2.20.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:03:52am

WTAF?!

Oil at $0.13/bbl?

tradingview.com

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:05:27am

re: #2 Dr Lizardo

WTAF?!

Oil at $0.13/bbl?

tradingview.com

Buyers have nowhere to store it, so there is zero demand.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:05:43am

re: #1 Belafon

re: #2 Dr Lizardo

please keep in mind this is a commodity and being so prices can go up and down all day until there is a fix like the closing of the business.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:06:18am

re: #4 PhillyPretzel

please keep in mind this is a commodity and being so prices can go up and down all day until there is a fix like the closing of the business.

Oh, I know - but I gotta admit, my jaw dropped when I saw that.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:07:59am

re: #5 Dr Lizardo

Same here. I will wait for the end of the trading day. Five o’clock.

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retired cynic  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:08:29am

This is scary, and understandable. WaPo

Patients with heart attacks, strokes and even appendicitis vanish from hospitals

Soon after he repurposed his 60-bed cardiac unit to accommodate covid-19 patients, Mount Sinai cardiovascular surgeon John Puskas was stumped: With nearly all the beds now occupied by victims of the novel coronavirus, where had all the heart patients gone? Even those left almost speechless by crushing chest pain weren’t coming through the ER.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:09:23am

As I type this…..$0.01/bbl.

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BigPapa  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:10:18am

I’m ready to offer to store crude at my office if you pay me.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:10:26am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:12:01am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:12:48am

Chester County, PA COVID-19 stats (as of yesterday)

Confirmed Cases: 915 (+38)
Tested: 4905 (+130)
Deaths: 42 (+4) [12 of these in a single township]

Doubling rate about 10-11 days, I’d say that it’s definitely flattening out from a week ago.
Caveat: Things might boom in a weak or two since there was that stupid “open up” protest today at the State Capitol.

I plan on hunkering down and staying in place. Since supply run today the greatest shortage is probably going to be patience with reading about people being stupid about pandemic response.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:13:37am
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Belafon  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:14:41am

re: #4 PhillyPretzel

please keep in mind this is a commodity and being so prices can go up and down all day until there is a fix like the closing of the business.

Understood. But there’s low and there’s “During this time, I’ll throw in these kitchen knives for free.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:15:41am

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

One thing I could never figure out about the Mad Max movies, who was drilling, extracting and refining all the oil and gasoline that they needed for all their custom vehicles? Because THEY woulda own Bartertown.

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lawhawk  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:15:49am

Wherein the know nothing GOP tries to claim oil worth $0 a barrel is valuable and that this isn’t a sign of economic collapse (it is).

There is zero demand. There’s all these countries producing oil, and they’ve run out of places to store it. There’s only so many refineries and refined oil that can store the oil on tankers or in storage tanks.

It’s now cheaper to keep the oil in the ground than to drill it, process it, ship it, and store it.

And it’s a sign that none of this will improve until covid19 is under control. Trump’s actions have guaranteed that wont happen anytime soon, and all the rosy predictions that the economy will again grow in Q3 and Q4 are based on containment and reopening for business when there’s zero evidence that we’ll have containment by then, or even enough testing to do so without running up the death toll.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:15:50am

re: #11 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Just waiting for the head of the exchange to put the Duke Brothers seat up for sale…

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lawhawk  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:18:44am
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lizardofid  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:19:11am

re: #1 Belafon

For a brief moment, oil was trading at $.90/barrel, though it’s now up to $2.20.

Nordic American Tanker stock is liking it.
Link

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:20:05am

Has anyone checked in on Charles Koch to see if he’s putting the nitro tablets under his tongue?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:20:36am

“… A Facebook spokesperson told Motherboard over the weekend that the social network would allow protest events as long as they do not fall afoul of government guidance on social distancing, but will ban ones that do.

“Unless the government prohibits the event during this time, we allow it to be organized on Facebook,” the spokesperson wrote in an email. “For this same reason, events that defy government’s guidance on social distance aren’t allowed on Facebook. “

…”

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:20:55am

Kitco has oil at $.27 a barrel.
kitco.com

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Jack Burton  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:22:56am

re: #15 The Pie Overlord!

One thing I could never figure out about the Mad Max movies, who was drilling, extracting and refining all the oil and gasoline that they needed for all their custom vehicles? Because THEY woulda own Bartertown.

1st movie, civilization still existed but was starting to crash.

2nd movie, scavenging what was left.

3rd movie, the cars ran on methane from pig shit. Max’s truck was pulled by camels at the beginning.

4th movie/reboot, there was a refinery called Gas Town.

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Targetpractice  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:23:04am

re: #18 lawhawk

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TarHellion  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:24:26am

Now trading at negative-8 bucks. Does that mean stores will pay you to take their gas?

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retired cynic  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:25:27am

Email from Tammy Duckworth:

I was proud to vote in favor of the CARES Act which is providing critical financial resources to families and small businesses struggling due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

But so many small businesses — especially those in underserved or rural areas — don’t have relationships with the big lenders who are distributing most of these loans. That means unless we take proactive steps, these underserved communities will be hit even harder by this economic crisis, just as they were during the Great Recession in 2008.

That’s why recently, several of my Democratic colleagues and I wrote a joint letter to Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin and Small Business Administration Administrator Jovita Carranza, urging them to reserve CARES Act funds specifically for underserved businesses.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:25:53am

re: #23 Jack Burton

1st movie, civilization still existed but was starting to crash.

2nd movie, scavenging what was left.

3rd movie, the cars ran on methane from pig shit. Max’s truck was pulled by camels at the beginning.

4th movie/reboot, there was a refinery called Gas Town.

I liked the theory that Mad Max had eventually just become the person all unnamed heroic actions were attributed to. And that the stories, being retellings, were never completely what happened.

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lawhawk  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:26:58am

re: #25 TarHellion

Now trading at negative-8 bucks. Does that mean stores will pay you to take their gas?

These are the futures. And right now, there’s supply in the pipeline so to speak that was priced higher, which is what you’ll see at the gas pump for the next few weeks. But with slack demand, distributors aren’t going to be passing along the costs to consumers nearly as fast as when they pass along the higher costs. There’s always a disconnect when prices drop (wonder why that is…. /half).

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:27:09am

re: #23 Jack Burton

1st movie, civilization still existed but was starting to crash.

2nd movie, scavenging what was left.

3rd movie, the cars ran on methane from pig shit. Max’s truck was pulled by camels at the beginning.

4th movie/reboot, there was a refinery called Gas Town.

Didn’t the little enclave under siege in the 2nd movie have a well and some refining capacity - thus the reason they were under siege? (They certainly were using natural gas jet-like flame throwers as part of their defenses.)

And the post-script was about how they were hauling barrels of the “precious juice” out with them on the bus while the others took the tanker truck off the other way as a decoy.

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BigPapa  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:29:13am

re: #26 retired cynic

Tammy Duckworth is a name I don’t often hear when speaking of our Deep Bench. She’s solid.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:31:27am

re: #29 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Didn’t the little enclave under siege in the 2nd movie have a well and some refining capacity - thus the reason they were under siege? (They certainly were using natural gas jet-like flame throwers as part of their defenses.)

And the post-script was about how they were hauling barrels of the “precious juice” out with them on the bus while the others took the tanker truck off the other way as a decoy.

Yeah, they did. IIRC the backstory of Mad Max 2, Papagallo had been a worker at that small refinery, so he established a colony of sorts there - and that’s why Lord Humungus was besieging the place.

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Jack Burton  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:32:13am

re: #29 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Didn’t the little enclave under siege in the 2nd movie have a well and some refining capacity - thus the reason they were under siege? (They certainly were using natural gas jet-like flame throwers as part of their defenses.)

And the post-script was about how they were hauling barrels of the “precious juice” out with them on the bus while the others took the tanker truck off the other way as a decoy.

Yes but outside of that area, everyone was just scavenging gas from abandoned and wrecked cars.

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ericblair  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:32:48am

re: #28 lawhawk

These are the futures. And right now, there’s supply in the pipeline so to speak that was priced higher, which is what you’ll see at the gas pump for the next few weeks. But with slack demand, distributors aren’t going to be passing along the costs to consumers nearly as fast as when they pass along the higher costs. There’s always a disconnect when prices drop (wonder why that is…. /half).

Specifically, those are the May futures which expire tomorrow, where you’d take delivery this month. Which should be approximately equal to the spot price. So yep, producers would pay you to take it off their hands now, except you have to store it and it’s your problem. June futures for Brent crude are around $25/bbl, so we’ll see what happens with those.

I wonder what weird financial consequences this is going to have, since this has never happened before.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:33:35am
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Belafon  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:33:38am

$-11.42

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:34:20am

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TarHellion  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:35:36am

re: #35 Belafon

Find me a warehouse, Myrtle! They’re gonna pay me to store all the oil!

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Targetpractice  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:36:07am

Basically, it’s going to be a replay of Summer ‘08, only bailing out oil companies is gonna be a harder sell than bailing out banks and car companies. I foresee the Repubs having a very hard time arguing in an election year that the ideal situation is oil companies receiving a “no-strings” bailout.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:36:12am

re: #34 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

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I posted that because this:

In an ABC News interview, Dr. Anthony Fauci warned those protesting stay-at-home orders that their efforts would backfire.

Said Fauci: “If you jump the gun, and go into a situation where you have a big spike, you’re going to set yourself back. So as painful as it is to go by the careful guidelines of gradually phasing into a reopening — it’s going to backfire. That’s the problem.”

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Jack Burton  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:36:24am

re: #27 Belafon

I liked the theory that Mad Max had eventually just become the person all unnamed heroic actions were attributed to. And that the stories, being retellings, were never completely what happened.

I’m OK with that being the case for 3 and Fury Road. Mad Max 1 and 2/Road Warrior was directly linked. Roar Warrior was a direct sequel and nothing in it contradicted or retconned anything from the first film.

It was after those that George Miller stopped caring about logical consistency or continuity and just wanted to tell a cool story in that world. Thunderdome retconned the entire nature of the apocalypse for starters.

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William Lewis  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:37:44am

re: #27 Belafon

I liked the theory that Mad Max had eventually just become the person all unnamed heroic actions were attributed to. And that the stories, being retellings, were never completely what happened.

Robin Hood.
Arthur Pendragon
Mad Max.

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William Lewis  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:38:28am

re: #36 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

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I thought that to myself watching the clip.

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Targetpractice  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:38:34am

re: #41 William Lewis

Robin Hood.
Arthur Pendragon
Mad Max.

James Bond.

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Jay C  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:38:49am

So, just out of curiosity, I tried to go on gasbuddy.com to see what prices were like, and I got a weird message I have never seen before:

Error 503 Backend fetch failed
Backend fetch failed

Guru Meditation:
XID: 15237464

Varnish cache server

I’m guessing it means their site is borked for some reason or other (despair??), can any tech-savvy Lizards translate this??

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:39:19am

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Targetpractice  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:39:36am

re: #44 Jay C

So, just out of curiosity, I tried to go on gasbuddy.com to see what prices were like, and I got a weird message I have never seen before:

I guessing it means their site is borked for some reason or other (despair??), can any tech-savvy Lizards translate this??

They’re probably getting bombarded with people checking to see if oil prices cratering means gas prices are doing the same.

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ericblair  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:39:43am

re: #38 Targetpractice

Basically, it’s going to be a replay of Summer ‘08, only bailing out oil companies is gonna be a harder sell than bailing out banks and car companies. I foresee the Repubs having a very hard time arguing in an election year that the ideal situation is oil companies receiving a “no-strings” bailout.

Someone can go on the teevee and explain how much US taxes these companies have paid in the last few years. Tossing in the bullshit oil development tax credits and I’m pretty sure it’s in the negative billions.

If the last Koch goes bankrupt that will make my week.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:40:12am

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Kilroy was here  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:40:21am

With oil prices this low, Exxon/Mobil was forced to lay off its Members of Congress.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:40:28am

re: #38 Targetpractice

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Basically, it’s going to be a replay of Summer ‘08, only bailing out oil companies is gonna be a harder sell than bailing out banks and car companies. I foresee the Repubs having a very hard time arguing in an election year that the ideal situation is oil companies receiving a “no-strings” bailout.

The media will support them, and they will sell it just like they sell borrowing trillions to give massive tax cuts to the rich.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:42:37am

re: #50 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The media will support them, and they will sell it just like they sell borrowing trillions to give massive tax cuts to the rich.

When that happens I am beating every single “embarrassed Republican” libertarian I know over the head with it. (The only positive thing I will be able to make out that sort of disastrous decision.)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:42:42am

I clip TWO nails, and it’s as if his life has ended.

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:43:06am

re: #49 Kilroy was here

With oil prices this low, Exxon/Mobil was forced to lay off its Members of Congress.

