Saturday Science: How Much of the Universe Can Humanity Ever See?

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There’s an absolute limit to our access to the universe beyond our own galaxy. There’s a limit to what we can ever hope to explore or send signals to, and a very different limit to what we can ever hope to witness. Today we’re going to explore the latter. We’re going to figure out the absolute limit of our future view of the universe, and of the universe’s ability to influence us. Next time we’ll turn it around and ask: how much of the external universe can WE potentially influence, and even explore?

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BigPapa  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:09:24am

I just realized we have a ‘both wear the same shirt’ marriage. She’s cute so I’ll put up with it.

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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:10:11am
We’re going to figure out the absolute limit of our future view of the universe

Lemme get my glasses on…

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jeffreyw  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:13:30am

re: #2 wrenchwench

Lemme get my glasses on…

Careful, it may be an elaborate rick-roll.

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BigPapa  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:14:50am

re: #3 jeffreyw

Careful, it may be an elaborate rick-roll.

(considers my wife may be Rick Rolling me)

(spooky music)

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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:18:38am

re: #4 BigPapa

(considers my wife may be Rick Rolling me)

(spooky music)

You’re the Hubbie Horizon.

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retired cynic  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:23:50am

U2’s Adam Clayton: Guitarist, rock god and visionary gardener
countrylife.co.uk

A different look!

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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:25:48am
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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:37:25am
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jaunte  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:37:41am

I perceive subjectively that my local volume has been expanding since the mid-1950s, but this presentation convinces me that my atomic structure is much more diffuse than I realized.

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jaunte  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:38:59am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:39:12am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Sir Terry Pratchett explains the reasoning behind the question in

The Truth

A lie can travel halfway around the world before truth can tie it’s shoes. A well known quote.

But did you know that the dwarves can turn lead into gold? A movable type (with the letter made from lead) create the first newspaper that runs everysiee of an argument to make everyone happy and rakes in the cash.

Confrontation made money by getting eyes and clicks — but you knew that tidbit.

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jaunte  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:39:53am

I hope the Lords of Dark Matter don’t decide to clean up all this baryonic foam.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:41:23am

re: #13 jaunte

I hope the Lords of Dark Matter don’t decide to clean up all this baryonic foam.

I’m binging The Flashh right now — that quote strikes a chord.

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jaunte  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:42:48am

re: #14 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I was reading Stephen Baxter’s Vacuum Diagrams last night.

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BigPapa  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:44:54am

Silicon Valley is so good.

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jaunte  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:48:22am

GOP fury grows over inability to escape self-constructed trap.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:51:20am

re: #15 jaunte

I was reading Stephen Baxter’s Vacuum Diagrams last night.

Thanks for the tip. New collection to read.

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jaunte  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:52:39am
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Nerdy Fish  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:54:02am

re: #19 jaunte

“Next week’s Trump campaign rally will have to be rescheduled, as our favorite President is going on trial in Georgia this week.”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:54:31am

re: #19 jaunte

If true, I’m not sure I can handle to schadenfraude. Nah, I’ll cope.

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jaunte  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:56:26am

GOP mad scientist: “Let’s see what happens when I turn our primary voters into a personality cult!”

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William Lewis  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:58:35am

For every vet here, I can guarantee you have memories of the APC in this video…

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Dave In Austin  Apr 1, 2023 • 11:59:22am

Captain! Off the Starboard Bow!

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Joe Bacon  Apr 1, 2023 • 12:07:14pm

Wonton soup at Chi Dynasty on Hillhurst Los Angeles

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2023 • 12:08:18pm

re: #25 Joe Bacon

That looks good and I am not a big Chinese food fan.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2023 • 12:16:09pm
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steve_davis  Apr 1, 2023 • 12:17:23pm

re: #26 PhillyPretzel

That looks good and I am not a big Chinese food fan.

it reminds me that I haven’t had egg-drop soup in a goodly while, and I’m rather fond of it when I”ve dropped the crispy noodles in to soak for just a minute.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2023 • 12:20:48pm
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BigPapa  Apr 1, 2023 • 12:30:25pm

I still lurk at the Twatter. The wingnuts are extra apoplectic. More than they usually are.

