The Bob Cesca Interview: Rachel Bitecofer Day

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Rachel Bitecofer Day — Dr. Bitecofer returns to the podcast to talk about the polls, election strategy, messaging, the economy, the future of democracy, the Dobbs decision, and so much more. You need to buy her book called Hit ‘Em Where It Hurts (promotional link) about fighting back against the Republicans without pulling our punches. Don’t miss this talk! Meantime, you can support this podcast by subscribing at patreon.com/bobcescashow. Music by Dreamkid.

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teleskiguy  May 29, 2024 • 5:46:00pm

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Charles Johnson  May 29, 2024 • 5:48:31pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

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Charles Johnson  May 29, 2024 • 5:50:45pm

sometimes i think i should go see what the would-be dictator is posting at his shitty website, so I do that, and then HOLY SHIT GET ME OUTTA HERE SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG

Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-05-30T00:35:32.000Z

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Amory Blaine  May 29, 2024 • 6:05:46pm

Conservatives want tax breaks for the rich above all, but they love wasting tax money as well. Consider the costs of culture war:
Scrutiny of libraries is a costly waste.
Creating a police state to protect embryos is a waste.
The administrative arm that check childrens genitals is a waste.
Schools keeping ledgers on children’s food is a waste.
Administrative hoops for welfare.
Not to mention all the stress on people and institutions.

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Charles Johnson  May 29, 2024 • 6:06:02pm

all i wanted was a pepsi

just one pepsi

Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-05-30T00:57:31.000Z

just a pepsi

Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-05-30T01:02:16.000Z

I went to your schools
I went to your churches
I went to your institutional learning facilities

Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-05-30T01:03:58.000Z

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Amory Blaine  May 29, 2024 • 6:07:27pm

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 29, 2024 • 6:08:38pm
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Charles Johnson  May 29, 2024 • 6:11:06pm

Trying to imagine the reaction if Trump gets off for this shit.

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darthstar  May 29, 2024 • 6:11:31pm

Our EV is already ahead of its ICE counterpart.

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Amory Blaine  May 29, 2024 • 6:12:20pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Trying to imagine the reaction if Trump gets off for this shit.

I’ve served on juries. No fucking way I want them deciding my fate.

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Nerdy Fish  May 29, 2024 • 6:12:52pm

Sorry, I’m on a damn soapbox here. From downstairs:

re: #257 Nerdy Fish

To those people, why should it matter if teenagers get paid a livable wage? Some teenagers are trying to escape shitty home situations and need the money in order to become independent. Overall, there is this absolute paranoia in this country around not giving people things they don’t deserve, and I just don’t fucking understand it. Why is it such a terrible, horrible, awful thing if someone who doesn’t strictly need something benefits from a policy that gives it to someone who does? Is the $0.02 you paid on your taxes to make that happen really that important to you?

For fuck’s sake, people. This absolute insistence on, “No man gets a penny more than he needs to pull himself up by his own bootstraps (and even then, half the time, we’re going to fuck him over if he’s the wrong color or gender or sexual identity)” is beyond absurd. There’s small government, then there’s absolute pedantic bloody-mindedness that is up there in the realm of fucking HOA board members, which is what this is. Being kind to people is supposed to be the hallmark of Christianity, what difference does it make if you pay a little money to the government to make it happen as opposed to paying way too much money to a church?

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Amory Blaine  May 29, 2024 • 6:13:26pm

My peers are fucked!

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Amory Blaine  May 29, 2024 • 6:16:38pm

My wife was a social worker about 20 years ago when they changed the welfare system. It was something like 30k per year per family. Over 20k went to administration costs.

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darthstar  May 29, 2024 • 6:17:04pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 29, 2024 • 6:18:38pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Trying to imagine the reaction if Trump gets off for this shit.

As my sister firmly believes, that will get him elected because he will successfully parlay the result into a message among non-MAGA voters that the trial was political and that he was an innocent babe under an unlawful attack by the Deep State. His cult holds to that belief and it’s not that hard to persuade others that these charges were politically motivated if the jury fails to convict.

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Amory Blaine  May 29, 2024 • 6:19:22pm

re: #15 Hecuba’s daughter

And our press will guide them there.

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darthstar  May 29, 2024 • 6:19:43pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Trying to imagine the reaction if Trump gets off for this shit.

I’m looking forward to the lack of outrage if he gets convicted. Seeing nobody attack the White House with tiki torches and Cybertrucks will be what does Trump in…what happened to his flock? Why aren’t they risking life and liberty on his behalf? Did Soros pay them off? There hasn’t been a good life taking boat parade in over four years!

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Amory Blaine  May 29, 2024 • 6:21:44pm

re: #17 darthstar

I’m not ruling out attacks by militias.

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darthstar  May 29, 2024 • 6:22:16pm

re: #15 Hecuba’s daughter

I’m hoping they convict on somewhere around 24-27 of the 34 charges…there are seven related to checks Don Jr and Eric signed. Let him be found not responsible for those…but the rest…guilty, guilty, guilty. It will say two things:
1. The jury deliberated sincerely and wasn’t going to go all or nothing.
2. He’s fooked.

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teleskiguy  May 29, 2024 • 6:25:46pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

I get to see Suicidal Tendencies in July in Denver, they’re opening for NOFX, supposedly their last shows.

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Belafon  May 29, 2024 • 6:26:27pm

re: #14 darthstar

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But we skipped all those polls we got wrong after Dobbs.

Also, hundreds of data points doesn’t train a machine learning algorithm. Even the mnist algorithm had 60,000 data points for training and 10,000 for testing.

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darthstar  May 29, 2024 • 6:27:44pm

re: #18 Amory Blaine

I’m not ruling out attacks by militias.

What militias? My guess is word has been passed to small town sheriff’s departments that Trump isn’t the president and he isn’t going to be pardoning anyone who supports insurrection so if they have friends and/or family who belong to such groups, suggesting they hold a protest BBQ with children and balloons, but no guns, is in order.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 29, 2024 • 6:28:18pm

re: #20 teleskiguy

So damn jealous. The last time I saw them was 92/93 for their Art of Rebellion tour. They opened for Megadeth and they were way better that night.

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Nerdy Fish  May 29, 2024 • 6:28:58pm

re: #21 Belafon

But we skipped all those polls we got wrong after Dobbs.

Also, hundreds of data points doesn’t train a machine learning algorithm. Even the mnist algorithm had 60,000 data points for training and 10,000 for testing.

Decision Desk is really good at what they do, but there’s a large part of me that says everyone is getting this one very, very wrong. I mean, yes, I have to believe that, for my sanity, because I refuse to believe that so many of my fellow human beings are going to consign freedom and democracy to the garbage bin just because a fat orange sack of shit sold them a bunch of lies. But I really, genuinely believe that there are way too many intangibles in play in this election for the polls to properly quantify.

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darthstar  May 29, 2024 • 6:29:57pm

re: #21 Belafon

But we skipped all those polls we got wrong after Dobbs.

Also, hundreds of data points doesn’t train a machine learning algorithm. Even the mnist algorithm had 60,000 data points for training and 10,000 for testing.

Exactly. If they fed the actual primary election results into their formula, it might just surprise them how that moves the needle.

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Charles Johnson  May 29, 2024 • 6:36:21pm

I’m not paying any attention to polls, but that’s just me. You do you.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 29, 2024 • 6:37:18pm

re: #19 darthstar

I’m hoping they convict on somewhere around 24-27 of the 34 charges…there are seven related to checks Don Jr and Eric signed. Let him be found not responsible for those…but the rest…guilty, guilty, guilty. It will say two things:
1. The jury deliberated sincerely and wasn’t going to go all or nothing.
2. He’s fooked.

It’ll be interesting to see what that means. It might just mean house arrest with continued Internet access. If it’s just fines and probation, I’ll flip out.

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Belafon  May 29, 2024 • 6:39:22pm

re: #27 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

It’ll be interesting to see what that means. It might just mean house arrest with continued Internet access. If it’s just fines and probation, I’ll flip out.

According to a New York lawyer who comments over at Balloon Juice, these are the lowest level felonies, and people rarely go to prison over them. You will have to most likely settle for the conviction and fines.

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Amory Blaine  May 29, 2024 • 6:41:43pm

Conviction will be good. Americans running a felon for president is.. something else man.

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Randall Gross  May 29, 2024 • 6:42:25pm

Psychedelic Furs are rumored to be on tour later this summer.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 29, 2024 • 6:46:42pm

re: #28 Belafon

According to a New York lawyer who comments over at Balloon Juice, these are the lowest level felonies, and people rarely go to prison over them. You will have to most likely settle for the conviction and fines.

Campaign finance and election violations should carry the most serious punishments for them since they are direct subversion of the democratic processes the governance of the country is built on and a great part of what supposedly makes this country so great.

And don’t the conservatives hold jail time as the most meaningful form of deterrence from breaking the law?
/

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Belafon  May 29, 2024 • 6:49:33pm

re: #14 darthstar

It would be interesting to take their algorithm and ask it, after training on pre-2022 data, how many of the anti-abortion measures it thinks would pass.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 29, 2024 • 6:52:07pm

re: #14 darthstar

The Hill is just another cog in the GOP 24/7 Bullshit Machine.

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Belafon  May 29, 2024 • 6:57:57pm

Yes, I do worry that far too many people are going to vote for Trump. And, looking back at 2020, Biden led in average polling throughout the year according to 538. But Romney actually pulled ahead of Obama in 2012, so we’ll have to see with the incumbent. So I will work to get Democrats out in November, and convince others to vote.

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BigPapa  May 29, 2024 • 7:00:05pm

Every morning my wife puts her flags on one pole at a time.

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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization  May 29, 2024 • 7:04:11pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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THEY JUST KEEP BUGGING ME!
THEY JUST KEEP BUGGING ME!
AND IT BUILDS UP INSIDE!

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Rightwingconspirator  May 29, 2024 • 7:09:47pm

Good evening from Los Angeles. Imo, one of the most underused features here is the LGF poll. Would you consider participating in this brand new LGF poll?

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Charles Johnson  May 29, 2024 • 7:12:10pm
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piratedan  May 29, 2024 • 7:14:23pm

re: #24 Nerdy Fish

yeah, they can use all the polling data points that they want, but when people show up and cast ballots, the GOP agenda goes down in serious flames. Abortion is going to be on the ballot, nominating a felon, will not be seen as a power move. People having jobs and a sense of relief post pandemic will be seen favorably and having a GOP Congress that can’t get their shit together when they have a majority is obvious to all. These guys are doing some serious self-gaslighting if they believe their own bullshit oversampled GOP constituency polls that are they only thing they can do because a good many of them are too fucking broke for anything else.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 29, 2024 • 7:14:44pm

Face-Borg is down. Found the answer to a screamers reader’s question tried to post it. No response. Tried again several times. Still nothing. After 8 minutes, 6 identical messages appeared at once, one for each attempt. Tried to delete all but one. No response. Fuck it.
( If you’re wondering about the struck word, it is my new policy to leave all autocorndog errors in place and just strike them to illustrate the program’s status as the greatest known example of artificial stupidity.)

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BigPapa  May 29, 2024 • 7:19:32pm

Would that not make it Face-Bork?

Just sayin.

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Patricia Kayden  May 29, 2024 • 7:20:12pm

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Rightwingconspirator  May 29, 2024 • 7:20:28pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

Um… well this one is sure not scientific lol.
littlegreenfootballs.com

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 29, 2024 • 7:27:18pm

What the hell is this now?????

Texas Professors Want to Punish Students Who Get Abortions

Some wild news out of Texas (I know, not surprising): The New Republic reports that professors at the University of Texas at Austin are suing for the ability to punish students who take time off for abortion. The complaint, brought by America First Legal, needs to be read to be believed. Philosophy professor Daniel Bonevac and business and finance professor John Hatfield sound downright petulant in their declarations, refusing to offer an “excused absence” for students who obtain abortions—whether they’re traveling out-of-state or taking medication there in Texas. But wait, there’s more:

“I will certainly accommodate students who are seeking medically necessary abortions in response to a pregnancy that threatens the student’s life or health. But I will not accommodate a purely elective abortion that serves only to kill an unborn child that was conceived through an act of voluntary and consensual sexual intercourse.”

I would absolutely love to know how these men expect students to ‘prove’ that their abortions were medically necessary or urgent. Will Bonevac and Hatfield pour over young women’s medical records to decide if they really needed that abortion?

Naturally, these men’s disdain doesn’t stop at women’s reproductive rights. They also say they won’t use students’ correct pronouns, writing, “I will not violate the rules of grammar or compromise my educational mission to accommodate a student’s delusional beliefs.” Assholes.

jessica.substack.com

Another reason why I won’t step foot in Texas.

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goddamnedfrank  May 29, 2024 • 7:30:39pm

Apparently it’s not grooming when cops do it:

The law enforcement training exercise that unintentionally exposed San Bruno elementary school children to powerful riot-control agents last week may have included chemical weapons that expired decades ago.

