Tiny Desk’s 1000th Concert: The Great Angélique Kidjo

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Bob Boilen | September 12, 2022

Today we celebrate the 1,000th concert the Tiny Desk team has captured and published, and I can’t imagine a more inspiring spirit to help us celebrate than Angélique Kidjo. Originally from the West African country of Benin, the singer and activist plays a crucial role in spreading the music of Africa and the spirit of love in all that she does.

When I started the Tiny Desk series in April 2008, I never imagined its impact. So many artists’ voices have been raised and shared with music fans worldwide through these performances. When Angélique was preparing for her Tiny Desk concert, she thought it would be a good idea to watch some past concerts for inspiration. It’s then she saw Sampa The Great’s home concert from Zambia and immediately reached out in hopes of collaborating. Now here they are, at NPR, brought together by a series that has been blessed with so much talent and a global audience with big ears and open arms.

Angélique Kidjo’s band drives the energy and melody as they perform songs from her 2021 album Mother Nature and then dig back a decade to perform the song “Afirika,” encouraging strength for the African people. The celebration concludes as Angélique Kidjo pays tribute to her friend and mentor Miriam Makeba by performing her 1967 global hit, “Pata Pata.” It was a lovely way to shine a light on how we can impact each other’s lives through music.

SET LIST
“Mother Nature”
“Free & Equal” (feat. Sampa The Great)
“Afirika”
“Pata Pata”

MUSICIANS
Angélique Kidjo: vocals
Sampa The Great: vocals
Cassondra James Kellam: vocals
Stephanie Fisher Alvarenga: vocals
Dominic James: guitar, vocals
Michael Olatuja: bass, vocals
Etienne Stadwijk: keyboard
Edgardo “Yayo” Serka: drums
Magatte Sow: percussion

TINY DESK TEAM
Producer/Series Creator: Bob Boilen
Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin
Director/Editor: Kara Frame
Series Producer: Bobby Carter
Videographers: Kara Frame, Michael Zamora, Pierre Kattar, Alanté Serene
Audio Assistant: Natasha Branch
Production Assistants: Jill Britton, Joby Tanseco
Tiny Desk Team: Suraya Mohamed, Marissa Lorusso, Hazel Cills, Ashley Pointer, Maia Stern
VP, Visuals and Music: Keith Jenkins
Senior VP, Programming: Anya Grundmann

#tinydesk #nprmusic #angeliquekidjo

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305 comments
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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2022 • 5:47:58pm

Oh ma gerd that groove is so deep. This is the real shit.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 12, 2022 • 5:50:40pm

fuck the new york times

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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2022 • 5:51:36pm

re: #2 The Pie Overlord!

fuck the new york times

i heard that

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Belafon  Sep 12, 2022 • 5:53:33pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 12, 2022 • 6:00:30pm

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Belafon  Sep 12, 2022 • 6:00:31pm
The effort to reduce mass shootings got a win over the weekend, as American Express, Mastercard, and Visa all said they would adopt a new code to categorize sales at gun shops. That in turn could help flag suspicious purchases that could be the prelude to a mass shooting—for instance, the shooter responsible for the Pulse Nightclub massacre in 2016 spent $26,000 on guns and ammunition just a week earlier.

The move by the credit card processing companies followed the announcement of the new code by the International Organization for Standardization (ISO), which Sen. Elizabeth Warren called “an important step towards improving coordination with law enforcement and preventing gun violence.”

Such codes are used to break out purchases at many types of business, including coffee shops, movie theaters, and salons. Gun lobbyists think it’s unfairly targeting guns to apply the same type of code to gun stores, but, as New York City Mayor Eric Adams has said, “When you buy an airline ticket or pay for your groceries, your credit card company has a special code for those retailers. It’s just common sense that we have the same policies in place for gun and ammunition stores.”

m.dailykos.com

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mmmirele  Sep 12, 2022 • 6:17:28pm

re: #6 Belafon

It’s only going to work if the credit card processors and/or the issuing banks then build some algorithms to flag suspicious transactions. Otherwise, it’s just spitting in the wind.

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wrenchwench  Sep 12, 2022 • 6:21:40pm

Tiny Desk is so Big.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 12, 2022 • 6:24:19pm

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EstebanTornado1963  Sep 12, 2022 • 6:34:52pm
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jaunte  Sep 12, 2022 • 6:40:00pm

Jeffrey Clark inventing new words, encouraging randos to harass the FBI.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 12, 2022 • 6:42:05pm
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jaunte  Sep 12, 2022 • 6:46:23pm
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sizzzzlerz  Sep 12, 2022 • 6:58:23pm

Daily KOS is reporting a QAnon tragedy out of Michigan where a 53-year old man shot and killed his wife and dog as well as shot one of his daughters, who survived to call the police. A second daughter was staying with friends and is unharmed. Apparently, the man was deep down the QAnon rabbit hole and when his family declined to follow, he decided they had to die, so he shot them. When the police arrived, he met them outside with gunfire, whereupon he was killed.

Two more bodies attributable to TFFG.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 12, 2022 • 7:01:59pm

re: #14 sizzzzlerz

One less red hat to breathe my air.

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Captain Ron  Sep 12, 2022 • 7:02:27pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 12, 2022 • 7:06:53pm

re: #15 Ace Rothstein

One less red hat to breathe my air.

I feel sorry for his family and especially the dog. Shows how dangerous MAGA is — including to MAGAts. It really is a cult.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 12, 2022 • 7:12:20pm
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BigPapa  Sep 12, 2022 • 7:15:52pm

‘unborn children’ is such a warped turn of words

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jaunte  Sep 12, 2022 • 7:26:49pm
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Dangerman  Sep 12, 2022 • 7:28:21pm

re: #19 BigPapa

‘unborn children’ is such a warped turn of words

I’ve said it before that they may be making a mistake calling them children.

If they have any recognized rights, like the right to life, well so does the mother.

There’s a system for dealing with conflicting and competing rights.

No one has automatic, unquestioned, unchallengeable and superior rights to another.

At the moment they’re working by totally banning a medical procedure. A stupid approach that doesn’t account for certain correct and obvious uses of it. Just like they’re trying to do with the plan b drugs.

If they morph it into a rights issue I think they open up a can of worms they’ll wish they hadnt

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Dangerman  Sep 12, 2022 • 7:32:26pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 12, 2022 • 7:36:01pm

re: #21 Dangerman

I’ve said it before that they may be making a mistake calling them children.

If they have any recognized rights, like the right to life, well so does the mother.

There’s a system for dealing with conflicting and competing rights.

No one has automatic, unquestioned, unchallengeable and superior rights to another.

At the moment they’re working by totally banning a medical procedure. A stupid approach that doesn’t account for certain correct and obvious uses of it. Just like they’re trying to do with the plan b drugs.

If they morph it into a rights issue I think they open up a can of worms they’ll wish they hadnt

Looks like they are trying to make the original Dobbs case nationwide — by implementing the Roberts approach and banning abortions after 15 weeks, which affects only those states that still offer legalized abortion. Obviously this bill will not pass the Senate as long as the Democrats are in control, but after November if there is a change in control of both Houses, Biden will veto the bill. However, when the GOP next has the trifecta, it won’t be a 15 week limit, it will be a nationwide total ban.

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Dangerman  Sep 12, 2022 • 7:38:40pm
The Senate Judiciary Committee will investigate allegations that the Justice Department under President Donald Trump sought to use the U.S. attorney’s office in Manhattan to support Mr. Trump politically and pursue his critics, the committee’s chairman said on Monday,” the New York Times reports

“This is sheer harassment”
Sir Robert Highsmith, QB VII

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SerialUpDinger  Sep 12, 2022 • 7:52:14pm

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Power and the Passion - Midnight Oil. This version from 2018 is a tour-de-force. Some 35 years after its release it still rings true.

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Dangerman  Sep 12, 2022 • 7:56:04pm
Members of the House Select Committee investigating the January 6 Capitol riot believe former Secret Service agent Tony Ornato was personally involved in efforts to discredit former Trump White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony,” Insider reports.

Not one of them isn’t dirty

From a rando:

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this out.

-She testifies
-A secret service source leaks to the press contradicting her testimony
-Press goes into full “gotcha” mode trying to turn it into anonymous source said-she said
-Then slowly the initial reporting unravels when evidence (and the deletion thereof) as well as others confirm her testimony
-This dude goes to ground and hastily plans an exit from the secret service shortly after

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retired cynic  Sep 12, 2022 • 7:58:07pm
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jaunte  Sep 12, 2022 • 8:05:20pm
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Belafon  Sep 12, 2022 • 8:06:19pm

re: #18 Patricia Kayden

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Talk about being unable to read national sentiment.

