It's True: The Universe Is Hostile to Computers

It’s True: The Universe Is Hostile to Computers

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Tiny particles from distant galaxies have caused plane accidents, election interference and game glitches. This video is sponsored by Brilliant. The first 200 people to sign up via https://brilliant.org/veritasium get 20% off a yearly subscription.

This video was inspired by the RadioLab Podcast “Bit Flip” https://ve42.co/BF — they’re brilliant science storytellers.

A Huge thanks to Dr Leif Scheick, Calla Cofield and the JPL Media Relations Team.

Thanks to Col Chris Hadfield. Check out his book: https://chrishadfield.ca/books/

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J. F. Ziegler, “Terrestrial cosmic rays,” in IBM Journal of Research and Development, vol. 40, no. 1, pp. 19-39, Jan. 1996, doi: 10.1147/rd.401.0019. — https://ve42.co/Ziegler1996

D. Binder, E. C. Smith and A. B. Holman, “Satellite Anomalies from Galactic Cosmic Rays,” in IEEE Transactions on Nuclear Science, vol. 22, no. 6, pp. 2675-2680, Dec. 1975, doi: 10.1109/TNS.1975.4328188 https://ve42.co/Binder1975

Ziegler, J. F., & Lanford, W. A. (1979). Effect of cosmic rays on computer memories. Science, 206(4420), 776-788 https://ve42.co/Ziegler1979

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Hess, V. (2018). On the observations of the penetrating radiation during seven balloon flights. arXiv preprint arXiv:1808.02927. —https://ve42.co/Hess2018

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Edmonds, L. D., Barnes, C. E., & Scheick, L. Z. (2000). An introduction to space radiation effects on microelectronics. Jet Propulsion Laboratory, National Aeronautics and Space Administration. — https://ve42.co/Edmonds2000

NASA Mars 2020 website covering the specifications of the Perseverance Rover https://ve42.co/RoverBrains

Australian Government Australian Transport Safety Bureau report on QF72 — https://ve42.co/ASTBQantas

Australian Government Australian Transport Safety Bureau summary on QF72 —https://ve42.co/ASTBQantas2

Great Blog post about QF72 — https://ve42.co/DempseyQantas

Michael Barr’s report on the Toyota acceleration issue —https://ve42.co/Barr2015

NASA’s Report on Toyota — https://ve42.co/NASAToyota

T. C. May and M. H. Woods, “A New Physical Mechanism for Soft Errors in Dynamic Memories,” 16th International Reliability Physics Symposium, 1978, pp. 33-40, doi: 10.1109/IRPS.1978.362815. —https://ve42.co/May1978

P. M. O’Neill and G. D. Badhwar, “Single event upsets for Space Shuttle flights of new general purpose computer memory devices,” in IEEE Transactions on Nuclear Science, vol. 41, no. 5, pp. 1755-1764, Oct. 1994, doi: 10.1109/23.317386. — https://ve42.co/ONeill1994

Wikipedia about radiation hardening — https://ve42.co/RadHardening

Toward Monitoring Fault-Tolerant Embedded
Systems (Extended Abstract) — https://ve42.co/Goodloe2009

Article about speed run — https://ve42.co/BurttSpeedrun

Article about speed run — https://ve42.co/BountySpeedrun

Article about redundant systems in spaceflight — https://ve42.co/NASAComputers

Article about the PowerPC750 — https://ve42.co/Wener-FlignerNASA

Fuglesang C, Narici L, Picozza P, Sannita WG. Phosphenes in low earth orbit: survey responses from 59 astronauts. Aviat Space Environ Med. 2006 Apr;77(4):449-52. PMID: 16676658. — https://ve42.co/Fuglesang2006

Good article about Cosmic Rays causing flashes — https://ve42.co/AtkinsonEye

Good article about radiation resistance — https://ve42.co/RoverResistance

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b.d. (War Is Over! Cough Louder Conservatives!) Aug 31, 2021 • 8:01:43pm

The War Is Over!

Thank You President Biden!

wrenchwench Aug 31, 2021 • 8:07:00pm

Thanks to Col Chris Hadfield.

Space Oddity

Belafon Aug 31, 2021 • 8:07:56pm

Because of the tweets from the last thread, I set up a small monthly donation to the Lilith Fund.

Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo Aug 31, 2021 • 8:10:07pm

We have some linen towels that my grandmother embroidered on before she died in the early 1950s. My mom added some embroidery, too. (More of these are with cousins.)

There’s an aluminum pot of my mom’s from the 1950s, too. https://t.co/OpXJqevvlR

— Harry Turtledove (@HNTurtledove) September 1, 2021

I still have the silverware set my father and stepmother gave us when my first wife and I married in 1973. I also have a beautiful hand made quilt my great-great grandmother made in the early 1900s but I don’t use it very often.

Jay C Aug 31, 2021 • 8:15:40pm

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I have a lidded casserole I bought from the outlet in the old Helms Bakery building in LA when I moved to my first apartment in 1971. It’s marked “Royal Something-or-other 1810” (needless to say it’s not that old!), and I still use it regularly
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Rightwingconspirator Aug 31, 2021 • 8:17:17pm

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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I still have the silverware set my father and stepmother gave us when my first wife and I married in 1973. I also have a beautiful hand made quilt my great-great grandmother made in the early 1900s but I don’t use it very often.

Old knives and cast iron.

William Lewis Aug 31, 2021 • 8:20:53pm

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wrenchwench Aug 31, 2021 • 8:25:33pm

re: #6 Rightwingconspirator

Old knives and cast iron.

We have a coffee cup from a company that was shut down by its owner when the workers unionized. Restaurant-ware collection. Most of it is Shenango. That collection preceded the cast iron.

A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp! Aug 31, 2021 • 8:26:01pm

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I can’t tell you how old my oldest stuff is because I’m afraid I’ll jinx it.

Decatur Deb Aug 31, 2021 • 8:34:37pm

re: #8 wrenchwench

We have a coffee cup from a company that was shut down by its owner when the workers unionized. Restaurant-ware collection. Most of it is Shenango. That collection preceded the cast iron.

A couple Sabatier knives we bought for our first apartment 54 years ago. Older, but not our purchase, is a pile of inherited cast iron going back to the turn of the (other) century.

wrenchwench Aug 31, 2021 • 8:37:33pm

re: #10 Decatur Deb

A couple Sabatier knives we bought for our first apartment 54 years ago. Older, but not our purchase, is a pile of inherited cast iron going back to the turn of the (other) century.

Mr. w used to research cast iron by the mfgs’ marks on them. Hasn’t done any of that since we moved.

EstebanTornado1963 Aug 31, 2021 • 8:41:07pm

paddleyourownkanoo.com

“The union recently threatened to picket the airline over the winter because of the failure to reach a new collective bargaining agreement, as well as the possibility that Southwest could mandate COVID-19 vaccines for pilots.”

No sympathy from me. Many pilots are right wing assholes, I know we’ll from my 26 yrs in the FAA. The last paragraph proves my point.

More examples

Southwest Airlines pilot caught on hot mic bad-mouthing liberals

CNN: Pilot attacks gays, overweight in rant

Hecuba's daughter Aug 31, 2021 • 8:41:40pm

re: #1 b.d. (War Is Over! Cough Louder Conservatives!)

The War Is Over!

Thank You President Biden!

TFG is probably grinding his teeth — he laid traps for Biden in Afghanistan and thought Biden couldn’t handle the situation at all — instead Biden managed (so far) to extract our troops and over 100,000 civilians. The 13 American lives and 170 Afghan lives lost were a tragic consequence of the brutality of Taliban’s opponents.

We’ll see if the Taliban continue to cooperate so that other citizens and allies will make it out. But Biden will be getting the accolades for ending the war, not Trump. Ann Coulter is certainly doing her best to transfer all glory to to 46. Let’s hope the the MSM eventually accords Biden the respect he deserves for this accomplishment.

Decatur Deb Aug 31, 2021 • 8:42:28pm

re: #11 wrenchwench

Mr. w used to research cast iron by the mfgs’ marks on them. Hasn’t done any of that since we moved.

None of ours are primo collector’s items, but a couple are really cool, like a flat griddle with an integral grease ring, and a six-wedge cornbread maker.

sagehen Aug 31, 2021 • 8:44:32pm

When I moved into what had been my grandparents’ apartment, the kitchen cabinets and drawers were full of all the stuff they got on their wedding registry (1928). Cast iron pots and pants, silverware, serving platters, crystal glasses.

The crystal stays in the cabinet, and grandma sent the good china to my mother in about 1980, but I still use the cooking gear.

There’s a cheese slicer I’m particularly fond of, a wooden base and a wire-on-a-handle that goes up and down. Sorta similar to this:

wrenchwench Aug 31, 2021 • 8:47:01pm

re: #15 sagehen

There’s a cheese slicer I’m particularly fond of, a wooden base and a wire-on-a-handle that goes up and down. Sorta similar to this:

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I’d rather have one of those than any counter-top electrical device.

Rightwingconspirator Aug 31, 2021 • 8:50:12pm

re: #16 wrenchwench

re: #15 sagehen

I’d rather have one of those than any counter-top electrical device.

That’s great to have. In my case, my cheese slicer looks exactly like my good chef’s knife.

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Aug 31, 2021 • 8:50:35pm

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I still have the silverware set my father and stepmother gave us when my first wife and I married in 1973. I also have a beautiful hand made quilt my great-great grandmother made in the early 1900s but I don’t use it very often.

Not appliance: Cherry kitchen table, 1880s.
Appliance: Sunbeam vacuum coffee maker, 1943.

Decatur Deb Aug 31, 2021 • 8:52:45pm

re: #17 Rightwingconspirator

That’s great to have. In my case, my cheese slicer looks exactly like my good chef’s knife.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin Aug 31, 2021 • 8:55:04pm

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I have cast iron pans from the late 19th century.

No Malarkey! Aug 31, 2021 • 8:56:10pm

I was gullible enough to believe the lies about wmd in Iraq. I’ll never trust a Republican again.

— aagcobb (@aagcobb1) September 1, 2021

Rightwingconspirator Aug 31, 2021 • 8:56:37pm

Since we inherited the house I have taken a look at a lot of older stuff. We easily have service for 25 for thanksgiving. An immense turkey baking pan. On the stove it covers 2 burners. The plates and bowls and cups are cabinets full and must be 60 years old.

Decatur Deb Aug 31, 2021 • 8:58:08pm

re: #22 Rightwingconspirator

Since we inherited the house I have taken a look at a lot of older stuff. We easily have service for 25 for thanksgiving. An immense turkey baking pan. On the stove it covers 2 burners. The plates and bowls and cups are cabinets full and must be 60 years old.

When the CV shit is over, you’ll want to put it all to the party test.

wrenchwench Aug 31, 2021 • 8:58:17pm

re: #17 Rightwingconspirator

That’s great to have. In my case, my cheese slicer looks exactly like my good chef’s knife.

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I’d take the chef’s knife over the cheese cutter. Ours are Zwilling.

cat-tikvah Aug 31, 2021 • 8:58:36pm

re: #12 EstebanTornado1963

My brother was a controller for decades; Washington Center.

Belafon Aug 31, 2021 • 8:59:35pm

re: #23 Decatur Deb

When the CV shit is over, you’ll want to put it all to the party test.

We all will have back birthdays and holidays to finally celebrate.

EPR-radar Aug 31, 2021 • 9:01:43pm

re: #12 EstebanTornado1963

If United has a vax mandate in place and Southwest doesn’t by the time I travel for Xmas this year, then I’ll fly United.

And I hate United.

Targetpractice Aug 31, 2021 • 9:02:26pm

re: #13 Hecuba’s daughter

TFG is probably grinding his teeth — he laid traps for Biden in Afghanistan and thought Biden couldn’t handle the situation at all — instead Biden managed (so far) to extract our troops and over 100,000 civilians. The 13 American lives and 170 Afghan lives lost were a tragic consequence of the brutality of Taliban’s opponents.

We’ll see if the Taliban continue to cooperate so that other citizens and allies will make it out. But Biden will be getting the accolades for ending the war, not Trump. Ann Coulter is certainly doing her best to transfer all glory to to 46. Let’s hope the the MSM eventually accords Biden the respect he deserves for this accomplishment.

Oh, Trump will continue to insist that he totally would have managed to thread the needle of getting everybody out without losing a single life and doing it by May with just 2,500 soldiers. He’ll just lean heavily upon it being a purely hypothetical, since there’s no way at all to prove he could have done it. It’s the drunk guy at the end of the bar insisting he could have been a major league ball player if he’d wanted, but he never got the chance and that’s why he crawled into a bottle and never came back out.

EstebanTornado1963 Aug 31, 2021 • 9:03:32pm

my gf “inherited” this from her grandma, she uses it more for spam

Decatur Deb Aug 31, 2021 • 9:06:10pm

re: #13 Hecuba’s daughter

Biden could not extract us from Afghanistan—if he operated like Trump did, pulling shit out of his ass and listening to the last moron in the reception line. Biden knows and trusts the governmental process. His staff gives him a force multiplier.

Egregious Philbin Aug 31, 2021 • 9:07:56pm

re: #12 EstebanTornado1963

Yeah, I did 14 years at an airline that was a regional, then a national, then a major, and now basically runs the largest airline in the country. Pilots can be real dicks. I did a lot of work with the black pilot association and you would be amazed how some white pilots really hated that we had 8 black pilots to their 1200 white guys…

teleskiguy Aug 31, 2021 • 9:08:46pm

A Little Soon To Say

Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo Aug 31, 2021 • 9:08:48pm

In my mind, the big change in LGF started in 2006, with a spat over creation/evolution. It showed a lot of us that many of our then-fellow lizards were batshit crazy. On top of that, I was in Iraq at the time getting a first hand look at how the Bush policies we supported were working, and not working, and what the cost of right wing government really was. I especially learned to hate the senile tyrant Donald Rumsfeld, who had delayed MRAP deployment because it just didn’t fit with his corporation-dictated procurement strategy. You don’t have to see many blown-up Humvees to really hate the bastard and every corrupt, stupid plot that he and his cronies were part of. Of course, corporations also made the MRAPs but they were part of an out-group in the military-industrial complex while Rummy was an insider’s insider.

Belafon Aug 31, 2021 • 9:11:45pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

Oh, Trump will continue to insist that he totally would have managed to thread the needle of getting everybody out without losing a single life and doing it by May with just 2,500 soldiers. He’ll just lean heavily upon it being a purely hypothetical, since there’s no way at all to prove he could have done it. It’s the drunk guy at the end of the bar insisting he could have been a major league ball player if he’d wanted, but he never got the chance and that’s why he crawled into a bottle and never came back out.

Hypothetical Reporter: And how many Afghans would you have gotten out of the country?
Trump: All of them, unlike Sleepy Joe.
Miller: *Whispers to Trump*
Trump: Actually, I meant none of them. But all of them.

Decatur Deb Aug 31, 2021 • 9:12:18pm

re: #29 EstebanTornado1963

With a depression to stabilize the slicee, that’s a contemporary egg slicer.

JOE 🥓 Aug 31, 2021 • 9:13:02pm

Looking to see if the corrupted court will intervene to stop or stay the TexASS abortion ban. It takes effect in about 45 minutes—Midnight Central Time…

JOE 🥓 Aug 31, 2021 • 9:15:07pm

Meanwhile Mike Flynn continues to whip up the anti-vaxers…

Mike Flynn continues escalating his rhetoric with very specific, dangerous signals appealing to white nationalists, apocalyptic dominionists and violent conspiracy cultists.

His latest messages constitute a call to various forms of holy war. #ArrestMikeFlynn

🧵 pic.twitter.com/uWjFMT2jA2

— Jim Stewartson, Antifascist, #RIPQ 🇺🇸🏴‍☠️ (@jimstewartson) September 1, 2021

Belafon Aug 31, 2021 • 9:20:17pm

re: #37 JOE 🥓

Meanwhile Mike Flynn continues to whip up the anti-vaxers…

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And very much like the Martians, the armor does nothing to protect them from a virus.

Decatur Deb Aug 31, 2021 • 9:22:53pm

Looks like the town is not going to get another storm tonight.

‘Nite, All.

CleverToad Aug 31, 2021 • 9:23:14pm

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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I still have the silverware set my father and stepmother gave us when my first wife and I married in 1973. I also have a beautiful hand made quilt my great-great grandmother made in the early 1900s but I don’t use it very often.

I have more old stuff in my kitchen than I have new. Inherited my mom’s kitchenware and much of her mother’s because I was the kid who stayed in town.

Oldest that I bought myself and use everyday — my Tupperware canister set in 1970’s green, orange and yellow. I saw them in a ‘78 catalog that turned up in my mom’s heaps of miscellaneous paper. Was highly amused to see the same set being sold for $50 at the “Mid-Century Modern” convention a couple of years ago. I also use Mom’s Tupperware cereal bowls from the 1960’s (and even have the lids).

Oldest working appliance — food processor room the ‘80’s.

My kid’s favorite — a trigger-style ice cream scoop that dates back to when I was a kid, early 60’s

Oldest inherited in fairly regular use:
— Grandma’s aluminum graters, 1950’s at the latest
— Grandma’s pie pans and loaf pans-1940’s & 50’s; Mom’s Pyrex casseroles 1960’s
— Mom’s yellow Fiestaware platter and her cast iron skillet, 1950’s

Stuff I need to get out and bake with this holiday season, to make some more memories for the kid:
— Cookie cutters from the 50’s and 60’s; Grandma’s cake pans, her krumkake iron and a fattigman cutter; a gingerbread cake mold

I have older gems in the china cabinet, like Mom’s Shirley Temple breakfast set, and the 1910’s fruit spoons that came in boxes of Sunkist oranges. But those don’t get used :)

JOE 🥓 Aug 31, 2021 • 9:23:41pm

Yes put on the Armor of God to protect yourself and your kids from the virus.

Ain’t gonna work!

BeachDem Aug 31, 2021 • 9:29:42pm

re: #31 Egregious Philbin

Yeah, I did 14 years at an airline that was a regional, then a national, then a major, and now basically runs the largest airline in the country. Pilots can be real dicks. I did a lot of work with the black pilot association and you would be amazed how some white pilots really hated that we had 8 black pilots to their 1200 white guys…

I just looked up an old friend who was a pilot for American and see that he got busted and thrown off his London/Chicago flight for being drunk in 2009—article said “the unfamiliar tipple was stronger than he was used to drinking.” Yah, right—the guy was a noted drinker. I remember another friend ended up on a flight he was piloting to the Caribbean and was scared shitless the whole time.

EPR-radar Aug 31, 2021 • 9:31:08pm

re: #37 JOE 🥓

Holy shit at the projection in that.

