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If the $2K bill passes the Senate, I fully expect Trump to refuse to sign it because it doesn’t also repeal Section 230.
Repealing Section 230 is an absolutely TERRIBLE idea. It wouldn’t just affect Twitter and Facebook, it would throw the whole internet into chaos.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 29, 2020
So what exactly would happen if section 230 were repealed?
re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg
So what exactly would happen if section 230 were repealed?
People might start lying and being mean on the internet.
re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg
So what exactly would happen if section 230 were repealed?
Basically, Twitter could be held liable for statements that its users make. Which, ironically, would make them MORE prone to take action to remove problematic content like Trump’s. He thinks it will get them to stop flagging his tweets, but they’d wind up just shutting him down (and probably the whole service as well).
re: #4 b.d. (We Won!)
People might start lying and being mean on the internet.
So another day ending in Y, then?
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re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg
So what exactly would happen if section 230 were repealed?
Section 230 says that website owners are not liable for content posted by users.
Getting rid of it would affect every site on the web. If it’s repealed, I would probably have to shut down comments at LGF.
re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg
So another day ending in Y, then?
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and it also make Zuckerberg mad and he’ll complain to his friends Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro about it.
re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg
So what exactly would happen if section 230 were repealed?
Facebook and Twitter become even more ingrained, as the requirements to withstand lawsuits and challenges become possible only for established behemoths.
re: #7 Charles Johnson
Section 230 says that website owners are not liable for content posted by users.
Getting rid of it would affect every site on the web. If it’s repealed, I would probably have to shut down comments at LGF.
Well damn. That would fucking suck.
re: #7 Charles Johnson
Section 230 says that website owners are not liable for content posted by users.
Getting rid of it would affect every site on the web. If it’s repealed, I would probably have to shut down comments at LGF.
That’s what the Republicans want. They will do whatever it takes to shut down dissent.
re: #11 🌹UOJB!
That’s what the Republicans want. They will do whatever it takes to shut down dissent.
But wouldn’t it cause problems for their beloved Parler too?
re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg
Well damn. That would fucking suck.
OTOH, there would be more bandwidth for cat memes.
re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg
But wouldn’t it cause problems for their beloved Parler too?
Isn’t there something in the Parler agreement that makes posters liable for what they do?
re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg
So what exactly would happen if section 230 were repealed?
Do you remember that whole suit that was trying to hold DeRay McKesson and other protest organizers legally responsible and liable for any and all violence and illegality that happened during protests they organized, even when done by outside organizations or agent provocateurs?
This would basically be the online version of that. Sites would be fully liable and responsible for any and all comments and opinions shared on their site or service as they’d be reclassified as publishers of such, regardless of Terms of Service or whatnot. So if someone, say, leveled a death threat on Facebook, Facebook would be legally held liable for facilitating it as if they had made the threat themselves. In essence, it would do the exact opposite of what Trump seems to think it would do: it would make places like Facebook and Twitter even more heavyhanded in erasing, banning, and eliminating any ‘controversial’ statements or opinions to avoid any sort of legal liability transferring over to them. And considering what they already assume of what is’ controversial’ and in violation of their Terms of Service, imagine who would get hit the hardest if that happened?
I’m trying to imagine how many sites would just shut off all comments. It would turn everything into a one-way communication channel akin to the weekly coupon flyer.
— Frank Lynch (@FLynch2020) December 29, 2020
Repeal would even affect ISPs, who would likely be forced to block traffic from controversial sites of any kind. Would basically restrict the internet to corporate communications and commerce.
— Jonathan Vankin (@jonvankin) December 29, 2020
re: #14 🌹UOJB!
Isn’t there something in the Parler agreement that makes posters liable for what they do?
There was but it was removed at some point in the past two months.
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re: #19 Dread Pirate Ron
Are you trying to make us more depressed about the situation in this country?
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re: #19 Dread Pirate Ron
Wow. A functioning goverment. Miss that.
— BuzzIzarownd (@BuzzIzarownd) December 29, 2020
re: #17 Charles Johnson
It would not end the way Trump thinks it would end. He’d tank all of social media because they’d suddenly become responsible for the content being posted by the individuals notwithstanding TOS.
Comments sections serve a purpose even on commercial sites (like businesses and their feedback). Those would all shut down, and while a Facebook might survive in a post-230 world, many others wouldn’t, or they’d go overseas to get hosted because they wouldn’t face the same scrutiny. Trump and these know nothings would gut and filet the one area of the economy untouched by the pandemic because people say mean things about Trump’s nonstop tsunami of lies and malfeasance.
re: #7 Charles Johnson
Section 230 says that website owners are not liable for content posted by users.
Getting rid of it would affect every site on the web. If it’s repealed, I would probably have to shut down comments at LGF.
The initial reaction would pretty much be everyone shutting down comments since it’s much too easy for people to purposefully say actionable things on a forum as a form of sabotage.
Twitter and Facebook would just be two of the larger owners affected.
Mitch McConnell says FUCK YOU to Americans in desperate need.
It isn’t the first time and it won’t be the last time he does this. https://t.co/oENrvdGZTd— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 29, 2020
re: #25 Charles Johnson
Mitch McConnell says FUCK YOU to Americans in desperate need.
It isn’t the first time and it won’t be the last time he does this.
And it probably won’t be the last time he gets away with it too because holding Republicans accountable for anything is anathema to anything the electorate stands for it seems.
re: #24 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
Companies/businesses would be even more likely to police for TOS violations - making it less likely that actionable nonsense stays posted (like racist, violent, misogynist content). They’ll be under pressure to nuke those accounts even faster to stay in business.
It would be on the businesses to better moderate their online channels. It’s a cost they’d have to consider if they want that kind of interactions. Newspapers/zines have been nuking the comments sections because of costs. Moderating isn’t cheap.
Even automating moderation might not help, not when we know that FB and Twitter could automate their moderation and nuke accounts for TOS violations, but kept finding that right wingers were disproportionately getting nuked. In post 230 world, they’d probably go all in on those automation efforts, because that’s only way to protect their business model.
re: #27 Citizen K
Also things like this:
lol “sidestepped” https://t.co/2L4xyWGrF5
— Centrism Fan Acct 🔹 (@Wilson__Valdez) December 29, 2020
I fully expected McConnell and the GOP to block $2K payments, but it’s still infuriating beyond belief. The US federal government is so broken, with an entire political party dedicated to doing evil things to the country for the benefit of billionaires.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 29, 2020
Why the hell is the media insistent on calling this a “stimulus payment?” It won’t “stimulate” shit. These are pure survival payments at this point, after the GOP has let American citizens suffer and die without help for AN ENTIRE YEAR.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 29, 2020
re: #23 lawhawk
Yeah you would think places like Yelp would be fucked if 230 is repealed.
re: #29 Citizen K
Also things like this:
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Did anybody really expect the Times to report on this story that involves one man screwing the entire nation without finding a way to spin it as him being anything other than a totally shitheel?
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re: #28 lawhawk
Companies/businesses would be even more likely to police for TOS violations - making it less likely that actionable nonsense stays posted (like racist, violent, misogynist content). They’ll be under pressure to nuke those accounts even faster to stay in business.
It would be on the businesses to better moderate their online channels. It’s a cost they’d have to consider if they want that kind of interactions. Newspapers/zines have been nuking the comments sections because of costs. Moderating isn’t cheap.
Even automating moderation might not help, not when we know that FB and Twitter could automate their moderation and nuke accounts for TOS violations, but kept finding that right wingers were disproportionately getting nuked. In post 230 world, they’d probably go all in on those automation efforts, because that’s only way to protect their business model.
Which leads to a evolutionary process as the commenters work out and exchange ideas on how to dodge the automation efforts.
re: #31 Charles Johnson
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Because if you call it “relief checks/payments/etc,” then readers remember that there’s a crisis ongoing and that the people who need these checks are victims, thus efforts to short-change them or outright fuck them over makes you a villain.
But call them “stimulus checks” and it sounds like the problem exists in the economy and so denying people these checks can be spun as “standing on principles” or anything other than a deliberate act to being a totally fuckhead.
Calling it a “stimulus” reveals the morally bankrupt thinking behind so much of the US government, that puts the economy ahead of the people. People are just workers to them, expendable drones serving the needs of the economy.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 29, 2020
Hmm, got an email from the apartment management company that they are reimplementing credit card “convenience fees” starting with the next rent payment.
These are something that genuinely piss me off since they are tossing in a nickel and dime charge for something that actually benefits them directly. They save costs from handling, registering, and depositing checks (in addition to getting their money sooner) and insist they should be able to charge me money for doing so.
re: #23 lawhawk
It would not end the way Trump thinks it would end. He’d tank all of social media because they’d suddenly become responsible for the content being posted by the individuals notwithstanding TOS.
Comments sections serve a purpose even on commercial sites (like businesses and their feedback). Those would all shut down, and while a Facebook might survive in a post-230 world, many others wouldn’t, or they’d go overseas to get hosted because they wouldn’t face the same scrutiny. Trump and these know nothings would gut and filet the one area of the economy untouched by the pandemic because people say mean things about Trump’s nonstop tsunami of lies and malfeasance.
$20 says that the first thing that would happen would be every TOS being changed to add an indemnity clause. I also wouldn’t be surprised if social media sites already know which state has the strongest laws (from their point of view) regarding indemnity clauses and will also include a choice of law provision forcing everyone to adhere to that.
Calling them “stimulus checks” goes hand-in-hand with the wingnut mantra that “the best stimulus is a job!” You get to go out to the cameras and imply that the problem lies not in people having no money, but that “small businesses” (i.e. their big business donors) don’t have enough money to “create jobs,” so the ideal situation is not giving people money to spend but giving businesses more money and lower taxes.
And the people who don’t have jobs because businesses are either going under or scaling back in the face of reduced demand due to the ongoing pandemic? You just stick to the BS about how they’re all a bunch of “moochers” who want a “handout” rather than being productive by getting jobs.
re: #25 Charles Johnson
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You can have your $2k but only if section 230 is repealed….
Said no one until Mitch brought it up
Trump never directly linked the two
He only waffled about “the process”
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— Laffy (@GottaLaff) December 29, 2020
re: #42 Dangerman; Not a Dr. & don’t play one on TV
You can have your $2k but only if section 230 is repealed….
