Playing for Change: Jackson Browne, “Doctor My Eyes” (Song Around the World)

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Experience the magic of collaboration as Playing For Change brings together the legendary Jackson Browne, with some of the greatest musicians from around the world for a stunning rendition of his classic, “Doctor My Eyes.” This Song Around The World reunites members of “The Section”— Leland Sklar and Russ Kunkel, who played on the original 1972 song. This reimagining blends the amazing musical stylings of Zakir Hussain, Giovanni Hidalgo, Char and 11 amazing musicians from around the globe, along with a special introduction of the extraordinarily talented Chavonne Stewart, who all collectively create an evocative piece that speaks to the unifying power of music.

Written by:
Jackson Browne

Featuring
Jackson Browne- Vocals, Piano
Leland Sklar- Bass
Russ Kunkel- Percussion
Zakir Hussain- Tablas
Giovanni Hidalgo- Congas
Raul Maldonado- Guiro
Jorginho Gomes- Drums
Rajhesh Vaidhya- Veena
Char- Guitar
Sherieta Lewis- Vocals
Roselyn Williams- Vocals
Chavonne Stewart- Vocals
Mayla Valentin- Shakers
Rafael Pacheco- Cavaquinho
Ali Diarra- Xylophone
Bayakanda- Drum Group

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220 comments
1
darthstar  Sep 8, 2023 • 4:39:28pm

Welcome to the weekend everyone.

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darthstar  Sep 8, 2023 • 4:42:17pm

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Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 8, 2023 • 4:47:54pm

for the old farts that me and my frens

The SteelDrivers - Where Rainbows Never Die (Official Audio)

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Unabogie  Sep 8, 2023 • 4:55:35pm

re: #2 darthstar

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Hey, I just posted that joke!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 8, 2023 • 4:57:19pm

For the very old farts:

Thanks for the memory - Shirley Ross & Bob Hope (The Big Broadcast of 38)



..

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Sep 8, 2023 • 5:06:06pm

My latest Twitter post regarding AI art.

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 8, 2023 • 5:08:21pm

re: #5 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

For the very old farts:

The Big Broadcast of 1938
..

And W.C. Fields on the flying motor scooter.

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wrenchwench  Sep 8, 2023 • 5:19:36pm

They have a good governor in NM.

Mastodon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 8, 2023 • 5:29:54pm

re: #148 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

Just enforce the damn law. As it’s written.

As the Johnson Amendment is written, there is no enforcement or penalty mechanism. (Pretty much like the US Flag Code)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 8, 2023 • 5:40:11pm

Wow that video on top is superb.

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wrenchwench  Sep 8, 2023 • 5:40:16pm

I went down a local rabbit hole and saw a story about the time a guy from a nearby small town was on the property he was the manager of, and he found something that looked like a WWII vintage bomb. He didn’t know what to do with it, but he figured the police would know. Not the nearest department, I guess he was more impressed by the dept. in the next nearest town (where I live) so he put the bomb in his van, with his dog Bling Bling, and delivered it to the police dept. They closed the roads, got it in a special trailer, and took it to a facility near the big city to dispose of it.

Click to Reveal

Spokesperson of the dept. at the time was Lt. Cord Wood. I knew I would see that name eventually.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2023 • 5:42:23pm

re: #11 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wow that video on top is superb.

It’s a gem.

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jaunte  Sep 8, 2023 • 5:45:18pm

How many thousands of songs have Leland Sklar and Russ Kunkel played on?

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Sep 8, 2023 • 5:45:40pm

re: #9 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

As the Johnson Amendment is written, there is no enforcement or penalty mechanism. (Pretty much like the US Flag Code)

These are conditions they affirmatively agreed to when they applied for and were then granted 501c3 status.

The govt/irs can withdraw their tax exempt status if they’re not adhering to the requirements of their exemption.

I’m fine with that.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 8, 2023 • 5:45:58pm

Last Sunday was the first time in a long time my wife and I went to the church.

A lifelong member of the community died a few days ago. She served on the public library board for more than twenty years and the Brown’s Creek canal board as secretary for thirty-five years.

Her twin sister died several years ago.

She was very well-known around the area and the church was packed with overflow into the kitchen area and multi-purpose room.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 8, 2023 • 5:48:54pm

David Knopfler - The Stuff of Dreams (Official Music Video)

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 8, 2023 • 5:50:54pm

One thing BG3 gets right is the ability to turn almost anything into an improvised weapon.

bsky.app

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Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2023 • 5:52:25pm

Mastodon

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Sep 8, 2023 • 5:52:55pm

re: #8 wrenchwench

They have a good governor in NM.

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Reminds me of something I have been thinking about. Texas has about 14 times New Mexico’s population. New Mexico is also the only state bordering Texas that has relatively enlightened abortion laws. Forced birth vigilante groups have already published maps showing the likely routes into New Mexico from the Texas population centers. Many of these go through Lubbock. After all Lubbock’s nickname (the Hub City) refers to the convergence of roads there. Lubbock is also the closest sizable city to the largest city in eastern New Mexico, Clovis. Lubbock may therefore see an influx of vigilantes, bounty hunters and even terrorists looking to shut down the abortion route into New Mexico. They are likely to make Lubbock’s seedy motels, saloons and Baptist gun-churches even sleazier than they already are.

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jaunte  Sep 8, 2023 • 5:54:42pm

“…Both in The Section and separately, Sklar has contributed to over 2,000 albums as a session and touring musician. He has toured with James Taylor, Phil Collins, Toto, Lyle Lovett and other major acts. He has also been recorded on many soundtracks to motion pictures and television shows.
en.wikipedia.org.

“… During his career, Kunkel has toured, done session work, produced and/or written hit songs with musicians including Steve Winwood, Linda Ronstadt, Dan Fogelberg, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, Bob Dylan, George Harrison, Joe Walsh, James Taylor, Carole King, Jackson Browne, Bob Seger, Stevie Nicks, Simon & Garfunkel, Carly Simon, Aaron Neville, Clannad, Bonnie Raitt, The BeeGees, Reba McEntire, Kenny Rogers, Wynonna, Lyle Lovett and Jimmy Buffett.

Russ Kunkel’s busy career includes recording and touring with Lyle Lovett, since 2003. In 2010, Russ completed the Troubadour Reunion Tour with James Taylor, Carole King and the original band, Lee Sklar and Danny Kortchmar. Kunkel’s range of creative talents, his musical sensibilities and his easy-going manner have kept this consummate music pro in demand for many years. It is these same qualities that will keep him in demand for years to come. Along with his continued work with Lyle Lovett, Russ performs with The Immediate Family, also featuring legendary guitarists Danny Kortchmar, Waddy Wachtel, Steve Postell and iconic bassist Leland Sklar.
innovativepercussion.com

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Sep 8, 2023 • 5:57:56pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 8, 2023 • 5:59:40pm

re: #12 wrenchwench

Then there’s this from Flint, Mich. (WJRT-TV., with photographs)

FLINT, Mich. (WJRT) - A Flint man made a surprise discovery of military grade explosives concealed in a car door over the weekend.

Flint Police Chief Terence Green said a homeowner who lives on the city’s north side found C4 explosives stashed in the door almost by accident on Saturday.

The man, who was not identified, traveled about 40 miles to a salvage yard in Capac to purchase a vehicle door. He was attempting to install the door Saturday, when he found the explosives hidden inside.

“Indeed this is military grade C4 explosives they are very dangerous and hazardous,” said Green.

The Flint Police Department has an in-house bomb squad, which arrived and took custody of the explosives soon after the resident reported what he found.

(more)

Flint man discovers military grade explosives concealed in a car door (November 21, 2022)

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wrenchwench  Sep 8, 2023 • 5:59:54pm

re: #20 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Reminds me of something I have been thinking about. Texas has about 14 times New Mexico’s population. New Mexico is also the only state bordering Texas that has relatively enlightened abortion laws. Forced birth vigilante groups have already published maps showing the likely routes into New Mexico from the Texas population centers. Many of these go through Lubbock. After all Lubbock’s nickname (the Hub City) refers to the convergence of roads there. Lubbock is also the closest sizable city to the largest city in eastern New Mexico, Clovis. Lubbock may therefore see an influx of vigilantes, bounty hunters and even terrorists looking to shut down the abortion route into New Mexico. They are likely to make Lubbock’s seedy motels, saloons and Baptist gun-churches even sleazier than they already are.

Could be time for alternate routes. OK, CO, Raton; or El Paso, Juarez, Las Cruces (which has clinics), or my favorite route, fix the damn laws. That’s the lllloooooonnng route.

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jeffreyw  Sep 8, 2023 • 6:02:20pm

Mastodon

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jaunte  Sep 8, 2023 • 6:03:01pm

re: #20 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Mexico decriminalized abortion, so the vigilantes will have a harder time.
apnews.com

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wrenchwench  Sep 8, 2023 • 6:05:14pm

re: #24 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Then there’s this from Flint, Mich. (WJRT-TV., with photographs)

(more)

Flint man discovers military grade explosives concealed in a car door (November 21, 2022)

Salvage yard purchases should get a good scrutiny before payment.

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CleverToad  Sep 8, 2023 • 6:06:33pm

re: #159 Vicious Babushka

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wrenchwench  Sep 8, 2023 • 6:07:32pm

re: #27 jaunte

Mexico decriminalized abortion, so the vigilantes will have a harder time.
apnews.com

I’m sure Juarez will soon have more clinics than Las Cruces. It has about 10 times the population.

