The Bob Cesca Interview: Simon Rosenberg Returns

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Simon Rosenberg Returns — If you’re freaked out by the polls, you should listen to this episode with the great Simon Rosenberg. You might know Simon from the New Democrat Network, or Twitter (@SimonWDC), or MSNBC, or his Substack The Hopium Chronicles, or from such podcasts as this one. Today we talked about the disconnect between the economy and the polling, the importance of fundraising as a metric, the age issue, and more. I assure you, you’ll feel better once you’ve listened to Simon today. Meantime, don’t forget to support this podcast by subscribing us on Patreon – bobcescashow.com. Music by I Hate You Just Kidding.

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darthstar Mar 13, 2024 • 4:14:16pm

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darthstar Mar 13, 2024 • 4:15:37pm

CNN showing clips of the Lemon-Musk interview…Lemon saying that Musk is getting most of his talking points from right wing conspiracy nuts…just talked about Elon’s drug use…alleged drug use… to Erin Burnett.

🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Mar 13, 2024 • 4:17:07pm

Kids can live long, fullish lives without vaccination. This unlucky man was 15 years too early for the vaccine. I expect that he was vaccinated for the covid that got him.

Texas man who used an iron lung for decades after contracting polio as a child dies at 78

DALLAS (AP) — A Texas man who spent most of his 78 years using an iron lung chamber and built a large following on social media, recounting his life from contracting polio in the 1940s to earning a law degree, has died.

Paul Alexander died Monday at a Dallas hospital, said Daniel Spinks, a longtime friend. He said Alexander had recently been hospitalized after being diagnosed with COVID-19 but did not know the cause of death.

apnews.com

sizzzzlerz Mar 13, 2024 • 4:18:42pm

Just back from planet Arrakis and my ears are still ringing. It was an exceptional film, especially in IMAX format, with lots of impossibly huge spaceships, sandworms, loud explosions, messianic worshiping, and, to my surprise, Christopher Walken. It is a worthy follow-on to the first film and it continues to be fairly faithful to the Herbert’s novel. My only complaint is at the beginning, it seemed that that some the storyline was left on the cutting room floor so that the transition between several scenes felt a bit jarring. I also didn’t recall how the first film ended so it seemed like certain events had taken place off-camera. Otherwise, it was an enjoyable 2-1/2 hours and is definitely worth seeing if you’re into that sort of movie.

No Malarkey! Mar 13, 2024 • 4:18:50pm

Aaron Rodgers, NY Jets QB and potential VP running mate of RFK JR , believes the Sandy Hook massacre was staged. cnn.com

Unabogie Mar 13, 2024 • 4:19:41pm

re: #5 No Malarkey!

Aaron Rodgers, NY Jets QB and potential VP running mate of RFK JR , believes the Sandy Hook massacre was staged. cnn.com

Once you accept one conspiracy theory, it’s easy to get you to believe all of them.

sizzzzlerz Mar 13, 2024 • 4:21:01pm

re: #5 No Malarkey!

Aaron Rodgers, NY Jets QB and potential VP running mate of RFK JR , believes the Sandy Hook massacre was staged. cnn.com

Was he always the asshole or is it the chronic traumatic encephalopathy doing the talking?

teleskiguy Mar 13, 2024 • 4:22:49pm

Four years ago today I got out of jail after serving 60 days, and I walk out into a world collapsing. Two hours after I got home Governor Jared Polis shut the ski industry in Colorado down.

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Mar 13, 2024 • 4:24:16pm

Continuing on my focus on climate change, here’s a podcast from a channel that I categorize as “soft doomer”, and I’ve started the podcast around the 27 minute mark as the host and guest dive into end-of-life care and the big picture:

Bonus: An Inconvenient Apocalypse with Bob Jensen

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It’s a tough subject, rationing of health care. As the guest noted, the cry of DEATH PANELS! is an example of that difficulty.

These are topics that are off of the national political agenda for elections.

We just can’t face them.

Joe Bacon ✅ Mar 13, 2024 • 4:33:49pm

re: #5 No Malarkey!

Aaron Rodgers, NY Jets QB and potential VP running mate of RFK JR , believes the Sandy Hook massacre was staged. cnn.com

PLEASE PICK HIM, RFK!

JC1 Mar 13, 2024 • 4:35:08pm

re: #5 No Malarkey!

Aaron Rodgers, NY Jets QB and potential VP running mate of RFK JR , believes the Sandy Hook massacre was staged. cnn.com

This will not be well received in NYC.

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Mar 13, 2024 • 4:36:25pm

re: #9 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So… ok… let me do BOTHSIDES! and offer up another video, from yesterday:

Youtube Video

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I guess that gathering is what doomers call “hopium”.

The first guest speaker is Kathryn Murdoch. For those who don’t know, she’s the daughter-in-law of none other than Big Daddy Rupert.

Because she’s a somebody, she can get her production of a new short series on PBS.

I’m very cynical here because one thing for certain is that the lifestyle of Kathryn is most certainly not only not sustainable but her own clique of high rollers are very high carbon emitters by their very nature.

And that is what is so difficult. Contemporary lifestyles of anyone who gathers at an Aspen Institute meeting just cannot have a future.

🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Mar 13, 2024 • 4:37:32pm

re: #5 No Malarkey!

Aaron Rodgers, NY Jets QB and potential VP running mate of RFK JR , believes the Sandy Hook massacre was staged. cnn.com

Liberals will come for you if you question the narrative, even when you think you’re speaking privately with friends. This isn’t about Aaron. They could do it to any VP candidate who lies about massacres. You could be next!

7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course) Mar 13, 2024 • 4:37:41pm

re: #12 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

And that is what is so difficult. Contemporary lifestyles of anyone who gathers at an Aspen Institute meeting just cannot have a future.

Who gets to decide who gets to waste* carbon and for what purpose?

* Kind of a pun.

Belafon Mar 13, 2024 • 4:39:35pm

The Monarch and Dr. Girlfriend debating the sexuality of a member of Depeche Mode almost killed me. That was even better than the Johnny Quest reference earlier.

Ace Rothstein Mar 13, 2024 • 4:39:45pm

re: #7 sizzzzlerz

Was he always the asshole or is it the chronic traumatic encephalopathy doing the talking?

It’s no mystery why his family wants nothing to do with him.

BeenHereAwhile Mar 13, 2024 • 4:47:57pm

re: #108 darthstar

.time to find something to watch that isn’t people obsessing about Trump. Watched Damsel on Monday - kind of fun dragon/chick flick - Think I’ll find some foreign language film and give that a watch.

“The Gentlemen” on Netflix.
Good story line, and a little different.

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Mar 13, 2024 • 4:52:28pm

Everyone wants to feel good about themselves.

So the enlightened, the well educated, gather to talk to each other about how great a job they are doing.

But while I am not pro-doomer, I consider myself a realist with a bent towards cynicism about us humans.

We are a territorial animal prone to aggression.

Many animals are territorial, but our aggression is really tops in the primate world.

We do something that, to the best of my knowledge, other primates and animals do not do: we bank our aggression.

That is, we save up our feelings, grievances, and beliefs until we let them out strategically to further ourselves.

This ability of ours to have knowledge of past-present-future is of course one of the hallmarks of our species. We anticipate our death and that seems to make us special.

Thinking technology will save us is escapism.

Thinking anything will save us is escapism.

Because ||save us|| is an illusion. Or maybe it’s a delusion. Regardless, it’s not real.

There is no saving. Evangelical Christians are just wrong about that.

And that is why I object to the claims of the likes of that Aspen Institute presentation by K. Murdoch et. al.

They think they can save us through enough social engineering.

Their ideology is a distorted form of Christianity (and similar religions.)

And that is why the UNFCC COP meetings are farces. It’s all a face-painted folly, applications of make-up to make it seem we are saving ourselves, from an ugly reality.

And the people who gather in these groups perhaps really do convince themselves that they can be saviors.

I am highly skeptical that social engineering will work. At least not without some accompanying genetic engineering which opens up moral dilemmas that are too great in themselves.

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Mar 13, 2024 • 4:54:43pm

Well, I’ve been verbose this afternoon.

Charles Mar 13, 2024 • 4:56:22pm

Released more than 50 years ago in 1970, the only album ever recorded by this amazing trio. This remix of the epic song “Laughin’ Tackle” is terrific, much clearer than the original, makes the string arrangement really come out front.

These guys were way ahead of their time.

PETER ROBINSON: Hammond organ, clavinet, electric piano, arrangements
JOHN GUSTAFSON: Bass guitar
MICK UNDERWOOD: Drums

QUATERMASS: “Laughin’ Tackle” (2013 re-mix)

Belafon Mar 13, 2024 • 4:58:18pm

I blame Apple for negotiating higher e-book prices with publishers, screwing consumers:

Local libraries are struggling as book publishers charge three times as much for digital books as physical ones—and they don’t even get to keep them

fortune.com

wrenchwench Mar 13, 2024 • 5:00:31pm

re: #18 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I don’t think genetic engineering is needed to make ‘social engineering’ work. There is a genetic component to behavior, but I think the non-genetic components are much larger.

ckkatz Mar 13, 2024 • 5:00:43pm

From downstairs:

re: #152 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Might I ask which vacuum pack machine you use? And if you would recommend it?

I have been looking at getting one.

As a single person, it seems it would be convenient to be able to purchase in bulk, as well as to cook up larger than a few single portions and then repack and freeze.

silverdolphin Mar 13, 2024 • 5:05:15pm

Here’s the Real Person to Blame for That GOP Prosecutor Who Shivved Biden

In a just world, Garland would have already resigned. Most dangerous AG since Mitchell? Maybe.

Patricia Kayden Mar 13, 2024 • 5:07:32pm

darthstar Mar 13, 2024 • 5:08:13pm

re: #23 ckkatz

From downstairs:

Might I ask which vacuum pack machine you use? And if you would recommend it?

I have been looking at getting one.

As a single person, it seems it would be convenient to be able to purchase in bulk, as well as to cook up larger than a few single portions and then repack and freeze.

I got a basic FoodSaver at Costco a few years back…design has changed but they’re all pretty much the same - bags are clear on one side and a little textured on the other - just keep the textured side up when sealing as the heating element comes down from the top.