Said no one until Mitch brought it upTrump never directly linked the two
He only waffled about “the process”
I think the orange idiot brought it up in his veto, honestly though I can’t really remember because I’ve more or less stopped paying attention to his rants. And thankfully, it does seem like he’s becoming more and more irrelevant, of course January 20 can’t come fast enough.
re: #39 KGxvi
$20 says that the first thing that would happen would be every TOS being changed to add an indemnity clause. I also wouldn’t be surprised if social media sites already know which state has the strongest laws (from their point of view) regarding indemnity clauses and will also include a choice of law provision forcing everyone to adhere to that.
But they’d also need to be tossing a lot more funding into their legal departments to enforce the indemnity clauses as well as handling all the suits naming them as codefendants. Twitter and Facebook might survive that due to deepness of pockets and scale, but a lot of other forums would look at that, say “nope”, and simply kill forums and commenting in general.
re: #40 Targetpractice
Calling them “stimulus checks” goes hand-in-hand with the wingnut mantra that “the best stimulus is a job!” You get to go out to the cameras and imply that the problem lies not in people having no money, but that “small businesses” (i.e. their big business donors) don’t have enough money to “create jobs,” so the ideal situation is not giving people money to spend but giving businesses more money and lower taxes.
And the people who don’t have jobs because businesses are either going under or scaling back in the face of reduced demand due to the ongoing pandemic? You just stick to the BS about how they’re all a bunch of “moochers” who want a “handout” rather than being productive by getting jobs.
Why isn’t everyone out of work an instantly successful “entrepreneur”?//
#TikTokMFers
let’s go
been a long 4 years & we got a shitload of cleaning up to do— #IfYouWantPeaceWorkForJustice #DemCast (@oncedeferred) December 29, 2020
Inhofe is now reading “a card” of all the good things Trump has done. Now he’s lying about JFK and tax cuts.
— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) December 29, 2020
This is McConnell trying to shield Loeffler & Purdue from having to go on record against giving Americans a $2000 lifeline.
Friendly reminder to Georgians; tomorrow 12/30 is the last day of early in person voting.
Election day is 1/5.#HealthJobsJusticehttps://t.co/ooyU7fbJ04— Christopher 🇺🇸 Proud Dem (@cwebbonline) December 29, 2020
Jumping the line
Congress’ attending physician informed lawmakers Monday night that two staffers in every House member and senator’s personal offices are now eligible to receive the coronavirus vaccine,” Politico reports.
“In addition, the Office of the Attending Physician is offering the vaccine to four staffers of every committee chair and every ranking committee member.”
There’s a fucking surprise
If Warnock and Ossoff lose does that mean we’re stuck with GOP Senate control until at least 2022 and possibly longer?
re: #52 Eclectic Cyborg
If Warnock and Ossoff lose does that mean we’re stuck with GOP Senate control until at least 2022 and possibly longer?
Yes.
re: #51 Dangerman; Not a Dr. & don’t play one on TV
Guess how many never wore a mask?
Them motherfuckers need to wait until every single healthcare worker is vaccinated.
re: #51 Dangerman; Not a Dr. & don’t play one on TV
Jumping the line
There’s a fucking surprise
“Give me $10 000 and I’ll put you on my staff.”
re: #45 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
But they’d also need to be tossing a lot more funding into their legal departments to enforce the indemnity clauses as well as handling all the suits naming them as codefendants. Twitter and Facebook might survive that due to deepness of pockets and scale, but a lot of other forums would look at that, say “nope”, and simply kill forums and commenting in general.
You’re probably right about that. Twitter, Facebook, Snapchat, Tiktok, Google, they’ll all have the funds to enforce indemnity clauses. Smaller forums will shut down comments because that simply makes the most sense (hell, insurers will probably be quick to exclude such cases from their GLI policies as well). But those big businesses will also be the most likely targets because of their reach and their (perceived) deep pockets.
re: #42 Dangerman; Not a Dr. & don’t play one on TV
You can have your $2k but only if section 230 is repealed….
Said no one until Mitch brought it upTrump never directly linked the two
He only waffled about “the process”
He did, in his signing statement the other night. He said that Congress would “take up” the checks in conjunction with the Sec 230 repeal and “voter fraud” investigation. And word was that he only agreed to sign the bill on the “promise” from Mitch that $2000 checks would get a vote.
McConnell is doing what he does best: Salting the earth. He puts a House Dem bill to the side with talk about how the Senate will “take up” a Repub-approved bill in its stead, knowing either the bill will fail on a party-line vote and the matter will be “dead” or that it will succeed and then he can spin Pelosi as “standing in the way” of things happening. In either scenario, he gets to tell people that the matter “got a vote” and he’s not responsible for its failure past that point.
re: #52 Eclectic Cyborg
If Warnock and Ossoff lose does that mean we’re stuck with GOP Senate control until at least 2022 and possibly longer?
Barring retirement/death, yes.
re: #51 Dangerman; Not a Dr. & don’t play one on TV
Jumping the line
There’s a fucking surprise
Honestly, I’m ok with this. As incompetent as most members of Congress seem, having staff (who are probably the ones who actually know shit) vaccinated is probably a net positive.
re: #51 Dangerman; Not a Dr. & don’t play one on TV
Jumping the line
There’s a fucking surprise
This should make for some fun reading, hearing how each office decided which staffers got the vaccine versus which ones got told that it didn’t matter how sick they were they either showed up for work or they could kiss their careers in politics goodbye.
“On the afternoon of October 21, seven Phoenix police officers gathered for a briefing in a Cave Creek station when the meeting diverged into a discussion about the defund-the-police movement,” the Arizona Republic reports.When Officer Steven Poulos expressed his thoughts, the room went quiet: “If the mayor defunds the police, I’m going to shoot her.”
The sergeant broke the silence, saying: “You’re not going to shoot the mayor.”
Poulos doubled down: “That’s a promise.”
not fired
not off the job
still entitled to his pension
So why don’t you fucking call Mitch McConnell and tell him to stop blocking $2K payments? Idiotic posturing on Twitter achieves nothing, you useless trash heap. https://t.co/Qo5jEaiMx3
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 29, 2020
re: #61 Dangerman; Not a Dr. & don’t play one on TV
not fired
not off the job
still entitled to his pension
ps - he even pulled out the ‘it was a joke’ excuse
re: #54 nines09
Guess how many never wore a mask?
Them motherfuckers need to wait until every single healthcare worker is vaccinated.
and idiots like this
“The vice chairman of the Massachusetts Republican State Committee is battling COVID-19 after attending what he described as a largely maskless holiday party at the White House earlier this month,” the Boston Globe reports.
he actually blamed the party.
not him choosing to go to the party
personal responsibility my ass
re: #57 Targetpractice
He did, in his signing statement the other night. He said that Congress would “take up” the checks in conjunction with the Sec 230 repeal and “voter fraud” investigation. And word was that he only agreed to sign the bill on the “promise” from Mitch that $2000 checks would get a vote.
McConnell is doing what he does best: Salting the earth. He puts a House Dem bill to the side with talk about how the Senate will “take up” a Repub-approved bill in its stead, knowing either the bill will fail on a party-line vote and the matter will be “dead” or that it will succeed and then he can spin Pelosi as “standing in the way” of things happening. In either scenario, he gets to tell people that the matter “got a vote” and he’s not responsible for its failure past that point.
My mistake then
re: #62 Charles Johnson
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Hes trying to create chaos
Unless Republicans have a death wish, and it is also the right thing to do, they must approve the $2000 payments ASAP. $600 IS NOT ENOUGH! Also, get rid of Section 230 - Don’t let Big Tech steal our Country, and don’t let the Democrats steal the Presidential Election. Get tough! https://t.co/GMotstu7OI
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 29, 2020
Did Lady Kracken send them out to every #BidenHarris voter? Still waiting for mine! https://t.co/qtWub4zFl9 pic.twitter.com/tTmgzMqERt
— Christine Pelosi (@sfpelosi) December 29, 2020
re: #21 nines09
Or as conservatives like to call it, a socialist hellhole.
re: #67 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
A lot of money to get those delivered.
Once again you propagandists show your Republican bias.
HE BLOCKED THE BILL.
HE WANTS PEOPLE TO SUFFER.
AND YOU STENOGRAPHERS GIVE HIM A PASS!— The 3-D Zanti Regent (@josephebacon) December 29, 2020
Just got my mail…now is that subpoena inside the Publishers Clearing House envelope?????
— The 3-D Zanti Regent (@josephebacon) December 29, 2020
re: #70 🌹UOJB!
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“May consider.”
Translation: “The Senate will only vote on the bill if Mitch feels like bringing it to a vote before next week.”
re: #71 🌹UOJB!
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Sidney “Kracken” Powell claims she sent out 81 million subpoenas over the weekend.
Powell just singlehandedly bailed out the US Postal System
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Gym Neighbors makes an asshole out of himself again.
“Hi we’re the founders. How the f*ck did a worthless sack of monkey sh*t like you get elected? What the f*ck did you do to our Republic? Go to hell you worthless f*ck!” pic.twitter.com/cdD0D324lf
— John Allen (@bigjohn801) December 29, 2020
re: #71 🌹UOJB!
At an average cost of $50 per to serve a subpoena, that’s… not an insignificant amount of money.
My guess… she’s “served” everyone on Twitter.
2020 is ending with a grotesque Republican clown opera in the Senate, resulting in the most blatant FU to the US public I’ve ever seen, all of it led by a sleazy crime family with a narcissistic don still trying to turn himself into a dictator by lying and scamming.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 29, 2020
Aw shit…I opened the Publishers Clearing House mail…and there’s no fucking subpoena from that old shrew Sidney! 😢
Maybe I’m cynical about this but our chances of getting $2000 were always worse than being the sole winner of a national lotto game. $600? 50/50 because they know how to not do or eff up anything, and do know how to actually do so few things.
re: #74 🌹UOJB!
Gym Neighbors makes an asshole out of himself again.
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re: #76 Charles Johnson
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And the sad reality is that the only guy who has the balls to say that overriding the NDAA veto is less important than getting much-needed money to millions of Americans…is Bernie Sanders.
And people thought Game of Thrones had a shit ending, it has nothing on 2020.
Here’s the math: If the goal is to reach 80% of Americans vaccinated with a 2-dose #covid19 vaccine, it will take 10 years at our current pace. We are at 1 million vaccinations a week. To get to herd immunity by June 2021, we need to be at 3.5 million vaccinations a day. pic.twitter.com/E78e0xg10z
— Leana Wen, M.D. (@DrLeanaWen) December 29, 2020
I wonder if someone like Mitch McConnell understands what happens when people become desperate. Does he not understand that no amount of security will protect him or his colleagues? Desperate people, especially people desperate to protect their children or other loved ones, are not people to mess with. I’m not hoping for this, but how many of them need to be personally affected before they get the message?
