Bruce Hornsby & Ezra Koenig: “Sidelines” (Feat. Blake Mills)

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I’m traveling now to Salem
I’m a judge at a jury trial
Got to get there by morning sunrise
Got to save someone’s innocent life

Bruce Hornsby & Ezra Koenig - Sidelines (feat. Blake Mills) [Official Music Video]

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Director: Kitty Ninon Anais Faingold

Lyrics:
I’m traveling now to Salem
I’m a judge at a jury trial
Got to get there by morning sunrise
Got to save someone’s innocent life

Open up, open up hysteria
Fear at a, at a fever pitch
Fever streets walk don’t walk
Crowded sky of ventilators
Antennas out, under the
Moving sky moving sky

Moving road, billboards flying by
Rental cars, tubes and tires and chains
Everything around me silently linked
Signs generating reality

Open up, open up hysteria
Fear at a, at a fever pitch
Fever streets walk don’t walk
Crowded sky of ventilators
Antennas out, under the
Moving sky moving sky

Now every surface lethal
Wipe it down and change your mood
A shapeless, creeping, growing thing
A Salem barrister’s Waterloo
Open up, open up hysteria
Fear at a, at a fever pitch
Fever streets walk don’t walk
Crowded sky of ventilators, antennas out
Under the moving sky moving sky

Open up, open up hysteria
Fear at a, at a fever pitch
Fever streets walk don’t walk
Crowded sky of ventilators
Antennas out, under the
Moving sky moving sky

As we sit on the sidelines

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301 comments
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teleskiguy  Jun 10, 2023 • 9:21:02pm

It’s a music thread.

Walter Trout - Jericho Road

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jaunte  Jun 10, 2023 • 9:21:16pm

Lately I’ve been reading Manhattan Transfer, John Dos Passos; this lyric fits it well.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 10, 2023 • 9:23:31pm

re: #119 Targetpractice

More of the “strong man” rhetoric: “Only I…” Only I can save you. Only I can give you riches. Only I can make you powerful. Only I can give you everything you want. And only I can do all this without fail. All you have to do is believe in me utterly and follow me without question.

Be so nice on the outside
But inside, keep ambition
Don’t cry because you hunt them
Hurt them first, they’ll love you
There’s a millionaire above you
And you’re under his suspicion
-The Who-

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2023 • 9:23:45pm

Into the Spider-verse is on TV (Across the Spider-verse was really good, btw). Caught this:

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William Lewis  Jun 10, 2023 • 9:25:23pm

And we’re off to a rip roaring start tonight.

Underaged guest wants a key. Our policy is that a parent must get key. The parent is not here. Calls asking me to give child a key. I explain that i can’t without a parent and id. Says will show id and give a $50 bribe tip when gets back. I say, I can’t do that because it’s a security problem - I don’t know who she is. Not a happy camper. I expect the manager to get a complaint in the morning.

Lots of drunks tonight too. SIgh.

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Targetpractice  Jun 10, 2023 • 9:27:07pm

re: #206 retired cynic

Four years ago I bought my very own first car, bought on my own, with no co-signers. In my 70s. Got a Honda CRV. Again very basic. I don’t drive much anymore, but I wanted something to last me the rest of my driving life. And it had the best back support of any I tried. It is now paid off, and the warranty is out, so I hope it lives up to its reputation and doesn’t immediately start coughing up transmissions or front axles.

Same deal myself, bought my first car couple years ago, a 2016 Ford Fusion that came with all the bells and whistles. Other than the hit-and-run on the highway one night on the way to work that put a crease in the rear passenger quarter panel and door that had to be repaired (VA law meant I only paid the insurance deductible), she’s given me only one issue since I bought her: A fuel system purge valve getting stuck open that took a couple days at the dealership because they had to order a part.

I plan to drive her til the doors fall off, again as is tradition.

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teleskiguy  Jun 10, 2023 • 9:28:47pm

Believe the Lie

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 10, 2023 • 9:30:21pm

and now for something completely different.

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Targetpractice  Jun 10, 2023 • 9:31:03pm

re: #5 William Lewis

And we’re off to a rip roaring start tonight.

Underaged guest wants a key. Our policy is that a parent must get key. The parent is not here. Calls asking me to give child a key. I explain that i can’t without a parent and id. Says will show id and give a $50 bribe tip when gets back. I say, I can’t do that because it’s a security problem - I don’t know who she is. Not a happy camper. I expect the manager to get a complaint in the morning.

Lots of drunks tonight too. SIgh.

Got a drunk as my first customer through the door just as my coworker drove off the lot. Guy says he’s here to check-in and gives me name, but nothing pops up in the system. He shambled off outside to his cellphone, but before he even shows me the confirmation I’ve already guessed what it confirms: He booked at our sister property, then set his GPS to the first place that came up in the search. In his mind, this had to be the right place because it’s “close” to Town Center, even though it looks nothing like the picture on the phone and the address is over 10 minutes drive away.

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jaunte  Jun 10, 2023 • 9:31:26pm

re: #8 I Would Prefer Not To

You live near the McConnells?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 10, 2023 • 9:43:45pm

re: #10 jaunte

You live near the McConnells?

thank go NO.

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2023 • 9:55:13pm

re: #4 Belafon

Also, Stephan Curry is a star baseball player.

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William Lewis  Jun 10, 2023 • 10:27:44pm

Well one present tonight, the soccer team pizza party that I am cleaning up after left behind one pizza box with a sausage pie with only one piece gone. I’ll accept the win.

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teleskiguy  Jun 10, 2023 • 10:41:54pm

As long as it’s not an Eaton 18 speed I can drive any manual transmission vehicle out there.

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Targetpractice  Jun 10, 2023 • 10:45:15pm

Ah, I’d almost forgotten one of the “joys” of the summer season, the endless calls on Saturday nights from folks who mysteriously wound up in the city without any clue and are now calling me in the dead of night to beg for a room. *eyeroll*

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William Lewis  Jun 10, 2023 • 10:48:15pm

re: #14 teleskiguy

As long as it’s not an Eaton 18 speed I can drive any manual transmission vehicle out there.

Once you get skip shifting down, they’re as easy as anything else on the road.

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teleskiguy  Jun 10, 2023 • 10:49:10pm

I hear thunder.

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William Lewis  Jun 10, 2023 • 10:49:30pm

re: #15 Targetpractice

Ah, I’d almost forgotten one of the “joys” of the summer season, the endless calls on Saturday nights from folks who mysteriously wound up in the city without any clue and are now calling me in the dead of night to beg for a room. *eyeroll*

Or walk in and then squeal that the last room you’re already discounting for as much as the bosses will allow you to is “way too much”

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teleskiguy  Jun 10, 2023 • 11:01:45pm

re: #17 teleskiguy

It’s raining. It’s also windy.

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Targetpractice  Jun 10, 2023 • 11:03:06pm

re: #18 William Lewis

Or walk in and then squeal that the last room you’re already discounting for as much as the bosses will allow you to is “way too much”

Only ones that are funnier are the ones who show up with a ridiculously cheap rate…and ask if you offer AAA/Military/Senior discounts as well.

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2023 • 11:09:02pm

re: #15 Targetpractice

Ah, I’d almost forgotten one of the “joys” of the summer season, the endless calls on Saturday nights from folks who mysteriously wound up in the city without any clue and are now calling me in the dead of night to beg for a room. *eyeroll*

Back in 2017, when my oldest son graduated from college in Iowa, we attempted to drive back to Rockwall that evening. There were only two things wrong. The first was that my son had neglected his tires, and so they were down to the wire in some parts. The second was the storm that blew through that would stretch down into Texas, dumping a bunch of rain on us and would produce tornadoes south of Dallas and in upper Missouri.

We had stopped at a Walmart and got the tire I had noticed was balding. When the mechanic got done, at closing time, he informed me that the other one was balding as well. Had he informed me earlier, I would have asked for both tires to be replaced. So we got back on the road.

Then the rains came. Driving a car with three wheels with traction in the hills we went through as it was pouring so hard I could barely see the lane stripes was one of the most harrowing thing I have ever done (I’m glad my kid didn’t end up driving).

When it started clearing a little, around 9pm, I had my son look up hotels ahead. Luckily we found one that had a couple of open rooms, and they were able to take us in. I forget the hotel, but while it wasn’t a major chain, it was a large hotel.

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2023 • 11:10:14pm

I’m watching a late night made for TV ad for a Ninja outdoor air fryer that allows you to use woodchips to smoke if you want.

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2023 • 11:11:51pm

Now, BTW, I’m hungry for steak.

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2023 • 11:13:40pm
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Belafon  Jun 10, 2023 • 11:16:48pm
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William Lewis  Jun 10, 2023 • 11:29:37pm

Ate several slices of that pizza out of frustration at the brats :) between last night and tonight. Not good for the diet. Well, I’ll behave tomorrow and put my sammy in the fridge till then. Time to mop while waiting for the last two arrivals and someone who won’t whine that our prices are too high for the last room.

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2023 • 11:36:12pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 10, 2023 • 11:39:23pm

re: #21 Belafon

Back in 2017, when my oldest son graduated from college in Iowa, we attempted to drive back to Rockwall that evening. There were only two things wrong. The first was that my son had neglected his tires, and so they were down to the wire in some parts. The second was the storm that blew through that would stretch down into Texas l, dumping a bunch of rain on us and would produce tornadoes south of Dallas and in upper Missouri.

We had stopped at a Walmart and got the tire I had noticed was balding. When the mechanic got done, at closing time, he informed me that the other one was balding as well. Had he informed me earlier, I would have asked for both tires to be replaced. So we got back on the road.

Then the rains came. Driving a car with three wheels with traction in the hills we went through as it was pouring so hard I could barely see the lane stripes was one of the most harrowing thing I have ever done (I’m glad my kid didn’t end up driving).

When it started clearing a little, around 9pm, I had my son look up hotels ahead. Luckily we found one that had a couple of open rooms, and they were able to take us in. I forget the hotel, but while it wasn’t a major chain, it was a large hotel.

I should clarify that when I say “without a clue,” I’m mostly referring to those people who decided on a lark to travel an hour or longer to vacation here on the logic that they could “figure something out when [they] got here.” Bonus points if they decided to do their sightseeing, beach-walking, dining, etc before thinking that it might be a good idea to look for a place to sleep that night. I honestly dread these folks, because if you do have rooms then they’ll try to argue with you over the price, then try to book it online for cheaper, and will almost always have complaints about the room after check-in as though they had their choice of places to stay and deigned to choose you at random.

By contrast, I have all sorts of sympathy for folks who wound up on our doorstep due to unforeseen events. We’ve had people here who had houses burned/flooded/damaged/etc, hurricane victims, here to take care of family, here because of work emergencies, and all similar situations. If somebody like that shows up here in the night looking for a room, I’m willing to help them in any way I can. But even then, I’m sad to say that I’ve had more than one case of such help being rewarded with everything from abuse to threats to theft.

