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458 comments
1
Charles Johnson  May 15, 2023 • 6:31:04pm
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Belafon  May 15, 2023 • 6:35:18pm

I have a question for any possible engineers, especially the electrical variety. I’m taking a short course at my company on moving target tracking. The big thing I note is that my statistics skills are lacking. I want to improve them, but one of the things I keep noticing in the books I look at is that proper units, say measurements in meters, meters/per second, etc., disappear in the explanations and examples of the problems. I was wondering if anyone has seen a book that does statistics and explains the application to problems including the units?

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No Malarkey!  May 15, 2023 • 6:40:47pm

Since the Biden investigation has sputtered to a halt, perhaps Congress would be interested in investigating these allegations.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 15, 2023 • 6:40:50pm

re: #2 Belafon

Will this help?

link.springer.com

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Belafon  May 15, 2023 • 6:48:08pm

re: #4 Joe Bacon ✅

Will this help?

link.springer.com

That might be interesting, but I’m looking for something more geared to filling in the obvious hole I have regarding probability and statistics.

The guy teaching the class is a master at this stuff, especially Kalman filters. I think the guy sees error ellipses, and can probably only give the 95% probability that the chair we all see is really in the location we think it is

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Captain Ron  May 15, 2023 • 6:49:16pm
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Belafon  May 15, 2023 • 6:50:33pm

Thanks to him, I can code up a Kalman filter, and do a good job on computing and interpreting the results from one. It’s just my math skills, even though they are above average, aren’t quite up to this course.

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Captain Ron  May 15, 2023 • 6:52:20pm
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Charles Johnson  May 15, 2023 • 6:53:48pm
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mmmirele  May 15, 2023 • 6:57:12pm

Real wax candles (as opposed to tallow candles) were expensive. Having one of these gizmos was like having a timer on your candle. “Oops! Party’s over! Go to bed!”

In more serious news, yet another churchy perv discovered…and protected by others. Disgusting.

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teleskiguy  May 15, 2023 • 6:57:18pm
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Captain Ron  May 15, 2023 • 6:57:47pm

Here’s the Samewavelength stream of it.

YouTube

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teleskiguy  May 15, 2023 • 6:57:56pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Chug-a-lug…

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 15, 2023 • 7:02:29pm

One string back:

re: #299 ckkatz

And you thought the rhetoric about Elon Stans thinking that the WEF planning on making them eat bugs was just snark -

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I pitched in early with the Lizardoids, mostly because I found out that it they who saved my ass in Vietnam. Later on, they gave me a farm and a Rolls Royce and a thousand year lifespan. So I am very grateful and have willingly put in a lot of work on their projects, but when they start suggesting that I adopt their diet we are going to part company.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 15, 2023 • 7:03:04pm

re: #10 mmmirele

Cool extinguisher.

When children are put in a position where they think an adult is an authority figure backed by a god, they can be coerced to do anything.

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jaunte  May 15, 2023 • 7:03:56pm

re: #14 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

When they really want us to eat bugs, they’ll turn them into a cheese-flavored powder and spray them on Doritos.

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jaunte  May 15, 2023 • 7:04:32pm

Spicy.

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jaunte  May 15, 2023 • 7:08:52pm

“Who can eat just one, grasshopper?”

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No Malarkey!  May 15, 2023 • 7:11:00pm
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jaunte  May 15, 2023 • 7:19:58pm
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austin_blue  May 15, 2023 • 7:24:15pm

Egg prices are crashing!

This is apparently disastrous for JOE BIDEN!

House Committee finds no evidence that Joe Biden has ever done anything to enrich himself while in politics.

This is also apparently disastrous for JOE BIDEN!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 15, 2023 • 7:25:14pm

re: #6 Captain Ron

It’s happened before. This is an extraordinary story and deserves to be better known. Antwerp, City of Sudden Death.
The Belgian port city of Antwerp, the only fully equipped and operational European port held by the allies in the winter of 1944-1945, was actually the most frequent target for German V-weapons during that period, 4000 V-1s and 1700 V-2s.

Over a period of 175 days, V-weapon attacks killed 3,700 civilians and about 1200 military personnel in Antwerp, with about 25,000 injuries. A single V-2 hit on the Rex Cinema killed 574 people, the deadliest single missile strike in history. Work at the port continued uninterrupted for the entire period.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 15, 2023 • 7:25:43pm
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teleskiguy  May 15, 2023 • 7:29:25pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

The V-2 history is rather horrifying. Namely that it was an effective brand new weapon that had *zero* defense and struck silently and without warning.

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Captain Ron  May 15, 2023 • 7:29:58pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 15, 2023 • 7:33:22pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

I will never understand why this country didn’t put Donald Trump under arrest and in custody on January 7, 2021.

A more obvious clear and present danger is hard to imagine.

Who was going to arrest him on January 7? Someone associated with his DOJ? A DOJ which in any event was following the longstanding policy that a President is immune from prosecution for crimes committed at least until he is no longer in office.

Once Biden took office and staffed his DOJ, I do not know the reasons for the long delay in investigating those senior people, including Trump, involved in the efforts to overthrow our government, as opposed to the foot soldiers who have been facing justice. IANAL and have no ideas of the complications in pursuing this case.

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austin_blue  May 15, 2023 • 7:37:35pm

re: #24 teleskiguy

The V-2 history is rather horrifying. Namely that it was an effective brand new weapon that had *zero* defense and struck silently and without warning.

That is the first line of Tom Pynchon’s Gravity’s Rainbow.

“A screaming comes across the sky.”

The best book of the twentieth century.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 15, 2023 • 7:38:39pm

re: #25 Captain Ron

Well of course Natasha Sinema sold out.

How else could she afford her haute wardrobe?

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retired cynic  May 15, 2023 • 7:39:09pm

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Belafon  May 15, 2023 • 7:39:34pm

re: #10 mmmirele

Real wax candles (as opposed to tallow candles) were expensive. Having one of these gizmos was like having a timer on your candle. “Oops! Party’s over! Go to bed!”

[Embedded content]

All of those people need to be charged as well.

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DodgerFan1988  May 15, 2023 • 7:40:11pm
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austin_blue  May 15, 2023 • 7:43:47pm

re: #31 DodgerFan1988

What the almighty hell is this about?

Soros is determined to destroy Western Civ?

Elon, I’ll accept, but Soros? He’s the guy who wants people to get along.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 15, 2023 • 7:43:59pm

re: #31 DodgerFan1988

It’s because of this.

Musk and Trump have the same personality disorder.

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Belafon  May 15, 2023 • 7:45:32pm

re: #33 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

It’s because of this.

[Embedded content]

Musk and Trump have the same personality disorder.

Musk doesn’t like the market when it affects him.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 15, 2023 • 7:46:27pm

re: #33 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

It’s because of this.

[Embedded content]

Musk and Trump have the same personality disorder.

PLAIIOS!S!!S!!!

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DodgerFan1988  May 15, 2023 • 7:50:05pm

re: #33 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

It’s because of this.

[Embedded content]

Musk and Trump have the same personality disorder.

They both feed on white grievance.

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ckkatz  May 15, 2023 • 7:50:25pm

The major reason why the Russian military is so dysfunctional:

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jaunte  May 15, 2023 • 7:50:53pm
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Joe Bacon ✅  May 15, 2023 • 7:51:09pm

re: #37 ckkatz

The major reason why the Russian military is so dysfunctional:

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And he hasn’t slipped out a window yet?

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🔧-wench  May 15, 2023 • 7:54:22pm
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Belafon  May 15, 2023 • 7:55:12pm

re: #36 DodgerFan1988

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 15, 2023 • 7:56:13pm

re: #31 DodgerFan1988

No Eloon. That’s YOU.

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austin_blue  May 15, 2023 • 7:57:41pm

Well, She Who Must Be Obeyed is home from her gig, and it’s her Birthday, and it’s raining like hell (a non sequitur) and we’re off for the rack. Night all! Sweet scaly dreams!

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 15, 2023 • 7:58:53pm

When people show you what they really are, believe them—especially when it comes to Sleazy E!

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Captain Ron  May 15, 2023 • 8:01:19pm
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ckkatz  May 15, 2023 • 8:04:15pm

He details visiting a church in Omaha Nebraska where he was apparently escorted off property by two church members. One of whom was dressed in “full militiaman gear”.

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teleskiguy  May 15, 2023 • 8:05:29pm

Got a box fan in the window on the low setting and gotdam it’s comfortable in here.

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Captain Ron  May 15, 2023 • 8:09:09pm
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jaunte  May 15, 2023 • 8:10:46pm
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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 15, 2023 • 8:13:41pm

re: #49 jaunte

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 15, 2023 • 8:17:14pm
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🔧-wench  May 15, 2023 • 8:18:10pm
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ckkatz  May 15, 2023 • 8:19:44pm
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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 8:25:45pm

Fromn downstairs.

re: #148 jaunte
“CNN’s reporting on the Durham Report right now is absolute trash. They are acting as if this report is a victory for Republicans and even called it an “exoneration” of Donald Trump. Again, CNN is failing all of us & our democracy. Full stop.”

Watching a cable channel destroy its brand in real time. All to get Fox viewers that will not watch it. It could have stated it was the site of the truth, spent its time destroying the lying GOP and been seen in history as heroic. Instead it will be seen int he same group as the Finn, Quisling.

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ckkatz  May 15, 2023 • 8:26:45pm
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ckkatz  May 15, 2023 • 8:31:08pm

Thread:
(Caveat Emptor, the guardians at the gate are no longer there.)

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🔧-wench  May 15, 2023 • 8:32:19pm

Wear Orange Day is June 2. That’s the birthday of a person who died in gun violence whose friends commemorate them by wearing orange as the color hunters wear to avoid getting shot. The mayor read a statement full of ‘whereases’ and statistics, but didn’t mention suicide, but then the lead for Moms Demand got up to say a few words, and this was her first statement, of the 500 and some gun deaths in Oregon each year, 80% are suicide, well above the national average.

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2023 • 8:35:49pm

re: #19 No Malarkey!

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Dipshits like this always eventually find out that the “bad people” he wants gone way outnumber the “good people” he thinks are gonna be on his side. Or that many of the people he thinks of as “good people” are not gonna rush to his aid with their own guns.

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jaunte  May 15, 2023 • 8:38:50pm

re: #51 Joe Bacon ✅

I’m hoping that the cable news channels all discover that the defrocking and prosecution of Trump and all the criminals in his orbit will attract even more eyeballs than platforming his Caligula act.

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ckkatz  May 15, 2023 • 8:42:31pm

re: #57 🔧-wench

Wear Orange Day is June 2. That’s the birthday of a person who died in gun violence whose friends commemorate them by wearing orange as the color hunters wear to avoid getting shot. The mayor read a statement full of ‘whereases’ and statistics, but didn’t mention suicide, but then the lead for Moms Demand got up to say a few words, and this was her first statement, of the 500 and some gun deaths in Oregon each year, 80% are suicide, well above the national average.

I think that it is great that you are working to reduce the numbers of gun deaths in Oregon!

Apropos of nothing -

Many years ago, when I took my hunter’s safety course for a Virginia hunting license the folks running it did a display of mannequins wearing the mandated orange clothing in the woods. (There are minimums of so many square inches.)

To say the least, the visibility of that clothing was not reassuring. My whelm was most definitely undered. It was better than nothing. But way too close to that nothing.

I suspect that there are so few hunting deaths these days is because there are so few people out hunting. The cost, quality ,and product safety at the meat counter is so much better.

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🔧-wench  May 15, 2023 • 8:47:44pm

I think I sunburned my Unblinking Eye of the Left on Saturday, when I was standing around for four hours in the sun, which felt great. My eye has needed more manual blinks yesterday and today, and is tearing uncontrollably. I’m only about a millimeter away from being able to get that eye all the way shut, but that’s only by squinching them both shut as hard as I can.

I am so lucky this goes away. At my age, things usually just keep going downhill.

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Captain Ron  May 15, 2023 • 8:49:29pm

I think they have to wear all orange when hunting in Manitoba.

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🔧-wench  May 15, 2023 • 8:51:16pm

re: #60 ckkatz

I think that it is great that you are working to reduce the numbers of gun deaths in Oregon!

Apropos of nothing -

Many years ago, when I took my hunter’s safety course for a Virginia hunting license the folks running it did a display of mannequins wearing the mandated orange clothing in the woods. (There are minimums of so many square inches.)

To say the least, the visibility of that clothing was not reassuring. My whelm was most definitely undered. It was better than nothing. But way too close to that nothing.

I suspect that there are so few hunting deaths these days is because there are so few people out hunting. The cost, quality ,and product safety at the meat counter is so much better.

I think it’s still big out west. In New Mexico, a lot of people went hunting. We used to plan our mountain bike rides around them. In Oregon, it may be declining.

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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 8:58:41pm

re: #19 No Malarkey!

REPUBLICANS ARE LITERALLY PLANNING TO EVICT LIBERALS FROM RED STATES AT GUNPOINT.

This is mind boggling. Sorry for the long quote from the Bible. As someone who has been a fallen Catholic for at least 5 decades I know how awful the Bible can be. But some of the direct words of Jesus are important and meaningful no matter your views. if for no other reason than they impact billions of people. Since I was in High School, I have found that using his direct words to be more useful when talking with these bigots who defile the work of Christ, because they cannot easily ignore the obvious words He spoke. Here, He tells everyone EXACTLY what needs to be done to get into Heaven. I have colored them red because in the Protestant Bible, His direct words are in red letters, deomnstrating their importantce. From Matthew 25:

31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.”

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’”

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’”

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’”

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’”

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’”

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

Whether Chirst was God or not, these are good words to live by. Helping the least of us makes a better society. Nothing about killing them or forcibly removing them.Not a single one of these supposed leaders advocates for the very things that would definitely get them into the Heaven (the poor, the sick, migrants, prisoners). They all demonstrate themselves by their actions that they are goats and will go to their eternal punishment.Their own religious founder does not give exceptions or alternative approaches. He is pretty definitive. None of these people are Christians no matter what they say. In Matthew 23, Christ tell us exactly what these people are, hypocrites.

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teleskiguy  May 15, 2023 • 9:03:15pm

Long flight. Took off from Paris, FR. He’s back stateside.

Mastodon

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🔧-wench  May 15, 2023 • 9:05:05pm

re: #64 silverdolphin

Look at all those red words!

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ckkatz  May 15, 2023 • 9:07:38pm

re: #62 Captain Ron

I think they have to wear all orange when hunting in Manitoba.

Heh, the powers that be updated the regulations from just solid blaze orange to permit wearing solid blaze pink or orange.

These days, I believe that the hat has to be orange or pink and there has to be at least 100 square inches of orange or pink on upper body clothing at shoulder level and visible for 360degrees.

When I went out hunting, I wore 100% blaze orange. And tried to stay out of shadows and away from other hunters.

My last time hunting was when I had an excellent chance to shoot a buck. But decided that it was more trouble than it was worth. As always, ymmv.

I grew up in Pennsylvania back in the 1960s. Iirc, there were about 2 million deer hunters chasing about 1 million deer and killing about 500,000 deer every year. And the first day of deer season usually saw about 10-20 shot deer hunters. I had a friend who lived in rural Westmoreland County. His cousin was killed during deer season.

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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 9:12:58pm

re: #66 🔧-wench

Look at all those red words!

Hoping I did not break some rule on LGF but red letters in the Bible are supposed to be the really important stuff. And I wanted to include all the relevant verses as I believe that they make a strong rhetorical approach.

I have found this approach does not often work on cult members but it can have a real effect on someone younger whose views have not hardened.

But let me know if I need to change anything.

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retired cynic  May 15, 2023 • 9:15:35pm

re: #67 ckkatz

Hunting has changed a lot. Back when my father hunted, he hunted primarily small game that we could eat. He really preferred fishing, and saved bird feathers with which to tie flies. When he became disabled, hunting was just not possible, and he built fishing rods and repaired them, and made his beer money doing that.

I don’t remember hearing about people being shot while hunting. Now, several horses we sold (one to Oregon, ww!) were shot and killed by hunters. Probably saw something brownish color and shot at it. Or missed a deer and was frustrated, and killed a horse (or a cow) just because they were out to kill something.

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🔧-wench  May 15, 2023 • 9:16:38pm

re: #68 silverdolphin

Hoping I did not break some rule on LGF but red letters in the Bible are supposed to be the really important stuff. And I wanted to include all the relevant verses as I believe that they make a strong rhetorical approach.

But let me know if I need to change anything.

I don’t know of any broken rules, but you may have used your quota of red pixels for the month.

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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 9:22:34pm

re: #46 ckkatz

He details visiting a church in Omaha Nebraska where he was apparently escorted off property by two church members. One of whom was dressed in “full militiaman gear”.

I kinda think slow is a litle misleading. That suggests we have time. I’ve been calling it a “Cold Civil War”. The Cold War was fought almost daily but it was not direct. The Civil War was fought daily and it was direct. Today;s is fought daily and can waver between indirect and direct almost as often.

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retired cynic  May 15, 2023 • 9:22:40pm

Looks like Erdogan pulled it out, dadgummit. Turkey’s row just got harder and longer.

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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 9:24:43pm

re: #70 🔧-wench

I don’t know of any broken rules, but you may have used your quota of red pixels for the month.

/

Well, since I actually used Crimson rather than Red. I should be okay ;-)

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 15, 2023 • 9:25:16pm

re: #68 silverdolphin

Hoping I did not break some rule on LGF but red letters in the Bible are supposed to be the really important stuff. And I wanted to include all the relevant verses as I believe that they make a strong rhetorical approach.

I have found this approach does not often work on cult members but it can have a real effect on someone younger whose views have not hardened.

But let me know if I need to change anything.

This jew doesn’t have a problem with it.

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darthstar  May 15, 2023 • 9:29:24pm
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Captain Ron  May 15, 2023 • 9:29:28pm

re: #68 silverdolphin

Red text in the New Testament denoted Jesus’ spoken words.

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darthstar  May 15, 2023 • 9:30:06pm

re: #76 Captain Ron

Red text in the New Testament denoted Jesus’ spoken words.

I always thought that was Elmo.

