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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:26:41am

San Diego County is up to 81.5% fully vaccinated (12+), and 90.2% with at least one shot.

Good news, for us.

However, in the hospitals the Covid-19 patient count is remaining steady. Small, but steady. I don’t know what this means.

Yes, unvaccinated are 14x more likely to end up in the hospital in this county.

The ICU count of Covid-19 patients also has remained fairly steady. On the 24th it bumped up to 92 patients but now is back down to 81.

The vaccinations have clearly reduced the ICU load, but the hospitalizations seem to be in some sort of steady state.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:27:20am

re: #121 Eclectic Cyborg

Those are some wet miserable people right there.

It has been raining solidly for the last 10+ hours here in the DMV. I’ve been receiving areal flood warnings on my phone — Montgomery Co., MD.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:29:40am

To answer a question from downstairs: Concerning Doctor Who and streaming, it appears that HBO Max does have a contract with the BBC for seasons 13 and 14.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:32:02am

re: #1 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

San Diego County is up to 81.5% fully vaccinated (12+), and 90.2% with at least one shot.

Good news, for us.

However, in the hospitals the Covid-19 patient count is remaining steady. Small, but steady. I don’t know what this means.

Yes, unvaccinated are 14x more likely to end up in the hospital in this county.

The ICU count of Covid-19 patients also has remained fairly steady. On the 24th it bumped up to 92 patients but now is back down to 81.

The vaccinations have clearly reduced the ICU load, but the hospitalizations seem to be in some sort of steady state.

Breakthroughs from diminishing immunity?

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Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:34:58am

CL’d in the previous thread:

We’re starting to get to the point we need to here:

The realization is dawning, perhaps too late, that the GOP as a party no longer exists but as a puppet show for the true master, Fox News and Rupert Murdoch.

GOP Senators & Reps, all the way down to school boards, all pattern their screaming & fake outrage on what they see on Fox News.

It is destroying America. It may have already.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:36:34am

Will he soon appear in the sorryantivaxxer.com gallery?

Ice Cube Exits Sony Comedy ‘Oh Hell No’ After Declining COVID-19 Vaccine

He just might turn into a real ice cube in the Pine Condo…

hollywoodreporter.com

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:37:16am

Cool. I finally fixed that issue with the new letsencrypt certificates in El Capitan, with the method on this page - downloading and installing the new root certificate in Keychain Access.

logi.wiki

I used method #2 because I didn’t want to run a script from an unknown source.

Previously I had gotten things working by “force-trusting” the older expired certificate, but that’s somewhat risky. This is much better.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:41:58am

She’s 95. We know the day is coming but her mum lived to be 101, so maybe not just yet.

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sagehen  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:45:22am

re: #1 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

San Diego County is up to 81.5% fully vaccinated (12+), and 90.2% with at least one shot.

Good news, for us.

However, in the hospitals the Covid-19 patient count is remaining steady. Small, but steady. I don’t know what this means.

It means they’re accepting patient transfers from out of state.

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sagehen  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:46:01am

re: #3 Dopamine Fish

To answer a question from downstairs: Concerning Doctor Who and streaming, it appears that HBO Max does have a contract with the BBC for seasons 13 and 14.

OH HAPPY DAY!!

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:47:16am

Anyone download Monterey yet? I usually wait a bit until Apple has worked out the bugs.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:49:20am

Right-winger doing what he accused others of, again.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:49:48am
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No Malarkey!  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:50:23am

New comments button not working again.

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Dangerman  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:51:53am

Nearly five years after Joe Arpaio was voted out as sheriff of Arizona’s most populous county, taxpayers are covering one of the last major bills from the thousands of lawsuits the lawman’s headline-grabbing tactics inspired,” the AP reports.

“The payout takes to $100 million the attorney fees, settlements and other costs the county has paid from lawsuits stemming from Arpaio’s six terms over things such as jail deaths, failed investigations of the sheriff’s political enemies and immigration raids of businesses.”

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wrenchwench  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:52:21am

re: #9 sagehen

It means they’re accepting patient transfers from out of state.

I was thinking out-of-county. Orange and LA.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:52:43am

Not refreshing the page. Last time this happened everything worked fine until I did. I’ll wait for the all clear from the Boss before I do.

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sagehen  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:53:12am

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

She’s 95. We know the day is coming but her mum lived to be 101, so maybe not just yet.

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I just want her to outlive Charles, so William can be next in line.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:53:51am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:54:17am

Refresh, it should be fixed.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:54:39am

re: #11 Barefoot Grin

Anyone download Monterey yet? I usually wait a bit until Apple has worked out the bugs.

It downloaded on my M1 MacBook, M1 Mac mini and old Intel Mac mini. The Intel Mac mini doesn’t have all the features that the M1 Macs have with Monterey. Several apps updated and Rosetta 2 loaded for older programs I use.

Note that before Monterey was downloaded it required an update to 11.6.1 before upgrading.

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wrenchwench  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:56:03am

re: #15 Dangerman

Trump has the equivalent nation-wide bill.

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Dangerman  Oct 29, 2021 • 10:56:04am

re: #15 Dangerman

Between this and the ninjas its the Rs who are costing AZ all this money.
Not a socialist democrat in sight

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Dangerman  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:03:26am

She is having none of it

Judge Assails ‘Schizophrenic’ Prosecutions for Capitol Riots

The chief judge presiding over the federal court in Washington on Thursday unleashed a blistering critique of the Justice Department’s prosecution of Capitol rioters, saying fiery rhetoric about the event’s horror did not match plea offers involving minor charges,” the Washington Post reports.

Said Judge Beryl Howell: “No wonder parts of the public in the U.S. are confused about whether what happened on January 6 at the Capitol was simply a petty offense of trespassing with some disorderliness, or shocking criminal conduct that represented a grave threat to our democratic norms. Let me make my view clear: The rioters were not mere protesters.”

