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Belafon  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:55:53pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 24, 2022 • 6:00:38pm

re: #1 Belafon

Seriously, any thinking person (read, not braindead conservatives) knew that. It was obvious.

“Hello police? I’m a lefty and hate MTG so I swatted her!”

So believable.

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EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2022 • 6:01:23pm

re: #1 Belafon

Surprise, surprise, surprise. Actually not, of course. The vast majority of trolls are right wingers.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 24, 2022 • 6:01:49pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2022 • 6:03:45pm

re: #4 Dave In Austin

For many of them, local Klan meetings were their social/political modes of self expression, pre-internet.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 24, 2022 • 6:04:54pm

re: #4 Dave In Austin

I think they moved to Idaho.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2022 • 6:07:26pm

Some amazing picking technique in this jam. It’s hard to tell what’s hammered vs. what’s picked. Nuno is a stone monster.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 24, 2022 • 6:13:36pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 24, 2022 • 6:14:31pm

So much PLAIIOS!S!!S!!! going on

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wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2022 • 6:16:30pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 6:23:47pm
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EstebanTornado1963  Aug 24, 2022 • 6:29:16pm
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Belafon  Aug 24, 2022 • 6:42:38pm
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Ace Rothstein  Aug 24, 2022 • 6:48:04pm

Lyin’ Raphael calling anyone out of touch is fucking rich.

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Captain Ron  Aug 24, 2022 • 6:59:56pm
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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:04:45pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:06:10pm

Breaking extremely local news:

My wife is on-line booking all the car ferry passages for our trip to Atlantic Canada. She asked me if I have a problem with her booking first-class passages (no).

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:06:14pm

Fauci: come at me…

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:07:18pm
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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:08:32pm
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austin_blue  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:09:36pm

That Washburn Telecaster knock-off sounded damned good, which begs the question:

Why not buy a Telecaster?

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EstebanTornado1963  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:13:25pm

I would love to slap this driving range pro across his smug little face.

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:15:19pm

Biden quietly getting shit done

Amazing that he doesn’t:

not in your face pronouncing on every matter under the sun. We easily go weeks without seeing or hearing him.

When the admin makes a mistake, its not based on a presidential impulse

He doesn’t make policy by 1:00 am tweet.

He doesn’t do culture wars or antagonize individual Rs. Or citizens.

No exec level scandals I can think of (real ones). No one investigated or indicted or tried or jailed etc.

What a boring, efficient presidency…

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William Lewis  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:17:47pm

re: #21 austin_blue

That Washburn Telecaster knock-off sounded damned good, which begs the question:

Why not buy a Telecaster?

His signature guitar. For the price, I’d stick with PRS.

smile.amazon.com

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:18:08pm

Just Squeaking around

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austin_blue  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:18:30pm

re: #22 EstebanTornado1963

I would love to slap this driving range pro across his smug little face.

Well people making over $400,000/ year are going to pay for it, unless Dark Brandon gets a hard-on and decides that driving-range pros will get a 5% bump in their Federal Income Tax to help pay for it, too.

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:19:39pm
Ghislaine Maxwell was sued by the longtime attorneys who helped defend her on sex-trafficking charges, alleging she owes them $878,302.66.

The lawsuit, filed in Colorado by Denver-based Haddon Morgan and Foreman, names as co-defendants her brother, Kevin Maxwell, and her husband Scott Borgerson, who married the British socialite “in our about August 2015.” Ghislaine Maxwell told the law firm that her brother would pay their fees, according to the complaint.

Ghislaine Maxwell’s Lawyers Sue Her for $878,000 in Unpaid Bills (Bloomberg)

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:21:32pm

re: #26 austin_blue

Well people making over $400,000/ year are going to pay for it, unless Dark Brandon gets a hard-on and decides that driving-range pros will get a 5% bump in their Federal Income Tax to help pay for it, too.

If it goes on the national debt, no one’s “paying” for it outright.

Further a citizen funded government could never always only pay for things you find acceptable. Unless you’re the only citizen. Maybe not even then.

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wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:23:04pm
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austin_blue  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:25:18pm

So we’re eating dinner and I see some action in the back yard. Vixen Grey Fox. She’s been hanging around for the past few weeks. Classic vulpine, big bottle brush tail, but then She Who Must Be Obeyed says “That was a kit that ran across the back yard in front of Guest House.”

So, we’ve got Fox bebes.

I would like to welcome all of them to Bouldin Creek.

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:28:44pm

re: #30 austin_blue

So we’re eating dinner and I see some action in the back yard. Vixen Grey Fox. She’s been hanging around for the past few weeks. Classic vulpine, big bottle brush tail, but then She Who Must Be Obeyed says “That was a kit that ran across the back yard in front of Guest House.”

So, we’ve got Fox bebes.

I would like to welcome all of them to Bouldin Creek.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:29:14pm

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

She’s been on the telephone to Canada already a couple times over the ferry services’ poorly-designed Websites.

Many demand a cellular telephone number and will not let you complete the form without one. She’s been getting telephone agents to manually put through the data since several of the Websites are useless without a cell phone.

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:29:21pm

re: #31 Dangerman

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Yeah like you weren’t all thinking it

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:31:01pm

And vice versa re inland floods, tornados etc

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:32:55pm

That’ll be their next attack
We can’t allow a vote on this because…

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EstebanTornado1963  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:34:13pm

re: #26 austin_blue
He’s played on the PGA Tour so he’s probably worth couple million, so he’s just being a dick.
And he’s a “born again Christian”

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:35:47pm

re: #2 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Not just a lefty — a TRANS!
We all know how Conservatives demonize transgender women.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:38:27pm

re: #35 Dangerman

That’ll be their next attack
We can’t allow a vote on this because…

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This chart:

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So it’s even more lopsided than the polling was before. 10% of Californians, who in the abstract opposed abortion because it was never going to go away, found out about reality. 10% in other states would shift almost all of them over the edge.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:42:28pm
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jeffreyw  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:43:35pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I live in a fringe reception area, usually have only 1 bar signal so my phone always goes to wifi phone service. It’s Verizon, I suspect other providers have the same deal. Is that a thing you have looked at?

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darthstar  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:46:39pm

I think I found a way to get GOP congresscritters to pay back their PPP loans…

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austin_blue  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:58:00pm

re: #36 EstebanTornado1963

He’s played on the PGA Tour so he’s probably worth couple million, so he’s just being a dick.
And he’s a “born again Christian”

Well, that’s a thing. If you’re playing on the PGA tour, with a tour card, you are probably paying $4,000 a week for travel, housing, food, and keeping your bespoke caddie alive.

You better make some cuts, or you are going to be a driving range pro because your short game sucks.

And there he is. A driving range pro.

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Mike Lamb  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:58:44pm

Is the $300B being floated even a legit number?

And isn’t that money already on the tab, so to speak?

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EstebanTornado1963  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:02:38pm

re: #42 austin_blue
Don’t know how much pro golf is followed here, but because of recent events, golfers will now get paid a lot more, including for missing cuts, but that asshole still has a problem with regular joe catching a break.

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austin_blue  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:06:57pm

re: #43 Mike Lamb

Is the $300B being floated even a legit number?

And isn’t that money already on the tab, so to speak?

Maybe, maybe not. The CBO has not jumped in, and the R’s are notorious for exatterating costs for any D program to help the middle class.

Let’s keep the powder dry and see what transgresses.

(old Hands On A Hard Body reference)

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:07:03pm
In the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, Mehmet Oz—aka Dr. Oz—repeatedly emailed top-level Trump administration officials, urging them to push the ineffective malaria drug, hydroxychloroquine, to treat COVID-19 based on scant, sketchy data from a now-disgraced French researcher.

Emails from the notorious celebrity doctor were revealed for the first time Wednesday in a report from the House select subcommittee on the coronavirus crisis. The report, titled “A ‘Knife Fight’ with the FDA,” delved into how the Trump administration worked to undermine, pressure, and bully the Food and Drug Administration during the pandemic.

Specifically, it unearthed how the Trump White House pressured the FDA to bend safety standards so that COVID-19 vaccines could be released before election day. It also revealed the tenacious efforts and subterfuge by top Trump trade advisor Peter Navarro and advisor Steven Hatfill to pressure the FDA into supporting the use of the debunked malaria drug. The report’s title stems from a direct quote from Hatfill that the White House had a “knife fight scheduled with the FDA” over hydroxychloroquine.

Dr. Oz emailed Trump admin. to push notoriously useless COVID treatment (ARSTECHNICA)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:16:21pm

Note to Canada: The ArriveCAN Website is a PITA to use. After wrestling for the better part of an hour, I finally managed to upload two vaccine card photos and enter passport data.

I’ll bet Our Esteemed Host could have designed a Website in under an hour which does everything the Canada Border Services Agency Website does, and be far-less user-antagonistic.

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austin_blue  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:19:59pm

Are you kidding me? This is ancient news:

nbcnews.com

That’s 2020!

Why is this even being reported?

It’s as much bullshit today as it was in 2020.

Fuck NBC.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:21:44pm

re: #48 austin_blue

Are you kidding me? This is ancient news:

nbcnews.com

That’s 2020!

Why is this even being reported?

It’s as much bullshit today as I was in 2020.

Fuck NBC.

It’s being reported, I think, because it came out that trump tried to pressure the FDA to approve it.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:24:00pm
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austin_blue  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:25:10pm

re: #49 I Would Prefer Not To

It’s being reported, I think, because it came out that trump tried to pressure the FDA to approve it.

Then indict the motherfucker and let’s go to court.

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darthstar  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:27:31pm

Okay…this is cool.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:27:34pm

re: #51 austin_blue

Then indict the motherfucker and let’s go to court.

I’m not holding the DOJ back.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:28:53pm
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darthstar  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:29:06pm

re: #53 I Would Prefer Not To

I’m not holding the DOJ back.

Yes you are! Stop obstructing!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:29:51pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:32:01pm

Many places in the world yesterday Amazon hosted a Rings of Power freebie premier of the first two episodes, and the early reviews are very positive as Uproxx observes:

The First ‘LOTR: The Rings Of Power’ Reactions Are Calling The Amazon Series ‘Big, Bold, And Beautiful To Behold’

They are using this screen shot for the article photo:

The second female dwarf from the right, with the… boob armor… I thought the general consensus was those things are a bad idea. See:

It’s Time to Retire “Boob Plate” Armor. Because It Would Kill You.

Still, it’s sort of Wagnerian.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:34:23pm

Maybe it’s not armor, just black leather?