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2023 • 6:10:58pm

re: #30 wrenchwench

I’m sure Juarez will soon have more clinics than Las Cruces. It has about 10 times the population.

There will be people attempting to stand across the road to keep women from leaving.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Sep 8, 2023 • 6:11:30pm

re: #20 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

What I’m getting at is that I can see Lubbock as a kind of wild west border town between Free America (New Mexico) and fascist America (Texas).
There may be more to it than abortion too. Depending on whether the repugs can destroy democracy and retain power in Texas, eastern New Mexico could become a haven for drag shows, legal Marijuana, secular publishing and rigorous historic and scientific education. They may pass laws requiring New Mexico colleges to conceal the identities of Texas students, for example.
There may be a good dystopian SF story in it in fact.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Sep 8, 2023 • 6:17:55pm

re: #31 Belafon

There will be people attempting to stand across the road to keep women from leaving.

Abbott and his forces can do more to block the international border than they can the state line, though I have no doubt they will try.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 8, 2023 • 6:20:07pm

re: #28 wrenchwench

Salvage yard purchases should get a good scrutiny before payment.

I didn’t see an update on that article.

It appears he called the police, and the police called ATF. The lot and serial numbers are on the bricks of C4, so they should be traceable to a particular armoury. Assuming the armourer didn’t gundeck the paperwork, the ATF should be able to figure out when the C4 disappeared.

As for the car door, the magic of VINs means the state should be able to trace every owner since the car was new, narrow it down to the single owner at the time the C4 went missing, then look him or her up and give them a really bad time about it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 8, 2023 • 6:23:08pm

re: #33 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Abbott and his forces can do more to block the international border than they can the state line, though I have no doubt they will try.

Coutts, Alberta, and yet somehow dumber.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Sep 8, 2023 • 6:23:45pm

re: #30 wrenchwench

I’m sure Juarez will soon have more clinics than Las Cruces. It has about 10 times the population.

Clovis is quite a bit closer to DFW than El Paso and Juarez are (430 vs 620 miles). I don’t know what Clovis has in the way of clinics but it wouldn’t take long to set some up.

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darthstar  Sep 8, 2023 • 6:26:25pm

Mastodon

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wrenchwench  Sep 8, 2023 • 6:28:27pm

re: #36 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Clovis is quite a bit closer to DFW than El Paso and Juarez are (430 vs 620 miles). I don’t know what Clovis has in the way of clinics but it wouldn’t take long to set some up.

And one at Cannon Air Force Base!

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 8, 2023 • 6:30:18pm
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darthstar  Sep 8, 2023 • 6:30:48pm

Mastodon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 8, 2023 • 6:31:09pm

re: #36 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Clovis is quite a bit closer to DFW than El Paso and Juarez are (430 vs 620 miles). I don’t know what Clovis has in the way of clinics but it wouldn’t take long to set some up.

There are thirteen total providers in New Mexico. None are in Clovis.

abortionfinder.org

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wrenchwench  Sep 8, 2023 • 6:48:54pm

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

There are thirteen total providers in New Mexico. None are in Clovis.

abortionfinder.org

Yet.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Sep 8, 2023 • 6:51:20pm

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

There are thirteen total providers in New Mexico. None are in Clovis.

abortionfinder.org

re: #42 wrenchwench

Yet.

The mass exodus of Texas doctors and nurses won’t have far to go.

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Captain Ron  Sep 8, 2023 • 6:51:50pm
The dart-like DU rod inside a NATO-standard 105mm or 120mm shell is approximately as thick as a finger and as long as a bowling pin.

Damnit, now I’m going to be measuring things in bowling pins (15 inches). Going to have to convert everything measured in Emperor Penguins to bowling pins, too.

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Nerdy Fish  Sep 8, 2023 • 6:54:37pm

re: #44 Captain Ron

Damnit, now I’m going to be measuring things in bowling pins (15 inches). Going to have to convert everything measured in Emperor Penguins to bowling pins, too.

So what I’m hearing you say is that furlongs per fortnight is making a comeback.///

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piratedan  Sep 8, 2023 • 6:56:26pm

re: #31 Belafon

to be honest, you don’t have to go thru Lubbock, the road into Roswell is perfectly decent and from there, multiple decent sized towns are reachable

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2023 • 7:03:47pm

re: #14 jaunte

How many thousands of songs have Leland Sklar and Russ Kunkel played on?

A Gazillion.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 8, 2023 • 7:05:23pm

Looks like Extreme dropped a new video

Extreme - “The Mask” (Official Video)

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2023 • 7:06:03pm

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

What I’m getting at is that I can see Lubbock as a kind of wild west border town between Free America (New Mexico) and fascist America (Texas).
There may be more to it than abortion too. Depending on whether the repugs can destroy democracy and retain power in Texas, eastern New Mexico could become a haven for drag shows, legal Marijuana, secular publishing and rigorous historic and scientific education. They may pass laws requiring New Mexico colleges to conceal the identities of Texas students, for example.
There may be a good dystopian SF story in it in fact.

Guess who’s going to run out of water, first?

Keep growing that cotton, Lubbuttock!

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Sep 8, 2023 • 7:12:38pm

re: #46 piratedan

to be honest, you don’t have to go thru Lubbock, the road into Roswell is perfectly decent and from there, multiple decent sized towns are reachable

Roswell is almost due west of Lubbock and a fair amount farther from both DFW and Albuquerque than Clovis.

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2023 • 7:14:36pm

re: #45 Nerdy Fish

So what I’m hearing you say is that furlongs per fortnight is making a comeback.///

As are fetlocks per furlong.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Sep 8, 2023 • 7:22:45pm

re: #49 austin_blue

Guess who’s going to run out of water, first?

Keep growing that cotton, Lubbuttock!

I had the dubious privilege of reading Lubbock’s grandiose hundred year water plan a few years ago. Among other things they plan to build another artificial lake upstream of Lubbock on the Brazos, ignoring that there isn’t enough flow now to keep the existing reservoirs full. The plan does not even consider climate change, since the planners were explicitly forbidden to do so. The plan is a fig leaf for what the local hucksters know will happen: the place will run out of water and revert to desert before the end of the century. They are just hoping to conceal this long enough to make some dough from the unsuspecting, cash out, and get the hell out.
In a hundred years Lubbock will be a lumpy sand dune with space cleared for the Buddy Holly statue.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 8, 2023 • 7:27:41pm

blast from the past in 1978, a WEBN album project in Cincinnati

Music Sex And Cookies-George Uetz.wmv

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Egregious Philbin  Sep 8, 2023 • 7:50:17pm

re: #30 wrenchwench

Los Algodones, right on the AZ/CA border, I hope they start up some clinics there.

Great place to go for dentists, eye doctors, medicine, etc.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 8, 2023 • 7:56:40pm

Internet very erratic tonight. Seems to be an ISP problem. Likely Cox is futzing with something on a Friday night.

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piratedan  Sep 8, 2023 • 8:04:51pm

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

I’ve driven that road between DFW and Tucson and bopped thru Roswell, we’re talking driving thru the likes of Snyder and Plains and it is doable in six hours. I have no idea if there’s an abortion provider in Roswell or not but the idea that all traffic going to New Mexico has to route thru Lubbock is ludicrous. In going off the beaten path off of the interstates into Eastern New Mexico, there’s always the plausible destination of Carlsbad Caverns and there are more than a few towns in that section of the state that may have care (Carlsbad, Artesia, Roswell, Alamagordo, Las Cruces). There’s more to Texas than just the Dallas/Fort Worth metroplex and I suspect that there may be women in Abilene, Big Spring etc also looking for a way out to get the care that they need.

Yes, Lubbock is an asshat of a town (true of many places in Texas imho) but it is not fucking Mordor.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 8, 2023 • 8:05:58pm

re: #8 wrenchwench

They have a good governor in NM.

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Whenever our brother brings up bloodshed in Chicago, I pin the blame on the NRA and Republicans. It is thanks to them, that our nation is awash in gun violence. SCOTUS bears much of this responsibility. This will never be solved as long as SCOTUS is a GOP stronghold. Only the removal of 2 GOP justices before the end of the year and their replacement by Biden selections will lead to our finally beginning to reverse the damage inflicted on this nation by the Rehnquist/Roberts courts.

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2023 • 8:06:20pm

re: #52 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

I had the dubious privilege of reading Lubbock’s grandiose hundred year water plan a few years ago. Among other things they plan to build another artificial lake upstream of Lubbock on the Brazos, ignoring that there isn’t enough flow now to keep the existing reservoirs full. The plan does not even consider climate change, since the planners were explicitly forbidden to do so. The plan is a fig leaf for what the local hucksters know will happen: the place will run out of water and revert to desert before the end of the century. They are just hoping to conceal this long enough to make some dough from the unsuspecting, cash out, and get the hell out.
In a hundred years Lubbock will be a lumpy sand dune with space cleared for the Buddy Holly statue.

Yeah, that’s what happens when you don’t control to whom the water belongs. I gotta best friend here in Austin who grew up in Anton. His dad owned a family chunk of land, 2,000 acres, and was an almost ace (4 1/2 kills) flying P-51 Mustangs in WW2. He bought a retired Allison 1720 HP V-12 engine, modified it to be a water pump, and sucked up all that sweet, free, Ogalalla water underneath his dirt to irrigate his cotton- for almost 55 years, and fuck the neighbors.