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Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:03:36am

Dang. Got CL’d and then the tech went wonky. Editing…

We’re starting to get to the point we need to here:

The realization is dawning, perhaps too late, that the GOP as a party no longer exists but as a puppet show for the true master, Fox News and Rupert Murdoch.

GOP Senators & Reps, all the way down to school boards, all pattern their screaming & fake outrage on what they see on Fox News.

It is destroying America. It may have already.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:05:05am

I had this! I wish I knew what happened to it.

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Dangerman  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:06:14am

re: #22 wrenchwench

Trump has the equivalent nation-wide bill.

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As to Kitzingers point

Limited options
None good

Court cases would have likely ended up with bigger payouts
(Unless a tfg judge shoots down the verdict)

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Dangerman  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:06:47am

re: #25 Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)

Dang. Got CL’d and then the tech went wonky. Editing…

We’re starting to get to the point we need to here:

[Embedded content]

The realization is dawning, perhaps too late, that the GOP as a party no longer exists but as a puppet show for the true master, Fox News and Rupert Murdoch.

GOP Senators & Reps, all the way down to school boards, all pattern their screaming & fake outrage on what they see on Fox News.

It is destroying America. It may have already.

You keep posting it
Well keep updinging

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wrenchwench  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:09:24am

re: #27 Dangerman

As to Kitzingers point

Limited options
None good

Court cases would have likely ended up with bigger payouts
(Unless a tfg judge shoots down the verdict)

My point is that payouts are for damages done, and can never be enough.

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Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:12:26am

re: #28 Dangerman

You keep posting it
Well keep updinging

Thanks.

I think that this is an important issue, one that keeps getting missed. Like in the Godfather, when Michael Corleone says, “Our true enemy … has not yet shown his face.”

YouTube

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Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:16:05am

Rupert Murdoch’s psychopathic greed and his concurrent “victimhood” sense of always being picked-on have been fed right straight into the veins of the GOP.

The formerly conservative political party cares nothing about “conserving” anything other than White Power, and the rights of billionaires to steal as much as they can with utter impunity.

This is the result of 40 years of rising right-wing media narratives, built around Nixonian paranoia & sense of being looked-down-upon. It found fertile ground in the Deep South, where rural white trash clung to their “Noble Cause” myths about the Confederacy.

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jaunte  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:21:38am

re: #26 Barefoot Grin

I have that too! For years I thought I’d lost the ejecting gunman figure, but I found it a couple of weeks ago in a box of stuff my mother put away in her attic.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:24:18am
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wrenchwench  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:24:21am

re: #32 jaunte

I have that too! For years I thought I’d lost the ejecting gunman figure, but I found it a couple of weeks ago in a box of stuff my mother put away in her attic.

The exclamation mark looked like an ‘L’ to me. I had to look at the car again.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:24:22am

re: #32 jaunte

I have that too! For years I thought I’d lost the ejecting gunman figure, but I found it a couple of weeks ago in a box of stuff my mother put away in her attic.

I am sure that I don’t have the gunman. I have a couple of boxes of stuff including old Matchbox cars in storage, so it may still be in there.

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sizzzzlerz  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:26:17am

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Her doctors should have told her to cut back on the 10K runs with her Corgis

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:27:45am
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sizzzzlerz  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:29:23am

re: #26 Barefoot Grin

Probably worth some decent money on the classic toys market. Especially in good condition and the box

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Dave In Austin  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:29:53am

This made me laugh…

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:31:18am

re: #13 Patricia Kayden

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The counter-argument is that a lot of stuff that’s not in the bill is stuff that this administration ran on and which enjoys near universal support with voters. Stuff that I’ve already seen pundits predict that the GQP will try to run on passing in the next two elections, either by saying that Dems promised a lot and failed to deliver or that Trump will promise to pass if returned to the White House.

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Citizen K  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:31:29am

re: #33 Charles Johnson

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:33:26am

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

She’s 95. We know the day is coming but her mum lived to be 101, so maybe not just yet.

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Charles recently seen around the palace with huge grin on his face that he can’t explain.

//

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ericblair  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:34:16am

re: #37 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It was an X1 flare: the Space Weather Report (it exists) is here. That’s the highest class of flare (A, B, C, M, then X), but the really dangerous ones are going to be X30 or more. We’ll have one or two days notice before the X rays hit Earth and Earth orbit to batten down the hatches.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:36:31am

re: #18 sagehen

I just want her to outlive Charles, so William can be next in line.

Let her be the last monarch. Kill the monarchy dead.

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William Lewis  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:37:11am

And now for something completely different…

Clips: Do you know what a Trap is?

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Citizen K  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:37:11am

re: #40 Targetpractice

The counter-argument is that a lot of stuff that’s not in the bill is stuff that this administration ran on and which enjoys near universal support with voters. Stuff that I’ve already seen pundits predict that the GQP will try to run on passing in the next two elections, either by saying that Dems promised a lot and failed to deliver or that Trump will promise to pass if returned to the White House.

The problem here is the inherent assumption that this is literally the only chance ever they’ll have, and if they don’t get it now, the voters will have no choice than to stay home or even vote against them Dems. It’s the sort of immediate self-fulfilling prophecy that denies that there’s every any chance to try again with better plans or better numbers, thus ensuring that there’s not going to be a second time around. And it seems to be so ingrained that it leads to the blinkered assumption that if Dems can’t do something immediately, they never wanted to do it in the first place. It’s pure Green Lantern wishcasting that shoots everyone but the GOP in the foot, and then we wonder why the GOP gets all its fucking ponies every time.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:37:21am

re: #43 ericblair

It was an X1 flare: the Space Weather Report (it exists) is here. That’s the highest class of flare (A, B, C, M, then X), but the really dangerous ones are going to be X30 or more. We’ll have one or two days notice before the X rays hit Earth and Earth orbit to batten down the hatches.

