Great New Track by Becca Stevens and Michael League: Mirrors, “Over the Line”

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Mirrors - Over The Line (Official Music Video)
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Becca Stevens - “The seed of this song came from a desire to inspire our male counterparts to do their part in advocating for gender equality. When Mike and I were writing the lyrics, we were addressing this theme from a perspective of two people working together at a common goal, and that through this kind of teamwork progress is made. In the creative process we addressed this idea of teamwork from different angles; sometimes working side by side, sometimes holding the other up, and sometimes sitting back and just listening.”

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Mirrors is: Becca Stevens, Gisela João, Justin Stanton, Louis Cato & Michael League

Written by Becca Stevens and Michael League
Arranged and Produced by Mirrors
Recorded, Engineered, and Mixed by Nic Hard
Mastered by Dave McNair
Filmed by João Marques
Video edited by João Marques and Justin Stanton

Becca Stevens: Lead vocals, background vocals
Justin Stanton: Keyboards, drum programming, background vocals
Louis Cato: Acoustic guitar, drums, background vocals
Michael League: Acoustic guitar, electric bass, synth bass, background vocals

Special thanks to Cidade de Portalegre, Turismo do Alentejo, and Casa de Urra for their generous support.

“Over The Line” Lyrics
I can lift you up
I can lift you up
I can lift you up

I know you’d like to think you’re on our side
And now I want to see you prove you’re right
First to speak on what you think I like
But I need you listening tonight
Love is a wave that breaks the blind
Doing this takes us more than time
I need you (I can lift you up)
To push this over the line
I can lift you up now baby
Soon (I can lift you up)
Whether by chance or design
We’ll take what we’ve been denied
Now I know your heart is in the right (Now I know your heart is in the right)
It’s time to set your sympathy alight
You’ve always been the first one to agree (First to agree)
Now I need you in the fight with me

You can choose (I can lift you up)
To push this over the line
I can lift you up now baby
Soon (I can lift you up)
Whether by chance or design
We’ll take what we’ve been denied

You (I can lift you up)
Can push this over the line
I can lift you up now baby
Soon (I can lift you up)
Whether by chance or design
We’ll take what we’ve been denied
You can choose (I can lift you up)
To push this over the line
I can lift you up now (I can lift you up now baby)
Whether by chance or design (I can lift you up)
We’ll take what we’ve been denied

You (I can lift you up)
Will push this over the line
I can lift you up now baby
You (I can lift you up)
Whether by chance or design
We’ll take what we’ve been denied

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94 comments
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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:07:29pm
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jeffreyw  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:09:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:10:01pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

you need to touch base with freetoken, same problem has been discussed here with no joy so far

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:10:29pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:11:27pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

you need to touch base with freetoken, same problem has been discussed here with no joy so far

I can’t help with Windows, but the fix I posted above works for Mac OS.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:14:18pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Yes, that’s what I had to do yesterday. See the long string of comments I left.

I had to tell OSX to explicitly Always Trust that same cert.

I don’t really want to “always trust” something in the world of computers, but that where we’re at today.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:18:43pm

letsencrypt ssl certificates are free. You get what you pay for I guess.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:28:09pm

JFC, the double downing in a dead thread is stunning in its stupidity

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:28:30pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC, the double downing in a dead thread is stunning in its stupidity

Oh jeez, is our resident troll really doing the dead-thread thing?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:28:46pm

re: #6 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Ah, I missed that thread! Firefox seems to be maintaining its own certificate cache, but it will probably expire there too pretty soon.

Chrome isn’t the problem - Letsencrypt let their old root certificate expire and just installed a new one that relies on a new protocol that older devices don’t support. Apparently the possibility that they were causing chaos for many, many users never entered their heads.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:28:55pm

re: #9 Dopamine Fish

Oh jeez, is our resident troll really doing the dead-thread thing?

indeed.
he left and then came back for more

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:30:05pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Ah, I missed that thread! Firefox seems to be maintaining its own certificate cache, but it will probably expire there too pretty soon.

Chrome isn’t the problem - Letsencrypt let their old root certificate expire and just installed a new one that relies on a new protocol that older devices don’t support. Apparently the possibility that they were causing chaos for many, many users never entered their heads.