These fucking right wing nut jobs are begging for the Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God treatment from one of their own who has a road to Damascus moment.

The GOP is the single most powerful force for evil on the planet. It is their darkness vs. everyone else’s light. Republicans lie about everything, all the time and have done so relentlessly for at least the last 40 years. And it was Republicans who attempted a coup in order to install Trump as Dictator for Life.

JOE 🥓 Aug 31, 2021 • 9:34:36pm

re: #43 EPR-radar

Holy shit at the projection in that.

These fucking right wing nut jobs are begging for the Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God treatment from one of their own who has a road to Damascus moment.

The GOP is the single most powerful force for evil on the planet. It is their darkness vs. everyone else’s light. Republicans lie about everything, all the time and have done so relentlessly for at least the last 40 years. And it was Republicans who attempted a coup in order to install Trump as Dictator for Life.

Not a single one of these Xtian Pulpit Pimps will have a road to Damascus moment because they are all in to turn the US into a white supremacist theocracy.

Eclectic Cyborg Aug 31, 2021 • 9:35:46pm

re: #41 JOE 🥓

Yes put on the Armor of God to protect yourself and your kids from the virus.

Ain’t gonna work!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo Aug 31, 2021 • 9:36:30pm

re: #33 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

In my mind, the big change in LGF started in 2006, with a spat over creation/evolution. It showed a lot of us that many of our then-fellow lizards were batshit crazy. On top of that, I was in Iraq at the time getting a first hand look at how the Bush policies we supported were working, and not working, and what the cost of right wing government really was. I especially learned to hate the senile tyrant Donald Rumsfeld, who had delayed MRAP deployment because it just didn’t fit with his corporation-dictated procurement strategy. You don’t have to see many blown-up Humvees to really hate the bastard and every corrupt, stupid plot that he and his cronies were part of. Of course, corporations also made the MRAPs but they were part of an out-group in the military-industrial complex while Rummy was an insider’s insider.

I’ve mentioned before that the group I worked for (as a sub-contractor) supplied us with a South African built MRAP of our own. Their CEO had seen one run over a big IED. The explosion blew the front wheels off and wrecked the drivetrain but the 7 people inside didn’t have a scratch (soiled pants were another story). He paid cash for 3 of them in South Africa and had them flown to Iraq in an AN-124.

JOE 🥓 Aug 31, 2021 • 9:39:20pm

re: #45 Eclectic Cyborg

Looks like Knights Templar cosplay.

Targetpractice Aug 31, 2021 • 9:40:15pm

re: #44 JOE 🥓

Not a single one of these Xtian Pulpit Pimps will have a road to Damascus moment because they are all in to turn the US into a white supremacist theocracy.

It’s not that they can’t experience such a moment, so much as they’ll never admit if they do because such would mean immediate excommunication from the cult.

Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo Aug 31, 2021 • 9:43:28pm

re: #42 BeachDem

I just looked up an old friend who was a pilot for American and see that he got busted and thrown off his London/Chicago flight for being drunk in 2009—article said “the unfamiliar tipple was stronger than he was used to drinking.” Yah, right—the guy was a noted drinker. I remember another friend ended up on a flight he was piloting to the Caribbean and was scared shitless the whole time.

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EPR-radar Aug 31, 2021 • 9:46:32pm

re: #48 Targetpractice

It’s not that they can’t experience such a moment, so much as they’ll never admit if they do because such would mean immediate excommunication from the cult.

But it is somewhat amusing to imagine one of them truly being born again.

A Pulpit Pimp that is completely convinced that repudiating his former profession as effectively as possible is the only way to avoid an eternity spent hip-deep in molten lead would be wonderful to behold.

teleskiguy Aug 31, 2021 • 9:50:54pm

I see SteelPH is lurking. I see you, buddy. 😏

BeachDem Aug 31, 2021 • 9:51:45pm

re: #49 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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SteelPH Aug 31, 2021 • 9:51:46pm

re: #51 teleskiguy

I see SteelPH is lurking. I see you, buddy. 😏

I am merely a figment of your imagination.

Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo Aug 31, 2021 • 9:52:18pm

One of the real drawbacks of being an aviation nut is that the whole industry and culture are dominated by right wing assholes. It’s not as bad as if you’re a gun nut but it is part of the landscape, and pretty annoying at times.
Otoh, general aviation (ie private flying) does Darwinize a fairly consistent number of them, since their innate arrogance leads them to cut corners, try out unproven ideas, and generally think they know better than the experts. Sound familiar?

Egregious Philbin Aug 31, 2021 • 9:52:55pm

re: #42 BeachDem

Substance abuse among pilots is pretty high. So is creepy. We had a pilot nick named “Peek-a-boo” Lou (who was also a raving racist who tried to disrupt our diversity meetings). He had a reputation of trying to peer into flight attendant’s rooms through the windows…and he was an upskirter. Funny thing, he was also a terrible pilot, and both flight attendants and other pilots put him on their “don’t fly” lists so they could not be scheduled together. I think he has finally retired, he was a real A-hole.

teleskiguy Aug 31, 2021 • 9:53:13pm

re: #33 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I’m glad *you’re* around and sharing your shit. Thank you.

teleskiguy Aug 31, 2021 • 9:54:22pm

re: #53 SteelPH

I am merely a figment of your imagination.

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EPR-radar Aug 31, 2021 • 9:54:38pm

re: #33 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

In my mind, the big change in LGF started in 2006, with a spat over creation/evolution. It showed a lot of us that many of our then-fellow lizards were batshit crazy. On top of that, I was in Iraq at the time getting a first hand look at how the Bush policies we supported were working, and not working, and what the cost of right wing government really was. I especially learned to hate the senile tyrant Donald Rumsfeld, who had delayed MRAP deployment because it just didn’t fit with his corporation-dictated procurement strategy. You don’t have to see many blown-up Humvees to really hate the bastard and every corrupt, stupid plot that he and his cronies were part of. Of course, corporations also made the MRAPs but they were part of an out-group in the military-industrial complex while Rummy was an insider’s insider.

My loathing of creationists is one of the main things that stopped me from being a ‘good Republican’ back in my lean-R years.

If we define creationism as the belief that empirical evidence supports a single creation of all life on earth (and especially if that extends to a young earth itself), then it is intrinsically dishonest, since the evidence simply does not do that, and no amount of lying about it will change that conclusion.

JOE 🥓 Aug 31, 2021 • 10:02:55pm

Well It’s past midnight and the corrupted Court is letting the TexASS Kill Roe law take effect…

1:00a ET … still nothin. The Supreme Court has allowed SB 8 to take effect. (Of course, it could still rule at any time.)

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) September 1, 2021

JOE 🥓 Aug 31, 2021 • 10:04:30pm

Susan Collins concerned yet?

It is now after midnight central time and there has been no ruling from the Supreme Court on the Texas law that bans abortions after six weeks of pregnancy. That means the law has officially taken effect. An emergency request to block the law remains pending at SCOTUS.

— SCOTUSblog (@SCOTUSblog) September 1, 2021

Hecuba's daughter Aug 31, 2021 • 10:08:54pm

re: #58 EPR-radar

My loathing of creationists is one of the main things that stopped me from being a ‘good Republican’ back in my lean-R years.

If we define creationism as the belief that empirical evidence supports a single creation of all life on earth (and especially if that extends to a young earth itself), then it is intrinsically dishonest, since the evidence simply does not do that, and no amount of lying about it will change that conclusion.

I am somewhat confused by Pat Robertson’s views: he detests YEC, has stated the universe is about 14 billion years old and that dinosaurs went extinct about 50 million years ago , but he doesn’t believe that we evolved from lower forms of life. Maybe he believes that evolution applies to everything except humans?

plansbandc Aug 31, 2021 • 10:09:59pm

re: #35 Decatur Deb

mmm Sliced egg sandwiches…

mmmirele Aug 31, 2021 • 10:29:51pm

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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I still have the silverware set my father and stepmother gave us when my first wife and I married in 1973. I also have a beautiful hand made quilt my great-great grandmother made in the early 1900s but I don’t use it very often.

I have a rolling pin and some old, kinda rusty kitchen utensils and an old quilt top that belonged to my great grandmother from back in the 1930s. This great-grandmother lived most of her adult life in central Oklahoma. When her daughter, my grandmother, died in 1994, she was taken back to Oklahoma for burial in a tiny cemetery outside Stuart, Oklahoma, because she was from there and the funeral plot was free. I met some step-cousins (grandchildren of my great-grandmother from her second marriage) and one of them excused herself and came back with the rolling pin, utensils and quilt top. She handed them over to me and said, “these are yours.” I was rather startled.

Another cousin told me that my grandmother and her husband made the best choice possible to go to California in 1936 because the economy was horrible then and was still pretty bad in 1994 for rural Oklahomans who didn’t have oil rights or a decent farm. He was the county agent, so I figured he knew what he was talking about.

Oh, I’ve never used the rolling pin (but it is quite nice) and the utensils are interesting to look at. I’ve thought about finishing up the quilt top, but I think I’d need to do some work on it. It’s definitely utilitarian. Thanks for reminding me of the things I do have from my kinfolk.

Citizen K Aug 31, 2021 • 10:41:04pm

re: #60 JOE 🥓

Susan Collins concerned yet?

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So Roe is essentially dead in everything but on paper.

The GOP path to their eternal conservatopia is at hand, all thanks to the courts. It was a good run, I guess, but hey, the country has been hardwired for conservative rule for ages, might as well just not hide it anymore, right?

JOE 🥓 Aug 31, 2021 • 10:48:59pm

Did anyone expect the New York Times to chime in about Roe?

Nope. They’re too busy writing the latest hit pieces attacking Joe and his dog.

— The 3-D Zanti Regent (@josephebacon) September 1, 2021

JOE 🥓 Aug 31, 2021 • 10:51:14pm

[water course]
Somewhere, Kevin Williamson is asking for his job back at @TheAtlantic since his suggestion of hanging women who get abortions wasn’t that far off the mark from what Republicans actually believe they can get away with now.

— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) September 1, 2021

sagehen Aug 31, 2021 • 11:08:40pm

re: #58 EPR-radar

My loathing of creationists is one of the main things that stopped me from being a ‘good Republican’ back in my lean-R years.

If we define creationism as the belief that empirical evidence supports a single creation of all life on earth (and especially if that extends to a young earth itself), then it is intrinsically dishonest, since the evidence simply does not do that, and no amount of lying about it will change that conclusion.

rationalwiki.org

Last Thursdayism (alternately Last Tuesdayism or Last Wednesdayism) is the idea that the universe was created last Thursday, but with the physical appearance of being billions of years old. It’s also a counter to the creationism theory. Under Last Thursdayism, books, fossils, light already on the way from distant stars, and literally everything (including your memories of the time before last Thursday) were all formed at the time of creation (last Thursday) in a state such that they appear much older.

The debate on whether Last Thursdayism is true has raged on ever since the creation of the universe last Thursday.

Targetpractice Aug 31, 2021 • 11:18:41pm

re: #60 JOE 🥓

Susan Collins concerned yet?

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She’ll furrow her brow, then dodge the issue by saying that until the SCOTUS bench issues a final ruling next year, then Kavanaugh and Barrett haven’t yet violated their “promise” not to overturn RvW.

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Aug 31, 2021 • 11:51:01pm

re: #61 Hecuba’s daughter

I am somewhat confused by Pat Robertson’s views: he detests YEC, has stated the universe is about 14 billion years old and that dinosaurs went extinct about 50 million years ago , but he doesn’t believe that we evolved from lower forms of life. Maybe he believes that evolution applies to everything except humans?

Pat Robertson is an Old Earth creationist.

en.wikipedia.org

Old Earth creationists are found in many religious sects, not just Evangelicals. However, any form of creationism does not comport with the evidence. Old Earth creationism tries to position themselves as sort of a “middle ground” between religious assertions and scientific findings.

Probably the Old Earth creationist assertion heard most often in liberal Christian churches is the idea that God “guided” evolution (called progressive creationism). No evidence supports the assertion of any sort of “guide.”

Nyet Aug 31, 2021 • 11:51:05pm

Found this old article about the liar, grifter, and effectively a thief, Scott Dworkin.

motherjones.com

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 12:06:42am

Via Right Wing Watch, deeply-held religious beliefs I am somehow supposed to respect, from a wingnut Nebraska pastor.

‘Get a Brain’: Hank Kunneman Warns of Dire Consequences if Trump Is Not Reinstated

Right-wing pastor and self-proclaimed “prophet” Hank Kunneman kicked off his sermon Sunday by railing against the 2020 election, insisting that “anybody with a brain” knows that the election was stolen from former President Donald Trump. Kunneman insisted that if Trump is not reinstated to the White House, it’ll prove that “the evil agenda that Hell has” cannot be stopped and Christians could eventually see their churches shut down, their children take away, their wives raped, and everyone shipped off to concentration camps.

Kunneman has been one of the most obstinate of the supposed “prophets” who guaranteed that Trump would win the election and has petulantly refused to apologize for his false prophesy, instead promising that God will reward those who stand with him and attacking those who have dared to criticize him. That trend continued Sunday, when Kunneman attacked Right Wing Watch as “idiots” for steadfastly chronicling his myriad false statements and prophecies.

(much more at the link)

Targetpractice Sep 1, 2021 • 12:09:23am

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Via Right Wing Watch, deeply-held religious beliefs I am somehow supposed to respect, from a wingnut Nebraska pastor.

‘Get a Brain’: Hank Kunneman Warns of Dire Consequences if Trump Is Not Reinstated

(much more at the link)

“Christians could eventually see their churches shut down, their children take away, their wives raped, and everyone shipped off to concentration camps.”

“Could” is doing a lot of work to prop up that fantasy.

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 12:34:34am

AQI here is 40, but that is changing.

…DEGRADED AIR QUALITY UNTIL 1 PM MDT WEDNESDAY…

The following message is transmitted in collaboration with the
Nebraska Emergency Management Office.

WHAT…Degraded air quality from smoke from western wildfires.

WHERE…All Nebraska Panhandle counties.

WHEN…Through 1 PM MDT Wednesday afternoon.

IMPACTS…Heavy smoke from western wildfires will continue over the
Nebraska Panhandle through at least Thursday morning.

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 1, 2021 • 12:37:34am

re: #21 No Malarkey!

I was gullible enough to believe the lies about wmd in Iraq. I’ll never trust a Republican again.

I believed that Bush was erring on the side of caution by invading Iraq when he was just erring on the side of fascism…

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 1, 2021 • 12:38:45am

re: #28 Targetpractice

Oh, Trump will continue to insist that he totally would have managed to thread the needle of getting everybody out without losing a single life and doing it by May with just 2,500 soldiers.

It would have been a big beyootiful withdrawal and the Taliban would have paid for it!!!

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 1, 2021 • 12:43:21am

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Probably the Old Earth creationist assertion heard most often in liberal Christian churches is the idea that God “guided” evolution (called progressive creationism). No evidence supports the assertion of any sort of “guide.”

I recall that the Pope says there is no inherent conflict in Evolution and Biblical Creation (not literal Creation, of course).

So I guess if you wish to believe that there is a guiding force or spirit behind Evolution, that is a matter of Faith and entirely outside the realm of what Science is set up to prove or disprove.

Dread Pirate Ron Sep 1, 2021 • 12:48:29am

re: #73 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We had our first fairly clear day in a long time here but I’m sure that will change soon. AQI is 13 right now but it was a bit hazy this morning on my bike ride. I’m now at 967 miles, I may break 1000 miles tomorrow.

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 12:49:31am

Tropical Depression Ida is intensifying as it accelerates to the ENE.

…TROPICAL DEPRESSION IDA IS MOVING ACROSS MIDDLE TENNESSEE…
…WIDESPREAD HEAVY RAIN AND AREAS OF POTENTIALLY LIFE THREATENING
FLASH FLOODING ARE POSSIBLE BEGINNING WEDNESDAY ACROSS PORTIONS OF
THE MID ATLANTIC INTO SOUTHERN NEW YORK AND SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND…
…REMNANTS OF IDA WILL ALSO BRING AN ENHANCED RISK FOR SEVERAL
TORNADOES ACROSS PARTS OF THE MID-ATLANTIC ON WEDNESDAY…

SUMMARY OF 1100 PM EDT…0300 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————-
LOCATION…36.2N 84.6W
ABOUT 160 MI…260 KM NE OF HUNTSVILLE ALABAMA
ABOUT 45 MI…70 KM NW OF KNOXVILLE TENNESSEE
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…30 MPH…45 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…ENE OR 60 DEGREES AT 20 MPH…31 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…1000 MB…29.53 INCHES

sagehen Sep 1, 2021 • 1:04:55am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I believed that Bush was erring on the side of caution by invading Iraq when he was just erring on the side of fascism…

My hypothesis about the Iraq invasion:

For Cheney, it was about oil.

For Wolfewisc, Feith & the rest of the PNAC crowd, it was about redrawing the map of the Middle East more to their liking.

For Rumsfeld, it was about field-testing his ideas for a privatized military.

For Rove, it was about a campaign theme for the ‘02 midterms.

For Evangelicals, it was about punishing Babylon for something that happened 2500 years ago.

For Bush, it was about dragging the whole world into his personal Oedipal issues.

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 1, 2021 • 1:07:05am

GOP desperation leads to threats of blackmail:

from nudesmax

Rep. McCarthy: GOP Will Remember Companies That Turn Over Info to Jan. 6 Panel

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy on Tuesday warned tech companies that Republicans “will not forget” if they turn over phone and email records to the committee investigating the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol building, The Hill reported.

A letter from McCarthy was in response to a request Monday from the committee sent to 35 telephone, email and social media companies to preserve records that it said could be relevant to its investigation.

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 1, 2021 • 1:09:01am

re: #79 sagehen

My hypothesis about the Iraq invasion:

For Cheney, it was about oil.

For Wolfewisc, Feith & the rest of the PNAC crowd, it was about redrawing the map of the Middle East more to their liking.

For Rumsfeld, it was about field-testing his ideas for a privatized military.

For Rove, it was about a campaign theme for the ‘02 midterms.

For Evangelicals, it was about punishing Babylon for something that happened 2500 years ago.

For Bush, it was about dragging the whole world into his personal Oedipal issues.

But they sold it to us as part of the Worldwide War on Terror.

I recall that after 2001 the Chinese finally found a good excuse to start openly cracking down on their own Muslim Uighur minority and nobody was very upset about it back then…

FFL (GOP Delenda Est) Sep 1, 2021 • 1:58:04am

re: #45 Eclectic Cyborg

Looks like Knights Templar cosplay.

Reminds me of the various cultural/religious stuff in history where a particular charm or ritual was going to protect you from the encroaching powers’ bullets in battle.

