Right Wing Hatebloggers Falling Like Flies: The Pamela Geller Edition

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Yesterday it was Jim Hoft, today it’s anti-Muslim fanatic Pamela Geller’s turn to be permanently suspended from Twitter.

They survived for years on Twitter, getting verified badges while spreading hatred, bigotry, and conspiracy theories, but when they signed on to promote Donald Trump and the GOP’s Big Lie about the 2020 election, Twitter brought the hammer down. It wasn’t all that other stuff, it was helping Trump try to steal the election.

One has to wonder if all this Twitter housecleaning was prompted by the voting machine lawsuits.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 7, 2021 • 5:38:15pm

“The Muslims made me an ugly drunk.”

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2021 • 5:38:32pm
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plansbandc  Feb 7, 2021 • 5:39:20pm

Hate doesn’t do anything good for your face. See pretty much any Republican…

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2021 • 5:43:40pm

re: #3 plansbandc

Hate doesn’t do anything good for your face. See pretty much any Republican…

Not to mention what it does to your brain.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 7, 2021 • 5:43:58pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Not to mention what it does to your brain.

There, but for the grace of God, go I.

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Targetpractice  Feb 7, 2021 • 5:44:04pm
One has to wonder if all this Twitter housecleaning was prompted by the voting machine lawsuits.

Entirely. Jack is totally cool with fascists until they start threatening the money flow. That totally harshes his mellow.

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b.d. (America is Great Again)  Feb 7, 2021 • 5:45:53pm

I can imagine it going something like this:

Jim Hoft: YOU CAN’T BAN ME! LOOK AT ALL THE STUFF PAMELA GELLER & ALLYN ROOT POST AND YOU LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT!!

Twitter: Thanks!

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No Malarkey!  Feb 7, 2021 • 5:46:15pm

The timing of all these conservatives being canceled within days of Fox being sued for billions doesn’t seem coincidental. We are all Dobbs/Hoft/Geller now!//

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Feb 7, 2021 • 5:50:58pm

re: #8 No Malarkey!

It’s a late pandemic miracle.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 7, 2021 • 5:51:48pm

They came for Lou Dobbs, and I said nothing because fuck that guy. Then they came for Jim Hoft, and I said nothing, because he is the SMOTI. and they came for the Rage Furby, and I said about damn time, that’s his 26th sock puppet. And they came for Pam Geller, and I shrugged.

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EstebanTornado1963  Feb 7, 2021 • 5:51:54pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2021 • 5:53:35pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 7, 2021 • 5:53:47pm

So apparently Mike Myers and Dana Carvey have empty bank accounts. Because that’s the only way I can explain that Ubereats commercial.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 7, 2021 • 5:54:27pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 7, 2021 • 5:57:17pm

re: #14 Amory Blaine

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You really can hear the “DON’T THEY KNOW WHO I AM?!” tone in Johnson’s tweet.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Feb 7, 2021 • 5:58:42pm

I catch up on the super bowl stuff mostly after it happens. I do watch the half time live, well it’s super bowl half time!!! I loved Weeknd. Motown today.

BUT BUT this is what I missed live, but thank you Twitter.

This

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 7, 2021 • 5:59:29pm

TD Brady.

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danarchy  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:02:11pm

re: #16 HRH Stanley Sea

I catch up on the super bowl stuff mostly after it happens. I do watch the half time live, well it’s super bowl half time!!! I loved Weeknd. Motown today.

BUT BUT this is what I missed live, but thank you Twitter.

This

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How I know I am getting old. I literally never heard of anyone performing at the super bowl this year.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:04:31pm

Several Capitol police officers and family of Brian Sicknick at SB tonight.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:04:51pm

re: #18 danarchy

How I know I am getting old. I literally never heard of anyone performing at the super bowl this year.

If they haven’t recorded their music by 30 years ago, I haven’t heard it.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:05:01pm

re: #18 danarchy

How I know I am getting old. I literally never heard of anyone performing at the super bowl this year.

!!!

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Targetpractice  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:05:40pm

KC falling apart.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:05:53pm

Another holding call on KC.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:06:05pm
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HRH Stanley Sea  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:06:18pm

We gotta grow…..roll with the changes.

