In Memoriam: David Crosby & the Lighthouse Band, Tiny Desk Concert 2019

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Never met David Crosby, but several musician friends worked with him over the years and I never heard anything but praise from them. He was a huge early influence, and he was continuing to make interesting and challenging music to the very end. You rocked, David.

Watch David Crosby & The Lighthouse Band play “What Are Their Names”, “Looks In Their Eyes”, “Other Half Rule” and “Woodstock” at the Tiny Desk.

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Aug. 7, 2019 | Colin Marshall — Moments before the first note at the Tiny Desk, David Crosby needed the mics rearranged: He asked that his microphone be positioned evenly with the rest of his bandmates, rather than in front of them, explaining that while his name is the one on the marquee, The Lighthouse Band has no hierarchy.

That band is an inter-generational ensemble, featuring Snarky Puppy bandleader and bassist Michael League, as well as guitarist Becca Stevens and keyboardist Michelle Willis, both accomplished singers and songwriters in their own right. They all first came together while the members were collaboratively writing and recording for Crosby’s 2016 album Lighthouse. Everybody sings in this band, trading lead vocals for harmonies and vice-versa in just about every combination.

If you follow him on Twitter, you know that Crosby hasn’t abandoned the political poetics that once helped buttress the movement in the ’60s and ’70s, referencing the shifting cultural sands with lines like, “It’s time to turn the tide / Boys, sit back and let the other half drive.” Connecting the present to the past, the quartet also brought along a rearrangement of Joni Mitchell’s “Woodstock” from a version Crosby recorded almost 50 years ago with Stephen Stills, Graham Nash and Neil Young on Déjà Vu. (It’s also the final track on The Lighthouse Band’s 2018 album, Here If You Listen.)

SET LIST
“What Are Their Names”
“Looks In Their Eyes”
“Other Half Rule”
“Woodstock”

MUSICIANS
David Crosby: vocals; Michael League: guitar, vocals; Becca Stevens: vocals, guitar; Michelle Willis: keys, vocals

CREDITS
Producers: Colin Marshall, Kaylee Domzalski; Creative Director: Bob Boilen; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Morgan Noelle Smith, Kaylee Domzalski, Kara Frame; Associate Producer: Bobby Carter; Production Assistant: Paul Georgoulis; Photo: Cameron Pollack/NPR

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1
Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 19, 2023 • 5:43:46pm
2
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 19, 2023 • 5:44:03pm

Florida being Florida.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 19, 2023 • 5:47:15pm

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Florida being Florida.

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What? No DeSadist for President sticker in that bag?

I’m shocked, I tell you! Shocked!

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jan 19, 2023 • 5:48:07pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 19, 2023 • 5:49:56pm

re: #3 Joe Bacon

What? No DeSadist for President sticker in that bag?

I’m shocked, I tell you! Shocked!

I was mistaken. That was in Saskatoon.

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Captain Ron  Jan 19, 2023 • 5:50:25pm

Well, my video card can no longer keep up with other Folding@Home leaders. I got to 1170th place and am now going backward. I’ll never make the top 1000 list, time to quit.

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jan 19, 2023 • 5:51:07pm

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Florida being Florida.

I fear that this kind of overt antisemitism is going to become almost mainstream amongst conservatives.

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EPR-radar  Jan 19, 2023 • 5:52:39pm

re: #7 The GOP is a racist terrorist organization

I fear that this kind of overt antisemitism is going to become almost mainstream amongst conservatives.

IMO it’s a certainty. The only question is how fast this shit will become “generic Republican” (if it isn’t already that).

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Captain Ron  Jan 19, 2023 • 5:53:04pm

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Florida being Florida.

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That was in Saskatoon I think.

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Captain Ron  Jan 19, 2023 • 5:54:28pm

Note to self: Catch up then comment.

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darthstar  Jan 19, 2023 • 5:56:50pm

Fare thee well, Fare thee well,
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the music and sing sweet songs
To rock my soul.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2023 • 5:57:41pm
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darthstar  Jan 19, 2023 • 5:58:06pm

Anderson Cooper opened his show tonight with a good long segment on the Croz. Watch the replay at 9pm PST if you missed it. MSNBC was flogging George Santos’ dick. I don’t know what Fox was doing.

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jan 19, 2023 • 5:58:06pm

re: #8 EPR-radar

IMO it’s a certainty. The only question is how fast this shit will become “generic Republican” (if it isn’t already that).

I mean, I don’t know if they’ll indulge in this kind of “goyim” talk, but they will start saying things like, “not all Jews are globalists, but all globalists are Jews.”

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TarHellion  Jan 19, 2023 • 5:58:19pm

You could really tell that when David Crosby faced and faced up to his challenges, that he was a well-regarded person. He seems to have been a really chill dude. And what a life he had!

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Joe Bacon  Jan 19, 2023 • 5:58:45pm

re: #5 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I was mistaken. That was in Saskatoon.

in that case I wonder why there’s nothing from the goofball that calls herself the Queen of Canada!

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darthstar  Jan 19, 2023 • 5:58:57pm

I just posted this on facebook a few minutes ago…

We went to see David Crosby at the Fox Theater in Redwood city right before Covid. Good times.

First time I saw him was when I was in college and working at the bar at the Hilton in Sacramento. I asked the girl who ran the Hertz counter to go to Tahoe to see Crosby and Nash play at the Sahara Tahoe…she got us a Lincoln Town Car for the drive…man that thing floated like a barge. Anyway, David had just gotten out of prison for drug/weapons charges, and said the show was to celebrate he and Graham being out of jail at the same time. Stephen Stills was unavailable.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:00:18pm

WTSP-TV, Tampa, Fla. (3:00)

Lakeland PD pulls 3 officers off street; community activists demand criminal charges

Activists are calling for criminal charges against three Lakeland police officers for abuse of Black members of the community, captured on video.

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EstebanTornado1963  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:00:40pm
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Joe Bacon  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:00:54pm

re: #15 TarHellion

You could really tell that when David Crosby faced and faced up to his challenges, that he was a well-regarded person. He seems to have been a really chill dude. And what a life he had!

You could say the same about his Dad, cinematographer Floyd Crosby.

tcm.com

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TarHellion  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:01:32pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Some people just want to watch the world burn

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Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:01:49pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:03:58pm

re: #72 Joe Bacon

Dad used to show his contempt for Nixon’s “Holy Four Farts” of Rabbi Baruch Korff, Father John McLaughlin, Rev. Moon and Billy Graham Cracker.

Oh and Nixon DID have a cult of personality. He just didn’t have a Fox News to kiss his ass and whiff his farts. But he did inspire that fat fuck Roger Ailes to set up FAUX.

And his communications director went on to form FOX News Channel, to ensure a GOP president could never be ousted again.

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TarHellion  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:07:03pm

re: #20 Joe Bacon

Wow, did not know that! I was a tad too young for The Byrds and CSNY era, though I certainly have enjoyed the music. I remember him being the surrogate for Melissa Etheridge that had its own tragic end. Just sad that we will be seeing more of this over the next 5-10 years - except for Keith. He will live to be 300.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:08:01pm

Chrome browser crashed hard yesterday. I had to restart it a couple of times as it kept crashing. I also noticed that all my usual websites required me to login again.

Don’t know what happened. Today VLC refused to quit and I could not Force Quit it either, so I decided it was time to restart my iMac. I don’t do that often.

It restarted fine… but I notice I gained 10GB on the drive that is my boot drive.

I wonder what I lost. Sure, there are caches but I believe the last time I rebooted the iMac I had about 8GB less on the boot disk. And since that time I had added quite a few files.

Does anyone know if deep inside OSX there is a way to compare a current system with the last backup to Time Machine? I don’t think the old UNIX file system compare can work as the backup database in Time Machine is some fancy compression.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:10:33pm

re: #25 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

osxdaily.com

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:11:35pm

re: #26 Joe Bacon

Thanks.

I found the tmulti command and am running it now. Looks like it’s going to take all night…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:13:09pm

LOL

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Joe Bacon  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:13:39pm

re: #24 TarHellion

Wow, did not know that! I was a tad too young for The Byrds and CSNY era, though I certainly have enjoyed the music. I remember him being the surrogate for Melissa Etheridge that had its own tragic end. Just sad that we will being more of this over the next 5-10 years - except for Keith. He will live to be 300.

Article about the Roger Corman/Floyd Crosby partnership with some guy named Vincent Price…

theasc.com

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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:16:01pm

re: #19 EstebanTornado1963

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:16:27pm

Here’s a picture of me skiing at Monarch Mountain last month during one of the demo days I’ve helped put on.

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TarHellion  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:17:23pm

re: #29 Joe Bacon

Great read! And certainly one of Vincent’s best.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:19:54pm

SCATHING.

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TarHellion  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:23:36pm

Just still wonder what the end game is for the GOP. Martial law? Hunger Games? Zardoz? Holy Grail where we just bring out our dead? Comical, yes, but also utterly terrifying.

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Captain Ron  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:26:25pm

Casio is the better watch and it doesn’t grift your money.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:29:23pm

re: #34 TarHellion

The existential crises (what I reckon as the worldview collapse of many Americans) usually end in some emotionally spent state: depression for example.

That there is a major political party whose deep pocket funders have decided to exploit these emotional crises of so many Americans is something to behold.

It’s all about money for the deep pockets, and it’s all about identity crises for the masses.

Ignorance is no excuse. These days the availability of tools to research just about anything is at one’s fingertips.

What I expect to happen: slow rolling failures. If you think the scarcity of eggs and milk and whatnot today is inconvenient, just wait until the GOP destroys the economy by restricting the flow of the money supply (i.e., cut the budget.)

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:30:12pm
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Belafon  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:33:22pm

re: #34 TarHellion

m.dailykos.com is an interesting diary basically arguing that the wealthy didn’t like the growing middle class in the 50s and 60s being able to participate in democracy and have done everything they can to subvert it since.

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wrenchwench  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:34:14pm

re: #31 teleskiguy

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Your ability to show the product in use must be worth a LOT.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:35:09pm

re: #36 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We had a good example of that the prior winter in TX, when the power grid went down.

That happened because of the prideful stupidity of the right wing Texas political machine.

Hopefully the GOP will be in control of the House for only two years, and sanity will return in 2024.

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TarHellion  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:36:32pm

Saw this photo plenty in the Lutheran churches that the family attended in my youth. Now I learn the truth.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:37:04pm

re: #37 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:38:12pm

Christians and Muslims aren’t the only religious fruitcakes.

Police, haredim clash amid non-kosher phone riot in Jerusalem (Jerusalem Post, January 17, 2023)

What began as a demonstration quickly descended into chaos as rioters attempted to damage the cellphone store and attacked police officers.

A “kosher phone” is a cell phone with Internet service disabled.

Israel Police clashed with haredi rioters in Jerusalem Monday evening after a disturbance broke out due to opposition to the sale of non-kosher cellphones at a store inside a haredi neighborhood.

The protest was at first allowed to take place by police, but what started out as a demonstration soon descended into a riot in an attempt to damage the cellphone store.

According to the police, the haredi protesters were also making “cynical” use of small children in the front lines of the protest to block traffic as they stormed onto the road illegally.

Protesters also threw various items, with one damaging a passing bus.

(more)

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:39:57pm

Something I learned from #lawtwitter:

”’[T]ampering with the administration of justice … involves far more than an injury to a
single litigant. It is a wrong against the institutions set up to protect and safeguard the public.’”
Chambers v. NASCO, Inc., 501 U.S. 32, 44 (1991) (citation omitted).

When this case is quoted against you, you are having a bad time and you will not do law things today.

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:39:57pm

re: #39 wrenchwench

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:42:15pm

re: #7 The GOP is a racist terrorist organization

I fear that this kind of overt antisemitism is going to become almost mainstream amongst conservatives.