Arguably, Firefox is the “problem” in that it is not reporting in a timely fashion when the root certificate expires. LetsEncrypt’s poorly thought-through decision is more of a contributing factor.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:30:24pm

re: #9 Dopamine Fish

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oy Vey. I really hate this type of S*t.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:31:43pm

re: #13 PhillyPretzel

Oy Vey. I really hate this type of S*t.

amazing that he apparently lives to be a troll here

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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:32:39pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

indeed.
he left and then came back for more

Whew—for a minute I thought you were talking about me posting “Bad Day” on the last thread long after everyone had moved on.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:32:46pm

re: #13 PhillyPretzel

Oy Vey. I really hate this type of S*t.

I’m pretty good at the GAZE these days. I generally don’t comment on the presence or absence of troublesome individuals. Unless a troll signs up here and gets banhammered while I’m gone. I always miss the fun.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:32:57pm

re: #15 BeachDem

Whew—for a minute I thought you were talking about me posting “Bad Day” on the last thread long after everyone had moved on.

heh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:33:53pm

re: #16 Dopamine Fish

I’m pretty good at the GAZE these days. I generally don’t comment on the presence or absence of troublesome individuals. Unless a troll signs up here and gets banhammered while I’m gone. I always miss the fun.

I was gazing until he got all nasty about ww’s comment.
just couldn’t let that pass.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:34:19pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was gazing until he got all nasty about ww’s comment.
just couldn’t let that pass.

That happened while I was away, so once again, I miss out on all the fun.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:35:43pm

re: #12 Dopamine Fish

Arguably, Firefox is the “problem” in that it is not reporting in a timely fashion when the root certificate expires. LetsEncrypt’s poorly thought-through decision is more of a contributing factor.

So my Chrome seems to be working fine, without my doing anything techie (except the bare minimum of updating Chrome when new version is released and tells me). So can someone explain using very simple language why I’m ok and others aren’t? I am using an ancient computer passed on to me by my sister, but one that has Windows 10 installed.

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John Hughes  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:36:23pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

No. Let’s encrypt did it right.

It the TLS library authors who screwed up

Let’s encrypt made the naif error of thinking that people would follow the standard.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:37:32pm

re: #20 Hecuba’s daughter

So my Chrome seems to be working fine, without my doing anything techie (except the bare minimum of updating Chrome when new version is released and tells me). So can someone explain using very simple language why I’m ok and others aren’t? I am using an ancient computer passed on to me by my sister, but one that has Windows 10 installed.

The operating system version is the key here. Older operating systems are unable to update their certificates to record that LetsEncrypt renewed theirs. The issue is that the version of MacOS that is incompatible with the new LetsEncrypt certificate is new enough that many people appear to still be using it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:40:44pm
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Decatur Deb  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:42:04pm

I enjoy a touch of the troll. Some of my favorite Lizards were delightful trolls until they went overboard. Messing around with Walter was a hoot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:42:40pm

re: #24 Decatur Deb

I enjoy a touch of the troll. Some of my favorite Lizards were delightful trolls until they went overboard. Messing around with Walter was a hoot.

and the guy who should not be named three times.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:42:59pm

re: #24 Decatur Deb

I enjoy a touch of the troll. Some of my favorite Lizards were delightful trolls until they went overboard. Messing around with Walter was a hoot.

Oh, jeez, but you could get that one wound up like a watch spring.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:43:35pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

and the guy who should not be named three times.

? Whisper it once.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:44:18pm

re: #27 Decatur Deb

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Decatur Deb  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:45:45pm

re: #26 Dopamine Fish

Oh, jeez, but you could get that one wound up like a watch spring.

It was all shtick with him—I never saw any viciousness.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:46:48pm

re: #29 Decatur Deb

It was all shtick with him—I never saw any viciousness.

One of the less bad ones, as I recall. I remember Mandy and iceweasel, and I could tell reeeeeally early on in that pissing match what was going to eventually happen. Mandy had absolutely zero chill.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:47:34pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Decatur Deb  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:49:01pm

re: #30 Dopamine Fish

One of the less bad ones, as I recall. I remember Mandy and iceweasel, and I could tell reeeeeally early on in that pissing match what was going to eventually happen. Mandy had absolutely zero chill.

