Acoustic Excellence: Tommy Emmanuel With Sierra Hull, “Precious Time”

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“Precious Time featuring Sierra Hull” appears on Tommy Emmanuel’s album ‘Accomplice Two.’ Stream or download the album here: tommyemmanuel.lnk.to
This video was recorded live at Tommy’s home outside of Nashville, TN. The album version of this song was recorded at at TuneSmith Studios in Goodlettsville, TN right outside of Nashville, and it features Sierra Hull on mandolin and Tommy on guitar. The song was originally written by Tommy about his family time which is precious time to a traveling musician.

This was filmed and edited by Joshua Britt & Neilson Hubbard for Neighborhoods Apart.

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414 comments
1
Unabogie  Oct 3, 2023 • 4:55:45pm

Premature threadulation.

2
jaunte  Oct 3, 2023 • 4:56:53pm

Timeline accelerando

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 3, 2023 • 4:59:47pm

re: #1 Unabogie

Premature threadulation.

If your comment section lasts for more than four hours, please see Charles immediately.

/

4
Charles Johnson  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:00:11pm

I’m testing some stuff I can only do with live posts, so there may be more posts than usual.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:01:02pm

I’d love to hear what Limbaugh thinks about what happened to McCarthy, but Limbaugh is still dead.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:01:14pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

I understand.

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jaunte  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:01:23pm

Bring out your Bluesky codes!

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Unabogie  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:03:16pm

re: #5 Ace Rothstein

I’d love to hear what Limbaugh thinks about what happened to McCarthy, but Limbaugh is still dead.

I hope to live long enough to say the same thing about Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, and Bill O’Reilly.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:03:17pm

re: #5 Ace Rothstein

I’d love to hear what Limbaugh thinks about what happened to McCarthy, but Limbaugh is still dead.

The thought of Limbaugh in hell trapped for all eternity in a studio taking endless calls from liberals…

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:04:31pm

re: #9 Joe Bacon ✅

The thought of Limbaugh in hell trapped for all eternity in a studio taking endless calls from liberals…

And he can’t respond.

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nines09  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:05:22pm

re: #5 Ace Rothstein

I’d love to hear what Limbaugh thinks about what happened to McCarthy, but Limbaugh is still dead.

Sucking on a cigar and coughing up blood as he shits his pants.
Forever.

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nines09  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:08:17pm

Got my Moderna boost set up for Thursday AM.
They get me a bit ill, but that’s life.
Have a great night.
I’m gone.

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:08:42pm
Acoustic Excellence: Tommy Emmanuel With Sierra Hull, “Precious Time

WOW!!!

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darthstar  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:10:22pm

I need the media to stop saying that judge Engoron put a gag order on Trump. He put a gag order on EVERYONE involved in the trial (which does, by chance, include Trump). So it’s not a 1st Amendment challenge for Trump. Even Letitia James can’t make nasty comments about the court or its clerks. So take that, AG!

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:12:29pm

re: #7 jaunte

Bring out your Bluesky codes!

I’ve got some. You want?

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wrenchwench  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:17:04pm

You got your Precious Time, I got my Delta Time.

HANS THEESSINK & TERRY EVANS - DELTA TIME (MUSIC VIDEO)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:17:45pm

Geez, I go to Sidney and I’m three threads behind.

Safeway fibbed: They wouldn’t let us get all three shots, so we settled for RSV and CoV-19. They require a week (this is an old antivaxxer trope which has entered the general public about getting “too many vaccines at once” but I’m not going to argue with the pharmacist), so we’ll get the flu shot next week in Scottsbluff when my wife goes to the doc.

NPR had on Republicans to talk about their shitshow today. One pundit said he couldn’t believe that this could possibly happen, and the GOP has no plan on who to even select for the next speaker.

Rep. Patrick McHenry is the Speaker Pro-Tem, but he can only deal with selecting a new Speaker.

I’m still half of mind that the reason they did this was if they couldn’t shut down the government through the continuing resolution process, they would do it by vacating the chair for the first time in US history. All work stops until they seat a new Speaker, and no one in the GOP in their right mind would take it.

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wrenchwench  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:18:25pm

re: #15 Barefoot Grin

I’ve got some. You want?

I got one right here.

bsky-social-pfd7p-tbniy

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darthstar  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:19:42pm

I’ve got five bsky invites now.

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Captain Magic  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:20:36pm

5 Blue Sky Codes…

cUNhVzA1Rm8yUUJqZFpVaVZxODFrWnhOUWpnRnR5N1AvY3NzZ0EzZE1FT3VZY2x1Y1kxbnY4OFZjZFNaS1hSOFY1eEVBNWJRS01uWTRzSlp5bjdPeVBkdkJ5bDhrSXpSRHluSW1PNFo2NGZCU3pURWZNS3R2MWRHa0JvS29HSWJSc2hlY2JHRUFIWlRVc1IxZkQ2ZERKbnFYd2Vtb01NQWxPK0V0d3dEUSswMVJGV3JaRGd6Y1dFTGZHQnQ0L2lEOjp3ZJRURWhGbsMaDsQn7MM6

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:22:04pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:22:08pm

I WON THE LOTTO! (Two free Pick 5 tickets)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:23:17pm

re: #22 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Dique.

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wrenchwench  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:23:57pm

re: #7 jaunte

Bring out your Bluesky codes!

Look what you started.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:24:38pm

re: #22 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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That’s petty.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:28:15pm

re: #22 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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Governing.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:30:13pm

re: #40 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Mark my word
It’s the Democrat’s fault.
The Democrats are the cause of this chaos.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:30:29pm

re: #24 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Dique.

Punque.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:32:04pm

re: #7 jaunte

Bring out your Bluesky codes!

For? I’ve been donating mine to science….people.

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Belafon  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:36:23pm

re: #28 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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I wanted to reply, but I keep finding out I deactivated my Twitter account.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:38:19pm

The RSV shot is really starting to hurt. Ow.

CDC cards put away in the passports, we’re good to flee.

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Lancelot Link Returns!  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:39:04pm

re: #26 No Malarkey!

More petty than you think; Nancy Pelosi is in San Francisco for a funeral.

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Unabogie  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:39:57pm

re: #22 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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Petty dipshits in charge of an entire house chamber.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:41:23pm

re: #31 Belafon

I wanted to reply, but I keep finding out I deactivated my Twitter account.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:43:21pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:53:03pm

Three threads ago:

re: #85 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Also goes out on TV and radio.

I’ll turn on the radio tomorrow and listen to the ag report. /s

Someone this year convinced a helluva lot of sorghum. Fifty miles of sorghum from Sidney to my house, all ready to harvest. It looks like a bumper crop.

If it’s like that elsewhere, that might drive prices down. I would suggest getting rid of your sorghum futures contracts. /s

If you have any guinea pigs, releasing them here would be heaven for them.

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wrenchwench  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:54:29pm

This looks like something I stole from Joe Bacon.

Mastodon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:55:22pm

re: #19 darthstar

I’ve got five bsky invites now.

I gave mine to the science/medicine invite list. I also made a suggestion the curator invite Twitter historians as well.

docs.google.com (donation list)

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garzooma  Oct 3, 2023 • 5:59:54pm

re: #22 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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NEWS - As one of his first acts as the acting speaker, Rep. Patrick McHenry ordered former Speaker Nancy Pelosi to vacate her Capitol hideaway office by Wednesday

“Please vacate the space tomorrow, the room will be re-keyed”

She’s not even in DC. She’s attending Sen. Feinstein’s funeral.

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wrenchwench  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:06:04pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:09:56pm

re: #40 garzooma

I’m sure she has assistants that can get all her stuff out of there.

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austin_blue  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:10:16pm

re: #41 wrenchwench

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Soon coming to the US, The Real War On Women, Iranian Style.

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wrenchwench  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:11:59pm

re: #43 austin_blue

Soon coming to the US, The Real War On Women, Iranian Style.

Do you really think so?

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jaunte  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:13:26pm

re: #15 Barefoot Grin

I’ve got a couple, I was just polling.

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Dangerman  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:15:22pm

Nancy pelosi was wrong this am when she said the majority party picks the speaker.

It’s not a rule
Yes it’s true in practice
And what’s been happening for years and years

So it is wrong to say the Ds didn’t bail out the Rs

That’s not how it’s worked for what 80-100 years?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:16:03pm

Cool. McCarthy says he won’t try to fight the Chaos Caucus and run for Speaker again, and subject the country to another 15 or more failed votes. Yay Kevin.

This kind of dumbass political jockeying would be embarrassing for a fucking PTA meeting.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:17:31pm

This explains a lot///

Study: Honest people tend to migrate toward honest areas, depriving their places of origin of human capital

The newly observed phenomenon of “honesty drain” can subtract human capital and economic resources from areas where the tendency to break rules is higher, according to “Rule Breaking, Honesty and Migration,” a paper by Massimo Anelli, (Bocconi Department of Social and Political Sciences), Andrea Ichino (European University Institute) and Tommaso Colussi (Catholic University, Milan), published in The Journal of Law and Economics.

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wrenchwench  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:18:07pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:21:24pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:22:58pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:28:59pm
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austin_blue  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:34:22pm

re: #44 wrenchwench

Do you really think so?

If the Gaspers have their way, absolutely.

Women will lose their agency, over time.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:36:52pm

Hilarious. Trump will have plenty of time to be Speaker between court dates and attorney meetings

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wrenchwench  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:37:00pm

re: #53 austin_blue

If the Gaspers have their way, absolutely.

Women will lose their agency, over time.

That’s happening, but I don’t see this country making it to beatings by cops for not covering.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:38:29pm

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Belafon  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:43:27pm

re: #54 No Malarkey!

Hilarious. Trump will have plenty of time to be Speaker between court dates and attorney meetings

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He thinks, I’m sure, that it would get him out of court dates,

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jeffreyw  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:44:08pm

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austin_blue  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:45:04pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

That’s happening, but I don’t see this country making it to beatings by cops for not covering.

Cops? Who said anything about cops?

Extra-judicial young men enjoining women to toe the Xian line will do the job.

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EstebanTornado1963  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:49:14pm

re: #28 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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Belafon  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:53:13pm

The voice actors from SpongeBob did a live action, on land short of the show:

instagram.com

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austin_blue  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:53:18pm

Ari Fleischer is an absolute idiot.

The R’s had a majority in the House and it’s the D’s that kicked the Speaker out? On which exoplanet does Ari reside?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 3, 2023 • 6:58:07pm

I’m so glad Tommy wasn’t at that Clapton shitfest.

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Belafon  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:00:26pm

re: #38 wrenchwench

This looks like something I stole from Joe Bacon.

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I went to go look it up because I will never get to go there, and they have a big building attached to it now with seating.

What’s funny about the Google street view of it, google.com, if you click to the left 10 feet, you get taken to a different time when it’s closed. So you can click back and forth and see it opened and closed.

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Florida Panhandler  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:02:13pm

re: #60 EstebanTornado1963

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Ari Fleisher, continuing to daily display the broken and shattered myth that there ever was an “intellectual” right wing.

Instead, what they have been all along are just toadie suck-asses for outright Nazis.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:02:19pm

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mmmirele  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:04:27pm

I’m discovering that it’s going to cost me about the same to go to Boston for five days at the end of the month as it would cost me to go to Tokyo for a longer period, in between the plane tickets and the outrageous hotel costs. If I didn’t need a short vacation so badly, and if I didn’t like this guy so much (he’s one of my old Scientology picketing buddies), I would have said no.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:06:29pm

re: #67 mmmirele

I’m discovering that it’s going to cost me about the same to go to Boston for five days at the end of the month as it would cost me to go to Tokyo for a longer period, in between the plane tickets and the outrageous hotel costs. If I didn’t need a short vacation so badly, and if I didn’t like this guy so much (he’s one of my old Scientology picketing buddies), I would have said no.

That is surprising; I thought Tokyo was one of, if not the, most expensive cities in the world

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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:07:34pm

*groan*

mastodon.social

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Mattand  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:08:07pm

re: #5 Ace Rothstein

I’d love to hear what Limbaugh thinks about what happened to McCarthy, but Limbaugh is still dead.

Credit where credit is due: he’s managed to stay drug-free for almost three years now.

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jaunte  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:08:39pm

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

It’s weird how much Gaetz looks like my father in his late 20s:

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mmmirele  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:08:40pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

That’s happening, but I don’t see this country making it to beatings by cops for not covering.

No, but it could lead to beatings by cops because uppity women told them they were not planning on discussing their comings and goings from the state of Texas with said cops.

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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:10:15pm

We’re lucky Rush Hudson Limbaugh III died at the ripe old age of 70. He had longevity going for him. His grandfather Rush Hudson Limbaugh lived to be 104. We can thank the tobacco industry for this.

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Orange Impostor  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:10:59pm

re: #54 No Malarkey!

Hilarious. Trump will have plenty of time to be Speaker between court dates and attorney meetings

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Or, it could be part of a larger plot to remove both Biden and Harris from office in rapid succession, so that Trump is reinstated as President without the need of a pesky election. Far-fetched for sure, but this is the maga fascists we’re talking about here.

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jaunte  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:11:57pm

@shoq.bsky.social

My friend @cgerrish finds an artifact to remind us of just how the press can almost always get it wrong.

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Mattand  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:13:51pm

re: #60 EstebanTornado1963

Matt Lewis, regular conservative apologist and all-around ninny at the Daily Beast, has an article up tonight trying to heap a ton of blame on the the Dems for not supporting McCarthy.

A guy who barely 48 hours ago essentially said he’d rather die than work with Democrats. Same guy who went back on his word with Biden in order to keep the Freak Squad happy.

Right now, my one regret about shitcanning my Twitter account is not seeing Lewis getting dragged over there for his both-sides tinged sorbet of GOP word drool.

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mmmirele  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:13:52pm

re: #68 No Malarkey!