FFL (GOP Delenda Est) Sep 1, 2021 • 2:05:04am

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Pat Robertson is an Old Earth creationist.

en.wikipedia.org

Old Earth creationists are found in many religious sects, not just Evangelicals. However, any form of creationism does not comport with the evidence. Old Earth creationism tries to position themselves as sort of a “middle ground” between religious assertions and scientific findings.

Probably the Old Earth creationist assertion heard most often in liberal Christian churches is the idea that God “guided” evolution (called progressive creationism). No evidence supports the assertion of any sort of “guide.”

Beyond the obvious that God is awful at designing a human. Look at all the nice annoying flaws that were left in like an appendix, spine that doesn’t support bipedalism that well, etc. etc.

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 1, 2021 • 2:10:50am

re: #83 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Beyond the obvious that God is awful at designing a human. Look at all the nice annoying flaws that were left in like an appendix, spine that doesn’t support bipedalism that well, etc. etc.

…like an immune system that has limited resistance to deadly viruses?

EPR-radar Sep 1, 2021 • 2:24:07am

re: #67 sagehen

rationalwiki.org

Last Thursdayism (alternately Last Tuesdayism or Last Wednesdayism) is the idea that the universe was created last Thursday, but with the physical appearance of being billions of years old. It’s also a counter to the creationism theory. Under Last Thursdayism, books, fossils, light already on the way from distant stars, and literally everything (including your memories of the time before last Thursday) were all formed at the time of creation (last Thursday) in a state such that they appear much older.

The debate on whether Last Thursdayism is true has raged on ever since the creation of the universe last Thursday.

I was careful in my definition of creationism to exclude Last Thursdayism.

Last Thursdayism is the absolute version of Goddidit, and is as logically irrefutable as it is worthless. Not even creationists are interested in Last Thursdayism.

EPR-radar Sep 1, 2021 • 2:26:57am

re: #83 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Beyond the obvious that God is awful at designing a human. Look at all the nice annoying flaws that were left in like an appendix, spine that doesn’t support bipedalism that well, etc. etc.

The intelligent design crowd is full of middle age and older men. How they can think the human prostate is intelligently designed is beyond comprehension.

FFL (GOP Delenda Est) Sep 1, 2021 • 2:30:34am

re: #85 EPR-radar

I was careful in my definition of creationism to exclude Last Thursdayism.

Last Thursdayism is the absolute version of Goddidit, and is as logically irrefutable as it is worthless. Not even creationists are interested in Last Thursdayism.

Last Thursdayism doesn’t fit their perception of a Godhead worth worshipping, so they ignore it. It’s also pretty useless as a predictive theory since trickster creationism means that pretty much anything is possible.

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 1, 2021 • 2:31:20am

I can understand and am at lest willing to accept the concept that some Divine Force may have designed us and that our role in nature is not to be contented or happy or perfect but to serve some other Higher Purpose that may or may not be revealed to us some day.

I just draw the line at any form or anti-scientific Biblical Creationism.

Decatur Deb Sep 1, 2021 • 2:32:23am

re: #82 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Reminds me of the various cultural/religious stuff in history where a particular charm or ritual was going to protect you from the encroaching powers’ bullets in battle.

Ghost Shirt, in this case a Holy Ghost Shirt.

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 2:35:18am

re: #84 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

…like an immune system that has limited resistance to deadly viruses?

Or the viruses themselves?

Or the left recurrent laryngeal nerve, which in all mammals goes from the brain, underneath the aorta, then back to the larynx. Or the right recurrent laryngeal nerve, which goes underneath the right subclavian artery then back to the larynx.

That makes for an interesting path in giraffes.

Worse, since a foetus doesn’t use lungs, blood is shunted from the left pulmonary artery to the aorta via a blood vessel which becomes a ligament about three weeks after birth. The left recurrent laryngeal nerve also goes under this ligament. The ligament itself serves no useful purpose in a child or adult, but is still attached to the left pulmonary artery and the aorta.

Thus trauma to the head or neck which pulls sufficiently on the left recurrent laryngeal nerve can rip out the ligament from either the left pulmonary artery or the aorta, causing almost instant catastrophic blood loss and death.

FFL (GOP Delenda Est) Sep 1, 2021 • 2:37:07am

re: #89 Decatur Deb

Ghost Shirt, in this case a Holy Ghost Shirt.

One example of many. If you read accounts of various imperialist and colonial efforts you see something like this crop up repeatedly as the “answer” to suddenly facing some fearsome new technology like guns.

It also seems to echo down through “civilized” cultures as some sort of taught cultural moral superiority that will allow them to prevail against superior numbers and resources via “national spirit” or some similar nebulous construct. Mixed with this you see claims that the enemy will quickly fold due to decadence and an unwillingness to sacrifice. (A couple of prime examples here are the CSA and the Japanese going into WW2.)

Decatur Deb Sep 1, 2021 • 2:38:28am

re: #83 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Beyond the obvious that God is awful at designing a human. Look at all the nice annoying flaws that were left in like an appendix, spine that doesn’t support bipedalism that well, etc. etc.

What a piece of work is Man.

At 77, I think of my body a something like a Mars rover—designed for a mission of a couple months, chugging along for 10 years.

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 1, 2021 • 2:39:17am

re: #91 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

…and French soldiers in their bright red and blue uniforms rushing into machine gun fire at the start of WW1 because elan was supposed to carry the day.

“The moral is to the physical as three to one”

-Napoleon

This might have been true at a time when muskets fired three shots a minute with an effective range of 70 yards…

Targetpractice Sep 1, 2021 • 2:42:44am

re: #83 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Beyond the obvious that God is awful at designing a human. Look at all the nice annoying flaws that were left in like an appendix, spine that doesn’t support bipedalism that well, etc. etc.

Putting an amusement park next to a sewage outflow pipe.

Decatur Deb Sep 1, 2021 • 2:42:49am

Short night’s sleep.

The storms are over, the local damage seems light so far. There were no reports of injuries to be added to our maxed-out hospitals.

Decatur Deb Sep 1, 2021 • 2:46:45am

re: #94 Targetpractice

Putting an amusement park next to a sewage outflow pipe.

At Camp Casey the Engineers put the water purification intake downstream from the outflow. You could tell 2nd Infantry troops at a distance because the chlorination had lightened their BDUs a couple shades.

Decatur Deb Sep 1, 2021 • 2:53:08am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Navy reported to put a helo in the water off San Diego—5 missing.

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 2:55:34am

With Tropical Depression Ida weakening so that is no longer affecting our weather, the front which was pushed north by Ida and the dry line which was pushed west into Wyoming by the tropical air mass will change positions.

The dry line will move back over our area while the front again advances south of us. That will bring rain and thunderstorms, along with funneling the remnants of Pacific Hurricane Nora into eastern Wyoming and the Nebraska Panhandle.

The weather has us chalked up for smoke tonight, then the dry line moves east while the front moves south, opening us up for Nora. That will arrive Friday and early Saturday, as the remnant low blows through into South Dakota, cooling things off considerably and knocking smoke particles out of the air.

wpc.ncep.noaa.gov

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 1, 2021 • 2:55:35am

re: #97 Decatur Deb

Navy reported to put a helo in the water off San Diego—5 missing.

Biden’s fault!

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EPR-radar Sep 1, 2021 • 2:59:17am

re: #87 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Last Thursdayism doesn’t fit their perception of a Godhead worth worshipping, so they ignore it. It’s also pretty useless as a predictive theory since trickster creationism means that pretty much anything is possible.

The real reason religious types despise Last Thursdayism is that it nullifies their own religious tradition.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 3:00:38am

re: #92 Decatur Deb

What a piece of work is Man.

At 77, I think of my body a something like a Mars rover—designed for a mission of a couple months, chugging along for 10 years.

You could think of yourself more as Voyager 2. In a few centuries you will be sent back by a machine world to merge with the Creator, and eradicate all the carbon units which infest the planet.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 3:07:27am

re: #88 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I can understand and am at lest willing to accept the concept that some Divine Force may have designed us and that our role in nature is not to be contented or happy or perfect but to serve some other Higher Purpose that may or may not be revealed to us some day.

I just draw the line at any form or anti-scientific Biblical Creationism.

I’m willing to accept it the moment someone can demonstrate how that can possibly be true.

re: #76 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall that the Pope says there is no inherent conflict in Evolution and Biblical Creation (not literal Creation, of course).

So I guess if you wish to believe that there is a guiding force or spirit behind Evolution, that is a matter of Faith and entirely outside the realm of what Science is set up to prove or disprove.

Not entirely outside the realm of science. Anything which is asserted to have an effect in the material world (guiding a “creation”) is such an assertion. Without even a plausible hypothesis other than a book which was edited numerous times for political and religious reasons, for which we have no original documents, I am quite happy dismissing it just as I am Russel’s Teapot.

The difference between Russel’s Teapot and religion is only one of those has a bunch of believers who try to write their assertions into law to my detriment.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est) Sep 1, 2021 • 3:07:35am

re: #92 Decatur Deb

What a piece of work is Man.

At 77, I think of my body a something like a Mars rover—designed for a mission of a couple months, chugging along for 10 years.

My brother claims that the warranty runs out at age 40.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 3:11:48am

re: #103 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

My brother claims that the warranty runs out at age 40.

“I thought you said this had a lifetime warranty?”

“Well, obviously the useful lifetime is over.”

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Decatur Deb Sep 1, 2021 • 3:11:49am

re: #103 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

My brother claims that the warranty runs out at age 40.

Sounds about right. On models made on Mondays and late Fridays repair costs can exceed break-even by 25. Of course that includes some user neglect.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 3:18:31am

Tropical Storm Larry has formed off the coast of Guinea. Larry is predicted to become a major hurricane, but steer into the central north Atlantic.

Kate, already in the central Atlantic, has been downgraded to a tropical depression.

Tropical Depression Ida is moving into West Virginia.

Tornado watches are in effect for northeast Virginia, DC, and parts of Maryland.

SUMMARY OF 500 AM EDT…0900 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————
LOCATION…37.3N 82.5W
ABOUT 135 MI…220 KM W OF ROANOKE VIRGINIA
ABOUT 135 MI…215 KM NE OF KNOXVILLE TENNESSEE
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…30 MPH…45 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…NE OR 55 DEGREES AT 24 MPH…39 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…1000 MB…29.53 INCHES

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Nojay UK Sep 1, 2021 • 3:20:30am

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I still have the silverware set my father and stepmother gave us when my first wife and I married in 1973. I also have a beautiful hand made quilt my great-great grandmother made in the early 1900s but I don’t use it very often.

Our daily use 20cm kitchen knife is about a century old but its exact date of manufacture is uncertain. However the blade is carbon steel and the manufacturer (Southern and Richardson, Sheffield) switched to new-fangled stainless steel back in the early 1920s so it has to be at least as old as that. If you stretch the definition, the kitchen itself is over 150 years old and some of the fixtures like the door, windows, floor etc. are original.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 3:20:35am

re: #100 EPR-radar

The real reason religious types despise Last Thursdayism is that it nullifies their own religious tradition.

It also leverages one of the YEC arguments: God created fossils to make the Earth appear to be old.

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Decatur Deb Sep 1, 2021 • 3:25:36am

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It also leverages one of the YEC arguments: God created fossils to make the Earth appear to be old.

The Book of Beavis and Butthead.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 3:29:27am

re: #109 Decatur Deb

The Book of Beavis and Butthead.

I prefer the Principia Discordia: Words to live by (if you’re on acid).

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Decatur Deb Sep 1, 2021 • 3:30:04am

Press photo of one of yesterday’s weird tornadoes. Note the blue sky. The first couple storms were almost entirely without thunder and lightning. Our good meteorologist was a little pissed that there were never any tornado watches issued and the first warning came 10 minutes after the storm hit town.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 3:35:29am

re: #111 Decatur Deb

Yikes.

Hopefully now that Ida is lifting out of the area the weather will settle down in Alabama.

I’m happy to hear that no one was hurt by the tornadoes.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 4:00:22am

I think it’s getting about time to jail this douchecanoe for contempt of court.

Britney Spears’ lawyers have accused her father Jamie of “dragging his feet” over stepping down from his daughter’s conservatorship at her request.

Mr Spears, 69, has agreed to relinquish control of the US pop star’s finances.

He has overseen her multimillion dollar estate since she was deemed incapable of looking after herself in 2008.

This week, her lawyer Mathew S Rosengart demanded he step down as soon as possible, accusing him of trying to extort money from his daughter.

The BBC has asked his representative Vivian Thoreen for a comment.

Last month, Mr Spears’ lawyer said he would be “in a position to step aside” when certain matters were resolved, and “when the time is right”.

(more)

Jamie Spears ‘dragging feet’ on conservatorship (BBC)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 4:05:07am

Japan has put a batch of Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine on hold after a foreign substance was found in a vial.
A pharmacist saw several black particles in one vial of the vaccine in Kanagawa Prefecture, according to authorities.

Some 3,790 people had already received shots from the batch. The rest of the batch has now been put on hold.

It comes less than a week after Japan suspended the use of about 1.63 million Moderna doses due to contamination.

The pharmacist found the black particles while checking for foreign substances before the vaccine’s use.

The jab’s domestic distributor has collected the vial suspected to be contaminated.

Local media reports say there is no evidence so far of any health hazards caused by the potentially contaminated vaccine.

(more at the BBC)

Japan finds black particles in Moderna vaccine

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 1, 2021 • 4:11:58am

re: #114 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

so they finally found the nanochips!

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ericblair Sep 1, 2021 • 4:25:39am

Just an amazing set of tweets just a year apart. pic.twitter.com/MDJKRxNROK

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) September 1, 2021

In case anyone was wondering how righteous Engel’s anger is at Biden.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 1, 2021 • 4:28:46am

re: #116 ericblair

again, they don’t care about the Afghans or even the military personnel, it is all about Biden-bashing

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 4:30:37am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

so they finally found the nanochips!

You laugh, but don’t be surprised if wingers start claiming exactly that.

Faulty vaccines have set back public health programmes before, such as contamination of diphtheria vaccine and smallpox vaccine.

historyofvaccines.org

Thiomersal (or thimerosal) was added to vaccines in the 1930’s because of problems with bacterial and fungal growth in vaccines, those also causing serious disease.

Interestingly, thimerosal was also sold over the counter in the United States as Methiolate, as a topical antiseptic and antifungal. It was pulled from the US market at the same time as thimerosal for vaccines was (over an abundance of caution over the ethyl mercury content. Five other countries ban Methiolate for the same reason, otherwise it it available over-the-counter, for example Canada and Mexico).

Most antivaxxers were probably swabbed up dozens of times with Methiolate, even though it’s the exact same compound they rail against in vaccines (which hasn’t been in vaccines since 1998).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 1, 2021 • 4:47:27am

re: #118 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You laugh, but don’t be surprised if wingers start claiming exactly that.

I would bet dollars to doughnuts that you can find at least a dozen postings to that effect online right now…

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Shropshire Slasher Sep 1, 2021 • 4:47:53am

An Illinois woman was busted Saturday for allegedly using a phony COVID-19 vaccine card with a glaring typo to travel to Hawaii, a report said.
The card allegedly submitted online to Hawaiian authorities by Chloe Mrozak, 24, misspelled Moderna as “Maderna,” according to court documents obtained by HawaiiNewsNow.

Not to mention it was entirely in her own handwriting. All to avoid a free vaccine.

nypost.com

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Shropshire Slasher Sep 1, 2021 • 4:48:19am

Damn now I want a doughnut.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 1, 2021 • 4:48:48am

re: #120 Shropshire Slasher

Not to mention it was entirely in her own handwriting. All to avoid a free vaccine.

nypost.com

She meant to write “Madiera” which was probably coursing through her system at high concentrations…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 1, 2021 • 4:49:03am

re: #121 Shropshire Slasher

Damn now I want a doughnut.

I want dollars

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Dopamine Fish Sep 1, 2021 • 4:50:28am

re: #120 Shropshire Slasher

Not to mention it was entirely in her own handwriting. All to avoid a free vaccine.

nypost.com

That’s the part I don’t understand. At this point, the vaccine has been administered to hundreds of millions, if not billions, of people. There is absolutely no reason for vaccine hesitancy based on real or imagined side effects. Literally the only reasons left are politics or just general anti-vaccination sentiment, both of which are just people being fucking stupid so no excuses.

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Thanos Sep 1, 2021 • 4:51:10am

Interesting video, that old Belgian vote in the beginning was so long ago that the list had the now outlawed “Vlaams Blok” party running instead of “Vlaams Belang.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 4:52:29am

re: #118 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Fixed above, confused Mecurichrome with Merthiolate (thomersal). Mecurichrome, in addition to mercury, also has bromine, the first-known drug for epilepsy (potassium bromide), but now mostly deprecated due to its awful side effects. That was withdrawn from the US market in 1975 because bromine was found to be toxic, along with reformulating Bromo-Seltzer (over-the-counter pain medication sold as powder pouches and popular for hangovers due to its sedative effect).

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Sherlock Hound Sep 1, 2021 • 4:53:51am

re: #54 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

One of the real drawbacks of being an aviation nut is that the whole industry and culture are dominated by right wing assholes. It’s not as bad as if you’re a gun nut but it is part of the landscape, and pretty annoying at times.
Otoh, general aviation (ie private flying) does Darwinize a fairly consistent number of them, since their innate arrogance leads them to cut corners, try out unproven ideas, and generally think they know better than the experts. Sound familiar?

Same with ham radio and every other radio hobby. So many wingnuts.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 4:58:38am

re: #124 Dopamine Fish

That’s the part I don’t understand. At this point, the vaccine has been administered to hundreds of millions, if not billions, of people. There is absolutely no reason for vaccine hesitancy based on real or imagined side effects. Literally the only reasons left are politics or just general anti-vaccination sentiment, both of which are just people being fucking stupid so no excuses.

It is entirely explicable if the politically-leveraged anti-vax movement by conservatives, is viewed through the lens of religion.

Conservatives, like any other religion, listen to those in their hierarchical pyramid (religions do not have to have a hierarchy to be organised in a pyramid). Those on top tell those lower down what to do. They are told to believe those things (trickle-down economics works, Covid-19 is a hoax, the vaccine is poison), so they do.

They cannot conceive of their beliefs about the vaccine being wrong, because they hold a religious belief about the vaccine. It’s why Republican legislators in Ohio are trying to repeal all vaccine requirements just to avoid the now-approved Covid-19 vaccine.

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Shropshire Slasher Sep 1, 2021 • 5:03:11am

The New York State Fairgrounds is now home to a memorial for transportation workers who have been killed on the job.
The Highway Workers Memorial near the midway at the fair honors those who died while working on bridges and roads in New York. The memorial is a bronze sculpture with boats, hard hats, shovels and four cones. Paved walkways lead to the memorial, with a marker near one of the walkways. Plants and trees surround the area.