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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 9:30:25pm

re: #72 retired cynic

Looks like Erdogan pulled it out, dadgummit. Turkey’s row just got harder and longer.

From what I have read, Erdogan is in a runoff. And if the 3rd party candidate (Sinan Ogan threw all his support behind the second place (Kemal Kilicdaroglu) we would see a new President.

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ckkatz  May 15, 2023 • 9:31:34pm

re: #69 retired cynic

Hunting has changed a lot. Back when my father hunted, he hunted primarily small game that we could eat. He really preferred fishing, and saved bird feathers with which to tie flies. When he became disabled, hunting was just not possible, and he built fishing rods and repaired them, and made his beer money doing that.

I don’t remember hearing about people being shot while hunting. Now, several horses we sold (one to Oregon, ww!) were shot and killed by hunters. Probably saw something brownish color and shot at it. Or missed a deer and was frustrated, and killed a horse (or a cow) just because they were out to kill something.

So sorry to hear about the horses.

In Pennsylvania, there were lots of stories about ‘stray’ bullets hitting houses and livestock being hit. And lots of cautions about keeping livestock in barns during the hunting season. (And pets inside.) Usually the culprit was long gone by the time the damage was detected.

My ex wife grew up on the family’s rural Virginia farm and talked about family subsistence hunting up until about WW2. Her only experience hunting was when she and a group of Jr High friends decided to go raccoon hunting one night. They rounded up all the dogs they could find, specifically a poodle and a golden retriever. Then proceeded out. The dogs caught the scent of the raccoon and gave chase. The group followed. The raccoon ran up a tree. At which point the hunt was declared a success and everybody went home.

And a friend from the Tidewater region also used to talk about how his grandparents subsistence hunted. (He was from Norfolk and his nickname in the Navy was based upon his fairly heavy regional pronunciation of his home town, “No-Fuck”.) Life was rough in rural Virginia during the Great Depression for most of the folks.

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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 9:32:19pm

re: #74 I Would Prefer Not To

This jew doesn’t have a problem with it.

Thanks. My debating approaches have been heavily influenced by a friend who had a rabbi father and another one whose father was a Jesuit. I always wanted to get them in the same room and ask a question ;-)

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retired cynic  May 15, 2023 • 9:32:26pm

re: #78 silverdolphin
Erdogan scores win through culture wars and soft authoritarianism
washingtonpost.com

A day before Turkey’s elections, liberal pundits and analysts inside and outside the country sensed the possibility of an epochal turning point. After two decades in power, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan seemed weak — his image of competent, stable leadership diminished by years of economic dysfunction and a backlash over poor governance and corruption that followed the devastating earthquake which ravaged a huge tract of southern Turkey. Polls showed opposition leader Kemal Kilicdaroglu firmly ahead in the first round presidential race. Erdogan’s time, it seemed, was running out.
A day after the vote, the sense of deflation among backers of the opposition was palpable. Rather than trailing Kilicdaroglu, Erdogan had a comfortable lead by nearly five percentage points and was in a whisker of a contest-clinching victory with almost 50 percent of the vote. Instead, the two will face each other in runoff election May 28, though most experts now think the incumbent’s return to power is a fait accompli. Meanwhile, Erdogan’s Justice and Development Party, or AKP, and its allies retained control of parliament.

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Captain Ron  May 15, 2023 • 9:34:52pm

Maybe it’s me and I just haven’t noticed it before in the past 60 years even though I’ve been into astronomy since I was 7. Venus has been high in the sky for about 3 months and it’s still high in the sky. That just seems unusually long.

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retired cynic  May 15, 2023 • 9:35:49pm

re: #78 silverdolphin

I sure would love to be wrong, and see Erdogan lose, but I think they would see a lot of unrest if that happens. Maybe if he wins. But worse if he loses. My opinion is worth what you paid.

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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 9:36:35pm

re: #76 Captain Ron

Red text in the New Testament denoted Jesus’ spoken words.

Yep. Having grown up in the South where Southern Baptists brought their Bibles to school to read during home period, I realized very quickly what the red letters meant and how seldom these Baptists actually understood them.

I still remember one of them who was so proud to prove, mathamatically, that God existed. It had been shown to him on Sunday at church. I showed that he made an fundamental assumption not supported and that the opposite assumption was as valid. SO the same proof could show God did not exist.

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sagehen  May 15, 2023 • 9:37:19pm

re: #55 ckkatz

so the 100k detained, and their families, and the million looking for asylum elsewhere… presumably those are all people who would have voted against him. Meaning the election’s not nearly as close as it looks.

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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 9:37:47pm

re: #83 retired cynic

I sure would love to be wrong, and see Erdogan lose, but I think they would see a lot of unrest if that happens. Maybe if he wins. But worse if he loses. My opinion is worth what you paid.

Especially as it looks like the ultranationalist 3rd place politician is more likely to back Erdogan, I think he is back in. But it was closer than I expected.

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ckkatz  May 15, 2023 • 9:38:42pm

re: #68 silverdolphin

Hoping I did not break some rule on LGF but red letters in the Bible are supposed to be the really important stuff. And I wanted to include all the relevant verses as I believe that they make a strong rhetorical approach.

But let me know if I need to change anything.

I just assumed that Ms Wench was remembering the discussion you two had on setting the colors of letters in posts. And that she was admiring your success. Sort of a Red Letter Day.

To my knowledge, beyond no pineapple on the letters, there aren’t many restrictions.

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Captain Ron  May 15, 2023 • 9:38:56pm

re: #82 Captain Ron

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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 9:39:41pm

re: #81 retired cynic

Erdogan scores win through culture wars and soft authoritarianism
washingtonpost.com

Hope springs eternal but since the 3rd place votegetter aligns mofr with Erdogan, his votes will push erdogan over the top. But It will be closer I think than he expected.

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retired cynic  May 15, 2023 • 9:41:23pm

re: #79 ckkatz

The depression was pretty bitter down in deep southern Illinois, which is where I am from. But I remember Pop actually fishing and hunting after he got out of the army in WW2, and trying to make it on a subsistence farm. Gave that up, and got a job building signs, and then did the fishing and hunting thing as male bonding with his veteran pals and work friends. Did fishing until he was no longer able to physically manage that, which must have broken his heart.

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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 9:41:42pm

re: #87 ckkatz

I just assumed that Ms Wench was remembering the discussion you two had on setting the colors of letters in posts. And that she was admiring your success. Sort of a Red Letter Day.

To my knowledge, beyond no pineapple on the letters, there aren’t many restrictions.

Thanks, I knew she was kidding. Her help was great and I appreciated it. And, as I replied, I used Crimson so I have lots of red left ;-) Just checked and there is not apparently a pineapple color, thank goodness.

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🔧-wench  May 15, 2023 • 9:43:28pm

I may be the only person who thinks Devo makes Neil Young better.

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ckkatz  May 15, 2023 • 9:43:47pm

re: #91 silverdolphin

Thanks, I knew she was kidding. Her help was great and I appreciated it. And, as I replied, I used Crimson so I have lots of red left ;-) Just checked and there is not apparently a pineapple color, thank goodness.

:)

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teleskiguy  May 15, 2023 • 9:46:18pm

re: #75 darthstar

You should make a side-by-side of this picture of you and a picture of you strapped up and immobilized for Ski Patrol training.

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ckkatz  May 15, 2023 • 9:56:04pm

re: #90 retired cynic

The depression was pretty bitter down in deep southern Illinois, which is where I am from. But I remember Pop actually fishing and hunting after he got out of the army in WW2, and trying to make it on a subsistence farm. Gave that up, and got a job building signs, and then did the fishing and hunting thing as male bonding with his veteran pals and work friends. Did fishing until he was no longer able to physically manage that, which must have broken his heart.

I am sorry to hear about how your father’s lifelong outdoors activities were eventually stopped by aging. That must have been very hard for not only him, but all who loved him.

And yes, the transition from a rural subsistence economy to an urban money based economy over just a few generations was often difficult.

I have heard a lot of stories about our parents’ generation using hunting for male bonding. Including a couple of groups who had served together during combat in WW2 and would go to a hunting camp every year. My assumption was that this was a way to cope with what we know now as post-traumatic stress. Mutual help by trusted friends who had shared the same experiences.

Additionally, I suspect that marriages were often viewed differently then and the absence while hunting sometimes provided a bit of respite for both spouses.

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Captain Ron  May 15, 2023 • 9:57:16pm

re: #92 🔧-wench

I may be the only person who thinks Devo makes Neil young better.

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you’re an interesting person, 🔧-wench. I like your music.

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ckkatz  May 15, 2023 • 9:59:26pm
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retired cynic  May 15, 2023 • 9:59:26pm

re: #95 ckkatz

Yes, your analysis would be correct. However, my mother also loved fishing (although not sit all day in the rain fanatic), and their vacations virtually all of the years together were spent fishing in just a couple of dearly loved spots in northern Wisconsin and Minnesota.

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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 9:59:41pm

OMG Even though a satire from The Daily Show, this is an incredible ad.

youtube.com

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retired cynic  May 15, 2023 • 10:02:32pm

re: #99 silverdolphin

Except for the nastiness about Kamala. Otherwise, yep!

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teleskiguy  May 15, 2023 • 10:03:54pm

I find this very disturbing. This is a rightwing radio shock jock in Denver. No mention or discussion of how I said he should be caring for his guns to kill migrants.

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2023 • 10:05:59pm

re: #71 silverdolphin

I kinda think slow is a litle misleading. That suggests we have time. I’ve been calling it a “Cold Civil War”. The Cold War was fought almost daily but it was not direct. The Civil War was fought daily and it was direct. Today;s is fought daily and can waver between indirect and direct almost as often.

Big issue with accurately reporting the possibility of another civil war is that there are no clear lines, no standing armies, no chosen sides. The reality of a “Second American Civil War” is that it’s more likely to look like The Troubles than it is a replay of the last Civil War. You’re not going to see massive armies doing battle across the breadth of the land, you’re more likely to hear about how yet another MAGAt terrorist cell was wiped out after going toe-to-toe with the National Guard.

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ckkatz  May 15, 2023 • 10:08:01pm

re: #98 retired cynic

Yes, your analysis would be correct. However, my mother also loved fishing (although not sit all day in the rain fanatic), and their vacations virtually all of the years together were spent fishing in just a couple of dearly loved spots in northern Wisconsin and Minnesota.

Sounds like quite a remarkable couple.

Most ladies I have met have had a decided lack of enthusiasm for fishing. I was never certain if it was due to personal lack of interest. Or if it was due to the feeling of a gender barrier. Probably some combination.

Growing up in Western Pennsylvania, where all the water sources were highly polluted, I was never into fishing. Once I caught a pumpkinseed sunfish, I declared victory and moved on to other things in life. I released the fish as there was no way I was going eat it, knowing the pond I caught it in.

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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 10:08:31pm

re: #100 retired cynic

Except for the nastiness about Kamala. Otherwise, yep!

Oh shit. I meant to comment on that. It is actually completely off base. They have not recognized that she has made a huge imporvement in her rhetoric, IMHO. The speech she made for the Tennesse Three was one fo the best I have seen in years. I had not been a huge fan but this speech completely changed my mind. It reminded me a lot of how Barbara Jordan used to speak. And she has kept that form. It is like no longer needing to be in DC for the tie-breakers, she is free to speak for the first time.

I fully expect that if she continues with this rhetorical approach, she will be in a strong position next year.

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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 10:11:30pm

re: #102 Targetpractice

Big issue with accurately reporting the possibility of another civil war is that there are no clear lines, no standing armies, no chosen sides. The reality of a “Second American Civil War” is that it’s more likely to look like The Troubles than it is a replay of the last Civil War. You’re not going to see massive armies doing battle across the breadth of the land, you’re more likely to hear about how yet another MAGAt terrorist cell was wiped out after going toe-to-toe with the National Guard.

Absolutely. I view that most of the Cold War was not fought by the US and the USSR but by puppet states and surrogates. SImlarly, this Cold Civil War will not be fought directly by standup armies in uniforms but by puppets and surrogates. The Oath Keepers. The Proud Boys. The evangelicals.

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🔧-wench  May 15, 2023 • 10:12:47pm

re: #86 silverdolphin

Especially as it looks like the ultranationalist 3rd place politician is more likely to back Erdogan, I htink he is back in. But it was close than I expected.

Close, indeed.

With the unofficial count nearly completed, voter support for the incumbent had dipped below the majority required for him to win re-election outright. Erdogan had 49.3 per cent of the vote, while Kilicdaroglu, had 45 per cent, according to the state-run news agency Anadolu.

The run off is not a sure thing, just probable. I’m an optimist.

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teleskiguy  May 15, 2023 • 10:12:49pm

re: #101 teleskiguy

This shit is fucken WEIRD! This guy has an AM radio show in Denver and he’s a Grade A piece of shit. And he gets to scream the stupidest horseshit forever and ever amen.

Fuck humans!

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2023 • 10:13:50pm

re: #97 ckkatz

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You can really tell that none of these fucksticks have any experience actually going after organized crime (which is what they characterize the Biden Family as) since they felt the need to rush to the media screaming they had an “informant,” they had a “whistleblower” before they’d nailed down their testimony in sworn affidavits that could be used in lieu of a living person.

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ckkatz  May 15, 2023 • 10:13:58pm

re: #104 silverdolphin

Oh shit. I meant to comment on that. It is actually completely off base. They have not recognized that she has made a huge imporvement in her rhetoric, IMHO. The speech she made for the Tennesse Three was one fo the best I have seen in years. I had not been a huge fan but this speech completely changed my mind. It reminded me a lot of how Barbara Jordan used to speak. And she has kept that form. It is like no longer needing to be in DC for the tie-breakers, she is free to speak for the first time.

I fully expect that if she continues with this rhetorical approach, she will be in a strong position next year.

Yes, she definitely is a bright lady and learning very quickly. She just moved from state politics to national politics not too long ago.

It does seem to me that Biden’s team has been giving her a lot of opportunities to learn and grow. This despite all the press “Let’s you and Biden go fight” crap. Her biggest issue, it seems to me, will be to build up a solid fund raising machine in order to pursue a national campaign.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 15, 2023 • 10:15:52pm

The fabled “40 Acres Lot” in Culver City which was next to Desilu’s Culver City lot (combined the old Hal Roach, Pathe & Selznick properties). The lot was parceled off into various developments back in the mid 70s…

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William Lewis  May 15, 2023 • 10:16:02pm

re: #102 Targetpractice

Big issue with accurately reporting the possibility of another civil war is that there are no clear lines, no standing armies, no chosen sides. The reality of a “Second American Civil War” is that it’s more likely to look like The Troubles than it is a replay of the last Civil War. You’re not going to see massive armies doing battle across the breadth of the land, you’re more likely to hear about how yet another MAGAt terrorist cell was wiped out after going toe-to-toe with the National Guard.

That with elements of the shattering of Yugoslavia with the genocidal massacres and rape camps as well.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 15, 2023 • 10:16:10pm

re: #103 ckkatz

Sounds like quite a remarkable couple.

Most ladies I have met have had a decided lack of enthusiasm for fishing. I was never certain if it was due to personal lack of interest. Or if it was due to the feeling of a gender barrier. Probably some combination.

Growing up in Western Pennsylvania, where all the water sources were highly polluted, I was never into fishing. Once I caught a pumpkinseed sunfish, I declared victory and moved on to other things in life. I released the fish as there was no way I was going eat it, knowing the pond I caught it in.

Rachel Maddow is said to be very in to fishing.

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2023 • 10:17:52pm

re: #105 silverdolphin

Absolutely. I view that most of the Cold War was not fought by the US and the USSR but by puppet states and surrogates. SImlarly, this Cold Civil War will not be fought directly by standup armies in uniforms but by puppets and surrogates. The Oath Keepers. The Proud Boys. The evangelicals.

Having listened to “patriots” for decades now, one of the big parts of their fantasies about “taking back the country” always depend largely upon the idea that the moment they announce themselves in a state of rebellion/secession/etc, the whole of the Armed Forces will either refuse orders to put them down or will take up arms in support of the “patriots.”

There’s never a scenario where they are a bunch of beered-up chowderheads playing out their own private Alamo in their “compound” as the FBI or National Guard come knocking on the door with a Abrams, they’re the guys with all the guns who are gonna roll up to the White House and put the “tyrannical” president under arrest and install themselves as the new government.

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Sherlock Hound  May 15, 2023 • 10:19:33pm

re: #105 silverdolphin

Absolutely. I view that most of the Cold War was not fought by the US and the USSR but by puppet states and surrogates. SImlarly, this Cold Civil War will not be fought directly by standup armies in uniforms but by puppets and surrogates. The Oath Keepers. The Proud Boys. The evangelicals.

The Republicans are, like Sinn Fein, the political wing of the terrorists. Cops are Provos and RUC both. But nobody will use bombs—guns are so common, and will remain so for years.

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ckkatz  May 15, 2023 • 10:19:41pm

re: #107 teleskiguy

This shit is fucken WEIRD! This guy has an AM radio show in Denver and he’s a Grade A piece of shit. And he gets to scream the stupidest horseshit forever and ever amen.

Fuck humans!

Isn’t that essentially the description of a shock jock? Basically to be an immature asshole piece of shit? I have never seen any of these folks face any consequences for their behavior.

What’s the old joke..

Mud wrestling with a pig is a good way to get slimy. And then the pig beats you because he has more experience.

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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 10:24:34pm

re: #109 ckkatz

Yes, she definitely is a bright lady and learning very quickly. She just moved from state politics to national politics not too long ago.

It does seem to me that Biden’s team has been giving her a lot of opportunities to learn and grow. This despite all the press “Let’s you and Biden go fight” crap. Her biggest issue, it seems to me, will be to build up a solid fund raising machine in order to pursue a national campaign.

Absolutely, raising money is still an important measure. I expect Kamala to be an important connection to the minority communities, which also have more wealth now than ever before.

Harris seemed to be picking up the rhythms of the male Black leaders, like MLK. Her rhetorical style almost has a preacher-like cadence and really connected well with the mostly black audience she spoke to, withough notes or an aparrent teleprompter.

