The Bob Cesca Podcast: Legitimate Political Discourse

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Legitimate Political Discourse — [Explicit Language] The Republican censure of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger. How to convince low energy Democrats to vote. The political discourse is off the rails. Bill Maher’s latest Make-Believe-It’s-Gone rant and a new LA Times op/ed that pushes back. Debunking Maher’s cherrypicking on COVID. Trump stole White House documents. The Supreme Court stays a decision to keep racist gerrymandering map. The January jobs report and massive upward revisions. With Buzz Burbank and music by The Metal Byrds, and more!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:37:40pm
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Dangerman  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:40:25pm

Some Kind of discoursing going on here

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Charles Johnson  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:41:19pm
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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:46:01pm

re: #2 Dangerman

Every time I see that picture the music from Donkey Kong Jr. pops into my head.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:47:44pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:51:26pm

CL’ed
re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s illegal what she did.

Such a weird way of speaking. Those of us who speak English as our first language would say “What she did” (subject) “is illegal” (predicate)

Trump always puts the predicate first “This Horrible Thing!” then the subject “That They Did!” (whoever he is blaming)

I think this reversal of subject and predicate is deliberate and it’s not because English isn’t Trump’s first language (I suppose incoherent babble is his first language) it is blurting out stuff that he knows he has done and then finding someone else to blame it on.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:53:28pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:58:19pm
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Decatur Deb  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:00:27pm

About the capstone photo: What is the black/red/white flag with letters and a cross on it?

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Charles Johnson  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:08:15pm

re: #9 Decatur Deb

About the capstone photo: What is the black/red/white flag with letters and a cross on it?

I was wondering about that too. Could be a Jesus fish above the cross.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:09:07pm

re: #9 Decatur Deb

About the capstone photo: What is the black/red/white flag with letters and a cross on it?

Looks like JESUS inside the evangelical fish outline.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:10:53pm
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RoJo Must Go!  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:11:12pm

re: #9 Decatur Deb

Jesusfish in Nazi colors.

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Captain Magic  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:15:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:15:46pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:15:46pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Can you imagine getting suspended with 16,000 followers and have to start all over from scratch?

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Charles Johnson  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:18:49pm

re: #16 The Pie Overlord!

Can you imagine getting suspended with 16,000 followers and have to start all over from scratch?

Yes, that sucks mightily. If I were running Twitter, shit like that wouldn’t happen. (As much.)

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:19:43pm

CRY MORE BITCH

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:20:55pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

Yes, that sucks mightily. If I were running Twitter, shit like that wouldn’t happen. (As much.)

But twice as much for nazis instead of people who tell nazis to get fucked by themselves.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:22:05pm

re: #18 The Pie Overlord!

CRY MORE BITCH

Joe, that’s what happens when you say a lot of stupid shit. It comes back to bite you in the ass. I know there are lots of things out there I’ve said that I’d have to apologize for if I came to national prominence, but I freely acknowledge that fact and that I was wrong to say it, and people have a right to call me out for it even years later.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:27:09pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

I was wondering about that too. Could be a Jesus fish above the cross.

No luck scanning google images. It could be “JESUS” in a fish outline.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:27:34pm

Did Michaela Shiffrin wipe out again? Oh GD that sucks so hard.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:31:37pm

re: #22 The Pie Overlord!

Did Michaela Shiffrin wipe out again? Oh GD that sucks so hard.

I tend not to watch the Olympics, but is this related to the potential issues of artificial snow? It’s times like this when teleskiguy would have professional insight.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:33:02pm

re: #23 Hecuba’s daughter

I tend not to watch the Olympics, but is this related to the potential issues of artificial snow? It’s times like this when teleskiguy would have professional insight.

She wiped out in two events, but other competitors had no issue completing the course.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:34:08pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Troy Nehls was one of those McCarthy nominated to the 1/6 commission. It would be totally on brand for him to select representatives who were involved in plotting the insurrection.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:35:56pm
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Jay C  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:37:08pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

So (translating from Republican Congress-speak) Nehls probably has done something wrong, and is highly offended at the idea it might be found out…

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:39:21pm

So now NBC is playing Shiffrin’s humiliation over and over again. They don’t show Kamila Valieva attack the ice with her ass in the team event.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:43:00pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:48:05pm
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retired cynic  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:48:07pm

Brett Kavanaugh Loves Him Some Shadow Docket
When Justice Elena Kagan suggested the Supreme Court conservatives are abusing the mechanism, the former Boof King of Georgetown Prep was not pleased.
esquire.com

Nobody who watched Brett Kavanaugh’s barroom-pest performance before the Senate Judiciary Committee came away with any doubt that PJ and Squee’s pal has a skin so thin that, if he swallowed a firefly, he’d glow like a Japanese lantern.

I love me some Charlie Pierce.

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Dangerman  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:58:29pm

re: #18 The Pie Overlord!

CRY MORE BITCH

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They’re taking all this stuff I’ve ever said that’s wrong and smushing it all together.”

You sure said a lot of “wrong” stuff

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gwangung  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:05:34pm

re: #32 Dangerman

They’re taking all this stuff I’ve ever said that’s wrong and smushing it all together.”

You sure said a lot of “wrong” stuff

Most good people’s stuff that’s wrong that gets smushed together is actually….microscopic.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:12:30pm
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jaunte  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:16:50pm

Some descendants of the semi-continent that colonized the world are sure desperate to prove they couldn’t be the violent ones.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:17:24pm
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gwangung  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:20:14pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Well, he perfected it into super-dickery when he grew up….

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jaunte  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:20:41pm
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William Lewis  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:21:45pm

My GF lost power last Thursday night from the ice storm in Memphis. They’re staying at friends across town as a result.

She just got a text message from her thermostat that it’s cold in the house - IOW the power is finally back on after that many days. They’ll go home after work/school tomorrow.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:25:10pm

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mmmirele  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:28:28pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

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This dude…I’m actually kind of glad that this took off. He’s part of 1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith Twitter. Which I know means next to nothing to you all, but it’s like Uber Calvinistas on Steroids. While each church is independent, they do link up together in ways, so, for example, Brian Sauve, the guy who wrote the tweet, is pastor of Refuge Church in Ogden, Utah. He let Jeff Durbin, pastor of Apologia Church in my neighborhood, preach at his church back in 2019. Which he would not do unless they were in general agreement. Oh yeah, Jeff Durbin’s the dude who wants to execute women who have abortions. So yeah, this is part of the appeal of the 1689ers.

That this guy stepped on his dick in public and managed to piss off not just Evangelical Twitter but English-language Twitter warms the cockles of my cold, cold heart.

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:35:03pm
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Belafon  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:38:02pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

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jaunte  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:44:51pm

re: #43 Belafon

Kirk H. Sowell
@KirkHSowell
History, culture & politics… from an international perspective | political analyst, orientalist, historian, linguist | Richelieuen, Burkean, Madisonian

He must be very very smart.

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mmmirele  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:45:59pm

re: #41 mmmirele

The loser went off and whined on his FB, I let him have it.

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Florida Panhandler  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:48:35pm

re: #18 The Pie Overlord!

CRY MORE BITCH

“ how dare people take things I’ve profited handsomely on in the past and make me out to be a bad guy.”

What a completely weak douchebag.

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:58:55pm
Douglas Trumbull, the visual effect pioneer behind some of the most groundbreaking work in motion picture history, including 2001: A Space Odyssey, Blade Runner, and Close Encounters Of The Third Kind, has died from complications with mesothelioma. His daughter, Amy, confirmed his death on Facebook earlier today, writing that he had a brain tumor and a stroke during a two-year struggle with cancer. He was 79.

Born in Los Angeles on April 8, 1942, Trumbull was part of a motion picture legacy. His father, Donald Trumbull, worked on special effects for The Wizard Of Oz and, later, Star Wars: Episode IV — A New Hope, a standard the younger Trumbull would meet and exceed during his career.

R.I.P. Douglas Trumbull, visual effects pioneer behind 2001 and Blade Runner (Onion AV Club)

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Rightwingconspirator  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:11:45pm

re: #47 Punish Domestic Terrorists

R.I.P. Douglas Trumbull, visual effects pioneer behind 2001 and Blade Runner (Onion AV Club)

Oof. That hurts. A career well done though. Can’t ask for more.

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jaunte  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:11:47pm
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Belafon  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:12:53pm

My 12 year old chiweenie thought he was about 7 and, after running around the house, tried to jump up on the couch, which he used to could do. It didn’t work. Luckily, he couldn’t really jump high enough to do any damage.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:16:44pm

I’d be shocked as well.

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Rightwingconspirator  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:18:10pm

re: #50 Belafon

My 12 year old chiweenie thought he was about 7 and, after running around the house, tried to jump up on the couch, which he used to could do. It didn’t work. Luckily, he couldn’t really jump high enough to do any damage.

My 15 year old Maine Coon makes the same kind of mistake sometimes. Pepper hurt a knee long ago and it haunts her moves these days.

Pepper a couple weeks ago
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ckkatz  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:28:55pm

re: #21 Decatur Deb

No luck scanning google images. It could be “JESUS” in a fish outline.

The large number of religious based flags and other symbols at the Capitol insurrection was noticed by a lot of folks. Both in the secular and in the religious adjacent media. There has been a lot of discussion regarding “Christian Nationalism” and it’s affection for Trump. Iirc, most concluded that “Christian Nationalism” was mostly Nationalism and very little Christian.

One writer identified the following at the Capitol Hill insurrection:

- The Christian flag, an ecumenical white flag with a blue field and a red Latin cross, was carried by one rioter on to the floor of the House of Representatives even as guns were drawn to keep them out;
- At least two flags featuring the icthys, the outline of a fish adopted by early Christians;
- An American flag altered to read “Make America Godly Again” on its white stripes;
- A white flag with a green pine tree and the words “An Appeal to Heaven;”
- And blowing prominently in the foreground as the mob kicked in a Capitol door was a red, white and blue flag that proclaimed, “Jesus is my savior” and “Trump is my President” on either sides of an elongated American flag.

The history behind the Christian flags spotted at the pro-Trump U.S. Capitol ‘coup’
religionunplugged.com

To my mind, the strangest mixture of symbols was from the Dec 12th pro-tfg “Jericho March”. There was the guy who carried an Israeli flag above a sign labeled and picturing Jesus. Some of the participants were described as blowing rams’ horns/shofars.

This is discussed in the Atlantic article:

A Christian Insurrection
theatlantic.com

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Belafon  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:32:21pm

I keep getting emails claiming that it will be delivered on , whichever day tomorrow is. I’ve gotten them the last 5 days.

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ckkatz  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:48:02pm

I’ve been going down some rabbit-hols on the Ottawa situation. Here are a couple of interesting threads.

1. Alexander McClelland identifies himself as an Carlton University Asst Professor. This thread is from Feb 4th. I do not remember it being posted here at lgf. If I am mistaken, my apologies:

2. This one caught my eye because of the account name. I don’t think it is related to our missed lizard, though. She specializes in contacting insurers and owners of trucks identified in the Ottawa blockade. I do not think that this counts as doxxing.

I have also seen discussions regarding whether many of the vehicles in the blockade have been rented.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:53:39pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:59:53pm

re: #56 Dave In Austin

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Saw the story earlier, the cops were serving a warrant for her iPad, as she was seen using it to record video during a closed hearing involving one of her deputy clerks. And in true MAGA Karen fashion, she decided to defy the warrant and refuse to turn over the iPad, leading the cops to put her in cuffs while they retrieved it from her bag. She was released right after, but now she’s gonna end up facing further charges (possibly including attempted assault).

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ckkatz  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:14:55pm

Youtube Video

Musu Laiks (Our Time)
[Latvian]

Now, here and now
No time to wait how it will be tomorrow
Fears will disappear like a steam
Know it, this is our time!

lyricstranslate.com

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Targetpractice  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:22:04pm

re: #18 The Pie Overlord!

CRY MORE BITCH

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What you’re really hearing is not Joe, but the Spotify suits who are beginning to consider ripping up his meal ticket. The ones who either looked through his catalogue and signed him anyway or failed to do their due diligence before making their offer to him. Either way, what was seen as a “freeze peach” situation a week ago is now a massive fucking dumpster fire that is only continuing to grow despite forcing him to give an “apology.”

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ckkatz  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:37:21pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:42:04pm

I call BS on the above. “Somewhat support” what does that really mean, my guess is I agree they have I right to protest, but this is too much.

I did my worlde

time for sleep.

rock on good people

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ckkatz  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:42:21pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:48:16pm

re: #60 ckkatz

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The phrasing of that poll question gives some of those supporters an out, because they can rationalize their vote for support by going “Well yes, I support getting rid of mandates and health measures, but I don’t like the way they’re going about it.”