Leading by example. https://t.co/B4fHm6xUAv
— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) December 29, 2020
re: #82 rhuarc
I wonder if someone like Mitch McConnell understands what happens when people become desperate. Does he not understand that no amount of security will protect him or his colleagues? Desperate people, especially people desperate to protect their children or other loved ones, are not people to mess with. I’m not hoping for this, but how many of them need to be personally affected before they get the message?
Who needs any earthly security when you done got Jesus?
re: #82 rhuarc
I wonder if someone like Mitch McConnell understands what happens when people become desperate. Does he not understand that no amount of security will protect him or his colleagues? Desperate people, especially people desperate to protect their children or other loved ones, are not people to mess with. I’m not hoping for this, but how many of them need to be personally affected before they get the message?
Mitch is figuring on that sentiment that pervaded the conversation 2 weeks ago (“$600 is something, stop complaining that it’s not enough!”) will carry the day. Or that he can even find a way next month to spin the failure to get those checks out as Biden’s “fault.”
re: #82 rhuarc
I wonder if someone like Mitch McConnell understands what happens when people become desperate. Does he not understand that no amount of security will protect him or his colleagues? Desperate people, especially people desperate to protect their children or other loved ones, are not people to mess with. I’m not hoping for this, but how many of them need to be personally affected before they get the message?
How many Republican Senators lost their seats in November? What incentive does Mitch have to change?
re: #81 Dread Pirate Ron
Once again, the GOP and Trumpworld fail basic math.
They’ve failed every step of the way, when the math that matters to them is how many more tax breaks they can get while burden shifting to everyone else.
Trump’s wrecked the pandemic response just as badly as he’s wrecked the vaccine distribution.
Warp Speed my ass. It’s as though Trump grabbed the Excelsior and stripped it for parts and sent it on a mission saying it’s good to go while he went for more golf rounds.
I got my first COVID vaccine at my hospital just before Christmas. So relieved that soon I won’t have to worry (as much) about bringing COVID home to my husband.
By the way, we went to his brother’s funeral during the week before Christmas. His brother had died of a COVID related heart attack just as he was starting to feel better. Mac had already gone back to work (at Walmart where he caught COVID) and was found dead in his yard with the lawnmower out. He had been unable to get the last mowing in earlier due to being sick with COVID.
re: #88 ibob
I have a friend who has had terrible post covid heart issues. Had a heart attack 2 weeks ago, finally got out of the hospital on Christmas Eve, and had to go back in yesterday for chest pains.
I’m genuinely worried about her survival.
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re: #89 plansbandc
I have a friend who has had terrible post covid heart issues. Had a heart attack 2 weeks ago, finally got out of the hospital on Christmas Eve, and had to go back in yesterday for chest pains.
I’m genuinely worried about her survival.
A friend of mine just went to the ER today for the THIRD time since catching Covid.
re: #82 rhuarc
I wonder if someone like Mitch McConnell understands what happens when people become desperate. Does he not understand that no amount of security will protect him or his colleagues? Desperate people, especially people desperate to protect their children or other loved ones, are not people to mess with. I’m not hoping for this, but how many of them need to be personally affected before they get the message?
Given the attraction these folk have for gated communities and armed mercenary security forces I’d say very little, or a very deep belief that they can isolate themselves sufficiently behind walls and armed guards.
re: #38 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
Hmm, got an email from the apartment management company that they are reimplementing credit card “convenience fees” starting with the next rent payment.
These are something that genuinely piss me off since they are tossing in a nickel and dime charge for something that actually benefits them directly. They save costs from handling, registering, and depositing checks (in addition to getting their money sooner) and insist they should be able to charge me money for doing so.
I’m curious how much the fees are…is it a percentage of your rent or a flat fee?
re: #93 thedopefishlives
Geez. I feel genuinely lucky to have gotten off as lightly as I did.
nothing’s changed. The virus is totally unpredictable:
Anyone can get it
Anyone can have it and not know it
Anyone who has it (knowing or not) can pass it on
Anyone can survive it
Anyone can die from it
Anyone can experience nasty medical side effects that create a permanent pre-existing condition
The virus does not fight fair
I seriously hope that McConnell’s fucking around with survival money loses the GA Senate seats for the GOP. I would bet the Ossoff and Warnock campaigns are already working on the messaging, but truly, this is not an overly wealthy state. We have more than our fair share of rich assholes to be sure, but most of us are watching the American Dream, slowly at first and now running at almost full speed, die. That 2K pays a mortgage and maybe a utility bill or car payment or two and that’s it. 600 bucks doesn’t go far, hell that three martini lunch the rich fucks can write off now is probably more than that at the right restaurant. People are hurting, and this crap right here is why. They’re just fucking with us now, and hopefully that won’t be lost on voters.
re: #84 🌹UOJB!
Who needs any earthly security when you done got Jesus?
In the case of Mitch and his fellow travellers Jesus would get out his whip and lead the crowd.
re: #7 Charles Johnson
Section 230 says that website owners are not liable for content posted by users.
Getting rid of it would affect every site on the web. If it’s repealed, I would probably have to shut down comments at LGF.
So, no more calling Cruz the Zodiac Killer or posting the widely reported claims that Gym Jordan is the illegitimate son of Charles Manson, or that McConnell routinely visits that small rodent brothel in Lexington?
re: #94 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
Given the attraction these folk have for gated communities and armed mercenary security forces I’d say very little, or a very deep belief that they can isolate themselves sufficiently behind walls and armed guards.
The Bourbons and Romanovs thought the same.
ETA: The problem with mercenaries is one day they realize, “You have money and no guns. We have guns but no money.” The logic following is inescapable.
By the way, why is anybody angry when the game plan that was (informally) agreed upon not but a week ago that we’d “get more next year”? Hadn’t everybody already decided it was a minor Christmas miracle that we’d managed to extract $600 from the Repubs and we should talk up how UI and eviction moratorium were extended?
re: #95 mmmirele
I’m curious how much the fees are…is it a percentage of your rent or a flat fee?
Pretty sure it’s a flat fee. I went out to the management company’s web-site and while there is the notification there is not any declaration anywhere on the site of what the fee is. (I suspect it might well be in my lease, but that’s not on-line and easy to dig out.)
A not-so-fun thing is that a couple of things they requested over the past year involved getting stuff to their office and office staff. Which is closed due to Covid and only real communications is through email. So getting things like pet rent adjusted, supplying documentation about renters insurance and pet immunizations*, etc. is dependent on email plus me being able to scan and/or print documentation. The printing part more difficult for me since I don’t have a printer here.
* - Pet immunizations are overdue since my vet stopped doing wellness appointments in order to save on PPE usage and reduce potential Covid exposure.
re: #95 mmmirele
I’m curious how much the fees are…is it a percentage of your rent or a flat fee?
Be willing to bet it covers the credit card processing fee. Usually somewhere just north of 2%
re: #102 Targetpractice
By the way, why is anybody angry when the game plan that was (informally) agreed upon not but a week ago that we’d “get more next year”? Hadn’t everybody already decided it was a minor Christmas miracle that we’d managed to extract $600 from the Repubs and we should talk up how UI and eviction moratorium were extended?
Because it’s being used as a political game. Don’t be an asshole about it - if you want to help people, pay the money; if you don’t, then don’t even bring it up. Right now, Mitch McConnell and the Republicans are trying to get the best of both worlds purely to win a Senate election, because they don’t give a shit about actual people but only their own power.
re: #101 Romantic Heretic
The Bourbons and Romanovs thought the same.
Yep. Works as long as the mercs get paid and feel they have a better deal with you than with another party.
It’s one reason I am very supportive of there being a robust social safety net. Beyond ethical considerations it *is in my own best interests* not to let society hit desperation levels where personal security is constantly in doubt.
21 states now have seen at least 1 in 1000 residents die from covid19.
NJ and NY are ranked worst and second worst.
NJ is now at 1 in 469 have died from covid19.
NY is at 1 in 518.
ND is at 1 in 600
SD is at 1 in 611.
NY and NJ saw the overwhelming majority of their deaths occur in the first three months of the pandemic when people were just learning how bad it was. They’ve slowed the spread, but are now seeing cases ramping up again here.
SD and ND have seen the bulk of the deaths in the last three months, when GOPers running those states knew but didn’t care. They knowingly wrecked their states. Those were avoidable deaths.
And because people travel, states with lax rules infected those who had more stringent rules because lockdowns were more of a suggestion than enforceable. Trump and right wing lunatics blocked actions to save lives by shutting down religious gatherings where superspreader events have known to occur (such as outbreaks at weddings in churches, bar mitzvahs at shuls, funerals, etc.)
I want to get back to normal too, but not at the cost of seeing more friends and family get sick or die.
re: #68 A Mom Anon
Or as conservatives like to call it, a socialist hellhole.
On another forum I hung out at years ago some wingnut actually put Canada and North Korea in the same category because both had public healthcare.
I gave him an earful, as well as the mods and owner of the website. The mods were letting the wingnuts slide with their bullshit while ‘the Left’ had to write and defend a PhD thesis every time they posted something.
re: #105 thedopefishlives
Because it’s being used as a political game. Don’t be an asshole about it - if you want to help people, pay the money; if you don’t, then don’t even bring it up. Right now, Mitch McConnell and the Republicans are trying to get the best of both worlds purely to win a Senate election, because they don’t give a shit about actual people but only their own power.
Loeffler and Purdue both came out in favor of the increase to $2000. This aligns them with Trump, but since Mitch won’t hold a vote, they’ll never have to officially vote for the survival money. It also allows them to say that they oppose Mitch and you don’t need to vote for the Democrats to reign in Mitch. Since we know most voters are low-info voters, I’m not optimistic about the runoff elections. But we need to keep fighting. I’m going to make another donation to Stacey Abrams’ group.
re: #95 mmmirele
I’m curious how much the fees are…is it a percentage of your rent or a flat fee?
Is is so common for hospital bills it’s ridiculous. Odds are they’re splitting the charges between the biller and the hospital and in no way is the card fee that much (up to $4/5$)
re: #105 thedopefishlives
Because it’s being used as a political game. Don’t be an asshole about it - if you want to help people, pay the money; if you don’t, then don’t even bring it up. Right now, Mitch McConnell and the Republicans are trying to get the best of both worlds purely to win a Senate election, because they don’t give a shit about actual people but only their own power.
Mitch and Repubs aren’t using it as a political game, they’ve been on the record for months as being opposed to any checks whatsoever. Hence why we were all supposed to grin and bear it when Pelosi and Schumer let themselves be talked down to $600.