As did all of his neighbors. They had to deepen their extraction wells every once in a while, sure.

Depth-to-water has dropped well over one to four hundred feet and the salt content of the groundwater has risen to the point where it has started poisonIng the arable ground. In just half a century, Pleistocene fossil water reserves, deposited over tens of thousands of years were removed from the subsurface, never to be replenished until humans either quit being so FUCKING stupid, or are removed from the planet.

They did make make a shitpot of money, though, as boll weevils could not survive the winters in the High Plains, which is why cotton farmers moved there en masse from east Texas, whose farmers switched to soybeans.

We are the most wasteful, short-sighted organisms on the planet.

There are times when I beg for for Alice Sheldon’s (aka James K. Tiptree) The Screwfly Solution.

Night all, sweet self-inflected-wounds dreams.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 8, 2023 • 8:10:12pm

NightCafe is running a competition sponsored by RAZAR - never heard of them before - with some nice prizes.

Requirement: fantasy landscape, 16:9 format.

I can get what I want using Playground, but can’t using NightCafe. Sigh.

What I can get out of Playground:

SDXL landscape of stars, people
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teleskiguy  Sep 8, 2023 • 8:14:41pm

Last night belongs in my collection of “too much fun” experiences. Besides the sheer beauty of the surroundings and the perfect weather, the best part about this venue was there is no cell phone service up there. I flew solo yet talked with other humans constantly while I was there. It was a gathering of 1,000 best friends. Umphrey’s McGee saved my life.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 8, 2023 • 8:16:04pm
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retired cynic  Sep 8, 2023 • 8:16:19pm

re: #60 teleskiguy

I am so glad!

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2023 • 8:17:27pm

re: #56 piratedan

I’ve driven that road between DFW and Tucson and bopped thru Roswell, we’re talking driving thru the likes of Snyder and Plains and it is doable in six hours. I have no idea if there’s an abortion provider in Roswell or not but the idea that all traffic going to New Mexico has to route thru Lubbock is ludicrous. In going off the beaten path off of the interstates into Eastern New Mexico, there’s always the plausible destination of Carlsbad Caverns and there are more than a few towns in that section of the state that may have care (Carlsbad, Artesia, Roswell, Alamagordo, Las Cruces). There’s more to Texas than just the Dallas/Fort Worth metroplex and I suspect that there may be women in Abilene, Big Spring etc also looking for a way out to get the care that they need.

Yes, Lubbock is an asshat of a town (true of many places in Texas imho) but it is not fucking Mordor.

Give it time dude. They are on a Vincent Black Lightning, rocketing into a Black Hole.

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teleskiguy  Sep 8, 2023 • 8:19:47pm

re: #62 retired cynic

I wrote their logo on my leg back in August 2020.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Sep 8, 2023 • 8:26:40pm

re: #56 piratedan

I’ve driven that road between DFW and Tucson and bopped thru Roswell, we’re talking driving thru the likes of Snyder and Plains and it is doable in six hours. I have no idea if there’s an abortion provider in Roswell or not but the idea that all traffic going to New Mexico has to route thru Lubbock is ludicrous. In going off the beaten path off of the interstates into Eastern New Mexico, there’s always the plausible destination of Carlsbad Caverns and there are more than a few towns in that section of the state that may have care (Carlsbad, Artesia, Roswell, Alamagordo, Las Cruces). There’s more to Texas than just the Dallas/Fort Worth metroplex and I suspect that there may be women in Abilene, Big Spring etc also looking for a way out to get the care that they need.

Yes, Lubbock is an asshat of a town (true of many places in Texas imho) but it is not fucking Mordor.

There is no provider in Roswell, though that is likely to change.
Nobody suggested that all traffic to New Mexico has to route through Lubbock. It is a good way to Albuquerque and points beyond, via Clovis, and likely to be heavily traveled, which is, after all, my original qualification.

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2023 • 8:26:59pm

Oh, and atmospheric fluid dynamics has torn Lee apart from the west and SW. Down to 100 knots.

Good. Bullet dodged.

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EPR-radar  Sep 8, 2023 • 8:34:25pm

re: #61 DodgerFan1988

She’s just the Mouth of Musk. The media should really start referring to her as that. Including a helpful screen shot from the LOTR films to jog peoples’ memories.

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piratedan  Sep 8, 2023 • 8:36:07pm

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Understand, but I’m guessing until Roe is restored or even replaced by something even more pro-women’s bodily autonomy, we could certainly see the popping up of Abortion providers all over the Land of Enchantment. Not going to allege that eastern New Mexico is some liberal mecca, but as you’ve mentioned, being able to practice in relative safety under the aegis of Government and Federal sanction means that it’s likely that something may happen.

I just want women to get the care they need, be it abortion services, contraceptives or even just planned parenthood counselling. If Texas won’t do it or allow it, then people will go and find it where they can. We’re going to see a repeat of certain states becoming medical care deserts akin to when states refused the ACA funding and caused all of the rural health care facilities to shut down.

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Captain Ron  Sep 8, 2023 • 8:39:19pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 8, 2023 • 8:42:01pm

re: #39 DodgerFan1988

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I doubt most Americans could actually tell you what year “The Star-Spangled Banner” was adopted as the national anthem, probably most have been brainwashed by decades of unfiltered nationalism to believe it was there since the very beginning and the Founders themselves signed off on it. Much like the Pledge of Allegiance, which they believe has always included “God” in it.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Sep 8, 2023 • 8:44:15pm

re: #68 piratedan

Understand, but I’m guessing until Roe is restored or even replaced by something even more pro-women’s bodily autonomy, we could certainly see the popping up of Abortion providers all over the Land of Enchantment. Not going to allege that eastern New Mexico is some liberal mecca, but as you’ve mentioned, being able to practice in relative safety under the aegis of Government and Federal sanction means that it’s likely that something may happen.

I just want women to get the care they need, be it abortion services, contraceptives or even just planned parenthood counselling. If Texas won’t do it or allow it, then people will go and find it where they can. We’re going to see a repeat of certain states becoming medical care deserts akin to when states refused the ACA funding and caused all of the rural health care facilities to shut down.

Agree 100%. Btw, I was just thinking about how odd it is to be considering basically conservative places like Clovis, Roswell and Hobbs as potential refuges from conservative oppression but that’s where events might take us.
Our real hope is to turn Texas blue, which will happen if Republican gerrymandering and voter suppression can be overcome.

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wrenchwench  Sep 8, 2023 • 8:53:35pm

re: #71 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Agree 100%. Btw, I was just thinking about how odd it is to be considering basically conservative places like Clovis, Roswell and Hobbs as potential refuges from conservative oppression but that’s where events might take us.
Our real hope is to turn Texas blue, which will happen if Republican gerrymandering and voter suppression can be overcome.

At the risk of repeating my redundancy, I’ll say again that El Paso should be part of New Mexico, and eastern NM can go to Texas. Except Carlsbad.

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teleskiguy  Sep 8, 2023 • 8:54:25pm

re: #70 Targetpractice

Much like the Pledge of Allegiance, which they believe has always included “God” in it.

The Cold War was a hell of a time.

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teleskiguy  Sep 8, 2023 • 8:59:02pm

I was nine years old when the Cold War ended.

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Jay C  Sep 8, 2023 • 9:00:12pm

re: #70 Targetpractice

I doubt most Americans could actually tell you what year “The Star-Spangled Banner” was adopted as the national anthem, probably most have been brainwashed by decades of unfiltered nationalism to believe it was there since the very beginning and the Founders themselves signed off on it. Much like the Pledge of Allegiance, which they believe has always included “God” in it.

Click to Reveal

IIRC, while it had been around since the early 19th Century, SSB was only made the official national anthem in 1931. Supposedly Robert Ripley (the “Believe It Or Not” guy) led the campaign to have it formally adopted.

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Targetpractice  Sep 8, 2023 • 9:02:42pm

re: #73 teleskiguy

The Cold War was a hell of a time.

We’ve never really left the Cold War, we just lifted up the “Enemies of All That is Good And Right” plaque and have moved it to suit our current needs. Yesterday it was the “Axis of Evil,” today it’s China. Tomorrow it’ll be another “evil” country because many of our fellow Americans cannot function without someone to hate.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Sep 8, 2023 • 9:07:52pm

I’m enjoying the new season of Lower Decks.

Moopsy
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Belafon  Sep 8, 2023 • 9:15:24pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 8, 2023 • 9:17:04pm

re: #73 teleskiguy

The Cold War was a hell of a time.

Indeed it was. I’m a few years too young to have had the “duck and cover” shit in grade school, but it still amounted to decades of US vs. USSR shit where you had to hope the leaders on both sides didn’t get any stupid ideas, such as how a nuclear war might be winnable.

That said, it would appear that Putin’s Russia is no improvement over the old Soviet Union in terms of civil and human rights for its people.

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EPR-radar  Sep 8, 2023 • 9:18:37pm

re: #76 Targetpractice

We’ve never really left the Cold War, we just lifted up the “Enemies of All That is Good And Right” plaque and have moved it to suit our current needs. Yesterday it was the “Axis of Evil,” today it’s China. Tomorrow it’ll be another “evil” country because many of our fellow Americans cannot function without someone to hate.