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2023 • 12:30:31pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 1, 2023 • 12:30:37pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

When is musk going to blame all the problems with twitter on the Jews?

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2023 • 12:31:48pm

re: #31 Belafon

Is that an April Fool’s Day joke? It looks like it.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 1, 2023 • 12:37:52pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

If it turns out to be a prank…well, everything else the dude has done has been so coherent with the supposed “foolish” idea that it doesn’t exactly gloss as surprising or funny.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 1, 2023 • 12:40:43pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

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No Malarkey!  Apr 1, 2023 • 12:42:36pm

re: #11 jaunte

[Embedded content]

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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2023 • 12:43:53pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

You’re already woke, libtard.

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retired cynic  Apr 1, 2023 • 12:45:31pm

How to find STEVE, the purple streak that looks like an aurora but isn’t
Scientists say there could be good opportunities to spot STEVE in the night sky as solar activity increases over the next few years
wapo.st (gift link)

I’m starting on my gifted WaPo articles early this month! I’ve never seen STEVE, and have only rarely seen an aurora (when I was a child and we vacationed in northern Wisconsin each summer), but this is spectacular!

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Dave In Austin  Apr 1, 2023 • 12:46:22pm

re: #31 Belafon

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Joe Bacon  Apr 1, 2023 • 12:46:49pm

re: #32 I Would Prefer Not To

When is musk going to blame all the problems with twitter on the Jews?

I see the usual gang of assholes ganging up on Soros

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2023 • 12:52:50pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

You think there’s any Twitter staff still
working weekends?

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BigPapa  Apr 1, 2023 • 1:04:35pm

The thought of Joe in a bowling shirt tossing back PBRs and arguing with Walter about marking it zero.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2023 • 1:07:06pm

re: #42 BigPapa

The thought of Joe in a bowling shirt tossing back PBRs and arguing with Walter about marking it zero.

“C’mon man. It’s just a game.”

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No Malarkey!  Apr 1, 2023 • 1:32:12pm

Interesting article.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2023 • 1:33:55pm

re: #44 No Malarkey!

You had me going for a minute, there.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2023 • 1:34:32pm

Mastodon

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Captain Magic  Apr 1, 2023 • 1:36:19pm

I saw the first three episodes of ‘The Power” on Amazon Prime Video.

It’s good.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 1, 2023 • 1:38:29pm

Everything Bannon is involved in is shit.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 1, 2023 • 1:49:56pm

Alex Jones blew InfoWars fortune on cyrogenic freezing and guns

alternet.org

Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones used his InfoWars fortune to acquire a $4,000 cryogenic freezing chamber, more than $100,000 in guns and an array of luxury items, according to a report from the Daily Beast.

The details were contained in a Thursday filing in a Texas bankruptcy court. The filing revealed that Jones’ wealth includes “roughly $54,000 in watches and cufflinks and a fleet of three boats valued at more than $100,000,” the Daily Beast reported Saturday.

“But while the filing offers a glimpse into how Jones spent the millions of dollars he earned by pushing conspiracy theories, it’s not clear that it presents an accurate portrait of his wealth,” the Daily Beast reported.

“Thursday’s filing came after a judge required Jones to submit more accurate financials, revealing $4.8 million in undisclosed assets for a total wealth of $14.7 million.

“And while Jones enjoys a wealthy lifestyle through InfoWars, the disclosures don’t explain how Jones could have comparatively few assets when compared to his even larger InfoWars salary. In 2019, for example, Jones reported $36 million on his tax filing. That number grew in 2021 and 2022, with Jones reporting roughly $38 million in income each of those years.

