Maddow: Radical Right Wing Mass Violence Sits Dangerously Close to Republican Politics

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Rachel Maddow, joined by Kathleen Belew, an expert on the white power movement in the United States, looks at the interconnectedness of radical, right-wing mass killings and Republican politics under Donald Trump that has embraced some of the same ideology.

#msnbc #republicans #rightwing

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1
Teukka  May 9, 2023 • 10:45:38am
2
simply✅  May 9, 2023 • 10:46:54am

Elon Musk is living proof that all the money in the world will never change the fact that if you are an asshole, then you will be an asshole, regardless of your bankroll.

3
🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 9, 2023 • 10:51:13am

re: #2 nines09

Elon Musk is living proof that all the money in the world will never change the fact that if you are an asshole, then you will be an asshole, regardless of your bankroll.

It prevents the slapdown by life that can make an asshole realize that they’re the asshole and need to change. See Trump, Donald for another example.

4
Charles Johnson  May 9, 2023 • 10:53:33am
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No Malarkey!  May 9, 2023 • 10:54:09am

At this point, rightwing mass violence is Republican politics.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 9, 2023 • 10:58:15am

re: #5 No Malarkey!

At this point, rightwing mass violence is Republican politics.

But it doesn’t stop Republicans and their 24/7 Bullshit Machine from endlessly reciting the lie that the KKK is still run by Democrats.

7
Joe Bacon ✅  May 9, 2023 • 11:01:55am

KKKrazy KKKari went there!

‘A globalist network’: Kari Lake goes scorched earth and burns bridges with Fox News live on air

alternet.org

Former Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake recently took aim at Fox News live on-air describing the news outlet as a “globalist network.”

The far-right political figure’s remarks came during her recent appearance on “Piers Morgan Uncensored” on Monday, May 8.

By the way that lying asshole claims that nobody is safe walking the streets in Los Angeles during the day. But I walk to my gym and back every day and I’m not afraid at all.

8
Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 9, 2023 • 11:02:25am

re: #419 nines09

I recall someone saying that after we are gone, they will dig up buried McDonalds and suggest Ronald was a deity and some type of sacrifices were held there where meat was shared and eaten. A temple, so to speak.

A canticle for liebowitz

26th century religion based on finding a 20th century shopping list in fallout shelter

9
Teukka  May 9, 2023 • 11:04:52am

Gentlemen, gentle ladies, gentlethem, AFP lost one of theirs:

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 9, 2023 • 11:04:53am

re: #2 nines09

Elon Musk is living proof that all the money in the world will never change the fact that if you are an asshole, then you will be an asshole, regardless of your bankroll.

I used to teach: personalities don’t change when they get wet.
Underwater, as your buddy, your boyfriend will still be an asshole

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ericblair  May 9, 2023 • 11:10:29am

re: #2 nines09

Elon Musk is living proof that all the money in the world will never change the fact that if you are an asshole, then you will be an asshole, regardless of your bankroll.

Even more, more money means more constraints removed on your behavior. People who would have told a poor or normal person to shut the fuck up and ignored their ignorant ass will suck up to a rich guy saying the same thing. And rich guy doesn’t understand that he’s not any smarter, just richer.

Now, when you’re reading a tweet and replies, you have to scroll down quite a ways below all the moronic one-liner blue check replies to get to something worth reading. It’s usually not worth the effort.

12
simply✅  May 9, 2023 • 11:13:07am

It was said Donald Trump was offered a solid gold toilet?
Well, Elon bought a solid gold toilet.
It’s called Twitter.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 9, 2023 • 11:19:36am

re: #12 nines09

It was said Donald Trump was offered a solid gold toilet?
Well, Elon bought a solid gold toilet.
It’s called Twitter.

It’s not a solid gold toilet.

It’s a faux gold outhouse with a moon cut in the front door.