The most tangible sign in the US that the old Cold War ended is that as soon as the Soviet Union fell, the US plutocracy said “OK. Now it’s time to make all of that Soviet propaganda about the evils of capitalism come true.”

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2023 • 9:22:34pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 8, 2023 • 9:26:54pm

re: #76 Targetpractice

*Nigel in Austin Powers*

“…and the Dutch!”

That line has always stuck with me.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Sep 8, 2023 • 9:32:50pm

re: #80 EPR-radar

The most tangible sign in the US that the old Cold War ended is that as soon as the Soviet Union fell, the US plutocracy said “OK. Now it’s time to make all of that Soviet propaganda about the evils of capitalism come true.”

I’ve thought for a long time that the fear of communism was what kept rapacious capitalists in line. It was certainly the reason the aristocrats who ran Scandinavia barely a century ago allowed the reforms that led to the mutually beneficial partnership of socialism and capitalism that we see today.
I also think it was a factor in the creation of the New Deal, along with a more openly expressed fear of fascism. It was almost as though FDR was saying, “Okay, fellow millionaires, you can either deal with me or you can deal with the Bolsheviks. Which will it be?”

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 8, 2023 • 9:44:15pm

re: #77 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

I’m enjoying the new season of Lower Decks.

Star Trek: Lower Decks: Moopsy.

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Targetpractice  Sep 8, 2023 • 9:48:46pm

re: #81 Belafon

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That’s late-stage capitalism for you: People will defend keeping wages artificially low by repeating corporate BS about how if businesses are asked to accept a smaller profit margin to pay their workers more than they’ll just close up shop and walk away, but then endlessly bitch when inconvenienced by those same businesses firing employees and cutting services to pad those same profit margins.

I think I mentioned this in the distant past, but the company that bought our hotel from Marriott doesn’t normally have night auditors. Our sister location 10 minutes drive from here has no office staff after 11pm, if you need something like a keycard or a fresh towel then you’re SOL until the first shift comes on at 7am the following morning. The only reason we still have auditors at this location is because the GM fought to keep us on very flimsy argument that having a person on-location raises approval ratings. Really, she could come in tomorrow and inform me that I’ve been fired/transferred and night audit is no more and the hotel would lose little other than someone for guests to bitch at during the overnight hours.

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EPR-radar  Sep 8, 2023 • 9:50:54pm

re: #83 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

I’ve thought for a long time that the fear of communism was what kept rapacious capitalists in line. It was certainly the reason the aristocrats who ran Scandinavia barely a century ago allowed the reforms that led to the mutually beneficial partnership of socialism and capitalism that we see today.
I also think it was a factor in the creation of the New Deal, along with a more openly expressed fear of fascism. It was almost as though FDR was saying, “Okay, fellow millionaires, you can either deal with me or you can deal with the Bolsheviks. Which will it be?”

Absolutely. And what we’ve seen since the New Deal era is that a significant fraction of the US plutocracy will never forgive FDR et al. for saving them from a likely communist revolution.

There is no resentment as deep as the resentment of assholes forcibly saved from the consequences of their own asshole behavior.

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darthstar  Sep 8, 2023 • 10:01:48pm

Mastodon

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darthstar  Sep 8, 2023 • 10:02:51pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

I was nine years old when the Cold War ended.

Wait…it’s over?

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darthstar  Sep 8, 2023 • 10:03:45pm

re: #69 Captain Ron

My Lumpy-ass Pillow.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 8, 2023 • 10:14:49pm

re: #81 Belafon

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There are plenty of people poor enough that they would be willing to serve, but we would have to let them into the country.

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darthstar  Sep 8, 2023 • 10:16:03pm

journa.host

Mastodon

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darthstar  Sep 8, 2023 • 10:17:06pm

re: #91 darthstar

journa.host
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Gah! I fucked that up. My response was to this post.

Mastodon

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darthstar  Sep 8, 2023 • 10:18:57pm

Mastodon

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Targetpractice  Sep 8, 2023 • 10:19:21pm

re: #90 No Malarkey!

There are plenty of people poor enough that they would be willing to serve, but we would have to let them into the country.

I’ve been watching political commentary lately on the failures of Brexit and the Tories crumbling chances of avoiding a massive blow-out when elections are next called. And you could honestly change a few words and hear the exact same bitching and “proposals” as you hear here in the US from the GQP: “Nobody wants to work!” and “We need to get children/seniors/disabled/etc people in the workforce!”

Oddly enough, both our countries have also made it virtually impossible for people to migrate here legally and are engaged in an endless crusade to keep asylum seekers out as “illegals.” I’m sure there’s no connection there with the “labor shortages”…./////

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 8, 2023 • 10:45:36pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

I was nine years old when the Cold War ended.

I have a certificate from the Department of Defense thanking my for my service as part of the Navy during the Cold War.

Y’all are making me feel old again. /s

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 8, 2023 • 10:48:01pm
A strong earthquake of magnitude 6.8 has struck central Morocco, killing at least 296 people, the country’s interior ministry says.

The epicentre was in the High Atlas Mountains, 71km (44 miles) south-west of Marrakesh, at a depth of 18.5km, the US Geological Survey said.

The quake struck at 23:11 local time (22:11 GMT). There was a 4.9 aftershock 19 minutes later.

People died in Marrakesh and several areas to the south, the ministry said.

“According to a provisional report, the earthquake killed 296 people in the provinces and municipalities of al-Haouz, Marrakesh, Ouarzazate, Azilal, Chichaoua and Taroudant,” the statement said, adding that 153 people were injured and hospitalised.

bbc.com

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Targetpractice  Sep 8, 2023 • 11:00:24pm

re: #92 darthstar

Gah! I fucked that up. My response was to this post.

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So he won’t cut ties with Ukraine, he won’t refund any of the money he’s received to provide them service, he won’t exit entirely from the market in some sort of protest against the war…but he will happily cut service when it’s most inconvenient for Ukraine so he can pretend he has moral objections to the war. A forensic check of his finances will probably turn up some interestingly timed payments…

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 8, 2023 • 11:00:49pm

re: #58 austin_blue

The Screwfly Solution is one of the most disturbing SF stories every written.

I’ve only read it once but I still shiver at the memory of it.

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 8, 2023 • 11:06:23pm

re: #80 EPR-radar

It’s amazing that the people most opposed to Marxism work the hardest to prove it is right about capitalism.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2023 • 11:42:01pm

re: #90 No Malarkey!

There are plenty of people poor enough that they would be willing to serve, but we would have to let them into the country.

THIS is the root of all those problems. All of them. Every bitch that every person had about service jobs (and servants, really). The people willing to work for pennies aren’t getting in, and if they are getting in, they’re not going en masse to places that want them dead. Even desperate people aren’t always that desperate.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2023 • 12:16:22am

The death toll from the earthquake in Morocco is now over 600: theguardian.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2023 • 12:32:35am

TechCrunch, yesterday

X, formerly Twitter, challenges California’s new transparency law as unconstitutional

X, formerly known as Twitter, has filed a lawsuit alleging that a new California law requiring social networks to declare certain moderation practices is a violation of the company’s Constitutional right to free speech.

AB 587 was signed into law a year ago. At the time, California Governor Gavin Newsom wrote: “Californians deserve to know how these platforms are impacting our public discourse, and this action brings much-needed transparency and accountability to the policies that shape the social media content we consume every day.”

The law requires social media companies to publicly detail moderation practices around hate speech, racism, extremism, disinformation, harassment and foreign political interference. How these concepts are defined, how rules around them are enforced and what users can do to better understand (and if necessary, challenge) the pertinent processes must be submitted twice a year starting in 2024.

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ericblair  Sep 9, 2023 • 12:34:49am

re: #97 Targetpractice

So he won’t cut ties with Ukraine, he won’t refund any of the money he’s received to provide them service, he won’t exit entirely from the market in some sort of protest against the war…but he will happily cut service when it’s most inconvenient for Ukraine so he can pretend he has moral objections to the war. A forensic check of his finances will probably turn up some interestingly timed payments…

I’m waiting for us to find out that he gave Ukrainian position and network traffic information from Starlink to the Russian military.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2023 • 12:44:05am
Mohamed, a resident in Marrakesh, said that he was in his apartment on the third floor of his building when the earthquake happened.

“It suddenly and violently started shaking. I escaped and was safe … Only books or pieces of art fell from the shelves,” he said.

He said: “Many old buildings were collapsed in the old city of Marrakesh. The suburbs of Marrakesh were hugely affected by the earthquake. Most of casualties are recorded in the surrounding rural communes and outskirts.”

aljazeera.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2023 • 1:00:04am

re: #69 Captain Ron

MyPillow founder and MAGA conspiracy theorist Mike Lindell will have you know his pillows are not “lumpy,” and don’t you dare suggest otherwise. “Lumpy pillows? Kiss my a—. Put that in your book,” he said in footage of one deposition.

More proof of Jewish media ruining a Right Wing business

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2023 • 1:04:19am

This dipshyte is a fookin’ foreign agent and national security risk

Financial Time * 17h

Elon Musk gave biographer top Ukrainian official’s confidential messages without permission

on.ft.com

Article is paywalled. Link goes to BlueSky.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2023 • 1:10:53am

Gab is down. I think I’ll get some rum in celebration.

Bad gateway

The web server reported a bad gateway error.