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Targetpractice  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:07:46pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

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It’s amazing what the fear of being bankrupted by a defamation lawsuit can do to one’s priorities.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:08:06pm

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:09:37pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:10:39pm

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Targetpractice  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:11:00pm

For all the talk about how KC does well when they’re down by double digits at the half, I don’t think most of those stats assume you’re playing against Tom Brady and the refs.

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danarchy  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:11:29pm

re: #26 Targetpractice

It’s amazing what the fear of being bankrupted by a defamation lawsuit can do to one’s priorities.

Twitter isn’t afraid of defamation. The law says they aren’t a publisher and aren’t liable for what their users post. They may be afraid of losing that protection, but they aren’t afraid of being sued by dominion.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:11:34pm

BTW, I’m back to Firefly Lane.

Tis Great.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:11:38pm

re: #26 Targetpractice

It’s amazing what the fear of being bankrupted by a defamation lawsuit can do to one’s priorities.

I wonder if OANN ran Lindell’s movie because they figured they were already on the hook for election lies, so they might as well cash Lindell’s check.

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:12:39pm

I don’t like Brady, but I wonder if we’re going to find out that Belichick was holding him back.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:13:27pm

CL’d

re: #75 Barefoot Grin

Here’s a YouTube history channel you might find interesting. He’s doing a series on the naval battles of Guadalcanal at the moment.

Drachnifel

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:14:00pm

re: #31 danarchy

Twitter isn’t afraid of defamation. The law says they aren’t a publisher and aren’t liable for what their users post. They may be afraid of losing that protection, but they aren’t afraid of being sued by dominion.

I think what me might actually be seeing is that they were truly afraid of Trump winning a second term.

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:15:57pm
I made the brilliant decision to take a trip to the grocery at about six pm this evening, and it was fabulous. There was NO ONE there except me and the clerks. I strolled leisurely through the aisles, sometimes even walking against the grain of the new arrows on the floor telling you which direction to go. I took my time in the produce section. I read labels. I didn’t have to wait for anyone standing in the middle of the aisle obliviously talking on the cell phone. There was no one walking around without a mask on invading my space. It was fucking beautiful.

balloon-juice.com

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:17:06pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

The whole right wing was terrified of a hell-storm of payback and accountability if Trump lost. They were desperate enough that they sent their Expendables to storm the Capitol. Their fears are coming to pass and this is only the beginning.

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🌹UOJB!  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:18:54pm

Gee I wonder who gets booted next from Twitter?

Candace Owens?
Dinesh D’Souza?
Ron Johnson?
Ted Cruz?
Mike Lee?
Hee Hawley?
OANN?
Newsmax?

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plansbandc  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:19:53pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Less hate always makes things better.

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dat_said  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:20:48pm

It’s bothering me. Every time they put up the SB logo with the Roman numerals for 55 split by the Lombardi trophy I see a 54.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:21:26pm

re: #41 dat_said

It’s bothering me. Every time they put up the SB logo with the Roman numerals for 55 split by the Lombardi trophy I see a 54.

OK, good, so it’s not just me. I actually, honestly thought this year was Super Bowl 54 because of it.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:22:24pm

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

The whole right wing was terrified of a hell-storm of payback and accountability if Trump lost. They were desperate enough that they sent their Expendables to storm the Capitol. Their fears are coming to pass and this is only the beginning.

Corporate America can tell which way the wind is blowing. Some of them probably have detailed knowledge that law enforcement is still only vaguely aware of. They are getting an early start on placing themselves on what will unambiguously be the right side.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:24:39pm

re: #42 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

OK, good, so it’s not just me. I actually, honestly thought this year was Super Bowl 54 because of it.

Me too! Of course, I am continuing my Super Bowl tradition. Like the previous 54 games, I am not watching this one either.

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Jay C  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:28:12pm

re: #42 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

OK, good, so it’s not just me. I actually, honestly thought this year was Super Bowl 54 because of it.

Thanks. I was thinking that same thing.
Not that I keep a careful count of SBs, anyway…

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Dave In Austin  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:29:29pm

re: #11 EstebanTornado1963

I see Amy Schumer is schlepping Mayo now. Oh how they fall.

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Targetpractice  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:29:53pm

re: #31 danarchy

Twitter isn’t afraid of defamation. The law says they aren’t a publisher and aren’t liable for what their users post. They may be afraid of losing that protection, but they aren’t afraid of being sued by dominion.