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William Lewis  Sep 12, 2022 • 8:11:03pm

re: #29 Belafon

Talk about being unable to read national sentiment.

The point is that they don’t care what people other than rich white “evangelical” men think because they think they will win the last meaningful election in in 2024.

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mmmirele  Sep 12, 2022 • 8:11:20pm

re: #10 EstebanTornado1963

Here’s a tweet from that thread. Note that some people are apparently getting crowdsourced information, which is Twitter NOT DOING ITS JOB.

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Belafon  Sep 12, 2022 • 8:18:25pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 12, 2022 • 8:22:10pm
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Belafon  Sep 12, 2022 • 8:34:53pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 12, 2022 • 8:39:16pm

To me the most likely theory is golf execs getting chewed out by Trump because it makes him feel better. But I like the title.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 12, 2022 • 8:45:37pm

And I’m sure this piece of equipment is now well on its way to Langley, VA:

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Jay C  Sep 12, 2022 • 8:50:55pm

re: #36 Dr Lizardo

So not only are the Russians supplying the Ukrainians with equipment, we get some toys to play with, too?

Thanks, Vlad….!

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wrenchwench  Sep 12, 2022 • 9:00:37pm

Today I went to the bank to get quarters to do laundry, and when I stuck my card in the reader, the teller said, ‘What’s that?’. It was a credit card that had just been replaced by a new one in the mail, at which point, I had taken my bank debit card out of my wallet and disposed of it. I figured out what had happened, and asked the teller to order me a new debit card.

I stopped by work to say I’d be taking the week off, and I got a hug and some free food. The hug was free too.

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Targetpractice  Sep 12, 2022 • 9:06:06pm

re: #36 Dr Lizardo

And I’m sure this piece of equipment is now well on its way to Langley, VA:

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It’s not that this war is an intel bonanza, that’s been true of past wars for centuries. No, what’s so hilarious is that the Russian conscripts are so desperate to GTFO that they’re running away without making even a token attempt to damage or destroy anything valuable. We’re finding totally intact vehicles whose only issue is either cheap Chinese tires or that they’ve run out of fuel. NATO analysts must be absolutely swamped with data from the last six months alone.

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JC1  Sep 12, 2022 • 9:16:24pm

5/6. I really think that I should have gotten it earlier.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 12, 2022 • 9:16:59pm

Proud of my four.

Night.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2022 • 9:25:50pm

re: #35 wrenchwench

They are planning the next cemetery.

Trump will bury each wife on a different golf course.

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wrenchwench  Sep 12, 2022 • 9:28:14pm
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 12, 2022 • 9:29:30pm

re: #37 Jay C

re: #39 Targetpractice

This war is like hitting the jackpot for Western intelligence agencies.

OK, off to work. Gotta pay them bills, after all. Be back later today.

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Belafon  Sep 12, 2022 • 9:31:22pm

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

This war is like hitting the jackpot for Western intelligence agencies.

OK, off to work. Gotta pay them bills, after all. Be back later today.

Payback for Trump.

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jaunte  Sep 12, 2022 • 9:44:04pm
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Belafon  Sep 12, 2022 • 9:48:00pm

But 9 year olds, who are too immature to have an abortion, are physically and mentally ready to give birth:

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wrenchwench  Sep 12, 2022 • 9:55:18pm

re: #47 Belafon

But 9 year olds, who are too immature to have an abortion, are physically and mentally ready to give birth:

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They should have the vote. No suffering without suffrage! No gestation without representation!

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Targetpractice  Sep 12, 2022 • 10:02:03pm

re: #28 jaunte

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It’s less than two months until the midterms.

Your party has already suffered two massive upsets since the Dobbs ruling dropped that were a total shock to pundits.

Polling and registration data alike shows that there has been a massive influx of women into the voter pool since said ruling.

And numerous candidates have had to wipe entire sections of their campaign websites of any mention of abortion just to avoid the issue.

But sure, just strut out to the cameras and announce that you’re gonna make a national abortion ban the centerpiece of your appeal to voters in November.

What’s the worst that could happen?////////

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sagehen  Sep 12, 2022 • 10:16:54pm
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Nyet  Sep 12, 2022 • 10:21:53pm

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Belafon  Sep 12, 2022 • 10:22:41pm
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Belafon  Sep 12, 2022 • 10:24:20pm

re: #50 sagehen

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Captain Ron  Sep 12, 2022 • 10:35:45pm
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Amory Blaine  Sep 12, 2022 • 10:41:32pm

re: #52 Belafon

schadenbackpedalfreude

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Nyet  Sep 12, 2022 • 10:42:54pm

re: #55 Amory Blaine

Auslandsreiseinfrastrukturbenutzungseigenlandlebensdauer- nichterwartungseifersuchtsverwüstungsgefühl.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2022 • 11:50:08pm

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2022 • 11:53:26pm

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darthstar  Sep 12, 2022 • 11:55:47pm

So I watched the movie “Everything, Everywhere All At Once” on my flight home from Hawaii, and I have to say, what a fun fucking movie.

Here’s the trailer. It gets fucking weird at times with all the multiverse shit, but at the end of the day it’s about finding oneself. Watch it when you can.

Youtube Video

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 12:26:54am

re: #59 darthstar

A quality film, although totally not mine…

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 1:30:35am

Hopefully they will find all the collaborators in Kupyansk. Thanks to the pro-Russian blogger for documenting them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 1:47:20am

re: #20 jaunte

Again, as far back as the days of the Tea Party, the GOP refused to call out or at least distance itself from the most outrageous claims, accusations and statements. This led to a competition to see who could come up with the most over-the-top pronouncements.

To the point that these bat-shit crazy CT’s and talking points became accepted party doctrine.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 1:59:09am

re: #22 Dangerman

Religious Freedom: you do not have to recognize any couple as being married in the eyes of God

Civil Rights: you do have to respect the rights of married couples in the eyes of the Law

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 2:00:23am

re: #33 The Pie Overlord!

When Trump finally dies, he will appoint a psychic medium through whom he will continue to rule as President.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 2:03:29am

re: #50 sagehen

Again, remember Newt Gingrich’s comments on Obama’s “Kenyan World View”

By which he did not mean that in the sense of “former colony that achieved its independence through armed struggle” but rather “gangs of armed Mau-Maus butchering white settlers”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 2:09:46am

re: #56 Nyet

Auslandsreiseinfrastrukturbenutzungseigenlandlebensdauer- nichterwartungseifersuchtsverwüstungsgefühl.

That is Old Hochdeutsch. The modern term is “Neun-Euro-Ticket”

granted, it was only an experiment that expired at the end of August, but it was popular enough that it is expected to be implemented again in some form: the nine-euro nationwide monthly rail pass. Good for all local transportation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 2:10:28am

re: #59 darthstar

So I watched the movie “Everything, Everywhere All At Once” on my flight home from Hawaii, and I have to say, what a fun fucking movie.

Here’s the trailer. It gets fucking weird at times with all the multiverse shit, but at the end of the day it’s about finding oneself. Watch it when you can.

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Video

It is humorous, which really makes it highly enjoyable.

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2022 • 2:15:05am

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Again, as far back as the days of the Tea Party, the GOP refused to call out or at least distance itself from the most outrageous claims, accusations and statements. This led to a competition to see who could come up with the most over-the-top pronouncements.

To the point that these bat-shit crazy CT’s and talking points became accepted party doctrine.

Hell, it stretches further back than that. The GQP happily capitalized on the Swiftboat shit in ‘04, the leadership never explicitly endorsing it but happily “Just asking questions” to keep the media repeating all the BS. Or how they’d happily spent the prior decade dumpster-diving and muck-raking any “scandal” they could until all they were left with was getting Bill for lying about an affair.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 2:15:54am

re: #61 Nyet

Hopefully they will find all the collaborators in Kupyansk. Thanks to the pro-Russian blogger for documenting them.

I am not at all defending the actions of these people, but keep in mind, many of them were brainwashed into believing that they had simply been taken back into the Bosom of Mother Russia.

It is the cynical ringleaders and power-brokers who deserve the full weight of the law.

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2022 • 2:19:13am

re: #63 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Religious Freedom: you do not have to recognize any couple as being married in the eyes of God

Civil Rights: you do have to respect the rights of married couples in the eyes of the Law

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 2:42:26am

re: #66 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

if anything, 69. because it’s a nice number.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 2:45:05am

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am not at all defending the actions of these people, but keep in mind, many of them were brainwashed into believing that they had simply been taken back into the Bosom of Mother Russia.