No offense, but if Donny hadn’t made the suggestion that he’d veto the omnibus bill unless the checks were made larger, folks would still be browbeating anybody who suggested that $600 was chicken scratch with “WHAT DID YOU EXPECT PELOSI TO DO?!”
re: #109 Dr. Teddy’s Person
Loeffler and Purdue both came out in favor of the increase to $2000. This aligns them with Trump, but since Mitch won’t hold a vote, they’ll never have to officially vote for the survival money. It also allows them to say that they oppose Mitch and you don’t need to vote for the Democrats to reign in Mitch. Since we know most voters are low-info voters, I’m not optimistic about the runoff elections. But we need to keep fighting. I’m going to make another donation to Stacey Abrams’ group.
If they really cared, they could join with 48 Democrats and force a vote.
re: #112 KingKenrod
If they really cared, they could join with 48 Democrats and force a vote.
Exactly!
73 years ago, there was a smallpox outbreak in March of 1947 in NYC involving at least 2 cases of contacts getting smallpox after a 3d person - the carrier died and was identified to have smallpox postmortem. Within weeks, at least 4 million New Yorkers were vaccinated.
Why are we doing as badly as we are today? In a word? Trump.
We’re doing badly because logistics was never part of the plan. Playing to Trump’s fragile ego was the only thing that mattered.
The story of the vaccination campaign in 1947 is one of fits and starts, but one that showed how government could vaccinate a large number of people in a short period of time when all the resources were brought to bear. But it also showed the difficulty of getting vaccinations to those that needed them quickly. It’s still faster than we’re seeing.
And the rate we’re seeing of distribution and vaccination is slower than it should be given modern means. The problem is all on the logistics of distribution and getting it in the hands of the doctors and the costs for doing so getting picked up.
All of this was avoidable.
re: #112 KingKenrod
If they really cared, they could join with 48 Democrats and force a vote.
And we know that Susan Collins will continue with her “I’m concerned” bullshit yet she won’t lift a finger to help people.
re: #74 🌹UOJB!
Gym Neighbors makes an asshole out of himself again.
Rep. Jim Jordan
@Jim_Jordan
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Dec 29, 2020
60 million Americans are subject to a stay at home order or curfew.11 million are right here in Ohio.
What would the Founders say?
Judging by their response to the 1793 yellow fever epidemic, they’d say to stay the fuck at home.
re: #116 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!
Judging by their response to the 1793 yellow fever epidemic, they’d say to stay the fuck at home.
And we know what Gym Neighbors thinks “yellow fever” means…
re: #108 Romantic Heretic
On another forum I hung out at years ago some wingnut actually put Canada and North Korea in the same category because both had public healthcare.
I gave him an earful, as well as the mods and owner of the website. The mods were letting the wingnuts slide with their bullshit while ‘the Left’ had to write and defend a PhD thesis every time they posted something.
I saw that on a few other forums. Owner was letting a lot of junk slide I think because he was trying to maintain a “balance” and thought the right wingers were taking a lot of flak and did not want the forum to be considered anti-Trump. It’s also the approach you see from the “pox on both their houses” quasi-libertarians who simply think both political parties are the same in being part of the controlling oligarchy running the country. (I was part of the latter quite a ways back. Main thing that shifted me was the GOP turning into an anti-education party due to their authoritarian religious allies.)
re: #109 Dr. Teddy’s Person
The early voting numbers are encouraging, and it’s going to be a nail biter to be sure. WCK has been here at various locations to feed people stuck in lines, and there are a lot more young people voting this year than ever. That’s a hopeful sign. But yes, it’s still Georgia and it could all go to hell on election night. I am ready for this to be done so we can figure out how we’re going to survive this. We’re living off disability, there’s no 401K or other income except the occasional building inspection my hubby does as side work. I’m not old enough to collect social security yet and even that, because I was a stay home mom for the better part of 3 decades, is going to maybe be another 500 a month. If Republicans keep performing like usual, our lives will not ever get easier. Even with Democrats at the helm, it’s going to be an uphill battle. There really is no safety net. It’s a bullshit illusion.
re: #52 Eclectic Cyborg
If Warnock and Ossoff lose does that mean we’re stuck with GOP Senate control until at least 2022 and possibly longer?
Insider trading charges can change it sooner
So could sedition charges against the majority leader as well.
Lost in everything else awful:
GOP is still suing to invalidate Obamacare and strip health coverage from millions of Americans during a pandemic.
GOP and Trump still suing to eliminate protections for Americans w/preexisting conditions (which now includes survivors of covid19)— lawhawk #maskingforafriend (@lawhawk) December 29, 2020
There is a turkey about 15 feet up in a tree just past my back fence and my dog won’t stop barking at it. It has been about an hour now and the turkey seems entirely nonplussed.
re: #103 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
Pretty sure it’s a flat fee. I went out to the management company’s web-site and while there is the notification there is not any declaration anywhere on the site of what the fee is. (I suspect it might well be in my lease, but that’s not on-line and easy to dig out.)
A not-so-fun thing is that a couple of things they requested over the past year involved getting stuff to their office and office staff. Which is closed due to Covid and only real communications is through email. So getting things like pet rent adjusted, supplying documentation about renters insurance and pet immunizations*, etc. is dependent on email plus me being able to scan and/or print documentation. The printing part more difficult for me since I don’t have a printer here.
* - Pet immunizations are overdue since my vet stopped doing wellness appointments in order to save on PPE usage and reduce potential Covid exposure.
Is your cat an outdoor cat? My vet stopped routinely immunizing indoor cats years ago, on the grounds that they weren’t needed.
Not used to hearing a President telling the truth…
re: #119 A Mom Anon
I just donated to Fair Fight. I hope my pessimism is misplaced and Ossoff/Warnock pull out a win. I’d love to see both of them in the Senate.
re: #120 William Lewis
Insider trading charges can change it sooner
So could sedition charges against the majority leader as well.
Sedition isn’t going to happen. In my extensive binging on lawtwitter this past month and change, sedition apparently requires an element of force. Actually trying to perform a coup d’etat by calling out the Trump-humping militias would be sedition. Trying to use legal jiu-jitsu to accomplish one de facto, apparently, gets a big shrug.
re: #119 A Mom Anon
The early voting numbers are encouraging, and it’s going to be a nail biter to be sure. WCK has been here at various locations to feed people stuck in lines, and there are a lot more young people voting this year than ever. That’s a hopeful sign. But yes, it’s still Georgia and it could all go to hell on election night. I am ready for this to be done so we can figure out how we’re going to survive this. We’re living off disability, there’s no 401K or other income except the occasional building inspection my hubby does as side work. I’m not old enough to collect social security yet and even that, because I was a stay home mom for the better part of 3 decades, is going to maybe be another 500 a month. If Republicans keep performing like usual, our lives will not ever get easier. Even with Democrats at the helm, it’s going to be an uphill battle. There really is no safety net. It’s a bullshit illusion.
I think we went over this before. Your SS payment will be the amount you or your spouse is entitled to, whichever is higher.
re: #123 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!
Is your cat an outdoor cat? My vet stopped routinely immunizing indoor cats years ago, on the grounds that they weren’t needed.
Technically yes now since she is allowed some outside privileges.* I should see if I can get her scheduled for the next week or so.
* - I’ll let her out for a bit late morning while I fix coffee. Perhaps longer if the weather is nice and I don’t mind the door being open. She has proved to date to not go too far and she avoids the road and moving cars.
The neighbor cats got out yesterday. One chased her inside. There was much hissing as she retreated and then she hid upstairs for another hour or so.
One of the neighbor cats started wandering pretty far afield, including crossing a sometimes busy road. So the owner converted them back into fulltime indoor cats, though they get out now and then still.
re: #128 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
Neighbor cats are very pretty kitties.
re: #119 A Mom Anon
The early voting numbers are encouraging, and it’s going to be a nail biter to be sure. WCK has been here at various locations to feed people stuck in lines, and there are a lot more young people voting this year than ever. That’s a hopeful sign. But yes, it’s still Georgia and it could all go to hell on election night. I am ready for this to be done so we can figure out how we’re going to survive this. We’re living off disability, there’s no 401K or other income except the occasional building inspection my hubby does as side work. I’m not old enough to collect social security yet and even that, because I was a stay home mom for the better part of 3 decades, is going to maybe be another 500 a month. If Republicans keep performing like usual, our lives will not ever get easier. Even with Democrats at the helm, it’s going to be an uphill battle. There really is no safety net. It’s a bullshit illusion.
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Somebody’s worried their 15 min are approaching expiration:
Sidney Powell: Sneaky Georgia officials may have ‘rigged’ runoffs ‘so that the two Republicans win’ https://t.co/JKWfoUbmXK
— Raw Story (@RawStory) December 29, 2020
“Well, yes,” Powell said. “I would suggest everybody in Georgia turn out on election day and do it again. Vote for the Republican candidates in mass numbers and see what happens.”
“And it might be that they’ve even rigged the system so that the two Republicans win so they can say, ‘Oh, see, there’s no problem,’” she added.
re: #131 Targetpractice
Somebody’s worried their 15 min are approaching expiration:
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So if the dems win, the election was rigged, but if the repugs win, the election is rigged. Got it.
Time for my walk. Later…
re: #132 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!
So if the dems win, the election was rigged, but if the repugs win, the election is rigged. Got it.
Time for my walk. Later…
If Donald J. Trump wins, then the election is fair. That’s the rule.
Sidney’s pretty obviously worried that after next month, her worth to the Wingnut Welfare Circuit is gonna take a nosedive. There’s only so many ways she can say “TRUMP WAS ROBBED!” before people get tired and move on.
re: #129 thedopefishlives
Neighbor cats are very pretty kitties.
Social as well. I have a number of pictures of them when they were outside more often. One or both would come over to see me if I was sitting on the front stoop drinking coffee, eating something, or even just sitting there. (Floof Cat is fairly social with their owner as well - presuming that you let her sniff the hand first before you try to pet her.)
I have an evergreen bush right beside the stoop on the side opposite the air conditioner that is a favored location to hide behind and under. Sheltered, and it supplies a hidden place to watch the birds and squirrels in the yard from. And all the cats sniff it - possibly being marked but also because I think a bunch of sparrows and juncos also hang out in it when there is not a cat around.
re: #132 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!
So if the dems win, the election was rigged, but if the repugs win, the election is rigged. Got it.
Time for my walk. Later…
Sounds like someone has an axe to grind with the Georgia Secretary of State.
If Mitch McConnell’s heart were any blacker he wouldn’t let it vote
— buttonslives (@buttonslives) December 29, 2020
re: #132 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!