Fair point. And I think that’s more their worry: The sudden bipartisan muttering that there might need to be a review of those protections, in light of Twitter and Facebook maintaining virtual monopolies, seems to have at least Jack a bit nervous.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:30:35pm
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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:30:59pm

re: #45 Jay C

Thanks. I was thinking that same thing.
Not that I keep a careful count of SBs, anyway…

I followed football for a few years when I was in college and all of my college buddies were die-hard Colts fans. Those were the futile years, when said Colts got repeatedly bitch-slapped by Brady’s cheating Patriots before they could even make it to a Superb Owl. However, the worst one to watch was the infamous game when the Colts appeared to have it won against the Steelers, except for Ben Fucking Roethlisberger getting up off the ground after being hit (throwing an interception) to tackle the runner and end the game.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:31:08pm

re: #46 Dave In Austin

I see Amy Schumer is schlepping Mayo now. Oh how they fall.

They might have offered her a shit ton of money to do it. Hell, I’ll hock Mayo if the price is right.

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Targetpractice  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:33:41pm

Apparently the dearth of movie trailers this year has forced CBS to replay trailers for Clarice series every commercial break.

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🌹UOJB!  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:34:09pm

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:34:36pm

re: #52 🌹UOJB!

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What a marijuana overdose looks like.

//

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:34:50pm

re: #50 Eclectic Cyborg

They might have offered her a shit ton of money to do it. Hell, I’ll hock Mayo if the price is right.

I’d hock mayo if the price was just ok. 😂

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dat_said  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:36:02pm

re: #18 danarchy

How I know I am getting old. I literally never heard of anyone performing at the super bowl this year.

You only start getting old when you no longer recognize the celebrities in the commercials.

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:37:43pm

re: #46 Dave In Austin

I see Amy Schumer is schlepping Mayo now. Oh how they fall.

The end of the commercial made me laugh:

Guy: What else can you do?
Amy: Absolutely nothing.

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stpaulbear  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:37:43pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

It’s not a proper “ball”.

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A Cranky One  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:43:40pm

Sound on.

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William Lewis  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:45:44pm

re: #29 Eclectic Cyborg

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Amazing what you can accomplish when then NFL decides they want you to be the one that wins…

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plansbandc  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:47:29pm

re: #40 plansbandc

I should qualify it to say less irrational hate. I think my hate for Needy Amin is entirely rational. But I may have had too many adult beverages.

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plansbandc  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:48:30pm

re: #58 A Cranky One

My eight pound dog can clear the room with a fart. They are always SBD though.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:48:31pm

re: #60 plansbandc

I should qualify it to say less irrational hate. I think my hate for Needy Amin is entirely rational. But I may have had too many adult beverages.

Slainté.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:49:06pm

hi

Regarding the topic of this thread (hatemongers finally being banned), it might also be related to this (long read):

War on Section 230 begins in earnest as Dem senators look to limit legal immunity for social networks, websites etc (The Register)

US Senators Mark Warner (D-VA), Mazie Hirono (D-HI), and Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) on Friday introduced draft legislation to limit the legal protections available to social networks, websites, and anything else that provides an “interactive computer service.”

The three politicians proposed a bill they’re calling the SAFE TECH Act [PDF, five pages], which narrows the liability protection afforded to organizations by Section 230 of the US Communications Decency Act. Its full title gives a sense of the wrongs it aims to right: The Safeguarding Against Fraud, Exploitation, Threats, Extremism, and Consumer Harms Act.

From The Register:

The bill proposes to clarify where Section 230 immunity does not apply. It seeks to remove platform protection for:

Ads and other paid content, so platforms can’t profit from unlawful or harmful services.
Civil rights law and antitrust law violation claims.
Harassment/cyberstalking claims related to protected classes (e.g. sex, race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, etc).
Wrongful death claims.
Alien Tort Claims Act claims (e.g. allowing survivors of the Rohingya genocide to sue Facebook).

(more at the link)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:50:11pm

Some idiot fan just ran on to the field.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:50:52pm

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

More …

The bill does not necessarily make online services automatically liable in such cases but it would allow a judge to determine whether claims cited in the bill could go forward without being summarily dismissed.