Perhaps the dwarves are a bit into kink?

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austin_blue  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:40:57pm

I’m off to the rack. I’m not following the Rings of Power, or whatever the next Star Wars thingie is, I’m pretty much Star War’d out. Happy trails to all who are into that shit.

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JC1  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:41:00pm

re: #52 darthstar

Okay…this is cool.

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If the price tag is still 200k per drone, that’s like 45 mini drones. Doesn’t seem like much. Insane price for something so tiny that can be mass produced.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:43:12pm

re: #34 Dangerman

And vice versa re inland floods, tornados etc

<—- Checks notes. Was a Navy Recruiter in notably-red Massachusetts.

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Captain Ron  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:43:18pm

re: #56 GlutenFreeJesus

currently I see $94.30 on futures.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:49:14pm

re: #40 jeffreyw

I live in a fringe reception area, usually have only 1 bar signal so my phone always goes to wifi phone service. It’s Verizon, I suspect other providers have the same deal. Is that a thing you have looked at?

We have no cell service. Nebraska is a big black hole, because the state regulatory environment requires such things as “protecting consumer privacy” (in the state constitution) and “fees must relate to an actual service or product.”

So other than on the fringes of the state, there is no cell service except along Interstates and major US highways.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:51:01pm

My wife just ran into another user-antagonistic Canadian ferry reservation site. It requires a work telephone number as well as a cell phone number.

On the telephone again to Canada now.

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Egregious Philbin  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:54:08pm

re: #50 Belafon

And you know that at least one of those two robots were really turned on by it, but the other person….peer pressure…..

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 24, 2022 • 8:57:25pm

re: #62 Captain Ron

Suddenly low crude oil price is bad for Biden. *snicker*

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 9:07:21pm

re: #13 Belafon

Just call the loan forgiveness “The Year of Jubilee” and be done with it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 9:16:06pm

Photos of a forced-birther’s car.

Fruitcake at my office building with crucified baby dolls in the back seat. (Reddit’s r/ReligiousFruitcake)

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2022 • 9:24:40pm

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Sherlock Hound  Aug 24, 2022 • 9:27:14pm

re: #60 JC1

If the price tag is still 200k per drone, that’s like 45 mini drones. Doesn’t seem like much. Insane price for something so tiny that can be mass produced.

Someone further down in the thread quoted $15K.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 9:30:46pm

re: #69 Belafon

Huh. Nebraska Republicans have been insisting for years the reason young people leave the state is because our property taxes are amongst the highest in the nation (a tax almost no young people pay because they do not own taxable property).

On property taxes, the state constitution requires county, city, and village governments to be financed solely by property taxes. Every time the GOP goes on their annual rant about lowering property taxes, any bill they offer fails because it is unconstitutional.

I’d bet a nickel if you put an amendment on the ballot to change funding for local governments to lower property taxes, that would fly across the finish line. Somehow, the GOP never suggests doing that.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 9:39:56pm

Don’t Christians trot out the old canard “we are under a new Covenant” any time a not-Christian points them at quotes in the Old Testament?

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2022 • 9:43:29pm

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2022 • 9:55:19pm

It’s Schrodinger’s Student Loan Forgiveness: Half the people think $20K isn’t enough relief, the other half think even $1 in relief is tantamount to human sacrifice.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 9:57:27pm

re: #73 Belafon

You don’t even need to use the Old Testament.

Acts 2:44-45 (NIV)

44 All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45 They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need.

I’m not seeing too many of the Supply-Side Jesus worshippers doing that.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:00:41pm

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You don’t even need to use the Old Testament.

Acts 2:44-45 (NIV)

44 All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45 They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need.

I’m not seeing too many of the Supply-Side Jesus worshippers doing that.

True, but we’re specifically talking about forgiveness.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:05:05pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:19:07pm

My wife just completed our reservation to stay at a hotel and brewery in Dildo, Newfoundland. I fully intend to send a crapload of postcards from Dildo.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:20:21pm

re: #78 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My wife just completed our reservation to stay at a hotel and brewery in Dildo, Newfoundland. I fully intend to send a crapload of postcards from Dildo.

Pics or it aint real.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:20:25pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:22:28pm

re: #79 I Would Prefer Not To

Pics or it aint real.

When we get there, I’ll post pics here. I’ll be posting another photographic travelogue here (the last one I did was on Nebraska waterfalls).

dildobrewingco.com

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:23:48pm

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

When we get there, I’ll post pics here. I’ll be posting another photographic travelogue here (the last one I did was on Nebraska waterfalls).

dildobrewingco.com

Looking forward to seeing the pic. Safe travels.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:24:47pm

re: #82 I Would Prefer Not To

Looking forward to seeing the pic. Safe travels.

One of the beers the brewery sells is the “Stout Dildo” (on their Website).

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:27:55pm

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

When we get there, I’ll post pics here. I’ll be posting another photographic travelogue here (the last one I did was on Nebraska waterfalls).

dildobrewingco.com

Have a wonderful trip!! Enjoy yourselves.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:30:42pm

re: #79 I Would Prefer Not To

Pics or it aint real.

Dildo, Newfoundland and Labrador

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Captain Ron  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:35:49pm

re: #85 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I’m going to have to change my handle.

Or I could go full ‘Captain Condom’ with my matching shirt and hat!

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:38:56pm

re: #80 Belafon

What the guy got away with is nuts: en.m.wikipedia.org

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Captain Ron  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:44:48pm

Captain Condom says, “Wrap that wrascle.”

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Captain Ron  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:02:38pm
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Captain Ron  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:15:14pm
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Captain Ron  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:20:13pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:22:19pm

in short, the National archives knew that stuff was taken by trump when he left office. The letters from Obama and Kim Jong Un were missing.

Lawrence: Trump Love Letters Tipped Off The Archives

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:39:26pm

re: #91 Captain Ron

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The more one reads the stories from the whiners that think it’s “unfair” that they paid off their loans and others will get relief from theirs, the more obvious it becomes that my entire generation was lied to. We were told that getting a college education would get us into those big, high-paying jobs right away that would see us living comfortably within a few years. But instead, I’ve lost count of the number of stories I’ve seen from these sadsacks moaning about working two jobs and living off mayonnaise sandwiches in a tiny one-bedroom broom closet instead of being a CEO by age 25. And how the only “fair” thing would be for every college student to suffer like they did.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:46:04pm

re: #93 Targetpractice

And the current generation of teenagers are being lied to, too.

I’m extremely negative about how education is done in the US.

Grade schools are treated as free baby-sitting.

Secondary school is about grooming the young to fill the expectations of parents.

Colleges are now treated as warm-up for 1) corporate employment or 2) professional sports.

Right now, if some 16yo asked me if they should go to college, I’d ask them if they like studying hard subjects. If they say no then I’d tell them to become very very good in some craft, save themselves from college debt, and make it out in the big world of commerce and industry.

If a young person wants to study some topic then by all means they should pursue that and get a degree.

But a degree does not imply a high-paying job waits for one at the end.

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Captain Ron  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:53:45pm

re: #94 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

But a degree does not imply a high-paying job waits for one at the end.

Tell me about it. My oldest has an English degree from UCB. She’s going back to school for useful training.

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:54:50pm

re: #94 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

And the current generation of teenagers are being lied to, too.

I’m extremely negative about how education is done in the US.

Grade schools are treated as free baby-sitting.

Secondary school is about grooming the young to fill the expectations of parents.

Colleges are now treated as warm-up for 1) corporate employment or 2) professional sports.

Right now, if some 16yo asked me if they should go to college, I’d ask them if they like studying hard subjects. If they say no then I’d tell them to become very very good in some craft, save themselves from college debt, and make it out in the big world of commerce and industry.

If a young person wants to study some topic then by all means they should pursue that and get a degree.

But a degree does not imply a high-paying job waits for one at the end.

I’d tell them to check and see if there are any trade schools that appeal to them and to look into attending those, as the debt is usually smaller and they’d learn a trade as opposed to having years of book learning crammed into their skulls.

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Captain Ron  Aug 25, 2022 • 12:31:31am
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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2022 • 12:36:36am

My 222nd game. The streak is 12. The puzzle is a 5.

Wordle 432 5/6

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No Malarkey!  Aug 25, 2022 • 12:47:23am

re: #35 Dangerman

That’ll be their next attack
We can’t allow a vote on this because…

Like Kansas, Kentucky is voting on abortion in November because the forced birthers put it on the ballot back when they were sure it would pass easily. It might still pass because Kentucky is very socially conservative, but it’s no sure thing.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2022 • 12:51:22am

re: #97 Captain Ron

I saw that earlier; it reinforced my suspicion that an air campaign against Russian positions in eastern Ukraine/Crimea would most likely be enough to defeat the Russian forces in those areas.

They’d simply run away in a blind panic if they were subjected to a relentless Desert Storm-style bombing campaign. It would be an absolute rout. Even their much-vaunted theater air defense would prove to be largely hapless in the face of a full-on NATO aerial campaign.

A quick and decisive defeat of Russia’s forces in Ukraine would likely lead to the breakup of the Russian Federation in the more medium term, as the constituent republics that compose the RF would quickly see that they’re dealing with a paper tiger - a paper tiger that has been effectively declawed.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 25, 2022 • 12:56:10am

re: #91 Captain Ron

Hey, Rep. Jordon (who never wrote a bill in Congress), if you’re so concerned about people who already paid off college loans, you’re free to write a bill for retroactive repayments.

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2022 • 12:57:16am

The newest dishwasher at work is a 16 year old skater, who just got what looks like his back-to-school haircut. It’s about a half inch shorter than it was, and everybody noticed. A week ago, I cut two feet of hair off, and nobody noticed. Stealth haircut. Since my hair had to be up at work, now my ponytail, short enough to be down, just looks like what ever was stuck to the back of my head before has fallen down. Folks were too polite to say anything.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 25, 2022 • 1:01:25am

re: #99 No Malarkey!

Like Kansas, Kentucky is voting on abortion in November because the forced birthers put it on the ballot back when they were sure it would pass easily. It might still pass because Kentucky is very socially conservative, but it’s no sure thing.

If we can beat back a virtual abortion ban in the Nebraska Unicameral (twice without outside attention or help), I’m guessing much more liberal Kentucky should be able to do the same with the nation watching such ballot measures.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 25, 2022 • 1:10:49am

Scott Esk, the Republican running for an Oklahoma House seat who said it was your Christian duty to stone LGBT+ people to death, has lost the runoff primary in his district.