You know, like so many of the “Do you support President Trump’s efforts to….” polls back in the day where even people who thought of him as a blight on humanity were still cool with whatever “idea” he was pushing at the time.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:50:53pm

I got an indirect answer from the Trumpster who asked why there was a 40% increase in mortality for working people; it’s not the pandemic, it’s the vaccine that’s killing all those people!

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gwangung  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:52:50pm

re: #64 Hecuba’s daughter

I got an indirect answer from the Trumpster who asked why there was a 40% increase in mortality for working people; it’s not the pandemic, it’s the vaccine that’s killing all those people!

Centered mostly in people who were unvaccinated?

Riiiiiiggghhhht.

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ckkatz  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:08:22pm

re: #63 Targetpractice

The phrasing of that poll question gives some of those supporters an out, because they can rationalize their vote for support by going “Well yes, I support getting rid of mandates and health measures, but I don’t like the way they’re going about it.”

You know, like so many of the “Do you support President Trump’s efforts to….” polls back in the day where even people who thought of him as a blight on humanity were still cool with whatever “idea” he was pushing at the time.

You and Iwouldprefernotto raise a very interesting question.

I thought that the poll results were interesting because that they are being interpreted as about 1/3 support for the truckers. And supposedly these numbers are fairly consistent among recent polls.

Based upon their hands-off approach, it seems to me that the Canadian politicians, whose job it is to understand these polls, believe that there is not yet enough public support to directly crack down on the occupiers. But I also suspect that the politicians are carefully watching the 15% on each side adjacent to the support/not support columns.

So we are watching a series of psy-op exercises where each side is attempting to sway enough citizens to achieve their goals. (Shut down or expand the occupation; Maintain or seize power.)

Unfortunately, these actions bleed into real life and injure real people. The occupiers on the ground in particular, are cannon-fodder and could face real consequences. Not that the Occupier leadership much cares about them.

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Targetpractice  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:09:57pm

re: #62 ckkatz

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I’ve dubbed this Putin’s “Munich moment” in the past but it’s looking more like his Cuban Missile Crisis. The biggest issue he’s facing right now is that all those men and all that materiel he’s placed on Ukraine’s border are costing the economy money they can’t afford simply sitting in the mud and slowly succumbing to COVID and other diseases associated with poor sanitation. Winter weather does horrible things to vehicles and equipment, meaning constant maintenance that drives up the costs further while increasing the misery of the troops. Fuel and spare parts are probably in short supply and need to be transported in, which is itself another item on a ledger that is deep in the red by now. By contrast, NATO’s costs are largely in financial and materiel support to Ukraine’s own forces, which is a lot cheaper even if it’s also a lot less impressive on the world stage.

Eventually Vlad’s gonna have to shit or get off the pot, because the longer this goes on the more likely that if he does give the order to march on Kyiv there will be no one to obey it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:11:20pm

re: #65 gwangung

Centered mostly in people who were unvaccinated?

Riiiiiiggghhhht.

The insurance companies said there was a 40% increase in mortality — not necessarily identifying the cause. These people believe that the deaths were not from COVID but the vaccine. The antivaxxers have infiltrated our world from the mirror universe; they need to return there.

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ckkatz  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:26:04pm

re: #67 Targetpractice

I’ve dubbed this Putin’s “Munich moment” in the past but it’s looking more like his Cuban Missile Crisis. The biggest issue he’s facing right now is that all those men and all that materiel he’s placed on Ukraine’s border are costing the economy money they can’t afford simply sitting in the mud and slowly succumbing to COVID and other diseases associated with poor sanitation. Winter weather does horrible things to vehicles and equipment, meaning constant maintenance that drives up the costs further while increasing the misery of the troops. Fuel and spare parts are probably in short supply and need to be transported in, which is itself another item on a ledger that is deep in the red by now. By contrast, NATO’s costs are largely in financial and materiel support to Ukraine’s own forces, which is a lot cheaper even if it’s also a lot less impressive on the world stage.

Eventually Vlad’s gonna have to shit or get off the pot, because the longer this goes on the more likely that if he does give the order to march on Kyiv there will be no one to obey it.

Very true. Russia has limitations, including force projection limits. And, as you point, there is a use it or lose it timer that has begun.

My current understanding of the situation is:
(I have been wrong many times)

People in the West also seem to forget that Putin reportedly has a toxic narcissistic personality. And may not be a wholly rational actor.

As, the article noted, Putin rather than try to split off Macron from the rest of Europe decided to alienate him instead.

But, as of this minute, Putin, by occupying Belarus and re-occupying the Kaliningrad enclave has effectively moved the Russian border hundreds of miles further west. He also has deployed sufficient military power to occupy Ukraine. (The question is whether Russia will be able manage the cost to hold it long term.) So, at the moment he is sitting in the catbird seat.

But, as Seneca said “The fortunes of war are always doubtful.”

Of course, my favorite quote about war is:
“God created war so that Americans would learn geography.”
― Mark Twain

My second favorite is:
“It’s hard to lead a cavalry charge if you think you look funny on a horse.”
― Adlai E. Stevenson

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Captain Ron  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:26:12pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:26:49pm

re: #66 ckkatz

You and Iwouldprefernotto raise a very interesting question.

I thought that the poll results were interesting because that they are being interpreted as about 1/3 support for the truckers. And supposedly these numbers are fairly consistent among recent polls.

Based upon their hands-off approach, it seems to me that the Canadian politicians, whose job it is to understand these polls, believe that there is not yet enough public support to directly crack down on the occupiers. But I also suspect that the politicians are carefully watching the 15% on each side adjacent to the support/not support columns.

So we are watching a series of psy-op exercises where each side is attempting to sway enough citizens to achieve their goals. (Shut down or expand the occupation; Maintain or seize power.)

Unfortunately, these actions bleed into real life and injure real people. The occupiers on the ground in particular, are cannon-fodder and could face real consequences. Not that the Occupier leadership much cares about them.

It’s a similar issue to the polls in the past decade involving the ACA: Polls would either be split down the middle or “opposed” to the law because people had heard about all the horror stories like the “individual mandate” or “death panels.” But then you’d list the individual parts and find overwhelming support.

Or you’d ask if the law went “too far/not far enough/just right/RON PAUL!” and get told that “too far” had the majority with less than 30% because “not far enough” and “just right” were presented separately rather than combined to show 40%+ support for it.

Polls can say whatever you like depending upon how you phrase the question or how you calculate the response, hence why both sides are trying their damnedest to spin this poll in their favor.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:39:27pm

Poor Ricky…..

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ckkatz  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:42:16pm

re: #71 Targetpractice

It’s a similar issue to the polls in the past decade involving the ACA: Polls would either be split down the middle or “opposed” to the law because people had heard about all the horror stories like the “individual mandate” or “death panels.” But then you’d list the individual parts and find overwhelming support.

Or you’d ask if the law went “too far/not far enough/just right/RON PAUL!” and get told that “too far” had the majority with less than 30% because “not far enough” and “just right” were presented separately rather than combined to show 40%+ support for it.

Polls can say whatever you like depending upon how you phrase the question or how you calculate the response, hence why both sides are trying their damnedest to spin this poll in their favor.

Yes, very true. Polls are inexact, at best. And they need to be approached with extreme humility. Iirc, Nate Silver got amusingly and quite publicly ratio’ed when he didn’t exhibit any humility and ended up quite wrong.

I am certainly not an expert in polling nor in using it. So I try to watch the politicians and how they treat and use the data. Of course, not all their activity is visible to peasants like myself. Further, some politicians may just not be that good at using that data either, though.

And yes, the spin is certainly part of the psy-ops used by each side.

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Captain Ron  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:50:39pm

Nice riding weather today, 71F. 1904 miles on the bike in 8 months. I saw a dozen snowy egrets sitting in the top of a bare tree, like a bunch of albino vultures waiting over the trail. Tomorrow is a yardwork day but Thursday should be 75F. T-shirt riding weather!

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:56:01pm

Since I kind of missed it, in the last thread when some comedians defending Joe Rogan was being spoken of…

One of the points is that if it’s comedy, it should be funny more or less. It can be educational, thought provoking, controversial, or edgy bordering on vile, but it has to be funny.

Joe Rogan isn’t a comedian. He’s done some standup. It was never the focus of his career. It was mediocre and it was along time ago. He doesn’t do it any more. His show podcast/show/whatever is not a comedy show. It’s not funny except for accidentally or incidentally. Comedians shouldn’t be worried that “they’re next” if they criticize someone platforming disinformation via misinformation about a dangerous public health threat.

Carlin was brought up. I don’t know what he would think of this, but I can say this as a long time fan of his. I didn’t like everything he did. I wasn’t particularly a fan of his later “old man yells at cloud and threatens violence on it” shit that he started doing around the “You’re All Diseased” album and tour (which I saw live). Sometimes his forays into political topics were childish, conspiratorial, both-sides crap, or outright nihilistic, but it was… always… funny.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Feb 8, 2022 • 11:08:33pm

Reality TV show. With Kardashians.

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ckkatz  Feb 8, 2022 • 11:18:19pm

Hmm, they updated the song:

Youtube Video

Btw -Not a song about a flaxen haired woman.

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ckkatz  Feb 8, 2022 • 11:21:02pm

re: #76 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

*snork*

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Captain Ron  Feb 8, 2022 • 11:29:45pm
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IngisKahn  Feb 8, 2022 • 11:55:09pm

re: #164 rhuarc

Here is an article with the a link to the TikTok video that talks about ROATE and LINDS.

intheknow.com

I’d like to see his methodology. I’m using the exact same method and TARES comes out on top by far. A good second word for TARES is DUOMI, but it’s only optimal in some cases.

Total words: 15920

TARES
Position 0 is T: 981 Contains T: 3867
Position 1 is A: 2871 Contains A: 7248
Position 2 is R: 1544 Contains R: 4865
Position 3 is E: 2509 Contains E: 6729
Position 4 is S: 3149 Contains S: 5872

ROATE
Position 0 is R: 682 Contains R: 4865
Position 1 is O: 2282 Contains O: 4614
Position 2 is A: 1482 Contains A: 7248
Position 3 is T: 1020 Contains T: 3867
Position 4 is E: 1874 Contains E: 6729

LINDS
Position 0 is L: 680 Contains L: 3924
Position 1 is I: 1670 Contains I: 4768
Position 2 is N: 1239 Contains N: 3774
Position 3 is D: 545 Contains D: 2640
Position 4 is S: 3149 Contains S: 5872

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2022 • 12:58:02am

Wordle theory?

This is really getting meta.

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IngisKahn  Feb 9, 2022 • 1:48:40am

OK, here’s the skinny:
Given a guess word, there are 242 possible clue states (3^5 -1). (I skip the trivial all green clue.) For each state I count the resulting word list that could fit that that clue. I then remove any states where the count is 0, since they would never be given as clues. Here are the results:

TARES
Count: 207 Sum: 15918 Min: 1 Max10: 1155,999,842,666,636,445,428,398,397,353 Range: 1154 Median: 21.0 Mode: 1 Mean: 76.9
Variance: 23,894.3 Standard Deviation: 154.6
ROATE
Count: 178 Sum: 15918 Min: 1 Max10: 1597,1099,1075,654,644,573,540,470,449,389 Range: 1596 Median: 17.0 Mode: 1 Mean: 89.4
Variance: 39,290.9 Standard Deviation: 198.2
LINDS
Count: 158 Sum: 15918 Min: 1 Max10: 2742,1242,1172,1117,798,784,648,384,379,375 Range: 2741 Median: 15.0 Mode: 1 Mean: 100.7
Variance: 83,321.7 Standard Deviation: 288.7

TARES is gonna get you there sooner.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2022 • 2:07:39am

re: #82 IngisKahn

“…keeping your eye on the camel, paste down the edge of the sailor’s uniform until the world “Maudling” is almost entirely obscured…”

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IngisKahn  Feb 9, 2022 • 2:11:59am

They dared to call me mad.
I’ll show them! I’ll show them all!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2022 • 2:24:51am

Youtube Video

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Targetpractice  Feb 9, 2022 • 2:27:19am

Well, that was fun.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2022 • 2:31:39am

re: #79 Dread Pirate Ron

Fighting goats block off the entrance to Asda car park in Llandudno

Who ya gonna call? GOATBUSTERS!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 9, 2022 • 2:38:12am

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Youtube Video


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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2022 • 2:58:20am

re: #88 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I remember once camping along the Clooney Waters in Aberdeenshire, Scotland, listening to the call of the curlews on yon distant hills…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 9, 2022 • 3:00:32am

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Youtube Video


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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 3:01:49am

re: #70 Dread Pirate Ron

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NY Times’ restrained coverage of Trump’s illegal handling of White House records is in stark contrast to its 2016 focus obsession

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2022 • 3:31:09am

re: #91 Dangerman

NY Times’ restrained coverage of Trump’s illegal handling of White House records is in stark contrast to its 2016 focus obsession

Shouldn’t Trump be called in for nine hours of grilling before the Senate over all those boxes full of documents?