Trump was so focused on saving coal that he didn’t even look at oil!

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:43:12am

re: #37 TarHellion

Find me a warehouse, Myrtle! They’re gonna pay me to store all the oil!

$-35.20. I wonder when my company’s going to start storing them in the cubes of people who are working from home.

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Jay C  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:43:38am

re: #46 Targetpractice

They’re probably getting bombarded with people checking to see if oil prices cratering means gas prices are doing the same.

I thought something like that: but “Guru Meditation”??

Are all gasbuddy’s IT people off in the yoga studio or what??

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Kilroy was here  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:43:42am

(Stolen with pride)
With oil prices so low, Saudis may have to economize by using hand tools to dismember journalists…

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Jack Burton  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:44:12am

re: #47 ericblair

If the last Koch goes bankrupt that will make my week.

If anyone does, I’d rather it be a bunch of Russian Oligarchs that are using oil billions to try to take over the world (or at least position themselves as Eastern Hemisphere Hegemon) via chaos.

Installing idiots as the heads of state/government in the US, UK, and several other countries and helping prop up a Chinese house of cards… if that completely bites Putin in the ass and brings the whole scheme crashing down… I’ll throw a party as soon as it’s safe.

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lawhawk  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:44:45am

re: #54 Belafon

You get a barrel!
You get a barrel!

Everyone gets a barrel! /oprah

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makeitstop  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:44:47am

re: #41 William Lewis

Robin Hood.
Arthur Pendragon
Mad Max.

Q

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BigPapa  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:44:54am

re: #48 Flying Squirrel Girl

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:45:06am

re: #48 Flying Squirrel Girl

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:45:16am
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Targetpractice  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:45:40am

re: #50 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The media will support them, and they will sell it just like they sell borrowing trillions to give massive tax cuts to the rich.

It’s gonna be a seriously hard sell, especially after the Great Recession. Bailing out banks was already hard enough, and that’s a service industry that’s pretty much seen as a necessary evil in even the best of times. And voters at least tolerated the auto bailout if for no other reason than worry about their own car’s warranty being honored.

Oil companies? Voters may end up supporting a bailout, if only to avoid millions of jobs being lost, but there’s no way in Hell the media’s gonna sell them on a “no-strings” bailout. If Repubs seriously try to push that, they’re gonna pay a heavy political price.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:46:49am

The oil ticker at CNN is busted. The % down is so negative they dropped the hundreds digit.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:48:29am

re: #64 Belafon

Kitco is still up and running. Oil is at $.26.
kitco.com

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ericblair  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:49:54am

re: #57 Jack Burton

If anyone does, I’d rather it be a bunch of Russian Oligarchs that are using oil billions to try to take over the world (or at least position themselves as Eastern Hemisphere Hegemon) via chaos.

Installing idiots as the heads of state/government in the US, UK, and several other countries and helping prop up a Chinese house of cards… if that completely bites Putin in the ass and brings the whole scheme crashing down… I’ll throw a party as soon as it’s safe.

See, that wouldn’t make my week: that would make my decade. Law of unintended fucking consequences indeed.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:50:04am

I’ve been thinking that while China is far more diversified than Russia, a tanked US economy would mean the shuttering of numerous factories in China, and that could mean social unrest the likes of which they’ve been trying to avoid since 1989. Of course, the average Chinese citizen is far better off than he or she was in the 1980s. Any number of scenarios are possible, including nothing much happening at all except that unemployment is managed and people go about their daily lives—that, of course, would be the best. When China goes through throes of social unrest, historically, it can get to be epic in violence and damage.

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William Lewis  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:50:28am

There goes the Volunteer Fire Department siren again. Kyrie eleision.

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Targetpractice  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:51:33am

Let’s take a moment to think of the people being hurt most by today’s chaos:

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BigPapa  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:51:48am

Russia is fooked. Oil bottoming, CV decimating them… might have to pull back on the troll farming and subterfuge.

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ericblair  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:52:42am

re: #64 Belafon

The oil ticker at CNN is busted. The % down is so negative they dropped the hundreds digit.

I’m not a finance guy and this is getting super weird, but it looks like a lot of paper traders are desperate to unload their contracts before they expire and then they DO have to deal with tanker cars full of crude showing up on their doorsteps.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:54:02am

We need to move off gasoline onto a carbon-neutral fuel, but everything is likely crashing now. It would be ironic if the pandemic deals the fatal blow to the oil industry. And it would also deal fatal blows to certain national economies. Looking forward to the end of Putin’s reign but he is a brilliant manipulator so he will likely find some way to survive this collapse, assuming the other oligarchs don’t take him out.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:54:41am
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lawhawk  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:55:31am
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Jay C  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:56:58am

re: #70 BigPapa

Russia is fooked. Oil bottoming, CV decimating them… might have to pull back on the troll farming and subterfuge.

Naah, I’m guessing they’ll be more likely to double down: after all, there won’t be too many other “growth industries” in the Motherland in the near-term…

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TarHellion  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:58:11am

re: #58 lawhawk

It’ll be like the government cheese giveaway in the 1980s!

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Targetpractice  Apr 20, 2020 • 11:59:20am

Something tells me that when the bailout of the oil companies does happen, there won’t be any wingnuts making jokes about “Government Oil.”

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:00:28pm

re: #77 Targetpractice

Hmm. There may be a few jokes.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:01:32pm

re: #75 Jay C

Naah, I’m guessing they’ll be more likely to double down: after all, there won’t be too many other “growth industries” in the Motherland in the near-term…

Yeah, I remember Bill Browder McFaul telling a joke he said represents the Russian psyche: “a jinn appears to a Russian man and tells him that he can wish for anything he wants and he’ll get it, but his enemy will get the same thing; so he says, ‘ok, I wish to have my eyes put out.’” (Or something like that.)

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Targetpractice  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:01:33pm

re: #78 PhillyPretzel

Hmm. There may be a few jokes.

Probably. After all, the Big Three Bailout was orchestrated by the Dubya admin, yet wingnuts to this day attribute it solely to Obama.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:03:07pm

re: #79 Barefoot Grin

Yeah, I remember Bill Browder saying telling a joke he said represents the Russian psyche: “a jinn appears to a Russian man and tells him that he can wish for anything he wants and he’ll get it, but his enemy will get the same thing; so he says, ‘ok, I wish to have my eyes put out.’” (Or something like that.)

The variant I recall is that the enemy gets double what he gets. So the man wishes for having one of his eyes put out.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:03:12pm

Weren’t the oil companies raking in billions in profits just a few short years ago?

/

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Dread Pirate  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:03:51pm

I though my stock app died when I saw -$36.47 on the oil chart, then I checked CNN Money, and yep.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:05:15pm

re: #80 Targetpractice

Probably. After all, the Big Three Bailout was orchestrated by the Dubya admin, yet wingnuts to this day attribute it solely to Obama.

The GOP and Fox News will promote, and the media will uncritically report, that the fossil fuel industry are great American companies that employ millions, the economy will be permanently crippled without them, they are critical for national security, yada, yada.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:05:43pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:06:29pm

re: #84 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The GOP and Fox News will promote, and the media will uncritically report, that the fossil fuel industry are great American companies that employ millions, the economy will be permanently crippled without them, they are critical for national security, yada, yada.

And then, by next spring, will be accusing Biden of “socialism” for thinking that the companies should have to show some loyalty to the country by paying additional taxes or in some way supporting the economic recovery.

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BigPapa  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:08:18pm

re: #75 Jay C

Naah, I’m guessing they’ll be more likely to double down: after all, there won’t be too many other “growth industries” in the Motherland in the near-term…

The thing about the troll farms: it’s cheap as far as warfare goes. The IRA is a 3 or 4 story office building: chump change to run per year as opposed to navy ships and air power.

He bought off Trump and helped him get elected for less than the price of 1.72 F35’s.

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aatharuv  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:11:12pm

re: #71 ericblair

I’m not a finance guy and this is getting super weird, but it looks like a lot of paper traders are desperate to unload their contracts before they expire and then they DO have to deal with tanker cars full of crude showing up on their doorsteps.

That’s basically it. So the real reason oil is at -$40/barrel (yes, negative 40) is because there’s a place in Oklahoma which is running out of space. West Texas Intermediate crude needs to be settled there.

Brent Crude isn’t doing as badly because it doesn’t have as many limitations on where it can be settled.
The real reason oil futures plunged on Monday

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:11:17pm

re: #17 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just waiting for the head of the exchange to put the Duke Brothers seat up for sale…

FUCK HIM!

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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:11:24pm

You know, if the Trump administration was smart, they would be using this as an opportunity to completely fill up the Strategic Petroleum Reserves (currently we are around 75 million barrels below capacity), which would in turn serve to alleviate the pressure of overabundance which is being caused by COVID-19 reducing travel by a whole lot.

But then again, it’s been well established time and again that Donald Trump is not a smart man.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:12:41pm

re: #18 lawhawk

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So I could steal a shitload of it and it wouldn’t even be petty larceny, I would have just been removing worthless items.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:13:26pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:15:01pm

re: #90 Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!

You know, if the Trump administration was smart, they would be using this as an opportunity to completely fill up the Strategic Petroleum Reserves (currently we are around 75 million barrels below capacity), which would in turn serve to alleviate the pressure of overabundance which is being caused by COVID-19 reducing travel by a whole lot.

But then again, it’s been well established time and again that Donald Trump is not a smart man.

An article on WaPo is making that argument right now.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:15:11pm

re: #90 Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!

You know, if the Trump administration was smart, they would be using this as an opportunity to completely fill up the Strategic Petroleum Reserves (currently we are around 75 million barrels below capacity), which would in turn serve to alleviate the pressure of overabundance which is being caused by COVID-19 reducing travel by a whole lot.

But then again, it’s been well established time and again that Donald Trump is not a smart man.

“It’s the job of the states to keep the reserve full.”

(As states buy oil for their own reserves, FEMA steals it to restock the national supply.)

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aatharuv  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:15:43pm

re: #90 Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!

You know, if the Trump administration was smart, they would be using this as an opportunity to completely fill up the Strategic Petroleum Reserves (currently we are around 75 million barrels below capacity), which would in turn serve to alleviate the pressure of overabundance which is being caused by COVID-19 reducing travel by a whole lot.

But then again, it’s been well established time and again that Donald Trump is not a smart man.

Another thing, if gas prices remain low, is that a different administration could have used this as a safe time to raise federal gas taxes when it’s _less_ harmful*, and keep them when the crisis is over. We really do need to move from fossil fuels.

India used a similar oil price low to reduce _subsidies_ on certain types of fuels, which were a massive drain on the budget, and mostly being taken advantage of by the middle classes and the rich.

*With rebates for essential workers of course.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:16:59pm

re: #90 Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!

You know, if the Trump administration was smart, they would be using this as an opportunity to completely fill up the Strategic Petroleum Reserves (currently we are around 75 million barrels below capacity), which would in turn serve to alleviate the pressure of overabundance which is being caused by COVID-19 reducing travel by a whole lot.

But then again, it’s been well established time and again that Donald Trump is not a smart man.

Forget the myths that the media has created about the White House.
The truth is, these are not very bright guys…

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:19:48pm

420.

This is probably the most excessive thing I’ve ever seen when it comes to cannabis consumption.

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lawhawk  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:19:52pm

re: #90 Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!

You know, if the Trump administration was smart, they would be using this as an opportunity to completely fill up the Strategic Petroleum Reserves (currently we are around 75 million barrels below capacity), which would in turn serve to alleviate the pressure of overabundance which is being caused by COVID-19 reducing travel by a whole lot.

But then again, it’s been well established time and again that Donald Trump is not a smart man.

They were trying to do that back when the oil futures were at $30. They backed out of that plan and instead suggested that producers rent the space instead.

Neither plan looks good especially since producers need to pay someone to take it off their hands. Trump’s options are to essentially bail out oil producers and piss off most Americans, or not bail out the oil producers and watch his oil masters beat on him.

Fuck Trump. He fucked all of this up, and the oil companies don’t deserve or need bailout.

But for Trump’s failed actions, he could have limited the downside risk of the economic effects of covid19. Instead, he took the worst possible actions and guaranteed spread, and maximized the carnage.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:20:28pm

so this guy:

Before President Trump tapped Adm. Brett Giroir to be the nation’s “coronavirus testing czar,” he was the head of vaccine development at Texas A&M University. And in 2015, he was given the choice of either resigning or being fired from that job because he wasn’t acting like a “team player,” the Washington Post reports.

rando commenter creating context:

There are literally dozens of Admirals and Generals who are logistics experts that Trump could chose from, and he manages to pick a guy who failed so bad he was forced to resign. If sucking and doing the absolute wrong thing were equivalent to getting a hole in one, Trump would be playing a Kim-Jong-Un 18 hole round of golf where he cards a final score of 18. Statistically totally impossible but somehow he’s doing it.

while other rando points out the logic:

But after eight years of work on several vaccine projects, Giroir was told in 2015 he had 30 minutes to resign or he would be fired. His annual performance evaluation at Texas A&M, the local newspaper reported, said he was “more interested in promoting yourself” than the health science center where he worked. He got low marks on being a “team player.”

