The Death of Women’s Rights in America

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We knew this was coming. The religious fanatics have won.

The Supreme Court on Friday overturned the fundamental right to abortion established nearly 50 years ago in Roe v. Wade, a stunning reversal that could alter the nation’s political landscape and leaves states free to drastically reduce or even outlaw a procedure that abortion rights groups said is key to women’s equality and independence.

“Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak, and the decision has had damaging consequences. And far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue, Roe and Casey have enflamed debate and deepened division,” Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. wrote. “It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives.”

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:29:30am

Because the Constitution makes it hard to correct the corruption of the Supreme Court.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:30:38am

re: #1 Belafon

Because the Constitution makes it hard to correct the corruption of the Supreme Court.

Nobody is even trying.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:30:39am

Susan Collins was misled.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:31:35am

re: #3 Ace Rothstein

Susan Collins was misled.

Why, she might even furrow her brow in consternation!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:31:56am

Current mood:

Youtube Video

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:32:00am

re: #3 Ace Rothstein

This decision is inconsistent with what Justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh said in their testimony and their meetings with me, where they both were insistent on the importance of supporting long-standing precedents that the country has relied upon.”

— Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME), quoted by the New York Times, adding that “throwing out a precedent overnight that the country has relied upon for half a century is not conservative. It is a sudden and radical jolt to the country that will lead to political chaos, anger, and a further loss of confidence in our government.”

Surprised, concerned, or merely performing?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:32:49am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Nobody is even trying.

Obligatory “Fuck Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema!”

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BigPapa  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:33:42am

My wife is crying.

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Camp Waconda  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:34:16am

re: #8 BigPapa

She is not alone.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:35:18am

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:35:36am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:36:23am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

What exactly was the point of that?

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Camp Waconda  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:36:33am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

My eyes have rolled so far in the back of my head I can stare at my pea-sized brain.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:36:33am

re: #10 Dangerman

Background of that pic is this pic

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:38:09am
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DodgerFan1988  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:40:41am
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austin_blue  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:41:42am

Got to beat them at the polls, every time.

Marching doesn’t help, violence doesn’t help, ever, unless the Oligarchs get scared, and they don’t get scared easy. They’ve got the Police to put down violence against them.

Got to beat them at the polls, or Representative Democracy is a pile of rotting meat.

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BeachDem  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:42:27am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Harry Chapin - Dance Band on the Titanic

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:43:29am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

“God Damn America” is more appropriate.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:43:48am

Moving to Hungary is looking more and more appealing.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:44:56am

re: #20 Ace Rothstein

Moving to Hungary is looking more and more appealing.

Is America just not fascist enough for you?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:46:33am

re: #20 Ace Rothstein

Moving to Hungary is looking more and more appealing.

Hungary is a quasi-fascist state. If you wanna move to Europe, Czech Republic would be a far better choice. Or Germany. Or one of the Scandinavian lands.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:47:59am

I think everyone’s sarcasm detector is off today.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:47:59am
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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:48:27am

Thread.

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:49:13am

re: #23 Ace Rothstein

I think everyone’s sarcasm detector is off today.

Prolly too soon.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:50:46am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:51:50am

So I just checked my social feeds and yeah, I sense a lot unfriending/unfollowing is happening this weekend (both for me and a lot of other people).

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:54:41am

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:55:53am

I’m no fan of violence.

But people are being pushed too far. This can’t continue.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:58:00am

re: #30 Charles Johnson

Unfortunately, I don’t think violence will change the 6-3 majority on SCOTUS, or the fact that Manchin and Sinema won’t do the right fucking thing.

This IS a time for action. I’m just not sure what that looks like yet.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:02:16am

cavalierly saying ‘you can just give it up for adoption’ (yeah, they say ‘it’)

ignores so much

like having to go through the 9 months
and the health issues and risks
and the costs

and mostly that living the rest of your life with the ‘trauma’ of knowing you birthed a child and let it go is somehow nothing in comparison to the total devastating to your psyche from taking a Plan B pill

the inhumanity is the point

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BigPapa  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:03:32am

Action is getting non voters to vote. Also, the aloof sleepy faces in our own camp who thought Roe V Wade would never be overturned and still believe in bipartasanship.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:03:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:03:40am

CL’d downstairs:

re: #411 Eclectic Cyborg

And over a year to seat Scalias.

Which goes to prove that, despite all the whining, it would have made no difference at all if RGB had retired.

re: #416 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

They have.
Watch Live: Protests Erupt at Supreme Court After Abortion Case Ruling

News updates: Seattle reacts to Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade ruling and what it means for abortion locally

watching right now and…gee…I see no fences being torn down, no windows being smashed, no police being stabbed at with flagpoles.

What kind of legitimate political discourse protest is this???

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:03:57am

this court basically has said “previous courts dont matter, we’re the court, we can do what we want.”

because we’re the court.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:05:13am

re: #32 Dangerman

cavalierly saying ‘you can just give it up for adoption’ (yeah, they say ‘it’)

ignores so much

like having to go through the 9 months
and the health issues and risks
and the costs

and mostly that living the rest of your life with the ‘trauma’ of knowing you birthed a child and let it go is somehow nothing in comparison to the total devastating to your psyche from taking a Plan B pill

the inhumanity is the point

Adoption isn’t an option when it’s an ectopic pregnancy or the fetus is stillborn and poses an immediate threat to the mother’s life.

This decision ignores my religious beliefs - that a fetus is not a person until born alive and that the mother’s life is sacrosanct. Rather, these Christian extremists have imposed their religious beliefs on everyone else.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:05:19am
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JC1  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:05:44am

re: #22 Dr Lizardo

Hungary is a quasi-fascist state. If you wanna move to Europe, Czech Republic would be a far better choice. Or Germany. Or one of the Scandinavian lands.

Southern Spain or Portugal for the climate and laid back lifestyle.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:06:43am

re: #3 Ace Rothstein

Susan Collins was misled.

re: #4 Dr Lizardo

Why, she might even furrow her brow in consternation!

GOP Sen. Collins puts her Bangor home up for sale

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:08:33am

re: #28 Eclectic Cyborg

I already did it two days ago.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:09:18am

Today is why all the “heroic” Republican witnesses at the J6 hearing would vote for Trump again.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:10:24am

re: #38 jaunte

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Someone will have to explain how codifying into law would work.

scotus just said there’s no right so wouldnt they declare any law unconstitutional?

After all , they are the court

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:10:41am

Texas has a trigger law that goes into effect in thirty days. There are zero exceptions in this law, so if your pregnancy is going to kill you, tough shit. Thoughts and prayers.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:11:23am

re: #42 Teddy’s Person

And when their own daughters and granddaughters die of legally untreatable ectopic pregnancies, they’ll mumble something about God’s will be done and go on with their business, because, priorities.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:12:17am

re: #45 jaunte

And when their own daughters and granddaughters die of legally untreatable ectopic pregnancies, they’ll mumble something about God’s will be done and go on with their business, because, priorities.

They won’t because they can afford to bring them to safe states to save their lives.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:12:49am

re: #45 jaunte

If ending Roe was god’s will, what were the 49 years of Roe all about?

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:12:49am

re: #46 GlutenFreeJesus

When an ectopic pregnancy ruptures, there isn’t time to do that.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:14:01am

This law is conceived and executed in ignorance of biology.

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:14:16am

re: #32 Dangerman

cavalierly saying ‘you can just give it up for adoption’ (yeah, they say ‘it’)

ignores so much

like having to go through the 9 months
and the health issues and risks
and the costs

and mostly that living the rest of your life with the ‘trauma’ of knowing you birthed a child and let it go is somehow nothing in comparison to the total devastating to your psyche from taking a Plan B pill

the inhumanity is the point

Dehumanizing women is the point.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:14:23am

Democrats should present one bill codifying abortion, gay rights, and the right to marry from a different race (I hate using that term).

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:14:44am

Being an Instagram model and “influencer” probably didn’t help with her mental health issues.

Niece Waidhofer, a model and social media influencer, has died by suicide at age 31.

Waidhofer’s family confirmed the news on Thursday to TMZ, saying, “Sadly, Niece took her own life after a long battle with mental health issues.”

The model was discovered in her home in Houston, Texas after law enforcement completed a welfare check requested by a “concerned family member” last month, TMZ reported.

“She was very open with her followers about her struggles, even wanting to help followers who also suffered,” her family told the outlet.

They added that Waidhofer was “more than her struggles.”

“She was beautiful and kind, sensitive and funny, creative and talented, generous and compassionate, thoughtful and challenging,” her family shared.

Model Niece Waidhofer Died by Suicide at 31 After ‘Long Battle with Mental Health Issues’ (People)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:15:16am

From the local ABC channel website:

Mississippi is one of 13 states with what’s known as a trigger law. That means with Friday’s decision from the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade, abortion access is almost immediately banned across the state.

Mississippi put its version of a trigger law on the books in 2007 with a bill authored by Sen. Joey Fillingane. It’s not an automatic. It includes a certification step from the Attorney General within 10 days of the court’s decision.

“It’s no decision making authority involved in that certification process, it’s just a legality,” explained Sen. Fillingane. “She would have a period to certify that, in fact, the opinion has been issued, that it is been filed in the court clerk’s office, and that is now the law of the land.”

Fillingane says it was a backstop to avoid rushing back for a vote if the court ruled down the road.

“The idea is that we’re only in session 90 days out of the year, typically the first quarter of the year,” he explained. “And typically, the Supreme Court decisions of this magnitude are typically handed down, and the end of June… we wouldn’t be in session again for another half a year.”

There are two exceptions in that law, rape when there’s a formal charge and protection of the life of the mother. But…

“There won’t be a place for anybody to say, ‘Oh, I’m going to use the exception to go down to the clinic,’” said Fillingane, when referencing the rape exception in particular. “The clinic is not going to be there.”

“What that means for Mississippians is the nearest clinic outside of Florida if you are over 15 weeks means that you will have to travel the closest clinic will be in Granite City, Illinois,” said Michelle Colon, Executive Director and Co-Founder of SHERo Mississippi. “That is a city or suburb on the other side of the line of St. Louis.”

Groups like SHERo Mississippi are working on organizing the resources necessary for reaching those out of state locations.

I just don’t even know what to say.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:15:46am

re: #47 Ace Rothstein

If ending Roe was god’s will, what were the 49 years of Roe all about?

A test of faith. No, seriously - that’s what they’ll say.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:15:48am

re: #47 Ace Rothstein

If ending Roe was god’s will, what were the 49 years of Roe all about?

It’s a god that has been defeated by iron chariots in the past. Don’t believe the hype from its supporters.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:16:18am
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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:16:39am

re: #43 Dangerman

And ps they just did it with the gun bill.
castrated it before it even got voted on

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:17:11am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:17:58am

re: #58 Charles Johnson

That always was their endgame.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:18:51am

re: #56 jaunte

And there it is.

Thomas and his ilk are going to impose their particular religious doctrines on everyone else using the power of the Supreme Court.

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:18:57am
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Sherlock Hound  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:19:41am

re: #32 Dangerman

“If you can retrieve the ectopic fetus out of my dead uterus, you can adopt it!”

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:20:21am

re: #54 Dopamine Fish

A test of faith. No, seriously - that’s what they’ll say.

God made all those “babbies” die to test our faith?
What a jerk

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Orange Impostor  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:20:29am

re: #30 Charles Johnson

I’m no fan of violence.

But people are being pushed too far. This can’t continue.

The violence will be coming from the right, as this decision has emboldened them to escalate. I fully expect a clinic providing women’s reproductive services to be firebombed and/or a doctor providing abortion services to be murdered before the end of summer.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:21:29am

re: #56 jaunte

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like i said, this court believes all previousLy empaneled courts are null and void

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austin_blue  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:22:15am

re: #45 jaunte

And when their own daughters and granddaughters die of legally untreatable ectopic pregnancies, they’ll mumble something about God’s will be done and go on with their business, because, priorities.

That girl will be on the first flight from Austin to Denver for a “Girl’s Weekend” with Mom.

It’s the poor who will suffer.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:22:53am

re: #58 Charles Johnson

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Lets call it what it is. JOKEUS

Well done John “balls and strikes” roberts

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:23:05am

re: #66 austin_blue

That girl will be on the first flight from Austin to Denver for a “Girl’s Weekend” with Mom.

It’s the poor who will suffer.

For the GOP, this is a feature and not a bug.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:23:48am

re: #49 jaunte

This right here. I swear to god so many adult humans who should be at least somewhat educated on human biology have no clue how babies are made beyond sexual contact. Nothing about women’s biology, what it takes a body to recover from pregnancy, hell I would bet a fair number of right wing women even have a clue about their own bodies.

Men’s bodies and their functions never seem to require laws about their medical care, ever. This is about punishment, control and hatred of women for just existing and I am so fucking tired of it I could scream. This has been going on the entire 62 years of my existence and it’s heartbreaking and exhausting. No wonder we’re all just barely crawling along. The country is a mess and as a result many, many lives are too. And it’s this half assed, sadisticly conservative bullshit that’s the cause. We are going to have to fight back harder than they do or we’re done as a country. United States? Since when? We haven’t been United maybe even ever, I am too exhausted, anxious and scared to death to dig much deeper right now. I just want a few days without something to cry nonstop about. Fuck.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:23:56am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:23:57am

Jamie Raskin is NOT taking MTGs shit today.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:24:22am

I guess it’s going to cost more money for Republican men to get abortions for their mistresses.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:25:28am

Ron makes a good point here:

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:25:38am

re: #71 Eclectic Cyborg

Jamie Raskin is NOT taking MTGs shit today.