He finished first in the primary but did not have sufficient votes to win outright. That statement finished him off against the second-place candidate.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 25, 2022 • 1:17:35am

Governor Henry McMaster violating the South Carolina Constitution again.

thestate.com

South Carolina State Budget, 2022-2023 (pdf)

Tucked away in there is a $1,500,000 grant to Christian Learning Centers of Greenville County.

This is not the first time Gov. McMaster has violated the state constitution. He also diverted Covid relief funds to vouchers for Christian segregation academies.

Via newspaper The State:

… the generous allocation of taxpayer dollars to Christian Learning Centers of Greenville County appears to violate the state Constitution, University of South Carolina law professor Derek Black said.

“If the state is cutting a check to an organization to build or finance the infrastructure of a private educational institution, that sounds like a pretty explicit direct contradiction of what the Constitution says,” said Black, a national expert in education law who directs the university’s Constitutional Law Center.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 25, 2022 • 1:21:25am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

In the previous case of diverting Covid relief funds, the state Supreme Court ruled unanimously against the state governor.

If someone brings a case, this should be an easier case, since the money is to explicitly build infrastructure for one Christian religious organisation (ostensibly to build a facility for “at risk” youth) which has a strict “no Jews allowed” policy.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2022 • 1:28:50am

re: #99 No Malarkey!

Like Kansas, Kentucky is voting on abortion in November because the forced birthers put it on the ballot back when they were sure it would pass easily. It might still pass because Kentucky is very socially conservative, but it’s no sure thing.

The FB crowd in Kansas figured they had a sure thing by putting their trojan horse on the primary ballot rather than putting it to voters on Election Day because they knew KS Dems traditionally are no-shows for most of their party’s own primary races as either nobody runs or they run unopposed. Which is why it was such a massive shock that the vote not only came down in favor of choice, but it also was so lop-sided that it’s been impossible for the CTers to convincingly make a case for “fraud.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 25, 2022 • 1:33:47am

Another sign “inflation” is not the boogeyman the GOP thinks they can make it out to be.

Americans Show Few Signs of “Ukraine Fatigue” (August 18, 2022, public opinion survey, Chicago Council on Global Affairs)

Link includes the summary and an internal link to the questions and topline data.

Majorities continue to support US economic and diplomatic sanctions against Russia (80%), accepting Ukrainian refugees into the United States (76%), providing additional arms and military supplies to the Ukrainian government (72%), and giving economic assistance to Ukraine (71%).

Nearly four in 10 support sending US troops to defend Ukraine (38%).

By a six-to-four ratio, Americans say the United States should support Ukraine for as long as it takes, even if American households will have to pay higher gas and food prices in consequence. However, there are significant partisan differences.

Nearly two-thirds think the invasion sets a precedent that other countries can launch wars for territorial gain (64%).

An even larger majority believes the Russian invasion will encourage China to invade Taiwan (76%).

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JC1  Aug 25, 2022 • 1:37:33am

3/6 not bad.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 25, 2022 • 1:44:36am

re: #109 JC1

3/6 not bad.

I didn’t find it funny.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 25, 2022 • 1:44:43am

re: #107 Targetpractice

The FB crowd in Kansas figured they had a sure thing by putting their trojan horse on the primary ballot rather than putting it to voters on Election Day because they knew KS Dems traditionally are no-shows for most of their party’s own primary races as either nobody runs or they run unopposed. Which is why it was such a massive shock that the vote not only came down in favor of choice, but it also was so lop-sided that it’s been impossible for the CTers to convincingly make a case for “fraud.”

They thought they had locked in an overwhelmingly Republican electorate because Kansas has closed primaries, but Independents turned out in unprecedented numbers just to vote No with the Democrats.

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ericblair  Aug 25, 2022 • 1:47:18am

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Another sign “inflation” is not the boogeyman the GOP thinks they can make it out to be.

Americans Show Few Signs of “Ukraine Fatigue” (August 18, 2022, public opinion survey, Chicago Council on Global Affairs)

Link includes the summary and an internal link to the questions and topline data.

That’s what I thought. I remember a couple of months ago a whole buncha people started talking about how other people were tired of funding Ukraine. I didn’t actually hear people say that THEY were tired of funding Ukraine. So this was pretty obviously a propaganda push.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 25, 2022 • 2:17:50am

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Note to Canada: The ArriveCAN Website is a PITA to use. After wrestling for the better part of an hour, I finally managed to upload two vaccine card photos and enter passport data.

I’ll bet Our Esteemed Host could have designed a Website in under an hour which does everything the Canada Border Services Agency Website does, and be far-less user-antagonistic.

Yeah, it’s not the most easily navigable web site for the first time user. Even Canadians hate the damn thing. But once you DO manage to get all your data put in, return visits are actually a breeze to schedule. And good morning Lizards. Last nights dinner. Instant Pot Spaghetti. Simple, quick and tasty.

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TarHellion  Aug 25, 2022 • 2:36:35am

Keeping the good run going. Friday Eve and Payday Eve! A great day/night to all the Lizards!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 25, 2022 • 2:37:43am

I’m off to bed. Later today is the big prep for the long road trip. Catch y’all later.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 25, 2022 • 2:49:21am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 3:49:08am

Since Russia has been cut off from imported American guitars, they have introduced their own model, the Vladocaster.

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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 25, 2022 • 3:57:57am

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Since Russia has been cut off from imported American guitars, they have introduced their own model, the Vladocaster.

You don’t play the guitar, the guitar plays you!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 4:10:51am

re: #57 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The second female dwarf from the right, with the… boob armor… I thought the general consensus was those things are a bad idea. See:

It’s Time to Retire “Boob Plate” Armor. Because It Would Kill You.

Still, it’s sort of Wagnerian.

I always thought that boob armor was more an offensive weapon than defensive armor…

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 25, 2022 • 4:15:01am

I’m almost disappointed. That ended entirely predictably.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 25, 2022 • 4:17:23am

Ancient history with the BBC as they peek back at… (checks calendar) Myspace:

Youtube Video


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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 4:29:27am

re: #56 GlutenFreeJesus

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Putting the lie aside

How much worse would it have been without the release?
They never address that kind of thing

And domestic strategic reserve releases affect gas prices not global oil prices so much

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Ming5000  Aug 25, 2022 • 4:47:38am

Was just in the car and Morning J had on a pundit from Washington Examiner.
I didn’t catch his name. He was very down on the student loan plan in a very Chuck Toddish way

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 25, 2022 • 4:51:03am

re: #123 Ming5000

Was just in the car and Morning J had on a pundit from Washington Examiner.
I didn’t catch his name. He was very down on the student loan plan in a very Chuck Toddish way

The only fault I can find with it is that, like any other executive branch plan, it can simply be undone once a Republican wins the presidency. And given how vindictive those bastards are, I wouldn’t be surprised if they found a way to retroactively add the interest lost back to the people who benefited.

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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 4:51:42am

Just Lizzing around

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Ming5000  Aug 25, 2022 • 4:56:08am

re: #124 Dopamine Fish

There are many variables involved with the potential impacts. I feel comfortable with relying on the people involved in the compromise.

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jeffreyw  Aug 25, 2022 • 4:56:59am

Good morning!

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Ming5000  Aug 25, 2022 • 5:01:39am

re: #127 jeffreyw

I endorse your toast buttering plan.

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Ming5000  Aug 25, 2022 • 5:05:52am

Kaitlyn Collins didn’t get the answer that she was hoping for.

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Ming5000  Aug 25, 2022 • 5:28:56am

Another stress relief.

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2022 • 5:52:05am

GOPers suck at math.
GOPers suck at reading comprehension.

GOPers excel at agitprop and misinformation. They are lockstep on their talking points about Biden’s student loan program details.

GOP: Biden’s plan adds to inflation. Biden’s plan adds to debt. Biden’s plan is unfair to anyone who doesn’t have a student loan.

Reality:

GOP never gave a crap about the $2 trillion in debt they saddled the nation with for the TCJA tax scam that delivered huge tax cuts for millionaires and corporations (including a massive tax cut for companies). That shifts the tax burden for generating govt revenues to everyone else.

Meanwhile, the Biden plan caps benefits to those making under $125,000. Most people graduate school are not making six figures. Most people aren’t making six figures for years after graduating. Obviously, there are fields where six figure jobs are more likely, but you know which ones don’t?

Teaching. Nursing. Home health care. MSWs.

Professions that are essential to functioning society, but aren’t valued by … the GOP.

I don’t personally directly benefit from a program that forgives student loan debt because I don’t have debt. I graduated with a lot of debt, but that was 20+ years ago. But given the pandemic and the harms to the economy, forgiving debt is useful to help people get their lives going, paying off other debts, starting families, buying housing, starting businesses, etc. That ultimately benefits me indirectly, because economic growth helps everyone. This particular aid is more targeted than tax cuts for billionaires. It’s not trickle down bulkshit but actual benefits to people who need aid the most.

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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 5:57:07am

Someone asked about Gaetz last night

Eight people with direct knowledge of the probe confirmed to the Daily Beast that the case against Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) “is still unfolding—albeit at a methodical pace—as federal prosecutors work their way across a number of spokes of possible criminality.”

“While each zone has its own sets of witnesses, subjects, and targets, all of it spirals out from one man: a crooked local tax official and Gaetz’s former ‘wingman,’ Joel Greenberg.”

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Ming5000  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:00:47am

re: #133 Dangerman

And Greenberg is cooperating! Nice!

Greenberg plead guilty to the charges in May 2021 as part of a plea agreement to six federal charges, including the sex trafficking of a minor, and agreed to assist prosecutors in their investigation.

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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:01:40am

re: #132 lawhawk

GOPers suck at math.
GOPers suck at reading comprehension.

GOPers excel at agitprop and misinformation. They are lockstep on their talking points about Biden’s student loan program details.

GOP: Biden’s plan adds to inflation. Biden’s plan adds to debt. Biden’s plan is unfair to anyone who doesn’t have a student loan.

Reality:

GOP never gave a crap about the $2 trillion in debt they saddled the nation with for the TCJA tax scam that delivered huge tax cuts for millionaires and corporations (including a massive tax cut for companies). That shifts the tax burden for generating govt revenues to everyone else.

Meanwhile, the Biden plan caps benefits to those making under $125,000. Most people graduate school are not making six figures. Most people aren’t making six figures for years after graduating. Obviously, there are fields where six figure jobs are more likely, but you know which ones don’t?

Teaching. Nursing. Home health care. MSWs.

Professions that are essential to functioning society, but aren’t valued by … the GOP.