Kinda wonder if it could delay SpaceX and put the ISS guys in their shelter.

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ericblair  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:41:38am

re: #47 Rightwingconspirator

Kinda wonder if it could delay SpaceX and put the ISS guys in their shelter.

I dunno, but they’ll have specific tolerances written into their procedures.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:42:47am

re: #46 Citizen K

The problem here is the inherent assumption that this is literally the only chance ever they’ll have, and if they don’t get it now, the voters will have no choice than to stay home or even vote against them Dems. It’s the sort of immediate self-fulfilling prophecy that denies that there’s every any chance to try again with better plans or better numbers, thus ensuring that there’s not going to be a second time around. And it seems to be so ingrained that it leads to the blinkered assumption that if Dems can’t do something immediately, they never wanted to do it in the first place. It’s pure Green Lantern wishcasting that shoots everyone but the GOP in the foot, and then we wonder why the GOP gets all its fucking ponies every time.

Well hey, maybe Dems could prove us wrong next year. Instead of crafting a legislative calendar that has them back home for most of the year to campaign and only coming to DC on sufferance, maybe they’ll instead spend most of the year in DC actually trying to craft a better bill that passes all the items that they’re currently jettisoning to appease two total jackholes.

On a related thought, maybe angels will fly out of my ass.//////

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:43:35am
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Dopamine Fish  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:44:21am

re: #50 Charles Johnson

It’s fittingly symbolic for Australia, since, as everyone knows, literally everything in the land down under is actively trying to kill you.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:46:26am

re: #51 Dopamine Fish

It’s fittingly symbolic for Australia, since, as everyone knows, literally everything in the land down under is actively trying to kill you.

And the things that can’t kill only lack the means to do so.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 11:56:24am

Let me spell it out: According to the Dem majority right now, forcing Krysten Sinema and Joe Manchin to vote for the BBB bill is beyond the pale and could totally break the party forever, but the House Progressive Caucus refusing to pass a corporate welfare bill if the agreement they made in good faith is not honored means they’re immature children who can’t understand the importance of passing legislation to secure the party’s political future.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:01:43pm

re: #35 Barefoot Grin

I am sure that I don’t have the gunman. I have a couple of boxes of stuff including old Matchbox cars in storage, so it may still be in there.

I have some Matchbox cars that have the original “Matchboxes” that they came in; my mother saved everything.

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:04:05pm

re: #22 wrenchwench

Trump has the equivalent nation-wide bill.

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Maybe Adam could vote for voting rights bills to help restrict the power of Republicans.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:05:51pm
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Belafon  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:06:33pm

re: #40 Targetpractice

The counter-argument is that a lot of stuff that’s not in the bill is stuff that this administration ran on and which enjoys near universal support with voters. Stuff that I’ve already seen pundits predict that the GQP will try to run on passing in the next two elections, either by saying that Dems promised a lot and failed to deliver or that Trump will promise to pass if returned to the White House.

“Then why didn’t you pass it with Democrats?”

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jaunte  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:07:09pm

re: #56 Dave In Austin

That’s a relief. I heard the vandals stole the handle.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:07:40pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:08:23pm

re: #57 Belafon

“Then why didn’t you pass it with Democrats?”

You really think the media’s gonna ask that? Or you think they’re gonna write long, glowing op-eds about how Repubs have “outflanked” the Dems with wildly popular proposals?

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Citizen K  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:08:32pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

Well hey, maybe Dems could prove us wrong next year. Instead of crafting a legislative calendar that has them back home for most of the year to campaign and only coming to DC on sufferance, maybe they’ll instead spend most of the year in DC actually trying to craft a better bill that passes all the items that they’re currently jettisoning to appease two total jackholes.

On a related thought, maybe angels will fly out of my ass.//////

And you know why we’re in the situation to where we have to jettison things from this bill to try and get it passed? Because said two jackholes are literally the deciding votes in the Senate, because we have an intransigent GOP standing as a full monolith against anything we do, and we have such a thin margin that we literally cannot afford to lose their vote for passage. That’s a shitty, shitty, shitty fucking hand, but it’s the one we’re being forced to play, so we have to try and find what we can actually get past them because otherwise, we get jack squat, and then only the GOP goes home happy.

If there’s a way to get all those key parts of the bill through without needing Sinema or Machin, I’d love to hear it.

re: #53 Targetpractice

Let me spell it out: According to the Dem majority right now, forcing Krysten Sinema and Joe Manchin to vote for the BBB bill is beyond the pale and could totally break the party forever, but the House Progressive Caucus refusing to pass a corporate welfare bill if the agreement they made in good faith is not honored means they’re immature children who can’t understand the importance of passing legislation to secure the party’s political future.

You know where the difference lies?

The Progressive Caucus isn’t the literal red line determining Dem control of the House at the moment. Sinema and Manchin, as frustrating as it is, are the actual red line keeping Dems in control of the Senate, and for better or for worse they know that, and are using it for hostage taking. And again, something not in the bill now or being cut from the bill doesn’t mean that it can’t be tried again for another bill, unless the Dems actually do lose control, and tanking something that gives you half a loaf because it doesn’t give you the whole thing is extremely petulant.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:10:55pm

re: #44 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Let her be the last monarch. Kill the monarchy dead.

There is a not unreasonable argument that constitutional monarchies are the best form of democracy, precisely because monarchs have no legitimate claim to wield power, preventing the kind of deadlock between legislatures and presidents that occur so often in presidential systems.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:12:25pm

re: #61 Citizen K

And you know why we’re in the situation to where we have to jettison things from this bill to try and get it passed? Because said two jackholes are literally the deciding votes in the Senate, because we have an intransigent GOP standing as a full monolith against anything we do, and we have such a thin margin that we literally cannot afford to lose their vote for passage. That’s a shitty, shitty, shitty fucking hand, but it’s the one we’re being forced to play, so we have to try and find what we can actually get past them because otherwise, we get jack squat, and then only the GOP goes home happy.