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Targetpractice  Feb 9, 2022 • 3:31:22am

re: #70 Dread Pirate Ron

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I still remember the literal shit fit that the legacy media threw over rumors that the Clintons had ransacked the WH and been so petty as to pry all the “W” keys from every keyboard.

So to hear that they found WH furniture at MAL and the media’s giving the orange turd a pass on that is just disgusting.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 9, 2022 • 4:20:51am

re: #28 The Pie Overlord!

So now NBC is playing Shiffrin’s humiliation over and over again. They don’t show Kamila Valieva attack the ice with her ass in the team event.

That comments made me laugh so much I couldn’t control the mouse pointer to upding you!

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 4:39:38am

re: #92 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Shouldn’t Trump be called in for nine hours of grilling before the Senate over all those boxes full of documents?

it would still be 2 hours short of hillary’s 11 hour record

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 4:43:51am

re: #93 Targetpractice

I still remember the literal shit fit that the legacy media threw over rumors that the Clintons had ransacked the WH and been so petty as to pry all the “W” keys from every keyboard.

So to hear that they found WH furniture at MAL and the media’s giving the orange turd a pass on that is just disgusting.

and that stuff was nonsense
“How the incoming Bush team nudge-nudged a credulous press corps into swallowing a trashy Clinton story”

Now it seems those closely detailed stories were largely bunk. Last week it was revealed that a formal review by the General Accounting Office, Congress’ investigative agency, “had found no damage to the offices of the White House’s East or West Wings or EOB” and that Bush’s own representatives had reported “there is no record of damage that may have been deliberately caused by the employees of the Clinton administration.”

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2022 • 4:44:33am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

It was available in Walmart.

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jeffreyw  Feb 9, 2022 • 4:47:00am

jerked fish with fermented peppers

Good morning!

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darthstar  Feb 9, 2022 • 4:54:14am

Wordle 235 4/6

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 4:56:30am

Heads up:

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 4:57:18am
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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 5:00:36am
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Patricia Kayden  Feb 9, 2022 • 5:04:46am

re: #56 Dave In Austin

Best thing I’ve seen all week!! 😊

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2022 • 5:05:47am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 9, 2022 • 5:08:33am

re: #62 ckkatz

People remember petty crap like that.

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darthstar  Feb 9, 2022 • 5:13:56am

mathler.com 8 3/6

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2022 • 5:18:30am

re: #101 Belafon

900,000 dead… and Americans are ready to move on and end the pandemic.

We’re all sick and tired of the pandemic. I hate having to mask up. I hate having to worry that not masking might ultimately kill someone I love b/c they can’t vaccinate. I hate having to worry that not masking or not being sufficiently careful might put me or a loved one in a hospital despite being vaccinated and boosted.

I hate that there’s about a 30% of the population - not evenly distributed around the nation - that refuses to vaccinate because they’ve made it a political decision, which means significant parts of the country will continue to see outbreaks and deaths that quickly overwhelm the local hospital systems (and that affects everyone else, because degraded care also affects ER, resources, and health care workers). So I hate that even where most everyone is doing the right thing, the sociopaths can overwhelm the hospital systems and harm those who have done everything right but suffered from heart attacks, strokes, accidents, etc.

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darthstar  Feb 9, 2022 • 5:19:57am

Stephanie Ruhle to take over the 11th Hour…good choice.

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 5:24:30am

re: #103 Patricia Kayden

Best thing I’ve seen all week!! 😊

how dare you….
i will not be treated…
you have no right…
do you know who….

what she should have tried was ‘i can’t breathe’, though that hasnt worked before

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2022 • 5:24:58am

re: #100 Belafon

It’s a scam, because actual health experts have found that it made a significant difference.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 5:34:19am
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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 5:34:22am
Washington Post: “The phrase ‘legitimate political discourse’ did not appear in an original draft of the resolution by top Trump ally David Bossie… Instead, Bossie’s version said the committee had a disregard for ‘minority rights’ and ‘due process’ and seemed ‘intent on advancing a political agenda to buoy the Democrat Party’s bleak electoral prospects.’”

“It is unclear how the words ‘legitimate political discourse’ came to enter the document.”

he did manage to get “Democrat Party” in there

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 5:35:59am

This is Tashara Parker, the morning traffic reporter on WFAA. I love watching her for the outfits and the warnings about traffic. She went cheetah this morning:

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darthstar  Feb 9, 2022 • 5:38:50am

re: #109 Dangerman

Give me my key to my car!
Lady, for one, you can’t drive in handcuffs. Also, are there voting machines in your car?

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No Malarkey!  Feb 9, 2022 • 5:41:35am

Republican wants transgender kids to be bullied by their classmates, I guess so they will go kill themselves so she doesn’t have to be made uncomfortable by them anymore.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 9, 2022 • 5:42:59am

re: #115 No Malarkey!

Republican wants transgender kids to be bullied by their classmates, I guess so they will go kill themselves so she doesn’t have to be made uncomfortable by them anymore.

I do not understand this complete sociopathy on the part of an entire political party. What is their damage that they feel they have to be allowed to be mean to people they don’t like?

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BigPapa  Feb 9, 2022 • 5:43:40am

re: #116 Dopamine Fish

I do not understand this complete sociopathy on the part of an entire political party. What is their damage that they feel they have to be allowed to be mean to people they don’t like?

Make America Hate Again

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2022 • 5:44:59am

re: #115 No Malarkey!

More school shootings likely.
More suicides likely.
More gun sales and more insistence that public education is failing.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 9, 2022 • 5:45:51am

re: #107 lawhawk

900,000 dead… and Americans are ready to move on and end the pandemic.

We’re all sick and tired of the pandemic. I hate having to mask up. I hate having to worry that not masking might ultimately kill someone I love b/c they can’t vaccinate. I hate having to worry that not masking or not being sufficiently careful might put me or a loved one in a hospital despite being vaccinated and boosted.

I hate that there’s about a 30% of the population - not evenly distributed around the nation - that refuses to vaccinate because they’ve made it a political decision, which means significant parts of the country will continue to see outbreaks and deaths that quickly overwhelm the local hospital systems (and that affects everyone else, because degraded care also affects ER, resources, and health care workers). So I hate that even where most everyone is doing the right thing, the sociopaths can overwhelm the hospital systems and harm those who have done everything right but suffered from heart attacks, strokes, accidents, etc.

And there is nothing we can do about it. The Supreme Court has tied the hands of the Administration, and antivaxxers are now a key component of the GOP base and will be coddled in red states. The (more like 20%) of the adult population that refuses to vaccinate will keep getting reinfected over and over again; covid/flu season is now going to be a permanent part of American life.

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 5:49:21am

re: #110 lawhawk

It’s a scam, because actual health experts have found that it made a significant difference.

Australia, Japan, Canada and others have lower death rates and higher vax rates.

amazing how the elite business class have convinced Americans there is nothing we can do about the virus.

We should just live with it.

What a profound admission of failure.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2022 • 5:52:12am

Anti-maskers have won.

States are dropping masking and other mandates around covid because rates appear to be dropping, which guarantees that we’ll see another wave soon enough, especially in the states with lowest vaccination rates.

We’ve never had a proper lockdown in the US (or most of the rest of the world outside of China and a handful of countries). People who claim the US had a lockdown are deluded as to what a lockdown actually is. People were able to come and go and it was individual businesses that shut down because of high risks, workers sickened, or fear that their staff/customers would be sickened.

And we haven’t had anything like a lockdown since the early days of 2020.

Schools are also not remote these days. Nearly all are in-person. But some of the same people complaining about remote learning are also those who think that homeschooling is better than public education, and they’re not worried about the sociological/psychological effects on their kids that they’ve been homeschooling all along. Kids are more resilient than adults want to give credit for, and will also mask and take safety steps more than their parents would otherwise allow/require (and that’s part of the reason they hate schooling so much - critical thinking and understanding the world around them would reveal inadequacies of the parents).

We’re rushing headlong into reopening fully, even as the pandemic kills thousands a day every day. It’s just a statistic now, and it doesn’t even rate a check in the nightly news.

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steve_davis  Feb 9, 2022 • 5:57:08am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Video

an actor desperately in need of some time at the Royal Hospital of Overacting.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:00:12am

re: #115 No Malarkey!

I bet she’s devastated that the Black kids can’t be called the N word as well. Nice lady. So much Christian love.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:00:47am

re: #121 lawhawk

Anti-maskers have won.

States are dropping masking and other mandates around covid because rates appear to be dropping, which guarantees that we’ll see another wave soon enough, especially in the states with lowest vaccination rates.

We’ve never had a proper lockdown in the US (or most of the rest of the world outside of China and a handful of countries). People who claim the US had a lockdown are deluded as to what a lockdown actually is. People were able to come and go and it was individual businesses that shut down because of high risks, workers sickened, or fear that their staff/customers would be sickened.

And we haven’t had anything like a lockdown since the early days of 2020.

Schools are also not remote these days. Nearly all are in-person. But some of the same people complaining about remote learning are also those who think that homeschooling is better than public education, and they’re not worried about the sociological/psychological effects on their kids that they’ve been homeschooling all along. Kids are more resilient than adults want to give credit for, and will also mask and take safety steps more than their parents would otherwise allow/require (and that’s part of the reason they hate schooling so much - critical thinking and understanding the world around them would reveal inadequacies of the parents).

We’re rushing headlong into reopening fully, even as the pandemic kills thousands a day every day. It’s just a statistic now, and it doesn’t even rate a check in the nightly news.

JFC buddy get on with your life. I get it, you are afraid. It is fine. The people that keep this country moving will continue to do so. But it is getting old.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:01:28am

re: #121 lawhawk

Anti-maskers have won.

States are dropping masking and other mandates around covid because rates appear to be dropping, which guarantees that we’ll see another wave soon enough, especially in the states with lowest vaccination rates.

We’ve never had a proper lockdown in the US (or most of the rest of the world outside of China and a handful of countries). People who claim the US had a lockdown are deluded as to what a lockdown actually is. People were able to come and go and it was individual businesses that shut down because of high risks, workers sickened, or fear that their staff/customers would be sickened.

And we haven’t had anything like a lockdown since the early days of 2020.

Schools are also not remote these days. Nearly all are in-person. But some of the same people complaining about remote learning are also those who think that homeschooling is better than public education, and they’re not worried about the sociological/psychological effects on their kids that they’ve been homeschooling all along. Kids are more resilient than adults want to give credit for, and will also mask and take safety steps more than their parents would otherwise allow/require (and that’s part of the reason they hate schooling so much - critical thinking and understanding the world around them would reveal inadequacies of the parents).

We’re rushing headlong into reopening fully, even as the pandemic kills thousands a day every day. It’s just a statistic now, and it doesn’t even rate a check in the nightly news.

My sympathy mostly lies with the elderly who are at risk from Covid due to their weaker immune systems even when fully vaccinated. Not nearly as much risk as the unvaccinated, by many will succumb every year.

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steve_davis  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:02:26am

re: #107 lawhawk

900,000 dead… and Americans are ready to move on and end the pandemic.

We’re all sick and tired of the pandemic. I hate having to mask up. I hate having to worry that not masking might ultimately kill someone I love b/c they can’t vaccinate. I hate having to worry that not masking or not being sufficiently careful might put me or a loved one in a hospital despite being vaccinated and boosted.

I hate that there’s about a 30% of the population - not evenly distributed around the nation - that refuses to vaccinate because they’ve made it a political decision, which means significant parts of the country will continue to see outbreaks and deaths that quickly overwhelm the local hospital systems (and that affects everyone else, because degraded care also affects ER, resources, and health care workers). So I hate that even where most everyone is doing the right thing, the sociopaths can overwhelm the hospital systems and harm those who have done everything right but suffered from heart attacks, strokes, accidents, etc.

the sociopaths will die off faster than they’re being replaced. 2500 a day and counting. A couple years more of that and Georgia will be solidly blue and Texas will be a toss-up.

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:04:53am
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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:04:59am

re: #124 Shropshire Slasher

JFC buddy get on with your life. I get it, you are afraid. It is fine. The people that keep this country moving will continue to do so. But it is getting old.

The virus doesn’t care.

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BigPapa  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:09:05am

re: #124 Shropshire Slasher

JFC buddy get on with your life. I get it, you are afraid. It is fine. The people that keep this country moving will continue to do so. But it is getting old.