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simply✅  May 9, 2023 • 11:21:18am

re: #11 ericblair

Even more, more money means more constraints removed on your behavior. People who would have told a poor or normal person to shut the fuck up and ignored their ignorant ass will suck up to a rich guy saying the same thing. And rich guy doesn’t understand that he’s not any smarter, just richer.

Now, when you’re reading a tweet and replies, you have to scroll down quite a ways below all the moronic one-liner blue check replies to get to something worth reading. It’s usually not worth the effort.

Elon’s contribution to Twitter.

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simply✅  May 9, 2023 • 11:21:54am

re: #13 Joe Bacon

It’s not a solid gold toilet.

It’s a faux gold outhouse with a moon cut in the front door.

The Art Museum That Offered Donald Trump a Solid Gold Toilet

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 9, 2023 • 11:22:59am

re: #15 nines09

The Art Museum That Offered Donald Trump a Solid Gold Toilet

Is the seat heated and is there a built in bidet?

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simply✅  May 9, 2023 • 11:24:21am

re: #9 Teukka

You have to have stones to carry a camera in a war zone. PRESS on the front means squat if you are on the other side.

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Captain Ron  May 9, 2023 • 11:26:31am

Glenn Greenwald’s husband died. I don’t have anything nice to say.

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simply✅  May 9, 2023 • 11:26:50am

re: #8 Dangerman

I will check that out. Thank you.

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jaunte  May 9, 2023 • 11:27:37am

re: #2 nines09

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simply✅  May 9, 2023 • 11:27:57am

re: #18 Captain Ron

Glenn Greenwald’s husband died. I don’t have anything nice to say.

I will not speak ill of the deceased, but fuck that guy he married.

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Dr. Matt  May 9, 2023 • 11:31:01am

re: #18 Captain Ron

Glenn Greenwald’s husband died. I don’t have anything nice to say.

x2.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 9, 2023 • 11:32:00am
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sagehen  May 9, 2023 • 11:32:31am

re: #18 Captain Ron

Glenn Greenwald’s husband died. I don’t have anything nice to say.

the article says he’s been in the hospital since last August, but it doesn’t say what he died of. Age 37.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 9, 2023 • 11:33:41am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 9, 2023 • 11:34:03am

re: #15 nines09

The Art Museum That Offered Donald Trump a Solid Gold Toilet

The toilet, named “America” to symbolize American wealth and extravagance, was made by an Italian sculptor with $5 million worth of gold he apparently owned himself, and, after its stay at Guggenheim, was put on display in Blenheim Palace, an enormous and ornate pile built and decorated with slavery profits and the looted treasures of half the world. Self-organized proletarians, ie burglars, caught it up with it there and it has disappeared, apparently for good. Yep, little doubt that crapper went to the scrapper.
British Authorities Scramble To Find Stolen Solid Gold Toilet

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lawhawk  May 9, 2023 • 11:34:38am

re: #24 sagehen

the article says he’s been in the hospital since last August, but it doesn’t say what he died of. Age 37.

Died from some gastrointestinal bug and sepsis.

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simply✅  May 9, 2023 • 11:35:30am

re: #26 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Chefs kiss….

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 9, 2023 • 11:41:02am

re: #6 Joe Bacon

Reply to that: Then you won’t mind we take down all the confederate monuments across the country?

Watch them stroke out.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 9, 2023 • 11:41:23am

Surprisingly, this article on the Bermuda Triangle isn’t insane, but it does admit that this was solved in the 70s.

Pick any one of the more than 50 ships or 20 planes that have disappeared in the Bermuda Triangle in the last century. Each one has a story without an ending, leading to a litany of conspiracy theories about the disappearances in the area, marked roughly by Florida, Bermuda, and the Greater Antilles.

Australian scientist Karl Kruszelnicki, along with the United States’ own National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association (NOAA), don’t subscribe to the Bermuda Triangle’s supernatural reputation. Both have been saying for years that there’s really no Bermuda Triangle mystery. In fact, the loss and disappearance of ships and planes is a mere fact of probabilities.