That is surprising; I thought Tokyo was one of, if not the, most expensive cities in the world

I’m looking at $300-$400 a night. By contrast, in Tokyo, you can get a small, but very clean, room at a salaryman hotel near to a train station for $100 or less. To be clear, these are *tiny* rooms (rather like how Japanese apartments are tiny). But they’re scrupulously clean, and I’m not spending days in there.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:15:26pm

re: #31 wrenchwench

I’d like to see them give more info on the divide. Income level? Number of children? Education may make it possible to live longer, but money lets you buy education AND live longer.

Generally wealthy people have fewer children. Wealthy conservatives are forcing poor women to have more children by removing education opportunities and reproductive rights.

They also note in the article the college educated elite are now hoarding places in colleges for their own children, taking up twenty-five percent of all college slots now.

According to their data on non-college educated people, I’m doomed. I probably should sign off soon and start calling around for a casket and a VFW honour guard.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:17:49pm

re: #74 Orange Impostor

Or, it could be part of a larger plot to remove both Biden and Harris from office in rapid succession, so that Trump is reinstated as President without the need of a pesky election. Far-fetched for sure, but this is the maga fascists we’re talking about here.

Since there is no way they can get 67 votes in the Senate to remove either of them, that could only occur through violence

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Dangerman  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:18:59pm

re: #60 EstebanTornado1963

[Embedded content]Can you believe this person was at the highest level of government and is this dumb?🤦‍♂️

Unfortunately this has long since stopped being a surprising thing regarding and ever increasing list of lots of people

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:19:14pm

re: #62 austin_blue

Ari Fleischer is an absolute idiot.

The R’s had a majority in the House and it’s the D’s that kicked the Speaker out? On which exoplanet does Ari reside?

And yet again the “stopped clock” proverb strikes again

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Belafon  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:19:46pm

re: #74 Orange Impostor

Or, it could be part of a larger plot to remove both Biden and Harris from office in rapid succession, so that Trump is reinstated as President without the need of a pesky election. Far-fetched for sure, but this is the maga fascists we’re talking about here.

There’s this place called the Senate that could be a problem.

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Belafon  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:20:26pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

*groan*

mastodon.social

LOL

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Orange Impostor  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:20:27pm

re: #79 No Malarkey!

Since there is no way they can get 67 votes in the Senate to remove either of them, that could only occur through violence

They’ve already proved that they are more than capable (and willing) to commit violent acts in an attempt to seize power, so that possibility cannot be discounted at all.

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Dangerman  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:22:51pm

re: #75 jaunte

@shoq.bsky.social

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They spelled young’uns wrong

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Teukka  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:22:53pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

*groan*

mastodon.social

KEK

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William Lewis  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:23:01pm

re: #77 mmmirele

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Belafon  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:23:31pm

re: #84 Orange Impostor

They’ve already proved that they are more than capable (and willing) to commit violent acts in an attempt to seize power, so that possibility cannot be discounted at all.

Since we’re going down the dark route, Biden controls the military, and there are very few in there that will actually side with Republicans and overthrow the government. This isn’t Captain America and the Winter Soldier.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:24:29pm
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Dangerman  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:24:45pm

re: #76 Mattand

Matt Lewis, regular conservative apologist and all-around ninny at the Daily Beast, has an article up tonight trying to heap a ton of blame on the the Dems for not supporting McCarthy.

A guy who barely 48 hours ago essentially said he’d rather die than work with Democrats. Same guy who went back on his word with Biden in order to keep the Freak Squad happy.

Right now, my one regret about shitcanning my Twitter account is not seeing Lewis getting dragged over there for his both-sides tinged sorbet of GOP word drool.

These people have no shame and do not fear hypocrisy no matter how recent

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Dangerman  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:26:15pm

re: #79 No Malarkey!

Since there is no way they can get 67 votes in the Senate to remove either of them, that could only occur through violence

This trump for speaker is the same nonsense they spouted last time. It’s idiocy

Not ever gonna happen

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Mattand  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:28:31pm

re: #54 No Malarkey!

Hilarious. Trump will have plenty of time to be Speaker between court dates and attorney meetings

[Embedded content]

I was wondering when that bullshit would start.

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jaunte  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:28:32pm

J. Scott Applewhite/AP with a film noir image from McCarthy’s Last Day


motherjones.com
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wrenchwench  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:28:42pm

re: #59 austin_blue

Cops? Who said anything about cops?

Extra-judicial young men enjoining women to toe the Xian line will do the job.

The article about the 16 year old in a coma said she was beaten ‘reportedly by the regime’s agents.’ I’m calling them cops.

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Dangerman  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:33:07pm

This will become clearer over the next week, meanwhile a rando…

Hmm. According to CNN: “The speaker pro tempore, which is the official title, can only recess the House, adjourn the chamber and recognize speaker nominations.”

I don’t see allocating office space on that list

Further, given unprovoked and petty acts like this you wonder why Dems didn’t bail the Rs out??

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Captain Ron  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:34:14pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:36:25pm

re: #78 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Generally wealthy people have fewer children. Wealthy conservatives are forcing poor women to have more children by removing education opportunities and reproductive rights.

They also note in the article the college educated elite are now hoarding places in colleges for their own children, taking up twenty-five percent of all college slots now.

According to their data on non-college educated people, I’m doomed. I probably should sign off soon and start calling around for a casket and a VFW honour guard.

Children are being used to keep the classes sorted. Reproductive agency is removed from poor women first, and children are very expensive.

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Vicious Babushka  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:38:45pm
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BigPapa  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:41:27pm

re: #7 jaunte

Bring out your Bluesky codes!

I got 4 now. Only for kewl kids or weirdos.

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BigPapa  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:45:29pm

re: #97 wrenchwench

Children are being used to keep the classes sorted. Reproductive agency is removed from poor women first, and children are very expensive.

When the poors have lots of kids, it forces them to work. For cheap.

The parents too.

Woman-controlled birth control (and abortion) has empowered women to control their lives. That’s why it’s bad.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:45:29pm

Blue Sky codes for the brave:

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:48:49pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

Cool. McCarthy says he won’t try to fight the Chaos Caucus and run for Speaker again, and subject the country to another 15 or more failed votes. Yay Kevin.

This kind of dumbass political jockeying would be embarrassing for a fucking PTA meeting.

Forget it Charles, it’s Bakersfield.

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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:49:49pm

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Dangerman  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:51:33pm
House Republicans were distraught, furious and concerned for the future of their party after Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) announced he won’t run for speaker again after being ousted on Tuesday,” Axios reports.

“Several Republican lawmakers suggested it will be a challenge for any would-be McCarthy successor to unify the fractious conference he failed to tame.”

Said Rep. Dusty Johnson (R-SD): “Frankly, one has to wonder whether the House is governable at all

.

Oh it totally is.
Let the dems show you how to do it

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austin_blue  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:54:15pm

So, what’s going to happen tomorrow?

R’s in disarray or D’s in disarray?

I’m betting on the R’s.

“And will you go to church and pray,
Leaving your children to atone,
This world you’ve left in disarray,
It’s not God’s will,
It is your own.”

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No Malarkey!  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:55:27pm

Packed house in Phild for game one, roaring in the 9th inning

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jaunte  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:55:38pm

@djrothkopf

Welcome to the day in American history where the gag order placed on the former president of the United States at the trial at which he has already been found guilty of persistent fraud is neither the biggest story nor the greatest sign of dysfunction in that man’s party.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:55:46pm

re: #105 austin_blue

So, what’s going to happen tomorrow?

R’s in disarray or D’s in disarray?

I’m betting on the R’s.

“And will you go to church and pray,
Leaving your children to atone,
This world you’ve left in disarray,
It’s not God’s will,
It is your own.”

“McCarthy ousted as Speaker. Here’s why that’s bad news for President Biden.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:56:48pm

I need three things from Blue Sky:

1) some sort of “trending” algorithm, possibly programmable by me;
2) in-line translation of languages;
3) embedded videos from links like Youtube.

If Blue Sky had such I’d be much more willing to spend time on there.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:57:52pm
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Ace Rothstein  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:59:28pm

re: #110 Dave In Austin

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“Ted Cruz? Go fuck yourself!”

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austin_blue  Oct 3, 2023 • 7:59:56pm

Night all.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:00:42pm

re: #108 Ace Rothstein

“McCarthy ousted as Speaker. Here’s why that’s bad news for President Biden.”

The Republicans are in disarray, so why does it feel like it’s the Democrats?

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:00:48pm

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wrenchwench  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:01:05pm

re: #109 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I need three things from Blue Sky:

1) some sort of “trending” algorithm, possibly programmable by me;
2) in-line translation of languages;
3) embedded videos from links like Youtube.

If Blue Sky had such I’d be much more willing to spend time on there.

Mastodon. No code/ticket needed. Just walk right in, sit right down. I forget the rest of that song.

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wrenchwench  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:04:27pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:06:05pm

Alexandra Petri had a lot of fun writing this. Gift link.

wapo.st

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:07:05pm

Time for a little bit of the Master Artie Shaw.

Artie Shaw: Concerto for Clarinet

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Vicious Babushka  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:12:51pm

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:18:08pm

Ahsoka

Dammit. There better be a 2nd season coming. This Kennedy lady has been fucking up all the good shit. Like, nobody wants a series about Ray. 🤮🤮🤮

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:18:51pm

re: #49 austin_blue

Does your child kidnap children and write ransom notes?

No? This not an ableist/non-ableist situation. It is a criminal/non-criminal discussion.

re: #7 Belafon

If you’re over thirty and you’re parents don’t need help, you should be on some sort of watch

“Thank you for your service,” say the people who apparently think I should have had “a watch” when I was a homeless veteran and living with my parents.

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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:26:29pm

re: #119 Vicious Babushka

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Belafon  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:29:20pm

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“Thank you for your service,” say the people who apparently think I should have had “a watch” when I was a homeless veteran and living with my parents.

And that is why we will never have any gun restrictions. Yes, this veteran thanks you for your service. Yes, I understand hard times, I’ve done the not eating for two days thing, and the living at my parents home until I went into the Navy. And yet, we also have this problem with creepy guys kidnapping children or women.

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Belafon  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:31:12pm

re: #123 Belafon

Oh, and that wasn’t an actual proposed solution, because it would be damn impossible to implement, and a huge violation of rights, it was just pointing out that we have a creepy guy problem in this country.

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Belafon  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:33:33pm

It’s similar to my other solution to the trans-women restrooms problem in that the real solution is straight males should only be allowed to use the restroom at home since we’re obviously too dangerous to be allowed to use one in public.

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Charmingly Persistent  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:35:49pm

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“Thank you for your service,” say the people who apparently think I should have had “a watch” when I was a homeless veteran and living with my parents.

I think it is cool when multiple generations live together. Like Moonstruck. Isn’t it mostly an American thing that each generation has to live apart from the others?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:39:32pm

re: #40 garzooma

She’s not even in DC. She’s attending Sen. Feinstein’s funeral.

Is he trying to force her to return as his first act of pettiness?

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darthstar  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:40:52pm

Someone needs to tell ABC that their ‘Golden Bachelor’ looks like Kevin McCarthy.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:41:33pm

re: #115 wrenchwench

Mastodon. No code/ticket needed. Just walk right in, sit right down. I forget the rest of that song.

Sure.

But….

There was a Mastodon link earlier in this thread (by you?). I clicked on it. Chrome loads up the website.

But I can’t view the image or video that was embedded. Mastodon says I need to click on a spot in the image to see it and… the image does not come up.

This happens to me often.

And maddeningly, when I do click on a Mastodon link that is from an instance which is not the one on which I have my account, I can’t respond to a post by simply clicking on the reply button. I have yet to find a way to easily reply to someone not on the instance on which I am registered.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:42:57pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

That’s happening, but I don’t see this country making it to beatings by cops for not covering.

Not a long jump from beating people for being the wrong ethnicity or political leaning, which is already happening.

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William Lewis  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:48:48pm

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Not a long jump from beating people for being the wrong ethnicity or political leaning, which is already happening.

Lots of black people, Asian people and indigenous people in America don’t survive typical traffic stops that white folks think nothing of. Then you can run into the ones actively hunting minorities to hurt them.

The police are the enemy. The fascist right want to make even more so.

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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:49:43pm
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Egregious Philbin  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:50:27pm

Next Speaker of the House. Frank Stallone.

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darthstar  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:55:22pm

cre: #115 wrenchwench

Mastodon. No code/ticket needed. Just walk right in, sit right down. I forget the rest of that song.

There’s a site
Over at the Frankenstein place
There’s a site
Brighter than the blue sky place
There’s a site, a site
In the darkness of everybody’s life

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:55:49pm

re: #7 jaunte

Bring out your Bluesky codes!

I have 2 Bluesky codes if someone needs any.

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darthstar  Oct 3, 2023 • 8:57:28pm

re: #135 Hecuba’s daughter

I have 2 Bluesky codes if someone needs any.

I’ll see your two and raise you three.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:00:28pm

Damnit…again…

Multiple people have been shot on campus of Morgan State University in Baltimore, police say

BALTIMORE (AP) — Multiple people were shot at Morgan State University in Baltimore on Tuesday, police said.

The Baltimore Police Department said officers were on the scene for an “active shooter situation” on the campus of the historically Black university. The address given for the shooting appeared to match a residential building.

“We’re asking everyone to shelter in place and avoid the area,” police said on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter.

Police spokesman Vernon Davis told the Baltimore Banner that at least four people were shot. Their conditions weren’t immediately known.

Police spokesperson Amanda Krotki also said “multiple victims” were shot.

City Council member Odette Ramos said on X that students and staff were ordered to shelter in place. The university reported an enrollment of more than 9,000 students as of late 2022 and said it is growing.

ktla.com

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darthstar  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:00:40pm

Just trying to grasp how far McCarthy has fallen…voluntarily.