You mistake fear for anger. Anger that a bunch of dumb and fearful people are making this last longer and be much worse than it needs to be. And it didn’t need to be this way.

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:09:20am

re: #124 Shropshire Slasher

JFC buddy get on with your life. I get it, you are afraid. It is fine. The people that keep this country moving will continue to do so. But it is getting old.

What the derp? You’ve lost it. Time to take a long look at your life and work out where you went wrong.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:09:46am

re: #128 Belafon

The virus doesn’t care.

It is ok to be afraid, I get it. But getting a virus, living, suffering and dying is part of the human condition and there is nothing you can do about it. You know what to do, do it. You are right. the virus doesn’t care.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:10:44am

re: #130 Punish Domestic Terrorists

What the derp? You’ve lost it. Time to take a long look at your life and work out where you went wrong.

Who the fuck are you to tell me anything? I live my life, go live yours.

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BigPapa  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:11:34am

re: #131 Shropshire Slasher

It is ok to be afraid, I get it. But getting a virus, living, suffering and dying is part of the human condition and there is nothing you can do about it. You know what to do, do it. You are right. the virus doesn’t care.

You don’t understand how vaccines and masks work. I don’t have the time.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:11:53am

Alright, folks, it’s getting a little heated here. Type carefully.

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:12:42am

re: #132 Shropshire Slasher

Who the fuck are you to tell me anything? I live my life, go live yours.

Your life is clearly off the rails. Is it a drinking problem?

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:14:07am

re: #124 Shropshire Slasher

It’s getting old?

If you have kids who *cant* vaccinate, this isn’t going away.
If you have family who are immune compromised, this isn’t going away.
If you’re a primary caregiver and breadwinner, this isn’t going away, because the consequences of getting covid can be deadly.

And you know what else, if you’re somewhere that has lower vaccination rates, those waves of cases will mean don’t bother going to hospitals for care because those hospitals are overwhelmed.

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JC1  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:14:09am

re: #23 Hecuba’s daughter

I tend not to watch the Olympics, but is this related to the potential issues of artificial snow? It’s times like this when teleskiguy would have professional insight.

I heard that pretty much all elite level skiing competition uses artificial snow, even if there’s plenty of natural snow on the ground.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:17:08am

Mrs. Fish and I watched Nathan Chen’s short program figure skating performance last night. The guy put on a master class, and he knew it; you could tell just from his expressions during and immediately after the performance that he was 100% aware that he crushed it. It was the performance of a lifetime. Even if you’re not super into figure skating, you might watch it just for the sheer enjoyment of seeing a young man get swept up in the exhilaration of a masterpiece performance.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:17:22am

re: #136 lawhawk

It’s getting old?

If you have kids who *cant* vaccinate, this isn’t going away.
If you have family who are immune compromised, this isn’t going away.
If you’re a primary caregiver and breadwinner, this isn’t going away, because the consequences of getting covid can be deadly.

And you know what else, if you’re somewhere that has lower vaccination rates, those waves of cases will mean don’t bother going to hospitals for care because those hospitals are overwhelmed.

Thank you for your response. We all have choices to make.

LOL. I look forward to seeing my comments on the bottom list.

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Rightwingconspirator  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:19:06am

re: #124 Shropshire Slasher

JFC buddy get on with your life. I get it, you are afraid. It is fine. The people that keep this country moving will continue to do so. But it is getting old.

Doing our best to not get infected or spread this thing does not deserve equivalence with mere fear. It’s the adult version of schoolyard taunts and it sucks.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:19:37am

re: #139 Shropshire Slasher

Thank you for your response. We all have choices to make.

LOL. I look forward to seeing my comments on the bottom list.

Bottom isn’t an accomplishment any longer—the Giants of Old have passed, and LGF has become Canadian.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:19:49am

re: #124 Shropshire Slasher

JFC buddy get on with your life. I get it, you are afraid. It is fine. The people that keep this country moving will continue to do so. But it is getting old.

Fuck off.

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Moe Avattar  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:21:09am

Troll Lite is still troll.

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BigPapa  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:21:45am

Troll is troll.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:22:26am

re: #137 JC1

The Chinese skiing venues are located adjacent to the Gobi desert, so while it can get bitterly cold, you’re not going to get a lot of snow. Most of the snow in these venues are artificial necessarily.

But climate change is affecting ski venues around the world, and are seeing a greater reliance on artificial snow everywhere.

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steve_davis  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:22:51am

re: #128 Belafon

The virus doesn’t care.

lockdowns haven’t worked anywhere, even in places where they’ve been tried, except in places like China, where they can just genocide you and your family’s ass if you break the lockdown. the virus continues to circulate. we’re an open society. people move around. you lock down for two weeks and bring the economy grinding to a halt, then somebody drives from l.a. to new york while dealing with the sniffles and the next thing you know you’ve got a dozen different places where folks are suddenly coming down with covid. I understand the issue with masking, and there are still places i’ll mask up. For instance, when I wander into helping hands or salvation army looking for books, i mask up, because the stores have cramped aisles and they sometimes have a fair number of people wandering about in them. In the library? Nah. I just don’t bother. Large open space, few people. Not getting covid in there. Movie theater? Not going. Restaurant? Hell no. Large stadium with people shouting? Fuck no. Not doing that. Grocery store? You’re safe, just wear the mask. Tight store aisles? Wear the mask. Just assess the risk. And of course, your risk is going to be assessed based on your particular circumstances. We’ve known for a long time that evolution is a cruel bitch. And there are, throughout time, examples of animals that died mostly because they were just fucking stupid. That’s the part of “adaptation” that doesn’t get talked about enough. Dodos made nice meals, yes, but part of the reason they died off is because they were fucking stupid. Had wings, couldn’t fly. Bad choice, Dodo. And now, millions of people will die from a disease they don’t need to die from because, given a chance to basically fly to safety through the vaccine, they think flying is some kind of commie plot. I don’t enjoy their deaths, because I have enough empathy as a human being to know that, in spite of my best efforts, it could be me lying in ICU, but I’m also not going to work myself up about it, and just not gonna scold people any longer who wear the goddamned masks under their nose. As a great man once said, can’t fix stupid.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:23:28am

The free-range trolls are depleted, and grain-fed buttocks just don’t have that gamey flavor.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:23:39am

re: #139 Shropshire Slasher

Yes. We all have choices to make, and those you make affect more than just yourself. In a pandemic, someone else’s choices to not mask or not vaccinate can have deadly consequences beyond themselves.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:24:33am
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BigPapa  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:25:36am

iCaNHAzCHOiCeS

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HRH Stanley Sea  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:27:31am

Sigh.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:28:36am

re: #142 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Fuck off.

That is fine, I deserve that, but I do remember you were the only person to say something nice when Rush Limbaugh passed away, and I appreciated that.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:28:37am

We just got back from a funeral and associated life-support activity in Florida. The Confederacy has surrendered again—to a bug.

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steve_davis  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:30:47am

Look, just a word as well about the heated discussion: let’s please stop calling long-time posters trolls. I fully sympathize with folks that are scared about their personal situation related to covid, and who are advocating for an actual lockdown. But let’s please also be conscious that some folks are at about the top of their stress level, and reading about lockdowns, which is something federalism is going to prevent us from accomplishing, just pushes the stress over the top. We can’t even get mask mandates in public schools. We certainly aren’t literally going to shut things down for two weeks while meals on wheels volunteers put food outside our doors for us.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:32:19am

re: #98 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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No Malarkey!  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:32:46am

Report Rubio for spreading Covid misinformation.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:34:53am

re: #156 No Malarkey!

Report Rubio for spreading Covid misinformation.

Florida Boy.

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:38:55am

re: #125 No Malarkey!

My sympathy mostly lies with the elderly who are at risk from Covid due to their weaker immune systems even when fully vaccinated. Not nearly as much risk as the unvaccinated, by many will succumb every year.

Its all a secret diabolical plot to save social security

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Decatur Deb  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:40:35am

re: #158 Dangerman

Its all a secret diabolical plot to save social security

I made such a joke here about 10 yrs ago. Should have followed through with pharma stocks.

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:42:23am

re: #131 Shropshire Slasher

It is ok to be afraid, I get it. But getting a virus, living, suffering and dying is part of the human condition and there is nothing you can do about it. You know what to do, do it. You are right. the virus doesn’t care.

Actually there is something I can do.
I can take reasonable measures to minimize the chances i get it or transmit it

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:45:17am

re: #156 No Malarkey!

Done.

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:48:04am

re: #148 lawhawk

Yes. We all have choices to make, and those you make affect more than just yourself. In a pandemic, someone else’s choices to not mask or not vaccinate can have deadly consequences beyond themselves.

+1

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A Cranky One  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:50:55am

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:53:15am
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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:54:16am

re: #156 No Malarkey!

Report Rubio for spreading Covid misinformation.

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To be fair, Rubio gets his info from desantis

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:54:22am

re: #135 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Your life is clearly off the rails. Is it a drinking problem?

If I didn’t have my sobriety I would have nothing, and to shame me for the choices I have made in my life says more about you than it does about me.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:55:33am

I am approximately 40 miles east of Dallas on I30, essentially stopped on the highway. I think there is a wreck ahead. But traffic is so heavy east bound now that I’ve made it about a half mile in the last 15 minutes.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:56:55am

re: #156 No Malarkey!

Report Rubio for spreading Covid misinformation.

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It’s going to be the new talking point as I reported above.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:57:01am

re: #156 No Malarkey!

Reported as well. All they do is lie

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:59:06am
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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 6:59:57am

re: #166 Shropshire Slasher

If I didn’t have my sobriety I would have nothing, and to shame me for the choices I have made in my life says more about you than it does about me.

I didn’t show up here acting like a lunatic. That’s all you.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:00:16am

An elderly man whom my wife helps care for called her at home this past Saturday to tell her that his nephew had finally died of covid after kidney failure. They are members of an extremely conservative Catholic church and refused all vaccinations. It was a bit personal because the guy who died was about my age; his son was #2 in front of my son on the high school tennis team. They played together every day, but when I told my son he had very little reaction: “J’s parents were there by the end of every practice and match to pick him up and take him away; he didn’t [or couldn’t] hang out at all.” I feel bad for my son’s teammate and his family, but his great uncle—my wife’s client—was the only one to get 3 shots. He can’t avoid his family, though, so we remain concerned.

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ipsos  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:02:38am

I value this place as a rare oasis of interesting conversation among smart people.

We’re all strung out beyond belief right now.

Please, let’s make an extra effort to be as kind as we can be to each other.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:04:40am
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Dave In Austin  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:06:41am

I think my down-ding just put someone out…….

And Rush Limbaugh is still dead….

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:06:45am
The $170,000 purchase of an NFT collection auctioned by Melania Trump was made by the entity that originally put the NFT up for sale, according to blockchain records.

Analyzing the Very Bizarre Sale of Melania Trump’s $170,000 NFT (Vice)

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:07:58am

re: #175 Dave In Austin

I think my down-ding just put someone out…….

Whenever things get heated, I have to carefully monitor my continual updinging. This morning has really put me off my vibe.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:09:06am

re: #116 Dopamine Fish

I do not understand this complete sociopathy on the part of an entire political party. What is their damage that they feel they have to be allowed to be mean to people they don’t like?

In their fucked up version of Christianity, this is what God is telling them they should do.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:10:41am

re: #176 Punish Domestic Terrorists

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sizzzzlerz  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:11:25am

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:11:29am

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gocart mozart  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:12:50am

re: #180 sizzzzlerz

That happened to me yesterday.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:13:31am

re: #179 Patricia Kayden

My surprise, etc.

A lot of these NFT ops have resorted to buying their own shit for extravagant prices to make the market seem hotter than it actually is.

Same idea as buying a shitload of one’s own books to make sure you get on the bestseller list.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:14:23am

re: #178 Eclectic Cyborg

In their fucked up version of Christianity, this is what God is telling them they should do.

Real Christianity is dead simple: Love God, love other people, don’t be an asshole and always try to make yourself a better person. I don’t see why this is so hard for people to actually do.

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darthstar  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:14:29am

re: #121 lawhawk

Vaccinate & Boost and wear a mask in public or die. If anti-maskers want to keep burying their conspiracy minded relatives we can’t force them to stop. Relabel the Self-Storage container services Self-Ventilator, hook an air compressor up and run hoses to every box - 75 cents for three minutes of forced air. Put a vending machine on the out side like they have at car-washes that dispense Vitamin C packets, tubes of Zinc ointment, and Ivermectin wipes.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:14:35am

re: #131 Shropshire Slasher

It is ok to be afraid, I get it. But getting a virus, living, suffering and dying is part of the human condition and there is nothing you can do about it. You know what to do, do it. You are right. the virus doesn’t care.