Good. I hate that c u next Tuesday.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:25:51am

re: #66 austin_blue

I base my comments on ectopic pregnancies on the one my wife had in the early 80’s.
She thought she had indigestion at 11pm. Couldn’t sleep. Pain at midnight, bad enough to call an ambulance. Ambulance to hospital by 12:45, and she went straight to the operating room where Dr. Ed Zabrek saved her life over the next 4 hours.
A lot of women, even wealthy conservative women, are going to die because the doctors will be legally prevented from that lifesaving surgery.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:26:05am

re: #61 The GOP is a racist terrorist organization

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This is what an out of control legislating from the bench court looks like

They are an extension of the legislature. Unelected in and can’t be voted out

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:26:39am

The notion that all overturning Roe will do is return the abortion issue to the states is bad faith posturing.

There will be a nationwide ban on abortion the next time the GOP secures the trifecta.

In fact, it will be their first item of business.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:29:13am

re: #45 jaunte

And when their own daughters and granddaughters die of legally untreatable ectopic pregnancies, they’ll mumble something about God’s will be done and go on with their business, because, priorities.

Nope. Their’s get transported to another state (or country) where it is legal and can get taken care of.

This is all about punishing other people.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:29:40am

re: #74 Ace Rothstein

Good. I hate that c u next Tuesday.

There’s no need for gendered insults when dealing with a stupid asshole like Marge, or ever, really.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:30:09am

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

Unfortunately, I don’t think violence will change the 6-3 majority on SCOTUS, or the fact that Manchin and Sinema won’t do the right fucking thing.

This IS a time for action. I’m just not sure what that looks like yet.

I don’t want to get banned here.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:30:42am

re: #77 The GOP is a racist terrorist organization

The notion that all overturning Roe will do is return the abortion issue to the states is bad faith posturing.

There will be a nationwide ban on abortion the next time the GOP secures the trifecta.

In fact, it will be their first item of business.

If they do. They attempted a coup, then made America more theocratic than Ireland is. I expect a backlash.

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ericblair  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:31:00am

re: #73 Eclectic Cyborg

Ron makes a good point here:

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Wonder what female enrollment at Texas, Georgia, Florida universities is going to be like in September.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:31:14am

re: #80 Hecuba’s daughter

I don’t want to get banned here.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:32:57am

This shit goes down and then I found out that Kid Rock’s loser drunk ass is in my town tonight. Every MAGAt within 150 miles will be here.

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:33:30am

re: #69 A Mom Anon

You might recall that the R’s in one state, I can’t remember which one, had written the law so that it would be required to “reimplant” a fetus in another human’s uterus.

That is not possible.
Not a bit possible with modern medical knowledge.
Not. Possible.

This is the level of understanding that Republicans have, males and even females alike (What, you think MTG, Boebert or even Collins are knowledgeable feminists? Pull the other one…)

(I sarcastically suggested that unwanted fetuses be implanted in the rectums of Republican lawmakers. Plenty of room there. And much laughs in the cloak rooms.)

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:33:33am

re: #78 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Nope. Their’s get transported to another state (or country) where it is legal and can get taken care of.

This is all about punishing other people.

This is part of the mistake they’re making in their ignorance. An ectopic pregnancy can occur and burst the fallopian tube before a woman even knows she’s pregnant. No time to go somewhere to fix it, no matter how rich you are.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:33:51am

re: #84 Ace Rothstein

This shit goes down and then I found out that Kid Rock’s loser drunk ass is in my town tonight. Every MAGAt within 150 miles will be here.

How big of a draw is he?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:34:59am

re: #86 jaunte

This is part of the mistake they’re making in their ignorance. An ectopic pregnancy can occur and burst the fallopian tube before a woman even knows she’s pregnant. No time to go somewhere to fix it, no matter how rich you are.

I guess those do get written off as acceptable losses for the Tree of Liberty Evangelical Christian Authoritarianism.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:35:02am
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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:35:22am
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:35:37am

re: #87 Belafon

How big of a draw is he?

In Texas?? It’ll be a bigger sell out than Pink Floyd in their prime.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:38:36am

re: #73 Eclectic Cyborg

Ron makes a good point here:

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California, New York, and Illinois have top universities and they protect women. Unfortunately the evil gun decision applied to them too.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:39:00am

re: #71 Eclectic Cyborg

Jamie Raskin is NOT taking MTGs shit today.

My representative. He’s awesome.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:39:42am

remember after ‘the leak’ all that nonsense about Roberts making it a 5/4 and all the intrigue and subterfuge and musing and gaming it out

good times

all bullshit

and a waste of energy

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:39:42am

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

Unfortunately, I don’t think violence will change the 6-3 majority on SCOTUS, or the fact that Manchin and Sinema won’t do the right fucking thing.

This IS a time for action. I’m just not sure what that looks like yet.

Donate to Democratic candidates, volunteer to work for Democratic and voter registration campaigns, and vote, and encourage others to vote. If you live in a blue state, lobby your representatives to pass legislation to protect reproductive rights.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:40:04am

re: #75 jaunte

I base my comments on ectopic pregnancies on the one my wife had in the early 80’s.
She thought she had indigestion at 11pm. Couldn’t sleep. Pain at midnight, bad enough to call an ambulance. Ambulance to hospital by 12:45, and she went straight to the operating room where Dr. Ed Zabrek saved her life over the next 4 hours.
A lot of women, even wealthy conservative women, are going to die because the doctors will be legally prevented from that lifesaving surgery.

Savita’s death changed Ireland. Maybe it will take such deaths to change some voter minds.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:40:32am

re: #85 Sherlock Hound

You might recall that the R’s in one state, I can’t remember which one, had written the law so that it would be required to “reimplant” a fetus in another human’s uterus.

That is not possible.
Not a bit possible with modern medical knowledge.
Not. Possible.

This is the level of understanding that Republicans have, males and even females alike (What, you think MTG, Boebert or even Collins are knowledgeable feminists? Pull the other one…)

(I sarcastically suggested that unwanted fetuses be implanted in the rectums of Republican lawmakers. Plenty of room there. And much laughs in the cloak rooms.)

That would be Ohio.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:41:18am
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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:41:43am

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

CL’d downstairs:

Which goes to prove that, despite all the whining, it would have made no difference at all if RGB had retired.

watching right now and…gee…I see no fences being torn down, no windows being smashed, no police being stabbed at with flagpoles.

What kind of legitimate political discourse protest is this???

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:42:27am

re: #92 Hecuba’s daughter

California, New York, and Illinois have top universities and they protect women. Unfortunately the evil gun decision applied to them too.

Massachusetts.

My alma mater, Salem State University, was and is an extremely popular school amongst foreign students, most of whom are not elite. I’ll even say that this is a net gain for the world that I’m particularly proud of!

They’ll feel it, as will the Ivys.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:42:37am

“About two of 100 pregnancies are an ectopic pregnancy. “
merckmanuals.com

Prolifers are celebrating a death sentence today.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:43:15am

“Pregnancy is less likely to occur when an IUD is in place (fewer than 1.5% of women become pregnant). However, if pregnancy does occur, about 5% of them are ectopic.”
merckmanuals.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:43:42am

re: #86 jaunte

This is part of the mistake they’re making in their ignorance. An ectopic pregnancy can occur and burst the fallopian tube before a woman even knows she’s pregnant. No time to go somewhere to fix it, no matter how rich you are.

Not just ectopic pregnancies. The Savita situation. She was too ill to be transported elsewhere, though it was perfectly legal to make those arrangements.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:43:56am

I cant even hardly face my wife right now. We men did this to women. Those of us that respect womens rights are neither vocal nor numerous enough to prevent all this. I feel ashamed and inadequate.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:44:04am

“Symptoms of ectopic pregnancy vary and may not occur until the structure containing the ectopic pregnancy ruptures. Most women have vaginal bleeding or spotting, cramping or pain in the lower abdomen, or both. Menstrual periods may or may not be late or missed. Some women do not suspect that they are pregnant.”
merckmanuals.com

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:45:03am

re: #104 Rightwingconspirator

I cant even hardly face my wife right now. We men did this to women. Those of us that respect womens rights are neither vocal nor numerous enough to prevent all this. I feel ashamed and inadequate.

Mrs. Fish came in and told me, “I heard about the decision. I don’t even want to talk about it, I’m just so angry right now, my brain is racing.”

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:45:14am
108
Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:45:41am

re: #104 Rightwingconspirator

I cant even hardly face my wife right now. We men did this to women. Those of us that respect womens rights are neither vocal nor numerous enough to prevent all this. I feel ashamed and inadequate.

Women did this to women as well. Let’s not go misandrist over this.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:47:01am

re: #104 Rightwingconspirator

I cant even hardly face my wife right now. We men did this to women. Those of us that respect womens rights are neither vocal nor numerous enough to prevent all this. I feel ashamed and inadequate.

Not all men. NOT all of us. There’s still plenty of us on the right side of this fight and we’re going to do whatever we can to keep the women we care about safe.

You are NOT inadequate. You did NOT do this.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:47:08am

re: #104 Rightwingconspirator

I cant even hardly face my wife right now. We men did this to women. Those of us that respect womens rights are neither vocal nor numerous enough to prevent all this. I feel ashamed and inadequate.

Please don’t feel that way. There are lots of forced-birth women who contributed to this travesty and lots of pro-choice men who support women’s bodily autonomy and rights.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:49:58am

re: #110 Teddy’s Person

Please don’t feel that way. There are lots of forced-birth women who contributed to this travesty and lots of pro-choice men who support women’s bodily autonomy and rights.

The vocal anti-abortion women I know are all women.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:50:01am

re: #45 jaunte

And when their own daughters and granddaughters die of legally untreatable ectopic pregnancies, they’ll mumble something about God’s will be done and go on with their business, because, priorities.

pre-eclampsia deaths will become common again

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:50:29am

re: #107 jaunte

Pro life? HA

HAHAHAHAHAHA

They aren’t pro life. They are forced birth extremists that do not care how many die after the woman is forced to carry the fetus to term. They don’t care about the child’s health, education, wellbeing, housing, or anything else. They want and need cannon fodder and ignorant know nothings who’ll do as the elites insist without question. That these decisions disproportionately harm persons of color, and the poor is a feature, not a bug.

Same as with the decisions to limit Miranda, the 100 mile border exclusion zone search/seizures recompense, etc. Those who are least able to endure burdens are the ones that the Court is maximizing harms upon.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:50:34am

re: #86 jaunte

This is part of the mistake they’re making in their ignorance. An ectopic pregnancy can occur and burst the fallopian tube before a woman even knows she’s pregnant. No time to go somewhere to fix it, no matter how rich you are.

Acceptable losses when you consider how many babies will be saved.///

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:50:46am

re: #46 GlutenFreeJesus

They won’t because they can afford to bring them to safe states to save their lives.

oh no…they will have a private doctor on call who makes discrete housecalls…for a price.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:50:50am

Conservatives’ mistresses are disposable.

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JC1  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:51:18am

re: #77 The GOP is a racist terrorist organization

The notion that all overturning Roe will do is return the abortion issue to the states is bad faith posturing.

There will be a nationwide ban on abortion the next time the GOP secures the trifecta.

In fact, it will be their first item of business.

Nah, Mitch will bring it up for a vote, and then blame the filibuster when it fails. Abortion rights have too much support to outright get banned.

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prairiefire  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:51:53am

When the republican families start to find daughters dead after a bleed out from a botched abortion…

I’m furious. How cavalier of the court. How utterly oblivious what this will do to millions of women.

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Sinistershade  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:53:17am

re: #43 Dangerman

Someone will have to explain how codifying into law would work.

scotus just said there’s no right so wouldnt they declare any law unconstitutional?

After all , they are the court

The decision says there is no constitutional right to abortion. That just means that states (and the federal government, for that matter) will no longer have abortion restrictions struck down in court on the basis that the Constitution guarantees abortion access. In effect, it throws the question of abortion to the legislatures, state and federal.

A federal statute requiring states to allow abortions would be unaffected. Unless states found a basis, presumably a constitutional basis, why such a statute was improper and got a federal court to strike it down.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:55:41am

re: #96 Hecuba’s daughter

Decades of dead kids in schools didn’t change things with guns.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:55:47am

re: #119 Sinistershade

The decision says there is no constitutional right to abortion. That just means that states (and the federal government, for that matter) will no longer have abortion restrictions struck down in court on the basis that the Constitution guarantees abortion access. In effect, it throws the question of abortion to the legislatures, state and federal.

A federal statute requiring states to allow abortions would be unaffected. Unless states found a basis, presumably a constitutional basis, why such a statute was improper and got a federal court to strike it down.

This court would find a federal statute protecting abortion rights unconstitutional.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:56:32am

re: #120 GlutenFreeJesus

Decades of dead kids in schools didn’t change things with guns.

There’s no constitutional amendment guaranteeing abortion access.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:56:33am

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:56:46am

We have a tendency here of talking ourselves into despair. Make sure the furthest you go is anger.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:56:54am

re: #121 No Malarkey!

This court would find a federal statute protecting abortion rights unconstitutional.

“Because the right to an abortion is not deeply rooted in American tradition, nor fundamental to an orderly society, we find that the law as written is unconstitutional. We reverse and remand to the appeals court.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:57:10am

GOD DOG

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:57:53am
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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:00:31pm

re: #125 Dopamine Fish

“Because the right to an abortion is not deeply rooted in American tradition, nor fundamental to an orderly society, we find that the law as written is unconstitutional. We reverse and remand to the appeals court.”

The reason would be because federal government lacks constitutional authority to regulate abortion. Lots of federal laws are based on the Commerce Clause, and they would say abortion doesn’t effect interstate commerce.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:00:53pm

re: #127 No Malarkey!

“LEGAL Abortion is, for all intents & purposes, over in the Commonwealth.”

Edited to reflect reality.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:01:01pm

Based on CDC data of 6,369,000 U.S. pregnancies a year, with 2% of those ectopic:
about 12,000 new unnecessary deaths a year. Praise the bloody Lord.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:02:09pm

Too pissed off to spell.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:02:18pm

re: #130 jaunte

Base on CDC data of 6,369,000 U.S. pregnancies a year, with 2% of those ectopic:
about 12,000 new unnecessary deaths a year. Praise the bloody Lord.

