Paul Gilbert Shreds Live: “Holy Diver”

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Paul Gilbert would like to remind you all that Nuno Bettencourt is not the only bad-ass shredder on the scene.

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Hot off the heels of releasing The Dio Album, Paul Gilbert stopped by Sweetwater Studios to talk all things riffs, gear, and the legacy of the late Ronnie James Dio. Oh, he also treated us to a searing performance of his cover of Dio’s “Holy Diver,” aided by Sweetwater’s own sound hounds Nick Bowcott, Don Carr, Nick D’Virgilio, and Sweetwater Sales Engineer Andy Rice, on guitars, drums, and bass, respectively. Besides honoring Dio’s extensive catalogue of timeless tunes, Paul took a distinct approach to voicing by eschewing vocals and expressing those lines on the guitar, resulting in a unique take on these classic tracks that retains the unbridled spirit that defined Ronnie James Dio’s work throughout his life. Take a listen!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jun 13, 2023 • 6:26:44pm

Good lord, what have we done to Canada?

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ckkatz  Jun 13, 2023 • 6:28:00pm

Rachel Maddow just played a clip of an interview with NY AG Leticia James where she said that the Trump case will require the state level cases be held in adjournment. And specifically mention Fani Williams’ case as well. Fani Williams was then quoted as basically saying in response “Nope”.

Discussion by the panel of talking heads seems to have concluded that this was a courtesy deferring to the Feds by the States rather than a legal requirement. And that each court sets its own schedule. And the facts determined in Federal court can be used in other cases. Plus if Cannon delays too much, the other courts can say “screw this, we’re going forward!”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jun 13, 2023 • 6:30:49pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 13, 2023 • 6:33:47pm

re: #2 ckkatz

Rachel Maddow just played a clip of an interview with NY AG Leticia James where she said that the Trump case will require the state level cases be held in adjournment. And specifically mention Fani Williams’ case as well. Fani Williams was then quoted as basically saying in response “Nope”.

Discussion by the panel of talking heads seems to have concluded that this was a courtesy deferring to the Feds by the States rather than a legal requirement. And that each court sets its own schedule. And the facts determined in Federal court can be used in other cases. Plus if Cannon delays too much, the other courts can say “screw this, we’re going forward!”

Yeah, I expect Trump’s weasels to do everything they can go forward to delay, pushing the state cases back and lodging as many protests and complaints as they can in the federal cases to push back their own schedules until after next November. Or at the very least until August, when they’ll try to claim that the DOJ’s own policy of not doing for 90 days prior to an election that might influence it means all legal proceedings must be put on hold until after Election Day.

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ckkatz  Jun 13, 2023 • 6:34:16pm

re: #1 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

I wonder if the bully chose his victim because the attacked girl had two moms.
(From the article.)

Two Kelowna moms are speaking out after their 9-year-old daughter was verbally assaulted at a track and field event on Thursday at Kelowna’s Apple Bowl.

I am also glad to hear that the school district is working to ban the bully -

Central Okanagan School District superintendent Kevin Kaardal confirmed with Castanet that steps are being taken to ban the man from all school-related events.

“Staff intervened and actually moved the shot-put away from where he was. The gentleman was not a part of our school district. We are taking steps to ensure he is not able to be on our school property or attend events in the future.”

Kaardal said the incident was “totally unacceptable.”

Finally - I do wonder if the guy is doing steroids.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 13, 2023 • 6:35:17pm

Make no mistake about it.

Fox is programming the next Scott Roeder and Caesar Sayoc to kill for the GOP.

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 13, 2023 • 6:35:59pm
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ckkatz  Jun 13, 2023 • 6:40:42pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 13, 2023 • 6:46:46pm

Danger Yam could die tonight and the entire GOP would celebrate.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 13, 2023 • 6:47:33pm

re: #9 Ace Rothstein

Danger Yam could die tonight and the entire GOP would celebrate.

Faux News: “THIRD-WORLD COUNTRY DICTATOR EXECUTES POLITICAL RIVAL WITH STRESS DUE TO UNFAIR PERSECUTION”

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teleskiguy  Jun 13, 2023 • 6:50:42pm
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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 13, 2023 • 6:53:53pm

re: #175 mmmirele

Did anyone else flash back to “Lord of the Flies” in high school?

I figured the rest of the pig was split & roasting in a China box in the guys backyard.

Lechon Asado.

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teleskiguy  Jun 13, 2023 • 6:55:06pm

“Poor” Richard Carnes has had a weekly column in my local paper for decades. He used to own the record store where I bought most of my albums as an adolescent. He’s got a good one this week.

Mastodon

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 13, 2023 • 6:55:07pm

High speed chase in Long Beach

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jun 13, 2023 • 6:55:09pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jun 13, 2023 • 6:57:18pm

re: #14 Vicious Babushka

High speed chase in Long Beach

Gave up, chase over

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 13, 2023 • 6:57:31pm

EDIT: Nevermind. I was wrong.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 13, 2023 • 6:59:14pm
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Vicious Babushka  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:01:53pm

Meanwhile back to the main event:

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:03:30pm

Oh wait, he did that already:

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:04:10pm
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jaunte  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:05:47pm

re: #21 The Ghost of a Flea

Seems like a pretty straightforward bank robbery.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:12:09pm
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ckkatz  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:23:49pm

I’m not going to repost them, but apparently some information regarding Russian blocking squads is starting to appear online.

Blocking squads are units of soldiers whose mission is to shoot retreating frontline soldiers. During WW2 both Russian and German armies deployed them.

The Ukrainians appear to have penetrated sufficiently deeply into Russian lines to trigger their use.

However, it does not appear that the Ukrainians have been reported to have reached or penetrated the formal Russian prepared defenses in many places. These defenses are often 5-10 miles behind the original frontlines of earlier this month.

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:25:05pm

How much is Putin (or the GOP) paying this tool?

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:26:27pm

Jack is going to play this at the trial, along with TFG’s many other confessions.

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darthstar  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:28:06pm

Mastodon

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:28:09pm

re: #26 Vicious Babushka

Jack is going to play this at the trial, along with TFG’s many other confessions.

Did it never occur to him to ask somebody how Presidential libraries work? That maybe, after Nixon, the government might have an interest in controlling the abilities of Presidents to just do what they want with records created during their Presidency?

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:31:57pm

re: #28 Nerdy Fish

Did it never occur to him to ask somebody how Presidential libraries work? That maybe, after Nixon, the government might have an interest in controlling the abilities of Presidents to just do what they want with records created during their Presidency?

He doesn’t give a shit about how anything works, only what works for him.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:34:01pm

re: #25 Vicious Babushka

How much is Putin (or the GOP) paying this tool?

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Grievance, I suspect. Brother Cornel feels he’s been abused by the MSM and academic institutions.

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teleskiguy  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:39:46pm

re: #21 The Ghost of a Flea

Private equity firms. The ones that Mitt Romney specialized in. They’ve ruined kitchen appliance companies, ski areas, department stores, newspapers, radio stations…

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:41:32pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

That it’s better than the Trump supporting Republicans they would only have on if the Lincoln Project people didn’t exist.

Does anyone think the media would have multiple Democrats on giving their behavior over the last 20+ years?

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teleskiguy  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:42:37pm

re: #26 Vicious Babushka

It’s any wonder why he can’t retain qualified and effective counsel. I laughed when I found out that two of his lawyers quit on the spot an hour or two after the indictment was unsealed.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:43:09pm

re: #24 ckkatz

I’m not going to repost them, but apparently some information regarding Russian blocking squads is starting to appear online.

Blocking squads are units of soldiers whose mission is to shoot retreating frontline soldiers. During WW2 both Russian and German armies deployed them.

The Ukrainians appear to have penetrated sufficiently deeply into Russian lines to trigger their use.

However, it does not appear that the Ukrainians have been reported to have reached or penetrated the formal Russian prepared defenses in many places. These defenses are often 5-10 miles behind the original frontlines of earlier this month.

In the age of close order advances, most armies used blocking troops, known in the US as line-closers. Both Union and Confederate forces used them in the Civil War but they disappeared from the US and most other armies soon afterward.

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jaunte  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:43:28pm
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Belafon  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:44:34pm

re: #21 The Ghost of a Flea

The one thing I hate worse than short selling.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:45:24pm

re: #35 jaunte

“How long is this going to last?”

Until Trump dies, probably.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:45:31pm

re: #26 Vicious Babushka

Jack is going to play this at the trial, along with TFG’s many other confessions.

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And Cannon will probably accept that logic. The Federalist Society is out there to turn our democracy into a GOP-run autocracy where Republican Presidents have unlimited power and Democratic Presidents need to be cut off at the knee.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:46:19pm

re: #34 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

In the age of close order advances, most armies used blocking troops, known in the US as line-closers. Both Union and Confederate forces used them in the Civil War but they disappeared from the US and most other armies soon afterward.

Most modern armies realized relatively quickly that morale among troops who are held on the front lines with threats of being shot is as bad, or worse, as the morale of troops who are fleeing the battlefield. However, there are usually quite a few more of the latter than of the former for you to round up, withdraw, and regroup.

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A Three Hour Tour  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:49:34pm

re: #30 Barefoot Grin

Grievance, I suspect. Brother Cornel feels he’s been abused by the MSM and academic institutions.

And Brother Obama didn’t give him free tickets to his Inauguration in 2009.

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jaunte  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:50:13pm

@tedlieu

1. Presidential Records Act defense does not apply to classified documents from federal agencies.
2. The Bill Clinton case did not involve classified documents.
3. Trump just admitted to some elements the prosecution would need to prove. Prosecutors can now just show this tape.

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jaunte  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:52:21pm

Turns out TFG is representing himself.

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teleskiguy  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:54:21pm

re: #42 jaunte

Turns out TFG is representing himself.

He’s completely out of any lawyer’s control. Has been probably his whole life. Kind of how he got to where he is today, I imagine.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:54:49pm

And now the GOP is going to cut Jack Smith’s funding off. Radical Republicans are now threatening to shut the government down if Smith doesn’t stop.

Subpoenas, spending bills and strategy sessions: House GOP plots multi-pronged attack on special counsel probe of Trump

cnn.com

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:57:12pm

re: #25 Vicious Babushka

How much is Putin (or the GOP) paying this tool?

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Criswell Bacon previously commented that Cornel West wanted to be to Jill Stein of 2024 and he’s doing it. He will gladly had the Presidency over to Trump again.

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darthstar  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:57:41pm

Go bugs!

Mastodon

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jaunte  Jun 13, 2023 • 7:59:53pm

re: #46 darthstar

Here we go. I think Stand on Zanzibar may have mentioned that, among other predictions.
interestingliterature.com.

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darthstar  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:00:14pm

re: #37 Eclectic Cyborg

“How long is this going to last?”

Until Trump dies, probably.

I think if their fear of Trump holds long enough, he can continue to hurt the GOP long after he’s dead.

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jaunte  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:01:25pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:02:51pm

Sportspuck news: Las Vegas Golden Knights win Stanley Cup to clinch cities first championship since pro sports arrived a few years back.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:04:19pm

re: #48 darthstar

I think if their fear of Trump holds long enough, he can continue to hurt the GOP long after he’s dead.

Trump has taught them what they need to do to retain power. It is not the GOP that he is hurting, it is our nation that he may have irreparably damaged.

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William Lewis  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:07:02pm

re: #47 jaunte

Here we go. I think Stand on Zanzibar may have mentioned that, among other predictions.
interestingliterature.com.

“The Shockwave Rider” was a far better and far more insightful novel. All Zanzibar was, really, was a rehash of the Club Of Rome’s doom and gloom.

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jaunte  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:07:42pm

re: #52 William Lewis

Thanks, I’ll have to read that one.

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austin_blue  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:09:52pm

re: #27 darthstar

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Squash Blossoms taste Good.

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teleskiguy  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:09:52pm

Michigan is a vivid display of the urban/rural divide these days.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:10:36pm

re: #50 Eclectic Cyborg

Sportspuck news: Las Vegas Knights win Stanley Cup to clinch cities first championship since pro sports arrived a few years back.

The Raiders are feeling encouraged tonight.
Athletics dreaming of what can be. (league owners could hold relocation vote in the coming days)

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jaunte  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:11:42pm
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jaunte  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:11:51pm
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austin_blue  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:13:00pm

re: #35 jaunte

ForFuckinEver.

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jaunte  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:13:24pm

Wild-eyed lib J. Michael Luttig.
constitutioncenter.org

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austin_blue  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:15:25pm

re: #47 jaunte

Here we go. I think Stand on Zanzibar may have mentioned that, among other predictions.
interestingliterature.com.

Jon Brunner was a visionary writer.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:19:40pm

re: #52 William Lewis

“The Shockwave Rider” was a far better and far more insightful novel. All Zanzibar was, really, was a rehash of the Club Of Rome’s doom and gloom.

Are you thinking of The Sheep Look Up ? Stand on Zanzibar was something else entirely, even if it took periodic note of population growth. And yes, I liked The Shockwave Rider a lot too.

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teleskiguy  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:20:12pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

Looking at this map makes me make more sense of Michigan as three different geographic regions. We’re looking at Lower Michigan in the county-by-county graph, the southern part of Michigan’s Lower Peninsula. Then there’s Upper Michigan, that is to say the northern part of the Lower Peninsula of Michigan. One of my best friends lives near Torch Lake and is the Chef at Torch Lake Cafe if you’re ever in the area. Then there’s the Upper Peninsula. Which has a population density that rivals Wyoming.

I saw all three inside of a week back in Sept. 2021. There’s lots of trees in Michigan.

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:23:46pm
Then there’s Upper Michigan, that is to say the northern part of the Lower Peninsula of Michigan.

We Michiganders call that part of the state Up North, and the Upper Peninsula (which contains more moose than people) we call the Yoop.

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austin_blue  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:26:12pm

re: #61 austin_blue

Jon Brunner was a visionary writer.