I don’t personally directly benefit from a program that forgives student loan debt because I don’t have debt. I graduated with a lot of debt, but that was 20+ years ago. But given the pandemic and the harms to the economy, forgiving debt is useful to help people get their lives going, paying off other debts, starting families, buying housing, starting businesses, etc. That ultimately benefits me indirectly, because economic growth helps everyone. This particular aid is more targeted than tax cuts for billionaires. It’s not trickle down bulkshit but actual benefits to people who need aid the most.

Gop hates anything that helps lots of “ordinary” people
Gop loves anything they can bash by somehow twist-tieing it to finances and “taxes”
Gop hates anything that could influence a lot of voters

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:03:26am

Should have been asking for harsher sentencing for all them. But better late than never.

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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:04:15am
Former President Donald Trump slammed Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) as “a pawn for the Democrats” and said he should “immediately” be replaced, the HuffPost reports.

Said Trump: “Mitch McConnell is not an Opposition Leader, he is a pawn for the Democrats to get whatever they want. He is afraid of them, and will not do what has to be done.”

This could be fun to watch

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:09:57am

re: #137 Dangerman

GOP in disarray. Fascist on fascist infighting.

McConnell is probably the most effective GOPer on the national stage at taking advantage of the law and rules to bend and stretch them to favor the GOP. Without McConnell, the GOP would not have been able to game the SCOTUS and other courts with right wing extremists and deny Obama seating Merrick Garland on SCOTUS.

Trump directly benefited from those decisions by McConnell. So of course Trump’s attacking McConnell when McConnell doesn’t pay fealty to Trump, because that’s all Trump cares about.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:10:31am

re: #137 Dangerman

Yes! The only way to own the libs is to boycott voting.

GQPers, if you’re listening, you must boycott the midterms this year! If you vote, the government-issued microwave ovens will listen in on you having relations with your wives, shed a blinding light on Matt Gaetz’s perfectly legal underground sex trafficking ring and free the children in his very Christian kiddie porn dungeon.

LOL, these people are batshit insane.

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Ming5000  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:11:56am

The exorbitant interest rate angle to the student loan crisis escaped me until now.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:16:03am

re: #140 Ming5000

The exorbitant interest rate angle to the student loan crisis escaped me until now.

Yeah. Student loans are basically predatory, betting on the fact that fresh grads won’t be able to pay them off for years/decades as they slowly work their way up to a wage where they can afford to live in America and pay more than the minimum payment on their loans. And that’s why student loan forgiveness is such a big deal; for people who were advantaged enough to go straight into high-paying jobs and pay them off early, that’s great, but the world doesn’t work like that anymore. The majority of college grads get stuck making a middling wage while their loan interest builds up to absurd levels.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:27:10am

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:30:48am

re: #141 Dopamine Fish

Federal student loans have capped interest rates. Private loans have no such caps, and can be variable. Loans can be refinanced, and those rates are also variable/capped, depending on the lender.

I recall that some of my loans included a cap of 8.25%, but Pell had lower rate, and some of my loans were lower. That includes graduate loans, which start off higher.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:33:53am

re: #140 Ming5000

in other words, these people have already repaid their loans, what we are offering is forgiveness on their interest

This is like when credit card companies sell uncollected debt at say 40 cents on the dollar: it’s not like they are actually losing money in most cases, those 60 cents are simply interest, compound interest and late fees.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:34:21am

re: #87 Belafon

What the guy got away with is nuts: en.m.wikipedia.org

Not half as nuts as a conman and liar and “reality star”, whose history is available information, who is infamous for bankruptcies and refusing to pay his contractors, who publicly asks the leader of a hostile power for assistance, managing to persuade enough people to vote for him to become president of the United States and become the leader of a cult that threatens to destroy the most powerful and wealthiest nation on the planet. That is truly nuts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:38:05am

re: #145 Hecuba’s daughter

Not half as nuts as a conman and liar and “reality star”, whose history is available information, who is infamous for bankruptcies and refusing to pay his contractors, who publicly asks the leader of a hostile power for assistance, managing to persuade enough people to vote for him to become president of the United States and become the leader of a cult that threatens to destroy the most powerful and wealthiest nation on the planet. That is truly nuts.

He sold himself as the Ultimate Outsider and anti-politician, a conduit for alienated, frustrated voters to vent their rage at the Powers that Be. The fact that he had no record of public service was seen as a positive thing

And the GOP failed to recognize that he was no Team Player: while he demanded absolute loyalty, he was never about to reciprocate by putting the party ahead of his personal interests, even temporarily or to a limited degree.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:44:58am

I have substantial student loan debt that I have been paying on for almost a decade and will continue to pay back for another decade. Although I don’t qualify for the Biden plan, I am happy so many people will benefit. Honestly, you would have to be a selfish and self-absorbed fuckwad to be “outraged” that someone other than you is getting a small break.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:50:23am

re: #147 Dr. Matt

They are selfish and self-absorbed fuckwads. That’s literally their entire problem. Everything they do, everything they say, boils down to: But what about ME? How does this help ME?

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:50:50am
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William Lewis  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:53:30am

re: #149 Dopamine Fish

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:55:10am

re: #149 Dopamine Fish

I really can’t get over the irony of the “Christian values” folks being adamantly against debt forgiveness when debt forgiveness is, like, the entire gist of Christianity.

Jesus forgives the guy on his death bed, and they get the same treatment as the devout lifetime follower.

“That’s only meant in the metaphorical and spiritual sense. When it comes to MONEY you Render Unto Caesar with extreme prejudice!!!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:57:16am

re: #150 William Lewis

Just a good reminder that there are almost no people _practicing_ Christianity in America no matter how many may squeal that they are Christian.

I beg to differ. There are plenty of people practicing Christianity in America, they are just not the ones who are getting all noisy in your face about it, but rather simply leading good and moral lives - as Christianity teaches.

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danarchy  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:57:53am

Clearly an unpopular opinion here, but I do not like the debt forgiveness plan. I have no problem with debt forgiveness in general, I just don’t like the way it is being done. One man should not have the authority to spend 400 billion dollars unilaterally. I get that congress is hopeless right now, but I still don’t think that means we should lean in to authoritarian solutions. People from Nancy Pelosi to the actual education secretary as recently as last year were saying the president didn’t have the authority to do this. I don’t know if he is threading the needle legally, but even if he is, I don’t think he should be.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:58:12am

re: #138 lawhawk

GOP in disarray. Fascist on fascist infighting.

McConnell is probably the most effective GOPer on the national stage at taking advantage of the law and rules to bend and stretch them to favor the GOP. Without McConnell, the GOP would not have been able to game the SCOTUS and other courts with right wing extremists and deny Obama seating Merrick Garland on SCOTUS.

Trump directly benefited from those decisions by McConnell. So of course Trump’s attacking McConnell when McConnell doesn’t pay fealty to Trump, because that’s all Trump cares about.

Comey gave the Presidency to Trump; and Trump dumped him quickly because he didn’t pledge his undying loyalty to the traitor.

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William Lewis  Aug 25, 2022 • 6:59:53am

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I beg to differ. There are plenty of people practicing Christianity in America, they are just not the ones who are getting all noisy in your face about it, but rather simply leading good and moral lives - as Christianity teaches.

I know a fair number of them. That said when I look at the ratio of practicing vs claiming, I stand by my statement. Too many have fallen into the Forced Birth and “only the rich are chosen” traps among other problems.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:00:38am

re: #153 danarchy

Clearly an unpopular opinion here, but I do not like the debt forgiveness plan. I have no problem with debt forgiveness in general, I just don’t like the way it is being done. One man should not have the authority to spend 400 billion dollars unilaterally.

I agree that I don’t like the way it is being done, but the fact that Biden has to do it this way is because government has failed to address the student debt crisis to date.

It is a drain on our nation and our economy and needs to be fixed, as does the issue of how higher education is to be financed in general.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:03:25am

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

In the previous case of diverting Covid relief funds, the state Supreme Court ruled unanimously against the state governor.

If someone brings a case, this should be an easier case, since the money is to explicitly build infrastructure for one Christian religious organisation (ostensibly to build a facility for “at risk” youth) which has a strict “no Jews allowed” policy.

Why would a Jew even want to go there?

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Ming5000  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:05:02am

re: #141 Dopamine Fish

Yeah. Student loans are basically predatory, betting on the fact that fresh grads won’t be able to pay them off for years/decades as they slowly work their way up to a wage where they can afford to live in America and pay more than the minimum payment on their loans. And that’s why student loan forgiveness is such a big deal; for people who were advantaged enough to go straight into high-paying jobs and pay them off early, that’s great, but the world doesn’t work like that anymore. The majority of college grads get stuck making a middling wage while their loan interest builds up to absurd levels.

Awful. I missed this dreadful practice. 62 now and escaped with about $7,500 in fixed rate loans, and a three-year military deferment. Or was it 10years?
Edit to add: these were federal loans.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:05:07am

Also, I had a thought re: the abortion debate. The problem is, the religious nutjobs aren’t going to go for the “woman’s body, woman’s choice” argument, because of their die-on-this-hill belief that life begins at the instant of fertilization. Yes, we all know they’re wrong on this, but there is no convincing them of that, and I don’t think we should try. Rather, this is my thought:

Why does it matter?

Yes, yes, I know, the argument goes, “Abortion is murder because life begins at fertilization, and you’re killing a soul who is defenseless.” But that’s literally beside the point. As Christians, we are not supposed to be in the business of legislating morality; Paul emphasizes heavily that we are supposed to submit to our governing authorities, and that while we can - and sometimes should - engage in civil disobedience, it should only be to oppose laws that force us to act against the tenets of Christianity. It is God’s place to judge, not ours, and it isn’t right for us to impose human consequences for moral failings. Should we not forgive, as others have forgiven us? Therefore, we should not be forcibly banning abortion; we can advocate against the practice as a moral failure, if that’s what you believe, but banning it outright should only be done if the state has a vested interest in doing it. (Of course, the economics work out heavily in favor of permitting abortion.)

But, I hear you ask: Don’t we already ban murder of living human beings? Isn’t that a Christian rule as well? Isn’t it even in the freaking Ten Commandments? Yes, it is - but the state has a vested interest in preventing the murder of living human beings. It should be for the state to decide when the life, health, and safety of living persons is a viable state interest, not our religion.

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mmmirele  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:06:42am

re: #68 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Photos of a forced-birther’s car.