Tis God’s Will.//

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:03:31pm

Can any of the various religious freedom laws be turned on their head by a non-Christian woman claiming a religious right to get an abortion?

Though I expect that even if they could win such a case there would not be ready access to a clinic or doctor and hospital to get the procedure done.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:04:10pm

re: #119 Sinistershade

The decision says there is no constitutional right to abortion. That just means that states (and the federal government, for that matter) will no longer have abortion restrictions struck down in court on the basis that the Constitution guarantees abortion access. In effect, it throws the question of abortion to the legislatures, state and federal.

A federal statute requiring states to allow abortions would be unaffected. Unless states found a basis, presumably a constitutional basis, why such a statute was improper and got a federal court to strike it down.

They’d have to try to argue against the Supremacy Clause. Not that I wouldn’t put that past them, mind you.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:04:30pm

re: #133 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Can any of the various religious freedom laws be turned on their head by a non-Christian woman claiming a religious right to get an abortion?

Though I expect that even if they could win such a case there would not be ready access to a clinic or doctor and hospital to get the procedure done.

A lawsuit has been filed by a Jewish group, I think a synagogue, stating exactly that.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:05:35pm

re: #128 No Malarkey!

The reason would be because federal government lacks constitutional authority to regulate abortion. Lots of federal laws are based on the Commerce Clause, and they would say abortion doesn’t effect interstate commerce.

Except for the part where women are now going to travel to other states, or get pills in the mail.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:06:20pm
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Sinistershade  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:06:46pm

re: #82 ericblair

Wonder what female enrollment at Texas, Georgia, Florida universities is going to be like in September.

My daughter enters the University of Arkansas next week. Arkansas has a trigger law, so as of this morning abortions are banned there. The reality is that all the arrangements for college are so complex that today’s decision won’t change her path. But I’m terrified.

Certainly, though, the decision will give pause to many who are at an earlier point in their planning.

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Orange Impostor  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:07:02pm

Fifty years from now, the Roberts Supreme Court will be widely viewed as the worst seated court in American history, even more so than the Roger Taney court that handed down Dred Scott. The reason for this is that Dred Scott merely denied a group of people Constitutional protections, while overturning of the Roe v Wade decision actively removed established Constitutional rights to over half of the American people.

However, this is dependent on whether the fascists actually succeed in taking over the country, because if that happens, then there won’t be any historical review.

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danarchy  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:07:08pm

re: #130 jaunte

Base on CDC data of 6,369,000 U.S. pregnancies a year, with 2% of those ectopic:
about 12,000 new unnecessary deaths a year. Praise the bloody Lord.

I think more than half of those pregnancies would be in blue states so you probably have to cut those numbers in half at least, but the point stands.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:07:28pm

re: #119 Sinistershade

The decision says there is no constitutional right to abortion. That just means that states (and the federal government, for that matter) will no longer have abortion restrictions struck down in court on the basis that the Constitution guarantees abortion access. In effect, it throws the question of abortion to the legislatures, state and federal.

A federal statute requiring states to allow abortions would be unaffected. Unless states found a basis, presumably a constitutional basis, why such a statute was improper and got a federal court to strike it down.

that second paragraph is where i was going.
they will no doubt ‘find’ a basis.

because there is no way (imo) if congress actually was able to pass a law that all of a sudden all the anti-abortionists would collectively shrug and go ‘well the law’s the law’ and drop it

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austin_blue  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:07:37pm

re: #75 jaunte

I base my comments on ectopic pregnancies on the one my wife had in the early 80’s.
She thought she had indigestion at 11pm. Couldn’t sleep. Pain at midnight, bad enough to call an ambulance. Ambulance to hospital by 12:45, and she went straight to the operating room where Dr. Ed Zabrek saved her life over the next 4 hours.
A lot of women, even wealthy conservative women, are going to die because the doctors will be legally prevented from that lifesaving surgery.

Oh, I know it. But that’s just “bad luck” or “God’s will”, according to the Texas Leg.

I had a dear friend who suffered a ruptured ovarian cyst (a haploid ovum that just decided to start growing insider her ovary), and it damn near killed her.

I was just trying to make the point that Texas’ law was going to impact the poor more than suburban women, who still might pull the R lever this fall in spite of the “inconvenience” of that daughter/mom weekend in Denver.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:07:53pm

re: #134 Dr Lizardo

They’d have to try to argue against the Supremacy Clause. Not that I wouldn’t put that past them, mind you.

See my post #128 above. This Court would hold that Congress lacks constitutional authority to pass a law protecting abortion rights.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:08:05pm

re: #117 JC1

Nah, Mitch will bring it up for a vote, and then blame the filibuster when it fails. Abortion rights have too much support to outright get banned.

Uh, eliminating the filibuster will be that reptile’s first order of business in January.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:08:35pm

re: #136 Belafon

Except for the part where women are now going to travel to other states, or get pills in the mail.

This Court is very good at ignoring inconvenient facts.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:08:55pm

re: #140 danarchy

Also, since I’m not adding in all the other complications, that number is likely low.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:09:46pm
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Sherlock Hound  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:11:15pm

re: #126 Eclectic Cyborg

“You’re on!”

These are the same people who keep their firearms handy so that their little boys might find them and splatter their little brains all over the living room.

Since they care that little for them, and say that it’s “God’s Will”, I can only agree. I’m not the one handing them the gun.

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:11:48pm

re: #122 Eclectic Cyborg

There’s no constitutional amendment guaranteeing abortion access.

I would think the 13th Amendment guarantees that I not be required to provide gestation and labor against my will.

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EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:12:32pm

re: #118 prairiefire

When the republican families start to find daughters dead after a bleed out from a botched abortion…

I’m furious. How cavalier of the court. How utterly oblivious what this will do to millions of women.

The GOP hacks on SCOTUS aren’t oblivious. “Feature, not a bug” etc.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:12:32pm

re: #143 No Malarkey!

See my post #128 above. This Court would hold that Congress lacks constitutional authority to pass a law protecting abortion rights.

Then we’ll need a Constitutional amendment - a right to privacy amendment.

Barring that, sadly….Maybe the differences really are too great for us, as a society, to overcome. One the one hand, we have people who want to be free to live their lives as they see fit, and on the other hand, we have people who seek to impose their particular religious sectarian views on everyone.

A country divided against itself cannot stand. As true today as it was when those words were first spoken.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:12:57pm

So Marge thinks kids should be armed? Anyone remember when a few years ago a Jersey family went to a shooting range in Arizona and they let their nine-year-old daughter shoot an Uzi? It didn’t end well for the gun instructor.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:13:29pm

re: #149 sagehen

I would think the 13th Amendment guarantees that I not be required to provide gestation and labor against my will.

Only if you’re a black male. //

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:13:48pm

re: #144 Ace Rothstein

Uh, eliminating the filibuster will be that reptile’s first order of business in January.

As a Kentuckian, I have to disagree. Mitch has no core principles, other than money and power. He doesn’t give a rat’s ass about abortion. He only wants to do two things in the Senate: pass tax cuts for rich republican donors, and confirm Federalist Society judges to legislate from the bench. He will keep the filibuster, because it blocks progressive legislation, but is not a hindrance to the only two things he wants to do.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:14:15pm

re: #152 Ace Rothstein

So Marge thinks kids should be armed? Anyone remember when a few years ago a Jersey family went to a shooting range in Arizona and they let their nine-year-old daughter shoot an Uzi? It didn’t end well for the gun instructor.

Columbine.

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:15:17pm

re: #133 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Can any of the various religious freedom laws be turned on their head by a non-Christian woman claiming a religious right to get an abortion?

Though I expect that even if they could win such a case there would not be ready access to a clinic or doctor and hospital to get the procedure done.

Jews can always find a doctor, right in our very own congregation. Look, there’s one now. And another. And another. And another. And a similar number of lawyers, should any of this end up in a courtroom…

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:15:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:18:04pm

re: #102 jaunte

“Pregnancy is less likely to occur when an IUD is in place (fewer than 1.5% of women become pregnant). However, if pregnancy does occur, about 5% of them are ectopic.”
merckmanuals.com

well, that’s not surprising if 2 out of every 100 pregnancies are ectopic, that would skew the apparent occurrence rate for IUD pregnanicies, since IUDs generally prevent implantation in the uterus but would have no impact on fallopian tubes.

OTH, I am not a doctor, just a woman who has more than a passing knowledge how my body parts function.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:19:27pm
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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:19:28pm

James Comey shares a huge amount of the blame for this:

October Surprise is a pulsating narrative of an agency seized with righteous certainty that waded into the most important political moment in the life of the nation, and has no idea how to back out with dignity. So it doggedly stands its ground, compounding its error. In a momentous display of self-preservation, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, and key Justice Department officials decide to protect their own reputations rather than save the democratic process. Once they make that determination, the race is lost for Clinton, who is helpless in front of their accusation even though she has not intended to commit, let alone actually committed, any crime.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:20:24pm

re: #152 Ace Rothstein

Tamir Rice can’t be reached for comment. He was playing with a toy gun in an open carry state, and he was murdered by cops.

None of these gun laws and open carry provisions apply to persons of color. They are discriminatory in fact.

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Sinistershade  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:20:44pm

re: #121 No Malarkey!

This court would find a federal statute protecting abortion rights unconstitutional.

They well might. It’s not like they’re acting in good faith. And I’m not sure on what basis the US Congress has the authority to require states to allow abortion access.

But what I described is the legal framework as to why today’s decision doesn’t affect either a federal law requiring access or a federal law banning access (except that the latter is now no longer prohibited by the Constitution).

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:21:42pm

re: #161 lawhawk

Tamir Rice can’t be reached for comment. He was playing with a toy gun in an open carry state, and he was murdered by cops.

None of these gun laws and open carry provisions apply to persons of color. They are discriminatory in fact.

Philando Castile, murdered in cold blood in my own state, was also unavailable for comment.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:22:58pm

re: #139 Orange Impostor

Fifty years from now, the Roberts Supreme Court will be widely viewed as the worst seated court in American history, even more so than the Roger Taney court that handed down Dred Scott. The reason for this is that Dred Scott merely denied a group of people Constitutional protections, while overturning of the Roe v Wade decision actively removed established Constitutional rights to over half of the American people.

However, this is dependent on whether the fascists actually succeed in taking over the country, because if that happens, then there won’t be any historical review.

Dred Scott was worse than that — It stated that blacks, whether free or slave, were not and could never become citizens of the United States and had no rights under the Constitution. So I think Taney will still be the worst court based on that single decision but Roberts wins the title of second worst.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:23:15pm

re: #161 lawhawk

Tamir Rice can’t be reached for comment. He was playing with a toy gun in an open carry state, and he was murdered by cops.

None of these gun laws and open carry provisions apply to persons of color. They are discriminatory in fact.

Obviously the original intent of the framers was that only whites had second amendment rights, and the cops respect that.//

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:23:25pm

And John Crawford (Ohio).

Picked up a BB-gun off the shelf in a Wal-Mart display, was carrying it to the cashier to buy it. Somebody called 911, cops rolled in and killed him instantly.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:24:46pm

re: #164 Hecuba’s daughter

Yes, the Dredd Scott court was worse. It’s one of the few that actually are worse than the current court.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:24:52pm

re: #139 Orange Impostor

Fifty years from now, the Roberts Supreme Court will be widely viewed as the worst seated court in American history, even more so than the Roger Taney court that handed down Dred Scott. The reason for this is that Dred Scott merely denied a group of people Constitutional protections, while overturning of the Roe v Wade decision actively removed established Constitutional rights to over half of the American people.

However, this is dependent on whether the fascists actually succeed in taking over the country, because if that happens, then there won’t be any historical review.

imo medical autonomy is a human right not merely a constitutional one

anymore than the 14th gave certain people something they didnt inherently have before

these rights didnt just pop into existence because a court said so.

its perverse to say people werent people until a constitutional process said so

what the courts did was to stop local, state, and the federal governments and agents of the governments, and police, and businesses etc from stomping on peoples natural rights and suppressing their free exercise

black people always were people and they were always intrinsically ‘free’. they werent allowed to act free. the constitution didnt give them humanity. it prevented others from trampling on theirs.

and now they are doing it again with medical decisions.

theyre using the power of ‘state’ enforcement to prevent people from exercising their rights. they most certainly are not ‘taking their rights away’

this is not just rhetoric or semantics.
- owning a gun is not a natural right - no matter what some people believe
- bodily autonomy is - no matter what some people believe

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Sinistershade  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:27:01pm

re: #134 Dr Lizardo

They’d have to try to argue against the Supremacy Clause. Not that I wouldn’t put that past them, mind you.

I get your point, but the Supremacy Clause just says federal law trumps state law. It doesn’t provide an authority for federal law to regulate anything Congress wants it to. The usual route to such authority is the Interstate Commerce Clause, but that would be a real stretch—not that it hasn’t been stretched awfully far before.

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prairiefire  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:27:09pm

What about privacy! Pursuit of happiness! Are we not going to use atomic bombs because they’re not in the constitution? It ludicrous!

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:27:25pm

re: #147 Crush White Nationalism

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i read this morning that 50% of Rs would follow him off a cliff
and another 20% wants to push him off

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JC1  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:27:33pm

re: #128 No Malarkey!

The reason would be because federal government lacks constitutional authority to regulate abortion. Lots of federal laws are based on the Commerce Clause, and they would say abortion doesn’t effect interstate commerce.

But growing weed for personal consumption does.

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JC1  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:28:40pm

re: #130 jaunte

Based on CDC data of 6,369,000 U.S. pregnancies a year, with 2% of those ectopic:
about 12,000 new unnecessary deaths a year. Praise the bloody Lord.