Oh you want an example? Here’s his quote from John Milton that opens his dystopian novel The Sheep Look Up

The hungry sheep look up,
And are not fed.
But swoln with wind,
And the rank mist they draw,
Rot inwardly, and foul contagion spread.

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teleskiguy  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:26:57pm

re: #64 Vicious Babushka

Yoopers! I’ve ran into a few myself over the years. Yes, they left and came to ski/snowboard in Colorado. Every Yooper I’ve met in Colorado have been very cool people.

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:27:38pm

re: #66 teleskiguy

Yoopers! I’ve ran into a few myself over the years. Yes, they left and came to ski/snowboard in Colorado. Every Yooper I’ve met in Colorado have been very cool people.

Yoopers can be mistaken for Canadians because of their accent.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:30:02pm

re: #67 Vicious Babushka

Yoopers can be mistaken for Canadians because of their accent.

Yah, sure, ya betcha.

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:31:03pm

re: #67 Vicious Babushka

Yoopers can be mistaken for Canadians because of their accent.

I suggested Michigan to my wife as a possible move destination and she told me she wouldn’t be able to handle the winters.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:31:08pm

re: #1 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Thank the internet. Before craziness tended to pool in specific and small areas.

Now the madness can spread far and wide.

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William Lewis  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:31:48pm

re: #62 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Are you thinking of The Sheep Look Up ? Stand on Zanzibar was something else entirely, even if it took periodic note of population growth. And yes, I liked The Shockwave Rider a lot too.

Most of his work then was deeply terrified of the malthusian predictions of Rome - overpopulation especially. But resource scarcity was also a big plot driver om several of his books.

Shockwave, to my memory at least, was the first to use a different kind of dystopian future for it’s setting as well as the first semi accurate depiction of computer hacking.

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teleskiguy  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:31:57pm

re: #67 Vicious Babushka

When I was there we did the Secret Spot in St. Ignace and drove to Whitefish Point. I remember the drive between these places as quite remote, you’re far from anywhere in a lot of places in the Yoop.

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teleskiguy  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:34:59pm

I and my close friend made sure to visit Tahquamenon Falls in the Yoop. Gorgeous. One of my favorite places I’ve visited east of the Mississippi.

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austin_blue  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:35:02pm

re: #66 teleskiguy

Yoopers! I’ve ran into a few myself over the years. Yes, they left and came to ski/snowboard in Colorado. Every Yooper I’ve met in Colorado have been very cool people.

I was a Yooper for 3 1/2 years when I was in the AF, living in Marquette, MI and sitting nuclear alert at KI Sawyer AFB.

The natives were…interesting. An odd confluence of Finnlanders, Cornish miners, and Welsh miners (don’t confuse those last two groups, fights will break out), The folks I lived with up there were some of the kindest people I ever knew. The would also happily drink a bottle of schnapps before switching over to Brandy for some serious drinking. They wore me out.

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teleskiguy  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:36:51pm

re: #74 austin_blue

Fascinating! Them Scandinavians! if only they had tall mountains to ski they wouldn’t drink so much! i dunno

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austin_blue  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:37:01pm

re: #69 Belafon

I suggested Michigan to my wife as a possible move destination and she told me she wouldn’t be able to handle the winters.

Well yeah, Marquette *averaged* 144” of snow when I was up there.

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William Lewis  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:41:43pm

re: #75 teleskiguy

Fascinating! Them Scandinavians! if only they had tall mountains to ski they wouldn’t drink so much! i dunno

Cross-country skiing is popular instead.

Personally, I’d rather a pair of snowshoes but that’s horses for courses….😉

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austin_blue  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:45:08pm

That’s it for me. I’ve got Plumbers over tomorrow to screw me out of $1800 to fix a bunch of shit we have been putting off.

70 year old valves and pipes need to be replaced at some point, don’t they? Now is the time.

Sweet dreams, be kind to each other.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:45:29pm

Cross country skiing is a hell of a workout.

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darthstar  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:48:36pm

So at the KQED taste & sip event last night, some guy asked me if I was from Orange is the New Black. I said, “Are you saying I look like a criminal?” - and he said “Not the prisoners, the guard…” so I had to go look it up as I never watched the show.

Here’s me and my mom on Mother’s day.

And here’s the fat guard he was comparing me to.

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teleskiguy  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:56:44pm

Tennessee Mountain Angel

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Targetpractice  Jun 13, 2023 • 8:59:17pm

re: #80 darthstar

So at the KQED taste & sip event last night, some guy asked me if I was from Orange is the New Black. I said, “Are you saying I look like a criminal?” - and he said “Not the prisoners, the guard…” so I had to go look it up as I never watched the show.

Here’s me and my mom on Mother’s day.

[Embedded content]

Well, I gotta admit, the resemblance is strong.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 13, 2023 • 9:07:07pm

re: #26 Vicious Babushka

Jack is going to play this at the trial, along with TFG’s many other confessions.

One of these speeches Trump’s going to screw up and accidentally and finally confess “it was my Right to sell those documents.”

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Targetpractice  Jun 13, 2023 • 9:13:27pm

Trump remains a nightmare client, the kinda guy that lawyers dream of standing on the opposite side of the room from, not being the poor schmuck standing next to them as the judge is tearing them their third new one that week. He’s an absolute oddity to the legal world, the sort of client you would expect to be telling the lawyers his folks hired for him off before announcing he’s gonna be representing himself. He’s only about half a step above the SovCit nutters who babble about fringe on flags and how they’re gonna sue the court.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 13, 2023 • 9:15:30pm

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2023 • 9:17:18pm
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jaunte  Jun 13, 2023 • 9:17:20pm

cbr.com

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 13, 2023 • 9:17:48pm

50 years ago Sam Ervin’s Watergate Committee was starting up. Remember watching those hearings and I never thought the country could have anything worse than the shit Tricky Dicky pulled off.

Holly Shit was I WRONG!

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ckkatz  Jun 13, 2023 • 9:18:02pm

I’m assuming //////
At least I hope that’s the case…

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2023 • 9:19:12pm
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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 13, 2023 • 9:20:27pm

re: #87 jaunte

Aw crap. Rept in peace, Mr. Romita. Steve Ditko handed Spider Man over to you and you were just remarkable with it. 😢

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 13, 2023 • 9:20:29pm

re: #47 jaunte

Here we go. I think Stand on Zanzibar may have mentioned that, among other predictions.
interestingliterature.com.

I read Stand on Zanzibar as a teen back in the early 70s. I don’t remember too much about it other than I didn’t really understand it. After seeing it mentioned here, I took a look as some synopsis’s of it as well as the linked article and I can now see why. Its pretty deep for a 14- or 15-year old. I’ll put it on my read-again list and maybe I’ll get to it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 13, 2023 • 9:21:24pm

re: #89 ckkatz

I’m assuming //////
At least I hope that’s the case…

[Embedded content]

They’ve been observing us for centuries and now they are plotting on taking control.

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 13, 2023 • 9:23:57pm

re: #93 Hecuba’s daughter

They’ve been observing us for centuries and now they are plotting on taking control.

Imagine what could happen if they ever start using AI!

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2023 • 9:26:45pm

re: #89 ckkatz

The cetacean revolution has begun. I, for one, welcome our new cetacean overlords.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2023 • 9:47:37pm

re: #96 Belafon

The Simpsons predicting our future yet again?

Back later. Off to work.

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2023 • 9:57:31pm
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sagehen  Jun 13, 2023 • 9:57:42pm

re: #80 darthstar

So at the KQED taste & sip event last night, some guy asked me if I was from Orange is the New Black. I said, “Are you saying I look like a criminal?” - and he said “Not the prisoners, the guard…” so I had to go look it up as I never watched the show.

Here’s me and my mom on Mother’s day.

[Embedded content]

I hope you don’t take offense that I can see the resemblance.

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Teukka  Jun 13, 2023 • 10:00:38pm

re: #1 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Good lord, what have we done to Canada?

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sagehen  Jun 13, 2023 • 10:06:08pm

re: #89 ckkatz

I’m assuming //////
At least I hope that’s the case…

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silverdolphin  Jun 13, 2023 • 10:06:16pm

re: #52 William Lewis

“The Shockwave Rider” was a far better and far more insightful novel. All Zanzibar was, really, was a rehash of the Club Of Rome’s doom and gloom.

I completely agree. Shockwave Rider came closer to describing the world we live in than almost anything other novel, while still being an awesome science fiction novel. Not describing by predicitng but by getting the FEEL of the world today.

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silverdolphin  Jun 13, 2023 • 10:07:36pm

re: #53 jaunte

Thanks, I’ll have to read that one.

DO find it. I found it much more accessible than Stand on Zanzibar and quite a lot of fun. Love to see a miniseries based on it.

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silverdolphin  Jun 13, 2023 • 10:11:17pm

re: #71 William Lewis

Most of his work then was deeply terrified of the malthusian predictions of Rome - overpopulation especially. But resource scarcity was also a big plot driver om several of his books.

Shockwave, to my memory at least, was the first to use a different kind of dystopian future for it’s setting as well as the first semi accurate depiction of computer hacking.

Yep. The protagonist essenitlaly lived a life without a digital footprint as much as possible, as I recall. Obviously derived from Toffler’s Future Shock. NIce look at how tech could be used and misused. I have not read it in years but the metaphor of a suerfer on a wave riding into the future has stuck with me.

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silverdolphin  Jun 13, 2023 • 10:15:51pm

re: #86 Belafon

Anencephaly is one of the worst deformities.Only inhuman monsters would want to put another person through the trauma and possibility of death by forcing her to give birth.

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William Lewis  Jun 13, 2023 • 10:18:43pm

re: #105 silverdolphin

Anacephaly is one of the worst deformities.Only inhuman monsters would want to put another person through the trauma and possibility of death by forcing her to give birth.

Frankly Governor Hotwheels needs to be renditioned to the International Criminal Court in The Hague on charges of Human Trafficking and Crimes Against Humanity.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 13, 2023 • 10:36:34pm

re: #102 silverdolphin

I completely agree. Shockwave Rider came closer to describing the world we live in than almost anything other novel, while still being an awesome science fiction novel. Not describing by predicitng but by getting the FEEL of the world today.

I just started my first sci-fi novel in ages — one recommended by an employee at Barnes & Noble yesterday — The Space Between Worlds. I wanted a parallel worlds novel and this is the one he suggested. But will try Shockwave Rider next.

Covid news…

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And on the Wednesday wordle front: a beagle

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William Lewis  Jun 13, 2023 • 10:45:50pm

re: #107 Hecuba’s daughter

I just started my first sci-fi novel in ages — one recommended by an employee at Barnes & Noble yesterday — The Space Between Worlds. I wanted a parallel worlds novel and this is the one he suggested. But will try Shockwave Rider next.

Covid news…

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If you decide to continue with you SF reading, an exquisite modern trilogy that explores fascinating depths of language and gender, pick up “Ancillary Justice” by Ann Leckie
The next two are “Ancillary Sword” and “Ancillary Mercy”. Easily the finest SF I read since Gibson’s Sprawl Trilogy in the mid-80’s.

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silverdolphin  Jun 13, 2023 • 10:46:17pm

GOP Lawmakers Float Bypassing Hardliners

They want to do this by soliciting Democrats to help on the votes. So we are seeing the “sane” Republicans working with Democrats. I expect this will happen more and more as the GOP fractures due to the hardener Freedom caucus.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 13, 2023 • 11:04:36pm

Klannie Oakley beating the impeachment drum again…never mind that the drumhead is torn because that ass will continue to beat it.

rawstory.com

And of course Fox News joins in demanding impeachment.

Klannie O also introducing impeachment articles against Kamala.

The far-right congresswoman also cosponsored articles of impeachment against Vice President Kamala Harris with Rep. Andy Ogles (R-Tenn.) on Monday.

Boebert threatened to use a “privileged motion” if her congressional colleagues fail to take imminent action. A privileged motion is described as a parliamentary maneuver used to expedite action over urgent matters.

“I introduced the articles of impeachment in the last Congress and had fully intended to introduce them this Congress, but I was also giving some other committees and leadership the opportunity to lead on this,” Boebert said Tuesday in an interview with Fox News Digital.

Doesn’t this shrew have some domestic problems that she really needs to attend with?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 13, 2023 • 11:07:08pm

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 13, 2023 • 11:11:07pm

re: #110 Joe Bacon ✅

Klannie Oakley beating the impeachment drum again…never mind that the drumhead is torn because that ass will continue to beat it.

rawstory.com

And of course Fox News joins in demanding impeachment.

Klannie O also introducing impeachment articles against Kamala.

The far-right congresswoman also cosponsored articles of impeachment against Vice President Kamala Harris with Rep. Andy Ogles (R-Tenn.) on Monday.

Boebert threatened to use a “privileged motion” if her congressional colleagues fail to take imminent action. A privileged motion is described as a parliamentary maneuver used to expedite action over urgent matters.

“I introduced the articles of impeachment in the last Congress and had fully intended to introduce them this Congress, but I was also giving some other committees and leadership the opportunity to lead on this,” Boebert said Tuesday in an interview with Fox News Digital.

Doesn’t this shrew have some domestic problems that she really needs to attend with?

Is this the official Republican response to Trump’s indictment for violation of the Espionage Act? Putin must be celebrating on the dissension being sown throughout our nation.

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Targetpractice  Jun 13, 2023 • 11:16:21pm

re: #110 Joe Bacon ✅

Klannie Oakley beating the impeachment drum again…never mind that the drumhead is torn because that ass will continue to beat it.

rawstory.com

And of course Fox News joins in demanding impeachment.

Klannie O also introducing impeachment articles against Kamala.

The far-right congresswoman also cosponsored articles of impeachment against Vice President Kamala Harris with Rep. Andy Ogles (R-Tenn.) on Monday.

