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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2023 • 10:51:18am

It’s not merely that stuff is “cheap” there. It’s that the company doesn’t value employees. It devalues them. It makes working there intolerable, and the mess of the stores is intrinsic to the company insistence on making profit at any cost. The reason the stores look like crap inside is that they don’t have enough workers to do the jobs. They often have far fewer workers than the average for that store footprint size, which means you’re left with choosing to get stuff stocked, help customers, or deal with other issues in the store.

Where people don’t have a choice but to buy stuff from the stores, you’re seeing employees who are treated like crap for a decision to work there too.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 20, 2023 • 10:56:54am

bsky.app

Remember Ben Gvir is the sick asshole flooding the West Bank with guns, the guy who was too fucking racist for the IDF to allow him to perform the normally mandatory national service and carry a gun himself, the criminal convicted of supporting a terrorist organization and the extremist who held up a hood ornament he stole from Yitzak Rabin’s Cadillac and said “We got to his car, and we’ll get to him too” a few weeks before a fellow pro settler extremist assassinated Rabin.

That’s the kind of dude Netanyahu not only formed a coalition with but put in charge of the Ministry of National Security.

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retired cynic  Nov 20, 2023 • 11:04:41am

re: #1 lawhawk

It’s not merely that stuff is “cheap” there. It’s that the company doesn’t value employees. It devalues them. It makes working there intolerable, and the mess of the stores is intrinsic to the company insistence on making profit at any cost. The reason the stores look like crap inside is that they don’t have enough workers to do the jobs. They often have far fewer workers than the average for that store footprint size, which means you’re left with choosing to get stuff stocked, help customers, or deal with other issues in the store.

Where people don’t have a choice but to buy stuff from the stores, you’re seeing employees who are treated like crap for a decision to work there too.

And the stuff is not cheap there, either. It’s in a “captive” area, and things are marked up.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2023 • 11:05:59am

re: #3 retired cynic

That’s why I put cheap in quotes. Sure, things may cost as little as $1, but that doesn’t make it cheap. On a per unit cost (by weight/volume/quantity), it may be more costly than buying in another venue.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 20, 2023 • 11:10:47am

Memories of the GC Murphy 5 & 10¢ store that had 20 people working in it including Mom when Dad was on Social Security disability.

Walk in any Dollar General and you’re lucky if you see more than 2 people working in it.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Nov 20, 2023 • 11:12:32am
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Vicious Babushka  Nov 20, 2023 • 11:12:47am

Zedushka loves Dollar Stores. I don’t understand his fixation, but when my mother-in-law passed away her house was full of useless shit that she bought “on sale.”

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William Lewis  Nov 20, 2023 • 11:13:36am

re: #4 lawhawk

That’s why I put cheap in quotes. Sure, things may cost as little as $1, but that doesn’t make it cheap. On a per unit cost (by weight/volume/quantity), it may be more costly than buying in another venue.

Yup. I know everyone here is familiar with this but it puts the concept so perfectly:

“The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.

Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.

But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that’d still be keeping his feet dry in ten years’ time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

This was the Captain Samuel Vimes ‘Boots’ theory of socioeconomic unfairness.”
― Terry Pratchett, Men at Arms: The Play

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 20, 2023 • 11:29:49am

Dollar Tree has some bread and butter pickles that are really good though.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Nov 20, 2023 • 11:38:24am

Playing around with Figmin XR. The Dalek moves, but the rest of the scene is static.

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2023 • 11:40:11am

@joshuaholland.bsky.social

Poll after poll finds people rating their own financial situation positively but saying the economy overall sucks and yet a lot of people insist that it’s just high prices and not relentlessly negative press coverage that’s driving this widespread economic pessimism we’re seeing.

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wrenchwench  Nov 20, 2023 • 11:42:15am

Exact opposite of local weather.

Mastodon

Here, it’s completely still, foggy and overcast.

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2023 • 11:43:50am

Biden Economy Pinches Media Bonuses

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A Cranky One  Nov 20, 2023 • 11:44:48am

From the previous thread:

re: #153 Teukka

In my line of work, it’s referred to as a “suicide cord”, and the handling of them according to holy writ is to kill them with fire and taking a pic of your confirmed kill…

One reason these are a bad idea is easy to explain.

