Pink Tax, Wage Gap, Gender Discrimination: Stories of Being a Woman in America During the Pandemic [VIDEO]

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The pink tax, the wage gap, and gender discrimination. Here’s a look at some of the issues facing women in America today. #DailyShow #DesiLydic #DulceSloan

00:00 - How the Pandemic Drove More Women Out of the Workforce
05:10 - Gender Discrimination in the NCAA
10:53 - Why the Wage Gap Is Very Real But Shouldn’t Be
14:15 - WAP & Women Artists Expressing Their Sexuality
16:28 - How the Pink Tax Is Ripping Off Women
21:58 - The Strong Black Woman Stereotype
25:42 - Violence Against Women & Why It’s Up to Men to Stop It

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132 comments
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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Jun 3, 2021 • 10:54:26am

This entire thread is full of drive-by Seb Gorka kinkshaming snark, and I am here for it

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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2021 • 10:54:35am
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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Jun 3, 2021 • 10:56:07am

(Apologies for making you all mentally picture Seb Gorka having intimate relations with inanimate objects, but hey, it’s a cold world people. Knuckle up.)

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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2021 • 10:56:52am

Hmm.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2021 • 10:57:06am

re: #1 Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)

Who knew those things are programmable? Now I have to know, exactly, what they can be programmed to do.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2021 • 10:57:09am
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Dopamine Fish  Jun 3, 2021 • 10:57:35am

re: #5 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Who knew those things are programmable? Now I have to know, exactly, what they can be programmed to do.

To borrow a phrase that is related in an entirely different way, anything is programmable if you’re brave enough.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2021 • 10:58:52am

re: #3 Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)

(Apologies for making you all mentally picture Seb Gorka having intimate relations with inanimate objects, but hey, it’s a cold world people. Knuckle up.)

No apologies needed (speaking for myself). Everyone knows this is the only intimacy a schmuck like him could get.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2021 • 10:59:56am

re: #3 Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)

Just wondering where he puts the Art of War plate.

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:06:24am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

So, rebooting with ctrl-alt-delete opens up the door to safe mode? Gives new meaning to 3-finger salute. /sorry not sorry. I’ll show myself out.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:07:42am

re: #5 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Who knew those things are programmable? Now I have to know, exactly, what they can be programmed to do.

If the robot killed Gorka would it be arrested and tried like Adam Link in this classic Outer Limits episode?

dailymotion.com

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aatharuv  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:08:42am

National Review now agrees with Maggie Haberman’s reporting that Donald Trump sincerely believes that he, David Perdue, and Martha McSally will come back to office in August. (via popehat).

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:09:42am

re: #10 lawhawk

So, rebooting with ctrl-alt-delete opens up the door to safe mode? Gives new meaning to 3-finger salute. /sorry not sorry. I’ll show myself out.

*WHACK!*

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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:10:04am

re: #10 lawhawk

So, rebooting with ctrl-alt-delete opens up the door to safe mode? Gives new meaning to 3-finger salute. /sorry not sorry. I’ll show myself out.

Microsoft was actually thinking about bringing Clippy back a few years ago. What did we ever do to deserve that?

I sentence you to a sexbot with the optional “Clippy” subroutine installed:

“I see you’re trying to get a little kinky tonight. Would you like some help with that?”

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JOE 🥓  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:13:12am

So when is DeJoy going to DeJail?

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aatharuv  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:14:31am

In potential good news, DeJoy is under investigation by the DoJ over potential campaign finance violations. Apparently, employees at his former company were pressured into donating to Republicans and then got reimbursed via bonuses. This was apparently first reported by the Washington Post in September,.

nytimes.com

washingtonpost.com

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:15:26am

re: #11 JOE 🥓

If the robot killed Gorka would it be arrested and tried like Adam Link in this classic Outer Limits episode?

dailymotion.com

Personally I’m rooting for Will Smith.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:16:39am

re: #16 aatharuv

In potential good news, DeJoy is under investigation by the DoJ over potential campaign finance violations. Apparently, employees at his former company were pressured into donating to Republicans and then got reimbursed via bonuses. This was apparently first reported by the Washington Post in September,.

nytimes.com

washingtonpost.com

Wasn’t that reported a while back? Or was it a different repug doing the same thing?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:17:28am

re: #12 aatharuv

National Review now agrees with Maggie Haberman’s reporting that Donald Trump sincerely believes that he, David Perdue, and Martha McSally will come back to office in August. (via popehat).