Mastodon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:01:45pm

re: #89 Dave In Austin

Is he trying to pound in pegs in a Fisher-Price toy?

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Belafon  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:01:46pm

re: #138 darthstar

Just try8ing to grasp how far McCarthy has fallen…voluntarily.

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He’ll just go around making people call him Speaker McCarthy.

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BigPapa  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:05:16pm

re: #140 Belafon

He’ll just go around making people call him Speaker McCarthy.

He’s now Blown Speaker McCarthy

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William Lewis  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:06:28pm

When I arrived at the hotel tonight, I noticed that the Hampton Inn across the street had their flag, appropriately, at half staff for Sen. Feinstein. Our asshat (and not especially competent maintenance) guy couldn’t manage that apparently.

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EstebanTornado1963  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:07:34pm

The whole goddamn party is filled with ignorant buffoons

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Lancelot Link Returns!  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:12:40pm

re: #123 Belafon

There was a guy down the street. clean-cut, normal-looking. He was molesting the neighborhood children. Meanwhile, i was slightly odd-looking enough that parents would pull their children away when I passed on the sidewalk.

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Captain Ron  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:14:03pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:15:04pm

There is a type of fundamentalist who wants to pretend to be an intellect, to not be associated with hicks in the back hills.

But they are still prone to all the bad thinking:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:16:08pm

re: #105 austin_blue

So, what’s going to happen tomorrow?

R’s in disarray or D’s in disarray?

I’m betting on the R’s.

“And will you go to church and pray,
Leaving your children to atone,
This world you’ve left in disarray,
It’s not God’s will,
It is your own.”

The Republican pundit I heard on NPR coming home today actually used the words “The Republicans in the House are in disarray.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:17:07pm

re: #143 EstebanTornado1963

The whole goddamn party is filled with ignorant buffoons

Gov. Hogan calls out Rep. Gaetz, then immediately goes to “both sides.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:22:22pm

re: #123 Belafon

And that is why we will never have any gun restrictions. Yes, this veteran thanks you for your service. Yes, I understand hard times, I’ve done the not eating for two days thing, and the living at my parents home until I went into the Navy. And yet, we also have this problem with creepy guys kidnapping children or women.

And yet the vast majority of people who kidnap women or children are people who know them (usually family).

“Scary guy with scraggly beard” is much easier to other than “clean-cut pastor of the local church.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:23:41pm

On a different note, I’m starting to feel like crap. (Probably the immunisations.)

I’m going to see if I can lubricate them with some Jamaican ginger beer and Kraken rum.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:26:50pm

re: #137 Joe Bacon ✅

An HBCU. Did one our country’s racists go off again (he speculated)?

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Lancelot Link Returns!  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:27:45pm

re: #150 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Be careful with the rum. It sometimes doesn’t pair well with immunizations.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:30:21pm

Another fundamentalist intellectual:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:30:28pm

re: #152 Lancelot Link Returns!

Be careful with the rum. It sometimes doesn’t pair well with immunizations.

I’m careful with the rum anyway, since it pairs extremely poorly with my epilepsy medication.

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cat-tikvah  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:33:11pm

re: #148 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hogan’s father voted to impeach Nixon, saying “I want with all my heart to be able to say to you now that the president of the United States is innocent of wrongdoing, that he has not committed an impeachable offense, but I cannot say that … Richard M. Nixon has, beyond a reasonable doubt, committed impeachable offenses.”

His father would surely be disappointed in his dissembling son. Hogan Jr. dishonors his legacy.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:33:16pm

re: #153 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Another fundamentalist intellectual:

And of course he’s lying for Jesus as well. From the BBC article:

It would offering an opportunity to study the history and impact of witchcraft and magic around the world on society and science, bosses said.

The one-year programme starts in September 2024.

Academics with expertise in history, literature, philosophy, archaeology, sociology, psychology, drama, and religion will show the role of magic on the West and the East.

Magic and the occult have had a huge effect on world history, regardless of the truthfulness of those propositions.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:35:49pm

re: #62 austin_blue

Ari Fleischer is an absolute idiot.

The R’s had a majority in the House and it’s the D’s that kicked the Speaker out? On which exoplanet does Ari reside?

If McCarthy hadn’t spent the weekend attacking Democrats, expressing no interest in cooperation, and reneging on his budget agreement with Biden, the Democrats would likely have helped him out.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:36:26pm

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And of course he’s lying for Jesus as well. From the BBC article:

Magic and the occult have had a huge effect on world history, regardless of the truthfulness of those propositions.

Hell, look at how many people out there consult their daily horoscope, regardless of the fact that astrology is largely predicated on the geocentric model.

Off to work…back later.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:42:56pm

Meanwhile in Canada (BBC, three hours ago):

Canada MPs elect first black House of Commons Speaker

“Canada has elected Liberal MP Greg Fergus to be the new Speaker of the House of Commons after the previous one resigned amid a Nazi in parliament row.”

The summation sentence is worded weirdly.

The previous Speaker of the House of Commons in Canada resigned after inviting a Ukrainian WW2 to speak to the Commons, apparently not realising that he was a veteran of the German SS.

Liberal Party MP Greg Fergus is the new Speaker, winning amongst seven candidates for the position.

It would appear Canada’s Liberals are a bit better at running their lower house than our Republicans here.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:46:35pm

Just checked MegaMillions. Matched 2 and was 1 off on a third and the Mega Number…

Once again I got a rock…

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:47:50pm

re: #159 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Meanwhile in Canada (BBC, three hours ago):

Canada MPs elect first black House of Commons Speaker

“Canada has elected Liberal MP Greg Fergus to be the new Speaker of the House of Commons after the previous one resigned amid a Nazi in parliament row.”

The summation sentence is worded weirdly.

The previous Speaker of the House of Commons in Canada resigned after inviting a Ukrainian WW2 to speak to the Commons, apparently not realising that he was a veteran of the German SS.

Liberal Party MP Greg Fergus is the new Speaker, winning amongst seven candidates for the position.

It would appear Canada’s Liberals are a bit better at running their lower house than our Republicans here.

No doubt the Republicans here would welcome that SS officer to the House with open arms…

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piratedan  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:50:52pm

re: #157 Hecuba’s daughter

i really believe that the Biden deal renege was the cherry on the sundae….

but there was plenty of other ammo

allowing Santos to stay in his seat
allowing the vote of censure on Schiff to take place

and for those keeping receipts, he even “joked” about wanting to use the Speaker’s gavel on Pelosi and his 180 on J6 and then going to meet with Trump to beg forgiveness.

he’s the epitome of a GOP politician, always looking out for Kevin, no matter the cost.

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:53:11pm

re: #162 piratedan

i really believe that the Biden deal renege was the cherry on the sundae….

but there was plenty of other ammo

allowing Santos to stay in his seat
allowing the vote of censure on Schiff to take place

and for those keeping receipts, he even “joked” about wanting to use the Speaker’s gavel on Pelosi and his 180 on J6 and then going to meet with Trump to beg forgiveness.

he’s the epitome of a GOP politician, always looking out for Kevin, no matter the cost.

Harry S Truman: “If you want friend in Washington, get a dog.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 3, 2023 • 9:58:49pm

re: #135 Hecuba’s daughter

I have 2 Bluesky codes if someone needs any.

I just donated my codes to the science link posted above.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 3, 2023 • 10:04:14pm

Criswell Bacon predicts that Trump will violate his gag order by this time tomorrow…oh hell it’ll be way sooner than that…probably tomorrow morning even before I wake up! 😏

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 3, 2023 • 10:07:49pm

She’s playing them like a chess grandmaster.

Fani Willis offers new plea deals to several Trump co-defendants

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is offering a new round of plea agreements for several low-level co-defendants charged as part of the election racketeering conspiracy case against former President Donald Trump, reportedThe Atlanta Journal-Constitution on Tuesday.

According to the report, “at least a handful” of the 18 co-defendants in the case have been offered agreements. Among those is Michael Roman, Trump’s director of operations in Georgia, and some of the people “who were indicted for their alleged roles in the appointment of a slate of Trump electors, election data breach in Coffee County and harassment of Fulton poll worker Ruby Freeman.”

At least two of those offers were informal and didn’t offer specifics, according to the report.

This comes after Willis secured her first successful plea agreement with Scott Hall, a bail bondsman charged with the Coffee County breach scheme, taking a guilty plea — which could potentially open up a new line of cooperation against some of Trump’s associates.

Several others are planning to take the charges to trial, with Trump-aligned attorneys Sidney Powell and Ken Chesebro successfully moving for their cases to be severed and heard first, independently of the former president and the other defendants.

George Washington University law professor John Banzhaf said that what happens next depends on the kind of people Willis’ prosecutors can secure deals with. “One is how early (defendants) come in and the other is how important are they,” he told AJC. “Obviously Rudy Giuliani is much more useful than, say, one of these electors.”

ajc.com

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BigPapa  Oct 3, 2023 • 10:15:39pm

re: #164 Hecuba’s daughter

I just donated my codes to the science link posted above.

Me too! Bring on the big brainz!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 3, 2023 • 10:22:48pm

Ugh, this grates on me.

Two years ago, I lost a friend to Covid. Great guy, but unfortunately he went to a church full of anti-vaxxers. He left behind two boys under 13.

Today, an acquaintance of mine who was a friend of the dude who passed two years ago ALSO died of Covid (I’ll give you two guesses if he was vaccinated and one doesn’t count) and ALSO left behind two kids, 11 and 14.

He didn’t do a lot of planning ahead and so (of course) a Gofundme has been set up to cover his funeral expenses.

On top of that, I got a message from another acquaintance who was a close friend of the guy asking if I would be willing to donate some food to the family of the deceased.

I agreed to do this primarily to help out the kids, who are not responsible for their father’s choices.

This death was more than likely PREVENTABLE but the guy was a “patriot” that didn’t give a shit what actual doctors had to say.

Now he won’t get to see his kids grow up but…freedom or something.

🙄

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 10:43:53pm

It begins … chance of snow Thursday night.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 10:48:18pm

re: #168 Eclectic Cyborg

Ugh, this grates on me.

Two years ago, I lost a friend to Covid. Great guy, but unfortunately he went to a church full of anti-vaxxers. He left behind two boys under 13.

Today, an acquaintance of mine who was a friend of the dude who passed two years ago ALSO died of Covid (I’ll give you two guesses if he was vaccinated and one doesn’t count) and ALSO left behind two kids, 11 and 14.

He didn’t do a lot of planning ahead and so (of course) a Gofundme has been set up to cover his funeral expenses.

On top of that, I got a message from another acquaintance who was a close friend of the guy asking if I would be willing to donate some food to the family of the deceased.

I agreed to do this primarily to help out the kids, who are not responsible for their father’s choices.

This death was more than likely PREVENTABLE but the guy was a “patriot” that didn’t give a shit what actual doctors had to say.

Now he won’t get to see his kids grow up but…freedom or something.

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I’m sorry to read about your friends.

I really believe the lack of Internet service (no conspiracy theories) here and the early adoption of the vaccine by my eighty+ year-old neighbour and me (and becoming brand ambassadors for vaccination) kept Covid-19 from cutting a swathe across the village. The death toll here remains two (the two thirty-somethings who moved here from Omaha and died from Covid-19 before there was a vaccine).

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 3, 2023 • 10:51:58pm

re: #168 Eclectic Cyborg

Ugh, this grates on me.

Two years ago, I lost a friend to Covid. Great guy, but unfortunately he went to a church full of anti-vaxxers. He left behind two boys under 13.

Today, an acquaintance of mine who was a friend of the dude who passed two years ago ALSO died of Covid (I’ll give you two guesses if he was vaccinated and one doesn’t count) and ALSO left behind two kids, 11 and 14.

He didn’t do a lot of planning ahead and so (of course) a Gofundme has been set up to cover his funeral expenses.

On top of that, I got a message from another acquaintance who was a close friend of the guy asking if I would be willing to donate some food to the family of the deceased.

I agreed to do this primarily to help out the kids, who are not responsible for their father’s choices.

This death was more than likely PREVENTABLE but the guy was a “patriot” that didn’t give a shit what actual doctors had to say.

Now he won’t get to see his kids grow up but…freedom or something.

🙄

Looks like Covid deaths in the United States are currently running at about 1000 per week — so at (perhaps) 10% of the rate during the pandemic. A few weeks ago it was half this level, but then there might be a seasonal component to the disease.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 10:59:40pm

Wonkette is busy mocking the continued comparisons between Trump and Jesus.

Oh No, Is Jesus Also On Trial For Inflating The Value Of His Properties By Billions? How Embarrassing. (today)

“You wouldn’t think Jesus would pull shit like that.”

Here is Trump sharing on his Twitter knockoff Truth Social website a meme from a crazy person that appears to depict either 1) Donald Trump and Kenny Loggins Had A Rough Day or 2) Donald Trump and Ted Nugent Looks Better Than usual or 3) Donald Trump and his lawyer Alina Habba REALLY had a bad day or 4) Donald Trump and Super Ugly Jesus.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 11:20:39pm

The GOP has alienated another group which they can normally rely on, due to their attacks on science and medicine.

America’s most influential doctors’ group once marched in lock-step with Republicans, joining forces to try to keep government out of medicine.

But now, as public health gets sucked into the culture wars, the American Medical Association has become a leading voice opposing GOP policies on everything from abortion and transgender care to gun rights and climate change. And Republicans are firing back with charges that the 176-year-old physicians’ organization is practicing “wokeism.”

The rift over social issues is threatening to undercut the AMA’s clout on the bread-and-butter health care issues it typically lobbies on — such as how much doctors should get paid by Medicare, which the GOP-led House is planning to debate this fall. And it’s tainting the AMA’s relationship with one group it’s long been able to rely on as a staunch ally: Republican lawmakers who are doctors.