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William Lewis  Jun 10, 2023 • 11:39:48pm

Fuck. Just got time to go get the dirty towels out of the pool area, check the chemicals etc? Area is trashed. Almost as bad as if a hockey team were in house instead of soccer and basketball teams. Towels everywhere, pizza boxes (no food allowed but hey, that’s for other people!) too. Three partially eaten slices of pizza floating around in the water that I can’t reach. Just a pigsty.

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Targetpractice  Jun 10, 2023 • 11:40:40pm

re: #22 Belafon

I’m watching a late night made for TV ad for a Ninja outdoor air fryer that allows you to use woodchips to smoke if you want.

My dad was watching Aussie football this morning when I got home from work and the commercial on the screen was for a glass office chair mat. That one still amazes me, that there’s such a demand for such that it warrants TV advertising.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 10, 2023 • 11:40:54pm

re: #14 teleskiguy

As long as it’s not an Eaton 18 speed I can drive any manual transmission vehicle out there.

My daughter wants to learn to drive a stick, if we can find anyone who has one and is willing to teach her.

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Targetpractice  Jun 10, 2023 • 11:42:07pm

re: #29 William Lewis

Fuck. Just got time to go get the dirty towels out of the pool area, check the chemicals etc? Area is trashed. Almost as bad as if a hockey team were in house instead of soccer and basketball teams. Towels everywhere, pizza boxes (no food allowed but hey, that’s for other people!) too. Three partially eaten slices of pizza floating around in the water that I can’t reach. Just a pigsty.

Get photos, perhaps even video. Document everything. And send it all to everybody above you in the office food chain. Best case scenario is you can get the group banned from the hotel.

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2023 • 12:03:44am

re: #32 Targetpractice

Get photos, perhaps even video. Document everything. And send it all to everybody above you in the office food chain. Best case scenario is you can get the group banned from the hotel.

Should have but it’s cleaned up except for the floaters since I can’t reach them. They’ll have to shock the pool in the morning to deal with that. Plus I just got a call from one of my two remaining reservations asking if he had a reservation here… betting he was at the other hotel and they’re saying “nope”.

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Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2023 • 12:17:57am

re: #33 William Lewis

Should have but it’s cleaned up except for the floaters since I can’t reach them. They’ll have to shock the pool in the morning to deal with that. Plus I just got a call from one of my two remaining reservations asking if he had a reservation here… betting he was at the other hotel and they’re saying “nope”.

Yeah, the drunk fellow from earlier should count his lucky stars that he stumbled in when he did. If he’d been an hour later he truly would have been SOL as our sister location only have check-in until midnight, then their front desk closes until 7am the following morning. Had more than one person call me after midnight to first tell me to open the door, then ask/order me to call somebody who works there to do it after I tell them they’ve got the wrong number, before asking me if they’re really supposed to sit in their car until 7am (signs point to “yes”).

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No Malarkey!  Jun 11, 2023 • 12:21:29am

re: #34 Targetpractice

Yeah, the drunk fellow from earlier should count his lucky stars that he stumbled in when he did. If he’d been an hour later he truly would have been SOL as our sister location only have check-in until midnight, then their front desk closes until 7am the following morning. Had more than one person call me after midnight to first tell me to open the door, then ask/order me to call somebody who works there to do it after I tell them they’ve got the wrong number, before asking me if they’re really supposed to sit in their car until 7am (signs point to “yes”).

There’s been no room at the inn for 2,000 years, and people still can’t figure out that they need to plan ahead.

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2023 • 12:22:33am

re: #34 Targetpractice

Yeah, the drunk fellow from earlier should count his lucky stars that he stumbled in when he did. If he’d been an hour later he truly would have been SOL as our sister location only have check-in until midnight, then their front desk closes until 7am the following morning. Had more than one person call me after midnight to first tell me to open the door, then ask/order me to call somebody who works there to do it after I tell them they’ve got the wrong number, before asking me if they’re really supposed to sit in their car until 7am (signs point to “yes”).

Yeah, he’s pretty drunk too. In a taxi, thankfully. Here for a 5 day stay so hopefully not a troublemaker, though he had a hard time getting his door opened… O_O

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2023 • 12:23:35am

Eh, last one was supposed to be here for the tournament and no CC on file. Canceled reservation, started audit process.

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Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2023 • 12:36:28am

re: #35 No Malarkey!

There’s been no room at the inn for 2,000 years, and people still can’t figure out that they need to plan ahead.

I’ve had so many people just admit to me that they got up one morning, decided “I wanna go to the beach,” and that was the full extent of their thought process. Just packed a few things (sometimes not even a change of clothes), then jumped in their car and started driving. And none of them realizing that thousands of others made the same or similar decision and are now wandering from hotel to hotel in search of a bed.

The truly hilarious ones are those who then compound their bad choices by asking if you can give them a late checkout for free because “we checked in so late.”

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2023 • 12:52:43am
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Belafon  Jun 11, 2023 • 12:53:40am

Oh, Maggie, never stop being you (/sarc):

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2023 • 12:58:53am
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Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2023 • 1:24:36am

re: #40 Belafon

Oh, Maggie, never stop being you (/sarc):

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Another reminder why no self-respecting lawyer would want this man as a client. This is the sort of shit that you’d be all but begging him to stop before the trial, yet he thinks it’s a boon for him.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 1:57:29am

From the previous thread, my first car was a 1976 Chevy Vega Nomad I bought in 1978 with 22,000 miles on it.

A Vega Nomad is pictured in this article from Jalopnik. Mine was powder blue.

jalopnik.com

I sold the car in 1984 with 250,000 miles on it. At the time it had an exhaust system problem I could not afford to repair.

My second car was one my mother gave me, her 1973 Ford Mustang II.

The first new car I owned replaced that one, a 1987 Nissan Sentra. It turned into my home when I was homeless. It was destroyed by a tornado on May 4, 2003. During the time I owned that car, when I was stationed in Spain I bought a 1977 Citroen GS which looked like it was rolled down a mountainside, pushed back to the top, then rolled down again. It had nearly 500,000km on it when I sold it.

I didn’t have a car again until I married my wife. (Well, she had a car, a Hyundai something-or-other.)

When it died, we bought the only car we’ve ever bought together, our (then) new 2013 Smart Pure coupé. It currently has over 100,000 miles on it.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 11, 2023 • 2:03:30am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 2:04:51am

re: #5 William Lewis

And we’re off to a rip roaring start tonight.

Underaged guest wants a key. Our policy is that a parent must get key. The parent is not here. Calls asking me to give child a key. I explain that i can’t without a parent and id. Says will show id and give a $50 bribe tip when gets back. I say, I can’t do that because it’s a security problem - I don’t know who she is. Not a happy camper. I expect the manager to get a complaint in the morning.

Lots of drunks tonight too. SIgh.

It seems being a local politician is easier than a hotel manager.

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Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2023 • 2:33:49am

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

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Two birds, one stone: Bulk up the Army ranks immediately without the messiness of a “partial mobilization,” and neutralize Prigozhin as a political rival by stripping away control of his private army.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 2:47:25am

re: #25 Belafon

#Christian

GAINESVILLE, Fla. - Lorenzo Lee Crawford, 54, the Apostle/Founder/Overseer of the Christian Coalition Family Church, has been charged with four counts of felony battery after another victim came forward; Crawford was previously arrested in May and charged with ten counts of sexual battery on an adult victim, one count of sexual assault with no physical force, one count of aggravated battery, and one count of aggravated child abuse.

The victim told an Alachua County Sheriff’s Deputy that she attended Crawford’s church between April 2021 and March 2022 and said that Crawford “spanked” her at least four times for having “an attitude” or refusing to do what he told her to do. She said she thought the discipline was normal and that she looked to Crawford as a father figure; she said Crawford used scripture to coerce her into accepting his actions. Crawford allegedly spanked her in front of others, and the victim said she was embarrassed and angered by the spankings.

(more)

Battery charges added to pastor previously arrested for sexual battery (Alachua [Fla.] Chronicle, June 10, 2023)

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 11, 2023 • 2:47:29am

re: #46 Targetpractice

Two birds, one stone: Bulk up the Army ranks immediately without the messiness of a “partial mobilization,” and neutralize Prigozhin as a political rival by stripping away control of his private army.

Yep, and helps preclude the possibility of a putsch by Prigozhin and Wagner. Well, maybe not 100%, but more likely than not puts the kibosh on Prigozhin’s ability to successfully launch an attempted overthrow of the government.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 2:52:55am

#police

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:03:41am

As a reminder, West Virginia is a conservative paradise.

The impeachment of the Supreme Court of Appeals of West Virginia occurred on August 13, 2018, when the West Virginia House of Delegates voted to impeach all five justices of the Supreme Court of Appeals of West Virginia for charges relating to corruption, overspending, and lack of oversight. Despite being threatened in other states at other times, this is the only time in United States history that the entire bench of the highest court of a state has been impeached.

Justice Menis Ketchum resigned before impeachment, pled guilty in federal court to one count of wire fraud, and had his license to practice law annulled and was sentenced to three years probation and fined.
Chief Justice Allen Loughry was removed as chief justice, suspended from the court, impeached on seven charges, convicted of 11 charges, resigned before being tried for removal from office and sentenced to 24 months in prison.
Justice Robin Davis was impeached on three charges, retired on August 14 — retroactively effective August 13 — and was not tried in the Senate due to an injunction from the temporarily reconstituted Supreme Court.
Justice Beth Walker was impeached on two charges, voted to not be removed 32-1-1 on October 2, and remained on the court.
Justice Margaret Workman was impeached on two charges, not tried in the Senate due to an injunction from the Supreme Court, and remained on the court.

(more)

Impeachment of the Supreme Court of Appeals of West Virginia (Wikipedia)

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Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:06:05am

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

#police

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But remember, it’s the drag queens who are the real danger.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:08:06am

re: #51 Targetpractice

But remember, it’s the drag queens who are the real danger.

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And when the taxpayers get tired of paying, they will stop electing corrupt politicians who refuse to hold police accountable for crime.

Voters still labour under the delusion that conservatives are tough on crime. When it costs voters real money, they start ejecting conservatives from office.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:11:23am

Doni is a Libertarian moran.

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steve_davis  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:12:41am

re: #29 William Lewis

Fuck. Just got time to go get the dirty towels out of the pool area, check the chemicals etc? Area is trashed. Almost as bad as if a hockey team were in house instead of soccer and basketball teams. Towels everywhere, pizza boxes (no food allowed but hey, that’s for other people!) too. Three partially eaten slices of pizza floating around in the water that I can’t reach. Just a pigsty.

Have a quiet word with the coaches. Kids’ll be running suicides ‘til they puke.

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:18:39am

re: #53 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Doni is a Libertarian moran.

MUST MAKE MOAR WHITE BABBYS

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:18:51am

Spike Cohen is still a Libertarian moran.

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:21:08am

re: #54 steve_davis

Have a quiet word with the coaches. Kids’ll be running suicides ‘til they puke.

Take pics of the trash in the pool, let the coaches know it’s policy to email them to the school admin. Then the coaches will take it more seriously.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:24:30am

Mastodon

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:24:57am

Mastodon

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:25:47am

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

JFC, they really are living in an alternate reality, aren’t they?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:28:57am

re: #60 Dr Lizardo

JFC, they really are living in an alternate reality, aren’t they?