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The way they keep pushing the return date back, it’ll be 2024 before we know it.

They’re going to be saying this until he dies, at which point he replaces Jesus in the end times fan fiction.

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:17:31am

re: #18 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Wasn’t that reported a while back? Or was it a different repug doing the same thing?

It was reported a while back, but I think the FBI investigation is new.

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aatharuv  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:18:52am

re: #18 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Wasn’t that reported a while back? Or was it a different repug doing the same thing?

The campaign finance violations were reported a while back while TFG was still in power., but the actual investigation was apparently just reported today.

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sagehen  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:19:41am

re: #12 aatharuv

National Review now agrees with Maggie Haberman’s reporting that Donald Trump sincerely believes that he, David Perdue, and Martha McSally will come back to office in August. (via popehat).

I can’t help but think back to Bush v Gore, in which actual votes weren’t counted even once, because a bunch of congressional aides rioted at the counting house, in which thousands of legitimate eligible voters were purged, when the State legislature and the State Supreme Court and the US Supreme Court all had different views of the matter…

all we heard from the right was “you lost, get over it!” “GET OVER IT”. “STOP WHINING, WHY ARE YOU SO SUCH POOR LOSERS?”

Any suggestion that anything had been stolen was mocked relentlessly by the press, by the Senate, by Bush and Cheney, by Scalia and O’Connor and Thomas, loudly and publicly. It was Bush Derangement Syndrome. How DARE anybody question the electoral vote.

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Dangerman  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:20:00am

re: #12 aatharuv

National Review now agrees with Maggie Haberman’s reporting that Donald Trump sincerely believes that he, David Perdue, and Martha McSally will come back to office in August. (via popehat).

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challenge EVERY republican to this:

do you agree with TFG that this is going to happen - that’s it’s even possible?
or is he a loon

there is no third option - that’s not the question
there is no ‘we’ll he believes it’ - that’s not the question

there is no not answering - we’ll just ascribe ‘both’ as your answer
- if you dodge and won’t answer that’s clearly just outright political cowardice

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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:20:01am
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Jay C  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:20:21am

re: #16 aatharuv

In potential good news, DeJoy is under investigation by the DoJ over potential campaign finance violations. Apparently, employees at his former company were pressured into donating to Republicans and then got reimbursed via bonuses. This was apparently first reported by the Washington Post in September,.

nytimes.com

washingtonpost.com

I also recall seeing reportage that DeJoy also had conflict-of-interest issues wrt USPS contracts with companies he had a stake in: but as usual with TFG’s Admin, nobody seems to have pursued the matter very far (if at all).
Hopefully, the present Administration can leverage the investigation into getting rid of this corrupt asshole, IIRC, “improving the Postal Service” was yet another of those issues with insanely high public approval ratings.

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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:20:29am

re: #5 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Who knew those things are programmable? Now I have to know, exactly, what they can be programmed to do.

Um, exactly? Really?

I’m not sure you would want to know what the Rage Furby would program his to do.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:20:56am

re: #15 JOE 🥓

So when is DeJoy going to DeJail?

Not soon enough.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:23:48am

re: #26 Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)

Um, exactly? Really?

I’m not sure you would want to know what the Rage Furby would program his to do.

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Other than look like his Hot Asian ex-Wife?

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Dangerman  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:34:44am
The fundraising arm of House Republicans now has a confusingly labeled pre-checked box that authorizes a second donation five days later on its WinRed page.

They are pigs

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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:35:58am
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Dangerman  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:37:22am

re: #24 Charles Johnson

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“Measly” readers because they wouldn’t vax

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:38:27am

re: #31 Dangerman

“Measly” readers because they wouldn’t vax

That’s what happens I guess when you kill off your own audience.

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:40:14am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:41:23am

Ah, but which version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers? Personally, I think Philip Kaufman’s 1978 remake was one of those extremely rare instances where it was better than the original.

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Dangerman  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:42:25am

re: #33 lawhawk

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I do not doubt this: “stuff that’s not been done before.”

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:44:02am

re: #33 lawhawk

“He said he’d file the lawsuit just as soon as he found lawyers who didn’t collapse into fits of laughter when he described to them what he wanted to do.”

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JOE 🥓  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:44:02am

re: #33 lawhawk

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Wait a second!

Crackhead Mike said he filed that lawsuit against Dominon and Smartmatic over a month ago!

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:45:28am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:47:03am

re: #34 Dr Lizardo

Ah, but which version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers? Personally, I think Philip Kaufman’s 1978 remake was one of those extremely rare instances where it was better than the original.