Boebert threatened to use a “privileged motion” if her congressional colleagues fail to take imminent action. A privileged motion is described as a parliamentary maneuver used to expedite action over urgent matters.

“I introduced the articles of impeachment in the last Congress and had fully intended to introduce them this Congress, but I was also giving some other committees and leadership the opportunity to lead on this,” Boebert said Tuesday in an interview with Fox News Digital.

Doesn’t this shrew have some domestic problems that she really needs to attend with?

I say go for it. Seriously, further fracture your caucus’ cohesion by putting Repubs running for reelection in blue and purple districts on the spot to vote whether or not they wanna impeach Biden for failing to turn our southern border into a No Man’s Land. Let’s spend days if not weeks on bringing in various wild-eyed “experts” to tell us why the end of Title 42 failed to result in a massive uptick in border crossings, why “THE WALL” has been bypassed or even cut through so many times that it’s a national embarrassment, and why every federal and state effort to keep out “illegals” has resulted in this country running a “labor shortage” such that Repubs across the country are trying to force children and the elderly to pick up the slack.

Go for it, I FUCKING DARE YOU!

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EstebanTornado1963  Jun 13, 2023 • 11:29:26pm

re: #50 Eclectic Cyborg

Sportspuck news: Las Vegas Golden Knights win Stanley Cup to clinch cities first championship since pro sports arrived a few years back.

The WNBA’s Las Vegas Aces won the championship last year.
wnba.com

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 13, 2023 • 11:34:05pm

re: #104 silverdolphin

Yep. The protagonist essenitlaly lived a life without a digital footprint as much as possible, as I recall. Obviously derived from Toffler’s Future Shock. NIce look at how tech could be used and misused. I have not read it in years but the metaphor of a suerfer on a wave riding into the future has stuck with me.

Max Headroom riffed on this by having “blanks”, unregistered people. They were, of course, without registration, therefore, without rights. Simple. There was a reason why Bravo called that show, “TV Too Good For TV”.

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Captain Ron  Jun 13, 2023 • 11:59:35pm
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Captain Ron  Jun 14, 2023 • 12:13:40am

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ericblair  Jun 14, 2023 • 12:30:28am

Standard narcissist behavior. He wants them to dance for him to show his power over them. Making people tell the truth for you doesn’t do that; making people lie obviously and openly for you does.

Of course it makes their lives harder, and likely his too, but he can’t not do this.

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2023 • 12:31:21am
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Targetpractice  Jun 14, 2023 • 12:53:22am

re: #120 Teukka

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Your regular reminder that the asshats who believe that “What is a woman?” is a pithy intellectual argument against transsexualism also believe that the only outwardly defining characteristic of a woman is a pair of visible breasts.

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2023 • 12:55:07am
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Targetpractice  Jun 14, 2023 • 1:09:30am

re: #122 Teukka

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The subtitles say “Nazi,” but the little wannabe white knight spins it as “Fascist” so that he can claim victimhood. Others are trying in vain in to point out to him that Spider-man Noir is from the 1940s and thus he’s talking about punching literal Nazis, yet the ignorant fellow is still banging on that “Nazi = Fascist” and “Fascist = White” so this was a deliberately anti-white move on the part of the writers.

Yes, folks, the people who insist they’re not Nazis are getting upset at the punching of actual Nazis.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 14, 2023 • 1:19:37am

The Cat and the Mouse:

O Gato e o Rato • Villa-Lobos • Chenxing Huang



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No Malarkey!  Jun 14, 2023 • 1:26:04am

re: #15 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

A perfectly obscure Green Party candidate who should not draw anywhere near enough votes to endanger President Biden’s reelection.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 14, 2023 • 1:37:15am

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Life and Loss




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No Malarkey!  Jun 14, 2023 • 1:44:06am

re: #69 Belafon

I suggested Michigan to my wife as a possible move destination and she told me she wouldn’t be able to handle the winters.

Ideally, one could afford a summer home and a winter home, or a home in a place where the weather is pleasant year round, like Hawaii.

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Targetpractice  Jun 14, 2023 • 1:44:34am

re: #125 No Malarkey!

A perfectly obscure Green Party candidate who should not draw anywhere near enough votes to endanger President Biden’s reelection.

Meanwhile, over in the “We’re totally not a stealth campaign to get a Republican elected” camp:

CHICAGO — The centrist political organization No Labels has defended its third-party presidential bid by insisting there’s a broad voter appetite for a candidate running in the political middle.

But the group said it would likely exit the race entirely if Donald Trump doesn’t win the GOP nomination — even as more conservative candidates such as Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis run to Trump’s right.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 14, 2023 • 1:47:47am

re: #80 darthstar

So at the KQED taste & sip event last night, some guy asked me if I was from Orange is the New Black. I said, “Are you saying I look like a criminal?” - and he said “Not the prisoners, the guard…” so I had to go look it up as I never watched the show.

Here’s me and my mom on Mother’s day.

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Orange is the New Black is a good show, I highly recommend watching it. And there is a superficial resemblance. If he was a big enough celebrity for people to care, you could get celebrity look-a-like gigs.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 14, 2023 • 1:57:26am

re: #116 Captain Ron

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No Malarkey!  Jun 14, 2023 • 2:06:16am
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Targetpractice  Jun 14, 2023 • 2:07:33am

*sigh*

And just now was a perfect example of why I bang on so much about calling the hotel before you book. Group of three folks who apparently drove from AL to FL and then to here just popped in to check in immediately…when the hotel sold out last night. They booked two rooms without calling or stopping in first to check if we had rooms, just assumed that if they could book the room then that must mean it was ready for immediate check-in. So begins the sob story about them being on the road so long and how they’re all so tired and how now they’re going to have to sleep in the car until 3pm…as if I’m being a mean asshole by not having two rooms ready for them at this hour.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 14, 2023 • 2:10:47am

re: #132 Targetpractice

*sigh*

And just now was a perfect example of why I bang on so much about calling the hotel before you book. Group of three folks who apparently drove from AL to FL and then to here just popped in to check in immediately…when the hotel sold out last night. They booked two rooms without calling or stopping in first to check if we had rooms, just assumed that if they could book the room then that must mean it was ready for immediate check-in. So begins the sob story about them being on the road so long and how they’re all so tired and how now they’re going to have to sleep in the car until 3pm…as if I’m being a mean asshole by not having two rooms ready for them at this hour.

It is mean of you not to let them into the vacant, clean rooms you have in the hotel on Earth2.

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William Lewis  Jun 14, 2023 • 2:12:03am

re: #133 No Malarkey!

It is mean of you not to let them into the vacant, clean rooms you have in the hotel on Earth2.

And the close the portal back here just as the zombie hordes break through the front door… ;)

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Targetpractice  Jun 14, 2023 • 2:12:59am

re: #133 No Malarkey!

It is mean of you not to let them into the vacant, clean rooms you have in the hotel on Earth2.

I know, right? I suppose I could give them the mold-infested room that’s been out-of-order for months if they sign a waiver saying they’re cool with dying. Might even knock off a few bucks as a favor.

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Targetpractice  Jun 14, 2023 • 2:18:55am

re: #131 No Malarkey!

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It’s honestly like watching videos of the Branch Dildonians* when they squatted at the bird sanctuary years ago, where most of the “patriots” are lardballs or old men who would struggle to lug a full rucksack and their “tacticool” weapon of choice for a 10 mile hike without collapsing into a puddle of sweat or needing immediate cardiac assistance.

No wonder more and more of their civil war fantasies involve the Armed Forces joining them to take down the “tyrannical” government.

*h/t Fark

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ericblair  Jun 14, 2023 • 2:20:01am

Techbros have really been showing their asses in the last couple of years. Assume they are complete fucking idiots about anything outside their narrow expertise and give them 50/50 that they’re idiots about anything in their own narrow expertise and just lucked out.

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Targetpractice  Jun 14, 2023 • 2:22:44am

re: #137 ericblair

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Techbros have really been showing their asses in the last couple of years. Assume they are complete fucking idiots about anything outside their narrow expertise and give them 50/50 that they’re idiots about anything in their own narrow expertise and just lucked out.

Isn’t it just simply amazing how so many predictions of imminent economic doom started up within a year of Trump being voted out of office?

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ericblair  Jun 14, 2023 • 2:25:17am

re: #138 Targetpractice

Isn’t it just simply amazing how so many predictions of imminent economic doom started up within a year of Trump being voted out of office?

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They want the next recession so, so bad. Too bad all they got are blue balls.

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2023 • 2:25:59am
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Teukka  Jun 14, 2023 • 2:28:32am
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William Lewis  Jun 14, 2023 • 2:30:29am

re: #140 Teukka

Synopsis?

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TarHellion  Jun 14, 2023 • 2:31:26am

Holed out the lob wedge from 80 yards away for the lucky birbie.

Click to Reveal

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Targetpractice  Jun 14, 2023 • 2:34:29am

re: #139 ericblair

They want the next recession so, so bad. Too bad all they got are blue balls.

Wall St wants a recession to restore the pre-COVID status quo by returning tens to hundreds of thousands of workers to labor insecurity as a means of leverage against wage growth.

Conservatives want a recession because negative economic events tend to cancel out voter opposition to their culture war BS.

Tech bros want another recession because it’s easier to con the marks into buying crypto when it looks like government-backed currencies are in danger of collapse.

And the Beltway wants a recession because all of the above gives them hours of ad space to sell.

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Axolotl  Jun 14, 2023 • 2:37:59am

re: #132 Targetpractice

*sigh*

And just now was a perfect example of why I bang on so much about calling the hotel before you book. Group of three folks who apparently drove from AL to FL and then to here just popped in to check in immediately…when the hotel sold out last night. They booked two rooms without calling or stopping in first to check if we had rooms, just assumed that if they could book the room then that must mean it was ready for immediate check-in. So begins the sob story about them being on the road so long and how they’re all so tired and how now they’re going to have to sleep in the car until 3pm…as if I’m being a mean asshole by not having two rooms ready for them at this hour.

How can you book a room if there are no rooms available?

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2023 • 2:41:09am

re: #142 William Lewis

Synopsis?

Long story short, alt-right and alt-media in Sweden are co-operating making unjustified calls to social services about problems in the families of ideological opponents, apart from suing them in court for alleged slander.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 14, 2023 • 2:53:52am

Me and MrsD

14 years today

Sealed with a kiss at 12 noon on 6/14/09

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2023 • 2:55:58am
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Targetpractice  Jun 14, 2023 • 3:04:19am

re: #145 Axolotl

How can you book a room if there are no rooms available?

Most OTAs (Online Travel Agencies) roll over their inventory at midnight, so any reservations made online after midnight are generally for check-in at the normal check-in time at the hotel you’re booking. In an era of smartphones where a lot of apps like to hide things like “check-in time” and auto-default to the current date as indicated in the OTA’s database, too many people in desperate need for a room immediately interpret online availability as indicative of the hotel’s actual status and book impulsively only to show up and get upset because “It shows availability online!!!”

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 14, 2023 • 3:15:25am

re: #148 Teukka

ALL REAL WIMMINZ HAZ DOUBLE-D KNOCKERS, CHECKMATE LIBTARDS!!

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Axolotl  Jun 14, 2023 • 3:20:04am

re: #149 Targetpractice

Most OTAs (Online Travel Agencies) roll over their inventory at midnight, so any reservations made online after midnight are generally for check-in at the normal check-in time at the hotel you’re booking. In an era of smartphones where a lot of apps like to hide things like “check-in time” and auto-default to the current date

So they basically booked the following night.

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William Lewis  Jun 14, 2023 • 3:24:38am

Oh fun. So had two no shows at audit. Charged their CC’s per our SOP.

They just showed up. They called the 2nd shift guy and said they’d be late. He didn’t tell me…

Reinstated, reversed the billing on the inhouse system, found out I can’t reverse the CC, presumably the AGM will have to do that. But at least they’re in rooms and sleeping.

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Targetpractice  Jun 14, 2023 • 3:27:19am

re: #151 Axolotl

So they basically booked the following night.

Right. In their minds, even though it was 5am local time, they assumed that it was still Tuesday night and thus they were making reservations for Tuesday night when both the OTA and our system had already rolled over to Wednesday.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:06:13am

npr radio headline

“Former president Trump pleaded not guilty in federal criminal court…”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:08:57am

re: #130 No Malarkey!

A town square isn’t privately owned.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:10:02am

Place your bets: If this is true, who do you think it is?

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:11:27am

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

ALL REAL WIMMINZ HAZ DOUBLE-D KNOCKERS, CHECKMATE LIBTARDS!!

not in my world thank goodness

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:12:17am

Today’s word… (Result was a par, spoiler in the, well, spoiler tag)

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Very apropos, considering the circumstances.

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William Lewis  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:12:21am

Now this is different.

Fast Car

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:12:54am

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Place your bets: If this is true, who do you think it is?

If it’s a member of the family, it’s Melania. The text message conversation with Nauta about the boxes was 100% Melania.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:13:17am

Today is a good day to fly your American flag if you have one.

It is Donald Trump’s birthday and he’s under arrest. It is also Flag Day. Together those seem like good reasons to me.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:13:47am
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Nerdy Fish  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:13:51am

re: #161 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Today is a good day to fly your American flag if you have one.

It is Donald Trump’s birthday and he’s under arrest. It is also Flag Day. Together those seem like good reasons to me.

He’s not under arrest anymore, is he? I assumed he’d bonded out, if he wasn’t released on his own recognizance.

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Nojay UK  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:14:17am

re: #149 Targetpractice

You ought to apply to work for the Hilbert hotel chain. They always have spare rooms even when they’re all full.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:14:32am

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Place your bets: If this is true, who do you think it is?

Jared Kushner.

He’s got about two billion reasons to have been in on this.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:15:32am

re: #137 ericblair

Techbros have really been showing their asses in the last couple of years. Assume they are complete fucking idiots about anything outside their narrow expertise and give them 50/50 that they’re idiots about anything in their own narrow expertise and just lucked out.

