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91 comments
1
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2022 • 4:58:59pm

An LGF Easter post:
John Prine’s Jesus: The Missing Years

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:06:48pm

Thread, eight tweets. VOA Ukrainian service reporter noting a Ukrainian radio station’s investigative journalists have found these asses. The eighth tweet is a video in Ukrainian with English subtitles on how they conducted the investigation.

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(((Archangel1)))  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:12:05pm

Got lucky on first go, made the answer seem obvious (getting the 4th letter really narrowed down the possibilities)

Wordle 300 2/6

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🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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Charles Johnson  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:16:35pm

Saw a take on the Elon Musk Buying Twitter thang and it was a very long thread and I agreed with some of it but had major issues with other stuff that seemed incredibly wrong and symptomatic of the problem when people whose politics never outgrew libertarianism approach the topic of content moderation. I was going to post a response but I’d just be saying the shit I’ve been saying for years, and none of these instant experts give a fuck.

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darthstar  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:25:15pm

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Thread, eight tweets. VOA Ukrainian service reporter noting a Ukrainian radio station’s investigative journalists have found these asses. The eighth tweet is a video in Ukrainian with English subtitles on how they conducted the investigation.

[Embedded content]

I hope she knows she’s famous and why. And I hope he gets his dick shot off before he returns home.

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EPR-radar  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:25:31pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

God forbid the expertise of someone who has moderated online content for years be allowed to interfere with Libertarian Dudebro Theory-crafting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:25:34pm
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nines09  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:33:40pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Saw a take on the Elon Musk Buying Twitter thang and it was a very long thread and I agreed with some of it but had major issues with other stuff that seemed incredibly wrong and symptomatic of the problem when people whose politics never outgrew libertarianism approach the topic of content moderation. I was going to post a response but I’d just be saying the shit I’ve been saying for years, and none of these instant experts give a fuck.

An ego like Elon buying Twitter would be like pissing on a third rail.
No good can come of it.

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b.d  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:35:26pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Saw a take on the Elon Musk Buying Twitter thang and it was a very long thread and I agreed with some of it but had major issues with other stuff that seemed incredibly wrong and symptomatic of the problem when people whose politics never outgrew libertarianism approach the topic of content moderation. I was going to post a response but I’d just be saying the shit I’ve been saying for years, and none of these instant experts give a fuck.

If Musk bought Twitter and turned it off then I’d make a statue of him out of something….

Twitter is bad, it’s very bad. Even the people who know it is bad don’t realize how bad it is. It is not reality!

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EPR-radar  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:35:51pm

re: #8 nines09

An ego like Elon buying Twitter would be like pissing on a third rail.
No good can come of it.

Among other things, it seems like Trump would get his twitter account back if Musk were to take over.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:39:24pm

re: #10 EPR-radar

Among other things, it seems like Trump would get his twitter account back if Musk were to take over.

So would all the other Nazis, general-purpose racists, misogynists, haters, stalkers, &c.

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nines09  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:39:39pm

re: #10 EPR-radar

Dudebro would let the fascists run free and unfettered. He’s disturbing in ways I can’t quite put my finger on.
Well one I can.
“Why did Tesla move to Texas?
Tesla first began using Austin as the dateline in press releases in October. One likely contributing factor behind the move is the fact that Musk stands to save an estimated $2.5 billion in capital gains taxes by moving his residence and business from California to Texas”

Texas. Fucking Texas.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:42:43pm

re: #12 nines09

Dudebro would let the fascists run free and unfettered. He’s disturbing in ways I can’t quite put my finger on.
Well one I can.
“Why did Tesla move to Texas?
Tesla first began using Austin as the dateline in press releases in October. One likely contributing factor behind the move is the fact that Musk stands to save an estimated $2.5 billion in capital gains taxes by moving his residence and business from California to Texas”

Texas. Fucking Texas.

Let’s see how many of his employees want to move there, and how many he can get in Texas.

Remember, Musk didn’t even create Tesla. He took it over in a hostile stock acquisition.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:43:49pm

I don’t think this will end up with Musk buying Twitter. But I’ve been wrong before.

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nines09  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:44:19pm

re: #13 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

He made his money the old fashioned way. He jacked somebody.

