Tiny Desk (Home) Concert: The Great Catherine Russell

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NPR Music’s Tiny Desk series will celebrate Black History Month with Tiny Desk (home) concerts featuring legends in the world of R&B, jazz, gospel, and hip-hop. Each artist in this legacy lineup has helped to define Black music as we know it and will be performing a Tiny Desk concert for the first time.

Suraya Mohamed | February 11, 2022
Look around the GB’s Juke Joint studio in Long Island City, N.Y. and you will see adornments from jazz singer Catherine Russell’s home: a vintage Royal typewriter, a black dial phone, a red tiny desk and a striking Malian Bògòlanfini cloth that drapes the piano. Black and white photos of Billie Holiday and old-time big bands rest on the shelves and piano along with a copy of Russells’ soon-to-be-released album, Send For Me, out April 1.

Two-color paintings hang on the back wall. One was purchased by Russell from a local Panamanian artist while visiting Bocas Del Toro, her father’s birthplace. The other is from the studio’s collection: an image of Willie Dixon, one of the fathers of the early blues.

Russell, a Grammy Award-winning vocalist, is one of the most recognized jazz artists performing today. Behind the mic, her satiny voice is robust and relaxed, and it’s clear she and the band are having a ton of fun. They start this joyful set with a foot-stomping swing tune, “The Darktown Strutters’ Ball.” Written by the African American composer Shelton Brooks, this popular early jazz standard hasn’t lost its bounce more than a century later.

Russell’s music is informed by many early 20th century musicians, and especially inspired by the Black blues women of the 1920s. Her set highlights that influence with “He May Be Your Dog But He’s Wearing My Collar” by vaudeville singer Rosa Henderson. She also sings a tune written by her father, Luis Russell, a renowned pianist and composer who was Louis Armstrong’s long-time musical director. “Lucille” is a playful love story about Armstrong’s fourth and longest-lasting marriage. The set ends with an inspiring bluesy song, “You’ve Been A Good Old Wagon,” one of the first ragtime songs ever published.

SET LIST
“The Darktown Strutters’ Ball”
“He May Be Your Dog But He’s Wearing My Collar”
“Lucille”
“You’ve Been A Good Old Wagon”

MUSICIANS
Catherine Russell: vocals
Matt Munisteri: guitar, banjo, musical director
Tal Ronen: bass
Mark McLean: drums
Sean Mason: piano

CREDITS
Executive Producer: Paul Kahn
Technical Supervisor: Glen Forrest
Recorded by Hector Castillo & Colin Mohnacs
Video Production: Ross Mayfield
Cameras: Ross Mayfield & Andrés Cottin
Filmed at GB’s Juke Joint, Long Island City, NY

TINY DESK TEAM
Producer: Suraya Mohamed
Video Producer: Joshua Bryant
Audio Mastering: Josh Rogosin
Tiny Production Team: Bob Boilen, Bobby Carter, Kara Frame, Maia Stern, Sofie Hernandez-Simeonidis, Ashley Pointer
Executive Producer: Keith Jenkins
Senior VP, Programming: Anya Grundmann

#catherinerussell #nprmusic #tinydesk #bhmxnprmusic

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2022 • 9:08:24pm

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mmmirele  Feb 11, 2022 • 9:13:25pm

And for something completely different…

Japan is the world leader in karaoke. Seriously, it’s huge. Renting a karaoke room and setting up for a work party is a THING. Selecting the right music for the party is HUGE. So it should come as no surprise that some people who are not natural singers and whose day jobs are the furthest thing from singing turn out to be really good at singing because it is so much a part of Japanese culture.

This guy is Kakuryu Rikisaburo, the 71st yokozuna, which is the highest rank in sumo. He retired in March 2021. And here he is, singing the Frank Sinatra standard, “I Did It My Way.” Note: English is Kakuryu’s third language, after Mongolian and Japanese. I think he does a fabulous job.

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2022 • 9:18:59pm

Make sure you old wagon daddys listen to “You’ve Been A Good Old Wagon.”

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retired cynic  Feb 11, 2022 • 9:22:33pm

THAT was just a grand set!

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2022 • 9:30:22pm

This just showed up in my feed, even though it’s from November:

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austin_blue  Feb 11, 2022 • 9:31:43pm

What the Russkies may face if they push armor into Ukraine.

They have absolutely nothing that can stop these weapons. Nothing.

Each Smart Pig, or JSOW (AGM-154B) has six of these submunitions loaded into it. A Dutch F-16 can carry four of them:

en.wikipedia.org

That’s 96 dead tanks or armored vehicles per mission.

Sucks to be Russia.

Sucks to be Putin realizing he has painted himself into a corner without Patrick Swayze yelling “Nobody puts Vlady in the corner!”

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2022 • 9:35:47pm

There’s more in the thread, and some of them are great:

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2022 • 10:07:25pm

My first mathler:

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ckkatz  Feb 11, 2022 • 10:08:51pm
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William Lewis  Feb 11, 2022 • 10:26:13pm

re: #6 austin_blue

Javelins, NLAWS, a population where a MILF buys a sniper rifle to kill Russians and nurses buy assault rifles to kill Russians and know how to use them. Guerrilla warfare is not your nightmare, Russia, it is your daily reality.

Do you remember the “Winter War”? You will remember it as the easy part going forward. They will not prevent you from killing fascists.

They will not stop you now. May the western allies fight alongside you.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 11, 2022 • 10:29:29pm

Country Music Producer Blake Mevis, who posted the same tiresome antivaxx memes as all of the other antivaxxers on FB, is dead of Covid at age 73. sorryantivaxxer.com

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stpaulbear  Feb 11, 2022 • 10:40:04pm

re: #8 Belafon

My first mathler:

I got 5 yellow squares on my first try but I’m giving up until tomorrow. I’d already done Wordle.

Wordle 238 4/6

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No Malarkey!  Feb 11, 2022 • 10:53:48pm
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Sherlock Hound  Feb 11, 2022 • 10:54:54pm

re: #2 mmmirele

I’ll make a serious run at Francophone karaoke!
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Captain Ron  Feb 11, 2022 • 10:58:47pm

re: #14 Sherlock Hound

I’ll make a serious run at Francophone karaoke!
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stpaulbear  Feb 11, 2022 • 10:59:53pm

re: #8 Belafon

I solved it. Time for bed.