I have no idea how the USS Liberty incident relates to Donald Trump illegally possessing government property at this trash palace.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:28:59am

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:34:12am

Propaganda movies are apparently an infallible guide to truth in MAGA-land. Good thing these ass-magats never saw Triumph of the Will. Or maybe they did.

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:37:29am

re: #57 darthstar

Take pics of the trash in the pool, let the coaches know it’s policy to email them to the school admin. Then the coaches will take it more seriously.

Not sure these are school teams. No, best I can do is get my AGM, who is also the sales person, to put them on the do not rent list.

At least they aren’t like the little shits from a hockey team in Hayward that destroyed a leather couch one weekend just for giggles. That coach got a personal bill for five grand (repair cost, not replacement cost).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:38:56am

BBC, June 5, 2023

The Search for Earth’s Hidden Mountains

“The deep Earth contains vast mountain ranges with peaks up to four times the height of Everest. But no one knows why.”

The Earth’s strange interior mountains occur at a critical threshold: the one between the planet’s metallic core and the surrounding rocky mantle. This abrupt transition is, as Hansen’s team point out, even more drastic than the change in physical properties between solid rock and air. It has been tantalising experts for decades - as enigmatic as it is influential to the geology of the planet.

Though the ‘core-mantle boundary’ is thousands of kilometres from the Earth’s surface, there is a surprising amount of interchange between its unfathomable depths and our own world. It’s thought to be a kind of graveyard for ancient pieces of the ocean floor - and it may even be behind the existence of volcanoes in unexpected locations, such as Hawaii, by creating super-heated highways to the crust.

The story of the deep-Earth mountains began in 1996, when scientists explored the core-mantle boundary far beneath the central Pacific Ocean. They did this by studying seismic waves created by massive ground-shuddering events: usually earthquakes, though nuclear bombs can achieve the same effect. These waves pass right through the Earth, and can be picked up by seismic stations at other locations on its surface, sometimes more than 12,742 km (7,918 miles) away from where they started. By examining the paths the waves take as they travel through - such as the way they’re refracted by different materials - scientists can piece together an X-ray-like picture of the interior of the planet.

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Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:42:58am

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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And when the taxpayers get tired of paying, they will stop electing corrupt politicians who refuse to hold police accountable for crime.

Voters still labour under the delusion that conservatives are tough on crime. When it costs voters real money, they start ejecting conservatives from office.

You want to see police departments embrace change? Pass laws that bar state and city governments from paying use-of-force and wrongful death suits out of the general fund. Draw from the department funds, draw from their retirement funds, or start forwarding the bills to their insurance providers. Guarantee that once the free ride ends, they’ll quickly decide that the “bad apples” gotta go.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:44:26am

re: #31 No Malarkey!

My daughter wants to learn to drive a stick, if we can find anyone who has one and is willing to teach her.

My brother used two forms of motivation to get my nieces to learn stick: to the first, glamorous one, he reminded that if she ever gets a boyfriend with a Porsche or Lamborghini, she will have to learn stick if she wants to drive it.

To the other much more practical one, he reminded her that city DPW vehicles are all stick. If she can do that, then she gets to drive while the rest of the crew is humping trash bins, trimming weeds or cutting branches.

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Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:45:09am

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I have no idea how the USS Liberty incident relates to Donald Trump illegally possessing government property at this trash palace.

Yeah, I’m almost tempted to conclude that it’s a joke of some kind.

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:45:29am

re: #66 Targetpractice

You want to see police departments embrace change? Pass laws that bar state and city governments from paying use-of-force and wrongful death suits out of the general fund. Draw from the department funds, draw from their retirement funds, or start forwarding the bills to their insurance providers. Guarantee that once the free ride ends, they’ll quickly decide that the “bad apples” gotta go.

Things began to change in St Louis when the insurance companies began to refuse to cover departments.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:47:44am

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The ENTIRE West Virginia State Police department is under sexual misconduct investigation. Here’s a 6/8/2023 update.

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Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:48:41am

re: #53 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Doni is a Libertarian moran.

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One of those bits that are always so hilarious about conspiracy theorists is that they genuinely cannot fathom that government agencies regularly engage in thought experiments or otherwise aimless research simply to burn up resources before the end of the fiscal year and/or to keep otherwise idling departments sharp in the event they’re needed to actually tackle realistic scenarios.

Unless…you know…she genuinely thinks the DoD is preparing for an imminent zombie apocalypse.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:49:40am

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

- This will likely help [DJT’s] chance of getting re-elected.

It will certainly seal his nomination - as if that were not already all but a sure thing

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:50:31am

4:48—the bird alarm has been triggered outside.

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:51:38am

re: #70 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Made me have to look up the real lyrics ;)

Just for that…

Country Roads, if it were written in a minor key [FULL VERSION]

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Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:51:46am

re: #63 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Propaganda movies are apparently an infallible guide to truth in MAGA-land. Good thing these ass-magats never saw Triumph of the Will. Or maybe they did.

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13 Hours, aka more Bay soft-core military porn pretending to be a realistic depiction of actions taken during an event that remains shrouded in uncertainty to this day.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:53:35am

re: #71 Targetpractice

One of those bits that are always so hilarious about conspiracy theorists is that they genuinely cannot fathom that government agencies regularly engage in thought experiments or otherwise aimless research

The Allies had contingency plans for chemical warfare all throughout WW2 but those were only for the event that the Axis resorted to them first.

But it caused a scandal when a ship containing chemical weapons was sunk in an Italian harbor in 1943.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:55:04am

re: #74 William Lewis

Made me have to look up the real lyrics ;)

Just for that…

Video

Toots and the Maytals - Take Me Home Country Roads

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Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:55:58am

re: #76 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Allies had contingency plans for chemical warfare all throughout WW2 but those were only for the event that the Axis resorted to them first.

But it caused a scandal when a ship containing chemical weapons was sunk in an Italian harbor in 1943.

FFS, Sir Winston had the Joint Planning Staff draw up plans for invading the Soviet Union before WWII had even concluded. And George Patton was screaming before the dust had even settled to declare war on the Soviets, rearm the Wehrmacht, and turn them East to march on to Moscow.

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Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:56:24am

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Artists Of Then, Now & Forever - Forever Country

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:58:21am

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Nice!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:58:56am

re: #79 Targetpractice

It is a great song. The fact that it holds up to being played to death says a lot about it

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 11, 2023 • 3:59:39am

re: #66 Targetpractice

Exactly. I was hoping that would happen after the George Floyd protests but I’m not aware of any states which have changed how judgments are paid. Once police unions are on the hook for lawsuits, we’ll see huge changes (as in less) in the number of police brutality cases.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 11, 2023 • 4:00:09am

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Love that version!!

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Axolotl  Jun 11, 2023 • 4:02:10am

re: #31 No Malarkey!

My daughter wants to learn to drive a stick, if we can find anyone who has one and is willing to teach her.

I am in the process of teaching all my kids to drive stick. It is a lot of fun, nearly impossible to text and drive and none of their friends can get behind the wheel.

Additional bonuses, you don’t really have to worry about someone stealing it. Only problem is it does require some practice before it is mastered.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2023 • 4:03:46am

re: #82 Patricia Kayden

Exactly. I was hoping that would happen after the George Floyd protests but I’m not aware of any states which have changed how judgments are paid. Once police unions are on the hook for lawsuits, we’ll see huge changes (as in less) in the number of police brutality cases.

Remember how much “Law and order” Sheriff Joe Arpaio cost Maricopa County, AZ in lawsuits (I have seen figures as high as $480 million): all money that could have been used for actual law enforcement or corrections, you know, law and fucking order, not vigilanteism and grandstanding.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 11, 2023 • 4:07:20am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And if I recall correctly, after Trump pardoned him, he tried to run for office again. So yeah, he cost the state hundreds of millions of dollars and pretty much walked away scott-free. Nice.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 11, 2023 • 4:08:05am

For those of you still on the Bird

Mastodon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 4:08:08am

re: #63 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

All those judges Trump appointed are “far-left.”

I wish we had any far-left judges. We might see some corporate boards actually go to jail when their corporations commit crimes.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 4:12:40am

re: #66 Targetpractice

You want to see police departments embrace change? Pass laws that bar state and city governments from paying use-of-force and wrongful death suits out of the general fund. Draw from the department funds, draw from their retirement funds, or start forwarding the bills to their insurance providers. Guarantee that once the free ride ends, they’ll quickly decide that the “bad apples” gotta go.

I’m not sure you can take it from police retirement funds. That would be collective punishment for crimes of a subpart.

You can make sure the taxpayers foot the bill for the corrupt politicians who won’t fire police for crimes, make sure no “general bond” ever passes (to prevent bonds from being used to pay fines), and sue to bankrupt an entire city (the same way you sue to bankrupt school boards such as Dover, Penna. over their intelligent design case).

Once the corrupt officials are gone, those suing can drop the claim or if it’s already adjudicated, agree to take only a nominal amount ($1) because they aren’t actually interested in bankrupting a city or school district.

Where this tactic has been employed, it has worked.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 11, 2023 • 4:21:02am

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“That would be collective punishment for crimes of a subpart.”

I assume that you’re aware that in several red states including Florida, laws have been passed which collectively punish (Black) protesters for the crimes/misconduct of even one protester. I see no problem with making entire police forces pay for misconduct which they cover up and support.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 11, 2023 • 4:29:52am

In regard to my earlier posting….

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 4:32:38am

re: #90 Patricia Kayden

“That would be collective punishment for crimes of a subpart.”

I assume that you’re aware that in several red states including Florida, laws have been passed which collectively punish (Black) protesters for the crimes/misconduct of even one protester. I see no problem with making entire police forces pay for misconduct which they cover up and support.

I’m aware of that. Florida’s so-called “anti-riot” law was passed April 19, 2021. By September it was declared unconstitutional.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2023 • 4:36:16am

re: #92 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m aware of that. Florida’s so-called “anti-riot” law was passed April 19, 2021. By September it was declared unconstitutional.

They like passing this sort of “there oughtta be a law against it” legislation without thinking things through like how it is to be interpreted, enforced or whether it is constitutional in the first place

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 4:49:31am

Live Science, June 10, 2023

Nothing to see here, just scientists trying to kill us all for funsies.

Stephen Hawking wanted scientists to ‘make black holes’ on Earth. Physics says it’s possible.

“I hope you’ll make black holes,” Stephen said with a broad smile.

We exited the cargo lift that had taken us underground into the five-story cavern housing the ATLAS experiment at the CERN lab, the legendary European Organization for Nuclear Research near Geneva. CERN’s director general, Rolf Heuer, shuffled his feet uneasily. This was 2009, and someone had filed a lawsuit in the United States, concerned that CERN’s newly constructed Large Hadron Collider, the LHC, would produce black holes or another form of exotic matter that could destroy Earth.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 11, 2023 • 4:49:49am

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They like passing this sort of “there oughtta be a law against it” legislation without thinking things through like how it is to be interpreted, enforced or whether it is constitutional in the first place

It’s mostly performance art. They want to show their voters that they’re tough on crime, tough on hating Those People, tough on For The Children, etc. They’re not thinking about how these bills can be used, but on how these bills should be used - as tools to oppress their enemies.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2023 • 4:51:09am

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That was a big scare in the last decade, that somehow CERN would make a mini black hole.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 11, 2023 • 4:51:42am

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Live Science, June 10, 2023

Nothing to see here, just scientists trying to kill us all for funsies.