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EPR-radar  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:44:44pm

re: #12 nines09

Dudebro would let the fascists run free and unfettered. He’s disturbing in ways I can’t quite put my finger on.
Well one I can.
“Why did Tesla move to Texas?
Tesla first began using Austin as the dateline in press releases in October. One likely contributing factor behind the move is the fact that Musk stands to save an estimated $2.5 billion in capital gains taxes by moving his residence and business from California to Texas”

Texas. Fucking Texas.

At first I read your last line as “Taxes. Fucking Taxes.” It works both ways. In Musk’s case, he never could have started Tesla in TX because of some combination of lack of work force and having a commie electric car company firebombed by the local wildlife.

So he started in CA, made a fortune, and now he doesn’t want to pay his fucking taxes. Libertarian are always barbarians.

Edited to add: And he isn’t even a real founder of Tesla. He’s called that because of a settlement with the real founders (who he forced out). Musk was just the first big funder of the company, and he vigorously used the Golden Rule (he who has the Gold makes the Rules) to make himself God-Emperor of Tesla.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:45:47pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

I don’t think this will end up with Musk buying Twitter. But I’ve been wrong before.

That poison pill that Twitter has developed just for him, though…

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darthstar  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:47:08pm

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darthstar  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:47:35pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

I don’t think this will end up with Musk buying Twitter. But I’ve been wrong before.

Wouldn’t it be cheaper for him to buy Russia?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:48:21pm

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

That poison pill that Twitter has developed just for him, though…

Twitter said Friday that its board of directors has unanimously adopted a “poison pill” defense in response to Tesla CEO Elon Musk’s proposal to buy the company and take it private.

The move would allow existing Twitter shareholders - except for Musk - to buy additional shares at a discount, thereby diluting Musk’s stake in the company and making it harder for him to corral a majority of shareholder votes in favor of the acquisition.

Twitter’s plan would take effect if Musk’s roughly 9% stake grows to 15% or more.

The poison pill injects another twist into a melodrama surrounding the possibility of the world’s richest person taking over a social media platform he described Thursday as the world’s “de facto town square.”

Twitter said its plan would reduce the likelihood that any one person can gain control of the company without either paying shareholders a premium or giving the board more time to evaluate an offer. Such defenses, formally called shareholder rights plans, are used to prevent the takeover of a corporation by making any acquisition prohibitively expensive for the bidder.

abc7chicago.com

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:48:28pm

re: #5 darthstar

I hope she knows she’s famous and why. And I hope he gets his dick shot off before he returns home.

I’d kill to hear one of his victims tell him, “Congratulations, you’ve gotten herpes!”
////

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nines09  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:49:28pm

re: #16 EPR-radar

I think the extremely wealthy have a motto.
“Everything is never enough”.

Show biz kids making movies
Of themselves you know they
Don’t give a fuck about anybody else

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Charles Johnson  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:50:50pm
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EPR-radar  Apr 15, 2022 • 5:53:14pm

re: #21 Sherlock Hound

I’d kill to hear one of his victims tell him, “Congratulations, you’ve gotten herpes!”
////

Herpes? No. AIDS.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:00:46pm

These sad photos show destitute Great Depression families waiting for aid, 1937-1939

Two weeks’ worth of relief supplies for four people.

Much more at link.

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darthstar  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:02:15pm

re: #21 Sherlock Hound

I’d kill to hear one of his victims tell him, “Congratulations, you’ve gotten herpes!”
////

I’d prefer he had no victims, and the first person he tries to assault breaks his pencil dick little neck. He’s not a big person.

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sagehen  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:03:36pm

re: #15 nines09

He made his money the old fashioned way. He jacked somebody.

He grew up in apartheid South Africa. His dad owned an emerald mine.

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b.d  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:06:11pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Carlson tells his viewers why they are right while MSNBC tell their viewers why Carlson’s viewers are wrong.

Are we going to keep chasing this horse until there are no democrats left?

Joe Biden is doing a historically incredible job against Putin right now but is sinking every day in the polls. Dems bitch about the right while the right writes the headlines. Influential left wing folks bitch on Twitter. The media do there locker room Twitter talk, the beat goes on.

The real world isn’t Twitter, the right is fighting us on Twitter while taking over every other narrative. Our left wing voices are sucking badly on EVERY front. Whining about how ignorant the populace is on the facts is bs and we deserve to lose if we can’t sell our message.