“For years, Section 230 provided a ‘Get Out of Jail Free’ card to platform companies as their sites are openly and repeatedly used by bad actors to cause damage and injury,” said Warner via Twitter. “Section 230 will be brought into the present-day with the SAFE TECH Act creating targeted exceptions.”

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Targetpractice  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:51:33pm

re: #64 Eclectic Cyborg

Some idiot fan just ran on to the field.

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jaunte  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:53:05pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:53:20pm

THIS SUPER BOWL GAME IS RIGGED!

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:53:44pm

re: #68 The Pie Overlord!

THIS SUPER BOWL GAME IS RIGGED!

Still a more plausible conspiracy theory than the Big Lie.

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Targetpractice  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:54:07pm

re: #68 The Pie Overlord!

THIS SUPER BOWL GAME IS RIGGED!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:54:27pm

re: #64 Eclectic Cyborg

Some idiot fan just ran on to the field.

Leave him on the field, give him a spear, and release some lions, maybe a couple of grizzlies just to be sure. The crowd would go wild.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:54:46pm

re: #71 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Leave him on the field, give him a spear, and release some lions, maybe a couple of grizzlies just to be sure. The crowd would go wild.

Bread and circuses!

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plansbandc  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:55:09pm

re: #64 Eclectic Cyborg

Streaker at the Covid Bowl.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:55:30pm

Another Gender Reveal Fail:

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Dave In Austin  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:56:59pm

I just found an app called Da vinci Eye that’s a Kick. It’s a drawing, tracing app. This will be great for metal arts. davincieyeapp.com

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Targetpractice  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:58:09pm

Oh look, another CBS “reality show” that we’ll learn in 6-9 months was totally scripted.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:59:04pm

Bring back the Creamsicle dude with the dagger in his mouth

Re: Brady. Like they said in “Man who Shot Liberty Valance”, print the legend

The Covid19 masks have robbed me of the simple pleasures of repeatedly watching Andy Reid mumbling into a laminated sheet

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 7, 2021 • 6:59:28pm

re: #2 Belafon

Judd Legum, arguing against free speech rights of Presidential children.

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William Lewis  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:00:28pm

The Clash - The Magnificent Seven (Official Video)

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No Malarkey!  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:02:39pm
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Belafon  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:03:29pm

re: #74 The Pie Overlord!

Another Gender Reveal Fail:

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That was part of the m&m commercial:

M&M’S Super Bowl Commercial 2021 Dan Levy Come Together

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:04:18pm

Well, the weather here is going to be both cold and crap.

forecast.weather.gov

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:05:45pm

re: #25 HRH Stanley Sea

We gotta grow…..roll with the changes.

REO Speedwagon - Roll With the Changes (live 1981)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:11:00pm

TB with an interception. Brady wins #7. 31-9.

The Buccaneers prove you CAN buy a championship.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:11:29pm

re: #84 Eclectic Cyborg

TB with an interception. Brady wins #7. 31-9.

The Buccaneers prove you CAN buy a championship.

If you pay off the judges…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:12:58pm

This is also the second sports championship for Tampa Bay in 6 months (Lightning won Stanley Cup)

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:14:12pm
Click to Reveal

The Lions are the only NFL team that has NEVER PLAYED in a Super Bowl!

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sizzzzlerz  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:14:54pm

re: #71 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Leave him on the field, give him a spear, and release some lions, maybe a couple of grizzlies just to be sure. The crowd would go wild.

Just declare him to be fair game for the players. Give the one who knocks him down a new Mercedes or a Ferrari or a couple of dozen heavy gold necklace chains or free tats for life. That whole concussion protocol thing, it’s off the table. Spear him with your helmet, if it helps.

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jaunte  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:15:32pm
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sizzzzlerz  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:16:12pm

re: #86 Eclectic Cyborg

This is also the second sports championship for Tampa Bay in 6 months (Lightning won Stanley Cup)

Those guys will be bragging they have the best damn uniforms in the world.

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William Lewis  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:16:49pm

re: #83 Barefoot Grin

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Video

My sister was (may still be for all I know) a big REO fan in high school.

I always preferred Styx and Boston for the stuff you’d hear on the radio (unlike the Clash or Husker Du or - before they became big - U2).