“In his new filing, Jones claims that he doesn’t own any stocks or bonds, and has just a little more than $200,000 in bank accounts.”

But the report pointed out that “the most interesting item on Jones’ new asset list may be a CRYONiQbrand cryogenic-freezing chamber estimated to be worth $4,000. The company promises to give users “the coldest experience,” blasting their bodies with frigid temperatures.

Jones’ collection of 54 guns is valued at $101,261, the filing stated. It included an acknowledgment that he’s holding on to guns owned by two Jan. 6 Capitol riot defendants as they face prosecution.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 1, 2023 • 1:52:50pm

re: #49 Joe Bacon

Alex Jones blew InfoWars fortune on cyrogenic freezing and guns

alternet.org

Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones used his InfoWars fortune to acquire a $4,000 cryogenic freezing chamber, more than $100,000 in guns and an array of luxury items, according to a report from the Daily Beast.

The details were contained in a Thursday filing in a Texas bankruptcy court. The filing revealed that Jones’ wealth includes “roughly $54,000 in watches and cufflinks and a fleet of three boats valued at more than $100,000,” the Daily Beast reported Saturday.

“But while the filing offers a glimpse into how Jones spent the millions of dollars he earned by pushing conspiracy theories, it’s not clear that it presents an accurate portrait of his wealth,” the Daily Beast reported.

“Thursday’s filing came after a judge required Jones to submit more accurate financials, revealing $4.8 million in undisclosed assets for a total wealth of $14.7 million.

“And while Jones enjoys a wealthy lifestyle through InfoWars, the disclosures don’t explain how Jones could have comparatively few assets when compared to his even larger InfoWars salary. In 2019, for example, Jones reported $36 million on his tax filing. That number grew in 2021 and 2022, with Jones reporting roughly $38 million in income each of those years.

“In his new filing, Jones claims that he doesn’t own any stocks or bonds, and has just a little more than $200,000 in bank accounts.”

But the report pointed out that “the most interesting item on Jones’ new asset list may be a CRYONiQbrand cryogenic-freezing chamber estimated to be worth $4,000. The company promises to give users “the coldest experience,” blasting their bodies with frigid temperatures.

Jones’ collection of 54 guns is valued at $101,261, the filing stated. It included an acknowledgment that he’s holding on to guns owned by two Jan. 6 Capitol riot defendants as they face prosecution.

Prolly spends it all on Hookers and Blow

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BigPapa  Apr 1, 2023 • 1:55:05pm

Who would win in POS Thunderdome: Guo or Jones?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 1, 2023 • 1:55:23pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

I feel like there’s a falsity to how people want to talk about the threat of algorithms/LLMs/AI only in terms of grand peril—

evil thinking machines! human thought irrelevant!

—when the actual threat is that these devices will be folded into an existing system that looks to devalue individual labor as much as possible, and cut corners to achieve an “efficiency” that makes life generally worse but does the job cheaply.

The future ChatGPT promises is…endless mediocrity, with the occasional cultural flair when a machine can be made to confidently say something human beings want said as a pretext to do something awful.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2023 • 1:56:38pm

re: #51 BigPapa

Who would win in POS Thunderdome: Guo or Jones?

Ideally they would annihilate each other, but I’d say Guo.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Apr 1, 2023 • 1:57:14pm

Fantastic! Why wasn’t this around when my kids were this age?


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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 1, 2023 • 1:59:32pm

So. We all know about boomerang babbies. The sprogs that return to live in the parents house.

Now. I have lived the life of a boomerang birb babbie that won’t leave the nest. I have a pair of native (not the icky euro-sparrows, though I have a shit-ton of those) sparrows (they nest on to of the bird boxes on my porch) that hatch at least three clutches every spring. This round has a babbie that keeps returning to the nest. My cats live to watch the story.

The picture is not great, but this birb keeps coming back.

Birb that won’t leave the nest.
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No Malarkey!  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:00:33pm

Elmo acting very Trumpy

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:03:11pm

re: #56 No Malarkey!