Donald spots a kindred spirit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:21:54pm

re: #97 teleskiguy

Duuuuude, that’s crazy.

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lawhawk  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:22:03pm

re: #93 stpaulbear

75 million barrels of capacity? We produce about 12.5 million barrels per day. That means that given the glut, we’d max out the SPR in some fashion of rental or purchase within a week.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:25:28pm

re: #97 teleskiguy

I’m restocking the stash today.

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danarchy  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:25:42pm

re: #90 Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!

You know, if the Trump administration was smart, they would be using this as an opportunity to completely fill up the Strategic Petroleum Reserves (currently we are around 75 million barrels below capacity), which would in turn serve to alleviate the pressure of overabundance which is being caused by COVID-19 reducing travel by a whole lot.

But then again, it’s been well established time and again that Donald Trump is not a smart man.

Even a blind squirrel yadda yadda. Trump’s been calling to fill the SPR for weeks.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:26:05pm

re: #97 teleskiguy

420.

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Smacks of effort, also Michael Douglas did it better in Romancing the Stone

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:27:10pm

re: #104 goddamnedfrank

Smacks of effort, also Michael Douglas did it better in Romancing the Stone

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:27:52pm

Just got the not at all surprising news that Kentucky schools are out for the rest of this school year. I will also not be surprised if remote learning continues in the Fall.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:28:01pm
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Eventual Carrion  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:28:40pm

re: #70 BigPapa

Russia is fooked. Oil bottoming, CV decimating them… might have to pull back on the troll farming and subterfuge.

They are going to need to keep a few if they want to knock off Donnie and blame it on the Dems. Someone has to stroke these dimwits correctly so they “understand” who assassinated their leader. Then civil war 2. Total USA unrest. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:29:51pm

re: #33 ericblair

I wonder what weird financial consequences this is going to have, since this has never happened before.

he biggest players will get bailed out because they have been blessed with Freedom from Moral Risk.

This is Late Stage Capitalism/Mercantilism you know, the Free Market is just for show…

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William Lewis  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:30:08pm

re: #102 Dread Pirate

I’m restocking the stash today.

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Gah. What I’d give for some place selling edibles or gummies within easy driving distance of here. I’m a lightweight, I don’t need much … < pouts >

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Dread Pirate  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:32:34pm

re: #110 William Lewis

Gah. What I’d give for some place selling edibles or gummies within easy driving distance of here. I’m a lightweight, I don’t need much … < pouts >

They deliver to the door too….
America, what a country!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:33:06pm

The Covid Count for my friends has risen to 12.

5 passed away

3 recovered

4 in hospital.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:33:10pm

re: #84 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The GOP and Fox News will promote, and the media will uncritically report, that the fossil fuel industry are great American companies that employ millions, the economy will be permanently crippled without them, they are critical for national security, yada, yada.

What’s good for Standard Oil…

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:33:34pm

re: #82 Eclectic Cyborg

Weren’t the oil companies raking in billions in profits just a few short years ago?

/

Again, bootstrap shortage. Can’t be found for any price.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:35:24pm

re: #102 Dread Pirate

$57 for an eighth??? That’s… expensive. You in Cali? At the local weed store here in Colorado prices are $35/eighth for top shelf flower, $27/eighth for regular kind bud.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:35:28pm

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:35:43pm

re: #84 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The GOP and Fox News will promote, and the media will uncritically report, that the fossil fuel industry are great American companies that employ millions, the economy will be permanently crippled without them, they are critical for national security, yada, yada.

Then I want the oil companies to forgo their subsidies permanently also.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:36:02pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:36:18pm

re: #116 Omar Comin’ Yo

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Can’t do at all because of the tinkle tests I have to take…

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:36:44pm

re: #117 Eventual Carrion

Then I want the oil companies to forgo their subsidies permanently also.

LOL, not going to happen.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:37:55pm

Dude. We just grow our own!

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:38:44pm

re: #119 Joe Bacon 🌹

I had piss test roulette for years. I feel your pain.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:39:16pm

re: #92 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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And Joe Joe the Monkey boy with the flag wrapped around him like a security blanket.

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makeitstop  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:39:22pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:40:30pm

Chat Noir sez, “I haz the nip too!”

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:40:36pm

I’ve been thinking all day about my future in the photojournalism business, particularly in sports that’s the biggest chunk of that income. I think that even if the NFL starts on time, I’d be surprised if still photographers will be allowed. Same with all other major sports until there’s a vaccine, which would be next MLB opening day at the earliest. That’s a full year, and that may be an optimistic projection. I’ve already settled that I will not be shooting any baseball or basketball for the rest of 2020.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:41:46pm
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Eventual Carrion  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:41:52pm

re: #95 aatharuv

[snip]

India used a similar oil price low to reduce _subsidies_ on certain types of fuels, which were a massive drain on the budget, and mostly being taken advantage of by the middle classes and the rich.

*With rebates for essential workers of course.

There you go, abolish subsidies. They have been making historic profit for years and we have given them subsidies as if they are an ailing, fledgling business. Fuck them.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:43:21pm

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:45:20pm

re: #129 teleskiguy
DO NOT FOR ANY REASON DO IT.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:45:39pm

re: #129 teleskiguy

I

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:46:13pm

re: #130 Ace Rothstein

I don’t plan on it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:46:42pm

re: #129 teleskiguy

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:47:16pm

re: #129 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:48:28pm

re: #134 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:48:31pm

re: #132 teleskiguy

I’m not suggesting you do any. If I was in your shoes I’d be a very good boy.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:50:12pm

So far oil seems to be holding at $.26 a barrel

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:50:40pm

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You know what they don’t test for in urinalysis tests? LSD and psilocybin mushrooms.

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Teukka  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:51:14pm

Whistles innocently as he drops off a pic:

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William Lewis  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:52:15pm

re: #126 Ace Rothstein

I’ve been thinking all day about my future in the photojournalism business, particularly in sports that’s the biggest chunk of that income. I think that even if the NFL starts on time, I’d be surprised if still photographers will be allowed. Same with all other major sports until there’s a vaccine, which would be next MLB opening day at the earliest. That’s a full year, and that may be an optimistic projection. I’ve already settled that I will not be shooting any baseball or basketball for the rest of 2020.

That’s gotta suck. You do really good work too from the things you’ve posted and from my own meager attempts at sports photography. Doing artsy-fartsy landscapes like I do doesn’t make any money but that’s ok since it isn’t my job unlike you and sports.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:53:35pm
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ckkatz  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:55:12pm

Thank you to the lizards that recommended Steady Clothing face masks last week.

They just emailed me that the masks I ordered (last Friday) are on the way. Yay!

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:58:04pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:58:21pm

re: #126 Ace Rothstein

I’ve been thinking all day about my future in the photojournalism business, particularly in sports that’s the biggest chunk of that income. I think that even if the NFL starts on time, I’d be surprised if still photographers will be allowed. Same with all other major sports until there’s a vaccine, which would be next MLB opening day at the earliest. That’s a full year, and that may be an optimistic projection. I’ve already settled that I will not be shooting any baseball or basketball for the rest of 2020.

I would have thought the opposite. I can imagine them going too far on the personnel allowed. But every place that was buying your work will still want it maybe more because the fans can’t be there. That should up the media appetite. But I’m totally ignorant of the circles you run in. Very sorry to hear this might put you out even then. Could it be you are “essential” as a street journalist, able to comply with distancing? Good luck really wish you well.

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lawhawk  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:59:02pm

re: #130 Ace Rothstein

DO NOT FOR ANY REASON DO IT.

Seconded.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:59:13pm

A get-out that would have been confronted by a manager in a store (and especially a bank) just a few months ago.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 20, 2020 • 12:59:24pm

re: #141 teleskiguy

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Barrel of hand sanitizer.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:00:07pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:03:01pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:03:13pm

According to the yahoo ticker, oil lost 300% of its value today.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:04:28pm

re: #150 NO SMOCKING GUN!

and Kitco still has oil at $.26 a barrel

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stpaulbear  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:04:41pm

re: #150 NO SMOCKING GUN!

According to the yahoo ticker, oil lost 300% of its value today.

It’s twice as far underwater as it started out today?

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:05:55pm

Covidiot wanted by the local sheriff’s department.

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sagehen  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:06:47pm

re: #97 teleskiguy

420.

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They should at least distribute goggles before doing that…

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Dave In Austin  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:07:39pm

re: #151 PhillyPretzel

and Kitco still has oil at $.26 a barrel

Imagonna say that number is a placeholder at this point. What’s the suicide rate in the Permian Basin and in Houston right now?

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:08:41pm

re: #155 Dave In Austin

I have no idea.

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sagehen  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:09:23pm

re: #102 Dread Pirate

I’m restocking the stash strategic reserves today.

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Teukka  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:09:52pm

re: #150 NO SMOCKING GUN!

According to the yahoo ticker, oil lost 300% of its value today.

re: #151 PhillyPretzel

and Kitco still has oil at $.26 a barrel

re: #155 Dave In Austin

Imagonna say that number is a placeholder at this point. What’s the suicide rate in the Permian Basin and in Houston right now?

Before we hear the cries “pics or it didn’t happen”:

Yep. Really happened. What I don’t get is how they arrive at 300%.
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:10:45pm
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thecommodore  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:11:50pm

Here’s a page I wrote up about Greg Sargent’s column today in the Washington Post.

Echos of Tea Party bad craziness.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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stpaulbear  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:13:08pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ashton Pittman
@ashtonpittman
Only 8% of people Mississippians say the state has “gone too far” with social distancing & our shelter-at-home order.

But what to dog and cat Missisippians say?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:13:36pm

So, has anyone figured out what exactly Trump and Putin and BoneSaw agreed to? Did they decide to end the world?

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:14:13pm

re: #158 Teukka

Before we hear the cries “pics or it didn’t happen”:

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Many years ago, I lived in Venezuela when oil hit $11/bbl, and the country imploded. They’re in worse shape now, and the head of PDVSA (state oil co) is apparently missing.

Mexico, Ecuador & Bolivia are going to take a real hit too.

Nigeria, Malaysia, the UAE, Iran, Iraq & of course Russia are all heading for the abyss.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:15:37pm

re: #158 Teukka

I think they broke the %-o-meter thingy.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:16:18pm

I’m hoping we get someone to say “But if we’d been doing the Green New Deal, we’d be having to figure out where to store the excess wind.”

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:16:46pm

Conservatives already attacking the Denver nurses who blocked the anti-social distancing protesters, on Facebook and YouTube. Calling them “Democrat Operatives” and “Fake Nurses” because “they’re not in the hospital helping patients.” There is no bottom with these people.

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ckkatz  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:16:47pm

From last thread:

re: #432 Barefoot Grin

I remember reading somewhere that the later crusades had a whole lot less to do with religion than with the fact that western Europeans got their first taste of spices and really good food and that was an inducement to return.

I listened to a ‘Great Courses’ series of lectures on the History of Food recently. It was like dining with an interesting and entertaining dinner partner.

The lecturer talked about everything from the Roman use of fish sauce, through the spice trade driven discoveries, to how Aztecs served their human sacrifices. He also talked about the cultural, political, sociological, psychological and theological issues.

It really made me appreciate how even a meal can be an experience in human history and culture. I found it a fascinating set of lectures.

While I like ‘Great Courses’, I cannot see paying full price. It might be available for free through your public library. For those going that route, it is available through Audible. Several times a year, it is on sale for 70%-90% off ‘list price’ at Great Courses. Generally I prefer listing to audio only as video requires a large commitment of time to sitting and watching.

thegreatcourses.com

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:17:31pm

re: #165 Belafon

more batteries. Turbines are generators batteries are use for storage. Similar to solar.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:17:59pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:18:29pm

Remember this pass and shot?

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:19:10pm

re: #168 PhillyPretzel

more batteries. Turbines are generators batteries are use for storage. Similar to solar.

I get that. I mean it literally.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:19:42pm

What I’m waiting to see is what happens when all the loans that have been given to the fracking companies go bad.

The world’s largest investment banks have provided more than $700bn of financing for the fossil fuel companies most aggressively expanding in new coal, oil and gas projects since the Paris climate change agreement, figures show.

The financing has been led by the Wall Street giant JPMorgan Chase, which has provided $75bn (£61bn) to companies expanding in sectors such as fracking and Arctic oil and gas exploration, according to the analysis.