Imagine sticking two bare wires into a wall socket and leaving them hanging. Obviously, touching them would result in a severe electric shock. Now image what happens when you plug such a cord into the wall socket. On the other end of the cord, you have the plug energized (essentially the same as the bare wire case). Touching the prongs will result in the same shock as the bare wire case.

So besides all the other problems mentioned, this is one reason these are called suicide cords.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Nov 20, 2023 • 11:50:20am
Lou Paskalis, a former executive at Bank of America and the CEO of marketing consultancy AJL Advisory, told Axios that Elon Musk is no longer a person that advertisers “can do business with.”

Paskalis told Axios he texted Yaccarino on Sunday and told her she should resign from her role at X. He was one of several marketing leaders to advise Yaccarino to resign, according to Axios and Forbes.

Yaccarino took over as the CEO of X, formerly known as Twitter, in June. She had previously served as NBCUniversal’s advertising chief.

“I think the advertising community is now working to save the reputation of a beloved member of our industry who does not share Elon Musk’s views and certainly did not know them when she accepted the role of CEO,” Paskalis told Axios. “If she did, she would not have accepted it.”

Despite the messages from multiple marketing leaders, Yaccarino is not considering leaving X, Forbes and Axios reported.

X CEO Linda Yaccarino is reportedly getting texts from ad execs advising her to resign over Elon Musk’s backing of antisemitic post (BI)

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2023 • 11:50:55am

re: #11 jaunte

From today:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2023 • 11:59:07am

re: #1 lawhawk

We exported most of our production of consumer goods to other countries, the only jobs remaining are at places like Wal-Mart or Dollar General selling that cheap imported crap at minimum wage with no benefits or job security, or even income security as they like to put their i employees on zero-hours contracts to be at the employer’s beck and call at all times.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:00:57pm

The USSR had “Ruble Marshall” stores: seventeen people standing around, low prices but almost nothing to sell…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:01:50pm

re: #16 lawhawk

That last bit about oil prices is key - despite oil prices falling significantly, prices at the pump are still higher than they otherwise would be based on barrel cost. Oil companies are still making record profits at everyone’s expense.

“A rising tide lifts all tankers!”

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:08:22pm

The Talking Asshole’s pick for Attorney General threatens to jail Mehdi Hassan and strip him of his citizenship because he said nasty things about him.

Make no mistake about it. If you won’t kiss The Talking Asshole’s ass Mike Davis will try to round you up and put you in a cell.

rawstory.com

MSNBC host Mehdi Hasan called out an attorney who threatened to jail him and revoke his citizenship if Donald Trump wins the presidency.

Mike Davis of the Article III Project made the threat after Hasan aired a report about who Trump could appoint in his next administration.

@mehdirhasan is now on my Lists 2 (indict), 4 (detain), 6 (denaturalize), and 3 (deport),” Davis wrote on X. “I already have his spot picked out in the DC gulag. But I’ll put him in the women’s cell block, with @Timodc. So these whiny leftists don’t get beat up as often.”

Hasan responded on Monday.

“Nothing to see here, just the former Gorsuch law clerk touted as Trump’s next attorney-general, threatening to indict, detain, & deport me (for what?) & put Tim Miller, who is gay, in a women’s prison,” the MSNBC host wrote. “Nothing at all unconstitutional, fascistic, or bigoted about any of this. 🤷🏽♂️”

Davis regularly appears on Fox News and MAGA media outlets like Steve Bannon’s War Room.

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Teukka  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:08:40pm

re: #14 A Cranky One

From the previous thread:

One reason these are a bad idea is easy to explain.

Imagine sticking two bare wires into a wall socket and leaving them hanging. Obviously, touching them would result in a severe electric shock. Now image what happens when you plug such a cord into the wall socket. On the other end of the cord, you have the plug energized (essentially the same as the bare wire case). Touching the prongs will result in the same shock as the bare wire case.

So besides all the other problems mentioned, this is one reason these are called suicide cords.

My electronics teach has two scars 19 mm c-c the distances of the prongs of a Schuko plug from such a mistake. And he’s the one who taught me the proper name of the abomination, and the methods of how to deal with such abominations according to holy writ…

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:14:23pm

More free COVID-19 tests from the government are available for home delivery through the mail.

