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William Lewis  Jun 13, 2021 • 9:13:09pm

Gorgeous piece of music. I’ll have to track the other variations down as well. Thank you, Charles.

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Citizen K  Jun 13, 2021 • 9:39:42pm

The complete victory of propaganda may very well be complete at this rate.

The power of the Backlash Effect is just honestly depressing. The 1619 Project, far and away from being the reckoning it should have been, may just very well usher the full and official total whitewashing of the very thing it should have shed light on for decades to come, all because the infinite power of white fragility in this country.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 13, 2021 • 9:42:47pm

re: #2 Citizen K

The complete victory of propaganda may very well be complete at this rate.

The power of the Backlash Effect is just honestly depressing. The 1619 Project, far and away from being the reckoning it should have been, may just very well usher the full and official total whitewashing of the very thing it should have shed light on for decades to come, all because the infinite power of white fragility in this country.

LBJ told the truth in 1967 and what he said is even truer today!

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Citizen K  Jun 13, 2021 • 9:46:00pm

re: #3 JOE 🥓

LBJ told the truth in 1967 and what he said is even truer today!

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And it seems like changing demographics, instead of finally helping do away with this, just means excuse to go mask off and demand the outright erasure of any of White America’s sins. And it’s working. It’s goddamn working.

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Targetpractice  Jun 13, 2021 • 9:47:11pm

re: #2 Citizen K

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The complete victory of propaganda may very well be complete at this rate.

The power of the Backlash Effect is just honestly depressing. The 1619 Project, far and away from being the reckoning it should have been, may just very well usher the full and official total whitewashing of the very thing it should have shed light on for decades to come, all because the infinite power of white fragility in this country.

“Give equal weight to divisive topics.” OFFS

“Alright, children, today we’re going to tackle how all life on Earth came to be. On the left is Dr. Banks, a evolutionary biologist with a PhD. from MIT and numerous published papers to fill us in on evolution and how it worked over millions of years. And on the right is Reverend Palmer, who will be telling us about how some white guy in the sky created everything in six days.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 13, 2021 • 9:51:32pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

“Give equal weight to divisive topics.” OFFS

“Alright, children, today we’re going to tackle how all life on Earth came to be. On the left is Dr. Banks, a evolutionary biologist with a PhD. from MIT and numerous published papers to fill us in on evolution and how it worked over millions of years. And on the right is Reverend Palmer, who will be telling us about how some white guy in the sky created everything in six days.”

That is literally exactly what they want to
happen.

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Targetpractice  Jun 13, 2021 • 9:53:18pm

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

That is literally exactly what they want to
happen.

No, what they literally want to happen is for Rev. Palmer to be introduced as the expert on the matter, with Dr. Banks introduced as the godless heathen whose teachings will lead those children to stray from the godly path.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 13, 2021 • 9:56:11pm

Police unions go after liberals who have no chance of losing just so they can raise money

Police union PACs launch text attacks on The Squad

The $510,000 in spending by two PACs associated with the International Union of Police Associations is the largest independent political expenditure of the 2022 cycle to date. It appears geared less toward unseating any of the members and more toward raising money for the groups themselves.

What’s happening: Both groups — Law Enforcement for a Safer America PAC and Honoring American Law Enforcement PAC — are affiliated with the International Union of Police Associations.

Together, the two PACs reported spending $127,500 attacking each of the four House Democrats in the progressive “Squad”: Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan.

axios.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 13, 2021 • 10:01:06pm

re: #8 JOE 🥓

But THIN BLUE LINE, or some shit…

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Dave In Austin  Jun 13, 2021 • 10:03:50pm

Don’t forget this guy.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 13, 2021 • 10:07:18pm
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Belafon  Jun 13, 2021 • 10:10:01pm

re: #2 Citizen K

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The complete victory of propaganda may very well be complete at this rate.

The power of the Backlash Effect is just honestly depressing. The 1619 Project, far and away from being the reckoning it should have been, may just very well usher the full and official total whitewashing of the very thing it should have shed light on for decades to come, all because the infinite power of white fragility in this country.

If it worked they wouldn’t be trying so hard.

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Targetpractice  Jun 13, 2021 • 10:12:27pm

re: #8 JOE 🥓

And this will be fully endorsed by the same people who declare with straight faces that teacher unions are evil because they use a portion of member dues for “political activities” (i.e. endorse Democrats).

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Targetpractice  Jun 13, 2021 • 10:47:00pm

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 13, 2021 • 10:57:57pm

re: #2 Citizen K

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The complete victory of propaganda may very well be complete at this rate.

The power of the Backlash Effect is just honestly depressing. The 1619 Project, far and away from being the reckoning it should have been, may just very well usher the full and official total whitewashing of the very thing it should have shed light on for decades to come, all because the infinite power of white fragility in this country.

Texas (and other) schools have been trying this in one guise or other, for as far back and I can remember, and it never worked before. Honestly, every wingnut proposal that hits these pages is treated as if it has already succeeded and there’s no way it could fail. Some people just like depressing themselves.

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Targetpractice  Jun 13, 2021 • 11:08:54pm

re: #15 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Texas (and other) schools have been trying this in one guise or other, for as far back and I can remember, and it never worked before. Honestly, every wingnut proposal that hits these pages is treated as if it has already succeeded and there’s no way it could fail. Some people just like depressing themselves.

I think it’s become a yearly occurrence now to wig out about TX education standards if only because textbook printers rely upon them more than any other state in the union.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 13, 2021 • 11:29:48pm

UFO Experts, LOL.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 13, 2021 • 11:39:34pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 13, 2021 • 11:51:44pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 14, 2021 • 12:07:46am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 14, 2021 • 12:19:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 14, 2021 • 12:19:45am

re: #21 Dread Pirate Ron

Bold seamen all!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 14, 2021 • 12:25:50am

Gohmerta = GOP Code of Stupidity

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 14, 2021 • 12:29:35am

Newsmax panel melts down over a high school student saying “Allah” during the Pledge of Allegiance

“It’s un-American, it’s unpatriotic, and it’s, quite frankly, upsetting”

Some might argue that shoehorning “Under God” into a civic pledge in a public school is un-American.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 14, 2021 • 12:39:46am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 14, 2021 • 12:42:46am

re: #25 Dave In Austin

anyone who’d pay $1200 to see Kid Rock and Ted Nugent deserves to be scammed

Three categories of “Trump supporters”:

1) People who just enjoy evoking a rise out of liberals and want to see how much they can get away with

2) The True Believers who take it all at face value

3) Cynics and scammers who see see through it but still also see it as a chance to make a buck or advance their agenda

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 14, 2021 • 1:21:07am
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Targetpractice  Jun 14, 2021 • 1:26:49am

re: #20 Dread Pirate Ron

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It’s not going to work. The “bill” presently remains vaporware, is still 5 Repubs and 45 Dems short of a filibuster-proof majority, and would still need to get through the House before it would ever reach the Oval Office. Several Senate and House Dems have gone on record as saying that the “bill” as proposed is a non-starter. And the WH has already said that a gas tax hike isn’t going to happen.

It’s the ACA all over again, with “negotiations” that are really just the GQP negotiating with themselves.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 14, 2021 • 1:33:32am

There are some great slow-mo clips out there of Wasabi, but I thought full speed was much better

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 14, 2021 • 1:37:44am

re: #27 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

US officials are assessing a report of a leak at a Chinese nuclear power plant but don’t yet think the facility is at crisis level, US sources say

Government officials

leak

“not yet crisis level”

sound familiar?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 14, 2021 • 1:41:56am

I went outside to let the dog go to the bathroom. It is overcast and stuff is falling from the sky that isn’t water. It shouldn’t be cloudy and there shouldn’t be stuff falling from the sky.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 14, 2021 • 1:45:11am

re: #31 Dread Pirate Ron

I went outside to let the dog go to the bathroom. It is overcast and stuff is falling from the sky that isn’t water. It shouldn’t be cloudy and there shouldn’t be stuff falling from the sky.

Is there a large fire in the region?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 14, 2021 • 1:51:06am

re: #32 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Is there a large fire in the region?

No, and it appears to be water. This has to be the lightest rain I’ve ever seen, not even enough to be called a falling mist. Too sparse to even be called falling fog.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 14, 2021 • 1:56:58am

Rain season ends June 30. Here’s our year so far.

17.4” is our reduced modern average. It used to rain a lot in the 60s. Maybe 21-24” average.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 14, 2021 • 2:17:39am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 14, 2021 • 2:33:23am

I can see a few days this week I won’t be riding my bike, after noon for sure.

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ericblair  Jun 14, 2021 • 2:34:56am

re: #27 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

US officials are assessing a report of a leak at a Chinese nuclear power plant but don’t yet think the facility is at crisis level, US sources say

Looks like the French company partnering to build it is blowing the whistle. Apparently it’s a radioactive gas leak from the core, but not likely to become a disaster, which doesn’t sound as reassuring as I would like. The Chinese reaction is to, of course, say that everything is just fucking peachy thanks, while consistently raising the shutdown threshold as the leak grows.

I seem to recall another recent incident where the Chinese government has told everyone things are just fucking peachy thanks, while in fact they became not peachy at all.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 14, 2021 • 2:44:28am

re: #30 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

US officials are assessing a report of a leak at a Chinese nuclear power plant but don’t yet think the facility is at crisis level, US sources say

Government officials

leak

“not yet crisis level”

sound familiar?