The virus doesn’t care, but we could take care of it if everyone did their part.

Similarly, what’s the point of airplane safety inspections or lots of other things we do as a society?

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:15:42am

Some tips from yesterday may have improved my performance.

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A Cranky One  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:16:03am

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Decatur Deb  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:17:04am

re: #184 Dopamine Fish

Real Christianity is dead simple: Love God, love other people, don’t be an asshole and always try to make yourself a better person. I don’t see why this is so hard for people to actually do.

It’s hard because the animal doing it is mostly an ape. If you watch a chimpanzee objectively, they are pretty much assholes.

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Jay C  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:17:26am

re: #176 Punish Domestic Terrorists

The $170,000 purchase of an NFT collection auctioned by Melania Trump was made by the entity that originally put the NFT up for sale, according to blockchain records.

Or what we in the art biz, back in the olden days of actual in-person auctions, used to term “bids off the chandelier” (i.e. the auctioneer pulling “bids” out of the air to mask a lack of actual interest).

I guess Melania can hang her white hat on that chandelier…

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darthstar  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:21:01am

re: #179 Patricia Kayden

I like this part:

After the auction, the NFT creator address sent 180,000 [typo - it’s 1,800] SOL back to Address X which converted it into USDC, a stablecoin pegged to the U.S. dollar.

USDC - a ‘stablecoin’ pegged to the US Dollar.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:22:24am

re: #184 Dopamine Fish

Grifters……

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:23:24am

re: #190 Jay C

Or what we in the art biz, back in the olden days of actual in-person auctions, used to term “bids off the chandelier” (i.e. the auctioneer pulling “bids” out of the air to mask a lack of actual interest).

I guess Melania can hang her white hat on that chandelier…

I don’t care….etc

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:23:31am

re: #154 steve_davis

Look, just a word as well about the heated discussion: let’s please stop calling long-time posters trolls. I fully sympathize with folks that are scared about their personal situation related to covid, and who are advocating for an actual lockdown. But let’s please also be conscious that some folks are at about the top of their stress level, and reading about lockdowns, which is something federalism is going to prevent us from accomplishing, just pushes the stress over the top. We can’t even get mask mandates in public schools. We certainly aren’t literally going to shut things down for two weeks while meals on wheels volunteers put food outside our doors for us.

In fact, the SF bay area six counties agreed to a “shelter at home” rule that went into effect on 3/16/2020 (the rest of the state followed almost immediately). We had a couple of setbacks, once when we tried to open too soon and once for the 2020 holiday season, but once the vaccine came online, we were able to reopen gradually, and our illness and death rates were about half the national average overall. People were (and are) required to mask indoors in public places and to show proof of vaccination if they wanted to dine indoors. Large public venues (theatres, concert halls and all that) also required proof of vaccination.

Then came omicron. The same rules remained in place, some of us (including me, to the extent I’d ever done it) gave up indoor dining, and social distance quietly increased, having previously dropped to about one meter.

Infection levels jumped up again, but hospitalizations and deaths (almost) didn’t because we have a really high vaccination rate as well (Berkeley has had either one or two additional deaths since the surge).

Even with omicron, life remained almost what it was before the pandemic. Public masking is a social norm (yes, including in public schools), we show proof of vaccination where required and live pretty normal lives.

So don’t tell me it can’t be done — wearing a mask is a minor inconvenience and it’s not a bigger deal than changing the sweats for something fit to be seen in public when you leave the house.

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darthstar  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:25:07am

re: #191 darthstar

I like this part:

USDC - a ‘stablecoin’ pegged to the US Dollar.

I always wondered how people got cash for crypto. I’m guessing services like Circle that manage USDC transactions get a fee for whatever crypto they convert, then sell that crypto on the next bump.

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darthstar  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:27:28am

Okay, this is the last I’ll pull from the Vice article, but it does explain money laundering NFT sales pretty well.

If we visit solscan.io (a Solana Blockchain Explorer) we see Melania Trump’s Head of State Collection, 2022 NFT was created on 01/11/2022 by 39ui using Metaplex.

01/23/2022 - 39ui sends 473,657.64 USDC to 3CTu.

01/25/2022 - 3CTu swaps 166,900 USDC for 1,816.08 SOL using Raydium (Solana decentralized exchange). A few minutes later 3CTu sends 1,799.5 SOL to 497Z.

01/26/2022 - 497Z makes a bid on the NFT for 1,800 SOL and wins the auction.

Later that day the NFT creator 39ui claims the 1,800 SOL and sends it back to 3CTu.

01/29/2022 - 3CTu swaps 1,800 SOL for 168,313.24 USDC using Raydium.

As of 02/08/2022 all of the USDC sits in 3CTu’s account and the NFT in 497Z’s account.

At about 2200 bucks a SOL that 17 SOL cut on 1/25 is a pretty good commission.

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:31:16am

re: #194 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

So don’t tell me it can’t be done — wearing a mask is a minor inconvenience and it’s not a bigger deal than changing the sweats for something fit to be seen in public when you leave the house

Insert obligatory Wal-Mart shopper joke

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No Malarkey!  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:32:08am

Tale of the Omicron surge from Facebook. A HS classmate gets together with whole family on December 24; 5 kids, 11 adults all together for photo, all unmasked. She gets Covid immediately, but survives. Her BiL died of Covid today. She is deeply religious, so I’m betting almost the whole family was unvaccinated.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:32:20am

I’m baking challah today.

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:33:24am

re: #196 darthstar

I always wondered how people got cash for crypto. I’m guessing services like Circle that manage USDC transactions get a fee for whatever crypto they convert, then sell that crypto on the next bump.

I don’t know anything about Circle, but Coinbase will convert cryptocurrencies to actual money. Of course they charge a fee. I don’t remember what % it was.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:35:32am

re: #198 Dangerman

Insert obligatory Wal-Mart shopper joke

Sorry, the nearest Walmart is three towns away, and I didn’t think of it. But around here, even if you keep the sweats, you’d better not forget the mask.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:38:20am

re: #197 darthstar

Okay, this is the last I’ll pull from the Vice article, but it does explain money laundering NFT sales pretty well.

At about 2200 bucks a SOL that 17 SOL cut on 1/25 is a pretty good commission.

Reading Bitcoin Reddit gives a window into the language, and a slice of the thinking, of the low-end BC culture. A few days ago someone posted a great term for overcoming natural panic the FUD/FOMO cycle generates: “Staring down the monkey”.

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:39:06am

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:44:33am

Book of Boba Fett:

Click to Reveal

Holy shit that was awesome.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:47:23am

re: #186 Belafon

The virus doesn’t care, but we could take care of it if everyone did their part.

Similarly, what’s the point of airplane safety inspections or lots of other things we do as a society?

Out of all due respect, I personally believe that we could have a significant impact on a virus this infectious is a common misconception.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:47:37am
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Patricia Kayden  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:49:51am

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:50:29am

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

So we’ve moved on from an imaginary “Real America” to an imaginary “Real World”?

What’s next, an imaginary “Real Universe”?

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No Malarkey!  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:50:33am

re: #206 Shropshire Slasher

Out of all due respect, I personally believe that we could have a significant impact on a virus this infectious is a common misconception.

And yet we somehow eradicated the even more infectious measles in the United States, before the antivaxxer cult left enough people unprotected that outbreaks could occur again.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:51:43am

re: #206 Shropshire Slasher

Out of all due respect, I personally believe that we could have a significant impact on a virus this infectious is a common misconception.

The vastly lower hospitalization / death rates of fully vaccinated people would seem to prove you wrong.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:53:05am

re: #211 Eclectic Cyborg

The vastly lower hospitalization / death rates of fully vaccinated people would seem to prove you wrong.

What study was that?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:57:07am

re: #212 Shropshire Slasher

What study was that?

Multiple studies have shown substantially lower rates of death / hospitalizations among vaccinated people. I’m at work and do not have time to dig one up, but they are not hard to find.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 7:59:28am

I remember when Texas was over the virus in June of 2020. Abbott wouldn’t event recommend masks. And then July hit, and by the beginning of August, he was forced to impose a mandate, which only about 70% of the population followed, but it was still enough to drive cases down.

The problem, Shropshire, is that people aren’t taking basic precautions. I go to movies. I go to the grocery store. I occasionally eat at a restaurant, though on off hours or places that are never terribly busy. But I wear my mask everywhere, except when I’m eating. And I’m vaccinated and boosted. If everyone would just do those things, we wouldn’t have to fight about lockdowns because we wouldn’t see the spikes we keep seeing, all caused by the unvaccinated because they are the same people that won’t take precautions.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:00:28am

jeebus

what on earth is the deal with Florida political lunatics?

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:00:32am

re: #206 Shropshire Slasher

Out of all due respect, I personally believe that we could have a significant impact on a virus this infectious is a common misconception.

You might go look up the history of smallpox, polio, the measles, and tuberculosis.

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:03:34am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:03:48am

re: #212 Shropshire Slasher

What study was that?

Stop being such a troll. You’ve seen them with your own eyes.

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:05:39am
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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:05:55am

re: #219 GlutenFreeJesus

Stop being such a troll. You’ve seen them with your own eyes.

They’re obviously trolling. I wonder if the account was hacked, or if they just came unglued.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:07:07am

re: #212 Shropshire Slasher

What study was that?

The ones where nurses count the people at their hospitals.

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gwangung  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:09:40am

re: #131 Shropshire Slasher

It is ok to be afraid, I get it. But getting a virus, living, suffering and dying is part of the human condition and there is nothing you can do about it. You know what to do, do it. You are right. the virus doesn’t care.

Don’t be fucking stupid. There’s PLENTY you can do, but it’s YOU who doesn’t care. And your lack of care will harm others.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:09:48am

re: #222 Belafon

The ones where nurses count the people at their hospitals.

I never thought about it in that way, how did they get it?

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:10:24am

re: #214 Belafon

I remember when Texas was over the virus in June of 2020. Abbott wouldn’t event recommend masks. And then July hit, and by the beginning of August, he was forced to impose a mandate, which only about 70% of the population followed, but it was still enough to drive cases down.

The problem, Shropshire, is that people aren’t taking basic precautions. I go to movies. I go to the grocery store. I occasionally eat at a restaurant, though on off hours or places that are never terribly busy. But I wear my mask everywhere, except when I’m eating. And I’m vaccinated and boosted. If everyone would just do those things, we wouldn’t have to fight about lockdowns because we wouldn’t see the spikes we keep seeing, all caused by the unvaccinated because they are the same people that won’t take precautions.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:12:22am

re: #212 Shropshire Slasher

What study was that?

Here is one for deaths:

Here is one for hospitalizations:

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:14:30am

re: #219 GlutenFreeJesus

Stop being such a troll. You’ve seen them with your own eyes.

took 4 seconds to google
“death rate vax vs nonvax in the US”

this is a pdf
there’s a pretty graphic graph on page 6

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sagehen  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:15:27am

re: #206 Shropshire Slasher

Out of all due respect, I personally believe that we could have a significant impact on a virus this infectious is a common misconception.

Smallpox.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:15:33am

re: #224 Shropshire Slasher

I never thought about it in that way, how did they get it?

We once trolled a guy who was getting on our nerves at Balloon Juice by accusing him of being one of DougJ’s sock puppets. You also sound like how we used to talk to ELIZA when I was in college. “Why do you want to ask about how we feel, ELIZA?”

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:16:35am

re: #204 Dangerman

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Bathroom bills have only one purpose. To stigmatize and generate fear of Trans-Gendered women, forcing us back into the closet, or worse, getting us beaten and killed for not “conforming”. That’s it.

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gwangung  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:17:03am

re: #213 Eclectic Cyborg

For example,

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:19:01am

re: #227 Dangerman

took 4 seconds to google
“death rate vax vs nonvax in the US”

this is a pdf
there’s a pretty graphic graph on page 6

here it is

might even be the same data from the CDC report referred to in 226

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:20:01am

He’s just laughing at us from his mom’s basement at this point.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:20:11am
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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:21:35am

re: #234 No Malarkey!

[Embedded content]

‘acknowledge’ what you like (2 + 2 = 22, from yesterday)

that doesn’t make it true.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:22:52am

re: #235 Dangerman

‘acknowledge’ what you like (2 + 2 = 22, from yesterday)

that doesn’t make it true.

“Just because Europe is doing it” seems like a weird justification from the America First Party.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:23:05am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

Someone needs to show up undercover, and tell them that they haven’t been vaccinated, and see how far they get.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:29:44am
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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:30:08am

I wonder what finally moved her on this obvious longstanding corruption in Congress.