It is the cynical ringleaders and power-brokers who deserve the full weight of the law.

Ehh, but that’s exactly why they dared to show their true faces.

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TarHellion  Sep 13, 2022 • 2:53:15am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 2:55:02am

re: #72 Nyet

Ehh, but that’s exactly why they dared to show their true faces.

anyone over age 40 remembers what it was like living under the USSR, when ethnic Russians were a privileged minority with access to better jobs, housing, education and possibilities for promotion…and they looked on Ukraine as part of the bigger empire dominated by Russia.

To them, Putin was just “setting things right”.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 2:57:56am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

sure, and if they suffer for being traitors, good.

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2022 • 2:58:39am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

anyone over age 40 remembers what it was like living under the USSR, when ethnic Russians were a privileged minority with access to better jobs, housing, education and possibilities for promotion…and they looked on Ukraine as part of the bigger empire dominated by Russia.

To them, Putin was just “setting things right”.

Many of whom are now sitting on the Russian border, crying because their shiny new Russian passports aren’t being accepted at the border crossing by the Russian soldiers who were there to “liberate” them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 3:07:22am

re: #76 Targetpractice

Many of whom are now sitting on the Russian border, crying because their shiny new Russian passports aren’t being accepted at the border crossing by the Russian soldiers who were there to “liberate” them.

Which shows the height of cynicism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 3:10:05am

re: #68 Targetpractice

Hell, it stretches further back than that. The GQP happily capitalized on the Swiftboat shit in ‘04, the leadership never explicitly endorsing it but happily “Just asking questions” to keep the media repeating all the BS. Or how they’d happily spent the prior decade dumpster-diving and muck-raking any “scandal” they could until all they were left with was getting Bill for lying about an affair.

It certainly has it origins there, but it was Obama that really got the heads exploding over him being a seekrit Muslim Fu-Manchurian Candidate Antichrist Lizard Person of the Paedophile Pizza Parlor Cellar Cabal

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sagehen  Sep 13, 2022 • 3:10:28am

re: #66 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is Old Hochdeutsch. The modern term is “Neun-Euro-Ticket”

granted, it was only an experiment that expired at the end of August, but it was popular enough that it is expected to be implemented again in some form: the nine-euro nationwide monthly rail pass. Good for all local transportation.

Is that similar to the Eurailpass I used for my multi-nation teenage tour of the Great Youth Hostels in Capitol Cities’ Sketchy Neighborhoods?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 3:15:34am

re: #81 sagehen

Is that similar to the Eurailpass I used for my multi-nation teenage tour of the Great Youth Hostels in Capitol Cities’ Sketchy Neighborhoods?

It was run as a test in June/July/August, good for local rail connections (No Intercity or ICE) for nine euros for the whole month for the whole country.

German train stations tend to be located downtown, which means that the immediate neighborhoods are often sketchy, but access is generally easy, with most bus and tram/subway lines connecting there.

Anyways, there are plans to reinstate the nationwide monthly pass for a less spectacular price (they are currently considering €49 euros, which is still a great deal for anyone who uses it regularly).

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2022 • 3:16:23am

re: #80 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It certainly has it origins there, but it was Obama that really got the heads exploding over him being a seekrit Muslim Mu-Fanchurian Candidate Antichrist Lizard Person of the Paedophile Pizza Parlor Cellar Cabal

To that I say three words: “Clinton Crime Family.” And really, the “Tea Party” was just a rebranding of the “Patriots” of the Dubya years, all swearing up and down that they totally weren’t racist BUT they were sure that that “uppity” black guy only got elected because of “white guilt” and that there was no way he could win reelection because people would go to the polls in 2012 and “vote their race.”

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sagehen  Sep 13, 2022 • 3:17:51am

re: #83 Targetpractice

they totally weren’t racist BUT they were sure that that “uppity” black guy only got elected because of “white guilt” and that there was no way he could win reelection because people would go to the polls in 2012 and “vote their race.”

which in 2016 they did…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 3:18:01am

re: #83 Targetpractice

To that I say three words: “Clinton Crime Family.” And really, the “Tea Party” was just a rebranding of the “Patriots” of the Dubya years, all swearing up and down that they totally weren’t racist BUT they were sure that that “uppity” black guy only got elected because of “white guilt”

and buying votes by promising Free Government Stuff.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 3:18:33am

re: #84 sagehen

which in 2016 they did…

still losing the popular vote by millions but securing an Electoral College victory, which is all that counts.

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sagehen  Sep 13, 2022 • 3:27:12am

I’ll never forgive the BernieBros and Jill Shills for that. I’m still nursing a grudge for Ralph Nader and his supporters.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 3:30:11am

re: #87 sagehen

I’ll never forgive the BernieBros and Jill Shills for that. I’m still nursing a grudge for Ralph Nader and his supporters.

There was much ratfucking on the part of the GOP to get out the vote for Bernie and Jill

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sagehen  Sep 13, 2022 • 3:34:04am

re: #88 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was much ratfucking on the part of the GOP Manafort, Kilimnik, Facebook and the Internet Research Agency to get out the vote for Bernie and Jill

There’s a heavily promoted new TV show just debuted on Sunday that sounds right up my alley, but I can’t bring myself to watch because Susan Sarandon stars.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 3:36:01am

I always said that there were more people who wanted Bernie to be the 2016 Democratic candidate than wanted him to be President.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 13, 2022 • 3:47:09am

Two for Tuesday, and why I may wait to retire.

Minnesota nurses began a three-day strike on Monday in protest of pay and staffing shortages, in the largest private-sector nurses’ strike in U.S. history.

Supported by ‘Squad’ member Ilhan Omar, who represents Minnesota in Congress, and the Democrat governor of Minnesota, Tim Waltz, 15,000 nurses angered by conditions and pay went on strike.

snip

The Minnesota Nurses Association has proposed a 30 percent pay increase over the next three years, noting inflation is at a 40-year high.

Health-care groups have proposed a pay increase of 10 to 12 percent.

‘The union’s wage demands remain at 29 and 30 percent increases over three years, which we’ve told them is unrealistic and unaffordable,’ Omodt said.

dailymail.co.uk
Another example:

The Biden administration is scrambling to head off freight rail strikes at the end of the week that could cost as much as $2 billion per day, further choking supply chains and causing what the U.S. Chamber of Commerce warned would be an ‘economic disaster.’

Labor Secretary Marty Walsh has canceled travel plans and the White House is holding crisis meetings.

Unions and railroads have until Friday to agree contracts for tens of thousands of workers.

snip

They were based on the presidential emergency board’s recommendations that called for 24 percent raises over five years, $5,000 in bonuses and an extra day of paid leave a year.

But those agreements do not include some of the biggest unions and more than half of 115,000 workers involved in talks.

As a result, rail companies have begun putting shutdown plans into action.

dailymail.co.uk

I certainly don’t want to lock in a pension at the beginning of an inflationary trend.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 13, 2022 • 3:56:41am

Now we’re back into it.

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Dangerman  Sep 13, 2022 • 4:13:14am

re: #63 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Religious Freedom: you do not have to recognize any couple as being married in the eyes of God

Civil Rights: you do have to respect the rights of married couples in the eyes of the Law

+1

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Dangerman  Sep 13, 2022 • 4:19:06am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I always said that there were more people who wanted Bernie to be the 2016 Democratic candidate than wanted him to be President.

And I always said if there were enough, he’d have won.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 4:19:20am

re: #91 Shropshire Slasher

Minnesota nurses began a three-day strike on Monday in protest of pay and staffing shortages, in the largest private-sector nurses’ strike in U.S. history.

Supported by ‘Squad’ member Ilhan Omar,

“Ilhan Omar cancelled my mother’s gall bladder operation!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 4:20:54am

re: #94 Dangerman

And I always said if there were enough, he’d have won.

Don’t forget the nuances of open vs. closed primaries vs. caucuses & super-delegates…

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Moe Avattar  Sep 13, 2022 • 4:26:31am

re: #91 Shropshire Slasher

Youtube Video

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 4:41:13am

LOL, Ukrainian news depicts Russian soldiers as piggies.

Youtube Video

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 13, 2022 • 4:52:12am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Ilhan Omar cancelled my mother’s gall bladder operation!”

I support Ilhan Omar’s attempt to get overworked nurses more pay.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 13, 2022 • 4:52:56am

re: #49 Targetpractice

It’s less than two months until the midterms.