Gov. Kathy Hochul unveiled the memorial at a ceremony on Sunday. She noted that the state Department of Transportation has lost 56 employees in roadside accidents. That tally does not include contractors and Thruway Authority employees who have been killed in the line of duty.

Move over, give them a brake.

auburnpub.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 5:08:24am

re: #128 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Even non-hierarchical religions (for example, Wicca) place faith in what others have told them, even if they don’t have a central scriptural text. Whether they got that knowledge from writings by Wiccan authors such as Scott Cunningham’s “Wicca for the Solitary Practitioner” or from a “formal” coven with a high priestess, the witch takes her or his direction from what they’ve read or been told by authority figures and turns it into belief. They then incorporate the belief such that “what they believe is who they are.”

I can no more convince a Wiccan that their religious faith is likely untrue than I can convince a Christian or Muslim. As a minority religion they have no power to persecute others, though they have been persecuted.

From the outside as an atheist looking in, the structures of religion look the same regardless of the window-dressing, which is why I consider conservatism a religion. By design it does not change (like any other religion) if at all, seeks control of those lower on the pyramid, insists in the face of all evidence against its tenets that it must be true, and is persecuted by “others” (ohmygod the cancel culture bullshyte is really getting old).

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Ming5000 Sep 1, 2021 • 5:09:22am

sorryantivaxxer.com did not update since yesterday.
Maybe the low hanging fruit has been picked?

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Dopamine Fish Sep 1, 2021 • 5:10:57am

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Even as a religious person, I will agree with your assertion that conservatism is a religion in itself, albeit most frequently intertwined with the tenets of Christianity in an attempt to give it a veneer of historical legitimacy, carrying the narrative of “Republicans are the Party of God” that has been established since the successful execution of the Southern Strategy.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 5:11:20am

re: #129 Shropshire Slasher

That is a wonderful memorial to those who have died in the line of duty for civil society. (I think we have enough military memorials for now.)

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Patricia Kayden Sep 1, 2021 • 5:11:27am

re: #21 No Malarkey!

You’ve changed so that’s really all that matters. Ditto John Cole of Balloon Juice.

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jeffreyw Sep 1, 2021 • 5:12:36am

Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 5:13:46am

re: #131 Ming5000

sorryantivaxxer.com did not update since yesterday.
Maybe the low hanging fruit has been picked?

Or the poor Website operator needed a bathroom break.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Sep 1, 2021 • 5:15:39am

re: #24 wrenchwench

I’d take the chef’s knife over the cheese cutter. Ours are Zwilling.

I have 2 ceramic knives that are extremely sharp: One from KitcheanAid (smooth blade) and a serrated blade made by Kyocera for cutting bread. Both hold their edge extremely well.

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A Mom Anon Sep 1, 2021 • 5:18:08am

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I had all of Scott Cunningham’s books when I was into Wicca. I kept a couple of them, the ones related to kitchen and herbal”magick”.

I left Wicca after joining a group of basically nice people who formed their own hierarchy like the churches I attended as a kid. Nope. I tried solitary practice for awhile but it just didn’t click with me. Online parenting while Wiccan groups weren’t helpful either, I had some weird lady claim my son was hers in a previous life and it just went weird and downhill from there.

I don’t discount religion as a whole, but I haven’t had any positive experiences with it so it’s not for me.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 5:18:44am

Sir La-Nogig (Goes to Wonkville, caution for NSFW carving inside a UK church)

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Eric The Fruit Bat Sep 1, 2021 • 5:21:25am

re: #43 EPR-radar

Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God

Reminds me of Archer’s Bloody Mary Prayer:

Archers “Bloody Mary prayer”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 5:24:41am

re: #138 A Mom Anon

I had all of Scott Cunningham’s books when I was into Wicca. I kept a couple of them, the ones related to kitchen and herbal”magick”.

I left Wicca after joining a group of basically nice people who formed their own hierarchy like the churches I attended as a kid. Nope. I tried solitary practice for awhile but it just didn’t click with me. Online parenting while Wiccan groups weren’t helpful either, I had some weird lady claim my son was hers in a previous life and it just went weird and downhill from there.

I don’t discount religion as a whole, but I haven’t had any positive experiences with it so it’s not for me.

In my homeless era, for awhile I had roommates who were Wiccans. They did not evangelise (that not really being a thing in Wicca), but I did read a few of their books including Scott Cunningham’s (which is why the title stuck in my mind).

They took me to a large gathering of Wiccans though, and when I was the minority non-religion (an atheist amongst a sea of Wiccans at a campground in Kansas which used to belong to a Baptist church but is now part of a Kansas City group), oh boy did the vitriol come out. (Turns out when your the majority, you don’t want tolerance, you want perfection.)

Prior to that, I’d run into the occasional Wiccan when playing at Renaissance festivals, but one-on-one it was fine.

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Belafon Sep 1, 2021 • 5:25:26am

re: #118 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You laugh, but don’t be surprised if wingers start claiming exactly that.

Faulty vaccines have set back public health programmes before, such as contamination of diphtheria vaccine and smallpox vaccine.

historyofvaccines.org

Thiomersal (or thimerosal) was added to vaccines in the 1930’s because of problems with bacterial and fungal growth in vaccines, those also causing serious disease.

Interestingly, thimerosal was also sold over the counter in the United States as Methiolate, as a topical antiseptic and antifungal. It was pulled from the US market at the same time as thimerosal for vaccines was (over an abundance of caution over the ethyl mercury content. Five other countries ban Methiolate for the same reason, otherwise it it available over-the-counter, for example Canada and Mexico).

Most antivaxxers were probably swabbed up dozens of times with Methiolate, even though it’s the exact same compound they rail against in vaccines (which hasn’t been in vaccines since 1998).

One of the polio vaccine manufacturers botched the process and gave the recipients polio.

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Dopamine Fish Sep 1, 2021 • 5:27:03am

This is the tail end of a thread discussing why it is very unlikely that the Supreme Court will sit on their hands while the Texas SB8 bill goes through. I find it interesting; it seems as though this sort of vigilante law is exactly the sort of thing conservatives (and thus grandstanding jackwagons like Cavanaugh and Barrett) would approve of, but by the same token, the justices have a vested interest in not giving states the power to literally do an end run around them just by declaring that, “The state is not enforcing the law, the courts are!”

Either they issue a ruling that limits this procedural mechanism, or none at all.

They may still take the former path; it’s early in the day. But so far they’ve chosen silence.

/fin

— Mike Dunford (@questauthority) September 1, 2021

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 5:29:41am

Here’s some of the rainfall reports from #Ida through this afternoon. Note that these are not final totals since it’s still raining! Some of the higher amounts include 4.72” in Collinwood (Wayne Co), 4.23” in Lafayette (Macon Co), & 4.02” in Belle Meade (Davidson Co) https://t.co/CXdxcaWTEP

— NWS Nashville (@NWSNashville) August 31, 2021

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GlutenFreeJesus Sep 1, 2021 • 5:31:51am

re: #143 Dopamine Fish

They know this “work-around” could then be used for the 2A as well.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 5:34:54am

re: #143 Dopamine Fish

This is a similar argument made a few years ago to Oklahoma’s attorney general when Colorado passed legal maryjane. They also lined up Kansas and Nebraska to enter into the suit.

Someone pointed out to them if those states challenged and prevailed over Colorado, then Colorado and other states could do the same over our laxer gun laws.

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Dopamine Fish Sep 1, 2021 • 5:37:58am

re: #146 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This is a similar argument made a few years ago when Oklahoma’s attorney general when Colorado passed legal maryjane. They also lined up Kansas and Nebraska to enter into the suit.

Someone pointed out to them if those states challenged and prevailed over Colorado, then Colorado and other states could do the same over our laxer gun laws.

California has also used this threat to avoid challenges to its strict environmental regulations. It makes sense; this is also the primary reason why intra-state challenges are, as a rule, not permitted before the Supreme Court as a matter of course. This came up in the context of Texas v. Pennsylvania et al., when felon Attorney General Ken Paxton tried to sue other states for violating Texas’s electoral rights.

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Belafon Sep 1, 2021 • 5:39:09am

This is correct. https://t.co/pNYIy2HYAy

— Jason Kander (@JasonKander) September 1, 2021

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BlueSpotinAL Sep 1, 2021 • 5:39:27am

I went along (believed the justification) with the invasion of Afghanistan, but the invasion of Iraq was clearly based on specious arguments that had nothing to do with terrorism. If you go to the George W Bush presidential library in Dallas, TX, there is an exhibit designed to convince you (i.e. you enter a choice, and the majority wins - I suspect it is rigged to ignore what people actually enter) that the majority of the people would have made the same decision. Quite pathetic really.

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lawhawk Sep 1, 2021 • 5:40:28am

re: #143 Dopamine Fish

That they’re letting it stew is not a good look. They know damned well this was coming and that the law itself is unconstitutional and allows vigilantism. It reeks of authoritarianism and religious fascism. It is anti-science and shreds the rule of law.

And we also know that 6 members of this court would probably strike down Roe under other circumstances.

Yeah, pack the fucking court and all the lower courts. The GOP have wrecked the rule of law and peddling fascist fantasies to their base who consider any Democrats winning to be the result of fraud (it isn’t, but the facts don’t matter).

Instead of killing this bill overnight, the Court is allowing it to stand even briefly. There’s nothing in the Texas law that would survive constitutional scrutiny. Nothing. It doesn’t follow the science or the law.

The right wing doesn’t care about either. Just power/control.

— lawhawk #vaxxingforafriend (@lawhawk) September 1, 2021

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Belafon Sep 1, 2021 • 5:41:32am

Repeated theme in post-speech analysis: How dare the president defend his policies in ways that do not suit the narrative I have been peddling for the past few weeks? How dare he make his case on his terms and not on mine?

— David Rothkopf (@djrothkopf) August 31, 2021

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Shropshire Slasher Sep 1, 2021 • 5:41:56am

Ok, last one. For $450 you could get a vaccine card AND get your name entered in a legitimate database, all for a free vaccine.

A New Jersey stripper was exposed on Tuesday as the alleged mastermind of a scheme to sell phony vaccination cards through social media - but an internet sleuth already uncovered her sick scam to his 2 million viewers on TikTok.

Jasmine Clifford, 31, of Lyndhurst, sold fake Centers for Disease Control and Prevention vaccination cards for $200 apiece and entry into the legitimate New York database for another $250, the Manhattan District Attorney’s office said Tuesday.

snip

There were 250 fake CDC cards and at least 10 false entries in the database, prosecutors said. Those included at least 13 “public-facing” employees in New York who worked in industries such as nursing homes and hospitals, all of whom were charged, prosecutors said.

nypost.com

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Belafon Sep 1, 2021 • 5:44:32am

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No Malarkey! Sep 1, 2021 • 5:45:12am

I continue to expect that by the end of next year there will be no open abortion clinics in about half the states, and poor women in those states will have no option other than illegal abortions. Rich women and their daughters will just fly to the blue state of their chosing when they want to end a pregnancy.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips Sep 1, 2021 • 5:47:47am

“BIDEN JUST GAVE THE TALIBAN TOP GRADE MILITARY EQUIPMENT ! ! !”

And, despite what the reporter is saying (she even contradicts herself during the piece) nothing shown is “US” equipment. As everything clearly shown Afghan military markings.

The Taliban were disappointed to find inoperable planes and helicopters left behind by American forces on the military side of the Kabul airport. pic.twitter.com/HfmlwYNjO0

— Al Jazeera English (@AJEnglish) September 1, 2021

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Belafon Sep 1, 2021 • 5:48:56am

oops I did it again pic.twitter.com/eHhd5h82Dc

— Matt Negrin, HOST OF HARDBALL AT 7PM ON MSNBC (@MattNegrin) August 31, 2021

The “strange” part is that yet again the news media and Washington insiders don’t have a clue what people outside of their bubble care about. https://t.co/SVHDkpK9ht

— Tom Brennan (@Brennanator) August 31, 2021

If there’s a criticism of Biden to be had it’s that his lack of confidence in the entire Afghan War project wasn’t nearly pessimistic enough. https://t.co/94qJd9hWdb

— zeddy (@Zeddary) August 31, 2021

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Dopamine Fish Sep 1, 2021 • 5:49:45am

re: #155 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

“BIDEN JUST GAVE THE TALIBAN TOP GRADE MILITARY EQUIPMENT ! ! !”

And, despite what the reporter is saying (she even contradicts herself during the piece) nothing shown is “US” equipment. As everything clearly shown Afghan military markings.

They’re using it as lazy shorthand for, “US-manufactured equipment the Afghan Army owned”, which is apparently supposed to be a damning indictment because we… supplied our allies with gear and they abandoned it when they surrendered?

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lawhawk Sep 1, 2021 • 5:50:03am

re: #155 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

“BIDEN JUST GAVE THE TALIBAN TOP GRADE MILITARY EQUIPMENT ! ! !”

And, despite what the reporter is saying (she even contradicts herself during the piece) nothing shown is “US” equipment. As everything clearly shown Afghan military markings.

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US manufactured equipment that was given/sold to the Afghan military and now rendered inoperable. But that wont stop the caterwauling of the GOPers who were perfectly fine when Trump negotiated this with the Taliban or that Trump would have completely botched the handling of the withdrawal because the last thing Trump cares about is logistics (see also Puerto Rico after Maria).

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Hecuba's daughter Sep 1, 2021 • 5:50:10am

re: #124 Dopamine Fish

That’s the part I don’t understand. At this point, the vaccine has been administered to hundreds of millions, if not billions, of people. There is absolutely no reason for vaccine hesitancy based on real or imagined side effects. Literally the only reasons left are politics or just general anti-vaccination sentiment, both of which are just people being fucking stupid so no excuses.

These anti-Covid-Vaxxers watch shows and read experts who tell them of the thousands who have died from the vaccines but whose deaths aren’t reported in MSM. In many cases, they base their stories on VAERS, which holds unreviewed raw data reported by anyone, without any verification of its accuracy.

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Patricia Kayden Sep 1, 2021 • 5:51:05am

re: #116 ericblair

Talking out of both sides of his mouth. But this is how the MSM operates.

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Nojay UK Sep 1, 2021 • 5:56:35am

re: #157 Dopamine Fish

They’re using it as lazy shorthand for, “US-manufactured equipment the Afghan Army owned”, which is apparently supposed to be a damning indictment because we… supplied our allies with gear and they abandoned it when they surrendered?

s/abandoned it/sold it beforehand to their cousin in the Taliban//

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips Sep 1, 2021 • 5:57:12am

re: #157 Dopamine Fish

They’re using it as lazy shorthand for, “US-manufactured equipment the Afghan Army owned”, which is apparently supposed to be a damning indictment because we… supplied our allies with gear and they abandoned it when they surrendered?

re: #158 lawhawk

US manufactured equipment that was given/sold to the Afghan military and now rendered inoperable. But that wont stop the caterwauling of the GOPers who were perfectly fine when Trump negotiated this with the Taliban or that Trump would have completely botched the handling of the withdrawal because the last thing Trump cares about is logistics (see also Puerto Rico after Maria).

What’s funny if that the helicopter she touches, while stating “the Taliban expected equipment like this to be left in one piece” is a Russian MI-17

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lawhawk Sep 1, 2021 • 5:57:29am

re: #159 Hecuba’s daughter

These anti-Covid-Vaxxers watch shows and read experts who tell them of the thousands who have died from the vaccines but whose deaths aren’t reported in MSM. In many cases, they base their stories on VAERS, which holds unreviewed raw data reported by anyone, without any verification of its accuracy.

Every VAERS report has to get investigated and substantiated before anyone can see a payout from the fund. That’s how it works.

You can claim you got a headache as a side effect, but that wont result in a payout. If you’re claiming you were hospitalized with a 104 fever and bleeding, you’ll need to substantiate with medical records and examinations. That’s how this works.

Trying to spam VAERS with claims of deaths and side effects just clogs the process. People who died long after the vaccine was administered will get logged into the system too, to see if the deaths had anything to do with the vaccine - and so far that answer is also no.

In the billions of doses administered worldwide with these classes of vaccines, the overall safety rate is far higher than many other vaccines that were delivered in the past - not that it matters to the antivaxxers. They’ll always come up with some other insane conspiracy or claim to chase.

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ericblair Sep 1, 2021 • 5:57:48am

It’s 24 years since my all-time favourite press apology/correction. If any of you can beat it, I’m all ears. pic.twitter.com/IVqb5NYQIq

— The Author, Séamas O’Reilly, retweeting praise (@shockproofbeats) September 1, 2021

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No Malarkey! Sep 1, 2021 • 5:58:03am

re: #159 Hecuba’s daughter

These anti-Covid-Vaxxers watch shows and read experts who tell them of the thousands who have died from the vaccines but whose deaths aren’t reported in MSM. In many cases, they base their stories on VAERS, which holds unreviewed raw data reported by anyone, without any verification of its accuracy.

The people lying to these dumb fuckers for power and profit are pure evil. Covid-19 is a horrible way to die, and they are knowingly setting up those who trust them for that fate. What kind of monster does that.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 5:58:08am

re: #147 Dopamine Fish

California has also used this threat to avoid challenges to its strict environmental regulations. It makes sense; this is also the primary reason why intra-state challenges are, as a rule, not permitted before the Supreme Court as a matter of course. This came up in the context of Texas v. Pennsylvania et al., when felon Attorney General Ken Paxton tried to sue other states for violating Texas’s electoral rights.

My wingnut AG joined that suit. Thanks for wasting my tax money.

There are cases where the Supreme Court will get involved in fights between states, but it normally has to be a novel application of law.

Two come off the top of my head.

The first was when arguments over islands in Lake Erie between Michigan and Ohio reached a crescendo in 1973 when the Supreme Court decided the boundary in Lake Erie as a relic of the Toledo Strip War. At odds: Turtle Island (privately owned). The court decided the boundary in the lake and divided Turtle Island between the two states.

The other was when the Missouri River changed course and lopped off part of Council Bluffs from Iowa, putting it on our side of the river and surrounded by Omaha. The court decided that the land still belonged to Iowa, and that since Council Bluffs no longer could provide city services it could become a city in its own right. Thus the birth of Carter Lake, Iowa, which during Prohibition was a haven of casinos and liquor, hangout of gangsters, and generally all-around pain for Omaha to deal with.

Most recently Carter Lake made the news because Mike Pence held a rally there for Donald Trump in the last election (the first time a Presidential rally was held in that city; the idea was to draw crowds from Omaha to prevent NE-2 from going for Biden—that failed).