Dyatlov 3.6 Roentgen Not Great Not Terrible

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 14, 2021 • 2:44:40am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 14, 2021 • 2:52:19am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 14, 2021 • 2:54:38am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 14, 2021 • 3:13:00am

mmmmm, east CC county Bing cherries. Store bought aren’t as fulfilling as going out in the orchard and picking your own but still great. Same thing for oranges in Santa Barbara.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 14, 2021 • 4:06:23am

re: #25 Dave In Austin

How do we know that those tickets are real? Are people so stupid that they’d fork over so much money for an obvious fraud? I find that hard to believe. If true, this appears to be a set up for another insurrection and law enforcement needs to get involved.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 14, 2021 • 4:13:13am

re: #43 Patricia Kayden

How do we know that those tickets are real? Are people so stupid that they’d fork over so much money for an obvious fraud? I find that hard to believe. If true, this appears to be a set up for another insurrection and law enforcement needs to get involved.

The sort of thing that could have started out as a joke but because Poe’s Law seems to be the only law that applies equally and universally to US politics, it got picked up on and taken seriously.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 14, 2021 • 4:13:58am

re: #43 Patricia Kayden

How do we know that those tickets are real? Are people so stupid that they’d fork over so much money for an obvious fraud? I find that hard to believe. If true, this appears to be a set up for another insurrection and law enforcement needs to get involved.

Yes, yes they are. You may find it hard to believe, but there are people out there who so desperately want to believe that Trump can - and will - become President again that they will give over their entire life’s savings, if necessary, to see it happen. It’s an obvious con to us, but to people whose reality is defined by Faux News and OANN and Newsmax, this is their fever dream come true.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 14, 2021 • 4:21:04am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 14, 2021 • 4:24:57am

re: #46 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It took moving to Europe to get me to look on all the things that Americans see as normal that other societies don’t.

I still recall the argument about restarting as soon as possible during Covid because “people die of Covid, but they also die of poverty!”

People don’t die of poverty. They die of a lack of proper nutrition, medical care and housing.

Because our society believes that poor people don’t deserve those things…

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 14, 2021 • 4:34:12am

re: #43 Patricia Kayden

How do we know that those tickets are real? Are people so stupid that they’d fork over so much money for an obvious fraud? I find that hard to believe. If true, this appears to be a set up for another insurrection and law enforcement needs to get involved.

Something, something, a fool and his money….

If that’s not photoshop, it’s certainly a scam and yeah, I agree anyone who’s genuinely gullible enough to buy one is going to be livid once they realize they’ve been fleeced. It’s fraud, so law enforcement needs to start investigating pronto.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 4:47:33am
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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 4:51:20am

Maybe it is a virus designed to target conservatives:

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 4:53:27am

For people who thought AOC’s reply was too subtle:

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A Mom Anon  Jun 14, 2021 • 4:57:28am

re: #51 Belafon

So cancer doesn’t exist then. Or it’s a satanic bioweapon. And if she gets cancer I’m sure that thoughts and prayers will be her primary source of medical care. I’m this close to rooting for cancer here.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 5:03:21am

re: #52 A Mom Anon

So cancer doesn’t exist then. Or it’s a satanic bioweapon. And if she gets cancer I’m sure that thoughts and prayers will be her primary source of medical care. I’m this close to rooting for cancer here.

Remember what Evangelicals said AIDS was for?

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sagehen  Jun 14, 2021 • 5:03:36am

I bet she’s got a great explanation for why God would send the Bubonic Plague to kill 40% of Europe.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 5:28:11am

Yair Lapid goes up podium, bashes hecklers, and returns to seat

Yesh Atid head Yair Lapid took the podium after Naftali Bennett, but used only one minute out of his nine allotted in order to reprimand the Knesset members who had continuously heckled incoming Prime Minister Bennett.

“Every Israeli citizen is embarrassed in you and is now reminded of why we have to replace you,” Lapid said before returning to his seat.

haaretz.com

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 5:28:57am

re: #55 Belafon

Reload

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 5:32:28am
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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 5:32:42am
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sagehen  Jun 14, 2021 • 5:32:59am

re: #55 Belafon

haaretz.com

and when a Jewish mother is ashamed of you…

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Dangerman  Jun 14, 2021 • 5:57:34am
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Dangerman  Jun 14, 2021 • 5:59:31am

Read this an hour ago
Took till just now to get up off the floor. I couldn’t stop laughing…..

Kayleigh McEnany claimed that it was impossible for her to lie during her time as former President Donald Trump’s White House press secretary because of her faith in God, the Washington Examiner reports.

Said McEnany: “As a woman of faith, as a mother of baby Blake, as a person who meticulously prepared at some of the world’s hardest institutions, I never lied. I sourced my information.”

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 14, 2021 • 6:02:36am

re: #61 Dangerman

Read this an hour ago
Took till just now to get up off the floor. I couldn’t stop laughing…..

Seeking out sources of “information” that lie is a large part of the lying her lie-based subculture insists upon.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 14, 2021 • 6:03:25am

re: #61 Dangerman

Read this an hour ago
Took till just now to get up off the floor. I couldn’t stop laughing…..

Oh shut the hell up Satan’s Tinkerbelle and spread your fascist fairy dust elsewhere.

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Dangerman  Jun 14, 2021 • 6:03:41am

re: #17 Dread Pirate Ron

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UFO Experts, LOL.

A lot of this stuff is probably classified.
Not because its aliens
If they revealed a lot of it, you guys would be out of arguments, and work

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 14, 2021 • 6:06:14am

re: #46 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Very interesting — particularly his view on African Americans and the importance of education.

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jeffreyw  Jun 14, 2021 • 6:07:42am

YouTube

Good morning!

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Dangerman  Jun 14, 2021 • 6:17:19am

re: #27 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Was it a virus leak, cause, you know..

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2021 • 6:23:43am

The Supreme Court will be handing down orders and possibly opinions at 10am ET. There’s about 20 opinions remaining to be handed down, including notable ones on the ACA, LGBTQ+ rights vs. religious liberty, and student speech.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 14, 2021 • 6:25:18am

re: #26 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

anyone who’d pay $1200 to see Kid Rock and Ted Nugent deserves to be scammed

Three categories of “Trump supporters”:

1) People who just enjoy evoking a rise out of liberals and want to see how much they can get away with

2) The True Believers who take it all at face value

3) Cynics and scammers who see see through it but still also see it as a chance to make a buck or advance their agenda

4) People on Social Security and especially disability benefits who have OANN, Newsmax , Fox, Right Wing Jesus or Hate Radio blaring in the background when they call our office reciting Q shit and threatening Joe, Kamala and Nancy.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 14, 2021 • 6:43:12am

Fuck You, Ron Johnson!

CNN 06 14 2021 08 30 14

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A Cranky One  Jun 14, 2021 • 6:43:23am

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Dangerman  Jun 14, 2021 • 6:44:16am

re: #60 Dangerman

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Oh wait she didn’t say infection or virus or bacteria
She said “fatal illness”
So is every fatal illness is a man made bioweapon?
And even if so..ie leukemia, god made man and man made All the fatal illnesses???
So god lost control of the mankind he created
Whose the proximate cause?

Imma go back to laughing on the floor

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jun 14, 2021 • 6:47:30am

Clear Food - the Hot Dog Report

Hygienic issues: Clear Food found human DNA in 2% of the samples. 2/3rds of the samples with human DNA were vegetarian products.

Eeeek! This is clearly a problem with process contamination rather than with the, uh, feed stock.

I hope.

Then again, maybe they mean these products were made FROM vegetarians rather than FOR vegetarians.

“We use only the finest free-range fruit and nut fed hippies and moonbats in our new line of Alferd Packer’s Finest hot dogs. Cheese chunk, barbecue, and plain Democrat flavors. Pick up a pack for your next cook-out or shooting party. And for your long term preparation needs try our new Cthulhu’s Choice combat sausage and tactical jerky products, vaccuum packed in surplus Russian ammo cans, with a guaranteed shelf life of 500 years. Delicious and peculiarly satisfying!”

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Dangerman  Jun 14, 2021 • 6:53:08am

Fwiw

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 14, 2021 • 6:55:55am

re: #29 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

There are some great slow-mo clips out there of Wasabi, but I thought full speed was much better

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That’s not a dog, that’s a tribble.

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2021 • 6:56:58am

Right now, nearly all new hospitalizations for covid19 are among those who weren’t vaccinated. Breakthrough cases among vaccinated are rare - 1 in a million. So, that means you’ll see close to 100% of the cases in most places occurring among unvaccinated people.

They’ve self-selected the right to get covid19, get sick enough to be hospitalized, get sick enough to require ICU space, or die. Dumbasses. All of them are dumbasses who bought into the disinformation from Trump and right wing news sources without realizing that the propagandists themselves were going to be among the first to get vaccinated, lie about the consequences of not getting vaccinated, and otherwise manipulate the know nothing base into being an ongoing vector for new variants that might not be covered by the current batch of vaccines.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:02:55am

re: #73 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

LOL

“Made from 100%, free-range Vegans!”

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:04:26am

re: #76 lawhawk

Well I can say that I have both shots so I am not a part of that 30% who have chosen not to get the shots. I still think that within the next few months we will have to get in line again to get a “booster” for COVID-19.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:07:11am

re: #76 lawhawk

No. I’m tired of this attitude from people. Yes, I agree that people who make a choice not to get vaccinated are self-centered assholes. But crucially, not everyone who is unvaccinated has a choice. There are people with conditions that make it unsafe for them to receive the COVID-19 vaccine. Until and unless we work around this, all blanket statements about “fuck the unvaccinated” are targeting some innocent people along with the assholes.