Your party has already suffered two massive upsets since the Dobbs ruling dropped that were a total shock to pundits.

Polling and registration data alike shows that there has been a massive influx of women into the voter pool since said ruling.

And numerous candidates have had to wipe entire sections of their campaign websites of any mention of abortion just to avoid the issue.

But sure, just strut out to the cameras and announce that you’re gonna make a national abortion ban the centerpiece of your appeal to voters in November.

What’s the worst that could happen?////////

He must believe it will rally their bade. That is the only thing that makes amy sense.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Sep 13, 2022 • 4:56:58am

Morning Lizards.

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gocart mozart  Sep 13, 2022 • 5:03:32am
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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 13, 2022 • 5:19:55am

Disturbing.

A Texas teen has been arrested after he was allegedly caught in a shocking video mowing down a disabled man and then driving away without helping him.

Pablo Antonio Avila-Banagas, 17, was booked into Travis County Jail Friday on charges that include failure to stop and render aid, injury to a disabled person and unlawful possession of a firearm.

nypost.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 13, 2022 • 5:34:23am

re: #35 wrenchwench

To me the most likely theory is golf execs getting chewed out by Trump because it makes him feel better. But I like the title.

I can’t wait for them to all be identified.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2022 • 5:37:38am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 5:40:22am

re: #99 Shropshire Slasher

I support Ilhan Omar’s attempt to get overworked nurses more pay.

“Nobody wants to be overworked anymore!”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 13, 2022 • 5:44:44am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Doing sign up for the job if you can’t handle it!”

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jeffreyw  Sep 13, 2022 • 5:52:12am

Chemo Sucks

Good morning!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2022 • 6:00:05am

Florida:

Lee County GOP to consider branding WHO as terrorists and barring IRS and FBI agents

Another resolution takes aim at use of Dominion electronic voting machines.

Lee County Republicans this week will consider resolutions demanding Florida outlaw electronic voting machines and federal agents. They will also consider whether to declare the World Health Organization (WHO) and World Economic Forum (WEF) as terrorist organizations.

The series of controversial resolutions will appear on the agenda for a special meeting to be held Sept. 15 at party headquarters. The meeting will be closed to the public, with only REC members permitted to attend.

Jonathan Martin, Chair of the Lee County Republican Executive Committee (REC), stressed that the resolutions do not represent the view of the REC unless and until a majority of members support adopting them.

“They are not necessarily a priority of the party until the party chooses to make them a priority,” said Martin, a likely incoming state Senator.

Martin said the resolutions were proposed at the last REC meeting, a contentious event that spanned four hours, but came up only after many members had already left and there was no longer a quorum.

Three members proposed four resolutions at that point, but with no ability to take a vote, a special meeting was called, Martin said.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2022 • 6:02:01am

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

Are Desantis and Abbott in a race to out-crazy each other or something?

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steve_davis  Sep 13, 2022 • 6:03:18am

unable to shower. barely able to type. A large, roughly 10 pound mass, covered with hair, teeth, and a disposition given to neurotic self-cleaning, has grown out of my lap after crouching by my chair for several minutes, giving me the “please, I’m freezing down here. Let me warm my tootsies on your warm, warm legs” look. So she is up here, mostly forgotten about except that as I type, her whiskers and tiny ears are rubbing against my arm as she works on policing up some acreage of fur.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 6:04:41am

re: #111 steve_davis

“Stephen King story but cute”

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Dangerman  Sep 13, 2022 • 6:04:42am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 6:07:26am

re: #110 Eclectic Cyborg

Are Desantis and Abbott in a race to out-crazy each other or something?

The whole GOP has been engaged in an attention-grabbing race to bottom of the barrel of crazy and they are still on their way down.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 6:08:10am

re: #113 Dangerman

Liz Truss used the cover of the Queen’s demise to open up large areas of the UK for fracking.

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Dangerman  Sep 13, 2022 • 6:11:59am

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

Florida:

Lee County GOP to consider branding WHO as terrorists and barring IRS and FBI agents

This is are clubhous.
No girlz allowed!!!
We declare that we rule.

Fucking performative children

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2022 • 6:12:32am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2022 • 6:14:59am

*THUD*

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Dangerman  Sep 13, 2022 • 6:19:45am

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

*THUD*

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This? Ok it is some Sort of miracle, i guess

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2022 • 6:26:12am
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Dopamine Fish  Sep 13, 2022 • 6:28:00am

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 6:31:30am

Youtube Video

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 6:32:55am

Remember those Halcyon days back when Lyndon LaRouche accused the Queen of being a drug dealer?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 13, 2022 • 6:34:16am

So commonly heard today from the usual crowd (e.g. BNP) that the UK has too many immigrants from the south, that immigrants are taking over the UK, etc.

But look at this picture of the new King addressing the combined Parliament of Commons and Lords:

Very very white with only a few darker skinned folk widely scattered in the crowd.

And of course many are quite old.

Me thinks that over the next decade or two there is going to be a huge shift in the UK as the old generation dies off.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 13, 2022 • 6:37:04am

re: #122 Nyet

Long live the queen??

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2022 • 6:40:32am
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Eventual Carrion  Sep 13, 2022 • 6:40:37am

re: #73 TarHellion

A quite satisfying birdie 3. Waking up to 56 degrees and noticeably lower humidity. Still will have highs around 80 - but should feel so much better! Enjoy the day/evening everyone!

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dat_said  Sep 13, 2022 • 6:59:05am

re: #33 The Pie Overlord!

That looks more like Trump acknowledging he plans on grifting and losing for the next 25+ years.

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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:00:25am

There is a good NPR article on the hot new topic of Quiet Quitting.

The economics behind ‘quiet quitting’ — and what we should call it instead

Over the last several weeks, the concept of “quiet quitting” has exploded like a supernova across the media universe.

The big bang began on TikTok, with a video uploaded by a 20-something engineer named Zaid Khan. With the sound of a piano playing a ragtime-style tune and summertime shots of New York City flashing across the screen, Khan narrates a 17-second video that has introduced millions of people to the idea.

“I recently learned about this term called quiet quitting, where you’re not outright quitting your job, but you’re quitting the idea of going above and beyond,” Khan says. “You’re still performing your duties, but you’re no longer subscribing to the hustle culture mentality that work has to be your life. The reality is it’s not — and your worth as a person is not defined by your labor.”

Quiet quitting, in other words, is not really about quitting. It’s more like a philosophy for doing the bare minimum at your job.

If you aren’t being compensated appropriately for everything you do, this should be the first step while you look for a better job.

However it will only go so far since a job action by only one person has little impact on the wallet of the owner class.

Organizing a Union will allow multiple workers to have a positive impact on their productivity, compensation, work environment and everything else needed to help a worker receive the actual value of their labor rather than the fraction of the value that the owners want to get away with paying for the value of their workers’ labor.

No matter what the Republicans claim, class war is ongoing, and they have been winning. That can be changed, and freedom can win again here like Ukrainians are winning in the Donbas.

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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:02:19am
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Belafon  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:11:07am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:14:15am

re: #131 Belafon

Apparently, the Russians want to be allowed to withdraw with their weapons intact.

I expect the Ukrainian response to that will go something like this:

laugh harder

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:18:38am

Markos has a bunch of tweets and comments about the latest status in Ukraine, if you want to see them, you can find them here: dailykos.com

But I will copy this one over in addition to the one above:

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:21:25am

We’re going back to NY again for my granddaughter’s engagement party.

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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:22:35am

Yesterday I left for work early to look for photo opportunities. I drove south of Eau Claire and decide to drive past where my grandmother lived a lifetime ago. To say she had issue is to understate it. Her alcoholism (“you can’t be an alcoholic if you only drink beer”) was in some ways the least of it. The house was, bluntly, a four-room shack where the sleeping areas were divided between her sons and daughters by sheets hung as curtains. It was ripped down as soon as she died, and no one misses it. One of my uncles and his wife had a mobile home on the property for a time till he died from cirrhosis of the liver a few years later. Like mother like son, I guess.

The property has apparently been sold again and there is now a huge & fugly McMansion going up there. At least a couple of the oaks I played under as a boy survive. The grass runway and hangers next door of the Piper J3 Cub owner I first flew with are long gone; the land being turned into housing plots.

Good night moon…

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:24:31am

2022. QR code for a surrender.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:32:35am

re: #133 Belafon

I’m not sure Russian soldiers would want to go home after surrendering. Ideally they’d try to get their families out, or else they’ll all be disappeared by FSB.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:34:46am

re: #137 GlutenFreeJesus

I’m not sure Russian soldiers would want to go home after surrendering.