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sagehen  Feb 11, 2022 • 11:03:31pm

So the newest episode of The Gilded Age,

Click to Reveal

The Old Society biddies are gossiping about how the classless “new people” are planning to build a new opera house, because they’re being forbidden to buy boxes in the old one…

The “new people” who must be shunned, in spite of their vast wealth, are “oh, you know, the usual, J P Morgan of course, the Vanderbilts, the Rockefellers…”

Old New York, of course, doesn’t understand yet that they’re on borrowed time

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sagehen  Feb 11, 2022 • 11:06:14pm

re: #14 Sherlock Hound

I’ll make a serious run at Francophone karaoke!
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Youtube Video

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 11, 2022 • 11:08:36pm

re: #12 stpaulbear

I got 5 yellow squares on my first try but I’m giving up until tomorrow. I’d already done Wordle.

Wordle 238 4/6

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Took me 4 for wordle and 3 for mathler.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 11, 2022 • 11:40:54pm

Russia has apparently begun evacuating diplomatic personnel from Ukraine.

Russia has begun withdrawing its diplomatic staff from Ukraine, the Russian state-owned Ria Novosti news agency reported on Saturday amid mounting fears that Moscow will soon launch an invasion after months of military build-up on the borders with its neighbour.

“Russian diplomats and consular officers in Ukraine have begun to leave for Russia,” Ria Novosti quoted a source as saying.

Russia has said it had no plans to invade Ukraine and has not officially announced the withdrawal of its diplomatic staff there, but the source said a reduction in personnel was indicated by the increased difficulty in obtaining appointments at Russia’s embassy and consulates.

The US and a number of allies have called on their citizens to leave Ukraine after National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said on Friday that a Russian invasion of Ukraine could come at “any time”.

thenationalnews.com

RIA Novosti source (in Russian): ria.ru

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No Malarkey!  Feb 11, 2022 • 11:44:27pm

re: #20 Dr Lizardo

Russia has apparently begun evacuating diplomatic personnel from Ukraine.

thenationalnews.com

RIA Novosti source (in Russian): ria.ru

I sure hope Putin is bluffing; what a tragedy in lives lost it will be if he really does this.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 11, 2022 • 11:50:49pm

re: #21 No Malarkey!

I sure hope Putin is bluffing; what a tragedy in lives lost it will be if he really does this.

I don’t think Putin is bluffing. He seems to genuinely see Ukraine as Russian territory, a province in open rebellion to Moscow.

In any event, he’s gone so far out on a limb now that perhaps he can’t afford to crawl back without looking weak and indecisive…and in the Byzantine world of Russian power politics, weak and indecisive can get you killed in short order.

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ericblair  Feb 11, 2022 • 11:57:32pm

re: #22 Dr Lizardo

I don’t think Putin is bluffing. He seems to genuinely see Ukraine as Russian territory, a province in open rebellion to Moscow.

In any event, he’s gone so far out on a limb now that perhaps he can’t afford to crawl back without looking weak and indecisive…and in the Byzantine world of Russian power politics, weak and indecisive can get you killed in short order.

Being wrong can get you killed faster, but this situation is so complicated we can only watch and wait.

Based on the sort of media confusion about whether the US intercepted the go order or not, I assume that the US (or someone friendly) intercepted whatever the Russian equivalent of a Western warning order is. That is, be prepared to execute the war plan imminently, but don’t execute yet. They can always be stood down (but the clock is ticking, you can’t maintain this readiness long).

My guess about why the US announced this publicly. First, put Russia on notice that their C2 is compromised, make them think a bit. Second, there’s been continued talk about a false flag to start the invasion, but it hasn’t happened yet: announcing that Russia is going to invade before whatever false flag attack is made makes the whole thing obvious to everyone. And third, Putin can stand down and call the US a bunch of liars. Fine, throw us in that briar patch.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 12, 2022 • 12:07:27am

re: #23 ericblair

My guess about why the US announced this publicly. First, put Russia on notice that their C2 is compromised, make them think a bit

That thought had occurred to me as well; perhaps our SIGINT has penetrated their command and control infrastructure (maybe with a little help from HUMINT, too) and this is us letting the Russians know that they’ve been compromised and we know exactly what they’re up to.

The easiest solution would be for Putin to pull the old “it was just a prank, bro” card and call it a day, but such a move might well have domestic consequences for Putin as well. Of course, he could say, “I’ve made the greatest possible concession in the interests of peace, all in the face of Western imperialist aggression” or something to that effect, and the propaganda artists in the Kremlin should have little difficulty in easily spinning that to the public.

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Florida Panhandler  Feb 12, 2022 • 12:52:24am

re: #22 Dr Lizardo

I don’t think Putin is bluffing. He seems to genuinely see Ukraine as Russian territory, a province in open rebellion to Moscow.

In any event, he’s gone so far out on a limb now that perhaps he can’t afford to crawl back without looking weak and indecisive…and in the Byzantine world of Russian power politics, weak and indecisive can get you killed in short order.

I think Putin will find out a steady flow of body bags back home will also get you floating in a river, falling out of a Kremlin window, or suddenly turning allergic to Polonium.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 12, 2022 • 1:07:53am

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 12, 2022 • 1:11:52am

re: #25 Florida Panhandler

I think Putin will find out a steady flow of body bags back home will also get you floating in a river, falling out of a Kremlin window, or suddenly turning allergic to Polonium.

Honestly, Putin having an untimely accident might be the best possible outcome. However, there’s absolutely no guarantee that who comes after him might not be an even bigger irredentist and pursue a blatantly aggressive - and revanchist - foreign policy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 12, 2022 • 1:39:43am

re: #22 Dr Lizardo

I don’t think Putin is bluffing. He seems to genuinely see Ukraine as Russian territory, a province in open rebellion to Moscow.

In any event, he’s gone so far out on a limb now that perhaps he can’t afford to crawl back without looking weak and indecisive…and in the Byzantine world of Russian power politics, weak and indecisive can get you killed in short order.

Russia has a certain historical claim to Crimea but seizing it by military means was by no means the right approach to resolving the issue.

And as with the Crimea, all the ethnic Russians left stranded in the Donbass after the dissolution of the USSR are his Sudetendeutsch to be used as a pretext for annexation.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 12, 2022 • 1:48:17am

re: #28 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Russia has a certain historical claim to Crimea but seizing it by military means was by no means the right approach to resolving the issue.