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ckkatz  May 15, 2023 • 10:26:10pm
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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 10:29:38pm

re: #113 Targetpractice

Having listened to “patriots” for decades now, one of the big parts of their fantasies about “taking back the country” always depend largely upon the idea that the moment they announce themselves in a state of rebellion/secession/etc, the whole of the Armed Forces will either refuse orders to put them down or will take up arms in support of the “patriots.”

There’s never a scenario where they are a bunch of beered-up chowderheads playing out their own private Alamo in their “compound” as the FBI or National Guard come knocking on the door with a Abrams, they’re the guys with all the guns who are gonna roll up to the White House and put the “tyrannical” president under arrest and install themselves as the new government.

Highlighted area made me chuckle. They simply do not understand just how hard it would be to take over a country as large as the US, both in population and in size. The logistics of this would be simply unbelievable. “Where are they going to get theiur bullets from” for example. How about food? Fuel for transportation?

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teleskiguy  May 15, 2023 • 10:30:30pm

re: #101 teleskiguy

These people are genocide fanatics.

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ckkatz  May 15, 2023 • 10:31:34pm
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Targetpractice  May 15, 2023 • 10:33:10pm

re: #118 silverdolphin

Highlighted area made me chuckle. They simply do not understand just how hard it would be to take over a country as large as the US, both in population and in size. The logistics of this would be simply unbelievable. “Where are they going to get theiur bullets from” for example. How about food? Fuel for transportation?

Probably the best recent example is the whole Bird Sanctuary business, where after just a couple days they were online and begging for their “supporters” to ship them everything from food to ammo. And all the hilarious images and videos that created when they were instead receiving boxes of dildos and barrels of lubricant. They had hoped for a replay of the Bundy Ranch showdown, ignoring that the Feds had learned their lesson and simply chose to starve the fuckers out rather than try to remove them by force.

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sagehen  May 15, 2023 • 10:34:14pm

re: #103 ckkatz

Sounds like quite a remarkable couple.

Most ladies I have met have had a decided lack of enthusiasm for fishing. I was never certain if it was due to personal lack of interest. Or if it was due to the feeling of a gender barrier. Probably some combination.

going to the lake/river/ocean but you can’t swim? There’s no snack bar. If you catch anything, it’s smelly and needs cleaning.

Personally, the only fish I want anything to do with is on the menu at a Japanese restaurant.

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ckkatz  May 15, 2023 • 10:34:43pm
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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 10:34:49pm

re: #114 Sherlock Hound

The Republicans are, like Sinn Fein, the political wing of the terrorists. Cops are Provos and RUC both. But nobody will use bombs—guns are so common, and will remain so for years.

Good points but Ireland is about the size of South Carolina with the population of Arizona. The diversity of the United States, even in people who are conservatives, is a huge plus here. It is why I expect the GOP to fracture just like the Whigs. Neither could come up with a way to move into the future and were/are stuck in a past that no longer exists. People moved on even as the parties remained mired in the past.

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2023 • 10:34:52pm

re: #120 ckkatz

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2023 • 10:36:08pm

re: #123 ckkatz

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It’s so cute that Tara still thinks anybody gives a flying fuck at a donut about her anymore.

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darthstar  May 15, 2023 • 10:38:28pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Because he’s good for ratings…that’s why.

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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 10:38:35pm

re: #121 Targetpractice

Probably the best recent example is the whole Bird Sanctuary business, where after just a couple days they were online and begging for their “supporters” to ship them everything from food to ammo. And all the hilarious images and videos that created when they were instead receiving boxes of dildos and barrels of lubricant. They had hoped for a replay of the Bundy Ranch showdown, ignoring that the Feds had learned their lesson and simply chose to starve the fuckers out rather than try to remove them by force.

Such good points. Their attempt to tie up DC with the trucks was such a fiasco. Fighting a war is hard. Hell, look at what a failure Jan 6 was, even with a minimal police presence. They simply do not have a concept of how to run a war. And anyone who does, knows that such a war in the US is pretty much impossible.

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ckkatz  May 15, 2023 • 10:39:06pm

re: #126 Targetpractice

They’re bringing back the oldies. Remember when it was the “Clinton Kill” list? And it made no sense even then.

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darthstar  May 15, 2023 • 10:40:51pm

Q-Anon Shaman gets out of prison this week. I hope he stumbles down a flight of stairs and spends the next seven years gurgling through a ventilator. Fuck that piece of shit.

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piratedan  May 15, 2023 • 10:42:35pm

re: #123 ckkatz

like a LOT of GOP flavored statements, makes me wonder if they’re looking at culling GOP whistle blowers before they can testify; especially since Projection is one of their tried and true mechanisms.

maybe there really is some kind of cabal that serves the forces of Fascism that shows some semi-competency at the highest echelons but their lower and middle ranks are such poor tools that they can’t see any other way that people are motivated to act, so everyone gets accused of what they are planning and doing.

I really can’t see it, but hell, there are times when the marching orders and propaganda pivots are so fast and seemingly coordinated that I can’t help but wonder.

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darthstar  May 15, 2023 • 10:43:34pm

By the time we wake up tomorrow, Russia will have lost its 200,000th troop in Ukraine.

Sweet dreams my friends…I fly back to 60ish degree days tomorrow…blessed be.

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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 10:43:37pm

re: #123 ckkatz

Since everything the MAGA Republicans do is projection, I have to wonder how many liberals they have killed.

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ckkatz  May 15, 2023 • 10:44:34pm
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darthstar  May 15, 2023 • 10:44:40pm

re: #131 piratedan

Kill list? Don’t they mean cooperating witness list?

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Belafon  May 15, 2023 • 10:45:28pm

re: #124 silverdolphin

Good points but Ireland is about the size of South Carolina with the population of Arizona. The diversity of the United States, even in people who are conservatives, is a huge plus here. It is why I expect the GOP to fracture just like the Whigs. Neither could come up with a way to move into the future and were/are stuck in a past that no longer exists. People moved on even as the parties remained mired in the past.

Yep, as long as the rest of us don’t give up.

Along those lines, and this ties into things happening in Nebraska, one of the techniques Republicans are using is creating chaos and pain in so many different areas that groups like gays, women, and minorities feel that the Democratic party isn’t responding quickly enough to them, demotivating them. And Republicans are able to take advantage of a Supreme Court that is willing to hinder the response of the federal government to local violations of rights on top of a federal system that gives states the ability to do things that the federal government can’t.

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ckkatz  May 15, 2023 • 10:46:55pm

re: #133 silverdolphin

Since everything the MAGA Republicans do is projection, I have to wonder how many liberals they have killed.

Good point!

I had been thinking that a GOP list of progressives to kill was a desire rather than already accomplished. But, as you point out, we really do not know.

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🔧-wench  May 15, 2023 • 10:47:02pm

It’s cooling off a lot more tonight than it did last night, but..

Mastodon

…not that much. It’s only May!

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2023 • 10:49:50pm

re: #129 ckkatz

They’re bringing back the oldies. Remember when it was the “Clinton Kill” list? And it made no sense even then.

The beauty of the “Clinton Body Count” was that it was easy to build and maintain: Just grab the name of anybody remotely connected to the Clintons who died under “suspicious” circumstances or died “suddenly” when all around them claimed they’d been perfectly healthy and then just wave your hands like some Hollywood mystic while fatally intoning that the Clintons were “killing all the witnesses.”

Here? Nobody gives a tinker’s damn about Tara and Comer’s “informant” could be Biden’s housekeeper for all we know. For a “body count,” it’s pretty damned pathetic.

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piratedan  May 15, 2023 • 10:53:00pm

re: #135 darthstar

toe-may-toe/toe-mah-toe

this is the same crew that have screwed up the meaning of words like liberal and freedom and pro-life, so I’m just looking past the language and drinking in the context….

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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 10:58:00pm

re: #134 ckkatz

Here is a big difference in this election few seem to realize. Trump is going up against an incumbant President. Biden has many levers to prevent the ‘horse race’ narratives and he is already using them. He is truly a professional politician and he knows how the system works. He will undercut Trump ernestly for the next year. He is already hammering white supremacy, for example. I trust Dark Branden to break Trump. Hell, we are going to see some great ads just from Trump’s comments at this town hall.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 15, 2023 • 11:06:15pm

re: #136 Belafon

Yep, as long as the rest of us don’t give up.

Along those lines, and this ties into things happening in Nebraska, one of the techniques Republicans are using is creating chaos and pain in so many different areas that groups like gays, women, and minorities feel that the Democratic party isn’t responding quickly enough to them, demotivating them. And Republicans are able to take advantage of a Supreme Court that is willing to hinder the response of the federal government to local violations of rights on top of a federal system that gives states the ability to do things that the federal government can’t.

Here in Nebraska, it’s the frustration that the Democratic Party outside the state ignores us, not that they’re not responding quickly enough.

A thread of painful stories.

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2023 • 11:09:11pm

re: #134 ckkatz

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The whole “fact-checked in real-time” BS is an excuse offered up to address not only CNN’s ridiculous decision to stage such a blatantly biased shitshow but also that they put a “moderator” there whose “fact-checking” was ignored as the asshole simply bowled her over to continue belching bullshit. This wasn’t some high school debate club performance where Trump got docked points every time he engaged in verbal diarrhea, it was a pretend “debate” where Trump had an audience laughing and cheering as he was stomping all over the “moderator” and her half-assed attempts to “fact-check” him.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 15, 2023 • 11:13:21pm

re: #143 Targetpractice

The whole “fact-checked in real-time” BS is an excuse offered up to address not only CNN’s ridiculous decision to stage such a blatantly biased shitshow but also that they put a “moderator” there whose “fact-checking” was ignored as the asshole simply bowled her over to continue belching bullshit. This wasn’t some high school debate club performance where Trump got docked points every time he engaged in verbal diarrhea, it was a pretend “debate” where Trump had an audience laughing and cheering as he was stomping all over the “moderator” and her half-assed attempts to “fact-check” him.

I can’t imagine why a Daily Caller alumna would be a good choice as a “moderator” for an entirely handpicked audience to culture-jam Trump’s fascism.

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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 11:13:58pm

re: #136 Belafon

Yep, as long as the rest of us don’t give up.

Along those lines, and this ties into things happening in Nebraska, one of the techniques Republicans are using is creating chaos and pain in so many different areas that groups like gays, women, and minorities feel that the Democratic party isn’t responding quickly enough to them, demotivating them. And Republicans are able to take advantage of a Supreme Court that is willing to hinder the response of the federal government to local violations of rights on top of a federal system that gives states the ability to do things that the federal government can’t.

One of the truly amazing things today is what can be done without asking for permission. Nebraska has actually shown what can be done without a top-down response from the party. These leaders may will actually help drive the Democratic party into a new political party system.

We are transititoning to a new political party system, our seventh. The coalitions, leaders and parties AFTER the transition are very different than before. My suspicion is that the GOP coalition will fracture under the economic and demographic changes happening. Nebraska, and others, show that the Democratic party is also under pressure to change its coalitions, with many wondering why the party is not supporting them. IN truth, it erally cannot which is why it will change and adapt to support its new coalitions.

My theory is that the ‘sane;’ parts of the GOP coalition will break first, with Wall Street/Main Street businesses moving into collaboration with Third Way Democrats (who already have similar fiscal views). This will appear to make the Democrats more conservative/moderate, which will piss off the progressives.

However, Progressives have easy ways to grab the working class whites from the GOP : two free years of community college or training, with ongoing training for free would be one example. And I think they could pull in the rural communities by making the Internet a right, much like FDR saw electrification of rural areas. As WFH progresses, many people will move to some of the nicest rural areas, if there is fast internet. This will revitalize the economies of many of these towns, which will no longer be dependent on extractive economies.(For example, much of West Virginia is within 90 minutes of cities such as DC, Baltimore, Pittsburgh. Cheap land would make this very attractive to WFH people, if they have fast internet,)

Nobody wants the evangelicals. So we end of with a new political party system - a center right, moderate one and a liberal one, just like after WW2. And I think some of the new leaders emerging from Tennessee and Nebraska will be leading each party.

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2023 • 11:15:13pm

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I can’t imagine why a Daily Caller alumna would be a good choice as a “moderator” for an entirely handpicked audience to culture-jam Trump’s fascism.

Given everything we’ve heard about the whole fiasco, odds are she’s the only one who would agree to do it without making demands or telling management what they thought of the Cheeto-colored turd.

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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 11:18:08pm

re: #142 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Here in Nebraska, it’s the frustration that the Democratic Party outside the state ignores us, not that they’re not responding quickly enough.

A thread of painful stories.

I think Megan Hunt and others are going to help remake our political party system into a new one, our seventh. Many of the difficulties we see today arise because the coalitions making up each party are no longer optimal for the cultural environment we inhabit. Demographic and economic pressures are working to remake each party.

New political party systems need new, younger leaders. This is where they will come from.

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silverdolphin  May 15, 2023 • 11:30:26pm

re: #143 Targetpractice

The whole “fact-checked in real-time” BS is an excuse offered up to address not only CNN’s ridiculous decision to stage such a blatantly biased shitshow but also that they put a “moderator” there whose “fact-checking” was ignored as the asshole simply bowled her over to continue belching bullshit. This wasn’t some high school debate club performance where Trump got docked points every time he engaged in verbal diarrhea, it was a pretend “debate” where Trump had an audience laughing and cheering as he was stomping all over the “moderator” and her half-assed attempts to “fact-check” him.

This was done exactly like those old Creationist debates. The speaker lies and lies. By the time one lie is rebutted by the scientist, 5 more have come up and it looks like they must be right.

There is one way to deal with this rhetoric. That is to halt the Gish Gallop in its tracks. Keep pulling the speaker back to ONE point and make them address that. Make them respond to your points taht are made. With the right rhetoric, it easily becomes obvious that their gallop is because they cowardly cannot answer even the first question.

Then force them to answer the second point, refusing to moive on until they do.

No one in the media has really used this against Trump. But Biden might be able to pull this off.. I can see hm in a debate stop everything and say “Trump needs to answer THIS question (whatever it is) before we move on.” That Biden will not move away from this topic, no matter what the rules are.

Then do it again. Do not take his knee off of Trump’s back.

Would it make a difference? Not for the cult but possibly for many fence sitters. Which is exactly why it was worthwhile using this approach with Creationists.You were never going to convince the cultists but you had a hope of the less committed.

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Captain Ron  May 15, 2023 • 11:50:09pm
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Captain Ron  May 15, 2023 • 11:58:29pm

That ain’t no forehead, that’s a fivehead.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 12:04:17am

re: #10 mmmirele

Real wax candles (as opposed to tallow candles) were expensive. Having one of these gizmos was like having a timer on your candle. “Oops! Party’s over! Go to bed!”

Or rather you could fall asleep with the candle still lit and not worry about it burning down the house.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 12:06:16am

re: #21 austin_blue

Egg prices are crashing!

This is apparently disastrous for JOE BIDEN!

He will be held responsible for America’s surge in cholesterol levels!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 12:08:02am

re: #31 DodgerFan1988

Musk has a point: Soros hates the kind of society that Musk wants to build.

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2023 • 12:14:33am

re: #149 Captain Ron

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 12:17:31am

re: #130 darthstar

Q-Anon Shaman gets out of prison this week. I hope he stumbles down a flight of stairs and spends the next seven years gurgling through a ventilator. Fuck that piece of shit.

He will have fifteen minutes of fame and then go on living his life as a bad parody of itself.

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Dr Lizardo  May 16, 2023 • 12:27:35am

re: #150 Captain Ron

That ain’t no forehead, that’s a fivehead.

Fast & Furious 6 - Big Forehead Scene [HD]

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 12:28:22am

Everybody wants prosthetic foreheads on their real heads

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Dr Lizardo  May 16, 2023 • 12:42:00am

Well now, here’s something I reckon doesn’t happen every day in Japan…

Police are searching for an angler who went missing at a lake in Japan’s Hokkaido, suspecting he may have been attacked by a bear after a human head was found in the area Monday, they said.

According to the police, a boat dropped off Toshihiro Nishikawa, 54, to fish unaccompanied at a spot on Lake Shumarinai in Horokanai early Sunday. An employee of the boat operator later saw a bear nearby with waders dangling from its mouth and attempted to call Nishikawa, but could not reach him.

The information prompted the town office to launch a bear hunt operation and a member of the group killed one on Monday afternoon, according to a town official.

A human head was also discovered during the operation. The police said they are investigating whether it is that of Nishikawa, a resident of Okoppe, also on Japan’s northernmost main island.

Mastodon

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Cheechako  May 16, 2023 • 12:42:05am
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Cheechako  May 16, 2023 • 12:48:39am

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ericblair  May 16, 2023 • 12:57:19am

re: #128 silverdolphin

Such good points. Their attempt to tie up DC with the trucks was such a fiasco. Fighting a war is hard. Hell, look at what a failure Jan 6 was, even with a minimal police presence. They simply do not have a concept of how to run a war. And anyone who does, knows that such a war in the US is pretty much impossible.

The MAGAts have been spoiled and coddled all their lives, compared to everyone else. They have been cocooned in a media hall of mirrors that validates them constantly for every idiot thing they say, and exaggerates their support with everyone else in the country. They are ignorant and sloppy and supremely misinformed about every facet of their existence. They can do stochastic damage, but they are the exact opposite of the Viet Cong.

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2023 • 12:59:50am

re: #53 ckkatz

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 1:16:08am

re: #162 No Malarkey!

So, in Second Amendment America remember: do not knock on doors, stray onto driveways or others’ property after dark and do not approach strangers in parking lots.

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2023 • 1:32:34am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So, in Second Amendment America remember: do not knock on doors, stray onto driveways or others’ property after dark and do not approach strangers in parking lots.

Basically avoid people and the places they congregate, or you too may be gunned down, because anyone, even a child, may be packing heat and be ready to go on a killing spree.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 1:35:12am

re: #164 No Malarkey!

Basically avoid people and the places they congregate, or you too may be gunned down, because anyone, even a child, may be packing heat and be ready to go on a killing spree.

Again, the gun is beginning to be seen as an accepted means of self-expression in American political and civic discourse.