If there’s a way to get all those key parts of the bill through without needing Sinema or Machin, I’d love to hear it.

You know where the difference lies?

The Progressive Caucus isn’t the literal red line determining Dem control of the House at the moment. Sinema and Manchin, as frustrating as it is, are the actual red line keeping Dems in control of the Senate, and for better or for worse they know that, and are using it for hostage taking. And again, something not in the bill now or being cut from the bill doesn’t mean that it can’t be tried again for another bill, unless the Dems actually do lose control, and tanking something that gives you half a loaf because it doesn’t give you the whole thing is extremely petulant.

No, it’s called holding to the fucking agreement that was made not only with progressive Dems, but with the voters as a whole. “We can’t do anything that Joe Manchin doesn’t want to do” is a piss-poor campaign slogan. Only slightly less worse than “Maybe if you voted harder, you’d get what you voted for in the first place.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:15:04pm

re: #5 Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)

CL’d in the previous thread:

We’re starting to get to the point we need to here:

[Embedded content]

The realization is dawning, perhaps too late, that the GOP as a party no longer exists but as a puppet show for the true master, Fox News and Rupert Murdoch.

GOP Senators & Reps, all the way down to school boards, all pattern their screaming & fake outrage on what they see on Fox News.

It is destroying America. It may have already.

It’s Trump who has led to this particular point. There is a feedback loop between Fox and the Republican base. Is Fox controlling Tucker or is he controlling them? If they have any sense of decency, the more “legitimate” news anchors should submit mass resignations at this point rather than being associated with this vile attempt to attack the legitimacy of our government.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:15:17pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

Well hey, maybe Dems could prove us wrong next year. Instead of crafting a legislative calendar that has them back home for most of the year to campaign and only coming to DC on sufferance, maybe they’ll instead spend most of the year in DC actually trying to craft a better bill that passes all the items that they’re currently jettisoning to appease two total jackholes.

On a related thought, maybe angels will fly out of my ass.//////

Except they could spend 24/7/365 in D.C., and they will still need the votes of Manchin and Sinema to pass anything, because the 50 GOP Senators won’t vote for anything. The only solution is to pass what you have 50 votes for in the U.S. Senate, go home and tell your constituents about all the great stuff that is in the bill, then run on passing more great stuff IF the voters elect more Democrats to Congress next year.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:16:37pm

re: #65 No Malarkey!

Except they could spend 24/7/365 in D.C., and they will still need the votes of Manchin and Sinema to pass anything, because the 50 GOP Senators won’t vote for anything. The only solution is to pass what you have 50 votes for in the U.S. Senate, go home and tell your constituents about all the great stuff that is in the bill, then run on passing more great stuff IF the voters elect more Democrats to Congress next year.

What “great stuff”? There’s nothing in that bill that’s helping me one little bit, what reason do I have to support it or the party that is trying to lie to my ass about how “great” it is?

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William Lewis  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:17:01pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

Great googly moogly.

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Video

Sigh… this is beautiful but it makes me remember how when I was in Memphis earlier this month, I stopped into a little souvenir shop on Beal Street to get some bits for people back home. On the counter was a jar of picks, so I bought a few telling the woman at the counter they’d be good for when I was pretending to play my guitar…

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gwangung  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:18:07pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

What “great stuff”? There’s nothing in that bill that’s helping me one little bit, what reason do I have to support it or the party that is trying to lie to my ass about how “great” it is?

Can you itemize the stuff in the bill and say why they don’t fit your needs?

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:18:27pm

re: #53 Targetpractice

Let me spell it out: According to the Dem majority right now, forcing Krysten Sinema and Joe Manchin to vote for the BBB bill is beyond the pale and could totally break the party forever, but the House Progressive Caucus refusing to pass a corporate welfare bill if the agreement they made in good faith is not honored means they’re immature children who can’t understand the importance of passing legislation to secure the party’s political future.

If you’re going to complain about media framing, then realize that the entire reporting on your scenario will be “Democrats fail to pass Biden’s legislation. The midterms are in doubt. Is Biden’s term already over?”

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No Malarkey!  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:19:47pm

re: #63 Targetpractice

No, it’s called holding to the fucking agreement that was made not only with progressive Dems, but with the voters as a whole. “We can’t do anything that Joe Manchin doesn’t want to do” is a piss-poor campaign slogan. Only slightly less worse than “Maybe if you voted harder, you’d get what you voted for in the first place.”

And you would have to be an idiot to run using that campaign slogan. You run on “look at the great stuff we passed!” And “We’ll pass this other great stuff if you vote for Democrats!”

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:21:24pm

re: #68 gwangung

Can you itemize the stuff in the bill and say why they don’t fit your needs?

I don’t have kids and I’m not on Medicaid, so 95% of the bill is automatically useless to me. And tax credit for electric vehicles is nice, too bad I can’t afford to buy one.

But hey, I guess I can get a better Pell Grant now that free community college is off the table./////

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No Malarkey!  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:23:35pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

What “great stuff”? There’s nothing in that bill that’s helping me one little bit, what reason do I have to support it or the party that is trying to lie to my ass about how “great” it is?

Read this thread. Now if you will only vote against fascism if you are personally bribed to do so, I don’t know what to tell you.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:23:49pm

re: #69 Belafon

If you’re going to complain about media framing, then realize that the entire reporting on your scenario will be “Democrats fail to pass Biden’s legislation. The midterms are in doubt. Is Biden’s term already over?”