Over 120k. Decimal in the wrong place.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:28:40pm

This is going to get a lot of use moving forward.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:29:25pm

re: #171 Dangerman

i read this morning that 50% of Rs would follow him off a cliff
and another 20% wants to push him off

Sounds like a good plan.

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JC1  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:30:10pm

re: #144 Ace Rothstein

Uh, eliminating the filibuster will be that reptile’s first order of business in January.

It won’t. Certainly not in 23. Probably never.

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Sinistershade  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:30:32pm

re: #141 Dangerman

that second paragraph is where i was going.
they will no doubt ‘find’ a basis.

because there is no way (imo) if congress actually was able to pass a law that all of a sudden all the anti-abortionists would collectively shrug and go ‘well the law’s the law’ and drop it

I quite agree. I was just explaining why today’s decision doesn’t prohibit a federal statute requiring abortion access.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:30:39pm

re: #173 JC1

Over 120k. Decimal in the wrong place.

A missed period.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:31:47pm

re: #109 Eclectic Cyborg

Not all men. NOT all of us. There’s still plenty of us on the right side of this fight and we’re going to do whatever we can to keep the women we care about safe.

You are NOT inadequate. You did NOT do this.

Thank you for encouraging words. I just regard men as too much in charge as matters like this happen.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:31:55pm

re: #171 Dangerman

i read this morning that 50% of Rs would follow him off a cliff
and another 20% wants to push him off

20% of Republicans want to eliminate half of their party?

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:33:02pm

re: #172 JC1

But growing weed for personal consumption does.

Don’t expect consistency from this Court. They decide first, then develop a justification for what they want to do.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:33:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:34:06pm

re: #130 jaunte

Based on CDC data of 6,369,000 U.S. pregnancies a year, with 2% of those ectopic:
about 12,000 new unnecessary deaths a year. Praise the bloody Lord.

127,380

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mmmirele  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:36:24pm

This was expected but it’s brutal to see.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:36:28pm

re: #180 Belafon

20% of Republicans want to eliminate half of their party?

If you want the wealthy to not pay taxes, but also want a stable society, that half has got to go, and “half” is being generous. The fascist wing of the party is most of the bird these days.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:37:07pm

re: #174 Crush White Nationalism

At it’s core, this is the nature of the problem. A highly-motivated minority of fundamentalist Christian evangelicals are determined to impose their sectarian doctrines on the whole of society, and they most likely sincerely believe they’re doing the Lord’s work by doing so.

But we, as a society, are generally reluctant to call them out on this, especially given the long-standing American tradition of respecting people’s faith (“attend the church of your choice”, if you remember that old slogan) and their beliefs. But we’ve long since crossed a threshold in which pushback is going to be required….and I have little doubt that such pushback will cause endless screeching about how they’re being oppressed, no doubt because they genuinely believe that them not being able to impose their narrow sectarian values on everyone else constitutes oppression.

And we, as a nation, need to have a frank and forthright debate about this.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:40:57pm

re: #186 Dr Lizardo

At it’s core, this is the nature of the problem. A highly-motivated minority of fundamentalist Christian evangelicals are determined to impose their sectarian doctrines on the whole of society, and they most likely sincerely believe they’re doing the Lord’s work by doing so.

But we, as a society, are generally reluctant to call them out on this, especially given the long-standing American tradition of respecting people’s faith (“attend the church of your choice”, if you remember that old slogan) and their beliefs. But we’ve long since crossed a threshold in which pushback is going to be required….and I have little doubt that such pushback will cause endless screeching about how they’re being oppressed, no doubt because they genuinely believe that them not being able to impose their narrow sectarian values on everyone else constitutes oppression.

And we, as a nation, need to have a frank and forthright debate about this.

Part of the problem is that they also believe that the Constitution is a sacred script almost as holy as the Bible, and that it gives them the right to use violence to impose God’s law on everyone else.

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:41:42pm
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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:42:25pm

A new political issue for cities in red states will be whether they will use city police to enforce state law abortion bans.

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danarchy  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:43:14pm

re: #168 Dangerman

this is not just rhetoric or semantics.
- owning a gun is not a natural right - no matter what some people believe
- bodily autonomy is - no matter what some people believe

While I agree with you on the second point I do not agree on the first. I believe you have a right to self defense and therefore the means to that defense. I also believe the government has a strong interest in regulating that right.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:44:36pm

re: #187 No Malarkey!

Part of the problem is that they also believe that the Constitution is a sacred script almost as holy as the Bible, and that it gives them the right to use violence to impose God’s law on everyone else.

Then - unfortunately - we may have to use less-than-peaceful means to disabuse them of such fanciful notions.

If they want a fight…then so be it.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:45:13pm

susan sarandon: “But Hillary would still have been worse than Trump”.

Wait for it…

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:45:48pm

re: #191 Dr Lizardo

Then - unfortunately - we may have to use less-than-peaceful means to disabuse them of such fanciful notions.

If they want a fight…then so be it.

As we saw on January 6, some of them do want a fight. That is what they are building their personal arsenals for.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:46:18pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:46:51pm

re: #192 Dr. Matt

susan sarandon: “But Hillary would still have been worse than Trump”.

Wait for it…

Susan Sarandon can go eat a bag of dicks.

This one’s for you, Susan…..

Youtube Video

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:46:53pm
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mmmirele  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:47:40pm

David French can GET FUCKED. I’d be happy to help with an angle grinder.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:47:47pm

The Onion is on a roll. There are too many Tweets in the series to post here.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:48:41pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:49:21pm

re: #193 No Malarkey!

As we saw on January 6, some of them do want a fight. That is what they are building their personal arsenals for.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:49:24pm

re: #147 Crush White Nationalism

Today’s ruling is actually a nail in Trump’s coffin amongst the MAGA faithful.

For a lot of Republicans, Trump’s main value was being their vessel in order to have this very day come true for them. Now that Roe v Wade is by corrupt Judicial edict not a thing anymore, Trump’s usefulness has greatly been diminished. Look for a very public Republican movement away from Trump towards DeSantis in the next few days and weeks and a more and more unhinged TFG.

DeSantis is the next stage in the quest by fascists towards a totalitarian state. DeSantis is the more dedicated nuts and bolts dictator they now seek after the kick the doors down clown show provided by their stooge Trump.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:51:34pm

re: #197 mmmirele

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:52:08pm

re: #184 mmmirele

There will be a steady stream of women crossing the Colorado river to go to El Centro. Maybe PP can set up a clinic in Winterhaven.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:53:22pm

This ruling is going to set up a shit-ton of cases that are going to directly challenge the freedom of movement and commerce.

What happens when some backwards state tries to prosecute a woman for an abortion she go in another state?

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Dr. Matt  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:53:23pm

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:54:34pm
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mmmirele  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:55:23pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

pre-eclampsia deaths will become common again

My mother very nearly died from pre-eclampsia delivering me in 1960. Delivery is the only way to at least give the woman a fighting chance. I’m just sick.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:55:32pm

re: #203 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There will be a steady stream of women crossing the Colorado river to go to El Centro. Maybe PP can set up a clinic in Winterhaven.

Women crossing state lines for abortion?

It seems totally dystopian for states within the US still providing abortion services to have to pass laws restricting bounty hunters trying to investigate or actually arrest/kidnap women to being back to states like Texas, but here we are.

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nines09  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:55:58pm

re: #199 jaunte

Celebrate Liz Cheney at your own risk.
She serves the GOP and voted with Trump and only wants to push him aside to get on with the continuing burning of rights and freedoms with a smarter Fascist.
If it has an (R) next to it’s name, it’s not your friend or ally.
They built this.
So she wants to run as a Democrat?
Watch the Republicans blacklisted line up to offer to save us. FROM THEM.
*SPIT*

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:57:00pm

re: #204 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This ruling is going to set up a shit-ton of cases that are going to directly challenge the freedom of movement and commerce.

What happens when some backwards state tries to prosecute a woman for an abortion she go in another state?

Oh, I definitely see that coming in the next year or two. I can almost guarantee it.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:58:00pm

Set them up in every 1st Nations Casino in the country.

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mmmirele  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:58:25pm

re: #149 sagehen

I would think the 13th Amendment guarantees that I not be required to provide gestation and labor against my will.

I can make a First Amendment argument that sectarian religious beliefs are being imposed on people who do not believe the same thing and thus this is a violation of my religious rights. Of course, this Court does not give a shit.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:01:30pm

A guide to the post Roe abortion landscape. It is already a criminal offense in South Carolina for a woman to obtain an abortion; they will be going to prison there soon, for up to two years.

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mmmirele  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:01:50pm

WOW! I saw this as a C&P on another account, and went to DICK’S main account and it’s true. I guess I’m gonna buy a new backpack from DICK’S.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:02:47pm

re: #213 No Malarkey!

They’ll say miscarriages are abortions too.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:03:29pm

re: #215 GlutenFreeJesus

They’ll say miscarriages are abortions too.

Correct. In South Carolina, every uterus is a potential crime scene.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:03:35pm

re: #215 GlutenFreeJesus

Feeding the private prison/free labor industry.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:03:56pm

re: #214 mmmirele

WOW! I saw this as a C&P on another account, and went to DICK’S main account and it’s true. I guess I’m gonna buy a new backpack from DICK’S.

This is amazing. And I’m so glad that I am a regular customer of Dick’s. I will continue to give them my business and go out of way to do so.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:04:12pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:05:10pm

re: #214 mmmirele

WOW! I saw this as a C&P on another account, and went to DICK’S main account and it’s true. I guess I’m gonna buy a new backpack from DICK’S.

So is Netflix, Disney, Comcast and others.

apple.news

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:05:29pm

re: #219 jaunte

Blue states must pass legislation to protect abortion pill providers from extradition to red states.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:06:29pm

My stupid fucking waste-of-space Governor:

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:06:45pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:07:05pm

As sure as flies land on sugar, you are going to have an influx of redneck yokel bounty hunters going into blue choice states to harrass women seeking abortions. I suggest that the blue staters give them the warmest possible welcome.

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PrairieQueen  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:07:13pm

I can’t think of any other way to say it, other than they’re all a bunch of c*nts. And if that word offends anyone, if that’s what someone chooses to focus on, rather than the matter at hand, then fuck them too. (Because sometimes “fuck” isn’t enough, that’s why.)

Seeing the close captioning on Biden’s speech, I looked at the screen and said to myself, “JFC, what c*nt,” to him, too. Ineffectual, out of touch, glacial, glazed over, lecturing people on how they should behave while the country burns. What.the.fuck.

All that higher road shit, that has allowed the batshit Fox News contingent to take this country over the side of a cliff.

Stack the courts, get the DOJ off its worthless, foot-dragging, c*nt ass, and make shit happen. We’re waaay past the go high when they go low bullshit.

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austin_blue  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:07:31pm

re: #215 GlutenFreeJesus

They’ll say miscarriages are abortions too.

They already are. The medical term for miscarriage is “Spontaneous Abortion”.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:07:31pm

re: #222 Eclectic Cyborg

My stupid fucking waste-of-space Governor:

If you believe. So is still optional. For now.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:07:54pm
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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:08:29pm

re: #220 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

So is Netflix, Disney, Comcast and others.

apple.news

Maybe all those companies will find it cheaper to donate to Democrats.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:09:22pm

re: #220 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

So is Netflix, Disney, Comcast and others.

apple.news

One more reason for DeSantis to try and boot them out of Florida.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:09:34pm

re: #229 Belafon

Maybe all those companies will find it cheaper to donate to Democrats.

Or move out of those states.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:09:41pm

re: #190 danarchy

While I agree with you on the second point I do not agree on the first. I believe you have a right to self defense and therefore the means to that defense. I also believe the government has a strong interest in regulating that right.

we may be splitting hairs and i dont want to go too far afield

i agree the right to self defense is a natural right.
and so is a means to that defense. not necessarily a specific means.
and i totally agree the government has a strong interest in regulating how you may defend yourself

my thoughts on guns are widely known
guns and how they are managed societally are a constitutional right.
all constitutional rights come with personal responsibilities that that imply consequences to the owner and current handler for error

control your weapon at all times. if you don’t ready to risk your freedom, finances and future

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:10:00pm

re: #214 mmmirele

Good on them. Glad to see it. Let’s get some more corporations to step up.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:10:57pm

re: #228 jaunte

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:11:27pm

this is why a law passed by congress will be meaningless

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) declared the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade “a historic victory” but said the work of antiabortion conservatives is “far from done,” the Washington Post reports.

He added: “In less than 140 days, things are going to change.”

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:12:14pm

re: #231 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Or move out of those states.

That was my first thought, but their former employees would wind up working for scumbags and they could no longer help them.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:12:19pm

re: #235 Dangerman

What happens in “less than 140 days”? Midterms?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:13:06pm

re: #231 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Or move out of those states.

And lose all those sweet GOP tax breaks? I doubt it.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:13:14pm

re: #196 Charles Johnson

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the New York Times reports Trump has repeatedly and privately told people that he believes the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade will be “bad for Republicans.”

“The decision, Mr. Trump has told friends and advisers, will anger suburban women, a group who helped tilt the 2020 presidential race to Joe Biden, and will lead to a backlash against Republicans in the November midterm elections.”

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jeffreyw  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:13:35pm

Sometime in the early ’70s a good friend of my then girlfriend became pregnant. At the time abortion was illegal in Illinois. There was a well known service that flew women to a New York clinic to have the operation and return them the same day. IIRC the entire package was $300. I drove my GF and her friend to the airport and killed time in the city until they returned. It was a long day.
I expect similar services will start springing up. The states with bounty laws will be a problem, especially with modern data collection activities.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:15:43pm

I disagree on redemption being possible, but I do hope he’s making them sweat and think about their choices.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:15:51pm

Not too distant future: “remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy!”