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nines09  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:07:07pm

re: #27 sagehen

He grew up in apartheid South Africa. His dad owned an emerald mine.

I rest my case.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:14:20pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:14:55pm
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Decatur Deb  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:18:37pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Gladiator movie.

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A Mom Anon  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:19:43pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Dear god. Nothing homoerotic about that, nope. And why is it always the guys who look like soggy shredded wheat the ones who worship this toxic waste dump of fake masculinity? The End Of Men looks like Tucker, exactly like him.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:22:09pm

re: #28 b.d

The real world isn’t Twitter, the right is fighting us on Twitter while taking over every other narrative. Our left wing voices are sucking badly on EVERY front. Whining about how ignorant the populace is on the facts is bs and we deserve to lose if we can’t sell our message.

That’s because conservatives can lie in service to power. They can say literally anything, and their voters will believe it.

For example, this piece running on all FOX local outlets right now, trying to spin up Christians to hate Ukraine.

Russia’s sunken warship may have been carrying piece of ‘True Cross,’ a Christian relic (FOX Los Angeles)

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EPR-radar  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:25:07pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

What the flying fuck did I just watch? Is the Prophet and True Voice of the Pig People really advocating for the fall of civilization on the grounds that superior specimens (i.e., straight, white fundamentalist Christian men) will be the ones to put it back together?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:25:52pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Wow, that doesn’t have gay overtones at ALL.

/

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Decatur Deb  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:26:55pm

re: #36 Eclectic Cyborg

Wow, that doesn’t have gay overtones at ALL.

/

These Axe commercials are getting out of line.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:27:58pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

What’s that bit there where they light up that guy’s bits?

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Decatur Deb  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:28:55pm

re: #38 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

What’s that bit there where they light up that guy’s bits?

RW subtlety.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:30:29pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Youtube Video

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dat_said  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:30:36pm

Look at what most (all?) of you missed out on this week. Forecast is for 2 to 6 more inches in parts of ND to go with the 20 to 30+ inches (with 50+ mph winds) already fallen.

Crazy thing is they had the major highways open to travel by noon today.

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EPR-radar  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:33:04pm

re: #39 Decatur Deb

RW subtlety.

This Tucker Carlson thing makes Ayn Rand’s drivel look subtle.

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Moe Avattar  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:34:09pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Riefenstahl was less racist.

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sagehen  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:35:49pm

re: #34 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Russia’s sunken warship may have been carrying piece of ‘True Cross,’ a Christian relic (FOX Los Angeles)

It didn’t provide a lot of proection, did it?

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EPR-radar  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:35:58pm

re: #43 Moe Avattar

Riefenstahl was less racist.

As movement conservatism is perfected, the Republican Party comes ever closer to being an ideal Nazi Party to enact a 4th Reich.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:36:35pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

If you don’t want to actually watch it, a synopsis:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:40:37pm
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retired cynic  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:41:51pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

whiplash

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:45:48pm

re: #46 No Malarkey!

If you don’t want to actually watch it, a synopsis:

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:48:11pm

I have seen on the news actual cases where people have lost their paid off homes because someone has put a lean on the house without the owner knowing and then claimed the house, but there’s a service called hometitlelock and Newt Gingrich is associated with it. Not the person I would trust to fix anything.

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EPR-radar  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:48:31pm

re: #46 No Malarkey!

Ugh. Surface level mockery of shit like this isn’t helpful. The utterly repulsive message of that video is crystal clear — civilization is ending, and white people must secure the existence of their people and a future for their children after the fall.

It’s especially repulsive once it is noted that white supremacist Republicans are those most likely to end civilization.

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dat_said  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:55:43pm

re: #41 dat_said

Next come the floods. Souris River will definitely flood and will test the flood control improvements made for Minot. Red River may not be as bad as previous years so Fargo and Grand Forks should manage.

It was 25 years ago when they had to evacuate Grand Forks and then blocks of downtown burned surrounded by floodwaters (firefighters couldn’t get to the flames because of the water). Same scenario - April blizzard and quick thaw. We will know in 7 to 10 days.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:55:44pm
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Sherlock Hound  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:58:52pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Tucker’s going to MIT, then?
Men In Tight!
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No Malarkey!  Apr 15, 2022 • 6:59:39pm

Judge Box of Wine worried about illegal immigrant alcoholics

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2022 • 7:02:04pm

re: #55 No Malarkey!