The New York bank is one of 33 powerful financial institutions to have provided an estimated total of $1.9tn to the fossil fuel sector between 2016 and 2018.

Since then, they doubled down with another $2 trillion in loans.

That’s $4 TRILLION that just went belly-up. And that’s just the frackers. Exxon, Shell, etc. were in for another $6 trillion.

Banks are about to take a hit. If you can, get your money out in the form of cash, SOON.

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austin_blue  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:20:11pm

re: #158 Teukka

Before we hear the cries “pics or it didn’t happen”:

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Damnedest thing I’ve ever seen.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:20:18pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:20:56pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:22:50pm

re: #165 Belafon

I’m hoping we get someone to say “But if we’d been doing the Green New Deal, we’d be having to figure out where to store the excess wind.”

Well, there is Trump complaining that you can’t turn on the TV if the wind isn’t blowing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:25:37pm

re: #172 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

What I’m waiting to see is what happens when all the loans that have been given to the fracking companies go bad.

Since then, they doubled down with another $2 trillion in loans.

That’s $4 TRILLION that just went belly-up. And that’s just the frackers. Exxon, Shell, etc. were in for another $6 trillion.

Banks are about to take a hit. If you can, get your money out in the form of cash, SOON.

Imagine if they had gone through with the Keystone pipeline…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:27:13pm

re: #172 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Banks are about to take a hit. If you can, get your money out in the form of cash, SOON.

Seems a little bit too much scare there.

Another round of bank consolidations and re-liquidifying (is that word?) is likely.

But money is an abstract since the invention of the Feds, and the FDIC insurance still means $100k is recoverable. The Treasury will simply print more and the Fed distribute enough to cover all insurance claims.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:27:14pm

re: #165 Belafon

I’m hoping we get someone to say “But if we’d been doing the Green New Deal, we’d be having to figure out where to store the excess wind.”

That issue has been solved: use the excess power to run an air compressor and literally store the excess wind in tanks to run the generators when the wind dies down.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:27:41pm

re: #165 Belafon

I’m hoping we get someone to say “But if we’d been doing the Green New Deal, we’d be having to figure out where to store the excess wind.”

Not to mention how to deal with the skyrocketing cases of wind cancer.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:28:13pm

re: #158 Teukka

Before we hear the cries “pics or it didn’t happen”:

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“The unusually large difference in price between oil now and then has traders filling up tankers and setting them adrift. The bet is that the coronavirus pandemic runs its course and later this year demand for oil—and thus its price—will jump.”

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:31:01pm

re: #177 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Imagine if they had gone through with the Keystone pipeline…

YouTube

Getting this feeling pretty hard today.

This pandemic is exposing a lot of the lies that America has been telling itself for the last 40 years. About capitalism, health care, “greed is good,” and the wisdom of rich folks.

I look forward to the Fox News higher-ups, Sinclair Broadcasting, OANN, Breitbart, et al. getting dragged through the streets behind jeeps & strung up from streetlamps. The “Full Mussolini” for these savages. They have destroyed the U.S., and strangled the world with useless debt for what? 50 people?

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:32:11pm

re: #178 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Seems a little bit too much scare there.

Another round of bank consolidations and re-liquidifying (is that word?) is likely.

But money is an abstract since the invention of the Feds, and the FDIC insurance still means $100k is recoverable. The Treasury will simply print more and the Fed distribute enough to cover all insurance claims.

Maybe. But the US government is already drowning in debt. How much more can be shoveled in before the whole machine just breaks down? What happens when the entire banking system locks up and the cash machines stop spitting out $20s?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:33:44pm

Covid 19 coronavirus: Sir Richard Branson’s Virgin Australia airline set for voluntary administration

Branson is only a minority owner at this point. Still, Australia may lose it’s only meaningful competitor to Quantas.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:34:50pm

re: #183 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Maybe. But the US government is already drowning in debt. How much more can be shoveled in before the whole machine just breaks down? What happens when the entire banking system locks up and the cash machines stop spitting out $20s?

Banking software can handle more zeros. Not sure how many, but if the software handles 64 bit words, then quite a bit more.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:37:13pm

re: #177 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Imagine if they had gone through with the Keystone pipeline…

this close:

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:38:29pm

re: #183 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Maybe. But the US government is already drowning in debt. How much more can be shoveled in before the whole machine just breaks down? What happens when the entire banking system locks up and the cash machines stop spitting out $20s?

you mean an unprecedented, who could have seen it coming, no one ever planned for this, kind of event?

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:38:47pm

re: #172 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

What I’m waiting to see is what happens when all the loans that have been given to the fracking companies go bad.

Since then, they doubled down with another $2 trillion in loans.

That’s $4 TRILLION that just went belly-up. And that’s just the frackers. Exxon, Shell, etc. were in for another $6 trillion.

Banks are about to take a hit. If you can, get your money out in the form of cash, SOON.

Yep - like the old saying goes, shit rolls downhill.

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Teukka  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:38:59pm

re: #186 Teukka

Like, the look in the poor animals eyes, it has seen some bad shit…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:39:50pm

The 33 Dumbest Signs From “Reopen” Protests Across The U.S.

Not sure BuzzFeed captured all the dumbest ones.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:40:48pm

re: #186 Teukka

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some car company exec:
next time we write a user manual be sure to include that seatbelts are not intended for eagles.

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gocart mozart  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:41:23pm

re: #170 gocart mozart

Looked up to see what Scott Burrell doing now and he is the head coach at Southern Connecticut after spending the 1990s mostly sitting on the bench for the Chicago Bulls and not getting along with michael Jordan.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:42:18pm

re: #186 Teukka

That’s the stare when you discover exactly who and what most of your neighbors are.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:42:36pm

Time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards and stay healthy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:43:02pm

re: #195 Dr Lizardo

Time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards and stay healthy.

Here likewise!

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:44:19pm

re: #81 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The variant I recall is that the enemy gets double what he gets. So the man wishes for having one of his eyes put out.

That’s it. Much funnier that way.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:45:12pm

re: #180 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Not to mention how to deal with the skyrocketing cases of wind cancer.

Windmillinoma is a scourge. We must find a cure.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:45:56pm

re: #191 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The 33 Dumbest Signs From “Reopen” Protests Across The U.S.

Not sure BuzzFeed captured all the dumbest ones.

serious question:

if you wont wear a mask - as many of them say they wont - can a business refuse them entry?

and does it matter whether there’s a state order or not?

my business, my property, my employees, my responsibility for their safety

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:46:55pm

re: #199 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

No shirt no shoes no service.
You as a business owner can make your own dress code.
Shirts must have collar.
No jeans.
No hats.
No sports team jackets ( gangs)

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:48:43pm

re: #37 TarHellion

Find me a warehouse, Myrtle! They’re gonna pay me to store all the oil!

I’m trying to remember the famous economist that this actually happened to. This guy was trading corn futures, but he couldn’t find a buyer. He therefore was forced to take delivery of the corn.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:50:33pm

re: #201 Sherlock Hound

This is one reason why I absolutely refuse to trade commodities.

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Citizen K  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:52:30pm
Fuck this shit, I need a fucking drink.
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:53:37pm

re: #172 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Here’s an analysis on all that is fossil fuel right now, with some background on the current crises and the fact that bailouts-are-a-coming….

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lizardofid  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:54:24pm

Nordic American Tankers wound up closing up 20% for the day. I reckon folks expect their dance card to be full for a spell.

Link

Later all, stay safe!

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Mike Lamb  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:55:35pm

re: #203 Citizen K

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Set a new date for the “peak” in Georgia…

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gocart mozart  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:56:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:57:01pm
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Citizen K  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:57:10pm

re: #206 Mike Lamb

It gets better:

IOW, if your city or municipality wants to enact more protections? Too bad, fuck you, state says you can’t, too bad, so sad, we’re all in this death march to economic bliss together.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:58:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:58:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:59:18pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 20, 2020 • 1:59:22pm

From The Washington Post PA has over 1300 deaths from this virus. Philly has over 300 deaths.

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sagehen  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:00:29pm

re: #187 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

this close:

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Reminds me of the people who lost their homes in Kelo v. City of New London.

They got eminent domain’d for a commercial redevelopment, supposedly on the grounds that tax revenues from the proposed business park would be enormous.

The case dragged on for years, finally decided in 2005. The homeowners lost, their houses were bull-dozed… and then in the crash the whole redevelopment got scrapped and it’s now an empty lot. For awhile, after Hurricane Irene, it was used as a dumping site for organic storm debris (dead trees, etc). The people who had to move — oh, well, too bad, so sad.

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jaunte  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:00:47pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nothing against the people that do that work, but that list doesn’t seem essential business.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:00:49pm

re: #206 Mike Lamb

Set a new date for the “peak” in Georgia…

To add…IHME has a new feature estimating when states can ease social distancing restrictions. They already seemed optimistic, particularly given that, nationally, we peaked (assuming we have even peaked) higher/later than IHME predicted. Anyways—IHME states that Georgia probably can’t consider relaxing social distancing until the second week of June. So…good luck everyone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:01:02pm

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

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lawhawk  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:01:27pm

Fuck the GOP.

Federal Appeals court rules that Texas can limit medication abortions during pandemic, all while the right wing lunatics claim that they have the right to expose themselves to covid19 and die or infect others with the disease. It was never about being pro-life. It was always about the control of women.

Meanwhile, the SCOTUS found that a jury must unanimously convict in order to find someone guilty of serious crimes - ending a practice in states like LA and MS that allowed split verdicts to still result in convictions.

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jaunte  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:01:57pm

He had a very toned corpse, and her nails were perfect.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:02:40pm

re: #219 jaunte

He had a very toned corpse, and her nails were perfect.

and the hair…THE HAIR!!!

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Decatur Deb  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:02:46pm

re: #215 jaunte

Nothing against the people that do that work, but that list doesn’t seem essential business.

About a week ago I asked Wife if we still had that old electric dog clipper.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:05:32pm

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I have questions, because I imagine it takes some actual work to fuck up social distancing at a wind power facility.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:06:00pm
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William Lewis  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:06:09pm

re: #221 Decatur Deb

About a week ago I asked Wife if we still had that old electric dog clipper.

Nice thing about using a shemagh as a mask - even pulled aside no one sees how long my hair has gotten :D

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:07:22pm

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

I will take his word one DT’s any day. Now will the rest of the nation do so.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:07:37pm

ExtremeTech wrote a story covering the Santa Clara tests about which I wrote that huge comment the other day:

How Deadly Is COVID-19? New Stanford Study Raises as Many Questions as It Answers

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:07:44pm

re: #222 goddamnedfrank

I have questions, because I imagine it takes some actual work to fuck up social distancing at a wind power facility.

I just realized, they probably drove whole ass work teams out to job sites in large vans ‘n shit.

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Teukka  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:08:18pm

re: #210 teleskiguy

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jaunte  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:09:52pm
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William Lewis  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:10:13pm

Ah, Kraft Mac & Cheese: Neon Yellow comfort food.

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jaunte  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:10:55pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:11:56pm

My strategic stockpile is about three pinch hits. So I’ll be on the 420 wagon for a couple of months at least, as MA isn’t predicted to peak and start receding until mid June. This is not a problem. A nuisance, yes. Last night I watched the first half of Seven Samurai, then took a short walk, then watched the second half. I can definitely recommend the final battle in the rain with a slight buzz. The rain provides great texture to the action—just genius. I apologize if I wrote the exact same thing last night.

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Mattand  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:12:27pm

re: #139 Teukka

Whistles innocently as he drops off a pic:

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That was much needed. Thanks.

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Citizen K  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:12:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:13:50pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:13:59pm

re: #222 goddamnedfrank

I have questions, because I imagine it takes some actual work to fuck up social distancing at a wind power facility.

Maybe didn’t adjust for increased distance if you were standing downwind?

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Teukka  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:14:16pm

re: #233 Mattand

That was much needed. Thanks.

You’re welcome.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:15:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:17:26pm
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Decatur Deb  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:18:07pm

Our town’s two hospitals provide care to about 6 SW Georgia counties. Stupidity crosses rivers.

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:20:24pm

re: #126 Ace Rothstein

I’ve been thinking all day about my future in the photojournalism business, particularly in sports that’s the biggest chunk of that income. I think that even if the NFL starts on time, I’d be surprised if still photographers will be allowed. Same with all other major sports until there’s a vaccine, which would be next MLB opening day at the earliest. That’s a full year, and that may be an optimistic projection. I’ve already settled that I will not be shooting any baseball or basketball for the rest of 2020.

For 10 years I was paid to attend NFL games, with a full stadium pass, and as part of my duties, expected to stand on the sidelines during the game.

So I got to know some of the photographers.

The NFL is so publicity oriented that at this stadium game photographers were given their own stadium tunnel room with internet link so after the game, photos could be immediately uploaded to the publication which hired them.