Libertarians have been predicting “hyperinflation is just around the corner” ever since there’s been Libertarians. They’re the political version of religious “end of the world” doomsayers.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:17:56am

re: #148 Teukka

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:18:32am

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VOCES8: The Saddest Noise from ‘The Lost Birds’ by Christopher Tin


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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:21:26am

Fly like an eagle! 🏌

anhFb0J1ZFRsQUdMUzJ2Y2ZyUGRYcmtuZiszcEVkMzRjVEV2SjZaTXQwMnZZRVlFd3c2YWl5TUZhTGlXeWh1TWVOVlRab0FRbjdiU3cvRTBoYWx5MDdieXhHUzhheGV3eFI5a0ZlYXJiKzQ9OjqgcbcYg4eEKjQDigP0qJZv

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steve_davis  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:22:30am

re: #107 Hecuba’s daughter

I just started my first sci-fi novel in ages — one recommended by an employee at Barnes & Noble yesterday — The Space Between Worlds. I wanted a parallel worlds novel and this is the one he suggested. But will try Shockwave Rider next.

Covid news…

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Well, I had one of my experiences at the Salvation Army where someone had unloaded a ton of old Timescape Science Fiction Book Club stuff, so that’s now forced me to break out my last portable book case, until I can recycle some stuff into the new/used book store now in Pendleton. First time I’d been in the shop was last week, and I had to tell the owner how impressed I was by the perfectly electic range of offerings. No Harlequin Romance section, for instance, but just really interesting musical biography, for instance. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s an unexpurgated Necronomicon with the unholy and ultra-rare marginal notes by Abdul Alhazred (“when it says boil your victim with 2 lbs of fat from an oxen, try using sunflower oil instead,” “from personal experience, never call Cthulhu collect,” etc., etc.)

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:27:29am

OK back later. Off to work (again).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:28:41am

re: #163 Nerdy Fish

He’s not under arrest anymore, is he? I assumed he’d bonded out, if he wasn’t released on his own recognizance.

The definition is “A seizure or forcible restraint; an exercise of the power to deprive a person of his or her liberty; the taking or keeping of a person in custody by legal authority, especially, in response to a criminal charge.”

legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com

It is normally applied when the police charge you (whether or not you go to jail).

My understanding is Mr. Trump did not pay a bond and was released “under his own recognizance” since he is not a flight risk (he’s surrounded by dozens of federal agents 24/7).

I suppose I could more accurately say “he’s under indictment.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:30:40am

re: #160 Nerdy Fish

If it’s a member of the family, it’s Melania. The text message conversation with Nauta about the boxes was 100% Melania.

I’m still holding out for the dark horse Tiffany.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:31:49am

re: #162 DodgerFan1988

FOX engaging in a little light stochastic terrorism again.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:31:57am

re: #173 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m still holding out for the dark horse Tiffany.

The problem is, it could also be some random schmuck, heretofore unknown, who was helping Trump do his shell game with the boxes. “Trump Employee 1” and “Trump Employee 2” come to mind.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:33:12am

re: #107 Hecuba’s daughter

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No Malarkey!  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:39:31am

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Place your bets: If this is true, who do you think it is?

That tweet was dated June 8; wasn’t Walt Nauta the second person indicted?

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:40:42am

re: #177 No Malarkey!

That tweet was dated June 8; wasn’t Walt Nauta the second person indicted?

Oh, yeah, that would be true, good catch. I didn’t even see that.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:45:42am

re: #170 steve_davis

Dance of the Damned

.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:56:23am

re: #177 No Malarkey!

That tweet was dated June 8; wasn’t Walt Nauta the second person indicted?

Now that you mention it …

He wasn’t charged with substantially similar crimes though.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 14, 2023 • 4:57:45am

re: #161 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Today is a good day to fly your American flag if you have one.

It is Donald Trump’s birthday and he’s under arrest. It is also Flag Day. Together those seem like good reasons to me.

if that’s not enough, it’s mrsdm’s and my 14th wedding anniversary.
that should push it over the top

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:01:11am

re: #180 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Now that you mention it …

He wasn’t charged with substantially similar crimes though.

He was. He was charged with all of the obstruction and other “lesser” charges. He wasn’t charged with any of the Espionage Act stuff, which is the lion’s share of the counts, but there was only one count added for which he was charged that Trump was not also charged with.

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Thanos  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:05:30am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Libertarians have been predicting “hyperinflation is just around the corner” ever since there’s been Libertarians. They’re the political version of religious “end of the world” doomsayers.

It really started back in the early ‘70’s with Ur-Conservative grifter Howard Ruff.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:06:32am

re: #181 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

if that’s not enough, it’s mrsdm’s and my 14th wedding anniversary.
that should push it over the top

Congradumalashuns! I’ll add that to my list of reasons to raise the flag this morning.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:08:10am

re: #184 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Congradumalashuns! I’ll add that to my list of reasons to raise the flag this morning.

You all have raised some great points. It’s sunrise here in the wild north country, and to celebrate all of the above, the flag is going to fly from my front step once again.

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Mike Lamb  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:09:27am

re: #5 ckkatz

I wonder if the bully chose his victim because the attacked girl had two moms.
(From the article.)

I am also glad to hear that the school district is working to ban the bully -

Finally - I do wonder if the guy is doing steroids.

Zero question he is a juice monkey.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:11:49am

Brrr, it’s 40°F/5°C this morning.

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:13:05am

re: #55 teleskiguy

Michigan is a vivid display of the urban/rural divide these days.

It’s also a question of population density, not just where people live. Most of the rural areas are sparsely populated. It’s the same way GOPers claim that the nation is red, by showing maps that don’t account for where people actually live. Wyoming is a red blob, but fewer people live there than in Brooklyn NY. In fact, more people live in Brooklyn NY (which is just one part of NYC) than in all of Wyoming, South Dakota, and North Dakota. But Brooklyn has to share Congressional representation in the Senate with the rest of the state, while WY, SD, and ND have 6 Senators (which also again highlights the problems with the EC and the failure to expand Congress in the past 90+ years).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:15:58am
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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:16:14am

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Walt Nauta was indicted along with Trump. His arraignment was delayed to June 29 as he needed time to find local counsel.

Trump also has a problem finding local counsel willing to represent the tangerine toddler.

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:23:41am

Trump’s fundraising on the possibility that he might die in prison.

Boo fucking hoo. Don’t do the crime if you aren’t willing to do the time. We know other nations have had corrupt and criminal leaders and they were more than willing to arrest and prosecute them while they were in office. We’ve seen former government officials prosecuted and sentenced after leaving office. Heck, we have state officials prosecuted while in office.

Trump should have been prosecuted while in office but for a ridiculous DOJ policy statement from the Nixon era. He engaged in a crime spree while in office and everyone knows it because Trump openly boasts about being able to beat the system. That’s why the GOP base loves him - he revels in the ability to thumb authority all while the GOP wants unlimited power to prosecute and imprison their political enemies and impose their religious beliefs on everyone else.

Trump knows he has no right to possess classified documents after leaving the WH and spent considerable effort to shield those documents from investigators, DOJ, FBI, and even his own lawyers. Smith’s case is strong and even former AG Barr who ran interference for Trump on the Mueller report knows Trump is absolutely toast on the Smith charges.

So, Trump is trying to raise money for his legal defense from the rubes. Meanwhile, other GOPers are also fundraising off the indictment as a chance to improve their own outlook. Yet, few within the GOP are willing to repudiate Trump fully and completely because they are beholden to the Trump base and need Trump voters if they want to get reelected.

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jeffreyw  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:31:26am

Chicken Gumbo

Good morning!

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:33:08am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Libertarians have been predicting “hyperinflation is just around the corner” ever since there’s been Libertarians. They’re the political version of religious “end of the world” doomsayers.

Also, Social Security was supposed to collapse and fall in on itself 40 years ago at this point. Don’t forget the eternal doom of SS according to Libertarians.

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Targetpractice  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:34:10am

re: #191 lawhawk

Trump’s fundraising on the possibility that he might die in prison.

How much do I have to donate to make it a certainty?

//

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:34:40am
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Dave In Austin  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:36:55am

re: #195 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m driving from Austin to Phx for a funeral on Monday. Should be awesome. Not taking I-10

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Dave In Austin  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:37:48am

Double Douche alert!

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Nojay UK  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:38:17am

re: #196 Dave In Austin

I’m driving from Austin to Phx for a funeral on Monday. Should be awesome. Not taking I-10

You might want to rephrase that. Uhhh, unless you actually… no. Ummm…

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:39:05am

re: #198 Nojay UK

You might want to rephrase that. Uhhh, unless you actually… no. Ummm…

Depends on whose funeral we’re talking.///

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:40:13am

GMA Chyron: press secretary found to have violated the Hatch Act by using the term “MAGA Republican”.

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Targetpractice  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:42:53am

re: #197 Dave In Austin

Double Douche alert!

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Well gee, Elmo, I’m sure the accusations that you’re a racist bastard who also has been trying to snuff out efforts by your employees to unionize has absolutely nothing to do with it…

///////

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Dave In Austin  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:42:56am

re: #198 Nojay UK

He’d understand. Plus he’s dead, rest his soul.
This guy was my AA Sponsor for 30 yrs. So there is nothing lost between us.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:45:36am

re: #117 Captain Ron

One of the players in my Arma unit is a maintainer on B1-Bs operating out of Dyess AFB (near Abilene). He posts video of them taking off every so often.

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gocart mozart  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:46:22am
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Eventual Carrion  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:50:14am

re: #107 Hecuba’s daughter

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Amazing, 2/6 for me also. Was quite surprised when they all came up green on second guess.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:50:55am

re: #145 Axolotl

How can you book a room if there are no rooms available?

Real easy on various sites that broker rooms. Their data on what is available compared to the hotel’s own system takes time to catch up.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:52:23am

re: #204 gocart mozart

Its fortunate for Trump that he won’t need competent representation with Judge Cannon presiding. Unfortunately for him, the same won’t be true in Manhattan, D.C. or Atlanta.

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BlueSpotinAL ✅  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:53:33am

re: #164 Nojay UK

You ought to apply to work for the Hilbert hotel chain. They always have spare rooms even when they’re all full.

I would rather rent a Banach space. To book a Hilbert Hotel requires an infinite number of Hilbert Honors points.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:56:07am

How a Reagan-era regulation change transformed the semi-truck market in the USA.

(5:31)

THIS Is Why America Stopped Making Cab-over Trucks

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 14, 2023 • 5:56:18am

re: #207 No Malarkey!

Its fortunate for Trump that he won’t need competent representation with Judge Cannon presiding. Unfortunately for him, the same won’t be true in Manhattan, D.C. or Atlanta.

We still don’t know what Loose Cannon is going to do here, either. While I’m not exactly optimistic, given the way the affair of the special master played out, I will say that 1) she completely vacated the whole thing when the 11th Circuit smacked her down, which was a bit above and beyond, and 2) the actual criminal trial is going to be much higher profile than simply stalling for time by making the documents go through a special master process first. While the affair of the special master has tarnished her reputation a bit, deliberately tanking the criminal trial of the century would end her.

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🔧-wench  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:09:23am

re: #205 Eventual Carrion

Amazing, 2/6 for me also. Was quite surprised when they all came up green on second guess.

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Twice as many is not twice as good.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:10:08am

re: #211 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The wind.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:10:24am

re: #197 Dave In Austin

Double Douche alert!

Eagerly looking forward to wingnuts boycotting Smith & Wesson, which has an ESG rating of 19.0

sustainalytics.com

It’s almost as if that rating has nothing to do with the product the company manufactures (cigarettes, firearms), and more about how they treat their employees.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:21:04am

re: #214 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It’s almost as if that rating has nothing to do with the product the company manufactures (cigarettes, firearms), and more about how they treat their employees.

Which is also why Elon is so vehemently opposed to ESG, because employees are slaves to be abused and exploited.

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:21:20am
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No Malarkey!  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:25:01am

re: #210 Nerdy Fish

We still don’t know what Loose Cannon is going to do here, either. While I’m not exactly optimistic, given the way the affair of the special master played out, I will say that 1) she completely vacated the whole thing when the 11th Circuit smacked her down, which was a bit above and beyond, and 2) the actual criminal trial is going to be much higher profile than simply stalling for time by making the documents go through a special master process first. While the affair of the special master has tarnished her reputation a bit, deliberately tanking the criminal trial of the century would end her.

I wish that were true, however she has a lifetime appointment and she would be lionized by MAGA for acquitting Trump. Any process that requires good faith on the part of MAGA is unlikely to succeed.

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William Lewis  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:25:39am

re: #214 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Eagerly looking forward to wingnuts boycotting Smith & Wesson, which has an ESG rating of 19.0

sustainalytics.com

It’s almost as if that rating has nothing to do with the product the company manufactures (cigarettes, firearms), and more about how they treat their employees.

They still hate them for the safety locks on many of their firearms. They are the least problematical major American gun maker, though it remains to be seen if CZ will reform Colt or not.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:27:21am

re: #217 No Malarkey!

I wish that were true, however she has a lifetime appointment and she would be lionized by MAGA for acquitting Trump. Any process that requires good faith on the part of MAGA is unlikely to succeed.

I said I wasn’t exactly optimistic. I have every expectation that she will do everything she can to tank the case, until and unless the 11th Circuit decides to replace her - which would require extremely egregious conduct.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:29:17am

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

ALL REAL WIMMINZ HAZ DOUBLE-D KNOCKERS, CHECKMATE LIBTARDS!!

Except for the trans women that got large implants. /sarc

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:37:31am

The CEO of Reddit has doubled down on the stupidity, saying the blackout “will pass” and also warning Reddit employees not to wear company gear in public, for fear of retaliation. It’s incredibly tone-deaf, so, on brand for a major tech CEO.