Nancy Pelosi Finally Pushing Stock-Trading Ban for Lawmakers (The Daily Beast)

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No Malarkey!  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:30:39am

re: #237 Belafon

Someone needs to show up undercover, and tell them that they haven’t been vaccinated, and see how far they get.

Speaking of which, during his confirmation hearing the Florida Surgeon General refused to say whether or not he was vaccinated, and disparaged vaccines as becoming less effective.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:30:49am

To alter a meme, and make it sound more biblical:

“For God so loved America that, after Republicans elected Trump as their idol, He sent a virus to kill them off.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:31:17am

sigh…

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:31:33am

re: #236 Dopamine Fish

“Just because Europe is doing it” seems like a weird justification from the America First Party.

I don’t believe that Europe is in fact “doing that”.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:31:44am

re: #240 No Malarkey!

Speaking of which, during his confirmation hearing the Florida Surgeon General refused to say whether or not he was vaccinated, and disparaged vaccines as becoming less effective.

That’s how you know he’s fully vaxxed.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:33:16am

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

sigh…

Official cause of death while dying “with Covid”?: Medicare! End Medicare to save our seniors lives!

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:33:46am

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A Cranky One  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:34:11am

re: #233 Belafon

He’s just laughing at us from his mom’s basement at this point.

How sad must his life be that being a poo flinging asshole is his only validation.

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:35:34am

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:36:21am

re: #246 Patricia Kayden

Massie doesn’t.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:36:23am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:37:14am

People like Thomas Massie are why we need competency tests for Congresspeople.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:37:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:39:14am

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

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danarchy  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:40:27am

re: #210 No Malarkey!

And yet we somehow eradicated the even more infectious measles in the United States, before the antivaxxer cult left enough people unprotected that outbreaks could occur again.

To be fair measles has no known nonhuman resevoir, whereas Covid appears to be able to infect most mammals. Eradicating Covid would be like eradicating the flu…aint gonna happen.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:41:04am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:42:58am

re: #246 Patricia Kayden

[Embedded content]

——->>>> Mother’s milk leads to heroin!!! <<<———-

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:43:20am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:44:08am

re: #251 Eclectic Cyborg

People like Thomas Massie are why we need competency tests for Congresspeople voters.

// (1/2, but maybe not)

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:48:41am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

[Embedded content]

Congressman Thomas Massie Endorsed By Rep. Jim Jordan, Rep. Matt Gaetz, Rep. Lauren Boebert, and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene

because nobody else would

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:49:54am

re: #255 GlutenFreeJesus

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if there was a vaccine for stupid, R’s wouldnt take it

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:50:10am

re: #254 danarchy

To be fair measles has no known nonhuman resevoir, whereas Covid appears to be able to infect most mammals. Eradicating Covid would be like eradicating the flu…aint gonna happen.

Our immune system, and I’m assuming that of other animals, seems to be pretty good at blocking reinfection of a single strain. But we humans are doing a bang up job of creating conditions for mutations and then carrying them to other parts of the world. The other animals aren’t doing that. It would pass through and be done if it weren’t for us.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:51:36am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s the treasonweasel trot.

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gwangung  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:52:56am

re: #261 Belafon

Are immune system, and I’m assuming that of other animals, seems to be pretty good at blocking reinfection of a single strain. But we humans are doing a bang up job of creating conditions for mutations and then carrying them to other parts of the world. The other animals aren’t doing that. It would pass through and be done if it weren’t for us.

Hm, actually, for coronaviruses in general, it seems like acquired immunity (whether it’s through infection or through vaccines) wears off. So there’s that added factor.

(Most people don’t seem to know this and don’t seem to know you can catch covid multiple times).

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:53:35am

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, 50+ percent of those dying from covid are white. Maybe we should isolate whites until we figure out what’s going on.

//////////////////////////////

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:53:52am

re: #184 Dopamine Fish

Real Christianity is dead simple: Love God, love other people, don’t be an asshole and always try to make yourself a better person. I don’t see why this is so hard for people to actually do.

Because the emotional reward for being a good, loving person isn’t nearly as intense as the opposite.

Love and kindness makes a person feel good. Hate and cruelty make a person high as fuck.

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danarchy  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:54:23am

re: #261 Belafon

Are immune system, and I’m assuming that of other animals, seems to be pretty good at blocking reinfection of a single strain. But we humans are doing a bang up job of creating conditions for mutations and then carrying them to other parts of the world. The other animals aren’t doing that. It would pass through and be done if it weren’t for us.

I think that may be wishful thinking. It appears immunity, natural or otherwise has a limited time frame even in a single strain.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:54:25am
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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:54:28am

re: #260 Dangerman

if there was a vaccine for stupid, R’s wouldnt take it

They’d just be told they’re too late, since they’re already infected. They wouldn’t give it to their kids to head off the stupid, because unlike normal people, they don’t want their kids to be smarter and more successful than they are.

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A Cranky One  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:54:57am

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:55:33am

re: #265 Romantic Heretic

Because the emotional reward for being a good, loving person isn’t nearly as intense as the opposite.

Love and kindness makes a person feel good. Hate and cruelty make a person high as fuck.

hate takes less effort

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:57:00am

re: #206 Shropshire Slasher

Out of all due respect, I personally believe that we could have a significant impact on a virus this infectious is a common misconception.

And I remind you that in the entire omicron surge so far, infections increased as much as twentyfold at the peak, to hundreds of new cases every day (in Berkeley, a town of 120,000), and we had one additional death. Or two, I can’t remember exactly when that first additional death happened. Hospitals are not overwhelmed.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 8:59:28am

re: #263 gwangung

Hm, actually, for coronaviruses in general, it seems like acquired immunity (whether it’s through infection or through vaccines) wears off. So there’s that added factor.

(Most people don’t seem to know this and don’t seem to know you can catch covid multiple times).

I agree, but, given how fast the versions have spread through an area, would it be sticking around if we weren’t helping it spread?

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sagehen  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:00:23am

re: #239 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I wonder what finally moved her on this obvious longstanding corruption in Congress.

Nancy Pelosi Finally Pushing Stock-Trading Ban for Lawmakers (The Daily Beast)

Overwhelming public support for the measure, plus overwhelming support from within her caucus.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:00:56am

re: #257 Punish Domestic Terrorists

And the other is the DC pipe bomber. Not ///

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:01:01am

re: #270 Dangerman

hate takes less effort

also hate can’t fail

you can try to be a good person and come up short, or at least feel you did

it’s hard to feel you havent hated correctly

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:01:32am

re: #214 Belafon

I remember when Texas was over the virus in June of 2020. Abbott wouldn’t event recommend masks. And then July hit, and by the beginning of August, he was forced to impose a mandate, which only about 70% of the population followed, but it was still enough to drive cases down.

The problem, Shropshire, is that people aren’t taking basic precautions. I go to movies. I go to the grocery store. I occasionally eat at a restaurant, though on off hours or places that are never terribly busy. But I wear my mask everywhere, except when I’m eating. And I’m vaccinated and boosted. If everyone would just do those things, we wouldn’t have to fight about lockdowns because we wouldn’t see the spikes we keep seeing, all caused by the unvaccinated because they are the same people that won’t take precautions.

We might still see more spikes (omicron gave us that twentyfold increase I mentioned, with over-12 vaccination level at 97.5%), but hospitalizations and deaths wouldn’t spike.

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:02:26am

re: #274 GlutenFreeJesus

And the other is the DC pipe bomber. Not ///

I ran out of space for Marge the mail-slot troll.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:03:25am

Seems like everyone got their legal degrees at Trump U.

The 1A doesn’t protect you from the private consequences of making a public statement that explicitly shows you being racist. It simply means that government can’t regulate that conduct. The marketplace is doing that - and that includes boycotts, ending business relationships, or cancelling shows.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:06:11am

And while we can make some comparisons to the flu, we know it’s not the same type of virus. We’ve managed to control and eradicate other SARS viruses, though not all (talking about some versions of the cold).

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:07:29am

For some reason I don’t see anything wrong with this happening.

Elon Musk’s SpaceX says a geomagnetic storm wiped out 40 of the 49 Starlink satellites it launched into orbit last week.

Up to 40 of the satellites will reenter the Earth’s atmosphere and burn up, with some already having done so, Musk’s firm said.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:09:26am

re: #280 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

For some reason I don’t see anything wrong with this happening.

Elon Musk’s SpaceX says a geomagnetic storm wiped out 40 of the 49 Starlink satellites it launched into orbit last week.

Up to 40 of the satellites will reenter the Earth’s atmosphere and burn up, with some already having done so, Musk’s firm said.

It’s nice having easily available internet service so that we don’t have to hope it’s coming from a satellite swinging overhead, and that we don’t have government interference blocking content from the service.

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danarchy  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:10:16am

re: #280 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

For some reason I don’t see anything wrong with this happening.

Elon Musk’s SpaceX says a geomagnetic storm wiped out 40 of the 49 Starlink satellites it launched into orbit last week.

Up to 40 of the satellites will reenter the Earth’s atmosphere and burn up, with some already having done so, Musk’s firm said.

Frankly, this sucks. Whether you like like Musk or not it is hard to argue that bringing high speed internet to every corner of the planet is not a good thing. The trade offs for astronomy are well worth it IMO, it causes challenges but nothing that software can not correct for relatively easily.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:10:50am

But, yes, it might be wishful thinking. But I’m also not bothered by masks or vaccines, so I think we could still be pretty effective in controlling it if people would just do a few things.

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darthstar  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:11:23am

re: #215 wrenchwench

Wordle 235 4/6

⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
🟦🟦⬜⬜⬜
⬜⬜⬜🟧🟧
🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧

Click to Reveal

Did you use ROATE?

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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:14:16am

What we as individuals do can have a great influence on the spread of covid with respect to out catching it. Here are measures that governments can take which work, and what will not work.

1. Vaccine mandates, which include a booster by the way. I understand the resistance with respect to health decisions, but the supreme court has decided this long ago - the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. In this case the few who have unfounded fears which are the result of their ignorance. The economic impact is HUGE and POSITIVE.

2. Mandate masking in large indoor gatherings when poor ventilation will result in you being exposed to virus droplets from any of a 100 people in the vicinity. Of course stupid people can’t tell what is large, or well ventilated, so the requirement has to be mask indoors. It makes sense to relax this when case incidence is low. A policy should be announced that masks are required when new infections per 100,000 is above a certain number, and acceleration is above a certain number. The economic cost of masking is practically ZERO. The economic impact of high infection rates on large indoor events is large and NEGATIVE. The economic impact of mask mandates on large indoor events is moderate and NEGATIVE.

3. Encourage outdoor dining. A mandate would not work.

4. Lockdowns will not work if the ultimate goal is eradication. The economic impact (anything that relies on freedom of people movement) is HUGE and NEGATIVE. It requires government intervention like we saw in 2020 and continuing in 2021.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:15:53am

re: #254 danarchy

To be fair measles has no known nonhuman resevoir, whereas Covid appears to be able to infect most mammals. Eradicating Covid would be like eradicating the flu…aint gonna happen.

There is as of now no evidence that animals can transmit covid to humans (except, it seems, bats — and even that is rare). But there are so many coronaviruses, all of them mutating rapidly, that it amounts to the same thing).

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:17:19am

re: #258 Dangerman

// (1/2, but maybe not)

Agreed, but the South ruined that, as they did much else.

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IngisKahn  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:20:43am

So, I finally peeked at the Wordle source and was disappointed to find that of the 16,000 or so possible 5 letter words, only 12000 are accepted as answers and only 2000 of those can ever be answers. Rerunning my statistics shows that RAISE is the best starting word. It divides the answers into the greatest number of possible clues and has the smallest max size of those divisions.