I would think that when the games resume, photographers will be included with the few people the NFL allow back on the sidelines.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:23:04pm

MORE OF THIS, PLEASE!!!

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William Lewis  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:23:23pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:23:25pm

Note to self: Stay the fuck out of Georgia. Permanently, if possible.

I knew one of the deep red states would be the Guinea pig for this crap.

Watch Trump be 100% behind it until shit starts to blow up in their faces.

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:24:24pm

re: #200 Omar Comin’ Yo

No shirt no shoes no service.
You as a business owner can make your own dress code.
Shirts must have collar.
No jeans.
No hats.
No sports team jackets ( gangs)

No colors (biker bars)

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Citizen K  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:25:22pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:26:35pm

re: #246 Citizen K

I am not surprised.

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gocart mozart  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:27:44pm

Some deep cuts from the archives. The “Kitty’s Back” jazz jam and a song off the new album called “Jungleland”. Check out Little Steven’s pimp outfit

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:28:32pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:29:23pm

re: #227 goddamnedfrank

I just realized, they probably drove whole ass work teams out to job sites in large vans ‘n shit.

It was a factory that made wind turbine blades.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:30:32pm

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Dread Pirate  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:30:54pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:30:55pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

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said it before
keep saying it

anyone can spread it
anyone can get it
anyone can survive it (what they’re all counting on) *see below
anyone can die from it

*NO ONE knows what permanent damage it might do to your heart or lungs

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:31:15pm

re: #240 Decatur Deb

Our town’s two hospitals provide care to about 6 SW Georgia counties. Stupidity crosses rivers.

My grandfather (and my mother, of course) lived a county away from Alabama (it’s the county where FDR went for polio treatment at Warm Springs) and was fond of driving over to eat catfish and hush puppies at a little diner every couple of weeks. A man of endless curiosity, he was fond of saying “I’ll go anywhere in the world as long as I can sleep in my own bed at night.”

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Citizen K  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:31:57pm

And another domino falls.

I can’t even think of anything pithy to say. This is just…

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Mike Lamb  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:32:28pm

re: #244 Eclectic Cyborg

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Note to self: Stay the fuck out of Georgia. Permanently, if possible.

I knew one of the deep red states would be the Guinea pig for this crap.

Watch Trump be 100% behind it until shit starts to blow up in their faces.

My half sister, brother in law, niece, her husband, and two kids 3 and under are in ATL running out the clock while my niece finished physical therapy school. They are moving back to the Bay Area basically this weekend. Originally, they were going to move in mid-May. Needless to say, they are happy that they moved up their timeline.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:33:08pm

It’s a helluva thing when the second wave starts before the first wave even starts to crest.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:34:38pm

re: #255 Citizen K

And another domino falls.

I can’t even think of anything pithy to say. This is just…

Lee’s was never fully upright to begin with.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:35:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:35:45pm
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Decatur Deb  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:36:40pm

re: #255 Citizen K

And another domino falls.

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I can’t even think of anything pithy to say. This is just…

This is the spirit of Rolling Coal, just with more immediate mass suicide.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:36:58pm

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

MORE OF THIS, PLEASE!!!

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he never thought he’d have to, you know, work.
and he still isnt

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:37:08pm

To no one’s surprise, Trump’s buddy in Brazil is going full on in calling for the rise of a dictatorship:

Brazil’s Bolsonaro Joins Supporters In Protest Against Coronavirus Measures

Brazil’s far-right President Jair Bolsonaro is the focus of a fresh outcry after taking part in a public protest against democratic institutions that included calls for a military takeover.

The president’s participation in the event has caused outrage among judges, human rights groups, lawyers and others, and comes amid growing controversy over his response to the coronavirus crisis.

[…]

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EPR-radar  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:37:58pm

re: #257 Barefoot Grin

It’s a helluva thing when the second wave starts before the first wave even starts to crest.

Sadly, this was pretty much inevitable. Republicans are incapable of governing, with very few exceptions.

So every red state whose governor follows Trump’s idiocy will get a devastating second wave right on top of the first one.

Sensibly run states are going to have to close their borders etc. vs. these red-state hellholes.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:38:29pm

I have not had a manicure in six weeks and I started biting my nails again, something that I haven’t done since high school. So yeah I would LIKE to get my nails done thank you very much BUT I’ll do that at home (if I can even find a bottle of nail polish) and not risk the life of an innocent nail tech.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:39:04pm

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is there any other R governor that has come close to DeWine’s performance?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:39:50pm

Evening Lizardim from the warm and rainy wild north country. New numbers: 1134 new tested, up to 46850; 114 new positives, up to 2470; 9 new dead, up to 143. Minnesota governor Tim Walz said he talked with the Chaos Goblin over the weekend; he said they are “aligned” on getting test equipment and PPE to our fair state. He indicated that Trump offered very little in the way of reply when pressed on his “Liberate Minnesota” tweet last week, which is not surprising. Ecolab CEO Doug Baker joined the governor at today’s status update, representing the private-sector health industry in which we excel, stating that we will use all of our public and private options to get enough test equipment to start reopening the state - but that we will not do so until we get it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:39:58pm
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Citizen K  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:40:16pm

That seems to be just the problem, isn’t it? It doesn’t matter what the polls say, how many of us are willing to go along with what is necessary to combat this. All it takes is the right number of people in the right number of places to undermine it and send it all to shit because they’re afforded all the leverage and power.

And we’re all basically at the mercy of the whims of toadie state-level GOP leaders and handfuls of astroturf protestors that the press has universally decided really represents America and all the rest of us should just get fucked.

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sagehen  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:40:41pm

re: #266 Mike Lamb

Is there any other R governor that has come close to DeWine’s performance?

Hogan (Maryland) and Baker (Massachusetts).

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:41:23pm

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Decatur Deb  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:41:41pm

re: #264 EPR-radar

Sadly, this was pretty much inevitable. Republicans are incapable of governing, with very few exceptions.

So every red state whose governor follows Trump’s idiocy will get a devastating second wave right on top of the first one.

Sensibly run states are going to have to close their borders etc. vs. these red-state hellholes.

So I have to tunnel to the nearest Blue state. That’s 658 miles. (Starts tunneling.)

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:42:07pm

re: #255 Citizen K

And another domino falls.

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I can’t even think of anything pithy to say. This is just…

lets continue to be clear

this is NOT D governors vs R governors

it’s those relying on science and math vs those ignoring science and math

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:42:20pm

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

Acting like an actual freakin’ governor of all of his constituents.

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Citizen K  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:43:22pm

re: #264 EPR-radar

Sadly, this was pretty much inevitable. Republicans are incapable of governing, with very few exceptions.

So every red state whose governor follows Trump’s idiocy will get a devastating second wave right on top of the first one.

Sensibly run states are going to have to close their borders etc. vs. these red-state hellholes.

As soon as a couple of blue states do that, expect the Supremes to drop a 5-4 decision tearing the power to do so away from them. We all have to suffer together for the GOP sins after all, same as always.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:44:52pm

re: #275 Citizen K

As soon as a couple of blue states do that, expect the Supremes to drop a 5-4 decision tearing the power to do so away from them. We all have to suffer together for the GOP sins after all, same as always.

Not going to matter. My town isn’t going to open up anytime soon, and I guarantee you Abbott will hear from people if he tries anything.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:45:11pm

re: #275 Citizen K

As soon as a couple of blue states do that, expect the Supremes to drop a 5-4 decision tearing the power to do so away from them. We all have to suffer together for the GOP sins after all, same as always.

Would be karmic retribution if the 5 Republican stamps on the court get the virus…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:45:54pm

re: #273 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

lets continue to be clear

this is NOT D governors vs R governors

it’s those relying on science and math vs those ignoring science and math

I notice that the worst governors have been the ones that owe their gubernatorial job to the Trump influence on the right. Baker, Hogan, & DeWine aren’t Trump influenced. DeSanittis, Ivey, Reynolds, & Kemp OTOH.

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Teukka  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:46:56pm

re: #253 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

said it before
keep saying it

anyone can spread it
anyone can get it
anyone can survive it (what they’re all counting on) *see below
anyone can die from it

*NO ONE knows what permanent damage it might do to your heart or lungs

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I don’t envy your position at all. I’m gonna throw some numbers at y’all.. The R0 of SARS-CoV-2 is unknown, but believed to be somewhere between 1.3 and 4.7. So let’s make it simple, let’s say just one person at a reopen{insert state here} has it and is contagious:
Generation 1 (R0): 1.3 to 4.7 gets infected.
Generation 2 (R02): 1.7 to 22.1 gets infected by generation 1.
Generation 3 (R03): 2.2 to 103.9 gets infected by generation 2.
Generation 4 (R04): 2.9 to 488 gets infected by generation 3.
Generation 5 (R05): 3.7 to 2293.5 (SIC(!)) gets infected by generation four.
And so on, and so on, and so on, until a good vaccine or herd immunity emerges.
And the above figure is just the damage one damn person infected and contagious with SARS-CoV-2 can do. For a crowd of 10,000 infected covidiots? Numbers times 10,000.
For more generations than the 5 I presented?
R0g * n
Where g is generation number and n is initial infected population size.

I hate to say this, but the trigger of the gun has been pulled, the gunpowder in the cartridge has exploded, and the shot has left the shotgun…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:47:33pm

No campaign rally briefing today?

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Teukka  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:48:22pm

re: #280 Eclectic Cyborg

No campaign rally briefing today?

Shh! Don’t jinx it!

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:49:03pm

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Citizen K  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:49:15pm

re: #280 Eclectic Cyborg

No campaign rally briefing today?

If only.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:53:11pm

All the red states are now openly killing their citizens. I live in Texas, and now I know for a fact that I won’t be shooting any sports until Fall 2021. As a matter of fact, I’m just going to throw all my shit online and sell it all.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:53:12pm

re: #264 EPR-radar

Sadly, this was pretty much inevitable. Republicans are incapable of governing, with very few exceptions.

So every red state whose governor follows Trump’s idiocy will get a devastating second wave right on top of the first one.

Sensibly run states are going to have to close their borders etc. vs. these red-state hellholes.

you know maybe it’s not so much a rejection of science

maybe it’s simpler, and baser - pure political contrarianism (as always)

the R governors take their cues from trump
and trump just had to do the opposite of whatever the D governors were doing - Whatever it was

just coincidence that the D’s position is the medically sound one

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Citizen K  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:55:30pm

re: #285 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

you know maybe it’s not so much a rejection of science

maybe it’s simpler, and baser - pure political contrarianism (as always)

the R governors take their cues from trump
and trump just had to do the opposite of whatever the D governors were doing - Whatever it was

just coincidence that the D’s position is the medically sound one

It all comes back to cleek’s law: “Today’s conservatism is the opposite of what liberals want today, updated daily.”

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Decatur Deb  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:55:34pm

re: #284 Ace Rothstein

All the red states are now openly killing their citizens. I live in Texas, and now I know for a fact that I won’t be shooting any sports until Fall 2021. As a matter of fact, I’m just going to throw all my shit online and sell it all.

It’s better to be an unemployed photographer than an unemployed chicken-sexer.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:55:49pm

re: #265 The Pie Overlord!

I have not had a manicure in six weeks and I started biting my nails again, something that I haven’t done since high school. So yeah I would LIKE to get my nails done thank you very much BUT I’ll do that at home (if I can even find a bottle of nail polish) and not risk the life of an innocent nail tech.

virtually every decision we make in the near future will be a risk analysis

is X worth the risk of getting infected? (forget spreading it)

discretion, options, desires. nope. not for me.

food and some necessities
the rest i can do without - certainly for a good long while.
or adapt.

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gocart mozart  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:56:54pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:57:59pm

re: #248 gocart mozart

Some deep cuts from the archives. The “Kitty’s Back” jazz jam and a song off the new album called “Jungleland”. Check out Little Steven’s pimp outfit

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kitty’s back is longer than jungleland!

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 2:59:44pm

re: #278 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I notice that the worst governors have been the ones that owe their gubernatorial job to the Trump influence on the right. Baker, Hogan, & DeWine aren’t Trump influenced. DeSanittis, Ivey, Reynolds, & Kemp OTOH.

see my below, that’s now above re their motivation may just be contrarianism

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jaunte  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:00:19pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:02:55pm

re: #290 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

kitty’s back is longer than jungleland!

and i always wished i could play like clarence

though i also wished i could play guitar like clapton, so…

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gocart mozart  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:03:34pm

re: #290 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Kitty’s Back is originally pretty long (7 minutes on the album) and is perfect for live long jams

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BigPapa  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:04:39pm

re: #226 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The Stanford Dr’s have the Hoover Stank all over them. Until I see other science support their studies I have no trust in it.