Why are there still Jewish Republicans?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:42:27pm

To tmulti comes back with this:

Added: 65.8M
Removed: 30.3M
Changed: 198.4M

I had done a TimeMachine backup only about 40 minutes before I did the hard reboot, with no substantial file additions or subtractions on my part.

Yet the Finder is reporting my boot disk has over 57Gb available, and before the hard reboot it was something like 48Gb.

I have no idea what went on. Maybe the Finder is just confused?

If 9Gb of cache files changed certainly tmulti would have shown that.

Sigh…

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darthstar  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:42:35pm

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wrenchwench  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:43:03pm

re: #45 teleskiguy

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:43:30pm

re: #47 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Reload for proper quote text.

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:44:23pm

And on the work front, CEO is going skiing in Japan, he leaves tomorrow. So it’s me and Jace running the company for a little while. *gulp*

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:46:10pm

re: #49 wrenchwench

I’ve skied on the bindings for almost 20 years, I swear by its design and rugged construction. Yes.

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EPR-radar  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:47:39pm

re: #46 The Pie Overlord!

Why are there still Jewish Republicans?

The same reason that some Nazis were Jews.

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wrenchwench  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:47:59pm

re: #51 teleskiguy

And on the work front, CEO is going skiing in Japan, he leaves tomorrow. So it’s me and Jace running the company for a little while. *gulp*

I talked to a retired bike shop owner who told he would pay a manager more than he made himself so he could take time off.

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Dangerman  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:50:23pm

re: #10 Captain Ron

Note to self: Catch up then comment.

Never!

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wrenchwench  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:51:17pm

re: #55 Dangerman

Never!

It’s a hatchling thing….

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Joe Bacon  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:51:52pm

DeSadist won’t stop.

DeSantis Makes Alarming Request for Info on Trans College Students

thedailybeast.com

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has requested information on transgender college students from 12 state universities. Officials in the far-right Republican’s office asked for data on the number of students who have been diagnosed with gender dysphoria or who have received treatment in university clinics state-wide, according to a survey the universities reportedly must complete by Feb. 10. School presidents within the Florida College System, which comprises 28 community and state colleges, released a joint statement Thursday aligning with DeSantis and denouncing “woke” diversity. DeSantis has focused on education as a key issue, passing laws that severely strict what can be taught in universities and slamming diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives. The governor has focused on promoting his anti-LGBTQ agenda in the classroom as well, with the infamous “Don’t Say Gay” law and his promotion of far-right school board members. Although it hasn’t been publicized what the DeSantis administration intend to do with the information on trans students, the move brings concerns that he will attempt to defund or scale back health services offered to trans students and faculty.

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TarHellion  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:53:15pm

re: #42 Belafon

I will always remember Alan Greenspan saying we should not focus on paying down the debt and advocating for the W tax cuts. He did this because he wanted another term as Fed Chairman, and what the hell else would he do if there were no US notes to peddle.

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Captain Ron  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:54:34pm

ha ha

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:57:34pm

re: #53 EPR-radar

The same reason that some Nazis were Jews.

Ghetto collaborators who thought that by cooperating they could protect their own families or themselves were not ideological nazis.

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:57:42pm

re: #54 wrenchwench

I talked to a retired bike shop owner who told he would pay a manager more than he made himself so he could take time off.

This is weird, though. We actually make stuff. i dunno
Company has been around 10 years now, and the skis we make are in very high demand.

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TarHellion  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:59:19pm

re: #53 EPR-radar

And the same reason two-term black congressmen allow themselves to be tokens in the Speaker race.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2023 • 6:59:32pm
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Dangerman  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:00:38pm

re: #33 No Malarkey!

SCATHING.

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So that’s what spanked means

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EPR-radar  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:02:12pm

re: #60 The Pie Overlord!

Ghetto collaborators who thought that by cooperating they could protect their own families or themselves were not ideological nazis.

I wasn’t thinking of ghetto collaborators.

Instead, this precursor of the Log Cabin Republicans is more what I had in mind (and I’m sure there are more examples — every oppressed group has its tiny share of deplorable idiots).

en.wikipedia.org

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:02:51pm

re: #57 Joe Bacon

The Presidents are of the 2-yr (and some 4-yr?) college system. The University system is not included.

Said Presidents are clearly just political appointees doing the Governor’s bidding. They are not independent.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:05:38pm

Yesterday’s NightCafe challenge theme was “hands”.

Now, the AI tools are basically terrible with limbs and hands.

And many of the submissions decided to just go with the horrible output of the tools.

I took a different approach:

NightCafe “hands” challenge, my take: palmistry of the future

As usual, I’m not swimming with the crowd as one can see from the current rating.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:06:49pm

re: #67 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I thought it neat that what looks like a palm (plant) ended up on the palm of the hand. Maybe it is too subtle?

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:06:55pm

re: #65 EPR-radar

I wasn’t thinking of ghetto collaborators.

Instead, this precursor of the Log Cabin Republicans is more what I had in mind (and I’m sure there are more examples — every oppressed group has its tiny share of deplorable idiots).

en.wikipedia.org

So you’re referring to the Jews who were like “Er spricht nur wegen die Ostjuden, nicht uns!” (“Hitler is talking about those k***s in Poland, not us!”

NY-Times-reading Jews.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:10:33pm

re: #10 Captain Ron

Note to self: Catch up then comment.

Nah. That ruins the fun of being gently excoriated.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:11:34pm

Oh then there is this SCTV bit…

SCTV - Crosby Stills Nash and Young

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Dangerman  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:14:34pm
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Dangerman  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:18:14pm

JUDGE: “Mr. Trump is a prolific and sophisticated litigant who is repeatedly using the courts to seek revenge on political adversaries. He is the mastermind of strategic abuse of the judicial process.”

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darthstar  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:19:09pm

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:19:48pm

re: #34 TarHellion

Just still wonder what the end game is for the GOP. Martial law? Hunger Games? Zardoz? Holy Grail where we just bring out our dead? Comical, yes, but also utterly terrifying.

Don’t most repubs talk about Marshall law? But I think their end game is a combo of martial law with the hunger games. YMMV.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:21:54pm

The Queen Of Canada Strikes Again!

A Mom Is Losing Her Family Home Thanks to the QAnon Queen of Canada

Court documents show a woman is about to lose her family’s home because she’s refusing to pay the mortgage because of the QAnon influencer’s “royal decree.”

vice.com

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:24:32pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:25:01pm
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ckkatz  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:27:06pm
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ckkatz  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:28:41pm
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EPR-radar  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:31:46pm

re: #79 ckkatz

I hope there’s a follow up letter from Treasury to the GOP House along these lines:

“Since you are too busy to give this matter any of your worthless attention, I’m pleased to inform you that any legislation that purports to set an arbitrary cap on the total US debt is unconstitutional (see 14th amendment). Therefore, we will proceed with taxing and spending in accordance with Congressional appropriations to date, and you may return to your regularly scheduled clown shows.”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:32:48pm

re: #74 darthstar

Anthropomorphic animals are cute in cartoons/movies. They don’t exist in reality. Chickens don’t give a shit about their offspring brunt a quick, follow me around until you learn how to survive.

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darthstar  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:34:22pm

re: #82 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Anthropomorphic animals are cute in cartoons/movies. They don’t exist in reality. Chickens don’t give a shit about their offspring brunt a quick, follow me around until you learn how to survive.

When I watch some children at the supermarket I think of the Rodney Dangerfield line, “Now I know why tigers eat their young…”

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ckkatz  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:40:49pm

Working at Ft Meade implies working at one of our most secret and sensitive intelligence organizations. And, since “method of collection” is a major basis for classification, being associated with some of our most sensitive intelligence.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:43:03pm

Every crackpot has their limit, but Sam Harris doesn’t understand that the IDW hacks are birds of a feather. It’s just some crackpots among the otherwise intellectually sound anti-anti-bigotry movement from his perspective.

Regrets, he has a few.

Sam Harris, the author, neuroscientist, and host of the popular Making Sense podcast, was one of the anti-woke media figures profiled in a much-discussed 2018 New York Times opinion feature on the so-called “Intellectual Dark Web.” He was also the first of that cohort to renounce his “fictitious” membership in the unofficial gaggle, on the grounds that he didn’t want to be associated with some of his erstwhile allies’ COVID vaccine denialism, Trump election fraud lies, and a host of increasingly unhinged conspiracy theory obsessions.

In a conversation with Josh Szeps, released this week on Szeps’ Uncomfortable Conversations podcast, Harris went further still, naming and shaming certain IDW figures for practicing a “new religion of contrarianism and conspiracy thinking.”

While the group had once been united against what Harris calls “the woke mind virus”—which he says has infected institutions like science, academia, and journalism—Harris now says he’s confounded by certain behavior among that squad, such as fellow IDWer Bret Weinstein doing “a hundred episodes of his podcast in a row on the terrors of mRNA vaccines—and the sinister, shadowy cabal of people who have suppressed information about the life-saving power of ivermectin. It’s completely crazy.”

Harris referred to a number of IDWers as “erstwhile smart people” who now say that “the most qualified experts on many questions—whether you’re talking about what wars to fight or what medicines to give your kids—have been captured by sinister influences of power, or such comprehensively bad incentives, that basically everyone you should have been able to trust yesterday is now wrong about very important topics. [But] the outlier voices shrieking in the wilderness are right about all of them, no matter how much they may seem like crackpots.”

Some of his former allies have gone so far through the conspiratorial looking glass, Harris says, that “they’ll start telling you how they were denied a Nobel Prize.”

The Intellectual Dark Web’s Descent Into Paranoia and Trumpism

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wrenchwench  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:44:02pm

re: #79 ckkatz

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Americans must be prepared for an unleashing of destructiveness that will be unfathomable to many.

Can one prepare for the unfathomable?

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ckkatz  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:45:17pm
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Joe Bacon  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:45:24pm

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EPR-radar  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:47:36pm

re: #85 Crush White Nationalism

It’s certainly not perfect, but the scientific method, culture and establishment is the most effective thing known for effectively marginalizing crank thinking to let useful thinking dominate.

In fields of thought where this can’t be done (or isn’t being done) there is almost no progress.

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ckkatz  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:51:10pm

re: #86 wrenchwench

Can one prepare for the unfathomable?

I’ll have to cogitate upon whether it might in fact be fathomed. :)

In truth, I would suspect that attempting for personal gain to break working systems upon which we place our well being, as the GOP’ers are trying to do, does hold the promise of being unpleasant.

I suspect that there would be a lot of pushback. And violence is not a monopoly of the right.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:53:16pm
The report says Planet Fitness relies on beginners and could see high cancellations as a result, but doesn’t make it easy on customers.

The company’s website says the cancellation can not be done online, over the phone, over email or through an app. Instead, customers have to cancel in person or send a letter with the reasons for the cancellation, according to Bear Cave.

Most Planet Fitness gyms require access to checking accounts or debit cards, a move that is done to prevent credit card disputes, according to the report.

The report lays out many complaints over the years and investigations into the practice. Bear Cave also cites a F rating for Planet Fitness from the Better Business Bureau and a 1.3 star rating out of 5 stars on Google reviews.

Another issue raised by the report is the allegation that Planet Fitness “created a fake investor presentation slide to obscure franchisee saturation.”

The report said that in many markets, the Planet Fitness locations are saturated. A map from the company’s investor presentation shows dots of locations spaced out in states, a move that could be done to show room for unit growth to excite investors.

“The Bear Cave finds it concerning that Planet Fitness appears to have simply faked its gym location slide in its most recent investor presentation.”

The report said market saturation could be important for franchisors and investors.

“After reviewing the evidence, The Bear Cave is left wondering whether Planet Fitness is actually a thriving gym franchise or an illegal billing operation with gyms on the side.”