Here’s the top 24 starting words:
URAEI Count: 89 Max10: 187,152,150,145,114,93,91,83,75,69 Mean: 26.0
AUREI Count: 94 Max10: 208,187,145,144,114,91,88,84,72,70 Mean: 24.6
RAILE Count: 128 Max10: 173,119,112,104,98,91,85,76,66,65 Mean: 18.1
RAISE Count: 131 Max10: 168,121,107,103,102,92,91,80,78,69 Mean: 17.7
SOARE Count: 127 Max10: 183,138,120,117,87,79,68,63,61,59 Mean: 18.2
ROATE Count: 126 Max10: 195,112,106,102,83,71,71,66,63,63 Mean: 18.4
ARISE Count: 122 Max10: 168,154,121,107,100,80,79,64,62,61 Mean: 19.0
SERAI Count: 110 Max10: 168,156,147,121,104,98,81,80,77,65 Mean: 21.0
AESIR Count: 116 Max10: 168,154,121,118,99,86,85,81,75,74 Mean: 20.0
ARIEL Count: 125 Max10: 173,145,120,98,91,85,80,74,73,70 Mean: 18.5
REALO Count: 112 Max10: 176,133,127,124,121,88,77,70,69,66 Mean: 20.7
AROSE Count: 120 Max10: 183,148,120,104,103,79,79,78,67,60 Mean: 19.3
ORATE Count: 127 Max10: 195,132,112,106,98,83,71,63,56,55 Mean: 18.2
IRATE Count: 123 Max10: 194,130,118,106,92,80,64,64,61,60 Mean: 18.8
ALOES Count: 108 Max10: 174,170,161,125,106,98,92,82,62,61 Mean: 21.4
REAIS Count: 114 Max10: 168,150,121,118,108,103,90,89,74,67 Mean: 20.3
AYRIE Count: 98 Max10: 171,162,136,117,112,96,95,91,86,84 Mean: 23.6
REOIL Count: 109 Max10: 186,150,145,118,114,103,93,88,71,70 Mean: 21.2
TOILE Count: 123 Max10: 204,172,120,107,88,86,85,84,81,78 Mean: 18.8
RAINE Count: 129 Max10: 195,121,119,112,110,96,86,78,73,65 Mean: 17.9
AEROS Count: 109 Max10: 183,148,134,124,114,90,88,87,80,65 Mean: 21.2
ORIEL Count: 110 Max10: 186,172,145,108,103,102,85,84,75,75 Mean: 21.0
STOAE Count: 110 Max10: 177,176,164,103,92,84,77,76,73,71 Mean: 21.0
COATE Count: 123 Max10: 192,190,130,101,96,93,82,79,76,73 Mean: 18.8

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gocart mozart  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:21:28am
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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:21:58am

re: #286 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

There is as of now no evidence that animals can transmit covid to humans (except, it seems, bats — and even that is rare). But there are so many coronaviruses, all of them mutating rapidly, that it amounts to the same thing).

Maybe it’s the bats in their belfries that makes Conservatives so vulnerable, rather than being too stupid to vaccinate.
/

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darthstar  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:27:17am

re: #288 IngisKahn

That’s a little bit like looking at the ‘special effects’ used to put Jeannie in her bottle…it was just amazing TV magic when I was a kid…even though I work in software development I don’t always care to know how the sausage is made.

Click to Reveal
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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:28:39am

TIL measles actually infects primates, not just the human sort.

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IngisKahn  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:30:18am

re: #291 darthstar

Ya, I wouldn’t have taken that drastic measure, but SOMETHING WAS WRONG ON THE INTERNET. ROATE ain’t the best starting word.

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darthstar  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:31:30am

28mph winds in my neighborhood right now…should die down in a few hours, but every garbage can on the street has been blown over (pickup day). Supposed to get to 68 here. I wore shorts walking the boys…sun is warm. Feels good.

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darthstar  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:32:16am

re: #293 IngisKahn

Ya, I wouldn’t have taken that drastic measure, but SOMETHING WAS WRONG ON THE INTERNET. ROATE ain’t the best starting word.

ORATE is on the list though. Close enough.

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Captain Ron  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:33:31am
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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:33:57am

re: #294 darthstar

28mph winds in my neighborhood right now…should die down in a few hours, but every garbage can on the street has been blown over (pickup day). Supposed to get to 68 here. I wore shorts walking the boys…sun is warm. Feels good.

The kind of day when many things can be kites.
I could really use a week or two somewhere warm and sunny right now.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:35:15am

re: #174 Patricia Kayden

Earlier, Leader McCarthy did answer my question in the hallway: do you believe there was legitimate political discourse on Jan 6

“Everyone knows there was. Anyone who broke inside,” he said.

His office later clarified he intended to say: Anyone who broke inside was not.

I do accept that his comment was a misstatement. This happens all the time when people are speaking extemporaneously without a prepared script, and happens occasionally even when reading from a teleprompter. However, his statement was a total lie since everything said and promoted by the speakers that day was a lie designed to inflame the audience and destroy our democracy. It was legitimate discourse the same way as KKK and Nazi and Tucker (am repeating myself) fulminations are “legitimate political discourse”.

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The Squire of Logos  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:35:54am

re: #296 Dread Pirate Ron

I knew my world became weird when I started agreeing with Jennifer Rubin.

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sagehen  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:36:16am

re: #289 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

“Our” country?

Hasn’t he been living in the Philippines since, like, the Bush administration?

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Captain Ron  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:36:37am

The Weather Channel is turning Japanese.

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A Cranky One  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:36:44am

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The Squire of Logos  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:37:13am

re: #301 Dread Pirate Ron

re: #301 Dread Pirate Ron

The Weather Channel is turning Japanese.

[Embedded content]

I really think so.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:37:31am

re: #298 Hecuba’s daughter

I do accept that his comment was a misstatement. This happens all the time when people are speaking extemporaneously without a prepared script, and happens occasionally even when reading from a teleprompter. However, his statement was a total lie since everything said and promoted by the speakers that day was a lie designed to inflame the audience and destroy our democracy. It was legitimate discourse the same way as KKK and Nazi and Tucker (am repeating myself) fulminations are “legitimate political discourse”.

Biden, or Psaki, should go to a podium and say “I understand what Senator McConnell was saying even though he didn’t use the right words. Sometimes we all do that, right, Senator?”

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:38:03am

re: #281 Belafon

re: #282 danarchy

I agree that the idea of a internet satellite network that will provide service to all corners of the world is good. It’s the implementation of the current system that sucks. Not many in the 3rd world can afford $500.00 for a basic dish and $99.00 a month subscription fee. And the idea that the cost will come down as more people subscribe is vaporware as far as I’m concerned. Satellite phones were supposed to do that as well and it never materialized. The phones are still expensive and the service plans are as well.

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sagehen  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:39:52am

re: #299 The Squire of Logos

I knew my world became weird when I started agreeing with Jennifer Rubin.

You didn’t change, she did. Along with Joe Walsh, Bill Kristol, Rick Wilson….

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:42:20am

re: #306 sagehen

You didn’t change, she did. Along with Joe Walsh, Bill Kristol, Rick Wilson….

Krystol has said some stupid things lately, so we might be getting back to normal.

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Mattand  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:43:12am

Just about done listening to the Bob Cesca show that’s the subject of the current post.

I’m glad Bob’s finally had it with Bill Maher, but part of me is like “Gee, Bob, you actively defended Maher’s Islamophobia and let his antivax shit slide, but you’re finally drawing a line at Maher’s anyone-could-have-seen-this-coming hot take on fighting the worst pandemic to hit the US in over a century?”

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Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:44:10am

re: #298 Hecuba’s daughter

I do accept that his comment was a misstatement. This happens all the time when people are speaking extemporaneously without a prepared script, and happens occasionally even when reading from a teleprompter. However, his statement was a total lie since everything said and promoted by the speakers that day was a lie designed to inflame the audience and destroy our democracy. It was legitimate discourse the same way as KKK and Nazi and Tucker (am repeating myself) fulminations are “legitimate political discourse”.

you could play that clip in its entirety and say it has not been altered.
(though not mentioning the correction later would be an omission)

meanwhile fox twists itself in knots to deceptively edit clips of D’s to make it seem like they said something heinous they never actually said at all

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sagehen  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:48:30am

Youtube Video

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:49:40am

She’s 15, so she’s not being held responsible for failing the test, but Russia loses a gold medal over this, and we get it because a kid was on medication.

Teen Skating Sensation Named at Center of Russian Doping Fight at Beijing Olympics (The Daily Beast)

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Mattand  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:52:38am

re: #310 sagehen

I have a feeling if I watch that video, I’m going to be one of the subjects.

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sizzzzlerz  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:54:06am

re: #220 Dangerman

Thanks go out to Ahmed “One-arm” Sari for the removal of the tire.

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Jay C  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:54:08am

re: #302 A Cranky One

Yes, quite clever: but just a hint: you should put crossword (or Wordle) stuff behind spoiler tags for those of us who haven’t done the puzzles…

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:58:30am

re: #314 Jay C

Yes, quite clever: but just a hint: you should put crossword (or Wordle) stuff behind spoiler tags for those of us who haven’t done the puzzles…

I hope you’re not talking about the wordle color grids meant to be shared. If a person can solve based on that, they should do the puzzle in a few seconds first thing in the morning.

316
Eventual Carrion  Feb 9, 2022 • 9:58:33am

re: #151 HRH Stanley Sea

Sigh.

Wordle 235 4/6

⬜🟨⬜⬜⬜
🟨🟨⬜⬜🟩
⬜🟩🟩🟩🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Thought I had it on the 3rd word for sure. Turns out I didn’t.

Wordle 235 4/6

⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
⬜🟨🟨⬜⬜
🟨🟨🟨⬜🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

317
IngisKahn  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:03:04am

re: #315 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Oh don’t say that, now I’ll have to write an app that does that.

318
Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:03:28am

re: #316 Eventual Carrion

Thought I had it on the 3rd word for sure. Turns out I didn’t.

Wordle 235 4/6

⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
⬜🟨🟨⬜⬜
🟨🟨🟨⬜🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

You got enough letters on 3 to get the word on 4. That’s not bad.
Anything less than 5 and I’m very happy with my results.

319
Jay C  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:04:06am

re: #315 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I hope you’re not talking about the wordle color grids meant to be shared. If a person can solve based on that, they should do the puzzle in a few seconds first thing in the morning.

No: just stuff with actual answers.
Agree about the Wordle grids: if you can get the answer just by looking at those color squares, you should really move on to something harder (or go to work for the NSA…..)

320
Romantic Heretic  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:05:45am

re: #270 Dangerman

hate takes less effort

Also true.

321
Romantic Heretic  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:08:07am

re: #275 Dangerman

also hate can’t fail

you can try to be a good person and come up short, or at least feel you did

it’s hard to feel you havent hated correctly

That is a facet of human behaviour I hadn’t considered before.

Thanks for the food for thought.

322
sagehen  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:13:55am
323
Captain Ron  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:17:35am
324
Grunthos the Flatulent  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:19:40am

Wordle on the Streetle is, it’s down under already.

Wordle 236 3/6*

⬛🟩⬛🟨🟨
🟨🟩⬛⬛🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

And my sister got it in two.

325
Captain Ron  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:23:48am
326
lawhawk  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:24:29am

re: #323 Dread Pirate Ron

But then they have the GOP wanting to police bathrooms to check to see that the user has the appropriate external genitals. They’re govt so small, they’re all up in the naughty bits.

327
sagehen  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:31:08am

re: #324 Grunthos the Flatulent

Wordle on the Streetle is, it’s down under already.

And my sister got it in two.

Click to Reveal

with a hint like that, it has to be

KOALA

amirite?

328
Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:32:51am

re: #323 Dread Pirate Ron

And the bills are designed to let these people do the psychological torture out in the open.

329
Belafon  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:35:12am

It’s not American history, or gender identity the kids need protection from. It’s people who tell them that their own thoughts about who they are are wrong that kids need protection from.

330
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:39:19am
331
Eventual Carrion  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:39:24am

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

sigh…

100% of people who have dies were born. Maybe we need to stop births.

332
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:40:23am
333
BlueSpotinAL  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:41:55am

re: #324 Grunthos the Flatulent

Wordle on the Streetle is, it’s down under already.

And my sister got it in two.

I always thought Bird was the Word.

334
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:45:22am

Hal Rogers and Andy Barr are both contenders.

335
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:49:37am

Hudson, Ohio

336
Dopamine Fish  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:51:20am

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hudson, Ohio

Whenever I talk to my friends or colleagues about ice fishing, it’s always beer and bro time. They don’t mention any ice bunnies.

/Gotta keep warm out there somehow
//Isn’t that what the alcohol is for?
///Prostitution on a frozen lake does NOT sound like a good time, tbh

337
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:52:39am

heh

338
Barefoot Grin  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:52:47am

re: #301 Dread Pirate Ron

The Weather Channel is turning Japanese.

[Embedded content]

Don’t mean to be a stinker, but I’m pretty sure that’s Taiwan.

339
ipsos  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:54:31am

You didn’t need a new online addiction.

I didn’t need a new online addiction.

Sorry in advance for the hours you’re about to lose playing this.

wikitrivia.tomjwatson.com

340
A Mom Anon  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:55:10am

I do not even understand where the idea that Masks Don’t Work comes from.

If they didn’t work then why does my dentist and staff wear them? Why does every doctor my husband and I see wear them? Not just at office visits, but during procedures and surgeries. Same with nurses and other medical professionals. Would you want a surgeon not masked and wearing gloves during surgery?

This crap is why we are here. Had the right thing been done early on we might be nowhere near a million deaths like we are now.