If there was ever a time to consistent and objective, it’s right now.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:04:40pm

re: #294 gocart mozart

Kitty’s Back is originally pretty long (7 minutes on the album) and is perfect for live long jams

oh yeah

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:05:11pm

For fuck’s sake.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:06:11pm

re: #295 BigPapa

Proving that we can be properly, respectably, and respectFULLy critical of theories or conclusions that seem to agree with our pre-existing positions goes a long way to show others that we are driven by reason.

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Teukka  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:07:05pm

Sorry, couldn’t stop myself:

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:07:07pm

re: #295 BigPapa

The Stanford Dr’s have the Hoover Stank all over them. Until I see other science support their studies I have no trust in it.

If there was ever a time to consistent and objective, it’s right now.

Hoover Stank was a one-hit wonder.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:07:11pm

STOP COVERING THIS BULLSHIT. THERE IS NO VALUE WHATSOEVER TO THE PUBLIC GOOD COMING OUT FROM THE PRESIDENT.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:07:30pm

INTERESTING, BIGLY!

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jaunte  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:07:32pm

“…After Nabisco sent some factory jobs from the US to Mexico in 2016, Trump responded by saying he would no longer eat Oreos, a Nabisco product. His own products, according to a 2016 Washington Post investigation, are made in 12 foreign countries: China, Mexico, India, Turkey, Slovenia, Honduras, Germany, Bangladesh, Indonesia, the Netherlands, Vietnam, and South Korea.”
qz.com

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Citizen K  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:08:06pm

Don’t look now, but Trump’s trying to blame Chinese travelers explicitly for Italy’s outbreak while casting himself as the stalwart defender saving us from diseased Chinese hordes.

Stupid is as xenophobia does.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:08:53pm

re: #288 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

virtually every decision we make in the near future since March 7th will be a risk analysis

Already being done. I’m in until my state says it’s OK. (I’m guessing June, dunno if June 2020 or 2021, one of them will be correct!)

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BigPapa  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:09:42pm

re: #300 Barefoot Grin

Hoover Stank was a one-hit wonder.

Was hoping somebody caught that little nugget.

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:10:01pm

Crimes against Humanity.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:10:18pm

hey boys and girls, everyone’s not an idiot

A new Yahoo News/YouGov Poll finds that 71% of Americans are more worried about lifting the restrictions too quickly,while 29% are worried it will happen too slowly.

“A majority of Democrats (87%) and about half of Republicans (51%) agree that the country should only reopen once public-health officials are fully able to test and trace new cases and outbreaks—and most Americans (52%) recognize that the country is not currently conducting enough COVID-19 testing to track future outbreaks of the virus.”

screw it. i just went back and bolded the whole goddamned thing

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:10:28pm

re: #307 DodgerFan1988

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Crimes against Humanity.

Trump keeps claiming that we’re at war with the coronavirus. Okay, then, war crimes it is.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:10:50pm

re: #305 Sherlock Hound

Already being done. I’m in until my state says it’s OK. (I’m guessing June, dunno if June 2020 or 2021, one of them will be correct!)

We’re down until well after our state says it’s OK. We live in one of those states.

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BigPapa  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:12:19pm

re: #309 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Trump keeps claiming that we’re at war with the coronavirus. Okay, then, war crimes it is.

If it’s a war, his guilt moves from sedition to treason.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:13:12pm

re: #311 BigPapa

If it’s a war, his guilt moves from sedition to treason.

I approve this message.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:13:26pm

re: #302 teleskiguy

INTERESTING, BIGLY!

“I have no clue what you’re talking about.”

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jaunte  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:13:49pm

It’s not fucking about you, you self-obsessed piece of shit.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:14:35pm

three new cases in my zip code since 4/16

total: 23

the ‘town’ says about 100 total

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:16:09pm

re: #314 jaunte

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It’s not fucking about you, you self-obsessed piece of shit.

first they were all talking about airplanes and the air force
then they switched to the army and boots on the ground
now it’s the boats

dont worry. i know all about all this stuff

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Decatur Deb  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:16:34pm
When We All Vote

is holding its second Voting Rights “couch party” tonight. Michelle O, Tom Hanks, and others are sitting in.

To join:
mobilize.us

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:19:49pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:20:23pm

Kind of getting lost in the details is how the global push toward right-wind extremism has made this pandemic worse, and yet probably will more firmly entrench right-wing extremism across the world (though I do wonder what private conversations are going on in central Asia and Africa about China’s “one-belt on-road” initiative).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:21:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:22:30pm

because, you know, the virus can’t cross state lines…

O_o

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:22:51pm

re: #309 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Trump keeps claiming that we’re at war with the coronavirus. Okay, then, war crimes it is.

But Trump likes guys who commit war crimes…

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:23:24pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:23:35pm

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

because, you know, the virus can’t cross state lines…

O_o

If the virus can’t cross state lines, neither can illegals, who are much larger than viruses. Therefore, we don’t need no stinkin’ wall.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:23:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:24:49pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:25:23pm

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That is an incredibly powerful image.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:25:45pm

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

OMG Does he really believe that stuff? ::: shakes head in disgust :::

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:28:18pm
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makeitstop  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:30:14pm

What could possibly go wrong? /

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:30:59pm
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Citizen K  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:32:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:33:00pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:33:25pm

“Well, fuck.” - Every ER Doctor and Nurse in Georgia right now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:34:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:35:48pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:35:52pm

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

Can SCOTUS strike this down, too?

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:36:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:36:36pm

re: #337 Eclectic Cyborg

Can SCOTUS strike this down, too?

no idea

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:37:59pm

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

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gocart mozart  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:39:49pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:39:52pm
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BeachDem  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:42:10pm

re: #246 Citizen K

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And this describes my memories of Olympia perfectly.

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EPR-radar  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:43:08pm

The US is the richest country on the planet. There’s easily enough money to keep everyone going (functionally, not at 100%) through a 1-2 month nationwide shutdown.

But that money would have to come from US plutocrats (a small fraction of their hoarded wealth).

To prevent this from happening, Republicans will gladly kill us all. No deviation from the dogma of terminal capitalism can be permitted.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:44:45pm

Wholesale bulk 87 oct gas today: $0.71/gal. 😳

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:45:22pm

Misinformation has a cost. It can be measured.

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Cheechako  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:47:51pm

re: #345 Dave In Austin

Wholesale bulk 87 oct gas today: $0.71/gal. 😳

Looks like the only place left to store gas is in everyone’s gas tanks. And then every place is closed so there’s no to reason to drive.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:47:58pm

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

We already have technicals.

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retired cynic  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:49:13pm

...

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retired cynic  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:49:56pm

re: #349 retired cynic

Well THAT didn’t work!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:50:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:50:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:52:03pm
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John Hughes  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:52:54pm

re: #8 Dr Lizardo

As I type this…..$0.01/bbl.

I’d buy that for a dollar!

(Actually I wouldn’t).

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sagehen  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:52:58pm

re: #337 Eclectic Cyborg

Can SCOTUS strike this down, too?

don’t think so; the issue in Wisconsin was that the governor and the legislature didn’t agree.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:53:29pm

I’m not crying you’re crying.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:55:44pm
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jaunte  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:55:52pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:56:16pm
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John Hughes  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:58:20pm

re: #15 The Pie Overlord!

One thing I could never figure out about the Mad Max movies, who was drilling, extracting and refining all the oil and gasoline that they needed for all their custom vehicles? Because THEY woulda own Bartertown.

Uh, in the case of bartertown it was methane from pigshit, under the control of Mater Blaster.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:58:29pm

Daniel should get hazard pay for this.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:59:38pm

re: #361 Eclectic Cyborg

Daniel should get hazard pay for this.

Daniel kinda got broken a few days ago. He seems better now.

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EPR-radar  Apr 20, 2020 • 3:59:43pm

re: #358 jaunte

Since everything Trump says is a lie, that means he did get money from the SBA stimulus.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:00:55pm
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John Hughes  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:01:45pm

re: #25 TarHellion

Now trading at negative-8 bucks. Does that mean stores will pay you to take their gas?

This is oil, not gas. Does your car run on crude? (It can be done), or do you want to refine it yourself? (Some guys in Syria and Nigeria can tell you how to do it).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:02:10pm
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Teddy's Person  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:03:39pm

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jaunte  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:04:01pm

He’s a failure and he knows it.

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:04:30pm

Of course, Conservatives are going with the “black people kills more than the Coronavirus” argument. But they’re not racist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:04:58pm
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jaunte  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:06:25pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:06:39pm

re: #367 Teddy’s Person

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Wear a mask and gloves, General. You don’t want any of that shit on you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:07:18pm
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John Hughes  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:08:09pm

re: #46 Targetpractice

They’re probably getting bombarded with people checking to see if oil prices cratering means gas prices are doing the same.

Hint: They’re not going to. The price of the raw material may have fallen, but there are still refining, storage an delivery costs.

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John Hughes  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:09:41pm

re: #52 GlutenFreeJesus

Should have used a dremel.

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John Hughes  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:10:34pm

re: #55 Jay C

I thought something like that: but “Guru Meditation”??

Are all gasbuddy’s IT people off in the yoga studio or what??

It’a a joke by ex Amiga users.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:12:18pm

re: #309 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Trump keeps claiming that we’re at war with the coronavirus. Okay, then, war crimes it is.

Treason. Aiding the enemy

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:12:33pm

JFC

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jaunte  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:13:30pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:13:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:15:04pm
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EPR-radar  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:15:45pm

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

US Republicans are proving that right wing political violence can be run as a stochastic terrorism operation.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:15:54pm

OFFS

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:16:53pm
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Eventual Carrion  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:17:06pm

re: #318 teleskiguy

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“Smithfield Foods, Inc., is a meat-processing company based in Smithfield, Virginia, in the United States, and a wholly owned subsidiary of WH Group of China.”

Q where are you? The Chinese are in our back yard spreading the disease.

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John Hughes  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:25:39pm

re: #183 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Maybe. But the US government is already drowning in debt. ?

Nonsense. The US can have as much “debt” as it wants.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:26:33pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:29:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:29:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:30:23pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:32:00pm

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

It is supposed to be clear on Wednesday. Maybe I will get to see it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:34:32pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:35:39pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:35:59pm

re: #392 Backwoods_Sleuth

Say awwwww

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:36:01pm

re: #358 jaunte

Translation: “I got my fat fingers in all of it and there’s not a god damn thing you can do to stop me from getting more.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:38:18pm
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Ace Rothstein  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:38:22pm

re: #381 Backwoods_Sleuth

5.4% lethality rate. American exceptionalism.

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austin_blue  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:38:32pm

re: #304 Citizen K

Don’t look now, but Trump’s trying to blame Chinese travelers explicitly for Italy’s outbreak while casting himself as the stalwart defender saving us from diseased Chinese hordes.

Stupid is as xenophobia does.

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He’s probably right, but his timeframe is fucked up. Italy banned direct flights from Gynah three days before the US did.

Unfortunately, three to five weeks before that, a shitpot of Chinese seamstresses were flown into Milan to help prep the Haute Couture fashion houses for clothes that would be displayed at the spring season shows, as they do every year.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:39:24pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:40:11pm

re: #244 Eclectic Cyborg

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Note to self: Stay the fuck out of Georgia. Permanently, if possible.

I knew one of the deep red states would be the Guinea pig for this crap.

Watch Trump be 100% behind it until shit starts to blow up in their faces.

WTF is a body arch studio?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:41:16pm

re: #389 Backwoods_Sleuth

The IHME model currently predicts a US death total of 60.3k.

That is probably from where Trump is getting that number.

But three things:
1) the IHME model has a large error range, two sigma all the way up to 140k.
2) the model assumes the shelter in place restrictions stay in place for many more weeks.
3) the model is only for the first wave. An expected second wave will happen after restrictions are lifted. The 60k is only for the first wave.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:44:35pm

re: #401 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Does the model take into account that Trump is President?

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:45:58pm

re: #401 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The IHME model currently predicts a US death total of 60.3k.

That is probably from where Trump is getting that number.

But three things:
1) the IHME model has a large error range, two sigma all the way up to 140k.
2) the model assumes the shelter in place restrictions stay in place for many more weeks.
3) the model is only for the first wave. An expected second wave will happen after restrictions are lifted. The 60k is only for the first wave.

4? Does not yet reflect the probable increase in people thought to have been infected.

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austin_blue  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:46:30pm

re: #356 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m not crying you’re crying.

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Yup, that’s me crying.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:47:14pm

Grocery store report:

The water (plain and sugar) is stocked pretty well.

The in-store bakery is keeping up with demand (at least by mid day).

The frozen dinner aisle is about 60% stocked. What I have noticed is that the significant deals are gone, most of the aisle is list price or only small promotional reductions.

Dairy is keeping up pretty well but there are empty spots on the aisle.