And as with the Crimea, all the ethnic Russians left stranded in the Donbass after the dissolution of the USSR are his Sudetendeutsch to be used as a pretext for annexation.

Maybe what’s needed is something like the Beneš Decrees; the expulsion of Russian nationals from the Donetsk Basin. After all, many of them are Russian citizens and hold Russian passports, so it should be no difficulty to simply tell them to go home - indeed, they should be ecstatic to return to Mother Russia.

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ericblair  Feb 12, 2022 • 1:50:24am

re: #28 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Russia has a certain historical claim to Crimea but seizing it by military means was by no means the right approach to resolving the issue.

And as with the Crimea, all the ethnic Russians left stranded in the Donbass after the dissolution of the USSR are his Sudetendeutsch to be used as a pretext for annexation.

Turkey has a “claim” to Crimea too. Ukraine, Finland, Lithuania, and Mongolia (hell, even Germany) have historical claims to large parts of Russia, Russia has historical claims to Alaska, the UK has historical claims to most of the planet including the United States, and we can go on all day. There’s no issue to resolve.

Not only ethnic Russians as a pretext, but newly-minted Russian citizens. Mass passportization and any coercion of residents of occupied territories to acquire the citizenship of their occupiers are against the Geneva conventions for this reason.

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Dangerman  Feb 12, 2022 • 2:04:12am

re: #11 No Malarkey!

Country Music Producer Blake Mevis, who posted the same tiresome antivaxx memes as all of the other antivaxxers on FB, is dead of Covid at age 73. sorryantivaxxer.com

He was old
How long did he have anyway
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Dangerman  Feb 12, 2022 • 2:09:53am

Lee is full of crap

Senator Lee does not object to this specific historical site. He does object to any increase in the total amount of land owned by the federal government as the federal government fails to adequately care for the land already in its vast holdings,” Lee’s spokesman, Lee Lonsberry, told The Associated Press.

The Amache site is less than one square mile (2.4 square kilometers), Bennett’s office and the Prowers County Assessor said. It contains remnants of barracks, latrines, mess halls, military police structures and a cemetery.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 12, 2022 • 2:10:23am

re: #30 ericblair

Turkey has a “claim” to Crimea too…

Of course there are “historical” claims that go back centuries, but in this case, the Russian claim to Ukraine is relatively recent: it was a part of Russia until 1954 and was simply “given” by the Russian SSR to the Ukrainian SSR for administrative purposes as it was not physically connected to the rest of Russia.

And that was only an administrative issue for the ethnic Russians in the Crimea, they were still citizens of the same country, they basically just paid their taxes to a different authority.

The issue of all the tens of millions of ethnic Russians who had been resettled outside of Russia was pretty much ignored with the breakup of the USSR. Before 1991, the Russians were a privileged minority with preferred access to better jobs, housing and education.

Those who could prove German descent were allowed to migrate to Germany, and hundreds of thousands came from Kazakhstan and other former Republics.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 12, 2022 • 2:15:03am

re: #29 Dr Lizardo

Maybe what’s needed is something like the Beneš Decrees; the expulsion of Russian nationals from the Donetsk Basin. After all, many of them are Russian citizens and hold Russian passports, so it should be no difficulty to simply tell them to go home - indeed, they should be ecstatic to return to Mother Russia.

Many of them were born in these regions, the descendants of people who were resettled there by Soviet authorities to Russify these regions. This does not necessarily make them ecstatic to be called back to the Motherland.

It is an issue that was ignored with the breakup of the USSR and is now rearing its ugly head 30 years later.

PS, my grandmother, Maria Schultz, was a Sudentendeutsche. Had she not emigrated to America at the turn of the 20th century, she would have been among the expelled under the Beneš Decrees, and would probably have wound up in some little village in the Rhineland…

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Dangerman  Feb 12, 2022 • 2:20:08am

Remember when tfg said this last week

The papers were given easily and without conflict and on a very friendly basis,” he said

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Well

In a series of interviews with CNN, a half-dozen people familiar with the matter described a tense situation that took nearly eight months to resolve

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ericblair  Feb 12, 2022 • 2:43:13am

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Of course there are “historical” claims that go back centuries, but in this case, the Russian claim to Ukraine is relatively recent: it was a part of Russia until 1954 and was simply “given” by the Russian SSR to the Ukrainian SSR for administrative purposes as it was not physically connected to the rest of Russia.

The issue of all the tens of millions of ethnic Russians who had ben resettled outside of Russia was pretty much ignored with the breakup of the USSR. Before 1991, the Russians were a privileged minority with preferred access to better jobs, housing and education.

Those who could prove German descent were allowed to migrate to Germany, and hundreds of thousands came from Kazakhstan and other former Republics.

Yeah, but the obvious question is where “recent” claims become “too old”; 50 years? 60? 75.2? Of course, “recent” and “too old” are always defined as whatever is convenient for the aggressor state. And yes, Crimea was assigned to the Ukrainian SSR through the USSR’s lawful internal processes, and kept part of Ukraine as part of the Belovezh accords. Which means it belongs to Ukraine.

I don’t think the situation of millions of ethnic Russians outside Russia was ignored, but that it was inevitable. The other former Soviet republics saw the expansionist threat from Russia right off; I had an acquaintance who was ethnic Russian in Estonia, who was stateless for a long time (which sucked). Most ethnic Russians in Ukraine do not support the Russian government. Validating these sorts of claims endorses apartheid ethnostates and wars of conquest, so it’s not where we want to go as a species.

And, then, Russia is not a Russian ethnostate by a long shot. Using that argument, Finland should take over Karelia, Turkey take over Crimea, Tatarstan, and Bashkortostan, Mongolia take over Tuva, China take over the Russian Far East, and on it goes. But, of course, it only gets argued one way.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 12, 2022 • 2:47:24am

re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yeah, in fairness, the Beneš Decrees completely overlooked the fact that not only were many of the Sudetendeutsche born there, but that more broadly, the Germans who became the Sudeten Germans were in fact cordially invited to move there way back in the day.