Anyone who did not order a batch of four COVID-19 tests in September can secure up to eight of them this time around starting Monday at COVIDtests.gov. The U.S. Postal Service will deliver them for free.

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:15:54pm

re: #20 Joe Bacon ✅

@kevinmkruse.bsky.social

Remember, if a Dem state attorney general prosecutes Trump for crimes done in their jurisdiction, that’s wrong because then they’re not personally out preventing other crimes.

But if a GOP state AG wants to cape for Musk despite having absolutely no ties to the case? Well, that’s right and just.

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:16:34pm

@jbminn.bsky.social

Reply to Kevin M. Kruse
also? ‘fraudulent attack’? they signed up for the service, then used the service, then reported on the service

it’s nonsensical shrieking by poorly behaved parrots w/ personality disorders

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:16:58pm

re: #23 jaunte

Popehat @kenwhite.bsky.social
*
6s
Right-wing lunatics have generally lost performative defamation claims against critics; they’ve only succeeded in harassing and costing them piles of money. So now they are on to “it’s a crime to write a story about us if we argue the story is unfair or misleading.”

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:23:29pm

re: #25 Nerdy Fish

Popehat @kenwhite.bsky.social
*
6s
Right-wing lunatics have generally lost performative defamation claims against critics; they’ve only succeeded in harassing and costing them piles of money. So now they are on to “it’s a crime to write a story about us if we argue the story is unfair or misleading.”

Case in point Loony Laura Loomer.

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dat_said  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:24:51pm

KELOland: A new cost of climate change: $8.3B in crop insurance payouts to S.D. farmers

Between 2001 and 2022, South Dakota was among the top states in the nation for receiving insurance payouts for crop losses due to weather disasters, a trend environmentalists have said reveals a hidden but rapidly rising cost of climate change that is increasing the frequency and severity of storms that damage crops.”

American taxpayers have funded a large portion of the payouts, as nearly 65% of the premiums for the crop insurance program run by the U.S. Department of Agriculture are subsidized with federal funding.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:26:50pm

re: #27 dat_said

American taxpayers have funded a large portion of the payouts, as nearly 65% of the premiums for the crop insurance program run by the U.S. Department of Agriculture are subsidized with federal funding.

But that’s not socilism!!!

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:30:57pm

re: #28 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But that’s not socilism!!!

That depends. How does the skin of the people receiving the money look? It’s not too dark, is it? If so, SOCIALISM!!1!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:32:56pm

There is already a discussion going on in Germany about the utility of further subsidizing specialized high-yield but sensitive and water-hungry crops that fail when temperatures are too high and rainfall too scarce for the climate they were cross-bred for.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:34:08pm

re: #15 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Despite the messages from multiple marketing leaders, Yaccarino is not considering leaving X, Forbes and Axios reported.

Thereby confirming that she’s about to bail out.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:37:16pm

re: #27 dat_said

KELOland: A new cost of climate change: $8.3B in crop insurance payouts to S.D. farmers

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Crop insurance fraud is also rampant, here’s a fascinating article on one of the biggest cases ever discovered and prosecuted. If Trump gets back in office expect the intersection of unmitigated climate change, crop insurance fraud, deregulation, food insecurity and profiteering to churn in an endless positive feedback loop.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:37:43pm

re: #8 William Lewis

It’s my song about backpacks:

Parents buy their kids, and young adults buy their own, cheap polyester backpacks at Walmart that barely last a year.

I bought a North Face backpack many years ago, when they were all Nylon. Still holds up fine. Sure, it cost more upfront, but it lasts.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:39:09pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Thereby confirming that she’s about to bail out.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:40:52pm

re: #33 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I have a LLBean backpack from my college days and it is still going strong.

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dat_said  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:41:30pm

New BU Study Finds Tackle Football at Young Age Raises Risk for Brain Decline Later

Study released earlier this year but NYTimes published a related article late last week: nytimes.com

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:41:36pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:42:11pm

Hello Elon in the Musk
Are you entering the dusk?

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nines09  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:48:13pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

If musicians and performers left X, that would really hurt Elon.
Props to Neil.
I mean really. WTF more can this toad show you?
And yet….

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:49:27pm

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:51:37pm

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

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nines09  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:51:52pm

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

Well speak of the…..