A person familiar with the incident said that before the training at the San Francisco County Jail on Moreland Drive in San Bruno, officers from UC Berkeley and UCSF were invited to bring any chemical agents in the campus police forces’ inventory so they could be disposed of during the exercise.

Police with at least one of these departments brought crates of chemical canisters that dated back as far as the 1960s, said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter. The Chronicle granted anonymity under its confidential sources policy.

On Wednesday, after the initial publication of this story, officials with the San Francisco Sheriff’s Office said UC Berkeley officers had brought over the canisters used in the May 21 exercise, and that they were believed to have been pulled from storage.

Tara Moriarty, a spokesperson for the sheriff’s office, said a preliminary investigation showed that there “were no expiration tabs on the canisters brought over by UC Berkeley.” Moriarty said she could not estimate the age of the canisters and directed questions to UC Berkeley.

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BigPapa  May 29, 2024 • 7:42:14pm

BREAKING:

A Vietnamese-Italian fusion restaurant called Pho-gettaboudit

No mine. I wish. I would scarf.

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Belafon  May 29, 2024 • 7:42:21pm

re: #31 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Campaign finance and election violations should carry the most serious punishments for them since they are direct subversion of the democratic processes the governance of the country is built on and a great part of what supposedly makes this country so great.

And don’t the conservatives hold jail time as the most meaningful form of deterrence from breaking the law?
/

Who gets to write those laws?

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steve_davis  May 29, 2024 • 7:43:17pm

re: #28 Belafon

According to a New York lawyer who comments over at Balloon Juice, these are the lowest level felonies, and people rarely go to prison over them. You will have to most likely settle for the conviction and fines.

This trial just creates the killing floor for future trials. He’ll be a convicted felon. I’m assuming that means he takes a massive sentencing enhancer if he’s then found guilty somewhere else.

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Belafon  May 29, 2024 • 7:43:52pm

re: #14 darthstar

I do also consider this to be one more attempt, intentional by them or not, to depress Democratic turnout because Democrats are obviously going to lose.

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mmmirele  May 29, 2024 • 7:47:38pm

Speaking of jury deliberations, after several hours of closing arguments, the Chad Daybell case went to the jury. Just as a refresher, Daybell is accused of three counts of first-degree murder (his first wife and two children of his second wife, Lori Vallow), insurance fraud (saying that his first wife died of natural causes), and conspiracy to commit murder and grand theft. The jury deliberated for around three hours, and then retired for the night. I believe they’re being sequestered.

This case is unusual because it involves some fairly esoteric (ok, off-the-wall) religious beliefs only somewhat tangentially related to the dominant religion of eastern Idaho (Mormons). Chad Daybell’s ideas of “death percentages,” possession and “zombies” are like two tacos short of a combination plate. I can’t even *begin* to give you a rundown of the crazy the prosecution is alleging. Heck, the prosecution’s closing arguments took two hours to run through.

I have no idea how this will go, because I don’t second-guess what juries may be thinking. However, it’s worth noting that Chad’s second wife, Lori Vallow Daybell, whom he married after he allegedly killed his first wife, Tammy, was convicted on similar charges last year. Vallow Daybell is currently a guest of the Maricopa (AZ) county jail, pending trial for the death of *her* husband, Charles Vallow.

So yeah, I’ll be waiting for Trump, but I’ll also be waiting for Daybell.

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Romantic Heretic  May 29, 2024 • 7:49:35pm

re: #44 Joe Bacon ✅

Another fine example of how an education can’t fix evil.

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calochortus  May 29, 2024 • 7:50:02pm

I am 71 as of today. How did this happen?

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Romantic Heretic  May 29, 2024 • 7:52:04pm

re: #52 calochortus

Happy Birthday.

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jaunte  May 29, 2024 • 7:52:51pm

@cait.bsky.social
i am personally shocked they managed to make it look stupider

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Decatur Deb  May 29, 2024 • 7:54:41pm

re: #54 jaunte

@cait.bsky.social
i am personally shocked they managed to make it look stupider

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Bet it voids the warranty.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 29, 2024 • 7:55:26pm

re: #52 calochortus

HAPPY BIRTHDAY! MAY YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL CELEBRATION!!!!! 🥳

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calochortus  May 29, 2024 • 7:56:07pm

re: #54 jaunte

@cait.bsky.social
i am personally shocked they managed to make it look stupider

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Really brings out the ripples in the metal. Also makes it look like one of those polished tanker trucks that are so annoying to drive behind.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 29, 2024 • 7:57:07pm

re: #54 jaunte

I wouldn’t want that in front of me if I’m driving. The glare will blind me!

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calochortus  May 29, 2024 • 7:57:07pm

re: #53 Romantic Heretic

re: #56 Joe Bacon ✅

Thank you. It has really been a nice day.

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calochortus  May 29, 2024 • 8:00:39pm

re: #58 Joe Bacon ✅

I wouldn’t want that in front of me if I’m driving. The glare will blind me!

Probably part of the attraction.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 29, 2024 • 8:00:42pm

re: #37 Rightwingconspirator

Good evening from Los Angeles. Imo, one of the most underused features here is the LGF poll. Would you consider participating in this brand new LGF poll?

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It doesn’t work for me. It goes into endless spinning dots and “casting vote.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 29, 2024 • 8:01:31pm

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Okay, when I reloaded the page it worked.

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Jay C  May 29, 2024 • 8:01:39pm

re: #54 jaunte

And also, too: “invisible”??

Don’t we wish…..

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 29, 2024 • 8:02:21pm

re: #52 calochortus

I am 71 as of today. How did this happen?

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mmmirele  May 29, 2024 • 8:04:37pm

re: #44 Joe Bacon ✅

Another reason why I won’t step foot in Texas.

I’ll join you on that. Now if I only knew where I put my UT Austin sheepskin (it’s only been 40 years, maybe I lost it in all the moves…).

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DodgerFan1988  May 29, 2024 • 8:06:02pm
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Mike Lamb  May 29, 2024 • 8:08:56pm

re: #14 darthstar

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Those numbers are horseshit.

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EPR-radar  May 29, 2024 • 8:12:45pm

re: #54 jaunte

That thing seems to be missing its Trump/MAGA bumper stickers.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 29, 2024 • 8:16:46pm

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Hecuba's daughter  May 29, 2024 • 8:20:31pm

This isn’t the actual phrase — but the common wisdom is that no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public. Let’s hope that Trump is convicted on a majority of the charges and that somehow SCOTUS will not be issuing as terrible a ruling about immunity as we expect they will. Wait — this might violate our host’s standards — but

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 29, 2024 • 8:26:49pm

re: #67 Mike Lamb

Those numbers are horseshit.

You can’t look at the poll directly at Decision Desk, so you can’t see who they polled or how they arrived at their numbers.

The Hill and Decision Desk HQ Announce New 2024 Election Partnership (Decision Desk HQ, November 1, 2023)

The only way you get the information is through Tiger Beat on the Potamic.

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Rightwingconspirator  May 29, 2024 • 8:32:33pm

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yeah, same here.

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Targetpractice  May 29, 2024 • 8:40:20pm

re: #14 darthstar

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Yeah yeah, I remember the same assholes declaring with 90%+ certainty that Hillary would walk to the presidency and how that slowly fell apart on Election Night until the next day where the question again and again was “How could they get it so wrong?!”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 29, 2024 • 9:13:47pm

For those who have not heard, Iceland started leaking, again, today.

Spectacular lava fountains in a fissure more than two miles long. Located pretty much where the last eruption occurred.

At the south end of the fissure there started out with just a bit of effusive flow, and a little bit of smoke:

Reykjanes volcano 29 May 2024

And then… a whole lot of ash thrown up into the air:

Reykjanes volcano 29 May 2024

And then fissures started opening right at the base of Hagefell, the hill on which the camera sits:

Reykjanes volcano 29 May 2024

And then nearly black ash and lava bombs, up close to the camera!

Reykjanes volcano 29 May 2024

And then, just as quickly as these explosions occurred, the eruption turned out bright white smoke….

Reykjanes volcano 29 May 2024

… and thus I knew Iceland finally had a new Pope.

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teleskiguy  May 29, 2024 • 9:17:54pm

re: #23 GlutenFreeJesus

I bought two tickets. I gave my extra to a dude I met in Steamboat Springs back in 2005. He runs a homeless shelter in Gainesville, FL. His website.

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goddamnedfrank  May 29, 2024 • 9:41:45pm

World Central Kitchen: "Ongoing attacks have forced us to pause work at our main kitchen in Rafah and relocate many of our community kitchens further north."

Matt Novak (@paleofuture.bsky.social) 2024-05-30T04:19:34.570Z

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BigPapa  May 29, 2024 • 10:01:54pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

That girl can sing. Wow. Flawless.

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silverdolphin  May 29, 2024 • 10:35:11pm

A Fun AI Fail

Nice examination of trying to get a simple figure created and how poorly AI does. Frustrating. Gets close but does not understand why so it then moves furher away.

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Targetpractice  May 29, 2024 • 10:41:30pm

re: #78 silverdolphin

A Fun AI Fail

Nice examination of trying to get a simple figure created and how poorly AI does. Frustrating. Gets close but does not understand why so it then moves furher away.

Perfect summation of “AI” in the comments:

Wrestling with brilliant jello.

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No Malarkey!  May 29, 2024 • 10:51:24pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

I’m not paying any attention to polls, but that’s just me. You do you.

The polls are still mostly of registered voters or all americans, which means they are polling lots of people who won’t vote. In the 538 aggregate, Trump only has 41% of the vote and his lead is barely over a point; there are a lot of undecided voters who don’t believe they are really going to have to choose between Trump and Biden again, and I don’t think they will pull the lever for Trump, because they intensely dislike him.

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Dr Lizardo  May 29, 2024 • 10:58:44pm

re: #80 No Malarkey!

…there are a lot of undecided voters who don’t believe they are really going to have to choose between Trump and Biden again, and I don’t think they will pull the lever for Trump, because they intensely dislike him.

Not only that, but a guilty verdict in the NY trial, with Trump thus officially being a convicted felon (even if he’s not incarcerated as a result) might sway those undecided voters away from Trump. IIRC, there’s polling out there that showed a felony conviction for Trump would be a deal-breaker for a good many voters.

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silverdolphin  May 29, 2024 • 11:07:25pm

XAI Raises $6 Billion to Compete With OpenAI

Elon owns over half.

SO, it is worth over $20 billion today without ANY product or revenue. And it says it will be worth over $200 billion next year. Lots of sizzle. Little steak. Typical Musk.

Over-promise and under-deliver is his mantra.

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silverdolphin  May 29, 2024 • 11:21:06pm

“What If?” shows off the Vision Pro’s strengths

I’ll be checking this out ASAP on my Apple Vision Pro. Immersive video has really exciting possibilities.

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retired cynic  May 29, 2024 • 11:50:04pm

Charlie Pierce wrote a column (esquire.com) about the WaPo article on the sexual, physical and mental abuse of Native American children in the boarding schools run by the Catholic Church. His article ends with this:

Historical crimes never disappear. They burn in secrecy, like the underground blazes in wildfires, tearing through the roots of things until they find an outlet and explode to the surface, burning away the artifice that camouflages the inhumanity.

I can’t gift you that column, but here is the WaPo link as a gift.

In the name of God
For decades, Catholic priests, brothers and sisters raped or molested Native American children who were taken from their homes by the U.S. government and forced to live at remote boarding schools, a Post investigation found.
wapo.st

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JC1  May 30, 2024 • 12:46:38am

re: #78 silverdolphin

A Fun AI Fail

Nice examination of trying to get a simple figure created and how poorly AI does. Frustrating. Gets close but does not understand why so it then moves furher away.

Diffusion models still have a hard time with text.

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JC1  May 30, 2024 • 12:48:48am

re: #82 silverdolphin

XAI Raises $6 Billion to Compete With OpenAI

Elon owns over half.

SO, it is worth over $20 billion today without ANY product or revenue. And it says it will be worth over $200 billion next year. Lots of sizzle. Little steak. Typical Musk.

Over-promise and under-deliver is his mantra.

Not sure who’s stupid enough to give him money for an AI venture.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 30, 2024 • 12:51:55am

re: #86 JC1

Not sure who’s stupid enough to give him money for an AI venture.

Many people, apparently.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 30, 2024 • 12:54:22am

re: #86 JC1

It’s one of our human traits - we believe in magic.

And that gets transferred to people.

So if person X (heh) does something that we think is good, then we think the next thing that person does will have some sort of juju transferred to it.

Even if that person has not demonstrated any relevant expertise or ability.

And indeed, that is why so many investors get into trouble.

It takes steely eyed accountants and actuaries to stick to the data and not be swayed by personalities.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 30, 2024 • 12:56:36am
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Dr Lizardo  May 30, 2024 • 1:04:44am

This is hilarious - it’s like a scene straight out of some comedy.