Planet Fitness ‘An Illegal Billing Operation With Gyms On The Side’: Short Seller (Benzinga)

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Joe Bacon  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:55:12pm

re: #91 Crush White Nationalism

I’ve had friends say the same about Crunch Fitness.

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Mattand  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:55:29pm

re: #85 Crush White Nationalism

Every crackpot has their limit, but Sam Harris doesn’t understand that the IDW hacks are birds of a feather. It’s just some crackpots among the otherwise intellectually sound anti-anti-bigotry movement from his perspective.

The Intellectual Dark Web’s Descent Into Paranoia and Trumpism

While the group had once been united against what Harris calls “the woke mind virus”—which he says has infected institutions like science, academia, and journalism—Harris now says he’s confounded by certain behavior among that squad,such as fellow IDWer Bret Weinstein doing “a hundred episodes of his podcast in a row on the terrors of mRNA vaccines—and the sinister, shadowy cabal of people who have suppressed information about the life-saving power of ivermectin. It’s completely crazy.”

LOL, Sam Harris-to-English translation: “I’m still clinging to stupid conservative talking points but refuse to believe that the behavior of my fellow IDW idiots is really where this line thinking eventually ends up.”

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:55:48pm

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:58:29pm

re: #57 Joe Bacon

The proper response for this request is, “Fuck off and die!”

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Mattand  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:59:01pm

re: #91 Crush White Nationalism

Planet Fitness ‘An Illegal Billing Operation With Gyms On The Side’: Short Seller (Benzinga)

So here’s the deal: both the my partner and I quit Planet Fitness recently. According to their ToS, you need to do it within 10 days of your next billing cycle or you get charged another month.

I was blissfully unaware of this when I quit. However, it must have been before the 10 day window. I walked in, said “I’m out”, they scanned my QR code, and I was on my way. No fuss, no drama.

My partner did it the day before the billing cycle and got dinged the $10. She groused at the counter, but then went home and looked up the ToS.

Other than that, it was pretty painless.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 19, 2023 • 7:59:17pm

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:02:02pm

re: #57 Joe Bacon

DeSadist won’t stop.

DeSantis Makes Alarming Request for Info on Trans College Students

thedailybeast.com

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has requested information on transgender college students from 12 state universities. Officials in the far-right Republican’s office asked for data on the number of students who have been diagnosed with gender dysphoria or who have received treatment in university clinics state-wide, according to a survey the universities reportedly must complete by Feb. 10. School presidents within the Florida College System, which comprises 28 community and state colleges, released a joint statement Thursday aligning with DeSantis and denouncing “woke” diversity. DeSantis has focused on education as a key issue, passing laws that severely strict what can be taught in universities and slamming diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives. The governor has focused on promoting his anti-LGBTQ agenda in the classroom as well, with the infamous “Don’t Say Gay” law and his promotion of far-right school board members. Although it hasn’t been publicized what the DeSantis administration intend to do with the information on trans students, the move brings concerns that he will attempt to defund or scale back health services offered to trans students and faculty.

Oh, look! An actual HIPAA violation.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:05:05pm

Oh look, it’s raining again.

This one should be short and quick, though.

Cold air mass will drop the temps tonight, and those of you in the backcountry of NV will get some snow.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:05:15pm

re: #84 ckkatz

Working at Ft Meade implies working at one of our most secret and sensitive intelligence organizations. And, since “method of collection” is a major basis for classification, being associated with some of our most sensitive intelligence.

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It appears that they were left in their sensitive positions for a long time before being arrested.

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ckkatz  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:05:36pm

From Wednesday.

The logo on the ‘kepa’ is a modified Pittsburgh Steelers/US Steel logo.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:08:59pm

So to train myself on how to use these AI image tools I’m doing a large study on one topic (temples).

As I go about this task I am thinking more and more that these AI tools may be good for making images that could stimulate the writing of stories.

To whit: in regards to the following image, write a short short story (a paragraph) that flows from the image.

Exotic, fancy temple interior
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ckkatz  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:11:14pm

re: #100 Crush White Nationalism

It appears that they were left in their sensitive positions for a long time before being arrested.

It’s possible.

But the Intel community takes this stuff very seriously. And enforces it very seriously. This is not a career area one should choose if one likes to test boundaries, play games, or “F@ck Around”.

If the command structure had any inkling that these folks were suspected of anything, they would be moved to a “deadwood” branch.

Folks in their organizations are seriously and deeply investigated and are expected to commit to very significant lifestyle boundaries before they are permitted to work where they presumably were working.

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garzooma  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:16:50pm

re: #96 Mattand

So here’s the deal: both the my partner and I quit Planet Fitness recently. According to their ToS, you need to do it within 10 days of your next billing cycle or you get charged another month.

I was blissfully unaware of this when I quit. However, it must have been before the 10 day window. I walked in, said “I’m out”, they scanned my QR code, and I was on my way. No fuss, no drama.

My partner did it the day before the billing cycle and got dinged the $10. She groused at the counter, but then went home and looked up the ToS.

Other than that, it was pretty painless.

I had a job with a significant commute, and joined a nearby Planet Fitness so I could work out while waiting for the rush hour to end. When I lost the job, I looked into canceling, and found that I had to cancel at the same distant Planet Fitness. I wasn’t terribly happy about needing to make a special trip.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:19:28pm

re: #84 ckkatz

Working at Ft Meade implies working at one of our most secret and sensitive intelligence organizations. And, since “method of collection” is a major basis for classification, being associated with some of our most sensitive intelligence.

Yeah, Ft Meade is NSA’s home.

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darthstar  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:22:28pm

re: #57 Joe Bacon

I work with one non-binary engineer. Yesterday I had them and a few other people on a Zoom call I set up to understand their testing needs and how my team could help ( we provide automation testing platform, tools and best practices as well as a template for migrating other teams to cloud based execution) and at the end of the meeting said, “Thank you, gentlemen, for your time.” Right as I ended the meeting I could see on their face a slight cringe.

About 20 minutes later I said, “Fuck it” and slacked them, “sorry about the pronoun reference at the end of the call”…and they responded with appreciation and an explanation of being ‘them’ as a preference and ‘him’ if there’s no other choice given the environment (we work in a Bank…they were hired by a progressive management team that is no longer with us).

So going forward I will replace ‘gentlemen’ with ‘everybody’…it literally costs me nothing to be considerate.

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KingKenrod  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:30:01pm

re: #93 Mattand

LOL, Sam Harris-to-English translation: “I’m still clinging to stupid conservative talking points but refuse to believe that the behavior of my fellow IDW idiots really where this line thinking eventually ends up.”

For years, Harris’s big problem has been Islamophobia, which led him to join with the right wing on numerous issues, like immigration and anti-wokeism. His anti-wokeism led him to make horrible decisions, like platforming Charles Murray.

I heard Harris say a couple of years ago that he didn’t consider the Christian right wing much of a threat (as compared to Islam) because they don’t use violence like Islamists do - an absurd opinion that really shows his blind spot. As if Christians don’t use violence; and as if violence is the chief weapon when fighting a culture war.

I’d like to start listening to his podcast again - sometimes he seems like a reasonable guy with interesting insights - but he still has a long way to go.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:32:59pm
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darthstar  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:33:40pm

re: #108 No Malarkey!

Hazel likes a little Chompy every now and then.

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darthstar  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:34:14pm

re: #109 darthstar

Hazel likes a little Chompy every now and then.

Oh…did I say that out loud. Tres Generaciones FTW.

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ckkatz  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:35:27pm

re: #105 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Yeah, Ft Meade is NSA’s home.

That is certainly the big one there.

It has been amusing to watch as Federal Government policy evolved from not commenting on the presence of NSA at Ft Meade or even the existence of “No Such Agency” (NSA -> National Security Agency) to putting up The National Cryptology Museum near the entrance.

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:37:27pm

Friend of mine took this picture today in Steamboat, CO.

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ckkatz  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:40:25pm

re: #112 teleskiguy

Cool picture!

Meanwhile, down here in Virginia, I think that we saw snow flurries for a few minutes, once.

I am trying to figure out what was done to cut that trail.

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darthstar  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:40:58pm

re: #112 teleskiguy

Friend of mine took this picture today in Steamboat, CO.

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My friend Randy got his pic taken for Unofficial Alpine this morning dropping into SP bowl off the High Traverse.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:41:19pm

re: #113 ckkatz

Cool picture!

Meanwhile, down here in Virginia, I think that we saw snow flurries for a few minutes, once.

I am trying to figure out what was done to cut that trail.

Looks like cross-country skis made that track

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:44:38pm

re: #111 ckkatz

That is certainly the big one there.

It has been amusing to watch as Federal Government policy evolved from not commenting on the presence of NSA at Ft Meade or even the existence of “No Such Agency” (NSA -> National Security Agency) to putting up The National Cryptology Museum near the entrance.

So,

My father worked for NSA before it was NSA. He was recruited from Northwestern (he was a mathematician) in1949 and moved from the Midwest to MD IN 1950 — ended up as cheif of the mathematics and cryptology section. During the early ’70s, I was told to only say that he worked for the government. By the late 70s, that restricting had been relaxed, but don’t don’t advertise that he worked there.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:45:02pm

re: #92 Joe Bacon

I’ve had friends say the same about Crunch Fitness.

We only have one Planet Fitness in Rockwall, and it’s generally busy. I did walk in and cancel, and they did it without questioning why.

It was harder actually to cancel my Anytime Fitness membership.

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Mattand  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:45:22pm

re: #108 No Malarkey!

The fact this beaver is not named “Chompy McChompface” points to failure at every level of this program.

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wrenchwench  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:46:34pm

re: #107 KingKenrod

For years, Harris’s big problem has been Islamophobia, which led him to join with the right wing on numerous issues, like immigration and anti-wokeism. His anti-wokeism led him to make horrible decisions, like platforming Charles Murray.

I heard Harris say a couple of years ago that he didn’t consider the Christian right wing much of a threat (as compared to Islam) because they don’t use violence like Islamists do - an absurd opinion that really shows his blind spot. As if Christians don’t use violence; and as if violence is the chief weapon when fighting a culture war.

I’d like to start listening to his podcast again - sometimes he seems like a reasonable guy with interesting insights - but he still has a long way to go.

Seems like intelligence has its limits, but stupidity can grow and diversify with ease.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:46:51pm

re: #107 KingKenrod

For years, Harris’s big problem has been Islamophobia, which led him to join with the right wing on numerous issues, like immigration and anti-wokeism. His anti-wokeism led him to make horrible decisions, like platforming Charles Murray.

I heard Harris say a couple of years ago that he didn’t consider the Christian right wing much of a threat (as compared to Islam) because they don’t use violence like Islamists do - an absurd opinion that really shows his blind spot. As if Christians don’t use violence; and as if violence is the chief weapon when fighting a culture war.

I’d like to start listening to his podcast again - sometimes he seems like a reasonable guy with interesting insights - but he still has a long way to go.

Christians don’t use violence, they lie every time they set a women’s clinic alight, shoot a doctor, blow up a federal building, or shoot up an Olympic park.

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:47:01pm

re: #115 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Telemark skis.

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wrenchwench  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:47:11pm

re: #118 Mattand

The fact this beaver is not named “Chompy McChompface” points to failure at every level of this program.

Dam it.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:47:31pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:50:58pm

re: #123 Belafon

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Fuck it. Just go back to commodities, and hand those people a box full of what you think they should have.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:55:43pm

re: #124 wrenchwench

Fuck it. Just go back to commodities, and hand those people a box full of what you think they should have.