I’ll buy three rib-eyes at Costco or a bunch of lamb loin chops and freeze them in individual portions. If you season the meat before freezing it you can take it straight from the freezer and put it in the sous vide and let it sit at 130 degrees for a few hours until you’re ready to sear it and serve.

darthstar Mar 13, 2024 • 5:11:30pm

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wrenchwench Mar 13, 2024 • 5:14:05pm

re: #27 darthstar

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The pigeon has had a few extra eons to evolve. Unfair!

Nerdy Fish Mar 13, 2024 • 5:14:07pm

re: #27 darthstar

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Internally, the big data centers for the big cloud providers move mass amounts of data on hard drives and cards in trucks and on planes. A 737 with a cargo hold of SD cards has more bandwidth than the transatlantic fiber links.

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Mar 13, 2024 • 5:14:46pm

re: #22 wrenchwench

I don’t think genetic engineering is needed to make ‘social engineering’ work. There is a genetic component to behavior, but I think the non-genetic components are much larger.

Encourage you to listen to the podcast I posted.

The conversation turns to human nature, and how we have evolved to live in small groups.

It is the reason why online anonymous communities can turn so toxic. Unless there is strong enforcement (as here on LGF) by a known real person, social media turns toxic because we can just ignore the wishes/feelings of the other anonymous actor.

This all folds into our inability to have meaningful large scale decision making outside of strong authoritarianism.

So as a species we are locked into decision making for small groups, but today we live in massive groups.

It’s very discordant, our biology and our built civilization.

And that is why the path to “net zero” is paved by good intention but is ineffective.

We will stop burning coal when we run out of it. And the same for the rest of the fossil fuel civilization.

Eugenic concepts of social engineering could get us to a managed society, where a smaller population exists and people are engineered, biologically, for certain tasks. Limiting breeding it the most important one.

But that is a path that I and most people find about as horrible of a path that a path can be.

ckkatz Mar 13, 2024 • 5:18:42pm

re: #26 darthstar

I got a basic FoodSaver at Costco a few years back…design has changed but they’re all pretty much the same - bags are clear on one side and a little textured on the other - just keep the textured side up when sealing as the heating element comes down from the top.

I’ll buy three rib-eyes at Costco or a bunch of lamb loin chops and freeze them in individual portions. If you season the meat before freezing it you can take it straight from the freezer and put it in the sous vide and let it sit at 130 degrees for a few hours until you’re ready to sear it and serve.

Thank you!

You answer exactly the question that I have.

There are articles going into the minute technological differences between different machines. But none really goes into what it means to be “Good enough” for the “use cases” I am looking at.

You also bring up the “what’s the next step” question. That is, how to get the frozen item ready for cooking. I was wondering about that.

And yes, I was looking at whether it was possible to invest in a Costco bulk pack, prepping and freezing that. Although Costco does use a blade-tenderizer on some of it’s meat.

Quick follow on question: Do you get many failures. Although I am not completely certain what ‘failure’ means.

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Mar 13, 2024 • 5:20:03pm

That Spartacus clip posted earlier is powerful because it strikes at the heart of a human’s desire to be free.

If I had to pick between two paths:
1) Genus Homo can continue for another 300,000 years if our population becomes managed, like a herd of cattle, with selective breeding (genetic engineering) and culling, with decisions about who gets to live and when people get to die, though the engineering efforts of a subset of specialists empowered to rule; and
2) we just let ourselves go extinct;

… I think the second choice is the one I would make.

Joe Bacon ✅ Mar 13, 2024 • 5:23:30pm

J.K. Rowling Adds “Nazis Didn’t Go After Trans healthcare & research” to Her Transphobia

And who defends her?

If you guessed “Bari Weiss” BINGO!

J.K. Rowling is once again making ignorant and anti-trans comments online. On Wednesday, the Harry Potter author’s name began trending on X thanks to an ill-advised post in which she denied the claim that Nazis burned “books on trans healthcare and research.”

“I just… how?” Rowling wrote above a screenshot of a nameless user’s post. “How did you type this out and press send without thinking ‘I should maybe check my source for this, because it might’ve been a fever dream’?”“

Soon afterward, many X users—including the extremely online actor George Takei—replied to Rowling’s tweet to point out, as Takei wrote, “This is in fact true.”

As Scientific American notes, Adolf Hitler’s campaign to rid Germany of Lebensunwertes Leben—meaning, “lives unworthy of living”—led to the mass extermination of several communities, including Jewish people and homosexuals and transgender people. According to the Holocaust Remembrance Day Trust—a charity established and funded by the United Kingdom’s government—May 6, 1933 marked the infamous day when Nazi-supporting youth broke into the Institute of Sexology. Days later, the Nazi youth groups burned the library’s looted contents (and tens of thousands of other texts) in the streets.

The Holocaust Remembrance Day Trust describes the Institute of Sexology as having “achieved a global reputation for its pioneering work on transsexual understanding and calls for equality for homosexuals, transgender people and women.” Scientific American, meanwhile, notes that the organization contained the world’s first trans clinic.