Judge Box of Wine worried about illegal immigrant alcoholics

[Embedded content]

She would have nothing left to drink.

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Crush White Nationalism  Apr 15, 2022 • 7:02:51pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

It’s always the same
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Belafon  Apr 15, 2022 • 7:06:15pm

The Iowa Supreme Court didn’t like the judge’s decision:

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2022 • 7:13:56pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

That white supremacist milk obsession keeps creeping in everywhere.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 15, 2022 • 7:16:15pm
While millions of men served in the U.S. Navy during World War II, tens of thousands of women also enlisted to serve their country. On Saturday, one of those women will celebrate her 100th birthday.

(more)

Iowa Navy WAVES veteran celebrates 100th birthday (Omaha World-Herald)

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 15, 2022 • 7:20:22pm

re: #59 jaunte

The homoerotic, cunnilingual overtones just over tone themselves most loudly!
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Tucker will lose it when this is pointed out!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 15, 2022 • 7:26:30pm

re: #34 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Relics have been a thing in Christianity for what, 19 hundred years?

It’s a never ending scam.

It’s never ending because marks want to believe.

It’s this human trait about which one needs to be diligently aware.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 15, 2022 • 7:33:19pm

I believe I’ve posted a video of him practicing this, some time back, but here he is in front of an audience:

Youtube Video

..

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 15, 2022 • 7:35:52pm

Highway 71, 88 near Kimball reopen Friday (KSID-AM, Sidney, Nebr.)

NE-71 was closed between Kimball and Scottsbluff since Monday. NE-88 was closed between Bridgeport and LaGrange, Wyo since Monday.

A vehicle from FE Warren AFB in Cheyenne crashed on NE-71, sparking a prairie fire. The vehicle was carrying ammunition and grenades. Local fire departments were unable to put out the fire due to high winds and the ammunition. The military blew up the ammunition and grenades, allowing local fire departments to deal with the fire. The vehicle was carted off by the Air Force today.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 15, 2022 • 7:40:45pm
Biology and Geography Teacher Jari Ruohomäki has a hobby of listening to foreign radio stations. The hobby is called dx-listening, and Ruohomäki has been a dx-listener since 1973.

Ruohomäki notified the radio station about his discovery from Finland via email:

“Greetings from Oulu, Finland! My name is Jari Ruohomäki and I send this letter to you because I was able to listen to KSID 1340 AM in Finland with my special equipment. And please note that I picked up your signal by traditional way with a radio receiver and not via Internet!”

Ruohomäki tunes in to radio using his Italian made softa radio Perseus and a copper wire 3,300 feet long pointed towards North America to get a signal.

“It is very important to have a long antenna to a certain direction when one tries to pick up overseas AM stations,” Ruohomäki said.

(more)

Cheyenne County Country live from Finland (KSID-AM, Sidney, Nebr.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 15, 2022 • 7:50:05pm
The Florida Department of Education on Friday said the state will not include dozens of math textbooks in a list used by school districts to buy books for classrooms because their content included references to critical race theory and other “prohibited topics” and “unsolicited strategies.”

The announcement was made in a press release titled “Florida Rejects Publishers’ Attempts to Indoctrinate Students.” It did not include the names of any of the books or provide specific examples of the content that prompted their objections.

The state agency said that 54 of the 132 textbooks that publishers submitted for the state’s review were “impermissible with either Florida’s new standards or contained prohibited topics — the most in Florida’s history.” Most of the books that were not approved were for grades K-5, the statement said.

“Reasons for rejecting textbooks included references to Critical Race Theory (CRT), inclusions of Common Core, and the unsolicited addition of Social Emotional Learning (SEL) in mathematics,” the press release said.

(more)

Florida targets school math textbooks over critical race theory objections (Miami Herald via Yahoo!)

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Apr 15, 2022 • 7:57:23pm

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

So in other words they used a mishmash of the usual bullshit and a complete distain for using modern scientific methods applied to the process of learning.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 15, 2022 • 7:59:23pm

re: #67 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

So in other words they used a mishmash of the usual bullshit and a complete distain for using modern scientific methods applied to the process of learning.