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William Lewis  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:40:09am

re: #221 Nerdy Fish

The CEO of Reddit has doubled down on the stupidity, saying the blackout “will pass” and also warning Reddit employees not to wear company gear in public, for fear of retaliation. It’s incredibly tone-deaf, so, on brand for a major tech CEO.

Tumblr anyone?

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Dave In Austin  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:41:21am
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:42:45am

re: #216 lawhawk

Trump’s great power is convincing poor white Americans that he’s being targeted and persecuted. That any crime he committed is not a crime even though he’s being investigated or prosecuted for it.

That means everyone else could be investigated and persecuted for things they did that they believe werent crimes.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:44:30am

Mastodon

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:45:00am

re: #223 Dave In Austin

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You’d almost think this was that “farce news” Twitter feed

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:45:02am

Reminder: DOJ is treating Trump with kid gloves on the indicted charges.

This goes to what I said about freedom of movement and his ability to retain his passport. DOJ had every right to keep Trump from leaving the country. They want to keep tabs on him, unless the DOJ is allowing this to see who else Trump is interacting with (trying to gain profit from those classified docs he retained(s)).

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:45:35am

re: #215 Nerdy Fish

Which is also why Elon is so vehemently opposed to ESG, because employees are slaves to be abused and exploited.

Looking forward to what life is actually like in that upcoming upside-down dystopia Elon Town being built in Austin. A functioning energy shield dome seems like still a long way off even for Elon.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:46:46am

Utah Republicans are furious schools banned the Bible to comply with their book-banning law

And now those same folks who banned the Bible are going after the Book of Moron, er Mormon.

Idiots didn’t game out the potential ramifications of their asinine law.

open.substack.com

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:47:28am

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:49:05am

re: #230 Joe Bacon ✅

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“Look, buddy, I was crucified between two criminals. I know one when I see one.”

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:49:24am

One more two spot for today.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:55:30am

re: #148 Teukka

Wow! Conservatives have truly gone over the bend. I’m so glad to live in a blue state. We have our right wingers but they are vastly outnumbered. Plus, I live in a minority majority county. I feel sorry for any liberals/progressives in red states. They’re surrounded by deranged people.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:56:22am
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Dave In Austin  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:57:20am
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Dave In Austin  Jun 14, 2023 • 6:59:04am
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Nerdy Fish  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:00:07am

re: #236 Dave In Austin

Shouldn’t the middle one read “71 counts”?

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:01:50am
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Nerdy Fish  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:01:57am

The Upper Midwest is once again suffering from the orange haze from the north, as Canada continues to burn. This weekend, we are supposed to be going up north to visit fishfolk at their summer retreat in the north country; it will be interesting to see if the air quality is significantly worse.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:05:15am

re: #227 lawhawk

Reminder: DOJ is treating Trump with kid gloves on the indicted charges.

This goes to what I said about freedom of movement and his ability to retain his passport. DOJ had every right to keep Trump from leaving the country. They want to keep tabs on him, unless the DOJ is allowing this to see who else Trump is interacting with (trying to gain profit from those classified docs he retained(s)).

I do wish that the DOJ (or another jurisdiction that indicts him) will simply take the gloves off, call the bluff, and lance this damn boil that allows him to continue scoffing at things. Mug shot him, lock him up (at least overnight), and seriously inconvenience his post-courtroom visit fund raiser. Give him a taste of what a prison term will involve - no phone, standard meal, no lickspittles on call.

And it will also tell the MAGA crowd and media to put up or shut up. Which might well trigger violence - but if that was going to happen anyways when he gets jailed than I’d like to have this in the open before the election. Or it might show that the MAGA crowd are another paper tiger that simply slinks back into the woodwork. Which might then embolden the media and other politicians from treating them as more than a vocal minority throwing tantrums.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:06:18am

re: #229 Joe Bacon ✅

Utah Republicans are furious schools banned the Bible to comply with their book-banning law

And now those same folks who banned the Bible are going after the Book of Moron, er Mormon.

Idiots didn’t game out the potential ramifications of their asinine law.

open.substack.com

Sounds similar to the Louisiana law they passed for religious schools to get state funding. And then a Muslim one applied for money too. Oh no! That’s not how it was supposed to work!

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:11:37am

re: #238 Backwoods Sleuth

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Once again the Screw York Times proves their real motto is “All The Propaganda The GOP Tells Us To Print”.

Never will forgive those stenographers for allowing Judith Miller to spread her lies that got us into a war.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:15:42am

re: #220 Belafon

Except for the trans women that got large implants. /sarc

The Australia Sex Party (now merged into the Reason Party) took on the government when a bill was passed in 2015 prohibiting the appearance of women who could be confused as children in movies, video games, magazines, anime, and adverts, as a misguided attempt to combat enabling “paedophilia.”

This had the effect of banning women with small breasts from such media.

The country created a review board called The Classification Board. If that board hands down a “no classification” rating, the media in question cannot be sold in Australia.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:17:57am

re: #158 Nerdy Fish

Today’s word… (Result was a par, spoiler in the, well, spoiler tag)

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Birbie for me. As to spoiler, indeed.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:18:27am

Your Pre$$titute$ at work for the GOP

Right-Wing Media Melts Down Over Biden’s Root Canal

crooksandliars.com

#BreakingNews!!! You heard it here first. President Joe Biden had to get a root canal, which never happens to anyone. The right-wing media, Fox News, the Daily Caller, etc., are having a freakout moment.

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ericblair  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:21:06am

Not surprising when you consider the information gatekeepers in most countries. They are on top of the hierarchy and want to stay there, so feed everybody a steady diet of conservative bullshit, including the politicians who should know better.

If you’re a politician, being completely deluded about your electorate is going to catch up with you, hopefully sooner than later.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:23:31am

GAAAaaa!!!

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sagehen  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:29:01am

re: #235 Dave In Austin

I’m guessing the people who haven’t been arrested yet are starting to think they won’t be.

Somebody needed to remind them, the wheels of justice grind slowly, but oh so fine.

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BeachDem  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:32:16am

re: #238 Backwoods Sleuth

WaPo headline:

Trump greets arraignment with showmanship in bid to upstage charges

What is wrong with these people?

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No Malarkey!  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:34:20am

re: #247 Dave In Austin

GAAAaaa!!!

Third party voting collapsed in 2020 compared to 2016, even as about 20 million more people voted. I would be very surprised if West can come anywhere near to matching Jill Stein’s 2016 numbers.

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mmmirele  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:36:23am

Today is the 80th anniversary of the Supreme Court decision in West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette in 1943. This was an unpopular decision at the height of war, because it said, basically that Jehovah’s Witnesses children could not be forced to pledge the flag. This decision came three years after Minersville School District v Gobitis, which said that school districts could force children to pledge the flag. Gobitis led to harassment and lynching of Jehovah’s Witnesses around the USA.

Barnette overturned Gobitis and the decision was made on a different basis than Gobitis. I’m not going to go into details because I have a headache. Barnette stands for two things, though. First, there is this statement from the majority opinion, written by Jackson, J.:

If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein.

Back in the day, I thought I might get that tattooed on me somewhere. But since I’m a diabetic now, that’s kind of out. Plus I’m extraordinarily cynical about our national ideals these days, in large part due to the Mango Menace.

Second, the makeup of the Court does matter. It’s unlikely this decision would have been reached had it not been for the appointment of Wiley Rutledge to the court earlier that year.

Here’s the Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:36:27am

re: #250 No Malarkey!

Third party voting collapsed in 2020 compared to 2016, even as about 20 million more people voted. I would be very surprised if West can come anywhere near to matching Jill Stein’s 2016 numbers.

There has been a very good effort on the part of both parties to make voters realize why voting for third parties, in the current political climate, is really fucking stupid.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:38:04am

re: #250 No Malarkey!

Third party voting collapsed in 2020 compared to 2016, even as about 20 million more people voted. I would be very surprised if West can come anywhere near to matching Jill Stein’s 2016 numbers.

Don’t underestimate that clown. Putin will pull out all the stops for him along with the Republican Party.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:39:40am

re: #246 ericblair

I can’t speak about other states, but in my own, polling consistently shows for example that men and women of all age groups think abortion should be legal in all or most circumstances.

Yet we have a legislature which thinks the opposite (which is why the Christmas tree anti-trans/anti-abortion bill was passed, then enjoined in state court).

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:41:49am

re: #252 Nerdy Fish

There has been a very good effort on the part of both parties to make voters realize why voting for third parties, in the current political climate, is really fucking stupid.

Though that doesn’t stop GOP operatives from creating various 3rd party “options” with the idea they might siphon off Democrat voters.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:43:20am

re: #245 Joe Bacon ✅

Your Pre$$titute$ at work for the GOP

Right-Wing Media Melts Down Over Biden’s Root Canal

crooksandliars.com

#BreakingNews!!! You heard it here first. President Joe Biden had to get a root canal, which never happens to anyone. The right-wing media, Fox News, the Daily Caller, etc., are having a freakout moment.

When your party is asking questions like “does a root canal mean a candidate is too fragile to run for office,” you’re losing.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:44:12am

re: #245 Joe Bacon ✅

Your Pre$$titute$ at work for the GOP

Right-Wing Media Melts Down Over Biden’s Root Canal

crooksandliars.com

#BreakingNews!!! You heard it here first. President Joe Biden had to get a root canal, which never happens to anyone. The right-wing media, Fox News, the Daily Caller, etc., are having a freakout moment.

These people are insane.

Root Canals Are Popular
Well, over 15 million root canals are performed each year, meaning around 41,000 are performed every single day.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:44:19am

re: #254 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I can’t speak about other states, but in my own, polling consistently shows for example that men and women of all age groups think abortion should be legal in all or most circumstances.

Yet we have a legislature which thinks the opposite (which is why the Christmas tree anti-trans/anti-abortion bill was passed, then enjoined in state court).

I guess my question is whether this is performative for their own spiritual benefit*, they are being told to support this by political patrons, or they are living in an echo chamber that implies the majority supports this sort of thing.

* - I won’t go into this in any depth. But I have questions about a personality that seems to feel that punishing others leads to salvation and God’s approval. Unless you’re delving into the murderous Old Testament one that smites and butchers.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:45:21am

re: #256 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

When your party is asking questions like “does a root canal mean a candidate is too fragile to run for office,” you’re losing.

Anything to avoid seriously discussing what and who their party is actually supporting.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:47:36am

Just remember folks that FAUX keeps insisting that Joe is senile.

BUT IN REALITY…

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darthstar  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:48:15am

Eagle this morning on the wordle.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:48:17am

Biden is over 80. When you age, your teeth get worn down just like the rest of you.

I had a root canal recently. I was back at work several hours later (in a bit of pain mind you, but I was still able to fulfil my duties).

This whole controversy is fucking stupid.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:48:25am

re: #250 No Malarkey!

Third party voting collapsed in 2020 compared to 2016, even as about 20 million more people voted. I would be very surprised if West can come anywhere near to matching Jill Stein’s 2016 numbers.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA … gasp … BWAHAHAHAHA … wheeze aaahahahahaha

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:49:10am

Yet more roses.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:49:59am

re: #258 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I guess my question is whether this is performative for their own spiritual benefit*, they are being told to support this by political patrons, or they are living in an echo chamber that implies the majority supports this sort of thing.

* - I won’t go into this in any depth. But I have questions about a personality that seems to feel that punishing others leads to salvation and God’s approval. Unless you’re delving into the murderous Old Testament one that smites and butchers.

I get the impression from polling about such topics that when you can give your opinion without the judgement of friends, family, church, or political allies around, you get to say how you really feel. And how they really feel is this conservaderp is not what they want. It’s almost like they perform as they are expected to in public (hence my name “parrots”)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:51:28am

re: #263 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Fixed, left out the tweet that brought on that gale of laughter.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:53:40am

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Fixed, left out the tweet that brought on that gale of laughter.

Just as “robust and detailed” as the Republican party platform, which, as far as I’ve been able to determine, consists of, “Fuck everybody who isn’t a rich white Christian biological male.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:54:16am

re: #122 Teukka

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Further in the thread:

Maybe I’m wrong, but anyone who classifies themselves as center-right and makes some disparaging remark about the “libs” is actually a Nazi

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:56:30am

re: #268 Hecuba’s daughter

Racial Harmony 20 years ago?

2003? When Muslims and Arabs were maligned and vilified as terrorists following 9/11?

THAT was “racial harmony”????

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William Lewis  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:56:35am

Current Mood:

Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit - Cumberland Gap

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:56:44am

re: #123 Targetpractice

The subtitles say “Nazi,” but the little wannabe white knight spins it as “Fascist” so that he can claim victimhood. Others are trying in vain in to point out to him that Spider-man Noir is from the 1940s and thus he’s talking about punching literal Nazis, yet the ignorant fellow is still banging on that “Nazi = Fascist” and “Fascist = White” so this was a deliberately anti-white move on the part of the writers.

Yes, folks, the people who insist they’re not Nazis are getting upset at the punching of actual Nazis.

Just like those who talk about Democrats being the party of racism and the KKK are the ones who are upset about taking down statues of Confederates and renaming military bases!

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 14, 2023 • 7:58:03am

re: #170 steve_davis

Well, I had one of my experiences at the Salvation Army where someone had unloaded a ton of old Timescape Science Fiction Book Club stuff, so that’s now forced me to break out my last portable book case, until I can recycle some stuff into the new/used book store now in Pendleton. First time I’d been in the shop was last week, and I had to tell the owner how impressed I was by the perfectly electic range of offerings. No Harlequin Romance section, for instance, but just really interesting musical biography, for instance. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s an unexpurgated Necronomicon with the unholy and ultra-rare marginal notes by Abdul Alhazred (“when it says boil your victim with 2 lbs of fat from an oxen, try using sunflower oil instead,” “from personal experience, never call Cthulhu collect,” etc., etc.)