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:52:48pm

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

OK what will Sleazy E push next? Jimmy Carter was a member of Rockefeller’s Trilateral Commission????????

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:54:48pm

re: #43 Joe Bacon ✅

OK what will Sleazy E push next? Jimmy Carter was a member of Rockefeller’s Trilateral Commission????????

Rosalyn was Brezhnev’s secret mistress

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2023 • 12:56:10pm

re: #43 Joe Bacon ✅

OK what will Sleazy E push next? Jimmy Carter was a member of Rockefeller’s Trilateral Commission????????

Carter was a secret alien who somehow survived what would have been a lethal dose of radiation in an “accident” “cleanup” effort.

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:03:25pm

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

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Jesus H. Fucking Christ. Whoever was in charge of maintaining the timeline for the 2020’s, you’re fucking fired. This place SUCKS.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:14:05pm

re: #46 Nerdy Fish

Jesus H. Fucking Christ. Whoever was in charge of maintaining the timeline for the 2020’s, you’re fucking fired. This place SUCKS.

It has had its occasional good moments but overall it’s been a disappointment.

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dat_said  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:15:15pm

KMSP: New St. Paul to Chicago train: MnDOT offer survey on extra train service

Would love an express between MSP and CHI (and maybe Milwaukee), but having another option for travel times makes this a bit appealing to me. This is a corridor that could support a high-speed express.

The current 8-to-9-hour travel time by train really isn’t that bad compared to the 6 or so hours to drive. Obviously can’t compare to flight times between the two but when you start needing to be at the airport two hours in advance, some of that flight time advantage disappears.

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jeffreyw  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:20:35pm

Back ups for the backups

Mastodon

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:21:11pm

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darthstar  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:22:21pm

re: #12 wrenchwench

Exact opposite of local weather.

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Here, it’s completely still, foggy and overcast.

Doggy with a chance of lots of burs to pull in our back yard. - Milo is a sticker magnet…just pulled a good 20 of them from him after a 3 minute play.

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darthstar  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:23:32pm

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

Is elon responding to a sarcasm account?

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dat_said  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:23:32pm

re: #48 dat_said

Huh - didn’t know that the MN legislature approved funding for the Northern Lights Express from Minneapolis to Duluth. That’s a project I’m not so sure about but could be interesting (now, if it went up the North Shore all the way to Grand Portage with stops at each state park along the way and room for a couple of electric bikes…..)

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Teukka  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:24:25pm

re: #50 Joe Bacon ✅

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*something* *something* under color of law *something* *something* ?

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:25:51pm

re: #52 darthstar

Is elon responding to a sarcasm account?

Nope, looks like a genuine nut job.

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A Cranky One  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:26:05pm

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:26:07pm

re: #38 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Hello Elon in the Musk
Are you entering the dusk?

Don’t let it bring you down,
Your equity is burning . . .

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sizzzzlerz  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:27:38pm

re: #14 A Cranky One

From the previous thread:

One reason these are a bad idea is easy to explain.

Imagine sticking two bare wires into a wall socket and leaving them hanging. Obviously, touching them would result in a severe electric shock. Now image what happens when you plug such a cord into the wall socket. On the other end of the cord, you have the plug energized (essentially the same as the bare wire case). Touching the prongs will result in the same shock as the bare wire case.

So besides all the other problems mentioned, this is one reason these are called suicide cords.

I’ll bite. What is such a cord used for?

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wrenchwench  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:32:02pm

re: #51 darthstar

Doggy with a chance of lots of burs to pull in our back yard. - Milo is a sticker magnet…just pulled a good 20 of them from him after a 3 minute play.

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Goathead stickers?

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Teukka  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:33:34pm

re: #58 sizzzzlerz

I’ll bite. What is such a cord used for?

Connecting a genset to a house. By people who don’t know what they’re doing. While people who do, do it with other connectors and some extra circuitry to prevent backfeeding to the grid, among other things.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:34:32pm

re: #1 lawhawk

There’s a Dollar General about six minutes up the road from me (shocking, I know. 😛)

Last week I was in there at around 3 PM. There were 10 other customers in the store and only ONE employee. The employee in question was helping a customer near the back of the store, leaving absolutely no one up front.

As I waited to use the self-check, I began pondering how much product simply walks out of the store on days like this because there is no employee presence at the registers.