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Politico, September 30, 2023

Science vs. ‘wokeism’: The growing tensions between the doctors’ lobby and the GOP

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No Malarkey!  Oct 3, 2023 • 11:34:56pm

re: #138 darthstar

Just trying to grasp how far McCarthy has fallen…voluntarily.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 11:46:38pm

Having learned their lesson from the Nazi period of Germany, that country’s conservative parties think they can work with AfD now and keep them under their control.

Germany’s far-right ‘firewall’ cracks (Politico, October 4, 2023)

BERLIN — The political maneuver shaking Germany’s postwar democratic order involves a piece of legislation that is about as mundane as it gets.

Center-right legislators in the eastern German state of Thuringia wanted to cut a local property tax by a small amount — and did so with the support of the far-right Alternative for Germany, or AfD.

The move broke with years of tradition in which mainstream parties have vowed to maintain a Brandmauer, or firewall, between themselves and the AfD, a party many in a country alert to the legacy of Nazism see as a dire threat to democracy. Even accepting the party’s support, the thinking goes, would legitimize far-right forces or make them salonfähig — socially acceptable.

And so, when parliamentarians from the conservative Christian Democratic Union, or CDU, passed the tax reduction on a late afternoon in September with AfD votes, it sent tremors across the country’s political landscape that still are reverberating.

“For me, a taboo has been broken,” Katrin Göring-Eckardt, a leader of the Greens who hails from Thuringia, said after the vote. “It shows me not only that the firewall is gone, but that there is open collaboration.”

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Captain Ron  Oct 3, 2023 • 11:53:56pm

Is this the Physics lady?

YouTube

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2023 • 11:57:41pm

re: #177 Captain Ron

Is this the Physics lady?

It is.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2023 • 12:05:02am

re: #177 Captain Ron

Is this the Physics lady?

She has more than one video (2017, 5:52)

Schrödinger’s Cat [Music Video]

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ericblair  Oct 4, 2023 • 12:13:28am

re: #176 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Having learned their lesson from the Nazi period of Germany, that country’s conservative parties think they can work with AfD now and keep them under their control.

Germany’s far-right ‘firewall’ cracks (Politico, October 4, 2023)

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This is primarily an Eastern Germany problem, although of course not completely. AfD support tracks the old East/West German borders.

One explanation I’ve heard is that, in West Germany, students were (and are) taken to concentration camps, had years of education on Nazism and the Holocaust, and were told “this is what Germany did.” In East Germany before the Wall fell, students were told that WWII was the war of those West Germans against Russia, and of course we good socialists were and are not to blame.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2023 • 12:42:10am

Now that Moderna has branded its vaccine as Spikevax, I figure I should be a blinking billboard for it.

I’m up to Spikevax x 6. I guess when I get to ten I get the free glass like you used to get from Gulf gasoline stations.

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Captain Ron  Oct 4, 2023 • 12:46:32am

YouTube

It took me a minute before I could pay attention to what she was saying. Cold studio, I guess.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2023 • 1:02:04am

SCIENCE!

Cheaper, more effective malaria vaccine wins WHO approval (The Guardian, October 2, 2023)

Because nothing exists outside the USA, such news tends to get overlooked here.

“R21/Matrix-M vaccine, developed by the University of Oxford, is the first malaria vaccine to reach 75% efficacy target”

This is a huge deal.

Cheaper, more effective malaria vaccine wins WHO approval

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A highly effective malaria vaccine has been recommended for widespread use by the World Health Organization.

The R21/Matrix-M vaccine, developed by the University of Oxford, is only the second malaria vaccine to be recommended by the WHO. It is the first to meet the WHO’s target of 75% efficacy.

Malaria, a mosquito-borne disease, claims half a million lives every year and mostly affects children under the age of five, and pregnant women.

“As a malaria researcher, I used to dream of the day we would have a safe and effective vaccine against malaria. Now we have two,” said Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, director general of the WHO.

Demand for vaccines is huge. However, available supplies of the RTS,S vaccine, the first malaria vaccine approved by the WHO in 2021, are limited. A second WHO-recommended vaccine is expected “to protect more children faster, and to bring us closer to our vision of a malaria-free future,” said Tedros.

The world’s largest vaccine manufacturer by doses - the Serum Institute of India - is already lined up to make more than 100m doses a year and plans to scale up to 200m a year, the BBC reported. Each dose costs between $2 and $4; four doses are needed per person. That is about half the price of RTS,S. So far, there are only 18m doses of RTS,S.

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The RTS,S vaccine is 30% effective, which was considered a huge breakthrough when it was created.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 4, 2023 • 1:05:19am

re: #182 Captain Ron

Sabine showing off that, for a middle-age mother, she’s still in pretty good shape.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 4, 2023 • 1:07:53am

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I believe the first paragraph is historical revisionism:

America’s most influential doctors’ group once marched in lock-step with Republicans, joining forces to try to keep government out of medicine.

It’s not the 1950’s anymore and the current GOP are not Eisenhower’s Republicans.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2023 • 1:27:03am

re: #185 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I believe the first paragraph is historical revisionism:

It’s not the 1950’s anymore and the current GOP are not Eisenhower’s Republicans.

As noted in the article, the AMA opposed such things as Medicare when they were proposed. As such, they aligned with the GOP which also opposed it.

Essentially they don’t like the government meddling in their craft. The AMA has been weighing in on such things as transgender care, abortion, gun violence, &c. holding positions in direct opposition to the GOP. Democrats in the meantime think these are important subjects to address, as well as issues like student debt (usually very high for a physician).

The AMA is also losing prominence: Only about 25% of physicians are members now, and donations from their PAC has gone up to Democrats. Moreover, younger members of the AMA skew strongly Democratic.

A few surveys and studies have been done on the political leanings of physicians. Doctors who are in more lucrative fields (urology, surgery) tend to lean Republican (taxes uber alles).

Stat, July 24, 2023

You may recall President Ronald Reagan quipped before he was operated on for his gunshot wound “please tell me you’re all Republicans.”

The first we can easily dispense with: Doctors can and do often get involved in politics. Polling suggests most physicians identify with a political party. Historically, they have leaned toward the Republican Party, but in recent elections they have leaned Democratic for a number of possible reasons. Physician groups and societies also advocate for policies at the national, state, and local levels. Individual physicians donate millions of dollars to political campaigns, with one study showing an almost tenfold increase in physicians’ campaign contributions from 1991 to 2012 (a trend we can only imagine has continued into recent elections).

The second question of whether a doctor’s political leanings bleed into the care they give isn’t so straightforward.

A 2016 survey study, conducted by the Tufts University political scientist Eitan Hersh and the Yale psychiatrist Matthew Goldenberg, asked about 230 Democratic and Republican primary care physicians to read a short vignette about a hypothetical patient and rate the “seriousness” of various medical issues the patient presented. The researchers purposely included both politically charged and nonpolitically charged issues. For example, one vignette focused on tobacco use, a non-charged issue. It described a patient who “acknowledges engaging in social smoking, consuming ~15-20 cigarettes per week (2-3 per day), a habit that began at age 18.” A charged vignette said that the patient “acknowledges having had two elective abortions in the last 5 years. She denies any physical complaints or complications associated with these procedures. She is not currently pregnant.” If politics were influencing doctors, we ought to see a difference in their views of the “seriousness” of charged issues and no difference when it came to non-charged issues.

That’s precisely what the researchers found. Republican doctors perceived patients who had had prior abortions — and in other charged vignette, those who had used recreational marijuana — to have more “serious” medical issues than Democratic doctors. Democratic doctors perceived the presence of firearms in the home to be a more concerning issue than Republican doctors. Meanwhile, non-wedge issues — like tobacco and alcohol use, obesity, and depression — were viewed as similarly serious.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 4, 2023 • 1:29:09am

re: #186 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Back when I was growing up it was customary to think of doctors and dentists as the typical Republicans: professional, moderate in many aspects, serious.

But that was the old Republican party of the middle of the 20th century.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 4, 2023 • 1:30:55am

Prof. Miano wants to escape this timeline:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2023 • 1:42:35am

Via BlueSky (with text from an article embedded in the post):

Prof. Farhana Sultana * 8h
@farhana.bsky.social
Katalin Karikó, who won the Nobel Prize, was threatened with deportation as an international grad student by a toxic advisor once.
Professors, please don’t be jerks to international students. This happens too often & students shouldn’t have to win Nobel Prize for it become newsworthy.
#academicsky

The professor in question threatened to have her deported because she accepted a better-paying job at Johns Hopkins. My guess would be a conservative, and he didn’t want to lose his slave.

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ericblair  Oct 4, 2023 • 1:43:35am

re: #188 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Prof. Miano wants to escape this timeline:

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Meanwhile, Elmo spends his working hours in a little echo chamber passing around cartoon memes with crazies and suckups.

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Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2023 • 1:46:16am

re: #188 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Prof. Miano wants to escape this timeline:

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“Believe what you see, not what you’re told.” So if we post fabricated pics and videos showing Elmo as a fat and balding loser, he’s not going to immediately delete it, ban us, and threaten to slap us with a defamation lawsuit?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 1:48:39am

re: #14 darthstar

I need the media to stop saying that judge Engoron put a gag order on Trump. He put a gag order on EVERYONE involved in the trial

That version of the storyline supports the narrative that the courts are somehow impeding his ability to defend hiself by imposing restrictions on his Free Speech.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2023 • 1:50:11am

Your annual reminder that activated charcoal, used as a black dye food colouring (especially in Hallowe’en candy), interferes with the intended effects of hormonal birth control pills (and may other medications).

Stay childfree by staying away from the black licorice.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 1:51:17am

re: #28 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Unbelievable. The Democrats, with the help of Matt Gaetz and a handful of GOP Members, just ousted the Republican Speaker of the House. What a mess. This is so foolish. Why would anyone want to be Speaker of the House.

Did the Dems bring the motion to the floor? Did the Dems make approval of the Speaker conditional on the terms that only one Republican was needed to come forth and initiate such a motion?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 1:53:48am

re: #60 EstebanTornado1963

Can you believe this person was at the highest level of government and is this dumb?

He is not that dub, but he is cynical enough to know that there are enough journalists who will pick up this line and run with it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2023 • 1:54:43am

I’m sure this won’t result in a spate of violence from conservatives.

The Advocate, September 6, 2023

Elon Musk Agrees to Libs of TikTok Request for X ‘Data Dump’ on Anti-Defamation League

Remember, you too can have all your data dumped by Elno if he gets crosswise with you. If he does this and you’ve interacted with ADL on Twitter, you too could be in the crosshairs of a violent conservative.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 1:55:25am

re: #74 Orange Impostor

Or, it could be part of a larger plot to remove both Biden and Harris from office in rapid succession, so that Trump is reinstated as President without the need of a pesky election. Far-fetched for sure, but this is the maga fascists we’re talking about here.

Yes, I read about that ages ago, and that fever dream is part of what still drives the MAGATs to act th way they do.

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darthstar  Oct 4, 2023 • 2:12:08am

re: #188 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Prof. Miano wants to escape this timeline:

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I see Elon as the spoiled, misogynist, racist chip off the apartheid ruby mining scumbag block his father was. What is he telling me he is?

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darthstar  Oct 4, 2023 • 2:17:12am

Mastodon

Ukrainians have developed advanced protection against Russian thermal imagers and drones with thermal vision cameras. The cloak blocks heat radiation and renders soldiers invisible to the enemy, including our snipers and Special Operation units carrying out combat missions.

The development is compact and lightweight, weighing up to 2.5 kg. It offers high resistance to rain and wet snow, and it’s fire-resistant, providing protection against high temperatures. In the video, you can see a working prototype that has successfully passed field tests.

The invisibility cloak is just one of the innovations aimed at saving the lives of our military on the front lines. We need more. If you’re working on defense projects, please submit them through the Brave1 platform.

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Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2023 • 2:20:12am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Did the Dems bring the motion to the floor? Did the Dems make approval of the SPeaker condition on the terms that only one Republican was needed to come forth and initiate such a motion?

The modern GQP are like those redneck dads you see on TV who have a wall covered in guns, constantly go out drinking with their buddies where they blow the household budget buying rounds of drinks into the night, but then on Sunday they drag the kids to church in their one good set of clothes like clockwork and preach to them about the “Godliness” of living frugally and “making do.” They keep boasting about how if they were running things they’d have it all straightened out and running like a Swiss clock in no time yet whenever they are put in charge it turns into an absolute mess of hare-brained schemes and “Good Ol’ Boy” corruption.

The modern Dems, by contrast, are supposed to be the sullen, long-suffering wife who constantly has to make the family budget stretch by doing things like buying cheap in bulk, spending all day cooking meals for the entire week, and patching up the kids clothes so they can get through another year. Any time she tries to get the household under control or the finances in order, daddy comes behind her and blows it all up to the cheering of the kids. Yet whenever the stupid fuck brings the family to the brink of ruin, she’s supposed to be the one who steps in and cleans it up so he can save face with the community.

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darthstar  Oct 4, 2023 • 2:22:01am

Mastodon

Based on international humanitarian law, the rules are:

Do not direct cyber-attacks against civilian objects
Do not use malware or other tools or techniques that spread automatically and damage military objectives and civilian objects indiscriminately
When planning a cyber-attack against a military objective, do everything feasible to avoid or minimise the effects your operation may have on civilians
Do not conduct any cyber-operation against medical and humanitarian facilities
Do not conduct any cyber-attack against objects indispensable to the survival of the population or that can release dangerous forces
Do not make threats of violence to spread terror among the civilian population
Do not incite violations of international humanitarian law
Comply with these rules even if the enemy does not

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TarHellion  Oct 4, 2023 • 2:23:35am

Got the par - mainly due to few or no options being left.