And needless to say, the Beneš Decrees are still something of a sore point in German/Czech relations, though a rather trivial one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 12, 2022 • 3:07:05am

re: #36 ericblair

I don’t think the situation of millions of ethnic Russians outside Russia was ignored, but that it was inevitable. The other former Soviet republics saw the expansionist threat from Russia right off; I had an acquaintance who was ethnic Russian in Estonia, who was stateless for a long time (which sucked). Most ethnic Russians in Ukraine do not support the Russian government. Validating these sorts of claims endorses apartheid ethnostates and wars of conquest, so it’s not where we want to go as a species.

When Czechoslovakia broke up, they made allowances for Czechs and Slovaks to continue to be able to live and work wherever they were at the time of the breakup. Things have been generally peaceful there.

Yugoslavia did not, and we saw what happened there.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 12, 2022 • 3:24:17am

re: #38 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When Czechoslovakia broke up, they made allowances for Czechs and Slovaks to continue to be able to live and work wherever they were at the time of the breakup. Things have been generally peaceful there.

Yugoslavia did not, and we saw what happened there.

Lots of Slovaks continue to come here to Czech Republic to work and live. Hell, the police don’t even inquire as to their immigration status - they consider Slovaks and Czechs to be one and the same, even though strictly speaking, Slovaks are “foreigners” and subject to the same regulations as anyone else from an EU member state (and frankly, even that is pretty routinely ignored).

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 12, 2022 • 3:37:46am

Back in a bit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 12, 2022 • 3:47:22am

re: #39 Dr Lizardo

Lots of Slovaks continue to come here to Czech Republic to work and live. Hell, the police don’t even inquire as to their immigration status - they consider Slovaks and Czechs to be one and the same, even though strictly speaking, Slovaks are “foreigners” and subject to the same regulations as anyone else from an EU member state (and frankly, even that is pretty routinely ignored).

After the breakup of the USSR, a lot of expat Russian nationals got the thin edge of the wedge: in countries like Lithuania they had to pass a language test to gain citizenship even if they were born there.

And for a while, Russians in the exclave of Kaliningrad had to travel by Ferry to Leningrad as the land route through Lithuania and Latvia was blocked for them.

And that is the sort of resentment that Putin is relying on when he moves militarily to bring these people heim ins Reich

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RoJo Must Go!  Feb 12, 2022 • 4:19:09am

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darthstar  Feb 12, 2022 • 4:48:56am

NY Times wordle
Wordle 238 1/6 - streak is 2

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Wordle 238 5/6 - streak is 21

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darthstar  Feb 12, 2022 • 5:03:23am

Solved the mathler on the first try, but this time they wanted the order reversed.

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RoJo Must Go!  Feb 12, 2022 • 5:05:00am

re: #43 darthstar

NY Times wordle
Wordle 238 1/6 - streak is 2

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Original wordle
Wordle 238 5/6 - streak is 21

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Nice one on the Wordle!

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darthstar  Feb 12, 2022 • 5:13:06am

re: #45 RoJo Must Go!

Nice one on the Wordle!

It’s the same puzzle. I just have my streak on original wordle and will be 1/6 on NY times until it goes away.

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darthstar  Feb 12, 2022 • 5:15:14am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 12, 2022 • 5:16:24am

re: #47 darthstar

and is forbidden by more than 3,000 homeowners’ associations in California alone…

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RoJo Must Go!  Feb 12, 2022 • 5:17:59am

re: #46 darthstar

Ah, I see.

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mmmirele  Feb 12, 2022 • 5:18:06am

Remembering years back asking my doctor how she felt about parents not vaccinating kids (as she was giving me the MMR booster) and her response was, “I think they’d have a hard time in this practice.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 12, 2022 • 5:21:01am

re: #50 mmmirele

On the other hand, your doctor is at least willing to face and accept the consequences of her actions. The biggest problem I have is with militant anti masker/vaxers who want to ignore mandates and still enjoy full freedom to travel on airliners, attend crowded public venues, work at jobs that require close physical contact, etc.

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Dangerman  Feb 12, 2022 • 5:23:29am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

On the other hand, your doctor is at least willing to face and accept the consequences of her actions. The biggest problem I have is with militant anti masker/vaxers who want to ignore mandates and still enjoy full freedom to travel on airliners, attend crowded public venues, work at jobs that require close physical contact, etc.

they want the second amendment treatment

all the so-called “rights” and no responsibility or consequences

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lawhawk  Feb 12, 2022 • 5:25:10am

re: #32 Dangerman

One of the reasons we don’t handle federal lands appropriately is that we essentially give away grazing rights, don’t hold those who steal grazing rights accountable (see the Bundys), essentially give away mining and drilling rights for a fraction of their worth, and then right wingers caterwaul when we want to preserve and protect Native American lands or important sites because of their beauty and importance.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 12, 2022 • 5:32:03am

Remember James Watt: “What’s the point of preserving it when Jesus is coming back any day now?”

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mmmirele  Feb 12, 2022 • 5:33:37am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

On the other hand, your doctor is at least willing to face and accept the consequences of her actions. The biggest problem I have is with militant anti masker/vaxers who want to ignore mandates and still enjoy full freedom to travel on airliners, attend crowded public venues, work at jobs that require close physical contact, etc.

Oh YEAH. Forgot this. I was called earlier this week by the practice to reschedule an appointment for a regular checkup. The medical assistant made a point of telling me that masks were required. The appointment is 3.5 months from now, on May 31. Hmmm. That said, it was a PA from this same practice group who looked at me funny in April 2020 when I expressed a hope that the pandemic would be over soon. She then said she didn’t think it was going to happen that soon.

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jeffreyw  Feb 12, 2022 • 5:35:41am

Good morning!

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2022 • 5:55:39am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 12, 2022 • 5:59:27am

I used to live in the remains of an old dude ranch in the hills outside what is now the outskirts of Mesa, Arizona. The adobe walls were crumbling and had grass growing on them. We called it “Little Prairie on the House”.

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:03:47am

I wonder if they’ll just make it so that you can get a booster every so often:

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:04:35am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:07:00am

re: #60 Belafon

People were in a hurry to get kids back to school but there was little discussion of beefing up teaching and support staff, expanding infrastructure or putting physical or procedural security measures in place.