OK, good advice - I now know not to do this:

“from personal experience, never call Cthulhu collect”

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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:02:14am
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Nerdy Fish  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:02:18am

re: #268 Hecuba’s daughter

From the dumbass:

i see no lies, everyone should be a majority in their own countries.

How about: NO. The greatest thing about America, the one thing that made it truly “great” and separated it from all the other countries on earth, was specifically that we encouraged immigration, that we had no racial hangups about what makes us “American.” Anyone can be an American, if they embody American ideals. White people, what guys like this asshat consider “American,” don’t have to be a majority here, because Americans can be anybody.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:04:31am

re: #251 mmmirele

I deal with the nationalists by quoting Rabindranath Tagore.

I am willing to serve my country, but my worship I reserve for Right which is far greater than my country. To worship my country as a god is to bring a curse upon it.

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William Lewis  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:10:09am

re: #275 Romantic Heretic

I deal with the nationalists by quoting Rabindranath Tagore.

This socialist, like all members of the armed forces of the United States, took an oath to the Constitution of the United States, not to the United States. There is a subtle difference there that the fascists don’t seem to understand.

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:12:51am

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Place your bets: If this is true, who do you think it is?

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Since that is from June 8, the second person is Walt Nauta.

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Jay C  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:20:06am

re: #246 ericblair

Not surprising when you consider the information gatekeepers in most countries. They are on top of the hierarchy and want to stay there, so feed everybody a steady diet of conservative bullshit, including the politicians who should know better.

If you’re a politician, being completely deluded about your electorate is going to catch up with you, hopefully sooner than later.

Well, not be too much of a downer, but while you are certainly right about the first bit, the “catching up” part seems to have been definitely shifted to the “later” category, at least in the US. Hopefully not permanently…

The problem isn’t so much that “the voters” (as a whole) aren’t as rabidly “conservative” as perceived, but that *just* enough of them are - considering that the right-most tend to vote regularly, consistently, and in blocs - to skew the perceptions (and realities) of the political structures of this country. Yeah, poll after poll shows most of the right wing’s political/cultural obsessions (abortions, guns, gay issues, etc.) are “unpopular” by about 2-1 margins; usually at worst 60-40. But unless “the voters” get off their backsides and actually translate those opinions into electoral results, we’re still going to to be stuck with, effectively, minority rule for the foreseeable future.

An unfortunate fact of life in a democracy: a cohesive and committed minority will [?usually? ?often? ?sometimes?] be able to direct the political scene no matter what the apathetic majority might think. And even more unfortunately, too many of that minority just want to simplify the political scene by getting rid of democracy altogether…

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:22:03am

re: #260 Joe Bacon ✅

Just remember folks that FAUX keeps insisting that Joe is senile.

[Embedded content]

he sure rolled them pretty good last month re the debt limit

and how do they explain him single handedly getting tfg indicted?

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🔧-wench  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:22:57am

re: #270 William Lewis

Current Mood:

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Video

Alt.

Woody Guthrie- Cumberland Gap

Looks like thread potential in a geographically musical way.

John Hiatt - Howlin’ Down The Cumberland

Hope I didn’t mess with your mood.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:24:55am

re: #268 Hecuba’s daughter

Further in the thread:

i see no lies, everyone should be a majority in their own countries.

how the eff would that work?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:26:02am

re: #158 Nerdy Fish

Today’s word… (Result was a par, spoiler in the, well, spoiler tag)

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Hidden for same reason — spoiler

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🔧-wench  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:27:34am

re: #281 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

how the eff would that work?

Leave your math at the door.

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William Lewis  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:27:58am

re: #280 🔧-wench

Alt.

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Hope I didn’t mess with your mood.

Nope :)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:28:31am

The international antivaxxer grift goes on (Crikey, June 14, 2023)

Anti-vaxxer guilty of illegally collecting $330,000 in ‘flood relief’ donations

Anti-vaxxer guilty of illegally collecting $330,000 in ‘flood relief’ donations

David Oneeglio failed to properly account for money and equipment donated to Aussie Helping Hands, a group he set up.

An Australian conspiracy movement influencer has been found guilty of illegally collecting donations and failing to account for money and property for an anti-vaccine flood relief group that was created because he claimed other charities weren’t transparent enough.

Yesterday David Oneeglio pleaded guilty to two charges under Queensland’s Collections Act 1966 for his role in Aussie Helping Hands and Aussie Helping Hearts, the two operating names for an organisation that was revealed by a Crikey investigation to have illegally raised hundreds of thousands of dollars to help Northern Rivers flood victims in early 2022.

Oneeglio, who emerged during the COVID-19 pandemic as one of the loudest voices from the anti-vaccine, anti-lockdown freedom movement, was charged with collecting donations illegally without approval and for failing to produce requested information and records to account properly for money and equipment received. A third charge relating to unlawful misuse of the donated money was dropped.

Oneeglio was fined $750 but no conviction was recorded.

Wow, AU$750. That’ll make up for hundreds of thousands of dollars of grift. That’s guaranteed to be a future deterrent.

After Queensland’s charity watchdog, the Office of Fair Trading, told Crikey that it was investigating the group, Aussie Helping Hands sent an email to its mailing list saying it had ceased operations, before relaunching under the slightly different name Aussie Helping Hearts. The Office of Fair Trading froze the group’s accounts, reportedly seizing $193,000, and charged both Oneeglio and Birtles-Eades. Birtles-Eades faces the same charge of allegedly conducting an unlawful appeal and has pleaded not guilty ahead of a court appearance later this year.

In a post sent to his nearly 60,000 followers on Telegram, Oneeglio called it a “good win”. He falsely claimed that he was “cleared of any misappropriation” — a charge was dropped but it was not disproved — and he admitted he failed to get a charity licence or account for “dozens of pressure cleaners and generators” that he said he dropped off.

“I will never regret promoting Aussie Helping Hands,” he wrote. Oneeglio did not respond to questions from Crikey.

The Office of Fair Trading announced that frozen donations would go to relevant charities for their administration.

(more)

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Jay C  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:29:33am

re: #279 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

he sure rolled them pretty good last month re the debt limit

and how do they explain him single handedly getting tfg indicted?

It’s the RW media: they tend to present stuff in comic-book stereotypes, anyway, so it’s like a “secret-identity” thing: Sleepy Joe by day: shuffling around the WH in a fog: Dark Brandon by night, laser-eyeing the oppo til they don’t know what hit them.

Of course, the RWNJ media characterizes him aa a sort of super-villain, but there we are…

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sagehen  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:29:42am

re: #268 Hecuba’s daughter

Further in the thread:

Maybe I’m wrong, but anyone who classifies themselves as center-right and makes some disparaging remark about the “libs” is actually a Nazi

I just finished watching Band of Brothers… in the episode where they finally get to Germany and start taking villages and towns, Every. Single. Shopkeeper. and Every. Single. Homeowner. swore they were not a Nazi. They were all quite insistent that only the people in military uniforms were “actual” Nazis, everyone else was just a helpless innocent who never noticed the transport trains, never smelled the crematoria, and certainly none of them ever worked civilian support jobs at any of the camps.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:30:24am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:30:56am

re: #285 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

…revealed by a Crikey investigation to have illegally raised hundreds of thousands of dollars…

Got real confused there until I realized Crikey was an Aussie news outlet.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:31:18am

re: #288 Dave In Austin

But remember folks: WE’RE the groomers, apparently.

/

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:31:40am

re: #273 The GOP is a Terrorist Organization

do they seriously not understand how ‘law and order’ works in this country?
nah. they know. this is all performance

are they just making things up to rile the base?
mostly

does any of this made up nonsense make any sense? ie that biden is actually this clever AND powerful?
not at all
or else that very serious root canal story above falls to the ground.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:32:23am

re: #278 Jay C

Well, not be too much of a downer, but while you are certainly right about the first bit, the “catching up” part seems to have been definitely shifted to the “later” category, at least in the US. Hopefully not permanently…

The problem isn’t that “the voters” (as a whole) aren’t as rabidly “conservative” as perceived, but that *just* enough of them are - considering that the right-most tend to vote regularly, consistently, and in blocs - to skew the perceptions (and realities) of the political structures of this country. Yeah, poll after poll shows most of the right wing’s political/cultural obsessions (abortions, guns, gay issues, etc.) are “unpopular” by about 2-1 margins; usually at worst 60-40. But unless “the voters” get off their backsides and actually translate those opinions into electoral results, we’re still going to to be stuck with, effectively, minority rule for the foreseeable future.

An unfortunate fact of life in a democracy: a cohesive and committed minority will [?usually? ?often? ?sometimes?] be able to direct the political scene no matter what the apathetic majority might think. And even more unfortunately, too many of that minority just want to simplify the political scene by getting rid of democracy altogether…

But what is popular about right wing politics is that it plays into American understandings of “freedom” as “freedom from social obligation as a product of community.” This is a hyperindividualist culture, to a degree that’s unhealthy and personally destructive, particularly when paired with a fascination with applying moralism to individual bodies through schemes of punishment and negative reinforcement.

Also…and I don’t know how to say this nicely…Americans are so individualist that many of them feel attacked when you propose that a problem could be systemic, that society constructs the facility in which the specific Bad Things happen. When you propose a systemic analysis, Americans tend to see a challenge to their personal virtue and get offended; when you talk about a specific bad person as a phenomenon only possible within a system that makes their behavior easier, they see it as making excuses.

Everyone’s waiting for a hero, for a guy that intuitively rises to be in charge and solve the problem. Each American is not just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire, but a temporarily embarrassed Byronic hero.

It’s a language of morality and governance that’s impoverished, Orwell-like, and conservatives prosper by playing into these cultural base assumptions: they will happy provide an endless roster of internal and external enemies, delight in their suffering, tell their audience that problems can be solved through the effort of singular Great Men that simply need the space—no accountability, no skepticism—to work their miracle.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:34:20am

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:34:20am

Removing all doubt that Carlson is a good little Putinist Nazi.

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William Lewis  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:38:47am

Yet another moment of Paleo-anthropological fun from me to you :)

Mastodon

It’s beautiful to see proof that A. Afarensis was bipedal :)

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Mike Lamb  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:39:18am

re: #288 Dave In Austin

Wut?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:39:31am

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:45:28am

re: #268 Hecuba’s daughter

Further in the thread:

Maybe I’m wrong, but anyone who classifies themselves as center-right and makes some disparaging remark about the “libs” is actually a Nazi

I concur.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:47:35am

re: #278 Jay C

Well, not be too much of a downer, but while you are certainly right about the first bit, the “catching up” part seems to have been definitely shifted to the “later” category, at least in the US. Hopefully not permanently…

The problem isn’t that “the voters” (as a whole) aren’t as rabidly “conservative” as perceived, but that *just* enough of them are - considering that the right-most tend to vote regularly, consistently, and in blocs - to skew the perceptions (and realities) of the political structures of this country. Yeah, poll after poll shows most of the right wing’s political/cultural obsessions (abortions, guns, gay issues, etc.) are “unpopular” by about 2-1 margins; usually at worst 60-40. But unless “the voters” get off their backsides and actually translate those opinions into electoral results, we’re still going to to be stuck with, effectively, minority rule for the foreseeable future.

An unfortunate fact of life in a democracy: a cohesive and committed minority will [?usually? ?often? ?sometimes?] be able to direct the political scene no matter what the apathetic majority might think. And even more unfortunately, too many of that minority just want to simplify the political scene by getting rid of democracy altogether…

we are in a period of change, as silverdolphin continues to point out.
the right is holding on using every tactic they can muster. because their grip is slipping.
($, the media, tfg, absurd gerrymandering, ignoring long accepted conventions)
so they still have power. some of it outsized relative to their actual numbers.
and they got permission from tfg to go loud and let their freak flags fly.

we’re likely very close to a cusp, last straw, breaking point.
because it’s all likely a losing battle for them.
after which they will mostly be neutered and the fever will break.

looking backwards, it’ll be obvious.
it’s easy to look back somewhat dispassionately after a good period of time has passed.

it’s the present that’s difficult. when you crave quick and punctuated (can’t this just be over) it’s hard to have the patience to live through the slow and gradual.

or something

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:48:25am

re: #291 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

do they seriously not understand how ‘law and order’ works in this country?
nah. they know. this is all performance

are they just making things up to rile the base?
mostly

does any of this made up nonsense make any sense? ie that biden is actually this clever AND powerful?
not at all
or else that very serious root canal story above falls to the ground.

You can’t convince someone of what they don’t want to understand, let alone what they profit from not understanding.

As I keep saying, this isn’t some interpretive flaw, a lack of intelligence: conservatives are articulating a worldview in which caste influences rights. Trump can do this because he stands as the head of their collectivity, and embodies their thesis that they can do as they please openly and without shame.

It is good to abuse power, as long you as punch down.

As a consequence, anyone that attempts to enforce equality under the law is not just their enemy, but an enemy of nature and the divine such that they’re better understood as depraved than in error. Hence you get constructions along the lines of “Biden is incapable of governance, but also crafty enough to do very specific acts of governing.”

That this makes no sense does not matter, because these are people who are contemptuous of truth, of the idea that consensus (with their inferiors) can establish norms, that there are material truths that exist separate to their impressions, and that words have meaning.

As always, it’s good to look at how they treat they things they claim to hold sacred…all of which they have evacuated of deeper meaning that might compel uncomfortable self-sacrifices or just self-scrutiny…and filled the scraped out cavity with selfishness and self-dealing.

Hence the free market God, but also occult reading of the Bill of Rights, but also the belief in “small government” that’s actually a panopticon.

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William Lewis  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:51:10am

re: #291 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

do they seriously not understand how ‘law and order’ works in this country?
nah. they know. this is all performance

are they just making things up to rile the base?
mostly

does any of this made up nonsense make any sense? ie that biden is actually this clever AND powerful?
not at all
or else that very serious root canal story above falls to the ground.

They don’t _care_.

The only thing that matters is power.