As opposed to the weeks of lurid reporting already about “Dems in Disarray” and keeping a running count of all the items being jettisoned from the BBB bill. They’re not going to give us credit for what’s in the bill, they’re going to focus on everything that isn’t as a “failure” of Biden to get his agenda passed.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:30:15pm

re: #72 No Malarkey!

Read this thread. Now if you will only vote against fascism if you are personally bribed to do so, I don’t know what to tell you.

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But isn’t that effectively the argument that is being made? That we have to pass this bill to bribe voters other than myself into voting Dem? That if we do nothing then voters will stay home or vote Repub because Dems gave them no reason to vote?

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:31:34pm

This looks interesting.

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:31:35pm

re: #73 Targetpractice

As opposed to the weeks of lurid reporting already about “Dems in Disarray” and keeping a running count of all the items being jettisoned from the BBB bill. They’re not going to give us credit for what’s in the bill, they’re going to focus on everything that isn’t as a “failure” of Biden to get his agenda passed.

Right now, the outcome is still in flux. Your scenario ends it. There’s no incentive for Manchin and Sinema to come back to the table. None.

As for your “It doesn’t benefit me” assertion, that’s the other party’s slogan.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:35:05pm

Probably will want to turn volume down, likely NSFW

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:35:43pm

re: #76 Belafon

Right now, the outcome is still in flux. Your scenario ends it. There’s no incentive for Manchin and Sinema to come back to the table. None.

As for your “It doesn’t benefit me” assertion, that’s the other party’s slogan.

The outcome is not in flux, the outcome is pretty much preordained by this point: It’s the infrastructure bill or nothing. That’s what it’s going to be in a few weeks when the debt ceiling rears its ugly head again and Sinema and Manchin start talking about how we can only raise it through reconciliation. Because Schumer is not going to overrule the parliamentarian and push through two reconciliation bills in a year, he’s going to pass a debt ceiling hike and then mumble about “precedent” as the BBB bill turns from a legislative priority to something the party will “get back to” if they win the midterms.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:39:19pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:46:54pm

Let’s be clear, all the nice stuff listed in #72 is not in the “must-pass” infrastructure bill, it’s in the “would be nice” BBB bill that corporate Dems are actively working to strangle in the crib. FFS, we’re about to spend next year once again trying to sell people on how potholes being filled in their neighborhoods counts as “shovel ready jobs.”

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:50:43pm

Yeesh, the CSS code for LGF has gotten extremely gnarly and hard to follow over the years. I’m gonna need to do something about this eventually.

The big issue stopping me from switching everything to HTTPS now: when I started looking into switching our ad code, I discovered quite a few site owners complaining that their ad income dropped significantly when they did it. And it makes sense because a lot of the metrics advertisers want to collect are more difficult (if not impossible) under HTTPS. So there are fewer advertisers bidding to place ads on HTTPS sites.

Ad income has dropped enormously over the past few years (not just for LGF - everywhere) and losing another 20-30% would not be good.

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jeffreyw  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:53:37pm

Rachel?

or Reuben?

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No Malarkey!  Oct 29, 2021 • 12:54:44pm

re: #74 Targetpractice

But isn’t that effectively the argument that is being made? That we have to pass this bill to bribe voters other than myself into voting Dem? That if we do nothing then voters will stay home or vote Repub because Dems gave them no reason to vote?

That is why the Democrats don’t do nothing. They do stuff that is good for the country, then they campaign on a positive message, instead of “all is lost, we didn’t provide something to every single individual voter in this session of Congress, so we might as well pack it in and let the fascists take over.”

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:00:52pm

re: #41 Citizen K

More importantly, it may be working with the public. I’m shocked to see how close the Governor race is in Virginia.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:02:18pm

re: #83 No Malarkey!

That is why the Democrats don’t do nothing. They do stuff that is good for the country, then they campaign on a positive message, instead of “all is lost, we didn’t provide something to every single individual voter in this session of Congress, so we might as well pack it in and let the fascists take over.”

They want credit for good intentions. “Yeah, we abandoned all our campaign promises, but if you wish really hard we might be able to do it next year.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:03:43pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:05:29pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:08:00pm

Reubens and tiny blueberry cheesecakes?

Somebody call Amnesty International, because I’m being tortured!

//

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:08:05pm

re: #87 The Pie Overlord!

Hmmm…
will they survive FedEx travel to northern Florida?

/s/

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:08:11pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

When I did the site for PMWest (via Wordpress and a heavily customized/coded theme) as a gold dealer we had to go https. Also, the story at the time from Google was to do this, or else they cut you down in the searches. And yet it was and is hurting ad revenues?

That is so effed up.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:08:35pm

re: #46 Citizen K

The problem here is the inherent assumption that this is literally the only chance ever they’ll have, and if they don’t get it now, the voters will have no choice than to stay home or even vote against them Dems. It’s the sort of immediate self-fulfilling prophecy that denies that there’s every any chance to try again with better plans or better numbers, thus ensuring that there’s not going to be a second time around. And it seems to be so ingrained that it leads to the blinkered assumption that if Dems can’t do something immediately, they never wanted to do it in the first place. It’s pure Green Lantern wishcasting that shoots everyone but the GOP in the foot, and then we wonder why the GOP gets all its fucking ponies every time.

Let’s not forget the GOP brilliance at waging culture warfare, inflaming their base, and terrifying everyone else through their lies and disinformation. Remember Americans have the memory of a gnat and you can scare them with a witches’ brew of misinformation and distortion about anything under the sun — this time it’s CRT that is the evil du jour.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:09:20pm

oops wrong paste

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:09:45pm

We do not speak of comment #92.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:09:58pm
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Belafon  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:11:16pm

re: #85 Targetpractice

They want credit for good intentions. “Yeah, we abandoned all our campaign promises, but if you wish really hard we might be able to do it next year.”