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:15:59pm

re: #225 PrairieQueen

See, personally, I’m a big fan of the “Chicago Way”.

Youtube Video

Being nice gets you nowhere.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:16:27pm

re: #240 jeffreyw

Sometime in the early ’70s a good friend of my then girlfriend became pregnant. At the time abortion was illegal in Illinois. There was a well known service that flew women to a New York clinic to have the operation and return them the same day. IIRC the entire package was $300. I drove my GF and her friend to the airport and killed time in the city until they returned. It was a long day.
I expect similar services will start springing up. The states with bounty laws will be a problem, especially with modern data collection activities.

There was a service in the 60s that flew a 747 once a week to Japan so that the children of the wealthy could take a tour of the country, with a minor stop at a clinic. It was full every week.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:16:43pm

re: #219 jaunte

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Merrick Garland Says States Can’t Ban Abortion Pills

Attorney General Merrick Garland said, in the wake of the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, “that states cannot ban mifepristone, a medication that is used to bring about an abortion, based on disagreement with the federal government on its safety and efficacy,” Axios reports.

According to the Washington Post, Garland also signaled the Justice Department “is preparing for legal battles on a host of related issues — from women traveling to states where the procedures are legal, to accessing pills that can induce abortions.”

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:18:00pm
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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:18:03pm

re: #239 Dangerman

Trump is, however, taking credit for Dobbs in his statement on Truth Social.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:18:51pm

re: #226 austin_blue

They already are. The medical term for miscarriage is “Spontaneous Abortion”.

I call them God’s Abortions.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:18:56pm

re: #243 Dr Lizardo

See, personally, I’m a big fan of the “Chicago Way”.

[Embedded content]

Video

Being nice gets you nowhere.

I worked at the Sears Tower when that was shot. The transformation of the streets for the shoot was fun to see. Now they could just use CGI.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:19:48pm

re: #245 Dangerman

Merrick Garland Says States Can’t Ban Abortion Pills

They can, however, make it a felony to prescribe or provide the pill to a pregnant woman to induce an abortion.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:20:04pm

re: #239 Dangerman

the New York Times reports Trump has repeatedly and privately told people that he believes the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade will be “bad for Republicans.”

“The decision, Mr. Trump has told friends and advisers, will anger suburban women, a group who helped tilt the 2020 presidential race to Joe Biden, and will lead to a backlash against Republicans in the November midterm elections.”

On this….I think Trump’s instinct is serving him well. On this one, I’d say Trump is correct. It’s a case of “be careful what you wish for”.

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BeachDem  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:20:36pm

As has long been the case.

From 2011

“At least 38 states have introduced fetal homicide laws that were intended to be used against violent attacks by third parties like abusive male partners. But in South Carolina, only one case has been brought against a man for assaulting a pregnant woman, while up to 300 women have been arrested under the law, according to the National Advocates for Pregnant Women.”

Edit—in case anyone cares, this was in response to

re: #216 No Malarkey!

Correct. In South Carolina, every uterus is a potential crime scene.

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:20:39pm

re: #218 Dr. Matt

This is amazing. And I’m so glad that I am a regular customer of Dick’s. I will continue to give them my business and go out of way to do so.

other super-woke things they’re done:

1. after Sandy Hook, they removed assault weapons from their big-box stores. After Parkland, they removed them from their hunting & fishing specialty shops, destroyed $5 million worth. (because sales increased at those stores after this move, they’ve since removed ALL guns and ammo from a bunch of their stores. As they sell out in the stores that still have it, they’re not reordering.)

2. When a 9-year-old girl wrote to the CEO to complain that the catalog only had boy models… they apologized, changed the catalog to be half girls, and sponsored a bunch of girls’ basketball teams.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:20:43pm

re: #248 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I call them God’s Abortions.

Prosecutors will be calling them “probable cause.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:20:59pm

re: #250 No Malarkey!

They can, however, make it a felony to prescribe or provide the pill to a pregnant woman to induce an abortion.

But what if the prescriber is an out-of-state doctor?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:21:44pm

re: #254 No Malarkey!

Prosecutors will be calling them “probable cause.”

And will insist on guilty until proven innocent, especially if she is unmarried.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:21:55pm

re: #247 No Malarkey!

Trump is, however, taking credit for Dobbs in his statement on Truth Social.

playing all sides

he also just said “God made the decision”

asshat

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:22:25pm

re: #250 No Malarkey!

They can, however, make it a felony to prescribe or provide the pill to a pregnant woman to induce an abortion.

So give them to every woman, leaving it to the individual to decide what to do with it.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:22:27pm

The 2022 and 2024 elections will be, in part, about abortion.

But I am reminded that when Hillary made abortion point-blank part of her statement at one of the “debates” with Trump that her statement didn’t seem to generate the political heat she may have hoped.

It all sort of died quickly in the media, because Trump is a good showman and knew his obscene carnival is what sells tickets.

This is going to be difficult going forward. If the Dems get more than 52 Senators they can try to go with a national law legalizing abortion, getting rid of the easy filibuster. Assuming the Dems hold the House and Presidency.

I don’t have a very clear crystal ball. Wish I did, but I don’t.

I don’t know how all of this will play out in states where a Senate seat is closely contested.

Which these days are few states. Maybe Georgia. Maybe Nevada or North Carolina. The politics of most states currently is pretty polarized.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:22:55pm

re: #255 Eclectic Cyborg

But what if the prescriber is an out-of-state doctor?

That is why blue states need to pass laws to protect such doctors and pharmacists from extradition to red states for issuing or filling prescriptions.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:23:35pm

re: #255 Eclectic Cyborg

But what if the prescriber is an out-of-state doctor?

We’re going to have a lot of inter-state bullshit going on. The theocratic SCOTUS has shattered the country.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:23:41pm

re: #259 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The 2022 and 2024 elections will be, in part, about abortion.

But I am reminded that when Hillary made abortion point-blank part of her statement at one of the “debates” with Trump that her statement didn’t seem to generate the political heat she may have hoped.

It all sort of died quickly in the media, because Trump is a good showman and knew his obscene carnival is what sells tickets.

This is going to be difficult going forward. If the Dems get more than 52 Senators they can try to go with a national law legalizing abortion, getting rid of the easy filibuster. Assuming the Dems hold the House and Presidency.

I don’t have a very clear crystal ball. Wish I did, but I don’t.

I don’t know how all of this will play out in states where a Senate seat is closely contested.

Which these days are few states. Maybe Georgia. Maybe Nevada or North Carolina. The politics of most states currently is pretty polarized.

in 2016, abortion was never going to be outlawed.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:23:43pm

re: #258 Crush White Nationalism

So give them to every woman, leaving it to the individual to decide what to do with it.

Interesting notion.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:24:21pm

re: #258 Crush White Nationalism

So give them to every woman, leaving it to the individual to decide what to do with it.

Can’t do that with a prescription drug. Now the FDA could make it over-the-counter, like it is in Mexico.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:24:29pm

re: #260 No Malarkey!

That is why blue states need to pass laws to protect such doctors and pharmacists from extradition to red states for issuing or filling prescriptions.

So we are talking about an industrial-size can o’ legal worms being opened here…

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:24:39pm

re: #260 No Malarkey!

That is why blue states need to pass laws to protect such doctors and pharmacists from extradition to red states for issuing or filling prescriptions.

And the blue states (def looking at you California, Oregon and Washington) need to get on that first thing Monday morning.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:24:43pm

Coming soon: mandatory doctor registries recording every pregnancy test they conduct into a state record. Count on it.

And efforts to ban home pregnancy test kits. (Good luck on this one).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:25:50pm

re: #267 Florida Panhandler

Coming soon: mandatory doctor registries recording every pregnancy test they conduct into a state record. Count on it.

And banning efforts of home pregnancy test kits. (Good luck on this one).

It will end with women having to register their wombs and have them fitted with a pregnancy detector chip.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:25:51pm

re: #264 No Malarkey!

Can’t do that with a prescription drug. Now the FDA could make it over-the-counter, like it is in Mexico.

There you go. Make it as easy as a drive down to your local Walgreens (or CVS or whatever).

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:26:27pm

re: #259 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The 2022 and 2024 elections will be, in part, about abortion.

But I am reminded that when Hillary made abortion point-blank part of her statement at one of the “debates” with Trump that her statement didn’t seem to generate the political heat she may have hoped.

It all sort of died quickly in the media, because Trump is a good showman and knew his obscene carnival is what sells tickets.

This is going to be difficult going forward. If the Dems get more than 52 Senators they can try to go with a national law legalizing abortion, getting rid of the easy filibuster. Assuming the Dems hold the House and Presidency.

I don’t have a very clear crystal ball. Wish I did, but I don’t.

I don’t know how all of this will play out in states where a Senate seat is closely contested.

Which these days are few states. Maybe Georgia. Maybe Nevada or North Carolina. The politics of most states currently is pretty polarized.

Of course in 2016 the debate wasn’t being conducted with the backdrop of all the abortion clinics being closed in half the states and women being prosecuted and dying. This could prove to be a very potent issue for the Democrats, but only time will tell.

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bratwurst  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:26:45pm

One could hardly blame people who did what they could to elect Hillary for reacting today with a self-righteous “I told you so!”

Having said that, I had my fill of this on Twitter well before lunch. While I do not come to you today with a suggestion on how to go forward, I don’t feel like I would be going out on a limb to say that patting yourself on that back for your foresight is not going to accomplish anything but MAYBE making you feel better for about 2 seconds.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:26:46pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:26:52pm

re: #264 No Malarkey!

Can’t do that with a prescription drug. Now the FDA could make it over-the-counter, like it is in Mexico.

The GOP brick shitting if this happened would be fun to watch.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:27:21pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:28:15pm

re: #245 Dangerman

Merrick Garland Says States Can’t Ban Abortion Pills

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BigPapa  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:28:23pm

In This Day in White Fuckery: Backhoe The Blue!

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:28:41pm

re: #270 No Malarkey!

Of course in 2016 the debate wasn’t being conducted with the backdrop of all the abortion clinics being closed in half the states and women being prosecuted and dying. This could prove to be a very potent issue for the Democrats, but only time will tell.

The Democrats need to run hard with this. Messaging like, “The GOP is out to enslave women and turn them into breeding stock” and run those messages nonstop between now and the November midterms.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:29:04pm

re: #209 nines09

Celebrate Liz Cheney at your own risk.
She serves the GOP and voted with Trump and only wants to push him aside to get on with the continuing burning of rights and freedoms with a smarter Fascist.
If it has an (R) next to it’s name, it’s not your friend or ally.
They built this.
So she wants to run as a Democrat?
Watch the Republicans blacklisted line up to offer to save us. FROM THEM.
*SPIT*

She doesn’t want to run as a Democrat. She wants Democrats to switch their registration for the primary to nominate her over her Trumpster opponent. As much I agree that she is no friend, it is only because Ms Vader and Kinzinger are on the committee that the committee has any validity in the public eye. Otherwise it would be construed by everyone as a partisan witch hunt. Whatever her motivations, she is doing a real service to help save our democracy.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:30:31pm

Maintain this energy, despite the snipers.

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Citizen K  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:30:55pm
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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:31:08pm
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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:32:05pm

re: #277 Dr Lizardo

The Democrats need to run hard with this. Messaging like, “The GOP is out to enslave women and turn them into breeding stock” and run those messages nonstop between now and the November midterms.

“A vote for the GOP is a vote for a nationwide abortion bad, a vote to force women to carry their rapist’s baby to term, a vote to kill women.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:32:18pm

Something good is going to come out of all this, right?

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:32:31pm

Just a side note: on this day where a basic human right just died in the US, Glenn Greenwald spends most of his time gloating on Twitter about it defending the legal background of those females involved who just pushed fellow women around the world off a cliff.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:32:53pm

re: #271 bratwurst

One could hardly blame people who did what they could to elect Hillary for reacting today with a self-righteous “I told you so!”

Having said that, I had my fill of this on Twitter well before lunch. While I do not come to you today with a suggestion on how to go forward, I don’t feel like I would be going out on a limb to say that patting yourself on that back for your foresight is not going to accomplish anything but MAYBE making you feel better for about 2 seconds.

We already got that out of our system.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:35:22pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:36:37pm

I’m genuinely wondering when the first deaths due to the fall of Roe will happen.

I’m guessing weeks away at most.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:36:50pm

re: #283 Eclectic Cyborg

Something good is going to come out of all this, right?

We shall see, though I am always optimistic. One of the things to learn about turning a ship around is that you’re still going in the wrong direction until you make enough change, but that doesn’t mean change isn’t happening.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:38:53pm

re: #282 No Malarkey!

“A vote for the GOP is a vote for a nationwide abortion bad, a vote to force women to carry their rapist’s baby to term, a vote to kill women.”

Yep, and relentlessly pound that message 24/7.

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BeachDem  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:39:48pm

re: #262 Belafon

in 2016, abortion was never going to be outlawed.

Republicans certainly thought it could be in 2012:

…the NY Times Editorial Board before the Iowa primary: “But the message from Iowa was crystal clear: Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum, Ron Paul, Jon Huntsman Jr., Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry all stand ready to restrict a woman’s right to make her own childbearing decisions and deny essential health care to millions of women. The Republican From field is united in its determination to overturn Roe v. Wade; to appoint Supreme Court justices supportive of that goal; and to end government payments to Planned Parenthood for family planning services, cancer screening and other vital health services provided to low-income women.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:41:51pm

re: #257 Dangerman

playing all sides

he also just said “God made the decision”

asshat

Trump lies about everything and cares nothing about morality or abortion. The reasons he is so loved among white evangelicals are his racism and his appointment of McConnell approved judges who gave them the repeal of Roe. Any Republican would have done that but some of them truly are anti-choice. Of course that is irrelevant: he will do whatever the evangelicals want because he literally does NOT care about anyone or anything other than his personal power and wealth.