I would think most would wish nothing else.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:40:45am

OT. Good juju appreciated.

Ms. Cyborg just took our 10 year old doggo to the vet. She’s lost some weight and we think she is nearly blind and may have arthritis. She is still eating, drinking and pooping as dogs do so we don’t think anything is imminent, but my wife has already lost her mother this year and I’d hate for us to lose our beloved dog on top of that.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:41:05am
The President of Kazakhstan Kassym-Jomart Tokayev supported renaming of the capital from Nur-Sultan back into Astana. Spokesman for the president Ruslan Zheldibai announced, according to local media on Tuesday.

Except he initiated the renaming into “Nur-Sultan” a couple of years ago lol.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:42:31am

re: #108 jeffreyw

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Western good morning!

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lizardofid  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:45:40am

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

Florida:

Lee County GOP to consider branding WHO as terrorists and barring IRS and FBI agents

So, the opening shots of the Civil War may well be fired on Fort Sumter Fort Myers.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:46:51am
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austin_blue  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:47:25am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Oh ma gerd that groove is so deep. This is the real shit.

My name is Bootsy, baby, and I am here to funk you.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:48:26am

And thus, Republicans will run on curing cancer because Democrats can’t, and then cut funding for medications and further research:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:48:54am

re: #138 Nyet

I would think most would wish nothing else.

Definitely at first. But if putin rounds them all up as traitors, it could get very ugly. That’s the one thing I’d worry about.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:50:21am

re: #146 GlutenFreeJesus

Definitely at first. But if putin rounds them all up as traitors, it could get very ugly. That’s the one thing I’d worry about.

Why would he do that?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:51:24am

re: #147 Nyet

For running away from battle.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:52:09am

re: #148 GlutenFreeJesus

For running away from battle.

That’s normal in a war.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:54:37am

re: #137 GlutenFreeJesus

I’m not sure Russian soldiers would want to go home after surrendering. Ideally they’d try to get their families out, or else they’ll all be disappeared by FSB.

The conscripts from the back-country won’t want to return because they would return to poverty. I would think the FSB would not bother with them.

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Jay C  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:54:45am

re: #136 Nyet

2022. QR code for a surrender.

“Welcome to the official Surrender Helpline. Your capitulation is important to us, so please hold on for the next available representative.
If you are Russian Regular Army, press 1.
If you are servicemember of Luhansk or Donetsk Republic militia, press 2.
If you are contract mercenary, press 3.
If you are member of Chechen forces, or Chechen-related organizations, please hang up and go straight to Hell.

We are currently experiencing unusual call volume due to mass military setbacks in the Kherson Oblast, a surrender specialist will be with you as soon as possible.”

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:55:49am

re: #150 Sherlock Hound

The conscripts from the back-country won’t want to return because they would return to poverty.

It’s not like anyone is asking whether they want to return or not in the first place…

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:56:52am

There are POWs in every war. Putin knows about this. There’s no evidence any Russian POWs have been repressed merely for having been POWs (even though this necessitates giving up).

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:58:31am

re: #151 Jay C

“If you’re a Kadyryovite, press 0 and wait right there.”
[Missile hits]

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2022 • 7:59:55am

re: #40 JC1

5/6. I really think that I should have gotten it earlier.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:03:28am

re: #137 GlutenFreeJesus

I’m not sure Russian soldiers would want to go home after surrendering. Ideally they’d try to get their families out, or else they’ll all be disappeared by FSB.

If there are enough of them, the FSB can’t disappear them all. This is no longer Stalin’s NKVD terror state

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:06:11am

re: #156 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If there are enough of them, the FSB can’t disappear them all. This is no longer Stalin’s NKVD terror state

We hope.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:07:17am

re: #155 Hecuba’s daughter

4 for me

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steve_davis  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:07:48am

re: #135 William Lewis

Yesterday I left for work early to look for photo opportunities. I drove south of Eau Claire and decide to drive past where my grandmother lived a lifetime ago. To say she had issue is to understate it. Her alcoholism (“you can’t be an alcoholic if you only drink beer”) was in some ways the least of it. The house was, bluntly, a four-room shack where the sleeping areas were divided between her sons and daughters by sheets hung as curtains. It was ripped down as soon as she died, and no one misses it. One of my uncles and his wife had a mobile home on the property for a time till he died from cirrhosis of the liver a few years later. Like mother like son, I guess.

The property has apparently been sold again and there is now a huge & fugly McMansion going up there. At least a couple of the oaks I played under as a boy survive. The grass runway and hangers next door of the Piper J3 Cub owner I first flew with are long gone; the land being turned into housing plots.

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Good night moon…

jesus, that looks like a welcome center for one of those uppity states that invests in its highway system.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:07:54am

heh

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steve_davis  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:12:04am

re: #147 Nyet

Why would he do that?

the same reason it was done after wwii. you can’t have large numbers of people returning and talking about how much better the English and American prisoners of war had it, how they got aid packages constantly because their nations had signed international conventions allowing for red cross distributions, etc.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:12:15am

re: #139 Eclectic Cyborg

OT. Good juju appreciated.

Ms. Cyborg just took our 10 year old doggo to the vet. She’s lost some weight and we think she is nearly blind and may have arthritis. She is still eating, drinking and pooping as dogs do so we don’t think anything is imminent, but my wife has already lost her mother this year and I’d hate for us to lose our beloved dog on top of that.

My two 15 yr. old cats each chose one of us as their fave when they were kittens. The one who chose Mr. w now seems older than his litter mate.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:13:52am

re: #161 steve_davis

the same reason it was done after wwii. you can’t have large numbers of people returning and talking about how much better the English and American prisoners of war had it, how they got aid packages constantly because their nations had signed international conventions allowing for red cross distributions, etc.

The difference being Stalin’s Soviet Union could take over other countries.

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steve_davis  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:14:00am

re: #153 Nyet

There are POWs in every war. Putin knows about this. There’s no evidence any Russian POWs have been repressed merely for having been POWs (even though this necessitates giving up).

The Russians imprisoned 10s of millions of returning soldiers and POW’s after WWII in the infamous Gulag systems, merely because they had either been in prison camps and observed Western prisoner treatment as a comparison, or because they had escaped from German POW camps and thus were suspected of potentially being deep spies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:15:36am

re: #164 steve_davis

The Russians imprisoned 10s of millions of returning soldiers and POW’s after WWII in the infamous Gulag systems…

because anyone who did not fight to the death was suspected of not being a True Patriot

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:16:00am

4/6

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No Malarkey!  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:17:03am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:17:26am

Doggo update: Physically she is mostly okay. Bloodwork was normal. Other tests were normal. She definitely has vision issues and likely mental decline / possible dementia but she is pretty old for her breed so that is to be expected.

Bottom line, mental decline aside, she is relatively healthy and there is nothing imminent we need to be concerned about.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:17:49am

re: #161 steve_davis

the same reason it was done after wwii. you can’t have large numbers of people returning and talking about how much better the English and American prisoners of war had it, how they got aid packages constantly because their nations had signed international conventions allowing for red cross distributions, etc.

There are only Russian POWs this time.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:18:48am

re: #164 steve_davis

The Russians imprisoned 10s of millions of returning soldiers and POW’s after WWII in the infamous Gulag systems, merely because they had either been in prison camps and observed Western prisoner treatment as a comparison, or because they had escaped from German POW camps and thus were suspected of potentially being deep spies.

We are not talking about WWII.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:20:15am

re: #167 No Malarkey!

Despite his disclaimer, the racist @vandalibm’s Twitter account was suspended.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:23:13am

re: #159 steve_davis

jesus, that looks like a welcome center for one of those uppity states that invests in its highway system.

On our cross-country bike trip in 1986, Mr. w and I went from the southwest corner of Kansas, into the OK panhandle, barely missing Texas, and crossed into New Mexico. We got to the rest area/welcome center and thought we got to heaven. There was green grass, which we hadn’t seen for days, spectacular landscaping, bathrooms with hot and cold running water, and the largest rolls of toilet paper I had ever seen in my life. The attendant invited us to his ancestral home, which wasn’t too far out of our way, but it was up a mountain. We had to decline. Nine years later, we moved to New Mexico, and stayed for 25 years.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:24:21am

re: #97 Moe Avattar

That was brilliant. The Daily Mail is the new National Enquirer… With less Bat Boy. There may be a story here and there that’s somewhat accurate but it’s all rabel rousing bullshit. The same with the New York Post. And some people mainline these two rags like beer during Octoberfest.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:25:41am

That’s quite a loss for the Russians. So far, the Ukrainians haven’t disclosed the number of POWs taken.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:26:04am

re: #167 No Malarkey!