THEY are trying to get the bill passed, except for a few people, one of whom has made it known he’s be willing to split from the party, and the other is getting served biscuits by Romney.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:11:24pm

re: #85 Targetpractice

They want credit for good intentions. “Yeah, we abandoned all our campaign promises, but if you wish really hard we might be able to do it next year.”

Well, they aren’t abandoning all of their campaign promises. When they pass these two bills, it will be the most massive investment in the country in decades.

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retired cynic  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:13:02pm

I’m actually getting tired of the negativity. The news media and Republicans do that enough all by themselves. We need to say WHAT WE ARE FOR and WHAT WE HAVE DONE in steps to make that happen.

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:13:44pm

And neither of them give much indication that they think it will affect their election chances. I don’t think Sinema is going to run when she’s up anyway.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:14:29pm

FDA has approved vaccination for 5-11 year olds! yahoo.com

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A Cranky One  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:14:44pm

My biggest disappointment with the BBB bill is the lack of taco trucks on every corner.

Cause you folks are making me hungry.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:15:41pm

re: #100 No Malarkey!

FDA has approved vaccination for 5-11 year olds! yahoo.com

Still has to get the green light from the CDC, early next week, then the jabs can start.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:16:31pm

re: #96 Belafon

THEY are trying to get the bill passed, except for a few people, one of whom has made it known he’s be willing to split from the party, and the other is getting served biscuits by Romney.

I’ve said it before and I will say it again: Joe Manchin will never leave the party because there’s no profit in it for him. McConnell has no reason to move any legislation at all between now and 2024, and Manchin would be out on his ass either after losing the WV GQP primary or the election.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:17:15pm

re: #97 No Malarkey!

Well, they aren’t abandoning all of their campaign promises. When they pass these two bills, it will be the most massive investment in the country in decades.

If.

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ipsos  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:17:57pm

re: #99 Belafon

And neither of them give much indication that they think it will affect their election chances. I don’t think Sinema is going to run when she’s up anyway.

I can’t imagine either of them having much of a chance in 2024 - Sinema because she’s so thoroughly pissed off every imaginable supporter that she’s bound to have primary challengers who can beat her, and Manchin because even if he’s the only viable Democrat, it’s hard to imagine WV reelecting him in a Presidential year when the voters there can have an actual Republican.

2024 is shaping up to be a very challenging year for Democrats in the Senate even away from the likely loss of the WV seat. The seats that will be in play favor the other side, unfortunately.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:18:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:18:24pm

got our booster shots today.

so far, so good

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:20:20pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

got our booster shots today.

so far, so good

The upgrade to the 5G firmware should help with the reception issues.

///

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No Malarkey!  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:20:32pm

re: #104 Targetpractice

If.

They will pass. Don’t let the sight of the sausage getting made make you sick.

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gocart mozart  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:21:31pm
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sagehen  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:23:34pm

re: #62 No Malarkey!

There is a not unreasonable argument that constitutional monarchies are the best form of democracy, precisely because monarchs have no legitimate claim to wield power, preventing the kind of deadlock between legislatures and presidents that occur so often in presidential systems.

I kind of like that the Head of State and Head of Government are different entities. Boris Johnson doesn’t get to do the ceremonial stuff that US presidents get such great photo ops and ads out of, soldiers and athletes don’t have to go to medal rituals presided over by someone they voted against, the royals can do things like the Invictus Games and Earthshot without it being mistaken for a campaign tactic…

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:25:31pm

Y’all should really, really read this essay.

warontherocks.com

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A Cranky One  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:27:55pm

re: #110 gocart mozart

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Reverse them and you get meta data.

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sagehen  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:28:48pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

What “great stuff”? There’s nothing in that bill that’s helping me one little bit, what reason do I have to support it or the party that is trying to lie to my ass about how “great” it is?

Just for one, the child tax credit. Money in pocket every month for the parents of young children, the pared-down BBB continues it for another year, all Republicans voted against it, and if the D’s retain their majority they’ll make it permanent.

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:29:11pm

re: #106 Dave In Austin

America, under Trump and Republican leadership, assaulted some families by separating children from their parents. Fixing that problem isn’t cost free.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:29:20pm

re: #109 No Malarkey!

They will pass. Don’t let the sight of the sausage getting made make you sick.

If they pass, then we can discuss the quality of the sausage and how to sell it. At the moment, I remain confident in predicting that we’re gonna find ourselves in the same basket as we were in 2010, trying to talk voters into giving us a bit more of their patience while we wait for Godot to arrive.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:31:04pm

re: #115 Belafon

America, under Trump and Republican leadership, assaulted some families by separating children from their parents. Fixing that problem isn’t cost free.

Thing is that the assholes don’t see it as a problem, they see it as a solution. Just one step short of the final one that they’d truly like to implement.

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Citizen K  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:31:11pm

The backslide continues unabated with no end in sight.

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:36:37pm

re: #118 Citizen K

The backslide continues unabated with no end in sight.

“The government may pass laws but not provide any means for enforcing them.”

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Amory Blaine  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:36:38pm

Maybe a cocktail with Tip O’Neal is in order. ////

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Amory Blaine  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:39:09pm

Are the hamsters on strike today?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:41:30pm

re: #121 Amory Blaine

Are the hamsters on strike today?

That’s what happens when Charles ignores their demands for nicer wheels.

/

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:42:34pm

re: #121 Amory Blaine

Are the hamsters on strike today?

Negotiations broke down, they’re holding out for more sunflower seeds per week.

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Dangerman  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:42:55pm

re: #87 The Pie Overlord!