The paper isle is as barren as Mare Serenitatis

Customers and employees seem to be doing pretty well with keeping the social distancing. There is still a sense of being hurried, an uncomfortable feeling. This “new norm” is going to take a while to settle in.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:48:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:49:17pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:50:56pm

re: #376 John Hughes

It’a a joke by ex Amiga users.

Best system failure message ever.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:51:10pm

re: #403 Rightwingconspirator

4? Does not yet reflect the probable increase in people thought to have been infected.

Yes, but the IHME model is about hospital capacity use. So they tune the model based on hospital data.

So the percentage of asymptomatic and not-tested-but-infected will probably not change that much in another wave. Meaning, if right now only 10% of the infections are detected, then that incurs a known hospital use.

Until there is enough “herd immunity” where the testing for the virus is negative but the antibody test is not given, projections like this ought to hold.

What is needed are the results if antibody tests, such as those underway.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:52:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:55:39pm
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BeachDem  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:58:10pm

Heh.

End the Lockdown Rally? No one shows up — except NYPD.

silive.com

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sagehen  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:58:14pm

re: #400 goddamnedfrank

WTF is a body arch studio?

I think it’s the auto-correct version of a body art studio (tattoos and piercings).

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:58:21pm

re: #409 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Yes, but the IHME model is about hospital capacity use. So they tune the model based on hospital data.

So the percentage of asymptomatic and not-tested-but-infected will probably not change that much in another wave. Meaning, if right now only 10% of the infections are detected, then that incurs a known hospital use.

Until there is enough “herd immunity” where the testing for the virus is negative but the antibody test is not given, projections like this ought to hold.

What is needed are the results if antibody tests, such as those underway.

Right. The number of non or very minor symptomatic people explodes upward, little impact on hospital use. And at this far below hospital capacity in California, you can be far less sick and get in as compared to maxxed out. So we have more people that are less sick in. Hopefully a minor, noise level variable.

I have a peeve. When NYC added deaths that had occurred over weeks, they added them to one day. I think Los Angeles just did something similar with our case count. 1500 in a day? I smell a test result backlog drop.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 20, 2020 • 4:59:04pm

re: #375 John Hughes

Should have used a dremel.

That would be a huge fail. Trust me. He lets me trim… he just has a lot to say about it. lol

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:00:41pm
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sagehen  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:02:26pm

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

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and as soon as he’s done, does the Disinfectant Squad go to work on the podium and microphone?

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William Lewis  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:02:31pm

re: #376 John Hughes

It’a a joke by ex Amiga users.

God, my A500 was a wonderful machine in its day. Multitasking multimedia on a 68K processor with 1.5 mb of RAM could run rings around any PC or Apple. Only the Atari came close if you were doing music. The guru meditation numbers were put in during development of the A1000 to aid in debugging but it was kept in the shipping system.

Commodore. The Trump of computers - everything great it touched eventually was destroyed by their incompetence.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:03:35pm

re: #414 Rightwingconspirator

The large data dumps in one day is something I expect. China did the same things.

Remember, daily reports of deaths are the deaths being reported on that day, that the deaths that occurred on that day.

Many times the tabulation of statistics is time consuming.

Post pandemic, I expect epidemiologist dissertations to dissect what the actual infected and the actual deaths are, in the US and around the world.

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cat-tikvah  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:03:46pm

Harrisburg PA today - counter protest by health care workers
“Armed with nothing but signs and science, half a dozen medical workers from across the state showed up near the capitol in Harrisburg on Monday to counter the message of hundreds of “ReOpen PA” protesters calling for an end to coronavirus restrictions.”

whyy.org

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stpaulbear  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:04:08pm

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

ABC News

@ABC
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell removes a face mask to address reporters on Capitol Hill amid the coronavirus pandemic.

Maybe he’ll get sick out of ignorance.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:05:45pm

re: #418 William Lewis

I had an A1000 and later bought an A2000, and tried a bit of software development on it (porting from another system’s BASIC program.)

Fascinating machines, way ahead of their time as far as graphics capability.

Yet as you noted, Commodore (which eventually was a Bahamian company with dubious folk on the board) was unable to do right by what it had.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:05:51pm

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

Reporter needs to get close with a doorknob as a microphone….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:07:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:08:33pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:09:35pm

re: #418 William Lewis

Commodore. The Trump of computers - everything great it touched eventually was destroyed by their incompetence.

Made me sad when my A3000 w/68060 daughter board and video card that had 8 megs of RAM whirred its I a t whirr.

The stock machine was awesome, too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:17:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:18:33pm
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Eventual Carrion  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:19:18pm

re: #411 Backwoods_Sleuth

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No McNinny. To me he is “that fucking shit stain, orange, treasonous, criminal fuck wad waste of skin, oxygen and valuable resources”. The term “tRump” just covers all that more succinctly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:19:53pm
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unproven innocence  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:20:22pm

re: #206 Mike Lamb

Set a new date for the “peak” in Georgia…

Mid-May.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:21:14pm

At the grocery store, there was reasonable stock of most things (no hand sanitizer that I could see), just one brand Of TP and one of paper towels, and not many packages of each.

And the TP was ON SALE.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:22:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:23:40pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:23:41pm

Mayor Garcetti says we have tested 100,000 people and still ramping up. Wow.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:24:18pm

420.

Be sure to embiggen for the full cartoon.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:24:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:24:39pm
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William Lewis  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:24:56pm

re: #426 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Made me sad when my A3000 w/68060 daughter board and video card that had 8 megs of RAM whirred its I a t whirr.

The stock machine was awesome, too.

Oh, that would have been a sweet machine.

I always lusted after the A4000/040 with a copy of the Amiga Unix - it was a decent System V R4 port and I had fantasies of getting the Video Toaster running under Unix. That would have been way out of my league, I know now, but it was an entertaining dream at the time.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:25:31pm

re: #411 Backwoods_Sleuth

VP Pence earlier today on call w/ govs responding to Hogan concerns about lack of access to federal & DoD run labs. “I think Larry, just to be real clear you give us a call, and as the needs evolve we’ll move heaven and earth to open up access to everything that’s on this list.”

Mrs. Lapin works in one of those private-owned federal-contacting labs located on DoD property (Ft. Detrick) and her comment to that is just to burst into hysterics. Her lab is trying to get up and running on SARS-COV-2; they mainly do HIV, Hep C as their bread and butter, but worked on Zika and Ebola during those events. They own all the super super Abbott robots that are needed for genotyping, isolating, etc. RNA viruses and they are still trying to get it to work. Pence is full of shit.

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A Mom Anon  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:28:00pm

Welp, I’m in Georgia and this shit is just damned stupid. None of these places have to be open. I’m so tired of spoiled stupid brats breaking everything.

My husband is medically fragile, if he catches this shit he won’t survive it, short of a miracle. I’m pissed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:30:21pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:33:56pm

How do you know you dug too deep?
You see this.

“In the ensuing years, basic virology studies established that SARS-Cov depends on endosomal escape, that it buds from the Golgi apparatus, and that its receptor (ACE2) is itself glycosylated in the Golgi.”

Okay I’m done for today. Head just hurts.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:34:20pm

Key lime pie
Chantilly cream

There’s pie!

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:34:32pm

I’m so old, I remember when Trump and every right-winger alive was pushing hydroxychloroquine.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:35:09pm
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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:35:35pm

Another way to store excess wind power:

Spongebob - Bag of Wind

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:36:10pm

Why isn’t the federal government doing more to help states get more tests? Simple. Trump knows that more tests will mean more and more people test positive and then the death count will skyrocket.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:36:49pm

re: #443 Rightwingconspirator

How do you know you dug too deep?
You see this.

“In the ensuing years, basic virology studies established that SARS-Cov depends on endosomal escape, that it buds from the Golgi apparatus, and that its receptor (ACE2) is itself glycosylated in the Golgi.”

Okay I’m done for today. Head just hurts.

It comes from the cells pooper

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:37:13pm

re: #448 Ace Rothstein

He is playing a numbers game with people’s lives.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:37:19pm

re: #431 unproven innocence

Mid-May.

The IHME has huge uncertainty bars for accumulated deaths in Georgia. Partly, I suppose, because Georgia has to date only partially implemented a shut-down.

With even those minimal stay-in-place orders weakening, there will be increases in a few weeks. But it may take a month before there is another surge, and deaths track behind infections by about two or three weeks.

What this means is that whatever bad effects of Kemp letting up on stay-in-place orders may be, these effects will not be immediate.

And what that means, in the minimal-thinking capacity right wing to which Kemp is playing, is that the cause and effect will be ignored.

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:37:42pm

re: #443 Rightwingconspirator

How do you know you dug too deep?
You see this.

“In the ensuing years, basic virology studies established that SARS-Cov depends on endosomal escape, that it buds from the Golgi apparatus, and that its receptor (ACE2) is itself glycosylated in the Golgi.”

Okay I’m done for today. Head just hurts.

I remember that song by Phish!

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gocart mozart  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:38:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:38:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:41:02pm
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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:45:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:46:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:48:57pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:49:22pm

re: #449 Eventual Carrion

Right before that I saw an article about a Pentagon study. If true, getting the flu shot made you more susceptible to COVID-19 via viral interference. Reading through tomorrow.
sciencedirect.com

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:51:52pm

re: #458 Backwoods_Sleuth

Real mens.

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Citizen K  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:53:09pm

Some palate cleanser for a shitty day.

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Interesting Times  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:53:57pm

re: #428 Backwoods_Sleuth

This brings up something that in hindsight, seems blindingly obvious: Putin must also be bankrolling/amplifying this durr hurr lockdowns are tyranny!!11! astroturf movement in order to save his own economy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:55:14pm

...

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:56:01pm

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Charles Johnson  Apr 20, 2020 • 5:59:46pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:04:25pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:04:26pm

re: #369 DodgerFan1988

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Of course, Conservatives are going with the “black people kills more than the Coronavirus” argument. But they’re not racist.

As the numbers keep going up they’ll keep switching to the next X kills more than Corona…

Like they’ve been doing all along

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:05:37pm
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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:05:42pm

2020 so far in one scene.

I did it ma! Top of the World!

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:06:18pm

re: #456 Omar Comin’ Yo

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Oh yeah, the stories I could tell.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:09:15pm

re: #466 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

When a futures contract goes negative, that is a means of keeping people from selling said contracts, as they’d have to pay people to take them.

It does not mean, though, that the price of the commodity will be negative at that date.

If you are holding a contract that has a contract price that is negative, or zero, why would you sell it?

Because if one held the contract to maturity one will lose even more money at that time than selling it now for nothing.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:09:42pm

The petroleum markets finally priced the reality that the pandemic is not going to be over by May.

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sagehen  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:11:45pm

re: #459 Rightwingconspirator

Right before that I saw an article about a Pentagon study. If true, getting the flu shot made you more susceptible to COVID-19 via viral interference. Reading through tomorrow.
sciencedirect.com

I certainly hope not; I had my flu shot in December.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:11:55pm

re: #456 Omar Comin’ Yo

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:12:07pm

Also, what the historic negative price indicates is that petroleum prices have been propped up for some time by sheer speculation.

Of course petroleum products will be consumed in May. But traders (and probably Putin and Mr. BoneSaw) have tried for some time to keep prices higher than the real demand will allow.

It finally became evident to the world of investors that the real demand is not going to be no where near as high next month that the oil-hawkers kept pretending.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:13:22pm

re: #474 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Possum is textbook “Stupefied.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:17:25pm

re: #473 sagehen

I certainly hope not; I had my flu shot in December.

I had mine a couple months before that. Very bad news.

And I’m not feeling well. Two days now. No COVID19 symptoms, I don’t think. Massive headache and the runs. Lovely.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:17:48pm

re: #458 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And they would still take care of you

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:18:02pm

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:18:11pm

re: #476 Omar Comin’ Yo

Possum is textbook “Stupefied.”

My Harry or Hermione?

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jaunte  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:18:51pm

re: #479 Joe Bacon 🌹

Car seats iz tyranny.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:22:48pm

If only this worked and we could go back in time to keep Trump from being born…

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:26:08pm

re: #429 Eventual Carrion

No McNinny. To me he is “that fucking shit stain, orange, treasonous, criminal fuck wad waste of skin, oxygen and valuable resources”. The term “tRump” just covers all that more succinctly.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:28:44pm

re: #482 Joe Bacon 🌹

Ah yes, Time Tunnel, where the white American male goes back in time and proves that indeed he is the rightful inheritor of all the world has done.

I remember one episode when they went back to some OT story, to see it happen. Classic religion-reifying American TV.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:30:00pm

There will be a holocaust in red states as they reopen due to pressure from Trump and Fox News. Thank God for Governor Beshear.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:30:59pm

re: #482 Joe Bacon 🌹

If only this worked and we could go back in time to keep Trump from being born…

I stumbled onto an episode of Time Tunnel a couple days ago

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:30:59pm

re: #477 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I had mine a couple months before that. Very bad news.