Gotta be honest, I figured our dystopian future would include horrors like deepfake revenge porn and AI bot catfishing, but I was not expecting “using AI to whitewash diverse movie characters.”

I can’t wait to see his Bridgerton massacree.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:26:50am

re: #167 No Malarkey!

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Because what they really want is Disney going after them.

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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:27:11am

re: #167 No Malarkey!

At least the racists account is currently suspended ;)

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:28:50am

re: #172 wrenchwench

The previous ‘rest stop’ was on an abandoned federal highway in OK, with one concrete picnic table under a shade made out of old guard rails. The bathrooms had been removed, and the TP litter trailed into the unfenced corn field. I have not been back to OK.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:33:09am

re: #167 No Malarkey!

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Someone should take Gone With the Wind and swap all out of the characters.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:33:16am

re: #129 William Lewis

I disagree with their definition of Quiet Quitting. I read it as you do your job competently and are continuously bombarded with more and more and more work because you’re good, you’re competent and it’s ok if you need to work 12 hours every day to accomplish what we’ve tasked you with. And if you do all that, well, here’s some more.

Big difference in definition.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:34:28am

re: #131 Belafon

Apparently, the Russians want to be allowed to withdraw with their weapons intact.

That’s a hard no. Nope. Not gonna happen.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:35:04am

re: #178 wrenchwench

The previous ‘rest stop’ was on an abandoned federal highway in OK, with one concrete picnic table under a shade made out of old guard rails. The bathrooms had been removed, and the TP litter trailed into the unfenced corn field. I have not been back to OK.

They have gotten better even in Texas, but most of them have also been eliminated because there are way more marks of civilization around than there used to be.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:37:24am

re: #174 Dr Lizardo

Is there an official Ukr. source? This account seems … uncritical.

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CleverToad  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:38:24am

re: #121 Dopamine Fish

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:38:31am

re: #182 Belafon

They have gotten better even in Texas, but most of them have also been eliminated because there are way more marks of civilization around than there used to be.

We we not near modernity, because that was sprouting up along the freeways, and we were far from those.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:38:33am

Evidence that billionaires are bad and we should tax them into oblivion, as though that wasn’t already obvious.

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Jay C  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:38:55am

re: #174 Dr Lizardo

That’s quite a loss for the Russians. So far, the Ukrainians haven’t disclosed the number of POWs taken.

HUGE if true: a “prestige” force of armored and mechanized divisions (presumably armed with top-of-the-line equipment) “broken and scattered”?? And seemingly reduced to even thinking of having to negotiate surrender terms?

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:40:28am

Heh. A B-52 Stratofortress just flew over my apartment building. On its way to Mošnov Airport for NATO Days this weekend.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:42:11am

re: #185 wrenchwench

We we not near modernity, because that was sprouting up along the freeways, and we were far from those.

I remember them back then. Even the good ones here in Texas at that time, the ones with modern buildings and toilets, were basically built on top of the septic tank. You could see down into the chemicals and the other stuff if you looked down in the toilet.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:42:44am

re: #183 Nyet

The original source on the 1st Guards was the British MoD.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:43:13am

re: #186 No Malarkey!

Evidence that billionaires are bad and we should tax them into oblivion, as though that wasn’t already obvious.

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Which conference?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:45:41am

re: #174 Dr Lizardo

That’s quite a loss for the Russians. So far, the Ukrainians haven’t disclosed the number of POWs taken.

What does a country do with tens of thousands of POWs? Can they care for them? If it was Russia, they’d kill POWs without a second thought. Ukraine won’t (which is good).

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A Cranky One  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:47:11am

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:47:33am

re: #190 Dr Lizardo

I mean on the alleged “10s of thousands” of possible POWs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:47:38am

re: #191 Belafon

Which conference?

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A Cranky One  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:48:56am

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:49:31am

re: #194 Nyet

I mean on the alleged “10s of thousands” of possible POWs.

That I don’t know. I’ve seen that floating around for the last few days. Tens of thousands might be a euphoric exaggeration, but several hundreds or low thousands I could certainly see.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:51:18am

re: #192 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

If it was Russia, they’d kill POWs without a second thought.

If we are talking about the lessons of history, USSR took more than 3 million Axis POWs and didn’t kill most of them. There is no reason to think Putin would actually be worse than Stalin.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:52:22am

re: #197 Dr Lizardo

I’ve seen 20k floated as a future possibility, but not as a done deal…

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Crush White Nationalism  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:52:44am

Alex Jones is in court again.

Youtube Video

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No Malarkey!  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:53:39am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:54:52am

re: #199 Nyet

I’ve seen 20k floated as a future possibility, but not as a done deal…

That’s a significant number, to say the very least.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:58:06am

re: #202 Dr Lizardo

That’s a significant number, to say the very least.

IIUC most of those managed to flee, so that will have to be a future goal. I’m sure if such huge amounts of POWs had been taken, we would immediately know from the Ukr. sources.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:59:32am

re: #201 No Malarkey!

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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2022 • 8:59:46am

Seems like Wiki is having an editing war about 1GA.

This was up:

1st Guards Tank Army

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:00:05am
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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:02:04am

re: #203 Nyet

IIUC most of those managed to flee, so that will have to be a future goal. I’m sure if such huge amounts of POWs had been taken, we would immediately know from the Ukr. sources.

PS: not to mention all the Russian Telegram “war correspondents”, who would have been screaming bloody hell and cursing Putin and Shoigu.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:03:12am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:04:12am

re: #198 Nyet

If we are talking about the lessons of history, USSR took more than 3 million Axis POWs and didn’t kill most of them. There is no reason to think Putin would actually be worse than Stalin.

I’m struggling with applying any humanity to Putin and to be frank, a lot of Russian people. Taking babies not just away from their mothers but away from their country to God only knows where, rape (with the approval of the soldier’s wives and mother’s), targeting civilians, all kinds of things. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t put this on all Russians and there are as many Americans who’d gladly do the same things for trump, but Putin I do believe would do as much retribution as he could.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:05:19am
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Belafon  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:05:36am

re: #209 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m struggling with applying any humanity to Putin and to be frank, a lot of Russian people. Taking babies not just away from their mothers but away from their country to God only knows where, rape (with the approval of the soldier’s wives and mother’s), targeting civilians, all kinds of things. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t put this on all Russians and there are as many Americans who’d gladly do the same things for trump, but Putin I do believe would do as much retribution as he could.

They gladly did it for Trump to the immigrants coming up from the South.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:07:50am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:08:02am

re: #211 Belafon

They gladly did it for Trump to the immigrants coming up from the South.

Exactly. And given the opportunity, who knows what else they would have done. That’s why I said this isn’t in all Russians. But to many there support it just add too many here.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:08:15am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:08:32am
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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:09:40am

re: #209 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Unlike Putin, Stalin actually personally ordered to kill significant groups of POWs en masse (you remember Katyn), and Stalin was, in fact, much worse and bloodthirstier than Putin. So the fact that even under Stalin most enemy POWs remained alive argues against this hypothesis. Also consider that even the Azov bogeymen (vis a vis Putin’s propaganda) were taken alive and most remain alive so far.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:11:48am

re: #216 Nyet

And the reason you don’t kill the enemy POWs is also practical, rather than humane: the enemy will begin to kill your POWs too.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:12:11am
Russian troops have surrendered en masse in the face of a rapid Ukrainian counter-attack that is continuing to gain ground today, leading some to hope that a turning point in the war has finally been reached.

Kyiv’s military intelligence said large numbers of Moscow’s soldiers had laid down their weapons rather than fight troops advancing east out of Kharkiv because ‘they understand the hopelessness of their situation’.

Oleksiy Arestovich, adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, said the military has captured so many Russian soldiers over the last several days that it is running out of space to house them - with military intelligence spokesman Andrey Yusov adding that ‘significant’ numbers of Russian officers are among them.

dailymail.co.uk

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:13:07am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:14:39am

re: #214 Belafon

Because spending insane amounts of money on an endless war is something Conservatives would never EVER do…

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:15:32am

re: #214 Belafon

Pfft. Everyone knows that mermaids look like this:

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austin_blue  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:16:32am

re: #110 Eclectic Cyborg

Are Desantis and Abbott in a race to out-crazy each other or something?