Ray ID: 803df0cbba12e28b
Your IP address: 97.119.68.207
Error reference number: 502
Cloudflare Location: Chicago

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2023 • 1:15:24am

re: #103 ericblair

I’m waiting for us to find out that he gave Ukrainian position and network traffic information from Starlink to the Russian military.

Wouldn’t be at all surprising, would it?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2023 • 1:17:17am

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Gab is down. I think I’ll get some rum in celebration.

More surprising is that Gab is still a thing and has been up all this time.

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silverdolphin  Sep 9, 2023 • 1:19:57am

5th Circuit finds Biden White House, CDC likely violated First Amendment

Apparently, according the nutball 5th Circuit, it is totally free speech to yell fire in a theater and bear no government “coercion” to be quiet. Conservatives really do see the Constitution as a suicide pact.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2023 • 1:23:00am

re: #110 silverdolphin

Apparently, according the nutball 5th Circuit, it is totally free speech to yell fire in a theater and bear no government “coercion” to be quiet. Conservatives really do see the Constitution as a suicide pact.

That’s because they see the Constitution as Scripture, like the Bible.

The only interpretation that’s valid is their interpretation, which conveniently benefits them.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2023 • 1:28:49am

These douchecanoes would rather burn everything down and rule over the ashes than give up a single iota of power to anyone else.

Utah Sen. Mike Lee calls for defunding the U.S. military amid abortion policy debate (Salt Lake Tribune


Utah Sen. Mike Lee — who has used his personal “BasedMikeLee” X account to claim the flooding that trapped thousands of people at the Burning Man festival was “God’s judgment” and to spread conspiracy theories about COVID-related lockdowns — is now taking aim at the Department of Defense.

In a Thursday night social media rampage, Utah’s senior senator called for cutting off funding to the U.S. military.

Lee has vigorously defended Alabama Sen. Tommy Tuberville’s month-long blockade of hundreds of military promotions to force the Biden administration to rescind a policy to provide leave and reimburse travel expenses for service members and their families to travel to other states for abortions. Service members cannot choose where they are stationed and may be stationed in a state that does not allow abortions after the Supreme Court’s ruling overturning Roe v. Wade last year.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2023 • 1:42:27am

Montana weather.

Mastodon

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Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2023 • 1:46:17am

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

These douchecanoes would rather burn everything down and rule over the ashes than give up a single iota of power to anyone else.

Utah Sen. Mike Lee calls for defunding the U.S. military amid abortion policy debate (Salt Lake Tribune

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Oh, if I had a nickel for every time these same assholes screamed back in the day that anything less than total devotion to Pres Dubya was tantamount to treason because “THE TERRORISTS WIN!!!”

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Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2023 • 1:56:19am

re: #110 silverdolphin

5th Circuit finds Biden White House, CDC likely violated First Amendment

Apparently, according the nutball 5th Circuit, it is totally free speech to yell fire in a theater and bear no government “coercion” to be quiet. Conservatives really do see the Constitution as a suicide pact.

The second paragraph is really the operative one:

“The decision was likely to be seen as victory for conservatives who’ve long argued that social media platforms’ content moderation efforts restrict their free speech rights.”

This is where we are as a country. “You don’t like the rules? Don’t spend time working to change them, just keep shopping cases from judge to judge until you find one that will agree that the rules don’t apply to you.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2023 • 2:29:26am

Some interesting characters have been conversing with me over at BlueSky. Some are here at LGF, and others are why I have such a wild timeline.

The people this week talking with me at BlueSky
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2023 • 2:45:41am

This comet was discovered a month ago.

Stargazing fans, it’s time to get to get excited because a “once-in-a-lifetime” opportunity to see a comet shooting through space is coming up.

Comet Nishimura - or or C/2023 P1 to use its official name - will be flying past the Earth at 240,000 miles per hour early on Tuesday 12 September.

The comet takes around 437 years to do one lap of our solar system - for reference it takes Earth one year.

“To say this is a once in a lifetime opportunity to see Nishimura isn’t an exaggeration.” said Professor Brad Gibson, the director of the astrophysics centre at the University of Hull.

Astronomers think the comet will be visible to the naked eye, so you won’t need a telescope to be able to see it.

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Comet Nishimura: ‘Once-in-a-lifetime’ chance to see it (BBC, yesterday)

Astronomers have said that the best time to see the comet pass by Earth will be just before dawn, around 4-6am on Tuesday 12 September.

It will appear in the north-east of the sky, near to Venus as it flies 78 million miles above us.

“On average, people have the chance to see such a naked eye comet once a decade - this is a rare and exciting opportunity.” said Professor Brad Gibson.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2023 • 3:09:53am

That 6.8 Mw earthquake that hit Morocco earlier today has now left 820 dead, according to officials.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2023 • 3:26:04am

In the Eastern Pacific, Tropical Storm Jova is starting to weaken. It is expected to become a remnant next week.

BULLETIN
Tropical Storm Jova Advisory Number 19
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP112023
200 AM PDT Sat Sep 09 2023

…TROPICAL STORM JOVA SLOWLY SPINNING DOWN…
…DANGEROUS COASTAL CONDITIONS ALONG THE COASTS OF
CALIFORNIA AND MEXICO ARE OCCURING…

SUMMARY OF 200 AM PDT…0900 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————
LOCATION…21.5N 124.6W
ABOUT 945 MI…1520 KM W OF THE SOUTHERN TIP OF BAJA CALIFORNIA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…70 MPH…110 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…WNW OR 300 DEGREES AT 13 MPH…20 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…986 MB…29.12 INCHES

Meanwhile in the Western Atlantic, Hurricane Lee is still a major hurricane. The storm’s eye opened up yesterday, which weakened the storm.

Hurricane Lee Advisory Number 16
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132023
500 AM AST Sat Sep 09 2023

…LEE MAINTAINS MAJOR HURRICANE STATUS WHILE MOVING
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD…
…HAZARDOUS BEACH CONDITIONS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP AROUND THE WESTERN
ATLANTIC THROUGH NEXT WEEK…

SUMMARY OF 500 AM AST…0900 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————
LOCATION…19.7N 57.4W
ABOUT 385 MI…620 KM ENE OF THE NORTHERN LEEWARD ISLANDS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…115 MPH…185 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…WNW OR 295 DEGREES AT 12 MPH…19 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…963 MB…28.44 INCHES

Hurricane Lee Tracking Chart

Lee is expected to weaken further below major hurricane strength, but by 2PM Sunday ADT reintensify to a major hurricane as it tracks WNW, then more to the north.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sep 9, 2023 • 3:30:45am

re: #8 wrenchwench

Sure, let’s punish law-abiding citizens for the actions of criminals we can’t stop, that way we can pretend we’re “doing something”.

Might as well suspend everyone’s driver’s license next time some idiot drives drunk and slams head-on into a school bus, right?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2023 • 3:45:41am

re: #121 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Sure, let’s punish law-abiding citizens for the actions of criminals we can’t stop, that way we can pretend we’re “doing something”.

Might as well suspend everyone’s driver’s license next time some idiot drives drunk and slams head-on into a school bus, right?

Perhaps the problem is law-abiding includes the word “carry.” As in open- and concealed-. As in any person with a pulse and the right age can open- and conceal-carry.

A peer nation with strict laws (Japan) saw a total of four people killed by firearms last year.

I have no doubt her emergency health order (and firearms deaths in this country are an epidemic) will be challenged by the usual suspects (the NRA, the GOP, Gun Owners of America, &c).

In the meantime, if you are carrying openly or concealed under the current order, you are not law-abiding.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2023 • 3:50:27am

re: #122 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“There’s a pandemic going around, and it’s killing lots of people. Let’s impose restrictions on large gatherings like concerts or churches.”

“Sure, lets punish law-abiding music-lovers and Christians because some dummies are spreading a disease.”

Same argument.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2023 • 3:55:50am

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I eagerly await some wingnut to try the “find out” phase of this.

A couple years ago, over a debate regarding a statewide red flag bill, “law-abiding open-carry enthusiasts” flooded the state capitol building with semi-automatic rifles, because open-carry is legal here and they were all law-abiding.

Nevertheless, the terrorists shut down our state capitol. I hope the Rethugs were properly terrified by the laws they passed.

Similarly in Michigan, law-abiding open-carry enthusiasts flooded the state capitol in Lansing with semi-automatic rifles, also legally, also terrifying the state legislature.

It’s noteworthy the NRA bans open and concealed carry at their events. As all conservatives, they have the right to intimidate or kill you, but you don’t have the same right.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2023 • 4:04:47am

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Insisting on open- or concealed-carry under all circumstances is treating the II Amendment like a suicide pact.

I feel perfectly fine never open-carrying my shotgun. I don’t see the need to intimidate people.

If I wanted to, I could absolutely do it in this state, especially since the state GOP passed a law banning city and village ordinances prohibiting local gun laws which exceed state law.

Some dipshyte now can carry an AR-15 openly in my village and until they shoot the first person, there is nothing anyone can do.

When people have a law that lets dipshytes do dipshyte things, that gets changed. It used to be legal to possess explosives in this country, until someone blew up the Bath Consolidated School in Michigan in the Twenties over a tax protest to fund the school. That was the worst mass-murder in a school at the time.

It was legal for him to buy all the explosives. He was a law-abiding citizen, until he decided to murder a bunch of children and teachers.

After that incident, it is now illegal for a farmer to walk into a hardware store and buy explosives to blow up tree stumps. No one can own explosives without licenses and extensive oversight.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 9, 2023 • 4:10:59am

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It turns out that the 2nd Amendment is a suicide pact.