Styx - Come Sail Away - 1/28/1978 - Winterland

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:17:24pm

From the last thread, about Candace Owens saying she might run for President. Stand by for the conservagrift.

re: #103 Targetpractice

Candace Owens can’t take the office. She will not be thirty-five until April 29, 2025.

Perhaps she should go back and read the Constitutional requirements for office.

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:18:10pm

The Falcon and Winter Soldier trailer:

THE FALCON AND THE WINTER SOLDIER Trailer (2021)

And I like this summary in the comments: “These 2 have the chemistry of brothers trying to successfully run their fathers business after he retired.”

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🌹UOJB!  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:18:36pm

re: #92 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

From the last thread, about Candace Owens saying she might run for President. Stand by for the conservagrift.

Candace Owens can’t take the office. She will not be thirty-five until April 29, 2025.

Perhaps she should go back and read the Constitutional requirements for office.

Ah but Hitler Lover Candace is like everyone else in the QAP! The Constitution doesn’t apply to them!

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Targetpractice  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:19:59pm

re: #92 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

From the last thread, about Candace Owens saying she might run for President. Stand by for the conservagrift.

Candace Owens can’t take the office. She will not be thirty-five until April 29, 2025.

Perhaps she should go back and read the Constitutional requirements for office.

I don’t think anything we’ve seen so far leaves one with the impression that Candace is overly burdened with genius.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:20:50pm

re: #114 Romantic Heretic

In short, acting just the way Marx said capitalists act.

I wonder why they hate Marx so much when he described them so accurately.

For the same reason racists hate being called racists. Greedy people hate being called greedy.

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danarchy  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:24:05pm

re: #92 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

From the last thread, about Candace Owens saying she might run for President. Stand by for the conservagrift.

Candace Owens can’t take the office. She will not be thirty-five until April 29, 2025.

Perhaps she should go back and read the Constitutional requirements for office.

By my math she turns 35 about 8 months before the election

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Broad With Sass  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:27:31pm

re: #91 William Lewis

The Styx “Mr Roboto” tour will always remain in my best of concerts

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:28:40pm

re: #95 Targetpractice

I don’t think anything we’ve seen so far leaves one with the impression that Candace is overly burdened with genius.

Well, every dime she grifts off a conservative voter is a dime which cannot go to a qualified candidate.

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jaunte  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:30:05pm
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HRH Stanley Sea  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:30:15pm

re: #83 Barefoot Grin

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You got it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:30:39pm

Brady gets MVP again.

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🌹UOJB!  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:34:21pm
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🌹UOJB!  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:37:19pm
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jaunte  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:38:35pm

re: #104 🌹UOJB!

A map of bad choices.

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danarchy  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:42:08pm

I just gotta say, I am not buying Queen Latifah as some sort of special forces badass in this new show.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:44:41pm

In regional news, folks are suing.

Cheyenne resident sues county, deputies over stun gun incident (Cheyenne Wyoming Tribune-Eagle)

CHEYENNE - A local man is suing two Laramie County Sheriff’s deputies for their actions during a January 2020 welfare check that ended in the man and his mother being stunned and arrested.

In the civil suit, Devin Bryant of Cheyenne alleges that Deputies Jason Gillott and Ryan Lee violated his Fourth Amendment rights and acted negligently when they “violently ripped Mr. Bryant out of his home and stunned Mr. Bryant and his mother without legal justification.” Gillott and Lee had been prompted to check on Bryant after his estranged wife called the department about an email Bryant sent saying he had cut himself.

(more)

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No Malarkey!  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:45:33pm

re: #104 🌹UOJB!

Kristie Alley? Not Chaci?

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William Lewis  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:46:08pm

re: #106 danarchy

I just gotta say, I am not buying Queen Latifah as some sort of special forces badass in this new show.

I can think of several women who could pull it off (Jessica Alba, Sigourney Weaver, Kate Mulgrew & more) but nope, not her. Pity, the concept is interesting.

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mmmirele  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:49:12pm

re: #104 🌹UOJB!

There are some Aum Shinrikyo experts who are concerned about Japanese involvement in QAnon because it reminds them of how people coalesced around Shoko Asahara. They’re keeping a close eye on things. I was about to say that they’re missing a flesh and blood leader, but the reality is they have a leader—Donald Trump. But it’s unclear what he’s up to, if he plans to start another political party or what.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:51:35pm

re: #110 mmmirele

There are some Aum Shinrikyo experts who are concerned about Japanese involvement in QAnon because it reminds them of how people coalesced around Shoko Asahara. They’re keeping a close eye on things. I was about to say that they’re missing a flesh and blood leader, but the reality is they have a leader—Donald Trump. But it’s unclear what he’s up to, if he plans to start another political party or what.