Stephen Hawking wanted scientists to ‘make black holes’ on Earth. Physics says it’s possible.

(more)

As far as I can recall from my armchair Wikipedia expertise, a lab-grown micro-black hole would evaporate due to Hawking radiation faster than it would grow due to sucking in matter, so the damage would be extremely limited.

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2023 • 4:53:31am

re: #97 Nerdy Fish

As far as I can recall from my armchair Wikipedia expertise, a lab-grown micro-black hole would evaporate due to Hawking radiation faster than it would grow due to sucking in matter, so the damage would be extremely limited.

Exactly. The math is quite clear and not even especially complicated.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2023 • 4:55:01am

re: #87 Patricia Kayden

What happens to Twitter if Amazon and Google decide to just turn off their services to Twitter?

Perhaps Musk wants that so he can blame Google and Amazon when things go tits-up (as the Scots like to say.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 4:58:53am

re: #97 Nerdy Fish

As far as I can recall from my armchair Wikipedia expertise, a lab-grown micro-black hole would evaporate due to Hawking radiation faster than it would grow due to sucking in matter, so the damage would be extremely limited.

Hawking radiation is hypothesised however. Ever since Prof. Hawking suggested the idea in 1974, no one has able to demonstrate this is actually true.

re: #96 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

That was a big scare in the last decade, that somehow CERN would make a mini black hole.

The idea goes that if you pour enough energy into compressing matter into a small enough space, you can create a black hole.

There was a lawsuit in the USA to try to stop CERN from starting up due to the fear it could be used to create a black hole which would kill us all. The suit was thrown out on the grounds you cannot bring suits based on hypotheticals. (Presumably, you could only bring a suit after they really did kill us all.)

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 11, 2023 • 4:59:55am

That was very unexpected.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:03:16am

Liquid rock:

Jun 10, 2023: Burst of lava ejects from lava cone at Kilauea



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Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:07:25am

re: #91 Dr Lizardo

In regard to my earlier posting….

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It’s not quite popcorn time yet, but keep your kernels dry.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:07:39am

re: #99 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

What happens to Twitter if Amazon and Google decide to just turn off their services to Twitter?

It depends. I’m not 100% certain what role Amazon and Google play in Twitter’s infrastructure; last I heard, under Jack, they had been making an effort to move off of self-owned data centers and put Twitter infrastructure in the cloud. It sounded like Musk was attempting to reverse that policy as well as consolidate the infrastructure in one central datacenter so he could shut the others down. (This is a bad idea for multiple reasons, but I will leave that aside for the present.) If true, the damage from getting cut off from Amazon and Google will likely be limited to some certain features that use whatever services they have left in the cloud. It would also result in some page loading time increases across most of the world, as I would assume that Twitter’s CDN (Content Delivery Network) is hosted on one of those.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:14:51am

in case it’s not crystal clear, in the united states, each of us has all kinds of rights w/r/t criminal and civil justice:

against self incrimnation
to an attorney
to a defense
to face your accusers

there is no right to:

not being investigated
or accused
or charged
or indicted
or arrested (do you know who i am?)

there is no right to not be prosecuted or sued
(be as indignant as you like, your recourse is to defend yourself and win the case)

you also have recourse if the arrest or civil suit is malicious or frivolous.
you know, what a child might call ‘unfair’ or ‘a witch hunt’, or ‘hoax’.
If you think that’s the case, then prove it.

that stupid DOJ memo is an opinion. it is not law.
(i don’t know why it’s treated as sacred.)

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:18:34am

re: #105 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

that stupid DOJ memo is an opinion. it is not law.
(i don’t know why it’s treated as sacred.)

If it’s the one I’m thinking of, doesn’t it also only apply to sitting presidents? I know the delusional crazies think that Trump is still the lawfully elected President of the United States, but reality disagrees.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:20:46am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:22:08am

re: #105 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

in case it’s not crystal clear, in the united states, each of us has all kinds of rights w/r/t criminal and civil justice:

against self incrimnation
to an attorney
to a defense
to face your accusers

there is no right to:

not being investigated
or accused
or charged
or indicted
or arrested (do you know who i am?)

there is no right to not be prosecuted or sued
(be as indignant as you like, your recourse is to defend yourself and win the case)

you also have recourse if the arrest or civil suit is malicious or frivolous.
you know, what a child might call ‘unfair’ or ‘a witch hunt’, or ‘hoax’.
If you think that’s the case, then prove it.

that stupid DOJ memo is an opinion. it is not law.
(i don’t know why it’s treated as sacred.)

The only problem with the “prove it” part is if you aren’t wealthy. If someone slandered me with malicious intent, in theory I can go to court and “prove it.”

I don’t have the money for that.

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Axolotl  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:24:19am

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They like passing this sort of “there oughtta be a law against it” legislation without thinking things through like how it is to be interpreted, enforced or whether it is constitutional in the first place

I beg you guys not to say “they”. That is Ron Desantis who I and many other floridians did not vote for. He did it likely knowing it would be struck down but it looked good for his brand.

Guys, remember when Trump was president we all were not co-signing his bullshit. Well the same is true for florida. It is my hope that we swing back to the left. We need our own Stacy Abrahms.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:26:36am

re: #109 Axolotl

I beg you guys not to say “they”. That is Ron Desantis who I and many other floridians did not vote for. He did it likely knowing it would be struck down but it looked good for his brand.

Guys, remember when Trump was president we all were not co-signing his bullshit. Well the same is true for florida. It is my hope that we swing back to the left. We need our own Stacy Abrahms.

The “they,” in this case, appears to be referring specifically to the Florida legislature, though the overall point is taken. I have been trying to be more conscious of the good people whose circumstances, for whatever reason, leave them stranded in red states, and are trying to do the best that they can with their lot in life.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:27:25am

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m not sure you can take it from police retirement funds. That would be collective punishment for crimes of a subpart.

You can make sure the taxpayers foot the bill for the corrupt politicians who won’t fire police for crimes, make sure no “general bond” ever passes (to prevent bonds from being used to pay fines), and sue to bankrupt an entire city (the same way you sue to bankrupt school boards such as Dover, Penna. over their intelligent design case).

Once the corrupt officials are gone, those suing can drop the claim or if it’s already adjudicated, agree to take only a nominal amount ($1) because they aren’t actually interested in bankrupting a city or school district.

Where this tactic has been employed, it has worked.

police officer malpractice insurance
premiums must be paid personally
and yes, optional (you want to be bankrupted by a lawsuit, that’s fine)

everyone should be responsible and accountable for their own actions and decisions

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:28:53am

re: #95 Nerdy Fish

It’s mostly performance art. They want to show their voters that they’re tough on crime, tough on hating Those People, tough on For The Children, etc. They’re not thinking about how these bills can be used, but on how these bills should be used - as tools to oppress their enemies.

like the book bans that were applied to ‘the’ bible

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:29:58am

re: #99 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

What happens to Twitter if Amazon and Google decide to just turn off their services to Twitter?

Perhaps Musk wants that so he can blame Google and Amazon when things go tits-up (as the Scots like to say.)

it’s their fault i didnt pay my debts?
who does he think he is?//

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:30:42am

re: #31 No Malarkey!

My daughter wants to learn to drive a stick, if we can find anyone who has one and is willing to teach her.

As a friend of mine put it, and now I think it every time I drive, “Driving with a stick is more like dancing with your car.”

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:31:56am

re: #106 Nerdy Fish

If it’s the one I’m thinking of, doesn’t it also only apply to sitting presidents? I know the delusional crazies think that Trump is still the lawfully elected President of the United States, but reality disagrees.

yes. that stupid doj memo

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:34:12am

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The only problem with the “prove it” part is if you aren’t wealthy. If someone slandered me with malicious intent, in theory I can go to court and “prove it.”

I don’t have the money for that.

i agree. and don’t have an answer.

in the present context we know who we’re talking about and he’s alleged to be rich.

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Axolotl  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:35:18am

re: #110 Nerdy Fish

The “they,” in this case, appears to be referring specifically to the Florida legislature, though the overall point is taken. I have been trying to be more conscious of the good people whose circumstances, for whatever reason, leave them stranded in red states, and are trying to do the best that they can with their lot in life.

Thanks, understood. I did not mean to direct that at you specifically. Florida deserves a lot of scorn for sure but if folks could try “to be more conscious of the good people whose circumstances” as you said it would be appreciated.

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Axolotl  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:37:36am

re: #114 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

As a friend of mine put it, and now I think it every time I drive, “Driving with a stick is more like dancing with your car.”

This is an excellent way of putting it. This is why I want my kids to learn as well because it is a more active form of driving and it requires attention.

I noticed, with my kids at least, that automatic is almost a little too easy and causes some overconfidence.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:38:43am

re: #118 Axolotl

This is an excellent way of putting it. This is why I want my kids to learn as well because it is a more active form of driving and it requires attention.

I noticed, with my kids at least, that automatic is almost a little too easy and causes some overconfidence.

In modern times though, manual transmissions make great anti-theft devices. /s

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:40:14am
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:42:00am

re: #114 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

As a friend of mine put it, and now I think it every time I drive, “Driving with a stick is more like dancing with your car.”

i remember the book ‘real men don’t eat quiche’
one quip was ‘real men are secure enough to have their gears shifted for them’

nope. a stick help keeps you in touch and situationally aware

i have always owned shift cars, trucks and motorcycles.
in 2014 i went out of my way to find and pay extra for a mitsubishi spyder cause it was a convertible manual.

always owned at least one bike and one convertible.
gave up the last convertible two years back.

two months ago went the last bike / manual.
the volvo automatic trans gear selector is on the floor. does that count for half?

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:43:16am

re: #92 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m aware of that. Florida’s so-called “anti-riot” law was passed April 19, 2021. By September it was declared unconstitutional.

Had no idea it was declared unconstitutional. Good to hear. Thanks.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:44:38am
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:46:39am

re: #117 Axolotl

Thanks, understood. I did not mean to direct that at you specifically. Florida deserves a lot of scorn for sure but if folks could try “to be more conscious of the good people whose circumstances” as you said it would be appreciated.

imo the florida electorate is probably still closer to 50/50 than all red
(tfg won 51/47, though biden was ahead in the polls)

desantis last win was not indicative of the electorate but of Crist

the problem is the dems dont have a deep bench of candidates
and their organization/turnout isnt the best
and like many states, the blue areas are concentrated

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:47:41am
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TarHellion  Jun 11, 2023 • 5:48:43am

re: #101 Nerdy Fish

Nicely done you Nerdy Beagle Fish! Studied over guess 3 for some time and made the birbie putt.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:02:55am
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:04:04am

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

so according to Bacon, trump should be toast

yesterday’s electoral-vote.com:

In a word: intent.