There were still some stories I wanted to hear from her, ex-commie and all. Unless it was just BS.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:49:48pm

When I finally hit a window and got into the lounge one of my first comments drew one of Walter’s passive-aggressive blasts. Pretty much put me on the wrong foot regarding him and I can honestly say I do not miss him much at all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:50:10pm
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Dopamine Fish  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:50:34pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

My surprise, let me show you it.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:50:35pm

re: #33 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

When I finally hit a window and got into the lounge one of my first comments drew one of Walter’s passive-aggressive blasts. Pretty much put me on the wrong foot regarding him and I can honestly say I do not miss him much at all.

He routinely tested the newbies hard.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:51:52pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

Who shall audit the auditors?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2021 • 4:59:13pm

re: #22 Dopamine Fish

The operating system version is the key here. Older operating systems are unable to update their certificates to record that LetsEncrypt renewed theirs. The issue is that the version of MacOS that is incompatible with the new LetsEncrypt certificate is new enough that many people appear to still be using it.

An even larger issue is that Apple aggressively grandfathers their older machines. I’d happily upgrade to the latest Mac OS but my Mac Pro is too old. It still runs great, and this was not a cheap box.

There are hack solutions that would let me use a more recent Mac OS, which tells me that Apple could continue to support their older hardware, they just choose not to bother with it. Which sucks.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:05:24pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

An even larger issue is that Apple aggressively grandfathers their older machines. I’d happily upgrade to the latest Mac OS but my Mac Pro is too old. It still runs great, and this was not a cheap box.

There are hack solutions that would let me use a more recent Mac OS, which tells me that Apple could continue to support their older hardware, they just choose not to bother with it. Which sucks.

I understand why they don’t; it’s an increasing amount of effort to support the newer OS’s on older hardware, as opposed to just cutting them off. It’s a thing with iOS, too, and let me tell you, that SUUUUCKED when we got cut off at iOS 6 when they did that massive changeover. However, the security implications of neither supporting the old OS, nor of building their new OS to be a little more backwards compatible, are staggering. And this is a great example of why.

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John Hughes  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:05:37pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

The problem isn’t that the Identrust “DST Root X3” certificate has expired.

The problem is that Let’s encrypyt, using the existing protocols, issued certificates signed by “DST Root X3” and also by their own “ISRG Root X1” certificate.

Nowadays everyone (or almost everyone) accepts certificates signed by “ISRG Root X1” (aka Let’s encrypt).

But what happens if a certificate is signed by a valid certificate (e.g. “ISRG Root X1”) AND ALSO an expired certificate, e.g. “DST Root X3”“? Well, it turns out that some old TLS libraries decide that the certificate is bad.

Let’s encrypt were naif, they thought people would follow the documentation.

letsencrypt.org

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John Hughes  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:08:56pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sorry, don’t have the time too keep up with you.

Apparently that was once seen as cute.

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John Hughes  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:12:17pm

re: #40 John Hughes

Dopamine Fish (thedopefishlives)

I’m sorry, but you have a problem.

I described a technical problem, that is real, and you downvoted it.

Well, goodbye.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:15:32pm

re: #40 John Hughes

The problem isn’t that the Identrust “DST Root X3” certificate has expired.

I understand the software issue. But if, like me, you have a Mac Pro that can’t be upgraded to a compatible version of Mac OS, the fact that their certificate expired with no alternative is indeed the problem. Force-trusting their expired certificate is the only way to solve that problem right now, if I want to keep using the internet.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:17:33pm

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:23:22pm

I’ve already heard from several people on Twitter with older MacBooks and Mac Pros who are having the same problem.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:24:11pm

re: #42 John Hughes

Dopamine Fish (thedopefishlives)

I’m sorry, but you have a problem.

I described a technical problem, that is real, and you downvoted it.

Well, goodbye.

A PSA: many times someone, especially if using a phone, accidentally downvotes a comment. Or inadvertently hits the wrong key and discovers that they’ve changed a setting and don’t have a clue how to change it back.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:24:13pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

I’ve already heard from several people on Twitter with older MacBooks and Mac Pros who are having the same problem.