And this wasn’t an isolated incident. I don’t remember the last time I was there and saw more than two employees on the floor.

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sizzzzlerz  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:34:37pm

re: #33 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s my song about backpacks:

Parents buy their kids, and young adults buy their own, cheap polyester backpacks at Walmart that barely last a year.

I bought a North Face backpack many years ago, when they were all Nylon. Still holds up fine. Sure, it cost more upfront, but it lasts.

Funny how that works. But it is exactly my philosophy when purchasing tools or camping gear. Of course, I’ve ignored that on occasion but without exception, its come back to bite me in the ass.

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:34:54pm

re: #60 Teukka

Connecting a genset to a house. By people who don’t know what they’re doing. While people who do, do it with other connectors and some extra circuitry to prevent backfeeding to the grid, among other things.

They are also often requested by people who are trying to plug strands of Christmas lights in backwards; some Christmas lights have female plugs on their top ends, to allow people to string multiple strands together without having to run multiple cords up into their tree. These are the dangerous ones.

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Teukka  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:37:51pm

So, one of the docs at al Shifa is … problematic … 🧵

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Teukka  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:39:55pm

re: #64 Teukka

So, one of the docs at al Shifa is … problematic … 🧵

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Another problematic doc:

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A Cranky One  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:42:48pm

re: #58 sizzzzlerz

Imagine you have a generator with a female plug (typical) where you plug in devices.

Now imagine you want to use the generator to power part of your house. One solution is to use a male-to-male plug where one side plugs into the generator and the other you plug into a wall socket on the house, which energizes that circuit in the house (so the wall socket is inserting the electricity from the generator to that circuit).

This is extremely dangerous for a number of reasons as previously noted, including fire hazard, potential electrocution of power line workers (you’ve energized the lines leading out of the house as well) as well as shock hazards to the person plugging in the cords.

Other reasons include using this type of wire as a gender changer (female to male plug).

All are dangerous and stupid solutions.

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Jay C  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:43:47pm

re: #22 jaunte

More free COVID-19 tests from the government are available for home delivery through the mail.

Just put it in - Thanks, Joe!

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:44:04pm
Both co-founders of Cruise have resigned from the company, following a month of turbulence for General Motors’ self-driving car subsidiary. Chief Product Officer Daniel Kan resigned on Monday, according to Reuters, one day after Kyle Vogt resigned from his duties as CEO, CTO, and President. Vogt and Kan exit the startup they launched in their garage 10 years ago, just weeks after Cruise recalled 950 robotaxis after one of them dragged a pedestrian in San Francisco.

“To my former colleagues at Cruise and GM - you’ve got this,” said Vogt in his resignation announcement on X. “Regardless of what originally brought you to work on AVs, remember why this work matters. The status quo on our roads sucks, but together we’ve proven there is something far better around the corner.”

Earlier this month, a public records request revealed Cruise vehicles had driven through active crime scenes and disrupted a motorcade escorting First Lady Jill Biden, spurring complaints from the San Francisco Police Department, reported Bloomberg. These complaints pile on to the gruesome event where a robotaxi drove over a woman and dragged her for 20 feet, causing California regulators to deem Cruise vehicles a hazard to public safety. These mishaps embarrassingly contradict Cruise’s safety mission, to “help make streets safer,” and “also make people feel safer.”

Both Cruise Co-founders Jump Ship After Vehicles Deemed Public Safety Hazard
That depends. How does the skin of the people receiving the money look?
(Gizmodo)

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:44:22pm
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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:45:36pm

re: #68 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

I am becoming more and more convinced that self-driving cars are never going to work. Just too many variables

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A Cranky One  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:48:18pm

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:48:19pm

re: #70 KGxvi

I am becoming more and more convinced that self-driving cars are never going to work. Just too many variables

The only way they’ll never work is if they’re banned. Computers and software are getting better and better, and people can be very unreliable.

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Vicious Babushka  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:50:40pm

re: #70 KGxvi

I am becoming more and more convinced that self-driving cars are never going to work. Just too many variables

Self-driving cars can only work on roads built specifically for self-driving cars & no human-operated vehicles.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:53:02pm

re: #15 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

X CEO Linda Yaccarino is reportedly getting texts from ad execs advising her to resign over Elon Musk’s backing of antisemitic post (BI)

“I think the advertising community is now working to save the reputation of a beloved member of our industry who does not share Elon Musk’s views and certainly did not know them when she accepted the role of CEO,” Paskalis told Axios.