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Dangerman  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:07:18am

today is the day the united states puts out its flags to honor mr and mrs dm’s 12th wedding anniversary.

we smooched the bonds at 12 noon on 6/14/09

she says she’d do it again

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:07:27am

re: #35 Dread Pirate Ron

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Video

And this children, is why we cross all the t’s and dot all the i’s when it comes to the charging circuits (DD01, microcontroller, etc) and the more current capable it is, the more attention we pay to the BMS (battery management system).

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:09:45am

re: #80 Dangerman

My little flag is in my window and will be there all day until sunset.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:10:09am

re: #81 Teukka

And this children, is why we cross all the t’s and dot all the i’s when it comes to the charging circuits (DD01, microcontroller, etc) and the more current capable it is, the more attention we pay to the BMS (battery management system).

And we shouldn’t bring our bikes inside…

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:13:33am

re: #83 JOE 🥓

And we shouldn’t bring our bikes inside…

Indeed.

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darthstar  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:15:14am
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Eventual Carrion  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:15:25am

re: #80 Dangerman

today is the day the united states puts out its flags to honor mr and mrs dm’s 12th wedding anniversary.

we smooched the bonds at 12 noon on 6/14/09

she says she’d do it again

Ours is on the 18th (22 years)

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:17:27am

re: #79 Dopamine Fish

No. I’m tired of this attitude from people. Yes, I agree that people who make a choice not to get vaccinated are self-centered assholes. But crucially, not everyone who is unvaccinated has a choice. There are people with conditions that make it unsafe for them to receive the COVID-19 vaccine. Until and unless we work around this, all blanket statements about “fuck the unvaccinated” are targeting some innocent people along with the assholes.

The self selecting 30% referred to are the GOPers who are refusing to get it on ideological grounds that doesn’t care about anyone or anything other than their political leanings and refusal to vaccinate (or mask) because right wing outfits have led them down this path.

They don’t give a fuck about those who are immunocompromised who can’t get vaccinated, or who had adverse reactions to vaccinations in the past, or who are advised not to get vaccinated by health experts.

The whole point of getting to herd immunity (remember when that was an actual thing among right wingers who thought letting covid19 burn through communities made sense - it never did, but let’s put that aside for the moment) is that it helps protect those who aren’t able to get vaccinated from getting covid19. That means children under 12 (thus far, as they’re doing the studies to see if they can administer vaccines to children as young as 6 months safely), those with underlying medical conditions, immunocompromised, etc. are protected when enough people in a community are vaccinated.

These anti-vaxxers are delaying herd immunity. They’re delaying and extending the crisis in the US because they refuse to vaccinate to protect themselves and others. They open the door to new variants. They open the door to breakthrough infections because the disease is still circulating in the general population.

My anger and ire is directed solely at those fuckers - not at those who are physically unable to get vaccinated for legitimate health reasons.

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darthstar  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:17:31am

re: #35 Dread Pirate Ron

Holy shit. He’s lucky it blew away from him.

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Egregious Philbin  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:19:25am

re: #83 JOE 🥓

I have 2 electric bikes, never had a problem with charging! I’d like to know who manufactured that battery.

And yeah, I have to keep the bikes indoors, no garage to lock them in, too many bike thiefs here, and, I don’t want to store my bike or battery outside on a day like today, its going to be 114 degrees today, and 118 tomorrow!

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darthstar  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:19:55am
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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:20:29am

Two S.Ct. cases handed down. Both unanimous:

In Greer v. United States, the justices held 9-0 that, in felon-in-possession cases, an error under Rehaif v. United States is not a basis for plain-error relief unless the defendant first makes a sufficient argument or representation on appeal that he would have presented evidence at trial that he did not in fact know he was a felon.

In Terry v. United States, the justices held 9-0 that a sentence reduction under the First Step Act is available only if an offender’s prior conviction of a crack cocaine offense triggered a mandatory minimum sentence.

Summaries via Scotusblog.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:20:48am

re: #87 lawhawk

Meanwhile Shithead Scott Atlas continues to practice his quackery and faces no action to terminate his license to practice medicine.

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:21:27am

re: #91 lawhawk

The Court also indicated that they’ll be handing down opinions on Thursday. So, expect to see more cases this week, and twice a week through the end of the month as they whittle down the number of cases remaining to be announced.

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:23:03am

re: #89 Egregious Philbin

I have 2 electric bikes, never had a problem with charging! I’d like to know who manufactured that battery.

And yeah, I have to keep the bikes indoors, no garage to lock them in, too many bike thiefs here, and, I don’t want to store my bike or battery outside on a day like today, its going to be 114 degrees today, and 118 tomorrow!

I’d want to know more about the charger, and if they tinkered with the settings to try and make it charge faster than the system could handle. The guy was lucky he didn’t get incinerated by the battery fire - looked like Drogon’s breath.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:32:53am

In today’s episode of STUPID TREK:

Helpful hint—If you appear in You Tubes for Prager U don’t participate in the 1/6 coup!

An actor who has appeared in the Netflix series “Ratched” as well as in videos for conservative PragerU had his home raided by FBI agents last week possibly related to his appearance at the Jan 6th Capitol insurrection, reports the Mercury News.

The home of Siaka Massaquoi — who was filmed inside the halls of Congress during the riot — was the site of the early morning raid, with the report stating no arrests were made.

According to Mercury News, “Massaquoi can be seen in a video posted the day of the Capitol attack by Tim Gionet, a far-right activist arrested after he was seen lounging in Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s office. The video shows Massaquoi just inside a door to the Capitol with his phone out, recording the crowd of rioters facing off with a line of police in riot gear.”

Score another fuckup for Baked Alaska…who still remains out of jail…

rawstory.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:33:23am
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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:34:42am

re: #78 PhillyPretzel

Well I can say that I have both shots so I am not a part of that 30% who have chosen not to get the shots. I still think that within the next few months we will have to get in line again to get a “booster” for COVID-19.

The mRNA ones seem to be standing up well to variants. I wonder if my son who got the J&J one will have to get one of the others later.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:37:53am

re: #97 Belafon

I got the Pfizer shots.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:39:22am

Wow such fragility. Where is that fighting spirit that conquered continents, enslaved millions and genocided entire nations?

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:40:58am

re: #97 Belafon

The mRNA ones seem to be standing up well to variants. I wonder if my son who got the J&J one will have to get one of the others later.

I have similar concerns. I don’t mind getting a booster or even going through another series, I just need to know.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:41:44am

re: #98 PhillyPretzel

I got the Pfizer shots.

My wife and I got Moderna, two of my sons got Pfizer, and one got J&J. The only side effect for any of us was a headache from J&J that lasted most of the day. Other than the fact that I don’t want to experiment on my family to see which one is best, we’ve covered the range of vaccines.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:42:16am
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Teukka  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:42:34am

re: #94 lawhawk

I’d want to know more about the charger, and if they tinkered with the settings to try and make it charge faster than the system could handle. The guy was lucky he didn’t get incinerated by the battery fire - looked like Drogon’s breath.

This is anecdotal, but I’ve seen videos on YouTube about many cheap versions where the cells not having DD01’s (overcharge/over-discharge protection chip) and lack of a proper BMS (TL;DR apart from the fat plus and minus wires you have thin wires between every cell to the BMS, to monitor the charge state of each cell individually, as well as being able to individually discharge cells to balance them).
Unbalanced cells, overcharge, and over-discharge are the main reasons for Li cell failure, including catastrophic failure. There’s this saying in the electronics sphere:
“If you overcharge Lithium cells, they will catch fire. If you over-discharge Lithium cells, they will catch fire. If you as much as look at them cross-eyed, they will catch fire.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:42:50am

No.
No he does not

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:43:35am

re: #99 The Pie Overlord!

Wow such fragility. Where is that fighting spirit that conquered continents, enslaved millions and genocided entire nations?

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I see white guys in a lot of commercials.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:44:43am

And we have a double header of STUPID TREK today folks!

A New Hampshire man who admits he chugged wine after joining the mob at the Capitol riot says he is running against Congresswoman Anne Kuster. There are a couple of problems, though. One, Jason Riddle thought Kuster was a state representative until a reporter for NBC Boston informed him on camera that she is actually a U.S. representative. Two, Riddle is currently facing federal charges in connection with the Jan. 6 insurrection and is banned from the nation’s capital. But Riddle—who claims to have no regrets about breaking into the Capitol and drinking wine he found in a Senate office—said he doesn’t think his legal problems will turn off voters. “In the long run, if you’re running for office, any attention is good attention, so I think it will help me,” he said.

thedailybeast.com

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:45:05am

re: #85 darthstar

The scapegoat who in their “right wing warrior” culture is supposed to take the blame and fall on her own sword for the greater cause.

The problem with this is the “greater cause” of the right wing elite is to do whatever it takes to advance your own personal station in life at any cost. She is going to flip quickly once she has no other way out and no chance of a pardon.

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mmmirele  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:46:44am

Expect massive amounts of asshat behavior from white male ecclesiasts this week. (long thread)

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jaunte  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:47:17am

re: #99 The Pie Overlord!