As we have noted many times, for a civilian to get popped for mishandling classified documents, they either have to be engaging in a willful act of rulebreaking, or they have to be so reckless that their actions were effectively willful. If this was not the case, then there would be a parade of federal employees headed to prison for inadvertent and/or moderately careless errors.

…She never knowingly exposed or kept information she wasn’t supposed to expose/keep. By contrast, as is made very clear in the indictment, Trump not only knew he was doing wrong, he took active steps to hide his misdeeds from both his own attorneys and from the feds.

There is also a question of degree when it comes to crimes. …While some of the information on Clinton’s e-mail server was indeed classified, it was relatively trivial stuff. By contrast, the information being held at Mar-a-Lago was among the country’s most sensitive intelligence.

We’ll also point out that Clinton and Trump were subjected to similar processes. People whose job it is to understand the law and to evaluate such cases decided, several times, that Clinton should not be prosecuted. The same sort of people looked at Trump, tried very hard to let him un-hang himself, and when he chose to keep playing games, went after him.

But again, the easy answer is intent. The evidence did not support the conclusion that Clinton deliberately mishandled information. It does appear to support that conclusion for Trump.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:08:30am

The Republican Party is making it clear that their platform is the culture war. They don’t care about America, only about their fantasy ideal of a “God”-fearing, “Christian” country.

Mastodon

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:12:27am
“In their first remarks since former president Donald Trump’s federal indictment, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and former vice president Mike Pence rushed to defend their rival,” Axios reports.

“It foreshadows a tightrope that the other candidates running for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination will walk through the primary season.”

pence’s chance went from 0% to 0%

but what a stupid move for desantis.
what morons are advising this moron?

131
Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:13:18am

excellent rando comment:

Stop asking candidates if trump should’ve been indicted.

Ask them if they accept the facts of the case.

Make them defend leaving state secrets in a bathroom.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:13:26am

re: #128 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

so according to Bacon, trump should be toast

yesterday’s electoral-vote.com:

Don Bacon is one of the Republicans in a swing district (NE-2). Simply tooting the conservative talking points will get him ousted from Congress. On the other hand, a wingnut further to the right might try to primary him.

133
TarHellion  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:19:58am

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And that is the fallout from Citizens United that causes GQP reps to continue to advance far-right positions. The message being that if you do not adhere to what the “party” demands, you will be primaried - with your opponent receiving tens of millions of dollars from nebulous PACs or a billionaire with a bee in his bonnet.

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🔧-wench  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:23:00am

Mastodon

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Not a birbie, a boird.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:23:26am

no i can’t take credit:

a total Dark Brandon move

Tell Governor DeSantis to mobilize the Florida National Guard to protect the courthouse on Tuesday.

if he balks, federalize them

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:24:53am

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Don Bacon is one of the Republicans in a swing district (NE-2). Simply tooting the conservative talking points will get him ousted from Congress. On the other hand, a wingnut further to the right might try to primary him.

principles. what are they?

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:26:40am
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:28:51am
“The 37-count federal indictment of former president Donald Trump unsealed Friday provides a vivid account of Trump’s actions at his homes in South Florida and New Jersey, and is based on information from a coterie of close aides, household staffers and lawyers hired to serve Trump in his post-presidency.”

wapo

so it wasn’t biden, soros, obama, etc

tfg hires ‘only they best’. and they turned on him

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:30:06am

re: #137 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

On Friday, Mike Dunford (@questauthority) did a live first-time read-through of the indictment document. (It should be noted, he is not a criminal lawyer, though he knows enough to give opinions and be generally entertaining.) He spent a few minutes at the top of the stream discussing mens rea, or “state of mind,” regarding the requirement for 18 USC 793 that the documents be retained “willfully and knowingly.” Five minutes later, he gets to the point in the document where it states that Lordy, there are tapes, and specifically, Trump himself explicitly saying, “If I was President, I could’ve declassified this, but I can’t now, so it’s secret.” He sits for a few seconds, speechless, looks into the camera, and says, “Well, I believe that demonstrates ‘willfully and knowingly,’ Your Honor.”

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:30:51am

re: #129 Nerdy Fish

The Republican Party is making it clear that their platform is the culture war. They don’t care about America, only about their fantasy ideal of a “God”-fearing, “Christian” country.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:31:34am

re: #128 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

One issue here is Trump’s lawyers resigning.

Since the case involves classified information, any new lawyers will have to pass a security clearance investigation before they can work on the case in his defence.

This could go like other scofflaws who keep firing lawyers and getting new ones, except Trump’s lawyers will need security clearances.

Even if a conviction is possible here, I don’t see it happening before the election. Since every other GOP hopeful needs Trump’s voters to win, just like 2016 they won’t attack Trump.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:37:25am

Wingnut who claims he has “pureblood fresh semen” for sale has thoughts on Sen. Megan Hunt.

>

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:38:01am

re: #142 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Fixed

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:41:06am

Thread, four tweets.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:44:17am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:44:50am
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jeffreyw  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:53:07am

Good morning!

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:54:25am

re: #39 Belafon

That’s Boston. Good luck with that. Our former mayor is in that parade somewhere.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 11, 2023 • 6:54:47am

What’s next, Elon? Mein Kampf?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:01:45am

re: #149 DodgerFan1988

What’s next, Elon? Mein Kampf?

The Industrial Revolution: That thing which makes Twitter possible.

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🔧-wench  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:03:26am

Mastodon

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jeffreyw  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:04:35am

Mrs J tells me that the (whole house) generator ran for two hours last night. I slept through it. There were storms north of us that we didn’t see but must have caused the problem.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:05:03am

Oh look, Elon has more Brain Farts to share:

thestreet.com

Trump is being singled out for something totally equivalent to ….something by other guys.

154
Mattand  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:09:30am

PSA: If anyone is planning on traveling to Philly over the next year, heads up:

Truck fire and road collapse close I-95

This is really, really bad for the city in particular, the area in interstate travel in general. I know this is probably gonna make Philly Pretzel‘s life hell for a long while.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:10:10am

re: #147 jeffreyw

Looks like deep fried battered Cod fillets.

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Mattand  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:11:33am

Northbound 95 in the Northeast part of the city. It’s normally a parking lot on the best of days. I cannot even begin to guess how bad it’s going to be tomorrow morning.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:13:16am

re: #149 DodgerFan1988

What’s next, Elon? Mein Kampf?

Christianity.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:15:34am

re: #157 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Christianity.

Sin - “that which separates people from God Almighty” - is a spiritual problem, not necessarily a physical problem. It is a failing that affects the soul, not the body. Disasters for the human race are physical problems that require physical solutions, and the Industrial Revolution ain’t it, chief.

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:17:47am

re: #97 Nerdy Fish

As far as I can recall from my armchair Wikipedia expertise, a lab-grown micro-black hole would evaporate due to Hawking radiation faster than it would grow due to sucking in matter, so the damage would be extremely limited.

Quoting Dr. Ian Malcolm,

Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:21:59am

re: #158 Nerdy Fish

Sin - “that which separates people from God Almighty” - is a spiritual problem, not necessarily a physical problem. It is a failing that affects the soul, not the body. Disasters for the human race are physical problems that require physical solutions, and the Industrial Revolution ain’t it, chief.

Sin is a religious problem. I do not believe such a concept describes reality. I do believe that concept is used to oppress people.

As for “spiritual,” I can never get a good definition of what that means. It seems every person who uses it has a different definition for it, rendering the word meaningless.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:22:55am

re: #90 Patricia Kayden

“That would be collective punishment for crimes of a subpart.”

I assume that you’re aware that in several red states including Florida, laws have been passed which collectively punish (Black) protesters for the crimes/misconduct of even one protester. I see no problem with making entire police forces pay for misconduct which they cover up and support.

Two wrongs make two wrongs.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:26:24am

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Just a friendly reminder to all that I am in no way related to one Don Bacon.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:27:24am

re: #154 Mattand

For those who drive a car into Center City it will be one heck of a mess. Since I use SEPTA I should not have too many problems.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:27:47am

re: #101 Nerdy Fish

That was very unexpected.

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So was this. 😥

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:29:40am

Attorney Shyster says Trump grappling with reality: Spending ‘decades in jail’ hasn’t ‘sunk in’

Sure…

Alina Habba, an attorney for Donald Trump, said that her client is still grappling with the possibility that he could spend “decades in jail” after being hit with a federal indictment.

rawstory.com

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:30:45am

re: #161 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Two wrongs make two wrongs.

I was told there would be no math

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:31:51am

Maybe Christians will figure out the police aren’t on their side either?

WFMZ-TV, Reading, Penna., June 7, 2023

READING, Pa. - The Berks County district attorney has dismissed the arrest of a man charged with disrupting a Pride flag-raising at City Hall.

A video shows Damon Atkins on the other side of the street the event on Saturday at Reading City Hall.

Atkins is heard talking with a police officer, saying he is on public property.

Moments later he begins quoting scripture in a raised voice and is immediately handcuffed.

Reading Police Chief Richard Tornielli said Atkins was being disruptive to the event and being disorderly. He said Atkins was not taken into custody because of what he was saying.

“Our officers gave him warnings to cease that behavior as it was disrupting the event that was taking place,” said Tornielli.

69 News spoke with Atkins, who said he preaches in the city and that he was not targeting any certain group of people. He tells us he targets sin. Atkins said he could have handled things better.

“I come to the event because the Bible says going to all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. No one is exempt,” said Atkins.

(more)

“Love the sinner, hate the sin” (Christian lie)
“No one is exempt” (not in the Bible)
“Preach the Gospel to every creature” (not in the Bible, a bastardisation of the Great Commission, 1 Peter 3:15, and if you believe that, how about you spend your time out here preaching to prairie dogs rather than harassing people on the street with a bullhorn)

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:32:00am

re: #165 Joe Bacon ✅

Attorney Shyster says Trump grappling with reality: Spending ‘decades in jail’ hasn’t ‘sunk in’

Sure…

Alina Habba, an attorney for Donald Trump, said that her client is still grappling with the possibility that he could spend “decades in jail” after being hit with a federal indictment.

rawstory.com

Wait till the DC indictments drop.
Oh you think Florida is the end of this episode?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:32:33am

re: #165 Joe Bacon ✅

Attorney Shyster says Trump grappling with reality: Spending ‘decades in jail’ hasn’t ‘sunk in’

Sure…

Alina Habba, an attorney for Donald Trump, said that her client is still grappling with the possibility that he could spend “decades in jail” after being hit with a federal indictment.

rawstory.com

Mr. Krabs Plays The World’s Smallest Violin (1080p)

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:38:41am

Hope this is true…

Mastodon

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:40:49am

re: #159 sizzzzlerz

Quoting Dr. Ian Malcolm,

Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.

The thing about that statement is it could both apply to creating dinosaurs and to curing Covid.

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Nojay UK  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:41:31am

re: #170 darthstar

The Russian military are very good at fixing railway lines, they have entire combat engineering crops dedicated to that sort of operation. If your logistics train is literally train(s) then it’s a necessary skill of arms in a combat zone.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:42:27am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:43:07am

re: #166 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

I was told there would be no math

You were told wrong.

π Overlord would disagree.