The original lacked in Donald Sutherland, so could not measure up.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:47:04am

re: #30 Charles Johnson

Rothkopf isn’t right, though, because Republicans have clearly learned that Trumpism is an aesthetic that can persist while invoking the idea of Donald Trump while the actual Donald Trump is a useless tit holding court at a golf club.

Like, it’s a thing I repeat a lot, but the core premise here is that people don’t exist beyond their utility…and that standard is applied internally as well as externally. Donald Trump was able to get ahead for awhile by elaborating on an existing style of empty performance and cruelty. But the man himself is now embarrassing because he lost…and now that he doesn’t have power, it’s not exciting and pruriently enjoyable when he’s a rambling angry weirdo…but the myth of Trump has never even correlated to the actual man, and can persist without him. Even Trump’s own scammy projects operate on this basis.

Nobody’s’ regretting anything, at best they’re trying to do the math on how fast the general Trumpian feel will peel away from the man himself, and who’s particular style of huckstering and cruelty will generate the best outcomes.

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:49:26am

re: #39 Punish Domestic Terrorists

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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:50:27am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:53:00am

re: #39 Punish Domestic Terrorists

The original lacked in Donald Sutherland, so could not measure up.

Heh.

The ‘78 remake not only improved on the original film, but even (slightly) on Jack Finney’s source material and explored themes and ideas that were just touched on in the original film. Better character development in the remake too.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:55:47am

re: #40 The Ghost of a Flea

The corollary of this being that if the reactionaries and the crooks see utility in it, they will 100% support reinstalling Donald Trump to a position of authority no matter how soup brained he is. Indeed, a situation in which he grants cultural license because a ton of people love him, but policy is shaped by his cadre because he’s incapable—effectively taking us back to the age of child kings and wobble-headed emperors with evil counselors—is pretty much the ideal.

It’s the goon mentality…get yours by getting to the middle of the senseless hierarchy…carried to the point where it’s a wager with other people’s lives in the balance.

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:57:46am
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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:57:58am

re: #40 The Ghost of a Flea

Rothkopf isn’t right, though, because Republicans have clearly learned that Trumpism is an aesthetic that can persist while invoking the idea of Donald Trump while the actual Donald Trump is a useless tit holding court at a golf club.

Like, it’s a thing I repeat a lot, but the core premise here is that people don’t exist beyond their utility…and that standard is applied internally as well as externally. Donald Trump was able to get ahead for awhile by elaborating on an existing style of empty performance and cruelty. But the man himself is now embarrassing because he lost…and now that he doesn’t have power, it’s not exciting and pruriently enjoyable when he’s a rambling angry weirdo…but the myth of Trump has never even correlated to the actual man, and can persist without him. Even Trump’s own scammy projects operate on this basis.

Nobody’s’ regretting anything, at best they’re trying to do the math on how fast the general Trumpian feel will peel away from the man himself, and who’s particular style of huckstering and cruelty will generate the best outcomes.

Trump was simply a manifestation of the ongoing rot at the heart of modern conservative politics. If it hadn’t been him, it would have been someone like Cruz who was the next biggest winner of delegates in 2016. One could characterize his role in this whole sick affair as like that of ripping off a band-aid, the festering sore laid bare for all to see rather than covered-up by continued attempts as “competency.” That’s left the party leadership in the unenviable position that the only way they can possibly hope to get their base to the polls going forward is to either keep nuzzling his taint or find somebody who’s every bit as appealing to the MAGAts but without the baggage of being a loser.

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:59:55am

re: #45 lawhawk

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A whiny voice was heard in the halls of Congress screaming “DAD, YOU GOTTA MAKE THIS GO AWAY!!!”

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 3, 2021 • 11:59:55am

re: #10 lawhawk

So, rebooting with ctrl-alt-delete opens up the door to safe mode? Gives new meaning to 3-finger salute. /sorry not sorry. I’ll show myself out.

Twenty years ago, Seb used Y2K2 Jelly: Fits four digits in the space of two!
///

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JOE 🥓  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:01:04pm

re: #48 Sherlock Hound

Twenty years ago, Seb used Y2K2 Jelly: Fits four digits in the space of two!
///

Gong Show Gong

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:01:24pm

“May have,” so we only may be moving toward Skynet.

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:03:03pm

re: #50 Punish Domestic Terrorists

“May have,” so we only may be moving toward Skynet.