And if the Gun Humpers could have their way, they would merge the 2nd Amendment with the 1st and have the bearing, brandishing and even discharge of guns protected as Free Speech.

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2023 • 1:37:01am

re: #165 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Again, the gun is beginning to be seen as an accepted means of self-expression in American political and civic discourse.

And if the Gun Humpers could have their way, they would merge the 2nd Amendment with the 1st and have the bearing, brandishing and even discharge of guns protected as Free Speech.

That is the America the NRA wants.

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2023 • 1:47:36am

They aren’t called giants for nothing!

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2023 • 2:05:33am

Watching the reports of Ukraine is fuckin’ hilarious. Even though they keep insisting that what is going on right now is not the anticipated counter-attack, they’re still slowly rolling up Russian positions north and south of Bakhmut even while continuing to make Wagner pay big time for every meter of ground they take in the city itself.

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2023 • 2:09:23am

Interesting historical footnote: Japan’s Topix stock market index reached its highest level since the Tokyo real estate bubble burst in 1990. It only took 33 years to recover!

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2023 • 2:13:29am

re: #169 No Malarkey!

Interesting historical footnote: Japan’s Topix stock market index reached its highest level since the Tokyo real estate bubble burst in 1990. It only took 33 years to recover!

Guinness World Record moment? Longest time to recover from recession?

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2023 • 2:23:55am

re: #170 Targetpractice

Guinness World Record moment? Longest time to recover from recession?

The Tokyo real estate bubble was a weird moment in history. If I recall correctly, for a moment Tokyo real estate was valued more than all the land in California, which was just insane.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 2:24:48am

re: #171 No Malarkey!

The Tokyo real estate bubble was a weird moment in history. If I recall correctly, for a moment Tokyo real estate was valued more than all the land in California, would was just insane.

It was being traded in square centimeters…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 2:29:13am

So DJT and the GOP are coming out swing copies of the Durham Report, using it to “exonerate” the party of any wrongdoing and “prove” the extent of the efforts made by the Deep State to persecute the Greatest President Ever, Even Better Than Lincoln or Washington.

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Teukka  May 16, 2023 • 2:31:38am
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Targetpractice  May 16, 2023 • 2:34:52am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So DJT and the GOP are coming out swing copies of the Durham Report, using it to “exonerate” the party of any wrongdoing and “prove” the extent of the efforts made by the Deep State to persecute the Greatest President Ever, Even Better Than Lincoln or Washington.

Yeah, a “witch hunt” that managed to find multiple witches.

Claiming the Durham report “exonerates” Trump is a lot of like arguing that last week’s trial “proved” he’s not a rapist.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 2:38:04am

re: #175 Targetpractice

Claiming the Durham report “exonerates” Trump is a lot of like arguing that last week’s trial “proved” he’s not a rapist.

Technically he is only a sexual assailant.

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2023 • 2:42:46am

The Durham Report is all they’ve got, so they are going to flog it for all they’re worth, particularly with stuff like this coming out.

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Nerdy Fish  May 16, 2023 • 2:43:34am

Boom, there it is.

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Nerdy Fish  May 16, 2023 • 2:44:34am

re: #177 No Malarkey!

The Durham Report is all they’ve got, so they are going to flog it for all they’re worth, particularly with stuff like this coming out.

That’s not strictly true. They’ve got Rep. James Comer (R-Dumbshitistan) and his disappearing “informants,” too.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 2:44:58am
The second-ever private astronaut mission to the International Space Station (ISS) remains on track to lift off this weekend.

NASA, SpaceX and Houston company Axiom Space held a flight readiness review (FRR) today (May 15) for the Ax-2 mission, which is scheduled to launch four people toward the International Space Station on Sunday afternoon (May 21).

“At the end of that review, the full team polled ‘go,’” Ken Bowersox, associate administrator for NASA’s Space Operations Mission Directorate, said during a post-FRR press conference this afternoon.

If all goes according to plan, Ax-2 will launch atop a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket at 5:37 p.m. EDT (2137 GMT) on Sunday from NASA’s Kennedy Space Center (KSC) in Florida. The Ax-2 astronauts will ride a SpaceX Dragon capsule to the orbiting lab, getting there around 9:30 a.m. EDT (1330 GMT) on Monday (May 21).

(more)

SpaceX Ax-2 private astronaut mission is ‘go’ for May 21 launch (Space, May 15, 2023)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 2:47:46am

re: #154 Targetpractice
Then there’s these guys (2:12)

Meerkats!

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Grunthos the Flatulent 🇳🇿  May 16, 2023 • 2:53:40am

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Tweet tweet, as they say.

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On a personal note, my mother passed away this morning.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 16, 2023 • 2:55:37am
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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2023 • 2:56:18am

re: #183 Grunthos the Flatulent 🇳🇿

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2023 • 3:00:16am

re: #184 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

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IOW another “Curveball,” another asshat who’s offering the GQP what they want on the promise that they make his legal issues “go away.”

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Teukka  May 16, 2023 • 3:00:33am

re: #183 Grunthos the Flatulent 🇳🇿

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2023 • 3:02:14am
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Teukka  May 16, 2023 • 3:04:47am

JQing off in public, without batting an eye or reaching for the dogwhistle:

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Nerdy Fish  May 16, 2023 • 3:10:27am

re: #183 Grunthos the Flatulent 🇳🇿

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 3:11:26am

re: #189 Teukka

You assume they are good intentions. They are not. He wants to erode the very fabric of civilization. Soros hates humanity.

Soros hates Elon Musk’s view of humanity.

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sagehen  May 16, 2023 • 3:11:32am

re: #177 No Malarkey!

He told her that he and Donald were selling pardons for $2M, which he would split with Donald. 7/

Mixed emotions here. On the one hand, it’s certainly something I’d find plausible about TFG. On the other hand, Rudy’s hardly the most credible witness. So? Hmmm.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 16, 2023 • 3:14:41am

Youtube keeps making changes and I don’t like them.

First off, the pages are now very fat. Take a lot to load and consumes CPU like crazy.

Then when one clicks on the “videos” tab on a channels home page, the videos come up sorted “For You”.

We aren’t given a choice as for default sorting.

Combine this with Youtube eliminating (a few months back) the sort-by-oldest capability and the frustration with Youtube keeps growing.

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Dr Lizardo  May 16, 2023 • 3:19:29am

Here’s a cover of Iron Maiden’s “Phantom of the Opera” by Ghost….

Ghost - Phantom Of The Opera (Official Audio)

Hell yeah. That’s fire.

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Barefoot Grin  May 16, 2023 • 3:21:15am

re: #177 No Malarkey!

The Durham Report is all they’ve got, so they are going to flog it for all they’re worth, particularly with stuff like this coming out.

Trump is going to bleat about how it exonerates him and shows criminality of DOJ at every rally and at each interview and no one will be prepared to counter. Emptywheel is going point by point showing what a shitshow it is, and I can’t follow very well. It will do what intended.

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2023 • 3:24:59am

re: #192 sagehen

Mixed emotions here. On the one hand, it’s certainly something I’d find plausible about TFG. On the other hand, Rudy’s hardly the most credible witness. So? Hmmm.

It’s certainly more credible than whatever claims a missing wanted arms dealer made about Hunter Biden.

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TarHellion  May 16, 2023 • 3:26:35am

Ideal weather and first-round pin position means birbie.

Taking MrsTarH to her CTA scan this morning. Will determine whether she needs carotid surgery. Hoping for the best.

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Teukka  May 16, 2023 • 3:27:47am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 3:32:55am

re: #193 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Youtube keeps making changes and I don’t like them.

First off, the pages are now very fat. Take a lot to load and consumes CPU like crazy.

is that why it keeps hanging up on me, especially in Chrome?

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2023 • 3:34:15am

re: #195 Barefoot Grin

Trump is going to bleat about how it exonerates him and shows criminality of DOJ at every rally and at each interview and no one will be prepared to counter. Emptywheel is going point by point showing what a shitshow it is, and I can’t follow very well. It will do what intended.

I don’t think the Durham Report will change any minds. What should help defeat Trump is if he is convicted of felonies next Spring if he is unable to get his trial in Manhattan delayed past November. And focus attention on issues that matter to a majority of voters, such as electing Trump could bring a nationwide abortion ban and a loss of healthcare coverage to pay for tax cuts for billionaires.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 3:35:48am

re: #198 Teukka

“Giuliani said, ‘Jews Gentiles want to go through their freaking Passover Easter all the time,
man oh man. Get over the Passover Resurrection. It was like 3,000 2,000 years ago. The red sea parted Some guy came back from the dead, big deal. It’s not the first time that happened.’

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Barefoot Grin  May 16, 2023 • 3:40:59am

re: #200 No Malarkey!

I don’t think the Durham Report will change any minds. What should help defeat Trump is if he is convicted of felonies next Spring if he is unable to get his trial in Manhattan delayed past November. And focus attention on issues that matter to a majority of voters, such as electing Trump could bring a nationwide abortion ban and a loss of healthcare coverage to pay for tax cuts for billionaires.

It’s true that a lot of people’s minds are made up. I would have hoped that it would at least have been honest. We’ve already seen CNN mischaracterize it. But yes, it’ll have to be what’s in the other courts and an ad campaign on the other things you mention—and also constant information of how the GOP are threatening to blow up the world dollar-based economy.

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ipsos  May 16, 2023 • 3:42:44am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 3:50:19am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 3:58:08am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 4:02:08am

re: #205 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That is pure Calvinism: The Rich are Rich because they are morally superior and bathed in the Grace of God.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 4:02:44am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 4:07:06am
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Teukka  May 16, 2023 • 4:08:11am

re: #189 Teukka

JQing off in public, without batting an eye or reaching for the dogwhistle:

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Teukka  May 16, 2023 • 4:16:38am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 4:20:51am

re: #207 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Lithuania and Latvia, following Poland, are going to abandon the toponym Kaliningrad in official documents.

If Putin can assert that Ukraine has no historical right to exist or no claim to Crimea, then the same can be said about any Russian claim to the Kaliningrad exclave.

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 16, 2023 • 4:21:20am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 4:21:20am

re: #210 Teukka

Are you hounding us with your blue tick?

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Nerdy Fish  May 16, 2023 • 4:23:21am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Are you hounding us with your blue tick?

What you did there, I see it.

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Teukka  May 16, 2023 • 4:26:25am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Are you hounding us with your blue tick?

He has a blue tick infestation in his twitter thread, how so? *whistles innocently*

re: #214 Nerdy Fish

What you did there, I see it.

My non-meme contribution to the thread:

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Dr Lizardo  May 16, 2023 • 4:36:52am

re: #211 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Lithuania and Latvia, following Poland, are going to abandon the toponym Kaliningrad in official documents.

If Putin can assert that Ukraine has no historical right to exist or no claim to Crimea, then the same can be said about any Russian claim to the Kaliningrad exclave.

Yep. And that’s why the Czechs are gonna claim it.

The settlement of modern-day Kaliningrad was founded in 1255 on the site of the ancient Old Prussian settlement Twangste by the Teutonic Knights during the Northern Crusades, and was named Königsberg in honor of King Ottokar II of Bohemia.

Kaliningrad is Královec.

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Dave In Austin  May 16, 2023 • 4:50:06am

Rudy! Rudy! Rudy!

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Rightwingconspirator  May 16, 2023 • 4:53:07am

The skylines Morning Glory today…

Image: wilson-e-mobo-c.jpg

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lawhawk  May 16, 2023 • 4:59:32am

re: #24 teleskiguy

The V-2 history is rather horrifying. Namely that it was an effective brand new weapon that had *zero* defense and struck silently and without warning.

The total number of casualties caused by the V2 was far less than the number of concentration camp victims killed during its production by a wide margin. It was indeed a horrifying weapon in all aspects.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2023 • 5:01:06am

re: #217 Dave In Austin

Rudy is a sex predator who thought that his power and position would allow him to get away with sex crimes.

We as a nation should abolish statute of limitations on rape charges, just as surely as we don’t have a statute of limitations on homicide. We should be able to investigate and prosecute those who engage in these heinous crimes.

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Nerdy Fish  May 16, 2023 • 5:02:50am

re: #219 lawhawk

The total number of casualties caused by the V2 was far less than the number of concentration camp victims killed during its production by a wide margin. It was indeed a horrifying weapon in all aspects.

Part of that was due to a massive disinformation campaign run by the British to effectively train the Germans to aim their V2s out into the British countryside, greatly reducing the damage and casualties done in Britain. By emphasizing or de-emphasizing reporting on certain strikes and the statistics of those strikes, they convinced the Germans that their missiles were not hitting where they were aimed, enabling the British wartime media to “bend” the strikes out of the most populous areas.

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Nerdy Fish  May 16, 2023 • 5:04:48am

re: #220 lawhawk

Rudy is a sex predator who thought that his power and position would allow him to get away with sex crimes.

We as a nation should abolish statute of limitations on rape charges, just as surely as we don’t have a statute of limitations on homicide. We should be able to investigate and prosecute those who engage in these heinous crimes.

The statute of limitations on rape and sexual assault is a holdover from the eras where rape charges were not taken seriously without direct physical evidence: Credible eyewitnesses, rape kits, etc. Keeping that limitation in place is effectively saying, “If you don’t have irrefutable proof of your charges, it’s just a he-said-she-said, and no one will ever believe you.”

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JC1  May 16, 2023 • 5:07:10am

re: #222 Nerdy Fish

The statute of limitations on rape and sexual assault is a holdover from the eras where rape charges were not taken seriously without direct physical evidence: Credible eyewitnesses, rape kits, etc. Keeping that limitation in place is effectively saying, “If you don’t have irrefutable proof of your charges, it’s just a he-said-she-said, and no one will ever believe you.”

In fairness, it’s hard to prove something beyond a reasonable doubt without physical evidence unless the perp confesses. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.

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Nerdy Fish  May 16, 2023 • 5:09:04am

re: #223 JC1

In fairness, it’s hard to prove something beyond a reasonable doubt without physical evidence unless the perp confesses. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.

Yes, I agree, but there needs to be a culture shift in how we treat accusations of rape and sexual assault. While I am wholeheartedly in agreement with the philosophy of “innocent until proven guilty,” because rape cases are so notoriously difficult to prove (physical evidence degrades over time, eyewitnesses are unreliable, etc.), we need to figure something else out when it comes to prosecuting these cases.

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JC1  May 16, 2023 • 5:14:29am

re: #224 Nerdy Fish

Yes, I agree, but there needs to be a culture shift in how we treat accusations of rape and sexual assault. While I am wholeheartedly in agreement with the philosophy of “innocent until proven guilty,” because rape cases are so notoriously difficult to prove (physical evidence degrades over time, eyewitnesses are unreliable, etc.), we need to figure something else out when it comes to prosecuting these cases.

Yep. Processing existing rape kits would be a start
endthebacklog.org

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sagehen  May 16, 2023 • 5:36:41am

Is anybody here watching Yellowjackets? I’m considering starting, but… how much violence, gore or creepiness is involved?

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2023 • 5:39:34am

I hope Sunday’s episode of Succession served as more of a heads up to election officials rather than a suggestion to pro-Trump extremists. (Link has spoilers if you haven’t watched the episode yet, rated as “traumatizing”).

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 16, 2023 • 5:46:01am

Barely in under the wire
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Dave In Austin  May 16, 2023 • 5:48:17am
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jeffreyw  May 16, 2023 • 5:49:54am

Pickle Onion Mustard

Good morning!

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silverdolphin  May 16, 2023 • 5:50:09am

Centrist Dems are plotting a save-McCarthy strategy for the debt fight

Interesting. What if, in order to remain Speaker, he makes a deal with Democrats. Pass a clean debt ceiling bill and they will make sure he stays Speaker. Of course, that means they own him. Anything that can get done will have to include Democrats.Will McCathy’s thirst for power seal the deal?

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2023 • 5:51:38am

re: #229 Dave In Austin

If Rudy’s claim that he and Trump were selling pardons is on tape, we now have a credible confession to corruption which should be investigated. The transfer of $2 million will definitely have left traces in financial records if it happened.

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2023 • 5:53:12am

re: #231 silverdolphin

Centrist Dems are plotting a save-McCarthy strategy for the debt fight

Interesting. What if, in order to remain Speaker, he makes a deal with Democrats. Pass a clean debt ceiling bill and they will make sure he stays Speaker. Of course, that means they own him. Anything that can get done will have to include Democrats.Will McCathy’s thirst for power seal the deal?

Qevin is in a bad spot. The only way he can appease the fascists is to burn the economy to the ground.

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silverdolphin  May 16, 2023 • 5:54:02am

re: #232 No Malarkey!

If Rudy’s claim that he and Trump were selling pardons is on tape, we now have a credible confession to corruption which should be investigated. The transfer of $2 million will definitely have left traces in financial records if it happened.

I think this is the plan - keep having evidence of new crimes coming out. This results in new investigations that slow the time of indictments.Because, if true, these would seem to fit into more RICO charges.

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ericblair  May 16, 2023 • 5:56:41am

re: #143 Targetpractice

The whole “fact-checked in real-time” BS is an excuse offered up to address not only CNN’s ridiculous decision to stage such a blatantly biased shitshow but also that they put a “moderator” there whose “fact-checking” was ignored as the asshole simply bowled her over to continue belching bullshit. This wasn’t some high school debate club performance where Trump got docked points every time he engaged in verbal diarrhea, it was a pretend “debate” where Trump had an audience laughing and cheering as he was stomping all over the “moderator” and her half-assed attempts to “fact-check” him.

This is Fascism 101. The audience LOVED that the big racist bully yelled over the little (female) woke libtard and her “facts”. They hate people who tell them the facts, and so this sort of shit is what they want out in life. They simply don’t care as long as they get to control others.

I never really quite understood the old Nazi chant of “we don’t want low bread prices; we don’t want high bread prices; we want National Socialist bread prices!” until the MAGAts really started showing their asses.

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2023 • 5:58:47am
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ericblair  May 16, 2023 • 6:00:22am

re: #232 No Malarkey!

If Rudy’s claim that he and Trump were selling pardons is on tape, we now have a credible confession to corruption which should be investigated. The transfer of $2 million will definitely have left traces in financial records if it happened.