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the ones with just the three berries look positively horrified

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A Cranky One  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:43:03pm

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Cheechako  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:53:30pm

Another Florida problem surfaced in Alaska. This I did not expect:

Investigation finds dozens of unqualified Florida doctors tried to get emergency licenses in Alaska

Dozens of unqualified Florida doctors applied for emergency licenses in Alaska this year and a Chile-based company intentionally tried to recruit at least some of them, according to an ongoing investigation conducted at the request of the Alaska State Medical Board.

Fourteen of the unqualified doctors actually got licensed, though none practiced medicine in person or via telehealth before the oversight was discovered, state officials say.

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Dangerman  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:53:34pm

a reminder of what i wrote this morning:

the debate is “only huge” vs ginormous benefits to the country at large and if my piece isnt in it this time then none of the huge is worth it.

we should all take a moment and consider:

you think biden just figured out it was a 50/50 senate yesterday?
senator, VP, almost 50 years experience in the sausage making business
he knew from the start. duh

so he/they made a ginormous ask; knowing full well
it’ll likely wind up huge rather than ginormous
and he didnt have to lie, cheat or steal from anyone

that is the art of the deal

yes, we wished, we hoped, maybe we prayed.
because we won.
we won the trifecta. thought we could do anything we want.
meanwhile 50 year veteran biden knew from day 1 that $3T, $4T, $6T would require 100% of his/our/the majority to support everything.
he knows these people personally - we don’t

he knew full well from the start it would likely wind up huge rather than ginormous

‘huge’ is a great foundational building block on which to add phase 2.
first, that’ll require a bigger/less fickle majority

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William Lewis  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:55:35pm

re: #112 austin_blue

Y’all should really, really read this essay.

warontherocks.com

Excellent.

It reminds me of the fellow I knew while stationed in Germany who pushed the whole myth of the clean Wehrmacht. I didn’t have the history then to rebut it but it always struck me as off, much like the various “lost cause” crapola. In the mid 90’s when “Hitler’s Willing Executioners: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust” came out it put a stake in the heart of that myth of me and I was relieved I finally had the tools to fight it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:55:59pm

Great lede

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mmmirele  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:59:22pm

re: #11 Barefoot Grin

Anyone download Monterey yet? I usually wait a bit until Apple has worked out the bugs.

Speaking of Apple stuffs, has anyone upgraded to iOS 15 on their phone/iPad?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 29, 2021 • 1:59:40pm

re: #126 Cheechako

“Of primary concern is the observation that nearly 50% of the applicants are from Florida, and the discovery that the majority of these applicants are unqualified to practice medicine,” executive administrator Natalie Norberg told the board, according to draft minutes of the meeting.

Additionally, Norberg told the board, division staff discovered that a licensing entity was actively soliciting unqualified applicants, promising full medical licensure in Alaska if they paid fees as high as $1,400.

As usual, it’s all a fucking grift.

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JC1  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:10:17pm

re: #118 Citizen K

The backslide continues unabated with no end in sight.

So by extension, the FDA would have no authority to regulate drugs, etc. Yeah, makes sense.

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darthstar  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:11:08pm

So I had to run an errand and I had MSNBC on in the car and I heard Nicolle Wallace saying that Trump’s attorney, Eastman, is having a hard time finding willing legal counsel. Sucks to be him I guess.

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:13:00pm

re: #132 JC1

So by extension, the FDA would have no authority to regulate drugs, etc. Yeah, makes sense.

“The government can’t force my cooks to wash their hands.”

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:15:14pm

re: #133 darthstar

So I had to run an errand and I had MSNBC on in the car and I heard Nicolle Wallace saying that Trump’s attorney, Eastman, is having a hard time finding willing legal counsel. Sucks to be him I guess.

Well when your options are “perjury” or “snitches get stitches,” finding willing counsel that doesn’t charge a fortune can be difficult.

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gocart mozart  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:16:28pm

re: #113 A Cranky One

Your wish is my command

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Jay C  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:18:14pm

re: #130 mmmirele

Speaking of Apple stuffs, has anyone upgraded to iOS 15 on their phone/iPad?

Yes, moi. On both devices.
Minorly annoyed at some of the display changes, but overall, no serious problems.

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gocart mozart  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:18:50pm

Fuck this lying fascist scumbag to hell.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:19:17pm

re: #135 Targetpractice

Well when your options are “perjury” or “snitches get stitches,” finding willing counsel that doesn’t charge a fortune can be difficult.

Certainly Cleta Mitchell would be delighted to help out — at least until they call her before the committee.

Isn’t pleading the 5th a third option?

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Dave In Austin  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:23:37pm
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jaunte  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:29:26pm
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Belafon  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:31:41pm

re: #141 jaunte

None of those kids have donated to either campaign.

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jaunte  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:31:54pm

Biden Infrastructure Plan state highlights:
documentcloud.org

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:33:27pm

re: #139 Hecuba’s daughter

Certainly Cleta Mitchell would be delighted to help out — at least until they call her before the committee.

Isn’t pleading the 5th a third option?

It is in the sense that legally he can do so. But legal precedent aside, the public spectacle of a guy caught on tape admitting he tried to steal the election declaring he can’t testify on advice of counsel as doing so would incriminate himself will speak volumes.

This is turning into some Iran-Contra shit.

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jaunte  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:34:42pm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:35:48pm

re: #145 jaunte

And just watch the GOP figure out a way to use some of that money for tax cuts.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:37:14pm

re: #82 jeffreyw

Rachel?

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Why not both?

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jeffreyw  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:42:38pm

re: #147 JOE 🥓

Why not both?

I made both of those for lunch today. I had the Rachel today and a Reuben yesterday:

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:42:44pm

re: #146 Eclectic Cyborg

And just watch the GOP figure out a way to use some of that money for tax cuts.

Prison building. To cover the kids they won’t provide pre-K for.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:44:56pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:47:05pm

re: #150 Charles Johnson

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The bird is hovering in place through the power of sheer rage.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:47:33pm

re: #130 mmmirele

Speaking of Apple stuffs, has anyone upgraded to iOS 15 on their phone/iPad?