Yeah. It’s fundamentally a lack of support issue; sure, there’s an underlying software bug, but that bug wouldn’t be a problem if there was proper legacy support from a company that is notorious for its emphasis on planned obsolescence.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:24:31pm

Apparently some ad servers are also affected, which will get their attention.

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John Hughes  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:24:53pm

re: #12 Dopamine Fish

Arguably, Firefox is the “problem” in that it is not reporting in a timely fashion when the root certificate expires. LetsEncrypt’s poorly thought-through decision is more of a contributing factor.

No.

I said I’d be gone, but I can’t let this go.

Let’s encrypt certificates are signed by a certificate that has expired and by a certificate that hasn’t expired.

All systems that are not decades old accept the new certificate.

The problem is that some oldish implementations of the whole TLS/certificate thing (openssl 1.something and Gnu TLS version something and a Android TLS version wgho the fuck knows) all make the error of deciding that if a certificate is signed by an expired certificate then it’s bad, without considering that the certificate is also signed by a valid certificate.

Sorry for being a geek, but this is my life. Unfortunately.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:27:04pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

The only problem I had when I updated to this latest version of OS is that now I have a folder that was put there as a result of the update. It is called “relocated items.” All I know is that I can still get on the internet do what I need to do.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:27:26pm

I won’t be surprised if letsencrypt comes out with some kind of fix for this. But I won’t be surprised if they don’t, either.

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darthstar  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:28:53pm

Went out to get TP ( we actually forgot we need some dinner we got the bidet) and got Pfizer booster at the same time.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:31:09pm

re: #50 PhillyPretzel

The only problem I had when I updated to this latest version of OS is that now I have a folder that was put there as a result of the update. It is called “relocated items.” All I know is that I can still get on the internet do what I need to do.

‘Relocated Items” are things you installed in the previous OS version, that may be incompatible with the new OS. The updater moves them here so they can’t crash the new OS. If you look at the names you can usually get an idea what they were. It’s almost always safe to trash that folder, once you’ve inspected it.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:33:09pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

I have clicked on it and it ends with group system default. There does not seem to have anything else in it.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:37:53pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:41:51pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:42:53pm

At the end of the day our internet access is a fragile thing.

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Dangerman  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:43:45pm

re: #46 Hecuba’s daughter

A PSA: many times someone, especially if using a phone, accidentally downvotes a comment. Or inadvertently hits the wrong key and discovers that they’ve changed a setting and don’t have a clue how to change it back.

My favorites list is huuuuuge…….fat thumbs hit that heart a lot

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:43:56pm

re: #57 Rightwingconspirator

Yes. And with COVID-19 we need it more than ever.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:43:58pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:44:53pm

If the reports I’m reading are correct, all versions of Mac OS <= 2016 are affected by this certificate issue, so that’s a lot of people.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:51:21pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

I just went into my apps and music and everything is okay. I checked my credit union earlier and that was fine too.

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Dangerman  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:51:29pm

re: #60 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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THIS is why we need the internets

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John Hughes  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:52:14pm

re: #46 Hecuba’s daughter

Please give Dopamine Fish the dignity of speaking for himself.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:55:40pm
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jaunte  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:55:50pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:57:14pm

re: #64 John Hughes

I’ll speak for myself and say you’re a jackass troll. What is your major malfunction, numb nuts? Well, congratulations, asshole, you got a rise out of me. Now fuck off.

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Dangerman  Oct 1, 2021 • 5:59:47pm

Biden Re-Links Infrastructure and Reconciliation Bills

President Biden told the House Democratic caucus that bipartisan infrastructure package “ain’t going to happen until we reach an agreement on the next piece of legislation,” Punchbowl News reports.

Said Biden to reporters: “It doesn’t matter when. It doesn’t matter whether it’s six minutes, six days or six weeks. We’re going to get it done.”

From the leader of the country
and the party.

should put an end to all of the speculation whether he had changed his position and was advocating for stand alone passage of the $1T roads and bridges infrastructure bill.