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:11:11am
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mmmirele  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:30:13am

And in other news…

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No Malarkey!  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:33:07am

re: #59 Belafon

I wonder if they’ll just make it so that you can get a booster every so often:

That tweet is a bit misleading, in that the study was a small sample, and many of the people who got boosted four or more months ago were in vulnerable populations, so we really don’t know yet if the booster starts waning after 4 months. And even in those people, it was still very effective in keeping them out of the hospital.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:36:30am

Kelly SoRelle, lawyer to the Oathkeepers white nationalist militia, finds out Stewart Rhodes threw her under the bus.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:40:40am

re: #56 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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gocart mozart  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:41:50am
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So Cal Greek Hippie  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:43:29am

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No Malarkey!  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:44:42am

And if they don’t leave voluntarily, we’ll kill them with Covid.

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:46:01am

re: #64 No Malarkey!

That tweet is a bit misleading, in that the study was a small sample, and many of the people who got boosted four or more months ago were in vulnerable populations, so we really don’t know yet if the booster starts waning after 4 months. And even in those people, it was still very effective in keeping them out of the hospital.

Understood, it was more of a general comment.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:47:32am

re: #69 No Malarkey!

And if they don’t leave voluntarily, we’ll kill them with Covid.

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Of course there are legions of conservative and retired teachers waiting in the wings to take those jobs. (What state is this?)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:48:05am

What’s going on at the border? Anyone know?

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The Squire of Logos  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:49:22am

re: #69 No Malarkey!

And if they don’t leave voluntarily, we’ll kill them with Covid.

“We want our kids to be as pig ignorant as we are!”

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:49:24am

re: #67 gocart mozart

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Targetpractice  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:49:55am

re: #67 gocart mozart

Unless they caught Vanna just before she put the “I” in “Air,” then the joke doesn’t work.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:50:07am

re: #73 The Squire of Logos

“We want our kids to be as pig ignorant as we are!”

We want ‘em even ignoranter!

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:52:13am

As to our northern border this is what I was able to find from WaPo:
washingtonpost.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:52:31am

re: #75 Targetpractice

Unless they caught Vanna just before she put the “I” in “Air,” then the joke doesn’t work.

Such a nitpicker.

“Wheel of Fortune” was a big hit in its Russian TV version, and the woman revealing the letters, Vanna Karenina, was equally famous.

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:52:40am

re: #69 No Malarkey!

And if they don’t leave voluntarily, we’ll kill them with Covid.

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They don’t know teachers very well then. The people who take subpar pay to be part babysitters will teach through it.

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gocart mozart  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:57:17am
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Targetpractice  Feb 12, 2022 • 6:58:33am

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Such a nitpicker.

“Wheel of Fortune” was a big hit in its Russian TV version, and the woman revealing the letters, Vanna Karenina, was equally famous.

I can’t help it, years of playing puzzle games has conditioned me to look at pictures and go “What’s wrong here?”

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:01:29am

re: #44 darthstar

Solved the mathler on the first try, but this time they wanted the order reversed.

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Another 4 guess puzzle. That has been my overall solve count position by far.

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ckkatz  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:13:16am
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PhillyPretzel  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:16:45am

re: #83 ckkatz

Good. So far no violence. Let’s hope it remains that way.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:18:53am

re: #84 PhillyPretzel

Good. So far no violence. Let’s hope it remains that way.

Wonder if a similar scenario would play out the same on the US side of the border.

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ckkatz  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:19:09am

re: #84 PhillyPretzel

Good. So far no violence. Let’s hope it remains that way.

Amen!

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No Malarkey!  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:20:44am

re: #71 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Of course there are legions of conservative and retired teachers waiting in the wings to take those jobs. (What state is this?)

Kentucky.

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:22:36am

I think most people aren’t paying attention:

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:23:48am

re: #83 ckkatz

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I think it may be an actual strategy now to give MAGAt cosplayers time and access for a prolonged display of chest pounding defiance. This makes it all the more humiliating when they meekly surrender.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:23:50am

Whew. Took some thought.

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:23:55am
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No Malarkey!  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:24:46am

re: #88 Belafon

I think most people aren’t paying attention:

Most Americans know absolutely nothing about Ukraine.

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steve_davis  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:26:26am

re: #74 Belafon

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I just want to actually see the episode, so I can watch some completely non-plussed fellow say, “I’m gonna solve….fuck me in the ass tonight!” I would be really curious what the reaction would be. Surely there were snickers from the audience and participants at this point.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:27:02am

re: #92 No Malarkey!

Most Americans know absolutely nothing about Ukraine.

The 65+ remember it as a Soviet satellite state. Most everyone else has not recollection of that…

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steve_davis  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:28:52am

re: #80 gocart mozart

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yeah, thanks for the NOISE WARNING.

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darthstar  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:30:57am

Hard mathler made me think

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:32:51am

re: #83 ckkatz

That’s soooo Canadian. ♥️♥️♥️

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darthstar  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:34:14am

re: #83 ckkatz

Get a job, moran!

With dozens of police around his car, a man with “Trump 2024” and “Mandate freedom” spray-painted on his vehicle left without any resistance. Other protesters began dismantling a small tarp-covered encampment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:36:22am

re: #98 darthstar

With dozens of police around his car, a man with “Trump 2024” and “Mandate freedom” spray-painted on his vehicle left without any resistance.

Man, date, freedom, car, Trump: a cognitive test for anti-vaxers?

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ckkatz  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:40:09am

Looks like Paris is dealing with these convoys too. I don’t think that they will be as polite as the Canadians…

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:49:24am

Can’t sleep, 4:45am. Here, have tomorrow’s Wordle.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:57:35am

re: #88 Belafon

I think most people aren’t paying attention:

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I think the poll is seriously badly phrased. It sounds (intentionally?) as if they’re asking whether the US should join in making war on Russia or not.

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ckkatz  Feb 12, 2022 • 7:58:36am

Meanwhile, in New Zealand…

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Captain Magic  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:05:56am

Deaf musicians to be part of Super Bowl halftime events: detroitnews.com

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:07:46am

re: #103 ckkatz

Even more radical than DT and Company. This is not good.

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gocart mozart  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:09:10am
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wrenchwench  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:09:51am
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wrenchwench  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:19:56am

smol scrm

looks like relief

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mmmirele  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:19:57am

re: #94 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The 65+ remember it as a Soviet satellite state. Most everyone else has not recollection of that…

Some of us are old enough to remember calling Ukraine “The Ukraine” and have to remember not to do it. Just like we have to check ourselves on using “Soviet Union” versus Russia. /early ingrained habits die hard.