Yes - no problems on my iPhone. It allows full integration with 1Password with the new Safari extensions feature, which is pretty nice.

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:48:00pm

re: #150 Charles Johnson

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Great blue tit!

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JOE 🥓  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:50:00pm

re: #130 mmmirele

Speaking of Apple stuffs, has anyone upgraded to iOS 15 on their phone/iPad?

Yes. I got the new phone/iPadMini/M1 iPad Pro and the apps work a LOT faster especially on the iPad Pro. SmallFish Chess (built on Stockfish engine) is a lot tougher to play than before.

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Dangerman  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:55:05pm

wapo via politicalwire.com

Michael Gerson: “Only one party has based the main part of its appeal on a transparent lie. To be a loyal Republican in 2021 is to believe that a national conspiracy of big-city mayors, Republican state officials, companies that produce voting machines and perhaps China, or maybe Venezuela, stole the 2020 presidential election. The total absence of evidence indicates to conspiracy theorists (as usual) that the plot was particularly fiendish. Previous iterations of the GOP tried to unite on the basis of ideology and public purpose. The current GOP is united by a common willingness to believe whatever antidemocratic rot comes from the mouth of an ambitious, reckless liar.”

Only one side of our divide employs violent intimidation as a political tool. Since leaving the presidency, Trump has endorsed the view that the events of Jan. 6 were an expression of rowdy patriotism and embraced the cruel slander that the Capitol Police were engaged in oppression.”

“Only one political movement has made a point of denying the existence and legacy of racism, assuring White people that they are equally subject to prejudice, and defending the Confederacy and its monuments as ‘our heritage.’ This is perhaps the ultimate in absurd bothsidesism.”

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sagehen  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:55:52pm
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Dangerman  Oct 29, 2021 • 2:56:09pm

and slate via politicalwire.com

William Saletan: “Together, these statements from 10 of the most powerful Republicans in Congress—five in the Senate, five in the House—show that authoritarian corruption has permeated the party’s power structure. No Republican in leadership is willing to challenge the former president’s lies about the election. Every Republican in leadership is determined to bury the investigation of his coup attempt.”

“The story of the Trump presidency and its aftermath is no longer the story of one failed tyrant. It’s the story of a party that has become a platform for autocrats—and is ready for its next master.”

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 29, 2021 • 3:02:28pm

re: #138 gocart mozart

Republicans are doing all of this and Manchin is telling reporters that he loves Republicans. Arghhh.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 29, 2021 • 3:04:55pm

re: #158 Patricia Kayden

Republicans are doing all of this and Manchin is telling reporters that he loves Republicans. Arghhh.

I think he’s been genuinely deluded into believing his Republican comrades are saying these things under duress from Trump, that if Trump goes away, they’ll stop saying such dumb things and come back to the light. That delusion is extremely dangerous; these people are active and willing participants in the attempted overthrow of the American government.

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jaunte  Oct 29, 2021 • 3:05:33pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 29, 2021 • 3:07:58pm
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jaunte  Oct 29, 2021 • 3:08:37pm

Dec 11, 2020:
Alt-Right Troll Baked Alaska Arrested for Macing Scottsdale Bouncer
phoenixnewtimes.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 29, 2021 • 3:10:33pm

re: #160 jaunte

Watch him get some stupidly light sentence.

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gocart mozart  Oct 29, 2021 • 3:18:53pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 29, 2021 • 3:30:29pm

re: #164 gocart mozart

That’s gotta be a photoshop.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 29, 2021 • 3:31:35pm

re: #130 mmmirele

Speaking of Apple stuffs, has anyone upgraded to iOS 15 on their phone/iPad?

Yeah. I hate it. I hate how tabs are managed. Pinch and zoom suck and only work half the time. I honestly would roll this shit back if I could.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 29, 2021 • 3:36:36pm

re: #166 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Yeah. I hate it. I hate how tabs are managed. Pinch and zoom suck and only work half the time. I honestly would roll this shit back if I could.

Yeah, Apple will never allow customers to do that.

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stpaulbear  Oct 29, 2021 • 3:46:50pm

re: #138 gocart mozart

Fuck this lying fascist scumbag to hell.

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Laura was interviewed on the Lunch With Lincoln podcast today. She got pretty feisty making her points when the host was trying to redirect the conversation, and Reed is one of the more likable LP guys (fuck watching Rick Wilson). I liked her a lot.

Lunch With Lincoln - LP Co-Founder Reed Galen and creator of The Undercurrent, Lauren Windsor

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Oct 29, 2021 • 4:15:04pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

I’ve been hearing rumors that Cucker Tarlson is possibly very close to being shit-canned by Fox and they are trying to dot all their Is and cross all their Ts before doing it, so he’s been heading off further into Alex Jones Land with his schtick in preparation to start up an Alex Jones style show.

If there’s any truth to any of that, “The Patriot Purge” thing is either one of the reasons for the potential shit-canning, or part of the prep for his post-Fox grift. I’m leaning to the latter unless Fox is increasingly concerned about financial and legal liability for his shenanigans, and this is a bridge too far.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2021 • 4:19:57pm

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s gotta be a photoshop.

Before there was PhotoShop, there was MeatShop.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 29, 2021 • 4:47:38pm

re: #118 Citizen K

The backslide continues unabated with no end in sight.

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Teukka  Oct 30, 2021 • 5:17:58am

re: #150 Charles Johnson


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Ranked-Choice Voting Has Challenged the Status Quo. Its Popularity Will Be Tested in November. JUNEAU — Alaska’s new election system — with open primaries and ranked voting — has been a model for those in other states who are frustrated by political polarization and a sense that voters lack real choice at the ...
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