Man with suspended license ordered to turn himself in after joining Zoom court hearing while driving

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silverdolphin  May 30, 2024 • 1:11:48am

re: #87 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Many people, apparently.

Standard groups often involved in money laundering or other shady schemes - hedge funds, Saudi princes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 30, 2024 • 1:22:43am

re: #4 Amory Blaine

Conservatives want tax breaks for the rich above all, but they love wasting tax money as well. Consider the costs of culture war:

wasting money on keeping people in line is not seen as a waste

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 30, 2024 • 1:24:12am

An article that is full of sad commentaries on the state of higher ed students in the UK:

‘I see little point’: UK university students on why attendance has plummeted

I guess it should have been expected.

When someone goes and enrolls because they think it is just something they have to do, versus following one’s own curiosity and/or desire to master some subject, there just isn’t the staying power.

I don’t know if students here in the US are in quite as bad a way as in the UK.

Still, I do wonder how the youngsters today are going to fare, coming out of college with a degree that has little commercial value and with little spark or drive to excel in some field.

Also: suspect this is just the tip of the iceberg for institutions in the UK. The gnawing effects of Thatcherism and Brexit have turned the UK into a country where abstract ideals of some great market has overtaken the reality on the ground. The physical ground.

The UK is an island that depends upon food grown elsewhere, material items made elsewhere.

If Labor wins (as everyone expects) and they do not right the ship quickly, the blowback is going to be messy, I fear.

The bigots/xenophobes have rebranded themselves as “Reform UK” and while the polls don’t show them pulling more than about 7%, I can believe that number will grow much higher if the Tories really crash and burn and Labor fails to address the big issues.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 30, 2024 • 1:25:14am

re: #20 teleskiguy

I get to see Suicidal Tendencies in July in Denver, they’re opening for NOFX, supposedly their last shows.

Our band once opened for Peter and the Test Tube Babies. When Suicidal Tendencies first came to the UK, they were Peter’s opening act!

(you may kiss the ring)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 30, 2024 • 1:26:21am

re: #31 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And don’t the conservatives hold jail time as the most meaningful form of deterrence from breaking the law?
/

nearly as meaningful as the death penalty…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 30, 2024 • 1:28:57am

re: #46 BigPapa

BREAKING:

A Vietnamese-Italian fusion restaurant called Pho-gettaboudit

No mine. I wish. I would scarf.

A Croatian-Chinese fusion restaurant: Cevapcici and Chong

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silverdolphin  May 30, 2024 • 1:29:39am

re: #88 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s one of our human traits - we believe in magic.

And that gets transferred to people.

So if person X (heh) does something that we think is good, then we think the next thing that person does will have some sort of juju transferred to it.

Even if that person has not demonstrated any relevant expertise or ability.

And indeed, that is why so many investors get into trouble.

It takes steely eyed accountants and actuaries to stick to the data and not be swayed by personalities.

It might be better to teach probability and statistics in high school rather than Trig. Most people have no useful tools for evaluating things with shades of gray probabilities rather than hard numbers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 30, 2024 • 1:30:29am

re: #54 jaunte

“almost like its invisible”

the less visible, the better it looks…

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2024 • 1:30:29am

re: #94 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Our band once opened for Peter and the Test Tube Babies. When Suicidal Tendencies first came to the UK, they were Peter’s opening act!

(you may kiss the ring)

We’re not worthy!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 30, 2024 • 1:31:15am

re: #58 Joe Bacon ✅

I wouldn’t want that in front of me if I’m driving. The glare will blind me!

There was a case of a fellow driving his solid-gold sportscar, and had to remove it from traffic as the glare was disruptive to other drivers.

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2024 • 1:34:23am

re: #80 No Malarkey!

The polls are still mostly of registered voters or all americans, which means they are polling lots of people who won’t vote. In the 538 aggregate, Trump only has 41% of the vote and his lead is barely over a point; there are a lot of undecided voters who don’t believe they are really going to have to choose between Trump and Biden again, and I don’t think they will pull the lever for Trump, because they intensely dislike him.

Most of the polls are “registered voters” or “all Americans” because it seems any time they try to go for “likely voters,” they struggle to get a sample size in the hundreds. Hence why the “likely voter” polls tend to have higher MOEs and are clocking in as wildly out of whack with past election polling. Which is how we get these headlines about “TRUMP WINNING BIG WITH BLACK/HISPANIC/WOMEN/ETC VOTERS!!!”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 30, 2024 • 1:46:00am

I appreciate much of the reporting that The Guardian does, but its opinion section can have a lot of nonsense in it.

One of the opinion pieces on Monday lamented about Biden and the current war in Gaza, blaming Biden for not doing enough, condemning Biden for endorsing it, and giving Israel a blank check in regards to actual funding.

I don’t know what else Biden could do, and not get impeached.

As we have pointed out, foreign aid is part of laws, the funding law, Congress passes. Biden can’t change them at his own discretion.

Now, what the President could do is push a red button. Not the one for nuclear missiles, but the one labeled “terrorist”.

If Biden labeled the Netanyahu government as a terrorist organization, the US Treasury has levers to pull to basically bottle up all of Israel’s money flows around the world.

But, for Biden to do that really will get him impeached in the GOP House.

And while I suspect the current Senate would not vote to remove Biden, I’m not sure that the vote will not be close.

This is what those who are blaming Biden will not face: it’s not really him, it’s the whole country.

For various reasons, I suspect the majority think the US should remain an ally to Israel.

So blaming Biden is simply looking for a scapegoat.

No US President is going to go as far as needed to physically force Israel to stop.

This is my issue with so many leftists: they really are aching for violent revolutions.

That is why I never consider myself a “leftist”. Though I am a believer in soft socialism, of the sort that makes for safety nets, etc., I strongly believe that societies are worse off if anyone has to resort to violence just for political ends.

When this war in Gaza with Hamas started I stated here that I have no solution. I cannot help. I do not believe we can actually be much help in the long run, though short-term good samaritanism is of course always possible (e.g. sending food.)

I am wary of any solution because I fear it will be a “solution” in the worst sense.

And I think that is the kind of solution that Netanyahu is trying.

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TarHellion  May 30, 2024 • 2:03:18am

A slot tech provides his take on the woman’s claim that she was cheated out of a $1.27-million jackpot in Atlantic City. She seems to have actually won around $350 - though the game can be a bit misleading, especially if you don’t fully understand what bonuses are actually live.

NEW UPDATE! 👉 Slot Player DENIED $1.2 Million Jackpot Due to Malfunction - More Evidence Found

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 30, 2024 • 2:05:35am

re: #78 silverdolphin

A Fun AI Fail

Nice examination of trying to get a simple figure created and how poorly AI does. Frustrating. Gets close but does not understand why so it then moves furher away.

another fine example: note that the bass has four strings at the bridge, five on the neck but there are six tuning pegs…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 30, 2024 • 2:08:30am

re: #93 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

An article that is full of sad commentaries on the state of higher ed students in the UK:

Going to university? Think before you do! (Plumber vs Lecturer)

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silverdolphin  May 30, 2024 • 2:17:54am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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This is why I think free community college is a winner for the Dems. Because education is going to become lifelong, with perhaps many different training-boot camps along the way. Much of this can be done in 3-4 months not 4 years.

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Vicious Babushka  May 30, 2024 • 2:29:10am

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A Croatian-Chinese fusion restaurant: Cevapcici and Chong

A plus size amputee drag queen Dya Beatees

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Patricia Kayden  May 30, 2024 • 2:30:59am

Enjoy this word salad for breakfast

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silverdolphin  May 30, 2024 • 2:31:06am

I’d known that Airplane lifted a lot of the script from a movie called Zero Hour, after buying the rights. Here is a nice comparison.

Airplane vs. Zero Hour (widescreen)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 30, 2024 • 2:37:11am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s been my belief for a long time, since I went to school, that one should only go to college if one really wanted to learn.

The you-have-to-go attitude is death to actually learning.

Now given our society is hierarchical, and that hierarchy was enforced through access-control to things like universities, it became the progressive thing to do to tear down the walls to higher ed and try to convince everyone to go to college.

I don’t know how well that has worked. I have no way to have a control on this experiment. If we had a duplicate world and could run it so that in the 20th century our society would not have proliferated college attendance then maybe we could tell what difference it has made to encourage everyone to go to college.

One thing we do know right now is that a lot of young people have taken on too much debt to just get a diploma. If one is so deeply in debt that one has to spend all of their 20’s and even 30’s trying to pay it off then they’ll miss out on the time of their life when they could have actually climbed that so-called ladder.

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Patricia Kayden  May 30, 2024 • 2:40:17am

re: #109 silverdolphin

Very interesting. Pretty much used the same dialogue but turned it into an hilarious comedy. Even the sequel was great.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 30, 2024 • 2:44:49am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That dude, besides obviously being triggered by what he thinks is “woke”, represents what I consider to be a bad way to think about education.

To think that life is about increasing one’s salary through a degree then one has a highly skewed (and I think diminished) view of life.

Unfortunately, even the self-declared progressive community has the same attitude.

Obama was one of those who kept pushing “STEM” (a term I dislike) because it is good for business.

And many other Democrats (and Republicans) think that way.

If one is concerned about making money then go start businesses until one finds success.

The true value of an education can only be found in how it transforms the student.

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2024 • 2:52:04am

re: #108 Patricia Kayden

Enjoy this word salad for breakfast

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So how big a check did he get to say that shit? Because he’s been arguing for the past two years that Ukraine should basically roll over and return to being Putin’s bitch in order to have “peace.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 30, 2024 • 3:26:17am

re: #54 jaunte

@cait.bsky.social
i am personally shocked they managed to make it look stupider

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Let’s face it, if I owned a monstrosity like that, I’d want it to be invisible, too.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 30, 2024 • 3:26:42am

re: #52 calochortus

A very happy birthday to you!!!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 30, 2024 • 3:28:34am

re: #66 DodgerFan1988

Damn. Junior has aged. How old is he?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 30, 2024 • 3:35:54am

Well this is a first. 4/6

A triple whiff and a solve. Alrighty then.

Wordle 1,076 4/6

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Shropshire Slasher  May 30, 2024 • 3:38:52am

Let’s get under the covers for our Thursday drive time music!

AWOLNATION - Beds Are Burning ft. Tim McIlrath of Rise Against (Official Video)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 30, 2024 • 3:41:43am
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Shropshire Slasher  May 30, 2024 • 3:50:17am

re: #54 jaunte

@cait.bsky.social
i am personally shocked they managed to make it look stupider

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In those photos I think it is a huge improvement for the truck, a lot less refrigerator-like, IRL it is probably a different matter. I only have seen one in the wild, in a funeral procession, and they are fugly.

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 3:51:23am

re: #108 Patricia Kayden

Enjoy this word salad for breakfast

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If he shows up for the debate the emperor’s lack of clothes might finally become apparent to some people

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 3:56:22am

On today’s spelling bee

dmNkcnhNZmdyUGZCanVsVXlEcW1CMlFKaVpucWVHVGp0ZFNzRFJlcVVDND06OoRbGaQ7lmHeZ3coGKhmtuE=

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Shropshire Slasher  May 30, 2024 • 4:20:12am

The war of attrition continues in Ukraine. Read the whole article.

Ukraine’s fight isn’t merely for its existence as a nation - it’s a battle for the very fabric of the global order.

Yes, it’s about safeguarding European security - a rallying cry heard in countless statements from Western officials, often accompanied by assurances of limited air defence and ammunition - but as Ukraine continues to lose ground, towns, and lives, the West’s response is tepid, with its only firm stance drawn around Nato borders, where geopolitical interests overshadow humanitarian concerns.

But what if Putin dares to cross these lines, dismissing Western threats as mere bluster? What if Ukraine falls, emboldening Putin to pursue further expansion into the other former Soviet Union states that, in his view, belong in the Russian empire? Will Nato truly honour its pledge to collective security, or is that promise nothing but hollow rhetoric?

The fact is, Nato’s resilience is more fragile than we think. And a victory for Putin could see the world’s most successful alliance begin to crumble.

yahoo.com

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Patricia Kayden  May 30, 2024 • 4:28:51am

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Patricia Kayden  May 30, 2024 • 4:30:36am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 30, 2024 • 4:36:15am

re: #110 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

One thing we do know right now is that a lot of young people have taken on too much debt to just get a diploma. If one is so deeply in debt that one has to spend all of their 20’s and even 30’s trying to pay it off then they’ll miss out on the time of their life when they could have actually climbed that so-called ladder.

The argument has been made that since you need a diploma to get a job, you should be able to write education costs off as a business expense

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Belafon  May 30, 2024 • 4:37:45am
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Shropshire Slasher  May 30, 2024 • 4:39:20am
After a man was charged with driving on a suspended license, he appeared virtually in court - while driving.

The man attended his hearing via Zoom on May 15 before Judge Cedric Simpson in Washtenaw County’s 14A District Court.