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“In three years, Cyberdyne will become the largest supplier of military computer systems. All stealth bombers are upgraded with Cyberdyne computers, becoming fully unmanned. Afterwards, they fly with a perfect operational record. The Skynet Funding Bill is passed. The system goes online August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:05:56pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

“In three years, Cyberdyne will become the largest supplier of military computer systems. All stealth bombers are upgraded with Cyberdyne computers, becoming fully unmanned. Afterwards, they fly with a perfect operational record. The Skynet Funding Bill is passed. The system goes online August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.”

Terminator 3 - Nuclear attack ending HD (1080p)

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:06:03pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

“In three years, Cyberdyne will become the largest supplier of military computer systems. All stealth bombers are upgraded with Cyberdyne computers, becoming fully unmanned. Afterwards, they fly with a perfect operational record. The Skynet Funding Bill is passed. The system goes online August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.”

I’d like to think that humanity will create intelligent life at some point. We do not measure up ourselves.

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:10:11pm

We’re edging ever closer to making the idea that war is just a game that nations play into a reality, and I worry that doing so will make it easier to ignore the human cost and suffering that is inflicted upon those who can’t afford waves of unmanned drones and bombers.

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gwangung  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:11:01pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

We’re edging ever closer to making the idea that war is just a game that nations play into a reality, and I worry that doing so will make it easier to ignore the human cost and suffering that is inflicted upon those who can’t afford waves of unmanned drones and bombers.

Most Republicans are already there.

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:14:30pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

We’re edging ever closer to making the idea that war is just a game that nations play into a reality, and I worry that doing so will make it easier to ignore the human cost and suffering that is inflicted upon those who can’t afford waves of unmanned drones and bombers.

You are correct. But we get battlemechs afterwards according to RPGs I have played.

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sagehen  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:14:42pm

I’m watching MSNBC’s attempt to explain the Israeli election results…

Do I understand correctly that a coalition of extreme right wing, sorta right wing, center right, center left, sorta left wing, very left wing, ultra-religious, ultra-secular, ethnic niche parties, and moderate in all things parties have banded together? That the one and only thing ALL of them can agree on is they really dislike Bibi and want him out?

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Dangerman  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:15:32pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

“In three years, Cyberdyne will become the largest supplier of military computer systems. All stealth bombers are upgraded with Cyberdyne computers, becoming fully unmanned. Afterwards, they fly with a perfect operational record. The Skynet Funding Bill is passed. The system goes online August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.”

Matthew Broderick can save us by playing tic tac toe

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Dangerman  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:16:38pm

re: #57 sagehen

I’m watching MSNBC’s attempt to explain the Israeli election results…

Do I understand correctly that a coalition of extreme right wing, sorta right wing, center right, center left, sorta left wing, very left wing, ultra-religious, ultra-secular, ethnic niche parties, and moderate in all things parties have banded together? That the one and only thing ALL of them can agree on is they really dislike Bibi and want him out?

That’s how I understand it

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:16:47pm

re: #53 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I’d like to think that humanity will create intelligent life at some point. We do not measure up ourselves.

Galaxy Song

Galaxy Song - Monty Python’s The Meaning of Life

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:19:28pm

re: #57 sagehen

I’m watching MSNBC’s attempt to explain the Israeli election results…

Do I understand properly that a coalition of extreme right wing, sort right wing, center right, center left, sorta left wing, very left wing, ultra-religious, ultra-secular, ethnic niche parties, and moderate in all things parties have banded together? That the one and only thing ALL of them can agree on is they really dislike Bibi and want him out?

Quick and dirty version of events over past 48 hours in Israeli politics:

Far right party led by Bennett has teamed up with center and left wing parties and one of the Arab parties to form the ABB - anyone but Bibi coalition. They’ve got a single uniting declaration - Bibi’s got to go. The Arab party (Ra’am) is the first to ever be in a coalition govt, and the other Arab party is pissed, because Bennett has sought to annex the West Bank in the past. Ra’am got an agreement to end demolitions for Arab homes that lack permits. Various parties got cabinet slots and ability to pick next members of the Israeli Supreme Court.

Winner: ABB.
Loser: Bibi. that’s why Bibi’s out to sabotage the ABB effort.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:21:34pm
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Dangerman  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:23:08pm

Rando: This is why Nancy and Chuck and Biden and Garland should not even try to make these investigations bipartisan, or reach out in anyway. Anything that appeases the GOP will by definition sabotage a full and unvarnished accounting of the events of 1/6 as well as the events leading up to it. And, the GOP will still scream “Partisanship! One sided story, lies, all lies the Dems are using to try to destroy us!”