When you can’t figure out what to do unless a commercial tells you.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:47:19am

Breyer needs to do the right thing
Right now
And the Senate should confirm his replacement in record-breaking time

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:47:26am

re: #105 Belafon

I see white guys in a lot of commercials.

White men are about 30-35% or so of the overall population in the US.

For Conservative white men anything less than 100% of the representation proves their case of “oppression.”

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:49:19am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:49:32am

re: #99 The Pie Overlord!

Wow such fragility. Where is that fighting spirit that conquered continents, enslaved millions and genocided entire nations?

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JOE 🥓  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:54:45am

re: #108 mmmirele

Expect massive amounts of asshat behavior from white male ecclesiasts this week. (long thread)

In other words it’s gonna be par for the course for both of these tax-exempt scams.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:56:06am

re: #108 mmmirele

nytimes.com

‘Take the Ship’: Conservatives Aim to Commandeer Southern Baptists

The insurgents, some adopting a pirate motif, believe that the denomination has drifted too far to the left on issues of race, gender and the strict authority of the Bible.

Next week more than 16,000 Southern Baptist pastors and leaders will descend on Nashville for their first annual meeting of the post-Trump era. It is their most high-profile gathering in years, with attendance more than double the most recent meeting in 2019, after a pandemic cancellation last year. It caps months of vicious infighting over every cultural and political division facing the country, particularly after the murder of George Floyd.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:57:08am

re: #99 The Pie Overlord!

Wow such fragility. Where is that fighting spirit that conquered continents, enslaved millions and genocided entire nations?

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Must have been really tough on those white people picking all that cotton and vegetables in the hot southern sun. They need a rest.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:57:33am

In other news, apparently my Ring has decided that my American flag is a person. That’s unusual. I suppose it might have a problem with me keeping it in the closet.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:57:51am

re: #115 Belafon

nytimes.com

So it’s the Reactionaires vs. the Fascists in the Southern Fried Baptist Family Feud which is the usual shit that goes down at their clambakes.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:57:54am
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steve_davis  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:58:41am

re: #50 Belafon

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“it’s trying to change the spike protein….” It’s not trying to do shit. It’s all just God throwing dice into the dark corners.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:59:36am

re: #120 steve_davis

“it’s trying to change the spike protein….” It’s not trying to do shit. It’s all just God throwing dice into the dark corners.

“God does not play dice with the Universe.” -Albert Einstein
“Roll a perception check.” -God

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Jay C  Jun 14, 2021 • 7:59:53am

re: #73 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Clear Food - the Hot Dog Report

So “Ground Chuck” is actually….Chuck?

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JOE 🥓  Jun 14, 2021 • 8:04:48am

re: #122 Jay C

So “Ground Chuck” is actually….Chuck?

If it’s Chuck Wollery I’m quitting burgers for good!

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2021 • 8:07:53am

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 14, 2021 • 8:12:19am

re: #120 steve_davis

“it’s trying to change the spike protein….” It’s not trying to do shit. It’s all just God throwing dice into the dark corners.

And there is no reason that one of the millions of random changes that occur daily in this virus cannot simultaneously make it better at evading the vaccine AND adhering to human lungs.

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2021 • 8:13:12am

re: #103 Teukka

Made a twitter thread of the Li battery respect thing…

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 14, 2021 • 8:16:13am

re: #125 Hecuba’s daughter

And there is no reason that one of the millions of random changes that occur daily in this virus cannot simultaneously make it better at evading the vaccine AND adhering to human lungs.

I think virologists have been saying that there are reasons for this. Basically, the virus would have to become an entirely new virus in order for it to do something differently. The Delta variant seems to be better at doing both than the original virus and the Alpha variant, but I’ve been hearing from various articles cited on Twitter that the virus is relatively limited in how it can change and still do damage.

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SerialUpDinger  Jun 14, 2021 • 8:30:00am

Seems like the whole array of emotions are touched in every thread of every day. From feel-good to anger with lots of animal images to to keep me reading and scrolling down to find more feel-good.
Here is my contribution to the thread.
I am using this new plugin for Lightroom call Topaz Sharpen. The effects reveal details that I always thought were in the images. Feels like that period of time when you get new speakers/amp/preamp/cartridge and work your way thru the record collection to hear those details you missed on the previous one thousand listenings.
For the absolute best view this link to my Flickr account will have it: flic.kr
Anyone else tried this plugin?

Davidson’s Penstemon - Penstemon davidsonii
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JOE 🥓  Jun 14, 2021 • 8:31:30am

one more day for California to reopen.

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wrenchwench  Jun 14, 2021 • 8:34:00am

re: #128 SerialUpDinger

I’m a photography ignoramus, but I like what I see. I really like the Greek and Latin in the caption. Clarifies everything!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 14, 2021 • 8:34:44am

re: #127 Dopamine Fish

I think virologists have been saying that there are reasons for this. Basically, the virus would have to become an entirely new virus in order for it to do something differently. The Delta variant seems to be better at doing both than the original virus and the Alpha variant, but I’ve been hearing from various articles cited on Twitter that the virus is relatively limited in how it can change and still do damage.

I think an appropriate analogy would be like different vehicle bodies with the same engine inside. Since the vaccine knows how to target and disable that type of engine, it will continue to be effective no matter how the outside of the car looks.

It’s if the engine changes considerably at some point, then we might have a problem.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 14, 2021 • 8:39:12am

re: #78 PhillyPretzel

Well I can say that I have both shots so I am not a part of that 30% who have chosen not to get the shots. I still think that within the next few months we will have to get in line again to get a “booster” for COVID-19.

So far, the vaccine is holding up, even in the people who got vaccinated very early (exceeding expectations in this, as it did in protection level). However, Attention Is Being Paid. Fauci was saying probably not before the end of the year if then. But there’s no way of knowing except to keep monitoring it.

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SerialUpDinger  Jun 14, 2021 • 8:40:00am

re: #130 wrenchwench

This is one of the plant names that is kind of amusing - reversing the order - just because? This plant was found at 10,500 feet of elevation on Mammoth Mountain in the state of California. At this elevation the trees do not grow as tall and most plants find little nooks in the rocks to eke out a living. The colors of the flowers are a cheerful reminder that the world is a beautiful place and take your mind off the heavy breathing as you ascend upwards!

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 14, 2021 • 8:40:52am

re: #79 Dopamine Fish

No. I’m tired of this attitude from people. Yes, I agree that people who make a choice not to get vaccinated are self-centered assholes. But crucially, not everyone who is unvaccinated has a choice. There are people with conditions that make it unsafe for them to receive the COVID-19 vaccine. Until and unless we work around this, all blanket statements about “fuck the unvaccinated” are targeting some innocent people along with the assholes.

Fuck the willfully unvaccinated? (But I agree.)

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 14, 2021 • 8:42:44am
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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 8:42:50am

re: #125 Hecuba’s daughter

And there is no reason that one of the millions of random changes that occur daily in this virus cannot simultaneously make it better at evading the vaccine AND adhering to human lungs.

That was the point of the original tweets: the vaccines are creating antibodies that are looking at the protein used for attaching. The virus could find some change, but these particular vaccines are going to make that hard to do compared to vaccines that would create antibodies that look at other parts of the virus.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 14, 2021 • 8:44:41am
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JOE 🥓  Jun 14, 2021 • 8:48:44am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 14, 2021 • 8:55:57am

re: #138 JOE 🥓

I’m at work so I can’t access the link right now. I’ll have to check it out later. Sounds wild.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:01:49am
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JOE 🥓  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:05:31am

re: #140 Belafon

…but McConnell did…

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:05:35am

re: #127 Dopamine Fish

I think virologists have been saying that there are reasons for this. Basically, the virus would have to become an entirely new virus in order for it to do something differently. The Delta variant seems to be better at doing both than the original virus and the Alpha variant, but I’ve been hearing from various articles cited on Twitter that the virus is relatively limited in how it can change and still do damage.

The vaccine acts on the part of the virus that lets it infiltrate human cells, so by changing that, the virus inactivates itself as well as the vaccine.

Or so it was explained to me…

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:07:19am

re: #128 SerialUpDinger

Thank you for all your flower photos.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:10:54am

Oh, and happy Monday, everyone!

Hang in there!
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:11:09am

re: #130 wrenchwench

I’m a photography ignoramus, but I like what I see. I really like the Greek and Latin in the caption. Clarifies everything!

During vacation my niece was using some app on her phone to identify plants. Some very good identifications done, at other times it boiled down to “it’s an oak!”.

Penstemons were an area where it was not able to get very specific.

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danarchy  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:11:11am

re: #83 JOE 🥓

And we shouldn’t bring our bikes inside…

I am getting solar panels and was looking at getting one of those battery walls, to provide backup during a power outage or overnight. Unfortunately it seems my town has a new ordinance that requires those to be installed in a detached garage or other detached nonliving space.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:12:16am

re: #141 JOE 🥓

…but McConnell did…

If we don’t start seriously fighting back on this shit we’re going to end up with a 9-0 Conservative SCOTUS by the time the GOP is through.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:12:43am

re: #137 JOE 🥓

True for the admirers of the Lost Cause. Remember, 74 million of our fellow citizens voted for this monster.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:13:35am

re: #145 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I use PictureThis. It’s pretty good, but it’s does barf on IDing sub-species of trees a lot.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:14:26am

Did my grocery shopping today for the first time since before Memorial Day.