The guys who wrote it at the time did not intend it to be so, they intended for states to have militias that could be called up in case of war.

But that was the 18th century.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sep 9, 2023 • 4:12:37am

re: #126 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Now do the 4th amendment.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 9, 2023 • 4:13:57am

re: #127 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Now do the 4th amendment.

Does law enforcement still follow it?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 9, 2023 • 4:15:08am

Blue Sky code for the first courageous soul to grab it:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 9, 2023 • 4:23:12am

The Apple world is all a twitter about the coming iPhones on Tuesday.

I just want an updated iMac.

Is that too much to ask?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Sep 9, 2023 • 4:27:27am

re: #98 Romantic Heretic

The Screwfly Solution is one of the most disturbing SF stories every written.

And not on Apple books or at Amazon (the have DVD of a movie); giant fan of disturbing SF.

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Nojay UK  Sep 9, 2023 • 4:29:51am

Which part of “social media posts on other people’s platforms aren’t a secret” do folks not understand?

Post on X/Twitter/MySpace/Usenet/Fred’s BBS and everyone who cares to look can read what you said, even if it’s tagged “private”. The owner and controller of the social media’s hardware and infrastructure has a lot more access to your outpourings than even you have (do you really think X will actually delete your posts if you ask nicely?)

If you don’t want your thoughts known to the world, don’t post ANYTHING on social media. Period.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2023 • 4:34:06am

re: #132 Nojay UK

Which part of “social media posts on other people’s platforms aren’t a secret” do folks not understand?

Post on X/Twitter/MySpace/Usenet/Fred’s BBS and everyone who cares to look can read what you said, even if it’s tagged “private”. The owner and controller of the social media’s hardware and infrastructure has a lot more access to your outpourings than even you have (do you really think X will actually delete your posts if you ask nicely?)

If you don’t want your thoughts known to the world, don’t post ANYTHING on social media. Period.

If Mr. Johnson here wanted to make trouble for a lot of us, all he has to do is throw a switch (well, it’s probably a bit more involved than that).

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Nojay UK  Sep 9, 2023 • 4:36:57am

re: #131 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

And not on Apple books or at Amazon (the have DVD of a movie); giant fan of disturbing SF.

It’s a short story, in one of the Tiptree/Sheldon collections (I can’t remember which one off the top of my head). The writings of James Tiptree Jr. are, ummm, “deprecated” these days after her murder of her terminally-ill husband became widely known in the SF community.

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William Lewis  Sep 9, 2023 • 4:42:30am

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Some interesting characters have been conversing with me over at BlueSky. Some are here at LGF, and others are why I have such a wild timeline.

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Mine has turned into a wild ride as well including scientists, lizards and sw’s. Hella lotta fun.

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2023 • 4:42:59am

re: #121 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Sure, let’s punish law-abiding citizens for the actions of criminals we can’t stop, that way we can pretend we’re “doing something”.

Might as well suspend everyone’s driver’s license next time some idiot drives drunk and slams head-on into a school bus, right?

If you’re going to make the analogy correct, you should at least do it right: this would be the equivalent of temporarily banning driving because of a drunk driver.

Personally, I find open carry unless you are law enforcement or security to be stupid, and concealed isn’t really any better.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Sep 9, 2023 • 4:45:09am

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2023 • 4:45:10am

re: #131 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

And not on Apple books or at Amazon (the have DVD of a movie); giant fan of disturbing SF.

I saw a copy of it at Barnes & Noble the other day.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 9, 2023 • 4:46:32am

Wife and I are off to spend the day registering fabulous voters. Some sort of pageant/variety show.

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William Lewis  Sep 9, 2023 • 4:49:07am

re: #139 Decatur Deb

Wife and I are off to spend the day registering fabulous voters. Some sort of pageant/variety show.

That’s an .. Interesting … way to describe it 🤣

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Sep 9, 2023 • 4:50:44am
New York Times: “Mr. Trump’s grip on the party’s voters is as powerful as ever, with polls in Iowa and New Hampshire last month putting him at least 25 percentage points above his nearest rivals.”

“That has left major Republican donors — whose desires have increasingly diverged from those of conservative voters — grappling with the reality that the tens of millions of dollars they have spent to try to stop the former president, fearing he poses a mortal threat to their party and the country, may already be a sunk cost

Shorter: Rich-ass Rs pissed that all their money isnt working.

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Nerdy Fish  Sep 9, 2023 • 4:59:19am

Wordle behind spoiler because, well, spoiler.

Click to Reveal

Yep, I certainly am.

Wordle 812 3/6

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 9, 2023 • 5:00:56am

re: #141 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

The money wants to push Haley but she has a hard time getting above 7% or 8% in any poll, and often does worse.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Sep 9, 2023 • 5:04:47am

re: #143 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The money wants to push Haley but she has a hard time getting above 7% or 8% in any poll, and often does worse.

It is interesting to watch them learn that their money isn’t all powerful

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Sep 9, 2023 • 5:07:07am

re: #144 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

It is interesting to watch them learn that their money isn’t all powerful

And apparently, PACs may not be all that…

Why Give Money to PACs?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 9, 2023 • 5:07:22am

re: #144 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

It is interesting to watch them learn that their money isn’t all powerful

It took decades for the religious right to turn the GOP into a machine for atavism.

That’s not going to be undone by a few million dollars.

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TarHellion  Sep 9, 2023 • 5:19:07am

re: #142 Nerdy Fish

Birbie and some Saturday morning bacon. Life is good!

Click to Reveal

Wordle 812 3/6*

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jeffreyw  Sep 9, 2023 • 5:23:32am

Pickle Onion Mustard

Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2023 • 5:23:59am

re: #130 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The Apple world is all a twitter about the coming iPhones on Tuesday.

I just want an updated iMac.

Is that too much to ask?

I want high speed Internet. Fibre would be nice. (Under Biden’s Infrastructure bill, fibre Internet service is being laid in Kimball County, two counties away. My county is using money to improve the pasture trail from my town to Alliance.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2023 • 5:31:51am

re: #127 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Now do the 4th amendment.

I’m not sure how you can argue the IV Amendment could be used as a suicide pact, since you can’t use it to justify purchasing rifles-of-mass-destruction and fire on a country music festival from a hotel room and murder scores of people and injure hundreds.

A zealous enforcement of the IV Amendment would have strict requirements to obtain search warrants or property seizure (good-bye civil asset forfeiture), prohibition of evidence obtained contrary to the amendment in a trial, &c.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2023 • 5:33:47am

re: #143 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The money wants to push Haley but she has a hard time getting above 7% or 8% in any poll, and often does worse.

Money can’t overcome the racism of the GOP.

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Thanos  Sep 9, 2023 • 5:35:58am

I know that everyone’s criticizing the 5th circuit this am, but I am honestly ok with the ruling since it does not stop government from asking for takedowns, it just stops them from ordering takedowns, which is how it should be.

But the court threw out broader language in an order that a Louisiana-based federal judge issued on July 4 that effectively blocked multiple government agencies from contacting platforms such as Facebook and X (formerly Twitter) to urge that content be taken down.

Even the appeals court’s softened order doesn’t take effect immediately. The administration has 10 days to seek a Supreme Court review.

Friday evening’s ruling came in a lawsuit filed in northeast Louisiana that accused administration officials of coercing platforms to take down content under the threat of possible antitrust actions or changes to federal law shielding them from lawsuits over their users’ posts.

Think about it this way: if a Biden admin has the power to censor social media, then a Trump admin has that power too…

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Sep 9, 2023 • 5:39:28am

re: #142 Nerdy Fish

Par for my today, should have been a birb
Wordle 812 4/6

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ericblair  Sep 9, 2023 • 5:49:04am

The little side story to the main billionaire-bigot-dilletant Elmo story is how the author didn’t seem to understand what sort of reaction this news would cause. Like, ho hum, one of the richest men in the world is just going to secretly fuck with a military operation of a US ally to ensure that an imperial invader can continue to commit war crimes against civilians, no biggie.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sep 9, 2023 • 5:54:10am

re: #150 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You’re talking about stripping away (second amendment) rights, not enforcing them.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 9, 2023 • 6:22:38am

The Biden Administration is appealing the Fifth Circuit’s ruling restricting access to mifepristone. If SCOTUS affirms the 5th Circuit, mifepristone will effectively be taken off the market for months, at least, and it would become illegal to mail it to women. Women would still be able to get medication abortions using only misoprostol, which is slightly less effective and is more likely to require a surgical intervention. There would be close to zero chance SCOTUS would approve of courts second guessing the FDA’s decision on a prescription drug if it was for anything other than abortion. Since mifepristone is an abortion drug, it may come down to whether Kavanaugh votes with Roberts or not.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 9, 2023 • 6:26:06am

This morning on the local news there was a report about a 50-something guy found guilty of sexual assault on minors at his business. I thought, “I wonder if I can find anything out about his political leanings,” so I found his FB page—it’s from a week before his court date:

[after revealing that he had faced various accusations from a former tenant and an employee he fired a few years ago, and after saying ‘my lawyer won’t like me talking, but I want my friends who have seen my mug shot to know,’ he continued]:

“We have a very new apparently woke 85k a year police chief who appears to be much more concerned with appeasement of the woke liberal lefty mob than with guilt or innocents. He post things about his officers being forced into sensitivity training ect. Should you happen to be an old grouchy Grey haird guy like me and own a local business you might want to retain council now in preparation for what might be coming your way.”

and, “Why would our police department treat a non convicted white business man who’s been doing business successfully in this town for over 30 years like a God dam drug dealer and try to destroy him with a misleading mug shot photo and charges they know they’ll never prove? Why would they purposely come to my business and insist on handcuffing me and forcing me into there smallest cruiser knowing I could possibly fit, stating o just lay down back there.”