Bonus points for being super-easy-to-understand corruption. They were selling pardons, for fuck’s sake. I completely absolutely believe they would do this: they’d pimp out their mothers in a heartbeat. I guess I’ll be morbidly interested in the Wall Street Journal excuses for this one.

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2023 • 6:01:10am

re: #234 silverdolphin

I think this is the plan - keep having evidence of new crimes coming out. This results in new investigations that slow the time of indictments.Because, if true, these would seem to fit into more RICO charges.

Well Jack Smith can just go ahead and indict Trump for the crimes he has probable cause for (so, so many crimes!) and indict him later for any new crimes he uncovers.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 6:01:54am

re: #210 Teukka

Well, you got called a communist in that thread. I’ll bet the commentator can’t define what communism is, or find Sweden on a map.

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silverdolphin  May 16, 2023 • 6:03:24am

re: #238 No Malarkey!

Well Jack Smith can just go ahead and indict Trump for the crimes he has probable cause for (so, so many crimes!) and indict him later for any new crimes he uncovers.

I agree and that is what he is doing. I should have added a /s snark tag ;-)

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2023 • 6:06:15am

re: #240 silverdolphin

I agree and that is what he is doing. I should have added a /s snark tag ;-)

Any day now Jack! We would really, really like Trump indicted soon enough so he can be tried before he gets “elected” President again!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 6:06:54am

re: #211 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Lithuania and Latvia, following Poland, are going to abandon the toponym Kaliningrad in official documents.

If Putin can assert that Ukraine has no historical right to exist or no claim to Crimea, then the same can be said about any Russian claim to the Kaliningrad exclave.

While my wife and I were touring Gdansk in 2015, Russia was piling aircraft and troops into the exclave for a military exercise. They closed the land border to American tourists (not that we were planning to go there).

As Kaliningrad is only thirty miles from Gdansk, we figured we were going to be very dead if Russia invaded across the border.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2023 • 6:07:58am

re: #238 No Malarkey!

Well Jack Smith can just go ahead and indict Trump for the crimes he has probable cause for (so, so many crimes!) and indict him later for any new crimes he uncovers.

Superseding indictments. Get him indicted, and if you find still more crimes, add it to the list for which he’s being charged.

This happens all the time, and should be done here.

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Dave In Austin  May 16, 2023 • 6:08:45am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 6:09:43am

re: #219 lawhawk

The total number of casualties caused by the V2 was far less than the number of concentration camp victims killed during its production by a wide margin. It was indeed a horrifying weapon in all aspects.

Had they (and the V-1 buzz bombs) been ready even six months earlier, they would have been the ideal area weapon to break up the staging areas and landing sites of the Normandy invasion.

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darthstar  May 16, 2023 • 6:10:27am

re: #243 lawhawk

Superseding indictments. Get him indicted, and if you find still more crimes, add it to the list for which he’s being charged.

This happens all the time, and should be done here.

You can’t convict me of that! There are still superseding indictments that need to be filed! In the meantime make me president so I can pardon myself…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 6:12:10am

re: #224 Nerdy Fish

Yes, I agree, but there needs to be a culture shift in how we treat accusations of rape and sexual assault. While I am wholeheartedly in agreement with the philosophy of “innocent until proven guilty,” because rape cases are so notoriously difficult to prove (physical evidence degrades over time, eyewitnesses are unreliable, etc.), we need to figure something else out when it comes to prosecuting these cases.

Unfortunately it is often the women who are held to be “slutty until proven innocent”. They still employ the “she was asking for it/she was wearing slutty underwear” argument to mitigate the fact that she was assaulted against her will.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 6:13:28am

re: #231 silverdolphin

Centrist Dems are plotting a save-McCarthy strategy for the debt fight

Interesting. What if, in order to remain Speaker, he makes a deal with Democrats. Pass a clean debt ceiling bill and they will make sure he stays Speaker. Of course, that means they own him. Anything that can get done will have to include Democrats.Will McCathy’s thirst for power seal the deal?

This is where things could backfire for the Freedom Caucus.

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Teukka  May 16, 2023 • 6:15:02am

re: #239 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, you got called a communist in that thread. I’ll bet the commentator can’t define what communism is, or find Sweden on a map.

Yep. And is wrong…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 6:15:04am

re: #242 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

While my wife and I were touring Gdansk in 2015, Russia was piling aircraft and troops into the exclave for a military exercise. They closed the land border to American tourists (not that we were planning to go there).

As Kaliningrad is only thirty miles from Gdansk, we figured we were going to be very dead if Russia invaded across the border.

Danzig in the streets…

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 16, 2023 • 6:16:24am
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silverdolphin  May 16, 2023 • 6:16:30am

re: #241 No Malarkey!

Any day now Jack! We would really, really like Trump indicted soon enough so he can be tried before he gets “elected” President again!

I actually beleive that the indictments may be more important. Federal trials can yake a long time (18 months for indictment to trial I hitnk the average is). In the context of an election, it may be even longer. Even a convoction would not likely hurt him with his MAGA cult.

But indictments (particularly RICO ones) may well hurt him with the Independents, especially wih younger people. We shall see.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 16, 2023 • 6:17:54am

re: #69 retired cynic

Hunting has changed a lot. Back when my father hunted, he hunted primarily small game that we could eat. He really preferred fishing, and saved bird feathers with which to tie flies. When he became disabled, hunting was just not possible, and he built fishing rods and repaired them, and made his beer money doing that.

I don’t remember hearing about people being shot while hunting. Now, several horses we sold (one to Oregon, ww!) were shot and killed by hunters. Probably saw something brownish color and shot at it. Or missed a deer and was frustrated, and killed a horse (or a cow) just because they were out to kill something.

I used to deer and small game hunt in western PA in the mid-90s.* The items pop up in the paper, etc. of hunters getting shot. And it seemed to boil down to one of three situations:
1. Poor target identification - someone shooting something before it is clearly a valid target. I guess adrenaline and fear the prey will escape. (I’ve been in a situation where I saw something I thought was the front half of a deer - and then realized it was a person standing there. Really easy during small game season to confuse this when people are out there under trees wearing full camo.)

2. Hasty shooting (often rapid) - Someone fires 1-4 shots downrange after a fleeing deer. I unfortunately hunted with a few folk using lever-action rifles who somehow thought this was a thing to do. Plus I once was sitting on a hill with a friend waiting for a drive to commence off to our left. Someone in that drive saw a deer scampering off and took a snapshot at it. He missed, and we heard the bullet go wicker wicker wicker through the trees about 20’ over our heads. We left the hill pretty quickly at that point. (And the multiple deer exited over that hill a minute later as we saw them go by.) I also had unkind words with the person who made the shot because of #3…

3. Unknown or lack of backstop - Hunter education class stresses #1 and also that you know where the bullet will go if you miss. Which means something solid directly behind your target. Shooting uphill is bad or any sort of descending terrain since a bullet will carry for a long way. (I seem to recall them teaching that a .22 LR bullet can travel over a mile on a ballistic trajectory. And the roughly .30 caliber round out of a hunting rifle will go a lot further. They were generally designed to be able to hit and disable a man-sized target at 500 yards.

* - Mainly for eating purposes. Vension is good food.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2023 • 6:18:22am

You wonder where your tithe done went…

On “60 Minutes,” a Mormon bishop wouldn’t explain the LDS Church’s $100,000,000,000 stash

Guess a lot of it went to make that magic underwear…

friendlyatheist.substack.com

The Mormon Church had an opportunity to respond to claims that it’s hoarding well over $100 billion (!) in donations meant to go to charity on the most-watched news show in the country… but failed to do so in spectacular fashion.

On Sunday night, 60 Minutes aired a story about Ensign Peak Advisors, the investment firm that works with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and the whistleblower who realized how much money was coming in… but never going out for the intended purpose.

Most of the segment simply rehashed what we already knew from reporting. But a lot of people don’t read, and putting faces to the claims made the Mormon Church look pretty damn awful.

Here’s the backstory in case you missed it: In 2019, David A. Nielsen, a Mormon who worked for Ensign Peak as a senior portfolio manager, blew the whistle on what was happening:

The confidential document, received by the IRS on Nov. 21 [of 2019], accuses church leaders of misleading members — and possibly breaching federal tax rules — by stockpiling their surplus donations instead of using them for charitable works. It also accuses church leaders of using the tax-exempt donations to prop up a pair of businesses.

Nielsen and his brother Lars P. Nielsen allow the Washington Post to use their real names in an article and they provided supporting documentation to back up their claims. Their concern was that the tithe money taken in by the Church was designated for charity—and therefore exempt from taxes—but it was being used for radically different reasons, not “religious, educational or charitable activities.”

Only twice was that money spent anywhere, they said. Once, to bail out a “church-run insurance company,” and another time, for a church-owned shopping mall.

The allegation was so damning that the richest man in Utah, Jeff T. Green (a tech mogul worth about $5 billion), later submitted his resignation to the Mormon Church, specifically citing the drama with Ensign Peak in his letter.

This past February, we learned that the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) conducted an investigation looking at 20 years’ worth of filings made by Ensign Peak. While investment managers who hold over $100 million in assets are supposed to report their stockholdings every quarter (via a formed called 13F), the firm did it via “13 shell corporations with addresses located throughout the U.S.” That allowed the true wealth of the Mormon Church to remain hidden from its most devout members.

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darthstar  May 16, 2023 • 6:20:37am

re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is where things could backfire for the Freedom Caucus.

I said from the get go that McCarthy’s only hope of surviving as Speaker was if he could wrangle a handful of moderate Republicans who don’t want to see the country destroyed and get them to caucus with the Democrats.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 6:22:04am

re: #255 darthstar

I said from the get go that McCarthy’s only hope of surviving as Speaker was if he could wrangle a handful of moderate Republicans who don’t want to see the country destroyed and get them to caucus with the Democrats.

But once he has done that he will have committed political seppuku within his party: he will be run out as a traitor.

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2023 • 6:22:58am

re: #251 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

She has his emails! Oh, the irony!

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 16, 2023 • 6:24:35am

re: #247 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Unfortunately it is often the women who are held to be “slutty until proven innocent”. They still employ the “she was asking for it/she was wearing slutty underwear” argument to mitigate the fact that she was assaulted against her will.

In the context were discussing, its always a woman accusing a man.
That’s why they don’t have a chance

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2023 • 6:24:38am

re: #257 No Malarkey!

She has his emails! Oh, the irony!

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ericblair  May 16, 2023 • 6:25:35am

re: #255 darthstar

I said from the get go that McCarthy’s only hope of surviving as Speaker was if he could wrangle a handful of moderate Republicans who don’t want to see the country destroyed and get them to caucus with the Democrats.

My read is that the House goopers are just hoping/expecting Dark Brandon to fold, and have no idea what to do beyond that. Just like with being confronted with Trump as a nominee again, their only plan seems to be keeping their heads in the sand and hoping somebody else does something that makes the whole problem go away.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 16, 2023 • 6:26:20am

re: #231 silverdolphin

Centrist Dems are plotting a save-McCarthy strategy for the debt fight

Interesting. What if, in order to remain Speaker, he makes a deal with Democrats. Pass a clean debt ceiling bill and they will make sure he stays Speaker. Of course, that means they own him. Anything that can get done will have to include Democrats.Will McCathy’s thirst for power seal the deal?

kev gets to remain speaker and save the country
All he’s got to do is sell his political soul

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2023 • 6:27:39am

re: #261 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

kev gets to remain speaker and save the country
All he’s got to do is sell his political soul

Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence!

/

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 16, 2023 • 6:28:08am

re: #252 silverdolphin

I actually beleive that the indictments may be more important. Federal trials can yake a long time (18 months for indictment to trial I hitnk the average is). In the context of an election, it may be even longer. Even a convoction would not likely hurt him with his MAGA cult.

But indictments (particularly RICO ones) may well hurt him with the Independents, especially wih younger people. We shall see.

And the longer the list the better
People are persuaded by volume

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Nerdy Fish  May 16, 2023 • 6:28:30am

re: #256 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But once he has done that he will have committed political seppuku within his party: he will be run out as a traitor.

Qevin is between the proverbial rock and hard place. If he lets the country go into default, he saves face with the Freedumb Caucus and keeps his speaker’s chair, but destroys the country and any credibility the Republican Party has with anyone who’s not a “vote Republican even if it kills me” party loyalist. If he compromises with Dems and “moderate” Rs (I maintain there is no such thing anymore, but for the sake of argument), the Freedumb Caucus riot and ouster his ass.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2023 • 6:28:56am

Rudy Has A New Problem On His Hands

Will Ms. Dunphy’s counsel enter a certain excerpt from Borat’s Subsequent Movie Film into evidence?

oh my the plot thickens…

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2023 • 6:31:09am

re: #260 ericblair

My read is that the House goopers are just hoping/expecting Dark Brandon to fold, and have no idea what to do beyond that. Just like with being confronted with Trump as a nominee again, their only plan seems to be keeping their heads in the sand and hoping somebody else does something that makes the whole problem go away.

They can clearly get some things. Claw back unspent covid funds; that’s reasonable. Impose limits on the rate of increase of future federal spending; future Congresses will just suspend those if they need to. But there’s no way Biden is going to defund his signature accomplishments in response to blackmail. Then McCarthy is going to have to decide whether or not he is going to push the button on a massive economic and constitutional crisis, or if he is going to betray MAGA and become one of the most hated men in America. Sucks to be him.

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darthstar  May 16, 2023 • 6:31:09am

re: #260 ericblair

My read is that the House goopers are just hoping/expecting Dark Brandon to fold, and have no idea what to do beyond that. Just like with being confronted with Trump as a nominee again, their only plan seems to be keeping their heads in the sand and hoping somebody else does something that makes the whole problem go away.

He’s not going to fold. He’s going to be the jocular grandpa this country loves and say, “Oh, look what I found in my workshop…a copy of the 14th Amendment…let’s see how we can apply it to this situation.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 6:31:20am

re: #231 silverdolphin

Centrist Dems are plotting a save-McCarthy strategy for the debt fight

Interesting. What if, in order to remain Speaker, he makes a deal with Democrats. Pass a clean debt ceiling bill and they will make sure he stays Speaker. Of course, that means they own him. Anything that can get done will have to include Democrats.Will McCathy’s thirst for power seal the deal?

Followed by endless calls to vacate the chair by rotating members of the Wingnut Caucus.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2023 • 6:33:04am

Meanwhile Fucker C continues to throw a tantrum!

The mystery surrounding Tucker Carlson’s ouster from the airwaves at Fox News — and his future plans in media — are coming into sharper focus.

On April 26, Carlson spoke by phone with one of Fox Corp.’s eight board members, who told the host that his recent benching was a condition of Fox News’ settlement with Dominion Voting Systems, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the conversation.

The unnamed board member told Carlson that the condition does not appear in any of the settlement’s documents, and instead was a verbal agreement. If Fox didn’t comply, the settlement was off, Carlson was told. Dominion had plenty of leverage given that the $787.5 million deal to settle Dominion’s defamation suit against the network wouldn’t officially close until late-May.

If Dominion opted to blow up the deal, Fox would return to square one on settlement talks or potentially subject the Murdoch family empire to a jury trial that would undoubtedly expose more embarrassing details about the operation of Fox News and fallout from its 2020 president election coverage. Unlike Sean Hannity, Jeanine Pirro and Maria Bartiromo, Carlson wasn’t a key player in the suit that claimed Fox News repeatedly and knowingly aired false claims about the company with regards to the 2020 U.S. presidential election.

But Dominion was looking for the best way to maim the conservative news network, and forcing Fox News to cut ties with the most-watched personality in cable news would deal a potentially insurmountable blow and lead to a viewer exodus, according to Carlson’s understanding.

“That condition was intended to hurt Fox, and Tucker is just collateral damage,” says a source familiar with the matter. “Dominion wanted to punish Fox, and it’s working.”

Dominion and Fox Corp. both strongly dispute that the decision to take Carlson off the air was directly linked to the settlement.

“As the Fox principals who negotiated the settlement well know, Dominion made no demands about Tucker Carlson’s employment orally or in writing,” Dominion said in a statement. “Any claims otherwise are categorically false and a thinly veiled effort to further damage Dominion. Fox should take every effort to stop these lies immediately.”

variety.com

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darthstar  May 16, 2023 • 6:33:28am

re: #268 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Followed by endless calls to vacate the chair by rotating members of the Wingnut Caucus.

And each vote to vacate the chair will get one less vote as Republicans in safe districts start to get pressure back home to act like fucking adults and do their job.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 16, 2023 • 6:33:53am

re: #262 Targetpractice

Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence!

/

Political I think yes
Ethereal? Nah.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 16, 2023 • 6:40:01am

re: #162 No Malarkey!

Okay, I’m stilling chasing the thought process of American gun culture from yesterday and I feel this is another important element: this guy’s responses in this whole thread represent a kind of core sample of how American gun culture makes origami out of simple issues of cause and effect.

De facto, a firearm is made to efficiently cause harm…in hunting you select your weapon specifically to cleanly kill but also not tear apart the prey, in war you use weapons that are durable under extreme conditions and create casualties…that’s the AR-15. Weapons are tools to do killing efficiently and safely under differently labor conditions…that should be uncontroversial, technology is techne; the thing is what is does.

But the moment a gun is used to streamline the process of making a random person dead, suddenly the sole utility of the weapon is unimportant. That death would happen whether or not the gun was present, because the killer is evil and evil people will kill with anything on hand.

Which is really interesting to dissect in this case, because it’s a 12-year-old, and thus the signs of “evil” must be invented through implication…bad parenting, bad friends…but it is then taken as solidly true that the child is a type of person that will one day commit this kind of crime.

(No speculation that this particular crime could be the product of a misunderstanding or the child feeling under threat, and then responding in a manner consistent with cultural norms in which “self defense” is broadly interpreted.)

He cannot engage with the seriousness of the weapons or even their function, because he’s intent on finding a rhetoric in which there are no implications…no consequences that can be predicted…to ubiquitous carrying of weapons. He’s not defending firearms themselves, he’s defending them as a proxy of his own fantasy that he will use weapon competently to kill deserving targets, and denies that just as a function of math, more guns means more people with the ability to fire guns.