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:43:40am

re: #172 Nojay UK

The Russian military are very good at fixing railway lines, they have entire combat engineering crops dedicated to that sort of operation. If your logistics train is literally train(s) then it’s a necessary skill of arms in a combat zone.

I’m just glad to see Ukrainian partisans re-entering the chat now that the counter offensive is apparently underway. If they blew out some line, that can be replaced in a day or two. If it’s a bridge - even a small one - that could set Russian logistics back by a good week or two.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:44:09am

re: #173 Barefoot Grin

NYT adopts logic from National Lampoon.

Animal House (7/10) Movie CLIP - Deltas on Trial (1978) HD

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:45:35am
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Nerdy Fish  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:47:08am

re: #165 Joe Bacon ✅

Attorney Shyster says Trump grappling with reality: Spending ‘decades in jail’ hasn’t ‘sunk in’

Sure…

Alina Habba, an attorney for Donald Trump, said that her client is still grappling with the possibility that he could spend “decades in jail” after being hit with a federal indictment.

rawstory.com

The sentencing guidelines suggest that he could be facing somewhere between 3.5 and 5 years on the 18 USC 793(e) charges: Sentenced to 7-10, serving 50% of the time in jail as a first offender and if he’s a good boy. There are other charges with longer maximum sentences, but the key part is that 18 USC 793(e) is one of those crimes where the sentencing guidelines basically recommend the max sentence right off the bat. The federal judiciary does not fuck around with misappropriation of state secrets.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:49:45am

For Republican voters, the more criming the better:

yahoo.com

Trump up by nearly 40 points over DeSantis.

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Unabogie  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:51:11am

re: #177 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You scoff, but how do I explain to my kids that if they grow seeing examples of loving families and happy, well-adjusted kids who were successfully treated for gender dysphoria that it means their lives won’t be ruined if they aren’t cisgendered straights?

What’s next, should we start telling kids we love them and stop hitting them with belts?

#JoeBidensAmerica
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(fully /s, in case it wasn’t clear)

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:55:55am

re: #166 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

I was told there would be no math

There will always be math.

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:59:20am

Watch the video - it’s only about a minute long.

Mastodon

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:59:20am

re: #177 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The Target in Moore, OK still had their display up, and some employees were wearing pride shirts.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:59:40am

re: #25 Belafon

Did he do drag shows at the policemen ball?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 7:59:55am

Today in sex ed propaganda, a film from the Sixties. (Caution for use of real words for different things, 10:50) It’s a miracle Americans actually manage to have babies.

Creepy 60’s Sex Ed Film

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:04:27am

re: #164 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

So was this. 😥
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I was beginning to think it was just me. 🙁

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:05:25am

re: #175 darthstar

I’m just glad to see Ukrainian partisans re-entering the chat now that the counter offensive is apparently underway. If they blew out some line, that can be replaced in a day or two. If it’s a bridge - even a small one - that could set Russian logistics back by a good week or two.

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:07:41am
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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:07:50am

Climbing walls.

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Unabogie  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:14:06am

re: #188 The Pie Overlord!

They went from “we just want to get married” to “we still just want to get married but now we also want this creepy lady in a Trump hat to stop harassing us when we pee”

wHeN wIlL tHey sToP hAraSSinG cHrisTiaNs?!?

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jeffreyw  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:17:30am

re: #155 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Looks like deep fried battered Cod fillets.

tilapia fillets in Mt Dew batter

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:18:00am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:18:14am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:18:26am

re: #186 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I was beginning to think it was just me. 🙁

I failed both Quordle and Wordle. I am not worthy.

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austin_blue  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:20:06am

re: #154 Mattand

PSA: If anyone is planning on traveling to Philly over the next year, heads up:

Truck fire and road collapse close I-95

This is really, really bad for the city in particular, the area in interstate travel in general. I know this is probably gonna make Philly Pretzel‘s life hell for a long while.

I-95 Was An Inside Job!!!

196
Teukka  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:22:49am

Sunday sciencey edumacation:

The Black Hole That Kills Galaxies

Click to Reveal

Quasars – Soundtrack (2023)

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:23:05am

re: #181 Belafon

There will always be math.

So true
I’m reading A Doubters Almanac right now

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:25:47am
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darthstar  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:25:53am

re: #193 Dr Lizardo

Let’s get ready to RUBLE!
A little bit lower now,
A little bit lower now,
A little bit lower now….

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:30:07am

re: #199 darthstar

Let’s get ready to RUBLE!
A little bit lower now,
A little bit lower now,
A little bit lower now….

And that’s not the street rate either. The Ruble is being artificially propped up by the Russian Central Bank.

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sagehen  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:31:11am

re: #182 darthstar

Watch the video - it’s only about a minute long.

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So is that the 21st Century version of a Fiddler on the Roof?

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:32:21am

Lot of this civically illiterate stuff lately, and the article goes on to mention some of them.
I have a friend who is from Guam. He says there has been a big upsurge in this in recent years, with various idiots demanding to see his green card or passport or such. He was once threatened with arrest as an illegal alien. Not knowing that Guam is the US is bad enough but Puerto Rico? It has about 30 times as many people and it’s fairly close to the mainland.
For that matter, I was once asked for proof of naturalization or a green card when I tried to buy a gun and had to give my birthplace (Salisbury UK) on the ATF questionnaire. They settled for my Army ID, though you do not in fact have to be a citizen to join the armed forces.
Jewelry chain apologizes for not accepting U.S. service member’s Puerto Rico driver’s license as valid U.S. ID

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:43:22am

The cops need to find the terrorists who distributed this. Not to arrest them for hate speech but to check their hard drive for kiddie porn and interview any children they know.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:44:15am

re: #202 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Shane Co. said it investigated and found that the company needs to improve employee training.

Gonzalez ultimately purchased the ring online without having to use his driver’s license. He wrote a message to Shane Co. through its Facebook account but never heard back.

The company said the message was “unfortunately overlooked by our social team and therefore left unaddressed for an unacceptable amount of time.”

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:45:50am

re: #203 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

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The cops need to find the terrorists who distributed this. Not to arrest them for hate speech but to check their hard drive for kiddie porn and interview any children they know.

Reminds me of hearing what Megan Rapinoe went through growing up in Redding.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:50:18am

re: #203 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

The cops need to find the terrorists who distributed this. Not to arrest them for hate speech but to check their hard drive for kiddie porn and interview any children they know.

Waiting for Christians to weed the genocidaires out of their subculture (the flyer quotes the Bible).

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:52:14am

I made oatmeal scone cookies (VB, this recipe uses sourdough discard!)

sourdough oatmeal scone cookies
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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:53:19am

re: #207 Backwoods Sleuth

Mmm. They look good.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:53:36am

Ever wonder if Nero might have been right when he accused the Christians of burning Rome down?
//

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:54:42am

re: #203 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I think the response to that verse needs to be “Yes, maybe you should leave them the fuck alone and stop trying to push them towards suicide.”

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BeachDem  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:56:40am

re: #198 Backwoods Sleuth

I Can’t Help but Wonder Where I’m Bound

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:56:52am

All conservatives lie.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:57:03am
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Eventual Carrion  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:57:28am

re: #101 Nerdy Fish

That was very unexpected.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 11, 2023 • 8:59:49am

re: #213 Backwoods Sleuth

I expect the Republicans to react with the same outrage they’ve used to speak out against the Trump indictment in 3… 2… 1… ///

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BeachDem  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:02:20am

re: #203 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

The cops need to find the terrorists who distributed this. Not to arrest them for hate speech but to check their hard drive for kiddie porn and interview any children they know.

Don’t get me started…

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:02:22am
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Belafon  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:02:33am
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Axolotl  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:02:52am

re: #124 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

imo the florida electorate is probably still closer to 50/50 than all red
(tfg won 51/47, though biden was ahead in the polls)

desantis last win was not indicative of the electorate but of Crist

the problem is the dems dont have a deep bench of candidates
and their organization/turnout isnt the best
and like many states, the blue areas are concentrated

I couldn’t agree more.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:04:25am

re: #215 Nerdy Fish

I expect the Republicans to react with the same outrage they’ve use. d to speak out against the Trump indictment in 3… 2… 1… ///

Maybe they’ll apply their convoluted pidgin-logic to transmute Sturgeon into a right-wing martyr, like they are busily doing with Ted Kaczynski.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:05:24am

For your weekend viewing pleasure, today’s feature film is a 1968 low-budget British gothic horror flick, The Blood Beast Terror. Stars Peter Cushing, Robert Flemyng and Wanda Ventham. Directed by Vernon Sewell.

The Blood Beast Terror (1968)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:06:51am
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Nerdy Fish  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:07:48am

re: #220 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Maybe they’ll apply their convoluted pidgin-logic to transmute Sturgeon into a right-wing martyr, like they are busily doing with Ted Kaczynski.

Well, if they are such stalwart believers that you can’t indict or arrest a country’s former leader for any crime whatsoever, then surely they must believe the British police are being weaponized against the Scottish National Party.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:10:09am

re: #222 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

OMG. What a mess. As I said earlier it is a good thing I take public transit.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:11:37am

Nebraska Legislature as reality TV, featuring filibuster and culture war drama (Associated Press, June 10, 2023)

LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) — Mention televised legislative debates, and what may come to mind are stuffy, policy-wonk discussions broadcast by C-SPAN. This year’s Nebraska Legislature was more like a reality TV show, with culture-war rhetoric, open hostility among lawmakers, name-calling, yelling and more.

Many Nebraskans couldn’t get enough of it.

“It was addictive,” said Jamie Bonkiewicz, 41, of Omaha. “If I wasn’t there, I was streaming it every day, just to hear what would come out of those senators’ mouths.”

Watching on television, streaming on computers and phones, following along in their cars, Nebraskans seemed captivated by what was easily one of the body’s most acrimonious sessions on record.

“Watching the Nebraska Legislature is like watching the worst train wreck that won’t end and the hits just keep coming,” Megan Moslander of Omaha tweeted when lawmakers triggered a constitutional challenge by combining restrictions on abortion and trangender health care into a single bill.

Many viewers tuned in as national media attention focused on a filibuster by Omaha Sen. Machaela Cavanaugh. They stayed for the surrounding turmoil.

Cavanaugh, 44, and a handful of other progressive lawmakers vowed to block every bill — even ones they supported — in an attempt to derail a proposed ban on gender-affirming care for minors. Conservative lawmakers dug in on other hot-button bills to restrict abortions, loosen gun laws and divert public money to private school scholarships.

So much for Nebraska nice: Again and again during the 90-day session, lawmakers called each other “trash” and “garbage,” accused each other of unethical behavior and angrily swore retribution for various offenses. Cavanaugh amplified the protesters’ chants and accused fellow lawmakers of pursuing genocide against trans kids.

(more)

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:14:29am

re: #221 Dr Lizardo

For your weekend viewing pleasure, today’s feature film is a 1968 low-budget British gothic horror flick, The Blood Beast Terror. Stars Peter Cushing, Robert Flemyng and Wanda Ventham. Directed by Vernon Sewell.

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Eek! How could I have overlooked Wanda Ventham? I did not recognize the name so I looked her up.