Eventually, from Iowa Republicans: you aren’t allowed to buy bread, you must grind your own flour and grow your own yeast.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:56:43pm

Anyone know what kind of dog this is and about how big and adult one would be? It’s supposedly 8 months:

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wrenchwench  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:58:10pm

re: #125 Belafon

Eventually, from Iowa Republicans: you aren’t allowed to buy bread, you must grind your own flour and grow your own yeast.

And no canned beans, just bags. I wonder whether WalMart and Kroger can show some support for SNAP and EBT cards.

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piratedan  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:58:37pm

re: #126 Belafon

I believe the official classification is “good”.

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:59:19pm

re: #121 teleskiguy

Well, upon closer inspection, oaktree is right. Xcountry skis.

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2023 • 8:59:56pm

Rabbit Ears Pass.

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ckkatz  Jan 19, 2023 • 9:04:54pm

re: #116 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Yup, getting attention was usually a bad thing. But there were, and I have no doubt still are, some amazing and brilliant people working there. Occasionally small glimpses of their capabilities are shown to the public.

The ability to track, video, and identify folks on the St Petersburg, Russia troll farm was an example. That one of the management team was convinced to defect was icing.

(Which reminds me, folks may want to keep some masking tape over their computer cameras when they aren’t being used. The ability to access remote computer cameras is no longer just a nation-state-related capability these days.)

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A Cranky One  Jan 19, 2023 • 9:05:06pm

re: #126 Belafon

It’s a good dog!

At 8 months and based on the paw sizes, I suspect it won’t get much bigger.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2023 • 9:05:29pm
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Belafon  Jan 19, 2023 • 9:07:07pm

re: #128 piratedan

I believe the official classification is “good”.

We’re trying to find a companion dog for my 14.5 year old chiweenie. I can’t have a really feisty dog and we’re not a big dog family.

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ckkatz  Jan 19, 2023 • 9:07:50pm

re: #115 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

re: #129 teleskiguy

Thanks!

Even though I grew up in Pittsburgh, I know absolutely diddly about any form of skiing.

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Captain Ron  Jan 19, 2023 • 9:07:54pm

re: #126 Belafon

Anyone know what kind of dog this is and about how big and adult one would be? It’s supposedly 8 months:

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Pitbull mix and will get-70% larger.

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ckkatz  Jan 19, 2023 • 9:18:45pm

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A Cranky One  Jan 19, 2023 • 9:21:15pm

re: #136 Captain Ron

I’d guess American Stafford Terrier.

They are good dogs. Affectionate and protecting. So so with other dogs but great with kids.

Grow to about 17-19 inches and average weight 50-60 lbs.

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2023 • 9:27:31pm

re: #123 Belafon

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I started to sort of nod along to the bread and beans bit…and then hit “canned meat” and was like “WTF?!” You can’t even argue that that has anything to do with nutrition, because canned meats tend to be loaded with sodium and other preservatives. It would be quicker to just write “We hate black people” at the top and be done with it.

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A Cranky One  Jan 19, 2023 • 9:29:09pm

re: #138 A Cranky One
American Stafford Terrier

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 19, 2023 • 9:34:46pm

re: #46 The Pie Overlord!

Why are there still Jewish Republicans?

There are Jews who are racist, who demonize George Soros, and who are true believers in supply side economics. Why are so many Orthodox Jews supportive of Trump? Of course, it’s not just Orthodox Jews; my RW FB “friend” who’s a devoted Trumpster belonged to my Reform congregation until she quit because the cantor as well as most of the congregants did not share her views. Let’s look at Ben Shapiro, Stephen Miller, and Michael Levin.

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wrenchwench  Jan 19, 2023 • 9:35:21pm
Tonight
Patchy fog before 4am, then patchy fog after 5am.

What about between 4am and 5am? Are they just going to leave us hanging?

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Captain Ron  Jan 19, 2023 • 9:37:30pm

re: #142 wrenchwench

What about between 4am and 5am? Are they just going to leave us hanging?

Semi-patchy fog?

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wrenchwench  Jan 19, 2023 • 9:39:12pm

re: #143 Captain Ron

Semi-patchy fog?

Maybe that’s the patch, 4 to 5. The rest is fog. To me at least.

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2023 • 9:41:38pm

re: #135 ckkatz

Shit was wild 12 some odd years ago. Ski companies were selling big wide planks, water skis. I own a pair, they look like this.

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Captain Ron  Jan 19, 2023 • 9:43:53pm

re: #144 wrenchwench

we don’t really get fog here much anymore. I remember in the 60-70s it would get so thick you could get lost between the white dashes in the road. Now you can drive at least 40 MPH in the fog.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jan 19, 2023 • 9:49:45pm

Tomorrow no, Wordle yes. Sometimes the day just gets away on you.

Just simple bad luck. No complaints, no excuses.

Wordle 580 5/6

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SibData: 3,3,4,5,5

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2023 • 9:55:44pm

re: #4 The GOP is a racist terrorist organization

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At usual, it’s difficult to tell if Tucker is telling half-truths or outright lies as he doesn’t cite his source. But based upon Gallup polling, Nixon’s approval ratings were middling at best, with only Truman, Ford, and Carter coming out worse. JFK was the most popular president of the past 80 years, with Eisenhower and Bush Sr rounding out the top three.

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wrenchwench  Jan 19, 2023 • 10:01:37pm

re: #147 Grunthos the Flatulent

Tomorrow no, Wordle yes. Sometimes the day just gets away on you.

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You made a nice picture.

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JC1  Jan 19, 2023 • 10:04:52pm

First 2 in a while.

Wordle 580 2/6

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2023 • 10:05:08pm

re: #42 Belafon

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Which is why it’s such a mystery that the Dems had weeks to either pass a clean debt ceiling hike or even abolish it altogether, and instead they left it sitting there to blow up in all our faces.

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2023 • 10:06:04pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2023 • 10:12:48pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2023 • 10:17:14pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2023 • 10:22:21pm
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mmmirele  Jan 19, 2023 • 10:26:53pm

re: #28 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

LOL

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Beth Moore gets so much sh*t from people. She criticized Jonathan Edwards for owning slaves—there are a couple new YT videos attacking her for that. Another YT video out Thursday calls her a “wicked woman.” It’s really amazing how much hate there is for her, when she’s just a very middle of the road Bible teacher. She doesn’t tell her (female) listeners and readers anything that might upset them. But she’s hated because she’s a woman and she *teaches,* which is a terrible sin.

That said, it’s not like she went very far from the Southern Baptist Convention when she decided a couple years ago she’d had enough. She went to the fake Anglicans (ACNA), an organization that started in large part because they can’t stand LGBTQIA people, which has its own sexual abuse scandals. So she still has issues with LGBTQIA people, which is unfortunate.

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ckkatz  Jan 19, 2023 • 10:28:37pm

re: #151 Targetpractice

Which is why it’s such a mystery that the Dems had weeks to either pass a clean debt ceiling hike or even abolish it altogether, and instead they left it sitting there to blow up in all our faces.

I think that the Democratic leadership gamed it out and concluded that they didn’t have the votes nor the time needed to get that through both houses

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Captain Ron  Jan 19, 2023 • 10:31:50pm

Damn it, I’m all Gumby. I put some THC concentrate in my bowl of cannabis flower.

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wrenchwench  Jan 19, 2023 • 10:33:19pm

re: #158 Captain Ron

Damn it, I’m all Gumby. I put some THC concentrate in my bowl of cannabis flower.

That’s like a belt AND suspenders, but the opposite.

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sagehen  Jan 19, 2023 • 10:34:05pm

re: #141 Hecuba’s daughter

There are Jews who are racist, who demonize George Soros, and who are true believers in supply side economics. Why are so many Orthodox Jews supportive of Trump? Of course, it’s not just Orthodox Jews; my RW FB “friend” who’s a devoted Trumpster belonged to my Reform congregation until she quit because the cantor as well as most of the congregants did not share her views. Let’s look at Ben Shapiro, Stephen Miller, and Michael Levin.

My sister is a Jewish RWNJ… she supports Republicans mostly because she adores Netanyahu. (she’s also a huge fan of Chaya Raichick, and Andy Ngo. She’s absolutely terrified of Antifa. She thinks they’re an enormous, nationally active organization, the biggest threat to everyone’s safety, bigger and stronger than Oath Keepers and Proud Boys.)

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2023 • 10:34:14pm
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A Cranky One  Jan 19, 2023 • 10:34:47pm

re: #158 Captain Ron

Damn it, I’m all Gumby. I put some THC concentrate in my bowl of cannabis flower.

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sagehen  Jan 19, 2023 • 10:36:56pm

re: #148 Targetpractice

At usual, it’s difficult to tell if Tucker is telling half-truths or outright lies as he doesn’t cite his source. But based upon Gallup polling, Nixon’s approval ratings were middling at best, with only Truman, Ford, and Carter coming out worse. JFK was the most popular president of the past 80 years, with Eisenhower and Bush Sr rounding out the top three.

Nixon won by a landslide in ‘72; the last month or two before his resignation he was down to about 25% approval.

When the Senators came to ask him to resign, he asked “can I beat an impeachment? How many votes do I have?” Goldwater told him “maybe a dozen. And I’m not one of them.”

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2023 • 10:37:15pm

Music sharing has come a long way since the days of Napster in 1999.

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Captain Ron  Jan 19, 2023 • 10:37:58pm
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Captain Ron  Jan 19, 2023 • 10:44:59pm

re: #164 teleskiguy

Music sharing has come a long way since the days of Napster in 1999.

Before that was HotLine. I got dragged into court because a friend’s server that I helped manage for music got loaded with porn including kid porn. It came in so fast that it was unmanageable. Interesting times indeed, pfft. I helped get him cleared on the pron charge but they had him on something else though.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 19, 2023 • 10:54:15pm

re: #156 mmmirele

Beth Moore gets so much sh*t from people. She criticized Jonathan Edwards for owning slaves—there are a couple new YT videos attacking her for that. Another YT video out Thursday calls her a “wicked woman.” It’s really amazing how much hate there is for her, when she’s just a very middle of the road Bible teacher. She doesn’t tell her (female) listeners and readers anything that might upset them. But she’s hated because she’s a woman and she *teaches,* which is a terrible sin.

That said, it’s not like she went very far from the Southern Baptist Convention when she decided a couple years ago she’d had enough. She went to the fake Anglicans (ACNA), an organization that started in large part because they can’t stand LGBTQIA people, which has its own sexual abuse scandals. So she still has issues with LGBTQIA people, which is unfortunate.

I’m well aware of the ACNA since it was Richard Mellon Scaife that gave them the startup money to breakaway from the Episcopal Church. After the steel mills died in Ambridge PA, Scaife set up the ACNA seminary in Ambridge and he had turned the once solid union town into a Republican stronghold.

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2023 • 11:00:21pm

re: #163 sagehen

Nixon won by a landslide in ‘72; the last month or two before his resignation he was down to about 25% approval.

When the Senators came to ask him to resign, he asked “can I beat an impeachment? How many votes do I have?” Goldwater told him “maybe a dozen. And I’m not one of them.”

Nixon won the election by a landslide, but his approval rating was barely above 60%. It hit its highest immediately after the election (67%), but then began to decline from there until it was underwater by May.

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Captain Ron  Jan 19, 2023 • 11:16:56pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 19, 2023 • 11:24:52pm

re: #147 Grunthos the Flatulent

Tomorrow no, Wordle yes. Sometimes the day just gets away on you.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 19, 2023 • 11:31:16pm

re: #168 Targetpractice

Nixon won the election by a landslide, but his approval rating was barely above 60%. It hit its highest immediately after the election (67%), but then began to decline from there until it was underwater by May.

It wasn’t so much that Nixon won by a landslide but that McGovern lost by a landslide. Nixon’s actual policies were significantly to the left of all Republicans that followed him.