Interesting things to note from my NC Congressional district: Mark Meadows became Chief of Staff, and now Patrick McHenry is temporary Speaker. At this rate, current rep Virginia (Queen of Mean) Foxx will be the next President.

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darthstar  Oct 4, 2023 • 2:33:06am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2023 • 2:33:22am

Physics, October 2, 2023

Stonehenge study upends a 100-year-old theory and suggests further discoveries to come

A team led by researchers at the Department of Geography and Earth Sciences, Aberystwyth University, UK, has discovered a secret about Stonehenge stone 80, also known as the “Altar Stone,” suggesting it did not come from the same source as other stones used in the construction. Many of the smaller stones are believed to be derived from a source 140 miles away from Stonehenge, but the Altar Stone is different and may be from a quarry much further away.

In a paper, “The Stonehenge Altar Stone was probably not sourced from the Old Red Sandstone of the Anglo-Welsh Basin: Time to broaden our geographic and stratigraphic horizons?,” published in the Journal of Archaeological Science, the research team details how newly acquired information is overturning a hundred-year-old theory.

The Altar Stone at Stonehenge is a unique stone among the bluestones of Stonehenge due to its sandstone composition, which contrasts with the predominantly igneous bluestones forming the inner circle of Stonehenge. Bluestone refers to the smaller stones at Stonehenge, which have a bluish hue when wet.

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darthstar  Oct 4, 2023 • 2:33:39am

Okay…back to sleep. It’s only 2:30

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2023 • 2:42:09am

re: #205 darthstar

Okay…back to sleep. It’s only 2:30

I’m off to sleep as well. I feel somewhat like warmed-over crap. It’s 3:41 here though.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 4, 2023 • 2:42:46am

re: #99 BigPapa

I got 4 now. Only for kewl kids or weirdos.

I’m sitting on 2. I posted 1 in the scientific donation area, which has still not gotten picked up. And just got another the other day. Let me know if you, or someone you know, needs one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 2:47:14am

re: #146 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

“retrieval of our true Protestant heritage” - are you going to go back to killing witches?

Calvinism.

Who needs elections when we already have The Elect?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 2:49:32am

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And of course he’s lying for Jesus as well. From the BBC article:

Magic and the occult have had a huge effect on world history, regardless of the truthfulness of those propositions.

I find that a reasonable basis for a degree that threads in well with history, anthropolgy, psychology, sociology, etc.

I uppose to get a doctoral degree you have to turn someone into a newt (for at least two weeks)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 2:51:27am

re: #168 Eclectic Cyborg

Ugh, this grates on me.

Two years ago, I lost a friend to Covid. Great guy, but unfortunately he went to a church full of anti-vaxxers. He left behind two boys under 13.

This is the problem with the attitude of “just let them die if they want to” towards anti maskers/vaxers: they leave behind a lot of innocent victims.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 4, 2023 • 2:51:38am

re: #146 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There is a type of fundamentalist who wants to pretend to be an intellect, to not be associated with hicks in the back hills.

But they are still prone to all the bad thinking:

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And outlaw Christmas again too?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 2:54:43am

re: #176 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Having learned their lesson from the Nazi period of Germany, that country’s conservative parties think they can work with AfD now and keep them under their control.

“For me, a taboo has been broken,” Katrin Göring-Eckardt, a leader of the Greens who hails from Thuringia, said after the vote. “It shows me not only that the firewall is gone, but that there is open collaboration.”

It is hard to ignore a large share of the electorate without driving more people into it. The AfD are not outright fascists, they are made up of right-wing populists who embrace a spectrum of conservative and nationalist social policies but radical socialist economic ones.

(nationalism and socialism in one party…hmmm…wonder if anyone has tried that before in Germany)

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Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2023 • 2:56:52am

re: #203 darthstar

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 4, 2023 • 2:57:15am

re: #204 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Aliens.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 2:58:04am

re: #180 ericblair

This is primarily an Eastern Germany problem, although of course not completely. AfD support tracks the old East/West German borders.

One explanation I’ve heard is that, in West Germany, students were (and are) taken to concentration camps, had years of education on Nazism and the Holocaust, and were told “this is what Germany did.” In East Germany before the Wall fell, students were told that WWII was the war of those West Germans against Russia, and of course we good socialists were and are not to blame.

And West Germans have been living and working with immigrants since the 1960’s when the first guest workers started arriving from Portugal, Turkey and Yugoslavia. They are not always a model of tolerance and integration, but they see have generally come to see these immigrants as neighbors and colleagues.

East Germany and Eastern Europe knew only guest workers from North Korea who lived in segregated barracks and were sent home at the end of their contracts, or Third-World exchange students, often the arrogant sons or relatives of some dictator they were coddling up to.

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Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2023 • 2:58:11am

re: #214 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Aliens.

How ridiculous…it was obviously witches.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 2:58:39am

re: #187 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Back when I was growing up it was customary to think of doctors and dentists as the typical Republicans: professional, moderate in many aspects, serious.

But that was the old Republican party of the middle of the 20th century.

Before the GOP abandonded science in the name of ideology

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 4, 2023 • 3:22:14am

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William Lewis  Oct 4, 2023 • 3:25:34am

So it’s 1986 and the new Star Wars show is about to premier … hahahahh!

Ahsoka 1986 TV Intro (Spoilers)

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 4, 2023 • 3:28:14am

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Dave In Austin  Oct 4, 2023 • 3:30:04am

It’s a balmy 75 in overcast Centex. I’m out on the deck having coffee in the dark. There are 3 or 4 big owls serenading each other in the oak canopy around the house. They seem to be moving quite a bit but I can’t see them. I have water out so that be a draw as well. Hopefully we get some rain in the coming days.

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Nerdy Fish  Oct 4, 2023 • 3:31:34am

re: #221 Dave In Austin

It’s a balmy 75 in overcast Centex. I’m out on the deck having coffee in the dark. There are 3 or 4 big owls serenading each other in the oak canopy around the house. They seem to be moving quite a bit but I can’t see them. I have water out so that be a draw as well. Hopefully we get some rain in the coming days.

It’s 62 °F (16.7 C) here in the wild north country, and the temperature is basically going to be falling all day (high of 63 °F, 17.2 C). This is fall in the northern latitudes.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 4, 2023 • 3:33:40am

Some early morning jamming drive time music!

Blind Melon - Tones of Home

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Nerdy Fish  Oct 4, 2023 • 3:33:58am

Normality has returned.

Wordle 837 3/6

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 4, 2023 • 3:37:38am

re: #210 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is the problem with the attitude of “just let them die if they want to” towards anti maskers/vaxers: they leave behind a lot of innocent victims.

I feel bad for the kids. It’s terrible to lose a parent and even worse when you’re young.

I’d be curious if the surviving spouses are or remain anti-vax, especially since the kids are too young to decide for themselves.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 4, 2023 • 3:43:13am

and in honor of the new country station in rotation, and that the song mentions Bud Lite.

Billy Currington - Pretty Good At Drinkin’ Beer (Official Music Video)

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2023 • 3:47:40am

re: #223 Shropshire Slasher

I saw Blind Melon in concert way back when. They were opening for Lenny Kravitz at the Salem Armory in Oregon. This wasn’t all that long before Shannon Hoon died, either.

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Markm1960  Oct 4, 2023 • 3:47:51am

re: #157 Hecuba’s daughter

If McCarthy hadn’t spent the weekend attacking Democrats, expressing no interest in cooperation, and reneging on his budget agreement with Biden, the Democrats would likely have helped him out.

I have a feeling that he was tired of the BS he had to deal with and decided not to fight.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2023 • 3:49:42am

re: #215 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And West Germans have been living and working with immigrants since the 1960’s when the first guest workers started arriving from Portugal, Turkey and Yugoslavia. They are not always a model of tolerance and integration, but they see have generally come to see these immigrants as neighbors and colleagues.

East Germany and Eastern Europe knew only guest workers from North Korea who lived in segregated barracks and were sent home at the end of their contracts, or Third-World exchange students, often the arrogant sons or relatives of some dictator they were coddling up to.

Similar to the former Czechoslovakia - outsiders were far and few between, and usually only seen in Prague for the most part. Not to mention that historically, the Czech lands were better known for emigration, not immigration.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 4, 2023 • 3:58:42am

Elise Speaker of the House yet?

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Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2023 • 4:03:27am

re: #228 Markm1960

I have a feeling that he was tired of the BS he had to deal with and decided not to fight.

Qev’s reached the end of his rope. The Dems were clear that he wasn’t going to get help unless he asked for it and the price was gonna be high. And even if he’d accepted it, there would be others who’d file motions to boot his ass. Now, he gets to spend the next 12 months focusing on keeping his seat and telling anybody who will listen (read: Beltway media) that whichever poor bastard finally ends up Speaker is nowhere near as an effective leader as he’d have been if he hadn’t been “stabbed in the back” and that he was the victim of a plot between Gas Pedal and the Dems to sabotage his Speakership.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 4, 2023 • 4:16:28am
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Nerdy Fish  Oct 4, 2023 • 4:17:49am

re: #232 Dave In Austin

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With Republicans, rules are like the Pirates’ Code from Pirates of the Caribbean: “They’re more what you call guidelines than actual rules.”

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 4, 2023 • 4:25:11am

Living rent free in their heads, probably because she was a leader.

Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Tuesday said the newly named interim speaker, GOP Rep. Patrick McHenry of North Carolina, has ordered her to vacate her office in the Capitol building.

She does maintain her regular office in the Cannon House office building.

An email sent from McHenry’s office to Pelosi’s office just after 6 p.m. Tuesday evening that was viewed by CNN, stated, “Going to reassign h-132 for speaker office use. Please vacate the space tomorrow.”

cnn.com

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Dangerman  Oct 4, 2023 • 4:27:14am

Just woke up
Verifying things are copacetic

Limbaugh still dead
Trump still indicted and empire in free fall
Carlson still fired
Musk still flailing and pretending
McCarthy still vacated

And off we go

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 4, 2023 • 4:32:10am

re: #227 Dr Lizardo

I saw Blind Melon in concert way back when. They were opening for Lenny Kravitz at the Salem Armory in Oregon. This wasn’t all that long before Shannon Hoon died, either.

I got my first job teaching high school at Hoon’s alma mater in Tippecanoe County, IN a couple of years after he graduated. I became good friends with a young English teacher who had mixed feelings about him: he had made an impression at a young age on the local music scene (where near contemporaries Bill Bailey and Izzy Stradlin had gone to LA) but was a constant PITA in his classes (though he admittedly didn’t have the easiest home life, apparently).

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ericblair  Oct 4, 2023 • 4:33:02am

A comedy in one act.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 4:33:50am

Just trying to eat letters and I gets a beagle.

Wordle 837 2/6

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Dangerman  Oct 4, 2023 • 4:34:08am

While the Rs argue

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Dangerman  Oct 4, 2023 • 4:38:37am

“in one of the many delicious ironies of this whole train wreck, McCarthy did get the votes of the vast majority of the House GOP.

And still lost”

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Dangerman  Oct 4, 2023 • 4:43:28am

What a twit

Does he not realize almost every R in Congress voted to keep McCarthy, and his opinion more closely aligns with the the Ds who all voted against him?

Clueless and a twit

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 4:45:52am

re: #216 Targetpractice

How ridiculous…it was obviously witches.

Druids. Mighty strong when shapeshifted.

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Florida Panhandler  Oct 4, 2023 • 4:46:34am

re: #89 Dave In Austin

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Someone please audio-shop a sqeeker hammer sound when he hits that ridiculous over exaggerated swing.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 4:47:14am

re: #222 Nerdy Fish

It’s 62 °F (16.7 C) here in the wild north country, and the temperature is basically going to be falling all day (high of 63 °F, 17.2 C). This is fall in the northern latitudes.

It’s 58 deg F here in the DMV. Autumn is the best time of year.

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2023 • 4:49:42am

re: #54 No Malarkey!

Hilarious. Trump will have plenty of time to be Speaker between court dates and attorney meetings

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Or being targeted for a third impeachment/removal from office by Democrats over his continued crime spree.

Trump has zero interest in governing, let alone legislating. He’s incapable of doing the job of speaker.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 4, 2023 • 4:55:44am

Stability at home if not DC. Keeping my Speaker of The House. //

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 4, 2023 • 4:56:33am

re: #245 lawhawk

Running for President and running from jail…

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Ming5000  Oct 4, 2023 • 5:00:40am

I have been forewarned by the USPS. Arriving today!

It begins.
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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2023 • 5:02:38am

re: #248 Ming5000

Costco has ‘em beat, as they’re already trotting out the Christmas decorations even as they’ve got Thanksgiving and Halloween stuff out.

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2023 • 5:08:23am
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Ming5000  Oct 4, 2023 • 5:21:22am

I am enjoying the NY fraud proceedings, and also watching the Georgia RICO case with glee. I wonder who the next flipper will be?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution (paywalled)

Fulton County prosecutors are floating plea deals to a number of defendants in the election interference case involving former President Donald Trump, according to people with knowledge of the proposals.

At least a handful of the now 18 defendants have received offers from the District Attorney’s office — or prosecutors have touched base with their attorneys to gauge their general interest in striking a deal for a reduced charge in exchange for their cooperation, according to the legal sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive ongoing negotiations.

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2023 • 5:24:47am
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Belafon  Oct 4, 2023 • 5:37:57am

According to the ABC chyron, Steve Scalise is the frontrunner for the Speaker nomination.

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Ming5000  Oct 4, 2023 • 5:39:59am

re: #253 Belafon

According to the ABC chyron, Steve Scalise is the frontrunner for the Speaker nomination.

Two right wingers I have seen predicted Elise Stefanik.
I have no idea.

Edit: Rick Wilson and an LGFer.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2023 • 5:53:19am

In tropical weather, potentially bad weather for New England and Atlantic Canada.