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Nojay UK Sep 1, 2021 • 6:06:53am

re: #165 No Malarkey!

The people lying to these dumb fuckers for power and profit are pure evil. Covid-19 is a horrible way to die, and they are knowingly setting up those who trust them for that fate. What kind of monster does that.

Romans? Crucifixion (without the nails and stuff, ropes were more usual) involves letting the victim choke to death as their breathing stops working. A fit healthy person might last a few days on the cross, people in an ICU with COVID-19 or some other lung infection can last for weeks.

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lawhawk Sep 1, 2021 • 6:08:42am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My wingnut AG joined that suit. Thanks for wasting my tax money.

There are cases where the Supreme Court will get involved in fights between states, but it normally has to be a novel application of law.

Two come off the top of my head.

The first was when arguments over islands in Lake Erie between Michigan and Ohio reached a crescendo in 1973 when the Supreme Court decided the boundary in Lake Erie as a relic of the Toledo Strip War. At odds: Turtle Island (privately owned). The court decided the boundary in the lake and divided Turtle Island between the two states.

The other was when the Missouri River changed course and lopped off part of Council Bluffs from Iowa, putting it on our side of the river and surrounded by Omaha. The court decided that the land still belonged to Iowa, and that since Council Bluffs no longer could provide city services it could become a city in its own right. Thus the birth of Carter Lake, Iowa, which during Prohibition was a haven of casinos and liquor, hangout of gangsters, and generally all-around pain for Omaha to deal with.

Most recently Carter Lake made the news because Mike Pence held a rally there for Donald Trump in the last election (the first time a Presidential rally was held in that city; the idea was to draw crowds from Omaha to prevent NE-2 from going for Biden—that failed).

Lawsuits between and against states have original jurisdiction at the Supreme Court. Often the Court will appoint a special master to try and get the states to come to terms before the Court has to rule.

I’d point to NJ v. NY - where the states argued Ellis Island was in their respective state.

oyez.org

Under existing law at the time, NJ had jurisdiction over submerged lands, while NY had jurisdiction over the original parcel known as Ellis Island. Over the years, Ellis Island was expanded with landfill and connected to NJ via a bridge.

NJ got to claim jurisdiction over all the land that was added.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course) Sep 1, 2021 • 6:19:47am

re: #92 Decatur Deb

What a piece of work is Man.

At 77, I think of my body a something like a Mars rover—designed for a mission of a couple months, chugging along for 10 years.

I hear ya, right behind you at 74 and it’s amazing how many things now can go wrong with the body, and how fast!

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Dr Lizardo Sep 1, 2021 • 6:21:59am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

…a relic of the Toledo Strip War.

Kinky…

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Dangerman Sep 1, 2021 • 6:24:53am

re: #162 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

What’s funny if that the helicopter she touches, while stating “the Taliban expected equipment like this to be left in one piece” is a Russian MI-17

on this issue why the eff does anyone care what the taliban ‘expected’?
(and didnt get because the military are not idiots)

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Dangerman Sep 1, 2021 • 6:26:09am

re: #163 lawhawk

Every VAERS report has to get investigated and substantiated before anyone can see a payout from the fund. That’s how it works.

You can claim you got a headache as a side effect, but that wont result in a payout. If you’re claiming you were hospitalized with a 104 fever and bleeding, you’ll need to substantiate with medical records and examinations. That’s how this works.

Trying to spam VAERS with claims of deaths and side effects just clogs the process. People who died long after the vaccine was administered will get logged into the system too, to see if the deaths had anything to do with the vaccine - and so far that answer is also no.

In the billions of doses administered worldwide with these classes of vaccines, the overall safety rate is far higher than many other vaccines that were delivered in the past - not that it matters to the antivaxxers. They’ll always come up with some other insane conspiracy or claim to chase.

its not about the logic or the science or proof…
its about constantly stirring the pot

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JOE 🥓 Sep 1, 2021 • 6:28:43am

re: #143 Dopamine Fish

This is the tail end of a thread discussing why it is very unlikely that the Supreme Court will sit on their hands while the Texas SB8 bill goes through. I find it interesting; it seems as though this sort of vigilante law is exactly the sort of thing conservatives (and thus grandstanding jackwagons like Cavanaugh and Barrett) would approve of, but by the same token, the justices have a vested interest in not giving states the power to literally do an end run around them just by declaring that, “The state is not enforcing the law, the courts are!”

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DodgerFan1988 Sep 1, 2021 • 6:32:02am

When do we start airlifting the women and children out of Texas?

— NeuroPsychoPhD (@SethN12) September 1, 2021

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A Mom Anon Sep 1, 2021 • 6:43:15am

re: #174 DodgerFan1988

We’re going to end up with an Underground Railroad type system set up to help women in areas where paranoid and stupid people make the rules. I don’t know how we can avoid it if this is allowed to stand. Planned Parenthood and another women’s health group have already shut off all talk of and all abortion related anything. Until this changes, I hope these groups invest outside of Texas where they can function and accept patients, many of whom will come from Texas and other states where this will inevitably happen.

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Dopamine Fish Sep 1, 2021 • 6:43:42am

I don’t know what CC:’ing @POTUS is really going to do here. I know President Biden is all-too-well aware of what the Republican efforts to deprive people of the franchise is going to do to this country. The fact that we don’t have enough Democrats who have enough gravitas to do what needs to be done to stop it is hardly his fault.

You think the last four years were bad? Wait until you see what voter suppression, voter registration purges, gerrymandering, and putting vote counting in the hands of hyper-partisan legislators does to your country in the next four years. You ain’t seen nothing yet. (cc. @POTUS)

— Walter Shaub (@waltshaub) September 1, 2021

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Decatur Deb Sep 1, 2021 • 6:44:31am

We’re Number One !!1!

The larger of our hospitals is the first in Alabama to be reinforced with Federal medics. Twenty active-duty USAF personnel are split over 12-hour shifts.

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Belafon Sep 1, 2021 • 6:45:43am

https://t.co/l1tsqWA7dd pic.twitter.com/FY0iB8HY83

— OneHitPopehat (@Popehat) August 31, 2021

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Decatur Deb Sep 1, 2021 • 6:46:06am

re: #175 A Mom Anon

We’re going to end up with an Underground Railroad type system set up to help women in areas where paranoid and stupid people make the rules. I don’t know how we can avoid it if this is allowed to stand. Planned Parenthood and another women’s health group have already shut off all talk of and all abortion related anything. Until this changes, I hope these groups invest outside of Texas where they can function and accept patients, many of whom will come from Texas and other states where this will inevitably happen.

Might be a one-way trip. Some of the draft laws in some states criminalize leaving the state for termination.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips Sep 1, 2021 • 6:47:13am

So @Jim_Jordan lied? https://t.co/qQoIeM9pDO

— Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) September 1, 2021

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 6:47:17am

re: #143 Dopamine Fish

And if Mr. Dunford is wrong about this, another person offers alternative planning for living through Texas’s hellscape for women.

K yall - Texas’s “heartbeat ban” may go into effect soon &unlike past bans this one might get enforced. This is exactly the scenario I wrote #postroehandbook for: https://t.co/5cCn72y0HR

Ready to talk about actions? This will be controversial, so grab your seatbelts…. (1/29)

— Robin Marty (@robinmarty) August 24, 2021

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Belafon Sep 1, 2021 • 6:49:26am

Part of the reason kids may not be getting as sick:

Evidence mounts that MMR & TDAP vaccines guard against severe Covid. Vaccines aim to induce strong immunity via memory T&B cells. Measles-Mumps-Rubella & Tetanus-Diphtheria-Pertussis elicit potent responses & a possible bonus: cross-reactive memory T cells https://t.co/T1Y4xHMqwz pic.twitter.com/g0j8dhSM8s

— delthia ricks 🔬 (@DelthiaRicks) August 31, 2021

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 6:50:26am

Good luck with that, Dr. Walensky.

The CDC says fully vaccinated Americans should wear masks if traveling over Labor Day weekend.

“If you are unvaccinated, we would recommend not traveling,” @CDCDirector Rochelle Walensky added https://t.co/MJbHKzhVgK pic.twitter.com/fa8Et9bM36

— Bloomberg Quicktake (@Quicktake) August 31, 2021

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Belafon Sep 1, 2021 • 6:51:04am

Clifford is charged alongside Nadayza Barkley, 27, of Bellport NY who while working at a medical clinic would enter the names of those who bought the forged cards into the New York State database for vaccinations.

— Tom Winter (@Tom_Winter) August 31, 2021

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Belafon Sep 1, 2021 • 6:51:23am

Rocket science is not offered as a major in this school. https://t.co/iBDicfR0Uv

— Slava Malamud (@SlavaMalamud) August 30, 2021

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Sherlock Hound Sep 1, 2021 • 6:54:00am

Of course, Massachusetts is not on this list.

The State Department has identified 19 “welcoming” communities where Afghans and Iraqis could settle based on a number of measures, including but not limited to housing availability.

It goes without saying, New York City didn’t make the cut. pic.twitter.com/CUkOUdvkXh

— Aaron Carr (@aaronAcarr) August 31, 2021

There is a candidate for mayor in my city who is a straight-up xenophobe. He and his NIMBY cronies just couch it in as many environmental and social-justice terms as they can. I’ll never forget the town next door, supposedly very liberal, that rejected Vietnamese boat people after Saigon. A lot of these people in that town, and mine.

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lawhawk Sep 1, 2021 • 6:54:06am

re: #182 Belafon

TDAP is the booster for adults.

And I got mine in July after fully covid vaccinated with House Moderna in May. I’ll take every angle I can get to avoid covid.

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No Malarkey! Sep 1, 2021 • 6:56:29am

Large study confirms that masks help reduce Covid, surgical masks most of all.

With dozens of researchers at Yale, Stanford, Berkeley and IPA and several other organizations, we ran a cluster randomized trial involving almost 350,000 people and 600 villages in Bangladesh to assess the impact of community masking on COVID.

— Jason Abaluck (@Jabaluck) September 1, 2021

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JOE 🥓 Sep 1, 2021 • 6:56:45am

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steve_davis Sep 1, 2021 • 6:57:46am

re: #41 JOE 🥓

Not sure why you can’t put on the armor of god for office work as well. I think showing up on an armored horse while wearing chainmail, a helmet, a shield with a clearly well-used shield, and a cavalry sword would go a long way to demonstrating one’s bona fides in the world of spiritual battles.

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Dopamine Fish Sep 1, 2021 • 6:59:00am

re: #186 Sherlock Hound

Of course, Massachusetts is not on this list.

There is a candidate for mayor in my city who is a straight-up xenophobe. He and his NIMBY cronies just couch it in as many environmental and social-justice terms as they can. I’ll never forget the town next door, supposedly very liberal, that rejected Vietnamese boat people after Saigon. A lot of these people in that town, and mine.

I’m interested to know why Minnesota isn’t on this list; we have the largest enclave of Somali refugees, and a large community of Hmong from Vietnam, as well. I wonder if it has to do with housing cost; the standard of living is relatively high here, and I can see how an increase in costs might put Minneapolis out of many refugees’ price range.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 6:59:01am

re: #184 Belafon

Much jail. Very time.

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Eclectic Cyborg Sep 1, 2021 • 7:00:04am

re: #191 Dopamine Fish

Housing cost would be my guess.

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Dopamine Fish Sep 1, 2021 • 7:02:16am

re: #193 Eclectic Cyborg

Housing cost would be my guess.

I also wonder if maybe the propensity of our cops to just straight-up murder non-white people might have something to do with it///

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Sherlock Hound Sep 1, 2021 • 7:03:21am

re: #193 Eclectic Cyborg

Housing cost would be my guess.

It’s OMG, WTF, LOL in Massachusetts, but the true WTF is that exorbitant housing costs are seen as a good thing.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 7:04:01am

re: #186 Sherlock Hound

Of course, Massachusetts is not on this list.

There is a candidate for mayor in my city who is a straight-up xenophobe. He and his NIMBY cronies just couch it in as many environmental and social-justice terms as they can. I’ll never forget the town next door, supposedly very liberal, that rejected Vietnamese boat people after Saigon. A lot of these people in that town, and mine.

Nebraska isn’t on the list either, which is strange because by percentage of population this state has the highest number of refugees. It is fairly cheap (though it would appear they only list large cities and not whole state, even so Omaha is way cheaper than Chicago or Salt Lake City).

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No Malarkey! Sep 1, 2021 • 7:08:04am

As Idaho enters a crisis stage of pandemic, the Governor said people could help by getting vaccinated. The Lt. Gov. has decided to run for Governor by being the anti-vaxxer candidate.

It was shameful for Brad to suggest today that Idahoans must make a specific medical choice in order to show love for their neighbors. You can love your neighbor and still make medical decisions that are right for you. I trust YOU to make your own health choices. #idpol

— Janice McGeachin (@JaniceMcGeachin) August 31, 2021

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Dopamine Fish Sep 1, 2021 • 7:08:09am

re: #196 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Nebraska isn’t on the list either, which is strange because by percentage of population this state has the highest number of refugees. It is fairly cheap (though it would appear they only list large cities and not whole state, even so Omaha is way cheaper than Chicago or Salt Lake City).

Possibly under “supportive services” or “welcoming community” - despite having the highest percentage of refugees, I wonder if the recent political climate of your fair state might factor into it. The criteria are frustratingly vague, and it’d be great to see why other communities in the country didn’t make the cut.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo Sep 1, 2021 • 7:08:18am

If “Big Woo” (the snake-oil/quack supplement industry) found a way to profit from abortion, the GOP would reverse their position overnight and the Southern Baptists would welcome it (as they did Roe v. Wade in 1973).

— Lord Piltdown (@jimreynolds54) September 1, 2021

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 7:10:45am

Much of Pennsylvania is going to see 3-6 inches of rain today, with up to 8 inches possible locally.

I’ve signed a proclamation of disaster emergency to allow our emergency preparedness teams to provide any support needed during the storm and its aftermath.

— Governor Tom Wolf (@GovernorTomWolf) September 1, 2021

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No Malarkey! Sep 1, 2021 • 7:13:18am

re: #199 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I don’t think so. Other than worship of Cheetolini, the most fundamental GOP beliefs are anti-abortion and pro gun. The pro-life movement provides the GOP it’s most reliable foot soldiers in election campaigns.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo Sep 1, 2021 • 7:13:19am

re: #196 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Nebraska isn’t on the list either, which is strange because by percentage of population this state has the highest number of refugees. It is fairly cheap (though it would appear they only list large cities and not whole state, even so Omaha is way cheaper than Chicago or Salt Lake City).

In the long ago days of 1975, Lubbock broke with other “conservative” communes and rolled out the welcome mat for Vietnamese refugees, a decision that even Trumpers can be induced to admit has paid huge dividends in the years since.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 7:13:22am

re: #198 Dopamine Fish

Possibly under “supportive services” or “welcoming community” - despite having the highest percentage of refugees, I wonder if the recent political climate of your fair state might factor into it. The criteria are frustratingly vague, and it’d be great to see why other communities in the country didn’t make the cut.

Out here in the Old West we don’t have a lot of any sort of services. That said, there are a couple refugees who live in my village (one from Cuba, one from Iran).

There are a number of government, church-run, and private services in Omaha and Lincoln.

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Belafon Sep 1, 2021 • 7:14:29am

I initially criticized #Biden for #Afghanistan, comparing it to Fall of Saigon. He proved me wrong. The past few weeks rescuing 123,000 in #Kabul was incredible and historic. The use of carrot-and-stick diplomacy on #Taliban was brilliant, the military achievements extraordinary.

— Matthew VanDyke (@Matt_VanDyke) August 31, 2021

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Belafon Sep 1, 2021 • 7:15:51am

re: #202 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

In the long ago days of 1975, Lubbock broke with other “conservative” communes and rolled out the welcome mat for Vietnamese refugees, a decision that even Trumpers can be induced to admit has paid huge dividends in the years since.

Vietnamese is the third most spoken language in Texas. We accepted a lot of refugees.

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Decatur Deb Sep 1, 2021 • 7:20:28am

Two 19 yr old linemen were killed restoring storm damage in Pike Co AL. Awfully young.

al.com

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ckkatz Sep 1, 2021 • 7:21:08am

Whelp… Looks like the storm that nailed the DC Region at 3AM went on to nail Philadelphia at dawn. I hope that our lizard friends up there have not been swept away.

Not quite as exciting as Decatur Deb’s Alabama experience last night. I don’t think that were any tornadoes. (Maybe this afternoon when the rest of Ida parades through town.) But lots of thunder, lightening, heavy downpours, power went out several times.

Woke up to lots of reports of downed trees and flooded roads. And, of course, a bad case of household blinking twelves.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict Sep 1, 2021 • 7:22:23am

re: #197 No Malarkey!

As Idaho enters a crisis stage of pandemic, the Governor said people could help by getting vaccinated. The Lt. Gov. has decided to run for Governor by being the anti-vaxxer candidate.

She’s a wingnuts, wingnut. She was (still is) also anti-masking, anti-social distancing and anti-lock down along with being a anti-vaxer. Gov. Little had to slap her down a while ago for overstepping her authority while he was out of State.

Idaho lieutenant governor banned mask mandates while the governor was out of town. It didn’t last.

“I do not like petty politics. I do not like political stunts over the rule of law,” Little said in a statement. “However, the significant consequences of the Lt. Governor’s flimsy executive order require me to clean up a mess.”

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo Sep 1, 2021 • 7:22:51am

re: #201 No Malarkey!

I don’t think so. Other than worship of Cheetolini, the most fundamental GOP beliefs are anti-abortion and pro gun. The pro-life movement provides the GOP it’s most reliable foot soldiers in election campaigns.

The GOP props up pro-life rather than the other way around.
Beyond that, I think a lot of the pro-life movement is fronting for Big Woo, and the lifers themselves would switch if they saw a scam they could run. Not all, of course, some are just violent nuts, but the driving force is the same as for creationism and general anti-science.
In Lubbock, the head of Right to Life is also an advocate of hoarding and price-gouging in emergencies and there is evidence that the RtL organization provides the framework for organized hoarding every time a real or alleged shortage appears. Needless to say, the same guy is also a major woo-peddler.

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Dopamine Fish Sep 1, 2021 • 7:24:06am

re: #209 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

In my dreams last night, I had a screaming argument with my family with a pretty epic speech about how their idea of “pro-life” and “right to life” had nothing to do with actually being pro-life. Unfortunately, the dream did not extend as far as to discern their response to said speech.