“There is no evidence that mysterious disappearances occur with any greater frequency in the Bermuda Triangle than in any other large, well-traveled area of the ocean,” NOAA wrote in 2010.

And since 2017, Kruszelnicki has been saying the same thing. He told The Independent that the sheer volume of traffic—in a tricky area to navigate, no less—shows “the number [of ships and planes] that go missing in the Bermuda Triangle is the same as anywhere in the world on a percentage basis.” He says that both Lloyd’s of London and the U.S. Coast Guard support that idea. In fact, as The Independent notes, Lloyd’s of London has had this same theory since the 1970s.

A Scientist Says He’s Solved the Bermuda Triangle, Just Like That (Popular Mechanics)

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jaunte  May 9, 2023 • 11:43:06am
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 9, 2023 • 11:43:10am

re: #19 nines09

I will check that out. Thank you.

one of my favorite books of all times

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simply✅  May 9, 2023 • 11:43:39am

re: #30 Crush White Nationalism

Yes, but what about Lake Michigan Triangle

Michigan has the most lighthouses in the United States.

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Captain Ron  May 9, 2023 • 11:45:32am
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GlutenFreeJesus  May 9, 2023 • 11:47:03am

re: #7 Joe Bacon

Well. It is uncensored. Says so in the name of the show.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 9, 2023 • 11:47:12am

Speaking of looted realms
Military transport aircraft to symbolically fly over the Acropolis
This is a minor story, with three C-130s (one Greek and two US) and a Greek C-27 to overfly the monument as part of some exercise or other.
I was thinking that British transports would probably not be welcome unless they were bringing back the Parthenon (aka Elgin) Marbles, which Greece claims are rightfully theirs, having been bought cheap under very suspicious circumstances in the early 19th century. The British refuse to give them up, claiming that the price was fair and, besides the works are safer in London than at the site where they had suvived for 2200 years before being carted off.

Reminds me of a joke that is apparently common in Greece and India and that I actually heard in Egypt:
“Why aren’t the Pyramids in England?”
“They were too big to fit on a ship.”

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No Malarkey!  May 9, 2023 • 11:47:35am

There is already a verdict in!

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Captain Ron  May 9, 2023 • 11:47:48am
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Nerdy Fish  May 9, 2023 • 11:47:54am

re: #37 No Malarkey!

There is already a verdict in!

Oh God.

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jaunte  May 9, 2023 • 11:48:56am
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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 9, 2023 • 11:50:24am

re: #33 nines09

Yes, but what about Lake Michigan Triangle

Michigan has the most lighthouses in the United States.

For some reason, the article included both sane and insane possible explanations, which they label “natural” and “paranormal.”

Natural
Many of the shipwrecks and ship disappearances in Lake Michigan have been blamed on wind waves. Due to the lake’s elongated shape and position, its shores are parallel and unimpeded, allowing the formation of dangerous currents including riptides and longshore tides. Additionally, the north-south orientation coupled with regular wind patterns allow waves to reach great heights.[7]

Another common theory for the disappearances is magnetic anomalies caused by magnetic declination and magnetic deviation. Declination refers to the difference between true north and magnetic north, which differs depending on location. On average, Lake Michigan deviates four to five degrees westward. Deviations are errors induced in compasses by local magnetic fields. For example, if you were to hold a compass near a magnetic object, the needle would point towards the object instead of magnetic north. Although this would not be a problem in vehicles with other navigational equipment, it could cause confusion to inexperienced sailors and pilots.[7]