That is why we have to understand that we have to do what ever is needed to defeat them. They will destroy our nation if we let them. Fuck them. Crush them first.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:51:30am

awwwwwww they won’t let little pulpit pimp Ricky play with them anymore!

Southern Baptists reject Rick Warren’s appeal to reinstate Saddleback

washingtonpost.com

Leaders of the nation’s largest Protestant denomination ejected Saddleback and four other churches in February for having female pastors

Thousands of Southern Baptists voted overwhelmingly to affirm the expulsion of Saddleback Church, the epitome for decades of a modern conservative evangelical megachurch, because Saddleback Pastor Rick Warren ordained women, Southern Baptist Convention officials said Wednesday.

On Tuesday, Warren and Rev. Linda Barnes Popham, of Fern Creek Baptist Church outside Louisville, each made three-minute pleas to the 12,700 SBC “messengers,” or church representatives, at the group’s annual meeting in New Orleans. Barnes Popham had led Fern Creek for 30 years when SBC leaders in February ejected it, Saddleback and three other churches for having female pastors. Only Saddleback and Fern Creek appealed the decision.

SBC messengers also affirmed Fern Creek’s ejection, SBC officials said Wednesday.
The nation’s largest Protestant denomination had been expected to sustain the decision made by its executive and credentials committees, and both churches said beforehand they would make no changes to their leadership if they lost. Warren and Popham had appealed for diversity and a big-tent evangelicalism based on a shared goal of bringing more people into a relationship with Christianity.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:52:37am

re: #294 lawhawk

Removing all doubt that Carlson is a good little Putinist Nazi.

I’m sticking with “opportunist who will say anything for ratings and with no principles of his own.”

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A Cranky One  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:56:31am

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🔧-wench  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:58:06am

This is dangerous for the pharmaceuticals industry.

Mastodon

What if there’s a spike in good health?

/seems plain dangerous.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:58:33am

?

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:59:32am
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A Cranky One  Jun 14, 2023 • 8:59:47am

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:00:29am

re: #294 lawhawk

Removing all doubt that Carlson is a good little Putinist Nazi.

A thing I’m always going to challenge people on is:

Putin didn’t make these people, people like this made Putin.

Quite literally, when you look at who got on-side with the RF during the Yeltsin years, who further signed on when the RF was fighting The War on Terror, and who just looked the other because the RF meant cheap LNG.

They’re not loyal to Putin, he’s just the most recent available chunk of rhetoric for their consistent belief in oligarchy mated with nationalism: creating a tiny metropole, and intermediate ring of citizens that will die for the needs of the metropole (or simply die because the metropole is apathetic to them), and a vast periphery from which it is right to strip anything and everything for the benefit of the metropole.

They’ll sell other authoritarians—look at nostalgia for Salazar, Pinochet, and Franco, but also look at the airbrushing of current shitheads like Netanyahu or that Polish fucker—but Putin is the rhetorically effective choice because Putin has built an image that plays into the ideals and expectations of hierarchy-brained creeps.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:04:12am
But Mr. Trump’s competitors — counterintuitively, according to the old conventional political wisdom — are actually dreading what threatens to be an endless indictment news cycle that could swallow up the summer. His rivals are desperate to get media coverage for their campaigns, but since the indictment became public last Thursday, as several advisers grumbled, the only way they can get their candidates booked on television is for them to answer questions about Mr. Trump.”

nyt

they only care how this affects them

and not one has the balls to tell it like it is

the R party has become the proverbial frog in the pot of boiling water.
they’ve gone from pu**y grabbing tapes all the way to indictments for espionage, with more on the horizon and there are zero adult R’s in the room willing to say wtf are we doing with this guy letting this guy do to us?

nope. gotta protect my reelection, fund raising, grift, job, whatever

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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:05:49am

re: #288 Dave In Austin

I’d be curious - in the way one is when they slow down to see how bad a traffic accident is - to see what little Ben has in his spank bank.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:07:29am

re: #309 The Ghost of a Flea

A thing I’m always going to challenge people on is:

Putin didn’t make these people, people like this made Putin.

Quite literally, when you look at who got on-side with the RF during the Yeltsin years, who further signed on when the RF was fighting The War on Terror, and who just looked the other because the RF meant cheap LNG.

They’re not loyal to Putin, he’s just the most recent available chunk of rhetoric for their consistent belief in oligarchy mated with nationalism: creating a tiny metropole, and intermediate ring of citizens that will die for the needs of the metropole (or simply die because the metropole is apathetic to them), and a vast periphery from which it is right to strip anything and everything for the benefit of the metropole.

They’ll sell other authoritarians—look at nostalgia for Salazar, Pinochet, and Franco, but also look at the airbrushing of current shitheads like Netanyahu or that Polish fucker—but Putin is the rhetorically effective choice because Putin has built an image that plays into the ideals and expectations of hierarchy-brained creeps.

they can spell it

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A Cranky One  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:07:59am
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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:08:10am

re: #288 Dave In Austin

My Spidey Sense is telling me Benjy’s wife has him in dry dock! 😈

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:13:07am

re: #309 The Ghost of a Flea

The other thing I’d challenge on is:

Go read about Putin and notice how he’s not consistent in his ideology. Nationalism and conservatism are something that he’s affected over time, in tempo with how much Russia has been deteriorating from kleptocracy.

Like, the idea that this is all a seamless cloth of ideology does not bear up under scrutiny: Tucker Carlson’s career is just consistent shamelessness, being willing to say whatever keeps him an audience and preserve he sense of entitlement…and you don’t have to look very far to see the cynical transitions.

What is universal is the interests of capital holders, such that they don’t have to coordinate in some conspiratorial way because they’re all using the same playbook: ultranationalism and fascism are what you do when you have to explain why existing power structures—the nation-state and global corporate capitalism—keep not providing the kind of stability and franchise that justify their existence.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:13:42am

re: #306 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

If Cannon let’s Trump off, there’s NJ.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:14:31am
Mike Pence appears to have had a sudden change of heart over his thoughts on Donald Trump’s handling of classified documents.

After arguing that bringing federal criminal charges against the former president would send a “terrible message to the world” last week, the former vice president has now said that he “can’t defend” his ex-boss’s alleged actions laid out in the indictment.

“Having read the indictment, these are very serious allegations,” Mr Pence told The Wall Street Journal’s Editorial Board on Tuesday.

“And I can’t defend what is alleged.”

Mr Pence later added that, as a member of a military family, he was concerned about the risks to the lives of American service members when secret information is not handled correctly.

Mike Pence has sudden change of heart over Trump classified documents: ‘I can’t defend it’ (Independent)

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:18:06am
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:21:35am

in my own mind im starting to equate

- cannon can / will let trump off

with

- fake electors, a republican governor just has to…, pence can declare

to me it feels like the same level of desperation.
believeing that there is a lane there if they could just steer and squeeze through it like jason bourne

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:21:56am

re: #306 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

If the FBI and DOJ have evidence of felony conduct at Bedminster, then those charges could be filed not in FL or NY but in NJ. NJ Federal District Court has 3 divisions, and a case could be brought in Trenton.

Arguably, Trump could claim that any charges stemming from crime in NJ should be consolidated into FL case. The problem is that with so many crimes and charges, committed in so many jurisdictions, Trump could play venue game to delay.

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William Lewis  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:22:28am

Oh, fuck, this is is is is is just too much fun.

Ring of Fire, if it were written by Dire Straits

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:30:53am

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:31:51am
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Teukka  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:32:34am

re: #148 Teukka

I swear, transphobes learn 100% of what they know about trans people from porn and they aren’t even paying good attention…

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William Lewis  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:32:54am

re: #317 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Mike Pence has sudden change of heart over Trump classified documents: ‘I can’t defend it’ (Independent)

“And I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I’d like to sell you. Cheap!”

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A Cranky One  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:33:02am
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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:36:12am

re: #326 A Cranky One

“Anyone want some Peter Pan Peanut Butter on the matzoh?”

“No, I want Skippy!”

“Jif!”

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Dave In Austin  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:37:01am
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dat_said  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:40:26am

Totally irrelevant to any discussion today but I just had a former co-worker email me something like “I’m going to be in Denver in September, and I’d like to visit Yellowstone. I have five days. What, in addition to Yellowstone, should I see in CO and WY?” The guy’s from Brussels and I thought had been to the US often enough that he’d understand distances.

Summary of my reply was “One of the truck stops in Laramie WY might be an interesting stop on your day-long drive to Yellowstone”.

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William Lewis  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:49:11am

re: #329 dat_said

Totally irrelevant to any discussion today but I just had a former co-worker email me something like “I’m going to be in Denver in September, and I’d like to visit Yellowstone. I have five days. What, in addition to Yellowstone, should I see in CO and WY?” The guy’s from Brussels and I thought had been to the US often enough that he’d understand distances.

Summary of my reply was “One of the truck stops in Laramie WY might be an interesting stop on your day-long drive to Yellowstone”.

Yeah, reminding your friend that they will want as much time as possible at Yellowstone as they can get is good karma. Get them to land as close as possible (is Denver possible?) to help. As a landscape photographer I could live the rest of my natural life there without any problem but your friend needs direction.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:50:57am
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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:51:00am

‘MAGA versus ultra-MAGA’: Report claims in-fighting at Michigan GOP has left ‘no one in control’

rawstory.com

Good, Very Good, Keep It Up! 😈

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:51:36am

re: #329 dat_said

Totally irrelevant to any discussion today but I just had a former co-worker email me something like “I’m going to be in Denver in September, and I’d like to visit Yellowstone. I have five days. What, in addition to Yellowstone, should I see in CO and WY?” The guy’s from Brussels and I thought had been to the US often enough that he’d understand distances.

Summary of my reply was “One of the truck stops in Laramie WY might be an interesting stop on your day-long drive to Yellowstone”.

To Americans, 100 years is a long time. To Europeans, 100 miles is a long way. The size and scope of the United States and Canada is mind-boggling to someone who doesn’t live in that environment every day.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 9:55:40am

I’m back from the general store.

I WON THE LOTTO!

Click to Reveal

On my free 2x2 tickets, I won 2 free 2x2 tickets.
On my Lucky for Life ticket, I won $6.

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austin_blue  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:00:53am

re: #329 dat_said

Totally irrelevant to any discussion today but I just had a former co-worker email me something like “I’m going to be in Denver in September, and I’d like to visit Yellowstone. I have five days. What, in addition to Yellowstone, should I see in CO and WY?” The guy’s from Brussels and I thought had been to the US often enough that he’d understand distances.

Summary of my reply was “One of the truck stops in Laramie WY might be an interesting stop on your day-long drive to Yellowstone”.

United has a daily non-stop from Denver to Jackson WY. One hour, thirty minutes. Next shortest, with a connection, is 4 hours +. The non-stop is also the cheapest at $320 round trip.

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dat_said  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:01:08am

re: #330 William Lewis

Yeah, reminding your friend that they will want as much time as possible at Yellowstone as they can get is good karma. Get them to land as close as possible (is Denver possible?) to help. As a landscape photographer I could live the rest of my natural life there without any problem but your friend needs direction.

I advised him to either go to Rocky Mountain National Park and area for five days (easy access from Denver, elk bugling in September, lots of great hikes, just understand the timed entry process) or, since the rest of his trip is corporate paid, fly to Jackson WY to do Grand Teton and Yellowstone (though easy to spend most of five days in Yellowstone) for wildlife including bugling elk and geysers and mountains and more. While the drive from Denver to Yellowstone is fine, taking two days out of your five sitting in a car seems a poor use of time.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:02:56am

re: #331 Backwoods Sleuth

is huckabee, hawker of Relaxium (really!) claiming that more animals than god specifically commanded made it to the ‘ramp’? god is not all powerful all knowing all seeing?

and was that third one a male or a female?
cause you know if it displaced the wrong one of the other two…

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William Lewis  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:02:59am

re: #333 Nerdy Fish

To Americans, 100 years is a long time. To Europeans, 100 miles is a long way. The size and scope of the United States and Canada is mind-boggling to someone who doesn’t live in that environment every day.

My ex had relatives from Switzerland come over that wanted to take a day trip to the Grand Canyon from Wisconsin :) Not … Quite … LOL!

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:04:24am

Team Cake or Team Pie? (You all know I am TEAM PIE!)

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:05:44am

re: #330 William Lewis

Yeah, reminding your friend that they will want as much time as possible at Yellowstone as they can get is good karma. Get them to land as close as possible (is Denver possible?) to help. As a landscape photographer I could live the rest of my natural life there without any problem but your friend needs direction.

SLC is another good spot to start the trip to Yellowstone from. It’s a much shorter drive at 6 hours+, rather than Denver’s 9+ hours.

If they’re intent on seeing a national park, Rocky Mtn is a good close one to Denver, or they could drive down to Colorado Springs and see Pike’s Peak and/or Red Rocks.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:08:03am
“GOP primary voters can benefit from reading the latest Trump indictment and asking what it means for a second Trump term. The facts alleged show that Mr. Trump has again played into the hands of his enemies. His actions were reckless, arrogant and remarkably self-destructive. This is the same Donald Trump they will get if they nominate him for a third time.”

wsj

he could have stopped this any time. with likely zero repercussions if he had.
he was given multiple opportunities.
each time he made it even worse
and harder to justify later
he’s caught, and he’s still digging

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dat_said  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:08:49am

Just because

Bull Elk Bugling | Up Close & Personal | Yellowstone National Park 🦌

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piratedan  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:10:02am

re: #196 Dave In Austin

have done the Tucson to DFW and mostly stayed off the interstate when possible, but have to admit to a lack of choices in route between Las Cruces and Tucson….

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:10:57am

re: #339 Vicious Babushka

Team Cake or Team Pie? (You all know I am TEAM PIE!)

[Embedded content]

YouTube

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austin_blue  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:11:52am

re: #339 Vicious Babushka

Team Cake or Team Pie? (You all know I am TEAM PIE!)