Starting a party is hard work, Trump is lazy, and he already owns the GOP.

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mmmirele  Feb 7, 2021 • 7:57:14pm

re: #111 No Malarkey!

Starting a party is hard work, Trump is lazy, and he already owns the GOP.

This is true, but we really need to keep an eye on him, and on the worldwide activities of QAnon.

QAnon Is Alive and Well in Japan
The conspiracy theory’s rise in Japan has disturbing parallels with Aum Shinrikyo, the cult behind the 1995 sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway.

thediplomat.com

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Scout  Feb 7, 2021 • 8:03:40pm

re: #110 mmmirele

There are some Aum Shinrikyo experts who are concerned about Japanese involvement in QAnon because it reminds them of how people coalesced around Shoko Asahara. They’re keeping a close eye on things. I was about to say that they’re missing a flesh and blood leader, but the reality is they have a leader—Donald Trump. But it’s unclear what he’s up to, if he plans to start another political party or what.

Fascinating! Links, please!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 7, 2021 • 8:10:16pm

I need some votes people.

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mmmirele  Feb 7, 2021 • 8:11:35pm

re: #113 Scout

Fascinating! Links, please!

Nikkei Asia

US must not underestimate the risks of the Trump cult
Japan’s experiences offers a bitter lesson for America

asia.nikkei.com

Worst Year Ever podcast (August 2020)
The Sad, Dangerous, and Predictable State of Qanon with Aum expert Sarah Hightower

stitcher.com

There’s more out there, and no doubt more to come as it becomes clear what Trump plans to do. As No Malarkey! said, Trump is *lazy*. That said, keep an eye on his trial, that could have an impact on what he does next.

FTR, I think most of the GOP are either Trump/QAnon cultists or generally afraid to speak out. *rolls eyes*

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Scout  Feb 7, 2021 • 8:17:07pm

re: #115 mmmirele

Thanks. I happen to know Ms. Egawa socially. I don’t think that particular article is saying there’s a connection between Aum and Qanon, just that there are parallels. But then maybe I missed the point of your earlier comment.

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Targetpractice  Feb 7, 2021 • 8:19:12pm

Ouch.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 7, 2021 • 8:23:50pm

Rudy fucked around & now he is finding out.

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Targetpractice  Feb 7, 2021 • 8:30:52pm

re: #118 The Pie Overlord!

Rudy fucked around & now he is finding out.

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2021 • 8:39:40pm

I want to make sure I’m up to speed for tomorrow. What do we know about Pelosi and the metal detectors?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Feb 7, 2021 • 8:41:44pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Feb 7, 2021 • 8:42:06pm

re: #121 Belafon

I want to make sure I’m up to speed for tomorrow. What do we know about Pelosi and the metal detectors?

Republicans lie.

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Targetpractice  Feb 7, 2021 • 8:47:12pm

re: #122 Dread Pirate Ron

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Does anybody want to point out to Glenn how much time he’s spent lounging around Faux in general and Tucker Carlson’s White Power Hour in particular, whining about “cancel culture” after throwing a ginormous tantrum while quitting The Intercept because the editors *gasp!* tried to edit his work?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 7, 2021 • 8:56:25pm

re: #116 Scout

Japanese society is quite different than American society in several ways. Thus, while there could be parallels between Aum and Trumpism (as now grafted with Qanon), I think the method of taking root in a society is different between the two.

Here in the US, Trumpism as a cult is made possible by fundamentalist Christianity, a factory for turning out cults. While in Japan the central factor in cults arise from the oppressive nature of Japanese society in which people can greatly struggle with finding individuality in a society that expects conformity.

We are suffering from having a major political party now captive to cultic right-wing groups. This gives power to the fringe elements of society, as they feel empowered.

This is why we have to persevere and make sure the GOP pays at the ballot box. Only successive defeats in national and local elections will kill this beast.