Paranormal
Conspiracy theorists have blamed the triangle on a negative energy vortex. Energy vortexes are the idea that certain locations emit sacred, powerful and transformational energy. Although vortexes are typically considered to promote positivity and healing, it’s claimed that vortexes with negative-energy also exist. These locations are purportedly sources of danger and malevolence. Ley lines, areas that intersect ancient structures and landmarks, are often cited as causes of energy vortexes. According to ley line maps, one runs down the middle of Lake Michigan.[7] Others attribute the triangle’s supposed vortex to a prehistoric structure under Lake Michigan discovered by archaeologists in 2007. The site is often referred to as the “North American Stonehenge.”[8]

Others believe the occurrences in the Lake Michigan Triangle are caused by aliens, pointing to UFO sightings as evidence.[8]

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No Malarkey!  May 9, 2023 • 11:50:53am

re: #39 Nerdy Fish

Oh God.

I want to believe this is good news. I don’t see how they could unanimously conclude Trump isn’t liable this fast.

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Dr Lizardo  May 9, 2023 • 11:51:48am

re: #30 Crush White Nationalism

Before I shuffle off to bed, last night, the film Close Encounters of the Third Kind was mentioned in an earlier thread and of course, that film begins with the discovery of Flight 19 - five TBM Avenger torpedo bombers that disappeared over the Bermuda Triangle on 5 December 1945 - in the Sonoran Desert, creating one of the finest opening sequences in almost any sci-fi film. And the fate of Flight 19 is a huge part of the so-called “Bermuda Triangle mystery”, probably one of the most famous incidents that comes up in any discussion of the Bermuda Triangle.

The only real mystery regarding Flight 19 is how on earth did they get so hopelessly lost. What was meant to be a simple and routine training flight that almost certainly ended up having to ditch somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean, never to be found

There’s no aliens, or extradimensional portals, or death rays from Atlantis involved on this one. It’s just a tragic case of human error.

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Dr. Matt  May 9, 2023 • 11:53:34am

re: #37 No Malarkey!

There is already a verdict in!

Rhymes with ‘quilty’….?

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Dr Lizardo  May 9, 2023 • 11:53:54am

re: #42 No Malarkey!

I want to believe this is good news. I don’t see how they could unanimously conclude Trump isn’t liable this fast.

When a verdict comes in that fast, it’s either unanimously guilty or unanimously not guilty.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 9, 2023 • 11:54:43am

re: #43 Dr Lizardo

Before I shuffle off to bed, last night, the film Close Encounters of the Third Kind was mentioned in an earlier thread and of course, that film begins with the discovery of Flight 19 - five TBM Avenger torpedo bombers that disappeared over the Bermuda Triangle on 5 December 1945 - in the Sonoran Desert, creating one of the finest opening sequences in almost any sci-fi film. And the fate of Flight 19 is a huge part of the so-called “Bermuda Triangle mystery”, probably one of the most famous incidents that comes up in any discussion of the Bermuda Triangle.

The only real mystery regarding Flight 19 is how on earth did they get so hopelessly lost. What was meant to be a simple and routine training flight that almost certainly ended up having to ditch somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean, never to be found

There’s no aliens, or extradimensional portals, or death rays from Atlantis involved on this one. It’s just a tragic case of human error.

That’s obviously silly to anyone. It’s the Atlantean/Human hybrids that have the death rays.

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jaunte  May 9, 2023 • 11:54:52am

We have only a little more than 11 minutes to speculate!

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sagehen  May 9, 2023 • 11:56:09am

re: #45 Dr Lizardo

When a verdict comes in that fast, it’s either unanimously guilty or unanimously not guilty.

problem is, in a civil case the jury verdict also includes a dollar figure. No way that happens quickly.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 9, 2023 • 11:56:32am

re: #47 jaunte

We have only a little more than 11 minutes to speculate!

It’s going to have to be wild speculation since we have so little time.

Martian mind control rays created a lockstep jury in service of _________________.

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lawhawk  May 9, 2023 • 11:56:36am

They’ll be rendering a verdict so fast it’ll make Trump’s lawyer spin even faster to claim that the fix was in and they’ll appeal when they lose (which is inevitable on the claims, the loss, and the spin).