Team Pie, also.

Although a flourless chocolate “cake” will do the trick for me.

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:12:16am
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Vicious Babushka  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:12:37am

This is quite the confession.

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dat_said  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:12:50am

re: #339 Vicious Babushka

Team Cake or Team Pie? (You all know I am TEAM PIE!)

I’m Team Cheesecake

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:13:52am

re: #348 dat_said

I’m Team Cheesecake

Cheesecake is actually pie. It has a crust and a filling. Therefore: pie.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:16:53am

re: #337 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

is huckabee, hawker of Relaxium (really!) claiming that more animals than god specifically commanded made it to the ‘ramp’? god is not all powerful all knowing all seeing?

and was that third one a male or a female?
cause you know if it displaced the wrong one of the other two…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:18:35am

re: #321 William Lewis

Oh, fuck, this is is is is is just too much fun.

[Embedded content]

Video

That guys channel is worth a listen. He regularly does stuff like this.

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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:19:21am

Matt Walsh’s production team used dishonest means to lure trans and other LGBTQ people into appearing in his hate documentary, What is a Woman?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:20:53am

In extremely local news, a weather alert on the weather radio.

WXL-67 (the NWS station) is off-the-air until 1715 today.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:23:06am

Front-page article in the county paper: Two robbers broke into Sonny’s supermarket in the county seat. They stole tens of thousands of dollars in cash, and a significant amount of controlled substances from the pharmacy.

The sheriff’s office believes they are from out of the area, noting a rash of people from cities coming to rural areas to rob businesses and churches due to a small police presence.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:24:39am

re: #354 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Why would a supermarket have “tens of thousands” of cash on hand?

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William Lewis  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:25:07am

Just when I though I’d found the ultimate music today… Oh fucking shit…

Larkin Poe - Mad As A Hatter

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:31:19am

re: #221 Nerdy Fish

The CEO of Reddit has doubled down on the stupidity, saying the blackout “will pass” and also warning Reddit employees not to wear company gear in public, for fear of retaliation. It’s incredibly tone-deaf, so, on brand for a major tech CEO.

And it looks like he’s correct. Some of Reddit’s largest subreddits (r/Politics, r/Atheism, r/Christianity, &c) are all back.

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jaunte  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:32:02am

Third Monkey Fighting Style:

- Get there late
- Get desperate
- Get drowned

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:32:45am

Hamtramck, a formerly majority-Polish town 100 years ago, is now primarily Muslim.

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JC1  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:33:19am

re: #338 William Lewis

My ex had relatives from Switzerland come over that wanted to take a day trip to the Grand Canyon from Wisconsin :) Not … Quite … LOL!

Flip side is driving in Europe and seeing road signs with distances of less than 300 miles to multiple capitals.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:34:19am

re: #347 Vicious Babushka

Lady G: “….because you could convict any Republican of anything in Washington DC.”

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:34:26am

re: #356 William Lewis

Just when I though I’d found the ultimate music today… Oh fucking shit…

[Embedded content]

Video

I like that stage. Puts me in mind of the Akron Civic Theatre. We saw Rob Thomas a few years back there and it has a real throwback theater setting to it.

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:35:57am

Audit rates are down from the 1980s. They’re down from 2010. The GOP has made enforcement tougher to make sure that people are paying the required taxes.

That translates to tens of billions in tax revenue lost every year.

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gocart mozart  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:36:18am

re: #356 William Lewis

Joe Bonamassa & Larkin Poe - Spoonful - KTBA Cruise 2019

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:36:19am

re: #347 Vicious Babushka

This is quite the confession.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:37:00am

For example, from r/Atheism this morning:

FFRF is demanding that the Berkeley County School Board in South Carolina prevent members of the audience from interrupting its meetings to push Christianity by reciting the Lord’s Prayer during the moment of silence. “As long as she keeps getting away with it, right, it’ll just continue…”

TL;DR, during the “moment of silence” at the Berkeley County (So. Car.) school board meetings, a woman insists on loudly reciting the “Lord’s Prayer,” interrupting the moment of silence.

The solution would be to get rid of the moment of silence, but the Christian-majority board isn’t going to do that. They did take action against non-Christians objecting however.

The Freedom From Religion Foundation is demanding that the Berkeley County School Board in South Carolina prevent members of the audience from interrupting its meetings to push Christianity by reciting the Lord’s Prayer during the moment of silence.

The state/church watchdog has been alerted that the board is currently doing nothing to stop members of the audience from hijacking a moment of silence to chant aloud the Lord’s Prayer. The disruptive prayers for the last three board meetings have been led by former school board member Ann Conder in order to “invite God into the boardroom.”

At the most recent meeting, a woman commented, “Oh, no, no, a moment of silence. No, show some respect for non-Christians here” to protest Conder’s inappropriate disruption of the meeting. Conder was allowed to continue praying, but a security guard approached the woman protesting the inappropriate prayer, grabbed her arm and told her to leave. She later told media, “As long as she keeps getting away with it, right, it’ll just continue. It’s disrespectful for non-Christians who are there, and it’s a moment of silence. It’s pretty simple.”

(more at FFRF)

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:39:14am

re: #349 Vicious Babushka

Cheesecake is actually pie. It has a crust and a filling. Therefore: pie.

Oh here we go…;-)

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:39:18am
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William Lewis  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:41:51am

Watching various old videos. This popped up.

Goddam Damn she was so talented …

We lost so much…

My number 2 crush after Molly Ringwald…

Whitney Houston - How Will I Know (Official Video)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:44:18am

re: #368 Teukka

There is not enough brain bleach…

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:45:31am

The Snowflakes boycotting Frosted Flakes.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:45:33am

re: #273 The GOP is a Terrorist Organization

James William Garrett
@JamesWGarrett1
Trump was indicted because he broke the law, you craven, cynical, un-American piece of 💩.

You *know* this.

Yet you keep defending him because you have to sell more clicks to “What Is A Woman?”

GTFOH Boreing!

What is a woman?

Woman is the wonder of the world
She may be high society or just a good old fashioned girl
When she was made she pulled the shade on Mother Nature’s pearl
Yes, a woman is the wonder of the world
-Billy Joe Shaver-

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:47:00am

re: #363 lawhawk

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Audit rates are down from the 1980s. They’re down from 2010. The GOP has made enforcement tougher to make sure that people are paying the required taxes.

That translates to tens of billions in tax revenue lost every year.

More tax post audit because more gross income, less deductions, change in tax bracket?
Or people cheat less?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:47:09am

re: #235 Dave In Austin

Christian parrots are all over that guy about same-sex marriage (otherwise known as “marriage” in US law). They are doing their level-best to sealion the conversation about the arrested douchecanoe into a theological discussion on why Christians should hate gay people.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:47:39am

Mastodon

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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:49:00am

re: #372 BeenHereAwhile

What is a woman?

Woman is the wonder of the world
She may be high society or just a good old fashioned girl
When she was made she pulled the shade on Mother Nature’s pearl
Yes, a woman is the wonder of the world
-Billy Joe Shaver-

Also this by John Lennon:

Woman is the n*gger of the world
Yes she is, think about it
Woman is the n*gger of the world
Think about it, do something about it
We make her paint her face and dance
If she won’t be a slave, we say that she don’t love us
If she’s real, we say she’s trying to be a man
While putting her down we pretend that she is above us
Woman is the n*gger of the world, yes she is
If you don’t believe me take a look to the one you’re with
Woman is the slave to the slaves
Ah yeah, better scream about it
We make her bear and raise our children
And then we leave her flat for being a fat old mother hen
We tell her home is the only place she should be
Then we complain that she’s too unworldly to be our friend
Woman is the n*gger of the world, yes she is
If you don’t believe me take a look to the one you’re with
Oh woman is the slave to the slaves
Yeah, alright
We insult her everyday on TV
And wonder why she has no guts or confidence
When she’s young we kill her will to be free
While telling her not to be so smart we put her down for being so dumb
Woman is the n*gger of the world, yes she is
If you don’t believe me take a look to the one you’re with
Woman is the slave to the slaves
Yes she is, if you believe me, you better scream about it
We make her paint her face and dance
We make her paint her face and dance
We make her paint her face and dance
We make her paint her face and dance
We make her paint her face and dance
We make her paint her face and dance

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Captain Ron  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:49:29am
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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:51:17am

Not surprised that Joe LIEberman’s new scam is doing this!

No Labels Is Helping a Firm that Raises Money for Right-Wing Extremists

The self-proclaimed centrist group is using a vendor that assists election deniers, MAGA Republicans, and the radical Trump right.

motherjones.com

Donations to No Labels are handled by an online fundraising platform called Anedot. According to its website, Anedot typically charges political groups a 4 percent fee plus 30 cents per transaction. Under that formula, when an online contributor sends No Labels $100, Anedot pockets $4.30. That money bolsters Anedot’s mission to raise funds for the right and the GOP.

Anedot’s website boasts that it has processed billions of dollars in contributions since it started, and the groups it cites as key clients are conservative and religious organizations: Focus on the Family, the Susan B. Anthony List (a prominent foe of reproductive rights), the Thomas More Society (a conservative Catholic group that supported Trump’s election deniers), the Reformed Theological Seminary (which is “committed to the Bible as God’s inerrant Word”), and the International Alliance for Christian Education.

On Dietzel’s Twitter feed, he has supported James O’Keefe, the infamous right-wing provocateur who mounts sting operations against media and liberal figures, and he has amplified criticism of the supposed “woke mind virus.” In February Dietzel retweeted a tweet from a conservative activist named Seth Weathers who asserted, “I’m increasingly convinced the majority of problems are due to the lack of testosterone in men.”

Anedot describes itself as nonpartisan. But it has a distinct ideological bent and seeks to boost Republicans and conservative causes. In January, Dietzel announced Anedot Direct, a method for donors to contribute directly to campaigns and causes, bypassing middlemen. Anedot pledges that it does not share the data of these donors. (A contributor to a political campaign or ideological organization can end up on mailing lists and be endlessly solicited by other outfits.) Anedot charges what it calls a “small processing fee” for these donations.

On its Anedot Direct page, the firm promotes a “Conservative List” of organizations and candidates who can receive contributions directly through this service. The roster includes 205 entities, including 46 state GOP committees, Sen. Tim Scott’s and Nikki Haley’s presidential campaigns, 109 House Republican members (including Reps. Jim Jordan, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, and Matt Gaetz), 37 GOP senators (including Ted Cruz, Mitch McConnell, Tom Cotton, Marco Rubio, and Rand Paul), and 11 organizations (including Turning Point USA, Moms for America, the National Association for Gun Rights, and the National Republican Congressional Committee).

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:51:53am

re: #368 Teukka

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Ghouliani is a repug leader BECAUSE he is a degenerate asshole, not in spite of it. The Republican base admires this, because they are degenerates themselves and consider it a measure of power, the key to success: Status is measured by what you get away with. I have been around conservative leaders of one kind or another all my life. They are trash all the way down. Finally accepting this was the reason I finally broke with the Republicans and went woke, so to speak.

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William Lewis  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:53:51am

re: #375 Charles Johnson

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Nah, all we need, child, is a modern Nuremberg war-crimes trial. Starting with what you have done against humanity. Now bugger off, shithead.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:54:48am

re: #292 The Ghost of a Flea

Everyone’s waiting for a hero, for a guy that intuitively rises to be in charge and solve the problem. Each American is not just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire, but a temporarily embarrassed Byronic hero.

This is why I’ve grown to hate the idea of ‘hero’. It’s a concept so poisoned that it needs to be dropped into the sun.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:54:50am

re: #379 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Ghouliani is a repug leader BECAUSE he is a degenerate asshole, not in spite of it. The Republican base admires this, because they are degenerates themselves and consider it a measure of power, the key to success: Status is measured by what you get away with. I have been around conservative leaders of one kind or another all my life. They are trash all the way down. Finally accepting this was the reason I finally broke with the Republicans and went woke, so to speak.

Something similar happened when I finally broke away from religion. I had a “road from Damascus” moment when I finally accepted that I was kiddling myself and tying myself in knots trying to rationalize rank superstition.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:55:19am
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Captain Ron  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:55:59am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:56:38am

re: #380 William Lewis

Nah, all we need, child, is a modern Nuremberg war-crimes trial. Starting with what you have done against humanity. Now bugger off, shithead.

They can start by putting the covid deniers and antivaxxers on trial under the Julius Streicher precedent. Follow his path, share his fate, plague rats.

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2023 • 10:59:31am

re: #373 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

More tax post audit because more gross income, less deductions, change in tax bracket?
Or people cheat less?

Combination of factors. If IRS flagged improper credit or deduction, the taxpayer is less likely to use that method going forward (deterrent resulting in more income, lower deductions).

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danarchy  Jun 14, 2023 • 11:21:20am

re: #373 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

More tax post audit because more gross income, less deductions, change in tax bracket?
Or people cheat less?

so for every dollar they pay in the audit they pay $3 more going forward. Tells me they are probably overpaying in order to avoid an audit. I bet the IRS never goes after them to give money back ;)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 11:27:26am

re: #225 Patricia Kayden

Lazarus Monkey Terror wrote

Bigots would sooner give up their shitty beer (Bud Lite) than Liberals give up their accounts on a shitty, abusive website owned by a nazi wanker. 🤷‍♂️
Can’t wait to hear their excuses for staying when Blocking is taken away from them (“I’m fighting the Good Fight, no really….here’s my Patreon….”)

a) the bigots will return to Bud Lite. Conservative boycotts rarely succeed.
b) I do not find this a compelling argument as long as those on Twitter can continue to ban fascists, Nazis, and Libertarians (often the same thing) from their timelines. I do find it a compelling argument not to join Twitter.

Not every person in Nazi Germany or Nazi-occupied nations were supporters of Nazi régimes, but they still had to deal with the Nazi authorities.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 14, 2023 • 11:38:53am

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