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TedStriker  Feb 7, 2021 • 8:56:47pm

re: #124 Targetpractice

Does anybody want to point out to Glenn how much time he’s spent lounging around Faux in general and Tucker Carlson’s White Power Hour in particular, whining about “cancel culture” after throwing a ginormous tantrum while quitting The Intercept because the editors *gasp!* tried to edit his work?

Wait, wasn’t The Intercept Glenn’s baby (after getting Pierre Omidyar to pay for it)?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 7, 2021 • 8:58:15pm

re: #126 TedStriker

Wait, wasn’t The Intercept Glenn’s baby?

Yes, he was one of its creators.

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TedStriker  Feb 7, 2021 • 8:59:33pm

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes, he was one of its creators.

I didn’t realize that Poitras wasn’t there anymore either:

On November 30, 2020, Laura Poitras, one of the founding editors of the Intercept, left the company. She said she was fired in relation to the Reality Winner controversy.[39][40]

en.wikipedia.org

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Targetpractice  Feb 7, 2021 • 9:01:12pm

re: #126 TedStriker

Wait, wasn’t The Intercept Glenn’s baby?

It was, but he thought he had an iron-clad “no editing of my screeds” agreement as part of his employment contract…and the editors disagreed. So he did what all drama queens do: He doused his career in petrol, struck a match on his way out the door, and declared it was their fault for letting him do that.

Now when the subject comes up, he plays the victim of his own decision, screaming that it was “censorship” on the part of the editors to tell him not to publish one prolonged vowel movement about how the rest of the media was in Joe Biden’s pocket.

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TedStriker  Feb 7, 2021 • 9:02:30pm

re: #129 Targetpractice

It was, but he thought he had an iron-clad “no editing of my screeds” agreement as part of his employment contract…and the editors disagreed. So he did what all drama queens do: He doused his career in petrol, struck a match on his way out the door, and declared it was their fault for letting him do that.

Now when the subject comes up, he plays the victim of his own decision, screaming that it was “censorship” on the part of the editors to tell him not to publish one prolonged vowel movement about how the rest of the media was in Joe Biden’s pocket.

I’m so stealing that…

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 7, 2021 • 9:07:15pm

re: #129 Targetpractice

It was, but he thought he had an iron-clad “no editing of my screeds” agreement as part of his employment contract…and the editors disagreed. So he did what all drama queens do: He doused his career in petrol, struck a match on his way out the door, and declared it was their fault for letting him do that.

Now when the subject comes up, he plays the victim of his own decision, screaming that it was “censorship” on the part of the editors to tell him not to publish one prolonged vowel movement about how the rest of the media was in Joe Biden’s pocket.

Now that Glenn is no longer associated with The Intercept, I’m willing to treat the publication seriously.

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TedStriker  Feb 7, 2021 • 9:08:02pm

re: #131 Hecuba’s daughter

Now that Glenn is no longer associated with The Intercept, I’m willing to treat the publication seriously.

Well, Jeremy Scahill’s still there and Pierre Omidyar still owns it, so there’s that…

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2021 • 9:15:17pm

re: #123 Dread Pirate Ron

Republicans lie.

I can’t give that as an answer to the Republicans at work who try to bring it up.

Edit: in the sense that I need proof in this case.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Feb 7, 2021 • 9:17:21pm

There was a response from the capitol police they have no incident report of it happening.

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vgranucci  Feb 7, 2021 • 9:18:38pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 7, 2021 • 10:22:25pm

re: #97 danarchy

By my math she turns 35 about 8 months before the election

You are correct; I can’t add apparently.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 7, 2021 • 10:26:36pm

[moved by me]

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austin_blue  Feb 7, 2021 • 10:28:56pm

Some folks were talking about fracking and quakes a couple of threads down based on a 3.3 SE of San Antonio near Smiley, TX. Okay, here’s a Geologist talking. This is really long.

Yes, there’s a relationship, between fracking and quakes, but not what you might think. Fracking uses a Devil’s brew of specialized fluids to fracture big thick layers of black shales and release oil, condensate (white gas), and natural gas from those source rocks. Those hydrocarbons normally take hundreds of years to move a foot or two in the shales and migrate to a more transmissive rock like sandstone or karst limestone, which are traditional hydrocarbon traps, or reservoirs, in traditional, pre-fracking oil and gas production. The hydrocarbons did not start in those reservoirs, they migrated there over millennia from the black shales.