Upon joining the hearing, the 44 year-old man appeared to be driving a vehicle. When Simpson asked the defendant if he was driving, the defendant responded that he was pulling into his doctor’s office. The judge then waited for the man to stop and park the vehicle.

“I’m looking at his records and he doesn’t have a license,” Simpson said. “He’s suspended and he’s just driving… “

mlive.com

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silverdolphin  May 30, 2024 • 4:48:39am

re: #123 Shropshire Slasher

The war of attrition continues in Ukraine. Read the whole article.

yahoo.com

And I try and let people know it is not just about NATO. Ukraine produces 10% of the world’s grain, exporting almost as much to Africa as Russia. What would happen if Russia got control of that wheat? It would likely become the largest exporter of grain to Africa.

What impact could it make on African countries by threatening those exports?

Ukraine gives Russia direct leverage on 2 different continents.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 30, 2024 • 4:53:11am

re: #129 silverdolphin

It is about the fact that Russia has declared war on international norms and standards. This would only encourage other nations to try to do the same.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 30, 2024 • 4:54:27am

Musical theme of the week

It’s Raining Bullshit

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Dave In Austin  May 30, 2024 • 4:55:04am

re: #52 calochortus

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 30, 2024 • 4:57:05am

re: #132 Dave In Austin

ZFRpQXpUdVBEU0MvZldDRXpjWlFNaEovajIxUXFDSWFPNjhVckt1cHJzMTNhcFZWeDRpeDIzKzg0RGRTQ252aDFBZ21MUFlBck9iSWd1L3BhSDVTVjJENlJNZGV0ckdrZEZQWlIxZ2haRXBUMytaS3NVdmE1SmVrWTYzcXByekttQzJhYVoxOXZFVllWMmRPT1c4M3dLY1MvQVlZVjhIcENISXFvMDhuRE1uS0h0d3UycXFBUkMvKzNMdkdYK1FzSVh2dy9kOVBxT2toUVlUb0lnbVNMZmhjM0FzYWFhK1NCMlhIUGtEbEhoRWYyMGJuL1F1ZmFoNXdINXRFMjdKVzo63dhOgpBcM4jADilDN7PphQ==

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Rightwingconspirator  May 30, 2024 • 4:59:48am

I’m shocked I say…

Elon Musk Talks on the Phone With Donald Trump Several Times a Month: Report
Musk wants Trump to start posting again at X, but the men also discuss immigration and “voter fraud.”

gizmodo.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 30, 2024 • 5:07:15am

It’s a holiday here in Germany and much of Catholic Europe: Corpus Christi

(Why would they name a holiday after a town in Texas?)

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Vicious Babushka  May 30, 2024 • 5:12:52am

Tell me again how you’re not voting for “Genocide Joe”

mstdn.social

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Vicious Babushka  May 30, 2024 • 5:15:06am

re: #136 Vicious Babushka

Tell me again how you’re not voting for “Genocide Joe”

mstdn.social

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(((Archangel1)))  May 30, 2024 • 5:16:04am
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steve_davis  May 30, 2024 • 5:17:31am

Today’s problem. Larsen with black, to play and win.

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jeffreyw  May 30, 2024 • 5:46:15am

just having salad for lunch: tuna salad, mac salad, potato salad

Good morning!

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 30, 2024 • 5:51:52am

re: #139 steve_davis

I do believe the board is set up backwards because if that setup is correct f1=Q is the killer move.

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A Cranky One  May 30, 2024 • 5:55:55am

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Shropshire Slasher  May 30, 2024 • 6:09:53am
Israel’s military has said it has taken control of the strategically important buffer zone along the Gaza-Egypt border known as the Philadelphi Corridor, meaning it now controls Gaza’s entire land border.
A spokesman for the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said about 20 tunnels used by Hamas to smuggle weapons into Gaza had been found within the zone.
Egyptian TV quoted sources denying this, and said Israel was trying to justify its military operation in the southern Gaza city of Rafah.
The IDF has continued its offensive in Rafah and elsewhere in Gaza, saying air strikes hit over 50 “terror targets” over the past day.
Three Israeli soldiers were killed and three others seriously injured on Wednesday in a booby-trapped building in Rafah, the IDF said. Two other soldiers were killed in a car-ramming attack near the city of Nablus in the occupied West Bank, it said. Security forces are searching for the driver.

bbc.com

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 6:11:17am

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 30, 2024 • 6:13:48am

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lawhawk  May 30, 2024 • 6:16:25am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump’s trial deliberations will be getting underway in about 30 minutes, with the judge reiterating the instructions, and providing the readbacks/evidence that the jury wants to consider (namely conversations between Pecker and Trump and Cohen).

All the usual MAGA nutjobs are busy claiming that this case is BS and Trump got shafted by not having his lawyers able to speak last, while everyone else understands how trials work and anyone who has ever watched Law and Order (which is set in NYC in this very building) knows that the prosecutor gets the last word on summing up the case to the jury.

Of course, most of the people making these BS claims are know nothings who have no understanding of the criminal legal process, and the professional propagandists know, but don’t care that they’re lying to their viewers endlessly about the legal jeopardy Trump faces for his criminal conduct.

I’ve seen some folks claim that Trump will likely get a slap on the wrist in the form of probation, even if he’s found guilty on all the 31 felony counts. I’m not as sure as some that this will be the case, in part because of the sheer number of counts, the pervasive nature of the crime spree accounted for here, and the continued refusal to accept responsibility for his conduct. He’s completely unrepentant, attacks the court, the entire process, and doesn’t care about facts or reality. That will weigh in on his ultimate sentencing, as will his repeated violation of the conditions of his bail (aka the gag order).

But know this - a conviction in this case means that he’s a felon, that he would not be able to get jobs in many sectors of our economy, and would/should be forbidden from getting a security clearance at all. SF-86 section 22 requires explicitly stating whether you’ve engaged in criminal conduct, indicted, convicted, sentenced, took a deal, etc., and the nature of those charges.

In Trump’s case, he’d have to write down that he’s indicted on stealing/mishandling classified info, awaiting judgment on 31 felony counts in NY, and awaiting trial in DC and GA as well. In other words, there’s no way Trump should ever get clearance to be near classified information ever again. In fact, he’d run out of room on the form to address all the counts for which he is charged, even if you break it down to just the four cases.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 30, 2024 • 6:16:34am

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No Malarkey!  May 30, 2024 • 6:19:54am

A producer of The Apprentice, his NDA having expired, tells what it was like working with Donald Trump. When selecting the winner of Season One, Trump refused to select Kwame Jackson because he thought America wouldn’t believe a N-word winning (Trump used the word).

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 30, 2024 • 6:20:26am

re: #147 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Today’s was a bitch!

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 30, 2024 • 6:25:47am

A contender for the Republican nomination to take on Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) in the 2024 election is being buffeted by reports that he has continuously been hauled into court for failure to pay child support.

According to a report from NBC News, former NBA player Royce White, now a rightwing podcaster, is facing an uphill battle for the nomination despite getting a boost with a GOP endorsement with Sen. Steve Daines (R-MT) chair of the National Republican Senatorial Committee telling reporters, “I think he’d have difficulty winning a general election.”

According to NBNC, White was given a boost in MAGA circles when former Donald Trump adviser Steve Bannon labeled him, “…a leader, a warrior. He’s a rising star in the MAGA movement.”

Now his campaign is staggering under the cloud of his personal foibles.

As NBC reports, “White, a father of four, was twice found in contempt of court over the findings, one of them in a Minnesota county where he remains in ‘constructive contempt,’ facing the ongoing threat of a 180-day jail sentence should he again fail to keep up with the payments. The next hearing in that case is set for Oct. 21, two weeks before the election.”

Pushing back against the reporting, White claimed, “A lot of people have child support. A lot of people have alimony. A lot of people have back child support. All you liberals really just want to shame people with kids, because you’re anti-human as f—-. That’s it. I love my children. And I’m current on my child support. I pay more child support than probably many people in this country over the course of their lives. It’s really a nothing issue.”

Michael Brodkorb, a former deputy chair of the Minnesota Republican Party, admitted that White was not “properly vetted,” and claimed, “It’s up to the public to determine whether something is fair game or not. And they will ultimately decide if it’s relevant to the race. I think they will.”

nbcnews.com

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 30, 2024 • 6:28:55am

Sam & Martha & Clarence & Ginni is the worst remake of Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice I’ve ever seen.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 30, 2024 • 6:30:11am

re: #150 Joe Bacon ✅

The R’s are using only one thing for any candidate running for office. Are you completely loyal to DT? This is their only measuring stick.

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gocart mozart  May 30, 2024 • 6:31:34am

Blondie 1975 A Girl Should Know Better CBGB

Men you been lookin’ all around for the women
But they always been right there
Nowadays a woman has to haul off and hit a man
T’ make him know she’s there
Other night a woman came up ‘n hit me
Like I wasn’t even there
Yeah, mmm dawned on me, man
That a man been doin’ a woman unfair

Y’ gotta wait for your woman
Let her know you’re there
I knew I had to go out ‘n tell all of the women
That I knew they were there
Now ev’rywhere I go the women all know that I know
Mmm, there ain’t no other place to go but there
I’m talkin’ about women
Yeah, I’m talkin’ about women, man
They don’t have to hit me
To make me know it’s there
None o’ my women have tears in their eyes
You can ask ‘em about me I swear
‘n they’ll tell you
That’s one man I swear
Yeah that’s a man
‘nuff about tellin’ you this

Mmm, y’ gotta wait for your woman

Let her know you’re there
I knew I had to go out ‘n tell all of the women
That I knew they were there
Now ev’rywhere I go the women all know

That I know

There ain’t no, there ain’t no other place to go but there
I’m talkin’ about women
They don’t have to hit me, man
To make me know it’s there
None o’ my women have tears in their eyes
You can ask ‘em about me I swear

Nowadays a Woman’s Gotta Hit a Man

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Shropshire Slasher  May 30, 2024 • 6:32:48am
Sen. John Fetterman, the Pennsylvania Democrat who has emerged as an unlikely champion for Israel since October 7, disavowed his alma mater, Harvard University, while receiving an award at Yeshiva University’s commencement ceremony.

Fetterman and Y.U. leaders used Wednesday’s event, held at Louis Armstrong Stadium in Queens, to portray the flagship Modern Orthodox university as a counterpoint to college campuses across the United States (including Harvard’s) that have had pro-Palestinian encampments and whose graduation ceremonies have been marked by disruptive protests.

In his remarks on stage after receiving the Presidential Medallion, which Y.U. says is its most prestigious award for global leadership, Fetterman echoed that comparison. He said the last time he attended a graduation ceremony was his own at Harvard, 25 years ago.

“I have been profoundly disappointed,” he said, mentioning “Harvard’s inability to stand up for the Jewish community after October 7.”

He then removed a red stole from his shoulders, from Harvard’s traditional graduation robes.

“I do not fundamentally believe that it’s right for me to wear this today,” he said to applause.

jpost.com

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Nerdy Fish  May 30, 2024 • 6:34:09am

re: #150 Joe Bacon ✅

I have my problems with Amy Klobuchar, but she’s a damn sight better than any Republican. That was always going to be an uphill battle for this guy, given my state’s progressive inclinations. This is more like icing on the cake.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 30, 2024 • 6:34:40am
Police have arrested and charged a man with a slew of hate crimes, including attempted murder, after allegedly trying to hit a group of people with a car outside a yeshiva in Brooklyn on Wednesday.

Authorities say the suspect, 58-year-old Asghar Ali, jumped the curb on Glenwood Road and drove his white Ford Crown Victoria on the sidewalk around 11:35 a.m.

Video shows the car driving up onto the sidewalk and chasing a group of young men, several of which fled into the Mesivta Yakov School for safety.

Moments before, on the opposite side of the building, the wheels of the vehicle were smoking when the driver slammed the brakes after spotting a different group of Jewish teens.

Eyewitness News spoke with two of the young men off camera who were outside when that man tried to run them over.

abc7ny.com

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Florida Panhandler  May 30, 2024 • 6:37:42am

re: #97 silverdolphin

It might be better to teach probability and statistics in high school rather than Trig. Most people have no useful tools for evaluating things with shades of gray probabilities rather than hard numbers.

Trig functions are used pretty extensively in Calculus which is a prerequisite for most Statistics classes. You can get by with some basics without using Trig functions but really the standard academic path Algebra—Trig—Calculus— Statistics is there for a reason.

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 6:37:49am

re: #146 lawhawk

Q (cause I am not real lawyer):
Does the gag order stay in place if/while tfg appeals?

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Nerdy Fish  May 30, 2024 • 6:40:56am

re: #157 Florida Panhandler

Trig functions are used pretty extensively in Calculus which is a prerequisite for most Statistics classes. You can get by with some basics without using Trig functions but really the standard academic path Algebra—Trig—Calculus— Statistics is there for a reason.