Tropical Storm Philippe travelled quite a bit further west than expected and is near the northern end of the Leeward Islands, turning north.

By Friday the tropical storm is expected to pass over or near Bermuda.

Sunday at around 1AM Eastern the storm is expected to clip Nova Scotia, then northeastern Maine, before dying over northern Québec.

The ground is probably still saturated from Tropical Storm Ophelia and subsequent rain. If the storm hits in the area predicted by NHC, there could be significant power outages, uprooting of trees, &c.

nhc.noaa.gov (tracking map)

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darthstar  Oct 4, 2023 • 5:53:47am

re: #206 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m off to sleep as well. I feel somewhat like warmed-over crap. It’s 3:41 here though.

Took me about 20 min to go back to sleep…Neighbor’s dog was having a heated discussion with a coyote and the exchange had all ears on the bed perked up. But I got a good three hours of snooze in.

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2023 • 5:55:08am

re: #253 Belafon

According to the ABC chyron, Steve Scalise is the frontrunner for the Speaker nomination.

White nationalist fascist Scalise.

Moderate turned MAGA extremist Stefinak.

Every last one of those in consideration don’t know how to count, which is essential to the job.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 5:55:16am

re: #229 Dr Lizardo

Similar to the former Czechoslovakia - outsiders were far and few between, and usually only seen in Prague for the most part. Not to mention that historically, the Czech lands were better known for emigration, not immigration.

As was the case with both my paternal grandprents.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2023 • 5:56:34am

re: #256 darthstar

Took me about 20 min to go back to sleep…Neighbor’s dog was having a heated discussion with a coyote and the exchange had all ears on the bed perked up. But I got a good three hours of snooze in.

I woke up. I’m going to try to go back to sleep, though.

I’m feeling awful, including shivering and chattering teeth.

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darthstar  Oct 4, 2023 • 5:57:25am

re: #244 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

It’s 58 deg F here in the DMV. Autumn is the best time of year.

Indian Summer in California. Was 89 in Palo Alto yesterday…72 in Half Moon Bay when I got home from the office. Got a few more days of this.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 5:59:55am

re: #250 lawhawk

Sounds like a good plan.
x.com

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Ming5000  Oct 4, 2023 • 6:02:16am

Our last day of “summer” in SE Michigan. 84F high. Might not see that temperature again until next Spring.
The leaves are already turning despite the warmth that we have had.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 6:10:13am

But again, the spin on the McCarthy putsch is that the Democrats were involved and it is proof of how dysfunctional our government is.

It is fucked up because of the Freedom Caucus MAGATs who are bending over to do Trup’s bidding whatever the cost.

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2023 • 6:11:50am

re: #263 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 6:12:36am

re: #264 lawhawk

That is the post I was referring to

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2023 • 6:14:54am
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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 6:17:20am

Ah The Wall Street Journal butt-bongoes The Great Eight.

The eight House Republicans led by Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) who voted to topple House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) from power on Tuesday effectively “cut off their own heads” and neutered their own party, with no idea where to go from here, wrote the Wall Street Journal editorial board in a blistering op-ed.

McCarthy, wrote the board, showed genuine leadership when he “put the country first on Saturday in refusing to let the plotters shut down the government for no good purpose” — but a few days later, faced with a coup from his right flank, “he refused to ask Democrats for a power-sharing deal in return for votes to rescue his Speakership. He put his party above his job, and his reward is that he is the first Speaker ousted in history.”

“In retrospect the die may have been cast at the start of this Congress when Mr. McCarthy conceded to a rule that any single Member could offer a motion to vacate his chair,” wrote the board. “He may have had no choice to win the job, and he did so assuming at least some goodwill among his critics. The reality is that they were always lying in wait to strike.”

What happens next is unclear — the election of a new Speaker, with McCarthy agreeing to bow out from consideration for being re-nominated, could take at least a week, and Congress still needs to craft a permanent funding deal to avert the new shutdown cliff in November.

Meanwhile, Gaetz, the architect of the current chaos, “is the prototype of this modern performance artist, as he raises money for a potential run for Florida Governor,” the board wrote.

“The House is essentially frozen,” the board concluded ominously. “The putative GOP majority is weaker, and its ability to gain any policy victories has been undermined. Oversight of the Biden Administration will slow or stop. Republicans in swing districts who are vulnerable in 2024 will be especially wary of trusting the Gaetz faction, and regaining any unity of purpose will be that much harder. The crazy left and right are cheering, but no one else is.”

wsj.com

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 6:21:28am

Are we surprised about this?

The Pimp of the Federalist Society refuses to cooperate with the DC Attorney General tax probe.

Judicial activist Leonard Leo is not cooperating with an investigation by Washington D.C. Attorney General Brian Schwalb for potentially misusing nonprofit tax laws for personal enrichment, his attorney confirmed.

David Rivkin, Leo’s attorney, said in a statement to POLITICO that Schwalb has “no legal authority to conduct any investigatory steps or take any enforcement measures” because Leo’s multi-billion-dollar aligned nonprofits — which poured millions into campaigning for the nominations of conservative Supreme Court justices and advocating before them — were organized outside of D.C.

politico.com

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2023 • 6:22:17am

Here’s some drive-time music for you.

Amyl and The Sniffers just dropped a live mini-concert video. Enjoy.

Amyl and The Sniffers “Comfort to Me Live”

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jeffreyw  Oct 4, 2023 • 6:22:23am

Good morning!

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2023 • 6:23:02am

re: #266 Belafon

Charles Gaba was doing the number crunching for *years* and identified this explicitly in the data. This isn’t some new finding. It’s what we’ve known all along. GOPers die at higher rates from covid than Democrats - party affiliation explains the difference, both in vaccine uptake and covid mortality, especially after vaccinations became widely available.

That’s how a state like FL can now exceed the per capita death rate of a state like NY or NJ. Far more people died in NY and NJ in the first wave when no one knew how to treat and the vaccines weren’t available, but since the vaccinations became available, the death rates in NY and NJ dropped - while FL continued to see high death rates per capita.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 6:29:57am

re: #271 lawhawk

Charles Gaba was doing the number crunching for *years* and identified this explicitly in the data. This isn’t some new finding. It’s what we’ve known all along. GOPers die at higher rates from covid than Democrats - party affiliation explains the difference, both in vaccine uptake and covid mortality, especially after vaccinations became widely available.

And the GOP also knew that the bulk of write-in/absentee ballots in 2020 would be Democratic. And even though they coe in first, they are counted last because under normal conditions, they are a lot more balanced and rarely tip the election except in a very close race.

But DJT knew conditions were not normal: he would be ahead on Election Day evening and the vote dumps coming in later at night would turn things around, which is why he started painting the picture of massive fraud and manipulation.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 6:32:33am

Escape from the rabbit hole: the conspiracy theorist who abandoned his dangerous beliefs

For 15 years, Brent Lee spent hours each day consuming ‘truther’ content online. Then he logged off. Can he convince his former friends to question their worldview?

theguardian.com

I have several Jesusbot relatives who followed this guy and his insistence that Stanley Kubrick directed the phony moon landings…and he posted lots of Pizzagate shit…

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 4, 2023 • 6:32:38am

Morning Lizards. A nice cool 48 here in Twinky Flats. Please, please let this be true.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 4, 2023 • 6:34:43am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 6:34:52am

re: #273 Joe Bacon ✅

I have several Jesusbot relatives who followed this guy and his insistence that Stanley Kubrick directed the phony moon landings…and he posted lots of Pizzagate shit…

Of course Stanley Kubrick filmed the fake moon landings, but he was such a stickler for realism that he insisted on going to the moon to film it all!

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2023 • 6:42:43am

re: #266 Belafon

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CDC says there are also stronger correlations if you work at the county voter result level. These assholes are offing themselves, orphans or not.

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2023 • 6:47:02am

re: #274 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

It is plausible that another fake electors scam trial could involve Trump as a coconspirator. Arizona is looking at just that. Smith’s prosecutors are looking at additional criminal conduct.

Smith could roll additional charges in via a superseding indictment depending on the jurisdiction where the crime occurred (FL or DC), but thus far nothing is certain.

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2023 • 6:55:16am

There’s not some big battle here in the courtroom. Ignore the noise.

The judge already ruled there’s fraud. This is just figuring out the damages, and the remaining counts. His lawyers already fucked things up with not asking for a jury trial and the bench trial before the judge already found the fraud that ends his business.

This is just the dickering over the terms of winding up his business and the appropriate death penalty and fines.

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A Cranky One  Oct 4, 2023 • 6:58:35am

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Oct 4, 2023 • 6:59:14am

re: #224 Nerdy Fish

Normality has returned.

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Birbie for me, too. (And we are pattern twins again.)

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Nojay UK  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:05:19am

Mr Muhammad Adil, a British surgeon who has been one of the front-runners in the COVID conspiracy and anti-vaccination business has been struck off the Medical Register for being a prat, basically.

“Mr Adil used his position as a doctor in the UK to promote his opinions and his actions undermined public health and public confidence in the medical profession and were contrary to widely accepted medical opinion at the time.”

Note for US readers, he is in fact a doctor, the use of “Mr” to describe him is a common British form used when addressing a senior medical doctor, usually a surgeon or consultant.

Those who follow the conspiracy theorists in social media may recognise the name, Mr Adil’s proclamations are often used in “appeal to authority” arguments by anti-vaccination and Big Pharma conspiracy types.

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:06:24am
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A Cranky One  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:07:20am

Stormy Daniels Not Surprised That Trump
Exaggerated Size of Something. - Andy Borowitz

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Dangerman  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:10:21am

re: #279 lawhawk

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There’s not some big battle here in the courtroom. Ignore the noise.

The judge already ruled there’s fraud. This is just figuring out the damages, and the remaining counts. His lawyers already fucked things up with not asking for a jury trial and the bench trial before the judge already found the fraud that ends his business.

This is just the dickering over the terms of winding up his business and the appropriate death penalty and fines.

We’ve established what you are, now we’re just haggling over the price

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jeffreyw  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:16:07am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:16:16am

re: #279 lawhawk

Exactly. The only drama is finding out if the new Trump Tower is gonna look like this…

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:17:05am

re: #285 Dangerman

Precisely. This isn’t going to be a showdown of say Boies v. Olsen over Gore v. Bush in 2000.

This is a case where you’ve got a real estate lawyer who has almost no litigation experience, let alone criminal or complex white collar defense work to her name, and who botched the initial filings to not request a jury trial, versus the NY AG’s office, which has all kinds of resources at their disposal.

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:17:26am

re: #287 Dr Lizardo

Wait, it’s going to have a fridge? /

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:18:03am

Attention!
Correction and clarification
I never meant to imply that Lubbock is Mordor.

Amarillo is Mordor, Lubbock is Mos Eisley.

Hope this helps.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:21:20am

re: #289 lawhawk

Wait, it’s going to have a fridge? /

He’s going to have to take the fridge out to live in the box it came in.

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:22:07am

re: #290 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Attention!
Correction and clarification
I never meant to imply that Lubbock is Mordor.

Amarillo is Mordor, Lubbock is Mos Eisley.

Hope this helps.

Lubbock isn’t Isengard?

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:23:53am

re: #292 Belafon

Lubbock isn’t Isengard?

No. That’s Abilene.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:25:13am

re: #289 lawhawk

Wait, it’s going to have a fridge? /

He can get himself one of those little chemical camping toilets and spray paint it gold. It’ll be just like home!

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A Cranky One  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:26:29am

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:26:38am

re: #293 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

No. That’s Abilene.

Ok. I’ll agree with that one. I’m from there.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:29:01am

Criswell Bacon predicted His Ass-Holeyness would fart out more insults in defiance of the judge and here we go…

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:33:19am

re: #297 Joe Bacon ✅

And his MAGA followers will gobble it up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:38:01am

re: #279 lawhawk

[DJT] lawyers already fucked things up with not asking for a jury trial and the bench trial before the judge already found the fraud that ends his business.

at first I thought there was some long-game strategy behind it all, namely allowing DJT to claim that “No jury has convicted me of a criinal offense!”

But it was simple bone-headed incompetence.

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:38:11am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:38:19am

re: #297 Joe Bacon ✅

The judge should throw Trump’s fat ass into a cell on Rikers Island. They can put him into North Infirmary Command (used to house those who require protective custody).

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:38:25am

re: #298 PhillyPretzel ✅

And his MAGA followers will gobble it up.

And they will still be stupid enough to send $$$$ to that fucking crook.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:38:55am

re: #298 PhillyPretzel ✅

And his MAGA followers will gobble it up.

Trump probably ran his rant past the best legal minds money can buy. Or not.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:39:50am

re: #291 Eventual Carrion

He’s going to have to take the fridge out to live in the box it came in.

So he can live in the box?

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:45:52am

He’s still miffed he’s not getting a jury trial, and still seems to not understand that his idiot lawyers didn’t request one (either at his direction, or because they failed to do so).

I’m not sure that failing to request a jury trial in a case like this rises to the level of inadequate counsel though - without checking caselaw.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:46:03am

re: #300 lawhawk

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We all knew it could and would get worse.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:50:02am

re: #305 lawhawk

He’s still miffed he’s not getting a jury trial, and still seems to not understand that his idiot lawyers didn’t request one (either at his direction, or because they failed to do so).

I’m not sure that failing to request a jury trial in a case like this rises to the level of inadequate counsel though - without checking caselaw.

I cannot imagine that “inadequate counsel” could apply: Trump knew who he was hiring and unless he can prove that they applied for the job under false pretenses or somehow claimed qualifications or experience that they do not possess, it will all be on him and his choice of All The Best People.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:51:03am

re: #307 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Safe assumption that he will stiff this set of lawyers, too.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:51:34am

re: #297 Joe Bacon ✅

Criswell Bacon predicted His Ass-Holeyness would fart out more insults in defiance of the judge and here we go…

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I don’t think that defies the gag order. He didn’t mention the staffers which was what the gag was on.