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darthstar  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:20:25am

I didn’t know that dogs could fly.

bbc.com

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William Lewis  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:22:54am

re: #109 mmmirele

Some of us are old enough to remember calling Ukraine “The Ukraine” and have to remember not to do it. Just like we have to check ourselves on using “Soviet Union” versus Russia. /early ingrained habits die hard.

Been going through that again in changing from Kiev to Kyiv of late as that’s now the preferred spelling (unless you’re talking Chicken Kiev ;)

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A Cranky One  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:24:38am

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wrenchwench  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:25:41am

re: #112 A Cranky One

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Start connecting the hoses…

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Decatur Deb  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:27:07am

re: #111 William Lewis

Been going through that again in changing from Kiev to Kyiv of late as that’s now the preferred spelling (unless you’re talking Chicken Kiev ;)

And bolshie Leicaskis.

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wrenchwench  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:28:36am

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:30:48am

re: #115 wrenchwench

Not quite there.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:31:22am

Takin’ it to the limit.

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wrenchwench  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:31:24am

One of Dad’s favorite sayings:

DO SOMETHING, EVEN IF IT’S WRONG!

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William Lewis  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:34:45am

re: #114 Decatur Deb

Best cameras the Soviets made; helps that they helped themselves to the Zeiss factory and moved it to Kyiv. I had a good mid 60’s body and a pre-war Zeiss 50/3.5 Tessar that was a glorious combo.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:39:58am

re: #109 mmmirele

Some of us are old enough to remember calling Ukraine “The Ukraine” and have to remember not to do it. Just like we have to check ourselves on using “Soviet Union” versus Russia. /early ingrained habits die hard.

Ukraine now… but because they want it that way, not because it’s correct. We said “the Ukraine” previously because ukraina is a common noun meaning, more or less, border. So it was “the Ukraine” in English, just as it’s “the United States” or “the German republic.”

This is a pet peeve of mine, because when they announced that they should now be called Ukraine, I got tired about the (wrong wrong wrong) definite article englishsplaining from people whose language doesn’t even have an article.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:40:15am

re: #118 wrenchwench

One of Dad’s favorite sayings:

MrBWS says that every day.

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wrenchwench  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:41:22am

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS says that every day.

Brother from another mother!

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:42:42am

re: #118 wrenchwench

One of Dad’s favorite sayings:

TBF, she may be trying to wet the area and slow the fire down. Not going to work unless she has a lot more water handy, but maybe worth the effort. (I hope the fire department is on the way.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:46:41am
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wrenchwench  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:49:59am

re: #123 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

TBF, she may be trying to wet the area and slow the fire down. Not going to work unless she has a lot more water handy, but maybe worth the effort. (I hope the fire department is on the way.)

-exercise in futility
-abandoned building
-old photo off the internet
-I never thought of them as a ‘she’, shame on me

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wrenchwench  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:51:58am

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Rand Paul does not know the meaning of ‘civil’.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:54:32am

re: #125 wrenchwench

-exercise in futility
-abandoned building
-old photo off the internet
-I never thought of them as a ‘she’, shame on me

If I enlarge the photo, it looks more like a man than a women, but looking at just the hands on my little (tablet) screen made me think it was a woman.

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William Lewis  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:55:46am

Ah, a good look at the history of a famous little ship…

USS Samuel B. Roberts - Guide 208

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 12, 2022 • 8:58:54am

re: #55 mmmirele

Oh YEAH. Forgot this. I was called earlier this week by the practice to reschedule an appointment for a regular checkup. The medical assistant made a point of telling me that masks were required. The appointment is 3.5 months from now, on May 31. Hmmm. That said, it was a PA from this same practice group who looked at me funny in April 2020 when I expressed a hope that the pandemic would be over soon. She then said she didn’t think it was going to happen that soon.

In March 2020, I thought everything would be under control by the end of June while a good friend of mine thought my timeline was pessimistic. Meanwhile my sister was pessimistic but confident that it would take until the end of August. I’d seen Outbreak and Contagion, read Preston’s

The Hot Zone

, and should have known better.

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A Cranky One  Feb 12, 2022 • 9:04:48am

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 12, 2022 • 9:11:55am

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sure, he’s all for it until it starts causing inconvenience for HIM.

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A Cranky One  Feb 12, 2022 • 9:14:40am

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 12, 2022 • 9:15:34am

This came up in my memories today. Written 2/12/2020 about the then-emerging Coronavirus:

MONSTER

Can’t kill it with bullets,
Can’t kill it with liquor.
Can’t kill it with drugs,
It’ll just make you sicker.

Can’t destroy it with silence,
Can’t burn it with matches,
Can’t cut out the legs
And just hope it collapses.

Can’t stop it with arrows,
Can’t stop it with knives.
Can’t stop its great fury
And destruction of lives.

Can’t erase it with pleasure,
Can’t kill it with joy.
Can’t disguise yourself from it,
It’s on a path to destroy.

The struggle is real,
But don’t give up the fight.
The only thing that
Can beat back the darkness…is light.

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prairiefire  Feb 12, 2022 • 9:21:36am

Can’t wait to go to Costco and run errands later tomorrow afternoon, hopefully every place will be deserted.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 12, 2022 • 9:24:56am

Caturday morning brunch.

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wrenchwench  Feb 12, 2022 • 9:29:28am

Liddle Wordle

Click to Reveal

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huh. Pastes in my old colors. Not how it shows at nyt.

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A Cranky One  Feb 12, 2022 • 9:31:49am

My spouse has been wanting to go out to eat, but I won’t go places where there are unmasked folks.

Her solution: a brunch right before the superb owl. An early valentines gift.

Restaurant is pricey but we’ve heard the food is excellent. Thinking it shouldn’t be crowded when we go.

Restaurant just called to confirm the reservation and remind us that proof of full vaccination is required for entry.

Helps increase my comfort level.

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sagehen  Feb 12, 2022 • 9:33:31am

re: #109 mmmirele

Some of us are old enough to remember calling Ukraine “The Ukraine” and have to remember not to do it. Just like we have to check ourselves on using “Soviet Union” versus Russia. /early ingrained habits die hard.

my dad’s parents came from Russia Poland Ukraine the Soviet Union, “depending what year the maps were drawn. Just call it The Old Country.”