Fracking fluids are tailored to the source rock, but generically contain water, propants (like sand, which hold open the shale after it’s been shattered) and surfactants (think Dawn dishwashing detergent) to help allow hydrocarbons to move to the well bore and up to the surface. There’s also a bunch of other crap that can include strong acids or bases.

Now each well is fracked with 2-3 million gallons of that liquid, which sounds like a lot, but really isn’t, relatively speaking. After the black shale is fracked, those fracking liquids are returned to the surface by reverse hydrostatic pressure (that oil and gas wants to get the hell out of that formation now that it can).

Some Important background:

In the past, the vast majority of oil and gas wells were vertical, which is why porous/transmissive rocks like sandstone and karst limestone were the reservoir targets. So if a reservoir was 50’ thick, you could make good money by sucking out of that reservoir because the porosity and transmissivity of the rock allowed you pull everything within a 1/2 mile radius to the well bore. When you drilled vertically through black shale source rock, which may 500-800 feet thick, you’re radius of influence may be only 5 feet. Not viable economically.

But everyone came to realize that the vast majority of hydrocarbons were still locked in the black shales- the source rock. They were still migrating into the reservoirs at the same glacial pace, but you could not extract it economically.

Then came offshore drilling. The first offshore wells were in shallow water and drilled by drill barges, which float out into the swamps and just offshore, drill away, and, if they hit good reservoirs, would leave a pressure protected assembly at the site until a production sleeve could be built around it with oil/gas separators, crew quarters, pipeline tie-ins to get the product back to land, &c. But the farther off shore you got, the deeper the water got, and the more expensive it became to build those individual production sleeves. One well per sleeve had an economic depth limit.

So they built jack-up rigs, which had legs you could extend down to the bottom and raise the rig out of the water. You could use those rigs in water up to 700 feet deep.

And they built semi-submersible rigs and drill ships, where you can drill to depths of 12,000’.

Now, if you found a really good oil field in water over 100’ deep, you could put a really BIG production sleeve at the bottom of the ocean. But you needed some way to space out a bunch of wells from the top of that sleeve or you would be getting in the way of that first well.

So you would drill 12, 18, 24, 36, whatever number of wells you needed to make it work economically, and you would do it by drilling directional wells. These used new subsurface navigational tech to kick wells off of the vertical in precisely placed paths so that the 1/2 mile radius of influence could be maximized for each individual well drilled from a single platform. This made offshore drilling a real moneymaker.

So, to end the background lesson, someone said, “Hey, wait, how close to the horizontal can I get with one of these downhole directional assemblies before I start chewing the bore hole to pieces?” The answer was around 5-40 degrees, depending on what you were drilling through. The harder the rock, the lower the angle.

“So if the rock was hard, like a black shale source rock, instead of drilling through 500’ of it 90 degrees, I could drill through 9,000’ of it at 5 degrees?”

“Yeah, but with a 5’ radius of influence you’d still get squat for production.”

“What if I used a hydraulic hammer to bust that rock to fine gravel and increased my radius of influence to 200’ and used sand and surfactants to keep it broken and flowing?”

And Lo! Fracking was born.

Now, as I said above, after the well is fracked, 2 to 3 million gallons of fracking fluid is pushed back up to the surface by downhole pressure. That’s 250 to 375 tanker trucks at 8,000 gallons a pop. But that fluid can’t be economically recycled because there’s so much shit in it. So it has to be handled as Haz Waste.

What to do with it? Let’s drill a real deep injection well into an unusable salt water formation and pump it down there! Which would be OK, if it was accepting frack fluid waste from just a few wells. But they aren’t. They often have open permits which say you can take X, Y, and Z type wastes at whatever your pumps can handle.

Remember that radius of influence that an oil well has to extract fluids? Injection wells also have radiuses of influence, and they are filling that saltwater bearing reservoir with additional fluids under pressure. If the system is really transmissive and really, really deep, it probably isn’t a problem. But if it isn’t, or if you are disposing billions of gallons of frack water from thousands of wells, eventually you are going to have a rupture, which will look just like a 3.3 earthquake on the Richter scale.

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CleverToad  Feb 8, 2021 • 6:28:37am

re: #138 austin_blue

Thank you, the explanation is appreciated!


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