I really wonder how long he can get away with just not paying people.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:05:50pm

re: #57 Eclectic Cyborg

I really wonder how long he can get away with just not paying people.

Brings back memories of how Jack Tramille ran Commodore endlessly stiffing suppliers…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:14:19pm

The other problem with “AI” is basically this guy:

These big algorithms require training. The ones we see being shown off have experienced curation so that they don’t feature anything that would make them problematic and thus a bad buy for your commercial purposes. There’s literal sweatshops of people tagging shit so image generators don’t sample too much gore or sex; ChatGPT is curated so that it doesn’t end up like Tay, echoing back whatever vile shit internet trolls train it to say.

But if we cede tasks to these systems, then the results they can produce are limited by their training…then it’s absolutely necessary to be able to examine both the intentions of the people running the training, and the dataset used to train.

For a lot of people, the mystique of AI is it’s most valuable trait; it’s the box that shits disinterested objectivity, it can’t make human errors…but in reality it’s just a pattern recognition system, and the people controlling such an algorithm are already tweaking what correlates to what. AI can’t create objectivity, it can only shift the subjectivity behind a facade, where it’s curation of already-subjective information is shaped by a small number of people who most likely have material incentives to bend the results.

Letting AI curates themselves, or train other AI, doesn’t resolve this problem, since a day-one choice about what the system correlates will just replicate, and falsities in the training set will simply be treated as “valid” because the system only sees correlation.

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mmmirele  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:14:38pm

Well, I spent two hours meeting a couple of cats this morning, and I will bring them home tomorrow. They are siblings, 11 months old, described as brown tabbies. The boy kitty (currently named Snickers, I want to change this name) took about a half hour to get used to me, but then came out to play with me and let me pet him. The girl kitty (currently named Skittles, we are also changing her name*) was very shy and kept looking at me and only a couple of times got close to me. Then I went over to the rescue and filled out the paperwork and bought some stuff for the cats. I plan on picking up the cats tomorrow.

* I really don’t want my cats named after junk food. So thinking of Japanese names, something like Fuji for the boy kitty and Sakura for the girl kitty.

So that’s how I spent my morning. Now I’m exhausted.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:24:14pm

re: #60 mmmirele

When the kitties arrive, there must be pictures. I don’t make the rules.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:25:39pm

oh darn. I just noticed a couple of black specks on my TV. I took a closer look and I noticed they were black LEDs. So far my TV is okay. Should I be concerned and start looking for a new TV or not?

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:26:15pm

re: #54 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

re: #39 Dave In Austin

re: #31 Belafon

Hmmm which if perhaps not all are AI image pranks? LOL how are we gonna be able to tell?

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Thanos  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:26:53pm

re: #60 mmmirele

Well, I spent two hours meeting a couple of cats this morning, and I will bring them home tomorrow. They are siblings, 11 months old, described as brown tabbies. The boy kitty (currently named Snickers, I want to change this name) took about a half hour to get used to me, but then came out to play with me and let me pet him. The girl kitty (currently named Skittles, we are also changing her name*) was very shy and kept looking at me and only a couple of times got close to me. Then I went over to the rescue and filled out the paperwork and bought some stuff for the cats. I plan on picking up the cats tomorrow.

* I really don’t want my cats named after junk food. So thinking of Japanese names, something like Fuji for the boy kitty and Sakura for the girl kitty.

So that’s how I spent my morning. Now I’m exhausted.

Sunikka
Sukittoru

That’s what I got when I ran “snicker” and “skittle” through an English-Japanese machine translator.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:27:09pm

re: #62 PhillyPretzel

oh darn. I just noticed a couple of black specks on my TV. I took a closer look and I noticed they were black LEDs. So far my TV is okay. Should I be concerned and start looking for a new TV or not?

Looking? Sure. Concerned? Nah.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:27:31pm

Now this is an April Fools event I really want to happen!