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Belafon Sep 1, 2021 • 7:30:59am

re: #209 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

The GOP props up pro-life rather than the other way around.
Beyond that, I think a lot of the pro-life movement is fronting for Big Woo, and the lifers themselves would switch if they saw a scam they could run. Not all, of course, some are just violent nuts, but the driving force is the same as for creationism and general anti-science.
In Lubbock, the head of Right to Life is also an advocate of hoarding and price-gouging in emergencies and there is evidence that the RtL organization provides the framework for organized hoarding every time a real or alleged shortage appears. Needless to say, the same guy is also a major woo-peddler.

The purpose of conservatives supporting abortion was to get the votes so they could keep racist policies in place.

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Belafon Sep 1, 2021 • 7:31:16am

Biden speech part of an extraordinary series of public statements and press conferences by administration leaders throughout this evacuation process. More transparency and access than we have had in a long time into a military action or a crisis.

— David Rothkopf (@djrothkopf) August 31, 2021

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 7:31:32am

In stupid court cases, this one from the United Kingdom:

So it turns out a person in England imported an alpaca from New Zealand, named Geronimo. The animal was meant to be a stud for raising more alpacas.

It turns out the alpaca tested positive for bovine tuberculosis. The disease is dangerous because it can spread to other camelids, cattle, and humans, along with other mammals such as badgers (there is a badger cull going on now in the United Kingdom over bovine tuberculosis).

The owner insisted the test was done wrong, so the Department of Environment, Food, and Rural Affairs retested the animal, coming up positive again. DEFRA then sought an order to put down the animal.

The owner, a veterinary nurse, sued and lost. She appealed to the High Court, and lost again. The court ordered the animal be destroyed by August 31; yesterday in biohazard suits with a court order and police escort the animal was removed from her ranch. The animal was euthanised, and today they will conduct an autopsy. (The police escort was because she’d gathered a protest crowd at her ranch to oppose removing the alpaca.)

There was no violence, though she claims the animal handlers tortured her alpaca by capturing it and putting it in a horse trailer.

During all this, the woman spun up a social media campaign across the world to defend her alpaca, calling the government’s action barbarous. She launched a petition on the UK site for petitions to the House of Commons, which rapidly gathered signatures to “save Geronimo.”

She is prohibited from personally viewing the autopsy of her alpaca.

She had applied in writing for an independent witness to be present when a post-mortem examination was carried out on Geronimo, who came to the UK from New Zealand in 2017.

But it was refused “for health and safety, Covid-19 and site security reasons”.

Ms Macdonald tweeted: “Citing Covid and security reasons are appallingly weak excuses to block an independent observer to the post-mortem of Geronimo.

“They denied me, a vet, to go and attend the post-mortem because they don’t want us to know the truth and we want full disclosure on that.

First off, fuqueyoo Mrs. Macdonald. I wouldn’t wish tuberculosis on anyone, and you want to spread it just as others want to spread Covid-19 (and considering you’re whinging about Covid-19 protocols, I imagine you’re at least in the “it’s not serious camp.”)

She is calling on the Environment Secretary to resign.

Yes it’s a big conspiracy, Mrs. Macdonald not-a-vet. Veterinary nurse≠Vet

Geronimo the alpaca: Owner blocked from observing post-mortem

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sagehen Sep 1, 2021 • 7:35:47am

re: #164 ericblair

I can beat that.

Important correction from @WSJ “An earlier version of this article incorrectly stated that Benjamin Netanyahu said Moses brought water from Iraq. He said the water was brought from a rock.” (via @WritesRights) https://t.co/LP4zqDw45n pic.twitter.com/InwjcvHHo7

— Stefan Simanowitz (@StefSimanowitz) March 28, 2018

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 7:38:00am

re: #213 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Background on Geronimo and all the derp surrounding the alpaca.

Geronimo the alpaca: Who is he and why did he hit the headlines? (BBC)

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp! Sep 1, 2021 • 7:38:07am

re: #135 jeffreyw

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips Sep 1, 2021 • 7:40:38am

re: #164 ericblair

Has to be The Mirror’s Hopkins one for me pic.twitter.com/QCTfxSSap6

— Emma Kelly (@TooManyEmmas) September 1, 2021

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp! Sep 1, 2021 • 7:41:59am

re: #132 Dopamine Fish

Even as a religious person, I will agree with your assertion that conservatism is a religion in itself, albeit most frequently intertwined with the tenets of Christianity in an attempt to give it a veneer of historical legitimacy, carrying the narrative of “Republicans are the Party of God” that has been established since the successful execution of the Southern Strategy.

Just by happenstance, I’ve been reading some work by people who were, in their time, conservative. So I feel the need to remind us all again, that the term “conservative” was hijacked by those humorless radicals now trying to stamp out freedom of thought et al., and they bear no resemblance to the real thing.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 7:43:02am

Football fan credits daughter with changing his racist beliefs (video interview, 2:46, BBC)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 7:48:09am

re: #218 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Just by happenstance, I’ve been reading some work by people who were, in their time, conservative. So I feel the need to remind us all again, that the term “conservative” was hijacked by those humorless radicals now trying to stamp out freedom of thought et al., and they bear no resemblance to the real thing.

How is that different than Edmond Burke opining after monarchies started falling in Europe, the best way to oppose democracy would be to manipulate it through capitalism to subvert the will of voters?

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict Sep 1, 2021 • 7:48:48am

re: #213 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hell even the Ladies out at the TUR were shaking their heads over this. You DON’T want an infected animal anywhere near YOUR herd (or anyone else’s for that matter). The economic loss would be devastating to even a large breeder/ranch.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp! Sep 1, 2021 • 7:49:13am

re: #154 No Malarkey!

I continue to expect that by the end of next year there will be no open abortion clinics in about half the states, and poor women in those states will have no option other than illegal abortions. Rich women and their daughters will just fly to the blue state of their chosing when they want to end a pregnancy.

Or theJane collective will resurrect itself. Or those poor women will show the world what they think about the law at the voting booth. Or…

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo Sep 1, 2021 • 7:49:47am

re: #164 ericblair

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips Sep 1, 2021 • 7:50:48am

Husband, wife, infant daughter and family dog found dead two weeks ago with no discernible cause

California hiking trail where family and dog found dead is ordered closed because of “unknown hazards” https://t.co/B9vr5RUAvn

— CBS News (@CBSNews) September 1, 2021

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Citizen K Sep 1, 2021 • 7:51:39am

The GOP will *keep* fundraising as their base in other states will DEMAND similar laws as to Texas. And Dems will say “this is very, very bad.” But they’re not going to DO anything. They’ll just hope people are stay pissed off and *frightened* until next November.

— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) September 1, 2021

Oh for….

What the fuck are Dems actually supposed to fucking do? Where are the numbers to pass anything to actually prevent this? You want an expanded court? We can’t even get a 50 vote threshold for less contentious shit because voters didn’t come out enough last year, and now people are fucking rabblerousing to hand Dems even more devastating defeats next year because you openly hold them more accountable for this shit happening then the Republicans who are actually passing this odious shit, are actually the ones who rammed through these shitty justices signing off on this shit, and are the ones actually strongarming their way through voting law decimation to essentially eternal, untouchable power. What the fuck are we supposed to fucking do without the numbers?

Tell me, instead of holding the entirety of Dems responsible for the GOP’s (and 2 extremely notable Dem defectors) sins?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 7:54:54am

re: #225 Citizen K

I learned here about the Green Lantern theory of politics. It would seem Mr. Mystal is a subscriber to that.

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Belafon Sep 1, 2021 • 7:55:47am

re: #225 Citizen K

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Oh for….

What the fuck are Dems actually supposed to fucking do? Where are the numbers to pass anything to actually prevent this? You want an expanded court? We can’t even get a 50 vote threshold for less contentious shit because voters didn’t come out enough last year, and now people are fucking rabblerousing to hand Dems even more devastating defeats next year because you openly hold them more accountable for this shit happening then the Republicans who are actually passing this odious shit, are actually the ones who rammed through these shitty justices signing off on this shit, and are the ones actually strongarming their way through voting law decimation to essentially eternal, untouchable power. What the fuck are we supposed to fucking do without the numbers?

Tell me, instead of holding the entirety of Dems responsible for the GOP’s (and 2 extremely notable Dem defectors) sins?

Be specific, Elie, which “They” in the Democratic party are you talking about?

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Citizen K Sep 1, 2021 • 7:57:11am

re: #226 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I learned here about the Green Lantern theory of politics. It would seem Mr. Mystal is a subscriber to that.

The Green Lantern Theory of politics is honest to god one of the most toxic fucking things to come out of the last 15 or so years.

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No Malarkey! Sep 1, 2021 • 7:57:11am

re: #222 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Or theJane collective will resurrect itself. Or those poor women will show the world what they think about the law at the voting booth. Or…

It would be gratifying if the ending of the right to abortion triggered a massive anti-GOP backlash at the polls.

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Eclectic Cyborg Sep 1, 2021 • 8:00:56am

re: #228 Citizen K

The Green Lantern Theory of politics is honest to god one of the most toxic fucking things to come out of the last 15 or so years.

I had never heard of this theory before today so I just read up on it and you’re right, it’s fucking stupid.

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Citizen K Sep 1, 2021 • 8:01:37am

re: #229 No Malarkey!

It would be gratifying if the ending of the right to abortion triggered a massive anti-GOP backlash at the polls.

The problem seems to be that even if we can ride a backlash wave into more stable power, the courts are almost expressly designed at the moment to ‘No U’ us into irrelevancy no matter what we do, and the system is utterly hardwired to lay blame solely at Dem feet when this happens because fuck everything.

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No Malarkey! Sep 1, 2021 • 8:02:20am

re: #208 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

She’s a wingnuts, wingnut. She was (still is) also anti-masking, anti-social distancing and anti-lock down along with being a anti-vaxer. Gov. Little had to slap her down a while ago for overstepping her authority while he was out of State.

Idaho lieutenant governor banned mask mandates while the governor was out of town. It didn’t last.

“I do not like petty politics. I do not like political stunts over the rule of law,” Little said in a statement. “However, the significant consequences of the Lt. Governor’s flimsy executive order require me to clean up a mess.”

The Republican governor of Idaho says there are only 4 ICU beds available in the entire state due to the surge in COVID cases.

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) September 1, 2021

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 8:03:42am

re: #231 Citizen K

The problem seems to be that even if we can ride a backlash wave into more stable power, the courts are almost expressly designed at the moment to ‘No U’ us into irrelevancy no matter what we do, and the system is utterly hardwired to lay blame solely at Dem feet when this happens because fuck everything.

A large enough wave (it would need to be really large) would be sufficient to launch a constitutional amendment to fix abortion rights in the Constitution.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 8:06:09am

re: #232 No Malarkey!

If this turns into a knock-down drag out between the governor and the lieutenant governor, could a Democrat slide in and win the seat?

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Citizen K Sep 1, 2021 • 8:07:44am

re: #233 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

A large enough wave (it would need to be really large) would be sufficient to launch a constitutional amendment to fix abortion rights in the Constitution.

Just with the way things are laid out now, institutionally, the GOP is more likely to get a functional supermajority to pass amendments with than we are.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 8:08:14am

‘Little called his decision a last-ditch effort before he is—for the first time—forced to activate statewide crisis triage that would put medical professionals in a position to decide who lives or dies.’ https://t.co/wQzNzXyX63

— Secrecy Envelope (@bigstape) September 1, 2021

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Dopamine Fish Sep 1, 2021 • 8:10:00am

re: #230 Eclectic Cyborg

I had never heard of this theory before today so I just read up on it and you’re right, it’s fucking stupid.

I had to go look it up as well. Wow. But it perfectly describes so much. I think, however, there’s another explanation for it: The media has, for a long time, either lauded or vilified the President for things he has very little actual control over. (See, e.g., the price of gas, or the action on the stock market, both of which he has very little direct influence over except in announcing policies that would directly impact the economy.) Americans have grown conditioned to simply saying, “Everything is the President’s fault,” without truly looking at the degree to which the President actually has the ability to impact the thing that is broken. This extends now to the Democrats as a whole, who are not in a position to govern with the majority, thanks to the lack of a true majority. And this looks to continue, now that Republicans are ramming home their voter suppression efforts and the Supreme Court has signaled that they approve of such shenanigannery.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict Sep 1, 2021 • 8:10:05am

re: #232 No Malarkey!

Yep. And St. Lukes is curtailing elective surgeries that require an over night stay due to lack of beds/staff. Little should have invoked a State wide mandate on masks a while back but weaseled out by leaving it up to the individual Counties/Cities on whether to require them or not. Results were sadly predictable.

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No Malarkey! Sep 1, 2021 • 8:10:25am

re: #234 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

If this turns into a knock-down drag out between the governor and the lieutenant governor, could a Democrat slide in and win the seat?

I would assume that would be a GOP primary fight, but I don’t know anything about Idaho elections.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict Sep 1, 2021 • 8:11:38am

re: #234 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

If this turns into a knock-down drag out between the governor and the lieutenant governor, could a Democrat slide in and win the seat?

Nope. Idaho is to reliably rethuglican.

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sagehen Sep 1, 2021 • 8:11:50am

re: #224 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Husband, wife, infant daughter and family dog found dead two weeks ago with no discernible cause

methane?

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp! Sep 1, 2021 • 8:13:28am

re: #220 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

How is that different than Edmond Burke opining after monarchies started falling in Europe, the best way to oppose democracy would be to manipulate it through capitalism to subvert the will of voters?

Sorry, I don’t see what your question has to do with what I said.

(As to Edmund Burke, he had just been a witness to the French Revolution, with the “Republic of Virtue” and the Terror for dessert. Naturally that affected his thinking.)

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No Malarkey! Sep 1, 2021 • 8:14:17am

It’s GQP canon now that the Taliban hung prisoners by helicopter.

Donald Trump Jr. has changed his Twitter banner to a Biden-mocking image featuring a man appearing to be hanged from a helicopter, though, again, the helicopter execution story was imaginary. pic.twitter.com/zcEzg5VI1b

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 1, 2021

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 8:16:41am

We want to be clear: Our hospitals are in a dire situation.

This past weekend, for the first time in the pandemic, we learned that there were no ICU beds available in the state. Zero.

— Utah Gov. Spencer J. Cox (@GovCox) August 31, 2021

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Sherlock Hound Sep 1, 2021 • 8:17:16am

re: #230 Eclectic Cyborg

I had never heard of this theory before today so I just read up on it and you’re right, it’s fucking stupid.

I credit Oliver Willis with this. He has a real sports-talk-caller mentality.
(“We should trade to get Mahomes!” “OK, who do we give up for him?” “I ain’t the GM, don’t ask me!”)

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sagehen Sep 1, 2021 • 8:18:39am

re: #243 No Malarkey!

It’s GQP canon now that the Taliban hung prisoners by helicopter.

But they approve of Pinochet throwing people out of helicopters.

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The Ghost of a Flea Sep 1, 2021 • 8:26:39am

re: #246 sagehen

But they approve of Pinochet throwing people out of helicopters.

Taliban helicopter execution fantasy involves a mullah beard, and is therefore an outrage.

Pinochet helicopter execution fantasy involves an operator beard, and is therefore based.

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GlutenFreeJesus Sep 1, 2021 • 8:30:36am

Another local loser lost his job for being a terrorist.

chicagotribune.com

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Colère Tueur de Lapin Sep 1, 2021 • 8:31:16am

re: #41 JOE 🥓

The show Warrior Nun has explained that the armor of god ain’t what you think it was and maybe you shouldn’t be fucking around with that shit — very complicated entanglements going on there *snork*

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo Sep 1, 2021 • 8:31:29am

How long before we start seeing Abortion Chaser lawyers advertising in Texas?

Is that slut next door thinking about killing her baby? Call Bob Taliban today! 1-800-PRO-LIFE. He’ll get you paid! pic.twitter.com/bv6JBa3tth

— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) September 1, 2021

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 8:34:47am

re: #242 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Sorry, I don’t see what your question has to do with what I said.

(As to Edmund Burke, he had just been a witness to the French Revolution, with the “Republic of Virtue” and the Terror for dessert. Naturally that affected his thinking.)

Burke was a leading sceptic with respect to democracy. While admitting that theoretically in some cases it might be desirable, he insisted a democratic government in Britain in his day would not only be inept, but also oppressive. He opposed democracy for three basic reasons. First, government required a degree of intelligence and breadth of knowledge of the sort that occurred rarely among the common people. Second, he thought that if they had the vote, common people had dangerous and angry passions that could be aroused easily by demagogues, fearing that the authoritarian impulses that could be empowered by these passions would undermine cherished traditions and established religion, leading to violence and confiscation of property. Third, Burke warned that democracy would create a tyranny over unpopular minorities, who needed the protection of the upper classes.

He was a complicated man, and wouldn’t fit neatly into contemporary politics in the USA.

That said, he was a supporter of the aristocracy (being a member himself), and stated that the reason France went through a revolution was not because aristocracy failed, but the aristocrats failed their aristocracy. (Same argument the GOP uses today about conservatism, it can’t fail, it can only be failed.)

He supported the idea of American Independence rather than punishing the USA for rebellion. His idea was that the colonies would be far more pliant and controllable through the very profitable bank interest rates the United Kingdom would still get than any sort of retribution for rebellion.

He opposed the slave trade and thought anyone who enslaved people should not be allowed to sit in Parliament.

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lawhawk Sep 1, 2021 • 8:35:00am

re: #250 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

How long before we see a slew of these barbaric state laws crop up all along the Old South and try to get bounties on women who cross state lines to get reproductive health care where it is still available.

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Eclectic Cyborg Sep 1, 2021 • 8:36:35am

This new Texas law is going to cause untold numbers of messes and broken relationships.

Prove me wrong.

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Sufficient unto the day... Sep 1, 2021 • 8:37:54am

So, this is bananas, and horrifying, but the concept sounds cool…

NEOM: City Of The Future or $600 Billion Stunt? | Answers With Joe

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Sherlock Hound Sep 1, 2021 • 8:38:25am

My town:

“In this house, we welcome refugees, but not if they take our parking spots, or need a duplex or affordable apartment on our block, or if their kids will go to school with our kids, or if it means a tall building that will block my view of Ursa Major on the solstice, or https://t.co/lTIVUghW5E

— (((Matthew Lewis))) is a NO vote on the recall (@mateosfo) August 26, 2021

I hate those “In our house” signs. Yes, we know you Care So Very Much. In public, anyway.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 8:42:22am

re: #244 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Cox: Anti-maskers and extreme maskers “need to get over ourselves a little bit.” Common sense is missing from the discussion.

Q. What is the next step? Is there one?

Cox: That’s up to legislative leadership. Not a huge appetite for big vax mandates. #utpol

— Robert Gehrke (@RobertGehrke) August 31, 2021

He’s still opposed to masks and vaccine mandates, even as his state runs out of ICU beds. “Urging” people to get vaccinated is not enough.