Coulda fooled me. If you’re Nazi adjacent you’re a fucking Nazi.

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:55:09pm

re: #68 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

What if we put all that development money into electric buses instead.

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darthstar  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:55:19pm

Our neighbor came over to show us what our house looked like in 1998 and 1986.

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:55:35pm

Reinventing the trolley.

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A Cranky One  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:55:56pm

My youngest daughter told me she was scared when starting to drive because she felt all the other drivers knew what they were doing and she didn’t.

She later had an epiphany: the other drivers aren’t perfect, in fact many are idiots.

Until self-driving vehicles can deal with idiot drivers they aren’t a viable solution.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2023 • 1:58:52pm

UGHHHH. Eddie Glaude is on MSNBC. Have to turn it off. Remember this gem?
time.com

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Jay C  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:00:23pm

re: #77 jaunte

Reinventing the trolley.

So is “robo-trolley” is going to be a significant improvement in transit safety/efficiency?

Frida Kahlo might like a word…..

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:02:38pm

Who killed Houston’s streetcars?

“…As Streetcars had operated on the same 1890s fare for decades, Houston Electric (the streetcar company) eventually ran into financial trouble. Additionally, they were burdened by the city’s requirement that they bear the costs for paving streets where they extended their railways. This would essentially usher in their eventual downfall by subsidizing greater ease of mobility for private automobiles.”

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wrenchwench  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:11:02pm

Papua New Guinea

Mastodon

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sizzzzlerz  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:12:22pm

re: #81 jaunte

Who killed Houston’s streetcars?

Similar story to what happened to the street cars in LA. Graft and corruption played a major role there, as well. The movie Who Framed Roger Rabbit was (very) loosely based on that.

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wrenchwench  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:16:27pm

Birbies.

Mastodon

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:17:10pm

Hmm. Since a few people are talking about trollies I went to SEPTA and I got a Cloudflare error 1001. I just checked my iPhone and the app is working but the main site is still reading Error 1001. Very odd.

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Vicious Babushka  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:19:26pm
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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:23:11pm

re: #75 jaunte

What if we put all that development money into electric buses instead.

Americans would hate it. Most of the people who ride the bus here are doing so because they can’t afford a car or a place to park it.

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Semper Fi  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:27:32pm

re: #76 darthstar

Our neighbor came over to show us what our house looked like in 1998 and 1986.

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Looks like flood insurance may be a tough one.

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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:27:40pm

re: #45 lawhawk

Carter was a secret alien who somehow survived what would have been a lethal dose of radiation in an “accident” “cleanup” effort.

Unfortunately, that “accident” “cleanup” effort did transform him into the Amazing Colossal President.

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Vicious Babushka  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:33:06pm
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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:38:09pm

re: #90 Vicious Babushka

I miss my dad too.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:41:50pm

re: #87 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Americans would hate it. Most of the people who ride the bus here are doing so because they can’t afford a car or a place to park it.

Or they use the commute to sleep or read — neither of which is viable when you are driving. Or they hate driving in rush hour traffic and parking in downtown Chicago.

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ericblair  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:43:37pm

re: #87 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Americans would hate it. Most of the people who ride the bus here are doing so because they can’t afford a car or a place to park it.

Compared to most of the US, there’s fantastic public transit service in western European cities, and no stigma to taking the metro, tram, or bus. The Netherlands is famous for extensive and well-used bike infrastructure. Rush hour car traffic is still horrendous. People like their cars.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:44:55pm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:46:10pm

re: #94 Joe Bacon ✅

laugh harder

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:46:22pm

re: #94 Joe Bacon ✅

If they let her explain why that is happening.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:46:43pm

re: #93 ericblair

Compared to most of the US, there’s fantastic public transit service in western European cities, and no stigma to taking the metro, tram, or bus. The Netherlands is famous for extensive and well-used bike infrastructure. Rush hour car traffic is still horrendous. People like their cars.