When Alejandra Caraballo, a clinical instructor at Harvard Cyberlaw Clinic, confronted Rowling on X for, as she put it, “engaging in Holocaust denial,” the author came back with a strange reply, in which she chided that neither of the articles Caraballo had included in her response “support the contention that trans people were the first victims of the Nazis or that all research on trans healthcare was burned in 1930s Germany.”

Afterward, when Caraballo pressed Rowling to explain how her original post insinuated as such, Rowling responded with a screenshot of an entirely different post. Caraballo pointed out as much in her final comeback, and included a GIF of soccer players moving goalposts across a field. As of the time of writing—five hours later—Rowling has not responded.

Rowling has been spouting anti-trans rhetoric for years now, although she’s insisted that she “never set out to upset anyone.” Last year came The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling, a podcast from Bari Weiss’ The Free Press that framed the author as a survivor of a larger culture war. Predictably, the project included just enough opposition to Rowling to skate by, but not enough to truly capture the full argument. Regardless, it appears that Rowling won’t be letting this go anytime soon.

thedailybeast.com

Hecuba's daughter Mar 13, 2024 • 5:24:31pm

re: #6 Unabogie

Once you accept one conspiracy theory, it’s easy to get you to believe all of them.

I don’t share that view because there are different kinds of CTs and it’s more about what type you are susceptible to. A girl friend and I are both believers in the same genre — the assassination of JFK was not the work of a lone gunman acting by himself, though we don’t agree on the specific one. I have always believed the Mafia was involved.

FFL (GOP Delenda Est) Mar 13, 2024 • 5:24:38pm

re: #31 ckkatz

Main reason I have avoided going down the route of bulk buying and breaking the food down to small servings is a lack of freezer space. And the apartment really would not facilitate well me adding a separate freezer of my own.

Charles Mar 13, 2024 • 5:27:56pm

I’m so old I remember when you could keep trolls from registering over and over with an IP ban.

Captain Magic Mar 13, 2024 • 5:34:39pm

re: #27 darthstar

Never underestimate the bandwidth of an Airbus A380 filled with 1 terabyte microSDXC Chips…

TedStriker Mar 13, 2024 • 5:35:26pm

re: #37 Captain Magic

Never underestimate the bandwidth of an Airbus A380 filled with 1 terabyte microSDXC Chips…

Thiccccc bandwidth

Belafon Mar 13, 2024 • 5:38:31pm

Actor Olivia Munn was diagnosed with breast cancer last year, she announced on social media Wednesday. She said she’s had four surgeries in the last 10 months, including a double mastectomy.

cbsnews.com

Joe Bacon ✅ Mar 13, 2024 • 5:41:14pm

A fellow Republican accused former Arizona Republican Party Chairwoman Kelli Ward of assault during the state party’s January meeting at a Phoenix church.

According to a police report obtained by the Arizona Mirror, Ward is accused of hitting a woman who criticized Ward’s involvement at the meeting, as she was no longer the party chair.

“I saw (Ward) turn back and lean over the first chair on her right and hit a woman in black with a yellow piece of paper,” a Phoenix police officer wrote in the report after viewing security camera footage from the Dream City Church where the event was being held. “She had the paper in her right hand and hit the woman in her right shoulder. It looked to be a fairly light tap on the video.”

The annual meeting was full of contentious moments as state committee members voted to elect Gina Swoboda to lead the party only days after the former chairman, Jeff DeWitt, resigned amid allegations of bribery by failed gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake. Ward was reported to have cut in line and taken a microphone from one attendee’s hand.

Both Ward and the woman involved have different recollections of the incident.

Ward did not return messages seeking comment.

rawstory.com

ckkatz Mar 13, 2024 • 5:42:54pm

re: #35 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Main reason I have avoided going down the route of bulk buying and breaking the food down to small servings is a lack of freezer space. And the apartment really would not facilitate well me adding a separate freezer of my own.

I hear you.

I am, I guess, very fortunate in owning my own home. If I had to suddenly leave, I would certainly lose a lot of things.

It’s a case of mobility versus comfort, I guess. In the Army they used to say “Travel light, freeze at night”. Of course, handling “freezing at night” was considered something of a measure of Army ‘Strac’. (Skilled and tough, although more than one wag has pointed out that on occasion it looks remarkably similar to ‘dumb’)

I made a decision to not purchase a separate freezer. Mostly because if I did so, I would likely end up storing far more food than I, as a single person, could possibly eat over several years. If I had the responsibilities of feeding multiple people, I would feel comfortable in looking at that decision again.

silverdolphin Mar 13, 2024 • 5:45:09pm

re: #30 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Yep, there is always a tragedy of the commons unless there are strong regulations. We are pretty much hardwired to only be able to rely on a community of about 150 or so to in order to be organized to make good decisions. That is without technology to augment our social structure.

But over the last 50,000 or so years we have found technologies that allow us to manipulate and adapt those organizational structures to create tremendously complex cultures. Using technology, we have enhanced information flow between larger and larger groups, and thus enhance wise decision making. The size of our effective communities has increased exponentially using technology to help reorganize our societies to deal with new, complex cultural environments. Those that failed to adapt collapsed and disappeared. Just lke the Dodo.