That seems odd. I did a bunch of statistics in both high school and college, and never really had to use any calculus. Maybe I’m mis-remembering things, though.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 30, 2024 • 6:41:53am

John Daly-esque!

Professional golfer Charley Hull has gone viral in the lead-up to this week’s U.S. Women’s Open. The viral moment has nothing to do with a shot he hit, a unique outfit choice from her sponsor Malbon, or anything she posted to her Instagram. No, this viral moment has everything to do with a good old-fashioned lung dart.

Hull was spotted smoking a cigarette while signing autographs at Lancaster Country Club on Tuesday afternoon. Smoking may not be the right word, if we’re being honest, she was inhaling the thing without using either of her hands to even hold it.

outkick.com

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No Malarkey!  May 30, 2024 • 6:43:19am

re: #158 Dangerman

Q (cause I am not real lawyer):
Does the gag order stay in place if/while tfg appeals?

The judge can impose whatever restrictions on the convict he decides on, up to and including remanding him to custody.

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lawhawk  May 30, 2024 • 6:45:06am

re: #158 Dangerman

Q (cause I am not real lawyer):
Does the gag order stay in place if/while tfg appeals?

I’m not entirely sure. There are motions and other filings and rulings that occur, and the gag order may be superseded by those filings and motions and rulings.

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darthstar  May 30, 2024 • 6:47:43am

Welcome to day 2 of jury deliberation. Yesterday, the jurors, after four long weeks, finally got to talk about the case with each other and their initial questions to the judge indicate that they were paying attention at the start of the trial as well as at the end. Now they’ve had a good night’s sleep and a little time to think about their initial discussions. Today should be a good day for them.

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 6:48:07am

re: #159 Nerdy Fish

That seems odd. I did a bunch of statistics in both high school and college, and never really had to use any calculus. Maybe I’m mis-remembering things, though.

if you are, is it statistically significant?

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 30, 2024 • 6:48:59am

re: #117 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Well this is a first. 4/6

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 30, 2024 • 6:49:00am

Texas has somehow found another way to shove Christianity into public schools and this one’s just plain sneaky.

I guess giving schools the option to replace trained counselors with untrained Christian chaplains, and trying to get the Ten Commandments in every classroom, and proposing a platform that would force schools to offer “instruction on the Bible” just wasn’t enough.

Last year, Republican lawmakers passed a bill (costing over $731 million over the next two years) directing the Texas Education Agency to develop instructional materials that aligned with state standards. This would, in theory, be a huge benefit for cash-strapped districts that wouldn’t have to purchase separate textbooks from outside companies anymore. While public schools wouldn’t be forced to use this material, they would at least have that option… but the state also dangled a carrot in front of districts: We’ll give you at least $40 per student if you use our resources. It would be very hard for low-income districts to pass up.

Whether or not this was a good use of state dollars is up for debate. Critics say the money would have been better spent on, say, raising teachers’ salaries in order to attract better educators to the field. But on Wednesday, the State Board of Education finally posted drafts of the new material online—including the English Language Arts and Reading material for students in Kindergarten through Grade 5. The public now has a few months to weigh in before the material is finalized.

One of the big takeaways? This material is infused with Christianity.

friendlyatheist.com

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darthstar  May 30, 2024 • 6:50:21am

re: #161 No Malarkey!

The judge can impose whatever restrictions on the convict he decides on, up to and including remanding him to custody.

Remanding him to custody would be the most efficient method of enforcing the gag order.

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darthstar  May 30, 2024 • 6:51:46am
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Nerdy Fish  May 30, 2024 • 6:52:03am

re: #167 Joe Bacon ✅

Florida did a similar thing, offering teachers a $3,000 bonus (was it to the teachers directly or for them to use on classroom materials? I don’t exactly know) to attend a seminar covering state education material. The teachers reported that the entire seminar was saturated in Christian Nationalism.

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(((Archangel1)))  May 30, 2024 • 6:54:03am
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Nerdy Fish  May 30, 2024 • 6:54:12am

re: #169 darthstar

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mmmirele  May 30, 2024 • 6:54:48am

re: #90 Dr Lizardo

This is hilarious - it’s like a scene straight out of some comedy.

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This is Judge Simpson, he doesn’t put up with shit in his courtroom. Especially from sovereign citizens (I don’t think this guy is). He has quite the YT following.

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Dave In Austin  May 30, 2024 • 6:57:17am

re: #133 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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gocart mozart  May 30, 2024 • 6:59:08am
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Joe Bacon ✅  May 30, 2024 • 7:00:21am

Conservatives are plotting the demise of health care entitlements and health insurance subsidies ahead of the potential return of Donald Trump to the White House.

Republican sources told Axios there was more planning underway ahead of this year’s election than there was in 2016, when Trump scored a surprise win, and a chaotic transition period and the lack of a replacement plan doomed efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act in his first year in office.

“Several GOP lobbyists told Axios they’ve received intensifying requests from health care clients in recent weeks to game out the beginning of a new Trump term and build relationships with Trump world,” Axios reported. “Insiders say they’re generally skeptical that Republicans would pursue a major ACA overhaul or full repeal of new Medicare drug pricing negotiations, but conservative-preferred changes to those programs are possible.”

If Republicans also win the House and Senate, they’re planning to fast-track a reconciliation budget to extend the 2017 Trump tax cuts and push through partisan health care cuts.

GOP majorities would not renew enhanced insurance subsidies that caused ACA enrollment to surge, and Republicans see this as an opportunity to crack down on Medicare Advantage overpayments to insurers and cutting back on Medicare payments for outpatient care at hospitals.

They’re also looking at cuts to Medicaid and pushing through GOP-favored work requirements in a reconciliation package, and Trump-aligned groups Paragon Health Institute, America First Policy Institute and the Heritage Foundation are already fielding calls from the health care industry.

“You don’t want to get ahead of your skis and give industry a chance to start figuring out what they’re going to do and what actions are going to reduce government subsidies to industry,” said Paragon president Brian Blase, a former Trump health official.

axios.com

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darthstar  May 30, 2024 • 7:01:38am

re: #172 Nerdy Fish

There’s a shit-ton of corroborating evidence. At first glimpse it would appear they’re just looking to make sense of it all…or they’re hunting for an immunity idol they can use to exonerate Trump after his compelling defense.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 30, 2024 • 7:03:20am

re: #110 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s been my belief for a long time, since I went to school, that one should only go to college if one really wanted to learn.

The you-have-to-go attitude is death to actually learning.

Now given our society is hierarchical, and that hierarchy was enforced through access-control to things like universities, it became the progressive thing to do to tear down the walls to higher ed and try to convince everyone to go to college.

I don’t know how well that has worked. I have no way to have a control on this experiment. If we had a duplicate world and could run it so that in the 20th century our society would not have proliferated college attendance then maybe we could tell what difference it has made to encourage everyone to go to college.

One thing we do know right now is that a lot of young people have taken on too much debt to just get a diploma. If one is so deeply in debt that one has to spend all of their 20’s and even 30’s trying to pay it off then they’ll miss out on the time of their life when they could have actually climbed that so-called ladder.

The problem is that college costs have skyrocketed faster than inflation. It is debt that is ruining their futures, not the decision to seek education. Something has to be done to rein in costs and provide students the opportunity for college, without imposing outrageous costs that cannot be dispelled by bankruptcy.

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gocart mozart  May 30, 2024 • 7:03:48am
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Hecuba's daughter  May 30, 2024 • 7:05:35am

re: #117 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Hecuba's daughter  May 30, 2024 • 7:09:06am

re: #122 Dangerman

On today’s spelling bee

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 30, 2024 • 7:09:30am

re: #167 Joe Bacon ✅

Why stop at the Ten Commandments? Post the whole of Leviticus so pupils really know how they are expected to live as God’s children.

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gocart mozart  May 30, 2024 • 7:12:39am
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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 7:16:12am

re: #178 Hecuba’s daughter

The problem is that college costs have skyrocketed faster than inflation. It is debt that is ruining their futures, not the decision to seek education. Something has to be done to rein in costs and provide students the opportunity for college, without imposing outrageous costs that cannot be dispelled by bankruptcy.

couple that with the entire student loan / financing system.
the schools have almost no skin in the game

the borrowers:
- mostly no credit history
- no objective way to analyze actual future earning potential (ie ability to repay)
- and they get to borrow more money easier than some people refinancing their own house

the school gets it money up front and is out of the 20+ year transaction.
- it has no real obligation to provide a value for dollars education.
- if, say, you protest too loudly it can boot you and you’re still stuck with your loans

schools can charge whatever they like as long as they arent part of the collection equation, and enough students qualify each year

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darthstar  May 30, 2024 • 7:17:37am

re: #183 gocart mozart

He’s making his wife sound like a righteous asshole.

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 7:18:35am

re: #181 Hecuba’s daughter

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 30, 2024 • 7:18:55am

re: #185 darthstar

He’s making his wife sound like a righteous asshole.

Just like he is…

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 7:19:03am

re: #182 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Why stop at the Ten Commandments? Post the whole of Leviticus so pupils really know how they are expected to live as God’s children.

short attention spans
cliff notes version

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 30, 2024 • 7:24:47am

Trump Is Making Some Seriously Big Demands of His Top Donors

Forget lunch for a $1 million donation to his campaign. Donald Trump is now telling his top donors that it will cost $25 million or more to get a chance for a private moment with the former president, according to The Washington Post. Donors who attended a lavish meeting with the former president at a hotel in New York earlier this month told the newspaper about a story Trump allegedly told them of a businessman who offered the $1 million lunch deal. “I’m not having lunch,” Trump is said to have responded. “You’ve got to make it $25 million.” Another businessman was told the former president would not be “very happy” if the man donated his traditional $2 million to $3 million, and that Trump expected a $25 million or $50 million contribution. The donors said Trump backed up his comments by blaming Biden for ending tax cuts for the rich by 2025 if he is to resume office. “So whatever you guys can do, I appreciate it,” Trump said. In all, 11 donors, advisers and allies close to the president spoke to The Post for the story, as the former president seeks new ways to pay for mounting legal costs. The news comes after Trump was accused of asking top oil executives to raise $1 billion for his 2024 campaign during a meeting a Mar-a-Lago. Legal experts, however, told The Post that Trump is toying with federal campaign finance laws. “He can’t say, ‘I want you to give me $1 million,’” said Larry Noble, a campaign finance lawyer. The Trump campaign did not respond to The Post when questioned for comment.

washingtonpost.com

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 30, 2024 • 7:25:24am

re: #188 Dangerman

short attention spans
cliff notes version

Because if they had them read it all there would be a chance the readers would realize that the Bible is being cherry-picked to manipulate them.

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 7:27:21am

re: #185 darthstar

He’s making his wife sound like a righteous asshole.

no one has ever argued that scotus judges or their families dont have the same 1A rights as everyone else.

what was clear up till recently is they took it upon themselves to behave in a fashion that (mostly) didnt even allow the appearance of impropriety.

you think she doesnt know he’s a judge?
you think he doesn’t know whether she knows he’s a judge?
you think they dont eat breakfast at the same table?
you think if he really tried he couldnt ‘persuade’ her to respect his position on the court, regardless of her 1A ‘rights’?

alito is not ingenuously describing what actually happened
he’s not saying something like this wont happen again
he’s not even acknowledging that appearances matter

he used a lot of words to say “fuck you all”

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Jay C  May 30, 2024 • 7:27:32am

re: #189 Joe Bacon ✅

Yeah, as if Donald Trump really gives a shit about “federal campaign laws” in any case?

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darthstar  May 30, 2024 • 7:27:43am

re: #189 Joe Bacon ✅

So if I give you $25 million or even $50 million, you say that IF you win you’ll save me that much in taxes a year or two from now? Do I look like I just fell off the turnip truck?

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 30, 2024 • 7:28:49am

re: #193 darthstar

So if I give you $25 million or even $50 million, you say that IF you win you’ll save me that much in taxes a year or two from now? Do I look like I just fell off the turnip truck?

Trump—I’m your whore for $25 million…

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 30, 2024 • 7:29:54am

The NRA wins again.

Supreme Court unanimously rules for NRA in free speech fight

thehill.com

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 30, 2024 • 7:31:58am

re: #195 Joe Bacon ✅

Did you expect anything else with DT’s cronies on the bench? I didn’t.

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Nerdy Fish  May 30, 2024 • 7:32:15am

re: #195 Joe Bacon ✅

The NRA wins again.

Supreme Court unanimously rules for NRA in free speech fight

thehill.com

That one seems pretty cut-and-dried, though. Don’t get me wrong, I’m no fan of the NRA, but it was a unanimous decision for a reason.

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danarchy  May 30, 2024 • 7:35:03am

Anyone know the reasoning behind not giving a written copy of the jury instructions to the jury? That just seams really weird and unnecessary and time consuming.