Since then about 30% of the shoppers in the local Wegmans have decided they no longer need to bother wearing masks. All the employees are still fully masked up.

Interestingly enough, all the maskless were middle-aged white people.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:14:42am

re: #110 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

And Manchin and Sinema are perfectly okay with McConnell’s anti-democratic boasts.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:18:51am

re: #142 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

The vaccine acts on the part of the virus that lets it infiltrate human cells, so by changing that, the virus inactivates itself as well as the vaccine.

Or so it was explained to me…

Why assume that it cannot modify that route to evade detection and still be lethal and infective? Of course, it doesn’t do that deliberately; it just mutates— less successful mutations do not spread, more successful ones take over. Of course, it could also mutate to something less lethal, even if more infectious — indeed, the virus may “prefer” a variety that doesn’t kill the host since that leave more people available for infection.

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danarchy  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:20:07am

re: #150 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Did my grocery shopping today for the first time since before Memorial Day.

Since then about 30% of the shoppers in the local Wegmans have decided they no longer need to bother wearing masks. All the employees are still fully masked up.

Interestingly enough, all the maskless were middle-aged white people.

Masks are pretty much the exception not the rule around here now, I went out yesterday and forgot to even stick a mask in my pocket just in case. It is actually pretty awesome.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:20:54am

re: #153 danarchy

Masks are pretty much the exception not the rule around here now, I went out yesterday and forgot to even stick a mask in my pocket just in case. It is actually pretty awesome.

Same here. Now granted, my area has more than its fair share of maskholes, so I imagine that many of the people around here aren’t vaccinated and are just taking advantage of the mask mandate expiring.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:21:17am

I will still be wearing a double mask on the job and most likely when shopping.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:22:00am

re: #151 Patricia Kayden

And Manchin and Sinema are perfectly okay with McConnell’s anti-democratic boasts.

That’s why it’s critical to keep Manchin and Sinema on Team Blue because as weak as their loyalty is to the Blue causes, it does allow Team Blue to control the agenda and have appointments approved. McConnell in charge means no federal Democratic judges at any level ever again.

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danarchy  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:22:21am

re: #154 Dopamine Fish

Same here. Now granted, my area has more than its fair share of maskholes, so I imagine that many of the people around here aren’t vaccinated and are just taking advantage of the mask mandate expiring.

I am in MA, the vast majority of adults have been vaccinated, and even a large number of kids over 12.

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:22:40am

re: #153 danarchy

I think masking is a function of proximity to high covid19 cases during the worst of the pandemic. We’re still seeing a lot of masking in Northern NJ, but the further south you go in NJ, fewer mask. Bergen County was a nexus of cases at the outset, and we’re still leery of covid19 so that habit is going to be harder to break than somewhere there were few cases (absolute number or per capita). Here, there’s a lot of people who know someone who got covid19 or died (or both). That is a sobering reality.

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:23:18am

re: #156 Hecuba’s daughter

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:23:26am

re: #154 Dopamine Fish

Same here. Now granted, my area has more than its fair share of maskholes, so I imagine that many of the people around here aren’t vaccinated and are just taking advantage of the mask mandate expiring.

Down in New Mexico the general rule seemed to be that if you were vaccinated you did not have to wear one. We generally were wearing them inside public places in any case.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:23:35am

re: #50 Belafon

Here’s the good news from Gottlieb: The virus probably can’t escape our vaccines, because the vaccines target the protein that lets the virus attach to the human respiratory tract.

It’s a nasty dilemma for the virus, and a crucial advantage for humans and our vaccine developers.

That was my main concern: that a new strain would develop that was unaffected by our vaccines. Glad to hear that only remotely likely.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:25:25am

re: #157 danarchy

I am in MA, the vast majority of adults have been vaccinated, and even a large number of kids over 12.

I live in MN, the state has 64% of age 12+ and my county is at 74%. It’s just that in my specific part of my county, the people are mostly Trump-humpers, so I suspect that the vaccination numbers are lower out here. Though, I will say, despite being wingnuts, a number of the people I work with at church did tell me they got vaccinated, so they’re not all anti-vaxxer idiots like my in-laws.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:28:26am

Yet another stunt from Crackhead Mike!

Mike Lindell invites Chinese Communist Party to ‘cyber symposium’ for ‘gladiator fight’ on election

Mike Lindell invites Chinese Communist Party to ‘cyber symposium’ for ‘gladiator fight’

LOCK CRACKHEAD MIKE UP!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:29:24am

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))


Here’s the good news from Gottlieb: The virus probably can’t escape our vaccines, because the vaccines target the protein that lets the virus attach to the human respiratory tract.

It’s a nasty dilemma for the virus, and a crucial advantage for humans and our vaccine developers.

That was my main concern: that a new strain would develop that was unaffected by our vaccines. Glad to hear that only remotely likely.

Yes, it may be a crucial advantage for now, but Gottlieb represents the hubris of humanity: Thinking that somehow we can escape the genius of evolution. It’s like Aesop’s fable of the tortoise and the hare, where evolution is the tortoise.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:34:54am

re: #164 Hecuba’s daughter

Yes, it may be a crucial advantage for now, but Gottlieb represents the hubris of humanity: Thinking that somehow we can escape the genius of evolution. It’s like Aesop’s fable of the tortoise and the hare, where evolution is the tortoise.

The idea is to be over Covid before it can mutate into something more virulent, deadly or resistant.

But that requires herd immunity…oh well.

Safe money is always on the tortoise.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:35:43am

re: #152 Hecuba’s daughter

Why assume that it cannot modify that route to evade detection and still be lethal and infective? Of course, it doesn’t do that deliberately; it just mutates— less successful mutations do not spread, more successful ones take over. Of course, it could also mutate to something less lethal, even if more infectious — indeed, the virus may “prefer” a variety that doesn’t kill the host since that leave more people available for infection.

If the only way you have of evading the door alarm breaks the key, then you have a problem. (And I don’t recall saying anything about the virus acting with purpose.)

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JOE 🥓  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:35:53am

Count on Prager U to beat the race drum 24/7

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:36:54am

re: #106 JOE 🥓

And we have a double header of STUPID TREK today folks!

A New Hampshire man who admits he chugged wine after joining the mob at the Capitol riot says he is running against Congresswoman Anne Kuster. There are a couple of problems, though. One, Jason Riddle thought Kuster was a state representative until a reporter for NBC Boston informed him on camera that she is actually a U.S. representative. Two, Riddle is currently facing federal charges in connection with the Jan. 6 insurrection and is banned from the nation’s capital. But Riddle—who claims to have no regrets about breaking into the Capitol and drinking wine he found in a Senate office—said he doesn’t think his legal problems will turn off voters. “In the long run, if you’re running for office, any attention is good attention, so I think it will help me,” he said.

thedailybeast.com

Gohmerta = the GOP code of Stupidity

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:38:25am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Gohmerta = the GOP code of Stupidity

New Werd!

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wrenchwench  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:38:42am

re: #164 Hecuba’s daughter

Yes, it may be a crucial advantage for now, but Gottlieb represents the hubris of humanity: Thinking that somehow we can escape the genius of evolution. It’s like Aesop’s fable of the tortoise and the hare, where evolution is the tortoise.

Aesop’s been replaced.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:38:46am

re: #112 lawhawk

BREAKING: Attorney General Merrick Garland has referred the Trump DOJ’s abuse of subpoenas to the Inspector General.

payback time

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danarchy  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:39:24am

re: #165 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The idea is to be over Covid before it can mutate into something more virulent, deadly or resistant.

But that requires herd immunity…oh well.

Safe money is always on the tortoise.

Covid isn’t like smallpox or polio. There is no wiping it out. It is a cross species virus so even if we got to heard immunity there will always be a reservoir of it out there in the animal kingdom continuing to mutate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:40:31am

re: #113 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I’m watching a lot of “regular TV”—There are no WHITE MEN in any commercials. Apparently, overnight, we’ve lost our interest in CARS, FINANCE, PERSONAL HYGIENE, FURNITURE, PETS, VACATIONS, SOFT DRINKS, INSURANCE, PHARMACEUTICALS, HOME REPAIR, EXERCISE, AMUSEMENT PARKS, HOTELS, CL

So explain how these people’s rights or livelihoods are being impacted by their “lack of representation” in commercial advertising spots.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:41:46am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So explain how these people’s rights or livelihoods are being impacted by their “lack of representation” in commercial advertising spots.

Lack of constant center stage in all facets of media crushes their fragile egos?
///

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:42:00am

re: #158 lawhawk

I think masking is a function of proximity to high covid19 cases during the worst of the pandemic. We’re still seeing a lot of masking in Northern NJ, but the further south you go in NJ, fewer mask. Bergen County was a nexus of cases at the outset, and we’re still leery of covid19 so that habit is going to be harder to break than somewhere there were few cases (absolute number or per capita). Here, there’s a lot of people who know someone who got covid19 or died (or both). That is a sobering reality.

In my little town, covid has infected about 3% of the population (against the national average of about 10%, and mask discipline is still happening, although it’s getting lax for people walking the sidewalks. (I attribute our very low case count to high compliance with the rules, plus a generous dollop of luck — we weren’t hit in the first wave, like NY or Italy). Masks are still required indoors. So proximity to infection can’t be the whole story.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:42:05am

re: #172 danarchy

A real MF’er of a virus.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:42:34am

re: #167 JOE 🥓

Count on Prager U to beat the race drum 24/7

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White people commit crime, black people commit crime, Asian people commit crime, Native American people commit crime. What needs to be talked about is the uneven response from police depending on who commits the exact same crimes.