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:31:57pm

re: #65 Rightwingconspirator

I will wait for the TV to go “pouf” before I buy a new one.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:32:57pm

TweetDeck’s foray into April 1st?
Apparently labeling the GIF button JIF

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:34:14pm

Oh sh*t. The Weather Story for Philly is not good.
weather.gov

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:38:50pm

forecast.weather.gov

Tornado Watch and a Wind Advisory. It is not a good thing.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:39:37pm

re: #70 PhillyPretzel

forecast.weather.gov

Tornado Watch and a Wind Advisory. It is not a good thing.

Stay safe, scaly friend.

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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:40:14pm

re: #70 PhillyPretzel

forecast.weather.gov

Tornado Watch and a Wind Advisory. It is not a good thing.

Do I detect redundancy?

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:42:04pm

Fishfolk are discussing a tornado that hit back home in fish country, in a town called Swayzee, in central Indiana. It sounds like the town was mostly destroyed.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:45:41pm

re: #72 wrenchwench

Grammatically possible. This is how the Nat’l Weather Service writes their forecasts. There is always an element of redundancy in them.

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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:50:59pm

re: #74 PhillyPretzel

Grammatically possible. This is how the Nat’l Weather Service writes their forecasts. There is always an element of redundancy in them.

That’s right. Here it’s always Chance of showers, then showers. Or Showers, then showers likely.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:51:52pm

Wind and tornadoes are two separate (albeit related) weather phenomena.

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BigPapa  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:53:52pm

You have a 50% chance of being eaten by a bear. Either you will or you won’t. Small possibility it’s a cocaine bear.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:55:42pm
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Dave In Austin  Apr 1, 2023 • 2:56:32pm

The legendary Lake Travis was on its game today. 3 guys fishing. 35-40 to the boat in 4 hrs.
The post spawn hungeries have started.

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Jay C  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:01:02pm

re: #79 Dave In Austin

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The legendary Lake Travis was on its game today. 3 guys fishing. 35-40 to the boat in 4 hrs.
The post spawn hungeries have started.

Zat u Dave?

What species is that (besides likely a delicious one)?
Stocked?

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steve_davis  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:10:36pm

re: #60 mmmirele

Well, I spent two hours meeting a couple of cats this morning, and I will bring them home tomorrow. They are siblings, 11 months old, described as brown tabbies. The boy kitty (currently named Snickers, I want to change this name) took about a half hour to get used to me, but then came out to play with me and let me pet him. The girl kitty (currently named Skittles, we are also changing her name*) was very shy and kept looking at me and only a couple of times got close to me. Then I went over to the rescue and filled out the paperwork and bought some stuff for the cats. I plan on picking up the cats tomorrow.

* I really don’t want my cats named after junk food. So thinking of Japanese names, something like Fuji for the boy kitty and Sakura for the girl kitty.

So that’s how I spent my morning. Now I’m exhausted.

Yes, Jesse was Lucky for several years before I arrived. Fuck that. I’m not having a black cat named Lucky. That’s like having one of those upper arm barbed-wire tattoos.

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darthstar  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:12:19pm

Mastodon

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:14:45pm

Planck Stars. Not new but gaining attention as a sort of anti-idol idol group.

プランクスターズ - 君にバイブスを(MUSIC VIDEO)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:18:38pm

Watch, he gets banned because he didn’t fork over the $8

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sizzzzlerz  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:19:09pm

re: #79 Dave In Austin

[Embedded content]

The legendary Lake Travis was on its game today. 3 guys fishing. 35-40 to the boat in 4 hrs.
The post spawn hungeries have started.

So, any of ‘em stuffed with lead weights or is that more of an Ohio thing?

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Acemarilllion (yes, three 'l's)  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:20:07pm

‘60 Minutes’ Interview With Marjorie Taylor Greene Prompts Backlash

Sigh.