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 12, 2022 • 9:37:37am

re: #138 sagehen

my dad’s parents came from Russia Poland Ukraine the Soviet Union, “depending what year the maps were drawn. Just call it The Old Country.”

From the pale of settlement.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 12, 2022 • 9:39:28am

re: #139 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Yes. Most of my family comes from that area. Most of my late mom’s family came from Kiev and Odessa. I am watching that area for that reason.

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Targetpractice  Feb 12, 2022 • 9:40:57am

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

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BLM blocked various bridges and highways back in 2020, and the response from MAGAts was to propose and pass laws making it legal to run down protestors if you felt “threatened.”

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A Mom Anon  Feb 12, 2022 • 9:46:54am

Is there any info out there, credible info, about where the money for these ridiculous trucker “protests” is coming from?

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dat_said  Feb 12, 2022 • 9:48:14am

Another below zero morning, so I’m sitting with some hot tea all wrapped up in a blanket watching YouTube videos of people hiking trails in the North Unit of Theodore Roosevelt National Park. Pangs of nostalgia for me, but very calming and warming for me and a nice retreat from the outside world.

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jeffreyw  Feb 12, 2022 • 9:48:33am

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 12, 2022 • 9:49:21am

re: #137 A Cranky One

I went to my nearby shopping center to see what it was looking like now that vaccine passports were struck down by the Czech Supreme Administrative Court.

The food court was packed shoulder-to-shoulder; barely a place to sit anywhere. Nonetheless, I did manage to find a place to enjoy a nice chicken vindaloo.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Feb 12, 2022 • 9:50:01am

re: #142 A Mom Anon

Cryptobros and Elon Musk, in part.

fortune.com

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Dave In Austin  Feb 12, 2022 • 9:52:01am

Troll control is at 8 and rising…….

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 12, 2022 • 9:57:45am

re: #103 ckkatz

Meanwhile, in New Zealand…

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Hijacked by the far right fringe? It’s the far right fringe that is responsible for these convoys in the first place. No hijacking is needed.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 12, 2022 • 9:59:44am

And back in Canada. I’m dying here.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:04:23am
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wrenchwench  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:06:25am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:07:17am

re: #150 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

LOL it’s amazing how the Daleks have become worldwide cultural icons. Perhaps the UK’s greatest export, just as Godzilla is for Japan.

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:08:32am

re: #120 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Ukraine now… but because they want it that way, not because it’s correct. We said “the Ukraine” previously because ukraina is a common noun meaning, more or less, border. So it was “the Ukraine” in English, just as it’s “the United States” or “the German republic.”

This is a pet peeve of mine, because when they announced that they should now be called Ukraine, I got tired about the (wrong wrong wrong) definite article englishsplaining from people whose language doesn’t even have an article.

It’s correct in the same sense that someone wants to be called James and not Jim.

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Dragonomics  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:09:50am

A sitting senator calling for civil disobedience. How is this not a crime?

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:14:14am

re: #150 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:14:51am

re: #154 Dragonomics

A sitting senator calling for civil disobedience. How is this not a crime?

Calling for civil disobedience is not a crime. For example, calling for people to protest Jim Crow in the South or march against the Vietnam war or support a woman’s right to choose — do we really want those to be labelled crimes? OTOH, there is nothing civil about the convoys; they are part of the GOP program to overturn our democracy and install a permanent RW autocracy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:24:19am

kinda important thread, starts here:

followup ending here:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:27:16am

re: #154 Dragonomics

A sitting senator calling for civil disobedience. How is this not a crime?

Rand may be calling it “civil disobedience”, but that’s not what he is actually encouraging.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:29:32am
Sticker shock is fueling consumer anger in auto showrooms.

A New Jersey auto dealer is selling a new Ford Bronco for a staggering 43 percent above the manufacturer’s suggested retail price, as inflation reaches historic levels and auto inventory shortages wreak havoc on consumer wallets.

“We are going to be like Cuba soon,” said one customer at All American Ford in Old Bridge, NJ. “No new cars and we’ll all be driving ‘57 Chevys.”

A New York City man expressed his truckin’ outrage on social media this week after he found a 2021 Ford Bronco at the Old Bridge dealer with a manufacturer’s suggested retail price of $34,855 being sold instead for $49,855 - a “market adjustment” of $15,000.

nypost.com

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:29:48am

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

It is something far more dangerous than that.

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wrenchwench  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:30:48am

re: #135 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Caturday morning brunch.

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My cats would love that. Schrader would like toast, please. Presta will have the butter.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:31:08am

re: #159 Shropshire Slasher

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nypost.com

I’d be happy to drive a ‘57 Chevy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:32:23am

re: #159 Shropshire Slasher

“We are going to be like Cuba soon,” said one customer at All American Ford in Old Bridge, NJ. “No new cars and we’ll all be driving ‘57 Chevys.”

Personally, I’m completely in favor of driving a ‘57 Chevy instead of a brand new vehicle being held hostage to its integrated computers.

At least I know how to fix a ‘57 Chevy.

I look forward to having a Cuba-style vehicle.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:33:27am
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PhillyPretzel  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:33:37am

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

I could get an antique plate for a car like that. That would be cool.

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sagehen  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:34:21am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:34:57am

re: #165 PhillyPretzel

I could get an antique plate for a car like that. That would be cool.

Also, I’ve seen those Cuban cars…mucha chula

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(((Archangel1)))  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:36:47am

Well, there’s a new addiction to add to the list… xD

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Charles Johnson  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:37:11am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:39:08am

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

Personally, I’m completely in favor of driving a ‘57 Chevy instead of a brand new vehicle being held hostage to its integrated computers.

At least I know how to fix a ‘57 Chevy.

I look forward to having a Cuba-style vehicle.

Give me a late 1980s Volvo 240 or 740 series, wagon or sedan. The damn things are well-nigh indestructible.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:40:05am
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:40:50am

re: #159 Shropshire Slasher

Ever since I bought my first car (a used 1984 Buick Regal for $1200 when I was 18) I’ve thoroughly believed that all car salesmen should be hanged. This does nothing to change my long-standing opinion.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:41:42am

jeebus

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:42:31am

re: #170 Dr Lizardo

I should add to that, mid-90s Toyota Camry. Another foolproof car, perhaps one of the all-time greatest commuter vehicles.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:42:41am

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m not, because we’re going to be stuck with nothing but ramshackle shitbox death-traps previously owned by assholes who drove it like it was stolen.