So if the dems win, the election was rigged, but if the repugs win, the election is rigged. Got it.
Time for my walk. Later…
Schroedingers Election.
re: #134 Targetpractice
Sidney’s pretty obviously worried that after next month, her worth to the Wingnut Welfare Circuit is gonna take a nosedive. There’s only so many ways she can say “TRUMP WAS ROBBED!” before people get tired and move on.
Gotta start working on your next grifting gig:
Goodbye, martial law! Hello, Marshall Field’s! https://t.co/cPFseRXEB7
— Noah Shachtman (@NoahShachtman) December 29, 2020
Mitch McConnell has sent an unmistakable message to the American people and to the voters of Georgia: Vote for @ReverendWarnock and @ossoff, work for them, donate to them, help them win…or your government will let almost all Americans suffer and serve only the richest among us.
— David Rothkopf (@djrothkopf) December 29, 2020
— August No Malarkey Mac (@carrybeyond) December 29, 2020
re: #139 b.d. (We Won!)
Gotta start working on your next grifting gig:
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Flynn is committing sedition. His pardon should be voided.
re: #89 plansbandc
I have a friend who has had terrible post covid heart issues. Had a heart attack 2 weeks ago, finally got out of the hospital on Christmas Eve, and had to go back in yesterday for chest pains.
I’m genuinely worried about her survival.
My next door neighbor tested Postive for Covid yesterday. He said he felt ill and down in the dumps for 3 days which makes me wonder if that is what I had 6 months ago. I have not been tested.
The really bad part of this story is that his wife’s mother just passed away and the funeral is this weekend. She cannot attend her own mother’s funeral for fear of transmitting Covid to the overwhelming number of elderly people that will be attending as well as the at-risk family members.
re: #130 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!
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Since you asked, here is what John Adams said about “the common good”, which the founding fathers felt strongly about: pic.twitter.com/xa37ezFDJ1
— Trixie Belle (@trixiebelle47) December 29, 2020
re: #142 🌹UOJB!
Flynn is committing sedition. His pardon should be voided.
A few days ago there was something going around how the Army should recall him to active duty and them take him to task. Not sure if that could be a real deal though, sure it won’t happen.
In July of 1776 the entire of city of Boston was closed so they could safely inoculate for smallpox. It lasted months and no one could leave once it began. They did it again in 1778. The Founders would be proud that the government was protecting its citizens from disease. https://t.co/xfiKiWhoga
— Andrew Wehrman (@ProfWehrman) December 29, 2020
And this tweet really blew up. You’ll have to all promise to buy my book “The Contagion of Liberty” when it comes out next year, ok?
— Andrew Wehrman (@ProfWehrman) December 29, 2020
re: #148 William Lewis
He grew up fast didn’t he? They all do, damn it. Sigh.
OK whose secret identity is this?
WARNING GRAPHIC ⚠️ Woman in New Jersey stabs an Orthodox Jewish man from behind & he pulls the knife out of his back like a badass. He managed to hold her down until police arrive. pic.twitter.com/JrcKnuKmyR
— Fifty Shades of Whey (@davenewworld_2) December 29, 2020
re: #142 🌹UOJB!
Flynn is committing sedition. His pardon should be voided.
Don’t worry. Flynn’s massive ego will continue to define his existence and he will screw up and break the law again. He probably will be called to give statements under oath which he will either be caught lying again or implicate himself in other schemes.
Trump will not be there to save him.
In which POTUS continues to sabotage his own party:
Loeffler, Perdue Support Increasing Relief Payments to $2K https://t.co/xLFHNDOBIR via @BreitbartNews. Republicans must support the $2000 payments and must FIGHT the crooked presidential election. We won big!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 29, 2020
re: #147 Dr. Teddy’s Person
1793 Philadelphia essentially had a quarantine for yellow fever. While it was still the Capital.
re: #153 KGxvi
1973 Philadelphia essentially had a quarantine for yellow fever. While it was still the Capital.
Wasn’t that 1793?
And our favorite asparagus in Congress, GOHMERT!, is apparently getting impatient. Geez, man, you only filed this case two days ago and you haven’t even served anybody yet, what did you expect?!
There’s been a bit of movement in Gohmert’s coo-coo for coco puffs case. (That’s a term of art.) The plaintiffs haven’t managed to get the government’s lawyers to agree to anything, are frustrated with delay, and are asking the court to jump in.https://t.co/m3VFFO19MZ
— Mike Dunford (@questauthority) December 29, 2020
re: #153 KGxvi
1793 Philadelphia essentially had a quarantine for yellow fever. While it was still the Capital.
Dolley Madison lost her first husband in that epidemic.
re: #109 Dr. Teddy’s Person
I also donated some more to the GA candidates today. I want to help give them the advantage in getting people to the polls.
re: #40 Targetpractice
Calling them “stimulus checks” goes hand-in-hand with the wingnut mantra that “the best stimulus is a job!”
Surely “the best stimulus is a job!” is a bit of a stretch, to put it mildly, in this current climate? How many have lost their jobs due to this pandemic, and the manner in which they’ve lost their jobs depends entirely upon the quality of the current government in charge?
re: #160 Alephnaught
Surely “the best stimulus is a job!” is a bit of a stretch, to put it mildly, in this current climate? How many have lost their jobs due to this pandemic, and the manner in which they’ve lost their jobs depends entirely upon the quality of the current government in charge?
Almost 900 000 people filed for Unemployment LAST. FUCKING. WEEK.
2020 ain’t done with us yet.
Today we discovered Colorado’s first case of the COVID-19 variant B.1.1.7, the same variant discovered in the UK.
The health and safety of Coloradans is our top priority and we will monitor this case, as well as all COVID-19 indicators, very closely. pic.twitter.com/fjyq7QhzBi— Governor Jared Polis (@GovofCO) December 29, 2020
We are due to hit 20 000 000 total cases and over 350 000 dead by year’s end.
re: #116 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!
Judging by their response to the 1793 yellow fever epidemic, they’d say to stay the fuck at home.
I went to go read the Wikipedia article about it. It includes apart of a pamphlet from a publisher in Philadelphia, who described the changes to the city:
Acquaintances and friends avoided each other in the streets, and only signified their regard by a cold nod. The old custom of shaking hands fell in such general disuse, that many shrunk back with affright at even the offer of a hand.
re: #77 🌹UOJB!
Aw shit…I opened the Publishers Clearing House mail…and there’s no fucking subpoena from that old shrew Sidney! 😢
But, and lemme guess here, you
may have ALREADY WON?
Hmm. This tidbit from Mike’s thread on the GOHMERT! lawsuit is fascinating.
Not just that, but it seems that the government’s lawyers even had the temerity to demand that Louie’s crew of nose-honking, whitewash-slinging, ladder-tripping lawyers actually serve their client properly. pic.twitter.com/CtenPTRHIF
— Mike Dunford (@questauthority) December 29, 2020
It appears Vice-President Pence has no intention of playing the Pence Card.
I wonder how many people outside the US are aware that McConnell is the defacto dictator of America? The word should be spread far and wide and McTurtle must come under global scrutiny and possibly international sanctions.
More than 75,000 Kentuckians are facing eviction. But Mitch McConnell is blocking $2000 checks to keep families afloat.
He is an embarrassment to Kentucky and an embarrassment to America.— Robert Reich (@RBReich) December 29, 2020
Maybe they’ll decide to bunk at his place.
This election is a choice between hope and fear.
I’m humbly asking for your vote so I can get to work for all Georgians. pic.twitter.com/KDu2vSp1Nu— Reverend Raphael Warnock (@ReverendWarnock) December 29, 2020
re: #162 Dr. Teddy’s Person
2020 ain’t done with us yet.
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To be fair, at least he said “the COVID-19 variant B.1.1.7, the same variant discovered in the UK.”
The reason I point this out is that there was a bit of whining by a UK Brexit representative recently about how COVID-19 variant B.1.1.7 was generally reported as the “UK variant”, and he was going “NO, it’s not UK variant!!! It was discovered in the UK!!!”.
The same person was arguing months earlier for Trump et al calling Covid the “Chinese virus”…
How it started How it’s going#EnglishVirus pic.twitter.com/vMo9FlO73w
— James 💜 Loxley (@oldnorthroad) December 29, 2020
And as it turns out, GOHMERT! just got slapped with the same ruling as from the D.C. Court case:
Just Came in:
MINUTE ORDER: The Court ORDERS that a briefing schedule will be set on Plaintiffs emergency motion (Docket No. 2) after Plaintiffs file proof of service in accordance with Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 4(i). (ksd)— WillisisCray (@WillisisCray) December 29, 2020
You’re not going to get $2000 and Republicans made sure of it.
It’s that simple.— Josh Moon (@Josh_Moon) December 29, 2020
*BREAKING per @washingtonpost : The Manhattan District Attorney’s Office has retained forensic accounting specialists to aid its criminal investigation of Trump & his business operations, as prosecutors ramp up their scrutiny of his company’s real estate transactions.*
— Spiro Agnew’s Ghost (@SpiroAgnewGhost) December 29, 2020
More @JaneyGodley voiceover over Scotland’s First Minister @NicolaSturgeon cribbed off news footage from @STVNews:
“Don’t let Covid be your first foot at Hogmanay” #janeygodleyvoiceover pic.twitter.com/nlBoBZqxlB
— Janey Godley (@JaneyGodley) December 29, 2020
“… or I’ll stick my toe up the crack of your bahoogkie.”
Boston Dynamics has released yet another video of its robots dancing that is equal parts impressive, creepy, and cringe https://t.co/RF5mQQhC0m pic.twitter.com/h9hDiEJK8X
— Mikael Thalen (@MikaelThalen) December 29, 2020
re: #173 KingKenrod
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Womp, womp, you orange motherfucker…
To quote Backdraft, “You see that glow flashing in the corner of your eye? That’s your career dissipation light. It just went into high gear.”
Hopefully, a lifetime of shady dealings and tax dodges are going to be paid back in full on Trump & Co.’s heads.
re: #172 jaunte
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You’re not going to get $2000 and Republicans made sure of it.