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lawhawk  May 30, 2024 • 7:35:39am

re: #195 Joe Bacon ✅

Sotomayor wrote the decision. The state’s conduct went over the line in to coercing businesses to avoid dealing with the NRA. The state can still go after the NRA, but not in the way they had.

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 7:39:06am

marlon approves of my work

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dat_said  May 30, 2024 • 7:39:58am

Christian Science Monitor: Boston has had only three murders this year. What is it doing right?

You have to get to the eighteenth paragraph before they get around to saying “it’s not because there are more cops on the street”.

The greatest success has been YouthConnect, a partnership between BPD and the Boys & Girls Clubs of Boston. The program places licensed social workers in police stations to address the underlying causes of juvenile delinquency and, hopefully, prevent crime before it starts.

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lawhawk  May 30, 2024 • 7:40:21am

re: #198 danarchy

In NY, my understanding is that case law that prevents its use without consent of defendant, because it could result in prejudice against the defendant.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 30, 2024 • 7:40:40am

Beautiful day to take the Goldwing out for a ride, so I will.

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Jay C  May 30, 2024 • 7:40:51am

re: #186 Dangerman

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lawhawk  May 30, 2024 • 7:42:02am

re: #202 lawhawk

It’s also because of a concern that the jury will deliberate/debate the law itself, not the charges. Their role is to deliberate the guilt of the defendant on the charge, not the underlying law itself and how it is applied.

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2024 • 7:43:51am

re: #203 Shropshire Slasher

Beautiful day to take the Goldwing out for a ride, so I will.

Sturgis for rice-grinders.

(I still have an SR500.)

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gocart mozart  May 30, 2024 • 7:45:57am
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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 7:48:24am

re: #203 Shropshire Slasher

Beautiful day to take the Goldwing out for a ride, so I will.

Goldwing
that explains it.
(j/k)

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 7:49:59am

re: #206 Decatur Deb

Sturgis for rice-grinders.

(I still have an SR500.)

which always brings out my envy face

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2024 • 8:00:48am

re: #127 Belafon

Some morning drive music:

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Video

They’re from Fullerton! Like Phillip K. Dick and wrenchwench.

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2024 • 8:12:44am

re: #211 No Malarkey!

No shock, there.

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(((Archangel1)))  May 30, 2024 • 8:13:07am

On Sunday I told a whole bunch of people that I’d wager Wednesday and Thursday would see some big developments in Israeli politics, primarily WRT the Israeli opposition parties and pressure on Benny Gantz’s party to leave the post-October “Emergency Unity” government.

Man, did I call it:
Yesterday afternoon brought with it the landslide election win of decorated hero and new Labor head Yair Golan (who beat his near-nonexistent competitors with more than 90%).
Yesterday evening saw the prominent opposition party leaders - left-wing former PM Yair Lapid, secular-right Avigdor Liberman and right-wing Gideon Sa’ar - convene to convince Gantz to finally call it quits (his presence has been primarily to be the responsible adult in the room, and neutralize Ben Gvir’s incompetent and belligerent demands).
Now Gantz’s party submitted a no-confidence vote to dissolve the Knesset parliament (which just returned from recess) - and with it, the government.
Given the pressure within the Likud by battered and repeatedly-betrayed Defense Minister Yoav Galant, my prediction of a parliamentary dissolution and the country heading to elections by July seems to be very much on track.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 30, 2024 • 8:14:42am

re: #211 No Malarkey!

America’s billionaires are warming up to Trump as he promises to be their whore.

As I posted above Trump now demands $25 million for a personal audience.

Stormy only charged $130K…

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gocart mozart  May 30, 2024 • 8:14:52am
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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 8:16:54am

guy really knows how to run a grift

- tfg bragged about donating his $400k a year presidential salary
(whether he actually ended up doing it or not)

- his golfing cost taxpayers more than an estimated $115m in travel and security.

$115m/400k is about 287 years of salary

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2024 • 8:17:02am

re: #214 Joe Bacon ✅

As I posted above Trump now demands $25 million for a personal audience.

Stormy only charged $130K…

She delivers.

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Nerdy Fish  May 30, 2024 • 8:17:29am

re: #213 (((Archangel1)))

July is shaping up to be a political massacre, with the Tories in the UK looking to get absolutely shellacked, and now this.

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2024 • 8:18:56am
loser
48.99%
4,892
winner (the one I canvassed for)
50.81%
5,073
Write-in
0.20%
20
total votes
9,985
for State Representative, Oregon

Every vote counts.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 30, 2024 • 8:19:50am

re: #213 (((Archangel1)))

re: #218 Nerdy Fish

July is going to be sizzling; politically that is.

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No Malarkey!  May 30, 2024 • 8:19:58am

The reading of evidence completed, the jury is now returning to deliberations.

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sagehen  May 30, 2024 • 8:20:33am

re: #213 (((Archangel1)))

Yesterday afternoon brought with it the landslide election win of decorated hero and new Labor head Yair Golan (who beat his near-nonexistent competitors with more than 90%).

What did he win? An open Knesset seat, a mayoral race, party chair????

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 8:24:26am

re: #214 Joe Bacon ✅

As I posted above Trump now demands $25 million for a personal audience.

Stormy only charged $130K…

the actual encounter, in 2006, was about how she found herself in that room and (by her telling) couldnt easily walk out

money wasnt an issue until 10 years later when tfg and his lawyer/fixer brought it up.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 30, 2024 • 8:28:58am

re: #185 darthstar

He’s making his wife sound like a righteous asshole.

Birds of a feather and all.

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William Lewis  May 30, 2024 • 8:29:14am

re: #206 Decatur Deb

Sturgis for rice-grinders.

(I still have an SR500.)

Heh. I was driving through the neighborhood the other day with my son and slowed down because I saw a “For Sale” sign on a Honda Nighthawk. Pretty red bike. John asked if I wanted to stop and find out about it. I said that no, there was a lady in Memphis who would probably kill me faster than it if I bought another bike and that she was a better ride at this point in my life anyway.

He seemed to think that was TMI for some funny reason … 😱 😈 🤣🤣🤣

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 30, 2024 • 8:32:06am

re: #192 Jay C

Yeah, as if Donald Trump really gives a shit about “federal campaign laws” in any case?

Or ANY laws.

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 8:34:55am

re: #225 William Lewis

Heh. I was driving through the neighborhood the other day with my son and slowed down because I saw a “For Sale” sign on a Honda Nighthawk. Pretty red bike. John asked if I wanted to stop and find out about it. I said that no, there was a lady in Memphis who would probably kill me faster than it if I bought another bike and that she was a better ride at this point in my life anyway.

He seemed to think that was TMI for some funny reason … 😱 😈 🤣🤣🤣

…built for comfort, not for speed

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 30, 2024 • 8:37:53am

re: #215 gocart mozart

Ooooh! I get to say it two days in a row!

Cry moar, bitch!

GOTDAMMIT that feels good!

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 30, 2024 • 8:40:57am

re: #215 gocart mozart

Stan Freberg - Try

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lawhawk  May 30, 2024 • 8:41:20am

Appeal to bulkshit:

Trump: New York will lose ‘trillions and trillions’ if you convict me

NY will not lose a single dollar from convicting Trump. NY will actually begin resolving a tax loss from Trump businesses, which have engaged in systemic malfeasance for decades.

Businesses will continue seeking out NY because it is the world’s financial capital, and it’s clear that Trump couldn’t make it in NY without criminal conduct. Other businesses have no such issues.

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(((Archangel1)))  May 30, 2024 • 8:42:21am

re: #218 Nerdy Fish

July is shaping up to be a political massacre, with the Tories in the UK looking to get absolutely shellacked, and now this.

Netanyahu’s party is even worse off than the Tories, with nearly 80% of Israelis blaming his negligence and incompetence for creating the conditions that made Hamas’s October 7 massacre possible (through both failing to consider that Hamas might change tactics beyond merely firing rockets - which he exploited to his political advantage in the past - and moving southern border troops north temporarily to appease Ben-Gvir and his cheap and insignificant political stunt).

As I mentioned before, the Israeli south has been a Likud stronghold for decades due to internal issues dating back to PM Menachem Begin. Tradition and family loyalties traditionally play a big part in how many people vote in Israel - and the majority of southern voters consistently voted Likud in the same way Israeli-Arabs overwhelmingly vote for the Israeli-Arab parties and Ultra-orthodox vote for Ultra-orthodox parties.

But for Likud, those days are gone in the post-October landscape. Hundreds of thousands of southern Israelis STILL haven’t been able to return to their houses, some of which were razed on October 7. A similar situation exists in the north, where tens of thousands remain evacuated from present-day ghost cities being fired at by Hezbollah for months. Hundreds of thousands of their traditional voters, many of whom vote regularly for the party that represented their parents, feel abandoned and betrayed by the Netanyahu coalition. Especially the man at the top, who they saw going to great lengths to neuter his “partners” (made a laughing stock out of Smotrich and barely let Ben-Gvir do anything). After seeming in an understandable state of shock for a long time, many seem to have snapped out of it. They blame Bibi, the man they thought could do no wrong. And they see his domestic lies and gaslight for what it is (30 years too long IMHO - I’ve hated the “lying lousy douchebag”, as I called him at the time, since March 1994).

And they are by no means the only ones. The political landscape in Israel shifted drastically on October 7 - we haven’t even begun to truly see how much.

Tories may well end up looking at Likud on their way out, and going “well, at least we didn’t have it THAT bad.”

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 30, 2024 • 8:43:08am

re: #230 lawhawk

Appeal to bulkshit:

Trump: New York will lose ‘trillions and trillions’ if you convict me

NY will not lose a single dollar from convicting Trump. NY will actually begin resolving a tax loss from Trump businesses, which have engaged in systemic malfeasance for decades.

Businesses will continue seeking out NY because it is the world’s financial capital, and it’s clear that Trump couldn’t make it in NY without criminal conduct. Other businesses have no such issues.

His instinct is to lie about everything. He even does it regarding things that don’t matter, maybe for practice, but probably because his brain is broken, and he can’t stop lying.

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(((Archangel1)))  May 30, 2024 • 8:43:37am

re: #222 sagehen

What did he win? An open Knesset seat, a mayoral race, party chair????

He’s the new head of the Labor party.

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 8:47:36am
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William Lewis  May 30, 2024 • 8:47:59am

re: #233 (((Archangel1)))

He’s the new head of the Labor party.

He’s the one who put on his old uniform and dove into the thick of the fighting, correct? And is now potentially the replacement for the Rat Bastard? That would be a good thing.

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 8:50:21am

re: #230 lawhawk

Appeal to bulkshit:

Trump: New York will lose ‘trillions and trillions’ if you convict me

NY will not lose a single dollar from convicting Trump. NY will actually begin resolving a tax loss from Trump businesses, which have engaged in systemic malfeasance for decades.

Businesses will continue seeking out NY because it is the world’s financial capital, and it’s clear that Trump couldn’t make it in NY without criminal conduct. Other businesses have no such issues.

[He] argued that businessmen would flee the city for fear of being prosecuted for similar payouts to mistresses.

“We were treated very, very badly!” Trump complained

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dat_said  May 30, 2024 • 8:51:01am

re: #236 Dangerman

[He] argued that businessmen would flee the city for fear of being prosecuted for similar payouts to mistresses.

“We were treated very, very badly!” Trump complained

Sounds like an admission of guilt.

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 30, 2024 • 8:52:18am

re: #133 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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MrBWS has this t-shirt:

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 30, 2024 • 8:55:08am

‘Rappers say it all the time’: Observers predict Fox spin if Trump ‘N-word’ tape leaks

An NBC executive on Thursday rekindled long-standing rumors about former President Donald Trump being caught on tape making explicitly racist statements during his tenure as host of “The Apprentice.”

In a column for Slate, producer Bill Pruitt alleged that there was a video of Trump calling an “Apprentice” contestant the N-word, which is also a claim that has been made by other sources in the past.

“I’ve seen this compilation tape,” comedian Tom Arnold said in 2018. “If you’re on one of these reality shows — there’s compilation tapes of me doing horrible, disgusting things. Of course, I do horrible, disgusting things, but I’m also not running for president. I remember this tape I saw, and I described it exactly. He says the N-word, he calls Eric the R-word. Now they call it the N-word tape. I have friends that worked on that show, and I explained it exactly.”

Reacting to Pruitt’s column, many Twitter users then predicted how Fox News would try to spin such an “N-word” video of Trump should it ever see the light of day.

“Trump on video, calling a black contestant on his game show the N word, is the least BREAKING NEWS of all time,” Michigan GOP watch said.

“I can hear them now …”N word!?!? Of course he can say it Black people say it! Freedom of speech! It’s his 1st amendment right to use it…” said the influencer account Old Man Ebro.

Another individual agreed with the sentiment, noting Fox News hosts “will just say rappers use the N-Word all the time. Lastly, unless the tape is released, why talk about it?”

Worse, there is a fear that MAGA fans will be emboldened by the news and will start using the word themselves in public.