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William Lewis  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:52:22am

Couple of shots on the way home this morning…

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Dangerman  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:52:37am

re: #286 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]Trump: “If I had a jury we’d win this case very easily, but I don’t have a jury … this is the beginning of communism.”

i dont think that’s how ‘communism’ works

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William Lewis  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:52:48am

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danarchy  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:53:36am

re: #301 Dr Lizardo

The judge should throw Trump’s fat ass into a cell on Rikers Island. They can put him into North Infirmary Command (used to house those who require protective custody).

The gag order restricted any mention of the judges staff. Letitia James isn’t on the judges staff, he is skirting around the edges of the order.

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William Lewis  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:53:40am

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William Lewis  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:54:01am

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William Lewis  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:54:18am

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William Lewis  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:55:05am

And last, that corn crib keeps drawing my eye…

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 7:56:37am

re: #317 William Lewis

It is painted red of course it draws your eye to it. And those are beautiful pictures. Thanks.

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Dangerman  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:00:00am

re: #305 lawhawk

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He’s still miffed he’s not getting a jury trial, and still seems to not understand that his idiot lawyers didn’t request one (either at his direction, or because they failed to do so).

I’m not sure that failing to request a jury trial in a case like this rises to the level of inadequate counsel though - without checking caselaw.

fwiw, electoral-vote.com reported yesterday:

As you can see, New York AG Letitia James and her team did not see a need for a jury trial. The form filed by Team Trump didn’t ask for a jury trial, either. So, no jury!

But that brings us to the caveat. Quite a few outlets are reporting this news along the lines of “Trump hires crappy lawyers, and now he’s paying for it, because they made a bush-league mistake.” Not so fast. Quite a few legal experts think that Trump couldn’t have had a jury trial even if he asked for one. Here’s our New York lawyer-reader R.E.M. in Brooklyn:

I’ve read various commentary about how Trump’s lawyers erred by failing to file a timely jury demand, but because section 63(12) and its remedies were unknown at common law, and because the AG is asking only for equitable relief (orders of dissolution, receivership and disgorgement) instead of legal damage relief, no jury trial is available under the New York Constitution.

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Dangerman  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:00:44am

re: #307 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I cannot imagine that “inadequate counsel” could apply: Trump knew who he was hiring and unless he can prove that they applied for the job under false pretenses or somehow claimed qualifications or experience that they do not possess, it will all be on him and his choice of All The Best People.

plus he’s got more than one lawyer. they all cant be incompetent, especially since he only hires the best

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:00:46am
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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:02:41am

re: #307 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Digging into this further - Trump can’t claim inadequate counsel since this isn’t a criminal trial. He could only sue his lawyers for malpractice.

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Jay C  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:03:32am

re: #311 Dangerman

I don’t think that’s how ‘communism’ works

True, but it does “work” as a catch-all insult/dismissal/excuse for wingnuts like TFG (and has done for ages), so there we are.
Idiot.

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Unabogie  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:06:47am

Communism is now anything that makes Trump sad.

Bad hamberder? COMMUNISM!

Got caught stealing money from orphans and have to pay the price? COMMUNISM!

And now everyone who isn’t in his cult is a “radical leftist Marxist socialist communist fascist!”

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sizzzzlerz  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:06:54am

re: #317 William Lewis

And last, that corn crib keeps drawing my eye…

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Tricky lighting. Well done, sir.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:09:27am

re: #321 Belafon

Just waiting for Gym Neighbors and Comer Pyle to say that Joe’s negotiating with drug manufacturers to reduce prices is an impeachable offense.

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:09:33am
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:12:35am

re: #202 TarHellion

Got the par - mainly due to few or no options being left.

Interesting things to note from my NC Congressional district: Mark Meadows became Chief of Staff, and now Patrick McHenry is temporary Speaker. At this rate, current rep Virginia (Queen of Mean) Foxx will be the next President.

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Birbie here

Wordle 837 3/6

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Group: 3,4,4
Grunthos group was all birbies. One of the pars here was someone who should have gotten a 3, but in her 3rd try she put a letter in the wrong spot.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:14:20am

re: #286 jeffreyw

What is it with these morons and communism?

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Nerdy Fish  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:14:54am

Reading through today’s electoral-vote.com article, and they link to the SPLC labeling Moms for Liberty - the anti-LGBTQ+ hate squad who have been behind the Republican obsession with book bans and anti-gender-affirming-care laws - as an extremist group. It’s about fucking time. They’re terrorist-adjacent at best.

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JC1  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:16:08am

Good read about the 45 day CR and Dem thinking regarding McCarthy.

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Nerdy Fish  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:16:57am

re: #329 Ace Rothstein

What is it with these morons and communism?

It’s people who are old enough to remember Korea, Vietnam, and all the paranoia of the Cold War. To people my age, who barely remember the fall of the Soviet Union, “communist” is not the pejorative that these people think it is.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:18:42am

re: #308 Decatur Deb

Safe assumption that he will stiff this set of lawyers, too.

Their own fault for not demanding a retainer up front

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:19:14am

re: #311 Dangerman

i dont think that’s how ‘communism’ works

Communism is there to blame everything you don’t like on…

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:19:47am

re: #332 Nerdy Fish

It’s people who are old enough to remember Korea, Vietnam, and all the paranoia of the Cold War. To people my age, who barely remember the fall of the Soviet Union, “communist” is not the pejorative that these people think it is.

Memories of school when we were constantly shown films about the evils of communism. Even our textbooks were loaded with the same stuff.

We were shown films like this:

Youtube Video

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:22:56am

re: #331 JC1

Good read about the 45 day CR and Dem thinking regarding McCarthy.

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Can’t read threads unless we have accounts.

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:23:08am

Rudy’s fucked - legal term.

He can’t find any counsel willing to stick by him, especially as he can’t pay prior ones.

I am thinking a plea deal is in his future, precisely because he can’t afford not to take one.

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wrenchwench  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:24:18am

One minute Wordle. Wordle 837 3/6*

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I’d like another, please.

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sizzzzlerz  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:24:59am

re: #329 Ace Rothstein

What is it with these morons and communism?

Their definition of what communism is is as far from reality as their declaring themselves to be “conservative”.

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Nerdy Fish  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:26:59am

re: #335 Joe Bacon ✅

Memories of school when we were constantly shown films about the evils of communism. Even our textbooks were loaded with the same stuff.

Something we never got. By the time I was in middle school and high school and was starting to learn about history, the Berlin Wall and the nuclear arms race were already in the history books. Even in those early post-Cold War days, communism as a threat had fallen off significantly. My parents and teachers all tried to emphasize how insidious communism was, but we didn’t have nuclear attack drills, or propaganda films.

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jeffreyw  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:27:17am

re: #311 Dangerman

i dont think that’s how ‘communism’ works

It’s working as intended.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:27:39am

re: #337 lawhawk

Rudy can’t get a lawyer to defend him?

Hey! I hear Orly Taitz is available! 😈

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:27:40am

re: #335 Joe Bacon ✅

Memories of school when we were constantly shown films about the evils of communism. Even our textbooks were loaded with the same stuff.

He knows that his base hates communism

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Unabogie  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:30:33am

re: #340 Nerdy Fish

Something we never got. By the time I was in middle school and high school and was starting to learn about history, the Berlin Wall and the nuclear arms race were already in the history books. Even in those early post-Cold War days, communism as a threat had fallen off significantly. My parents and teachers all tried to emphasize how insidious communism was, but we didn’t have nuclear attack drills, or propaganda films.

When I was in high school we got a visit from the local army recruiter. I was sitting in the back and said “not for me to someone next to me” and he heard me and loudly asked why I supported communism. To this day I say, “fuck that guy”

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A Cranky One  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:31:19am

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:34:04am

re: #335 Joe Bacon ✅

Memories of school when we were constantly shown films about the evils of communism. Even our textbooks were loaded with the same stuff.

We were shown films like this:

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But we war babies had a balance between the evils of Soviet/Chinese communism and the evil Nazis our fathers had fought. The middle ground of those days used the term “anti-totalitarianism”, which has fallen out of fashion.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:34:32am

re: #345 A Cranky One

It sure does in more than one way.

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Dangerman  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:34:56am

re: #324 Unabogie

Communism is now anything that makes Trump sad.

Bad hamberder? COMMUNISM!

Got caught stealing money from orphans and have to pay the price? COMMUNISM!

And now everyone who isn’t in his cult is a “radical leftist Marxist socialist communist fascist!”

socialist / communist?

War AND Peace???

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Unabogie  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:35:29am

I don’t know why, but it makes me irrationally angry that Republicans are mad at Democrats for not saving them from themselves. They are pursuing a bogus impeachment and are working to save Trump from prison. They betrayed the deal the made on the budget. They are 100% to blame for the lack of support. They offer nothing but bad faith and lies and there’s no reason to reward them for that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:36:25am

re: #349 Unabogie

I don’t know why, but it makes me irrationally angry that Republicans are mad at Democrats for not saving them from themselves. They are pursuing a bogus impeachment and are working to save Trump from prison. They betrayed the deal the made on the budget. They are 100% to blame for the lack of support. They offer nothing but bad faith and lies and there’s no reason to reward them for that.

Magic Balance Fairy requires the blood of Democrats

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dat_said  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:39:27am
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No Malarkey!  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:41:03am

re: #349 Unabogie

I don’t know why, but it makes me irrationally angry that Republicans are mad at Democrats for not saving them from themselves. They are pursuing a bogus impeachment and are working to save Trump from prison. They betrayed the deal the made on the budget. They are 100% to blame for the lack of support. They offer nothing but bad faith and lies and there’s no reason to reward them for that.

I, OTOH, am amused. The GOP is making the case for why the voters should put the Democrats back in power next year, far better than the Democrats themselves could. Voters need to learn that elections have consequences, and the consequences of putting Republicans in power is chaos.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:42:30am

re: #253 Belafon

According to the ABC chyron, Steve Scalise is the frontrunner for the Speaker nomination.

Jim Clyburn said yesterday on MSNBC that that he’s worked with Scalise in the past and did not find him objectionable.

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sizzzzlerz  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:43:47am

re: #351 dat_said

I hate it when my heroes fall from grace - Pythagorean theorem found on clay tablet 1,000 years older than Pythagoras

I’m not saying that it was aliens that gave it to them, but it was aliens.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:45:29am

re: #351 dat_said

I hate it when my heroes fall from grace - Pythagorean theorem found on clay tablet 1,000 years older than Pythagoras

Things are named after the people who popularize them, not necessarily the ones who discover them.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:46:38am

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Dangerman  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:47:14am

re: #349 Unabogie

I don’t know why, but it makes me irrationally angry that Republicans are mad at Democrats for not saving them from themselves. They are pursuing a bogus impeachment and are working to save Trump from prison. They betrayed the deal the made on the budget. They are 100% to blame for the lack of support. They offer nothing but bad faith and lies and there’s no reason to reward them for that.

They are not ‘mad’ at Dems

This is merely rhetoric made convenient by the circumstances

I don’t believe s word of it

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:48:54am

re: #335 Joe Bacon ✅

Memories of school when we were constantly shown films about the evils of communism. Even our textbooks were loaded with the same stuff.

We were shown films like this:

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One of several high dollar propaganda films produced at, or for, Harding College during the Cold War. Like many other Southern Evangelical institutions, Harding had preached pacifism and isolationism until after World War 2.

This trajectory shifted during the Cold War, however. Harding became involved in the production of a series of animated cartoons extolling the virtues of free-market capitalism. This series, including “Make Mine Freedom” (1948) as well as “Meet King Joe” (1949), were all produced by John Sutherland Productions as part of a concerted campaign to fight against the threats of communism at the beginning of the Cold War using popular media. Funding came from Alfred P. Sloan, the major figure at General Motors Corporation. The animations contrast mainstream American values with the values of Soviet communism.

Harding, located in Searcy Arkansas, is still a bastion of conservatism, with most of its 4800+ students identifying as “conservative” or “very conservative.” It is affiliated with the Churches of Christ.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:50:25am

re: #357 Dangerman

They are not ‘mad’ at Dems

This is merely rhetoric made convenient by the circumstances

I don’t believe s word of it

neither do they, but they are cinical and maniuplative enough to make it their narrative

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sagehen  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:50:36am

re: #349 Unabogie

I don’t know why, but it makes me irrationally angry that …

Counterpoint:

You in fact do know why, and your anger is not irrational.

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Dangerman  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:50:41am

Ettd, including Kevin’s career

And after all that flip flopping and ass kissing too

Trump Wouldn’t Rescue McCarthy

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:53:28am

re: #361 Dangerman

Why would he? McCarthy outlived his usefulness to Trump. He’ll now move on to Scalise or Jordan or Stefinak and watch those extremists immolate themselves on their own ambitions and extremism.

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Vicious Babushka  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:54:06am

re: #324 Unabogie

Communism is now anything that makes Trump sad.

Bad hamberder? COMMUNISM!

Got caught stealing money from orphans and have to pay the price? COMMUNISM!

And now everyone who isn’t in his cult is a “radical leftist Marxist socialist communist fascist!”

Because the lizard part of his brain keeps telling him that it would be a bad idea to blame (((Globalists))) (((Soros))) (((Bankers))) but he will get there eventually.

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Dangerman  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:55:38am

At least newt knows whose fault it is

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:56:48am

re: #364 Dangerman

At least newt knows whose fault it is

News no longer has to win a GOP primary, he is at liberty to speak his mind

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Dangerman  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:57:00am

re: #362 lawhawk

Why would he? McCarthy outlived his usefulness to Trump. He’ll now move on to Scalise or Jordan or Stefinak and watch those extremists immolate themselves on their own ambitions and extremism.