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2023 • 11:50:03pm

re: #171 Hecuba’s daughter

It wasn’t so much that Nixon won by a landslide but that McGovern lost by a landslide. Nixon’s actual policies were significantly to the left of all Republicans that followed him.

Right, it wasn’t so much that Nixon won by a landslide as it was that McGovern cratered, his loss only made worse by a strong third party challenge siphoning off votes. Much like how he’s won 4 years prior in the wake of a Dem party civil war, he won in ‘72 by running himself as the “moderate” alternative to a far-left “radical.”

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Captain Ron  Jan 19, 2023 • 11:51:16pm
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sagehen  Jan 20, 2023 • 12:15:54am

re: #172 Targetpractice

Right, it wasn’t so much that Nixon won by a landslide as it was that McGovern cratered, his loss only made worse by a strong third party challenge siphoning off votes. Much like how he’s won 4 years prior in the wake of a Dem party civil war, he won in ‘72 by running himself as the “moderate” alternative to a far-left “radical.”

EPA
OSHA
Endangered Species Act
Clean Air Act
Clean Water Act
Title IX
Title X
saved Israel in ‘73
highest marginal tax rate, 70%

that’s plenty left enough for me. Anything leftier I’d be wary of. Sorry about the criming, I could have done without that.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 20, 2023 • 1:27:30am

re: #130 teleskiguy

Rabbit Ears Pass.

I’ve x-country skied there. Years and years ago.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 20, 2023 • 1:32:13am

re: #135 ckkatz

Thanks!

Even though I grew up in Pittsburgh, I know absolutely diddly about any form of skiing.

That area never struck me as a skiing mecca. You had to drive east to find slopes with snow or sufficient ground snow for x-country trails. (Boyce Park aside.)

I got my chops as a skier growing up in the 1970s in northern NY. Adirondacks not a long drive to the southeast for downhill. And enough snow most years that you could drop your cross-country skis in the backyard and go from there.

I only went downhill skiing once or twice. My sister preferred downhill to cross-country. The high school I went to even had a ski team and my siblings and I were all on the team at one point. (The downhill team was eliminated before I started high school and the cross-country tream was dropped the year I graduated. We supplied our own equipment. The thing was the expense of the bus to take us to meets.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 20, 2023 • 1:43:39am

The Origins of the “Fair Tax”: Scientology (CBS News, September 7, 2007)

Just tossing that out there. Where the GOP and the Libertairans got the idea of a flat national sales tax.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 20, 2023 • 1:57:03am

In which Glenn Greenwalt figures out the pals he hangs around with are shyte.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 20, 2023 • 2:18:37am

SMH

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 20, 2023 • 2:20:56am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 20, 2023 • 2:23:37am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 20, 2023 • 2:24:37am

re: #179 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

A lot of people wearing their politics on their sleeves and relishing the non-operation of their brains.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 20, 2023 • 2:32:03am

re: #181 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The second to last section is on the “rope line”, to the top of Mt. Hakodate (the thumbnail in the video’s static page). Not that I’d want to ride it, but for those of you big into ski lifts it’s a fancy gondola.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 20, 2023 • 2:41:36am

re: #147 Grunthos the Flatulent

Tomorrow no, Wordle yes. Sometimes the day just gets away on you.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 20, 2023 • 2:45:52am

Thread, five tweets.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 20, 2023 • 2:53:14am

Not a drag queen. Another Christian.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 20, 2023 • 3:00:48am

re: #161 teleskiguy

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I live just a bit south of Edinboro. That is where my youngest son would go for the wrestling finals of the Great Lakes Wrestling tournaments. When the weather is bad, it will be worse in Edinboro. And of course the tournament lead up matches were held mostly around Erie and Edinboro (we here in town did host one leg of the tournament locally each year). Many a winter morning driving in totally shitty weather to get up north to the host site so he could do weigh-in by 8:30 am. Then hours waiting for his matches to come up. 8 or more hour days for his (depending on how far into the bracket he went) maybe 25 minutes of him wrestling. I would always volunteer to help run a scoring table, at least it gave me something to do.

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sagehen  Jan 20, 2023 • 3:11:24am

Two long trailer-trucks just pulled up across the street from me, each trailer has 8 tiny dressing rooms. I wonder who’s filming what.

(speculation based just on the odds — one of the L&O’s. They’ve filmed a lot at the junior high down the block, but I don’t think that’s where they’re going this time because it’s Friday. So maybe Riverside Park? Depending on the angle you point your cameras, there’s about 3 dozen “locations” just between the stairs at 68th St and the other stairs at 72nd St. A baseball field, a basketball court, a running track, 2 dog runs, a pier, an outdoor restaurant, 3 kinds of boardwalk and several gazebos, half a dozen kinds of landscaping, burned out cargo loading train tracks…)

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 20, 2023 • 3:21:48am
The Kensington neighborhood of Philadelphia - known as ‘ground zero’ for the city’s drug epidemic - is in crisis due to widespread abuse of an animal tranquilizer called xylazine.

Addicts are shooting up in broad daylight, hunched over in a stupor or passed out on the streets. Many have raw, gaping wounds in desperate need of medical attention. And there are needles, syringes and garbage littered across the sidewalks.

‘I’ve never seen human beings remain in these kinds of conditions,’ said Sarah Laurel, who runs outreach organization Savage Sisters.

dailymail.co.uk

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Targetpractice  Jan 20, 2023 • 3:22:41am

re: #177 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The Origins of the “Fair Tax”: Scientology (CBS News, September 7, 2007)

Just tossing that out there. Where the GOP and the Libertairans got the idea of a flat national sales tax.

“Fair Tax”: When “we don’t think the rich should pay taxes ever again!” is a little too on the nose.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 3:27:48am

re: #190 Targetpractice

“Fair Tax”: When “we don’t think the rich should pay taxes ever again!” is a little too on the nose.

The so-called “fair tax” is in response to the “progressive” income tax that the United States has, where the rich (rightfully) pay more. It’s called “fair” because “everyone pays their fair share,” meaning that everyone pays the same percentage, even though the fact that this is actually a regressive tax was covered in my Macroeconomics 101 class in college. It’s yet another rebrand by libertarian douchebros to make their odious every-man-for-themselves policies sound palatable on paper.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 20, 2023 • 3:30:35am
$0
The amount of federal income tax Trump paid in 2020.
4.1%
The highest effective tax rate Trump paid on his income during the period, a bill of $999,466 in 2018.
$8.5 million
The amount Trump paid in state and local taxes in 2020, subject to the $10,000 deduction cap enacted in his 2017 tax law.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 3:35:45am

Well. That was an interesting start.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 20, 2023 • 3:41:09am

What could go wrong?

Bar owners in Texas have resorted to sleeping in their watering holes — while armed with guns — thanks to non-stop burglaries and the city’s soft-on-crime policies.

Lindsey Rae, the owner of Two-Headed Dog in Houston, was part of a coalition of bar owners — whose cash registered and liquor cabinets have been emptied recently — that begged elected officials for help Wednesday.

“I have been burglarized 15 times in the last year,” Rae said during a city council meeting.

“We’re seeing, if they are getting caught, they’re getting re-released because of the cash bond issues we’re having,” Rae explained. “They can come back and rob us again.”

After Raul Jacobo’s Cobos Barbecue was hit twice in two weeks, he started sleeping in his restaurant office with a gun

nypost.com

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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2023 • 3:41:30am

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Thread, five tweets.

I would never let a man who is not a blood relative babysit my kids. Most parents wouldn’t. And yet we let male couples adopt children and then act surprised when this happens.
It’s not surprising. Horrific, infuriating, gut-wrenchingly disgusting and evil. But not surprising.

— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) January 18, 2023

Arrant bullshit. We got babysitters from the Second Infantry sport parachute club. My 4 kids had sitters named Mad Jack and Roach. Modern media deliberately and accidentally uses fear to to dissolve American society.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 3:50:08am

re: #195 Decatur Deb

Arrant bullshit. We got babysitters from the Second Infantry sport parachute club. My 4 kids had sitters named Mad Jack and Roach. Modern media deliberately and accidentally uses fear to to dissolve American society.

I’ve told our kids on repeated occasions that if Mom and Dad are out on a date and something happens to the house, go to the neighbor across the street.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 20, 2023 • 3:53:17am

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sagehen  Jan 20, 2023 • 3:55:15am

re: #191 Dopamine Fish

The so-called “fair tax” is in response to the “progressive” income tax that the United States has, where the rich (rightfully) pay more. It’s called “fair” because “everyone pays their fair share,” meaning that everyone pays the same percentage, even though the fact that this is actually a regressive tax was covered in my Macroeconomics 101 class in college. It’s yet another rebrand by libertarian douchebros to make their odious every-man-for-themselves policies sound palatable on paper.

Adam Smith in The Wealth of Nations:

“The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. A tax upon house-rents, therefore, would in general fall heaviest upon the rich; and in this sort of inequality there would not, perhaps, be anything very unreasonable. It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.”

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2023 • 4:00:27am

re: #190 Targetpractice

“Fair Tax”: When “we don’t think the rich should pay taxes ever again!” is a little too on the nose.

When it comes to taxes “fair” is only in the eyes of the person designing it and what they’re trying to accomplish

No taxpayer ever thinks it’s fair

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 20, 2023 • 4:04:33am

re: #96 Mattand

So here’s the deal: both the my partner and I quit Planet Fitness recently. According to their ToS, you need to do it within 10 days of your next billing cycle or you get charged another month.

I was blissfully unaware of this when I quit. However, it must have been before the 10 day window. I walked in, said “I’m out”, they scanned my QR code, and I was on my way. No fuss, no drama.

My partner did it the day before the billing cycle and got dinged the $10. She groused at the counter, but then went home and looked up the ToS.

Other than that, it was pretty painless.

And I tried for months. I refuse to go in because of COVID. I cancelled the payments with my bank, and planet griftness slightly changes the name of the auto withdrawal (like from *ABC PLT FT to *ABC PLT FTN). That happened three times over several months. I finally went to the bank (which infuriated me because it was so unnecessary and I just don’t go to places with other people often) and had to cancel my debit card and get a new one.

I was told at the bank that this happens regularly and they, nor I, understand why the government hasn’t done anything about this theft by planet fitness.

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TarHellion  Jan 20, 2023 • 4:38:49am

Second shot from the fairway lipped out for the beagle. But left the easiest tap-in birbie to end the week. MrsTarH is getting used to her new lower teeth. Just so happy she can finally eat food again! Hoping to pick up some of her favorite seafood this weekend. Be cool, folks!

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TarHellion  Jan 20, 2023 • 4:43:01am

re: #194 Shropshire Slasher

It’s a plot for the sequel to Blood Simple. Somebody call the Coen brothers!

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2023 • 5:15:27am
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John Hughes  Jan 20, 2023 • 5:15:58am

re: #200 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Nobody can withdraw money from my account unless I have sent a numbered agreement to my bank. If cancel that agreement then the bank cancels the number. The name of the person trying to do the withdrawal is irrelevant.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 5:16:39am

Poor people are only allowed to buy poor people food. You want to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps? You’ll have to do it on even worse nutrition now.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2023 • 5:18:26am

re: #205 Dopamine Fish

Poor people are only allowed to buy poor people food. You want to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps? You’ll have to do it on even worse nutrition now.

Chili Mac Attack.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 5:20:20am

re: #206 Decatur Deb

Chili Mac Attack.

I think the “no fresh meats” is the part that burns me the most. There’s nutritional value in canned meats, but they’re literally relegating these people to second-class citizen status by saying, “We get the good stuff - you know, the stuff that would actually help you - and you get the castoffs we don’t want. Fuck all y’all.”