Others remarked that Trump supporters are likely thinking that it makes him more relatable since they also like to spew racial slurs.

Trump brings out the Boys In The Hoods in his disciples.

rawstory.com

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 30, 2024 • 8:57:00am
The Donald Trump I Saw on The Apprentice

On Jan. 8, 2004, just more than 20 years ago, the first episode of The Apprentice aired. It was called “Meet the Billionaire,” and 18 million people watched. The episodes that followed climbed to roughly 20 million each week. A staggering 28 million viewers tuned in to watch the first season finale. The series won an Emmy nomination for Outstanding Reality-Competition Program, and the Television Critics Association called it one of the best TV shows of the year, alongside The Sopranos and Arrested Development. The series—alongside its bawdy sibling, The Celebrity Apprentice—appeared on NBC in coveted prime-time slots for more than a decade.

The Apprentice was an instant success in another way too. It elevated Donald J. Trump from sleazy New York tabloid hustler to respectable household name. In the show, he appeared to demonstrate impeccable business instincts and unparalleled wealth, even though his businesses had barely survived multiple bankruptcies and faced yet another when he was cast. By carefully misleading viewers about Trump—his wealth, his stature, his character, and his intent—the competition reality show set about an American fraud that would balloon beyond its creators’ wildest imaginations.

I should know. I was one of four producers involved in the first two seasons. During that time, I signed an expansive nondisclosure agreement that promised a fine of $5 million and even jail time if I were to ever divulge what actually happened. It expired this year.

No one involved in The Apprentice—from the production company or the network, to the cast and crew—was involved in a con with malicious intent. It was a TV show, and it was made for entertainment. I still believe that. But we played fast and loose with the facts, particularly regarding Trump, and if you were one of the 28 million who tuned in, chances are you were conned.

As Trump answers for another of his alleged deception schemes in New York and gears up to try to persuade Americans to elect him again, in part thanks to the myth we created, I can finally tell you what making Trump into what he is today looked like from my side. Most days were revealing. Some still haunt me, two decades later.

slate.com

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2024 • 9:00:55am

re: #238 Backwoods Sleuth

MrBWS has this t-shirt:

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Want.

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Jay C  May 30, 2024 • 9:01:33am

re: #230 lawhawk

Appeal to bulkshit:

Trump: New York will lose ‘trillions and trillions’ if you convict me

I’m guessing this particular mound of Trumpian fecal-speak is an attempt to conjure up - yet again - the specter of the dreaded Outraged American Boycott (tm): that All The Real Folks Out There In The Heartland (also tm) are going to be so existentially infuriated that the Rogue State of New York dared to accuse/indict/convict God’s Original Hero (Donald), that they are going to shun. boycott, embargo, and refuse to deal with anything and everything associated with said Pariah State, until those trillions in economic damages totally ruins it.
And it will serve them right….

Of course, these boycotts (remember the Great Truckers’ Embargo? - it’s alright if you don’t, I had to think hard to recall it myself) tend never to work out the way the sputtering Outragers imagine: and, as you point out, New York (State and City) is a pretty powerful and influential economic engine. SO nope (IMO): the main monetary damage to the State is likely to be limited to the costs of NYPD overtime policing Dolt 45’s various trials….

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Nojay UK  May 30, 2024 • 9:04:16am

re: #236 Dangerman

[He] argued that businessmen would flee the city for fear of being prosecuted for similar payouts to mistresses.

New York and especially Manhattan is built on a large pile of money. Moving money around is the local business. One thing that makes it a safe place to operate financial businesses is the courts and law officers who police that money as it flows in and out. Enron is just one example of the heavy hammers coming down on crooks who play fast and loose with money in Manhattan.

Real businessmen and businesswomen are looking at Trump getting prosecuted for fraud with some satisfaction, it shows that the guardians of their own wealth are on the ball and it’s being made clear that monkeying around with money isn’t going to get given a pass by the city of New York.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 30, 2024 • 9:05:02am

re: #240 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

I’ll go ahead and read the article, but I’m not painting Bill Pruitt as some kind of hero here. He’s talking now the damage is done and he has no legal repercussions.

Stephanie Clifford and Karen McDougall have been much more heroic, fighting off their NDAs, standing against wingnut death threats, Clifford being jailed by an Ohio sheriff in a clear politically-motivated stunt for speaking out against his orange fuhrer, &c.

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2024 • 9:05:49am

re: #243 Nojay UK

True, but it will be more obviously true when the DJT social media stock goes “poof”.

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Mattand  May 30, 2024 • 9:06:13am

Jesus Christ, Politico has been going hard after Biden lately.

The other day there was an article about Dems are panicking about the election. Now, today, it’s Biden is hemorrhaging Black voters.

I didn’t read the articles, so maybe I’m wandering into Hot Take territory. It’s possible that there’s some solid, hereto-for unknown facts in those articles that Politico’s diligent team of reporters have managed to dig up.

I’m sure in no way Politico would ever post a “Dems in disarray” article on the flimsiest of premises, in order to clickbait the hell out of a story.

No sir, they’d never, ever do that.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 30, 2024 • 9:08:10am

re: #236 Dangerman

[He] argued that businessmen would flee the city for fear of being prosecuted for similar payouts to mistresses.

“We were treated very, very badly!” Trump complained

And totally misrepresenting (again) what the case is actually about.

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 9:08:22am

re: #239 Joe Bacon ✅

‘Rappers say it all the time’: Observers predict Fox spin if Trump ‘N-word’ tape leaks….

1. Yes they do
2. Trump is/was not a rapper

There is no third thing

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 30, 2024 • 9:09:13am

re: #241 wrenchwench

Want.

amazon.com

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 9:09:40am

re: #243 Nojay UK

New York and especially Manhattan is built on a large pile of money. Moving money around is the local business. One thing that makes it a safe place to operate financial businesses is the courts and law officers who police that money as it flows in and out. Enron is just one example of the heavy hammers coming down on crooks who play fast and loose with money in Manhattan.

Real businessmen and businesswomen are looking at Trump getting prosecuted for fraud with some satisfaction, it shows that the guardians of their own wealth are on the ball and it’s being made clear that monkeying around with money isn’t going to get given a pass by the city of New York.

The rich get screwed by other rich not paying their taxes just like the rest of us

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(((Archangel1)))  May 30, 2024 • 9:14:38am

re: #235 William Lewis

He’s the one who put on his old uniform and dove into the thick of the fighting, correct? And is now potentially the replacement for the Rat Bastard? That would be a good thing.

Basically yes. On the morning of October 7, when people started to realize what was going on, Golan basically got in his old uniform, left his house, organized and joined an emergency team and risked his life to rescue as many civilians as he could. All while Netanyahu and his Coalition of Contemptible Cowards hid and did jack sh*t.

He’s one of a few potential replacements for the Purple-Haired Pestilence - the other prominent one being the centrist party leader Benny Gantz, a former general who entered his party into the “Emergency Unity” coalition to ensure someone sane would be calling the shots in the security cabinet (which also consisted of Smotrich and Ben Gvir on behalf of their parties - think of the former as Louie Gohmert without the competence and spine and the latter as Trump without the fortune, knowledge and sanity).

Golan is looking to fix the Labor and unify the long-broken Israeli left, which has been politically crippled for a long-ass time - basically since after the Second Intifada of the 2000s, in which thousands of Israelis, the overwhelming majority of them civilians, were killed by Palestinian terrorism (Hamas’s later coup in Gaza was another massive blow to the already weakened faction).
The Labor party itself was in dire straits and staring at political annihilation after the self-centered former head of the party, Meirav Michaeli, set in motion the events that inadvertently trashed 4% of total national votes on election day and gave Netanyahu a parliamentary win simply because the opposition lost too many votes due to regulations.

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DodgerFan1988  May 30, 2024 • 9:15:10am
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lawhawk  May 30, 2024 • 9:15:59am

Once again, Trump’s incompetence and delusions of grandeur come to the fore with revelations about how The Apprentice was made and scripted to work around Trump’s indifference and inability to pay attention to anything for more than a few seconds.

But where’s the tape of Trump saying these things (like the N word in response to the first season runner up)? Not that it matters, since no one seems to think anything Trump said or did actually matters, when he’s said so much racist and abhorrent stuff over the years.

Everyone working on the Apprentice knew Trump was this person, but they worked on the show anyways, and the NDA kept them quiet under penalty of major financial hardship that none of those involved could afford.

This is how Trump has always operated - skirting the law, preying on those without financial means, and projecting his misconduct on everyone else around him.

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2024 • 9:16:37am

re: #249 Backwoods Sleuth

amazon.com

OMG. Colors, sizes…

I can deal. Thanks!

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Nojay UK  May 30, 2024 • 9:17:25am

re: #250 Dangerman

The rich get screwed by other rich not paying their taxes just like the rest of us

The rich don’t invest their money in places like Nigeria or Cyprus, they look to keep it in places where the rule of law means their money is safe. One clear indicator of the rule of law is that fraudsters and con-men end up getting arrested and face trial regardless of how well-connected or how rich they claim to be.

Taxes on the other hand are negotiable and if you’re big enough you can buy the national legislature (see Apple and the Irish government for previous worked examples). Overt cheating on taxes is for low-end chisellers like Al Capone.

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danarchy  May 30, 2024 • 9:17:31am

re: #238 Backwoods Sleuth

MrBWS has this t-shirt:

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Heh, I got my brother a mug with that on it when he turned 50.

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jaunte  May 30, 2024 • 9:21:29am

re: #255 Nojay UK

“Alphonse Capone, has anyone ever heard of him?”

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 30, 2024 • 9:24:05am

re: #257 jaunte

Say who? Never heard of him. /

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 30, 2024 • 9:26:08am

Sure your fat gassy blimp. Tell us another whopper.

Steve Bannon: Alito’s wife now on ‘shortlist’ for Trump’s VP

rawstory.com

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Eventual Carrion  May 30, 2024 • 9:29:18am

re: #147 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Sigh.
Wordle 1,076 6/6

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Double sigh. X/6

Wordle 1,076 X/6

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 9:29:18am

re: #259 Joe Bacon ✅

Sure your fat gassy blimp. Tell us another whopper.

Steve Bannon: Alito’s wife now on ‘shortlist’ for Trump’s VP

rawstory.com

deep thinkers one and all

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 9:30:34am

how do you say spineless toady

DeSantis is trying to raise $10m as part of a multi-state fundraising swing for TFG

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 9:33:09am

re: #262 Dangerman

how do you say spineless toady

DeSantis is trying to raise $10m as part of a multi-state fundraising swing for TFG

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 30, 2024 • 9:34:53am

re: #263 Dangerman

Is Ron wearing white go-go boots?

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 9:37:42am

re: #264 PhillyPretzel ✅

Is Ron wearing white go-go boots?

indeed

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sagehen  May 30, 2024 • 9:37:45am

re: #244 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’ll go ahead and read the article, but I’m not painting Bill Pruitt as some kind of hero here. He’s talking now the damage is done and he has no legal repercussions.

Stephanie Clifford and Karen McDougall have been much more heroic, fighting off their NDAs, standing against wingnut death threats, Clifford being jailed by an Ohio sheriff in a clear politically-motivated stunt for speaking out against his orange fuhrer, &c.

Karen McDougall did no such thing.

Cassidy Hutchison and E Jean Carroll are heroes. I’ll even give it to Liz Cheney. But Karen McDougall has been conspicuously silent.

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jaunte  May 30, 2024 • 9:40:25am

Trump Raging At Fox News’s Shannon Bream For Making Alina Habba Look Like Idiot
wonkette.com

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Teukka  May 30, 2024 • 9:42:50am
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jaunte  May 30, 2024 • 9:42:52am

Alina Habba even mentions Robert De Niro. It seems that with everyone from Habba to Mika Brzezinski tut-tutting over his appearance, its effectiveness must have thrown a panic into the MAGA faithful.

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EstebanTornado1963  May 30, 2024 • 9:51:38am

re: #265 Dangerman

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 30, 2024 • 9:52:29am

re: #266 sagehen

Karen McDougall did no such thing.

Cassidy Hutchison and E Jean Carroll are heroes. I’ll even give it to Liz Cheney. But Karen McDougall has been conspicuously silent.

—-

en.wikipedia.org

In March 2018, McDougal filed a lawsuit against AMI in Los Angeles Superior Court, aiming to invalidate the non-disclosure agreement.[58][59] On April 19, 2018, AMI settled with McDougal, which allowed her to speak about the alleged affair.

Ex-Playboy Model, Freed From Contract, Can Discuss Alleged Trump Affair (New York Times, April 18, 2018)

Television media focuses on Stormy Daniels, largely ignoring Karen McDougal.

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 9:53:07am

re: #267 jaunte

Trump Raging At Fox News’s Shannon Bream For Making [allowing] Alina Habba [to make herself] Look Like [an] Idiot
wonkette.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 30, 2024 • 9:53:17am

re: #271 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Added sources to the post.