The other half of that fantasy is that there are simply people that deserve death, and the real error here is that a someone with the wrong D&D alignment was doing the discernment. It’s never really about the guns, it’s about their sense they’re the a priori GOOD GUYS such that they should be granted license to kill, and everyone else is an asshole to question that axiom.

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2023 • 6:40:57am

re: #268 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Followed by endless calls to vacate the chair by rotating members of the Wingnut Caucus.

Once the debt ceiling is raised, the House isn’t going to do fuck all anyway. They can have confidence votes in Qevin eight days a week as far as I care.

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Barefoot Grin  May 16, 2023 • 6:43:29am

re: #257 No Malarkey!

She has his emails! Oh, the irony!

Rudy the cyber guy.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2023 • 6:43:35am

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lawhawk  May 16, 2023 • 6:44:01am

The raccoons are manipulating Marsha, because that’s the only explanation for the word salad spewed claiming that Hillary colluded with Russia to lose the 2016 election.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 6:44:11am

re: #250 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Danzig in the streets…

::P

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darthstar  May 16, 2023 • 6:47:02am

Nice thread from Babyak’s ‘Daily Kimock’…

Mastodon

Mastodon

Mastodon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 6:50:52am

re: #276 lawhawk

The raccoons are manipulating Marsha, because that’s the only explanation for the word salad spewed claiming that Hillary colluded with Russia to lose the 2016 election.

There are a whole lot of deluded people in that thread. Propaganda works.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 6:51:58am

re: #276 lawhawk

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 6:53:07am

This whole crap claim from Republican supporters saying people like Jeff Tiedrich are “paid Democrat(ic) operatives,” even if that was true, is it illegal? No one ever asks them if that’s illegal.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 16, 2023 • 6:54:40am

re: #162 No Malarkey!

[Embedded content]

The 20-year-old has the hand tattoos of Eddie in Rocky Horror.

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2023 • 6:57:54am

re: #282 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

The 20-year-old has the hand tattoos of Eddie in Rocky Horror.

A detail I would never notice.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 16, 2023 • 6:58:53am

re: #272 The Ghost of a Flea

choosing to use a gun, in this kind of situation, is cowardice.

it is a coward’s way to get what he wants. to win. to be in control.

it creates distance/space - makes it a bit less personal and much easier to wreak havoc.

a lesser weapon - a knife, a basebal bat, even a brick, injects doubt as to the outcome.
- death to the target
- retaliation / injury or death to the aggressor
- repercussions, responsibilities, explanations later. the police, criminal charges, jail, lawsuits.

and it’s slower, way more up close and personal. you really have to want him dead and you have to be willing to do a lot more than aim and squeeze to ensure it gets done.

regardless of what or how they’re ‘taught’ or raised, these people are cowards

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 6:59:28am

The Atlantic, May 14, 2023

What I Learned From My Guest Role on Succession

[Caution: Article contains spoilers.]

Mr. Nichols notes some of the things that occur in the production of newscasts, and how easy it is for conservative hosts of such shows to fall into conspiratorial thinking.

He also notes one of the reasons they used actual conservative pundits for their newscast episode is because actors really can’t get into the conspiratorial thinking of some conservative pundits, whilst conservative pundits can.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 16, 2023 • 6:59:41am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 7:01:58am

re: #284 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

choosing to use a gun, in this kind of situation, is cowardice.

it is a coward’s way to get what he wants. to win. to be in control.

it creates distance/space - makes it a bit less personal and much easier to wreak havoc.

a lesser weapon - a knife, a basebal bat, even a brick, injects doubt as to the outcome.
- death to the target
- retaliation / injury or death to the aggressor
- repercussions, responsibilities, explanations later. the police, criminal charges, jail, lawsuits.

and it’s slower, way more up close and personal. you really have to want him dead and you have to be willing to do a lot more than aim and squeeze to ensure it gets done.

regardless of what or how they’re ‘taught’ or raised, these people are cowards

See also the entire Darkover series by Marion Zimmer Bradley, where any weapon which works beyond the reach of the user is considered dishonourable.

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steve_davis  May 16, 2023 • 7:03:16am

First we discover that Noelle Dunphy is suing Giuliani for being required to give Giuliani blowjobs during his calls with important people. Will Chris Licht sue Trump for being required to give him blowjobs during Trump’s town hall meetings?

(It’s a good line, I think. I no longer have twitter, so I can’t hone it to the requisite razor sharpness I would normally demand in my snark, but anyone here who wants to get out the strop is welcome to it).

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 16, 2023 • 7:05:35am

One of the consultants that helps us out took a long weekend for his child’s graduation.
A former President was there for his daughter Sasha’s graduation.

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darthstar  May 16, 2023 • 7:08:39am

Psst…hey buddy…wanna buy a pardon? Oh I hope this is recorded on tape somewhere…from the Dunphy lawsuit:

He also asked Ms. Dunphy if she knew anyone in need of a pardon, telling her that he was selling pardons for $2 million, which he and President Trump would split. He told Ms. Dunphy that she could refer individuals seeking pardons to him, so long as they did not go through “the normal channels” of the Office of the Pardon Attorney, because correspondence going to that office would be subject to disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act. ¶132

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2023 • 7:09:21am

re: #233 No Malarkey!

Qevin is in a bad spot. The only way he can appease the fascists is to burn the economy to the ground.

THIS. He’ll probably blink at the last minute then try to spin it as the GOP having “won” something. Who knows if the rubes will buy it?

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Nerdy Fish  May 16, 2023 • 7:09:53am

re: #290 darthstar

Psst…hey buddy…wanna buy a pardon? Oh I hope this is recorded on tape somewhere…from the Dunphy lawsuit:

Well, we know there ARE tapes, of some kind. I think being in the presence of any prominent Republican would mandate a hidden recording device of some kind at all times. You never know what sketchy stuff they’re going to bring up at any given moment.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 16, 2023 • 7:10:44am
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 16, 2023 • 7:10:50am

re: #284 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

We make the joke that deer aren’t armed. they don’t know there’s a “game” going on and they’re in it.

Its becoming that way with people.
They don’t know they’re being hunted

Which is where that stupid argument “everyone should be armed” nonsense comes in

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darthstar  May 16, 2023 • 7:12:25am
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Nerdy Fish  May 16, 2023 • 7:12:57am

re: #295 lawhawk

Biden may halt move of US Space Command to Alabama as a result of the state’s misogynistic and disastrous abortion law.

Oh, goody. Are we going to get another asinine lawsuit like the one in Georgia, claiming injury from MLB because they moved the All-Star Game from Atlanta over their electoral fuckery?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 16, 2023 • 7:13:48am

re: #245 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Had they (and the V-1 buzz bombs) been ready even six months earlier, they would have been the ideal area weapon to break up the staging areas and landing sites of the Normandy invasion.

Though they probably would have aimed at the wrong ports since the disinformation campaign being waged by the Allies had the Germans convinced that the landings were going to be at a different location and using Patton’s (fictional) FUSAG (First US Army Group).

And the Germans were slow to reinforce Normandy due in part to believing that it was a diversionary landing and the *real* landing was still to come where they had troops concentrated. (Also not helped by various leaders up to and including Hitler not being willing to give Rommel the reserve panzer divisions when he asked for them.)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 16, 2023 • 7:16:57am

re: #261 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

kev gets to remain speaker and save the country
All he’s got to do is sell his political soul

Again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 7:18:48am

We didn’t just bury Germany with industrial production, we outright outsmarted them several times (with Operation Mincemeat- convincing them that the invasion of Sicily was a diversion from the invasion of Greece).

The Soviets pulled off a similar coup, convincing the Germans they would attack farther south in summer of 1944 and that the initial attacks in Belarus were diversions until it was too late and the Red Army bagged another 250K prisoners.

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Nerdy Fish  May 16, 2023 • 7:21:50am

re: #300 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We didn’t just bury Germany with industrial production, we outright outsmarted them several times (with Operation Mincemeat- convincing them that the invasion of Sicily was a diversion from the invasion of Greece).

The Russians pulled off a similar coup, convincing the Germans they would attack farther south in summer of 1944 and that the initial attacks in Belarus were diversions until it was too late and the Russian bagged another 250K prisoners.

The British were also able to prevent any German agents from operating in Britain without their knowledge, and the Germans never quite figured out that the intelligence coming out of England was completely untrustworthy.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2023 • 7:22:47am

Marjorie Taylor Greene: House Republicans ‘plan to punish’ FBI and DOJ

rawstory.com

United States Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Georgia) told right-wing Real America’s Voice host Steve Bannon on Monday that Republicans in Congress plan to “punish” the Federal Bureau of Investigation and Department of Justice for supposedly covering up corruption committed by President Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

Burchett “confirmed GOP officials still could not ‘track down’ the key witness as of Monday morning, telling FOX Business’ Maria Bartiromo that the federal agencies such as the FBI and DOJ have ‘turned a blind eye’ to both the missing informant and the Biden family’s alleged corruption,” Fox News reported on Monday.

“The telling thing about this is that our Federal Bureau of Investigation and our Justice Department have basically just turned a blind eye to all of this and now it’s come down to the point where speaker McCarthy has to have a one-on-one meeting with Director Wray over the way that they’ve handled this and bungled this thing from the start,” Burchett said on Mornings with Maria. “They went after George Santos and, as I said, he’s relatively small potatoes, yet, when you have over ten million reasons to look at this White House and is going on - corruption and influence peddling - they even have a report that they issued apparently, but they are not very forthcoming with it as well.”

“Do you anticipate — cuz they’re not gonna, they’re not gonna cooperate with you — we had, uh, Congressman [Tim] Burchett [R-Tennessee] on earlier saying he’s prepared to move with you and others to start cutting funding in the appropriations process or sooner if need be, maybe in the dead ceiling negotiations to force FBI, to force DOJ to start to cooperate with, with the committee. Are you prepared to take those actions and if so, do you think that the speaker of the House will, will support you guys?” Bannon asked Greene.

“Oh, one hundred percent. Well, I have to tell you, I’m honored to serve with Congressman Burchett. He is a, he’s a strong conservative, he’s a great Republican, and he is one hundred percent right,” Greene replied. “We have to use the power of the appropriations to cut funding, and this is how we hold them accountable until the American people give us full control in Washington in 2024 where we have the Senate and the White House, this is the only tool we have. Is the budget and appropriations, and that is exactly where we plan to punish them. And I do believe that we will have the support of the speaker of the House. I feel very certain about that.”

Precisely what Putin and domestic right wing terrorists want…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 7:22:55am

re: #301 Nerdy Fish

The British were also able to prevent any German agents from operating in Britain without their knowledge, and the Germans never quite figured out that the intelligence coming out of England was completely untrustworthy.

As you mentioned earlier, information about the effectiveness of their V1 and V2 weapons was very distorted

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jeffreyw  May 16, 2023 • 7:23:34am
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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2023 • 7:23:44am

“America’s mayor” is a rapist, racist, misogynist, alcoholic, election-denier, and an all-around piece of shit. Yeah, we all saw that coming.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2023 • 7:23:51am

re: #64 silverdolphin

Our Yom Kippur service includes the following passage from Isaiah which presents the same very anti-Republican message:

58:3.

“Why, when we fasted, did You not see?
When we starved our bodies, did You pay no heed?”
Because on your fast day
You see to your business
And oppress all your laborers!

58:4.

Because you fast in strife and contention,
And you strike with a wicked fist!
Your fasting today is not such
As to make your voice heard on high.

58:5.

Is such the fast I desire,
A day for men to starve their bodies?
Is it bowing the head like a bulrush
And lying in sackcloth and ashes?
Do you call that a fast,
A day when the LORD is favorable?

58:6.

No, this is the fast I desire:
To unlock the fetters of wickedness,
And untie the cords of the yoke
To let the oppressed go free;
To break off every yoke.

58:7.

It is to share your bread with the hungry,
And to take the wretched poor into your home;
When you see the naked, to clothe him,
And not to ignore your own kin.

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Dr Lizardo  May 16, 2023 • 7:24:42am

re: #295 lawhawk

Biden may halt move of US Space Command to Alabama as a result of the state’s misogynistic and disastrous abortion law.

Move US Space Command to Seattle, Washington.

I mean, they’ve already got the Space Needle.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 16, 2023 • 7:26:08am

I think most gun control activists would allow that you should be allowed to have guns if you live in a war zone where enemy partisans, vigilantes, and terrorists are active. Since that pretty well summarizes Texas these days, I have finally started carrying guns (a shotgun and my M-1911) when I go into free fire zones like Weatherford or Fort Worth. I can’t carry these on my person, though, so I may have to hold my nose and buy a concealable handgun. Quite a racket the gun profiteers and the NRA have going.
Ammosexuals like to say things like, “Hurr, hurr, libtard, if you pass gun control you would have to give up your own guns.”
Er, no, you gullible tool. I would have to apply for a license and get vetted, and possibly register my guns (though I don’t think registration of individual firearms is necessary as long as gun owners themselves are licensed).
One of the many infuriating things about the daily massacre in our malls, school, and churches is the absolute stupidity of the fallacy that lies behind it, that gun control and total prohibition are one and the same, and that the latter is the real goal of gun grabbing liberals.
This is ultimately rooted in racist fear, that without guns, they will be helpless against rampaging hordes of “others,” whether raiders from the inner city (words actually used by one NRA owned Congress whore), or invading Mexicans, or marijuana crazed hippie marauders swarming down from Colorado.
They envision themselves as lone defenders of white womanhood and property, fighting off whole hordes by themselves. I should ask them sometime just how many urban welfare recipients or Mexican invaders constitute a “horde.” 30? 50? 11,000? It makes a difference you know. It’s enough that they think they need semi-auto rifles and million round ammunition caches.

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steve_davis  May 16, 2023 • 7:26:23am

re: #40 🔧-wench

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I was lost as soon as I was able to determine the Cox-Zucker machine was not a small airship powered by steam and flown by an eyepatch-wearing beaver and his trusty, bowler-wearing sidekick bear.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 16, 2023 • 7:27:02am

this happened yesterday
apropos, but with the frequency of these reports, it would have been hard to not happen near an ‘event’

I was food shopping.
One of several neighborhood stores I’ve gone to for 15+ years.
I’m walking out after paying and glance at the newsstand.
I see this headline

And at that moment, for some reason I realized, it could happen here.
Because that’s how it happens.
No warning.
Walking around the same store I never gave two thoughts about, could become a kill zone.

While I’m there.
Or not. Marjorie Stoneman Douglass is 20 minutes from here.

And I can’t predict it or stop it.
Now I can’t look at that Publix the same again.
I wonder if I’ll feel the same way about all the Publix stores?
Or about going outside in general.

But wow, it hit me.
We’re being hunted.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 16, 2023 • 7:28:34am

re: #290 darthstar

Psst…hey buddy…wanna buy a pardon? Oh I hope this is recorded on tape somewhere…from the Dunphy lawsuit:

I want the part where TFG is actually involved and it was more than just a stupid Rudy scheme he would ‘sell’ to TFG if anyone ever came across with the $2M.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 16, 2023 • 7:29:48am

re: #293 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

i didnt see this when i just wrote re: #310 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 16, 2023 • 7:31:09am

20 yo peeing in a sonic parking lot in Texas is approached by an employee. A physical altercation ensues. 12 year old in the car if the guy peeing opens fire on the sonic employee with an AR. Employee is killed. This is America.

npr.org

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lizardofid  May 16, 2023 • 7:31:21am

Heh, I just saw a 7-Eleven commercial rockin’ the intro to 1977.

nacionalrecords.com

Oh, good morning!

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sagehen  May 16, 2023 • 7:31:42am

re: #307 Dr Lizardo

Move US Space Command to Seattle, Washington.

I mean, they’ve already got the Space Needle.

the weather isn’t really conducive.

Take it to Mojave. Edwards AFB is geologically and meteorologically ideally suited to the task, it also has that Right Stuff history.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2023 • 7:31:47am

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darthstar  May 16, 2023 • 7:32:13am

re: #307 Dr Lizardo

Move US Space Command to Seattle, Washington.

I mean, they’ve already got the Space Needle.

Make abortion a federally supported procedure and begin moving military resources to states that don’t ban it…how important are places like Fort Bragg, Fort Hood, etc. to their respective host state’s economies anyway?

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 16, 2023 • 7:34:43am

re: #281 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This whole crap claim from Republican supporters saying people like Jeff Tiedrich are “paid Democrat(ic) operatives,” even if that was true, is it illegal? No one ever asks them if that’s illegal.

As if any of their guys aren’t paid. 😂😂😂😂

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2023 • 7:35:26am

re: #126 Targetpractice

It’s so cute that Tara still thinks anybody gives a flying fuck at a donut about her anymore.

Back in 2020, a girl friend expressed concern because some news programs she watched included interviews with Tara and she feared the allegation would be sufficient to allow Trump to win.

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darthstar  May 16, 2023 • 7:35:59am

re: #313 GlutenFreeJesus

20 yo peeing in a sonic parking lot in Texas is approached by an employee. A physical altercation ensues. 12 year old in the car if the guy peeing opens fire on the sonic employee with an AR. Employee is killed. This is America.

[Embedded content]

That 20 year old is going to get an earful from his parents…DO YOU REALIZE HOW BAD THAT MAKES YOUR LITTLE BROTHER LOOK? ALSO, THEY HAVE BATHROOMS AT SONIC!

12 year old will find some of his friends aren’t allowed to play with him anymore.

Parents will sue Sonic.

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steve_davis  May 16, 2023 • 7:36:35am

re: #64 silverdolphin

This is mind boggling. Sorry for the long quote from the Bible. As someone who has been a fallen Catholic for at least 5 decades I know how awful the Bible can be. But some of the direct words of Jesus are important and meaningful no matter your views. if for no other reason than they impact billions of people. Since I was in High School, I have found that using his direct words to be more useful when talking with these bigots who defile the work of Christ, because they cannot easily ignore the obvious words He spoke. Here, He tells everyone EXACTLY what needs to be done to get into Heaven. I have colored them red because in the Protestant Bible, His direct words are in red letters, deomnstrating their importantce. From Matthew 25:

31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.”