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Thanos  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:23:59pm

It was the third of June,

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:24:02pm

re: #62 jaunte

On the contrary, the Texas GOP are going to make Texans pay for the failures of ERCOT, GOP refusal to provide proper oversight/regulation, and then do nothing to prevent future outages.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:24:25pm

re: #61 lawhawk

Bibi’s biggest concern is keeping himself out of the slammer.

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Dangerman  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:24:41pm

Some aspects of govt are working

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Jay C  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:25:25pm

re: #57 sagehen

I’m watching MSNBC’s attempt to explain the Israeli election results…

Do I understand correctly that a coalition of extreme right wing, sorta right wing, center right, center left, sorta left wing, very left wing, ultra-religious, ultra-secular, ethnic niche parties, and moderate in all things parties have banded together? That the one and only thing ALL of them can agree on is they really dislike Bibi and want him out?

Ludicrous as it all sounds, basically “yes”….

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:27:16pm

re: #63 Dangerman

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Rando: This is why Nancy and Chuck and Biden and Garland should not even try to make these investigations bipartisan, or reach out in anyway. Anything that appeases the GOP will by definition sabotage a full and unvarnished accounting of the events of 1/6 as well as the events leading up to it. And, the GOP will still scream “Partisanship! One sided story, lies, all lies the Dems are using to try to destroy us!”

Pelosi and Schumer agreed to GQP demands to equal representation on the commission, as well as coequal subpoena power, and setting a deadline of Dec 31 for the commission to complete its work and issue its report.

The one demand they did not get, and the only demand they ever really cared about, was allowing them to derail the purpose of the commission by wasting time on their “whataboutism” regarding last year’s demonstrations in the wake of the murder of George Floyd.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:29:30pm

re: #64 Thanos

It was the third of June,

Can you believe it’s already June? (Time)

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:30:25pm

re: #68 Jay C

Ludicrous as it all sounds, basically “yes”….

Sounds less ludicrous than the right-wingers still supporting Bibi like they do Trump here.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:31:45pm

re: #64 Thanos

It was the third of June,

Billie Joe had some unrequited love issues.

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:33:29pm

Latest talking point: “WE ALREADY HAD AN IMPEACHMENT, NOTHING WAS FOUND, IT’S TIME TO MOVE ON!!!”

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:38:40pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

We’re edging ever closer to making the idea that war is just a game that nations play into a reality, and I worry that doing so will make it easier to ignore the human cost and suffering that is inflicted upon those who can’t afford waves of unmanned drones and bombers.

Star Trek took it to the logical conclusion that societies will recognize the unacceptable limits of physical damage caused by war and instead will reduce it to a game-like scenario where each side announces that they have theoretically attacked and tell the other that they have to eliminate x-number of civilians from their population that the theoretical model predicts would have been killed had such an attack actually taken place.

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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:40:46pm

re: #56 Belafon

You are correct. But we get battlemechs afterwards according to RPGs I have played.

Unless we get the antiAI and computer jihad of other SF…

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:41:10pm

re: #74 Barefoot Grin

Star Trek took it to the logical conclusion that societies will recognize the unacceptable limits of physical damage caused by war and instead will reduce it to a game-like scenario where each side announces that they have theoretically attacked and tell the other that they have to eliminate x-number of civilians from their population that the theoretical model predicts would have been killed had such an attack actually taken place.

The neutron bomb had already been described a decade before that episode, so it was already out of date.

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Dangerman  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:42:24pm

“He called me a loser. I’ve never lost an election. He has. He’s the only loser in that mix… He’s down there obsessing about the fact that he’s a loser. I’m sorry you’re a loser, but you lost.”

— Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL), talking about former President Donald Trump on CNN.

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:42:51pm

re: #75 William Lewis

Unless we get the antiAI and computer jihad of other SF…

“It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.”

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Jay C  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:45:29pm

re: #71 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Sounds less ludicrous than the right-wingers still supporting Bibi like they do Trump here.

Not really: crooked as he may be, Netanyahu has been the major player in Israeli politics for a long time: it’s not surprising (to me) that he has spent a considerable amount of that time building up a personal influence bloc in order to maintain power, and keep his dishonest ass out of slam. IIRC, the corruption charges he’s facing have been around for years: but under the Israeli system, the officials responsible for actual prosecution have always (just by coincidence, no doubt) been Bibi’s friends/cronies/political dependents - hence the notably glacial pace of investigations and prosecutions.
The big problem, though seems to be that the NBB (Nobody But Bibi) and ABB (Anybody But Bibi) blocs are about the same size…..