Kev: “but I kissed so much orange ass, I don’t understand”

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dat_said  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:57:54am

re: #336 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Can’t read threads unless we have accounts.

See this -threadreaderapp.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 8:59:33am

re: #366 Dangerman

Kev: “but I kissed so much orange ass, I don’t understand”

He did not shut down the government as DJT commanded and such disloyalty must not go unpunished.

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Dangerman  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:01:10am

Pelosi and team sure know how to craft a statement

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:02:20am

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Vicious Babushka  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:03:24am

WTAFITS

Mastodon

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:03:26am

re: #333 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Their own fault for not demanding a retainer up front

Didn’t at least one of his attorneys get a retainer up front? Or was that for a different trial?

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:08:40am

re: #351 dat_said

I hate it when my heroes fall from grace - Pythagorean theorem found on clay tablet 1,000 years older than Pythagoras

L’Hopital’s rule was actually discovered by one of the Bernoullis, but part of the condition on L’ paying for his tutoring was that he got credit for any discoveries made during Berboulli teaching him calculus.

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darthstar  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:10:15am

re: #281 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Birbie for me, too. (And we are pattern twins again.)

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Squeezed out an eagle…

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:10:18am

re: #371 Vicious Babushka

WTAFITS

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If we let them come back, they will come back with shocking speed. What seems hyperbole now, will be found to be over-caution.

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A Cranky One  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:11:19am

re: #372 Hecuba’s daughter

Didn’t at least one of his attorneys get a retainer up front? Or was that for a different trial?

Chris Kise got a $3 million retainer up front.

He’s the guy next to trump who is smiling, unlike is other attorney.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:11:23am

re: #371 Vicious Babushka

WTAFITS

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That asshole wants another Tree Of Life incident. Sick of these haters.

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dat_said  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:12:37am

re: #373 Belafon

L’Hopital’s rule was actually discovered by one of the Bernoullis, but part of the condition on L’ paying for his tutoring was that he got credit for any discoveries made during Berboulli teaching him calculus.

Wonder when a certain Johns Hopkins professor will take credit for the work of one of the latest Nobel Prize winners. From Prof Farhana Sultana on BlueSky:

Katalin Karikó, who won the Nobel Prize, was threatened with deportation as an international grad student by a toxic advisor once.
Professors, please don’t be jerks to international students. This happens too often & students shouldn’t have to win Nobel Prize for it become newsworthy.
#academicsky

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:14:05am

re: #377 Joe Bacon ✅

That asshole wants another Tree Of Life incident. Sick of these haters.

This is why I find it more realistic than cynical when I say that there will be political bloodshed in America if Trump loses.

How many mass shootings do we have in a “normal” week without politicians, demagogues and pundits calling for murder?

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ericblair  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:14:27am

Breakdown from a Dem House staffer on the last week of McCarthy’s bullshit, the pretty well-founded suspicion that the funding deal was supposed to fail and the Dems blamed for it, and basically sixty reasons why McCarthy has been a bad-faith liar and scumbag and can go fuck himself. Full text in the hidden section.

Pretty evident people don’t understand a key piece of House Dems’ thinking on McCarthy and governance of the House. The idea that we acted out of schadenfreude or pique with no thought to the legislative outlook is, of course, silly nonsense. Here’s what the takes are missing-

On Saturday morning we had no idea what was happening. Scalise told the GOP they were moving bills that signaled imminent shutdown. This is what we expected. Then McCarthy suddenly and unexpectedly did an about face and announced a vote on a CR. We didn’t know what to make of it.

How to interpret this? McCarthy has resisted doing this all along, the wingnuts threatened to kick him out if he did it and he was running every play at their call. My immediate read was he wanted and expected us to vote against the suspension so we would be blamed for a shutdown.

I said this the (see below). And our members believed it, in fact without naming names I can say I heard it from multiple members yesterday as they were weighing how to vote, and that was with hindsight about what happened.

So in this moment, you look to McCarthy for signals—

And what signals is McCarthy sending us?

Dems: “We would like to read the $200 billion, 71-page bill we’ve never seen. You promised 72 hours but we’ll settle for 90 minutes.”

McCarthy: GFY

Dems: well we are going to take that time, but we are satisfied, we’ll pass your bill to help you get out of the jam you created for yourself

McCarthy: the Democrats wanted to shut down the government and f*ck the troops

People want us to give the guy credit for stopping a shutdown but it is still not clear to me right now sitting here writing this that he *intended* to do that.

This really matters and not just on an emotional level- the resolution set up not one but two new legislative problems. Now we have to pass an omnibus or face a shutdown again by Thanksgiving AND we have to fund military assistance to Ukraine pretty soon. But we are told McCarthy is going to help us there, he has made an agreement to help Ukraine.

And what does McCarthy say about that? This:

And what is McCarthy signaling to us on funding? He’s going to steer us directly back into the crazy cuts and abortion restrictions, the Freedom Caucus setting the agenda, breaking his deal with Biden, and driving us towards a shutdown in November.

Ok we are reasonable people, maybe he’s just telling them what they have to hear and he’ll screw them at the last minute. So what’s he saying to us privately? What reason is he giving us to think any of this is going to turn out well if we help him? None.

The supposed “institutional interest” would have us not only put out Republicans’ many fires for them, it would have us do so based on our specific belief and trust that *McCarthy is lying*. Like, his lying is supposed to be a good thing, and what sells the arrangement for us.

A speakership founded upon Democrats’ trust that McCarthy will lie to his own guys and not to us is not rational, folks! It isn’t sustainable or reasonable and it’s no way to run the House. We needed him to give us any reason to help him and he very intentionally did not do so.

People say “he couldn’t make a deal it would compromise his power” and they’re just wrong, that was a solvable problem. He could’ve publicly or privately given us a sense the CR was good faith and we were going to get through the omnibus, stave off a shutdown, and help Ukraine.

This came down to trust, and that’s the word I saw and heard from House Democrats more than any other word. We did not trust Kevin McCarthy and he gave us no reason to. He could have done so (and I suspect saved his gavel) through fairly simple actions. He chose not to do that.

Even after all that happened - January 6th, the debt limit crisis, his vengeance against our members, breaking his word to the President, impeachment, empowering the right wing - there were Democrats who were imho willing to help McCarthy if he had given them a reason. He didn’t.

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Dangerman  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:19:26am

re: #372 Hecuba’s daughter

Didn’t at least one of his attorneys get a retainer up front? Or was that for a different trial?

Kise in Florida

eta: but by now you all know this….grrr

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No Malarkey!  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:24:40am
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Vicious Babushka  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:24:40am
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Vicious Babushka  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:29:11am

re: #382 No Malarkey!

The singing Trump on AGT. [Embedded content]

Video

Fake Trump got some moves.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:32:57am

re: #382 No Malarkey!

The singing Trump on AGT. [Embedded content]

I wouldn’t be surprised if they sang 50 Cent’s P.I.M.P.

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sizzzzlerz  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:35:46am

re: #385 Joe Bacon ✅

I wouldn’t be surprised if they sang 50 Cent’s P.I.M.P.

or The Geto Boys “It’s Good to be a Gangster”

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:41:09am

Just waiting for Republicans to claim that they found Hunter’s other laptop in Nancy’s extra office…

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:42:34am

re: #378 dat_said

The University of Pennsylvania tried to claim some credit even though they let her go for the very paper she got the Nobel prize for, saying her work wasn’t sufficiently academic.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:42:41am

seems to be going well…

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Vicious Babushka  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:43:32am
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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:44:13am

What is that drunk asshole doing now?

Rudy Giuliani is SUING Joe Biden…

the-independent.com

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:45:56am

re: #388 Belafon

And here is an article regarding that matter:
whyy.org

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Dangerman  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:48:34am

yglesias gets one right: Don’t blame the dems

“I just reject the Republican establishmentarian spin that the real issue here is Democrats’ refusal to bail McCarthy out. My advice to Democrats was to not drive a hard bargain here — be a cheap date, want to get to yes. But if McCarthy wants Democrats to do something for him, he has to do something in return.”

“I understand he felt that he couldn’t offer any concessions for risk of further increasing the size of the rebellion, but that’s just another way of saying that the GOP caucus is dysfunctional. And people need to know that. Joe Biden is old, but he runs a competent professional administration. Republicans are running a shit show.”

“Importantly, the shit show is bigger than the handful of rebels. The rebels are absolutely part of it, but given that, the mainstream wing of the party has no choice but the cauterize the wound and make a deal with Democrats to keep McCarthy in the Speaker’s chair.”

“That means mainstream Republicans need to suck it up and offer Democrats something. They don’t need to like sucking it up, but that is the position the rebels put them in. And they just refused. That’s a top to bottom dysfunctional Republican caucus. People need to see and understand that.”

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Dangerman  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:52:04am
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Dangerman  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:52:57am

rando:

Republicans have gotten themselves into a situation where the mere act of working with Democrats in any capacity—never mind the details—is the most foul form of betrayal. And the “moderate” assholes who are now screaming that it’s all Democrats’ fault are just leaning harder into that

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Backwoods Sleuth  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:53:05am
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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:54:19am

re: #394 Dangerman

What Tom Nichols won’t do is lay the blame on right wing Pulpit Pimps from reciting the latest Frank Luntz GOP Talking Points and preaching hate every Sunday

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:57:48am

re: #396 Backwoods Sleuth

Leave it to John Fetterman to put it that bluntly. Thanks John.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Oct 4, 2023 • 9:57:49am
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Vicious Babushka  Oct 4, 2023 • 10:00:41am
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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2023 • 10:01:16am

re: #399 Backwoods Sleuth

A friend owns the “Bar Snoopy” in a pre-Roman town near Verona.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2023 • 10:01:31am

re: #400 Vicious Babushka

Fascists only need to win one election…

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2023 • 10:05:07am

re: #402 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Now that the Proud Boy Putsch is out of the way.

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2023 • 10:05:56am

Excellent reminder, that everything Trump claims outside the court gets fact checked by the taxing authorities, auditors, and investigators looking at Trump’s business dealings.

He has certified to state officials as to valuations. He’s made tax filings to that effect.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Oct 4, 2023 • 10:13:27am
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Dangerman  Oct 4, 2023 • 10:15:20am

re: #400 Vicious Babushka

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” meaning and rational arguments don’t matter. Controversy does.”

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2023 • 10:19:10am

re: #397 Joe Bacon ✅

What Tom Nichols won’t do is lay the blame on right wing Pulpit Pimps from reciting the latest Frank Luntz GOP Talking Points and preaching hate every Sunday

He doesn’t need to. Republicans are technically adults. Every one of them is responsible for their own choices.

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nines09  Oct 4, 2023 • 10:21:46am

Short McCarthy.
“I need the Democrats to bail me out of my ineptitude and as soon as they do I’ll go back to blaming them and screwing them and the nation.”
Democrats; GFY
“SEE? THEY DON’T WANT TO WORK WITH US!”

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Backwoods Sleuth  Oct 4, 2023 • 10:23:31am

re: #408 nines09

Short McCarthy.
“I need the Democrats to bail me out of my ineptitude and as soon as they do I’ll go back to blaming them and screwing them and the nation.”
Democrats; GFY
“SEE? THEY DON’T WANT TO WORK WITH US!”

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Vicious Babushka  Oct 4, 2023 • 10:30:11am
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mmmirele  Oct 4, 2023 • 10:30:41am

re: #282 Nojay UK

Mr Muhammad Adil, a British surgeon who has been one of the front-runners in the COVID conspiracy and anti-vaccination business has been struck off the Medical Register for being a prat, basically.

“Mr Adil used his position as a doctor in the UK to promote his opinions and his actions undermined public health and public confidence in the medical profession and were contrary to widely accepted medical opinion at the time.”

Note for US readers, he is in fact a doctor, the use of “Mr” to describe him is a common British form used when addressing a senior medical doctor, usually a surgeon or consultant.

Those who follow the conspiracy theorists in social media may recognise the name, Mr Adil’s proclamations are often used in “appeal to authority” arguments by anti-vaccination and Big Pharma conspiracy types.

Dude used *this* as an argument:

But he then doubled down on his original views, claiming he was entitled to ‘free speech’ under the European Convention on Human Rights, adding he had an unblemished clinical record and that his beliefs were aired outside work hours.

Yes, it’s the Daily Fail, but I thought the statement was just nuts: dailymail.co.uk . And why did I think it was nuts? Because Brexit. The UK took itself out of the European Union so I’m thinking the ECHR is probably not applicable in the UK anymore.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2023 • 10:39:35am

re: #409 Backwoods Sleuth

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This is all true — but the problem remains that any successor to McCarthy is likely to be a true believer in Trump who will refuse to negotiate and will bring our nation down, as opposed to a normal liar and hypocrite who is tethered to reality. Trump wants a shutdown with no money to Ukraine and that’s what these traitors will produce. Unless a miracle happens and who knows how this will proceed?

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mmmirele  Oct 4, 2023 • 10:40:10am

re: #321 Belafon

Just seeing Januvia on that list of drugs made me want to throw up, because when I took Januvia in the first few months of 2009, that’s what I *did*. Throw up. I’m also thinking that a 20 year patent is entirely too long for drugs. So yeah, MAKE ‘EM NEGOTIATE JOE!

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Nerdy Fish  Oct 4, 2023 • 10:42:28am

re: #412 Hecuba’s daughter

This is all true — but the problem remains that any successor to McCarthy is likely to be a true believer in Trump who will refuse to negotiate and will bring our nation down, as opposed to a normal liar and hypocrite who is tethered to reality. Trump wants a shutdown with no money to Ukraine and that’s what these traitors will produce. Unless a miracle happens and who knows how this will proceed?

That’s manifestly untrue. A hard-liner isn’t going to get enough votes. Democrats would never vote for them, and there still exist non-psychopath Republicans, who won’t vote for them either because they are allergic to train wrecks.


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