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’”

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’”

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’”

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’”

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’”

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

Whether Chirst was God or not, these are good words to live by. Helping the least of us makes a better society. Nothing about killing them or forcibly removing them.Not a single one of these supposed leaders advocates for the very things that would definitely get them into the Heaven (the poor, the sick, migrants, prisoners). They all demonstrate themselves by their actions that they are goats and will go to their eternal punishment.Their own religious founder does not give exceptions or alternative approaches. He is pretty definitive. None of these people are Christians no matter what they say. In Matthew 23, Christ tell us exactly what these people are, hypocrites.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 7:36:48am

re: #317 darthstar

Make abortion a federally supported procedure and begin moving military resources to states that don’t ban it…how important are places like Fort Bragg, Fort Hood, etc. to their respective host state’s economies anyway?

That is already an issue: the military is offering paid leave for members to seek medical care if it is unavailable where they are stationed (that means abortions) and GOP lawmakers are blocking military funding over the practice.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 16, 2023 • 7:37:34am

re: #313 GlutenFreeJesus

20 yo peeing in a sonic parking lot in Texas is approached by an employee. A physical altercation ensues. 12 year old in the car if the guy peeing opens fire on the sonic employee with an AR. Employee is killed. This is America.

npr.org

hence my adjusted screen name

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2023 • 7:40:30am

And what do I see today?

Another management position in Texas that nobody will apply for…full relocation expenses will be paid…no takers…

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2023 • 7:40:47am
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Thanos  May 16, 2023 • 7:41:22am

re: #323 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

hence my adjusted screen name

When your state is so awash in guns that 12 year-olds have arsenals.

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darthstar  May 16, 2023 • 7:42:09am

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2023 • 7:42:11am

re: #313 GlutenFreeJesus

20 yo peeing in a sonic parking lot in Texas is approached by an employee. A physical altercation ensues. 12 year old in the car if the guy peeing opens fire on the sonic employee with an AR. Employee is killed. This is America.

npr.org

The Modern GQP:
✔ “This is the price we pay for Freedumb.”
✔ “An armed society is a polite society”
✔ “12 year olds should own guns, have babies and get married”

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steve_davis  May 16, 2023 • 7:42:20am

re: #74 I Would Prefer Not To

This jew doesn’t have a problem with it.

Red letters are KJV for Jesus talking. Other bibles don’t do that because it’s understood that no, Jesus did not literally say these words, which are an English translation of his Aramaic, so don’t give them some special authority as the “real” word of god, or something.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2023 • 7:42:48am

re: #324 Joe Bacon ✅

And what do I see today?

Another management position in Texas that nobody will apply for…full relocation expenses will be paid…no takers…

Does this ultimately end with your company scaling down or pulling out of Texas because they can’t find enough bodies to keep things going?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 7:44:16am

re: #286 The Ghost of a Flea

This bullshyte talking point keeps cropping up every time someone criticises Apartheid Clyde.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2023 • 7:44:47am

re: #327 darthstar

that better be turkey bacon fat…

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darthstar  May 16, 2023 • 7:45:36am

re: #324 Joe Bacon ✅

And what do I see today?

Another management position in Texas that nobody will apply for…full relocation expenses will be paid…no takers…

Maybe the company should just relocate to a state that doesn’t pass laws making half their employees potential felons based on their gender.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 7:46:29am

re: #291 Eclectic Cyborg

THIS. He’ll probably blink at the last minute then try to spin it as the GOP having “won” something. Who knows if the rubes will buy it?

They’ll buy it. So many conservative voters parrot whatever they’re told to. Any honourable person has already left the GOP.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2023 • 7:46:29am

re: #333 darthstar

Maybe the company should just relocate to a state that doesn’t pass laws making half their employees potential felons based on their gender.

Or treat the female employees like second class citizens.

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2023 • 7:50:00am

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DodgerFan1988  May 16, 2023 • 7:52:02am
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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2023 • 7:53:02am

re: #160 Cheechako

Have to brag:

Wordle 695 2/6

….

Par for me for Tuesday.

Wordle 696 4/6

⬜🟨🟨⬜⬜
⬜⬜⬜⬜🟩
🟩🟩🟩⬜🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2023 • 7:54:20am

Top left:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 7:58:01am

re: #68 silverdolphin

Hoping I did not break some rule on LGF but red letters in the Bible are supposed to be the really important stuff. And I wanted to include all the relevant verses as I believe that they make a strong rhetorical approach.

I have found this approach does not often work on cult members but it can have a real effect on someone younger whose views have not hardened.

But let me know if I need to change anything.

33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.”

See? Democrats work for the Devil. They’re on the left.

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Dave In Austin  May 16, 2023 • 7:58:01am
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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2023 • 7:59:15am

re: #337 DodgerFan1988

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Elmo literally has to shit comment on everything. What an assclown.

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Eventual Carrion  May 16, 2023 • 7:59:37am

re: #339 Dr. Matt

Top left:

Same here

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2023 • 8:00:48am

re: #169 No Malarkey!

Interesting historical footnote: Japan’s Topix stock market index reached its highest level since the Tokyo real estate bubble burst in 1990. It only took 33 years to recover!

It’s still 25% lower than its height in 1989.

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darthstar  May 16, 2023 • 8:01:40am

Okay - props to the US defense department as well as the quick learning by Ukraine. Apparently the Patriot missile system we sent them went 6 for 6 last night in taking out Russian hypersonic Khinzai missiles before they reached their targets.

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2023 • 8:02:04am

re: #341 Dave In Austin

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Now I’ve seen it all: “it’s Biden’s fault”

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darthstar  May 16, 2023 • 8:03:09am

re: #338 Hecuba’s daughter

Par for me for Tuesday.

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Par for me as well, but I hadn’t had my coffee yet…or tea, as the case is this morning.

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Nerdy Fish  May 16, 2023 • 8:04:32am

re: #345 darthstar

Okay - props to the US defense department as well as the quick learning by Ukraine. Apparently the Patriot missile system we sent them went 6 for 6 last night in taking out Russian hypersonic Khinzai missiles before they reached their targets.

I thought the initial reports of Patriot batteries shooting those things down were misreported. Has it been confirmed, then?

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nines09  May 16, 2023 • 8:05:26am

We watched this last night.
It’s entertaining and full of action.
Bang bang vengeance and coming of age in…..
Jennifer Lopez does a great job at….

THE MOTHER | Jennifer Lopez | Official Trailer | Netflix

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 8:08:02am

re: #327 darthstar

In my good Catholic family, mom kept a jar of bacon drippings on the stove and used to fry the fish on Friday.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 8:10:09am

re: #344 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s still 25% lower than its height in 1989.

Back when we were all worried that Japan was going to take over the world.

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Belafon  May 16, 2023 • 8:11:08am

re: #339 Dr. Matt

Top left:

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I bought a case with a screen cover so I don’t have to worry about it, but, since I put my phone in my right pocket, it mostly ends up like top left just because the others would take work.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 16, 2023 • 8:11:53am

re: #339 Dr. Matt

Top left:

back left pocket
screen off, facing butt
these are policy

it tends to be top first because that’s how it’s being held/slid in

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2023 • 8:12:40am

re: #183 Grunthos the Flatulent 🇳🇿

MEtmb3RSR085VHRpcnh2KzhYUWhmdVlUV3creHYvU21melZRTlltV2xtK0JzK2p4SkR1Z1NSTldXZHY3d2JNMCt4VlpPcHBacDZEQXFpQ3UrQzUrVVpiNXljMVM3Vkdza2ttbzdpbGVEb3M9Ojo3JlHmWROc05UQQpCQaL5i

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 16, 2023 • 8:13:04am

re: #353 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

back left pocket
screen off, facing butt
these are policy

it tends to be top first because that’s how it’s being held/slid in

I’d think that sitting would endanger the phone when in a back pocket.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 8:13:21am

re: #353 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

back left pocket
screen off, facing butt
these are policy

it tends to be top first because that’s how it’s being held/slid in

left butt pocket, no particular in/our or up/down configuration. I also have case with folding screen cover.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2023 • 8:14:14am

re: #186 Targetpractice

IOW another “Curveball,” another asshat who’s offering the GQP what they want on the promise that they make his legal issues “go away.”

Someone doing the bidding of Netanyahu, one of Trump’s BFF.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 16, 2023 • 8:14:56am

re: #355 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

I’d think that sitting would endanger the phone when in a back pocket.

it’s only in a pants pocket when im standing / walking

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nines09  May 16, 2023 • 8:16:26am

If you have no case or screen protector on your iPhone you’re asking for trouble.
Plus when you protect it you can sell it for more when you buy a new one, because it’s looking good.
If you turn it over with a provider you usually lose.
Ebayed all my used ones and got more than any phone company was willing to give me.
Oh, and always buy your phone “unlocked”. If you don’t know what that is look it up. Save you a headache.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2023 • 8:17:13am

Well the little 12 year old punk who did the rage attack with his Iron Penis is facing a murder charge…

nbcdfw.com

A 12-year-old and a 20-year-old are both facing a murder charge after a restaurant employee was gunned down during an altercation with a customer Saturday night in Keene.

Flowers and a cross now stand outside the Sonic Drive-In on Old Betsy Road in Keene. It’s a growing memorial to Matthew Davis, a 32-year-old employee and father who was shot and killed while on the job Saturday night.

According to a statement from Keene Police, the shooting happened at about 9:40 p.m. Angel Gomez, 20, went to the Sonic with several passengers and was acting “disorderly” in the parking lot when Davis confronted him for urinating in the parking lot, Keene Police Chief James Kidd said.

The confrontation turned physical and a 12-year-old who was in Gomez’s car pulled out an assault rifle and fired six rounds at Davis, Kidd said.

Davis was struck multiple times and was taken by an air ambulance to a nearby hospital, but he did not survive.

Gomez and the 12-year-old fled the area, but Gomez eventually returned to the scene and was taken into custody. Police tracked the 12-year-old to Rio Vista where he was arrested.

Well looks like that 12 year old can’t hide behind “stand your ground” and that’s just oh too bad…

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2023 • 8:18:58am

re: #192 sagehen

Mixed emotions here. On the one hand, it’s certainly something I’d find plausible about TFG. On the other hand, Rudy’s hardly the most credible witness. So? Hmmm.

And so far there are no tapes or credible witnesses of Rudy making that claim. Since Trump never puts anything in writing except for his Tweets, it’s not clear there would be any proof anyway, unless one of those pardoned supported that assertion and that is very unlikely.

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lizardofid  May 16, 2023 • 8:19:33am

re: #360 Joe Bacon ✅

He’s still a 12 year old, and somebody else probably needs a share of this.

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Teukka  May 16, 2023 • 8:19:56am

re: #249 Teukka

Yep. And is wrong…

O holy fuck did that thread blow up…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 8:21:32am

235K!!!

Thank you all again for all the updings.

I have reached the last plateau before scrambling up to the summit of 250K, my lifetime achievement goal, at which point I can just put on lurker mode…

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2023 • 8:22:40am

Did I get this right?

Matthew Davis (the victim) has a criminal past.
The shooter is an illegal alien.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2023 • 8:23:31am

re: #362 lizardofid

He’s still a 12 year old, and somebody else probably needs a share of this.

According to the NBC report the 20 year old also got the murder charge.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 8:24:04am

re: #362 lizardofid

He’s still a 12 year old, and somebody else probably needs a share of this.

The older brother is also facing charges

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 8:24:28am

33 seconds

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Belafon  May 16, 2023 • 8:24:43am

re: #352 Belafon

I bought a case with a screen cover so I don’t have to worry about it, but, since I put my phone in my right pocket, it mostly ends up like top left just because the others would take work.

I just pulled my phone out and noticed it had been in the bottom left position. I realized that I will sometimes flip the phone in my hand to put the phone case side that is open in the down position (the case is like a hardcover book, and imagine puting a small book in your pocket so that the spine is on top).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 8:26:12am

re: #193 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Youtube keeps making changes and I don’t like them.

First off, the pages are now very fat. Take a lot to load and consumes CPU like crazy.

Then when one clicks on the “videos” tab on a channels home page, the videos come up sorted “For You”.

We aren’t given a choice as for default sorting.

Combine this with Youtube eliminating (a few months back) the sort-by-oldest capability and the frustration with Youtube keeps growing.

I don’t know about the CPU usage.

Since I have no account there (therefore I don’t log in), when I click on a person’s “videos” tab, they come up sorted latest to oldest.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 16, 2023 • 8:36:22am

re: #193 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Youtube keeps making changes and I don’t like them.

First off, the pages are now very fat. Take a lot to load and consumes CPU like crazy.

Then when one clicks on the “videos” tab on a channels home page, the videos come up sorted “For You”.

We aren’t given a choice as for default sorting.

Combine this with Youtube eliminating (a few months back) the sort-by-oldest capability and the frustration with Youtube keeps growing.

Edge went from taking 1.6% of my CPU to 10% when I loaded a YouTube page, but dropped back down when the page load completed.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 16, 2023 • 8:38:27am

re: #364 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

235K!!!

Thank you all again for all the updings.

I have reached the last plateau before scrambling up to the summit of 250K, my lifetime achievement goal, at which point I can just put on lurker mode

as if…

- after i prove to myself i can run a marathon i’ll never have to do it again
- who would ever run an ultramarathon?
- wait - more than once?

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2023 • 8:39:27am

Stevie has a sads!

rumble.com

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Captain Ron  May 16, 2023 • 8:40:01am

re: #371 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Edge went from taking 1.6% of my CPU to 10% when I loaded a YouTube page, but dropped back down when the page load completed.

8% for a second. Core0 and Core1 used 33% and 17%, the rest of the cores were low single digits or 0.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 8:40:43am

So Durham is to the GOP what the Müller Report was to the Dems?

The great expected bombshell that turned out to be a damp squib?

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Teukka  May 16, 2023 • 8:41:12am

re: #374 Captain Ron

8% for a second. Core0 and Core1 used 33% and 17%, the rest of the cores were low single digits or 0.

YouTube rolled out AdBlockBlocking, could it be related?

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Barefoot Grin  May 16, 2023 • 8:43:02am

re: #344 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s still 25% lower than its height in 1989.

I was there at the time. The Bank of Japan had so much money that they were strongly encouraging administrative units down to village level to come up with projects and apply for free grants—just throwing money around. Now Japan has more public debt than America (but they know not to default, somehow).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 8:44:07am

re: #322 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is already an issue: the military is offering paid leave for members to seek medical care if it is unavailable where they are stationed (that means abortions) and GOP lawmakers are blocking military funding over the practice.

And Sen. Tuberville is blocking all military officer promotions over it.

The GOP would rather burn down the whole country rather than compromise or concede anything.

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Captain Ron  May 16, 2023 • 8:45:06am

re: #376 Teukka

YouTube rolled out AdBlockBlocking, could it be related?

I use Adblock Plus. That could lower usage a lot I guess.

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austin_blue  May 16, 2023 • 8:45:15am

re: #64 silverdolphin

This is mind boggling. Sorry for the long quote from the Bible. As someone who has been a fallen Catholic for at least 5 decades I know how awful the Bible can be. But some of the direct words of Jesus are important and meaningful no matter your views. if for no other reason than they impact billions of people. Since I was in High School, I have found that using his direct words to be more useful when talking with these bigots who defile the work of Christ, because they cannot easily ignore the obvious words He spoke. Here, He tells everyone EXACTLY what needs to be done to get into Heaven. I have colored them red because in the Protestant Bible, His direct words are in red letters, deomnstrating their importantce. From Matthew 25:

31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.”

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’”

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’”

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’”

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’”

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’”

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

Whether Chirst was God or not, these are good words to live by. Helping the least of us makes a better society. Nothing about killing them or forcibly removing them.Not a single one of these supposed leaders advocates for the very things that would definitely get them into the Heaven (the poor, the sick, migrants, prisoners). They all demonstrate themselves by their actions that they are goats and will go to their eternal punishment.Their own religious founder does not give exceptions or alternative approaches. He is pretty definitive. None of these people are Christians no matter what they say. In Matthew 23, Christ tell us exactly what these people are, hypocrites.

This is the difference between small c and Capital C christians.

“Hypocrites” is exactly the right word, and the majority of “Christians” fall into that group.

As XTC wrote:

“Sunday morning they look fetching,
Saturday I saw him retching over our fence.”

From Respectable Street.

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Barefoot Grin  May 16, 2023 • 8:47:36am

re: #375 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So Durham is to the GOP what the Müller Report was to the Dems?

The great expected bombshell that turned out to be a damp squib?

I feel like the Barr summary was the abstract for the Durham report. After all, we know that they had scotch-drinking meetings to flesh out how Durham would proceed.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 8:48:09am

re: #337 DodgerFan1988

“Race-swapped?”

I see Space Karen let the conspiratorial libertarians at Zero Hedge back on his site.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 16, 2023 • 8:48:16am

re: #282 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

The 20-year-old has the hand tattoos of Eddie in Rocky Horror.

An homage to Robert Mitchum in Night of the Hunter (my excuse to mention a brilliant noir — with Lillian Gish as well).

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lawhawk  May 16, 2023 • 8:48:24am

re: #375 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So Durham is to the GOP what the Müller Report was to the Dems?

The great expected bombshell that turned out to be a damp squib?

Durham never had the info/evidence to warrant his being named as a special prosecutor in the first place. It was a purely partisan witch hunt for purposes of distracting from Trump’s other ongoing crimes.

Mueller repeatedly found misconduct by Trump, and Barr watered down the report by misrepresenting what Mueller actually found and said.

Apples to unicorns.

All the same, GOPers were far more vested in Durham finding just about anything, while Democrats and all non-MAGA were hopeful that Mueller’s report would trigger DOJ indictments for Trump’s criminal misconduct, including interfering in ongoing investigations, witness tampering, obstruction of Congress, etc.

We. Are. Still. Waiting.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 8:49:06am

re: #364 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

235K!!!

Thank you all again for all the updings.

I have reached the last plateau before scrambling up to the summit of 250K, my lifetime achievement goal, at which point I can just put on lurker mode…

What if we dangle two toasters for 750,000 points? Will that entice you to stay?