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sizzzzlerz  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:20:53pm

re: #84 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Watch, he gets banned because he didn’t fork over the $8

The house built on the bloody corpses of little school children.

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William Lewis  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:24:06pm

For the science thread:

Evolution is often about trade offs. In this case, protection against a deadly disease causes early death from kidney failure. A thread:

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:30:02pm

re: #88 William Lewis

Nature is a tinkerer, not a designer.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:32:46pm

re: #80 Jay C

Largemouth Bass. Natural reproduction. A lot of the fish today are the first wave of the spawning beds. They are aggressive and hungry. And all are also still alive.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:32:58pm

Good thread, might be later additions

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:33:26pm

re: #90 Dave In Austin

Largemouth Bass. Natural reproduction. A lot of the fish today are the first wave of the spawning beds. They are aggressive and hungry. And all are also still alive.

I hope they’ve learned a lesson.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:35:02pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:37:11pm

re: #89 Romantic Heretic

Nature is a tinkerer, not a designer.

And Nature is generally fine with you dying due to an “advantageous adaption” if it kills you after you have reproduced and passed those genes on.

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William Lewis  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:37:25pm

re: #93 Barefoot Grin

Yep. Wisconsin was severely damaged by those reverse carpet baggers in the Fox River Valley and especially in Waukesha County.

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William Lewis  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:37:40pm

re: #94 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And Nature is generally fine with you dying due to an “advantageous adaption” if it kills you after you have reproduced and passed those genes on.

This.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:39:18pm

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:40:45pm
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BigPapa  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:42:01pm

Omg Joe!

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:44:48pm

re: #95 William Lewis

Yep. Wisconsin was severely damaged by those reverse carpet baggers in the Fox River Valley and especially in Waukesha County.

It’s weird in some cases. The map shows one specific county in northern Vermont near adjacent to the Canadian border. I wonder if there was a spill over.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:49:58pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:50:49pm

re: #100 Barefoot Grin

It’s weird in some cases. The map shows one specific county in northern Vermont near adjacent to the Canadian border. I wonder if there was a spill over.

Looks like they didn’t care for Utah.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:51:45pm

re: #102 wrenchwench

Looks like they didn’t care for Utah.

The Mormons were pretty tough by the time they made it out there, from what I’ve heard.

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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:53:43pm

re: #103 Barefoot Grin

The Mormons were pretty tough by the time they made it out there, from what I’ve heard.

Tough, as in, drove them away, or were blatantly being of a different branch of religion?

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:54:46pm

Winds are picking up and the rain is coming down.
weather.gov
Hail too

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:58:24pm

re: #104 wrenchwench

Tough, as in, drove them away, or were blatantly being of a different branch of religion?

Don’t trust me, but I think the former informed by the latter. I remember years ago reading that the groups that finally made it to Utah were pretty militant toward any outsiders, esp. the US government. Could be misremembering. They went through some harrowing stuff on the western Illinois border.

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sagehen  Apr 1, 2023 • 3:58:46pm

re: #79 Dave In Austin

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The legendary Lake Travis was on its game today. 3 guys fishing. 35-40 to the boat in 4 hrs.
The post spawn hungeries have started.

35 fish? Or 35 pounds of fish? Or 35 kilograms of fish?

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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2023 • 4:05:00pm

re: #106 Barefoot Grin

Don’t trust me, but I think the former informed by the latter. I remember years ago reading that the groups that finally made it to Utah were pretty militant toward any outsiders, esp. the US government. Could be misremembering.

The map says 1940. That’s 80 years after they had to quit polygamy, so ….all I can do is speculate. I suspect religious bigotry on the part of the Southern whites who were moving.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 1, 2023 • 4:06:52pm

Fishfolk picked up a card game called Taco Cat Goat Cheese Pizza for us to play as a family. It’s crazy chaos and SO much fun. If you like high-speed card games with a little bit of physicality, this is a game for you.