Fruitcake at my office building with crucified baby dolls in the back seat. (Reddit’s r/ReligiousFruitcake)

Ummm. You know, when I lived in Utah, I said it had more kooks per inhabited (*important caveat*) square mile. I’ve been to Louisville and this is out there on the fringe, but there’s a lot of crazy in Louisville. Of course, I contributed to the crazy for the four days I was there, as I was picketing “Together for the Gospel” which was platforming a guy who had covered up child sexual abuse.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:10:19am

re: #160 mmmirele

Ummm. You know, when I lived in Utah, I said it had more kooks per inhabited (*important caveat*) square mile. I’ve been to Louisville and this is out there on the fringe, but there’s a lot of crazy in Louisville. Of course, I contributed to the crazy for the four days I was there, as I was picketing “Together for the Gospel” which was platforming a guy who had covered up child sexual abuse.

My ex-GF had some serious (Catholic) right-to-lifer sisters back around the turn of the 80’s. Like ones who chained themselves to the gates of abortion clinics, etc.

I remember once sitting in the back seat of their car next to a box full of plastic fetus replicas to demonstrate the stages of development.

I had to seriously stifle me urge to start juggling them while singing “I don’t care if they hurt or beat us, long as I got my plastic fetus, ridin’ on the back seat of my car!”

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:11:20am

re: #150 William Lewis

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:15:06am

My workplace changed its 2FA from working by phone or Microsoft Authenticator to only using Microsoft Authenticator overnight without notifying us. This morning has been frustrating.

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Ming5000  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:17:02am

re: #163 Crush White Nationalism

That almost feels like sabotage.

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danarchy  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:17:10am

re: #156 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I agree that I don’t like the way it is being done, but the fact that Biden has to do it this way is because government has failed to address the student debt crisis to date.

It is a drain on our nation and our economy and needs to be fixed, as does the issue of how higher education is to be financed in general.

IMO opinion either you believe in democracy or you don’t and if you try to sidestep democratic institutions because they are not getting the results you want then what is the point. If you are saying our institutions are broken therefore authoritarian solutions are ok because this is important, well, there are lots of things the other side believe is important that I would rather not be done by executive fiat.

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Ming5000  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:18:36am

The Pell grant angle is another area where the student loan plan makes a good focus on less advantaged borrowers. Kamala is getting a lot of good press in the twitterverse for this.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:18:59am

re: #133 Dangerman

Someone asked about Gaetz last night

that was me. thanks.

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darthstar  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:19:33am

re: #136 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Should have been asking for harsher sentencing for all them. But better late than never.

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That mandatory ten bucks at the end really stings.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:19:37am

4/6

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darthstar  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:20:10am

re: #142 HRH Stanley Sea

Purty good.

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I actually got it in 2 today.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:20:56am

re: #163 Crush White Nationalism

My workplace changed its 2FA from working by phone or Microsoft Authenticator to only using Microsoft Authenticator overnight without notifying us. This morning has been frustrating.

We had a similar thing happen a while back. One of the senior managers was blaming my team for not reading the memo he sent out about the pending change a few days before it happened. Come to find out…he NEVER sent the memo! Of course, he claims he hit “send” and blamed our not getting it on a system problem. I guess it never occurred to him to send it AGAIN or maybe, I don’t know, ASK US IF WE GOT IT.

If you can’t tell, I don’t like working with this person.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:21:14am

More evidence that conservatism is a mental disorder:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:21:16am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:21:59am

re: #165 danarchy

IMO opinion either you believe in democracy or you don’t and if you try to sidestep democratic institutions because they are not getting the results you want then what is the point. If you are saying our institutions are broken therefore authoritarian solutions are ok because this is important, well, there are lots of things the other side believe is important that I would rather not be done by executive fiat.

executive fiat is a government institution, not a preferable choice but nonetheless an option when it is the only way to get things done.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:22:09am

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

Threatening people with prison? What the fuck?

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:22:19am

re: #164 Ming5000

That almost feels like sabotage.

The old IT team seemed like they worked for our competitors most of the time. This is the first time the current team has done something this dumb.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:22:26am

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He sold himself as the Ultimate Outsider and anti-politician, a conduit for alienated, frustrated voters to vent their rage at the Powers that Be. The fact that he had no record of public service was seen as a positive thing

And the GOP failed to recognize that he was no Team Player: while he demanded absolute loyalty, he was never about to reciprocate by putting the party ahead of his personal interests, even temporarily or to a limited degree.

He got them the presidency; he allowed them to get their tax cuts; he gave them free rein in legislation; he got them 3 judges on SCOTUS; he supported their anti-immigrant agenda. They were quite happy with him. The only action of his that displeased them was his behavior during the Georgia runoff elections which gave us the barest of Senate majorities and saved Biden’s presidency. Of course, some really did object to the January 6 insurrection but a strong majority of House Republicans supported it.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:22:49am
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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:23:45am

re: #172 Dr. Matt

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darthstar  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:23:48am

Sheesh.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:24:42am

re: #172 Dr. Matt

More evidence that conservatism is a mental disorder:

Nonetheless, the SWAT prank was a dick move and only handed MTG another victim card to play.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:25:10am

re: #179 lawhawk

Or if not their own, their kids or other family members.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:25:55am

re: #180 darthstar

Sheesh.

“Siri, show me the worst barbershop in the world.”

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:26:15am

re: #168 darthstar

That mandatory ten bucks at the end really stings.

I’m just glad the asswipe is going to be doing hard time for at least 10 years.

As for that 10 bucks? Just charge him interest on it like the various lenders of education loans do. I’m sure after 10 years of nonpayment it will be quite the tidy sum he owes. ///

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:26:22am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nonetheless, the SWAT prank was a dick move and only handed MTG another victim card to play.

I’m not 100% convinced that this was done by one of her opponents, assuming it’s even real. I hate to be so cynical, but these people have proven that they are despicable liars all the way to the bottom.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:26:35am

re: #178 The Pie Overlord!

Trump usually melts down like that when he’s received some particularly bad news.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:26:52am

re: #180 darthstar

Sheesh.

“Liberalism is a mental illness!” //

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:27:59am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nonetheless, the SWAT prank was a dick move and only handed MTG another victim card to play.

If it happened, does having a competing fascist send SWAT to her house really give her a victim card to play against the entirely unrelated people that she hates?

We can’t stop Republicans from always pretending to be victims while they’re actually perpetrators. They lie about everything.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:28:44am

re: #186 Dr Lizardo

Trump usually melts down like that when he’s received some particularly bad news.

Great minds, etc.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:29:18am
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William Lewis  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:30:04am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nonetheless, the SWAT prank was a dick move and only handed MTG another victim card to play.

IF it happened. There’d be video from her, taken by the cops if nothing else.

This is just another MTG lie.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:30:37am

More fucking bullshit

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:30:43am

re: #178 The Pie Overlord!

Guaranteed that his lawyers just told him something bad is about to happen to Trump, his businesses, or his coconspirators/accomplices.

He is trying to get out in front of the bad news (for him, good news for the rest of us).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:31:22am

re: #191 William Lewis

IF it happened. There’d be video from her, taken by the cops if nothing else.

This is just another MTG lie.

welp

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:32:34am

re: #189 Dopamine Fish

Trump’s predictable as hell. Yeah, maybe something’s going on we’re not privy to right now, but it’ll blow up in the news in the next day or so.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:34:01am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah right.

If that’s true, I’m the fucking Pope.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:34:21am

re: #193 lawhawk

Guaranteed that his lawyers just told him something bad is about to happen to Trump, his businesses, or his coconspirators/accomplices.

He is trying to get out in front of the bad news (for him, good news for the rest of us).

From the Popehat tweet replies:

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:35:18am
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Dopamine Fish  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:35:35am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

welp

“Swatted again?” Lady, excuse me, but what the fuck? I had one bad experience with the cops and spent hundreds to set myself up so that I could record them from my front porch if I needed to. What’s your excuse?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:36:04am

re: #188 Crush White Nationalism

If it happened, does having a competing fascist send SWAT to her house really give her a victim card to play against the entirely unrelated people that she hates?

We can’t stop Republicans from always pretending to be victims while they’re actually perpetrators. They lie about everything.

calling out a SWAT team when it is not needed is a dick move, regardless of who did it

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:36:07am

re: #197 Dr Lizardo

Dang, he actually looks more normal as a bald guy.

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:37:20am
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Dopamine Fish  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:37:25am

re: #200 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

calling out a SWAT team when it is not needed is a dick move, regardless of who did it

The conspiracy is that she knew it was coming because it was someone close to her/affiliated with her that made the call. Now, granted, there’s no evidence for that, but I want to see her evidence that it actually happened before I’ll even grant that much, let alone that it was done by a political opponent who’s out to get her.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:37:27am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nonetheless, the SWAT prank was a dick move and only handed MTG another victim card to play.

Sadly enough, even though it was MTG, I have to agree. But if it finally gets cloudflare to de-platform kiwi farms at least some good will have come of it. And yes, they (kiwi farms) ARE sweating about be de-platformed as no one wants to touch them with a 10ft pole.

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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:39:20am

re: #141 Dopamine Fish

Yeah. Student loans are basically predatory, betting on the fact that fresh grads won’t be able to pay them off for years/decades as they slowly work their way up to a wage where they can afford to live in America and pay more than the minimum payment on their loans. And that’s why student loan forgiveness is such a big deal; for people who were advantaged enough to go straight into high-paying jobs and pay them off early, that’s great, but the world doesn’t work like that anymore. The majority of college grads get stuck making a middling wage while their loan interest builds up to absurd levels.

a student loan is unsecured credit
given to someone with (virtually) no relevant credit history
and no relevant earnings history to speak of vis a vis the ability to repay down the line

the idea that a young, eager and enthusiastic someone in that position can reasonably promise, or let alone accurately and fairly predict their future ability to pay back is, well…

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:39:36am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:39:49am

Six months on from Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, and things are pretty bleak for Ukraine - continually suffering from Russian aggression despite the heavy toll they’ve inflicted on the genocidal invaders.

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William Lewis  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:40:02am

re: #199 Dopamine Fish

“Swatted again?” Lady, excuse me, but what the fuck? I had one bad experience with the cops and spent hundreds to set myself up so that I could record them from my front porch if I needed to. What’s your excuse?

No video, no swat, just another MTG lie.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:40:17am

re: #201 Eclectic Cyborg

Dang, he actually looks more normal as a bald guy.

Like your Drunk Uncle

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:40:19am

re: #185 Dopamine Fish

I’m not 100% convinced that this was done by one of her opponents, assuming it’s even real. I hate to be so cynical, but these people have proven that they are despicable liars all the way to the bottom.