Yes, yes they are.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:16:35am

Oops. Meant to respond to #215.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:16:53am

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

I actually reserve “Thug” for Texas Local and State Law Enforcement. Seems to fit better there.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:17:35am

re: #220 Eclectic Cyborg

Because spending insane amounts of money on an endless war is something Conservatives would never EVER do…

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Yes, but democracies aren’t supposed to win.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:21:00am
Shocking video shows what appears to be a Russian warplane crashing and bursting into a fireball immediately after taking off from Crimea — as the Kremlin’s harried forces continued losing ground to Ukraine’s lightning counter-offensive.

nypost.com

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:28:44am

re: #226 Shropshire Slasher

Do you ever read anything but the daily fail and new york post? Are you trying to increase their readership by continuously posting their crap here?

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Crush White Nationalism  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:30:31am
More than 150 Michigan Republicans launched a new campaign effort to boost the reelection prospects of Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D) against GOP opponent Tudor Dixon, who is backed by former President Trump.

Republicans for Whitmer is led by a leadership council of 35 Republicans from Michigan, including business leaders, former lawmakers and staff who served under former state GOP Govs. John Engler and Rick Snyder.

‘Republicans for Whitmer’ launches in Michigan (TheHill)

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:32:01am

re: #226 Shropshire Slasher

What is the NY Post official position on Ukraine? We know that Murdoch celebrity anchors on Fox are pro-Putin. What about his other outlets? Is he trying to have it both ways with some “journalists” pro-Putin and others pro-Ukraine?

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Crush White Nationalism  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:33:31am
Chicago native Ramsey Lewis, the iconic jazz pianist and composer who scored on the pop charts with the 1965 hit “The In Crowd,” died Monday at 87.

A statement on his Facebook page listed no cause of death but said Mr. Lewis “died peacefully at his home in Chicago” Monday morning.

Ramsey Lewis, Chicago-born jazz great, dies at 87 (Chicago Sun-Times)

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:34:41am

One interesting linguistic point is that some Ukrainians use the word “kafir” to describe the Russian occupiers.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:38:45am
Inflation rose more than expected in August as rising shelter and food costs offset a drop in gas prices, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Tuesday.

The consumer price index, which tracks a broad swath of goods and services, increased 0.1% for the month and 8.3% over the past year. Excluding volatile food and energy costs, CPI rose 0.6% from July and 6.3% from the same month in 2021.

Economists had been expecting headline inflation to fall 0.1% and core to increase 0.3%, according to Dow Jones estimates. The respective year-over-year forecasts were for 8% and 6% gains.

Energy prices fell 5% for the month, led by a 10.6% slide in the gasoline index. However, those declines were offset by increases elsewhere.

The food index increased 0.8% in August and shelter costs, which make up about one-third of the weighting in the CPI, jumped 0.7% and are up 6.2% from a year ago.

Medical care services also showed a big gain, rising 0.8% on the month and up 5.6% from August 2021. New vehicle prices also climbed, increasing 0.8% though used vehicles fell 0.1%.

cnbc.com

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:42:44am

I saw that railway workers are thinking about striking. I do hope they get more, and I realize there’s always an election to worry about, but less than 2 months before one of the most pivotal ones ever, what would collapsing the existing fragile supply chain do for their cause?

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:44:26am

re: #233 Belafon

I saw that railway workers are thinking about striking. I do hope they get more, and I realize there’s always an election to worry about, but less than 2 months before one of the most pivotal ones ever, what would collapsing the existing fragile supply chain do for their cause?

Get it lots of attention.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:45:24am

re: #232 Shropshire Slasher

Damn. Looks like we’ll be stuck with ongoing inflation for awhile.

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Dangerman  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:47:44am

re: #214 Belafon

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i’d start with this: it’s not “their money”

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:48:49am

re: #236 Dangerman

i’d start with this: it’s not “their money”

They only take calls from sycophants, so it’s not like they’re lying.

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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:48:55am

re: #236 Dangerman

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Crush White Nationalism  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:49:17am

re: #214 Belafon

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dat_said  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:49:18am

Fell. Off his yacht.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:50:16am

re: #240 dat_said

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Fell. Off his yacht.

Reports say the yacht was going full speed when he fell off.

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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:50:56am

re: #240 dat_said

Fell. Off his yacht.

Depending on how drunk he was, it _could_ be a legitimate accident.

Did he complain about the war though?

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Dangerman  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:53:30am

re: #237 Dopamine Fish

They only take calls from sycophants, so it’s not like they’re lying.

yes, that part is true.

it’s this asinine argument ‘i dont want my money going to…”
it basically ignores that there’s an entire government that exists, and has a function.

similar to when they say ‘he’s not my president, or senator’ or whatever

or in reverse when a president, or senator, or rep says “i only represent those who voted for me..”

that’s NOT how any of this works.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:54:34am

re: #240 dat_said

Fell. Off his yacht.

Correction: a cutter, not a yacht.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:54:40am

re: #193 A Cranky One

“I’m fightin’ for my rats!”

Youtube Video

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:55:25am

re: #240 dat_said

Fell. Off his yacht.

Well if there are no windows around, you gotta improvise.

/

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Dangerman  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:55:49am

re: #240 dat_said

[Embedded content]

Fell. Off his yacht.

through a window?

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Dangerman  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:56:34am

re: #246 Eclectic Cyborg

Well if there are no windows around, you gotta improvise.

/

re: #247 Dangerman

through a window?

24 seconds

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:57:23am

re: #237 Dopamine Fish

They only take calls from sycophants, so it’s not like they’re lying.

They’re lying. Granted, they do only record calls from sycophants, but they’re still lying. If it comes out of their mouths, they’re lying. And I’d venture to guess that all those calls were from big, strong men with tears in their eyes, men who’ve never before cried in their lives.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:57:47am

New details of the death of the Russian top manager appeared in the Telegram channel Baza.

According to the publication, the man and his friends were intoxicated when they boarded the recreational motorboat. In addition, Pechorin decided to swim before sailing, which angered the captain of the boat, who did not want to go to sea after sunset.

The channel’s source reported that the company continued to drink on the boat. Forty minutes after sailing, the captain was informed of a man overboard. Presumably, Pechorin fell into the water from the deck in the bow of the vessel. According to another version, the top manager, ignoring the comments of the captain, sat on the decorative fence and fell into the sea, when the boat was rocking on the water, the publication writes. Immediately after that, the captain turned the boat and together with the team began to search.

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Dangerman  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:58:18am

apparently this didnt go they way he planned

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:59:39am

re: #251 Dangerman

apparently this didnt go they way he planned

Imagine that. 👀

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Dangerman  Sep 13, 2022 • 9:59:58am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:00:12am

re: #198 Nyet

If we are talking about the lessons of history, USSR took more than 3 million Axis POWs and didn’t kill most of them. There is no reason to think Putin would actually be worse than Stalin.

They kept many German prisoners until 1956…

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Dangerman  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:00:28am
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dat_said  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:00:31am

re: #250 Nyet

Thanks for the details. Truly looks like an accident of the drunk kind.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:00:54am

re: #250 Nyet

That sounds like a genuine accident. Death by misadventure with intoxication as a contributing factor.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:01:05am

re: #254 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They kept many German prisoners until 1956…

And many French ones after 1812. Many became teachers of French…

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:02:17am

Dumb Ways to Die

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Dangerman  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:03:16am
Tara Palmeri: “Rick Scott came to Washington with a twinkle in his eye after a very successful run in the private sector and the Tallahassee governor’s mansion. He thought he could apply his maverick ways to running the N.R.S.C., only to learn that there’s only one way to do things in the Senate—and that’s McConnell’s way.”

i love the bold - ignoring the single largest medicare fraudster in history

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:05:14am

re: #217 Nyet

And the reason you don’t kill the enemy POWs is also practical, rather than humane: the enemy will begin to kill your POWs too.

…and also practical in that if enemy soldiers find out you are killing POW’s, they are more likely to fight to the last.

The SS massacre at Malmedy did a lot to stiffen US resistance during the Battle of the Bulge.

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ckkatz  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:05:53am

The CPAC heart-throb:

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BigPapa  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:06:33am

‘very successful run in the private sector’ means getting stupidly rich cheating the government and getting away with. The Golden Rule of Anti-Government Extremism: screwing the government is winning. It’s what patriots do.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:07:07am

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

“woke” covers everything from n****r through Antifa to (((cosmopolitan))) to BLM & f****t in one convenient, easy-to-spell term.

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ckkatz  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:07:13am
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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:07:59am

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

…and also practical in that if enemy soldiers find out you are killing POW’s, they are more likely to fight to the last.

The SS massacre at Malmedy did a lot to stiffen US resistance during the Battle of the Bulge.