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teleskiguy  Apr 1, 2023 • 4:06:57pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 1, 2023 • 4:06:58pm

re: #108 wrenchwench

The map says 1940. That’s 80 years after they had to quit polygamy, so ….all I can do is speculate. I suspect religious bigotry on the part of the Southern whites who were moving.

That makes sense. I was thinking of the early 1900s diaspora, but either way, I’m sure they had decided that they had to protect themselves from through bigotry against bigots.

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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2023 • 4:07:05pm

re: #108 wrenchwench

The map says 1940. That’s 80 years after they had to quit polygamy, so ….all I can do is speculate. I suspect religious bigotry on the part of the Southern whites who were moving.

I’m always suspecting bigotry. What does that make me?

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 1, 2023 • 4:09:43pm

re: #112 wrenchwench

I’m always suspecting bigotry. What does that make me?

Realist?

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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2023 • 4:11:50pm

re: #113 Barefoot Grin

Realist?

Yep. Reality-biased. Hanging out with my fellow selectively-tolerant.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2023 • 4:17:45pm

It seems to have quieted down a bit and so far my house is still in one piece sort of speak.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2023 • 4:25:39pm

lol Amazon is now telling me my packages are 10 stops away. I think they were waiting for the storm to go through.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 1, 2023 • 4:43:03pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 1, 2023 • 4:44:12pm

re: #117 No Malarkey!

This is what leads them to want teenagers. And foreign women they mistakenly think will be docile.

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William Lewis  Apr 1, 2023 • 4:49:10pm

re: #117 No Malarkey!

Silly incel, that’s why you can’t get laid and even your hand doesn’t like taking care of you.

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BigPapa  Apr 1, 2023 • 4:51:57pm

re: #107 sagehen

35 fish? Or 35 pounds of fish? Or 35 kilograms of fish?

33 feral hogs of fish, or 2.4 giraffes. Like, duh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2023 • 4:56:20pm
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No Malarkey!  Apr 1, 2023 • 4:59:30pm
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retired cynic  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:00:07pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

ROFL.

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(((Archangel1)))  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:01:15pm

In Israel RN. Photos from a local pro-democracy rally that drew in a few thousand:

The “Handmaids” marched this week without their bonnets to symbolize that they’re unafraid of facing those who would strip away their rights.

No shortage of rainbow flags and LGBTQ+ representation at these protests, and while PLO flags have a lot of historical baggage, there’s also no shortage of Arab rights advocates. The general view is that attack on one is attack on all.

In case it wasn’t obvious by this point, the pro-democracy faction has pretty much claimed the Israeli flag as its battle banner. The number of rally-goers with flags outnumbers those without significantly. When they wanted to do an overhead shot to record all the simultaneous protests in different cities chanting “democracy” at the same time, they had to tell folks to put the flags down so the people would actually be visible.

…And for the first time after 12 weeks of protests, supporters of the government’s judicial overhaul decided to show up right after the pro-democracy rally ended.
In small and ugly fashion.
After weeks of calling out protesters for blocking streets and harassing drivers, about 200 government supporters dressed in black showed up and proceeded to block the main street, loudly confront folks leaving the rally, and harass and threaten uninvolved residents along the way. Police teams intervened to stop potential violence, and they scattered after an hour and a half of loud chanting.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:02:31pm

re: #92 Barefoot Grin

I hope they’ve learned a lesson.

Until tomorrow……

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:02:42pm

For those who are interested Rick Steves Art of Europe. Hit the live button to watch it with me.
whyy.org

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Dave In Austin  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:07:57pm

re: #107 sagehen

35 fish? Or 35 pounds of fish? Or 35 kilograms of fish?

Fish… The largest was about 3.5 lbs.

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BigPapa  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:10:06pm

re: #127 Dave In Austin

What is your favorite way to cook le bass?