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 9:54:36am

re: #269 jaunte

Alina Habba even mentions Robert De Niro. It seems that with everyone from Habba to Mika Brzezinski tut-tutting over his appearance, its effectiveness must have thrown a panic into the MAGA faithful.

yesterday’s pitchbot:

Robert De Niro campaigning for Joe Biden is a desperate attempt to use a celebrity to sway an election.

by Chuck Norris, Randy Quaid, and Kid Rock

(Nugent couldn’t be reached for comment)

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Eventual Carrion  May 30, 2024 • 9:58:53am

re: #185 darthstar

He’s making his wife sound like a righteous asshole.

She could very well be

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gwangung  May 30, 2024 • 10:01:51am

re: #185 darthstar

He’s making his wife sound like a righteous asshole.

Like marries like.

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2024 • 10:01:56am

Rabbit. Wordle 1,076 5/6*

With a double whiff.

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 10:05:19am

here it starts, cause ‘false’ and ‘threats’ are all they got


False right-wing reports about Trump trial jury instructions fuel threats against judge

False reporting and social media commentary about the jury instructions in Trump’s hush money trial has spurred calls for the assassination of the judge overseeing the case.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 30, 2024 • 10:07:58am

Stormy Daniels is much more flamboyant than Karen McDougal. She takes no shyte from conservatives on her Twitter account, drags Republicans as cowards, &c. All those fireworks make for good television drama.

As far as I know, Ms. McDougal was never on Twitter. That said, six years ago she sat down for an hour-long interview with CNN.

Ex-Playboy model Karen McDougal tells her story about Donald Trump

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jaunte  May 30, 2024 • 10:12:00am

re: #279 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Based on her account, Karen McDougal’s judgement of character is 10 months worse than Stormy Daniels’.

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Mattand  May 30, 2024 • 10:14:50am

re: #266 sagehen

Karen McDougall did no such thing.

Cassidy Hutchison and E Jean Carroll are heroes. I’ll even give it to Liz Cheney. But Karen McDougall has been conspicuously silent.

Eh, I admire Hutchinson testifying and all, but she said she’s still going to vote Republican during her 15-minutes-in-the-spotlight tour. Literally had a front row seat for January 6 and she’s still like, “Nope, the GOP is just fine with me, boy howdy!”

I mean, for fuck’s sake, she willingly went to work for Trump, with everything that was known about him.

Cassidy Hutchinson is the broken clock that’s right at least once during the day.

Sorta feel the same about Cheney. That whole “enemy of my enemy” trope really breaks down once you honestly assess what your temporary ally is going to snap back to, once the common adversary is no more.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 30, 2024 • 10:15:04am

re: #280 jaunte

Based on her account, Karen McDougal’s judgement of character is 10 months worse than Stormy Daniels’.

But way ahead of Liz Cheney’s.

Plus she still faced the same consequences Stormy Daniels did if she lost her case against AMI: economic ruin.

Cheney was simply voted out of office, to retire to her pile of skulls.

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Nerdy Fish  May 30, 2024 • 10:18:57am

re: #281 Mattand

See also: Pence, Michael R.

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Nerdy Fish  May 30, 2024 • 10:19:46am

re: #281 Mattand

Sorta feel the same about Cheney. That whole “enemy of my enemy” trope really breaks down once you honestly assess what your temporary ally is going to snap back to, once the common adversary is no more.

Maxim 29: “The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. No more, no less.”

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 10:27:30am

re: #283 Nerdy Fish

See also: Pence, Michael R.

who? //

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Eventual Carrion  May 30, 2024 • 10:29:33am

Perfect! Connections

Connections
Puzzle #354
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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 10:31:24am

Americans Are Thinking About Immigration All Wrong

“This case is actually easy to make. Cheaper and more plentiful houses, higher average wages, more jobs, more innovation, more scientific breakthroughs in medicine, and more state government revenue without higher taxes—all while sticking it to our geopolitical adversary, China—require more immigration. Across economics, national security, fiscal sustainability, and geopolitical power, immigration is the opposite of America’s worst problem. It holds clear solutions to America’s most pressing issues.”

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BeenHereAwhile  May 30, 2024 • 10:34:00am

re: #185 darthstar

He’s making his wife sound like a righteous asshole.

Muskrat Love:

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2024 • 10:34:20am

this is jaw dropping. samantha power, author of a big book on genocide, is apparently firing people for preparing presentations about maternal and child mortality in gaza www.theguardian.com/us-news/arti...

Sean (@publichealth.bsky.social) 2024-05-30T13:35:22.231Z

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 30, 2024 • 10:34:52am

re: #281 Mattand

Eh, I admire Hutchinson testifying and all, but she said she’s still going to vote Republican during her 15-minutes-in-the-spotlight tour. Literally had a front row seat for January 6 and she’s still like, “Nope, the GOP is just fine with me, boy howdy!”

I mean, for fuck’s sake, she willingly went to work for Trump, with everything that was known about him.

Cassidy Hutchinson is the broken clock that’s right at least once during the day.

Sorta feel the same about Cheney. That whole “enemy of my enemy” trope really breaks down once you honestly assess what your temporary ally is going to snap back to, once the common adversary is no more.

💯

Absofuckinglutely 💯!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 30, 2024 • 10:35:40am

re: #283 Nerdy Fish

See also: Pence, Michael R.

Whom they wanted to kill. Coward isn’t a strong enough word for pence.

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KGxvi  May 30, 2024 • 10:37:05am

re: #287 Dangerman

the problem is that there really isn’t anyone in the political sphere willing to make the argument for more immigration. democrats have spent the last two decades or so simply buying into the republican framing of immigration and border security. nobody makes the argument that immigration is a good thing and that the system is outdated and utterly broken.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 30, 2024 • 10:37:25am

re: #282 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

But way ahead of Liz Cheney’s.

Plus she still faced the same consequences Stormy Daniels did if she lost her case against AMI: economic ruin.

Cheney was simply voted out of office, to retire to her pile of skulls.

Why don’t I have a pile of skulls? Life is so unfair!
/

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 30, 2024 • 10:38:11am

re: #234 Dangerman

Of course, but it’s making Israel look really bad right now when they say, out of 45-50 killed in an air strike by them, two of them were nameless “high ranking Hamas members”.

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BeenHereAwhile  May 30, 2024 • 10:46:59am

re: #282 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

*snip*

Cheney was simply voted out of office, to retire to her pile of skulls.

I will forever image Liz Cheney with a pile of skulls.

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darthstar  May 30, 2024 • 10:49:37am

So do we know what Trump is watching on TV? It’s NYC so it could be off track betting.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 30, 2024 • 10:50:41am

re: #296 darthstar

Or that animal network.

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lawhawk  May 30, 2024 • 10:51:12am

re: #296 darthstar

His fluffer is busy printing out shit for Trump to read and fulminate on.

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2024 • 10:51:18am

re: #296 darthstar

He’s in court, he needs to be present during jury deliberations.

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No Malarkey!  May 30, 2024 • 10:54:34am

re: #281 Mattand

Eh, I admire Hutchinson testifying and all, but she said she’s still going to vote Republican during her 15-minutes-in-the-spotlight tour. Literally had a front row seat for January 6 and she’s still like, “Nope, the GOP is just fine with me, boy howdy!”

I mean, for fuck’s sake, she willingly went to work for Trump, with everything that was known about him.

Cassidy Hutchinson is the broken clock that’s right at least once during the day.

Sorta feel the same about Cheney. That whole “enemy of my enemy” trope really breaks down once you honestly assess what your temporary ally is going to snap back to, once the common adversary is no more.

I can live with them having terrible policy positions though, as long as they are willing to face the voters on election day and leave office if they lose. That’s what democracy is all about. If people like Cheney can help us defeat the fascists, I welcome her help, then we can go back to fighting about issues when that’s done.

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Nerdy Fish  May 30, 2024 • 10:54:50am

I almost feel like the entire world is waiting for news from this New York jury. Even looking outside, everything is still and quiet, as if to say, “HURRY THE FUCK UP AND FIND THE FUCKER GUILTY ALREADY.”

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No Malarkey!  May 30, 2024 • 10:56:18am

re: #301 Nerdy Fish

I almost feel like the entire world is waiting for news from this New York jury. Even looking outside, everything is still and quiet, as if to say, “HURRY THE FUCK UP AND FIND THE FUCKER GUILTY ALREADY.”

Meanwhile, we are overlooking the fact that jury selection in the Biden* criminal trial begins Monday!

*Hunter Biden, that is.

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Dangerman  May 30, 2024 • 10:57:49am

re: #299 teleskiguy

He’s in court, he needs to be present during jury deliberations.

I love that he can’t leave.
Must be infuriating

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austin_blue  May 30, 2024 • 10:59:10am

re: #44 Joe Bacon ✅

What the hell is this now?????

Texas Professors Want to Punish Students Who Get Abortions

Some wild news out of Texas (I know, not surprising): The New Republic reports that professors at the University of Texas at Austin are suing for the ability to punish students who take time off for abortion. The complaint, brought by America First Legal, needs to be read to be believed. Philosophy professor Daniel Bonevac and business and finance professor John Hatfield sound downright petulant in their declarations, refusing to offer an “excused absence” for students who obtain abortions—whether they’re traveling out-of-state or taking medication there in Texas. But wait, there’s more:

“I will certainly accommodate students who are seeking medically necessary abortions in response to a pregnancy that threatens the student’s life or health. But I will not accommodate a purely elective abortion that serves only to kill an unborn child that was conceived through an act of voluntary and consensual sexual intercourse.”

I would absolutely love to know how these men expect students to ‘prove’ that their abortions were medically necessary or urgent. Will Bonevac and Hatfield pour over young women’s medical records to decide if they really needed that abortion?

Naturally, these men’s disdain doesn’t stop at women’s reproductive rights. They also say they won’t use students’ correct pronouns, writing, “I will not violate the rules of grammar or compromise my educational mission to accommodate a student’s delusional beliefs.” Assholes.

jessica.substack.com

Another reason why I won’t step foot in Texas.

There are 1,471 tenured profs at UT and only two are assholes?

Not bad, actually.

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No Malarkey!  May 30, 2024 • 10:59:14am

re: #292 KGxvi

the problem is that there really isn’t anyone in the political sphere willing to make the argument for more immigration. democrats have spent the last two decades or so simply buying into the republican framing of immigration and border security. nobody makes the argument that immigration is a good thing and that the system is outdated and utterly broken.

Matthew Yglesias did in his book One Billion Americans, which almost nobody bought.

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BeenHereAwhile  May 30, 2024 • 10:59:32am

re: #301 Nerdy Fish

I almost feel like the entire world is waiting for news from this New York jury. Even looking outside, everything is still and quiet, as if to say, “HURRY THE FUCK UP AND FIND THE FUCKER GUILTY ALREADY.”

A book or two will be published by a member of the jury.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 30, 2024 • 11:00:45am

re: #301 Nerdy Fish

I hope they take months and months to find him guilty. :)

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Captain Ron  May 30, 2024 • 11:01:31am
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Nerdy Fish  May 30, 2024 • 11:01:43am

I’ll be dead honest, the jury probably isn’t going to come back today. If they come back tomorrow with a verdict, it’s a fast verdict, even for a trial that doesn’t seem all that complicated on its face. But knowing that still doesn’t seem to stop me from hoping.

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2024 • 11:02:41am

re: #304 austin_blue

There are 1,471 tenured profs at UT and only two are assholes?

Not bad, actually.

Next, no excuses issued for menstrual cramps. They are punishment for fertility failure. Class attendance still required.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 30, 2024 • 11:03:33am

False right-wing reports about Trump trial jury instructions fuel threats against judge (NBC News, today)

TL;DR: Across conservative media they are spreading the lie that Judge Juan Merchan said the jury does not have to reach a unanimous conclusion to convict Mr. Trump.

That is false: In his instructions, the judge specifically stated the findings by the jury must be unanimous.

Several conservative news personalities, including some affiliated with Fox News, falsely claimed that Judge Juan Merchan, as one Fox News anchor put it in a viral post on X, “told the jury that they do not need unanimity to convict” Trump.

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2024 • 11:04:17am

Oh, he got himself a TV for court.

Two-tiered justice system.

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No Malarkey!  May 30, 2024 • 11:04:21am

re: #310 wrenchwench

Next, no excuses issued for menstrual cramps. They are punishment for fertility failure. Class attendance still required.

And genital checks. The professors have to know if you are “really” male or female so that they know what pronouns to use.

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2024 • 11:08:48am

re: #313 No Malarkey!

And genital checks. The professors have to know if you are “really” male or female so that they know what pronouns to use.

I want to start a rumor to drive some people crazy. Women can focus their thoughts to prevent an embryo from implanting, causing a period. This would only cause more surveillance and imprisonment for women, though. Leaving it in the (not quite) dead thread.


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