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 20, 2023 • 5:24:20am

Rain and a bit warm through the night, now temp dropping, and snowing. Should be a real fun drive down to Pittsburgh this morning. If it wasn’t a medical appointment for my wife I would cancel out.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 5:25:21am

re: #208 Eventual Carrion

Rain and a bit warm through the night, now temp dropping, and snowing. Should be a real fun drive down to Pittsburgh this morning. If it wasn’t a medical appointment for my wife I would cancel out.

Be safe out there.

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Thanos  Jan 20, 2023 • 5:26:24am
A federal judge on Thursday imposed nearly $1 million in sanctions on former President Donald Trump and his lawyer for filing a since-dismissed “frivolous” lawsuit against Hillary Clinton and many others, which had claimed they tried to rig the 2016 presidential election in her favor by smearing Trump.

“We are confronted with a lawsuit that should never have been filed, which was completely frivolous, both factually and legally, and which was brought in bad faith for an improper purpose,” wrote Judge John Middlebrooks in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida in his order sanctioning Trump and his attorney Alina Habba.

cnbc.com

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2023 • 5:31:55am

re: #205 Dopamine Fish

Poor people are only allowed to buy poor people food. You want to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps? You’ll have to do it on even worse nutrition now.

Thinking about this from last night, I wonder if state farmers will throw a fit. This basically prevents a lot of the money from being spent on state grown meat.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2023 • 5:32:52am

I noticed this happened yesterday for me, and I dont really care to hear from most of the people:

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2023 • 5:33:26am
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Belafon  Jan 20, 2023 • 5:34:07am
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Belafon  Jan 20, 2023 • 5:36:37am
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John Hughes  Jan 20, 2023 • 5:44:35am

re: #205 Dopamine Fish

Poor people are only allowed to buy poor people food. You want to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps? You’ll have to do it on even worse nutrition now.

not even that.

It says “poor people are only allowed to eat the food they don’t want to eat”.

The whole “no white bread” thing is “forcing” people to eat better food, even if they don’t want to.

The eat real beans thing is similar, with an added “spend more time cooking” (‘cos we know you don’t have the time).

Then it goes “no real meat, eat cat food”.

But goes back to “eat fancy French cheese”. Wtf.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 20, 2023 • 5:44:53am

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ipsos  Jan 20, 2023 • 6:04:35am

A good day for the Wordly Beast…

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 20, 2023 • 6:08:46am

re: #219 ipsos

Made some dumb mistakes — it’s been a string of bad rounds for me

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 6:14:10am

BTW, I am incredibly proud of Mrs. Fish. I explained to her the Republicans’ insane plan to scrap the IRS and institute a nationwide 30% sales tax, and she looks at me, bug-eyed, and without hesitation, asks, “If they’re scrapping the IRS, who the fuck do they think is going to collect the tax?” I knew I married an intelligent and thoughtful woman.

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jeffreyw  Jan 20, 2023 • 6:22:48am

Good morning!

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 20, 2023 • 6:23:52am

I welcome our new alien penguin overlords:

Scientists discover a new penguin colony from SPACE: Incredible satellite images reveal a group of around 500 birds living on Antarctica’s coastline

dailymail.co.uk

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No Malarkey!  Jan 20, 2023 • 6:27:35am
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JC1  Jan 20, 2023 • 6:28:34am

re: #177 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The Origins of the “Fair Tax”: Scientology (CBS News, September 7, 2007)

Just tossing that out there. Where the GOP and the Libertairans got the idea of a flat national sales tax.

Most of Europe has a substantial VAT, so that idea isn’t crazy in and of itself. We have a national tax on gasoline. It’s the repealing of the income tax that’s crazy.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 20, 2023 • 6:31:12am

re: #225 JC1

Most of Europe has a substantial VAT, so that idea isn’t crazy in and of itself. We have a national tax on gasoline. It’s the repealing of the income tax that’s crazy.

lol, they won’t repeal the income tax, we will just get both.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 20, 2023 • 6:36:02am

Very sad, I wonder if the pilot pulled a John Denver.

Two men have died after their plane crashed in New York while on their way to a funeral - with a devastating final text message sent to friends saying they had ‘lost their engines’.

Boruch Taub and Binyamin ‘Ben’ Chafetz, both from Cleveland and identified by Jewish news organization, Belaaz News, were killed on Thursday night when their single engine aircraft encountered technical issues at about 5.25pm and crashed in Westchester County.

Taub, owner of ‘MasterWorks Automotive & Transmission,’ had been the pilot of the Beechcraft Bonanza A36, while, Chafetz, who worked as a tech entrepreneur, was his only passenger.

dailymail.co.uk

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 6:36:32am

re: #226 Shropshire Slasher

lol, they won’t repeal the income tax, we will just get both.

The Republican plan here in America is to repeal the income tax and replace it with a national sales tax. That’s what the post is responding to.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 20, 2023 • 6:41:31am

re: #228 Dopamine Fish

The Republican plan here in America is to repeal the income tax and replace it with a national sales tax. That’s what the post is responding to.

and what I am saying is that we will get both…

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mmmirele  Jan 20, 2023 • 6:45:49am

re: #177 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The Origins of the “Fair Tax”: Scientology (CBS News, September 7, 2007)

Just tossing that out there. Where the GOP and the Libertairans got the idea of a flat national sales tax.

*This* is how I first really heard about Scientology in the early 1980s (besides walking by their shop on Guadalupe St. in Austin where they scared everyone off with their insistent body routing). One time they plastered the entire West Campus with a tabloid-size screed detailing their government woes (they had no tax exemption at the time) and proposing this “Fair Tax” to get rid of the IRS. It was several years later before I started learning about the other stuff.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 6:52:01am

re: #229 Shropshire Slasher

and what I am saying is that we will get both…

Hmm. Elaborate, if you would. I’m genuinely curious to hear where you think this is going.

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2023 • 6:52:13am
Donald Trump issued a warning to Republican lawmakers on Friday: Don’t lay a finger on entitlement programs as part of the debt ceiling showdown with the White House,” Politico reports.

Said Trump: “Under no circumstances should Republicans vote to cut a single penny from Medicare or Social Security.”

Feels Like its gonna be a fun day

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2023 • 6:54:53am
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sizzzzlerz  Jan 20, 2023 • 6:55:05am

re: #227 Shropshire Slasher

Very sad, I wonder if the pilot pulled a John Denver.

dailymail.co.uk

What is a “John Denver’? Denver died flying an home built aircraft due to problems switching fuel tanks, causing he and his plane to crash into Monterey bay. Denver was an experienced pilot with ratings for a variety of aircraft.

How does this article indicate any of that happened?

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2023 • 6:56:47am

re: #221 Dopamine Fish

BTW, I am incredibly proud of Mrs. Fish. I explained to her the Republicans’ insane plan to scrap the IRS and institute a nationwide 30% sales tax, and she looks at me, bug-eyed, and without hesitation, asks, “If they’re scrapping the IRS, who the fuck do they think is going to collect the tax?” I knew I married an intelligent and thoughtful woman.

Its worse
They want to tie in repeal of the 16th within 7 years
If not the sales tax dies
Then there would be nothing at all

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 20, 2023 • 6:58:26am

re: #231 Dopamine Fish

Hmm. Elaborate, if you would. I’m genuinely curious to hear where you think this is going.

Similar to building a new toll bridge, and the tolls will end when the bridge is paid for.

Or.

We need to phase in the VAT tax and gradually phase out the income tax.

Pretty simple stuff.

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sizzzzlerz  Jan 20, 2023 • 6:58:41am

re: #229 Shropshire Slasher

and what I am saying is that we will get both…

Like the early days of cable TV when we were promised that it would be ad-free. Now we have both commercials and ever more costly subscription fees.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 6:59:23am

re: #235 Dangerman

Its worse
They want to tie in repeal of the 16th within 7 years
If not the sales tax dies
Then there would be nothing at all

In other words, an ultimatum: Do what we say, or the government’s funding dies an ugly death.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:00:02am

re: #234 sizzzzlerz

What is a “John Denver’? Denver died flying an home built aircraft due to problems switching fuel tanks, causing he and his plane to crash into Monterey bay. Denver was an experienced pilot with ratings for a variety of aircraft.

How does this article indicate any of that happened?

80% of airplane accidents are due to human error.

If I was a betting man I would say the pilot forgot to switch tanks, like Mr. Denver.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:01:21am

Alabama Bowl Cut

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:01:42am

re: #238 Dopamine Fish

In other words, an ultimatum: Do what we say, or the government’s funding dies an ugly death.

McCarthy promised a vote but this is going nowhere.

The dems need to campaign on: now if the Rs ever get the trifecta…

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:02:16am

re: #226 Shropshire Slasher

lol, they won’t repeal the income tax, we will just get both.

The wealthy want the income tax repealed. We won’t get both.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:02:28am

re: #241 Dangerman

McCarthy promised a vote but this is going nowhere.

The dems need to campaign on: now if the Rs ever get the trifecta…

No, we all know that it’s not going anywhere, it’s just the fact that there are people who think this is what’s healthy and best for America.

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:03:02am

re: #240 Dave In Austin

Alabama Bowl Cut

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Ned Beatty?

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:04:06am

re: #242 Belafon

The wealthy want the income tax repealed. We won’t get both.

$0
The amount of federal income tax Trump paid in 2020.

bloomberg.com

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William Lewis  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:04:18am

re: #233 Belafon

I can see that. It’s still a garbage movie though like all of his overrated work.

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sizzzzlerz  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:05:19am

re: #222 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Throw a little pineapple on that so that when you throw the pizza away, you’ll have done humanity a great service.

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:05:46am

re: #207 Dopamine Fish

I think the “no fresh meats” is the part that burns me the most. There’s nutritional value in canned meats, but they’re literally relegating these people to second-class citizen status by saying, “We get the good stuff - you know, the stuff that would actually help you - and you get the castoffs we don’t want. Fuck all y’all.”

We can t have those people eating t-bones and lobsters. //

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sizzzzlerz  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:08:45am

re: #243 Dopamine Fish

No, we all know that it’s not going anywhere, it’s just the fact that there are people who think this is what’s healthy and best for America.

They may say that this is what’s healthy and best for America but really believe its what’s best for them to keep receiving those fat campaign donation checks from their wealthy patrons.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:10:02am

re: #248 Dangerman

We can t have those people eating t-bones and lobsters. //

I know you’re being sarcastic, but that is seriously what these evil assholes think, and it got me thinking: Why not? Why can poor people not have nice things? Say I’ve been out of work for 6 months, my unemployment is about to run out, we’ve been eating off food stamps for the last 2 months. Suddenly, out of nowhere, I get a job offer: It’s not much, but it’s enough to get by on. Possibly enough to get me out of the food stamp bracket. We’ve been miserable for months, and I want to celebrate with one really nice dinner for myself and my family. Why the fuck should I not be allowed to do that? Is our capacity to care for people so little that I am not allowed to get a much-needed morale boost by being able to spend a little extra on this week’s food stamp allotment? Should I be forced to deepen my mental health issues by being reminded every week that we’re poor and we can’t have any tasty food to liven up our miserable days?

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:11:36am

re: #243 Dopamine Fish

No, we all know that it’s not going anywhere, it’s just the fact that there are people who think this is what’s healthy and best for America.

For their donors, not America writ large

They are either clueless about macro eco or just dont care

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Dave In Austin  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:11:38am
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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:13:24am

re: #249 sizzzzlerz

They may say that this is what’s healthy and best for America but really believe its what’s best for them to keep receiving those fat campaign donation checks from their wealthy patrons.

Gmta
If only i typed faster…

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:13:53am
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sizzzzlerz  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:18:11am

re: #205 Dopamine Fish

Poor people are only allowed to buy poor people food. You want to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps? You’ll have to do it on even worse nutrition now.

High sodium, chemically laced, over-fatty, processed tinned meat parts for the win!