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piratedan  May 16, 2023 • 8:49:09am

re: #375 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

a small quibble, the Mueller report was strangled in its crib by Bill Barr and the media just went along and let him do it.

first with the restrictions imposed on what would be subject to investigation and then in the redaction of the released report and then in the shutting down of allowing Mueller to speak to it…..

AFAIK, no one bothered Durham and he was given extra time to do his work, such as it is and again, we have the narrative setters hard at work here spinning the outcomes “telling” us what was in it versus allowing people to review it and THEN comment on it. Hence all the smoke indicating that Trump is somehow exonerated when the entire premise was to find Dem duplicity as a counter-investigation to Mueller.

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lizardofid  May 16, 2023 • 8:51:14am

re: #377 Barefoot Grin

I was there at the time. The Bank of Japan had so much money that they were strongly encouraging administrative units down to village level to come up with projects and apply for free grants—just throwing money around. Now Japan has more public debt than America (but they know not to default, somehow).

Fuji wouldn’t be big enough for all the seppuku.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 8:54:50am

re: #385 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

What if we dangle two toasters for 750,000 points? Will that entice you to stay?

How about two toasters and a loaf of bread?

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 16, 2023 • 8:56:26am

Late blossoms in Aomori:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 8:56:30am

re: #378 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And Sen. Tuberville is blocking all military officer promotions over it.

The GOP would rather burn down the whole country rather than compromise or concede anything.

That was it, I knew some asshole was blocking something because he will not countenance the military paying for those sinners to sin at the taxpayers’ expense.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 8:56:42am

#feet is trending on Twitter (in the context of porn).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 8:57:17am

re: #388 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

How about two toasters and a loaf of bread?

How about two toasters, a loaf of bread, and a jar of marmalade?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 8:58:18am

re: #392 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

How about two toasters, a loaf of bread, and a jar of marmalade?

add ankle braces and concertina lessons and I’m all in.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 16, 2023 • 8:59:21am
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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 16, 2023 • 9:00:37am

re: #391 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

#feet is trending on Twitter (in the context of porn).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 9:02:33am

re: #394 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Can someone please teach this man how to laugh like a human?

He was taking lessons from Tucker Carlson

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2023 • 9:02:40am

re: #389 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Late blossoms in Aomori:

[Embedded content]

Back home there were several blocks with sour cherry trees. They had white blooms that produced the brightest red cherries…which were sooooo sour! Mom would have me pic several quarts and she’d wash & pit them and then she put them in a bowl and mixed a cup and a half of clear Karo syrup to make them OK for pie filling.

After Mom baked the pie Dad got the ice cream maker out, made the ice cream mix with ground vanilla beans (way before Breyer’s Ice Cream did that) and we’d churn vanilla ice cream. Nothing like fresh ice cream on a sweet cherry pie as a kid!

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 16, 2023 • 9:03:04am

re: #383 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

An homage to Robert Mitchum in Night of the Hunter (my excuse to mention a brilliant noir — with Lillian Gish as well).

I thought there might be an earlier origin for that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 9:03:34am

re: #397 Joe Bacon ✅

we have several sour cherry trees growing up in the vineyards, they should be starting to ripen in about six weeks.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 9:03:52am

Prude alert:

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 16, 2023 • 9:05:39am

re: #382 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“Race-swapped?”

I see Space Karen let the conspiratorial libertarians at Zero Hedge back on his site.

everyone knows cleopatra the egyptian looked just like liz taylor.
or was it claudette colbert?

they’d lose their collective shit over Carmen Jones, if any of them knew it existed at all

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🔧-wench  May 16, 2023 • 9:05:48am

Humphrey.

Wordle 696 5/6

⬜⬜🟨⬜🟨
🟨🟨⬜⬜⬜
⬜⬜🟩🟨⬜
🟩🟩🟩⬜🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

If I get another one next time, I’ll have 3 each of 3s, 4s, and 5s, and nothing else for this series.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 9:06:08am

re: #400 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Most never-married Christian men and women are not living lives of sexual chastity: study

Probably because most of them are normal people with normal sex lives and modern attitudes about sex, free of outdated Puritanical notions of chastity and purity.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 9:07:52am

re: #401 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

everyone knows cleopatra the egyptian looked just like liz taylor.
or was it claudette colbert?

they’d lose their collective shit over Carmen Jones, if any of them knew it existed at all

I remember that the Egyptians got upset when a black actor (Lou Gosset, Jr.) portrayed Anwar Sadat in a 1983 TV series.

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BeenHereAwhile  May 16, 2023 • 9:07:58am

re: #45 Captain Ron

Seth Cotlar, mostly now at the other places
SethCotlar
If it turns out that Trump really was selling pardons for a million bucks, then one wonders what he might have been willing to do with those valuable classified documents he took to Mar-a-Lago with him.

Source for the purge of Saudi “no-loyalists” by MbS?

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Dave In Austin  May 16, 2023 • 9:08:31am

re: #400 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2023 • 9:12:32am

re: #400 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Prude alert:

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Most never-married Christian men and women are not living lives of sexual chastity

They’re merely following the example set by Right Wing Pulpit Pimping Preachers who can’t keep Mr. Twinkee in their pants.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 16, 2023 • 9:13:11am

re: #407 Joe Bacon ✅

Most never-married Christian men and women are not living lives of sexual chastity

They’re merely following the example set by Right Wing Pulpit Pimping Preachers who can’t keep Mr. Twinkee in their pants.

Snorting meth off a gay prostitute’s ass?

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2023 • 9:14:06am

re: #408 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Snorting meth off a gay prostitute’s ass?

Like a certain…Crystal Methodist who once was the King of the Pulpit Pimps

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The Pie Overlord!  May 16, 2023 • 9:14:48am

JFC

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Barefoot Grin  May 16, 2023 • 9:15:09am

There are lots of cherry blossoms that were gifted to Portsmouth, NH as a thank you for hosting the treaty talks after the Russo-Japanese war. They didn’t blossom this year.

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🔧-wench  May 16, 2023 • 9:15:43am
Look at her, how confidently she just plucks the peanut out of the air! 😍

Mastodon

The translations offered at mastodon seem pretty good.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 9:16:20am

This ongoing obsession so many people have with bodily orifices and what goes into them and what comes out…I cannot get over it. A lot of folks seem to never outgrow their oral/anal fixation stage.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2023 • 9:16:50am

re: #410 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

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uh Kevin…I have $50 K in Savings bonds and T-Bills. You still gonna pay the interest you owe me on them?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 9:16:56am

re: #412 🔧-wench

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The translations offered at mastodon seem pretty good.

the gray-chested nutplucker

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Captain Ron  May 16, 2023 • 9:16:59am

The night attack on Kyiv: russian ‘unstoppable’ Kinzhal missile shot down again

According to preliminary data, during the enemy attack on Kyiv, the fall of rocket fragments was recorded in five districts. This was reported by the Kyiv City Military Administration.

DAILY KOS:

It seems that Patriot air defenses are better than everybody hoped, if the news from last night will prove to be true. Six hypersonic Kinzhals, the totality of missiles fired last night, plus a number of Kalibrs and drones, were downed last night by the UA air defenses! Not one, but six! Man that makes my day!!

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2023 • 9:18:57am

re: #268 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Followed by endless calls to vacate the chair by rotating members of the Wingnut Caucus.

Technically if the Democrats vote for McCarthy plus the handful of Republicans in the Problem-Solvers Caucus, he can remain as Speaker.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 9:20:25am

re: #417 Hecuba’s daughter

Technically if the Democrats vote for McCarthy plus the handful of Republicans in the Problem-Solvers Caucus, he can remain as Speaker.

Until he is up for election again, at which point he will be primaried with extreme prejudice.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 16, 2023 • 9:23:57am

re: #416 Captain Ron

The night attack on Kyiv: russian ‘unstoppable’ Kinzhal missile shot down again

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DAILY KOS:

I presume that if this reporting proves accurate that China will be taking notes since Taiwan has the Patriot system plus the various navies in the area use Standard missile systems. And if the hypersonic missiles can be intercepted effectively by these systems they might need to adjust any calculations they have made regarding an sort of war in the South China Sea.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2023 • 9:26:04am

Not a drag queen…AGAIN…

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lizardofid  May 16, 2023 • 9:26:31am

re: #404 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember that the Egyptians got upset when a black actor (Lou Gosset, Jr.) portrayed Anwar Sadat in a 1983 TV series.

Well, Sherman Hemsley was robbed.

//

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2023 • 9:27:21am

Your Free Market In Action!

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2023 • 9:29:59am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 16, 2023 • 9:32:20am

re: #404 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember that the Egyptians got upset when a black actor (Lou Gosset, Jr.) portrayed Anwar Sadat in a 1983 TV series.

All the more remarkable since Gosset bore a striking resemblance to Sadat.


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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 9:33:29am

re: #424 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

All the more remarkable since Gosset bore a striking resemblance to Sadat.

I know, but the Egyptian government seemed to be upset by the casting choice.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 16, 2023 • 9:35:51am

re: #310 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

Looking back on The Post headline I didn’t even register the double meaning till just now

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lizardofid  May 16, 2023 • 9:36:55am

re: #423 gocart mozart

Every time I see Desantis I’m reminded of this Bob from Enzyte. (May he meet a similar fate)

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 16, 2023 • 9:37:45am

re: #400 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Prude alert:

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Ffs those who vow a life of sexual chastity aren’t living one

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 9:38:48am

re: #428 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

Ffs those who vow a life of sexual chastity aren’t living one

Those who take marriage vows of fidelity aren’t necessarily living them either.

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2023 • 9:43:57am
431
Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 16, 2023 • 9:46:05am

Remember when tfg predicted Durham would reveal the ‘crime of the century’.

That it was all a conspiracy among intelligence officials and law enforcement to undermine his 2016 presidential campaign.

We remember

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Nerdy Fish  May 16, 2023 • 9:46:53am

re: #431 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

Remember when tfg predicted Durham would reveal the ‘crime of the century’.

That it was all a conspiracy among intelligence officials and law enforcement to undermine his 2016 presidential campaign.

We remember

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2023 • 9:49:16am

Bull Durham!

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2023 • 9:53:23am

re: #431 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

Remember when tfg predicted Durham would reveal the ‘crime of the century’.

That it was all a conspiracy among intelligence officials and law enforcement to undermine his 2016 presidential campaign.

We remember

Yes and we remember how FAUX, OANN and SNOOZEMAX were reciting it endlessly along with Hate Radio, Pulpit Pimping Preachers and every other cog in the 24/7 GOP Bullshit Machine!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 9:55:19am

re: #405 BeenHereAwhile

Source for the purge of Saudi “no-loyalists” by MbS?

2017-2019 Saudi Arabian purge (Wikipedia)

Media outlets reported widely on it at the time. Royal family members were confined in the Ritz Carlton hotel in Riyadh. The hotel ordered all guests out. This was carried out as the final move to make King Abdullah irrelevant.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2023 • 9:56:07am

re: #433 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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silverdolphin  May 16, 2023 • 9:59:23am

re: #268 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Followed by endless calls to vacate the chair by rotating members of the Wingnut Caucus.

This is why a deal must be made with Jeffries. As long as McCarthy plays his part, enough Dems will vote to keep him Speaker. The Freedom Caucus can pond sand. I think power is what he cares about more than policy. If he does not play his part, the Dems throw him to the wolves. And thus the Dems capture a Republican Speaker. (I do not think this will happen but it would make a great episode of The West Wing)

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Captain Ron  May 16, 2023 • 10:01:45am
439
Jay C  May 16, 2023 • 10:08:28am

re: #438 Captain Ron

I realize it’s The Onion, and all: but I’m also convinced there are a non-trivial number of our fellow citizens out there who would readily believe this satire, and assume it’s true….

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 16, 2023 • 10:14:06am

re: #439 Jay C

I realize it’s The Onion, and all: but I’m also convinced there are a non-trivial number of our fellow citizens out there who would readily believe this satire, and assume it’s true….

Sure, but just the same deeply-stupid people who got involved in this moral panic in the first place.

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Nerdy Fish  May 16, 2023 • 10:15:55am

re: #433 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Bull Durham!

New derogatory term: “Durham Bull,” for egregious bullshit that’s been hyped up, dire predictions, the whole nine yards, then disappears with a whimper.

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A Three Hour Tour  May 16, 2023 • 10:18:31am

re: #330 Eclectic Cyborg

Does this ultimately end with your company scaling down or pulling out of Texas because they can’t find enough bodies to keep things going?

I believe when Joe mentions these unfilled management positions he’s seeing with no one willing to take, he’s talking about positions with his employer, the Social Security Administration, a U.S. government agency.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2023 • 10:19:17am

re: #439 Jay C

I realize it’s The Onion, and all: but I’m also convinced there are a non-trivial number of our fellow citizens out there who would readily believe this satire, and assume it’s true….

I remember when The Onion did the goof on the Abortionplex and Republican officeholders took it as fact.

444
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 10:20:43am
445
CleverToad  May 16, 2023 • 10:22:12am

re: #183 Grunthos the Flatulent 🇳🇿

In this Wordle and the next.

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A Three Hour Tour  May 16, 2023 • 10:24:12am

re: #282 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

The 20-year-old has the hand tattoos of Eddie in Rocky Horror.

The guy in the picture with the tattoos and facial piercings is the Sonic employee who was murdered by the 12 year old for confronting the urinating 20 year old.

447
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 10:24:47am

Another candidate who’s left the Democratic Party in Nebraska over the party ignoring our state while we fight off the bigot brigade. She is running as an independent for District Four (West Omaha, likely to win).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 10:28:12am
449
CleverToad  May 16, 2023 • 10:28:16am

re: #197 TarHellion

Ideal weather and first-round pin position means birbie.

Taking MrsTarH to her CTA scan this morning. Will determine whether she needs carotid surgery. Hoping for the best.

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Many fingers crossed for you and MrsTarH! Hoping for the best, most effective treatment done SOON.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 16, 2023 • 10:28:21am

re: #446 A Three Hour Tour

The guy in the picture with the tattoos and facial piercings is the Sonic employee who was murdered by the 12 year old for confronting the urinating 20 year old.

Yes, it was weird to picture a victim who looks 20ish with someone who looks 12ish in an article about a psycho 20 and 12 year old.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 10:31:43am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 16, 2023 • 10:32:50am

re: #439 Jay C

I realize it’s The Onion, and all: but I’m also convinced there are a non-trivial number of our fellow citizens out there who would readily believe this satire, and assume it’s true….

Well… there are helicopter parents who I almost think would try to do that to their child in order for said child to be competitive (believing crap about what trans does) as they live their lives vicariously through said child.

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aatharuv  May 16, 2023 • 10:37:44am

re: #401 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

everyone knows cleopatra the egyptian looked just like liz taylor.
or was it claudette colbert?

they’d lose their collective shit over Carmen Jones, if any of them knew it existed at all

There are a minority of black Egyptians. However, Cleopatra was not one of them.

Cleopatra was _not_ an ethnic Egyptian.

Cleopatra was almost entirely of Macedonian Greek origin, with a couple of distant Persian ancestors in the mix. The Ptolemy dynasty of Egypt, which she belonged to, practiced incestuous marriage, and they weren’t keen on mingling with ethnic Egyptians, and her family tree was really a family bush.

Cleopatra was the last member of the Ptolemaic dynasty, but the first of their dynasty to even speak the Egyptian language — all her father-uncle’s and mother-aunt’s only spoke Greek.

She certainly didn’t look like Liz Taylor, but she didn’t look like Lena Horne either. Gal Gadot, or any _other_ person native to near the Mediterranean coast would have been a much better fit.

Even the ethnic ancient Egyptians still form the majority of ancestry of modern Egyptians — who are mostly brown skinned, though there are minorities of people who can pass as white or black by _American_ standards, sometimes in the same family.

Upper Egyptians (people from the southern part of Egypt), do have more Nubian (African) ancestry and many people from there (like Anwar Sadat, who also had Sudanese ancestry) would be considered black in America. Queen Nefertiti is another ancient Egyptian who might have been black, and there was an entire dynasty of pharoah’s from Nubia, who would have also been considered black.

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Dr Lizardo  May 16, 2023 • 10:45:47am
Cleopatra was almost entirely of Macedonian Greek origin, with a couple of distant Persian ancestors in the mix. The Ptolemy dynasty of Egypt, which she belonged to, practiced incestuous marriage, and they weren’t keen on mingling with ethnic Egyptians, and her family tree was really a family bush.

Can’t remember where I read it, but it basically went “Cleopatra may have been, according to some, a ravishing beauty. But she was also the direct result of several generations of Ptolemaic inbreeding and was, in fact, married to her younger brother, so make of that what you will.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 16, 2023 • 10:47:08am

Another pro-rape Christian (what a thread, this guy just keeps doubling down on why rape is good, actually).

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2023 • 10:53:10am

re: #444 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And here’s the fucked up thing: Even if Biden capitulated and gave the GOP EVERYTHING THEY WANTED (trust me, I know he won’t do that) on the debt ceiling, Republicans would STILL attack him for “not going far enough” or some other bullshit.

There is no winning with these people when you are a Democrat.

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silverdolphin  May 16, 2023 • 11:17:50am

re: #329 steve_davis

Red letters are KJV for Jesus talking. Other bibles don’t do that because it’s understood that no, Jesus did not literally say these words, which are an English translation of his Aramaic, so don’t give them some special authority as the “real” word of god, or something.

Yep. Being raised a Catholic, I never saw the red letters (Of course, as a Catholic we were not supposed to read the Bible anyway ;-) It was the Bible Thumpers in High School, the Southern Baptists, who showed me the red letters and told me they were the true words of the Messiah. Trying to tell them about Aramaic and such did no good. They felt that God would not have allowed them to be translated that way unless they were true.

So I use their own words when I make this point. The Bible tells them exactly how to get into Heaven and exactly how they will end up in Hell. And few of them follow this.

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TedStriker  May 16, 2023 • 11:56:08am

re: #126 Targetpractice

It’s so cute that Tara still thinks anybody gives a flying fuck at a donut about her anymore.

re: #154 Targetpractice

Still never be as cute as this:

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Video

Illegally smol.


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