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:43:14am

re: #176 PhillyPretzel

A real MF’er of a virus.

It’s not for nothing I refer to it as the “Crowned Bastard™“…

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:44:05am

re: #178 Teukka

That is another way of putting it.

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wrenchwench  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:44:46am

re: #174 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Lack of constant center stage in all facets of media crushes their fragile egos?
///

The white people are starting to feel erased. Then they look at themselves, and they LOOK erased! Panic sets in, and they work harder to erase everyone else.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:45:28am

re: #172 danarchy

Covid isn’t like smallpox or polio. There is no wiping it out. It is a cross species virus so even if we got to heard immunity there will always be a reservoir of it out there in the animal kingdom continuing to mutate.

Mutating in the animal kingdom doesn’t necessarily make it more dangerous to us — though it may be for bats, or ferrets, or whatever. From a virus POV, the perfect host is one who survives and can be repeatedly re-infected. Not that a virus actually has a POV.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:45:36am

re: #172 danarchy

Covid isn’t like smallpox or polio. There is no wiping it out. It is a cross species virus so even if we got to heard immunity there will always be a reservoir of it out there in the animal kingdom continuing to mutate.

Yep. There was an article published a few days back called “The Forever Virus”, which is an apt moniker. COVID-19 is here to stay, yet another of the endemic diseases we deal with.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:46:37am

Reality Winner, the ex-NSA contractor convicted of leaking a report about Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election, has been released from prison

businessinsider.com

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:48:43am

re: #172 danarchy

Covid isn’t like smallpox or polio. There is no wiping it out. It is a cross species virus so even if we got to heard immunity there will always be a reservoir of it out there in the animal kingdom continuing to mutate.

Well… viruses very like covid are certainly out there, but in fact we don’t yet know whether such a reservoir exists for this particular virus — tracing the path of the virus to humans is ongoing and will probably take a long time (took 13 years for SARS). Since we have to remain on our guard against zoonotic covid viruses anyway, this might not matter much.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:52:18am

re: #167 JOE 🥓

Black crime? What about White crime? Or Asian crime? Blacks aren’t the only ones who commit crimes. Plus, those killed by the police aren’t always criminals. The last time I checked, the justice system involves the concept of “innocent until proven guilty”. The police aren’t supposed to act as judges and executioners.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:53:23am

re: #182 Dr Lizardo

Yep. There was an article published a few days back called “The Forever Virus”, which is an apt moniker. COVID-19 is here to stay, yet another of the endemic diseases we deal with.

foreignaffairs.com

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Teddy's Person  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:53:42am

Ran a couple of errands yesterday - Trader Joes and Petco. Both stores had signs out saying that fully vaccinated people need not wear a mask. Everyone in both stores were wearing masks. My county has an almost 70% rate for fully vaccinated people aged 16 and over.

A year or so before the pandemic there were some measles cases in area schools. A measles scare closed the high school around the corner from me for two days so everyone could check their vaccination status and get vaccinated if needed. I think this woke up some of the anti-vax people in the area.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:54:01am

re: #158 lawhawk

I think masking is a function of proximity to high covid19 cases during the worst of the pandemic. We’re still seeing a lot of masking in Northern NJ, but the further south you go in NJ, fewer mask. Bergen County was a nexus of cases at the outset, and we’re still leery of covid19 so that habit is going to be harder to break than somewhere there were few cases (absolute number or per capita). Here, there’s a lot of people who know someone who got covid19 or died (or both). That is a sobering reality.

I really think it has to do with the same divide that is mapped when you talk about support for gun regulation. Cities tend to want more gun regulation because people are close together. Mask wearing, regardless of state, is at a much higher per capita rate inside urban areas than outside. Guess where the parties are represented.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:54:28am

re: #183 JOE 🥓

Reality Winner, the ex-NSA contractor convicted of leaking a report about Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election, has been released from prison

businessinsider.com

Thank you Chluthu!! That’s great news!!

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danarchy  Jun 14, 2021 • 9:55:54am

re: #184 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Well… viruses very like covid are certainly out there, but in fact we don’t yet know whether such a reservoir exists for this particular virus — tracing the path of the virus to humans is ongoing and will probably take a long time (took 13 years for SARS). Since we have to remain on our guard against zoonotic covid viruses anyway, this might not matter much.

we know covid has infected cats, dogs, etc. Denmark culled millions of mink because of a cluster there. Whether it started in bats or whatever, we know it is in many species, whether those species are good enough hosts to keep a reservoir active who knows.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:00:21am

re: #164 Hecuba’s daughter

Yes, it may be a crucial advantage for now, but Gottlieb represents the hubris of humanity: Thinking that somehow we can escape the genius of evolution. It’s like Aesop’s fable of the tortoise and the hare, where evolution is the tortoise.

His comments also represent a pretty large set of evidence related to viruses since our development of vaccines. Name one that, since we development a vaccine, that has killed in great numbers.

Yes, there’s a probability that it could find some mutation that gets around our current vaccines, but it’s going to have a hard time. And it does look like, over the year and a half that we’ve been dealing with it, that it doesn’t have the same mutating abilities that the flu does.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:00:26am

Speaking of white crime.

Here’s a thought, don’t negotiate a plea deal and set a date for his trial.

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wrenchwench  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:00:42am

re: #187 Teddy’s Person

Ran a couple of errands yesterday - Trader Joes and Petco. Both stores had signs out saying that fully vaccinated people need not wear a mask. Everyone in both stores were wearing masks. My county has an almost 70% rate for fully vaccinated people aged 16 and over.

A year or so before the pandemic there were some measles cases in area schools. A measles scare closed the high school around the corner from me for two days so everyone could check their vaccination status and get vaccinated if needed. I think this woke up some of the anti-vax people in the area.

I had my immunity to measles checked before I moved to the PNW. There’s a freakish gap in the area of time in which I was originally vaxxed, in which the vax was changed, then changed again to fix it. A few people may not have gotten a good dose. My antibodies were off the chart. Good to know.

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Dangerman  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:01:24am

re: #144 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Oh, and happy Monday, everyone!

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determination!

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aatharuv  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:03:52am

re: #183 JOE 🥓

Reality Winner, the ex-NSA contractor convicted of leaking a report about Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election, has been released from prison

businessinsider.com

F*!@#$k a certain Rio de Janeiro resident for enticing people into thinking he could be trusted to do basic information scrubbing and then getting them in prison due to his incompetence.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:09:17am

For some reason, this seems apt for the last year.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:09:20am

re: #174 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Lack of constant center stage in all facets of media crushes their fragile egos?
///

nailed it

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:10:35am

re: #167 JOE 🥓

You cannot have an honest discussion about police conduct without an honest discussion of black police crime.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:11:27am

re: #192 Teddy’s Person

Speaking of white crime.

Here’s a thought, don’t negotiate a plea deal and set a date for his trial.

If the defendant gets a trial date, due to the reported intransigence, gonna make it difficult for the court to agree to set bond.

Good chance the defendant will wait trial in jail.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:11:36am

Was doing the google to see if there was any data below the county level about vaccines here in Washington state.

Found out that for my zip code 72.5% of people 12 and older are fully vaccinated (82.3% have at least one dose).

Yay us!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:14:08am

re: #177 Eventual Carrion

White people commit crime, black people commit crime, Asian people commit crime, Native American people commit crime. What needs to be talked about is the uneven response from police depending on who commits the exact same crimes.

A standard argument is that “Blacks represent 10% of the population but 30% of jail inmates.”

This presupposes that law enforcement is some totally automatic and objective process which is not influenced by racial attitudes, and that arrest and incarceration rates among racial groups equal actual crime rates more or less one-to-one.

That is as unfounded a proposition as it is the assertion that relative scores on written intelligence tests reflect relative intelligence one-to-one.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:14:56am

re: #199 BeenHereAwhile

Good chance the defendant will wait trial in jail.

You’ve provided me the opportunity to us my new favorite meme.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:16:04am

I also wonder if the mRNA technique could be applied to the flu the same way. But that is definitely out of my realm of knowledge.

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ericblair  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:16:39am

re: #188 Belafon

I really think it has to do with the same divide that is mapped when you talk about support for gun regulation. Cities tend to want more gun regulation because people are close together. Mask wearing, regardless of state, is at a much higher per capita rate inside urban areas than outside. Guess where the parties are represented.

Yeah, I’m not so sure that rural or semi-rural areas are functionally less dense than cities. It’s not like people stand spread out in cornfields all day. You still go to the grocery store, the restaurant, the coffee place, the church, and everywhere else; it’s just a longer drive between those places than it is in urban areas.

A lot of people thought that COVID wasn’t going to spread in rural areas for just this reason.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:17:22am

Quite the change from the PDS being along the line of “the president is very busy and will have lots of meetings.”

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:18:28am

re: #203 Belafon

I also wonder if the mRNA technique could be applied to the flu the same way. But that is definitely out of my realm of knowledge.

There was a report on mRNA vaccines in clinical trials besides just COVID. Off the top of my head:
* Flu
* HIV (!!!)
* CMV
* RSV

Moderna also has, in development:
* Zika
* Malaria (!!!)
* Hepatitis C

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danarchy  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:18:32am

re: #202 Teddy’s Person

You’ve provided me the opportunity to us my new favorite meme.