Our little family is triple vaxxed. My husband just had a heart attack along with congestive heart failure a couple of months ago. His recovery is moving along, slowly, but he will never be fully recovered. His cardiologist and electro cardiologist have both bluntly stated that if he does get covid it could kill him. Even with the vaccines and precautions. So should we just say fuck it and give up? No. The ONLY reason this shit is mutating and killing so many is a complete idiotic resistance to every fucking thing needed to stop a pandemic.

And this is because of a complete lack of community and sense of any sort of giving a shit about anyone outside of yourself. Trump made it worse, but it started being ramped up hard core a couple of weeks after 9/11. And it was not democrats who systematically worked on that angle either. That’s what I am sick of, way more than wearing a mask or getting vaccines or keeping my distance from jerks. Again, this rugged individualism shit is killing us as a country.

341
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:55:25am
342
A Cranky One  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:56:01am

re: #333 BlueSpotinAL

I always thought Bird was the Word.

Get with the times.

Now birb is the wrd.

343
Dopamine Fish  Feb 9, 2022 • 10:56:33am

re: #340 A Mom Anon

Masks Don’t Work because of individualized cherry-picked studies showing that droplets of a certain size aren’t blocked as effectively by cloth masks, therefore everything you know is a lie and you should just rip the mask off and be free like those who did their own research and support freedumb.

344
Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:01:22am
345
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:01:46am

snerk

346
dat_said  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:01:56am

re: #268 Punish Domestic Terrorists

…. they don’t want their kids to be smarter and more successful than they are.

I know you were only semi serious but I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard one of my ND cousins, older relatives, and acquaintances trash talk college educated people. Some have even gone so far as to assert that it’s wrong for the state to fund UND and NDSU because none of the students stay.

They’re wrong about the none staying and, I suspect they’re just upset that their little Johnny only visits once a year and has opinions different than theirs and therefore need to place all the blame on someone else, whether it’s the colleges or big city liberals or big city college communists.

347
lawhawk  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:02:36am

re: #344 Dangerman

We’ve known he engaged in document destruction since almost day one of his admin. There were reports to that fact, and that there was a team of people who’d go in and rummage through his trash bin and tape stuff back together.

He never stopped being a crime boss.

348
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:03:29am

Massie is getting ratioed sooo hard

349
Jay C  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:05:31am

re: #339 ipsos

You didn’t need a new online addiction.

I didn’t need a new online addiction.

Sorry in advance for the hours you’re about to lose playing this.

wikitrivia.tomjwatson.com

Maybe its a Chrome thing, but this link doesn’t work for me: I get a “too many redirects” notice.

350
Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:05:58am

351
Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:07:43am

re: #347 lawhawk

We’ve known he engaged in document destruction since almost day one of his admin. There were reports to that fact, and that there was a team of people who’d go in and rummage through his trash bin and tape stuff back together.

He never stopped being a crime boss.

352
Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:11:08am

re: #204 Dangerman

353
ipsos  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:12:12am

re: #349 Jay C

Maybe its a Chrome thing, but this link doesn’t work for me: I get a “too many redirects” notice.

It’s suddenly doing that to me, too.

354
darthstar  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:12:17am

re: #297 Punish Domestic Terrorists

The kind of day when many things can be kites.
I could really use a week or two somewhere warm and sunny right now.

I’ve got a tandem/trick kite in the garage I bought maybe 25 years ago…fiberglass frame, two strings…thing is still in great shape. Would actually be a fun thing to play with. I suspect if I look out the front window there will be kite surfers in the harbor…they love days like this.

355
darthstar  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:15:37am

re: #339 ipsos

🏛️ wikitrivia.tomjwatson.com

🥈 Streak: 11
🥈 Best Streak: 11

356
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:16:40am
357
Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:17:53am

So what’s the deal with the Biden / crack pipes thing?

358
darthstar  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:20:00am

Dolly Parton is a national fucking treasure.

359
Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:20:12am

This is exactly the amount of sense that a reply to Massie needs to make.

360
Mattand  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:20:56am

re: #357 Eclectic Cyborg

So what’s the deal with the Biden / crack pipes thing?

Great, we’ve got another “Let’s Go, Brandon” line of stupidity going. First I’m hearing of it as well.

361
Dopamine Fish  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:22:12am

re: #357 Eclectic Cyborg

So what’s the deal with the Biden / crack pipes thing?

Something having to do with Hunter Biden, supposedly.

362
Mattand  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:23:45am

re: #347 lawhawk

We’ve known he engaged in document destruction since almost day one of his admin. There were reports to that fact, and that there was a team of people who’d go in and rummage through his trash bin and tape stuff back together.

He never stopped being a crime boss.

Yeah, I’m a little mystified that this is a huge surprise of all of sudden. To my memory, Politico covered it nearly four years. It was around the time Amaroso had her book out, and accused Trump of actually eating documents he tore up.

363
Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:24:08am

Rubio is an idiot

Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) has rejected Senate Minority Leader Mitch
McConnell’s (R-KY) description of the storming of the U.S. Capitol as a
“violent insurrection.”

Rubio spoke to NewsNation’s Kellie Meyer on Wednesday, who asked him
why he declines to call January 6th a “violent insurrection.” His
answer: “There was no way they were going to overthrow the government of
the United States.”

msn

so did he mean it was violent but not an insurrection?
or it wasn’t violent either?
because the idea that you can’t call it an insurrection unless it succeeds is asinine.

364
Jay C  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:25:00am

re: #360 Mattand

re: #357 Eclectic Cyborg

So what’s the deal with the Biden / crack pipes thing?

Great, we’ve got another “Let’s Go, Brandon” line of stupidity going. First I’m hearing of it as well.

Moi aussi - though since the only references I have seen have been tweets from Republican politicians (i.e. idiots), so the credibility factor is likely somewhere in negative figures. Though has never stopped them…..

365
Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:25:19am
366
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:25:55am

re: #357 Eclectic Cyborg

So what’s the deal with the Biden / crack pipes thing?

an article from Washington Beacon, picked up by the Daily Mail.

Just the regular fictional bullshit

367
Mattand  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:26:21am

re: #361 Dopamine Fish

Something having to do with Hunter Biden, supposedly.

Man, it is just a matter of time before they blame the other son of causing his own cancer in a long con to make Biden look more sympathetic.

I’m being facetious, but these are the same loons who think JFK, Jr. is both alive and aligned with their politics.

368
darthstar  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:26:42am

re: #365 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Peter Doocy again? Or is this Newsmax?

369
lawhawk  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:26:58am

re: #362 Mattand

Short term attention span theater.

That and the fact that the National Archives did have to recover documents that Trump stole (just as they had to do with Sandy Berger who stole documents years back).

Difference is that Berger was ultimately charged, tried, and convicted, and Trump’s yet to see justice applied to him.

370
darthstar  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:27:26am

re: #357 Eclectic Cyborg

So what’s the deal with the Biden / crack pipes thing?

I WANT MY GOVIMMINT CRAK PIPE!!

371
lawhawk  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:27:49am

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

Taking things out of context, such as trying to provide safer alternatives for those with addiction to not share needles, etc., and the claim was made that these packages included crack pipes too.

372
darthstar  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:29:28am

Singapore, apparently…

373
Mattand  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:30:56am

re: #370 darthstar

I WANT MY GOVIMMINT CRAK PIPE!!

Thanks, Obama.

374
Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:31:22am

re: #368 darthstar

Peter Doocy again? Or is this Newsmax?

I don’t know if it was Newsmax or not. Doocy is out as it was a woman who asked the question.

375
Jay C  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:32:32am

re: #373 Mattand

re: #370 darthstar

I WANT MY GOVIMMINT CRAK PIPE!!

Thanks, Obama.

For an extra contribution, do they send you one that was on the WH Christmas Tree?
//

376
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:33:43am
377
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:36:12am
378
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:39:27am

LOL

WTF does he think insurance companies do right now?

379
Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:45:30am

re: #370 darthstar

I WANT MY GOVIMMINT CRAK PIPE!!

I do too, with an American flag and an eagle on it, but I’ll use it for cannabis extract.

380
Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:47:19am

re: #378 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

WTF does he think insurance companies do right now?

381
Mike Lamb  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:48:35am

re: #363 Dangerman

Rubio is an idiot

msn

so did he mean it was violent but not an insurrection?
or it wasn’t violent either?
because the idea that you can’t call it an insurrection unless it succeeds is asinine.

I’m sure Rubio will have a similar approach next time 3 Muslims are arrested for a terrorist plot that had zero chance of succeeding.

382
Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:51:29am

Mike Pence is a lot scarier than I remembered him being.

383
jaunte  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:51:38am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

In Kevin’s defense, the word further does have two syllables.

384
austin_blue  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:51:41am

re: #206 Shropshire Slasher

Out of all due respect, I personally believe that we could have a significant impact on a virus this infectious is a common misconception.

Excllent. Now do ebola, measles and polio.

385
Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:52:27am

re: #380 Punish Domestic Terrorists

[Embedded content]
Just like insurance companies. I assume that at one time you weren’t a joke, since you made it to MIT. What happened?

legacy?
i kid, i kid.

386
Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:54:11am

Well, well, well. What’s this? I’m sure it was all just a big misunderstanding.

Poll worker charged

COEUR d’ALENE — A criminal case has been filed against a poll worker accused of misconduct during November’s local elections.

Laura L. Van Voorhees of Hayden is charged with electioneering, an offense punishable by a fine of up to $1,000.

387
lawhawk  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:54:13am

re: #380 Punish Domestic Terrorists

388
Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:56:26am

re: #373 Mattand

Thanks, Obama.

I still have my Obama-car, which I was able to buy in 2011, at least partly thanks to the Obama administration’s recovery from the GOP crash of 2008-09.

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

389
No Malarkey!  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:58:01am

re: #334 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hal Rogers and Andy Barr are both contenders.

Rand Paul IMO is hands down the worst.

390
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 11:59:21am

re: #389 No Malarkey!

Rand Paul IMO is hands down the worst.

Massie is Rand’s mini-me clone

391
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 12:01:10pm
392
Dopamine Fish  Feb 9, 2022 • 12:02:36pm

re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why is it not a surprise to me that Texas is involved here? Because of course they’d make it legal and easy for a business to get rid of its liabilities.

393
Dopamine Fish  Feb 9, 2022 • 12:03:17pm

“Texas: We make it easy for companies to get a divorce. But not people, because FUCK PEOPLE.”

394
Grunthos the Flatulent  Feb 9, 2022 • 12:04:17pm

re: #327 sagehen

[Embedded content]

amirite?

I don’t drop hints. Also, wrong “down under” and “kiwi” ain’t long enough.

395
Crush White Nationalism  Feb 9, 2022 • 12:04:36pm

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

Massie is Rand’s mini-me clone

That or Rand’s curly-haired brain slug divided and took control of Massie.
The man went to MIT and he acts like he has no idea how anything works.

396
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2022 • 12:05:39pm

re: #395 Punish Domestic Terrorists

That or Rand’s curly-haired brain slug divided and took control of Massie.
The man went to MIT and he acts like he has no idea how anything works.

Rand went to Baylor and Duke…

397
No Malarkey!  Feb 9, 2022 • 12:07:04pm

re: #395 Punish Domestic Terrorists

That or Rand’s curly-haired brain slug divided and took control of Massie.
The man went to MIT and he acts like he has no idea how anything works.

Because he is trying to appeal to his brain damaged base.

398
lawhawk  Feb 9, 2022 • 12:09:18pm

re: #396 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rand went to Baylor and Duke…

Kennedy (the other one), went to Oxford before returning to the US and adopting that hokey accent.

399
Dangerman  Feb 9, 2022 • 12:11:04pm

re: #206 Shropshire Slasher

Out of all due respect, I personally believe that we could have a significant impact on a virus this infectious is a common misconception.

re: #384 austin_blue

Excllent. Now do ebola, measles and polio.

- smallpox was the first virus beaten by a vaccine - quite significant

- the plague (yeah bacteria) was beaten back dozens of times through history - by regulating behavior
— by quarantining either the healthy, or later on the sick.
— controlling ports, limiting public functions, because they knew proximity

if none of that worked, we’d all be dead. - also quite significant

- cholera (ok it’s bacteria too) - improvements in sanitation and protecting drinking water from contamination. - i’d call that significant too

government can have a significant impact on public health if the public will cooperate and participate. because scientific knowledge hundreds of years ago was not what it is now, a lot of force was necessary. maybe they didnt know why, but they pretty much knew what they were trying to do could probably work. or conversely, would fail if the population didnt, yes, fall in line.

and of course if it didnt you try something else. which they also did.

400
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 9, 2022 • 12:11:11pm

re: #296 Dread Pirate Ron

It’s obvious. The GOP considers the Democrats ‘enemies domestic’.


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