It’s that simple.— Josh Moon (@Josh_Moon) December 29, 2020
- Republicans AND one specific Republican
hammer it
re: #175 gocart mozart
Great. Can’t wait until they give it a badge and weapon.
re: #173 KingKenrod
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*BREAKING per @washingtonpost : The Manhattan District Attorney’s Office has retained forensic accounting specialists to aid its criminal investigation of Trump & his business operations, as prosecutors ramp up their scrutiny of his company’s real estate transactions.*
— Spiro Agnew’s Ghost (@SpiroAgnewGhost) December 29, 2020
In the midst of the chaos that is life, the internet is on the verge of becoming a Hallmark card or else, and people out of work and struggling have to pretend to be grateful for $600 when $600 would be gone in the wink of an eye anyway with real life food, housing, and whatnot. And then its recipients, like the dread proverbial welfare queens in Cadillacs, badmouthed for all eternity for how they did or didn’t stimulate the fucking economy. “Here’s your bone, you better be grateful.”
Meanwhile, the clinically, technically, righteously insane clown that is POTUS lies with impunity about the motherfucking election that ended in motherfucking November, and rich folk can sleep well knowing those piece of shit Republicans have their best interest at the forefront of their filthy rotten minds 24/7, and the biggest lie ever sold to the world about trickle down economics is safe for another decade or four because that lie cannot and will not be retired.
Damn straight, runon sentences are how the mind feels anymore. It’s the only way to keep the overflow from leaking out the ears. Where’s my car keys, where are my glasses, and oh yeah, all that other shit. Can’t forget any one piece or it all falls apart.
It’s Groundhog Day, and it’s taxing on the spirit. I mean, I’m just fucking worn out with it. It’s Lucy and the football every damned day. It’s waking up every morning with a losing hand and refusing to get out of the game. It’s nuts.
May Mitch McConnell’s gravestone spend not even a single day urine-free.
— Middle Age Riot (@middleageriot) December 29, 2020
Penguin Love
Photographer Tobias Baumgaertner captured this image of two widowed fairy penguins looking over the Melbourne skyline. It has won an award in Oceanographic magazine’s Ocean Photography Awards 2020.
— meindiva🐝🛫🚉🚍🚗🌁 (@meindiva) December 28, 2020
One of my dearest friends was going through a painful divorce when March of the Penguins came out. Some of her friends talked her into going to the see the movie. She left in the middle and called me from the lobby sobbing “it’s about penguin love.”
re: #180 PrairieQueen
I am SO with you. The anxiety is just ridiculous. I’ve got Cleo related injuries to my knees and shoulders and I can’t even go for a walk and it hurts to drive. That used to be a go to for me to just drive to the park and walk for awhile. Or work in the garden. It’s more than I can do right now. So I hang out here, try a new recipe now and then and try to keep going.
But these assholes make it tough. So they have someone to judge and to laugh at. So they can stuff their pockets with more money than they could ever spend. So they can look down their noses at us. It’s hard to handle because we aren’t like that and often cannot grasp why the fuck it’s so damned hard to be a decent human. Because it really isn’t. It’s much more difficult to be a petulant shit head fuck weasel. And until we, as a country embrace the good side of humanity and stop glorifying this awfulness, we have no damned business pretending we’re superior to anyone.
A one-time payment of $600 would be meaningless as would a one-time payment of $2000. It should be extended through at least May when hiring will begin again and hopefully we’ll be in a trough with more and more vaccinations. Everything being done now reminds me of two Japanese expressions:
suzume no namida (“tears of a sparrow”)
yaki-ishi ni mizu (“sprinkling water on a burning stone”)
Amended: no, any amount of money is some help. I acknowledge. And $2000 could save many families from homelessness now. So I retract that.
re: #185 A Mom Anon
Speaking of Cleo, how’s she doing with her skin issues?
re: #182 Targetpractice
Ladies and gentlemen, our future robotic overlords.
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Sadly, their dancing is both better and less creepy than mine.
re: #184 Dr. Teddy’s Person
OMG. That made me cry. So sad and so adorably sweet.
From the Federal Department of Fuck Black People…
WASHINGTON (@AP) — Justice Dept. declines charges against Cleveland officers in 2014 fatal shooting of Tamir Rice, closing federal probe.
— Stefanie Dazio (@steffdaz) December 29, 2020
re: #187 Dr. Teddy’s Person
She has a doctor appointment tomorrow. We’ll know more then. She’s back on the apoquel which is at least helping her sleep better at night but the dandruff is insane. She’s chewed herself to almost bloody in places too. She probably will need at least omega 3s orally and omega 6 solution applied to her skin. It’s so dry, and the shedding is UNREAL. Beyond the normal “German Shedder” reputation. Sigh. I swear, every doggo I have ever loved has health problems of some kind. Must be my damned caregiver instincts.
re: #185 A Mom Anon
I am SO with you. The anxiety is just ridiculous. I’ve got Cleo related injuries to my knees and shoulders and I can’t even go for a walk and it hurts to drive.
So many people have awful stories to tell as they endure this godforsaken marathon. Some are more awful than others, but it’s all so hard to stay upright. And you know, being thankful for what you got just doesn’t cut it when there’s no end in site to the bullshit. Thinking someone else has it worse doesn’t evoke a feeling of satisfaction with the bullshit you have, because the bullshit you have doesn’t get less bullshitty because someone else has their own.
“First, do no harm,” should not be a socialist mantra. In fact, it should be the definition of conservatism, but theirs is the opposite.
There are people who wake up every day looking for ways to fuck the little guy, they’re in power, and they never stop. In fact, it’s their life force, it’s what they use for fuel. And when some of them finally crawl off and die, El Rushbo for example (when he does), they’re immortalized for all the horrible things they said and did, because they are the shining examples of how they made that inherently evil system work, and a blueprint for the ones still breathing.
I would be more disturbed by the robots dancing to WAP. (well anointed parts).
re: #183 Romantic Heretic
One is a movie.
One is real
re: #184 Dr. Teddy’s Person
Damn onion cutting ninjas…
re: #182 Targetpractice
Ladies and gentlemen, our future robotic overlords.
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Any lifeform that has better rhythm than whites deserves to be in charge.
re: #190 thedopefishlives
From the Federal Department of Fuck Black People…
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Justice Department won’t prosecute cops who killed 12-year-old Tamir Rice because video wasn’t good enough
It was pretty fucking clear that the fucking car was still moving when the asshole started shooting. Ugh. What is wrong with these fuckers? (rhetorical question)
re: #197 BeachDem
Justice Department won’t prosecute cops who killed 12-year-old Tamir Rice because video wasn’t good enough
It was pretty fucking clear that the fucking car was still moving when the asshole started shooting. Ugh. What is wrong with these fuckers? (rhetorical question)
This is why I really want Jones to be AG. Nothing against the other names but I believe civil rights must be prioritized by DOJ and I think Jones is best suited for that. Sessions, Whittaker, & Barr have been four years of awfulness at DOJ.
re: #159 stpaulbear
I also donated some more to the GA candidates today. I want to help give them the advantage in getting people to the polls.
I donated to Stacy’s “Fair Fight”. That’s Georgia enough for me.
We’re going to reach the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks before the #GTMO military commission trial of the five lead defendants even *begins.*
It didn’t have to be this way. And each of the past three administrations bears at least some of the blame for this embarrassment. https://t.co/e66yg4Skbb— Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck) December 29, 2020
re: #199 sagehen
I donated to Stacy’s “Fair Fight”. That’s Georgia enough for me.
Fair Fight is great. I got a thank you card from them today. Looks like a Christmas card. I think my donation today went 1/3 each to the candidates and Fair Fight.
re: #190 thedopefishlives
From the Federal Department of Fuck Black People…
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Less than 30 days to go…
re: #202 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!
Less than 30 days to go…
Unfortunately, cops will still hate black people long after Biden takes office.
Trump to states: “You’re on your own, assholes.”
It is up to the States to distribute the vaccines once brought to the designated areas by the Federal Government. We have not only developed the vaccines, including putting up money to move the process along quickly, but gotten them to the states. Biden failed with Swine Flu!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 29, 2020
re: #201 stpaulbear
Fair Fight is great. I got a thank you card from them today. Looks like a Christmas card. I think my donation today went 1/3 each to the candidates and Fair Fight.
That’s how mine went, but I don’t think I got a card. I might be wrong though — I made an omnibus donation that went to a bunch of dem candidates in various races, and now I’m getting cards and emails from people I never heard of. One from Stacey might have been in the bundle.
re: #203 Eclectic Cyborg
Unfortunately, cops will still hate black people long after Biden takes office.
But the Justice Department won’t.
UNPRECEDENTED(ly low) LEVELS OF FRAUD!!!
In a COMPLETELY UNEXPECTED development, the Georgia absentee ballot signature audit revealed…. No fraud. At all.
God those Dominion people are devilish. How do they keep pulling this off? https://t.co/6HuWDj2DVI— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) December 29, 2020
re: #204 Eclectic Cyborg
You’ve botched every aspect of the pandemic response. You’ve screwed up the vaccine distribution and don’t have any funding to help states get the vaccines to those who need it.
Gen. Perna admitted they’ve screwed up their part of the process.
You’ve screwed up everything.— lawhawk #maskingforafriend (@lawhawk) December 29, 2020
Trump’s fucked up everything and taken zero responsibility for anything. He’s a saboteur and chaos agent and he will be to the very end of his time.
Trump doesn’t care how many die.
Trump doesn’t care how many are able to get vaccines.
He’s keen to blame others for his failures.
And he’s counting on a media to cover for him too.
re: #204 Eclectic Cyborg
What the hell is that last sentence? Biden wasn’t President, also too, swine flu’s death count was what 1/6 of covid’s so far. So Far.
I really never expected to hate anyone as much as I do this psychopathic POS. And I hate him even more for that, because I am not hateful.
In other expected awfulness: Trump’s DOJ refuses to address Tamir Rice’s murderers.
This is a load of crap.
Rice was murdered by Cleveland cops..it was caught on video. We saw how cops drove up, gave him no chance and gunned him down in mere seconds. He never had a chance. https://t.co/ufAZvM413B— lawhawk #maskingforafriend (@lawhawk) December 29, 2020
re: #206 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!
But the Justice Department won’t.
Obama’s DOJ declined to prosecute just as many police involved shootings as anyone.
Edit: Also, the Feds don’t prosecute murder cases unless they have a federal angle. Any case brought by the DOJ would be have to be for hate crimes or civil rights violations or some such which are going to be harder to prove, and in court it isn’t about what you feel, or even what you know, it is about what you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
re: #210 lawhawk
In other expected awfulness: Trump’s DOJ refuses to address Tamir Rice’s murderers.
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There is no statute of limitations. The refusal to prosecute by one agency does not cause double jeopardy. The good one willing, they will yet pay for his murder.
re: #211 danarchy
Obama’s DOJ declined to prosecute just as many police involved shootings as anyone.
This. That shit is fucking ingrained at DOJ.