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:18:13am

re: #252 Dave In Austin

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I believe they turned the dox over the day after they found them
There’s an investigation
The WH is out of it.

It wasn’t and isnt incumbent on the prez to “announce” it or provide updates
Talk to the investigators
Theyre not talking? Tough.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:19:16am
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Belafon  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:20:52am
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dat_said  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:20:56am

re: #240 Dave In Austin

Alabama Bowl Cut

A different ND legislator (19 yo with another unique ND hairstyle) is worried about the correct use of the word milk (pronounced something like “miak” in ND):

Funny thing is that dairy in ND is a $65 million industry while soy beans are a $2.3 Billion industry: nass.usda.gov

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:22:01am
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sagehen  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:22:27am

re: #223 Shropshire Slasher

I welcome our new alien penguin overlords:

dailymail.co.uk

Penguin colony from space?!?

I mean, I knew they like it. cold, but DAMN.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:23:28am

re: #259 dat_said

So it’s a sparkling dairy product unless it comes from an udder in the North Central region of the US.

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dat_said  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:24:55am

re: #262 Belafon

So it’s a sparkling dairy product unless it comes from an udder in the North Central region of the US.

We have all kinds of milk in ND - country (goat) and western (cow).

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:26:15am

re: #261 sagehen

Penguins from space are particularly dangerous:

Gunter
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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:27:09am

Mrs. Fish made me an agreement: I can tell her about the bad/stupid news going on in the world, but I need to pair it with a good news article to balance things out and not make things too depressing. Um, slight problem with that: IT’S ALL BAD NEWS THESE DAYS. The process of keeping you up to date is necessarily going to include days where I go, “Welp, I’ve got 15 things I need to tell you, but none of them are good, so…”

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Teukka  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:27:17am

re: #264 Belafon

Penguins from space are particularly dangerous:

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Music related?

Woodpeckers from Space

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:30:28am

re: #260 Belafon

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R political calculations always trump political ethics

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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:32:16am

re: #260 Belafon

A man with zero chance of surviving as Speaker is enabling a lunatic to put that off for a little longer. Republicans will do so many terrible things rather than engage with reality.

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:33:08am

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:34:21am

re: #267 Dangerman

R political calculations always trump political ethics

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I heard that Democrats decide committee membership based mainly on seniority and Republicans on much money members get in campaign donations.

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:34:26am
breaking scientific news: “Researchers have identified a previously unknown species in D.C. Like cicadas, this species stays underground for years at a time, typically in four- or eight-year intervals. Its members hide away until there is an auspicious change in the ecosystem. Then, they bust out and wreak havoc.”

“This species: Republicans who care about deficits.”

Wapo

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:35:02am

I paid into them, therefore I’m entitled to getting that money back.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:39:34am

Someone talk me down off this thought….

A-10’s for Ukraine. Why not? implications.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:41:18am

re: #163 sagehen

Nixon won by a landslide in ‘72; the last month or two before his resignation he was down to about 25% approval.

When the Senators came to ask him to resign, he asked “can I beat an impeachment? How many votes do I have?” Goldwater told him “maybe a dozen. And I’m not one of them.”

I may have been the first Watergate protestor to catch Nixon’s eye. Fresh out of the Navy and at Kent State University I knew at once it was bad and managed to stick a sign in his face in the fall of 72, as he went by in a convertible. He blanched and turned away VERY fast. My sign said: “Please tell us the truth about Watergate.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:41:59am

re: #172 Targetpractice

Right, it wasn’t so much that Nixon won by a landslide as it was that McGovern cratered, his loss only made worse by a strong third party challenge siphoning off votes. Much like how he’s won 4 years prior in the wake of a Dem party civil war, he won in ‘72 by running himself as the “moderate” alternative to a far-left “radical.”

1972 didn’t have a strong third party candidate. And if it weren’t for the dirty tricks waged against Muskie, he may very well have been the Democratic nominee with a much stronger showing against Nixon. My guess, though, is that Nixon would still have won, but it would not have been an overwhelming victory.

Of course, given that the Democrats were in charge of the House and Senate, much of Nixon’s domestic agenda can be attributed to his willingness to support Democratic policies because his focus was on FP. But years later, Ted Kennedy admitted he should have consented to Nixon’s proposals for health care; we would then have had national health care decades before the ACA.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:42:53am

re: #273 Dave In Austin

Someone talk me down off this thought….

A-10’s for Ukraine. Why not? implications.

Logistics. Ukraine’s supply chain, air-power wise, is centered on late Soviet bloc aircraft. The retraining required to get pilots into American aircraft would be extensive, and then there’s the supply chain to get a steady flow of parts and ammunition into their hands to make good on damage sustained in combat. While they are powerful tools, not all powerful tools are practical in every situation. The same applies to the M1 Abrams MBT; while it’s a capable unit for American forces with American logistics, setting up the Ukrainians with enough of the same training and logistics to make Abrams work seamlessly with their units would be very difficult.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:44:34am

re: #276 Dopamine Fish

The difference with European-supplied aircraft or tanks is that Europeans have a comparably shorter supply chain, and while the logistical connecting points between America and Europe are unlikely to be challenged by Russia, it’s still a lot of distance and a lot more money that America would be spending. And with Republicans in charge in the House, that might be a problem.

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Teukka  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:47:49am

re: #273 Dave In Austin

Someone talk me down off this thought….

A-10’s for Ukraine. Why not? implications.

I’ve spoken with a gal who works for the USAF in a chat. She said that they almost had to put their A-10 experienced pilots in straightjackets when they saw the Russian convoys earlier in the Ukraine invasion…

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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:47:51am

Former Chicago Tribune writer John Kass has had some major health problems.

Chicago Way w/John Kass: An Update (WGN Radio)

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wrenchwench  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:49:01am

re: #274 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I may have been the first Watergate protestor to catch Nixon’s eye. Fresh out of the Navy and at Kent State University I knew at once it was bad and managed to stick a sign in his face in the fall of 72, as he went by in a convertible. He blanched and turned away VERY fast. My sign said my please: “Please tell us the truth about Watergate.”

Good work. He hated protestors and signs. You helped him decide to get out, as early and small as it may seem…

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Nojay UK  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:51:45am

re: #276 Dopamine Fish

The Ukranians already have A-10s, they’re just called Su-25s. They even have a titanium bathtub for the pilot to sit in. The Russians have Su-25s too of course. The Oryxspioenkop online database says that the Russians have lost 25 Su-25s since this debacle kicked off, most destroyed after being shot out of the sky by AA. The Ukranians have lost 15 Su-25s.

There’s nothing magical about A-10s, they would be just as vulnerable to AA, MANPADs and thrown rocks as any other low and slow ground-attack plane or helicopter in this conflict.

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:52:40am

So trumps gotta pay $1m in sanctions
Less than a year

the $1.6m in fines in the Criminal tax fraud case took longer ..indictment 7/21
Thought the case started 10/31/22

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wrenchwench  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:53:53am

re: #263 dat_said

We have all kinds of milk in ND - country (goat) and western (cow).

Starbucks has two different recipe cards for the beverages containing non-dairy ‘milk’; a Canadian one and a US one. The word ‘milk’ does not appear on the Canadian ones.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 7:59:23am

re: #281 Nojay UK

The physical differences between an A-10 and an Su-25 are significant. Conceptually, sure, maybe they’re the same, but in terms of logistics, it’s a night and day difference.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:01:07am

My congressman.
Have at him…….

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:03:17am

re: #285 Dave In Austin

My congressman.
Have at him…….

I’d believe you, if you weren’t pro-death-penalty, pro-war, and pro-killing women in the name of fetuses who are not viable and will not survive anyway.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:05:27am

re: #285 Dave In Austin

My congressman.
Have at him…….

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It is.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:08:21am

re: #212 Belafon

I noticed this happened yesterday for me, and I dont really care to hear from most of the people:

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My “For You” tab looks fine now. In response to the many objections, Musk made some comment recently about revising the algorithm. That may have helped but it’s possible that my muting people I didn’t like took care of everything.

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Teukka  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:08:47am

re: #276 Dopamine Fish

Logistics. Ukraine’s supply chain, air-power wise, is centered on late Soviet bloc aircraft. The retraining required to get pilots into American aircraft would be extensive, and then there’s the supply chain to get a steady flow of parts and ammunition into their hands to make good on damage sustained in combat. While they are powerful tools, not all powerful tools are practical in every situation. The same applies to the M1 Abrams MBT; while it’s a capable unit for American forces with American logistics, setting up the Ukrainians with enough of the same training and logistics to make Abrams work seamlessly with their units would be very difficult.

re: #281 Nojay UK

The Ukranians already have A-10s, they’re just called Su-25s. They even have a titanium bathtub for the pilot to sit in. The Russians have Su-25s too of course. The Oryxspioenkop online database says that the Russians have lost 25 Su-25s since this debacle kicked off, most destroyed after being shot out of the sky by AA. The Ukranians have lost 15 Su-25s.

There’s nothing magical about A-10s, they would be just as vulnerable to AA, MANPADs and thrown rocks as any other low and slow ground-attack plane or helicopter in this conflict.

re: #284 Dopamine Fish

The physical differences between an A-10 and an Su-25 are significant. Conceptually, sure, maybe they’re the same, but in terms of logistics, it’s a night and day difference.

When it comes to the A-10, it’s more of a challenge to maintain, while Su-25 is easier (there’s this saying that some Soviet-era aircraft are so easy that you could let a trainee on them), and if memory serves me right, A-10 is more survivable, like maintenance crew being regularly surprised at how much beating the A-10’s got and still got home.

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TarHellion  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:12:03am

re: #275 Hecuba’s daughter

That was Kennedy’s biggest regret - pulling the plug on Nixon’s plan and instead advocating for a single-payer system. Had we gone with Nixoncare, it likely would have evolved into a Medicare-for-all type of format today.

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wrenchwench  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:12:51am

Workle.

Wordle 580 5/6*

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Nojay UK  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:16:27am

re: #284 Dopamine Fish

The physical differences between an A-10 and an Su-25 are significant. Conceptually, sure, maybe they’re the same, but in terms of logistics, it’s a night and day difference.

True, the Su-25 is a lot simpler to operate than the A-10. It has conformal-pack 30mm cannons instead of being lumbered with the A10’s integral gun which can’t be dismounted to make way for other more useful ordnance choices but generally in terms of payload, speed, range etc. they’re very similar and similarly vulnerable in a modern conflict.

The A-10 would only be useful to the Ukranians if command of the air is guaranteed and enemy AA has been suppressed and Ukranian forces have managed neither objective. The Russians inherited the old Soviet doctrine of artillery uber alles hence the impressive number of tubes they can bring to bear on a problem but their belief in AA missile and gun systems comes a close second in terms of numbers and capabilities, from S-300 down through Pantsir, Tor and the Shilka SPAAG. That doesn’t include MANPADs either and this conflict is revealing more and more that an infrantryman with a MANPAD is a serious threat to any million-dollar aircraft that shows itself.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:17:06am

re: #285 Dave In Austin

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:23:00am

Implicit in “the right to life = the right for a fetus to trump everything” is the implication that the reason they don’t respect the life of the mother is because they don’t approve of being a slut. Women who concern themselves with abortion clearly intend on living a sinful lifestyle, their reasoning goes, and so of COURSE they’re going to value the life of an innocent unborn child over the life of some dumb whore who can’t keep her legs closed. That the circumstances in which abortions are sought are widely varied and almost NEVER occur because a woman’s unwanted pregnancy is a result of a promiscuous lifestyle never even crosses their mind. It’s because they’re pinned into their worldview where everyone around them is affluent and white, and they can’t conceive of any reason one of those women would have an abortion except for being a sexual libertine.