None of this is surprising. Trump didn’t muster a defense, refused to take the stand, and his lawyers did an awful job of convincing anyone that Trump was anything but a serial sex predator and rapist.

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Dr Lizardo  May 9, 2023 • 11:56:49am

re: #46 Crush White Nationalism

Or maybe Lovecraft wasn’t just writing weird fiction, and it was the Deep Ones all along!!

52
Dave In Austin  May 9, 2023 • 11:57:21am

re: #22 Dr. Matt

x2.

Who is Glenn Greenwald and why should anyone care?
/

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Nerdy Fish  May 9, 2023 • 11:57:48am

re: #48 sagehen

problem is, in a civil case the jury verdict also includes a dollar figure. No way that happens quickly.

Are you sure? I was pretty sure that damages are subject to a separate hearing from the actual liability verdict. That’s how it played out in Alex Jones’s defamation cases, where he defaulted on the liability, and then the trial that was held was on the calculation of damages.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 9, 2023 • 11:58:13am

re: #52 Dave In Austin

Who is Glenn Greenwald and why should anyone care?

A guy who wrote articles about corruption in the 90s. I don’t know what he’s been up to since then.

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No Malarkey!  May 9, 2023 • 11:58:43am

re: #50 lawhawk

They’ll be rendering a verdict so fast it’ll make Trump’s lawyer spin even faster to claim that the fix was in and they’ll appeal when they lose (which is inevitable on the claims, the loss, and the spin).

None of this is surprising. Trump didn’t muster a defense, refused to take the stand, and his lawyers did an awful job of convincing anyone that Trump was anything but a serial sex predator and rapist.

Trump’s videotaped deposition was practically a confession.

56
Unabogie  May 9, 2023 • 11:59:14am

For Greenwald’s husband, I try to extend as much empathy as I can. But given that Glenn lives his life to be as absolutely awful to everyone else as he can, I can only muster a slight shrug. He deserves as many bad things in his life as possible.

57
Joe Bacon ✅  May 9, 2023 • 12:00:55pm

Hurry up with the verdict! OOOOOOOOOO I got another Orville Reddenbacher in the microwave…

58
JC1  May 9, 2023 • 12:01:44pm

re: #56 Unabogie

For Greenwald’s husband, I try to extend as much empathy as I can. But given that Glenn lives his life to be as absolutely awful to everyone else as he can, I can only muster a slight shrug. He deserves as many bad things in his life as possible.

I wish Glenn a speedy reunion with his husband.

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Unabogie  May 9, 2023 • 12:01:50pm

re: #57 Joe Bacon

Hurry up with the verdict! OOOOOOOOOO I got another Orville Reddenbacher in the microwave…

I’ve got a plane to catch. It would be nice to take off with some extra lift ;-)

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 9, 2023 • 12:02:56pm

re: #30 Crush White Nationalism

Surprisingly, this article on the Bermuda Triangle isn’t insane, but it does admit that this was solved in the 70s.

A Scientist Says He’s Solved the Bermuda Triangle, Just Like That (Popular Mechanics)

Arthur C. Clarke’s Mysterious Universe: Squaring the Bermuda Triangle
This episode of Mysterious Universe examined the Bermuda Triangle legend back in the 90s and came to pretty much the same conclusion.
In fact, they performed an experiment that had a Lloyd’s guy toss a dart backward over his shoulder at a map of the world. Wherever it stuck would be the center of a brand new triangle legend that they would create on the spot. It landed in the eastern Atlantic, closest to Casablanca Morocco. They christened it “the Casablanca Triangle” and went looking for mysteries. They found several, including the famous case of the Mary Celeste in 1872, and the death of British oligarch Robert Maxwell, who fell off his yacht and drowned in 1991.