See the top of the comments.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:40:57am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:41:03am

re: #207 lawhawk

They need air supremacy.

It’d be over in a matter of weeks.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:41:22am

re: #186 Dr Lizardo

Trump usually melts down like that when he’s received some particularly bad news.

The judge is ruling on the release of the affidavit today. The morning hacks were stating if anything gets released, it will be boilerplate, the laws he potentially violated, and some details about exactly what he was hoarding.

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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:41:31am

re: #147 Dr. Matt

I have substantial student loan debt that I have been paying on for almost a decade and will continue to pay back for another decade. Although I don’t qualify for the Biden plan, I am happy so many people will benefit. Honestly, you would have to be a selfish and self-absorbed fuckwad to be “outraged” that someone other than you is getting a small break.

one of the major planks of the republican platform in one sentence

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:42:10am

re: #212 Dr Lizardo

By “they”, I meant Ukraine.

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:42:32am

re: #200 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

calling out a SWAT team when it is not needed is a dick move, regardless of who did it

I think that’s obvious. The point is that it does not discredit the left when yet another right-wing asshole sends SWAT to someone’s house.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:42:35am

re: #205 Dangerman

a student loan is unsecured credit
given to someone with (virtually) no relevant credit history
and no relevant earnings history to speak of vis a vis the ability to repay down the line

That is why they call it STUDENT loans.

But again, the cost of higher education has more than tripled over the same time period it too the cost of of living to only double

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:44:40am

First Date From Hell

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:45:36am

re: #218 The Pie Overlord!

This is why I’d be so leery of using a dating app if I ever became single again.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:46:03am

LOL.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:46:26am

re: #219 Eclectic Cyborg

This is why I’d be so leery of using a dating app if I ever became single again.

seems like one would meet in a neutral public place during the day…

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:46:46am

re: #207 lawhawk

Six months on from Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, and things are pretty bleak for Ukraine - continually suffering from Russian aggression despite the heavy toll they’ve inflicted on the genocidal invaders.

It sucks, but at least they’re being trained properly.

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:47:11am

re: #211 Patricia Kayden

It’s not going to happen. Gaetz is from a real shithole district that chose a child sex trafficker in the Republican primary.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:47:47am

re: #210 Belafon

See the top of the comments.

I see. I’ll concede the points. That’s what I miss when I’m busy playing games and sleeping.

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:48:09am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:48:15am

re: #212 Dr Lizardo

They need air supremacy.

It’d be over in a matter of weeks.

Here’s hoping that comes to pass and Russia is defeated and implodes EXCEPT they are home to thousands of nuclear weapons — the fear of what can happen if a fatally wounded bear lashes out to bring the rest of the world down or if other malevolent actors take advantage of the situation to acquire their own weapons. We are at the brink of worldwide havoc.

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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:48:37am

re: #153 danarchy

Clearly an unpopular opinion here, but I do not like the debt forgiveness plan. I have no problem with debt forgiveness in general, I just don’t like the way it is being done. One man should not have the authority to spend 400 billion dollars unilaterally. I get that congress is hopeless right now, but I still don’t think that means we should lean in to authoritarian solutions. People from Nancy Pelosi to the actual education secretary as recently as last year were saying the president didn’t have the authority to do this. I don’t know if he is threading the needle legally, but even if he is, I don’t think he should be.

fwiw

Here’s the Legal Justification Cited by Biden Administration Attorneys for Student Loan Debt Forgiveness Plan (lawandcrime.com)

and

How is Biden able to forgive student loans?

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Jay C  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:49:59am

re: #220 Dr. Matt

LOL.

One thing I’ve noticed about on almost all of the “Loan Amount/Loan Forgiven” forms from wingers that I’ve seen posted online, the sole entry for “where money will go” is under “Payroll”. Is that just a bureaucratic euphemism for “in my pocket”?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:50:25am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

welp

If she really was she’d be filming it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:50:47am

re: #228 Jay C

One thing I’ve noticed about on almost all of the “Loan Amount/Loan Forgiven” forms from wingers that I’ve seen posted online, the sole entry for “where money will go” is under “Payroll”. Is that just a bureaucratic euphemism for “in my pocket”?

jerb cree-aters

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:51:22am

re: #229 GlutenFreeJesus

If she really was she’d be filming it.

With running commentary.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:52:20am

re: #122 Dangerman

Putting the lie aside

How much worse would it have been without the release?
They never address that kind of thing

And domestic strategic reserve releases affect gas prices not global oil prices so much

But, the right-whingers tell me we sent all that oil to Chyna.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 25, 2022 • 7:58:09am
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Belafon  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:00:08am

Dear Marjorie,

If you are being swatted, I hope they arrest and convict whoever did it, even if that person was Meryl Streep (random name picked, but the person I consider to be the greatest living actor).

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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:00:14am

re: #159 Dopamine Fish

Also, I had a thought re: the abortion debate. The problem is, the religious nutjobs aren’t going to go for the “woman’s body, woman’s choice” argument, because of their die-on-this-hill belief that life begins at the instant of fertilization. Yes, we all know they’re wrong on this, but there is no convincing them of that, and I don’t think we should try. Rather, this is my thought:

Why does it matter?

Yes, yes, I know, the argument goes, “Abortion is murder because life begins at fertilization, and you’re killing a soul who is defenseless.” But that’s literally beside the point. As Christians, we are not supposed to be in the business of legislating morality; Paul emphasizes heavily that we are supposed to submit to our governing authorities, and that while we can - and sometimes should - engage in civil disobedience, it should only be to oppose laws that force us to act against the tenets of Christianity. It is God’s place to judge, not ours, and it isn’t right for us to impose human consequences for moral failings. Should we not forgive, as others have forgiven us? Therefore, we should not be forcibly banning abortion; we can advocate against the practice as a moral failure, if that’s what you believe, but banning it outright should only be done if the state has a vested interest in doing it. (Of course, the economics work out heavily in favor of permitting abortion.)

But, I hear you ask: Don’t we already ban murder of living human beings? Isn’t that a Christian rule as well? Isn’t it even in the freaking Ten Commandments? Yes, it is - but the state has a vested interest in preventing the murder of living human beings. It should be for the state to decide when the life, health, and safety of living persons is a viable state interest, not our religion.

i would add two thoughts:
- abortion is a medical procedure. it can be used for ‘good’ - ie with a known certain non-viable fetus, ectopic pregnancies, etc, or abused for ‘evil’. just like so many other things in life can be used or abused, yet we dont outright ban them ‘just in case’.

- second and more important is that this entire debate is not an either/or - the unborn or the living mother.

if the ‘unborn’ have any ‘right’ at all it is a competing or conflicting right not an absolute one vis a vis the mother.

a woman does not lose her absolute rights simply because she becomes pregnant.

but that is what the anti-abort side is trying to do: to disallow due process and automatically subjugate the rights of the certainly alive to the questionably existing ‘rights’ of the potential-yet-not-certain-to-be-alive-ever.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:01:45am

re: #223 Crush White Nationalism

It’s not going to happen. Gaetz is from a real shithole district that chose a child sex trafficker in the Republican primary.

And is probably universally against vax. While Jones isn’t associated with vaccinations, she can be linked by her attacks on DeSantis in the (small) minds of republicans.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:02:43am

re: #202 lawhawk

Stopped clock metaphor is how I am reading this one.

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danarchy  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:04:02am

re: #227 Dangerman

fwiw

Here’s the Legal Justification Cited by Biden Administration Attorneys for Student Loan Debt Forgiveness Plan (lawandcrime.com)

and

How is Biden able to forgive student loans?

I know what the justification is, I just think he is stretching that law to the breaking point. And even if what he is doing is allowed by the letter of the law I don’t think the executive should be unilaterally allowed to spend almost 400 billion dollars.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:06:16am
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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:07:44am

re: #165 danarchy

IMO opinion either you believe in democracy or you don’t and if you try to sidestep democratic institutions because they are not getting the results you want then what is the point. If you are saying our institutions are broken therefore authoritarian solutions are ok because this is important, well, there are lots of things the other side believe is important that I would rather not be done by executive fiat.

clear and convincing majorities have not existed for a while

to get things done, that has forced federal politicians to start mining the edges of what’s possible because ‘regular order’ doesnt seem to be available all that much.

-mcconnell certainly did it with scotus
-scotus is doing it all by itself, notwithstanding all the denying
-spy45 tried to do it in in-numerous ways, many not legal though also not enforced. one example was redirecting money for ‘the wall’, which failed.
- another example might be gwb and the Yoo ‘torture’ memo. that’s not law. just an ‘opinion’, that no one challenged.

the biden admin has some reasoning and they’ve explained it.

ianal, but i’d say they are coloring well further inside the lines of ‘justifiable’ than some of those above

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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:09:16am

re: #174 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

executive fiat is a government institution, not a preferable choice but nonetheless an option when it is the only way to get things done.

took me way longer to say what you said in one

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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:10:10am

re: #177 Hecuba’s daughter

He got them the presidency; he allowed them to get their tax cuts; he gave them free rein in legislation; he got them 3 judges on SCOTUS; he supported their anti-immigrant agenda. They were quite happy with him. The only action of his that displeased them was his behavior during the Georgia runoff elections which gave us the barest of Senate majorities and saved Biden’s presidency. Of course, some really did object to the January 6 insurrection but a strong majority of House Republicans supported it.

he’s gonna (hopefully) lose them the senate again

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gocart mozart  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:10:56am
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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:11:08am

re: #237 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Stopped clock metaphor is how I am reading this one.

She’s pissed she lost the primary and now thinks that there’s some huge conspiracy against her. Fuck it. Let them fight.

GOP in disarray.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:12:03am

re: #238 danarchy

I know what the justification is, I just think he is stretching that law to the breaking point. And even if what he is doing is allowed by the letter of the law I don’t think the executive should be unilaterally allowed to spend almost 400 billion dollars.

I saw an estimate that said it would cost $500B over ten years.

Biden has been pretty careful about staying within legal parameters, even if he’s pushed at the edges pretty hard in this case. That’s why this one doesn’t just wipe out everyone’s debt. I’m not sure how much this will help my kids as far as the debt forgiveness occurred, since they also had to take out some private loans.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:13:30am

re: #244 lawhawk

She’s pissed she lost the primary and now thinks that there’s some huge conspiracy against her. Fuck it. Let them fight.

GOP in disarray.

Totally — I approve of rethuglican infighting.

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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:13:39am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

welp

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she means mosquitoes, right?