Our communities of community now measure in the millions and are now more strongly defined by their democratic, distributed approaches rather than their hierarchies (although both are required). Information must flow rapidly between communities, just like our blood stream flows rapidly between different organs. But this requires technology to enhance our hardwired systems. Without IT to connect the huge number of communities needed to survive in today’s cultural environment we would not be able to succeed or thrive.

We can already see successful and novel commnities that are organized very differently than those of the last 100 years. Their approaches will inevitably replace the current Dodo communities relying on out of date organizational structures. An older society wll collapse and die even as a new one rises in its place.

This will lead, as it has at least 6 times in the last 250 years, into a relatively stable social organizational structure and an economic Golden Age for the many communities connected by IT. Until the need for new organizational change arises again. And then we will be tested again to see if we continue moving forward or collapse back to a previous social structure..

BlueSpotinAL ✅ Mar 13, 2024 • 5:49:25pm

re: #41 ckkatz

I hear you.

I am, I guess, very fortunate in owning my own home. If I had to suddenly leave, I would certainly lose a lot of things.

It’s a case of mobility versus comfort, I guess. In the Army they used to say “Travel light, freeze at night”. Of course, handling “freezing at night” was considered something of a measure of Army ‘Strac’. (Skilled and tough, although more than one wag has pointed out that on occasion it looks remarkably similar to ‘dumb’)

I made a decision to not purchase a separate freezer. Mostly because if I did so, I would likely end up storing far more food than I, as a single person, could possibly eat over several years. If I had the responsibilities of feeding multiple people, I would feel comfortable in looking at that decision again.

For my 65th Birthday party, we had a lot of cake left over. A few days later, my wife asked where the cake was, I said the beer fridge. She comes back with no cake, saying that she couldn’t find it. Eventually I realized where she looked, and I said “It is in the other beer refrigerator in the garage. “

GlutenFreeJesus Mar 13, 2024 • 5:51:51pm

re: #31 ckkatz

Food Saver would be just fine. Personally I have a VacMaster chamber sealer. Overkill for your needs.

If you don’t do sous vide, you can just thaw overnight in the fridge. No need to season before sealing/freezing either. Do that when you’re about to cook. 😎

I get my bags from this place. Might want to call/email them to double check the best bags for whatever machine you need up getting. :)

vacuumsealersunlimited.com

Charles Mar 13, 2024 • 5:51:54pm

Joe Bonamassa: Let’s talk about Jeff Beck…

Romantic Heretic Mar 13, 2024 • 5:56:03pm

re: #30 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The conversation turns to human nature, and how we have evolved to live in small groups.

We are not thinking machines that feel but rather feeling machines that think. - Antonio Dimasio

That sums up human nature for me.

I agree that we’ve changed the world we live in faster than evolution could adapt our species for it.

Charles Mar 13, 2024 • 5:56:16pm

I saw Jeff Beck with Beck, Bogert & Appice at the HIC Concert Hall sometime in the early 70s, and he seriously messed my mind up.

I smuggled a cassette recorder into the concert and used to listen to that low-fi tape over and over. Beck’s super-fast hammer-on trill was amazing.

Charles Mar 13, 2024 • 6:00:08pm

And also, Jeff Beck played REALLY FUCKING LOUD. Almost painful. It’s no wonder he had hearing issues.

teleskiguy Mar 13, 2024 • 6:00:53pm

My second Instagram post ever. A picture of the cover of my Dad’s copy of Jeff Beck’s debut album.

wrenchwench Mar 13, 2024 • 6:04:20pm

re: #30 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Encourage you to listen to the podcast I posted.

I listened to the first 40 minutes, so far.

When they started talking about Guns, Germs, and Steel, I knew why there was a familiarity to the discussion. And I majored in sociology (and much of what I learned is thought of differently now). What they’re talking about can have other, more accurate explanations, and they almost say why when they mention being old white guys. Anyway, I gotta hear more and think more, then I’ll argue with them more.

Thanks for posting it.

mmmirele Mar 13, 2024 • 6:07:13pm

re: #40 Joe Bacon ✅

Just wanted to emphasize that the Arizona GOP reached out to not just ANY church, but to a megachurch (legally “The First Assembly of God of Phoenix”) that has rented their entire campus out to “Turning Point.”

And, way to tell people who are not Evangelical, “hey, we’ll use you, but you’re not really *welcome*.”

Dave In Austin Mar 13, 2024 • 6:11:33pm

Just now

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silverdolphin Mar 13, 2024 • 6:12:30pm

re: #32 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

That Spartacus clip posted earlier is powerful because it strikes at the heart of a human’s desire to be free.

If I had to pick between two paths:
1) Genus Homo can continue for another 300,000 years if our population becomes managed, like a herd of cattle, with selective breeding (genetic engineering) and culling, with decisions about who gets to live and when people get to die, though the engineering efforts of a subset of specialists empowered to rule; and
2) we just let ourselves go extinct;

… I think the second choice is the one I would make.

Maybe but I remain sanquine we will do pretty good. Because it is not just our genetics that have made us what we are. We have used our tools to become successful. Particularly tools that increase information flow between communities. That flow is the life’s blood of humanity. It sustains our increasingly complex societies that are built on basic modular structures.