If Big Chalk comes up with a big campaign donation, Florida will outlaw whiteboards and digital displays.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2022 • 8:01:22pm

Here in TheBackwoods we’ve been on a John Prine memory walk tonight for a number of personal reasons, not the least is because he left us 2 years ago last week (April 7, 2020).

Here’s something newer for us:

He worked up the courage to play “Sam Stone” for his brother Dave. “It was just like wow, where did this come from?” said Dave. “Because he’d shown absolutely no singer-songwriter tendencies at all before that. This was clear out of the blue. And evidently he had a bunch of stuff he had done. One of his stories was, on the mail route, they had a central collection box you put your stuff in. And he would get in there and shut the door and work on songs. And it just blew my mind.”

Prine soon got onstage at an open-mic night to test out the songs he’d written while delivering the mail. He was offered a job on the spot. That year, Roger Ebert, who was working as a film critic for the Chicago Sun-Times, walked in and saw Prine for the first time. Ebert wrote a column that ran with the headline “Singing Mailman Who Delivers a Powerful Message in a Few Words.” “I didn’t have an empty seat after that,” Prine said. “Cause of Roger Ebert.”

Donald Trump has made it clear that he’s not a fan of the U.S. Postal Service. He’s called it “a joke,” blocking emergency funding for the service during the Covid-19 pandemic — and in May he installed Louis DeJoy, a wealthy Trump campaign donor, as the new postmaster general. DeJoy has put an end to overtime for postal workers, ordered the removal of sorting machines from post offices, and shuffled the USPS leadership, leading to mail delays and widespread outcry. In his eulogy for civil rights hero John Lewis, former president Barack Obama said Trump was attacking voting rights “with surgical precision, even undermining the Postal Service in the run-up to an election that is going to be dependent on mailed-in ballots so people don’t get sick.”

Prine isn’t here to weigh in on the subject; he died of Covid-19 complications in April. But he often discussed the way that working as a postal carrier gave him the freedom and security to hone his craft as a songwriter. He was just one of countless hard-working Americans who have found a steady job with the USPS, serving a crucial function in our democracy and building a life of dignity for themselves. “I knew until I decided what I wanted to be, it was a good place to be,” Prine said. “Because I didn’t have to worry about any bills or anything. The post office didn’t drive me crazy. I could handle it.”

rollingstone.com

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Crush White Nationalism  Apr 15, 2022 • 8:02:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2022 • 8:02:19pm

The beginnings of John Prine’s empathy is suddenly clear with this:

Youtube Video

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Decatur Deb  Apr 15, 2022 • 8:04:04pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

Here in TheBackwoods we’ve been on a John Prine memory walk tonight for a number of personal reasons, not the least is because he left us 2 years ago last week (April 7, 2020).

Here’s something newer for us:

rollingstone.com

When Charles Bukowski made any money at all, he made it as a postman.

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retired cynic  Apr 15, 2022 • 8:05:31pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s lovely. A dear friend of ours was a country mailman, driving many miles each day. It was more than just a job for him.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 15, 2022 • 8:05:55pm

Post Office
en.wikipedia.org

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 15, 2022 • 8:09:00pm

re: #70 Punish Domestic Terrorists

He was addressing a conservative. The cruelty is always the point.

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EPR-radar  Apr 15, 2022 • 8:24:28pm

re: #70 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I’m old and crusty enough to prefer a more measured delivery style for something like this, since getting that worked up by bigotry is seen as weakness by the bigots, and, more importantly, by too many of the fence-sitters.

But tastes differ, and I hardly think I have the only answers for stuff like this.

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Tahitinho  Apr 15, 2022 • 8:35:08pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

What. The hell. Was that????

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 15, 2022 • 8:44:43pm
The Freedom From Religion Foundation’s objection to daily intercom prayer in a Louisiana elementary school has quickly had the desired effect.

A concerned parent had informed FFRF that Riverbend Elementary School in West Monroe, La., required its students to recite a prayer each day following the Pledge of Allegiance. A different child was reportedly selected every morning to deliver the Pledge and then the prayer over the intercom. The prayer was described as “Student Expression,” but was clearly a prayer and was delivered to “Father God”:

Father God,
Come be with us today.
Fill our Hearts with joy.
Fill our minds with learning.
Fill our classrooms with peace.
Fill our lessons with fun.
Fill our friendships with kindness.
Fill Riverbend Elementary with love.
Amen.