Yes, I’d expect Europeans to be into it, but Americans love our cars, and it’s often inadvisable to be trapped on a bus, train, or airplane with Americans.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:48:13pm

Yale talking heads on threats to our democracy, I’ve linked to a point where one discusses the gerrymandering issue and it possibly spiraling out of control (because of the unique way US redistricting is done):

Is Our Democracy in Danger? An Expert Panel Covers the Latest Research

..

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:48:18pm

re: #94 Joe Bacon ✅

If it’s done condescendingly enough, so they know their place, I’m sure it’ll be fine.

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sizzzzlerz  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:53:04pm

re: #94 Joe Bacon ✅

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Because, as we all know, teenagers just love having explained to them why they can’t do something or why they have to do something.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:56:37pm

re: #14 A Cranky One

From the previous thread:

One reason these are a bad idea is easy to explain.

Imagine sticking two bare wires into a wall socket and leaving them hanging. Obviously, touching them would result in a severe electric shock. Now image what happens when you plug such a cord into the wall socket. On the other end of the cord, you have the plug energized (essentially the same as the bare wire case). Touching the prongs will result in the same shock as the bare wire case.

So besides all the other problems mentioned, this is one reason these are called suicide cords.

When I was about 10 years old I read about coper plating and decided that I wanted to do some. I had a goldfish bowl and some copper sulphate and reasoned that if a small trickle charge would take days or weeks that strong power would make it faster.

So I stuck a wire coat hanger in each hole in the wall outlet, very carefully of course, put the bowl of loaded water below the two ends and carefully, I thought, dropped them into the bowl.

I woke up across the room against the wall and my parents never figured out what had happened to the ruined power outlet.

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sizzzzlerz  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:57:20pm

re: #94 Joe Bacon ✅

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Hey, Nikki, next do why they must have their rapists baby!

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:58:14pm

re: #22 jaunte

More free COVID-19 tests from the government are available for home delivery through the mail.

Thank you. 8 tests on their way.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:58:47pm

re: #102 sizzzzlerz

Hey, Nikki, next do why they must have their rapists baby!

Nikki is making sure that child will be raised in an AMERICAN Skinner Box.

[wipes away manly tears, salutes an eagle flying by carrying the flag]

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Semper Fi  Nov 20, 2023 • 2:59:48pm

re: #101 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

When I was about 10 years old I read about coper plating and decided that I wanted to do some. I had a goldfish bowl and some copper sulphate and reasoned that if a small trickle charge would take days or weeks that strong power would make it faster.

So I stuck a wire coat hanger in each hole in the wall outlet, very carefully of course, put the bowl of loaded water below the two ends and carefully, I thought, dropped them into the bowl.

I woke up across the room against the wall and my parents never figured out what had happened to the ruined power outlet.

You got away with it…good on ya. Hah

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2023 • 3:03:47pm

re: #96 PhillyPretzel ✅

If they let her explain why that is happening.

But who’s going to explain it to Nikki?

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 20, 2023 • 3:04:13pm

re: #33 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s my song about backpacks:

Parents buy their kids, and young adults buy their own, cheap polyester backpacks at Walmart that barely last a year.

I bought a North Face backpack many years ago, when they were all Nylon. Still holds up fine. Sure, it cost more upfront, but it lasts.

There is an old adage. “Poor people can not afford cheap shoes” The less you have, the more you need things that last long.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Nov 20, 2023 • 3:04:58pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 20, 2023 • 3:06:10pm

re: #106 BeachDem

But who’s going to explain it to Nikki?

The observation I make is that we are now talking about Nikki, and not Trump.

This is what the deep pockets funding the GOP wish. They are hoping Nikki will be the default nominee when Trump goes to jail/prison.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 20, 2023 • 3:09:12pm

The polling aggregate shows Haley catching up to DeSantis, as she is rising consistently and DeSantis has flatlined after the decline a couple of months ago.

Expect more Nikki on your TV screens in coming months.

She is the chosen one.

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2023 • 3:09:33pm

re: #109 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The observation I make is that we are now talking about Nikki, and not Trump.

This is what the deep pockets funding the GOP wish. They are hoping Nikki will be the default nominee when Trump goes to jail/prison.

You keep saying that, but there is SOOOOO much ugly stuff about Nikki that any good Dem oppo researcher will be able to find in about 20 minutes. She’s a dirtball, both in her political and private backgrounds. So let them throw their money at the opportunistic liar—she is truly horrible.