Without that flow, we end up with epistemically closed communities (ie Trumpers) that simply are not getting the vital information they need to be successful. So they try and organize using an older and more primitive social structure - authoritarianism. BUt such a simple approach simply cannot sustain the complex society needed to survive in today’s cultural environment. This results in them making stupid decisions, athough still quite dangerous.

Their organizational structure simply cannot sustain the complex economy we have today. If they are successful, our economy and society would have to collapse back to an economy they can sustain. I suspect feudalism. We might survive but we would bever reach this stage again.

Basically, we organize by leveraging our hardwired community structures (usually maxing out at about 150-200 people) in a more complex modular fashion, using technology to connect those modules in very complex structures - mixing hierarchy with diverse, distributed approaches. The former allows us to make quick decisions even if they are not wise. The latter arrives at wise decisions but lacks the drive to make a decision. That is one reason authoritarian communities win early. They are quicker to action And it is why distributed, democratic approaches eventually win. They find wiser solution.

We have taken that basic structure and created a society of tremendous complexity of organizatonal structure. But it requires tools to permit rapid information flow or parts will starve and die, just as parts of our body die if the blood flow is cut off. We could not have the huge,complex societies of today withput tremendously powerful tools.

I can see new organizational structures arising today that are demonstrating great success by taking advantage of the firehose of information that IT sustains. So I feel very comfortable that we will make it trough the current transition. Success breeds success as the older approaches go the way of the Dodo.

Now, will we make it through the next stage? Don’t know but I will be long dead.

Belafon Mar 13, 2024 • 6:12:44pm

re: #48 Charles

And also, Jeff Beck played REALLY FUCKING LOUD. Almost painful. It’s no wonder he had hearing issues.

Which was the cause and which was the effect?

Charles Mar 13, 2024 • 6:17:58pm

[4K] El Gran Maja - Submarine Expedition

silverdolphin Mar 13, 2024 • 6:24:47pm

I finally nailed down what Britt’s speech reminded me off. They same sort of breathy voice. Was she really thinking she could seduce us that way?

Marilyn Monroe-Happy Birthday Mr. President

Charles Mar 13, 2024 • 6:31:15pm

re: #56 silverdolphin

I finally nailed down what Britt’s speech reminded me off. They same sort of breathy voice. Was she really thinking she could seduce us that way?

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Pretty sure Katie Britt would consider Marilyn Monroe a heathen destined for hell, tbh.

While simultaneously imitating her mannerisms.

Ace Rothstein Mar 13, 2024 • 6:35:43pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

My second Instagram post ever. A picture of the cover of my Dad’s copy of Jeff Beck’s debut album.

Following.

darthstar Mar 13, 2024 • 6:40:51pm

At the risk of sounding like a grumpy old man can I just say that most of the people who make Tik Tok videos look like fucking idiots? I mean, be passionate and political about your favorite media app, but make your fucking bed first or do the dishes or comb your hair.

Okay, you’re young slobs…I was a young slob…I get it. Hell, I was a slob well into my thirties. And your target audience is also young and probably slobs too.

Want me to care about your issue? Follow up with voting in numbers that reflect your percentage of the population.

Joe Bacon ✅ Mar 13, 2024 • 6:43:14pm

On Tuesday, Colorado’s 9News journalist Kyle Clark reported that far-right activist and commentator Joe Oltmann called for President Joe Biden to be killed during the Friday, March 8 segment of his online show.

According to Clark, the DCF Guns co-owner “has long used violent political rhetoric,” before responding to Biden’s expression of “support for a ban on so-called assault weapons” during his Thursday, March 7 State of the Union speech.

“I have gun stores and ranges,” Oltmann said “on his Conservative Daily political program, which streams online and on MyPillowGuy Mike Lindell’s far-right broadcast network, FrankSpeech,” Clark reports. “I’m not taking one gun off the shelf,” the far-right activist added.

He continued, “That is the definition of treason, and he should be hung by the neck until he’s dead That’s the consequence. And you say, ‘Oh my gosh, you’re calling for his death.’ I’m calling for him to be put on trial, held responsible for hurting Americans, for standing against the Constitution we have. And the consequence of that should be, and is up to, death.”

Clark also reports, “Oltmann has suggested building a line of gallows across the country to hang those he identifies as traitors, including U.S. Senators,” and “defends his rhetoric saying that each person killed would first be tried for treason, including Biden.”

Oltmann said, “For the FBI listening to this, I didn’t say that I was gonna do anything to him. I said he should be put on trial and he should face the maximum penalty. That’s what he should have.”

9news.com

Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅ Mar 13, 2024 • 6:47:08pm

re: #60 Joe Bacon ✅

Crucify a person every 100 yds on the road into the city to show we mean business.

Joe Bacon ✅ Mar 13, 2024 • 6:52:54pm

Of course it’s Oklahoma…

Chaos erupts after voters unwittingly elect Charlottesville marcher to Oklahoma council

A man who marched at the notorious 2017 “Unite the Right” Nazi rally in Charlottesville, Virginia got elected last year as a councilor in the city of Enid, Oklahoma, and NBC News reports that it has driven a deep rift within the community.

According to NBC News, Enid City Councilor Judd Blevins’ ties to white nationalists were exposed by two local residents in early 2023, shortly before voters went to the polls.