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I get Grogu is cuter than Yoda, but I don’t think he ever actually spoke

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:18:39am

re: #205 Teddy’s Person

Quite the change from the PDS being along the line of “the president is very busy and will have lots of meetings.”

This is the President of someone who is Presiding and not just residing at the White house.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:18:51am

re: #206 Dopamine Fish

contagionlive.com

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No Malarkey!  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:19:10am

You have to appreciate how brutally honest Mitch is in his contempt for bipartisanship that Democrats keep blathering about. Someone please show this to Justice Breyer, who needs to retire after the current term.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:19:28am

re: #196 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

For some reason, this seems apt for the last year.

Always loved this Wizard of OZ movie review:

Transported to a surreal landscape, a young girl kills the first person she meets,
and then teams up with three strangers to kill again.

-Rick Polito-

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:20:19am

re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A standard argument is that “Blacks represent 10% of the population but 30% of jail inmates.”

This presupposes that law enforcement is some totally automatic and objective process which is not influenced by racial attitudes, and that arrest and incarceration rates equal actual crime rates more or less one-to-one.

That is as unfounded a proposition as it is the assertion that relative scores on written intelligence tests reflect relative intelligence one-to-one.

Black Neighborhoods Are Overpoliced Song Lyrics Tiktok

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Dangerman  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:26:15am

re: #165 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The idea is to be over Covid before it can mutate into something more virulent, deadly or resistant.

But that requires herd immunity…oh well.

Safe money is always on the tortoise.

Or run a smarter rabbit

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:28:06am

re: #210 No Malarkey!

You have to appreciate how brutally honest Mitch is in his contempt for bipartisanship that Democrats keep blathering about. Someone please show this to Justice Breyer, who needs to retire after the current term.

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I think if no hearings take place, Biden should put in an “interim” justice and dare Congress to do something about it.

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Dangerman  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:30:31am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So explain how these people’s rights or livelihoods are being impacted by their “lack of representation” in commercial advertising spots.

Why I gotta watch all these people who are not like me?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:33:02am

re: #215 Dangerman

Why I gotta watch all these people who are not like me?

I remember when I first watched Black Panther, I thought it was a pretty good movie. But I thought about all the black kids that would watch it and be thrilled to see heroes on the screen who look like THEM. It’s just a whole different level I could never understand because white heroes have been the norm for generations.

And it’s not like they are going away. Just because culture is becoming more diverse doesn’t mean there’s no room for white people. They’re just not all over the place like they were before.

Apparently, that bothers certain white folks.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:33:14am

re: #215 Dangerman

Why I gotta watch all these people who are not like me?

For the very few among us that earn income by appearing in ads, it does affect their livelihoods if suddenly it’s respectable to cast others in commercials. Suddenly they are facing more competition and their personal revenue stream may be significantly reduced.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:36:20am

re: #217 Hecuba’s daughter

For the very few among us that earn income by appearing in ads, it does affect their livelihoods if suddenly it’s respectable to cast others in commercials. Suddenly they are facing more competition and their revenue stream may be significantly reduced.

It’s a good thing that commercials now look like our nation, and is better for overall sales of products but let’s face it, these are the same complaints that we’ve heard for years from those who resent that it’s no longer legal to discriminate in hiring.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:43:25am
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Dangerman  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:45:44am

re: #205 Teddy’s Person

Quite the change from the PDS being along the line of “the president is very busy and will have lots of meetings.”

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Tfg’s pds was a transparent insult to everyone who was forced to read it

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:46:06am

1863 - 1865 Old Glory 35 Stars Circle Civil War flag

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Dangerman  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:48:25am

re: #210 No Malarkey!

You have to appreciate how brutally honest Mitch is in his contempt for bipartisanship that Democrats keep blathering about. Someone please show this to Justice Breyer, who needs to retire after the current term.

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Mr manchin, white courtesy telephone please…

(and thats besides what every R State legislature is doing in your face right now

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:49:44am

re: #219 DodgerFan1988

Almost makes me sad that TFG is off of the bird app. Watching him get dragged with her release on his BD would have been glorious.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:51:23am

re: #215 Dangerman

Why I gotta watch all these people who are not like me?

I remember the kerfuffle over Mad Max Fury Road.

To me it was clearly a matter of marketing: the thinking being “Guys are gonna come see a Mad Max movie if it has enough wild-ass fantasy chop jobs, crazy exploding car chases and flaming guitars, so what can we do to get more women to come see it?

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Dangerman  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:51:38am

re: #216 Eclectic Cyborg

I remember when I first watched Black Panther, I thought it was a pretty good movie. But I thought about all the black kids that would watch it and be thrilled to see heroes on the screen who look like THEM. It’s just a whole different level I could never understand because white heroes have been the norm for generations.

And it’s not like they are going away. Just because culture is becoming more diverse doesn’t mean there’s no room for white people. They’re just not all over the place like they were before.

Apparently, that bothers certain white folks.

You want more white people in commercials?
Buy more. Lots more.
Oh wait, you can’t? Not enough of you and you don’t have enough money?… So sad

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Citizen K  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:51:41am

re: #210 No Malarkey!

You have to appreciate how brutally honest Mitch is in his contempt for bipartisanship that Democrats keep blathering about. Someone please show this to Justice Breyer, who needs to retire after the current term.

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re: #222 Dangerman

Mr manchin, white courtesy telephone please…

[Embedded content]

(and thats besides what every R State legislature is doing in your face right now

Meanwhile, most of the responses in my timeline are along the lines of once again blaming Dems for this and insinuating that the entirety of the Dem party is a tamed opposition that secretly wants this to happen and is allowing it to happen. You know, forget how the minuscule margin we control the Senate by allowing one or two Dem senators to fuck up and upend everything. Forget the media continuing to be one of the major reasons why Dems have to play the bipartisanship lip service game while the GOP gets to run roughshod over everything with plaudits and praises of their brilliant gamesmanship. Forget how plainly anti-majoritarian our institutions have clearly been exposed to be.

Nope, it’s clearly all the Dems fault because they have the Green Lantern ring and could wish this all away and they haven’t, thus they’re really the right-wing roadblock preventing any and all progress.

EDIT: Oh, I forgot, there’s also the difference in difficulty in getting shit done, and doing nothing. The GOP is content to let nothing happen because it suits them fine and allows them to coast off the inherent institutional advantage they so enjoy. Meanwhile, Dems actively have to get shit done, which means scrounging for ground they can gain, whipping for votes, and having to resort to bloodless pragmatism and pandering at times just so they can actually get some kind of movement. All of which can be so spectacularly stymied by the GOP going ‘LOL NO U’ and then the media acting like Dems are just that much more inferior to the inherent superiority of the GOP governance decree.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:52:28am

re: #223 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Almost makes me sad that TFG is off of the bird app. Watching him get dragged with her release on his BD would have been glorious.

Guests attending the next wedding at Bedminster will get an earful.

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Dangerman  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:53:48am

re: #217 Hecuba’s daughter

For the very few among us that earn income by appearing in ads, it does affect their livelihoods if suddenly it’s respectable to cast others in commercials. Suddenly they are facing more competition and their personal revenue stream may be significantly reduced.

Yeah but the actors aren’t the ones doing the complaining
An no actor is guaranteed work, they age, change, aren’t cute, get typecast
Or the reverse ..get discovered late

And sorry, buggy whips

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JOE 🥓  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:55:43am

re: #219 DodgerFan1988

PS—Fuck Glenn Greenwald for throwing Reality under the bus for Trump.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:56:39am

re: #227 Teddy’s Person

Guests attending the next wedding at Bedminster will get an earful.

You know that makes me wonder how many moved their weddings to another venue because of that shit.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:58:55am

re: #206 Dopamine Fish

There was a report on mRNA vaccines in clinical trials besides just COVID. Off the top of my head:
* Flu
* HIV (!!!)
* CMV
* RSV

Moderna also has, in development:
* Zika
* Malaria (!!!)
* Hepatitis C

The HIV and malaria ones are huge. We’re going to need to give African nations the ability to produce them.

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2021 • 10:58:56am

re: #230 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Or how many moved their wedding *to* Bedminster for the purpose of having Trump “crash” the party. People were picking Bedminster before this knowing who Trump was and what he stands for. They’ll still do it even now.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:02:14am

Just seeing this.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:03:26am

re: #230 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

You know that makes me wonder how many moved their weddings to another venue because of that shit.

I would suspect that Trump’s 4 years in the White House already culled that pool. People booking weddings/events at Trump’s Tacky Flophouses are probably hoping the old geezer shuffles in to regale their guests with bullshit-laden musings. I wonder how long it will take for one of the Trump Spawn to decide they should charge extra for this in-house entertainment.

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Dangerman  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:03:31am

the saga of one pound of home smoked lox

half pound went to mom, of course
so we each got 1/4 pound - just enough for a fresh whole wheat everything bagel

it was outstanding (as usual)

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:03:39am

re: #232 lawhawk

Or how many moved their wedding *to* Bedminster for the purpose of having Trump “crash” the party. People were picking Bedminster before this knowing who Trump was and what he stands for. They’ll still do it even now.

I was talking about *SANE*people. Not the whack jobs who want to brag about tfg “appearing” at their wedding. Those people are a lost cause in and of themselves.

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aatharuv  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:04:14am

re: #231 Belafon

The HIV and malaria ones are huge. We’re going to need to give African nations the ability to produce them.