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Rightwingconspirator Sep 1, 2021 • 8:42:42am

I had no idea we sold/gave Afghanistan magic aircraft. So magic they could fail readiness tests a month ago yet present a regional threat tomorrow. Reminds me of the special magic immigrants that are too lazy to work but take all our jobs.///

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp! Sep 1, 2021 • 8:45:09am

re: #251 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

He was a complicated man, and wouldn’t fit neatly into contemporary politics in the USA.

That said, he was a supporter of the aristocracy (being a member himself), and stated that the reason France went through a revolution was not because aristocracy failed, but the aristocrats failed their aristocracy. (Same argument the GOP uses today about conservatism, it can’t fail, it can only be failed.)

He supported the idea of American Independence rather than punishing the USA for rebellion. His idea was that the colonies would be far more pliant and controllable through the very profitable bank interest rates the United Kingdom would still get than any sort of retribution for rebellion.

He opposed the slave trade and thought anyone who enslaved people should not be allowed to sit in Parliament.

None of which, as far as I can see, has anything to do with what I said. Still not understanding your question.

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lawhawk Sep 1, 2021 • 8:45:18am

re: #257 Rightwingconspirator

I had no idea we sold/gave Afghanistan magic aircraft. So magic they could fail readiness tests a month ago yet present a regional threat tomorrow. Reminds me of the special magic immigrants that are too lazy to work but take all our jobs.///

Shrodinger’s Aircraft. They are simultaneously an urgent and imminent threat and incapable of powered or unpowered flight because all the components required for flight have been inactivated and can’t be readily replaced by those who now control said aircraft.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 8:45:30am

re: #252 lawhawk

How long before we see a slew of these barbaric state laws crop up all along the Old South and try to get bounties on women who cross state lines to get reproductive health care where it is still available.

My understanding is it is a crime to leave a state to commit an act in another state which would be illegal at home (IANAL).

It is also a crime to aid or abet someone from outside the state to commit a crime inside the state (sending money to get an abortion after the six-week period, organising caravans to take women out of state, &c).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 8:48:02am

re: #258 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

None of which, as far as I can see, has anything to do with what I said. Still not understanding your question.

I was comparing your description of today’s “humourless radicals” to Mr. Conservative of yore. Perhaps my comparison is strained a bit too far.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo Sep 1, 2021 • 8:48:55am

re: #246 sagehen

But they approve of Pinochet throwing people out of helicopters.

French general Marcel Bigeard was “credited” with perfecting the air drop method of suspect disposal in Algeria in the 1950s. The French Algerian army was the first to use helicopters on a really large scale, having more than 400 of the machines on hand in 1958, and they got pretty creative while they were at it.
The bodies sometimes washed up on the beaches, an unpleasant interruption to many a seaside holiday. They were known as “Bigeard shrimps.”

Over the course of the Battle of Algiers, the 10th Parachute Division arrested about 24,000 Muslims of whom about 4,000 “disappeared”, as those who were murdered were euphemistically described.

Bigeard himself was never prosecuted and, like many French officials with dubious records, went on to a series of high posts in government. He died in 2010 at age 94.

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lawhawk Sep 1, 2021 • 8:49:35am

They’re far less likely to try and overthrow the US government than Trump and the fellow GOPers you support.

I’d take them over right wing treasonweasels and insurrectionist enablers like yourself.

— lawhawk #vaxxingforafriend (@lawhawk) September 1, 2021

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Sep 1, 2021 • 8:50:13am

I was supposed to take my kittens to the vet this morning. I took one kitten to the vet. The other kitten won the cat carrier battle, maiming me, and I ran out of time to capture him.

He was back in my lap as soon as I got home, so I don’t think I damaged our relationship as much as I thought I had.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 8:50:53am

re: #263 lawhawk

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo Sep 1, 2021 • 8:51:54am

re: #262 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

French general Marcel Bigeard was “credited” with perfecting the air drop method of suspect disposal in Algeria in the 1950s. The French Algerian army was the first to use helicopters on a really large scale, having more than 400 of the machines on hand in 1958, and they got pretty creative while they were at it.
The bodies sometimes washed up on the beaches, an unpleasant interruption to many a seaside holiday. They were known as “Bigeard shrimps.”

Bigeard himself was never prosecuted and, like many French officials with dubious records, went on to a series of high posts in government. He died in 2010 at age 94.

Worth noting that many of the victims of the Paris Massacre of 1961 were also thrown into water, though not from aircraft. More than 100 bodies were fished out of the Seine, usually with their hands bound.

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PhillyPretzel Sep 1, 2021 • 8:55:06am

re: #200 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And I am home today because I used a sick day. I was subjected to a Market-Frankford Line train that was playing constantly, “Please Stand Clear of Doors.” This went on for my whole ride into Center City.

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Dangerman Sep 1, 2021 • 8:55:35am

oh happy day
linux update.

i havent had to reboot into windows in 2 weeks. i think i’m pretty much done with it.

i’ve been having a devil of a time scheduling freefilesync jobs to sync to my gdrive account through the cron scheduler

the jobs work fine interactively

granted there is much i am still learning
like capitals and smalls matter in file names but extensions dont.

i thought i had a path or privileges problem. tried what i could.

after two weeks i decided to go back to the beginning and reread some blogs again

then i saw it. it was right there all the time but i didnt see the significance.

then the aha! moment:

I added “env display=:0” to the command and presto, my first cron job worked.

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teleskiguy Sep 1, 2021 • 8:55:54am

The Legal Minds Who Tried to Overturn the Election for Trump Are Being Welcomed Back Into Polite Society | Slate

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The Ghost of a Flea Sep 1, 2021 • 8:59:43am

re: #259 lawhawk

Shrodinger’s Aircraft. They are simultaneously an urgent and imminent threat and incapable of powered or unpowered flight because all the components required for flight have been inactivated and can’t be readily replaced by those who now control said aircraft.

Look, people have decided that reality isn’t spicy enough so the imagineers are working overtime.

Taliban with jets has zazz. It leads to speculation about how we need to be tougher and explode more people. It provides a sexy twist that pundits can use as a springboard for pious extended metaphors for why the war just magically failed in a few months.

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Mattand Sep 1, 2021 • 9:01:30am

re: #267 PhillyPretzel

And I am home today because I used a sick day. I was subjected to a Market-Frankford Line train that was playing constantly, “Please Stand Clear of Doors.” This went on for my whole ride into Center City.

LOL, that’s the SEPTA promise: “We guarantee a unique train ride, every time!”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 9:02:50am

re: #267 PhillyPretzel

And I am home today because I used a sick day. I was subjected to a Market-Frankford Line train that was playing constantly, “Please Stand Clear of Doors.” This went on for my whole ride into Center City.

Ida is still heading your way. It has been declared post-tropical, but is still intensifying.

Post-Tropical Cyclone Ida Advisory Number 26
NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD AL092021
1100 AM EDT Wed Sep 01 2021

…IDA NOW EXTRATROPICAL WITH WIDESPREAD HEAVY RAIN AND AREAS OF
LIFE THREATENING FLASH FLOODING TODAY AND TONIGHT NEAR THE TRACK…
…AN ENHANCED RISK FOR SEVERAL TORNADOES ACROSS PARTS OF THE
MID-ATLANTIC THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING…

SUMMARY OF 1100 AM EDT…1500 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————-
LOCATION…38.3N 80.2W
ABOUT 45 MI…70 KM SSW OF ELKINS WEST VIRGINIA
ABOUT 70 MI…110 KM N OF ROANOKE VIRGINIA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…30 MPH…45 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…ENE OR 60 DEGREES AT 25 MPH…41 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…1000 MB…29.53 INCHES

The storm is moving at 25 mph, so to the right of the track it has the force of a moderate tropical storm.

Post-Tropical Cyclone Ida Advisory Number 26 (NWS Weather Prediction Center, more at the link)

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Mattand Sep 1, 2021 • 9:05:18am

re: #272 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Ida is still heading your way. It has been declared post-tropical, but is still intensifying.

The Phils already cancelled tonight’s game, and according to my watch, it’s going to be non-stop rain around 5PM EST.

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PhillyPretzel Sep 1, 2021 • 9:05:28am

re: #272 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I know. Another reason why I decided to use a sick day.

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Rightwingconspirator Sep 1, 2021 • 9:07:00am

It would be cool if the journalists who spent the last two weeks rending their garments over the fate of women’s rights in Afghanistan maybe spent a few minutes today giving a shit about women’s rights here at home.

— The Hoarse Whisperer (@TheRealHoarse) September 1, 2021

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Jay C Sep 1, 2021 • 9:07:57am

re: #259 lawhawk

Shrodinger’s Aircraft. They are simultaneously an urgent and imminent threat and incapable of powered or unpowered flight because all the components required for flight have been inactivated and can’t be readily replaced by those who now control said aircraft.

Inorite?
Watching clips of the Talibanis strolling through hangars inspecting their “equipment” troves looked to me more like they were in a junkyard than an arsenal.
And the breathless reportage of “23,000 Humvees” left behind? It sounds like the biggest threat there is going to be to the used-Humvee market.

BTW, can any arms-savvy Lizards explain the other big haul the Taliban reportedly got: of “980,000 rifles”. What type are these likely to be? US (M-16 type?)? I thought the Afghans generally used/preferred the good old Kalashnikov types…?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 9:10:15am

The remnants of Pacific Hurricane Nora are spreading across Arizona and Colorado today. The storm is pushing back the cold front north again as a warm front (after Ida did it). That front will wind us up with thunderstorms today. By this evening, the remnants of Nora are going to blow through here.

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Eclectic Cyborg Sep 1, 2021 • 9:10:38am

Can we at least get the virus under control at home here first before we start an endless bitch session about Afghanistan?

Anyone?

Bueller?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 9:12:08am

re: #274 PhillyPretzel

I know. Another reason why I decided to use a sick day.

Then there’s this:

TORNADOES: Several tornadoes are probable across portions of the
Mid Atlantic today, mainly during the afternoon and evening hours.

wpc.ncep.noaa.gov

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lawhawk Sep 1, 2021 • 9:14:12am

re: #276 Jay C

The Afghan military that trained on the use of these aircraft and tanks and other vehicles had such a hard time maintaining them, that they had separate contracts with American mercs to maintain them. They could barely fly them too. It takes years of training and regular practice, and they will likely rust away under the new ownership.

And that’s the issue - the defense contractors have lost on their continued contracts with a corrupt regime that didn’t care if the equipment was even usable since everything was paid for by American taxpayers.

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Rightwingconspirator Sep 1, 2021 • 9:14:16am

re: #276 Jay C

…BTW, can any arms-savvy Lizards explain the other big haul the Taliban reportedly got: of “980,000 rifles”. What type are these likely to be? US (M-16 type?)? I thought the Afghans generally used/preferred the good old Kalashnikov types…?

“Only dropped once, never fired”.
jk of course, but the right counts each and every dollar, rifle, bullet, and pencil for 20 years as captured and immediately useful to the Taliban. Night vision gear? Yes, but the US/major state exclusive on that was going away for years already.

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Belafon Sep 1, 2021 • 9:14:37am

re: #256 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Though a study mentioned at #188 indicates they are effective.

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PhillyPretzel Sep 1, 2021 • 9:14:45am

re: #279 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This is the local hazardous conditions report. I have no doubt it will change a few times before the day is over.
forecast.weather.gov

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Dopamine Fish Sep 1, 2021 • 9:16:07am

re: #280 lawhawk

The Afghan military that trained on the use of these aircraft and tanks and other vehicles had such a hard time maintaining them, that they had separate contracts with American mercs to maintain them. They could barely fly them too. It takes years of training and regular practice, and they will likely rust away under the new ownership.

And that’s the issue - the defense contractors have lost on their continued contracts with a corrupt regime that didn’t care if the equipment was even usable since everything was paid for by American taxpayers.

Shades of Iran, where everybody freaked out when we left a wing of F-14 Tomcat air superiority fighters when we abandoned the Shah - except they could only get parts for them from us, and we weren’t selling, so the fleet rapidly aged and deteriorated to the point where I don’t even know if any of them are still flying anymore.

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lawhawk Sep 1, 2021 • 9:16:17am

re: #279 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yup. Tornado watch is up for Eastern VA, Eastern MD, DC, and DE until 7pm tonight. I expect watches to start popping up in PA, NJ, and NY this afternoon.

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Barefoot Grin Sep 1, 2021 • 9:16:54am

I get a daily newsletter on events in China and it’s pretty amazing what is going on. It’s not just a limit on how much gaming people can do. There is an full-throttle anti-corruption campaign underway that is even targeting some of Xi’s old allies. It spans tech, the celebrity world, private tutoring companies, bitcoin, etc. Titans of capital and industry are feeling a distinct chill as the state is hammering their market activities and making examples of the ultra-wealthy. Shades of 1950s Maoism.

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teleskiguy Sep 1, 2021 • 9:17:37am

Police Say Demoralized Officers Are Quitting In Droves. Labor Data Says No. | The Marshall Project

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Belafon Sep 1, 2021 • 9:18:15am

re: #282 Belafon

reload

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 9:18:44am

The process of redrawing Texas’ political maps is barely underway.

But it’s already drawn a federal lawsuit filed by two Democratic state senators who argue that state lawmakers cannot legally redraw the state’s legislative maps this fall. #TXlege https://t.co/pJeplxQQ70

— Texas Tribune (@TexasTribune) September 1, 2021

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Belafon Sep 1, 2021 • 9:20:15am

re: #286 Barefoot Grin

I get a daily newsletter on events in China and it’s pretty amazing what is going on. It’s not just a limit on how much gaming people can do. There is an full-throttle anti-corruption campaign underway that is even targeting some of Xi’s old allies. It spans tech, the celebrity world, private tutoring companies, bitcoin, etc. Titans of capital and industry are feeling a distinct chill as the state is hammering their market activities and making examples of the ultra-wealthy. Shades of 1950s Maoism.

I think he’s going to find being just the factory for capitalism in other countries is going to become hard to do.

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teleskiguy Sep 1, 2021 • 9:23:18am

Grand jury returns 32-count indictment against Aurora officers, paramedics in Elijah McClain’s death | The Colorado Sun

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 9:23:57am

I received two shots of the #Pfizer #COVID19Vaccine a while ago.

But now, just waiting on the “#Maderna” #Covid19Vaccine shots from the @NRA to update my #Covid19Vaccine card. https://t.co/J5jTZFkTij

— Dr. Steven Whitaker (@DrSWhitaker) September 1, 2021

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The Ghost of a Flea Sep 1, 2021 • 9:24:19am

re: #280 lawhawk

The Afghan military that trained on the use of these aircraft and tanks and other vehicles had such a hard time maintaining them, that they had separate contracts with American mercs to maintain them. They could barely fly them too. It takes years of training and regular practice, and they will likely rust away under the new ownership.

And that’s the issue - the defense contractors have lost on their continued contracts with a corrupt regime that didn’t care if the equipment was even usable since everything was paid for by American taxpayers.

In the context of the giant multi-theater contractor feed trough of the two forever wars, “had to” bears skepticism.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 9:25:54am

re: #287 teleskiguy

Police Say Demoralized Officers Are Quitting In Droves. Labor Data Says No. | The Marshall Project

Imagine that. They lied.

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Mattand Sep 1, 2021 • 9:26:43am

re: #279 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Then there’s this:

TORNADOES: Several tornadoes are probable across portions of the
Mid Atlantic today, mainly during the afternoon and evening hours.

wpc.ncep.noaa.gov

About three years ago, we got a warning around 3 AM; both of our phones were going berserk. We dutifully grabbed the dog and relocated to the basement.

As we’re sitting there, a slow, low, steady rumble started surrounding us. Best as I can describe it, it was like a subway car slowly rolling into a station.

I’m looking at her and she’s looking at me with a “Well, shit, that ain’t good” stare. Eventually the sound dissipates.

I’m sure that kind of stuff is old hat for you, but as a lifelong East Coaster, that was the first time I ever dealt with that. My partner did spend some time growing up in Fort Worth, but she said they never really had any major experiences with twisters. I’ve visited her old stomping grounds, and it’s a lot hillier than I expected it to be.

I think that’s the rub: we ain’t supposed to have that stuff around here. The last tornado I remember was one that touched down in Center City Philly in 1989: it took out the corner of a parking garage at 2nd and Pine; travelled across the Delaware and under the Ben Franklin Bridge into Camden; damaged a row home there and then dissipated.

Tornados suck, pun intended.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 1, 2021 • 9:34:35am

re: #223 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Newspaper forced to make apology after very unfortunate typo in article suggests musician was on “drugs” instead of “drums”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 9:37:03am

Moisture associated with what was once TC Nora will produce thunderstorms with heavy rain that will create mainly localized areas of flash flooding from the Southwest into parts of the Great Basin and Central/Southern Rockies through Thursday morning. pic.twitter.com/2ciQN5tBgs

— National Weather Service (@NWS) September 1, 2021

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 1, 2021 • 9:37:16am

re: #260 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My understanding is it is a crime to leave a state to commit an act in another state which would be illegal at home (IANAL).

It is also a crime to aid or abet someone from outside the state to commit a crime inside the state (sending money to get an abortion after the six-week period, organising caravans to take women out of state, &c).

There was a time when abortions were illegal in Germany but legal in the Netherlands, and there were cases of border guards subjecting young women to medical examinations upon re-entering the country if they suspected those women had crossed to border to obtain an abortion.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 9:40:15am

re: #298 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was a time when abortions were illegal in Germany but legal in the Netherlands, and there were cases of border guards subjecting young women to medical examinations upon re-entering the country if they suspected those women had crossed to border to obtain an abortion.

Were they looking for a foetus up there? Or just hassling young women because they could?

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The Ghost of a Flea Sep 1, 2021 • 9:40:55am

And to get back on some bullshit I haven’t been publicly vexed about in awhile:

Once again privatization of part of government operations has turned out to be insanely expensive, less efficient, and have no oversight.

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Dangerman Sep 1, 2021 • 9:40:56am

re: #257 Rightwingconspirator

I had no idea we sold/gave Afghanistan magic aircraft. So magic they could fail readiness tests a month ago yet present a regional threat tomorrow. Reminds me of the special magic immigrants that are too lazy to work but take all our jobs.///

alls you gotta do is take out the distributor caps

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 9:41:16am

Workers in southern Louisiana rescued a cow that got wedged in a tree during severe flooding from Hurricane Ida.