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:50:08pm

re: #29 Dangerman

They are pigs

I don’t feel sorry for the idiots who donate to the Republican Party so 🤷🏽‍♀️

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:54:15pm

re: #63 Dangerman

Why does the investigation stop short of investigating Trump’s role in the January 6th insurrection? (I’m reading the chyron).

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:55:11pm

re: #80 Patricia Kayden

I don’t feel sorry for the idiots who donate to the Republican Party so 🤷🏽‍♀️

I’d prefer that Steve Bannon grifts them and drinks up their money, rather than having it go to House Republicans.

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Dangerman  Jun 3, 2021 • 12:57:09pm

re: #81 Patricia Kayden

Why does the investigation stop short of investigating Trump’s role in the January 6th insurrection? (I’m reading the chyron).

from cnn:

…the release of the report undoubtedly will spawn a fierce battle between the two parties about what else should be done to look into the events of January 6, if anything at all. That’s because the Senate investigation had a narrow scope, focusing namely on security problems leading up to the deadly insurrection — and not the role that Trump played fueling the insurrectionists by claiming the 2020 election had been stolen from him.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:03:43pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:05:47pm

re: #84 jaunte

Jeebus. I’m no master financial planner but I can manage to keep all my own bills paid.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:06:41pm

re: #85 Eclectic Cyborg

Qualifications for getting elected as a Republican keep going down.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:08:00pm

He’s the face, literally, of a new generation of lawmaker puppets.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:08:28pm

re: #1 Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)

Rule 34 Seb Gorka

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:09:43pm

re: #85 Eclectic Cyborg

Jeebus. I’m no master financial planner but I can manage to keep all my own bills paid.

Hell, I remember them teaching us how to balance a checkbook in Jr. High home economics

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:11:33pm

re: #89 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Hell, I remember them teaching us how to balance a checkbook in Jr. High home economics

Republicans eliminated those.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:12:25pm

re: #90 Belafon

Republicans eliminated those.

“Boys don’t need to learn to cook, that’s what women are for”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:15:09pm

re: #89 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Hell, I remember them teaching us how to balance a checkbook in Jr. High home economics

Never did that in school. Fortunately, my dad was good at teaching me about money.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:15:38pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:16:13pm

re: #91 Dopamine Fish

“Boys don’t need to learn to cook, that’s what women are for”

Yeah. Exactly what my father said when he found out mom approved me taking the class. Hey dad! SURPRISE!!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:16:49pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:18:58pm

re: #94 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Yeah. Exactly what my father said when he found out mom approved me taking the class. Hey dad! SURPRISE!!

I knew several boys who were in traditionally girl’s classes because they were smart, and knew they’d be surrounded by girls that they’d like to get to know.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:19:53pm

re: #96 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I knew several boys who were in traditionally girl’s classes because they were smart, and knew they’d be surrounded by girls that they’d like to get to know.

Wish I’d thought of that.

/

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:19:59pm

Seems fair. Make sure the wealthy masterminds pay, too.

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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:20:11pm

re: #91 Dopamine Fish

“Boys don’t need to learn to cook, that’s what women are for”

I enjoyed my home economics classes. I enjoyed hand sewing a quilted camo hunting vest.

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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:21:16pm

re: #96 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I knew several boys who were in traditionally girl’s classes because they were smart, and knew they’d be surrounded by girls that they’d like to get to know.

That was also a real bonus :)

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:21:24pm

re: #96 Punish Domestic Terrorists

My second favorite part of art classes.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:21:35pm

re: #99 William Lewis

I enjoyed my home economics classes. I enjoyed hand sewing a quilted camo hunting vest.

Tell that to a rigid-gender-role Conservative if you want to confuse them.

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Dangerman  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:22:16pm

re: #84 jaunte

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read a book

inflation doesnt work that fast
ps -support your thesis: how specifically has biden caused prices to rise?

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:22:45pm

re: #96 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I knew several boys who were in traditionally girl’s classes because they were smart, and knew they’d be surrounded by girls that they’d like to get to know.

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Dangerman  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:22:55pm

re: #87 jaunte

He’s the face, literally, of a new generation of lawmaker puppets elected grifters.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:23:15pm

re: #103 Dangerman

People are getting paid again, what a disaster.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:23:31pm

re: #12 aatharuv

National Review now agrees with Maggie Haberman’s reporting that Donald Trump sincerely believes that he, David Perdue, and Martha McSally will come back to office in August. (via popehat).