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wrenchwench  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:46:07am

re: #172 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Ever since I bought my first car (a used 1984 Buick Regal for $1200 when I was 18) I’ve thoroughly believed that all car salesmen should be hanged. This does nothing to change my long-standing opinion.

My first: 1964 Falcon $600. I was 17. From my best friend.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:53:59am

re: #105 PhillyPretzel

Even more radical than DT and Company. This is not good.

Night before last, Speaker of the House Trevor Mallard ordered the lawn sprinklers turned on. You don’t mess with Trevor.

Last night it absolutely pissed down with rain. Woke me up (see #101) and I’m not under canvas. They are going to be thoroughly miserable.

Good.

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sagehen  Feb 12, 2022 • 10:54:27am

re: #172 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Ever since I bought my first car (a used 1984 Buick Regal for $1200 when I was 18) I’ve thoroughly believed that all car salesmen should be hanged. This does nothing to change my long-standing opinion.

My first car, also at age 18, I got a GREAT deal. The dealer was a member of our synagogue, the rabbi asked him to cut me a break, he charged me dealer cost. The loan officer at the bank consulted her blue book, eyes opened wide, said OMG you got a bargain, and approved my 90% loan with zero credit history. (a brand-new Mazda GLC, which was later renamed the 323. GLC stood for Great Little Car).

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Decatur Deb  Feb 12, 2022 • 11:02:04am

re: #176 wrenchwench

My first: 1964 Falcon $600. I was 17. From my best friend.

A few years ago I sold a 73 Corolla for $75. It was still running around here a couple years later.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 12, 2022 • 11:08:45am

Wordle 238 3/6

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Feb 12, 2022 • 11:12:27am

Nevermind the current market conditions, I don’t understand buying cars under even the most ideal circumstances. Literally everything else I buy, whether it’s food or the refrigerator to store it in, comes at a fixed price. If I don’t like the price I can fuck off somewhere else and either find it for a better price or give up and give in. But cars? No. You’re expected to “haggle”, knowing full well that the salesperson is deliberately trying to rip you off as hard as possible. You’re expected to be a damned FBI hostage negotiator in order to buy a car without getting tooled like the youngest boy on a pirate ship. Our society somehow thinks this is fine and okay.

My co-worker recently told me about spending 5 hours trying to buy a fucking van. Hay-zeus Harold Christ. I know it’s a major purchase, but if I wanted to spend identical money on dishwashers it wouldn’t take 5 hours of bullshit endurance.

I happen to hate cars, and I resent the fact that my life circumstances are such that I am for all intents and purposes required to own one. Ugh! How do “car people” do it??

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Dragonomics  Feb 12, 2022 • 11:14:01am

re: #156 Hecuba’s daughter

Right you are. Thank you. I wasn’t being very clear. Just reacting in disgust to hypocrisy.

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 12, 2022 • 11:17:08am

Wordle 238 3/6

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Dick(ies) pic.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Feb 12, 2022 • 11:24:38am

Jacinda controls the weather machine!

Loads of sarcastic goodness in the thread.

The unfortunates who drove to the top of the South Island to participate only to find they couldn’t board the ferries without a vaccine pass led to my favourite Twitter hashtag of the year to date: #dumbkirk

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 12, 2022 • 11:28:15am

re: #182 Dragonomics

Right you are. Thank you. I wasn’t being very clear. Just reacting in disgust to hypocrisy.

Almost everyone who supports Trump is a lying hypocrite and racist or a braindead zombie incapable of independent thought. They would all have been eager members of a lynch mob ready to execute someone of a different race or religion, back in the day — and probably even today. They are the ones who the defense attorneys in the Ahmaud Arbery case were trying to reach because the attorneys thought some of the jury included these cult members.

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William Lewis  Feb 12, 2022 • 11:28:57am

Oh, my… my photographer self is wincing with every second…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2022 • 11:30:56am

re: #175 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

repeat from the other day, no problemo from me driving the old stuff:

Me and the ‘47 Chevy heading to the Levee….

And I got even more classic stuff in various stages of restoration…call my place in TheBackwoods “mini-Cuba”…

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Feb 12, 2022 • 11:32:04am

How truckers at the Ambassador Bridge hurt businesses, sparked protests around the world
Losses estimated at $51 million. The big car companies and their suppliers, in particular, should personally sue every participant who can be identified.

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Dangerman  Feb 12, 2022 • 11:35:44am

re: #94 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The 65+ remember it as a Soviet satellite state. Most everyone else has not recollection of that…

Its the vaccination reaction

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 12, 2022 • 11:40:16am

re: #186 William Lewis

re: #186 William Lewis

Not a camera enthusiast by any stretch. But even I was wincing as I watched a fine piece of equipment bouncing down down that hill.

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Dangerman  Feb 12, 2022 • 11:42:17am

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Hes pulling a trump.

*you* go out and protest.
Ill be with you….in spirit

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 12, 2022 • 12:17:43pm

re: #159 Shropshire Slasher

[Embedded content]

nypost.com

The NYpost goes out of there way to find the worst examples of everything. They do not publish anything in good faith.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 12, 2022 • 12:34:54pm

re: #192 I Would Prefer Not To

The NYpost goes out of there way to find the worst examples of everything. They do not publish anything in good faith.

Nor does he.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2022 • 1:02:01pm

re: #192 I Would Prefer Not To

The NYpost goes out of there way to find the worst examples of everything. They do not publish anything in good faith.

re: #193 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Nor does he.

also notice that the graphic prices do not match the text prices in his comment.
complete bullshit scare tactics

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 12, 2022 • 1:02:12pm

re: #153 Belafon

It’s correct in the same sense that someone wants to be called James and not Jim.

I believe that’s whay I said.

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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 12, 2022 • 2:34:07pm

re: #174 Dr Lizardo

I should add to that, mid-90s Toyota Camry. Another foolproof car, perhaps one of the all-time greatest commuter vehicles.

I have 1998 and a 2000 Camry, each with 150K miles. Riding out the used car market. Shoulda listened to my auto expert when he said used car prices were great Mar 2020.


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