Here’s from the Police Log six days later:

“[redacted] Pleads Guilty to Sexually Assaulting Juvenile Employees On September 8, 2023, [the guy], age 58, of [place north of me], pleaded guilty in the 2nd Circuit District Division Plymouth Court to two counts of Sexual Assault and Indirect Criminal Contempt of Court, all class A misdemeanors. The sexual assault charges against T involved subjecting juvenile employees of the R R Ranch in C to sexual contact without their consent. As part of the plea agreement, T withdrew an appeal from a prior sexual assault conviction where he was convicted following a bench trial in January 2023 for having sexual contact with an employee without their consent.”

I just knew he was going to be this type. So many of these guys up here. He talks about getting charged because he’s just a ‘grouchy old white guy who doesn’t take bullshit’ and there’s a “lefty mob” out to get him. After that, my wife reminded me of the Republican state representative who is currently facing charges of hitting one of his employees at his tavern/restaurant and the owner of a casino bar facing charges for embezzlement whose wife is a R state rep on the gaming commission.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2023 • 6:35:03am

re: #157 Barefoot Grin

I just knew he was going to be this type. So many of these guys up here. He talks about getting charged because he’s just a ‘grouchy old white guy who doesn’t take bullshit’ and there’s a “lefty mob” out to get him.

Kinda funny, ain’t it? It’s always the ones you most suspect.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Sep 9, 2023 • 6:55:57am

Oh boy!

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2023 • 6:59:37am

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austin_blue  Sep 9, 2023 • 7:01:10am

If anyone wants to read The Screwfly Solution, you can here:

vdocuments.mx

Just go full screen and hit the plus button until the font is comfortable for you.

!!*Warning*!!

This story will creep you out. Really, really creep you out. But it is an allegory on so many levels of what Americans are doing to each other *today*, it is vital that it be read.

*Warning* /off

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 9, 2023 • 7:24:22am

re: #98 Romantic Heretic

The Screwfly Solution is one of the most disturbing SF stories every written.

I’ve only read it once but I still shiver at the memory of it.

Which it should when one realizes that it’s a story where aliens treat us like vermin and use our own biology against us. And that we are pretty much doomed as a result.

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2023 • 7:33:24am

re: #154 ericblair

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sagehen  Sep 9, 2023 • 7:34:29am

re: #132 Nojay UK

If you don’t want your thoughts known to the world, don’t post ANYTHING on social media. Period.

The cliche advice for years has been “don’t write anything on e-mail that you wouldn’t want to hear read aloud from the witness stand.”

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2023 • 7:39:16am

Elon Musk is a Russian asset and collaborator and should be treated as such. Sanction him and freeze his assets.

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2023 • 7:43:09am

They are adding at least four more lanes to 635 in North Dallas, and they are having to do it while people are using the roads. But part of it is making the overpasses for streets wider, so one of them looks like this:

It pretty wild under some of the others where they still have to cut out a 40×40×40 cube 9f earth under the road before they can make more progress on the highway.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 9, 2023 • 7:44:45am

re: #165 darthstar

Elon Musk is a Russian asset and collaborator and should be treated as such. Sanction him and freeze his assets.

Makes one wonder if Ukraine is contemplating something further than that.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Sep 9, 2023 • 7:57:05am

re: #148 jeffreyw

The Marie Kondo of puppers.

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steve_davis  Sep 9, 2023 • 7:57:10am

10 minutes into the Conjuring. SO thankful I don’t own a basement.

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2023 • 7:58:41am

re: #167 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Makes one wonder if Ukraine is contemplating something further than that.

Ukraine knows how to handle Russian collaborators, but they’re not going to do so on American soil…that would be bad for continued support. Elon does like to travel though, and accidents do happen.

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2023 • 7:59:36am

Gotta walk the dogs and get ready for a two hour drive to meet a contractor who is inspecting the house we want to buy. Need to get a frank assessment of what I’m getting into.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Sep 9, 2023 • 8:02:46am

re: #161 austin_blue

Thanks.

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2023 • 8:14:14am

re: #121 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Sure, let’s punish law-abiding citizens for the actions of criminals we can’t stop, that way we can pretend we’re “doing something”.

Might as well suspend everyone’s driver’s license next time some idiot drives drunk and slams head-on into a school bus, right?

I am not the preferred audience for these remarks. I am in favor of banning all automobiles out of self defense and defense of the environment.

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 9, 2023 • 8:17:30am

re: #156 No Malarkey!

Just a reminder, this utterly corrupt SCOTUS’s operating doctrines are:

1. There is no precedent we cannot ignore.

2. There is no law we cannot undo.

3. We can at any time refuse to hear any further appeals coming from heinous lower court rulings and simply let blatantly monstrous rulings stand.

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2023 • 8:21:17am

The 4 is the usual, but the double whiff is the unusual. Wordle 812 4/6*

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retired cynic  Sep 9, 2023 • 8:25:39am

re: #173 wrenchwench

I am not the preferred audience for these remarks. I am in favor of banning all automobiles out of self defense and defense of the environment.

I can’t say that would thrill me personally, even if it would be good for the environment (no question!). But I’m nearly 76, live 10 miles from even a dollar store, and have to use a walker to get to my mailbox. Being without a vehicle I can manage on my own would force me to go into housing in town, and I guess someone would then have to walk to the store for me.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Sep 9, 2023 • 8:26:37am

re: #154 ericblair

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The little side story to the main billionaire-bigot-dilletant Elmo story is how the author didn’t seem to understand what sort of reaction this news would cause. Like, ho hum, one of the richest men in the world is just going to secretly fuck with a military operation of a US ally to ensure that an imperial invader can continue to commit war crimes against civilians, no biggie.

As has been said, not doing something is taking a side

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2023 • 8:27:59am

re: #176 retired cynic

I can’t say that would thrill me personally, even if it would be good for the environment (no question!). But I’m nearly 76, live 10 miles from even a dollar store, and have to use a walker to get to my mailbox. Being without a vehicle I can manage on my own would force me to go into housing in town, and I guess someone would then have to walk to the store for me.

I am in favor of public transit that could exceed the rural electrification projects. If you’re not on a regular route, Dial-a-Ride will get you door to door.

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Captain Ron  Sep 9, 2023 • 8:32:54am

Scientists are working their way up to Ice 9.

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William Lewis  Sep 9, 2023 • 8:36:14am

Visited the family farm today. Dad has 10 new hens this summer, just starting to lay pullet eggs. Picture a day challenge. Day 9 of 30:

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Thanos  Sep 9, 2023 • 8:51:20am

re: #169 steve_davis

10 minutes into the Conjuring. SO thankful I don’t own a basement.

You say that until the next tornado comes.

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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 9, 2023 • 9:03:43am

re: #72 wrenchwench

At the risk of repeating my redundancy, I’ll say again that El Paso should be part of New Mexico, and eastern NM can go to Texas. Except Carlsbad.

Yeah, we don’t call eastern New Mexico “Little Texas” for nothing.

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2023 • 9:06:33am

re: #182 A Three Hour Tour

Yeah, we don’t call eastern New Mexico “Little Texas” for nothing.

When Mr. w was a junior at WNMU, he used to joke about being traded to ENMU (Portales) for 2 sophomores.

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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization  Sep 9, 2023 • 9:08:33am

re: #8 wrenchwench

They have a good governor in NM.

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I’m not sure this is the best way to go. I worry the backlash will be massive - a spike in gun sales, and people openly defying the order - and this will ultimately not work.

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2023 • 9:10:00am

re: #184 The GOP is a Terrorist Organization

I’m not sure this is the best way to go. I worry the backlash will be massive - a spike in gun sales, and people openly defying the order - and this will ultimately not work.

It’s worth a 30 day trial. That’s all she did. In a crisis situation.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sep 9, 2023 • 9:13:08am

re: #185 wrenchwench

Did lawful citizens commit the murder she’s reacting to?

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2023 • 9:17:11am

re: #186 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Did lawful citizens commit the murder she’s reacting to?

She’s reacting to more than one murder, but maybe the straw that broke the camel’s back is a case with the shooter still on the loose.

Your point?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Sep 9, 2023 • 9:19:25am

re: #177 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

As has been said, not doing something is taking a side

As Rush (the band, not t he asshole drug addict) said:

If you choose not to decide,you still have made a choice

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2023 • 9:23:04am

Since 2019, Lujan Grisham has signed a raft of legislation restricting access to guns, including a 2020 “red flag” law allowing police or sheriff’s deputies to ask a court to temporarily remove guns from people who might hurt themselves or others, an extension of background-check requirements to nearly all private gun sales.

She also signed a ban on firearms possession for people under permanent protective orders for domestic violence.

Friday’s order directs state regulators to conduct monthly inspections of firearms dealers statewide to ensure compliance with gun laws.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 9, 2023 • 9:29:10am

re: #186 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Did lawful citizens commit the murder she’s reacting to?