The Founders would be surprised you never became a lawyer despite going to law school.
— Devin Nunes’ cow 🐮 (@DevinCow) December 29, 2020
re: #144 A Mom Anon
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re: #214 Dread Pirate Ron
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Being a right wing grifter was easier. What’s more is his alma mater isn’t some right wing shithole like Liberty or Regent. He’s a hack who sees his rise linked with the politics of stupid.
“… and your mammy don’t wear no drawers.”
Jelly Roll Morton, The Dirty Dozen https://t.co/dGSBENHuwR via @YouTube— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) December 29, 2020
Oh you dirty motherfucker
You old cocksucker
You dirty son of a bitch
You bastard
You’re everything
And yo’ mammy don’t wear no drawers
Yes, you did me this, you did me that
You did your father
You did your mother
You did everybody you come to
‘Cause yo’ mammy don’t wear no drawers
That’s the Dirty Dozen
Oh, the Dirty lovin’ Dozen
The Dirty Dozen
Yes yo’ mammy don’t wear no drawers
Please let Ossoff and Warnock win and have 2021 get off to a good start…
re: #205 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!
That’s how mine went, but I don’t think I got a card. I might be wrong though — I made an omnibus donation that went to a bunch of dem candidates in various races, and now I’m getting cards and emails from people I never heard of. One from Stacey might have been in the bundle.
This was an actual paper card in the USPS mail. I’ve donated to them a couple time before.
re: #217 gocart mozart
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Oh you dirty motherfucker
You old cocksucker
You dirty son of a bitch
You bastard
You’re everything
And yo’ mammy don’t wear no drawers
Yes, you did me this, you did me that
You did your father
You did your mother
You did everybody you come to
‘Cause yo’ mammy don’t wear no drawers
That’s the Dirty Dozen
Oh, the Dirty lovin’ Dozen
The Dirty Dozen
Yes yo’ mammy don’t wear no drawers
A little hysterical perspective.
re: #210 lawhawk
In other expected awfulness: Trump’s DOJ refuses to address Tamir Rice’s murderers.
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And let us not forget what the piece o’shit head of the police union wrote when Tamir’s family got a settlement.
You have got to be kidding me. BUT YOU AREN’T. https://t.co/D7c5ZturZP pic.twitter.com/Vj3LWc2ho0
— Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner) April 25, 2016
And when a Browns’ player wore a Justice for Tamir shirt, Jeff Follmer, president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen’s Association, reportedly said that Hawkins’ shirt was disrespectful, and demanded an apology from the football team.
re: #190 thedopefishlives
From the Federal Department of Fuck Black People…
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Can this be revisited in by the Biden DOJ?
I found them.
The Frosted Mega Wheats. pic.twitter.com/pgcGYIK10n— Zachary D Long (@invadingduck) December 27, 2020
This came in the mail today. 🤣 pic.twitter.com/PSLr2XXuK8
— Dr. Holly A. Pinheiro, Jr. (aka The Machine) (@PhUsct) December 29, 2020
Waffen-SF? https://t.co/IyjZN2QPb2
— Harry Turtledove (@HNTurtledove) December 30, 2020
Iron Sky? Panzer Grenadier crossing guards?
re: #225 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
Iron Sky? Panzer Grenadier crossing guards?
The Trump Brand isn’t known for original designs.
re: #225 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
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Iron Sky? Panzer Grenadier crossing guards?
More like the vaguely-Slavic “enemy” uniforms from an old episode of Thunderbirds (without the strings, of course)
re: #225 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
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Iron Sky? Panzer Grenadier crossing guards?
That looks like something from Deviant Art as a (bad) joke.
But then, I’ve made my feelings on the Air Farce and the Space Farce known.
re: #225 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
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Iron Sky? Panzer Grenadier crossing guards?
They got no phasers. Ain’t a Space Force without phasers.
re: #225 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
Seems like they’re trying to suppress recruitment.
re: #230 jaunte
Hugo Boss design team? Honest to gawd, have we ever seen previews of designs for any other branch of service uniforms? What is the actual point of this crap?
re: #231 A Mom Anon
Hugo Boss design team? Honest to gawd, have we ever seen previews of designs for any other branch of service uniforms? What is the actual point of this crap?
To make Needy Amin feel powerful and in charge.
re: #225 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
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Iron Sky? Panzer Grenadier crossing guards?
Did Barron design those?
re: #231 A Mom Anon
Hugo Boss design team? Honest to gawd, have we ever seen previews of designs for any other branch of service uniforms? What is the actual point of this crap?
Proposed uniform changes are often dropped on “inside” DoD media to excite comments, which are ignored.
re: #231 A Mom Anon
Hugo Boss design team? Honest to gawd, have we ever seen previews of designs for any other branch of service uniforms? What is the actual point of this crap?
I’m betting that Ivanka had a lot to do with it. Her clothing is horrible.
re: #231 A Mom Anon
Hugo Boss design team? Honest to gawd, have we ever seen previews of designs for any other branch of service uniforms? What is the actual point of this crap?
According to Peter’s Evil Overlord List, #21:
I will hire a talented fashion designer to create original uniforms for my Legions of Terror, as opposed to some cheap knock-offs that make them look like Nazi stormtroopers, Roman footsoldiers, or savage Mongol hordes. All were eventually defeated and I want my troops to have a more positive mind-set.
I seem to remember Pres. Nixon designed some uniforms that became a great laughing stock. Perhaps these are throwbacks!
re: #236 jaunte
Space Force will need an air supply.
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There was an early NASA design much like that—a last ditch bailout life support sphere for a crippled vehicle. Fur Reel.
re: #238 retired cynic
Nixon ordered White House guards to dress in royal-looking uniforms, reversed his decision after they were laughed at, 1970: #AP pic.twitter.com/ioXb59coSW
— Michael Beschloss (@BeschlossDC) July 18, 2018
Well, fuck. Tuesday of last week I did a shift at the local food bank. I just received an email letting me know of potential exposure to covid. One of the staff’s daughter brought it home from college, and the whole family caught the rona. I was rarely within 6 feet of anyone while there, and the space was well ventilated with a number of open doors.
re: #241 Dr. Teddy’s Person
{{{Teddy and Person}}}
I sincerely hope and pray for your health. Keep us up to date.
re: #231 A Mom Anon
Hugo Boss design team? Honest to gawd, have we ever seen previews of designs for any other branch of service uniforms? What is the actual point of this crap?
Any other creaky old geezers one else remember back in Nixon’s Admin when Tricky Dick and his peeps decided the White House Police (?) needed snappier uniforms, and one day rolled them out in some blinged-up comic-opera getup with weird white “Austro-Hungarian-Empire-Railway-Guard” hats? And the public ridicule was so loud and universal (not least from the WHP themselves) that they had to ditch them after a short while and went back to their old uniforms at the first opportunity??
ETA: Damn, slow fingers: didn’t see #240.
Though I remember the hats as white, and the uniform tunics as dark: gotta color-coordinate the old memory….
So Mnuchin is saying checks are going to start going out as soon as tonight. With all the delays and mess with USPS, it still could be weeks til they show up. Not everyone will get direct deposit, we didn’t last time, my son even got a letter with his check signed by President Puffy as Fuck. So I assume we’ll get ours in the mail someday? Maybe?
The Husband bought a Christmas gift for his best friend, a metal door decoration with their last name and est. the year they were married. It has been sitting in Baton Rouge for almost 3 weeks. I ordered some delta 8 thc products (made from hemp and legal for now. They work amazing things on chronic pain) on November 30. Left Colorado Dec 4th. They made it to Atlanta Dec 22, and disappeared again. And try finding an actual phone number or address of the facility where it was last scanned or talk to an actual human. So I am not overly confident that people are going to get those checks quickly at all.
re: #241 Dr. Teddy’s Person
Well, fuck. Tuesday of last week I did a shift at the local food bank. I just received an email letting me know of potential exposure to covid. One of the staff’s daughter brought it home from college, and the whole family caught the rona. I was rarely within 6 feet of anyone while there, and the space was well ventilated with a number of open doors.
Virus is a cold mofo—doesn’t care if you were going about doing good.
re: #241 Dr. Teddy’s Person
Damn it. Keep us posted please. I hope you remain healthy and safe. Big huggles to you and Teddy.
Presented without comment.
Mitch McConnell is the Mitch McConnell of Mitch McConnells. https://t.co/MqE8qDDTcH
— Mike Dunford (@questauthority) December 30, 2020
re: #231 A Mom Anon
Hugo Boss design team? Honest to gawd, have we ever seen previews of designs for any other branch of service uniforms? What is the actual point of this crap?
Boss did the last Olympics uniforms for the US. They were hideous.
re: #230 jaunte
Seems like they’re trying to suppress recruitment.
All apologies to anyone who served in the navy, but as long as those silly dress whites for the enlisted still exist these wouldn’t be the worst imo,
“The only thing that stands between the American people and a $2,000 emergency survival check is 52 Senate Republicans.” pic.twitter.com/i7HDWBQMCv
— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) December 29, 2020
re: #249 danarchy
All white clothing in general is a bad idea. Asking for trouble. I say this as a mom who has had more than one white t shirt or button up destroyed by a little boy toddler person. I got wise rather quickly.
re: #248 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Boss did the last Olympics uniforms for the US. They were hideous.
I lied. That was Ralph Lauren. Like bad Xmas sweaters.
I’ve had Downton Abbey on in the background this afternoon. While reading the email about my potential covid exposure, the episode about the Spanish Flu is playing. [insert ominous music here]
re: #250 jaunte
The only thing that stands between the American people and a $2,000 emergency survival check is 52 Senate Republicans.”
I’d argue it’s just one.
this is quite the split screen. pic.twitter.com/8sUdTYT3cD
— marisa kabas (@MarisaKabas) December 29, 2020
re: #252 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
If my memory serves Boss had his workers forcibly make the Nazi uniforms. Treated women like crap in those factories. He was a Nazi and proud of it.
re: #241 Dr. Teddy’s Person
Damn. I wish you well.
Trump is not allowed to stay there more than 7 days in a row.
He has done so repeatedly.
He did over the winter holidays a year ago with a 16-day stay and in 2017 with a 10-day stay.— S.V. Dáte (@svdate) December 30, 2020
Why? Here’s former lawyer/fixer Michael Cohen’s theory:
“You really think that Donald Trump cares about rules or laws? The second you turn your back on him, he does whatever he wants,” Cohen said. “He’s been violating that agreement since the day he signed it.”— S.V. Dáte (@svdate) December 30, 2020
Instead, Trump’s 2020 financial disclosure statement indicates he is renting all three of them out.