Apparently the statute of limitations bars prosecution for some/all? of his activities as of August 2021.

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ericblair  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:23:48pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

We’re edging ever closer to making the idea that war is just a game that nations play into a reality, and I worry that doing so will make it easier to ignore the human cost and suffering that is inflicted upon those who can’t afford waves of unmanned drones and bombers.

Everybody can afford waves of drones. Drones are cheap cheap cheap. You don’t need a Global Hawk or a Reaper. This makes drone-bombs, aka “loitering munitions”, cheap, as well as intelligence platforms and jammers. The future is likely to be coordinated drone swarms.

Anti-drone defenses exist, but most manufacturers and users are quiet about it. I would expect in a few years that most sensitive areas and large residences will be equipped with anti-drone defense as a matter of course.

And autonomous weapons have been with us for a long time: what else is a landmine? They don’t have to be intelligent, they just have to operate on their own. There is a lot of work now on law and ethics for AI and autonomous systems, and I’d expect another Geneva Convention eventually.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:25:00pm

re: #108 ericblair

large residences will be equipped with anti-drone defense

The Streisandtech V-4000.

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Dangerman  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:25:37pm

re: #98 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Seems fair. Make sure the wealthy masterminds pay, too.

tourists damaged the capitol?

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:26:55pm

re: #110 Dangerman

tourists damaged the capitol?

They tourists were also decorators.
They came in and decorated the building. With poop.

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Dangerman  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:27:05pm

re: #106 jaunte

People are getting paid again, what a disaster.

and some supply is scarce. quelle surprise

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:27:58pm

re: #96 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I knew several boys who were in traditionally girl’s classes because they were smart, and knew they’d be surrounded by girls that they’d like to get to know.

I fell into the dweeb class. I just wanted to learn those skills.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:28:33pm
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JOE 🥓  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:30:43pm

Washington Post news alert—F Lee Bailey died at the age of 89.

washingtonpost.com

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:32:04pm

re: #115 JOE 🥓

Washington Post news alert—F Lee Bailey died at the age of 89.

Thought he was dead.

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steve_davis  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:32:13pm

re: #74 Barefoot Grin

Star Trek took it to the logical conclusion that societies will recognize the unacceptable limits of physical damage caused by war and instead will reduce it to a game-like scenario where each side announces that they have theoretically attacked and tell the other that they have to eliminate x-number of civilians from their population that the theoretical model predicts would have been killed had such an attack actually taken place.

Yes, but then somebody like Kirk comes along and sabotages an entire solar system’s method of maintaining the balance, potentially killing tens of millions of people in nuclear warfare, all because he has a habit of throwing dice in the corner and then guessing at the outcome.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:34:23pm

re: #99 William Lewis

I enjoyed my home economics classes. I enjoyed hand sewing a quilted camo hunting vest.

Mom wouldn’t let me anywhere near her sewing machine until I could show her I could use one without fucking it up. Never was very good at hand sewing. I either get too much thread & end up with a knot or too little and have to start a second seam.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:37:43pm

re: #117 steve_davis

Yes, but then somebody like Kirk comes along and sabotages an entire solar system’s method of maintaining the balance, potentially killing tens of millions of people in nuclear warfare, all because he has a habit of throwing dice in the corner and then guessing at the outcome.

The Prime Directive only existed to be violated.

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steve_davis  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:37:51pm

re: #89 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Hell, I remember them teaching us how to balance a checkbook in Jr. High home economics

i was absolutely fecking horrible at balancing a checkbook. I tried conscientiously, but I constantly found myself off from whatever the actual balance was. Back in those days, a lot more checks got written than now, where I might write 3 or 4 checks a year, but I was constantly into overdraft protection, which made things eve worse because the banks had intentionally arcane ways of bookkeeping the overdraft funds, such that once I was into that, I could never get anything to balance again.

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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:38:45pm

re: #118 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Mom wouldn’t let me anywhere near her sewing machine until I could show her I could use one without fucking it up. Never was very good at hand sewing. I either get too much thread & end up with a knot or too little and have to start a second seam.

My bigger problem was getting the pattern laid out and cut out correctly. Measure twice cut once indeed! The sewing part was relatively easy.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:40:28pm

When I was a kid, the closest I got to Mom’s Singer machine was when it had to be repaired and I installed the replacement parts or belts for her.