If they’re like the existing mRNA vaccines, the ability to _store_ them is even more crucial. The Moderna vaccine needs to be stored at about -20C, and the Pfizer vaccine needs to be stored at -70C. You need refrigeration units that can handle the deep freezes and have a completely reliable source of 24/7 power. I’m sure the big cities will have medical facilities that can handle this, but this will be much harder for rural areas.

I believe that Moderna is working on reducing the requirements for their vaccines, which will certainly make it more _storeable_.

Edit: Belafon mentions downthread that this is outdated info, and that both Pfizer and Moderna can be stored in a normal refrigerator (36-46 F). — for a month according to the CDC.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:04:19am

re: #216 Eclectic Cyborg

I remember when I first watched Black Panther, I thought it was a pretty good movie. But I thought about all the black kids that would watch it and be thrilled to see heroes on the screen who look like THEM. It’s just a whole different level I could never understand because white heroes have been the norm for generations.

And it’s not like they are going away. Just because culture is becoming more diverse doesn’t mean there’s no room for white people. They’re just not all over the place like they were before.

Apparently, that bothers certain white folks.

The white guy who ran the gym I went to for a while would not see Captain Marvel because she wasn’t like him. I knew it was an important movie at that point.

The thing is, gaining superpower by having some blow up that you shoot at would be the most likely way they’re going to get superpowers. They’re too dumb to be Tony or Bruce and too scared to be Steve or Bucky.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:10:24am

re: #237 aatharuv

They have raised the temps quite a bit. It is now safe to store them between 36 and 46F.

cdc.gov

fda.gov.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:11:27am

By the way, David’s younger sister and fellow Stoneman Douglas HS survivor has graduated.
Apparently she completed HS at Georgetown Day School in DC
I hope she has a vibrant future, and gets to see the NRA and MAGA fascists’ crushed and humiliated, as they have attempted to do the her

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Dave In Austin  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:12:38am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:14:22am

My Russian isn’t good enough to understand what’s being said, but I’m pretty sure it translates to, “Oh shit.”

Пожар в Новосибирске 2

Happened in Novosibirsk, Russia. Gas station explosion.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:21:27am

re: #242 Dr Lizardo

I can’t figure out what it was that came flying in from the explosion.

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aatharuv  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:21:44am

re: #239 Belafon

They have raised the temps quite a bit. It is now safe to store them between 36 and 46F.

cdc.gov

fda.gov.

That’s a game changer. I didn’t realize it had already been approved. Thanks for the info, and edited my comment accordingly.

All you need is a way to more easily get the vials to even relatively remote areas, and a refrigerator hooked up to a generator.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:27:57am

re: #243 Belafon

I can’t figure out what it was that came flying in from the explosion.

A gas pump? Looks about the right size.

Nice projectile. It went boom, too.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:29:49am

re: #243 Belafon

I can’t figure out what it was that came flying in from the explosion.

From what I read elsewhere, apparently, it was a propane tank.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:31:16am

re: #243 Belafon

I can’t figure out what it was that came flying in from the explosion.

re: #245 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

A gas pump? Looks about the right size.

Nice projectile. It went boom, too.

Looked a bit like a large propane/NG storage tank

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:35:13am

re: #244 aatharuv

That’s a game changer. I didn’t realize it had already been approved. Thanks for the info, and edited my comment accordingly.

All you need is a way to more easily get the vials to even relatively remote areas, and a refrigerator hooked up to a generator.

Definitely, but I also think, for Africa’s sake as a continent, they need to be able to produce it themselves. But we can definitely supply it while they can’t meet their needs.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:35:41am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:36:02am

re: #137 JOE 🥓

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:36:04am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:39:47am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:41:07am

re: #237 aatharuv

Change happens

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Allows More Flexible Storage, Transportation Conditions for Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine

Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration announced that it is allowing undiluted frozen vials of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine to be transported and stored at conventional temperatures commonly found in pharmaceutical freezers for a period of up to two weeks. This reflects an alternative to the preferred storage of the undiluted vials in an ultra-low temperature freezer between -80ºC to -60ºC (-112ºF to -76ºF). The change is being reflected in updates to the Fact Sheet for Healthcare Providers Administering Vaccine (Vaccination Providers).

FDA Eases Storage Restrictions for Moderna’s Covid-19 Vaccine

What’s more, the FDA now says that the vaccine can be administered for 12 hours after the vial has been punctured, up from six hours. And the vaccine can now be stored at room temperature for 24 hours, up from 12 hours.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:42:45am

re: #252 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:48:32am
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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:49:16am

re: #254 Punish Domestic Terrorists

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:53:50am

re: #255 lawhawk

SHOT. CHASER.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:53:52am

I went to the weed store on my lunch break. I was the only customer still wearing a mask out of consideration for the medical marijuana patients. Most people will not do the right thing unless forced to.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:56:42am
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Dopamine Fish  Jun 14, 2021 • 11:58:30am

re: #259 The Pie Overlord!

You want them, comrade? Come and get them. Oh, I forgot: You discard useful idiots after you’re done manipulating them. You taught Trump well.

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retired cynic  Jun 14, 2021 • 12:00:12pm

Merrick Garland has said some fine words. Now he needs to act. Jennifer Rubin
washingtonpost.com

She cuts him NO SLACK, and is quoting AOC to criticize the Justice Department. And rightly so!

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JOE 🥓  Jun 14, 2021 • 12:01:03pm

re: #260 Dopamine Fish

You want them, comrade? Come and get them. Oh, I forgot: You discard useful idiots after you’re done manipulating them. You taught Trump well.

Why don’t we round all of them up and fly them to Moscow and while we’re at it put Ron Johnson and all those traitors who refused to certify Joe’s election and send them on that one way ticket to Putinland as well! 😉

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 14, 2021 • 12:02:54pm

Lava is once again flowing into Nátthagi valley, from an overflowing Geldingadalir valley. A few minutes ago a bunch of very hot lava broke out of the crust and rushed downhill. You can see an emergency vehicle rushing towards the scene with flashing lights, no doubt to keep the hoomans from doing stoopid hooman things.

Scroll back until the in-video timer says 14:18:42 … the lave hits the bottom about five minutes later:

Geldingadalir Volcano, Iceland - Nátthagi camera

..

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aatharuv  Jun 14, 2021 • 12:07:00pm

re: #248 Belafon

Definitely, but I also think, for Africa’s sake as a continent, they need to be able to produce it themselves. But we can definitely supply it while they can’t meet their needs.

In the long run, yes. In the short run, the fact that they can distribute a more effective vaccine locally will help alot.

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aatharuv  Jun 14, 2021 • 12:08:01pm

re: #261 retired cynic

Merrick Garland has said some fine words. Now he needs to act. Jennifer Rubin
washingtonpost.com

She cuts him NO SLACK, and is quoting AOC to criticize the Justice Department. And rightly so!

Let’s not forget that Merrick Garland was put up for the Supreme Court as he was someone Obama thought enough Republicans would actually vote for.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2021 • 12:08:52pm

re: #259 The Pie Overlord!

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I wonder if he’d same the same thing about a black man beating up a cop?

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No Malarkey!  Jun 14, 2021 • 12:14:05pm

re: #222 Dangerman

Mr manchin, white courtesy telephone please…

(and thats besides what every R State legislature is doing in your face right now

Manchin is the heat shield for all the Democrats who don’t want to reform the filibuster. He is fine with that, because WV.

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Citizen K  Jun 14, 2021 • 12:17:12pm

I’m getting exhausted by folks, many of whom have exhaustively catalogued the institutional roadblocks and barriers that Dems face in order to do anything, damning Dems for not immediately doing away with said roadblocks by sheer will. As well as making collective aspersions on the entirety of the party when it’s clear that only one or two bad actors can muck things up.

It keeps running into the same thing I keep talking about: In America, no matter what, something is somehow the fault of the Dem party. Even when it’s all the GOP’s fault, it somehow is the Dems’ fault instead.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 14, 2021 • 12:19:13pm

re: #265 aatharuv

Let’s not forget that Merrick Garland was put up for the Supreme Court as he was someone Obama thought enough Republicans would actually vote for.

He likely would have been confirmed IF McConnell allowed the nomination to come to a vote. It’s McConnell who feared that there were a few Republicans who actually believed in approving thoughtful moderate nominees of good character — or at least believed in approving them when they represented purple states who might not take kindly to a rejection of such a nominee..

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A Three Hour Tour  Jun 14, 2021 • 12:34:20pm

re: #160 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Down in New Mexico the general rule seemed to be that if you were vaccinated you did not have to wear one. We generally were wearing them inside public places in any case.

Even though I don’t *need* to according to CDC guidance, I still double-mask when going to the store. Given the degree of mask-resistance and vaccine hesitancy in my county, I was pleasantly surprised to see as many people still masked up that I have once I started venturing out.

I do, however, no longer feel automatic panic when I encounter an unmasked person these days.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 14, 2021 • 1:08:12pm

re: #262 JOE 🥓

Why don’t we round all of them up and fly them to Moscow and while we’re at it put Ron Johnson and all those traitors who refused to certify Joe’s election and send them on that one way ticket to Putinland as well! 😉

The main problem with this theory is that these asshats will quickly turn on Putin when they realize they don’t speak English and have no desire to adapt to THEIR norms… oh- yeah- and the fact that gun rights in Russia are comparatively draconian.


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