— S.V. Dáte (@svdate) December 30, 2020
re: #256 A Mom Anon
If my memory serves Boss had his workers forcibly make the Nazi uniforms. Treated women like crap in those factories. He was a Nazi and proud of it.
The Hugo Boss apologists around the internet go to great lengths to split hairs. Boss didn’t design Nazi uniforms but only manufactured them (with forced labor provided by the Nazis). In the 1920s, he produced brown shirts for … you guessed it … the Brown Shirts.
It’s time to start arresting these entitled asshats.
And capturing their images and placing them on hospital walls so they are last in line for any treatment. https://t.co/LUJxCCkHC6— Steve Marmel (@Marmel) December 30, 2020
re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth
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People need to start throwing eggs at them. Followed by open bags of flour.
re: #261 stpaulbear
People need to start throwing eggs at them. Followed by open bags of flour.
Add a little corn meal for a nice Southern touch.
re: #225 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
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Iron Sky? Panzer Grenadier crossing guards?
Looks like concept art for Star Trek Mirror Universe Terran Imperial Starfleet Uniforms.
Self-taught what now??? 💀 pic.twitter.com/8JPz0kJ2nd
— ﮼ليلى (@Layla_Elayyan02) December 28, 2020
re: #261 stpaulbear
People need to start throwing eggs at them. Followed by open bags of flour.
Lots of canned goods to throw in the store.
re: #261 stpaulbear
People need to start throwing eggs at them. Followed by open bags of flour.
Butter and flour in order to make them roux the appearance?
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They’d probably say, “Where the fuck is Ohio?” https://t.co/GSNYyzc9BF
— Ace-o-aces (@aceoaces) December 30, 2020
re: #263 Jack Burton
Looks like concept art for Star Trek Mirror Universe Terran Imperial Starfleet Uniforms.
Not even commenting on the color I think the cut of the jacket and a lapels is awful. Probably impossible to keep properly angled with any movement or the uniform not fitting perfectly.
Not to mention a complete departure from the look of the other military branches dress uniform style.
re: #267 Ace-o-aces
Nah. The Founders, and especially Washington, were familiar with where the Ohio Country was.
re: #266 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
I would head to the kitchen equipment and get the largest piece of cast iron I could find and use it against them.
re: #241 Dr. Teddy’s Person
Well, fuck. Tuesday of last week I did a shift at the local food bank. I just received an email letting me know of potential exposure to covid. One of the staff’s daughter brought it home from college, and the whole family caught the rona. I was rarely within 6 feet of anyone while there, and the space was well ventilated with a number of open doors.
Get tested for peace of mind, but if infected you would probably have symptoms by now. Distancing pays in direct health benefits.
re: #272 PhillyPretzel
This piece would be a little bit of overkill.
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There is no such thing as overkill. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.
re: #269 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
Nah. The Founders, and especially Washington, were familiar with where the Ohio Country was.
Northwest Ordinance of 1787. Possibly the single most important legislation in the history of the US, certainly the most important passed by under the Articles of Confederation.
re: #263 Jack Burton
Looks like concept art for Star Trek Mirror Universe Terran Imperial Starfleet Uniforms.
Aw, man, that’s an insult to Paramount. At least their designers create to make a point…
re: #275 William Lewis
Northwest Ordinance of 1787. Possibly the single most important legislation in the history of the US, certainly the most important passed by under the Articles of Confederation.
It certainly set a lot of precedents towards how the government settled and handled public domain land.
re: #261 stpaulbear
People need to start throwing eggs at them. Followed by open bags of flour.
Not wasting good food on them. Better to throw garbage.
re: #278 The Pie Overlord!
We will keep the King Arthur for ourselves and throw the Gold Medal at them.
re: #278 The Pie Overlord!
Garbage Cans. Any size. Heavier the better.
re: #280 A Mom Anon
Garbage Cans. Any size. Heavier the better.
Now wondering if I can heft an empty 55-gallon drum…
re: #280 A Mom Anon
Karo syrup. It’ll stay with them.
re: #281 thedopefishlives
Or you could just put it over one of em, turn it on its side and roll them out into the parking lot.
re: #281 thedopefishlives
Now wondering if I can heft an empty 55-gallon drum…
Do you have a friend in Florida to store it for you after you fill it?
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re: #278 The Pie Overlord!
Not wasting good food on them. Better to throw garbage.
Garbage would be better, but it’s harder to find the ‘garbage’ aisle in a store.
What’s the grocery equivalent of tossing Lego pieces down in front of them as caltrops?
He came in as a gold-leaf obsessed piece of shit, and he goes out the same way.
Trump is more upset about Melania’s interior design choices at Mar a Lago than he is about the 335,000 people who died on his watch. https://t.co/z9fBefkdFI
— Doug Gordon (@dgordon52) December 30, 2020
re: #271 Rightwingconspirator
They opened a drive thru testing site on the campus where I teach right before Christmas. I think I’ll head on over tomorrow, just for peace of mind.
re: #289 Dr. Teddy’s Person
Just today I did an in-home test. My work requires this result before we come back on the 4th. Damn uncomfortable but not painful at all. And so worth it.
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Found this delusion on Parler, so, so much of which is dedicated to the fantasy of Trump as warrior/berserker/assassin/sniper who is going to murder everyone who ever made his believers feel small. pic.twitter.com/HJzcEfYLvy
— Jeff Sharlet (@JeffSharlet) December 29, 2020
re: #290 Rightwingconspirator
Just today I did an in-home test. My work requires this result before we come back on the 4th. Damn uncomfortable but not painful at all. And so worth it.
Minnesota offers free at-home testing and free testing at all state test sites. So far, I’ve been using the CVS pharmacies, which are not state test sites but are still free of charge through my insurance.
re: #290 Rightwingconspirator
My local supermarket will mail a spit test to your home when requested.
re: #291 The Pie Overlord!
Meanwhile “warrior” Trump is throwing a tantrum about Melania’s interior design.
re: #294 jaunte
Meanwhile “warrior” Trump is throwing a tantrum about Melania’s interior design.
Probably did not have enough glitter & nude cupids.
re: #294 jaunte
Do I hear the “d” word out of Florida?
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That would include deleting Trump’s account because Twitter would be liable for his lies. https://t.co/9SH2eX8fX0
— Teri Kanefield (@Teri_Kanefield) December 30, 2020
re: #293 PhillyPretzel
My local supermarket will mail a spit test to your home when requested.
I want the spit test instead next time. Eye watering experience for sure.
I try not to think about it too much because it’s enraging, but too many disaster capitalists in this pandemic, many of them enabled by friends in the White House. https://t.co/BqS5ClvfMK
— Schooley (@Rschooley) December 30, 2020
Track them down.
re: #299 jaunte
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Track them down.
Oh right. Put in a “businessman” to run things. ////
So, does this count as herd immunity?
Nearly every inmate in Alaska’s largest prison has now had COVID-19, officials say
re: #291 The Pie Overlord!
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That’s an ill person. Dangerously ill. Like the Las Vegas shooter and the Nashville bomber. May we get through New years and the inauguration without a bang or boom.
re: #300 Rightwingconspirator
Yeah, I love how they tried justifying appointment of DeJoy at usps as a “supply chain expert who understands what it takes to keep things moving”. No he was a CEO with no hands on experience like the rest of the assholes Trump put into important positions through the entire federal government. CEOs don’t do shit, they are extremely far removed from actual work. I am tired of this garbage.
re: #303 A Mom Anon
Yeah, I love how they tried justifying appointment of DeJoy at usps as a “supply chain expert who understands what it takes to keep things moving”. No he was a CEO with no hands on experience like the rest of the assholes Trump put into important positions through the entire federal government. CEOs don’t do shit, they are extremely far removed from actual work. I am tired of this garbage.
DeJoy, in retrospect, was hired explicitly as a hatchet man whose sole purpose was to completely destroy mail-in voting in advance of the November elections. That he failed to do so is only thanks to the courageous and strenuous efforts of federal judges and the Trump administration’s own massive incompetence.
re: #304 thedopefishlives
DeJoy, in retrospect, was hired explicitly as a hatchet man whose sole purpose was to completely destroy mail-in voting in advance of the November elections. That he failed to do so is only thanks to the courageous and strenuous efforts of federal judges and the Trump administration’s own massive incompetence.
And said hatcheting would be for DeJoy’s future profit as a privatized source for handling mail.
re: #268 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
Not even commenting on the color I think the cut of the jacket and a lapels is awful. Probably impossible to keep properly angled with any movement or the uniform not fitting perfectly.
Not to mention a complete departure from the look of the other military branches dress uniform style.
Well hopefully, if Biden does the right thing. The Space Force will be rolled back into the Air Force really quick. Then maybe the DOD can have an honest discussion about whether or not the tactical parts of the Air Force should be rolled back into the Army. That is the only change worth being on the table (other than perhaps reining in the Marines back to their traditional role, rather than do everything under the sun).
re: #304 thedopefishlives
DeJoy, in retrospect, was hired explicitly as a hatchet man whose sole purpose was to completely destroy mail-in voting in advance of the November elections. That he failed to do so is only thanks to the courageous and strenuous efforts of federal judges and the Trump administration’s own massive incompetence.
We’re still stuck with him…how are we getting rid of this thug?
re: #306 Jack Burton
Well hopefully, if Biden does the right thing. The Space Force will be rolled back into the Air Force really quick. Then maybe the DOD can have an honest discussion about whether or not the tactical parts of the Air Force should be rolled back into the Army. That is the only change worth being on the table (other than perhaps reining in the Marines back to their traditional role, rather than do everything under the sun).
Turn the Strategic mission over to the Navy and admitting that the Air Farce experiment failed would be good as well.
re: #307 gwangung
We’re still stuck with him…how are we getting rid of this thug?
Next Attorney General after investigating Dejoy: “I’m gonna make you an offer you can’t refuse.”
re: #307 gwangung
We’re still stuck with him…how are we getting rid of this thug?
Put him in prison.
re: #307 gwangung
We’re still stuck with him…how are we getting rid of this thug?
Have him spend more time in congressional hearings than in his office. Subpoena him for every decision he makes - he’ll burn out on that quick.
Don’t fund his office - specifically change the pay grade of Postmaster General to “volunteer”
Lots of other legal ways to harrass him into resigning.
re: #261 stpaulbear
People need to start throwing eggs at them. Followed by open bags of flour.
Nope. Cans of tuna or tomato paste are what I will use if I ever meet up with these ruffians. I can launch at least 60 a minute if resupplied.
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