This is silly.

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2023 • 9:29:14am

RIP Bill Richardson

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 9, 2023 • 9:32:25am

re: #155 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

You’re talking about stripping away (second amendment) rights, not enforcing them.

Second amendment rights as defined by Scalia and a 21st century GOP Federalist-paid-for court. Not based on anything envisioned by the pre-industrial founders of our nation.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 9, 2023 • 9:46:46am

re: #175 wrenchwench

The 4 is the usual, but the double whiff is the unusual. Wordle 812 4/6*

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Birbie for me

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Wordle 812 3/6

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The 5 had a double whiff too — and took a 3 hour break before proceeding.

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Thanos  Sep 9, 2023 • 9:49:02am

Mastodon

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teleskiguy  Sep 9, 2023 • 9:49:37am

Iframe

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retired cynic  Sep 9, 2023 • 9:53:39am

For those who might be interested in the current state of the war in Ukraine, from Timothy Snyder, here is the link to his free blog. I find his views very helpful, in my ignorance.
snyder.substack.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 9, 2023 • 9:54:35am

re: #175 wrenchwench

The 4 is the usual, but the double whiff is the unusual. Wordle 812 4/6*

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My favorite double-whiff experience.

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Had a double whiff and then, instead of going with my standard 3rd word glyph because I couldn’t believe it was a solution, I tried a different word. And then discovered that my standard was, in fact, the solution!

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sizzzzlerz  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:01:53am

re: #175 wrenchwench

The 4 is the usual, but the double whiff is the unusual. Wordle 812 4/6*

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Nearly had a double whiff but ended with a birdie. With wordle, it’s my opinion that unused letters are more valuable than a green or yellow, at least in the first couple of guesses. That said a double whiff does get the sphincter clenching just a bit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:03:15am

Not sure if this was already mentioned here but:

CNN - A Washington state high school football coach who won a Supreme Court case in 2022 after he lost his job for praying at the 50-yard line after games has resigned from his position.

The nation’s top court ruled the Bremerton School District violated coach Joe Kennedy’s First Amendment rights, saying prayers amounted to private speech and could not be restricted by the school district.

On Wednesday, Kennedy announced his resignation on his website, saying multiple reasons factored into his decision, including taking care of an ailing family member out of state.

I believe I can best continue to advocate for constitutional freedom and religious liberty by working from outside the school system so that is what I will do,” Kennedy said. “I will continue to work to help people understand and embrace the historic ruling at the heart of our case. As a result of our case, we all have more freedom, not less. That should be celebrated and not disrespected.”

”As I have demonstrated, we must make a stand for what we believe in,” he continued. “In my case, I made a stand to take a knee. I encourage all Americans to make their own stand for freedom and our right to express our faith as we see fit.

I’m sure it will not shock you at all to learn the football coach now lives in Florida.

As a funny aside to that: Another story about this said the coach recently had dinner with Desantis, who wanted his endorsement. Coach said no because he backs Trump.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:05:57am

re: #155 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

You’re talking about stripping away (second amendment) rights, not enforcing them.

See, I’m not actually doing anything of the sort.

Even today’s corrupted court does not define “arms” as “weapon” or “open-carry.”

Almost every city in the land would hit you with at least a charge of menacing if you open-carried a sword or a barb-wire baseball bat, both of which are clearly weapons.

Swords definitely were carried as weapons in 1791 openly. Baseball bats were by the later part of the XIX Century.

Entire classes of weapons have been outlawed for possession by people (nukes, chemical weapons, automatic firearms, &c).

The Militia Acts of 1795 (actually their successors since the first acts had a time limit) are still on the books today, and are still enforceable, except the part about the “organised militia” (formerly organised by states, that was repealed by the Militia Act of 1905 permanently establishing the National Guard).

Under an “originalist” (if we’re doing that) interpretation of the words of the Constitution, “bearing arms” in 1791 meant serving in the Armed Forces of a state or sovereign. “Carrying a rifle” meant carrying a rifle.

Congress has always been vested with the power of organising, arming, and training the militia.

The II Amendment has always allowed for regulation (the well-regulated part), which is why the so-called “Wild West” only existed in Hollywood. Western towns had very strict gun control laws.

The Militia Act of 1903 (currently in force) defines two classes of militia:

Organised: The Armed Forces
Unorganised: All able body men age 17 to 45. (Since Congress has the power to organise, arm, and train the militia, that means them too.) Women are not included in this nor are men over 45, so it is likely unconstitutional under the XIV Amendment on those narrow grounds.

Every state has two mandatory militias: The National Guard and Air National Guard. Some states have a Naval Militia. All of these are organised, trained, and equipped by federal government as well.

If Congress (which in all interpretations of the Constitution includes every level of government) can regulate the militia, then the state governor of New Mexico can regulate the militia.

You’re still making the same argument about suspending Constitutional rights when she isn’t doing that. We’re back to closing large venues and churches during a pandemic (freedom of association and religion are Constitutional rights). Public health officials are on record shooting people who did not comply with pandemic regulations in 1918.

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A Cranky One  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:14:04am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:18:10am

re: #158 Dr Lizardo

Kinda funny, ain’t it? It’s always the ones you most suspect.

We’re missing a pastor for the trifecta.

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William Lewis  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:20:31am

Turkeys, another chicken & a new puppy…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:22:42am

re: #178 wrenchwench

I am in favor of public transit that could exceed the rural electrification projects. If you’re not on a regular route, Dial-a-Ride will get you door to door.

We already have something like that in my county, which is why so many elderly people in my town who do not own cars or have a license can live in this village miles from anywhere.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:34:17am

re: #203 William Lewis

Turkeys, another chicken & a new puppy…

Bunch, lunch, and munch.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:37:05am

I was just in the kitchen prepping the roast for tonight and I can hear my Japanese wife watching Christopher Kimbell’s Milk Street cooking show and hear her tsk and go “what?” and “that’s it, I’ve had enough.” They were daring to make a miso dish and it was, apparently, not how she would have done it. I asked and she said, “they put sesame oil in everything. No one does that.”

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sagehen  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:42:16am

re: #199 Eclectic Cyborg

”As I have demonstrated, we must make a stand for what we believe in,” he continued. “In my case, I made a stand to take a knee. I encourage all Americans to make their own stand for freedom and our right to express our faith as we see fit.

Various kinds of taking a knee are of course not equal. Some are good, others are ungood.

//

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:42:21am

re: #206 Barefoot Grin

There is also Cook’s Country. The original is Cook’s Illustrated Magazine. The PBS TV show is America’s Test Kitchen.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:43:10am

re: #206 Barefoot Grin

I asked and she said, “they put sesame oil in everything. No one does that.”

My wife wants sesame oil on any dish I cook that has a basis in China or Japan - she does not get her wish. Sesame oil is great for some things, it would completely overpower any dish using miso as a base.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:44:16am

re: #209 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

My wife wants sesame oil on any dish I cook that has a basis in China or Japan - she does not get her wish. Sesame oil is great for some things, it would completely overpower any dish using miso as a base.

Yep, that was her complaint. We use it plenty, but not in everything.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:44:44am

re: #207 sagehen

Various kinds of taking a knee are of course not equal. Some are good, others are ungood.

//

This guy deciding to go take a few laps on the conservative grift circuit is probably the best thing that could happen at this time for the students at that school. Since he isn’t there for the students now, and quite possibly never was.

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Nojay UK  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:45:25am

re: #206 Barefoot Grin

Miso is holy and not to be messed with, like Texas chili or Southron BBQ.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:45:31am

re: #210 Barefoot Grin

Yep, that was her complaint. We use it plenty, but not in everything.

You married a smart woman.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:45:32am

re: #208 PhillyPretzel ✅

There is also Cook’s Country. The original is Cook’s Illustrated Magazine. The PBS TV show is America’s Test Kitchen.

I watched that today. They replicated west Texas beef ribs on a backyard Weber-style grill. Oh my goodness how delicious it looked. (Also sausage-making and a blueberry crumble.)

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sagehen  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:45:37am

re: #200 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The II Amendment has always allowed for regulation (the well-regulated part), which is why the so-called “Wild West” only existed in Hollywood. Western towns had very strict gun control laws.

Malcolm Gladwell explores how classic westerns may have influenced SCOTUS rulings on gun laws

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mmmirele  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:47:04am

re: #173 wrenchwench

I am not the preferred audience for these remarks. I am in favor of banning all automobiles out of self defense and defense of the environment.

Most of the United States would become uninhabitable. This is not helpful. (That said, such a ban would seriously kick my butt into trying to get to Japan, where the transit system is very good.)

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:49:12am

re: #216 mmmirele

Most of the United States would become uninhabitable. This is not helpful. (That said, such a ban would seriously kick my butt into trying to get to Japan, where the transit system is very good.)

I want to bring Japan’s transit system here. So to speak.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:49:17am

re: #216 mmmirele

Most of the United States would become uninhabitable. This is not helpful. (That said, such a ban would seriously kick my butt into trying to get to Japan, where the transit system is very good.)

Fossil fuels and automobiles have been the most coddled forms of energy and transportation in our nation’s history. I cannot get over the gall of legislators who want to ban “discrimination” against them.

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jaunte  Sep 9, 2023 • 10:56:40am

re: #199 Eclectic Cyborg

Coach Kennedy was lying, of course, pretending his public ‘soft coercion’ of his players was actually private religious practice.


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