Image via Shutterstock

She also had a role in the cheesy sci-fi series UFO in the 60s. She is still with us and still active at age 87.
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:19:41am
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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:21:52am

re: #224 PhillyPretzel ✅

OMG. What a mess. As I said earlier it is a good thing I take public transit.

Methinks your trains are gonna be more crowded for a while.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:23:43am

re: #228 Rightwingconspirator

Yes they will. The Market-Frankford line (blue line) will have more passengers as will the Regional Rails.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:25:42am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:25:45am

re: #226 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Eek! How could I have overlooked Wanda Ventham? I did not recognize the name so I looked her up.

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She also had a role in the cheesy sci-fi series UFO in the 60s. She is still with us and still active at age 87.

And…this guy’s mom.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:27:49am
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Jay C  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:30:24am

re: #223 Nerdy Fish

Well, if they are such stalwart believers that you can’t indict or arrest a country’s former leader for any crime whatsoever, then surely they must believe the British police are being weaponized against the Scottish National Party.

Actually, to judge from the present British Government’s statements and actions, that scenario may not be mere paranoia/Internet crankery.
From stuff I’ve read, I gather the Tories REALLY hate the SNP - no wonder, since it’s pretty much accepted that (post-Brexit) Scotland would be a LOT likelier to bolt the UK if another independence referendum were held - and aren’t likely to want to cut any corners discrediting the party.

That said, though: it sounds like former Minister Sturgeon and her husband have gotten into trouble over simple graft (well, maybe not that simple) - according to the BBC:, there are questions as to the disposition of £666,954 in SNP donations: with suspicions that somebody has been lining their sporrans…

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:33:56am

re: #101 Nerdy Fish

That was very unexpected.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:34:02am

re: #233 Jay C

Actually, to judge from the present British Government’s statements and actions, that scenario may not be mere paranoia/Internet crankery.
From stuff I’ve read, I gather the Tories REALLY hate the SNP - no wonder, since it’s pretty much accepted that (post-Brexit) Scotland would be a LOT likelier to bolt the UK if another independence referendum were held - and aren’t likely to want to cut any corners discrediting the party.

It may very well be a realistic scenario (which is a terrifying thought in its own right), I’m merely playing up the fact that I fully expect the American right wing to be absolute hypocrites in this regard. Because that’s all they are: Hypocrites.

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🔧-wench  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:35:09am

re: #230 Backwoods Sleuth

Janey gets the rare click-thru to twitter.

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:37:41am

re: #227 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

prepare to fight 2024 election results in battleground states

So the losing losers already know they’re gonna lose.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:38:53am

Sometimes they aren’t child rapists. Sometimes they are thieves. This is an example of why you don’t give to Christian food banks (they don’t have to account for their money).

James N. Gill, the former Gallatin pastor and director of the Sumner County Food Bank was arrested today after being indicted this week by the Sumner County grand jury.

The move follows a year-long probe by the Tennessee Bureau of Investigations at the request of the Sumner County District Attorney’s office.

Gill, who is 81, served with the food bank for 14 years and is charged with Capias - Felony Theft over $250,000, Financial Transaction from Felony Theft, and two counts of Prostitution Patron. The charges stem from his involvement with the food bank - a ministry of Liberty Baptist Church in Gallatin, where Gill formerly served as pastor.

In February 2022, First Baptist Church of Hendersonville stepped in and officially took over the Sumner County Food Bank ministry that had been struggling under Gill’s supervision.

(more)

Former Sumner County Food Bank Director Indicted (Gallatin [Tenn.] News, June 9, 2023)

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🔧-wench  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:38:55am

It’s still babee birbie season.

Mastodon

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:39:06am

re: #229 PhillyPretzel ✅

Yes they will. The Market-Frankford line (blue line) will have more passengers as will the Regional Rails.

Oh you can’t get to heaven
On the Frankford El
Cause the Frankford El
Goes straight to 69th Street

(Z, a Philly boy, sang that when he was a kid)

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:44:29am

How about some Sunday morning canine Humor?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:46:22am

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:47:40am

re: #224 PhillyPretzel ✅

OMG. What a mess. As I said earlier it is a good thing I take public transit.

And I think it’s not the first time a truck fire underneath I-95 in that general area has messed with traffic for extended periods.

And before I moved out of the city that area was a constant construction zone. Luckily I did not have to go up that way very often. Usually weekends and for auto maintenance work.

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:48:13am

Look at this asshat:

And this one:

And this one:

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TedStriker  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:48:23am

re: #242 Eclectic Cyborg

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The ketchup splash in the corner…
*chef’s kiss*

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:49:08am

re: #242 Eclectic Cyborg

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I showed Mrs. Fish the infamous bathroom photograph, after having mentioned the conversation around the presence of the chandelier. Since she doesn’t closely follow any kind of political news, she was absolutely gobsmacked at the presence of dozens of boxes of classified information literally shoved behind a shower curtain. Her follow-on comment: “And people are complaining about the chandelier?!?” I had to remind her that this is intentional humor, a diversion from the hideous nature of what Trump has done.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:51:23am

re: #141 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

One issue here is Trump’s lawyers resigning.

Since the case involves classified information, any new lawyers will have to pass a security clearance investigation before they can work on the case in his defence.

This could go like other scofflaws who keep firing lawyers and getting new ones, except Trump’s lawyers will need security clearances.

Even if a conviction is possible here, I don’t see it happening before the election. Since every other GOP hopeful needs Trump’s voters to win, just like 2016 they won’t attack Trump.

Chris Christie certainly has decided he doesn’t care and he’s going all in on attacking Trump. Of course, as of now, he has 0% chance of getting the nomination and that frees him to be honest for a change. Regardless, in any legitimate debate, he would run circles around all other current Republican candidates.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:52:50am

re: #243 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

No it is not. There was one a few years ago and it caused a lot of problems. The alternate routes like Roosevelt Blvd are going to be jammed in the morning. The bus routes I take to get to Frankford Terminal (Frankford Transportation Center) cross Roosevelt Blvd at Oxford Circle. There should not be too many problems early in the morning.

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mmmirele  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:53:49am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember how much “Law and order” Sheriff Joe Arpaio cost Maricopa County, AZ in lawsuits (I have seen figures as high as $480 million): all money that could have been used for actual law enforcement or corrections, you know, law and fucking order, not vigilanteism and grandstanding.

Just for Melendres v Arpaio, as of February 23, 2023, $200,000,782 has been spent.

azfamily.com I went to the trouble of totting up the graph at the bottom to come up with the $200MM number.

This does not include other lawsuits involving the MCPO, mostly of the usual police brutality ACAB type, but others involved Arpaio being a total shitheel towards his enemies. For example, one one day in 2013, the county paid out $7.7 millon, half to former supervisor Don Stapley and half to the then owners of the Phoenix New Times. They were falsely arrested; one of the New Times’ owners was stuffed into the back of a car with Mexican state plates and disappeared for several hours.

apnews.com

Joe Arpaio is a curse on the county.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:56:32am

re: #187 Dr Lizardo

Taking cow tipping to the extremes.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:57:45am

re: #244 The Pie Overlord!

Look at this asshat:

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Most Republicans believe we live in a country where Hillary Clinton did very similar things and nothing happened to her.

Most Republicans have been lied to all my life by Republican politicians.

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2023 • 9:58:18am

re: #216 BeachDem

Don’t get me started…

I grew up outside of Redding. Went to St. Joseph’s elementary school there. It’s always been conservative but in the last 20 years has swung hard right. My brothers have friends who horde guns up there. They listen to all that conspiracy crap. Oddly, one of them started out on Drudge before drugs and alcohol addled his brain and took him deeper into the bullshit. Anyone who had a brain moved away from there and didn’t look back.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:00:07am

re: #226 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Eek! How could I have overlooked Wanda Ventham? I did not recognize the name so I looked her up.

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She also had a role in the cheesy sci-fi series UFO in the 60s. She is still with us and still active at age 87.

Oh I remember UFO. She was so cool in that show. Remember the star Ed Bishop talking about the show and how the Andersons insisted his hair had to be blond. They had him go to a beauty salon to get his hair bleached. Ed said he was always embarrassed to sit in the salon with a bunch of women laughing at him…

Oh and don’t forget the women personnel on the UFO Moon base who had to wear purple wigs and silver uniforms…

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mmmirele  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:01:20am

re: #114 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

As a friend of mine put it, and now I think it every time I drive, “Driving with a stick is more like dancing with your car.”

I’ve mentioned this before, but I had people attempt to teach me how to drive a stick, and it was a disaster, because it required a kind of coordination that I simply don’t have. In any case, I was just shy of 30 when I finally learned how to drive an automatic. I found out decades later that, uhm, yeah, it *might* be rather difficult for a person with autism to learn how to drive a car. As it is, I have to limit my activities in the car because just driving takes up all of my attention. None of this “eating lunch while putting a suit and pantyhose on while driving from Provo to SLC on I-15 to appear in court” as one of my friends used to do.

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🔧-wench  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:01:42am

re: #252 darthstar

I grew up outside of Redding. Went to St. Joseph’s elementary school there. It’s always been conservative but in the last 20 years has swung hard right. My brothers have friends who horde guns up there. They listen to all that conspiracy crap. Oddly, one of them started out on Drudge before drugs and alcohol addled his brain and took him deeper into the bullshit. Anyone who had a brain moved away from there and didn’t look back.

I went to college in Redlands. When you say. ‘Redlands’, a lot of people assume you mean Redding.

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:02:06am

re: #244 The Pie Overlord!

Look at this asshat:

Graham is going to skirt the political angle on this for as long as it helps him fund raise. Stop asking about the politics and ask about the charges. Do they support someone jeopardizing US national security or not? Take a side on the criminal behavior and own it.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:07:35am

re: #244 The Pie Overlord!

Look at this asshat:

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Those motherfathers are addicted to power and they know Trump is their key to get even more power. Republicans are all in to shield Trump and they will do and say anything to get him back in the Oval Office so they can grab even more power.

They are as addicted to power as a junky is addicted to crack or heroin.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:07:35am

re: #244 The Pie Overlord!

Today’s parrots seem to be all repeating the line “she destroyed her personal devices with hammers” (leaving out the part, that’s what the law requires).

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:07:43am

For those following the I-95 story here is the City’s update on the problem:
phila.gov

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:08:37am

re: #256 darthstar

Graham is going to skirt the political angle on this for as long as it helps him fund raise. Stop asking about the politics and ask about the charges. Do they support someone jeopardizing US national security or not? Take a side on the criminal behavior and own it.

And as usual, the Sunday political shows all seem to have Republicans on to explain (away) Republican crimes.

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BeachDem  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:08:52am

re: #252 darthstar

I grew up outside of Redding. Went to St. Joseph’s elementary school there. It’s always been conservative but in the last 20 years has swung hard right. My brothers have friends who horde guns up there. They listen to all that conspiracy crap. Oddly, one of them started out on Drudge before drugs and alcohol addled his brain and took him deeper into the bullshit. Anyone who had a brain moved away from there and didn’t look back.