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Jay C  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:43:19pm
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austin_blue  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:43:23pm

re: #248 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I call them God’s Abortions.

Works for me!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:43:31pm

re: #291 BeachDem

Republicans certainly thought it could be in 2012:

So the Leopard-Will-Eat-Your-Face Party has finally eaten our face.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:44:37pm
Supporters of proposals offering protections around data that could provide information about people seeking abortions are pushing for swift action after the Supreme Court’s Friday decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

As Democrats weigh responses to the 6-3 court decision that will trigger abortion bans in 13 states, and likely lead to severe restrictions in others, supporters of key data privacy proposals said it is urgent to ensure Americans’ location, search and call data isn’t used to target people seeking abortion care.

“We need to make sure that we in Congress are doing everything we can to protect people’s most sensitive and personal data, their reproductive and sexual health data, so that it can’t be used against them, especially in the states that are going to be criminalizing abortion,” said Rep. Sara Jacobs (D-Calif.), the lead House sponsor of a bill aimed at protecting reproductive health data.

Without additional protections, users’ location, search and calling data can be easily accessed and shared with law enforcement in ways that could be used to target people seeking abortions, especially in states that ban or severely restrict abortion access.

Such information could also be accessed and published by right-wing hackers, said Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) senior staff technologist Bill Budington.

Roe v. Wade reversal spurs Democrats’ call for data privacy protections (The Hill via MSN)

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Dr. Matt  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:45:46pm

“Vote for Trump, what do you got to lose?”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:46:17pm

re: #297 Dr. Matt

“Vote for Trump, what do you got to lose?”

Not a good question to ask with this SCOTUS.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:46:29pm

re: #286 Crush White Nationalism

[Embedded content]

“Overturning the right to an abortion…”

i get it, i really do
whether it’s a right, or overturned or natural or constitutional, the much bigger question is what’s gonna reach and move people

- the horrors of every type of pregnancy gone wrong?
- 12 year olds raped and impregnated by church-going family members?
- abusive spouse stories?
- their ‘concern’ for the ‘pre-born’ but not the born…

maybe this argument should be made more widespread and inclusive.
not whether to birth a baby or not.

frame it around bodily integrity and everyone’s right to legally own their own selves.
make their own medical decisions.
everyone can relate to that, right?
if they can do it with abortion, they can do it with X….

what about “in the case of pregnancy there are two persons”?
no there arent.
and still, no need to go there to get most people to understand what this means:
- loss of personal control of your own self.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:46:39pm

re: #291 BeachDem

I think it’s entirely possible that this SCOTUS decision could generate an enormous backlash, particularly from suburban women voters.

If (and FFS, even Trump is canny enough to notice this, regardless of what he may say publicly) suburban women voters abandon the GOP, what are they gonna be left with as a voter base? Inbred hillbillies? The neo-Confederate redneck brigade? Chronic malcontents? If the suburban women voter demographic says, “Fuck this shit” and starts voting for the Democrats in substantial numbers, the Republicans are screwed six ways from Sunday.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:47:45pm

re: #299 Dangerman

what about “in the case of pregnancy there are two persons”?
no there arent.
and still, no need to go there to get most people to understand what this means:
- loss of personal control of your own self.

and if one of those is a criminal/rapist, then their involvement should be minimal

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:53:43pm

re: #296 Crush White Nationalism

Related:

The technology industry is bracing for the uncomfortable possibility of having to hand over pregnancy-related data to law enforcement, in the wake of the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision on Friday to overturn the Roe v. Wade precedent that for decades guaranteed a woman’s constitutional right to an abortion.

As state laws limiting abortion kick in after the ruling, technology trade representatives told Reuters they fear police will obtain warrants for customers’ search history, geolocation and other information indicating plans to terminate a pregnancy. Prosecutors could access the same via a subpoena, too.

The concern reflects how the data collection practices of companies like Alphabet Inc’s (GOOGL.O) Google, Facebook parent Meta Platforms Inc (META.O) and amazon.com Inc (AMZN.O) have the potential to incriminate abortion-seekers for state laws that many in Silicon Valley oppose.

“It is very likely that there’s going to be requests made to those tech companies for information related to search histories, to websites visited,” said Cynthia Conti-Cook, a technology fellow at the Ford Foundation.

reuters.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:55:45pm

re: #302 Dr Lizardo

The legal clusterfucks this causes will be insane.

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mmmirele  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:58:32pm

This woman is a shitheel who used to teach at Liberty U, now teaches at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary (she teaches English). Back in the early 1990s, she was in possession of a fetus named “Tia” that she kept in a Tupperware. And she spews this nonsense:

Yeah, I’m not a nice person and I have zero filter right now.

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BigPapa  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:59:09pm

The fertility industry is going through some things right now too.

As horrible as this all is, and it’s horrible, I get a sense of ‘dog caught the car’ here. Will enough non-voters suddenly become voters and stay voters to change the trajectory were on?

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gocart mozart  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:00:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:01:21pm

re: #187 No Malarkey!

Part of the problem is that they also believe that the Constitution is a sacred script almost as holy as the Bible, and that it gives them the right to use violence to impose God’s law on everyone else.

the Constitution is every bit as holy as the Bible, which is to say, not holy in the least.

JMHO

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:01:56pm

re: #303 Eclectic Cyborg

The legal clusterfucks this causes will be insane.

Yeah, the fallout from this decision is gonna be clogging up the courts for the foreseeable future.

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danarchy  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:03:18pm

I see the new season of Umbrella Academy is up. Guess I know what I am doing this weekend.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:03:27pm

re: #302 Dr Lizardo

Related:

reuters.com

Amazon should copy it to everyone’s search history.

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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:05:34pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:05:58pm

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

A big problem we face is a matter of perception. The wingnuts believe that either the Constitution was personally written by the Baby Jesus or that the Founding Fathers were more-or-less divine figures speaking directly to the Big Kahuna.

That’s a matter of faith - and of course, has no basis whatsoever in empirical reality. But far too many of our fellow American citizens are now so utterly detached from empirical reality that it looks like we need some kind of national mass cult deprogramming or something.

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mmmirele  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:07:26pm

re: #310 Belafon

Amazon should copy it to everyone’s search history.

They can do what the ISP I still run my mail through does—keep log retention time to a minimum. And it’s quite deliberate. That’s why I still run my mail through them.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:11:16pm

I took my dog to a new place for a walk, a very long walk. I couldn’t internet and had to just get out. And still I can’t let go of when an old and dear friend from grad school came to visit us three years ago. We had agreed to not talk politics because she went from being a liberal in favor of gay and women’s rights when I first knew her to making the abolition of abortion her number one issue. Out of nowhere she announced that she voted for Trump. I blurted out, “are you fucking kidding me?” No, she said, he was the best chance she had ever seen for overturning Roe. We remained civil of course for the rest of the weekend, but I haven’t spoken to her since. I doubt she cares. I mean, she went from being proud of her alma mater, Notre Dame, to condemning it because of it’s liberal professors within a few years. (The reason she was in our area was because her niece was about to say goodbye to the secular world to enter the life of a nun somewhere in Massachusetts.)

ETA: sorry, that is just a dumb rant with no real meaning.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:13:07pm

It is quite likely that in years to come EVERYBODY is going to be doing things they don’t want reported to hostile entities. Those include cops, prosecutors, employers, schools, and paramilitaries.

This is a good time to learn some Information Hygiene.

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:13:53pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:14:31pm

re: #315 Decatur Deb

It is quite likely that in years to come EVERYBODY is going to be doing things they don’t want reported to hostile entities. Those include cops, prosecutors, employers, schools, and paramilitaries.

This is a good time to learn some Information hygiene.

Damn right. Things like VPN, services like ProtonMail, messengers like Wickr, that sort of thing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:15:33pm

re: #317 Dr Lizardo

Damn right. Things like VPN, services like ProtonMail, messengers like Wickr, that sort of thing.

Tor browser?

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:18:57pm

re: #303 Eclectic Cyborg

The legal clusterfucks this causes will be insane.

This decision is a 10.0 earthquake completely reshaping the nation’s political and legal landscape that is going to be reverberating for years to come.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:20:24pm
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Jay C  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:22:05pm

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

the Constitution is every bit as holy as the Bible, which is to say, not holy in the least.

JMHO

Holy enough when they want to cite it to “justify” whatever position they want to take: generally, in favor of exclusionism, prejudice, intolerance and violent enforcement of same, but never mind for now….

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:22:26pm

re: #313 mmmirele

They can do what the ISP I still run my mail through does—keep log retention time to a minimum. And it’s quite deliberate. That’s why I still run my mail through them.

Lots of unsophisticated women are just going to type “abortion options” into Google. And prosecutors are going to issue subpoenas to obtain their search histories.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:23:20pm
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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:24:03pm

re: #318 Eclectic Cyborg

Tor browser?

Especially the TAILS version. A version of Linux with encryption, email and Tor browser that fits on a USB stick and can be booted on any x86 PC.

Tails is a portable operating system that protects against surveillance and censorship.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:24:06pm

re: #322 No Malarkey!

Lots of unsophisticated women are just going to type “abortion options” into Google. And prosecutors are going to issue subpoenas to obtain their search histories.

Prepaid burner phones. Lots of ‘em.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:25:04pm

re: #322 No Malarkey!

Lots of unsophisticated women are just going to type “abortion options” into Google. And prosecutors are going to issue subpoenas to obtain their search histories.

A few hundred thousand people or bots making random “chaff” inquiries would make their jobs a bit less rewarding. Wouldn’t help Google’s marketing, either.

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gocart mozart  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:27:46pm
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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:29:01pm

re: #323 Charles Johnson

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:38:21pm
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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:39:48pm

re: #302 Dr Lizardo

Related:

reuters.com

Yeah because this is the most pressing problem we have….

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:40:29pm

re: #327 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

This dire warning was sent out just 7 weeks before the Berlin wall fell.
I used to get the Christian Anti-Communism Crusade’s newsletter. This was in the early 80s when they operated from Australia. It was a pretty good window into the mindset of right wing religion in general. You could look at it and see our present predicament coming.
There were some subtle indications that it was influenced by, if not fronting for, the anti-communist China Lobby, still headed at the time by Madame Chiang Kai-shek, with Anna Chennault as probably the number 2 figure. It was Chennault who helped the Nixon campaign subvert the 1968 election by acting as an intermediary between Nixon and Thieu regime in South Vietnam. They convinced Thieu that he would get a better deal later if he helped Nixon get elected by sabotaging the ongoing peace talks (thereby denying the Johnson administration credit for a peace deal.) The war went on for another seven years, with not thousands but millions more casualties.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:44:54pm

re: #330 Dangerman

Yeah because this is the most pressing problem we have….

Are you being snarky? Having trouble telling over the internet, but given that some states will attempt to stop a woman from having any kind of abortion, it does seem like a big deal.

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Citizen K  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:45:49pm

Yet another reminder of how our media has been compromised.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:46:05pm

re: #329 Belafon

[Embedded content]

Christ, I LOLed at the “seance” tweet. Thanks. I haven’t laughed all day.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:48:10pm

re: #306 gocart mozart

Except Barrett would be in a nun outfit since women aren’t allowed to be bishops.

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Amory Blaine  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:50:48pm

Now is the time to destroy the legitimacy of SCOTUS. Political attacks, ads on TV, personal insults on MTP. It is stacked with radicals. Trump’s attack on democracy can be extrapolated to his appointments and presented as illegitimate.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:51:37pm

re: #312 Dr Lizardo

A lot of guys, especially young guys, bend towards dude-bro-ism and really could not care less about anybody other than themselves.

Therein lay the political problem of building a coalition to put the US on a more modern course for the 21st century.

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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:52:50pm

re: #336 Amory Blaine

Now is the time to destroy the legitimacy of SCOTUS. Political attacks, ads on TV, personal insults on MTP. It is stacked with radicals. Trump’s attack on democracy can be extrapolated to his appointments and presented as illegitimate.

Every time a question is asked of John Roberts start with “How does it feel to be the Chief Justice of the single most corrupt court in US history?”

Every time.

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gocart mozart  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:53:08pm

The 2nd amendment only applies to some people.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:56:01pm

if you think any kind of database or reporting regarding ‘women’s health’ can be created to be used before any probable cause, just in case of *the chance of a possible future crime*

well, think what doors that could open up

like red flag laws in blue states - the perfect application of this.
how often do we say he was a law abiding citizen up to the moment he wasnt

be creative
there are lots of ‘opportunities’ here

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:56:01pm

Let me guess: The Sunday shows are only going to have Republicans on this weekend.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:58:27pm

I felt so helpless all day. I didn’t know what else to do so I made a whole bunch of food and donated $100 to Planned Parenthood.

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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:01:14pm

re: #339 gocart mozart

The 2nd amendment only applies to some people.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:06:30pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:07:27pm

Bedtime here, oh, and Happy Half Christmas to you all! Only six more months to go!!!

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:13:22pm

Abortion clinics are still open in Cincinnati, Dayton and Bloomington, for now.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:13:44pm

re: #332 Belafon

Are you being snarky? Having trouble telling over the internet, but given that some states will attempt to stop a woman from having any kind of abortion, it does seem like a big deal.

yeah
see my #340 below

what i meant was
if we have the ability to throw all that technology at something,
to gather data before someone does something ‘illegal’,
so as to use that data to prosecute them,
and then have them prove they didnt do what they’re accused of,
well then i can think of lots more things more important than this issue,
‘we’ should harness that brilliance for

like dui - count how many drinks are served to everyone in a bar
or ,like i said, red flag laws - if we can track women who havent committed a crime, why not gun owners?
or download every driver’s speed and maneuvering information from their cars and smart phones…

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:14:47pm

re: #337 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

A lot of guys, especially young guys, bend towards dude-bro-ism and really could not care less about anybody other than themselves.