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:14:35am

re: #223 Crush White Nationalism

It’s not going to happen. Gaetz is from a real shithole district that chose a child sex trafficker in the Republican primary.

Let’s see what Dobbs does to the Gaetz district. Of course, who knows what will be the hot button issue when voting happens. Dobbs may still be dominant, especially if even more dire stories are released about doomed pregnancies and those forced to carry them. Or if proof is released that Trump actually sold documents to Russia or MBS. (Of course, the latter won’t affect the diehard base)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:17:40am

re: #233 The Pie Overlord!

Abortion’s allowed in the Old Testament, which is Jewish, so there!

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:17:48am

re: #242 Dangerman

he’s gonna (hopefully) lose them the senate again

Probably Dobbs rather than Trump (who personally doesn’t care about the issue and is perceptive enough to realize that it could cost the GOP mucho votes)

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:20:37am
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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:20:46am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is why they call it STUDENT loans.

But again, the cost of higher education has more than tripled over the same time period it too the cost of of living to only double

oh i understand but they’re comparing them to things like mortgages and truck loans etc.
where there you need to actually prove income/the ability to repay and the loan is secured by the asset

where does this expectation that students have to have been been prescient about their futures come from?

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:22:01am
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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:25:50am

re: #232 Colère Tueur de Lapin

But, the right-whingers tell me we sent all that oil to Chyna.

they’re just not very bright guys
and that’s not at all what’s going on

the Department of Energy is in the process of releasing 180 million barrels from the SPR over six months while International Energy Administration (IEA) partners are releasing an additional 60 million barrels. This blog presents analysis estimating the impact of this release on the price of retail gas in the United States.

treasury

and

Treasury Department Estimates that Strategic Petroleum Reserve Releases by President Biden and International Partners Reduced the Price of Gasoline by up to 40 Cents Per Gallon

whitehouse

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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:27:02am

re: #238 danarchy

I know what the justification is, I just think he is stretching that law to the breaking point. And even if what he is doing is allowed by the letter of the law I don’t think the executive should be unilaterally allowed to spend almost 400 billion dollars.

fair enough

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rhuarc  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:27:38am

Does anybody have any handy articles or explainers on the current predatory lending practices students face when taking out loans for college? I see quite a few anecdotal takes about “I took out $X and I’ve been paying for years and now I owe double what the original amount was” and I want to understand if that is a common problem or just purely anecdotal.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:27:48am

re: #249 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Abortion’s allowed in the Old Testament, which is Jewish, so there!

If someone causes a pregnant woman to miscarry, it’s a misdemeanor & the miscarriage-causer pays a fine.

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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:28:45am

re: #243 gocart mozart

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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:31:38am

re: #250 Hecuba’s daughter

Probably Dobbs rather than Trump (who personally doesn’t care about the issue and is perceptive enough to realize that it could cost the GOP mucho votes)

he really pushed for Walker, and Oz (who seems to have disowned spy45)
and maybe one or two others i cant think of at the moment

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:31:44am

re: #258 Dangerman

i just experienced how the phrase “LOL” must have spontaneously originated

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:34:50am

re: #259 Dangerman

he really pushed for Walker, and Oz (who seems to have disowned spy45)
and maybe one or two others i cant think of at the moment

Good points!

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:36:19am
World leaders have called for the Zaporizhzhia site to be demilitarised after footage emerged of Russian army vehicles inside the plant, and have previously warned Russia against cutting it off from the Ukrainian grid and connecting it up to the Russian power network.

But Petro Kotin, the head of Ukraine’s atomic energy company, told the Guardian in an interview that Russian engineers had already drawn up a blueprint for a switch on the grounds of emergency planning should fighting sever remaining power connections.

“They presented [the plan] to [workers at] the plant, and the plant [workers] presented it to us. The precondition for this plan was heavy damage of all lines which connect Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant to the Ukrainian system,” Kotin said in an interview on Ukraine’s independence day on Wednesday, with the country mostly locked down because of the threat of Russian attacks.

He fears that Russia’s military is now targeting those connections to make the emergency scenario a reality. Both Ukraine and Russia have accused each other of shelling the site.

theguardian.com

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gocart mozart  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:46:44am
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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:47:26am

I can watch this all day:

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:48:44am
Erndt’s memorial service was held on Aug. 9, 2002, at Prince of Peace Catholic Church. Erndt “jumped from a boat on Aug. 2, is missing and presumed drowned,” according to a death announcement published in the Review-Journal on Aug. 8, 2002.

Remains of body found at Lake Mead in May identified (Las Vegas Review Journal)

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:48:59am

re: #127 jeffreyw

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Western good morning!

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:51:22am

Awesome thread: #LockHimUp

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:53:25am

re: #267 Dr. Matt

There’s always a tweet for that… /

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gocart mozart  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:54:29am
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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:55:33am

re: #267 Dr. Matt

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:55:44am

So, about 2/3 of the US is experiencing drought conditions. Around the world, there’s significant droughts and rivers from China to Europe to the US are drying up or are at multiyear low flows.

This is bad news for anyone who lives, because rivers are lifeblood for commerce, and potable water.

But yeah, let’s be like the GOP and ignore the issue entirely and blame Biden for advancing the green new deal that seeks out alternative energy sources, tries to address climate change, and all the consequences from that.

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Jay C  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:56:51am

re: #238 danarchy

I know what the justification is, I just think he is stretching that law to the breaking point. And even if what he is doing is allowed by the letter of the law I don’t think the executive should be unilaterally allowed to spend almost 400 billion dollars.

Yeah: fair point, though as others have pointed out, unlike the last Administration, Joe has probably carefully crafted this executive action to at least try to meet - and not exceed - the parameters of legal authority. And as with almost everyfuckingthing else in DC, some sort of suit challenging this program is likely to be filed (if one hasn’t been, already), I’m assuming Biden’s people have got a viable, credible defense already in the can.
And also: Is the loan-forgiveness program going to be implemented Immediately (or, in political terms, just in time for the midterms)?

And also: assuming that Biden has a “friendly” Congress next session, can this program be “confirmed” by legislation (vs. just being an executive decision)??

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2022 • 8:56:54am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:00:07am

re: #267 Dr. Matt

Biden claims had no advance knowledge of Trump raid, Republicans argue either DOJ went rogue or Biden knew about its actions

Ever heard of operational security, you dumb fucks?

I’m sure Biden was aware DOJ was zeroing in on Trump but he was probably NOT told the details of the raid until AFTER the fact.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:04:02am

re: #274 Eclectic Cyborg

Biden claims had no advance knowledge of Trump raid, Republicans argue either DOJ went rogue or Biden knew about its actions

Ever heard of operational security, you dumb fucks?

I’m sure Biden was aware DOJ was zeroing in on Trump but he was probably NOT told the details of the raid until AFTER the fact.

Irrelevant, the key narrative theme here is WITCH HUNT.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:05:13am

re: #274 Eclectic Cyborg

Biden claims had no advance knowledge of Trump raid, Republicans argue either DOJ went rogue or Biden knew about its actions

Ever heard of operational security, you dumb fucks?

I’m sure Biden was aware DOJ was zeroing in on Trump but he was probably NOT told the details of the raid until AFTER the fact.

Everything is a conspiracy to these morons. They operate under the assumption that everyday life itself is a conspiracy directed against them. Political paranoia taken to its (not so) logical extreme.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:07:27am

re: #276 Dr Lizardo

Everything is a conspiracy to these morons. They operate under the assumption that everyday life itself is a conspiracy directed against them. Political paranoia taken to its (not so) logical extreme.

It’s also important to note that this attitude stems from how they themselves would run the DOJ, or how Trump did run the DOJ. They can’t conceive of a world in which the President didn’t know about a search warrant being executed on his former rival, because that’s what they would do if they were President.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:09:37am

Welp, looks like the IRS has finally started hiring those *checks notes* call center operators the right-wingers have been frothing at the mouth about:

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:12:04am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:15:14am

re: #278 Dopamine Fish

I hope they pay those folks well, some of those callers are going to be a handful.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:25:28am
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dat_said  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:27:25am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:27:39am

re: #280 Eclectic Cyborg

I hope they pay those folks well, some of those callers are going to be a handful.

The job is to keep the callers online so the armed IRS agents can kick in the doors and raid the place…

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William Lewis  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:27:43am

re: #281 Dave In Austin

Face…..

OK, I really don’t like baseball but that was damn cool. Thank you for posting that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:29:32am

re: #284 William Lewis

OK, I really don’t like baseball but that was damn cool. Thank you for posting that.

When I was young, my brother took me to a Cubs game at Wrigley Field. He caught a fly ball in the stands and gave it to me. I went and got it signed by Ferguson Jenkins.

Then I took it home and showed it off to all the kids in the neighborhood. Bad move. It was stolen within three days.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:30:30am

re: #281 Dave In Austin

Face…..

Fantastic. That kid will be telling his grandchildren that story someday.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:31:08am

re: #191 William Lewis

IF it happened. There’d be video from her, taken by the cops if nothing else.

This is just another MTG lie.

We need something from the yokel police, press release, video, copy of report. Otherwise it didn’t happen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:34:46am

re: #282 dat_said

IRS to refund a ‘very welcome’ $1.2 billion in late-filing fees for nearly 1.6 million taxpayers

This is an affront to all those who filed on time!!!

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Teukka  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:45:52am

Meanwhile, in Sweden:

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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:51:04am

re: #276 Dr Lizardo

Everything is a conspiracy to these morons. They operate under the assumption that everyday life itself is a conspiracy directed against them. Political paranoia taken to its (not so) logical extreme.

i still wonder how much of this nonsense they believe
vs
they just spout whatever insanity they think will hurt biden/the dems the most

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:52:14am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:52:15am

MTG may be expecting a real raid from the FBI, and the claims of Swatting are part of some convoluted, pre-emptive smokescreen.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:54:38am

Was MTG swatted or did the police respond to a 911 call for a domestic dispute?

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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:56:51am

re: #288 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is an affront to all those who filed on time!!!

and to anyone who paid penalties for late filing before the pandemic

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:57:22am
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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:57:43am

re: #78 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My wife just completed our reservation to stay at a hotel and brewery in Dildo, Newfoundland. I fully intend to send a crapload of postcards from Dildo.

The Bob And Tom Radio Show dedicated a show re the Dildo Newfoundland festival & dildos complete with interviews with Captain Dildo & others (late 1990s?).

One of their better shows.

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 25, 2022 • 9:59:09am

This is a very polite way of saying that someone is too nuts to be part of a project.