(more)

ffrf.org

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Apr 15, 2022 • 8:45:00pm

Harry and the gang are piling on:

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A Mom Anon  Apr 15, 2022 • 8:47:06pm

re: #46 No Malarkey!

There’s your End Of Men right there. The good news is they hopefully won’t be able to become fathers and pass on their toxic shit to their kids.

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ckkatz  Apr 15, 2022 • 8:52:28pm

re: #79 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

As have others:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 15, 2022 • 8:54:43pm

In good local news, the pain and swelling in my toe is gone.

Someone suggested yesterday that I tape my fourth toe to another, to provide stability. When I gently pulled my toe out, the middle joint popped. Apparently I’d dislocated the toe rather than broke it.

How the Right Is Bringing Christian Prayer Back Into Public Schools (Slate, April 14, 2022)

Conservative judges and lawmakers have recast religious neutrality as anti-Christian bigotry.

On April 25, the Supreme Court will hear Kennedy v. Bremerton School District, a case that was carefully engineered to return prayer to public schools. Kennedy marks an effort to overturn nearly 60 years of precedent protecting schoolchildren from state-sponsored religion by flipping the First Amendment on its head. The case erases the rights of children who wish to avoid religious coercion at school, fixating instead on the right of school officials to practice their religion during the course of their formal duties. It is the culmination of a decadeslong battle to reframe government neutrality toward religion as unconstitutional discrimination against people of faith. And it is chillingly likely to succeed.

It would be a mistake, however, to view Kennedy as a mere doctrinal shift in constitutional law, as radical as that doctrinal shift would be. This case is also the product of the Republican political campaign aimed at restoring public schools’ authority to indoctrinate students with Christianity. The campaign is on the brink of success in the courts because proponents of school prayer have perfected a tactic that reverses the victim and offender.

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ckkatz  Apr 15, 2022 • 8:56:07pm

IANAT (I am not a tanker), and I don’t claim to know enough to make a judgement about this thread, but I did find this commentary on Russian tactics interesting:

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ckkatz  Apr 15, 2022 • 8:59:50pm

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

In good local news, the pain and swelling in my toe is gone.

Someone suggested yesterday that I tape my fourth toe to another, to provide stability. When I gently pulled my toe out, the middle joint popped. Apparently I’d dislocated the toe rather than broke it.

(more)

Good to hear that your toe is healing. Hopefully things turn out swell now that your toe isn’t.

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William Lewis  Apr 15, 2022 • 9:00:25pm

re: #83 ckkatz

IANAT (I am not a tanker), and I don’t claim to know enough to make a judgement about this thread, but I did find this commentary on Russian tactics interesting:

I was.

This rings true and makes some of their stupidity make a certain sad sense.

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ckkatz  Apr 15, 2022 • 9:04:03pm

re: #85 William Lewis

I was.

This rings true and makes some of their stupidity make a certain sad sense.

Thanks!

I was hoping that you would see and comment on this.

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Captain Ron  Apr 15, 2022 • 9:09:07pm
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ckkatz  Apr 15, 2022 • 9:13:13pm

Hmm…

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2022 • 9:14:34pm

Important sidebar to Tucker Carlson’s testosterone lament:

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ckkatz  Apr 15, 2022 • 9:22:52pm
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mmmirele  Apr 15, 2022 • 9:48:17pm

re: #34 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That’s because conservatives can lie in service to power. They can say literally anything, and their voters will believe it.

For example, this piece running on all FOX local outlets right now, trying to spin up Christians to hate Ukraine.

Russia’s sunken warship may have been carrying piece of ‘True Cross,’ a Christian relic (FOX Los Angeles)

Ummm…the only people who might be torqued about it will be the Russian Orthodox. I really can’t see Catholics or the rest of Orthodoxy getting upset about losing a sliver of the “True Cross”. Not a fan of John Calvin, but he was reputed to have said that there was enough wood from “True Cross” relics in churches and monasteries to fill a ship.
As for Evangelicals, they don’t have any truck with icons and relics because it’s too Catholic. And yes, I know Catholics don’t have icons, but your average Evangelical can’t hardly tell the difference between Eastern Orthodoxy and the Roman Catholic Church so it’s all of a piece to them. There are a lot of Evangelicals who still fervently believe Catholics are going to hell.


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