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retired cynic  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:11:57pm

re: #126 PhillyPretzel

I have tried, but I am outside any PBS area. They ask for location, then choose a station, then tell me I am outside a station’s viewing area.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:13:19pm

re: #129 retired cynic

I am sorry to hear that. I guess PBS put limits on what can be shown on the internet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:13:59pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:15:05pm

Mastodon

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Teukka  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:15:58pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:16:27pm

My temporary stay in assisted living has led to my losing track of time. Here I was, thinking 60 Minutes was on tonight when it suddenly dawned on me that it was Saturday and I would have to wait till tomorrow to learn about how much of a fiasco the MTG interview has turned out to be.

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BigPapa  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:18:53pm

I’m on a mission to find a Japanese language TV app that plays in Hawaii. The best one is Isakura TV which only plays on an utter POS $100 streaming box that always needs to be rebooted. Worse than cable boxes.

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BigPapa  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:20:26pm

I’ve been noticing Chump is rarely trending on Twatter. Wondered if they’re trying to keep it on the DL.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:21:26pm

Mastodon

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Dave In Austin  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:25:54pm

re: #128 BigPapa

When I eat bass ( not very often), I release them to the grease….

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jaunte  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:26:25pm

Mastodon

Even if Trump is gagged he has plenty of parrots to squawk incessantly and carry on.

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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:28:30pm

re: #133 Teukka

“Transtifa,” on the other hand, is trending.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:31:05pm
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Teukka  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:31:47pm

re: #140 The GOP is a Terrorist Organization

“Transtifa,” on the other hand, is trending.

JFC…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:32:23pm
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darthstar  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:32:27pm

Progress…

Before pic

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:34:03pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

There was a lot of lightning and thunder in Philly too.

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darthstar  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:34:53pm

Doors and drawer fronts are getting painted on Monday at the shop. They’re all numbered and shit so he’ll bring them back and reinstall them in their original places. Hopefully the texture guy comes in to mud the wall where we took out the slider on Monday, and then Wednesday they’ll finish the kitchen and Thursday-Friday they’ll paint the living room.

Saturday I cook. Sunday is Easter brunch for 17.

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darthstar  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:35:42pm

Streaming Marshall Tucker Band on Alexa right now. I’ll give the echo credit…she pulls out some deep tracks.

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jaunte  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:39:47pm

re: #146 darthstar

Just reading your timeline is making me nervous.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:39:55pm

Am-AZING

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No Malarkey!  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:43:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:44:02pm
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sagehen  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:46:42pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

did it land on its feet?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:47:53pm

re: #144 darthstar

Looks good… but that little jagged tooth jutting out from the counter looks like trouble.

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mmmirele  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:53:22pm

re: #61 Nerdy Fish

When the kitties arrive, there must be pictures. I don’t make the rules.

I’ll share these from the rescue now.

Snickers / Fuji
Skittles / Sakura

Snickers/Fuji has a beautiful brown/black ticked coat, while Skittles/Sakura’s coat is lighter/grayish. They’re not quite fully grown. Snickers/Fuji is quite sleek and he likes pets. Skittles/Sakura is shy now, hopefully that will improve.

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jeffreyw  Apr 1, 2023 • 5:56:29pm

re: #144 darthstar

Progress…

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Before, before ..you whack Tommy?

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darthstar  Apr 1, 2023 • 6:02:15pm

re: #148 jaunte

Just reading your timeline is making me nervous.

Having a contractor who lives three blocks away and rallies his subcontractors for a 10 day turnover by Easter Sunday doesn’t suck. He even replaced the ceiling can lights with LED halos that will last 22 years.

re: #153 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Looks good… but that little jagged tooth jutting out from the counter looks like trouble.

That’s just where the counter sticks out for the dishwasher…it’s a fairly gentle angle.

re: #155 jeffreyw

Before, before ..you whack Tommy?

What did Tommy ever do to me?

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Semper Fi  Apr 1, 2023 • 7:02:41pm

re: #144 darthstar

Progress…

[Embedded content]

Mind if ask, what color is that? Looks good like a nice shade of green.


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