Blevins was elected weeks later, and NBC News notes that word of his participation in the violent Charlottesville march hadn’t spread throughout most of the community by the time voters went to the ballot box.

Since his election, however, it has become more commonly known and has led to voters in the city mounting a recall campaign against him.

“Blevins’ election galvanized an opposition,” NBC reported. “In March 2023, around 100 people … met at a community center. By the end of the evening, they had formed the Enid Social Justice Committee and decided on its first order of business: recalling Judd Blevins.”

The recall campaign has seemingly been helped by the fact that Blevins made no effort to distance himself from Nazi groups, and he pointedly said he had “nothing to apologize for” when asked about the campaign against him last year.

In fact, his opponents even said that they would withdraw his recall campaign if he would publicly renounce his past statements in support of white nationalism — but he still completely refused.

rawstory.com

ipsos Mar 13, 2024 • 6:55:15pm

re: #62 Joe Bacon ✅

Please don’t give the clickbaiters at Raw Story the undeserved traffic.

Here’s the actual excellent story direct from NBC.

nbcnews.com

wrenchwench Mar 13, 2024 • 6:55:38pm

re: #60 Joe Bacon ✅

[…]

He continued, “That is the definition of treason, and he should be hung by the neck until he’s dead That’s the consequence. And you say, ‘Oh my gosh, you’re calling for his death.’ I’m calling for him to be put on trial, held responsible for hurting Americans, for standing against the Constitution we have. And the consequence of that should be, and is up to, death.”

Clark also reports, “Oltmann has suggested building a line of gallows across the country to hang those he identifies as traitors, including U.S. Senators,” and “defends his rhetoric saying that each person killed would first be tried for treason, including Biden.”

Oltmann said, “For the FBI listening to this, I didn’t say that I was gonna do anything to him. I said he should be put on trial and he should face the maximum penalty. That’s what he should have.”

9news.com

Keeping the AR-15 legal is money in Oltmann’s pocket. Biden threatened his money.

It’s a youth issue. 18 year olds have had many years of active shooter drills. If you know any, ask them if they are registered. Be prepared to tell them how if they aren’t.

Decatur Deb is my hero.

William Lewis Mar 13, 2024 • 6:59:30pm

re: #5 No Malarkey!

Aaron Rodgers, NY Jets QB and potential VP running mate of RFK JR , believes the Sandy Hook massacre was staged. cnn.com

Nucking Futz. I am so glad the Packers got rid of him. I am sure they knew how off the deep end he really is.

William Lewis Mar 13, 2024 • 7:01:05pm

When I was growing up, there was a local brewery called “Walter’s” in my home town. It made an OK, if very unoffensive and under hopped pilsen style lager. They went under around 1985, being damned by being simultaneously too big and too small, to be economically feasible for the beer market that existed then. The brewery was bought out by an early micro brewing company that was even more incompetent. As an aside, I had previously tried to form a micro brewing company to do the same but the banks laughed at me. They were right. It was too early. A decade would pass before the market was ready. A few years ago the main brew building was torn down but a couple of the out buildings remain and I was trying to get a photo them for my “Picture of the Day”. Going down an alley behind one, I saw this scrap heap behind it and lo, there was the top of the old copper brew kettle… I remember seeing it in-production when taking tours decades ago. Rather a sad sight to see it like this…

ETA: 1985: the company that bought them out shipped a bad batch of beer and never recovered.

teleskiguy Mar 13, 2024 • 7:08:20pm

re: #58 Ace Rothstein

Following.

I see you! Talented photog!

ckkatz Mar 13, 2024 • 7:17:07pm

re: #44 GlutenFreeJesus

Food Saver would be just fine. Personally I have a VacMaster chamber sealer. Overkill for your needs.

If you don’t do sous vide, you can just thaw overnight in the fridge. No need to season before sealing/freezing either. Do that when you’re about to cook. 😎

I get my bags from this place. Might want to call/email them to double check the best bags for whatever machine you need up getting. :)

vacuumsealersunlimited.com

That’s the primary question I was looking at. Whether to go with a $100 external sealer,r a $400 chamber sealer or conclude that sealers don’t work. The secondary is whether some brands or models work better than others.

For price I obviously much prefer to go the external sealer route if possible.

Thanks!

ckkatz Mar 13, 2024 • 7:18:21pm

re: #43 BlueSpotinAL ✅

For my 65th Birthday party, we had a lot of cake left over. A few days later, my wife asked where the cake was, I said the beer fridge. She comes back with no cake, saying that she couldn’t find it. Eventually I realized where she looked, and I said “It is in the other beer refrigerator in the garage. “

I like your priorities!

coin operated Mar 13, 2024 • 7:33:08pm

re: #68 ckkatz

That’s the primary question I was looking at. Whether to go with a $100 external sealer,r a $400 chamber sealer or conclude that sealers don’t work. The secondary is whether some brands or models work better than others.

For price I obviously much prefer to go the external sealer route if possible.

Thanks!