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steve_davis  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:40:50pm

re: #96 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I knew several boys who were in traditionally girl’s classes because they were smart, and knew they’d be surrounded by girls that they’d like to get to know.

yeah, i did home economics rather than shop. mostly it was because my assessment of the kids in shop was that I would have a better chance of making it out of the Shawshank laundry room alive and unraped. It was okay though. I learned how to sew a damned shirt.

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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:41:41pm

re: #119 Punish Domestic Terrorists

The Prime Directive only existed to be violated.

Some of the later Treks managed to make interesting stories about it though.

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:43:46pm

re: #103 Dangerman

read a book

inflation doesnt work that fast
ps -support your thesis: how specifically has biden caused prices to rise?

[Embedded content]

“If Biden had only not done anything then I would have to bash him for something I don’t understand because I would bash him for something else I don’t understand.”

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:46:12pm

F. Lee Bailey defended My Lai defendant Ernest Medina and gave him a job at his helicopter company.

Medina was the commander of Charlie Company, which carried out the massacre. He was acquitted at court martial. William Calley, who was convicted, commanded just one of C Company’s platoons. There is compelling testimony, from the participants, that other platoons took part.

Medina’s defense team, led by F. Lee Bailey, and a support staff that included Gary Myers, alleged that his men killed Vietnamese noncombatants under their own volition and not under Medina’s orders. Medina also testified that he did not become aware that his troops were out of control at My Lai until the massacre was already well underway.

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steve_davis  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:47:00pm

re: #108 ericblair

Everybody can afford waves of drones. Drones are cheap cheap cheap. You don’t need a Global Hawk or a Reaper. This makes drone-bombs, aka “loitering munitions”, cheap, as well as intelligence platforms and jammers. The future is likely to be coordinated drone swarms.

Anti-drone defenses exist, but most manufacturers and users are quiet about it. I would expect in a few years that most sensitive areas and large residences will be equipped with anti-drone defense as a matter of course.

And autonomous weapons have been with us for a long time: what else is a landmine? They don’t have to be intelligent, they just have to operate on their own. There is a lot of work now on law and ethics for AI and autonomous systems, and I’d expect another Geneva Convention eventually.

I have wondered (and I mention this only because I doubt I would be giving away a trade secret) why terrorists have not drone-struck a stadium by this point. Don’t even need to fire anything from the drone. Just put several hundred pounds of high explosives on it. You could even do like the v2’s, and just calculate roughly how much fuel you need to get it over the site before it falls and explodes, so you don’t have to worry about radio jamming.

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sagehen  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:47:40pm

re: #94 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Yeah. Exactly what my father said when he found out mom approved me taking the class. Hey dad! SURPRISE!!

The year before me, it was automatic at my Jr High that girls took Home Ec (cooking and sewing) and boys took woodshop.

I wanted woodshop. Mom went to bat for me, made a big fuss. I was the only girl in woodshop. But the next year, every student got to choose one or the other.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:54:17pm

re: #128 sagehen

The year before me, it was automatic at my Jr High that girls took Home Ec (cooking and sewing) and boys took woodshop.

I wanted woodshop. Mom went to bat for me, made a big fuss. I was the only girl in woodshop. But the next year, every student got to choose one or the other.

You and your mom created change that benefits many others. That’s impressive!

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sagehen  Jun 3, 2021 • 1:57:55pm

re: #129 Punish Domestic Terrorists

You and your mom created change that benefits many others. That’s impressive!

Her more than me; but the possibility of things like this is why she went to law school.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jun 3, 2021 • 2:38:10pm

re: #96 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I knew several boys who were in traditionally girl’s classes because they were smart, and knew they’d be surrounded by girls that they’d like to get to know.

Yoga classes when I was at Michigan Law 🤓🤗

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2021 • 3:11:27pm

re: #128 sagehen

The year before me, it was automatic at my Jr High that girls took Home Ec (cooking and sewing) and boys took woodshop.

I wanted woodshop. Mom went to bat for me, made a big fuss. I was the only girl in woodshop. But the next year, every student got to choose one or the other.

As a little kid back in the early 60s in Buffalo NY, I was a member of the local PAL (Police Athletic League). I strolled into the woodshop room one day and was the only kid there.
The teacher was a bit taken aback that this little girl wanted to learn how to use power tools, but he pretty much said WTF and I spent most of my time there (otherwise I was up in the poolroom kicking ass and taking names).


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