Video shows employees of the St. Bernard Parish government cutting out branches to free the animal. pic.twitter.com/9eh6sTgRSt

— NPR (@NPR) September 1, 2021

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PhillyPretzel Sep 1, 2021 • 9:43:56am

As I said I know the map will change a few times before the day is over. Here is the latest one: weather.gov

304

The Ghost of a Flea Sep 1, 2021 • 9:44:47am

The way Texas’s anti-choice law actually works in practice is so diabolical and dystopian that it almost sounds fake. A Rube Goldberg machine of state-sanctioned misogyny. A quick thread on what the Supreme Court allowed to take effect last night: https://t.co/CaZRYc95TP pic.twitter.com/tOw90lri3g

— Jay Willis (@jaywillis) September 1, 2021

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 9:45:28am

The district asked the principal to remove a picture of him celebrating his anniversary with his wife, who is white, from his facebook to “to avoid further controversy.”https://t.co/UXeqvAO2QU

— Steven Rich (@dataeditor) September 1, 2021

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ckkatz Sep 1, 2021 • 9:46:31am

1 Yes! What Lawhawk said!
a. The Afghan military had significant issues maintaining a lot of the equipment. And it will be more challenging for the Taliban groups.
b. That a lot of American companies made money off the equipment.

2. The corollary to 1.b above is that a lot of American companies will make money selling replacement equipment to the US. They are not displeased with this.

3. All that equipment was, obviously, not enough for the Afghan military to win the war.

4. There will be ‘leakage’ (aka theft) on the equipment as it turned into the Taliban. And after as well.

5. A lot of it will not be usable by the Taliban based upon their doctrine, training, organization, and factionalism.

(Yes, the Taliban are divided into multiple factions. For example, when Kabul fell, the nearest ‘Taliban’ were from the Haqqani network. The Taliban senior leadership sent several thousand militia from their homebaseof Kandahar to Kabul. Presumably in case the Haqqani clan tried something.)

6. I suspect that the numbers, which seem to keep going up, are not anywhere near that large. (I also suspect that the number inflation is driven by politics.)

..snip…
The $83 billion number is not invented out of whole cloth. But it reflects all the money spent to train, equip and house the Afghan military and police — so weapons are just a part of that. At this point, no one really knows the value of the equipment that was seized by the Taliban.
…snip…
A 2017 Government Accountability Office report estimated that about 29 percent of the funds spent on the Afghan security forces between 2005 and 2016 went to equipment and transportation. (The transportation costs related to transporting equipment and for contracted pilots and airplanes for transporting officials to meetings. There appears to be no way to segregate transportation spending.)
…snip…
That’s certainly a lot of money. Between 2005 and 2016, U.S. taxpayers paid for 76,000 vehicles (such as 43,000 Ford Ranger pickup trucks, 22,000 Humvees and 900 mine-resistant ambush-protected vehicles known as MRAPs), 600,000 weapons and more than 200 aircraft, according to GAO.
…snip…
“No one has any accounting of exactly what survived the last weeks of the collapse and fell into Taliban hands, and even before the collapse, SIGAR had publicly reported no accounting was possible in many districts,” said Anthony H. Cordesman of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. “In rough terms, however, if the ANDSF could not sustain it without foreign contractors, the Taliban will have very serious problems in operating it. That covers most aircraft and many electronics and heavier weapons.”

No, the Taliban did not seize $83 billion of U.S. weapons
washingtonpost.com

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Eclectic Cyborg Sep 1, 2021 • 9:46:46am

Can we assume that other red states are already rushing to pass new laws like the Texas one since SCOTUS has signaled “Yeah, we’re cool with that.” ?

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ckkatz Sep 1, 2021 • 9:48:33am

re: #302 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

‘Tree cow’ > ‘Post turtle’ :)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 9:51:17am

You should definitely not use a VPN to lodge fake tips with the “prolifewhistleblower” site. Please, don’t do that, it’d be rude.

If you’re unclear on what a VPN is or which to get, don’t google “wirecutter review VPN” for an easy guide. https://t.co/iC0sJLo1me

— Max Kennerly (@MaxKennerly) September 1, 2021

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Belafon Sep 1, 2021 • 9:51:19am

re: #260 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My understanding is it is a crime to leave a state to commit an act in another state which would be illegal at home (IANAL).

It is also a crime to aid or abet someone from outside the state to commit a crime inside the state (sending money to get an abortion after the six-week period, organising caravans to take women out of state, &c).

Doubt it. Otherwise there would be little gambling in Oklahoma.

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Eclectic Cyborg Sep 1, 2021 • 9:52:07am

re: #309 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

LOL. I like that approach.

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Belafon Sep 1, 2021 • 9:52:20am

re: #309 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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I’m thinking the daughters of every state Republican should be on the list. Yep. I’m going there.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 9:53:10am

It does seem that way sometimes.

I didn’t think it was possible but things keep getting worse.

— Mary L Trump (@MaryLTrump) September 1, 2021

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teleskiguy Sep 1, 2021 • 9:54:00am

re: #304 The Ghost of a Flea

State sanctioned persecution.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 9:54:34am

re: #312 Belafon

I’m thinking the daughters of every state Republican should be on the list. Yep. I’m going there.

And wives. And mothers. And aunts. And sisters.

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Dangerman Sep 1, 2021 • 9:54:53am

re: #308 ckkatz

‘Tree cow’ > ‘Post turtle’ :)

the cow did it on its own

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 9:55:45am

re: #314 teleskiguy

State sanctioned persecution.

The Texas GOP just created a cottage industry for violent incel stalkers. #TexasTaliban

— Devin Nunes’ Alt-Mom (@NunesAlt) September 1, 2021

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The Ghost of a Flea Sep 1, 2021 • 9:55:45am

re: #314 teleskiguy

State sanctioned persecution.

Legal embodiment of what underlies authoritarians: the technical language of the law permits me to do this, there is no larger compassion or justice that stops me.

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teleskiguy Sep 1, 2021 • 9:58:26am

airline? train? gas station who sold fuel?

— (((Leslie Reckler))) (@LeslieRthis) September 1, 2021

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Dangerman Sep 1, 2021 • 9:59:58am

stupid move screwdriver bit puncture update

swelling is mostly gone
i can bend it 3/4 but no strength or grip with it
still a fair bit of pain around the puncture and along the joint

doc says it’s likely to be numb for up to a year
it feels like the one finger is wearing a glove

working outside wasnt so bad
typing is…weird— use it, dont use it, use just the index finger, use all other 4…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 10:00:18am

re: #315 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And wives. And mothers. And aunts. And sisters.

And leaders wives of Christian churches who support this. And women in anti-abortion groups. And the wives of gun-nut militias.

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PhillyPretzel Sep 1, 2021 • 10:00:35am

Just in case I am topping off my batteries. There is a mix of clouds to the west. A darker band then a lighter band.

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Belafon Sep 1, 2021 • 10:00:37am

re: #317 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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That’s what I put up last night on Facebook, that an ex could extract revenge or a male could threaten to report a female if she doesn’t do what he wants.That

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teleskiguy Sep 1, 2021 • 10:02:09am

A Supreme Court where 5 of 6 conservative justices were appointed by GOP presidents who initially lost popular vote & confirmed by senators representing minority of Americans are taking away voting rights & reproductive rights from millions of Americans. This is not democracy

— Ari Berman (@AriBerman) September 1, 2021

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 10:03:44am

May I suggest also building a network of researchers + a database of anti-abortion orgs, associates, associates’ families, etc and be on the lookout for when any one of them (females) visits a dr file a suspected abortion report. Let them be the first victims of their own law.

— Linda Kemp, MCIS DSc(abd) #BlackLivesMatter (@LindaLarsonKemp) September 1, 2021

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teleskiguy Sep 1, 2021 • 10:03:50am

We’re not a country of laws, we’re a country of loopholes.

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ckkatz Sep 1, 2021 • 10:06:54am

I hold our Texas Lizards in high esteem.

However, this kind of clusterf@ck is why, 25 years ago, I declined a really good opportunity that required that I to move to Texas.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 10:09:07am

Thread of seven tweets.

BREAKING: The Supreme Court has not responded to our emergency request to block Texas’ radical new 6-week abortion ban, SB8. The law now takes effect.

Access to almost all abortion has just been cut off for millions of people. The impact will be immediate and devastating.

— ACLU (@ACLU) September 1, 2021

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teleskiguy Sep 1, 2021 • 10:09:13am

Text I received from my close friend and children’s hospital worker in San Antonio this morning:

I’m getting sick of living in a state that’s always the first topic on the national news every morning 😞

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piratedan Sep 1, 2021 • 10:11:31am

re: #325 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

If we’re going to take this to it’s logical conclusion, you also have to cite each and every sexual partner that the woman had because we all KNOW that there wouldn’t have been an abortion necessary without a man impregnating her.

then you can sue the state of Texas for providing the roads that were used to allow her to travel to obtain the procedure, every manufacturer of food and drink that allowed her to sustain her life while she was busy planning to take the life of another.

we also have to blame the churches themselves for failing in their job in proving to this young woman that procreation outside the bonds of marriage is wrong… I don’t see how we can continue to reward them with tax exempt status when they have failed so utterly in their mission. ////////////////////

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No Malarkey! Sep 1, 2021 • 10:11:41am

re: #256 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

He’s still opposed to masks and vaccine mandates, even as his state runs out of ICU beds. “Urging” people to get vaccinated is not enough.

The pandemic won’t end until enough people have acquired immunity through infection or vaccination. And it’s going to take a high percentage since Delta is so contagious. We need vaccine mandates to prevent a terrible amount of death and suffering to get there, but the political will doesn’t exist. So it’s going to have to be employer, bottom line driven. Employees needing weeks of extremely expensive medical care before dying are bad for quarterly profits.

332

No Malarkey! Sep 1, 2021 • 10:16:08am

re: #307 Eclectic Cyborg

Can we assume that other red states are already rushing to pass new laws like the Texas one since SCOTUS has signaled “Yeah, we’re cool with that.” ?

I expect one to be prefiled in Kentucky soon for the January session.

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Citizen K Sep 1, 2021 • 10:16:33am

re: #327 ckkatz

I hold our Texas Lizards in high esteem.

However, this kind of clusterf@ck is why, 25 years ago, I declined a really good opportunity that required that I to move to Texas.

It’s not helped by how much of an apparent lost cause the state seems to be. Like…when it seems like there’s an inkling of a chance to tip the scales back toward sanity, the GOP pulls an UNO Reverse card and slams all hope shut for another generation.

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Dangerman Sep 1, 2021 • 10:17:22am

WHO monitoring new coronavirus variant named Mu

The World Health Organization has added another version of coronavirus to its list of “variants of interest” amid concerns that it may partially evade the immunity people have developed from past infection or vaccination.

The Mu variant, also known as B.1.621, was added to the WHO’s watchlist on 30 August after it was detected in 39 countries and found to possess a cluster of mutations that may make it less susceptible to the immune protection many have acquired.

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ckkatz Sep 1, 2021 • 10:18:28am

re: #331 No Malarkey!

The pandemic won’t end until enough people have acquired immunity through infection or vaccination. And it’s going to take a high percentage since Delta is so contagious. We need vaccine mandates to prevent a terrible amount of death and suffering to get there, but the political will doesn’t exist. So it’s going to have to be employer, bottom line driven. Employees needing weeks of extremely expensive medical care before dying are bad for quarterly profits.

The problem, of course, is that infection and even vaccination do not necessarily provide immunity. Particularly as the virus continues to mutate due to the massive number of infections and re-infections.

336

No Malarkey! Sep 1, 2021 • 10:18:45am

re: #334 Dangerman

WHO monitoring new coronavirus variant named Mu

This is why it’s important to get as many people around the world vaccinated as soon as possible.

337

PhillyPretzel Sep 1, 2021 • 10:19:00am

re: #334 Dangerman

Oy Vey. I can see I will be wearing a double mask for a while longer.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 1, 2021 • 10:20:27am

re: #335 ckkatz

The problem, of course, is that infection and even vaccination do not necessarily provide immunity. Particularly as the virus continues to mutate due to the massive number of infections and re-infections.

I am afraid we are going to wind up just chasing our tails in an ever-more intense race to control the next, deadlier, more virulent mutation.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 10:20:39am

re: #327 ckkatz

I hold our Texas Lizards in high esteem.

However, this kind of clusterf@ck is why, 25 years ago, I declined a really good opportunity that required that I to move to Texas.

My wife told her brother some time ago she will not travel to Texas to visit him; he must come here.

He is concerned for his wife, as he had a major heart surgery two years ago, and should he die she is unfamiliar with how the laws work in the United States concerning inheritance and executing wills. My wife is more than happy to help, but says our sister-in-law would have to move here with us because under no circumstance will she set foot in Texas.

340

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 10:22:32am

re: #334 Dangerman

WHO monitoring new coronavirus variant named Mu

What happens when we run out of Greek letters? Game over? /s

341

No Malarkey! Sep 1, 2021 • 10:22:48am

re: #335 ckkatz

The problem, of course, is that infection and even vaccination do not necessarily provide immunity. Particularly as the virus continues to mutate due to the massive number of infections and re-infections.

We know that the vaccinated are much less likely to get infected, and are less infectious than the unvaccinated. If we get the community spread rate below one, meaning the number of people each infected person infects, the spread starts declining. That is what we mean by “herd immunity”; we don’t have to get everyone completely immune, just enough people mostly immune.

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PhillyPretzel Sep 1, 2021 • 10:23:16am

re: #340 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hebrew?

343

Dopamine Fish Sep 1, 2021 • 10:24:03am

On the topic of vaccines, I booked my flu shot appointment for Sunday after church. Ain’t no fuckin’ way I’m taking a chance of another double-jeopardy round; even though I have the COVID vaccine, with Delta and Gamma and Mu floating around, I’m not about to let up off the gas until COVID is no longer a thing of concern in the United States. That’s looking like it’s going to be a while, thanks to fucking Republicans.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 10:24:28am

re: #342 PhillyPretzel

Hebrew?

Tamil?

en.wikipedia.org

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Rightwingconspirator Sep 1, 2021 • 10:24:33am

re: #342 PhillyPretzel

Hebrew?

Trump 6, Trump 7 and…

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teleskiguy Sep 1, 2021 • 10:25:03am

I really wish that this sort of rank hypocrisy mattered. Alas… https://t.co/gxBkB0zssT

— Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) September 1, 2021

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 1, 2021 • 10:27:27am

re: #346 teleskiguy

one can assume that he and his staff are neither masked nor vaxxed so I would not go there in the first place

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The Ghost of a Flea Sep 1, 2021 • 10:27:48am

Another feature of this Texas law that bears noting is how the action is triggered by the subjective impression of “concerned” parties…basically, it’s Soviet-style snitching where the burden is all on the accused, not even on the state. Much like bathroom bills, the law is structured to be broadly punitive to the point that enforcement will hurt many people without cause, but in a way that puts real enforcement power in the hands of the kind of people that can and would make lots of accusations on the basis of very little. This is a running trend in Republican statehouses: more an more they’re attempting to code the law in a way that there exists both a legal and extralegal system of enforcement that coordinate to stymie the liberties of people not like them.

In a way, this move is homologous with the standing position on use of lethal force: there is a class of people with enforcement power but little oversight, and a class of people that are viewed as by-nature suspect such that they deserve whatever harm results from the process of accusation.

We’re back to people protected by the law but not bound by it versus people bound but not protected.

They really don’t have anything except their caste system.

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No Malarkey! Sep 1, 2021 • 10:28:21am

re: #343 Dopamine Fish

On the topic of vaccines, I booked my flu shot appointment for Sunday after church. Ain’t no fuckin’ way I’m taking a chance of another double-jeopardy round; even though I have the COVID vaccine, with Delta and Gamma and Mu floating around, I’m not about to let up off the gas until COVID is no longer a thing of concern in the United States. That’s looking like it’s going to be a while, thanks to fucking Republicans.

I don’t understand Twitter. It’s great they banned Alex Berenson, but they allow Pastor Greg Locke, a QANON believer, Big Lie supporter and Covid Truther, to continue tweeting even though almost every single tweet he posts violates their TOS. He may be the most hate filled “pastor” in America.

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teleskiguy Sep 1, 2021 • 10:28:27am

My case of Crystal Hot Sauce has arrived! You can’t find that shit anywhere around here, it’s all Tabasco or Cholula. The shipping cost was higher than the price of the case.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 10:29:23am

Busy using a state account for partisan propaganda.

He left strategic military equipment for the Taliban that can now be used to harm our interests. And 13 American troops died in a terrorist attack. This human tragedy reduced America’s standing in the world and is a stain on our country’s reputation.https://t.co/d7NWoh5EfE

— Gov. Pete Ricketts (@GovRicketts) August 31, 2021

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A Cranky One Sep 1, 2021 • 10:29:46am

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Patricia Kayden Sep 1, 2021 • 10:30:19am

re: #346 teleskiguy

The business should be named so that the rest of us can boycott it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Sep 1, 2021 • 10:30:46am

re: #349 No Malarkey!

I don’t understand Twitter. It’s great they banned Alex Berenson, but they allow Pastor Greg Locke, a QANON believer, Big Lie supporter and Covid Truther, to continue tweeting even though almost every single tweet he posts violates their TOS. He may be the most hate filled “pastor” in America.

$$$

Never get between libertarians and their money.

He’s far from the worst hate preacher on Twitter.

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Belafon Sep 1, 2021 • 10:31:28am

re: #346 teleskiguy

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Every time a business tries that, they either close or change their tune pretty quick.

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lawhawk Sep 1, 2021 • 10:31:50am

So much for snitches get stiches.

In Texas, snitches get $10k and bounties for snitching on people they think had an abortion. No proof necessary to launch investigations or anything.

Yeah, what could possibly go wrong here, other than I don’t know, saying that Abbott and Paxton spouses both had abortions and someone needs to investigate what happened and why they’re covering up their own malfeasance?

Given how this is supposed to be “policed” by people, but ultimately state courts and authorities are involved, this gives state action to back up the law. That’s a roundabout method to shred the rule of law and should be ruled unconstitutional. It’s encouraging vigilantism.

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No Malarkey! Sep 1, 2021 • 10:33:17am

re: #354 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

$$$

Never get between libertarians and their money.

He’s far from the worst hate preacher on Twitter.

I shudder to imagine how bad they must be then!

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JC1 Sep 1, 2021 • 10:38:56am

re: #235 Citizen K

Just with the way things are laid out now, institutionally, the GOP is more likely to get a functional supermajority to pass amendments with than we are.

Demographics of sparsely populated states could change quickly. 5 years ago I would not consider moving to a place like Wyoming or Montana. Not enough places with good high tech jobs or even internet service. If the shift towards remote work that started with Covid becomes a more permanent thing, I can see many folks moving out of metro areas into more rural states. The cost of living is fractional compared to NYC or California, and with starlink good internet service is available anywhere.

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