Therein lay the political problem of building a coalition to put the US on a more modern course for the 21st century.

It will have to be built around women.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:15:55pm

I’m watching Claire McCaskill defend Susan Collins, saying that she supports women’s rights, and that Kavanaugh lied to her and she believed him. I don’t think that’s much of a defense. We all knew he was lying, so the defense is that she’s stupid.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:18:27pm

re: #349 Crush White Nationalism

I’m watching Claire McCaskill defend Susan Collins, saying that she supports women’s rights, and that Kavanaugh lied to her and she believed him. I don’t think that’s much of a defense. We all knew he was lying, so the defense is that she’s stupid.

So Collins and Manchin are either the only people on earth gullible enough to believe Kavanaugh, or they are liars. My money is on the latter.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:20:15pm

re: #350 No Malarkey!

So Collins and Manchin are either the only people on earth gullible enough to believe Kavanaugh, or they are liars. My money is on the latter.

Yes. And in the future it will be useless to ask GOP nominees anything other than, “in your view, which kinds of cases should a justice observe stare decisis and in which can it be safely ignored?”

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:21:14pm

re: #350 No Malarkey!

So Collins and Manchin are either the only people on earth gullible enough to believe Kavanaugh, or they are liars. My money is on the latter.

Claire made a good argument for stupidity, telling the audience that Collins has voted in support of Planned Parenthood several times.

This is on today’s Deadline White House.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:21:42pm

re: #342 The Pie Overlord!

I felt so helpless all day. I didn’t know what else to do so I made a whole bunch of food and donated $100 to Planned Parenthood.

ditto on the cooking part

i just popped a farmland vegetable pie into the oven

deep dish
double crust
scallions, squash, grape tomatoes, limas, okra, havarti, basil, hard boiled eggs

i hope ours looks like theirs

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Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:22:27pm

re: #339 gocart mozart

The 2nd amendment only applies to some people.

If my old, white, male ass was draped with a sidearm in front of the Houston County AL courthouse, I’m certain I would meet several polite and well-armed gendarmes.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:24:02pm

re: #349 Crush White Nationalism

I’m watching Claire McCaskill defend Susan Collins, saying that she supports women’s rights, and that Kavanaugh lied to her and she believed him. I don’t think that’s much of a defense. We all knew he was lying, so the defense is that she’s stupid.

she isnt stupid
and she didnt believe him for a second

she used what he said as an excuse
merely as cover so she could say she believed him
that’s all

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:24:57pm

re: #6 Dangerman

Amber Heard level of performance credibility. Senator Collins is perfectly fine with the SCOTUS decision overturning Roe v. Wade. When one of her loved ones needs an abortion, they will get one. That’s what matters to Ms. Collins. Maine voters had the chance to vote her out and failed to do so.

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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:25:12pm

re: #354 Decatur Deb

If my old, white, male ass was draped with a sidearm in front of the Houston County AL courthouse, I’m certain I would meet several polite and well-armed gendarmes.

And if you weren’t white, there would be several more, not polite and in a shooting stance, begging you to even twitch so they could kill you.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:26:59pm

re: #351 Barefoot Grin

And those Judges will look you in the eyes and calmly lie to you.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:28:01pm

re: #357 William Lewis

And if you weren’t white, there would be several more, not polite and in a shooting stance, begging you to even twitch so they could kill you.

But they didn’t. The problem isn’t that they swarmed him, it’s that they might not swarm anyone carrying in an “unusual” manner. They’re going to get a lot more practice, now.

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EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:31:03pm

re: #348 No Malarkey!

It will have to be built around women.

This. A few million newly-minted single-issue pro-choice voters would help fix many problems in the US.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:31:59pm

re: #355 Dangerman

she isnt stupid
and she didnt believe him for a second

she used what he said as an excuse
merely as cover so she could say she believed him
that’s all

I love Claire McCaskill, but suspect that you’re right, so won’t challenge you to a duel. Not this time.

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EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:32:40pm

re: #351 Barefoot Grin

Yes. And in the future it will be useless to ask GOP nominees anything other than, “in your view, which kinds of cases should a justice observe stare decisis and in which can it be safely ignored?”

It’s useless to ask a GOP nominee anything, because Republicans are axiomatically dishonest.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:33:29pm

If this was a Marvel movie, it’d be about time for the Avengers to arrive and start cleaning this mess up.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:33:51pm

re: #362 EPR-radar

It’s useless to ask a GOP nominee anything, because Republicans are axiomatically dishonest.

Either that or they dodge questions / give non-answers.

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mmmirele  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:34:07pm

Update: Well, I’m at the point in my Covid journey *snort* that my temp is pretty much normal, my SpO2 is pretty much normal, but I have a headache that won’t quit and I’m starting to cough up

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This is still better than the six weeks in January/February 2019 when I suffered with bronchitis, because I made the executive decision that I was not well enough to go back to work today. I’ll go back on Monday. In 2019, I stupidly dragged myself back to work after vacation instead of staying home and made myself worse. It didn’t help that a few days after I came back to work, the worst technical disaster in decades hit my evil too big to fail employer.

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darthstar  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:35:48pm

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:36:51pm

re: #318 Eclectic Cyborg

Tor browser?

Brave is pretty good.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:37:10pm

re: #361 Crush White Nationalism

I love Claire McCaskill, but suspect that you’re right, so won’t challenge you to a duel. Not this time.

Wouldn’t be a good bet
I’ve been a fencer since 1971

Oh wait. Duel.
if you meant … Then I’m toast

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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:40:46pm

re: #367 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Brave is pretty good.

I’ve read there are some very basic level bugs in it, especially in its implementation of The Onion Router protocol. It’s a decent browser but not one to trust if you need serious levels of security.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:42:11pm

Might be a good night to stay indoors if you can. Who knows what the hell might happen out there?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:49:05pm

Pro states need to start building secure clinics at their borders closest to the anti states.

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aatharuv  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:49:35pm

We can mourn for a day. Then, it’s time for cold, focused anger and actions.

Lobbying the federal government to open up abortion clinics on Federal lands in every state with abortion restrictions that are effectively a ban. If that gets implemented and pisses off some of the reich wing states enough to make it more likely that they try to seceed, even better.

Supporting all groups doing good messaging… assuming they want to put out hard hitting videos to support Women’s right to make their own decisions on healthcare. (I note the Lincoln Project hasn’t put out any videos yet, unsurprisingly. But they’re focused on destroying Trumpism, which is still good.)

Obscuring pregnancies.

Mass buying of pregnancy tests is a good idea by all women or all who could get pregnant. Even by those who are pregnant. Because those who could get pregnant will need to test every month, and everyone else needs to provide cover for them. Not everyone has money for them though. Are there other legitimate uses of neo-natal vitamins other than by pregnant people and new mothers? (Okay, this is certainly not enough — there are other items for which cover buying is useful. I’m thinking off the top of my head as a father of a 1.5 year old).

Buying things in cold hard cash without using credit cards or loyalty cards. People can data mine and figure out that people are pregnant based on their purchases. There’s safety in numbers. And the police state isn’t yet taking photos of everyone who buys something for use in prosecution.

Deleting any period tracker apps. Or installing any period tracker apps that can guarantee they have their data in a foreign jurisdiction.

(Edit: This list is woefully incomplete. But it’s a start.)

GETTING OUT THE VOTE. Vote for the most progressive Democrat who can win 52% of the vote or maybe 55% to be safe. We need to have a large enough margin to win over Republican shenanigans on election day, during registration, while challenging ballots, etc..

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:51:47pm

re: #363 Eclectic Cyborg

If this was a Marvel movie, it’d be about time for the Avengers to arrive and start cleaning this mess up.

At this point I’d settle for Homelander. Oh wait. He’s trump.

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nines09  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:51:51pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:55:23pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:56:05pm
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mmmirele  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:56:23pm

re: #371 GlutenFreeJesus

Pro states need to start building secure clinics at their borders closest to the anti states.

I could actually see California doing that. You know, right past the California Agricultural Inspection Station on 1-10 (where I was waved through last Saturday). That said, I remember how the Utah State Police used to hang around in the parking lots of the various liquor establishments in Evanston, WY. If they saw a car with UT plates loading a minikeg into the trunk, they’d radio back to their boys on the UT side of the border for an arrest.

So yeah, need to think it through. Maybe partner with some of the tribes to put clinics on tribal land?

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:56:46pm
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aatharuv  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:57:19pm

re: #376 Eclectic Cyborg

Or companies known to use child labor or slave labor?

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:57:46pm

What kind of world will she grow up in?

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:00:54pm

re: #376 Eclectic Cyborg

Or coat hangers. Women who don’t want babies are going to find a way to end their pregnancies — including self-help or back-alley options.

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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:01:40pm

re: #377 mmmirele

I could actually see California doing that. You know, right past the California Agricultural Inspection Station on 1-10 (where I was waved through last Saturday). That said, I remember how the Utah State Police used to hang around in the parking lots of the various liquor establishments in Evanston, WY. If they saw a car with UT plates loading a minikeg into the trunk, they’d radio back to their boys on the UT side of the border for an arrest.

So yeah, need to think it through. Maybe partner with some of the tribes to put clinics on tribal land?

There was the recent decision that preempted state enforcement on federal property.

Require all US Military bases to allow reproductive services to all US citizens?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:03:26pm

re: #377 mmmirele

I like the Tribal land idea.

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John Hughes  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:03:30pm

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

Unfortunately, I don’t think violence will change the 6-3 majority on SCOTUS, or the fact that Manchin and Sinema won’t do the right fucking thing.

It could.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:03:36pm
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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:04:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:06:19pm

re: #380 The Pie Overlord!

What kind of world will she grow up in?

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:07:03pm
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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:07:12pm

Beauteous

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:11:08pm

re: #380 The Pie Overlord!

What kind of world will she grow up in?

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austin_blue  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:12:39pm

If I was any of the Justices who voted to overturn Roe, I would never eat outside my own house again. I would also ensure that no one outside of my household had anything to do with cooking my food.

Nobody wants to eat that much spit, or worse.

Disgusting? Yes. But I also know how Alex Jones is treated by some Austin restaurants.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:12:48pm

re: #343 William Lewis

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:13:06pm

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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:14:46pm

re: #380 The Pie Overlord!

What kind of world will she grow up in?

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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:15:33pm

re: #392 Belafon

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:15:53pm
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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:18:41pm

re: #363 Eclectic Cyborg

If this was a Marvel movie, it’d be about time for the Avengers to arrive and start cleaning this mess up.

The Avengers are kind of like the Doctor and the Old Testament God: they’re not going to fix our problems for us.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:19:51pm

is it time for protest songs for the new theme?

Because I got them…

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:21:41pm
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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:22:16pm

re: #398 Backwoods_Sleuth

is it time for protest songs for the new theme?

Because I got them…

Youtube Video

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:26:33pm

Maybe abortion clinics can be set up on military bases.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:26:49pm

re: #399 Belafon

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This is the way:

“Women must be able to make their own health care decisions, not politicians.”

Or even “everyone must be able to…”

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:29:28pm

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:30:26pm

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nines09  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:31:31pm

From a street view my two cents is the GOP and their thugs no longer fear the American people.
They have the cops and courts in their pocket and will beat and shoot you worse than ever seen.
Does America have the stomach?
Does the Democratic Party have the will and resources to fight back?
I heard the Democrats have a majority.
Christ.
Thank god.
Imagine if they didn’t.
They just witnessed over a million Americans die from a pandemic as they attacked people who masked and cared.
And video after video of black folk shot as white folk who did the same fucking thing were brought in.
And Trump still raises money and holds power.
And your best hope is Liz Fucking Cheney?
Christ.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:33:10pm

re: #398 Backwoods_Sleuth

is it time for protest songs for the new theme?

Because I got them…

I paged it:

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:33:14pm
Some House Republicans who oppose abortion rights are pushing legislation to implement a nationwide abortion ban at 15 weeks, coming just hours after the Supreme Court released its opinion overturning Roe v. Wade,” CNN reports.

“The legislation appears unlikely to advance in the Senate in the near future — due in part to the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster. Still, the early discussions represent the excitement energizing opponents of abortion rights, eager to capitalize on Friday’s victory.

Here’s how to keep it alive

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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:35:41pm

re: #403 The Pie Overlord!

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:36:13pm

re: #407 Dangerman

“The legislation appears unlikely to advance in the Senate in the near future — due in part to the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster.”

Our heads will spin at how quickly Republicans get rid of the filibuster once they’re in charge.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:36:56pm

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:37:15pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

This is simultaneously one of the most dystopian and one of the most morbidly hilarious things I can imagine.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:39:31pm

With all the problems various localities and states have with ordinary crime investigations, policing the streets and enforcing traffic regulations just think about now having these same resources spread out even further trying to track down 17 year old Susie who was knocked up by the QB of the local high school.

Believe it when finding out where Susie is and making sure she cannot leave the area will be job #1 over all these other issues in many parts of the country.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:39:48pm

Daughter1 (The Candidate) has checked in:

Vid at TikTok for those who observe
tiktok.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:42:17pm

Youtube Video

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PrairieQueen  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:43:04pm

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is like taking the pulse of a corpse, but acting really concerned when you do it.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:43:46pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:53:35pm

re: #416 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

We had the chance to have a Democratic President in 2016 AFTER McConnell cynically refused to bring Merrick Garland’s nomination to the Senate floor. Voters knew that the next President would get to fill SCOTUS and Trump was elected. But her emails, indeed.

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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:53:36pm

re: #416 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:55:45pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:59:41pm

A PayPal email just offered me $5USD to sign up for one of their bajours.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:04:57pm

re: #410 Dangerman

I would be disappointed if I opened a pie and it contained… vegetables! YMMV but I don’t love savory pie unless it’s pizza. Of course you can put anything inside a crust and call it pie. For Passover I made a meat pie, with a crust made out of… mashed potatoes! Was that even a pie?