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EPR-radar  Nov 20, 2023 • 3:11:35pm

re: #111 BeachDem

You keep saying that, but there is SOOOOO much ugly stuff about Nikki that any good Dem oppo researcher will be able to find in about 20 minutes. She’s a dirtball, both in her political and private backgrounds. So let them throw their money at the opportunistic liar—she is truly horrible.

She’s even worse than a generic Republican? That’s getting ever more difficult to do.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Nov 20, 2023 • 3:13:24pm

Mastodon

Pet owners beware: An unusual respiratory illness in dogs that does not respond to antibiotics is being investigated in several states across the U.S.

Oregon, Colorado and New Hampshire are among the states that have seen cases of the illness, which has caused lasting respiratory disease and pneumonia. Symptoms of respiratory illness in dogs include coughing, sneezing, nasal or eye discharge and lethargy. Some cases of the pneumonia progress quickly, making dogs very sick within 24 to 36 hours.

“Unfortunately, right now, nobody knows what it is,” veterinarian Dr. Mike Hutchinson told CBS News Pittsburgh.

“When that happens, you should see your veterinarian because we’re going to treat those symptoms. And for viruses, there’s really no good anti-viral on the market. However, we can support the symptoms sometimes by nebulizing them or giving them some support, fluids, things that they need,” said Hutchinson.

The Oregon Department of Agriculture has documented more than 200 cases of the disease since mid-August, encouraging pet owners to contact their vet if their dog is sick and told state veterinarians to report cases as soon as possible.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Nov 20, 2023 • 3:14:37pm

re: #94 Joe Bacon ✅

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Ok, Nikki, you first.

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Belafon  Nov 20, 2023 • 3:15:47pm

I learned something from a YouTube video about the coach seats on the Amtrak train. There are two levers. The top one controls the recline of the seat, but I couldn’t figure out the bottom one, until the YouTube video showed me there’s a leg rest that you can manually raise and lower with the lever. Sooooo much better.

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coin operated  Nov 20, 2023 • 3:27:23pm

re: #111 BeachDem

You keep saying that, but there is SOOOOO much ugly stuff about Nikki that any good Dem oppo researcher will be able to find in about 20 minutes. She’s a dirtball, both in her political and private backgrounds. So let them throw their money at the opportunistic liar—she is truly horrible.

This is what I keep coming back to…an intern could build an oppo catalogue on Nikki without breaking a sweat. The attack ads would write themselves.

FWIW…Clinton had an extensive oppo catalogue on Bernie. I remain convinced she held back using a good chunk of it so as not to alienate voters in the general. Trump would have torn him to shreds.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 20, 2023 • 3:40:32pm

re: #94 Joe Bacon ✅

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Abortion is one thing for a lot of young women and girls but trust me on this - Banning Tik Tok will make eternal enemies of nearly all of them of anyone who tries.

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2023 • 3:42:57pm

re: #116 coin operated

This is what I keep coming back to…an intern could build an oppo catalogue on Nikki without breaking a sweat. The attack ads would write themselves.

FWIW…Clinton had an extensive oppo catalogue on Bernie. I remain convinced she held back using a good chunk of it so as not to alienate voters in the general. Trump would have torn him to shreds.

And also remember, Jaime Harrison was State Dem Party Chair for most of Nikki’s governorship. He knows where all the bodies are buried, so to speak.

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 20, 2023 • 4:14:14pm

re: #81 jaunte

Who killed Houston’s streetcars?

On or about the same time there was a push (and sometimes a buyout of streetcar companies) by GM for municipalities to convert to GM buses which didn’t require laying or maintaining tracks.

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darthstar  Nov 20, 2023 • 6:16:19pm

re: #88 Semper Fi

Looks like flood insurance may be a tough one.

It is but not because of the location. Global warming has insurance companies dropping disaster insurance faster than a Republican senators’s rent boy.

I called a bunch of places and my last hope was AAA and the woman on the phone at the Santa Rosa office said, literally, “Holy shit, I can cover you.” I sent her a box of salted caramels from a boutique chocolatier in SF after we closed on the house.

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steve_davis  Nov 20, 2023 • 7:28:09pm

re: #108 Backwoods Sleuth

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i’m just imagining opening my front door one evening and having that m’fer looking at me from the other side of thescreen. fuuuuuuck.


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