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 9, 2023 • 12:03:42pm
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 9, 2023 • 12:04:27pm

re: #40 jaunte

they got one lunch out of it

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Captain Ron  May 9, 2023 • 12:04:43pm
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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 9, 2023 • 12:05:57pm

re: #60 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Arthur C. Clarke’s Mysterious Universe: Squaring the Bermuda Triangle
This episode of Mysterious Universe examined the Bermuda Triangle legend back in the 90s and came to pretty much the same conclusion.
In fact, they performed an experiment that had a Lloyd’s guy toss a dart backward over his shoulder at a map of the world. Wherever it stuck would be the center of a brand new triangle legend that they would create on the spot. It landed in the eastern Atlantic, closest to Casablanca Morocco. They christened it “the Casablanca Triangle” and went looking for mysteries. They found several, including the famous case of the Mary Celeste in 1872, and the death of British oligarch Robert Maxwell, who fell off his yacht and drowned in 1991.

In Search Of says it’s real. Who are you going to believe AC Clarke or Spock?

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 9, 2023 • 12:06:15pm
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Joe Bacon ✅  May 9, 2023 • 12:08:30pm

Here comes the Jury…

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Unabogie  May 9, 2023 • 12:08:43pm

Before the verdict is read, I’ll go on record and say that of course he did it. He bragged about doing it. 30 women stepped forward to say he did what he said he likes to do. Then he said he wouldn’t have done it to Carroll. Then he mistook her for his wife. He did it.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 9, 2023 • 12:08:52pm

GUILTY

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No Malarkey!  May 9, 2023 • 12:08:57pm
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Joe Bacon ✅  May 9, 2023 • 12:09:14pm

A jury has found that former President Donald Trump raped E. Jean Carroll decades ago and then defamed her by denying it. It took just a little over three hours for the jury to come to a conclusion, which prompted legal experts to speculate it meant the jury agreed Trump was guilty. While the jury said that he didn’t “rape” her, they said she was sexually assaulted and awarded her $2 million.

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jaunte  May 9, 2023 • 12:09:43pm

Republicans will cling to that ‘not proven’ fig leaf.

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No Malarkey!  May 9, 2023 • 12:10:03pm
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jaunte  May 9, 2023 • 12:10:08pm
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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 9, 2023 • 12:10:34pm

re: #70 Joe Bacon

A jury has found that former President Donald Trump raped E. Jean Carroll decades ago and then defamed her by denying it. It took just a little over three hours for the jury to come to a conclusion, which prompted legal experts to speculate it meant the jury agreed Trump was guilty. While the jury said that he didn’t “rape” her, they said she was sexually assaulted and awarded her $2 million.

Does it not count as rape if he just used his stubby little fingers to force himself onto her?

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Teukka  May 9, 2023 • 12:10:36pm

️⚠️️️️CW/TW: SA⚠️

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 9, 2023 • 12:10:52pm

She’s awarded $2 million out of the gate.

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Dave In Austin  May 9, 2023 • 12:11:06pm

Looks like everything BUT Rape.

She’s raking in the cash though.

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jaunte  May 9, 2023 • 12:11:06pm

Too many men on the jury.

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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2023 • 12:11:09pm

Should be a fun town hall at St. Anselm tomorrow night.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 9, 2023 • 12:11:18pm

re: #76 Joe Bacon

She’s awarded $2 million…

Which I’m sure Trump will try to get out of paying.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 9, 2023 • 12:11:33pm

Donald Trump, rapist.

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simply✅  May 9, 2023 • 12:12:03pm

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

Grackles are murderous cousins of Blue Jays. If you witnessed a group of them in mating season, with their strut and dance and bad fan belt/unoiled gears song, it’s a hoot.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 9, 2023 • 12:12:38pm

That’s an indictment and a guilty verdict against TFG in different cases inside of six weeks.

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No Malarkey!  May 9, 2023 • 12:13:11pm

re: #80 Eclectic Cyborg

Which I’m sure Trump will try to get out of paying.

Of course he is going to appeal.


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