He hasnt

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2021 • 6:00:25pm

I’ve been meaning to say something to “John Hughes” for a long time. Dude does nothing but antagonize people.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 1, 2021 • 6:00:33pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

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darthstar  Oct 1, 2021 • 6:05:50pm

re: #52 darthstar

Went out to get TP ( we actually forgot we need some dinner we got the bidet) and got Pfizer booster at the same time.

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Not just my booster…my neighbors saw my FB post and joined me, then my wife got back in time for her shot, and another neighbor I texted brought her (medical)special needs kid in time for his booster.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 1, 2021 • 6:15:22pm

re: #64 John Hughes

Please give Dopamine Fish the dignity of speaking for himself.

Honest to God, dude, shiti the fuck up. You’re boring already.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 1, 2021 • 6:18:03pm

re: #52 darthstar

Went out to get TP ( we actually forgot we need some dinner we got the bidet) and got Pfizer booster at the same time.

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Good for you & yours.

Pfizer #4 gave me a slight fever and a couple muscle aches but I gladly accept those knowing it will keep a tube out of my throat!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 1, 2021 • 6:26:14pm
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Oct 1, 2021 • 6:28:56pm

re: #74 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

But let’s make sure Democrats keep focusing on roads and bridges while Joe Manchin has the veto.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 1, 2021 • 6:34:49pm

re: #74 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Republicans will obviously force her to carry it to term since they think it will vote for them by default when it comes of age.
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 1, 2021 • 6:36:11pm

Happy Birthday Jimmy

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 1, 2021 • 6:38:29pm

re: #76 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Republicans will obviously force her to carry it to term since they think it will vote for them by default when it comes of age.
///

“Anencephalic” is an accurate description of the Republican caucus.

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2021 • 6:39:22pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 1, 2021 • 6:39:38pm

re: #76 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Republicans will obviously force her to carry it to term since they think it will vote for them by default when it comes of age.
///

According to the article, she went out of state for the abortion, because she had the resources. Too many others don’t have that option.

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sagehen  Oct 1, 2021 • 6:41:10pm

re: #77 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Happy Birthday Jimmy

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I like his and Roslynn’s wedding photo; it looks like Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 1, 2021 • 6:41:25pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

It’s one of those things that in the big picture of our data driven world that often gets overlooked - the huge installed base of older systems that people use that cannot move to the latest operating systems.

In my mind, designing a security infrastructure, such as the certificate environment for websites, without planning for backwards compatibility for decades was a big mistake.

When I worked for the DoD, we had systems still in place that were using 40 year old tech. One has to design for multi-decade life cycles.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 1, 2021 • 6:41:44pm

re: #81 sagehen

I like his and Roslynn’s wedding photo; it looks like Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland.

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They look adorable, and the Navy whites look good on young Jimmy.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 1, 2021 • 6:42:11pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 1, 2021 • 6:49:05pm

re: #80 Hecuba’s daughter

According to the article, she went out of state for the abortion, because she had the resources. Too many others don’t have that option.

What surprises me is that Texan women are overrunning Oklahoma facilities. Is Oklahoma different from other Southern GOP states when it comes to choice?

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2021 • 6:54:26pm
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No Malarkey!  Oct 1, 2021 • 6:57:52pm

re: #85 Hecuba’s daughter

What surprises me is that Texan women are overrunning Oklahoma facilities. Is Oklahoma different from other Southern GOP states when it comes to choice?

It probably has more to do with proximity than law.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 1, 2021 • 7:07:00pm
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jaunte  Oct 1, 2021 • 7:18:41pm

The recent rain brought a little copperhead up to the porch for a visit.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2021 • 7:19:19pm

No Step On Snek

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2021 • 7:20:16pm

And when I say visit I mean to eat toads.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 1, 2021 • 7:21:16pm
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plansbandc  Oct 1, 2021 • 7:23:04pm

re: #89 jaunte

Pretty little lethal snaky.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 1, 2021 • 7:32:40pm

So Bill Maher has as his panel Matt Taibbi and Katherine Mangu-Ward, editor-in-chief of Reason Magazine. It seems as though he doesn’t want people who challenge his ignorant libertarian philosophy and his disparagement of education. Sometimes he has insights but rarely.


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