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Teukka  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:25:51am

re: #293 Belafon

You also have Deuteronomy 22:23-29, where it literally reads “Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor”[Deut 22:26]. And with the current knowledge about sexual crime, we know that mentally, a rape victim very often is “out in the country” (to use biblical allegory)[Deut 22:25].

And regardless what the legislators stated intent is, if you force a raped woman to bear a child to term, it will have the same effect as punishing her, which Deuteronomy actually explicitly prohibits.

Oh the vicious attacks I’ve suffered at the hand of evangelicals when I’ve pointed the above out…

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wrenchwench  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:25:53am

re: #294 Dopamine Fish

Whereas, in reality, most people who get abortions are mothers.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:26:33am

re: #263 dat_said

We have all kinds of milk in ND - country (goat) and western (cow).

I certainly can understand a decision that a product should be actual “milk” if called such. Maybe almond or soy or oat “milk” should be called “milk substitute” instead.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:26:44am


Wordle 580 4/6

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calochortus  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:28:10am

re: #297 Hecuba’s daughter

I certainly can understand a decision that a product should be actual “milk” if called such. Maybe almond or soy or oat “milk” should be called “milk substitute” instead.

Milk-substitute of magnesia?

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wrenchwench  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:28:40am

re: #297 Hecuba’s daughter

I certainly can understand a decision that a product should be actual “milk” if called such. Maybe almond or soy or oat “milk” should be called “milk substitute” instead.

Canadians keep the word out, to avoid confusion, maybe. It’s ‘oat beverage’, soy beverage, etc.

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wrenchwench  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:29:25am

re: #299 calochortus

Milk-substitute of magnesia?

Magnesia beverage.

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EstebanTornado1963  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:30:51am

re: #234 sizzzzlerz

I was working at Monterey at the time. I was basically a rookie, and they made me a temporary supervisor at that time. I remember I was on shift when it happened and called the boss with what happened, and he told me “if there aren’t dead bodies on the runway, don’t bother me”. So I did the best I could with basically no experience. It worked out ok for me even though it was tragic. I’d image today it would be handled entirely different.

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calochortus  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:31:01am

re: #301 wrenchwench

Magnesia beverage.

Yum!

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EstebanTornado1963  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:32:41am

re: #240 Dave In Austin

Alabama Bowl Cut

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Looks like Will Ferrell and Captain Kangaroo had a kid.

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wrenchwench  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:33:26am

re: #304 EstebanTornado1963

Looks like Will Ferrell and Captain Kangaroo had a kid.

I saw the Captain immediately.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:38:56am

re: #240 Dave In Austin

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:43:34am

re: #299 calochortus

Milk-substitute of magnesia?

Hmmm — never thought of that!! But that isn’t being marketed as a substitute for milk (at least I hope not, lolol)

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jeffreyw  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:44:26am

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gocart mozart  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:53:44am
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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 8:56:17am

re: #309 gocart mozart

I’m still not taking this story completely seriously, but I will admit that I will enjoy a certain amount of schadenfreude if it does, in fact, turn out to be true.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:00:46am

Twitter retroactively changes developer agreement to ban third-party clients

Twitter is officially banning third-party clients—which don’t receive and display ads through the API but can pay fees for enhanced access—at the same time that the company is facing a significant drop in ad revenue and heavy upcoming debt payments as part of Elon Musk’s leveraged purchase of the social media network. A recent timeline of Musk’s Twitter ownership noted that an entire API team responsible for working with third-party apps was let go during company-wide layoffs in early November.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:03:46am

re: #311 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

So does this kill Tweetdeck?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:05:34am

re: #4 The GOP is a racist terrorist organization

“Tucker: If you want to know why they don’t teach history anymore, one thing you should know is the most popular president in American history was Richard Nixon. Yet somehow without a single vote being cast by a single American voter, Richard Nixon kicked out of office…”

“I was just sitting there, photographing and posting pages from my sister’s diary when she came up and suddenly started freaking out for no real reason!”

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Joe Bacon  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:07:32am

Just waiting for the usual gang of Pulpit Pimps to chime in about George being washed in the Horny…er…Holy Ghost…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:07:39am

re: #297 Hecuba’s daughter

I certainly can understand a decision that a product should be actual “milk” if called such. Maybe almond or soy or oat “milk” should be called “milk substitute” instead.

So milkweeds will have to be changed to “cream-like excretion plants”?

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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:08:46am

Casey was the Director in charge of the Mass Effect trilogy.

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(((Archangel1)))  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:11:36am

re: #6 Captain Ron

Well, my video card can no longer keep up with other Folding@Home leaders. I got to 1170th place and am now going backward. I’ll never make the top 1000 list, time to quit.

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I gave up on being in the top 1000 list a long time ago (and being in the top 100 list a LOOOOOOOOONG time ago). While the competitive aspect is always a driving force, I’ve always been of the opinion that every little bit and byte helps in the long run.
And listings be damned, that is one hell of a contribution you’ve got going on there.

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gocart mozart  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:18:44am
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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:21:00am

re: #87 ckkatz

And that right there is why Marvin the Martion should NOT vaporize our planet.

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wrenchwench  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:26:59am

re: #318 gocart mozart

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That’s great!

CLERK: I know nothing. I don’t listen to records. I have a tape player…
Neil: I’m one of the people on this one
Clerk: Excuse me?

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:27:26am

re: #309 gocart mozart

My son, who is into drag, and I have had conversations about style. He is into exaggerated style where, if I did it, I would be into realistic style.

If that is George, he could easily pull off walking around and everyone thinking he’s a woman (and probably anger some guys who later found out that wasn’t a woman they were gawking at).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:28:22am

re: #320 wrenchwench

That’s great!

CLERK: I know nothing. I don’t listen to records. I have a tape player…
Neil: I’m one of the people on this one
Clerk: Excuse me?

That clerk really understood the modern approach to clueless deniability.

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jeffreyw  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:28:33am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:31:55am

re: #318 gocart mozart

I recall being in Russia in the lawless early 90’s: so there was finally artistic freedom but the market was flooded with cheap bootlegs of Metallica and Terminator. So despite the cheaper production costs, the local artists hardly had a chance.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:33:43am
Their final appearance as a quartet was in 2013 at a benefit, after which Young and Crosby became estranged over disparaging comments the notoriously brash Crosby made about Young’s partner.

Crosby made attempts to apologize, but the damage was done.

But following Crosby’s death, Young focused on his longtime collaborator’s artistry and their band’s legend.

“David’s voice and energy were at the heart of our band,” Young wrote on his website. “His great songs stood for what we believed in and it was always fun and exciting when we got to play together.”

Neil Young drops rift to praise Crosby as ‘soul’ of CSNY (AFP via MSN)

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:34:50am

re: #294 Dopamine Fish

Implicit in “the right to life = the right for a fetus to trump everything” is the implication that the reason they don’t respect the life of the mother is because they don’t approve of being a slut. Women who concern themselves with abortion clearly intend on living a sinful lifestyle, their reasoning goes, and so of COURSE they’re going to value the life of an innocent unborn child over the life of some dumb whore who can’t keep her legs closed. That the circumstances in which abortions are sought are widely varied and almost NEVER occur because a woman’s unwanted pregnancy is a result of a promiscuous lifestyle never even crosses their mind. It’s because they’re pinned into their worldview where everyone around them is affluent and white, and they can’t conceive of any reason one of those women would have an abortion except for being a sexual libertine.

this here is the rub. they don’t want ‘personhood’ or equal rights.

they want to instill in the blastocyst/zygote/embryo/fetus etc the presumptive superior rights to compel the actually existing and born mother into subjugation to it without question, and have that power enforced by the state under any and all circumstances.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:36:10am

re: #307 Hecuba’s daughter

Hmmm — never thought of that!! But that isn’t being marketed as a substitute for milk (at least I hope not, lolol)

My bad — until today I didn’t realize that almond milk and soy milk have a centuries long provenance, as opposed to oat milk which was created in the 1990’s. So I retract my comment on switching to “milk substitute”.

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:36:51am

re: #240 Dave In Austin

Alabama Bowl Cut

your small government at work

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:47:42am

re: #327 Hecuba’s daughter

My bad — until today I didn’t realize that almond milk and soy milk have a centuries long provenance, as opposed to oat milk which was created in the 1990’s. So I retract my comment on switching to “milk substitute”.

Huh. That’s new to me, too, so you made me go look it up. I love learning things!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:52:09am

re: #329 Dopamine Fish

Huh. That’s new to me, too, so you made me go look it up. I love learning things!

Just like ‘avocado toast’ is a new, monetary crippling thing — it’s been around a long time. Depending on how you want to define ‘toast’. Easily 1000+ years.

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Captain Ron  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:53:12am
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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:55:52am

re: #331 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Just like ‘avocado toast’ is a new, monetary crippling thing — it’s been around a long time. Depending on how you want to define ‘toast’. Easily 1000+ years.

And I’m sure you were into it before it was cool, right?///

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:57:07am

re: #285 Dave In Austin

My congressman.
Have at him…….

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By “all men” he means “no women”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 20, 2023 • 9:58:45am

re: #334 The Pie Overlord!

By “all men” he means “no women”

And only white men — given that most of the Founding Fathers were slaveholders.

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sizzzzlerz  Jan 20, 2023 • 10:01:34am

re: #328 Dangerman

your small government at work

The same one that the GQP is getting off your back and into your medical files.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 20, 2023 • 10:05:15am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2023 • 10:05:31am

re: #336 sizzzzlerz

The same one that the GQP is getting off your back and into your medical filesreproductive systems.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 20, 2023 • 10:06:41am

re: #323 jeffreyw

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I think it looks like a cinnamon bun.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 20, 2023 • 10:06:51am

re: #333 Dopamine Fish

And I’m sure you were into it before it was cool, right?///

Ouch.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2023 • 10:07:18am

re: #337 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I think the thing about the cheese is they only want people buying cheese blocks.

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sizzzzlerz  Jan 20, 2023 • 10:07:35am

re: #338 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I was trying to be more inclusive.

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sizzzzlerz  Jan 20, 2023 • 10:08:22am

re: #337 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Offhand, I’d say Mexican.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2023 • 10:08:45am

re: #337 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

The GOP just proposed new restrictions on the types of food eligible for purchase with SNAP benefits, putting even more pressure on families with children.

In addition, they would aim to keep families with more than one vehicle from receiving help.

The government needs to place similar restrictions on banks and other businesses that get bailed out: how much they can spend on things like executive salaries, bonuses and benefits, etc. Because, after all, it’s TAXPAYER money, right?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 20, 2023 • 10:09:22am

re: #341 Belafon

I think the thing about the cheese is they only want people buying cheese blocks.

Might be more economical buying a block. And, technically, is American cheese actually cheese?

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jeffreyw  Jan 20, 2023 • 10:42:28am

re: #339 The Pie Overlord!

A cinnamon bun painted by Georgia O’Keeffe.

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austin_blue  Jan 20, 2023 • 11:20:36am

re: #100 Crush White Nationalism

It appears that they were left in their sensitive positions for a long time before being arrested.

Even Ft. Meade has personnel that burn shredded documents for a living.

Just because they work there doesn’t mean they have TS (or higher!) access.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 20, 2023 • 4:29:08pm

re: #226 Shropshire Slasher

lol, they won’t repeal the income tax, we will just get both.

VAT works a bit differently than the Fair Tax proposals since they tax all along the production chain as compared to just something added at the final sale step.

The Fair Tax proposals are all very tax-free on business purchases. And the obvious loopholes and places for abuse are there to see. And really obvious who will be screwed over by the move to this tax method.

The “fix” for low income people by giving them a credit (or something to that effect) is simply a fig leaf. Adjustments to it to handle inflation or other economic changes would, given current experience with legislation regarding minimum wage and tax code, lag horribly behind such changes.


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