Just because I call myself “The Pie Overlord!” doesn’t make me an expert, even though I think I am.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:05:32pm

From a live-tweet of a Roe protest in NYC

concur

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:06:56pm

re: #374 nines09

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:06:59pm

hi

I’m only here briefly. I have stayed away due to all the claims levelled at me (I’m sure you “feel” persecuted as an atheist, denying my lived experience of actual persecution).

Trillions of pixels have been spilled over the idea that the rulings against Roe and Casey are meant to control women.

That’s true as far as it goes, but as three hundred years of conservative thinkers from Edmond Burke forward, and billions of trees worth of conservative apologia books have noted, conservatism only has one goal. Power. That’s it. This doesn’t end with women (as noted in Thomas’s opinion that the court needs to revisit such cases as Lawrence and Obergefell).

The Libertarian Party is no different, as their monarchist wing, the Von Mises Institute, have taken over the national caucus this month.

The bullshyte proposed in Ohio about “re-implanting” ectopic pregnancies, and all the hot takes that conservatives don’t understand human anatomy miss the point. Maybe some don’t understand, but the majority are quite happy to use a lie if that’s what it takes to grasp more power. They don’t care about the truth, they care about power.

I am under no illusions that the Fascist Party is not going to come after me as an atheist. The National Christians (Nat-Cs) want me dead. I know this. They get cover from Radical Centrists.

As of now, Nebraska remains a place out-of-state Democrats ignore, and a place where in-state Democrats fought off an abortion ban in a special legislative session several months ago. We remain a Red state where abortion access is legal though the second trimester.

Our state’s First Lady Suzanne Shore has endorsed the Democratic candidate for the special election in NE-1, state senator Patty Pansing-Brooks. Outside of Nebraska, I imagine Democrats haven’t heard of either of these women. My wingnut governor’s own wife endorsed the Democratic candidate.

Polling is thin in Nebraska (again because we mostly get ignored), but the race in NE-1 seems too close to call at the moment. It is not enough to hold on to Blue states, Democrats have to quit ignoring the Red states which have not yet stripped rights.. Don Bacon in NE-2 has a real chance of being turfed out in the General Election.

secure.actblue.com (Ms. Pansing-Brooks Act Blue account for her election to Congress).

The election is on June 28.
en.wikipedia.org

Even in my uber-conservative district of NE-3 (further right than Wyoming), right now there is a massive protest going on in Scottsbluff.

Conservatism is fundamentally antithetical to democracy and rights (Burke himself said so). As conservatives further gather power, they will strip rights in the reverse order they were acknowledged. Women might be first, but they assuredly won’t be last.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:09:55pm
Trillions of pixels have been spilled over the idea that the rulings against Roe and Casey are meant to control women.

good to know that those trillions of pixels are just not inclusive enough…

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austin_blue  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:11:26pm

re: #421 The Pie Overlord!

I would be disappointed if I opened a pie and it contained… vegetables! YMMV but I don’t love savory pie unless it’s pizza. Of course you can put anything inside a crust and call it pie. For Passover I made a meat pie, with a crust made out of… mashed potatoes! Was that even a pie?

Just because I call myself “The Pie Overlord!” doesn’t make me an expert, even though I think I am.

Wait, you don’t care for quiche? A cheddar, mushroom, and spinach quiche is kinda Faboo!

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:12:29pm

re: #424 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Thanks for coming in. You have been missed by quite a few people myself included. Please return as soon as you can.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:13:08pm

re: #421 The Pie Overlord!

I would be disappointed if I opened a pie and it contained… vegetables! YMMV but I don’t love savory pie unless it’s pizza. Of course you can put anything inside a crust and call it pie. For Passover I made a meat pie, with a crust made out of… mashed potatoes! Was that even a pie?

Shepherd’s or Cottage Pie for the win!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:13:49pm

re: #421 The Pie Overlord!

For Passover I made a meat pie, with a crust made out of… mashed potatoes! Was that even a pie?

A variant of a shepherds pie. I prefer mine with lamb, but beef is also acceptable.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:15:05pm

re: #428 Backwoods_Sleuth

Damn, 41 secs. GMTA

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:17:52pm

I was out this afternoon and stopped at the gas station across the road from our rural courthouse (for real, it is not in a town). The old guy who runs the gas station is 80, a lifelong rural Texan of limited education but great intelligence. He told me, “Ah thank the Republicans have bit off more ‘n they can chew this time.”
I think he’s right. This may be the hill that the Repugs and their accursed coalition of grifters, half wits and tax cheats may die on.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:19:00pm

re: #429 Colère Tueur de Lapin

A variant of a shepherds pie. I prefer mine with lamb, but beef is also acceptable.

shepherd’s pie is lamb and cottage pie is beef.

some have peas, others have corn as the veg.

and then there is cheese…

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:19:32pm

re: #431 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I think he is right too.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:19:36pm

re: #431 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

See, I’d like to believe this, but the Republicans are also hard at work finagling it so that they’re the ones who count the votes next time.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:20:36pm

He’s not stupid, and knows that they’ve created a massive backlash by not whittling away at rights slowly enough to move public opinion. They pointed a blowtorch at the frog instead of boiling it.

Chief Justice John Roberts doesn’t agree with overturning abortion rights — but don’t look for his name among the dissenters.

In a mealy-mouthed concurrence, he bemoans that the Court didn’t just nix the viability line, but went all the way on abortion rights. Not because he disagrees with the content of the decision — he calls it “thoughtful and thorough” — but because, he says, demolishing Roe is unnecessary to decide the case centered on a 15-week abortion ban out of Mississippi.

“Here, there is a clear path to deciding this case correctly without overruling Roe all the way down to the studs: recognize that the viability line must be discarded, as the majority rightly does, and leave for another day whether to reject any right to an abortion at all,” he writes.

Roberts’ preference is clear: get rid of the viability line, which he spends many paragraphs attacking. Then, perhaps when a little time has passed, curtail abortion in some other ways.

Roberts Tries To Wash Hands Of Overturning Roe While Joining Majority Judgment (TPM)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:20:45pm

re: #424 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

hi

As of now, Nebraska remains a place out-of-state Democrats ignore, […]

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Conservatism is fundamentally antithetical to democracy and rights (Burke himself said so). As conservatives further gather power, they will strip rights in the reverse order they were acknowledged. Women might be first, but they assuredly won’t be last.

For sure the Burke types are aiming at undoing modernity.

It’s a long battle.

The bit of good news that came out a few weeks back, about belief in a “god” in the US has dropped to 81%, is that the changes in the young people are real.

The religious right hopes that as young people today age they will turn towards the religious right.

But I doubt that will happen in masses.

I still remain hopeful that the religious right will be dragged down in the ever widening sink hole which Trump helped to enlarge significantly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:22:25pm

re: #431 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I was out this afternoon and stopped at the gas station across the road from our rural courthouse (for real, it is not in a town). The old guy who runs the gas station is 80, a lifelong rural Texan of limited education but great intelligence. He told me, “Ah thank the Republicans have bit off more ‘n they can chew this time.”
I think he’s right. This may be the hill that the Repugs and their accursed coalition of grifters, half wits and tax cheats may die on.

My FB page is full of outrage at the SCOTUS decision and I am happily surprised at some of the reactions (one is a cousin in Colorado who is a former member of Colorado Springs city council).

Also, some of the trumpfans are now very quiet…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:24:04pm

re: #437 Backwoods_Sleuth

On my FB the outcries are coming from a few women who I have “friended” due to mutual interests (genealogy, history).

So far no outcry from my much more numerous relatives.

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darthstar  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:25:16pm

re: #429 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I just put a 4 1/2 pound lamb shoulder in the oven…gonna be a late dinner tonight.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:26:15pm

I do like the Illumin*A*unties.

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Amory Blaine  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:27:46pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:28:12pm
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austin_blue  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:29:31pm

re: #427 PhillyPretzel

Thanks for coming in. You have been missed by quite a few people myself included. Please return as soon as you can.

I hope the Mouse understands that his Atheism isn’t the problem, it’s that he proselytizes like a Shiite Baptist, while most of his audience here are members of, or adjacent to, the choir.

It got to the point that I just scrolled down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:29:34pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:29:39pm

re: #439 darthstar

I just put a 4 1/2 pound lamb shoulder in the oven…gonna be a late dinner tonight.

Mint jelly?

To be honest, I can’t eat lamb. Not necessarily out of moral reasons, but because it causes some serious noxious effluvia.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:30:28pm

Thread, five tweets, from our atheist state senator Democratic Christians opposed because she’s an atheist.

Nebraska is about to become a sea of sanity for out-of-state women who can get here. (On my side of the state there are no women’s clinics, but Colorado isn’t very far.)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:30:56pm
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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:31:57pm

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

shepherd’s pie is lamb and cottage pie is beef.

some have peas, others have corn as the veg.

and then there is cheese…

Carrots are the best veg in either. Potato and/or turnip is nice too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:32:52pm

re: #448 William Lewis

Carrots are the best veg in either. Potato and/or turnip is nice too.

mashed potato is the main veg for either

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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:33:37pm

re: #435 Crush White Nationalism

He’s not stupid, and knows that they’ve created a massive backlash by not whittling away at rights slowly enough to move public opinion. They pointed a blowtorch at the frog instead of boiling it.

Roberts Tries To Wash Hands Of Overturning Roe While Joining Majority Judgment (TPM)

Roberts thinks he can still salvage his reputation. < spit > He’s just as corrupt as the court he leads in its destruction of the Constitution.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:33:42pm

re: #449 Backwoods_Sleuth

mashed potato is the main veg for either

I’ve also used a combo of mashed white potato and sweet potato for an art deco topping.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:34:26pm

re: #450 William Lewis

Roberts thinks he can still salvage his reputation. < spit > He’s just as corrupt as the court he leads in its destruction of the Constitution.

Roberts reputation is toast.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:34:51pm

re: #421 The Pie Overlord!

I would be disappointed if I opened a pie and it contained… vegetables! YMMV but I don’t love savory pie unless it’s pizza. Of course you can put anything inside a crust and call it pie. For Passover I made a meat pie, with a crust made out of… mashed potatoes! Was that even a pie?

Just because I call myself “The Pie Overlord!” doesn’t make me an expert, even though I think I am.

;-)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:35:20pm

re: #427 PhillyPretzel

Thanks for coming in. You have been missed by quite a few people myself included. Please return as soon as you can.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:36:02pm

re: #451 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve also used a combo of mashed white potato and sweet potato for an art deco topping.

I agree. But I’m cooking for myself this summer and so I’m doing more Basmati and other rice just because I don’t want to do my absolute favorite side dish—mashed potatoes.

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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:36:53pm

re: #445 Barefoot Grin

Mint jelly?

To be honest, I can’t eat lamb. Not necessarily out of moral reasons, but because it causes some serious noxious effluvia.

Ick on the mint.

Either a drippings gravy or BBQ sauce please.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:37:42pm

re: #455 Barefoot Grin

I agree. But I’m cooking for myself this summer and so I’m doing more Basmati and other rice just because I don’t want to do my absolute favorite side dish—mashed potatoes.

basmati rice is the bomb for any recipe/dish!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:40:29pm

re: #434 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

See, I’d like to believe this, but the Republicans are also hard at work finagling it so that they’re the ones who count the votes next time.

True. They are openly planning and organizing a massive campaign to disrupt the elections and alter the results. Democrats have to be ready and organized to counter this. It is also going to take a change of attitude in many. We are dealing with brazen liars and violent criminals. Rainbows and unicorns farts must be replaced with brass knuckles and loud sirens.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:40:51pm

re: #413 Decatur Deb

And my next video!!!!

tiktok.com

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:40:52pm
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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:40:57pm

re: #455 Barefoot Grin

I agree. But I’m cooking for myself this summer and so I’m doing more Basmati and other rice just because I don’t want to do my absolute favorite side dish—mashed potatoes.

Did a pot of rice with sliced carrot, sliced kielbasa, and a tablespoon of butter for supper. Nom.

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nines09  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:41:11pm

Got into a conversation with a fan of our band (imagine that) and he shared this photo and the time stamp told me I’ve been playing with a professional drummer for going on 6 years. Cleaned house. Now down to me him and a real bassist.
Time slips on by. Playing the July 4th weekend. They liked us, we back.
Damn.

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steve_davis  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:41:53pm

just looked at the new stuff coming to netflix and my reaction is still “I’m not paying 10 bucks for this shit.” They really need to get it together. For 10 bucks, HBOMax is giving me enormously better quality. I’m paying Apple 5 bucks, and they’ve given me a couple pretty decent tom hanks flicks and a couple of the better sf/space opera series I’ve seen in a long while.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:44:34pm

re: #450 William Lewis

Roberts thinks he can still salvage his reputation….

He cant

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:45:22pm

re: #135 Belafon

A lawsuit has been filed by a Jewish group, I think a synagogue, stating exactly that.

In Florida.

You are going to see the anti-Semitism of Christians come to full force in the courts on why Jews don’t have such a religious right.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:49:42pm

re: #461 William Lewis

Did a pot of rice with sliced carrot, sliced kielbasa, and a tablespoon of butter for supper. Nom.

I’ll try. Thanks!

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Jay C  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:50:04pm

re: #452 Backwoods_Sleuth

Roberts reputation is toast.

And quite deservedly. Even on the offhand chance that he might have some qualms about how any particular decision is “reasoned” (if that word can even be applied to the ideological hackery the SC’s Radicals seem determined to inflict on the country), he’s still going to be in the minority (CJ status is meaningless in this instance), the balance of power on SCOTUS has shifted to the Fuckhead Five. And will stay there until the next change of personnel.

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EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:22:02pm

re: #447 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s true that purity ponies are annoying. It also remains true that “WTF was Pelosi doing by supporting Cuellar in his primary?” is a fair question.


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