And then there’s Patrick Jones, former Redding City Council member; currently chair of Shasta County’s Board of Supervisors, gunstore guy and total creep.

I have worked on projects in many northern California cities and towns, and gotta say, Redding creeped me out more than any others.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:09:45am

Just watch this whore.

Makes my blood boil.

Lindsey Graham loses it while defending Trump

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:13:23am

And then there’s Gym Neighbors…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:14:04am

Thread:

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:14:42am

re: #260 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And as usual, the Sunday political shows all seem to have Republicans on to explain (away) Republican crimes.

They can try, but they should have at least one Democrat on there to respond with, “While my Republican friends here try to gaslight America into thinking what Trump did was okay, when it comes to his trial it’s what the jury thinks that really matters.”

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:16:07am

re: #260 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And as usual, the Sunday political shows all seem to have Republicans on to explain (away) Republican crimes.

The sole purpose of the Sunday Gasbag Shows is to spread Republican propaganda.

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:18:41am

re: #262 Joe Bacon ✅

Just watch this whore.

Makes my blood boil.

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I couldn’t listen to all of that. Lindsey Graham needs to be disinvited from ever appearing on Sunday talk shows again.

George Stephanopolous needs to respond to that garbage with ridicule.

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:19:45am

re: #267 darthstar

I couldn’t listen to all of that. Lindsey Graham needs to be disinvited from ever appearing on Sunday talk shows again.

George Stephanopolous needs to respond to that garbage with ridicule.

Actually, he should have followed up with, “So are you going to offer your legal services to President Trump in his defense?”

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:20:51am

re: #267 darthstar

I couldn’t listen to all of that. Lindsey Graham needs to be disinvited from ever appearing on Sunday talk shows again.

George Stephanopolous needs to respond to that garbage with ridicule.

He won’t. His bosses at Disney make sure that the Always Been Conservative Network continues to be a cog in the 24/7 Republican Bullshit Machine.

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Jay C  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:21:30am

re: #265 darthstar

They can try, but they should have at least one Democrat on there to respond with, “While my Republican friends here try to gaslight America into thinking what Trump did was okay, when it comes to his trial it’s what the jury thinks that really matters.”

IMO, what the Democrat should do is correct the GOP liars as to the accepted interpretation of the law wrt the PRA, document security, etc.: after all, the laws are written down, and (AFAICT) fairly unambiguous as to how Presidents/ex-Presidents are supposed to treat their records: I’m sure Jim Jordan’s blithe dismissal of the relevant regulations went unchallenged..

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:23:38am

re: #270 Jay C

IMO, what the Democrat should do is correct the GOP liars as to the accepted interpretation of the law wrt the PRA, document security, etc.: after all, the laws are written down, and (AFAICT) fairly unambiguous as to how Presidents/ex-Presidents are supposed to treat their records: I’m sure Jim Jordan’s blithe dismissal of the relevant regulations went unchallenged..

The National Archive and Records Administration (NARA) even went so far as to make an FAQ explaining how the Presidential Records Act works. It literally says: “The President does not have have the capability to classify a Presidential record as personal.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:24:20am

Rep. Jamie Raskin defending an atheist jailed in Nigeria, who was jailed for the crime of criticising Islam.

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mmmirele  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:24:40am

re: #178 Nerdy Fish

The sentencing guidelines suggest that he could be facing somewhere between 3.5 and 5 years on the 18 USC 793(e) charges: Sentenced to 7-10, serving 50% of the time in jail as a first offender and if he’s a good boy. There are other charges with longer maximum sentences, but the key part is that 18 USC 793(e) is one of those crimes where the sentencing guidelines basically recommend the max sentence right off the bat. The federal judiciary does not fuck around with misappropriation of state secrets.

Whatever sentence Trump gets, he will be serving 85% of it. That’s the extent of Federal “good time.” There were some exceptions made during COVID, but those exceptions have lapsed. The Federal prison system is not like whatever goes on in state prisons.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:25:11am

‘Saddest case’ Lindsey Graham buried by authoritarian expert for clinging to Trump

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:27:16am

re: #273 mmmirele

Whatever sentence Trump gets, he will be serving 85% of it. That’s the extent of Federal “good time.” There were some exceptions made during COVID, but those exceptions have lapsed. The Federal prison system is not like whatever goes on in state prisons.

I think the original statement that said 50% was meant to imply that the sentence would be 50% hard time, 50% supervised probation, and was related to the fact that Trump would be a first-time offender. Regardless: Even if he does get the minimum recommended under the guidelines, of 3.5 years Fed. Pen. time and 3.5 years supervised probation, do you really think that’s going to be a good time for a 76-year-old, morbidly obese man? The odds are good that the Republicans are correct, and that their con man will die in prison.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:28:49am

re: #275 Nerdy Fish

I think the original statement that said 50% was meant to imply that the sentence would be 50% hard time, 50% supervised probation, and was related to the fact that Trump would be a first-time offender. Regardless: Even if he does get the minimum recommended under the guidelines, of 3.5 years Fed. Pen. time and 3.5 years supervised probation, do you really think that’s going to be a good time for a 76-year-old, morbidly obese man? The odds are good that the Republicans are correct, and that their con man will die in prison.

He’ll be screaming about not getting his daily Super Sized Big Mac meals.

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mmmirele  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:29:14am

re: #203 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

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The cops need to find the terrorists who distributed this. Not to arrest them for hate speech but to check their hard drive for kiddie porn and interview any children they know.

The leaders of the dominant church in Redding, Bethel Redding, need to be held accountable for this garbage. Bill Johnson, Kris Vallotton, and the rest of the high muckety mucks at Bethel who have taught for decades that being LGBTQIA is sinful, who have pushed conversion therapy, etc., they need to be CONFRONTED.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:32:46am

re: #277 mmmirele

The leaders of the dominant church in Redding, Bethel Redding, need to be held accountable for this garbage. Bill Johnson, Kris Vallotton, and the rest of the high muckety mucks at Bethel who have taught for decades that being LGBTQIA is sinful, who have pushed conversion therapy, etc., they need to be CONFRONTED.

And you can be assured that today Bethel Church will double down on the hate during their brainwashing sessions.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:33:08am

re: #274 Joe Bacon ✅

‘Saddest case’ Lindsey Graham buried by authoritarian expert for clinging to Trump

I still want to know what it was Donald Trump talked about in that private golf outing with Lindsey Graham. Graham flipped immediately to a Trump supporter.

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:33:45am

re: #275 Nerdy Fish

He’s not a first time offender. He’s a serial offender. This is just the first time he’s being held criminally liable. He paid millions in fines for money laundering when he was a casino owner. He paid millions in damages for running a fraudulent ‘university’. He’s been banned from ever participating in a charity in New York because he and his children stole from a chairty.

So let’s not call him a first time offender.

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:34:08am

re: #279 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I still want to know what it was Donald Trump talked about in that private golf outing with Lindsey Graham. Graham flipped immediately to a Trump supporter.

Lady bugs.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:35:28am

re: #280 darthstar

He’s not a first time offender. He’s a serial offender. This is just the first time he’s being held criminally liable. He paid millions in fines for money laundering when he was a casino owner. He paid millions in damages for running a fraudulent ‘university’. He’s been banned from ever participating in a charity in New York because he and his children stole from a chairty.

So let’s not call him a first time offender.

While that’s true, in the strict sense of, “Has Donald John Trump been convicted of federal crimes in a federal court,” the answer is unequivocally no. As far as the Federal Sentencing Guidelines are concerned, that’s all that matters. Is it stupid? Yes. But them’s the rules.

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silverdolphin  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:38:13am

The GOP is a cult. And he likely could kill someone on Fifth Ave and see his numbers go up.

New Indictment Hasn’t Hurt Trump’s Standing

“”In fact, most Republican primary voters would not generally consider him keeping the alleged documents with nuclear systems or military plans to be a national security risk, in and of itself.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:45:52am

re: #282 Nerdy Fish

While that’s true, in the strict sense of, “Has Donald John Trump been convicted of federal crimes in a federal court,” the answer is unequivocally no. As far as the Federal Sentencing Guidelines are concerned, that’s all that matters. Is it stupid? Yes. But them’s the rules.

How does his conviction for racist housing discrimination fit into “first time offender?”

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:46:30am
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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:48:09am
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Nerdy Fish  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:49:12am

re: #284 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

How does his conviction for racist housing discrimination fit into “first time offender?”

Alas, I am not a lawyer. Was that a crime, or a civil liability lawsuit? Was it a state crime? I assume all these are variables, and I don’t know how they play into the federal sentencing guidelines. I’m just reporting what I have seen from people who are lawyers (specifically, it was a thread from former federal prosecutor Ken White, the ubiquitous Popehat).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:49:15am

Well, here’s a sentence. It has made-up words and doesn’t make any sense, but it is a sentence.

I would download this E-book and tear it apart, but I can write the entire book off just by its title with the acronym PRATT.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:49:29am

re: #286 Joe Bacon ✅

We will, in fact, have a new Gestapo throughout the country if Trump wins again. This is now indisputable.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:50:36am

re: #289 Florida Panhandler

We will, in fact, have a new Gestapo throughout the country if Trump wins again. This is now indisputable.

And it will operate out of right wing megachurches.

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:53:33am

re: #283 silverdolphin

A cult of criminal scammers and their marks.

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:55:01am

Republican fantasies and lies die in court, as long as enough judges remain in the “not yet corrupted” column.

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:55:37am
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darthstar  Jun 11, 2023 • 10:59:57am

Looks like the unabomber may have taken his own life.

Mastodon

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2023 • 11:01:22am

re: #291 jaunte

A cult of criminal scammers and their marks.

Good. I hope he realizes she’s making bank on him. I was thinking of starting my own GoFundMe for Trump. 99.99% of the money donated would go to ‘administrative’ costs.

Oh wait…I’m not a grifter…shit.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 11:07:36am

re: #289 Florida Panhandler

We will, in fact, have a new Gestapo throughout the country if Trump wins again. This is now indisputable.

He had the chance to pardon them before, and he let them rot in prison.

Unless you have something of value to Trump, you are meaningless.

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2023 • 11:08:07am

re: #291 jaunte

A cult of criminal scammers and their marks.

I had to look it up…it is 99%

Mastodon

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2023 • 11:09:16am

re: #297 darthstar

I had to look it up…it is 99%

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Oh, and did I mention she defaults the donation to being a recurring monthly payment?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2023 • 11:09:50am

re: #291 jaunte

A cult of criminal scammers and their marks.

Trump did the same thing with Herschel Walker.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 11, 2023 • 12:00:41pm

re: #275 Nerdy Fish

I think the original statement that said 50% was meant to imply that the sentence would be 50% hard time, 50% supervised probation, and was related to the fact that Trump would be a first-time offender. Regardless: Even if he does get the minimum recommended under the guidelines, of 3.5 years Fed. Pen. time and 3.5 years supervised probation, do you really think that’s going to be a good time for a 76-year-old, morbidly obese man? The odds are good that the Republicans are correct, and that their con man will die in prison.

Being cut off from a phone, the adulation, and the ability to bully people around will kill him.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jun 11, 2023 • 12:53:15pm

re: #264 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷


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