And I’m not feeling well. Two days now. No COVID19 symptoms, I don’t think. Massive headache and the runs. Lovely.

Study is based on 2017-18 flu shots, and is mixed at best on virus interference. I wouldn’t worry about it.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:31:02pm

OH LOOK HERE:

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lawhawk  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:31:07pm

re: #482 Joe Bacon 🌹

Key and Peele had a skit where they went back in time to show what automatic weapons could do - it had the opposite effect. We got even more and bigger guns.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:31:08pm

re: #485 NO SMOCKING GUN!

There will be a holocaust in red states as they reopen due to pressure from Trump and Fox News. Thank God for Governor Beshear.

Have to keep the bridges on the Ohio River available in case Kentucky ends up needing to evacuate north.
//

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wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:33:59pm

re: #486 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I stumbled onto an episode of Time Tunnel a couple days ago

Never know where you might end up, I mean when.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:35:19pm

re: #490 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Have to keep the bridges on the Ohio River available in case Kentucky ends up needing to evacuate north.
//

We won’t have to. The legislative session is over, and they can’t reconvene until next year unless Beshear calls a special session. So he is calling all the shots for the next nine months.

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lawhawk  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:35:25pm

This is… unconfirmed:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:36:30pm

re: #493 lawhawk

This is… unconfirmed:

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Fingers crossed.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:37:03pm

re: #493 lawhawk

Did Trump accidentally infect him with Lindsey Graham?
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makeitstop  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:37:25pm

re: #491 wrenchwench

Never know where you might end up, I mean when.

As far as random time travel shows went, I always liked Quantum Leap. Fun show, often with a good message.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:41:00pm

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sagehen  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:43:58pm

re: #484 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Ah yes, Time Tunnel, where the white American male goes back in time and proves that indeed he is the rightful inheritor of all the world has done.

I remember one episode when they went back to some OT story, to see it happen. Classic religion-reifying American TV.

Louis CK has a routine about how time travel is only for white men, because “OMG, sure, I can go to any time, I’d be fine, but what would happen to a black guy who goes back a couple of hundred years? Or a woman of any ethnicity? No no no no no. Time travel is definitely only for white men.”

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William Lewis  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:44:30pm

Hey, photographers out here, I just put together a page that I hope someone here might find useful:

Three Exercises for Photography in a Time of Quarantine

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:44:32pm

re: #493 lawhawk

This is… unconfirmed:

[Embedded content]

Disinformation spread by the DPRK dead-leader wailers unit of the third inner-circle of the Juche Korean Workers Party. He actually just used his body to save the world.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:48:04pm

re: #498 sagehen

Louis CK has a routine about how time travel is only for white men, because “OMG, sure, I can go to any time, I’d be fine, but what would happen to a black guy who goes back a couple of hundred years? Or a woman of any ethnicity? No no no no no. Time travel is definitely only for white men.”

The short lived series Timeless explored that idea in several episodes.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:48:49pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:50:07pm

Horrifying reports about the pandemic from Rachel tonight.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:52:10pm

re: #503 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Horrifying reports about the pandemic from Rachel tonight.

I’m still waiting for Florida governor to start telling the truth of what is happening in their nursing homes.

Also under-reported: other long term effects of Covid-19 besides death.

505
NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:53:03pm

re: #504 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I’m still waiting for Florida governor to start telling the truth of what is happening in their nursing homes.

Also under-reported: other long term effects of Covid-19 besides death.

I have not heard about long term effects. Do you have a link?

506
Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:54:48pm

re: #484 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There was also “7 Days” ….

507
retired cynic  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:55:25pm

Juanita Jean’s:

Y’all, it’s 4/20. I hope you left out milk and cookies for Willie Nelson last night.

508
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:56:35pm

re: #505 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I have not heard about long term effects. Do you have a link?

Not in only one link. Reports are anecdotal mostly, scattered around the world. But among the lasting effects are reduced lung capacity.

509
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:57:55pm

re: #501 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The short lived series Timeless explored that idea in several episodes.

It gets explored in science fiction novels on and off. The main character in Connie Willis’ _Doomsday Book_ is a female time traveler.

510
NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:58:05pm

re: #508 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Not in only one link. Reports are anecdotal mostly, scattered around the world. But among the lasting effects are reduced lung capacity.

That makes sense. But the economy!///

511
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:58:39pm

re: #506 Eric The Fruit Bat

There was also “7 Days” ….

HQ digital versions of which are still not available. Would have thought Amazon would have tried to get the owners to play ball.

7 Days was one of the few time-travel shows that tried to constrain the nature of time travel in order to keep from paradoxes.

Still, the story was about the all-American white male seducing the sexy Russian female.

512
Hecuba's daughter  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:58:51pm

re: #510 NO SMOCKING GUN!

That makes sense. But the economy!///

Here is one article: jpost.com

513
The Pie Overlord!  Apr 20, 2020 • 6:59:58pm
514
Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:00:17pm
515
i(m)p(each)sos  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:01:35pm

When do the insurance companies start weighing in on businesses in Georgia, SC, and so on who want to reopen before the actuaries think it’s safe?

Or that stupid mall in Nebraska?

(closed-circuit to Anymouse when he wakes up: Rachel Maddow showed a Scottsbluff Star-Herald clipping on her show tonight!)

516
retired cynic  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:03:11pm

The Return of the “Independent” Granfalloon, driftglass

So I’ll end this post the same way I ended my column from 2009:

Most newly minted “independents” seem to be little more than Republicans who are fleeing the scene of their crime, but at the same time still desperately want believe in the inerrant wisdom of Rush Limbaugh. They are completely incapable of facing the horrifying reality that they have gotten every single major political opinion and decision of their adult lives completely wrong, so instead they double-down on their hatred of women and/or gays and/or brown people and/or Liberals, and blame them for the miserable fuckpit their leaders and their policies have made of their lives and futures.

Like German soldiers after the fall of Berlin, they have stopped running away from the catastrophe they created only long enough to burn their uniforms…

517
DodgerFan1988  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:05:51pm
518
I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:07:12pm

re: #477 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I had mine a couple months before that. Very bad news.

And I’m not feeling well. Two days now. No COVID19 symptoms, I don’t think. Massive headache and the runs. Lovely.

some people have reported “the runs” prior to coming down with Covid-19. I had some in the middle of the infection. Unless you get tested or get more symptoms we don’t know. In the meantime drink plenty of liquids. Take care.

519
The Pie Overlord!  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:08:34pm

Holy shit I thought this was “Fake News”

520
lawhawk  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:08:47pm

re: #515 i(m)p(each)sos

National retail chains aren’t going to expose themselves to lawsuits by employees or customers who get sick from exposure at their establishments. People are going to be averse to going to these places. Multinational businesses aren’t resuming regular travel and returning to work as normal.

The GOP is guaranteeing that this will spread far and wide and prolong the stay-at-home orders nationwide.

521
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:09:15pm

re: #519 The Pie Overlord!

Didn’t Trump just recently claim he had called Kim?

522
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:10:41pm
523
I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:10:58pm

re: #521 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Didn’t Trump just recently claim he had called Kim?

So? they are both brain dead.

524
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:11:53pm

Maybe Trump asked his master Putin to do in Kim, as a way of getting back at Kim for calling Trump a liar about the claim Trump made about receiving a nice note?

525
wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:13:06pm

re: #520 lawhawk

National retail chains aren’t going to expose themselves to lawsuits by employees or customers who get sick from exposure at their establishments. People are going to be averse to going to these places. Multinational businesses aren’t resuming regular travel and returning to work as normal.

The GOP is guaranteeing that this will spread far and wide and prolong the stay-at-home orders nationwide.

Kroger has gone back and forth about face masks. I think they’ll be mandatory tomorrow.

526
Belafon  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:13:09pm

re: #482 Joe Bacon 🌹

If only this worked and we could go back in time to keep Trump from being born…

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If it were up to me, I would concentrate on Newt Gingrich.

527
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:13:26pm

re: #519 The Pie Overlord!

528
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:13:44pm
529
sagehen  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:14:25pm

re: #518 I Would Prefer Not To

some people have reported “the runs” prior to coming down with Covid-19. I had some in the middle of the infection. Unless you get tested or get more symptoms we don’t know. In the meantime drink plenty of liquids. Take care.

Losing your sense of smell and taste is apparently also a preview symptom.

530
William Lewis  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:15:35pm

re: #517 DodgerFan1988

Wonder if someone screwed up a covid intubation?

531
I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:17:20pm

re: #529 sagehen

Losing your sense of smell and taste is apparently also a preview symptom.

Sometimes.
but for me it happened after I was really sick. Covid is a strange one. and will be studied for years.

532
wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:17:38pm

re: #529 sagehen

Losing your sense of smell and taste is apparently also a preview symptom.

I lost some of that 5 years ago. Cranial nerve damage, not preview symptom. So far.

533
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:17:44pm

re: #530 William Lewis

Kim was supposedly absent from a public celebration last week, which he was expected to attend.

534
jaunte  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:18:12pm

Dan Patrick’s fixin’ to Alamo that virus.

535
I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:18:16pm

re: #532 wrenchwench

I lost some of that 5 years ago. Cranial nerve damage, not preview symptom. So far.

Wench! so good to hear from you!

536
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:18:35pm
537
sagehen  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:18:37pm

re: #530 William Lewis

Wonder if someone screwed up a covid intubation?

More likely they were afraid to bring in foreign doctors and/or equipment (and the places they’d usually steal and kidnap them from were too crowded for a stealth theft and kidnap) during the cover mess.

538
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:18:47pm

re: #534 jaunte

Je$us?

539
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:19:43pm

Hypoxia, I would bet, is what is happening to many Covid-19 serious cases, and that will then affect the rest of the body, including the nervous system.

540
jaunte  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:19:57pm

“What science?” Says Dan Patrick.

541
wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:21:08pm

re: #535 I Would Prefer Not To

Wench! so good to hear from you!

Thanks. My internet service is still screwy as hell, and I won’t be here as much as I want to be.

542
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:22:15pm

re: #541 wrenchwench

Thanks. My internet service is still screwy as hell, and I won’t be here as much as I want to be.

That’s okay. We appreciate seeing you when we can.

543
Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:22:47pm

re: #511 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

And don’t forget that Nick Search was a co-srar, acting like his real self…

544
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:23:29pm
545
wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:24:03pm

re: #542 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s okay. We appreciate seeing you when we can.

Gosh. I seem kinda dopey, now…

546
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:24:06pm

re: #544 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Which will do exactly jack shit, except for appease his bloated ego.

547
Patricia Kayden  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:25:24pm

re: #62 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

548
NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:25:36pm
549
jaunte  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:25:55pm
550
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:26:17pm

re: #548 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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1. Trump
2. McConnell
3. Putin
4. Pence
5. Kim Jong-Un

So, okay, they were close. He’s still in the top 5.

551
aatharuv  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:27:47pm

re: #544 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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I hope he realizes that there’s no immigration from Covidia

552
NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:32:48pm

re: #544 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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553
EPR-radar  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:34:43pm

re: #516 retired cynic

Most newly minted “independents” seem to be little more than Republicans who are fleeing the scene of their crime, but at the same time still desperately want believe in the inerrant wisdom of Rush Limbaugh. They are completely incapable of facing the horrifying reality that they have gotten every single major political opinion and decision of their adult lives completely wrong, so instead they double-down on their hatred of women and/or gays and/or brown people and/or Liberals, and blame them for the miserable fuckpit their leaders and their policies have made of their lives and futures.

Like German soldiers after the fall of Berlin, they have stopped running away from the catastrophe they created only long enough to burn their uniforms…

from Driftglass

Fucking this and amen. I would very much like to have the entirety of this text tattooed onto the body of each person in the US political media that pushes the both-sides lie — one tattoo per infraction.

554
wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:35:40pm

re: #551 aatharuv

I hope he realizes that there’s no immigration from Covidia

For half a second there, I felt like I was living in a Marx Brothers movie.

It was a great half second.

555
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 20, 2020 • 7:41:51pm

re: #554 wrenchwench

For half a second there, I felt like I was living in a Marx Brothers movie.

It was a great half second.

Horse Feathers (1/9) Movie CLIP - I’m Against It (1932) HD

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makeitstop  Apr 20, 2020 • 8:08:43pm
557
gocart mozart  Apr 20, 2020 • 8:14:43pm
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austin_blue  Apr 20, 2020 • 9:49:11pm

re: #410 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That boy needs a punch in the mouth. Not that I’m calling for it to happen.

Maybe something that goes “bang”.


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