“I say this as someone who is such an admirer of his work. His process was not conducive to the ethos that I demand in my productions. He has a process that, in some ways, seems to require a combative energy, and I don’t personally believe that is conducive to the best performances. I believe that creating a safe, trusting environment is the best way to get people to do their best work. Ultimately, my responsibility is to the production and to the cast to protect them. That was my job.”

“A lot came to light after this happened that really troubled me, in terms of his behavior. I find myself just really wishing him health and evolution because I believe in restorative justice. But for our film, what we really needed was an energy that was incredibly supportive. Particularly with a movie like this, I knew that I was going to be asking Florence to be in very vulnerable situations, and my priority was making her feel safe and making her feel supported.”

Olivia Wilde Breaks Silence About Firing Shia LaBeouf From New Movie (Screenrant via MSN)

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:01:58am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:03:28am

re: #297 Crush White Nationalism

This is a very polite way of saying that someone is too nuts to be part of a project.

Olivia Wilde Breaks Silence About Firing Shia LaBeouf From New Movie (Screenrant via MSN)

I recall him being set up to follow in his father’s footsteps as the next Indiana Jones at the end of IJ and the Crystal Skull but I see that they did not follow through on that…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:06:03am
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:06:37am

re: #289 Teukka

Do the police know the motivation for this murder?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:07:23am

re: #298 lawhawk

How about this motif?

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:09:12am

re: #302 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They drowned because unlike Noah and his family, they did not trust God. /s

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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:10:00am

re: #300 Backwoods_Sleuth

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they really need to stop this nonsense

microeconomically, no one is “paying” for anything for anyone else

your daughter’s (or your) income will not be reduced, nor her income tax change by one penny because of this.

yes, the macro impact is a different thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:10:03am
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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:13:40am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:14:29am
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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:15:17am

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

Don’t you think he looks tired.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:15:30am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why is she wearing a mask? //

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:17:20am

It’s entirely suitable in this case. JFC!

Alabama Pastor Michael Jennings of Vision of Abundant Life Ministries, returned home from service one Sunday in May and went to water his neighbor’s plants. That’s when someone called the police on him, claiming an unfamiliar SUV was parked outside the neighbor’s house and that an unknown man was lurking on the property. Per the body camera footage, the officers approached Jennings asking him what he was doing at the house.

“Watering flowers,” Jennings responded. “I’m supposed to be here. I’m Pastor Jennings. I live across the street. I’m looking out for their house while they’re gone.”

The police officer asks Mr Jennings to present identification, which Mr Jennings declined to do - telling the officer that he “did nothing wrong.”

After less than two minutes of the recorded interaction, police officers took Mr Jennings’ phone and handcuffed him. Shortly thereafter, police officers began screaming at Mr Jennings that he must identify himself to them while Mr Jennings accused the officers of improper conduct.

At that point, a white woman approached the scene to vouch for Mr Jennings, telling the officers that he lived nearby and that he may well have had permission to be watering the flowers.

But even after the neighbor’s intervention, police continued to tell Mr Jennings that he was a suspicious person and that he should have presented his identification when asked - even though he was not committing a crime.

According to the report, Jennings’ family also arrived to confirm his identity but the officers took him to jail and charged him with obstruction of government operation, which was dropped a month later. Now, the pastor is preparing a discrimination lawsuit against the police department.

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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:17:53am

plus

“Senate Minority leader Mitch McConnell called Biden’s loan forgiveness plan ‘student loan socialism’ and said it was a ‘slap in the face to every family who sacrificed to save for college.’ But when McConnell graduated from the University of Louisville in 1964, annual tuition cost $330 (or roughly $2,500 when adjusted for inflation); today, it costs more than $12,000, a 380% increase.

“When House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, who called the policy a ‘debt transfer scam,’ graduated from California State University, Bakersfield in 1989, tuition was less than $800; today, it’s more than $7,500, a 400% increase when adjusted for inflation.”

(time)

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:19:51am

re: #98 wrenchwench

My 222nd game. The streak is 12. The puzzle is a 5.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:21:11am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:21:26am

Saved it in the end.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:22:34am
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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:24:12am

re: #310 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s entirely suitable in this case. JFC!

. That’s when someone called the police on him, claiming an unfamiliar SUV was parked outside the neighbor’s house and that an unknown man was lurking on the property.

So who called?

The pastor said he lives across the street

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:27:46am

re: #310 Eclectic Cyborg

The problem is that it is tax payer dollars which cover discrimination lawsuits. The money should come out of the police union funds or their retirement funds. This is ridiculous.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:27:52am

re: #316 Dangerman

So who called?

Some racist asshole in the area, I assume.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:29:17am

re: #318 Eclectic Cyborg

Some racist asshole in the area, I assume.

and a liar…unfamiliar SUV, my aunt fanny

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:35:09am
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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:36:56am

re: #317 Patricia Kayden

The problem is that it is tax payer dollars which cover discrimination lawsuits. The money should come out of the police union funds or their retirement funds. This is ridiculous.

They are working as representatives of their employer.
So i’d settle for half personal responsibility.
Not the union.
Them.
Personally
A trained professional who can cause damages to someone else should have skin in the game if they don’t pay indemnity/malpractice insurance themselves

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:37:37am
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Florida Panhandler  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:38:15am

My DeSantis Watch continues.

Just today DeSantis followed up his recent pivots towards populist causes to pad his resume for a Presidential run. Today’s announcement concerning a new Toll Road relief program (up to 25% credit for heavy highway users over the next 6 months) enable him to claim he “looks out for the little guy”…

… if in reality that “little guy” is a 50 years old White Christian male who hates everyone not exactly like him. The entire country better get used to these flimflam populist shoutouts by DeSantis, because he is definitely running and likely to be the GOP winner.

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dat_said  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:38:18am

Minor technical difficulties at my house.

Had a neighborhood power outage late last night for about 1/2 hr. No internet when I got up this morning so I went to the basement and powered down/powered up things and unplugged and plugged cables and reset and the basic I’m-not-sure-what-I’m-doing-but-I’m-doing-something-stuff and made some progress - some lights working but still no internet.

Wife joins me and asks about my progress and I say something like I think the box got fried. She says something like “did you try this?” and reaches for a cable. I say “of course I…” *click* “… well, sugar”.

We now have internet working again.

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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:39:24am

re: #319 Backwoods_Sleuth

and a liar…unfamiliar SUV, my aunt fanny

The core problem is how the police system almost automatically legitimizes the incoming phone call without any vetting.

That feeds the mindset of the responders going in.

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:40:40am

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

Priorities - and also the fact that Bannon’s case is more winnable? /

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:41:30am
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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:42:12am

re: #323 Florida Panhandler

My DeSantis Watch continues.

Just today DeSantis followed up his recent pivots towards populist causes to pad his resume for a Presidential run. Today’s announcement concerning a new Toll Road relief program (up to 25% credit for heavy highway users over the next 6 months) enable him to claim he “looks out for the little guy”…

… if in reality that “little guy” is a 50 years old White Christian male who hates everyone not exactly like him. The entire country better get used to these flimflam populist shoutouts by DeSantis, because he is definitely running and likely to be the GOP winner.

Wait.
only the heavy highway users?
Why should the rest of us have to keep paying tolls….

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Dangerman  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:45:43am

re: #327 jaunte

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Apparently betsy devos had the authority. She was court ordered to cancel $150mil.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:51:28am

“Luke Brown is facing some serious jail time and just offered us a new perspective on why the far right wants to force women to have children they don’t want or can’t afford.”

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Mike Lamb  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:55:51am

Another question: assuming that the $300B is a real number and that the debt is truly being forgiven, doesn’t that mean no one is paying for it? You forgive/cancel a debt, it comes off the books entirely, no? It is no longer an outstanding receivable.

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:57:28am

re: #330 jaunte

Unfu… nope. Totally fucking believable.

These are the fuckers who’d rape children and force them to carry to term.

They see women and girls as vessels for carrying their kids, with zero agency or control over their bodies, and no ability to make decisions that affect their lives.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2022 • 10:59:16am

re: #327 jaunte

Because ol’ Ronny would NEVER abuse his power.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2022 • 11:00:00am
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Thanos  Aug 25, 2022 • 11:01:37am

re: #331 Mike Lamb

Another question: assuming that the $300B is a real number and that the debt is truly being forgiven, doesn’t that mean no one is paying for it? You forgive/cancel a debt, it comes off the books entirely, no? It is no longer an outstanding receivable.

Its money servicers won’t collect for the government, I imagine that directions have gone out to the private servicing companies to reduce the principles of the loans by x amount, and perhaps they will show those amounts also as actual payments, I’m betting we will see some articles on it soon.

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Thanos  Aug 25, 2022 • 11:05:49am

re: #335 Thanos

Its money servicers won’t collect for the government, I imagine that directions have gone out to the private servicing companies to reduce the principles of the loans by x amount, and perhaps they will show those amounts also as actual payments, I’m betting we will see some articles on it soon.

Now that I think about it, those servicers are all going to have to recalc the amount owed, interest, and payment due & schedules. Expect to hear some whining from them because their nut on each loan is going to be reduced by at least the amount of labor they spend re calcing.
*please note I’m no expert & I’m just making guesses.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2022 • 11:06:05am
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Thanos  Aug 25, 2022 • 11:11:35am

I managed to get in two hours of yard work today with the oxygen backpack cranked to 4, it felt good to be able to catch up some of the way overdue shit.

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Mike Lamb  Aug 25, 2022 • 11:12:30am

re: #335 Thanos

Its money servicers won’t collect for the government, I imagine that directions have gone out to the private servicing companies to reduce the principles of the loans by x amount, and perhaps they will show those amounts also as actual payments, I’m betting we will see some articles on it soon.

Ok. But if it is still coming totally off the books, then how is the proverbial machinist paying for it (particularly if there is no increase in taxes)?

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Thanos  Aug 25, 2022 • 11:21:13am

re: #339 Mike Lamb

Ok. But if it is still coming totally off the books, then how is the proverbial machinist paying for it (particularly if there is no increase in taxes)?

In reality they probably are not, but they will argue that the proceeds from the loan collections would be utilized somewhere by government, and taxes will have to make up for that shortfall. Joe’s peeps are smart however, so they are probably rejiggering the books to cover this some way already.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2022 • 12:10:32pm

re: #334 jaunte

like this guy:

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Thanos  Aug 25, 2022 • 12:28:57pm

Oh, and Bettencourt … dude has serious chops.


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