Yep.

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John Hughes  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:08:43am

re: #191 Belafon

Which conference?

Wannsee 2018.

(Edit: fix the year)

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:08:54am

re: #262 ckkatz

Orbanistan.

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Jay C  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:09:36am

re: #214 Belafon

[Embedded content]

I think what the “conservatives” are missing here (among vast quantities of other stuff), is there there actually IS a “plan to end the war”, and it’s not even particularly “long-term”. It’s just that said plan is for the Ukrainians to utterly kick the Russians’ asses on the battlefield, boot the survivors back across the border, and then get about the business of rebuilding their country* as a member of the EU/NATO/Western World. They won’t like the plan, though, since it’s a curbstomping of their Great Idol Tsar Vlad The Manly, but there we go….

*US aid for which it’s a safe bet most GOPers will vote against, with assholes like Massie probably endlessly tweeting bullshit about .

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:11:25am

re: #264 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“woke” covers everything from n****r through Antifa to (((cosmopolitan))) to BLM & f****t in one convenient, easy-to-spell term.

Have to convince some reactionaries that coffee makes you ‘woke’—more for us.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:12:47am
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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:13:48am

Allegedly a significant Ukrainian success in Zaporizhzhia (no details yet).

273
Belafon  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:14:00am

re: #269 Jay C

I think what the “conservatives” are missing here (among vast quantities of other stuff), is there there actually IS a “plan to end the war”, and it’s not even particularly “long-term”. It’s just that said plan is for the Ukrainians to utterly kick the Russians’ asses on the battlefield, boot the survivors back across the border, and then get about the business of rebuilding their country* as a member of the EU/NATO/Western World. They won’t like the plan, though, since it’s a curbstomping of their Great Idol Tsar Vlad The Manly, but there we go….

*US aid for which it’s a safe bet most GOPers will vote against, with assholes like Massie probably endlessly tweeting bullshit about .

“Why are we sending money to help Ukraine when we can’t even cut taxes on the rich….I mean help people here?” - Massie

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:16:55am

re: #253 Dangerman

NYT modern take:

Ukraine is winning. …how this is bad for Biden.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:17:06am

Not that I bet anything, but there’s 7 days until my original “This will be over by the end of Summer” estimate will come true.

Maybe I should have bet, but that seems morbid when lives are being lost.

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ckkatz  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:19:07am

re: #183 Nyet

Never heard of any of the posters, in #183 or below. But the idea of looking at Google traffic is amusing.

Current Google Traffic of Moscow. (I have no idea whether the traffic densities are normal or not.)

google.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:21:08am

re: #276 ckkatz

It’s currently 8:20 PM in Moscow. I’m no expert, but I’d say the traffic density seems to be a little high for that time on a weeknight.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:21:38am

LOL. The Russian propagandist Krasovsky (openly gay and a former liberal who then began working for RT and got radicalized) and his former opponent Milonov (an über-homophobe before it was fashionable) are finally friends. Because Ukraine.

t.me
t.me

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Mattand  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:23:58am

re: #274 Florida Panhandler

NYT modern take:

Ukraine is winning. …how this is bad for Biden.

“…How This is Bad for Democrats” is to the New York Times as “Headless Body in Topless Bar” is to the New York Daily News.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:26:04am

re: #222 austin_blue

Yes, yes they are.

Craziest motherfucker gets to be Trump’s VP candidate.

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calochortus  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:29:20am

re: #277 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s currently 8:20 PM in Moscow. I’m no expert, but I’d say the traffic density seems to be a little high for that time on a weeknight.

I checked Google Maps for typical traffic and it seems a bit heavy, but not wildly off.
Also, if it were closed, would traffic have heavy and light areas? It would just be closed.

282
Amory Blaine  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:30:03am

Americans are so fucking stupid. No tax money is going to Ukraine. We print our fucking cash to pay for shit. Iraq, unpaid. Afghanistan, unpaid. Shit Vietnam probably isn’t paid for.

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Dangerman  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:30:38am

re: #280 No Malarkey!

Craziest motherfucker gets to be Trump’s VP candidate.

Not irl.
Trump would never pick abbott. He’d never stand next to him.

And Desantis would never play 2 nd fiddle. Plus they hate each other.

284
Shropshire Slasher  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:30:49am

re: #269 Jay C

I think what the “conservatives” are missing here (among vast quantities of other stuff), is there there actually IS a “plan to end the war”, and it’s not even particularly “long-term”. It’s just that said plan is for the Ukrainians to utterly kick the Russians’ asses on the battlefield, boot the survivors back across the border, and then get about the business of rebuilding their country* as a member of the EU/NATO/Western World. They won’t like the plan, though, since it’s a curbstomping of their Great Idol Tsar Vlad The Manly, but there we go….

*US aid for which it’s a safe bet most GOPers will vote against, with assholes like Massie probably endlessly tweeting bullshit about .

When the Ukraine war began, we were all experts and thought it wouldn’t last two weeks. Now that the Russians are getting their asses handed to them, what is stopping the Ukrainians stopping at the border? Will they retake Crimea?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:31:09am

re: #236 Dangerman

I have not talked to a single person asking to send more billions to Ukraine.

Not one.

pull your head out of your ass and you might find some

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:31:30am

re: #281 calochortus

One doesn’t even need to check traffic. If anything like that happened in Moscow, we wouldn’t have a single guy claiming something on twitter. It would be at least all over the Russian twitter (with splashes into the English one), if not already on the news.

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Dangerman  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:31:41am

re: #282 Amory Blaine

Americans are so fucking stupid. No tax money is going to Ukraine. We print our fucking cash to pay for shit. Iraq, unpaid. Afghanistan, unpaid. Shit Vietnam probably isn’t paid for.

Precisely

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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:32:25am

re: #254 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They kept many German prisoners until 1956…

And only 5000 of the 91000 captured at Stalingrad survived to go home.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:33:04am

re: #246 Eclectic Cyborg

Well if there are no windows around, you gotta improvise.

/

“He was attempting to lower anchor but accidentally wrapped it around his own neck”

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:34:02am
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Dopamine Fish  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:35:28am

re: #290 jaunte

Matt Gaetz and Roy Moore must’ve consulted on the draft legislation.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:35:33am

re: #288 William Lewis

And only 5000 of the 91000 captured at Stalingrad survived to go home.

Given their physical state at the time of capture, no wonder.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:36:44am

re: #284 Shropshire Slasher

When the Ukraine war began, we were all experts and thought it wouldn’t last two weeks. Now that the Russians are getting their asses handed to them, what is stopping the Ukrainians stopping at the border? Will they retake Crimea?

I don’t see why the Ukrainians shouldn’t take back their entire country. I doubt the Russians will be able to stop them.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:37:30am

re: #292 Nyet

Given their physical state at the time of capture, no wonder.

IIRC, a cholera epidemic swept through the camp(s) they were held in - not to mention various disease outbreaks and not the best of treatment during their captivity.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:38:11am

re: #293 No Malarkey!

I don’t see why the Ukrainians shouldn’t take back their entire country. I doubt the Russians will be able to stop them.

I also don’t see why they shouldn’t take Belgorod etc. as their “border stripe of safety”. It’s not like Russia hasn’t lost all moral right to sovereignity and unity…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:39:16am

re: #290 jaunte

So young girls who get raped by their fathers/uncles have to turn in their own family members before they can get an abortion?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:39:43am

re: #292 Nyet

Given their physical state at the time of capture, no wonder.

A lot of them were simply worked to death.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:39:48am

re: #290 jaunte

And given that a shit ton of rapes go unreported…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:40:28am

re: #297 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A lot of them were simply worked to death.

“Work sets you free.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:41:05am

re: #226 Shropshire Slasher

I hate how in many of these videos, the actual point of impact is never in frame.

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EPR-radar  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:42:26am

re: #298 Eclectic Cyborg

And given that a shit ton of rapes go unreported…

Feature, not a bug, for Republicans.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:42:50am

re: #298 Eclectic Cyborg

And given that a shit ton of rapes go unreported…

By definition, anyone under the age of consent who is pregnant should be treated as a rape victim

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Captain Ron  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:43:16am

re: #240 dat_said

[Embedded content]

Fell. Off his yacht.

No windows on the fly bridge.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:43:33am

re: #283 Dangerman

I can see DeSantis taking VP, only to turn on trump to get him removed so he gets to be President.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2022 • 10:44:13am

re: #297 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A lot of them were simply worked to death.

Some probably were. There was a lot of work to be done after everything they destroyed.


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