I have the $100 costco FoodSaver model, and it gets used every week. Simple, efficient design and it’s worked with every brand of bag I’ve ordered from amazon.

silverdolphin Mar 13, 2024 • 7:35:49pm

Democrats have treated Joe Biden just as bad as Robert Hur and Marjorie Taylor Greene have

Better late than never. He does seem to give a real apology. And I do like this:

“Though it was just one speech and one moment in time, Biden hit a home run last week. He soared. But Biden’s been soaring all along. We’ve been trying to shoot him out of the air as if he were some dried-up old clay pigeon in a skeet shooting match. Biden is 100 percent iron. And try as we might, we ain’t going to shoot him down.”

Patricia Kayden Mar 13, 2024 • 7:43:58pm

Belafon Mar 13, 2024 • 7:44:29pm

re: #43 BlueSpotinAL ✅

For my 65th Birthday party, we had a lot of cake left over. A few days later, my wife asked where the cake was, I said the beer fridge. She comes back with no cake, saying that she couldn’t find it. Eventually I realized where she looked, and I said “It is in the other beer refrigerator in the garage. “

I had friends who turned two fridges into into keg coolers, and add taps to the doors.

Patricia Kayden Mar 13, 2024 • 7:44:53pm

Mastodon

BlueSpotinAL ✅ Mar 13, 2024 • 7:47:06pm

re: #73 Belafon

I had friends who turned teo fridges into into keg coolers, and add taps to the doors.

That is the plan for the temperature controlled freezer. I already have the parts.

piratedan Mar 13, 2024 • 7:54:16pm

re: #15 Belafon

The Venture Brothers is an incredible series of hot takes and trope twisting for anyone that grew up in the 60’s and 70’s who had their lives impacted by the cool jazz opening theme song.

The voice acting and writing is exceptional.

GlutenFreeJesus Mar 13, 2024 • 7:55:21pm

re: #68 ckkatz

A FoodSaver is more than adequate. :)

Woukd be a good idea to get assorted sizes of bags as well as a roll for any large items like a whole salmon filet, etc. then again, those are best cut/portioned when fresh, then sealed/froze. It’s a worthwhile investment if you have the freezer space.

Patricia Kayden Mar 13, 2024 • 7:56:51pm

Ughhh

Nerdy Fish Mar 13, 2024 • 8:00:28pm

If these two are whining about it, you can bet it’s an excellent idea. They’re the ones who have effectively profited from the ridiculous Texas judge-shopping, enabling them to push their agenda straight to SCOTUS and effectively turning the judicial system into a circus.

sizzzzlerz Mar 13, 2024 • 8:03:35pm

re: #78 Patricia Kayden

Ughhh

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It’s total amazing how far she has come, considering she’s completely with a spine or any other interior infrastructure.

silverdolphin Mar 13, 2024 • 8:06:32pm

Having Neighbors Who Vote for Donald Trump Is Dangerous to Your Health

The greater the percentage of people in a county that voted for Trump, the more that have died of Covid.

Dying from COVID correlates with Trump popularity

So, the number of deaths in a county that voted heavily for Trump (70% Red line) was about the same as a county where less than 30% supported Trump (blue line). Until vaccines became available. But the lines have diverged substantially since vaccinations,

There are now twice as many total deaths in the most Trump-supporting counties than those that do not.

This works out to, on average, an “additional 67 excess Trump voters in a county to kill one additional person from the Covid Plague.” Trump is killing thousands every month.

So, Trumpers are already killing Americans, especially if you live in a county that really supports Trump. We’d really like to believe that these are all Trump voters but there are probably some Biden supprters in the excess deaths. Make sure you are fully vaccinated.

And Trump actually supports the vaccine. How many people would an RFK Jr kill?

jaunte Mar 13, 2024 • 8:22:31pm

re: #78 Patricia Kayden

She reminds me of Annie Wilkes.

ckkatz Mar 13, 2024 • 8:25:31pm

Thanks!

Sounds like the Costco Foodsaver is pretty much the universal recommendation. Really appreciate it.

Ace Rothstein Mar 13, 2024 • 8:31:27pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

I see you! Talented photog!

Thank you very much.

ckkatz Mar 13, 2024 • 8:40:27pm

Kind of depressing first segment on Alex Wagner this evening. She went through a bunch of the scummiest, slimiest, dishonest GOP operations in recent presidential election history. And the operatives and billionaires associated with them.

From her reporting, it sounds like reunion time with tgf’s 2024 campaign. And that they are better organized, better structured and overall better prepared than in 2016 and 2020.

One name that stuck out was Chris LaCivita. Totally unprincipled and unethical beyond what’s in it for him and his billionaire bosses. Associated with George Allen, Ken Cuccinalli, Jerry Kilgore, Ron Johnson, the Swiftboating of John Kerry and the William Ayers smear against Barak Obama.

It’s going to be a very ugly mess. I expect none of us are going to be surprised to find out, after the fact, that vast majority of the slickly produced shit that they will be throwing, is going to be completely untrue.

Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire Mar 14, 2024 • 5:37:59am

re: #23 ckkatz

From downstairs:

Might I ask which vacuum pack machine you use? And if you would recommend it?

I have been looking at getting one.

As a single person, it seems it would be convenient to be able to purchase in bulk, as well as to cook up larger than a few single portions and then repack and freeze.

Sorry for the delay. I have a Food Saver FM2000-015. I buy my bags in bulk from foodvacbags.com And yes, I would recommend it.

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